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Daffodil Tyminski: hi guys.

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james murez: Good evening.

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james murez: So definitely i'll take role.

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james murez: If you want, or you can.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Totally up to you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I started writing down the list, but i'm happy to um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I have.

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james murez: I have a list so it's not that part's not a problem.

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james murez: And then.

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james murez: When Melissa gets here she can pick it up off the video recording or chuck will let her do it at the first roll call meeting.

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james murez: So she has she's going to need a copy that you know as we go through this.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

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james murez: just trying to see I also need to make you co host in case something were to happen, and I got cut off so it'll come in and second.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Did you see did you see she sent you a Google Doc so you could type right into it.

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james murez: Melissa did.

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james murez: yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: No, no, no.

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james murez: Do you have that Google Doc, then you can do it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah she's just added to both of us, but.

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james murez: I didn't know i'm i'm.

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james murez: trying to get this up and and I haven't.

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Daffodil Tyminski: That, let me do it.

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james murez: yeah i'm in zoom at this point i'm in zoom in.

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james murez: zoom.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Now it's hard to do both.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Bringing my computer here, I think.

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Ivan.

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james murez: Ivan i'm allowing you to talk, do you want to come up as a panelist.

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james murez: Ivan.

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unmute yourself.

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Ivan: Yes.

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james murez: Is that why your hand was up.

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james murez: yeah okay.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Jim I also want to practice sharing my screen real quick.

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james murez: yeah I haven't gotten that far yet we'll do that in one second.

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james murez: Let me just let me get all the board members in here because.

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james murez: That takes a little bit, and I see monique is here, but officer contracts and we'll let her talk as soon as we get this meeting started, we want to respect the lapd time schedule.

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james murez: Jim rob.

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james murez: yeah she just sent me a text saying, she sent me a template Okay, so that i'll let you deal with that.

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james murez: Okay.

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james murez: hold on, I want to turn off my phone.

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james murez: that's so funny I have zoom on my phone and it just made a weird noise that I didn't even know it could.

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james murez: Okay, who else still needs to be promoted.

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james murez: Robert timbo I did that once already, but it didn't move, let me try again.

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james murez: Working that time yep there you go.

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Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: Okay, but I couldn't get my audio going on the other, computer.

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james murez: Oh here's NICO.

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james murez: Okay, so I just said, sharing to all panelists and.

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james murez: All panelists can cut off somebody else's sharing, but hopefully nobody does that.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hi guys.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hi I have to do a work thing I can't talk at the moment, but can we talk tomorrow.

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Okay, have a good night okay all right.

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james murez: So i'm trying to elevate.

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james murez: Elizabeth and it's not letting me.

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james murez: Know i'm promoting you to.

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james murez: Co host.

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james murez: and see if you can bring in Elizabeth i've tried three or four times it's just not doing it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i've got Clark.

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Daffodil Tyminski: is lost Liz there, she is.

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james murez: Okay she's here now okay great.

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james murez: That was the only one, I was able to so far.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Is we are.

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james murez: We have a quorum um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We have a quorum, I just want to make sure if there's anyone else.

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james murez: yeah I don't see anybody else in the attendees list.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We are missing a few folks.

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james murez: Well we'll just have to watch for them and not to put their hand up when they get here.

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james murez: I see dexter's here, it looks like probably from councilman.

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james murez: barton's office.

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james murez: And they see.

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Daffodil Tyminski: say to Sandra.

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james murez: Alright well let's get started.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Alright, you want to call them in order and i'll take attendance.

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james murez: yeah give me one half of one second 704 and I will officially call this meeting of the Venice neighborhood Council on September 21 to order.

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james murez: When it's being recorded so.

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james murez: Besides, our normal good behavior let's be extra good behavior because this is going to be the replay.

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james murez: Okay um.

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james murez: let's get started, I need to find this.

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james murez: In my system here.

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Are my.

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james murez: trying to find the agenda everyone give me one second I had it before.

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james murez: We go into one of 11.

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To 11 here we go.

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james murez: Now to the zoom meeting and share the screen.

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james murez: Here we go.

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james murez: Okay, so now we're on to approval of the can everybody see that.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We need to call the order to roll call Jim.

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james murez: Well, we need to call the right roll call go ahead, no called.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Paper James mijares.

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james murez: Yes, here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Definitely minsky's here, Melissa diner I believe his absence.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Andre vocal eddie.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And Andre if you're here I don't see you but raise your hand okay Andrew is not here vicki holiday.

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vicki halliday: Here see my.

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Daffodil Tyminski: close up ski.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Here ELISE Bukovsky.

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Alix Gucovsky: here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: alley been.

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Daffodil Tyminski: alley I can see you.

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Alley Bean: Here sorry.

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Daffodil Tyminski: No worries and hold on one second I just saw my bravo pop in.

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james murez: Why did I get him and you keep calling roll.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'm Clark Brown.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Your Elizabeth clay.

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here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: cj Cole.

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Daffodil Tyminski: See here, are you here.

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james murez: I haven't promoted or I didn't see her but i'll look again.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And just hold on one second here.

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james murez: If anybody arrives late, please.

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james murez: raise your hand if you think you need to be a panelist ready, if you want to be a panelist you have to.

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james murez: raise yeah but I don't know if you want to be a panelist or not.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oliver freeze.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Bruno Hernandez.

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Daffodil Tyminski: pylon.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I stand Mohammed.

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Daffodil Tyminski: and looking I do not see Stan here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: in attendance.

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james murez: yeah I don't see me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so mark is not present, Jim rob.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Your NICO retirement.

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i'm here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Jason sugars.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Here, Robert tiptoe.

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Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And soledad or Sarah yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

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Jason Sugars: Mike.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'll forget about me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh i'm so sorry Mike you don't I saw you Mike bravo.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry, I called you just before you came in.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And i'm Kim rob your microphone is really low you might want to turn it up as we go.

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Daffodil Tyminski: All right, you might have the attendance list you can move on to the next item.

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james murez: um.

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james murez: Now we're we're saying sharing screens that was getting complicated.

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james murez: can be one second.

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james murez: Why is it not coming this full screen there you go.

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james murez: Okay, so we're on to we did roll call we're on to approval of board minutes.

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james murez: Did everybody get a chance to review these.

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james murez: Oh anybody anybody nobody else has her hand up.

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Alley Bean: I just wonder, do we need to approve the agenda.

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james murez: Now we're not we're not doing that anymore.

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Alley Bean: Oh, I didn't know that.

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Alley Bean: yeah.

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james murez: Sorry, that that was an extra technical issue that had been introduced to previous.

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james murez: revision, and it was recommended that we just dropped that, all together, we can drop that from committees to for all your committee chairs the approval of the agenda doesn't need to be approved it's just something that was being done in the past Clark go ahead, you have your hand up.

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clark brown: Because Why are these the July 20 minutes is supposed to be August minutes.

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james murez: Good question what happens when I click on that file.

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clark brown: You get to drive 20 minutes.

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james murez: Good question.

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james murez: not sure.

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james murez: i'm.

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james murez: I believe that the August ones were posted well we're going to happen, they think because we've you're right we've already seen the July ones we saw those last month that was an error.

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james murez: That was definitely an error okay so we'll have to come back to.

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james murez: The approval of the August minutes in.

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james murez: October and then we'll have to do the September and the ones that does both of them at the same time.

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james murez: Okay, so everybody has another full month to be able to review those.

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james murez: Thank you Clark.

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james murez: Presidents report and announcements um so my report is going to I think what i'm going to do is i'm going to postpone the.

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james murez: The portion of my report that has that's going to be coming in down here under government reports, I think, maybe that well I don't know I can do it now it doesn't matter.

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james murez: It was going to have do with with the redistricting the ad hoc committee and I wanted to share with you.

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james murez: The progress that we've made on that, so let me do this, I would like the person that I appointed to.

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james murez: deal with that and that was you know what, let me just stop for a second.

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james murez: Think before I give this report because lapd is here, I promised that oC JC are also cgm promoting you.

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james murez: Somebody want to mark cj as President.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I will do that.

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james murez: I would like to I think let lapd make their report, because I promised that I would let them in and out as early as possible, I believe today's also officer can terraces day off so i'm going to promote her to a panelist.

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james murez: let's see if she comes up yep there we go.

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james murez: So officer can cherish, you have the microphone, you have the floor let's let's let lapd make the report now and then we'll get back to the normally scheduled agenda after she's finished go ahead money.

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james murez: unmute yourself you're on a cell phone star nine.

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SLO Monique Contreras: hi everyone, good evening it's officer controllers Thank you so much, Jim for allowing me to go so just really, really brief update.

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SLO Monique Contreras: So overall, there has been a decrease in crime on ocean front walk.

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SLO Monique Contreras: The residents specifically friends of Venice has been very informative and letting us know of any tense or bulky items and things that pop up on any quality of life issues.

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SLO Monique Contreras: We do have our officers every morning do a 10 count and a bulky item count as well, just so that we have an awareness of what's going on.

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SLO Monique Contreras: I continue to do my foot beats with department of mental health once a week and with St Joseph every other week, we have a case conferencing call.

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SLO Monique Contreras: So I always like to remind everybody anybody if there's someone specific and it doesn't have to be an ocean for a walk that needs mental health services or outreach and you're having trouble getting in contact with the outreach workers, you can also let me know.

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SLO Monique Contreras: We have officers and REC and parks and sanitation doing two nights a week again of overnight cleanups and enforcement and we always have our Friday operation healthy streets that take place as well.

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SLO Monique Contreras: um another thing that I wanted to bring up is that we have started comprehensive cleanings at least CD 11 has in the abridge home zone.

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SLO Monique Contreras: So you'll often see lapd paired up with sanitation and Lhasa specifically like third and rows and Hampton.

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SLO Monique Contreras: And plans to work on the duty lot and so forth, and that has been happening, probably for the past, I know, three weeks or so now.

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SLO Monique Contreras: And then just a reminder for everybody that please always reach out to me to give me an awareness of what's happening in the area.

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SLO Monique Contreras: Do not use me as your immediate or 911 call even nine non emergency to respond.

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SLO Monique Contreras: Because my phone number and my email address does not get monitored on my days off, so I just want to make sure that I do have an awareness of what's going on, and that if there's any long term issues i'm here to help you with that.

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SLO Monique Contreras: And that's pretty much it unless you have any questions for me.

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james murez: So we don't normally take questions on presentation, so I thank you very much for coming this evening and I don't believe there were any written submissions of questions sent to the board ahead of time, so you're free and clear to go Thank you again for making it this evening.

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SLO Monique Contreras: Thank you everyone have a good night take care.

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SLO Monique Contreras: bye bye hi.

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james murez: Okay, so let's go back to our regularly scheduled meeting the President was giving his report that's me.

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james murez: The.

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james murez: Things that I wanted to report on, I want to introduce Alan parsons who is.

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james murez: The person that's in charge or the Chair, I guess, I don't know if it's called a chair when it's a.

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james murez: Task Force, but the person that I appointed to the task force to to head up the redistricting I do want to make sure that everybody is aware of the fact the redistricting the.

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james murez: Council districts is going on, I did hear last night in the Rack meeting that.

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james murez: The maps have been released, that the first round of draft draft maps for the new districts have been released CD five which is directly to our East that's the westwood village area.

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james murez: what's being proposed right now is a fairly substantial change to that Council district where they're going to stop in mulholland they used to go over the hill into the.

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james murez: First part of the valley and they're talking now about stopping that at mulholland and stretching it out farther to the east.

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james murez: The the CD 11, which is our district council district 11 seems like it's pretty much going to stay intact, basically, the way it is today.

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james murez: with very little change, but this is only in the first draft and alan's going to go into more about what we want to do as far as outreach to being able to share a message with the redistricting Commission.

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james murez: And a survey that he's working on with Sema to get more Community involvement, the only other thing I want to mention to everyone is this Saturday, is the neighborhood Congress.

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james murez: meeting, which will be held I don't know seem or you can also be talking about that.

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james murez: Though yes just shake your head.

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james murez: Well, even if we don't participate everybody's allowed to go and participate as individuals, so there is.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I am happy to promote.

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Sima Kostovetsky: That one so i'll put that up one side, now that you've said that.

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james murez: So there is a neighborhood of.

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james murez: Congress also last night in Rack, there were.

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james murez: A couple of motions that I want to share with everybody, because we want to get early notified early warning on them, one of the Rack motions that has not been adopted and it's not being extended sort of surprised me.

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james murez: is being able to work from home trying to put forward and statement that we believe that it's a good idea to allow people to to spend more time working from home at this point, I believe it's died, but.

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james murez: We might be able to to revitalize if if perhaps our neighborhood committee after its formed wanted to take this on as an issue it's something that could be done.

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james murez: The other issue that I found most interesting was this boost gay no motion that was passed and approved through City Council where.

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james murez: It seems as though the neighborhood councils are going to need to come up with a list of all schools and parks and other kinds of establishments that fall into the ordinance.

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james murez: into a list that we're going to have to propose and put forward a list, and so, if everybody can start thinking in their own minds about where do all the preschools exists.

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james murez: Where do the nursery schools exist where to the public schools private schools, whatever they are any of the daycare centers all of these things are going to qualify to be locations of.

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james murez: What do you call it the clean zones or whatever they're going to enforcement areas within 500 feet of them.

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james murez: This is something that's going to be coming down very soon, and if we're prepared for it by next month, that would be great and I guess that also will be pushed off to our neighborhood committee to head that up.

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james murez: But I just jump in for one second.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um one Melissa diner has joined the meeting, but to i've spoken to some folks about that already.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um for the city administering it's cannabis program they already have created a full list of sensitive uses, including schools.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i've communicated this to vicki and I think she is working on it, I just don't want to waste all the Boards time trying to make up list of things that I think.

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Daffodil Tyminski: documented in the city, but maybe vicki could speak to.

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james murez: This show well why don't we bring it back I don't want to get into a big discussion at this point during my report we can do this later on during the committee's me during the part where everybody gets to speak up.

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james murez: Okay um and and solid out and vicki I see your hands are up but i'm going to just finished my report and we're going to get on to the agenda and actually, that is the end of my report, so.

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james murez: I would like to now introduce Alan and invite him to be a panelist and give his part of rebel and go, I saw him here somewhere there, he is.

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james murez: That when i'm promoting you to panelists.

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james murez: That work.

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james murez: Alan go ahead, you have the floor if you want to share your screen have how about it, you also need to unmute to speak when you take like maybe five minutes or so whatever you need to.

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Allan Parsons: yeah so i'm actually not going to share my screen on my work computer i'm like I actually joined the I really listened to some of the redistricting Commission.

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Allan Parsons: meetings and I just want to kind of level set and give folks kind of the input that goes into rejoin the district's.

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Allan Parsons: It does happen every 10 years based off of census data, unfortunately, this year the census data was a bit delayed and that census data was released to the Commission, I think, in late August to begin the map drawing process.

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Allan Parsons: To the map drawing process consists of two parts, one of the parts is based off of public input and then the second part is based off of the actual.

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Allan Parsons: census data to.

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Allan Parsons: Ensure that there's equal distribution of approximately 250,000 constituents in each Council district.

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Allan Parsons: The goal of the redistricting redistricting is to ensure that a few things one votes are not diluted.

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Allan Parsons: That there's fairness and transparency to ensure that those the best possible representation for the constituents of those districts.

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Allan Parsons: districts are redrawn for the districts on benefits not for politicians or incumbents communities of lightness they want those committees of lightness to stay together so communities, for instance, I know that there's a lot of debate on koreatown possibly being split up.

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Allan Parsons: But there's a lot of folks who have been calling in these meetings saying wait we don't want to split koreatown and half this community is very like internally in terms of.

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Allan Parsons: You know churches individuals language restaurants, schools, etc, so there's a lot of folks who want koreatown to stay together.

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Allan Parsons: They want to share the constituents voices are heard, there have been a series of meetings over the past couple of weeks.

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Allan Parsons: There was a Community input meeting today based off of draft maps and I think that was the actual last public input, but neighborhood councils are still invited to to.

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Allan Parsons: place neighbor i'm sorry place Community impact statements on to the record by email, and then they also want make sure there's geographical closeness and that the district's remain compact, so I know, there was a mat circulating around that I think had been.

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Allan Parsons: In a Hollywood district that was, I think, brought up in a meeting and they came back and he said no, it doesn't make sense, because.

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Allan Parsons: The district will no longer be compact it doesn't make sense for Venice to be placed in another district, all the way further downtown so that that myth, or that map was kind of debunked.

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Allan Parsons: So where we're at in the process, now we didn't get much a heads up.

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Allan Parsons: We are going to solicit public input based off of what Community Members here in Venice feels important to them in Venice and.

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Allan Parsons: You know, there is freeform sections for folks to say I do want Venice be part of city 11 or I, this is what I do not like about Venice being part of CD 11 and folks on this call.

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Allan Parsons: throughout the week are invited to submit their their input and I set it up via Google form it's an easy to remember URL it is going to be read district Venice to zero to one.com so read district manager or a.

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Allan Parsons: district Venice all one word 2021 dot com I will take you to a Google forum where you can input your.

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Allan Parsons: Your feedback about Venice what's important to you in Venice and whether or not you like the fact that Venice is part of Council district 11 as it stands today.

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Allan Parsons: um, we are also planning.

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Allan Parsons: For those that do not want to fit submit feedback in a form we are going to let me check my calendar, we are going to have a call Jim I think it we settled on this Saturday 925 I believe it at 10am.

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Allan Parsons: To hear folks from the public in their input and then we will ensure that that input is is correlated aggregated and then forwarded via the Community impact statement now, I also want to note that the version two or draft to have the match based off of last night's input.

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Allan Parsons: have been made available that website, if you do want to see it's a little convoluted to find out, but the maps are available, the second iteration of the drafts at La CC RC.

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Allan Parsons: 202 one.org again l a CC RC to zero to one.org and they get to those maps you actually have to click on meetings drop down upcoming meetings.

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Allan Parsons: And then for today's meeting 921 21 at the very bottom you'll see city of La redistricting Commission second draft maps there's also an available mapping tool, you can see maps that were submitted by the public.

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Allan Parsons: via the mapping and data drop down.

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Allan Parsons: And so what we are looking at doing is based off of Community input.

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Allan Parsons: Potentially redrawing a map based off of that community input, or just saying let's let's keep the the Venice and Council district 11 the same based off of the current census data and what the Members are constituents Dennis feels important to them.

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Allan Parsons: Okay, or yes.

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james murez: How are you are you.

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james murez: Is there a report.

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Allan Parsons: That is.

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james murez: OK, let me add this can we create a simple one page document of some sort that will have all of the links and we'll post that on the website.

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james murez: will probably add it to the homepage as well as to the board page is a supplemental or rather so supporting documents so everybody can find the information there were a lot of links, a lot of good information and a.

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james murez: lot of work with you on that tomorrow and we'll have that up by the end of day tomorrow.

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Allan Parsons: Okay i'll get you a draft night.

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james murez: Thank you very much thank you Alan.

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Allan Parsons: You got it.

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james murez: Okay let's go back to.

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james murez: Our first my screen share to our agenda.

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james murez: We are now on to.

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james murez: Declaration and ex parte communications.

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james murez: or conflicts of interest and I will start by saying that I spoke to an applicant this evening about a project at 522.

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james murez: Venice boulevard it was strictly procedural and that will come up later in the meeting, other than that I have no other ex parte communications or conflict of interest to.

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james murez: describe.

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james murez: alley go ahead.

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Alley Bean: I to spoke to the applicant at five to to Venice, I was wondering Jim, is it possible that the expert tape could come.

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Alley Bean: Before each item so that it's like fresh and week and in case there's something somebody wants to say about what what they actually did have a conversation about or is that crazy idea.

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melissa diner: know you can type say it now Ali and actually I prefer if you remind me that your recusing before the item, so I can note, it also on the item.

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Alley Bean: What do you have to recuse if you've spoken to someone that's what.

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melissa diner: Oh no but I mean like when you just are doing ex parte no but i'm just saying like if you're accusing I prefer that you remind me at the beginning, just.

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Alley Bean: I was just wondering if we could do the ex parte before each item I just I just thought it would be in that way it's like fresh I don't know.

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james murez: yeah I don't know what let's what let's talk about it offline I mean that's sort of a fundamental change to how we've done things in the past in the previous board as well, so let's think about how that would work.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Jim it's 727 Andrea has joined the meeting.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Melissa.

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james murez: Thank you very much.

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james murez: Mike Robin go ahead.

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Mike Bravo: Okay, I think i'm going to need to recuse myself for item nine be 356 avenue to block two hours away okay now i'm actually contestant so yeah okay.

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james murez: Thank you.

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james murez: Robert go ahead.

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Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: I need to recuse myself from Chris more because I live within the 500 foot.

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james murez: Okay, thank you um you guys put your hands down as you're done speaking, please anybody else.

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james murez: leaks go ahead.

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Alix Gucovsky: hi um I was on the call that was procedural with you and the applicant on 522 Venice and for everything on Lou pack i've had conversations, obviously with all of the applicants architects sometimes the staff it's necessary, so they have it yeah.

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james murez: that's to be assumed chair chairs the committee's when they're doing their work, always have those communications and we don't necessarily need to claim expertise, but we have extra meetings that are outside that with other people close, we need to claim i'm Oliver go ahead.

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Oliver Fries: yeah okay mine was all pertaining to the Chair position and discussing with you on you know posting the agenda, mostly procedural stuff.

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james murez: I yeah I had conversations with a lot of board members, I mean i'm not going to deny that, but I also didn't need to report it if it's not the same thing, but thank you NICO go ahead, please.

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Nico Ruderman: Please recuse myself from anything dealing with Council member Mike on and as to put my safety risk and touched on the last week.

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james murez: Okay, thank you.

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james murez: um anybody else.

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james murez: cj cj worry baby here at cj use the hand function because.

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CJ Cole: i've been trying, you know.

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CJ Cole: I need to recuse on 520 somethings.

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james murez: Okay, thank you.

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CJ Cole: 500 foot.

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james murez: anybody else have any ex parte or conflict of interests.

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james murez: Okay, seeing none let's move on in the agenda and everybody if you could remember when the item comes up that you have to recuse yourself from because of conflict of interest that's within 500 feet.

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james murez: Make make mention of that as we get to the item so Melissa can keep the record straight.

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james murez: Okay scheduled announcements and presentations we did the public safety, we did the the lapd report already do we have anybody from the fire department here.

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james murez: Do we have any hands raised from the fire department in our attendees.

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james murez: I don't see any NICO you'd have your hand up, but other than that I don't see any hands up okay so i'm going to assume for now that we don't have any fire department folks here with us tonight might be nice to invite them sometime.

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james murez: let's go back and share the screen.

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james murez: With the agenda.

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james murez: Okay government reports, we want to only allocate about 15 minutes of this, so our meeting tonight to government reports and I did notice that there were some people here.

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james murez: I guess we just start going down the list.

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james murez: To do that, I guess, I need to share just be able to see the list sorry about that folks this is complicated.

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james murez: Okay, so in the attendees who do we have here if you're a government attrition is you're great you're the first one on the list let's let's promote you to.

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james murez: panels.

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james murez: Kristen go ahead.

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james murez: Are you there.

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james murez: Kristen, you have the floor.

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james murez: You have to unmute.

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Tristen Marler: sorry about that um so comprehensive cleanups are happening on Wednesdays in Venice this to specific locations, we want to, in addition to focus on are going to be linking and flowers walls Venice and electric.

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Tristen Marler: And then SEC cleanings are also happening on Thursday, which is what monique was saying before those comprehensive cleanups are happening every Thursday now.

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Tristen Marler: i'm mostly going to be working on programming ocean walk or installations and just continuing to improve the infrastructure there as well.

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Tristen Marler: As part of Council member buttons West side fast forward initiative Venice in Venice on main and advocacy a left turn signal was installed on August for 2021.

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Tristen Marler: On Pacific and rose a signal was also installed on August 5 2021 on advocacy in Washington on or on September 14 2021 a signal was also installed there as well.

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Tristen Marler: and other projects in the works that are going to come online within the next few weeks are on Venice and Shell a pedestrian crosswalk upgrade.

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Tristen Marler: and also on Venice boulevard an Abbot kinney pedestrian crosswalk upgrade there as well, and that's gonna, be it for me, and I think Dexter is also here to give a written report.

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james murez: No all right good, let me promote him up to i'm going to go ahead and if you have nothing else i'm going to make you back a.

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jim robb: Commitment ask, can I ask her a quick question, would you be able to contact the.

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james murez: I guess the question is, can you ask her question and normally during presentations we don't ask questions Jim.

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james murez: You know.

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james murez: If I make an exception to this one time do I have to make an exception for everybody, every time.

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jim robb: Absolutely not I just like for her to reach out to me she's talking about the ocean front walk which I will email her that so.

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jim robb: Thank you.

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james murez: Thank, thank you for, thank you for respecting that I appreciate it.

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james murez: i'm.

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Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: Kristen did you say you were going to clean up over at electric and Venice boulevard.

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james murez: Robin we're not.

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james murez: we're not we're not doing questions and answers.

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Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: i'm just clarifying what she said she mentioned a couple of.

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james murez: locations and I didn't say Venice boulevard at electric yes.

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Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: that's all I needed to know thanks.

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james murez: yeah she did that was there.

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james murez: um okay Dexter I think I promoted you didn't die no not yet why didn't show up.

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james murez: Interesting let's try again.

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james murez: kevin's hand is up.

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james murez: To panelists i'm trying Dexter give me a second I clicked on it twice are up there you go.

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Dexter O'Connell: There it's Dexter i'm going to leave my video off i've been having some Internet issues today, and hopefully this will allow my presentation to be heard in its entirety and.

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Dexter O'Connell: The coda break at the bridge home appears to be over.

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Dexter O'Connell: There were zero deaths and both individuals who are hospitalized had been released, all the individuals went to the quarantine sites and also recovered.

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Dexter O'Connell: The quarantine of the bridge home is expected to be lifted on the 30th but the county's reinstitute reinstituted the capacity reduction looks like that'll be instituted for the duration of the delta wave.

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Dexter O'Connell: Throughout the bridge home system so we'll be back reduced to 75% of build capacity for health order.

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Dexter O'Connell: Three individuals have been permanently house from the bridge home in September so far we're expecting several more to have housing in the next couple of weeks, those are lined up vouchers.

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Dexter O'Connell: And we have over 40 who have now been connected with the emergency housing voucher, which is a part of a new program so very excited about that.

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Dexter O'Connell: And if you have any questions about the bridge home or their motto, you can please reach out to me by email and i'd be happy to talk to you individually.

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james murez: Thank you jack sure.

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james murez: i'm.

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james murez: Who else is here from if anybody is here from from the government that wants to make a report, they need to raise their hand now.

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james murez: zach you next on the list man, here we go.

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james murez: SEC I promoted you there you go.

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james murez: That take it away yep done mute yourself.

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Zac Gaidzik: Yes, I do thank you so much i'm so zachary guides from supervisor sheila cubes office.

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Zac Gaidzik: just going to go over a few updates so first in supporting roe V Wade as many people know women's reproductive rights are under attack again.

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Zac Gaidzik: With the forthcoming scotus case in which the state of Mississippi has asked the Court to overturn roe V Wade.

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Zac Gaidzik: la county is taking a proactive stance protect women's rights to make their own reproductive health care decisions.

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Zac Gaidzik: This week we've passed emotion supervisor cool co authored with supervisor holly Mitchell directing County Council to submit an Amicus Brief.

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Zac Gaidzik: opposing the Mississippi law and any law that recall the calls for roe V Wade to be overturned.

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Zac Gaidzik: Anti choice rhetoric is generally based on a philosophy that emphasizes the control of women and strips them of their of their rights.

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Zac Gaidzik: Which is why it never calls for comprehensive sex education birth control or expanded healthcare access for pregnant women and children.

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Zac Gaidzik: Along the proliferation of anti choice laws will severely an equitably impact for women and women of color denying them the opportunity to determine their future and locking them in a cycle of poverty.

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Zac Gaidzik: it's as true today as it was more than 50 years ago you can't ban abortion, so you can only make them unsafe and inaccessible, particularly for less privileged women.

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Zac Gaidzik: Additionally, we're really pleased that the board past supervisors fuels motion co authored by supervisor holly Mitchell.

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Zac Gaidzik: The calls for improved sexual orientation and gender identity and expression competencies training, which is so G for short.

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Zac Gaidzik: And data collection for la county workplace relations and constituent services, the motion initiates the development of Sochi training, particularly in departments provide services to these populations.

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Zac Gaidzik: To better foster an inclusive environment deliver services and gather critical data.

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Zac Gaidzik: la county employees over 100,000 people and service millions, ensuring that our culture is inclusive and in firms all identities, can have a ripple effect that, ultimately, it improves the lives LGBT Q plus individuals across the region.

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Zac Gaidzik: And finally, every year, it becomes more and more apparent climate change is here, and requires our urgent attention and swift sweeping changes to the way we approach energy.

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Zac Gaidzik: The Board of Supervisors past emotion co authored with supervisor holly Mitchell and supervisor cool the prohibits new oil and gas extraction wells.

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Zac Gaidzik: And explores phasing out existing oil and gas extraction facilities, not only will this action, contribute to our sustainability goals.

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Zac Gaidzik: But it will also help address environmental and racial inequity today 10s of thousands of La county residents live near an oil well nearly 73% of whom are people of color and they bear the brunt of the.

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Zac Gaidzik: Of the documented harmful health consequences caused by these operations, we also past emotion co authored by supervisor fuel.

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Zac Gaidzik: And janice supervisor Han that initiates a comprehensive just transition strategy to help those working in the fossil fuel fuel industry to train for and find new opportunities in the green economy so that's it from the county, are there any questions.

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james murez: No we're not taking questions at the, thank you for making your report short I do appreciate it.

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Zac Gaidzik: No problem.

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james murez: Take care everyone any other government hands, I see freddie's hand is up, I was going to let him go last cuz he's from done and he likes to close out our what's left of our 15 minutes anybody else no other hands up OK ready you got the floor unmute yourself.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Thank you i'ma keep it short joined the upcoming information sessions to share your thoughts on the current draft code of conduct policy for neighborhood Councils.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): and learn about the topics, the proposed amendments response to, there are three upcoming session dates to rsvp if you go to tiny CC forward slash code.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): code conduct rsvp they are Wednesday September 22 from seven to 9pm Tuesday October 19 from 630 to 8:30pm and Saturday November 6 from one to 3pm you can join these sessions online or by the phone on zoom.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): And you can also read the current draft of the Code of Conduct policy data July 2021 if you go to tiny.cc forward slash draft code conduct July 2021.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): also remember to register for the upcoming congress of neighborhoods happening this Saturday from 8am to 3:45pm if you go to neighborhood congress.la for an educational.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Online educational and networking event for neighborhood Council members and stakeholders cornerstone username change due to the pressing changes.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): technical changes challenges and the need to more accurately track training records in the future to department needs to update your cornerstone credentials username and password.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): You will soon receive a new username and new temporary password when you receive this notification, please update your temporary password.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): To a secure password of your choosing, please note once you receive your new username your current username will no longer work this update will not affect your transcripts and you won't have to retake the train you already completed.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): We will send subsequent reminders and updates to ensure the smoothest transition possible and apologize for the inconvenience.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Also, save date core into training modules two and three.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): module two is planned for Thursday October 28 at 6:30pm and will cover MC bylaws hosting virtual public meetings public comment and managing meeting disruptions.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): module three is slated for Tuesday November 30 at 6:30pm topics to be announced registration information and details about topics covered for both modules will be shared by email and your ncs monthly profile, as it is available.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): By law amendments your bylaws are now able to be amended deadlines to submit the bylaw amendment application is April 1 2022 via email at nc support.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): at La city.org i'll provide you a link to that application so you can complete it.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): mayor's Youth Council here's an exciting opportunity for the use of within your community to apply for the mayor's Youth Council for 2021 2022 Program.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): they're currently looking for passionate high school students from each region in La is true interested in civic education to join the.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): mayor's Youth Council class i'll send you an email about the information application or this Council, other than that everything else will be emailed to you, thank you very much.

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james murez: Thank you Freddie.

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james murez: I don't know about the rest of you board members or even the folks out in the audience.

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james murez: But I have a really hard time with all of the presentations keeping up with the URLs and the links and somehow I think we have to improve that somehow we have to be able to put them up.

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james murez: On our web page or on the screen, so they become part of the permanent recording.

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james murez: And we don't have to try and take it all down, while we're listening to the presentation and maybe the presentations will go more quickly to just my my thinking out loud so i'm open to suggestions let's keep moving along so we're done with.

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james murez: yeah yeah Thank you, thank you, thank you, seeing.

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james murez: So we're done with government reports now, we would like to do is take a moment and go through our committee reports.

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james murez: I already gave the portion of.

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james murez: The Rack.

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james murez: Meeting from last night, as the representative there, I was listening participated, the only other thing I want to say is that I did send out to all of the board members, all of the Rack motions that we need to have on our various committee agendas for next month.

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james murez: they're on the motions if anybody from the public wants to see them are available on the West side region alliance of council's website.

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james murez: and any of them that don't say dnc means that the dnc hasn't acted on them yet and i'd like to get us to participate in that I think it's a good thing Ivan did you want to give any kind of report on link.

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james murez: Los Angeles neighborhood Council.

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Ivan: coalition oh.

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james murez: Okay.

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Ivan: Thank you.

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james murez: Budget advocates do we have any report on budget advocacy.

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james murez: Nothing from undress yes, no.

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james murez: Okay i'll assume that that's a no.

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Andrea Boccaletti: i'm sorry advocacy.

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james murez: Budget advocates yeah.

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james murez: He if you haven't done it don't worry about it you'll do it when you get around to it will need to talk more about it, we can do that offline okay.

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james murez: i'm.

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james murez: outreach your next on the list.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Good evening, I will try to share my screen.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Since we don't have the chat can you hear me.

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james murez: yeah two minutes two minutes.

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james murez: Not not too high.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Okay okay.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Okay, thanks yeah um, so I will try to share my screen bear with me because we don't have the fat the chat feature active so that I could post, what we need to post.

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Sima Kostovetsky: But first thing i'd like to say, welcome to the new new the new members of the neighborhood committee after tonight's meeting.

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Sima Kostovetsky: just want to update that the time that the neighborhood Committee meets is the last Wednesday of the month at 730 in the morning I, and let me try to share the screen.

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james murez: it's down at the bottom of the zoom there should be a little green thing you click on that and then it'll bring it up, and you can click on the screen, that is the one you want to share.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Do you guys see my email yep.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Perfect okay.

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Sima Kostovetsky: All right, let's start with the Los Angeles neighborhood Council congress of neighborhoods as both SAC and Freddie as both zach and ready mentioned, it is this weekend, it is this Saturday September 25.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Starting at 8pm and it's pretty much all day and it's via zoom so put on your pajamas and come hang out with other neighborhood leaders together.

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Sima Kostovetsky: And I am probably the easiest thing for the Community to do is just take a screenshot because these are actual direct links.

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Sima Kostovetsky: i'm happy to post this on our website after tonight's meeting, but obviously this was a priority and tonight's meeting was so please go to our website for more information, but take a screenshot, and this is the registration information over here and yeah the neighborhood.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Council congress of neighborhoods this Saturday next Moving on, we also have from the various heritage museum.

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Sima Kostovetsky: A boardwalk through the ages beautiful photo exhibition and silent auction this Saturday, so please stop on by their wonderful organization and they really.

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Sima Kostovetsky: are trying to build the first ever museum to preserve and showcase and celebrate than this is unique historical legacy so it's an amazing event show up and support your Community please moving on here is actually the rsvp link right below for the.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Venice heritage event, please take a screenshot if you're interested, once again, I will be posting and emailing.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Also, as i'm sure you guys know brick mural restoration has been going on on the side of the brick building so actually a pretty historic event for Venice.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Is the mural was started in 1973 by art more two more and he's actually restoring it right now.

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Sima Kostovetsky: And the last time they restored them euro was 20 years ago, so this is a 20 year celebration, so to speak, and the restoration will take place from September 7 that already started to.

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Sima Kostovetsky: estimating end of October, so come out and support your community and support your local artists wow we just posted this on all of our social media Thank you Helen.

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Sima Kostovetsky: And all on our website at www dot Venice and si.org but leptospirosis is basically a canine flu it's a blood disease, though, and it is transferred dog the dog through urine feces you know usual dog ways.

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Sima Kostovetsky: But it is actually transferable from canines to humans, so please go to our website for more info it's posted right up there.

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Sima Kostovetsky: um and talk to your vets see what you can do so, but it's going around and it's spreading last but not least, Venice arts, they are having a young arts competition.

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Sima Kostovetsky: For young artists and the deadline for your application is October 15 2021 so literally a month from now three weeks from now.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Please it's a wonderful organization and it's a wonderful way for young artists to get some guidance and mentorship and it's open for artists ages 15 to 18.

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Sima Kostovetsky: And we'll figure out a way to post this on our website as well, but if you go to Venice arts.org it'll be right there, but really.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Families out there, young people out there, please showcase your artwork this is amazing.

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Sima Kostovetsky: And second part of that is also the scholastic art and writing awards, and you can submit towards that as well, but deadlines, a little bit further December six.

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Sima Kostovetsky: But anyway, I gotta catch my breath hope all of this info helps and thank you to our communities for alerting me to all these wonderful events and speaking of if you know something going on, please email me at Sema K at Venice and si.org let me.

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Sima Kostovetsky: There seem like a medicine co.org to let me know i've things that you'd like us to feature Thank you so much.

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james murez: Thank you Sema and you would it be possible for you to post that page on the outreach page as a resource link if you don't know how to do that, I can show you after the meeting, but that would let everybody, be able to go there and hyperlink.

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Sima Kostovetsky: directly to the Doc that's a good idea jam yeah we had discussed that so i'll post all of that, on the outreach page.

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james murez: yeah that that document that you were just sharing that'd be very helpful and it's also being recorded, so people can always go back to this point, the meeting the time now is 751.

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james murez: If you just write down that it's 751 you'd be able to scroll down to where that was in the video and and that's really the only time marketing, you need to have.

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melissa diner: be able to.

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melissa diner: Fast forward to.

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james murez: To where that is.

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james murez: OK, we had some other committees, they wanted to make reports that meet go back to desire other committees so wanted to make reports, maybe i'm mistaken, I see a hand up, so it adds hand went up so that shoulda.

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Soledad Ursua: You got the floor so just quickly lapd was not able to come to our last public health and safety committee meeting, so we have not gotten.

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Soledad Ursua: stats and so Unfortunately we were not given those bias low contrast today.

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Soledad Ursua: So i'll follow up to see if we can get those in writing somehow if we could share them with stakeholders.

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Soledad Ursua: But we're understanding was that we have seen a major decreasing crime on the ocean front walk and that's due in part to the cleanup efforts.

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Soledad Ursua: So we'll try to get more information by that some members of the community we're just concerned, I know, were able to ask.

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Soledad Ursua: Extra questions, but people wanted to know what the plan was, I understand that the cadillac hotels closing on September 30 so people just want to make sure that there is a plan so that the ocean for walkers and go back to that.

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Soledad Ursua: But we'll try and I don't know if we can follow up with him in another time.

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james murez: yeah they appreciate, we need to get questions in for our government officials before the meeting we need to try and get them out to the.

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james murez: To them, you know so so they have an opportunity to get the right person involved to bring in the information i'm not quite sure how we can do that with the stats it'd be nice if we asked them ahead of time to bring the stats as well.

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james murez: We can talk more about this offline maybe maybe solid at your committee would like to be responsible for the invite.

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james murez: That we send out each month to lapd and by doing that you would be able to have your committee first discuss what are the issues and topics that we want to have them respond to.

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james murez: Okay, I see a few more hands up Jim rob yet tackles first meeting under this new elected government go ahead, you got to report for us.

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jim robb: i'm going to have my first meeting next Monday, which is on the calendar it's the last Monday of the month.

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jim robb: we're going to be meeting with Sonia from parks and REC and hopefully I get Ahold of Tristan and a few others.

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jim robb: The following month i'm trying to put together.

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jim robb: A meeting with all the scooter companies in La do T to talk about the conclusion of the pilot program for the scooters.

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jim robb: As you know, there's more scooters out there and we also have the bike rental places ranting scooters and and bikes to go 50 miles an hour so.

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jim robb: that'll be that'll be the the following month and then hopefully with Alex will be doing something about the the loop hack the the Venice boardwalk for it or and spot zoning and whatever they want to do so, but our first meetings next Monday.

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james murez: Okay, make sure you reach out to me, Jim for send me an email send you back a zoom link okay.

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jim robb: got it Thank you.

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james murez: Thank you Oliver arm your up.

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Oliver Fries: A everyone we had our first rules and selections committee meeting we pass for emotions to have which will be covered in the special meeting tonight, thank you, Jim.

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Oliver Fries: I want to apologize, I did not post the motions on time, I will make sure to do it the day of still figuring this all out I know there'll be some public comment on it so just wanted to get that up front and we'll let you know when we are scheduling our next meeting, thank you.

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james murez: Okay vicki i'm not sure you're not a committee, do you get to speak.

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vicki halliday: Well i'm.

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james murez: Your your your the officer, so you go ahead.

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vicki halliday: And I was trying to answer so dad's question the contract on the cadillac has been extended until the end of the year.

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vicki halliday: So it isn't closing as everyone thought this month that'll be the end of the year now.

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james murez: Thank you.

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01:00:19.380 --> 01:00:24.120
james murez: Thank you very much for that Robert you have your hand up as a committee chair.

513
01:00:26.520 --> 01:00:29.760
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: Yes, Sir um we had our first.

514
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:33.330
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: parking transportation meeting.

515
01:00:34.350 --> 01:00:38.670
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: And we've got a couple motions coming up, so I won't go through those now keep this brief.

516
01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:49.830
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: We have been, and this isn't on the on the agenda today, but I believe, on the next parking transportation will be talking about.

517
01:00:50.850 --> 01:00:51.510
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: When.

518
01:00:52.890 --> 01:00:57.540
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: lapd will be given the green light by the City Council to start enforcing.

519
01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:04.350
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: The parking regulations in Venice that you know, obviously they I guess they got suspended and.

520
01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:11.070
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: My understanding is there's still under suspension, but they're looking at possibly.

521
01:01:12.210 --> 01:01:16.440
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: You know, starting to enforce the one hour zones in the overhyped vehicles.

522
01:01:16.650 --> 01:01:19.110
james murez: So, are they are they going to be coming to your next meeting.

523
01:01:20.040 --> 01:01:22.140
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: i'm trying I reached out today.

524
01:01:22.200 --> 01:01:24.600
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: Okay CC do you want a couple of emails.

525
01:01:24.630 --> 01:01:26.760
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: Okay well we're trying.

526
01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:29.070
james murez: All right, great keep us all important because that could be.

527
01:01:30.450 --> 01:01:37.230
james murez: well attended meeting, if we can get somebody from La do T to participate, thank you, thank you, Robert.

528
01:01:37.380 --> 01:01:38.820
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: Okay i'll keep you up to date.

529
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james murez: Okay, can everybody i'm leaks Lou pack, this is items, not on the agenda just general comment right.

530
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:47.280
Alix Gucovsky: yeah okay.

531
01:01:48.030 --> 01:01:55.560
Alix Gucovsky: So October 14 we will be having city planning to come to to loop back to answer Community questions.

532
01:01:55.980 --> 01:01:59.850
Alix Gucovsky: And they're here tonight they'll sort of give a little broad more broad update.

533
01:02:00.210 --> 01:02:08.130
Alix Gucovsky: But I would encourage it'll first of all, it will be a joint meeting of looping in the board so that anybody on the board can come and here and listen and participate.

534
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:16.350
Alix Gucovsky: But I would also urge all of the Community to start sending questions to me, so that we can get them to the planners in advance of this meeting.

535
01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:24.240
Alix Gucovsky: it's important it's a process and that's all and i've also been in conversations with matt gladney.

536
01:02:25.110 --> 01:02:32.010
Alix Gucovsky: To try and bring him in he's been responsible for the housing element and we're also in conversations with the burden committee.

537
01:02:32.310 --> 01:02:43.230
Alix Gucovsky: To have some deeper presentations on the tree canopy and how that pertains to land use and how we look to incorporate that in our Community plan as well too so look out for those announcements forthcoming.

538
01:02:44.310 --> 01:02:46.020
james murez: Thank you, is Laura here.

539
01:02:47.970 --> 01:02:52.350
Alix Gucovsky: I believe she is, I know she was emailing earlier, I haven't checked to see if she's.

540
01:02:52.770 --> 01:02:54.630
james murez: yeah can you look through the attendee list because I don't.

541
01:02:55.320 --> 01:03:01.620
james murez: think I know she was going to be making a presentation and I was going to give her that time slot during this period of the agenda.

542
01:03:02.040 --> 01:03:06.330
Alix Gucovsky: She was supposed to I don't see her in but maybe she's gonna pop in.

543
01:03:07.410 --> 01:03:08.580
james murez: But if she does, let me know.

544
01:03:08.910 --> 01:03:12.420
Alix Gucovsky: The phone number so she could be on the phone i'll email or gym right now.

545
01:03:12.690 --> 01:03:23.040
james murez: Okay, thank you um and just one other committee I don't see anybody from the arbor committee from our committee, but if there's any other committee people.

546
01:03:23.610 --> 01:03:35.430
james murez: We have a lot of committees everybody, and we have more to come i'm sure, but if there's anybody in the audience tonight that is part of one of our committees that wanted to speak, they should raise their hand now.

547
01:03:38.310 --> 01:03:40.920
james murez: don't see Isabel.

548
01:03:42.120 --> 01:03:43.560
james murez: or arbor committee.

549
01:03:44.850 --> 01:03:46.590
james murez: Nor do I see her co chair.

550
01:03:47.670 --> 01:03:48.510
james murez: The call.

551
01:03:49.890 --> 01:03:51.360
james murez: So I guess.

552
01:03:53.100 --> 01:03:56.610
james murez: Let me just double check our screen share real quick.

553
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:03.450
james murez: What else are we missing.

554
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:08.820
Daffodil Tyminski: district we've done our committee we've done nobody here.

555
01:04:09.180 --> 01:04:14.190
james murez: and say Okay, so I guess we're done with this section of the agenda let's move on to.

556
01:04:15.270 --> 01:04:18.690
james murez: Budget and finance report.

557
01:04:19.890 --> 01:04:20.910
james murez: Andreas you're on.

558
01:04:21.780 --> 01:04:23.430
Andrea Boccaletti: This Hello um.

559
01:04:24.030 --> 01:04:27.000
james murez: If you'd like to share your screen, do you know how to do that.

560
01:04:27.450 --> 01:04:31.080
Andrea Boccaletti: apologize i'm not going to be able to because i'm a telephone.

561
01:04:31.230 --> 01:04:38.640
Andrea Boccaletti: Oh, and so I can pull up the document that we went over in the last budget and finance meeting.

562
01:04:40.500 --> 01:04:41.070
Andrea Boccaletti: So.

563
01:04:41.850 --> 01:04:47.460
james murez: We have hold on one, second, we have a document, let me see if I can open this real quick.

564
01:04:48.150 --> 01:04:51.210
Andrea Boccaletti: yeah okay both right, so you could share.

565
01:04:53.850 --> 01:04:55.740
Andrea Boccaletti: Is it the allocation of the rollover.

566
01:04:56.460 --> 01:04:57.840
james murez: Supporting document.

567
01:04:59.910 --> 01:05:03.450
james murez: So Okay, so these would have been.

568
01:05:04.980 --> 01:05:08.070
james murez: This is the nine seven meeting of your committee is that what you're saying.

569
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Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

570
01:05:09.630 --> 01:05:18.870
james murez: Numbers Okay, and so we have a we have the rollover which one are we talking about I lost my agenda now you got remind me where we are.

571
01:05:21.420 --> 01:05:26.100
james murez: Are we talking about the movie the remember reporter the the administrative packet.

572
01:05:26.850 --> 01:05:28.710
Andrea Boccaletti: Administrative packet there we go yes.

573
01:05:30.090 --> 01:05:30.420
james murez: Okay.

574
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:31.110
james murez: Let me see if I.

575
01:05:31.980 --> 01:05:32.520
Andrea Boccaletti: switch.

576
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:41.670
Andrea Boccaletti: which has been posted since since the seven so everyone to be able to see that, but we rolled over, let me just go to my other screen here.

577
01:05:45.030 --> 01:05:59.670
Andrea Boccaletti: We just allocated our $9,539 and 98 cents of rollover funds from last year's budget and decided to put $400 towards office supplies.

578
01:06:01.980 --> 01:06:07.890
Andrea Boccaletti: $2,000 to Community outreach adding to Community outreach.

579
01:06:08.940 --> 01:06:27.270
Andrea Boccaletti: $3,000 to add to Community improvement projects CIPS which we have not done so far, but i'm sure we'll have some proposed to us and added another $3,000 to neighborhood neighborhood purpose grants.

580
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:30.570
Andrea Boccaletti: So.

581
01:06:35.010 --> 01:06:41.340
Andrea Boccaletti: Other than that, I guess the July Mer monthly expense report Jim could you.

582
01:06:41.520 --> 01:06:42.090
james murez: Tell us.

583
01:06:43.110 --> 01:06:48.510
james murez: So before we do that we need to do a roll call vote on this um.

584
01:06:48.840 --> 01:06:49.890
Andrea Boccaletti: All right, okay so.

585
01:06:50.370 --> 01:06:56.370
Andrea Boccaletti: What we like to make a boat we approved it in the budget and Finance Committee, so it has to be approved by the board right okay.

586
01:06:56.400 --> 01:06:59.040
james murez: Right right so i'm.

587
01:06:59.460 --> 01:07:04.740
james murez: not sure so yeah go ahead Ivan yeah.

588
01:07:05.220 --> 01:07:08.040
Ivan: These motions aren't worded properly.

589
01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:15.270
Ivan: It would look the first one more record should be the Venice neighborhood Council approved.

590
01:07:16.290 --> 01:07:20.040
Ivan: The July mark we don't recommend anything to ourselves.

591
01:07:20.670 --> 01:07:24.540
james murez: Okay, are you getting that Andre, so we need to the next time.

592
01:07:24.810 --> 01:07:25.440
Andrea Boccaletti: Oh, I would.

593
01:07:25.740 --> 01:07:26.610
Andrea Boccaletti: like to make the most.

594
01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:33.780
james murez: Well let's let's do one, at a time Ivan right now we're talking about the administrative report you talk.

595
01:07:34.350 --> 01:07:34.920
james murez: Every morning.

596
01:07:35.940 --> 01:07:36.600
james murez: yeah right.

597
01:07:36.900 --> 01:07:45.510
Ivan: Is that one is then it's neighborhood Council recommends no it's not recommend to Venice neighborhood Council approved.

598
01:07:46.740 --> 01:07:57.690
Ivan: The 2021 2022 administration Pack that the rest can be the same, so we prove the.

599
01:07:59.430 --> 01:08:00.690
Ivan: Administration package.

600
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Ivan: For the same reason we don't recommend to ourselves.

601
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Andrea Boccaletti: Okay last question, then, would anybody, like to make a motion to approve the 2021 2022 administrative packet.

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01:08:15.180 --> 01:08:16.890
james murez: you're you're making the motion.

603
01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:26.070
Andrea Boccaletti: i'm making the motion Okay, but anybody like i'm making a motion to approve the administrative packet for 2021 2022.

604
01:08:26.670 --> 01:08:27.060
melissa diner: With just.

605
01:08:27.570 --> 01:08:31.560
melissa diner: A friendly amendment Melissa diner all all the second.

606
01:08:32.100 --> 01:08:32.430
Okay.

607
01:08:34.350 --> 01:08:43.230
james murez: Okay, now we need to to to if there's any questions about the present so we're doing this a little bit backwards, we should have made the motion first.

608
01:08:43.590 --> 01:08:57.870
james murez: Then, made the presentation and then allowed any questions from the board about what was presented to be just questions only of clarity anything they didn't understand not questions about.

609
01:08:58.500 --> 01:09:06.600
james murez: Information about the items so we're only asking for clarity questions and then we want to go to public comment so having said that i'm going to stop sharing for a second.

610
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james murez: And I want to see if we have hands up a purse we have hands up oh and Laura give us a moment we're going to finish the item that we're on right now and then we'll come to you.

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james murez: So any any questions about the administrative package from public comment I see puppets hand is up any other hands going once going twice okay we're going to take one one puppet go ahead you're unmuted.

612
01:09:35.430 --> 01:09:37.050
james murez: puppet you got the floor who's timing.

613
01:09:38.460 --> 01:09:44.460
james murez: daffodil can you time or somebody get up a clock puppy your time's running low.

614
01:09:48.570 --> 01:09:55.170
james murez: Okay puppets not here, I did see Margaret raise her hand to speak so i'm going to go ahead and.

615
01:09:57.090 --> 01:09:58.470
james murez: unmute will try, one more time.

616
01:10:14.130 --> 01:10:15.390
- Puppet: I told you you're paying.

617
01:10:19.080 --> 01:10:22.620
- Puppet: This we see, we have an admission of guilt.

618
01:10:24.390 --> 01:10:37.410
- Puppet: The French Fries of that we did suck up the documents and got them in late but that's Okay, because one thing we know now we know who the friend of worry older is.

619
01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:52.620
- Puppet: Francisco yes, you were there to greet way on or off the bus Francisco you're you're the devil Finally I have proven he's the Antichrist or goddess or good hey.

620
01:10:53.310 --> 01:11:08.820
- Puppet: Again worry, oh no one and he's the new Governor of California right, let us Chamber of Commerce that's right we did it we recover the government and we only knew he would win, yes, you only want lost by what.

621
01:11:09.480 --> 01:11:13.800
james murez: Okay, thank you, I have to meet you had your minute Margaret malloy.

622
01:11:14.400 --> 01:11:15.750
66%.

623
01:11:21.810 --> 01:11:22.140
james murez: Now.

624
01:11:24.240 --> 01:11:28.740
james murez: OK let's continue our meeting well Margaret malloy you had your hand up did you want to speak.

625
01:11:28.980 --> 01:11:31.950
Margaret Molloy: I do, and I had a slide show, and I hope you can show it.

626
01:11:32.430 --> 01:11:35.340
james murez: um did you send that to me.

627
01:11:35.580 --> 01:11:39.150
james murez: I did, is it about this item, because I need to go find it.

628
01:11:39.540 --> 01:11:40.710
Margaret Molloy: it's public comment.

629
01:11:40.740 --> 01:11:45.510
james murez: Yes, oh it's public comment this isn't public comments so in between now and public comment i'll find it.

630
01:11:45.780 --> 01:11:46.620
Margaret Molloy: Thank you very much.

631
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:48.630
james murez: And and we'll come back to it, thank you.

632
01:11:49.920 --> 01:12:05.280
james murez: Okay let's see i'm going to lower everybody's hands we're done with that part Okay, Melissa unless does anybody on the board, have any questions about the budget item that we were just looking at seeing no hands up Melissa take a roll call vote, please.

633
01:12:08.010 --> 01:12:09.420
melissa diner: Okay i'm.

634
01:12:12.450 --> 01:12:13.230
melissa diner: sure.

635
01:12:14.700 --> 01:12:15.900
melissa diner: hold on one second.

636
01:12:35.610 --> 01:12:35.820
know.

637
01:12:38.160 --> 01:12:39.030
james murez: margaret's issue.

638
01:12:40.230 --> 01:12:43.260
james murez: margaret's detachment Margaret let's put your hand down for me.

639
01:12:45.270 --> 01:12:45.690
Thank you.

640
01:13:08.220 --> 01:13:08.670
melissa diner: Jim.

641
01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:09.420
Yes.

642
01:13:10.890 --> 01:13:11.430
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

643
01:13:12.240 --> 01:13:13.080
melissa diner: Yes, Andrea.

644
01:13:13.650 --> 01:13:14.820
Yes, please.

645
01:13:16.620 --> 01:13:17.250
Alix Gucovsky: Yes.

646
01:13:18.660 --> 01:13:19.080
vicki halliday: Yes.

647
01:13:20.820 --> 01:13:21.330
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

648
01:13:21.540 --> 01:13:22.620
Alley Bean: Ali yes.

649
01:13:23.040 --> 01:13:24.450
Chie Lunn: hi yes.

650
01:13:24.690 --> 01:13:26.130
CJ Cole: ej yes.

651
01:13:26.220 --> 01:13:27.000
melissa diner: Like bravo.

652
01:13:27.210 --> 01:13:28.890
melissa diner: Yes, okay.

653
01:13:30.660 --> 01:13:31.230
ElizabethClay: Yes.

654
01:13:32.550 --> 01:13:33.030
Soledad Ursua: Yes.

655
01:13:33.300 --> 01:13:33.810
melissa diner: All of her.

656
01:13:34.020 --> 01:13:36.120
melissa diner: Yes, James rob.

657
01:13:37.620 --> 01:13:38.130
melissa diner: NICO.

658
01:13:42.540 --> 01:13:43.140
melissa diner: Clark.

659
01:13:46.200 --> 01:13:46.800
melissa diner: Stan.

660
01:13:49.230 --> 01:13:49.560
Daffodil Tyminski: I think.

661
01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:52.290
melissa diner: Robert.

662
01:13:53.130 --> 01:13:53.670
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: Yes.

663
01:13:54.030 --> 01:13:55.260
Bruno Hernandez: or no yes.

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Thanks.

665
01:13:57.840 --> 01:13:59.130
melissa diner: Oh, and Jason are you here.

666
01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:00.810
melissa diner: Yes, thank you.

667
01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:04.140
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, thank you so.

668
01:14:05.430 --> 01:14:07.920
Andrea Boccaletti: Jim would you would you just give it a screen share.

669
01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:10.950
james murez: Maybe, let me, let me get back to that the.

670
01:14:10.980 --> 01:14:15.150
Andrea Boccaletti: August Murray monthly expense report, I have to find it.

671
01:14:18.090 --> 01:14:18.570
Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you.

672
01:14:19.350 --> 01:14:22.710
james murez: Give me one second to open it up in the right place.

673
01:14:30.120 --> 01:14:40.950
Andrea Boccaletti: And just while you're doing that i'll talk about one thing, the city was really we had a big mess trying to transfer the credit card, the new to get the new credit card issue to does.

674
01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:50.730
Andrea Boccaletti: issue to us because it was in his name for so long, and so it just there was a lot of paperwork and back and forth, and so.

675
01:14:51.540 --> 01:15:03.960
Andrea Boccaletti: that's finally done now, I know it's held up seem a little bit with the outreach committee for certain things that she needed to pay for Facebook ads and this and the like so just wanted to give a little explanation to that.

676
01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:07.230
Andrea Boccaletti: Alright, so here's.

677
01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:10.260
Andrea Boccaletti: yeah here's.

678
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Andrea Boccaletti: So it was no no fault of our own just it was just a lot of back and forth to get this thing done right and finally get the credit card so um here's the July expense report, which I believe.

679
01:15:29.400 --> 01:15:32.310
Andrea Boccaletti: shows no expenses because.

680
01:15:33.480 --> 01:15:36.180
Andrea Boccaletti: The city was issuing checks for us for.

681
01:15:40.500 --> 01:15:44.280
Andrea Boccaletti: Our regular monthly expenses, as far as apple one.

682
01:15:45.660 --> 01:15:46.110
Andrea Boccaletti: Web.

683
01:15:47.490 --> 01:15:49.650
Andrea Boccaletti: Support so.

684
01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:51.660
Andrea Boccaletti: yeah there.

685
01:15:53.070 --> 01:15:55.800
Andrea Boccaletti: There are no there's no nothing spent here so.

686
01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:04.050
Andrea Boccaletti: I make a motion to approve the July expenditure report monthly expenditure report.

687
01:16:07.020 --> 01:16:08.490
Sima Kostovetsky: We are a second that Sema.

688
01:16:09.390 --> 01:16:10.860
james murez: Anybody have any questions about.

689
01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:21.390
james murez: Anything that's the relative to the presentation of the report, not the item itself okay seeing none let's move on to public comment on this item.

690
01:16:23.250 --> 01:16:24.540
james murez: This is public comment.

691
01:16:24.630 --> 01:16:30.750
james murez: On this murder report the monthly expenditure report, I see two hands up.

692
01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:40.500
james murez: Now we're going to stop after Helen puppet you see asked, did you go.

693
01:16:45.480 --> 01:16:47.490
- Puppet: Missing just two items oh.

694
01:16:48.660 --> 01:16:59.460
- Puppet: Yes, um I believe there was a circle, there was a monkey mask I believe that was purchased and a dozen eggs, so, if you look at that was for the.

695
01:16:59.910 --> 01:17:11.550
- Puppet: worry older welcoming presentation that was on our budget, so I think the mask is 4995 plus tax, and you know those double lay eggs, they bought those over there at.

696
01:17:12.900 --> 01:17:28.620
- Puppet: From costco for $5 so let's put those things on the agenda for the worry elder meet and greet that was there to answer by the Venice neighborhood Councils oh that wasn't really yes, Sir, and remember everybody when you were a monkey mask you don't go.

697
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- Puppet: You go.

698
01:17:33.240 --> 01:17:38.070
- Puppet: And we have to give that one more training and how to do an animal imitation.

699
01:17:39.360 --> 01:17:40.110
james murez: Thank you.

700
01:17:42.540 --> 01:17:45.360
james murez: Okay i'm Helen.

701
01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:52.980
Helen Fallon: i'm just wondering when the board actually approve the regular recurring expenses.

702
01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:00.330
Helen Fallon: That Andrea reference.

703
01:18:01.620 --> 01:18:03.630
Sima Kostovetsky: And we usually do that.

704
01:18:04.620 --> 01:18:07.710
Sima Kostovetsky: Prior to the budget for the whole year.

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james murez: This Sema this is public comment.

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Sima Kostovetsky: i'm sorry.

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Helen Fallon: Oh, I guess, I could go back and look at I guess i'll go back and look between June, July and August and see.

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james murez: Okay, thank you.

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james murez: Okay um anybody on the board, have any questions about what's going on with the monthly expenditure report.

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james murez: See, maybe you want to ask a question about it.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I just wanted to point out that we have a budget that we set for the year and that's where these expenditures come from because they've already been approved.

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james murez: Thank you.

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james murez: And I don't believe we have any expenses, other than the storage facility and the Internet stuff I mean all that stuff was on the first budget so yeah you're right, that was the one that you were still involved in.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Where there were some backed up bills with.

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Andrea Boccaletti: With Kenny over at.

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Andrea Boccaletti: The web corner just I don't understand, but some mix ups like going back to.

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james murez: Kenny Kenny is with the apple.

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Andrea Boccaletti: i'm sorry the Web corner.

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james murez: corner that.

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james murez: that's rob Adams yeah.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And to get to the bottom of that right now there's some.

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Andrea Boccaletti: unpaid invoices from March from I don't know it's just there's a big mix up with that so i'm getting to the bottom of that as well.

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james murez: So that's something you'd have to talk to you about also.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Anyway, that the motion is to to approve the July monthly expense report.

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james murez: talk, talk to me also about the.

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james murez: about the Web corner stuff because i've had conversations with them, I think we're all I think we're up to date on them yeah.

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Andrea Boccaletti: will be up to date, now that i've got the credit card.

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james murez: No, no, I mean, I think I think don't pay them anymore until you talk to me, I think.

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james murez: we're okay.

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james murez: Okay, no other conversations about the monthly expenditure report, Melissa let's take a boat.

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melissa diner: Yes.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

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melissa diner: Yes, and.

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melissa diner: Yes, leaks.

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melissa diner: Yes, vicki.

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melissa diner: Yes, Emma.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

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Alley Bean: Ali yes.

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Chie Lunn: hi yes.

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CJ Cole: DJ yes.

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Mike Bravo: Like bravo yes.

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ElizabethClay: Yes.

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melissa diner: Yes, Oliver.

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melissa diner: Yes, name's rob.

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jim robb: Yes, yes.

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melissa diner: Brown, thank you, yes hi john Robert to them.

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melissa diner: Yes, Bruno Hernandez.

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melissa diner: Yes.

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Bruno Hernandez: Jason sugars, yes.

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melissa diner: Great and you go.

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Nico Ruderman: Yes.

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melissa diner: Thanks.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And then, just last item here is just something to mention.

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Andrea Boccaletti: There was, I don't remember when, but some money there was a lot of an approved for business cards, and so, if anybody.

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Andrea Boccaletti: would like business cards or needs new business card, I mean, I know that people that served on the board before might still have some.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And for those people that have possibly changed position within the board for those who have been reelected if you are interested in having business cards, please send me an email at treasurer at the at Venice nc.org.

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Andrea Boccaletti: And just you know mentioned possibly a quantity I don't know what the quantities that were ordered in the past where i'm going to talk to you, but if you'd like a business card then email me and that's it Thank you.

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james murez: And so I just want to Melissa I just want to make it clear, we did the we did these.

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james murez: out of order, just so you realize that we somehow ended up doing the administrative packet first.

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james murez: And then the mirror report second and they were listed on the agenda is six a being the mirror report and six be being the administrative packet so make sure when you do the Minutes that the correct information gets posted to the correct item.

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melissa diner: You mean you showed the opposite of dunham's at different times the emotions that were made.

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james murez: Promotion worker he listened will go back and listen to the video the motions were correct everything was done correct it's just that he were listed the opposite way on the agenda.

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melissa diner: Does that make sense yeah but I mean he read out the first motion when i've been chimed in, and that was in there, and that was success and that was 1901 and administrative pocket was 20 00 so it does matter and that's not the way I heard it, the way is that.

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james murez: 20 00 was the murder report and the one where NICO abstained was six be.

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melissa diner: That was the administrator everyone.

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melissa diner: else agree with that.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, that's correct okay.

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No.

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james murez: Okay, now we are on to.

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james murez: The public comment items, not on the agenda.

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james murez: So we're on an item number seven and, with that, let me stop sharing this screen give everybody a chance to raise their hands, this is for items, not on the agenda.

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james murez: And I see the hands going up so we're going to give everybody a minute to speak, Margaret, I will start with you because you have a special request that you sent.

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james murez: Very punctually several days ago and and asked to be able to use your time to put a slide show up, so I will grant you that.

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james murez: daffodil you're going to have to speak out one her minutes up because I won't be able to see it.

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james murez: Okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, let.

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james murez: me put that up and unmute Margaret Margaret.

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Margaret Molloy: You I thank you for that this is him problems in Los Angeles city and county lend us so 50 years ago a judgment, the following statement.

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Margaret Molloy: When he sentenced Los Angeles city councilman to prison for taking a bribe for zoning change quote in this country, the power to rezone property involves the power to create great well.

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Margaret Molloy: And the effect of corrupt action by a public official in these matters, in my opinion, is just as reprehensible as taking money from the public treasury, can you put the next one athletes.

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Margaret Molloy: Currently, all of these city officials are awaiting trial or in jail and it's pretty obnoxious can you go to the next one, please.

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Margaret Molloy: So we're talking Jose wheeze or former Chair of the planning and land use committee of the city council.

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Margaret Molloy: john the gui former county assessor Raymond Chen former chief of Los Angeles building and safety will select to former chief of alcohol and beverage control metro central office and englander who's in jail currently serving a federal sentence for bribery keep going Jim please.

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james murez: don't know which way to go.

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Margaret Molloy: That way.

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Margaret Molloy: There you go the charges include Rico.

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Daffodil Tyminski: you're already over Margaret so you just need to wrap it up.

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Margaret Molloy: Okay Rico george's daffodil on cue federal prosecutor, you know we're looking at this in Venice we're seeing the repercussions of this Dennis.

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Margaret Molloy: And I think there's many things coming before you, and please don't like wave a magic wand and say Oh, you know we'll just give after the fact, approval know we're looking at this shit and we're looking at all of you we're looking at all of the developments anything funny.

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james murez: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks for.

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james murez: Okay next speaker.

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james murez: puppet go ahead, please.

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james murez: So and i'm cutting cutting the last speaker off Sanders.

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- Puppet: And again, thank you for putting that slide show america's least wanted politician, the green Jose ways are the Minister of building good things for life, yes.

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- Puppet: Yes, George Francisco I believe one said when I grow up, I want to be like Jose ways are we all should be one like Jose ways are Jose ways are reached the pinnacle of political success.

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- Puppet: Yes, Sir, who else will take the entire people's Republic of China for come out of $6.9 billion and think he's gonna plead guilty is not gonna plead guilty he's gonna take a wrap.

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- Puppet: that's what it is and so thank you everybody and my the FBI continue the good work have cleanly out of study all.

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james murez: next speaker Helen felon.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

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Helen Fallon: yeah the encampment electric events i've heard from a couple stakeholders is got raw sewage running into the storm drains.

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01:27:28.770 --> 01:27:38.310
Helen Fallon: There was a shooting there today and neighbors are being advised to take pictures to document the drug sales and gang activity, like the neighbors should go out there and put themselves at risk.

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01:27:38.820 --> 01:27:49.680
Helen Fallon: They threaten people you can't go, you know access the sidewalk and our City Council said that they were going to identify problem areas, but they were going to rely on the Council member to do that.

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Helen Fallon: And I like to now under the MC is going to demand a bond and deal with this problem and kampmann at denison electric.

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Helen Fallon: Really it's having a very negative impact on the neighbors there, thank you.

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- Puppet: yeah you're welcome.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Helen.

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i'm.

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james murez: next speaker Sean go ahead, please.

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sean obrien: hi can you hear me.

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01:28:18.570 --> 01:28:23.400
sean obrien: Yes, thank you, oh yeah first of all i'd like to say that.

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sean obrien: I would like the police reports to continue to go through i'm solid dads of health and communities safety committee we get like an hour, we can speak an hour and talk to the police and now in this meeting we had 30 seconds, you know it's ridiculous, but my most important.

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01:28:50.490 --> 01:28:57.510
sean obrien: way to express my meeting is protecting our own NICO rodman Katrina Smith.

814
01:28:59.220 --> 01:29:11.430
sean obrien: we're both targeted by malicious dark thing of a public official and I think this needs to be documented and I think this needs to be put on the agenda.

815
01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:22.620
sean obrien: And I think this needs to be public record and I think we need to protect our citizens and this is an illegal act and it's I I it's absurd that.

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james murez: Thank you Sean your time's up Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks our.

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james murez: next speaker.

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james murez: Elizabeth go ahead.

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james murez: yeah yeah.

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Elizabeth Wright: yeah.

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james murez: You were there for a second.

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james murez: let's try again Elizabeth go ahead.

824
01:29:53.760 --> 01:30:00.300
Elizabeth Wright: It pains me to bring up the subject but recently land use planning committee meetings have been canceled.

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01:30:01.320 --> 01:30:20.070
Elizabeth Wright: And this says two things the neighborhood Council doesn't think enough of the Community or the developers to actually take their suitcases seriously, and it also tells study planning that Venice can't get it together enough to hold the meeting.

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Elizabeth Wright: fix it please very rapidly.

827
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james murez: Thank you.

828
01:30:28.050 --> 01:30:32.640
james murez: Thanks um next speaker.

829
01:30:35.280 --> 01:30:36.810
james murez: Who is the next speaker Nick.

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james murez: Go ahead Nick.

831
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james murez: I think you're muted.

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Nick Antonicello: On September 16 we had a.

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Nick Antonicello: boxing incident with Katrina smithers and residents, that is pro we call person as long as people room and who is also finding stocks and dancing and by bond.

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01:31:01.110 --> 01:31:08.280
Nick Antonicello: And bond improves once again just when you thought that he had seen to the lowest of levels, you find your trap door.

835
01:31:08.850 --> 01:31:14.940
Nick Antonicello: And now, is attacking members of the Venice neighborhood Council and eco Roman, as well as to train a strength.

836
01:31:15.630 --> 01:31:25.500
Nick Antonicello: This is what you have as accounting visit incompetent boo he's a scumbag is what he really is, and if someone must be removed from office.

837
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Nick Antonicello: And this board needs to take action to protect one of its own committee members and legal Roman, and when you have my body and attacking a fellow elected official in this fashion it's a disgrace.

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Nick Antonicello: And everyone is for to be coming after this recall and getting signatures and get this guy to hell in a box.

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james murez: Thank you, Nick next speaker.

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james murez: i'm Michael.

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james murez: Michael burbank.

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01:31:56.280 --> 01:31:56.760
Yes.

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Michael A. Burbank: Thank you for Thank you very much, my name is Michael burbank i'm with the city stage.

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Michael A. Burbank: we're here this evening to pass along some information about upcoming endurance race event is the 2021 herbalife 24 triathlon and it's being produced in in.

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Michael A. Burbank: With Brendan Linder over it generic events it's a it's a Sunday morning October 24 event the.

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Michael A. Burbank: triathlon consists of swim bike and run in both the swimming and biking portion will take place heavily within your district, the starting around 6am on that Sunday morning we'll have our swim followed by.

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Michael A. Burbank: bicycle race which will be occupying street space along Venice boulevard going eastward into downtown.

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Michael A. Burbank: So I want to, I want to give you my contact information in case there any questions about our traffic control measures or the event timeline it's Michael at city stage co or you can get me on instagram at city stage co Thank you very much.

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01:32:58.830 --> 01:32:59.880
james murez: Before you run off.

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01:33:00.150 --> 01:33:01.830
james murez: Michael could you do me a favor please.

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james murez: can reach out to our parking and transportation committee.

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james murez: Robert thibodeau.

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james murez: His name is available on our website, but it's also there tonight he's waving his hand there he's in charge of our parking transportation committee.

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james murez: And, and he should probably find out more about what your intentions are along Venice boulevard I know, in the past we've we've always interfaced with Brendan and.

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james murez: Yet want to make sure that we get the information out on our website, we want to make sure that proper circulation through the Community occurs so everybody knows that their car shouldn't be towed away.

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james murez: But that they should be given plenty of notice that the cars that are going to be cleared off the street, need to be done, so the night before and that you've made arrangements to to have places for them to park.

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james murez: And, and I think we've also talked to you guys before about taking care of the trees along your route and we'll get into more of that but but i'll let you go for now, but please reach out to Robert so we can have that interface, thank you.

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Michael A. Burbank: are certainly.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Michael Jackson Michael, if I may, Michael, can you please email me as well i'm sorry i'm the outreach tear Sema S, I am a or just give me your email and i'll reach out to you.

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james murez: yeah what will share that with everybody seemed that's good.

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james murez: But we'll get into.

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Michael A. Burbank: My email is Michael at city.

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Michael A. Burbank: Stage Co.

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james murez: And it's being recorded, so we can always rewind see my P just note the time it's.

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Sima Kostovetsky: 829 Thank you.

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james murez: um let's move on.

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Lisa redmond.

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james murez: You have the floor.

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Lisa Redmond: yeah I want to talk about my disappointment and a couple procedural issues that are happening um one I think is kind of the of use of special meetings.

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Lisa Redmond: it's almost like we're calling wolf special meetings, usually are called take a business that requires urgent attention and can't wait until the next regular meeting.

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Lisa Redmond: Tonight you've got a special agenda for basically some administrative stuff of cleaning up some standing rules definitely could have waited till the next month not urgent not timely.

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Lisa Redmond: It just seems like we don't want to get into a habit of calling wolf so when a real special meeting needs to happen people go whoo This is important, the second is I really want it has that motions not be rushed to the board that they do fully go through the committee.

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Lisa Redmond: Sometimes people consider motions pressing but they're not always urgent urgent also is a timely issue and that's why they're rushed without committee.

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Lisa Redmond: Even your own board agenda says, please speak up and committee because you're given more time to talk about issues, not just the 30 seconds that will be allowed, when the motion comes up tonight, thank you, thank you.

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Thanks Lisa.

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james murez: daffodil if you could buy no it's probably hard on your arms, but if you could hold your clock up a tiny bit higher it.

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james murez: So.

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james murez: Hearing hi it's by here appearing behind the name the zoom puts on your screen.

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Daffodil Tyminski: apologies.

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james murez: Sorry, I didn't realize so it's our answer.

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That.

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james murez: Erica more go ahead, you have the floor.

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Erica Moore: hi there, thank you, everybody to the service you're doing, I want to applaud margaret's presentation Thank you so much i'm 100% on board with what you're talking about.

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Erica Moore: A just in what Sam was talking about with lefkow one of the biggest proponents of spreading left dough is rat your end which goes through water, so we do have a prolific prolific ation of rats.

885
01:36:45.960 --> 01:36:50.490
Erica Moore: rats right now so that's something to really consider because it's dangerous to our dogs and us.

886
01:36:50.940 --> 01:36:58.470
Erica Moore: But really pressing to me is the communications with you guys on your website under committee members and board there's like little.

887
01:36:58.830 --> 01:37:06.150
Erica Moore: there's a little icon to be able to email you guys I have reached out to about eight people via that email.

888
01:37:07.020 --> 01:37:13.440
Erica Moore: You know, filling that form out and nobody responded to me I don't think you guys are getting it because I actually.

889
01:37:13.770 --> 01:37:21.630
Erica Moore: did a test with someone who I do know and have contact information from and they said they did not receive there's through that venue as.

890
01:37:21.900 --> 01:37:28.500
Erica Moore: I had attempted so i'm concerned about that because we, as the public are supposed to be able to communicate with you guys easily.

891
01:37:28.770 --> 01:37:37.200
Erica Moore: And on the website I love the fact you could just click on that, but it's not working, apparently so i'm very concerned about that and hope you guys will address that.

892
01:37:37.740 --> 01:37:40.380
james murez: Thank you, thanks we'll look into that.

893
01:37:43.110 --> 01:37:45.780
james murez: Steve Sanders go ahead, please.

894
01:37:48.510 --> 01:37:51.210
james murez: Steve you're unmuted unmute yourself.

895
01:37:51.750 --> 01:37:58.440
Steve Sanders: All right, I would just want to encourage you guys to move on some designations for.

896
01:37:59.790 --> 01:38:04.140
Steve Sanders: Enforcement before the other neighborhood Councils get their areas teed up.

897
01:38:05.160 --> 01:38:14.460
Steve Sanders: But uh rather than talk about that, I think it is important to focus on Katrina and need go and their bravery doing what they think is needed for us so.

898
01:38:15.870 --> 01:38:16.980
Steve Sanders: kudos to them and.

899
01:38:18.090 --> 01:38:19.860
Steve Sanders: up there okay thanks guys.

900
01:38:22.080 --> 01:38:22.560
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

901
01:38:23.550 --> 01:38:38.310
james murez: Thank you Okay, so that ends public comment for this evening Thank you everyone for making your presentations is short and direct as possible that makes it easier on us that, through quicker let's go back now to our agenda.

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01:38:40.170 --> 01:38:41.970
If I can find it here we go.

903
01:38:44.580 --> 01:38:48.150
james murez: And now items general consent calendar.

904
01:38:49.680 --> 01:38:52.860
james murez: So on the general consent calendar, we have pete K.

905
01:38:55.290 --> 01:38:55.950
james murez: i'm.

906
01:38:56.730 --> 01:38:59.400
Daffodil Tyminski: TIM I need to step out for one moment is um.

907
01:38:59.730 --> 01:39:02.430
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay 834 yep.

908
01:39:02.820 --> 01:39:04.830
Alix Gucovsky: Jim excuse me, are you bringing lauren.

909
01:39:05.580 --> 01:39:06.300
james murez: Oh you're right.

910
01:39:06.360 --> 01:39:08.160
Alix Gucovsky: i'm sorry to interrupt.

911
01:39:08.220 --> 01:39:14.220
james murez: boyle boy That was my mistake sorry Laura i'm bringing you in right now I should have done that, even before the last item.

912
01:39:16.530 --> 01:39:19.440
james murez: Is for everybody that doesn't know Laura.

913
01:39:21.030 --> 01:39:23.490
james murez: Here from there, she is great.

914
01:39:25.080 --> 01:39:27.900
Soledad Ursua: I think, for a are those on gen console.

915
01:39:28.200 --> 01:39:43.410
james murez: hold on we're gonna we're gonna bring somebody yeah it is we're bringing somebody else, and I just made Laura panelists Laura go ahead, your panelists now you want to share your screen or make your face be seen you're more than welcome to unmute your voice and your camera.

916
01:39:44.250 --> 01:39:45.570
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): Great can everyone hear me.

917
01:39:45.720 --> 01:39:49.140
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): Yes, no I don't have those other.

918
01:39:51.060 --> 01:39:53.010
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): options at this moment on my screen.

919
01:39:53.250 --> 01:40:01.410
james murez: Okay let's introduce Laura Laura is here from the city of the Department of city planning and she's here to talk to us about and take it away Laura.

920
01:40:03.060 --> 01:40:12.870
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): Alright, so I did send Alex the PDF of the slide deck Alex can you share your screen or I can just I can just give like a quick overview.

921
01:40:15.390 --> 01:40:18.750
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): And I was going to drop some Lincoln links in but I don't see the chat box either.

922
01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:21.540
james murez: yeah the chat box is not available, we didn't want.

923
01:40:22.710 --> 01:40:26.040
james murez: A leak, so you can certainly share your screen.

924
01:40:28.860 --> 01:40:37.710
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): Well i'll just get started so Hello everybody, my name is lauren mcpherson I work with the city of Los Angeles, and I am part of the.

925
01:40:38.970 --> 01:40:45.210
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): Planning departments team that looks after Venice with my colleague, Eva Chang person who's also on the call tonight.

926
01:40:46.020 --> 01:40:52.320
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): I know I can see the neighborhood Councils faces so Hello everyone and.

927
01:40:52.770 --> 01:41:01.440
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): Welcome to those new members, who I have not met before and hello to everyone who I cannot see who's out there in the virtual universe, I hope everyone is.

928
01:41:02.010 --> 01:41:19.500
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): Staying safe and healthy and that your family and friends are also healthy and safe I know it's been a wild time for a lot of folks so I just also came from trying to coach and under six soccer team, so if i'm not totally focused i'll get my bearings in just a minute.

929
01:41:22.920 --> 01:41:32.160
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): Okay, so this evening we spoke to the dnc last week and we reached out after the election, just to kind of introduce ourselves and let you know what we're up to.

930
01:41:32.670 --> 01:41:41.670
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): And it has been a challenging year for outreach obviously things are looking a lot different than they they used to look with our outreach meetings at oakwood recreation Center.

931
01:41:42.060 --> 01:41:54.330
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): And the library and at westminister school and the high school and so we've been trying some different formats and i'm happy to be here tonight, so the idea is that i'll just take about three minutes to give you a quick.

932
01:41:54.360 --> 01:42:00.900
Alix Gucovsky: Older large excuse me, I just shared the screen if everyone can see, let me know and just tell me when to move to the next slide.

933
01:42:01.110 --> 01:42:02.730
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): sure this is great, thank you.

934
01:42:05.100 --> 01:42:14.100
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): So yeah i'm just gonna give a quick overview of our project and really invite you to come to the October 14 neighborhood Council land use planning committee.

935
01:42:14.580 --> 01:42:26.850
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): And At that session, you know we'll go into a little bit more detail about our program will have some addresses, you can send some questions to in advance if there's a specific area you're really interested in and then also um.

936
01:42:28.380 --> 01:42:32.490
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): yeah maybe I could send I have some links to share for folks, but I can also just.

937
01:42:33.630 --> 01:42:36.690
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): send them around to the neighborhood Council having put them on the website, or something.

938
01:42:38.010 --> 01:42:42.360
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): So in Venice there's there's a number of planning initiatives happening, so we have.

939
01:42:43.410 --> 01:42:49.830
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): kind of this one geography but two intersecting program so on the left hand side you'll see the Venice Community plan area.

940
01:42:50.580 --> 01:42:59.010
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): And then on the right side you see that we actually that areas divided into two pieces so East Venice, which is the area east of Lincoln.

941
01:42:59.340 --> 01:43:07.290
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): is actually outside the coastal zone so though it's in the Community plan it's not in the coastal zone, and then the blue area that you see, is in the coastal zone.

942
01:43:07.620 --> 01:43:18.060
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): And why that's important is because that's kind of under the jurisdiction of the California coastal Commission and there's a slightly different mandate and the general plans you can go to the next slide please.

943
01:43:22.260 --> 01:43:31.560
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): So in Venice currently we're updating both of these programs, and so you know the Venice kosta program you seeing the left it really upholds the policies of the coastal act.

944
01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:43.020
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): And it's only applicable in the coastal zone, whereas the Community plan it upholds a policy, the general plan framework and it's applicable to the whole Community plan area, so you can go to the next slide.

945
01:43:44.940 --> 01:43:54.150
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): And so, why that's important is that we have these two simultaneous programs happening we're kind of locked step right now and there's a lot of synchronizing and strategy between the groups.

946
01:43:54.660 --> 01:44:09.420
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): And so, in October, at the meeting i'll explain a little bit about the plan development strategy, where we are, what the Community saw in terms of the last round of concepts how we're coordinating and our public outreach going forward, and you can go to the next slide please.

947
01:44:13.320 --> 01:44:23.280
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): So just to give a quick recap For those of you who are new to the dnc in the past year, a lot of the focus for the Community plan update.

948
01:44:23.880 --> 01:44:29.280
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): has really been on the dress concepts and so these were presented in July 2020.

949
01:44:30.120 --> 01:44:38.970
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): And then, following those webinars there was a series of office hours that were held virtually, and these were by sign up with different individuals Community members anyone could sign up.

950
01:44:39.510 --> 01:44:47.940
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): And those are hosted into the fall and starting in December, the team started to really look at all of the comments and feedback that were received.

951
01:44:48.510 --> 01:44:55.980
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): I think in the West side geography, there were over 2500 comments, which is astounding and really great to see that much engagement participation.

952
01:44:56.430 --> 01:45:05.160
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): And so it took the team, a long time to get through all that feedback and all of that feedback was summarized in April and it's all posted on the website.

953
01:45:05.910 --> 01:45:19.350
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): it's posted by geography and then for Venice there's a PDF specific for feedback received on the Venice concepts and there's also a more interactive version of it it's called power bi.

954
01:45:20.010 --> 01:45:31.110
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): On the website so that was launched in April and then since then, the teams have been going through the feedback and refining concepts in preparation for sharing that out in 2022.

955
01:45:31.980 --> 01:45:41.850
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): We also launched late last year than a survey 21 and that's a historic survey that takes place in the coastal zone only and.

956
01:45:42.270 --> 01:45:53.940
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): there's an online survey, you can take and there'll be an outreach event coming up either late this year early next year, and that will be the second of three outreach events so you know the next slide please leaks.

957
01:45:56.310 --> 01:45:56.730
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

958
01:45:58.050 --> 01:46:02.160
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): So yeah for the next that was just like I know you all have a very.

959
01:46:03.300 --> 01:46:14.640
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): Intense agenda for the evening so um we've been coordinating to have a little bit more time to kind of go into detail on some of these project aspects on October 14 meeting.

960
01:46:15.120 --> 01:46:22.410
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): And so there's some emails here, if you want to send questions in advance, you can send them by October six that would be great because I think it's a long weekend.

961
01:46:23.970 --> 01:46:27.060
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): The indigenous peoples day that Monday, then the meeting is that, following week.

962
01:46:27.600 --> 01:46:35.760
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): And it just gives us a chance to find out what people are most interested in we've heard a lot of folks asked about outreach and what that's going to look like in.

963
01:46:36.210 --> 01:46:53.100
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): A pandemic world and going forward so we also welcome any insights or suggestions you have for how our team might be able to better reach out to folks and going forward so with that I wish everyone a lovely first weekend of autumn, and we look forward to seeing you all in October.

964
01:46:55.230 --> 01:46:58.710
james murez: Thank you Laura That was a wonderful presentation.

965
01:47:00.390 --> 01:47:00.870
james murez: um.

966
01:47:01.440 --> 01:47:03.090
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): thanks for having me bye.

967
01:47:03.150 --> 01:47:21.210
james murez: yeah before you run off, let me just let me just repeat those dates so everybody's real clear, so we have an October 14 meeting at Lou pack, and that would be the loop back meetings so people wanted to send requests, they should send them to loop back at Venice and see.org.

968
01:47:22.680 --> 01:47:34.830
james murez: that's Lou pack l upc at Venice nc.org and those comments, if possible, could be in by October six so elite can forward those all to you is that correct.

969
01:47:35.070 --> 01:47:35.940
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): Yes, correct.

970
01:47:36.360 --> 01:47:38.430
james murez: Okay, great Thank you very much.

971
01:47:39.510 --> 01:47:40.950
Laura MacPherson (she/hers): Thanks everyone take care.

972
01:47:41.100 --> 01:47:41.880
james murez: bye OK.

973
01:47:43.290 --> 01:47:44.550
james murez: So now let's move back.

974
01:47:44.550 --> 01:47:46.080
james murez: To our agenda.

975
01:47:46.800 --> 01:47:53.220
james murez: We just finished, let me share the screen back here, thank you Alex for sharing that, by the way.

976
01:47:56.730 --> 01:48:02.370
james murez: Okay we're back here so yeah we're on to Item number eight solid and you had a question, this is on the consent calendar.

977
01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:18.270
james murez: It was there any other items on consent yeah there was an eight be, which was a warning to Venice stakeholders about the dog disease was there any others, there was an eight D, which was a.

978
01:48:19.710 --> 01:48:23.490
james murez: Most motion for signage from Rack.

979
01:48:24.540 --> 01:48:33.360
james murez: And I think that was all of the oh and there's an eight see excuse me, and a motion for the support with a transit cord or project.

980
01:48:35.700 --> 01:48:37.980
Daffodil Tyminski: Timothy 43 at Stanford alum back on.

981
01:48:38.220 --> 01:48:38.940
james murez: Okay, thank you.

982
01:48:40.140 --> 01:48:44.010
james murez: So those those four items are on consent calendar.

983
01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:46.410
james murez: If.

984
01:48:47.490 --> 01:48:57.030
james murez: anyone wants to remove any of those items from consent, that would be their opportunity to speak, otherwise we're going to i'm.

985
01:48:58.140 --> 01:49:07.800
Soledad Ursua: Jim I have a question um I know previously, I think I don't know friday's on I thought it was only board members who could remove item from consent Is that correct.

986
01:49:08.340 --> 01:49:13.590
Soledad Ursua: No, he said that you it's up to you if you decide to allow members of the public to do that or.

987
01:49:14.220 --> 01:49:17.310
Ivan: Every every every anybody can remove an item.

988
01:49:18.030 --> 01:49:26.460
james murez: yeah That was my understanding, so, so I have to go to the public at this point, we do have three hands raised.

989
01:49:27.660 --> 01:49:29.370
james murez: And i'm going to stop it after that.

990
01:49:31.020 --> 01:49:35.040
james murez: puppet you want to speak, and this is only to whether or not there's an item to be removed.

991
01:49:35.160 --> 01:49:36.450
james murez: From the consent calendar.

992
01:49:37.950 --> 01:49:51.180
- Puppet: Yes, pursuant to the boy laws of them, the secret bylaws don't pop up in books, because law rule or pop up items on the consent calendar.

993
01:49:52.830 --> 01:49:53.130
james murez: Okay.

994
01:49:53.850 --> 01:49:56.070
- Puppet: that's right it's a tradition, since.

995
01:49:56.670 --> 01:50:01.200
james murez: You know I just thank you puppet it just makes our meetings take a lot longer okay.

996
01:50:01.260 --> 01:50:03.570
- Puppet: I were taught me everything I know.

997
01:50:03.690 --> 01:50:04.170
james murez: Thank you.

998
01:50:04.560 --> 01:50:05.430
- Puppet: These are God.

999
01:50:05.790 --> 01:50:16.920
james murez: Thank you, if you keep on muting yourself i'm gonna have to remove your talking capabilities, thank you okay so everything's being removed from consent, we have to sit through an extra hour of.

1000
01:50:18.300 --> 01:50:20.100
Ivan: For what reason Jim you can.

1001
01:50:21.030 --> 01:50:21.780
melissa diner: I agree.

1002
01:50:22.110 --> 01:50:28.950
melissa diner: No way yeah we're not we're not we've let that guy curse it us, that was not even a serious thing like.

1003
01:50:29.010 --> 01:50:32.430
melissa diner: i'm not here to play more Hall, Melissa hold on.

1004
01:50:32.670 --> 01:50:37.140
james murez: i'm Ivan yeah does he have to have a reason.

1005
01:50:37.920 --> 01:50:38.220
yep.

1006
01:50:39.570 --> 01:50:54.300
Ivan: He does you can't remove things arbitrarily for to be obstructionist if there's a legitimate reason because he wants to talk about an item or something, then, then he can remove it, but he can't just say i'm removing everything.

1007
01:50:54.990 --> 01:50:57.150
james murez: Okay puppet i'm going to give you another.

1008
01:50:58.050 --> 01:51:05.370
melissa diner: 15 no Jim no way we're not giving him another minute he had his public comment move on to the next, like this is not know.

1009
01:51:05.430 --> 01:51:08.370
melissa diner: Like we're not dealing with insanity here i'm Sorry, I will not.

1010
01:51:08.370 --> 01:51:08.760
Allow.

1011
01:51:09.900 --> 01:51:11.190
We do have to.

1012
01:51:12.330 --> 01:51:13.740
- Puppet: Oh no I get to do it.

1013
01:51:14.820 --> 01:51:17.700
james murez: Now we do have we do have two other hands up let's see what the other hand.

1014
01:51:19.590 --> 01:51:19.920
james murez: i'm.

1015
01:51:22.020 --> 01:51:23.490
james murez: Margaret malloy go ahead, please.

1016
01:51:24.270 --> 01:51:27.360
Margaret Molloy: yeah I want to take a day off the consent, and I want to take.

1017
01:51:29.520 --> 01:51:30.750
james murez: Then you have a reason why.

1018
01:51:31.170 --> 01:51:38.550
Margaret Molloy: yeah because I want to discuss it it's something i've really looked into a lot for several years and nine a cross more which I.

1019
01:51:38.580 --> 01:51:39.420
james murez: took off nine.

1020
01:51:39.870 --> 01:51:45.810
james murez: Excuse me, nine is not on the content calor only items 888 830.

1021
01:51:47.070 --> 01:51:48.300
james murez: Taking we're taking a.

1022
01:51:48.720 --> 01:51:49.380
james murez: day off.

1023
01:51:49.590 --> 01:51:56.460
james murez: Thank you, Margaret there was one other hand, Helen you had your hand up go ahead, please Hello um.

1024
01:51:56.700 --> 01:52:12.000
Helen Fallon: yeah I attended the icon meeting and unless you're holding the loop a consent consent calendar separately, you did put several lubec items on consent, so you don't and I think that's how they're showing up on this agenda.

1025
01:52:12.120 --> 01:52:14.310
james murez: So I believe that that's a separate.

1026
01:52:14.310 --> 01:52:16.350
melissa diner: Consent right i'm.

1027
01:52:16.860 --> 01:52:17.070
Helen Fallon: Just.

1028
01:52:18.060 --> 01:52:23.640
Helen Fallon: Not clear the way you organize this agenda, because you did put some of the loop back on on consent.

1029
01:52:23.850 --> 01:52:25.980
james murez: Thank you, let us research that.

1030
01:52:26.520 --> 01:52:27.720
Ivan: There were two separate.

1031
01:52:28.080 --> 01:52:28.560
Ivan: Can you say.

1032
01:52:29.460 --> 01:52:39.210
james murez: Thank Thank you Ivan they are separate items and will be addressing the consent calendar for loop back later.

1033
01:52:41.010 --> 01:52:43.170
Helen Fallon: On he reformat your job.

1034
01:52:45.930 --> 01:52:55.680
james murez: Okay i'm going to start permanently muting people when they just decided to speak up and unmute themselves again they can do that I can just Remove your talking capabilities, so please don't do that.

1035
01:52:56.850 --> 01:52:58.050
james murez: I don't want to have to do that.

1036
01:52:59.310 --> 01:53:03.930
james murez: Okay, so let's take a vote now on item you.

1037
01:53:03.990 --> 01:53:05.430
Ivan: need to vote him.

1038
01:53:05.640 --> 01:53:06.330
james murez: Oh, we don't need.

1039
01:53:06.840 --> 01:53:10.500
Ivan: Nobody else moves me saying it just automatically passes.

1040
01:53:10.530 --> 01:53:17.130
james murez: So be Melissa items eight be through eight D of all past.

1041
01:53:17.820 --> 01:53:20.250
james murez: Great be as in baker D, as in David.

1042
01:53:21.360 --> 01:53:22.020
melissa diner: I got it.

1043
01:53:22.290 --> 01:53:22.740
james murez: Thank you.

1044
01:53:24.030 --> 01:53:24.600
james murez: Okay.

1045
01:53:26.250 --> 01:53:37.560
james murez: moving back to the agenda, so item eight a will now be at the end of the agenda and the person who Margaret I think it was you, if you're not here at the end of the agenda.

1046
01:53:38.370 --> 01:53:44.460
james murez: Will just consider it back on the consent calendar, you need to be here when the motions heard, even if it's one o'clock in the morning.

1047
01:53:46.080 --> 01:53:49.470
james murez: i'm OK now we're on the nine.

1048
01:53:50.700 --> 01:53:54.480
james murez: This is the land use committee consent calendar.

1049
01:53:55.500 --> 01:54:00.300
james murez: And it looks like nine eight and nine be.

1050
01:54:01.680 --> 01:54:03.300
james murez: And nine see.

1051
01:54:05.400 --> 01:54:09.090
james murez: we're all on consent, they all had unanimous votes.

1052
01:54:10.350 --> 01:54:12.780
james murez: And so now.

1053
01:54:17.970 --> 01:54:19.200
james murez: let's ask for.

1054
01:54:20.310 --> 01:54:23.850
james murez: Public input on any of these items.

1055
01:54:25.860 --> 01:54:27.960
melissa diner: I see just ask if anyone wants to.

1056
01:54:27.960 --> 01:54:29.340
melissa diner: pull it it's not quite.

1057
01:54:30.030 --> 01:54:30.540
Ivan: That right.

1058
01:54:31.020 --> 01:54:37.830
james murez: Right so Does anyone want to pull it and I see one two.

1059
01:54:39.450 --> 01:54:40.530
Why do I not see.

1060
01:54:44.310 --> 01:54:45.090
james murez: Oh interesting.

1061
01:54:52.710 --> 01:54:56.850
james murez: Somehow Lisa redmond became a panelist sorry that was my my bad I guess.

1062
01:54:58.770 --> 01:55:02.850
james murez: Okay, so I wasn't seeing her hand in the right place Lisa redmond if your hand is up reraise it.

1063
01:55:04.170 --> 01:55:05.340
james murez: Yes, okay so.

1064
01:55:08.640 --> 01:55:09.600
james murez: puppet go ahead.

1065
01:55:13.980 --> 01:55:27.180
- Puppet: And so, yes i'm like I said i'm going to pull the concern items and you didn't give me a chance to run, but not a goddamn fucking thing you can do now you'll have to do it or it'll be a cure correct.

1066
01:55:27.930 --> 01:55:48.990
- Puppet: And a legal claim for damages that's why I renew and not to Fuck with the puppet Francisco always do not to Fuck with the gold puppet not even Mike Bonner, not even knows, not the market that God Papa he normally Martinez box with the good puppet yes nuri does so that's why.

1067
01:55:50.490 --> 01:55:51.960
- Puppet: The consent calendar.

1068
01:55:52.080 --> 01:55:54.000
james murez: yay have it, they say.

1069
01:55:54.180 --> 01:55:56.880
- Puppet: I records little way of doing business.

1070
01:55:57.120 --> 01:55:59.880
james murez: up and they say you need to have a reason you have a reason why.

1071
01:56:00.480 --> 01:56:02.250
- Puppet: Yes, well, first of all.

1072
01:56:02.640 --> 01:56:04.470
Soledad Ursua: there's an agenda.

1073
01:56:05.340 --> 01:56:05.910
james murez: There what.

1074
01:56:07.170 --> 01:56:09.330
- Puppet: What solo done what what.

1075
01:56:09.690 --> 01:56:11.760
- Puppet: Are we talking about 30 seconds.

1076
01:56:12.690 --> 01:56:13.140
- Puppet: Just for.

1077
01:56:13.320 --> 01:56:13.830
james murez: A second.

1078
01:56:14.520 --> 01:56:16.110
- Puppet: You invited lori elder.

1079
01:56:16.170 --> 01:56:19.290
- Puppet: Yes, there there's the one have invited Larry elder.

1080
01:56:19.470 --> 01:56:20.760
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thank you.

1081
01:56:22.680 --> 01:56:26.220
- Puppet: Larry elder that I love letter Rio.

1082
01:56:26.400 --> 01:56:44.430
james murez: De puppet i'm not going to take those as reasons because Larry elder has nothing to do with the planning projects that are on the consent calendar you'd have to have reasons based on the actual planning projects themselves so moving right along Margaret go ahead, please.

1083
01:56:44.730 --> 01:56:46.650
Margaret Molloy: Nine at the crest more property.

1084
01:56:47.490 --> 01:56:49.350
james murez: Okay anything else any reason.

1085
01:56:49.920 --> 01:57:01.230
Margaret Molloy: I waited until one in the morning last last time to make one minute of public comment and you rescheduled it for this month, so I waited a month for one comment, thank you.

1086
01:57:01.620 --> 01:57:02.160
james murez: Thank you.

1087
01:57:05.370 --> 01:57:07.830
james murez: Sean you have your hand up go ahead, please.

1088
01:57:08.910 --> 01:57:12.660
sean obrien: Can I speak on 522 Venice boulevard.

1089
01:57:13.110 --> 01:57:14.400
james murez: that's not on consent.

1090
01:57:14.940 --> 01:57:15.600
sean obrien: i'm sorry.

1091
01:57:15.960 --> 01:57:17.700
james murez: that's all right, thank you we'll come back to you.

1092
01:57:19.980 --> 01:57:21.450
james murez: Lisa redmond go ahead, please.

1093
01:57:23.070 --> 01:57:33.330
Lisa Redmond: yeah i'm just going to point out, you don't need a reason to pull something you guys are making that rule up tonight you've never had a reason, all it is, is just enough of a stakeholder asset.

1094
01:57:33.720 --> 01:57:37.740
Lisa Redmond: I highly suggest maybe you check that with Freddie or your own bylaws.

1095
01:57:38.220 --> 01:57:55.050
Lisa Redmond: or your own agenda, but you do not need reasons, and that is an IRA causal roof we're going to talk about puppet he always if people started to give reason he'd say no, no, just that you want it off that's enough so yep yep no reason needed a request is all that's necessary.

1096
01:57:55.440 --> 01:58:02.250
james murez: Thank you Lisa Freddie I think she's correct and I guess I haven't spoke up you want to.

1097
01:58:03.330 --> 01:58:07.470
james murez: clarify how done feels about whether or not a reason needs to be given.

1098
01:58:10.590 --> 01:58:19.080
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): i'm currently looking up your the robert's rules of order 11th edition, which is not the most recent one, the 12th additional we still have not got a received yet.

1099
01:58:21.420 --> 01:58:29.610
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I always defer to the parliamentarian for this, since it is a momentary action I don't know your bylaws speak to this specifically.

1100
01:58:29.880 --> 01:58:39.510
james murez: No parliamentarians said that they need to stay to reason, so I know that I used to just always say okay if anybody wants it off its off.

1101
01:58:40.710 --> 01:58:43.800
james murez: But you know I don't want to be.

1102
01:58:45.120 --> 01:58:45.750
Ivan: disputed.

1103
01:58:47.460 --> 01:59:00.930
melissa diner: i'm Friday I also have a second point of order on this item, you know i've seen people throw it out thrown out of Council meetings for using curse words it's not acceptable were volunteers were not paid so on those grounds alone.

1104
01:59:01.440 --> 01:59:15.600
melissa diner: I don't think that that their public comments should be cut off for that it's it's not public comment, when you start cursing at people or calling out people specifically insulting them like I don't think we should be have to endure that as.

1105
01:59:16.920 --> 01:59:19.440
melissa diner: Volunteers when the City Council doesn't even tolerate it.

1106
01:59:22.320 --> 01:59:30.690
Soledad Ursua: No additional i'd like to say something I understand that a stakeholder can request these things, but with a lot of people, not using the real names, how do we know that they are stakeholders.

1107
01:59:31.110 --> 01:59:43.410
Soledad Ursua: If we've never met them and or know their names and then I also want to ask about just with them, I thought somebody had said before that, for the consent calendar, that it was only for voting board members to pull it off.

1108
01:59:45.660 --> 01:59:48.870
james murez: And so, those are quite both good questions.

1109
01:59:50.010 --> 01:59:56.640
james murez: we're not going to get answers to those tonight I think we're just going to continue along the lines that we have if they needed to stay to reason.

1110
01:59:57.090 --> 02:00:09.090
james murez: And we had a recent stated for nine a and other than that we didn't have any recent stated so nine eight will be removed from the consent calendar and the remainder of the items will be.

1111
02:00:10.830 --> 02:00:26.370
james murez: approved on consent where's that there's there's the agenda and we'll just continue to move along if we're wrong we'll hear about it i'm sure and we'll take it up at our next meeting so nine he has been removed nine be.

1112
02:00:28.290 --> 02:00:29.490
james murez: Nine see.

1113
02:00:30.810 --> 02:00:32.010
james murez: we're both approved.

1114
02:00:33.870 --> 02:00:51.630
james murez: Now we're on to 10 and this project is at 522 Venice boulevard a leak i'm going to stop sharing unless you want me to continue to share what's written here someplace there's a motion, and we need to have that read here do you want to read the motion.

1115
02:00:51.990 --> 02:00:57.780
melissa diner: And then we'll get it set a point of order before we start this, we have a special meeting that's supposed to start in.

1116
02:00:57.780 --> 02:01:00.900
melissa diner: four minutes, so I start before after this.

1117
02:01:00.990 --> 02:01:04.440
james murez: let's let's start that right now and we'll come back to this, thank you, Melissa.

1118
02:01:04.470 --> 02:01:07.950
melissa diner: Like like can we start it right now I don't believe we can start it until nine.

1119
02:01:08.610 --> 02:01:13.590
james murez: yeah well, we can all take a four minute bathroom break or something How does that sound.

1120
02:01:16.920 --> 02:01:19.320
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): If I am correctly you're gonna have to call a recess.

1121
02:01:19.590 --> 02:01:23.820
james murez: recess Thank you Freddie we're going to call a recess for four minutes.

1122
02:01:26.760 --> 02:01:27.180
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

1123
02:01:27.990 --> 02:01:28.560
Alix Gucovsky: Thank you.

1124
02:01:28.740 --> 02:01:32.040
james murez: We will be back exactly at nine o'clock Thank you.

1125
02:05:34.890 --> 02:05:39.630
melissa diner: Are we back i'm ready to cold call Raul whenever everyone else says.

1126
02:05:40.140 --> 02:05:46.770
james murez: yeah Please go ahead, I don't know that we're all back, I see a lot of the video cameras that are not turned on yet.

1127
02:06:03.630 --> 02:06:10.320
james murez: Pretty in and i've been while people are returning, I have a question for you guys from a parliamentarian standpoint.

1128
02:06:11.610 --> 02:06:18.600
james murez: A stakeholder sent me a copy of the Standing rules were describes.

1129
02:06:20.850 --> 02:06:24.150
james murez: The considerations of consent item.

1130
02:06:24.600 --> 02:06:26.220
james murez: In our standing rules it's.

1131
02:06:26.220 --> 02:06:31.200
james murez: it's numbered number 14 in that in the description that's.

1132
02:06:33.420 --> 02:06:35.730
james murez: written out there, it says that.

1133
02:06:36.930 --> 02:06:49.290
james murez: The item that is being asked to be removed, can be removed by either a board member or the general public, but it also goes on to say that they need to state to the board, and the reason for removing it from consent.

1134
02:06:50.040 --> 02:06:56.460
james murez: And my question to you is because it's in our standing rules, does that mean that it would.

1135
02:06:58.920 --> 02:07:05.970
james murez: trump, so to speak, not like the next President, but whether or not it would take precedence over robert's rules.

1136
02:07:10.500 --> 02:07:12.450
james murez: i've been ready to you him yeah.

1137
02:07:13.470 --> 02:07:14.640
james murez: Jim yes.

1138
02:07:14.940 --> 02:07:17.370
Ivan: yeah I was on the phone with Freddie.

1139
02:07:18.480 --> 02:07:21.240
Ivan: What can you please people acceptance, I heard the wreck.

1140
02:07:21.930 --> 02:07:32.040
james murez: yeah it's number 14 in our standing renewables are it very clearly says that either a member of the public or a board member can remove an item from the consent calendar.

1141
02:07:32.070 --> 02:07:32.700
Ivan: Right and.

1142
02:07:33.780 --> 02:07:36.330
james murez: And it goes on to state that.

1143
02:07:37.500 --> 02:07:40.950
james murez: They have to state a reason to the board why the item is being removed.

1144
02:07:41.880 --> 02:07:42.330
Ivan: Now right.

1145
02:07:42.390 --> 02:07:54.840
james murez: question for you is is if that was an error, because robert's rules, perhaps has a higher level of authority or who is the higher level of authority are standing roles.

1146
02:07:54.930 --> 02:07:56.640
james murez: Yes, robert's rules of order.

1147
02:07:56.970 --> 02:07:58.920
Ivan: robert's rules is at the bottom.

1148
02:07:59.340 --> 02:08:01.740
james murez: Okay, so so that means that.

1149
02:08:02.100 --> 02:08:03.930
Ivan: Everything trump's robert's rules.

1150
02:08:04.080 --> 02:08:04.890
james murez: Okay, all right.

1151
02:08:06.150 --> 02:08:09.510
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): To come from the hierarchy, you have your bylaws as your governing documents.

1152
02:08:09.720 --> 02:08:10.110
james murez: yeah.

1153
02:08:10.290 --> 02:08:13.500
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): you're standing rules and then robert's rules for everything else.

1154
02:08:13.650 --> 02:08:19.770
james murez: Okay, all right great so we're on we're on firm ground here person does have to state their reasoning.

1155
02:08:21.000 --> 02:08:21.540
james murez: Thank you.

1156
02:08:22.290 --> 02:08:27.510
james murez: God, so now we want to move on to our.

1157
02:08:28.290 --> 02:08:30.930
Ivan: Special i'm Kim.

1158
02:08:31.140 --> 02:08:36.270
Ivan: yeah will you go on, did you make the announcement that the other things pass.

1159
02:08:38.160 --> 02:08:39.210
james murez: yeah I already did.

1160
02:08:40.410 --> 02:08:41.310
james murez: yeah we did.

1161
02:08:41.790 --> 02:08:44.880
Ivan: We did Okay, thank you for the record okay.

1162
02:08:45.630 --> 02:08:47.580
james murez: No, that was done that was done before we read.

1163
02:08:47.610 --> 02:08:53.160
james murez: Okay, let me, let me, let me silence you Ivan and let's go back to our.

1164
02:08:54.180 --> 02:09:06.990
james murez: Special Meeting, let me just mentioned that it didn't necessarily have to be a special meeting it just had to be a time sensitive meeting a time certain meeting, excuse me, because it was posted 72 hours in advance of this point in time.

1165
02:09:08.790 --> 02:09:09.030
Ivan: Oh.

1166
02:09:10.560 --> 02:09:13.590
james murez: Somebody has unmute themselves or mute themselves.

1167
02:09:15.000 --> 02:09:17.610
james murez: So let's go ahead and call this.

1168
02:09:21.030 --> 02:09:36.270
james murez: Special Board of officers special 24 hour virtual meeting agenda 20 September 21 2021 time 9am time certain agenda to order the time now is 904.

1169
02:09:37.440 --> 02:09:41.970
james murez: Melissa went to take roll call vote, please let me roll call the order the roll call.

1170
02:09:46.110 --> 02:09:46.770
james murez: Melissa.

1171
02:09:47.010 --> 02:09:48.270
melissa diner: yeah sure Jim.

1172
02:09:48.930 --> 02:09:49.620
james murez: Yes, i'm here.

1173
02:09:51.030 --> 02:09:51.540
melissa diner: daffodil.

1174
02:09:52.110 --> 02:09:52.710
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

1175
02:09:52.770 --> 02:09:54.720
melissa diner: I will i'm here, Andrea.

1176
02:09:57.630 --> 02:09:58.230
melissa diner: colletti.

1177
02:10:01.440 --> 02:10:02.610
melissa diner: Not here leaks.

1178
02:10:03.600 --> 02:10:05.460
melissa diner: Here vicki.

1179
02:10:05.820 --> 02:10:07.110
melissa diner: Here Saima.

1180
02:10:09.240 --> 02:10:09.660
Sima Kostovetsky: here.

1181
02:10:10.050 --> 02:10:11.430
Alley Bean: Ali here.

1182
02:10:16.350 --> 02:10:16.740
melissa diner: hi.

1183
02:10:17.310 --> 02:10:18.900
melissa diner: Here cj.

1184
02:10:24.030 --> 02:10:24.750
melissa diner: cj here.

1185
02:10:25.860 --> 02:10:26.520
james murez: He was.

1186
02:10:26.970 --> 02:10:27.810
Mike bravo.

1187
02:10:31.800 --> 02:10:32.220
melissa diner: Bravo.

1188
02:10:33.300 --> 02:10:33.600
Mike Bravo: here.

1189
02:10:34.080 --> 02:10:35.130
melissa diner: Thank you, it was okay.

1190
02:10:37.830 --> 02:10:38.430
melissa diner: slow down.

1191
02:10:38.790 --> 02:10:40.440
melissa diner: Here all over.

1192
02:10:41.010 --> 02:10:42.600
melissa diner: Here, James job.

1193
02:10:43.200 --> 02:10:44.460
melissa diner: Fair nikko.

1194
02:10:46.350 --> 02:10:46.710
Nico Ruderman: i'm here.

1195
02:10:47.400 --> 02:10:48.420
melissa diner: Clark Brown.

1196
02:10:48.870 --> 02:10:50.760
melissa diner: Your stand Muhammad.

1197
02:10:52.260 --> 02:10:54.120
melissa diner: is not here, Robert.

1198
02:10:54.930 --> 02:10:55.350
here.

1199
02:10:56.940 --> 02:10:57.570
melissa diner: Bruno here.

1200
02:10:58.020 --> 02:10:58.650
Bruno Hernandez: Here yeah.

1201
02:10:58.890 --> 02:10:59.880
melissa diner: Great Jason.

1202
02:11:00.300 --> 02:11:02.010
melissa diner: Your thanks that's it.

1203
02:11:02.580 --> 02:11:04.350
james murez: Did you get cj she was here.

1204
02:11:05.760 --> 02:11:06.600
melissa diner: cj are here.

1205
02:11:06.990 --> 02:11:08.400
melissa diner: yeah okay cool thing.

1206
02:11:08.730 --> 02:11:10.260
james murez: And Andreas are you back now.

1207
02:11:11.340 --> 02:11:11.910
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

1208
02:11:12.000 --> 02:11:15.450
melissa diner: Sorry okay great everybody's here, except Stan great.

1209
02:11:15.870 --> 02:11:22.080
james murez: And we have two hands up Andreas and and Sally do you guys have something you want to say just about the roll call.

1210
02:11:23.550 --> 02:11:25.800
Alley Bean: I was just about the special meeting.

1211
02:11:27.780 --> 02:11:32.130
james murez: Okay, give us a second let's see where we're at here.

1212
02:11:37.200 --> 02:11:42.450
james murez: Okay, so about the special meaning, let me think where would that come in.

1213
02:11:43.470 --> 02:11:44.910
james murez: So it's just a general comment.

1214
02:11:45.240 --> 02:11:49.650
Alley Bean: No, I wanted to make a motion that we could postpone it, I sort of agree with that first.

1215
02:11:50.160 --> 02:12:04.080
Alley Bean: One of the earlier speakers that none, none of the things really pressing, so why Why are we having a special meeting about these things, why can't they just be at the next meeting that was so I was going to make a motion that we could do this later at the next meeting.

1216
02:12:04.260 --> 02:12:10.680
james murez: Well, it wasn't because it was a special meeting was because it was it was accidentally left off the original agenda.

1217
02:12:10.920 --> 02:12:19.080
melissa diner: And the other, can you comment exchanges are somewhat pressing or know like that's what I think aren't aren't the changes to the bylaws pressing or am I.

1218
02:12:19.320 --> 02:12:20.610
james murez: Standing room, they are fairly.

1219
02:12:20.640 --> 02:12:21.540
james murez: Yes, yes.

1220
02:12:26.340 --> 02:12:27.060
james murez: So I don't know.

1221
02:12:27.420 --> 02:12:28.950
melissa diner: entertaining that motion.

1222
02:12:29.010 --> 02:12:32.880
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: or not we're kind of wasting time right now why don't we just get through it quickly.

1223
02:12:32.970 --> 02:12:33.480
yeah.

1224
02:12:35.250 --> 02:12:39.270
james murez: So unless somebody's gonna second your your your motion to postpone this.

1225
02:12:41.310 --> 02:12:42.780
Alix Gucovsky: i'll second it's a leaks.

1226
02:12:43.230 --> 02:12:47.520
james murez: Okay, then we have to have public comment, and then we have to go to.

1227
02:12:49.320 --> 02:12:54.510
james murez: board discussion, and then we have to have I mean this is going to take an extra half an hour so Okay, we can do that.

1228
02:12:56.520 --> 02:12:58.500
james murez: there's two fairly simple items.

1229
02:13:00.270 --> 02:13:00.750
Okay.

1230
02:13:02.160 --> 02:13:03.570
james murez: let's start with public comment.

1231
02:13:07.920 --> 02:13:09.510
james murez: puppet go ahead, you talk.

1232
02:13:14.760 --> 02:13:16.980
- Puppet: Yes, and I will quote.

1233
02:13:18.120 --> 02:13:25.170
- Puppet: A special meeting does not to be used as a means of fix mistakes on a general meeting.

1234
02:13:26.790 --> 02:13:38.760
- Puppet: that's right and I got for Alex for a second thing that that's right, we should not be doing this, just for the sake of having a meeting and, by the way you proved I was right, what do you mean.

1235
02:13:39.270 --> 02:13:48.930
- Puppet: Well, I gave a reason why I wanted to pull a concern items it doesn't say you have to agree with my reasons, as long as I gave on.

1236
02:13:50.760 --> 02:13:51.900
james murez: Where you're off.

1237
02:13:51.930 --> 02:13:53.460
- Puppet: you're off topic, yes, no.

1238
02:13:55.860 --> 02:13:56.130
- Puppet: i'm.

1239
02:13:57.900 --> 02:13:58.680
- Puppet: Not insane.

1240
02:14:01.140 --> 02:14:02.550
james murez: Okay i'm.

1241
02:14:05.250 --> 02:14:06.330
james murez: Sean go ahead.

1242
02:14:12.180 --> 02:14:13.140
james murez: Sean go ahead.

1243
02:14:19.920 --> 02:14:21.330
james murez: Hello Sean.

1244
02:14:27.000 --> 02:14:28.080
james murez: No, no.

1245
02:14:30.150 --> 02:14:30.330
melissa diner: No.

1246
02:14:31.020 --> 02:14:32.280
james murez: Okay yeah we'll come back.

1247
02:14:33.120 --> 02:14:34.980
james murez: Helen go ahead.

1248
02:14:36.570 --> 02:14:42.750
Helen Fallon: Now, this is a misuse of the special calling a special needs should have just been added to the Ad COM draft.

1249
02:14:43.230 --> 02:14:52.140
Helen Fallon: And appeared under new business at the end of the agenda with the other two emotions, the repast by this committee, because you Jim admitted that you had this in plenty of time.

1250
02:14:52.380 --> 02:14:59.460
Helen Fallon: To post it along with the board agenda, so why did you need to call a special meeting, other than guaranteeing that this God her.

1251
02:14:59.910 --> 02:15:03.870
Helen Fallon: And there's nothing urgent about either of these motions.

1252
02:15:04.470 --> 02:15:17.670
Helen Fallon: One of them is so poorly written and i'll comment on it, if you move it on but you know postpone it to the next meeting, and your problem with your consent calendar issue is, you have poorly written standing rules, Mr gold puppet is exactly.

1253
02:15:18.630 --> 02:15:23.040
james murez: Thank you, you are off topic i'm Lisa redmond go ahead place.

1254
02:15:24.240 --> 02:15:35.910
Lisa Redmond: yeah I support alleys motion and I also want to point out that I thought it was really rude the way Mr mirrors and Mr turbo treated.

1255
02:15:37.200 --> 02:15:47.670
Lisa Redmond: alley when she made a motion and disregarded and there is no respect for your fellow board members so let's have consideration for everybody, thank you.

1256
02:15:48.570 --> 02:15:53.280
james murez: Thank you i'm Robin through to so go ahead place.

1257
02:16:03.060 --> 02:16:04.530
RobinRudisill: i'm here can you hear me.

1258
02:16:04.860 --> 02:16:12.300
RobinRudisill: yep okay good Robin router so first of all, is not clear on the site that there was a second special meeting it was very difficult to find it.

1259
02:16:12.900 --> 02:16:21.630
RobinRudisill: And, especially for a rules change, you should have normal notice and especially when it's clearly not urgent rules changes deserve.

1260
02:16:21.930 --> 02:16:32.040
RobinRudisill: You know plenty of public notice and I object to the use of a special meeting for these changes they're clearly not urgent, and I also really question the elimination of a long time posting location.

1261
02:16:33.060 --> 02:16:33.810
RobinRudisill: The library.

1262
02:16:34.710 --> 02:16:35.400
james murez: Thank you.

1263
02:16:35.790 --> 02:16:38.460
RobinRudisill: should say in the motion what's being eliminated and you don't.

1264
02:16:39.060 --> 02:16:40.530
james murez: Santiago.

1265
02:16:41.250 --> 02:16:41.820
james murez: Go ahead, please.

1266
02:16:41.850 --> 02:16:43.440
Santiago Ortiz: Yes, hi Thank you very much.

1267
02:16:44.580 --> 02:16:50.940
Santiago Ortiz: I am a person representing project 9am i'd like to know why we were pulled out.

1268
02:16:52.020 --> 02:16:57.540
james murez: yeah that's a different item on the agenda we're going to your off topic so we'll get back to you.

1269
02:16:57.720 --> 02:17:00.240
Alix Gucovsky: Jim i'm answering him sorry to interrupt.

1270
02:17:00.600 --> 02:17:01.260
james murez: No, no, no, no.

1271
02:17:01.290 --> 02:17:02.040
Alley Bean: leaks work that.

1272
02:17:02.070 --> 02:17:03.990
james murez: You can't do that right now we'll get back to it.

1273
02:17:05.730 --> 02:17:06.780
james murez: i'm.

1274
02:17:07.800 --> 02:17:09.990
james murez: Calling caller user one.

1275
02:17:12.150 --> 02:17:15.570
james murez: Calling user one I don't have a phone number.

1276
02:17:20.670 --> 02:17:24.060
james murez: Okay that's obviously a prank clearly not on topic.

1277
02:17:26.940 --> 02:17:31.470
james murez: Okay, so that got through all of our public comments.

1278
02:17:36.330 --> 02:17:43.380
james murez: And let me just take that person out of the call all together permission to talk and where did they go down to here.

1279
02:17:44.700 --> 02:17:46.050
We go.

1280
02:17:47.820 --> 02:17:51.450
james murez: Thank you um OK, so now board discussion.

1281
02:17:52.470 --> 02:17:54.660
james murez: Whether or not we're going to table this.

1282
02:17:57.030 --> 02:17:59.340
melissa diner: I want to make a comment whenever you call me Jim.

1283
02:18:00.180 --> 02:18:03.870
james murez: Okay, I can't tell if your hands up to go ahead, your hand is up you've got the floor.

1284
02:18:05.280 --> 02:18:06.900
james murez: me, yes, Melissa go ahead.

1285
02:18:07.680 --> 02:18:15.960
melissa diner: Okay, so I just think that these two items that we're going to discuss do not deserve this much time.

1286
02:18:16.290 --> 02:18:24.870
melissa diner: I want people to start being able to conserve their energy to come together on things that we all can get behind and get creative in our Community.

1287
02:18:25.200 --> 02:18:33.630
melissa diner: I think we've given too much time to negativity and I also want us to just think you know, like work smarter not harder.

1288
02:18:33.960 --> 02:18:41.820
melissa diner: We have actually fairly short agenda tonight, so I think, regardless of what you think of how it's posted it was posted 72 hours ahead.

1289
02:18:42.120 --> 02:18:50.070
melissa diner: We did this last month actually 24 hour notice I think everyone should treat peep things fairly and i'm disappointed that.

1290
02:18:50.550 --> 02:19:01.560
melissa diner: we're not treating it fairly we did this last month we did it, it was pulled off we did tons of work, this was posted 72 hours and and so let's just get through it and be smart about it, thank you.

1291
02:19:02.070 --> 02:19:04.530
james murez: Thank you, Melissa believe you have your hand up.

1292
02:19:05.820 --> 02:19:11.340
Alix Gucovsky: Thanks Jim so a couple things just to address why this was done at last month's meeting.

1293
02:19:11.820 --> 02:19:24.480
Alix Gucovsky: And the agenda request for 522 minutes, which is the project that was special meeting last month was sent in well advance, and it was mistakenly not put on the agenda and the applicant at the time, felt it was pressing.

1294
02:19:24.900 --> 02:19:40.560
Alix Gucovsky: And then we determine there was more need for Community so that would not have been a special meeting had it been had it been posted as to this being a special meeting these are our rules, one of the one of the motions is actually in conflict with our bylaws.

1295
02:19:41.940 --> 02:19:56.820
Alix Gucovsky: I don't really understand why these rules are important there's no sort of background documentation on why they're important why they need to be passed first why we're not doing bylaws first what the strategy is for this, and now all of a sudden it's a special needed.

1296
02:19:58.230 --> 02:20:10.920
Alix Gucovsky: So yes, I agree with Melissa that we, we should try and work smarter and not harder, but this seems to be an abuse of the special meaning system, and it also seems to really you know not.

1297
02:20:11.550 --> 02:20:18.720
Alix Gucovsky: Give the proper attention to standing rules bylaws etc that I think not only the board, but the public deserve.

1298
02:20:19.920 --> 02:20:21.960
james murez: Thank you, any other public comment.

1299
02:20:23.760 --> 02:20:24.840
james murez: Excuse me board comment.

1300
02:20:26.250 --> 02:20:33.000
james murez: Public comment was closed, I will make a comment For those of you that have not been participating in committee meetings.

1301
02:20:33.750 --> 02:20:53.850
james murez: They are all being recorded and there, including transcripts on the website this meeting, rules and selections was recorded the items were raised and discussed in great detail, there was no hidden agenda, the information was posted for the board meeting.

1302
02:20:54.870 --> 02:21:07.350
james murez: On Saturday, but it got posted a little bit late so that's why we put it this way, probably should not have been called a special meaning should have just been called the SEC board meeting that would have removed that conflict.

1303
02:21:07.980 --> 02:21:16.620
james murez: But it's here in front of us now and we can get through it tonight, there are two fairly simple items I understand that people may want to talk about them and we can do that.

1304
02:21:17.490 --> 02:21:22.500
james murez: But if we don't hear him tonight we're going to hear him next month and next month, we may have more things yet so.

1305
02:21:24.090 --> 02:21:32.370
james murez: I will see I see two more hands have gone up we'll hear those and then we'll get on to voting on whether or not to postpone this cj go ahead, please.

1306
02:21:32.460 --> 02:21:51.240
CJ Cole: I want to thank did you for Jim we did not have any significant attendance at our meeting in fact i'm not even sure we had anybody in the audience, this was just pushed through, it was pushed through with none of our Committee having anything to do with setting the agenda.

1307
02:21:52.500 --> 02:21:56.550
CJ Cole: and frankly I 100% agree with Ali.

1308
02:21:58.410 --> 02:22:06.270
james murez: Okay, thank you cj and I didn't say we have a large attendance I said we did discuss it and you, you participated in the discussion.

1309
02:22:07.620 --> 02:22:08.850
james murez: So that go ahead, please.

1310
02:22:09.300 --> 02:22:23.190
Soledad Ursua: I think that we need to make sure that we have heart stops by 1130 i'm gonna stay on voting from this I don't care if we hear it or not, but I think we just need to have heart stops, because we really lose the public, so I these meetings go way longer than anyone tense so that's.

1311
02:22:23.880 --> 02:22:24.990
james murez: Okay, thank you, I agree.

1312
02:22:26.340 --> 02:22:29.430
james murez: Okay let's take a boat on this Melissa when I call.

1313
02:22:31.110 --> 02:22:32.460
james murez: The vote, please take a.

1314
02:22:32.520 --> 02:22:37.830
james murez: Take a roll call vote jam, yes, no excuse me, excuse me i'm voting no.

1315
02:22:38.130 --> 02:22:39.390
Sima Kostovetsky: I don't want to wait, can you.

1316
02:22:39.600 --> 02:22:42.180
Sima Kostovetsky: Can you please just clarify what we're voting on.

1317
02:22:42.240 --> 02:22:47.490
melissa diner: Where we're voting to postpone or not, yes, is to postpone know is to hear it tonight.

1318
02:22:47.940 --> 02:22:49.020
james murez: Then, my vote is no.

1319
02:22:49.650 --> 02:22:50.070
melissa diner: Thank you.

1320
02:22:51.540 --> 02:22:52.020
Daffodil Tyminski: No.

1321
02:22:52.650 --> 02:22:54.360
melissa diner: I vote no leaks.

1322
02:22:56.340 --> 02:22:56.730
Alix Gucovsky: Yes.

1323
02:22:58.230 --> 02:22:58.680
melissa diner: vicki.

1324
02:22:59.040 --> 02:22:59.460
No.

1325
02:23:02.280 --> 02:23:02.760
Sima Kostovetsky: No.

1326
02:23:03.900 --> 02:23:04.320
Sima Kostovetsky: Ali.

1327
02:23:04.800 --> 02:23:06.450
melissa diner: Yes, hi.

1328
02:23:06.870 --> 02:23:08.700
melissa diner: Know like bravo.

1329
02:23:09.210 --> 02:23:09.690
Yes.

1330
02:23:11.220 --> 02:23:11.700
melissa diner: Okay.

1331
02:23:12.690 --> 02:23:14.760
melissa diner: No, so that.

1332
02:23:15.360 --> 02:23:16.080
Soledad Ursua: I abstained.

1333
02:23:20.040 --> 02:23:20.520
melissa diner: Oliver.

1334
02:23:20.940 --> 02:23:21.330
know.

1335
02:23:24.120 --> 02:23:24.780
melissa diner: James rob.

1336
02:23:25.500 --> 02:23:25.980
Yes.

1337
02:23:28.500 --> 02:23:28.920
melissa diner: NICO.

1338
02:23:34.800 --> 02:23:35.280
melissa diner: Clark.

1339
02:23:35.730 --> 02:23:36.240
know.

1340
02:23:37.620 --> 02:23:38.370
melissa diner: Roberts of it, oh.

1341
02:23:39.060 --> 02:23:40.620
melissa diner: No, no.

1342
02:23:40.980 --> 02:23:41.520
No.

1343
02:23:45.480 --> 02:23:46.380
melissa diner: Facing sugars.

1344
02:23:47.070 --> 02:23:47.580
Yes.

1345
02:23:50.460 --> 02:23:51.510
melissa diner: And cj.

1346
02:23:52.290 --> 02:23:53.010
CJ Cole: Oh yes.

1347
02:23:54.810 --> 02:23:55.110
No.

1348
02:23:57.150 --> 02:23:57.690
Andrea Boccaletti: stains.

1349
02:23:58.290 --> 02:24:01.140
melissa diner: hold on one second I haven't got to yet Thank you.

1350
02:24:23.910 --> 02:24:28.110
melissa diner: So the motion fails 911 three.

1351
02:24:29.490 --> 02:24:30.990
james murez: OK so moving along.

1352
02:24:33.390 --> 02:24:35.340
james murez: let's go back to sharing the screen.

1353
02:24:40.320 --> 02:24:43.260
james murez: Ex parte communications or conflict of interest anybody.

1354
02:24:43.530 --> 02:24:43.980
Ivan: Have any.

1355
02:24:44.130 --> 02:24:44.490
Ivan: Of them.

1356
02:24:45.180 --> 02:24:48.510
Ivan: Yes, I am with the true thing 911 three.

1357
02:24:49.350 --> 02:24:51.270
Ivan: Correct many people.

1358
02:24:52.890 --> 02:24:53.490
melissa diner: Wanting to.

1359
02:24:54.750 --> 02:24:59.130
Ivan: Know 20 and you can have 23.

1360
02:25:00.360 --> 02:25:01.650
Ivan: You have to too many votes.

1361
02:25:03.480 --> 02:25:05.010
melissa diner: I know I mean I don't.

1362
02:25:06.420 --> 02:25:08.430
melissa diner: You want me to send it to you to verify.

1363
02:25:09.690 --> 02:25:11.280
melissa diner: count them again, then you.

1364
02:25:11.370 --> 02:25:12.960
james murez: You bet you every counter Melissa.

1365
02:25:13.650 --> 02:25:18.030
Ivan: Now there are 23 people voting and you can't have that.

1366
02:25:24.750 --> 02:25:25.920
Ivan: Creating Europe again.

1367
02:25:26.640 --> 02:25:43.680
melissa diner: Oh sorry I just had sugar is down twice, so I think that's it 125678518 811 three.

1368
02:25:47.460 --> 02:25:49.050
Ivan: You still have too many, I think.

1369
02:25:51.780 --> 02:25:54.480
Ivan: That you have 22 you're only 21 boardman.

1370
02:25:56.640 --> 02:26:05.550
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): There they're currently in your panel there's 22 he is take out Ivan and myself on that list so there's total 20 board members.

1371
02:26:05.850 --> 02:26:07.230
Ivan: On the panel, but we didn't vote.

1372
02:26:08.160 --> 02:26:12.480
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I know because i'm looking at the panel number there's only 22 and a panelist side.

1373
02:26:12.630 --> 02:26:28.050
melissa diner: I mean you guys counted out with me, then, because I totally appreciate it, and once we press the leaks Ali Mike James rob enjoyable bloody cj Jason sugars see oh gosh I don't know why seizures in there twice sorry I don't know what.

1374
02:26:29.040 --> 02:26:33.180
Alix Gucovsky: The lesson a Melissa I think Andrea so.

1375
02:26:33.210 --> 02:26:33.930
melissa diner: I have them.

1376
02:26:34.080 --> 02:26:45.000
melissa diner: I have them all is i've seen the issue was like when it's fine when I copy and paste, so I think that should should do it 711 three cj and Jason we're repeated twice.

1377
02:26:45.390 --> 02:26:49.230
melissa diner: Okay yeah we're good with that I can read it all out happy to.

1378
02:26:49.830 --> 02:26:50.310
Ivan: Thank you.

1379
02:26:50.880 --> 02:26:52.920
james murez: Well, we have it recorded, so we.

1380
02:26:53.310 --> 02:26:54.300
james murez: Go back to the recording.

1381
02:26:54.540 --> 02:26:54.870
james murez: Okay.

1382
02:26:55.200 --> 02:26:56.130
melissa diner: Thank you, thank you.

1383
02:27:00.180 --> 02:27:02.220
james murez: Thank you for the dog in the background, he agreed.

1384
02:27:03.360 --> 02:27:06.840
james murez: let's move along okay any ex parte communications.

1385
02:27:08.040 --> 02:27:17.310
james murez: Hearing none seeing no hands raised will move along old business, we have none new business for a standing role Oliver you want to go ahead and read that for us.

1386
02:27:17.790 --> 02:27:18.240
sure.

1387
02:27:19.410 --> 02:27:20.640
james murez: You make the motion, please.

1388
02:27:21.600 --> 02:27:31.500
Oliver Fries: Make i'm making the motion the Venice neighborhood Council recommends one delete the first three paragraphs of section six and replace it with the following language.

1389
02:27:32.130 --> 02:27:49.230
Oliver Fries: Meaning Shelby conducted in conformance with the Los Angeles virtual governance plan to third and fourth line and paragraph four delete the posting location and replace it with beyond broke at 681 Venice boulevard Venice California 90291.

1390
02:27:51.240 --> 02:27:52.170
james murez: Do I hear a second.

1391
02:27:53.970 --> 02:27:55.500
melissa diner: i'll second at Melissa.

1392
02:27:55.950 --> 02:27:56.520
james murez: Thank you.

1393
02:27:57.960 --> 02:28:03.720
james murez: um anybody need any clarification about what he read seeing oh.

1394
02:28:06.270 --> 02:28:14.700
Alley Bean: I believe i'm not trying to be negative about having proposed this whole thing, but I only saw this 10 seconds before we got on that there was another agenda.

1395
02:28:14.880 --> 02:28:15.450
Alley Bean: The new one.

1396
02:28:15.720 --> 02:28:21.600
Alley Bean: Because I didn't see it when I downloaded the agenda so, for example, I don't know what any of those paragraphs are are you saying that.

1397
02:28:21.810 --> 02:28:22.230
james murez: We will.

1398
02:28:22.500 --> 02:28:27.510
james murez: allie allie let me interrupt you you're talking about the content now let's let's just.

1399
02:28:27.840 --> 02:28:29.010
Alley Bean: Like you're saying that I.

1400
02:28:29.010 --> 02:28:31.980
Alley Bean: don't know what what location we're talking about take I would.

1401
02:28:32.220 --> 02:28:34.200
Alley Bean: I would say don't know what paragraphs are.

1402
02:28:34.350 --> 02:28:42.060
james murez: I would suggest, why don't we take public comment, maybe you want to look that up it's available on the dnc website.

1403
02:28:42.750 --> 02:28:43.560
Alley Bean: Where, though.

1404
02:28:44.220 --> 02:28:47.250
james murez: it's if you look on the dnc website it's under.

1405
02:28:49.380 --> 02:28:50.910
Soledad Ursua: Someone shared on their screen.

1406
02:28:51.120 --> 02:28:53.820
james murez: yeah I can do that hold on a second.

1407
02:28:53.970 --> 02:28:58.080
Alley Bean: Sorry it's just I saw this at the very last minute, you know right when I was looking.

1408
02:28:59.370 --> 02:29:00.420
Alley Bean: For the zoom link.

1409
02:29:00.630 --> 02:29:01.020
james murez: yeah.

1410
02:29:01.080 --> 02:29:02.910
Alley Bean: yeah we were having a special meeting.

1411
02:29:03.420 --> 02:29:05.610
Oliver Fries: I have it, I have it up, so I can.

1412
02:29:05.910 --> 02:29:07.950
james murez: Oh, you do Okay, can you share your screen that going.

1413
02:29:07.950 --> 02:29:10.290
Oliver Fries: On I can find it pretty quickly here hold on.

1414
02:29:11.100 --> 02:29:14.370
Alley Bean: Sorry, I just I don't know most of these paragraphs in laws.

1415
02:29:14.430 --> 02:29:17.250
james murez: And Andre do you have a question in the meantime about.

1416
02:29:18.300 --> 02:29:19.410
james murez: The the.

1417
02:29:20.670 --> 02:29:21.510
james murez: Item that was read.

1418
02:29:22.650 --> 02:29:25.320
james murez: we're not discussing the content of it we're just discussing.

1419
02:29:26.850 --> 02:29:28.260
james murez: That there was emotion man.

1420
02:29:29.940 --> 02:29:34.680
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, my question also was what what what location has been deleted.

1421
02:29:34.920 --> 02:29:35.310
james murez: OK.

1422
02:29:36.030 --> 02:29:39.270
Oliver Fries: OK, so the locations being deleted are.

1423
02:29:39.570 --> 02:29:40.890
james murez: Can you enlarge out a little bit.

1424
02:29:42.690 --> 02:29:43.290
Oliver Fries: Is that work.

1425
02:29:43.470 --> 02:29:44.610
james murez: Much better Thank you.

1426
02:29:44.700 --> 02:29:49.080
Oliver Fries: Okay, so i'll just highlight all highlight them here.

1427
02:29:51.990 --> 02:29:54.360
Oliver Fries: So we've got the Venice library.

1428
02:29:55.890 --> 02:29:57.750
Oliver Fries: That oakwood REC Center.

1429
02:29:59.460 --> 02:30:00.330
Oliver Fries: abbott's habit.

1430
02:30:01.620 --> 02:30:09.030
Oliver Fries: Which isn't even there anymore for Dino and are at 14 one habit Kenyan then ground works coffee on rose So those are the ones being removed.

1431
02:30:13.380 --> 02:30:15.240
Oliver Fries: And then, for the other paragraphs.

1432
02:30:16.740 --> 02:30:26.790
Oliver Fries: we've got language here regarding in person, meetings and we're replacing it with basically you need to follow the guidelines.

1433
02:30:27.840 --> 02:30:32.220
Oliver Fries: posted by empower la their virtual governance, we can.

1434
02:30:33.630 --> 02:30:42.570
Oliver Fries: Post this link but it's guidelines that were created during coven just guiding how to run virtual meetings.

1435
02:30:47.850 --> 02:30:49.170
james murez: Okay, thank you.

1436
02:30:49.650 --> 02:30:50.520
Oliver Fries: yeah that's it.

1437
02:30:50.850 --> 02:30:51.210
Okay.

1438
02:30:53.130 --> 02:30:55.110
james murez: um you want to leave the other paragraph on.

1439
02:30:55.980 --> 02:30:58.920
Oliver Fries: Sure sorry yeah.

1440
02:30:59.100 --> 02:31:01.140
james murez: The original paragraph just anybody.

1441
02:31:01.470 --> 02:31:02.490
Oliver Fries: yeah no problem.

1442
02:31:02.700 --> 02:31:04.740
james murez: Can everybody see that there we go okay.

1443
02:31:06.090 --> 02:31:08.610
james murez: um so now let's go to.

1444
02:31:09.870 --> 02:31:11.970
james murez: Speakers that had their hands up.

1445
02:31:18.120 --> 02:31:22.890
james murez: valley Sola dad and Andreas will come back to you let's go to public comment first.

1446
02:31:24.420 --> 02:31:30.390
james murez: So public comment Helen is the last one to speak and we'll start with Sean go ahead Sean.

1447
02:31:35.820 --> 02:31:37.080
james murez: Sean go ahead, please.

1448
02:31:51.180 --> 02:31:53.700
james murez: Sean I tried to unmute you twice.

1449
02:31:55.110 --> 02:31:56.850
james murez: doesn't seem to be unmuted.

1450
02:31:57.810 --> 02:31:58.410
melissa diner: no fun.

1451
02:32:00.330 --> 02:32:07.050
james murez: yeah but his hands up, it was up last time, too, I feel bad if he doesn't get a chance to speak all right puppet go ahead.

1452
02:32:10.980 --> 02:32:16.320
- Puppet: Yes, and if you can refer to my hand properly as off I find and very offensive.

1453
02:32:17.670 --> 02:32:30.810
- Puppet: Now we are the puppet attended the meeting, the committee meeting didn't it oh yeah we did yes and yeah the the French fry man was the one sharing itself.

1454
02:32:31.290 --> 02:32:42.210
- Puppet: We want mandatory notice posted at pizza kitchen in Marina del rey because everybody from Venice goes over to Marina del rey now to eat.

1455
02:32:42.600 --> 02:32:52.800
- Puppet: Because Venice is the fucking homeless encampment shithole and nobody wants to go there anymore, they go over to janice hons area in Marina del rey.

1456
02:32:53.520 --> 02:33:07.680
- Puppet: Oh, I suck at that, yes, and once again, remember, a member of the public may pulling the item up the consent calendar and give any reason they want and that's valid under the Rules, not what you think the reason is.

1457
02:33:08.700 --> 02:33:11.370
- Puppet: I agree, yes that's right and we.

1458
02:33:14.910 --> 02:33:15.510
Have a deal.

1459
02:33:17.130 --> 02:33:18.990
- Puppet: Well, thank you, thanks.

1460
02:33:22.470 --> 02:33:23.970
james murez: Robin router so go ahead, please.

1461
02:33:24.900 --> 02:33:36.030
RobinRudisill: Is Robin first I strongly oppose removing ground works in the library what's the reason why are we taking away public notice of these meetings, if anything, we should be increasing our outreach.

1462
02:33:36.390 --> 02:33:42.630
RobinRudisill: You need to say in the motion what's being deleted also you shouldn't have to look up the scanning rules to know what the motion is saying.

1463
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RobinRudisill: that's preposterous there's, not even a link to the standing roles, you need to modify your emotion to say what's being eliminated, but better yet inadequate public notice for this, you need to vote no and redo it next month with proper notice to the public is, this is a takeaway.

1464
02:33:59.430 --> 02:34:00.660
james murez: Thank you for your comment.

1465
02:34:03.210 --> 02:34:06.330
james murez: next speaker Margaret malloy.

1466
02:34:07.380 --> 02:34:14.070
Margaret Molloy: completely agree with Robin I think you know people have been traumatized by Code and the shutdown of everything libraries coffee shops.

1467
02:34:14.550 --> 02:34:25.410
Margaret Molloy: Now you're now you're instead of like welcoming people back you're removing those outreach places it's just not acceptable whatsoever it's a very unwelcome.

1468
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Margaret Molloy: effort and the President as an ex officio Member and every committee that's where a fine you know.

1469
02:34:33.990 --> 02:34:42.480
james murez: that's all topic that Thank you that's off topic we'll come back to that one you got another another chance later for that Nick oh go ahead, please.

1470
02:34:45.270 --> 02:34:50.430
Nick Antonicello: yeah on this on this most negative President, because I have a problem with.

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Nick Antonicello: Latin location, the physical locations that were identified during that meeting I don't know why, for example, you know and.

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Nick Antonicello: Cows and or some other places that are in fact open get lots of local, so I would revisit the amount of places the physical notice can go and it's a lot more than what we're getting here, thank you.

1473
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james murez: Thank you, Nick.

1474
02:35:21.840 --> 02:35:23.490
james murez: Lisa redmond go ahead, please.

1475
02:35:25.980 --> 02:35:37.740
Lisa Redmond: Yes, I understand, removing a location that's been out of business for quite some time, but I agree with others and, if anything, we should be increasing locations and is it coming down to.

1476
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Lisa Redmond: Your tired and I know is it stated many times, your volunteers are not paid you don't want to go to these extra locations and post other notices that we can find Community volunteers to do that.

1477
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Lisa Redmond: Also, the part about removing the other language about in person meetings.

1478
02:35:54.210 --> 02:36:04.140
Lisa Redmond: Is that mean that you know, at the end of the year when we maybe go back to regular in person meetings or whatever that's gonna happen we're gonna have another 24 hours special notice to add that language back in.

1479
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Lisa Redmond: Maybe it might be better not remove that language and just add in in in the case, why we're meeting virtually these are virtual rules, please don't take away libraries and oakwood REC Center and add cows and even more Thank you.

1480
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Thank you.

1481
02:36:22.950 --> 02:36:23.970
james murez: i'm.

1482
02:36:25.350 --> 02:36:25.770
Ivan: Jim.

1483
02:36:25.950 --> 02:36:26.550
james murez: Yes.

1484
02:36:26.790 --> 02:36:28.800
Ivan: Can I make a point of information here.

1485
02:36:29.310 --> 02:36:30.060
james murez: No let's.

1486
02:36:30.120 --> 02:36:34.800
james murez: finish with public cloud mobile wait went public we got two more speakers.

1487
02:36:36.930 --> 02:36:38.040
james murez: Helen go ahead, please.

1488
02:36:39.090 --> 02:36:45.360
Helen Fallon: I hope this will be a teaching lesson for all of her to learn how so that emotion properly when you're going to make real changes.

1489
02:36:45.660 --> 02:36:51.210
Helen Fallon: You need to redline out what you're taking out and put in what you're putting in there shouldn't be a.

1490
02:36:51.720 --> 02:36:56.220
Helen Fallon: exercise and having to look things up and piece it together and I don't.

1491
02:36:56.670 --> 02:37:02.880
Helen Fallon: Like Lisa I don't understand why you're taking out language about in person meetings makes no sense and, as you Jen yourself said.

1492
02:37:03.210 --> 02:37:15.450
Helen Fallon: In an email to me beyond where it broke, is an area, full of angry persons, it is not a safe place for people to be going, so why are you making that exclusively the only place to get the agenda.

1493
02:37:16.920 --> 02:37:19.950
Helen Fallon: it's it's just absolutely ridiculous.

1494
02:37:20.670 --> 02:37:24.060
james murez: Thank you, I think it misquoted mail so but we won't get into that now.

1495
02:37:26.820 --> 02:37:30.390
james murez: And holly you are our last speaker go ahead, please.

1496
02:37:34.470 --> 02:37:45.750
Holly Tilson: I just want to say you're required to have a minimum of one posting areas, it should be something that is available 24 seven.

1497
02:37:46.140 --> 02:38:03.780
Holly Tilson: We have Community improvement money you can spend your $200 and put up a Bulletin board with locking doors but put it in a place, like the library, or I don't know whatever people feel comfortable.

1498
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melissa diner: going to.

1499
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To view.

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Holly Tilson: The agendas, we post on from the Mar vista Community Council we post ours at the Mar vista park and it's behind plexiglass doors, but it goes up there it's available if anybody wants to go to the park to see it and it's more or less safe.

1501
02:38:29.880 --> 02:38:33.570
Holly Tilson: You have to put it someplace where people are comfortable going.

1502
02:38:35.430 --> 02:38:37.530
james murez: Thank you, thank you very much holly.

1503
02:38:39.870 --> 02:38:40.860
Ivan: Okay well what's.

1504
02:38:41.340 --> 02:38:42.840
Ivan: The point of information now.

1505
02:38:42.900 --> 02:38:43.980
james murez: yeah I haven't excuse me.

1506
02:38:44.010 --> 02:38:49.920
james murez: Okay, that closed public comment i'd like to let Ivan speak for a few moments go ahead.

1507
02:38:50.520 --> 02:38:52.440
Ivan: Okay, the current.

1508
02:38:53.850 --> 02:39:14.580
Ivan: posting requirements for the Venice neighborhood Council are beyond the beyond Baroque because it has to be somewhere, which has 24 seven access and where you can get to all of the pages so i'm putting it in a plexiglas case we sometimes have 15 page genders that's not going to work.

1509
02:39:16.200 --> 02:39:34.980
Ivan: We also have the library we're only required to have one space, according to the brown act, we have to ground works disappeared years ago oakwood disappeared, years ago, so that that's not even current people at bringing up old stuff from a decade ago.

1510
02:39:36.810 --> 02:39:37.200
Ivan: i'm done.

1511
02:39:37.800 --> 02:39:38.460
james murez: Thank you Ivan.

1512
02:39:40.110 --> 02:39:47.970
james murez: it's one of the reasons why we wanted to make these corrections, because it is Oliver let's i'm going to go ahead and share your screen now.

1513
02:39:50.370 --> 02:39:51.810
james murez: let's go back to.

1514
02:39:52.950 --> 02:39:53.730
james murez: The.

1515
02:39:55.740 --> 02:39:58.800
james murez: Most motion at hand that was first and second did.

1516
02:40:00.060 --> 02:40:06.810
james murez: But everybody knows what it is let's take some committee comments, I see a bunch of hands up.

1517
02:40:10.440 --> 02:40:12.660
james murez: let's go ahead allie you want to start.

1518
02:40:16.590 --> 02:40:17.970
james murez: Now you need to unmute yourself.

1519
02:40:20.100 --> 02:40:22.710
Alley Bean: You can let other people speak first off calculator.

1520
02:40:23.610 --> 02:40:24.450
Soledad Ursua: Can I go first.

1521
02:40:24.960 --> 02:40:26.610
james murez: Sure, solid as you guys.

1522
02:40:26.910 --> 02:40:29.280
Soledad Ursua: go first, because I was really confused by this at.

1523
02:40:29.280 --> 02:40:35.850
Soledad Ursua: First, but after seeing the corrections I understand it now, as someone who's I post all my stuff physically.

1524
02:40:36.570 --> 02:40:46.110
Soledad Ursua: For the Public Health and Safety Committee meeting so that's correct the library has been closed during coven so there's no way to access to go inside to post be on it to.

1525
02:40:46.470 --> 02:40:56.640
Soledad Ursua: You know I posted on the doors but that's not even really posting and remember beyond Baroque is right across the street, basically, and they have the push pin sign so that's where I would post.

1526
02:40:57.450 --> 02:41:02.970
Soledad Ursua: So I actually agree with all this and remember increasingly we're trying to social media these days.

1527
02:41:03.360 --> 02:41:13.440
Soledad Ursua: I think that you know, I think that some people are working with them instagram we have all kinds of Twitter, so I think I actually like this, because it is hard to kind of post everywhere.

1528
02:41:13.860 --> 02:41:23.010
Soledad Ursua: And you know beyond broke is open 24 hours, and I think, increasingly, we need to work on social media, maybe there's a way for you know, maybe it's optional where you know, we have the.

1529
02:41:23.460 --> 02:41:30.240
Soledad Ursua: The table at the farmers market maybe that's a place where people could talk about upcoming meetings, but I do like it has presented it makes sense.

1530
02:41:30.450 --> 02:41:34.230
james murez: Thank you i'm Andre is yours is an ex stand up.

1531
02:41:36.330 --> 02:41:36.840
Andrea Boccaletti: um.

1532
02:41:37.980 --> 02:41:38.760
Andrea Boccaletti: Well, so.

1533
02:41:40.080 --> 02:41:43.590
Andrea Boccaletti: Ah, the library is closed, is that what's happening right now.

1534
02:41:44.070 --> 02:41:48.630
james murez: The library is close yes physically closed, I was never a 24 seven location that's correct.

1535
02:41:49.230 --> 02:41:50.670
Ivan: Okay library use open.

1536
02:41:51.690 --> 02:41:55.200
Andrea Boccaletti: yeah I posted I posted my last meeting at the library and.

1537
02:41:56.130 --> 02:41:58.050
james murez: It has varying hours, then.

1538
02:41:58.230 --> 02:42:01.410
Ivan: Because it's not always around regular hours now.

1539
02:42:02.040 --> 02:42:02.580
james murez: And it's.

1540
02:42:03.060 --> 02:42:04.500
Ivan: A regular schedule.

1541
02:42:04.890 --> 02:42:06.330
james murez: i've been just a moment it's never.

1542
02:42:06.330 --> 02:42:09.990
james murez: been it's never been a 24 seven it's never been a.

1543
02:42:10.290 --> 02:42:16.740
james murez: Year right Michelle posting place it's always been behind the doors and when it was available, we would email.

1544
02:42:17.010 --> 02:42:30.900
james murez: The librarian our agenda, and she would do the posting for us, but it was never considered an official posting location, it was listed in our standing roles, but it was never considered an official posting location.

1545
02:42:31.200 --> 02:42:34.350
james murez: Because it's not available 24 seven right.

1546
02:42:34.920 --> 02:42:46.230
Andrea Boccaletti: kick and My other question or says um yeah I don't agree in removing the language at the in person meetings, because we are going to go back to in person meetings so let's just put.

1547
02:42:46.710 --> 02:42:54.450
Andrea Boccaletti: What we need to put now for the online meetings and when we go back to the in person meetings we leave that language there for that time.

1548
02:42:54.930 --> 02:43:01.980
james murez: So is that, as a substitute motion are you making an amendment, excuse me um but you making an amendment to the motion.

1549
02:43:02.220 --> 02:43:04.620
Andrea Boccaletti: Whether this is all being voted in the same motion right.

1550
02:43:04.920 --> 02:43:10.740
james murez: Well, no, you could at this point you're allowed to make an amendment to the motion to say leave the other section in.

1551
02:43:11.220 --> 02:43:22.740
james murez: And, and then we would stop the process of what we're doing now, and first take a vote on whether or not we want to leave the section that's there for physical meetings in.

1552
02:43:24.000 --> 02:43:25.860
james murez: Or we can just keep going the way we are and.

1553
02:43:27.090 --> 02:43:36.210
Andrea Boccaletti: go with it at a later time if it's all part of all of it then i'm just going to vote no but I mean it has so we want to have someone who wants to separate it let someone know separate see.

1554
02:43:37.050 --> 02:43:39.330
james murez: i'm not following okay see my go ahead, please.

1555
02:43:43.230 --> 02:43:44.130
james murez: you're muted Sema.

1556
02:43:52.650 --> 02:44:06.000
Sima Kostovetsky: Okay, thank you, I want to thank holly for her comments Thank you um I just want to point out once again that we are not having any kind of in person meetings or any kind of assembly.

1557
02:44:06.600 --> 02:44:21.090
Sima Kostovetsky: By mandated by done at least through December 31 so I to add to solids point we've always posted at two locations, the library as Jim said through email, sometimes we do do it in person.

1558
02:44:21.420 --> 02:44:25.800
Sima Kostovetsky: But he's right that's never been a 24 hour location so beyond broke has always been.

1559
02:44:26.790 --> 02:44:34.890
Sima Kostovetsky: A 20 hour or 24 hour location and I know there's been some issues with agendas being pulled down and and so forth, but i'm.

1560
02:44:35.550 --> 02:44:44.850
Sima Kostovetsky: I mean i'm not proposing an A you know another motion but i'm open to having a second location if that's what the Community wants.

1561
02:44:45.210 --> 02:44:52.710
Sima Kostovetsky: But I think, for the time being, especially while our meetings are all on zoom and we're not allowed like I can't even have a coffee with the COPs.

1562
02:44:53.070 --> 02:45:06.120
Sima Kostovetsky: And if you're posting at businesses, you have to get their permission so i'm really just kind of questioning why we're doing in person postings when will not having any kind of in person meetings.

1563
02:45:07.110 --> 02:45:09.780
james murez: Thanks yeah oh weeks go ahead, please.

1564
02:45:11.190 --> 02:45:17.520
Alix Gucovsky: Thank you, so I think this speaks to a lot of things and I listened to the transcript of the of the rules meeting.

1565
02:45:18.030 --> 02:45:27.000
Alix Gucovsky: And it begs the question is, why is this such a like time sensitive issue, I think we don't know if we're going to stay in virtual meetings hybrid meetings in person meetings.

1566
02:45:27.330 --> 02:45:38.490
Alix Gucovsky: Some combination of the two we've had a lot of feedback from the public, there was very little transparency and how this was being done, why this is being done Why was this the first thing that needed to be changed immediately.

1567
02:45:38.820 --> 02:45:46.530
Alix Gucovsky: Look i'm personally, not a fan of like additional paper going all over the place, but if the Community wants to see a physical posting somewhere.

1568
02:45:46.770 --> 02:45:55.410
Alix Gucovsky: Then we should think about that we should have it in proper conversation we should discuss it and assess the proper proper place to speak to the issue of the library.

1569
02:45:55.740 --> 02:46:04.170
Alix Gucovsky: gym you know this because I sent you a picture from there, yesterday I went during regular business hours to go and post my agenda.

1570
02:46:04.440 --> 02:46:21.060
Alix Gucovsky: And they were closed randomly for renovations or I don't know what and sometimes they're closed and sometimes they're open, so I would agree that that's an infeasible or not, not a practical location, but this should go back to committee, it should go back to committee with.

1571
02:46:22.170 --> 02:46:34.290
Alix Gucovsky: You know who put this through what the rationales what the pros and cons are so that we can have like an intelligent conversation about it, rather than just being pushed through with sort of little thought process.

1572
02:46:36.300 --> 02:46:37.320
james murez: Thank you devin bill.

1573
02:46:39.210 --> 02:46:44.700
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah so i'm on the rules and selections Committee, I was the one that asked that we do this if a leaks.

1574
02:46:45.150 --> 02:46:54.750
Daffodil Tyminski: And i'm actually shocked, how many public commenters were at the meeting, where I gave the explanation as to why we were doing this, so if you heard that meeting attended that meeting and watch that meeting.

1575
02:46:55.320 --> 02:47:00.060
Daffodil Tyminski: You would know the answer to that question, but, as you can see from our rules.

1576
02:47:00.720 --> 02:47:12.480
Daffodil Tyminski: We had locations listed that aren't even in business anymore right, so we had a discussion we went through what makes sense, what doesn't I think we beat in the library to death it's randomly not open people have.

1577
02:47:13.980 --> 02:47:20.910
Daffodil Tyminski: pointed out numerous problems trying to access the library, so the library didn't make sense, obviously abbott habit is not open.

1578
02:47:21.570 --> 02:47:28.830
Daffodil Tyminski: Ground works which is not really a location, I mean that has been gone for a really, really long time it just never got updated in the rules.

1579
02:47:29.460 --> 02:47:37.530
Daffodil Tyminski: Now, why is this urgent because many of the same people who gave public comment tonight to not pass this motion today saying it's not urgent.

1580
02:47:37.950 --> 02:47:42.960
Daffodil Tyminski: Or the very same people since day one that we got on the board have been complaining to the board about posting.

1581
02:47:43.770 --> 02:47:49.650
Daffodil Tyminski: And it was one of the first things we got and we get posting comments i'm going to say, at least once a week.

1582
02:47:50.220 --> 02:48:01.260
Daffodil Tyminski: And so, when the rules and selections Committee was formed on the committee, I said, you know what let's just try to clean up posting and make this simple beyond rope has been there for years it's worked for years.

1583
02:48:02.400 --> 02:48:12.750
Daffodil Tyminski: I have, this is the first i've heard that someone is fearful of going to be on broke it's right next to the firehouse there's ample public parking, it is a public place I go there not experienced any fear.

1584
02:48:13.650 --> 02:48:27.090
Daffodil Tyminski: So that is the rationale that that is how it happened, this is where the motion came from this is how the motion got to be this was all explained in the rules and selection committee meeting again, which many people here attended.

1585
02:48:28.110 --> 02:48:39.900
Daffodil Tyminski: So, if anyone has any questions i'm happy to answer them but there's not some crazy nefarious intent here to try to jam through a rule on posting I mean this is just we've gone beyond ludicrous and partisanship here.

1586
02:48:40.980 --> 02:48:44.250
Daffodil Tyminski: And in terms of the timing, you know we have a new chair.

1587
02:48:45.240 --> 02:48:50.010
Daffodil Tyminski: We don't know whether the agenda request didn't come through timely or it wasn't submitted timeline or whatever.

1588
02:48:50.370 --> 02:48:56.880
Daffodil Tyminski: But we're always gracious with people if a request doesn't come through this one didn't come through by like an hour to.

1589
02:48:57.510 --> 02:49:08.970
Daffodil Tyminski: And so we just decided to do it this way again just like we've done for other committees, much more experienced committee members committee chairs in the past, so if you'd like to take issue with that.

1590
02:49:10.110 --> 02:49:16.890
Daffodil Tyminski: Please do, but I really think I would at least respect your fellow committee members in your new chairs and give them a chance to kind of do this right.

1591
02:49:18.660 --> 02:49:20.670
james murez: Thank you NICO go ahead, please.

1592
02:49:23.940 --> 02:49:24.390
Nico Ruderman: sure.

1593
02:49:26.550 --> 02:49:31.650
Nico Ruderman: little bit off topic, but not really I like to say that.

1594
02:49:34.110 --> 02:49:42.810
Nico Ruderman: we're in the 21st century, and I strongly believe we should have a physical copy posted of our of our agenda somewhere that somebody can go and read.

1595
02:49:43.170 --> 02:49:49.980
Nico Ruderman: it's it's readily available anytime they want to read it, that being said, I feel like we should have something that is a living.

1596
02:49:50.790 --> 02:50:05.580
Nico Ruderman: thing that we can just put up across our Community, we could put a qr code and businesses across Venice that and that's really as outreach across the entire neighborhood the anytime anybody's interested they go scan a qr code in this business and.

1597
02:50:06.720 --> 02:50:10.620
Nico Ruderman: The agenda, whatever is the current agenda would pop up on their phone immediately.

1598
02:50:11.820 --> 02:50:20.370
Nico Ruderman: You know, it would be it'd be always available, and you know I mean going back to how I originally learned personally about the dnc.

1599
02:50:21.390 --> 02:50:29.820
Nico Ruderman: I was at the street festival and Abbot kinney and somebody handed me a flyer about the dnc and I started going to meetings, and I was I don't know 2011.

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02:50:30.930 --> 02:50:46.080
Nico Ruderman: I think that the more places we have an agenda posted the better, but it should be something succinct that that's that's not 15 pages and a location, it could be a page the qr code explanation of what the dnc is scan the code.

1601
02:50:48.360 --> 02:50:49.530
james murez: Thank you NICO that's a.

1602
02:50:50.460 --> 02:50:51.540
james murez: great idea.

1603
02:50:51.630 --> 02:50:57.150
james murez: i'm gonna i'm gonna talk to see my after this meeting about where and how we can get that.

1604
02:50:59.070 --> 02:51:00.090
melissa diner: comment on this.

1605
02:51:00.210 --> 02:51:08.190
james murez: But no hang on one second Melissa you didn't have your hand up so i'm gonna let it go and then you'll be the last speaker, and it will take about allie go ahead, please.

1606
02:51:08.520 --> 02:51:15.510
Alley Bean: Okay, I mean just having to listen every everyone, I mean daffodil I don't i'm certainly not trying to be partisan, I hope you know that.

1607
02:51:15.750 --> 02:51:22.560
Alley Bean: That was not my intention, I just saw something at the last minute was confusing to me that's why I suggested we see it later.

1608
02:51:23.310 --> 02:51:29.940
Alley Bean: I don't know i've always I guess it's because I live near the library, I live near beyond broke, too, but i've always gone to library.

1609
02:51:30.870 --> 02:51:43.920
Alley Bean: So I understand that people like to see physical things in the neighborhood I don't think it's a partisan thing at all, and so you know it's just I was confusing to me that this was at the last minute so I had to look up that stuff and I didn't know how.

1610
02:51:44.970 --> 02:51:47.850
Alley Bean: I don't think people are trying to be you know disagreeable.

1611
02:51:49.320 --> 02:51:50.850
james murez: Okay, thank you um.

1612
02:51:52.260 --> 02:51:53.310
melissa diner: Can I say something.

1613
02:51:53.400 --> 02:51:55.170
james murez: yeah you're the last figure go ahead.

1614
02:51:55.650 --> 02:52:09.870
melissa diner: I just want to say how amazing what NICO just said was like literally I I will like commit right now personally to post a qr code in all of the locations we're eliminating.

1615
02:52:10.110 --> 02:52:19.650
melissa diner: And we can update that qr code and it can be whatever is most pressing will work together with Sema or whatever to do that, but like that was just.

1616
02:52:20.280 --> 02:52:28.530
melissa diner: The most amazing thing we need more of that that's so exciting to me and why i'm so glad we just had a new election, so thank you.

1617
02:52:28.980 --> 02:52:39.360
melissa diner: And I hope you can just vote in past this to clean things up, but I know that we will do more things like that, because of what you just said and and.

1618
02:52:39.870 --> 02:52:46.440
melissa diner: You know, for the people that don't still feel that way it's like look like go Paul revere into the night like word of mouth is everything.

1619
02:52:46.680 --> 02:52:56.970
melissa diner: But like we're all volunteers to like go posted anywhere you want physically, you know, but I don't think that we need to continue continue doing things that aren't the best form of reaching the most people, thank you.

1620
02:52:57.390 --> 02:52:58.290
james murez: yeah okay.

1621
02:52:59.040 --> 02:53:02.040
Sima Kostovetsky: I need to say two things, because I was mentioned.

1622
02:53:02.070 --> 02:53:03.240
Sima Kostovetsky: Sorry just have to say to.

1623
02:53:05.040 --> 02:53:06.480
james murez: See mama Thank you Sema.

1624
02:53:06.900 --> 02:53:14.130
james murez: we've had that discussion already we're going to take a vote now, a leak, you can put your hand down Melissa take the boat place.

1625
02:53:14.670 --> 02:53:15.780
Alley Bean: But what are we voting on.

1626
02:53:16.470 --> 02:53:19.650
james murez: we're voting on whether to approve well why don't we.

1627
02:53:21.540 --> 02:53:23.880
james murez: Melissa you want to read snape the motion.

1628
02:53:24.240 --> 02:53:26.280
melissa diner: we're voting on number four a.

1629
02:53:26.640 --> 02:53:28.500
melissa diner: You have the agenda in front of you.

1630
02:53:28.710 --> 02:53:29.100
Alley Bean: Do you.

1631
02:53:29.190 --> 02:53:43.770
melissa diner: Know modifications included just the only thing i'll restate if you want to restate is that the locations being deleted are Venice library open REC Center avid habit and brown works on rose.

1632
02:53:43.860 --> 02:53:48.090
Alley Bean: So this is the only locations thing not about the big live virtual thing.

1633
02:53:48.600 --> 02:53:50.070
melissa diner: Item for a yeah.

1634
02:53:50.910 --> 02:53:52.980
james murez: Getting getting includes place.

1635
02:53:55.200 --> 02:54:02.880
melissa diner: I can quickly read it it's the Venice neighborhood Council recommends the week, the first two paragraphs of section six and replace them with the fine language media shall be conducted in.

1636
02:54:03.960 --> 02:54:15.240
melissa diner: The Los Angeles virtual governments to number two third and fourth line paragraph for delete the posting location and replace it with the on broke at 681 buys boulevard 9291.

1637
02:54:16.380 --> 02:54:18.480
james murez: So that's the motion take take the boat now.

1638
02:54:18.930 --> 02:54:20.490
james murez: Jim yes.

1639
02:54:20.910 --> 02:54:23.580
melissa diner: that's it Oh yes, I vote yes.

1640
02:54:27.210 --> 02:54:27.870
Alix Gucovsky: i'm staying.

1641
02:54:28.800 --> 02:54:30.480
vicki yes.

1642
02:54:36.300 --> 02:54:36.840
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

1643
02:54:37.320 --> 02:54:37.650
Alley Bean: Ali.

1644
02:54:38.130 --> 02:54:38.970
Was staying.

1645
02:54:41.220 --> 02:54:42.060
Alley Bean: Too confused.

1646
02:54:44.340 --> 02:54:44.730
melissa diner: Okay.

1647
02:54:45.120 --> 02:54:46.860
melissa diner: Yes, bravo.

1648
02:54:47.340 --> 02:54:47.820
No.

1649
02:54:59.940 --> 02:55:00.690
ElizabethClay: Yes.

1650
02:55:02.010 --> 02:55:03.810
melissa diner: Yes, all of her.

1651
02:55:04.260 --> 02:55:05.820
melissa diner: Yes, James.

1652
02:55:06.990 --> 02:55:07.260
jim robb: Oh.

1653
02:55:08.310 --> 02:55:08.790
melissa diner: NICO.

1654
02:55:09.990 --> 02:55:10.320
Nico Ruderman: No.

1655
02:55:21.540 --> 02:55:21.960
melissa diner: Clark.

1656
02:55:22.620 --> 02:55:23.100
Yes.

1657
02:55:27.270 --> 02:55:28.050
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: Yes.

1658
02:55:29.760 --> 02:55:30.060
Bruno Hernandez: Yes.

1659
02:55:30.870 --> 02:55:31.620
melissa diner: Show guys.

1660
02:55:32.070 --> 02:55:33.360
melissa diner: Yes, and.

1661
02:55:34.560 --> 02:55:34.950
Andrea Boccaletti: No.

1662
02:55:35.910 --> 02:55:36.360
DJ.

1663
02:55:37.380 --> 02:55:38.130
CJ Cole: Staying.

1664
02:55:49.980 --> 02:55:59.040
melissa diner: 34 three.

1665
02:56:02.850 --> 02:56:05.730
james murez: Okay, so motion carries Thank you.

1666
02:56:06.780 --> 02:56:09.720
james murez: Moving right along let's look at the next one.

1667
02:56:11.850 --> 02:56:15.270
james murez: For be Oliver you want to go ahead and read that place.

1668
02:56:16.080 --> 02:56:16.500
you're.

1669
02:56:18.840 --> 02:56:21.750
Oliver Fries: Making the motion as follows.

1670
02:56:23.790 --> 02:56:31.980
Oliver Fries: The Venice neighborhood Council recommends the following additional to addition to the standard rules President is an ex officio member of every committee.

1671
02:56:34.140 --> 02:56:35.190
james murez: And do we hear a second.

1672
02:56:38.400 --> 02:56:39.420
melissa diner: I can at masa.

1673
02:56:41.130 --> 02:56:41.700
james murez: Thank you.

1674
02:56:43.440 --> 02:56:47.220
james murez: Clark, I saw you but you were a little late on the on the draw their next time.

1675
02:56:49.710 --> 02:56:56.760
james murez: Okay, any questions about clarity of what the motion says that's all we're talking about I see three hands up.

1676
02:56:57.810 --> 02:56:59.970
james murez: Actually, one of them's Freddie Freddie, what do you want to say.

1677
02:57:01.680 --> 02:57:07.950
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Okay, so the first question is i'm guessing this is going to be rule number 30 understanding roles.

1678
02:57:08.190 --> 02:57:11.580
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Okay, and then the second part is.

1679
02:57:12.720 --> 02:57:19.050
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): The Board can move on with direct recommendation of three possible options at this board can go towards with this item.

1680
02:57:19.620 --> 02:57:30.420
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Either move forward and vote for that that sentence to be added as rule number 30 either table it for further discussion or the third option is to amend.

1681
02:57:30.870 --> 02:57:52.050
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): To exclude Luke peck since Article seven, Section one subsection F of the second paragraph states that no board officer may serve as a loop peck Member, with the exception of the land use and planning committee chair and if the X official is the President that is a board member.

1682
02:57:53.430 --> 02:57:57.870
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): So those are the possible three options that could be taken as a recommendation.

1683
02:57:59.100 --> 02:58:02.550
james murez: Saying you're ready we I thought I heard you say earlier, just to be.

1684
02:58:02.610 --> 02:58:09.750
james murez: be perfectly clear, the bylaws come first, the standing rules come second and robert's rules come third Is that correct.

1685
02:58:10.290 --> 02:58:11.040
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): That is correct.

1686
02:58:11.190 --> 02:58:21.300
james murez: Okay, so that would mean that we don't really necessarily have to modify the wording, because the bylaws already supersede what the standing rules would say.

1687
02:58:22.410 --> 02:58:23.520
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Yes, it, meaning that.

1688
02:58:23.670 --> 02:58:27.030
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): That would be excellent official for all committees, except for that one.

1689
02:58:27.180 --> 02:58:41.850
james murez: effort the except for the ones that were called out in the bylaws so that happens automatically we don't have to change the way that the motion is written written today because the bylaws already supersede the way that this is written and it wouldn't necessarily be an issue.

1690
02:58:43.020 --> 02:58:43.440
james murez: Thank you.

1691
02:58:44.040 --> 02:58:46.980
CJ Cole: Where where does one do an amendment.

1692
02:58:47.070 --> 02:58:50.640
james murez: hold on one second cj we're just talking about.

1693
02:58:51.750 --> 02:59:01.770
james murez: Whether or not there's something about this, that is not the motion that's been read that if you have a question about emotion that is on the floor at this point.

1694
02:59:01.950 --> 02:59:04.320
CJ Cole: Well, what did you make an amendment later.

1695
02:59:05.010 --> 02:59:06.090
james murez: Yes, yes.

1696
02:59:06.240 --> 02:59:06.690
Okay.

1697
02:59:08.640 --> 02:59:15.660
james murez: Okay anybody else so let's see my did you have something about the way that this was written that you want a question about the right now.

1698
02:59:17.130 --> 02:59:18.930
james murez: something you didn't understand about what was written.

1699
02:59:19.860 --> 02:59:27.300
Sima Kostovetsky: I just I was just wondering what the changes because you've always been ex officio.

1700
02:59:27.330 --> 02:59:28.230
james murez: yeah and.

1701
02:59:28.560 --> 02:59:29.700
james murez: we'll get into that later.

1702
02:59:30.390 --> 02:59:31.230
Sima Kostovetsky: Thank you okay.

1703
02:59:31.830 --> 02:59:32.790
james murez: So down.

1704
02:59:33.330 --> 02:59:35.940
Soledad Ursua: I have the same question just um I had always use.

1705
02:59:37.050 --> 02:59:39.480
james murez: what's let's get into that later Andreas.

1706
02:59:41.820 --> 02:59:42.930
Andrea Boccaletti: I had the same question.

1707
02:59:43.020 --> 02:59:47.460
james murez: Okay, thank you um okay let's take public comment now.

1708
02:59:51.210 --> 02:59:57.120
melissa diner: Okay, so you don't I just want to point of information you don't clarify their questions before public comment.

1709
02:59:59.910 --> 03:00:14.850
james murez: I don't know I assume that we can Okay, so what we're doing is where I can clarify your question all three of you have the same question why are we doing this now and it hadn't ever been done before, so let me see if I can explain.

1710
03:00:15.390 --> 03:00:24.480
james murez: Our parliamentarian who's been our parliamentarian for the better part of 20 years since the neighborhood Council was created said this used to always be in the bylaws at some point in time.

1711
03:00:24.690 --> 03:00:34.770
james murez: Somebody took it out of the bylaws it was supposed to them, end up falling back into the standing rules that didn't fall back into the standing rules and it recently became an issue.

1712
03:00:35.730 --> 03:00:46.830
james murez: that needed to be resolved, this was a seemed as though it was a simple no brainer kind of a thing for new committee Member to be able to create.

1713
03:00:47.820 --> 03:00:59.040
james murez: An agenda item go through the process put on the boards agenda and understand, we have a new rules and selections committee and a new chair there this seemed like a fairly simple thing to get done.

1714
03:00:59.580 --> 03:01:09.570
james murez: And it was just a question of clarifying what everybody's always believed we've had we know that the last all the way back to video debt, which was.

1715
03:01:10.200 --> 03:01:26.040
james murez: Four or five Presidents ago all had this as part of their procedure and it only became an issue recently when we found out that it, it was no longer in the rules so we're adding it back in.

1716
03:01:26.910 --> 03:01:40.530
james murez: And, and it was just a point of clarification and it's not changing anything about the way we do business so having said that, I think I answered all of your questions and now let's go to public comment puppet go ahead, please.

1717
03:01:43.890 --> 03:01:44.910
james murez: puppet you're unmuted.

1718
03:01:47.220 --> 03:02:00.930
- Puppet: Yes, but we were at the meeting and didn't the guy with the big beard he said you're under Amendment bylaws that you couldn't just do it on the standing rule and puppet believed, you know you're.

1719
03:02:01.980 --> 03:02:09.060
- Puppet: you're just trying to do this as a lie, so the board, the Chair should not be ex officio of anything.

1720
03:02:09.510 --> 03:02:27.180
- Puppet: They do this at other places studio city yesterday, a city and see no it doesn't and the Chair all the time, the President sticks his nose into every committee and takes away its independence that's why it's no good, no, no, or change the.

1721
03:02:28.230 --> 03:02:28.440
Soledad Ursua: way.

1722
03:02:29.850 --> 03:02:32.940
- Puppet: You promise you're breaking my heart.

1723
03:02:36.750 --> 03:02:37.350
james murez: Thank you.

1724
03:02:38.910 --> 03:02:40.530
james murez: Elizabeth right go ahead place.

1725
03:02:41.910 --> 03:02:43.620
james murez: Erica more by the way, is the last speaker.

1726
03:02:46.890 --> 03:02:50.280
Elizabeth Wright: I think it would be far better to exclude a PC.

1727
03:02:51.690 --> 03:03:06.990
Elizabeth Wright: It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense can't pass something that says every except and it's up to you to listen to the reader to understand that the bylaws trump they standing rules can just doesn't make sense when it's easy to fix.

1728
03:03:07.500 --> 03:03:08.340
james murez: Okay, thank you.

1729
03:03:10.170 --> 03:03:13.560
james murez: i'm Margaret malloy go ahead, please.

1730
03:03:17.430 --> 03:03:19.200
Margaret Molloy: So it's interesting that you had to.

1731
03:03:19.200 --> 03:03:36.240
Margaret Molloy: Explain to three of your board members what it even emotionally even means and that Freddie had to explain to all of you the order of influence of these different laws, so I think that shows you how rubbish, this is, and you know, Jim you're bit of a.

1732
03:03:38.280 --> 03:03:48.570
Margaret Molloy: you're a bit of an imposing or your bit of a bully type personality so personally putting this on the books, right now, as a rushed event is really a you know, a verse of to me.

1733
03:03:49.020 --> 03:03:55.980
Margaret Molloy: And you're saying four or five Presidents ago this was standard fare that's 10 years ago so you're saying this doesn't this doesn't.

1734
03:03:56.820 --> 03:04:11.430
Margaret Molloy: require any kind of discussion, no, no committee discussion that you're just putting something back that was has been gone for 10 years I think you're just playing God I don't like this at all, I hope you don't believe this.

1735
03:04:13.440 --> 03:04:14.700
- Puppet: World said well said.

1736
03:04:15.000 --> 03:04:20.520
james murez: Thank you okay i'm going to remove your permission to talk Thank you i'm.

1737
03:04:21.810 --> 03:04:23.130
james murez: Robin router so go ahead, please.

1738
03:04:24.720 --> 03:04:36.750
RobinRudisill: As Robin Why would you write emotion that you know conflicts with a with a bylaw Liz right said it just right and Freddie is absolutely right amended to exclude lubick.

1739
03:04:37.290 --> 03:04:50.790
RobinRudisill: gym we fight it do it right, make it clear, amend the motion and get on with the evening, and this is the kind of thing that makes your meetings stretch out late into the evening so delicious be on the up and up and make it clear thanks.

1740
03:04:53.190 --> 03:04:54.090
james murez: Thank you.

1741
03:04:55.440 --> 03:04:56.400
james murez: Oh, and felon.

1742
03:04:58.230 --> 03:05:04.620
Helen Fallon: I agree with robbins calm and I also think this needs to be amended to make it very clear that this is not a voting position.

1743
03:05:05.760 --> 03:05:14.160
Helen Fallon: Because it could be interpreted that way, and it is not appropriate to have the President, be voting on committees when he's going to be voting again.

1744
03:05:14.550 --> 03:05:21.510
Helen Fallon: At the board meeting it's kind of like double dipping here and definitely you've got to clarify it about Luke Pack.

1745
03:05:21.870 --> 03:05:31.590
Helen Fallon: I mean, why would you write a standing rule that's confusing so you're just going to waste time arguing about with people about well, it says this excludes that or we don't remember what it excludes.

1746
03:05:31.980 --> 03:05:36.810
Helen Fallon: I mean, this is why you're arguing about the consent calendar, because you have these poorly written standing rules.

1747
03:05:37.110 --> 03:05:46.800
Helen Fallon: And you're trying to fix them piecemeal instead of sitting down and doing it in a systematic way and figuring out clear, concise language that everyone can understand.

1748
03:05:47.280 --> 03:05:54.720
Helen Fallon: I just don't understand why this is so important to do tonight and, by the way, your meeting supposed to be over, so you don't even have time to go.

1749
03:05:56.460 --> 03:05:57.090
james murez: Thank you.

1750
03:05:58.710 --> 03:05:59.610
james murez: i'm.

1751
03:06:01.380 --> 03:06:02.700
james murez: Calling go ahead, please.

1752
03:06:05.760 --> 03:06:19.980
Holly Tilson: I just want to say this motion should be amended to exclude Lou pack as your bylaws say and to change the ex officio to none voting.

1753
03:06:20.310 --> 03:06:33.270
Holly Tilson: The President of the mcs is supposed to be the neutral guiding star of the nc not influencing votes in a committee.

1754
03:06:34.350 --> 03:06:53.790
Holly Tilson: or on the board you're there to be a tiebreaker so your position is neutral non voting, you can oversee all these committees, but you shouldn't be interjecting opinion just clarifying facts, thank you.

1755
03:06:55.680 --> 03:06:56.940
james murez: Thank you i'm.

1756
03:06:59.820 --> 03:07:04.110
james murez: Now, getting confused to Lisa redmond already know what's the server admins Colonel.

1757
03:07:07.140 --> 03:07:07.860
james murez: Think so go ahead.

1758
03:07:08.460 --> 03:07:13.890
Lisa Redmond: Thank you um I really agree with so many of the previous commenters.

1759
03:07:15.390 --> 03:07:25.110
Lisa Redmond: they've been so articulate and stating it right, but what I mostly find interesting tonight is how often the argument has come up that said we're not doing anything nefarious here.

1760
03:07:26.160 --> 03:07:36.840
Lisa Redmond: when most people were just saying we're abusing the special meeting rules, but the more and more it's explained it really does seem like there is a rush, and it is nefarious.

1761
03:07:37.230 --> 03:07:45.120
Lisa Redmond: And, especially because things are not really clearly laid out in the motions in the paper So how are we, as the public.

1762
03:07:45.630 --> 03:07:58.800
Lisa Redmond: To really understand these motions are even if your board members don't completely understand it guys got to get better at this and writing agendas and make it clear for everyone to understand, thank you, thank you.

1763
03:08:00.780 --> 03:08:05.010
james murez: Okay, I think, oh here, Nick Nick still wanted to spot in the nose.

1764
03:08:06.360 --> 03:08:09.720
james murez: Eric come with that's right Eric was last one go ahead, Nick.

1765
03:08:10.290 --> 03:08:20.820
Nick Antonicello: yeah if you've got your Latin ex officio is by virtue of office, an ex officio Member only abstain, they do not vote.

1766
03:08:21.270 --> 03:08:31.770
Nick Antonicello: that's traditional robert's rules of order this nonsense robert's rules doesn't supersede standing rules and bibles is ridiculous robert's rules.

1767
03:08:32.130 --> 03:08:38.760
Nick Antonicello: Is the guiding light unless, specifically in the language of the Standing world and the Bible.

1768
03:08:39.720 --> 03:08:48.600
Nick Antonicello: Now I don't know how he can have a parliamentarian he tells you that was taken out mysteriously he doesn't know and when it was taken, we don't know.

1769
03:08:49.050 --> 03:09:05.190
Nick Antonicello: His records of all of any of any bylaws revisions and amendments he should have been the parliamentarian for 20 years I mean it's just kind of ridiculous and this whole thing needs to be reworked if you want it to work in the correct fashion.

1770
03:09:07.560 --> 03:09:08.400
james murez: Thank you, Nick.

1771
03:09:11.640 --> 03:09:12.240
james murez: i'm.

1772
03:09:14.220 --> 03:09:15.900
james murez: Erica your last speaker go ahead.

1773
03:09:17.970 --> 03:09:34.590
Erica Moore: hi I just want to echo what my fellow stakeholders have all said clearly, you have to listen to reason and it is reasonable to not you can't just take these actions you want to take, and I just want to say that.

1774
03:09:36.030 --> 03:09:42.180
Erica Moore: I just think there's so many great people that chime in chimed in here and they said it so perfectly I have nothing else to add.

1775
03:09:43.320 --> 03:09:43.860
james murez: Thank you.

1776
03:09:45.120 --> 03:09:46.980
james murez: Okay, so we're closing public comment.

1777
03:09:48.870 --> 03:09:53.970
james murez: um we now have 123456 hands up.

1778
03:09:55.380 --> 03:09:56.250
james murez: Andre is going go ahead.

1779
03:09:58.110 --> 03:10:04.860
Andrea Boccaletti: um yeah I heard many great comments and i'd like to make a motion that we table this until it's better written.

1780
03:10:07.680 --> 03:10:08.580
Andrea Boccaletti: And just the.

1781
03:10:11.970 --> 03:10:15.870
james murez: teacher, I Ivan what happens when somebody asked to table it.

1782
03:10:18.300 --> 03:10:19.200
james murez: I haven't are you there.

1783
03:10:21.360 --> 03:10:23.340
Ivan: hang on I have done report itself um.

1784
03:10:24.780 --> 03:10:27.540
Ivan: I think the proper motion here would be to postpone it.

1785
03:10:29.490 --> 03:10:31.890
james murez: And what's the difference between postponing and tabling.

1786
03:10:32.010 --> 03:10:36.630
Ivan: Well tabling is something you're gonna bring back at the end of the you know later in the meeting.

1787
03:10:38.340 --> 03:10:38.670
Ivan: But I.

1788
03:10:39.060 --> 03:10:39.870
Ivan: mean yeah.

1789
03:10:41.100 --> 03:10:41.730
james murez: So.

1790
03:10:43.080 --> 03:10:45.840
Ivan: Like I got hooked on it for 30 days 60 days.

1791
03:10:46.260 --> 03:10:50.430
james murez: Whatever okay so Andrea do you want to change your motion.

1792
03:10:51.570 --> 03:10:52.800
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, change on emotions.

1793
03:10:53.190 --> 03:10:55.230
james murez: And then i've been doing it a second on that.

1794
03:10:55.620 --> 03:10:57.360
Ivan: Second yeah sure.

1795
03:10:59.190 --> 03:11:00.690
Ivan: yeah in your second.

1796
03:11:00.840 --> 03:11:01.920
james murez: So we need a second that we take.

1797
03:11:03.090 --> 03:11:03.480
Ivan: pudding.

1798
03:11:03.750 --> 03:11:04.350
james murez: Excuse me.

1799
03:11:07.530 --> 03:11:10.590
james murez: Can I have quiet please for one minute, I want to ask a question.

1800
03:11:11.100 --> 03:11:17.610
james murez: I am a second do we then take a normal vote and make public comment.

1801
03:11:19.320 --> 03:11:23.940
Ivan: Well it's procedural it's up to you with the care of what you want to do here.

1802
03:11:24.180 --> 03:11:26.730
james murez: So we don't take public comment, we could just.

1803
03:11:27.210 --> 03:11:29.580
Ivan: Know it's a procedural.

1804
03:11:30.330 --> 03:11:30.690
Ivan: You know.

1805
03:11:31.140 --> 03:11:32.430
Daffodil Tyminski: Public comment on this gym.

1806
03:11:32.670 --> 03:11:33.870
Ivan: Okay, I don't think so.

1807
03:11:35.460 --> 03:11:36.120
melissa diner: yeah I.

1808
03:11:37.200 --> 03:11:37.950
CJ Cole: Second.

1809
03:11:38.100 --> 03:11:38.310
That.

1810
03:11:39.660 --> 03:11:41.220
james murez: cj wants to second it.

1811
03:11:41.370 --> 03:11:41.670
Okay.

1812
03:11:43.980 --> 03:11:45.630
james murez: motion to postpone.

1813
03:11:46.710 --> 03:11:48.510
Ivan: and for how long.

1814
03:11:48.960 --> 03:11:52.440
Ivan: Have you want to refer back to committee, what you want to do with it.

1815
03:11:53.070 --> 03:11:54.960
james murez: So on day if you want to.

1816
03:11:56.550 --> 03:12:00.300
james murez: restate it because we need those pieces of information, he says.

1817
03:12:02.280 --> 03:12:05.370
Andrea Boccaletti: Well i'd like to make a motion to postpone this.

1818
03:12:06.840 --> 03:12:09.180
Andrea Boccaletti: Item until it is better written.

1819
03:12:09.660 --> 03:12:10.650
james murez: send it back.

1820
03:12:11.670 --> 03:12:14.130
Andrea Boccaletti: So it says that it excludes black.

1821
03:12:17.280 --> 03:12:20.250
Andrea Boccaletti: Non voting Member on these committees let's make it.

1822
03:12:21.000 --> 03:12:21.300
let's.

1823
03:12:24.060 --> 03:12:24.420
melissa diner: say.

1824
03:12:24.480 --> 03:12:25.380
melissa diner: anything about.

1825
03:12:26.010 --> 03:12:26.400
melissa diner: I don't know.

1826
03:12:27.570 --> 03:12:28.620
james murez: Melissa hold on hold.

1827
03:12:28.620 --> 03:12:28.770
On.

1828
03:12:29.910 --> 03:12:41.610
james murez: You just want the motion that you need to make if you want to make the motion to postpone it and send it back to committee and then state at time you wanted to come back to the board like and.

1829
03:12:44.490 --> 03:12:47.400
Andrea Boccaletti: I don't know what mom yes okay next board meeting in 30 days.

1830
03:12:47.460 --> 03:12:50.610
james murez: OK, so now state your motions that everybody can hear it so it's.

1831
03:12:51.240 --> 03:12:54.750
Andrea Boccaletti: A motion to postpone this was it.

1832
03:12:55.890 --> 03:12:56.850
Andrea Boccaletti: For be.

1833
03:12:58.950 --> 03:13:02.550
Andrea Boccaletti: Until it is better written and i'd like to postpone it to the next board meeting.

1834
03:13:02.790 --> 03:13:04.530
james murez: But it has to go back to committee.

1835
03:13:05.850 --> 03:13:10.770
james murez: we're not postponing it to come back to the board for postponing it and sending it back to it.

1836
03:13:11.370 --> 03:13:12.900
Andrea Boccaletti: and send it back to the meeting.

1837
03:13:13.080 --> 03:13:13.710
Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you.

1838
03:13:14.760 --> 03:13:21.570
james murez: Thank you Okay, so now we have a motion and cj you still want a second that yeah Okay, thank you.

1839
03:13:21.990 --> 03:13:22.560
james murez: Melissa.

1840
03:13:22.650 --> 03:13:23.730
Jason Sugars: Take a vote place.

1841
03:13:23.790 --> 03:13:25.470
Alley Bean: And we can ask questions about that.

1842
03:13:26.070 --> 03:13:31.410
Alley Bean: No, because i'm still confused, is it taking loop check out or not.

1843
03:13:31.530 --> 03:13:35.430
james murez: you're you're going to ask your questions when it gets back to the committee okay.

1844
03:13:36.240 --> 03:13:38.760
james murez: You can participate in the discussion that'd be great.

1845
03:13:39.000 --> 03:13:39.660
Alley Bean: Okay, great.

1846
03:13:39.720 --> 03:13:43.590
james murez: Then you'll be able to ask all the questions it doesn't need to happen at this meeting right now.

1847
03:13:43.770 --> 03:13:45.240
james murez: gotcha thanks, thank you.

1848
03:13:48.120 --> 03:13:49.230
james murez: Melissa whenever you're ready.

1849
03:13:51.390 --> 03:13:53.670
melissa diner: um can I point of information.

1850
03:13:53.940 --> 03:14:03.990
melissa diner: Yes, before he called this motion I didn't even get to make a public comment or a board common on their original motion So what do we do in that scenario.

1851
03:14:05.400 --> 03:14:09.060
james murez: He his postponement trump's the rest of the speakers.

1852
03:14:10.620 --> 03:14:15.780
james murez: And it's all all the rest of the speaking is cut off at the point that somebody asked to postpone it when it's seconded.

1853
03:14:17.010 --> 03:14:23.790
melissa diner: And you're now trumping anyone public and board from being able to comment on the postponement motion.

1854
03:14:24.030 --> 03:14:24.810
james murez: that's correct.

1855
03:14:28.530 --> 03:14:30.780
james murez: This is on the floor, we have a motion on the Florida.

1856
03:14:30.780 --> 03:14:32.340
james murez: Post, you know now we're voting right.

1857
03:14:32.430 --> 03:14:35.370
melissa diner: Because you just corrected everything so we're taking to the vote.

1858
03:14:35.670 --> 03:14:36.420
james murez: that's correct.

1859
03:14:36.600 --> 03:14:37.260
melissa diner: Great Jim.

1860
03:14:37.740 --> 03:14:38.220
Yes.

1861
03:14:40.560 --> 03:14:43.530
melissa diner: you're voting to postpone to send back to committee.

1862
03:14:43.650 --> 03:14:45.030
james murez: Yes, I think, yes.

1863
03:14:47.580 --> 03:14:47.970
Daffodil Tyminski: No.

1864
03:14:48.930 --> 03:14:50.370
melissa diner: I vote no.

1865
03:14:54.600 --> 03:14:55.170
melissa diner: leaks.

1866
03:14:56.040 --> 03:14:57.540
Alix Gucovsky: Yes, vicki.

1867
03:15:01.080 --> 03:15:01.470
melissa diner: vicki.

1868
03:15:03.510 --> 03:15:04.110
vicki halliday: No.

1869
03:15:15.390 --> 03:15:16.320
Sima Kostovetsky: i'm abstaining.

1870
03:15:20.250 --> 03:15:20.670
melissa diner: Ali.

1871
03:15:21.150 --> 03:15:21.810
Yes.

1872
03:15:22.950 --> 03:15:23.400
melissa diner: Okay.

1873
03:15:24.150 --> 03:15:24.780
Seen.

1874
03:15:30.750 --> 03:15:31.470
melissa diner: Mike bravo.

1875
03:15:32.160 --> 03:15:32.670
Yes.

1876
03:15:36.000 --> 03:15:36.660
ElizabethClay: No.

1877
03:15:45.810 --> 03:15:46.680
melissa diner: i'm sorry i'm saying.

1878
03:15:49.140 --> 03:15:49.920
melissa diner: Can you repeat it.

1879
03:15:50.190 --> 03:15:51.840
melissa diner: i'm sorry I couldn't hear Thank you.

1880
03:15:54.150 --> 03:15:54.570
melissa diner: Oliver.

1881
03:15:55.050 --> 03:15:56.610
melissa diner: yeah James.

1882
03:15:57.600 --> 03:15:58.080
Yes.

1883
03:16:00.900 --> 03:16:01.320
melissa diner: NICO.

1884
03:16:03.990 --> 03:16:04.440
melissa diner: NICO.

1885
03:16:09.450 --> 03:16:09.960
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

1886
03:16:11.580 --> 03:16:12.840
melissa diner: Clark whoa.

1887
03:16:14.340 --> 03:16:15.450
melissa diner: Sorry, could you say it again.

1888
03:16:15.960 --> 03:16:17.400
melissa diner: No, thank you.

1889
03:16:20.190 --> 03:16:20.970
melissa diner: Robert to Buddha.

1890
03:16:22.710 --> 03:16:23.130
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: No.

1891
03:16:29.280 --> 03:16:29.700
melissa diner: Bruno.

1892
03:16:30.450 --> 03:16:30.930
Yes.

1893
03:16:33.570 --> 03:16:34.260
melissa diner: Jason.

1894
03:16:34.650 --> 03:16:35.220
Yes.

1895
03:16:37.590 --> 03:16:40.470
melissa diner: Yes, DJ yes.

1896
03:17:02.490 --> 03:17:06.570
melissa diner: 10 seven three the emotion case.

1897
03:17:08.190 --> 03:17:12.510
james murez: Thank you so it's going back to committee it'll be back on let's.

1898
03:17:14.940 --> 03:17:17.670
james murez: let's go back to our regularly.

1899
03:17:18.840 --> 03:17:20.430
Ivan: adjourn adjourn the meeting.

1900
03:17:20.460 --> 03:17:20.910
james murez: Oh that's.

1901
03:17:21.570 --> 03:17:23.130
james murez: Why i'm going to let me go back to the.

1902
03:17:23.130 --> 03:17:25.080
james murez: Agenda was just gonna go back and look at it real quick.

1903
03:17:28.740 --> 03:17:29.430
james murez: Okay, so there's.

1904
03:17:29.760 --> 03:17:31.080
Sima Kostovetsky: I don't understand like.

1905
03:17:31.800 --> 03:17:33.390
james murez: And now we're a journey journey.

1906
03:17:34.320 --> 03:17:34.950
Sima Kostovetsky: You know.

1907
03:17:35.070 --> 03:17:36.690
james murez: This this means.

1908
03:17:37.800 --> 03:17:38.340
Sima Kostovetsky: pretty much.

1909
03:17:39.450 --> 03:17:40.050
james murez: 24 hours.

1910
03:17:40.890 --> 03:17:41.220
Sima Kostovetsky: This is.

1911
03:17:41.640 --> 03:17:42.390
Sima Kostovetsky: frustrating.

1912
03:17:42.690 --> 03:17:43.410
Sima Kostovetsky: I just need to do.

1913
03:17:43.980 --> 03:17:44.610
melissa diner: My mute mute.

1914
03:17:44.670 --> 03:17:45.090
Sorry.

1915
03:17:48.420 --> 03:17:48.870
james murez: Okay.

1916
03:17:50.310 --> 03:17:53.370
james murez: Now we're going back to our original agenda.

1917
03:17:55.350 --> 03:17:57.180
Ivan: cool call the meeting back to order.

1918
03:17:57.390 --> 03:17:59.940
james murez: hold on I haven't gotten there yet i'm trying to get back to where we are.

1919
03:17:59.970 --> 03:18:02.520
james murez: Okay, where we left off all right.

1920
03:18:08.040 --> 03:18:09.630
melissa diner: yeah i'm just getting there.

1921
03:18:13.200 --> 03:18:23.400
james murez: Okay, so now i'd like to go back to where we originally were i'm going to call the the original meeting the seven o'clock meeting with general meeting.

1922
03:18:25.110 --> 03:18:29.550
james murez: session, and we are on number 10 which was.

1923
03:18:31.320 --> 03:18:32.370
james murez: Venice boulevard.

1924
03:18:33.150 --> 03:18:42.270
CJ Cole: And I am keeping myself and leaving so when somebody please text me or whatever, when this is over.

1925
03:18:42.570 --> 03:18:54.360
james murez: Okay anybody else said said they needed to recuse themselves from this, this is the project over at Venice boulevard and ocean avenue appear within 500 feet of it, you need to recuse yourself.

1926
03:18:55.050 --> 03:18:58.110
Alley Bean: Brian you said i'm not right it's alley.

1927
03:18:59.340 --> 03:19:01.290
Alley Bean: You said on the map i'm not 500 feet.

1928
03:19:01.800 --> 03:19:04.770
james murez: um Brian is currently muted.

1929
03:19:04.890 --> 03:19:05.430
Alley Bean: Oh sorry.

1930
03:19:06.570 --> 03:19:09.450
james murez: I can mute him at this point and.

1931
03:19:09.840 --> 03:19:13.440
melissa diner: that's also not really for him to say like we need to know and.

1932
03:19:14.400 --> 03:19:17.820
Alley Bean: He had the map and he that's What I want, I just wanted to double check.

1933
03:19:18.030 --> 03:19:19.590
james murez: yeah we'll we'll.

1934
03:19:20.010 --> 03:19:21.120
Alley Bean: Applicant had the map.

1935
03:19:21.300 --> 03:19:30.420
james murez: that's actually something that I think we want to have a week do in the future to help to help board members with that because she would be considered more important than the developer.

1936
03:19:31.230 --> 03:19:33.300
james murez: Let me find Brian and we'll bring him in and.

1937
03:19:36.180 --> 03:19:42.450
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): So Sorry, I want to clarify was nine Item number nine voter on already the consent calendar.

1938
03:19:44.910 --> 03:19:45.930
melissa diner: Correct ready.

1939
03:19:47.100 --> 03:19:47.430
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Okay.

1940
03:19:53.790 --> 03:20:01.590
james murez: So, Brian I just promoted you to a panelists so you'll be able to share screens and do stuff later, but could you Brian are you on.

1941
03:20:02.610 --> 03:20:03.570
Brian Silveira: i'm on hi there.

1942
03:20:03.960 --> 03:20:07.710
james murez: Can you just clarify for allie issue within 500 feet.

1943
03:20:08.340 --> 03:20:11.550
Brian Silveira: When I mapped it, she was not within 500 feet.

1944
03:20:11.910 --> 03:20:14.370
james murez: Was there, he was even close.

1945
03:20:15.090 --> 03:20:24.690
Brian Silveira: um I don't recall I just recall, she was not within 500 feet and that's measured from the nearest portion of her property to the nearest portion of ours.

1946
03:20:24.810 --> 03:20:26.100
james murez: Did you ask me miss.

1947
03:20:26.460 --> 03:20:27.300
Brian Silveira: I use the miss.

1948
03:20:28.020 --> 03:20:33.930
james murez: USA will assume that that's correct and you, and now you don't have any other properties within that region right.

1949
03:20:34.710 --> 03:20:35.820
Alley Bean: Now my son does.

1950
03:20:36.510 --> 03:20:38.070
james murez: Okay, but you're not part of it.

1951
03:20:38.460 --> 03:20:42.990
james murez: Now okay it's not because you can't have a financial interest in anything within 500 feet.

1952
03:20:44.220 --> 03:20:47.250
james murez: Okay you're good to stay then anybody else.

1953
03:20:49.860 --> 03:20:53.850
james murez: Okay i'm seeing none le do you want to go ahead and read.

1954
03:20:55.380 --> 03:20:56.670
james murez: i'm sorry over to this way.

1955
03:20:59.370 --> 03:21:01.140
Alix Gucovsky: And then procedurally well.

1956
03:21:01.200 --> 03:21:03.210
james murez: i'll read oh hold on.

1957
03:21:03.540 --> 03:21:04.350
james murez: Just a second.

1958
03:21:05.550 --> 03:21:09.630
james murez: We have hands up about is this about her reading the motion.

1959
03:21:10.860 --> 03:21:11.340
ElizabethClay: No.

1960
03:21:11.550 --> 03:21:14.490
james murez: Oh go ahead What was it did you need to recuse yourself.

1961
03:21:14.790 --> 03:21:22.920
james murez: Yes, Okay, Melissa Elizabeth is also recusing herself Andreas you have your hand up.

1962
03:21:28.890 --> 03:21:30.420
Andrea Boccaletti: Sorry, that was from before.

1963
03:21:36.090 --> 03:21:41.730
Alley Bean: TIM, I am going to recuse myself that was cj so she said, in the interest of being smart I should.

1964
03:21:42.600 --> 03:21:46.440
james murez: say I am okay yeah because it's not clear whether I.

1965
03:21:46.650 --> 03:21:47.610
Alley Bean: don't want it to be.

1966
03:21:47.790 --> 03:21:48.750
james murez: I think you're I think.

1967
03:21:49.770 --> 03:21:55.080
james murez: Because I think that that someplace I remember it being said that that.

1968
03:21:56.310 --> 03:22:02.400
james murez: Even if you had a close relative a family, a close about family member like an immediate family member.

1969
03:22:03.780 --> 03:22:04.200
Alley Bean: of that.

1970
03:22:04.590 --> 03:22:05.730
james murez: And so that might.

1971
03:22:05.760 --> 03:22:11.400
james murez: So we have to clarify that let's do that for the next meeting, but you're right it's not worth jeopardizing the.

1972
03:22:12.810 --> 03:22:27.300
james murez: The vote count and having so what let's move on okay so uh leaks, is going to emotion in one second we have Elizabeth Andreas alley and cj all recusing.

1973
03:22:27.300 --> 03:22:27.990
themselves.

1974
03:22:29.040 --> 03:22:30.270
Alix Gucovsky: andres recusing.

1975
03:22:30.780 --> 03:22:32.130
james murez: Oh, I thought he said he was.

1976
03:22:33.600 --> 03:22:34.890
Alix Gucovsky: He had his hand up from the floor.

1977
03:22:35.760 --> 03:22:36.630
Andrea Boccaletti: i'm not recusing.

1978
03:22:36.750 --> 03:22:39.990
james murez: Oh, all right great okay so then there's just three people, not for.

1979
03:22:40.170 --> 03:22:42.690
melissa diner: You get I I have it let's go.

1980
03:22:42.960 --> 03:22:44.910
james murez: Okay, go ahead elite three the motion, please.

1981
03:22:45.660 --> 03:22:49.320
Alix Gucovsky: Okay, the mission is to prove the project is presented.

1982
03:22:50.910 --> 03:22:55.800
james murez: And that's a huge statement so let's hear more about it i'm.

1983
03:22:56.340 --> 03:22:59.580
melissa diner: Jim Someone needs to second it and then we'll hear more about it.

1984
03:22:59.850 --> 03:23:05.340
james murez: you're right Thank you i'll second that let's keep things actually I shouldn't second it somebody else should second.

1985
03:23:06.570 --> 03:23:07.920
Daffodil Tyminski: i'll second and staff adele.

1986
03:23:08.130 --> 03:23:09.150
james murez: Thank you daffodil.

1987
03:23:09.360 --> 03:23:16.440
Alix Gucovsky: And Jim i'm going to make i'd like to make an amended motion that we discussed procedurally can I can I read the Amended motion.

1988
03:23:17.070 --> 03:23:23.370
james murez: i'm actually before you read it, let me stop sharing screen and you put it up on the screen.

1989
03:23:23.850 --> 03:23:27.720
Alix Gucovsky: Okay hold on a second, let me get it onto my onto your screen.

1990
03:23:38.400 --> 03:23:45.660
Alix Gucovsky: Here we go, so the Amended motion is to approve the project is presented with the following conditions, by the way, can everybody.

1991
03:23:46.860 --> 03:23:48.420
james murez: Can you enlarge that a little bit.

1992
03:23:49.890 --> 03:23:50.730
Alix Gucovsky: Better for everybody.

1993
03:23:50.940 --> 03:23:51.540
james murez: Thank you.

1994
03:23:52.050 --> 03:23:52.710
you're welcome.

1995
03:23:53.970 --> 03:24:07.770
Alix Gucovsky: And the Amended motion is to approve the project is presented with the following conditions one subterranean parking garage reconfigured to accommodate cedar routes total parking reduced from 31 to 28 spaces.

1996
03:24:08.160 --> 03:24:23.490
Alix Gucovsky: To building set back next to ballpark increased from four foot 10 to 10 foot three to 15 to create a buffer between elm tree ballpark and our proposed building and redesign landscape basis ballpark to match ballpark landscaping.

1997
03:24:24.390 --> 03:24:37.710
Alix Gucovsky: Three plant new trees in public right of way adjacent to Venice boulevard via our permit process for remove a portion of subterranean storage on the corner of ocean mildred to provide room for mature tree.

1998
03:24:38.190 --> 03:24:46.890
Alix Gucovsky: Five remove pedestrian entrance on mildred six parking changed from unbundled to standard assignment of one parking space per unit.

1999
03:24:47.220 --> 03:24:56.250
Alix Gucovsky: And seven all seven affordable units will be master least by pod share who will convert some of their existing residents to long term, affordable tenants in the new build it.

2000
03:24:59.550 --> 03:25:02.490
james murez: We need to check in on the motion to amend.

2001
03:25:03.090 --> 03:25:04.050
jim robb: I will second it.

2002
03:25:05.220 --> 03:25:06.450
james murez: Thank you, Jim rob.

2003
03:25:07.740 --> 03:25:09.510
Alix Gucovsky: Thanks Do I need to keep that up Jim.

2004
03:25:10.020 --> 03:25:15.990
james murez: um no but I guess, I have a question before we move on from here.

2005
03:25:17.850 --> 03:25:29.850
james murez: If this is the substitute motion in the original the original motion had none of these conditions, but yet this is modifying the original project.

2006
03:25:32.640 --> 03:25:36.270
james murez: Where is it described with the conditions of the original project are.

2007
03:25:38.700 --> 03:25:40.410
Alix Gucovsky: In the description of the project.

2008
03:25:42.840 --> 03:25:50.820
james murez: Okay, so yeah let's share this and I guess is there a description because is this modifying any of the conditions of the.

2009
03:25:52.080 --> 03:25:56.820
james murez: That were described in the original project, so let me go back so I can share this other one now.

2010
03:25:57.960 --> 03:26:00.240
james murez: Is this the conditions that were originally there.

2011
03:26:01.500 --> 03:26:02.790
james murez: The case description.

2012
03:26:03.480 --> 03:26:13.800
Alix Gucovsky: No, these are so let me give you some context background to this gym so the project was approved by Lou peck with the case description that's outlined below.

2013
03:26:14.490 --> 03:26:24.150
Alix Gucovsky: And you may or may not know this, but the Community has been very, very involved in what is going to happen to this project I can't remember how many neighbors.

2014
03:26:24.510 --> 03:26:37.470
Alix Gucovsky: But Brian, who is the applicant on this, who is the who's the REP on this project has probably had I don't know 789 10 in person in zoom meetings with the with the Community.

2015
03:26:37.920 --> 03:26:54.120
Alix Gucovsky: And after after the loop heck meeting the Community was still unhappy with certain aspects of the project and Brian said I I know the project has been approved and it's going to go to the board, I would like to continue working with the Community to.

2016
03:26:54.660 --> 03:27:15.150
Alix Gucovsky: You know, really make sure everybody is on happy and on board and these conditions that are amended are actually what the Community came up with I wanted added to the agenda, so this is not my my doing this is not loop X doing this is a result of the applicant working with the Community.

2017
03:27:15.840 --> 03:27:17.700
james murez: So so let's do this.

2018
03:27:19.020 --> 03:27:23.910
james murez: um I believe the person who was staff on this is here tonight.

2019
03:27:25.200 --> 03:27:28.290
james murez: And said he was going to be let me just see if raquel.

2020
03:27:33.960 --> 03:27:35.610
james murez: raquel if you're here raise your hand.

2021
03:27:35.850 --> 03:27:38.190
Alix Gucovsky: I think, maybe he's under just Michael.

2022
03:27:38.820 --> 03:27:39.720
james murez: Is that possible.

2023
03:27:40.260 --> 03:27:43.290
Alix Gucovsky: could be I don't see his last yeah it is that Sam.

2024
03:27:43.620 --> 03:27:45.420
james murez: Do teachers raise his hand yeah.

2025
03:27:45.480 --> 03:27:45.990
Alix Gucovsky: yeah he did.

2026
03:27:46.350 --> 03:27:47.790
james murez: So let's promote him.

2027
03:27:48.930 --> 03:27:50.040
james murez: To panelist.

2028
03:27:51.510 --> 03:27:52.980
james murez: will take a second or two.

2029
03:27:54.720 --> 03:27:59.160
james murez: And maybe he can explain what the original conditions were that are now being modified.

2030
03:28:02.460 --> 03:28:03.870
james murez: Okay, well, let us know when you're here.

2031
03:28:05.490 --> 03:28:06.150
Michael: Good evening.

2032
03:28:06.840 --> 03:28:07.350
james murez: What do you pay.

2033
03:28:08.490 --> 03:28:10.860
Michael: So I was staff on this case.

2034
03:28:12.150 --> 03:28:15.420
Michael: there's a lengthy staff report that lays out.

2035
03:28:16.470 --> 03:28:22.470
Michael: It previews the condition or sorry not the conditions, the Community outreach that was conducted.

2036
03:28:23.580 --> 03:28:30.360
Michael: After Lou peck unanimously approved this the Brian the.

2037
03:28:31.470 --> 03:28:32.430
Michael: Applicants REP.

2038
03:28:34.200 --> 03:28:39.120
Michael: volunteered to continue working with some of the neighbors who were.

2039
03:28:40.590 --> 03:28:51.240
Michael: Especially vocal about some of its its laid on the staff for it but trees parking and the existing or current tenant.

2040
03:28:52.470 --> 03:29:07.530
Michael: These conditions, I believe, although i'll leave it to Brian to confirm that I think are being requested by the applicant if that's not the case prior and please correct me but as basically the negotiated.

2041
03:29:08.940 --> 03:29:10.890
Michael: Changes to the project.

2042
03:29:12.240 --> 03:29:26.370
james murez: Okay, so because of the hour of the night, and we still have a lot to get through before 11 o'clock when I think we really do want to have a hard enough time and if we don't get things done will either have a second meeting this month, or will have to roll them over the next month.

2043
03:29:28.650 --> 03:29:35.580
james murez: Brian if there's some issues that you think need to be further.

2044
03:29:37.620 --> 03:29:43.380
james murez: described that haven't already been well vetted in the land use committee.

2045
03:29:45.600 --> 03:29:57.060
james murez: or there's some disagreement with the statement that mchale or leaks just made now would be your chance to speak up otherwise let's hold your presentation to an absolute bare minimum.

2046
03:29:57.660 --> 03:30:07.110
james murez: And I think that if people want to know more about this, they should go to the committee meetings and will take public comment after your bit of presentation and if there's some rebuttal.

2047
03:30:07.890 --> 03:30:16.200
james murez: That needs to be made, because people are unaware of what your project actually is, then we can let you do that, during rebuttal, but I would rather.

2048
03:30:17.340 --> 03:30:30.210
james murez: try and keep your presentation is short as possible, so we can get on with the night, I do believe that this has already been very well that it in the Community, and if everybody's in agreement there's no reason to delay the process.

2049
03:30:31.950 --> 03:30:34.230
james murez: To go ahead, Brian if you have anything to put in put it in now.

2050
03:30:35.400 --> 03:30:42.180
Brian Silveira: All right, thank you very much, Brian silveira bryant's learn associates, on behalf of the applicant.

2051
03:30:43.830 --> 03:30:54.690
Brian Silveira: What what a week said and Miguel said is correct, so I won't add to it i'll just say that it's very important that all of these conditions become.

2052
03:30:55.230 --> 03:31:07.020
Brian Silveira: Part of whatever emotion, you make, if you choose to make a support motion because these are part of the agreement that I made with the neighbors based on the last couple of months of outreach.

2053
03:31:08.910 --> 03:31:10.020
Brian Silveira: Aside from that.

2054
03:31:11.310 --> 03:31:22.260
Brian Silveira: You know i'm happy to answer questions about the project, as you mentioned, this is, been very well vetted it's coming with a unanimous support both from lubec.

2055
03:31:22.950 --> 03:31:34.050
Brian Silveira: Probably almost two years worth of outreach now and I certainly hope the neighbors are happy and recognize that we've done everything we can to accommodate them.

2056
03:31:35.280 --> 03:31:35.460
Brian Silveira: and

2057
03:31:37.230 --> 03:31:42.000
Brian Silveira: You know I think i'll just leave it there, but i'm happy to answer questions, thank you okay.

2058
03:31:42.360 --> 03:31:47.310
james murez: yeah let's let's go to public comments anybody on the committee has a question right now clarity let's.

2059
03:31:48.540 --> 03:31:50.280
james murez: Go to public comment and we'll come back.

2060
03:31:52.140 --> 03:31:53.940
james murez: Okay, no questions from the committee.

2061
03:31:55.620 --> 03:32:09.930
james murez: I see a bunch of hands up it looks like Robin who i'm guessing it's probably my sister Robin beer as it's going to be our last speaker tonight so let's start with Nick and cello go ahead, Nick.

2062
03:32:10.620 --> 03:32:31.830
Nick Antonicello: had to travel to a state called the point of water, which I was not allowed able to do, and please vote the board member like Andrea makes a motion to table its proper, it is not the responsibility or the have to parliamentarian tell them, he cannot make a motion to table of course Applause

2063
03:32:31.890 --> 03:32:35.130
james murez: Thank you, Nick you're off topic each new he doesn't know what.

2064
03:32:35.130 --> 03:32:35.220
Nick Antonicello: He.

2065
03:32:35.850 --> 03:32:37.620
james murez: was appointed, you have any.

2066
03:32:39.030 --> 03:32:39.690
james murez: say about.

2067
03:32:41.310 --> 03:32:41.790
Nick Antonicello: me.

2068
03:32:42.210 --> 03:32:42.600
james murez: Thank you.

2069
03:32:47.910 --> 03:32:49.560
james murez: Robin well wait.

2070
03:32:50.580 --> 03:32:53.250
james murez: The jumping around here Robin go ahead.

2071
03:32:56.100 --> 03:32:57.180
james murez: I need to unmute you.

2072
03:32:58.740 --> 03:33:01.230
james murez: Thought I did, maybe twice Robin go ahead.

2073
03:33:02.490 --> 03:33:13.800
RobinRudisill: Alright hi Robin rudy so I support the project with the neighbor conditions and great job neighbors and Brian I checked the project out in detail as i'm very familiar with the density bonus ordinance.

2074
03:33:14.940 --> 03:33:24.300
RobinRudisill: The best thing about this project is that they're keeping it reasonably compatible with the vast scale of the neighborhood 30 feet tall 1.26 far i've seen a lot more.

2075
03:33:24.720 --> 03:33:34.050
RobinRudisill: i've seen a lot of egregious density bonus projects, and this is not one of them, so I feel that's a good precedent for a density bonus project in Venice, because it shows that density can be added.

2076
03:33:34.380 --> 03:33:39.150
RobinRudisill: while at the same time, the building is compatible with the neighborhood and best protecting venice's character.

2077
03:33:40.650 --> 03:33:41.280
james murez: Thank you.

2078
03:33:42.660 --> 03:33:44.100
james murez: Margaret malloy go ahead, thanks.

2079
03:33:45.180 --> 03:33:53.130
Margaret Molloy: So i'm curious if these conditions are enforceable because goodwill conditions are generally not enforceable.

2080
03:33:53.550 --> 03:34:07.170
Margaret Molloy: i'm most concerned about all seven units affordable units will be master lease by pod share, it is my understanding that pod share as it operated on the property was not illegal use of the property and it's.

2081
03:34:08.280 --> 03:34:26.010
Margaret Molloy: A kind of a transients model for housing, so I don't know why anybody would think in their right minds that that would be the appropriate master lease holder for affordable units so that's very concerning to me, and please have the applicant explain that Thank you.

2082
03:34:27.090 --> 03:34:27.750
james murez: Thank you.

2083
03:34:32.880 --> 03:34:35.040
james murez: Helen Helen go ahead, please.

2084
03:34:37.140 --> 03:34:43.800
Helen Fallon: I have two issues that i'm concerned about I object to using the public right away, I notice is counting and.

2085
03:34:44.250 --> 03:34:56.910
Helen Fallon: setback requirements, I don't I don't think that's appropriate to variance I also think the board needs to be aware that the plan with this project is to reconfigure Washington ways of the cars accident.

2086
03:34:57.480 --> 03:35:08.940
Helen Fallon: or parking garage will be exiting on Venice boulevard so there's a whole reworking of that intersection there that I don't think has been really disclose to you.

2087
03:35:11.220 --> 03:35:11.970
james murez: Thank you Helen.

2088
03:35:19.530 --> 03:35:21.030
james murez: Erica more go ahead, please.

2089
03:35:25.530 --> 03:35:29.220
Erica Moore: hi, I would like to say that I really appreciate the amount of.

2090
03:35:31.380 --> 03:35:41.880
Erica Moore: outreach that Brian has done, I really wish that the developers in my area would do that with us, but they don't you know ease Venice is not treated like that, so I just want to thank you for that.

2091
03:35:43.380 --> 03:35:44.070
james murez: Thank you.

2092
03:35:46.710 --> 03:35:48.540
james murez: Elizabeth right go ahead, please.

2093
03:36:00.900 --> 03:36:08.130
james murez: Elizabeth go ahead, please unmute yourself oh you put your hand down okay i'm.

2094
03:36:11.880 --> 03:36:12.810
james murez: puppet go ahead.

2095
03:36:25.290 --> 03:36:26.280
james murez: Hope it's not there.

2096
03:36:28.860 --> 03:36:29.670
james murez: But, are you there.

2097
03:36:32.250 --> 03:36:32.820
james murez: it's not.

2098
03:36:35.580 --> 03:36:36.720
james murez: Yolanda go ahead.

2099
03:36:38.400 --> 03:36:41.520
Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, I am i've seen this.

2100
03:36:42.660 --> 03:37:00.720
Yolanda Gonzalez: Project go already 10 years, and this is the first time I see something that is really compatible to where I am at which is around the corner um I just want to say something that it is the city that dictates.

2101
03:37:02.220 --> 03:37:04.590
Yolanda Gonzalez: How projects come about.

2102
03:37:06.030 --> 03:37:14.820
Yolanda Gonzalez: The Community can only put an input, but it's the city that really will say to the developer what he can get away with and what he can do.

2103
03:37:15.720 --> 03:37:23.310
Yolanda Gonzalez: So at this, this is the first time I seen something that is really presentable I think it's compatible with where we live.

2104
03:37:23.790 --> 03:37:40.320
Yolanda Gonzalez: And I would right like to see this project for the first time, go through they gone through a lot it's a very difficult corner, to develop, but the city will dictate what were they have to put in the right away the.

2105
03:37:41.850 --> 03:37:46.200
Yolanda Gonzalez: walkway, but this should go forward now, thank you.

2106
03:37:47.250 --> 03:37:47.940
james murez: Thank you.

2107
03:37:49.110 --> 03:37:51.420
james murez: And our last speaker, someone named Robin.

2108
03:37:53.820 --> 03:37:54.270
james murez: Robin.

2109
03:37:54.600 --> 03:37:57.720
Robin: hi it's Robin us so i'm.

2110
03:37:59.040 --> 03:38:14.670
Robin: Robin ruda still is correct, that this is well in yolanda's correct so basically we were faced with a situation where we had to accept that this is a substantially larger development than I believe any of the neighbors wanted.

2111
03:38:15.930 --> 03:38:27.510
Robin: That the property has a really cool old church and open space, and we would have loved to have seen something done that is much more creative in utilizing those properties.

2112
03:38:28.740 --> 03:38:36.120
Robin: But in that we don't seem to have any chance of doing that Brian is to be commended for listening.

2113
03:38:37.290 --> 03:38:43.770
Robin: I was very disappointed that loop acted nothing about getting into the property and I guess that's not there right but.

2114
03:38:44.280 --> 03:38:52.710
Robin: it's got to be they would the way the project was originally designed, they would have been cutting all the routes or so many of the routes that the huge.

2115
03:38:53.280 --> 03:39:03.780
Robin: gorgeous tree in the ballpark would have been killed, and thank you, Brian for making it possible, they pushed the buildings back in order to save that tree and the coral tree.

2116
03:39:04.080 --> 03:39:05.520
james murez: your time is up, thank you, Robin.

2117
03:39:06.900 --> 03:39:09.660
james murez: i'm okay that ended public comment.

2118
03:39:11.670 --> 03:39:14.430
james murez: has his hand up go ahead puppet you had, I called on you man.

2119
03:39:17.160 --> 03:39:17.910
james murez: yeah go ahead.

2120
03:39:18.420 --> 03:39:22.350
- Puppet: So we're being stuck again between a rock and my body.

2121
03:39:24.210 --> 03:39:35.130
- Puppet: Yes, always having to accept the worst right Mike me right vicki we always have to accept the horse why can't we accept the best.

2122
03:39:36.660 --> 03:39:56.040
- Puppet: what's the start denying all these projects and send them all to the grand jury for clarification, like you clarify your standing role let's make sure, Mr weeds are wasn't involved in any part of this project on any teeny weeny level.

2123
03:39:57.210 --> 03:40:22.440
- Puppet: So I make a motion to deny the project, and I make a motion to hate the project, yes, I imagine your presser motion that we hate the project, because we do we hate developers and we love trees and little tiny pretty houses, we hate this project I can't stand it that keeps me up at night.

2124
03:40:23.310 --> 03:40:24.210
james murez: Thank you.

2125
03:40:25.230 --> 03:40:26.280
james murez: Thank you good night.

2126
03:40:28.170 --> 03:40:31.140
james murez: Okay um that ends public comment.

2127
03:40:32.340 --> 03:40:35.730
james murez: Now, having that been.

2128
03:40:37.110 --> 03:40:42.690
james murez: The case, there was a couple of questions, Brian that came up that maybe you can answer.

2129
03:40:44.310 --> 03:40:47.760
james murez: There was one about voluntary conditions are not enforceable.

2130
03:40:48.780 --> 03:41:06.060
james murez: which I believe is the case, so I want to understand how you're going to assure the Community that the voluntary conditions you're creating will actually be met, and second, is how is pod share a company that's not normally involved in in.

2131
03:41:08.430 --> 03:41:25.680
james murez: affordable housing going to be administrating a program where the units are being rented under the current or the laws that would exist at the time for how affordable housing needs to be rented going to take that.

2132
03:41:26.700 --> 03:41:35.130
Brian Silveira: Sure, so i'm i'm very aware of the fact that lots of volunteer conditions are not enforceable.

2133
03:41:36.090 --> 03:41:48.900
Brian Silveira: But in this case, all of these are enforceable and, if you look at them you'll see why it's because they're there are seven of them, the first six all have to do with tangible design changes.

2134
03:41:49.410 --> 03:42:00.960
Brian Silveira: So every single one of those design changes has already been implemented, their reflected on the plans that were shared with the neighborhood Council that was posted to your agenda.

2135
03:42:01.440 --> 03:42:09.060
Brian Silveira: And they were also reflected on the plans that we sent to the city, which will become the exhibit a approved plans so, for instance.

2136
03:42:10.590 --> 03:42:15.720
Brian Silveira: You know, changing our parking from 31 to 28 spaces and redesigning the sub garage.

2137
03:42:15.780 --> 03:42:21.660
james murez: Right, let me, let me interrupt you, for one second elite, can you repost what those seven conditions are that he's referring to.

2138
03:42:22.680 --> 03:42:25.440
Brian Silveira: Go ahead, Brian i'm happy to share my screen to if you go.

2139
03:42:25.440 --> 03:42:27.360
james murez: If you have it, that would be fine one of the two of.

2140
03:42:28.590 --> 03:42:31.920
Brian Silveira: You know what the leaks, if you have them go ahead and put them up, please.

2141
03:42:34.530 --> 03:42:36.750
james murez: Go ahead, Brian with your your your coffee talk.

2142
03:42:37.590 --> 03:42:50.160
Brian Silveira: Sure, so it just as an example the first condition we redesign this up parking garage we removed three parking spaces to accommodate the root system for the large cedar tree.

2143
03:42:51.060 --> 03:43:02.640
Brian Silveira: So so that's a tangible designed to the plans that's that's actually reflected on the plans that are being sent to the city our new request is for 28 spaces and not 31 spaces.

2144
03:43:03.630 --> 03:43:08.340
Brian Silveira: If you go down i'm not going to read them all, but it's it's sort of the same thing for every single one of these conditions.

2145
03:43:08.910 --> 03:43:24.120
Brian Silveira: And then you come to the last one, the master lease, so this is one where we we did this as a right of first refusal, but the document is still being worked on, I think that the Community wanted to see.

2146
03:43:25.380 --> 03:43:43.170
Brian Silveira: To make sure that there was a legal document that have more teeth just to prove up the punch or would in fact have the opportunity to lease each unit, so that that document is ongoing, but should be done soon, all of this is verifiable tangible not just fluff.

2147
03:43:44.850 --> 03:43:45.570
Brian Silveira: And then.

2148
03:43:46.020 --> 03:43:57.750
james murez: The question, let me, let me clarify the question if pod chair is not the tenant for the affordable units did the units that not become affordable any longer.

2149
03:43:58.140 --> 03:44:05.370
Brian Silveira: Oh no Of course not, so the units will all be deed restrictive very low income through the housing department.

2150
03:44:06.180 --> 03:44:10.290
Brian Silveira: CERN, and so I, if I may i'll answer because that thats related to.

2151
03:44:10.380 --> 03:44:11.460
Brian Silveira: The second question.

2152
03:44:13.470 --> 03:44:27.150
Brian Silveira: Even though the units will be deed restricted very low income, there was a concern among the Community, and I think this is a broader concern to that deed restricted very low income units don't have enough oversight and it's often the case that.

2153
03:44:28.680 --> 03:44:41.790
Brian Silveira: Non very low income people end up in those units or people who are undeserving so they wanted to see those units operated master least by somebody they knew.

2154
03:44:42.720 --> 03:44:54.360
Brian Silveira: would be guaranteed to actually have deserving very low income tenants pod share was a good choice because pod pod here is not authorized to operate.

2155
03:44:55.050 --> 03:45:06.930
Brian Silveira: Long term tenants, but they do have a lot of Community Members, in particular, older people and people of color who would qualify as very low income would love to have long term housing.

2156
03:45:07.620 --> 03:45:20.820
Brian Silveira: And so that then naturally led to this idea where pod share would master lease those units and then take some of their current folks and put them in permanent housing okay great.

2157
03:45:20.940 --> 03:45:22.440
james murez: Thank you for that clarification.

2158
03:45:23.160 --> 03:45:23.640
james murez: Let me.

2159
03:45:23.730 --> 03:45:26.070
james murez: The leaks i'm going to share you now.

2160
03:45:26.640 --> 03:45:34.260
james murez: let's Thank you um do we have questions from the board about the project.

2161
03:45:35.670 --> 03:45:38.010
james murez: A leak you're the only one that has your hand up go ahead.

2162
03:45:39.960 --> 03:45:52.890
Alix Gucovsky: Sorry, I just wanted to say a couple of things about this, because I think it's important to show where the process works, those that Lou Pack and at the board and when this project was presented at Lou Pack.

2163
03:45:54.030 --> 03:46:03.540
Alix Gucovsky: The you know we approved it, but the Community still had concerns and the applicant said hold off on presenting it to the board i'm going to keep working with the Community.

2164
03:46:04.110 --> 03:46:09.090
Alix Gucovsky: And Isabella who runs our committee was very active and getting involved in.

2165
03:46:09.360 --> 03:46:19.470
Alix Gucovsky: Looking at other design options to ensure preserve of trees, many of you who know me and Jim is on this one as well, too, I think, preserving our tree canopy is is a crucial and.

2166
03:46:19.830 --> 03:46:27.900
Alix Gucovsky: critical importance so really nice to see that the effort was made there and then, finally, in terms of density.

2167
03:46:28.770 --> 03:46:40.290
Alix Gucovsky: You know i've been i've been very vocal about how I feel about density, especially with our failing infrastructure, but we have rena numbers that are going to dictate, we need new housing and especially low income housing.

2168
03:46:40.710 --> 03:46:50.940
Alix Gucovsky: And to have a project that both provides low income, housing and and market rate housing and fits within within the massing of the of the.

2169
03:46:51.180 --> 03:47:06.540
Alix Gucovsky: Of the neighborhood is a really great precedent that we're setting to save this can be done so, you know those are those are my comments on this and, and I hope that the board votes to support this, just as as loop active thanks.

2170
03:47:07.080 --> 03:47:13.380
james murez: Okay, well, your comment raised three more hands so let's hear these other three more speakers now Robert go ahead, please.

2171
03:47:16.800 --> 03:47:17.550
james murez: gotta unmute.

2172
03:47:17.880 --> 03:47:26.250
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: yep sorry took a SEC so is the proper procedure to make a friendly amendment since.

2173
03:47:27.570 --> 03:47:28.710
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: To include the.

2174
03:47:29.910 --> 03:47:33.750
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: stuff that leaks was saying, the additional points is that how we do this.

2175
03:47:33.930 --> 03:47:43.200
james murez: Well, so so her motion is already on the floor what we would do is we'll take her motion first and.

2176
03:47:43.620 --> 03:47:44.790
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: boat okay.

2177
03:47:44.910 --> 03:47:45.450
james murez: I just.

2178
03:47:45.570 --> 03:47:47.580
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: I just wanted to make sure this got added.

2179
03:47:47.670 --> 03:47:48.930
james murez: Because no no we're gonna.

2180
03:47:48.960 --> 03:48:06.090
james murez: we're going to take her motion, let me just answer it we're going to take a promotion it added an additional points we're going to either boat that up or down and then we're going to go back to the original motion, which is to the project, as proposed, and for one that.

2181
03:48:07.050 --> 03:48:12.420
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: Okay, I just didn't see those on the agenda, so I didn't know if they were noticed, so I thought.

2182
03:48:12.450 --> 03:48:27.150
james murez: That might be the way to do and actually this was part of the procedural stuff that we talked about a leaks and I and the applicant had a meeting before the meeting they talked about sending a copy of those seven points to Melissa so she would have a copy of them.

2183
03:48:27.510 --> 03:48:36.870
james murez: And we will discuss them right off at the beginning of the meeting, because this was a negotiation that occurred between the time loop Packard the project and when the board got the.

2184
03:48:36.870 --> 03:48:39.210
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: Project all good just trying to help move it along.

2185
03:48:39.510 --> 03:48:41.640
james murez: Very good, thank you Mike go ahead.

2186
03:48:42.810 --> 03:48:45.630
Mike Bravo: yeah no, I just want to thank Brian for.

2187
03:48:47.040 --> 03:48:55.800
Mike Bravo: For this great project here I mean seven you into the low affordable housing that's really I thought I was, I thought it was dreaming or something that's just like a unicorn.

2188
03:48:56.370 --> 03:49:05.370
Mike Bravo: And these parts of the dnc and lpc meeting so, as you know, obviously I would think there's more that can be done for low income housing to restore equity and.

2189
03:49:06.750 --> 03:49:12.090
Mike Bravo: Cultural complicity in this Community, and I think there's always more this lead, I think this is a very becoming.

2190
03:49:13.200 --> 03:49:18.330
Mike Bravo: behavior and action I hope other people's take note of you know, the way to do things, so thank you, Brian.

2191
03:49:20.670 --> 03:49:23.490
james murez: Thank you Mike Sema go ahead, please.

2192
03:49:27.870 --> 03:49:37.320
Sima Kostovetsky: I just wanted to say that I think it's important to support responsible development and responsible developers so thanks for bringing this project in front of us.

2193
03:49:39.000 --> 03:49:39.570
james murez: Thank you.

2194
03:49:39.900 --> 03:49:42.840
Sima Kostovetsky: This is a lot it's been a long time that we're all like kind of united.

2195
03:49:44.970 --> 03:49:46.080
james murez: Well, we haven't voted yet.

2196
03:49:46.500 --> 03:49:47.790
james murez: Sorry i'm.

2197
03:49:49.620 --> 03:49:52.800
james murez: bloody bloods I see no more hands up from the.

2198
03:49:53.550 --> 03:50:01.410
james murez: From the board, Melissa you want to take a vote and do me a favor start having me come at the end, so if I need to do a tiebreaker I can.

2199
03:50:03.900 --> 03:50:04.620
james murez: Set okay.

2200
03:50:05.460 --> 03:50:09.270
melissa diner: Because you like let's just a couple things.

2201
03:50:10.680 --> 03:50:14.220
melissa diner: You you can't be a tiebreaker if you vote on everything.

2202
03:50:14.370 --> 03:50:14.640
yeah.

2203
03:50:15.750 --> 03:50:15.990
james murez: yeah.

2204
03:50:16.410 --> 03:50:21.030
melissa diner: Okay i'm gonna So yes, if you want to stop voting on things and i'll take you with that.

2205
03:50:21.900 --> 03:50:23.730
james murez: I want to I want my voice to be heard.

2206
03:50:24.960 --> 03:50:28.500
melissa diner: So you're gonna vote on everything and then not be a tiebreaker.

2207
03:50:29.760 --> 03:50:33.840
melissa diner: we'll figure it out, I mean like I understand what you're saying we'll talk about this.

2208
03:50:34.200 --> 03:50:35.370
melissa diner: hold on give me a second.

2209
03:50:36.090 --> 03:50:38.430
james murez: Whenever you're ready, I will continue to vote.

2210
03:51:01.230 --> 03:51:13.230
james murez: While she's doing that it's 1046 i'm going to call this at 11 o'clock and I guess been between now and levin o'clock i'd like everybody to think about whether or not we're going to have a second meeting in between now and our next regular meeting.

2211
03:51:13.260 --> 03:51:14.880
james murez: Or whether or not we're just going to roll everything.

2212
03:51:14.880 --> 03:51:23.970
james murez: over to our next meeting, and there are some items that I think we're probably time sensitive, so we probably want to have a second meeting.

2213
03:51:24.090 --> 03:51:28.320
melissa diner: I don't see how what we can take in bulk and get it done right tell.

2214
03:51:28.350 --> 03:51:31.290
james murez: Tell us tell us when you're ready to let's get.

2215
03:51:31.590 --> 03:51:35.340
melissa diner: fully ready just wanted to give that brief interlude as well, Jim.

2216
03:51:36.000 --> 03:51:36.630
Yes.

2217
03:51:38.370 --> 03:51:38.970
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

2218
03:51:39.330 --> 03:51:40.770
melissa diner: I will, yes, Andrea.

2219
03:51:41.460 --> 03:51:42.870
melissa diner: Yes, please.

2220
03:51:43.410 --> 03:51:44.640
melissa diner: Yes, thank you.

2221
03:51:45.030 --> 03:51:45.480
Yes.

2222
03:51:47.730 --> 03:51:48.210
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

2223
03:51:48.540 --> 03:51:49.020
Ali.

2224
03:51:52.800 --> 03:51:53.070
Alix Gucovsky: she's.

2225
03:51:54.090 --> 03:51:55.350
Alix Gucovsky: recused Melissa.

2226
03:51:56.340 --> 03:52:00.480
melissa diner: Oh she's yeah I have heard my notes and recuse it's just not my sheet okay.

2227
03:52:01.320 --> 03:52:01.920
Yes.

2228
03:52:05.550 --> 03:52:06.930
melissa diner: Mike bravo.

2229
03:52:08.070 --> 03:52:08.760
Mike Bravo: Yes.

2230
03:52:09.810 --> 03:52:10.590
melissa diner: So the dad.

2231
03:52:10.860 --> 03:52:11.340
Yes.

2232
03:52:12.540 --> 03:52:13.140
melissa diner: All over.

2233
03:52:13.530 --> 03:52:15.150
melissa diner: This damn job.

2234
03:52:15.660 --> 03:52:19.350
melissa diner: that's mark brown Roberts of it, oh.

2235
03:52:20.610 --> 03:52:21.240
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: Yes.

2236
03:52:21.420 --> 03:52:22.020
melissa diner: For now.

2237
03:52:23.430 --> 03:52:24.150
melissa diner: Jason.

2238
03:52:24.870 --> 03:52:26.310
melissa diner: Yes, NICO.

2239
03:52:27.060 --> 03:52:29.130
melissa diner: yeah Okay, thank you.

2240
03:52:29.850 --> 03:52:30.870
Brian Silveira: Thank you so much guys.

2241
03:52:31.260 --> 03:52:37.080
james murez: Now we're going to take a vote on the original motion, which is to.

2242
03:52:39.210 --> 03:52:44.730
james murez: approve the project as presented with this amendment now attached to it.

2243
03:52:48.270 --> 03:52:52.770
melissa diner: Do we have to take a roll call motion or, can I just say.

2244
03:52:53.280 --> 03:52:54.780
james murez: Melissa, we have to do it.

2245
03:52:55.350 --> 03:52:56.250
melissa diner: You really don't.

2246
03:52:56.460 --> 03:52:57.150
james murez: Well it's.

2247
03:52:57.270 --> 03:52:58.020
melissa diner: Not we're just.

2248
03:52:59.760 --> 03:53:01.080
vicki halliday: You on let's go.

2249
03:53:02.850 --> 03:53:03.150
melissa diner: So.

2250
03:53:03.750 --> 03:53:04.200
Andrea Boccaletti: We have to.

2251
03:53:04.260 --> 03:53:07.680
melissa diner: uh but also here's The other thing if we want to get into the Rules.

2252
03:53:07.890 --> 03:53:14.010
melissa diner: They only have one motion on the floor so where's the second motion and a second, I have one motion on the floor.

2253
03:53:14.130 --> 03:53:17.670
Alix Gucovsky: Melissa I made the first motion and I believe someone else second did it.

2254
03:53:17.730 --> 03:53:18.780
melissa diner: Right, but now we're.

2255
03:53:18.780 --> 03:53:21.330
melissa diner: Going back to the US another one we didn't.

2256
03:53:21.840 --> 03:53:23.100
melissa diner: vote on them, I know.

2257
03:53:23.280 --> 03:53:29.520
james murez: She then she then introduced the second motion, and it was again.

2258
03:53:30.720 --> 03:53:31.470
james murez: Second.

2259
03:53:31.830 --> 03:53:33.510
melissa diner: I don't think so, but that.

2260
03:53:35.430 --> 03:53:38.880
Ivan: was an amendment to the original motion.

2261
03:53:40.380 --> 03:53:40.770
Ivan: Okay.

2262
03:53:40.920 --> 03:53:42.300
melissa diner: But there was never any.

2263
03:53:42.300 --> 03:53:42.870
melissa diner: first started.

2264
03:53:44.070 --> 03:53:47.610
Ivan: Now you're going back to the original motion as amended.

2265
03:53:47.880 --> 03:53:52.650
james murez: hey I think the confusion is is that Melissa doesn't have in her notes.

2266
03:53:53.850 --> 03:53:59.160
james murez: With the original motion was originally made by leaks and seconded by was a gym rob.

2267
03:53:59.580 --> 03:54:03.210
melissa diner: No, it was seconded by daffodil I have no emotion.

2268
03:54:04.560 --> 03:54:06.450
james murez: Well, there was, I remember Jim rob.

2269
03:54:06.540 --> 03:54:07.260
james murez: Saying that he.

2270
03:54:08.250 --> 03:54:11.070
Alix Gucovsky: snuck into the the amendment to the motion that I put up.

2271
03:54:11.220 --> 03:54:12.690
james murez: Here, the first one was.

2272
03:54:13.140 --> 03:54:19.710
melissa diner: I might have been away, while it was public comment and you guys did this in the bathroom or something so that's fine, I just want to make sure I haven't.

2273
03:54:19.740 --> 03:54:23.730
james murez: daffodil that you have a second, the original motion.

2274
03:54:24.150 --> 03:54:29.790
james murez: I did Okay, so it was originally a leaks and daffodil on the original motion.

2275
03:54:29.970 --> 03:54:30.630
melissa diner: and have that.

2276
03:54:30.870 --> 03:54:40.530
james murez: And then the leaks in Jim rob on the Amended motion the mended motion was just voted on, now we need to take roll call vote on the original motion, which was a.

2277
03:54:41.220 --> 03:54:42.390
james murez: Just presented yes.

2278
03:54:44.070 --> 03:54:45.720
melissa diner: Yes, yes.

2279
03:54:49.110 --> 03:54:50.610
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, leaks.

2280
03:54:50.760 --> 03:54:52.170
melissa diner: Yes, vicki.

2281
03:54:52.440 --> 03:54:53.790
melissa diner: Yes, fema.

2282
03:54:56.790 --> 03:54:57.300
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

2283
03:54:57.750 --> 03:54:59.070
Sima Kostovetsky: hi yes.

2284
03:54:59.280 --> 03:55:02.460
Mike Bravo: Mike yes, yes.

2285
03:55:03.720 --> 03:55:04.140
Oliver Fries: Yes.

2286
03:55:04.500 --> 03:55:04.800
James.

2287
03:55:08.250 --> 03:55:08.610
melissa diner: James.

2288
03:55:09.270 --> 03:55:09.570
Yes.

2289
03:55:14.700 --> 03:55:15.270
clark brown: Yes.

2290
03:55:17.070 --> 03:55:17.640
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: Yes.

2291
03:55:18.060 --> 03:55:19.590
Bruno Hernandez: or no yes.

2292
03:55:19.770 --> 03:55:21.330
Jason Sugars: Jason yes.

2293
03:55:21.540 --> 03:55:22.050
NICO.

2294
03:55:26.340 --> 03:55:26.760
melissa diner: NICO.

2295
03:55:30.330 --> 03:55:31.080
melissa diner: is not here.

2296
03:55:32.970 --> 03:55:34.800
james murez: he's not sitting in his chair.

2297
03:55:35.190 --> 03:55:39.060
melissa diner: Okay, so we're gonna vote him abstained and move on.

2298
03:55:42.120 --> 03:55:46.260
Daffodil Tyminski: Is that everyone actually don't you don't vote as abstain, I think he just doesn't count in the whole.

2299
03:55:46.320 --> 03:55:46.890
james murez: yeah he's that.

2300
03:55:46.920 --> 03:55:48.030
melissa diner: are absent great.

2301
03:55:48.060 --> 03:55:49.140
Nico Ruderman: Perfect sorry i'm back.

2302
03:55:49.200 --> 03:55:49.620
melissa diner: Thank you.

2303
03:55:49.710 --> 03:55:50.340
james murez: Oh NICO.

2304
03:55:52.740 --> 03:55:54.810
Nico Ruderman: I actually have to stay i'm sorry.

2305
03:55:55.290 --> 03:55:56.820
melissa diner: Okay, thank you.

2306
03:56:03.960 --> 03:56:04.500
melissa diner: Moving on.

2307
03:56:05.430 --> 03:56:18.000
james murez: Okay, you want to announce with the The outcome was, I think it was it was passed wasn't it yep okay great Thank you all right, let me re share the agenda, maybe we can get through it yeah hold on Ivan.

2308
03:56:18.030 --> 03:56:24.330
Ivan: When I make a suggestion, if you have one of the items that was pulled from the consent calendar.

2309
03:56:24.450 --> 03:56:33.510
Ivan: Yet we're not currently they were here last month, it was up, then it got postponed, it was young, the content calendar tonight and then pulled.

2310
03:56:34.020 --> 03:56:37.950
Ivan: I got ingest that you would be fair, the stakeholder if you.

2311
03:56:37.980 --> 03:56:38.700
james murez: Let let.

2312
03:56:39.630 --> 03:56:41.280
james murez: Let it slip through 11.

2313
03:56:41.340 --> 03:56:45.810
james murez: A, which is the next item up if you know if this is already over.

2314
03:56:47.280 --> 03:56:48.090
Ivan: To half an hour.

2315
03:56:48.390 --> 03:56:49.440
james murez: Ivan Thank you.

2316
03:56:50.040 --> 03:56:50.550
Okay.

2317
03:56:57.660 --> 03:56:59.850
What time did we published this then it's going to end.

2318
03:57:01.440 --> 03:57:02.250
james murez: up in peace pm.

2319
03:57:05.550 --> 03:57:11.190
james murez: What do we have left we have 11 a new business housing homeless bubble.

2320
03:57:13.680 --> 03:57:15.450
radius.

2321
03:57:17.640 --> 03:57:24.090
james murez: We have mission statement for discussion forum mission statement for almost committee.

2322
03:57:25.500 --> 03:57:30.780
melissa diner: I mean, can I just make a motion to put 12 a through C or past 12 eighth or see.

2323
03:57:32.310 --> 03:57:33.000
james murez: well.

2324
03:57:38.460 --> 03:57:46.380
james murez: Then we have to take public comment on it, we have to go through all of that let's let's do this first I mean, let me, let me ask the let me stop sharing for seven.

2325
03:57:48.570 --> 03:57:53.340
james murez: You guys want to go for another hour and get through this or do you want to have a second meeting next week.

2326
03:57:56.970 --> 03:57:57.090
Soledad Ursua: I.

2327
03:57:57.180 --> 03:57:59.790
vicki halliday: think we could keep going for another hour.

2328
03:58:01.080 --> 03:58:01.440
vicki halliday: But.

2329
03:58:01.620 --> 03:58:02.310
Mike Bravo: I think it's gonna.

2330
03:58:03.570 --> 03:58:04.650
Mike Bravo: be like two hours on wait a.

2331
03:58:04.650 --> 03:58:17.700
vicki halliday: minute hold on man i've been sitting here being really nice and i'm about to pull up because there's a lot of shit going on in Venice and so far, a lot of this tonight, has been self referential b&c bullshit.

2332
03:58:18.480 --> 03:58:27.330
vicki halliday: And so, if we can speed it up and make it efficient let's do it, but this what we've been through tonight is fucking ridiculous.

2333
03:58:29.910 --> 03:58:30.540
vicki halliday: i'm done.

2334
03:58:31.170 --> 03:58:31.830
james murez: Thank you vicki.

2335
03:58:33.330 --> 03:58:33.690
jim robb: vicki.

2336
03:58:36.330 --> 03:58:46.650
james murez: I I would look I, personally, I would rather see us get through it tonight and not have a backlog of additional work later on, but I also understand that people have things that.

2337
03:58:48.180 --> 03:58:58.980
james murez: They need to call it quits now uh you know, again, we could continue to have the meeting if we have 11 people, so the question is, with a show of hands.

2338
03:58:59.610 --> 03:59:07.020
james murez: Who wants to, and when I say hands raise your hand with little icon down at the bottom everybody raised their hand that would like to continue to work on this and get through it tonight.

2339
03:59:16.590 --> 03:59:30.210
james murez: 1234 567-810-1213 1415 1616 people 17 people would like to get through, tonight we have a quorum so we'll continue to work on this tonight everybody, please lower their hand.

2340
03:59:31.170 --> 03:59:35.760
melissa diner: So Can somebody second the motion, then, to put 12 eight through see on the agenda.

2341
03:59:36.510 --> 03:59:37.230
Alley Bean: A second.

2342
03:59:38.130 --> 03:59:38.820
melissa diner: Thank you.

2343
03:59:39.570 --> 03:59:41.340
james murez: To put it on the agenda.

2344
03:59:41.550 --> 03:59:49.410
melissa diner: or whatever to fucking sorry I don't mean to say that word to get it done to move on to vote.

2345
03:59:49.530 --> 03:59:50.400
clark brown: On the agenda.

2346
03:59:50.850 --> 03:59:51.840
james murez: it's yeah it's on me.

2347
03:59:52.080 --> 03:59:56.670
james murez: I don't understand, let me, let me conduct the meeting and let's just continue to.

2348
03:59:57.090 --> 04:00:02.040
melissa diner: know I just said, I wanted to make a motion to put to pass 12 a through see.

2349
04:00:03.270 --> 04:00:04.230
melissa diner: Ali second did it.

2350
04:00:05.010 --> 04:00:06.330
Daffodil Tyminski: Just please real with the.

2351
04:00:06.330 --> 04:00:07.560
Andrea Boccaletti: Agenda i've been.

2352
04:00:08.520 --> 04:00:10.440
Andrea Boccaletti: One person run the meeting, please.

2353
04:00:10.890 --> 04:00:14.100
james murez: yeah Melissa I don't understand what you're trying to do.

2354
04:00:14.760 --> 04:00:15.030
melissa diner: well.

2355
04:00:15.090 --> 04:00:18.090
james murez: At what you want to Okay, so you want okay.

2356
04:00:19.110 --> 04:00:22.080
james murez: Do we want to have any discussion about.

2357
04:00:22.110 --> 04:00:24.330
Daffodil Tyminski: Jim Jim you need to take control here.

2358
04:00:24.480 --> 04:00:28.260
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah continue with the agenda as presented, and when we.

2359
04:00:28.260 --> 04:00:28.560
Daffodil Tyminski: Get the.

2360
04:00:28.860 --> 04:00:30.090
Daffodil Tyminski: way, we can consider that.

2361
04:00:30.240 --> 04:00:30.690
james murez: that's right.

2362
04:00:30.750 --> 04:00:32.370
Alley Bean: I didn't know what the question was i'm.

2363
04:00:32.370 --> 04:00:33.630
Daffodil Tyminski: Some and.

2364
04:00:33.870 --> 04:00:38.220
james murez: Mostly you got to just hang on Okay, I understand you want to get through it, I do too let's get through it.

2365
04:00:38.730 --> 04:00:48.090
Daffodil Tyminski: And I will say for public comment, for example, you know some of these we've gotten dozens and dozens of emails like on.

2366
04:00:48.810 --> 04:01:00.390
Daffodil Tyminski: Please try not to repeat everyone's comment, making a comment to say you really like the comment, the previous person said it's not helpful when we're trying to get through it so yeah, but I would stick.

2367
04:01:01.410 --> 04:01:06.900
james murez: So what let's let's do our selection now of the Community members for the.

2368
04:01:08.190 --> 04:01:10.290
james murez: neighborhood applications and.

2369
04:01:11.010 --> 04:01:15.240
Daffodil Tyminski: So if I could present this gem, to make this go a little faster, I think.

2370
04:01:15.660 --> 04:01:16.170
james murez: By all means.

2371
04:01:17.070 --> 04:01:20.760
james murez: go right ahead deputy lucid your committee, you take it from here you've been.

2372
04:01:21.090 --> 04:01:23.640
Daffodil Tyminski: I mean it, this should not be difficult at all.

2373
04:01:24.930 --> 04:01:28.110
Daffodil Tyminski: There are nine neighborhoods.

2374
04:01:29.190 --> 04:01:38.040
Daffodil Tyminski: That had that we can appoint someone to as is pretty typical we did not get an application for every single sub area.

2375
04:01:39.570 --> 04:01:53.250
Daffodil Tyminski: And there's only one APP one sub area that we got two applications for so basically everyone is on except for the Venice canals area where we need to vote between two candidates.

2376
04:01:53.760 --> 04:02:00.480
Daffodil Tyminski: I can go through the areas and the names and all that if you want um it's you know it's all been listed for a couple months there.

2377
04:02:01.080 --> 04:02:17.640
Daffodil Tyminski: The only person that has not been listed for a couple of months is William would from East Venice, who did get his application in on time, for whatever reason It all went into like our spam and we didn't realize it, but I talked to him directly and.

2378
04:02:18.810 --> 04:02:26.880
Daffodil Tyminski: He will be on for East Venice, but in the Venice canals area we had two applicants, we had chuck rosen and darryl do fe.

2379
04:02:27.960 --> 04:02:36.840
Daffodil Tyminski: And so my suggestion, I would like to make a motion to form the neighborhood committee with the following candidates in the following locations.

2380
04:02:37.980 --> 04:02:40.500
Daffodil Tyminski: silver strand cassie aniston void.

2381
04:02:43.380 --> 04:02:54.240
Daffodil Tyminski: oakland oakwood know would Elliot chair off Oxford triangle Rita moser East link and William would and then for the Venice canals area check rosen or delta fe.

2382
04:02:56.160 --> 04:03:02.790
Daffodil Tyminski: i'd like to do this tonight, so we can form a committee and then add the subsequent members later, to the extent we we can.

2383
04:03:03.120 --> 04:03:03.780
james murez: Okay, can we get.

2384
04:03:05.400 --> 04:03:05.670
Ivan: All right.

2385
04:03:07.110 --> 04:03:07.590
Alley Bean: Second.

2386
04:03:08.490 --> 04:03:09.450
Ivan: Okay, now we know.

2387
04:03:11.400 --> 04:03:21.540
Ivan: The ones that you only have one, you know nominee go ahead and separate those doing by affirmation and then go to the canal.

2388
04:03:23.700 --> 04:03:24.240
Ivan: You can take a.

2389
04:03:24.480 --> 04:03:26.010
Ivan: Simple word formation well.

2390
04:03:26.520 --> 04:03:26.760
james murez: Because.

2391
04:03:27.330 --> 04:03:28.560
Ivan: You know they're running on a pose.

2392
04:03:29.370 --> 04:03:36.360
Daffodil Tyminski: Right so that's what i'm saying i'm actually asking for an affirmation, and all the candidates that I just mentioned, accepted Venice canals, which I was about to.

2393
04:03:36.360 --> 04:03:48.150
Daffodil Tyminski: say what I propose everyone do is just email me for Venice canals, do you want chuck rosen or Darrell do fe and I will tell it and that's who will the person will be.

2394
04:03:48.450 --> 04:03:49.380
Alley Bean: email, you know.

2395
04:03:50.010 --> 04:04:03.450
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah okay it's easiest probably VP at Venice nc.org and otherwise, for the fallen candidates i'll read them again just so we're clear silver strand cassie Harrison avoid.

2396
04:04:04.440 --> 04:04:17.910
Daffodil Tyminski: oakwood millwood Elliot turn off Oxford triangle Rita moser and East link and William would um let's take a roll call vote on that and then everyone email me there a preference as to the canals.

2397
04:04:17.910 --> 04:04:18.840
Daffodil Tyminski: Does that make sense.

2398
04:04:18.930 --> 04:04:22.890
james murez: No, it doesn't do we want to let the two people in the canals have a moment to speak.

2399
04:04:24.630 --> 04:04:26.760
Daffodil Tyminski: I don't know that they are on.

2400
04:04:28.350 --> 04:04:32.040
Ivan: Go separately TIM just get the other 10 first.

2401
04:04:33.150 --> 04:04:33.960
Ivan: Two in the canal.

2402
04:04:34.230 --> 04:04:34.680
Okay.

2403
04:04:35.970 --> 04:04:38.550
james murez: So let's take a roll call vote on.

2404
04:04:39.270 --> 04:04:40.320
Ivan: That when I suggest.

2405
04:04:40.350 --> 04:04:44.490
Ivan: You don't have to take a roll call on their scripts so if anybody poses.

2406
04:04:44.550 --> 04:04:48.330
Ivan: them Okay, and then that went by you know by affirmation.

2407
04:04:48.510 --> 04:04:55.380
james murez: Okay does anyone have pose the motion that daffodil made to.

2408
04:04:57.030 --> 04:05:00.240
james murez: A firm or to select whatever the correct word is I.

2409
04:05:00.300 --> 04:05:04.200
Daffodil Tyminski: will appoint these Members to the navy or committee and their respective areas.

2410
04:05:04.290 --> 04:05:04.710
Right.

2411
04:05:07.080 --> 04:05:12.540
james murez: Seeing no opposition it's unanimous listen, did you get that.

2412
04:05:16.140 --> 04:05:24.930
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, just if we want to move on to the next one i'll tell you the votes for the remaining two and we can come back to 11 a um you know when it.

2413
04:05:25.680 --> 04:05:29.880
james murez: starts, so now, let me just look through the attendees and first to see.

2414
04:05:31.140 --> 04:05:32.790
james murez: who's here what were the two names again.

2415
04:05:33.840 --> 04:05:34.890
Daffodil Tyminski: Carol do fe.

2416
04:05:35.970 --> 04:05:37.110
Daffodil Tyminski: or check rosen.

2417
04:05:38.580 --> 04:05:42.540
Daffodil Tyminski: And I don't see that one of them they're both they both.

2418
04:05:45.240 --> 04:05:49.410
james murez: Okay, and they'll probably both participate okay great.

2419
04:05:49.560 --> 04:05:51.510
Daffodil Tyminski: Both been longtime participants that are very.

2420
04:05:51.510 --> 04:05:52.140
Daffodil Tyminski: familiar with it.

2421
04:05:52.770 --> 04:05:53.670
james murez: Okay, very good.

2422
04:05:55.110 --> 04:05:55.350
james murez: So.

2423
04:05:56.760 --> 04:05:58.050
Ivan: To speak with something.

2424
04:05:58.320 --> 04:06:00.330
Ivan: Ivan you gotta stop interrupting.

2425
04:06:00.330 --> 04:06:01.530
james murez: Okay, please.

2426
04:06:02.370 --> 04:06:03.300
Ivan: Go sorry.

2427
04:06:03.870 --> 04:06:11.910
james murez: Everybody needs to Nelson to VP at Venice nc.org which one of those two candidates, you would like to see.

2428
04:06:12.000 --> 04:06:16.590
melissa diner: I also agree, though, like give them if they're here, give them a moment to speak.

2429
04:06:16.770 --> 04:06:18.780
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah, as I said, they are not here.

2430
04:06:19.050 --> 04:06:19.710
james murez: yeah they're not here.

2431
04:06:43.590 --> 04:06:48.870
Alley Bean: i'm Jim I just have a question did did daffodils say somebody was already on for silver triangle.

2432
04:06:50.910 --> 04:06:52.140
james murez: daffodil can you answer that.

2433
04:06:52.350 --> 04:06:54.840
Daffodil Tyminski: um yes for silver triangle.

2434
04:06:55.620 --> 04:07:01.890
Alley Bean: As truck rolls and it's from there, so I just thought, maybe he could position but but someone else was already there.

2435
04:07:02.610 --> 04:07:06.420
Daffodil Tyminski: it's not that song was already there, but he actually checked off in his canals.

2436
04:07:08.160 --> 04:07:13.020
Daffodil Tyminski: And I don't know whether he recently moved, but I sort of took people at their word.

2437
04:07:13.110 --> 04:07:14.460
Daffodil Tyminski: For it where they applied.

2438
04:07:14.940 --> 04:07:16.290
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay um.

2439
04:07:18.090 --> 04:07:19.500
Alley Bean: I did reality is.

2440
04:07:19.560 --> 04:07:21.750
Alley Bean: versus one stone but someone else's already there.

2441
04:07:22.320 --> 04:07:23.460
Alley Bean: Okay okay.

2442
04:07:23.730 --> 04:07:25.500
james murez: yeah, the reality is go ahead, no.

2443
04:07:25.530 --> 04:07:26.160
Daffodil Tyminski: No it's okay.

2444
04:07:26.280 --> 04:07:27.390
Daffodil Tyminski: it's all right, let me, let me.

2445
04:07:29.580 --> 04:07:30.570
james murez: i'll say it, for her.

2446
04:07:30.630 --> 04:07:33.360
james murez: If there's other people that want to participate.

2447
04:07:33.570 --> 04:07:43.290
Daffodil Tyminski: The seed has some value we will cover this i'll get to it okay let's just kill i'm trying to keep it clean and let's keep going we'll go on to the next item, and i'll come back with a report on this.

2448
04:07:43.440 --> 04:07:49.770
james murez: With a vote okay so we're done with that and she'll come back with what the outcome of the boat buzz.

2449
04:07:51.150 --> 04:08:01.140
james murez: Let me go back to sharing screens OK now we're on to 12 new business now Melissa would like us to take these three items 12 a.

2450
04:08:02.700 --> 04:08:04.410
james murez: Housing to homeless individuals camping.

2451
04:08:04.410 --> 04:08:07.620
james murez: Within 500 feet of school thousand foot radius homeless shelter.

2452
04:08:08.880 --> 04:08:10.500
james murez: Post by Helen fallon.

2453
04:08:12.390 --> 04:08:13.230
which has to do with.

2454
04:08:15.720 --> 04:08:26.190
james murez: And the approval of these two mission statements, one is for the discussion forum and the other one is for the ad hoc.

2455
04:08:26.430 --> 04:08:31.770
melissa diner: homework and keep in mind, we have two more items that were pulled from consent, after this.

2456
04:08:31.920 --> 04:08:33.390
melissa diner: Correct just want to say that.

2457
04:08:33.690 --> 04:08:33.930
melissa diner: If.

2458
04:08:34.020 --> 04:08:36.180
melissa diner: Allah wants to sell seconded i'm happy.

2459
04:08:36.180 --> 04:08:38.700
melissa diner: to entertain that or whoever.

2460
04:08:39.780 --> 04:08:43.920
james murez: So, Melissa made the motion that we combine those three items and take them all, at one time.

2461
04:08:45.090 --> 04:08:46.200
james murez: Do we have a second.

2462
04:08:46.410 --> 04:08:49.050
Alley Bean: i'm confused as to why they're so different I mean.

2463
04:08:52.470 --> 04:08:53.610
Alix Gucovsky: i'll second at gym.

2464
04:08:53.640 --> 04:08:54.180
Alley Bean: So we can.

2465
04:08:54.750 --> 04:08:56.670
Ivan: pass our gym.

2466
04:08:56.850 --> 04:09:01.680
james murez: So Alexis second to Now let me have Iran Ivan interrupt us and.

2467
04:09:01.710 --> 04:09:03.240
Ivan: figure out what sorry.

2468
04:09:05.250 --> 04:09:21.090
Ivan: Are are wrong motions you don't the board does not approve mission statements and comma proves a mission statement and these motions should be written the Venice neighborhood Council board approved.

2469
04:09:22.830 --> 04:09:31.920
Ivan: This committee with the mission statement as the provide come to you don't approve mission statements you create the committee.

2470
04:09:32.190 --> 04:09:32.670
Okay.

2471
04:09:33.810 --> 04:09:34.500
Ivan: folks wrong.

2472
04:09:34.770 --> 04:09:40.140
melissa diner: So, would you would you entertain that friendly amendment that we're making these committees.

2473
04:09:42.000 --> 04:09:53.730
james murez: Melissa excuse me, this is not an amendment, this is just we're going to correct the agenda the way it's written and we're going to approve the word going to be the board's going to be approving the creation of these.

2474
04:09:55.560 --> 04:09:56.160
james murez: committees.

2475
04:09:57.360 --> 04:10:07.830
james murez: With these following mission statements and we'll get the we can get the exact wording back out of the video later the time now is 1105 we can fast forward to this point it'll be right there.

2476
04:10:08.670 --> 04:10:09.270
melissa diner: clerical.

2477
04:10:09.450 --> 04:10:10.380
melissa diner: So we can leave.

2478
04:10:10.950 --> 04:10:12.840
james murez: It strictly clerical Thank you great.

2479
04:10:12.900 --> 04:10:13.620
perfect.

2480
04:10:15.150 --> 04:10:17.940
james murez: Now I believe alley did I hear you second.

2481
04:10:18.330 --> 04:10:19.470
melissa diner: No leaks.

2482
04:10:19.530 --> 04:10:22.350
james murez: leaks leaks second did combining the three.

2483
04:10:23.460 --> 04:10:30.990
james murez: So now unless somebody has an issue with that about questioning it let's take public comment on those three.

2484
04:10:31.950 --> 04:10:43.980
Daffodil Tyminski: and very quickly if i'm sorry to interrupt, but I have, if you have an email me, could you email me i'm waiting on emails from Bruno was clay Mike bravo Andrea.

2485
04:10:45.300 --> 04:10:47.010
Daffodil Tyminski: And I believe Jason sugars.

2486
04:10:48.840 --> 04:10:55.170
james murez: Thank you for that Thank you keep keep us informed interrupt as much as necessary let's get that vote out of the way.

2487
04:10:57.000 --> 04:10:58.710
james murez: If you sent it one send it again.

2488
04:11:00.810 --> 04:11:10.230
james murez: Okay um people wanted to to raise their hands about combining these three items it's strictly about combining them.

2489
04:11:12.780 --> 04:11:16.110
james murez: Where all of the hands, it says her so I have to scroll up here hold on.

2490
04:11:17.640 --> 04:11:20.760
vicki halliday: Kim would you let cj back in that twice, he has her hand.

2491
04:11:20.760 --> 04:11:23.850
james murez: Up oh I didn't know she wasn't yes, I will thank you for sure.

2492
04:11:29.670 --> 04:11:32.010
james murez: cj are you making it back and said, promote.

2493
04:11:33.540 --> 04:11:34.950
james murez: If there you go okay good.

2494
04:11:36.540 --> 04:11:40.650
james murez: Okay let's take public comment on combining the three items.

2495
04:11:41.670 --> 04:11:42.810
james murez: Helen go ahead, please.

2496
04:11:44.460 --> 04:11:58.680
Helen Fallon: As much as I like to see you save time, you cannot combine emotions, they are individual motions and you can't just make a motion to lump them all together, you have to take each motion individually and vote on it and.

2497
04:11:59.370 --> 04:12:04.410
Helen Fallon: You know Ivan you should be weighing in on this thing would be a regular Thank you.

2498
04:12:06.600 --> 04:12:07.590
Go ahead Erica.

2499
04:12:09.450 --> 04:12:25.860
Erica Moore: yeah that's a big no and i'm a little confused as to why the person who's our Secretary has been our Secretary for five years is so unclear on so many things I would look to her as being a leader and would hope she would be following the Rules, thank you, thank you.

2500
04:12:26.790 --> 04:12:28.380
james murez: And Margaret go ahead.

2501
04:12:30.210 --> 04:12:41.730
Margaret Molloy: i'm appalled by melissa's row tonight and it's not a surprise, but it's shocking, so you know when you're shocked, but not surprised it tells you a lot about the person.

2502
04:12:42.540 --> 04:12:51.600
Margaret Molloy: And I think that Mr miras you and Melissa have worked together in the past, and you need to disclose it that's an ongoing professional relationship because.

2503
04:12:51.930 --> 04:13:00.240
Margaret Molloy: The way she's cutting into shit sounds like the way you guys maybe operate when you're working you know, on events but it's not appropriate here and.

2504
04:13:01.170 --> 04:13:10.680
Margaret Molloy: I don't know what that dynamic is but it's not it's not acceptable and it keeps happening, and these lunches cannot be combined their materially different so.

2505
04:13:12.120 --> 04:13:13.560
Margaret Molloy: Thank you, thank.

2506
04:13:13.590 --> 04:13:14.040
You.

2507
04:13:16.320 --> 04:13:17.970
james murez: have to respect each other's time.

2508
04:13:19.050 --> 04:13:20.940
james murez: let's see Erica you already spoke Lisa read.

2509
04:13:24.120 --> 04:13:35.520
Lisa Redmond: yeah I I also agree that these are all three disparate emotions and I know it's late hey we're here a stakeholders, being part of this process it's late for us to.

2510
04:13:36.030 --> 04:13:50.220
Lisa Redmond: And we're all here late mostly because of your own doing and commenting amongst yourselves and your Secretary, so I don't rush things through and appropriately keep them all separate Thank you.

2511
04:13:51.450 --> 04:13:56.400
james murez: Thank you Eric i'm not sure, did you Eric i'm unmuted you did you speak on this already.

2512
04:13:57.690 --> 04:13:58.560
Erica Moore: Yes, I did.

2513
04:13:58.710 --> 04:14:00.060
james murez: Okay, thank you, I wasn't sure.

2514
04:14:01.740 --> 04:14:02.520
james murez: um.

2515
04:14:03.750 --> 04:14:09.060
james murez: I think that's all the hands great so we made it through oh wait no down here at the bottom.

2516
04:14:10.290 --> 04:14:15.120
james murez: Why aren't they I don't get it, but okay so pat your hand is up go ahead, Pat.

2517
04:14:18.690 --> 04:14:19.620
james murez: pat you're unmuted.

2518
04:14:25.980 --> 04:14:28.170
james murez: No power okay um.

2519
04:14:30.720 --> 04:14:31.650
james murez: And puppet.

2520
04:14:34.680 --> 04:14:45.690
- Puppet: Yes, and I agree with vicki you're right it's too much bullshit tonight the whole point of pulling the concern items so there's separate little tiny motion.

2521
04:14:46.800 --> 04:15:00.990
- Puppet: If you're putting them all back into one motion then you're fucking up the whole idea and turning it into a de facto consent calendar hey that's sneaky yes, who would come up with that idea my Donna.

2522
04:15:02.340 --> 04:15:03.690
- Puppet: And who else and.

2523
04:15:03.900 --> 04:15:07.650
- Puppet: The chair of this meeting baby deposed yes.

2524
04:15:07.830 --> 04:15:15.570
- Puppet: I love that my immediately assume the Presidency and that we put the rest of the board in prison oh I suck at that.

2525
04:15:15.840 --> 04:15:16.740
- Puppet: Yes, that's right.

2526
04:15:16.770 --> 04:15:17.730
james murez: Thank you very much.

2527
04:15:19.530 --> 04:15:20.280
james murez: Thank you Papa.

2528
04:15:20.760 --> 04:15:23.370
- Puppet: Well, thank you, thank you okay.

2529
04:15:24.270 --> 04:15:30.480
james murez: So that ended public comment, and now we will take it back to the to the committee.

2530
04:15:33.360 --> 04:15:34.770
james murez: I see a few hands up.

2531
04:15:37.530 --> 04:15:39.780
james murez: I guess I can start with Freddie go ahead Freddie.

2532
04:15:40.980 --> 04:15:54.630
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Yes, hi as the agenda is written it's not label as a consent calendar so each item has to be considered individually and offered public comment time for both the public and the board.

2533
04:15:55.680 --> 04:16:06.600
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): If am your agenda also states that the time for this meeting is to end a 11 if you want to press forward, you can and take each item individually and do so.

2534
04:16:07.020 --> 04:16:19.680
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Accordingly, what's the necessary time for public comment or you can table it and have it for upcoming business for your next meeting, or have it for a special meeting, but it cannot be used as a consent calendar, since it was not written that way.

2535
04:16:21.120 --> 04:16:22.440
james murez: Okay, I wish you said that.

2536
04:16:22.440 --> 04:16:22.740
you're.

2537
04:16:23.790 --> 04:16:28.530
james murez: Good Okay, thank you Freddie I didn't see your hand up so we're going to take these three items separately.

2538
04:16:28.770 --> 04:16:33.330
melissa diner: But wait where's that written I don't want to just hear that, where is that stated.

2539
04:16:34.830 --> 04:16:38.580
james murez: we're assuming that pretty gnosis parliamentarian business.

2540
04:16:39.090 --> 04:16:42.600
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): The agenda was to work consent calendar item.

2541
04:16:43.170 --> 04:16:43.710
melissa diner: It was written.

2542
04:16:44.130 --> 04:16:54.240
melissa diner: This isn't consent we've done we've taken multiple items together in the past, many times, so I just want to understand where that's dated so we know what we're all we're following.

2543
04:16:54.570 --> 04:17:10.530
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Of course, of course, now so under the brown act for agenda items, you have to have public comment for each agenda item when you're trying to make a motion that's not existing in this agenda that's making a content item you're limiting the opportunity for public comment on those agendas.

2544
04:17:10.710 --> 04:17:19.950
melissa diner: I would actually totally disagree with that we just had public comment on all three items at once they can comment on any of the items during that time.

2545
04:17:20.280 --> 04:17:28.230
melissa diner: So, if someone else wants to chime in here I would love that, but there was no elimination of public comment it wasn't concerned at all we commented on all items.

2546
04:17:33.150 --> 04:17:35.040
james murez: Okay um i'm going to.

2547
04:17:36.330 --> 04:17:40.530
james murez: say that we have to hear all three of these separately and hopefully we can get through them quickly, because I think.

2548
04:17:40.560 --> 04:17:41.250
melissa diner: Oh no.

2549
04:17:41.490 --> 04:17:42.240
melissa diner: That is not.

2550
04:17:42.840 --> 04:17:57.690
melissa diner: just said is fundamentally not true, so I want someone else with some type of legal background or parliamentarian to chime in this was not consent, they had an opportunity to speak on all three items at once, and I want to just move on let's move on.

2551
04:17:57.930 --> 04:18:01.890
james murez: Ivan Ivan, what do you think I know we've done this before.

2552
04:18:03.900 --> 04:18:04.860
james murez: Ivan can you.

2553
04:18:04.890 --> 04:18:06.450
Ivan: yeah yeah.

2554
04:18:06.630 --> 04:18:14.430
Ivan: we've done it before, but you know and looking at it, that the homeless, item 12 a I guess.

2555
04:18:14.640 --> 04:18:14.910
yeah.

2556
04:18:15.930 --> 04:18:18.090
Ivan: it's really different from the others.

2557
04:18:18.270 --> 04:18:20.670
melissa diner: are not talking about the merits we're talking about.

2558
04:18:21.900 --> 04:18:22.620
Ivan: Excuse me.

2559
04:18:24.060 --> 04:18:24.510
james murez: Finish.

2560
04:18:24.810 --> 04:18:26.220
james murez: Let him finish most of place.

2561
04:18:26.340 --> 04:18:26.850
Ivan: All right.

2562
04:18:28.620 --> 04:18:39.030
Ivan: Though the two committee items, you can probably combine them basically the same thing with you know, two different committees, the other one we've gotten tons of email.

2563
04:18:39.780 --> 04:18:48.300
Ivan: On on this homeless item and the I don't think you can combine that with the with the committee's it's it's just totally different.

2564
04:18:49.860 --> 04:18:51.030
Ivan: So that I mean.

2565
04:18:53.070 --> 04:18:56.130
melissa diner: Okay, can we do friendly amendment for B and C, then.

2566
04:18:56.280 --> 04:18:57.210
Ivan: No such thing.

2567
04:18:57.360 --> 04:18:58.110
james murez: So why don't we.

2568
04:19:00.480 --> 04:19:02.160
james murez: Let me take control back over here.

2569
04:19:02.220 --> 04:19:04.110
james murez: Okay, thank you Ivan Thank you Freddie.

2570
04:19:04.560 --> 04:19:06.480
james murez: Okay alley stop laughing.

2571
04:19:07.980 --> 04:19:11.160
Alley Bean: We should respect you Jim this is this is unreal to me i'm sorry.

2572
04:19:12.120 --> 04:19:19.230
james murez: I agree, no, thank Thank you we're gonna we're gonna we're going to do now is, we will take the first one separately.

2573
04:19:20.160 --> 04:19:29.880
james murez: And we'll follow with what i've been suggested, I think that makes a certain amount of sense, because we all want to get through this and let's let's hear this, one that Helen wrote up here.

2574
04:19:31.740 --> 04:19:36.150
james murez: Helen go ahead let's see you can't go ahead, who wants to make this motion for Helen.

2575
04:19:37.440 --> 04:19:39.270
james murez: We need a board member to do this.

2576
04:19:42.570 --> 04:19:45.090
Alix Gucovsky: Get mentally i'll make the motion to move this along.

2577
04:19:46.290 --> 04:19:46.440
Alix Gucovsky: Now.

2578
04:19:47.520 --> 04:19:51.270
james murez: We need somebody to read the motion into the record great.

2579
04:19:51.300 --> 04:19:57.750
Alix Gucovsky: Whereas the Los Angeles City Council recently passed motion 55 a revision to Los Angeles municipal code.

2580
04:19:59.010 --> 04:20:03.690
Alix Gucovsky: which permits the city to restrict sitting sleeping lines during personal property.

2581
04:20:04.380 --> 04:20:13.320
Alix Gucovsky: or otherwise obstructing the public right of way in an area designated by Council resolution that is within up to 500 foot radius of the school and or with an up to.

2582
04:20:13.620 --> 04:20:25.170
Alix Gucovsky: 1000 foot radius of a facility opened after January 1 2018 providing shelter straight, excuse me, safe sleeping safe parking or navigation centers for persons experiencing homelessness.

2583
04:20:26.010 --> 04:20:39.150
Alix Gucovsky: Whereas this regulation was aimed at maintaining a clean and safe environment for children attending school, as well as those residing in and around describe facilities, whereas project serving the homeless in Venice which meet the description in.

2584
04:20:40.200 --> 04:20:52.830
Alix Gucovsky: include a bridge home sunset park Pacific and the cadillac hotel room key program and others have directly or indirectly, led to a massive increase in homeless encampment block sidewalks Ada violations.

2585
04:20:53.940 --> 04:21:02.940
Alix Gucovsky: unsanitary public conditions increase property and violent felonies violent felony crime as low as increased calls for service is reported by lapd and LSD.

2586
04:21:03.660 --> 04:21:15.540
Alix Gucovsky: Whereas this declining conditions his neck heavily impacted the quality of life for anyone living near the bridge home to the extent that residents and on house persons like can no longer safely utilize the area someone scroll up for me please.

2587
04:21:18.600 --> 04:21:23.790
Alix Gucovsky: Thank you there by the Venice neighborhood Council requests of all Council members of the city of Los Angeles.

2588
04:21:24.210 --> 04:21:33.030
Alix Gucovsky: And the mayor to immediately begin the process of offering housing to homeless individuals camping within 500 feet of schools and with 1000 feet radius of homeless shelters.

2589
04:21:33.450 --> 04:21:39.870
Alix Gucovsky: and thereafter direct lapd and other city agencies to begin implementation and enforcement of Los Angeles municipal code.

2590
04:21:40.890 --> 04:21:42.030
Alix Gucovsky: With all areas.

2591
04:21:42.960 --> 04:21:44.490
Alix Gucovsky: for which the dnc serves.

2592
04:21:46.320 --> 04:21:48.150
james murez: Okay, do we have a second on the motion.

2593
04:21:50.010 --> 04:21:50.730
Daffodil Tyminski: All second it.

2594
04:21:50.820 --> 04:21:51.270
Alley Bean: Like a.

2595
04:21:51.600 --> 04:21:53.160
james murez: Okay, we need one person who is a.

2596
04:21:54.210 --> 04:21:55.380
Alley Bean: Whole second it alley.

2597
04:21:55.650 --> 04:22:05.850
james murez: Okay, so Okay, so the motion was made by leaks and seconded by Alec now, I have a question is this entire thing the motion, it seems like it's a very long motion, or is it just the first paragraph.

2598
04:22:06.900 --> 04:22:09.450
james murez: He whereas is the whereas is part of the motion.

2599
04:22:09.990 --> 04:22:11.940
Alix Gucovsky: Well, Jim I just read all of it, but I think the.

2600
04:22:11.940 --> 04:22:19.680
Alix Gucovsky: motion is there by the Venice neighborhood Council busts of all Council members of the city of Los Angeles, and the mayor to immediately begin the process of.

2601
04:22:20.280 --> 04:22:32.760
Alix Gucovsky: Offering housing to homeless individuals camping within 500 feet of schools and within 1000 foot radius of homeless shelters and thereafter direct lapd and other city agencies ation blah blah blah.

2602
04:22:33.960 --> 04:22:34.380
Alix Gucovsky: I was just.

2603
04:22:34.800 --> 04:22:51.420
james murez: The list is this the motion itself is this last paragraph, there by Okay, I wanted to be clear about that and does anybody on the board have anything to say about the motion that was just read that they didn't understand.

2604
04:22:52.920 --> 04:23:04.110
james murez: Not about the merit or the context itself is just and they were twice or something about what she read that you didn't understand and she was reading I see a couple of hands up, so I.

2605
04:23:04.110 --> 04:23:06.720
Daffodil Tyminski: guess I would leave it up to Jim so people can see it.

2606
04:23:06.960 --> 04:23:14.370
james murez: yeah well I just I can't see the gallery view of hands that are up I see Andreas his hand is up, did you not understand what she read.

2607
04:23:15.690 --> 04:23:22.740
Andrea Boccaletti: I just wanted to know I mean, so this is already law right it's already logged these these distances from schools and from.

2608
04:23:22.920 --> 04:23:25.890
james murez: This law has already been passed, yes, by city council.

2609
04:23:26.160 --> 04:23:26.520
Andrea Boccaletti: Right good.

2610
04:23:27.330 --> 04:23:27.720
Okay.

2611
04:23:29.340 --> 04:23:36.060
james murez: Now let me put this back up on the screen that was suggested and then let's go to public comment.

2612
04:23:38.730 --> 04:23:43.290
james murez: So it's actually just let's see if I reduce this in size, can I get it all on one screen.

2613
04:23:45.390 --> 04:23:52.350
james murez: hang on one second is stupid screen sharing thing is across the top of my plus sign so hold on have to wait.

2614
04:23:59.640 --> 04:24:10.980
james murez: Okay now it's all on the screen and I see some hands are up Helen fallon is the last hand up she will have the last word on this motion tonight Lisa redmond go ahead, please.

2615
04:24:13.560 --> 04:24:25.080
Lisa Redmond: i'm i'm against this motion, it was rushed, with no comment, it was in committee, it is a necessary because you're basically saying hey.

2616
04:24:26.220 --> 04:24:34.440
Lisa Redmond: there's a law you're in it's already in place as Andrea pointed out right beforehand and also miss fallon always.

2617
04:24:34.980 --> 04:24:44.400
Lisa Redmond: called out people for poorly written motions, and this is it's basically saying offer that housing and then enforce it, but there's no parameters of like.

2618
04:24:45.000 --> 04:24:52.740
Lisa Redmond: What is a timeline wit, how do you How are people supposed to know if it's been offered housing or not i'm.

2619
04:24:53.730 --> 04:25:10.380
Lisa Redmond: In this and bottom line, the housing isn't even there for people, so we can't enforce something unless there's multiple housing for people, so I am against this motion because there is no housing available and we don't need to continue to criminalize people for not having a house.

2620
04:25:10.500 --> 04:25:16.230
james murez: Thank you i'm daffodil are you able to to use a timer or, should I be doing that.

2621
04:25:17.550 --> 04:25:18.990
Daffodil Tyminski: He said I just couldn't hear you.

2622
04:25:19.080 --> 04:25:19.830
Daffodil Tyminski: I am able to why.

2623
04:25:20.070 --> 04:25:21.840
james murez: Are you able to time or, should I do it.

2624
04:25:21.960 --> 04:25:22.920
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, I can time sorry.

2625
04:25:23.790 --> 04:25:24.450
james murez: that's Okay, did you.

2626
04:25:25.410 --> 04:25:27.060
Daffodil Tyminski: bring all the bases here hang on.

2627
04:25:27.270 --> 04:25:27.990
james murez: No, no that's okay.

2628
04:25:29.850 --> 04:25:33.630
Daffodil Tyminski: I believe, so I just i'm waiting on one more.

2629
04:25:33.780 --> 04:25:35.250
james murez: person, because it could be pro.

2630
04:25:35.250 --> 04:25:36.810
james murez: So a lot of problems, a lot of.

2631
04:25:36.810 --> 04:25:38.340
james murez: palm okay let's.

2632
04:25:38.910 --> 04:25:39.420
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

2633
04:25:40.110 --> 04:25:43.680
james murez: Okay pat i'm muting you go ahead, Pat.

2634
04:25:45.810 --> 04:25:55.470
Pat Raphael: Okay, so having patiently waited through all of this meeting, and it seems like as soon as we got to the things that are dealing with homelessness.

2635
04:25:55.950 --> 04:26:09.750
Pat Raphael: This is the time to kind of rush through it and just summarily past things that are going to have very negative in serious consequences in people's lives so first of all, we haven't.

2636
04:26:10.950 --> 04:26:24.330
Pat Raphael: defined what it means to offer housing, if you hear background noise, I am sitting outside this is where i've had to be to kind of take this meeting in and I I, I just wanted to.

2637
04:26:25.560 --> 04:26:31.980
Pat Raphael: Be sure that we're not just unleashing the COPs on people without any clear.

2638
04:26:33.480 --> 04:26:41.190
Pat Raphael: definition as to what it means to offer housing in what are the parameters and is there even housing available.

2639
04:26:41.730 --> 04:26:43.050
james murez: Okay, thank you, Pat.

2640
04:26:45.750 --> 04:26:49.560
james murez: i'm next speaker puppet.

2641
04:26:50.430 --> 04:26:57.570
Daffodil Tyminski: Very quickly i'm Andrea and Clark, if you want to vote email me your vote, or at least email me that you're abstaining from voting.

2642
04:26:58.140 --> 04:26:58.890
abstaining.

2643
04:27:00.630 --> 04:27:01.110
Daffodil Tyminski: Does that car.

2644
04:27:02.610 --> 04:27:03.810
james murez: park city was abstaining.

2645
04:27:04.320 --> 04:27:04.680
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

2646
04:27:05.310 --> 04:27:09.900
Andrea Boccaletti: And i'm staying too, because I can't put on people that I don't know i've heard I haven't heard anything from.

2647
04:27:10.740 --> 04:27:10.860
You.

2648
04:27:12.870 --> 04:27:15.420
james murez: Okay let's start where's my clock.

2649
04:27:16.860 --> 04:27:17.310
Daffodil Tyminski: I got it.

2650
04:27:17.640 --> 04:27:18.060
james murez: Are you sure.

2651
04:27:18.660 --> 04:27:23.280
james murez: yep okay yeah go ahead puppet you got your minute.

2652
04:27:25.440 --> 04:27:26.100
- Puppet: minute or.

2653
04:27:26.370 --> 04:27:28.380
james murez: A minute yes.

2654
04:27:28.680 --> 04:27:41.670
- Puppet: So the problem with this is now, you know how much I love these bullshit I know you do, yes, but I think we will have to agree with the radical homeless elements.

2655
04:27:41.970 --> 04:27:50.340
- Puppet: that we need a continuance because this is a little sneaky and underhanded It gives me sort of a Mike bond and feeling about it.

2656
04:27:51.540 --> 04:27:59.010
- Puppet: They should have been done in the beginning, when we had everybody here, including all of the activists, but they're not here.

2657
04:27:59.610 --> 04:28:09.240
- Puppet: Or are they well they're busy asleep dreaming of the next crack pipe that they may find on the ground there's a couple down there by the library.

2658
04:28:09.870 --> 04:28:23.790
- Puppet: So good puppet most the table this item and have it up the first item at the next meeting you turn coat yes that's why I have Horn and that's why I have furniture tail because i'm even.

2659
04:28:24.270 --> 04:28:25.440
james murez: Thank you.

2660
04:28:25.470 --> 04:28:32.760
james murez: We still have 4748 48 people online actually it's not such a small meeting at this hour of that I.

2661
04:28:33.000 --> 04:28:35.670
- Puppet: wouldn't say about that well that's still probably i'll.

2662
04:28:35.670 --> 04:28:36.270
james murez: Be quiet.

2663
04:28:37.320 --> 04:28:37.770
james murez: Okay.

2664
04:28:38.730 --> 04:28:39.960
james murez: baby boy.

2665
04:28:41.310 --> 04:28:50.430
Margaret Molloy: Margaret boy yeah i'm reading your motion it's really awful this is 12 a it says, whereas project serving the homeless in Venice with.

2666
04:28:51.150 --> 04:29:01.020
Margaret Molloy: which meet the description and 4118 including a bridge Thompson certain the cadillac and others have directly or indirectly led to massive increase of them wasn't get months.

2667
04:29:01.350 --> 04:29:12.540
Margaret Molloy: Like sidewalks Ada violations etc you all completely like ignore a pandemic, and the fact that the CDC endless la county health department said.

2668
04:29:12.930 --> 04:29:21.390
Margaret Molloy: don't move encampments and then, when there's an outbreak of covert at bridge you go nuts, but if you break up encampments and you spread.

2669
04:29:21.960 --> 04:29:28.470
Margaret Molloy: You know coven that makes you NUTS as well, so you know it seems to me like there's a bunch of haters and dentists.

2670
04:29:28.800 --> 04:29:42.270
Margaret Molloy: Who can't get their shit in a row, they can't decide what's important and what isn't accept anything related to announce people is negative, and you know that just doesn't work like you have to find.

2671
04:29:43.530 --> 04:29:46.440
Margaret Molloy: The humanity and everyone, I have to find out you guys.

2672
04:29:46.530 --> 04:29:47.490
james murez: wrap up, please.

2673
04:29:48.000 --> 04:29:51.540
Margaret Molloy: So I don't I don't like this motion at all.

2674
04:29:51.750 --> 04:29:52.350
james murez: Thank you.

2675
04:29:54.150 --> 04:29:55.560
james murez: Okay um.

2676
04:29:58.410 --> 04:30:00.330
james murez: let's see who was okay Robin.

2677
04:30:02.070 --> 04:30:02.970
james murez: Go ahead Robin.

2678
04:30:04.620 --> 04:30:19.020
Robin: hi um I would just like to see this expanded to say not just offering housing, but offering safe camping and safe parking and Jim you made the suggestion years ago that that.

2679
04:30:19.350 --> 04:30:34.200
Robin: Hundreds of acres of land near la X be used, it needs to be used immediately I would love to see that the used here safe camping safe parking with services and facilities let's be humanitarian.

2680
04:30:36.120 --> 04:30:37.290
james murez: Thank you, Robin.

2681
04:30:40.650 --> 04:30:44.760
james murez: And last speaker Helen go ahead.

2682
04:30:45.840 --> 04:30:50.010
Helen Fallon: And to clarify for Andrea the city's delaying influence implementation of.

2683
04:30:50.910 --> 04:31:00.870
Helen Fallon: By coming up with lots of excuses not prioritized schools children do not need to be traumatized on the way to schools and in fact the state guarantees a 1500 feet.

2684
04:31:01.260 --> 04:31:11.370
Helen Fallon: Say school passage to a school if they were able to move the encampments off the beach during coven then they can certainly start moving them away from schools.

2685
04:31:12.900 --> 04:31:15.420
Helen Fallon: I urge you to vote yes on this.

2686
04:31:16.170 --> 04:31:32.700
james murez: Thank you Helen I think I may have missed a couple of people whose hands were blinking on and off well i'm not sure that looks like Lisa redmond and holly haven't had a chance to speak and I don't know why zoom is jumping around, but it is.

2687
04:31:33.720 --> 04:31:38.010
Pat Raphael: OK, so this seems to have asked me to speak again have.

2688
04:31:38.400 --> 04:31:40.290
james murez: You already had a chance, thank you.

2689
04:31:43.590 --> 04:31:44.970
james murez: holly you go ahead, please.

2690
04:31:46.110 --> 04:31:48.990
Holly Tilson: I think this motion is a no brainer.

2691
04:31:50.700 --> 04:31:58.410
Holly Tilson: it's not compassionate to leave people on the street i'm a retired nurse.

2692
04:31:59.670 --> 04:32:26.070
Holly Tilson: And the city has not or the county or the state has not opened up mental health facilities, they haven't expanded rehab this waiting for people to go into these programs is not compassionate it's you need to offer housing if people don't want it, they.

2693
04:32:27.300 --> 04:32:36.960
Holly Tilson: They need to move on, we need to offer the housing there's plenty of housing, the city can do rent vouchers.

2694
04:32:39.900 --> 04:32:53.730
Holly Tilson: landlords don't have to accept those but there's plenty of housing, it may not necessarily be in Venice, but that doesn't mean there isn't housing available somewhere in La.

2695
04:32:55.830 --> 04:32:56.340
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

2696
04:32:56.670 --> 04:32:57.390
Holly Tilson: Thank you.

2697
04:32:57.660 --> 04:32:58.440
james murez: Thank you very much.

2698
04:32:59.910 --> 04:33:07.110
james murez: um and I think there was one more Lisa redmond did you get a chance to speak on this Lisa your hand was kind of jumping around.

2699
04:33:08.130 --> 04:33:10.530
Lisa Redmond: yeah I spoke and i'm still against it, thank you.

2700
04:33:10.830 --> 04:33:15.090
james murez: Thank you, sorry alright, that concludes public comment on this item.

2701
04:33:17.160 --> 04:33:20.970
james murez: let's i'm going to stop sharing, so I can see the screen um.

2702
04:33:22.500 --> 04:33:25.830
james murez: I guess, I really should be doing this with two screens on that'd be kind of cool.

2703
04:33:27.870 --> 04:33:32.760
james murez: OK, I see some hands are up i'm Clark, you want to go ahead.

2704
04:33:33.450 --> 04:33:51.150
clark brown: Yes, thank you, I agree with the objective of this motion, which is to provide housing for homeless people who are living within 500 and 1000 feet of certain facilities, the problem is that 41 point 18 of the municipal code and.

2705
04:33:52.890 --> 04:33:54.120
clark brown: print deeper in.

2706
04:33:55.290 --> 04:34:03.510
clark brown: That section says nothing at all about housing, but 41 point 18 D says is that the City Council can pass a resolution.

2707
04:34:04.800 --> 04:34:15.930
clark brown: Designating certain areas within 1000 feet or 500 feet of certain types of facilities as places for people cannot sit liar camp.

2708
04:34:17.310 --> 04:34:27.090
clark brown: Then the section further provides that if the City Council passes that resolution, the next step for the city is to post signs within those areas.

2709
04:34:27.720 --> 04:34:36.990
clark brown: Where you enter into the housing problem is it the federal courts are going to hold that even though the city council has passed the resolution that people can't i'm.

2710
04:34:37.260 --> 04:34:49.680
Nico Ruderman: Sorry, I need to interrupt I have to leave this meeting some thing just somebody just threw something at katrina's House again I have to leave if any of you have not fucking signed yes to recall this motherfucker you better do so.

2711
04:34:50.670 --> 04:34:52.200
Alley Bean: Sorry, I have to go.

2712
04:34:52.500 --> 04:34:56.520
Nico Ruderman: I have to go deal with Katrina now so if you haven't signed yet do so by.

2713
04:34:56.790 --> 04:34:57.180
jim robb: Thank you.

2714
04:34:58.530 --> 04:34:59.010
Alley Bean: honey.

2715
04:35:00.690 --> 04:35:01.140
clark brown: continue.

2716
04:35:01.740 --> 04:35:02.520
james murez: yeah go ahead.

2717
04:35:02.700 --> 04:35:10.440
clark brown: Alright warehousing arises is that if if the City Council passes a resolution under.

2718
04:35:11.880 --> 04:35:19.980
clark brown: De that people cannot sit wire camp within 1000 or 500 feet of a certain facility and the signs have been posted.

2719
04:35:20.970 --> 04:35:35.190
clark brown: The courts will not federal courts will not allow people to be evicted from those areas, unless the city can provide housing for them the housing is is a result of the fact that the federal courts will not permit enforcement.

2720
04:35:36.420 --> 04:35:38.250
clark brown: So, again, I support this.

2721
04:35:39.360 --> 04:35:56.460
clark brown: The objective here and i'd be happy to meet with the author, to revise it to accomplish where I think she wants to accomplish, which is to ask the city council or right away to pass a resolution banning people.

2722
04:35:57.960 --> 04:36:02.130
clark brown: Line sleeping or camping within 500 and 1000 feet of the.

2723
04:36:03.540 --> 04:36:05.190
clark brown: Schools, who are working, the.

2724
04:36:06.720 --> 04:36:11.310
clark brown: Facility there on sunset and Pacific bridge home that's what should be done.

2725
04:36:13.350 --> 04:36:16.230
james murez: Thank you Clark daffodil you have your hand up.

2726
04:36:18.210 --> 04:36:27.120
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I mean I i'm i'm trying to focus on the motion part of this rather than the whereas clauses, because I can see how the whereas clauses could be slightly controversial.

2727
04:36:27.540 --> 04:36:32.040
Daffodil Tyminski: But, frankly, the motion is what counts, and I think the spirit of this is trying to get.

2728
04:36:32.880 --> 04:36:47.790
Daffodil Tyminski: Our Council district to enforce what was passed it City Council because it's my understanding that what was passed at City Council wasn't really mandatory on the respective Council districts, it was up to each of the districts, to decide how to do it.

2729
04:36:49.500 --> 04:36:59.910
Daffodil Tyminski: So this may have been said already, maybe repeating, but I would support this, I think that if there's any place that we're going to protect um it's the schools.

2730
04:37:01.680 --> 04:37:07.950
james murez: Okay, thank you i'm Clark, I see your hand just went back up did you have something more dad yeah.

2731
04:37:07.980 --> 04:37:17.970
clark brown: Can I comment on what are the daffodil set a all the ordinance does is permit the City Council passed the resolution banning.

2732
04:37:18.960 --> 04:37:30.480
clark brown: sleeping in camping in certain areas that's the first step in the city council hasn't done that yet, and the reason the City Council hasn't done it for Venice is upon and hasn't asked asked the city council.

2733
04:37:31.050 --> 04:37:42.570
clark brown: To pass that resolution with respect to the schools and venison with respect to the to the bridge home once the City Council passes that and once the signs are posted The next step is to.

2734
04:37:43.050 --> 04:37:52.680
clark brown: Get housing for the people and we're in those areas because the federal courts won't permit their addiction until housing has found for them.

2735
04:37:52.860 --> 04:37:54.270
james murez: All right, you explain that Thank you.

2736
04:37:56.610 --> 04:37:57.840
james murez: Mike your hand is up.

2737
04:37:58.920 --> 04:38:00.090
Mike Bravo: yeah thanks you know.

2738
04:38:01.170 --> 04:38:04.530
Mike Bravo: Understand people's frustrations stuff but the ordinance.

2739
04:38:05.640 --> 04:38:17.490
Mike Bravo: that's it's a very disturbing ordinance Preston that says it's disturbing and you know, given the abuses by law enforcement already they haven't been mitigated at all and.

2740
04:38:19.050 --> 04:38:24.390
Mike Bravo: there's like like friends of theirs authorize city employee that's not even like that doesn't say lapd police officer.

2741
04:38:24.990 --> 04:38:39.750
Mike Bravo: authorize net and play could be any anybody or authorized by the city no but I don't know it's just all know it's a very disturbing motion, so I can support a be a be a part of any kind of Muslims going to support that Thank you okay.

2742
04:38:40.620 --> 04:38:42.660
james murez: i'm definitely your hand what backup.

2743
04:38:47.820 --> 04:38:49.620
Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry, I don't want to prolong the conversation that's fine.

2744
04:38:50.910 --> 04:39:00.690
james murez: Okay, so we've heard public comment we've heard the comments from the committee or from the board, excuse me we're not a committee, where the org i'm just late.

2745
04:39:02.310 --> 04:39:03.510
james murez: let's take a boat Melissa.

2746
04:39:04.080 --> 04:39:05.700
james murez: them yes.

2747
04:39:06.090 --> 04:39:06.660
melissa diner: that's it oh.

2748
04:39:07.170 --> 04:39:09.210
melissa diner: Yes, I vote yes Andrea.

2749
04:39:09.870 --> 04:39:10.440
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

2750
04:39:11.340 --> 04:39:12.030
I leaks.

2751
04:39:15.960 --> 04:39:17.070
Alix Gucovsky: Sorry, yes.

2752
04:39:17.970 --> 04:39:18.480
melissa diner: see my.

2753
04:39:20.190 --> 04:39:20.670
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

2754
04:39:21.330 --> 04:39:22.680
Alley Bean: Ali yes.

2755
04:39:23.040 --> 04:39:24.360
Chie Lunn: hi yes.

2756
04:39:24.570 --> 04:39:26.190
CJ Cole: DJ yes.

2757
04:39:26.280 --> 04:39:27.030
melissa diner: Like bravo.

2758
04:39:27.420 --> 04:39:27.750
know.

2759
04:39:29.730 --> 04:39:30.450
melissa diner: Those would say.

2760
04:39:32.190 --> 04:39:32.760
ElizabethClay: Yes.

2761
04:39:35.220 --> 04:39:35.520
melissa diner: So.

2762
04:39:39.780 --> 04:39:43.230
james murez: I think she left she said something about leaving a little other.

2763
04:39:44.550 --> 04:39:45.390
melissa diner: All of their Fries.

2764
04:39:45.870 --> 04:39:46.380
Yes.

2765
04:39:47.970 --> 04:39:50.370
melissa diner: Free so sorry James rob.

2766
04:39:51.180 --> 04:39:51.720
Yes.

2767
04:39:53.760 --> 04:39:54.210
clark brown: Though.

2768
04:39:56.850 --> 04:39:57.750
melissa diner: Robert to it, oh.

2769
04:39:58.380 --> 04:39:58.950
Yes.

2770
04:40:00.480 --> 04:40:00.960
melissa diner: or no.

2771
04:40:01.350 --> 04:40:03.210
melissa diner: Yes, Jason.

2772
04:40:03.990 --> 04:40:04.380
No.

2773
04:40:06.870 --> 04:40:08.190
melissa diner: NICO leftist.

2774
04:40:09.450 --> 04:40:11.490
vicki halliday: Melissa vicki would you like my boat.

2775
04:40:12.030 --> 04:40:14.730
vicki halliday: Yes, thank you, yes.

2776
04:40:15.210 --> 04:40:18.270
melissa diner: Oh sorry I have you as yeah so thank you for clarifying.

2777
04:40:25.650 --> 04:40:27.630
melissa diner: So 16 three zero.

2778
04:40:38.460 --> 04:40:39.240
melissa diner: Are we moving on.

2779
04:40:39.930 --> 04:40:41.760
james murez: yeah I was just counting how many people.

2780
04:40:42.870 --> 04:40:44.670
james murez: We have 18 people does that sound right.

2781
04:40:46.350 --> 04:40:47.220
melissa diner: Does that include you.

2782
04:40:48.570 --> 04:40:50.820
james murez: might think, so let me just double check.

2783
04:40:52.410 --> 04:40:54.630
james murez: That says we have 19 panelists who else.

2784
04:40:54.690 --> 04:40:56.580
Daffodil Tyminski: That is correct, of soledad just laughs.

2785
04:40:57.390 --> 04:41:02.190
james murez: yeah I think one of the panelists at this thing is listing is Ivan So yes.

2786
04:41:03.660 --> 04:41:06.810
james murez: 1840s 18 board members are here yeah.

2787
04:41:06.870 --> 04:41:10.860
melissa diner: And NICO last so might be 15 but.

2788
04:41:12.540 --> 04:41:12.960
melissa diner: hey go.

2789
04:41:14.340 --> 04:41:15.390
james murez: Did you find eating.

2790
04:41:17.700 --> 04:41:18.180
james murez: Melissa.

2791
04:41:18.630 --> 04:41:20.610
melissa diner: yeah Okay, thank you.

2792
04:41:20.880 --> 04:41:23.520
james murez: um Okay, so now we have these other two.

2793
04:41:24.600 --> 04:41:27.930
james murez: items, if I can figure out how to share my screen here we go.

2794
04:41:31.680 --> 04:41:36.690
james murez: We have these two mission statements that were incorrectly written which we went to earlier.

2795
04:41:37.830 --> 04:41:39.390
james murez: All we're doing is.

2796
04:41:41.910 --> 04:41:47.820
james murez: proving the creation of them with the following statements and we're going to group the two of them together.

2797
04:41:49.800 --> 04:41:52.170
melissa diner: Do I hear a been the creation of the committee's.

2798
04:41:52.320 --> 04:41:58.890
james murez: For create the creation of the committee, where we're proving the creation of the committee with the following mission statements.

2799
04:42:01.110 --> 04:42:01.980
james murez: that's the motion.

2800
04:42:03.000 --> 04:42:03.330
clark brown: I can.

2801
04:42:04.740 --> 04:42:08.820
james murez: So somebody has to make that motion I read it, but somebody else can make the motion.

2802
04:42:09.000 --> 04:42:09.840
clark brown: I make the motion.

2803
04:42:10.410 --> 04:42:10.950
james murez: Who is that.

2804
04:42:11.220 --> 04:42:12.870
james murez: Clark Okay, thank you.

2805
04:42:12.900 --> 04:42:19.770
clark brown: Make the motion to approve, but to consolidate 12 being 12 see conform those committees.

2806
04:42:19.800 --> 04:42:24.060
clark brown: Having mission statements that are described in both being dropsy Thank you.

2807
04:42:24.210 --> 04:42:25.110
jim robb: And I forgot get it.

2808
04:42:26.070 --> 04:42:27.090
Alix Gucovsky: back into Jim.

2809
04:42:28.650 --> 04:42:32.700
james murez: Jim Jim rob seconded Thank you okay i'm.

2810
04:42:34.320 --> 04:42:36.930
Alley Bean: Just one question for clarity point of order.

2811
04:42:37.830 --> 04:42:43.800
Alley Bean: Yes, i'm just in the homeless committee or there is our co chairs, or is it just.

2812
04:42:44.070 --> 04:42:46.410
james murez: That would be that would be up to the Chair.

2813
04:42:46.950 --> 04:42:48.870
Alley Bean: So this is where we are now.

2814
04:42:48.930 --> 04:43:00.420
james murez: So I end up I appoint in ad hoc committees, the President appoints the chair and then the Chair decides who the members of the committee are going to be.

2815
04:43:01.140 --> 04:43:04.170
Alley Bean: But I mean is Lisa redmond the Chair now or is.

2816
04:43:04.890 --> 04:43:07.230
Alley Bean: Let me repeat myself i'm so confused.

2817
04:43:07.260 --> 04:43:08.160
Alley Bean: Okay, thank you.

2818
04:43:08.340 --> 04:43:12.030
james murez: there's two different types of committees, there are standing committees.

2819
04:43:12.420 --> 04:43:14.460
james murez: And there are ad hoc committees.

2820
04:43:14.550 --> 04:43:19.140
james murez: Right standing committees are those which are defined in our bylaws.

2821
04:43:19.320 --> 04:43:23.340
james murez: Right and the bylaws dictate how those committees are for.

2822
04:43:23.370 --> 04:43:26.250
Alley Bean: For right i'm just asking about the homeless committee.

2823
04:43:26.370 --> 04:43:31.050
james murez: ad hoc committees which the homeless committee is an ad hoc committee.

2824
04:43:31.140 --> 04:43:31.830
Alley Bean: Yes.

2825
04:43:32.010 --> 04:43:34.170
james murez: The President me.

2826
04:43:34.500 --> 04:43:34.890
Alley Bean: uh huh.

2827
04:43:35.370 --> 04:43:38.310
james murez: appoints who the Chair is going to be.

2828
04:43:38.760 --> 04:43:40.230
Alley Bean: And, have you done that yet or not.

2829
04:43:40.440 --> 04:43:41.910
james murez: know the we don't have a committee.

2830
04:43:42.540 --> 04:43:42.930
Alley Bean: Okay.

2831
04:43:42.960 --> 04:43:46.170
james murez: Okay that's all I want to know, so the process is.

2832
04:43:46.740 --> 04:44:09.390
james murez: Add calm approves the mission statement and puts the item on the agenda for the board more than approves or disapproves the creation of the committee with the mission statement that the Ad COM committee previously approved and that's what's before us today okay.

2833
04:44:10.530 --> 04:44:10.830
james murez: Okay.

2834
04:44:12.000 --> 04:44:12.780
james murez: Having said that.

2835
04:44:15.330 --> 04:44:19.170
james murez: i'm Okay, I only we put your hand down so.

2836
04:44:19.980 --> 04:44:31.650
james murez: He let's take public comment on combining these two and the statement to approve them i'll go ahead and unmute yourself.

2837
04:44:31.710 --> 04:44:32.520
Helen Fallon: you're just gonna.

2838
04:44:32.880 --> 04:44:41.670
Helen Fallon: Make one statement I really can't combine them, but if you choose to do so, I just want to point out that the mission statement of the homeless committee.

2839
04:44:42.030 --> 04:44:49.950
Helen Fallon: is defective because it's outside of your jurisdiction to work closely with service providers it's not within the scope of any Community on this.

2840
04:44:51.210 --> 04:44:52.320
james murez: Okay, thank you.

2841
04:44:55.140 --> 04:44:56.010
james murez: um.

2842
04:44:56.220 --> 04:45:05.970
Daffodil Tyminski: If I can interject quickly Jim and staff i'm cj I don't know if you're intending to vote on the neighborhood Committee between darryl CAFE and chuck rosen for.

2843
04:45:07.350 --> 04:45:09.150
Daffodil Tyminski: The canals but.

2844
04:45:10.440 --> 04:45:16.410
Daffodil Tyminski: If you are please send me either your vote now or abstain, so I know.

2845
04:45:18.900 --> 04:45:21.450
james murez: See Jerry there the unmute yourself cj few there.

2846
04:45:22.110 --> 04:45:23.250
CJ Cole: And I just tell you.

2847
04:45:23.520 --> 04:45:24.000
know.

2848
04:45:25.320 --> 04:45:29.280
Daffodil Tyminski: send her an email she needs to come out and keep on writing it down i'm sure everyone's going to ask.

2849
04:45:29.280 --> 04:45:31.770
Daffodil Tyminski: For it but record of email.

2850
04:45:32.040 --> 04:45:34.950
james murez: Unless you're abstaining send it to her by email.

2851
04:45:35.070 --> 04:45:37.110
CJ Cole: Okay i've got it i've got an email here.

2852
04:45:37.200 --> 04:45:39.480
james murez: Okay it's VP at Venice nc.org.

2853
04:45:41.850 --> 04:45:43.290
james murez: puppet go ahead place.

2854
04:45:45.900 --> 04:46:06.330
- Puppet: Yes, what's not combined things to them separate way check I believe my colleague just emailed two emails to the Vice President of your board i'm also there's the Chair gonna say anything or anybody from done about your board member what he just did.

2855
04:46:07.620 --> 04:46:16.740
- Puppet: I mean my bonnet is a piece a ship sign the recall, I believe that is advocating for a political position and.

2856
04:46:17.220 --> 04:46:37.410
- Puppet: Was there a motion to approve the support of the recall I, I think that that was on the agenda wasn't it oh yeah, so I think the Chair should offer Mr bond and and apology and all the little barn tonight, because I have a sneaking suspicion something's gonna happen because of that.

2857
04:46:42.030 --> 04:46:48.090
- Puppet: You just said, I think, somebody just a regularly stated somebody else was banned all eyes.

2858
04:46:48.210 --> 04:46:48.570
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

2859
04:46:50.400 --> 04:46:50.700
james murez: Okay.

2860
04:46:52.440 --> 04:46:52.800
- Puppet: ready.

2861
04:46:59.790 --> 04:47:00.930
james murez: Okay i'm.

2862
04:47:03.390 --> 04:47:04.530
james murez: holly go ahead, please.

2863
04:47:08.100 --> 04:47:17.250
Holly Tilson: I just like to comment, I think you need to ask Freddie I don't believe you can combine two separate motions and vote on them.

2864
04:47:17.670 --> 04:47:32.130
Holly Tilson: And I don't think you can vote before vote is called Members can email the secretary, or whoever they're supposed to email their vote, you have to be present in a meeting to boat.

2865
04:47:33.180 --> 04:47:33.690
Holly Tilson: Thank you.

2866
04:47:34.020 --> 04:47:37.530
james murez: Okay, I think you're getting some items mixed up but Okay, I hear you.

2867
04:47:39.750 --> 04:47:41.070
james murez: Helen go ahead, please.

2868
04:47:45.120 --> 04:47:46.380
Helen Fallon: I already spoke to this.

2869
04:47:46.890 --> 04:47:49.020
james murez: Oh alright sorry your hand was still up.

2870
04:47:50.430 --> 04:47:56.340
james murez: In so many other things going on, it gets confusing Lisa redmond go ahead, please.

2871
04:47:57.390 --> 04:48:01.620
Lisa Redmond: yeah i'm i'm also gonna say you're still combining things.

2872
04:48:02.190 --> 04:48:10.980
Lisa Redmond: In this is also delaying your meeting by people fighting this and creating separate motions to combine things we could have been through both of these boom like that.

2873
04:48:11.370 --> 04:48:16.110
Lisa Redmond: And I think people are confused because you keep talking about a separate business manner.

2874
04:48:16.800 --> 04:48:28.410
Lisa Redmond: During another separate motion, and this has been going on for multiple motions, you should just vote in public like you're supposed to to begin with that's a whole nother topic and against the brown APP Thank you.

2875
04:48:29.670 --> 04:48:30.450
james murez: Thank you.

2876
04:48:31.920 --> 04:48:32.970
james murez: and

2877
04:48:35.100 --> 04:48:38.280
james murez: pat you go ahead, you have the floor, Pat.

2878
04:48:40.230 --> 04:48:41.310
Pat Raphael: Yes, so uh.

2879
04:48:42.870 --> 04:48:51.300
Pat Raphael: I don't know if you guys are aware, I used to be on the previous homeless Committee, I was the only homeless person on that committee.

2880
04:48:52.020 --> 04:49:02.550
Pat Raphael: I took all this time to participate in this meeting, so I could raise my voice and say that we shouldn't disband this meeting, we were trying to do important work we're trying to have.

2881
04:49:03.210 --> 04:49:16.470
Pat Raphael: Important conversations, so I am encouraging us to keep this meat to keep this committee going to keep it meeting to listen to it.

2882
04:49:17.130 --> 04:49:33.720
Pat Raphael: to inform voices in the Community, through this committee, I as a homeless person, I have some time in my hand I am volunteering to continue participating in this meaning if this could be something that is useful or helpful.

2883
04:49:34.740 --> 04:49:37.260
Pat Raphael: I, like my laptop's about the.

2884
04:49:38.490 --> 04:49:40.110
Pat Raphael: You know, participate on too much.

2885
04:49:40.950 --> 04:49:42.420
Pat Raphael: what's gonna be happening just.

2886
04:49:42.450 --> 04:49:43.560
james murez: wrap up please your time.

2887
04:49:43.950 --> 04:49:47.250
Pat Raphael: This was all I wanted to kind of add to the record.

2888
04:49:49.980 --> 04:49:50.730
Thank you very much.

2889
04:49:52.380 --> 04:49:58.410
james murez: Okay um I think there was still one more here here's one more hand Paul Davis go ahead, please.

2890
04:49:59.430 --> 04:50:07.020
pauldavis: Thank you, I would simply like to speak in favor of the recharging of both of these committees and it doesn't concern me that they're being lumped together potentially.

2891
04:50:07.890 --> 04:50:09.900
james murez: Thank you very much for keeping it short.

2892
04:50:12.810 --> 04:50:15.120
james murez: Okay, so that's the end of public comment.

2893
04:50:17.580 --> 04:50:24.450
james murez: We have a couple of hands up Melissa i'm gonna let you go last but for right now let's Jim rob go ahead.

2894
04:50:25.320 --> 04:50:31.410
jim robb: yeah my question was pat on the original homeless committee and that's gone now and there's a new one.

2895
04:50:31.980 --> 04:50:33.570
jim robb: How is that working out.

2896
04:50:33.870 --> 04:50:36.030
vicki halliday: there's not a new committee yet Jim.

2897
04:50:36.990 --> 04:50:39.150
vicki halliday: coming in there's no new committee.

2898
04:50:40.020 --> 04:50:43.740
jim robb: Well, well, you have an opportunity to be on this new committee.

2899
04:50:43.890 --> 04:50:53.580
james murez: Once the new committee is formed the Chair of the new committee will have the opportunity to include anybody that the Chair wants to that's how committees work you're.

2900
04:50:53.790 --> 04:50:55.410
jim robb: doing well, hopefully Pack and get on the.

2901
04:50:55.410 --> 04:50:57.030
jim robb: He sounds like a pretty good guy.

2902
04:50:57.150 --> 04:50:57.510
Thank you.

2903
04:50:58.590 --> 04:50:59.250
james murez: Thank you, Jim.

2904
04:51:00.870 --> 04:51:02.310
james murez: cj go ahead, please.

2905
04:51:02.850 --> 04:51:20.100
CJ Cole: um yes i'm i'm really against putting both of them together, because one of them, I want to vote yes on one on one no I, so I guess i'm gonna have to vote no on both if we take the vote as one Thank you.

2906
04:51:21.000 --> 04:51:21.630
Okay.

2907
04:51:23.010 --> 04:51:28.470
james murez: Thank you um last comment, Melissa go ahead, please.

2908
04:51:30.240 --> 04:51:39.270
melissa diner: I just wanted to say, I think i'm Ivan, this is a point of information, but I think he should state for the record, who is appointing to both committees now.

2909
04:51:41.310 --> 04:51:44.790
james murez: After the committee's are formed, I will do that, yes, okay.

2910
04:51:44.940 --> 04:51:47.940
melissa diner: However, you want to do it just wanted to say how it's done.

2911
04:51:48.600 --> 04:51:49.080
melissa diner: Thank you.

2912
04:51:53.400 --> 04:51:55.410
james murez: Okay, no more hands are raised.

2913
04:51:57.960 --> 04:52:03.300
james murez: Please see, let me just look at any oh yeah Andreas you raise your hand here at last second go ahead.

2914
04:52:04.770 --> 04:52:17.160
Andrea Boccaletti: I agree we gotta stop combining these emotions because we're wasting so much time we add so much time to the meetings by this shit of combining the motions that's okay.

2915
04:52:23.580 --> 04:52:26.730
james murez: Okay um let's take about Melissa go ahead.

2916
04:52:28.170 --> 04:52:28.680
melissa diner: Jim.

2917
04:52:29.100 --> 04:52:30.030
Alley Bean: Yes, what do we.

2918
04:52:31.860 --> 04:52:33.030
james murez: Have okay it's time time out.

2919
04:52:33.210 --> 04:52:41.610
james murez: Sorry i've repeated a couple times i'll repeat it again, we are voting to approve the creation of the.

2920
04:52:42.990 --> 04:52:47.580
james murez: committee's with the mission statements, as stated.

2921
04:52:51.000 --> 04:52:51.570
james murez: you're muted.

2922
04:52:52.590 --> 04:52:55.860
james murez: valley if you're trying to speak to me your lips are moving.

2923
04:52:55.950 --> 04:52:57.990
Alley Bean: I we're combining both of these.

2924
04:52:58.140 --> 04:53:00.810
james murez: Were we are either approving or.

2925
04:53:00.810 --> 04:53:03.300
james murez: disapproving both of them, yes.

2926
04:53:03.450 --> 04:53:03.870
Oh.

2927
04:53:07.230 --> 04:53:08.730
melissa diner: Can I take a role tada.

2928
04:53:09.120 --> 04:53:09.990
james murez: Yes, please.

2929
04:53:11.070 --> 04:53:11.730
james murez: Yes.

2930
04:53:11.910 --> 04:53:12.480
melissa diner: that's it oh.

2931
04:53:12.810 --> 04:53:13.590
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

2932
04:53:14.010 --> 04:53:14.910
melissa diner: I bought yes and.

2933
04:53:22.290 --> 04:53:22.740
james murez: Here you.

2934
04:53:22.920 --> 04:53:24.870
james murez: Have staying Thank you.

2935
04:53:28.680 --> 04:53:31.260
melissa diner: Alex is has left vicki.

2936
04:53:31.650 --> 04:53:32.160
No.

2937
04:53:43.980 --> 04:53:44.280
Andrea Boccaletti: fema.

2938
04:53:44.490 --> 04:53:45.000
Sima Kostovetsky: You come.

2939
04:53:45.060 --> 04:53:46.200
Sima Kostovetsky: Can you come back to me.

2940
04:53:47.130 --> 04:53:47.550
Ali.

2941
04:53:49.800 --> 04:53:52.920
Alley Bean: I guess I abstain, I don't know I wanted to vote yes and no so.

2942
04:53:52.920 --> 04:53:56.490
Alley Bean: I don't know I guess that means I abstained, I don't know I guess.

2943
04:53:56.670 --> 04:53:58.650
Chie Lunn: By abstain.

2944
04:54:02.910 --> 04:54:04.740
jim robb: got a feeling they want to be separate.

2945
04:54:07.620 --> 04:54:08.190
melissa diner: DJ.

2946
04:54:09.090 --> 04:54:11.700
CJ Cole: I have to vote no because I don't want one of them.

2947
04:54:11.790 --> 04:54:14.670
melissa diner: guys know like no comment, when you vote.

2948
04:54:15.030 --> 04:54:15.450
No.

2949
04:54:16.680 --> 04:54:17.310
CJ Cole: No.

2950
04:54:17.760 --> 04:54:18.900
melissa diner: Thank you Mike.

2951
04:54:19.950 --> 04:54:20.460
Mike Bravo: No.

2952
04:54:27.900 --> 04:54:28.290
melissa diner: play.

2953
04:54:30.660 --> 04:54:31.470
melissa diner: she's still here.

2954
04:54:33.060 --> 04:54:33.570
melissa diner: Anyone.

2955
04:54:34.290 --> 04:54:36.630
ElizabethClay: yeah no i'm here can you hear me.

2956
04:54:36.900 --> 04:54:37.830
melissa diner: Yes, now again.

2957
04:54:38.460 --> 04:54:40.260
ElizabethClay: Sorry at that was a yes.

2958
04:54:40.620 --> 04:54:41.790
melissa diner: Thank you so Linda.

2959
04:54:43.890 --> 04:54:45.030
Daffodil Tyminski: I believe she's gone.

2960
04:54:45.150 --> 04:54:45.780
james murez: she's way.

2961
04:54:46.260 --> 04:54:46.830
melissa diner: We all.

2962
04:54:47.070 --> 04:54:48.450
Daffodil Tyminski: Make sure we still have farm.

2963
04:54:48.510 --> 04:54:49.230
james murez: yeah we do.

2964
04:54:49.380 --> 04:54:52.860
melissa diner: Yes, Oliver yes, Jim.

2965
04:54:55.080 --> 04:54:56.400
jim robb: I have to go no.

2966
04:55:02.670 --> 04:55:03.210
clark brown: Yes.

2967
04:55:06.150 --> 04:55:06.660
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: Yes.

2968
04:55:07.740 --> 04:55:08.250
melissa diner: or no.

2969
04:55:08.910 --> 04:55:11.310
melissa diner: Yes, Jason sugars.

2970
04:55:12.120 --> 04:55:12.840
i've seen.

2971
04:55:17.730 --> 04:55:18.240
melissa diner: NICO.

2972
04:55:19.950 --> 04:55:20.610
melissa diner: it's gone.

2973
04:55:31.980 --> 04:55:37.260
melissa diner: 944 notion case.

2974
04:55:39.000 --> 04:55:39.660
james murez: So.

2975
04:55:40.680 --> 04:55:41.310
james murez: Let me.

2976
04:55:44.370 --> 04:55:44.820
james murez: yeah.

2977
04:55:45.180 --> 04:55:54.930
Ivan: I can come over something Melissa when you put it in the Minutes, you need to listen to things separately with the same vote.

2978
04:55:55.440 --> 04:55:56.100
melissa diner: Plus nine.

2979
04:55:58.440 --> 04:56:07.710
Ivan: A year from now, if we want to go back and find out when certainly committees were created, we don't want it buried in the motion, it needs to be in the title two separate committee.

2980
04:56:09.210 --> 04:56:09.630
Ivan: Okay.

2981
04:56:12.180 --> 04:56:12.480
melissa diner: Great.

2982
04:56:13.260 --> 04:56:13.560
Okay.

2983
04:56:15.720 --> 04:56:15.960
james murez: So.

2984
04:56:17.520 --> 04:56:37.830
james murez: i'm going to go ahead and appoint the chairs of each of these two committees 12 B, which is the mission statement for the discussion forum will be Joe Murphy and 12 see which is the mission statement for the ad hoc homeless committee will be Joe frank Murphy, excuse me to Murphy brothers.

2985
04:56:39.480 --> 04:56:45.090
james murez: Now we have to go back to the ones that were.

2986
04:56:47.490 --> 04:56:51.540
james murez: pulled off of consent The first one is eight a.

2987
04:56:52.890 --> 04:56:54.450
i'm scrolling back there.

2988
04:56:58.230 --> 04:57:00.870
Daffodil Tyminski: And, and while we're while we're doing this gym.

2989
04:57:00.960 --> 04:57:02.310
Daffodil Tyminski: I can just announced that.

2990
04:57:02.970 --> 04:57:06.480
Daffodil Tyminski: chuck rosen was appointed by one vote a hair.

2991
04:57:07.530 --> 04:57:16.320
Daffodil Tyminski: On the neighborhood committee, but it was very, very close and I have discretion to put both Darrell and chuck on so that's what i'm going to do if you talk to either of them, I will reach out to people in the morning.

2992
04:57:17.460 --> 04:57:18.930
james murez: Okay, thank you def adult.

2993
04:57:19.290 --> 04:57:19.650
Okay.

2994
04:57:21.360 --> 04:57:26.220
james murez: So now we're back to eight a the maker of the motion.

2995
04:57:27.510 --> 04:57:38.220
james murez: which was solar dad for the committee left the meeting at 11 o'clock could I get a volunteer to read the motion, please.

2996
04:57:40.230 --> 04:57:40.950
Daffodil Tyminski: I can do that.

2997
04:57:43.530 --> 04:57:44.040
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm.

2998
04:57:45.660 --> 04:57:57.450
Daffodil Tyminski: A day upgraded storm drain screens motion the storm drains West fifth street and Venice drain out directly onto the beach, and anything entering the storm drains is not rerouted to the hyperion treatment facility.

2999
04:57:58.140 --> 04:58:07.470
Daffodil Tyminski: The result is that raw untreated and non-biodegradable sewage ends up on the beach and in the ocean, creating a public health hazard from visitors to the beach in ocean.

3000
04:58:08.310 --> 04:58:15.450
Daffodil Tyminski: The dnc request that the storm drains that are not connected to the pumping station be properly created screens and filters installed.

3001
04:58:15.840 --> 04:58:26.820
Daffodil Tyminski: In order to prevent debris including but not limited to face masks needles wipes and diapers from entering the storm drains blocking the storm drains and ending up on the beach and in the ocean.

3002
04:58:27.690 --> 04:58:40.590
Daffodil Tyminski: Furthermore, the dnc request that quote know dumping and quote no camping be painted on the curb and Jason to the storm drains in order to reduce the trash and hazardous materials being deposited on our beach and into the ocean.

3003
04:58:45.330 --> 04:58:55.080
Daffodil Tyminski: To be sent to America, our study all members of city council led or sanitation la city council, public health and safety committee Commissioners of the board of public works.

3004
04:58:55.590 --> 04:59:03.150
Daffodil Tyminski: It was recommended by the Public Health and Safety Committee 501 on September 14 2021.

3005
04:59:03.960 --> 04:59:04.170
Thanks.

3006
04:59:05.730 --> 04:59:06.990
james murez: Jim rob seconded.

3007
04:59:10.470 --> 04:59:12.600
james murez: let's say you have your hand up is that for this item.

3008
04:59:15.540 --> 04:59:15.870
melissa diner: Now.

3009
04:59:16.650 --> 04:59:17.460
james murez: Can you put it down.

3010
04:59:18.930 --> 04:59:27.120
james murez: let's take public comment on this item, now the person who pulled it off of consent, I believe was Margaret malloy.

3011
04:59:28.710 --> 04:59:30.750
james murez: market while you have your hand up go ahead.

3012
04:59:30.750 --> 04:59:33.240
Margaret Molloy: Please yeah since you guys all.

3013
04:59:34.650 --> 04:59:46.170
Margaret Molloy: Pretty detailed email that I sent in 2017 to various city official they've been chasing this issue around there's three storm drains in Venice.

3014
04:59:46.650 --> 04:59:58.650
Margaret Molloy: it's responsible for almost all of the runoff for the entire city of La was born built in the 50s the structure, so it ends mid mid sand none of it goes to the beach.

3015
04:59:59.070 --> 05:00:17.550
Margaret Molloy: And you know just storm drain filters isn't going to do the job i've already checked with the Department of Health make a State initiative to require that the sand around the mouth of the storm brains be tested there's no testing, but we all know, when there's run off in the winner.

3016
05:00:18.030 --> 05:00:40.110
Margaret Molloy: And when we're having you test an F and that's effluents that's diluted in the ocean, so you can only imagine what's happening mid sand traps no testing, no, no dilution in the ocean, so you know they have found typhoid, and all kinds of bacteria in in the ocean break while.

3017
05:00:41.700 --> 05:00:57.420
Margaret Molloy: we've got covert we've got all of these various bacteria's I think we need to take much stronger actual and suggesting a you know, a filter on one storm drain in Venice, I think we need a really comprehensive plan to say actually the guy from.

3018
05:00:58.740 --> 05:01:07.290
Margaret Molloy: Your of engineering said, give me 60 million bucks and i'll fix it, but he would never ever be engineered to end mid beach that's The bottom line.

3019
05:01:07.530 --> 05:01:09.300
Margaret Molloy: So play with Margaret this I sent.

3020
05:01:09.330 --> 05:01:10.020
Daffodil Tyminski: You make you.

3021
05:01:10.260 --> 05:01:11.100
Serious.

3022
05:01:12.180 --> 05:01:13.020
james murez: Margaret okay.

3023
05:01:13.680 --> 05:01:15.900
Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry, I sorry I let that go way over to my fault.

3024
05:01:15.900 --> 05:01:19.440
james murez: Oh that's Okay, I was watching it but letting her finish your thought.

3025
05:01:21.750 --> 05:01:23.100
james murez: You want to go ahead, please.

3026
05:01:25.020 --> 05:01:37.050
Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, i'd like to we've been working on this for a long time, basically, if you go inland a lot of drains have already got protection, the problem is that the people do not respect.

3027
05:01:37.650 --> 05:01:52.620
Yolanda Gonzalez: And what we need to do is send a big message to city council that they better watch their own districts, because I still see them dropping doing car work on the streets and then put pouring in the oil into these drinks.

3028
05:01:53.640 --> 05:02:06.510
Yolanda Gonzalez: Now the people on the West side are very respectful and are more respectful of they know where this all this good goop ends up on our ocean, but it's the people inland that keep pouring this stuff.

3029
05:02:07.020 --> 05:02:24.570
Yolanda Gonzalez: into our into the drains, but if you go a little bit East they are already putting on because we're going to be hitting this the rainy season and they are putting in coverage for those drains but people keep on doing them to pour in their junk that's my comment tonight.

3030
05:02:24.840 --> 05:02:25.350
james murez: Thank you.

3031
05:02:33.420 --> 05:02:34.800
james murez: Helen felon go ahead, please.

3032
05:02:36.450 --> 05:02:46.350
Helen Fallon: I agree that this is a starter motion there's far more work to be done, I will start someplace and we do need to put a lot of pressure on the city and.

3033
05:02:46.710 --> 05:02:57.330
Helen Fallon: This is should just be the beginning, and I hope that Margaret will work with the Public Health and Safety Committee, and we can craft a more comprehensive and even tougher motion, thank you.

3034
05:02:58.800 --> 05:02:59.610
james murez: Thank you.

3035
05:03:04.920 --> 05:03:11.190
james murez: somebody who has a telephone and being in 403.

3036
05:03:13.380 --> 05:03:18.540
1213****403: First, Amendment retaliation is not legal in the state of California, Mr chair.

3037
05:03:19.830 --> 05:03:22.350
1213****403: Now you know what you did the Mr pocket right.

3038
05:03:23.430 --> 05:03:36.030
1213****403: So i'm telling you right now telling your board right now cease and desist and allow that member of the public to resume their first amendment protected activities and stop with your first amendment retaliation.

3039
05:03:37.080 --> 05:03:55.740
1213****403: Okay, you need to apologize to Mr Mike bonnen and his staff for what you allowed to happen in this meeting there's a number that should tolerate what you allow to happen just know, and I believe a threat may have been made it gets Mr bond.

3040
05:03:56.970 --> 05:04:02.790
1213****403: So you want to retaliate against people and do that you go right ahead, Mr President.

3041
05:04:03.330 --> 05:04:10.440
1213****403: And if the rest of you guys on the board don't say something you know you're seeing something right now, this is serious stuff.

3042
05:04:11.160 --> 05:04:28.770
1213****403: don't do it, I don't care if this guy tells you don't do it man, because that is bad, you need to apologize for what the Fuck you just allowed to happen that it was absolutely uncalled for and you're going to jeopardize any type of support you're going to get because now.

3043
05:04:30.390 --> 05:04:35.970
1213****403: i'm going to oppose the recall i'm going to support like bon enough because the Fuck you just did.

3044
05:04:36.480 --> 05:04:48.240
1213****403: Just what you just did to me so i'm going to support Mike been enough because of what you just did to me, or what you just did the other stakeholders do engage a first amendment is tested retaliation.

3045
05:04:48.570 --> 05:05:00.870
1213****403: This is retaliation and it's gotta stop Thank you you're worse than anybody you're worse than anybody that you claim your butter, you are worse than everybody when you do something like that and.

3046
05:05:05.220 --> 05:05:06.600
Daffodil Tyminski: For the record, I disabled him.

3047
05:05:06.840 --> 05:05:07.200
yeah.

3048
05:05:09.090 --> 05:05:15.300
james murez: I there is nobody else that's all the public comment I wanna I want to acknowledge the last speakers comments, I think.

3049
05:05:15.720 --> 05:05:34.890
james murez: What he was referring to was the way that NICO hung up his his phone and I don't agree with the actions that are being taken against stakeholders, whether it's because of Mr bond is posting things on Twitter or whatever, but NICO should not be commenting about his.

3050
05:05:36.090 --> 05:05:47.910
james murez: Participation in his outside activities, having to do with recalling bonded in our meetings, and I think that that is wrong and we'll take it up with him after the meeting we don't need to deal with that here now but.

3051
05:05:48.810 --> 05:06:07.890
james murez: I think the gentleman that was just speaking is correct, about that this is not the place to be making political statements and everybody should be well aware of that and he did make a political statement that was incorrect that is definitely not acceptable, having said that, I believe.

3052
05:06:09.000 --> 05:06:11.310
james murez: um let's see can we take a boat on the last time.

3053
05:06:13.200 --> 05:06:15.480
melissa diner: Now we need to talk about Can I take a vote.

3054
05:06:15.930 --> 05:06:24.000
james murez: yeah let's go, we have well, we have some hands up, we have any hands up Andreas you have your hand up and Melissa you have your hand up.

3055
05:06:29.460 --> 05:06:30.600
james murez: Something just change.

3056
05:06:30.900 --> 05:06:37.950
james murez: The screen all around those hands both one way okay let's take a vote go ahead, Melissa do we know what we're voting on.

3057
05:06:39.540 --> 05:06:39.810
yeah.

3058
05:06:40.980 --> 05:06:47.610
melissa diner: yeah she read the motion, we are on item eight a that was called off ready.

3059
05:06:47.910 --> 05:06:52.140
james murez: that's correct this is storm drain motion, thank you, then yes.

3060
05:06:52.500 --> 05:06:55.560
melissa diner: basketball, yes I bought, yes, Andrea.

3061
05:06:56.010 --> 05:06:59.370
melissa diner: Yes, leaks, is not here vicki.

3062
05:07:00.240 --> 05:07:01.860
melissa diner: Yes, Sema.

3063
05:07:02.910 --> 05:07:03.450
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

3064
05:07:05.130 --> 05:07:05.610
melissa diner: Ali.

3065
05:07:05.940 --> 05:07:07.170
melissa diner: Yes, hi.

3066
05:07:07.470 --> 05:07:08.820
melissa diner: Yes, DJ.

3067
05:07:11.700 --> 05:07:13.620
melissa diner: cj so here, no.

3068
05:07:14.970 --> 05:07:17.130
melissa diner: Thank you, my brother.

3069
05:07:18.960 --> 05:07:19.590
Mike Bravo: Yes.

3070
05:07:20.250 --> 05:07:21.060
melissa diner: Also play.

3071
05:07:23.400 --> 05:07:23.970
ElizabethClay: Yes.

3072
05:07:24.780 --> 05:07:26.760
melissa diner: That is not here all of her.

3073
05:07:27.210 --> 05:07:29.520
melissa diner: Yes, James rob.

3074
05:07:34.170 --> 05:07:34.650
jim robb: Yes.

3075
05:07:36.720 --> 05:07:37.170
clark brown: Yes.

3076
05:07:38.820 --> 05:07:39.270
Robert.thibodeau@venicenc.org: Yes.

3077
05:07:41.130 --> 05:07:41.790
Bruno Hernandez: Yes.

3078
05:07:43.230 --> 05:07:43.560
Jason Sugars: Yes.

3079
05:07:44.460 --> 05:07:45.810
melissa diner: Thank you, unanimous.

3080
05:07:48.540 --> 05:07:53.760
james murez: Okay, great Let me share my screen, again, I believe, was it nine eight that was also pulled off.

3081
05:07:56.280 --> 05:08:00.360
james murez: that's what I had been my notes that was 655 press more.

3082
05:08:02.160 --> 05:08:04.590
james murez: yeah i'm ELISE is not here.

3083
05:08:06.570 --> 05:08:07.200
james murez: and

3084
05:08:15.000 --> 05:08:18.780
melissa diner: Just as a reminder, this was delayed from last meeting.

3085
05:08:19.140 --> 05:08:23.280
james murez: yeah I need somebody to read the motion and somebody to second that.

3086
05:08:24.780 --> 05:08:25.500
melissa diner: I can do that.

3087
05:08:27.630 --> 05:08:28.380
james murez: You can do one.

3088
05:08:29.460 --> 05:08:30.720
Alley Bean: i'll read it or second a bit.

3089
05:08:30.960 --> 05:08:35.010
james murez: Okay, what have you guys go for this is you can't you can do a public reading.

3090
05:08:35.280 --> 05:08:39.540
Alley Bean: All right, i'm reading it off my agenda notes, I read it off the screen.

3091
05:08:39.630 --> 05:08:40.890
james murez: You can read it off the screen.

3092
05:08:42.420 --> 05:08:45.060
Alley Bean: I don't see the case description on the screen where is that.

3093
05:08:45.090 --> 05:08:46.320
james murez: During it's not there.

3094
05:08:46.620 --> 05:08:47.850
Alley Bean: So just the motion.

3095
05:08:48.060 --> 05:08:54.030
Alley Bean: it's the motion motion the menace neighborhood Council recommends approval of the project as presented.

3096
05:08:54.810 --> 05:08:56.970
james murez: Great okay so.

3097
05:08:57.120 --> 05:08:57.810
melissa diner: Oh second.

3098
05:08:58.860 --> 05:08:59.430
james murez: One second.

3099
05:09:00.090 --> 05:09:01.440
Daffodil Tyminski: i'll second IT staff adele.

3100
05:09:01.800 --> 05:09:05.160
james murez: Thank you, that ago now, the real question is.

3101
05:09:09.180 --> 05:09:13.110
james murez: Well, I don't know how we can present the project, the leaks is gone.

3102
05:09:15.300 --> 05:09:16.830
james murez: Like who was staff on it.

3103
05:09:18.510 --> 05:09:18.780
vicki halliday: yeah.

3104
05:09:19.140 --> 05:09:20.430
james murez: Sorry, let me go back.

3105
05:09:20.520 --> 05:09:22.530
Alley Bean: To ship it ship here.

3106
05:09:22.560 --> 05:09:26.100
james murez: Ships not here either I don't believe this shop here in.

3107
05:09:32.430 --> 05:09:35.760
vicki halliday: San Diego is here, let me see applicant.

3108
05:09:36.840 --> 05:09:37.950
james murez: No, he was the applicant.

3109
05:09:40.560 --> 05:09:41.880
james murez: Is that was that correct vicki.

3110
05:09:43.020 --> 05:09:45.630
james murez: I believe so Okay, let me.

3111
05:09:46.770 --> 05:09:48.420
james murez: Let me reshare Oh, he does okay.

3112
05:09:52.050 --> 05:09:56.880
james murez: Santiago I just allowed you to speak, are you i'm unmuted you there you go.

3113
05:09:58.200 --> 05:09:59.550
james murez: Are you the applicant on this.

3114
05:10:00.180 --> 05:10:03.030
Santiago Ortiz: On the my clients are i'm a representative.

3115
05:10:03.060 --> 05:10:05.250
james murez: To like like oh hang on just one minute.

3116
05:10:07.440 --> 05:10:11.250
james murez: Let me see if I can locate that Doc limits.

3117
05:10:13.500 --> 05:10:16.050
james murez: least we have something to go by here.

3118
05:10:16.440 --> 05:10:21.840
Alley Bean: Well, you also explain why it was taken off consent and why we didn't just approve this.

3119
05:10:21.900 --> 05:10:23.400
Alley Bean: If the role was very.

3120
05:10:23.490 --> 05:10:25.050
james murez: Well we'll get to that in a.

3121
05:10:25.050 --> 05:10:30.630
james murez: minute right now we're trying we don't want to we don't want to do that, until.

3122
05:10:32.160 --> 05:10:35.070
james murez: We hear public comment because it was probably it was the public that pulled it off.

3123
05:10:35.340 --> 05:10:36.150
Alley Bean: Okay, great Thank you.

3124
05:10:38.970 --> 05:10:41.190
james murez: Okay, so I found the document, let me.

3125
05:10:42.930 --> 05:10:44.670
Daffodil Tyminski: bring this up, so people can.

3126
05:10:45.810 --> 05:10:48.240
james murez: See I guess what was being approved.

3127
05:10:54.540 --> 05:10:58.020
james murez: So here's what was being, this is the land use report that was created by chef.

3128
05:11:08.820 --> 05:11:10.050
james murez: So here's what was.

3129
05:11:11.280 --> 05:11:22.020
james murez: what's the limit allow for second story addition to approximately 805 square feet of existing 1600 square foot.

3130
05:11:54.780 --> 05:11:56.520
james murez: Okay, so that's all we can.

3131
05:12:05.070 --> 05:12:08.670
james murez: question is i've been could you mute yourself, please.

3132
05:12:14.850 --> 05:12:22.620
james murez: let's see if we have any public comment, we have to have the person that asked us to pull it off, I believe was miss malloy she's still here.

3133
05:12:25.500 --> 05:12:29.700
melissa diner: she's not here, I believe, yes, do you want to let the applicant present or no.

3134
05:12:30.240 --> 05:12:47.700
james murez: um I don't know what there is 2% we don't have any plans we only have that written statement, so we can only go by what the motion says, which was approved the project as presented and we don't really have any more detail than that.

3135
05:12:49.410 --> 05:12:54.540
james murez: i'm not sure what the applicant can add to what the report says.

3136
05:12:55.110 --> 05:12:57.840
melissa diner: Can you share his screen if he wants to share something.

3137
05:12:58.500 --> 05:13:02.250
james murez: Oh sure Santiago, do you have something that you'd like to share on your screen.

3138
05:13:03.420 --> 05:13:04.380
Santiago Ortiz: Can you guys hear me.

3139
05:13:04.680 --> 05:13:05.670
james murez: yeah we can hear you.

3140
05:13:06.150 --> 05:13:09.210
Santiago Ortiz: So I didn't clarify during the.

3141
05:13:09.570 --> 05:13:13.770
james murez: will hold on one second do you have a screen share you would like to do.

3142
05:13:14.280 --> 05:13:15.840
Santiago Ortiz: Now, particularly right now.

3143
05:13:16.080 --> 05:13:16.560
Okay.

3144
05:13:18.630 --> 05:13:32.580
Santiago Ortiz: um the the loop peck requested information regarding the two items why the Department of city planning did not.

3145
05:13:33.720 --> 05:13:48.210
Santiago Ortiz: Consider this mellow and the other item was why are we are requesting a zoning adjustment sonic administration adjust so for the mellow act during the.

3146
05:13:49.470 --> 05:13:55.110
Santiago Ortiz: presentation and the issuance of the geographical referral for.

3147
05:13:56.280 --> 05:14:12.000
Santiago Ortiz: The Department of city planning deemed not mellow because the current owners purchase the property from owner occupied not rented and they have, since not even rented any of the units they've been owner occupied.

3148
05:14:12.480 --> 05:14:19.710
Santiago Ortiz: What they felt and what we felt as we were designing the project was that it was imperative for.

3149
05:14:20.640 --> 05:14:41.640
Santiago Ortiz: A project of this nature was a two unit to remain a two unit, rather than becoming a single family residence in order to keep the units and not get rid of units, which is the spirit of the Venice Pacific plan so they did make some requests for us to basically.

3150
05:14:42.780 --> 05:14:51.240
Santiago Ortiz: Reduce I guess the outline of the roof access stare in order to.

3151
05:14:52.260 --> 05:14:59.460
Santiago Ortiz: Basically, reflect the roof lines from the main structure.

3152
05:15:00.480 --> 05:15:18.870
Santiago Ortiz: So, instead of having a flat roof, it has sloped roof, we spoke, I spoke to my clients and they thought it was a reasonable request by lubec hands, we provided to the plants are the revised plans to the Department of city planning that's all I have to say.

3153
05:15:20.310 --> 05:15:34.290
james murez: Thank you let's take public comment now we have three hands and let's get through this actually we only have two hands, excuse me this Santiago was one on pants and he had your hand up i'm Margaret malloy go ahead.

3154
05:15:35.100 --> 05:15:38.790
Margaret Molloy: Okay it's very problematic than mellow issue and.

3155
05:15:40.020 --> 05:15:48.450
Margaret Molloy: chefs notes, I mean, notably, there is nothing online and I asked about this a month ago and there's nothing been put online Jim so that's a no no.

3156
05:15:49.200 --> 05:16:03.150
Margaret Molloy: chefs chefs notes state that the developer has three or four other projects on the same street so owner occupied is a bit of a red flag when when it's a developer will multiple projects.

3157
05:16:03.270 --> 05:16:04.650
Santiago Ortiz: Excuse me, can you hear me.

3158
05:16:05.250 --> 05:16:06.960
Margaret Molloy: Excuse me don't cut in for a minute.

3159
05:16:07.020 --> 05:16:07.560
james murez: What do.

3160
05:16:08.730 --> 05:16:10.800
james murez: You got to Santiago you got to be quiet right now okay.

3161
05:16:11.190 --> 05:16:12.150
Margaret Molloy: Let me finish.

3162
05:16:12.180 --> 05:16:13.560
james murez: Please, thank you, Margaret.

3163
05:16:13.740 --> 05:16:14.970
Margaret Molloy: And I just want to say.

3164
05:16:16.110 --> 05:16:24.990
Margaret Molloy: You know it's really important that you really distinguish where there is an addition to a duplex because there's a pattern practice in Venice.

3165
05:16:25.350 --> 05:16:35.250
Margaret Molloy: of asking for an addition to a duplex but it's only two one unit and they end up being advertised a single family dwellings or SF DC with an EDU.

3166
05:16:35.760 --> 05:16:50.100
Margaret Molloy: And i'll give you five addresses three or three Windward 762 California 17 23rd avenue 665 millwood 657 millwood all got permits for remodel of a duplex.

3167
05:16:50.130 --> 05:16:50.550
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

3168
05:16:51.450 --> 05:16:52.620
Margaret Molloy: All have a certificate.

3169
05:16:52.710 --> 05:16:54.360
Daffodil Tyminski: Of occupancy for Margaret.

3170
05:16:54.630 --> 05:17:00.540
Margaret Molloy: As a remodel duplex all sold a single family dwellings, but tammy party and others.

3171
05:17:00.600 --> 05:17:01.650
james murez: Thank you very much.

3172
05:17:01.710 --> 05:17:02.190
Thanks.

3173
05:17:03.390 --> 05:17:06.930
james murez: um we had one more hand where did it go.

3174
05:17:08.820 --> 05:17:11.640
james murez: There was another hand there's a color.

3175
05:17:12.750 --> 05:17:19.020
james murez: Which i'm going to let it speak in a second, but there was another hand I guess the end came down okay.

3176
05:17:20.220 --> 05:17:21.120
james murez: i'm.

3177
05:17:22.230 --> 05:17:25.980
james murez: color ending in 403.

3178
05:17:27.330 --> 05:17:28.560
1213****403: yeah point of order.

3179
05:17:29.760 --> 05:17:41.670
1213****403: Did you did you revoke somebody right to use this meeting on zoom because somebody is trying to log back in Mr President and it's saying that they're being denied entry into the meeting, can you explain that.

3180
05:17:42.930 --> 05:17:43.290
1213****403: No.

3181
05:17:44.850 --> 05:17:54.270
1213****403: Well that's happening right now, Sir, and we have a video, but the portal that on the person's trying to login with the correct ID.

3182
05:17:55.140 --> 05:18:08.010
1213****403: And concerning to being recorded and after they do that I message appears on the screen and it says whoa whoa the hostess declined your webinar registration how'd you do that.

3183
05:18:10.110 --> 05:18:11.400
james murez: I don't know the zoom has yes.

3184
05:18:11.400 --> 05:18:20.310
1213****403: that's does does the board, though, do you guys know that on the board you guys know that right now the third denying somebody from viewing this meeting right now that you.

3185
05:18:20.580 --> 05:18:32.580
1213****403: That somebody can't see this meeting, right now, because your your board chair is retaliated against somebody first amendment rights, did you know that and I got a video of it right now I just played a video of it.

3186
05:18:34.320 --> 05:18:35.370
Daffodil Tyminski: Are you are you guys.

3187
05:18:35.850 --> 05:18:46.230
1213****403: ready guys fucking in a coma you know you've got to check the shut up because that's happening right now board members your President, right now, and you're parliamentarian, whoever is playing games with zoom.

3188
05:18:46.710 --> 05:18:51.990
1213****403: Okay, and a government meeting with government tax their funds you're doing this okay.

3189
05:18:52.260 --> 05:18:52.620
1213****403: Thank you.

3190
05:18:53.910 --> 05:18:55.650
1213****403: you've had way more than enough time.

3191
05:18:56.820 --> 05:19:00.330
1213****403: You ever heard you're going to see you you're going to see.

3192
05:19:00.720 --> 05:19:02.340
1213****403: Some points on file.

3193
05:19:02.550 --> 05:19:03.690
1213****403: you're going to say oh.

3194
05:19:04.590 --> 05:19:05.010
melissa diner: Thank you.

3195
05:19:05.580 --> 05:19:06.360
james murez: you're off topic.

3196
05:19:08.580 --> 05:19:09.060
james murez: Okay.

3197
05:19:12.150 --> 05:19:16.020
james murez: No more hands are up no okay let's.

3198
05:19:16.200 --> 05:19:20.310
1213****403: take a vote on this, I apologize to Mike bond, and you still haven't done that yet.

3199
05:19:22.320 --> 05:19:23.400
Andrea Boccaletti: He has done it.

3200
05:19:24.210 --> 05:19:24.750
Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you.

3201
05:19:26.640 --> 05:19:31.410
james murez: Okay let's take do we have any committee comment on this project.

3202
05:19:31.650 --> 05:19:32.640
Alley Bean: Have a question.

3203
05:19:32.700 --> 05:19:36.270
Alley Bean: Yes, I have a question for the for the.

3204
05:19:37.800 --> 05:19:46.920
Alley Bean: represent applicant um so when there is a previous when when there wasn't duplex and usually there's two.

3205
05:19:47.730 --> 05:20:01.320
Alley Bean: there's electricity and gas for the back unit and electricity and gas for the front unit, so I mean i'm just listening to what Margaret malloy said so my question is if you're keeping the two units, which is great are there two separate meters.

3206
05:20:02.430 --> 05:20:04.050
Alley Bean: Are you keeping the two separate meters.

3207
05:20:04.950 --> 05:20:06.180
james murez: So do you want to go ahead and.

3208
05:20:06.600 --> 05:20:12.840
Santiago Ortiz: thereby believe there are two meters, we would keep the two separate meters, of course.

3209
05:20:13.260 --> 05:20:16.440
Alley Bean: Okay, so it means two separate units that could be rented.

3210
05:20:17.970 --> 05:20:18.810
Santiago Ortiz: Correct.

3211
05:20:19.170 --> 05:20:24.420
Alley Bean: Okay, because that's very important that, I mean that makes makes it, not a single family to me.

3212
05:20:25.500 --> 05:20:39.390
Alley Bean: Correct letter with the people do I don't know what how Margaret feels about that, but that that's when I feel it's unfair is when they take away that the two separate meters that it can never be a unit again and rentable okay.

3213
05:20:39.870 --> 05:20:40.380
Okay.

3214
05:20:42.690 --> 05:20:44.220
james murez: Any other board comments.

3215
05:20:45.600 --> 05:20:46.140
Thank you.

3216
05:20:48.540 --> 05:20:50.490
james murez: know the board comments, Melissa stick about.

3217
05:20:50.850 --> 05:20:52.800
james murez: them yes.

3218
05:20:53.160 --> 05:20:56.190
melissa diner: that's it Oh yes, I bought, yes, Andrea.

3219
05:20:56.940 --> 05:20:57.270
Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you.

3220
05:20:57.780 --> 05:20:58.320
melissa diner: Thank you.

3221
05:20:58.920 --> 05:20:59.310
vicki halliday: Yes.

3222
05:20:59.970 --> 05:21:02.190
melissa diner: Can you just say yes, for the record andhra.

3223
05:21:05.040 --> 05:21:09.150
melissa diner: boy or hasn't heard you say same I didn't know yeah.

3224
05:21:09.450 --> 05:21:11.040
james murez: You said he's abstaining.

3225
05:21:11.430 --> 05:21:13.890
melissa diner: Oh abstain that's why I wanted to ensure Thank you.

3226
05:21:24.000 --> 05:21:24.210
melissa diner: You.

3227
05:21:27.810 --> 05:21:28.770
vicki halliday: ready yes.

3228
05:21:28.860 --> 05:21:31.770
melissa diner: I know sorry I just had to restate Thank you darling Sema.

3229
05:21:33.300 --> 05:21:33.870
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

3230
05:21:34.620 --> 05:21:38.100
Alley Bean: alley I think i'll upstream to thanks.

3231
05:21:44.640 --> 05:21:45.060
melissa diner: Okay.

3232
05:21:45.570 --> 05:21:46.170
Yes.

3233
05:21:50.520 --> 05:21:51.060
james murez: he's gone.

3234
05:21:55.980 --> 05:21:56.190
Mike Bravo: No.

3235
05:22:06.900 --> 05:22:07.560
ElizabethClay: Yes.

3236
05:22:07.980 --> 05:22:10.290
melissa diner: So it is gone all of.

3237
05:22:13.830 --> 05:22:14.280
jim robb: That no.

3238
05:22:17.910 --> 05:22:18.240
jim robb: No.

3239
05:22:18.960 --> 05:22:20.940
melissa diner: Thank you Clark.

3240
05:22:21.450 --> 05:22:23.100
melissa diner: Yes, Margaret.

3241
05:22:26.880 --> 05:22:27.990
melissa diner: is stupid so here.

3242
05:22:29.040 --> 05:22:29.760
james murez: goes no.

3243
05:22:30.180 --> 05:22:32.100
melissa diner: No, I don't Thank you.

3244
05:22:32.910 --> 05:22:35.790
melissa diner: Yes, Jason sugars.

3245
05:22:35.970 --> 05:22:36.330
So.

3246
05:22:50.370 --> 05:22:51.510
james murez: Could you repeat that, please.

3247
05:22:54.420 --> 05:22:55.770
james murez: Thank you motion carries.

3248
05:22:57.720 --> 05:23:10.830
james murez: So it would be 1510 12345 no yes that's correct 15 people Okay, I think we're done um let's look at the end of the mode at the end of the hold on where's my calendar my.

3249
05:23:12.210 --> 05:23:12.690
james murez: Agenda

3250
05:23:21.090 --> 05:23:22.710
This is the wrong document.

3251
05:23:24.240 --> 05:23:28.320
james murez: If you go scroll all the way down to the bottom that's a little bit too far.

3252
05:23:33.300 --> 05:23:41.910
james murez: motion to adjourn now, excuse me board announcements matters, a subject matters within the dnc jurisdiction.

3253
05:23:43.740 --> 05:23:47.910
james murez: Anybody have anything they want to say about something happening with the board word announcement.

3254
05:23:51.540 --> 05:23:55.530
james murez: hearing or seeing no hands up because I could see him when i'm sharing my screen.

3255
05:23:56.940 --> 05:23:57.870
vicki halliday: My hand is up.

3256
05:23:58.410 --> 05:24:02.400
james murez: there's two hands up, yes, I see now Andreas go ahead.

3257
05:24:05.640 --> 05:24:12.000
Andrea Boccaletti: it's something I spoke with you about briefly is this is this could be this thing be about things in the Community as well.

3258
05:24:12.960 --> 05:24:14.970
james murez: Sure go ahead is there anything about.

3259
05:24:15.120 --> 05:24:18.360
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, yes it's something that is happening with developments.

3260
05:24:18.480 --> 05:24:19.470
Andrea Boccaletti: East of Lincoln.

3261
05:24:20.130 --> 05:24:22.560
Andrea Boccaletti: and especially on my street here in pen more avenue which.

3262
05:24:22.560 --> 05:24:23.100
james murez: Is let me.

3263
05:24:23.460 --> 05:24:35.070
james murez: Let me just caution you it shouldn't be about any particular project that would be considered a potential violation of the brown act if it's a general comment about general conditions go ahead and talk about.

3264
05:24:35.130 --> 05:24:42.150
Andrea Boccaletti: This general comment happening is that buildings are being approved for certain things and they're turning into other.

3265
05:24:44.580 --> 05:24:46.170
Andrea Boccaletti: For other uses so.

3266
05:24:47.460 --> 05:24:52.020
Andrea Boccaletti: approved for two units on a lot and now it's a hostile that.

3267
05:24:53.100 --> 05:24:56.940
Andrea Boccaletti: I don't understand what's going on here, this is just total madness it's.

3268
05:24:58.560 --> 05:25:01.470
Andrea Boccaletti: Just ripping apart, this whole community so.

3269
05:25:05.520 --> 05:25:06.540
Andrea Boccaletti: that's my comment.

3270
05:25:06.900 --> 05:25:16.500
james murez: Okay, thank you yeah I think if you want to have some action taken on that maybe talk to a leaks about it, because that would be a land use issues.

3271
05:25:18.390 --> 05:25:18.600
Andrea Boccaletti: Get.

3272
05:25:19.440 --> 05:25:25.590
james murez: The neighborhood committee is also somebody that could potentially get involved in enforcement issues if there are.

3273
05:25:27.270 --> 05:25:38.400
james murez: violations and that's only my suggestion I mean you know if you want to talk to other people about how to deal with it, they may they may have some suggestions, thank you uh huh.

3274
05:25:40.110 --> 05:25:47.910
vicki halliday: Nikki go ahead i'm just a couple of things I don't think that the stakeholders in Venice elected any of us.

3275
05:25:48.780 --> 05:25:58.140
vicki halliday: to sit and spend hours on procedural things we should be prepared on people should have read the agenda.

3276
05:25:58.770 --> 05:26:14.130
vicki halliday: it's available, certainly, you know far enough in advance that you can read through and call up people that you've got questions off and I just think that these hours that we spend our extra hours that it's really crazy.

3277
05:26:15.240 --> 05:26:34.920
vicki halliday: That this is this is where it's gone it's painful and I suggest that we all get our collective acts together read a little bit question the right people ahead of time come in clearly knowing what these motions mean and that's all I got to say it just painful and.

3278
05:26:36.000 --> 05:26:41.040
vicki halliday: There are a lot of reasons for it, and I think we can correct them, and it should be done now, thanks.

3279
05:26:41.820 --> 05:26:43.260
james murez: Okay, thank you Mike go ahead.

3280
05:26:43.980 --> 05:26:50.790
Mike Bravo: yeah I just want to remind people it's a indigenous peoples day October 11 and also did a dnc was actually the first.

3281
05:26:51.210 --> 05:27:00.240
Mike Bravo: neighborhood Council to NASA unanimously passed the emotion and suggest the idea to at least the Council which Mitchell Feral letter never took up so it's want to.

3282
05:27:00.630 --> 05:27:08.820
Mike Bravo: You know, put on you know remind people of some of the good things the va see has done for equity, not many, but those are one of the things and swan that people know, thank you.

3283
05:27:09.600 --> 05:27:10.200
Okay.

3284
05:27:11.520 --> 05:27:15.750
james murez: anybody else have any comments you'd like to make, they need to raise their hand now.

3285
05:27:18.060 --> 05:27:21.780
james murez: No other comments oh let's see picking mics are still up.

3286
05:27:22.890 --> 05:27:28.500
james murez: Wait Elizabeth your hand is up it's sort of clouded in the background there's a.

3287
05:27:29.910 --> 05:27:31.680
james murez: hidden in the background, art.

3288
05:27:32.700 --> 05:27:33.960
james murez: Go ahead you gotta unmute, though.

3289
05:27:38.070 --> 05:27:54.930
ElizabethClay: yeah hand filter it's a special filter on zoom and I just wanted to really support vicki and what she said and i'm sure how other people feel too there's nothing that you're getting out of us at 1223 in the morning.

3290
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ElizabethClay: And for the people who feel that it's important to chase their personal principles or whatever, and you know just combat motions.

3291
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ElizabethClay: I don't know how you can stop it because I guess that's a freedom of speech, but the vendettas the personal vendettas that people are bringing to this fancy meeting.

3292
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ElizabethClay: are causing the good people to fall off, I mean look where you're at on on the headcount at the end of the evening it's embarrassing.

3293
05:28:27.720 --> 05:28:33.570
ElizabethClay: And you've got good people who can no longer vote because i've gone to bed, you know we actually do have day jobs.

3294
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ElizabethClay: And, most of us have to get up pretty early and we don't have the luxury of staying up till one in the morning, so.

3295
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ElizabethClay: I want something specific to come down not I don't want to just ven I I want someone to.

3296
05:28:48.810 --> 05:29:00.660
ElizabethClay: come in and have my back, and along with vicki and anyone else who feels this way that we do a hard stop on meetings, and I know that I I put my hand up to continue this meeting tonight.

3297
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ElizabethClay: To to get us across the finish line because I felt like we left some things off the agenda last time that were really important to be addressed.

3298
05:29:09.240 --> 05:29:20.340
ElizabethClay: But this this bs stuff that's coming up, I don't want to point fingers, but you know who you are you're bringing your personal missions to this meeting and it's really obvious.

3299
05:29:21.990 --> 05:29:26.460
ElizabethClay: And and that's not why you joined the dnc join the dnc I hope to.

3300
05:29:26.940 --> 05:29:36.540
ElizabethClay: Support the constituents in your area and not to try and you know, have a go at the person who's running the meeting it's hard enough I don't think any of you could do with that well.

3301
05:29:36.930 --> 05:29:48.420
ElizabethClay: I personally wouldn't want to take it on the the job that Jim has is extremely difficult and just compounded by the fact that there's so much animosity it's got a really end.

3302
05:29:48.810 --> 05:29:57.390
ElizabethClay: You really all of you have to look in the mirror and ask yourself why you bring this attitude to the meeting, why did she take this job you know.

3303
05:29:58.860 --> 05:30:04.680
ElizabethClay: i've there's four or five times tonight, where I just wanted to throw throw.

3304
05:30:05.790 --> 05:30:08.490
ElizabethClay: throw my my towel in and say it's done.

3305
05:30:09.600 --> 05:30:18.810
ElizabethClay: we're intelligent people, we could bring a lot to the meeting can't get a word in edgewise we have people, the same for people coming to.

3306
05:30:19.380 --> 05:30:26.880
ElizabethClay: see the same thing at every meeting for public comment because we can't get the actual public to come to the meeting.

3307
05:30:27.450 --> 05:30:45.480
ElizabethClay: There seems to be only four people in all of us who cares about what's going on, and I think that we need to look in the mirror and say that, where the reason that the public doesn't come to this meeting I couldn't endure this I used to walk out of the public dnc meetings so.

3308
05:30:46.560 --> 05:30:56.790
ElizabethClay: We all need to look in the mirror, we need to change the way that we we come to these meetings and we need to figure out how to represent the constituents.

3309
05:30:57.300 --> 05:31:04.920
ElizabethClay: And drop our personal vendettas and our personal agendas, because that's what's corrupting these meetings and i'll leave it on that note.

3310
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james murez: Thank you.

3311
05:31:08.550 --> 05:31:10.470
james murez: Sema your hands up.

3312
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Your gotta um yeah.

3313
05:31:15.960 --> 05:31:17.520
Sima Kostovetsky: I don't know how to follow that.

3314
05:31:18.900 --> 05:31:29.280
Sima Kostovetsky: I, I just wanted to urge everybody to try to be a little patient with one another, both on the board and Community Members when you're bitching about the board.

3315
05:31:30.120 --> 05:31:47.040
Sima Kostovetsky: um and also, we do have newer Members on the board, and there is a bit of a learning curve so just please be patient going out into the Community i'd like to kind of advocate, on behalf of that.

3316
05:31:48.600 --> 05:31:50.100
Sima Kostovetsky: So that's that Thank you.

3317
05:31:51.630 --> 05:31:52.230
james murez: Thank you.

3318
05:31:54.060 --> 05:31:55.500
james murez: Andrea do you have your hand up again.

3319
05:31:55.980 --> 05:31:59.970
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, I just wanted to add a quick thing I want to just.

3320
05:32:01.140 --> 05:32:12.360
Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you, Jim I mean I know this is a tremendous tremendous amount of work that you put in the Council as well, so I just want to throw that out there, too, and that.

3321
05:32:13.500 --> 05:32:23.820
Andrea Boccaletti: Just more people respect how much time behind the scenes and how much time this takes all of us to be on this Council, so we really need to pull together as a Community.

3322
05:32:25.770 --> 05:32:27.840
james murez: Thank you, Melissa go ahead.

3323
05:32:29.970 --> 05:32:36.210
melissa diner: I just want to get back on that qr code thing like Sema let's all get together on that.

3324
05:32:36.600 --> 05:32:48.840
james murez: yeah we can talk a second about that the trick with that that we're going to have, and I was thinking about it well, a meeting was going on as a second thing going on in my head, we want the qr code to always go to a natural.

3325
05:32:49.230 --> 05:33:01.890
james murez: homepage of some sort and that page would have to have all of the other items on it, which we're then going to be considered as the most current items, so if they hit a qr code it wouldn't necessarily go.

3326
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james murez: any place in the current website that we have today will have to make up something that would only be the current most active items and they're going to have to be grouped on a page, perhaps you know in some graphic way or something we can figure that part out but we'll have to.

3327
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james murez: Get Ahold of our.

3328
05:33:23.190 --> 05:33:28.920
james murez: service provider and then see how we can get that information organized in a way, and.

3329
05:33:29.610 --> 05:33:45.480
melissa diner: also allocate maybe some like more durable posters to get printed that we can distribute to the Community to put up in different various areas with that qr code that is constantly being updated and all those social places, you know.

3330
05:33:45.720 --> 05:33:51.630
james murez: yeah I agree when we have funding for that, I mean we can do that as part of our outreach effort, we can.

3331
05:33:51.900 --> 05:33:55.950
Sima Kostovetsky: Just discuss that at our outreach meeting so you guys are spot on.

3332
05:33:56.400 --> 05:34:04.950
melissa diner: yeah Mike you're doing a great job, by the way, I just want to say you've grown so much and you're so passionate van very proud of you.

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05:34:06.300 --> 05:34:07.020
Sima Kostovetsky: Thank you.

3334
05:34:08.220 --> 05:34:11.070
james murez: Okay, everybody, we did a good job let's adjourn this meeting.

3335
05:34:11.700 --> 05:34:14.820
jim robb: Elizabeth Thank you that was well said yeah.

3336
05:34:14.850 --> 05:34:16.740
melissa diner: Thank you, yes, we.

3337
05:34:17.460 --> 05:34:23.610
Sima Kostovetsky: just start with can we start putting the meat and potatoes at the top of the meeting you guys like.

3338
05:34:23.850 --> 05:34:35.640
Sima Kostovetsky: let's put the stuff that people want to tune in as opposed to forgive me for saying this, but like you know this 12 a should have been the number five thing on our agenda.

3339
05:34:35.940 --> 05:34:39.000
james murez: Today, we can talk more about that in add calm.

3340
05:34:40.350 --> 05:34:40.620
Alley Bean: yeah.

3341
05:34:41.070 --> 05:34:41.400
james murez: yeah.

3342
05:34:41.700 --> 05:34:43.860
Sima Kostovetsky: Thank you, the meeting night, thank you.

3343
05:34:43.950 --> 05:34:45.330
james murez: it's 1230 good night.

3344
05:34:45.600 --> 05:34:46.380
james murez: Thanks everybody.

3345
05:34:46.650 --> 05:34:47.790
james murez: Wait sorry guys thank.

3346
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