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Mike Bravo: Good evening, gentlemen.

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well.

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Andrea Boccaletti: just going to try now can you hear me now.

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james murez: Yes.

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Ivan: I can hear you.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Oh, why didn't it work on the last call okay.

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Ivan: I don't know.

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daff: hi guys.

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Andrea Boccaletti: One thing to see.

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Mike Bravo: hey.

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Mike.

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james murez: Definitely, do you want to be co host.

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daff: sure.

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james murez: I don't know that you need to be, but I guess it gives you some additional benefits.

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daff: I.

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daff: I would love to because.

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daff: we're working on may help navigate the i'm speaking a little bit.

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james murez: How do we find out we're still missing a couple of committee members section.

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daff: And there's.

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daff: No allie is on she needs to be promoted.

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james murez: Where do you see oh.

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daff: She is.

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daff: she's an attendee on the right.

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james murez: to know.

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daff: i'm.

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james murez: Your road is my left well we don't know 816 Is this how many of us are there any others let's see.

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james murez: seven of us are still need others to two people still missing.

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james murez: Melissa.

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Mike Bravo: And Jason I believe.

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Mike Bravo: yeah.

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daff: faces and triggers.

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james murez: Oh Jason.

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james murez: If somebody has jason's number, they want to text him and remind him Probably not.

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daff: But i'll send them a quick email I know he knows, we have the meeting, but I think he's had a bit of a crazy week so hold on.

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daff: So i'm just gonna say in advance they're having a party next sort of a i'm just going to meet keep myself on mute unless i'm speaking.

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james murez: I just texted Melissa I think she's on her way.

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james murez: Oh.

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daff: Honestly guys, we have a lot of participants on the phone I would go ahead and get started, and we can have people come in.

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daff: But I hate for people who want to comment oh here's Melissa.

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daff: I will promote her to panelists.

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daff: So she should be.

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daff: Okay, for whatever reason it's not working properly, but I would suggest we get started.

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daff: There she goes.

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daff: And then i'll keep an eye on the participants and if Jason pops up, we can have them come in.

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daff: Every one of you with that Jim.

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melissa diner: yeah I don't want you don't need to wait for me in the future.

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melissa diner: Anyway, is everybody here.

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daff: we're missing one we're missing Jason.

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melissa diner: So am I say.

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daff: This is a fun.

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daff: um I think i'm going to invoke executive privilege here and just let us get going to come can come in and then, when Jason comes in, he can come in, I have a feeling jace Jim trying to call Jason.

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daff: i'm so.

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melissa diner: We could go.

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daff: yeah why don't we get going um call the meeting to order.

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daff: um and let's see if we've got the list here um my bro you're here.

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Mike Bravo: Yes, yes.

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daff: very vocal it.

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Andrea Boccaletti: doesn't hear.

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daff: NICO router man.

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daff: yeah okay NICO saying he's only been.

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Nico Ruderman: there.

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daff: and Melissa diner.

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daff: and

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daff: yeah i'm here and.

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daff: Also it is here.

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daff: Okay, so James mirrors are you there.

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daff: All right, Jim isn't here at the moment and Jason sugars isn't on, so why don't we just move on and when they when they come in we'll put them in item to on the agenda is approval of outstanding administrative committee minutes.

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daff: So, most of us were not on the previous at GM so I don't think we can vote on this gym and Melissa were.

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daff: My suggestion is is that we table number two until they're back.

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daff: I don't believe anyone else here, you will be old.

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daff: Time i'm moving on to Item three announcements and public comment on items, not on the agenda and we have one hand up from someone and if anyone has anything else to say, this is the time.

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daff: um and I see two hands math God i'm going to allow you to start off.

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daff: Go ahead.

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mathGOD: appreciate it i'm the reason jim's not there, he got bubble guts over that message oh hi bravo I don't know how you keep claiming this hood rap when your paper work snitch for allowed one.

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mathGOD: I beat the case I walked it everybody's welcome to look at my YouTube filthy monks, yes smile bravo it's all good pimpin I watched your live with bullshit you're a rat rat enjoy your day.

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daff: Thanks.

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daff: lapd pippin we gotta go on mass God.

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daff: doubt you say why don't you take it for a minute.

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james murez: Oh well, Melissa doesn't seem to be here yet she said she's on her way to be here in one minute so I guess we'll just start without her at this point.

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james murez: After.

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Darryl DuFay: i'm i'm here.

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daff: I said.

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Darryl DuFay: Can you.

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say hello.

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james murez: Who would lead.

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melissa diner: gen we started without you we're moving along.

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james murez: seem to be muted now, am I unmuted yeah there we go who would like to volunteer Eminence I can't.

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james murez: Until Melissa shows up.

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james murez: Because I don't feel like we should wait any longer for her, she said she was going to be here and she's not here.

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james murez: Jim volunteers.

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daff: Jim you need to listen.

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daff: I know your audio on.

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melissa diner: Jim.

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Darryl DuFay: What did you hear.

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Darryl DuFay: This is a meeting.

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Darryl DuFay: hello, this is darryl the fake can you hear me.

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daff: Yes, yes, now give us one minute just hang on let's everyone's.

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Darryl DuFay: mind.

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daff: I hear you go ahead okay.

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james murez: How to darryl get promoted to a panelist.

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daff: I promoted in Jim I am i'm managing the attendees so that everyone can speak, we are on item three on the agenda announcements and public comment on items, not on the agenda, we will go to later approval of the outstanding minutes because you and Melissa I think need to weigh in on that.

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james murez: daffodil when people when people are did when attendees need to speak, we don't promote them to be panelists.

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james murez: I am fine, with the only unmute them.

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daff: yeah it's fine it's it's it's a Cork, of the zoom and it doesn't actually have any um.

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daff: Any significance in this context, so.

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daff: we're just trying to get public common items on the agenda.

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james murez: So starting the agenda.

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daff: We have started the agenda we call to order, and I would go back to Item one and say now James mirrors is here we're only missing Jason triggers.

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daff: We skipped item to approval the outstanding outcome minutes because you and Melissa and not yet gotten on.

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daff: And you're critical to that because you're the only TEAM members that are that, and so we just decided to move on to announcements and public comments that we could keep the meeting flowing.

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james murez: yeah so let's go back to the let's go back to the agenda, Melissa is not here yet and.

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Ivan: I don't know the cheers.

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daff: Melissa is here.

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james murez: But where is she.

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daff: She is.

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melissa diner: Here I mean.

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james murez: It has not yet been promoted to a panelist.

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Andrea Boccaletti: she's the box.

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daff: quoted the panelists.

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james murez: Is and she's showing up, why is this we're acting so strangely.

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daff: Hope there.

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daff: I will say to everyone.

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daff: There was an update zoom this week and I just know from my regular world job it's made zoom a little weird in some people, so if you do not have the most recent software update of zoom you may want to.

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daff: log out and do that, to come back in because I think it is affecting things like operationally in terms of sounds video whatever.

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james murez: yeah we just had we just had a problem in another meeting where.

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james murez: Two of the Members couldn't be heard.

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daff: If their video was working, but you know what I feel like there we've got a couple hands up let's have people make their comments we're all here, even if we're not fully functioning and then we can move on to move along agenda.

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daff: So Gerald you phase and waiting Darrell why don't you go ahead and make your comment, please everyone, take about a minute i'm not timing it separately, but everyone knows the minute is.

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Darryl DuFay: You can hear me now.

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Darryl DuFay: Yes, okay mine has to do with the zoom in terms of getting onto.

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Darryl DuFay: onto the meetings I had a problem with Luke with Luke peck and I took the, what do you call it, whatever the numbers are and everything for the webinar and it was not live on terms of your agenda.

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Darryl DuFay: And I just have had this problem again I went to your I went to the.

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Darryl DuFay: Venice neighborhood Council I went to the agenda it's showing there and I click on it and it doesn't work, the only way I got it to work is to copy it.

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Darryl DuFay: put it in an email send my email to me and click on it, and then it does work, and so, but it, but what happened and Luke pack you put in a second agenda him and the second agenda work so i'm just pointing that out to you it's nice to hear see you, etc, but.

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Darryl DuFay: I guess i'll just proceed to every time I get an agenda to split it into an email and send it to me so that I can get on to a meeting, thank you.

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daff: Alright, thanks for letting us know.

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daff: um Lisa redmond go ahead and make your comment.

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Lisa Redmond: um.

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Lisa Redmond: yeah I I actually am speaking about something on the agenda because there wasn't an issue to approve the agenda under five be item Roman numeral little Roman numeral seven it says homeless committee it's actually a housing and homelessness committee motion.

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Lisa Redmond: So it to be different from the other homeless committee motion.

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Lisa Redmond: It is a housing and homelessness committee it's two very different things.

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daff: And then also thank you.

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daff: Okay, we got it i'm.

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daff: Helen Helen go ahead and make your comment.

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Helen Fallon: yeah I want, I want to point out, I don't believe the comments from last month, or even posted on the website so I don't know how you could even vote for them.

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Helen Fallon: Even if there were people who have been there and wanted to vote and then to, I just wanted to mention that the the rate of the outreach for the neighborhood Committee and the loop tech.

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Helen Fallon: has a very confusing instructions i'm not sure how someone return something to appeal box by a certain time, that seems very, very confusing I don't know who that.

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Helen Fallon: who sent it out, but it did not make much sense, and it also meant that you assume that everyone has your access, etc, and I don't think that's very inclusive of them should be addressed, thank you.

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daff: Thank you.

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daff: i'm.

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daff: Even Eva green go ahead and make your comment.

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Eva Greene: hi i'm a couple of things.

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Eva Greene: I just wanted to say that at the last one PIC meeting that I was at.

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Eva Greene: You couldn't see many of the Members, so I could never tell if there was actually a full quorum.

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Eva Greene: Now, maybe it's with regards to the upgrade of zoom, but it is problematic in fact fightback venice's filing a lawsuit against the.

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Eva Greene: The plum committee because of that, so I advise every one of you to address that almost immediately second.

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Eva Greene: There is no politicking during the meeting that is actually agreeable offense your virtual environment should be void of any commercial advertising or political lobby.

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Eva Greene: And it should not be disruptive or distracting to the meetings at the last dmc meeting it was very disruptive a lot of people were baffled a lot of people thought that you know Mike bravo should have been.

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Eva Greene: should have been excused and not not be part of a vote that had to do with the sheriff's department, so I just want everybody to remember that you cannot politic during meetings, thank you.

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daff: Thanks so much unless we have Nick antenna cello.

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daff: I make a comment.

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Nick Antonicello: yeah I just want to make sure I put in three motions through the through the Ad Council system on Venice nc.org I just want to make sure that you guys got them and when will, when will these new committees, like the rules and selections committee actually be reorganized in the next.

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daff: I think, Jim can talk to that and that's one of the things that we're hoping to accomplish tonight so maybe as we go Jim you can address that issue.

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james murez: yeah we don't usually respond to public comment.

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daff: understood, but.

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daff: Okay, so we have old administrative committee business.

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Ivan: I have my hand up death.

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daff: Oh i'm.

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daff: So sorry go ahead.

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Ivan: Alright, so two things I had a conversation with Freddie today.

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Ivan: there's an item that he saw I don't know how many people got it, but this an item he wants to have added to the agenda.

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Ivan: We can bring it up again during new business I just wanna let you know that that has to go in there, he wants us to nominate people for the civic university that would go under new business.

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Ivan: The other thing has to do with the ad hoc committees it's something that we've it's an oversight that we've had the committee's all have to have a termination date so as we get to the mission statements i'll be bringing that up for each one the the.

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Ivan: The contacts to decide what the termination date is, and it can be no longer than a year Okay, thank you.

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daff: Thanks Ivan.

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daff: let's move on to new business.

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daff: Item five a is a motion to approve the standing committee on chairs nominations for arts ocean front walk and rules and selections jam on a take it away.

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james murez: um I think.

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melissa diner: Jim.

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james murez: yeah i'm.

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melissa diner: Mike as just just a quick reminder like we usually breeze through this pretty quick like if we just approve the agenda we're not like really getting into the merits so like.

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melissa diner: Usually, all this stuff until we get to even past like financial items is like one motion approved and then we're only like really approving one on one but we approve these in bulk usually.

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james murez: i'm not sure what it is you're referring to Melissa.

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melissa diner: Then i'll just do it by example, I would just make a motion that we approve everything on the agenda, through it.

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melissa diner: Nine a so everything through nine eight someone will second that will put on the agenda.

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james murez: don't you completely lost me more so we're still on the Ad comma job.

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melissa diner: You guys i'm on add common agenda, this is how we rock ad copy, this is what we do we're not talking about individual items.

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melissa diner: So unless someone has something they need to change we usually just approve all those items in bulk this is how i'd come goes every time unless we need to comment on specific items.

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james murez: Well, five a and five fear both things that we have to handle.

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james murez: We have to do these items before it goes before we go to the Boards agenda.

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james murez: Unless i'm mistaken.

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melissa diner: I do, what we're just approving them on the meeting, what are we doing.

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Ivan: No, no, no, these are items that add COM has to do is add come business it's not about the board agenda add COM has can nominate the chairs of standing committees, and they have to approve the mission statement that's part of the bad calm business.

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james murez: that's getting all.

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james murez: It was published on.

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james murez: So.

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james murez: We had several nominations for these committees do you have the list of them, Melissa.

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melissa diner: I do we usually don't talk about them, we just post them for the next meeting so i'll post them you don't put through the mall one by one, like do you want to do that.

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james murez: I don't know if that was the my impression was that that we had to do that, but maybe you're right maybe we don't that would be great if we don't.

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james murez: Have.

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james murez: The motion, and there was over said, talking about here is five at the motion to approve standing committee chair nominations i've been do we have to list, who, the people are for each of the committee's now.

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Ivan: I don't have anything it true gone to you.

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melissa diner: On the board agenda.

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melissa diner: Because it just came in by today, we will post them with the latest any applications on the border done all right.

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Ivan: I suggest you go ahead, read the nominations for people that nominated themselves you give them each one minute to talk if they're here and then add come close to nominate them and sends the nominations to the board, who will then approve or not approve.

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melissa diner: we've never done it that way.

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Ivan: Every we do we do it this way once every two years at the.

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Ivan: This is, according to the whiteboard and come house to nominate chairs of the Standing Committee.

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melissa diner: Call so have them raise their hand and speak if you're gonna do it that way, then, and then i'll let you know if I received their application or not, or if it was about it.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Can just quickly, can we take Darrell and Helen offers as.

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daff: Real issue with us um we do have some hands raised, though, so why don't we go to eat the green.

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Eva Greene: hi I have a comment to make, because there's a lot of chaos usually at every single tiring dnc or committee meeting and it's this is that a lot of people don't know the rules, the bylaws the standing rules.

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Eva Greene: The empower la rules, the brown act rules, etc, and saying that we've always done it this way, is a cop out i'm sorry, Melissa I, like you, but that's not enough.

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Eva Greene: It really if you could refer to what the standing rule or what the by law is.

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Eva Greene: That is appropriate, but simply saying we've always done it this way doesn't mean anything, stop the chaos, please refer to what the rule or what the state the what the law, or what empower la or what city clerk requires of you.

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Eva Greene: That way we can work it out better and we all know where we stand, but saying we've always done it this way doesn't mean anything, thank you.

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james murez: Okay, so.

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james murez: yeah I was gonna say let's get through the hands if raising their hands, this is not about public comment, this is about, if you were.

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Ivan: Okay, Jim can you read the nominations that you receive.

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james murez: i've only received two.

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james murez: Okay, but that doesn't mean that other people, maybe didn't receive others.

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melissa diner: We have a process because.

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melissa diner: There isn't a problem.

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melissa diner: Is that was put in place, anyone who wants to speak right now that put in a nomination we've asked them to raise their hand.

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melissa diner: And then I can verify.

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Ivan: Their.

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Ivan: It was announced at the board meeting that all nominations had to be submitted in advance prior to add COM.

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melissa diner: i'm aware of that, if they're here and they want me to verify it and they want to say something that's fine just have them say set have them say.

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Ivan: Something that I can lock your room.

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melissa diner: I didn't you know what there was also no rule That said, we had to have it all organized by tonight to call.

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Ivan: You, so I can move the board agenda under Presidents announcement.

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james murez: let's stop the arguing, let me just let let's get this back to some level of.

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james murez: I received actually three I just went back and searched.

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james murez: Should I lost it from.

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james murez: what's his name for the arts committee.

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daff: submit something for the arts committee.

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james murez: Bruno submitted one for the arts committee Oliver submitted one for the rules and selections can stand Mohammed, although he goes by I don't remember how to pronounce his first name i'll pallister.

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james murez: He put one in for ocean print walk I had heard conversations about other people wanting to do it, but I did not receive any other emails and i'm just going back and double checking but.

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melissa diner: you're ready for loop back now do you want me to read loop back.

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james murez: No, no loop back is not a standing committee word that's a separate hold on.

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melissa diner: Tell me, when you want me to read Luke.

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james murez: we're not there yet.

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james murez: So are any of those people in the audience any of those three people in the audience and did they want to speak at this time, they should be raising their hands.

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daff: I just say it again, who is the third person.

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james murez: Stan Muhammad.

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james murez: Who said that they received it, because you need to forward that to me they were supposed to have sent them to me.

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melissa diner: Now you need to port it to me, so I can put it in the thing copy all of us, so we can all have it, if someone got it okay.

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melissa diner: James.

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james murez: You have Jim rob okay and Jim rob was for where.

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daff: Okay, so let's yeah and I I went through i'm pretty sure we did not get any other applications for these particular committees right.

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james murez: And so let's let's just I believe now we get to close nominations for them is that correct Ivan there so we're nominating those four people for those three committees, and now we can move on.

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james murez: Let me look back to the agenda.

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Ivan: Wait a minute Jim you're not done, you have to nominate you have to approve the nominations.

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james murez: To approve the nomination, I see what you're saying okay so so I make the motion that we approve the nominations.

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Ivan: Okay, I would do ocean not over I would do a rules and selections and what an art, because the other one you have two people.

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Ivan: Are you going to nominate posted them with the board decide or nominate one here.

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Ivan: i'm okay just one make sure you know what you're doing.

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james murez: Well, I think it's I think it's fine we'll let the Board will let the board decide, I think it would probably be.

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james murez: more transparent than that because that you know that's a committee that everybody wants to be involved in and jim's done it in the past and.

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Ivan: Somebody needs to make a motion to approve the nominations of those four people.

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james murez: I just did that and definitely go.

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james murez: There okay and.

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james murez: Okay, we can take public comment on that.

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Lisa Redmond: yeah um you know, I was at that board meeting I never heard the part about nominations for these other standing committees.

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Lisa Redmond: could be given.

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Lisa Redmond: And I also kind of to I can't remember it's Helen or Eva Greens point earlier, I just think the outreach for these committees, whether neighborhood or.

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Lisa Redmond: lubick was poor, let alone that anybody could have nominated someone else for these other standing committees, I didn't know that I didn't I thought just Jim, as the President appointed standing committee.

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Lisa Redmond: or committee chair people as the ad hoc I thought that's what the bylaws said I could be wrong is the board able to make nominations from the floor.

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Lisa Redmond: Next to the.

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Lisa Redmond: other committee members.

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Ivan: No, not.

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Lisa Redmond: well.

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Lisa Redmond: didn't even really have an outreach in getting people that you know Bruno Hernandez is going to be arts person again when, for the last two years, he had one meeting it's just by default he gets to be Archer again that just doesn't seem.

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Lisa Redmond: opportunity that other people were given the opportunity or knew that they had the opportunity to stand up for it.

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CJ Cole: Okay daffodil and Jim I think you both were on more than one of my emails suggesting that I would like to be the Chair or the Co Chair of the.

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CJ Cole: Those roles and elections coming to your Rules and selections committee that does not mean I don't want to be on, I want to be one of them.

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CJ Cole: And I know that I have a discussion with Jim and daffodil I know you have been on all my emails.

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melissa diner: I got that email cj sorry for that, I mean obviously whatever happened.

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CJ Cole: marissa you are not on my list.

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james murez: yeah cj, let me just interrupt I don't want to get into a big discussion about it, but we did receive a message from you on.

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james murez: August 4 that you would like to be a chair or co chair and I just assumed that that meant that you wanted to be a Co chair if somebody else was standing up to to be it.

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james murez: No a chair, so if you if you want Okay, so what we'll do but let's keep this let's keep this civil, but we will do is, we will just amend our previous nomination and we will allow both you and all of her to go forward and we will decide at the board how's that sound yes okay yeah.

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james murez: Very good anything else.

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daff: hey thanks for going to go on and keep taking comment.

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james murez: To close, public comment at some point on the site that we can't just keep.

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daff: These are the same folks that have had their hand raised just lets everyone make their comment on this.

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james murez: MIC was last one.

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Nick Antonicello: yeah my understanding is that the President of the dnc these indirect appointment by the Chair is that true or untrue.

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Nick Antonicello: My question is, are the committee chairs of the standing committees direct appointments by the President

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james murez: Yes, yeah so okay now I heard you, by the way, you're you're very muffled it's hard to hear you if you could speak closer to your microphone it would probably be better for everyone listening, the answer to your question, the President appoints the ad hoc committee chairs the board.

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james murez: selects the standing committee chairs.

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james murez: Okay did that answer your neck.

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james murez: Yes, okay.

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Ivan: The already spoke on that.

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Eva Greene: hi, I just wanted to say that I think, with all the chaos again with regards to where this was posted where it was spoken about, because I don't recall it being spoken about the meeting, by the way.

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Eva Greene: On these committees, I think that maybe it should be delayed, I do, I think I agree with Lisa redmond a lot of people did not know that this was open, and I think that you guys should really consider that Thank you.

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james murez: So i'm going to respond to that.

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james murez: Right after the board meeting I posted the video and the transcription both of those two documents are there, and if anybody doesn't believe that that was what happened.

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james murez: wants to challenge it by all means, please do, but the audio recording portion of the video, which is there was transcribed and you can certainly do a text search if you go to the Boards web page.

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james murez: it's I believe it's under committees you click on general board and and scroll down a ways you'll see that the previous meeting was posted as a video file, along with transcription fun.

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james murez: So let's move right along.

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Eva Greene: No it's nowhere on the on the main homepage Thank you.

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james murez: Know it's not on the homepage it's not what I said.

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james murez: it's on the boards page.

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james murez: All of the committee's I mentioned this, I mentioned this at the last meeting.

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james murez: All of the recordings are going to be start are going to start being posted.

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james murez: On all of the committee pages, so if there's a meeting and there was a recording made it will be posted.

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james murez: So everybody can go and see it and so long as the transcription thing continues to work correctly, I will also post those there takes a bit of time for me to download and then we.

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james murez: repost your push them back out there, also on the YouTube channel you're all more than welcome to go and look.

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james murez: Okay let's continue to move along, so we made the motion, we have to amend the motion to include cj as the second candidate our second nomination, excuse me for the rules and selection committee.

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james murez: Definitely, do you want a second that.

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james murez: Yes, please well let's see want to take a vote.

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melissa diner: Is anyone opposed.

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james murez: you're supposed to take a roll call vote for being done on the zoom calls.

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melissa diner: or whoever might bravo.

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melissa diner: Yes, Ali.

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melissa diner: Ali been.

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melissa diner: Eco router men.

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Yes.

392
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melissa diner: I vote yes daffodil.

393
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melissa diner: Yes, Jim are you voting.

394
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Yes.

395
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melissa diner: Did I miss anyone.

396
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Andrea Boccaletti: The vocabulary yes.

397
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melissa diner: cool so unanimous no one's opposed.

398
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that's correct right.

399
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melissa diner: Jim I really need that.

400
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melissa diner: editor file.

401
00:40:18.510 --> 00:40:20.370
james murez: They were just sent to you.

402
00:40:32.490 --> 00:40:34.440
james murez: Okay, now we have.

403
00:40:35.670 --> 00:40:39.060
james murez: Several ad hoc committees.

404
00:40:40.650 --> 00:40:42.270
james murez: that we need to.

405
00:40:46.620 --> 00:40:48.060
james murez: decide what's going to happen with them.

406
00:40:50.580 --> 00:40:58.860
james murez: At this point we have mission statements, several of the mission statements don't read like a clear mission statement that was pointed out to me.

407
00:41:00.030 --> 00:41:02.760
james murez: And, and we have, I believe.

408
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:13.230
james murez: Five mission statements that all overlap with other standing committees and we're not allowed to have.

409
00:41:14.550 --> 00:41:19.980
james murez: The bylaws are very clear about having standing committees and the purpose of them so.

410
00:41:21.090 --> 00:41:29.160
james murez: i'm assuming that that when we have a standing committee that we don't want to have overlap with that committee because it just creates confusion of where things should go.

411
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:46.860
james murez: So we have to figure out how we want to deal with committees that are defined to directly compete with other committees, the other committees that i'm worried about the competition be both new Pack and.

412
00:41:51.060 --> 00:41:53.220
james murez: And the neighborhood community.

413
00:41:59.160 --> 00:42:01.050
james murez: So before you.

414
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Ivan: Before you get started, can I just take 30 seconds and explain this what what you're going to be doing here.

415
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james murez: Yes, please.

416
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Ivan: Okay, these are ad hoc committee they're temporary committees they're separate from the standing committees, which are in the bylaws.

417
00:42:19.350 --> 00:42:29.100
Ivan: The processes each of these committees has to have a mission statement, so what that come does is approved the mission statements.

418
00:42:29.520 --> 00:42:38.700
Ivan: You can take what was submitted, you can amend what was submitted but eventually you're going to either approve a mission statement.

419
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:56.430
Ivan: or not, if you don't do it someone will have to come up come back and do it again once the mission statement is approved that then automatically goes on to the board agenda and the Board will create the committee with the mission statement that comes out of here.

420
00:42:58.200 --> 00:43:02.340
Ivan: After that's done, then the President appoints the chairs.

421
00:43:04.260 --> 00:43:06.150
Ivan: Okay, is everybody clear on that.

422
00:43:07.890 --> 00:43:23.760
Ivan: All right, the last thing Jim is i'm going to ask you, I mean you can do this, all at once, or you can do it individually, but what I said earlier, you have to have a an expiration date for these ad hoc committees and it can't be more than a year.

423
00:43:24.390 --> 00:43:30.960
james murez: So we could certainly discuss that now, or we could just let rules and selections write it into the rule.

424
00:43:31.050 --> 00:43:32.070
Ivan: No, no, no.

425
00:43:32.940 --> 00:43:35.700
james murez: We can't because the after the elections.

426
00:43:35.970 --> 00:43:37.770
Ivan: It goes in the mission statement.

427
00:43:37.860 --> 00:43:42.420
james murez: Right Okay, we have to do it now be before, because then I got it, we can look.

428
00:43:42.450 --> 00:43:43.080
Ivan: Back on.

429
00:43:43.140 --> 00:43:44.340
Ivan: The mission statement.

430
00:43:44.820 --> 00:43:50.640
james murez: So I would say that we just do it as a as a blanket thing and we'll just make do we have to do that as emotion.

431
00:43:53.040 --> 00:44:00.450
Ivan: You can you can make a motion to amend all of these to add one year or whatever it is you want the window to be.

432
00:44:02.970 --> 00:44:10.770
james murez: Well, I don't really care how long the committee's last I just care that they expire, with the new board.

433
00:44:13.980 --> 00:44:15.030
For my one year.

434
00:44:17.130 --> 00:44:18.000
daff: For 12 months.

435
00:44:18.060 --> 00:44:23.490
james murez: Okay, will do them all for for one year, or when the board or when the board expires, because that way it gets written into their.

436
00:44:23.490 --> 00:44:33.510
james murez: By both both parts, so that way of a committee doesn't get for this month and it gets for next month or the Month after we have this now and everybody's being treated equally yeah.

437
00:44:33.540 --> 00:44:35.340
Ivan: It would still be one year.

438
00:44:35.610 --> 00:44:37.440
Ivan: or until the seating of a new board.

439
00:44:38.130 --> 00:44:39.540
james murez: or seating perfect wording.

440
00:44:42.030 --> 00:44:46.890
james murez: Okay do i'll make that motion that i've been just spoke, Melissa did you get the text on that.

441
00:44:50.310 --> 00:45:06.510
daff: So I think actually procedurally here, Jim we're going to deal with each of these individually and so when you're not when you're making a motion for each of these you say I am going to move for the resiliency committee for term of one year, you know or to expire and fall months.

442
00:45:08.070 --> 00:45:09.210
daff: I think, let me go that way.

443
00:45:09.420 --> 00:45:10.620
james murez: Okay, we can do that that's.

444
00:45:10.620 --> 00:45:12.930
daff: Fine right so do five the Roman at one.

445
00:45:13.110 --> 00:45:13.800
james murez: yeah he said wait.

446
00:45:14.910 --> 00:45:15.870
Ivan: A minute here.

447
00:45:16.380 --> 00:45:17.520
Ivan: As part of the mission.

448
00:45:17.520 --> 00:45:18.480
james murez: statement I haven't.

449
00:45:18.900 --> 00:45:19.770
Ivan: had a problem with.

450
00:45:19.830 --> 00:45:22.470
james murez: I haven't I don't want to be new but thank you very much.

451
00:45:22.740 --> 00:45:23.070
Okay.

452
00:45:24.420 --> 00:45:37.230
melissa diner: Jim I still don't have a copy of the actual administrative I you just sent me two things of the Board agenda, which is why I got confused the beginning, like whatever i'll re edit it but i'm just letting you know.

453
00:45:37.890 --> 00:45:45.150
james murez: Look again I thought I sent you one was the board agenda, which was 817 and the other one was the Ad common agenda.

454
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:47.760
james murez: which was eight nine.

455
00:45:48.060 --> 00:45:56.130
daff: You just don't know so you can control C and copy right from the Ad comma agenda online and it will copy into word or Google Doc or whatever.

456
00:45:56.370 --> 00:45:59.010
melissa diner: Now first sure I just have to reform I didn't.

457
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:09.450
james murez: know I just I maybe I sent you the wrong file i'll send you another one right now sorry about that, but let's continue and Melissa and I will continue to deal with this separately.

458
00:46:10.620 --> 00:46:12.060
daff: And so I mean we have.

459
00:46:13.380 --> 00:46:18.660
daff: You know the resiliency committee the parking transportation Community events arbor Committee, I feel are fairly.

460
00:46:20.490 --> 00:46:27.750
daff: I don't wanna say non controversial, but you know they've been around in some form for a long time, and we have folks really dedicated to them, I would.

461
00:46:28.200 --> 00:46:35.250
daff: That would make a motion to approve all three of those this is five beaver minutes one through three to.

462
00:46:36.930 --> 00:46:38.100
daff: Prove for one year.

463
00:46:39.870 --> 00:46:43.140
Ivan: To the mission statement right.

464
00:46:45.120 --> 00:46:46.170
daff: that's listed on the agenda.

465
00:46:47.730 --> 00:46:48.660
james murez: I will second that.

466
00:46:54.150 --> 00:46:58.290
daff: We have some public comment here i'm Nick answer the cello go ahead.

467
00:47:00.660 --> 00:47:02.010
daff: sorry about all the noise next to me.

468
00:47:02.010 --> 00:47:02.610
daff: i'm kind of you.

469
00:47:03.210 --> 00:47:15.750
Nick Antonicello: But my comment is with Gordon sunrise and sunset of these ad hoc committees, so, for example, with the discussion committee it's been now organized for about five years.

470
00:47:16.860 --> 00:47:30.330
Nick Antonicello: Now that committees been in existence at what point does that committee sunset and would it be more appropriate to make that committee, a standing committee since its longevity in like I said about five years, thank you.

471
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:39.900
james murez: So we can i'm sorry I was sending Melissa that email other what were the committee that you were that you're referring to right now.

472
00:47:40.290 --> 00:47:43.380
daff: Nick Nick was referring to the discussion forum committee.

473
00:47:43.530 --> 00:47:48.270
daff: yeah and for ease of everyone's comment on this meeting just know that the city.

474
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:59.910
daff: There were some issue with the city about whether they should be standing committees or shouldn't be standing committees we're basically right now trying to comply with the city's rules and then we're going to figure it out, because.

475
00:48:01.530 --> 00:48:04.740
daff: There are some let's say difference of opinion on that.

476
00:48:05.190 --> 00:48:08.640
james murez: So we which one are we talking about right now, which one are they making.

477
00:48:09.450 --> 00:48:15.360
daff: So we are taking public comment on the motion five be to approve.

478
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:17.550
daff: The ad hoc committees and mission.

479
00:48:17.550 --> 00:48:21.060
daff: Statements on five be Roman at one, two and three.

480
00:48:21.120 --> 00:48:23.100
daff: This ministry resiliency committee.

481
00:48:23.190 --> 00:48:23.580
james murez: That was.

482
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james murez: Okay.

483
00:48:25.350 --> 00:48:31.710
daff: Thanks, so if your if your comment is not on these particular committees just save it for when it comes up.

484
00:48:33.150 --> 00:48:34.260
daff: least redmond go ahead.

485
00:48:36.030 --> 00:48:48.810
Lisa Redmond: yeah, I just wanted to make clear that the motion because there was so much chitchat is to add the 12 months on to the mission statements that thing about ending with a new administration isn't there.

486
00:48:50.130 --> 00:49:02.100
daff: Is it that is not correct the motion is to approve the ad hoc committees listed in five be Roman at one, two and three, with those mission statements, for a period of 12 months.

487
00:49:02.430 --> 00:49:11.550
Lisa Redmond: Okay, I don't know why you need to do that because you're standing rules clearly state that it is have a sunset date of 12 months but that's Okay, thank you.

488
00:49:12.420 --> 00:49:13.110
daff: Thank you.

489
00:49:14.370 --> 00:49:16.800
daff: cj go ahead.

490
00:49:19.950 --> 00:49:32.070
CJ Cole: Okay, this is perhaps a little more general and more toward five be than those three specific ones, but I do think that we have way too many committees.

491
00:49:32.850 --> 00:49:43.170
CJ Cole: On the vista on this I brought the attention of some of you already the Mar vista Community Council has limited there's.

492
00:49:43.530 --> 00:49:51.120
CJ Cole: And so there's not the overlap, we have so much overlap amongst our committees, plus it's also impossible.

493
00:49:51.750 --> 00:49:56.970
CJ Cole: You know there's just so many and so many meetings that people can't go to all.

494
00:49:57.600 --> 00:50:05.610
CJ Cole: and, frankly, my feeling as a board member is that if i'm going to vote on something at the board I better know a little something about it.

495
00:50:05.940 --> 00:50:16.470
CJ Cole: Which means I need to go to the the meeting that actually is presenting it and talking about it, I don't have that much time to go to meetings and i'm like the only board.

496
00:50:16.860 --> 00:50:41.100
CJ Cole: Member that goes to any of them almost Okay, you know, this is just something we need to discuss at some point before we just start Willy nilly approving you know 10 more committees um and I think it's very important that we, we discussed this before we just just approve all these committees.

497
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:43.890
daff: Thank you, thank you cj.

498
00:50:44.970 --> 00:50:47.580
daff: i'm Keith Harrison go ahead.

499
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:56.070
daff: I think you're muted Keith.

500
00:51:00.240 --> 00:51:01.140
Keith Harrison: Can you hear me now.

501
00:51:01.380 --> 00:51:02.700
daff: Yes, we can thanks.

502
00:51:03.060 --> 00:51:13.710
Keith Harrison: Okay sorry I just quickly wanted to ask your support to renew the Community resiliency committee, we have been very active throughout the pandemic.

503
00:51:14.790 --> 00:51:34.020
Keith Harrison: By posting information on our Twitter page we've also held training modules online for disaster preparedness and are working with the La fire department certain teams and the neighborhood training program and held a hands on radio.

504
00:51:35.700 --> 00:51:42.930
Keith Harrison: Exercise just recently so again we're very active wish to be even more activists things open up, thank you very much.

505
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:51.720
daff: Thanks so much Keith great to see you back i'm green and then our last public comment is Liz right Eva go ahead.

506
00:51:52.560 --> 00:51:56.430
Eva Greene: hi I agree with everything that cj said, I think.

507
00:51:58.470 --> 00:52:00.090
james murez: No oh.

508
00:52:00.750 --> 00:52:03.630
daff: Sorry, either hold on a second I don't know what happened to her.

509
00:52:04.620 --> 00:52:05.310
Eva Greene: Some sign.

510
00:52:05.580 --> 00:52:06.330
daff: up now.

511
00:52:06.420 --> 00:52:07.380
james murez: yeah they.

512
00:52:08.850 --> 00:52:14.520
Eva Greene: Are to say that I agree with everything that cj said, because I think we should try to align ourselves.

513
00:52:14.940 --> 00:52:27.060
Eva Greene: With the La City Council committees and their ad hoc committees, because then we know what is coming up before them and then we'll have the power to have some information that we can provide.

514
00:52:27.450 --> 00:52:36.780
Eva Greene: To Venice about what the City Council is doing, since we want to find out and have information and a voice on what they're doing.

515
00:52:37.530 --> 00:52:44.910
Eva Greene: There are, it looks like way too many that can be merged and I do think it is a waste of time and I also think that.

516
00:52:45.180 --> 00:53:00.240
Eva Greene: Every single member of the dnc should be attending this know what they're voting for so i'm in agreement with cj, but I also saying that you should try to align the committee's that are standing for ad hoc with the La la City Council, thank you.

517
00:53:01.020 --> 00:53:05.130
daff: awesome Thank you and Liz right go ahead.

518
00:53:09.420 --> 00:53:16.590
Elizabeth Wright: I I hope I understood correctly you're talking about only items five be one, two and three Is that correct.

519
00:53:16.950 --> 00:53:17.700
daff: Yes, correct.

520
00:53:20.190 --> 00:53:27.270
Elizabeth Wright: On the number two at the end, there is no board of directors it's the dnc board.

521
00:53:28.560 --> 00:53:36.930
Elizabeth Wright: And number three the mission statement, actually, as that is just the first sentence, the rest of it is what they intend to do and how they intend to do it.

522
00:53:41.790 --> 00:53:42.750
daff: Thank you Alice.

523
00:53:43.980 --> 00:53:53.190
daff: um okay um let's can we call a vote on the motion to approve five V one, two and three mission.

524
00:53:53.190 --> 00:54:01.440
james murez: statements we have adult excuse me, before we do that maybe listens comments were were corrupt and we should modify these slightly, we can do that.

525
00:54:03.630 --> 00:54:05.700
Ivan: It should be bored or golf or first.

526
00:54:07.650 --> 00:54:10.380
james murez: you're talking about number two it's not board of directors its board of.

527
00:54:10.380 --> 00:54:16.290
Ivan: officers or i'm going to go into the bylaws double check but i'm pretty sure order walk through this.

528
00:54:16.530 --> 00:54:21.510
james murez: yeah this is usually correct let's just give it to her she's we can just call it the board.

529
00:54:25.950 --> 00:54:31.680
james murez: So I made that note I don't know if Melissa has got the document open yet and.

530
00:54:32.550 --> 00:54:33.570
melissa diner: Everything caught up.

531
00:54:34.290 --> 00:54:34.650
james murez: Okay.

532
00:54:34.680 --> 00:54:36.270
james murez: And the second one was.

533
00:54:38.460 --> 00:54:44.130
james murez: After the first sentence I believe she said, the rest of it is what they how they plan to do it, not what.

534
00:54:44.460 --> 00:54:45.840
daff: Number three, I think.

535
00:54:46.110 --> 00:54:52.140
james murez: yeah so and then so number so be three is just percent.

536
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:57.420
Mike Bravo: and real quick what's the reason we're not clear number four on that.

537
00:55:01.230 --> 00:55:06.960
daff: I made the motion and I made the motion because I thought one, two and three were things that were.

538
00:55:07.170 --> 00:55:10.770
daff: Very strict only supported we have stakeholders in the Community that want to.

539
00:55:10.770 --> 00:55:16.230
daff: pursue these interest in having the past, and so I just thought it'd be easy to lump them together.

540
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:18.720
daff: Just take in terms of our meeting.

541
00:55:20.430 --> 00:55:20.910
Mike Bravo: Sorry, good.

542
00:55:21.690 --> 00:55:29.070
daff: Oh, the other things, I think, maybe you're going to each have a little bit more discussion and so practically to put them separately.

543
00:55:29.520 --> 00:55:35.940
Mike Bravo: Okay, I was asking to conserve the dfc to me to be similar to the other three like Okay, this one, to make sure.

544
00:55:39.330 --> 00:55:40.530
james murez: Okay, so let's take a boat.

545
00:55:43.260 --> 00:55:44.970
james murez: With the revised wording we're adding.

546
00:55:46.560 --> 00:55:48.840
Ivan: The bylaws says Board of officers.

547
00:55:49.470 --> 00:55:52.140
melissa diner: Okay got that one and, what is the other one.

548
00:55:53.580 --> 00:55:59.640
james murez: it's on number three the arbor committee it's only the first sentence.

549
00:56:02.730 --> 00:56:07.770
james murez: The mission, the mission statement is the first sense so we're taking out the rest of the paragraph.

550
00:56:09.780 --> 00:56:16.410
melissa diner: Okay, so just the first sentence yeah got it okay Jim.

551
00:56:17.670 --> 00:56:20.160
james murez: yeah and you got but excuse me, before we take the boat.

552
00:56:21.210 --> 00:56:26.490
james murez: You did get them we're adding into each of those that there's a one year son said yeah.

553
00:56:26.520 --> 00:56:27.960
melissa diner: I got that it's in there.

554
00:56:28.230 --> 00:56:30.900
james murez: Okay, thank you yeah yeah yes.

555
00:56:31.890 --> 00:56:33.030
daff: No yes.

556
00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:34.560
melissa diner: No yes nika.

557
00:56:36.750 --> 00:56:37.170
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

558
00:56:37.890 --> 00:56:38.460
Andrea.

559
00:56:39.990 --> 00:56:40.410
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

560
00:56:40.890 --> 00:56:42.720
Mike Bravo: Mike yes.

561
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:43.530
melissa diner: Ali being.

562
00:56:47.220 --> 00:56:48.810
melissa diner: Hello ollie been.

563
00:56:49.110 --> 00:56:49.860
james murez: I don't see her.

564
00:56:49.980 --> 00:56:52.680
daff: ali's here she's been dropping off as Peggy free.

565
00:56:52.680 --> 00:56:54.060
daff: Promoting mentalist.

566
00:56:54.300 --> 00:56:56.940
melissa diner: Okay, so she's absent Is there anyone I missed.

567
00:56:57.360 --> 00:56:59.400
daff: Now she's here she just let me out, let me.

568
00:56:59.910 --> 00:57:02.280
james murez: she's back now allie you want to unmute.

569
00:57:04.650 --> 00:57:08.520
james murez: We can't hear you why this was happening before in the other meeting to.

570
00:57:08.850 --> 00:57:09.720
james murez: She put her come up.

571
00:57:13.410 --> 00:57:14.100
melissa diner: No yes.

572
00:57:14.460 --> 00:57:21.300
james murez: holly we can't hear you, you can hear us though yeah I don't know what to say it's something to do with the new zoom.

573
00:57:21.930 --> 00:57:22.200
alright.

574
00:57:23.430 --> 00:57:24.960
melissa diner: Moving it is what it is.

575
00:57:24.990 --> 00:57:26.040
melissa diner: it's not that big of a deal.

576
00:57:26.040 --> 00:57:27.960
daff: Sally put your thumb up if you approve.

577
00:57:28.110 --> 00:57:28.740
james murez: She did.

578
00:57:29.490 --> 00:57:43.590
james murez: Great allie, let me make a quick suggestion, if you look at the agenda there's a telephone number toll free telephone number, you can call in, and so, if if it comes up later on, that you want to still raise your hand using the zoom.

579
00:57:44.670 --> 00:57:58.110
james murez: console in front of you, but when it comes time to speak because we don't hear your audio what we did in the previous meeting we use somebody's cell phone So if you call in with your cell phone that would give you the opportunity to speak on items.

580
00:57:59.580 --> 00:58:00.030
james murez: Okay.

581
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:07.950
daff: yeah we find comes up to you if that's the best way for you so we're Okay, with the thumbs up.

582
00:58:10.410 --> 00:58:13.230
daff: And everyone else you want to keep playing the role.

583
00:58:14.250 --> 00:58:15.030
melissa diner: At we're done.

584
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melissa diner: that's it.

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james murez: Okay, so now we need to move on to number four now the problem that we were having with number four when we were reading it, and looking over it, the discussion forum has continued to evolve over time and has continued to.

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james murez: expand on their mission statement.

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james murez: Basically, the way that I read it.

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james murez: is especially when you read like the last.

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james murez: Paragraph.

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james murez: They want to consider strategies that encourage and facilitate exploring non traditional options for achieving shared objectives well that's really broad reaching that pretty much says that.

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james murez: They want to explore them if we give them the opportunity to explore them they're going to be making motions on anything that they want to make motions on which is fine if they were the entire board of directors, but we need to have a much narrower definition.

592
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james murez: they're considering strategies to promote the arts, but we have an arts committee.

593
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james murez: So social events, well, we have an outreach Committee, these are standing committees neighborhood gatherings where we have a neighborhood committee.

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james murez: This motion statement this mission statement, excuse me can't go forward the way it is they're talking about including affordable housing, so now they're going to take on.

595
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james murez: Housing issues, well, we have a loop pack committee that is responsible for land use issues, and it would be very much stepping on their toes and it actually came up during the last.

596
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james murez: board cycle that several of the emotions that came out of the discussion forum were a direct conflict with other committee, so this one has to go back to the drawing board.

597
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james murez: that's how I feel about it and I allowed it to be put on the agenda, which I didn't have to do, because I wanted everybody to see it, and I wanted to.

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james murez: Talk about it with you all, but I don't believe that it's something that we want to put forward the way it is when the when the original discussion forum came out many years ago, I participated in a couple of the first few meetings, it was really just getting together and talk about.

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james murez: things that were going on in the Community.

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james murez: And there were no emotions coming out of it.

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james murez: But now that motion start coming out of it that are stepping on other committees, we have to take another look at it, I think the comments that that we heard tonight from from the audience.

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james murez: it's here, this is exactly the kind of problem that we've been having and we want to get away from it so having said that, I will open the floor up for discussion between the committee I don't.

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james murez: know exactly I haven't real quickly.

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melissa diner: I believe we have a motion on the.

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melissa diner: floor yet.

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james murez: No, we don't that's asking.

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Ivan: Ivan what has been hearing what you said.

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Ivan: Yes, I want him to entertain a motion to reject the mission statement.

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Okay.

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Ivan: motion.

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james murez: yeah I will make the motion to reject the mission statement.

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Ivan: Like I said you can't.

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james murez: I can't do that.

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Ivan: You there you go.

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james murez: yeah you're right.

616
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james murez: you're right you're right.

617
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Ivan: entertain a motion.

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james murez: i'll entertain a motion this is new, for me, folks sorry.

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daff: Someone want to make a motion to reject.

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melissa diner: The mission statement for.

621
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daff: Five be Roman up score.

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Nico Ruderman: All emotion or rejected.

623
01:01:46.680 --> 01:01:48.600
Mike Bravo: Okay i'll second that.

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melissa diner: You guys.

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melissa diner: Could you say your name when.

626
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melissa diner: You say.

627
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daff: It was NICO mei mei mei.

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Nico Ruderman: mei mei the motion and Mike Mike second it thanks.

629
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james murez: Now we now we can open the.

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james murez: The.

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james murez: Public comment on this.

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well.

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daff: We can do.

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james murez: We have a motion on the floor, we need to take public comment and then we'll vote on it.

635
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daff: alright.

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daff: Robin is going to be the last speaker on this one.

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daff: Liz right and everyone let's try to limit your comments to just this.

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james murez: emotion, I have not been running the stopwatch out of you know politeness to allow people to have their their speech I can run the stock clock, but I would just.

639
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daff: Say one's been pretty good, I think.

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daff: Everyone knows a minute.

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james murez: And so, if something was already said, and maybe then you can you know you're basically going to say the same thing, please just lower your hand and we'll get back to you later.

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james murez: Okay, so what less risk Liz go ahead.

643
01:02:46.680 --> 01:02:50.880
Elizabeth Wright: I heartily agree with your motion and.

644
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Elizabeth Wright: I hope you will ask whoever submitted this to change to making their recommendations to other committees, rather than the board.

645
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james murez: Interesting that's a good.

646
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daff: Thank you very much that's a very common Helen fallon go ahead.

647
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Helen Fallon: Well, I asked you to consider this as a committee that ought to be limited in its entirety the meetings aren't.

648
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Helen Fallon: attended at all, I mean i've gone to a couple and i'm the only person there it's the same small group that shows up your last several agendas consisted of discussing what they ought to be doing like they don't know what they're supposed to be doing.

649
01:03:35.490 --> 01:03:42.900
Helen Fallon: On they've gotten into loop tech issues that they have no business weighing on because they know nothing about land use issues and.

650
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Helen Fallon: they've taken motions that were rejected by the homeless committee and then you know frank persuaded his brother to put them forward.

651
01:03:50.820 --> 01:03:55.110
Helen Fallon: it's a waste of time and they don't even follow the basic rules about.

652
01:03:55.890 --> 01:04:11.730
Helen Fallon: You know how to make motions the Code of Conduct anything because there's not even any board members showing up so you've got an issue there of violations and it's there's no point in it, it makes no sense to continue that committee it's.

653
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james murez: Thank you.

654
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daff: cj go ahead.

655
01:04:18.540 --> 01:04:34.080
CJ Cole: Sorry, I don't like to be this vocal but I like Jim good start out kind of going to a few of these many years ago that says the most worthless committee that we have ever conceived Oh, they have gone from.

656
01:04:34.770 --> 01:04:51.840
CJ Cole: Children to get in streets to you know I don't know what it is just a committee that should be some kind of a little social group that meets aside and if they want to chit chat about things fine, but other than that, it is a worthless committee.

657
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james murez: Thank you.

658
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Eva Greene: hi okay so i'm an agreement with quite a few other people have said, the this committee seems to step on anybody's toes because I don't think they have a focus.

659
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Eva Greene: On what they themselves stand for what they want to stand for, I agree with what Jim said earlier, they need to revise their mission statement, they need to really think about who they are, but they are not Luke PIC they're not the homeless committee meeting they're not.

660
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Eva Greene: any of the other committees or arcs are public health and safety, and they always seem to put motions forward that are then later rejected by the board that sends them off to these other committees that I just mentioned.

661
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Eva Greene: They need to come up with a mission statement and decide who they really are because they're not any of the other committees, because they're always referred out somewhere, thank you.

662
01:05:50.670 --> 01:05:53.160
daff: Thanks a lot Lisa redmond go ahead.

663
01:05:55.200 --> 01:06:07.770
Lisa Redmond: yeah I agree that this is a problematic committee and this mission statement, whatever it is, should be rejected because they just seem to cause more problems than add to.

664
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Lisa Redmond: Too many duplicate motions motions that were rejected they're just kind of stepping into everyone else's business, although I do like the idea of Liz.

665
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Lisa Redmond: That we maybe have like a think tank committee people that do want to get around and sit together and talk about the best business vision, as put forth in our standing rules.

666
01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:39.450
Lisa Redmond: and think what would be good for business and maybe come up with ideas and say hey Lucas, what about this and send ideas to lupus or hey homeless committee or hey tree committee.

667
01:06:40.530 --> 01:06:43.740
Lisa Redmond: I think the idea of maybe sending it back to them.

668
01:06:44.790 --> 01:06:51.810
Lisa Redmond: The mission statement and why it's being rejected, and maybe it say hey maybe you might want to think about for me to committee in this way.

669
01:06:52.980 --> 01:06:58.890
Lisa Redmond: that's I think that's the purposes they just want to get together and chat about how they can make things better.

670
01:07:00.540 --> 01:07:01.650
daff: So much.

671
01:07:03.450 --> 01:07:09.930
daff: Robin sorry Darrell but I called Robin is the last person unless it's dire urgent.

672
01:07:10.500 --> 01:07:14.340
RobinRudisill: High rubber is Robin I support the motion, I agree with.

673
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RobinRudisill: Everything Jim said and i'm very uncomfortable with the focus on children, I think we need to let the parents and the schools focus on the children that's not our role, thank you.

674
01:07:29.220 --> 01:07:30.360
james murez: Okay, all right awesome thank.

675
01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:38.340
daff: You very much um let's um i'm going to just mute myself here because i'm next to what seems like a very, very fun party going on.

676
01:07:39.660 --> 01:07:45.840
daff: And if anyone i'll just actually start board discussion on this one, because I was one of the original members of the discussion forum committee.

677
01:07:45.900 --> 01:07:52.290
james murez: Because, although it's a garden daffodil one second excuse, let me interrupt you, for a second public comment is closed, yes, yes.

678
01:07:54.480 --> 01:08:05.340
daff: And I think it was started for all the purposes that that Liz thought about and a few others and spoken about, which was Joe had this idea it actually initially started, because he was trying to engage people.

679
01:08:05.700 --> 01:08:16.470
daff: On items, not on the agenda on email and the city attorney had a problem with that, as being a potential Brock violation, even though these were items, not on the agenda, he just wanted to promote more discussion about issues.

680
01:08:16.860 --> 01:08:21.360
daff: So they decided to create this committee and I was one of the first people on it.

681
01:08:22.050 --> 01:08:24.930
daff: And the real purpose was to was to.

682
01:08:25.170 --> 01:08:35.670
daff: Have like a free forum discussion for things and see if there's anything else anyone wants to talk about that could then go to a committee because there weren't things falling through the cracks and there wasn't always a committee willing.

683
01:08:36.150 --> 01:08:43.050
daff: To take up a subject particularly a more controversial subject right a lot of committees would stay away from things that were kind of controversial.

684
01:08:43.500 --> 01:08:48.930
daff: So I think in the beginning, it was very well intended, and I think Joe is really put his heart into it, but.

685
01:08:49.500 --> 01:09:02.880
daff: I probably agree that it's gotten like most things overly expensive moving on so maybe we I would say, reject this as is and go back and work with Joe and see if we can find something that is a little more.

686
01:09:04.230 --> 01:09:09.120
daff: A little narrower a little more in its own lane, and something that would be maybe more productive for the board.

687
01:09:13.440 --> 01:09:14.790
james murez: anybody else have any comments.

688
01:09:15.030 --> 01:09:15.450
yeah.

689
01:09:16.740 --> 01:09:17.040
Mike Bravo: But.

690
01:09:18.270 --> 01:09:19.320
melissa diner: I can't raise my hands.

691
01:09:20.940 --> 01:09:23.880
Mike Bravo: Okay, thanks so yeah I just want a second death, you know.

692
01:09:25.050 --> 01:09:33.570
Mike Bravo: back when I was on the Council back in 2014 when the first things I joined to, and then I said God could get bored of it, you know jim's a good guy and all that but um.

693
01:09:34.230 --> 01:09:48.060
Mike Bravo: yeah look maybe we can talk to Jim and see if we can maybe get some kind of a side project of outreach people can be social just dialogue and I said, you know think tank type of situation so yeah I agree with death.

694
01:09:51.810 --> 01:09:52.590
james murez: Melissa go ahead.

695
01:09:53.430 --> 01:10:00.720
melissa diner: yeah I just think that, in general, like also at the Ford will get into the six guys, which is like.

696
01:10:01.170 --> 01:10:11.310
melissa diner: Like merits even and getting into it, so I think for these next ones, and this one's it's like do you support people having a committee and then we can even.

697
01:10:11.580 --> 01:10:16.350
melissa diner: You know, give them the feedback that we've heard about this but, like, I think.

698
01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:22.140
melissa diner: In order to be efficient and also like to give people a voice, like in general.

699
01:10:22.440 --> 01:10:35.190
melissa diner: If people want to have added at a committee like let them have at it, we can get into the minutiae on all of these we'll get into that the board again, but I think we can you know, let people have.

700
01:10:35.700 --> 01:10:44.700
melissa diner: i'm all for letting people that want to try to make business better do it in whatever form they want and if that's through a committee go for it.

701
01:10:47.640 --> 01:10:51.090
james murez: Thank you okay well um any other comments before we take a vote.

702
01:10:55.410 --> 01:10:58.560
james murez: So we have a motion on the formula, so you want to go ahead and take a roll call book, please.

703
01:11:07.050 --> 01:11:08.310
james murez: You need to unmute Melissa.

704
01:11:09.960 --> 01:11:17.910
melissa diner: i'm aware of that we normally just whip through this and it's all unanimous but i'll continue taking roll call boggs James miras.

705
01:11:17.970 --> 01:11:19.530
melissa diner: Yes, daffodil.

706
01:11:20.040 --> 01:11:21.780
melissa diner: yeah I vote yes.

707
01:11:24.090 --> 01:11:27.870
melissa diner: NICO Roman yes Andrea.

708
01:11:28.410 --> 01:11:30.030
melissa diner: Yes, make bravo.

709
01:11:30.390 --> 01:11:31.830
melissa diner: Yes, levy.

710
01:11:35.940 --> 01:11:36.330
james murez: yo.

711
01:11:37.860 --> 01:11:38.730
daff: Alec can you hear us.

712
01:11:38.940 --> 01:11:41.820
james murez: We can't hear you voting yes or no.

713
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:44.100
daff: or yes.

714
01:11:44.160 --> 01:11:45.300
james murez: Thank you, that was a eunice.

715
01:11:48.180 --> 01:11:52.260
james murez: Okay, moving right along we're definitely making some progress.

716
01:11:53.490 --> 01:11:54.150
james murez: um.

717
01:11:55.590 --> 01:12:00.150
melissa diner: I would just like to make a motion to put all the rest of these on and.

718
01:12:01.350 --> 01:12:05.640
melissa diner: move on and then we can talk about that matt the board meeting.

719
01:12:07.020 --> 01:12:20.310
james murez: The problem is, is that they all overlap with each other in some way, shape or form, so we can't approve all of them, because then we would have a big cluster of people stepping on everybody else's toes.

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01:12:23.040 --> 01:12:31.740
james murez: I had one thought, and that was that we create a task force that would combine them into one.

721
01:12:33.660 --> 01:12:35.220
james murez: committee at the end of the day.

722
01:12:38.220 --> 01:12:39.540
james murez: So, again.

723
01:12:42.120 --> 01:12:44.670
james murez: not sure how we want to move forward on this.

724
01:12:45.780 --> 01:12:47.490
Ivan: entertain a motion Jim.

725
01:12:47.790 --> 01:12:57.420
james murez: yeah So the question is, do I want to interrupt but I don't need to entertain a motion i've been if i'm going to create a task force for it.

726
01:12:57.930 --> 01:12:59.430
Ivan: All right, you could do it on your own.

727
01:13:00.930 --> 01:13:05.760
melissa diner: Well then, the motion is to make them all one committee well someone's that combat.

728
01:13:06.270 --> 01:13:12.090
james murez: Well, but we don't then we don't have a mission statement, so the idea would be that we would create a task force that would.

729
01:13:12.150 --> 01:13:13.530
would work to create.

730
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:23.160
james murez: And I think basically what we would do is, we would have the makers of these five mission statements all joined together and and put their.

731
01:13:24.030 --> 01:13:34.980
james murez: Their efforts together to come up with one mission statement that covered all of the basis without going out to the other committees and stepping on toes of other committees and.

732
01:13:35.550 --> 01:13:36.840
melissa diner: Make that motion.

733
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daff: Tasks or by you do I think you're mischaracterizing something here, not all of these are emotions having to do with homeless, so we did have item 567 and eight all have to do with homeless, but number five drug addiction mental health awareness and solutions committee is a separate animal.

734
01:14:02.130 --> 01:14:14.520
daff: I appreciate it we've got different folks that all want to work on homelessness I know they all work together the vast and work together and we need to come up with some mission statement for that, but let's deal with them.

735
01:14:16.350 --> 01:14:19.350
james murez: So what let's let's deal with five first.

736
01:14:19.380 --> 01:14:29.160
melissa diner: Do I hear us oh wait, can I can I say something, though, even though, like couldn't we still make a motion to approve that and combine the others to one done move on.

737
01:14:30.180 --> 01:14:30.810
james murez: Okay.

738
01:14:31.950 --> 01:14:38.970
james murez: Melissa i'm not sure I understand what you mean by combine the others that we need a mission statement to put before the board.

739
01:14:39.300 --> 01:14:52.740
james murez: To approve or disapprove, and we have multiple mission statements all that are combining each other's thoughts in some ways, or shapes record we can't have all of these different committees.

740
01:14:53.520 --> 01:15:02.370
melissa diner: To have them get together before the board meeting and resubmit a new mission statement all together as one that's what that motion would need.

741
01:15:03.660 --> 01:15:05.790
Ivan: To have to come back to the next, add come.

742
01:15:06.120 --> 01:15:06.840
james murez: Yes.

743
01:15:06.900 --> 01:15:07.980
james murez: I think that's clear.

744
01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:09.570
james murez: Yes, let's just.

745
01:15:09.720 --> 01:15:10.500
james murez: let's do.

746
01:15:11.370 --> 01:15:19.950
daff: let's not put the carpet for the worst here we've got five be Roman at five let's deal with that first let's call that item and then let's move on to six, seven and eight.

747
01:15:21.990 --> 01:15:22.410
daff: Okay.

748
01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:30.720
daff: So five is the drug addiction mental health awareness and solutions committee and with liz's great guidance.

749
01:15:31.710 --> 01:15:40.650
daff: I would make a motion to approve this committee and do approve the mission statement which consists of the second sentence.

750
01:15:41.340 --> 01:15:56.730
daff: Starting with the mission of this committee and to have that committee last for a period of 12 months and I will say Ali, this was submitted by Ali, for her to be the you know she's interested in the topic and we're having some.

751
01:15:57.900 --> 01:15:58.830
james murez: way yeah when.

752
01:15:59.400 --> 01:16:00.030
You make to.

753
01:16:02.820 --> 01:16:04.650
daff: make them i've made the motion I just.

754
01:16:04.710 --> 01:16:07.200
daff: i'm sure allie would be making the motion i'm just trying.

755
01:16:07.200 --> 01:16:08.250
daff: to know that you.

756
01:16:09.720 --> 01:16:10.320
haven't least.

757
01:16:12.150 --> 01:16:13.890
daff: allie is not able to speak.

758
01:16:14.160 --> 01:16:14.790
Ivan: So i'm trying to.

759
01:16:15.090 --> 01:16:19.080
daff: Her because I know that she's having trouble with communication so hold your horses.

760
01:16:19.350 --> 01:16:22.710
daff: Canadians fine your emotion and my asking for a second.

761
01:16:22.800 --> 01:16:24.720
james murez: Valley, could you please call in if you.

762
01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:26.400
james murez: want to speak on this item.

763
01:16:26.490 --> 01:16:27.750
daff: emptiness tried.

764
01:16:27.960 --> 01:16:29.250
james murez: Jim please, although.

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daff: We she has tried we've been working on this, all meeting all the meetings we're going on she's having a hard time connecting.

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james murez: The cell phone doesn't work.

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daff: I have made the motion do we have a second.

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Andrea Boccaletti: i'll second that motion.

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james murez: Thank you.

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Andrea Boccaletti: Any discussion good sorry it's under a book ladies.

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james murez: yeah i'll have to take public comment and we have a look.

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daff: Take public comment Darrell go ahead.

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james murez: We have five Lisa Lisa redmond's going to be the last public comment on the side.

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Darryl DuFay: You can hear me.

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daff: Yes, yeah yes, we can hear you.

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Darryl DuFay: quickly, as I can, I have phone, I have followed homeless for last five years, and what I am seeing now is finally.

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Darryl DuFay: What people are talking about is triage during the problems with homelessness and one of the major areas is this committee, which deals with mental illness and drug addiction, the two major things and what is not included in all in homeless meetings which i've been to in the middle.

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Darryl DuFay: Is that it's it's a lot of up it's a lot of other things, and I think it's so important for the homeless issues to say okay what.

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Darryl DuFay: Are you doing what can you do and how you are addressing.

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Darryl DuFay: These issues, especially those because of all we're saying, where we're going to put people in transitional things were going to do that I never see the services.

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Darryl DuFay: Were and how effective they have been, since they are paid for by the county and that's why I really liked the idea that they have this, but I think it should be again focused on helping the homeless, by identifying and moving them forward such as getting a job, thank you.

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daff: Thanks so much Darrell Helen go ahead.

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Helen Fallon: um yeah i'm Darrell has may confuse now I thought this was basically an idea that would address the resources and services for all the Community, not just for focusing on homeless.

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Helen Fallon: But I do think that this really falls under public health and safety, which is a committee that ought to be a standing committee and the bylaws every get revised that should be reflected.

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Helen Fallon: On and if it's going to deal with these broad issues and look at resources um I think a task force would be the most efficient way to do it, it can be done to the.

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Helen Fallon: Research can be done a presentation can be made to either homeless committee or public health and safety, so that then the proper emotions are crafted and going forward to the board, we actually as a Community.

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Helen Fallon: Take a position and ask for the things that we feel should be provided to this community that relate to that that would meet the needs of all stakeholders if it's only going to focus on homeless, then I think that it's just it's just a small piece of of a broader community, so I.

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Helen Fallon: personally think.

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Helen Fallon: Having an ad hoc committee, it would be much more efficient for them to function as a task force.

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daff: Thank you.

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daff: Eva green go ahead.

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Eva Greene: hi.

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Eva Greene: I agree with a lot of what Helen said, this is stepping on the toes of the homeless committee.

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Eva Greene: and public health and safety committee so i'm not sure why this was even brought forth quite honestly.

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Eva Greene: Because at the perfect Health and Safety Committee meeting they've already had people from La county mental health services come on and do some amazing amazing work.

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Eva Greene: And presentations so it's already being handled there, and there have already been a couple motions about this as well, so i'm not sure why the duplication here, and also how they will be also stepping on the toes of the homeless committee.

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Eva Greene: Now granted it is new, because people are finally talking about mental health that is a county issue they are in charge of.

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Eva Greene: All services for the mentally ill, I think it's important to talk about these things but public health and safety has already been talking about it.

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Eva Greene: Already so i'm a little bit confused on why this was even established, because it is there, so anybody who wants to join, public health and safety you're homeless should do that because these issues are already being discussed.

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daff: Maybe not an added Eva Thank you we got it.

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daff: Liz right go ahead Hello Lisa governed by the way, is our last commenter.

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Elizabeth Wright: I read read the thing and the word homeless doesn't exist.

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Elizabeth Wright: Anyway, if you do decide to have this committee as a separate committee, I hope you will limit it to education.

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Elizabeth Wright: you're not going to solve mental illness and you're not going to solve.

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Elizabeth Wright: Drug addiction.

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Elizabeth Wright: that's all.

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Lisa Redmond: um yeah Liz may my exact point that they're nowhere in this motion is the word homeless, I would bet there are way far more house people with mental health and addiction issues than there are on house people in Venice.

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Lisa Redmond: it's a well written motion the person who ever put it together feels that there's a strong need for this in the Community.

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Lisa Redmond: I agree with the way it's written that it does show that there's a need for this, and this is the beauty of a neighborhood Council is government at its.

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Lisa Redmond: clearest accessible form that we have this kind of committee if there's a need for it there's a need for it in the Community, it should be allowed, we shouldn't limit the number of committees.

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Lisa Redmond: If there's a need for it, and there are people that want it it's not stepping on the toes of homeless and it's not stepping on the toes of public health and safety, because public health is.

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Lisa Redmond: Public Health not individual health issues, whereas this is treating public health is contaminated water and pandemics, so I would surely consider this as a strong candidate for a committee an ad hoc committee.

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james murez: Okay, so i'm going to close public comment now that was the last speaker perfect i'll even put down Lisa redmond's hand Thank you Lisa.

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james murez: I think that.

815
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james murez: The issue of the the several people talked about, and the issue of an overlapping with other committees, I don't see it necessarily overlapping with the homeless committee that does not yet exist, and I think we'll end up with one at some point in the near future.

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james murez: But we do have an ad hoc committee that doesn't expire until next month, which is public safety and health and it, there is a certain amount of overlap.

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james murez: I think that that although some people spoke to support that concept and other spoke to try and defend the concept that there is no overlap between the two.

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james murez: I think that that because we have a public health and safety committee we can't rewrite the existing mission statement of their committee until after next month to not include.

819
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james murez: Drug addiction and mental health in their mission and because they've already had these topics in their committee and they brought them forward to the board in previous motions and they've had public speakers come in.

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james murez: That we wouldn't be stepping on their toes at this point if we've now created a new committee before their committee expired and we had an opportunity.

821
01:24:40.440 --> 01:24:49.470
james murez: To to redo those so i'm not sure exactly how the committee at this point feels about this, but I would think that maybe if we postpone this for one month.

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james murez: And then we could do those two committees, at the same time and figure out how we could combine the effort we might be better off and save ourselves the headache later on, have.

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james murez: That belongs to me or that belongs to you or you know some kind of conflict that might end up existing because people feel like they have to go to too many meetings or however that works to be able to focus on what they want to focus on, so do we have any comment about them.

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daff: You want to speak to me yeah I actually would like to comment back on that.

825
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daff: Because I 100% disagree, I think that this committee is specific and narrowly tailored to a mission, particularly focusing on children and people in the Community.

826
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daff: I think, public safety is just sort of grabbed every topic possible it's about to expire so to let this go for another month and it and if that's as a committee we want to take the position that we're just going to put it off.

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daff: that's fine, but I really disagree with doing that public safety will have to be will they'll have to resubmit a mission statement, and I think they they've adopted so many topics under their purview that to me don't seem like public safety.

828
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daff: That it's appropriate to have this as a small narrowly focused committee that can have one specific objective.

829
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daff: I think this is an issue that when it gets lumped in with everything else it gets lost in this and and not appreciated for what it is and it's not just.

830
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daff: Drug addiction, but in the mental health, you know writ large, but I think the goal here is to focus on specific solutions for people in the Community so.

831
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daff: I disagree, I think I would say I think when public safety comes up, we should really look to narrow their focus obviously i'm a huge supporter of public safety.

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daff: I really believe in what they do and I think they do great work, but I think they cover so much territory and there's a lot of room for everybody to jump in in our Community.

833
01:26:51.930 --> 01:27:05.400
daff: And and do things it doesn't have to be the same for people or five you know, whatever doing all of this stuff, so I would say we're a new board we're forming new committees we've got that one frankly just because of a Cork it's not sun setting.

834
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daff: Right it's.

835
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daff: headed with the board but it's getting one more month, so I disagree, I would I would start fresh and let's go with some enthusiasm on these issues, which I think are very important, and when we need to the retailer public safety, we can do it.

836
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james murez: Let me just let me just ask one point for clarity before the next person chimes in.

837
01:27:26.970 --> 01:27:39.390
james murez: You made a point that this is going to be for children, but in the second sentence, it also says treatment for adults in our Community, so I just want to be clear that this is not focusing just on.

838
01:27:40.830 --> 01:27:43.530
james murez: Children or teens in our schools.

839
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james murez: it's actually much broader than that.

840
01:27:46.920 --> 01:27:48.390
daff: So go ahead, true.

841
01:27:48.720 --> 01:27:52.890
daff: But I think you will find the research on this is that the most effective intervention.

842
01:27:52.920 --> 01:27:56.190
daff: And solutions come with kids of a certain age and.

843
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daff: So I think it says, as well as adults.

844
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Mike Bravo: That does.

845
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james murez: yeah I don't have a problem with it i'm just saying that I want to be clear that this is not just for children.

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james murez: Mike did you want to speak.

847
01:28:08.910 --> 01:28:20.310
Mike Bravo: yeah yeah so just a quick note, it is for adults as well, and also to I think it's a very much needed Committee, the public health and safety, I think it's more of a.

848
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Mike Bravo: come along forsman centric type of dialogue, so when you're talking about mental health that's always kind of centered in.

849
01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:38.310
Mike Bravo: Law enforcement role or you know something related to that too is, I think a focus like this is good because there's so many misconceptions about mental health and drug abuse and.

850
01:28:39.330 --> 01:28:45.900
Mike Bravo: Like, for instance, there are studies that show that there's very little difference between drug addiction between how's none house people.

851
01:28:46.440 --> 01:28:58.860
Mike Bravo: But in House you know get obviously more the attention because we're in Venice and we have an issue of your weekend how situation, but I think the very much needed focused committee and just co signer can the daffodil said as well.

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01:29:00.300 --> 01:29:02.610
james murez: Okay, thank you anybody else.

853
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james murez: We go go ahead.

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Nico Ruderman: yeah I fully agree with Mike you know, and you know I listen to public comment, and you know even hell and I I understand what you guys are saying and under normal circumstances, I would fully agree, but the overlap issues but.

855
01:29:23.010 --> 01:29:29.790
Nico Ruderman: You know work weren't wearing like an unprecedented crisis going on right now with mental health and drug addiction addiction coming out of panic and.

856
01:29:31.350 --> 01:29:38.550
Nico Ruderman: all kinds of other issues, and you know living in Venice it's it's really one of the most pressing topics, both for housing and I was people so.

857
01:29:40.110 --> 01:29:44.790
Nico Ruderman: You know, an ad hoc committee is is that it's a temporary committee to deal with.

858
01:29:46.590 --> 01:29:48.840
Nico Ruderman: Hopefully you know temporary issue, so I.

859
01:29:50.580 --> 01:29:58.110
Nico Ruderman: You know this, this one topic can take up the full time of a committee, so I think it's totally appropriate for it to have its own own committee.

860
01:30:01.980 --> 01:30:07.050
Nico Ruderman: i'll give it'll give time to focus on other issues for the other communities okay.

861
01:30:08.130 --> 01:30:12.690
james murez: Thank you anybody else Andreas you have your hand up, would you like to speak.

862
01:30:15.090 --> 01:30:23.310
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, I agree with with with Nikos that as well, I mean, even if this one overlaps a little bit it's such an important topic and.

863
01:30:24.360 --> 01:30:29.580
Andrea Boccaletti: Especially since this one is, including some outreach into the schools and especially for the fall semester.

864
01:30:31.380 --> 01:30:35.070
Andrea Boccaletti: I think it's very important and it doesn't mean that the homeless.

865
01:30:36.120 --> 01:30:38.850
Andrea Boccaletti: Community I don't think cannot address.

866
01:30:40.440 --> 01:30:50.880
Andrea Boccaletti: Part of the mental health as far as how it relates to the safety in the Community, but this one is very important and needs to be adjusted.

867
01:30:52.050 --> 01:30:55.290
Andrea Boccaletti: It could like Nicole said it could take up a whole.

868
01:30:57.180 --> 01:31:04.410
Andrea Boccaletti: Its own time period and we tell you it would take too much away from the homes Committee, I think, just it was lumped in with all of the rest of the issues.

869
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james murez: Okay.

870
01:31:10.740 --> 01:31:12.510
james murez: Any other comments anybody.

871
01:31:13.050 --> 01:31:13.770
daff: um yeah I have.

872
01:31:13.890 --> 01:31:15.780
daff: One comment sorry go ahead.

873
01:31:17.040 --> 01:31:25.230
melissa diner: I just want to say, like let's let people have these committees, whatever they want, I hope we don't spend that time that much time on the next ones.

874
01:31:25.530 --> 01:31:31.230
melissa diner: This is part of the problem we get from just continuing to do things the way we've done like rushing to have.

875
01:31:31.620 --> 01:31:41.850
melissa diner: All of these committees on like our first meeting ever it's like we waste time in just like the learning process of everyone and it's it's I don't want to exhaust people.

876
01:31:42.150 --> 01:31:52.410
melissa diner: With our processes, I want people to be like energized and excited about how we can help facilitate them to do what they want, so I don't want to get so stuck in the minutia.

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melissa diner: I want to be like let's just figure out a way to keep the energy going that's positive not be so bummed out, I mean anyways you hear what i'm saying i'm getting off, but.

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01:32:03.240 --> 01:32:08.040
daff: um, let me just say two things three things actually one Jason sugars is on the meeting.

879
01:32:08.310 --> 01:32:09.810
james murez: Well, great welcome.

880
01:32:11.520 --> 01:32:17.730
daff: to one of the reasons to get this one in particular in is because of the start of the school year.

881
01:32:18.420 --> 01:32:27.090
daff: Which is coming up, and so there were some issues with getting going on that and three i'd like to make a amendment to the mission statement.

882
01:32:27.540 --> 01:32:33.840
daff: Which evolved a little bit since it was set on add comments very close, but the exact language is different and Melissa I can email it to you.

883
01:32:34.590 --> 01:32:43.650
daff: But the mission statement should read our mission is to address the ever increasing problems of drug addiction untreated mental health in our neighborhoods.

884
01:32:43.950 --> 01:32:52.410
daff: to educate young children and teens in our local schools about these issues and to develop compassionate services and treatment plans for adults in our neighborhoods.

885
01:32:53.490 --> 01:32:59.850
daff: And I can speak to why the mission statement evolved it's similar to what it was the wording is just a little different.

886
01:33:00.900 --> 01:33:07.710
daff: So the motion i've been making to approve this committee with that mission statement for one year would be to that mission statement I just read.

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melissa diner: that's fine I got an email the language.

888
01:33:12.120 --> 01:33:12.450
daff: I will.

889
01:33:13.020 --> 01:33:24.900
james murez: yeah and and along those lines, we need a different acronym seven letters is just too many sorry we I think if we could just cut it down to.

890
01:33:25.980 --> 01:33:32.460
james murez: Drug addiction and mental health, I think that that would be fine for a committee we don't need awareness and solutions in there.

891
01:33:33.540 --> 01:33:38.520
daff: We can we can work on yeah so i've made the motion to it, and I think Mike second is that right.

892
01:33:38.850 --> 01:33:43.920
melissa diner: Andrea secondary role yeah great Jim.

893
01:33:44.490 --> 01:33:45.810
melissa diner: Yes, yes.

894
01:33:46.050 --> 01:33:47.700
melissa diner: Yes, I vote yes.

895
01:33:49.290 --> 01:33:50.190
melissa diner: Nicole ruhlman.

896
01:33:51.090 --> 01:33:52.620
melissa diner: Yes, Andrea.

897
01:33:53.040 --> 01:33:54.510
melissa diner: Yes, my bravo.

898
01:33:54.870 --> 01:33:56.280
melissa diner: Yes, Ali been.

899
01:33:58.290 --> 01:33:59.160
james murez: She put her thumb up.

900
01:33:59.760 --> 01:34:00.780
melissa diner: Jason sugars.

901
01:34:01.140 --> 01:34:05.610
melissa diner: Yes, and when you guys get here if you arrive late moving.

902
01:34:05.610 --> 01:34:13.110
melissa diner: forward to meetings or you leave early announced herself, so I know you're here, so I can mark when you arrive on the agenda.

903
01:34:16.470 --> 01:34:17.400
melissa diner: Thank you hey.

904
01:34:17.550 --> 01:34:19.590
james murez: What Melissa what was the boat 800.

905
01:34:21.510 --> 01:34:22.530
melissa diner: Yes, unanimous.

906
01:34:23.520 --> 01:34:24.180
james murez: Thank you.

907
01:34:26.370 --> 01:34:30.270
james murez: Okay, so now moving back to the agenda, so now we have.

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01:34:32.430 --> 01:34:34.020
Oh boy where did we leave all.

909
01:34:35.250 --> 01:34:44.670
daff: we're on five be number, six, seven and eight, and these are the three independent homeless committee mission statements that were submitted.

910
01:34:45.180 --> 01:34:54.870
daff: I think what we had been discussing was either forming a task force or delaying these a month, so that the folks who submitted these can work together and come up with one mission statement for one committee.

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01:34:55.140 --> 01:35:10.500
james murez: yeah I would, I would like to create a task force to to combine them, you know, to let the people that submitted those get together and figure out how to come up with one mission statement that serves the needs of all.

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01:35:11.850 --> 01:35:14.610
daff: We can create a task force, but I don't think we need you, I think.

913
01:35:15.090 --> 01:35:27.090
daff: You know these everyone knows each other and his family and the Community, I would just suggest we asked to push this a month and let them come back and let's come up with one mission statement I mean, I think we want everyone to work together.

914
01:35:27.720 --> 01:35:28.470
james murez: Okay, so.

915
01:35:28.830 --> 01:35:30.420
daff: It has to be in a formal task for.

916
01:35:30.600 --> 01:35:33.660
james murez: I would entertain a motion along those lines to just.

917
01:35:35.130 --> 01:35:39.270
Ivan: motion should be to postpone these items until the next come.

918
01:35:39.690 --> 01:35:42.720
Ivan: yeah and then you can facilitate whatever you want to be.

919
01:35:43.890 --> 01:35:44.340
james murez: thinking.

920
01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:47.250
james murez: Well, I need somebody to make that motion.

921
01:35:48.030 --> 01:35:48.330
daff: About.

922
01:35:48.390 --> 01:35:49.860
melissa diner: I like that.

923
01:35:50.190 --> 01:35:51.180
melissa diner: that's why.

924
01:35:52.860 --> 01:35:59.520
melissa diner: I wanna say that we want them to combined because postpone just means they can come like say that they're not going to combine.

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01:35:59.880 --> 01:36:06.780
james murez: Melissa hang on one second before we get into discussing it, I want to understand why Andreas has his hand up.

926
01:36:07.620 --> 01:36:11.130
Andrea Boccaletti: So I just want to ask so isn't the homeless committee is a standing.

927
01:36:11.460 --> 01:36:13.950
james murez: committee already right no it's not okay.

928
01:36:14.280 --> 01:36:15.810
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, thank you yeah.

929
01:36:16.620 --> 01:36:16.920
Andrea Boccaletti: um.

930
01:36:17.130 --> 01:36:18.180
daff: I think, Melissa if.

931
01:36:18.180 --> 01:36:22.710
daff: People come back with three different motions they're going to get sent back to.

932
01:36:24.180 --> 01:36:34.260
daff: fix them, so I think I mean every you know these guys all know each other, I think everyone gets what we're trying to do, we will obviously want to have it almost committee we just want it to be done together.

933
01:36:34.530 --> 01:36:35.640
melissa diner: that's fine I just think.

934
01:36:35.700 --> 01:36:49.080
melissa diner: People are new right, so they don't know what it means that's all I think if you put postpone two combined together, I mean that's more clear if i'm new and I submitted one of these motions if everyone's knows the deal.

935
01:36:50.550 --> 01:36:56.040
james murez: Okay, but let me ask you a quick question if you postpone do we need to take public comment on the postponement.

936
01:36:56.580 --> 01:37:00.630
james murez: No okay so there's a motion to postpone.

937
01:37:03.780 --> 01:37:04.950
james murez: let's take about.

938
01:37:05.310 --> 01:37:06.180
daff: The we have a second.

939
01:37:06.270 --> 01:37:07.200
melissa diner: God and most into.

940
01:37:07.620 --> 01:37:09.060
Ivan: Like you have a second.

941
01:37:11.040 --> 01:37:12.390
Ivan: I didn't hear a second.

942
01:37:12.660 --> 01:37:13.140
Mike Bravo: Second.

943
01:37:13.560 --> 01:37:15.660
melissa diner: I cycle, who made the motion.

944
01:37:16.740 --> 01:37:17.070
daff: Like.

945
01:37:18.480 --> 01:37:22.110
melissa diner: who's making the motion to postpone and then the second thing it.

946
01:37:22.410 --> 01:37:25.410
daff: daffodils making the motion to postpone and I believe my executive.

947
01:37:25.440 --> 01:37:26.820
melissa diner: Correct thanks.

948
01:37:27.720 --> 01:37:28.110
OK.

949
01:37:30.510 --> 01:37:33.270
james murez: So now let's take a roll call, please yep.

950
01:37:33.390 --> 01:37:38.250
melissa diner: I got a copy and paste with your roll call boat so give me one moment.

951
01:37:38.310 --> 01:37:39.000
james murez: Not a problem.

952
01:37:43.980 --> 01:37:44.580
melissa diner: Jim.

953
01:37:44.940 --> 01:37:49.230
melissa diner: Yes, that's it Oh yes, I vote yes NICO.

954
01:37:50.280 --> 01:37:50.550
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

955
01:37:50.970 --> 01:37:52.470
Andrea Boccaletti: Andrea yes.

956
01:37:52.740 --> 01:37:53.640
melissa diner: Like bravo.

957
01:37:54.210 --> 01:37:55.800
melissa diner: Yes, Ali.

958
01:37:57.780 --> 01:37:58.590
james murez: For someone up.

959
01:37:59.250 --> 01:37:59.910
Jason.

960
01:38:01.020 --> 01:38:01.530
Jason Sugars: Yes.

961
01:38:01.830 --> 01:38:05.460
melissa diner: Thanks and what time did you arrive Jason so I can notate it.

962
01:38:07.080 --> 01:38:08.640
Jason Sugars: I would say about a.

963
01:38:09.570 --> 01:38:10.230
Jason Sugars: 28.

964
01:38:10.920 --> 01:38:11.460
Thank you.

965
01:38:12.840 --> 01:38:16.050
james murez: And so the the vote on that was 800.

966
01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:17.280
james murez: Motion yeah.

967
01:38:17.760 --> 01:38:19.530
melissa diner: i'm i'm taking minutes Jim.

968
01:38:19.770 --> 01:38:26.370
james murez: Okay Well, no, but i've been i've been saying you need to say what the actual vote was each time and, since you haven't been saying it i've been trying to help so.

969
01:38:26.580 --> 01:38:33.210
melissa diner: it's actually not thought an email, just to clarify that from Friday today and that's actually not what he outlined about the Minutes but.

970
01:38:33.420 --> 01:38:40.710
melissa diner: If he can quote where because you know even wants to quote where and everything which I would love I think that's his job, not mine that's great.

971
01:38:41.250 --> 01:38:55.620
james murez: Sorry now we're on to Item number six consideration and approval of the August 17 draft board agenda, so if everyone could turn their pages, I can share the screen if everybody would like to see.

972
01:38:56.820 --> 01:39:00.870
james murez: Where we are let's see where Am I sharing this one here.

973
01:39:03.780 --> 01:39:06.060
james murez: Okay, so now can everybody see that.

974
01:39:07.860 --> 01:39:09.630
james murez: Yes, that's a yes, yes.

975
01:39:10.170 --> 01:39:11.130
daff: yeah Thank you.

976
01:39:11.220 --> 01:39:14.040
james murez: Okay, so we're going to go through all this first part here um.

977
01:39:15.270 --> 01:39:17.850
james murez: I believe the normal routine.

978
01:39:18.870 --> 01:39:31.710
james murez: That the normal routine is to approve a group of the normal things that we always do at the beginning of every meeting so like the roll call.

979
01:39:33.270 --> 01:39:34.230
james murez: So.

980
01:39:34.380 --> 01:39:42.030
melissa diner: I include as many as we want, we usually do it all the way through like seven Q expenditure items, then we go right up.

981
01:39:42.660 --> 01:39:46.110
Ivan: Right, you can go from item one.

982
01:39:46.650 --> 01:39:50.970
Ivan: Until 755 be.

983
01:39:52.170 --> 01:39:52.920
Ivan: one to five.

984
01:39:53.310 --> 01:39:55.230
melissa diner: If you want let's keep it rolling.

985
01:39:55.950 --> 01:40:03.300
james murez: Okay well So could I entertain a motion to approve items one through five be.

986
01:40:04.710 --> 01:40:05.340
daff: Some of.

987
01:40:06.420 --> 01:40:06.840
daff: death.

988
01:40:07.920 --> 01:40:09.270
james murez: And do we have a second.

989
01:40:15.330 --> 01:40:15.570
melissa diner: well.

990
01:40:16.710 --> 01:40:17.130
melissa diner: i'm.

991
01:40:17.460 --> 01:40:19.650
melissa diner: NICO NICO great.

992
01:40:21.300 --> 01:40:28.590
daff: We have to public comments or three Eva you'll be the last commenter now i'm Helen go ahead.

993
01:40:30.300 --> 01:40:38.370
Helen Fallon: I like clarification on item five a the lapd has been providing you know reports on statistics.

994
01:40:38.790 --> 01:40:48.270
Helen Fallon: And they were coming to public health and safety, and we were being very careful to record all that information and that hasn't been the habit when they were reporting.

995
01:40:48.870 --> 01:41:06.510
Helen Fallon: At the board level and those statistics have been appreciated by the Community, so I would like a commitment by this board that the Secretary is going to get those statistics and include them in her minutes and so that they don't just get lost in the report, we had to be.

996
01:41:06.540 --> 01:41:17.310
Helen Fallon: asked the smoke, you know, like double check with them that we were getting the right numbers, so please don't have that just disappear, you know into the void of minutes.

997
01:41:18.540 --> 01:41:20.490
james murez: So definitely let me know respond to this.

998
01:41:20.670 --> 01:41:29.040
daff: No yeah Thank you, I feel great comment and we'll take it in, and I think we're already thinking about it, Robin go ahead.

999
01:41:31.500 --> 01:41:40.860
RobinRudisill: Is Robin router so i'd like to suggest request that the public comment on items done on the agenda be moved to this section of the meeting.

1000
01:41:41.310 --> 01:41:52.380
RobinRudisill: I know you said in the past that some agencies are doing public comment at the end of the meetings what might work for maybe City Council where the meetings are during the day.

1001
01:41:52.860 --> 01:41:58.620
RobinRudisill: But when it's put at the end of the meeting and it's close to 11pm.

1002
01:41:59.310 --> 01:42:03.570
RobinRudisill: that's just not fair to the public, I think you need to put it up front, so people can.

1003
01:42:03.900 --> 01:42:15.120
RobinRudisill: share what they want to share the beginning of the meeting, you know, find a find a way to control it, but please don't put it at the very end you're going to lose public input and that's one of the most important things the Venice neighborhood Council.

1004
01:42:15.180 --> 01:42:15.810
is for.

1005
01:42:17.520 --> 01:42:18.180
Thank you.

1006
01:42:19.980 --> 01:42:21.570
daff: i'm Helen fallon go ahead.

1007
01:42:25.260 --> 01:42:26.160
Helen Fallon: I already spoke.

1008
01:42:26.580 --> 01:42:32.790
daff: Oh sorry I just assumed Okay, Eva green go ahead, your hand is still up by the way, Helen.

1009
01:42:33.900 --> 01:42:35.790
Eva Greene: hi Okay, can I speak now.

1010
01:42:36.030 --> 01:42:41.550
Eva Greene: Sure okay yeah no I wanted to agree with what Robin said with regards to public comment.

1011
01:42:41.880 --> 01:42:50.310
Eva Greene: I don't know why it's being put at the very end, except that what it does it eliminates public comment from people who want to input and get very tired or elderly.

1012
01:42:50.550 --> 01:42:58.050
Eva Greene: Who cannot stay up that late, who have children, I think it's just wrong, and it is a big part of the La City Council they put it at the very beginning.

1013
01:42:58.560 --> 01:43:06.270
Eva Greene: And you can comment on multiple line items and they don't wait till the very end, they do it at the very beginning, so I think that it's simply wrong.

1014
01:43:06.750 --> 01:43:21.810
Eva Greene: And that's my comment, thank you, however, with regards to health and safety, I do think that it should be reported by public health safety committee because it always take so much time during dnc meetings and we don't need to just keep staying up until one in the morning, thank you.

1015
01:43:23.400 --> 01:43:24.870
daff: Darrell go ahead, thanks.

1016
01:43:31.980 --> 01:43:33.570
daff: dahlia our last comment or go ahead.

1017
01:43:35.580 --> 01:43:45.600
Darryl DuFay: i'm sorry I I support bringing the public comment forward and if you're not doing that, would you please move Freddie to the end of the agenda.

1018
01:43:50.010 --> 01:43:51.780
Darryl DuFay: That speaks for itself, thank you.

1019
01:43:52.860 --> 01:43:55.620
Darryl DuFay: Thank you know in oh.

1020
01:43:58.770 --> 01:44:00.690
daff: i'm sorry if I cut you off girl i'm.

1021
01:44:02.850 --> 01:44:03.300
daff: Go ahead.

1022
01:44:05.970 --> 01:44:07.410
james murez: they're all finished what you were saying, please.

1023
01:44:07.650 --> 01:44:20.880
Darryl DuFay: Okay, no I I am finished I just know, there was the public is so important to be heard, and I know we have our puppeteer etc, who drives me crazy but that's Okay, I was a short trip.

1024
01:44:22.620 --> 01:44:33.420
Darryl DuFay: that we need to listen, we need to listen to the public, however, we can and the closer, it is to the beginning, the more the more important, yes, thank you bye.

1025
01:44:40.860 --> 01:44:44.610
daff: If I was the process of moving the public comments at the end of the meeting i'm going to start.

1026
01:44:47.040 --> 01:45:06.570
daff: Just remember that everyone can comment, the whole meeting on everything on the agenda, so all we are moving as public items, not on the agenda, everyone also can and often does email, the entire board their public comment prior to the meetings, what we are working toward is.

1027
01:45:08.310 --> 01:45:15.720
daff: Trying to set up a system where people email their comments in ahead of time and where we are not sort of besieged by.

1028
01:45:17.400 --> 01:45:29.040
daff: Just people venting or zoom bombers or things like that to that end and we're also trying to make the meetings shorter faster and more productive.

1029
01:45:29.760 --> 01:45:41.490
daff: So that we keep our engagement, you know we have a loop matter at one in the morning there's just nobody hearing it and I get that someone may have a public comment that they think is important but what's on the agenda is important as well.

1030
01:45:42.060 --> 01:45:50.130
daff: So the idea was to take these issues, the substantive issues up front, obviously, if someone really feel strongly about something.

1031
01:45:51.000 --> 01:46:01.830
daff: They do email us anyway, and we are actually working to build a specific dedicated public comment email address, so that people can email us beforehand.

1032
01:46:02.400 --> 01:46:07.620
daff: And anyone that has a substantive comment, we can figure out a way to get it in, or maybe even get it on the agenda before the meeting.

1033
01:46:08.250 --> 01:46:19.470
daff: Right, because we do have some time to do that, so, but we all can admit here i've been that person I know people on have been that person where they're just getting on public comment on is not on the agenda to just.

1034
01:46:19.980 --> 01:46:25.080
daff: A spouse something and we're really trying to keep the mode meetings focused on the substance in hand.

1035
01:46:25.980 --> 01:46:32.190
daff: And again, if someone has an emergency comment just call one of the board members and we will encourage this as we go.

1036
01:46:32.640 --> 01:46:38.070
daff: And we'll see if we can get it on but lots of Councils do it this way lots of cities do it this way.

1037
01:46:38.820 --> 01:46:44.550
daff: This is not an effort to silence anyone or to marginalize anyone or to say the public comment is not important.

1038
01:46:45.090 --> 01:46:49.410
daff: it's incredibly important, everyone should know to reach out to us at all times about anything.

1039
01:46:49.860 --> 01:46:55.680
daff: But I personally feel and i'm the one that really pushed for this so i'm going to own this now and let's try it for a little bit.

1040
01:46:56.130 --> 01:47:09.060
daff: But we also have a whole bunch of stakeholders at each meeting that sit and wait through this stuff and you know, there are things here and there, and talking to the city that we can cut to make the meetings faster so that's my pitch for it.

1041
01:47:10.140 --> 01:47:16.770
daff: it's you know it's not because the public's not important, but again we're talking about items, not on the agenda.

1042
01:47:17.550 --> 01:47:26.820
daff: Okay, so everyone still can come and comment on every single item on the agenda and we have people that comment on every single item on the agenda, even if they don't have anything really say.

1043
01:47:28.020 --> 01:47:28.590
daff: So.

1044
01:47:29.610 --> 01:47:42.390
daff: There does seem to be a lot of opportunity for public comment, and when you go back and look through previous meetings, there really aren't a lot of comments that are public comment on items, not on the agenda from people that haven't been commenting the entire meeting.

1045
01:47:43.710 --> 01:47:50.700
daff: So with that I support this obviously putting it this way, I do think the issue that someone raised about moving Freddie down.

1046
01:47:51.600 --> 01:47:58.680
daff: we've got some workplace issues like we can't afford to go to the very end because he's a city employee and there are some timing issues that we have to deal with.

1047
01:47:59.340 --> 01:48:07.200
daff: But I suppose to Friday could also submit a written report that someone quickly breeds to the board, and we can just dispense with that whole part.

1048
01:48:08.970 --> 01:48:12.390
daff: So I throw that out there for the Boards consideration thanks.

1049
01:48:13.080 --> 01:48:16.830
james murez: I would, I would also like to to do.

1050
01:48:18.270 --> 01:48:25.230
james murez: What what daffodil was saying, but I just want to to to make it very clear when I ran for office.

1051
01:48:25.830 --> 01:48:32.070
james murez: One of the things that I very clearly heard and I spoke to the amount of time that individuals would be given.

1052
01:48:32.700 --> 01:48:46.260
james murez: Like tonight I didn't keep a stopwatch going saying everybody only gets 30 seconds I think that you know if this point, you know we're we're working together, we want to try and improve the Community everybody should have the opportunity to get off their mind what they have on.

1053
01:48:46.260 --> 01:48:54.120
james murez: The line, and I would like to give them, you know as much time as it takes them to get their their point out, I don't want people to be repetitious about what they're saying.

1054
01:48:54.420 --> 01:49:00.960
james murez: I don't want to hear the same people saying you know, the same thing as the person right before them, but if people have new and creative thoughts.

1055
01:49:01.230 --> 01:49:13.080
james murez: I very much want to support that and I think the only way we can give people ample time is to not have it at the beginning of the meeting and I don't want to do with the last board did, which was give everybody 30 seconds.

1056
01:49:14.130 --> 01:49:15.720
james murez: Mike you have your hand up you want to speak.

1057
01:49:16.320 --> 01:49:19.680
Mike Bravo: yeah i'm I understand a lot of blood daffodils same.

1058
01:49:19.980 --> 01:49:23.520
Ivan: gym tonight the the motion on the floor.

1059
01:49:25.530 --> 01:49:27.180
Ivan: One through five be.

1060
01:49:27.570 --> 01:49:28.230
james murez: And we're.

1061
01:49:28.800 --> 01:49:30.060
Ivan: not part of the motion.

1062
01:49:30.270 --> 01:49:45.390
james murez: yeah it actually is i'm sorry I haven't if we wanted to move another item up here and fit it in it comes farther down, but if you fall in between one and five, so it is very much part, thank you for your interruption Mike please continue.

1063
01:49:46.200 --> 01:49:47.880
Mike Bravo: Thanks, so I want to say you know.

1064
01:49:47.910 --> 01:49:54.360
Mike Bravo: I understand what you're saying i'm thinking until we actually have all those mechanisms, she was mentioning in place.

1065
01:49:55.020 --> 01:50:00.570
Mike Bravo: We should put it back at the what I think is behind the treasure treasure freeport more or less is where was that a belief.

1066
01:50:01.170 --> 01:50:10.050
Mike Bravo: And there's also there's an intention there's impact, you know, and I know a lot of us don't mean to rub our constituents to wrong, where the public the wrong way but.

1067
01:50:10.590 --> 01:50:20.760
Mike Bravo: One thing from certain from the last meeting minutes mean is that the public really wants that public comments and non geminis public comment back on its original spot, which is, I believe raptor the treasure.

1068
01:50:22.020 --> 01:50:27.480
Mike Bravo: testers report, I believe, so i'd like to make a motion to move the non denies it.

1069
01:50:28.470 --> 01:50:29.010
Mike Bravo: Back to.

1070
01:50:29.250 --> 01:50:37.890
james murez: You mikey can't make a motion to do that at this point we have another motion already on the floor, you could create a substitute motion or something what's it called Ivan.

1071
01:50:40.050 --> 01:50:40.410
james murez: Ivan.

1072
01:50:41.010 --> 01:50:44.280
melissa diner: Well, we can just also do it when we get to that item.

1073
01:50:47.610 --> 01:50:48.210
james murez: Okay.

1074
01:50:49.620 --> 01:50:53.130
Ivan: that's what would be appropriate, is when you get down to the item.

1075
01:50:53.580 --> 01:50:54.660
Mike Bravo: Or can I meant emotion.

1076
01:50:54.690 --> 01:50:56.670
Ivan: Talk about moving it up, if you want.

1077
01:50:56.820 --> 01:51:07.050
james murez: Okay, so that's what we'll do okay Mike when we get to that when we get to the public comment motion will let you make your motion to move it forward so right now we're talking about one through five approving them as their stated.

1078
01:51:10.530 --> 01:51:15.240
james murez: We had emotion, we had a second Melissa and take the boat nobody else has any comments.

1079
01:51:18.540 --> 01:51:20.010
james murez: Oh Andreas did you have a comment.

1080
01:51:21.630 --> 01:51:33.840
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes, so does that mean that so we're not discussing whether the public comment, the stakeholder public comment is included in that one through five now so.

1081
01:51:34.200 --> 01:51:38.430
james murez: yeah I think Mike was making the point that it actually comes after six or seven.

1082
01:51:38.820 --> 01:51:45.300
james murez: Okay that's it doesn't fall into one through five so we're going to go forward with one through five and then, when we get there we'll take it up.

1083
01:51:45.570 --> 01:51:45.870
Great.

1084
01:51:48.060 --> 01:51:48.840
james murez: go over your head.

1085
01:51:49.200 --> 01:52:00.300
melissa diner: yeah I mean I also got a note from Friday today for the Minutes That said, I have to record the names, but I don't have to roll call i'll do it, but like this is new.

1086
01:52:00.600 --> 01:52:01.230
james murez: James.

1087
01:52:01.260 --> 01:52:03.210
melissa diner: Melissa just i'm not gonna fight with you, I don't.

1088
01:52:03.210 --> 01:52:03.630
melissa diner: Care let's.

1089
01:52:03.660 --> 01:52:06.390
james murez: Go on, James the meeting is being recorded.

1090
01:52:06.960 --> 01:52:07.530
james murez: cool.

1091
01:52:07.830 --> 01:52:21.420
melissa diner: Okay, I don't care what this is a committee that no one else has and that you could override at any moment all of these votes, in my opinion, are a waste of time because of that, so I just don't think we need to spend tons of time, but great Jim do you vote yes.

1092
01:52:21.600 --> 01:52:26.070
melissa diner: Yes, great daffodil yes, I vote yes.

1093
01:52:28.530 --> 01:52:29.070
melissa diner: NICO.

1094
01:52:30.780 --> 01:52:31.140
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

1095
01:52:32.340 --> 01:52:33.780
melissa diner: Great Andrea.

1096
01:52:37.350 --> 01:52:38.070
melissa diner: Andrea.

1097
01:52:40.620 --> 01:52:41.520
james murez: mute yourself.

1098
01:52:43.170 --> 01:52:44.040
Andrea Boccaletti: Sorry, yes.

1099
01:52:45.900 --> 01:52:46.950
melissa diner: Mike bravo.

1100
01:52:47.310 --> 01:52:48.960
melissa diner: Yes, eileen.

1101
01:52:53.400 --> 01:52:53.790
melissa diner: olly.

1102
01:52:54.210 --> 01:52:55.200
james murez: olly oh.

1103
01:52:55.500 --> 01:52:56.370
daff: Allah yes.

1104
01:52:57.090 --> 01:52:58.890
Jason Sugars: And Jason yes.

1105
01:52:59.790 --> 01:53:00.930
melissa diner: Great okay.

1106
01:53:10.800 --> 01:53:12.840
james murez: So that was 800 Thank you Melissa.

1107
01:53:14.640 --> 01:53:21.120
james murez: And now we're moving on to Item six budget and Finance Committee.

1108
01:53:26.910 --> 01:53:28.350
james murez: We have the.

1109
01:53:28.560 --> 01:53:30.390
daff: Why don't we do the next batch Jim.

1110
01:53:30.750 --> 01:53:37.920
james murez: 666 and six say yeah they're both budget the expenditure report and budget and Finance Committee report.

1111
01:53:38.610 --> 01:53:39.750
daff: And we do more than that.

1112
01:53:39.780 --> 01:53:41.490
daff: I mean, I feel like this is the whole.

1113
01:53:41.550 --> 01:53:43.110
james murez: nope that's as far as we can go.

1114
01:53:46.020 --> 01:53:49.830
daff: So do I hear emotional, I will make a motion to approve those on the agenda.

1115
01:53:51.300 --> 01:53:51.990
james murez: right here a second.

1116
01:53:52.320 --> 01:53:53.940
Andrea Boccaletti: Second, of emotion it's under there.

1117
01:53:55.740 --> 01:53:56.910
james murez: Do we have any public comment.

1118
01:53:59.730 --> 01:54:02.040
james murez: No public comment public comment is close.

1119
01:54:02.280 --> 01:54:06.390
Ivan: to him can change the vote Max to be changed.

1120
01:54:08.730 --> 01:54:11.370
Ivan: The vote, to vote Andrea with the.

1121
01:54:11.400 --> 01:54:12.390
Ivan: floor oh.

1122
01:54:12.870 --> 01:54:22.260
james murez: Yes, thanks correct, thank you, it was that's correct the vote on six eight was 400 this the meeting for this item was held.

1123
01:54:23.430 --> 01:54:37.860
james murez: just prior to this meeting was held at 645 and it was a special meeting because we had problems with getting the report because Andreas did not have access to the city system until they allowed him in which was only.

1124
01:54:39.330 --> 01:54:41.520
james murez: At the end of last week, so we had to.

1125
01:54:43.050 --> 01:54:47.790
james murez: create a new agenda put this on, and this is how it came out, so the boat was 400.

1126
01:54:49.440 --> 01:54:50.490
james murez: Can you can you know.

1127
01:54:50.520 --> 01:54:55.500
melissa diner: I already noted that I do i've done this for five years i'm good, thank you for the reminder.

1128
01:54:57.150 --> 01:54:58.710
melissa diner: Do we have any public comment.

1129
01:55:01.080 --> 01:55:03.180
james murez: yeah I didn't see any so i'm going to close public comment.

1130
01:55:03.570 --> 01:55:05.400
daff: yeah no public comment it's close.

1131
01:55:05.790 --> 01:55:07.140
melissa diner: Okay, can I take a vote.

1132
01:55:07.410 --> 01:55:09.270
melissa diner: Please great Jim.

1133
01:55:09.450 --> 01:55:10.740
melissa diner: Yes, yes.

1134
01:55:11.130 --> 01:55:11.670
daff: Yes.

1135
01:55:11.850 --> 01:55:13.140
melissa diner: I will, yes NICO.

1136
01:55:14.700 --> 01:55:15.030
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

1137
01:55:16.500 --> 01:55:16.950
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

1138
01:55:17.310 --> 01:55:18.090
melissa diner: Mike bravo.

1139
01:55:18.570 --> 01:55:19.950
melissa diner: Yes, Ali.

1140
01:55:21.600 --> 01:55:22.170
james murez: thumbs up.

1141
01:55:23.520 --> 01:55:24.270
melissa diner: And Jason.

1142
01:55:25.050 --> 01:55:26.550
melissa diner: Yes, thanks.

1143
01:55:28.950 --> 01:55:30.540
james murez: OK, the next item.

1144
01:55:32.160 --> 01:55:32.940
james murez: um.

1145
01:55:33.270 --> 01:55:37.830
james murez: I, these are the people that i'm appointing there's no discussion about that.

1146
01:55:38.340 --> 01:55:45.000
melissa diner: We already know who they are, because we discussed them before i'll plug them in, so I think you can batch them unless.

1147
01:55:45.210 --> 01:55:46.200
melissa diner: Know anytime.

1148
01:55:46.380 --> 01:55:51.630
james murez: The the number seven is they're listed in the agenda.

1149
01:55:53.160 --> 01:55:56.370
james murez: they're already all filled in for you, though, you don't have to do anything there.

1150
01:55:56.850 --> 01:55:59.550
melissa diner: you're talking about number 10 number 10 correct.

1151
01:55:59.700 --> 01:56:00.990
james murez: No we're on number seven.

1152
01:56:03.060 --> 01:56:10.500
melissa diner: I just filled in the finance item that you are talking about budget and finance that's number nine on what i'm looking at.

1153
01:56:12.660 --> 01:56:13.710
james murez: yeah you're looking at the wrong.

1154
01:56:13.800 --> 01:56:15.270
melissa diner: Time on what i'm.

1155
01:56:15.510 --> 01:56:32.130
melissa diner: been sent, and the only thing I have, so why is it number nine and oh it's because your numbers, maybe are wrong or it's missing something or remembered whatever it's number seven after budget and finance I don't care or that's fine we're on number 10 standing committee chairs.

1156
01:56:32.310 --> 01:56:35.460
james murez: Though we're actually yeah we're on the item numbers seven.

1157
01:56:35.520 --> 01:56:35.820
james murez: I think.

1158
01:56:35.850 --> 01:56:44.430
melissa diner: i'll figure it out, whatever I had to deal with your new way of doing thanks it doesn't matter I got it but we're on standing committee chairs the numbers don't matter.

1159
01:56:45.660 --> 01:56:52.260
daff: So all suggested, when we look at these agendas, we try to go back to the ones that are actually posted on the website.

1160
01:56:52.290 --> 01:56:54.180
james murez: and supporting documents yeah.

1161
01:56:54.240 --> 01:57:05.370
melissa diner: Well, I have an editable version and he changed the way we did everything for the last five years, there will be no complications on this i'm having an issue, because this is brand new.

1162
01:57:05.640 --> 01:57:12.150
melissa diner: The way we've done this for the last five years, so that's why there's any type of discrepancy right now okay.

1163
01:57:12.180 --> 01:57:17.100
james murez: Thank you so i'll call out the agenda numbers, then you can you can you can keep up with them, how should.

1164
01:57:17.130 --> 01:57:21.750
melissa diner: I don't need any agenda numbers i'm good we're on standing committee chairs correct.

1165
01:57:22.020 --> 01:57:28.890
james murez: Well selection of liaison and organizational representatives.

1166
01:57:28.950 --> 01:57:33.180
melissa diner: So, then you sent me the wrong draft, and that is somewhere.

1167
01:57:33.330 --> 01:57:36.510
james murez: else I don't know what to say it was posted online.

1168
01:57:36.720 --> 01:57:46.320
james murez: Everybody else's looking what's online and all of a sudden, you asked me to send you something in the 11th hour at the 12th hour and I tried to do that, please work with us.

1169
01:57:46.320 --> 01:57:54.420
melissa diner: When I don't have an editable document which will never happen again because we'll do it in Google docs, then I can't do my job okay.

1170
01:57:54.780 --> 01:57:55.380
daff: So I need to.

1171
01:57:56.850 --> 01:57:57.390
daff: mute you.

1172
01:57:57.510 --> 01:58:04.590
daff: Like I got it, we have an agenda it's online go to the one online just take notes, I mean this is this is too much.

1173
01:58:04.710 --> 01:58:06.300
daff: yep okay.

1174
01:58:06.390 --> 01:58:08.820
melissa diner: So now we're on to as that and that item.

1175
01:58:09.240 --> 01:58:10.290
melissa diner: number seven is a.

1176
01:58:10.290 --> 01:58:12.540
daff: Collection of liaisons and organization.

1177
01:58:12.540 --> 01:58:15.810
melissa diner: Representatives raw great perfect.

1178
01:58:17.730 --> 01:58:22.530
james murez: So i've been I have a quick question is this something of a motion.

1179
01:58:23.280 --> 01:58:25.440
Ivan: No, no, I would take this.

1180
01:58:25.740 --> 01:58:28.050
Ivan: And you just want to announce it right.

1181
01:58:28.260 --> 01:58:28.980
james murez: Right, this is just.

1182
01:58:29.400 --> 01:58:31.170
Ivan: The chairs are things we.

1183
01:58:31.980 --> 01:58:34.050
Ivan: I would take it and move it on the president's.

1184
01:58:34.050 --> 01:58:34.680
Report.

1185
01:58:35.970 --> 01:58:39.090
james murez: Oh OK, we already has that one I.

1186
01:58:39.150 --> 01:58:40.230
Ivan: love to write just.

1187
01:58:40.470 --> 01:58:43.470
Ivan: You know move it back on the President report.

1188
01:58:46.560 --> 01:58:48.660
james murez: Actually, we have not done, the Presidents report.

1189
01:58:48.810 --> 01:58:49.710
Ivan: yeah we did we.

1190
01:58:50.850 --> 01:58:51.540
daff: Number three.

1191
01:58:51.630 --> 01:58:53.940
james murez: yeah so we're going to move this up to number three Melissa.

1192
01:58:55.050 --> 01:58:58.770
melissa diner: Both 11 and the item I was discussing or just 11.

1193
01:58:58.770 --> 01:59:07.170
james murez: Oh 717 so I don't want I mean you guys whenever I have to look at what i'm editing like I can't look at a PDF to to help me out here.

1194
01:59:07.350 --> 01:59:14.400
melissa diner: The liaisons and organizations, you want to move up and then also the standing committee chairs, do you want to announce their to that's what i'm asking.

1195
01:59:14.520 --> 01:59:15.450
Ivan: No, no.

1196
01:59:15.480 --> 01:59:18.600
melissa diner: No right then just 11 perfect Thank you so much.

1197
01:59:18.780 --> 01:59:19.980
daff: No just seven.

1198
01:59:20.280 --> 01:59:28.830
melissa diner: I got seven honestly I cannot do it the way you guys are saying I understand what you're saying I understand what i'm saying this is what Jim sent me I got it.

1199
01:59:32.850 --> 01:59:44.310
daff: Okay, I just want to make clear, we all have to work off what is online if what your email that you got is not what's online you either have to take notes or reach out again and ask for that email.

1200
01:59:47.460 --> 01:59:48.000
daff: um.

1201
01:59:49.710 --> 01:59:50.190
Ivan: let's go.

1202
01:59:51.570 --> 01:59:51.780
Ivan: To.

1203
01:59:55.170 --> 01:59:58.470
Ivan: The next item is is general consent calendar.

1204
01:59:59.640 --> 02:00:01.680
Ivan: and emotional have that on the agenda.

1205
02:00:02.790 --> 02:00:05.850
Mike Bravo: When do I get to insert my emotion for the.

1206
02:00:05.940 --> 02:00:06.600
Ivan: X and the blade.

1207
02:00:06.870 --> 02:00:07.170
back.

1208
02:00:08.970 --> 02:00:09.510
Ivan: comments.

1209
02:00:10.740 --> 02:00:27.360
daff: will get there let's see what's number seven selections and liaisons of organizational representatives, we have a motion to move number seven up on the agenda to number three under the Presidents report and announcements, I will make that motion, we have a second.

1210
02:00:27.690 --> 02:00:28.260
Mike Bravo: i'll second.

1211
02:00:29.610 --> 02:00:30.810
daff: Okay, Michael second.

1212
02:00:32.010 --> 02:00:35.520
daff: We have public comment Helen fallon go ahead.

1213
02:00:36.780 --> 02:00:47.700
Helen Fallon: Yes, I think i've asked for it already, but I would like to know under what authority are these exclusively the appointments by the Chair.

1214
02:00:48.330 --> 02:00:57.960
Helen Fallon: I thought they had to be ratified by the committee it's one thing for the chairman to offer appointments, but it seems they serve for the pleasure of the whole board.

1215
02:00:58.380 --> 02:01:13.830
Helen Fallon: So under what authority were in the bylaws I haven't found it certainly isn't a standing roles that are a big mess Is this a a sole responsibility of the Chair make these appointments they serve they serve on behalf.

1216
02:01:15.750 --> 02:01:18.960
daff: Thank you Helen i'm Lisa go ahead and you're the last public comment.

1217
02:01:22.860 --> 02:01:24.600
Lisa Redmond: i'm Melissa.

1218
02:01:34.380 --> 02:01:34.980
james murez: yeah here you.

1219
02:01:35.370 --> 02:01:38.370
daff: Go ahead sorry I was trying to meet myself accidentally muted you.

1220
02:01:39.540 --> 02:01:40.140
Lisa Redmond: I was.

1221
02:01:40.260 --> 02:01:41.190
daff: badly said in a.

1222
02:01:41.250 --> 02:01:46.920
Lisa Redmond: comment to you know our girlfriend Melissa and that I know, things are difficult sometimes but.

1223
02:01:47.460 --> 02:01:58.830
Lisa Redmond: You know your volunteer and you don't have to do this if you don't want to, but every month you come back more and more dripping with hate with every moment of your position here so.

1224
02:01:59.310 --> 02:02:08.940
Lisa Redmond: it's just making it very difficult for all of us that are here online stakeholders in time that it's just we don't need all this difficulty.

1225
02:02:10.950 --> 02:02:11.790
Lisa Redmond: voice, thank you.

1226
02:02:15.960 --> 02:02:17.580
Ivan: Okay, Jim before we.

1227
02:02:17.580 --> 02:02:21.720
daff: leave a comment is closed all right go ahead.

1228
02:02:22.200 --> 02:02:23.910
Ivan: Before we leave this item.

1229
02:02:25.980 --> 02:02:30.960
Ivan: We got email, we got from Freddie about civic university that.

1230
02:02:32.100 --> 02:02:39.900
Ivan: Point five up to five people you want to put this here do you want to wait till new business and just make it a separate motion.

1231
02:02:40.020 --> 02:02:42.480
james murez: Now let's just add it to this and we'll figure out who in.

1232
02:02:42.960 --> 02:02:45.600
Ivan: The difference, though, is the Board has to vote on this one.

1233
02:02:46.530 --> 02:02:49.050
james murez: So Oh, then we can't put it with this one.

1234
02:02:49.080 --> 02:02:52.200
Ivan: So we can yeah all right let's what i'll bring it up again later.

1235
02:02:56.460 --> 02:02:57.810
daff: Jim we have a minute just one.

1236
02:02:58.230 --> 02:03:04.740
melissa diner: minute, since you have the thing and i'll just check out because honestly i'm done like I don't have what I need to do my job.

1237
02:03:04.740 --> 02:03:05.730
james murez: So I just.

1238
02:03:06.480 --> 02:03:13.650
melissa diner: want to take minutes for the rest of the meeting, then you can do it because i've never had this problem in five years, never once.

1239
02:03:13.740 --> 02:03:17.700
melissa diner: was not on this item, the second copy of it in a word, Doc.

1240
02:03:18.420 --> 02:03:25.770
james murez: All you have to do is open it and look at what I just sent you I sent you a second copy of the same thing again and the numbers are correct, because I opened it and look.

1241
02:03:27.750 --> 02:03:29.700
james murez: I think the first one, I sent you was incorrect.

1242
02:03:29.760 --> 02:03:42.780
melissa diner: But I think you should just do it because, then you can take accurate minutes and understand what i'm dealing with right now to try and take accurate minutes and then also listen to all the like minutiae comments on everything.

1243
02:03:43.080 --> 02:03:50.760
melissa diner: and personal attacks, I think you should just do it for this one see how fun, it is, and then i'll come back the next meeting when it's right.

1244
02:03:53.190 --> 02:03:53.970
melissa diner: You want to do that.

1245
02:03:54.210 --> 02:03:57.060
melissa diner: No okay I don't need that because i'm.

1246
02:03:57.150 --> 02:04:02.490
melissa diner: i'm so annoyed this is nap this icon is never like this, so.

1247
02:04:04.590 --> 02:04:15.180
daff: So we have a motion on the floor number to move number seven up to number three, we have a second we've had public comment, and it seems like there's not a lot of discussion on the merits um can we call the vote.

1248
02:04:21.030 --> 02:04:22.200
daff: Well, said, you want to call the vote.

1249
02:04:24.930 --> 02:04:29.100
melissa diner: i'm getting my copy and paste and then i'll call the James.

1250
02:04:29.580 --> 02:04:30.120
Yes.

1251
02:04:31.770 --> 02:04:33.870
melissa diner: Yes, I will yes NICO.

1252
02:04:36.600 --> 02:04:37.170
melissa diner: NICO.

1253
02:04:37.380 --> 02:04:38.310
james murez: He had his thumb up.

1254
02:04:39.150 --> 02:04:41.730
melissa diner: And thumbs up to is not a normal thing.

1255
02:04:42.420 --> 02:04:43.980
melissa diner: We don't Thank you Andrea.

1256
02:04:45.420 --> 02:04:49.020
Andrea Boccaletti: i'm not sure we're voting on some i'm standing I mean i'm confused.

1257
02:04:52.980 --> 02:04:53.760
melissa diner: Mike bravo.

1258
02:04:54.270 --> 02:04:56.040
melissa diner: Yes, Ali been.

1259
02:04:57.870 --> 02:04:59.790
james murez: She said yes, it has your thumb up.

1260
02:05:02.880 --> 02:05:04.350
melissa diner: And Jason checkers.

1261
02:05:10.350 --> 02:05:12.630
melissa diner: So to abstentions chicks yes.

1262
02:05:13.650 --> 02:05:14.820
james murez: Who were the two extensions.

1263
02:05:16.290 --> 02:05:18.870
melissa diner: to people that just have seen Andrea analogy.

1264
02:05:20.040 --> 02:05:20.670
james murez: or she's always.

1265
02:05:20.700 --> 02:05:22.860
james murez: enjoyed what did yes.

1266
02:05:22.890 --> 02:05:30.420
melissa diner: She had her thought well she didn't vote yeah she thumbs up so Ali voted yes great done Andrea have sent abstain that's it.

1267
02:05:32.100 --> 02:05:33.780
james murez: Oh 701.

1268
02:05:35.670 --> 02:05:36.300
daff: Yes.

1269
02:05:37.020 --> 02:05:37.440
james murez: Thank you.

1270
02:05:38.160 --> 02:05:41.280
daff: Okay Jeff can send it to me on the board agenda.

1271
02:05:41.730 --> 02:05:47.160
james murez: There I don't believe there are any general consent items at this point, so we can just move on to not.

1272
02:05:47.190 --> 02:05:51.540
Ivan: know, but you need to have that item in the agenda, just in case.

1273
02:05:52.200 --> 02:05:54.990
james murez: Okay, so do we just approve it without it.

1274
02:05:55.380 --> 02:05:58.230
Ivan: approved to have the item on the agenda.

1275
02:05:58.650 --> 02:05:59.220
Ivan: Okay.

1276
02:05:59.970 --> 02:06:03.000
Ivan: You may find down later that you want put items in there.

1277
02:06:04.050 --> 02:06:04.410
Oh.

1278
02:06:05.490 --> 02:06:07.350
james murez: Okay, so do you want to make that motion case.

1279
02:06:08.730 --> 02:06:13.500
daff: I will make the most elusive place number eight on the board and.

1280
02:06:16.950 --> 02:06:18.360
james murez: 71 second please.

1281
02:06:19.710 --> 02:06:19.980
Jason Sugars: Second.

1282
02:06:21.060 --> 02:06:22.170
james murez: That was genius in sugar.

1283
02:06:22.860 --> 02:06:27.060
james murez: state our names when we're doing these things so Melissa can take the note, thank you.

1284
02:06:28.830 --> 02:06:31.290
james murez: Melissa do we have any public comment on this.

1285
02:06:32.730 --> 02:06:33.870
Ivan: No, you don't need public.

1286
02:06:33.870 --> 02:06:37.140
daff: comment no comment on this and we're closing public comment on it.

1287
02:06:37.440 --> 02:06:39.810
james murez: Thank you, Melissa take the boat, please.

1288
02:06:41.040 --> 02:06:41.640
melissa diner: Jim.

1289
02:06:44.550 --> 02:06:45.060
melissa diner: Jim.

1290
02:06:45.630 --> 02:06:47.610
melissa diner: Yes, coffee oh.

1291
02:06:48.180 --> 02:06:48.840
daff: Yes.

1292
02:06:49.080 --> 02:06:50.970
melissa diner: I vote yes me go router men.

1293
02:06:52.050 --> 02:06:52.620
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

1294
02:06:52.950 --> 02:06:53.790
melissa diner: Mike bravo.

1295
02:06:54.330 --> 02:06:56.190
melissa diner: Yes, Jason sugars.

1296
02:06:58.500 --> 02:06:59.040
Jason Sugars: Yes.

1297
02:06:59.490 --> 02:07:00.210
melissa diner: Ali been.

1298
02:07:02.160 --> 02:07:03.780
james murez: She has come up and said yes.

1299
02:07:04.080 --> 02:07:04.320
and

1300
02:07:05.400 --> 02:07:05.910
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

1301
02:07:07.650 --> 02:07:08.490
melissa diner: unanimous.

1302
02:07:12.810 --> 02:07:20.640
james murez: Now we're moving into the loop back items, starting with number nine is Luke pack land use planning committee.

1303
02:07:22.920 --> 02:07:32.070
james murez: 350 was 350 sixth avenue was put on as a placeholder but there was never any content set forward for it, so I guess that's not what we're going to hear.

1304
02:07:35.040 --> 02:07:48.270
james murez: And then let's see 22 okay so 655 was unanimous i'm just looking for projects that had a unanimous vote that could go on consent.

1305
02:07:53.190 --> 02:07:58.320
james murez: TIM motion to approve those two two kids are they also tied.

1306
02:08:02.460 --> 02:08:03.150
to certain.

1307
02:08:04.410 --> 02:08:05.010
To.

1308
02:08:06.420 --> 02:08:06.780
james murez: me.

1309
02:08:07.980 --> 02:08:10.620
james murez: chick room key was another one that had no boat.

1310
02:08:16.200 --> 02:08:16.560
james murez: Right.

1311
02:08:16.680 --> 02:08:28.320
daff: So i'm Jim I think a couple of points of water here 356 Ave, as I understand it from Lou Pack was um continued.

1312
02:08:29.760 --> 02:08:32.400
daff: And we don't have anyone from look back on and I wasn't.

1313
02:08:34.530 --> 02:08:34.890
james murez: on that.

1314
02:08:35.010 --> 02:08:37.770
daff: I don't I don't believe that is supposed to be on this agenda.

1315
02:08:38.040 --> 02:08:45.720
daff: Okay i'm 22 plumbers, the rehearing from last month when we didn't have the documents for the board i'm sorry.

1316
02:08:45.810 --> 02:09:02.520
james murez: Let me interrupt you real quick I just was double checking the boats, so if we wanted to put 655 press more on the consent calendar, it was 500 so that was a unanimous vote by Lou Pack and typically in the past that's what.

1317
02:09:03.600 --> 02:09:13.920
james murez: The previous board did when there was a unanimous vote, unless somebody in the public wanted to pull it off and have the port go through it again.

1318
02:09:15.870 --> 02:09:27.180
james murez: So I think that what I would say is let's put item nine seed fund consent, if I could get a motion for that, and then we could have public comments if anybody wants to.

1319
02:09:28.410 --> 02:09:46.200
daff: Well, why don't we handle all of nine together and let's go through what you want to do so i'm nine a will be not put on the agenda that's going to be moved to whenever it goes back to loop back nine be will go on the agenda is nine a nine see will be moved to consent right.

1320
02:09:47.790 --> 02:09:49.980
daff: 90 will go on the board agenda.

1321
02:09:51.030 --> 02:09:51.930
daff: nine he.

1322
02:09:54.240 --> 02:10:09.060
daff: did not pass loop Pack is being sent directly to the board so that'll go on the agenda i'm nine af did not pass loop hack that is going on the board agenda nine g.

1323
02:10:11.040 --> 02:10:20.550
daff: extensively was heard, for the second time by Lou pack, but I think, for the second time we have neither the rate motion or the documents i'm not quite sure that.

1324
02:10:21.300 --> 02:10:22.170
daff: So it's the way.

1325
02:10:23.130 --> 02:10:26.880
james murez: g was not heard by Lou Pack.

1326
02:10:28.770 --> 02:10:29.880
daff: Okay, so.

1327
02:10:29.940 --> 02:10:37.530
james murez: Roger room key they they chose not to hear it, because the applicant, the person that put it on their agenda was not present.

1328
02:10:38.220 --> 02:10:40.260
james murez: Okay, so that means that it would have to.

1329
02:10:40.260 --> 02:10:40.740
daff: be wrapped.

1330
02:10:40.830 --> 02:10:42.150
james murez: up by the board right.

1331
02:10:42.420 --> 02:10:55.260
daff: OK rock he and I and J all should go on the agenda so really all we're talking about is moving all of nine eight on the agenda, I mean all of nine on the agenda, except for a.

1332
02:10:56.580 --> 02:10:57.000
daff: i'm.

1333
02:10:58.020 --> 02:11:05.370
daff: Not you know, a removing see moving to consent and G removing that's the motion.

1334
02:11:05.910 --> 02:11:10.050
melissa diner: So I just need to know a removing G removing and what else.

1335
02:11:10.770 --> 02:11:12.210
daff: See moving to consent.

1336
02:11:12.660 --> 02:11:13.950
melissa diner: and see the consent okay.

1337
02:11:14.070 --> 02:11:17.400
james murez: yeah a we're removing all together see we're moving to consent.

1338
02:11:17.460 --> 02:11:18.330
melissa diner: I got it I got.

1339
02:11:18.450 --> 02:11:25.530
james murez: Okay, and then did we want to hear G because it wasn't heard that loop, we have no direction.

1340
02:11:26.430 --> 02:11:35.010
daff: So, my understanding is he went to look back twice it came out of loop back twice in unknown condition.

1341
02:11:36.030 --> 02:11:45.330
daff: But I do believe stakeholders in the Community have some time sensitivity on Jay, so we should it outcome discuss whether we move in on.

1342
02:11:49.590 --> 02:11:55.800
daff: Because otherwise you know, there is a chance traditionally we don't always have a board meeting in September.

1343
02:11:56.580 --> 02:12:06.090
daff: we've been discussing with the city, whether we do the retreat in September, like has been done in the past and there's all kinds of issues with that, but my concern about just leaving this off.

1344
02:12:07.290 --> 02:12:14.910
daff: Is that if we do, we may not get it in front of the dnc and time for the stakeholders to get the hearing, they need.

1345
02:12:15.270 --> 02:12:28.860
daff: Which is essentially going to require, then a special dnc meeting, which is going to make us all come out again anyway, so why don't we just put it on and and figure it out when we're all already pre committed to a meeting um so.

1346
02:12:32.640 --> 02:12:38.910
daff: I made the motion to take it off some can put it back on but that's that's what I understand the background to that.

1347
02:12:40.290 --> 02:12:41.370
melissa diner: daffodil.

1348
02:12:41.610 --> 02:12:45.420
melissa diner: Removing a n G and D to consent that's the motion.

1349
02:12:46.290 --> 02:12:56.640
daff: yeah that's the motion I don't need a second on it that's but that's how I started down this path, someone else can make a motion to take off and put it on consistently Gian and we can discuss.

1350
02:12:57.030 --> 02:13:07.770
daff: There are some public comments here, and I believe i'm Tracy park was the original initiator of the project room key issue is on to and i'm sure she's going to want to speak so.

1351
02:13:07.890 --> 02:13:12.540
james murez: Definitely let's let's proceed really do this by make an emotion.

1352
02:13:12.630 --> 02:13:15.630
melissa diner: And then opening she made a motion Someone needs a second.

1353
02:13:16.020 --> 02:13:16.500
james murez: Thank you.

1354
02:13:17.190 --> 02:13:18.240
daff: Second, or not second.

1355
02:13:20.130 --> 02:13:20.400
What.

1356
02:13:21.600 --> 02:13:23.100
melissa diner: someone's second it or not.

1357
02:13:24.240 --> 02:13:24.570
Nico Ruderman: Oh sorry.

1358
02:13:25.530 --> 02:13:26.820
james murez: Thanks, thank you.

1359
02:13:27.210 --> 02:13:32.130
james murez: Now let's let's let's go to public comment i'm.

1360
02:13:32.550 --> 02:13:34.170
daff: Robin yeah go ahead, sorry.

1361
02:13:34.350 --> 02:13:41.490
james murez: It looks like it looks like Erica Morris the last person who have raised their hand well so that's what we'll cut it off okay.

1362
02:13:41.550 --> 02:13:42.390
daff: Go ahead Robin.

1363
02:13:44.220 --> 02:13:55.170
RobinRudisill: Is Robin were to sell first I think there's a mistake on be the vote should be three to zero, because there are two nose not abstentions.

1364
02:13:56.250 --> 02:14:08.940
RobinRudisill: Secondly, I strongly support hearing gee I assume we'll hear from Tracy park about that, but I support that and, lastly, please tell me, this is not the formatting that's going to appear on the board agenda it's.

1365
02:14:10.020 --> 02:14:18.600
RobinRudisill: almost impossible to read in this format it's in the right format on the lipstick agenda, I didn't know if this is because you're using the portal now, which is ridiculous.

1366
02:14:18.870 --> 02:14:34.380
RobinRudisill: We resolve this years ago the lubick chair, provided the lubick portion of the agenda all correctly formatted easy to read, proper links, etc, I wish you would just require that Jim it, because this is a mess it's it's really hard to understand and rain, thank you.

1367
02:14:39.900 --> 02:14:41.520
daff: Thanks Robin Liz right go ahead.

1368
02:14:46.800 --> 02:14:47.640
Elizabeth Wright: motion.

1369
02:14:49.260 --> 02:15:00.960
Elizabeth Wright: documentation is really a missed, but if you do want it on the agenda, please put pick out the motion part and put it, either at the beginning, or the end.

1370
02:15:02.880 --> 02:15:05.730
Elizabeth Wright: The motion part is toward the bottom of the first page.

1371
02:15:12.840 --> 02:15:14.790
daff: Thank you that's very helpful.

1372
02:15:16.680 --> 02:15:17.850
daff: Even green go ahead.

1373
02:15:20.160 --> 02:15:21.840
Eva Greene: agree with what Liz said.

1374
02:15:22.680 --> 02:15:32.370
Eva Greene: And I think that this should be heard, because a lot of people have a lot of concerns about this so it's very important that it be heard, and if you guys are going to go on a retreat.

1375
02:15:32.820 --> 02:15:46.170
Eva Greene: To delay this when people are really worried and concerned about what's going on there, I think, would be a dereliction of duty if you can, if you can hear it to this next meeting, thank you, thank you.

1376
02:15:48.120 --> 02:16:05.040
daff: i'm sorry if you've already spoken also just put your hand down I keep putting someone's hand down, so to speak, and then people keep raising them again, but what it does, is it pumps you up in the queue on the side, and so it bumps other people out.

1377
02:16:06.930 --> 02:16:07.800
daff: And found go ahead.

1378
02:16:10.080 --> 02:16:21.060
Helen Fallon: um yes i'd like to support that you hear G my recollection is the first time I was supposed to be heard, they lost corn, because very facility felt it was more important to go walk his.

1379
02:16:21.060 --> 02:16:27.690
Helen Fallon: dog, so I think this is time sensitive and needs to be heard there's a lot of people are concerned about this issue.

1380
02:16:28.230 --> 02:16:40.920
Helen Fallon: And yeah do clean up how you're posting documents on the agenda, why the Google Doc Dr thing drive everybody crazy you can't find stuff you should have individual.

1381
02:16:41.490 --> 02:16:54.270
Helen Fallon: Documents link to the agenda items so it's clear, so people can see what the whole supporting your shoe behind something is both to put this on the agenda it's respectful towards stakeholders who are so concerned about this.

1382
02:16:56.040 --> 02:16:56.730
daff: Thank you RON.

1383
02:16:57.900 --> 02:17:00.600
daff: And Tracy park go ahead.

1384
02:17:02.430 --> 02:17:09.300
Traci Park: hey i'm just here to present or offer background and context on the remodel motion if you'd like.

1385
02:17:10.590 --> 02:17:13.200
Traci Park: This let me know if and when you want to do that.

1386
02:17:15.480 --> 02:17:18.090
daff: This is your shot go ahead okay.

1387
02:17:18.690 --> 02:17:31.320
Traci Park: Well, I appreciate you guys hearing this For those of you who may not be familiar with this in December of 2020 we city council.

1388
02:17:31.770 --> 02:17:42.210
daff: voted to Tracy Tracy, let me just jump in we're familiar with what ramada INN is the issue here is like whether this goes on the agenda and, frankly, the only reason it wouldn't go on the agenda.

1389
02:17:43.050 --> 02:17:48.720
daff: Is because it wasn't heard properly by Lou pack so we're we're talking about why it should go on the agenda and why the Board should hear it.

1390
02:17:49.020 --> 02:17:54.090
james murez: Did we did we get a red line copy that showed what the changes were from the previous one, that.

1391
02:17:55.320 --> 02:17:56.610
daff: No that's why.

1392
02:17:56.640 --> 02:18:01.560
daff: that's why the default is not to agenda is it because we'd have a secretary.

1393
02:18:03.390 --> 02:18:12.870
Traci Park: So I don't know that a red line copy has been submitted to add calm, I am happy to do that if that would help.

1394
02:18:13.500 --> 02:18:34.950
Traci Park: facilitate further discussion on this or getting it on to the agenda, after it was heard initially in lieu peck where it passed by zero we made some revisions to the motion just to eliminate redundancies, so that when it went to the board, it would be clean.

1395
02:18:36.180 --> 02:18:41.850
Traci Park: And only have the essential pieces to the motion that were necessary.

1396
02:18:43.380 --> 02:18:55.500
Traci Park: So it substantively it's the same it's just a a more refined version that eliminated the redundancy but i'm happy to submit a refined version if that's helpful.

1397
02:18:59.340 --> 02:19:02.310
daff: Okay we'll talk about that and board discussion Erica go ahead.

1398
02:19:04.710 --> 02:19:19.770
Erica Moore: hi this is Erica, I just wanted to say really quick, I actually do like thought you were on the on the loop that call because 358 number eight was tabled because the there wasn't information that was supposed to be presented by the presenter so.

1399
02:19:20.130 --> 02:19:34.290
Erica Moore: That was being continued and and, as far as Jay I think there's a mistake on here because Chris wasn't yes, so I don't know why it's saying that this didn't go through with freedom to.

1400
02:19:36.540 --> 02:19:37.680
Erica Moore: um that's all.

1401
02:19:37.860 --> 02:19:38.370
Erica Moore: I say.

1402
02:19:38.940 --> 02:19:39.750
daff: Thank Thank you.

1403
02:19:43.170 --> 02:19:43.770
daff: So.

1404
02:19:44.850 --> 02:19:49.020
daff: With for discussion i'm just gonna leave it off, because I think I was involved with some of us.

1405
02:19:50.490 --> 02:19:55.410
daff: We put the motions on the agenda as we receive them, so we don't go back and Edit them and.

1406
02:19:57.480 --> 02:19:58.080
daff: But with.

1407
02:19:59.190 --> 02:20:03.720
daff: With this G again i'll reiterate what I said before, which is, I understand how important this is.

1408
02:20:05.850 --> 02:20:15.780
daff: and for me personally and the Community, but I do think we, we have an issue here, where this is anything else, we would not put it on the agenda because procedurally it's not properly before us so.

1409
02:20:16.860 --> 02:20:20.850
daff: I personally like to see it on the agenda, but it, it would be.

1410
02:20:22.020 --> 02:20:26.790
daff: You know at different circumstances is going to look at place and it hasn't been able to come out of it properly.

1411
02:20:27.810 --> 02:20:28.290
daff: and

1412
02:20:29.910 --> 02:20:30.510
daff: that's all I have.

1413
02:20:32.670 --> 02:20:42.630
james murez: So I just looked at the Minutes that were posted there they seem to be a little bit different than what was submitted through the agenda request system for.

1414
02:20:43.980 --> 02:20:44.760
james murez: what's the item.

1415
02:20:46.320 --> 02:20:48.510
james murez: Be what's the other agenda.

1416
02:21:02.940 --> 02:21:03.900
documents.

1417
02:21:06.660 --> 02:21:07.680
daff: I think you know.

1418
02:21:08.970 --> 02:21:14.430
melissa diner: grammatical changes or any of the changes that were submitted and properly after.

1419
02:21:15.390 --> 02:21:26.400
james murez: Its number item be the the the vote on that 22 paloma was three to zero on the.

1420
02:21:27.480 --> 02:21:28.920
james murez: minutes of.

1421
02:21:30.240 --> 02:21:34.260
james murez: Blue pack, whereas in the agenda request system, this was just copied and pasted into here.

1422
02:21:36.300 --> 02:21:38.190
james murez: There must have been a slip up somewhere along the way.

1423
02:21:39.090 --> 02:21:39.450
No.

1424
02:21:40.680 --> 02:21:41.100
james murez: Thank you.

1425
02:21:45.690 --> 02:21:47.400
james murez: Any other comment upon these items.

1426
02:21:48.540 --> 02:21:48.720
Mike Bravo: That.

1427
02:21:49.800 --> 02:21:59.670
Mike Bravo: I just want to add that i'm know for whoever might need it, I do graphic design type setting to so if anybody needs help doing future agendas, or whatever and.

1428
02:22:01.080 --> 02:22:05.820
Mike Bravo: find the big Great Wall of texts, you know offensive i'm here to help so.

1429
02:22:07.470 --> 02:22:08.190
daff: that's awesome.

1430
02:22:09.990 --> 02:22:16.740
james murez: yeah i'll just say that the reason, there are no links there, the reason there is no other information there is because this is how they were submitted.

1431
02:22:17.070 --> 02:22:25.740
james murez: The reason that item a is on there as a placeholder because that's all that was submitted so so when the requests come into the agenda request system.

1432
02:22:26.190 --> 02:22:41.970
james murez: I feel it's very, very important that all of those requests get posted for everybody to see and it's the responsibility of the person submitting it to make a coherent and, in this case, this is how it came from loop back.

1433
02:22:43.710 --> 02:22:45.330
james murez: There was no editing done whatsoever.

1434
02:22:48.090 --> 02:22:55.080
james murez: let's keep moving forward, do we want to take a boat on these items oh Eric is still on here as a panelist or something like.

1435
02:22:56.640 --> 02:22:59.280
daff: Erica I think put her hand up after we closed bubble comment.

1436
02:22:59.760 --> 02:23:00.030
Oh.

1437
02:23:06.330 --> 02:23:07.470
james murez: Okay um.

1438
02:23:08.850 --> 02:23:17.400
james murez: So we have a motion do we have we have we had a motion, and we had a second we're going to make these for radical changes as Melissa said moving forward.

1439
02:23:20.070 --> 02:23:25.860
james murez: Do we want to have any more discussion about what we're going to do with it, and I think we just go ahead and put it on and what the board deal with it.

1440
02:23:27.990 --> 02:23:28.260
james murez: So.

1441
02:23:28.320 --> 02:23:33.510
daff: I think we should he loses comment and just put her on the motion.

1442
02:23:34.200 --> 02:23:36.120
james murez: yeah I think that's probably a good idea.

1443
02:23:37.080 --> 02:23:53.610
daff: And so that would significantly truncate the text and I think make it probably a lot easier for the board to digest and then hopefully Tracy or someone with her can come to the dnc meeting and actually present all of the things that have been aware as causes.

1444
02:23:55.140 --> 02:23:59.820
james murez: Right, I think, when we yeah I think that makes perfect sense I agree.

1445
02:24:02.700 --> 02:24:03.180
james murez: i'm.

1446
02:24:04.440 --> 02:24:05.550
melissa diner: cool Can I take a bow.

1447
02:24:06.540 --> 02:24:08.190
james murez: yeah I think so go hey.

1448
02:24:08.400 --> 02:24:09.660
james murez: Jim yes.

1449
02:24:10.080 --> 02:24:10.680
Fidel.

1450
02:24:13.590 --> 02:24:16.200
daff: unmute that yes, i'm trying sorry yes.

1451
02:24:16.440 --> 02:24:18.270
melissa diner: I will, yes me go.

1452
02:24:19.290 --> 02:24:22.590
Nico Ruderman: For a vote, I just want to clarify that we're voting to keep Gian.

1453
02:24:22.920 --> 02:24:24.330
melissa diner: erratic like.

1454
02:24:24.570 --> 02:24:24.930
Nico Ruderman: I said.

1455
02:24:25.770 --> 02:24:32.040
melissa diner: No, no, the the motion on the floor is removing a and G and C to consent that's the motion on the floor.

1456
02:24:34.410 --> 02:24:37.560
james murez: A we removing a.

1457
02:24:39.300 --> 02:24:41.340
james murez: Word say it again we're see.

1458
02:24:41.610 --> 02:24:42.690
Nico Ruderman: Only emotion.

1459
02:24:42.690 --> 02:24:50.520
melissa diner: I have on the floor currently unless someone's made a friendly Member which we typically have done in the past.

1460
02:24:50.670 --> 02:24:54.030
melissa diner: is moving n G and C to consent.

1461
02:24:57.630 --> 02:24:58.950
Nico Ruderman: I thought we were keeping God.

1462
02:24:58.950 --> 02:25:00.090
james murez: I thought we were keeping.

1463
02:25:00.090 --> 02:25:01.320
melissa diner: God is that our.

1464
02:25:01.320 --> 02:25:06.090
melissa diner: friendly amendment we're removing gee that's fine with me, that was just the one original one we have.

1465
02:25:08.040 --> 02:25:09.210
Mike Bravo: justin on I don't.

1466
02:25:09.210 --> 02:25:11.160
Mike Bravo: think it was ever go around consent.

1467
02:25:14.670 --> 02:25:16.710
james murez: timeout timeout timeout one, at a time.

1468
02:25:16.800 --> 02:25:26.460
melissa diner: I have a second it was daffodils original NICO second it, but if you guys want to just make a friendly thing to remove G that's fine you want to do that.

1469
02:25:27.270 --> 02:25:27.870
james murez: So what.

1470
02:25:28.950 --> 02:25:38.790
james murez: I think the intention, Melissa was item a was going to be removed and items see was going to go to consent.

1471
02:25:39.840 --> 02:25:42.210
james murez: and the rest of them were being approved.

1472
02:25:42.870 --> 02:25:48.360
melissa diner: Right so then i'll just remove G So are we still able to vote, removing A and C to consent.

1473
02:25:49.290 --> 02:25:49.950
yeah.

1474
02:25:56.850 --> 02:25:59.370
melissa diner: Yes, hey I bought yes NICO.

1475
02:26:00.390 --> 02:26:00.930
Nico Ruderman: NICO yes.

1476
02:26:02.910 --> 02:26:03.330
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

1477
02:26:03.690 --> 02:26:04.470
melissa diner: Like bravo.

1478
02:26:04.710 --> 02:26:06.330
melissa diner: Yes, Ali.

1479
02:26:09.180 --> 02:26:09.750
james murez: I don't see.

1480
02:26:16.200 --> 02:26:17.100
daff: Alice here.

1481
02:26:20.850 --> 02:26:22.110
daff: yeah I just think she.

1482
02:26:22.110 --> 02:26:22.410
Jason Sugars: has an.

1483
02:26:22.680 --> 02:26:24.060
daff: unstable connection so.

1484
02:26:25.440 --> 02:26:26.550
james murez: He has her hand up.

1485
02:26:27.540 --> 02:26:29.040
daff: And she says she's unmuted.

1486
02:26:30.870 --> 02:26:37.950
james murez: yeah but we can't see her because she's not a panelist so i'm going to promote her to panel.

1487
02:26:37.950 --> 02:26:39.600
daff: He is a panelist I did promote her.

1488
02:26:39.990 --> 02:26:40.770
james murez: Oh, all right.

1489
02:26:41.490 --> 02:26:43.740
daff: Again I didn't think she can't, for whatever reason, talk.

1490
02:26:44.310 --> 02:26:47.040
melissa diner: Okay, so let's move on Jason triggers.

1491
02:26:48.630 --> 02:26:49.110
Jason Sugars: Yes.

1492
02:26:49.500 --> 02:26:53.250
melissa diner: Thank you so Ali i'm going to mark as not present or what.

1493
02:26:53.430 --> 02:26:55.320
james murez: Though Emily has her thumb up yes.

1494
02:26:55.710 --> 02:26:58.410
melissa diner: Great perfect done unanimous.

1495
02:27:04.560 --> 02:27:08.580
james murez: Okay, so we're now moving on to.

1496
02:27:13.530 --> 02:27:15.660
melissa diner: Now you're on 11 or.

1497
02:27:15.930 --> 02:27:16.650
james murez: No we're.

1498
02:27:17.550 --> 02:27:19.770
melissa diner: Taking 1011.

1499
02:27:22.050 --> 02:27:22.620
melissa diner: Whatever.

1500
02:27:24.000 --> 02:27:25.650
james murez: It is old business.

1501
02:27:27.060 --> 02:27:31.110
james murez: And there's no items that are there, new business is what we're now on to number 11.

1502
02:27:34.230 --> 02:27:37.110
melissa diner: Well, well that's true items 10 through whatever you call.

1503
02:27:39.090 --> 02:27:47.580
james murez: Well, the selection of the standing committee chairs, I believe that that we can go forward with we have a problem with 10 he and.

1504
02:27:49.140 --> 02:27:49.680
james murez: Excuse me.

1505
02:27:52.110 --> 02:28:00.180
james murez: A week 10 and 11 and 11 a we can approve, but I don't believe we can approve 11 B or 11 see.

1506
02:28:01.920 --> 02:28:07.740
james murez: And we can talk about 11 D people have ad hoc committees that we already.

1507
02:28:09.660 --> 02:28:11.940
james murez: This is just a duplication of the other stuff.

1508
02:28:14.070 --> 02:28:16.290
melissa diner: So what number, do you want to go through.

1509
02:28:17.820 --> 02:28:18.570
melissa diner: 10 through what.

1510
02:28:20.610 --> 02:28:23.940
james murez: 1011 and 11 a great.

1511
02:28:24.420 --> 02:28:27.150
melissa diner: i'll make that motion anyone want a second it.

1512
02:28:28.410 --> 02:28:29.940
daff: All second great.

1513
02:28:32.760 --> 02:28:39.270
james murez: um let's see if we have any raised hands, we see I see oh there's one raised hand.

1514
02:28:41.070 --> 02:28:48.960
james murez: One fallon Erica more anybody else going once going twice Pope.

1515
02:28:49.980 --> 02:28:53.880
james murez: Read the public will stop after Erica more okay go ahead, no.

1516
02:28:54.990 --> 02:28:55.890
daff: Go ahead Alan.

1517
02:28:56.430 --> 02:29:08.850
Helen Fallon: got on, I hope that the themes of who was being nominated will be included on the agenda, and I also hope that before the next meeting is clarify that no voting is secret.

1518
02:29:09.570 --> 02:29:20.580
Helen Fallon: A lot of time was wasted the last meeting discussing them and that needs to stop there's rules and they need to be followed and you must vote in public cannot vote and secret.

1519
02:29:21.000 --> 02:29:29.820
Helen Fallon: So let's get that straightened out ahead of time, so there isn't any time wasted at the next board meeting must have wasted 30 minutes on that with the arguments.

1520
02:29:31.740 --> 02:29:32.160
james murez: Thank you.

1521
02:29:33.840 --> 02:29:35.850
daff: Thanks a lot Erica go ahead.

1522
02:29:37.200 --> 02:29:48.540
Erica Moore: hi i'd like to echo that and it also just like to comment that it just seemed like there's a lot of disgruntled this and it's like you guys are volunteers and I really appreciate all of you, showing up and doing your jobs.

1523
02:29:48.840 --> 02:29:55.710
Erica Moore: And I would like to I would just hope that people could just show up and do their jobs and not spend our time listening to arguments, thank you.

1524
02:29:58.740 --> 02:29:59.910
daff: Thanks Erica noted.

1525
02:30:00.090 --> 02:30:01.590
james murez: Public comment is closed.

1526
02:30:02.310 --> 02:30:03.090
james murez: Melissa you want to.

1527
02:30:03.780 --> 02:30:08.130
james murez: Take a boat, though, does anybody on the committee have any comments first sorry.

1528
02:30:11.040 --> 02:30:13.650
james murez: Okay, seeing no hands, Melissa please take a boat.

1529
02:30:19.530 --> 02:30:20.100
melissa diner: jam.

1530
02:30:20.550 --> 02:30:25.020
melissa diner: Yes, that's it Oh yes, I vote yes.

1531
02:30:26.760 --> 02:30:27.300
melissa diner: NICO.

1532
02:30:27.390 --> 02:30:28.830
Nico Ruderman: NICO to yes, yes.

1533
02:30:29.190 --> 02:30:30.870
daff: Andrea yes.

1534
02:30:31.440 --> 02:30:33.030
Mike Bravo: Mike yes.

1535
02:30:33.390 --> 02:30:34.140
Ali.

1536
02:30:37.200 --> 02:30:37.710
Jason Sugars: Yes.

1537
02:30:47.040 --> 02:30:47.520
james murez: Okay.

1538
02:30:49.470 --> 02:30:56.910
james murez: Moving right along, so we have a problem with 11 B and 11 see and I guess, we need to have a little bit of discussion before we.

1539
02:30:58.830 --> 02:31:02.790
james murez: get into how we're going to handle the, let me just tell you what's happening.

1540
02:31:05.160 --> 02:31:13.620
james murez: The selection of the land use and planning Committee and the selection of the neighborhood committee the applications were posted.

1541
02:31:15.000 --> 02:31:15.690
james murez: and

1542
02:31:15.750 --> 02:31:17.250
james murez: Can there were.

1543
02:31:17.520 --> 02:31:29.670
james murez: Four locations where people could respond to the the application that could send their application by email to Secretary.

1544
02:31:31.500 --> 02:31:44.400
james murez: To two rules to, and then it depended on on which one it was, but it was either chair of Lou pack or it was to the Vice President for the neighborhood committee.

1545
02:31:45.900 --> 02:31:50.850
james murez: The fourth location on both of the applications was post office box 550.

1546
02:31:53.970 --> 02:32:10.650
james murez: The mail in the post office box has not been picked up for some time, the holder of the key of the post office box was asked, on five separate occasions by email to turn over the key so I could start collecting the mail.

1547
02:32:11.790 --> 02:32:14.280
james murez: That wasn't done during the previous board.

1548
02:32:15.360 --> 02:32:22.320
james murez: The post office returned all of the mail that was coming into the mailbox because it wasn't being picked up.

1549
02:32:23.490 --> 02:32:32.640
james murez: And, at one point they canceled our mailbox well who was our treasure and IRA was.

1550
02:32:33.870 --> 02:32:35.100
james murez: got a hold of the.

1551
02:32:39.360 --> 02:32:39.990
james murez: Of the.

1552
02:32:41.070 --> 02:32:46.920
james murez: Postmaster and they reinstated the mailbox well it happened again and and.

1553
02:32:48.300 --> 02:32:49.080
james murez: At this point.

1554
02:32:50.430 --> 02:32:55.860
james murez: We don't have the mail that's in the mailbox we don't know if there is a mailbox anymore, I personally went over there.

1555
02:32:56.730 --> 02:33:03.240
james murez: tried to have the Postmaster look it up, they said we don't have any record of it and their policy is when they're mails not picked up.

1556
02:33:03.810 --> 02:33:13.230
james murez: They automatically start returning everything in planning department had previously contacted IRA saying why is all of your mail being rejected and and.

1557
02:33:14.490 --> 02:33:17.190
james murez: He went and found out why was because it wasn't being picked up.

1558
02:33:19.290 --> 02:33:27.450
james murez: The policy over the past several boards, has been the Chair of Lou pack picks up the mail leak has the key.

1559
02:33:28.560 --> 02:33:41.850
james murez: In a meeting with her today, I made it very clear that we would not be able to take a position on these two very important agenda items if we didn't get the mail out of the post office box, she said that she would bring it to me.

1560
02:33:43.410 --> 02:33:48.660
james murez: I reminded her this morning that she needed to bring it to me when I met with her at 230 this afternoon.

1561
02:33:49.050 --> 02:33:55.440
james murez: And she was too busy to do it in her schedule so she didn't bring it to the meeting at 230 in at 230 when I asked her for it.

1562
02:33:55.830 --> 02:34:01.830
james murez: asked her for it three times during that meeting, she assured me that she would be bringing it she never brought the mail this evening.

1563
02:34:02.610 --> 02:34:16.290
james murez: We don't have any idea if there are any applications in our mailbox so if we decide to move forward with this item tonight, based on the emails that we've received, and we have received many of them.

1564
02:34:17.520 --> 02:34:29.910
james murez: The problem is somebody could claim foul because the mail was not picked up and we would have to start the process all over again, so I guess, I want to ask the Committee, how they would like to respond to this.

1565
02:34:30.990 --> 02:34:41.010
james murez: Before we go forward with this is strictly procedurally now we're not talking about the content of who might have sent something in by mail or not.

1566
02:34:41.970 --> 02:34:52.650
james murez: i've been told that very little mail comes into the mailbox that is not for the land use and planning committee that the planning department, since every single case in a packet.

1567
02:34:53.190 --> 02:35:02.370
james murez: To that mailbox at this point, as far as I am aware, the planning department is not getting any rejects, but maybe the mailbox still exists, but the Postmaster.

1568
02:35:03.780 --> 02:35:06.990
james murez: I don't really have an answer there's all I have a lot of questions I don't have the answer.

1569
02:35:07.470 --> 02:35:12.780
melissa diner: Is there a two minute time limit to Ford comment I don't know for.

1570
02:35:13.230 --> 02:35:14.550
james murez: Okay i'm talking too much.

1571
02:35:15.840 --> 02:35:18.120
daff: emotion Jim, what do you want to do just make them.

1572
02:35:19.140 --> 02:35:21.900
james murez: I just want to ask people their opinion before I don't have a.

1573
02:35:21.900 --> 02:35:26.910
james murez: motion I don't I don't quite know how to do this, I mean I there is not a simple solution.

1574
02:35:27.450 --> 02:35:39.660
daff: As another participant witness the whole thing, let me just say that a leak said she did check them out last week, she said she did go pick up the mail I don't know exactly when true she never gave it to us.

1575
02:35:40.230 --> 02:35:42.090
daff: But I think if someone.

1576
02:35:43.080 --> 02:35:44.460
daff: sent mail in.

1577
02:35:44.820 --> 02:35:56.130
daff: To be considered as a loose cannon or neighbor and communicate it and they didn't get it, because the least and pick up the mail, they have a grievance against the leaks, I mean I honestly think we did everything humanly possible to shake this mail out of the US postal system.

1578
02:35:56.490 --> 02:36:03.420
daff: None of us have the key, so I am I, I think we have.

1579
02:36:04.410 --> 02:36:08.430
melissa diner: yeah we make a motion like look if there's mail that was.

1580
02:36:08.820 --> 02:36:18.360
melissa diner: Post stamped, just like the same as the email by the correct date to get it will honor it that's it when we get access to the mail if we haven't but like.

1581
02:36:18.630 --> 02:36:29.340
melissa diner: We can still just make emotion not you know before supposed to talk make emotion first before we talk about it, regardless, so I think we just if we're supposed to make a motion.

1582
02:36:30.300 --> 02:36:43.890
melissa diner: To be clear, all of these applications and the people that applied will be posted for the board meeting, because this is just a meeting to set the agenda, nothing more, and i'll have those inserted by the board meeting.

1583
02:36:45.030 --> 02:36:48.360
Mike Bravo: yeah yeah i'm thinking just announced.

1584
02:36:50.190 --> 02:36:58.290
Mike Bravo: Tonight announced whoever applied so far, and then, when you check the mail like let's say tomorrow morning, or whatever, in the meantime, we can add those additional names.

1585
02:36:59.040 --> 02:37:06.300
Mike Bravo: If there's any animal which I doubt they're probably is but in case there is look at one time comes, subsequent to finalizing this agenda.

1586
02:37:07.470 --> 02:37:07.680
melissa diner: yeah.

1587
02:37:07.710 --> 02:37:21.090
daff: I mean the reality is Lou Pack is one of the most important committees, and we need that committee to function like we need it going we have there are so many things going on at least already set a schedule to start dealing with a specific plan.

1588
02:37:22.260 --> 02:37:28.920
daff: I just think to let that so not until possibly October have a functional impact would be a huge disservice.

1589
02:37:29.160 --> 02:37:30.390
james murez: Well, if everyone.

1590
02:37:30.420 --> 02:37:34.680
james murez: We didn't do a selection tonight, if we didn't put it on our agenda tonight.

1591
02:37:36.270 --> 02:37:39.270
james murez: Theoretically, the loop pack, which is continue to roll over.

1592
02:37:40.110 --> 02:37:42.210
daff: Right, but we may not have a September meeting.

1593
02:37:42.330 --> 02:37:44.820
james murez: But with that, but then loop back will continue to roll over.

1594
02:37:44.850 --> 02:37:46.500
james murez: The same committee plan to roll over.

1595
02:37:46.530 --> 02:37:49.770
daff: It may not, I mean people may not, I mean she may not have a quorum.

1596
02:37:51.270 --> 02:38:04.410
melissa diner: Right know what I mean the reality is no one mailed it like no one mailed it that's never happened in five years, we will honor everyone that met the deadline, the store and we don't have to worry about it period.

1597
02:38:04.620 --> 02:38:04.950
james murez: Okay.

1598
02:38:04.980 --> 02:38:12.750
daff: So yeah I mean it's like submitting your taxes right if it's supposed to work by the day that's fine I mean we every government agency operates exactly the same way on us.

1599
02:38:13.080 --> 02:38:16.020
james murez: If we can get it like that i'll be satisfied if we can get it.

1600
02:38:17.520 --> 02:38:20.580
james murez: Okay, so at this point do we need to.

1601
02:38:21.720 --> 02:38:23.910
james murez: scale, who all the nominations are we just.

1602
02:38:24.030 --> 02:38:25.650
daff: Go ahead and list them and put out.

1603
02:38:26.970 --> 02:38:27.510
james murez: What now.

1604
02:38:27.540 --> 02:38:30.240
Ivan: What is no, no, now we.

1605
02:38:30.270 --> 02:38:32.070
daff: Know i'm going to make a motion.

1606
02:38:32.190 --> 02:38:32.700
james murez: let's make.

1607
02:38:33.060 --> 02:38:33.870
daff: Seven be.

1608
02:38:35.580 --> 02:38:37.980
daff: 11 be 11 see.

1609
02:38:39.720 --> 02:38:41.190
daff: And 11 D.

1610
02:38:42.210 --> 02:38:47.340
daff: As amended by the icon board i'm on the agenda.

1611
02:38:48.750 --> 02:38:49.830
james murez: right here a second for that.

1612
02:38:53.040 --> 02:38:53.850
melissa diner: I can thought.

1613
02:38:55.470 --> 02:38:58.890
daff: Mostly here in a second yeah okay.

1614
02:39:00.330 --> 02:39:09.690
daff: um and we have three public comments for public comments we're going to close it with Liz right but start with Lisa resonance resonance art, they say, go ahead.

1615
02:39:11.490 --> 02:39:27.270
Lisa Redmond: yeah um if you don't get the mail in time for the next one for the board meeting I think you're going to have to postpone because that is something that somebody could have a grievance or if you announced to mail it there and.

1616
02:39:27.330 --> 02:39:39.270
Lisa Redmond: Also fyi you can have a grievance over just a leaks at you would have a grievance against the whole board for that reason, you can file a grievance against an individual board meeting.

1617
02:39:39.720 --> 02:39:43.980
Lisa Redmond: And then also I thought it was very unfair for you guys to throw me under the bus.

1618
02:39:44.280 --> 02:39:57.450
Lisa Redmond: That way, that she is the one that's holding the mail, if you have personal issues with it, that should be discussed separately or within your Executive Committee and I have appeal box and I have two keys for just me, so I think you guys should get a second.

1619
02:40:03.030 --> 02:40:04.560
daff: Go ahead Nick answer cello.

1620
02:40:08.430 --> 02:40:12.840
Nick Antonicello: yeah, I just wanted to say that, wherever the signatories on.

1621
02:40:15.270 --> 02:40:19.080
daff: Up Nick i'm so sorry I accidentally just muted you awake go ahead.

1622
02:40:22.350 --> 02:40:24.210
daff: Sorry, and Lisa you can take your hand down.

1623
02:40:31.980 --> 02:40:32.160
Nick Antonicello: me.

1624
02:40:32.730 --> 02:40:34.050
daff: Yes, I can i'm so sorry.

1625
02:40:36.750 --> 02:40:46.710
Nick Antonicello: I would just make a suggestion anyone who's a signatory, on the account checking account of the dnc should be the same people that have access to the keys to the mailbox.

1626
02:40:47.520 --> 02:41:00.870
Nick Antonicello: Because the custodian of all correspondence is the secretary, and she hasn't got access to the records she can do her job, so I would definitely say that.

1627
02:41:01.650 --> 02:41:13.170
Nick Antonicello: She should have a key and ginger the kid maybe the Vice President of the key but this whole process really now regarding Lucas has been, for God and the people are on the board and.

1628
02:41:13.950 --> 02:41:28.770
Nick Antonicello: They may we may numbers to their successors qualify anyway so it's not really a question of disruption like given, given the circumstances in this situation, I would, I would suggest that you wouldn't go one more month Thank you.

1629
02:41:30.000 --> 02:41:32.160
daff: Thanks Nick Helen go ahead.

1630
02:41:34.920 --> 02:41:40.920
Helen Fallon: No i'm going to bring up once again, I think it needs to be clear how the elections are going to be.

1631
02:41:41.250 --> 02:41:48.300
Helen Fallon: conducted in the past loop Pack was conducted a sort of a block voting was unclear who voted for, who.

1632
02:41:48.660 --> 02:41:56.070
Helen Fallon: And it was quite clear that there were Olympic Members who are elected by less than the majority of the Board, which I think is a is.

1633
02:41:56.640 --> 02:42:06.870
Helen Fallon: reprehensible and the record from the previous election is very, very unclear Ivan shaking his head go look at it i've and you can't even explain it to anybody.

1634
02:42:07.380 --> 02:42:17.640
Helen Fallon: So that should be clearly delineated you need to have that out in writing, it should be included in the agenda so there's no problems with the election.

1635
02:42:18.180 --> 02:42:30.210
Helen Fallon: And you know, and I don't think this massive block voting is appropriate, when you end up with some people on that board, who have done a horrible job this past two years and that board.

1636
02:42:30.660 --> 02:42:39.420
Helen Fallon: That loop that committee needs to be turned over and you've got Members on there, who had been disrespectful of the Chair got Members who have left early and.

1637
02:42:40.080 --> 02:42:52.680
Helen Fallon: You know, created situations where there's no core who argue constantly it's time to get a new some new blood on there and turn turn that loop that Committee into a functional committee instead of.

1638
02:42:53.070 --> 02:43:00.300
Helen Fallon: leaks being harassed and bullied I several of those board members committee members, one of them actually question.

1639
02:43:01.440 --> 02:43:01.830
Thank you.

1640
02:43:03.420 --> 02:43:03.960
Helen Fallon: Thank you.

1641
02:43:07.140 --> 02:43:12.900
daff: Okay, we have a motion for pumped up i'm sorry we have lives, right here, started to see the last one go ahead, let us.

1642
02:43:15.660 --> 02:43:19.740
Elizabeth Wright: Thank you, if I heard correctly, you are going to.

1643
02:43:20.760 --> 02:43:23.940
Elizabeth Wright: put on the agenda 11 D, as in dog.

1644
02:43:25.080 --> 02:43:27.240
Elizabeth Wright: 11 D corresponds to.

1645
02:43:28.320 --> 02:43:30.270
Elizabeth Wright: like the one in the.

1646
02:43:32.070 --> 02:43:34.980
Elizabeth Wright: Agenda that you had so much discussion about.

1647
02:43:37.290 --> 02:43:39.120
Elizabeth Wright: Five be I believe it was.

1648
02:43:40.500 --> 02:43:53.010
james murez: I think, to so we can be clear about 11 D I think what what was said by the maker of the motion we're going to make 11 D is agreed to during the Ad COM.

1649
02:43:53.100 --> 02:43:53.460
Elizabeth Wright: Thank you.

1650
02:43:53.490 --> 02:43:54.600
james murez: version of the meeting.

1651
02:43:54.960 --> 02:43:55.350
Elizabeth Wright: Thank you.

1652
02:43:59.040 --> 02:44:06.330
daff: Okay, so closing public comment thanks Liz we have the motion on the floor, I will say that we did.

1653
02:44:07.200 --> 02:44:20.730
daff: Specifically in person asked for the mail today, stressing the importance of needing it for tonight and we don't have it, but I do think that, again, this is a common issue with every branch of government in every way and we just go by postmark and that's that.

1654
02:44:22.740 --> 02:44:37.530
daff: So I would advocate that we do it, I think there's obviously a lot of public comment for our new new pack, and we should make that happen as soon as we can, particularly again if we end up having to extend for a couple months.

1655
02:44:39.120 --> 02:44:53.100
james murez: So devil, I just want to respond to a couple of things that were said so people are aware, I did receive a key that was supposed to be a duplicate the number on the key.

1656
02:44:54.420 --> 02:45:02.100
james murez: Was have a mailbox that did not have an sequence within our post office in Venice.

1657
02:45:02.400 --> 02:45:11.580
james murez: I went to the Postmaster and I said, can you look up our account I showed them the key because the number stamped in it and they said that account doesn't exist anymore.

1658
02:45:12.030 --> 02:45:21.090
james murez: And so I contacted Hugh who paid the bills because Melissa wouldn't have had the key she never had the key she wouldn't have had any account information about it.

1659
02:45:21.360 --> 02:45:28.590
james murez: asked him for the account information and he said well the account doesn't expire until October that's when it was last paid.

1660
02:45:28.980 --> 02:45:35.430
james murez: And the account number was supposed to be on the key My guess is and they didn't have any record of it, but when the.

1661
02:45:36.150 --> 02:45:49.170
james murez: Post Office box was discontinued and then recreated during a year ago, or less during the last year, I should say they changed the keys or something so we only have the one key at this point, which is the one that.

1662
02:45:50.700 --> 02:45:52.140
james murez: is outstanding in.

1663
02:45:52.200 --> 02:45:53.220
james murez: You know week so.

1664
02:45:53.730 --> 02:46:00.180
james murez: i've asked to get the, I will start being responsible for collecting the mail, this will never come up again once I get the key.

1665
02:46:01.230 --> 02:46:11.700
james murez: And and moving forward, I will be the handler of making sure that it gets handed out just so everybody's clear on that okay now let's take a vote, Melissa let somebody else has a question or comment about this item.

1666
02:46:12.570 --> 02:46:20.370
Mike Bravo: know about the item but just about the mailbox did y'all say you're going to be issuing extra keys just for backup like the daffodil or.

1667
02:46:20.910 --> 02:46:25.920
james murez: I don't know how the post office bike it's a good question I don't know how the post office handles that.

1668
02:46:26.280 --> 02:46:30.390
james murez: I know that that the key that I received says it's not duplicatable.

1669
02:46:30.780 --> 02:46:35.190
james murez: And I think that they have to be the ones to give us keys so once I get a key that.

1670
02:46:35.190 --> 02:46:44.970
james murez: works, then I will be able to say hey, we need a second key and yeah i'll make sure that there's a backup and if you'd like to be the person to go and pick it up, that would be fine too.

1671
02:46:45.720 --> 02:46:46.230
Mike Bravo: sounds good.

1672
02:46:46.920 --> 02:46:51.480
daff: yeah part of the problem is the males have not been picked up and so long that the post office cancelled the box.

1673
02:46:52.080 --> 02:46:53.610
daff: So we don't knowing that.

1674
02:46:54.330 --> 02:46:56.370
james murez: We don't know that canceled at this point.

1675
02:46:56.670 --> 02:46:57.360
daff: Because right.

1676
02:46:58.110 --> 02:46:59.790
daff: back and forth with them, trying to get into the.

1677
02:46:59.790 --> 02:47:02.700
daff: Block so it's the whole thing and which triangles oh.

1678
02:47:02.880 --> 02:47:06.270
james murez: No leaks that you picked it up a week ago, and I mean today so i'm you know.

1679
02:47:06.960 --> 02:47:07.950
daff: yeah right.

1680
02:47:09.810 --> 02:47:12.270
james murez: Okay, so let's take a vote on this one, Melissa please.

1681
02:47:12.900 --> 02:47:14.310
melissa diner: Well, Jim.

1682
02:47:14.610 --> 02:47:16.260
melissa diner: Yes, that's it oh.

1683
02:47:18.210 --> 02:47:18.750
daff: Yes.

1684
02:47:19.290 --> 02:47:20.550
melissa diner: I go yes NICO.

1685
02:47:21.450 --> 02:47:21.870
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

1686
02:47:22.350 --> 02:47:22.980
And draft.

1687
02:47:27.960 --> 02:47:28.860
james murez: unmute i'd read.

1688
02:47:29.010 --> 02:47:29.610
Yes.

1689
02:47:33.690 --> 02:47:34.620
Mike Bravo: Yes.

1690
02:47:34.920 --> 02:47:35.400
Ali.

1691
02:47:37.290 --> 02:47:41.670
daff: yeah she she's going to sign off in a second, but because of her mean she just texted me.

1692
02:47:43.110 --> 02:47:43.800
melissa diner: Jason.

1693
02:47:44.580 --> 02:47:46.500
melissa diner: Yes, thanks.

1694
02:47:49.530 --> 02:47:51.660
james murez: Well we're making progress we're almost done here.

1695
02:47:53.100 --> 02:47:53.520
james murez: Okay.

1696
02:47:57.240 --> 02:47:59.340
james murez: I am down now to.

1697
02:48:01.740 --> 02:48:01.980
daff: 12.

1698
02:48:03.480 --> 02:48:03.930
james murez: Yes.

1699
02:48:06.120 --> 02:48:10.170
Ivan: Can you just put a placeholder in for freddie's motion.

1700
02:48:10.590 --> 02:48:11.340
james murez: Okay.

1701
02:48:11.460 --> 02:48:15.450
Ivan: um what what the selection of five and i'll get you the wording.

1702
02:48:15.720 --> 02:48:21.240
Ivan: Okay five board members to attend civic university.

1703
02:48:22.770 --> 02:48:23.310
james murez: yeah.

1704
02:48:24.360 --> 02:48:26.400
james murez: Okay, so we'll put that in after 11.

1705
02:48:27.150 --> 02:48:29.430
james murez: Okay, and and.

1706
02:48:31.020 --> 02:48:32.040
james murez: it'll be before 12.

1707
02:48:33.000 --> 02:48:33.990
Ivan: Okay, thank you.

1708
02:48:34.410 --> 02:48:36.360
james murez: Actually, will put it in.

1709
02:48:40.380 --> 02:48:48.030
james murez: we'll put it in between 11 see and 11 D, did you get that Melissa.

1710
02:48:49.980 --> 02:48:50.520
melissa diner: Ah.

1711
02:48:53.070 --> 02:48:53.520
Ivan: OK.

1712
02:48:54.540 --> 02:48:56.520
james murez: Between 11 C and D.

1713
02:48:57.780 --> 02:48:59.400
james murez: we're going to put freddie's motion.

1714
02:49:02.940 --> 02:49:06.300
james murez: And we'll have to get the wording on it, thank you okay.

1715
02:49:11.490 --> 02:49:14.670
melissa diner: Are we doing a motion for the rest of the agenda now.

1716
02:49:15.300 --> 02:49:16.200
james murez: And I think.

1717
02:49:17.220 --> 02:49:27.810
james murez: was one that I had said to Mike wanted to to make an alternate motion to that one so let's take 12 separately.

1718
02:49:28.830 --> 02:49:34.080
james murez: away yeah that's right 12 separate public public public comment items, not on the agenda go ahead Mike.

1719
02:49:35.340 --> 02:49:36.660
james murez: You wanted to make a motion to that one.

1720
02:49:36.690 --> 02:49:38.670
Mike Bravo: Yes, like to make a motion to move.

1721
02:49:40.710 --> 02:49:48.870
Mike Bravo: The public comments on the agenda to after the budget and finance report, which I believe is seven.

1722
02:49:50.520 --> 02:49:51.660
james murez: Okay, do I hear a second.

1723
02:49:54.240 --> 02:49:54.780
Andrea Boccaletti: A second.

1724
02:49:56.250 --> 02:49:59.250
james murez: Andre a second did it okay let's take public comment.

1725
02:50:02.160 --> 02:50:05.370
james murez: See one hand two hands three hands.

1726
02:50:08.790 --> 02:50:09.840
james murez: Five hands.

1727
02:50:12.420 --> 02:50:15.840
james murez: As many fingers, as I have, I hope we don't can be more have to start my second here.

1728
02:50:17.790 --> 02:50:20.310
james murez: Okay let's let's stop after Darrell.

1729
02:50:21.330 --> 02:50:22.200
james murez: definitely go ahead.

1730
02:50:23.640 --> 02:50:24.420
daff: Oh sorry.

1731
02:50:25.860 --> 02:50:27.270
daff: Science class I just can't get rid of.

1732
02:50:27.270 --> 02:50:28.230
daff: Helen why don't you go ahead.

1733
02:50:30.540 --> 02:50:31.050
daff: Yes.

1734
02:50:31.230 --> 02:50:40.950
Helen Fallon: Okay um I believe that this is a good idea to move it up, I think people are only getting 30 seconds, you can set a time limit on how much.

1735
02:50:41.580 --> 02:50:49.440
Helen Fallon: you're going to devote to the agenda of that these are agenda items, not on the agenda, so it doesn't go on forever.

1736
02:50:49.800 --> 02:50:55.320
Helen Fallon: And oftentimes it brings up things that people need to hear about that are going on in the Community and then may prompt.

1737
02:50:55.770 --> 02:51:01.500
Helen Fallon: A committee or a board member to follow up on something so I just think it's a courtesy to the Community and.

1738
02:51:02.160 --> 02:51:12.540
Helen Fallon: It sends a message to stakeholders that you care about hearing from them instead of saying Oh well, you know if you want to stay up till 11 1130 and have to wade through endless arguments and nonsense.

1739
02:51:13.140 --> 02:51:16.500
Helen Fallon: and put up with that you know that will let you talk fluently.

1740
02:51:17.880 --> 02:51:19.560
daff: Thank you, thank you.

1741
02:51:21.360 --> 02:51:22.320
daff: Robin good.

1742
02:51:25.200 --> 02:51:34.320
RobinRudisill: hi Robin Roussel I think the main thing here is that public participation is really important, especially in the coastal zone there's.

1743
02:51:34.320 --> 02:51:34.830
daff: Actually, a.

1744
02:51:35.550 --> 02:51:36.090
Section.

1745
02:51:37.110 --> 02:51:46.440
RobinRudisill: Somebody else's making noise, so I hope you can hear me but there's actually a coastal X section that talks about the importance of public participation in the coastal zone and.

1746
02:51:46.770 --> 02:51:57.960
RobinRudisill: This is so obvious it's good this is going to put a damper on public participation, going to inhibit public participation, to move this to the end of the agenda, take a look number 15.

1747
02:51:58.260 --> 02:52:07.560
RobinRudisill: The adjournment is 11pm so public public comment is just before that that's nonsense that's unfair that's ridiculous it's too late for the public.

1748
02:52:08.850 --> 02:52:17.820
RobinRudisill: To have to have it at that time, I mean this might work for other Councils, or maybe City Council when it's a meeting during the day and it's not unreasonable.

1749
02:52:18.210 --> 02:52:27.690
RobinRudisill: To speak at say three o'clock or five o'clock but 11pm is just unreasonable please put it back according to the makers motion thanks.

1750
02:52:32.490 --> 02:52:38.850
daff: Lisa redmond go and, by the way, if you previously gave this comment, when we talked about this before you don't need to re comment We do understand.

1751
02:52:39.960 --> 02:52:40.440
daff: Go ahead.

1752
02:52:43.380 --> 02:52:54.960
Lisa Redmond: yeah we really need public comment at the front of the meeting, and I know you encourage participation, in other words, but people like to hear their voices be heard.

1753
02:52:55.680 --> 02:53:04.620
Lisa Redmond: Then that way they can have their own tone or inflection on whatever they're happy about whatever they want to say, even if they need to vent.

1754
02:53:05.070 --> 02:53:17.520
Lisa Redmond: that's part of public participation and we all need to hear it, and also people make announcements at public participation, like hey we're having a big fundraiser for our.

1755
02:53:18.060 --> 02:53:29.010
Lisa Redmond: truck arrow monument this Saturday come on out now how else would people have known that that's also a nice opportunity for people to use that public comment to talk about what's going on in.

1756
02:53:30.180 --> 02:53:39.270
Lisa Redmond: This whole idea that there are lots and lots of other people doing it is not right of the 99 neighborhood Councils in Los Angeles.

1757
02:53:40.320 --> 02:53:44.460
Lisa Redmond: Only a few like 8%.

1758
02:53:45.510 --> 02:53:59.100
Lisa Redmond: Have public comment at the end of their meeting and that's for that very same reason, it is the hallmark of public participation short of actually voting, so please let people have their public comment and people don't have to stay up late to do it.

1759
02:54:01.230 --> 02:54:02.100
Okay, thanks.

1760
02:54:03.150 --> 02:54:04.920
daff: i'm Erica go ahead.

1761
02:54:06.330 --> 02:54:07.560
Erica Moore: I this is Erica.

1762
02:54:08.700 --> 02:54:20.760
Erica Moore: yeah I can understand why you would want to move it into the back, because you're trying to get through everything, but it really just doesn't make sense, because it is true that there are things that need to be announced were addressed that.

1763
02:54:21.210 --> 02:54:27.120
Erica Moore: To wait to the end of the meeting, a lot of people have dropped off i'm in that nine hours, so I do stay till the end.

1764
02:54:27.450 --> 02:54:31.410
Erica Moore: And i'll always be there, make my limit but there's a lot of people who don't and can't.

1765
02:54:31.800 --> 02:54:39.630
Erica Moore: So I think it is important to give us a voice, because we are the public and the neighborhood Council is supposed to represent the neighborhood.

1766
02:54:40.140 --> 02:54:46.560
Erica Moore: i'm also there are actually some neighborhood Councils, who offer a comic in the beginning, and at the end.

1767
02:54:46.860 --> 02:54:53.850
Erica Moore: which I think I wish we could do that because, ultimately, sometimes after hearing everything that's presented in the meeting.

1768
02:54:54.180 --> 02:55:07.380
Erica Moore: It does spur ideas and thoughts about things that need to be addressed that then can be talked about at the end or addressed by people thanks a lot for your service, and I really hope you will move it back to the front thanks so much.

1769
02:55:08.610 --> 02:55:12.600
daff: Thank you okay last but certainly not least Darrell.

1770
02:55:14.430 --> 02:55:14.970
daff: you're on.

1771
02:55:16.110 --> 02:55:16.650
Darryl DuFay: Thank you.

1772
02:55:17.940 --> 02:55:21.990
Darryl DuFay: Again it's a Venice neighborhood Council.

1773
02:55:23.940 --> 02:55:28.230
Darryl DuFay: And people want to be heard, even if its first two or three minutes.

1774
02:55:29.580 --> 02:55:40.680
Darryl DuFay: And that time should be given at the beginning of the meeting when other what other times they have to come in and talk about, even if it isn't on the agenda.

1775
02:55:41.430 --> 02:55:54.390
Darryl DuFay: that's what I think is the most important and they have they have interests and concerns, and they wanted to bring to your attention, so I would ask you to move with back, thank you very much.

1776
02:55:56.730 --> 02:55:57.120
daff: Thank you.

1777
02:55:58.380 --> 02:56:00.960
daff: And with Gerald we are closing public comment.

1778
02:56:01.440 --> 02:56:10.110
james murez: Thank you, and I will say we're closing public comment after that um okay does anybody on the committee have anything to say about this Mike we don't know how you feel you already spoke up.

1779
02:56:13.260 --> 02:56:14.610
james murez: We have any other.

1780
02:56:16.260 --> 02:56:16.830
james murez: Andreas.

1781
02:56:19.050 --> 02:56:20.640
daff: Jason are you trying to raise your hand there.

1782
02:56:21.090 --> 02:56:21.750
Jason Sugars: Yes, ma'am.

1783
02:56:22.740 --> 02:56:23.040
Okay.

1784
02:56:24.480 --> 02:56:25.560
daff: raised his hand as well yeah.

1785
02:56:25.830 --> 02:56:28.830
james murez: yeah I called on address already go ahead, Andreas go ahead.

1786
02:56:28.980 --> 02:56:34.710
Andrea Boccaletti: yeah no I mean I just don't want to belabor this, but I think it's really important to hear from the Community at the beginning of the meeting.

1787
02:56:35.670 --> 02:56:47.970
Andrea Boccaletti: I don't know if there's a way that we can as soon as somebody says a you know, a bad word or anything of that kind of thing can be cut off and and maybe it's that's not know you gotta listen to him, no matter what right.

1788
02:56:48.060 --> 02:56:49.950
james murez: lot of free stuff yeah.

1789
02:56:50.010 --> 02:56:56.220
Andrea Boccaletti: yeah i'm going to just wish there was more respect in that regard, but I do think it's very important to hear from the Community at the beginning of the meeting.

1790
02:56:58.110 --> 02:56:58.590
james murez: Okay.

1791
02:56:59.700 --> 02:57:01.410
james murez: Jason I think your hand was up next.

1792
02:57:02.610 --> 02:57:10.980
Jason Sugars: I know I won't go long, but I think that, I mean I said it when in our last meeting so just from reading the Community that we're representing.

1793
02:57:11.310 --> 02:57:14.160
Jason Sugars: And that it seems unanimous, at least from public comment at this point.

1794
02:57:14.550 --> 02:57:23.310
Jason Sugars: That they would like I haven't heard anyone from the public comment say that they did not want to move it back and everyone did seem pretty pretty adamant last time, there are a lot more comments, then.

1795
02:57:23.640 --> 02:57:27.840
Jason Sugars: I won't go on forever and ever but if there's a matter of getting things moving, perhaps the.

1796
02:57:28.290 --> 02:57:38.790
Jason Sugars: First, early public comment, would be the original 30 seconds, and if you want to people that wanted to really get their wind out and you wanted to have something at the end, as well, might be a better opportunity for us to hear more from the Community, we represent.

1797
02:57:41.370 --> 02:57:41.910
james murez: Thank you.

1798
02:57:43.590 --> 02:57:44.790
james murez: NICO you had your hand up.

1799
02:57:46.890 --> 02:58:00.690
Nico Ruderman: um yeah I mean I i'm torn on this, but I, but I actually think Jason solution is a great one because it's this kind of the best of both worlds gives people who want a lot of time time to speak at the end, but but really.

1800
02:58:01.740 --> 02:58:04.530
Nico Ruderman: doesn't hold up the meeting with with somebody going on and on.

1801
02:58:06.390 --> 02:58:15.240
Nico Ruderman: With maybe the caveat that you know somebody has like a special announcement that they could you know make make a request for more time for specific situation.

1802
02:58:15.600 --> 02:58:16.080
Okay.

1803
02:58:19.320 --> 02:58:21.750
Nico Ruderman: I like I like jason's jason's idea.

1804
02:58:22.290 --> 02:58:25.680
james murez: Okay um I heard somebody else speaking in their death dog.

1805
02:58:25.680 --> 02:58:30.270
melissa diner: i'm Melissa I don't know how to raise my hand because i'm a panelist, can I say something.

1806
02:58:30.480 --> 02:58:31.140
james murez: Sure go ahead.

1807
02:58:31.980 --> 02:58:41.310
melissa diner: Look, unfortunately, because we are all volunteers and because of the poor guidance were given by the city and empower la.

1808
02:58:41.850 --> 02:58:56.460
melissa diner: we're trying our best to be not horribly inefficient inefficient right, so this is all done in terms of efficiency and trying to empower us actually getting whatever the Community vision.

1809
02:58:56.880 --> 02:59:06.240
melissa diner: And board members that are representing those Community visions done so I don't think we have a lack of hearing from the Community and also.

1810
02:59:06.630 --> 02:59:14.340
melissa diner: We hearing from like three people that call in for add calm is not representative what I believe the community in general wants.

1811
02:59:14.580 --> 02:59:32.940
melissa diner: In terms of where we place add calm items so i'm not opposed to having there be something further up on the agenda in terms of announcements and a saying loud and clear that we have like announcements, but people take advantage of everything, unfortunately, sadly we've had 30 minute.

1812
02:59:33.960 --> 02:59:44.520
melissa diner: Public comment at the beginning, for a long time and people will still just speak about items that are on the agenda, we have to cut them off, so if whatever happens.

1813
02:59:44.520 --> 02:59:49.950
melissa diner: And we do vote to move it up, then I would just say it's like with the contingency that like.

1814
02:59:50.730 --> 02:59:58.470
melissa diner: I think that this board will not have a tolerance for that right like if it's public items, not on the agenda.

1815
02:59:58.890 --> 03:00:06.390
melissa diner: Then you're not going to be able to speak until that item is on and we should cut it off at that time, just so we can be efficient.

1816
03:00:06.750 --> 03:00:19.860
melissa diner: If you guys do vote that up if not I don't think there's a lack of when people are going to comment or anytime someone has to make a real, genuine announcement at the beginning, I think we can figure out a way to implement that Thank you.

1817
03:00:21.060 --> 03:00:23.430
Nico Ruderman: Okay, definitely a little so just to start.

1818
03:00:24.990 --> 03:00:25.470
james murez: With somebody.

1819
03:00:25.500 --> 03:00:26.190
Nico Ruderman: Who is just.

1820
03:00:27.060 --> 03:00:37.920
Nico Ruderman: That that was NICO Sorry, I just want to clarify what what you're saying what are you saying that that you think that if if something is is on the agenda that you shouldn't be able to speak on it public comments at the beginning.

1821
03:00:38.040 --> 03:00:38.520
james murez: Oh that's.

1822
03:00:39.180 --> 03:00:53.790
melissa diner: that's actually what it is it's it's a public comment for items, not on the agenda so you're actually not if we move this up never allowed to speak on items, other than items that are not on the agenda.

1823
03:00:54.540 --> 03:01:01.230
james murez: me go, let me give you a little bit of explanation, we haven't had a board training yet and it's something that that an orientation meeting.

1824
03:01:02.010 --> 03:01:17.310
james murez: The other boards in past years have always done it it's something that we need to do it's actually hopefully will happen in September, but it will explain that it is public comment was given and it's an item that would be coming before us.

1825
03:01:18.450 --> 03:01:26.730
james murez: And it was something that was on the agenda, well then, it would be creating all kinds of violations from the standpoint of.

1826
03:01:27.600 --> 03:01:33.930
james murez: Having discussions about something before they were within the scope of where they were supposed to be discussed so.

1827
03:01:34.500 --> 03:01:48.090
james murez: we'll get into that more but but Melissa is correct, if it's items only that are not on the agenda that are supposed to be spoken about during that public comment that doesn't say however that every item that we do speak on.

1828
03:01:48.480 --> 03:01:52.920
james murez: We have an agenda item there's always playing with comments attached to every item individually as well.

1829
03:01:53.730 --> 03:01:54.030
Okay.

1830
03:01:55.350 --> 03:01:56.280
james murez: daffodil go ahead.

1831
03:01:58.470 --> 03:02:06.780
daff: Okay, I have a couple comments here one so again this has been discussed, but it came up because we get rarely.

1832
03:02:07.410 --> 03:02:19.110
daff: Any useful public comments on items, not on the agenda, and when we do have things where people want to talk they usually reach out and it goes into announcements, or something like that, so the idea would be.

1833
03:02:19.470 --> 03:02:28.710
daff: To create a system where we can actually get comments, either by setting up an email address, which we believe we can do with the city public comment board dnc.

1834
03:02:30.450 --> 03:02:41.250
daff: People would be able to write in their comments and I do understand there's some value in being able to vocalize them, but in being able to send them in we'd also be able to attach them to the Minutes and really capture.

1835
03:02:42.390 --> 03:02:47.100
daff: The public comments, word for word, which is virtually impossible to do in minutes so.

1836
03:02:47.940 --> 03:02:54.660
daff: You know, again I believe in change, I believe, in trying new things, this is something I see that some boards have done with some success, and so I pitched it.

1837
03:02:55.260 --> 03:03:04.230
daff: Obviously it's up to the committee, I just want to speak for allie as well who lost her voice capabilities, on her phone and she.

1838
03:03:05.160 --> 03:03:12.210
daff: thinks that public comment is crucial, which I think we all agree, she said, if an email system can be worked out at the public agreed was fair and.

1839
03:03:12.780 --> 03:03:27.900
daff: The comments can be read she'd be okay with that, but she thinks it needs to be ironed out until we do it, so I think her vote is with Mike on this one, and also, we can remember that um but the last thing I just wanted to say was um.

1840
03:03:28.950 --> 03:03:41.940
daff: You know we've had you know, all we have our common saying 30 seconds was not long enough right and tonight, people are saying Oh, give us 30 seconds, all we need is 30 seconds I mean one of the reasons why we did this was because we had.

1841
03:03:44.130 --> 03:03:52.110
daff: A lot of complaints about 30 seconds being way too long, but the reality is if people just want to go on and complain and come in as a pig or goat or whatever.

1842
03:03:52.530 --> 03:04:03.150
daff: The beginning of the meeting it it totally dams up the meeting, and we had i've had so much feedback on this one issue so that's why I made the motion, but obviously everyone's vote your conscience on this.

1843
03:04:04.200 --> 03:04:09.420
daff: i'm obviously going to vote against moving it and for keeping it where it is.

1844
03:04:10.020 --> 03:04:12.270
james murez: i'm Mike you, you have your hand up again.

1845
03:04:12.540 --> 03:04:19.890
Mike Bravo: yeah I just want to add real quick to know I definitely have said, this is, you know, a top that we can explore more at different time, but I think just put it back.

1846
03:04:20.550 --> 03:04:27.150
Mike Bravo: The way it was at least for now, with the 30 seconds, you know I think we should have more time, but he had some a bigger discussion so not to go there.

1847
03:04:27.570 --> 03:04:34.650
Mike Bravo: But I definitely want to you know, whatever daffodils trying to create or whatever people think is you know, an additional alternative.

1848
03:04:35.100 --> 03:04:44.220
Mike Bravo: way to get public comment i'm all for supporting that and helping out behind the scenes, but in the meantime, we definitely had his public comment in the beginning, I just want to say that.

1849
03:04:44.520 --> 03:04:45.840
james murez: Okay Jason go ahead.

1850
03:04:48.450 --> 03:04:49.410
james murez: You have your hand up chasing.

1851
03:04:50.820 --> 03:04:51.090
daff: Any.

1852
03:04:51.630 --> 03:05:03.690
Jason Sugars: Big sorry alright so i'll be quick um I was, I was not just using the the three that we heard tonight, but all of the ones from last time, and all of the ones that we heard earlier tonight as far as my examples of what the Community is asking but.

1853
03:05:04.380 --> 03:05:10.050
Jason Sugars: The three seconds is not my saying that that is enough time I don't believe that it is, I believe that if we want to keep things moving.

1854
03:05:10.350 --> 03:05:17.310
Jason Sugars: People that want desperately to get their words out that need more time, the longer period of time, at the end or somewhere else in the meeting, maybe fine.

1855
03:05:17.820 --> 03:05:32.700
Jason Sugars: And 30 seconds for the upfront comments that we're talking about maybe long enough for those so that at least some people who are not up all night watching these meetings can participate i'm not really sure that emails sent in to us privately and not all made public.

1856
03:05:34.020 --> 03:05:38.280
Jason Sugars: would work as public commentary unless every single one of them has made comment.

1857
03:05:38.670 --> 03:05:50.040
Jason Sugars: I mean made public i'm not sure how you guys are working, that out, but at least until you guys do work it out, I think, maybe i'm putting it back where it was for the time being, might be a good I just an objective idea to do for now.

1858
03:05:50.460 --> 03:05:55.170
james murez: Okay, thank you, so let me just make my comment now I actually.

1859
03:05:56.610 --> 03:06:10.500
james murez: thought that if we did it in two sections that we could do short periods of time at the beginning and a longer period of time, at the end, the problem that I think we may run into if we decide to do that and we can decide that tonight, if we want to try it.

1860
03:06:11.850 --> 03:06:20.970
james murez: The people that speak at the beginning, should not get the opportunity to again speak at the end that we're going to be here all night and that sort of comes back to the same thing, how can we manage this.

1861
03:06:22.110 --> 03:06:29.760
james murez: I think if we were to do five minutes at the beginning for people that want to take 30 seconds to just make an announcement, or something I think that would work real well.

1862
03:06:30.090 --> 03:06:38.670
james murez: If we could keep it to that that would work, and if we had extra time left over in the five minutes, we can put it back on to the 15 minutes at the end and everybody at the end gets a minute apiece.

1863
03:06:39.060 --> 03:06:56.070
james murez: I think that that sort of a compromise, but I also wonder, I heard somebody say I think it might have been Robin said 11 o'clock for the public to have to be there to still be able to old people like to be able to go to sleep and whatnot that sort of made me wonder.

1864
03:06:57.660 --> 03:07:09.210
james murez: Why is it that the board who's also volunteering should be staying up to 11 o'clock or beyond to hear that and that's just a personal thing that i'm thinking about.

1865
03:07:09.570 --> 03:07:17.610
james murez: I know that after 11 o'clock it's just ridiculous and I was in several of the meetings in the last term where we were up until one o'clock or 130.

1866
03:07:17.970 --> 03:07:30.450
james murez: that's not going to happen we're going to cut it off and we'll have a second meeting if we get to 11 o'clock 11 o'clock is going to be our absolute drop dead time that's it we're not going past, but having said that.

1867
03:07:31.530 --> 03:07:37.980
james murez: We could start at six o'clock and go until 10 and then I wonder if, having the comments at the end is too late.

1868
03:07:38.520 --> 03:07:47.790
james murez: Or if we started at five o'clock and went until nine I think I mean personally in all of my years in business and in doing things.

1869
03:07:48.690 --> 03:08:02.190
james murez: After two hours, people are burning out on meetings, and you know one hours typically okay two hours is getting long three hours is is you know wow and four hours, my.

1870
03:08:02.250 --> 03:08:03.330
daff: God I you know.

1871
03:08:03.630 --> 03:08:12.030
james murez: The coastal Commission goes for hours, and then they take an hour break, we were going last term six hours and not taking any breaks.

1872
03:08:12.450 --> 03:08:20.250
james murez: it's absurd to expect the public or the people on the committee to have to put in that kind of devotion and time to be able to participate.

1873
03:08:20.670 --> 03:08:35.460
james murez: So i'm open to doing it, however, the rest of you guys want to do data domain emotion, it was seconded let's put this up or down now, and if we want to divide it into two if somebody wants to make an alternate motion I would be happy to entertain that as well.

1874
03:08:36.720 --> 03:08:42.540
daff: I think I may have just with the our last procedurally I think we're on mike's motion to move this.

1875
03:08:42.600 --> 03:08:45.000
melissa diner: Is Andrea psychic.

1876
03:08:45.600 --> 03:08:47.430
james murez: yeah oh i'm sorry.

1877
03:08:48.000 --> 03:08:49.230
daff: yeah yeah so.

1878
03:08:49.410 --> 03:08:51.480
daff: I think it's my explosion to move it back up.

1879
03:08:51.510 --> 03:08:53.040
daff: By five said.

1880
03:08:53.970 --> 03:08:57.870
james murez: So unless anybody wants to make an alternate motion at this point let's take a vote on.

1881
03:08:58.920 --> 03:08:59.760
james murez: On my emotion.

1882
03:09:01.980 --> 03:09:07.560
melissa diner: mean, can I just make one more comment, since everyone made double comments and that's not really our policy.

1883
03:09:09.360 --> 03:09:10.800
james murez: I didn't know, we had a policy for that.

1884
03:09:10.830 --> 03:09:18.570
melissa diner: Okay, go ahead, we have, we have a it's usually read unless you rewrote it and i'm unaware, but all reread whatever you did.

1885
03:09:18.960 --> 03:09:29.940
melissa diner: is just that, like sure we can vote on this, but like understand that why this happened in the beginning, is because it was getting out of hand, and the President can executive Lee make this decision to move it again so.

1886
03:09:30.150 --> 03:09:44.730
melissa diner: We can continue to do this, and like be here till 10pm on add column when we can be out of here at 830 or we can note that, for the future for everyone that just debated this, and now you can vote if anyone has doesn't have another comment.

1887
03:09:47.130 --> 03:09:48.210
james murez: Take the boat so.

1888
03:09:53.730 --> 03:09:54.180
melissa diner: Jim.

1889
03:09:54.810 --> 03:09:56.640
melissa diner: Yes, that's it oh.

1890
03:09:58.710 --> 03:09:59.100
daff: No.

1891
03:09:59.970 --> 03:10:01.350
melissa diner: I don't know we go.

1892
03:10:03.450 --> 03:10:06.900
Nico Ruderman: i'm gonna vote yes comment that I think this needs to have further discussion.

1893
03:10:08.850 --> 03:10:12.600
melissa diner: Okay, when you vote, you have to just say yes or no.

1894
03:10:12.990 --> 03:10:13.320
Yes.

1895
03:10:15.390 --> 03:10:16.140
melissa diner: Andrea.

1896
03:10:19.020 --> 03:10:19.530
james murez: unmute.

1897
03:10:21.210 --> 03:10:24.660
james murez: unmute unmute you have to unmute oh.

1898
03:10:25.590 --> 03:10:27.090
Andrea Boccaletti: That would be great if emotion can be.

1899
03:10:27.090 --> 03:10:28.920
melissa diner: Read again, no, no.

1900
03:10:29.190 --> 03:10:34.770
melissa diner: Is yes or no there's no comment, when you vote the comment is when we comment so, is it, yes or no.

1901
03:10:35.130 --> 03:10:37.410
Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, yes to the beginning.

1902
03:10:37.620 --> 03:10:56.340
james murez: tight timeout Melissa, let me just tell everybody we haven't had this orientation, one of the Rules that is robert's rules as soon as the motion is called for a vote you allowed to say one of three things, yes, and you can say it by saying yea.

1903
03:10:57.630 --> 03:11:09.180
james murez: High whatever no or abstain, no other discussion is allowed to take place during the vote cycle now please continue.

1904
03:11:13.110 --> 03:11:13.920
Andrea Boccaletti: Yes.

1905
03:11:16.290 --> 03:11:16.890
Andrea Boccaletti: Bravo.

1906
03:11:17.430 --> 03:11:19.620
melissa diner: Yes, Ali been.

1907
03:11:21.090 --> 03:11:22.290
daff: A few votes, yes.

1908
03:11:22.530 --> 03:11:24.840
melissa diner: If she's not here, we cannot.

1909
03:11:25.800 --> 03:11:31.560
daff: go there, right now, she just can't hear she's on she can't her connection isn't strong enough.

1910
03:11:32.820 --> 03:11:33.060
melissa diner: She.

1911
03:11:33.870 --> 03:11:37.260
melissa diner: Is she President visually his presidency.

1912
03:11:37.650 --> 03:11:39.570
daff: She is not on, as a panelist.

1913
03:11:39.870 --> 03:11:50.430
melissa diner: But that honestly I don't think we can set that precedent, like you, we've never allowed someone to both that isn't present in a zoom meeting I mean i'm in a.

1914
03:11:51.300 --> 03:11:52.200
daff: Meeting Melissa.

1915
03:11:52.560 --> 03:11:54.840
melissa diner: she's not I just looked on the thing.

1916
03:11:54.900 --> 03:11:58.110
daff: she's not there i'm looking at it right now she just texted me i'm here I.

1917
03:11:59.070 --> 03:11:59.760
Mike Bravo: know I can.

1918
03:12:00.270 --> 03:12:02.520
daff: Honestly you're creating problems here whether or not.

1919
03:12:02.880 --> 03:12:03.150
I.

1920
03:12:04.440 --> 03:12:04.740
daff: mean.

1921
03:12:05.370 --> 03:12:14.550
melissa diner: I don't see it i'm just making sure I mean i'm being honest I really genuinely want to make sure, and I honestly don't she's not in my screen Ivan do you see her.

1922
03:12:15.480 --> 03:12:17.280
daff: Yes, she just dropped off.

1923
03:12:18.300 --> 03:12:22.860
daff: Back on because she's having connectivity issues but she's she's been on i'm.

1924
03:12:23.130 --> 03:12:32.850
james murez: Speaking for because timeout timeout timeout let's just i'm in what do we do I don't see her in the list oh there she's in the list let's promote her.

1925
03:12:33.960 --> 03:12:35.220
james murez: About two panelists.

1926
03:12:37.410 --> 03:12:39.000
james murez: Okay, just happened okay.

1927
03:12:40.050 --> 03:12:43.380
james murez: i'm holly your their thumbs up or thumbs down.

1928
03:12:45.030 --> 03:12:46.050
james murez: She has her thumb up.

1929
03:12:46.050 --> 03:12:48.180
Ivan: Melissa yeah my see her.

1930
03:12:49.770 --> 03:12:51.090
melissa diner: Oh, I see her yes.

1931
03:12:51.090 --> 03:12:52.890
Ivan: Thank you, thank you.

1932
03:12:53.040 --> 03:12:55.140
james murez: Thank you okay continued I.

1933
03:12:56.820 --> 03:12:57.120
melissa diner: said.

1934
03:12:57.840 --> 03:12:59.430
melissa diner: Yes, thank you.

1935
03:13:09.630 --> 03:13:10.740
melissa diner: It gets moved up.

1936
03:13:11.430 --> 03:13:18.900
james murez: What was the boat Melissa 1-234-562-2622.

1937
03:13:20.010 --> 03:13:30.150
james murez: Okay, thank you so that that motion to move it up we're going to put it directly after I believe the comment was after the treasures.

1938
03:13:30.570 --> 03:13:33.990
melissa diner: know after number five or after the treacherous.

1939
03:13:35.580 --> 03:13:37.440
Mike Bravo: Budget and finance side.

1940
03:13:38.400 --> 03:13:41.550
melissa diner: After so number eight typically.

1941
03:13:43.140 --> 03:13:43.680
james murez: Okay.

1942
03:13:45.300 --> 03:13:45.960
Ivan: Okay.

1943
03:13:46.470 --> 03:13:53.400
james murez: All right, so now we have 13 and 14 and.

1944
03:13:54.480 --> 03:13:55.800
Ivan: Get 1314 and.

1945
03:13:55.800 --> 03:13:58.620
1515.

1946
03:13:59.940 --> 03:14:01.680
james murez: And 15 it's automatic work.

1947
03:14:02.490 --> 03:14:03.600
Ivan: I know, but you have to.

1948
03:14:03.690 --> 03:14:05.130
james murez: I hear that, thank you, I do.

1949
03:14:05.400 --> 03:14:06.810
james murez: we're doing okay Ivan Thank you.

1950
03:14:07.020 --> 03:14:09.120
james murez: know, let me just make a.

1951
03:14:10.140 --> 03:14:18.210
james murez: slight modification to this dnc announcements and reports at this point, it only shows for line items there.

1952
03:14:19.980 --> 03:14:27.120
james murez: This is this this section of dnc announcements and reports, this is what was on the previous boards.

1953
03:14:29.610 --> 03:14:41.640
james murez: What do you call it agenda and going forward we're going to make this committee reports as well, so all of the committee's will be given the opportunity to make a report at this point in time.

1954
03:14:42.090 --> 03:14:54.840
james murez: Hopefully we can do it all within 15 minutes, hopefully it'll be very quick reports, but I would like everybody that's interested in hearing and stays up until five minutes before 11 or 20 minutes before 11 depending on how much time we have.

1955
03:14:56.130 --> 03:15:12.060
james murez: To be able to hear what the committee's are working on and what their reports are all about so this will be amended as we go forward and start having our committees function again okay so let's do I hear a motion for those last three items that would be.

1956
03:15:12.360 --> 03:15:13.890
daff: 13 I will make that motion.

1957
03:15:14.640 --> 03:15:15.810
daff: Jason can make the motion.

1958
03:15:17.640 --> 03:15:17.970
james murez: Oh.

1959
03:15:18.390 --> 03:15:19.290
Just Jason.

1960
03:15:21.030 --> 03:15:22.380
james murez: unmute Jason yep.

1961
03:15:22.650 --> 03:15:31.800
Jason Sugars: So sorry i'm wondering, did we did we skip the Freddie five that thing I thought we moved it to a part of place in the meeting earlier than these numbers.

1962
03:15:32.100 --> 03:15:33.420
james murez: yeah we did it was.

1963
03:15:35.310 --> 03:15:41.400
james murez: It was moved up to 11 I think it was going between 11 C and D, let me just look real quick.

1964
03:15:43.440 --> 03:15:50.160
james murez: yeah I was going after the neighborhood the selection of the neighborhood committee and before the ad hoc committees.

1965
03:15:52.650 --> 03:16:01.140
james murez: it's an appointment so it's going up there, thank you Okay, so we had a motion that definitely you make the motion.

1966
03:16:03.000 --> 03:16:03.240
daff: i'm.

1967
03:16:04.500 --> 03:16:06.090
james murez: Okay, and we do we have a second.

1968
03:16:08.490 --> 03:16:08.970
Mike Bravo: A second.

1969
03:16:09.780 --> 03:16:13.470
james murez: Mike seconded we have any public comment.

1970
03:16:13.500 --> 03:16:15.510
daff: which really you have Nick answer the cello.

1971
03:16:17.430 --> 03:16:19.500
daff: And Nick why don't you go ahead and talk.

1972
03:16:20.640 --> 03:16:26.250
james murez: Erica more give me a couple seconds more any other this last chance to public comment tonight.

1973
03:16:28.230 --> 03:16:30.720
james murez: it's not 11 o'clock yet so 10.

1974
03:16:30.750 --> 03:16:31.170
Nick Antonicello: times.

1975
03:16:31.290 --> 03:16:34.320
Nick Antonicello: You know, I just wanted to make a housekeeping comment.

1976
03:16:34.590 --> 03:16:35.010
james murez: Yes.

1977
03:16:35.130 --> 03:16:50.340
Nick Antonicello: If a board member is going to vote, and they asked to restate the motion that's proper it can ask to restate the motion before they go, you can ask someone you can't deny them the opportunity when I asked to restate the motion, thank you.

1978
03:16:50.820 --> 03:17:05.070
james murez: Thank you good point, and then there were just talking about during the vote cycle if somebody doesn't understand the motion, they are allowed to ask, they have the motion restate it they can't be discussing it, but they can ask Procedurally, what is the motion.

1979
03:17:05.460 --> 03:17:08.340
Ivan: It should happen before voting starts.

1980
03:17:09.420 --> 03:17:11.850
james murez: Okay, thank you for that clarification.

1981
03:17:13.020 --> 03:17:14.130
daff: Erica go ahead.

1982
03:17:15.270 --> 03:17:25.380
Erica Moore: hi I actually was gonna say something about that is very disturbing to see somebody just wanting to understand what they're voting on, and for them to be shut down like that was really inappropriate.

1983
03:17:25.890 --> 03:17:36.780
Erica Moore: um I think that it wouldn't make sense, especially when a conversation is happening and stewing about something that's emotion and there's a lot of confusion, because there was talking about changing it and all these different things.

1984
03:17:37.050 --> 03:17:43.860
Erica Moore: I think it just makes sense and it's common sense to be able to state what exactly you're going to vote on right before you vote on.

1985
03:17:44.400 --> 03:17:48.690
Erica Moore: I just It just seems to make it clear, so everybody is put on what they're doing.

1986
03:17:49.110 --> 03:17:54.420
Erica Moore: I appreciate you guys your time and I just want to end by saying I don't know if you can just.

1987
03:17:54.720 --> 03:18:05.760
Erica Moore: blanket Lee decide to end the meetings and 11 o'clock I think there might be some rules about that, I think that I don't know how that works, but that doesn't seem to be right thanks so much you guys bye bye.

1988
03:18:07.350 --> 03:18:12.900
daff: Thank you so much Erica um and Lisa you'll be the last public comment go ahead.

1989
03:18:14.970 --> 03:18:29.550
Lisa Redmond: yeah Eric is right, I think you need to have a change in your bylaws before you can arbitrarily decide to end the meeting with lots of unfinished business I Since this is my last opportunity for public comment i'm really disappointed that those formulas committee.

1990
03:18:30.570 --> 03:18:36.870
Lisa Redmond: motions were pushed aside, especially now when you've announced that you may very well not meet in September.

1991
03:18:37.560 --> 03:18:42.120
Lisa Redmond: So that's really delaying them for two months, and then you kind of push them aside and delayed them with.

1992
03:18:43.080 --> 03:18:50.520
Lisa Redmond: Well they'll all get together to talk about it and come up with one mission statement, but I don't know who those other two motion writers are.

1993
03:18:51.090 --> 03:18:59.070
Lisa Redmond: So how are we supposed to do that, you say, we all know each other, but I don't know who those are, and this is also the second month that my motion was postponed.

1994
03:18:59.460 --> 03:19:09.180
Lisa Redmond: So i'm just putting that out there that it's disappointing and I wasn't given an opportunity to discuss that those motions are all very different and separate.

1995
03:19:09.630 --> 03:19:18.540
Lisa Redmond: And should be considered individually, but if you want us to get together, then contact us and let us know who we are, so we can try and figure this out, thank you.

1996
03:19:19.350 --> 03:19:20.070
james murez: Thank you.

1997
03:19:20.610 --> 03:19:31.080
daff: thanks for that comment listen, let me just say something on that I will connect all of you, this has all been a lot of moving parts in the last couple days and we a lot of stuff flying in for this.

1998
03:19:31.590 --> 03:19:42.270
daff: But some things we got so late, it was hot okay for so you could get on the outcome agenda so Lisa I will reach out to you and.

1999
03:19:43.920 --> 03:19:51.510
daff: You know, hopefully, I have worked with whoever wants to work together to come up with a good concise homeless committee statement.

2000
03:19:54.300 --> 03:19:54.690
daff: that's it.

2001
03:19:56.580 --> 03:19:57.180
james murez: Okay.

2002
03:19:58.470 --> 03:20:01.800
james murez: I think at that point, we have to now go back to.

2003
03:20:01.860 --> 03:20:03.150
Ivan: No, no, you have to take your vote.

2004
03:20:04.350 --> 03:20:05.760
melissa diner: Our board comment and.

2005
03:20:06.780 --> 03:20:09.120
james murez: We have to go back oh on those.

2006
03:20:10.500 --> 03:20:11.610
Ivan: 1314 and.

2007
03:20:11.610 --> 03:20:15.750
james murez: 15 on the I you're right you're right i'm jumping ahead, I got I lost track.

2008
03:20:15.810 --> 03:20:21.270
james murez: sorry about that okay um so Melissa go ahead and take about.

2009
03:20:23.850 --> 03:20:24.960
melissa diner: know why comment.

2010
03:20:25.920 --> 03:20:27.570
james murez: Though you want to make work come i'm sorry.

2011
03:20:28.860 --> 03:20:30.600
james murez: I guess it's getting close to 11 o'clock.

2012
03:20:31.560 --> 03:20:32.100
i'm.

2013
03:20:33.150 --> 03:20:35.310
james murez: Go ahead, do you want to make a comment, Melissa.

2014
03:20:38.940 --> 03:20:41.190
melissa diner: No, I don't have a comment.

2015
03:20:42.180 --> 03:20:44.430
james murez: Okay anybody else have a comment.

2016
03:20:46.830 --> 03:20:48.510
james murez: Okay now where you take a book.

2017
03:20:49.050 --> 03:20:50.610
james murez: Jim yes.

2018
03:20:51.000 --> 03:20:55.200
melissa diner: that's it Oh yes, oh yes NICO.

2019
03:21:00.000 --> 03:21:01.740
james murez: NICO gotta unmute.

2020
03:21:05.130 --> 03:21:06.090
james murez: Know you're still muted.

2021
03:21:07.740 --> 03:21:08.280
Nico Ruderman: And I hear me.

2022
03:21:08.310 --> 03:21:09.210
james murez: Yes, yeah there we go.

2023
03:21:09.240 --> 03:21:10.920
melissa diner: Yes, and jam.

2024
03:21:14.790 --> 03:21:15.360
melissa diner: jam.

2025
03:21:18.390 --> 03:21:18.990
Andrea Boccaletti: Staying.

2026
03:21:22.230 --> 03:21:23.520
melissa diner: My bravo.

2027
03:21:24.000 --> 03:21:24.540
Yes.

2028
03:21:25.920 --> 03:21:26.490
melissa diner: Ali.

2029
03:21:27.780 --> 03:21:29.190
daff: She has left the meeting.

2030
03:21:32.940 --> 03:21:34.110
melissa diner: Jason sugars.

2031
03:21:34.770 --> 03:21:35.280
yay.

2032
03:21:38.190 --> 03:21:44.430
melissa diner: Well, I just want to reiterate that I got an email from empower late today that I have to notate.

2033
03:21:44.820 --> 03:21:57.030
melissa diner: When you arrive, and when you leave So if you don't announce it I won't notice it and it's not my problem, so you have to announce when you arrive and announced when you leave if it's not at the beginning, or that Thank you.

2034
03:21:57.900 --> 03:22:04.470
james murez: Melissa would you do me a favor and remind me, I want to reach out to zoom and find out if they can tell us that automatically.

2035
03:22:05.190 --> 03:22:12.030
daff: And and, by the way, in this instance, this is my bad I told her, I would say i'm wearing flow conversation alley left the meeting at 10:15pm.

2036
03:22:12.840 --> 03:22:15.390
james murez: And we're not quite sure we have to go back.

2037
03:22:15.450 --> 03:22:19.380
Ivan: Please go back to the Ad common agenda and invite him fix.

2038
03:22:19.440 --> 03:22:40.560
james murez: that's just what I was doing Okay, we have to go back to the Ad COM agenda it's down at the bottom of page six of seven it's Item number six consideration and approval of August 17 2021 draft board agenda, so I need a motion, I think we already have emotion in the second to the you.

2039
03:22:41.010 --> 03:22:42.090
Ivan: know you need a motion.

2040
03:22:42.210 --> 03:22:44.250
james murez: I need emotion and then I need a second.

2041
03:22:46.140 --> 03:22:47.550
Mike Bravo: was so cool and.

2042
03:22:48.390 --> 03:22:50.670
melissa diner: Like you want to make the motion seconded.

2043
03:22:52.830 --> 03:22:53.700
james murez: can't hear you Mike.

2044
03:22:54.210 --> 03:23:00.870
Mike Bravo: Yes, yes i'm make a motion to approve the August 17 21 draft board agenda.

2045
03:23:04.470 --> 03:23:05.160
james murez: Okay.

2046
03:23:06.690 --> 03:23:09.000
james murez: I guess, we have to take public comment on this, I suppose.

2047
03:23:09.600 --> 03:23:11.100
james murez: No okay this.

2048
03:23:11.130 --> 03:23:15.630
Ivan: Procedural every works, already been done this formally approved it.

2049
03:23:15.870 --> 03:23:20.130
james murez: Okay, any discussion no discussion all milicic go ahead and take the boat.

2050
03:23:29.370 --> 03:23:30.390
melissa diner: i'm Jim.

2051
03:23:30.540 --> 03:23:30.990
Yes.

2052
03:23:33.360 --> 03:23:33.870
Yes.

2053
03:23:34.950 --> 03:23:35.940
melissa diner: Yes, NICO.

2054
03:23:37.470 --> 03:23:37.680
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

2055
03:23:38.580 --> 03:23:40.170
Andrea Boccaletti: And jack yes.

2056
03:23:40.710 --> 03:23:42.840
Mike Bravo: Mike yes.

2057
03:23:43.440 --> 03:23:46.680
melissa diner: It is not present and Jim Jason chocolates.

2058
03:23:47.040 --> 03:23:47.730
yea.

2059
03:23:48.750 --> 03:23:49.440
costs.

2060
03:23:51.300 --> 03:23:51.870
james murez: Okay.

2061
03:23:53.700 --> 03:23:54.060
james murez: We are.

2062
03:23:54.480 --> 03:23:56.250
james murez: Leading we are officially.

2063
03:23:56.280 --> 03:24:06.900
Mike Bravo: adjourn Jim real quick quick quick question about when did lpc and committee applicants get announced or where can people find it out.

2064
03:24:07.830 --> 03:24:13.770
melissa diner: they'll be posted in the agenda of the board meeting with the name and the link to their application.

2065
03:24:15.060 --> 03:24:28.440
james murez: So we're going to be providing you a redacted version of the application so whatever people wrote about their qualifications you'll be able to review those prior to the board meeting.

2066
03:24:28.800 --> 03:24:41.550
james murez: Now let me just make it very clear, we already had a complaint that people were doing campaigning about an individual should or should not be on a committee.

2067
03:24:42.690 --> 03:24:43.590
james murez: selection.

2068
03:24:44.730 --> 03:24:45.930
james murez: That is.

2069
03:24:46.950 --> 03:24:49.920
james murez: very, very, very sensitive.

2070
03:24:52.350 --> 03:24:56.820
james murez: Procedurally, because of brown potential of brown act violations.

2071
03:24:58.050 --> 03:25:04.170
james murez: As a board, we have to respect the brown Act and the brown act says that.

2072
03:25:05.220 --> 03:25:17.460
james murez: there's 21 of us on the board, which means that the quorum is 11 and you can't have a conversation with more than 50% of the quorum so that would.

2073
03:25:17.460 --> 03:25:20.700
Ivan: be wise to get with the majority of the corner.

2074
03:25:20.820 --> 03:25:24.630
james murez: With the majority of the quorum, a majority of the quorum would be.

2075
03:25:24.810 --> 03:25:25.980
james murez: sick people.

2076
03:25:26.430 --> 03:25:35.040
james murez: And that means that it's five people can have a conversation so that means to you and for others now take that to the next level.

2077
03:25:35.550 --> 03:25:44.160
james murez: If you have a conversation with four other people, and one of those other people has a conversation with just one more person.

2078
03:25:44.820 --> 03:25:53.820
james murez: The violation just occurred it's called a serial meeting so you have to be extremely careful in conducting meetings.

2079
03:25:54.420 --> 03:26:03.690
james murez: of any kind it's not just about this selection process, but any discussion of any item that may be coming before the board and it's a future item.

2080
03:26:04.470 --> 03:26:11.610
james murez: So if it's something that we haven't even heard yet, and you start having conversations with four or five people at a dinner party or whatever you're doing.

2081
03:26:13.080 --> 03:26:19.200
james murez: You got to be super careful that you don't end up in a situation where you and four other board members.

2082
03:26:20.400 --> 03:26:32.430
james murez: are having this conversation and by accident somebody goes and talks to a fifth one, because what happens at that point is you become disqualified for being able to participate on that item when it comes before the board.

2083
03:26:33.750 --> 03:26:43.560
james murez: So if you want to vote for somebody that you think should be on a committee you don't want to go and screw yourself by having a conversation sending out an email.

2084
03:26:44.340 --> 03:26:52.680
james murez: That sends it out to 10 people, because if you do you just disqualified yourself now they don't respond they're still allowed to do it.

2085
03:26:53.880 --> 03:26:58.140
james murez: Okay, I just want everybody to understand that that we've already had one complaint.

2086
03:26:58.650 --> 03:27:10.050
james murez: about this going on, we want to be super careful about it, not going on, we want to keep things at very, very clean and aboveboard and and I don't want to go on and on about this Jason you have your hand up, we have a question.

2087
03:27:11.520 --> 03:27:14.730
Jason Sugars: i'm still gonna you're gonna kill me did I miss the Freddie thing.

2088
03:27:16.020 --> 03:27:18.960
james murez: know the Freddie Freddie thing is an appointment.

2089
03:27:19.530 --> 03:27:28.650
james murez: Okay, I will end up appointing the five people, it was just a question of getting it stuffed into the agenda in the right place.

2090
03:27:28.800 --> 03:27:29.640
Jason Sugars: gotcha Thank you.

2091
03:27:29.940 --> 03:27:30.930
Ivan: know, I think.

2092
03:27:31.230 --> 03:27:31.740
james murez: Jim.

2093
03:27:32.010 --> 03:27:36.720
Ivan: Yes, I think, for civic you the Board has to approve it or that's the ratify it.

2094
03:27:37.200 --> 03:27:37.770
james murez: Okay.

2095
03:27:38.010 --> 03:27:39.870
james murez: So that means that the Board will be.

2096
03:27:39.990 --> 03:27:43.530
james murez: Making the final decision on those five Members.

2097
03:27:44.070 --> 03:27:45.120
james murez: Okay okay.

2098
03:27:45.150 --> 03:27:45.660
Ivan: So why.

2099
03:27:46.890 --> 03:27:51.000
james murez: I haven't read it yet i'm not sure exactly what it is, it came in late this afternoon.

2100
03:27:51.570 --> 03:27:51.990
melissa diner: And I.

2101
03:27:52.350 --> 03:27:54.330
james murez: i'm saying yes, by all means, please.

2102
03:27:54.720 --> 03:28:04.500
melissa diner: i'm just beyond bummed out because i'm literally looking at like three agendas, which has never been the case that I have to now edit into one.

2103
03:28:04.920 --> 03:28:17.340
melissa diner: On top of that, I just feel like we have no training before we're forced fed what we have to do because of always because of the bylaws because of the Standing roles.

2104
03:28:17.670 --> 03:28:27.030
melissa diner: And it's just absolute bs we don't have to do anything we could get reelected as a new board and we could reset anything we want to.

2105
03:28:27.330 --> 03:28:34.080
melissa diner: And then move forward I just feel like we we forced something when no one knows what they're even doing.

2106
03:28:34.380 --> 03:28:48.120
melissa diner: And we have to correct that moving forward with rules and selections it's not fair it's not fair that we have people that just like jump in and that I have to deal with like this frustration of it like completely being changed in a way that we've.

2107
03:28:48.120 --> 03:28:48.720
melissa diner: never done.

2108
03:28:48.840 --> 03:28:52.050
melissa diner: Before like there has to be some type of.

2109
03:28:52.770 --> 03:28:58.980
melissa diner: format to what always is consistent and then also like when we change over to the new board.

2110
03:28:59.220 --> 03:29:07.110
melissa diner: We can't just force people into something new that they don't even know what they're talking about, I feel, like all we do is talk at the new board members.

2111
03:29:07.440 --> 03:29:12.780
melissa diner: And that's our it's exhausting for me, so I can't even imagine what it feels like for them.

2112
03:29:13.080 --> 03:29:30.030
melissa diner: And this is just the first step at the agenda meetings like we have to do better i'm so sick of it, like the only reason i'm so here is because I will not tolerate the level that we're at it's not fair to us it's not fair to the new board members and it's not fair to the Community.

2113
03:29:31.260 --> 03:29:42.480
james murez: Agreed, and I will be happy to work with you and get those three agendas to figure out what happened there is that I take that upon myself for not sharing that with you, before the meeting I should have done that I did think of it.

2114
03:29:42.810 --> 03:29:48.390
james murez: You didn't think of it, it was just something that happened it slipped through the woodwork and hopefully won't ever happen again.

2115
03:29:49.680 --> 03:29:58.680
james murez: And as far as as sticking with the old rules it's something that we're stuck with Melissa we can't just arbitrarily change the rules at the first meeting.

2116
03:29:59.550 --> 03:30:10.350
james murez: will bring it up and and I hear you and I agree with a lot of what you said, we want to make change, we want to fix things that are broken, we want to streamline this so everybody feels like.

2117
03:30:10.620 --> 03:30:23.130
james murez: we're not getting beat up and we're not getting tormented by by poor procedural things let's work together when rules and selections gets back on board and they start operating.

2118
03:30:24.300 --> 03:30:29.850
james murez: We can bring these things up, we can make bylaws changes, but for right now we have to stick with the bylaws that we have.

2119
03:30:31.920 --> 03:30:32.880
james murez: anybody else want to.

2120
03:30:34.350 --> 03:30:40.590
james murez: talk this is so, just so you guys know you need to, especially the new people I don't know Mike if you were ever on the board at the time but.

2121
03:30:41.340 --> 03:30:48.000
james murez: The rest of you, I think, have been participating in actually this just myself and Melissa tap the domain daffodil for sure.

2122
03:30:48.750 --> 03:31:00.750
james murez: After the meetings we used to go and have a drink across the street when house was over there, and so this is this little conversation we're having at this point i'm i'm thinking of this this is.

2123
03:31:01.380 --> 03:31:07.530
james murez: You know we're just getting together and chatting about you know how we can make it a better group, how we can work better together.

2124
03:31:07.860 --> 03:31:21.030
james murez: And if we were allowed to have a retreat which we're not allowed to have the city has now said absolutely not i've asked to go before Bob, which is the board of neighborhood Commissioners and make the request to have an outdoor retreat perhaps at the park.

2125
03:31:22.140 --> 03:31:28.590
james murez: At this point, they've said no, no meetings whatsoever supposedly it was something that was handed down by the mayor.

2126
03:31:28.980 --> 03:31:44.940
james murez: And, and it just doesn't make sense, because the CDC and the health department both say we can meet outdoors but, for whatever reason, the city says no, but we could do the orientation which I think would help solver cancer, a lot of these questions yeah all right.

2127
03:31:45.150 --> 03:31:46.740
Ivan: Jim is leading adjourned.

2128
03:31:46.860 --> 03:31:48.480
james murez: The meeting was adjourned several minutes.

2129
03:31:49.380 --> 03:31:51.900
Ivan: All right, then you can talk about anything you want.

2130
03:31:52.080 --> 03:31:52.590
james murez: yeah yeah.

2131
03:31:53.700 --> 03:31:56.070
daff: i'll go out for drinks after the next one.

2132
03:31:56.460 --> 03:31:58.770
james murez: I hope I mean you know it'd be nice but.

2133
03:32:00.780 --> 03:32:03.780
james murez: Okay, nothing else i'm going to close this meeting.

2134
03:32:04.950 --> 03:32:06.810
daff: anybody wants to want everyone.

2135
03:32:07.020 --> 03:32:07.980
Coming and let's go.

2136
03:32:09.990 --> 03:32:10.200
daff: Right.

2137
03:32:12.360 --> 03:32:13.650
Ivan: Great job tonight.

2138
03:32:13.740 --> 03:32:14.400
james murez: Thank you.

2139
03:32:15.360 --> 03:32:16.920
Mike Bravo: All the fun everybody have a good night.