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james murez: hi there.

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james murez: everything's jumping around is still promoting people.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hey guys.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hey.

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james murez: You know what you can help, let me make you a Co host or.

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james murez: Co host.

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james murez: Okay we're just trying to promote all the.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yep let me see if I can help you with that.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'll take care of Clark.

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james murez: yeah i've already tried a few times.

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Daffodil Tyminski: All right, let's klay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: vicki Hello vicki.

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Vicki Halliday: Hello.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hi there.

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james murez: i've tried Clark twice already let's try again.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So Clark I don't know if it's a setting you have or not, but it looks as though zoom is telling me that you're declining becoming a panelist which means you won't be able to speak.

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james murez: we're, no, no.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm.

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james murez: I believe you but i'm just curious where you find it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um it's the message i'm getting back on soon.

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james murez: Oh interesting i'm not getting that miss.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Andrea we're promoting you.

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james murez: virgos quarter Clark.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, great.

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james murez: Jason nope and you bounce back.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah you have to be open to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: being promoted for anyone.

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Alix Gucovsky: You have to accept it when the asked comes in.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: NICO and solid I see your hands or is i'm trying to get you in.

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Andrea Boccaletti: There i'm gonna.

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james murez: Try Clark 10 times.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so that hold on a SEC.

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james murez: just tried so whether.

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james murez: I think she just made it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay NICO we're trying to you again I don't know why it's not working.

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james murez: or even see me go.

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Daffodil Tyminski: My list of.

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james murez: times when we try me up.

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james murez: purchase disappeared, so I guess he made.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay NICO you're coming in.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So Clark.

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Daffodil Tyminski: you're going to get a request to join as a panelist just say yes.

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Daffodil Tyminski: There you are hey.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I see all over.

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Daffodil Tyminski: It there's a James on here.

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james murez: not me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: that's not you okay you don't have a second law you're logged in twice.

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james murez: But i'm wondering why he's here and I feel like because he's such a longtime contributor that.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I just promoted you I am promoting Melissa.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Because who wants to be here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: that's fantastic, thank you, you up trying you again he'll.

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james murez: And Keith is a is a comparison he's our our emergency preparedness.

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james murez: share.

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james murez: right will be promoting him when when it comes time to committee.

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Daffodil Tyminski: folks with your hands raised.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You might just want to lower them until we got to get going.

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james murez: Now just Laurel.

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Vicki Halliday: I know that lapd is here so look for Captain in brick and Adrian.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I see that Thank you vicki I do see them on here guys, I will I will get you in i'm just trying to.

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Vicki Halliday: End Captain hogan maybe okay.

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james murez: Somebody says lapd so I just brought them in.

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james murez: Specific area.

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james murez: vicki do you see the other people.

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Vicki Halliday: Armando hogan is from La fd.

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Vicki Halliday: Captain hogan.

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Vicki Halliday: Give me the chief hogan.

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james murez: good job.

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james murez: Jim rob i'm there's the other James okay Joe.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh okay Jim.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Promoting you.

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james murez: Do you make it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: he's coming in, as James.

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james murez: yeah good.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Friday.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Promoting you.

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james murez: You sure you want to do that.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I know.

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james murez: Where we still missing if you're a board member, you want to raise your hand, so we see you up at the top of the list.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Do we know who bill cheating Kevin Kleiner.

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Daffodil Tyminski: They have their hand raised.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Do we know who knows Johnson, is he has his hand raised.

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Daffodil Tyminski: sounds familiar, but not a board member yeah guys if you're not board members don't raise your hands, just because we're trying to make sure the board gets done so, can start the meeting.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you so much we'll get you back speaking shortly.

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james murez: We have 20 people already.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah we have a quorum, I think, for many missing meineke.

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james murez: so few people were missing, because we have several extra people that are not on the work.

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james murez: If you're a board member, please raise your hand otherwise do not raise your hand.

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Daffodil Tyminski: There Sema.

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Vicki Halliday: yeah I suggest that all board members show up at 10 minutes till seven and everybody get in.

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james murez: You can suggest, I have to start the meeting at 10 but I.

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james murez: know you do.

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james murez: I started it till.

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Vicki Halliday: i'm IRA used to do that and it kind of got everybody in and then at seven.

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james murez: is a good idea, so part part of that part of it is, is that the zoom alarm system only sets off so much before too, but yeah I think it's a good idea, I can set a separate alarm clock.

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Andrea Boccaletti: But we can start now we have a client.

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james murez: Let me see if I can find the agenda.

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Daffodil Tyminski: let's are you okay to keep time as we go to public comment.

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melissadiner: I would prefer not to, in addition to meeting it can, can we assign that to Andrea like that who used to do that or another board member to help.

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Sima Kostovetsky: US i'm happy to help out.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Tonight that's fine.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Never, thank you for that, so I think how we're going to do it is Jim is going to run the meeting i'll operate the speakers so just be patient when you're called on i'll try to deal with any wonder everyone raised their hand.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And then someone can run the clock.

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james murez: And i'm just kidding the agenda up give me one more second and I will share my screen.

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Andrea Boccaletti: In the meantime, public comments 30 seconds correct.

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james murez: No it's one minute.

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Andrea Boccaletti: One minute okay.

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james murez: Okay, the time is 706 i'm going to call this meeting to order.

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james murez: me scroll down to.

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james murez: Here we go roll call.

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james murez: Melissa you want to take roll call, please.

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melissadiner: yeah in a second.

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james murez: You have your hand up did you have a question.

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let's see if we can figure out.

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There we go Thank you.

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melissadiner: gym.

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melissadiner: Here taffeta.

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melissadiner: Here i've a or i'm here a leaks.

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Alix Gucovsky: here.

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Vicki Halliday: vicki here.

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Sema.

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melissadiner: Ali.

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melissadiner: Is Ali here.

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james murez: No she's not she's not gonna make ya.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Allah will not be at the meeting tonight sorry I should have told you that ahead of time.

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melissadiner: vicki Vikki.

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melissadiner: Sierra I.

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melissadiner: see my.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Sorry, I thought you heard me yeah yeah.

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melissadiner: This guy here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: She is well let's be for self okay.

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melissadiner: Mike bravo.

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Daffodil Tyminski: He does not appear to be logged in.

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melissadiner: Those that play.

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melissadiner: So it on.

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melissadiner: Here, James.

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melissadiner: NICO written.

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melissadiner: Clark Brown.

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melissadiner: Here, Robert to the down.

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melissadiner: Here, for now.

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Bruno Hernandez: here.

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melissadiner: DJ here stand.

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james murez: He does not appear to be here.

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melissadiner: All of her.

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melissadiner: Jason sugars.

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melissadiner: Here and Kai.

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soledad ursua: I know guys watching her children so maybe we can come back to her right now or in the bed she's probably.

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james murez: Use walk she is logged in but we don't see her here.

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melissadiner: Okay well we'll just mark her absent and then, when she's here she can just let me know go ahead okay.

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james murez: um let me go back and share the screen okay so um my president's message i'll wait until it number three because this seems as though something got this format in here, and it should be under number three for the president's announcements.

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james murez: let's go ahead with the approval of board minutes, so we have a September, we need to do these individually.

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james murez: We have a September minutes to be approved.

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james murez: Can I get a pokemon for that, please I.

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Andrea Boccaletti: will make the motion.

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Vicki Halliday: i'll second it vicki.

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james murez: So i'm really made the motion spooky second.

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james murez: Any any committee discussion about that.

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melissadiner: Why do we need to hear these separately.

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melissadiner: If they're all posted.

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james murez: Now, because I remember last month i've been saying they needed to be done separately so i'm just respecting what he said last month, we wanted to do them separately last, we want to do them all at once, so.

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james murez: Not not seeing any does anybody have any discussion.

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CJ Cole: about you.

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james murez: tj yeah go ahead i'm sorry.

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CJ Cole: what's the Minutes for 918.

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james murez: Sorry.

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CJ Cole: Is this the Minutes from 918 something wait.

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james murez: Let me go back and share the screen.

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james murez: What does it say there it doesn't say okay.

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CJ Cole: Well Okay, there are.

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james murez: I guess let's let's follow this link here, but I think that's just going to take us to the.

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james murez: The web page and.

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Daffodil Tyminski: In Chi if you're here to state that you're here, so we have it, for the record.

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Daffodil Tyminski: it's 711.

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soledad ursua: He said that she's having problems with her audio so she's trying to figure out what's going on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: gotcha OK, I see are there in your lips moving, I just wanted to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Note it, so we have.

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james murez: Only there's only.

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CJ Cole: One, this is the one 918 okay.

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CJ Cole: Nine 921 21 yeah.

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james murez: yeah okay.

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CJ Cole: Under 20 under is there, supposed to supposedly was an amendment but it doesn't show on the Minutes.

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james murez: Let me open that real quick.

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james murez: Sorry i'm trying to find it here.

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james murez: There we go.

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james murez: posts and abstain, what was the amendment.

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CJ Cole: I know.

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james murez: Here, here it says it was amendment.

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james murez: So you're saying that there was an amendment in here.

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CJ Cole: I don't know, I was, like us, so I wasn't there but there's a vote for the amendment.

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james murez: yeah it doesn't it doesn't show it here, so I guess we'll have to go back and listen to the to the video of this and find out what it was somehow that got left out good catch Thank you see.

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CJ Cole: Is not the only thing i'm under the.

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james murez: On the same one.

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CJ Cole: done the same 1:11am under the neighborhood committee.

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CJ Cole: um.

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CJ Cole: There were 1234 out, you know after meeting agenda.

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CJ Cole: There were more people listed than those that were accepted, and there were also 123.

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CJ Cole: Applicants that that their applications were on the you know.

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CJ Cole: In the.

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CJ Cole: Basically, there were only four people that were listed is being accepted, but there were other people that are apparently on the q&a so that was all whatever screwed up.

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james murez: daffodil do you want to respond to that because I think you probably can explain that better than I can.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I do believe that these Minutes are missing to people.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: let's go.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I would actually suggest with the September Minutes that we go back through them and just postpone this to the next month.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Because I don't believe that these Minutes are correct.

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james murez: All right, we're gonna do that.

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Daffodil Tyminski: For 11 K so let's just it will we have two problems with two issues look.

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CJ Cole: i'll make that motion.

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melissadiner: I will.

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melissadiner: And I will tell you this.

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melissadiner: And all we have to do is insert the vote.

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melissadiner: noted.

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CJ Cole: No, you don't.

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Daffodil Tyminski: let's move on to the next item.

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james murez: yeah well let's let's go we'll come back.

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james murez: On another day and so now we have the.

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james murez: October October.

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Alix Gucovsky: i'll make the motion it's a leaks for approval of the Minutes

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Vicki Halliday: i'll second it vicki.

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james murez: Thank you, do we have any discussion about the October we're in there was there were two October meetings one was a special meeting that will take up second.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And so we do have public comment on this team, we have one hand raised its bill chain and Kevin kline.

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james murez: not sure we're supposed to take public comment on it, but we will now, because unless i've been here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: But we made a motion so.

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james murez: yeah I don't think we do it on well okay i'm not sure, and if he's not here i'm not going to second guess it so let's go ahead and take the two callers.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And you know what they actually lower their hands so i'm going to close out public comment because everyone low with their hands, I think, on this.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Alright, so let's just go back to the board discussion and cj I think is has her hand up to speak.

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CJ Cole: Oh no I don't.

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james murez: know if there's anybody else or can we approve the October minutes as they were presented on the website.

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james murez: Okay, seeing know hands up i'm Melissa you want to take a boat will call boat.

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james murez: Melissa are you there.

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melissadiner: yeah i'm here.

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james murez: Okay, thank you.

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james murez: Jim yes.

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melissadiner: that's it oh.

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melissadiner: Yes, I have oh yeah so weeks.

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Alix Gucovsky: Yes.

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Vicki Halliday: vicki yes.

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Hema.

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ElizabethClay: You to step out for a second.

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ElizabethClay: Elizabeth here, yes.

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melissadiner: hold on.

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melissadiner: Okay, James.

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melissadiner: Yes, NICO.

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Nico Ruderman: Yes.

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melissadiner: Clark found.

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melissadiner: This collaborative it oh.

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melissadiner: Yes or no yes.

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melissadiner: Yes.

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CJ Cole: cj yes.

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Oliver Fries: Oliver yes.

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melissadiner: Jason sugars.

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melissadiner: and tie.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You go, yes, raise your hand.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, she just raised her hand so she's a yes.

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james murez: And she's back, good evening hi.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah she's here, I do think she's having audio trouble, so I will deal with that hand raising work with that hand raising issue, as we go.

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james murez: If you want to speak, and we can talk back to you you're more than welcome to try.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I can sort of see you're looking at me and i'm in in in recognizing the lapd is here and waiting, should we have them go and.

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james murez: Look let's let's let's do this last one, and then, and then, because this is real quick the the special meeting was the the meeting that we we help.

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Alix Gucovsky: me make it's a leak so make the motion to approve the Minutes from a special meeting, thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: i'll second second yeah.

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james murez: Who said, Vikki or Robert.

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Vicki Halliday: Either one.

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james murez: yeah okay great i'll take Robert he's on the top of my loads.

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james murez: Okay, do we have any public comment.

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james murez: It says there is a raised.

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Daffodil Tyminski: There is one raise hand and it is for probably go puppet but why don't we see go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: 713 yeah.

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Please just stay on topic.

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1561****713: hi this is Ruth.

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1561****713: I am a ruthless angeleno and I just wanted to know if this special meeting was the transportation and parking meeting or if it was the 8am one that didn't happen, thank you.

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james murez: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, it was neither of those were thanks for the comment.

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james murez: comment is closed and and.

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james murez: Now does anybody on the the.

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james murez: Word have anything to say about this before we take a boat.

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james murez: Seeing no hands.

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james murez: Melissa you want to take a roll call vote, please.

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melissadiner: jam.

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melissadiner: yeah yes daffodil.

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melissadiner: Yes, I will yes leaks.

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melissadiner: Yes, vicki.

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ElizabethClay: Yes.

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melissadiner: pull it out.

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melissadiner: Yes, James or.

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melissadiner: NICO.

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Nico Ruderman: Yes.

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clark brown: Clark yes.

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robertthibodeau: Robert yes.

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melissadiner: or no.

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melissadiner: Yes, cj.

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melissadiner: Yes, all of her.

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melissadiner: Yes, Jason.

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melissadiner: Yes, hi.

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Daffodil Tyminski: By raise your hand if you vote yes, and she raised her hand.

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melissadiner: And is see my back yet.

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james murez: See, Mr you they're.

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ElizabethClay: not bad.

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james murez: That concludes Item number two the approval of board prior report minutes now let's jump down to item five a and turn the microphone and the screen over to where we turn it over to vicki.

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james murez: Who goes first.

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Vicki Halliday: lapd and then keep poking.

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james murez: Okay, and who is here from La P, are all of them promoted.

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Vicki Halliday: Together they're together it's.

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Vicki Halliday: Captain in brick and Adrian a custom.

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james murez: Okay, well, I see you guys on the screen here go ahead, whenever you're ready you.

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melissadiner: Have a time frame.

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melissadiner: That they want to stick within.

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james murez: But oh yeah we if you guys can keep it to 1520 minutes that's fine if you have that much you want to go if you only want to go 10 minutes that's Okay, too.

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james murez: Perfect whatever you feel like.

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LAPD Pacific Area: Good evening everybody Adrian acosta senior officer for basic car 813 this is Captain emmerich he's going to touch on.

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LAPD Pacific Area: more specific issues i'm going to give you a general overview of crime that's been going on us first number is for both my basic car and for.

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LAPD Pacific Area: officer monique contrarians basic cart right now she is experiencing a 16.4% increase in Part one crimes murder, part one crimes are a combination of.

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LAPD Pacific Area: violent crimes and property crimes 16.4% increase is still a big number, however, I think before the summertime that number was somewhere in the in the neighborhood of 50% so she's obviously doing some great work.

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LAPD Pacific Area: down to the beach my number is 28.7% increase in Part one crimes that's generally mostly fueled by really bad start in grand theft auto to the.

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LAPD Pacific Area: end the year and then a consistent issue with aggravated assaults and majority of those aggravated assaults happen along the Lincoln corridor.

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LAPD Pacific Area: And a little bit closer to the beach and the fourth and rose third and rose area.

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LAPD Pacific Area: 28.7 again it's too high, of a number, but if I think the last time I visited with you guys in the spring, that number was in the 60% range so again we're doing everything we can to get that number.

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LAPD Pacific Area: Down low more specifically what's been going on at the beach and around the bridge home site, we had our.

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LAPD Pacific Area: Crime analysis detail pull some numbers today and incredibly we're seeing along ocean front walk since the start of.

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LAPD Pacific Area: Or, more focused enforcement of 47 47% decrease in Part one crimes, we say that again a 47% decrease in Part one crimes along the ocean front walk since focus enforcement began.

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LAPD Pacific Area: In the bridge home area, the mission area, a decrease of 23% in Part one crimes and overall all Pacific since that time, a decrease of 11% a majority of.

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LAPD Pacific Area: This can be attributed to some overtime details where officers were given specific missions and, in some cases, specific suspects to look for.

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LAPD Pacific Area: And officers that are working these details are being productive being proactive and staying on task in the areas that they're.

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LAPD Pacific Area: they've been assigned so that's that's pretty exciting news, let me throw on that again okay so before Adrian moves forward from there, so a lot of this is us not only to the.

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LAPD Pacific Area: Closure of Venice beach or reopening of Venice beach.

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LAPD Pacific Area: but also because of those overtime detail so chief more realized that divisions across city are understaffed so they freed up over time, which enabled us to hire officers to come in for fire suppression.

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LAPD Pacific Area: So on a weekly basis we bring we've been bringing in a detail one supervisor plus four officers to conduct foot beats on ocean front lock, hopefully, I know some of you have noticed them.

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LAPD Pacific Area: And they've they've considerably pushed on crime so i'm happy to announce that we've also got a new commitment from sanitation today to return to overnight park closure enforcement details.

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LAPD Pacific Area: In which we will be conducting enforcement on the beach, and they will be able to remove.

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LAPD Pacific Area: On attended personal property and return the beach back to where it was on August 2 when they kept Mr Holmes closed so that's that's a big change for us.

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LAPD Pacific Area: And we are going to return the conditions back to where they were a couple months ago we noticed some increased thanks later yeah absolutely so every week on Tuesdays we have a.

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LAPD Pacific Area: What we call crime control and we analyze the crime from the previous week and then we we strategize for the for the week coming there were three topics.

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LAPD Pacific Area: That we discussed today, two of which i'll go over and specifically bicycles Captain empirical go over we've had a rash of.

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LAPD Pacific Area: garage deaths and burglaries over the last few weeks, one of the things that we can attribute maybe to the warm weather, people are getting their equipment out being outside but.

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LAPD Pacific Area: One of the one of the factors in some of these burglaries where people are leaving ladders out either on the side of their house or in an open garage.

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LAPD Pacific Area: Those ladders with them being used to get in the House to burglarize so another factor was in a few of these burglaries neighbors noticed.

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LAPD Pacific Area: That the garages were open for several hours and never said anything disfigured it was the it was okay so we're encouraging.

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LAPD Pacific Area: All our neighborhoods and all our neighbors and our block captain's to remind neighbors to be vigilant to know your neighbors scheduled to know that on a Saturday afternoon it's not necessarily.

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LAPD Pacific Area: A usual occurrence, to have a garage open all day, because these are crimes that can definitely be prevented through a partnership and that's.

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LAPD Pacific Area: Our partners our part is to let everybody know this is going on and then we're asking for the neighbors to help as we go into the.

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LAPD Pacific Area: The holiday season, the problem with package that always comes up so again the senior leaders we're reaching out to their blog captains and stakeholders in the neighborhoods.

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LAPD Pacific Area: reminding people, the importance of watching out for packages bringing them in when they can, and if you can use a satellite location to.

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LAPD Pacific Area: receive your package Amazon lockers at local could be in stores, maybe have the package delivered to your office, you know that might be a little more secure than sitting out.

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LAPD Pacific Area: On your porch for hours at a time that again is a really soft target so that's something we're going to be getting out to everybody kept me going to talk specifically about bicycles.

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LAPD Pacific Area: hey good evening members of the Board and the viewing public anyway so last time I met with all of the members of the board, we talked about specifically about electronic bicycles, so it kind of.

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LAPD Pacific Area: During my curiosity and I want to do a little more detailed analysis of the bike problem in.

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LAPD Pacific Area: in Los Angeles, and specifically Pacific area, because I believe that we are the division across the city with the highest number of stolen bicycles.

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LAPD Pacific Area: and specifically in Venice area, so let me give you a couple facts so like in up year to date, we have 557 bicycles stolen year to date, which represents the 11% increase, so I look back a couple years and it appears that since.

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LAPD Pacific Area: Since 2017 the number of bicycles being stolen in Pacific area has steadily increased by 10%.

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LAPD Pacific Area: So, if you look at how are the bikes being stolen about 72% are being stolen efficient of except.

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LAPD Pacific Area: That means somebody leaned against the restaurant hey I went in to use the restroom came back out my bike was missing or I left it in my yard deathless theft.

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LAPD Pacific Area: The other 28% of the bicycles, are being stolen in a burglary so that means that it's been stored in the subterranean garage storage shed or in your House and some of these breaking in taking the bike.

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LAPD Pacific Area: So that's the profile bicycles, the other interesting thing is that one third of all bicycle stolen in Pacific area, and this is from Venice, all the way down to El Segundo.

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LAPD Pacific Area: are taken from within the small footprint, that is, the Venice Community so biggest merging threads trend, as far as stolen bicycles, is the electronic bicycle so out of the 557 bicycles, we had stolen.

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LAPD Pacific Area: This year, so far 111 of them are electronic bicycles.

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LAPD Pacific Area: So it's the biggest emerging trend in 2018 we had 02 thousand 19 we I can't remember what the number was but it's a 66% increase year to year, compared to last year, so electronic bicycles, if you own one you've got to secure it The other thing that we're looking at is.

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LAPD Pacific Area: How do we solve this the problem i've sent officers out because we see these encampments all over the place in which they have 20 bicycles lined up or 20 bicycle frames and components for hundreds of bicycles.

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LAPD Pacific Area: And we very rarely get success, the problem is, is that nobody reports there's a lot of people do not report their serial numbers, so I had my staff detectives go through all of their stolen Bytes of reports.

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LAPD Pacific Area: And people share their serial numbers with us on only 28% of the reports.

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LAPD Pacific Area: So for the other 72 there is no chance of getting your bike back because very common people will report to my giant.

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LAPD Pacific Area: Mountain bicycle it's blue in color was stolen Can you help me get it back it was if we do love to the color doesn't matter because it's already probably being dismantled in an encampment.

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LAPD Pacific Area: And spray paint in a different color we have a better chance of getting back to you if you get share some certain number with us.

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LAPD Pacific Area: And even better if you put that register that stolen bike invite index.org every Los Angeles police officer has an application on their telephone in which they can enter a serial number and check if it's a reported stolen So if you could share that with with everybody.

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LAPD Pacific Area: Unlike a so it hurts us in two ways, because, as I said, the bike is either taking an a theft or a burglary so we recorded part one crime for that.

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LAPD Pacific Area: For electronic bicycles, they also constantly grand theft auto which represents about 9% of all of the grand theft auto is recorded in Pacific area.

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LAPD Pacific Area: So we get hit twice every single time a bicycle electronic bicycle stolen, and like I told you it's the fastest growing segment of grand theft auto it's the fastest growing segment.

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LAPD Pacific Area: Of bicycle thefts, so I wanted to share some tips with you guys and get them out to your your public what i'm sharing my officers.

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LAPD Pacific Area: Given had talked to the watch commander today given them specific directions.

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LAPD Pacific Area: So please do not be offended if officer stop you if your bicycle is riding around and nighttime and not compliant with our LM see ordinances or vehicle code sections.

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LAPD Pacific Area: One sign that I was looking at as for a healthy division is if I drive around at nighttime and every single person, whether they are homeless or house.

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LAPD Pacific Area: complies and has lights on their bicycle because officers should be stopping those folks people who ride around blacked out with a backpack.

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LAPD Pacific Area: In my mind are typically burglars or people who steal from cars.

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LAPD Pacific Area: So officers will stop restart making those stops have instructed officers to stop everyone who's riding around with a ghostwriter.

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LAPD Pacific Area: that's when they're riding around the bicycle and they have another one, with no rider until bicycle may be stolen can stop them conduct investigation.

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LAPD Pacific Area: So, since some things i'm going to share with you guys that hopefully you guys can share with your your users is that if you got a bicycle number one.

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LAPD Pacific Area: record the certain number take pictures of the bicycle story, because if it does get stolen, you have all of that information, we can get into bike index, we can get out some stolen reports.

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LAPD Pacific Area: Much better chance of getting the bicycle back for you, he got an expensive bike that has expensive components put unique identifying marks on the components, because more likely that we can link it to being stolen from you can get it back to you.

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LAPD Pacific Area: The other thing is, if your bike is stolen go to bike index.org put it in there doesn't cost anything but it will allow the officers to connect it to your stolen report lock your bike in with a high quality bicycle lock.

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LAPD Pacific Area: The other thing is subterranean keeping it a subterranean garage does not count as safe storage, because all it takes is somebody to wait for one of your neighbors to open up the open up the garage door they follow them in.

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LAPD Pacific Area: grab the bicycle lock doesn't matter either they'll cut the lock and take your bicycle.

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LAPD Pacific Area: So if you could share those facts, the speakers I shared share that with your neighbors I think I think we can get a lot of.

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LAPD Pacific Area: Reduction in those crimes, and if you have a high end bicycle go to the bookstore they also sell these GPS trackers that go into the handlebars.

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LAPD Pacific Area: And we have recovered bikes that way in which people say hey i'm tracking my bike right now we can call a police unit, and it can make the stock.

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LAPD Pacific Area: But that's only happened on a couple occasions So hopefully that's helpful and we can answer any questions if the board feels like they want to do so now.

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james murez: So on presentations, thank you for giving us the opportunity to to ask questions but i'm presentations we don't like to take questions and and so we're gonna let you off the hook tonight, I think.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Jim.

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Jim.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh well.

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james murez: What what we would like to do is.

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james murez: Is have questions submitted in advance in writing.

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Daffodil Tyminski: No, I understand, but there was something particularly pertinent to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Their presentation.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

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james murez: yeah we don't want to get into a back and forth with questions.

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LAPD Pacific Area: So how about this than.

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LAPD Pacific Area: an email address is probably in the notes, but i'll give it to you.

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LAPD Pacific Area: it's 37285 at lapd.

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LAPD Pacific Area: Online and send me an email and.

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james murez: Three, let me just repeat that, to make sure I got right 37285 at lapd online.

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LAPD Pacific Area: dot online.

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james murez: Online okay yeah just.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Very quickly.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Back in the day lapd used to have a program where they would serialized the numbers down at the.

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Daffodil Tyminski: beach substation.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Because most people I don't think I have a serial number on their bike, but it does lapd still do that.

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LAPD Pacific Area: We have it, because most manufacturers have standardized So if you look at the bottom of your bicycle, you will find a unique serial number on that on that bicycle.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay alright well we'll follow up separately and put out some guidance on that, but I think.

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LAPD Pacific Area: That would be helpful, you know, one of the one of the things that we are trying to do is.

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LAPD Pacific Area: increase our social media footprint you actually just gave me a great idea, maybe that's something we could do is walk people through exactly how to register their bike on like index.com.

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james murez: If you'd like help organizing that i'm sure outreach committee would be more than happy to put together some kind of event at the Pier they're down around the the Windward area or something i'm sure that's that's more than possible let's let's take this.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks guys.

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Vicki Halliday: We have.

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james murez: The fire department still yet to go.

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LAPD Pacific Area: You.

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james murez: Where did he go there, he is.

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james murez: guys Thank you go ahead, I don't I don't know, are you a command what what do they call the.

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james murez: Mr hogan here.

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james murez: Excuse me.

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Armando Hogan: My rank is deputy chief Sir, but as long as you don't call me late for dinner or mungo's just fine.

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james murez: There you go Okay, thank you, Armando.

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Armando Hogan: yeah good evening all once again Armando hogan hey so the dad I see over there, I is that yeah dress over there, all those folks great folks from Venice so glad to be here, thank you very much.

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Armando Hogan: A couple things that I just want to share with you is very recently we had our pH which stands for persons experiencing homelessness.

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Armando Hogan: project that we were had there on the boardwalk.

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Armando Hogan: So while we were on the boardwalk one of the things that we wanted to do because you this wonderful group challenge to me way back in the day, asking what can.

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Armando Hogan: la fd do about the homeless challenges that we face, so one of the things that we wanted to do is see how we can be supportive and assistive with all of the other.

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Armando Hogan: goals that the city had regarding homelessness So what we had was our fast response vehicle they're up and down the boardwalk they were there for.

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Armando Hogan: 10 hours a day, four days a week, and then there were some days on Friday, in particular, where we had them for overtime and what we saw there, not only at the boardwalk would like third and rose.

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Armando Hogan: On the backside of sunset and some of those other locations, we had in a 90 day pilot program we had during the time that our folks were patrolling only three fires total so now at night.

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Armando Hogan: Basically, we were we had a few more fires there, and so what we ended up doing based on that program was coming up with a different way that we collected our data so before you would find us talking about a rubbish fire a.

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Armando Hogan: garbage fire or something along those lines, and they could be in near an encampment or across the street from an encampment or close to.

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Armando Hogan: So what we ended up doing with a lot of those rubbish fires that we saw in garbage fires, they just became encampment fires.

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Armando Hogan: So it gives us a spike in those numbers, but it also gives us a way of saying okay if we're seeing that spike how are we going about and addressing it.

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Armando Hogan: So the pH program was one of those ways so we've seen the success of it my only challenges and our for bureau configuration, I only have one fast response vehicle that's what Fr V stands for in my bureau.

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Armando Hogan: So i'm rotating that through the different neighborhood Council districts and through the Council districts themselves.

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Armando Hogan: So, right now, the one that was there with you all for 90 days has moved to Hollywood, but they will be rotating and coming back to those areas and really my goal is to put them in the area where I have.

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Armando Hogan: The highest density of homelessness you all have that advantage because of that beautiful beach that's what everybody's going to are attracted in that area.

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Armando Hogan: And so i'm looking to see what I can do to get more resources there and it's almost like our fire departments doing our version of a patrol.

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Armando Hogan: we're not there to try to catch people doing something wrong we're really there to educate them on the dangers of fires, what we can do better, and then also to be able to give better data.

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Armando Hogan: To our city leaders, so that they have an idea of what we're facing on a regular basis.

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Armando Hogan: The biggest thing we were able to do was gather data on a daily basis, where they could put information in their handheld devices and that information would range from.

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Armando Hogan: The ability to say who they spoke with or who they were working with meaning they may not have the name of the individual, but we can say at a person had walked in don't walk we had a conversation about lighting outdoor fires.

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Armando Hogan: One of the things that I had to step back from and reassess was the fact that I had my folks putting out every fire.

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Armando Hogan: That was there in Venice if it was you know, an illegal burning put the fire out one of the challenges I faced was now they took that very same appliance and move that inside the tent.

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Armando Hogan: Where a lot of you would see the tents burning and so forth, you saw what happened on the boardwalk.

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Armando Hogan: So, because of those situations we wanted to reassess So what we did with our frb folks was we know people have to eat, we know they're going to cook.

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Armando Hogan: So what we wanted to do was try to get him to do it safely and then have my fire department resources standing by.

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Armando Hogan: Now we didn't want to create a project that would not be sustainable right my i'm not going to have my firefighters out there, watching people cook all day.

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Armando Hogan: But what we wanted to do was say okay if somebody cooking I know I get upset if i'm getting ready to eat that's taken away from me.

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Armando Hogan: Because the unintended consequences of that were individuals were now possibly going out angry.

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Armando Hogan: upset and then creating some type of crime or some pH on pH issue which was now involving our lapd folks so in order to make sure.

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Armando Hogan: That we could come up with a better way we wanted to try to be a little bit more patient a little bit more understanding.

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Armando Hogan: and see if we can get our folks there and then try to look at the surrounding communities to determine hey, how do we get people fit could we get them a hot plate of food.

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Armando Hogan: Can we do this during certain times of the day, so that's still some of the things we're looking at and then i'll be able to talk about best practices later on.

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Armando Hogan: Just to give you an idea, based on that i've got data that goes, all the way through August 1 of 2021 because after August 2021 is when we really started changing.

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Armando Hogan: How we are pretty much tracking these fires, so the next time I see you all i'll have data from Sep tember on to whatever that current date that I get to have the honor of speaking with you so.

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Armando Hogan: Because of that, we had a spike of about 67% and so that number right now and, of course, things are changing, we probably see more warming fires now and cooking fires, based on the weather changing.

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Armando Hogan: But we still have my regular resources that out and making sure that we take a more what I want to say a more professional approach.

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Armando Hogan: In terms of trying to do, education and trying to make sure people understand why we're telling them they can't do it versus just saying they can't do something.

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Armando Hogan: So the other thing that I looked at wondering, to get an idea of the types of fires that you guys were having in the area.

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Armando Hogan: And the numbers associated with that, and this is in the district of fire station 63 the fire station that's right there off of venison shell.

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Armando Hogan: And for structure fires up until this point we had about 63 responses and that could even include just a small fire that we were able to handle.

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Armando Hogan: Very quickly, but 63 total of rubbish fires or what we now consider encampment fires, we had 204.

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Armando Hogan: During that span and then we also had 21 auto fires, we had four tree fires and then fire outs meeting when we arrived on scene someone called there was a fire, they were able to put it out or the fire was out by the time we got there and we just needed to take.

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Armando Hogan: An opportunity, just to make sure that it was out and then lastly illegal burning.

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Armando Hogan: So now we are almost combining illegal burnings with the rubbish fires, which gives us the encampment because an illegal burning could be you know folks just aren't allowed to have open flame devices right there on the street.

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Armando Hogan: So what we're trying to do, or what i'm going to do, excuse me, is to continue to gather this data, look at what resources what's the right fit.

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Armando Hogan: For that particular so I can make sure we're best addressing that and then that way I can give you guys an updated report in terms of what's happening.

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Armando Hogan: The only other thing i'd like to share with you all is, if you go to La md.org and you go to fire prevention.

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Armando Hogan: And just click that drop down box follow the prompts and you can report if you have an encampment or, if you have some place that's close.

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Armando Hogan: I feel somewhat good about the fact that you know the project you're on rose near I believe that's been more park.

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Armando Hogan: We were able to make some changes there, we were able to make some headway.

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Armando Hogan: There any areas off of rose third and so forth down in that area there by gold's gym so i'm still looking at how I can capitalize on that and how I can get hopefully more resources in the near future.

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Armando Hogan: So if you go to La ft.org and you go to what's happening and then click on that you can get our alerts, so if there's fires in your area if there's things of that nature, you all, can do your own version of tracking.

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Armando Hogan: Also on that forward facing document, if you go to fire Stat you can click on that fire Stat you can put in the area, meaning your the fire station district 63.

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Armando Hogan: Then you can put your address, if you so choose because it'll show you what fire station is servicing your area.

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Armando Hogan: And it'll give you our response time how fast we're getting out of quarters, the number of runs talk about Ms 90 Ms and so forth, just to give you a better idea of what your fire department is doing.

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Armando Hogan: And then, lastly, I not only do I just want to say thank you, but also want to remind you about your level of preparedness.

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Armando Hogan: You know, we just had the class change have we looked at our smoke detectors have we changed our batteries in our flashlights.

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Armando Hogan: Do we have fresh water there that we want to use as part of our preparedness kit want you to start thinking about those things, what about medication for those of us who have loved ones and what are we doing for our pets and other animals that we may have in the Venice Community so.

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Armando Hogan: I appreciated James that you won't allow them to ask me any questions tonight so i'm going to duck out through the side door with a CAP ambridge and those folks.

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Armando Hogan: But I do appreciate it, I appreciate the opportunity vicki Thank you so much for reaching out to me so we'd love to have a slot.

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Armando Hogan: Here, with the neighborhood Council so that hopefully we can give you the information you need vicki has my information, so if you have any questions or anything you want to answer please feel free to share that with her, and I will get back to you with the best answer I can find.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you we'll see you and we appreciate the other video, thank you very much.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

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Armando Hogan: guys very much.

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yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks guys.

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Armando Hogan: Have a great evening, please be safe.

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Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: you're muted Jim.

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Nico Ruderman: Jim you're muted we can't hear you.

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james murez: Oh i'm Armando if you're still there, and you can hear me I think i'll be maybe already left.

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Vicki Halliday: he's gone.

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james murez: Well Keith will tell us about the emergency preparedness.

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james murez: Okay let's go back to the meeting.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And Jim just to jump in for a SEC, going back to the meeting I think lapd we probably guys aren't going to need to have you here longer if we can ask you a question, so I just want to let you off the hook.

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james murez: yeah well Okay, so we had what they were between the two of them that the agenda said 20 minutes and that's about we spend it whatever they need will more than happy to if they have stuff to report, we want to hear it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You know i'm saying, for their benefit, so they can all go about their days.

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james murez: Oh, did they not leave.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I can't see them if they did, they must have just signed off because okay all right great go ahead, Jim thanks.

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james murez: So Presidents report, let me quickly give a Presidents report, first of all, Senator Ben Allen has asked if he could come and speak to us, and I said yes.

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james murez: We will be taking questions for the the Senator.

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james murez: The board meeting will be on the 21st of December, which means that add calm will be meeting on the 13th and the deadline for add calm will be on the 10th.

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james murez: That would be the last day that anybody that wanted to submit a question for Senator Ben Alan would need to get the question into.

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james murez: The Secretary myself and or the Vice President, so if you send it to President Vice President or Secretary at Venice nc.org we will get your question and we'll compile them and and.

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james murez: we'll probably have them on for 15 maybe 20 minutes he's a busy man and and have that time we'll we'll figure out as we go, depending on how many questions we get how much time will be taken for questions.

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james murez: I also wanted to mention that that every year for the last many years at least last 10 years the dnc has done a toy drive we're going to be doing the toy drive again.

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james murez: The Toy drive box will be available at the Venice farmers market on Fridays anybody that wants to bring a toy, it needs to be a brand new Toy or one that's very near new.

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james murez: And, and the toy drive itself is being run by lapd boosters and they will be handing out the toys to kids that are in need, and this is something we've done for many years next next next next month we will also be talking about.

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james murez: A Community grant for them, they need some funding to do something that goes along with the toy drive and all the other neighborhood Councils in the area have done it.

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james murez: And we'll be taking that up at the Budget Committee in December and that'll come back to the board next month in time for their toy drive as well.

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james murez: last thing I wanted to mention wanted to make a big shout out to the outreach committee in particular vicki and Sema who put in a lot of effort and and.

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james murez: organized the first ever party at the Pier for Halloween and hopefully this will become an annual event that everybody will participate in.

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james murez: There weren't a lot of board members there, but it was a new thing and a lot of people already had plans on Halloween night but we really want to activate.

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james murez: That area of our Community I don't know how many of you go down to the Washington boulevard area.

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james murez: But that is one area of our Community our business community that really needs to have all the support we can give it and and by utilizing the Pier for Community events.

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james murez: reckon parks, has been very helpful in that area and and we want to start putting in effort to to revitalizing that as much as we can, and the amazing party that they pulled together last minute with with zero Budget, by the way.

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james murez: They got everything donated from from other people, and it was a collaboration with reckon parks, it was really wonderful.

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james murez: Having said all of that.

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james murez: Let me.

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james murez: continue on now with the agenda, do we have any ex parte.

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james murez: Communications conflicts of interest, anything that anybody had.

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james murez: Oh, I should actually mention one other thing I saw everybody well no nevermind I was any ex parte communication let's just keep going.

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it's.

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james murez: A leaks go ahead.

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Alix Gucovsky: it's a leaks on everything live tech related i've spoken with the applicants and with loop ex spouse.

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james murez: Thank you, I think committee chairs talking to people about committee business is does not need to be considered unless it's somehow a conflict of interest or you just in general, but thank you anybody else.

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robertthibodeau: I need to sit out on nine C and nine F, this is Robert.

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james murez: Okay, thank you, Robert.

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james murez: Any other items that anybody has that.

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james murez: They need to step out of you can speak now or later if you wish.

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james murez: that's easier now better now.

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james murez: Okay let's go back to the agenda.

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james murez: And let's continue to move along Okay, so we did public safety lapd report and now we're going to do government reports by be the emcee announcements and reports so do we have anybody here from Council and let's see anybody that's listed in this list here.

552
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james murez: If you could raise your hand i'm going to.

553
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james murez: look and see or or definitely you can help.

554
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james murez: That people who have raised their hand in reference to one of these speakers.

555
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Daffodil Tyminski: We have.

556
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Daffodil Tyminski: Only goat puppet raise.

557
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Daffodil Tyminski: His her his hand and Isabel to va.

558
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Alix Gucovsky: OK.

559
00:55:08.550 --> 00:55:10.710
Alix Gucovsky: I see Freddie death.

560
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1561****713: i'm sure.

561
00:55:13.080 --> 00:55:25.140
1561****713: i'm unmuted know puppet puppet i'm a different person and puppet code, I guess, I just don't really okay so whoever's talking your hand was not raised.

562
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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm gonna mute you, it was.

563
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1561****713: Go ahead and rate, looking at the zoo i'm telling you right now, your hand is not raised.

564
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Daffodil Tyminski: I I don't know what to tell you.

565
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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead raise your hand the two hands, that I see raises attendees are good puppet kenosha which I applaud the creativity there and Isabel to va.

566
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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah after we take public comment, we can then have board comment and i'm Freddie you are for purposes of the meeting grouped in with board comment because we elevated you to a panelist.

567
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james murez: So the committee's let let let's just because we don't see any other.

568
00:56:05.820 --> 00:56:08.070
james murez: elected government representatives here.

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james murez: i'm.

570
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Daffodil Tyminski: Late So is there even anything to comment on is I don't have actually a single one of the representatives.

571
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james murez: So let's go down let's go down to if they show up, we can get back to it let's go down and to our committees and let's start with.

572
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Daffodil Tyminski: My suggestion here, Jim is that we allow the reports to be read syriana them, then we can have some public comment on the reports, and then we can have some board discussion, if there is any if we need to.

573
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james murez: Well okay freddie's here and he's listed so let's look pretty speak freddie's you said he's on is a.

574
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Daffodil Tyminski: phrase on as a panelist but he does not have his hand raised.

575
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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): just put my hand down.

576
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james murez: daffodil let me see if I can configure out how to do this okay go ahead ready.

577
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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): um so i'm just gonna keep it very short.

578
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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): irie emailed the whole the whole board most the entire report.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): So I recommend that you look at it, the only thing I want to highlight is that Tuesday November 30 at 6:30pm is the course to module three which will cover drafting agendas Community impact statements and the legislative process, I provided a link to register for bylaw amendments again.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): i've hyperlinked the application to submit before April 1 and the bylaws template.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): To see what changes can be made in accordance with applicable administrative codes bunk policies and other rules, regulations it's a 39 page PDF.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): For your review or for the the committee's review and the Board and the digital media policy is coming to a close, the one thing I do want to.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Give like a news to that just happened less than 10 minutes ago, is that there were three grievances filed against the board and a dis determination letter has been sent to the grievance and it's also in the grievance portal for public review.

584
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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): For grievance number 341343 and 344.

585
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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): So I will do a follow up email with the grievance portal, so you can access each of those letters.

586
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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): That but it's it's part of the grievance portal as well, also on our website.

587
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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): So, other than that, if you have any questions.

588
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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Please let me know and i'll be more than happy to answer them.

589
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james murez: ready, let me ask you a question about the grievances, do we need.

590
00:58:47.700 --> 00:58:52.050
james murez: Is there any action that the board needs to take at this time, or just something that I need to take on at this time.

591
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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): No i'm actually the letters for the grievances.

592
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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Is that for grievance number three for one.

593
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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): It was not certified.

594
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Okay.

595
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james murez: You don't need you don't need to go through this I was just curious if there's any action that we needed to take right away.

596
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james murez: If no one's.

597
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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): In the no no there's no action by the board since.

598
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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): All three have been not certified.

599
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james murez: Okay, thank you very much.

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james murez: Now let's move on to rack.

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james murez: I attended Rack, it was a very short meeting and and there are some new rack motions that I will be sending out to the committee chairs in the next couple of days, it was last night and and we're moving right along we're making good progress and rack next month.

602
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james murez: Who is the speaker oh guests Cone.

603
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james murez: The.

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james murez: district attorney see district attorney yeah he's going to be speaking at the Rack meeting next month, and anybody is welcome to.

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james murez: Listen in you won't get a chance to speak but but you're more than welcome to listen to what he has to say and the questions to him are being submitted to rack in advance and.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And Jim how does one do that I feel like this is a person for whom there will be lots of questions.

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james murez: So one would assume and I haven't tried going to the Rack website, the West la regional alliance website, which is available on the web.

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james murez: and looking at next month meeting and I believe that there is a secretary I don't know if it's Chris from the palisades.

609
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james murez: But I do know that there is somebody that will be fielding questions.

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james murez: It might be matt, who is the person that's the President of that and runs those meetings so i'm not sure, but but i'm sure that it, you know if you somebody send them an email they'll be happy to respond they're real good about responding to people about anything.

611
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james murez: That i've been show up did anybody raise your hand but this do I see i've been anywhere, I guess, he hasn't made it okay um.

612
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Daffodil Tyminski: Budget Ivan appears to be here.

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james murez: He is here, did you say was here.

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Ah.

615
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Daffodil Tyminski: I just promoted Ivan the panelists.

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james murez: Ivan did you have anything to say about like.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hold on i'm not sure that he's in yet okay.

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james murez: Well, we can come back to him Andre do you have anything about the budget budget advocates is anything happened with that at all.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Excuse me, the budget advocates.

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Andrea Boccaletti: yeah what is that this.

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james murez: Is Hugh here.

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james murez: If we ever promote you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: He was here, and he is a panelist um.

624
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james murez: Why don't you tell us about budget advocates if you're here, you might as well, have a good time and talk to us about what is the budget advocates role.

625
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hugh harrison: Can you hear me.

626
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yeah.

627
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hugh harrison: Good uh yeah the budget advocates, our group.

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hugh harrison: The city is divided into 11 regions each region on budget day elects.

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hugh harrison: And they keep changing it sometimes it's too sometimes it's three representatives for the region.

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hugh harrison: or they then spend an absolutely incredible amount of time trying to bring count neighborhood Council perspectives to the budget process actually meet with many of the departments and department heads.

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hugh harrison: fairly high level people with mayor's office I think they actually have one meeting with the Mayor and they produce, suggestions and their final output is like 6070 page White Paper putting forth their position on various budget items um.

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hugh harrison: it's a lot of work, nobody from venice's ever decided, I never had the time to do it because I had a job.

633
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hugh harrison: we've not had a representative as a budget advocate i'm.

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hugh harrison: But that's what the budget is do they put out a week not shoot me a monthly newsletter.

635
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hugh harrison: At.

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hugh harrison: i'm sorry i'm my brain will call up the website I memory, but um if you put in budget advocates in Google Li budget advocates that will give you the website, you can read their monthly.

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hugh harrison: update.

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james murez: All right.

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hugh harrison: Thank you, then the budget city budget comes out in the spring and they actually are fairly active and helping of.

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hugh harrison: structures of budget.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Right, thank you.

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james murez: Thank you for those of you that don't know Q is.

643
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james murez: Our sure for what 15 years.

644
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james murez: Well 12 years.

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hugh harrison: long enough Louis county.

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james murez: All right, thank you very much we'll come back to you in a minute I know I know why you're here um I see Ivan has now been promoted Ivan did you have anything from like you wanted to fill in.

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james murez: No Okay, thank you.

648
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james murez: outreach Sema did you have anything you wanted to.

649
01:04:12.510 --> 01:04:18.360
james murez: comment on anything happening that we should know about that special that isn't on the agenda.

650
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james murez: seem, are you there.

651
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Okay we'll come back to you Isabel.

652
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james murez: Have we promoted is about can we get Isabel promoted.

653
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james murez: While we're promoting Isabel my.

654
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Sima Kostovetsky: audio hi can you hear me now.

655
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james murez: Sorry hear you.

656
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Sima Kostovetsky: Oh, thank you, I couldn't get my audio.

657
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Sima Kostovetsky: Thank you, everybody, welcome to November, and thank you for the support gym for Halloween pair event.

658
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Sima Kostovetsky: It was a tremendous Community event, I just have to let you know from everybody that got involved from the volunteers.

659
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Sima Kostovetsky: Especially REX and parks, but really, really want to thank my Committee and especially vicki and Brian and Nick Anthony cello.

660
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Sima Kostovetsky: And Christopher it and Angela oh my gosh so it's really the women of the outreach committee that that made this possible, but thank you to everyone, thank you for your support and look what we can do when we pulled together.

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Andrea Boccaletti: diva please take a few businesses that were instrumental in making.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Sure man, so thank you, Andrea so October October Dennis cannot say enough about our business they really, really supported us they had a crew out there, thank you can music box for the live music, thank you for DJ some for for the DJ piece of it, then, is pop roxy hotel Erwin.

663
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Sima Kostovetsky: Has that toys and Marcus with a electric light parade what a way to bring us into the last hour, especially with Paolo can fold riding on the bike so tremendous Community event the whole Washington where business.

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Andrea Boccaletti: yeah somebody.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Mr Washington that was perfect timing square anyway, and it was just fashion, my leaving anybody out music box, I sent out a thank you to the whole community in an e blast So hopefully you guys stop that.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Secondly, he DNA is having their meeting this Thursday on the 18th starting at 730 their special guest is Eric bruin, who is a director of transportation for CD 11 and he's going to be talking about micro.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Mobility, and specifically the mobility electric pilot program so please join either DNA i'm happy to post their zoom link on our website that that went out in our e blast as well.

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Sima Kostovetsky: And last but not least, I want to quickly introduce a town hall, that we will be working on with the resiliency committee for our target date is mid February and resiliency does such tremendous work for our Community, we have to give props to see Paris and.

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james murez: see my.

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james murez: Excuse me see.

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Sima Kostovetsky: That.

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james murez: he's going to report yeah.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I just I want to give props to them, so thank you so much, everyone looking forward to the holidays and see you at the Venice sign lighting and.

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Sima Kostovetsky: i'll be there, collecting toys this Friday at the farmers market, so please, please, please, this is such a worthwhile project, and this is specific to Venice so calm donate bring new Toys unwrapped Thank you.

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james murez: Okay, thank you Isabel have you been promoted or.

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Isabelle Duvivier: or she yes, thank you, Jim can you hear me.

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james murez: yeah Thank you.

678
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Isabelle Duvivier: So today and Noel Johnson is going to be reporting for Venice arbor group can you promote her.

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Isabelle Duvivier: she's yes my and a few times.

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james murez: Oh we're while we're working.

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Daffodil Tyminski: On doing that right now is valid staff adele.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Thank you daffodil.

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james murez: A leak, do you want to give a loop back report, I think we forgot the list you, as a committee, here, but you said.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay believe Noel is.

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Daffodil Tyminski: ready to go, though, but go ahead.

686
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james murez: Go ahead either one of you.

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Alix Gucovsky: Next time, Jim.

688
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james murez: Was that was that a league.

689
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Daffodil Tyminski: That was leaked.

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Noel Johnston: Well, can you hear me.

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james murez: Yes, we can hear you go ahead and well.

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Noel Johnston: Okay, great um I imagine that you know the streets la is conducting a.

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Noel Johnston: street tree inventory and that they've been doing it CD by CD and it is now our turn.

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Noel Johnston: CD 11 is now being inventoried by streets la and we think this is exciting and we think you'll think it's exciting because we're going to learn a lot more about our trees.

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Noel Johnston: And how we compare it to the other districts in Los Angeles, and how our trees are doing in general um if you're interested in that you can.

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Noel Johnston: Go to the streets la and type in street tree inventory and they'll tell you just exactly how many trees and what kind of trees are aware, but we're next in line.

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Noel Johnston: And another front of our sister organization, the vj Verdun Venice group is getting trees planted all over Venice.

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Noel Johnston: Right now they're focusing on indiana and they are planning and maintaining trees there, and this weekend Saturday the 20th at about nine o'clock in the morning.

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Noel Johnston: They are doing their last agro Perm removal on Venice boulevard and if you're feeling energetic and in a good mood come on out and join all of us who are joining them.

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Noel Johnston: And last of all, I want to remind you that it's been a dry late fall and the trees are suffering because we're not getting our usual amount of rain and we hope that you will consider going out and watering your yard and.

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Noel Johnston: parkway trace and that's pretty much it for this month, thank you.

702
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james murez: Okay, thank you um now did we miss any committees, because we want to make sure everybody feels included.

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James Robb: You miss you miss my committee oceanfront walk to.

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james murez: Any broadwalk you're right and it's not listed there we got to fix our list there's there's loop Pack and ocean front walk that are both missing.

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Keith Harrison: yeah and.

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resilience.

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Keith Harrison: yeah resiliency is waiting to.

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james murez: that's right keep I haven't forgotten, I was you know what okay go ahead, Jim let's do ocean for a walk in the door let's keep going.

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robertthibodeau: All right, well transportation bro.

710
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james murez: yeah okay I just said chart trans parking transportation.

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James Robb: Right my turn to speak.

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James Robb: yeah so ocean.

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01:11:21.780 --> 01:11:33.090
James Robb: ocean for a walk we conducted a meeting last week we had a course we had Eric brewing on as well to discuss the pilot program with the vintage neighborhood Council.

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James Robb: I hope more people would have got on but we ran about 20 minutes late on that, but we had the police department talk about the the scooters that are being rented on the boardwalk we also have district 11 that was talking about a new motion that they're passing through.

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James Robb: The city City Council to make it so that the scooters that are being rendered on the boardwalk need to be rented 500 feet from the boardwalk so doing some stuff.

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James Robb: With the electric scooter devices just want to let everybody know that we had a really good meeting once we got started also.

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James Robb: We, we have a couple of things that we're working on with the Venice Pier and the Venice peer project that we'd like to be included in some of these talks that the.

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James Robb: outreach is possibly doing since, as part of the boardwalk down there as well, so we got a lot of great meetings it'd be good for some some of the vintage neighborhood Council to get on and maybe here what we got going and that's my report, thank you.

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james murez: Thank you, Jim Robert did you have a quick report.

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robertthibodeau: We had a good.

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robertthibodeau: We participated in the ocean from walk meeting on the scooters and I thought that went really well and.

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robertthibodeau: You know.

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robertthibodeau: We had our own meeting I don't have that much else really to add we've got a.

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robertthibodeau: emotion coming up later today.

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james murez: Okay, thank you i'm Keith with our emergency preparedness group.

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james murez: You got the floor go ahead.

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Keith Harrison: Thank you very much, first could arnica Campbell and Christina.

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Keith Harrison: Rodriguez greenberg please raise your hands and could you have them elevated to panelists because they have the bulk of the report i'm just going to handle the intro.

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james murez: work.

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Keith Harrison: Now Okay, in the meantime, for purposes of time i'll just launch in that the Community resiliency committee has been very busy this last year, in spite of the challenges of conducting a program.

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Keith Harrison: During Kovac 19 we held in cooperation with the Los Angeles county to the Los Angeles city fire CERT neighborhood team program six online training programs, ranging from first aid to disaster kit to map your neighborhood to search and rescue all sorts of different subjects.

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Keith Harrison: And we engaged in a hands on radio training and just recently a participated in a pop up exercise with the.

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01:14:24.480 --> 01:14:36.030
Keith Harrison: neighborhood training program and search volunteers were at penn moorpark we simulated putting up a staging area and dispatching teams to do damage assessment throughout.

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Keith Harrison: Parts of East Venice, we are now moving to the next phase where we really need the support from the elected community leaders like the board.

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01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:59.040
Keith Harrison: To help us move into a Community preparedness level of both planning and training and participation.

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Keith Harrison: we're really talking about Community survival, when we talk about Community resilience because it's not just having enough water for you and your family and maybe taking care of your next door neighbor it starts there.

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01:15:12.210 --> 01:15:24.990
Keith Harrison: That it has to involve the entire Community, working together, otherwise the fates of those communities we've seen in Katrina we've seen in the town of paradise, where are they years later.

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01:15:25.470 --> 01:15:36.960
Keith Harrison: The people, the the street signs are there, but the people are not so we're moving toward that next phase, just as things are opening up and I would.

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01:15:38.190 --> 01:15:51.390
Keith Harrison: Like to turn it over to our leads on this project arnica Campbell and Christina Rodriguez greenberg to give you some more information to how you how we're looking to you for your support, thank you.

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Anneke Campbell: So i'm Monica and thank you for having us speak.

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01:15:58.470 --> 01:16:02.040
Anneke Campbell: And thank you, Jim for showing up at our pop up drill.

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Anneke Campbell: It really is it feels supportive to have the to have had you come and we invite all of you, when we do these practice drills.

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01:16:15.300 --> 01:16:18.840
Anneke Campbell: which are very local and are all about getting to know your neighbors.

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01:16:19.740 --> 01:16:29.490
Anneke Campbell: To create a more resilient community, because in the end it's our neighbors we're going to count on because the fire and the police will not be able to come right away so.

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01:16:30.270 --> 01:16:40.560
Anneke Campbell: getting to know your neighborhood mapping your neighborhood, which is one of the programs that that we are participating in and next year we're going to do a whole bunch more programs.

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01:16:40.890 --> 01:16:50.700
Anneke Campbell: We just hope that you on the committee will recommend to the people you know and join us in being more prepared and getting to know each other better.

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01:16:52.560 --> 01:16:56.490
Anneke Campbell: And we're going to have a Christina you're going to talk about the town hall yes.

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Cristina Rodriguez-Greenberg: hey yeah so i'm Christina Rodriguez greenberg i've been a part of the resiliency committee almost since its beginning.

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01:17:04.770 --> 01:17:12.150
Cristina Rodriguez-Greenberg: And as you've heard you know we've had a lot of success with raising awareness on preparedness matters so we definitely want to keep the ball rolling.

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Cristina Rodriguez-Greenberg: You know everyone here has obviously felt the earthquakes and we're probably in a flood zone, so you know with those kind of things in mind we're looking to have a town hall, no later than mid February.

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01:17:24.240 --> 01:17:36.150
Cristina Rodriguez-Greenberg: And we're seeing this as our kickoff event for the resiliency committee, we feel that it's going to be, you know, a really great opportunity to literally build community in a very low stress environment.

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01:17:36.570 --> 01:17:39.600
Cristina Rodriguez-Greenberg: With a common goal of being ready, you know just like.

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01:17:40.410 --> 01:17:54.240
Cristina Rodriguez-Greenberg: officer hogan or the Mr hogan from the fire department was saying, you know both as individuals and as neighbors so you know when disaster strikes we're ready, because the first people that we're going to be counting on is our neighbors.

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01:17:54.900 --> 01:18:00.630
Cristina Rodriguez-Greenberg: And so we think that it's a great time to meet them now and have fun learning, you know how to stay safe.

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01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:12.330
Cristina Rodriguez-Greenberg: and employee disaster care and know how for those in need, if and when disaster strikes, so the town hall, which are naming building a resilient Venice I least us a working title right now.

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01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:18.180
Cristina Rodriguez-Greenberg: is to give the nation's a chance to ask their emergency preparedness questions to the pros.

757
01:18:18.810 --> 01:18:26.520
Cristina Rodriguez-Greenberg: I can bet most of us have questions about you know go bags or where to go after declared emergency or even about a tsunami scenario.

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01:18:26.850 --> 01:18:35.610
Cristina Rodriguez-Greenberg: And so you know right now it's great because we have a new West bureau preparedness chief through the emergency management department of the city of La.

759
01:18:36.690 --> 01:18:46.260
Cristina Rodriguez-Greenberg: Who is specifically assigned to the Venice neighborhood area to engage with our neighborhood who's already said that she'd be more than happy to attend our town hall.

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01:18:47.040 --> 01:18:54.210
Cristina Rodriguez-Greenberg: There would also be an opportunity to sign up and become involved with the neighborhood neighborhood team program folks.

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01:18:54.750 --> 01:19:04.590
Cristina Rodriguez-Greenberg: Which are people that we've been working with throughout the pandemic and we put on, I think it was six events online that we've recorded that we also have available for the Community.

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01:19:05.610 --> 01:19:08.340
Cristina Rodriguez-Greenberg: Of course, that have to do with emergency preparedness.

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01:19:09.990 --> 01:19:11.490
Cristina Rodriguez-Greenberg: Let me see what else.

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james murez: Oh, let me just interrupt you, we have a big agenda tonight I think what we'll do at this point is say thank you to you guys, it was awesome on Saturday being there was great having the fire department there.

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01:19:25.980 --> 01:19:33.360
james murez: let's work on the town hall with outreach and we'll look forward to seeing you on future meetings.

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01:19:34.080 --> 01:19:37.410
james murez: Thank you, thank you for you all of you for your participation.

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01:19:37.800 --> 01:19:38.490
Anneke Campbell: Thank you.

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01:19:39.090 --> 01:19:39.570
Okay.

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01:19:40.770 --> 01:19:42.600
james murez: let's get back to our agenda now.

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01:19:43.950 --> 01:19:48.510
james murez: That was all of our committees budget Andre you're up.

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01:19:49.530 --> 01:20:07.620
Sima Kostovetsky: Wait, if I may um I just need to forgive me please i'm so sorry I forgot to mention one last thing I just want to acknowledge dia de Los muertos that occurred on the 31st as well, and that was all run by our very own Bruno Hernandez so his.

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Sima Kostovetsky: amazing organization Venice art walls, they did a tremendous tremendous job, so I just wanted to acknowledge them forgive my tardiness and doing that.

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james murez: yeah I want to apologize for not having you on there as a committee Bruno do you want to say anything.

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01:20:26.340 --> 01:20:29.700
Bruno Hernandez: Thank you see you know we appreciate that that's it okay.

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01:20:29.730 --> 01:20:30.390
james murez: Thank you Brenda.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay um.

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01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:38.040
Andrea Boccaletti: So budget and Finance Committee report.

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01:20:39.090 --> 01:20:40.050
Andrea Boccaletti: This is on today.

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01:20:42.270 --> 01:20:56.160
Andrea Boccaletti: I guess the first item is the monthly expenditure report for the month of Sep tember 2021 Oh, thank you, Jim I was going to share my screen well it'd be easier if I.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay it's fine.

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01:20:58.200 --> 01:20:59.970
james murez: You want to share your screen said go ahead.

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01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:02.880
Andrea Boccaletti: Let me know because I won't be able to scroll this years someone good.

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01:21:02.940 --> 01:21:05.220
james murez: move your snow right okay.

784
01:21:05.640 --> 01:21:06.600
So.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay.

786
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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, so um.

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01:21:17.130 --> 01:21:18.480
Andrea Boccaletti: We spent a.

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01:21:20.130 --> 01:21:23.820
Andrea Boccaletti: whopping amount of $572 and 20 cents.

789
01:21:25.020 --> 01:21:38.130
Andrea Boccaletti: In the month of September and the major expenses again were monthly storage expense $306 and 20 cents, we had $71 from the outreach committee for Facebook ads.

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01:21:39.150 --> 01:21:43.350
Andrea Boccaletti: Facebook ads to the Community, there you have what they were for.

791
01:21:45.810 --> 01:21:55.350
Andrea Boccaletti: And then we had constant contact which we were still playing catch up with some bills that were back from when we had a hold up with a credit card, so you have.

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01:21:56.490 --> 01:22:01.560
Andrea Boccaletti: July is expense August and september's expense, there are $65 each.

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01:22:02.670 --> 01:22:03.240
Andrea Boccaletti: So.

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Andrea Boccaletti: that's that would anybody, like to make a motion to so our net available now is 330 $9,866 and 98 cents as of the end of September.

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01:22:19.170 --> 01:22:19.530
Andrea Boccaletti: it's.

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01:22:20.370 --> 01:22:22.140
james murez: Like would you like to make the motion on right.

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01:22:23.340 --> 01:22:24.360
Andrea Boccaletti: Now I can make the motion.

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james murez: yeah you can i'm the chair of this committee.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, so I make the motion to approve the monthly expenditure report for September.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And it's daffodil it's 18 and I will second the motion.

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01:22:39.330 --> 01:22:39.840
james murez: Thank you.

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01:22:42.030 --> 01:22:45.300
james murez: um let's take public comment, do we have.

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01:22:47.250 --> 01:22:49.680
james murez: let's see screen.

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01:22:50.910 --> 01:22:52.410
james murez: Stop sharing.

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01:22:53.700 --> 01:22:59.970
Daffodil Tyminski: We have three we have three hands raised for public comment I they've been raised for a while, through the non public comment.

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01:23:00.750 --> 01:23:05.400
james murez: yeah I just want to remind everybody need to stay on topic we're talking about the monthly expenditure report.

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01:23:06.900 --> 01:23:09.630
james murez: um you want to go ahead and start calling them.

808
01:23:09.930 --> 01:23:11.700
Daffodil Tyminski: or sure i'm good puppet.

809
01:23:11.730 --> 01:23:15.180
Daffodil Tyminski: you're listed first why don't you go ahead and give your comment.

810
01:23:15.750 --> 01:23:16.860
melissadiner: Please take time.

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01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:18.150
Goat puppet Kenosha: it's going.

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01:23:22.170 --> 01:23:23.460
Goat puppet Kenosha: To Linux guilty bird.

813
01:23:26.490 --> 01:23:30.870
Goat puppet Kenosha: storage space, how can I can go go storage space.

814
01:23:32.070 --> 01:23:34.740
Goat puppet Kenosha: And they have offers of your first month.

815
01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:38.910
Goat puppet Kenosha: I would save some money.

816
01:23:42.150 --> 01:23:44.550
Goat puppet Kenosha: would suggest your budget girls.

817
01:23:47.100 --> 01:23:50.280
Goat puppet Kenosha: So you get that one month free you could.

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01:23:51.210 --> 01:23:56.010
Daffodil Tyminski: Go public I appreciate the comments, but it's not about the murder, then we need to move on.

819
01:23:57.030 --> 01:23:58.080
Daffodil Tyminski: Can you say about the Mer.

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01:23:59.430 --> 01:24:17.100
Goat puppet Kenosha: Excuse me Satan I thought that that was on the agenda, he just spoke on did he speak about it see Alex gives me a minute and a half and lets me speak daffodil doesn't see the difference between retain the balls.

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01:24:18.150 --> 01:24:19.890
Goat puppet Kenosha: We have a look at.

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01:24:20.280 --> 01:24:22.080
Andrea Boccaletti: This time, this time, thank you.

823
01:24:23.850 --> 01:24:24.240
Goat puppet Kenosha: man.

824
01:24:25.740 --> 01:24:34.050
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you good puppet and we have someone logged in last phone number is 713 go ahead and make your comment.

825
01:24:40.080 --> 01:24:51.960
1561****713: hi this is Ruth i'm unsheltered and doing you know, I just wanted to suggest to use the available budget for outreach expenses to make some bike light.

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01:24:52.470 --> 01:25:03.930
1561****713: to distribute to people that don't have bike lanes, so that they don't get targeted for enforcement by the lapd who seemed very intent on making riding a bike at night, a crime.

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01:25:04.740 --> 01:25:17.100
1561****713: it's ridiculous and please allow public comment on items that are on the agenda and if you don't stay on the agenda that you're not taking public comment, then you're technically breaking the law which no law enforcement officer should allow Thank you.

828
01:25:18.150 --> 01:25:18.450
1561****713: Thank you.

829
01:25:18.480 --> 01:25:19.020
Daffodil Tyminski: sure.

830
01:25:19.110 --> 01:25:19.920
james murez: My truth.

831
01:25:20.100 --> 01:25:21.990
james murez: Thank you, public comment is closed.

832
01:25:23.280 --> 01:25:31.200
Daffodil Tyminski: Right so let's go to the board NICO your hand is raised Is there anyone else on the board that wants to comment on any of these items.

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01:25:33.450 --> 01:25:36.090
Daffodil Tyminski: nikko i'm asking you to unmute so you can.

834
01:25:38.070 --> 01:25:48.930
Nico Ruderman: Sure, my my my hand was still raised Actually, I just want to comment i'm within 500 feet juiced up, but I would like to comment on that last comment or I think that's a great idea.

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01:25:49.980 --> 01:25:52.710
Nico Ruderman: You know I think everybody in their community should have bike lights.

836
01:25:54.060 --> 01:25:57.720
Nico Ruderman: and especially on house I think that's a good good thing to look at.

837
01:26:00.420 --> 01:26:02.160
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay awesome Thank you so much.

838
01:26:02.700 --> 01:26:03.120
1561****713: Any other.

839
01:26:05.430 --> 01:26:05.940
Daffodil Tyminski: um.

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01:26:07.410 --> 01:26:07.740
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

841
01:26:08.010 --> 01:26:09.600
james murez: Seeing know their hands up so.

842
01:26:09.720 --> 01:26:12.060
james murez: Can we take a boat, please.

843
01:26:14.100 --> 01:26:14.580
melissadiner: Jim.

844
01:26:15.510 --> 01:26:16.830
melissadiner: Yes, half ago.

845
01:26:17.280 --> 01:26:17.850
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

846
01:26:17.970 --> 01:26:21.360
melissadiner: I bought, yes, the leaks, yes vicki yes.

847
01:26:22.650 --> 01:26:23.160
ElizabethClay: Yes.

848
01:26:24.210 --> 01:26:25.650
melissadiner: Yes, James job.

849
01:26:26.130 --> 01:26:27.330
melissadiner: Yes, need go.

850
01:26:29.790 --> 01:26:30.150
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

851
01:26:30.690 --> 01:26:32.100
clark brown: Clark yes.

852
01:26:33.390 --> 01:26:33.840
robertthibodeau: Yes.

853
01:26:33.990 --> 01:26:34.530
melissadiner: or no.

854
01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:35.490
Yes.

855
01:26:36.600 --> 01:26:37.020
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

856
01:26:37.380 --> 01:26:37.950
cj.

857
01:26:42.510 --> 01:26:43.200
melissadiner: cj.

858
01:26:43.560 --> 01:26:45.030
melissadiner: Yes, Oliver.

859
01:26:49.110 --> 01:26:49.620
melissadiner: Oliver.

860
01:26:49.890 --> 01:26:51.540
melissadiner: Yes, Jason.

861
01:26:54.480 --> 01:26:55.020
melissadiner: Jason.

862
01:26:55.050 --> 01:26:56.640
melissadiner: Yes, hi.

863
01:26:57.120 --> 01:26:58.590
melissadiner: Yes, Saima.

864
01:27:02.430 --> 01:27:02.760
melissadiner: amen.

865
01:27:07.380 --> 01:27:09.510
melissadiner: 18 00 next.

866
01:27:10.140 --> 01:27:11.490
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, great you.

867
01:27:11.700 --> 01:27:14.640
james murez: Know okay let's go on to.

868
01:27:16.380 --> 01:27:20.340
james murez: outreach committee funding request, let me share the screen.

869
01:27:21.030 --> 01:27:21.810
Andrea Boccaletti: I can read that.

870
01:27:22.530 --> 01:27:26.970
james murez: Well, we need to get it up on the screen, so why don't I go ahead and do that great Thank you.

871
01:27:29.550 --> 01:27:30.030
Go.

872
01:27:38.940 --> 01:27:42.360
james murez: Okay, you want to read read the motion make motion yep.

873
01:27:43.770 --> 01:27:46.350
Andrea Boccaletti: So the outreach Committee requests funding.

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01:27:47.670 --> 01:28:02.790
Andrea Boccaletti: The following funds for the holidays sign lighting and December 4 2021 1500 dollars for photography services and photo booth services by Venice proper artsy with Venice neighborhood Council branded photos.

875
01:28:04.500 --> 01:28:11.640
Andrea Boccaletti: Number to send a North Pole sign $65 which may be donated anyhow.

876
01:28:13.170 --> 01:28:13.380
Andrea Boccaletti: But.

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01:28:13.770 --> 01:28:14.820
james murez: This way can you.

878
01:28:15.210 --> 01:28:16.710
james murez: Can you just stick to the motion.

879
01:28:16.830 --> 01:28:18.360
Andrea Boccaletti: yeah like improv.

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01:28:18.660 --> 01:28:21.750
Andrea Boccaletti: pencils number three sent the Chair rental hundred dollars.

881
01:28:23.700 --> 01:28:24.600
Andrea Boccaletti: and

882
01:28:26.520 --> 01:28:29.730
Andrea Boccaletti: that's it, so the budget and Finance Committee.

883
01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:35.100
Andrea Boccaletti: voted on this in favor of this 500.

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01:28:35.670 --> 01:28:38.400
james murez: Thank you um can do at the second on the motion.

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01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:40.050
Nico Ruderman: This NICO second.

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01:28:40.710 --> 01:28:41.430
james murez: Thank you NICO.

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01:28:43.440 --> 01:28:44.610
james murez: comments.

888
01:28:45.930 --> 01:28:46.920
james murez: Or the comments.

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01:28:47.100 --> 01:28:50.580
Daffodil Tyminski: We have 123 public comments Jim.

890
01:28:51.420 --> 01:28:52.020
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

891
01:28:52.260 --> 01:28:53.700
Daffodil Tyminski: want me to call them as someone.

892
01:28:54.840 --> 01:28:55.530
Daffodil Tyminski: Can you time them.

893
01:28:55.650 --> 01:28:58.590
Andrea Boccaletti: Longer we can even on this, maybe 30 seconds on these or is it a minute.

894
01:28:59.520 --> 01:29:00.720
james murez: A minute on these, but if you.

895
01:29:00.960 --> 01:29:11.550
james murez: use a regular digital watch it be easier to see it, the second one very small, I mean it's cute but it's not working and let's let's cut off public comment after Isabel.

896
01:29:11.910 --> 01:29:17.670
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so Isabel as the last person we have Margaret Helen Lisa Noel and Isabel.

897
01:29:18.270 --> 01:29:19.950
hugh harrison: Then we're kind of oh.

898
01:29:20.010 --> 01:29:21.150
hugh harrison: My hand was up hold on.

899
01:29:21.780 --> 01:29:23.250
james murez: Oh huge hand is up.

900
01:29:23.640 --> 01:29:27.030
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay sorry, here we actually were treating you as part of the panel.

901
01:29:28.230 --> 01:29:32.370
Daffodil Tyminski: And then we have Erika after Erica we're cutting it off, you will will will get to you.

902
01:29:32.370 --> 01:29:33.870
hugh harrison: With us i'm fine it's.

903
01:29:34.650 --> 01:29:36.150
hugh harrison: Okay, not a board member, I didn't want to.

904
01:29:36.870 --> 01:29:45.330
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh well, apparently now we've got good puppet and it appears Ruth so that's, it is a 25 public comment is closed.

905
01:29:46.650 --> 01:29:53.160
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm taking everyone in the water they're appearing on the zoom there's no discretion here on my part Ruth why don't you go first.

906
01:30:00.210 --> 01:30:00.570
1561****713: hi.

907
01:30:01.830 --> 01:30:05.970
1561****713: Thank you i'm glad you like the idea that the violates I think it's a lot cheaper.

908
01:30:06.390 --> 01:30:19.710
1561****713: than having tickets and enforcement, I know if you guys know but 50% of citations that the lapd issues are sent to collections and then they're taking out of people's tax refunds if they're ever lucky, you have.

909
01:30:20.160 --> 01:30:26.880
1561****713: To get a job and get a tax refund they'll they'll never see the money until their citations are paid off, so I just wanted to let people know that Thank you.

910
01:30:27.720 --> 01:30:32.880
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks a lot for us, we appreciate that um Margaret go ahead.

911
01:30:35.940 --> 01:30:39.300
Margaret Molloy: yeah so the last year, there was a little bit of an issue that m.

912
01:30:40.410 --> 01:30:41.850
Margaret Molloy: PNC funded.

913
01:30:43.110 --> 01:30:50.070
Margaret Molloy: and its proper artsy to shoot theoretically a dnc promotion for the event the sidelining event.

914
01:30:51.630 --> 01:31:00.360
Margaret Molloy: But there's a huge overlap between the dnc and the Venice chamber and they use the backdrop, but as Popper it used a backdrop, which is a.

915
01:31:00.900 --> 01:31:12.690
Margaret Molloy: Development proposal of the Chamber it's not an it appeared as an endorsement by the dnc it was really a conflict of interest, some people want a pedestrian Plaza on.

916
01:31:13.950 --> 01:31:23.220
Margaret Molloy: Woodward avenue, many of us do not, and that was the backdrop and it was an inadvertent advertisement conflict of interest to promote that particular.

917
01:31:23.730 --> 01:31:36.960
Margaret Molloy: image on all the dnc branded photographs that were made available to the public, so please avoid that kind of really tacky conflict of interest like we could do better, thank you, thank you.

918
01:31:37.320 --> 01:31:38.220
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Margaret.

919
01:31:38.250 --> 01:31:43.680
Daffodil Tyminski: kill yeah i'm Helen why don't you go ahead.

920
01:31:46.680 --> 01:31:54.720
Helen Fallon: I just want to point out that this motion isn't complete because you have holiday items holiday things for this van assign lining in.

921
01:31:55.200 --> 01:32:02.790
Helen Fallon: following motion so if you're going to have a motion that refers to the best side lighting, we ought to have a complete motion not.

922
01:32:03.420 --> 01:32:11.370
Helen Fallon: pieces of it in another motion and then i'd also like I think there should be clarification on what the branding on the photo booth is going to be since.

923
01:32:11.790 --> 01:32:19.320
Helen Fallon: Clearly, it sounds like there's been some issues in the past and I don't think we need to be subsidizing the Venice chamber, this is supposed to be a table event.

924
01:32:19.650 --> 01:32:28.590
Helen Fallon: I don't understand why we're spending this much money for an outreach table or that sounds surely there are far better things to spend the money on Thank you.

925
01:32:31.710 --> 01:32:33.420
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um.

926
01:32:35.250 --> 01:32:35.790
Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa.

927
01:32:36.930 --> 01:32:38.700
Daffodil Tyminski: he's very good to see you go ahead and talk.

928
01:32:39.330 --> 01:32:47.430
Lisa Redmond: Yes, good to see you too daffodil Thank you um i'm going to kind of have to agree with some of the previous callers I think I don't want to be a grinch.

929
01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:56.070
Lisa Redmond: You know, share have your party buy some cookies give some stickers out but 1500 dollars for a photo booth a branded photo booth.

930
01:32:56.400 --> 01:33:02.460
Lisa Redmond: seems awfully extreme so basically you're hiring 1500 dollars to have your own little personal party.

931
01:33:02.850 --> 01:33:12.540
Lisa Redmond: photo booth that's going to be for just be and see people what what gets done with these photos you know we all have photos we can take pictures, if you need photos for record great but.

932
01:33:12.930 --> 01:33:23.940
Lisa Redmond: 1500 dollars can go very far in the Community by new trees by bike lights, I can think of a million other things better than you know pictures for one night, thank you.

933
01:33:25.440 --> 01:33:26.100
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Lisa.

934
01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:28.080
Daffodil Tyminski: Speak to Lisa.

935
01:33:29.130 --> 01:33:30.780
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, no well.

936
01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:33.360
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

937
01:33:36.420 --> 01:33:36.720
Noel Johnston: me.

938
01:33:37.350 --> 01:33:41.400
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I know well, are you intending to talk on the item about the side lighting.

939
01:33:42.390 --> 01:33:46.470
Noel Johnston: I just want to say that I think that the Community energies.

940
01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:56.340
Noel Johnston: be a chamber of commerce, or our own vm see all need to pull together, and I think this sign lighting thing has been a wonderful thing for the Community in the past.

941
01:33:56.670 --> 01:34:10.110
Noel Johnston: I firmly support it i'd love to get 1500 dollars for planting trees, but I think 1500 dollars for Venice party that comes once a year, and we have nothing like it.

942
01:34:11.160 --> 01:34:12.690
Noel Johnston: is a worthwhile expense.

943
01:34:14.610 --> 01:34:15.540
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks a lot, no.

944
01:34:16.680 --> 01:34:17.700
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Isabelle.

945
01:34:18.720 --> 01:34:19.350
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

946
01:34:22.170 --> 01:34:35.280
Isabelle Duvivier: hi I fully support this motion, I think, after the two years that we've just been through, it would be great to have an event that takes place by the beach where we all come together as a community and celebrate Thank you.

947
01:34:36.600 --> 01:34:37.770
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh thanks so much as well.

948
01:34:41.370 --> 01:34:45.630
Daffodil Tyminski: 561 area code ending in 713 go ahead.

949
01:34:49.980 --> 01:34:57.600
Daffodil Tyminski: 713 are you there.

950
01:35:00.480 --> 01:35:06.390
1561****713: I already kind of David, if I have another second i'd like to suggest fire extinguishers as another outreach item, thank you.

951
01:35:06.930 --> 01:35:07.590
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

952
01:35:09.120 --> 01:35:13.920
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, good puppet I mean last but certainly not least bring it on.

953
01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:16.200
Daffodil Tyminski: Our last public comment.

954
01:35:17.460 --> 01:35:34.560
Goat puppet Kenosha: Was that was just a bump to put up a screenshot of conan but no jeans always catching ship a little about the tree it's a month away, I support that yeah that's good, yes, you humans need interaction, amongst others.

955
01:35:34.740 --> 01:35:37.590
Daffodil Tyminski: fans half ago puppet or else we're gonna meet you oh go ahead.

956
01:35:39.030 --> 01:35:58.320
Goat puppet Kenosha: You know dumper those been a little angry tonight we're gonna have to put her in Google and see why but we support it because that's what we need, we need interaction it's been two years since you've been able to go out on the beach and get drunk without tense all over the place, yes.

957
01:35:59.430 --> 01:35:59.880
Goat puppet Kenosha: so good.

958
01:36:01.230 --> 01:36:13.830
Goat puppet Kenosha: For this at $1,000 for purchases a pre liquor from a woman Pam 3am for this particular party Rico born and will be the theme.

959
01:36:14.220 --> 01:36:18.270
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you go, we need to cut you off, but we will pick that up.

960
01:36:19.500 --> 01:36:21.210
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so we're closing public comment.

961
01:36:21.240 --> 01:36:21.690
james murez: Was.

962
01:36:22.320 --> 01:36:25.110
james murez: Well, no we're not just a moment daffodil.

963
01:36:26.160 --> 01:36:27.450
Daffodil Tyminski: not closing public comment.

964
01:36:27.630 --> 01:36:30.000
james murez: No we're we're meeting goes puppet.

965
01:36:31.620 --> 01:36:33.570
james murez: And Hugh Harrison gets just still speak.

966
01:36:33.600 --> 01:36:37.170
Daffodil Tyminski: No, but so we had previously promoted to a panelist.

967
01:36:37.260 --> 01:36:37.860
Andrea Boccaletti: So.

968
01:36:38.220 --> 01:36:39.780
Andrea Boccaletti: I know public comment right now.

969
01:36:40.170 --> 01:36:40.620
james murez: yeah.

970
01:36:40.800 --> 01:36:42.420
Daffodil Tyminski: he's part of the public eye.

971
01:36:43.620 --> 01:36:49.470
Alix Gucovsky: I understand gym or Daf sorry, this is a leak scope puppet seems to be a panelist still just.

972
01:36:49.470 --> 01:36:49.800
james murez: Always.

973
01:36:50.160 --> 01:36:51.870
Daffodil Tyminski: No he's not he's not.

974
01:36:51.900 --> 01:36:54.270
Daffodil Tyminski: In Vincent court because this city.

975
01:36:56.160 --> 01:37:11.820
hugh harrison: Okay, you go ahead yeah I just want to say that I advocate treasure in 2008 and we've had a holiday event ever since I since I was involved, except obviously during covert and.

976
01:37:13.170 --> 01:37:23.160
hugh harrison: The last several years has been in conjunction with the Venice sign line lighting and it's I think one of the few times we've really had a good opportunity to interact community.

977
01:37:23.640 --> 01:37:33.510
hugh harrison: I understand the concerns about the expense, with the Popper razzi, but I think that it actually was a Center point of the event, two years ago and.

978
01:37:34.530 --> 01:37:38.340
hugh harrison: I fully support this, and thank you for your support as well.

979
01:37:39.930 --> 01:37:48.840
james murez: Thank you, I put your hand down for you OK now i'm going to close public comment and let's move on to committee comment.

980
01:37:50.970 --> 01:38:03.090
james murez: Before we get there, however, let me just ask Sema one quick question a couple people brought up the point Maybe you can just quickly answer it do we know what the backdrop is going to be for Santa Claus.

981
01:38:03.660 --> 01:38:11.910
Sima Kostovetsky: yeah I actually have pictures to show you from the last event, so it has nothing to do with the Venice Chamber it's all about us.

982
01:38:12.300 --> 01:38:14.430
Sima Kostovetsky: Okay, if I can share my.

983
01:38:14.580 --> 01:38:16.170
Sima Kostovetsky: You can share your screen and then.

984
01:38:16.230 --> 01:38:22.650
james murez: And then let's let's go to the other committee members, as you just show us that one screen.

985
01:38:23.160 --> 01:38:24.300
Sima Kostovetsky: Are you guys able to see this.

986
01:38:24.660 --> 01:38:26.010
james murez: yeah Thank you that's pretty.

987
01:38:26.310 --> 01:38:28.080
Sima Kostovetsky: Good and Santa Ivan.

988
01:38:28.260 --> 01:38:35.550
Sima Kostovetsky: Right and there's the kids and look at, I just want to tell you that there's at least four or five people that are managing this booth.

989
01:38:36.090 --> 01:38:46.200
Sima Kostovetsky: All the prints are free and included in the price and their unlimited and we have access to this even two years after the fact, and I just want to acknowledge our.

990
01:38:46.680 --> 01:39:01.170
Sima Kostovetsky: own board at the time, and this is actually the sign this is one of the signs and you could see the backdrop right behind it and you could see that there's absolutely nothing that's in conflict with us, so thank you for letting me share that.

991
01:39:01.380 --> 01:39:03.750
james murez: Thank you, and the black label is not part of the booth right.

992
01:39:05.310 --> 01:39:05.700
james murez: Okay.

993
01:39:08.220 --> 01:39:09.750
james murez: I got that i'm just joking.

994
01:39:09.990 --> 01:39:15.450
james murez: Okay let's go, so now we have a better idea of what the Popper artsy stringer she's taking pictures of Santa.

995
01:39:16.230 --> 01:39:19.260
james murez: Or the you know the the company I don't know if it's going to be.

996
01:39:20.910 --> 01:39:22.020
james murez: The Shiva Stein.

997
01:39:23.160 --> 01:39:37.110
james murez: Edison who's, who is the Venice Popper it, but we now know what the photographs are about it's not just taking it with your handheld camera it's a whole setup in a display that has been done in the past soledad you have your hand up, would you like to speak.

998
01:39:37.560 --> 01:39:40.920
soledad ursua: Okay, great, I just wanted to say that this sounds like it's something.

999
01:39:40.920 --> 01:39:50.340
soledad ursua: That is really supported and beneficial to the community of actual stakeholders who live here in Venice, and this was one thing that I wanted to bring up to Freddie.

1000
01:39:50.760 --> 01:39:56.700
soledad ursua: You know, it seems that we've had a lot of people joining our meetings recently, who are not actual business stakeholders.

1001
01:39:57.330 --> 01:40:03.900
soledad ursua: For instance, we had Ruth who dialed in she's a homeless person living on the streets, she has the number ending in.

1002
01:40:04.410 --> 01:40:10.620
soledad ursua: 1561 you know she calls into the transportation meetings often and makes you know similar demands.

1003
01:40:11.040 --> 01:40:16.740
soledad ursua: she's, not even a stakeholder we have Margaret malloy who's, not even a stakeholder she's a stakeholder and mar vista.

1004
01:40:17.250 --> 01:40:24.150
soledad ursua: So I want to make I just last point, I think that we need to listen to our stakeholders who want this it's important to them.

1005
01:40:24.390 --> 01:40:32.070
soledad ursua: And we are elected to represent our stakeholders in Venice so let's listen to them let's listen to the people who actually live events well i'm all for this thing.

1006
01:40:32.460 --> 01:40:36.270
james murez: On stay on topic Thank you Ali go ahead, please.

1007
01:40:38.520 --> 01:40:46.890
Alix Gucovsky: Alright, thanks, Jim, I just wanted to say, you know, this is a great event just seeing those pictures at Sema brought up brought up so many fond memories and something we need.

1008
01:40:47.280 --> 01:41:05.760
Alix Gucovsky: Not to be a grinch, the only thing I would ask is as we're planning this to stay off the plastic toy giveaways because that envelope in our oceans and I would really appreciate it, I know we want to you know do little festive things, but if we could try not to do the plastic Thank you.

1009
01:41:07.170 --> 01:41:09.510
james murez: Thank you, we have a do you have your hand up.

1010
01:41:10.980 --> 01:41:25.290
Daffodil Tyminski: I do thank you so much, Jim um so couple things one I think an event like this is very important, I will confess I have not really attended the vendor side lighting in the past, it happens to conflict with an annual event that I have.

1011
01:41:26.550 --> 01:41:35.700
Daffodil Tyminski: But i've heard from so many people how much they love the vent assigned lighting and i've also, you know as a personal party for myself been very concerned about.

1012
01:41:37.110 --> 01:41:51.120
Daffodil Tyminski: You know, doing something at the House, and so I think we should support this, I know, seem i've worked with her through a whole bunch of what she's working on on the budget on this she's been working really hard to get it done.

1013
01:41:52.890 --> 01:42:05.280
Daffodil Tyminski: The Venice Popper razzi booth, as it were, to me harkens back to when I was growing up as a kid we used to go to one of makers, which became macy's back in the day, and it was like a whole event.

1014
01:42:05.670 --> 01:42:14.430
Daffodil Tyminski: And i've been hearing from people in the Community, how they really like the sign lighting, because they take their kids to see Santa even if they're not they don't believe in Christmas it's just kind of a thing.

1015
01:42:15.510 --> 01:42:25.080
Daffodil Tyminski: So I would suggest that we really support this and there's a bunch of other things in there not plastic toys some bike lights all kinds of stuff for everyone.

1016
01:42:26.310 --> 01:42:34.380
Daffodil Tyminski: So I would encourage the board to really support this, it seems as though even outside of Venice it's become a very big business event.

1017
01:42:34.830 --> 01:42:39.300
james murez: Thank you debbie bill if nobody else has anything they need to say about this let's take about.

1018
01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:42.600
james murez: Melissa.

1019
01:42:51.480 --> 01:42:52.680
Daffodil Tyminski: let's I think you're muted.

1020
01:43:00.690 --> 01:43:01.110
Andrea Boccaletti: Hello.

1021
01:43:02.430 --> 01:43:04.110
melissadiner: Oh hello, are we taking a vote.

1022
01:43:04.290 --> 01:43:05.070
james murez: Yes, we are.

1023
01:43:07.890 --> 01:43:08.910
melissadiner: You ready for a vote.

1024
01:43:09.090 --> 01:43:10.140
james murez: Yes, please.

1025
01:43:13.530 --> 01:43:13.920
melissadiner: Hello.

1026
01:43:14.190 --> 01:43:14.940
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, yes.

1027
01:43:16.440 --> 01:43:21.240
melissadiner: I can't hear any of you so someone else will have to take the vote, right now, if you want me to.

1028
01:43:21.570 --> 01:43:22.320
Daffodil Tyminski: Take a vote.

1029
01:43:22.530 --> 01:43:24.600
Andrea Boccaletti: Andrea yes.

1030
01:43:26.310 --> 01:43:28.920
Daffodil Tyminski: I this is definitely kaminsky I vote yes.

1031
01:43:28.920 --> 01:43:30.150
james murez: Jim yes.

1032
01:43:32.850 --> 01:43:33.360
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm.

1033
01:43:34.860 --> 01:43:35.400
Daffodil Tyminski: Robert.

1034
01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:36.540
Yes.

1035
01:43:38.400 --> 01:43:39.210
Daffodil Tyminski: Clark Brown.

1036
01:43:39.420 --> 01:43:39.930
Yes.

1037
01:43:43.020 --> 01:43:43.560
Daffodil Tyminski: NICO.

1038
01:43:44.850 --> 01:43:45.270
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

1039
01:43:45.330 --> 01:43:47.850
Daffodil Tyminski: No you're muted oh yes okay Okay, thank you.

1040
01:43:49.290 --> 01:43:50.310
Daffodil Tyminski: Liz clay.

1041
01:43:50.820 --> 01:43:51.420
Yes.

1042
01:43:53.820 --> 01:43:54.630
Daffodil Tyminski: I do rob.

1043
01:43:57.510 --> 01:43:58.290
Daffodil Tyminski: Is that yes.

1044
01:43:58.710 --> 01:44:02.460
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, Jason sugar sorry i'm writing and right as we go.

1045
01:44:03.360 --> 01:44:06.570
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, thank you Jason Bruno.

1046
01:44:08.340 --> 01:44:09.000
Bruno Hernandez: Yes.

1047
01:44:09.630 --> 01:44:11.070
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks, for no Sema.

1048
01:44:12.540 --> 01:44:12.960
Sima Kostovetsky: yeah.

1049
01:44:14.790 --> 01:44:15.600
Daffodil Tyminski: leaks.

1050
01:44:15.990 --> 01:44:16.530
Yes.

1051
01:44:19.260 --> 01:44:20.130
Daffodil Tyminski: vicki.

1052
01:44:20.520 --> 01:44:21.030
Yes.

1053
01:44:22.800 --> 01:44:26.790
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Chi good to see you there you can put your hand up if you're having trouble.

1054
01:44:27.120 --> 01:44:28.710
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, yes.

1055
01:44:29.250 --> 01:44:30.300
Chie Lunn: You can hear me.

1056
01:44:30.420 --> 01:44:36.900
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah great great to have you invoice and vote yay I love her yes.

1057
01:44:39.480 --> 01:44:40.320
Daffodil Tyminski: So dad.

1058
01:44:40.620 --> 01:44:41.220
Yes.

1059
01:44:43.410 --> 01:44:44.100
Daffodil Tyminski: cj.

1060
01:44:44.520 --> 01:44:45.240
Yes.

1061
01:44:48.300 --> 01:44:48.870
Daffodil Tyminski: Melissa.

1062
01:44:52.650 --> 01:44:54.600
Daffodil Tyminski: she's mercy of the last one President.

1063
01:44:58.170 --> 01:45:01.950
Daffodil Tyminski: All right, we're gonna count Melissa for the moment it is six foot sorry.

1064
01:45:02.220 --> 01:45:03.090
james murez: Did you get Bruno.

1065
01:45:03.720 --> 01:45:09.330
Daffodil Tyminski: I did get Bruno it's 841 Oh, I thought oh 641 we're gonna count Melissa for the moment is not President.

1066
01:45:10.740 --> 01:45:15.120
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so obviously the motion carries and we'll see everyone on December 4.

1067
01:45:16.380 --> 01:45:17.430
james murez: Thank you, oh.

1068
01:45:17.460 --> 01:45:20.550
Andrea Boccaletti: You know, could you share the screen again and i'll read the second one.

1069
01:45:20.700 --> 01:45:21.930
james murez: yeah no.

1070
01:45:21.990 --> 01:45:28.320
Daffodil Tyminski: No, I wrote this whole lot as we're going i'll tally everything later and give it out to folks, but this is just from my chicken scratch.

1071
01:45:28.620 --> 01:45:30.750
james murez: Thank you yeah I guess you're gonna have to continue to.

1072
01:45:30.750 --> 01:45:32.340
james murez: Do it if Melissa can't hear us.

1073
01:45:33.840 --> 01:45:35.970
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay six see outreach tonight.

1074
01:45:37.650 --> 01:45:50.460
Andrea Boccaletti: yeah how much the average Committee requests and and the budget and Finance Committee recommends to the board approval of the following items to come out of the budget for general outreach for total of $2,760.

1075
01:45:51.720 --> 01:45:58.680
Andrea Boccaletti: Number one dnc branded wraparound bike like promos quantity 275 $4,000.

1076
01:45:59.760 --> 01:46:02.970
Andrea Boccaletti: Number two the N C round promo stickers.

1077
01:46:05.040 --> 01:46:10.050
Andrea Boccaletti: which should say that they'll have a Q was a QC quick code on it.

1078
01:46:11.280 --> 01:46:11.790
Andrea Boccaletti: quantity.

1079
01:46:13.440 --> 01:46:19.770
Andrea Boccaletti: That will take people to our events page on the website quantity $1,120.

1080
01:46:22.830 --> 01:46:33.420
Andrea Boccaletti: Number three retrofit stickers announcing meetings for the already existing dnc meeting lawn signs $150 for advertising for general outreach.

1081
01:46:34.170 --> 01:46:52.140
Andrea Boccaletti: Argonaut Dennis living your Venice and westside current $500 digital advertising costs between $172 per ad to $200 per ad depending on size and frequency of ads running number five promo items.

1082
01:46:53.730 --> 01:46:55.410
Andrea Boccaletti: The holiday outreach quantity.

1083
01:46:55.920 --> 01:47:14.460
Andrea Boccaletti: 200 250 light up necklaces rings candy canes and cookies $25 need to read others past orders for up to 200 items for the above have totaled $650 in 2019.

1084
01:47:15.720 --> 01:47:20.820
Andrea Boccaletti: Adjusting for inflation and larger quantity request new total amount requested.

1085
01:47:21.870 --> 01:47:37.140
Andrea Boccaletti: This was recommended by the budget and Finance Committee 500 on November 4 2021 and so just keep in mind a lot of these things are things that she can use also for six months time of promotion for the dnc.

1086
01:47:37.530 --> 01:47:41.670
james murez: So thank you do I, or a second, and let me just.

1087
01:47:41.730 --> 01:47:46.290
james murez: Like I highlighted the motion, the rest of that is the breakdown of.

1088
01:47:46.350 --> 01:47:47.130
Alix Gucovsky: The motion.

1089
01:47:47.340 --> 01:47:48.180
Daffodil Tyminski: So this is.

1090
01:47:48.480 --> 01:47:51.660
james murez: The leaks leaks second to thank you.

1091
01:47:52.710 --> 01:47:57.930
james murez: Okay um let's now i'm going to stop sharing for a second, so I can see the hands.

1092
01:47:58.470 --> 01:48:04.380
Daffodil Tyminski: We have three public comments for closing it and Helen up, I guess, we just have a couple more.

1093
01:48:05.760 --> 01:48:20.760
Daffodil Tyminski: we've got 713 goat puppet Helen Sean o'brien Erica more Isabel to bouvier and Julie S, and we are closing public comment at that so let's start I think 713 is Ruth Ruth why don't you go ahead and just stay on topic.

1094
01:48:22.800 --> 01:48:29.160
1561****713: hi yes, I did have my stakeholders that is question and I do need to let you know I Ruth.

1095
01:48:29.250 --> 01:48:38.130
Daffodil Tyminski: stakeholder status is not for this motion, we can certainly take that up if you'd like to talk later, but if you have a comment on this motion, make it otherwise we're gonna move on.

1096
01:48:42.060 --> 01:48:45.960
Daffodil Tyminski: um okay good pop it bring it on go ahead.

1097
01:48:48.060 --> 01:48:48.660
Goat puppet Kenosha: Excellent.

1098
01:48:49.680 --> 01:49:13.920
Goat puppet Kenosha: What I found something evil and dirty you can do with these signs when you get the date for bonds recall, you can make outreach signs that encourage people to vote in the recall, without taking a position imagine using taxpayer money through done to help promote the throat on Fuck off.

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01:49:13.980 --> 01:49:14.880
The Council.

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01:49:15.900 --> 01:49:16.920
Daffodil Tyminski: We go puppet.

1101
01:49:17.340 --> 01:49:19.410
Daffodil Tyminski: puppet we have guidelines we have.

1102
01:49:19.440 --> 01:49:20.610
Goat puppet Kenosha: propriety here.

1103
01:49:21.120 --> 01:49:22.710
Daffodil Tyminski: If you have something specific.

1104
01:49:22.710 --> 01:49:23.790
Daffodil Tyminski: On the item.

1105
01:49:24.570 --> 01:49:24.990
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

1106
01:49:25.530 --> 01:49:28.350
Daffodil Tyminski: we're gonna move on on Ellen.

1107
01:49:29.850 --> 01:49:32.370
Daffodil Tyminski: Your next Please go ahead.

1108
01:49:33.720 --> 01:49:49.830
Helen Fallon: I just want to remind everybody that outreach items anything you're giving away, including those photos are supposed to not only have the logo, but they're supposed to have contact information, so what was being done in the past was not for the funding guidelines and I hope that.

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01:49:49.830 --> 01:49:59.280
Helen Fallon: That will be corrected so that the correct it's done correctly if we're putting this kind of money out people should know how to get in touch with the dnc because if you just Google dnc.

1110
01:49:59.670 --> 01:50:05.850
Helen Fallon: Its way down they're not going to find it what's the point of outreach if you don't tell people how to get hold of you.

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01:50:08.040 --> 01:50:08.790
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Helen.

1112
01:50:09.810 --> 01:50:11.880
Daffodil Tyminski: And Erica more go ahead.

1113
01:50:14.550 --> 01:50:19.140
Erica Moore: hi guys well as usual Helen always have an excellent point I hope you will take that.

1114
01:50:19.470 --> 01:50:25.320
Erica Moore: i'd like to extend to you guys that you can use me as a resource and i'm a little disappointed you don't reach out to me.

1115
01:50:25.650 --> 01:50:31.110
Erica Moore: i'm an event planner and i'd be happy to do things for you at cost, like you, the cookies.

1116
01:50:31.380 --> 01:50:38.070
Erica Moore: You know, do some of these things to help you guys make your budget, I mean I know you're you guys are setting a budget and that's what this is about improving your budget.

1117
01:50:38.460 --> 01:50:46.410
Erica Moore: And I can guarantee you that in some cases I can help you get those numbers down, so please reach out to me you guys i'm here for you.

1118
01:50:47.670 --> 01:50:48.840
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much Erica.

1119
01:50:50.130 --> 01:50:52.080
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Isabelle.

1120
01:50:58.110 --> 01:51:00.600
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Isabelle i've lost you but.

1121
01:51:02.040 --> 01:51:03.090
Daffodil Tyminski: Julie, yes.

1122
01:51:06.390 --> 01:51:08.880
Daffodil Tyminski: As well try to give back to be able to go ahead.

1123
01:51:09.210 --> 01:51:10.380
Juli S ✨: hello, can you hear me.

1124
01:51:10.710 --> 01:51:19.770
Juli S ✨: Yes, thank you, I just want to point out, I know it was brought up before but can you please not spend money on plastic pollution which.

1125
01:51:20.280 --> 01:51:31.770
Juli S ✨: includes the stickers the long signs the light up necklaces and rings, all these things, end up in the beach and in our landfill and I hate to see our money go towards plastic pollution, thank you.

1126
01:51:35.100 --> 01:51:37.590
Daffodil Tyminski: And I is available, you should be able to talk at this.

1127
01:51:37.680 --> 01:51:39.480
Daffodil Tyminski: Point if you are available.

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01:51:39.690 --> 01:51:57.780
Isabelle Duvivier: sorry about that I, I agree with what everyone has to say about plastic I think that's fantastic, I support this motion anything we can do to get more people involved in our Community and educate them and get people involved in making our our Community better Thank you.

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01:51:59.640 --> 01:52:04.440
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much as well alright so we're closing public comment i'm.

1130
01:52:05.040 --> 01:52:06.840
james murez: happy to do you have your hand up you want to speak.

1131
01:52:07.050 --> 01:52:08.160
Daffodil Tyminski: I do want to speak.

1132
01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:11.310
Andrea Boccaletti: In his hand is up as long as you want to speak on this.

1133
01:52:11.310 --> 01:52:12.870
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay well yeah so here.

1134
01:52:12.900 --> 01:52:13.170
james murez: We are.

1135
01:52:13.200 --> 01:52:15.930
Daffodil Tyminski: Treating as panelists you why don't you go ahead before me.

1136
01:52:16.410 --> 01:52:35.820
hugh harrison: I just want to say I support these expenditures, I was dubious at first, but over the years, these are proven proven very, very cost effective ways of your acting with the Community and promote awareness of our existence, and so I support it.

1137
01:52:37.380 --> 01:52:37.950
james murez: Thank you.

1138
01:52:38.100 --> 01:52:39.000
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much you.

1139
01:52:40.350 --> 01:52:51.720
Daffodil Tyminski: um so I just want everyone in the committee to know, remember, there were there was a previous board previous couple boards and then we hit coven.

1140
01:52:52.050 --> 01:53:03.990
Daffodil Tyminski: So we have a lot of materials and storage that we can't use because they were printed in for the pre coven world so, for example, bumper stickers for the lawn signs or.

1141
01:53:04.740 --> 01:53:14.100
Daffodil Tyminski: I can't remember exactly what else was specifically around the screen that was requested but semen, I actually went to our storage facility, we did an inventory of what we had.

1142
01:53:14.580 --> 01:53:23.910
Daffodil Tyminski: We assessed what we needed and we thought okay we've got all the stuff that's no longer applicable, because you know coven the times, change the date change, you know, whatever.

1143
01:53:24.420 --> 01:53:40.200
Daffodil Tyminski: change the rules change um, how can we kind of salvage what we have and make it usable so a lot of this request is is is our is for materials for those types of things yeah like, for example.

1144
01:53:40.830 --> 01:53:44.040
Daffodil Tyminski: You know we've got the signs, Tuesday, at 7pm if you look to the.

1145
01:53:44.130 --> 01:53:53.040
Daffodil Tyminski: Lower right here bright these lawn signs don't work at the moment and trust me when we say we've been at the city trying to.

1146
01:53:53.460 --> 01:54:03.780
Daffodil Tyminski: Get back in person it's just not happening yet so we've got all of these assets that we can't use this is just one example, so part of what's requested here is.

1147
01:54:04.710 --> 01:54:12.570
Daffodil Tyminski: materials to make this stuff usable at the cheapest way possible it's actually why for the board to understand coming out of the Budget Committee.

1148
01:54:12.810 --> 01:54:25.290
Daffodil Tyminski: Why We actually had two motions because we tried to put something specifically just for the December event and then some things that were more globally applicable to outreach now.

1149
01:54:25.770 --> 01:54:32.040
Daffodil Tyminski: As a practical matter if anyone has ever thrown events you would know that you have to buy in bulk or else you get terrible pricing.

1150
01:54:32.400 --> 01:54:44.010
Daffodil Tyminski: So some things we actually really want for the December event we're buying in bulk because it's something that's been very successful and I would say the bike lights are probably one of the best examples for that.

1151
01:54:45.930 --> 01:54:52.650
Daffodil Tyminski: These things are going to be bought in bulk and we got great pricing on it yeah whoever's managing this This is great.

1152
01:54:53.940 --> 01:55:09.060
Daffodil Tyminski: And in terms of how we branded or where we put the qr code for contact information, we are all sensitive to that and we've got a lot of ideas of how to do it either we we can heat rapid or we can tag it or we can do something.

1153
01:55:10.260 --> 01:55:21.810
Daffodil Tyminski: But you know just so everyone knows, the idea of this motion is to develop some dnc branded events which has he mentioned have been successful over the years.

1154
01:55:22.350 --> 01:55:38.970
Daffodil Tyminski: And are something that we will probably give out at the sign lighting, but they will last them out say the next six to nine months, where we can try to salvage some of the stuff that we had that got lost in coven and also you know kind of get the dnc out there, a little bit more.

1155
01:55:39.900 --> 01:55:40.650
james murez: Thank you definitely i'll.

1156
01:55:41.070 --> 01:55:42.240
james murez: leave this up.

1157
01:55:45.540 --> 01:55:46.200
Alix Gucovsky: My unmuted.

1158
01:55:46.620 --> 01:55:47.670
james murez: Yes, yes hey.

1159
01:55:47.820 --> 01:56:08.280
Alix Gucovsky: Sorry i'm again support this support the materials, I would so love it if we could swap out the lights and blinking rings for maybe poinsettia plants or live Christmas trees or or something sorry about the plastic, but it just makes me crazy so that's all thanks.

1160
01:56:08.670 --> 01:56:10.860
james murez: Thank you, Jim rob go ahead, please.

1161
01:56:11.400 --> 01:56:18.210
James Robb: yeah I think I kind of agree with Alex so the the kind of stuff you guys are getting also, I think.

1162
01:56:19.470 --> 01:56:32.820
James Robb: You know, getting somebody secondhand like Erica they could get better prices, I don't know how i'd like to know from you know from you what what he got the last couple times what was the budget like.

1163
01:56:36.510 --> 01:56:38.850
james murez: Okay, thank you, Jim see my go ahead, please.

1164
01:56:40.680 --> 01:56:51.960
Sima Kostovetsky: um so let me address Jim first so Jim i'm listed what we paid last two years ago, two years ago we paid $650 I just want to remind everybody that.

1165
01:56:52.470 --> 01:57:00.450
Sima Kostovetsky: Part of the expense and I know I hated to and I hate what covert has done with all the PPC that single use.

1166
01:57:01.050 --> 01:57:14.310
Sima Kostovetsky: But what we have to be aware of, I cannot hand out just cookies like on a platter they have to be individually wrapped that's just the rule of how we have to do food right now.

1167
01:57:14.670 --> 01:57:24.480
Sima Kostovetsky: And I know how successful our cookies were a two years ago at the Venice find lighting and be just now, at the Halloween peer event.

1168
01:57:25.140 --> 01:57:38.250
Sima Kostovetsky: To address the plot that concern you guys i'm the one that's fighting for the anti-littering campaign, so I get it, the problem is well it's not really a problem, but I still have my holiday light necklace.

1169
01:57:38.820 --> 01:57:50.760
Sima Kostovetsky: from two years ago and it's still functional, so this isn't just throw away material that rings that we got my kids probably had them for six months.

1170
01:57:51.360 --> 01:58:01.920
Sima Kostovetsky: So this is just for to get and attract people to our table, so we can hand out our resiliency information, then we can hand out our meeting information.

1171
01:58:03.720 --> 01:58:06.660
Sima Kostovetsky: Mindful of the plastic, I just want to jot that.

1172
01:58:06.840 --> 01:58:08.130
james murez: Thank you see everybody.

1173
01:58:09.300 --> 01:58:11.340
james murez: everybody's in agreement, we got to keep the movement that.

1174
01:58:11.340 --> 01:58:11.670
Andrea Boccaletti: Meeting.

1175
01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:14.430
james murez: was moving NICO did you have your hand up.

1176
01:58:17.670 --> 01:58:18.270
james murez: NICO.

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01:58:18.390 --> 01:58:19.260
Nico Ruderman: apologize, no.

1178
01:58:19.530 --> 01:58:24.210
james murez: Okay, thank you i'm seeing no other hands let's take a vote, Melissa you there, Melissa.

1179
01:58:24.270 --> 01:58:25.140
melissadiner: yeah Jim.

1180
01:58:25.230 --> 01:58:26.040
james murez: great job.

1181
01:58:27.330 --> 01:58:27.990
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

1182
01:58:28.260 --> 01:58:29.520
melissadiner: I will, yes ELISE.

1183
01:58:29.730 --> 01:58:30.840
melissadiner: Yes, vicki.

1184
01:58:31.110 --> 01:58:32.460
melissadiner: Yes, Elizabeth.

1185
01:58:34.050 --> 01:58:34.830
ElizabethClay: Yes.

1186
01:58:35.070 --> 01:58:35.670
melissadiner: pull it out.

1187
01:58:36.030 --> 01:58:37.320
melissadiner: Yes, James rob.

1188
01:58:38.640 --> 01:58:39.240
melissadiner: Mika.

1189
01:58:40.770 --> 01:58:41.100
Nico Ruderman: goes.

1190
01:58:41.460 --> 01:58:42.810
clark brown: Clark yes.

1191
01:58:42.900 --> 01:58:43.440
melissadiner: Robert to.

1192
01:58:46.230 --> 01:58:46.800
melissadiner: tip it up.

1193
01:58:47.610 --> 01:58:49.380
robertthibodeau: Sorry cute oh yes.

1194
01:58:49.500 --> 01:58:49.920
melissadiner: or no.

1195
01:58:50.190 --> 01:58:51.600
melissadiner: yeah Andrea.

1196
01:58:51.840 --> 01:58:53.070
melissadiner: Yes, cj.

1197
01:58:53.430 --> 01:58:54.750
melissadiner: Yes, all of her.

1198
01:58:55.110 --> 01:58:56.340
melissadiner: Yes, Jason.

1199
01:58:57.090 --> 01:58:58.170
melissadiner: Yes, hi.

1200
01:58:58.770 --> 01:59:00.180
melissadiner: Yes, Sema.

1201
01:59:00.900 --> 01:59:03.840
melissadiner: yeah 18 00 who second did that.

1202
01:59:05.970 --> 01:59:06.600
Sima Kostovetsky: I think a week.

1203
01:59:07.440 --> 01:59:08.700
james murez: yeah I think that's correct.

1204
01:59:08.850 --> 01:59:11.760
melissadiner: Okay, was the last item 18 00 as well.

1205
01:59:13.320 --> 01:59:15.420
Daffodil Tyminski: I know the last item.

1206
01:59:17.280 --> 01:59:19.650
Daffodil Tyminski: which was six be was 17 00.

1207
01:59:20.490 --> 01:59:21.690
melissadiner: Okay cool thanks.

1208
01:59:21.720 --> 01:59:21.930
james murez: yeah.

1209
01:59:22.230 --> 01:59:24.660
Daffodil Tyminski: I can give you the list of who all the 17 more.

1210
01:59:24.780 --> 01:59:26.490
james murez: Later so wasn't here for that one.

1211
01:59:27.600 --> 01:59:27.930
melissadiner: Okay.

1212
01:59:28.290 --> 01:59:29.340
james murez: everybody else was.

1213
01:59:29.490 --> 01:59:32.700
Sima Kostovetsky: Alright, thanks everybody really appreciate it Thank you guys.

1214
01:59:32.700 --> 01:59:33.810
Sima Kostovetsky: Looking forward to it.

1215
01:59:34.080 --> 01:59:35.100
james murez: Okay us to.

1216
01:59:36.390 --> 01:59:39.870
james murez: Just wear warm clothes typically okay now we're on a number seven.

1217
01:59:40.980 --> 01:59:43.770
james murez: This is public comment items, not on the agenda.

1218
01:59:45.060 --> 01:59:53.550
james murez: that have to do with the Venice neighborhood Council so if everybody wants to raise their hand that wants to speak now is the time to do so.

1219
01:59:55.590 --> 02:00:01.500
james murez: It should not be on an item on the agenda we'll get to the item on the agenda if you stray off course we're gonna have to cut you off.

1220
02:00:02.370 --> 02:00:04.140
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay call it.

1221
02:00:04.380 --> 02:00:06.750
james murez: yeah please the last one looks like it's Helen.

1222
02:00:07.320 --> 02:00:16.680
Daffodil Tyminski: Right so we've got ruth's Jon BERT Liz right goat puppet Lisa redmond JESSICA Rogers or Camorra Margaret boy Helen fallon.

1223
02:00:17.010 --> 02:00:23.340
Daffodil Tyminski: yep um alright well i'm going in the order they're appearing on zoom so Sean why don't you go first.

1224
02:00:25.170 --> 02:00:26.100
sean obrien: hi guys, can you hear me.

1225
02:00:26.550 --> 02:00:48.690
sean obrien: Yes, awesome great meeting little long um I want to give information out there, Wednesday December 1 is the finals plum meeting for the monster on the median I don't know what to call it it's not reese Davidson Community Center any longer because the restatements in a.

1226
02:00:49.980 --> 02:00:55.890
sean obrien: Family said don't call it that, if you wish to attend the meeting and said December.

1227
02:00:56.700 --> 02:01:22.080
sean obrien: 1 Wednesday at 10am you dial in at 669-254-5252 meeting ID 1605358466 want to give a quick shout out to the recall a bond and campaign team i'd like to give a special thanks to NICO determine and Katrina for all their hard work.

1228
02:01:23.430 --> 02:01:31.320
sean obrien: I wish the Venice neighborhood Council can support them i'm not sure if it's allowed Mike bonnet is doing.

1229
02:01:33.480 --> 02:01:36.660
sean obrien: Fine, illegal campaign that's.

1230
02:01:38.280 --> 02:01:38.910
sean obrien: Appropriate.

1231
02:01:40.230 --> 02:01:45.030
Daffodil Tyminski: We got it i'm moving on bird fallon go ahead.

1232
02:01:50.070 --> 02:01:52.080
Daffodil Tyminski: hey Burt you're gonna have to unmute yourself.

1233
02:01:53.730 --> 02:01:54.960
james murez: I think he is unmuted.

1234
02:01:56.970 --> 02:01:59.040
james murez: Now he's muted now he's unmuted.

1235
02:02:00.750 --> 02:02:16.680
Bert Fallon: Then, this is about the barn and recall led by to create create just definitions more than 39,000 Republicans democrats and others came together to take the first step in the House ever the clovers from Mike button.

1236
02:02:17.460 --> 02:02:18.960
Bert Fallon: We have fed up with the crime.

1237
02:02:19.350 --> 02:02:20.160
Bert Fallon: scene or painter with.

1238
02:02:20.250 --> 02:02:27.060
Bert Fallon: hopeless and can't homeless encampment and rv squatters and many other transgressions in our beloved neighborhoods.

1239
02:02:27.600 --> 02:02:34.350
Bert Fallon: He has had many years to ease the suffering of the homeless, but has done nothing effective until recently by our recall efforts.

1240
02:02:34.920 --> 02:02:48.930
Bert Fallon: bonehead was the last was one the last election with 31,865 votes we turned in more than 39,000 signatures, and then you weren't voters wanted to sign, but they were afraid of bone hip Center retaliation.

1241
02:02:49.500 --> 02:02:52.170
Bert Fallon: He complains about potentially hostile recall.

1242
02:02:52.920 --> 02:02:53.730
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks where.

1243
02:02:55.290 --> 02:02:58.650
Daffodil Tyminski: We need, we need to cut you off it a little more than a minute.

1244
02:02:59.640 --> 02:03:10.140
james murez: yeah mark before we continue we've been interrupted twice by our parliamentarian Ivan did you have something you wanted to say at this public comment, they can talk about anything they want.

1245
02:03:12.960 --> 02:03:15.420
james murez: You want to dispute that Ivan now is your chance.

1246
02:03:17.490 --> 02:03:19.230
soledad ursua: This is public comments, if you.

1247
02:03:21.270 --> 02:03:22.320
james murez: sold me hold on.

1248
02:03:22.770 --> 02:03:24.420
james murez: i'm giving Ivan the chance to speak.

1249
02:03:24.420 --> 02:03:25.680
Andrea Boccaletti: Because it's not deliberate.

1250
02:03:26.970 --> 02:03:33.030
james murez: Okay i've been speaking we're going to continue the meeting Thank you go ahead and call the next speaker, please.

1251
02:03:33.060 --> 02:03:36.450
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay Elizabeth right thanks for coming, what is your comment.

1252
02:03:38.010 --> 02:03:43.500
Elizabeth Wright: bike lights have been mentioned a couple of times tonight, I would like to reinforce that not only were.

1253
02:03:44.550 --> 02:04:02.280
Elizabeth Wright: Have bike lights that we all love as drivers to see these lit up wheels, and all of that, but we're very light clothing white of possible, it is wonderful for drivers and prevent accidents, thank you.

1254
02:04:03.210 --> 02:04:04.320
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much less.

1255
02:04:06.540 --> 02:04:08.070
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm good puppet.

1256
02:04:09.420 --> 02:04:11.010
Daffodil Tyminski: items, not on the agenda.

1257
02:04:13.320 --> 02:04:20.670
Goat puppet Kenosha: Is no don't be illegally interrupted, and thank you, Andrea for starting my clock early and violating my civil rights.

1258
02:04:22.020 --> 02:04:33.450
Goat puppet Kenosha: So look at all of you, fighting the first amendment not letting people speak and ask questions of a public officials, what makes you better than Mike barn.

1259
02:04:34.380 --> 02:04:42.690
Goat puppet Kenosha: You know better than like bonnen you're the same as Mike bodden you have to be different than Mike bond, and if you want to be different.

1260
02:04:43.440 --> 02:04:58.890
Goat puppet Kenosha: and go up it tells you how to use outreach money way gelei to promote the upcoming recall 100% and you say it's off topic it's off topic, this is off topic every goddamn word is off topic isn't it.

1261
02:04:59.910 --> 02:05:13.260
Goat puppet Kenosha: So why are you better than my button, why should go public rent an apartment and move the Minutes, just so we can vote to recall my body i'm going to give you the opportunity to convince me.

1262
02:05:13.620 --> 02:05:13.980
Andrea Boccaletti: Like the.

1263
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Goat puppet Kenosha: People in front of home depot.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so go public two things your time is up, and also know swear words, this is a PG event.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa redmond go ahead.

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Lisa Redmond: yeah hi I can't believe I need to educate the board on what a stakeholder is.

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Lisa Redmond: Especially all of you that were elected less than six months ago, you should know what a stakeholder is a stakeholder is someone who lives works and owns property in the Community.

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Lisa Redmond: Additionally, there's also Community interest stakeholders people that may be participate in an organization within the Community.

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Lisa Redmond: There is absolutely no way soledad that you can know who every stakeholder is all of you can't do that.

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Lisa Redmond: Additionally, you called out Ruth i'm going to let you know, at the least Ruth is a member of my organization, the Venice Catholic worker she has an absolute right as a Community interest stakeholder to participate in meetings.

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Lisa Redmond: On top of that these are public meetings you cannot limit people from participating to only stakeholders, and that is a violation of the brown act and also in the rules of Dodd and Freddie can tell you that as well, thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Lisa.

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Daffodil Tyminski: JESSICA Rogers welcome from the palisades.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks for coming.

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Daffodil Tyminski: JESSICA.

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james murez: You need to unmute JESSICA there you go.

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Jessica Rogers: Thanks it just came through now so that's why you were calling for me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We have a very delayed zoom sorry.

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Jessica Rogers: So hi everybody i'm great to see your lovely faces and Venice love the the Community feeling that you've got going and the passion that you have.

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Jessica Rogers: i'd like to congratulate you on being leaders in our district for the voice of the people for speaking out very loud and very clearly, for what we do not want.

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Jessica Rogers: And now let's go ahead and continue that and say what it is that we do want for our district, we just started, we submitted our signatures and now it's time to do more, I just wanted to.

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Jessica Rogers: Thank you all for again leading the charge, this is not a Venice issue, this is not just an issue for our district, we have a humanitarian crisis on our hands and we have a mess epidemic.

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Jessica Rogers: And we also have leaders that we absolutely do not trust and that we want to see out of office Thank you again, thank you so much to our leaders in Venice.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Katrina thanks JESSICA.

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Jessica Rogers: Good evening.

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Daffodil Tyminski: All right, yeah Thank you thanks for coming i'm Erica go ahead.

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Erica Moore: hi guys thanks for your service I quickly want to acknowledge that on.

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Erica Moore: On the website, are working.

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Erica Moore: So reason the smoking painting, I cannot get those links to work, they just don't go to the actual zoom meeting.

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Erica Moore: it's very frustrating, so I missed a couple of meetings and I logged on late as a result, to another one, I could only do it from my computer so.

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Erica Moore: I appreciate you guys checking into that and then also having the calendar populated in advance, so we can plan our schedules accordingly.

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Erica Moore: I also wanted to let you guys know that I know that there's projects that are on the agenda that have to do with.

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02:08:54.480 --> 02:09:01.440
Erica Moore: Businesses and deliveries and I wanted to throw this out there, you might not be aware of this, but there are a lot of deliveries May.

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Erica Moore: have four different restaurants and things that where they park the cube trucks, in the middle of the street.

1295
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Erica Moore: Because they can't park next to the business and what it does it really obstruct parking are driving in the actual middle age, I have lots of photographs of this happening on Washington on linkedin and it's really not safe, they have to literally Parker live their their palates around.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So thanks Erica.

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Erica Moore: When you're putting these through.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Erica.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Margaret go ahead.

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Margaret Molloy: Thank you, and so, first of all, I think the perhaps the whole board Needs Education on what a stakeholder is and you're supposed to read the nc charter so start there, please.

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Margaret Molloy: and identifying somebody by other economic, demographic is really fucking low so i'm sorry for swearing but you just.

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Margaret Molloy: play with that so in terms of the people were calling in and they're you know agenda which seems very specific, I just want to let you know that city watch on November 15 published.

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Margaret Molloy: That that's good I annie's district director said that at a November 2 meeting of CD 15 working working group on homelessness that as of January 2020 homeless count.

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Margaret Molloy: By Lhasa, there were 20 257 people homeless in of those 1200 and 19 lived on the street, while the rest lived on their in their vehicles.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Margaret.

1306
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Margaret Molloy: Why are you crying.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Helen go ahead.

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Helen Fallon: I would just like to remind the entire board that our bylaws need to be revised and our committee in charge of that doesn't seem to be too focused on doing that.

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Helen Fallon: And one of the issues is clearly the inability to muster up a neighborhood committee you're supposed to have nine members, by definition, appointed by the board.

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Helen Fallon: Currently, I think you've only appointed for but it's kind of hard to tell because your minutes don't make any sense.

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02:11:15.330 --> 02:11:24.540
Helen Fallon: So you don't even have a corn, and yet you're submitting motions from it, you guys need to really start following the rules when you don't follow the rules that becomes an equitable.

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Helen Fallon: And that's an issue, because then you're discriminating against various members of the community I don't get why you can't even follow the basics.

1313
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Helen Fallon: change your bylaws so you've got you know it's it's sad we don't have good representation from all the neighborhoods you guys aren't doing your job thanks.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks hon.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm 713 who I believe is Ruth.

1316
02:11:53.730 --> 02:11:55.620
Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry, trying to get you on here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead, Chris.

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1561****713: hi yes it is Ruth in Ireland house and I just wanted to say thank you to Lisa anyone else who have stood up for me and my stakeholder status.

1319
02:12:14.970 --> 02:12:25.170
1561****713: They still kept the country's largest homeless encampment is skid row which does not have its own neighborhood Council, even though they tried to get one in 2017.

1320
02:12:25.470 --> 02:12:32.190
1561****713: And the second largest homeless encampment is in Venice and you guys have made it so that none of the 2000 something.

1321
02:12:33.000 --> 02:12:40.860
1561****713: is and how people in Venice are able to participate, and so I just want to spend my power bank tonight sitting in on a meeting again.

1322
02:12:41.160 --> 02:12:48.930
1561****713: But somebody has to in order to make sure it doesn't become an equitable So yes please fix your committee, please make your committee equitable Thank you.

1323
02:12:50.490 --> 02:12:50.880
James Robb: Thanks.

1324
02:12:51.180 --> 02:12:52.140
Daffodil Tyminski: Chris appreciate.

1325
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Daffodil Tyminski: john and Michelle hales go ahead.

1326
02:12:58.710 --> 02:13:00.570
John and Michele Hales: Thank you very much, I appreciate that.

1327
02:13:01.800 --> 02:13:07.680
John and Michele Hales: We are celebrating 121 zoom meetings that we've been to over the past year and a half.

1328
02:13:08.190 --> 02:13:15.840
John and Michele Hales: And we oftentimes come across really critical information, and this is what i'm going to share with you folks listening closely.

1329
02:13:16.440 --> 02:13:24.750
John and Michele Hales: Over the past two weeks, our neighborhood has caught two people after midnight going through mailboxes extracting mail.

1330
02:13:25.290 --> 02:13:32.490
John and Michele Hales: A discussion about that, with the neighborhood they all say geez I hope I hope you didn't lose anything, how are you going to know.

1331
02:13:33.060 --> 02:13:44.220
John and Michele Hales: What i'm sharing with you is the fact that you can go to the post office get the post office APP on your phone and download it and they'll send you pictures.

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John and Michele Hales: Of the mail that you get each day before it goes in your mailbox that way you'll know if you're missing anything appreciate it Thank you much Keep up the good work.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much, I feel compelled here to give a little PSA for the United States postal inspection service if anyone does have stolen mail issues they are great reach out to them, and if you need to do that, let me know.

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Daffodil Tyminski: They take this stuff very seriously.

1335
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Daffodil Tyminski: Ruth I feel like we already had a comment from you i'm disabling you and our last public comment will be Robin euro's.

1336
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Robin Murez: hi I just you're hearing me right.

1337
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Robin Murez: Yes, I just want to clarify, I think it was shawn at the very beginning, who said that the upcoming hearing for the monster on the median is December, one that date is correct, but.

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Robin Murez: Our dear Council member Mike bannon went behind closed doors and got this waived out of Plum so it's going to the full la City Council That means it has not gotten.

1339
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Robin Murez: A reviewed by sequence, it has not gotten an e ir it did not it was bumped out of major projects, and it really didn't get reviewed by the basic planning.

1340
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Robin Murez: department so and now he has bumped it out of.

1341
02:15:16.650 --> 02:15:26.310
Robin Murez: The plum committee so it's going to full City Council December one and another outrageous element of an outrageous project.

1342
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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

1343
02:15:28.920 --> 02:15:34.050
Daffodil Tyminski: appreciate the comment um okay so with that we're closing public comment and.

1344
02:15:34.050 --> 02:15:34.470
Andrea Boccaletti: I think.

1345
02:15:36.210 --> 02:15:37.020
Daffodil Tyminski: it's on the agenda.

1346
02:15:39.510 --> 02:15:40.080
james murez: Okay.

1347
02:15:41.700 --> 02:15:43.230
james murez: Let me take back over the.

1348
02:15:43.650 --> 02:15:44.610
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, if you could.

1349
02:15:44.970 --> 02:15:46.590
james murez: Take over to them yep.

1350
02:15:48.300 --> 02:16:01.620
james murez: So now we are on to the consent calendar for the board, and I just wonder if there was some items that needed to be put on to eight and work, but I guess we'll get there.

1351
02:16:02.940 --> 02:16:05.220
james murez: It just didn't happen okay um.

1352
02:16:07.140 --> 02:16:16.410
Alix Gucovsky: I think that almost everything that was out of blue pack, we can go through it was on consent, I believe there were two stakeholder emotions from TIM bone felt our own consent.

1353
02:16:17.520 --> 02:16:29.160
Alix Gucovsky: Close on consent i'm an F knows consent um I think 600 604 boulevard is concerned, as well to if you scroll down.

1354
02:16:29.580 --> 02:16:32.160
james murez: yeah it's it's a bit jerky old on.

1355
02:16:33.000 --> 02:16:37.020
Alix Gucovsky: We had so just if we can like speed this up, you know.

1356
02:16:38.340 --> 02:16:40.590
Daffodil Tyminski: Everything on nine should have been on consent.

1357
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melissadiner: So, all we do right now is we say Is anyone opposed or Is anyone, and then we move on to loop back so or has anyone pulling anything, and then we.

1358
02:16:51.120 --> 02:16:51.990
melissadiner: Under say.

1359
02:16:52.380 --> 02:16:56.490
james murez: Thank you understood So is there anybody that wants to pull anything off of the consent calendar.

1360
02:16:59.070 --> 02:17:04.440
james murez: Seeing no objections, the consent calendar passes, thank you.

1361
02:17:06.990 --> 02:17:08.970
james murez: Let me go back to sharing.

1362
02:17:10.470 --> 02:17:11.460
james murez: The screen.

1363
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Now for some reason it's stuck.

1364
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james murez: There we go, so now we're on to 10 is your items, not on the consent, this was a placeholder that came in after the fact, and I guess the motion is here below.

1365
02:17:30.060 --> 02:17:31.410
james murez: 71 rose.

1366
02:17:32.430 --> 02:17:37.050
james murez: And the vote was 701 a weeks, do you want to go ahead and read the motion, please.

1367
02:17:37.110 --> 02:17:41.820
Alix Gucovsky: tour and and just seeing other abstention was because we have someone coming late to the meeting.

1368
02:17:42.180 --> 02:17:53.190
Alix Gucovsky: i'm the Venice neighborhood Council recommends approval of the project as presented with the following conditions one hours of loading and unloading to be limited for le MC ordinance number one.

1369
02:17:53.820 --> 02:18:14.040
Alix Gucovsky: can make that 166 point 514 see below two hours of operation of the restaurant to match the most typical hours of operation of the other restaurants along rose corridor and the code is about vehicle loading and unloading the basically for him, is it between the hours of 10pm and 7am.

1370
02:18:16.140 --> 02:18:17.340
james murez: Thank you do I hear a second.

1371
02:18:23.640 --> 02:18:24.990
melissadiner: All second at masa.

1372
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james murez: Excuse me now let's go to public comment, they see there are four hands up ending with Robert thibodeau know Erica more Erica more will now be the last one i'm.

1373
02:18:42.690 --> 02:18:48.090
james murez: Robin here as his hand went down Erica more still the last one go ahead.

1374
02:18:48.990 --> 02:18:51.570
soledad ursua: I think you need to let Robert typical and he's.

1375
02:18:51.990 --> 02:18:54.120
james murez: Oh, that might be it's a good point, thank you.

1376
02:18:59.790 --> 02:19:00.390
james murez: i'm trying.

1377
02:19:02.670 --> 02:19:07.740
james murez: There now he's back Robert did you have your hand up to speaker just to get back into meeting.

1378
02:19:07.800 --> 02:19:09.840
robertthibodeau: laptop crash there buddy so.

1379
02:19:09.870 --> 02:19:11.130
james murez: that's not a problem.

1380
02:19:11.850 --> 02:19:13.080
james murez: Okay um.

1381
02:19:15.810 --> 02:19:17.190
Daffodil Tyminski: Let me to call it, or.

1382
02:19:17.310 --> 02:19:19.560
james murez: yeah no go ahead i'm just wondering.

1383
02:19:20.820 --> 02:19:25.440
james murez: Robin near as did not have her hand up i'm just moving her back to the.

1384
02:19:26.040 --> 02:19:26.340
Daffodil Tyminski: Right.

1385
02:19:26.670 --> 02:19:27.090
james murez: There you go.

1386
02:19:27.570 --> 02:19:36.120
Daffodil Tyminski: So we've got good puppet ending in 706 Eric and more and 920 ending in 920 so good puppet good you've got a minute.

1387
02:19:40.260 --> 02:19:41.550
Daffodil Tyminski: You need to unmute yourself.

1388
02:19:44.040 --> 02:19:47.220
james murez: Just puppet did you want to speak on this agenda item for loop back.

1389
02:19:53.910 --> 02:19:57.990
Daffodil Tyminski: All right, let's move on to the number ending in.

1390
02:19:59.190 --> 02:19:59.430
Daffodil Tyminski: hold.

1391
02:19:59.460 --> 02:20:00.420
james murez: hold on one second.

1392
02:20:02.310 --> 02:20:04.170
james murez: I just clicked on the unmute button.

1393
02:20:05.280 --> 02:20:06.510
Daffodil Tyminski: No, I it.

1394
02:20:08.310 --> 02:20:09.180
james murez: allowed to talk.

1395
02:20:09.240 --> 02:20:10.770
Daffodil Tyminski: He needs to unmute.

1396
02:20:11.040 --> 02:20:11.790
james murez: yeah okay.

1397
02:20:14.040 --> 02:20:15.420
james murez: Okay let's keep going sorry.

1398
02:20:16.140 --> 02:20:17.730
Daffodil Tyminski: um we are on.

1399
02:20:18.270 --> 02:20:27.120
james murez: 706706 I think you have to press star nine.

1400
02:20:27.690 --> 02:20:28.590
james murez: To unmute yourself.

1401
02:20:29.070 --> 02:20:29.850
There you go you got it.

1402
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1310****706: hello, we can hear me yes.

1403
02:20:34.680 --> 02:20:38.700
1310****706: What did you gotta turn off your computer got multiple devices on the zoom.

1404
02:20:38.700 --> 02:20:40.020
Daffodil Tyminski: you've got to turn one of the month.

1405
02:20:45.510 --> 02:20:46.920
james murez: Okay um.

1406
02:20:47.280 --> 02:20:50.460
Daffodil Tyminski: X yeah Erica more go ahead.

1407
02:20:54.840 --> 02:21:01.740
Erica Moore: um I hope you guys are gonna vote for this and I just again want you guys just to consider when you're looking at these.

1408
02:21:03.000 --> 02:21:03.600
Erica Moore: I go.

1409
02:21:03.870 --> 02:21:05.190
Erica Moore: To take all the risk but i'm just.

1410
02:21:05.190 --> 02:21:18.810
Erica Moore: saying I want you guys to consider this situation, about how these vehicles are loading for these businesses, because there is a real, serious problem and I don't know what the solution is, but it is something that should be considered.

1411
02:21:20.220 --> 02:21:21.300
Erica Moore: Especially when I was in a.

1412
02:21:21.570 --> 02:21:23.640
Erica Moore: Concentration of small businesses.

1413
02:21:24.810 --> 02:21:34.680
Erica Moore: Small Business and we had issues but thankfully, we found a solution, but having these large trucks, in the middle of the highway far.

1414
02:21:35.100 --> 02:21:52.080
Erica Moore: And you've got traffic coming by on both sides is very scary and very unsafe for everybody, so I really want you guys to think about that, when you are considering these projects because there's lots of impacts that you don't think about same thing with the trash removal there's.

1415
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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Erica.

1416
02:21:53.700 --> 02:21:54.360
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

1417
02:21:55.590 --> 02:21:59.850
Daffodil Tyminski: um okay number ending in 920 go ahead.

1418
02:22:08.040 --> 02:22:10.110
Daffodil Tyminski: 920 you need to unmute yourself.

1419
02:22:10.380 --> 02:22:11.820
james murez: Start star nine.

1420
02:22:15.870 --> 02:22:18.810
james murez: rest of the star nine key on your telephone, if you want to speak.

1421
02:22:21.030 --> 02:22:23.430
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah we'll give you a couple more seconds 920 but.

1422
02:22:26.010 --> 02:22:27.900
Daffodil Tyminski: we're gonna move on to the next person.

1423
02:22:30.870 --> 02:22:35.580
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay number ending in 713713.

1424
02:22:38.520 --> 02:22:43.050
1561****713: hi this is rude, I just wanted to tell you that some breaking news.

1425
02:22:44.340 --> 02:22:50.220
1561****713: At home, I think happening with to homeless people to homeless people in it was just lit on fire.

1426
02:22:50.610 --> 02:22:56.010
1561****713: Fire release we appreciate this, this is not the time or place Thank you we're off.

1427
02:22:56.700 --> 02:22:57.390
topic.

1428
02:22:58.800 --> 02:23:05.970
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm good puppet sorry we tried to call on you, you didn't respond we're moving on.

1429
02:23:07.980 --> 02:23:11.160
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay let's go to the board comments.

1430
02:23:11.280 --> 02:23:11.820
james murez: Thank you.

1431
02:23:13.200 --> 02:23:15.330
james murez: yeah people that you, you have your hand up did you want to speak.

1432
02:23:15.540 --> 02:23:24.300
Daffodil Tyminski: I did you know i'm a couple things and one some of the comments really brought this home for me, but I would just say in general for public comment.

1433
02:23:24.750 --> 02:23:30.780
Daffodil Tyminski: If you're going to public comment that's great, but at least familiarize yourself with what the project is so you understand.

1434
02:23:31.260 --> 02:23:42.600
Daffodil Tyminski: The particulars of it, because we do listen to these comments and if some of the public and read what the project was and looked at the documents they would have not made the comments they did.

1435
02:23:44.730 --> 02:23:53.670
Daffodil Tyminski: I this was obviously vetted by loop hack and you know I greatly defer to them, but I would say that there's been a big problem with this particular.

1436
02:23:54.630 --> 02:24:05.850
Daffodil Tyminski: Property with the loading and unloading they don't do it in the street, they do it in their yard, but they do it in the middle of the night and we've been operating for years illegally.

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Daffodil Tyminski: and

1438
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Daffodil Tyminski: They just in my personal opinion, have not been good actors in the Community with what they've done but um.

1439
02:24:18.330 --> 02:24:26.850
Daffodil Tyminski: You know, obviously neighbor people you know the neighborhood's gotten together and they kind of know what they're doing, but I would just like to point out, for the board, this is ground works on rose.

1440
02:24:27.810 --> 02:24:36.000
Daffodil Tyminski: So it's groundwork sort of toward Lincoln and I think it's situated between a private residence and another business.

1441
02:24:38.490 --> 02:24:39.120
Daffodil Tyminski: that's all I have.

1442
02:24:39.210 --> 02:24:41.490
james murez: Thank you devin no actually it's between two residences.

1443
02:24:42.480 --> 02:24:44.550
james murez: Actually, its residents on four sides.

1444
02:24:45.930 --> 02:24:50.520
james murez: So across the alley and back and across the street and threat are all residences Jim go ahead, please.

1445
02:24:52.650 --> 02:24:53.430
james murez: you're muted Jim.

1446
02:24:54.420 --> 02:25:04.080
James Robb: And I have a couple questions on this in the issue that i've seen and like Erica said, we have the new Italian restaurant by me osby.

1447
02:25:04.770 --> 02:25:11.490
James Robb: I think general partners or Jennifer general real estate owns all that she owns the parking lots and all that.

1448
02:25:12.090 --> 02:25:24.930
James Robb: They had workers in the our alley till three o'clock in the morning last night jackhammer and the driveways and all that, so you know, I think, I think, as far as what Eric was saying is correct.

1449
02:25:25.980 --> 02:25:32.340
James Robb: It before we approve any of these projects we they need to know how they're going to be getting their deliveries when they're going to be.

1450
02:25:32.940 --> 02:25:44.670
James Robb: I mean this awesome little it literally has trucks parked on Pacific at three o'clock in the afternoon and loading, which is backing up traffic, all the way up Pacific to pass Windward so.

1451
02:25:45.210 --> 02:26:00.150
James Robb: I think before we get anybody, you know brought us on this, we need to know how they're getting their deliveries pickups and trash he's also got his oil catch her out there in the alley so he's breaking all kinds of laws, thank you.

1452
02:26:00.420 --> 02:26:01.020
james murez: Thank you, Jim.

1453
02:26:02.400 --> 02:26:02.910
james murez: i'm.

1454
02:26:03.720 --> 02:26:10.920
Daffodil Tyminski: just remind people to let's stay on topic with this project, I understand, we have we have issues in general but let's try to move it on which is this project.

1455
02:26:11.580 --> 02:26:13.410
james murez: Thank you got to go elite go ahead, please.

1456
02:26:13.980 --> 02:26:20.940
Alix Gucovsky: Great thanks Jim so I just want to give a little a little context on this um Jim actually sent me an email and.

1457
02:26:21.750 --> 02:26:32.340
Alix Gucovsky: being heard and it came it came before loop huck previous term, and we pulled it from a pet project has been put on hold.

1458
02:26:33.030 --> 02:26:40.830
Alix Gucovsky: And yes, we had had complaints from people in the Community worries about them being as capital reference bad operators.

1459
02:26:41.280 --> 02:26:50.430
Alix Gucovsky: And there was pretty extensive outreach done with the applicant with the owner and with the Community and the biggest concerns.

1460
02:26:51.120 --> 02:27:02.100
Alix Gucovsky: Were the loading hours, and if you see in the motion, the motion very specifically references enforcement of code that that would enable you know that would basically prohibit.

1461
02:27:03.360 --> 02:27:09.210
Alix Gucovsky: Loading between the hours of 10pm and seven in the morning, which was a big concern to the Community.

1462
02:27:09.540 --> 02:27:21.870
Alix Gucovsky: But the overwhelming feedback from the Community, and this is coming back from Lou peck staff Marion and Korean was that the Community, really, really wanted them there and they just were concerned.

1463
02:27:22.920 --> 02:27:28.200
Alix Gucovsky: about these loading hours so that's sort of all the light I can shed on that project I hope that's helpful.

1464
02:27:31.950 --> 02:27:34.350
james murez: Thank you i'm Andrea go ahead, please.

1465
02:27:35.340 --> 02:27:47.760
Andrea Boccaletti: yeah I was just concerned about the loading hours as well, I mean if the Community is all right from know loading from 10 to 7am I would think it shouldn't be done anytime after 9pm that's my two cents.

1466
02:27:49.380 --> 02:27:50.280
james murez: Okay, thank you.

1467
02:27:51.690 --> 02:27:57.300
james murez: I saw another hand there for a minute seem as at your hand, or you just showing off your fingernails.

1468
02:27:59.940 --> 02:28:01.020
james murez: Go ahead, I.

1469
02:28:04.140 --> 02:28:13.590
Sima Kostovetsky: muted just speak hi um so a week, do you feel like the concerns were addressed by your motion.

1470
02:28:15.390 --> 02:28:17.100
Sima Kostovetsky: Do you feel like the concerns where it's you know.

1471
02:28:20.250 --> 02:28:21.210
james murez: that's a leak you're.

1472
02:28:21.240 --> 02:28:37.680
Alix Gucovsky: very sorry I muted yes Sema I do, but I mean this brings back the larger question right the motion specifically references existing Code, the issue becomes whether you know whether led bs or whether the city will actually.

1473
02:28:38.130 --> 02:28:45.390
Alix Gucovsky: enforce for right like this is what we see sort of as a regular thing that we don't get enforcement.

1474
02:28:46.200 --> 02:29:03.270
Alix Gucovsky: But I do believe that the applicant is trying to you know to to clean up some of the past misc Russians and, and this would address the concerns of the Community and certainly if we put this forth as a Commission, as as a condition, you know it's paper hope that.

1475
02:29:06.150 --> 02:29:06.540
Sima Kostovetsky: Thank you.

1476
02:29:06.570 --> 02:29:07.050
james murez: Thank you.

1477
02:29:08.160 --> 02:29:08.850
james murez: NICO go ahead.

1478
02:29:11.220 --> 02:29:16.380
Nico Ruderman: yeah I mean I know just from personal experience that they actually had a petition.

1479
02:29:17.400 --> 02:29:21.510
Nico Ruderman: about this in their store was was this percent at all, I was there any feedback from the Community.

1480
02:29:23.100 --> 02:29:27.570
Nico Ruderman: About about about petition, how much support was there.

1481
02:29:28.860 --> 02:29:45.810
Alix Gucovsky: As I said, most of the Community really supported this and they just had concerns there were some concerns about the loaded and the hours because it will be a 24 hour kitchen, but this this is this was this was addressed by the.

1482
02:29:47.010 --> 02:29:48.120
Alix Gucovsky: By the by the code.

1483
02:29:49.620 --> 02:29:57.030
Alix Gucovsky: And I should add also that we did not have anyone in the Community, and this was on the loop at calendar twice.

1484
02:29:57.570 --> 02:30:04.740
Alix Gucovsky: And we did not have anybody in the Community come out and speak against the project, the best of my recollection.

1485
02:30:05.130 --> 02:30:17.730
Alix Gucovsky: Or let me rephrase that we did not have neighbors in the vicinity of the project come out and speak against this project, so you know that's a that's a fairly big indicator for for me.

1486
02:30:22.230 --> 02:30:25.230
james murez: Thank you, thank you, Melissa did you want to speak on this topic.

1487
02:30:26.310 --> 02:30:33.240
melissadiner: yeah I mean I just think that you know correct me if i'm wrong Ivan Jim people that have been around longer.

1488
02:30:33.690 --> 02:30:41.430
melissadiner: Conditions are usually something we do to reinforce specific things we want to see like a week said that are.

1489
02:30:41.880 --> 02:31:00.210
melissadiner: Already potentially law many times, but that aren't being enforced, not all the time, but I wouldn't I would urge everyone to just support it as read in and not go too much further down into the minutia it's just a reminder to them to do what they're already supposed to be doing.

1490
02:31:02.250 --> 02:31:04.020
james murez: Okay, thank you um.

1491
02:31:05.100 --> 02:31:09.750
james murez: daffodil you still have your hand up did you want to speak, one more time, I wanted to still pay you go ahead.

1492
02:31:10.140 --> 02:31:18.090
Daffodil Tyminski: I did and i'm sorry to do this twice, but I didn't realize that they were asking for 24 hour conditions and to me just as a practical matter.

1493
02:31:18.450 --> 02:31:32.250
Daffodil Tyminski: How are they going to limit if they've got residential and all three sides, how are they going to limit their operations till 10pm but be operating 24 hours like they're going to have people that have to come and go.

1494
02:31:33.480 --> 02:31:37.710
Daffodil Tyminski: Between I would say 10 and whatever their morning, time is six seven.

1495
02:31:39.000 --> 02:31:52.950
Daffodil Tyminski: Whatever it is, and I say this from experience, like it's these these conditions are not enforceable right, so we can pick whatever conditions we want, but it's very, very difficult to enforce so i'm just curious from a leaks like what is the.

1496
02:31:54.570 --> 02:31:56.610
Daffodil Tyminski: Like How does that work that.

1497
02:31:58.020 --> 02:32:02.970
Daffodil Tyminski: they're asking for loading, unloading only until 10 but they're going to operate 24 hours.

1498
02:32:04.380 --> 02:32:05.520
james murez: A week, do you want to answer that.

1499
02:32:07.410 --> 02:32:08.010
james murez: you're muted.

1500
02:32:10.560 --> 02:32:11.400
james murez: you're still muted.

1501
02:32:11.520 --> 02:32:13.800
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, I think, oh leaks to cheek it.

1502
02:32:14.100 --> 02:32:22.080
Alix Gucovsky: All right, that was not an issue that was that was flagged by the Community, the bigger issue was the loading and unloading um.

1503
02:32:23.040 --> 02:32:29.190
Daffodil Tyminski: But i'm just thinking, I mean I don't know but practically in my mind i'm thinking okay well if you open 24 hours.

1504
02:32:29.910 --> 02:32:39.570
Daffodil Tyminski: But you can only load and unload till 10 like so do you have eight hours, where everyone just stands in the room, and where the building and doesn't leave like How does that work practically.

1505
02:32:39.930 --> 02:32:51.030
Alix Gucovsky: Well, I mean but technically, I mean technically death look it's code, I mean we have the code in front of us, especially with you know I don't I don't necessarily know how it's going to work practically.

1506
02:32:51.480 --> 02:32:59.730
Alix Gucovsky: Unless they're going to have to not operate their kitchen 24 seven because they're gonna they're going to be restricted by what can go in and out between the hours of 10 and seven.

1507
02:33:03.420 --> 02:33:09.360
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm just saying how's that work because we can't enforce those restrictions right like so if.

1508
02:33:11.580 --> 02:33:11.940
Alix Gucovsky: well.

1509
02:33:11.970 --> 02:33:21.390
Daffodil Tyminski: We can I don't know i've never heard of it this way before i've never heard where someone has a 24 hour authorization to operate, but they can only go in and out of the building for.

1510
02:33:22.290 --> 02:33:30.390
Daffodil Tyminski: You know, whatever it is 16 of those hours right they're gonna have to go if they're operating 24 hours we just lost somebody.

1511
02:33:30.930 --> 02:33:43.080
Daffodil Tyminski: But they're going to have to go in and out I would think, and I say this i'm not i'm not necessarily opposed to it, I just want to make sure that when we make a vote we're setting the Community expectations correctly in terms of what was voted on and.

1512
02:33:44.220 --> 02:33:55.650
Daffodil Tyminski: What they're entitled to do right like I don't have a problem, I mean I don't I wouldn't want it next door to me living, but if the neighbors are fine, with it, fine whatever, but it doesn't make sense to me how its proposed.

1513
02:33:56.310 --> 02:34:04.350
james murez: So Okay, thank you def we have I see two more hands up, I would like to also speak, did you guys speak once he had already Jim did you speak yet.

1514
02:34:07.140 --> 02:34:08.700
james murez: Have you spoken already once on this.

1515
02:34:08.910 --> 02:34:12.690
James Robb: I spoke on that I was just going to bring up the starbucks on ocean front.

1516
02:34:12.750 --> 02:34:16.140
james murez: hold on one second NICO de de Have you already spoken on this one.

1517
02:34:17.040 --> 02:34:19.830
Nico Ruderman: I did speak I just had one quick point, but I don't have to.

1518
02:34:19.830 --> 02:34:21.300
james murez: Let me, let me speak real quick.

1519
02:34:21.540 --> 02:34:26.700
james murez: So, then you guys got then we'll let both of you go again, I just want to get my two cents in here.

1520
02:34:27.390 --> 02:34:35.340
james murez: For those of you that don't know in the early 90s, I was involved in a tree planting project that planted about 2000 trees throughout the Community of Venice.

1521
02:34:36.000 --> 02:34:47.220
james murez: The property directly a budding this was my northern tree lot it's now got a building built on it at the time it didn't have anything on it, I was the direct next door neighbor to this.

1522
02:34:47.220 --> 02:34:52.650
james murez: place was shut down in the early 90s, because it was being used as an illegal coffee roasting house.

1523
02:34:54.420 --> 02:35:05.550
james murez: i'm looking at the drawings on the second screen that I have here and i'm seeing a huge change in what was there and permitted at the time.

1524
02:35:05.910 --> 02:35:15.150
james murez: And I believe is their current certificate of occupancy to what they're proposing to do today, including a lack of 11 parking spaces as they defined it on their drawings.

1525
02:35:15.960 --> 02:35:31.350
james murez: they're required on their drawings to have 24 parking spaces they're claiming that they're getting 13 parking spaces in credit, but they're still short 11 parking spaces and then there's a bunch of other issues this place was only permitted to be a commercial kitchen.

1526
02:35:33.840 --> 02:35:38.880
james murez: Wholesale place where where they would manufacturer food for catering.

1527
02:35:39.300 --> 02:35:41.370
james murez: Well Erica can probably.

1528
02:35:42.540 --> 02:35:51.570
james murez: Speak to that although she's had her opportunity, it was never illegal takeout restaurant, which is what it's been used for many, many, many years.

1529
02:35:52.290 --> 02:36:10.800
james murez: Now they're asking to do what looks like on their drawings, to be about two thirds of it dining space and somehow without having any kind of dividing wall they're making another third of it or so into a retail store and the commercial kitchen is still going to be in the rear.

1530
02:36:11.820 --> 02:36:16.500
james murez: They have a handicap path of travel that doesn't go to a doorway.

1531
02:36:17.700 --> 02:36:25.920
james murez: In matter of fact, maybe it hasn't even been designated as it's not clear where the handicapped path of travel is that's a mandatory requirement.

1532
02:36:27.000 --> 02:36:36.930
james murez: So So what is it that we're really looking at it looks to me like we're looking at a whole bunch of hodgepodge of lack of parking.

1533
02:36:37.230 --> 02:36:46.830
james murez: The commercial loading zone, which is normally a mandatory requirement for commercial project, although this isn't adaptive reuse they do have a parking lot of directly adjacent to the property.

1534
02:36:47.220 --> 02:36:54.000
james murez: And they're not using that as their commercial loading zone they're using that as their parking lot, and now I hear it's going to be a 24 hour operation.

1535
02:36:54.480 --> 02:37:03.120
james murez: And in a 24 hour operation, one has to wonder where are they going to be cleaning the mats and the big pots and pans that they do at the end of a cooking day.

1536
02:37:04.020 --> 02:37:11.670
james murez: You know that normally happens after the restaurant closes well if this is going to be open 24 hours a day they're not going to do it in the middle of the day when the customers are coming.

1537
02:37:12.210 --> 02:37:22.170
james murez: they're not going to be out there, washing out the mats making the noise in the alley when the customers are they're trying to enjoy their cup of coffee in the parking lot that they're using now because it's their fresco.

1538
02:37:23.160 --> 02:37:29.490
james murez: outdoor dining area, so I have a huge question they're not using their parking lot today as a parking facility.

1539
02:37:30.240 --> 02:37:38.820
james murez: If the city requires them to go back to having outdoor parking on the separate parcel that's next door, where are they going to come up with the extra 11 parking spaces that they don't have.

1540
02:37:39.210 --> 02:37:48.120
james murez: That part of the Community doesn't have any parking so I have a lot of issues with this, I can absolutely not support this project as it's being presented to me today.

1541
02:37:48.840 --> 02:37:59.310
james murez: Thank you for letting me speak, I will now go back to Jim rob who had his hand up Oh, excuse me, before you do Clark has not had a chance to speak it, and he has his hand up go ahead Clark.

1542
02:38:01.200 --> 02:38:10.500
clark brown: is right is every this most of their two parts to it, the first part is to approve a project as presented the problem is that we do not know what was presented to the.

1543
02:38:10.980 --> 02:38:20.940
clark brown: Tupac it's not defined in the spoken a lot of points of gymnastics maybe good points, but none of that is before us, so we just you can't tell it from this.

1544
02:38:21.570 --> 02:38:29.010
clark brown: Item 10, then the other part of the motion is that there, there are two limitations, with respect to with respect to the parking.

1545
02:38:29.400 --> 02:38:42.270
clark brown: I don't understand the point that these cannot be enforced both of these limitations are based on business on the municipal code and they can be enforced, just like any other provision of the municipal code can be enforced in my view.

1546
02:38:43.620 --> 02:38:53.340
james murez: Thank you Clark, let me just correct you, if I may, the project has presented was presented in the link that's directly above the.

1547
02:38:55.410 --> 02:39:00.270
james murez: Patient, although that really only the project plans it doesn't have a staff report there.

1548
02:39:00.750 --> 02:39:01.230
And there is.

1549
02:39:03.480 --> 02:39:05.190
Alix Gucovsky: There is a staff report Jim.

1550
02:39:05.310 --> 02:39:13.410
james murez: Okay it's just it's just not here in this motion, I hear you it probably was on your agenda but it's not on this agenda and I can't speak to why it's not.

1551
02:39:13.830 --> 02:39:16.650
Alix Gucovsky: Beyond the links, because all the links were sent over.

1552
02:39:17.790 --> 02:39:22.740
james murez: I believe you it's just not here we don't have three links for it but that's another story.

1553
02:39:23.820 --> 02:39:34.860
james murez: We have enough information that if people went to the loop back website, they could either listen to the video that could go back and look at the loop packed agenda the loop back agenda was correct when it was published so I appreciate that.

1554
02:39:35.040 --> 02:39:37.440
Alix Gucovsky: So, Jim can I read the staff report quickly.

1555
02:39:37.710 --> 02:39:45.180
james murez: know what let's just keep moving we have hands up there's other people asking to speak i'm Jim rob your hand is up go ahead.

1556
02:39:45.630 --> 02:39:53.310
James Robb: couple things first of all, I believe it's not the same ground works that it originally was it's been a change of ownership.

1557
02:39:53.910 --> 02:39:59.040
James Robb: I think the new owners from the valley so it's a you know it's that also.

1558
02:39:59.610 --> 02:40:07.410
James Robb: With the with the deliveries I know when starbucks was approved on the ocean for a walk they had a set of standards when they were delivering.

1559
02:40:07.980 --> 02:40:19.110
James Robb: I had nothing but complaints, my first two years on the ocean front walk of the delivery trucks driving down ocean from walk delivering starbucks coffee at one o'clock in the morning, so.

1560
02:40:20.310 --> 02:40:29.460
James Robb: The 24 hour thing bothers me the not being someone from Venice running it bothers me and the parking also bothers me.

1561
02:40:30.060 --> 02:40:46.860
James Robb: We have great white over there that took away seven or eight parking spaces that they supposedly have with safety park people across the street, but so it is Louis at the townhouse, so it is the guy from the Erwin so I don't understand where the park is coming from so.

1562
02:40:48.210 --> 02:40:49.860
James Robb: I don't know if I can approve this project.

1563
02:40:50.190 --> 02:40:50.970
Thank you judge you.

1564
02:40:52.320 --> 02:40:55.350
james murez: Give me a favorite lower your hand Robert your hands up go ahead.

1565
02:40:58.050 --> 02:40:58.950
robertthibodeau: hey thanks.

1566
02:41:00.060 --> 02:41:07.110
robertthibodeau: i'm pretty familiar with the groundwork, so you stay there, a lot of mornings, with my kid and.

1567
02:41:08.280 --> 02:41:27.870
robertthibodeau: I found that it was a very casual nice low cost place to meet, and you know informally meet other people in the neighborhood and I think these types of venues are sort of dying breeds in.

1568
02:41:28.890 --> 02:41:37.380
robertthibodeau: Venice, and I am aware of the ownership change, I think the new guy whose name escapes me right now has continued.

1569
02:41:39.390 --> 02:41:58.260
robertthibodeau: In kind of the ever evolving will mold of what ground works was and I, you know I remember back to when they just had the bags of coffee on the stands and kind of get it to go coffee and then it sort of you know it kind of expanded a little bit from there as places tend to do but.

1570
02:41:59.850 --> 02:42:03.360
robertthibodeau: You know, similar to Avatar it when that was on Abbot kinney.

1571
02:42:05.550 --> 02:42:15.900
robertthibodeau: It does serve a local crowd and it serves a local crowd that is looking for an alternative to the higher priced.

1572
02:42:16.800 --> 02:42:24.810
robertthibodeau: You know chain places that have taken over rows APP so there's like that new breakfast place, Australia and whatever.

1573
02:42:25.410 --> 02:42:36.300
robertthibodeau: You know there's all these like new places there Okay, but I think groundwork has a lot more kind of soul going for it than 99%, of the other businesses out there.

1574
02:42:37.230 --> 02:42:45.600
robertthibodeau: The parking thing I see lots of businesses operating on Rosa with no parking my buddy Oscars place where do you park for that you know.

1575
02:42:46.380 --> 02:42:57.990
robertthibodeau: That other breakfast place that I just talked about flake none of these places as any parking I mean i'm not going to nail him on that in fact I think groundwork says more parking the most of the places do.

1576
02:42:59.340 --> 02:42:59.820
robertthibodeau: and

1577
02:43:00.840 --> 02:43:01.440
robertthibodeau: You know.

1578
02:43:02.910 --> 02:43:09.750
robertthibodeau: I don't know, everybody seems intent on beating them up, I think they're pretty good service I do understand they've had some problems with with.

1579
02:43:10.230 --> 02:43:19.290
robertthibodeau: A couple of the neighbors but you know, in fairness, I think they have tried to work it out to the best of my knowledge, I have been privy to some of these conversations.

1580
02:43:19.860 --> 02:43:25.440
robertthibodeau: And, in fairness to the restaurant it's a commercial strip, and you know you're going to live on a commercial strip.

1581
02:43:25.950 --> 02:43:31.440
robertthibodeau: You do have to expect whether it's starbucks on on ocean for a walk or whether it's ground works on rose.

1582
02:43:31.830 --> 02:43:39.900
robertthibodeau: or or some place on Main Street, you know you have to expect some disturbance, you know, there is going to be loading and unloading there is going to be trash.

1583
02:43:40.230 --> 02:43:48.360
robertthibodeau: If you don't like it don't live on a commercial street you know that's your don't live across the alley from a commercial street you know it's not that's not how it works.

1584
02:43:49.050 --> 02:43:57.180
robertthibodeau: And I think they've been good performers largely not without problems and I certainly will support this thanks for listening.

1585
02:43:57.570 --> 02:44:00.420
james murez: Thank you so dad your hands up go ahead, please.

1586
02:44:00.630 --> 02:44:16.980
soledad ursua: hey Okay, so my question is is this project asking for a variance that's different from any any other business on the street that's basically it, I just want to know is the project as of right are they asking for anything out of the ordinary.

1587
02:44:18.990 --> 02:44:20.250
james murez: Colleague you want to answer that.

1588
02:44:21.240 --> 02:44:26.640
Alix Gucovsky: um no I don't believe they are, but let me just double check through the.

1589
02:44:28.650 --> 02:44:31.020
james murez: While you're double checking devil that you have your hand up.

1590
02:44:32.040 --> 02:44:34.080
Alix Gucovsky: No they're not okay.

1591
02:44:34.290 --> 02:44:37.920
soledad ursua: Because I just left off with what I do as a board member is.

1592
02:44:37.950 --> 02:44:43.860
soledad ursua: If someone is within right with their project I feel like I need to vote for it.

1593
02:44:44.520 --> 02:44:50.370
soledad ursua: If there's something that I like about it, personally, I feel like I need to leave that out, and so, while there may not be.

1594
02:44:50.670 --> 02:45:02.550
soledad ursua: Well, there may be things that I don't like about it personally as long as a project as is within right if it's not asking for any variance or anything that's out of the ordinary I feel like it's my obligation to vote for it.

1595
02:45:02.940 --> 02:45:11.310
soledad ursua: And to basically believe in our rules and go along with city planning and its wisdom, so that i'll be waiting for this Thank you.

1596
02:45:11.700 --> 02:45:19.500
Alix Gucovsky: So so to answer your question, this was this wasn't originally permitted as a retail catering operation.

1597
02:45:19.980 --> 02:45:33.780
Alix Gucovsky: And that meant that they it kitchen and onsite kitchen could be could be used, what basically happened is there was like people getting food and sitting down which made it seem like it was dying in and was never.

1598
02:45:34.800 --> 02:45:42.660
Alix Gucovsky: Never you know legalized and now what they really want to do is bring this up to being legal, which is keep the commercial.

1599
02:45:44.130 --> 02:46:00.870
Alix Gucovsky: Black excuse me, keep the commercial kitchen maintained in the rear of the building and then have a have a traditional restaurant in the front of the space that exists there, which is why, which is, which is the ask that's being put put through so.

1600
02:46:02.100 --> 02:46:11.850
james murez: You haven't you haven't answered the question where are the 11 missing parking spaces and in the land use plan that says it in any change of intensification of use, they have to bring it up to conforming rights.

1601
02:46:12.180 --> 02:46:25.920
james murez: They can't go back to non conforming uses, so if they had a wholesale kitchen there before catering kitchen before and now they're turning it into a restaurant retail store where is all the parking they don't show it on their plans.

1602
02:46:29.040 --> 02:46:45.060
soledad ursua: Right well, can I just say one thing I mean just speaking of parking everybody's now for all this all fresco dining which I was in, for you know originally so if we're talking about parking are we now going to talk about all the alfresco dining that's taking whale parking spots.

1603
02:46:45.570 --> 02:46:47.550
james murez: it's a temporary condition that the coast.

1604
02:46:47.760 --> 02:46:49.050
soledad ursua: they've now made it permanent.

1605
02:46:50.940 --> 02:46:52.380
soledad ursua: Permanent here in La.

1606
02:46:52.650 --> 02:46:57.750
james murez: Not in the coastal zone, they haven't determined what they're going to do yet i've had that conversation with them or.

1607
02:46:57.780 --> 02:46:59.610
soledad ursua: No, but you know it's like.

1608
02:47:00.690 --> 02:47:02.790
james murez: yeah you know it is what it is you're right.

1609
02:47:03.000 --> 02:47:20.550
Alix Gucovsky: yeah according to Barry on his staff report that there was no required parking for the existing permit and I guess for him the the 11 new parking in one Ada space he felt covered covered the use.

1610
02:47:21.870 --> 02:47:26.130
james murez: Wait they need you just described 11 and one Ada.

1611
02:47:27.990 --> 02:47:30.450
james murez: So where did they get 24 from 11.

1612
02:47:32.430 --> 02:47:33.990
Alix Gucovsky: What are you talking about for 24.

1613
02:47:34.290 --> 02:47:38.550
james murez: It says it on their drawings look at the drawings if the link is there.

1614
02:47:39.570 --> 02:47:46.320
james murez: um some people that haven't spoken yet I saw that Jason had his hand up Jason did you still want to speak.

1615
02:47:49.050 --> 02:47:49.680
james murez: My hand what.

1616
02:47:50.460 --> 02:47:59.970
Jason Sugars: I didn't understand and i'm sorry if I misread or miss something if they were trying to operate 24 hours a day or just have access to work their their kitchen and premises 24 hours.

1617
02:48:00.330 --> 02:48:01.500
james murez: Well there's no difference.

1618
02:48:02.670 --> 02:48:05.940
Jason Sugars: I mean, as far as open for business with customers 24.

1619
02:48:06.060 --> 02:48:15.540
james murez: So any any retail business under the municipal code is allowed to operate 24 seven unless stated they have some kind of conditional use permit.

1620
02:48:15.990 --> 02:48:28.500
james murez: That would prevent that so, for instance, an alcohol permit could be restricted to only certain service hours, but any retail store is allowed to operate 24 seven so they have that right, that is by right.

1621
02:48:30.030 --> 02:48:33.000
james murez: Okay, we have to get on with our agenda it's 945.

1622
02:48:33.870 --> 02:48:36.990
Daffodil Tyminski: I don't think that's correct just just to weigh in.

1623
02:48:38.010 --> 02:48:43.980
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm not a business has the opportunity to just operate 24 seven.

1624
02:48:44.220 --> 02:48:51.690
james murez: Okay, we cannot, we can argue that offline but that that's my understanding it's always been there in the cook anyway, without.

1625
02:48:52.380 --> 02:49:03.570
james murez: arguing it now, I think we need to take a vote on this we keep going around and around in circles unless anybody has anything really pressing let's just take a boat and move on with the agenda, this has been going on too long.

1626
02:49:04.050 --> 02:49:05.880
melissadiner: I have been pressing.

1627
02:49:06.030 --> 02:49:07.800
melissadiner: yeah go ahead, we can we limit.

1628
02:49:08.130 --> 02:49:11.010
melissadiner: board comment to one comment per person.

1629
02:49:11.250 --> 02:49:19.710
Daffodil Tyminski: No, no, Melissa um can can we move to postpone this is there a time sensitivity leaks, because I just feel like there are some unanswered questions.

1630
02:49:20.040 --> 02:49:27.990
Alix Gucovsky: Oh, there is a there is a time sensitivity Jeff because this already went through city hearing and we were supposed to hear it in the November board meeting.

1631
02:49:28.530 --> 02:49:41.580
Alix Gucovsky: um I mean I can certainly right to Julia and and sienna and tell them that the board felt there were a lot of unanswered questions and they'd like to postpone until December, but I don't I don't know what they'll say.

1632
02:49:43.320 --> 02:49:56.400
james murez: I think Julia will say yes, I think we should probably do that great I don't think that you know they've been operating the way they've been operating for many years there's they're not pending doing any kind of demolition there's no particular rush.

1633
02:49:57.780 --> 02:49:58.440
james murez: In my opinion.

1634
02:50:04.890 --> 02:50:06.780
james murez: So definitely you want to make that motion.

1635
02:50:07.470 --> 02:50:20.790
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah yeah just I just have a curious about the operating our some i'm just not clear on that still so i'd like to make a motion to postpone this total of December agenda, so we can have some further inquiry into to their operations.

1636
02:50:22.440 --> 02:50:23.670
Alix Gucovsky: To loop huck sorry.

1637
02:50:24.810 --> 02:50:27.000
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah let's send it back to pack.

1638
02:50:27.540 --> 02:50:29.220
james murez: He did anybody want a second that motion.

1639
02:50:29.850 --> 02:50:31.320
clark brown: Second, like.

1640
02:50:31.560 --> 02:50:32.520
james murez: Who is that Clark.

1641
02:50:32.610 --> 02:50:32.850
clark brown: yeah.

1642
02:50:32.910 --> 02:50:33.600
james murez: i'll say oh.

1643
02:50:33.840 --> 02:50:35.940
james murez: Very good, thank you Clark okay.

1644
02:50:37.080 --> 02:50:37.770
james murez: All those.

1645
02:50:39.330 --> 02:50:43.050
james murez: No, actually, we have to take a roll call vote, Melissa take a roll call vote, please.

1646
02:50:47.160 --> 02:50:47.850
james murez: Yes.

1647
02:50:49.290 --> 02:50:49.950
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

1648
02:50:51.930 --> 02:50:53.280
melissadiner: No leaks.

1649
02:50:54.210 --> 02:50:55.800
Alix Gucovsky: And abstain.

1650
02:51:02.070 --> 02:51:02.550
melissadiner: vicki.

1651
02:51:02.880 --> 02:51:03.330
Yes.

1652
02:51:05.910 --> 02:51:06.270
ElizabethClay: No.

1653
02:51:09.330 --> 02:51:09.810
soledad ursua: No.

1654
02:51:22.860 --> 02:51:26.640
James Robb: Approving the motion to move this back to loop that correct.

1655
02:51:27.300 --> 02:51:28.140
clark brown: Correct yes.

1656
02:51:28.500 --> 02:51:29.910
James Robb: Okay i'll say yes.

1657
02:51:30.210 --> 02:51:30.840
nika.

1658
02:51:32.880 --> 02:51:33.390
Nico Ruderman: know.

1659
02:51:34.620 --> 02:51:35.100
melissadiner: Clark.

1660
02:51:35.400 --> 02:51:36.000
Yes.

1661
02:51:40.920 --> 02:51:41.460
robertthibodeau: Though.

1662
02:51:43.020 --> 02:51:44.040
Bruno Hernandez: Yes.

1663
02:51:48.870 --> 02:51:49.320
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

1664
02:51:49.980 --> 02:51:50.520
cj.

1665
02:51:54.330 --> 02:51:54.930
melissadiner: cj.

1666
02:51:55.710 --> 02:51:56.250
cj.

1667
02:51:58.890 --> 02:51:59.460
CJ Cole: Yes.

1668
02:52:00.090 --> 02:52:01.470
Oliver Fries: Oliver oh.

1669
02:52:04.050 --> 02:52:05.580
melissadiner: Jason sugars.

1670
02:52:06.060 --> 02:52:06.870
Yes.

1671
02:52:08.010 --> 02:52:08.520
melissadiner: hi.

1672
02:52:09.060 --> 02:52:09.690
No.

1673
02:52:12.150 --> 02:52:12.870
No.

1674
02:52:26.130 --> 02:52:26.730
James Robb: The account.

1675
02:52:26.820 --> 02:52:28.020
981.

1676
02:52:29.670 --> 02:52:33.270
james murez: So the motion carries it goes back to loop back let's move on with the agenda.

1677
02:52:35.340 --> 02:52:40.680
james murez: If you need help with getting a letter out to Julio Oh, let me know I can support you on that.

1678
02:52:42.600 --> 02:52:45.930
james murez: Next 110 be you want to read that one.

1679
02:52:48.210 --> 02:52:48.600
james murez: A leak.

1680
02:52:50.070 --> 02:52:52.020
Alix Gucovsky: Sorry sorry sorry i'm.

1681
02:52:53.730 --> 02:52:57.180
Alix Gucovsky: TIM be sorry Jim can you make that a little bigger for me.

1682
02:52:57.360 --> 02:52:59.130
Alix Gucovsky: Sure, thank you.

1683
02:52:59.310 --> 02:53:00.720
james murez: what's really big on my screen.

1684
02:53:01.470 --> 02:53:03.450
Okay.

1685
02:53:04.650 --> 02:53:10.680
Alix Gucovsky: This is just a an emotion is the Venice neighborhood Council recommends approval of the project as presented.

1686
02:53:12.750 --> 02:53:16.050
james murez: want to describe what's being presented it says, our case description.

1687
02:53:16.800 --> 02:53:25.620
Alix Gucovsky: And the case description is a CFP for the sale and service and full line of alcohol for onsite consumption with an existing bakery retail restaurant motion.

1688
02:53:26.100 --> 02:53:27.570
james murez: Thank you do I hear a second.

1689
02:53:29.880 --> 02:53:31.080
Vicki Halliday: i'll second it vicki.

1690
02:53:31.500 --> 02:53:32.280
james murez: Thank you Vicky.

1691
02:53:33.360 --> 02:53:34.620
james murez: let's take public comment.

1692
02:53:36.000 --> 02:53:40.410
james murez: Everybody raise your hand that wants to speak on this and let's stay on topic, if at all possible.

1693
02:53:42.060 --> 02:53:44.100
james murez: like the last speaker will be Mr garvey.

1694
02:53:45.840 --> 02:53:47.040
Daffodil Tyminski: Do you want me to call him.

1695
02:53:47.700 --> 02:53:49.140
james murez: You can or I will I don't eat your way.

1696
02:53:50.700 --> 02:53:52.470
Daffodil Tyminski: Up to 713 go ahead.

1697
02:53:59.970 --> 02:54:00.120
The.

1698
02:54:01.620 --> 02:54:03.090
1561****713: evening and they did not.

1699
02:54:04.140 --> 02:54:12.660
1561****713: speak about the two homeless men who were lit on fire instead they chose to equate receive hottest topic when you want to talk about the sunset.

1700
02:54:12.660 --> 02:54:14.580
1561****713: Projects I wish.

1701
02:54:15.540 --> 02:54:20.850
Daffodil Tyminski: All right, well muting you go puppet go ahead, please everyone stay on topic we're on this item.

1702
02:54:29.580 --> 02:54:32.550
james murez: goes puppet you need to unmute yourself if you want to speak tonight.

1703
02:54:38.250 --> 02:54:41.370
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I mean go public we're gonna move on.

1704
02:54:42.510 --> 02:54:44.250
james murez: Well, why don't we leave in there we'll come back.

1705
02:54:45.210 --> 02:54:47.040
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay 920 go ahead.

1706
02:54:50.400 --> 02:54:51.870
Daffodil Tyminski: You have to unmute yourself.

1707
02:54:52.950 --> 02:54:56.490
james murez: star nine 920 if you want to speak starting on.

1708
02:54:59.760 --> 02:55:03.030
Daffodil Tyminski: 920 has now lowered their hand.

1709
02:55:03.120 --> 02:55:08.100
james murez: And backup they gotta press star nine on your phone, or is it star six I think it's starting on.

1710
02:55:10.980 --> 02:55:13.530
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay kyle rittenhouse we are.

1711
02:55:15.300 --> 02:55:16.200
Daffodil Tyminski: going to you.

1712
02:55:19.410 --> 02:55:19.860
1310****920: Hello.

1713
02:55:21.000 --> 02:55:23.280
1310****920: Go ahead you hear me.

1714
02:55:23.880 --> 02:55:24.690
1310****920: yeah you.

1715
02:55:24.780 --> 02:55:27.390
Daffodil Tyminski: Please limit your comments to the on topic of.

1716
02:55:27.660 --> 02:55:31.950
james murez: The deals at 920 that's the telephone number 920 speaking go ahead.

1717
02:55:32.790 --> 02:55:43.170
1310****920: You guys cut me off before I kept trying to get on and I press star nine it just took my hands down and put them back up and you're giving out information to talk to.

1718
02:55:46.980 --> 02:55:47.820
Go ahead and make it.

1719
02:55:49.020 --> 02:55:55.320
1310****920: Well, the camera was I was hearing you talking about the parking situations down and the different areas.

1720
02:55:56.490 --> 02:56:07.860
1310****920: And the zoning and how that, like, for example, they want to turn turn of the different use to the restaurant well that's kind of what's happening in my neighborhood I live on.

1721
02:56:08.190 --> 02:56:10.830
Daffodil Tyminski: Monday, we are talking about a project on 320.

1722
02:56:10.830 --> 02:56:14.340
Daffodil Tyminski: rows if your comment is not the 320 rows then.

1723
02:56:14.910 --> 02:56:15.960
james murez: 320 sunset.

1724
02:56:16.410 --> 02:56:17.730
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sorry 320 sunset.

1725
02:56:17.760 --> 02:56:20.190
Andrea Boccaletti: is talking about that he's just making a reference.

1726
02:56:20.790 --> 02:56:21.960
james murez: Know Andre.

1727
02:56:22.020 --> 02:56:32.100
1310****920: Just is what i'm saying this is what's been done what they applied for, and said when you said that they are changing us.

1728
02:56:32.580 --> 02:56:48.000
1310****920: yeah That was a desk project, I know, but that's how the developers, the same thing here they put up two buildings with four bedrooms and then I called zoning because they least my apologies, are just off.

1729
02:56:49.260 --> 02:56:50.070
1310****920: Your mama.

1730
02:56:50.640 --> 02:56:51.780
1310****920: Your off topic, sir.

1731
02:56:51.780 --> 02:56:53.100
Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry i'm.

1732
02:56:56.580 --> 02:57:00.660
Daffodil Tyminski: Margaret Margaret will stay on topic I know she will go ahead, Margaret.

1733
02:57:02.310 --> 02:57:15.900
Margaret Molloy: I certainly will say I think you all know that this guy came in under the premise of the bakery it was for one lot this is for three lots there was a lot tie off with David in.

1734
02:57:15.900 --> 02:57:19.980
2015.

1735
02:57:24.900 --> 02:57:30.570
Daffodil Tyminski: Wait Andre I think you need to I don't know with Margaret what she is.

1736
02:57:31.590 --> 02:57:32.040
Nico Ruderman: herself.

1737
02:57:32.640 --> 02:57:36.150
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I don't know sorry go ahead, we heard it was a baker in 2015.

1738
02:57:36.720 --> 02:57:47.460
Margaret Molloy: It was a bakery 14 without any public outreach you more morphed into a restaurant, then he finally got approval in 2016 for the restaurant.

1739
02:57:47.880 --> 02:57:56.100
Margaret Molloy: With a condition that he closed within 30 days of the issues of the written determination and close the rear patio because it was a mitigation condition.

1740
02:57:56.520 --> 02:58:11.940
Margaret Molloy: it's within 15 feet of residential property he did, none of it, then he went came in 2020 got a permanent which says no new floor area no enclosed outdoor dining know enclosure, no, no new floor area inexplicably got a.

1741
02:58:13.050 --> 02:58:25.860
Margaret Molloy: certificate of occupancy for that with outdoor dining areas as an accessory restaurant news and now he wants a full CB this guy's a serial violator it's in a very tight little.

1742
02:58:26.520 --> 02:58:42.240
Margaret Molloy: residential neighborhood he has impacted the neighbors with noise, traffic, you know all kinds of things and he didn't give any concern, because he has never engaged in the appropriate public process, please do not approve this Thank you.

1743
02:58:42.690 --> 02:58:43.440
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks for it.

1744
02:58:44.730 --> 02:58:46.260
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay Lisa redman.

1745
02:58:47.550 --> 02:58:48.120
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

1746
02:58:49.320 --> 02:58:55.230
Lisa Redmond: yeah on top of what Margaret brought up about this guy being an awful dirty serial violator.

1747
02:58:55.620 --> 02:59:08.130
Lisa Redmond: Permit violator, this is an absolute wrong place let's say the guy was totally legal and everything he did a Co op is going to bring more business and more deliveries, I find this very interesting after the last motion.

1748
02:59:09.090 --> 02:59:20.370
Lisa Redmond: This intersection this T intersection where third comes into sunset is so incredibly busy it even demands a stop sign, but it doesn't have it.

1749
02:59:20.910 --> 02:59:29.610
Lisa Redmond: The delivery trucks right there park all the time on sunset in the middle of third in the middle of that intersection the the.

1750
02:59:30.360 --> 02:59:36.240
Lisa Redmond: door dash drivers in the post mates and uber eats park all over and double park they're running in and out.

1751
02:59:37.170 --> 02:59:40.860
Lisa Redmond: Normal traffic and get by plus there's tons of pedestrians between.

1752
02:59:41.460 --> 02:59:54.540
Lisa Redmond: The a homeless people that live there and the gold's gym people going from the parking lots of the gold's gym people drive rushing around the trucks and I it's amazing to me that more and more people don't get hit there and pedestrians.

1753
02:59:55.110 --> 02:59:55.560
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

1754
02:59:56.490 --> 02:59:59.730
Lisa Redmond: More customers and more traffic we don't need that.

1755
03:00:00.360 --> 03:00:01.140
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Lisa.

1756
03:00:02.700 --> 03:00:03.330
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm.

1757
03:00:04.950 --> 03:00:07.080
Daffodil Tyminski: A cow rittenhouse are you there.

1758
03:00:10.530 --> 03:00:24.900
Kyle Ritenhaus: By go yeah I know truck driver, I can tell yeah park in the middle of the intersection shop park wherever alone well that's going to be a real problem for y'all now.

1759
03:00:25.470 --> 03:00:35.910
Kyle Ritenhaus: If you approve the project i'm just going to park and middle son shit anytime I want you block y'all off so that's what you want.

1760
03:00:36.480 --> 03:00:53.850
Kyle Ritenhaus: i'll deliver because when I get my truck filled with all the shit that I have to deliver i'm going to deliver wherever they are, I don't care if it's in your backyard I don't care, but it's in an alley my job is done unload and reload and get it out of there.

1761
03:00:54.480 --> 03:00:58.680
Daffodil Tyminski: So I teach a class you sound awfully like go puppet kenosha.

1762
03:00:59.970 --> 03:01:11.490
Kyle Ritenhaus: I don't know about that I don't know what what this puppet it what kind of puppet is that I don't understand i'm i'm talking to people here I don't.

1763
03:01:11.490 --> 03:01:14.790
Daffodil Tyminski: All right, well we're on the sunset project Thank you kyle.

1764
03:01:15.870 --> 03:01:17.340
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm rick garvey go ahead.

1765
03:01:22.320 --> 03:01:25.110
Rick Garvey: Everything that Margaret said, and everything that Lisa said.

1766
03:01:25.590 --> 03:01:35.640
Rick Garvey: I went to all these meetings when he first proposed this project, it was going to be a bakery he swore up and down there would be no dine in there would be no expansion.

1767
03:01:36.000 --> 03:01:44.130
Rick Garvey: And he was approved and then, of course, the first thing he did was expand the next thing he did was put in dine in and he claimed oh there's never going to be any alcohol.

1768
03:01:44.490 --> 03:01:51.960
Rick Garvey: And I don't know if you remember a lot of them around he was crazy about this project and trying to get all the neighbors to sign because there shouldn't be.

1769
03:01:52.230 --> 03:01:57.390
Rick Garvey: Any more alcohol in that block and he said we don't have to worry about that we're never going to ask for alcohol.

1770
03:01:57.750 --> 03:02:02.280
Rick Garvey: i've been counting the days until this day would come, because we all knew he was lying them.

1771
03:02:02.550 --> 03:02:09.120
Rick Garvey: We know he's going to say whatever he can to get this thing approved I can't believe it got approved unanimously through Lou pack, but I guess I should have been.

1772
03:02:09.420 --> 03:02:16.230
Rick Garvey: Please oppose this this guy's terrible for the Community and this particular project would be terrible for that neighborhood Thank you.

1773
03:02:18.870 --> 03:02:19.500
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks for.

1774
03:02:22.590 --> 03:02:26.670
Daffodil Tyminski: Public let's move on, we are closing public comment um.

1775
03:02:26.940 --> 03:02:31.620
james murez: yeah let me, let me keep going keep things going Melissa you have your hand up go ahead, please.

1776
03:02:35.640 --> 03:02:41.790
james murez: nope I guess your hand went out Jim rob you well you're not sitting there i'm not going to call it Andre go ahead, you have your hand up.

1777
03:02:42.870 --> 03:02:52.950
Andrea Boccaletti: yeah it just you know, based on the common thing we need to be giving people the right information So what is it is it star nine is it star six to speak.

1778
03:02:53.400 --> 03:02:54.060
james murez: It star nine.

1779
03:02:54.600 --> 03:02:56.550
Andrea Boccaletti: It star nine star nine to raise your hand.

1780
03:02:56.580 --> 03:03:01.350
james murez: Well, we also don't have any way to control his hand going up and down that's something he had to do.

1781
03:03:02.220 --> 03:03:03.870
james murez: down, but we can't put it up for.

1782
03:03:04.110 --> 03:03:06.870
Andrea Boccaletti: That star nine to raise your hand and starting to speak.

1783
03:03:06.990 --> 03:03:13.260
james murez: know it star six to raise your hand I know it's star night star nine to raise your hand it says it at the beginning of.

1784
03:03:13.260 --> 03:03:14.130
Andrea Boccaletti: The end to speak.

1785
03:03:15.420 --> 03:03:20.880
Andrea Boccaletti: There should be telling people this the correct information yeah having people out of the Community.

1786
03:03:21.420 --> 03:03:24.870
melissadiner: We probably can just Google it, it probably just use zoom it.

1787
03:03:25.290 --> 03:03:25.710
melissadiner: it's on.

1788
03:03:26.550 --> 03:03:29.130
james murez: it's on page one of the agenda star nine.

1789
03:03:34.050 --> 03:03:36.390
james murez: Thank you see my go ahead.

1790
03:03:39.120 --> 03:03:39.840
james murez: You gotta unmute.

1791
03:03:40.860 --> 03:03:41.490
james murez: chatter.

1792
03:03:42.210 --> 03:03:42.870
So.

1793
03:03:44.340 --> 03:03:54.390
Sima Kostovetsky: I work out in that area, quite often at gold's gym I think juicer has been and continues to be a boon for that neighborhood and a boon for that community.

1794
03:03:55.590 --> 03:03:58.770
Sima Kostovetsky: I have not had any issues parking there.

1795
03:04:00.450 --> 03:04:08.850
Sima Kostovetsky: And if I remember correctly, they really have a liquor license because they can serve wine and beer every they've been able to so.

1796
03:04:10.170 --> 03:04:19.260
Sima Kostovetsky: yeah that that just for safety reasons, I think there are an important part of that neighborhood, so I would urge you to support that.

1797
03:04:19.740 --> 03:04:31.770
james murez: Thank you yeah I think a leaks forgot to mention that this was a renewal of an existing see you be additional use permit it's not it's not the ABC license, this is the go ahead elites, you want to have your hand up yeah.

1798
03:04:32.580 --> 03:04:44.880
Alix Gucovsky: um I just want to say something you know I I I hear a lot about this business being demonized and I still happen to know this business has employed a lot of local Venice.

1799
03:04:45.630 --> 03:04:58.080
Alix Gucovsky: kids that have gotten their starts there that have gone on to do other things kids that might not have been hired elsewhere seen it kids from broken homes kids that needed a chance and.

1800
03:04:59.550 --> 03:05:09.180
Alix Gucovsky: that's a great thing for local businesses to do and i'd like to see more of them do that, and I think when we think about this, we should we should think about not just as a service as a restaurant and.

1801
03:05:09.480 --> 03:05:14.670
Alix Gucovsky: And what they provide, but what they also do for the local kids in the Community, so I will be supporting us.

1802
03:05:15.930 --> 03:05:19.290
james murez: Thank you i'm vicki you have your hand up go ahead, please.

1803
03:05:21.810 --> 03:05:33.090
Vicki Halliday: yeah I mean now that I know it's a renewal um and nothing additional is coming with this permit, then I will, I will vote for this, I had it been a change.

1804
03:05:33.660 --> 03:05:45.870
Vicki Halliday: To a full liquor license and getting a bar in there, I would have a problem, because as Lisa and several other people mentioned it's a very congested area, day and night.

1805
03:05:46.500 --> 03:05:57.330
Vicki Halliday: And I don't think he's got the parking I don't think he's got anything else to expand, if this is a simple renewal of what he already has been fine, but that was made clear.

1806
03:05:57.540 --> 03:06:00.810
james murez: yeah let me, let me make it clear, the original.

1807
03:06:01.050 --> 03:06:01.830
Alix Gucovsky: clarify that.

1808
03:06:02.310 --> 03:06:03.720
james murez: yeah if you want to go ahead.

1809
03:06:04.050 --> 03:06:11.670
Alix Gucovsky: yeah so he had applied for CV and it was a lapsed, and this is just a renewal of the existing CV that had been filed.

1810
03:06:13.230 --> 03:06:15.030
Vicki Halliday: But there's this gonna be.

1811
03:06:16.440 --> 03:06:21.000
Vicki Halliday: A whole new liquor license I mean is he going to be able to turn that patio into a bar.

1812
03:06:23.280 --> 03:06:30.810
Alix Gucovsky: No our understanding is the attendance, just to be able to serve right now, if you want wine, you have to bring your own wine there, they cannot serve one.

1813
03:06:31.080 --> 03:06:31.590
Vicki Halliday: Right is it.

1814
03:06:31.770 --> 03:06:35.910
Alix Gucovsky: That you can serve wine and liquor while you're eating your food.

1815
03:06:37.770 --> 03:06:41.520
Daffodil Tyminski: But that's isn't that because the CV laughs, not because they never had it.

1816
03:06:41.700 --> 03:06:47.100
Daffodil Tyminski: Correct yeah it's just that's just a timing issue it's not a permitting issue per se.

1817
03:06:47.400 --> 03:06:47.880
Alix Gucovsky: that's correct.

1818
03:06:48.390 --> 03:06:48.780
Okay.

1819
03:06:50.760 --> 03:06:59.160
james murez: Okay i'm vicki you can put your hand down did we have any other hands up Melissa your hand went back up did you want to speak on the item you gotta unmute Melissa.

1820
03:07:05.070 --> 03:07:06.990
james murez: got the screens jumping around Melissa.

1821
03:07:12.660 --> 03:07:12.930
james murez: Okay.

1822
03:07:12.960 --> 03:07:13.950
melissadiner: I don't want to speak.

1823
03:07:14.040 --> 03:07:17.580
james murez: Okay, seeing no other other hands up Melissa stick about.

1824
03:07:17.910 --> 03:07:19.230
james murez: Jim yes.

1825
03:07:19.380 --> 03:07:19.950
melissadiner: that's it oh.

1826
03:07:20.430 --> 03:07:20.940
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

1827
03:07:21.000 --> 03:07:22.260
melissadiner: I vote yes, the leaks.

1828
03:07:25.410 --> 03:07:25.950
melissadiner: leaks.

1829
03:07:26.790 --> 03:07:30.720
james murez: Her screen, what did enter she's muted I don't know, maybe she's not there, why don't you come to.

1830
03:07:30.780 --> 03:07:32.130
Vicki Halliday: me yes.

1831
03:07:35.340 --> 03:07:35.940
ElizabethClay: Yes.

1832
03:07:37.200 --> 03:07:37.770
soledad ursua: Yes.

1833
03:07:38.010 --> 03:07:39.990
melissadiner: James rob.

1834
03:07:42.060 --> 03:07:42.750
melissadiner: James rob.

1835
03:07:44.820 --> 03:07:46.170
james murez: He says he was muted.

1836
03:07:46.350 --> 03:07:46.590
me.

1837
03:07:51.420 --> 03:07:52.530
Sima Kostovetsky: me Carlos to close.

1838
03:07:54.180 --> 03:07:57.060
melissadiner: me go is recused Clark.

1839
03:07:57.390 --> 03:07:57.930
Yes.

1840
03:08:00.630 --> 03:08:01.140
robertthibodeau: Yes.

1841
03:08:01.740 --> 03:08:02.220
melissadiner: or no.

1842
03:08:02.490 --> 03:08:03.060
Yes.

1843
03:08:04.230 --> 03:08:05.610
melissadiner: Yes, tj.

1844
03:08:06.090 --> 03:08:06.750
No.

1845
03:08:14.130 --> 03:08:14.610
Oliver Fries: Yes.

1846
03:08:14.820 --> 03:08:16.950
Jason Sugars: Jason no.

1847
03:08:17.760 --> 03:08:19.620
Chie Lunn: hi yes.

1848
03:08:21.810 --> 03:08:22.200
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

1849
03:08:22.950 --> 03:08:24.930
melissadiner: And is the leaks back.

1850
03:08:26.640 --> 03:08:30.780
james murez: i'm a leaks are you back what else you're anywhere now.

1851
03:08:31.860 --> 03:08:33.930
James Robb: Up tech Center but I can't get her.

1852
03:08:34.200 --> 03:08:35.310
melissadiner: If we can move on.

1853
03:08:35.610 --> 03:08:38.760
james murez: Let me just let me just quickly look at the panelists list.

1854
03:08:46.050 --> 03:08:47.850
it's not as a panelist.

1855
03:08:54.060 --> 03:08:57.210
james murez: yeah I don't see it as an attendee either leaks if you're out there, raise your hand.

1856
03:08:58.830 --> 03:09:01.620
james murez: Okay let's move on, do we have a vote.

1857
03:09:03.990 --> 03:09:05.910
james murez: tally Melissa.

1858
03:09:12.600 --> 03:09:16.230
melissadiner: 14 to yeah Thank you.

1859
03:09:17.220 --> 03:09:18.240
james murez: Motion carries.

1860
03:09:20.220 --> 03:09:26.610
james murez: let's move on now, so now we are on to new business Robert you're up.

1861
03:09:31.320 --> 03:09:31.770
james murez: Robert.

1862
03:09:32.160 --> 03:09:33.090
robertthibodeau: yeah i'm trying.

1863
03:09:33.210 --> 03:09:34.740
james murez: Okay it's on the screen.

1864
03:09:36.510 --> 03:09:38.670
robertthibodeau: Okay um.

1865
03:09:40.140 --> 03:09:56.340
robertthibodeau: Well, the motion, whereas Venice communities seen a substantial loss of use of sidewalks and roadways and increase in crime due to cessation of parking enforcement, whereas the coven 19 emergency is now matured and procedures are in place to control it.

1866
03:09:56.730 --> 03:10:09.450
robertthibodeau: Within the greater Los Angeles area, and whereas parking enforcement should be restored resolved at the dnc request that the existing parking street camping and sidewalk fearing laws be enforced in Venice.

1867
03:10:10.650 --> 03:10:12.870
robertthibodeau: So I think that kind of speaks for itself.

1868
03:10:14.220 --> 03:10:16.200
james murez: Thank you that's the motion do we have a second.

1869
03:10:17.940 --> 03:10:19.350
Daffodil Tyminski: it's a second it.

1870
03:10:19.650 --> 03:10:20.010
james murez: Okay.

1871
03:10:20.040 --> 03:10:21.270
clark brown: And I just for the record.

1872
03:10:21.660 --> 03:10:22.320
james murez: A weeks has been.

1873
03:10:23.700 --> 03:10:24.630
james murez: Two panelists.

1874
03:10:26.400 --> 03:10:27.510
robertthibodeau: Welcome back leaks.

1875
03:10:27.690 --> 03:10:29.820
Alix Gucovsky: Thanks Jim Sir keep getting booted.

1876
03:10:29.880 --> 03:10:30.750
james murez: yeah that's right.

1877
03:10:31.020 --> 03:10:32.700
robertthibodeau: I got booted did yeah.

1878
03:10:32.760 --> 03:10:33.480
james murez: It happens.

1879
03:10:36.600 --> 03:10:36.930
james murez: Okay.

1880
03:10:36.960 --> 03:10:38.160
let's do public comment.

1881
03:10:40.290 --> 03:10:54.120
james murez: Do we have any raised hands looks like we have five raised hands six raise hands Tracy park is the last one now we're still going rick garvey is the last one well boy, we have 10 raise hands 10 more minutes okay.

1882
03:10:55.320 --> 03:10:59.820
james murez: It doesn't need to be said, or somebody said it before you please do not take all your time.

1883
03:11:01.350 --> 03:11:03.000
james murez: That little do you want to do this, or do you want me to.

1884
03:11:03.330 --> 03:11:18.000
Daffodil Tyminski: Know i'll do it, we just added Margaret Margaret here we're gonna let you do it, but that's it we're done with Margaret we've got Margaret rick 920 Erica Lisa Tracy Helen kyle good puppet Sean o'brien and 713 and we're closing public comment.

1885
03:11:18.300 --> 03:11:18.660
melissadiner: Can we.

1886
03:11:19.230 --> 03:11:19.950
melissadiner: roll out.

1887
03:11:20.010 --> 03:11:23.430
melissadiner: Or have an alarm when i'm when the minute is up, please.

1888
03:11:24.270 --> 03:11:24.690
james murez: Well i'm.

1889
03:11:25.170 --> 03:11:25.830
Daffodil Tyminski: on the screen.

1890
03:11:26.160 --> 03:11:32.820
Andrea Boccaletti: Lucy you do with the alarm now okay i'm telling people that they're done got it on the screen I don't know what else.

1891
03:11:33.060 --> 03:11:34.950
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah Andrea is monitoring and Melissa.

1892
03:11:36.960 --> 03:11:43.350
Daffodil Tyminski: were up 713 go ahead, please stay on topic if you're not on topic we're just going to mute you and move on.

1893
03:11:48.630 --> 03:11:56.430
1561****713: Go ahead 7132 houses in Venice were on fire, right now, at 10:05pm cut them.

1894
03:11:56.460 --> 03:11:57.750
All right, we're muting you.

1895
03:11:58.770 --> 03:12:00.090
Daffodil Tyminski: shauna Brian go ahead.

1896
03:12:02.040 --> 03:12:09.600
sean obrien: Yes, hi guys thanks I support the motion I know we have 50 Council districts, the only one that has not had.

1897
03:12:10.800 --> 03:12:24.330
sean obrien: taken advantage of the new law that the city pass through his CD 11 uh we definitely got to do something about all the movies, that are parking to allow visitor access let the tourist park support the motion, thank you.

1898
03:12:25.230 --> 03:12:26.250
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Sean.

1899
03:12:27.330 --> 03:12:28.560
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm good puppet.

1900
03:12:30.180 --> 03:12:30.840
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

1901
03:12:39.420 --> 03:12:40.980
james murez: Under this other identity oh.

1902
03:12:41.040 --> 03:12:41.490
james murez: yeah.

1903
03:12:41.580 --> 03:12:42.390
There you go sorry.

1904
03:12:43.950 --> 03:12:47.610
Goat puppet Kenosha: So what happened, I unmuted you okay.

1905
03:12:50.340 --> 03:13:09.240
Goat puppet Kenosha: This is something go up, but just a lot more like, on the other hand, he hates it because it's gonna clean up bombs off the streets and allow the productive and the mentally competent to use this sidewalks and streets.

1906
03:13:10.500 --> 03:13:15.660
Goat puppet Kenosha: holy shit that has a real job topic oh good Lord me.

1907
03:13:15.960 --> 03:13:19.290
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm about to roll you for your colorful language, though, so keep it on the road.

1908
03:13:19.380 --> 03:13:21.720
Goat puppet Kenosha: me the email help that I said.

1909
03:13:21.750 --> 03:13:23.850
Daffodil Tyminski: All right, we're gonna mute you go puppet.

1910
03:13:24.060 --> 03:13:24.870
Goat puppet Kenosha: What the.

1911
03:13:29.400 --> 03:13:31.860
Daffodil Tyminski: cow rittenhouse please keep it clean.

1912
03:13:44.610 --> 03:13:45.120
Daffodil Tyminski: All right.

1913
03:13:47.640 --> 03:13:50.940
Daffodil Tyminski: We don't hear you Helen fallon why don't you go next.

1914
03:13:54.510 --> 03:14:07.380
Helen Fallon: I support the motion, I would like to remind you that you've had a number of emotions that have dealt with this issue, and you have passable, so I would think it doesn't need a whole lot of discussion just Oh yes, and move on.

1915
03:14:07.710 --> 03:14:08.340
james murez: Thank you.

1916
03:14:09.270 --> 03:14:09.600
Thanks.

1917
03:14:11.010 --> 03:14:12.660
Daffodil Tyminski: Tracy park go ahead.

1918
03:14:20.130 --> 03:14:20.760
Daffodil Tyminski: Tracy.

1919
03:14:21.870 --> 03:14:31.920
Traci Park: hi sorry took a minute there, so the covered pandemic is no longer and emergency the moratorium on parking enforcement needs to be lifted and forth motion thanks.

1920
03:14:32.670 --> 03:14:33.300
james murez: Thank you.

1921
03:14:34.050 --> 03:14:34.890
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much.

1922
03:14:35.910 --> 03:14:37.650
Daffodil Tyminski: And Lisa redmond go ahead.

1923
03:14:40.620 --> 03:14:51.180
Lisa Redmond: yeah, we all know what this motion is it's basically emotion that says get rid of all the House people and sweep them away in any way possible it's just a motion to criminalize people.

1924
03:14:51.480 --> 03:14:58.200
Lisa Redmond: as best we can, to solve the problem, but we all know that criminalization of getting rid of people doesn't solve.

1925
03:14:58.590 --> 03:14:59.370
Vicki Halliday: The human.

1926
03:14:59.700 --> 03:15:01.680
Lisa Redmond: The prices that we're experiencing right now.

1927
03:15:02.040 --> 03:15:14.850
Lisa Redmond: What why aren't we putting in the motion as well let's get some housing for people let's get street engagement teams there to access people get them into housing before we enforce all these laws, because.

1928
03:15:15.390 --> 03:15:26.010
Lisa Redmond: Otherwise you're just moving them over down the street, nothing is getting solved, please you know think logically obviously you're not but i'm just gonna put it out there, thank you.

1929
03:15:27.510 --> 03:15:28.560
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks a lot Lisa.

1930
03:15:29.490 --> 03:15:31.410
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Erica more go ahead.

1931
03:15:33.930 --> 03:15:46.200
Erica Moore: hi i'm I am in favor of supporting the parking enforcement when we're close to school and I especially with schools and with businesses, thank you.

1932
03:15:47.940 --> 03:15:53.760
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Erica i'm okay i'm 920 go ahead.

1933
03:16:03.450 --> 03:16:08.550
james murez: telephone number ending in 920, this is the last call you want to speak you got to press star nine.

1934
03:16:14.190 --> 03:16:16.050
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay regard we go ahead.

1935
03:16:18.480 --> 03:16:22.830
Rick Garvey: yeah I post this motion and I hope you will too I think it's really poorly written.

1936
03:16:23.280 --> 03:16:33.450
Rick Garvey: So there's been an increase in crime, due to the cessation of parking enforcement we just heard lapd tell us how much crime is down along the beach and along the boardwalk.

1937
03:16:33.780 --> 03:16:44.880
Rick Garvey: And around rich housing, and the reason for that is because Mike bond and did a terrific job outreach and getting the encampments cleaned up he didn't need to use and he shouldn't use.

1938
03:16:46.080 --> 03:16:57.450
Rick Garvey: we're really lucky to have a Council member who understands best practices when it comes to getting people off the street, because as we're going to see and other parts of the city that start utilizing 41 at.

1939
03:16:57.870 --> 03:17:06.990
Rick Garvey: All it's going to do is send homeless people to jail take all their belongings away it's going to do nothing to solve the problem, I think this is a terrible motion and I hope you oppose it.

1940
03:17:08.370 --> 03:17:09.030
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

1941
03:17:10.800 --> 03:17:16.890
Daffodil Tyminski: Margaret um you are last public comments go ahead.

1942
03:17:18.000 --> 03:17:28.770
Margaret Molloy: So it's interesting that the emotion, with the title resumption of parking enforcement talks about the substantial loss of these the sidewalks what does that have to do with parking.

1943
03:17:29.250 --> 03:17:41.850
Margaret Molloy: So it's just a very anti unhealthy and it's very you know poorly disguised and you know you've taken away parking for alfresco dining and you've taken away visibility on the streets and.

1944
03:17:42.540 --> 03:17:51.750
Margaret Molloy: All kinds of things there's all this commercial furniture and parking has been removed, and none of you have complained about that.

1945
03:17:52.290 --> 03:18:04.740
Margaret Molloy: This is so specifically directed and unfriendly to people and I don't I don't hear this group coming up with solutions for people who are clearly suffering in the Community.

1946
03:18:05.310 --> 03:18:17.940
Margaret Molloy: So I hope you don't support it, I think you know think differently, just think about if it was your family member, because it could be anybody's family member and all these things that are going into place.

1947
03:18:19.110 --> 03:18:23.580
Margaret Molloy: The role where you can't be where you can't exist, but I don't hear anybody.

1948
03:18:24.630 --> 03:18:25.500
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks for.

1949
03:18:26.700 --> 03:18:37.230
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, we are closing public comment I apologize Robin but we'd already called it before you put your hand up well in advance in fact um let's go to avoid comment.

1950
03:18:37.500 --> 03:18:39.480
james murez: Do we have any board, we have a few.

1951
03:18:39.840 --> 03:18:41.610
Daffodil Tyminski: We do have some board comments.

1952
03:18:41.700 --> 03:18:43.830
james murez: Let me run through the go ahead Andre you want to speak.

1953
03:18:45.030 --> 03:18:57.720
Andrea Boccaletti: yeah i'm just answer the questions that some of the people calling in I mean there have been propositions made to our city councilman by Members of this Council and he hasn't listened to them so.

1954
03:18:58.890 --> 03:19:06.750
Andrea Boccaletti: i've listened to i've heard it from many Community stakeholders, they can't walk their kids to school in certain areas anymore.

1955
03:19:07.320 --> 03:19:12.270
Andrea Boccaletti: People don't even go running in certain areas it's just it's unacceptable.

1956
03:19:13.140 --> 03:19:21.900
Andrea Boccaletti: You live here you pay rent you pay taxes it's unacceptable, you cannot use your Community So yes, I agree, I don't want to be unsympathetic to the homeless.

1957
03:19:22.200 --> 03:19:31.560
Andrea Boccaletti: We have to find solutions for them and find safe parking places for them, but they not everywhere and our streets in front of our businesses in front of our schools, we just can't do it.

1958
03:19:32.520 --> 03:19:35.670
james murez: Thank Thank you park your hands up go ahead, please.

1959
03:19:35.790 --> 03:19:44.310
clark brown: Yes, thank you, I support this idea, if you look at the movies, that are parked along rose west of Lincoln.

1960
03:19:45.240 --> 03:19:52.440
clark brown: They are occupying the sidewalks next to them, they overflow on the sidewalks the same thing is true and it's even more dramatic.

1961
03:19:52.800 --> 03:19:57.750
clark brown: And electric and Venice where they've completely taken over the sidewalk between.

1962
03:19:58.260 --> 03:20:12.870
clark brown: The heroin market and electric avenue their toolkit so you have to have parking enforcement, but there are two aspects to this one is to enforce the parking lots The second is is that under the ninth circuit decisions.

1963
03:20:14.070 --> 03:20:23.250
clark brown: In the Boise case they cannot be enforced if you don't provide housing, so you got to do both you got to provide the housing, but you also have to have parking enforcement this.

1964
03:20:24.300 --> 03:20:35.910
clark brown: 12 a only only addresses the parking component it doesn't address the housing component, the housing component has to be handled separately it shouldn't be handled separately, the.

1965
03:20:37.050 --> 03:20:44.370
clark brown: chief of police has issued a memo to swarm personnel, citing.

1966
03:20:46.560 --> 03:20:57.180
clark brown: And, saying they they can be enforced if there's housing, there has to be housing and the problem recognizes that so you have to move on both both fronts.

1967
03:20:57.990 --> 03:20:58.290
james murez: Thank you.

1968
03:20:59.730 --> 03:21:00.870
james murez: Jim rob go ahead, please.

1969
03:21:02.610 --> 03:21:04.410
James Robb: Get out my comment is that.

1970
03:21:05.430 --> 03:21:18.450
James Robb: Like on Main Street in rows down there with all those camping you have you have Google it snapchat that came in here they operate businesses here it's in front of their businesses, I know they.

1971
03:21:18.960 --> 03:21:26.730
James Robb: don't pay a lot of taxes or they don't do a lot of stuff in Venice i'm wondering, you know I know snapchat has empty lost that they still rent.

1972
03:21:27.150 --> 03:21:37.800
James Robb: I know the dirty building down there has parking so I just wonder why some of these tech companies don't open up properties that they actually have with nobody in them to these campers can.

1973
03:21:38.880 --> 03:21:40.080
James Robb: camp on the property.

1974
03:21:41.100 --> 03:21:43.140
James Robb: And that's kind of my question.

1975
03:21:43.500 --> 03:21:46.170
james murez: Thank you, Jim soda go ahead, please.

1976
03:21:46.680 --> 03:21:56.370
soledad ursua: Okay, great um I just want to remind everyone i'm sharing my screen right now that we're elected to represent our stakeholders are Venice Community stakeholders.

1977
03:21:56.760 --> 03:22:01.410
soledad ursua: And we've heard some things recently saying about how there's Community interest stakeholders.

1978
03:22:01.920 --> 03:22:09.510
soledad ursua: Lisa redman brought it up that she's a Community stakeholder she has a organization, but Lisa unless I am not.

1979
03:22:10.170 --> 03:22:21.270
soledad ursua: up today I don't believe that you have a 501 C three designation, which means that you are not a Community organization and educational or nonprofit religious organization.

1980
03:22:21.540 --> 03:22:27.840
soledad ursua: So the people under your umbrella who claim to be stakeholders via your you know your organization.

1981
03:22:28.050 --> 03:22:43.590
soledad ursua: they're not actually Community interest stakeholders so there's a lot of people here today saying that they are coming into stakeholders, which they are not so this is, I want everyone to remember who are we here to represent our own stakeholders, so I am all for this Thank you.

1982
03:22:46.590 --> 03:22:48.300
james murez: Thank you leak.

1983
03:22:50.640 --> 03:22:59.880
Alix Gucovsky: Thanks Jim so I don't think that this is just an Anti are unhealthy population, I want to point out that we had the La triathlon.

1984
03:23:00.750 --> 03:23:10.890
Alix Gucovsky: couple weeks ago and I believe there were 37 cars that were told off of Pacific and Venice, and yet the rv remain there untold.

1985
03:23:11.250 --> 03:23:25.470
Alix Gucovsky: So clearly there's parking enforcement that's going on for some of us and parking enforcement that's not going on for all of us, and it should be applied fairly across the board, I also believe that they're safe.

1986
03:23:26.430 --> 03:23:32.280
Alix Gucovsky: parking sites and the city has established and and my understanding is that most of those have been sitting empty.

1987
03:23:32.730 --> 03:23:47.070
Alix Gucovsky: So I support this motion um I think we need to have our streets back, I think we need enforcement across the board, I would expect the same enforcement that someone with an rv has its own House because that's the way laws are supposed to work.

1988
03:23:48.990 --> 03:23:49.980
james murez: Thank you leaks.

1989
03:23:51.600 --> 03:23:52.350
james murez: kind of go ahead.

1990
03:23:53.130 --> 03:24:03.990
Chie Lunn: just wanted to say that rv is our homes that when you live in rv you're not on House we have motor home parks, we have rv rv parks, where people live happily.

1991
03:24:04.410 --> 03:24:14.700
Chie Lunn: And, speaking from the perspective of someone who goes out with our family four of us in a 16 foot camper with a dog, we live in our camper for sometimes months at a time.

1992
03:24:15.120 --> 03:24:23.460
Chie Lunn: And it is a home, and there are places that we could be motivating people to go to where they have full hookups a parking lot is not a full hookup location.

1993
03:24:23.760 --> 03:24:38.910
Chie Lunn: So there are rv hookup places where they can live for months, at a time, with full hookups and maybe this would be a part of that would be a motivation for people who do have rv is to go live in areas that are conducive to the homes that they have, thank you.

1994
03:24:39.480 --> 03:24:40.170
james murez: Thank you.

1995
03:24:41.670 --> 03:24:42.960
james murez: Melissa you have your hand up.

1996
03:24:45.060 --> 03:24:50.220
melissadiner: Oh yeah I just kind of wanted to echo the same people that live in their cars.

1997
03:24:51.000 --> 03:25:00.810
melissadiner: or or mobile homes even some people, I know that live on the streets in my neighborhood they're respectful their Community members, they contribute their.

1998
03:25:01.200 --> 03:25:16.020
melissadiner: You know, I just want to make sure that some of these scenes the the Rose avenue parking lot I saw someone having a fire there in the parking lot, the other day massive amounts of trash blocking the sideways it's like a scary scene so.

1999
03:25:16.350 --> 03:25:23.970
melissadiner: I think most of us are aligned on that nobody's against people living in their cars or campers as long as they're being respectful.

2000
03:25:25.140 --> 03:25:32.640
james murez: Thank you, oh, I think we need to be moving on so I i'm going to cut up people speaking twice i'm just going to save for the defense of the dnc.

2001
03:25:32.970 --> 03:25:41.340
james murez: We have made several motions in the past that include where there are places where the vehicles can park legally.

2002
03:25:41.940 --> 03:25:56.640
james murez: Both in CD 11 and in other places in the city, there are safe parking programs if they wanted to go there i'm going to support this motion, Melissa let's take a boat wait Jason did you want to say something your hand was up there for a SEC no okay.

2003
03:25:58.200 --> 03:26:01.350
james murez: Melissa go ahead, take a boat yes.

2004
03:26:02.460 --> 03:26:03.270
melissadiner: daffodil.

2005
03:26:03.870 --> 03:26:06.120
melissadiner: Yes, I bought, yes, the leaks.

2006
03:26:07.290 --> 03:26:07.860
Alix Gucovsky: Yes.

2007
03:26:08.220 --> 03:26:09.420
Vicki Halliday: vicki yes.

2008
03:26:09.870 --> 03:26:10.650
melissadiner: Was with clay.

2009
03:26:11.190 --> 03:26:12.630
melissadiner: Yes, Hello dad.

2010
03:26:12.930 --> 03:26:13.950
melissadiner: Yes, James.

2011
03:26:17.340 --> 03:26:18.030
melissadiner: James rob.

2012
03:26:20.040 --> 03:26:20.940
james murez: can't hear you Jim.

2013
03:26:21.150 --> 03:26:21.870
James Robb: Yes.

2014
03:26:22.140 --> 03:26:22.800
You go.

2015
03:26:24.000 --> 03:26:24.510
Nico Ruderman: You guys.

2016
03:26:25.200 --> 03:26:26.580
clark brown: Clark yes.

2017
03:26:27.090 --> 03:26:28.980
robertthibodeau: Robert yes.

2018
03:26:29.040 --> 03:26:29.700
melissadiner: through now.

2019
03:26:29.940 --> 03:26:31.410
melissadiner: Yes, Andrea.

2020
03:26:31.530 --> 03:26:33.570
Bruno Hernandez: Yes, cj yes.

2021
03:26:33.660 --> 03:26:34.260
melissadiner: All of her.

2022
03:26:34.620 --> 03:26:35.880
melissadiner: Yes, Jason.

2023
03:26:36.900 --> 03:26:37.470
Jason Sugars: No.

2024
03:26:38.430 --> 03:26:40.110
Chie Lunn: hi yes.

2025
03:26:40.470 --> 03:26:40.860
nc.

2026
03:26:43.410 --> 03:26:44.460
melissadiner: 17.

2027
03:26:46.560 --> 03:26:47.550
melissadiner: One zero.

2028
03:26:48.960 --> 03:26:50.070
james murez: Thank you, Barbara who.

2029
03:26:50.160 --> 03:26:51.390
melissadiner: Who second of it.

2030
03:26:53.520 --> 03:26:55.410
melissadiner: I think in a second but.

2031
03:26:55.890 --> 03:26:56.970
james murez: It was a week.

2032
03:26:57.570 --> 03:26:58.980
melissadiner: Someone want to just second.

2033
03:26:59.250 --> 03:26:59.490
melissadiner: For the.

2034
03:26:59.610 --> 03:27:00.330
Chie Lunn: Second, that.

2035
03:27:01.170 --> 03:27:01.830
james murez: Was that.

2036
03:27:02.220 --> 03:27:03.150
melissadiner: I think.

2037
03:27:05.490 --> 03:27:06.180
james murez: i'm.

2038
03:27:07.410 --> 03:27:08.640
james murez: Okay 12 be.

2039
03:27:09.930 --> 03:27:11.280
james murez: daffodil this one's yours.

2040
03:27:11.910 --> 03:27:18.960
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, so um as many of you know we live close to the ocean, and we are.

2041
03:27:19.410 --> 03:27:22.650
james murez: Use me, excuse me all we're doing is reading the motion and getting in second.

2042
03:27:24.780 --> 03:27:27.810
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, I can explain this later I think it'll make it more confusing.

2043
03:27:28.980 --> 03:27:36.000
Daffodil Tyminski: The motion is up on the screen it's 1023 the motion is, whereas the Federal Emergency Management Agency fema.

2044
03:27:36.480 --> 03:27:45.060
Daffodil Tyminski: has recently redrawn its flood zone map to include much of Venice, thereby likely requiring that Venice property owners will be required to obtain costly flood insurance.

2045
03:27:45.660 --> 03:27:58.440
Daffodil Tyminski: And, whereas various attempts by Venice residents to address the issue through CD 11 Council office or through the office of our US representative Ted lewin have an unproductive now, therefore.

2046
03:28:00.090 --> 03:28:12.360
Daffodil Tyminski: The Venice neighborhood Council request that CD 11 appoint a liaison for residents to communicate with fema and representative lose office to investigate the basis for famous map change in to assist Venice residents in mitigating any financial impact.

2047
03:28:12.750 --> 03:28:27.870
Daffodil Tyminski: on them by sending a letter to request a flood zone determination change, I will note therefore spelled improperly in this context, I would take off the E at the end and that this was recommended by the neighborhood Committee, which is also spelled incorrectly 501.

2048
03:28:28.590 --> 03:28:31.860
james murez: Thank you very much um do we have a second.

2049
03:28:34.770 --> 03:28:35.790
Nico Ruderman: i'll seconds NICO.

2050
03:28:36.630 --> 03:28:40.410
james murez: NICO okay definitely did you want to explain a little bit more.

2051
03:28:41.460 --> 03:28:48.780
Daffodil Tyminski: Sure, I mean, in essence, a lot of us live near the beach we assume that perhaps our properties when areas that could flood but.

2052
03:28:49.170 --> 03:29:03.300
Daffodil Tyminski: periodically, and I am assuming climate change fees into this, the Federal Government through fema will update what it believes is area that's vulnerable to flooding and therefore requires flood insurance.

2053
03:29:04.920 --> 03:29:09.120
Daffodil Tyminski: For some of you in these areas, and I think the cows were affected, I think.

2054
03:29:10.140 --> 03:29:23.430
Daffodil Tyminski: A lot of North Venice was affected I wasn't i'm already in the flood zone, but I think other folks close to me where, if you want to refinance your house or sell your House you're going to have to go through a process that requires you to get federally.

2055
03:29:25.200 --> 03:29:26.730
Daffodil Tyminski: mandated flood insurance.

2056
03:29:27.750 --> 03:29:36.270
Daffodil Tyminski: Typically, the Federal Government sets the standards, but it is your city that is supposed to notify you of the new requirements and give you a transition period.

2057
03:29:36.600 --> 03:29:45.210
Daffodil Tyminski: And as far as we can tell the city of La never notified us so now, the ability to get the less expensive flood insurance has lapsed.

2058
03:29:45.930 --> 03:29:54.480
Daffodil Tyminski: We are now just you know people that need it so if you want to make any changes to your property you're going to have to comply, probably integrator cost so.

2059
03:29:55.020 --> 03:29:58.200
Daffodil Tyminski: There have been various stakeholders that have reached out on this issue.

2060
03:29:59.130 --> 03:30:07.530
Daffodil Tyminski: People have contacted with varying degrees of success Ted lose office, and also the Council office and have come kind of given the run around.

2061
03:30:08.040 --> 03:30:19.860
Daffodil Tyminski: So the purpose of the motion is just to have someone in CD 11 appointed liaison to sort this out the flood zone was made fairly large in Venice, it probably doesn't need to be as large as it is.

2062
03:30:21.540 --> 03:30:23.850
Daffodil Tyminski: And so that's The point of this.

2063
03:30:24.330 --> 03:30:29.130
james murez: Okay, thank you um let's go to public comment now do you want to do it, or should I because you're.

2064
03:30:30.330 --> 03:30:31.260
Daffodil Tyminski: Good you can do it.

2065
03:30:32.400 --> 03:30:33.690
james murez: Okay, do we have a stopwatch.

2066
03:30:34.680 --> 03:30:36.930
Daffodil Tyminski: That is Andrea is keeping the clock.

2067
03:30:37.140 --> 03:30:43.350
james murez: yeah the screens jumping around and I don't see it, so I need to be able to serve every is okay um.

2068
03:30:44.820 --> 03:30:47.970
james murez: The last hand I see up is Julie s.

2069
03:30:49.890 --> 03:30:51.300
james murez: Sean go ahead.

2070
03:30:52.560 --> 03:31:08.520
sean obrien: Okay, great thanks guys yeah really interesting topic, and we all think that this is a money grab from female because they're spending so much money on the east coast they're looking for more revenue stream now interesting thing David skelly of.

2071
03:31:13.590 --> 03:31:22.650
sean obrien: God soils he did a study for the restatements and community and kind of pretty much exempted them of the femur review.

2072
03:31:23.130 --> 03:31:43.920
sean obrien: and his findings came up that it's probably going to be 75 years before there's going to be a need for like any worry about a flood I don't know how his report, I do have is reported to work order number 7986 for the reese Davidson community and yeah that's that's my two cents thanks.

2073
03:31:44.550 --> 03:31:49.140
james murez: Thank you i'm Yolanda go ahead, please.

2074
03:31:50.310 --> 03:32:00.870
Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, good evening i'm Thank you daffodil for really working on this with me and i've been doing more of an investigation on it.

2075
03:32:01.350 --> 03:32:10.320
Yolanda Gonzalez: And finally I got a response from somebody in the environmental justice file the city and they want me to send.

2076
03:32:10.830 --> 03:32:27.240
Yolanda Gonzalez: The documentation that I sent to Barnes office and some other agencies, the most important thing that I want to make and and I discussed it with some really bright people that fema could be in violation of our.

2077
03:32:28.140 --> 03:32:37.620
Yolanda Gonzalez: Community and and then a specific plan, because now new construction is required to go higher if this is the case.

2078
03:32:38.130 --> 03:32:51.720
Yolanda Gonzalez: So I will continue to investigate it because I am affected, for the first time after 25 years been on my property because next year, it might be a higher rate than I might have to pay.

2079
03:32:51.780 --> 03:32:52.140
james murez: Thank you.

2080
03:32:53.010 --> 03:32:54.210
james murez: that's your time sorry.

2081
03:32:55.230 --> 03:32:58.140
james murez: i'm Elizabeth right go ahead place.

2082
03:33:01.710 --> 03:33:05.190
Elizabeth Wright: server several years ago usc did a study on.

2083
03:33:07.170 --> 03:33:19.290
Elizabeth Wright: Global warming and the rise of the oceans and they do have publications out showing the maps that they drew which is probably like fema used.

2084
03:33:19.890 --> 03:33:33.510
Elizabeth Wright: fema does not get the money it's the mortgage holder that requires the insurance, that is my understanding from the little that I read on instead of asking for a liaison to Ted Lou.

2085
03:33:34.260 --> 03:33:38.400
Elizabeth Wright: I think you'd be better off having a task force doing some.

2086
03:33:39.420 --> 03:33:51.780
Elizabeth Wright: Work with the Venice community that has this requirement and putting together some facts, so that you say no i'm not going to be impacted by storms, or I am.

2087
03:33:53.190 --> 03:33:53.550
Elizabeth Wright: Thank you.

2088
03:33:54.060 --> 03:33:54.630
james murez: Thank you.

2089
03:34:00.810 --> 03:34:02.130
james murez: kyle go ahead, please.

2090
03:34:08.610 --> 03:34:15.240
Kyle Ritenhaus: yeah, as you know, you get known as global warming cram in it just to finish.

2091
03:34:16.470 --> 03:34:29.250
Kyle Ritenhaus: party your beach from is he doing no dredging like we knew over South Carolina North Carolina and east coast, we do dredging we protect the coastal area.

2092
03:34:29.790 --> 03:34:44.160
Kyle Ritenhaus: You guys don't touch it you're free to something, but you got God damn oil rigs out there dumping all in your ocean, you know talk about that just bought your eyes and fees.

2093
03:34:44.580 --> 03:35:04.020
Kyle Ritenhaus: So your insurance don't go up, but I have a plan to stop it it's called move the Fuck away from the danger zone into a safer zone and i'm going to be writing that as a testimonial all you folks when California sinks in ocean.

2094
03:35:04.080 --> 03:35:06.540
Kyle Ritenhaus: isle and it's going to be on a beach.

2095
03:35:11.100 --> 03:35:13.500
james murez: i'm Helen go ahead, please.

2096
03:35:15.570 --> 03:35:28.590
Helen Fallon: I agree with Liz right that it's kind of a waste to ask, on his office to appoint will use on you're going to do anything he never does I also just want to point out that should have been submitted as a stakeholders motion did you don't have a.

2097
03:35:28.590 --> 03:35:29.430
Helen Fallon: corn yet.

2098
03:35:29.460 --> 03:35:36.150
Helen Fallon: In your neighborhood Committee, you have an appointed enough Members, so I don't know how you came up with five votes because you.

2099
03:35:36.690 --> 03:35:43.380
Helen Fallon: Six voting voting Members when you only have five people on the committee, officially, so you know.

2100
03:35:44.250 --> 03:35:50.760
Helen Fallon: No problem going forward with it, you know discuss it, but don't pretend it's from the neighborhood committee and that they've endorsed it.

2101
03:35:51.180 --> 03:36:02.640
Helen Fallon: it's it should just be contemplated the stakeholders motion and again don't waste your time trying to ask, on his office to do anything so the caliber of most of his employees.

2102
03:36:05.220 --> 03:36:05.880
james murez: Thank you.

2103
03:36:07.080 --> 03:36:07.740
james murez: i'm.

2104
03:36:08.970 --> 03:36:11.250
james murez: Julie, yes, go ahead last speaker.

2105
03:36:13.680 --> 03:36:21.660
Juli S ✨: yeah I um, thank you for letting me comment on this and I just what I think it's really important we dig into this more.

2106
03:36:22.170 --> 03:36:33.060
Juli S ✨: And the county of Los Angeles, is in the process of putting together what they're calling the safety element which is part of the general plan that talks about coastal flooding.

2107
03:36:33.570 --> 03:36:44.040
Juli S ✨: And we really need to dig into this regarding at 1197 which the reese Davidson project is trying to get in on and bypassing sequence.

2108
03:36:44.580 --> 03:36:59.190
Juli S ✨: And this is really important, because, whether or not it's a fema area in Venice or not, that could cause more homeless housing type projects in the coastal zone.

2109
03:36:59.730 --> 03:37:12.810
Juli S ✨: And in the fema flood zone so it's really important that we look at this more from city and county, especially because they're putting a report together on safety elements.

2110
03:37:12.810 --> 03:37:13.710
Juli S ✨: Thank you.

2111
03:37:13.890 --> 03:37:16.410
james murez: Sorry, I had to cut you off you got you had your minute.

2112
03:37:19.530 --> 03:37:22.470
james murez: Okay, that closes public comment.

2113
03:37:24.720 --> 03:37:27.270
james murez: Committee comment NICO go ahead, please.

2114
03:37:29.070 --> 03:37:37.710
Nico Ruderman: yeah it's it's really more of a quick question is there a is there a map that we have that we can look at that that shows the old versus new flood zones.

2115
03:37:39.150 --> 03:37:47.310
james murez: Well, the old flood zone there wasn't a map at the time, I mean maybe it goes back many, many years, I know that there was a flood zone map.

2116
03:37:47.760 --> 03:38:03.180
james murez: We talked about this, several months ago with the prior board when Janet Turner from Ted lose office presented it, I know I put the item on the agenda and presented a map at the time I don't believe the neighborhood committee has done that, at this time.

2117
03:38:03.810 --> 03:38:05.760
Daffodil Tyminski: Or, if I could speak to that.

2118
03:38:05.820 --> 03:38:06.180
jury.

2119
03:38:07.440 --> 03:38:14.520
Daffodil Tyminski: So just a couple things and it just so happens that this issue was brought up and I have previously dealt with this in my life.

2120
03:38:15.090 --> 03:38:28.260
Daffodil Tyminski: On two occasions, so i'm very familiar with how this works there is a map, it is on the neighborhood committee site and it shows the proposed changes there was a previous map.

2121
03:38:28.290 --> 03:38:30.270
Daffodil Tyminski: It is available on the female website.

2122
03:38:30.360 --> 03:38:30.900
and

2123
03:38:31.950 --> 03:38:45.270
Daffodil Tyminski: I expect over the next few months we will have a lot more discussion on this topic, because it really is going to impact, a lot of Venice, that is why the initial motion was just to ask for liaison to get the ball rolling, so to speak.

2124
03:38:46.440 --> 03:38:50.850
Daffodil Tyminski: There absolutely has to be a city liaison because the way this has worked.

2125
03:38:51.660 --> 03:39:00.990
Daffodil Tyminski: The way this works is it is fema that decides, where the they believe the flood zone goes, and then they administer the program through the cities so.

2126
03:39:01.170 --> 03:39:09.900
Daffodil Tyminski: As much as I would love to leave bonds office out of it because I don't think that they will be productive as a lease on We really cannot leave the city out and that's our avenue to do so.

2127
03:39:11.700 --> 03:39:22.020
Daffodil Tyminski: Now you can challenge the parameters of the fema map and take an area, out of a flood zone that just doesn't make sense, sometimes that does happen.

2128
03:39:23.640 --> 03:39:31.050
Daffodil Tyminski: And that is what I expect we will want to have happen and certain parts of Venice that just are on high ground and probably not going to flood.

2129
03:39:34.560 --> 03:39:47.010
Daffodil Tyminski: Yolanda raise a really interesting point, and this is what I kind of want to make everyone aware of for just down the road and what this means, and I say this from my personal experience on the east coast, I own a house at the beach on the east coast.

2130
03:39:48.210 --> 03:39:58.680
Daffodil Tyminski: When fema puts this new flood map in the first step is redrawing the map and imposing these insurance regulations, essentially, if you have a mortgage.

2131
03:39:59.070 --> 03:40:06.690
Daffodil Tyminski: You have to get flood insurance if you're in the zone, if you own the House yourself and you don't want any coverage fine great, but if you have a regular.

2132
03:40:07.230 --> 03:40:19.680
Daffodil Tyminski: Policy, you need to get coverage, but eventually if you have an incident to your House and you need to rebuild once you're in the fema flood zone, you need to build according to fema standards.

2133
03:40:20.400 --> 03:40:28.890
Daffodil Tyminski: And so i'm happy to take a longer conversation off topic with anyone that wants to contact me, but particularly older historic neighborhoods.

2134
03:40:29.370 --> 03:40:37.170
Daffodil Tyminski: You can be required to rebuild or amend your House according to fema standards which typically requires the House to be at least four feet off the ground.

2135
03:40:37.650 --> 03:40:43.020
Daffodil Tyminski: You see this a lot when you see photos of the East coast with houses on like stilts and pillars and things like that near the ocean.

2136
03:40:43.560 --> 03:40:48.420
Daffodil Tyminski: Those are all fema proof houses it essentially means for our height limits eventually.

2137
03:40:48.720 --> 03:40:55.800
Daffodil Tyminski: You know, we could end up with what now or three storey homes to just be two and a half storey homes because we have to be off the ground in these areas.

2138
03:40:56.160 --> 03:41:04.320
Daffodil Tyminski: So it really can fundamentally change an entire neighborhood and it's something that we kind of need to be a head of a little bit with the city.

2139
03:41:04.620 --> 03:41:12.360
Daffodil Tyminski: Again, the city is a very important part of this it's not all just about fema So the idea behind this was to get the ball rolling.

2140
03:41:13.110 --> 03:41:23.370
Daffodil Tyminski: Talk to the Council Office about it start getting some information and coordinating all these pieces together because fema contemplates that everyone is just going to play well in the sandbox.

2141
03:41:23.820 --> 03:41:34.920
Daffodil Tyminski: and help each other out and help the Community, but we know that just doesn't happen and we know in Venice, in particular, it hasn't happened because these requirements have already been imposed, and most people don't even have notice of it.

2142
03:41:35.700 --> 03:41:47.790
james murez: Okay, thank you dad um let's see if we can end this by 11 o'clock tonight we got 20 minutes to go and one more two more items after this if we can keep our comments short that'd be great um.

2143
03:41:49.020 --> 03:41:50.100
james murez: see my go ahead, please.

2144
03:41:53.790 --> 03:41:57.450
Sima Kostovetsky: So I was just wondering how does this affect.

2145
03:41:58.620 --> 03:42:06.090
Sima Kostovetsky: i'll new development in Venice and and does it does that affect all new development, including supportive housing.

2146
03:42:07.170 --> 03:42:10.560
Sima Kostovetsky: So now there's higher insurance that.

2147
03:42:12.120 --> 03:42:14.820
Sima Kostovetsky: Potentially is going to be waived.

2148
03:42:16.710 --> 03:42:20.700
james murez: So we don't have new development standards, I think that's the point that death was making that.

2149
03:42:21.330 --> 03:42:33.960
james murez: know the coastal Commission in the city are both going to have to come out with new development standards based on the new fema and, as far as being able to build, yes, you would have to get flood insurance right away elite go ahead.

2150
03:42:37.500 --> 03:42:39.480
Alix Gucovsky: Thanks Jim sorry um.

2151
03:42:40.620 --> 03:42:50.490
Alix Gucovsky: I mean, I was subject to this new flood insurance, I am concerned, how it would impact our site it's going on, against the median project.

2152
03:42:50.850 --> 03:43:09.090
Alix Gucovsky: um i'd like to see it, maybe it's just having a representative to speak with to leave a liaise with us, I think it would potentially be helpful to do a special meeting, maybe specifically devoted to fema um I know that a lot of us don't necessarily like.

2153
03:43:10.260 --> 03:43:14.730
Alix Gucovsky: You know the additional insurance fees, but I think another thing we have to think about is that in other.

2154
03:43:15.210 --> 03:43:28.890
Alix Gucovsky: In other coastal areas like in Florida in Virginia, people are actually say no more building by the coast and floods of New Orleans and we may want to you know, look at look at that approach.

2155
03:43:29.850 --> 03:43:43.260
Alix Gucovsky: And I think the science yes it's great, but I can tell you, as someone who's at the beach all the time, last week we had full South swells in the middle of November in Venice, like our climate is changing our Ocean is changing, and this may happen at a much more accelerated rate.

2156
03:43:44.430 --> 03:43:47.790
Alix Gucovsky: than we think okay so that's me.

2157
03:43:48.030 --> 03:43:50.520
james murez: Thank you very much, Melissa your hands up go ahead, please.

2158
03:43:54.810 --> 03:43:58.590
james murez: Well let's see your hand just went down Robert your hands up go ahead, please.

2159
03:44:01.260 --> 03:44:15.480
robertthibodeau: hey so a couple of people asked questions about what this means not from the insurance standpoint but from the sort of construction build ability standpoint, and I can take two minutes and give a quick outline.

2160
03:44:16.860 --> 03:44:25.380
robertthibodeau: Quick let's go for it, so the standards do exist, I think, somebody said that the standard didn't exist, yet the standards do exist.

2161
03:44:26.610 --> 03:44:37.410
robertthibodeau: What daffodil said was largely correct So if you can check your property on seamless and go out to the property profile report and it'll they'll.

2162
03:44:38.190 --> 03:44:48.000
robertthibodeau: be a line that says amongst the many other lines like if you're in the coastal zone, whatever there's a line that says flood zone if there's a code after the flood zone, you can click on that code.

2163
03:44:49.290 --> 03:44:52.140
robertthibodeau: The map of the flood zone NICO will come up.

2164
03:44:53.880 --> 03:45:12.270
robertthibodeau: or Andrea whoever asked about that, so the map will come up it's largely the silver triangle, the canals and then the area of North bennis between Abbot kinney and sort of mainstream the actual coast is ocean for a walk is up too high, so that's not a flood zone.

2165
03:45:13.500 --> 03:45:18.570
robertthibodeau: There are numbers on the maps that relate to hide points.

2166
03:45:19.020 --> 03:45:30.480
robertthibodeau: And you need to build above the height points it's not as high as what daffodil said, and not as high as I had originally feared when I first read the map, I think, partially, because I think there's some typos in there.

2167
03:45:31.170 --> 03:45:37.500
robertthibodeau: it's typically in Venice it's only about a foot above grade that you need to do waterproof construction.

2168
03:45:38.040 --> 03:45:43.380
robertthibodeau: It also prohibits any underground there, so no more, no more basements and stuff like that.

2169
03:45:44.070 --> 03:46:00.360
robertthibodeau: And you'll get an additional sign off So if you try and do an addition or new permit you're going to get a sign off from Bo D that then goes through a specific guy who who checks your plans, in addition to the regular plan checker to see if you're meeting they're.

2170
03:46:01.500 --> 03:46:10.650
robertthibodeau: they're sort of like water resistant construction requirements and that that's my short primer on that, because a couple people asked about it.

2171
03:46:11.070 --> 03:46:18.450
james murez: Thank you, Robert has, do you know it coastal has has has altered the the height limit, if you have to raise it up a football you like to go foot higher.

2172
03:46:18.750 --> 03:46:26.700
robertthibodeau: know and they hide them it's doing change so essentially you're building envelope gets squashed a little bit, but it's not it's not that bad.

2173
03:46:26.940 --> 03:46:35.430
robertthibodeau: You know, I was really fearful that we were going to lose like a story under the buildings, because when I read it first it looked like you ever gonna be like seven to eight feet off the ground.

2174
03:46:35.790 --> 03:46:51.270
robertthibodeau: But it's seven to eight feet off of a certain marker that is then water table marker to really only comes out when you do your subtraction it really only comes out to set like typically like six inches or a foot off the ground yeah after you're finished four levels.

2175
03:46:51.870 --> 03:46:53.130
robertthibodeau: it's not a killer do it.

2176
03:46:53.490 --> 03:46:53.820
james murez: All right.

2177
03:46:53.970 --> 03:46:55.230
james murez: Thank you so much let's take.

2178
03:46:55.260 --> 03:47:06.600
Daffodil Tyminski: A hold on this yeah I go ahead, we rubber let's talk about it offline but my experience on the east coast, was that, then all this change afterwards that's why I brought that.

2179
03:47:06.840 --> 03:47:07.170
robertthibodeau: i'm.

2180
03:47:07.500 --> 03:47:08.340
robertthibodeau: Showing it like.

2181
03:47:08.400 --> 03:47:20.430
robertthibodeau: projects going through right now and i'm just telling you the information i'm getting back from Bo D, and so this is this is just I don't know the deeper rules, but I know the boots on the ground kind of stuff.

2182
03:47:21.090 --> 03:47:32.670
james murez: Thank you, Robert and daffodil this like you said, this is going to come up for a while yet it'll come back around and we'll get more and more clear information as we move forward, Melissa let's take a vote on this.

2183
03:47:35.640 --> 03:47:36.450
melissadiner: Okay hold on.

2184
03:47:49.470 --> 03:47:49.920
james murez: Yes.

2185
03:47:51.330 --> 03:47:51.870
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

2186
03:47:52.140 --> 03:47:53.310
melissadiner: I vote yes, the leaks.

2187
03:47:54.810 --> 03:47:56.250
Alix Gucovsky: Yes, thank you.

2188
03:47:56.610 --> 03:47:57.030
Yes.

2189
03:47:58.440 --> 03:47:59.010
ElizabethClay: Yes.

2190
03:48:00.450 --> 03:48:01.350
soledad ursua: i'm saying.

2191
03:48:02.370 --> 03:48:02.910
melissadiner: rob.

2192
03:48:03.570 --> 03:48:05.730
melissadiner: Yes, ICO.

2193
03:48:08.610 --> 03:48:09.060
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

2194
03:48:11.700 --> 03:48:12.090
melissadiner: Yes.

2195
03:48:14.100 --> 03:48:14.610
robertthibodeau: Yes.

2196
03:48:14.670 --> 03:48:15.270
For now.

2197
03:48:17.760 --> 03:48:18.420
Bruno Hernandez: Yes.

2198
03:48:19.470 --> 03:48:20.730
melissadiner: Yes, cj.

2199
03:48:20.970 --> 03:48:23.850
melissadiner: Yes, Oliver yes Jason.

2200
03:48:24.690 --> 03:48:27.570
melissadiner: Yes, hi yes fema.

2201
03:48:28.500 --> 03:48:29.130
melissadiner: yeah.

2202
03:48:29.370 --> 03:48:47.160
james murez: it's 17 01 Thank you i'm daffodil as the neighborhood committee continues to work on this and discover more can you find out if board members that are within the flood zone need to recuse themselves in the future because of any kind of financial impact.

2203
03:48:47.910 --> 03:48:49.560
james murez: wow Thank you.

2204
03:48:50.730 --> 03:48:51.780
james murez: let's go back.

2205
03:48:51.840 --> 03:49:03.930
james murez: To the agenda yeah you know it's all of us that's right um we're now on to 12 see which is again a neighborhood.

2206
03:49:05.610 --> 03:49:11.850
james murez: Where I have to reduce the size of this was this the next one now there was one more before this excuse me.

2207
03:49:12.930 --> 03:49:20.070
james murez: And this one here sorry ran on two pages 12 see request for arby's on.

2208
03:49:20.490 --> 03:49:32.010
Daffodil Tyminski: um and so again, this was the result of multiple requests from over a period of several weeks about arby's in Venice we've already discussed this earlier in the meeting, and I think our.

2209
03:49:33.180 --> 03:49:41.820
Daffodil Tyminski: thoughts are probably well known, but the motion is, whereas certain Venice neighborhoods have been greatly impacted by clusters of rv encampments encroaching on sidewalks.

2210
03:49:42.150 --> 03:49:52.290
Daffodil Tyminski: discharging refuse and otherwise, creating a nuisance for neighbors and whereas as a public safety matter of the city and lapd has been either unwilling or unable to address the problem.

2211
03:49:52.740 --> 03:50:01.860
Daffodil Tyminski: Now, therefore, the vlc moves that CD 11 work with the impact of neighbors the public safety committee and other organizations already doing outreach to develop guidelines.

2212
03:50:02.160 --> 03:50:11.700
Daffodil Tyminski: For our wiis occupying certain neighborhood streets to minimize the impact of those are these on the adjacent residence recommended by the neighborhood committee 501.

2213
03:50:12.120 --> 03:50:17.820
james murez: Thank you do I hear a second second was that work Thank you Claire.

2214
03:50:19.080 --> 03:50:20.640
james murez: Okay let's take public comment.

2215
03:50:21.720 --> 03:50:25.710
james murez: I see forehand six hands.

2216
03:50:27.090 --> 03:50:34.200
james murez: sam's going once, twice, three times Lisa redmond you're the last one 713 go ahead, please.

2217
03:50:36.330 --> 03:50:37.620
james murez: Where did our timer go.

2218
03:50:39.060 --> 03:50:39.450
soledad ursua: hi.

2219
03:50:40.770 --> 03:50:42.870
1561****713: i'm the unhealthy and do you know you don't have.

2220
03:50:44.490 --> 03:50:46.320
james murez: One excuse me, excuse me.

2221
03:50:46.350 --> 03:50:54.330
james murez: Ruth Ruth just one second I might check please read, no one will stop for one for one second please.

2222
03:50:55.380 --> 03:50:56.700
james murez: Ruth I don't want to argue.

2223
03:50:56.700 --> 03:50:57.240
Daffodil Tyminski: ahead.

2224
03:50:57.420 --> 03:51:01.020
james murez: and address okay now Ruth you can start your time now.

2225
03:51:01.050 --> 03:51:01.530
Thank you.

2226
03:51:03.210 --> 03:51:11.010
1561****713: Thank you very much, the voice decision Martin verse boys means that you cannot just place people when there's nowhere to go.

2227
03:51:11.970 --> 03:51:21.750
1561****713: Alright That said, also, I believe, should be interpreted legislatively like you can't make laws that displaced people when there's nowhere for them to go I call this shelter line.

2228
03:51:22.290 --> 03:51:36.660
1561****713: Before the cyclone to see if there was any where to go and they said everything was under quarantine, how can you display people in is really know where to go you guys need to like vicki this isn't going to work because of the voice decision it's not legal Thank you.

2229
03:51:37.980 --> 03:51:38.970
james murez: Thank you um.

2230
03:51:40.080 --> 03:51:54.990
james murez: Let me just say that this is not about removing the arby's, this is about trying to find a solution to the rv is that are there, how to best deal with the issues that exist so let's stay on topic Margaret go ahead you're unmuted.

2231
03:51:55.500 --> 03:52:02.490
Margaret Molloy: I think that Ruth was very much on topic, you know it's what are people in a desperate situation supposed to do so.

2232
03:52:02.970 --> 03:52:20.910
Margaret Molloy: You can be pedantic or anything else you want to be, but let's let's talk about the reality of human beings, trying to survive in very difficult circumstances, voluntary conditions, you know or unenforceable, we know that, so I guess what you're really proposing is.

2233
03:52:22.440 --> 03:52:39.990
Margaret Molloy: an ideal situation, but you can't you can't impose anything that's voluntary and you can't legally mandate anything because we're in this housing crisis and they say that if the vehicle is occupied it can't be tampered with so you know stop blaming the politician.

2234
03:52:41.250 --> 03:52:55.590
Margaret Molloy: Bus kiani has hundreds of people living in vehicles and CD 15 this isn't about a politician it's about people's hands tied and a pandemic and a paradigm of circumstances that you know the crisis.

2235
03:52:55.590 --> 03:52:57.030
james murez: At Margaret this time.

2236
03:53:00.300 --> 03:53:07.800
soledad ursua: we'll just note that the prayer like the prior to commentators were people outside of Venice so we're listening.

2237
03:53:08.280 --> 03:53:10.320
james murez: Recommendation outside.

2238
03:53:10.440 --> 03:53:14.160
james murez: of class so that just a moment you'll you'll get your chance in a minute.

2239
03:53:14.820 --> 03:53:17.310
Margaret Molloy: So dad read the nc rules.

2240
03:53:17.790 --> 03:53:19.500
soledad ursua: Margaret you are a resident.

2241
03:53:21.030 --> 03:53:31.170
james murez: soledad that's enough, please let's just let's just stick with what we've got to do here we've got 15 minutes to get finished let's get finished Sean go ahead, please.

2242
03:53:33.690 --> 03:53:44.790
sean obrien: Okay, thanks yeah support the project, but you know Venice is a containment zone, the Boise to say jade is all about enforcement they people don't get it like park or camp wherever they want.

2243
03:53:46.560 --> 03:53:54.870
sean obrien: We just we just can't arrest them if they're doing it, we can ask, we can get them to move along it's taught it's called regulating public space.

2244
03:53:55.620 --> 03:54:09.630
sean obrien: As far as this is, this is a piggyback what emotion you just passed earlier about enforcement, this is now trying to help the people we got to do it, we got to open up our spaces venice's a containment zone, thank you.

2245
03:54:10.920 --> 03:54:11.580
james murez: Thank you.

2246
03:54:14.310 --> 03:54:14.970
james murez: i'm.

2247
03:54:16.860 --> 03:54:18.270
james murez: Yolanda go ahead, please.

2248
03:54:21.420 --> 03:54:38.640
Yolanda Gonzalez: Okay um I live and they keep moving them they keep moving from one place to another now where there are apartments where tenants live their guests cannot park and visit them anymore.

2249
03:54:40.890 --> 03:54:46.020
Yolanda Gonzalez: And this is becoming a problem for landlords because.

2250
03:54:47.340 --> 03:54:50.880
Yolanda Gonzalez: They fire up fireworks at night.

2251
03:54:52.080 --> 03:54:55.500
Yolanda Gonzalez: They make a lot of noise they don't care.

2252
03:54:56.640 --> 03:55:01.290
Yolanda Gonzalez: We know the problem but behave and they're not behaving.

2253
03:55:02.400 --> 03:55:06.330
Yolanda Gonzalez: And we've had a lot of robberies within our Community.

2254
03:55:07.380 --> 03:55:07.860
Yolanda Gonzalez: Thank you.

2255
03:55:08.490 --> 03:55:09.090
james murez: Thank you.

2256
03:55:10.950 --> 03:55:12.300
james murez: Helen go ahead, please.

2257
03:55:14.880 --> 03:55:21.420
Helen Fallon: Now this motion did remind me Jenny you have yet to appointed chair to the to head up the public safety committee.

2258
03:55:22.590 --> 03:55:37.320
Helen Fallon: To this motion itself, you might want to amend it just flowers support for support CIS Council fell 14 dash 1057 dash dash nine which is emotion, as before, that is before the.

2259
03:55:38.400 --> 03:55:46.230
Helen Fallon: City Council are coming up before it has been submitted, that would provide outreach to the rv for housing, and so this might.

2260
03:55:46.980 --> 03:55:54.870
Helen Fallon: address the fact that we do have some people who are taking advantage on our streets of free campaign because they are everywhere we want.

2261
03:55:55.440 --> 03:56:00.720
Helen Fallon: But also would also address helping those that are actually on the streets, because they do need housing.

2262
03:56:01.350 --> 03:56:14.100
Helen Fallon: And it would provide the outreach services to these people who currently are not eligible for the outreach services so they're homeless, why aren't they getting the services that they need so again, I think you know emotional.

2263
03:56:15.030 --> 03:56:23.340
james murez: Thank you Helen um, I would like it if you could email me that Council file, so I can see whether or not there's an appropriate.

2264
03:56:24.360 --> 03:56:29.010
james murez: place to connect this motion if it passes to a Council file.

2265
03:56:31.050 --> 03:56:32.640
james murez: Police or redmond go ahead, please.

2266
03:56:34.530 --> 03:56:45.180
Lisa Redmond: yeah this is kind of along I was also saying earlier, here we are trying to create guidelines, which is, I think, hidden code for let's make some more rules and regulations.

2267
03:56:45.810 --> 03:56:50.760
Lisa Redmond: That we can eventually ticket and and find people on and.

2268
03:56:51.480 --> 03:57:12.360
Lisa Redmond: Rest people on what we really need is forced guidance pushing the city to demand the city, we need more outreach we need places for people that live in motor homes and motor vehicles and in cars for them to stay at not just simply at night, but obviously all day long.

2269
03:57:13.800 --> 03:57:34.530
Lisa Redmond: that's what we should be asking for, we should be demanding that we have used these buildings that we use open spaces for arby's for parking and creating more services, not just trying to find a way I also find it interesting that stakeholders have been pushed all night for now.

2270
03:57:35.280 --> 03:57:36.600
james murez: Thank you Lisa your time's up.

2271
03:57:38.010 --> 03:57:41.430
james murez: Okay, that closes public comment and.

2272
03:57:42.750 --> 03:58:01.200
james murez: We will move on now to board comment, let me just remind everybody that the hour is late it's 1053 on my clock, we have one more item let's see if we can get there before 11 which I kind of doubt, because I see four or five hands up elite go ahead, please.

2273
03:58:03.510 --> 03:58:05.520
james murez: And went down Jason go ahead, please.

2274
03:58:07.650 --> 03:58:13.890
Jason Sugars: i'm i'm among this sounds like we like something we already voted on just a few minutes ago.

2275
03:58:17.040 --> 03:58:17.970
james murez: Thank you Jason.

2276
03:58:19.080 --> 03:58:20.190
james murez: Clark go ahead, please.

2277
03:58:20.460 --> 03:58:26.610
clark brown: Well, there are some similarities This applies to our movies, and the other one applied to parking generally.

2278
03:58:27.420 --> 03:58:33.150
clark brown: I support this because I think it's a first step to enacting a comprehensive ordinance.

2279
03:58:33.990 --> 03:58:45.090
clark brown: Regulating camping in in our fees in the city and particularly in Venice right now, we have two ordinances which address arby's one is an ordinance which prohibits.

2280
03:58:45.780 --> 03:58:52.020
clark brown: camping an rv is between 2am and 6am in the morning but doesn't address the other.

2281
03:58:53.010 --> 03:59:02.160
clark brown: Time on the clock, the other is an ordinance which prohibits rv camping within 1000 feet of certain facilities and 500 feet of schools.

2282
03:59:02.460 --> 03:59:09.900
clark brown: But neither of those ordinances, for instance, address the rv camping that's going on on rose west of Lincoln or the.

2283
03:59:10.470 --> 03:59:20.070
clark brown: rv camping on on electric and Venice, so we need an ordinance that regulates all aspects of rv camping.

2284
03:59:20.580 --> 03:59:31.170
clark brown: People who are talking about housing are talking about the set an entirely separate issue everybody agrees, after the Boise decision that these parking ordinances.

2285
03:59:31.650 --> 03:59:46.440
clark brown: And homeless ordinances cannot be enforced unless you have housing for these people, but that's a separate issue, one issue is enforcement of the ordinances and the second is providing housing for these people as a as a condition for enforcement.

2286
03:59:47.070 --> 03:59:47.820
james murez: Thank you Claire.

2287
03:59:48.870 --> 03:59:49.800
james murez: Chi go ahead, please.

2288
03:59:51.990 --> 04:00:01.260
Chie Lunn: just want to reiterate again that are these are homes and there's places like kale ways, where you have full hookups washer and dryers laundry.

2289
04:00:01.590 --> 04:00:11.340
Chie Lunn: showers playgrounds for children, where you can actually hook up and be safe in the Community and services also can go to those locations.

2290
04:00:11.760 --> 04:00:17.820
Chie Lunn: Instead of commentary and hotels, maybe we should be talking about taking over some ways, but.

2291
04:00:18.150 --> 04:00:30.180
Chie Lunn: Beyond that they are homes arby's our home, so the people who live in our views are no longer homeless and they're not actually campaign either campaign is with tense and it's very different than having an rv okay.

2292
04:00:30.810 --> 04:00:45.150
james murez: Thank you, and I just want to point out that the comment you just made is a solution so people would say that we are not offering solutions that was clearly a solution, thank you for that James rob go ahead, please yeah.

2293
04:00:45.360 --> 04:00:53.250
James Robb: I just wanted to comment on what Helen had to say and I think I don't know somebody wants to add that, to the agenda, but I think outreach.

2294
04:00:53.910 --> 04:01:05.610
James Robb: is important as well, and this whole concept, so I don't know if that's something we can change on the motion or how we should proceed, but I like tell us idea of adding that.

2295
04:01:06.720 --> 04:01:09.720
James Robb: The other outreach to to get help.

2296
04:01:11.100 --> 04:01:11.790
Thank you.

2297
04:01:13.980 --> 04:01:14.310
james murez: i'm.

2298
04:01:17.070 --> 04:01:19.830
james murez: daffodil I think yours is last hand up go ahead.

2299
04:01:21.330 --> 04:01:33.900
Daffodil Tyminski: I just wanted to clarify, you know we've we've been presented with in Venice over the years, with a very either or situation right, we have all these rules and they just don't get enforced right and we've got all of these.

2300
04:01:34.380 --> 04:01:42.150
Daffodil Tyminski: People and I I live in it myself right off mainstream and all my neighbors are complaining about it every day and nothing gets enforced.

2301
04:01:42.540 --> 04:01:50.190
Daffodil Tyminski: And there just has to be some middle ground here where if we're going to take the position that it's okay to let people live in their cars on the street, which is fine.

2302
04:01:50.820 --> 04:01:55.140
Daffodil Tyminski: Ideally I would love another solution in a parking lot or something like that, but I feel like.

2303
04:01:55.590 --> 04:02:04.740
Daffodil Tyminski: we've tried that and the city has shut us down repeatedly so Okay, this is what we've got let's make it work right let's be able to walk down Main Street.

2304
04:02:05.130 --> 04:02:12.030
Daffodil Tyminski: With my neighbor and her six month old baby and the baby carriage and actually make it to Santa Monica we can't do that, right now, where I live.

2305
04:02:12.480 --> 04:02:27.780
Daffodil Tyminski: Between the bus I live between brooks and Santa Monica it is completely on passable there are rv and there's an encampment and there are tense next to the rv that leads to another encampment and it is totally blocked.

2306
04:02:29.190 --> 04:02:36.150
Daffodil Tyminski: We have plastic PVC pipes coming out of our v's going into our storm drains that go right to our beach or brooks.

2307
04:02:37.650 --> 04:02:42.810
Daffodil Tyminski: I can't believe that anybody actually thinks that this is a good idea, and that we should be supporting this so.

2308
04:02:43.260 --> 04:02:53.010
Daffodil Tyminski: Fine, this is the situation we found ourselves in the idea here is let's work together, develop at least some guidelines if you're going to be here let's operate this way.

2309
04:02:53.310 --> 04:03:00.810
Daffodil Tyminski: let's not totally block the sidewalk let's not set up an encampment with a Bamboo fence that completely blocks the bike lane.

2310
04:03:01.830 --> 04:03:06.300
Daffodil Tyminski: You know I could go on, but I think you get the point, so the idea here was.

2311
04:03:07.140 --> 04:03:21.060
Daffodil Tyminski: You know we've been only presented with these black and white scenarios in the past, clearly that's not working it's been years that this has been happening and we've just been getting worse let's try to start a different way and at least for joy to live together.

2312
04:03:21.210 --> 04:03:24.720
james murez: Thank you will show a dad you put your hand up and then let's take a boat go ahead.

2313
04:03:24.990 --> 04:03:32.880
soledad ursua: So I just want to remind everyone that our Council member Mike one has been working on safe parking for six years now right.

2314
04:03:33.300 --> 04:03:42.330
soledad ursua: Well, what has that produce nothing so maybe this is a good alternative maybe let's force it on this is obviously a huge need to our Community.

2315
04:03:42.750 --> 04:03:53.550
soledad ursua: And he has produced nothing it's a huge thing I mean I live by about 40 rv park around me all the time, so maybe this will help who knows, thank you.

2316
04:03:54.540 --> 04:03:55.020
um.

2317
04:03:56.160 --> 04:03:57.600
james murez: Okay, Melissa let's take a vote.

2318
04:03:57.930 --> 04:03:59.040
melissadiner: Who was the second.

2319
04:04:00.690 --> 04:04:01.050
clark brown: Second.

2320
04:04:02.580 --> 04:04:03.600
clark brown: quarter apple is.

2321
04:04:03.600 --> 04:04:04.110
Clark.

2322
04:04:05.400 --> 04:04:07.980
melissadiner: Jim yes or no.

2323
04:04:08.520 --> 04:04:10.590
melissadiner: Yes, yes, the leaks.

2324
04:04:10.950 --> 04:04:12.420
melissadiner: Yes, vicki.

2325
04:04:12.600 --> 04:04:13.080
Yes.

2326
04:04:14.370 --> 04:04:15.270
ElizabethClay: Yes.

2327
04:04:15.360 --> 04:04:16.950
soledad ursua: Oh yes.

2328
04:04:18.150 --> 04:04:18.870
melissadiner: Jane job.

2329
04:04:19.800 --> 04:04:21.750
melissadiner: This week, oh.

2330
04:04:24.810 --> 04:04:25.230
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

2331
04:04:25.500 --> 04:04:26.910
clark brown: Clark yes.

2332
04:04:27.540 --> 04:04:29.640
melissadiner: Over yes or no.

2333
04:04:29.820 --> 04:04:31.800
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, yes.

2334
04:04:32.070 --> 04:04:33.690
Bruno Hernandez: tj yes.

2335
04:04:33.810 --> 04:04:35.220
Oliver Fries: Oliver yes.

2336
04:04:35.730 --> 04:04:36.390
Jason.

2337
04:04:37.470 --> 04:04:38.250
Jason Sugars: Still, no.

2338
04:04:39.570 --> 04:04:42.030
melissadiner: hi yes seema.

2339
04:04:47.580 --> 04:04:47.970
melissadiner: seema.

2340
04:04:53.790 --> 04:04:54.510
melissadiner: Is she there.

2341
04:04:56.040 --> 04:04:56.670
james murez: Was.

2342
04:04:58.680 --> 04:05:00.900
melissadiner: I don't see her now Okay, well then.

2343
04:05:02.100 --> 04:05:05.550
james murez: she's still on screen but there's it's black.

2344
04:05:06.540 --> 04:05:08.820
melissadiner: Well then, 16 01 yeah okay.

2345
04:05:08.940 --> 04:05:11.130
james murez: What did you say 16 what 01.

2346
04:05:12.240 --> 04:05:25.170
james murez: Okay, thank you, the motion gary's daffodil this one is really long and i'm not even sure in this next motion where the motion starts and where the descriptions start so if.

2347
04:05:26.610 --> 04:05:28.290
CJ Cole: you're missing 12 D.

2348
04:05:29.670 --> 04:05:36.660
james murez: 12 oh you're right, excuse me boy yeah but I missed that it's very sorry cj Thank you for pointing that out um.

2349
04:05:36.780 --> 04:05:43.740
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah let me, let me just say, with respect to 12 D we'd like to continue that i'm going to make a motion, you can do that till December.

2350
04:05:44.790 --> 04:05:45.270
Daffodil Tyminski: um.

2351
04:05:45.420 --> 04:05:47.370
james murez: You have some applications that we want to get.

2352
04:05:49.290 --> 04:05:54.960
Daffodil Tyminski: We do we do have some applications, but some people included incomplete information on them.

2353
04:05:55.440 --> 04:06:01.530
Daffodil Tyminski: And I didn't realize it until too late, so we need to go back to make sure they fill it out properly to make sure the areas are correct, I think it's.

2354
04:06:01.620 --> 04:06:03.390
Daffodil Tyminski: we've got all the people but.

2355
04:06:04.530 --> 04:06:11.940
Daffodil Tyminski: So I just like to continue that till next month 12 he I had nothing to do with I don't know where that's coming from.

2356
04:06:14.070 --> 04:06:17.760
CJ Cole: I would like to move there we postpone that and john next month July.

2357
04:06:18.120 --> 04:06:19.740
soledad ursua: Our second cj.

2358
04:06:21.180 --> 04:06:22.980
melissadiner: And this is your emotion.

2359
04:06:23.850 --> 04:06:26.670
james murez: This might have been a rack motion.

2360
04:06:27.480 --> 04:06:29.340
soledad ursua: Okay, can we hold off on this.

2361
04:06:29.340 --> 04:06:30.780
Alix Gucovsky: One, I think.

2362
04:06:30.810 --> 04:06:31.350
Alix Gucovsky: It was.

2363
04:06:31.470 --> 04:06:33.630
Alix Gucovsky: stuff through rap that I sent.

2364
04:06:34.950 --> 04:06:38.910
Alix Gucovsky: that I sent to you and I believe it was about.

2365
04:06:40.020 --> 04:06:45.600
Alix Gucovsky: Putting in comments that that we haven't had enough transparency.

2366
04:06:47.790 --> 04:06:57.570
melissadiner: Oh that's not what this was supposed to be Jim this was supposed to be your emotion and the only one, I got from you, through the agenda request after our call.

2367
04:06:58.440 --> 04:07:00.480
melissadiner: A motion with on, let me.

2368
04:07:00.690 --> 04:07:06.360
melissadiner: Let me finish for a second, which was supposed to be jim's motion in regards to the.

2369
04:07:08.850 --> 04:07:13.320
melissadiner: The shelters or the advertisements on the bus stops.

2370
04:07:14.010 --> 04:07:20.940
james murez: Oh, this is the bus shelters motion this was yeah I know what you're talking about now.

2371
04:07:21.330 --> 04:07:28.260
melissadiner: i'm sorry if that's what this is, and I believe this is timely, which is why you wanted it on here.

2372
04:07:28.320 --> 04:07:31.800
Alix Gucovsky: Not that is I sent it to gym i'm.

2373
04:07:34.920 --> 04:07:35.760
Alix Gucovsky: hold on.

2374
04:07:39.270 --> 04:07:42.660
james murez: So we want to be able to file an im Community impact statement.

2375
04:07:43.710 --> 04:07:54.060
james murez: about the bus shelters having electronic display signs at the shelters and what kind of an impact that's going to have.

2376
04:07:54.690 --> 04:07:55.140
james murez: And this.

2377
04:07:55.230 --> 04:08:00.090
james murez: was originally a rack motion that describe it it's very long.

2378
04:08:00.870 --> 04:08:03.990
soledad ursua: I like to motion that we hear this at the next meeting.

2379
04:08:04.050 --> 04:08:06.060
james murez: Well it'll be too late, so we can just throw it.

2380
04:08:06.060 --> 04:08:06.510
Alix Gucovsky: Over to you.

2381
04:08:07.500 --> 04:08:21.060
Alix Gucovsky: So, Jim can I speak to this for a second because I actually heard the presentation and just so everyone is aware there's a plan to put in 3000 bus shelters throughout the city which isn't even like.

2382
04:08:21.960 --> 04:08:31.650
Alix Gucovsky: it's like a drop in the bucket of what we need, but the bigger challenges is that these are all going to be digital digital shelters there's moved towards a smart city.

2383
04:08:32.070 --> 04:08:53.520
Alix Gucovsky: with potentially digital ads and they're they're all sorts of potentially negative impacts for privacy issues data breaches five g, etc, etc, and there have been a lot of questions asked about the program and to go through a proper er process and.

2384
04:08:54.900 --> 04:08:56.010
Alix Gucovsky: Basically, like.

2385
04:08:57.510 --> 04:08:59.700
Alix Gucovsky: None of that is happening and.

2386
04:09:01.260 --> 04:09:09.420
Alix Gucovsky: This is really a CIS to say we need more time and more more impacted more feedback feedback what's going on is is not transparent.

2387
04:09:09.750 --> 04:09:11.700
melissadiner: mainly in regards to the digital.

2388
04:09:11.700 --> 04:09:12.300
james murez: aspect.

2389
04:09:12.360 --> 04:09:16.830
james murez: or a colleague, do you want to just read the motion will get a second, that we can actually discuss.

2390
04:09:17.040 --> 04:09:17.730
CJ Cole: Come on.

2391
04:09:19.020 --> 04:09:19.320
CJ Cole: We.

2392
04:09:22.470 --> 04:09:25.830
CJ Cole: We don't we have a motion to postpone and we.

2393
04:09:25.830 --> 04:09:26.220
melissadiner: don't.

2394
04:09:26.280 --> 04:09:27.540
melissadiner: We don't because no one's.

2395
04:09:29.190 --> 04:09:29.820
CJ Cole: So, again.

2396
04:09:30.660 --> 04:09:33.180
soledad ursua: I put an emotional response cj.

2397
04:09:36.300 --> 04:09:38.460
James Robb: cj to postpone it that's my mo.

2398
04:09:38.790 --> 04:09:39.090
yeah.

2399
04:09:40.530 --> 04:09:43.620
james murez: Okay, we have to take a vote to postpone.

2400
04:09:48.840 --> 04:09:50.730
james murez: Melissa load to postpone.

2401
04:09:50.790 --> 04:10:03.000
Daffodil Tyminski: But can I just point out because it's relevant to voting on this, the Council file that's open at the moment is actually a request for proposals and public engagement yo.

2402
04:10:03.660 --> 04:10:12.360
Daffodil Tyminski: So I don't know that there's action being taken yet unless any I don't know where this came from, or how it got on the agenda but.

2403
04:10:13.350 --> 04:10:21.150
Daffodil Tyminski: It doesn't seem as though there's imminent City Council action based on looking at the Council file right now, unless I miss reading it or someone has other information.

2404
04:10:22.500 --> 04:10:24.720
james murez: Well there's a date of action there what's the day.

2405
04:10:25.890 --> 04:10:27.300
Daffodil Tyminski: there's not a date of action that's my.

2406
04:10:27.360 --> 04:10:29.550
Daffodil Tyminski: Point in committing in public.

2407
04:10:29.550 --> 04:10:32.010
Daffodil Tyminski: works, and there is no date of action listed.

2408
04:10:32.160 --> 04:10:37.710
james murez: that's the committee where that's the committee where they're sending it, so the idea is to get the public comment into that committee.

2409
04:10:39.930 --> 04:10:42.120
james murez: And there's no data when they're sending it to the committee.

2410
04:10:42.390 --> 04:10:47.460
Daffodil Tyminski: understood, it is not listed in the Council file and it's not listed like it typically so.

2411
04:10:48.390 --> 04:10:51.870
CJ Cole: This should go to our transportation committee.

2412
04:10:52.410 --> 04:10:59.100
melissadiner: It was I don't this is, I have him for someone I know downtown is working on this circulating a petition.

2413
04:10:59.490 --> 04:11:09.450
melissadiner: He was very adamant that I signed it and was very curious, but we voted on, he made it seem like this was very timely is much more connected to the happenings of this.

2414
04:11:09.900 --> 04:11:17.220
melissadiner: boat, however, you want, but if we want to have a say on this, we should just get through it quickly and get it done tonight yep.

2415
04:11:17.490 --> 04:11:24.180
james murez: I agree, but let's take a vote, there is a motion and a second to postpone this to December.

2416
04:11:27.240 --> 04:11:28.710
james murez: You want to take a vote, please, Melissa.

2417
04:11:28.890 --> 04:11:29.370
Jim.

2418
04:11:30.390 --> 04:11:30.840
james murez: No.

2419
04:11:31.500 --> 04:11:32.160
daffodil.

2420
04:11:33.900 --> 04:11:39.570
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm i'm going to abstain, I just don't have enough information i'm looking it up right now.

2421
04:11:40.470 --> 04:11:42.240
CJ Cole: that's why you voted against.

2422
04:11:45.090 --> 04:11:47.700
soledad ursua: The motion on the floor substantial the sunburn.

2423
04:11:48.240 --> 04:11:56.520
james murez: Did the emotion abstain until December I voted no daffodils started talking, but we need to just yes or no and move on or abstain.

2424
04:11:57.240 --> 04:12:00.510
melissadiner: Okay, I vote no leaks.

2425
04:12:04.110 --> 04:12:04.560
Vicki Halliday: No.

2426
04:12:07.560 --> 04:12:08.010
ElizabethClay: No.

2427
04:12:08.550 --> 04:12:08.970
James.

2428
04:12:13.980 --> 04:12:14.430
James Robb: Yes.

2429
04:12:14.940 --> 04:12:15.360
melissadiner: Thank you.

2430
04:12:20.460 --> 04:12:21.000
Nico Ruderman: know.

2431
04:12:21.330 --> 04:12:22.680
clark brown: Clark, though.

2432
04:12:23.250 --> 04:12:24.540
robertthibodeau: Robert no.

2433
04:12:24.960 --> 04:12:25.500
melissadiner: For now.

2434
04:12:25.950 --> 04:12:27.660
melissadiner: No Andrea.

2435
04:12:27.960 --> 04:12:29.340
melissadiner: Oh cj.

2436
04:12:30.150 --> 04:12:32.220
melissadiner: Yes, Oliver.

2437
04:12:32.580 --> 04:12:33.000
know.

2438
04:12:36.750 --> 04:12:37.290
melissadiner: Jason.

2439
04:12:38.760 --> 04:12:39.300
Jason Sugars: Yes.

2440
04:12:41.280 --> 04:12:41.760
melissadiner: hi.

2441
04:12:42.180 --> 04:12:43.440
Yes, I.

2442
04:12:50.010 --> 04:12:51.240
james murez: can hear you see mom you.

2443
04:12:54.180 --> 04:12:54.660
Sima Kostovetsky: know.

2444
04:12:56.160 --> 04:12:57.210
soledad ursua: Sorry, yes.

2445
04:13:01.800 --> 04:13:02.370
melissadiner: Oh.

2446
04:13:09.000 --> 04:13:10.170
melissadiner: or 12 one.

2447
04:13:10.800 --> 04:13:14.700
james murez: Thank you motion does not carry Alex do you want to read the motion.

2448
04:13:16.260 --> 04:13:20.970
soledad ursua: yeah you guys if you guys don't understand the full motion, how can you vote on it, but.

2449
04:13:21.090 --> 04:13:23.520
james murez: As we're getting ready we're getting ready to.

2450
04:13:24.150 --> 04:13:25.500
soledad ursua: understand the full motion.

2451
04:13:25.560 --> 04:13:27.240
james murez: or dad Do I need to mute you.

2452
04:13:27.780 --> 04:13:28.560
soledad ursua: Go ahead.

2453
04:13:31.380 --> 04:13:31.800
Alix Gucovsky: Okay.

2454
04:13:33.360 --> 04:13:34.350
Alix Gucovsky: We have a.

2455
04:13:36.240 --> 04:13:36.750
Alix Gucovsky: business.

2456
04:13:37.380 --> 04:13:38.040
clark brown: Point of water.

2457
04:13:38.310 --> 04:13:41.040
Alix Gucovsky: neighborhood can can I read this motion guys.

2458
04:13:41.880 --> 04:13:43.950
clark brown: I think port point of water takes precedence.

2459
04:13:43.980 --> 04:13:45.480
james murez: yeah it does go ahead Clark.

2460
04:13:45.930 --> 04:13:48.840
clark brown: Why do we need to read it is before us why can't we wave rudy.

2461
04:13:49.440 --> 04:13:50.070
melissadiner: agree.

2462
04:13:50.610 --> 04:13:53.010
james murez: We can wave reading it's fine waving it was published.

2463
04:13:53.040 --> 04:13:54.750
clark brown: We can wave reading it's all before I.

2464
04:13:54.750 --> 04:13:56.280
james murez: Just somebody want to make the motion.

2465
04:13:56.670 --> 04:13:57.240
Alix Gucovsky: i'm mom.

2466
04:13:58.800 --> 04:14:00.270
Alix Gucovsky: i'm making the motion it's illegal.

2467
04:14:00.600 --> 04:14:04.920
james murez: leaks leaks, thank you Clark leaks made the motion to have a second.

2468
04:14:05.190 --> 04:14:08.730
james murez: Second, Robert seconds, the motion let's take public comment.

2469
04:14:09.180 --> 04:14:11.040
clark brown: What are we voting on the way.

2470
04:14:12.240 --> 04:14:14.610
james murez: we're voting on the motion we waved.

2471
04:14:14.700 --> 04:14:20.370
james murez: The reading of emotion, we are vote we are but taking a public comment now on the motion.

2472
04:14:20.520 --> 04:14:21.840
clark brown: is on the merits of the most.

2473
04:14:22.650 --> 04:14:34.260
james murez: Of the motion that's correct the last public speaker will be Lisa redmond or six public speakers go go ahead, you have you're unmuted.

2474
04:14:36.000 --> 04:14:37.260
james murez: We have a time clock calling.

2475
04:14:38.310 --> 04:14:39.000
james murez: Anybody.

2476
04:14:40.800 --> 04:14:42.360
Daffodil Tyminski: I can do it, I am.

2477
04:14:44.700 --> 04:14:46.680
james murez: Oh andres got his up there okay great.

2478
04:14:47.730 --> 04:14:49.590
james murez: goat you're unmuted if you're going to speak.

2479
04:14:50.610 --> 04:14:51.540
james murez: We can't hear you.

2480
04:14:54.300 --> 04:14:55.800
robertthibodeau: you're still muted on the screen.

2481
04:15:00.450 --> 04:15:02.070
james murez: Go last chance.

2482
04:15:03.690 --> 04:15:09.690
james murez: I don't know man you're having technical difficulties or something you're unmuted on this end oh now you got it go for it.

2483
04:15:12.360 --> 04:15:12.720
Goat puppet Kenosha: So.

2484
04:15:13.500 --> 04:15:15.810
james murez: Excuse me one second Andre you want to restart is clock.

2485
04:15:16.800 --> 04:15:18.150
Goat puppet Kenosha: yeah look up.

2486
04:15:20.220 --> 04:15:20.490
james murez: Okay.

2487
04:15:21.810 --> 04:15:26.070
Goat puppet Kenosha: It must have sent the violet or daffodil for a fucking time out.

2488
04:15:27.540 --> 04:15:34.860
Goat puppet Kenosha: So we come in the late hour and Roberts confused bruno's confused.

2489
04:15:36.450 --> 04:15:36.870
Goat puppet Kenosha: But it's good.

2490
04:15:38.190 --> 04:15:42.390
Goat puppet Kenosha: And we were just want to know exactly what the hell, are we voting on.

2491
04:15:42.600 --> 04:15:44.160
Goat puppet Kenosha: And why are we voting on it.

2492
04:15:45.450 --> 04:15:53.040
Goat puppet Kenosha: We thought we were going to be talking about bus shelters and all the pretty things that are going to happen when the homeless, take advantage of it.

2493
04:15:53.640 --> 04:16:03.990
Goat puppet Kenosha: Like what oh that makes they could steal the monitors, they can rip out the wiring yes, I can do all kinds of things, including reroute the to Tony.

2494
04:16:04.440 --> 04:16:14.640
Goat puppet Kenosha: and get those generators up and running so in the next explosion happens the dwp will be called and your tax dollars will be hard work with our Union of bread.

2495
04:16:15.660 --> 04:16:19.560
Goat puppet Kenosha: I hope you can get that truck driver on the line he knows a lot about this.

2496
04:16:19.830 --> 04:16:28.590
james murez: Thank you, that was your minute, you had the chance okay let's move on to 713 go ahead, please unmute yourself.

2497
04:16:31.110 --> 04:16:49.830
1561****713: hi I love to see a motion similar to this that incorporates a public free wi fi in USB charging into these type of high tech bus shelters, so that people can attend these meetings that actually are stakeholders in so a debt or says a definition, thank you.

2498
04:16:50.310 --> 04:16:52.530
james murez: Thank you that's a very good idea.

2499
04:16:53.340 --> 04:16:59.820
james murez: Not tonight, but it's a good idea we'll bring it back another night i'm Elizabeth right go ahead, please.

2500
04:17:03.090 --> 04:17:20.070
Elizabeth Wright: The one of the original bus shelters were put in it came before the neighborhood Council and that you had an option to select which of eight advertisement would go into the shelter and the neighborhood Council and its wisdom, said we don't want any.

2501
04:17:21.300 --> 04:17:38.400
Elizabeth Wright: So we got nothing, this time, at least get a a window for public information so that the neighborhood Council can be advertised and can use it for things like this is the winner of our latest art contest and and things of that sort.

2502
04:17:40.140 --> 04:17:40.500
Elizabeth Wright: Thank you.

2503
04:17:41.190 --> 04:17:42.210
Thank you Elizabeth.

2504
04:17:43.980 --> 04:17:44.580
james murez: i'm.

2505
04:17:46.050 --> 04:17:47.190
james murez: Helen go ahead, please.

2506
04:17:49.500 --> 04:18:02.730
Helen Fallon: I happen to hate led digital billboards with a passion, seems to me, this is just the city trying to figure out ways to get revenue off of bus shelters and put little mini billboards up we don't need this.

2507
04:18:03.660 --> 04:18:22.920
Helen Fallon: it's just visually it's visual blight so don't support the idea of having all these little billboards all over yes make these shelters usable for people we don't need all this advertising, just so they can raise revenue from it it's a bad way to raise revenue thanks.

2508
04:18:24.630 --> 04:18:27.720
james murez: Thank you, Robin miras go ahead, please.

2509
04:18:29.910 --> 04:18:37.500
Robin Murez: I Helen took the words out of my mouth of visual blight and I remember years back with it was that Jim that decry whatever that.

2510
04:18:38.130 --> 04:18:46.920
Robin Murez: Company is that put that sign billboard that's like on the corner of Main Street and Abbot kinney I mean we need less advertising.

2511
04:18:47.880 --> 04:19:00.000
Robin Murez: Bus shelters can be used for public art that's something that could be worthwhile and I, like the other person's comment about having a be some kind of chargeable zone for.

2512
04:19:01.620 --> 04:19:04.950
Robin Murez: Technology if people need, but nowhere advertising.

2513
04:19:06.750 --> 04:19:09.660
james murez: Thank you, Robin Lisa redmond go ahead, please.

2514
04:19:11.040 --> 04:19:12.030
Lisa Redmond: yeah i'm.

2515
04:19:16.440 --> 04:19:20.520
james murez: Oh wait Lisa That was my fault start over Thank you.

2516
04:19:21.480 --> 04:19:27.660
Lisa Redmond: I don't think any of us need the Las Vegas ization of our bus shelters in Venice.

2517
04:19:29.310 --> 04:19:29.730
Lisa Redmond: So.

2518
04:19:31.050 --> 04:19:33.240
Lisa Redmond: i'm not yeah i'm not for this.

2519
04:19:34.530 --> 04:19:49.350
Lisa Redmond: But you know if it helps to have lit up billboards that would display what stakeholder rules are to help the board members really fully understand it, then I would be for it, so you know take that with a grain of salt, thank you.

2520
04:19:50.640 --> 04:19:58.230
james murez: grain of salt taken Thank you Lisa That was the last of the public speakers public comment is close I see some hands up.

2521
04:19:59.040 --> 04:19:59.340
yeah.

2522
04:20:00.540 --> 04:20:05.880
james murez: yeah hold on one SEC I just need to remove Lisa redmond's hand here.

2523
04:20:09.510 --> 04:20:13.260
james murez: There we go i'm a leak go ahead, please.

2524
04:20:13.410 --> 04:20:19.440
Alix Gucovsky: I think there's a lot of confusion on this motion and I just wanted to speak to it, since i'm somewhat familiar with it.

2525
04:20:20.760 --> 04:20:36.570
Alix Gucovsky: Essentially what's happening is this, we have to stop program which is referenced in this Council file and what the city is doing is they're going to clear this program through a mitigated negative declaration and not do a full eir.

2526
04:20:37.110 --> 04:20:43.620
Alix Gucovsky: to identify like some possible challenges with what the city is proposing, and if you read the motion.

2527
04:20:43.860 --> 04:20:53.940
Alix Gucovsky: they're saying like Look, we know we need you know shelters in fact we think we need more than the 3000 bus shelters plan, but we need to really look at some alternatives and possibly address.

2528
04:20:54.540 --> 04:21:08.880
Alix Gucovsky: You know, environmental concerns safety concerns etc and and have a much more public discourse about this program that is really all this is asking for, I hope that clarifies it, and this is indeed time sensitive we're almost past the deadline.

2529
04:21:09.420 --> 04:21:11.280
james murez: Thank you, Jim RON go ahead, please.

2530
04:21:11.880 --> 04:21:22.170
James Robb: yeah the electric bike I kind of agree with everybody else I don't think we need billboards on all of our park digs I think like they said.

2531
04:21:23.040 --> 04:21:35.310
James Robb: stuff for free wi fi or something like that I think would be more economical, so I really don't know how to vote on this, but if it's electric signs on the bus stops i'm going to say no thanks.

2532
04:21:37.740 --> 04:21:40.110
james murez: yeah that's it's not about electric.

2533
04:21:41.190 --> 04:21:49.080
james murez: signs on the bus stops about having them create an environmental impact report that would create a public input process.

2534
04:21:49.470 --> 04:22:01.620
james murez: Otherwise, there is no public input process if we want to have electric chargers or or wi fi which creates a whole different scenario of problems but free wi fi at the bus the bus.

2535
04:22:02.100 --> 04:22:16.200
james murez: The bus stops that's the point that needs to be understood is if we approve this tonight we're asking to be able to have public input during the environmental impact report process right now we don't have that.

2536
04:22:16.470 --> 04:22:18.180
James Robb: Thank you yeah.

2537
04:22:20.370 --> 04:22:21.510
james murez: see my go ahead, please.

2538
04:22:23.940 --> 04:22:24.930
james murez: unmute yourself Sema.

2539
04:22:28.110 --> 04:22:40.830
Sima Kostovetsky: I just want to say that you know to daffodils point, given that there are so that there are a number of these, I know that, for example, the constituents in my neighborhood are really concerned and.

2540
04:22:42.180 --> 04:22:42.990
Sima Kostovetsky: So yeah.

2541
04:22:45.270 --> 04:22:49.470
Sima Kostovetsky: But I think we need to look into this further, thank you, thank you.

2542
04:22:50.010 --> 04:22:53.430
james murez: i'm daffodil yours is the last hand I see up go ahead, please.

2543
04:22:54.090 --> 04:22:59.310
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm just quickly leaks, what is the date that's the deadline, when you say it's time sensitive, what is it.

2544
04:23:01.260 --> 04:23:02.220
james murez: unmute leaks.

2545
04:23:03.180 --> 04:23:09.120
Alix Gucovsky: Oh Sorry, I believe it was by November 12 that's what I saw sort of floating around in an email so.

2546
04:23:09.390 --> 04:23:21.480
Alix Gucovsky: Sometimes there's some grace days were cup comments are still submitted, so I think it would be in our best interest to support this and get a letter at a CIS into the Council file like ASAP.

2547
04:23:21.960 --> 04:23:28.650
Daffodil Tyminski: Right okay yeah I don't I don't see that anywhere but to the greater point I mean all this is asking for is.

2548
04:23:29.040 --> 04:23:35.580
Daffodil Tyminski: Our agreement as the dnc that we support this greater motion which is basically to.

2549
04:23:36.000 --> 04:23:45.750
Daffodil Tyminski: Make sure that we have a say in what goes on these bus stops because it's not just the digital signage, but I think is a leaks pointed out early on it's the data collection they're going to have.

2550
04:23:46.440 --> 04:23:57.480
Daffodil Tyminski: Data basically you know aggregators at these bus stations So even if you're not using the bus, but you have any walking by like there'll be able to scrape the data from your phone, etc.

2551
04:23:58.080 --> 04:24:12.030
Daffodil Tyminski: So part of this is normally they would have to be a full environmental impact, to get that done the city's asking the wave it because the city does not want input from the Community on what goes into all these places, so all we're asking here, I think, is to.

2552
04:24:13.920 --> 04:24:20.280
Daffodil Tyminski: Make sure that we have a say and we support them, not unilaterally doing this without the you know our input.

2553
04:24:20.700 --> 04:24:24.480
Alix Gucovsky: And Jeff Just to give you some context on the timing sorry Jim, if I may.

2554
04:24:24.930 --> 04:24:36.990
Alix Gucovsky: um this was that you know I received that the Bureau of engineering issued and mitigated negative declaration for the staff digital ads street furniture program on October 14 for a 30 day review period ending on November 12.

2555
04:24:37.500 --> 04:24:54.960
Alix Gucovsky: and basically what they're just barely allowed time for some of the neighborhood Councils to you know give proper input, many of them would have received this mnd after the October, so you know I hope we support this and I hope we get to see is out like ASAP.

2556
04:24:56.730 --> 04:25:07.740
james murez: Okay um I think i'm going to close public comment on this and, or at least committee comment and let's move forward, I also receive that 12 as the date.

2557
04:25:08.220 --> 04:25:26.640
james murez: And I know that a Community impact statement that's file on any Council file continues to travel with that Council file for the rest of its file time, so if we get it in there, it gives us a point of argument in the future, and for that reason alone, even if it is four or five days late.

2558
04:25:27.690 --> 04:25:33.330
james murez: It doesn't really matter it, it still ends up on the file so let's take a vote, Melissa go ahead, please.

2559
04:25:34.410 --> 04:25:38.250
melissadiner: Okay, and for the record who's filing this he is.

2560
04:25:38.550 --> 04:25:47.640
james murez: So we don't know so far i've so far I believe i'm the only one that's actually stepped up to take care of doing it i've done three of them, so far, based on prior meetings.

2561
04:25:47.850 --> 04:25:57.030
james murez: So I assume that tomorrow, my duties will be wake up in the morning and file a Community impact statement that is is published here on the.

2562
04:25:57.600 --> 04:26:07.710
melissadiner: OK cool so you're assigning yourself i'm sure myself and other people that have been assigned in the past to do this would like to help I just need to be educated, as to how.

2563
04:26:08.160 --> 04:26:17.010
james murez: You still are assigned is what Freddie explained to me and so as elite both of you guys were previously assigned you both have.

2564
04:26:17.370 --> 04:26:23.460
james murez: usernames and passwords if you forgotten what they are, he can give them to you again, I believe.

2565
04:26:23.910 --> 04:26:34.800
james murez: We originally said that daffodil and Andre would both also be able to do it, and I think that Freddie sent out an email at one point that talked about what they had to do.

2566
04:26:35.130 --> 04:26:46.410
james murez: to sign up to be able to do it, he he doesn't mind getting you the information, and I also have the contact at the city clerk's office that I can share with anybody that needs help with it.

2567
04:26:47.790 --> 04:26:56.520
james murez: There is a bit of a training program that they have you go through that I think took me all of about 10 minutes to read that explains how you have to do what you do.

2568
04:26:57.150 --> 04:26:59.640
melissadiner: Great well Maybe you can send that to everyone that.

2569
04:27:00.150 --> 04:27:02.940
james murez: We can we can zoom meeting on it, but let's do it offline at.

2570
04:27:02.940 --> 04:27:03.330
james murez: Some other.

2571
04:27:03.360 --> 04:27:06.720
Alix Gucovsky: We do this offline and like move on with the meeting yeah yep.

2572
04:27:06.780 --> 04:27:09.690
melissadiner: I just want to pop it in the motion who's doing it Jim.

2573
04:27:10.080 --> 04:27:11.700
melissadiner: Yes, that's it oh.

2574
04:27:11.970 --> 04:27:14.250
melissadiner: Yes, I will yes please.

2575
04:27:14.550 --> 04:27:15.780
melissadiner: Yes, vicki.

2576
04:27:16.080 --> 04:27:16.530
Yes.

2577
04:27:19.320 --> 04:27:19.980
ElizabethClay: Yes.

2578
04:27:22.380 --> 04:27:23.040
soledad ursua: Yes.

2579
04:27:23.460 --> 04:27:24.210
melissadiner: James rob.

2580
04:27:26.220 --> 04:27:26.850
melissadiner: me go.

2581
04:27:28.140 --> 04:27:28.620
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

2582
04:27:29.970 --> 04:27:30.480
clark brown: No.

2583
04:27:31.770 --> 04:27:32.310
melissadiner: Robert.

2584
04:27:33.060 --> 04:27:33.540
Yes.

2585
04:27:35.370 --> 04:27:35.940
Bruno Hernandez: Yes.

2586
04:27:39.000 --> 04:27:39.690
melissadiner: cj.

2587
04:27:44.550 --> 04:27:45.240
melissadiner: cj.

2588
04:27:46.080 --> 04:27:47.190
james murez: Is she still here.

2589
04:27:49.800 --> 04:27:52.860
melissadiner: don't believe she is all over.

2590
04:27:58.530 --> 04:27:59.040
Oliver Fries: Yes.

2591
04:27:59.670 --> 04:28:01.740
Jason Sugars: Jason yes.

2592
04:28:02.490 --> 04:28:03.000
hi.

2593
04:28:08.010 --> 04:28:08.400
melissadiner: hi.

2594
04:28:08.670 --> 04:28:11.010
james murez: cries here but muted and her videos off.

2595
04:28:12.720 --> 04:28:13.920
melissadiner: absent Sema.

2596
04:28:17.310 --> 04:28:18.090
Sima Kostovetsky: Is there.

2597
04:28:19.290 --> 04:28:20.190
Andrea Boccaletti: I just said yes.

2598
04:28:21.930 --> 04:28:23.970
melissadiner: Okay Can she say yes.

2599
04:28:27.240 --> 04:28:29.220
James Robb: I don't think our phones work as.

2600
04:28:29.790 --> 04:28:32.640
james murez: Put your thumb up or shake your head yes.

2601
04:28:34.680 --> 04:28:36.720
james murez: See miss shaking her head and so is Chi.

2602
04:28:37.980 --> 04:28:40.890
james murez: they're both they're both shaking their head yes okay.

2603
04:28:41.190 --> 04:28:41.970
Sima Kostovetsky: i'm a witness.

2604
04:28:42.000 --> 04:28:43.320
Sima Kostovetsky: To tired shaking my head.

2605
04:28:43.710 --> 04:28:45.510
melissadiner: So 17 01.

2606
04:28:45.810 --> 04:28:47.040
james murez: Is your thumb up Thank you.

2607
04:28:47.490 --> 04:28:49.740
melissadiner: 17 zero.

2608
04:28:50.130 --> 04:28:52.140
james murez: 17 10710 there was one no okay.

2609
04:28:52.230 --> 04:28:55.020
james murez: Thank you let's just go back and.

2610
04:28:55.080 --> 04:28:59.940
melissadiner: Precise 16 one zero because i'm cj gone 16 ones okay.

2611
04:29:00.660 --> 04:29:13.410
james murez: So we got through that on and the last thing board members announcements on subjects within the dnc jurisdiction anybody have anything that they want to share tonight, otherwise i'm going to call it.

2612
04:29:14.910 --> 04:29:15.210
Vicki Halliday: When.

2613
04:29:16.560 --> 04:29:18.540
james murez: I see two hands up Chi go ahead.

2614
04:29:22.530 --> 04:29:26.700
james murez: Maybe her head was up from before it went down okay i'll leave your hand is still up.

2615
04:29:27.300 --> 04:29:40.800
Alix Gucovsky: There, I just wanted to say something i've seen a lot of like emails and listen to the meetings and I, I just wanted to remind both the public and the board, we all are volunteers and everyone on this board works incredibly incredibly hard.

2616
04:29:41.910 --> 04:29:45.720
Alix Gucovsky: And I just hope as like we move forward for things in the future, we can.

2617
04:29:46.500 --> 04:30:03.090
Alix Gucovsky: You know, perhaps adjust our tone as we speak to each other and to members of the public, I know there's a lot of frustration, right now, but again no one's paid to do this, and every single one of you works incredibly hard so that's really all I wanted to say happy thanksgiving everyone.

2618
04:30:04.050 --> 04:30:06.090
clark brown: Happy thanksgiving happy thanksgiving.

2619
04:30:06.270 --> 04:30:13.740
melissadiner: Oh, can I just say that the Minutes have been posted so if anyone wants to roast me and my Minutes have at it.

2620
04:30:14.520 --> 04:30:16.110
james murez: Your minutes a big poster from tonight.

2621
04:30:17.910 --> 04:30:18.300
melissadiner: yep.

2622
04:30:18.660 --> 04:30:21.060
james murez: wow good job excellent.

2623
04:30:21.090 --> 04:30:21.630
james murez: Thank you.

2624
04:30:21.900 --> 04:30:24.300
james murez: i'm James rob go ahead, please.

2625
04:30:25.050 --> 04:30:35.700
James Robb: I just forgot to take Robert for attending my ocean for a walk scooter meeting and I didn't want to forget you, thank you, Robert for parking and transportation for coming to my meeting.

2626
04:30:36.360 --> 04:30:41.280
james murez: There you go that that's teamwork we like that Andre go ahead, you got your hand up.

2627
04:30:42.210 --> 04:30:47.700
Andrea Boccaletti: yeah I really just two things I mean, I want to adjust what solid dad have a start up a couple times during the meeting.

2628
04:30:48.150 --> 04:30:56.520
Andrea Boccaletti: That, if there are people that are speaking, that are not Community stakeholders that we identify that and we keep them from speaking because it's just not right and i'm part of the.

2629
04:30:57.870 --> 04:31:00.390
Andrea Boccaletti: stakeholders and the other thing is.

2630
04:31:02.850 --> 04:31:03.330
Andrea Boccaletti: Just for.

2631
04:31:05.760 --> 04:31:13.470
james murez: Well, while you're thinking about it, I will just tell you that i've been given instructions by the people at done that.

2632
04:31:14.490 --> 04:31:20.490
james murez: pretty much everybody's a stakeholder and and it's very, very difficult for us to try and determine who isn't who isn't.

2633
04:31:21.150 --> 04:31:37.410
james murez: Under the current under the current regulations, the people living on the street, are all considered stakeholders, they were allowed to vote in in our elections, and so, for us to be able to pick out somebody that's living in their camper or or on the street.

2634
04:31:37.740 --> 04:31:39.450
james murez: wasn't it wasn't that.

2635
04:31:39.720 --> 04:31:43.050
Andrea Boccaletti: It was people that were living in mar vista that are not.

2636
04:31:43.260 --> 04:31:57.210
james murez: Sorry they're not and again if they're if they're not participating in doing business in Venice, I mean if they come in, they and they you know frequent a restaurant that makes them a stakeholder participated.

2637
04:31:57.240 --> 04:32:12.810
james murez: And another very, very, very difficult solo that I see you shaking your head, we can discuss it offline if you can prove me wrong, we will be much more strict about it, but I can't be more strict about it until we can challenge the city and say look, this is the issue at this point.

2638
04:32:13.890 --> 04:32:21.300
james murez: they've defined what it is and we have to go with that, and if you want to challenge it i'm happy to work with you on that that might be a new committee, you can create.

2639
04:32:21.750 --> 04:32:31.290
james murez: And, and however you want to deal with it i'm happy to work with you on it, but until the city gives us some other way of handling it, we have to handle it the way that they say.

2640
04:32:31.830 --> 04:32:43.950
james murez: Going the other little thing was true, I just want to mention the daffodil that's true also about people swearing at us, they are allowed to do that and every video that I post, I have to make the video.

2641
04:32:44.490 --> 04:32:53.100
james murez: Child it's you know that the YouTube before I put up the videos of the meetings, it always asked is this thing okay for children and I always have to say no.

2642
04:32:53.490 --> 04:33:08.010
james murez: Because the city has said, we cannot restrict them from using foul language they're allowed to do it, they do it at City Council meetings, I agree with you it's not appropriate, but we don't have the jurisdiction to cut them off because of it.

2643
04:33:09.120 --> 04:33:11.820
Andrea Boccaletti: that's a real pity I wish people would be more respectful and.

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james murez: I completely agree and and and the idea that we're all volunteers all try to do our best job and people want to just you know, give us a ration of crap is just wrong, but what can I say that's the way the rules work.

2645
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Andrea Boccaletti: And the other thing was just if we could be just be a little more clear on how to raise a hand and how to speak at the meeting, there are some older people.

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Andrea Boccaletti: that are more challenged with this technology so if we could just help them to become parts of the Community, I know there were some people that really wanted to speak tonight and they've got some real issues and they weren't able to do it.

2647
04:33:47.790 --> 04:33:48.150
james murez: yep.

2648
04:33:48.210 --> 04:33:49.560
james murez: We were working on it.

2649
04:33:49.680 --> 04:33:51.270
james murez: With Robert you have your hand up go ahead.

2650
04:33:52.110 --> 04:33:53.850
robertthibodeau: Bernard is do you want to go first.

2651
04:33:54.330 --> 04:33:55.830
james murez: Bruno you want to go first go ahead.

2652
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Bruno Hernandez: Sure, thanks, I just wanted to let everybody know that will be at oakwood park Saturday morning giving out turkeys and food boxes, so if you know any families that need any help come through it's not a homeless of and strictly just anybody that needs a little bit of help this holiday.

2653
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Bruno Hernandez: lose anyone.

2654
04:34:14.580 --> 04:34:14.910
james murez: Who is.

2655
04:34:15.480 --> 04:34:16.500
james murez: Who is we Bruno.

2656
04:34:17.250 --> 04:34:32.640
Bruno Hernandez: me what organization, the Venice are was district 11 reckon park I don't know just a host of different organizations asked him to post the flyer So if you look at the website you'll see that the different collaborating agencies.

2657
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james murez: Oh great Thank you very much.

2658
04:34:37.530 --> 04:34:39.300
james murez: Okay, Robert now use your hand.

2659
04:34:40.320 --> 04:34:44.940
robertthibodeau: I just wanted to remind everybody on the board that there is an additional training that.

2660
04:34:45.480 --> 04:34:49.110
robertthibodeau: needs to be compelled before the next dnc meeting and.

2661
04:34:51.690 --> 04:34:59.100
robertthibodeau: anyways there's an additional training that needs to be completed before the dnc meeting so email Jim or dad or myself and.

2662
04:35:00.510 --> 04:35:04.650
robertthibodeau: And we can turn you on to the link, just so find.

2663
04:35:05.220 --> 04:35:06.600
Alix Gucovsky: What is the training again.

2664
04:35:06.690 --> 04:35:08.340
james murez: it's the bias, training and.

2665
04:35:08.340 --> 04:35:10.410
robertthibodeau: eyes, I bias training yeah.

2666
04:35:10.830 --> 04:35:12.540
james murez: It takes a little over an hour.

2667
04:35:13.080 --> 04:35:24.720
james murez: Oh it's another one of these ones where they read the questions to you and then after three or four questions you have for three or four statements of examples and they ask you a question and you know if you get it wrong.

2668
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james murez: They let you go ahead, but you got to keep going back to getting it right.

2669
04:35:29.790 --> 04:35:40.230
robertthibodeau: Did I think it's do before the next dnc meeting so if you're at and theoretically you shouldn't be voting at the meeting unless you've done it so that's why I was kind of giving everybody a heads up.

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robertthibodeau: Thanks yep.

2671
04:35:43.200 --> 04:35:44.490
james murez: NICO you have your hand up.

2672
04:35:46.290 --> 04:35:53.040
Nico Ruderman: I do i'm wondering if there's a way that we can we didn't get to general public comments until after nine o'clock tonight.

2673
04:35:53.520 --> 04:36:03.210
Nico Ruderman: i'm wondering if there's a way, maybe we can discuss this at ag COM to to pump that up for people who want to be heard, but maybe need to get off the meeting earlier than than nine o'clock.

2674
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james murez: yeah I think myself, I think that that was a mistake and how the agenda was set up, usually they come before the financial stuff and I think that somehow those two items got.

2675
04:36:16.260 --> 04:36:25.620
james murez: mixed up but i'm not sure we'll go back and look at previous agendas, I agree, we should have had them up as early as possible, and we should have also had lapd on before anything else too so.

2676
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Alix Gucovsky: Jim Can I make a suggestion that maybe everyone tries to show up at 10 to seven so that we're all in and ready to go at seven o'clock rather than at 710 or whatever we start our meetings.

2677
04:36:38.070 --> 04:36:43.230
james murez: yeah and let's try and start our meetings at six o'clock so we can get done earlier Jason go ahead, please.

2678
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Jason Sugars: Your hand I just a really quick really quick note I just think that the three words not limited to make it hard to so narrowly defined who would be a share a stakeholder.

2679
04:36:56.880 --> 04:37:06.330
Jason Sugars: Which three even what you read at the end of our sentence that said, including but not limited to those things that she listed off, which means, if you want to make changes that simple language leaves it pretty open.

2680
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james murez: Okay, so that's so you're suggesting, could you do me a favor could you send your suggestion to the rules and selections committee or to Oliver so.

2681
04:37:17.190 --> 04:37:17.700
Jason Sugars: Absolutely.

2682
04:37:17.880 --> 04:37:19.800
james murez: We can take a look at that, in the committee.

2683
04:37:20.850 --> 04:37:23.640
james murez: So thank you Sema.

2684
04:37:25.170 --> 04:37:25.830
james murez: your hands up.

2685
04:37:28.530 --> 04:37:40.800
Sima Kostovetsky: I just want to remind everyone that we have a video tutorial on how to use zoom that the outreach Committee did and it's available on our website i'm happy to repost it again.

2686
04:37:42.300 --> 04:37:45.060
Sima Kostovetsky: So yeah we have a an archive of.

2687
04:37:46.080 --> 04:37:54.930
Sima Kostovetsky: YouTube videos that I hope to grow in terms of helping the Community, but that definitely except for those colors that are struggling just wanted to put that out there.

2688
04:37:55.140 --> 04:37:58.560
james murez: What can we put it on it, because we click on this link at the beginning of our agenda.

2689
04:38:01.020 --> 04:38:01.200
Sima Kostovetsky: So.

2690
04:38:01.770 --> 04:38:03.180
Sima Kostovetsky: Okay that's a great idea.

2691
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james murez: let's do that in December.

2692
04:38:06.060 --> 04:38:11.730
james murez: Okay anybody else have their hand up at this point there's only one other thing that I will mention still.

2693
04:38:12.510 --> 04:38:22.980
james murez: In December, rules and selections we're going to be looking at the parliamentarians role and and that needs to be discussed and i'll be putting in an agenda request for that.

2694
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james murez: Very shortly, the issue has been discussed and explained to me by the city attorney and by done and and we want to as a collective as a board, we want to define.

2695
04:38:39.180 --> 04:38:45.510
james murez: What the role is of the parliamentarian, where there are some Gray areas that that need to be clarified.

2696
04:38:45.870 --> 04:38:51.690
james murez: And, actually, it will be very appropriate that everybody's taken the bias, training, first because.

2697
04:38:52.050 --> 04:38:58.950
james murez: The part that's the most unclear in our bylaws about the parliamentarians rule is that he needs to be unbiased.

2698
04:38:59.220 --> 04:39:11.340
james murez: And until we take the bias training we really don't know what they're talking about about being unbiased so it's very appropriate timing and we'll look at that, in December, and hopefully before the end of the year, we can get it out as a.

2699
04:39:12.000 --> 04:39:16.410
james murez: As a standing rule and then next year when we start to adopt the new bylaws.

2700
04:39:16.830 --> 04:39:28.050
james murez: Because it takes some number of months and I don't know how i've never done it before but it's a process of submitting the bylaws to the city and then they return them to us as an approved adopted set.

2701
04:39:28.350 --> 04:39:38.970
james murez: And so, to be able to get new rules on in the short term, we need to adopt them first as a standing rule and then we'll take them out of our standing rules which were allowed to modify it anytime we want.

2702
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james murez: And, and once they're in the permanent violence, having said that.

2703
04:39:45.900 --> 04:39:47.970
james murez: I call this meeting over it is.

2704
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james murez: Like 1135 Thank you all, and everybody has a great.

2705
04:39:52.020 --> 04:39:53.340
Alix Gucovsky: Giving everybody.

2706
04:39:54.090 --> 04:39:58.710
james murez: thanksgiving don't forget, we have a toy drive at the farmers market bring brand new gifts, thank you.

2707
04:39:59.340 --> 04:40:00.510
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks, thank you.

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bye bye.