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james murez: Good evening, good evening.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Good evening.

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james murez: Did you see my email.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Now i'll check my email.

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james murez: yeah That would be an important one, to start with.

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james murez: That will you have a copy and.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I see a number of emails.

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james murez: Well, would have been within the last 20 minutes.

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james murez: And and Mike.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Mike rob will be here.

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james murez: Mike bravo email he's not going to be making it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I saw his email emailed him back saying thanks for letting us know.

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james murez: Okay, good so today.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The city just could make this all so much easier than they do I mean.

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Daffodil Tyminski: They should just do one training module.

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james murez: yeah.

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james murez: You shouldn't have to have some type of special email access only to you buy them for each one of the trainings.

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james murez: he's Andre on a head calm.

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Yes.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Excuse me one second i'm just gonna go plug my phone I realized.

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james murez: Yes, Ivan go ahead and speak.

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Ivan: Can you put me on the panel, please.

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james murez: um I suppose so.

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Thank you.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And I am in my ad COM what what.

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james murez: I can't remember anything I couldn't remember if you posted the mirror report.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Did.

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james murez: yeah well, I had to go find it you see my email.

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Andrea Boccaletti: No, but the america's EMEA is under.

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james murez: I had to go look for it that's all Okay, when you do your agenda request you should always include the link to the reports.

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Andrea Boccaletti: When I do the agenda requests.

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james murez: So yes, at the after you do your minutes you post your minutes to the website after you post, the Minutes to the website, because the Minutes have to have the mirror report link in them.

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james murez: But you take that same near report link, along with the motion of approval from your committee, and you post all of that into an agenda request on the board for the board to be able to then receive it, and then all of that information is in one place, at one point in time.

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james murez: Who else is on his alley on the outcome, I forget I think she is.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, she is.

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james murez: Clark know Helen know.

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james murez: Nick no.

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james murez: More no Lisa redmond know.

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Alley Bean: hi.

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hi.

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Alley Bean: Wait my video there cuz.

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Alley Bean: I know Mike bravo can't come because it's indigenous people stay.

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james murez: Really, I thought it was Columbus day.

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Alley Bean: They changed it did you know that.

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Alley Bean: legally binding changed it to indigenous peoples day forever.

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james murez: Oh, I didn't know that.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, oh changed, not in conjunction.

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Alley Bean: I think I don't know.

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james murez: He may Columbus is the one that started it all right.

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james murez: Well he's the one that he's like the one that made the big move.

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Alley Bean: over here.

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Alley Bean: that's true right.

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Alley Bean: So it's.

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Alley Bean: So.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Probably have quorum right.

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Do we.

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Alley Bean: Is NICO here yep.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Is that yes.

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james murez: So who are we missing Melissa and Mike bravo.

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And Mike brown Jason.

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Alley Bean: Jason sugars.

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james murez: Going Jason.

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james murez: 1234 out of six know is there, eight of us.

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Ivan: form is for for outcome.

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james murez: Always Ivan is not one you're right.

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Ivan: No i'm not quorum.

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james murez: was just counting the boxes I wasn't reading the names.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah well, we have a quorum, though, I think.

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james murez: We could get started okay let's get started.

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james murez: um do you want to bring up the agenda and and all that you go through it.

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james murez: Or should I do that.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um I it'd be easier, I think you did it I can manage people's speaking.

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james murez: Okay um.

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Let me see if I can find it.

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Alley Bean: That, I can see who the participants are just out of curiosity.

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james murez: Yes, you go down to the bottom.

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Alley Bean: I hit participants.

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james murez: Right and then on one side, it says.

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james murez: panel and on the other side it.

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says attendee.

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Just just want to see who's here.

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Alley Bean: No, no big deal I can't oh there I see got it got it.

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james murez: Okay cool okay.

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james murez: So def can I work off of my word version.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, I that's why I say you can just do it scribe as we go.

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james murez: Okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: All right, and then Melissa just joined the meeting.

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Alley Bean: Here yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um and then.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I just work with Melissa on the back end put it.

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james murez: yeah I just assumed that i'll take the.

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james murez: minutes and that'll be that.

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Alley Bean: she's here.

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james murez: Yet, but that's Okay, I think i'm going to do it anyway.

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james murez: Oh okay i'll explain in a second.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, just had some formatting issues between word and the other document thing, so we have we're sorting out.

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Alley Bean: got it.

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james murez: Let me screen share this here we go.

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james murez: And so.

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james murez: This off the screen, and let me go up here to you.

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james murez: Oh wait, I have to let Melissa and hold on a second.

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james murez: I have to stop sharing on and on Okay, I can do it from here.

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james murez: let's the diner.

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james murez: emote.

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james murez: devil i'm going to just in case for some reason, we were to get.

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james murez: disconnected because of this terrible weather, I mean it's really blowing windy over here i'm going to make you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Here so.

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james murez: i'm going to make you co host as well.

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james murez: Melissa should now be in Melissa you're in.

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melissa diner: Okay.

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james murez: let's i'm going to go ahead and.

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james murez: Take the Minutes.

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james murez: And I will.

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james murez: I will, I will deal with this and we can figure it out on the on the back end okay after the meeting or something.

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melissa diner: But so then, what does that mean, do you need me like if you don't want it, you can do it that's totally fine anyone can take their own minutes, but you are you saying don't want me to take minutes.

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james murez: Oh yeah i'm going to take minutes for tonight.

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melissa diner: Because i'm doing it.

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james murez: i'm doing it from a word Doc, and so I just want to be able to keep track of it, and then you don't want to have to deal with the word Doc.

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melissa diner: Well, I mean I don't have to deal with the word Doc if I just take the Minutes.

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james murez: Oh Okay, well, we can both do it.

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melissa diner: Okay that's fine.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah she was most of Jim was reformatting stuff and I just didn't have enough time.

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Daffodil Tyminski: To.

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Daffodil Tyminski: get it done, I mean.

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melissa diner: All yeah for my that I I I just as happens, sometimes I just didn't have time to format it for the draft version which is add calm, but like you know it'll all be reformat it, as it always is for the for the jenna.

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james murez: Okay, so i've already reformatted so at least I could read it, and at this point i'm going to go through the reformatted version so let's call this meeting to order at 709.

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james murez: and

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james murez: daffodil are you here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I am here.

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james murez: Okay, Jim yours is here, Melissa are you here.

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james murez: Well, this is here Mike bravo is not here, let me just quickly.

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james murez: comment him out here.

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james murez: Not here.

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james murez: i'm allie is here Jason sugars did he arrived.

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james murez: And somebody look at the palace and see here, I can do that.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I do not think he is here.

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james murez: Okay, so he comes in, somebody has to let us know by him raising his hand or something.

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james murez: Okay um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'll keep an eye on it to.

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james murez: Okay, thank you.

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james murez: My screen is being shared it's really hard to yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I know.

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james murez: NICO are you here.

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Nico Ruderman: i'm here.

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james murez: Great Thank you Andre are you here.

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james murez: Andre.

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james murez: We need a verbal commitment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You know he is not on at the moment.

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james murez: He was here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: He was here we.

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Nico Ruderman: All text real quick see what's up.

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james murez: Maybe the wind knocked him out okay well let's keep going.

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james murez: um.

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james murez: Approval of that standing administrative committee meeting minutes oh they're not included here, so we have to go to the next.

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melissa diner: We have wait hold on do we have a quorum.

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james murez: Yes, we have a quorum.

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melissa diner: Great Thank you.

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james murez: takes for for a quorum we have for.

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james murez: announcements and public comment on items, not on the agenda daffodil you want to see if there's any hands raised.

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Daffodil Tyminski: There is, we have two hands Helen fallon Lisa redmond anyone else have anything.

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Daffodil Tyminski: For it up now.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Alright, so we'll start with Lisa i'm Helen why don't you go ahead and go first.

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Helen Fallon: I just want to clarify something I was trying to look it up, but don't you have to have a majority of the committee for a quorum committee of eight correct so Why would it before just my very puzzling, and also on one of the items is coming up so well, I guess i'll address that one nevermind.

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Helen Fallon: Thank you.

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james murez: Last time I counted, we had five.

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Helen Fallon: Right Ivan said, you need only needed for so I mean let's just I mean, I think we should be clear on what.

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Ivan: was said requirements for.

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Daffodil Tyminski: It doesn't make a difference, actually, because we had five.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Right, thank you for bringing that up i'm go ahead Lisa make your comment.

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james murez: i've been called if we need you.

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Lisa Redmond: know.

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Daffodil Tyminski: say that again.

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Lisa Redmond: Is it my turn to talk others were talking.

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Daffodil Tyminski: it's your turn to talk so sorry about that go ahead.

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Lisa Redmond: i'm just going to point out that, for some people, it is a holiday and an important one, and so i'd appreciate sensitivity there, but, most importantly, it is a holiday and maybe we would consider in the future, not having meetings on days that are.

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Lisa Redmond: Technically, a holiday if it's important enough that the mail isn't delivered and banks are closed, I think it's an important enough day that possibly meeting should not be held.

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Lisa Redmond: for future reference.

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Daffodil Tyminski: thanks for that that's something we'll take in consideration.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead next with the agenda, Jim.

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james murez: Okay well we're all.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I have, I have alone.

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Daffodil Tyminski: everyone's hands.

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james murez: Ivan says he has his hand up for public comment.

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Ivan: No it's not public comments it's an announcement.

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james murez: Okay, go ahead.

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Ivan: Okay, so.

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Ivan: I was notified by the city clerk.

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Ivan: The registrations from the election are available to us, I requested them as part of my left things being the election chair and they're supposed to come out tomorrow.

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Ivan: will be getting the names and dresses and that addresses the names and emails of everybody's I registered to vote the requested a ballot.

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Ivan: Those will be handed over to the communications officer for me for a addition to our mailing list databanks.

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Ivan: that's it.

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james murez: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks.

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james murez: Okay, moving right along old administrative business there's none new administrative business.

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james murez: We have to rick requisition two requests.

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james murez: To agenda request for put in to create some new committees and can I see there's hands are yup.

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james murez: did all the hands go down daffodil.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, they did.

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james murez: Okay, so their backup so so let's move on to five a approve of public safety mission statement.

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james murez: The request was being made by Helen fallon mission, the Venice neighborhood Council public health safety committee this is identical to the old one, I think mission is to increase all aspects of personal safety, health and everybody read that Do I need to read that.

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Alley Bean: I read it, I think.

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james murez: So I think it's on the screen everybody can read it, we don't need to read it into its into the recording it's good enough.

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james murez: So we need a motion to.

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james murez: open public comment I guess.

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Alley Bean: i'll make a motion.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Also, I can it.

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james murez: can do we have names of those people.

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Daffodil Tyminski: alley.

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Daffodil Tyminski: led motion seconded.

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melissa diner: And, just to be clear, Jim it's a motion to approve the mission statement great was that you're asking for.

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Alley Bean: open public comment okay through the mission statement an open.

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james murez: door to open yet to prove the mission statement and and open public on it.

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james murez: And daffodil seconded it is that right.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, right great.

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james murez: Thank you.

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james murez: um so yeah there's two hands up, I guess, did you want to call.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Our three hands up our our all of you it's Lisa redmond Helen fallon and Eric and more.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Helen why don't since this was your request, why don't you go first.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh you're gonna have to unmute yourself.

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Helen Fallon: yeah I do.

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Helen Fallon: Okay, I think it's important that we have a public safety committee, I think this mission statement covered it all, I hope that.

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Helen Fallon: You will vote to approve this mission statement and then we'll put on the agenda on the draft agenda and Warren agenda.

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Helen Fallon: Establishment the reestablishment of this ad hoc committee Personally, I think it should be a standing committee but that's the bylaws issue.

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Helen Fallon: And more knows of that that he's ever going to address it, but meanwhile, I think this is important committee for the stakeholders to have we have a lot of attendance and a lot of interest, and it was functioning well and I would like to see it continue.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks hon.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Erica more go ahead.

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Erica Moore: hey there.

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Erica Moore: I actually.

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Erica Moore: And I was gonna say what Lisa said about not having a national holiday.

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Erica Moore: For you know bro a myriad of reasons but anyways first this I absolutely hope that you do support this because that particular committee was very effective and our community needs that.

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Erica Moore: So.

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Erica Moore: Yes, please really consider not having a meeting on a holiday that actually affects your.

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Erica Moore: absence is of our indigenous people, I mean Hello thanks.

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Andrea Boccaletti: used to be crystal clear here look what.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Right.

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james murez: This is back.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Andre is back.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Everyone knows we did consider moving the meeting, but there was not another date that we knew that we could get them in time that we can get the board agenda out in time.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So we didn't realize it was the holiday until.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Last week, you know upon us, so we are actually very sensitive to the issues we are not trying to any way to impact anyone's holiday.

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james murez: You know, we could just cancel it this point post postpone the the board meeting until next month.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah well we don't want to do that there's too many issues that we have to deal with, and so we don't want to be doing this on a holiday either, but this was what we thought was best for the Community, so we could keep the meeting going in October Lisa go ahead, you have to unmute yourself.

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Lisa Redmond: NICO it's not cool to keep bringing up that it's Columbus day um I i'm going to say that I understand the need for a public health and safety.

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Lisa Redmond: committee, but I really don't like the part of the mission statement that they talk about all the.

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Lisa Redmond: various different departments like building and safety and sanitation and animal services it basically gives them.

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Lisa Redmond: And by saying, like mind, it was similar missions that basically gives them free rein to talk about everything, and they did.

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Lisa Redmond: cross over into a lot of areas that were not part of their own bailiwick, so I would be appreciative of maybe just that line was taken out of their mission statement and the whole.

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Lisa Redmond: Area of what they discuss this tightened up.

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Alley Bean: To we.

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Lisa Redmond: are hoping.

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Lisa Redmond: They would be.

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Lisa Redmond: Fine Lisa I was talking about where it goes and all Los Angeles city departments with similar mission, such as building and safety and sanitation and animal services, you know.

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Lisa Redmond: It just kind of gives them like I said, open to be able to talk about anything and they were they were passing motions on homeless housing that had nothing to do with them, among other issues as well.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Lisa.

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Lisa Redmond: Thank you.

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james murez: Is that the end of public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Well we've got Helen with her hand up again Lisa I guess did not put her hand down, I will let her it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I think we're aware of the issue.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Is there any comment with the committee I see, we have two hands up.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Andrea why don't you go first.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay i'm in reference it wasn't NICO that made the comment about Christopher Columbus day it's been Christopher Columbus day I know it's also a indigenous peoples Day, which I absolutely.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Support absolutely.

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Andrea Boccaletti: But anyway, i'm here tonight, so um.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I also want to say that I like that line being included in there and all Los Angeles city departments for this similar mission, because we all know that building safety can cause a lot of.

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Andrea Boccaletti: You know, unsafe conditions and things for for neighborhoods as well, so let's let's keep that in there, sanitation, I like it.

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Andrea Boccaletti: that's it Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Andrea NICO go ahead, you need to unmute yourself.

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Nico Ruderman: yeah I just want to comment Lisa I didn't say a word tonight, except for presence and I in fact I was just texting my friend Mike bravo that I was offended we're having this meeting tonight, but, but thanks for the shoutout appreciate it Lisa.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Ali go ahead.

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Alley Bean: Okay, I just have a question Helen is the or Jim whoever knows the answer, is this the same exact Mr mission statement from the previous committee.

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Helen Fallon: So.

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james murez: I did I did check it and, yes, it is the idea.

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Helen Fallon: I just wanted, and I would add that it's based on those departments are under the umbrella of public health and safety in the city that's why they were okay I mentioned, thank you.

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Alley Bean: I just want I didn't want to make sure, thank you and, by the way I did speak with Mike bravo and he's he was not offended he just wasn't free and I did you know I talked to him this morning, to see if it was problem he's he's good.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thanks for that.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Jim go ahead, you have a comment.

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james murez: yeah, I just wanted to say that.

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james murez: In the past we haven't watched how the committee's have have stepped over the lines of one another in nearly as closely as we're going to in the future, this is one of the things that.

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james murez: Both daffodil and I have been working at trying to to make sure we don't have the problems that we had in the past.

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james murez: And the consideration of whether or not that line stayed in or was removed with something I thought very seriously about.

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james murez: Well, I was reading the mission statement and went back and confirm that this mission statement was the same as the previous mission statement, and it was, and I just feel like you know if if.

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james murez: This committee starts to step on toes of someone like like the land use and planning committee through building and safety issues.

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james murez: will deal with it when the time comes, and either they'll have a joint meeting or this Community this committee will probably have to step back, because the other committee is a standing committee, and it has a higher rank than an ad hoc committee.

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james murez: that's all I have to say thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You know, I have a comment but Melissa why don't you go first and i'll and i'll go.

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melissa diner: Oh, I was just gonna say not on topic, but i'm happy to add as a small constellation to today that we call our meeting to order in honor of indigenous peoples day if everyone's on board for that and I just added it as a note seven minutes.

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melissa diner: Of.

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melissa diner: board meeting.

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james murez: that's a nice gesture we can do that to you okay yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: that's great um yeah I am when when we got the request and Jim and I did talk about it and Lisa that's a great catch we we had the same thought that you did like is this too broad and then we realized it's the.

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Daffodil Tyminski: same as it was, and we realized, where the language came from, so it made sense.

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Daffodil Tyminski: But i've met with various committee heads with you know a lot of committees crossover and i've had the same conversation with everyone, which is.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Just be respectful try to stay in your lane, and if there's a problem just be open to dealing with it, so there may be, and you know I know everyone kept complaining, in the last term about this committee, you know overshooting.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Its boundaries, but I honestly think that if we just kind of collaborate on this it's not going to be that big of a deal, and I do appreciate that the language comes from the city itself.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So I throw that out there for what it is, but I do think you know Lisa to address your concern we'll keep an eye on it moving forward.

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james murez: We take a vote on this.

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james murez: We need a vote to approve the mission statement know the creation of the committee.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hmm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Can I ask a question of Ivan.

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james murez: yeah go ahead cuz I was gonna ask them to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: zoom has put us into an awkward parliamentary procedure here are either gym or I should not vote.

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Ivan: Why.

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Ivan: Because reading terrorism, leaving know you can vote.

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Ivan: Everybody can vote.

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james murez: The only only one of us is allowed to make the motion and since you're conducting the.

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Ivan: yeah whoever the Chair cannot make her second motion but vote.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'll make the motion I misunderstood the conversation we had earlier nevermind them.

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melissa diner: But then I have a point of clarification Ivan, then the original motion should just be to create the committee correct.

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Ivan: That.

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james murez: we're approving we're approving the mission statement the.

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melissa diner: original emotion was.

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melissa diner: Right yeah right.

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Ivan: All right, if it passes i'll tell you what what can go on the board agenda.

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james murez: Now, or you will.

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james murez: will do that.

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james murez: Ivan Ivan will do that offline Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: All right, go ahead, Jim call about.

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james murez: Yes, um well Okay, I have to stop sharing my screen, so I can see, who all of.

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melissa diner: It can call a boat, why do you need I mean.

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james murez: you're the one that does a.

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melissa diner: Great daffodil.

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james murez: Yes.

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melissa diner: I vote yes Ali.

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melissa diner: Yes, NICO.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

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james murez: Okay, let me share the screen again.

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james murez: We doing a lot of us tonight, it seems like.

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james murez: Okay, the next one by be um.

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james murez: Somebody want to make the motion.

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Alley Bean: I will want to make a motion to pass the approval of.

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james murez: Of this mission statement.

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Alley Bean: Of this mission statement, I will make that motion.

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james murez: The mission statement is to have a second ad hoc committee oh that's not quite what it says.

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Alley Bean: What it is.

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james murez: that's what this is yes.

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Alley Bean: Oh, to make a separate one than the other one.

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james murez: Well yeah I mean that's what's on the agenda that this was submitted as an agenda request from Lisa redmond and it's the approval of an ad hoc homeless Committee and the mission statement is here.

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james murez: Okay, so.

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james murez: Lead being Melissa great.

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james murez: i'm.

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james murez: definitely want to go ahead and take public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Sure um Lisa go ahead, you need to unmute yourself.

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Lisa Redmond: First off my apologies NICO I meant to Sandra it was a human error, I i'm I take that back i'm sorry for shouting you out.

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Lisa Redmond: I apologize i'm actually this really doesn't even need to be on the agenda because last month that didn't make the agenda and I called.

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Lisa Redmond: In there was some confusion about was it made in time or not, but anyway, you did pull it up you discussed it, it went on to the board agenda the Boards already approved this last month it's the same exact.

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Lisa Redmond: mission statement and you created the committee and named frank Murphy is the Chair it really doesn't even need to be on the agenda whatsoever it's already done.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, well then let's just move on thanks for letting it we didn't know that we probably should have reached out for clarification, but we weren't aware that you weren't intending to do something separate so.

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Alley Bean: yeah I remember.

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Lisa Redmond: I said it wasn't on and we have in there was a confusion of not making it on time, or it was on time or not anyway it's all it's a done in overthink it's all good.

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james murez: Okay, great.

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Ivan: All right, Jim.

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james murez: Is there.

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james murez: Is there any other public comment on the item on the floor.

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Alley Bean: I just had a question.

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james murez: yeah go ahead Alex.

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Alley Bean: Are you are you now the Co chair.

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james murez: The one second i'm going to close public comment on this item.

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james murez: How we go ahead.

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Alley Bean: I was just curious Lisa are you so I got confused last week to are you now the Co chair of with frank Murphy.

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Lisa Redmond: Of the woman me.

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Lisa Redmond: No, I don't think frank wants a Co chair and i'm not even sure if i'm on the committee.

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james murez: Oh okay let's let's get back let's get back to our regularly scheduled show here.

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Alley Bean: If that's her mission statement i'm just curious should yes.

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james murez: No, no that's okay Okay, so now we have to move on to Item number six consideration and approval of.

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james murez: board.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Again, someone needs to withdraw them.

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Ivan: Somebody made a motion to put to put this on the floor you.

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Ivan: have to get a motion now to remove it.

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james murez: Okay, do I can I have emotional remove this from the floor.

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Alley Bean: I make a motion.

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Andrea Boccaletti: thing today I will second to.

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james murez: Thank you Andre all those in favor say Aye.

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james murez: Aye we thought we should have a roll call vote.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I would just do it.

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james murez: yeah go ahead down.

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james murez: excuse.

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melissa diner: Yes, you go.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

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melissa diner: Great.

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james murez: Okay now back to our regularly scheduled show.

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james murez: Okay, so let's move on to.

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james murez: The Board agenda.

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james murez: Okay, so i'm Melissa in this version I already fixed the link here, just so you're aware of it.

412
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james murez: But you're going to need to put it into the one that's in the, what do you call it in the.

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melissa diner: I just gym again, this is just a draft board agenda.

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melissa diner: Anything that's final.

415
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melissa diner: We can sing on on the board agenda, no.

416
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melissa diner: problem absolutely.

417
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james murez: Okay um so item one no problem.

418
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james murez: We can approve that can we approve two.

419
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james murez: and three.

420
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james murez: and four.

421
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james murez: And five a.

422
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james murez: And five be.

423
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james murez: And six a.

424
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james murez: And six be.

425
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:03.600
melissa diner: No, no, just do it through five.

426
00:34:03.630 --> 00:34:06.510
melissa diner: Because of questions on six because.

427
00:34:06.540 --> 00:34:09.510
melissa diner: Items weren't submitted so just do it through the end of five.

428
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OK.

429
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james murez: OK, can I can, I have a motion to approve items one through five beam.

430
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Andrea Boccaletti: And today i'll make that motion.

431
00:34:24.210 --> 00:34:24.870
james murez: Who is that.

432
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:27.390
james murez: Who seconded.

433
00:34:28.080 --> 00:34:30.870
Daffodil Tyminski: I was daffodil but someone else may have spoken up as well.

434
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james murez: Thank you daffodil Andre made the motion daffodil seconded do we have any hand, we have to raise hands.

435
00:34:40.530 --> 00:34:43.950
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um Lisa redmond go ahead.

436
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Lisa Redmond: um first of all, under.

437
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Lisa Redmond: Five be government reports and b&c announcements i'll just go stay with that Tristan marler is misspelled it's Tristan T and not Tristan.

438
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Lisa Redmond: Nobody likes their name misspelled and secondly um you only list some of the committee's and not all of the committee's and so i'm starting to think if everyone's going to give committee reports at that point 15 minutes is a long time.

439
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Lisa Redmond: that's all.

440
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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

441
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Daffodil Tyminski: Helen go ahead.

442
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Helen Fallon: Jim can you scroll back up i'm not sure to five something either the stuff on the redistricting.

443
00:35:35.550 --> 00:35:38.820
james murez: yeah um I think that's farther down Oh, maybe I.

444
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Helen Fallon: was five something's up there.

445
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Helen Fallon: Right.

446
00:35:44.070 --> 00:35:45.870
Helen Fallon: Is there gonna be is this going to be.

447
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Helen Fallon: flushed out a little bit because, like.

448
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Helen Fallon: What is I don't understand it's more than a report or you've got a motion apparently.

449
00:35:57.870 --> 00:36:10.410
james murez: um yeah well we're gonna have to decide on that we need to provide the document we didn't have it for this meeting, so the red note is in there to get it onto the Boards agenda and we'll decide when we get there.

450
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Helen Fallon: That shouldn't be under new business are you going to be voting on it in the section where it's under reports and announcements, I guess that's just.

451
00:36:17.790 --> 00:36:28.440
james murez: I will have to find out from Ivan later that's a good question whether or not it needs to be here or someplace else it's possible that needs to be under new business and i'll put a note in here right now.

452
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james murez: Because it's the type of committee that it is.

453
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james murez: i'm not sure because it's a it's a task force it's not actually a so it's a task force that I created i'm not sure what's given, but I will find out, and we will do it according to whatever parliamentary procedures are Thank you Hello.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, and that's it for public comment.

455
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james murez: Okay.

456
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Ivan: um I had.

457
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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh sorry I didn't we have you're in a different screen on my view.

458
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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, good.

459
00:37:12.570 --> 00:37:31.950
Ivan: Alright, so suggestion here, the Presidents report and announcements supposed to be specific things that the President needs to tell everybody things other reports should go under number five scheduled advancement and presentation.

460
00:37:32.850 --> 00:37:36.480
james murez: Okay, so you're saying move special report for led w.

461
00:37:37.170 --> 00:37:38.610
Ivan: Both of these reports.

462
00:37:38.910 --> 00:37:42.990
Ivan: You want to make these presentations a report that's where they should go.

463
00:37:43.980 --> 00:37:45.480
Ivan: report should only be for you.

464
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james murez: got it.

465
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Okay.

466
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james murez: Okay.

467
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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Ivan okay okay So is there any other board comment.

468
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Daffodil Tyminski: Seeing on see no hands.

469
00:38:05.550 --> 00:38:06.240
Andrea Boccaletti: or comment.

470
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james murez: yeah go ahead.

471
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Andrea Boccaletti: I do want to just ask is so is that true what Lisa said about all the committee's it's it's every single committee that we have is going to give a 15 minute or as 15 minutes to give a report.

472
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james murez: I mentioned that last time, I would like every committee to give a report, but I would like to encourage all of the committee's to to pre record their reports into a two minute video.

473
00:38:30.720 --> 00:38:38.700
james murez: So we don't get carried away and have five minute reports from one and 32nd reports from somebody else it's clearly if a committee doesn't need to make a.

474
00:38:39.660 --> 00:38:49.770
james murez: Two minute report and they only need to make a 32nd report there's no reason to try and extend it out, but I would like to make sure that we try and stick on some kind of schedule and if we could pre record them.

475
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james murez: Because everybody's only able to see it in video anyway, it would also allow some of the committee chairs, to be able to give their reports, perhaps.

476
00:38:59.430 --> 00:39:08.190
james murez: In front of a bicycle zooming by on ocean walk for a house under construction or you know, whatever.

477
00:39:08.490 --> 00:39:15.390
james murez: It might make it a little bit more colorful and interesting if the reports were actually out in the field that somebody could just do with a selfie on their phone.

478
00:39:16.050 --> 00:39:25.740
james murez: It might make it more interesting so yeah, I would like to see the reports be pre recorded, and I would like to see each committee being able to make a report in your case you could be sitting in front of an adding machine.

479
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:29.130
Andrea Boccaletti: of me to my editor.

480
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james murez: There you go.

481
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james murez: It will be something to report you actually.

482
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Daffodil Tyminski: already has a report section.

483
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james murez: Now that's true you already have a report, so you probably wouldn't need to.

484
00:39:39.510 --> 00:39:47.100
Daffodil Tyminski: that that was the comment I was going to make that I don't think we need a separate spot for the budget advocates immediately followed by the Budget Committee report.

485
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james murez: Was that in here.

486
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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah i'm.

487
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Daffodil Tyminski: On five.

488
00:39:51.450 --> 00:40:00.480
james murez: Be isn't the budget advocate though my understanding is the budget advocate is a separate thing from what.

489
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james murez: The treasures job is for the dnc board, in other words it's it's participating as.

490
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Daffodil Tyminski: Well, yes, but i'm just thinking practically.

491
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james murez: yeah because in the olden days when we still were able to do live meetings, the budget advocates would all meet downtown and they would sit around and and you know.

492
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james murez: Carry on about how the mayor's budget was being handled, that would be a great background for a video if somebody was doing it live anymore.

493
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james murez: I mean, I think that if they're going to do the same kind of format, but they're going to do it on live on on a zoom call that might be the place to you know make one's recording I don't know i'm just saying.

494
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Daffodil Tyminski: But i'm just it's fine let's just move on.

495
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james murez: If we don't have the reports if there's nothing to.

496
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Daffodil Tyminski: Do it.

497
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Daffodil Tyminski: No twist K.

498
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Daffodil Tyminski: So we've emotion on the floor for items one through five be.

499
00:41:00.030 --> 00:41:01.500
Daffodil Tyminski: To put those on the agenda.

500
00:41:02.130 --> 00:41:05.820
james murez: yeah so Melissa could you take the the roll call vote, please.

501
00:41:06.900 --> 00:41:07.170
melissa diner: yeah.

502
00:41:07.860 --> 00:41:08.340
yeah yes.

503
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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

504
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Yes.

505
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Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

506
00:41:15.210 --> 00:41:15.750
Ali.

507
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melissa diner: Ali.

508
00:41:23.340 --> 00:41:24.030
Yes, i'm sorry.

509
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melissa diner: NICO.

510
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Nico Ruderman: Yes.

511
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Thanks.

512
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james murez: Okay.

513
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james murez: I assume that that meant the motion carried.

514
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melissa diner: Over we don't need to like make a separate motion for items six but just quick thing like Andrea you need to submit to me as soon as possible, the actual motions for your reports they have to come in as promotions, as we.

515
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melissa diner: discussed in addition.

516
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Andrea Boccaletti: be okay, I have a question about that because i've never done it once and i've been on three board members meetings as treasurer so.

517
00:42:08.670 --> 00:42:15.960
melissa diner: we've been doing it for you, but that's going to end for all committees us doing things for them and we're trying to transition.

518
00:42:16.290 --> 00:42:24.570
melissa diner: In being nice, but you know jim's also trying to like make sure everyone's accountable for what they have to do in a new way so.

519
00:42:25.380 --> 00:42:37.530
melissa diner: So this is something he always submitted every month, I can send you and you can look back at any previous board agenda copy and paste it exactly how it's been submitted with attachment moving forward, you say you know.

520
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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay.

521
00:42:41.190 --> 00:42:46.410
james murez: Thank you, Melissa and and the link that the URL that's here, this is to the correct.

522
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james murez: Expenditure report so.

523
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james murez: That was one that I went and looked up there's two hands raised do we have a motion first to approve six a&b 668 and.

524
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melissa diner: 16 we can just keep going through the agenda gym like numbers like.

525
00:43:04.860 --> 00:43:05.520
james murez: molto.

526
00:43:05.580 --> 00:43:06.510
melissa diner: Number you have to.

527
00:43:06.630 --> 00:43:08.790
james murez: We have raised hands i'm not sure if it's about.

528
00:43:09.750 --> 00:43:18.600
melissa diner: These items we have another emotion yet so we don't have to take any raise hands, if you just keep going through, and then we get a motion on the floor, since it's already.

529
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james murez: Okay, six and seven, eight and eight we can't really do at this point we don't know, I guess, we can okay so, six, seven and eight and nine, but we haven't filled in what nine is going to be yet so we'll figure that as as we move forward so can I get for 6789 please.

530
00:43:43.950 --> 00:43:45.210
Daffodil Tyminski: I will make a motion.

531
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james murez: Who said that.

532
00:43:48.030 --> 00:43:49.890
james murez: Who was that staff, no Okay, thank you.

533
00:43:50.910 --> 00:43:54.570
james murez: um and Andre made the second you got that Melissa.

534
00:43:55.380 --> 00:43:55.980
melissa diner: I got it.

535
00:43:56.160 --> 00:43:58.920
james murez: Okay now public comment on those four items.

536
00:43:59.340 --> 00:44:01.710
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, um Lisa redmond go ahead.

537
00:44:03.780 --> 00:44:08.820
Lisa Redmond: Yes, six, eight, at last, month's add calm meeting there was discussion about.

538
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:26.190
Lisa Redmond: The m E R and that it's an acronym and even Jim said hell yeah i'm a big fan of spelling something out first before we use an acronym and then it never made it to the board agenda to which many people during the board meeting said what's m er so perhaps we can spell it out.

539
00:44:26.640 --> 00:44:27.900
james murez: it's spelled out here.

540
00:44:29.310 --> 00:44:29.910
Lisa Redmond: um.

541
00:44:30.240 --> 00:44:30.660
Alley Bean: When I.

542
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james murez: were right here.

543
00:44:33.270 --> 00:44:34.890
Lisa Redmond: monthly expenditure will now.

544
00:44:34.890 --> 00:44:37.260
Lisa Redmond: yeah but the one i'm looking at it is not.

545
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james murez: Right, it would there were there were a number of corrections that were made minor details that were made in the copy that we're going to be looking at on screen to the one that was posted online.

546
00:44:48.240 --> 00:44:51.150
Lisa Redmond: But okay i'm gonna looking at the one on one all right that's all.

547
00:44:51.450 --> 00:44:51.990
james murez: Thank you.

548
00:44:52.560 --> 00:44:53.640
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah thanks for that.

549
00:44:54.810 --> 00:44:56.760
Daffodil Tyminski: Helen go ahead and unmute yourself.

550
00:44:59.730 --> 00:45:05.640
Helen Fallon: I just want to point out that, if this is going to be submitted by the treasure and this came up at the budget.

551
00:45:06.690 --> 00:45:16.080
Helen Fallon: there's no reason at all for these reports to be two months behind they're not the monthly expenditure reports prepare by the city is not.

552
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Helen Fallon: negotiable it's just the facts is just what you've spent it's just what's been uploaded and that's it doesn't require approval and a foundry is going to be doing it, you can just submit it just as you know, this is just as on here, and he submitted before the final the final agendas.

553
00:45:34.560 --> 00:45:49.230
Helen Fallon: The agenda is finalized there's nothing you need to look at or discuss about it, and then you can be caught up and you're always current I just don't understand why you want to remain two months behind it makes no sense whatsoever so.

554
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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you i'm.

555
00:45:53.010 --> 00:45:55.860
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'm bored comment either.

556
00:45:56.370 --> 00:45:58.500
james murez: way, we have to close public comment.

557
00:45:59.190 --> 00:46:00.630
Daffodil Tyminski: We have closed public comment.

558
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:01.260
james murez: Thank you.

559
00:46:06.060 --> 00:46:06.390
Ivan: Okay.

560
00:46:08.250 --> 00:46:09.150
Ivan: All right, so.

561
00:46:10.290 --> 00:46:14.970
Ivan: If I remember, right from the budget meeting we never approved the murder, because we didn't have it.

562
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:19.980
Ivan: So i'm not sure what murder says.

563
00:46:20.790 --> 00:46:21.900
Andrea Boccaletti: I did we did have it.

564
00:46:21.990 --> 00:46:24.690
james murez: We have the July we have that report, this is the.

565
00:46:24.690 --> 00:46:25.410
Ivan: July one.

566
00:46:27.150 --> 00:46:28.290
james murez: I can bring it up.

567
00:46:28.290 --> 00:46:31.800
Ivan: The latest one remember, we had to push it to the next month.

568
00:46:33.150 --> 00:46:34.710
Andrea Boccaletti: know we have proved the August summer.

569
00:46:36.150 --> 00:46:36.690
Ivan: Okay.

570
00:46:36.780 --> 00:46:38.940
james murez: The Minister in there, so far.

571
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:43.140
Ivan: Alright, so this is why I don't have it in front of me and the version I got.

572
00:46:44.190 --> 00:46:46.170
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, we gotta go live, and I think.

573
00:46:46.260 --> 00:46:47.430
Ivan: Okay The other thing.

574
00:46:48.780 --> 00:46:52.260
Ivan: of web corners what this never came to the Budget Committee.

575
00:46:53.130 --> 00:46:57.450
james murez: So yeah I did go back and re listen to the recording.

576
00:47:01.590 --> 00:47:04.920
Ivan: Well alright I missed one meeting is that this is.

577
00:47:06.090 --> 00:47:07.680
james murez: Not only the meeting you missed it.

578
00:47:08.370 --> 00:47:09.960
Ivan: Okay, all right i'm sorry.

579
00:47:11.820 --> 00:47:13.050
Ivan: paperwork available.

580
00:47:13.530 --> 00:47:14.430
james murez: I don't see or.

581
00:47:14.490 --> 00:47:16.230
james murez: hear this is the report.

582
00:47:16.530 --> 00:47:19.530
Ivan: don't mark the other one the Web corner.

583
00:47:20.010 --> 00:47:23.910
Andrea Boccaletti: Right, the city hasn't send me any paperwork yet i'm getting ahead of the curve with them.

584
00:47:24.420 --> 00:47:25.470
Andrea Boccaletti: it's something that.

585
00:47:25.470 --> 00:47:27.270
Andrea Boccaletti: The city, the.

586
00:47:29.040 --> 00:47:35.070
Andrea Boccaletti: city clerk told me is going to be required so i'm getting ahead of it and getting them to approve it already.

587
00:47:35.820 --> 00:47:37.380
james murez: And that's what this says, right here.

588
00:47:37.830 --> 00:47:42.240
Ivan: But you're asking the board to approve something that the Budget Committee has seen yet.

589
00:47:44.370 --> 00:47:44.610
Ivan: ready.

590
00:47:44.850 --> 00:47:48.150
Andrea Boccaletti: And I brought it up at the Budget Committee on Friday i'm sorry on.

591
00:47:49.470 --> 00:47:51.210
Andrea Boccaletti: When do we have the budget come on.

592
00:47:52.860 --> 00:47:54.180
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, so Monday.

593
00:47:55.470 --> 00:47:55.830
Okay.

594
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james murez: So it says upon upon.

595
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james murez: approved approve.

596
00:48:03.330 --> 00:48:04.050
james murez: The approval of.

597
00:48:04.140 --> 00:48:10.590
james murez: The Board, then the city's gonna send us the service agreement, the city sending us the service agreement not web portal.

598
00:48:12.090 --> 00:48:12.360
Daffodil Tyminski: Right.

599
00:48:15.450 --> 00:48:16.770
melissa diner: I have the same question.

600
00:48:16.770 --> 00:48:17.220
melissa diner: Over and.

601
00:48:17.820 --> 00:48:22.560
melissa diner: Like I think this will come up again so just correct me and or clarify.

602
00:48:23.040 --> 00:48:37.410
melissa diner: It says we're approving a scope of services, approved by the nc board so have we previously approved the scope of services is there an addendum of scope of services we've approved that we can attach or like what because it's not clear to me either.

603
00:48:38.370 --> 00:48:47.580
james murez: I was clear to me is the services that we've currently been receiving is what it is we're approving we're not increasing the services and we're not.

604
00:48:47.850 --> 00:48:49.020
Daffodil Tyminski: Using the services.

605
00:48:49.500 --> 00:48:49.920
melissa diner: Okay.

606
00:48:50.130 --> 00:48:54.120
melissa diner: So if there's anything Andrea has that shows what those regular services.

607
00:48:54.120 --> 00:48:58.290
melissa diner: are probably prevented a lot of back and forth if we just attach that.

608
00:48:59.790 --> 00:49:15.780
Andrea Boccaletti: yeah I mean I don't have anything I don't have what those services are i'm not the one who who got those services for the board that's something that's just been continuing because i'm coming in, after I don't know how long is left corner been doing our website.

609
00:49:16.080 --> 00:49:16.650
james murez: Good question.

610
00:49:17.100 --> 00:49:19.080
Andrea Boccaletti: One year two years, three years, I have no idea.

611
00:49:19.740 --> 00:49:24.840
james murez: that's something that we'd guess, we would have to go back and ask you if he had a copy of the original contract.

612
00:49:25.980 --> 00:49:27.750
james murez: If that's the question you're asking.

613
00:49:28.650 --> 00:49:34.020
melissa diner: yeah we're just I mean we can't show what we pay them every month I don't know.

614
00:49:34.080 --> 00:49:35.250
james murez: it's just that, when you're.

615
00:49:35.340 --> 00:49:36.690
james murez: That would be on the moon report.

616
00:49:37.950 --> 00:49:47.580
melissa diner: Right, as long as you outline that so we just don't say we don't know and, we hope, Andrea walk them through that I think that would clarify these questions to anyone that asks.

617
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:52.500
james murez: Okay, I think I still have the Marine corps here and we want to look at it now.

618
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:56.280
Ivan: Communications officer didn't you have a copy of this.

619
00:49:56.700 --> 00:49:59.040
james murez: No, I never had a copy of the service agreement.

620
00:50:00.420 --> 00:50:00.750
Daffodil Tyminski: My.

621
00:50:02.430 --> 00:50:05.790
james murez: city made it, I have no idea when it was created.

622
00:50:06.600 --> 00:50:18.990
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah my impression from the interaction with the city was that this was just sort of foist on us ages ago and the city didn't have their paperwork in line so that's why they want a new approval.

623
00:50:19.740 --> 00:50:27.570
Daffodil Tyminski: Well, so I it, you know I don't I haven't researched all the history of the paperwork, but it seemed to me that was what was driving this whole thing to begin with.

624
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:40.830
james murez: But i've been my understanding is is there are a very few select companies that the city has approved to do neighborhood Council websites.

625
00:50:41.640 --> 00:50:54.060
james murez: And those companies all have agreements with the city and you get to select between company a versus company B and we got company C or D I don't know.

626
00:50:54.600 --> 00:51:02.610
james murez: And and it's just been that way forever, but we can ask you where there might be a copy of that contract, Melissa you don't recall ever seeing a copy of the contract.

627
00:51:03.390 --> 00:51:16.740
melissa diner: Well, I don't know I mean you always just submitted everything within attachment so like let's just ask him about that it's a simple thing and drag can sync with him about so it's out there to the public and let's move on.

628
00:51:16.890 --> 00:51:20.520
james murez: Show yeah let's let's go ahead and vote on this, I think that this is.

629
00:51:21.210 --> 00:51:23.760
Ivan: Another suggestion is from one check with them and.

630
00:51:25.710 --> 00:51:26.820
Ivan: He was around when we.

631
00:51:27.600 --> 00:51:38.070
james murez: look and see what we have in the records and if we can't find anything in the records, we can go and ask the people that exist, we can even ask them corner, what kind of send us a copy of our agreement i'm sure they have one.

632
00:51:38.520 --> 00:51:46.950
james murez: And i'm sure they will be more than happy to send it, especially since we're telling them we're getting ready to renew it so we can do that for the board meeting let's move on with this stuff.

633
00:51:47.430 --> 00:51:48.210
Andrea Boccaletti: I have my hand up.

634
00:51:50.100 --> 00:51:54.360
Andrea Boccaletti: Go ahead okay um I like Helens comment.

635
00:51:56.130 --> 00:52:08.760
Andrea Boccaletti: The stakeholders comment about getting caught up since the September Mer was available just minutes, I mean minutes before the.

636
00:52:09.330 --> 00:52:24.720
Andrea Boccaletti: Budget and Finance Committee meeting why don't we instead of having to approve, since that is something that we're going to go over that i'm going to go over in my budget and Finance Committee report a 10 minutes every single board meeting let's just get caught up.

637
00:52:25.740 --> 00:52:34.080
Andrea Boccaletti: Let me, let me present August and September at this next meeting, and we won't be two months behind anymore, it makes sense, makes perfect sense.

638
00:52:36.390 --> 00:52:52.470
Ivan: we're always going to be two months behind because they don't release to summer before the Budget Committee meets so we're always going to be one an extra months behind unless you want to change the date for the Budget Committee meeting.

639
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:53.700
Ivan: With my.

640
00:52:54.840 --> 00:53:01.890
james murez: guys and guys time out let's let's take this offline we'll talk about this at the next budget and Finance Committee meeting.

641
00:53:01.890 --> 00:53:05.580
james murez: Okay we're not we're not going to change anything tonight because we didn't.

642
00:53:05.580 --> 00:53:07.140
james murez: do anything ahead of this meeting.

643
00:53:09.270 --> 00:53:23.190
james murez: Will will do it when the time comes, but what we can say open the discussion, I think the problem is going to be that we do need to review the the the report prior to putting it on the boards agenda but we'll figure out how to do that.

644
00:53:23.700 --> 00:53:25.260
melissa diner: got me to take a roll call Jim.

645
00:53:25.500 --> 00:53:27.690
melissa diner: Please jam it oh.

646
00:53:28.860 --> 00:53:29.460
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

647
00:53:30.030 --> 00:53:31.170
james murez: Jim yes.

648
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:34.170
melissa diner: I vote yes Andrea.

649
00:53:34.830 --> 00:53:36.690
melissa diner: Yes, Ali.

650
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:38.370
melissa diner: Yes, NICO.

651
00:53:41.820 --> 00:53:42.120
melissa diner: NICO.

652
00:53:43.620 --> 00:53:44.520
Daffodil Tyminski: We oh.

653
00:53:44.580 --> 00:53:45.540
Nico Ruderman: Sorry, yes.

654
00:53:46.140 --> 00:53:46.590
melissa diner: Thank you.

655
00:53:49.260 --> 00:53:50.460
melissa diner: anonymous moving on.

656
00:53:52.770 --> 00:53:53.970
james murez: Okay um.

657
00:53:56.880 --> 00:54:01.320
james murez: So we're now on to item 10 110 a.

658
00:54:04.110 --> 00:54:05.100
james murez: The.

659
00:54:05.850 --> 00:54:10.380
melissa diner: way Jim Jim, can I just say one thing, the way we usually do this is we'll make like.

660
00:54:10.410 --> 00:54:14.910
melissa diner: One motion for all of these at the end is like you can do it, however, you want, but like.

661
00:54:15.240 --> 00:54:28.560
melissa diner: You can also just do it as like we put all the ones that are unanimous on, and then the others stay on the board agenda if you want to like do it efficiently or please do it another way, to but that's just something I want to mention.

662
00:54:29.670 --> 00:54:33.840
james murez: Well, I think we want to keep them all Okay, we can do that 10 a B.

663
00:54:34.860 --> 00:54:35.670
james murez: C.

664
00:54:37.080 --> 00:54:40.140
james murez: D, the problem is, we have a couple of no we can't do that.

665
00:54:41.610 --> 00:54:43.050
james murez: We have a couple of issues.

666
00:54:45.570 --> 00:54:51.390
james murez: So A and B were correctly submitted, but are missing information.

667
00:54:53.790 --> 00:54:57.060
james murez: they're both missing distributions who's going to be getting these letters.

668
00:54:59.040 --> 00:54:59.670
james murez: um.

669
00:55:01.530 --> 00:55:05.190
james murez: So we can do A and B first and and.

670
00:55:06.600 --> 00:55:08.130
melissa diner: cool i'll make that motion.

671
00:55:08.310 --> 00:55:10.320
Alley Bean: Okay um can I can I.

672
00:55:11.370 --> 00:55:12.330
Alley Bean: Can I just make a.

673
00:55:13.110 --> 00:55:13.590
Alley Bean: Right, we have.

674
00:55:13.650 --> 00:55:16.650
james murez: We have to get, we have to get emotion first public comment.

675
00:55:19.290 --> 00:55:23.820
Daffodil Tyminski: So the motion in place items 10 eight and 10 be on the agenda i'll make that motion.

676
00:55:23.910 --> 00:55:25.380
Alley Bean: Correct i'll second.

677
00:55:27.990 --> 00:55:29.070
james murez: Did you get that Melissa.

678
00:55:29.550 --> 00:55:30.900
melissa diner: I got it okay.

679
00:55:30.930 --> 00:55:31.860
james murez: there's two hands up.

680
00:55:34.230 --> 00:55:35.430
Daffodil Tyminski: Three actually hold on.

681
00:55:36.090 --> 00:55:38.520
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um go ahead Lisa.

682
00:55:39.900 --> 00:55:44.580
Lisa Redmond: Oh, I was just going to point out the 10 be is six Oh, and that could go on.

683
00:55:44.610 --> 00:55:45.330
Lisa Redmond: To sense.

684
00:55:47.070 --> 00:55:50.250
Daffodil Tyminski: You know, thank you um.

685
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:52.170
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead home.

686
00:55:54.090 --> 00:56:03.180
Helen Fallon: Just wanted, I just wanted to point out that I believe on tell you how the distribution of the city staff emails here is that who gets this and the applicant.

687
00:56:04.860 --> 00:56:09.840
Helen Fallon: I don't know whatever distribution, you have usually just the planning department.

688
00:56:12.930 --> 00:56:15.030
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you um.

689
00:56:16.350 --> 00:56:18.630
Daffodil Tyminski: And then alley you have your hand up.

690
00:56:19.230 --> 00:56:27.060
Alley Bean: yeah I just had a question i'm glad that you change the format to make the case description, with a colon like that, because I have found the original thing online.

691
00:56:27.510 --> 00:56:32.460
Alley Bean: kind of confusing, but for people that haven't been to the loop peck meeting would it be weird.

692
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:45.240
Alley Bean: To put in parentheses after the three files here, and the new files on 10 being all these what are in those files, so that people that are doing research can like, for example, I was wondering if there was Community outreach.

693
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:49.560
Alley Bean: It can we just say what those three files are like is one just the architectural.

694
00:56:49.560 --> 00:56:50.400
Lisa Redmond: plans is.

695
00:56:50.700 --> 00:56:51.000
You know.

696
00:56:53.490 --> 00:56:53.760
Alley Bean: For.

697
00:56:53.820 --> 00:56:57.720
Daffodil Tyminski: people that are that would be very helpful if if.

698
00:56:59.040 --> 00:57:02.250
james murez: That request was already made a balloon pack chair.

699
00:57:02.580 --> 00:57:05.160
james murez: This This is how the material was submitted.

700
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:07.980
Alley Bean: Okay, if that's possible, that would be really a.

701
00:57:07.980 --> 00:57:13.890
james murez: matter of fact, the material was submitted way you saw it online not formatted like this, and this is.

702
00:57:14.130 --> 00:57:14.790
Daffodil Tyminski: My mad at it.

703
00:57:15.690 --> 00:57:18.450
james murez: I went through and reformat it so be easier to see tonight.

704
00:57:18.870 --> 00:57:20.940
james murez: Great Keep it up here address should still be.

705
00:57:22.410 --> 00:57:26.250
james murez: Here, this should here, I have to turn off revision tracking hold on one second.

706
00:57:26.700 --> 00:57:30.720
Daffodil Tyminski: And by the way, i'm just noting the public comments close we've moved on to avoid comment, thank you.

707
00:57:31.470 --> 00:57:35.310
james murez: um this this still needed to be more formatted correctly.

708
00:57:37.410 --> 00:57:43.260
james murez: Now now it's more correct i'm in the misspellings i'm not going to deal with.

709
00:57:43.830 --> 00:57:45.120
james murez: It yeah so.

710
00:57:45.240 --> 00:57:54.090
james murez: The request was made and and we have to you know see if it if the land use chair wants to do that we're working on an automation solution.

711
00:57:54.360 --> 00:58:05.550
james murez: it's going to take care of formatting these things automatically, and it will always have the title each document there, but at this point we don't have that so it's a little bit of extra work, and you know getting people to do extra work because.

712
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:07.650
james murez: Not sometimes the easiest thing to do.

713
00:58:08.820 --> 00:58:11.010
melissa diner: Can I mean, can I comment on that.

714
00:58:12.420 --> 00:58:12.930
james murez: Second.

715
00:58:13.200 --> 00:58:14.520
james murez: Let me just finish my comment.

716
00:58:14.730 --> 00:58:19.110
james murez: The city staff on this is IRA brown Jason Douglas works for the city.

717
00:58:20.640 --> 00:58:21.360
james murez: For the.

718
00:58:22.980 --> 00:58:36.870
james murez: For the councilman yeah not staff on this project, so this is actually incorrect and it sort of makes me wonder whether or not there's a distribution list because his name should be on the distribution list it shouldn't be referencing the city.

719
00:58:37.380 --> 00:58:51.090
james murez: zoning administrator it's a completely different function and so that's why I put on here missing distribution because typically when we send these things out a copy goes to.

720
00:58:52.770 --> 00:59:10.560
james murez: The head of the planning department, the zoning administrator that's on this particular case, it also goes to the councilman and the councilman his deputy, is always followed the councilman deputy doesn't come before the councilman himself and that's just a matter of respect.

721
00:59:11.670 --> 00:59:25.980
james murez: And, and that wasn't done here, and I don't know why, on some of the earlier previous board board agendas, it was done correctly here, it was so I don't know why and that's why I put the comment there okay go ahead, most i'm sorry.

722
00:59:27.780 --> 00:59:33.990
melissa diner: So just a couple of things it's my understanding that now all the committee chairs are sending.

723
00:59:35.700 --> 00:59:48.540
melissa diner: All of the letters out So are we just scanning who they're sending them to for approval before they send them or what because if they're sending it out, then it's the distribution list sort of becomes.

724
00:59:49.230 --> 00:59:59.130
melissa diner: not our problem at the board level as long as they're getting it to whoever they want to see and touch it and they could change that after you approve that or anytime so like at this point.

725
00:59:59.580 --> 01:00:10.680
melissa diner: Maybe it's not something we need a concern ourselves with and then also do we want to just also do 10 be to consent, because typically in the past broadcom we would just do that.

726
01:00:12.420 --> 01:00:16.560
james murez: yeah I agree, I agree with 10 be to consent.

727
01:00:17.640 --> 01:00:20.850
james murez: We should probably take these as separate motions now.

728
01:00:22.500 --> 01:00:28.560
melissa diner: So let's go easily get back on facts and on combo you can do whatever you want, if we want to do here.

729
01:00:29.310 --> 01:00:31.320
james murez: No, no 1010 a we just.

730
01:00:31.470 --> 01:00:38.880
james murez: 10 a weird we're putting on the boards agenda, we already took public comment on 10 and 10 be and then let's just take a separate vote.

731
01:00:40.170 --> 01:00:45.480
james murez: For these two items so that way there's no confusion about everybody understanding the 10 B is going to consent.

732
01:00:46.110 --> 01:00:48.000
Alley Bean: Can I see the new 10 be just because I.

733
01:00:48.060 --> 01:00:49.680
james murez: haven't seen you that's not new.

734
01:00:49.710 --> 01:00:51.690
Alley Bean: Here, let me I just mean the reform any of it.

735
01:00:52.050 --> 01:00:56.460
james murez: Let me, let me fix this so it's a little bit easier to see I didn't get all of this done.

736
01:01:00.240 --> 01:01:03.180
Alley Bean: A representative Jesse feldman is from the city.

737
01:01:05.250 --> 01:01:07.110
james murez: No, that is now applicant.

738
01:01:07.770 --> 01:01:09.720
Alley Bean: I see applicant that's a little bit unclear.

739
01:01:09.780 --> 01:01:10.560
james murez: yeah yeah.

740
01:01:12.330 --> 01:01:13.110
Alley Bean: No, no okay cool.

741
01:01:13.380 --> 01:01:16.710
james murez: yeah I think that's probably about it.

742
01:01:17.160 --> 01:01:26.370
Alley Bean: And I like, by the way, Jim keeping Jason Douglas so we see who from the Council is the staff like on both of these you.

743
01:01:27.090 --> 01:01:28.680
james murez: he's not staff and 70.

744
01:01:29.640 --> 01:01:29.820
Alley Bean: Oh.

745
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:30.900
james murez: he's not staff.

746
01:01:31.230 --> 01:01:33.780
james murez: Our ending sending this to him.

747
01:01:34.050 --> 01:01:36.810
james murez: will do absolutely nothing for the applicant.

748
01:01:37.170 --> 01:01:39.990
Alley Bean: Okay, I didn't know I thought, maybe Jason Douglas was on this from.

749
01:01:40.020 --> 01:01:41.490
Alley Bean: The Council OK.

750
01:01:41.700 --> 01:01:44.670
james murez: So, again here, I also put missing distribution.

751
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.160
james murez: It doesn't say it doesn't say who it is.

752
01:01:47.640 --> 01:01:52.500
james murez: OK, that one of these files may say who it is because there was a master land use application.

753
01:01:52.770 --> 01:01:57.420
james murez: That was supposed to be submitted, so there should always be three documents for every land use project.

754
01:01:57.660 --> 01:02:02.070
james murez: In here, we only have two so i'm not sure which one is missing, there should always be an application.

755
01:02:02.310 --> 01:02:12.600
james murez: There should always be a set of prints and there should always be a staff report and the staff report should address the outreach meeting and what the Community said and what happened in the loop PAC meeting.

756
01:02:12.660 --> 01:02:13.980
Alley Bean: that's what I would like to know.

757
01:02:14.370 --> 01:02:14.640
Alley Bean: Where.

758
01:02:14.910 --> 01:02:25.410
james murez: And what we find always should always be three documents and on this particular case, we only have two so again missing distribution I would actually say we're also missing a file.

759
01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:28.380
james murez: i'm me turn revision.

760
01:02:28.620 --> 01:02:36.450
Alley Bean: Especially with a bar with alcohol, I think the outreach is really important for someone on the board to know how that went you know it means that.

761
01:02:37.050 --> 01:02:37.860
Alley Bean: I don't know where that.

762
01:02:38.100 --> 01:02:44.850
Alley Bean: place on Main Street is but that's something i'd like to know, for example, could be able to vote, you know yep yep.

763
01:02:45.570 --> 01:02:47.760
Daffodil Tyminski: it's across from the old chaya point.

764
01:02:48.240 --> 01:02:49.680
Alley Bean: Okay cool so it's commercial.

765
01:02:50.370 --> 01:02:51.870
Daffodil Tyminski: um okay so.

766
01:02:52.620 --> 01:02:57.480
james murez: it's the new place next to mishcon to a few of the old synagogue there, right at the end of maybe street.

767
01:02:57.900 --> 01:02:58.920
Alley Bean: Is that in Venice.

768
01:02:59.340 --> 01:03:00.060
james murez: yeah try to.

769
01:03:00.090 --> 01:03:00.720
james murez: catch it.

770
01:03:02.040 --> 01:03:03.630
Alley Bean: Okay cool Thank you.

771
01:03:03.690 --> 01:03:05.550
james murez: it's the last property in ben's.

772
01:03:08.490 --> 01:03:09.900
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so we have.

773
01:03:11.190 --> 01:03:15.210
Daffodil Tyminski: emotion on the floor I guess we've amended the motion now do we have a second on the amendment.

774
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:16.530
Alley Bean: On a second it.

775
01:03:16.560 --> 01:03:35.370
melissa diner: Yet we have a second and the first and third, and a fourth on consent in lieu pack, can we take it to votes I guess is Jim wanted to do it, one to put 10 beyond loop back and one to put ours one to put 10 a on lubick and another put 10 beyond consent, can I take a roll call vote on.

776
01:03:35.370 --> 01:03:36.960
james murez: Those yes please do that.

777
01:03:38.190 --> 01:03:38.850
melissa diner: sham.

778
01:03:39.180 --> 01:03:39.660
Yes.

779
01:03:41.130 --> 01:03:41.940
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

780
01:03:42.030 --> 01:03:43.590
Alley Bean: I leaving yes.

781
01:03:43.980 --> 01:03:45.270
melissa diner: Andrea boca lady.

782
01:03:45.720 --> 01:03:47.190
melissa diner: Yes, NICO.

783
01:03:49.500 --> 01:03:54.390
melissa diner: Yes, I bought I vote yes unanimous now for 10 be to consent jam.

784
01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:56.700
melissa diner: Yes, that's it oh.

785
01:03:57.330 --> 01:03:59.010
melissa diner: Yes, Ali been.

786
01:03:59.190 --> 01:04:01.230
melissa diner: Yes, vocal melody.

787
01:04:01.590 --> 01:04:03.480
melissa diner: Yes, NICO Roman.

788
01:04:04.470 --> 01:04:08.160
melissa diner: Yes, and I vote yes, thank you, moving on to Tennessee.

789
01:04:09.420 --> 01:04:17.130
Daffodil Tyminski: The only thing I will say, is, I know we're trying not to fix stuff, but this was submitted with a ton of typos so we might just want to clean it up.

790
01:04:18.990 --> 01:04:19.530
Daffodil Tyminski: um.

791
01:04:20.310 --> 01:04:27.870
james murez: Okay 10 see is a bit more complicated, this was a motion that was.

792
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:36.960
james murez: put on loop X agenda and due to not getting.

793
01:04:38.970 --> 01:04:39.840
james murez: A second.

794
01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:57.810
james murez: To the motion which actually didn't even get a first, because the original first motion was made by leaks and then she found out she's not allowed to make motions, so there was really no motion made and no second by the board, so the question is, does the board want to now hear this directly.

795
01:05:00.240 --> 01:05:06.060
james murez: And, and so we would need a motion to put this on the loop pack agenda.

796
01:05:06.750 --> 01:05:08.130
james murez: Like so we just wonder new.

797
01:05:08.250 --> 01:05:10.890
james murez: New business, maybe not loop back agenda just under new.

798
01:05:11.700 --> 01:05:13.800
Ivan: would go to the board agenda directly.

799
01:05:14.130 --> 01:05:17.520
james murez: Right so it's going to the board agenda directly under new business.

800
01:05:18.030 --> 01:05:25.050
melissa diner: It point of information, I just want to clarify committee chairs in general cannot make motions or.

801
01:05:25.140 --> 01:05:31.830
james murez: leaks, especially here, the chair of a committee is not allowed to make or second motion.

802
01:05:33.090 --> 01:05:34.260
melissa diner: But the President is.

803
01:05:35.970 --> 01:05:36.690
james murez: Excuse me.

804
01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:37.980
melissa diner: The President.

805
01:05:38.040 --> 01:05:40.230
melissa diner: is allowed to go second motion.

806
01:05:40.260 --> 01:05:47.010
james murez: No, not if i'm chair, so if I hand the gavel to daffodil, then I can make or second to motion.

807
01:05:47.610 --> 01:05:48.510
james murez: Okay well.

808
01:05:48.540 --> 01:05:58.710
james murez: Well i'm well i'm the chair of the committee, while i'm while i'm holding the gavel whoever it is it's holding the gavel over the body they're not allowed to make or second motions.

809
01:05:59.550 --> 01:06:00.570
melissa diner: it's enough, thank you.

810
01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:01.350
Okay.

811
01:06:03.150 --> 01:06:05.130
james murez: yeah we're all learning I just found that out to.

812
01:06:06.720 --> 01:06:08.760
Ivan: The rural the street people on the committee.

813
01:06:09.270 --> 01:06:09.750
Okay.

814
01:06:10.860 --> 01:06:12.000
james murez: exception we don't have.

815
01:06:13.650 --> 01:06:17.910
james murez: Thank you, thank you i'm here it's always good to hear from the peanut gallery.

816
01:06:18.510 --> 01:06:19.380
Ivan: All right.

817
01:06:19.710 --> 01:06:22.290
james murez: So we're putting this on to the.

818
01:06:23.730 --> 01:06:27.960
james murez: We need a motion to put this on to the Boards agenda under new business.

819
01:06:28.050 --> 01:06:30.240
Alley Bean: i'll make a motion that motion.

820
01:06:30.990 --> 01:06:32.010
james murez: Thank you, those alley.

821
01:06:33.900 --> 01:06:34.680
james murez: We hear a second.

822
01:06:38.070 --> 01:06:39.300
Andrea Boccaletti: And today, I was second to.

823
01:06:40.140 --> 01:06:45.750
james murez: Thank you, Andrea now let's open this for public comment I see there's a raised hand.

824
01:06:46.740 --> 01:06:48.060
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, Helen go ahead.

825
01:06:48.510 --> 01:07:00.630
Helen Fallon: yeah i'd like to recommend very strongly, based on my observations of loop pack, but you don't send rack motions to them, they either refused to hear them or take them off the agenda.

826
01:07:01.050 --> 01:07:10.830
Helen Fallon: and save everybody a lot of time and brief by just putting them before the board letting the board decide, because they don't want to hear them they don't believe in them and they just.

827
01:07:11.790 --> 01:07:22.290
Helen Fallon: figure out ways to get around and it's kind of embarrassing, frankly, is when you're a member of the public watching the maneuvers, so I think you should consider a standing rule.

828
01:07:22.290 --> 01:07:25.350
Helen Fallon: That was all looping rack motions in front of the Board you're welcome.

829
01:07:27.030 --> 01:07:27.900
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Helen.

830
01:07:28.860 --> 01:07:29.280
james murez: Any other.

831
01:07:29.610 --> 01:07:31.950
Daffodil Tyminski: Know hey Erica Yes, some.

832
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:32.580
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

833
01:07:33.750 --> 01:07:35.850
Daffodil Tyminski: And then we're closing public comments there's no more hands.

834
01:07:36.720 --> 01:07:39.300
Erica Moore: I agree with Helen it's it's.

835
01:07:40.710 --> 01:07:43.110
Erica Moore: it's just a little bit frustrating because.

836
01:07:44.220 --> 01:07:50.340
Erica Moore: Their refusal to even entertain really disturbing and I think that it does make sense that.

837
01:07:52.620 --> 01:08:05.940
Erica Moore: they're going to come to the board anyway so just make sense, this pipeline it straight in and that way you don't have to waste your time and blue bag, because he needs to get really, really long, so I think that Helen has a good point.

838
01:08:08.520 --> 01:08:09.450
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Erica.

839
01:08:12.060 --> 01:08:16.260
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, any board comment anyone have anything to say on this.

840
01:08:22.020 --> 01:08:24.450
Daffodil Tyminski: i'll say that well.

841
01:08:25.260 --> 01:08:29.640
james murez: we're not talking about what we're not talking about the motion itself we're just talking about putting it onto the board.

842
01:08:30.810 --> 01:08:30.960
james murez: you're.

843
01:08:30.990 --> 01:08:31.410
Right.

844
01:08:34.260 --> 01:08:42.660
Daffodil Tyminski: I mean it's it's it's a bit of a dangerous line, I think, to um you know we either respect the committee's or we don't write.

845
01:08:43.410 --> 01:09:02.280
Daffodil Tyminski: And we've always had the rule that if something doesn't get a second it dies, so you know we either have to decide, are we going to respect their lanes as a board or not, and I think we should, I think if the committee doesn't want to have it passed on it shouldn't be passed on.

846
01:09:08.400 --> 01:09:12.660
Daffodil Tyminski: Any other board comment raise your hand otherwise.

847
01:09:14.190 --> 01:09:15.000
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead Ali.

848
01:09:15.240 --> 01:09:29.640
Alley Bean: And I don't really know if I have enough expertise to talk about this, but I, it seems to me that if it's emotion that, for some reason lubec doesn't want to hear but it's a rack motion, I think it should be able to come to the board.

849
01:09:31.290 --> 01:09:39.600
Alley Bean: that's my personal but I, you know I don't understand all the details of law and stuff like that which I am trying to learn as I go along, but seems to me that.

850
01:09:40.830 --> 01:09:47.220
Alley Bean: they're just because they don't want to hear it doesn't mean that you know it's a rack most shouldn't I think we should hear it that's just my gut feeling.

851
01:09:49.320 --> 01:09:51.420
Daffodil Tyminski: um Thank you Andrea go ahead.

852
01:09:52.410 --> 01:09:53.910
Andrea Boccaletti: ECHO, the same sentiment.

853
01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:57.840
Andrea Boccaletti: That they just talked about.

854
01:09:58.890 --> 01:10:00.420
james murez: That or, if I can raise my hand.

855
01:10:01.470 --> 01:10:04.560
Daffodil Tyminski: With that well you just you effectively did so go ahead.

856
01:10:04.710 --> 01:10:17.280
james murez: Now there now I can when i'm sharing screen that that I don't have that option um so I participated in the the the loop pack meeting where this item was brought up.

857
01:10:18.420 --> 01:10:22.380
james murez: And there were some good points that were made about Lou Pack.

858
01:10:25.080 --> 01:10:34.410
james murez: feeling as though and and I I kind of completely understand what they're saying that when a rack motion comes to them it's almost as though.

859
01:10:35.100 --> 01:10:52.650
james murez: it's already it's like any other planning case there's an outsider that's coming in proposing this is what what is, we want to do, and the way that it's been handled in lieu pack up until now, and this could very easily change in the near future.

860
01:10:53.670 --> 01:11:08.310
james murez: rack motions are just put on the agenda with and actually the first rack motion that ever had a link to the actual motion was this last loop back meeting and prior to that it was just rack made emotion.

861
01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:12.330
james murez: This is, do we want to take it on and there was no discussion.

862
01:11:13.380 --> 01:11:33.180
james murez: that one of the committee members, may I think, a very valid point when he said that if we treat this as though it's any other case and we assign somebody to understand the content of what the motion is and present that to the rest of the committee.

863
01:11:34.290 --> 01:11:46.230
james murez: Then we will be looking at it, as though we're taking an impartial stand and basing our understanding now on what we believe to be correct for our Community.

864
01:11:46.890 --> 01:12:01.230
james murez: And that made a lot of sense to me and we haven't done that in the past, and so I think going forward we may start seeing that, and so I don't want to be so short is to say that we don't want to necessarily hear this motion.

865
01:12:02.730 --> 01:12:12.090
james murez: Because I think that there is a lot of value to the rap group I mean if you have ever been to the Rack meetings you would realize that these are the.

866
01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:21.510
james murez: The true movers and shakers of West la, these are the people that are the most informed about what's happening throughout the entire city.

867
01:12:21.990 --> 01:12:35.310
james murez: And you know it would be like taking the cream of our crop, we have the people that are on our on our rack agenda or on our rack group, we have myself daffodil we have a leaks, we have.

868
01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:48.090
james murez: john reed who's a leaks backup we have vicki we have all of the people that that are the most informed about what's happening.

869
01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:53.670
james murez: In in transportation, we have Salima to is who's unbelievable knowledge.

870
01:12:53.940 --> 01:12:59.550
james murez: All of the people that have the most knowledge in our group about what's happening locally in our Community are participating this.

871
01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:11.550
james murez: And they're taking a position across 14 Councils, that all feel that there's an important issue here, that we should all become aware of, so I don't want to just brush it under the table, because one committee.

872
01:13:12.600 --> 01:13:17.280
james murez: didn't necessarily understand what was being presented to them and didn't have time to review it.

873
01:13:19.020 --> 01:13:28.800
Alley Bean: And I agree with you that I think we should be able, as a community to hear something that's really important, even if the loop staff doesn't think it's important.

874
01:13:29.370 --> 01:13:38.760
Alley Bean: So that we can open up for public discussion if it's something I tried to read it and understand it, but i'd love to hear somebody with more expertise than me.

875
01:13:40.170 --> 01:13:41.430
Alley Bean: describe you know, really.

876
01:13:42.480 --> 01:13:44.580
Alley Bean: present it like it's like you just said john.

877
01:13:44.970 --> 01:13:46.830
james murez: Right and that's why we have two people.

878
01:13:47.190 --> 01:13:48.570
Alley Bean: Like it's an issue to me.

879
01:13:48.750 --> 01:13:57.150
james murez: that's why we have two people that we send from our board to rack and those people are supposed to come back and inform us.

880
01:13:57.360 --> 01:14:10.890
james murez: In this case, the person came back put it on the agenda, put a link to the file and then said okay let's hear it, and there was no presentation about understanding what it was about there was no report there was no anything.

881
01:14:11.190 --> 01:14:18.480
james murez: And I think that's a problem, and you know it wasn't my original decision because I knew that ELISE was very.

882
01:14:18.810 --> 01:14:24.600
james murez: Under the pressure to have a lot of other things happening in her committee, but she also wanted to make sure she was the.

883
01:14:24.990 --> 01:14:34.230
james murez: rack member that was going to be making these reports that was going to be participating in it, and we have to see if she's going to be able to be the one that contributes that.

884
01:14:37.500 --> 01:14:39.270
james murez: We can ask her for it at the board meeting.

885
01:14:39.330 --> 01:14:40.740
james murez: Emily Valley.

886
01:14:44.100 --> 01:14:47.760
james murez: So let's take a vote on this, I think we've heard all we're going to hear on it.

887
01:14:49.890 --> 01:14:51.120
james murez: let's see one take a roll call vote.

888
01:14:52.260 --> 01:14:54.420
Alley Bean: Can you explain what we're voting how.

889
01:14:54.510 --> 01:14:54.840
james murez: What the.

890
01:14:54.900 --> 01:15:00.330
james murez: opportunity to put i'm just getting ready to share my screen again Okay, thank you to put.

891
01:15:02.370 --> 01:15:14.520
james murez: This item here this rack motion financial interest of developer, to put this motion onto the Boards agenda under new items under new business.

892
01:15:14.820 --> 01:15:15.510
Alley Bean: Okay, great.

893
01:15:19.470 --> 01:15:20.550
james murez: Melissa are you there.

894
01:15:26.970 --> 01:15:27.870
james murez: Is Melissa their.

895
01:15:29.970 --> 01:15:31.110
james murez: Capital is Melissa there.

896
01:15:32.310 --> 01:15:33.810
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm trying to say.

897
01:15:34.950 --> 01:15:35.880
Daffodil Tyminski: No she's not.

898
01:15:36.510 --> 01:15:37.500
Daffodil Tyminski: Like a boss or.

899
01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:38.850
james murez: issues in the audience.

900
01:15:39.660 --> 01:15:41.700
Daffodil Tyminski: um nope.

901
01:15:44.250 --> 01:15:46.350
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'll take the roll call.

902
01:15:46.620 --> 01:15:47.400
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay yeah.

903
01:15:47.970 --> 01:15:48.510
Yes.

904
01:15:50.010 --> 01:15:51.600
Daffodil Tyminski: Myself daffodil i'm voting no.

905
01:15:53.010 --> 01:15:53.550
Daffodil Tyminski: alley.

906
01:15:53.730 --> 01:15:55.650
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, Andrea.

907
01:15:56.520 --> 01:15:58.290
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, NICO.

908
01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:01.260
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

909
01:16:02.160 --> 01:16:07.530
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so five one with most absent emotion cares.

910
01:16:08.700 --> 01:16:09.510
Ivan: Okay, Jim.

911
01:16:09.810 --> 01:16:14.280
Ivan: Yes, all right, what we've done in the past with things like this.

912
01:16:16.230 --> 01:16:21.030
Ivan: Somebody should be invited to come down and make a presentation to the board.

913
01:16:22.950 --> 01:16:27.510
Ivan: About what's going on here, because you have no experts on it on the board.

914
01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:28.980
Ivan: To.

915
01:16:29.700 --> 01:16:30.930
james murez: Do you want to reach out to Jay.

916
01:16:32.070 --> 01:16:34.740
Ivan: I don't that's not my you know.

917
01:16:35.220 --> 01:16:36.510
james murez: Okay, well, I thought you were volunteering.

918
01:16:37.740 --> 01:16:38.700
Ivan: Your unwrap.

919
01:16:39.540 --> 01:16:42.060
Ivan: should reach out to them and have somebody come.

920
01:16:42.420 --> 01:16:45.060
james murez: yeah I will reach out to Jay and CP wants to do.

921
01:16:45.060 --> 01:16:53.820
james murez: Okay um does anybody recall, who made the motion on this one, and who seconded only because I want to make sure that Melissa has this information.

922
01:16:55.080 --> 01:16:55.770
james murez: Actually we just.

923
01:16:56.130 --> 01:16:56.850
Daffodil Tyminski: I believe.

924
01:16:56.970 --> 01:16:58.950
Daffodil Tyminski: Ali made the motion Andrea second it.

925
01:16:59.550 --> 01:16:59.910
Yes.

926
01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:01.380
Okay.

927
01:17:03.900 --> 01:17:05.220
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, to a bs.

928
01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:07.290
james murez: And it was a yeah that's.

929
01:17:07.470 --> 01:17:09.180
Daffodil Tyminski: Right you're gonna have to distinguish your.

930
01:17:10.230 --> 01:17:11.100
Daffodil Tyminski: initials there.

931
01:17:12.390 --> 01:17:12.960
james murez: Good luck.

932
01:17:13.980 --> 01:17:18.030
james murez: And it was 510 it's five one year right Thank you.

933
01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:20.340
Daffodil Tyminski: um.

934
01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:22.110
Alley Bean: I can do.

935
01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:23.910
Daffodil Tyminski: It.

936
01:17:24.990 --> 01:17:25.860
james murez: yeah that's true.

937
01:17:29.280 --> 01:17:30.420
Daffodil Tyminski: Hollywood you say i'm sorry.

938
01:17:30.630 --> 01:17:32.280
Alley Bean: can be am be.

939
01:17:33.090 --> 01:17:34.050
Daffodil Tyminski: Am be okay.

940
01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:37.980
Andrea Boccaletti: Maybe i'll be makes more sense right, because I know it's only be.

941
01:17:39.210 --> 01:17:41.940
Alley Bean: amb that's I alley mills being so that's my my.

942
01:17:42.360 --> 01:17:42.780
Alley Bean: Legal name.

943
01:17:46.770 --> 01:17:48.390
james murez: Melissa has her hand up I just thought.

944
01:17:51.330 --> 01:17:52.560
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'll let her in.

945
01:17:52.980 --> 01:17:55.740
james murez: You want to okay yeah I don't see.

946
01:17:58.410 --> 01:17:59.760
james murez: Okay um.

947
01:18:01.650 --> 01:18:02.460
james murez: next one.

948
01:18:03.810 --> 01:18:09.060
james murez: So this 110 D um.

949
01:18:11.190 --> 01:18:15.780
james murez: I received an email half an hour before the meeting that.

950
01:18:17.460 --> 01:18:18.540
james murez: The motion.

951
01:18:19.980 --> 01:18:24.780
james murez: Was I have to go and pull up the motion because I didn't paste it into your hold on a second folks.

952
01:18:26.460 --> 01:18:31.380
james murez: question is, do we want to hear it, it was a placeholder it was sent in.

953
01:18:37.980 --> 01:18:41.760
james murez: After the deadline and we don't have the case files.

954
01:18:45.960 --> 01:18:51.120
Daffodil Tyminski: Well, we have right now, this is shaping up to be an extremely long board meeting.

955
01:18:51.390 --> 01:18:51.780
james murez: I know.

956
01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:53.040
james murez: I think how we.

957
01:18:54.540 --> 01:19:00.150
Daffodil Tyminski: know, I know, we had a couple things come in very late my suggestion is we see if.

958
01:19:02.340 --> 01:19:03.300
Daffodil Tyminski: We have time.

959
01:19:04.410 --> 01:19:05.250
Daffodil Tyminski: To put them on.

960
01:19:08.100 --> 01:19:15.990
james murez: Okay well this one was a unanimous vote so theoretically, it would go on to the.

961
01:19:17.070 --> 01:19:17.640
Daffodil Tyminski: consent.

962
01:19:17.910 --> 01:19:18.870
james murez: Calendar yeah.

963
01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:26.700
james murez: So wouldn't take extra time I mean i'll take us a little bit of extra time right now to go through the process.

964
01:19:27.150 --> 01:19:42.630
james murez: But the only other thing is, we don't have the documents we don't have the application, the plans and the staff report, but I do know that they exist, so we could try and Russell those out of up a leak, and I suspect, you probably would be willing to send them to us.

965
01:19:42.870 --> 01:19:43.890
melissa diner : And i'll put up make them.

966
01:19:44.760 --> 01:19:45.240
melissa diner : sign a.

967
01:19:45.420 --> 01:19:48.600
melissa diner : Consent pending those items are submitted by Friday.

968
01:19:48.750 --> 01:20:02.220
james murez: yeah this this line item here just takes you to the general webpage so that's not taking you to whatever it was that was heard and the motion to approve the project as presented doesn't mean anything until.

969
01:20:03.270 --> 01:20:04.380
james murez: We see what that was.

970
01:20:05.670 --> 01:20:06.120
Daffodil Tyminski: Right.

971
01:20:07.230 --> 01:20:09.210
Daffodil Tyminski: that's fine with me i'll second that motion Melissa.

972
01:20:10.290 --> 01:20:11.640
melissa diner : Falling motion I don't see.

973
01:20:12.030 --> 01:20:17.610
james murez: I don't see the following motion, though, that wants to move this is what was sent, let me just make sure.

974
01:20:18.870 --> 01:20:20.430
That I got the entire email.

975
01:20:22.500 --> 01:20:24.390
james murez: That still doesn't have a motion.

976
01:20:27.690 --> 01:20:36.390
melissa diner : All the motion we just made would cover her having to submit if it was approved or denied in addition to any supporting documents so.

977
01:20:37.230 --> 01:20:39.240
james murez: yeah so we don't have a motion.

978
01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:52.200
james murez: We don't actually have a motion to this that was net, this is all that was sent to me was sent to me at six o'clock tonight, yes, I saw that right, but a little bit later than that, but it doesn't actually have.

979
01:20:53.670 --> 01:21:05.430
james murez: It says item 2321 on tonight's add common agenda was heard at loop back on October seven the following motion was made by mckellen seconded by Chris.

980
01:21:06.060 --> 01:21:23.250
james murez: The motion carried on unanimously 500 and then it just has the initials of how it was voted, please let me know if you have any additional questions thanks a lot, I guess, I have additional questions, so I don't know how we want to deal with them any suggestions.

981
01:21:27.300 --> 01:21:31.050
Daffodil Tyminski: I mean we could tax the leaks and it just bookmark this and come back to it.

982
01:21:31.980 --> 01:21:32.550
james murez: If we can.

983
01:21:32.670 --> 01:21:36.300
james murez: We can do that, we can assume that it was I mean I remember that it was approved, as presented.

984
01:21:37.980 --> 01:21:41.220
james murez: We can do that, I mean I you know.

985
01:21:41.580 --> 01:21:46.500
melissa diner : A gym, if you remember that it's approved as presented, then what are we talking about.

986
01:21:46.530 --> 01:21:47.610
melissa diner : that's the motion.

987
01:21:47.640 --> 01:21:49.650
james murez: What we don't have an actual written.

988
01:21:49.650 --> 01:21:57.990
melissa diner : Motion right, but the the motion was to consent with them, with the approval motion submitted and attachments correct.

989
01:21:58.470 --> 01:21:59.400
james murez: i'm fine with that.

990
01:22:00.780 --> 01:22:04.950
Daffodil Tyminski: I mean, I imagine the case description is what the motion was.

991
01:22:07.800 --> 01:22:09.360
Alley Bean: Page views and a CDP.

992
01:22:09.720 --> 01:22:14.550
melissa diner : yeah we move on to public comment, since we have a motion on the floor.

993
01:22:15.780 --> 01:22:17.940
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, let's do let's keep it going, this is.

994
01:22:20.820 --> 01:22:23.700
Daffodil Tyminski: hold on one SEC guys i'm trying to for some reason it's not bringing it up.

995
01:22:23.820 --> 01:22:24.300
james murez: Well, we need.

996
01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:27.390
james murez: ocean and somebody else to second.

997
01:22:27.480 --> 01:22:28.800
melissa diner : I already have that i'm.

998
01:22:28.800 --> 01:22:30.780
melissa diner : A motion daffodil second today.

999
01:22:30.870 --> 01:22:32.490
james murez: Okay, thank you, I didn't hear i'm sorry.

1000
01:22:32.520 --> 01:22:35.490
Daffodil Tyminski: And as far as I see actually there's no public comment on this.

1001
01:22:35.610 --> 01:22:37.920
Daffodil Tyminski: photo we're going to close public comment.

1002
01:22:38.010 --> 01:22:43.050
Daffodil Tyminski: and go to the Committee anyone have anything to say on the committee.

1003
01:22:46.950 --> 01:22:49.980
Daffodil Tyminski: Seeing no hands why don't we take a vote great.

1004
01:22:50.010 --> 01:22:52.710
Alley Bean: Jim and we're going to put it on the agenda.

1005
01:22:53.280 --> 01:22:54.390
james murez: i'm looking.

1006
01:22:54.480 --> 01:22:55.200
james murez: Andre said.

1007
01:22:55.260 --> 01:22:59.010
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, yeah pending receipt of the appropriate documents.

1008
01:22:59.250 --> 01:22:59.820
Correct.

1009
01:23:01.230 --> 01:23:01.800
melissa diner : Jim.

1010
01:23:01.950 --> 01:23:03.360
melissa diner : Yes, definitely.

1011
01:23:03.810 --> 01:23:04.500
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

1012
01:23:04.710 --> 01:23:06.240
melissa diner : I vote yes Ali.

1013
01:23:06.420 --> 01:23:06.900
Yes.

1014
01:23:09.090 --> 01:23:09.540
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

1015
01:23:11.190 --> 01:23:13.140
melissa diner : And NICO.

1016
01:23:14.160 --> 01:23:14.550
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

1017
01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:15.420
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

1018
01:23:15.510 --> 01:23:15.960
All right.

1019
01:23:20.040 --> 01:23:20.520
james murez: Okay.

1020
01:23:22.710 --> 01:23:24.030
james murez: Now we're on to old business.

1021
01:23:26.250 --> 01:23:27.540
james murez: Now we're on the new business.

1022
01:23:28.980 --> 01:23:29.610
james murez: So.

1023
01:23:31.470 --> 01:23:33.780
Daffodil Tyminski: Why don't we do 11 and 12 a together.

1024
01:23:36.630 --> 01:23:38.610
Daffodil Tyminski: What was 11 just.

1025
01:23:39.330 --> 01:23:41.580
james murez: Oh yeah old business there's no old business.

1026
01:23:44.160 --> 01:23:47.640
james murez: So Okay, we can do 11 and 12 at together.

1027
01:23:50.730 --> 01:23:51.720
james murez: Somebody want to make the motion.

1028
01:23:52.260 --> 01:23:55.710
Daffodil Tyminski: I will make the motion to put 11 and 12 a on the agenda.

1029
01:23:56.010 --> 01:23:57.240
Andrea Boccaletti: Then our second.

1030
01:23:58.740 --> 01:23:59.640
james murez: Public comment.

1031
01:24:01.980 --> 01:24:04.890
Daffodil Tyminski: um we've got let me let.

1032
01:24:06.420 --> 01:24:11.250
Daffodil Tyminski: Helen I don't know, maybe i'll let you go second so you can speak to something if you have to Lisa.

1033
01:24:12.660 --> 01:24:13.740
Daffodil Tyminski: Why don't you go.

1034
01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:16.980
james murez: who's the who's the last speaker.

1035
01:24:17.820 --> 01:24:18.570
Daffodil Tyminski: Erica more.

1036
01:24:18.810 --> 01:24:20.010
james murez: Okay, thank you.

1037
01:24:20.910 --> 01:24:36.630
Lisa Redmond: Okay, a couple things I hope I have to keep pressing this issue, but you keep publishing people's private phone numbers and private information and you keep saying you're going to address that but somehow that isn't so.

1038
01:24:37.890 --> 01:24:46.260
Lisa Redmond: Maybe i'll call Helen some lunch, now that I have her number um but the point I will i'm asking is did this go through committee.

1039
01:24:46.890 --> 01:25:02.190
Lisa Redmond: It doesn't say if it is or not, and if it hasn't gone through committee i'm going to suggest it does, and I know a lot of people feel anything with homelessness is pressing, but there's a huge difference between pressing and timely and.

1040
01:25:03.660 --> 01:25:18.150
Lisa Redmond: If unless there's like an exact date that this has to be done because it's coming before Council on the 21st and so they have to get their CDs and quick, then I get that but if there isn't a scheduled date.

1041
01:25:18.570 --> 01:25:20.700
Lisa Redmond: Then it should go through a committee first.

1042
01:25:21.480 --> 01:25:24.360
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, thank you Lisa Erica go ahead.

1043
01:25:28.050 --> 01:25:28.530
Erica Moore: Okay.

1044
01:25:31.980 --> 01:25:32.310
Erica Moore: Sorry.

1045
01:25:35.130 --> 01:25:38.610
Erica Moore: um as far as that we're talking about chop shop right.

1046
01:25:39.360 --> 01:25:41.970
Erica Moore: Yes, yeah i'm totally in favor.

1047
01:25:44.520 --> 01:25:49.230
Daffodil Tyminski: Great thank Thank you so much Helen go ahead you're going to send me.

1048
01:25:49.530 --> 01:25:50.010
Helen Fallon: Just to.

1049
01:25:50.130 --> 01:26:06.810
Helen Fallon: Just to clarify the Venice neighborhood Council it took a position on this and 2019 was a slightly different motion because it referred to this Council fly refers to the long beach city ordinance as the model and they referred to San Francisco and then.

1050
01:26:06.810 --> 01:26:07.440
Helen Fallon: When I brought.

1051
01:26:07.710 --> 01:26:14.280
Helen Fallon: on board a bicycle shop shop motion last year I my recollection is that went before the homeless committee.

1052
01:26:14.610 --> 01:26:30.990
Helen Fallon: was already vetted there, and when it went finally ATT COM decided they would just not even bother to put it before the board, they would just reiterate the letter that they sent in 2019, and this has been aired in front of stakeholders, I don't think there's a human being and.

1053
01:26:32.730 --> 01:26:45.180
Helen Fallon: I don't think there's too many stakeholders would think that it's okay for criminals to be praying on both the House and the House that's all I got to say about it and, yes, I would appreciate it if you make sure my personal email, is no longer on.

1054
01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:49.830
Helen Fallon: On in when it's when it actually becomes the final.

1055
01:26:50.970 --> 01:26:52.920
Helen Fallon: And yes, Lisa call me for calling.

1056
01:26:56.340 --> 01:26:59.370
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you all um okay go ahead um.

1057
01:27:00.450 --> 01:27:02.100
Daffodil Tyminski: Anyone on the board have a comment.

1058
01:27:03.690 --> 01:27:15.360
melissa diner : I have a comment real quick just about this personal email thing, but I don't know, whoever has said we've always always put the information that's submitted on the agendas and that's.

1059
01:27:15.750 --> 01:27:24.150
melissa diner : includes personal information, so we can reach out to the maker of motion if we have questions or need to add attachments and or if the public has questions.

1060
01:27:24.480 --> 01:27:36.570
melissa diner : So if Jim wants to take responsibility for now changing that given it's a required part of how you submit for everyone board members included that's fine but that's never something we've committed.

1061
01:27:37.890 --> 01:27:44.310
melissa diner : And it's not it's not on the agenda request page is not disclosed anywhere it's always been a requirement.

1062
01:27:46.920 --> 01:27:48.510
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Jim you have a comment.

1063
01:27:49.200 --> 01:28:03.720
james murez: So i'm just curious if this item was previously addressed on a prior board motion, why do we need to have it on this agenda, why can't we just resend a letter.

1064
01:28:05.010 --> 01:28:16.050
james murez: or resubmit the Community impact statement, based on the prior motion I know we can do that and I guess i'm not sure what the difference is between this chop shop.

1065
01:28:17.640 --> 01:28:24.600
james murez: issue and the previous chop shop issue and I guess, I would like to have somebody clarify that.

1066
01:28:27.420 --> 01:28:33.660
Daffodil Tyminski: Since Helen brought this up, I can let her do it if she wants, if not i'm happy to do it, but.

1067
01:28:33.690 --> 01:28:35.340
james murez: Do you remember our previous letter.

1068
01:28:36.030 --> 01:28:39.990
Daffodil Tyminski: Well Helen actually sent me all the previous letters um.

1069
01:28:40.050 --> 01:28:40.410
james murez: Is there.

1070
01:28:40.830 --> 01:28:41.220
Daffodil Tyminski: Is it.

1071
01:28:41.490 --> 01:28:52.140
james murez: Is there one from that we could use as a because if the if the prior board sent one in I can just ask Melissa who I think has the she knows how to do it.

1072
01:28:52.530 --> 01:28:55.470
Daffodil Tyminski: Right, so let me just let me just say the um.

1073
01:28:56.550 --> 01:29:05.280
Daffodil Tyminski: The urgency for doing this now is that there, this is again in committee and city council and there are some upcoming meetings that are time sensitive.

1074
01:29:06.360 --> 01:29:22.350
Daffodil Tyminski: The moat the ordinance or was changed slightly and because it's changed it's essentially the same one there's just a couple of references that are a little different So yes, we could easily take the old.

1075
01:29:24.030 --> 01:29:26.070
Daffodil Tyminski: Community impact statement and reuse it.

1076
01:29:26.610 --> 01:29:27.360
Daffodil Tyminski: With a letter.

1077
01:29:27.870 --> 01:29:29.190
Daffodil Tyminski: I can send you.

1078
01:29:29.880 --> 01:29:44.610
james murez: know I, I think we should just do that offline after the meeting and forget about the side of it there's no reason take board time to reiterate the same item all over again if the prior board already did it, we have, but we need to submit a Community impact statement it's a done deal.

1079
01:29:45.180 --> 01:29:51.060
melissa diner : And Jim I would just encourage you to use your executive authority take this off and move on and you'll.

1080
01:29:51.570 --> 01:29:55.890
Helen Fallon: Was there a Community impact statement approved, I thought it was just a letter that one out.

1081
01:29:56.010 --> 01:29:58.110
Helen Fallon: I don't think it was ever a Council file before.

1082
01:29:58.170 --> 01:29:58.800
james murez: yeah let me.

1083
01:29:59.730 --> 01:30:04.980
james murez: Know Helen let me interrupt you decide that you're not supposed to be talking anyway.

1084
01:30:06.090 --> 01:30:17.910
james murez: So anytime the board takes an action on any item meaning anytime the board votes and and on emotion and approves emotion or denies it.

1085
01:30:18.720 --> 01:30:26.790
james murez: Either way, however, it is a Community impact statement can be based referenced to that action being taken.

1086
01:30:27.300 --> 01:30:36.060
james murez: So, in the case that this item was discussed previously and a previous so so I know for a fact that IRA would never send out a letter.

1087
01:30:36.870 --> 01:30:45.060
james murez: Based on having had a conversation with somebody he would only do it, based on their having been action taken by the previous board.

1088
01:30:46.050 --> 01:30:56.040
james murez: Meaning that the board had a motion and whatever whoever submitted it, whether it was a committee or or an individual and with 60 signatures, however, it was done it doesn't make any difference.

1089
01:30:57.480 --> 01:31:03.900
james murez: emotion was made the motion was passed and that past motion then allowed him to write a letter.

1090
01:31:05.160 --> 01:31:18.120
james murez: The Community impact statement requirement is that it can only be made from the board, and that means that the decision had to have been previously made at the board so as long as we have a previous decision was made at the board.

1091
01:31:19.500 --> 01:31:20.190
james murez: we're good to go.

1092
01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:21.570
Helen Fallon: And I just.

1093
01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:28.380
Helen Fallon: get a clarification here because IRA was adamant video always had to have a specific CIS approved.

1094
01:31:28.830 --> 01:31:41.550
Helen Fallon: i'm fine if you folks are going to go on if you've gone you've made a decision to make a motion, the Council fella comes up, you will then file a ci so we don't have to go through this rigmarole that's why I submitted this this way.

1095
01:31:41.550 --> 01:31:42.810
james murez: Thank you, thank you Helen let.

1096
01:31:42.810 --> 01:31:43.500
james murez: me let you.

1097
01:31:44.280 --> 01:31:46.170
james murez: haven't did I get any part of that incorrect.

1098
01:31:47.190 --> 01:31:48.090
Ivan: No.

1099
01:31:48.630 --> 01:31:50.400
james murez: You didn't make thank, but let me.

1100
01:31:50.910 --> 01:31:52.620
Ivan: Let me point something out to hear.

1101
01:31:52.680 --> 01:31:56.430
james murez: You know what you can point it out pointed out to me after the meeting.

1102
01:31:56.730 --> 01:31:58.890
Ivan: know what we're doing.

1103
01:32:00.300 --> 01:32:00.630
james murez: we're going.

1104
01:32:00.930 --> 01:32:02.340
Ivan: To file number.

1105
01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:09.960
Ivan: Yes, that she's talking about is 21 1115 which means it's a brand new Council file.

1106
01:32:10.140 --> 01:32:14.280
Ivan: Yes, alright so whatever you sent in the past.

1107
01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:19.080
Ivan: Yes, wouldn't apply if the board approved to a different Council file.

1108
01:32:19.230 --> 01:32:20.190
Ivan: You won't have to go.

1109
01:32:20.220 --> 01:32:21.420
Ivan: back and do it again.

1110
01:32:21.570 --> 01:32:24.660
james murez: No that's not the point, the point is is the same issue.

1111
01:32:26.010 --> 01:32:32.100
Daffodil Tyminski: But it's almost yeah I think they just started a new file, because the basis of it is different.

1112
01:32:33.450 --> 01:32:35.520
james murez: it's the same issues is it still.

1113
01:32:37.290 --> 01:32:43.110
james murez: Ivan Thank you very much we're gonna move on, I understood perfectly perfectly what she said, thank you let's keep going.

1114
01:32:45.150 --> 01:32:47.820
james murez: Okay, let me share my screen we're moving on to the next item.

1115
01:32:52.530 --> 01:32:52.920
james murez: Okay.

1116
01:32:52.980 --> 01:32:56.070
Ivan: Good resolution we're just going to send another letter.

1117
01:32:56.670 --> 01:33:03.930
james murez: we're going we're going to send something into the Community impact we're going to file a Community impact statement, based on the previous decision yeah.

1118
01:33:04.920 --> 01:33:11.310
james murez: Alright well we'll we'll review it in between now and the end of the week, and if we screwed up we'll put it on the boards agenda but I don't think we did.

1119
01:33:12.330 --> 01:33:12.870
Ivan: Okay.

1120
01:33:13.950 --> 01:33:15.360
james murez: um 12 B.

1121
01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:22.710
james murez: And let's see do we want to do these together, because we do them one, at a time, so we need.

1122
01:33:24.480 --> 01:33:27.480
james murez: We need a motion to put let's see join.

1123
01:33:27.510 --> 01:33:28.680
james murez: me three.

1124
01:33:29.880 --> 01:33:31.860
james murez: She to code of conduct.

1125
01:33:32.910 --> 01:33:41.160
james murez: So you have 1234 1212.

1126
01:33:41.190 --> 01:33:42.600
Ivan: Be lead to disease separate.

1127
01:33:43.170 --> 01:33:43.710
Why.

1128
01:33:46.530 --> 01:33:48.270
Ivan: Because they're on different topics.

1129
01:33:49.050 --> 01:33:56.610
james murez: Okay, I thought they were all in the same thing rules and selection committee we're not discussing individual items and.

1130
01:33:57.390 --> 01:33:58.290
james murez: Okay, what.

1131
01:33:59.400 --> 01:34:01.890
james murez: we're we're not discussing the content we're discussing whether or.

1132
01:34:01.890 --> 01:34:04.170
Ivan: Not I understand that.

1133
01:34:04.590 --> 01:34:05.310
james murez: Okay we're.

1134
01:34:05.520 --> 01:34:09.090
Ivan: Talking about amending the standard rules.

1135
01:34:09.390 --> 01:34:10.950
james murez: Are and you know one, at a time.

1136
01:34:10.980 --> 01:34:15.120
james murez: Thank you Ivan all right, I don't want any problems tonight, I want to go home.

1137
01:34:16.140 --> 01:34:20.490
james murez: 12 be um somebody want to make a motion.

1138
01:34:21.690 --> 01:34:41.910
Alley Bean: I just have a point of clarification, for me, the request motion is very badly worded it's really confusing to me that's all so I don't know how to vote for it, like being on are not on because I it's just like, for example, as is, as is the case with lupus that that's so unclear I.

1139
01:34:41.970 --> 01:34:42.240
james murez: get it.

1140
01:34:42.660 --> 01:34:48.930
Alley Bean: Because there was discussion about this last week, so I think it should be really clear what the emotion is, and I just.

1141
01:34:49.230 --> 01:34:56.550
james murez: Thank you ellie that's a point of order, I got it, we need a motion on the floor, and it needs to be second, and so we can move on with our meeting.

1142
01:34:57.420 --> 01:35:00.450
Alley Bean: i'll make a motion I don't know what you motion to.

1143
01:35:04.050 --> 01:35:04.590
Okay, do we have a.

1144
01:35:06.270 --> 01:35:06.900
house, thank you.

1145
01:35:08.190 --> 01:35:09.180
james murez: Thank you, Melissa.

1146
01:35:09.450 --> 01:35:10.500
Alley Bean: What is the emotion.

1147
01:35:10.620 --> 01:35:12.210
james murez: Public comment, please.

1148
01:35:12.690 --> 01:35:14.340
Daffodil Tyminski: emotion is to place this on the.

1149
01:35:14.340 --> 01:35:15.690
Daffodil Tyminski: October board agenda.

1150
01:35:16.350 --> 01:35:18.300
Daffodil Tyminski: There is no public comment.

1151
01:35:21.630 --> 01:35:22.350
james murez: and raise.

1152
01:35:22.440 --> 01:35:24.360
james murez: Top dissidents have their hundreds.

1153
01:35:25.980 --> 01:35:26.700
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, they just put.

1154
01:35:26.910 --> 01:35:28.170
james murez: participants have their hand.

1155
01:35:28.170 --> 01:35:30.030
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay we're closing public comment.

1156
01:35:30.480 --> 01:35:32.580
james murez: To one already dropped off.

1157
01:35:33.330 --> 01:35:33.840
Okay.

1158
01:35:35.400 --> 01:35:36.420
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead Helen.

1159
01:35:37.320 --> 01:35:39.960
Helen Fallon: I would just suggest when you come to these rules.

1160
01:35:41.190 --> 01:35:55.410
Helen Fallon: For the board for the public that you actually have the original language what the change actually is, and the rationale for the change, these are the rules, you should be able to explain why this is better and what you have already.

1161
01:35:57.690 --> 01:35:59.760
Helen Fallon: Now reply to all of these revisions.

1162
01:36:01.080 --> 01:36:01.440
james murez: Thank you.

1163
01:36:01.500 --> 01:36:03.510
Daffodil Tyminski: um Lisa go ahead.

1164
01:36:04.470 --> 01:36:14.010
Lisa Redmond: yeah I was going to agree with kellen there, you should have the previous and the the news, so people can see the difference in the change of language.

1165
01:36:14.820 --> 01:36:25.920
Lisa Redmond: But i'm also going to point out that I about the personal information on the agenda, and this has been discussed many times but understand everyone.

1166
01:36:25.980 --> 01:36:26.820
Lisa Redmond: understands why you.

1167
01:36:26.850 --> 01:36:27.750
Daffodil Tyminski: need to pay on.

1168
01:36:28.230 --> 01:36:28.890
Lisa Redmond: A fucking.

1169
01:36:29.040 --> 01:36:29.910
Lisa Redmond: Yes, I am.

1170
01:36:30.270 --> 01:36:36.210
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah i'm eating oh it's off topic we we can send us an email will discussing it back to you.

1171
01:36:38.520 --> 01:36:39.750
Daffodil Tyminski: Any board comment.

1172
01:36:42.630 --> 01:36:49.620
melissa diner : My only comment on this is i've already been told by at least one other board members.

1173
01:36:49.680 --> 01:36:50.550
Daffodil Tyminski: Not now.

1174
01:36:50.640 --> 01:36:52.680
Daffodil Tyminski: On if it's on topic stay on topic.

1175
01:36:52.710 --> 01:37:00.090
melissa diner : it's it's it's on topic that this item and the next item, are going to be highly controversial.

1176
01:37:00.570 --> 01:37:05.160
melissa diner : i'm happy to add in the original links if they exist for any of these.

1177
01:37:05.490 --> 01:37:15.660
melissa diner : But I just I don't want to spend that much time on both this one, and the next one, when I feel like they're absolutely obsolete things that almost never come up.

1178
01:37:15.990 --> 01:37:30.030
melissa diner : And if anything they're just you know, in the spirit of more participation in my opinion, so that's all I wanted to say, I hope we just support putting them on, but I also hope we don't spend a lot of time on them moving forward.

1179
01:37:30.960 --> 01:37:31.410
Okay.

1180
01:37:33.420 --> 01:37:35.070
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead allie well.

1181
01:37:35.130 --> 01:37:48.300
Alley Bean: I just have the same comment, which is it's just a word in question for me, I think we should definitely have this on the agenda, but the the confusion last time for everybody, it seemed and myself included, was.

1182
01:37:48.930 --> 01:37:55.680
Alley Bean: I don't think anybody has a problem with the ex officio thing on every committee except it's against the bylaws what I heard.

1183
01:37:56.130 --> 01:38:07.260
Alley Bean: What I understood from Ivan to is on loop X, so can we just take the loop tech part off and I get clear and then I think everybody will will vote for it, and then won't be a big conversation.

1184
01:38:07.800 --> 01:38:15.660
Alley Bean: That seemed to be the issue that everybody was having a problem with, and then I thought it was according to Ivan it was in the bylaws that the President can't be.

1185
01:38:16.500 --> 01:38:32.280
Alley Bean: ex officio and vote on loop back that so that was my confusion, but this wording is really bad, for example, as in the case with lubec what does that mean it just it's just not worth it well, so it's going to be another huge discussion and take us into midnight hours so.

1186
01:38:32.340 --> 01:38:36.660
Alley Bean: Can we just clarify here going on the agenda and then we'll be good that's my feeling good.

1187
01:38:37.140 --> 01:38:39.960
james murez: howie way Ivan do not interrupt.

1188
01:38:42.780 --> 01:38:43.290
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

1189
01:38:47.970 --> 01:38:48.210
Andrea Boccaletti: Mike.

1190
01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:51.360
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm really sorry to I need to leave the meeting for a minute.

1191
01:38:51.900 --> 01:38:53.730
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'll be back in a couple minutes.

1192
01:38:54.870 --> 01:38:55.230
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay Mike.

1193
01:38:56.040 --> 01:39:01.950
Andrea Boccaletti: If we could really respect the hands being raised and calling people have their hands raised, thank you.

1194
01:39:04.770 --> 01:39:07.440
james murez: Well, your hand is raised, did you want to speak I.

1195
01:39:07.590 --> 01:39:08.190
Andrea Boccaletti: just spoke.

1196
01:39:08.550 --> 01:39:12.600
james murez: Okay, thank you um I need to stop sharing, so I can see, whose.

1197
01:39:12.600 --> 01:39:14.010
james murez: hands are raised hold on a second.

1198
01:39:17.490 --> 01:39:19.380
james murez: So my hand is racing so as ivan's.

1199
01:39:22.980 --> 01:39:29.550
james murez: I will, I will take a first stab at this and i'm going to share the screen, so I can make it clear.

1200
01:39:31.380 --> 01:39:37.530
james murez: A couple of things, first of all, there was a comment made about their needs to be.

1201
01:39:38.730 --> 01:39:40.920
james murez: reference to the old language.

1202
01:39:43.110 --> 01:40:03.840
james murez: 12 vs new language it's not currently in the bylaws although it's been the accepted practice for many, many, many years back, as long as I can remember, and we were told by the person who has been working on the rules and the bylaws for since time began.

1203
01:40:05.010 --> 01:40:18.000
james murez: For instance, nearly time again that this was in the earlier version of the bylaws and then somehow it got stripped out, perhaps by done we don't know we don't have record of it, the records have been lost or misplaced.

1204
01:40:19.470 --> 01:40:38.220
james murez: Now, on to the wording that's here one of the things that we're doing in the rules and selections committee is trying to align the bylaws and the rules of the Standing roles, where the two documents will stay in synchronous with each other as time continues on.

1205
01:40:39.540 --> 01:40:41.850
james murez: If we were to write into here.

1206
01:40:43.620 --> 01:40:53.820
james murez: In so being the president's membership does not conflict with the bylaws, for example, as in the case with Lou Pack.

1207
01:40:54.840 --> 01:41:02.040
james murez: The bylaws make it very clear that Lou Pack is only allowed to have one board member.

1208
01:41:03.090 --> 01:41:13.620
james murez: So the wording here, which is actually quite clear, if you read it, word for word, in my opinion, the president's membership does not conflict with the bylaws.

1209
01:41:14.070 --> 01:41:27.240
james murez: For example, as in the case with Luca know, maybe should say within the case, as described in the bylaws for loop back, but the idea being that loop Pack is presently.

1210
01:41:28.350 --> 01:41:31.350
james murez: The only committee where that exists.

1211
01:41:32.700 --> 01:41:36.180
james murez: In the future, if a new committee was created.

1212
01:41:37.320 --> 01:41:48.390
james murez: Where the President was not to be part of the committee, which might exist, for instance in the election committed maybe the President should not be part of the election.

1213
01:41:48.840 --> 01:42:03.960
james murez: Then we would have to go back and rewrite the standing rules, again, so the idea was we don't want to have to keep rewriting the standard rules at some point in time, we probably want to have this standing rule written into the bylaws.

1214
01:42:05.010 --> 01:42:11.580
james murez: And we can remove it for all together from the standing rules and again, we would have to then go back and reference, so long as it doesn't.

1215
01:42:12.270 --> 01:42:24.780
james murez: conflict with other sections of these bylaws but right now we're only talking about this being standing rules, not conflicting with the bylaws, for example, as it would, in the case of loop back.

1216
01:42:25.050 --> 01:42:26.430
Alley Bean: That would be better wording.

1217
01:42:27.150 --> 01:42:28.140
james murez: Well, you like that better.

1218
01:42:28.320 --> 01:42:29.640
Alley Bean: Yes, as it does in the.

1219
01:42:30.180 --> 01:42:31.560
Alley Bean: boy does as it.

1220
01:42:32.640 --> 01:42:33.900
james murez: As it does.

1221
01:42:33.990 --> 01:42:36.090
james murez: uh huh is it.

1222
01:42:37.980 --> 01:42:38.760
james murez: Does.

1223
01:42:39.990 --> 01:42:43.590
james murez: Is he okay so that's already in there.

1224
01:42:43.800 --> 01:42:46.200
Ivan: Okay i'm you can't rewrite a committee motion.

1225
01:42:46.560 --> 01:42:47.400
james murez: I understand that.

1226
01:42:47.730 --> 01:42:49.800
melissa diner : He can add like Claire.

1227
01:42:49.980 --> 01:42:50.670
therapy.

1228
01:42:52.470 --> 01:42:52.950
melissa diner : For.

1229
01:42:53.070 --> 01:42:56.640
james murez: Now i'm just making notes i'm just making those.

1230
01:42:56.880 --> 01:43:13.020
james murez: Okay, the board the board can make this when the time comes, but I guess if this makes it clear now that you understand what I said i'm going to stop sharing let's move forward with it let's take a vote and move forward with our meeting now I haven't had his hand up and.

1231
01:43:16.110 --> 01:43:19.740
Ivan: Alright, so I was just gonna say Ali response to you.

1232
01:43:21.210 --> 01:43:29.850
Ivan: This committee can't change it put the board can so if you want to make a change to language you can do it at the board meeting.

1233
01:43:33.630 --> 01:43:33.990
james murez: Okay.

1234
01:43:34.320 --> 01:43:37.830
melissa diner : And we also will I will, I think we should add.

1235
01:43:38.160 --> 01:43:44.040
melissa diner : A point of something like an addendum that says this is new language it's not in the in the.

1236
01:43:44.610 --> 01:43:45.150
Ivan: don't we.

1237
01:43:45.210 --> 01:43:45.600
Ivan: I love.

1238
01:43:46.530 --> 01:43:52.500
melissa diner : Okay well someone clarify it then because it'll come up and if it's written it might be helpful i'm just trying to.

1239
01:43:52.500 --> 01:43:57.930
melissa diner : reiterate the wishes of the Committee to help people not ask questions at the board meeting.

1240
01:43:58.140 --> 01:44:01.590
Ivan: Okay, this is a new motion is no one would.

1241
01:44:03.900 --> 01:44:05.970
melissa diner : clear to you it's not clear to everyone.

1242
01:44:06.300 --> 01:44:06.930
Ivan: yeah we have.

1243
01:44:06.990 --> 01:44:07.830
No, Melissa.

1244
01:44:08.880 --> 01:44:11.340
james murez: Melissa we can add that as a comment.

1245
01:44:12.930 --> 01:44:19.320
james murez: we're not we're not making it as part of the motion it'll just be, this is a new new standing role that's great.

1246
01:44:19.350 --> 01:44:24.090
james murez: perfect right okay let's move on, take a boat, are you done Ivan I don't want to cut you off.

1247
01:44:24.180 --> 01:44:25.020
Ivan: i'm done Thank you.

1248
01:44:25.140 --> 01:44:25.920
james murez: Thank you okay.

1249
01:44:27.690 --> 01:44:28.650
james murez: All the hands, yes.

1250
01:44:29.370 --> 01:44:30.300
melissa diner : Capital gone.

1251
01:44:31.350 --> 01:44:33.390
james murez: yeah she had to run out and.

1252
01:44:34.740 --> 01:44:35.670
james murez: You know.

1253
01:44:36.210 --> 01:44:39.630
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm on i'm on but i'm gonna just abstain because I missed the discussion.

1254
01:44:39.870 --> 01:44:43.050
melissa diner : Okay, thanks i'm seeing Ali.

1255
01:44:43.410 --> 01:44:43.830
Yes.

1256
01:44:46.950 --> 01:44:48.270
Andrea Boccaletti: Oh sorry yes.

1257
01:45:02.340 --> 01:45:05.040
melissa diner : Great Thank you i'm.

1258
01:45:05.520 --> 01:45:09.810
james murez: def adele did I understand correctly, you want to change over to your cell phone, but I hear that.

1259
01:45:10.710 --> 01:45:11.490
Daffodil Tyminski: I already did.

1260
01:45:11.850 --> 01:45:12.690
james murez: Okay, thank you.

1261
01:45:16.560 --> 01:45:17.940
james murez: Okay um.

1262
01:45:21.570 --> 01:45:22.290
Now we're.

1263
01:45:23.520 --> 01:45:24.540
melissa diner : On 12 see.

1264
01:45:24.750 --> 01:45:26.670
james murez: yeah I gotta get back there hold on.

1265
01:45:28.590 --> 01:45:29.100
Do.

1266
01:45:30.360 --> 01:45:31.740
It all messed up your whole.

1267
01:45:33.900 --> 01:45:34.800
nervous system.

1268
01:45:43.950 --> 01:45:45.450
james murez: getting close there we go.

1269
01:45:46.710 --> 01:45:47.130
james murez: Okay.

1270
01:45:49.800 --> 01:45:50.520
james murez: What do we say.

1271
01:45:51.060 --> 01:45:52.500
melissa diner : c as in cat.

1272
01:45:52.860 --> 01:45:54.000
james murez: c as in cat.

1273
01:45:55.020 --> 01:45:57.870
james murez: joint meeting between committee and dnc.

1274
01:45:59.100 --> 01:46:00.300
james murez: Meaning dnc board.

1275
01:46:01.890 --> 01:46:03.120
james murez: I need a motion.

1276
01:46:03.990 --> 01:46:04.350
i'll make.

1277
01:46:05.880 --> 01:46:05.970
Alley Bean: sure.

1278
01:46:08.970 --> 01:46:09.810
james murez: We get a second.

1279
01:46:12.060 --> 01:46:13.800
melissa diner : I make us the second Melissa.

1280
01:46:14.280 --> 01:46:15.090
james murez: Thank you, Melissa.

1281
01:46:17.130 --> 01:46:22.290
james murez: um any hands are you going to be able to do the hand steph dillard you want me to.

1282
01:46:23.790 --> 01:46:25.140
Daffodil Tyminski: If you could that would be great.

1283
01:46:25.890 --> 01:46:29.310
james murez: No problem I just can't share the screen at the same time.

1284
01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:39.240
james murez: attendees we have one who raised hand Helen go ahead, please, well, we have to raise hands after Erica more no more.

1285
01:46:41.010 --> 01:46:51.630
Helen Fallon: That Ryan would just, I would like to point out that I attended the meeting which this motion was discussed, and there were several rationales some of them are usually conflicting.

1286
01:46:52.170 --> 01:47:04.290
Helen Fallon: On this issue, so I think you should provide the public with exactly why you need this and what the responsibilities of board need board members are going to be when they're in this kind of.

1287
01:47:05.100 --> 01:47:14.010
Helen Fallon: Committee declared joint meeting between the committee and the board of officers, because there's quite a bit of confusion about what you can or cannot do and I think the public.

1288
01:47:14.820 --> 01:47:29.010
Helen Fallon: needs to know what the rule is that some people were talking like oh you're going to be a panelist or you're going to be talking all you can give your opinion, all of which is my understanding, you can't do so, I think you need to clarify before you make a rule like this.

1289
01:47:34.920 --> 01:47:36.330
james murez: i'm Erica go ahead, please.

1290
01:47:38.550 --> 01:47:44.970
Erica Moore: hi yeah I agree with you it's it's confusing because it, it seems like there's so much.

1291
01:47:45.840 --> 01:47:58.170
Erica Moore: crossover everywhere, and I think what from what I heard a lot of a lot of the new people don't really know what all the rules are things and it's I think that this is just opening a can of worms personally.

1292
01:47:58.800 --> 01:48:09.960
Erica Moore: I really think that it does need to be loved outline more clearly as well, I wasn't able to be at that meeting, and I was really disappointed that I had to miss it um but.

1293
01:48:10.740 --> 01:48:19.410
Erica Moore: These are really important things and I really think that you know something like this can have far reaching impact, so I think this should not be taken lightly, thank you.

1294
01:48:21.960 --> 01:48:26.850
james murez: Okay, public comment is closed um do we have any committee comment i've been go ahead.

1295
01:48:27.300 --> 01:48:31.410
Ivan: yeah all right, I think there's a typo or something here.

1296
01:48:32.820 --> 01:48:35.490
Ivan: I don't remember it passing like this it says.

1297
01:48:35.970 --> 01:48:44.310
Ivan: All committee meetings are joint meetings that should be shall be agenda eyes as joint meeting.

1298
01:48:47.190 --> 01:48:47.580
Ivan: They don't.

1299
01:48:47.820 --> 01:48:52.710
Ivan: automatically become joint meeting they have to be agenda is a joint meeting.

1300
01:48:54.630 --> 01:48:57.570
Ivan: That has to be in the language meeting.

1301
01:48:59.790 --> 01:49:04.020
james murez: Okay, so we have to fix this word what did you say it was all committee meetings.

1302
01:49:04.170 --> 01:49:07.230
Ivan: Committee meeting shall be agenda eyes.

1303
01:49:09.090 --> 01:49:10.140
Ivan: I was dry cleaning.

1304
01:49:19.680 --> 01:49:21.330
james murez: Okay, does that look about right.

1305
01:49:23.250 --> 01:49:23.730
Ivan: i'm.

1306
01:49:24.120 --> 01:49:24.360
james murez: Nice.

1307
01:49:25.230 --> 01:49:28.680
Ivan: too small, but company agenda as.

1308
01:49:30.510 --> 01:49:34.800
Ivan: Not just to be a gen diagnosed as what's that are the word in there.

1309
01:49:35.340 --> 01:49:36.780
james murez: that's it's the deleted.

1310
01:49:37.350 --> 01:49:38.970
Ivan: It was deleted.

1311
01:49:39.120 --> 01:49:39.570
Okay.

1312
01:49:41.340 --> 01:49:41.820
james murez: Okay.

1313
01:49:44.610 --> 01:49:45.150
melissa diner : And I thought.

1314
01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:46.800
melissa diner : Okay, raise my hand.

1315
01:49:47.040 --> 01:49:49.890
james murez: Yes, go ahead, I just want to make sure i'm done with with Ivan.

1316
01:49:50.250 --> 01:50:04.230
melissa diner : I just want to be clear for people that we don't fall down the rabbit hole of like over red tape, like in order to have a joint committee meeting your agenda has to say it's a Joint Committee meeting.

1317
01:50:04.710 --> 01:50:13.890
melissa diner : But the the language changing is the saintly like you know and and even if you pass this just to a point to not spend more time on it than this.

1318
01:50:14.250 --> 01:50:22.350
melissa diner : Like if you submit an agenda and it doesn't say it's a Joint Committee meeting, do you think dawn's going to be like checking it for you to not have a meeting no and.

1319
01:50:22.710 --> 01:50:31.740
melissa diner : This literally comes up almost never I just want to be clear, like and also i've been for a point of clarification to people, so they know what they're voting on.

1320
01:50:32.070 --> 01:50:43.800
melissa diner : I think you should clarify that it just allows board members to speak as board members not as individuals from the public, which they could do anyways right Can you clarify that.

1321
01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:54.060
Ivan: yeah well you're you're right but I wouldn't put that in the motion, you can explain that at the board meeting when people were are discussing me.

1322
01:50:54.600 --> 01:51:01.050
Ivan: Okay, and I can talk about that too big split would wipe out bad comments we didn't change this.

1323
01:51:01.590 --> 01:51:03.360
melissa diner : Day thanks okay.

1324
01:51:04.290 --> 01:51:10.590
james murez: yeah I would i'm going to do one thing everybody can watch me scroll really quickly, just so nobody realized everybody realizes.

1325
01:51:11.130 --> 01:51:21.840
james murez: That every ad calm meeting see up here it's always a joint meeting this is nothing new we've done this, since the time began it just that we're trying to clarify it now.

1326
01:51:22.860 --> 01:51:42.990
james murez: um and and you know, there was an interesting comment made but recall who it was it just made it, but the comment that was made was she this is complicated and I don't understand because I didn't go to the meeting, excuse me we've been recording every single meeting every single meeting.

1327
01:51:44.610 --> 01:51:55.170
james murez: That anybody can go back and listen to now, before this next board meeting one of the things that I plan to do is send everybody on the board the links to all those video recordings.

1328
01:51:55.950 --> 01:52:00.930
james murez: Because anybody that says they're not informed or they don't understand, they need to go back and listen.

1329
01:52:01.170 --> 01:52:09.870
james murez: To the actual meeting to understand the content, the substance that was discussed, and this was carried out in great detail so for us to have to go back through it again now.

1330
01:52:10.170 --> 01:52:16.290
james murez: Just means that people aren't doing their homework and that's not fair to the rest of us that are doing our homework and are going all of these meetings.

1331
01:52:17.340 --> 01:52:21.150
melissa diner : You can also call Ivan or gym or any of us that might.

1332
01:52:21.150 --> 01:52:22.620
melissa diner : know at any time.

1333
01:52:23.370 --> 01:52:25.080
james murez: ellie has her hand up le go ahead.

1334
01:52:25.290 --> 01:52:25.920
Alley Bean: i'm sorry.

1335
01:52:26.910 --> 01:52:28.740
james murez: Definitely, you have your hand up go ahead.

1336
01:52:29.880 --> 01:52:40.560
Daffodil Tyminski: I do one, just to clarify what what is going to be sent as links to the videos with where in the video they can find it so no one has to sit and listen to every committee meeting.

1337
01:52:41.250 --> 01:52:49.440
Daffodil Tyminski: You know, Jim will direct you to like the specific part of the meeting, where this was discussed, but I would just say in general, I really feel like.

1338
01:52:49.830 --> 01:52:59.790
Daffodil Tyminski: The issue here is whether this goes on the board agenda, not the merits of the motion and we've completely just gotten away from that in this meeting, and this was these were passed by committee.

1339
01:53:01.290 --> 01:53:08.490
Daffodil Tyminski: And so the issue is, does it go to the board or not, and this should be a very simple discussion, and so I would.

1340
01:53:09.360 --> 01:53:23.820
Daffodil Tyminski: remind everyone that we are not getting into whether we like it don't like it whatever it's whether the Board should be hearing it in general we've adopted the position, respecting the committee's that if the committee's approve it and pass it we will put it on the board agenda.

1341
01:53:26.790 --> 01:53:27.840
james murez: let's say you have your hand up.

1342
01:53:28.260 --> 01:53:30.900
melissa diner : I don't mean to I just him doing two things.

1343
01:53:31.080 --> 01:53:31.830
james murez: at once, take.

1344
01:53:32.220 --> 01:53:33.870
Erica Moore: boring all the extra hands.

1345
01:53:34.050 --> 01:53:36.000
melissa diner : Are we ready to take a vote on this, or what.

1346
01:53:36.030 --> 01:53:36.840
Alley Bean: Yes, thank you.

1347
01:53:37.890 --> 01:53:38.880
Alley Bean: Wait wait wait wait no wait.

1348
01:53:38.910 --> 01:53:41.940
james murez: Sorry, I lower your hand thinking you were done.

1349
01:53:42.810 --> 01:53:49.260
Alley Bean: I just one last thing I again kind of like the thing which you then went on to clarify which Ivan says we can't before the meeting.

1350
01:53:49.560 --> 01:53:59.460
Alley Bean: I think it would be great if you explain to everyone what a joint meeting is before we have because people are gonna it's again it's just I think people need that.

1351
01:54:00.090 --> 01:54:00.480
Okay.

1352
01:54:03.870 --> 01:54:05.550
james murez: Okay let's take about roll call.

1353
01:54:06.690 --> 01:54:07.170
melissa diner : Jim.

1354
01:54:07.560 --> 01:54:09.180
melissa diner : Yes, dafoe.

1355
01:54:10.530 --> 01:54:11.010
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

1356
01:54:11.880 --> 01:54:13.830
melissa diner : Yes, Andrea.

1357
01:54:14.220 --> 01:54:15.900
melissa diner : Yes, Ali.

1358
01:54:16.170 --> 01:54:18.510
melissa diner : Yes, and NICO.

1359
01:54:21.960 --> 01:54:25.680
james murez: NICO you're being so quiet I love it make it easy.

1360
01:54:32.280 --> 01:54:34.020
james murez: Okay, moving along D.

1361
01:54:35.850 --> 01:54:38.250
james murez: So this was a rack motion.

1362
01:54:39.780 --> 01:54:40.650
james murez: i'm.

1363
01:54:42.480 --> 01:54:46.320
james murez: 7011 person abstained from the committee.

1364
01:54:47.760 --> 01:54:49.260
james murez: Because they didn't understand what.

1365
01:54:49.320 --> 01:54:49.920
Ivan: The scoop.

1366
01:54:50.160 --> 01:54:50.940
james murez: This was about.

1367
01:54:59.400 --> 01:55:08.400
james murez: I can summarize it very, very quickly, we don't really want to get into the merits of it as Melissa just pointed out, but basically.

1368
01:55:10.320 --> 01:55:14.820
james murez: The Director of Rack, I think that's what she calls herself.

1369
01:55:16.110 --> 01:55:18.150
james murez: is trying to.

1370
01:55:19.440 --> 01:55:20.280
james murez: Pass.

1371
01:55:21.090 --> 01:55:24.870
james murez: A new rule that will allow her.

1372
01:55:26.190 --> 01:55:34.200
james murez: for whatever reason she so deems so to be able to remove any elected board member.

1373
01:55:34.920 --> 01:55:53.100
james murez: or any appointed, excuse me any selected committee Member at her own will and her own discretion, without any hearing without any appeal process and without any recourse by the board or the Community that voted the Member into office.

1374
01:55:54.240 --> 01:55:55.350
Daffodil Tyminski: it's done.

1375
01:55:55.650 --> 01:56:05.040
james murez: it's the head of done that's correct I don't know who said that's what yes that's correct this is the woman that's in charge of the Department of neighborhood empowerment Rachel and I don't remember how to pronounce her last name.

1376
01:56:06.930 --> 01:56:11.280
james murez: And then, I have a motion to put this on the board.

1377
01:56:12.540 --> 01:56:13.440
james murez: Under new business.

1378
01:56:15.180 --> 01:56:15.870
james murez: Word agenda.

1379
01:56:17.160 --> 01:56:26.400
Daffodil Tyminski: it's daffodil i'll make the motion and to be clear, the emotion is is to not approve this proposed change that is the Rack motion.

1380
01:56:26.760 --> 01:56:27.840
melissa diner : And a second it.

1381
01:56:29.850 --> 01:56:32.100
james murez: Okay, any public comment.

1382
01:56:33.810 --> 01:56:34.320
Alley Bean: um.

1383
01:56:35.370 --> 01:56:38.400
james murez: I see two hands up, no one hand up.

1384
01:56:39.510 --> 01:56:40.500
james murez: Here okay go ahead.

1385
01:56:42.810 --> 01:56:53.700
Erica Moore: hi can you hear me yep okay good Okay, well, I just have a question is is that what is the normal procedure, I mean I don't think a person quote unquote should just be making random decisions but.

1386
01:56:54.150 --> 01:57:05.520
Erica Moore: If she's the head of that department and she's evaluating it I know you're I think that's weird why wouldn't there be due process seems like it's like a departure from what they normally do.

1387
01:57:05.820 --> 01:57:11.910
james murez: There is currently a process which requires them to have a panel of people impartial people.

1388
01:57:12.720 --> 01:57:27.810
james murez: hear the hear the complaint here the problem here the issue so, in other words, if one person on the committee was to call somebody a swear word and that person filed a grievance report and went through the whole process, she can just say oh I don't like.

1389
01:57:28.740 --> 01:57:30.930
Erica Moore: What you're saying he could do My point is that.

1390
01:57:31.260 --> 01:57:34.290
james murez: they're currently yes Erica Erica.

1391
01:57:34.320 --> 01:57:48.150
james murez: There currently is a procedure in place that allows them to do it they're trying to cut their budget that's what it boils down to they're trying to take they're trying to take new controls, so they don't have to go through the process.

1392
01:57:49.410 --> 01:57:53.130
Daffodil Tyminski: Again, the merits of the motion, we can discuss at the board meeting.

1393
01:57:54.180 --> 01:58:01.590
Erica Moore: Really shitty weather, because I think, obviously, they should be doing something that's reasonable and fair, which is having due process so.

1394
01:58:01.860 --> 01:58:06.210
james murez: Thank you, thank you Erica Helen you put your hand down and then back up did you want to speak.

1395
01:58:06.750 --> 01:58:12.990
Helen Fallon: Yes, I did, because I was wanting to make a point of information I looked up the Minutes from the Rules Committee.

1396
01:58:13.500 --> 01:58:26.910
Helen Fallon: And Ivan said you're not supposed to amend emotion that's been submitted by the Committee, it should reflect exactly what the committee voted on and the language you added to that last one is not an emotion that the committee voted on according to their minutes so.

1397
01:58:27.300 --> 01:58:36.240
james murez: Thank you i'm going to be doing that, at the board minute at the board meeting I just made that in my notes, Melissa didn't do that in her notes that was just so I wouldn't forget.

1398
01:58:36.270 --> 01:58:39.330
Helen Fallon: Okay, that wasn't clear when you voted on it at all.

1399
01:58:39.540 --> 01:58:42.540
james murez: We were we were voting to put the item on the agenda.

1400
01:58:42.570 --> 01:58:43.890
Helen Fallon: Not as long as you're.

1401
01:58:44.190 --> 01:58:45.690
Helen Fallon: Okay, as long as you're not putting.

1402
01:58:45.690 --> 01:58:46.410
Helen Fallon: Now language.

1403
01:58:47.550 --> 01:59:00.510
james murez: Helen he did not vote to amend the motion we didn't do anything like that we just voted to put the motion as it was written, which is the way it was on what was published, not with my notes okay.

1404
01:59:00.570 --> 01:59:01.800
Helen Fallon: Okay, I think you.

1405
01:59:03.060 --> 01:59:05.460
james murez: All right, closing public comment, Melissa go ahead.

1406
01:59:07.560 --> 01:59:09.060
melissa diner : I didn't have my hand up.

1407
01:59:09.540 --> 01:59:10.050
Okay.

1408
01:59:11.370 --> 01:59:13.440
james murez: Erica you had your hand up so you want to lower it.

1409
01:59:15.810 --> 01:59:16.860
james murez: um.

1410
01:59:19.560 --> 01:59:20.610
james murez: let's take a roll call vote.

1411
01:59:23.010 --> 01:59:23.730
melissa diner : Okay, Jim.

1412
01:59:24.090 --> 01:59:24.540
Yes.

1413
01:59:26.190 --> 01:59:26.760
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

1414
01:59:28.230 --> 01:59:28.650
Ivan: Yes.

1415
01:59:30.480 --> 01:59:30.870
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

1416
01:59:32.370 --> 01:59:33.930
melissa diner : and

1417
01:59:38.850 --> 01:59:39.210
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

1418
01:59:39.630 --> 01:59:40.110
Nico Ruderman: Thank you.

1419
01:59:47.490 --> 01:59:50.460
james murez: So this motion is is not.

1420
01:59:51.720 --> 02:00:03.510
james murez: A new one, it is an amendment to a standing role, so it says amendment, so I guess the other one should just say knew we wanted to be consistent, can I get a motion to put this on the floor, please.

1421
02:00:08.430 --> 02:00:09.630
melissa diner : i'll do it, Melissa.

1422
02:00:10.680 --> 02:00:11.910
james murez: Thank you, do we have a second.

1423
02:00:12.780 --> 02:00:14.310
Daffodil Tyminski: I will second it Stafford oh.

1424
02:00:14.760 --> 02:00:15.630
james murez: Thank you know.

1425
02:00:17.010 --> 02:00:18.270
james murez: let's take public comment.

1426
02:00:19.980 --> 02:00:29.280
james murez: But I wonder if there's a way I can leave this up it's long, and I think people still want to see it let's see if I can do it this way, public comment Robin ruta still has her hand up go ahead, Robin.

1427
02:00:31.380 --> 02:00:35.460
Robin Rudisill: I actually had my hand up before you close public comment on the last one.

1428
02:00:35.640 --> 02:00:37.170
james murez: Oh well take your comment now.

1429
02:00:37.470 --> 02:00:52.410
Robin Rudisill: yeah it doesn't impact you voted on, but I would like to suggest that, for the workplace equity policy in the workplace violence policy that you provide links to those so that your board members know what they're voting on when they suggest to add them.

1430
02:00:53.460 --> 02:00:54.720
james murez: Okay i'll make a note.

1431
02:00:55.320 --> 02:00:57.060
Robin Rudisill: and on on this one.

1432
02:00:58.440 --> 02:01:11.310
Robin Rudisill: I don't know i'm a little bit concerned about just the Chair having the discretion as to what constitutes good cause, normally, it needs to be you know, a couple three board members.

1433
02:01:12.360 --> 02:01:13.890
Robin Rudisill: or something like that, but.

1434
02:01:15.330 --> 02:01:20.820
Robin Rudisill: So i'd like to just I know that's more like content, so we can't really consider that, right now, but.

1435
02:01:22.050 --> 02:01:26.160
Robin Rudisill: It just again it's unclear, the motions really kind of unclear because.

1436
02:01:28.380 --> 02:01:37.350
Robin Rudisill: You know it's there's no real information as to what would be good cause a little more information on what that would be.

1437
02:01:39.510 --> 02:01:45.810
james murez: Okay, thank you um I think I saw some other hands up here hold on a second.

1438
02:01:47.040 --> 02:01:48.180
james murez: Erica go ahead, please.

1439
02:01:48.720 --> 02:01:59.970
Erica Moore: hey there you know just like you just said about that other issue it shouldn't be a singular person, I think, because it's so subjective and I think that I think it should be, I think it should be.

1440
02:02:01.410 --> 02:02:12.120
Erica Moore: It should not just be the chairperson it doesn't make sense, just like you just basically you're basically doing exactly you're going against what you just actually voted on a second ago.

1441
02:02:12.600 --> 02:02:17.490
Erica Moore: I mean it's obviously different issue but it's the same thing really it's one person having all the power.

1442
02:02:17.820 --> 02:02:28.350
Erica Moore: Which doesn't seem to make sense, because it's very subjective to decide what should be removed, or what should not you know your your I don't think that's I don't think that's a bias.

1443
02:02:28.410 --> 02:02:29.760
Erica Moore: Is what i'm trying to really say.

1444
02:02:30.090 --> 02:02:30.930
Erica Moore: I think that that's.

1445
02:02:32.010 --> 02:02:38.100
Erica Moore: That doesn't make sense, it should be at least several people, but I don't know it just doesn't make sense, thank you.

1446
02:02:38.940 --> 02:02:39.720
james murez: hey Thank you.

1447
02:02:41.850 --> 02:02:42.660
james murez: um.

1448
02:02:44.100 --> 02:02:49.260
james murez: let's move on there's one Robin had her hand up do you eat Robin did you finish go ahead.

1449
02:02:50.550 --> 02:02:50.970
Robin Rudisill: well.

1450
02:02:52.290 --> 02:02:54.000
Robin Rudisill: I i'm just wondering if.

1451
02:02:54.420 --> 02:02:55.500
Alley Bean: there's any guidance in.

1452
02:02:55.500 --> 02:03:00.300
Robin Rudisill: The brown Act or the robert's rules of order on this point, I guess that's a question for Ivan.

1453
02:03:01.980 --> 02:03:04.680
james murez: It will get diving in a second, thank you for asking the question.

1454
02:03:05.880 --> 02:03:11.010
james murez: um Okay, no more public comment Thank you do we have any committee comments.

1455
02:03:12.060 --> 02:03:13.290
james murez: Anybody want to raise your hand.

1456
02:03:14.610 --> 02:03:16.590
melissa diner : I, I want to say that we should.

1457
02:03:17.610 --> 02:03:19.890
melissa diner : I hope we just put this on because.

1458
02:03:20.910 --> 02:03:36.480
melissa diner : we've seen what you know if we don't have an efficient meeting, where we can put a lot of things on consent and somebody can just common make up a fictitious me and not really make sense and pull everything off that really hurts us and I don't think we're trying to.

1459
02:03:37.530 --> 02:03:39.180
Alley Bean: You know, say anyone that.

1460
02:03:39.390 --> 02:03:41.160
melissa diner : comes to these meetings or lot and it.

1461
02:03:41.160 --> 02:03:41.850
melissa diner : speaks.

1462
02:03:42.240 --> 02:03:43.110
Alley Bean: To simply.

1463
02:03:43.650 --> 02:03:44.730
melissa diner : Where has the reason of.

1464
02:03:44.730 --> 02:03:46.050
Alley Bean: Any find that they can't pull.

1465
02:03:46.050 --> 02:03:48.450
melissa diner : It off, but I think it's just to eliminate.

1466
02:03:48.450 --> 02:03:51.060
melissa diner : Those outliers from.

1467
02:03:51.090 --> 02:03:54.150
melissa diner : Being able to derail our meeting, thank you.

1468
02:03:56.280 --> 02:03:56.760
james murez: Thank you.

1469
02:03:57.510 --> 02:03:57.930
Alley Bean: Go ahead.

1470
02:04:02.550 --> 02:04:03.840
Andrea Boccaletti: Oh yes, you can.

1471
02:04:05.430 --> 02:04:05.790
james murez: Yes.

1472
02:04:06.360 --> 02:04:07.230
james murez: But he's got a lot of.

1473
02:04:07.590 --> 02:04:07.890
Police.

1474
02:04:10.710 --> 02:04:14.640
james murez: Who is somebody's got a lot of noise talking.

1475
02:04:15.240 --> 02:04:16.080
um.

1476
02:04:18.270 --> 02:04:19.530
Andrea Boccaletti: yeah I mean I don't.

1477
02:04:20.550 --> 02:04:23.490
Andrea Boccaletti: I don't know I don't fully understand this motion, but.

1478
02:04:24.780 --> 02:04:25.980
Andrea Boccaletti: Just the way it's written but.

1479
02:04:27.540 --> 02:04:27.960
So.

1480
02:04:29.130 --> 02:04:29.490
that's it.

1481
02:04:32.640 --> 02:04:42.240
james murez: Okay let's take a roll call vote, Melissa I don't see any other hands and anybody else on the committee had their hand up no Okay, Melissa go ahead and take a vote.

1482
02:04:46.170 --> 02:04:46.710
melissa diner : Jim.

1483
02:04:46.890 --> 02:04:48.240
melissa diner : Yes, that's it oh.

1484
02:04:49.200 --> 02:04:50.760
melissa diner : Yes, yes olly.

1485
02:04:53.430 --> 02:04:53.970
melissa diner : olly.

1486
02:04:56.220 --> 02:04:56.730
melissa diner : olly.

1487
02:04:57.060 --> 02:04:58.470
Alley Bean: So i'm sorry I was muted yes.

1488
02:04:58.470 --> 02:04:59.280
melissa diner : Oh colletti.

1489
02:05:01.860 --> 02:05:02.460
melissa diner : abstain.

1490
02:05:03.240 --> 02:05:03.630
Yes.

1491
02:05:05.400 --> 02:05:06.450
melissa diner : And NICO.

1492
02:05:07.500 --> 02:05:08.850
Nico Ruderman: Yes, thank you.

1493
02:05:11.910 --> 02:05:11.970
For.

1494
02:05:13.260 --> 02:05:13.800
melissa diner : Coming on.

1495
02:05:15.540 --> 02:05:16.110
james murez: Sorry.

1496
02:05:16.590 --> 02:05:17.100
melissa diner : Moving on.

1497
02:05:17.670 --> 02:05:19.050
james murez: Oh, did you get a vote okay.

1498
02:05:19.290 --> 02:05:21.390
james murez: yeah i'm.

1499
02:05:23.940 --> 02:05:25.830
james murez: washing the same councilman bonnen.

1500
02:05:27.690 --> 02:05:40.920
james murez: I guess that should be capitalized we'll worry about that later premium homeless and candidates per city ordinance it's translated rehousing So this was a motion, it was submitted by an individual.

1501
02:05:42.090 --> 02:05:42.690
james murez: um.

1502
02:05:45.450 --> 02:05:47.520
james murez: It has not gone through committee.

1503
02:05:48.900 --> 02:05:57.660
james murez: let's get it on the floor and then we can talk about it but i'm not sure even had we do this daffodil do you want to.

1504
02:05:58.860 --> 02:05:59.640
james murez: chime in here.

1505
02:06:00.780 --> 02:06:01.230
james murez: Before.

1506
02:06:01.320 --> 02:06:02.310
Ivan: It on the fly before.

1507
02:06:02.880 --> 02:06:04.200
Daffodil Tyminski: Well yeah so.

1508
02:06:04.800 --> 02:06:06.090
Daffodil Tyminski: Writing first what's.

1509
02:06:06.330 --> 02:06:06.900
james murez: Your go ahead.

1510
02:06:08.070 --> 02:06:09.690
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I think first we have to make the motion.

1511
02:06:11.250 --> 02:06:11.910
Daffodil Tyminski: So.

1512
02:06:13.140 --> 02:06:16.170
Daffodil Tyminski: The motion is to place this on the board agenda.

1513
02:06:16.680 --> 02:06:17.310
Right.

1514
02:06:18.360 --> 02:06:20.430
james murez: So we want to make the motion.

1515
02:06:21.180 --> 02:06:21.540
Daffodil Tyminski: On today.

1516
02:06:22.980 --> 02:06:25.080
james murez: Okay does somebody want a second emotion.

1517
02:06:27.360 --> 02:06:30.060
Daffodil Tyminski: I put either Andre or I is the first and second.

1518
02:06:30.960 --> 02:06:42.690
Daffodil Tyminski: I think we're October each other the background here is that Clark wanted to raise this issue and bring it before the board at the time the homeless Committee was just being formed.

1519
02:06:44.610 --> 02:06:51.330
Daffodil Tyminski: And so, he thought let's bring it right to the board, since there is no Committee, which is in some senses make sense.

1520
02:06:52.560 --> 02:07:00.330
Daffodil Tyminski: But frank actually the of the committee was formed frank just hadn't had a meeting, yet I spoke with frank he's willing to take it up at the meeting.

1521
02:07:02.010 --> 02:07:13.020
Daffodil Tyminski: it's obviously an important issue, but I think it's a big issue and to be vetted the first time at the board meeting is going to be problematic if there wasn't a committee, I would support it, but.

1522
02:07:14.160 --> 02:07:21.930
Daffodil Tyminski: I said, you know, we should think about sending this to the homeless committee and frank confirm that they would take it and you would have a meeting soon.

1523
02:07:22.560 --> 02:07:24.240
Daffodil Tyminski: So that's kind of the background on it.

1524
02:07:25.530 --> 02:07:39.150
Daffodil Tyminski: If you read the motion essentially what he's asking for is that the local laws be enforced and that is safe camping are not safe camping but a housing area be set up at land your la X.

1525
02:07:40.320 --> 02:07:41.040
Daffodil Tyminski: This has been.

1526
02:07:42.900 --> 02:07:53.880
Daffodil Tyminski: suggested by folks in the past, the Council offices consistently said that they can't use landed lx because of FAA rules um it's a longer story there but.

1527
02:07:54.930 --> 02:07:57.600
Daffodil Tyminski: that's essentially what this is so.

1528
02:07:57.840 --> 02:08:03.660
james murez: um I think we just need to send it to committee at this point Ivan what do we do to take it all.

1529
02:08:03.750 --> 02:08:10.500
Ivan: You can just make another motion to refer it to wherever you want to go to.

1530
02:08:11.250 --> 02:08:16.950
melissa diner : or Andrea and daffodil can just say they want their motion to be to refer it to the homeless committee.

1531
02:08:18.120 --> 02:08:18.720
Ivan: probably be.

1532
02:08:20.820 --> 02:08:24.030
james murez: One of you guys make a motion to refer this to the homeless Committee, please.

1533
02:08:25.470 --> 02:08:27.600
Daffodil Tyminski: I will make the motion to refer to the homeless committee.

1534
02:08:27.840 --> 02:08:29.580
james murez: And can I get a second from somebody.

1535
02:08:31.380 --> 02:08:31.860
james murez: hey.

1536
02:08:32.250 --> 02:08:33.510
james murez: Can we take a quick about.

1537
02:08:34.500 --> 02:08:37.230
melissa diner : It did you do public comment, do we need to do that.

1538
02:08:37.290 --> 02:08:40.230
james murez: I don't know do we have any hands up about sending this to the.

1539
02:08:40.950 --> 02:08:41.550
james murez: Let me look.

1540
02:08:43.350 --> 02:08:44.880
james murez: There are no hands up no.

1541
02:08:45.030 --> 02:08:47.400
james murez: Public mentors close, thank you for reminding me.

1542
02:08:48.060 --> 02:08:50.160
melissa diner : or comment we're good go to about.

1543
02:08:50.760 --> 02:08:52.620
james murez: park brown just raised his hand.

1544
02:08:53.310 --> 02:08:54.300
melissa diner : You closed public.

1545
02:08:54.930 --> 02:08:57.930
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm going to give him the opportunity is clark's motion I would.

1546
02:08:58.140 --> 02:08:59.910
Daffodil Tyminski: I would probably let him speak.

1547
02:09:00.000 --> 02:09:07.320
james murez: yeah Well he raised his hand and he lowered it now it's back up again Clark you gotta sit still I can't grab me I can't allow you to talk unless you sit still.

1548
02:09:08.850 --> 02:09:10.500
james murez: Okay Clark go ahead, you have the floor.

1549
02:09:13.740 --> 02:09:14.880
james murez: Park, you need to speak.

1550
02:09:17.850 --> 02:09:19.410
Andrea Boccaletti: clerk you have to unmute yourself.

1551
02:09:20.040 --> 02:09:21.960
james murez: i've tried out a meeting in three times now.

1552
02:09:22.290 --> 02:09:23.520
clark brown: Okay, can you hear me now.

1553
02:09:23.580 --> 02:09:24.870
james murez: Yes, all right.

1554
02:09:25.560 --> 02:09:38.040
clark brown: I discussed this with frank, this morning, and he said he had no objection to the board considering this and I confirm that, with an email and I sent copies of the email to both frank and Melissa.

1555
02:09:39.570 --> 02:09:40.050
clark brown: This.

1556
02:09:41.310 --> 02:09:59.550
clark brown: This motion calls for the board to authorize the President to send this memo to bond and it's a six page memo supported by eight exhibits about 50 pages of of exhibits and I think there's an urgent need for this.

1557
02:10:00.900 --> 02:10:09.000
clark brown: You know the last last couple days we've had two major incidents, with the rv is one at Westminster school in the other a.

1558
02:10:10.080 --> 02:10:20.160
clark brown: Fire that started at Lincoln and in rows and every day that we don't take care of these are bs and that we continue to have these experiments to see.

1559
02:10:20.370 --> 02:10:20.910
it's a threat.

1560
02:10:22.200 --> 02:10:34.980
clark brown: This memo is different than other things have been before the the board, it sets forth the detailed in a comprehensive strategy for dealing with these encampments and with the.

1561
02:10:36.180 --> 02:10:53.220
clark brown: With the rv that identifies five streets, where there are in cabins and arby's that identifies the four ordinances which empower the city to take care of these encampments in the rv is that identifies 9600 beds, which the mayor's office as.

1562
02:10:55.380 --> 02:11:03.300
clark brown: The Federal Court are available to take care of homeless people with bond and says about the FAA not allowing these.

1563
02:11:04.650 --> 02:11:07.560
clark brown: These encampments on to have its parcels is simply not.

1564
02:11:07.560 --> 02:11:08.070
Accurate.

1565
02:11:11.190 --> 02:11:21.420
clark brown: On abandons office on the mayor's office and on and on lx Los Angeles world airways, and the response show that there are no Doc.

1566
02:11:23.520 --> 02:11:44.940
clark brown: bar the city from using these two lakhs parcels for homeless, housing and in fact there's a letter from the executive director Chief Executive Officer of law was asking me if he if he has any objection whatsoever to the city using these two parcels over le X for almost.

1567
02:11:45.960 --> 02:11:53.100
james murez: Take Clark bars, we heard you were planning on sending this back committee that's the motion that's on the floor.

1568
02:11:54.420 --> 02:11:57.810
james murez: I gave you a chance to speak at this point we're going to send it back to committee.

1569
02:11:58.500 --> 02:12:04.290
james murez: And, and we don't need to go on about it tonight because we can't talk about the content of the motion.

1570
02:12:04.770 --> 02:12:13.920
james murez: In this Community this committee only here whether or not put the item on the agenda or not we've already made a motion to knock with the item on the agenda, but to send it back to Community so thank you.

1571
02:12:14.700 --> 02:12:19.080
melissa diner : Jim are you unilaterally doing that or am I taking a low, whichever way you want you're.

1572
02:12:19.440 --> 02:12:20.970
james murez: Taking a boat at this point.

1573
02:12:20.970 --> 02:12:22.710
melissa diner : From the great Jim.

1574
02:12:23.040 --> 02:12:26.190
Andrea Boccaletti: A public comment, this time it says no afford to comment.

1575
02:12:26.670 --> 02:12:30.600
james murez: Oh, if you want to have more we can have more common sure go ahead Andre.

1576
02:12:31.110 --> 02:12:32.280
Andrea Boccaletti: Well, he has their hand raised.

1577
02:12:34.200 --> 02:12:34.650
james murez: First.

1578
02:12:35.910 --> 02:12:36.450
james murez: Now he goes.

1579
02:12:37.380 --> 02:12:41.700
james murez: All the screen sharing I don't get to see all this stuff I apologize to all of you people.

1580
02:12:42.450 --> 02:12:47.370
Alley Bean: So we can't take a vote as to let this to go on to the board.

1581
02:12:48.990 --> 02:12:53.190
james murez: Well, right now, we have a motion on the floor to send it back to committee.

1582
02:12:56.010 --> 02:12:56.940
Alley Bean: send an email today.

1583
02:12:57.960 --> 02:12:59.400
james murez: Then, had a meeting yet.

1584
02:12:59.520 --> 02:13:01.290
james murez: The committee didn't say anything.

1585
02:13:01.500 --> 02:13:09.870
Alley Bean: No, but he just said that frank send an email to the board today saying that he wanted it to go on the board.

1586
02:13:10.080 --> 02:13:14.520
james murez: Well, he didn't say he wanted, he said he didn't object to going to the going to the board.

1587
02:13:15.090 --> 02:13:19.530
james murez: He doesn't affect you, but the committee has not yet reviewed it don't get the words mixed up.

1588
02:13:21.000 --> 02:13:28.740
james murez: Okay there's a big difference between having a committee of people review something and having one person saying I don't mind if it happens.

1589
02:13:30.210 --> 02:13:32.370
james murez: there's a big difference their alley okay.

1590
02:13:35.460 --> 02:13:37.110
Andrea Boccaletti: Can I rescind my.

1591
02:13:38.430 --> 02:13:40.200
Andrea Boccaletti: Second, to have this go to committee.

1592
02:13:40.560 --> 02:13:41.070
james murez: backed up and.

1593
02:13:41.610 --> 02:13:42.900
james murez: You can you can withdraw that.

1594
02:13:43.680 --> 02:13:44.370
Andrea Boccaletti: Are with each other.

1595
02:13:45.210 --> 02:13:47.700
james murez: Okay, so who wouldn't who made the original motion.

1596
02:13:49.110 --> 02:13:49.530
Alley Bean: I think.

1597
02:13:50.040 --> 02:13:50.400
Jeff.

1598
02:13:51.570 --> 02:13:51.870
melissa diner : and

1599
02:13:53.040 --> 02:14:02.790
melissa diner : Andrea made the motion and daffodil second did it so if andrea's with the drawing then someone daffodil can make it and someone can choose to second it or not.

1600
02:14:04.320 --> 02:14:06.480
james murez: Okay, so definitely do you want to make the motion.

1601
02:14:07.470 --> 02:14:09.750
Daffodil Tyminski: I will make the motion, and then I have a comment.

1602
02:14:10.620 --> 02:14:13.200
james murez: And we have somebody that wants to second it.

1603
02:14:20.430 --> 02:14:22.620
melissa diner : fails, if you want it to fail, Jim.

1604
02:14:22.680 --> 02:14:25.200
james murez: you're hearing no second the motion fails.

1605
02:14:26.640 --> 02:14:31.380
james murez: So now we're back to do we want to send this thing to the board.

1606
02:14:33.240 --> 02:14:35.520
Andrea Boccaletti: I will make a motion to send it to the board on today.

1607
02:14:35.610 --> 02:14:39.060
james murez: No, we already we already didn't we Oh, we already had one to send it.

1608
02:14:40.020 --> 02:14:47.040
melissa diner : Now, now we need a motion to send it to the board, so if someone wants to make a new one and dre I made it who's sending it.

1609
02:14:47.640 --> 02:14:49.290
melissa diner : Le Thank you.

1610
02:14:52.830 --> 02:14:55.680
james murez: Okay um let's take public comment.

1611
02:14:56.820 --> 02:14:58.920
james murez: All you board members need to lower your hands.

1612
02:15:02.430 --> 02:15:05.790
james murez: Public comment we're opening public comment to send this to the board.

1613
02:15:08.520 --> 02:15:09.600
james murez: I see one hand.

1614
02:15:11.550 --> 02:15:12.900
james murez: I see two hands.

1615
02:15:16.440 --> 02:15:20.730
james murez: They still see two hands that's it okay closing public comment after Lisa redmond.

1616
02:15:22.800 --> 02:15:24.450
james murez: um Lisa go ahead.

1617
02:15:27.240 --> 02:15:27.870
james murez: oops sorry.

1618
02:15:29.040 --> 02:15:29.760
james murez: Lisa go ahead.

1619
02:15:30.090 --> 02:15:40.770
Lisa Redmond: yeah thanks um I really think that this is ridiculous that this is going straight to the board it's not formally put out so we can't see it here.

1620
02:15:42.090 --> 02:15:50.850
Lisa Redmond: And what is the purpose of having committees, if things are going straight to the board always, this is becoming i'm noticing now with this new board.

1621
02:15:51.180 --> 02:15:58.440
Lisa Redmond: This is happening more and more frequently when things go to the board public comment is only given 30 seconds or less.

1622
02:15:59.160 --> 02:16:18.660
Lisa Redmond: The whole opportunity, as stated in your whole agenda is for people to really discuss and feel things out and take advantage of the longer public comment time at committees which you aren't allowed to do at board meetings so i'm really going to urge you to not put this on the.

1623
02:16:20.130 --> 02:16:23.550
Lisa Redmond: On the board it and send it back to committee.

1624
02:16:23.670 --> 02:16:25.830
james murez: Thank you, thank you Lisa Helen go ahead.

1625
02:16:30.150 --> 02:16:31.500
james murez: Helen you have your hand up go ahead.

1626
02:16:38.460 --> 02:16:39.570
james murez: I think I may have just.

1627
02:16:40.410 --> 02:16:41.580
Now Helen do you want to.

1628
02:16:42.720 --> 02:16:44.970
james murez: Wait sorry that was me I muted you try again.

1629
02:16:46.950 --> 02:16:49.440
james murez: i'm still here Okay, there you go now you're on a.

1630
02:16:49.530 --> 02:16:50.190
Helen Fallon: part time.

1631
02:16:51.420 --> 02:16:57.900
Helen Fallon: yeah I I found this motion a little vague and then, when I hearing there's 59 pages of.

1632
02:16:58.680 --> 02:17:15.810
Helen Fallon: of recommendations or memos and supporting exhibits that seems like a very complicated thing to just have it go directly to the board without having had it reviewed and available to stakeholders, a little bit before three days before the board meeting.

1633
02:17:16.860 --> 02:17:17.430
It just.

1634
02:17:18.480 --> 02:17:21.540
Helen Fallon: doesn't quite make sense, this isn't very simple it's.

1635
02:17:23.040 --> 02:17:30.960
Helen Fallon: Not if it takes 59 pages, just because you are unmuted now, so I remind you, please, don't forget that the issue about the approval of the.

1636
02:17:32.010 --> 02:17:34.800
Helen Fallon: public safety committee needs to be added to the agenda.

1637
02:17:37.950 --> 02:17:38.370
Helen Fallon: Thank you.

1638
02:17:39.120 --> 02:17:43.320
james murez: Thank you well that's a good point you forgot that one Melissa did you get her last second point.

1639
02:17:44.700 --> 02:17:48.060
melissa diner : it's always added after it's added at icon so a lady.

1640
02:17:48.060 --> 02:17:48.630
james murez: Okay, so.

1641
02:17:48.690 --> 02:17:51.690
james murez: Public comment is closed, I had already forgotten it's just my.

1642
02:17:53.730 --> 02:17:59.940
james murez: unfamiliarity This is like a familiar okay daffodil you have your hand up go ahead.

1643
02:18:01.200 --> 02:18:11.580
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I mean look, this is a very important issue Clark is right, it is an urgent issue and all he is really asking for is that we send a letter to support.

1644
02:18:12.570 --> 02:18:26.580
Daffodil Tyminski: fontan looking at the but the issue with self is so large and unwieldy and we actually do have a committee with committee members that have expertise in these areas, so um.

1645
02:18:27.510 --> 02:18:43.590
Daffodil Tyminski: I you know I we know bond is not going to do this immediately right so just being trying to be very realistic and again trying to respect the fact that we have committees, and we have a process and we just seem to be all over the place, with us.

1646
02:18:45.360 --> 02:19:00.540
Daffodil Tyminski: So you know, obviously, the motion to refer to committee failed, I do think as a practical matter if this goes to on the board agenda, we need to really rethink what that agenda is going to look like, because this is going to take pretty much most of the meeting.

1647
02:19:03.150 --> 02:19:09.810
Daffodil Tyminski: And we've been in those meetings before So either we need to cut other stuff out or.

1648
02:19:11.220 --> 02:19:14.970
Daffodil Tyminski: extend the meeting you know plan on this is going to be a one to a meeting.

1649
02:19:17.790 --> 02:19:20.280
james murez: Thank you for your hand is up.

1650
02:19:24.630 --> 02:19:28.230
james murez: Melissa took her hand down Thank you so i'm going to make my.

1651
02:19:28.770 --> 02:19:30.000
melissa diner : I have my hand up, can I.

1652
02:19:30.000 --> 02:19:31.170
james murez: saw yeah go ahead.

1653
02:19:31.440 --> 02:19:40.620
melissa diner : Look, I know everybody's learning and trying to flex and all of these things but yeah it's just we we can't have these meetings continue to go this long.

1654
02:19:40.860 --> 02:19:50.370
melissa diner : This is actually the first ad call meeting i've been to in 10 years it's gone class 9pm ever and we're not even close to done yet, so I think this needs to.

1655
02:19:50.700 --> 02:20:06.870
melissa diner : This is where the President, I would like to step in and make executive decisions to send things to committee when we can't get it together quick enough at these meetings, I would ask you to just do that Jim because you can, and we could have done that, before we had all of these discussions.

1656
02:20:08.100 --> 02:20:09.330
melissa diner : and move on.

1657
02:20:09.420 --> 02:20:15.090
james murez: Thank you everyone so um yeah I need to ask the parliamentarian question i've been are you there.

1658
02:20:18.390 --> 02:20:19.320
james murez: i've been are you there.

1659
02:20:23.970 --> 02:20:26.760
james murez: Are you muted raise your hand if you're muted.

1660
02:20:28.140 --> 02:20:28.980
james murez: Are you asleep.

1661
02:20:29.100 --> 02:20:29.610
Ivan: i'm here.

1662
02:20:29.880 --> 02:20:30.570
james murez: Oh, thank you.

1663
02:20:30.630 --> 02:20:33.030
james murez: i'm here, thank you, I haven't um.

1664
02:20:33.120 --> 02:20:34.530
james murez: So my question.

1665
02:20:36.270 --> 02:20:50.190
james murez: Thank you Mike my question to you, we have a motion on the floor to put this on to the Boards agenda, Melissa believes that I have the executive ability to be able to.

1666
02:20:51.780 --> 02:20:58.170
james murez: send this to committee and not continue this particular item Is that correct or incorrect.

1667
02:20:58.170 --> 02:21:09.450
Ivan: Okay, almost yes, you have that authority, but you need to do it before the meeting before it goes on an orange when the agenda comes in, you set the agenda.

1668
02:21:09.780 --> 02:21:16.560
Ivan: Okay, at that point, you can you know you have the authority to refer to a committee on your own.

1669
02:21:16.950 --> 02:21:17.400
Ivan: Okay.

1670
02:21:17.730 --> 02:21:18.750
james murez: But why can't run.

1671
02:21:18.750 --> 02:21:18.840
The.

1672
02:21:20.370 --> 02:21:23.490
Ivan: emotion here, no you shouldn't do it, you can override the committee.

1673
02:21:23.790 --> 02:21:25.590
james murez: Okay, that that was.

1674
02:21:25.920 --> 02:21:27.930
james murez: Clear yeah that's clear, thank you for.

1675
02:21:27.960 --> 02:21:38.310
james murez: For Claire Okay, I wanted to make sure I get that right, all right, well, I just want to make it very clear, I am not at all in support of sending this thing to the board, I think, Melissa is absolutely correct.

1676
02:21:38.730 --> 02:21:53.250
james murez: And I really think that we need to utilize our committees, the idea of giving people 30 seconds, or even a minute to speak on this item 50 however many pages, it is if somebody wants to speak on each page that's an hour alone.

1677
02:21:53.760 --> 02:22:03.870
james murez: I mean it's ridiculous we can't take items like this onto the agenda of the Board and actually think we're going to get out before three or four o'clock in the morning, I am so opposed to this, I don't know how to.

1678
02:22:04.200 --> 02:22:09.990
james murez: express it strongly enough, this is a mistake to put on the boards agenda, Melissa take a vote.

1679
02:22:10.590 --> 02:22:11.130
melissa diner : i'm.

1680
02:22:11.220 --> 02:22:13.620
Alley Bean: going to withdraw my motion it.

1681
02:22:13.710 --> 02:22:18.030
james murez: So I think we're going to either both this up or down yeah.

1682
02:22:18.060 --> 02:22:24.180
Alley Bean: let's show the motive willing to withdraw the motion to even have it so that it doesn't happen.

1683
02:22:25.560 --> 02:22:26.040
james murez: um.

1684
02:22:27.090 --> 02:22:27.990
melissa diner : I would just vote.

1685
02:22:28.440 --> 02:22:30.660
melissa diner : When you're with your withdrawal Ali.

1686
02:22:31.590 --> 02:22:33.570
Ivan: What he already called for a vote.

1687
02:22:33.690 --> 02:22:38.700
Ivan: You can get on with crossings have nobody does anything after you call for vote.

1688
02:22:39.240 --> 02:22:41.070
melissa diner : Thank you Ivan Jim.

1689
02:22:44.550 --> 02:22:45.120
james murez: No.

1690
02:22:47.070 --> 02:22:47.640
melissa diner : After, though.

1691
02:22:52.260 --> 02:22:52.920
melissa diner : acid oh.

1692
02:22:56.490 --> 02:22:57.210
melissa diner : She here.

1693
02:22:57.390 --> 02:22:59.880
james murez: she's here her hand is up I don't know what that means.

1694
02:23:00.030 --> 02:23:01.260
melissa diner : Okay, I vote no.

1695
02:23:01.650 --> 02:23:05.880
Daffodil Tyminski: No, sorry sorry I was trying to unmute I couldn't get it to unmute now.

1696
02:23:05.940 --> 02:23:09.360
melissa diner : No problem I don't know Ali.

1697
02:23:09.660 --> 02:23:13.800
melissa diner : No, thank you and Andrea.

1698
02:23:14.100 --> 02:23:14.820
Yes.

1699
02:23:16.080 --> 02:23:17.070
melissa diner : And NICO.

1700
02:23:18.300 --> 02:23:18.840
Nico Ruderman: i'm saying.

1701
02:23:19.500 --> 02:23:20.010
melissa diner : Thank you.

1702
02:23:22.980 --> 02:23:24.900
james murez: To the motion does not carry now what.

1703
02:23:25.440 --> 02:23:26.490
melissa diner : It does carry.

1704
02:23:26.790 --> 02:23:28.770
melissa diner : Over no it doesn't carry sorry it doesn't go in.

1705
02:23:29.130 --> 02:23:30.480
james murez: The ocean was no yes.

1706
02:23:30.540 --> 02:23:31.110
melissa diner : Thank you.

1707
02:23:31.410 --> 02:23:33.900
james murez: Now, what happens if the motion does not carry.

1708
02:23:34.290 --> 02:23:34.890
For done.

1709
02:23:39.150 --> 02:23:39.420
melissa diner : well.

1710
02:23:41.250 --> 02:23:41.700
james murez: We have.

1711
02:23:43.170 --> 02:23:46.500
james murez: Do we have to do anything, or will it just automatically fall back.

1712
02:23:46.500 --> 02:23:46.920
Ivan: You don't.

1713
02:23:48.000 --> 02:23:48.210
Ivan: If.

1714
02:23:48.750 --> 02:23:51.540
Ivan: You don't do anything, it will just go away.

1715
02:23:52.200 --> 02:23:53.850
Ivan: And it will be up to you.

1716
02:23:56.670 --> 02:23:59.220
Ivan: And you know and submitted.

1717
02:23:59.820 --> 02:24:03.750
Ivan: Right it'll be up to the committee motion is dead right but.

1718
02:24:03.990 --> 02:24:05.070
melissa diner : Jim can refer it.

1719
02:24:05.130 --> 02:24:05.880
As a committee.

1720
02:24:07.770 --> 02:24:12.120
Ivan: hang on hang on, let me, let me finish here alright, if you want.

1721
02:24:13.200 --> 02:24:19.440
Ivan: You do have an option to reconsider the motion to send it to committee.

1722
02:24:21.930 --> 02:24:23.520
Ivan: that's up to you, somebody would have to.

1723
02:24:24.390 --> 02:24:25.200
james murez: say nothing.

1724
02:24:26.760 --> 02:24:28.830
james murez: If we say nothing, it will go back to.

1725
02:24:30.540 --> 02:24:33.540
Ivan: I think if you say nothing, nothing happens.

1726
02:24:33.630 --> 02:24:34.410
Daffodil Tyminski: Nothing hey.

1727
02:24:35.550 --> 02:24:35.820
james murez: Take.

1728
02:24:37.050 --> 02:24:39.030
james murez: It on park Clark will take it to committee.

1729
02:24:41.550 --> 02:24:54.540
Daffodil Tyminski: i've already spoken to frank, he will take it, I will work with Clark and frank, to make sure that they take it and it gets done expeditiously Thank you so as a practical matter again I don't we don't have to make the motion here, it will work it out we'll.

1730
02:24:54.630 --> 02:24:55.980
Daffodil Tyminski: We all agree, it should be addressed.

1731
02:24:56.040 --> 02:25:09.960
james murez: Just the mechanics okay this next 112 G was never heard in committee, and it was actually sent to rules and selections it was put on to the Boards agenda in error, so I just scratched it off before the meeting.

1732
02:25:11.490 --> 02:25:16.170
james murez: That was my executive power yeah I got one right okay um.

1733
02:25:16.320 --> 02:25:18.510
melissa diner : You wrote bring it back to committee right.

1734
02:25:20.460 --> 02:25:27.870
james murez: it's still on the committee it was never heard in committee, it was put on to our agenda by the Secretary in error.

1735
02:25:28.320 --> 02:25:32.550
melissa diner : it's been going to rules and selections at your directive correct.

1736
02:25:32.640 --> 02:25:42.540
james murez: It already is in rules and selections it was already on rules and selections agenda They ran out of time, and it will be heard at their next meeting great.

1737
02:25:44.700 --> 02:25:48.030
james murez: i'm not doing any redirecting i'm just saying it's not here okay.

1738
02:25:49.530 --> 02:25:52.170
james murez: motion to read.

1739
02:25:53.310 --> 02:25:58.890
james murez: Renewed upkeep of grassy areas along ocean print walk can I get a motion to.

1740
02:26:01.590 --> 02:26:02.400
Andrea Boccaletti: Make that motion.

1741
02:26:02.970 --> 02:26:06.930
melissa diner : And I guys wait wait Jim before you do that can we take any of these.

1742
02:26:06.930 --> 02:26:09.150
james murez: Together I think we probably can.

1743
02:26:09.180 --> 02:26:10.560
james murez: The next one is.

1744
02:26:10.620 --> 02:26:16.110
james murez: 12 I, which is a permanent ranger in the park.

1745
02:26:17.220 --> 02:26:20.220
james murez: Next, one is the right of entry to the.

1746
02:26:20.820 --> 02:26:22.350
james murez: Art by Jesse.

1747
02:26:23.400 --> 02:26:26.430
james murez: And that would be the last one so let's take these three together.

1748
02:26:27.450 --> 02:26:31.020
james murez: 12 he 12 I and 12 Jay.

1749
02:26:32.940 --> 02:26:34.380
james murez: Can I get a motion for all three of them.

1750
02:26:37.710 --> 02:26:39.300
Alley Bean: make them ocean alley.

1751
02:26:39.540 --> 02:26:40.440
james murez: Thank you ellie.

1752
02:26:40.500 --> 02:26:43.020
Daffodil Tyminski: Can I get a second a second and i'll say.

1753
02:26:43.500 --> 02:26:52.050
james murez: Thank you, though, um let's take public comment, let me get my little thing out here, I see a couple of hands are raised.

1754
02:26:53.430 --> 02:26:59.820
james murez: I see three hands are the same three hands are always race it's amazing okay Lisa go ahead, you got the floor.

1755
02:27:01.470 --> 02:27:09.750
Lisa Redmond: Thank you, the same three people that attend add calm meetings I hope someone amends the motion that all three of those motions.

1756
02:27:09.810 --> 02:27:11.550
Lisa Redmond: Go to consent calendar.

1757
02:27:12.420 --> 02:27:14.340
Lisa Redmond: So we aren't there till three in the morning.

1758
02:27:14.790 --> 02:27:18.330
james murez: Oh let's just take a quick peek yeah 6000.

1759
02:27:18.990 --> 02:27:19.560
james murez: Okay, thank you.

1760
02:27:21.660 --> 02:27:22.200
james murez: Helen.

1761
02:27:23.670 --> 02:27:24.180
james murez: You have the.

1762
02:27:24.330 --> 02:27:25.950
Helen Fallon: Word did out to Lisa.

1763
02:27:26.370 --> 02:27:29.880
james murez: Thank you, but what will be done soon Erica.

1764
02:27:32.010 --> 02:27:33.210
Erica Moore: let's make it three.

1765
02:27:33.690 --> 02:27:34.530
wow.

1766
02:27:37.170 --> 02:27:46.170
james murez: You know I have this cute little sculpture that's like the three blind that what is it the three monkeys one has no fear, no evil, see no evil, hear no honey, however, there.

1767
02:27:47.190 --> 02:27:50.220
Erica Moore: Are the Three Musketeers okay we're not we're not monkeys.

1768
02:27:50.580 --> 02:27:52.230
james murez: don't go there jail okay.

1769
02:27:53.610 --> 02:27:56.280
james murez: How about charlie's angels but let's.

1770
02:27:58.530 --> 02:28:04.800
james murez: Wait what Okay, so we have two hands up from the committee members, the public comment is closed.

1771
02:28:05.880 --> 02:28:06.690
james murez: davidow go ahead.

1772
02:28:09.780 --> 02:28:12.540
Daffodil Tyminski: I think it sounds a great idea, thank you for.

1773
02:28:13.410 --> 02:28:14.340
james murez: Andre go ahead.

1774
02:28:15.450 --> 02:28:19.080
Andrea Boccaletti: I concur, and I would make that motion that they could.

1775
02:28:20.370 --> 02:28:21.060
Andrea Boccaletti: Go to consent.

1776
02:28:21.360 --> 02:28:22.260
james murez: Okay, thank you.

1777
02:28:25.140 --> 02:28:33.180
james murez: um let's amend the motion than to say that these three items are going to consent, do I have any problem without anybody.

1778
02:28:33.450 --> 02:28:34.230
Alley Bean: i'll second it.

1779
02:28:35.220 --> 02:28:37.890
james murez: Thank you okay I well I didn't make the motion but i'm.

1780
02:28:37.920 --> 02:28:47.760
melissa diner : Just a yeah Ali if you'll just have your original motion and daffodil will have it be to consent and we're good to go and we can do a roll call vote, unless anyone else has something to say.

1781
02:28:48.780 --> 02:28:51.570
james murez: everybody's good with that okay let's take a look.

1782
02:28:51.750 --> 02:28:53.220
james murez: Jim yes.

1783
02:28:53.550 --> 02:28:55.260
Daffodil Tyminski: daffodil yes.

1784
02:28:55.650 --> 02:28:56.490
Andrea.

1785
02:28:57.810 --> 02:28:58.410
melissa diner : Ali.

1786
02:28:58.620 --> 02:28:59.010
Yes.

1787
02:29:00.690 --> 02:29:02.310
melissa diner : I vote yes NICO.

1788
02:29:06.330 --> 02:29:06.990
melissa diner : NICO.

1789
02:29:12.030 --> 02:29:12.660
melissa diner : NICO.

1790
02:29:12.750 --> 02:29:13.920
james murez: NICO you need to unmute.

1791
02:29:15.390 --> 02:29:16.260
Nico Ruderman: Sorry, yes.

1792
02:29:16.620 --> 02:29:22.560
melissa diner : Thanks and then now let's not forget that we still have to go back to a leaks as item, but I think we skipped.

1793
02:29:26.820 --> 02:29:29.070
Ivan: and I are sitting in here at the end.

1794
02:29:29.250 --> 02:29:30.000
james murez: yeah what.

1795
02:29:32.310 --> 02:29:33.360
james murez: Something at the end.

1796
02:29:33.570 --> 02:29:33.930
Okay.

1797
02:29:35.040 --> 02:29:36.450
Ivan: There are people who don't know who.

1798
02:29:38.640 --> 02:29:39.930
james murez: you're breaking up so yeah.

1799
02:29:40.020 --> 02:29:56.700
Ivan: There were people who don't know who Jesse Martinez, and I said, there should be a note, or something you're explaining this or somebody who's just going to pull it to find out to defeat the consent calendar thing you're i'm saying we might want to create.

1800
02:29:58.140 --> 02:30:07.440
melissa diner : Could we could is there, I don't know who he is either, but is this something you want to add to calling our meeting to order I don't know who he is or go.

1801
02:30:07.500 --> 02:30:14.550
Ivan: Go back to Jim rob and asked him if he can you know put into Denver men explaining what's going on here.

1802
02:30:14.730 --> 02:30:15.960
melissa diner : yeah okay.

1803
02:30:16.020 --> 02:30:17.130
Ivan: or he could also make an.

1804
02:30:17.130 --> 02:30:18.300
melissa diner : Announcement under.

1805
02:30:18.300 --> 02:30:20.700
melissa diner : ocean front walk meeting or whatever, but i'll.

1806
02:30:20.700 --> 02:30:21.240
Ivan: make him out.

1807
02:30:21.300 --> 02:30:21.720
He could.

1808
02:30:22.890 --> 02:30:25.890
Ivan: You know i'm saying somebody will pull it because they don't know.

1809
02:30:26.340 --> 02:30:27.540
james murez: But point, thank you.

1810
02:30:27.900 --> 02:30:28.290
Okay.

1811
02:30:29.490 --> 02:30:38.820
james murez: noted i'm okay we're going back up Melissa you seem to think that there's a loop pack item.

1812
02:30:38.940 --> 02:30:44.160
melissa diner : I thought we skipped the last item of loop back and we didn't decide, but maybe.

1813
02:30:44.160 --> 02:30:49.110
james murez: That was just 10 that was this 10 D and we put it on the.

1814
02:30:49.350 --> 02:30:51.510
melissa diner : Okay, good and we're good nevermind.

1815
02:30:51.630 --> 02:30:59.400
james murez: It was part of the consent calendar, because they had a 500 I mean they do show the vote is 500.

1816
02:30:59.610 --> 02:31:04.500
melissa diner : Okay, now, many of you for a moment just real quick we used to do this in our old meetings.

1817
02:31:04.770 --> 02:31:19.230
melissa diner : We used to like go through and see if there was anything else, we wanted to add to consent or cut, because if the meeting is going to go too long, so like do we have any idea like where we're at time wise and how long this stuff's gonna take.

1818
02:31:19.530 --> 02:31:20.580
james murez: No idea.

1819
02:31:20.760 --> 02:31:22.170
melissa diner : Well, I think that you're.

1820
02:31:22.500 --> 02:31:34.230
james murez: Like, I would like to point out, and I don't know that anybody, other than myself noticed it um when I created the zoom link I took into account that the last meeting ran too late.

1821
02:31:35.070 --> 02:31:49.140
james murez: And I reduce the time when we're going to start from seven o'clock to six o'clock so we can get out by 11 o'clock because last time we got out at midnight and hopefully six o'clock will be early enough that we can get out by 11 because after 11 I think everybody gets too tired.

1822
02:31:49.740 --> 02:31:53.910
melissa diner : And then, are you making a hard call that then you're going to call the meeting at 11.

1823
02:31:54.690 --> 02:31:56.430
james murez: I think if I do that.

1824
02:31:58.470 --> 02:32:11.340
james murez: We would need to publish that at the end of the meeting, and I would be okay doing that, we would have to put that down here someplace i've seen that done on other committees and boards before.

1825
02:32:12.270 --> 02:32:23.100
james murez: yeah it says 11 so it's seven saying approximately let's let's just take out the word approximately and say that this is going to be a hard end 11pm is going to be our heart and.

1826
02:32:25.320 --> 02:32:26.880
james murez: We could say honor before.

1827
02:32:28.020 --> 02:32:29.310
james murez: If we want to be nice about it.

1828
02:32:31.050 --> 02:32:31.560
james murez: Okay.

1829
02:32:34.560 --> 02:32:39.990
Ivan: Move, it should be sure you go back to the top and change the time to set.

1830
02:32:41.970 --> 02:32:42.180
Ivan: The.

1831
02:32:42.810 --> 02:32:45.690
james murez: Agenda, it has it in the zoom link it doesn't have it.

1832
02:32:45.720 --> 02:32:46.710
In the announcement.

1833
02:32:47.760 --> 02:32:48.150
Ivan: And you.

1834
02:32:53.310 --> 02:32:58.830
Daffodil Tyminski: know, as I say, we also should make sure that seem it does some outreach and people know that the time changes.

1835
02:32:59.460 --> 02:33:04.620
Ivan: To the board, you need to send an email to born, you know letting them know don't.

1836
02:33:05.670 --> 02:33:06.060
Ivan: See.

1837
02:33:25.440 --> 02:33:27.030
melissa diner : Okay you're turning the meeting.

1838
02:33:27.510 --> 02:33:30.960
Ivan: No, no yeah the boat the boat.

1839
02:33:31.230 --> 02:33:32.730
james murez: I said, you know I said.

1840
02:33:32.730 --> 02:33:33.930
james murez: No i've been just really.

1841
02:33:34.950 --> 02:33:37.020
james murez: I was just making a note for me not to forget.

1842
02:33:37.200 --> 02:33:37.650
Okay.

1843
02:33:38.760 --> 02:33:47.130
james murez: um okay so we're here on item six consideration of approval of October 19 draft board agenda.

1844
02:33:49.170 --> 02:33:53.790
james murez: We had a we have a motion and a second already or do we need what I don't remember how.

1845
02:33:54.060 --> 02:33:55.890
melissa diner : We don't have a motion and a second.

1846
02:33:55.980 --> 02:33:57.330
james murez: Okay, so I need a motion.

1847
02:33:59.010 --> 02:34:03.840
james murez: Somebody want to make the motion for number six that was all the work we just did in the last three hours.

1848
02:34:04.500 --> 02:34:06.570
Daffodil Tyminski: To emotion and staff at all.

1849
02:34:06.810 --> 02:34:07.650
Andrea Boccaletti: They are.

1850
02:34:08.640 --> 02:34:09.570
james murez: Andre seconded.

1851
02:34:13.980 --> 02:34:16.890
james murez: um do we have any public comment on this item.

1852
02:34:19.260 --> 02:34:22.950
james murez: I see one hand raised Lisa redmond go ahead.

1853
02:34:25.830 --> 02:34:27.690
james murez: Lisa redmond hand went down, thank you.

1854
02:34:28.350 --> 02:34:34.920
Lisa Redmond: let's go regarding regarding the time of having a hard cut off at 11 o'clock.

1855
02:34:36.750 --> 02:34:41.250
Lisa Redmond: i'm not i'm not an expert at robert's rules but i'm not sure that you can do that.

1856
02:34:42.000 --> 02:34:57.270
Lisa Redmond: But what I would recommend is you talk to some of your friends that are close with rules and selections committee and create a an amendment to our bylaws that says that and that's how most neighborhood Councils have that within their bylaws.

1857
02:34:58.440 --> 02:35:04.890
Lisa Redmond: And then maybe if there's a special issue then they'll vote to extend the meeting by half an hour or whatever, but um it's.

1858
02:35:05.010 --> 02:35:07.770
Lisa Redmond: Definitely don't think you can pick and choose.

1859
02:35:08.040 --> 02:35:12.180
Lisa Redmond: When you want to close it without it, you know being as part of the rules.

1860
02:35:12.270 --> 02:35:12.990
james murez: Okay well.

1861
02:35:13.140 --> 02:35:14.370
Lisa Redmond: i'm just putting that out there.

1862
02:35:14.820 --> 02:35:26.700
james murez: All right, we'll check with the parliamentarian, but I believe that we can just have a hard ending the way it the way that the robert's rules treats today, thank you for your comment um let's go back to board comment any board comment.

1863
02:35:28.590 --> 02:35:31.440
james murez: Andre you have your hand up value of your hand up Andre you go first.

1864
02:35:31.710 --> 02:35:37.170
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, i'm just going to make suggestion for one we have the board meeting that were diligent with.

1865
02:35:38.130 --> 02:35:52.260
Andrea Boccaletti: muting people's mike's when they need right away, after they've given their public comment and to stop the speaking out of turn really need to cut that and let the President run the meeting, thank you.

1866
02:35:53.580 --> 02:35:55.620
james murez: Thank you Sally go ahead, please.

1867
02:35:56.550 --> 02:36:00.210
Alley Bean: um I just was wondering oh I don't know why my video turned off.

1868
02:36:01.290 --> 02:36:10.140
Alley Bean: If I know that i've been said that we're not allowed to have made the changes in the few things to clarify what what you'd written Jim but if.

1869
02:36:10.620 --> 02:36:19.440
Alley Bean: Is there any way that be before the item is discussed, you could reward it for people so that there's less conversation about it, I think.

1870
02:36:20.010 --> 02:36:37.530
Alley Bean: will stimulate a lot less conversation if those things are allowed to be amended, I don't know how what the rules are Ivan but I know we use it we can't do it now, but maybe if Jim could say that, before the public discussion, it would make everybody less talkative.

1871
02:36:38.010 --> 02:36:47.790
james murez: duly noted, I will try and do that I will talk to Ivan after the meeting to find out exactly what the procedure is for that I know that it can be done and we'll figure it out, thank you.

1872
02:36:48.600 --> 02:36:49.920
james murez: Melissa you have your hand up to.

1873
02:36:52.500 --> 02:37:08.310
melissa diner : yeah I mean I just I guess at the beginning of the meeting, if we want to make any amendments, the agenda that's the way we've most swiftly done it at the beginning, if there's just sink way to make things more clear quickly but that's somewhat hard sometimes when you're dealing.

1874
02:37:08.310 --> 02:37:14.220
melissa diner : With complex issues that people don't understand and then the other thing is just like.

1875
02:37:14.640 --> 02:37:22.860
melissa diner : We have all new board people we let a lot of like the new board people talk and figure it out, which takes time.

1876
02:37:23.190 --> 02:37:32.220
melissa diner : And so you know I don't want to be saying things and like i'll gladly not say anything but a lot of the things i'm interjecting ours, because I feel like.

1877
02:37:32.550 --> 02:37:40.200
melissa diner : People that know tons more than me about the law and many other things are so learning how to run these meetings so.

1878
02:37:41.160 --> 02:37:50.820
melissa diner : You know, Jim I think you have to like step up more and use your executive authority and keep things moving I know you're trying to be nice, but like.

1879
02:37:51.180 --> 02:38:00.390
melissa diner : it's not helping us get the meeting done quicker so like I encourage you to do that, and then I, and no one else have to have discussion.

1880
02:38:00.780 --> 02:38:09.570
melissa diner : On these items or to just immediately bring it to point of clarification for Ivan I mean the problem is, like all of us are volunteers and there is.

1881
02:38:09.840 --> 02:38:18.630
melissa diner : error and information that we get even from the parliamentarian from time to time, like he's human, so we need opinions to make the best judgment.

1882
02:38:18.960 --> 02:38:26.670
melissa diner : To be able to move forward so i'm going to do my best to try and i'll say anything I don't want to say anything but I definitely just don't agree with like.

1883
02:38:27.180 --> 02:38:35.460
melissa diner : saying nothing and letting the President go i'm trying to help move things along at certain points, so we can get it done quicker right.

1884
02:38:35.880 --> 02:38:39.810
james murez: Okay, thank you, I see no other hands let's take a boat.

1885
02:38:43.500 --> 02:38:44.010
melissa diner : Jim.

1886
02:38:44.460 --> 02:38:45.120
Yes.

1887
02:38:48.630 --> 02:38:49.230
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

1888
02:38:50.100 --> 02:38:51.360
melissa diner : Yes, Ali.

1889
02:38:52.080 --> 02:38:54.180
Alley Bean: So sorry, what did we voting on i'm I didn't.

1890
02:38:54.330 --> 02:38:55.770
melissa diner : Approval of the overall.

1891
02:38:55.770 --> 02:38:56.430
Alley Bean: Agenda yes.

1892
02:38:56.910 --> 02:38:58.860
Alley Bean: Yes, yes, yes.

1893
02:38:59.670 --> 02:39:00.600
melissa diner : i'm Andrea.

1894
02:39:01.020 --> 02:39:03.120
melissa diner : Yes, and.

1895
02:39:06.870 --> 02:39:07.230
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

1896
02:39:11.370 --> 02:39:18.420
james murez: Motion passes um it's 938 on my clock meeting is adjourned, thank you all.

1897
02:39:19.980 --> 02:39:20.850
Ivan: forward to meeting.

1898
02:39:21.120 --> 02:39:22.080
james murez: Everybody knows.

1899
02:39:22.140 --> 02:39:23.100
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks guys.

1900
02:39:23.400 --> 02:39:24.540
Ivan: You guys did great.

1901
02:39:25.860 --> 02:39:26.820
Andrea Boccaletti: Thanks bye.

1902
02:39:28.380 --> 02:39:28.860
Daffodil Tyminski: bye guys.

1903
02:39:29.130 --> 02:39:31.590
james murez: bye bye Ivan if you have a minute I would talk to you.

1904
02:39:31.950 --> 02:39:32.910
james murez: But like what.

1905
02:39:33.690 --> 02:39:35.160
james murez: It off off offline yeah.

1906
02:39:35.970 --> 02:39:37.080
james murez: Okay, thank you.