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Daffodil Tyminski: hi there.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Jim.

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james murez: Can you guys hear me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I can hear you.

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james murez: How did you get into the meetings, if you just click on the link.

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Daffodil Tyminski: know the link one work, I read typed the link into my browser tab.

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james murez: Oh, so it must have the link must have gotten pasted wrong into the yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I that's why I raised my hand to tell you, I think that might be why no one's here, people are probably having a hard time accessing it.

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james murez: yeah I guess that's probably it so you hear that you didn't put the link into the agenda correctly.

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james murez: I don't know that, but you know somebody daffodil said the same thing, she had problems she just retired and it worked.

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james murez: out so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I just want to say to I don't know that you didn't put it in correctly.

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james murez: Well, let me look i'm gonna go.

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Ivan: i'm gonna go take a quick look.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I just feel like sometimes.

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Daffodil Tyminski: adobe PDF like when it converts it it it weirdly break stuff up and you wouldn't know it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: But it only takes.

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james murez: 10 seconds, the whole the whole link is because everything's completely highlighted.

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james murez: So you just have to you have to just copy and paste the http.

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james murez: Web.

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james murez: browser let me see, let me see if I can do it because I mean what you're saying see the problem, the problem is, is when you inserted it everything there looks like it's a hyperlink it's all underlined.

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james murez: that's not right, only the only the actual hyperlink should be underlined.

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james murez: So, want to chime in real.

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quick.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i've seen this before I think it's a quirk of zoom and adobe working together honestly just.

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Ivan: I could do this myself.

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Daffodil Tyminski: 10 times and one time the links not going to work and I don't know why.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And 10 times a day.

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james murez: yeah no I hear you the way it's published though it's not right so.

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But i'm sure.

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Ivan: Can you hear me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, we can.

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james murez: Okay.

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yeah.

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james murez: you're invited.

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james murez: To all the way down is included in there that's what i'm saying.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sorry I can barely hear you though I don't know if that's me on my end or not.

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james murez: yeah hold on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah that's what I got to so I just typed the address in it, if.

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Daffodil Tyminski: It takes you to it.

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james murez: As you need the https.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah type, the whole thing and starting.

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james murez: Yes.

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james murez: I can't open two of them on the same computer at the same time.

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james murez: Well, but if everybody else is having the same problem you gotta probably reschedule this and start over again.

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Daffodil Tyminski: or missing or semen here right.

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james murez: never seen was calling me right now.

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james murez: I see my.

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james murez: Oh, are you in the meeting hold on.

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james murez: Because Andre says, having problems getting them, let me just see here.

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james murez: Z is missing in zoom.

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james murez: The Z is missing and zoom she says.

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james murez: When you copy that link.

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james murez: i'm letting you in.

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james murez: here.

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james murez: he's gotta unmute himself.

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Ivan: Okay, all right.

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Andrea Boccaletti: well.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I don't understand why it didn't work like the last time that I did for the last meeting, did you say.

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Sima Kostovetsky: One small there's one small typo.

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Sima Kostovetsky: and

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Sima Kostovetsky: I don't know why that is.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I don't see, I have a Z on mine for what it's worth.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Oh Okay, all I did was I took that link and I just copied it into the browser.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

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Andrea Boccaletti: me it wouldn't do it wouldn't, allow me to actually type it strange understand.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Is this an issue you guys.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I i'll tell you i've had this happen before I just honestly think sometimes when you convert to PDF.

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Daffodil Tyminski: PDF does something to your document and.

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james murez: must be a MAC.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah blame everything on the mass go ahead.

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Andrea Boccaletti: i'm using a MAC.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I used to.

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me to.

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james murez: me.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay well um.

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Andrea Boccaletti: So I guess so.

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james murez: You have a quorum.

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Andrea Boccaletti: We do.

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Andrea Boccaletti: get a call the meeting to order at 908.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Good morning, everyone.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Good morning.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, so.

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Andrea Boccaletti: i'm sorry i'm just okay.

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james murez: Who is on the committee.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I am Sema you are tough adele and Ivan that's our committee, we have everybody here.

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james murez: Okay, let me promote these other two people.

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Andrea Boccaletti: What are the two people.

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james murez: Well, they were on they were in as attendees.

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james murez: Okay, which gives them less.

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james murez: functionality.

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james murez: Okay everybody's here.

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Andrea Boccaletti: So.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I make a motion to approve this agenda, as presented.

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james murez: First, you gotta do roll call.

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Andrea Boccaletti: To do roll call okay.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Sema cuz cuz St.

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Andrea Boccaletti: James ramirez.

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here.

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Andrea Boccaletti: That the delta minsky.

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Sima Kostovetsky: We just lost her.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Back to her Ivan Spiegel.

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Ivan: yep you're okay.

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Andrea Boccaletti: i'm here daffodil Kaminski.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Where did she go.

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james murez: he's not back yet.

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james murez: He disconnected herself somehow.

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Andrea Boccaletti: hmm okay.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Well, we have a quorum with four out of the five.

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james murez: right and as soon as she gets back off promoter.

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Andrea Boccaletti: All right, so make a motion to approve this agenda is presented.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Second.

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Sima Kostovetsky: A second Sema okay.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Alright, so take a vote on that.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Sema.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

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Andrea Boccaletti: James yes.

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james murez: Sir, yes.

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Andrea Boccaletti: that's it doesn't it's key that she's not here.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Yes or death oh she's not on.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Evan Spiegel yep.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, so the vote count is 400.

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Andrea Boccaletti: daffodil.

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james murez: There were a second i'm just promoting her there, she is.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Definitely.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah apologies, yes, my Internet connection I think is a little unstable i'm just going to turn my video off.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay um we just thought about to prove the agenda is presented.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, okay.

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All right.

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Andrea Boccaletti: All right, um announcements, I guess, the only announcement, I will be purchasing the two hard drives one terabyte hard drives that were I guess approved sometime before I became treasurer.

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Andrea Boccaletti: To help with administration to help him with with the new programs and to save our data so i'll be purchasing those purchasing those this week.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Also, Jim was going to reach out to hear just about business cards that he was going to have business cards made for him as his new position as President so once we get the template worked out and just.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Will order minimum order for business cards for Jim.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And that nobody else reached out to me about business cards so.

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Andrea Boccaletti: that's it any other announcements.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay hearing none.

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Andrea Boccaletti: zero there any now we're going to public comments any items that are not on the agenda.

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Andrea Boccaletti: We have any please raise your hand now if you have a comment.

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Sima Kostovetsky: We have one hand raised.

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james murez: Oh, I have to promote somebody to be an alternate.

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james murez: host yeah Helen has her hand raised allowed to talk go ahead Hello.

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Helen Fallon: How your link wasn't working to get in so I don't know where you were on the agenda so.

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james murez: just starting.

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Andrea Boccaletti: started with just to.

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Helen Fallon: yeah okay.

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Helen Fallon: Sorry well yeah the link isn't working it's.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I don't understand why because I copied and pasted it just like I did for the for the meeting.

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Helen Fallon: I just had to finally login through zoom so and just put in the ID.

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james murez: sorry about that works.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Let me get back to the agenda cases that it for public comment.

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james murez: there's no one else.

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Andrea Boccaletti: So now on to number five.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Approval of the minutes of the September 7 2021 meeting.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Do I do, I hear a motion to approve the meeting minutes.

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Daffodil Tyminski: move to further minutes.

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Andrea Boccaletti: daffodil and I was do I hear a second.

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james murez: yeah James seconds okay.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay i'm.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Sorry, let me just go back and switching okay Sema.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

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james murez: James yes.

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Daffodil Tyminski: daffodil yes.

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Andrea Boccaletti: i've been.

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Ivan: Saying.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And under I will go, yes, so the vote count is foreign favor 01 extent extension.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay um.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Is there.

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Andrea Boccaletti: As far as our business i'll cover it with once we go over the August monthly expense report.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And so now we're on to 778.

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Andrea Boccaletti: The August monthly expenditure report.

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Andrea Boccaletti: We still on here we're showing no.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Money spent for the month of August I guess it's because of this things with the credit card being held up the the expenses will be showing on the September.

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Andrea Boccaletti: monthly expenditure report which actually was available today, but I can't get it it won't generated for me until I have all the receipts so seem, I know, there was some receipts from Facebook from some Facebook ads that we did without those I can't even generate.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Those to.

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Andrea Boccaletti: You did.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I send them to you yesterday, or something to you when I first got them in the middle of the month, and then I sent them what I had, I sent you what I had yesterday.

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Andrea Boccaletti: What email to treasure.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I was looking for those and I did not see.

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Sima Kostovetsky: i'm happy to resend right now.

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Andrea Boccaletti: You need sure you have it they're available I would appreciate that.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Because I had one for 50 something dollars, but then I didn't have the other one that added up to the $71.

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Sima Kostovetsky: yeah the 71 I had sent you and that's so far the only received that I have from them for this month because they haven't sent me the receipt for last week when we ran the promos.

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Andrea Boccaletti: 50 something.

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Andrea Boccaletti: But okay.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Oh, you got the one for 50 something.

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Sima Kostovetsky: yeah OK, so the 71 I sent yesterday, and then I also sent you the constant contact as well.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Right, I had that one yeah.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Okay, good.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Okay, let me just resend the 71 and then we should be all squared.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay yeah yeah.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Wait which which email, do you prefer it because I send it to treasure it via.

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Andrea Boccaletti: that's the only one, I want to use yeah.

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Andrea Boccaletti: All right, thank you and, as far as that we show here that there we have in conferences of 1100 dollars and 80 cents.

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james murez: And you share that screen.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Oh, can I.

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Andrea Boccaletti: See.

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Andrea Boccaletti: What do I do this screen okay.

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Andrea Boccaletti: But you know, seeing that.

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james murez: Yes, great now.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Sorry, so we have commitments of 1100 dollars and 80 cents, and that is without one.

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Andrea Boccaletti: dating back to our February May, June and July invoices so everything before I took over his treasure I don't understand why.

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Andrea Boccaletti: These.

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Andrea Boccaletti: they're generated by the city, as these outstanding and expenses, but yet they were never paid and I don't understand how they were paid in the past but.

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Andrea Boccaletti: i'm going to be paying for it with our credit card now will take care of that today, and then we will no longer have those could movement commitments outstanding welcome.

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james murez: We ask you about that, I mean, as far as I know he never used to postpone making.

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Andrea Boccaletti: He would have the city, he told me he would have the city generate checks for those expenses, but I don't understand it with some cross that that.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Either company didn't send the invoices for this month.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I don't know what.

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james murez: You want to check with you want to check with you, if he knows anything about it before you pay it.

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Andrea Boccaletti: He does know about it.

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james murez: No, you go.

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Andrea Boccaletti: We talked about it and I forget the reason exactly the reason why they weren't paid.

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james murez: Okay, but he was okay with.

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james murez: Yes, okay that sounds my only.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And um if anybody knows the full scope of what apple one does for us.

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james murez: To check you.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Could you tell me, I mean.

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james murez: yeah it's not a secret there they had an employee that used to do a whole bunch of tasks that that our prior board didn't do, in other words, it was it was our prior board's responsibility to create agendas and instead of them doing it, they would have apple one do it for us.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And now we're no longer using them because I don't see there any other.

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james murez: We have not yet engage their services at this point it doesn't seem like the right thing to do.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Okay, can I ask a question.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Yes, is that something that we can actually use them for for data entry.

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james murez: We could, if there was data entry that we needed to do.

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Sima Kostovetsky: um Okay, I think there might be something worthwhile coming up so.

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james murez: we'll have to talk more about that yeah data entry really should be done by the person that.

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james murez: is creating the data by a third party that's trying to transfer it from one place to another, so, for instance, when there used to be.

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james murez: A sign up mailing list at the farmers market and people would write their names down on the piece of paper.

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james murez: We would we would pay Kenny, whatever the number was 25 bucks an hour to take those paper sheets and type them into the computer, for us, so we could have a bigger mailing list.

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james murez: Then, at some point in time after that we went out and bought a an iPad tablet and had an account to a hot a hot spot and people were able to type their names in directly, so it took out that middleman of Kenny, so all of a sudden that service was no longer needed.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay.

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james murez: correct way to do it it's to let the person that wants to add their name to the list to just add it directly.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, great so those those encumbrances are then from prior to this new board taking over and they will be paid.

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Andrea Boccaletti: today.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And as far as the monthly expenses, the the storage unit and.

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Andrea Boccaletti: The web corner who's our web support for web for fantasy website I don't understand why those haven't shown shown in the monthly expenditure report, but again I think it's because you had to hold up with the card and the other.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I know that the city generated a checker to for us, but I still don't understand why doesn't show here as.

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james murez: Can you scroll your screen, so we have some idea about what you're talking about.

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Andrea Boccaletti: there's nothing else.

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james murez: So you're talking about web corner I don't see anything on there about web CT.

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Andrea Boccaletti: yeah me, neither do I, so I don't understand I don't know if it's just because it none of that was paid in in August and we'll see it in the September.

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Andrea Boccaletti: monthly expenditure report once I generate that and get the receipts in and generate that so that's, the only thing that I don't fully understand but.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Anyway, that's that's our monthly expenditure report, in a nutshell.

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james murez: Well, let me ask a question, if this is our monthly expenditure report for August and you're going to generate something new.

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james murez: it's going to change this.

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james murez: Do we have to review it again.

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james murez: And then we're going to make a recommendation to the board we're going to put in an agenda request to adopt a monthly expenditure report is presented.

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Andrea Boccaletti: nothing's going to change this one September will show its own set of expenses that's it, nothing is going to change this.

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james murez: So we're going to be a full month behind every month I guess.

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james murez: Okay, I didn't understand that.

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Sima Kostovetsky: thing up.

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Andrea Boccaletti: He was telling me, we have always been.

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Sima Kostovetsky: yeah okay.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Just from because of when they're generated by the city and when we're supposed to post and when we're when we have our meeting.

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james murez: Can I make up, can I, we have a hand up, but before we.

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james murez: Do we have a motion on the floor at this point we're supposed to always make a motion and then second it and then open it for public comment, so now that you've you've explained it I guess i'd like to make the motion to approve the expenditure report as presented.

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james murez: Somebody with.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Second, see my.

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james murez: see my second okay now let's open up the I don't want to take the meeting away from me and risk, but I want to make sure.

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james murez: That we're recovering I appreciate it.

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james murez: And we have a public comment Helen go ahead.

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Helen Fallon: I was just going to mention that, if you since the monthly the mers comes out at the beginning of the month, and as Andrea said.

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Helen Fallon: It was available today he just can print it out, you put your change your date of meeting for this meeting to a couple days later, you would that be current all the time.

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Andrea Boccaletti: The only issue is that the only issue, then it became, we would not be able to get anything on to the agenda for the board meeting at the end of the month.

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james murez: And and we're based based on what you just said, addresses that because it wouldn't be too close to the end of the week.

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Andrea Boccaletti: right because aren't all aren't all.

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Andrea Boccaletti: items to be put on the agenda for the meeting Dubai today.

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james murez: So that's something that we can talk about because Yes, that was the previous board always wanted to on Tuesday, so there was time to create the Ad COM agenda, which is published on Friday.

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james murez: If it made sense for us to change that date, because it would give you more opportunity to get things where they were in sync.

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james murez: I think that that makes perfectly good sense, the question is is is when is a better date that everybody would have available Tuesday mornings for this meeting seems like it's always been that way.

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james murez: I can't do it on Friday so then that leaves us Thursday there's usually a loop pack meeting on Thursday evenings.

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james murez: And we only have one zoom account, so we would have to do it at some point in time.

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Sima Kostovetsky: daytime.

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james murez: yeah daytime meeting so.

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james murez: It works for me if it works for you, I don't really.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Well, if it was on Friday would that would give us no time no turnaround to get anything on to the agenda Fred come right.

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james murez: Well, when you say turn around it's just a question of posting the agenda request, Melissa doesn't normally make up the agenda until Friday.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay.

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james murez: But I you know we would probably need to check with her if if we were to give it to her, on Thursday, if that would still be enough time your items are usually fairly straightforward and easy.

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james murez: You know there's there's a lot of a lot of information, as long as you had it posted correctly on on the dnc site with your minutes in your attachments.

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james murez: As supporting documents you submit them correctly into the agenda request system, she should be able to pull them out really quickly and easily.

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Helen Fallon: than me I point out that you could just do a placeholder for the numbers it's just a regular printout from the city.

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Helen Fallon: Rather than.

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james murez: we're trying to get we're trying to get away from placeholders other than for emergency purposes it's just it just it's a two step process then.

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james murez: And it's really easy to screw up because if you put in a placeholder, then you have to know that one was a placeholder.

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james murez: And then submit a second one and somebody has to know to go back and pull the second one, it just becomes more complicated would be just easier to just submit it as an agenda request on Thursday.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, well, I have no problem moving the meetings to Wednesday, so that we have that day to be able to generate this murder and get it in time for the meeting.

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Andrea Boccaletti: But then we'd have to deny this, we would have one month, where we would have to approve to to have the monthly expenditure reports to catch up, then, and always then be sort of in sync with the month right or just or be approving the previous months.

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james murez: I guess my only question is is one day make a difference, as far as them producing whatever report, they need to do, and then I don't understand quite why.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Well, it was just available this morning, so.

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james murez: So it's normally available on Tuesday morning, the first Tuesday of the month.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I don't know but that's.

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james murez: that's when I saw before we start changing things we.

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james murez: need to find out what is their actual scheduling what studies actual scheduling.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Right, well, I was on the site yesterday, and I was on the site up until 6pm and there was nothing I went this morning and actually it was a possibility to generate the Sep tember expense expenditure report, which was not available yesterday so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So the issue would be sorry under the issue would be on the budget and finance committee's agenda there have to be a placeholder right because we couldn't give three days notice for the link right.

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james murez: to your right.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I guess that's why you always chose this date.

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Andrea Boccaletti: of the month.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Or why we're always that explains why row is behind a month.

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james murez: yeah because you have to publish the murder report three days in advance of the actual meeting date so even on.

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james murez: The Wednesday, you will have it in till Sunday.

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james murez: ready, you know Sunday would be your posting date.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Right so it's it's worse than.

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james murez: it's not going to change anything.

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Daffodil Tyminski: No, what about.

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james murez: You could do it, you could do anything if they released it on Monday, then you could do it on Thursday.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Right.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Right, what about just moving it, you know the meeting to the first Tuesday of the month.

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Andrea Boccaletti: that's where we are right now.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sorry i'm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Like basically in this month doing two meetings to catch up and then switching the date.

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Andrea Boccaletti: But again, we don't have the month the Mer available in time three days to post three days prior to the meeting right.

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Daffodil Tyminski: right but i'm just saying if we did a meeting today and say a meeting next week second Tuesday of the month, and then just switch the meeting time toys, be the second day.

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Ivan: I would make our meeting after.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I get it, but if we did it this month we'd be catching up.

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james murez: So I guess.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I would like, we would only catch up for this month and then we'd be we'd be in the same.

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Daffodil Tyminski: boat, we always be behind right.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Behind again we get back.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Behind again.

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james murez: Let me, let me ask a different question this Maybe this would make a difference.

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james murez: What if we put the place holder, not even a placeholder What if we just a gen dies.

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james murez: The budget and finance.

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james murez: items on ABC COM, but did not have links to the actual documents.

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james murez: Because we're not supposed to be reviewing content in ABC COM anyway we're just deciding whether or not the item can be put on the boards agenda now, if we did that, then we could schedule the.

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james murez: Budget and Finance Committee meeting for the second Monday of the month, and only post, the actual reports to the board agenda there by completely eliminating having to post, the reports calm.

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Ivan: No i'd come, it has to be ready at add come.

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Ivan: Why.

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james murez: You have not allowed to talk on.

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Ivan: What.

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james murez: we're not allowed to talk about content.

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james murez: If we say we're going to.

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Ivan: really know you're not.

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Ivan: you're not allowed to talk about content, but you have the right to add comments post, the review all the documents and make early items ready to go.

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Ivan: And this committee means to meet before that.

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james murez: Okay you'd have to show me I guess in the rules, where it says add calm has to review the documents that are going to be presented to the board.

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Ivan: Then what's the point of outcome if you don't do that.

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james murez: Well i'm you know i've asked myself that many times, what is the.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I don't think anybody thinks there's a point to Adam.

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james murez: Adam calm is the scheduling tab.

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james murez: In an in an open and transparent system add calm is just pushing through everything either to a committee or to the board it's not reviewing any of the content.

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Ivan: Is we are.

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Ivan: Not on the merits, but you got to make sure, everything is there.

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james murez: right away.

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james murez: If the mirror report was published that first week it can't be presented on the Ad COM agenda, but it could be certainly put on the boards agenda we don't believe that the city is never not going to do it, and if we do we we just take it off the Boards agenda.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Well, the only problem, we would have is that we would not have a committee.

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Andrea Boccaletti: available for outcome to be placed them on the on the agenda for the meeting we wouldn't have.

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james murez: We wouldn't have.

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james murez: We wouldn't have a not for add calm, but we would for the board.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Right okay.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I don't think we needed for that be would that be done typed into the Boards agenda.

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Ivan: This this.

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Ivan: Budget Committee has to approve the content.

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Ivan: that's our drug.

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james murez: But where does it say that.

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Andrea Boccaletti: But we.

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james murez: Were we're.

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Ivan: here.

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james murez: i've been let's take this offline I think that that may be the end Well, the answer is simple, we don't produce the mirror report for the Ad COM agenda we produce it for the Boards agenda and then we're always caught up.

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james murez: we're not under.

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Ivan: Because I don't I don't know what we're trying to do this, who working like this for 10 years now, you know.

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Ivan: Why are you trying.

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Ivan: To change it, for no reason.

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james murez: Okay.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I guess to approve last month's.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Expenditure report.

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Andrea Boccaletti: we're always a Monday, rather than two months ago right.

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james murez: Right we're always a month behind, and that means that things that come up are always a month farther out of everybody's memory.

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Ivan: You know.

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Ivan: The approval of the lawyers have month behind.

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Andrea Boccaletti: All right, let's let's talk about this.

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Andrea Boccaletti: yeah let's take this all about.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Later can fix this have towards.

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Andrea Boccaletti: So.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Now, I take the vote count on.

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Andrea Boccaletti: approving it a.

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james murez: Roll roll call vote.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, so take a roll call vote on proving the monthly expenditure report for August.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Sema.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, James.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, daffodil yes Ivan.

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Yes.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And I vote yes on their vocabulary, so the vote count is five and favor zero against and zero abstaining.

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Andrea Boccaletti: So that is approved.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay now on to seven be.

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Andrea Boccaletti: So i'll turn this over to see my good what your outreach committee is requesting $2,000 for an hour.

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Andrea Boccaletti: or Community stakeholder event at the Venice Pier.

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Sima Kostovetsky: And i'd like to make an amendment.

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Okay.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I change the amount to 1200 dollars, please, instead of 2000 okay.

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Sima Kostovetsky: and

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Andrea Boccaletti: Is anybody's second amendment.

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00:39:54.300 --> 00:39:55.890
Ivan: Well, you don't have the motion yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah we.

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Ivan: know.

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Sima Kostovetsky: That you can read out the motion demanded motion.

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Okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Now we need the motion, then the second.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Okay, no i'll read the Amended motion and then we'll second at correct.

419
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:15.810
Sima Kostovetsky: Right.

420
00:40:16.080 --> 00:40:17.430
Ivan: No, no, no.

421
00:40:17.640 --> 00:40:19.830
Ivan: Wait a minute women so.

422
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Ivan: Are you changing the entire motion you're just changing the amount.

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james murez: Whereas the right.

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00:40:27.930 --> 00:40:29.730
Ivan: then make a motion.

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00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:30.000
To.

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Ivan: approve approved emotion that you're submitting, then you can amend it.

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Sima Kostovetsky: yeah here's.

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Sima Kostovetsky: here's the Okay, the original motion is the outreach committee occur class $2,000 for the reopening of the Pier on October 24 for promotional and advertising purposes to include printing materials display items promotional printing.

429
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Sima Kostovetsky: and promotional printing period.

430
00:40:57.540 --> 00:40:58.020
Ivan: one.

431
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Sima Kostovetsky: that's the risk.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And she'd like to change that amount to 1200 dollars So how do we do that, then we.

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Ivan: know you need a motion to make the motion, you need a second.

434
00:41:13.140 --> 00:41:18.240
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, so we're just regarding what's written here and set at seven be for $2,000.

435
00:41:18.540 --> 00:41:24.570
james murez: seven seven be is not the motion seven be is is a line of text it's not written as emotion.

436
00:41:25.590 --> 00:41:27.600
james murez: Okay, no information about it there's no.

437
00:41:27.600 --> 00:41:27.840
link.

438
00:41:29.490 --> 00:41:29.760
Ivan: When.

439
00:41:30.030 --> 00:41:33.540
Ivan: i'm going to get there, but let's get the motion on the floor first.

440
00:41:33.720 --> 00:41:34.050
OK.

441
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Andrea Boccaletti: So the motion is to with Sema just read.

442
00:41:39.750 --> 00:41:42.630
Andrea Boccaletti: To to request 1200 dollars.

443
00:41:43.350 --> 00:41:45.030
james murez: No it's to request to she's requesting.

444
00:41:45.240 --> 00:41:47.220
Sima Kostovetsky: Right now it's the $2,000.

445
00:41:47.220 --> 00:41:48.060
Ivan: Request right.

446
00:41:48.540 --> 00:41:50.250
Sima Kostovetsky: You don't have a second for that one.

447
00:41:50.250 --> 00:41:50.370
You.

448
00:41:51.690 --> 00:41:55.500
james murez: see my have that motion written out so you can share your screen at least.

449
00:41:55.770 --> 00:41:57.570
Sima Kostovetsky: see what the light going.

450
00:41:57.900 --> 00:41:58.560
james murez: Through your screen.

451
00:41:58.590 --> 00:42:00.030
Ivan: At the other second.

452
00:42:02.490 --> 00:42:06.120
Sima Kostovetsky: I get us wait, do you want me to share the screen right now, before the second.

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00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:10.650
Ivan: The second we can't talk about anything.

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00:42:10.890 --> 00:42:12.870
Ivan: And we don't you get a motion Ivan letter.

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00:42:12.870 --> 00:42:18.960
james murez: put up the motion letter put up the motion she read emotion letters show us on the screen what that is.

456
00:42:19.620 --> 00:42:20.160
Okay.

457
00:42:21.210 --> 00:42:22.230
Andrea Boccaletti: A bit of stop sharing.

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00:42:22.860 --> 00:42:23.700
james murez: You can share.

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james murez: You know how to share Sema here you go.

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Sima Kostovetsky: here's my email, do you see it, the outreach Committee requests $2,000 for the reopening of the Pier and October 24 for promotional and advertising purposes to include printing materials.

461
00:42:45.900 --> 00:42:48.750
Sima Kostovetsky: display items and promotional printing sorry limited.

462
00:42:50.460 --> 00:42:52.470
Sima Kostovetsky: Forget recycling giving giveaways.

463
00:42:56.340 --> 00:42:58.800
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, so do we have a second for that motion.

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00:43:04.620 --> 00:43:06.060
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay hearing no second.

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00:43:06.120 --> 00:43:08.160
Ivan: row correct, and so the motion failed.

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00:43:08.460 --> 00:43:10.020
Andrea Boccaletti: Motion fails, so now let's.

467
00:43:12.600 --> 00:43:13.230
Ivan: move on.

468
00:43:14.790 --> 00:43:15.450
Sima Kostovetsky: No.

469
00:43:15.750 --> 00:43:16.110
Sima Kostovetsky: But she.

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00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:18.330
Andrea Boccaletti: meant he's making it.

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00:43:18.930 --> 00:43:22.890
Ivan: matter you need a second on this motion.

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Sima Kostovetsky: To even to even make an amendment that's not what happened at the last fancy meeting that's not fair you.

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00:43:29.250 --> 00:43:30.240
Sima Kostovetsky: vote on the first.

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00:43:31.050 --> 00:43:35.220
Ivan: On the floor before you can run before you can amend it.

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00:43:36.510 --> 00:43:36.750
Sima Kostovetsky: So.

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00:43:38.040 --> 00:43:38.340
Sima Kostovetsky: Why.

477
00:43:39.690 --> 00:43:41.190
Sima Kostovetsky: So I didn't get a second.

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00:43:41.700 --> 00:43:48.360
Andrea Boccaletti: Alright, so I didn't second because I thought that we had to we had to get rid of this one before she could make the amendment.

479
00:43:48.390 --> 00:43:49.320
Ivan: No, no.

480
00:43:49.380 --> 00:43:50.400
Ivan: You have to get this.

481
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:51.690
Ivan: One on the floor.

482
00:43:58.770 --> 00:43:59.790
Sima Kostovetsky: That dollar amount.

483
00:44:01.110 --> 00:44:02.820
Ivan: You can do that afterwards.

484
00:44:03.510 --> 00:44:07.950
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, I will second that motion so that we can get to the amendment okay.

485
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:15.150
Ivan: All right, so Andre and now now she wants to she can amend make a motion to amended.

486
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:16.230
Okay.

487
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:20.250
james murez: Have we had we have Oh, excuse me, we have one hand up.

488
00:44:21.150 --> 00:44:23.490
Ivan: done what doesn't matter we're not there yet.

489
00:44:24.240 --> 00:44:26.370
james murez: Well, why don't we take public comment on the motion on the.

490
00:44:26.370 --> 00:44:27.000
Ivan: Low you have.

491
00:44:27.060 --> 00:44:29.910
Ivan: To if she wants to make an amendment, you have to do that first.

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00:44:30.600 --> 00:44:31.800
james murez: Go ahead make your amendment.

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Sima Kostovetsky: My amendment is the outreach committee request 1200 dollars for the reopening of the Pier on October 24th for a Community event for promotional and advertising purposes to include printing materials display items and promotional printing period.

494
00:44:56.340 --> 00:45:03.960
Ivan: Right, all you need to do is change the amendment should be to change the amount to 1200 dollars.

495
00:45:04.530 --> 00:45:05.070
Ivan: You don't need.

496
00:45:05.100 --> 00:45:06.690
Ivan: To restate the whole motion.

497
00:45:07.080 --> 00:45:09.150
Thanks changed okay.

498
00:45:11.550 --> 00:45:12.840
Sima Kostovetsky: Now, are we asking for the.

499
00:45:14.010 --> 00:45:15.900
Ivan: Second, for the amendment.

500
00:45:18.300 --> 00:45:23.430
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, again, I will second get amendment to change it to 1200 dollars.

501
00:45:25.170 --> 00:45:26.910
Ivan: Alright, so we're.

502
00:45:29.550 --> 00:45:31.830
Ivan: going to discuss only the amendment.

503
00:45:36.450 --> 00:45:41.220
Andrea Boccaletti: we're just were discussing the amendment now so let's open it to public comment, and I see that.

504
00:45:42.750 --> 00:45:45.510
james murez: hand up and she just has to unmute yourself okay.

505
00:45:46.530 --> 00:45:54.330
Helen Fallon: um yeah i've got a couple questions about this, I looked at the transcript of the meeting, because I, when I saw this on your agenda, I was curious as to where it was.

506
00:45:54.810 --> 00:46:00.270
Helen Fallon: I don't believe they ever even took a vote on an amount so i'm what we can do is tell a committee submits.

507
00:46:00.750 --> 00:46:05.490
Helen Fallon: A seamless motion I don't it doesn't seem to be the committee's motion, and this is an event.

508
00:46:06.030 --> 00:46:17.280
Helen Fallon: That don't that aren't there like isn't there, like the city has to approve an event and there's like a 30 day there's all this paperwork you've got to fill out, so the details of this are just very confusing and.

509
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:20.280
Helen Fallon: From what I can see from the transcript.

510
00:46:21.660 --> 00:46:25.770
Helen Fallon: There was actually no vote, it was a lot of talk about what they might or might not do and.

511
00:46:26.820 --> 00:46:30.900
Helen Fallon: No details, so I don't know where this 1200 or 2000 even comes from.

512
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:33.000
Helen Fallon: No committee approval.

513
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:35.820
Okay.

514
00:46:37.050 --> 00:46:37.320
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay.

515
00:46:37.950 --> 00:46:38.310
james murez: Thank you.

516
00:46:39.510 --> 00:46:42.000
Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you, is there any other public comment is that.

517
00:46:42.570 --> 00:46:43.470
james murez: he's the only one here.

518
00:46:43.890 --> 00:46:47.460
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, so now let's open this Sir discussion.

519
00:46:48.750 --> 00:46:49.770
Andrea Boccaletti: Members of the committee.

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00:46:50.190 --> 00:47:03.090
Sima Kostovetsky: So bored let me, let me start so two things, let me give you a little bit of background we've obviously been itching to do something, since we haven't had an in person events since December of 2019.

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00:47:03.900 --> 00:47:21.630
Sima Kostovetsky: that's just how it worked because we got shut down and thinking at the end of February, so we haven't had an in person event that has to do with the V MC outside of our involvement in the farmers market since 2019.

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00:47:22.860 --> 00:47:36.450
Sima Kostovetsky: we've had a lot of comments from the Community as to the fact that we want to engender goodwill within our Community, we want to do something that is for the Community where we can all get together.

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00:47:36.900 --> 00:47:49.440
Sima Kostovetsky: And it's not riddled with strife and we're not just talking about the one issue that has been involving Venice, for the last four years that's on everybody's mouth.

524
00:47:50.310 --> 00:47:59.820
Sima Kostovetsky: and actually the one event that everybody goes back to happened over the summer, and it was actually an election event.

525
00:48:00.660 --> 00:48:08.790
Sima Kostovetsky: That happened in the parking lot of arbor, so we are desperately trying to figure out how to get our Community together.

526
00:48:09.630 --> 00:48:31.410
Sima Kostovetsky: And the way that we are doing it, which actually came together after our meeting, which is why I didn't ask for money because we didn't know what we could do is that we're actually partnering with the Department of La rx and parks, so they have approved our.

527
00:48:32.460 --> 00:48:46.500
Sima Kostovetsky: we're working in partnership with them so they have given us approval to hold an outdoor gathering at the Pier on October 24.

528
00:48:47.220 --> 00:48:54.000
Sima Kostovetsky: For those of you who do not know the Pier has actually reopened, probably, I would say, for about a month.

529
00:48:54.270 --> 00:49:09.420
Sima Kostovetsky: But nobody really knows that that's been going on and they started doing movies on the Pier they started holding events and that's all through racks and parks, so if the city is approving it, we can be a part of it the same way that we were part of sports day.

530
00:49:10.830 --> 00:49:20.010
Sima Kostovetsky: You know when the recreation Center was opened back in September, so this is how we're doing it, the reason why I asked for money.

531
00:49:20.460 --> 00:49:28.290
Sima Kostovetsky: Is because, in order to have an event, we need to advertise and we need to get people there.

532
00:49:28.860 --> 00:49:36.450
Sima Kostovetsky: So, as I said, we're working in partnership i'm working closely with the new head of wrecks and parks, I just met with her yesterday.

533
00:49:37.200 --> 00:49:50.370
Sima Kostovetsky: And over the past week, since my committee meeting i've been working on a budget to see what we could and couldn't do, and hence my Amended motion and hence going over the budget for the things that we purchased the last time we had an.

534
00:49:51.840 --> 00:50:10.440
Sima Kostovetsky: You know, an in person outdoor event so that's kind of the backstory, so I think spending 1200 dollars to get people to the Pier to celebrate its reopening is a very small some considering we have $42,000 this year.

535
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:13.140
Sima Kostovetsky: And it's already October.

536
00:50:15.390 --> 00:50:18.660
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, definitely definitely has their hand raised.

537
00:50:21.450 --> 00:50:26.070
Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry, to i've been on mute because there's like a murder of crows right outside my window so apologies.

538
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Daffodil Tyminski: But yeah I was curious to like what this was where it came from, I would say, if we do the motions just give a little bit of background, so we know because to me $2,000 seems an extraordinary amount.

539
00:50:38.640 --> 00:50:51.540
Daffodil Tyminski: I wonder if we could when we're creating some of these marketing materials make them a little bit generic so that we can use them again, I understand the Facebook ads and stuff like that are kind of specific.

540
00:50:52.260 --> 00:50:52.650
Sima Kostovetsky: well.

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Sima Kostovetsky: For me, I just want to show you guys some things so one of the things that we created the last time that we did that we did an in person event where these the MC stickers.

542
00:51:03.630 --> 00:51:10.980
Sima Kostovetsky: So I need to reorder them I don't have any more and that lasted basically my whole I mean, I have some I don't have enough.

543
00:51:11.370 --> 00:51:26.700
Sima Kostovetsky: So I mean like something like this for 1000 of these costs $120 Just to give you guys sort of you know, an example advertising with the Argonauts depending on how we do it cost somewhere between 115 $300.

544
00:51:28.200 --> 00:51:35.310
Sima Kostovetsky: You know, depending on the kind of campaigns, we do on social media can cost, you know, depending on weekly.

545
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:48.660
Sima Kostovetsky: What we run can cross you know let's say $50 a week, so that the printing and you're right about the generic stuff, so this is definitely generic and this lasted me two years over two years.

546
00:51:49.260 --> 00:52:04.500
Sima Kostovetsky: And one of the things that I also wanted to order because it's a Community event, so you know, we want to get so there's going to be live music and there's going to be specials from the restaurants down on Washington Square.

547
00:52:05.520 --> 00:52:11.550
Sima Kostovetsky: So really what we're going to be paying for and once again I did this for the last in person thing that we did.

548
00:52:12.030 --> 00:52:17.940
Sima Kostovetsky: I ordered individually wrapped cookies like chocolate chip cookies because the event is from six to nine.

549
00:52:18.450 --> 00:52:27.540
Sima Kostovetsky: So you know people will come they'll learn about the dmc they'll learn about the Pier there'll be live music, people will be able to hang out people will be able to talk.

550
00:52:28.200 --> 00:52:41.730
Sima Kostovetsky: So look my I don't necessarily always spend the money that I asked for, so it always goes back into the pool but i'd rather have that amount, because I know how much advertising costs so.

551
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:49.440
Sima Kostovetsky: Six to $700 of that is going to go to advertising, as is just how it works yeah.

552
00:52:49.800 --> 00:53:00.990
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah particularly this time of year it gets more expensive, no, I understand the other question I had is if we're doing it in conjunction with wrexham parks, is there going to be a greater presence from other organizations like can.

553
00:53:00.990 --> 00:53:02.820
Daffodil Tyminski: We get some synergy to get people there.

554
00:53:03.120 --> 00:53:10.530
Sima Kostovetsky: Well yeah I mean we're going to be working with them, but there's there's there's there so they're kind of just starting on their on their advertising and their social.

555
00:53:10.770 --> 00:53:14.940
Sima Kostovetsky: And he will be able to use whatever we can you know, and hopefully like.

556
00:53:15.180 --> 00:53:24.870
Sima Kostovetsky: We want to involve the police, we want to involve valley fire departments, a big deal, I mean the fact that the Pier hasn't been open for three years and nobody knows about it, and this is just phase one.

557
00:53:25.380 --> 00:53:39.360
Sima Kostovetsky: And you know the whole goal is to keep using the Pier over and over and over again, so this is just our first little foray into working with REX and parks and you know, seeing what we can do as a Community.

558
00:53:43.350 --> 00:53:43.770
Daffodil Tyminski: doing it.

559
00:53:44.550 --> 00:53:46.380
Sima Kostovetsky: To Jim trying really hard.

560
00:53:48.420 --> 00:53:49.440
Andrea Boccaletti: Jim has his hand raised.

561
00:53:50.610 --> 00:53:52.950
james murez: I thank you um so I have.

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james murez: Several I i'm in disagreement with this, I think that this is the wrong thing to do see my talk to you about that already, I think that this should be a Halloween party.

563
00:54:04.770 --> 00:54:11.370
james murez: I think that this should be the first of an annual Halloween party we don't have to do it on the 24th as you described in your meeting.

564
00:54:11.940 --> 00:54:20.430
james murez: which was in the recording of your meeting and Helen, I just wanted to back her up you never did come up with an amount or how you were actually going to be spending the money in your meeting.

565
00:54:20.490 --> 00:54:27.810
Sima Kostovetsky: As an executive Member I believe i'm allowed to ask for money without the back backing of my committee and, as I said, because.

566
00:54:28.590 --> 00:54:30.480
james murez: Your Committee never made a motion to have the.

567
00:54:30.540 --> 00:54:32.520
Sima Kostovetsky: Show because we didn't know that we could ask for money, I.

568
00:54:32.520 --> 00:54:33.780
james murez: don't want to argue with you, I have.

569
00:54:35.460 --> 00:54:44.670
james murez: um you know when the suggestion was made to do it on Halloween in your committee, you said you didn't want to do it that way, because you wanted to be able to take your kids trick or treating.

570
00:54:45.300 --> 00:54:56.460
james murez: To me, opening the pure is not an event that has to do with bringing kids to the Pier, it has to do, and the neighborhood Council is really more about the adults in our Community.

571
00:54:56.730 --> 00:55:06.300
james murez: Not that i'm opposed to children and backing a children's programs I think it's great you know we've been doing it at the farmers market for 35 years but, but the.

572
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james murez: The concept that we need to host a meeting that is friendly to your kids because they can come on the 24th but they can't come on Halloween to me, is a really poor excuse for why we're doing it on the 24th rather than the 30 I see my up the floor don't interrupt me please, please.

573
00:55:27.450 --> 00:55:27.780
Sima Kostovetsky: About.

574
00:55:28.770 --> 00:55:40.410
james murez: that nothing has been done since arbor the arbor event was the only event is such an incorrect statement it's unbelievable to me how you could say that.

575
00:55:40.950 --> 00:55:50.610
james murez: The farmers markets been going every week there's been no table there and that's been available to the outreach committee for three months, at least, since you took office in this term.

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james murez: The music at the pen mark part there's been no table by the wii and see it's a park the park would be more than happy to allow the dnc to set up a table and do outreach there.

577
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james murez: And they've been getting five to 600 people there every week for three months, I mean the outbreak has not been happening there.

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james murez: Sports day there was another event, I mean I heard you say earlier in this meeting that there have been no events since arbor and arbor was a great event but sports day was another event.

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james murez: So, to say that there are no events and that nothing's been happening is just totally false and and I don't want to go down that path, I think, spending a large a large amount of money.

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james murez: To do an event that is serving a very small segment of the Community at this late date of promotion yeah promotion is going to cost a lot.

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james murez: Because we haven't used any of the other venues, and any of the other opportunities that we have in the Community to do grassroots promotion.

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james murez: And by grassroots promotion, I mean if you went to music in the park on Wednesday night, if you went to jazz in the park on Sunday night, if you went to comedy in the park on Friday night.

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james murez: These are all events where material could be put out that said that we were going to have a Halloween party on the Pier on the 30th and you would get a huge audience, because the people that go to those events at penn mar.

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james murez: would be more than happy to take a piece of material and say oh look this might be fun.

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james murez: And it wouldn't cost us very much it would only cost us the printing now I did hear you say that you're going to spend $120 or you spend $120 for two years of those stickers.

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james murez: I also heard in our last important meeting that I believe it was NICO made the suggestion, we need to be creating a qr code.

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james murez: That that could be circulated throughout the Community as a generic piece, and to that effort, we just need to create an events page.

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james murez: on our website that would link to it and that's very easy to do.

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james murez: That would take a matter of minutes, we just need to have what we want to put on our events page and the qr code should always point to our events page.

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james murez: So if we're going to do any kind of promotional material it shouldn't be talking about any one individual event, it should just be talking about.

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james murez: Events and have a qr code on it, and our logo and our name on it put the URL that's fully spelled out so people know where they're going when they.

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james murez: Look at it and point that back to.

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james murez: The events page and then that will always be in sync and always be up to date.

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james murez: So if we're going to do any kind of printing I certainly would hope that that would be part of it, as far as the actual motion there's no real breakdown of the budget and I guess, I have a problem with that, where are we spending the money there's nothing was published.

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james murez: You know we're asking all committees to publish all of the documentation with the URL directly into the agendas and that didn't happen here, so we don't have any kind of a financial breakdown, which really does need to occur.

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james murez: It certainly would have to be there for the board if we're going to go forward with this, we would need to know the sources and we would not need to know what the amounts were that were being spent.

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james murez: To just give you an open blanket 1200 dollars or 20 $400 to me is not good business it's not being financially responsible and.

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james murez: your last comment about having $42,000 for the.

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james murez: Year and we're already in October, our year only started two months ago.

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james murez: So you know we have 10 more months that we have to get through that the October is not the end of the year it's the beginning of our year because they're not on a on a calendar year they're on a fiscal year.

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james murez: And so we have a long way to go, and we have springtime we have summer we have all kinds of things that you know if we wanted to do a holiday party it around the holiday season.

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james murez: These are all things that we're also going to want to have money for, so I think rushing this through there we are on the fifth of October and you want to do an event like this and two and a half weeks.

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james murez: I think the comment that was made that this is an event that has to be approved by the city, I think that you're really pushing it.

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james murez: And I would say let's do a much lower cost event, something that you just get this generic printed thing made up let's see what kind of success, we can have we still have a couple more wednesday's in the in the park where we could probably promote this and grassroots effort and.

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Ivan: The outreach committee.

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Ivan: For the outreach plan doesn't belong here.

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Ivan: way off the top the motion is whether lower the amount 1200 dollars.

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james murez: Well i've been i'm making i'm making Mike.

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Ivan: will get to the.

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james murez: South haven, you can make your comment, when i'm done with mine.

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i've.

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james murez: done with my comment.

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Ivan: box through the whole year we want, we.

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Andrea Boccaletti: See i'll give you i'll give you just a minute to responded with James to set.

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Sima Kostovetsky: So about the pen mar the pen Mara is a private institution, we could not promote anything having to do with pen mar I could not have an outreach table at the pen so that is a mistake.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Not.

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Ivan: All the.

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Daffodil Tyminski: guys let her speak she's like.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I was told I was told I could not promote.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Anything having to do with the vm see at the pen mar because it is a private event okay number one number two, the reason why we cannot do a Halloween party that was my own personal.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I didn't I left it up to the committee, the reason why we didn't want to do it on Halloween initially is because we didn't want to mess with everybody's plans.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Given that we only had three weeks to plan, something that we wanted to do for the Community.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I also know from my committee that I didn't have enough manpower that was like point B, because the bigger issue is that REX and parks.

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Sima Kostovetsky: doesn't have the resources, because they're already doing dia de Los muertos in Venice on the 31st so we didn't want to compete with two different events so we figured that we would rather do something small.

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Sima Kostovetsky: That was the emcee hosted and in partnership with la city.

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Sima Kostovetsky: which I just recently found out about had nothing to do with the summer and, by the way I did ask the board for help to start volunteering.

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Sima Kostovetsky: there's six people on my committee, we cannot always be at the farmers market and Jim, as you will know there's issues with the setup at the farmers market, given the hours and given the restrictions, so that all has to be worked out so.

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Sima Kostovetsky: there's a lot is that need to work Okay, we haven't had we haven't been able to promote anything, because nothing has been a government.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Other than sports day which we promoted and we were there there hasn't been anything that hasn't been private so we can't promote something that's private, so I completely disagree with you about the Panama, so I don't know, maybe I could have stood outside and handed something but.

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Andrea Boccaletti: let's not get too far.

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Sima Kostovetsky: away and here's the other piece of it we haven't had money approval for anything we haven't had a credit card we haven't had anything done until two weeks ago, so how can I promote anything if I have no money or credit card has been shut down since July.

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Andrea Boccaletti: that's true.

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Sima Kostovetsky: And our committee actually I have it in writing, our Committee said we'd rather do something small then keep waiting and keep waiting and keep waiting.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay.

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Andrea Boccaletti: So I have my hand raises for a second i'm not going to be long, I just have a couple issues, I mean.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I mean.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I don't know much about this event because I don't know it has it again like I haven't said hasn't been or Jim said hasn't been presented to us in a in a.

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Andrea Boccaletti: In a package, the way and I don't know who's going to handle other aspects of this of like the entertainment and all these things that I do feel like it's.

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Andrea Boccaletti: it's so soon to when it's going to happen and we're talking about less than three weeks from today.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And I just feel like it's a little rushed into spend 1200 dollars of our funds but and also, I mean do we do we know, do we know that we're allowed are we allowed to spend government city funds on a in person event now at the other lifted for that.

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Sima Kostovetsky: If they deny the money they denied the money we're still going to go ahead and do this under the wrecks and parks umbrella like.

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Sima Kostovetsky: When.

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Andrea Boccaletti: We can spend our we can spend our funds and then be denied by the city, then then we're in.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Violation I mean, I can still spend.

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Sima Kostovetsky: know they might not approve all the 1200 dollars, because, by the time I send like if you I have all the detailed information it's just everything came together in two days.

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Sima Kostovetsky: So I have to get I mean I have numbers, I know how much it costs to advertise the Argonaut.

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Sima Kostovetsky: But you know, and I know how much it costs to advertise the West side current So if you want a more detailed, because the boots the board still has to vote on the 1200 dollars.

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Sima Kostovetsky: So, by the time add calm comes, which is tonight you're going to get a detailed you know $300 for this $300 for that $300 for that you're going to get detailed amounts and, if I may.

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Sima Kostovetsky: And Ivan last year was different because we had to spend money on the election but we usually have a rollover guys there's a reason we usually have a $10,000 rollover.

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Sima Kostovetsky: i'm not suggesting listen, even if we spend 1200 dollars every month okay i'm not talking about outreach and talking about in general, even if we spend 1200 dollars every month we're still not at our budget.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Now we will be at our budget if it's been 1200 a month, but that's not the.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I just think the 1200 dollars, you know is is is.

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Sima Kostovetsky: is a legitimate.

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Sima Kostovetsky: amount to spend the last thing before I let it.

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speak.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I just think that why don't we do something in conjunction with parks and recreation, recreation parks and recreation with something you said they have something already.

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Andrea Boccaletti: planned for Halloween why don't we have a smaller project and not spend as much money.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And kind of piggyback on that.

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Sima Kostovetsky: has nothing to do with the Pier deal so smart justice, fairness, it has nothing to do with here.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, I just feel like this is a little my my My opinion is that it feels like a little rushed just to to approve the spending of all this money and we don't know exactly how everything's going to be handled let's look I didn't speak for a second and then.

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Ivan: Alright, so couple of things first wall, the event that the arbor had nothing to do with us it was put on by the candidates it wasn't put on by the V and see you know election money spent on it, and I hope outreach didn't spend any money on it was never approved.

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Ivan: It was a private event by the candidate, so please stop promoting That is something we did.

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Ivan: The the motion we're looking at right now is whether to lower the amount for 1200 dollars, I have some of the same concerns that some of you express, there is no budget.

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Ivan: And this is something that we do need to talk about it this keeps happening to me, I have no problem with the event itself, but you can't walk in here and you're fast for money i'm sorry, you were told this last.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Year i'm.

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Sima Kostovetsky: walking.

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Sima Kostovetsky: In here.

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Ivan: For hours ago we got.

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Ivan: A.

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row.

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Ivan: All right.

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Ivan: This is an event, it needs to be approved by this by city funding.

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Ivan: realize that the Board is not going to vote on this until what is it the 19th is the board meeting yeah so you don't even know if you're going to have this one to five days before your event.

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Ivan: Whatever we do whatever add time does it doesn't release the money.

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Andrea Boccaletti: that's a great point so yeah.

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Ivan: Okay, so this this this is way too soon.

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Ivan: You know this should have come to us last month i'm sorry only thought about it, two days ago but that's the problem.

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Ivan: We don't have a budget in front of us, which we need to have in writing, where you're going to spend this money and that's why you're running into these problems.

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Ivan: So I mean i'd have no problem with the 1200 dollars, you know moving down to 1200 dollars, but I can't see approving this without the paperwork, you have to come in with the paperwork and I don't want to start off a new board term having to deal with this again.

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Ivan: It will keep happening until you do your homework.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, thank you Ivan just quickly so definitely have something that quickly and then we'll we'll let him talk for another minute and then we're going to vote.

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Andrea Boccaletti: that's it oh.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah sorry yeah I mean, I agree with what everyone's saying I do get I just want to throw out there two concepts one sometimes it is really hard to spend a lot of time planning.

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Daffodil Tyminski: A budget for a specific event when you don't know if you're going to get approved because you can end up wasting a lot of time, you know tracking everything down and then you get there and it doesn't happen.

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Daffodil Tyminski: But I do think that if we can have the materials as being generic we do need them anyway.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We do need dnc flyers i've been through the storage area i've seen what we have.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Either what we have is out of date and wrong and we can't use it or the logos wrong or there's problems with almost everything, so we basically have no flyers um, so I do think we maybe we can come to some sort of hybrid approach here, where we approve.

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Daffodil Tyminski: It an expenditure to get materials out.

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Daffodil Tyminski: That can be sort of worked on in the meantime i'm sure most of the printers you work with would start printing without being fully paid right so seem I can get on that.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And, and the other just question I have is with respect to the qr code if we were to put a qr code on our materials can that.

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Daffodil Tyminski: qr code go to a site that changes so, for example, the qr code now could go to something that's promoting something on the 24th and then we change it, for, say, you know thanksgiving or something.

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james murez: The answer is yes.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so I mean if it's a living site, it might be a way to sort of be in part of the event.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Now, and also have the ability to use that stuff in the future, because the reality is yeah it all, should have been done earlier, but it is the the Pier I think is a Community event and I I do feel like the dnc is not showing up at a lot of Community events, so we should do it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: With respect to the pin bar and my understanding is is that it's a park and so it's we can't maybe be on Oscars property, but we can be there.

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Daffodil Tyminski: That was even.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Because we can't talk about other things that.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay well.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm happy to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I just didn't know that was even though.

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Daffodil Tyminski: you're right um.

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Andrea Boccaletti: So.

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james murez: My luck.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, James this quickly, and then we have been we have been comment on this.

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james murez: So I just wanted to comment on a few things a several months ago, when I mentioned to you about the pen, mark you asked me go, can we go over there and promote that I said, well, let me ask Oscar.

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james murez: And, and you said you wanted to promote the event and I asked asked her about it who's the owner of the restaurant called the pen mark and he said no, please don't promote my event on the dnc site, I have enough people coming already.

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james murez: However, just so you know it is a public park and when.

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james murez: Several of the different people were running for office they all set up tables in the park and they all had people handing I was there for one night.

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james murez: I know Eric and Laura was there for one night she had a table where she was handing out her flyers and information, it is a public park and the dnc could about a table in the public park.

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james murez: that's not the conversation that we had at the time the conversation that we had at the time was could the B and C promote.

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james murez: The pen mark at the park and I said, Oscar prefers we didn't and that was the conversation we have, as far as asking record parks, if we can have a table there I guarantee you 100% it's okay to do it.

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james murez: So that's still an opportunity that will reach five to 600 people this Wednesday tomorrow night now i'm keeping it small i'm all in favor of let's keep it small at the beginning, you know let's take baby steps.

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james murez: The the concept of having money to be able to do all of these things, five days before the actual event you're not allowed to uncover the money before the actual permission is granted by the board and you would have to get the city's approval to do an in person public event.

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james murez: Which they've made very clear we're only allowed to do zoom meetings so I don't know how they would react I don't know if the city.

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james murez: department of neighborhood empowerment has a different branch of government when it comes to approving budgets to be able to do events and until somebody looks into that.

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james murez: I don't see how we can even take a vote on until we know whether or not the city is going to allow me, we can put it on our agenda, but if we don't have confirmation.

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james murez: Prior to the board meeting that the city is going to approve it.

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james murez: We don't want to approve it on our board meeting it's just going to take time off and the amount of confusion and conversation that it's caused here I don't want to put it on the boards agenda, unless we have everything completely clear.

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james murez: And I think that's very important i'm completely in favor of what daffodil said let's do some flyers that are generic to talk about going to a.

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james murez: Dynamic page a page that we can update anytime we want.

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james murez: And and just have it be very you know check in for events at or something you know learn more about your Community visit Dennis neighborhood Council forward slash events.

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james murez: And can that would get everybody there, I think we can probably do that without having to get city approval to do printing I don't remember what the dollar amount was.

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james murez: But I believe that there is an expense amount that the credit cards allowed to spend and maybe you could just use those promotional materials and we wouldn't have to go through all of this other stuff that you're asking you on it has money spent on that we don't have a budget for.

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Ivan: That the Board has to approve it was no motion here to do that.

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james murez: Well, we can rewrite this motion Ivan to do that.

726
01:16:06.240 --> 01:16:06.420
No.

727
01:16:07.620 --> 01:16:09.150
Ivan: No, you can't Jim.

728
01:16:09.630 --> 01:16:17.190
james murez: We can rewrite this motion to approve generic materials to be used for events and that's all it would say.

729
01:16:17.460 --> 01:16:17.610
Then.

730
01:16:18.690 --> 01:16:20.490
Ivan: You can train through motion.

731
01:16:22.200 --> 01:16:23.190
james murez: If this motion.

732
01:16:24.960 --> 01:16:27.900
james murez: This motion talked about printing materials.

733
01:16:27.930 --> 01:16:30.420
Ivan: nor any mention it for an event.

734
01:16:31.770 --> 01:16:45.540
james murez: Right, so we can cut it down to cut it down and say that we're going to Ivan we can cut it down to say we're going to spend $300 to print material sporting event on the 24th and she can you know.

735
01:16:46.890 --> 01:16:48.720
Ivan: You can't do it it's a brown that's right.

736
01:16:49.590 --> 01:16:51.450
Ivan: You can't just write a new motion.

737
01:16:51.480 --> 01:16:52.440
From the for.

738
01:16:53.850 --> 01:16:53.970
Ivan: The.

739
01:16:54.420 --> 01:16:55.350
james murez: Third runner.

740
01:16:56.070 --> 01:16:56.640
james murez: The motion.

741
01:16:56.820 --> 01:17:04.200
Ivan: Come back next month with with a request to print flyers and do this other stuff i'm 100% behind that.

742
01:17:05.790 --> 01:17:06.360
james murez: We have a white.

743
01:17:10.320 --> 01:17:15.990
james murez: I have been why can't we reduce the budget to $400 because that's still within this many you.

744
01:17:15.990 --> 01:17:19.200
Ivan: can reduce the budget for whatever you want, but that's not.

745
01:17:19.260 --> 01:17:20.010
Ivan: The motion.

746
01:17:20.790 --> 01:17:21.450
demotion.

747
01:17:22.620 --> 01:17:26.400
james murez: What we just changed it to 20 from 24 to 12 and that was okay.

748
01:17:26.490 --> 01:17:28.350
Ivan: to lower the amount.

749
01:17:28.740 --> 01:17:29.850
james murez: But that's what I understand.

750
01:17:32.310 --> 01:17:32.670
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay well.

751
01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:34.410
Andrea Boccaletti: Can I ask a question.

752
01:17:35.610 --> 01:17:39.390
Andrea Boccaletti: Does does seem even need does the outreach Community even.

753
01:17:40.440 --> 01:17:46.110
Andrea Boccaletti: Committee even need approval to spend money for printed materials for general outreach.

754
01:17:47.190 --> 01:17:51.210
Andrea Boccaletti: credit card they do need approval from budget and finance.

755
01:17:51.930 --> 01:17:58.800
Ivan: Go by driven finance make recommendations to the board the board would need to approve it.

756
01:17:59.400 --> 01:18:04.950
Andrea Boccaletti: But if she just wanted to spend $300 on our own, without us approving emotion here for general.

757
01:18:04.980 --> 01:18:05.160
Our.

758
01:18:06.720 --> 01:18:08.790
Ivan: Money we can't just go out and spend it.

759
01:18:09.120 --> 01:18:11.190
Andrea Boccaletti: Because we've already budgeted for that committee.

760
01:18:11.220 --> 01:18:14.610
Ivan: To do matter it's still true items.

761
01:18:15.090 --> 01:18:16.410
Ivan: To go to the board.

762
01:18:16.890 --> 01:18:17.910
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay okay we're.

763
01:18:18.450 --> 01:18:26.550
Ivan: Side $15,000 the elections every items that I purchased had to go back before the board.

764
01:18:27.210 --> 01:18:28.230
Ivan: Okay we're proven.

765
01:18:29.190 --> 01:18:37.590
Andrea Boccaletti: Alright, so so again just end things here I mean it seemed to do you see and i'll give you 30 seconds okay just and then we'll wrap this up and take a vote.

766
01:18:38.610 --> 01:18:45.840
Sima Kostovetsky: Okay, all I have to say is that I didn't have a meeting with parks and recreation until yesterday.

767
01:18:46.320 --> 01:19:01.350
Sima Kostovetsky: i'm sick and tired of waiting, we have sat around for two years without a vn see presence for something that we have done outside of the pen mar outside of our gym you're right.

768
01:19:01.770 --> 01:19:11.910
Sima Kostovetsky: I misunderstood, I thought, because it was a pen Mars sponsored event by the private business that we couldn't have a presence there, so you're right, I must have misunderstood that.

769
01:19:12.930 --> 01:19:13.560
Sima Kostovetsky: So.

770
01:19:14.580 --> 01:19:21.000
Sima Kostovetsky: you're right in that sense, I just think look the reason why we wanted to do this in October is because.

771
01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:21.120
it's.

772
01:19:22.950 --> 01:19:24.360
Sima Kostovetsky: And we're not going to be able to do.

773
01:19:24.510 --> 01:19:25.890
Andrea Boccaletti: Things outside.

774
01:19:26.280 --> 01:19:40.680
Sima Kostovetsky: So sometimes we do have to rush things, and if you want an itemized budget I outlined what we are spending money on we're spending money on cookies which I priced out they've been raised in years.

775
01:19:41.580 --> 01:19:41.940
Why.

776
01:19:44.880 --> 01:19:45.900
Sima Kostovetsky: Why am I spending money on.

777
01:19:45.900 --> 01:19:46.380
cookies.

778
01:19:47.910 --> 01:19:49.170
Ivan: that's what the budget is.

779
01:19:49.170 --> 01:19:53.790
Sima Kostovetsky: For $280 $180.

780
01:19:54.120 --> 01:19:54.750
Sima Kostovetsky: To turn it.

781
01:19:55.620 --> 01:19:57.360
Ivan: On your emotional stuff.

782
01:19:57.780 --> 01:20:00.450
Sima Kostovetsky: Okay $280 on cookies.

783
01:20:01.410 --> 01:20:09.750
Sima Kostovetsky: sticks hundred and $20 on Argonaut and West side current $120 on stickers.

784
01:20:10.470 --> 01:20:10.830
Okay.

785
01:20:12.270 --> 01:20:19.980
Sima Kostovetsky: And I haven't the lawn signs the last time actually def can we reuse the lawn signs.

786
01:20:21.570 --> 01:20:24.360
Ivan: um yeah I mean yeah.

787
01:20:24.780 --> 01:20:28.800
Daffodil Tyminski: We can I send you the photo that we had from.

788
01:20:31.710 --> 01:20:42.120
Sima Kostovetsky: origin on the phone on the lawn signs down the one thing we need to change on the back, we just have to change something at the bottom, so I actually thought that we could do stickers listen weinstein's.

789
01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:43.860
50 line science.

790
01:20:45.480 --> 01:20:46.980
Sima Kostovetsky: measuring the Ad dollars.

791
01:20:48.240 --> 01:20:52.260
Ivan: One time to about voting 20 on both.

792
01:20:54.120 --> 01:20:59.430
Daffodil Tyminski: sides in the storage area and they write about eight to $10 it like seven to $10 apiece.

793
01:21:00.060 --> 01:21:09.690
Sima Kostovetsky: Right, no, no they're more they're more they're about so basically $280 for lawn signs that's what we paid the last time but.

794
01:21:09.720 --> 01:21:11.460
Daffodil Tyminski: I don't think we hadn't just.

795
01:21:12.810 --> 01:21:13.200
Daffodil Tyminski: Probably.

796
01:21:14.760 --> 01:21:15.150
Daffodil Tyminski: again.

797
01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:25.050
Andrea Boccaletti: We have to wrap this up, I mean, I think the real issue is here is that the board cannot approve this until five days before the event that's that's where.

798
01:21:25.110 --> 01:21:25.590
Andrea Boccaletti: we're knocking.

799
01:21:26.430 --> 01:21:33.990
Sima Kostovetsky: everything up and if the board approves it we have we are able to spend that money.

800
01:21:34.590 --> 01:21:35.460
Andrea Boccaletti: In five days.

801
01:21:37.680 --> 01:21:38.700
Ivan: Then you have to go.

802
01:21:40.170 --> 01:21:40.770
Andrea Boccaletti: For the border.

803
01:21:41.160 --> 01:21:46.110
Ivan: They have to approve the event that you need a 30 day lead time for that.

804
01:21:46.590 --> 01:21:47.610
Sima Kostovetsky: But it's not enough.

805
01:21:50.250 --> 01:21:50.970
Sima Kostovetsky: We have.

806
01:21:51.150 --> 01:21:56.580
Sima Kostovetsky: People we are under the umbrella of that city of La.

807
01:21:57.090 --> 01:21:57.330
So.

808
01:22:00.150 --> 01:22:00.810
Sima Kostovetsky: They don't have a.

809
01:22:03.480 --> 01:22:21.150
james murez: timeout timeout guys you guys aren't hearing each other, let me just interrupt so you can both hear the same thing after the Board has approved the budget, you have to submit that budget to the city for approval to spend.

810
01:22:21.750 --> 01:22:22.320
james murez: To think.

811
01:22:22.500 --> 01:22:33.210
james murez: That is going to happen within five days, you will get a response back and still have time to start spending it after they have approved it.

812
01:22:34.980 --> 01:22:37.500
james murez: I think you're dreaming, and I think i've been is correct and.

813
01:22:40.410 --> 01:22:41.310
Sima Kostovetsky: We need to look at.

814
01:22:42.540 --> 01:22:43.170
Sima Kostovetsky: Wait wait.

815
01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:54.840
james murez: hold on if the board approves the budget on Tuesday the 19th and you get it into the city on Wednesday.

816
01:22:56.100 --> 01:22:56.940
james murez: The 20th.

817
01:22:58.350 --> 01:22:59.850
james murez: value only have.

818
01:23:01.020 --> 01:23:16.110
james murez: How many days before your event four days and you're expecting the city to respond to you within four days and, mind you, the fourth day is a Saturday so it's really Monday.

819
01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:19.590
james murez: it's already past the event.

820
01:23:21.540 --> 01:23:22.350
Sima Kostovetsky: So, because.

821
01:23:23.610 --> 01:23:25.050
james murez: it's not going to happen that quickly.

822
01:23:25.200 --> 01:23:27.630
Sima Kostovetsky: point of information point of information.

823
01:23:28.830 --> 01:23:40.170
Sima Kostovetsky: I was under the so the way that I understood it so you're saying that there's a second process where the where the city goes through each line item, and then they approve it.

824
01:23:40.770 --> 01:23:41.550
Ivan: Yes, you know.

825
01:23:42.480 --> 01:23:52.470
Sima Kostovetsky: yeah no my understanding that if it's under $1,000, then we have the right to use the credit card after the board approves it.

826
01:23:54.660 --> 01:23:55.140
james murez: Not.

827
01:23:55.320 --> 01:23:56.700
Ivan: Not for an event.

828
01:23:59.280 --> 01:24:02.760
james murez: That would be for your flyers that would be for your capital expenses.

829
01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:03.390
james murez: I don't write.

830
01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:08.490
james murez: For any then they have to approve any event I remember that from last last cycle.

831
01:24:11.280 --> 01:24:12.090
james murez: So if you wanted.

832
01:24:12.450 --> 01:24:12.870
Andrea Boccaletti: Some credit.

833
01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:18.000
Andrea Boccaletti: The credit card, you can be used for an expense up to $1,000 that's what I know.

834
01:24:18.330 --> 01:24:20.460
Andrea Boccaletti: We right over but.

835
01:24:20.580 --> 01:24:24.570
Andrea Boccaletti: But I think this does need approval, and I would have to send a board Action Committee.

836
01:24:25.890 --> 01:24:26.670
Andrea Boccaletti: form.

837
01:24:26.790 --> 01:24:27.660
Andrea Boccaletti: To the city.

838
01:24:28.050 --> 01:24:29.820
Andrea Boccaletti: For the approval of these funds.

839
01:24:31.110 --> 01:24:32.220
Ivan: So what they do is.

840
01:24:32.280 --> 01:24:38.490
Ivan: They look to see whether it was approved by the board and and what the date was for what the amount was.

841
01:24:39.510 --> 01:24:42.930
Ivan: that's that's just the process see money and you should know that already.

842
01:24:43.320 --> 01:24:44.370
Sima Kostovetsky: Wait no because.

843
01:24:45.540 --> 01:24:45.960
james murez: We don't have.

844
01:24:49.140 --> 01:25:01.050
Sima Kostovetsky: any real money, so I don't remember that it has to be you know, a line item every you know, every time I thought that, under my jurisdiction, I can spend money.

845
01:25:02.640 --> 01:25:03.510
Ivan: Especially.

846
01:25:03.660 --> 01:25:06.510
Sima Kostovetsky: under the umbrella of a city organization.

847
01:25:07.950 --> 01:25:15.750
james murez: So, again, I would suggest, at this point is you come up with a real budget for the printed material that you want to create.

848
01:25:16.680 --> 01:25:30.390
james murez: And and submit that to the budget and Finance Committee, and because we want to have it done fairly quickly, maybe the budget and Finance Committee can meet a second time after it submitted.

849
01:25:31.320 --> 01:25:41.460
james murez: And, and we could still do that before this month's board meeting and we could get it onto the ABC COM agenda which doesn't have to go out until Friday, so that means you'd have to still have a meeting.

850
01:25:42.390 --> 01:25:58.920
james murez: And and submit it later this week and get it onto the Ad COM agenda, and then you could get your flyers and and, whatever your stickers all print it up the other stuff having any bad spending money on an event I don't see how it can happen that quickly.

851
01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:01.020
Sima Kostovetsky: That point of information.

852
01:26:04.020 --> 01:26:04.770
Andrea Boccaletti: information.

853
01:26:07.170 --> 01:26:15.450
Sima Kostovetsky: And this is like using your guys's expertise with the with the city, if I went back and asked.

854
01:26:15.960 --> 01:26:32.430
Sima Kostovetsky: REX and parks, if we could move up the event by a week gym which would actually go back to your to the 31st do you think we'd have a better chance of getting the city to approve the line items because we'd have more time.

855
01:26:33.960 --> 01:26:34.380
Well then.

856
01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:40.200
james murez: Then, then you would still have more time, but it's not clear if they would be able to do it that quickly.

857
01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:45.120
Sima Kostovetsky: But you think that we would have a better shot.

858
01:26:47.940 --> 01:26:48.570
james murez: um.

859
01:26:51.660 --> 01:26:52.290
james murez: I don't know.

860
01:26:52.890 --> 01:26:53.550
james murez: I mean I.

861
01:26:53.970 --> 01:26:57.630
james murez: i've been has said several times that they want 30 days, whether or not.

862
01:26:58.680 --> 01:27:04.260
james murez: We could get them to rush it through or not is a whole nother I don't know.

863
01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:06.780
james murez: I have no idea.

864
01:27:07.350 --> 01:27:07.890
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay well.

865
01:27:08.760 --> 01:27:13.710
Sima Kostovetsky: going to have a second meeting, then I can price everything out and that would really help us, because I do.

866
01:27:13.710 --> 01:27:18.120
Sima Kostovetsky: think that I think there'd be a lot of disappointment if we weren't able to pull this off.

867
01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:19.890
james murez: I can tell you.

868
01:27:21.960 --> 01:27:25.110
Ivan: This loan by your committee didn't even meet.

869
01:27:25.560 --> 01:27:34.350
james murez: I can, I can tell you that daffodil had to drop off of this because she had another meeting we're losing quorum.

870
01:27:34.440 --> 01:27:37.710
Andrea Boccaletti: And I have to, I have to leave in a few minutes myself.

871
01:27:38.070 --> 01:27:38.370
Please.

872
01:27:39.780 --> 01:27:40.590
james murez: Let me just finished.

873
01:27:41.070 --> 01:27:43.620
Ivan: A motion on the floor and then another motion.

874
01:27:43.770 --> 01:27:45.030
Ivan: dad we take a vote.

875
01:27:45.390 --> 01:27:50.520
james murez: daffodil did mention that we could have a second meeting, if we can sort this out.

876
01:27:51.210 --> 01:27:53.070
Ivan: Sorry that's down the road.

877
01:27:53.340 --> 01:27:55.800
Ivan: That can we take a vote on the radio before you lose.

878
01:27:56.070 --> 01:27:57.120
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, so that would.

879
01:27:57.150 --> 01:27:58.740
Andrea Boccaletti: The vote is to.

880
01:28:00.360 --> 01:28:00.780
Andrea Boccaletti: be taking.

881
01:28:02.610 --> 01:28:08.520
Andrea Boccaletti: The vote now is for the amendment to change the amount of 1200 dollars for this event on October 24.

882
01:28:09.930 --> 01:28:11.340
Andrea Boccaletti: let's see we have not okay.

883
01:28:12.450 --> 01:28:12.990
james murez: Although.

884
01:28:13.860 --> 01:28:18.540
Andrea Boccaletti: row cover yeah right okay good Sema.

885
01:28:19.170 --> 01:28:19.710
Yes.

886
01:28:21.390 --> 01:28:21.840
Andrea Boccaletti: Ivan.

887
01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:24.510
Ivan: Yes.

888
01:28:25.440 --> 01:28:26.280
Well, Jim.

889
01:28:31.470 --> 01:28:31.860
Andrea Boccaletti: Jim.

890
01:28:32.670 --> 01:28:36.000
james murez: i'm trying to understand what the actual processes that we are.

891
01:28:36.300 --> 01:28:40.710
Ivan: going to be another vote after this this slide the dollar amount.

892
01:28:42.240 --> 01:28:42.510
james murez: than.

893
01:28:42.690 --> 01:28:42.930
This.

894
01:28:44.070 --> 01:28:44.400
This is.

895
01:28:45.570 --> 01:28:48.000
james murez: This is only to reduce the dollar amount and i'm saying no.

896
01:28:48.660 --> 01:28:51.030
Andrea Boccaletti: To reduce the dollar amount okay okay.

897
01:28:53.850 --> 01:28:56.430
Andrea Boccaletti: But then we're taking another vote i'm sorry i'm now i'm gonna.

898
01:28:57.720 --> 01:28:58.020
james murez: Have.

899
01:28:58.980 --> 01:29:01.530
Ivan: To the for what the original.

900
01:29:02.010 --> 01:29:12.540
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, however, today I will vote yes, so we have 310 okay now.

901
01:29:14.130 --> 01:29:15.360
Andrea Boccaletti: move to take the vote.

902
01:29:16.890 --> 01:29:18.720
Andrea Boccaletti: I can take another road called vote right, this is.

903
01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:19.290
Andrea Boccaletti: To approve.

904
01:29:19.980 --> 01:29:20.790
Andrea Boccaletti: The event.

905
01:29:21.690 --> 01:29:24.300
Ivan: Not proof to the motion as amended.

906
01:29:25.200 --> 01:29:31.530
Andrea Boccaletti: To prove to approve them motion as amended for this October for the 1200 dollars for this October 24.

907
01:29:31.950 --> 01:29:32.370
event.

908
01:29:33.780 --> 01:29:41.520
Sima Kostovetsky: i'm not as sorry guys point of information I i'm not i'm a little bit confused i'm not asking for the approval of the event.

909
01:29:44.460 --> 01:29:45.120
For this event.

910
01:29:46.140 --> 01:29:47.460
Sima Kostovetsky: Asking for the money.

911
01:29:48.060 --> 01:29:48.270
Right.

912
01:29:49.560 --> 01:29:50.010
Sima Kostovetsky: Right.

913
01:29:50.760 --> 01:29:55.860
james murez: Right you're asking you're asking to have the approval of the motion that you put on the floor.

914
01:29:57.120 --> 01:30:01.920
james murez: right to have money to have money for any bed to be spent on the things that you wanted to spend it on.

915
01:30:02.310 --> 01:30:05.280
Sima Kostovetsky: Okay, so what was the first motion about.

916
01:30:05.970 --> 01:30:07.200
Andrea Boccaletti: to present the amendment.

917
01:30:08.400 --> 01:30:08.730
Sima Kostovetsky: Oh there.

918
01:30:10.710 --> 01:30:11.820
Andrea Boccaletti: Are 1200 dollars, we.

919
01:30:11.820 --> 01:30:20.910
Ivan: Did now the mountain is the original motion for 1200 but changes for 1200 dollars.

920
01:30:20.970 --> 01:30:28.350
Andrea Boccaletti: that's been approved now we're taking a vote, this is a vote to approve the the.

921
01:30:29.640 --> 01:30:39.240
Andrea Boccaletti: Amended emotion for 1200 dollars to be spent for this event on October 24 by the edge committee.

922
01:30:39.990 --> 01:30:40.380
Right.

923
01:30:42.420 --> 01:30:46.650
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, so take a roll call vote Sema.

924
01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:49.410
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, Ivan.

925
01:30:50.130 --> 01:30:50.550
know.

926
01:30:51.570 --> 01:30:52.140
Andrea Boccaletti: James.

927
01:30:52.560 --> 01:30:53.040
know.

928
01:30:55.200 --> 01:30:57.030
Andrea Boccaletti: And I both know as well.

929
01:30:58.440 --> 01:31:04.200
Andrea Boccaletti: So that's one in favor three against zero abstaining.

930
01:31:06.180 --> 01:31:07.290
james murez: From the motion pails.

931
01:31:07.590 --> 01:31:08.700
Andrea Boccaletti: The motion fails right.

932
01:31:10.590 --> 01:31:12.810
james murez: Okay let's get back to our regular agenda.

933
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james murez: And then we tell you whether or not their space for another meeting this week or not.

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Andrea Boccaletti: i'm going to have to go, because I have a work commitment right now that I am.

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Andrea Boccaletti: dangerously close to two missing.

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james murez: We have any more items on.

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Andrea Boccaletti: We don't we just have a general category here to approve expenditures for October and November.

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Andrea Boccaletti: So this is where this is where we could.

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Andrea Boccaletti: insert something to this extent for general promotional.

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Andrea Boccaletti: materials to be spent by outreach committee.

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james murez: So why don't we just make a mean i'm just going to throw this out there, what if we were to make a motion to say let's approve $500 to get promotional material prepared and.

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james murez: Then to could be maybe.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Six 600 600.

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Andrea Boccaletti: That, again we don't know we don't know what this.

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Ivan: Promotional yeah what what is the spend it on.

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james murez: Right, so what what we would need what we would need to do is have a second meeting still this week.

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james murez: yeah yeah and then we could discuss it there Helen has her hand up also I think Ellen just go ahead and speak our.

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Helen Fallon: know this Dome even if.

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Helen Fallon: You had a second meeting you still don't have approval of this event I just don't understand.

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james murez: You don't have approval event we're just talking about getting flyers or stickers made.

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Helen Fallon: up right.

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Helen Fallon: The Board still has to approve the flyer.

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Helen Fallon: By the word.

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james murez: That would still have Helen that would still happen, we would still have it reviewed at the board, we would still review it a dad pump.

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Helen Fallon: yeah so I mean what's the rush, I mean you can kind of.

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Okay.

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james murez: um.

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james murez: i'm done.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I agree, I feel like it's good to sounds like it's all a little too rushed, and we need to have this come from from the outreach committee the the you know the definitive breakdowns of what.

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Andrea Boccaletti: I always.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Have the definitive breakdowns.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Oh, we need this is three day notice to post, the meeting to have the breakdown of the.

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Andrea Boccaletti: break the breakdowns were to.

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Andrea Boccaletti: promote this event that we just.

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Sima Kostovetsky: know now Jim is talking about doing you know.

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james murez: Real.

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Sima Kostovetsky: For five or $600 for the general printing.

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james murez: it's just generic but your.

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event.

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james murez: No it's not.

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Sima Kostovetsky: No he's talking about actually approving something that would bet you know that would benefit for let's say the next six months that's generic so it's updating our lawn signs it's updating our flyers and.

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Sima Kostovetsky: actually asked for more because we're.

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Ivan: going on.

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For.

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james murez: For what purpose Andreas let me, let me just tell you what what I heard at the last board meeting and everybody said that's a great idea.

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james murez: Was let's get a generic qr code out into the Community, something that is on a printed material, something that we can leave in storefronts something that we can leave.

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james murez: At an event tables that basically just says here's what's happening in the dnc and and that would be fairly easy for us to do it doesn't take a lot of artwork we have basically all the artwork.

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james murez: I volunteered to create the qr code and to create the webpage so I don't mind doing that.

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james murez: without doing that we were the only thing we need to do is get the approval of the board to do the actual physical printing of these generic documents, the part that goes on the website is free, because it's something that the outreach committee just does as our normal thing.

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james murez: One of the things that i've already put in an agenda request to the web hosting company to what's the name of them corner web corner and is to be able to be able to link directly to agendas.

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james murez: from within the new page that we're yet to create so if we had an events page, it would list all of the upcoming agendas and people would see that automatically on that page.

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james murez: And that's something that I already put in last week, so I mean hopefully that will happen fairly soon so yeah any printed material.

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james murez: Would point to with a qr code that if somebody points their phone at it, it would take them directly to that page that would show all of the agendas and it would show whatever events we were trying to promote.

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Ivan: So that's all it's going to.

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james murez: Do it's very, very generic it's not designed for any one individually event I don't have a problem spending money and if it's five or $600 I don't think that that's an issue.

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james murez: And, but it's not on the agenda today, so we can't do it, we would have to have the second meeting, we would have to have a breakdown.

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james murez: Of what each of these things is going to cost, we probably would want to have a piece of artwork that we could display so we could show what it was actually going to look like, so we can remove the question of.

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james murez: What are you going to be spending it on this way, we could show what we were going to be spending it on, and I think we could still do that if you guys, want to have a meeting later this week, we need three days.

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Sima Kostovetsky: The artwork that quickly that's not that's not you know.

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Sima Kostovetsky: it's not a big deal to do the.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Unless we just use this.

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Ivan: right we adjourn now.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

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Ivan: would have been great getting ready to leave and.

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Andrea Boccaletti: We will talk offline then, if we can create this meeting and have it happened before before i'd kind.

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Okay.

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Ivan: All right, see.

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james murez: You Thank you.

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Andrea Boccaletti: 1034 weeks during the meeting okay.

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Ivan: Okay Sema.

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Ivan: i've been trying to reach her I need to talk to you about a couple of things where.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I have an 11am do you want to talk now.

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Ivan: Oh well, he's going to cut it off.

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yeah.

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Sima Kostovetsky: i'll call you i'll call you.

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Ivan: Right now.