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james murez: Could you close the.

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This.

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james murez: Well i'm trying to promote people to panelists and it's not working, oh there goes one.

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james murez: Good evening.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Good evening James how are you.

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james murez: just fine just fine.

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james murez: i'm looking for is vicki on the committee excuse.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Everybody.

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james murez: it's a joint committee, so I guess I can promote her because she is on the board.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

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james murez: and

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james murez: let's see I told it to promote let's see diners on the board.

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james murez: promote.

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james murez: devil i'm gonna make you co host.

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james murez: Thank you have to accept.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I don't.

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Daffodil Tyminski: know that.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Jim, can I start out by asking Ivan a quick question.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Absolutely.

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james murez: Okay, I don't know if he can answer you but you're more than welcome to ask him.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay hey Ivan.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I was just able to generate the mers for November and December literally an hour ago, and so it's not it's not going to go to a budget and Finance Committee is it allowed to be heard by the board without.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Being resources.

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Ivan: Now kind of goes through budget for.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Oh boy alright, well, we.

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Ivan: Are we gonna be in trouble.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Well we're just I mean when is the the meetings Monday night or Tuesday.

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Ivan: Monday

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Ivan: So what you may want to do.

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Ivan: Thursday this perfect okay with Jim.

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Ivan: call the budget meeting.

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Ivan: For like a half hour before the regular more 45 minutes before the board meeting.

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Ivan: We kind of a quick board meeting with the budget meeting with just that one item on the agenda.

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Andrea Boccaletti: yeah really we don't just be the tumors November, December.

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Ivan: Right right The thing is, with transparency, the board never really looked through the line item, you know they trust the Budget Committee is going through.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Right okay so rather than just trusting me they need to trust the.

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Ivan: commit well it's not a thing with trusting one person that's that's our checks and balance right, you know I mean i've seen other neighborhood Councils spend an hour with the more every month.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Which is crazy man, if I call it Friday to.

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Andrea Boccaletti: To Monday to Tuesday our meetings Tuesday night.

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james murez: Yes.

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Andrea Boccaletti: It can happen i'll do it on Tuesday Okay, thank you.

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Ivan: yeah so you have to post by tomorrow.

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Ivan: yeah oh by Saturday.

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Andrea Boccaletti: By whatever time it is tomorrow yeah tomorrow.

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james murez: yeah yeah why don't why don't you call it for four 530 on Tuesday night and then that means you have to post it by 530 on Saturday night.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Or, I could call it, for it at 10 o'clock are able to join.

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james murez: You on when.

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Andrea Boccaletti: kind of clock let's say 10 o'clock Tuesday.

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james murez: yeah, but that means and everybody has to take time out of their day twice.

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Andrea Boccaletti: that's true okay so i'll just too late in the afternoon.

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james murez: Thank you make it at 530 and that'll be even bigger megan 545 even it's gonna be a 10 minute meeting.

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Andrea Boccaletti: yeah okay.

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Ivan: Make it.

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james murez: Make it i'll make.

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james murez: I will make you a zoom link for.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'd make it for 530.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: A little bit of time we might I mean.

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james murez: Okay 530 it is.

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james murez: i'm wondering why Jason did not get promoted to a panelist I tried and then it went away.

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james murez: i'm trying to me try.

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james murez: I just try it again, maybe he hung up and came back he might have had been having there he goes he might have been having connection.

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james murez: Okay um.

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james murez: Let me start by.

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james murez: Finding the right screen to share.

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james murez: I think this is the one let's see what happens, yes, this is the right one.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Happy New Year everybody.

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A better year.

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Jason Sugars: Happy New Year thanks.

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james murez: whoopee.

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james murez: Here we go okay.

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james murez: Let me open.

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james murez: The right file.

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james murez: Be.

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james murez: OK.

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james murez: So the time is 605.

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james murez: let's call this meeting to order.

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james murez: click on the clock give it a quick time marker Oh, he wants to save the file that's great.

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james murez: Okay, James ramirez i'm here.

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james murez: daffodil.

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james murez: Melissa.

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melissa diner: i'm here Jason.

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here.

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james murez: You go.

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Nico Ruderman: i'm here.

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james murez: Andre.

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james murez: holly.

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And Mike.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Mike is here i'm trying to promote him.

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james murez: Okay i'll count him as in I saw his hand went up.

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Daffodil Tyminski: here.

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james murez: he's here very good, thank you, thank you welcome.

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james murez: i'm.

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james murez: So we need.

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james murez: A motion from somebody to approve the December admin.

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james murez: Add calm minutes.

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Andrea Boccaletti: They will make the motion.

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james murez: Okay.

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james murez: And somebody to second.

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Mike Bravo: or second Mike.

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Mike yes, no.

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james murez: And do we have any discussion about it.

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james murez: Any pans in the public daffodil you're watching that.

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james murez: I can't hear you you're muted.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I know public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And we will close public comment.

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james murez: Okay, thank you um let's call for the vote.

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james murez: um I say yay.

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james murez: yeah let me use the tab key it's faster daffodil.

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abstain.

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james murez: Oh OK.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I just haven't reviewed them.

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melissa diner: Melissa yes.

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james murez: Andre.

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james murez: NICO.

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Nico Ruderman: Yes.

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james murez: Jason.

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james murez: And Mike.

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james murez: Okay, the motion carries 601.

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james murez: Moving right along public comment items, not on the agenda.

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james murez: Any hand stuff at all.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We do have one hand.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead and after Helen we're closing public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, and you should be good Helen.

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Helen Fallon: um yeah I wanted to, I presume this might be the place to bring it up is the calendar just doesn't seem to be staying up to date.

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Helen Fallon: sort of look at the beginning of the month, there is not everything that happens during the month and I don't know why regularly scheduled meetings like the board meeting aren't just on the calendar for the next.

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Helen Fallon: 18 months, it makes no sense to me we sort of got that fixed last year, and now it seems to have gone back to the chaos, it was before.

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Helen Fallon: And the other thing is the mers is just your bank statement everything on that Maria has already been approved by the board.

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Helen Fallon: So the only issue with emerge would be if you were charged for something that wasn't something that you ever approved which.

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Helen Fallon: Really won't happen because you have to have the receipts so and you have to have a BA sees with it, so I don't understand.

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Helen Fallon: Why, it requires an extra meeting and I think Ivan statements were erroneous, because it is not as if you're approving something that hasn't already been approved by the board that's it's just a bank statement that's all it is.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Helen.

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james murez: Okay, so we close public comment and move along.

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james murez: i'm.

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james murez: Under you have your hand up we're not responding to public comment but go ahead, if you have something you wanted to say i'm happy to let you talk.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And the other thing was just um.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I have another item to submit and it's just.

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james murez: So we will wait.

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james murez: Talking.

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Andrea Boccaletti: About a.

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james murez: timeout timeout timeout we're only talking about the Ad calm agenda.

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james murez: we're talking about the Boards agenda we haven't gotten there yet.

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james murez: So something you want to bring up to.

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james murez: The Board, we have to wait until we get to the board agenda.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you.

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james murez: Okay, I figure Thank you okay um new administrative committee business I don't believe we have any we didn't have any new submissions for the neighborhood Committee did we.

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Daffodil Tyminski: know we will this month we just had a lot of people away for the holidays understood yeah.

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james murez: Okay, so um let's go down here now and and we're down to Item number eight, we need a motion to open the discussion for this item.

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melissa diner: On that emotion.

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james murez: Who is that.

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melissa diner: That.

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Daffodil Tyminski: It was Melissa Jim and I will second it.

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james murez: Oh alright sorry.

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james murez: Melissa and daffodil.

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james murez: And now let's move to let me save this.

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james murez: I think if I click on it, one time it'll save it there, we go, we can come back to this one later.

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james murez: Hello i'm remember what this one's going to be called I will add in here.

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james murez: Come back later.

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james murez: Okay.

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james murez: Now let's move to.

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james murez: The second one.

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james murez: And Actually, this is a creative agenda.

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james murez: Because we are still working on this.

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james murez: And now we open it up, and this will be for the 18th.

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james murez: And what we first have to notice on here the board of directors is not showing this as the Ad calm, because this is a special agenda and I changed the caption because this is the Ad COM.

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james murez: board draft so when we take votes it will register the vote that these Members did and i'll just copy these over because we know who they were from the last one.

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james murez: These are the people who were present I assume ellie has not shown up.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh no.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I think she said this night this day was hard.

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james murez: For her.

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james murez: Wait I just pushed the wrong button, I have to reload that sorry.

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james murez: Come on, he refresh this.

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james murez: Now.

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james murez: Lives right notice something this month that was actually a bug in the program and we're going to try and fix that tonight and it's going to take you through a little bit of having to endure the new items on the agenda.

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james murez: didn't.

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james murez: suck in correctly from the agenda request system so we'll replace those in a few minutes and and i'll show you how that's done it doesn't take long and it'll make everything go quicker so in the meantime.

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james murez: let's start going through these items, I think, Melissa normally does this, so we have items 234 scheduled presentations.

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james murez: So that would be six seven.

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james murez: That he reports and I guess, we would stop at this point and take a vote on something along the way the mirror report, this information is probably wrong, so I think I want to delete this for now.

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melissa diner: Wait so we're making emotion for for one to eight then.

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james murez: And well why don't why don't we make the motion, all the way down to 10.

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melissa diner: Well, because the treasure.

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melissa diner: Report, we need to make sure we have both of Andrea says items noted and Jason you can submit the draft for us, then at least Jim can make a note for us to add it later, I think we just do one through a i'll make that motion, you know.

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james murez: Okay i'm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: going to Gemma staff.

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james murez: Okay, I just have to think about how do we vote on that i'd have to add an item to I guess 8.1 that some motion item.

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melissa diner: yeah and just put it as a placeholder what will the title that motion.

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james murez: b&o we're going to create it right now.

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james murez: How about placeholder.

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james murez: Is it the placeholder Is this the motion is this the motion, this is the motion.

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james murez: For.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Talking about the one that I need to.

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james murez: know why.

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james murez: Now this is this is right now, this is the motion of one through eight who made the motion to approve those.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Melissa made the motion I second at it.

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james murez: And daffodil.

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james murez: seconded it and we're going to call it 8.5 so it'll slide in after 8.1 and we'll take a vote on it, but let me just quickly whips me quickly here, this is covering that button.

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james murez: Let me restart those and.

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it'll be in the right view is.

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james murez: hold on hold on we're almost there okay here's our motion let's call for the vote.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I agree, Jim we have we please just give me one second.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, Jim we have one public comment and we have one panelist comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So let's talk a comment first.

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james murez: Okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And then we can open it up to discuss perfect public comment Helen that's you go ahead, please.

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Helen Fallon: Just a comment on i'm not sure how this is going to work when you transfer it into being a final agenda.

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Helen Fallon: Put the the Ad COM I don't know why you have the Ad con people are there, as the attendance on this draft.

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james murez: So I will respond to your comment it's a good comment, it was thought about ahead of time, the system actually does not bring in the vote when we're importing items because theoretically.

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james murez: Any committee could have submitted us one of their minutes and their minutes would show up with all of their voters and what we want is we want their motion, so we would import their motion, but not their committee members, when the agenda gets when.

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Helen Fallon: It gets.

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Helen Fallon: My comment wasn't clear i'm talking about and you took a roll call and you check it off as the attendance on this draft agenda, which is really for the board why.

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melissa diner: This is that this is done minutes.

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melissa diner: he's doing the Minutes it won't reflect when we do the board because he's already thought about.

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Helen Fallon: How it's gonna work.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay guys Thank you Helen for the comment let's not respond a level comment Helen if you have questions about how this works just.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Ping me on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And I.

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Helen Fallon: don't know if it works it works if it doesn't work I brought it up.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, I will figure it out as we go along.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, and so we were closing public comment vicki holiday go ahead yeah.

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vickihalliday: Just quickly, we need the as I emailed our gym and death, we need that 15 minutes, right after the lapd update for Shannon prior in the mayor's office to come and present.

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vickihalliday: Information about the circle project that started this past Monday.

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vickihalliday: So that needs to go in, and I would suspect that Captain amrit would like to either participate or stay around for it, so if it came right after lapd and La fb that would be great.

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james murez: OK, I will.

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james murez: be no that's that's.

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james murez: that's strictly a presentation right.

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vickihalliday: Yes, I mean, I think that by then people aren't going to have questions which i'm happy to get to her if people want to send me the questions, then i'll send them to Shannon you know Monday morning, or something.

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james murez: yeah I think we're also going to be introducing.

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james murez: A new email address daffodil and I were talking about it, whether or not it was gonna be 911 or 311 or something along those lines.

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james murez: Because we too can keep track of how their new solution is working, so I don't know if we want to do a motion to actually install the new email address or just make an announcement that it's going to be, I think we can just do with an announcement.

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vickihalliday: At the moment, but I mean.

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vickihalliday: Members may have questions.

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james murez: I just added the item down here at the bottom and what are we we're going to make this 6.1 excuse me 6.5 and what's the title of it going to be.

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vickihalliday: um circle project presentation.

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james murez: Oh it's not typing why isn't it.

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Mike Bravo: Is that the new city Program.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah maybe.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Maybe, let me just jump in for one second and because vicki I know we had originally earlier than we talked about putting it here but.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The neighborhood here is up in arms about this and I just wonder, is there a way to like have more of a dialogue with this person or have questions because my understanding is the plan now is to bring people that otherwise could have been.

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Daffodil Tyminski: For being mentally ill, bring them to Westminster senior Center and potentially even keep them there.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Which oddly is right across the street from elementary school.

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Daffodil Tyminski: which I mean the way had been proposed was kind of like a.

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Daffodil Tyminski: was a little bit different than the way it seems that the project rolling out, so I can tell you all the neighbors particularly all the ones that live in that neighborhood with kids in the school are absolutely freaking out about this.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And as far as I understand it from lapd lapd is going to be very hands off.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And they've contracted to an outside agency that's like a sort of Services Agency.

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Daffodil Tyminski: that are going to be the ones that we have to deal with which I know we know from Venice experience means like they do nothing for the neighborhood.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Right so i'm just concerned about putting them in the middle of government reports, I was actually gonna bring this up as a later item and give them their own.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Spot and say we need to have the ability for people to ask questions because i'm on now, you know multiple email threads of people upset about what they're being told by the city and by lapd and stuff like that.

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vickihalliday: yeah, so I would just suggest that it's close enough to the lapd presentation that they don't have to sit around for an hour.

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vickihalliday: To wait on that presentation, because I do think that they would like to hear her to.

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vickihalliday: Okay, that that's my only point and getting it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

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vickihalliday: And at the top.

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james murez: yeah maybe we make it 7.5 but I guess the question that I, I want to now ask, do we want to make this into an item that's not a presentation that rather it has a period of public comment normally on presentations we don't allow public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: that's why I thought of taking it out of this section and maybe what we do is we we I think we if we don't allow public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I will tell you already the anger of people that this has been sort of forced on them with no public input misleading public information and all of this, I mean the neighbors are literally up in arms over this.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Because again it's not so they're going to be bringing people from other parts of CD 11 and the West side to Venice to this location.

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james murez: So, so I guess the question is, are we making it a presentation, or are we making it an item which we attach emotion, to the emotion may be to do nothing, it may be just, but if we attach it to emotion item, then we can have public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Well, why don't we leave it the way it is because it's before government reports but make it into.

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Daffodil Tyminski: A.

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james murez: An act, well, we were.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We can't do anything about it.

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james murez: We would say it would be an item for discussion and possible action.

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james murez: And then we could open it up.

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james murez: But we.

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james murez: would wait right.

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melissa diner: later.

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melissa diner: Can I just be a Q amp a presentation.

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james murez: Okay, so we'll leave it will leave it as a circle project presentation public comment to follow.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I think we need to give people.

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Mike Bravo: A Q amp a or the public comment for Q amp a.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I think it's more comment because, to be perfectly honest Mike people have been trying to do Q amp a and they've gotten.

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Daffodil Tyminski: No information or kind of back of their hand, like the email threads going around I don't think we're actually going to get any useful answers, but I do think people are going to need to feel the need to express themselves and they're concerned about it.

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Mike Bravo: and real quick question who's done a presentation, is it the city or is it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Our cities and prior, who is the Deputy Mayor for homelessness I think.

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james murez: OK, we have some other hands up that was picky picky want to put your hand down for now definitely want to put your hand down for now NICO.

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Nico Ruderman: I mean, I have a suggestion I mean that the city is not listed in any public comments on that find my My suggestion would be to have them present before any other government officials, so that the government officials here public comment about it.

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Nico Ruderman: I don't know if that's possible it's move it that way, that that would that would force them to listen public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: that's how its structured NICO I think.

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Nico Ruderman: Okay, so that i'm sorry i'm driving so i'm not looking at it, but that's, so it is structured to go before like like before.

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Nico Ruderman: The rest of stuff.

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james murez: Well, we could do it.

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james murez: We could do it is.

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james murez: We could do it as the first item, or we could do it as the last item and then, rather than having.

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james murez: The treasurer's report, we could just open it up for public comment after they made their presentation and not make not make it so, but then it would be of items, not on the agenda, so no we can't do that.

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james murez: Okay it's.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Fine, as this gym it's fine as as an eco yes, that would.

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james murez: That would be crushed so we're Okay, with it, where it is between six and seven.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I agree it should be before the police report.

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james murez: vicki did that make it clear if they wanted it to be before or after the police did lapd say they wanted to be there.

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vickihalliday: They did not.

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vickihalliday: They did not.

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Nico Ruderman: They might might might be before box office before her studies office before the police, so that they speak first.

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james murez: Okay.

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james murez: Okay, I don't have any particular opinion about that Melissa you have your hand up did you.

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melissa diner: yeah I just think like let's let them talk let's promote everyone to submit questions so we keep the order that we always do, because I don't think.

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melissa diner: Even if everyone's up in arms, we gain everything from letting.

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melissa diner: Like the mayor representative, the one time we get them a year just get like annihilated and then I think we do put it on potentially.

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melissa diner: At the end of the agenda for a motion for possible discussion or action to support.

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melissa diner: This initiative in case we do want to talk about it or make a motion in favor or against it later, and then we can have more discussion about it, if the agenda permits like that's what I would say, because otherwise we're also just like.

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melissa diner: yelling about it venting about it, but like not coming to any conclusion that we can support her and send on you know.

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james murez: Okay, so let me come it to quickly two items which you just brought up.

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james murez: First of all, the city has made it clear that we cannot require people to submit motion or to submit public comment in advance.

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james murez: So if that's what you're thinking, they can submit it during the meeting or before the meeting as a as a you know, like an email or something, but they said that we can't require it on our agenda that they submit comments ahead of time, so we can ask for it but.

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james murez: We can't require it The other thing is.

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james murez: We would have to from what i've been just said what least what I just heard him say we would have to create a motion that we want to accept or deny the proposed.

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james murez: circle project presentation as a motion and publish that 72 hours in advance, now we can always modify the motion.

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james murez: and come up with an alternate motion we could make the motion to support the circle presentation project or to ask a circle present proud presentation.

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james murez: that the project be put on hold for 30 or 60 days, while the dnc evaluates the Community impact we could make any kind of emotion like that we want, but Ivan said, we have to have emotion, we can't just make it for discussion.

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melissa diner: that's fine at your discretion, but in favor deny and put it on.

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melissa diner: And then that's why i'm saying you don't have to like get all into it, while they're doing the presentation we still get our chance, but vicki can have people submit questions ahead of time, so.

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melissa diner: They can properly have a chance to respond to them and then we can make emotional that's my suggestion, otherwise we're just all venting with nowhere, for it to go even though even making emotion is very little that we can do at least something that's my.

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james murez: Am I understanding you correctly, that you would like to.

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james murez: Make the presentation as an early on thing on the agenda and then later in the agenda have a separate motion to accept or reject the classification.

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james murez: yep okay it's it's an interesting idea I actually had a unique idea i'm open to it, what how the rest of you feel def do you have your hand up.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I feel good about that oh sorry.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Well that's okay um I think it's a great idea, but I also had my hand up because we do have one public comment, and although we did close public comment this item was not on here when we closed it, so we should probably give the public a chance to comment on it.

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james murez: But okay yeah let's please do that I didn't realize I don't i'm not seeing that at all on my screen, because I have the agenda.

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Daffodil Tyminski: No i'm tracking it that's why I raised.

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Daffodil Tyminski: No, no, thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Helen Helen go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Helen.

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Helen Fallon: On yeah the statement circle project presentation, I have no idea what that means I thought it was about a traffic circle or.

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Ivan: Something.

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Helen Fallon: I think you need a little more detail in there, so the public understands what this is obviously a lot of you have information, the rest of us don't.

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Helen Fallon: So I think it needs to be a little more explained because that's required the public supposed to have enough information on the agenda item know what in the world, refers to it's just too big a State title.

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Helen Fallon: So I know first, what is the circle project put something in there, so people can know what it is.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks home.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And I wish we didn't know exactly what it was, but.

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james murez: Do we have anybody else needing to speak in public.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Public comment now we can close public comment go ahead, Ford, and do you want me to just calling people or.

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Ivan: Can I jump in from point here.

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james murez: Only if it has to do right now with with the procedure that we're currently entertaining of having the presentation at the beginning and emotion, at the end if it's about the motion itself let's wait.

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james murez: Thank you okay.

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james murez: What.

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Mike Bravo: Alright, a couple things.

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Mike Bravo: As far as the tunnel go circle project I believe that's.

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Mike Bravo: Another term for using on the Internet is 911 diversion program I think so maybe tell it, you know.

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Mike Bravo: My 11 fickle project nine 911 diversion program presentation, or something to that direction, as far as the name goes and and I wasn't too sure about Melissa earlier about the motion to approve or deny a presentation.

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Mike Bravo: It doesn't really make sense to me as far as you know, you'd like to presentation, or you don't know how we would reject or.

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Mike Bravo: accept a presentation I just it's a presentation so i'm a little clarification that's it.

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james murez: Okay, thank you Andre go ahead.

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Andrea Boccaletti: My question would just be about I love the for people to be able to write in quite their questions who's going to ask those questions or how those going to be presented to the presenters.

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james murez: Okay, thank you NICO go ahead.

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Nico Ruderman: Sorry, I don't mean to have a hand raised driving.

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james murez: Not a problem i'm Mike I think the intention is, is that we will create some kind of emotion and and.

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james murez: Then, when the time comes for the motion will decide on whether or not the motion needs to be modified.

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james murez: And it wouldn't necessarily I think you're right, it should not be about the presentation, it should be about the project.

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james murez: And I think that when we post this I will ask vicki.

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james murez: who's been tracking this to see if we can't dig up some kind of written overview that we could post as a supporting document we don't have it right now, but we can add it to the agenda before it gets posted to the board so everybody if they wanted to read up on it, they could.

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james murez: I think that's probably the best way to handle that and then the presentation itself would be made, we would have something that we could have looked at prior to you know, prior to the presentation read up about it.

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james murez: And then we can bend later on in the agenda would come under new business and and we do have some old business items that we're going to have to go through first and then, once we get to the new business, it could be then discussed about the project itself.

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james murez: With the information that we got from the presentation.

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james murez: So not not not judging the presentation, but.

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james murez: judging the project so there's two raised hands.

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james murez: Andre go ahead.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Which is what about the questions, because I do believe it is important for the other agencies as far as.

387
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Andrea Boccaletti: On.

388
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james murez: yeah.

389
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Andrea Boccaletti: They don't leave to hear the community's concerns.

390
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james murez: I don't know we can we can ask, we can ask the public, and we can continue to ask the public to please write in your questions, prior to the meeting.

391
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james murez: But, at the meeting where don't want to start opening up, I mean it's my feeling I don't know we you know you guys can can tell me i'm wrong about this.

392
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james murez: I think if we open up public comment for the lapd report and we allow the lapd to respond to the questions we're looking at two extra hours of meeting the.

393
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Daffodil Tyminski: Old board yes to try.

394
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:21.090
Daffodil Tyminski: Not work and.

395
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james murez: And it's it's just been a huge problem, because you give somebody the microphone for a minute and they're going to then turn around and ask lapd a question that's going to be a 15 minute answer.

396
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james murez: And if you get 15 speakers doing that even 10 speakers doing that you got 10 minutes of question asking but you've got several hours of responses.

397
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james murez: And, and I think it's just opening pandora's box and I don't think we want to go there, I think we will we want to do is, we want to get them back into committee, to be honest, but I know that that's not something that.

398
00:36:55.230 --> 00:36:56.640
james murez: we're doing at this point so.

399
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james murez: I don't know what to tell you Andre they'd say we can't force the general public to write in comments we can let them voluntarily do it, but we can't force them to.

400
00:37:09.030 --> 00:37:11.280
james murez: Definitely, you want to hold on a second mike's got his hand up.

401
00:37:12.180 --> 00:37:28.500
Mike Bravo: yeah they just want to jump in on that and then notice far as a as a question i'm thinking, maybe how about you know just we encourage a board members to encourage our constituents to you know email us, you know their most you know.

402
00:37:29.580 --> 00:37:31.620
Mike Bravo: part you know prioritize concerns regarding this.

403
00:37:31.620 --> 00:37:32.910
Mike Bravo: project and that way.

404
00:37:33.300 --> 00:37:39.360
Mike Bravo: When I do the presentation at least maybe some board members who have you know these questions that they've gathered from.

405
00:37:39.690 --> 00:37:48.720
Mike Bravo: The constituents via email or what have you then we can just keep it short and concise, with a few board members asking you know the most you know prioritize questions versus.

406
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Mike Bravo: Open up to the public and having a going, you know who knows where that's one idea, and also to look up on the Internet tune it's the title circle 911 diversion program presentation so.

407
00:38:03.390 --> 00:38:04.710
james murez: Okay we'll fix the title.

408
00:38:04.890 --> 00:38:05.190
Okay.

409
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Mike Bravo: that's it thanks.

410
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james murez: yeah I don't know how to spell diversion so we'll just leave it the way it is for now we'll fix it later sorry.

411
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james murez: um and and yeah I think what we want to do is, we want to make the announcement, they vicki's been kind enough to take on.

412
00:38:21.990 --> 00:38:35.700
james murez: Being the go between the dnc and lapd and LSD and and we could just all submit the questions to her, she could then forward them to lapd and LSD and they could then be prepared ahead of time.

413
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james murez: To respond to those questions I think that's, the best thing I don't think we have to to you know do any censoring or any kind of combining them or anything just turn them all over to them and let them figure out how they want to answer them.

414
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james murez: I think that's probably the best solution, you guys have your hands up, I assume that you had your chances to speak and are ready to pull them back down daffodil go ahead.

415
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Daffodil Tyminski: can't hear you gotta unmute now sorry.

416
00:39:01.170 --> 00:39:08.310
Daffodil Tyminski: um I was just gonna say i'm following up what Mike said it's the pilot program to divert non violent homeless.

417
00:39:09.210 --> 00:39:28.650
Daffodil Tyminski: Issues from 911 and I only say that because there is actually another 911 diversion program which is diverting suicidal people from 911 and if you were to like Google 911 diversion program you'd get the suicide one, so this is a pilot program to divert.

418
00:39:30.270 --> 00:39:33.600
Daffodil Tyminski: Nonviolent homeless issues from 911.

419
00:39:37.620 --> 00:39:38.070
james murez: Okay.

420
00:39:38.580 --> 00:39:45.210
james murez: let's do this let's let's lead 6.5 where it is right now it'll be above government reports and.

421
00:39:47.220 --> 00:40:00.510
james murez: And that way lapd will be able to hear what they're claiming and then, if they want to stick around for how we want to support it, or whatever that's going to come under new business much later on and we'll add one more item under new business is that agreeable to everybody.

422
00:40:02.490 --> 00:40:02.730
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

423
00:40:02.910 --> 00:40:04.350
Mike Bravo: Yes, sounds good okay.

424
00:40:05.010 --> 00:40:08.910
james murez: speak now or forever hold your peace alright so we'll leave that one there will fix the title later.

425
00:40:10.110 --> 00:40:12.000
james murez: We want to add emotion.

426
00:40:14.100 --> 00:40:15.870
james murez: And this is going to be.

427
00:40:18.210 --> 00:40:21.060
james murez: all the way down here at the bottom, and this is going to be.

428
00:40:23.190 --> 00:40:25.770
james murez: I don't know where it goes yet, but we'll figure that out in a minute.

429
00:40:27.870 --> 00:40:29.730
james murez: What do we, how do we want this motion to read.

430
00:40:36.450 --> 00:40:48.000
melissa diner: Oh, I would just leave it positive right now, until we know more, and then we can always change the word later so supports the program and leave it at that, and then we can change it later.

431
00:40:48.720 --> 00:40:50.130
Ivan: yeah no I wouldn't do that.

432
00:40:54.780 --> 00:40:57.390
Ivan: Support slash.

433
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:05.130
Ivan: doesn't support you know i'm saying put both choices in there and then you can decide which one you want at the meeting.

434
00:41:08.970 --> 00:41:12.780
james murez: Support slash deny how's that right or reject.

435
00:41:13.500 --> 00:41:16.710
Daffodil Tyminski: Right does not support ivan's right.

436
00:41:17.370 --> 00:41:21.750
Ivan: Right okay any anything along that line um.

437
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:28.170
Ivan: I remember it should say the project, not the presentation right.

438
00:41:28.890 --> 00:41:30.720
james murez: If you're looking at your screen that's what says.

439
00:41:31.110 --> 00:41:36.270
james murez: motion on pilot circle project support slash does not support.

440
00:41:36.930 --> 00:41:48.900
Daffodil Tyminski: And i'm going to say i've gotten so many increase about this, I don't think the issue is going to be whether people support this project, in theory, I think what the issue is going to be, and is is do they support.

441
00:41:49.410 --> 00:41:54.300
Daffodil Tyminski: It being housed right next to an elementary school where they're going to be bringing people from all over.

442
00:41:56.310 --> 00:42:04.680
Daffodil Tyminski: The need mental health they're like it's the location that's the problem, I think, not the spirit of every city, we want to help everybody that has these issues, but do you want to put them there.

443
00:42:05.550 --> 00:42:12.000
Daffodil Tyminski: Because it seems like they're ramping up the West, the Westminster Center with showers and rooms for people to stay in.

444
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:23.130
Daffodil Tyminski: And that couldn't wait to see the presentation, but that's the feedback that i've been getting.

445
00:42:25.860 --> 00:42:30.000
Ivan: yeah you don't want a big building the motion from the floor at the board meeting.

446
00:42:32.250 --> 00:42:35.100
james murez: Okay, so part of the discussion, though, will be the location.

447
00:42:36.150 --> 00:42:36.540
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

448
00:42:38.520 --> 00:42:42.360
Ivan: yeah and Jim you must get literature.

449
00:42:43.530 --> 00:42:47.010
Ivan: about what this project is and get the link into the agenda.

450
00:42:47.580 --> 00:42:51.510
james murez: understood all right, let me see if I can find new business, and I want to do.

451
00:42:51.510 --> 00:42:54.120
Ivan: Anything in advance, they don't know what you're talking about.

452
00:42:54.750 --> 00:42:57.210
james murez: So we have new business, we have.

453
00:42:58.650 --> 00:43:02.670
james murez: A few items well we'll have to so i'll make this 21.5.

454
00:43:03.930 --> 00:43:05.220
james murez: And then we'll move it later.

455
00:43:07.860 --> 00:43:10.830
james murez: I just don't want to forget it oh it didn't move.

456
00:43:13.050 --> 00:43:15.450
21.5.

457
00:43:17.220 --> 00:43:19.680
Andrea Boccaletti: And Jim diversion is easy it's just di.

458
00:43:19.830 --> 00:43:23.940
james murez: version yeah yeah we'll get back to it because I don't even think that's the correct one but.

459
00:43:24.330 --> 00:43:26.400
james murez: we'll get there okay so.

460
00:43:27.720 --> 00:43:37.650
james murez: At this point we have revised our motion are we we haven't voted on this yet items one through eight so we've got 6.5 was added.

461
00:43:38.040 --> 00:43:39.360
This is where we left off.

462
00:43:40.530 --> 00:43:41.370
james murez: Can we.

463
00:43:42.060 --> 00:43:44.190
james murez: Go back and and now.

464
00:43:45.930 --> 00:43:49.200
james murez: take a vote on these these first items.

465
00:43:51.150 --> 00:43:56.400
james murez: Everybody in agreement, I need somebody that we have emotion of second so I guess, we just need to call for the vote okay.

466
00:43:57.840 --> 00:43:58.380
james murez: um.

467
00:43:59.460 --> 00:44:01.380
james murez: Oh, what does that say.

468
00:44:01.530 --> 00:44:03.600
melissa diner: I think you're still just need to call for the vote.

469
00:44:03.600 --> 00:44:03.780
For.

470
00:44:04.860 --> 00:44:06.900
melissa diner: And OK, so now this we just did.

471
00:44:07.410 --> 00:44:08.370
james murez: i'm doing yay.

472
00:44:09.720 --> 00:44:10.410
james murez: daffodil.

473
00:44:10.620 --> 00:44:11.160
Yes.

474
00:44:12.390 --> 00:44:13.110
james murez: Melissa.

475
00:44:13.380 --> 00:44:15.450
melissa diner: Yes, Andre.

476
00:44:15.540 --> 00:44:16.020
Yes.

477
00:44:17.310 --> 00:44:17.820
Andrea Boccaletti: Eco.

478
00:44:19.200 --> 00:44:19.590
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

479
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:21.570
james murez: Jason.

480
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:22.410
yay.

481
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:24.540
james murez: And Mike.

482
00:44:25.080 --> 00:44:30.450
james murez: Yes, okay great making progress, let me just do one thing up here real.

483
00:44:30.450 --> 00:44:33.930
james murez: Quick i'll press a quick safe because we made a bunch of changes.

484
00:44:36.180 --> 00:44:36.900
james murez: There we go.

485
00:44:38.190 --> 00:44:47.640
james murez: Now let's go back down to Okay, the treasurer's report we don't have one yet you're going to provide that will leave it on the agenda for now.

486
00:44:49.680 --> 00:44:50.100
Ivan: Jim.

487
00:44:50.520 --> 00:45:00.570
Ivan: Yes, because there's nothing there, I would suggest that he did we were motion now, which is basically to approve the mirth.

488
00:45:01.290 --> 00:45:04.680
Andrea Boccaletti: I did send those in prior to the meeting yet to the approval of.

489
00:45:05.490 --> 00:45:07.560
Andrea Boccaletti: November and December.

490
00:45:08.010 --> 00:45:16.740
Ivan: Okay, get those into the agenda and then, if the meeting screws up that we can't do the Budget Committee meeting to know to pull it out at the board.

491
00:45:17.670 --> 00:45:29.190
james murez: So let me just let me, let me take one one minute here and and there was a bug in the program that like I say Liz noticed the new business items down here didn't.

492
00:45:31.170 --> 00:45:39.900
james murez: pull in the motions correctly like clark's it didn't pull in the attachment file, but it was only on the new items so where did the new item start, I think that was where they started.

493
00:45:40.410 --> 00:45:50.580
james murez: And we, I wanted to show you that that it's now working and it'll take an extra two seconds to do it will just bring them in now yeah so it's from 21.5 down.

494
00:45:52.170 --> 00:45:53.700
james murez: So to do this.

495
00:45:54.810 --> 00:46:00.780
james murez: The first thing I want to do is, I want to make sure i've saved everything that we have up to date that it just did.

496
00:46:02.130 --> 00:46:06.030
james murez: So we'll continue from here and i'll just re label this continue.

497
00:46:08.160 --> 00:46:09.540
james murez: And then, what we're going to do.

498
00:46:12.060 --> 00:46:21.390
james murez: we're going to God I can't quite see this we're going to go to web corner, and I think i'm still logged in here let's see agenda requests let's see if i'm still logged in I have to re login.

499
00:46:30.060 --> 00:46:36.300
james murez: OK, so now i'm logged back into web corner they've now published the new version of.

500
00:46:37.050 --> 00:46:52.110
james murez: The software for us on web corner, so now, what I do, and this is going to be a regular occurring thing prior to the meeting i'll check off all of the items now these I know we're testing items that I was just making sure it works correctly.

501
00:46:53.550 --> 00:47:00.540
james murez: And so, are these down here to the sample committee, but everything that's to the board or to the Ad COM committee.

502
00:47:01.020 --> 00:47:11.730
james murez: needs to get imported so to do that I check these off and then I click down here to export as Jason items, it does it and it now gives me a file.

503
00:47:12.240 --> 00:47:20.820
james murez: And it's actually the second time doing it today, but i'll put in here this one, so we know which one it was that's going to be the name of the file.

504
00:47:22.110 --> 00:47:33.960
james murez: So now it just wrote it out here to my local directory now I go back over here to our meeting manager program and I come over here to import agenda request I click import the file.

505
00:47:34.500 --> 00:47:41.550
james murez: It opens the system up and it's looking at the wrong place, because it should be looking at my downloads folder.

506
00:47:42.720 --> 00:47:45.390
james murez: And I think that's where it imported it to.

507
00:47:47.040 --> 00:47:48.390
james murez: Why do I not see it.

508
00:47:50.430 --> 00:47:54.090
james murez: Well that's not where it imported it to Maybe it was right before.

509
00:47:55.740 --> 00:47:59.460
james murez: COM Oh, I know why, because it was in revisions hold on.

510
00:48:00.870 --> 00:48:02.250
james murez: It was in here yeah here it is.

511
00:48:04.410 --> 00:48:05.610
james murez: i'm.

512
00:48:06.750 --> 00:48:07.830
james murez: Yours continue.

513
00:48:07.860 --> 00:48:08.880
james murez: Cut my hair.

514
00:48:09.810 --> 00:48:11.040
james murez: right here, this one.

515
00:48:12.240 --> 00:48:26.880
james murez: And I click on that, and these were all of the items that were checked off I then click save the requests it downloads them into a file and I will give this one, a name, so we can't forget it, this one.

516
00:48:27.900 --> 00:48:28.410
james murez: again.

517
00:48:30.300 --> 00:48:41.370
james murez: And now it again put it out into the revisions folder now I go back to the home and now if I go back to our previous agenda.

518
00:48:43.080 --> 00:48:46.710
james murez: And load this one up, and I think I called this one.

519
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:53.220
james murez: This one oh that was agenda request this one again no That was the downloaded once.

520
00:48:53.220 --> 00:48:53.790
Daffodil Tyminski: Here the.

521
00:48:53.910 --> 00:48:54.570
minutes.

522
00:48:55.830 --> 00:48:57.480
james murez: yeah I continue there it is Thank you.

523
00:48:58.980 --> 00:48:59.790
james murez: it's confusing.

524
00:49:01.050 --> 00:49:03.060
james murez: Okay, so this is the one we were just working on.

525
00:49:04.170 --> 00:49:11.790
james murez: And it has everything that we've done and now what i'm going to do i'm going to import the items from the new agenda.

526
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:14.400
james murez: which were.

527
00:49:15.330 --> 00:49:16.020
Daffodil Tyminski: This one again.

528
00:49:16.710 --> 00:49:17.580
james murez: This one again.

529
00:49:19.410 --> 00:49:28.680
james murez: God death until you're good at this and all of those items have now been brought in down here at the bottom of the agenda only now they actually have.

530
00:49:29.310 --> 00:49:34.620
james murez: The correct information, like this one now shows the motion there, and this was something that Elizabeth noted.

531
00:49:35.040 --> 00:49:39.900
james murez: That the motions weren't actually showing that several people didn't actually input, the the motions.

532
00:49:40.230 --> 00:49:51.060
james murez: But the other thing is, is that andres when it came in, he actually did have a linked file and I just wanted to show you that this is the the description that he put in, oh no that's Clark, excuse me.

533
00:49:52.590 --> 00:50:07.980
james murez: This was the one that andres put it Okay, and it had information in there uh but that he did describe and and so now what I have to do is have to change the numbers on these items and pull out the ones that were here originally So if I go back up here to the top.

534
00:50:09.300 --> 00:50:11.100
james murez: and his original.

535
00:50:12.270 --> 00:50:16.170
james murez: Item was 10 so i'll make the new 110 point one.

536
00:50:19.200 --> 00:50:25.440
james murez: Sorry, to make this take so much time, but I think it's good that you learn how to do it, just in case it ever comes up that you wanted to do it.

537
00:50:26.970 --> 00:50:32.640
james murez: 10.1 and that will now go when I go up here and I resort.

538
00:50:34.290 --> 00:50:36.030
james murez: It will go into 10.1.

539
00:50:38.310 --> 00:50:40.170
james murez: Wherever 10.1 is.

540
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:42.360
Andrea Boccaletti: Your mouse.

541
00:50:43.470 --> 00:50:43.950
Andrea Boccaletti: They there.

542
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:54.000
james murez: yeah and this one i'm now going to take away by deleting it, so I just click this button and it deletes, and this is the what you submitted into the system okay.

543
00:50:54.420 --> 00:50:55.830
Andrea Boccaletti: And where are the mers.

544
00:50:57.210 --> 00:51:00.180
james murez: You didn't didn't you didn't upload it I did.

545
00:51:01.230 --> 00:51:11.010
james murez: Well, you didn't you probably think he did, but you didn't the system didn't make that mistake i'm positive of that because I double check that there was no file attached.

546
00:51:11.160 --> 00:51:13.170
Andrea Boccaletti: I remember attaching them both and hitting.

547
00:51:15.990 --> 00:51:16.350
james murez: well.

548
00:51:17.160 --> 00:51:30.000
james murez: Okay, we can talk about it more but, but the the one person that did upload something I believe was Clark, and that did go into the system so we'll get to the other new items when we get down there i'm.

549
00:51:31.680 --> 00:51:35.010
Daffodil Tyminski: Giving this call, but I think we should probably just move on and go through the agenda.

550
00:51:35.040 --> 00:51:36.570
james murez: yeah we are so.

551
00:51:36.630 --> 00:51:44.100
james murez: we're, what are we doing with them or report we're just leaving it here, for now, just as it is and accepting that it's going to be added later, you.

552
00:51:44.520 --> 00:51:46.140
Ivan: Go to number 10.

553
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:48.060
james murez: we're on 10.

554
00:51:49.050 --> 00:51:49.530
Okay.

555
00:51:51.270 --> 00:51:53.100
Ivan: The news to be emotion there.

556
00:51:54.390 --> 00:51:55.470
james murez: There is a motion there.

557
00:51:57.150 --> 00:51:57.480
Ivan: alright.

558
00:51:57.930 --> 00:52:01.590
james murez: Maybe i'm testing approval by the board.

559
00:52:02.220 --> 00:52:06.660
james murez: Of the November and December monthly expenditure reports.

560
00:52:07.410 --> 00:52:08.490
Ivan: Okay that's good.

561
00:52:10.590 --> 00:52:13.320
Ivan: And now you're going to have to go back.

562
00:52:14.340 --> 00:52:17.520
Ivan: and get the links to those two those two documents.

563
00:52:18.660 --> 00:52:19.110
james murez: yeah.

564
00:52:19.500 --> 00:52:23.940
Ivan: we'll have to get here was only for the program one.

565
00:52:24.450 --> 00:52:28.140
james murez: yeah I don't have those links, did you put those on on.

566
00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:35.550
james murez: On the Committee web page or or or do you think you submitted them to the board's webpage to the agenda request system.

567
00:52:38.010 --> 00:52:38.460
james murez: Andre.

568
00:52:41.040 --> 00:52:41.640
Andrea Boccaletti: Sorry, yes.

569
00:52:42.390 --> 00:52:46.980
james murez: yeah when you uploaded the documents, did you upload the documents to your committee page.

570
00:52:48.450 --> 00:52:54.180
Andrea Boccaletti: to embed not on my committee page, yet no because I don't have no I don't have a don't have a meeting set.

571
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:58.950
james murez: So I could yeah so as soon as they're as soon as they're on the committee page, we can add them to hear.

572
00:52:59.310 --> 00:52:59.550
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay.

573
00:52:59.580 --> 00:53:02.070
james murez: We just we click on this little add button over here.

574
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:05.730
james murez: i'll do that will bring up a little dialogue and it lets us add files.

575
00:53:06.240 --> 00:53:08.460
james murez: Okay okay we're not there yet, so we do that.

576
00:53:08.490 --> 00:53:08.880
Ivan: We will.

577
00:53:09.180 --> 00:53:12.420
Ivan: Get in in November and December.

578
00:53:13.110 --> 00:53:15.060
Andrea Boccaletti: understood okay.

579
00:53:15.630 --> 00:53:16.230
Ivan: I understand.

580
00:53:16.560 --> 00:53:21.570
Andrea Boccaletti: And i'm sorry I probably should have written motion to approve not approval, but.

581
00:53:21.630 --> 00:53:22.680
Ivan: Right thank.

582
00:53:26.940 --> 00:53:35.580
Ivan: After the board meeting and drown why don't we get together and i'll go through this whole thing of making motions proper way to writing computer.

583
00:53:35.730 --> 00:53:36.540
james murez: That would be great.

584
00:53:37.140 --> 00:53:50.670
james murez: Okay, that would be great we have other people that need that expertise as well okay so let's keep working on, are we okay with adding this to the agenda, I mean, are we going to just add the next couple of things it's public comment, and then a letter to bonnen.

585
00:53:54.870 --> 00:53:55.500
Daffodil Tyminski: Now.

586
00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:00.360
james murez: This one, this one is in the wrong place, this must have happened when I just imported.

587
00:54:02.670 --> 00:54:03.810
james murez: Let me move this.

588
00:54:07.770 --> 00:54:08.340
james murez: Sorry.

589
00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:13.620
Ivan: That was under new business.

590
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:15.690
james murez: yeah okay.

591
00:54:19.170 --> 00:54:19.710
james murez: There we go.

592
00:54:22.470 --> 00:54:28.140
james murez: So how how many of these items are we going to approve at this point we go down to old business to number 12.

593
00:54:31.350 --> 00:54:35.160
Ivan: yeah that's the title, you can do through 12 now.

594
00:54:39.090 --> 00:54:41.760
Ivan: Let me tell you something here would make it easier for you.

595
00:54:42.270 --> 00:54:42.600
james murez: yep.

596
00:54:42.660 --> 00:54:44.550
Ivan: This is a working document.

597
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:46.350
james murez: I understand that.

598
00:54:47.220 --> 00:55:01.050
Ivan: You know you don't know need to record the vote every time we take two or three items and edited and Edit and Edit and you'll catch all that, at the very end, when we approve all of the work product.

599
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:07.800
Ivan: Okay, good so i'm saying we go back to the outcome agenda and palette for that item.

600
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:10.140
Ivan: Eight or whatever it was.

601
00:55:10.710 --> 00:55:11.190
james murez: Yes.

602
00:55:11.310 --> 00:55:17.520
Ivan: Okay, great the whole thing becomes the truth, you don't worry about filling out a separate thing for each and well.

603
00:55:18.600 --> 00:55:21.510
james murez: Okay well that's how you used to do it, you used to say these items.

604
00:55:21.510 --> 00:55:21.930
Ivan: yeah but.

605
00:55:23.010 --> 00:55:26.220
Ivan: We weren't having to create new items to.

606
00:55:26.430 --> 00:55:29.760
james murez: It wasn't OK so it's not very long continue design.

607
00:55:30.630 --> 00:55:37.170
james murez: We have two hands up at least that's what it shows, and I don't I can't see them I don't know if this is.

608
00:55:37.230 --> 00:55:40.110
Daffodil Tyminski: Public I can see them, we have two hands up for public.

609
00:55:40.110 --> 00:55:41.490
james murez: comment okay.

610
00:55:42.120 --> 00:55:42.870
Ivan: On one item.

611
00:55:44.580 --> 00:55:50.730
Daffodil Tyminski: um it's good because I myself have lost track of exactly what we're doing at this point, but why don't we take the public comment and.

612
00:55:51.540 --> 00:55:53.190
Ivan: want to know what item we're on.

613
00:55:53.940 --> 00:55:56.910
james murez: What we just said, we were okay up to 12.

614
00:55:57.990 --> 00:55:58.860
james murez: So they must want to.

615
00:55:59.190 --> 00:55:59.790
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

616
00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:01.020
Daffodil Tyminski: let's talk guys.

617
00:56:03.420 --> 00:56:15.030
Elizabeth Wright: As your listener to this meeting, I would really appreciate it if you would hold off on the debugging of the program and the rewriting of things and stick to.

618
00:56:16.050 --> 00:56:20.880
Elizabeth Wright: The the real intent of the meeting, thank you.

619
00:56:23.100 --> 00:56:23.400
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank.

620
00:56:26.580 --> 00:56:28.710
Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa redman go ahead.

621
00:56:30.030 --> 00:56:40.980
Lisa Redmond: yeah i'm gonna agree with Elizabeth but i'm a little confused by saying now that you can put together your whole working document and then have one motion to approve the agenda.

622
00:56:41.310 --> 00:56:57.060
Lisa Redmond: Instead of just going a few agendas, at a time, then, how does public comment come in to say well here's why I feel it should be on the agenda or not, we only get one chance to do that at the very end when something it's been tough chit chatted about a half an hour ago.

623
00:56:58.170 --> 00:57:01.770
james murez: Now I will continue to give you the opportunity to speak don't worry.

624
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:02.760
Lisa Redmond: Thank you.

625
00:57:04.050 --> 00:57:09.840
james murez: Okay well okay let's keep moving so we're down to 12 is everybody in agreement that we can move.

626
00:57:12.030 --> 00:57:13.350
james murez: What were the three items.

627
00:57:14.550 --> 00:57:29.940
james murez: The treasurer's report, the budget, the mirror report and the public announcements and old business we're we're stopping on 12 can we continue at this point, without any additional public comment Helen has her right hand raise it's obviously about one of those four items go ahead Helen.

628
00:57:32.790 --> 00:57:39.270
Helen Fallon: um yeah it was this a creation of the activity is that isn't that new business, not on the prior agenda.

629
00:57:40.260 --> 00:57:41.880
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah Helen we haven't gotten there yet, but.

630
00:57:42.090 --> 00:57:44.730
Helen Fallon: Oh, because he's talking about 12 so you know.

631
00:57:48.450 --> 00:57:51.810
james murez: I think these were items that were all business.

632
00:57:53.160 --> 00:58:00.030
james murez: And these were carried over as I recall from the previous board agenda.

633
00:58:02.370 --> 00:58:12.930
james murez: So we could go back and look, but I believe these items were things that were not heard last month and maybe i'm wrong, maybe I got it wrong it's possible that.

634
00:58:13.410 --> 00:58:17.520
Daffodil Tyminski: It is we can move it I let's let's not engaged in the weeds at this point um.

635
00:58:17.550 --> 00:58:21.600
james murez: Well, no, but I think it's an it's an important question so let's just see if.

636
00:58:22.830 --> 00:58:25.320
james murez: Because the old business, I know how far we got.

637
00:58:27.390 --> 00:58:28.860
tick tock tick tock.

638
00:58:31.380 --> 00:58:31.980
2020.

639
00:58:38.070 --> 00:58:39.540
And it would have been.

640
00:58:40.980 --> 00:58:41.940
james murez: This meeting.

641
00:58:43.950 --> 00:58:45.420
james murez: We got down to.

642
00:58:48.030 --> 00:59:01.890
james murez: 2320 420-627-2829 and 30 we took a vote on 30 so these were the rest of the items.

643
00:59:03.600 --> 00:59:09.330
james murez: This is where we ended, we had this Community impact report, we had the.

644
00:59:10.470 --> 00:59:11.910
james murez: file relations.

645
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:15.030
james murez: We had food and drink.

646
00:59:16.050 --> 00:59:19.230
james murez: We had combining that I was square clark's items and then.

647
00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:22.110
james murez: she's right.

648
00:59:23.820 --> 00:59:26.790
james murez: So that doesn't belong there that probably belongs lower down.

649
00:59:27.690 --> 00:59:38.550
james murez: There may have been a bug their lives may be right there may be something here that when I just re import it because I don't think it was this way, the last time okay so here's where little business started, let me just move that down.

650
00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:41.520
james murez: get it out of our way gone.

651
00:59:43.770 --> 00:59:48.090
james murez: There may be a bug it seems like it okay so here's old business.

652
00:59:49.680 --> 00:59:52.650
james murez: So, are we going to take this on as old business.

653
00:59:53.700 --> 00:59:57.030
james murez: seems to have everything it needs to have except the emotion.

654
01:00:00.420 --> 01:00:03.030
james murez: And the motion would be to submit a Community impact statement.

655
01:00:05.340 --> 01:00:05.790
Ivan: um.

656
01:00:07.710 --> 01:00:08.760
james murez: Somebody has her hand up.

657
01:00:09.750 --> 01:00:11.460
melissa diner: i'll make a motion for that.

658
01:00:12.810 --> 01:00:13.560
melissa diner: To put it on.

659
01:00:14.100 --> 01:00:14.370
and

660
01:00:15.690 --> 01:00:17.850
Daffodil Tyminski: Helen are you do you want to speak on this one too.

661
01:00:20.310 --> 01:00:20.640
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

662
01:00:21.180 --> 01:00:22.050
Andrea Boccaletti: Today I was talking to.

663
01:00:30.870 --> 01:00:33.570
james murez: mute it's I assume that the the.

664
01:00:34.350 --> 01:00:35.280
Ivan: Wait wait a minute.

665
01:00:36.090 --> 01:00:40.200
Ivan: yeah right Jim there's no motion here.

666
01:00:41.130 --> 01:00:42.780
james murez: Well, I just wrote one submit.

667
01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:44.220
Ivan: Community investment in.

668
01:00:44.220 --> 01:00:46.530
Ivan: Support we just came from a committee.

669
01:00:49.050 --> 01:00:59.160
james murez: parking interest well they they they asked us to submit a Community impact statement on this thing they didn't ask us to deny it.

670
01:00:59.610 --> 01:01:01.260
james murez: And so, their motion well and.

671
01:01:01.260 --> 01:01:04.800
Ivan: Support I know that that's not correct.

672
01:01:05.550 --> 01:01:08.640
james murez: Well okay let's go look it up, because I think it is correct.

673
01:01:08.640 --> 01:01:09.060
james murez: I just.

674
01:01:09.090 --> 01:01:11.520
Ivan: don't support or again.

675
01:01:13.110 --> 01:01:15.570
Ivan: They didn't tell us which way they wanted us to go.

676
01:01:15.900 --> 01:01:17.460
james murez: yeah I think they did actually.

677
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:18.540
Ivan: Where is it.

678
01:01:19.530 --> 01:01:20.610
james murez: I gotta look it up.

679
01:01:27.780 --> 01:01:32.250
james murez: Where committees, this is covering it up hold on a second oops wrong button.

680
01:01:33.570 --> 01:01:34.830
james murez: not what I wanted to do.

681
01:01:36.810 --> 01:01:45.570
james murez: sorry about that can't see it i've got this stupid zoom screen hovering all the buttons that's the one I want.

682
01:01:46.980 --> 01:01:50.490
james murez: From there, I want to go down to parking and transportation.

683
01:01:52.290 --> 01:01:56.040
james murez: And scroll down, and this would have been.

684
01:01:57.300 --> 01:02:02.100
james murez: I believe it would have been their December meeting.

685
01:02:09.570 --> 01:02:11.580
james murez: whoops let's see if I can find something.

686
01:02:14.190 --> 01:02:17.460
james murez: Is there a community that was the Community plan.

687
01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:25.560
james murez: New business site and purposeful discussion at five to Moshe and.

688
01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:27.540
james murez: The.

689
01:02:28.590 --> 01:02:32.370
james murez: Motion wasn't filled that oh passes here, so what does this say.

690
01:02:33.570 --> 01:02:38.520
james murez: Address vehicle premium global Bob submit Community impact statement is city.

691
01:02:41.040 --> 01:02:44.850
james murez: Consider submitting a Community impact statement in the past 400.

692
01:02:46.110 --> 01:02:48.840
james murez: So they said they want to support the.

693
01:02:51.390 --> 01:02:51.900
james murez: The item.

694
01:02:52.050 --> 01:02:55.380
Ivan: Okay right there, so this is from the minute to who is reading.

695
01:02:55.770 --> 01:02:58.410
james murez: This is the Minutes from their last meeting yeah, why do you say it's.

696
01:02:58.440 --> 01:02:58.860
james murez: Out there.

697
01:02:58.980 --> 01:02:59.700
Ivan: right there trying.

698
01:03:00.450 --> 01:03:07.170
james murez: Okay okay so so their vote was 400 they want to support it, I wrote down here submit Community impact statement and support.

699
01:03:07.410 --> 01:03:15.720
james murez: Which is the same as Community impact statement for the Council file because it's in support of the Council for the word is.

700
01:03:16.530 --> 01:03:16.710
That.

701
01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:19.800
james murez: Okay, do we have any other public comment.

702
01:03:21.780 --> 01:03:25.500
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, we do i'm Helen fallon go ahead.

703
01:03:27.540 --> 01:03:38.220
Helen Fallon: Just a reminder you voted on this last month, it was this is the file you just file Jim one where your condition or something the affordable housing Commission and.

704
01:03:39.990 --> 01:03:43.380
Helen Fallon: This doesn't even need to be on the agenda you had two motions on.

705
01:03:43.500 --> 01:03:46.200
Helen Fallon: Our last meeting and one carried over.

706
01:03:46.350 --> 01:03:48.930
james murez: There was a duplicate I think.

707
01:03:49.410 --> 01:03:49.800
Helen Fallon: I think.

708
01:03:50.130 --> 01:03:54.000
james murez: I think they were slightly different you may be right, let me, let me see if I can bring it.

709
01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:59.700
Helen Fallon: Back it's still in the same Councils, while supporting it, why would you go over it again well.

710
01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:05.370
james murez: Because I think that there were two separate items as I recall, and they were.

711
01:04:05.580 --> 01:04:15.150
Helen Fallon: Talking and transportation submitted emotion and support and then the other emotion I don't know where it came from with something to say they've been referred to homeless, but there was no vote or anything, it was just.

712
01:04:17.130 --> 01:04:19.740
Helen Fallon: Strangely, submitted motion.

713
01:04:22.500 --> 01:04:26.040
Helen Fallon: That was the 131 that one didn't get voted on.

714
01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:27.930
james murez: This one never got voted on.

715
01:04:28.230 --> 01:04:30.030
Helen Fallon: And why would you vote on and again you already.

716
01:04:30.030 --> 01:04:31.530
Helen Fallon: hung on the other one is the same.

717
01:04:31.740 --> 01:04:32.430
james murez: This one.

718
01:04:32.520 --> 01:04:33.840
james murez: This one did.

719
01:04:36.510 --> 01:04:41.340
james murez: And this was Council file 1057 s nine I guess you're right.

720
01:04:46.830 --> 01:04:49.260
james murez: No wait 1507.

721
01:04:50.580 --> 01:04:51.780
james murez: And what was this one.

722
01:04:53.370 --> 01:04:57.390
Helen Fallon: The second motion has the wrong Council file for the same item.

723
01:04:58.950 --> 01:04:59.760
james murez: yeah hang on.

724
01:05:01.500 --> 01:05:03.960
james murez: So this one it's a different Item number, though.

725
01:05:04.980 --> 01:05:07.980
james murez: This one was 14 1057.

726
01:05:11.310 --> 01:05:14.460
james murez: Was the Council file, this was from parking and transportation.

727
01:05:15.030 --> 01:05:15.960
Helen Fallon: That one's correct.

728
01:05:16.230 --> 01:05:28.260
james murez: And that one was submitted and 19 okay you're right so that that's an extra right and we don't need it on a great so everybody agreement we just delete it we've already done it yes.

729
01:05:29.460 --> 01:05:29.850
james murez: Okay.

730
01:05:30.120 --> 01:05:41.310
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, thanks home will close public comment yeah I was i'm wondering why did I me guess, this is not the forum for it but i'm wondering why they took it up in late December I was a little confused by that too.

731
01:05:41.670 --> 01:05:42.390
james murez: yeah I don't know.

732
01:05:42.990 --> 01:05:45.720
james murez: Okay, I just wanted to make sure we got it on the.

733
01:05:45.720 --> 01:05:46.470
james murez: Agenda okay.

734
01:05:47.100 --> 01:05:53.160
james murez: So this one here, it seemed to me when I read it, and you guys can decide for yourselves.

735
01:05:54.660 --> 01:05:58.530
james murez: It was submitted by Nick and we.

736
01:05:59.550 --> 01:06:03.120
james murez: We can certainly copy part of it, I think so, first of all understand that.

737
01:06:03.720 --> 01:06:12.420
james murez: At the point in time, that he submitted this the the agenda request system didn't have a separate box for motion, so I think everything just went into the description.

738
01:06:12.780 --> 01:06:19.680
james murez: So we can move that but I think it actually is something that probably needs to go to rules and selections unless somebody disagrees with me.

739
01:06:21.540 --> 01:06:24.480
Daffodil Tyminski: i'll make a motion to send it, this is daffodil two rules and selections.

740
01:06:25.410 --> 01:06:26.130
james murez: OK and.

741
01:06:29.010 --> 01:06:29.340
Ivan: Now.

742
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:30.660
melissa diner: i'll second.

743
01:06:31.470 --> 01:06:33.210
Daffodil Tyminski: This is item 13 on the agenda.

744
01:06:35.700 --> 01:06:36.180
Ivan: Of.

745
01:06:36.330 --> 01:06:39.390
james murez: preventing conflicts of interest by the parliamentarian.

746
01:06:39.630 --> 01:06:40.710
Ivan: Okay, all right.

747
01:06:41.190 --> 01:06:48.540
james murez: And so we want to move it to rules and selections because it's a it's an item that you brought up in rules and selections not at the board.

748
01:06:50.250 --> 01:06:55.710
james murez: And, and we have a first and a second, and we have public comment.

749
01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:01.230
james murez: I saw Helens hand went up, and now it looks like it went away I don't know if it's still there, or not I can't tell.

750
01:07:01.530 --> 01:07:02.220
Daffodil Tyminski: went back up.

751
01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:03.660
james murez: Okay, so.

752
01:07:04.710 --> 01:07:05.610
james murez: yeah public comment.

753
01:07:06.750 --> 01:07:22.290
Helen Fallon: You can't move it to a committee you already had him on last month's agenda, this was all business, it was it should have been heard last month it's carried over there's no debate about this it's not like now, you can decide a board has to decide.

754
01:07:23.010 --> 01:07:25.920
Helen Fallon: What on the agenda business.

755
01:07:27.570 --> 01:07:30.720
james murez: Thank you, on the agenda for legion selections.

756
01:07:31.050 --> 01:07:36.120
Ivan: And it was through it at the meeting that the rules and selections meeting.

757
01:07:36.600 --> 01:07:38.850
Helen Fallon: Right, it was on the board agenda, I.

758
01:07:38.850 --> 01:07:42.360
Helen Fallon: met last month, it was on it just didn't get hurt.

759
01:07:42.420 --> 01:07:43.260
Helen Fallon: was like.

760
01:07:45.600 --> 01:07:47.310
Daffodil Tyminski: Ivan please no response.

761
01:07:47.370 --> 01:07:55.440
Daffodil Tyminski: i've been play by the rules, like everybody else, thank you Helen okay and we're closing public comment is the board of any comment.

762
01:08:01.650 --> 01:08:02.220
Daffodil Tyminski: Anyone.

763
01:08:04.560 --> 01:08:04.860
james murez: don't.

764
01:08:05.310 --> 01:08:11.400
james murez: Just take a vote Are we moving it to committee that was the motion, it was first in seconded who made the motion.

765
01:08:14.910 --> 01:08:15.150
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

766
01:08:15.180 --> 01:08:17.580
james murez: I can't too many people speaking, who made the motion.

767
01:08:19.590 --> 01:08:22.200
melissa diner: daffodil made the motion seconded it.

768
01:08:25.980 --> 01:08:28.980
james murez: Okay, and the motion is send.

769
01:08:30.210 --> 01:08:30.930
To committee.

770
01:08:36.930 --> 01:08:38.820
james murez: Okay let's call for the vote.

771
01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:41.940
james murez: I agree, yes.

772
01:08:44.910 --> 01:08:47.040
james murez: who's next daffodil.

773
01:08:47.460 --> 01:08:47.970
Yes.

774
01:08:49.170 --> 01:08:49.770
james murez: Melissa.

775
01:08:50.040 --> 01:08:50.430
yeah.

776
01:08:51.540 --> 01:08:52.080
james murez: Andre.

777
01:08:52.410 --> 01:08:52.830
Yes.

778
01:08:53.970 --> 01:08:54.510
james murez: NICO.

779
01:08:55.410 --> 01:08:55.860
No.

780
01:08:58.080 --> 01:08:58.590
james murez: Jason.

781
01:09:00.360 --> 01:09:00.840
Jason Sugars: Yes.

782
01:09:02.400 --> 01:09:02.820
james murez: Mike.

783
01:09:03.570 --> 01:09:04.170
Yes.

784
01:09:06.630 --> 01:09:07.680
james murez: Motion carries.

785
01:09:09.750 --> 01:09:11.370
james murez: Okay, the next one.

786
01:09:13.260 --> 01:09:19.410
james murez: Address valley violations and parking along speedway this was submitted by the ocean provoq committee.

787
01:09:24.690 --> 01:09:27.630
james murez: I will say that, so you all know, we got.

788
01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:37.770
james murez: A comment from somebody who was called out in that meeting as being the violator that needed to be prosecuted and the.

789
01:09:39.030 --> 01:09:49.830
james murez: person that that that was claimed to be the violator has since filed something with the city, because he was being abused verbally but the way that the motions written, we can certainly take the issue up.

790
01:09:52.530 --> 01:10:01.170
james murez: We just can't go around accusing individuals in the Community of having done something wrong without actually having proof that they did it.

791
01:10:03.360 --> 01:10:11.190
melissa diner: Right, so they they accused people out there meeting and then Now this is getting something that's now being escalated the city because of that.

792
01:10:12.330 --> 01:10:15.090
james murez: They made several.

793
01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:32.400
james murez: claims of not only making violations but also nasty name calling and things like the operator of the business is got a monopoly and he's he's you know brutalizing other people, or whatever the exact words were I don't remember but.

794
01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:36.060
james murez: It was very uncalled for.

795
01:10:37.560 --> 01:10:38.610
james murez: If it's a condition that.

796
01:10:38.610 --> 01:10:55.740
james murez: exists lapd needs to deal with, let them deal with it, but to call out to somebody that they don't like and they've had problems with them before and I don't know exactly what the issues were but you know the recordings online people can go back and listen if they want, but.

797
01:10:56.040 --> 01:10:59.400
Daffodil Tyminski: Well let's are we are we making a motion to put this on the agenda or not let's.

798
01:10:59.430 --> 01:11:02.340
Daffodil Tyminski: See, I think we just did it on the agenda will take a vote on it at the.

799
01:11:02.340 --> 01:11:05.520
james murez: board, I mean I don't see a problem with with asking.

800
01:11:07.170 --> 01:11:09.180
Daffodil Tyminski: Are you making emotion, to put it on the agenda.

801
01:11:09.540 --> 01:11:15.570
Andrea Boccaletti: We don't need emotion, for every single thing to go on the agenda yeah it's just it just do we have any we have any public comment about the item.

802
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:16.860
james murez: That we want to put on the agenda.

803
01:11:16.950 --> 01:11:21.690
Daffodil Tyminski: We do have some public comment i'm sure we'll have some board comments, so when we took public comment first.

804
01:11:21.930 --> 01:11:23.580
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'm Liz right go ahead.

805
01:11:27.480 --> 01:11:33.570
Elizabeth Wright: There, there is no indication, whether the emotional front walk businesses are complaining.

806
01:11:36.630 --> 01:11:44.910
Elizabeth Wright: there's the claim that their private property is being used by ballets but are the businesses actually complaining, or is it someone else.

807
01:11:47.220 --> 01:11:47.610
james murez: Okay.

808
01:11:47.940 --> 01:11:48.780
james murez: I could go back and.

809
01:11:48.810 --> 01:11:49.950
Daffodil Tyminski: You could go back and listen to.

810
01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:52.140
Daffodil Tyminski: me please because i'm here.

811
01:11:52.170 --> 01:11:53.640
james murez: you're right you're right.

812
01:11:54.240 --> 01:11:56.310
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Elizabeth i'm Helen go ahead.

813
01:11:59.040 --> 01:12:09.750
Helen Fallon: just want to point out, but anything that that held over from the last meeting under old business does not need to be discussed.

814
01:12:10.020 --> 01:12:19.440
Helen Fallon: Why supposed to be discussing the merits anyway, it just automatically carries over to the agenda just to you know move on and anything that is old business.

815
01:12:19.740 --> 01:12:24.990
Helen Fallon: should be going back on is on the agenda automatically because it would have been heard last month.

816
01:12:25.440 --> 01:12:32.760
Helen Fallon: But the meeting drug on so long that you decided to postpone hearing those kind of hold a second meeting and have a special meeting.

817
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:43.260
Helen Fallon: To consider all those items that you postpone that this is old business it's not to be reexamined and for you to decide this month, but all well now look at it again.

818
01:12:44.460 --> 01:12:51.660
Helen Fallon: What you're wasting your time just move on and get to the new business and decide the disposition of that and.

819
01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:52.710
Daffodil Tyminski: Remember we're going to.

820
01:12:52.740 --> 01:12:54.390
Helen Fallon: discuss the merits emotions.

821
01:12:54.690 --> 01:12:55.140
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

822
01:12:56.400 --> 01:12:57.360
Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa go ahead.

823
01:12:59.430 --> 01:13:02.970
Lisa Redmond: Helens absolutely right, this is basic robert's rules one to one.

824
01:13:03.300 --> 01:13:14.430
Lisa Redmond: it's old business if the board wants to decide to move it to a different committee or do something else with it then that's for the board to decide, but all business should automatically that was carried over.

825
01:13:14.850 --> 01:13:18.870
Lisa Redmond: That was new business be carried over is too old business on to this upcoming agenda.

826
01:13:21.360 --> 01:13:26.370
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Lisa i'm Erica go ahead and with Erica we're closing public comment.

827
01:13:30.330 --> 01:13:30.840
Daffodil Tyminski: Erica.

828
01:13:31.590 --> 01:13:34.500
Erica Moore: hi there sorry I didn't I didn't fly up there.

829
01:13:34.740 --> 01:13:34.920
Daffodil Tyminski: No, I.

830
01:13:35.160 --> 01:13:44.970
Erica Moore: was kind of wondering why it is that people in the public are more familiar with the guidelines, it seems like there must be some sort of training or.

831
01:13:45.570 --> 01:13:51.900
Erica Moore: Something that should be consulted by the board or certain people on the Board should know this because I think that.

832
01:13:52.410 --> 01:13:59.190
Erica Moore: You know I know the meetings do go really long and it seems like a lot of time is being wasted on things that if everybody knew what the correct.

833
01:14:00.180 --> 01:14:07.950
Erica Moore: format was this wouldn't be happening so I don't know this is my observation and I just want to throw this out there, for some reason, on the.

834
01:14:09.180 --> 01:14:21.750
Erica Moore: On these agendas when i'm going to the link from my phone, which is an android it's not an iPhone I cannot access your guys's meetings, it only gives me the option to download the agenda.

835
01:14:22.020 --> 01:14:27.300
Erica Moore: I don't know why that is, I know people, I know that have iphones aren't having that problem.

836
01:14:27.570 --> 01:14:36.120
Erica Moore: My desktop computer no problem, but my android doesn't work so maybe there's a glitch with that kind of linkage, since you guys have changed over.

837
01:14:36.420 --> 01:14:48.750
Erica Moore: To this other format, I just want to throw it out there, maybe somebody could look into that because there could be other people who don't have desktops or no they're not able to attend the meeting if they have any Angela so just want to say that thanks you guys.

838
01:14:49.350 --> 01:14:50.280
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Erica.

839
01:14:51.690 --> 01:14:56.040
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, do we have we have one hand up for board comments Andrea go ahead.

840
01:14:56.670 --> 01:14:59.040
Andrea Boccaletti: i'm on a MAC and it wasn't a hyperlink for me either.

841
01:15:00.360 --> 01:15:04.080
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, good to know will look into that um.

842
01:15:05.400 --> 01:15:09.210
Daffodil Tyminski: Does anyone have any anyone else on the committee have any comments.

843
01:15:14.370 --> 01:15:16.920
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, seeing no comments i'm.

844
01:15:19.170 --> 01:15:20.400
Daffodil Tyminski: Sure, make.

845
01:15:21.330 --> 01:15:30.210
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead a friendly amendment then to just put the rest of these items onto the board agenda and we can have the whole board hash out whether they should hear them.

846
01:15:31.230 --> 01:15:32.010
james murez: Well, you know I.

847
01:15:32.520 --> 01:15:36.030
Daffodil Tyminski: will comment on every one of these now we're probably gonna know i'm happy to.

848
01:15:36.120 --> 01:15:38.220
james murez: i'm happy to talk about them, you know we we.

849
01:15:39.450 --> 01:15:44.820
james murez: did not get through them last month that doesn't mean that we necessarily have to get to them this month, we could put them off another month.

850
01:15:46.170 --> 01:16:00.120
james murez: We do have the opportunity to make the agenda and and we don't necessarily have to put them on this agenda, anyway, we can go ahead and do what you said def adele and since our old business, we can just go ahead and hear them we didn't hear them once before.

851
01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:07.140
melissa diner: or can we put any of these on consent.

852
01:16:09.540 --> 01:16:09.990
Daffodil Tyminski: No.

853
01:16:10.740 --> 01:16:11.130
Okay.

854
01:16:13.260 --> 01:16:17.910
Daffodil Tyminski: they're the ocean pro up motions are just problematic motions like in the way they're written.

855
01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:23.850
Daffodil Tyminski: So if we can just have the board send them back that's fine we'll just waste time at the board meeting.

856
01:16:27.420 --> 01:16:27.720
james murez: yep.

857
01:16:27.930 --> 01:16:30.570
Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry, my eyes, I can't see when you're moving in.

858
01:16:30.990 --> 01:16:36.390
james murez: Okay sorry so we're down to 17 that's the last one, these are the two from Clark.

859
01:16:37.560 --> 01:16:39.600
james murez: Before that there was the mark Ryan back one.

860
01:16:41.610 --> 01:16:46.140
james murez: Regulating unpermitted food and drink on ocean for a walk good luck with that one.

861
01:16:48.060 --> 01:16:55.710
james murez: feedback from CD 11 regarding designation of Venice beach and I don't know what the rest of it says.

862
01:16:57.570 --> 01:17:06.570
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I believe this was not on last month's agenda that one I don't know the way you've imported stuff and it's all to me in my mind mixed up as to what we heard and what we didn't.

863
01:17:07.380 --> 01:17:08.070
james murez: Oh.

864
01:17:08.130 --> 01:17:09.450
Daffodil Tyminski: last one I believe was not.

865
01:17:09.450 --> 01:17:15.210
james murez: Old okay so there's parking violations on speedway regulated unpermitted food and drink.

866
01:17:16.440 --> 01:17:18.540
james murez: homeless things from.

867
01:17:19.890 --> 01:17:27.420
james murez: Clark yeah I think the mark right back one was new and somehow that got mixed in there, the mark right back one is new.

868
01:17:28.080 --> 01:17:31.470
Daffodil Tyminski: And Clark has his hand up as well Clark, did you have something to say.

869
01:17:31.590 --> 01:17:33.930
james murez: But you answer Clark, Sir old business.

870
01:17:35.280 --> 01:17:36.030
clark brown: But have you ever heard.

871
01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:38.190
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, go ahead, sorry.

872
01:17:38.280 --> 01:17:50.580
clark brown: This is a this relates to 1616 is the motion to send the memo which is 17 to Boston at the December meeting, I think we had the wrong motion.

873
01:17:51.090 --> 01:17:59.400
clark brown: And the motion it's not clear to me that we have the correct motion here, it should be a document entitled motion authorizing President.

874
01:17:59.970 --> 01:18:10.590
clark brown: Of the Venice neighborhood Council to send memo re homeless encampments and supporting the exhibits to Calvin Boston and others, and it should end with a paragraph three.

875
01:18:11.190 --> 01:18:25.770
clark brown: which states directs the chairman of the committee, etc, if that's what 16 is that's the correct motion, and it should be complete with three numbered paragraphs it's not clear to me that we have that.

876
01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:33.480
melissa diner: New scroll to that item Jim.

877
01:18:34.590 --> 01:18:42.330
james murez: Well, if we're going based on We just have to leave it on there, because it was on there from the previous one.

878
01:18:43.770 --> 01:18:45.930
james murez: We really shouldn't be changing it then.

879
01:18:46.770 --> 01:18:47.910
Daffodil Tyminski: I don't think that's what Clark.

880
01:18:47.910 --> 01:18:48.960
james murez: So so.

881
01:18:48.990 --> 01:18:50.880
james murez: So it's this this is right here's what.

882
01:18:50.880 --> 01:18:55.410
james murez: he's referring to this is 16 and 17 this is how they read on the previous one.

883
01:18:55.740 --> 01:18:57.570
clark brown: Right, and I think.

884
01:18:57.720 --> 01:19:00.870
clark brown: Before we had the wrong motion I.

885
01:19:01.110 --> 01:19:15.570
clark brown: emailed the motion to both Jim the correct motion to both Jim and daffodil and again it's a document entitled motion authorizing president of the Venice neighborhood Council and it ends with a paragraph three.

886
01:19:17.160 --> 01:19:26.550
Daffodil Tyminski: And if I think what happened to your clock I don't mean to cut you off, but I think what happened is when Clark did the agenda request, there was a certain set of language in there.

887
01:19:27.180 --> 01:19:35.580
Daffodil Tyminski: And then it came up on last month agenda and he realized, it was the wrong he realized before the meeting, it was the wrong language so emailed it to us.

888
01:19:35.790 --> 01:19:41.010
Daffodil Tyminski: For this time we pulled it again from the agenda requests not replacing it with his email.

889
01:19:41.610 --> 01:19:42.030
james murez: So.

890
01:19:42.060 --> 01:19:46.830
Daffodil Tyminski: I was still reading wrong, even though he's emailed us the right language.

891
01:19:46.890 --> 01:19:53.280
james murez: So then would the correct language, be to pull 16 and 17 out and put in his correct one.

892
01:19:54.480 --> 01:19:55.380
clark brown: yeah have you heard on that.

893
01:19:55.890 --> 01:19:59.160
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah go ahead Clark yeah he can fly by and I can but I think that's the problem here.

894
01:19:59.220 --> 01:20:03.990
clark brown: 17 has always been correct 17 is the memo to bond it.

895
01:20:04.710 --> 01:20:05.400
clark brown: But in order to.

896
01:20:05.610 --> 01:20:06.270
Have the.

897
01:20:07.380 --> 01:20:16.380
clark brown: haven't sent a Bot, and you need a motion and that's what 16 years 16 is the motion to send item 17 to Boston and.

898
01:20:18.240 --> 01:20:20.400
clark brown: The document I uploaded.

899
01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:39.510
clark brown: This week, over the weekend, I believe, and the document that I previously emailed to both Jim and daffodil was the correct 16 and you know, since this is really just a procedural matter if there's any question, I think the three of us can clear it up before the next meeting.

900
01:20:41.430 --> 01:20:47.010
clark brown: This is this isn't not a matter of substance it's strictly a matter of procedure.

901
01:20:47.790 --> 01:20:55.950
james murez: But, but I guess, then the question comes in, was the motion that you sent to us this week, this last weekend whenever.

902
01:20:58.440 --> 01:21:02.670
james murez: The motion that was heard and approved by the homeless committee.

903
01:21:04.260 --> 01:21:05.640
james murez: Or, yes, something that you did.

904
01:21:05.790 --> 01:21:06.180
clark brown: No, no.

905
01:21:07.050 --> 01:21:09.600
clark brown: No, it was approved by the homeless committee seven oh.

906
01:21:11.910 --> 01:21:12.450
james murez: Okay.

907
01:21:13.650 --> 01:21:21.090
james murez: And so, these two items 16 and 17 are actually one item and I don't know why they were submitted as separate items.

908
01:21:21.930 --> 01:21:23.580
clark brown: I just wonder, I was supposed to do.

909
01:21:25.110 --> 01:21:33.330
james murez: No, there so so the motion, so if we just took out 16 and we just said that the motion was 17.

910
01:21:34.500 --> 01:21:34.830
clark brown: For.

911
01:21:36.510 --> 01:21:41.970
melissa diner: yeah you just got to submit the crack text again so we're sure we that we have it Clark, but.

912
01:21:42.270 --> 01:21:48.690
clark brown: What you what 16 has the 17 doesn't have is this paragraph three, which says.

913
01:21:50.070 --> 01:21:59.220
clark brown: That the dnc directs the chairman of the committee to designate such members of the committee, as he deems appropriate to follow up with the address ease.

914
01:21:59.490 --> 01:22:09.960
clark brown: Regarding implementation of the recommendations in the memo and that was very important, because the sense was that these things go out and there's no follow up.

915
01:22:11.130 --> 01:22:19.230
clark brown: So we wanted to make it very clear with an action by the board that not only was the memo to go out but that.

916
01:22:21.210 --> 01:22:29.400
clark brown: The chairman of the committee, the homelessness committee direct someone to follow up with the city on implementing recommendations in the memo.

917
01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:37.140
melissa diner: that's fine, but you still need to submit all that text, then, to make sure that we have it, and then, did you also include who to send this to.

918
01:22:37.590 --> 01:22:37.770
clark brown: Like.

919
01:22:37.830 --> 01:22:42.780
melissa diner: The actual emails and names, because I can't see because he's not scrolling it down.

920
01:22:43.110 --> 01:22:44.520
clark brown: The top of the memo.

921
01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:50.700
clark brown: identifies all the addresses the lead one is bonded but he's not the only one.

922
01:22:50.790 --> 01:23:04.920
james murez: See I think what happened, Melissa he submitted it in the agenda request system, and this is what came in and then he resubmitted it as a form of an email and that just got left behind somehow because it wasn't clear that this was a replacement for the agenda request.

923
01:23:05.160 --> 01:23:12.660
melissa diner: yeah just always resubmit it through the agenda request, because then, if we have a duplicate we just delete it, but we have it, and then we're trying to get.

924
01:23:12.780 --> 01:23:24.780
melissa diner: rid of doing stuff manually right like i'd rather have it duplicate and delete the ones wrong then have to have Jim and I manually do it so just because you change it resubmit it through Agenda request correctly.

925
01:23:25.140 --> 01:23:26.040
clark brown: i'm sorry for the.

926
01:23:26.070 --> 01:23:28.770
clark brown: inconvenience, I can tell you I did.

927
01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:45.960
james murez: Okay, so at this point, though we're down to item 17 this was old business, we will correct the way that these two items flow together and we'll make them one item on the final agenda, Melissa and I will work on that, along with daffodil if necessary we're now.

928
01:23:45.990 --> 01:23:48.150
james murez: down to item 18 unless we have.

929
01:23:48.660 --> 01:23:49.590
clark brown: One more question.

930
01:23:50.730 --> 01:23:51.240
james murez: Okay.

931
01:23:51.630 --> 01:23:59.400
clark brown: Thank you, can I just double check this with you by emails between now and the board meeting, make sure that we've got right motion.

932
01:24:00.990 --> 01:24:03.060
james murez: yeah absolutely there's not a problem.

933
01:24:03.150 --> 01:24:05.670
clark brown: Okay that's all thank you very much for your time.

934
01:24:06.150 --> 01:24:12.000
james murez: Okay, did we have any questions about getting through all the old business items.

935
01:24:13.350 --> 01:24:13.620
melissa diner: yeah.

936
01:24:13.710 --> 01:24:14.010
Daffodil Tyminski: Can you.

937
01:24:14.190 --> 01:24:16.560
melissa diner: scroll down here, so I know what we're voting on.

938
01:24:16.590 --> 01:24:17.550
james murez: On here, there were.

939
01:24:17.610 --> 01:24:28.440
james murez: yeah on here, there were a couple of items that somehow got imported marks item here, and this other thing we're both not this is also a new business here I believe 99.

940
01:24:31.500 --> 01:24:34.200
james murez: This was yeah those those two items were both.

941
01:24:35.220 --> 01:24:38.670
james murez: I need to to to move them out of.

942
01:24:40.020 --> 01:24:42.060
james murez: All business now they're out of old business.

943
01:24:42.240 --> 01:24:45.660
Ivan: What what marks item what is new.

944
01:24:46.140 --> 01:24:48.900
james murez: Its new that's correct I just took it out of all business.

945
01:24:48.930 --> 01:24:49.620
Ivan: Okay, thank.

946
01:24:49.740 --> 01:24:52.740
Ivan: Thank you there's another one that we may have skipped over here.

947
01:24:53.610 --> 01:24:56.010
james murez: Now, so in old business, we have.

948
01:24:57.570 --> 01:25:01.110
james murez: So Okay, so we have 16 and 17.

949
01:25:02.700 --> 01:25:09.060
james murez: And 15 the unregulated vendors So those are the new on the valet parking OK.

950
01:25:09.570 --> 01:25:10.770
james murez: OK, so those are the old.

951
01:25:11.340 --> 01:25:12.030
Ivan: So for for.

952
01:25:12.690 --> 01:25:13.890
Ivan: You I don't know where they are.

953
01:25:14.220 --> 01:25:16.530
james murez: 1414 through 17.

954
01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:17.850
Ivan: we're old business and.

955
01:25:17.850 --> 01:25:21.240
james murez: Now we're now we're on to consent calendars.

956
01:25:22.950 --> 01:25:24.300
james murez: I don't know why that's there.

957
01:25:26.970 --> 01:25:29.850
melissa diner: We have no consent and no loop back items.

958
01:25:30.060 --> 01:25:31.800
james murez: not yet okay.

959
01:25:31.860 --> 01:25:34.260
james murez: We had when we write me.

960
01:25:34.560 --> 01:25:38.190
melissa diner: If you don't get new pack items we don't we're not putting any more on right.

961
01:25:38.220 --> 01:25:39.390
james murez: We don't have that is correct.

962
01:25:39.930 --> 01:25:50.820
james murez: That is, that is correct Lou Pack has not had a meeting yet and I don't know what we're gonna do about that I sent out an email today about it but it's off topic let's just keep moving on with this.

963
01:25:52.470 --> 01:25:56.610
melissa diner: Well, so okay motion will just be to approve the rest of the agenda, then.

964
01:25:57.750 --> 01:25:59.940
james murez: Well, so now the rest of this is new business.

965
01:26:00.390 --> 01:26:14.820
james murez: Okay, and and now we move this circle pilot thing down here we're going to support or not support it, and then we have a letter to Mr bond, and this is new business, and we have a couple of hands, it just popped up do we want to take that comment now definitely.

966
01:26:14.850 --> 01:26:15.270
james murez: keep going.

967
01:26:15.630 --> 01:26:15.720
melissa diner: I.

968
01:26:15.900 --> 01:26:32.640
melissa diner: don't understand you don't take public comment, unless you have a motion on the floor so like that's why we make motions periodically on add column in big bunches or in in certain scenarios on specific items, because otherwise we're not taking public comment so like.

969
01:26:32.700 --> 01:26:38.700
melissa diner: Okay, I think we need to stick with some of the things we've always done, because it keeps order to the process right.

970
01:26:38.730 --> 01:26:40.770
james murez: All right, all right so so.

971
01:26:40.980 --> 01:26:47.190
Daffodil Tyminski: let's back up Jim just announced what you're intending to do here like do you want to add all these are just you know.

972
01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:50.490
Daffodil Tyminski: And then we can make a motion, then we can.

973
01:26:50.490 --> 01:26:52.230
james murez: Take comment and yeah so the motion.

974
01:26:52.230 --> 01:26:53.430
james murez: would be to.

975
01:26:54.570 --> 01:27:03.990
james murez: move to to approve items, all the way up to item 21 which is new business, which means it's the the two consents and the.

976
01:27:05.100 --> 01:27:06.300
james murez: Old business items.

977
01:27:07.380 --> 01:27:07.530
melissa diner: Which.

978
01:27:08.400 --> 01:27:09.150
Daffodil Tyminski: We can see it.

979
01:27:10.200 --> 01:27:10.800
james murez: Oh sure.

980
01:27:11.940 --> 01:27:14.460
Daffodil Tyminski: So basically 18.

981
01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:21.990
james murez: So yeah it's the old business items, these are the old business items here that are all business.

982
01:27:22.140 --> 01:27:25.440
james murez: or 21 and and yeah now we're going back.

983
01:27:25.470 --> 01:27:26.220
james murez: yeah sorry.

984
01:27:26.460 --> 01:27:27.630
Daffodil Tyminski: Jim scroll back up.

985
01:27:28.080 --> 01:27:33.330
james murez: Okay, this one, here we this one, we talked about, and then we were told we shouldn't be.

986
01:27:33.330 --> 01:27:36.510
james murez: Talking about them this one we're sending to the committee.

987
01:27:36.960 --> 01:27:40.650
Daffodil Tyminski: Right, so now we're starting with 14 let's start with 14.

988
01:27:40.800 --> 01:27:45.270
james murez: Okay, and we're saying that we are putting this on the agenda is old business.

989
01:27:46.350 --> 01:27:46.830
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

990
01:27:47.220 --> 01:27:50.250
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay 14 to 22 the motion is to.

991
01:27:50.280 --> 01:27:53.820
james murez: Putting we're putting on as old business we're putting.

992
01:27:54.570 --> 01:28:07.350
james murez: On as old business and we're putting 17 on and 16 and 17 Melissa and I and Clark, and you are going to get together and figure out how the correct wording is so it comes out looking like emotion, rather than a statement.

993
01:28:08.340 --> 01:28:18.060
james murez: Now we're down to 18 which is consent, we don't have any consent items so we're going to approve that as well we don't have any land use projects that we're going to approve that as well.

994
01:28:18.330 --> 01:28:29.520
james murez: Now, new business is number 21 and so we're going down to where new businesses now does anybody have any public comment about those items which we just referred to.

995
01:28:30.060 --> 01:28:37.110
Daffodil Tyminski: So we're making a motion to put items 14 through 20 on the board agenda, as reflected on this agenda.

996
01:28:37.410 --> 01:28:38.100
Correct.

997
01:28:39.210 --> 01:28:43.980
melissa diner: Did you take a motion on 13 yet or is 13 included to consign this.

998
01:28:46.650 --> 01:28:50.040
melissa diner: None of this is going to consent well no not consent sorry.

999
01:28:51.150 --> 01:28:53.670
melissa diner: MAC was immediate you did we take emotion on that.

1000
01:28:53.940 --> 01:28:55.290
james murez: We already did and we already.

1001
01:28:56.460 --> 01:28:59.610
melissa diner: Okay, then it's just 14 through 20 or 21 whatever you.

1002
01:28:59.850 --> 01:29:00.600
james murez: want yes for.

1003
01:29:00.660 --> 01:29:02.100
james murez: For 21.

1004
01:29:03.780 --> 01:29:05.370
Daffodil Tyminski: hands up for public comment.

1005
01:29:06.300 --> 01:29:07.590
Andrea Boccaletti: Motion seconded first.

1006
01:29:07.590 --> 01:29:09.840
Daffodil Tyminski: Right i'll make that motion does that.

1007
01:29:10.440 --> 01:29:14.460
Daffodil Tyminski: emotion okay Andre made the motion all second it.

1008
01:29:18.150 --> 01:29:18.450
melissa diner: Okay.

1009
01:29:18.480 --> 01:29:18.900
Daffodil Tyminski: All right.

1010
01:29:19.320 --> 01:29:20.400
Daffodil Tyminski: Excellent muted myself.

1011
01:29:20.730 --> 01:29:23.160
james murez: Now let's take public comment right.

1012
01:29:23.250 --> 01:29:26.280
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'm Elizabeth go ahead, thanks.

1013
01:29:27.630 --> 01:29:33.540
Elizabeth Wright: If you haven't examined the other motions, how can you stay there is nothing wrong consent.

1014
01:29:35.790 --> 01:29:36.540
Elizabeth Wright: You may not yet.

1015
01:29:37.770 --> 01:29:38.160
But all.

1016
01:29:40.500 --> 01:29:44.430
Daffodil Tyminski: Right now understood thanks Liz Lisa redmond go ahead.

1017
01:29:51.810 --> 01:29:54.990
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay Erica go ahead least if you come back up raise your hand.

1018
01:29:58.710 --> 01:29:59.220
Daffodil Tyminski: Erica.

1019
01:30:00.330 --> 01:30:04.140
Erica Moore: hi that the little icon is taking a moment to show up on the screen.

1020
01:30:04.410 --> 01:30:07.470
Erica Moore: No response might have happened to lease it to i'm not sure.

1021
01:30:07.860 --> 01:30:16.050
Erica Moore: i'm okay i'm in favor of that and I just I just want to say this, and please don't take this as a criticism, but It just seems like very unorganized and like.

1022
01:30:16.320 --> 01:30:23.970
Erica Moore: You guys aren't in sync and like a line with what's going on some of this conversation, it seems like this should be happening before the meeting starts like you guys.

1023
01:30:24.240 --> 01:30:34.680
Erica Moore: need to figure out your plan and go through this agenda before we're all it's like we're sitting in on your guys's meeting that's not the meeting it's like it should be like the free meeting or something I don't know.

1024
01:30:35.070 --> 01:30:41.640
Erica Moore: It just seems like maybe the President, Secretary and VP you guys should get together and go through this in advance so that.

1025
01:30:41.910 --> 01:30:46.590
Erica Moore: When you guys open up the meeting it's like boom boom boom we just go and make it happen so.

1026
01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:59.610
Erica Moore: that's all I want to say you know and again, this is not trying to be criticism I just I know we all want the meetings to go fast and smooth and you do too so maybe maybe you guys can get together and work that out, but thank you guys, for your service.

1027
01:31:01.020 --> 01:31:01.710
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Erica.

1028
01:31:02.970 --> 01:31:13.500
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so we'll close public comment and let's talk about the board comment vicki has her hand raised, if anyone else wants to speak raise your hand vicki go ahead.

1029
01:31:17.460 --> 01:31:22.650
vickihalliday: i'm confused, I wanted to speak on 22 but we're not there yet, are we.

1030
01:31:22.800 --> 01:31:23.610
Daffodil Tyminski: we're not there yet.

1031
01:31:23.670 --> 01:31:25.710
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, they turned it coming coming right up.

1032
01:31:27.360 --> 01:31:28.380
Daffodil Tyminski: anyone else.

1033
01:31:29.460 --> 01:31:32.610
Daffodil Tyminski: This is items 14 through 21 whether we put them on the board agenda.

1034
01:31:35.790 --> 01:31:37.320
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, seeing no hands.

1035
01:31:38.400 --> 01:31:39.360
james murez: Have any objection.

1036
01:31:40.110 --> 01:31:42.960
Daffodil Tyminski: Close why I think we'll find that out when we vote.

1037
01:31:43.230 --> 01:31:50.820
james murez: Closed public comment well we'll just do it, it does anybody have any objection because we're going to vote on the whole thing at the end it's just a question now giving people.

1038
01:31:50.820 --> 01:31:51.540
james murez: Public comment.

1039
01:31:52.740 --> 01:31:57.420
Daffodil Tyminski: know we vote on this now we'll just take a roll call vote on 14 through 21.

1040
01:31:58.170 --> 01:32:01.620
Ivan: yeah to informal vote for the work product.

1041
01:32:02.820 --> 01:32:03.360
james murez: Okay.

1042
01:32:03.570 --> 01:32:07.890
Ivan: Melissa you want to take the very end, we go.

1043
01:32:08.280 --> 01:32:09.180
Ivan: We want to keep everything.

1044
01:32:09.210 --> 01:32:11.970
james murez: You want to keep track of who's here and we'll just.

1045
01:32:12.330 --> 01:32:13.200
melissa diner: I mean Jim.

1046
01:32:13.680 --> 01:32:30.450
melissa diner: Moving forward, I want to do all of this and not have you do it anymore, but it's very hard for minutes for me to like you do part and I do parts you just go down to 21 mark that everyone says yes real quickly i'm happy to call roll and be done with it, you know oh good hold on one second.

1047
01:32:35.760 --> 01:32:39.210
To 21.5 which is going to be.

1048
01:32:41.280 --> 01:32:44.580
21.5.

1049
01:32:47.400 --> 01:32:48.150
items.

1050
01:32:50.550 --> 01:33:01.980
james murez: 14 through 20.

1051
01:33:08.130 --> 01:33:10.710
james murez: And it was made by Melissa and.

1052
01:33:11.250 --> 01:33:11.640
Andrea Boccaletti: i've made.

1053
01:33:13.680 --> 01:33:15.090
james murez: It oh sorry yeah.

1054
01:33:19.710 --> 01:33:20.100
james murez: Okay.

1055
01:33:21.210 --> 01:33:22.170
james murez: I boat yes.

1056
01:33:24.720 --> 01:33:25.380
james murez: daffodil.

1057
01:33:25.710 --> 01:33:26.370
Yes.

1058
01:33:28.050 --> 01:33:28.620
james murez: alyssa.

1059
01:33:28.860 --> 01:33:29.460
melissa diner: I thought yeah.

1060
01:33:31.200 --> 01:33:31.740
james murez: Andre.

1061
01:33:32.040 --> 01:33:32.400
Yes.

1062
01:33:34.230 --> 01:33:34.680
james murez: NICO.

1063
01:33:35.640 --> 01:33:36.210
Yes.

1064
01:33:38.910 --> 01:33:39.510
james murez: Jason.

1065
01:33:40.110 --> 01:33:40.530
yay.

1066
01:33:41.760 --> 01:33:42.180
james murez: Mike.

1067
01:33:42.780 --> 01:33:43.410
Yes.

1068
01:33:44.760 --> 01:33:46.440
james murez: Motion carries unanimously.

1069
01:33:47.670 --> 01:33:49.860
james murez: Now let's move back up to.

1070
01:33:51.120 --> 01:34:01.920
james murez: 2322 okay So where do we want this circle pilot project to appear under new businesses, the first item, or the last item or in the middle.

1071
01:34:03.060 --> 01:34:10.890
james murez: I would say early on, is better because it's going to be an item that a fair amount of people are probably going to want to speak on his staff fidelis pointed out.

1072
01:34:12.060 --> 01:34:12.510
Mike Bravo: agree.

1073
01:34:12.780 --> 01:34:14.010
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I agree with that.

1074
01:34:14.370 --> 01:34:20.970
james murez: Okay, how much time do we want to guess that this is going to take 30 minutes 45 minutes, the discussion.

1075
01:34:21.690 --> 01:34:27.390
Daffodil Tyminski: we're not going to have the ability, at that point in the meeting to have that much discussion, I think.

1076
01:34:28.110 --> 01:34:32.790
james murez: So we'll just guess it 30 minutes and it's just a guest automation it's not important.

1077
01:34:34.290 --> 01:34:38.070
james murez: Okay, so that that'll be 21 so we'll put that there.

1078
01:34:39.810 --> 01:34:44.070
james murez: And then the next one, is a letter to bonnen, and this was from Clark.

1079
01:34:46.230 --> 01:34:46.710
james murez: Oh, we have.

1080
01:34:47.370 --> 01:34:48.660
Daffodil Tyminski: come out of the homeless committee.

1081
01:34:49.290 --> 01:34:51.090
james murez: Know came from Clark directly.

1082
01:34:53.160 --> 01:34:55.260
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so we need to send that to the homeless committee.

1083
01:34:55.890 --> 01:34:56.250
yeah.

1084
01:35:00.180 --> 01:35:01.650
james murez: Clark, did you have something you wanted to say.

1085
01:35:01.890 --> 01:35:03.810
Daffodil Tyminski: Well, not not yet let's go through the.

1086
01:35:03.810 --> 01:35:04.710
Daffodil Tyminski: process again.

1087
01:35:04.770 --> 01:35:09.180
james murez: Well, wait, maybe, maybe this maybe this did come from the homeless Committee did this come from the homeless committee.

1088
01:35:09.210 --> 01:35:11.190
clark brown: No, it did not open this committee.

1089
01:35:11.280 --> 01:35:12.360
james murez: Okay, so then hold on.

1090
01:35:14.790 --> 01:35:26.310
james murez: Okay, are the hand so let's let's first do this let's are we in agreement that 21 needs to go on the end so do we have a maker, and a second or.

1091
01:35:26.910 --> 01:35:29.250
Daffodil Tyminski: I think, Jim the way I would do this is.

1092
01:35:29.460 --> 01:35:34.050
Daffodil Tyminski: let's preview the next just very go through the next couple of items.

1093
01:35:34.200 --> 01:35:35.700
Daffodil Tyminski: right we don't have that many more.

1094
01:35:36.150 --> 01:35:36.510
james murez: yep.

1095
01:35:36.870 --> 01:35:37.230
Daffodil Tyminski: And let's.

1096
01:35:37.260 --> 01:35:41.160
Daffodil Tyminski: figure out which ones we think should definitely go on the agenda and make that motion.

1097
01:35:41.550 --> 01:35:46.140
james murez: And there's some duplicates because I imported it a second time but that's Okay, we can delete them as we go.

1098
01:35:46.170 --> 01:35:47.970
Daffodil Tyminski: understood and.

1099
01:35:48.030 --> 01:35:48.330
james murez: I think.

1100
01:35:49.470 --> 01:35:51.300
james murez: I actually think these are the duplicates.

1101
01:35:51.480 --> 01:35:52.890
james murez: Because these things.

1102
01:35:53.040 --> 01:35:56.190
james murez: Okay, I get no, no, no hold on I think they repeat themselves down here say.

1103
01:35:58.110 --> 01:36:03.810
james murez: It just takes a second we just delete them real quick motion Community impact same and I was right backs.

1104
01:36:05.550 --> 01:36:13.530
james murez: Creation of the ugly yeah see So these are the ones, so let me, let me remove these other ones I Maybe I should just leave them, for now, it doesn't matter.

1105
01:36:13.620 --> 01:36:16.380
Daffodil Tyminski: Just for now it's we don't need to clean it up now, but let's go.

1106
01:36:16.410 --> 01:36:20.160
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, it looks like there's five items, now that our new business.

1107
01:36:20.610 --> 01:36:21.990
james murez: You know yep.

1108
01:36:23.550 --> 01:36:24.660
Daffodil Tyminski: 21 to.

1109
01:36:24.990 --> 01:36:25.650
Daffodil Tyminski: keep going.

1110
01:36:27.180 --> 01:36:30.930
melissa diner: And you can just put a note on 22 right now, this says, I just committed.

1111
01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:33.450
Daffodil Tyminski: Wait Melissa just wait one second 23.

1112
01:36:33.840 --> 01:36:34.170
Daffodil Tyminski: Which is.

1113
01:36:34.500 --> 01:36:35.430
Daffodil Tyminski: already dealt with.

1114
01:36:35.730 --> 01:36:37.620
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay 24.

1115
01:36:37.950 --> 01:36:38.520
Okay.

1116
01:36:41.970 --> 01:36:43.110
Daffodil Tyminski: 25.

1117
01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:44.160
Okay.

1118
01:36:47.220 --> 01:36:52.080
Daffodil Tyminski: And that one I can't even read 26 and then there that's it right that's the last one.

1119
01:36:52.590 --> 01:36:53.580
james murez: yeah oh i'm.

1120
01:36:53.700 --> 01:36:54.120
Daffodil Tyminski: So.

1121
01:36:55.050 --> 01:36:55.740
james murez: Except for this.

1122
01:36:55.980 --> 01:36:57.420
james murez: let's just double check.

1123
01:36:59.640 --> 01:37:03.810
james murez: marks actually did have emotion and there it is yeah so Summer Olympics.

1124
01:37:05.730 --> 01:37:06.210
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

1125
01:37:06.300 --> 01:37:08.040
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah these are your back down to what you created.

1126
01:37:08.280 --> 01:37:11.580
Daffodil Tyminski: So it looks like of all of those they all need to go to a committee.

1127
01:37:12.240 --> 01:37:14.490
Daffodil Tyminski: You know if we're going to make a motion.

1128
01:37:15.450 --> 01:37:31.530
Daffodil Tyminski: The only motion, I think we would make is on number 21 and I would make a motion to put 21 on the board agenda and put items 22 and refer items 22 through I think it's 26.

1129
01:37:32.670 --> 01:37:33.120
Daffodil Tyminski: To.

1130
01:37:33.150 --> 01:37:40.500
Ivan: The appropriate place no no depth is one that I have to pull out of there when we get to it.

1131
01:37:40.920 --> 01:37:41.790
james murez: Which one is it.

1132
01:37:42.480 --> 01:37:46.350
Ivan: The What about the creation of the ad hoc committee, the whole thing is wrong.

1133
01:37:47.460 --> 01:37:49.620
Ivan: that's not how you created a committee.

1134
01:37:50.010 --> 01:37:51.390
Daffodil Tyminski: But that's what we're sending it back to.

1135
01:37:51.420 --> 01:37:52.530
We should send that to neighborhood.

1136
01:37:53.550 --> 01:37:55.140
Ivan: it's not coming from a committee.

1137
01:37:55.620 --> 01:37:57.210
james murez: it's coming from an individual.

1138
01:37:57.210 --> 01:38:08.040
james murez: There no it's coming it's coming from a stakeholder this actually just has to go back to the stakeholder the stakeholder has to write the mission statement and submit the mission statement to add calm.

1139
01:38:08.790 --> 01:38:18.930
Daffodil Tyminski: me guys the mechanics the motion is we put 21 on the board agenda and 22 through 26 go back to the committee or the appropriate place.

1140
01:38:19.920 --> 01:38:20.400
Okay.

1141
01:38:21.870 --> 01:38:25.260
james murez: yeah I don't have a problem with that we have some raised hands, but I think you're correct.

1142
01:38:25.530 --> 01:38:25.950
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah so.

1143
01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:28.410
melissa diner: emotion, you can just do it.

1144
01:38:28.470 --> 01:38:29.580
melissa diner: All in one line.

1145
01:38:29.610 --> 01:38:30.930
Daffodil Tyminski: Right that's what i'm trying to do.

1146
01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:31.320
So now.

1147
01:38:32.400 --> 01:38:35.010
Daffodil Tyminski: it's been seconded and let's take some public comment.

1148
01:38:35.760 --> 01:38:39.750
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'm sorry i'm trying to click on it it's not.

1149
01:38:42.540 --> 01:38:43.950
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay Erica go ahead.

1150
01:38:44.490 --> 01:38:44.790
Oh.

1151
01:38:46.650 --> 01:38:47.100
Erica Moore: I.

1152
01:38:48.360 --> 01:38:50.280
Erica Moore: I I didn't have my.

1153
01:38:51.030 --> 01:38:52.860
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh sorry Maybe it was from before.

1154
01:38:53.250 --> 01:38:55.200
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah i'm sorry about that I didn't.

1155
01:39:00.270 --> 01:39:00.750
Tell him.

1156
01:39:03.810 --> 01:39:09.360
Helen Fallon: Now I would urge you to be consistent and how you handle motions from stakeholders.

1157
01:39:10.140 --> 01:39:16.200
Helen Fallon: Now, if the stakeholders didn't want it to go to a committee because they could have submitted directly to a committee.

1158
01:39:16.650 --> 01:39:22.290
Helen Fallon: That it should go back to them saying now, if you want to get another board agenda you're gonna have to get a petition.

1159
01:39:22.950 --> 01:39:29.130
Helen Fallon: i'm not sure why you're having different rules for different people are that's what it's starting to sound like so.

1160
01:39:29.820 --> 01:39:39.870
Helen Fallon: I strongly suggest that you follow what your Rules say you're supposed to do when it comes from a stakeholder or even a board member, because you don't have board member motions.

1161
01:39:41.820 --> 01:39:42.540
Helen Fallon: They wanted to get.

1162
01:39:42.930 --> 01:39:48.300
Helen Fallon: It then they can submit it to committee, you would tell them, we recommend that you submit it directly to the committee.

1163
01:39:49.920 --> 01:39:51.930
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Helen Lisa go ahead.

1164
01:39:58.440 --> 01:39:59.700
Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa did you want to speak.

1165
01:40:05.910 --> 01:40:08.100
Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa me some technical.

1166
01:40:13.260 --> 01:40:13.860
Lisa Redmond: There you go.

1167
01:40:15.120 --> 01:40:22.590
Lisa Redmond: i'm i'm a little confused because there's just been so much chit chat back and forth, and the scrolling on the screen back and forth back and forth back and forth.

1168
01:40:24.510 --> 01:40:40.470
Lisa Redmond: you're leaving the the pilot circle project on I know I was late to the meeting that's not going to go to a committee that's coming directly on but everything else below that is going back to committee, all those new motions that have not been heard by committee right.

1169
01:40:41.460 --> 01:40:45.390
Daffodil Tyminski: Or the appropriate place, you know as required, yes.

1170
01:40:45.930 --> 01:40:50.250
Lisa Redmond: Well, I don't know what the appropriate places required would be other than a committee.

1171
01:40:51.510 --> 01:40:52.680
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thank you Lisa.

1172
01:40:53.850 --> 01:40:57.480
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm okay we're closing public comment let's go to board comment.

1173
01:40:57.780 --> 01:40:58.410
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh i'm.

1174
01:41:00.450 --> 01:41:01.110
Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry, oh.

1175
01:41:01.800 --> 01:41:02.910
clark brown: Oh yeah i'd like to be heard on.

1176
01:41:02.910 --> 01:41:05.370
Daffodil Tyminski: This yes, I will call on everyone that with their hand raised.

1177
01:41:05.370 --> 01:41:06.180
Daffodil Tyminski: Clark go ahead.

1178
01:41:06.810 --> 01:41:20.280
clark brown: Oh, this is regard to the letter to Boston which would, I propose would be signed by Jim your, as the President this had as I sent him the attachment here in the description, which is the least on my screen I.

1179
01:41:21.210 --> 01:41:22.620
clark brown: noted that this had not been.

1180
01:41:22.980 --> 01:41:33.900
clark brown: approved by the homelessness committee but paragraph for the motion, provided that the letter cannot be sent out until it was approved by the homelessness committee, so the homelessness committee will.

1181
01:41:35.070 --> 01:41:43.230
clark brown: get a chance to review it and approve it, and if it doesn't prove it does not approve it it's not going out the advantage to having the board act on it first.

1182
01:41:43.470 --> 01:41:58.830
clark brown: Is that we move in a head by a month, having the homelessness committee approve it first do the calendar problems it won't go out for another month or two, and then the email correspondence I had with Jim about this Jim was of the opinion that this did not require.

1183
01:41:59.850 --> 01:42:12.060
clark brown: emotion by the board his letter to bond and and the CEO of law would not require a bottle of board motion and obviously I was delighted with that and I don't I don't think it does.

1184
01:42:13.440 --> 01:42:23.760
clark brown: But if it does the homelessness committee will not be a stout because paragraph for the mobile provides that it has to approve it before it goes out and this.

1185
01:42:25.500 --> 01:42:34.860
clark brown: Item 22 here on this agenda is complimentary to items 17 items 17 know will not be productive unless we.

1186
01:42:35.490 --> 01:42:43.020
james murez: start, let me, let me interrupt you, I told you that if if we if you write a letter daffodil and I will read it, if it.

1187
01:42:43.080 --> 01:42:46.650
james murez: seems appropriate i'm more than happy to send it out, we don't.

1188
01:42:46.650 --> 01:42:46.830
clark brown: Have.

1189
01:42:46.860 --> 01:42:47.940
james murez: To have a committee.

1190
01:42:48.180 --> 01:43:07.770
james murez: And the board take action for me to be able to make a request of the city to provide us documentation on something that they have in their possession it doesn't take board actions, so this is it doesn't need to be on the agenda it's only here, because you submitted it as an agenda.

1191
01:43:07.770 --> 01:43:08.730
clark brown: Requests all right.

1192
01:43:09.120 --> 01:43:11.430
clark brown: I agree with that analysis I think you're right.

1193
01:43:11.940 --> 01:43:12.450
james murez: Thank you.

1194
01:43:13.500 --> 01:43:14.010
james murez: daffodil.

1195
01:43:14.040 --> 01:43:15.030
james murez: let's go back to.

1196
01:43:15.660 --> 01:43:18.390
Daffodil Tyminski: What we have other people with their hands raised so let's take.

1197
01:43:18.900 --> 01:43:21.030
Daffodil Tyminski: The comment, and then we can have a discussion.

1198
01:43:21.090 --> 01:43:21.390
james murez: yeah.

1199
01:43:21.420 --> 01:43:23.220
Daffodil Tyminski: No go on vicki go ahead.

1200
01:43:23.850 --> 01:43:30.390
vickihalliday: um My problem with this isn't it isn't even emotion and as we just discussed.

1201
01:43:31.650 --> 01:43:35.670
vickihalliday: In reading what Clark wrote basically all this thing.

1202
01:43:35.670 --> 01:43:45.420
vickihalliday: blows down to is a letter being sent to get him a meeting with Barnes office and La la I think that we're if.

1203
01:43:46.020 --> 01:43:56.910
vickihalliday: We start putting things like this through it's a dangerous precedent to start setting up meetings for board members, I mean he could do this on his own.

1204
01:43:57.540 --> 01:44:03.540
vickihalliday: Or do it through you know if he wants to get Jim to writing a letter fine, but we shouldn't start hearing.

1205
01:44:04.530 --> 01:44:18.300
vickihalliday: motions to get people meetings I mean we will be inundated i'll submit a few, but I think we have to, we have to think ahead about stuff like this, this was about a meeting to be at.

1206
01:44:20.130 --> 01:44:24.180
vickihalliday: that's my that's my say on it, I think I think it was a ridiculous request.

1207
01:44:26.040 --> 01:44:26.610
james murez: Thank you, big.

1208
01:44:26.640 --> 01:44:32.460
Daffodil Tyminski: um does anyone else on the board, have any public or have any comments sorry.

1209
01:44:34.290 --> 01:44:36.810
Mike Bravo: I do, I want to agree with what lucky says.

1210
01:44:38.190 --> 01:44:43.770
Mike Bravo: I think people can decide things people can do you know self sufficiently that they can you know address and make a.

1211
01:44:45.150 --> 01:44:50.310
Mike Bravo: You know, to make appointments with bonds off is good luck on that um but I mean yeah.

1212
01:44:51.870 --> 01:44:52.920
Mike Bravo: level of self sufficiency.

1213
01:44:55.050 --> 01:44:55.530
Daffodil Tyminski: um.

1214
01:44:56.790 --> 01:45:06.660
Daffodil Tyminski: i've raised my own hand and i'll make a comment quickly I don't think it's a wise practice to pre approve letters and send them to committees.

1215
01:45:07.740 --> 01:45:17.880
Daffodil Tyminski: Because there's just a lot of room for Mr Goss there, I think that the committee's have a function it's to vet these issues and hear them in a more less time sensitive way.

1216
01:45:18.390 --> 01:45:33.690
Daffodil Tyminski: And then come up with something that can be sent to the board for approval, but if we pre approval letter and then the Committee doesn't adopt that exact letter now it comes back to the board anyway, and I just don't think frankly a we have that kind of time.

1217
01:45:34.980 --> 01:45:42.030
Daffodil Tyminski: and be that we want to adopt that practice to me that's just rife with possibilities for mischief so.

1218
01:45:43.530 --> 01:45:47.880
Daffodil Tyminski: I also don't think that we should just be sending letters without board approval.

1219
01:45:49.380 --> 01:45:50.910
Daffodil Tyminski: But that's just my personal feeling.

1220
01:45:52.380 --> 01:45:55.170
Daffodil Tyminski: NICO has his hand raised as well NICO go ahead.

1221
01:45:56.850 --> 01:46:09.690
Nico Ruderman: I really just want to echo what you're saying, and it really it seems kind of like just like we're working backwards sending the board approving something to send to a committee just it just it's just seems to be working backwards.

1222
01:46:11.820 --> 01:46:24.060
james murez: And I will chime in on that one also I actually have a real problem with that, I think that it would be giving a committee, the impression that the Board was approving something, and that was sort of be.

1223
01:46:25.110 --> 01:46:34.440
james murez: suggesting that that they if they want to please the board that they approve it as well, and I think that that is very much putting the cart before the horse.

1224
01:46:35.160 --> 01:46:45.240
james murez: it's backwards and we don't want to start pre approving letters, because it sends the message that we've already approved of something that we haven't heard all of the.

1225
01:46:46.110 --> 01:46:53.040
james murez: Important committee work that needs to take place before something is proposed, so at any rate, as far as sending letters.

1226
01:46:54.000 --> 01:47:17.310
james murez: When when this was proposed to me, it was a request for information about la X parcels that that the Council offices, said that they have and le X, has said that they don't have, and I did not see any reason that, as President, I could not write a letter and formally asked for the information.

1227
01:47:18.660 --> 01:47:21.510
james murez: Does it need to come from an individual board member.

1228
01:47:22.080 --> 01:47:35.250
james murez: You know, maybe, does it carry more weight coming from the President I don't know but I don't mind writing a letter I told Clark that he needed to scratch it out and daffodil and I would look at it, and then we would decide what to do with it so that's where we stand on it at this point.

1229
01:47:36.930 --> 01:47:44.520
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so, with no more board common do we have we we should take a vote on the motion, which again is to.

1230
01:47:45.690 --> 01:47:51.870
Daffodil Tyminski: place item 21 on the board agenda and send 22 to 26 to their respective appropriate places.

1231
01:47:53.940 --> 01:47:57.960
james murez: So we need to take a vote on that go um.

1232
01:47:59.370 --> 01:48:12.270
james murez: I guess I can do it here I don't need to see did I have another one, because we have all these extra votes going on in the middle it's sort of complicated there was one down here at the bottom, this was 14 through 21 and now what we're saying is is that.

1233
01:48:13.290 --> 01:48:15.420
james murez: We already did that, so let me add one more.

1234
01:48:16.740 --> 01:48:17.730
james murez: So add one.

1235
01:48:20.640 --> 01:48:23.550
james murez: Call it 21.75.

1236
01:48:26.130 --> 01:48:28.590
james murez: sort these things out, they will come out correctly.

1237
01:48:30.930 --> 01:48:35.010
james murez: 21.75.

1238
01:48:36.180 --> 01:48:45.690
james murez: And this is items 22 through the balance.

1239
01:48:47.520 --> 01:48:49.200
james murez: Whatever the last number was.

1240
01:48:50.550 --> 01:48:52.260
james murez: And we're going to say send.

1241
01:48:54.570 --> 01:48:55.800
To committee.

1242
01:48:57.900 --> 01:48:59.280
james murez: Actually that's the motion.

1243
01:49:02.100 --> 01:49:02.760
Daffodil Tyminski: That correct.

1244
01:49:03.750 --> 01:49:04.050
Okay.

1245
01:49:05.760 --> 01:49:06.420
Ivan: Jim.

1246
01:49:06.900 --> 01:49:07.410
james murez: yeah no.

1247
01:49:07.860 --> 01:49:20.580
Ivan: go through one more thing here just to make sure that everybody's clear these items that you're sending back to committee or to an individual can we just go through them and just be sure we're clear who's going to.

1248
01:49:22.560 --> 01:49:23.220
melissa diner: Put a note.

1249
01:49:23.280 --> 01:49:24.090
melissa diner: On each one.

1250
01:49:25.560 --> 01:49:30.270
Ivan: Alright, so the bonding one was clark's motion that's going to homeless.

1251
01:49:31.290 --> 01:49:32.010
Ivan: or two o'clock.

1252
01:49:33.660 --> 01:49:36.690
james murez: So we'll say here, this is sent to the President.

1253
01:49:39.540 --> 01:49:41.220
Ivan: yeah okay.

1254
01:49:42.450 --> 01:49:45.240
Ivan: 23 years going to rule them selection.

1255
01:49:49.680 --> 01:49:50.130
Ivan: Right.

1256
01:49:50.490 --> 01:49:53.130
Daffodil Tyminski: Right 24 goes back to the stakeholder.

1257
01:49:53.550 --> 01:49:55.980
Ivan: When he goes to.

1258
01:49:56.520 --> 01:49:59.400
james murez: 2024 is the creation right, this goes back to.

1259
01:49:59.670 --> 01:49:59.970
That.

1260
01:50:01.080 --> 01:50:07.470
Ivan: Should that may being go to the workload committee that's where to probably go eventually but.

1261
01:50:07.860 --> 01:50:10.140
Daffodil Tyminski: Maybe neighborhood committee would be happy to take it, but.

1262
01:50:10.170 --> 01:50:14.220
Ivan: I wonder why don't you do that, rather than back.

1263
01:50:14.610 --> 01:50:15.150
james murez: isn't.

1264
01:50:15.300 --> 01:50:23.130
james murez: isn't the proper procedure for the stakeholder to submit a mission statement to add calm.

1265
01:50:23.400 --> 01:50:26.610
james murez: Yes, so that's what's going to happen okay let's keep.

1266
01:50:26.670 --> 01:50:27.300
Ivan: Okay, then.

1267
01:50:27.570 --> 01:50:28.200
Ivan: Alright tutors.

1268
01:50:28.260 --> 01:50:29.730
james murez: tone that's the that's the current.

1269
01:50:31.170 --> 01:50:31.800
Ivan: role in there.

1270
01:50:32.190 --> 01:50:36.270
james murez: And then, this one feedback from CD 11 regarding the designation of Venice beach BA BA BA BA.

1271
01:50:36.300 --> 01:50:39.480
james murez: And this one goes oh yeah ocean, this goes version front walk.

1272
01:50:42.690 --> 01:50:43.020
Lisa Redmond: neighbor.

1273
01:50:43.260 --> 01:50:54.960
Ivan: Well here's the thing about that one if you dug up the original Article, and all this stuff and it really the criteria and everything are insane.

1274
01:50:56.790 --> 01:50:57.360
Ivan: The.

1275
01:50:58.440 --> 01:51:03.390
Ivan: But if we do halfway down to the actual emotion, this is an attack on Mike bonnet.

1276
01:51:05.370 --> 01:51:14.400
Ivan: So and i'm not saying you should or shouldn't do that but that's what this is about, so I don't know who you would send it to.

1277
01:51:18.030 --> 01:51:31.680
Ivan: The same thing he's listening all these criteria that this is the worst fee and it's all my fault and then let's go after Mike bonnet though it's not about being divorced, be the most dangerous we.

1278
01:51:32.460 --> 01:51:44.610
james murez: When we if we send it to ocean block, they can turn it into whatever they want and propose it as a non aggressive but information gathering motion.

1279
01:51:45.420 --> 01:51:53.610
james murez: Okay, just we're not going to hear it at the board not like this it hasn't gone through committee and because he's talking about Venice beach, to me, that means ocean for a walk committee.

1280
01:51:53.850 --> 01:51:54.600
Ivan: Because we don't.

1281
01:51:54.630 --> 01:51:56.940
james murez: We don't have a beach committee.

1282
01:51:57.510 --> 01:52:02.130
Ivan: Is yeah it's actually not, but if you want to send it there that's your call well.

1283
01:52:02.190 --> 01:52:04.230
james murez: Would you rather send it to the neighborhood committee.

1284
01:52:05.100 --> 01:52:08.280
Ivan: coach the criteria that this article you.

1285
01:52:10.050 --> 01:52:11.310
Daffodil Tyminski: guys, please.

1286
01:52:11.400 --> 01:52:13.020
Ivan: This is yes, this is.

1287
01:52:13.680 --> 01:52:15.120
Ivan: About, although I.

1288
01:52:15.570 --> 01:52:17.370
Daffodil Tyminski: send it to ocean front walk him.

1289
01:52:17.790 --> 01:52:18.570
james murez: yeah okay.

1290
01:52:19.710 --> 01:52:20.160
james murez: Okay.

1291
01:52:20.970 --> 01:52:22.980
james murez: and the next one, I guess.

1292
01:52:23.280 --> 01:52:24.120
james murez: Community of.

1293
01:52:24.300 --> 01:52:25.500
Ivan: original Article.

1294
01:52:26.760 --> 01:52:34.590
james murez: And the Community yeah well we'll talk about that later, a Community impact statement by Mark Ryan, where do we want to send that alright.

1295
01:52:34.860 --> 01:52:35.310
Ivan: So I.

1296
01:52:35.370 --> 01:52:37.200
Ivan: Am the article about.

1297
01:52:37.260 --> 01:52:38.310
Daffodil Tyminski: Ivan please.

1298
01:52:38.370 --> 01:52:42.660
Daffodil Tyminski: Ivan I know we've i've read the article I have the original Article to we're familiar with.

1299
01:52:42.960 --> 01:52:43.260
Ivan: What.

1300
01:52:43.350 --> 01:52:49.050
Ivan: It should go to rip with this item, so people know what they're talking about.

1301
01:52:53.070 --> 01:52:55.350
james murez: This goes, this goes to homeless, I think.

1302
01:52:55.770 --> 01:52:58.080
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, this goes to the homeless committee OK.

1303
01:52:59.520 --> 01:52:59.940
Ivan: OK.

1304
01:53:02.760 --> 01:53:05.640
Andrea Boccaletti: OK just raise man why can't we hear that.

1305
01:53:06.840 --> 01:53:14.280
Andrea Boccaletti: From the board, I mean that is pretty important that has been a speech that is our reputation, that is what we're here to protect that's what we're here to.

1306
01:53:14.670 --> 01:53:17.370
james murez: Are you talking, are you are you talking about item.

1307
01:53:17.760 --> 01:53:19.680
Andrea Boccaletti: 25 yes, that is.

1308
01:53:24.780 --> 01:53:25.680
Ivan: Can I answer them.

1309
01:53:27.960 --> 01:53:31.860
Daffodil Tyminski: I mean, so let me just say something we have already voted on this.

1310
01:53:32.220 --> 01:53:32.550
Ivan: All right.

1311
01:53:32.820 --> 01:53:46.320
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so we already we we went through them, we took the vote the vote is done, we are now just deciding which Community goes to I don't know why we have to do this part in a public meeting, but if you guys want to keep talking about it before we adjourn.

1312
01:53:46.320 --> 01:53:47.850
Andrea Boccaletti: find the vote on this one.

1313
01:53:48.180 --> 01:53:50.310
james murez: No, we haven't we haven't voted on it, we had a.

1314
01:53:50.880 --> 01:53:51.540
Daffodil Tyminski: Vote on this.

1315
01:53:51.750 --> 01:53:53.880
james murez: No, we didn't vote we got ready to vote.

1316
01:53:53.970 --> 01:53:55.050
Daffodil Tyminski: And then sorry my bad.

1317
01:53:55.080 --> 01:53:58.380
james murez: i've been i've been raised the point that which committee is it going to.

1318
01:53:58.860 --> 01:54:02.280
Daffodil Tyminski: Right okay so honestly, this is, this is becoming really.

1319
01:54:02.280 --> 01:54:03.690
Daffodil Tyminski: painful though this discussion.

1320
01:54:04.350 --> 01:54:09.240
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah so Ivan if we have we want to send stuff with it, you can tell us we'll send it.

1321
01:54:10.050 --> 01:54:11.610
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, but.

1322
01:54:12.720 --> 01:54:21.690
Daffodil Tyminski: We don't typically put motions from stakeholders directly onto the board agenda yeah I think the only time I can remember us doing that.

1323
01:54:22.200 --> 01:54:31.590
Daffodil Tyminski: In my recent memory without a petition or without you know where it's been rejected by a committee and they refuse to hear it, so we did it by petition was when it was particularly urgent.

1324
01:54:31.620 --> 01:54:33.840
Daffodil Tyminski: Because there was a Council file pending.

1325
01:54:34.140 --> 01:54:35.910
Daffodil Tyminski: And we had to get you know, otherwise we would have.

1326
01:54:35.910 --> 01:54:38.100
Daffodil Tyminski: had no voice so.

1327
01:54:39.240 --> 01:54:48.300
Daffodil Tyminski: This is not that kind of situation Andrea I don't think anyone disagrees with the spirit or maybe some people disagree with the way this is written, but the spirit of you know.

1328
01:54:48.660 --> 01:54:57.420
Daffodil Tyminski: where's the accountability for for Venice having this reputation, but you know to be fair, we really need to send it back to committee that's my two cents on.

1329
01:54:57.420 --> 01:55:00.360
Andrea Boccaletti: It but it's true that, when I was in Europe, we were on the front page.

1330
01:55:00.420 --> 01:55:05.280
Andrea Boccaletti: of European of Italian and French newspapers it's pretty amazing but anyway.

1331
01:55:06.630 --> 01:55:06.990
Andrea Boccaletti: Everyone.

1332
01:55:07.140 --> 01:55:22.290
james murez: can hear you, but I, I want to echo and I guess i'm just going to call the trump card at this is not an urgent matter, and I think that the language can be cleaned up and it doesn't have to be an assault on one individual and it's going to go to committee and that's.

1333
01:55:24.390 --> 01:55:36.390
james murez: Okay let's we didn't take a vote on that so we're sending things to committee 22 through the balance of whatever the other item numbers were did we have a second mate I mean a maker in a second here, I think we.

1334
01:55:36.390 --> 01:55:39.030
Daffodil Tyminski: actually need to say 22 to 26.

1335
01:55:39.360 --> 01:55:40.890
james murez: Is it through 26 okay.

1336
01:55:41.160 --> 01:55:46.560
Daffodil Tyminski: Because the balance would and implied the rest of the agenda, which obviously it doesn't make sense.

1337
01:55:46.860 --> 01:55:47.190
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

1338
01:55:47.250 --> 01:55:49.410
james murez: i'm glad I didn't I didn't know the last number.

1339
01:55:49.950 --> 01:55:52.650
james murez: send to committee is.

1340
01:55:53.010 --> 01:55:54.990
Daffodil Tyminski: A balance of proposed new business.

1341
01:55:56.430 --> 01:55:56.820
Daffodil Tyminski: He wanted.

1342
01:55:58.920 --> 01:56:04.770
james murez: Okay, but it won't be above as shown okay um who made that motion was that you definitely oh.

1343
01:56:05.220 --> 01:56:05.700
Yes.

1344
01:56:06.780 --> 01:56:07.800
james murez: And did we have a second.

1345
01:56:09.570 --> 01:56:10.560
melissa diner: I did.

1346
01:56:10.950 --> 01:56:15.960
james murez: yeah definitely Melissa Okay, and did we did we have any public comment on those items.

1347
01:56:16.560 --> 01:56:19.740
james murez: We did we did Okay, we already did that so we're just taking the boat.

1348
01:56:20.820 --> 01:56:25.380
james murez: i'm in agreement, so I will say yes daffodil go ahead.

1349
01:56:25.710 --> 01:56:26.220
Yes.

1350
01:56:27.630 --> 01:56:28.170
james murez: Melissa.

1351
01:56:28.770 --> 01:56:29.460
Yes.

1352
01:56:30.870 --> 01:56:31.290
james murez: Andre.

1353
01:56:33.270 --> 01:56:33.780
Andrea Boccaletti: Stan.

1354
01:56:36.300 --> 01:56:36.780
james murez: You go.

1355
01:56:37.830 --> 01:56:38.220
Nico Ruderman: No.

1356
01:56:40.200 --> 01:56:40.830
james murez: Jason.

1357
01:56:41.310 --> 01:56:41.670
yeah.

1358
01:56:42.900 --> 01:56:43.380
james murez: Mike.

1359
01:56:44.730 --> 01:56:45.120
Mike Bravo: Yes.

1360
01:56:46.410 --> 01:56:51.990
james murez: Motion carries 7510 excuse me 511.

1361
01:56:54.120 --> 01:56:55.740
james murez: And so that's German.

1362
01:56:56.340 --> 01:56:57.840
Ivan: yeah we're go back, no, no yeah.

1363
01:56:58.140 --> 01:56:59.370
james murez: Oh yeah you're right you're already after.

1364
01:56:59.670 --> 01:57:00.960
james murez: We have to go back to the big.

1365
01:57:00.990 --> 01:57:06.120
james murez: comic absolutely correct, let me just save this, so we have this for later.

1366
01:57:08.250 --> 01:57:10.890
james murez: And this will be final.

1367
01:57:14.370 --> 01:57:15.090
james murez: Draft.

1368
01:57:17.130 --> 01:57:29.070
james murez: Great and now let's go back to our other one which oops wrong place to go, we wanted to do the other one has recording the Minutes and that one was.

1369
01:57:31.770 --> 01:57:34.530
james murez: OK daffodil you're on what was it called continue.

1370
01:57:37.380 --> 01:57:38.820
james murez: Come back later there we go.

1371
01:57:41.760 --> 01:57:42.420
james murez: Okay.

1372
01:57:44.040 --> 01:57:46.950
james murez: So here we are, and we are now down to.

1373
01:57:48.090 --> 01:57:48.900
james murez: Item number eight.

1374
01:57:51.600 --> 01:57:57.330
james murez: And we now need to call for the motion capture the vote rather excuse me.

1375
01:57:58.680 --> 01:58:01.590
james murez: And that's approving the draft agenda.

1376
01:58:01.890 --> 01:58:03.960
Daffodil Tyminski: Can we have a motion on this, we did already make.

1377
01:58:03.990 --> 01:58:06.180
james murez: yeah we did Melissa and daffodil yeah.

1378
01:58:06.480 --> 01:58:07.620
james murez: yeah we're gonna say.

1379
01:58:08.850 --> 01:58:11.940
james murez: i'm going to say yes, and then call on deaf adult.

1380
01:58:12.240 --> 01:58:12.750
Yes.

1381
01:58:14.550 --> 01:58:15.210
james murez: and Melissa.

1382
01:58:15.690 --> 01:58:16.080
Yes.

1383
01:58:17.490 --> 01:58:18.120
james murez: Andreas.

1384
01:58:18.900 --> 01:58:19.290
No.

1385
01:58:22.050 --> 01:58:22.560
james murez: NICO.

1386
01:58:25.680 --> 01:58:26.130
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

1387
01:58:27.330 --> 01:58:27.930
james murez: Jason.

1388
01:58:28.350 --> 01:58:28.770
Yes.

1389
01:58:30.390 --> 01:58:31.350
james murez: And Mike bravo.

1390
01:58:31.740 --> 01:58:32.430
Yes.

1391
01:58:33.810 --> 01:58:35.940
james murez: 610.

1392
01:58:37.410 --> 01:58:38.730
james murez: i'm committee.

1393
01:58:40.290 --> 01:58:41.910
james murez: Let me just save that away real quick.

1394
01:58:43.530 --> 01:58:44.100
james murez: i'm.

1395
01:58:49.410 --> 01:58:53.580
james murez: Committee Member announcements and comments of items, not on the agenda.

1396
01:58:55.140 --> 01:58:59.100
james murez: Anybody have anything else, they want to still throw in there that wasn't previously discussed.

1397
01:59:02.970 --> 01:59:03.720
james murez: There to raise.

1398
01:59:04.410 --> 01:59:05.430
Daffodil Tyminski: Rates what.

1399
01:59:05.490 --> 01:59:10.110
james murez: Not not public comment right, this is bored comic committee comment.

1400
01:59:10.890 --> 01:59:11.970
Oh okay.

1401
01:59:13.710 --> 01:59:15.120
Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry Liz we can talk offline.

1402
01:59:16.500 --> 01:59:19.200
james murez: I mean we can make the exception, I don't care where we're headed.

1403
01:59:19.650 --> 01:59:25.590
Daffodil Tyminski: let's let's keep the process as it should be anyone on the board Andrea Do you still have a comment or.

1404
01:59:26.700 --> 01:59:27.000
Andrea Boccaletti: i'm.

1405
01:59:27.090 --> 01:59:35.490
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, I, I just wanted to know how the system works, but I have one more thing from budget and finance, which unfortunately we haven't been able to meet.

1406
01:59:37.230 --> 01:59:43.560
Andrea Boccaletti: Yet, because I had no mercy, but I have to just get the board to approve.

1407
01:59:44.580 --> 01:59:56.250
Andrea Boccaletti: And maybe one of you knows already if it's already been approved the Web corners scope of services for the Venice neighborhood Council the city is asking for that again.

1408
01:59:57.450 --> 01:59:59.340
Andrea Boccaletti: So i'm sure this has already been.

1409
02:00:00.900 --> 02:00:04.890
james murez: yeah it has changed, it would be the same as it has been in the past.

1410
02:00:05.220 --> 02:00:17.970
james murez: They the work that i've been having them do is not been an additional charge we've been able to keep that as part of the original scope, so it would be whatever you have in your files from whew that was leftover from before.

1411
02:00:18.180 --> 02:00:28.470
Andrea Boccaletti: Well, I didn't have anything in my class from here, but I got them to send me one again so i'll just need to get the board to vote on that again and to send them a board action.

1412
02:00:30.780 --> 02:00:31.500
james murez: And dre.

1413
02:00:31.620 --> 02:00:32.070
Ivan: I don't.

1414
02:00:32.640 --> 02:00:45.510
james murez: I don't know hold on a second hold on hold on I don't know that the board needs to somehow vote on something that was retro actively already agreed to in a contract.

1415
02:00:45.810 --> 02:00:47.010
Andrea Boccaletti: The city's asking for.

1416
02:00:47.460 --> 02:00:47.730
Your.

1417
02:00:48.870 --> 02:00:50.010
Ivan: Money you have to do it.

1418
02:00:50.070 --> 02:00:51.630
james murez: Ivan please stop.

1419
02:00:51.780 --> 02:00:52.260
Okay.

1420
02:00:54.180 --> 02:01:02.250
james murez: I don't believe that if the contract unless the contract expired at a particular point in time.

1421
02:01:03.600 --> 02:01:11.250
james murez: i'm not sure that we have to do that, that would be for the city to claim that the contract was incorrectly written and we'd have to go back and rewrite a new contract.

1422
02:01:11.580 --> 02:01:17.010
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, so you're saying we should already have a board action certificate with IRA and george's name on it.

1423
02:01:18.270 --> 02:01:26.460
james murez: Okay well do me a favor send me send me the document that the Web corner says they it was our agreement, let me look at it.

1424
02:01:26.880 --> 02:01:37.440
james murez: Because I thought that Hugh said that it was an open ended contract and if the rate wasn't changing and so i'm not sure why we would have to get that real the contract reapproved.

1425
02:01:38.040 --> 02:01:42.600
james murez: And then we're just city previously approved an open ended contract I don't see why we would need to get it.

1426
02:01:42.780 --> 02:01:43.860
Andrea Boccaletti: It just is that they.

1427
02:01:44.250 --> 02:01:52.590
Andrea Boccaletti: They told me they have new protocols and they just need these scope of services, ratified by the board again well.

1428
02:01:52.650 --> 02:01:54.180
james murez: How often do they need that done.

1429
02:01:54.810 --> 02:01:56.430
Andrea Boccaletti: I don't know but that's just what.

1430
02:01:56.670 --> 02:01:58.920
james murez: We need to find out, because if it's annually or.

1431
02:01:58.980 --> 02:02:00.720
Andrea Boccaletti: Maybe it's monthly or bimonthly we.

1432
02:02:00.720 --> 02:02:01.140
james murez: don't know.

1433
02:02:01.170 --> 02:02:05.100
Andrea Boccaletti: We could make this really easy and just put it on in my committee and boom get it done.

1434
02:02:05.490 --> 02:02:09.150
melissa diner: yeah that's what I would do Andrea until we figure this out just.

1435
02:02:09.180 --> 02:02:10.290
melissa diner: Do whatever you want.

1436
02:02:10.320 --> 02:02:16.470
melissa diner: To pass right now, it sounds like you have three motions draft your agenda post it and then, if.

1437
02:02:16.470 --> 02:02:21.150
melissa diner: You don't have to hear something on Tuesday great you know what I mean you don't have to hear it.

1438
02:02:22.020 --> 02:02:23.340
Andrea Boccaletti: straight over to general board.

1439
02:02:23.970 --> 02:02:34.710
james murez: So I have the ability to still add items to the Boards agenda up until the 72 hour mark if you have a meeting like we talked about.

1440
02:02:37.050 --> 02:02:45.990
james murez: Oh, we would have to get you'd have to tell us ahead of time what the item was going to be, and then the board could then vote on it.

1441
02:02:47.760 --> 02:02:48.150
Ivan: Right.

1442
02:02:48.990 --> 02:03:05.280
james murez: The half an hour before right, we would, I mean we would the committee would vote on it a half an hour before the board would then have it, so you have to send you have to submit an agenda request Okay, with their agreement their contract attached so everybody can see it.

1443
02:03:06.780 --> 02:03:08.160
james murez: And sub sub.

1444
02:03:09.180 --> 02:03:10.800
james murez: include a motion.

1445
02:03:11.820 --> 02:03:14.430
james murez: However, you wanted to read approve the ongoing.

1446
02:03:14.430 --> 02:03:15.630
james murez: Contract when However it.

1447
02:03:15.840 --> 02:03:16.500
james murez: was free.

1448
02:03:17.160 --> 02:03:17.490
james murez: OK.

1449
02:03:17.940 --> 02:03:20.910
melissa diner: OK man this neighborhood Council approved the.

1450
02:03:21.510 --> 02:03:24.720
melissa diner: Correct what you know, whatever that's how all the.

1451
02:03:24.750 --> 02:03:26.610
melissa diner: motion should start but.

1452
02:03:27.180 --> 02:03:40.800
melissa diner: I don't know Andre you may want to not have your meeting at 530 that seems like it's cutting it a little close now with three items, you know so maybe you do it at five or whatever so it's not down to the wire, you know.

1453
02:03:40.920 --> 02:03:42.840
Andrea Boccaletti: You said it for 515 for me please.

1454
02:03:44.400 --> 02:03:46.530
james murez: He you want it 515.

1455
02:03:47.040 --> 02:03:49.470
Andrea Boccaletti: In Tuesday, if you send me that link Thank you.

1456
02:03:50.070 --> 02:03:53.700
Ivan: Okay, can you add this into the agenda.

1457
02:03:54.990 --> 02:04:00.630
Ivan: We show you how you know we'll put it in his agenda, but you have to add it onto the board agenda.

1458
02:04:01.080 --> 02:04:03.390
james murez: yeah if you can let's do this.

1459
02:04:04.470 --> 02:04:09.270
james murez: Andreas if you can can submit the agenda request this evening.

1460
02:04:10.140 --> 02:04:12.360
james murez: I wouldn't put it in there, this evening.

1461
02:04:12.570 --> 02:04:13.350
Andrea Boccaletti: I will thank you.

1462
02:04:13.530 --> 02:04:13.950
james murez: Okay.

1463
02:04:14.580 --> 02:04:21.510
james murez: And then, by the time by the time we get ready to put the agenda up, it will already be in there, thank you.

1464
02:04:21.990 --> 02:04:33.360
james murez: Just make sure you do it through the agenda request system one agenda request for each item Melissa is now referring to three, I know that there's one on the agenda already I guess you're going to be submitting to others, or just one other.

1465
02:04:33.720 --> 02:04:34.140
Andrea Boccaletti: One other.

1466
02:04:34.770 --> 02:04:37.500
james murez: Okay, we, but what are we doing about.

1467
02:04:37.830 --> 02:04:40.650
Daffodil Tyminski: Can we TIM, can we adjourn and you guys take this offline.

1468
02:04:40.980 --> 02:04:48.780
james murez: No, because there's one other issue if they're asking us for that kind of an agreement there, what are they asking us from public storage and all of the other service providers.

1469
02:04:48.780 --> 02:04:52.680
Andrea Boccaletti: Nothing nothing they're just asking for the scope of the Web corner.

1470
02:04:53.310 --> 02:05:01.320
james murez: Okay next month it's going to be the next one alright, hopefully not Okay, are we all done anybody else had their hand up on this.

1471
02:05:01.380 --> 02:05:02.430
Daffodil Tyminski: I think we're done.

1472
02:05:02.880 --> 02:05:05.100
Ivan: Now i'm alicia are you still there.

1473
02:05:06.180 --> 02:05:06.570
melissa diner: yeah.

1474
02:05:07.470 --> 02:05:13.470
Ivan: yeah where are we with this new training thing and everybody taking it.

1475
02:05:14.520 --> 02:05:15.300
Daffodil Tyminski: Now.

1476
02:05:16.140 --> 02:05:18.330
melissa diner: I can pull it up online and see I don't.

1477
02:05:18.330 --> 02:05:26.550
Ivan: know, could you do that, because we need to send this thing out to all the board members that have been completed, or they can vote on.

1478
02:05:26.670 --> 02:05:29.460
melissa diner: i'll look at it and see where people are at and remind.

1479
02:05:29.520 --> 02:05:31.410
melissa diner: people to do it before the board meeting.

1480
02:05:32.130 --> 02:05:35.940
james murez: and Melissa while you're doing that could you also remind them that we have a pending.

1481
02:05:37.740 --> 02:05:46.290
james murez: cpr a request and i've only gotten response from one person, and I know that there's a lot of other people that, in the previous meeting spoke about.

1482
02:05:47.040 --> 02:05:56.370
james murez: The rezoning and the rezoning issue, and there were a lot of people that had notes and things that they were reading from and conversations that they had had and we haven't gotten any.

1483
02:05:56.850 --> 02:06:02.910
james murez: Other information, other than from mchale and so all of the other board members that were involved in that issue.

1484
02:06:03.150 --> 02:06:16.350
james murez: They all need to be sending over all of their written documentation and emails and communications and everything else, and I sent that out and i've reminded everybody once they're not doing it and that putting us in a very awkward position with with.

1485
02:06:17.700 --> 02:06:20.400
james murez: The California public records request act.

1486
02:06:20.430 --> 02:06:20.820
yeah.

1487
02:06:22.830 --> 02:06:25.170
Ivan: Right well let's see let's adjourn the meeting.

1488
02:06:25.860 --> 02:06:27.690
Daffodil Tyminski: don't think we need to discuss this on outcome.

1489
02:06:28.290 --> 02:06:29.010
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, when.

1490
02:06:29.940 --> 02:06:32.610
Ivan: I come over we have everybody in the room.

1491
02:06:32.640 --> 02:06:32.970
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh.

1492
02:06:33.330 --> 02:06:35.340
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, well then i'm going to go guys great.

1493
02:06:36.540 --> 02:06:36.780
Daffodil Tyminski: alright.

1494
02:06:36.990 --> 02:06:39.570
Ivan: So the lesson, if you send that out to the.

1495
02:06:41.670 --> 02:06:49.470
Ivan: To the other people that need to comply tell them if they don't have anything to send you a statement saying I don't have any document.

1496
02:06:51.510 --> 02:06:51.870
melissa diner: Okay.

1497
02:06:52.350 --> 02:06:56.460
Ivan: To you know, to have a legal response from them and we're not in trouble.

1498
02:06:57.930 --> 02:07:02.340
james murez: yeah actually go out that you go out to all of the committee people on Lou Pack.

1499
02:07:02.790 --> 02:07:05.190
james murez: And to the entire board of directors.

1500
02:07:06.300 --> 02:07:09.810
melissa diner: i'll talk to you about it offline because I need more info okay.

1501
02:07:10.320 --> 02:07:10.680
james murez: Okay.

1502
02:07:11.280 --> 02:07:12.840
james murez: Okay, good night everybody thank.

1503
02:07:12.840 --> 02:07:14.130
Andrea Boccaletti: You Thank you.