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jim murez: Test. 1, 2,

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jim murez: test, 1, 2

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jim murez: capital. I'm promoting you.

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jim murez: Robert. I'm promoting you.

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jim murez: Good evening. Can you hear me?

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Daffodil Tyminski: I can hear you

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robertthibodeau: large and clear.

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jim murez: awesome. So we are. We are out of power. But i'll explain that in a minute. Is that due to me? Yeah, you know, power to the people, or something.

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jim murez: You to people I don't know. Is it duty? Oh, you know the whole neighborhood is out.

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jim murez: Is that you to me?

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jim murez: I guess I guess trees are down all over. That's probably due to me.

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robertthibodeau: Let's not go there.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah.

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Daffodil Tyminski: all right. I'm gonna keep working on trying to get this meeting ready, dappado. I'm gonna make you co-host. In the meantime I have to bring up the agenda and stuff

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robertthibodeau: that flower

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jim murez: she's in the desert. I understand. Oh, she's got power. Yeah, yeah, we have, although we've had really bad weather here, too. But

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Daffodil Tyminski: my sister is out for the day.

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jim murez: Vicki's power went down also. I understand. I think everything from from all of dog Town is down everything, from Main Street to Pacific.

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jim murez: and as far down to witward as I can see, and up to Rose, anyway.

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robertthibodeau: Well.

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Daffodil Tyminski: my neighbor said that they thought they'd be restoring power at around 8 30.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I am informed by Erica Moore, that East Venice is not down.

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jim murez: Good.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah. And I can report from little Italy.

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robertthibodeau: I'm trying to get that one to catch Jim

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robertthibodeau: because we get Boccaccio Venetia, that that that that the

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Daffodil Tyminski: I'm keeping an eye out, Jim. I just don't see anybody else.

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jim murez: Okay, good.

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robertthibodeau: solely just texted me that power power is out at her place, too, so she may be having trouble getting on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yeah, she's right behind me. Yeah.

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robertthibodeau: I actually think she is at her mom's, and it's out there.

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jim murez: Hmm! That's out in all of it, or something.

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jim murez: What time to start the meeting.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Michael, I need you to accept being a panelist Here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: there we go.

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Michael Jensen: Oh, sorry I was talking, and I was muted so. Hello!

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Daffodil Tyminski: Hi, there!

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jim murez: I'm promoting Mike. Bravo!

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jim murez: I'm promoting.

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Alley Bean: Hey, everybody!

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Alley Bean: I look at that I just came in from the rain. Oh, God!

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Alley Bean: Nice tops! And those

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Alley Bean: Oh, and to unmute but nice glasses there, Alley.

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Alley Bean: I'll take whatever I can get

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CJ Cole: just heard from stall again the power or power just for now. Yeah, mine had 2,

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Daffodil Tyminski: Jim. Should I promote Freddy and Ivan?

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jim murez: Let's get a few more board members so we can. It's easier to count

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Alley Bean: some water.

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you know.

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jim murez: There we go now we got. We got a quorum, I believe.

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jim murez: Nico. I'm promoting you.

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jim murez: 1 2 3 4 5 6, like 1011. Yeah. So we've got 11. Let's start the meeting.

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jim murez: Pretty i'm going to promote you. although i'm not sure why at this point, but we'll give you a see it as a panel person.

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Let's see what it is.

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jim murez: 11 is here. Ivan, as well

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jim murez: make it over.

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jim murez: Okay.

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Mike Bravo: Hello, everybody.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Hi there!

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Ivan: Yeah. I'm here.

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jim murez: Okay, let's let's get this started. Daffodil. If you can continue to monitor

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jim murez: later rivals. That would be great. I'm going to share my screen and we'll start the meeting.

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jim murez: Let's see. Do we have everything set up the way.

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jim murez: the belief? So okay.

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jim murez: welcome folks. This meeting is going to be held.

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jim murez: not in my usual place. Oh, wait! I get the wrong phone.

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jim murez: Hold on wrong place. Let me go back here.

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jim murez: Okay. this record.

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jim murez: Okay.

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jim murez: So

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jim murez: I call the meeting to order. The time is 6 to 5.

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Wait a first copy. Let's do roll call. James Paris. I'm here to

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Daffodil Tyminski: here.

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jim murez: Thank you. Melissa.

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jay handal: Jay, yup.

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Bruno Hernandez: vicki

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jim murez: brutal Here. See about

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jim murez: Nico

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Nico Ruderman: here.

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jim murez: Jim Rob.

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jim murez: chasing sugars

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Alley Bean: here.

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jim murez: Kyla

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jim murez: Mike Problem

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Mike Bravo: here.

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jim murez: So whatever so it

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Soledad Ursua: here.

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jim murez: Oh, you've made it good. Cj.

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CJ Cole: Here.

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jim murez: Elizabeth Clay.

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jim murez: Robert Timido Here.

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Michael Jensen: somebody's gonna mute their

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jim murez: that was all.

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Michael Jensen: I'm. Here twice.

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jim murez: Patrick.

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Patrick McKinley: There.

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jim murez: Great Okay, so we have a pretty good but

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jim murez: quorum tonight let me just mention that power is out all over Venice at this point i'm actually working from a neighbor's house, because he his power, is still on. I believe Vicki's power is off, and and i'm glad that solid had made it. I heard her power was off earlier.

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jim murez: It wouldn't surprise me at all if the power goes off. If that happens and the meeting does end abruptly, because power where I am gets disconnected, I will try and restart the meeting as soon as I find more power.

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jim murez: But other than that, I can't promise you that the meeting will continue after the power gets disconnected, because there's not a whole lot we can do. Daffodil, you're out in the desert. You're a co-host If power does go off

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jim murez: the meeting would automatically transfer over to you. and you would have You would have to

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jim murez: continue to conduct the meeting and and maintain the minutes by paper and pencil. I assume I would try to get back on by my cell phone and anybody else it could that lost power. Also, they may want to get back on by cell phone as well.

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Daffodil Tyminski: having severe weather here, too, as well, Jim. Just so, you know, when rolling power outages. But we're fine.

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jim murez: so everybody knows the rules of tonight. It's questionable whether it will be able to make it through to the end. Hopefully, we can hopefully. We can make it a quick meeting, ex parte communications. I talked to a lot of people about a lot of different things on the agenda.

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jim murez: We'll get to them as we get to them. I have nothing

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jim murez: particular to disclose other than I had conversations about stuff that is on here, including election stuff with the city.

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Clark Brown: Clark. Go ahead on. Item 19. I had 2 telephone conversations and a couple of emails with Stanley. No whack who lives next door to the subject property.

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jim murez: Okay. Michael

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jim murez: on Mute.

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Michael Jensen: Sorry. Yeah. I've I've had conversations on Number 19 with both the applicant, the applicants architect, Stanley and the neighbor.

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Michael Jensen: And I think that's it.

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jim murez: Okay, Thank you, Daffodil.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I've had communications with people about the Neighborhood Committee.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I agenda items as well as one of the budget items.

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jim murez: Okay, Robert

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robertthibodeau: Robert Tiddo your hands up there. You guys

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Daffodil Tyminski: sorry, Robert. Just record. Kai and Sima are here.

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jim murez: I'm here. Okay. And who did you say, Sima.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Can you hear me?

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jim murez: Okay. go ahead, Robert.

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robertthibodeau: I've had all the parking transportation related items which I think there's a bunch on here tonight because of the backlog.

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robertthibodeau: I've had conversations with with with the

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robertthibodeau: people proposed it, and then with the city officials. you know, trying to get stuff done.

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jim murez: Very good. Thank you, Robert Ally.

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Alley Bean: I don't really know if this qualifies as expert. But I had conversations with you and with Ivan about. You know the candidate for him trying to help get it back, you know, in person.

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jim murez: Okay, we're going to hit that one at 70'clock. So yeah, we're going to have an extra special meeting. We'll interrupt this meeting at 7 and move on to that.

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jim murez: Okay, it's you there. Any other hands up up, Michelle. You have your hand up still.

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jim murez: Daffodil. You're Robert. Here's his up.

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jim murez: Okay, nobody else has expertise communications. We will continue to

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jim murez: Let's go to L. A. Pd. Daffodil. Do you see any of our Lapd members here?

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Daffodil Tyminski: I do. La Ft: If you're here, raise your hand. Okay.

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jim murez: Captain, you can go ahead and start. If you're ready.

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jim murez: you have to unmute.

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Mike Applegate: Oh.

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Mike Applegate: there you go. There we go, hey? Good evening, Everybody Glad to join you on this rainy afternoon. I'm glad it sounds like everybody here has been able to stay safe and dry, so thankful for that.

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Mike Applegate: The first thing I will mention is in addition to myself also. Officer Contrary is going to be here with us this evening she was not able to log in, and so she is on a phone last 4 at 8 9 6 8. So when the time comes, if you could promote her, she'll be the that will be the one to promote

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Mike Applegate: What i'm going to do is i'm going to give you kind of an overview of some of our deployment numbers Department wide. That does continue to be a challenge, and then i'll talk briefly about some of our crime numbers, and then senior lead Officer Contraris will be able to give you a little bit more detailed information about the crime specific to the Venice area. So

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Mike Applegate: so department of Deployment, as you probably have heard, that continues to be a challenge across all of law enforcement, and here, in lapd in particular, our numbers, we're holding for several months. At the end of last year about 9,220 officers.

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Mike Applegate: Most recently the numbers that the department put out are now 9,161,

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Mike Applegate: that, by way of comparison, compares to a high back in like 2,019

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Mike Applegate: of just over 10,000.

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Mike Applegate: And so, as those numbers have reduced and continued to reduce, it, does put a strain in terms of the resources that we put out in the field.

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Mike Applegate: and we do have what is called the patrol minimum. That is a an absolute minimum number of patrol cars that we put out every single shift.

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Mike Applegate: and we are still able to meet that. But that does become a little bit more of a juggle sometimes with other events going on.

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Mike Applegate: and part of the reason why I mentioned that is because

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Mike Applegate: is our partnership with all of you, and you know we do have lots of great reserve officers

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Mike Applegate: who dedicate their time to not only go through the Police Academy and do that on their off time and on their weekends, while they continue to maintain, You know, full time jobs and things like that. But we also have a lot of volunteers, and we are looking and thinking of ways that we can

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Mike Applegate: leverage all of those partnerships to continue to help us to do things efficiently, effectively here at the station. So if anybody is interested in volunteering, we would love to have you. So thank you. And then moving on to our general crime numbers. So this would be across all of the areas that Pacific covers but a year to date 2,023

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Mike Applegate: compared to year, to date 2,022.

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Mike Applegate: Our violent crime is down 28, point 3 So far this year.

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Mike Applegate: and then our property prime, which we track separately, is down 14.3

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Mike Applegate: year to date. And then, when you combine those 2, that's what's referred to as part. One prime

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Mike Applegate: that year to date is down 16.1.

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Mike Applegate: So that is certainly good news, that is, progress, that it steps in the right direction. Auster controllers will be able to share with you a little bit more detailed information about that. and and that being said, well, we are certainly headed in the right direction, and we like to see those reductions in crime. We certainly understand that every time somebody is victimized, whether it's a property crime or a violent prime. That is a

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Mike Applegate: somewhere between sort of a

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Mike Applegate: a hassle all the way up to a life changing event, and we certainly recognize that for the folks who are still victims of crime. We want to do everything we can to help them

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Mike Applegate: through the criminal justice process, apprehend people that need to be apprehended, and

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Mike Applegate: we can to all their cases. So

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Mike Applegate: that's all that I have right now could be with you. Thank you very much.

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jim murez: and we promoted officer. Contrace. If you want to unmute yourself, I believe you can. You're on a cell phone so we can't promote you to a panelists, but we can certainly unmute you, and you are unmuted.

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jim murez: Let me just push over here again. As to asked to unmute.

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jim murez: so

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jim murez: I think she has to press. What is it. Star 6.

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jim murez: They're starred on. I forget.

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1424****968: There you go. Can you hear me? Okay, Perfect.

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1424****968: So Senior lead Officer Moni contrers. I just wanted to give you a little bit about our stats. That would be my car, which is basic car, a 11 which goes Hampton all the way west to Ocean Front walk.

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1424****968: and then Adrian Acostas area, which goes Hampton East to Lincoln.

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1424****968: So it's looking really really good for both of our areas. The total violent crime year to date from 2,023 going looking back to 2,022. I have a 53% decrease.

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1424****968: or actually a 59% decrease in total violent crime if we're looking at part, one crime. So your burglary, your grand theft auto, your burglary, Sacramento vehicle and theft.

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1424****968: I have a 44% decrease.

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1424****968: If you're looking at Adrian's area, he actually has had 0 ag assaults

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compared to last year, where he had 11,

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1424****968: a total decrease of 64% for his violent crime.

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and a toll of 18% decrease for part, one crimes

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1424****968: So overall looking really good, I think just the collaborative efforts with city and county partners has really helped

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1424****968: see an improvement in the area for everyone, for the in-house and the house individuals One of the things that I wanted to bring up was. I am getting a lot of complaints about illegal dumping.

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Please remember that there is a 24, 7 number

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1424****968: the (180) 773-2489, you can call it there's a legal dumpy occurring also. If you have a sanitation request, always remember to put it into 3. 1. One Lapd addresses the person, not the property, but we can certainly help, you know. Get that navigated to the right place.

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1424****968: You will also start to see 41, 18, c. Sensitive site postings in certain locations throughout Venice there is a public

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1424****968: that you can Google Arc Gis 41 18, and it will show you the locations and pending locations for 41, 18, whether it includes school locations or sensitive sites.

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1424****968: And then, lastly, April ninth we'll start our deployment period 4 which will see the increase in beach officers

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1424****968: The first 2 weeks the officers will be in training. They will have a training day with city and county partners. and then they will be out there, just training on tactics, driving in Suvs and things like that out on ocean front walk.

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1424****968: That's all I have.

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jim murez: Thank you very much. It's great to hear. We really appreciate all of the crime stats that you've been able to report. It sounds like we're doing a great job, and much appreciated to hear that crime has gone down so much. It's. It's a I can tell you personally. It's at the like to see that things are finally starting to come around for us.

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jim murez: You, you're welcome to stay in the rest of the meeting, if you like. It may go on for a while yet. You have other things to do. by all means. It's a nice night to

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jim murez: cuddle up by a fireplace.

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jim murez: Do we have anyone from the fire department Here, David, Are we able to locate Lance? Was he here?

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Daffodil Tyminski: I don't think so. Okay. I don't see anyone here. Okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: we do have.

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jim murez: We have a You call in user

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jay handal: my number 6 2 6, My cell phone number.

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jim murez: Who is that? We're hearing?

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Daffodil Tyminski: I don't know.

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jim murez: Yeah, that was weird. Okay, let's go back to the meeting. They we share my screen.

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jim murez: Okay. let's go on to government reports. I did find out that Shannon Turner was not going to be able to make it. I don't believe Zach was going to be able to make it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: That's correct. I don't know about Brandon, Was he here? I don't see him, Not him.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, Brandon, yeah, oh, no, no. Sorry different. Brandon

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jim murez: is Ashley here from from a Councilwoman Parks office.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I do not see her.

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jim murez: Okay, Freddy, the floor is yours. You got a couple of minute report for us.

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jim murez: Yes, I do.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: So.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: First of all this Sunday is this neighbored Council's election. and just wanted to make sure that you all get the vote out for this contested election here.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: I do want to point out that there were concerns regarding the last meeting in February about a non Board member candidates

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: not having equal time to speak at the Board meeting

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: as a remedy. It's recommended to have a special meeting, and invite those candidates on board Member candidates to make their statements for an equal amount of time that was offered for those that were Board Member candidates.

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jim murez: Let me let me interrupt you. We had a public comment period where everybody got to speak for 1 min. and all of the Board members and the the Board members did it during the Board comment period. It was always 1 min, and we did the same thing in public comment.

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jim murez: Now, if you're talking about the Board members that were here that were elected 2 years ago, year and a half ago they were on the meeting for 6 h. Are you saying that we now need to give the non-elected board members 6 h of time to talk.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: No, no, no! Just an equal amount of time of speaking that was offered to board member

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jim murez: candidates that happened that did happen with last month meeting, and you could look at the the video recording it's been posted.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: Okay, I'm: I'm. Just reiterating the the the recommendation given to me to reiterate also

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: for the candidate Forum.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: Please note that if a board member who is a candidate

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: is, is involved with the forum, or with elections in itself.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: it's recommended to recuse or postpone the matter until you've communicated your an initial facts with with our department and city attorney's office, so that we could see, or they can make a determination as to what recommendations would be needed

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: for recusal

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: and recusal does impact quorum.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: So if there are a lot of Board members that would have to recuse themselves and their candidate, and it's about elections. and then they would feel comfortable with using. I just want to let you know that that could be a possibility.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: So keep track of your quorum throughout this meeting.

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jim murez: and or the special meeting as well. So so, Freddie, let me ask you a question about that, because we are planning a special meeting at 70'clock. I hate to interrupt you, but we need to be clear about this. The board is the one that decided that they did not want to have Canada's getting involved in the election process.

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jim murez: and and they weren't supposed to participate. If the Board now decides that they want to get involved. Is that a problem?

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jim murez: But this is not a done issue. This is a board issue.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: Yeah, that that

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: it it's like it's a catch 22, because the Board initially voted for something that those that were board members who are going to be candidates not been involved in the election. So now you've just

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: closed off the opportunity for the Board who are board members who are candidates to not get involved in anything that regards to elections. Now, if the Board tries to change that again, I would recommend that a conversation be had with the the attorney's office, and more detail as to whether that would be a matter that they would need to recuse themselves of or postpon it, so that they can have that conversation with the attorney as to what

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steps they could take as an individual board member voting on a matter that was already previously blocked by them by the Board themselves.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: because just because so

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: the Board already blocked those members who are not

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: who are who are currently candidates for this coming Sunday. which is in a couple of days to not get involved in the election process, and that you would have

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: a select number of individuals that are not running for office to manage the election and help the Nc. As best as possible with with elections.

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jim murez: Well, 13 members are running from what I understand, and that's more than a quorum. So that means that

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jim murez: the special meeting that we would need to have at 70'clock that has been scheduled cannot take place because we can't possibly have.

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jim murez: and that means that we won't end up having a candidate forum, and everybody loses because that's not only the Board members that are currently elected. It's also all of the unelected people that Haven't had a chance to speak to the community, because we can't put it together any faster than that. There is no more days left.

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jim murez: So you're basically telling us we shouldn't allow the people that have never had a chance to speak to speak.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: No, that's the reason why, I said a a recommendation would be to have a special meeting. Invite those candidates. We can do that ready within the time period allowed. It takes 24 h to post a special meeting, and then we have to have that candidate forum we don't have that many days left

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: again in my hand is up. Yeah, I see it. I'm not calling you on purpose.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: Yeah, again, with with with respect to it, though, that was the recommendation as a remedy to ensure that

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Ivan: there's equal time for all

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: candidates who are running for this Neighborhood Council. What?

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jim murez: Well, i'll let the Board decide when we get to the 70'clock meeting. Go ahead with your report.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: That was the the crux of it, because we are focused right now on elections.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: Once elections are completed on Sunday. There's a time period in which the city clerk reviews it. We'll certify the candidates.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: and then, according to the board theme, policy will be seeded in July. so the term will continue until the end of June.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: That will be that will you know. That's the most important part right now other than that in April

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: we hope to see you in person, and your upcoming meeting

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: at the provided location that was already assessed and reviewed by the department of city clerk.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: so that that will be the the coming back to in person, meeting back in April.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: So we look forward to that, and supporting the Nc. As best as possible. and and having those meetings.

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jim murez: thank you for ready. Let's go on to the next person would be West Side Regional alliance. Daffodil. Did you have a report from the the meeting with the

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jim murez: Council woman. You're a Slavsky.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I can certainly give one. We had a rack. Had a meeting with CD. 5 Council woman, Katie Roslavsky, last Monday

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Daffodil Tyminski: and she was asked a lot of questions about her position on the enforcement of 41 18,

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Daffodil Tyminski: and the common view, I think, held by a lot of her constituents was that she seemed very for enforcing it when running. But her stated position now is that she will not enforce 41 18, until there are credible

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Daffodil Tyminski: housing options for people

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Daffodil Tyminski: on a more permanent basis than she's seen occurring already. and in particular she's concerned that enforcing 41, 18 and CD. 11 will result in an increase of people going to CD. 5.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So that was of some concern naturally, to all of the West Side Council members.

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Daffodil Tyminski: She also

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Daffodil Tyminski: she talked quite a bit about public safety and other things that you know she is working on in her district. and as well. She discussed relevant to us that she was likely to be appointed to the Metro Board.

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Daffodil Tyminski: which she was subsequent to that meeting, and that she would be looking at Metro sites for housing options, for low income, permanent, supportive, and affordable housing.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The meeting was cut short, because she had a conflict for the latter part of it. So we didn't get to ask her all the questions that we had planned to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: That's basically a gym.

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jim murez: Okay, great. Thank you. I just got a text from Vicki. She's here. Can you promote her?

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jim murez: Thank you. I'll continue with the meeting. Yolanda. We need to promote Yolanda to speak

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jim murez: a lot of. You have a a like

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jim murez: report of any time

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm promoting her

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Daffodil Tyminski: They should both be in gym.

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jim murez: Thank you, Yolanda. Did you have a link report?

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jim murez: Guess not. Yolanda.

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jim murez: Okay? Well Dwp: i'm gonna assume Yolanda is not here for that, either. Is anybody here from is Alison here from Nick Melbourne's office? I suppose she's probably busy with the strike.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yeah, I do not see her in the Attendee list.

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jim murez: And what about.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I do not see Nima.

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jim murez: Okay, okay, let's go on

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jim murez: to committee chairs.

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jim murez: Jay. We'll get to you when we get to the treasures report. Mikkel. Do you have anything to report?

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Michael Jensen: Yes, Can you hear me? Yes, see? Okay. I'm sure this will be announced elsewhere. It's on our website. But on Wednesday

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Michael Jensen: Tracy Park's office is hosting a Town hall with some Q. A.

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Michael Jensen: Beginning at 5 Pm. Regarding the Mta. Lot that's 100 sunset currently the

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Michael Jensen: home of bridge housing, so I would encourage everyone to come with some thoughtful questions. And yes to you. Wednesday.

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jim murez: Thank you for that. That. The update everybody should put that on their calendar. It's an important

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Michael Jensen: next Wednesday. Yup, this Wednesday tomorrow.

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Jim Robb: Thank you.

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jim murez: 50'clock. There's a link to the to it on our website neighborhood.

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Daffodil Tyminski: That's not on the agenda but Jim. I thought some of these were going to be on consent.

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jim murez: Some of them were taken off of consent.

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Jim Robb: We had a great meeting to discuss

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Jim Robb: bringing some sort of skateboarding event for the Olympics to Venice.

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and we had a lot of great input

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Jim Robb: and turned out great. So that was our last meeting. Also discussed the the scooters, because the scooters are down in a

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Jim Robb: Venice Peninsula, and they're having problems with them. So i'm forwarding everybody that has problems with the scooters all my contacts because I will not be dealing with them after April.

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Jim Robb: You're all on your own.

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jim murez: Okay, Thank you, Jim. Why, after April, you're still on the board until July.

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Jim Robb: Okay.

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Jim Robb: i'll. I'll take care of July

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jim murez: outreach.

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jim murez: Seem, Are you there?

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Sima Kostovetsky: Good evening. I'm a little under the weather scope. So thank you so much. I'm going to talk very minimally tonight. The one thing I did want to mention is there was an E blast that went out announcing Tracy's meeting for tomorrow afternoon at 5 Pm. As well as it being on our website and all social. So thank you. Good.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Yeah. Excuse me.

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jim murez: Feel better. That sounds horrible. Drink. Lots of liquids, as they say.

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jim murez: rules and selections. We don't have our it's Bruno. Do you have anything for us?

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jim murez: Okay, Keith? He sent me an email. He did not have anything this month, but he did want to mention that in May they are planning a town hall. They have to still work out the details with outreach

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jim murez: and and that's supposed to be coming

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jim murez: Homelessness, Vicki, are you there?

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Vicki Halliday: I'm Here Frank was gonna try and get here. I don't believe.

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Vicki Halliday: Is he on? Is

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jim murez: I don't see him here.

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Vicki Halliday: I don't believe he's here, Jim.

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Vicki Halliday: you know I'll I'll pass

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jim murez: That's great. Congratulations: yeah.

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jim murez: Who's next parking and transportation, Robert.

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robertthibodeau: We've got a bunch of things on the menu tonight.

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robertthibodeau: so they'll they'll all kind of be their own agenda items. If any of you have questions on the stuff you can.

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robertthibodeau: You can ping me. and then we're moving. The most important thing, maybe, is that we're going to move our meetings

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robertthibodeau: for the in-person stuff from Mondays. We've traditionally been the first Monday. We're moving to First Tuesday.

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robertthibodeau: and we're gonna hold them at the Paloma Restaurant space At least we're gonna try it. And thanks to Allison for organizing that

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robertthibodeau: and yeah. which still still discussing the underground of the electric.

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robertthibodeau: still discussing Lincoln.

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robertthibodeau: still discussing Ab. But any still discussing Venice.

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robertthibodeau: and you know, come to our meetings

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robertthibodeau: if you want to hear about these subjects, if you want to have input, Thank you.

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jim murez: Robert. Where is the Paloma Restaurant? Just so. Everybody knows

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robertthibodeau: corner. It's where zinc used to be. It's the corner of Avat kidney and Venice Boulevard, and a very kindly

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robertthibodeau: offered us some space. I do not know exactly where that space is going to occur yet. I will

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robertthibodeau: try and put something

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robertthibodeau: to Sima prior to our next meeting, so it's clear to everybody. It's not clear to me right now. What time does your meeting normally start? We usually go from 7 to 9. I try and keep them to 2 h, you know, 2 h or less. So we're usually 7 to 9. Okay, Good information. Thank you very much. No problem, bye.

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jim murez: Okay. Joe Murphy has. Let's see? Oh, we have the Arbor Committee first. Is anybody here from the Arbor Committee, Sarah or Isabel is here, Jim. I promoted her. Okay, and let's also promote John Pika because he's going to be next. He's here to speak for Joe about the new park space.

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jim murez: Isabel. Go ahead. We have a presentation. Can we share screen. Yeah, Can you do it? At this point? Let me unshare mine.

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Isabelle Duvivier: No, not sure.

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jim murez: Do you have the ability?

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Isabelle Duvivier: Okay, Hold on.

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Isabelle Duvivier: No.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I've done everything I can doing our faces with our video.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Jane Payne is going to present for us today.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Hello, I'm. Here Tonight we have with Powerpoint. So this is obviously a picture of our Venice Arbor Committee one of our days

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Isabelle Duvivier: We have a couple of slides here. One is. This is just to let people know that the difference between the tree cover in 2,000. 2,009. It's a declining canopy.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Even as we plant trees

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Isabelle Duvivier: there, we're losing them. I think a lot of us to construction.

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Isabelle Duvivier: and that's the difference between Brand and Venice. So they have a lot more trade density.

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Isabelle Duvivier: and this is the proposed la housing element rezoning, and you can see that the density is there's a lot of density west of Lincoln, and that there it seems like it's going to be 6 stories allowed.

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Isabelle Duvivier: and there isn't a plan right now for trees or greenery.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Harris Dawson motion from CD. 8.

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Isabelle Duvivier: This is what he's put out as a tree policy to coordinate the urban forestry applicant, so that so that people who are

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Isabelle Duvivier: and then the United Neighborhoods Neighborhood Council.

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Isabelle Duvivier: They came in to our meeting this a few days ago, and our V. Our meeting, and they have made a significant

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Isabelle Duvivier: policy. Thank you. A significant tree policy that they approved with a lot of details. So we can share this Powerpoint If people want to look at the details because it's, you know.

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Isabelle Duvivier: and we're working at the Venice Skill Center and Goldstein, we meet every Saturday, from 8 to 10. If you want to

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Isabelle Duvivier: find out where we're going, you can let Isabel know, and I think let us know, and we will tell you where we're going to be. You don't have to get there at 8. You could get there at 9, so

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Isabelle Duvivier: for those people. Isabel is always there at 8. I'm not usually there at day.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So that is what we have going on.

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jim murez: Okay, Thank you.

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jim murez: You appreciate it. And if we get that powerpoint. I think Sarah knows how to to post it on the Vnc's website. If you've created, if you create it as a pdf

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jim murez: from the Powerpoint, and and there's a button that you can click on to do that. It makes it more easily viewable by the general public, because not everybody has Powerpoint.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Okay. we will do that.

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Sima Kostovetsky: It's set a quick question. Were you saying that you move? So? Are you there every Saturday at goals, or if you move location. We move location. So sometimes we're through the yeah, we move relocation. Sometimes we'll be at some place for a couple of weeks. It depends on what needs to be watered and where we're planting.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So we send out a text every so usually Friday and say, oh, here's what we're going to be this Saturday.

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jim murez: So there's there's a an Arbor person contact on the arbor page of the Vnc website. So anybody that wants to know about it can always go to the Dnc site from there they can.

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jim murez: That that message will go through to whoever's.

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jim murez: I believe it's Sarah's usually the the person that those messages go to, and she can respond to where the events gonna be, because sometimes they're on Venice Boulevard, sometimes over by the farmer's market parking lot. They're called shim wherever they're wherever they're working. Okay, let's bring John on. Is he available, John? Are you ready to go? Yeah, yeah, I'm: Here, yeah, thank you.

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John Palka: I've got a brief report on the Discussion Forum Committee. Most recently our work has concentrated on the focus on children and walkability. Vnc Vision goals as directed by the focus on children vision goal. We have been considering strategies to promote and expand

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John Palka: opportunities for children, to experience meaningful involvement in our Venice community. in our actions that pertain to walk ability. We've been discussing strategies to reduce the use of cars while promoting alternatives like simply walking.

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John Palka: We have seen concrete results and movement in both of these areas, turning our attention to the city parks in our neighborhoods. We've been meeting with Sonya young Himenez, the superintendent of Venice Beach, and west region parks.

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John Palka: At our meeting we drew some used attention to one of our local pocket parks called Triangle Park. We also submitted to Sonia a draft sketch produced by

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John Palka: majority of how the Triangle Park could look and how it could be improved.

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John Palka: This is a tiny neighborhood arc that has great potential, but has received very little attention

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John Palka: Since that meeting. Sony has visited for the first time the Triangle Park, and we are now working together to get some basic amenities in that park like a place for mom and Dads to sit as well as shape.

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John Palka: Secondly, we noticed that in the area around Venice, Boulevard and oakwood. There are no parks within a reasonable walking distance. and so we helped facilitate a cooperative effort between First Lutheran Church of Venice.

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John Palka: the Preschool and the website Venice Mom's group to open up the church's playground to the neighborhood.

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John Palka: This playground, set in a beautiful park like setting, is open every Saturday morning.

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John Palka: This is a new initiative, only only a few weeks old, but it's starting to be known in the neighborhood. Young families are coming. Children are playing in a safe place, and moms and dads are connecting with one another. A greater sense of community is being built.

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John Palka: Thirdly, we continue to work with Robin mirrors working with and encouraging her to press forward with her idea of creating Venice Flying Carousel.

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John Palka: Another initiative that we are involved with is in effort to create internship opportunities for our local high school students connecting them up with local businesses. This initiative was started by Paul Davis, a a local architect.

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John Palka: a also one of the Paul, is also one of our co-chairs.

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John Palka: The this initiative started prior to the pandemic, but unfortunately, it was shut down due to pandemic. The good news is that Paul has restarted this initiative. We are in conversation with Mr. Robin Ellen Hunt, who is the work experience Coordinator at Venice High School.

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John Palka: We're now working as partners with them, to bring together local businesses and highly capable high school students who are looking to explore vocational opportunities

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John Palka: as these and other initiatives progress. We'll keep the Vnc.

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jim murez: Thank you, John. Let me just ask one quick question about your report. You stated that the

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jim murez: the new Park at that the first Lutheran church there opens in the morning on Saturday.

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jim murez: What was the hour that it was open, and what was the hour that was close? And is it only designed for a particular age group like children under the age of

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John Palka: 12 or whatever? Yeah. Yeah. Good questions. Right now. The park is run strictly by volunteers, and so because of that we, it is open every Saturday from 10 till noon.

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John Palka: The park is in the playground is appropriate for preschool through. Probably middle grade school, middle to late grade school.

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jim murez: Okay, perfect, Thank you. Well, let's get that message out there. If you, if you reach out to our our outreach to

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jim murez: person, Sima. She's not feeling well tonight, but but her email and her all of her information on the website. I'm sure she would be happy to add that to one of her community newsletters that that that goes out monthly or as frequently as they need to, we'll be certain to do that.

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Robin Murez: Thank you very much. Great report, Robin, Are you here for for the preserving public places? I am, and I'll be brief. I just want to mention that we got some nice press. We were the cover story on the Argonaut about the saving the Venice Lifeguard Station Tower.

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Robin Murez: There was also an article that came out in yo Venice, and I just want to point out that

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Robin Murez: the media doesn't always get the information

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Robin Murez: quite accurately reported, and to be clear, the La City Department of Reckon Parks, our City councilwoman, Tracy Park.

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Robin Murez: and our La County Supervisor Lindsey, Horbath, have all halted demolition of the Venice Lifeguard station tower. Any other information is absolutely incorrect.

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Robin Murez: and additionally.

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Robin Murez: everyone should know that there are no structural deficiencies with the Lifeguard station tower, and all of the documents that

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Robin Murez: support this information are available on our page on the website.

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Robin Murez: and I invite anyone and everyone who's interested in helping to preserve our public places to be in touch. That's all for tonight.

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jim murez: Thank you. Just a quick question. Have they started any kind of a process to decide how the life part tower may be used in the future.

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Robin Murez: No, the first step is that we need to get the there was a building repairs assessment done in 2,014, and we need to get that updated so that we get accurate information as to what repairs are needed.

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Robin Murez: and

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Robin Murez: at that time it was shown that there was $300,000 worth of repairs needed.

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Robin Murez: County is responsible for doing it. But has not They've been completely delinquent, though they've had the building for 40 years for a dollar a year. So we are now trying to get that updated. The original

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Robin Murez: engineers and architects are quite confident that the cost of doing that repair will actually be

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Robin Murez: well within the it's quite reasonable. It's less than you answered my question. We there's no process yet. Then that's really what I wanted to make sure that we weren't, excluding anyone from being able to participate in using the space in the future. So thank you for your report. Keep us important.

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jim murez: Michael Lynn, are you here?

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Michael Lynn: I I I am here, there we go. Give us an update or report on elections. Sure.

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Michael Lynn: all right, so i'll start from kind of the beginning, going forward in a short time frame. We were able to get out postcards and Voter Guides mail to every Venice address, whether they actually made it to every specific address Don't know, but they we definitely printed and mailed out a bunch. There are extra voter guides and extra postcards that are available at the farmers market on Friday

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Michael Lynn: or at Herba, over on like 4,400. Lincoln, I believe, is the address, or 4,200 Lincoln.

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Michael Lynn: So if anyone needs any extra voter, guides or extra postcards, they're there for you. There's not a ton left. But there's some.

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Michael Lynn: The banners are up for the election day. We were able to get Well, we are.

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Michael Lynn: We've done one round of social media in the second round. We're halfway through, and we'll be doing that all the way up through the election. and we have ads running and 2 publications.

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Michael Lynn: In the meantime, as I'm sure all of you are well aware, the candidate forum that we had scheduled for Westminster Elementary has been cancelled due to the strike.

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Michael Lynn: and that is where we're at.

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jim murez: Thank you, Michael. Okay, I guess. Now it comes to the President's report.

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jim murez: Let me start by saying, starting April first, and this is no April fool's joke. We're going back to live meetings. So anybody that is the chair of a committee.

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jim murez: You need to be arranging for the use of what is considered a public space. What is a public space? A public space is some place where people can go, and and they're not going to be charged to be entering, and it has Ada access.

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jim murez: The city has a a, a a whole set of rules about what it has to be, but but in a nutshell that's basically it. It has to be able to to offer free access to

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jim murez: anyone and everyone in the public that wants to attend a meeting.

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jim murez: so so keep that in mind, Robert mentioned, we're parking, and transportation is going to be using a restaurant at the quarter of of Abbey, Kenny and Venice Boulevard. That's perfectly acceptable. So is the library Extra space storage on Venice Boulevard is another location that's available.

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jim murez: There's Oakwood Park Penmark Park

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jim murez: Westminster elementary school. There's plenty of locations where, within Venice where these things could be held, there's several restaurants on ocean front walk that used to also host the meetings. It's just a question of being able to do it when there's not too much noise from other people that are in the restaurant.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We're still seeking a Can I jump in with one thing on that? I've been working with people to help them arrange paces. Some of the places we just have to be careful that they may not be able to accommodate like, for example, extra bit space storage may have an issue doing later night meetings.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So on a one by one basis, just if you don't have it set, just reach out to me because I've talked to a lot of these folks

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Daffodil Tyminski: and some of the things we do need permissions from the city, for so again, if you haven't done it, or don't have it, let me know.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And Friday I've reached out to you this as well.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We'll have to follow up. So

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Daffodil Tyminski: if you haven't thought about where to do it, let me know, because I've been scouting out the spaces.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. Yeah, I know extra space storage is where we always used to have the Adcom meeting, so that always worked out real well.

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jim murez: Okay, if you have a problem with extra space stores, let me know, because it's in the the recorder coming up their land

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jim murez: seeking a community officer

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jim murez: for rules and selections. We still have time for anybody that wants to any of you community officers that want to step up and be the chair for rules and selections. It'd be great to have somebody volunteer for that position at this point.

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jim murez: as far as Cp. I've had conversations with Lapd. It's not exactly clear how we want to handle this. But it seems as though

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jim murez: we want to have a condo, a stronger conduit to the board from somebody that also participates in Cp. We do have a couple of our board members on Cp. But they're not necessarily responsible to report back to

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jim murez: the board or to share information. But I I was informed that as far as getting area maps and things like that that that are discussed, I guess, in Cp. There is a website, and i'll be posting the information about that website where all of those maps are public information.

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Daffodil Tyminski: the Canada. They are also on the Neighborhood Committee. Page.

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jim murez: Okay, good. Thank you for that.

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jim murez: The candidate forums on Wednesday and Thursday, as Mikkel, Michael said, Michael Lynn said, our our elections Administrator. They were cancelled by him

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jim murez: we'll get to discussing that further in about 7 min when our special meeting starts. Other than that. I wanted to mention that that the elections are on this Sunday from 10 am. To 6. Pm. Don't forget you got to bring Id

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jim murez: an Id means you have to have something with a picture on it, and something that describes that you have a a stakeholdership in Venice.

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jim murez: and and that I will leave up to what's written on the elections page to be able to describe to you what's required in the way of Id. One last thing I wanted to mention, the Department of Health

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jim murez: reached out to me, and this is wearing a second hat, but I'm announcing it now as well. The farmers market will be hosting the Department of Health.

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jim murez: They are giving out free vaccines for Covid and for flu shots people of all ages. They will have 80 vaccines available to anybody that wants them. This Friday at the farmers market between 7 and 11 am.

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jim murez: This is a one time deal, but it's their mobile clinic. They've shut down a a lot of the clinics that they've a lot of the mobile clinics that they've been taking to senior housing places and other places around the county, and they asked if they could do it at the market. And of course the answer was, Yes. So anybody that needs a

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jim murez: vaccination shop please feel free to come by the market. They'll have professional folks there doing that.

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jim murez: So that'll be it for government reports.

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jim murez: Let's go on to the approval of

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jay handal: prior minutes. I need a milk maker of the motion.

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jim murez: Oh, was that jay? Okay, Thank you, Jay.

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jim murez: Second.

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Clark Brown: I'll second it. Yeah, Thank you, Clark.

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jim murez: Do we have any public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Jim? We've got

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jim murez: 2 hands raised, 3 hands raised.

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jim murez: Let me

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jim murez: change to my clock view while you

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jim murez: start to unmute them.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. First we have Lion Omaris.

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Lionel Mares: Yes, good evening, Vanity with council. My name is Lena Marres. I'm. An attendee. I'm. Here to say that

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Lionel Mares: once i'm not sure if you have the information. But Senator for Itino from the State of California introduced a Senate bill for 11. That would amend the I'm. Sorry we're this is a motion about approving the minutes from the previous meeting.

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Daffodil Tyminski: No, No, no, it's all right, save it, for when we call it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

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developer. Go ahead.

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- ni developer: And again. Freddie, will you tell these assholes

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- ni developer: that it's 1 min minimum. Not this 30 s shed.

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- ni developer: That's right. Very well done.

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- ni developer: Yes, Freddy, taking care of a comment about the minutes. Yes, i'm getting to that fat lady. Yes.

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- ni developer: Now, as you see, in the minutes we want them posted so that we can see them on the screen. Go, Buffet has electricity. James does not have electricity

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- ni developer: go. Puppet has an ability to read. James does not have the ability to read.

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- ni developer: But I can read.

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- ni developer: we also want to put down the names of public speakers. their full name or their anonymous identifier. For example. somebody might hypothetically sign up as Adolf Hitler, Look for it

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- ni developer: or go you, your developer

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- ni developer: Please put it in there and be accurate.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Otherwise I approve the minutes.

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Daffodil Tyminski: the phone number ending in 6 9 0. Go ahead.

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1310****690: Hi! This is Yolanda. I'm sorry I wasn't able to make it on time for my report. But as I was zooming in the power went out on me, but i'm not allowed to give my report if i'm late. Anyways, I approve the minutes. Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank Youolanda. Peter John Ruiz, go ahead.

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Peter John Ruiz: Can you hear me?

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Peter John Ruiz: Yes, yes, okay. Great. Hi! This is the Venice Pier Project speaking, and I would just like to announce that on the

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jim murez: Peter. You gotta do that on public comment. This is thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yeah, for everyone waiting to speak. We're taking comment on approving the minutes of the last meeting. Finally, and with this will close public comment, we have call in user one.

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Call-In User_1: Thank you very much. What what item is public comment?

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Call-In User_1: We are on approving the board minutes from the

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jim murez: It's a couple of items to come.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I'm looking it up. Now it is.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Where is it, Jim?

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jim murez: I'm looking.

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jim murez: Actually, I don't think it's on there. We'll get to it. We under the Brown Act asshole.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay? Well, with that will close public comment.

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jim murez: Can we remove the people to to talk that are not on the on the board? We're gonna move over to our 70'clock meeting. Now, this is a good place to

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Ivan: to him. Approve the minutes first.

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Ivan: Oh, yeah, that's right. Thank you. You're right. Okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: is this: the roll call from before

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jim murez: It's okay. It's recorded

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jim murez: like. Did Jason ever show up?

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Daffodil Tyminski: Did Elizabeth show up?

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Daffodil Tyminski: No. But Jason is here.

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jim murez: Jason is here. Okay? Good to know.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And Cj. Is here.

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jim murez: Oh, yes. perfect. Thank you. I think that got everybody.

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jim murez: Okay.

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jim murez: refresh this. Okay, approving the

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Daffodil Tyminski: Jim was J. And I think the second was need to go.

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jim murez: Nico.

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jim murez: or was it? No, I I I was. I was not the second I wasn't paying attention. Yeah, it was. It was clerk. That's okay. I seconded it. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So yes, for me.

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jim murez: Capital?

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

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jim murez: Jay.

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jay handal: Yes.

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jim murez: Vicky.

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Vicki Halliday: Yes.

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jim murez: Bruno.

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Bruno Hernandez: Yes.

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jim murez: Siva.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Yeah.

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jim murez: Nico.

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Nico Ruderman: Yes.

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jim murez: Jim. Rob.

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Jim Robb: Yes.

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Jason Sugars: Jason. Yes.

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Alley Bean: Ali

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Chie: Kai

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jim murez: Mike.

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Mike Bravo: Yes.

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Soledad Ursua: So look at

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jim murez: solo, Dad.

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jim murez: Yes, thank you. Cj.

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jim murez: Robert.

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robertthibodeau: Yes.

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Clark Brown: Clark. Yes.

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Michael Jensen: yes.

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jim murez: and Patrick.

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Patrick McKinley: Yes.

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jim murez: the vote carries 18 0 0. And now let's pause this meeting for a minute. Let me just save a copy of it real quick.

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jim murez: and must move over to this, you know.

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jim murez: So this is the wrong one.

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jim murez: This is the one I start. Okay, so hold on, let me load

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jim murez: the other meeting.

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jim murez: Here we go.

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jim murez: Okay, so like Freddie said.

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jim murez: i'll just do a quick roll call. I mean, I think I know everybody that's here because they're still here from the other one, so i'll just fill them in.

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jim murez: We need to decide if we want to. We here

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jim murez: having a candidate forum.

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jim murez: we previously were not supposed to talk about it. But if we want to go forward with it. We can do that now, or we can just not do it.

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jim murez: So i'm going to ask everyone here if they have any comments that they want to make about that. My expertise communication is. I talked to Freddie in the city, and I talked to Anna in the city, and I talked to Michael, who is in charge of elections.

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jim murez: and I basically got the green light up until tonight, when Freddy said, we shouldn't talk about it. So without consulting. So let me let me go through the committee here and decide how we want to handle this.

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jim murez: and then I guess we can take some sort of strawberries for about whether or not we want to proceed and change our minds about being able to move forward. Jay.

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jay handal: Okay. So I have a whole bunch of stuff here, Jim, first of all. you and I had a conversation

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jay handal: about it.

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jay handal: and I did check with Freddie, and I have an email back from the department, saying they have not approved it.

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jay handal: I have an email from Anna, saying they don't approve, and they did not approve it.

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jay handal: And there's a lot of reasons why I think this just needs to be removed first and foremost, because well, there's about 17 of us who are candidates who shouldn't even be talking about this according to our board, voted rule.

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jay handal: So that's number one.

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jay handal: And if everybody who's supposed to recuse themselves, do we don't have quorum to hear this tonight.

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jay handal: and if those who are supposed to recuse themselves, Don't.

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jay handal: then challenges will probably be filed, and this is just gonna get over. We shouldn't be breaking our own rules. We have stakeholders who tell us all the time on these

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jay handal: different calls that we break the rules. We're corrupt. We do all the wrong things, and here we are breaking the rules. So

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jay handal: let me start at the top. The board vote the Board voted. No candidates can be involved

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jay handal: in the actual running of elections. That's what we're trying to do tonight. That's what you did by contacting the city and overstepping the Independent Election Administrator

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jay handal: Number 2.

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jay handal: We can't turn the plan backwards. You can't do a motion if you wanted to. A motion to reconsider, because the plans already been implemented and the money's been spent.

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jay handal: and it's past the one month break. So reconsideration of the plan does not work.

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jay handal: Number 3. You made a comment earlier

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jay handal: about

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jay handal: changing the way it's gonna run.

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jay handal: and you can't do that because it's not even on the agenda.

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jay handal: Okay.

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number 4. You're asking for $500.

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jay handal: So the only amount of approval was 280, some dollars.

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jay handal: so any additional money would have to go through Budget and then Addcom, and then the board, and none of that has happened.

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jay handal: This is i'm not done

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jay handal: so that that's an indiscriminate amount that quite frankly, we're not allowed to do according to our own rules and the procedures.

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jay handal: Next item is the event.

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jay handal: Packet has to be Redone and sent to the city clerk.

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jay handal: Because now you're going to a new place with a new budget, and the old event packet is no longer valid.

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jay handal: I confirm that with Anna, and again I have emails from the city clerk. I have email from ready, and we should not be doing that. And we can't revoke a board vote

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jay handal: that has already happened, because there is nothing on this agenda that allows us to revoke a board vote. Thank you. J: You're repeating yourself and there several other people that have their hands up. Okay, you have another new point to make. Please make it, and then let's move on. So everybody gets a chance to so so i'm, urging the board

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jay handal: to either recuse themselves the candidates.

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jay handal: or postpone because I contacted the city attorney and Freddie. If you're on

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jay handal: my understanding is if you contact the city attorney and you don't get Nancy back. You're supposed to pull the item until you can get clarification from the city attorney. I have not gotten clarification from the city attorney.

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jay handal: Thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you. Cj: You have your hand up.

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CJ Cole: Okay. First of all, if we're all supposed to be recusing ourselves, Jay should have recused himself before he said one word. Okay, however, I'll have to say for the last all 4 or 5 months. We have continually made decisions

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CJ Cole: at the board level, having to do with the election, whether it be the election plan, approving a budget, whatever it may be, as we have.

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CJ Cole: may votes and past things having to do with the election, which, if this particular item has to, we have to recuse. We needed to recuse ourselves all the way back.

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CJ Cole: Okay, thank you.

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jim murez: Hey? You see, Jane

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jim murez: Daffodil, you have your hand up.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, I have had communications with the city, some of them, Jim you were on, and with Friday, and with other folks about the issues that were previously raised. I do need to recuse myself to me. That's very clear from the guidance we got

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Daffodil Tyminski: from the city

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Daffodil Tyminski: from done, because it is a conflict, being a candidate and doing this, and to Cj's

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Daffodil Tyminski: point

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Daffodil Tyminski: we did have votes. But that was prior to passing the rule that got us in this situation.

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jim murez: Okay, I'm. Jay Cj: Hang on. Thank you.

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jim murez: That might be an audio. And Jim text me when you're done the meeting.

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Alley Bean: I mean

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Alley Bean: done rules whatever I my my feeling is that it's it's it's not

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Alley Bean: fair for the people that

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Alley Bean: are running for office to have no forum. I I don't care about myself. I don't care about anyone on the board, but for the all those new people running.

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Alley Bean: I

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Alley Bean: I just think it behooves us as a board to figure out a way, since there's an emergency. This is an emergency that there was a strike at the school that that completely qualifies as an emergency. And I don't understand, since

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Alley Bean: the the other auditorium is I mean, I talked to Ivan about this. I and I said him, and he said he was exhausted, and I don't blame you, I but I understand this is exhausting, but you can't just stop trying when there was that

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Alley Bean: auditorium always available the gymnasium at Edna. I I don't know why we didn't just immediately, you know, start moving towards going there. If there was going to be a strike so that we could get

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Alley Bean: people to be seen by the public. It's different having a zoom.

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Alley Bean: and and I don't care if any of us get to go there if it's, if it's even just the new candidates people should be able to see them in person. I really feel strongly about it, and I don't know why it's this late in the game. I don't know why this forum was in a long time ago. I mean it should have been weeks ago. So

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Alley Bean: I I just think an exception should be made by the city, because we're in a You know we had a place. It was all set, and there was a strike, and then we found a place that's completely amenable, and you know we don't have a ton of time

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Alley Bean: to discuss it. So you know, like recusing unreason. I don't care if I recuse myself, and I can't be part of it at all, but I think that we should really think about the public, the stakeholders, and the new people running to get a chance to express your feelings.

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jim murez: Nico. Your hands up. Did you want to say 7?

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Nico Ruderman: Yeah, I apologize. I I I didn't know it was muted.

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Nico Ruderman: 2 things one I I I actually feel like I probably don't have to recuse myself because i'm running on a post that I don't, you know I I haven't consulted anybody. I'm on that. But you know I I I see no conflict whatsoever. Me being involved in this discussion.

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Nico Ruderman: Seconds. I I agree with Ali. This is, you know this was. This is an extreme circumstance that I I feel

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Nico Ruderman: we should be holding a forum. You know I I I I think it does more of a disservice to the candidates who aren't on the board that then it does to us. We we get fac time. Several times a month

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Nico Ruderman: they don't so I I I think it's a real real disservice to candidates currently not on the board. If If we don't if we don't hold this, and I I think we really need to find a way to do it.

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jim murez: Thank you, Nico Michelle. You have your hand up.

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Michael Jensen: Yeah. I have more of a point of order. So we're like getting into the substance, like typically, at the beginning of a meeting, you announce conflict of interest and recusals.

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Michael Jensen: but we seem to be devolving into the substantive discussion.

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Michael Jensen: So i'm I I mean

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Michael Jensen: based on.

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Michael Jensen: So the attorneys or the done's advice

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Michael Jensen: we have to I i'm refusing myself because that's what they instructed me to do. This time, and you know, 2 weeks ago so but I but i'm just curious like right now. It seems like you're having a substantive discussion, and I think it's that's

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Michael Jensen: premature. But anyway, with that, please just text me on your back.

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jim murez: Okay, Vicki, your hands up. Go ahead

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Vicki Halliday: just to go on the record. I did contact the city attorney to ask

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Vicki Halliday: whether or not I should recuse. I have not heard back.

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Vicki Halliday: So that's where that stands. I'll i'll.

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Vicki Halliday: That's all. Thanks.

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jim murez: Okay, Sima, you have your hand up.

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jim murez: You're muted.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Can you take me last, please.

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jim murez: Clark, Your hands up?

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Clark Brown: Yes. Am I correct that if we proceed with this motion.

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Clark Brown: What we will be doing is proceeding with the previously scheduled candidate forum, except that it will be at a location other than Westminster School. Is that what we're doing? Well, right now we're talking about Whether or not we can talk about that. Okay. But on the substance is, is is it? Yes, okay, thank you.

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jim murez: Jim Rob, Go ahead.

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Jim Robb: I I I You know I would love to then do a candidate for him. You know it's a very important, and there's not a lot of

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Jim Robb: not a lot of support out there, and a lot of people are wondering what's going on. But for me, you know I I have my contingent that will vote for me. But I agree with that. You know these other people need a chance to speak and be heard, so they even have a slight chance of

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Jim Robb: winning a seat They're trying to fill so. but i'll I'll leave it up to the whatever we get.

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jim murez: Okay, I see no other hands up that people that have not spoken seem like you want to say something.

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Sima Kostovetsky: please. Thank you.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I just want to say that this is such a difficult decision. But I, as outreach share, have gone on the record. I'm. The one that fought for impartiality in this election. and i'm the one that fought for an elections administrator, because for these very reasons.

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Sima Kostovetsky: and it would just be disingenuous for me to not recuse myself, or at the very least abstain from this vote. because i'm the one that fought for a lot of the impartiality that we are now having to face. I would just like to say for the record that

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Sima Kostovetsky: if we actually vote on this as a board. then we will continue blatantly ignore our very own guidelines and procedures. And then what good are we as a board? If we can't even follow our own integrity?

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Sima Kostovetsky: That's it, I don't know if I have to recuse, or if i'm going to have to just stop staying

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Jim Robb: proper t of those hands up.

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jim murez: Yeah, go ahead, Robert.

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robertthibodeau: Thanks, Jim.

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robertthibodeau: It's an odd catch 22, because

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robertthibodeau: you can't. You can't. If we all recuse which I am going to recuse on Freddie's advice.

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robertthibodeau: then you can allocate money towards the election. So

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robertthibodeau: because we don't have a quorum. and so it's sort of like chicken and the egg, you know. and it seems like

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robertthibodeau: Freddie, if you want us all to recuse. You should figure out a way. you know, to get us out of this whole, but

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robertthibodeau: because it'd be better to have the forum and not have the Forum, I mean again similar to what they're saying is.

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robertthibodeau: it allows people to hear the people who you don't normally hear.

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robertthibodeau: and yes, I am going to recuse, and I don't think it's a problem, speaking beforehand, because normally you are allowed to make a public statement before you recuse. When you recuse your

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robertthibodeau: typically allowed some sort of public statement. Prior. Thanks.

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jim murez: Okay. So, Freddie. now that you've heard what the Board has to say.

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Soledad Ursua: I I have a question, Jim. So I general question. You know we hired an election administrator. I think we've spent 15 or 20,000 on these elections. Why is this issue coming before us, I mean, why couldn't the election administrator

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Soledad Ursua: find? You know, since it is an emergency, find a backup location, or why not even go to zoom if we need to this, you know. That's what we did the last election around it was via Zoom. So I mean, I would just ask, what could the election administrator do to take care of it, so that the Board Isn't, you know, voting and violating.

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Soledad Ursua: and you know, not getting into these complex. Yeah, okay? Well, I had those conversations with the Elections Administrator, and I made it very clear that I have post his cancellation of it; that there were other locations.

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jim murez: and he was not interested. He was too busy on Friday to be able to push it back a day. He didn't want to go through the work of finding another location. The other location was set in my lap. It was very easy to find. I worked with Anna, and she has a draft copy signed by the director of the Park.

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jim murez: and it's been approved that far along. The Hannah said that that we could not. She could not complete the paperwork until we had a vote tonight

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jim murez: from the board, when

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jim murez: you know Freddie saying we can't have a vote. So we're in like Robert said, a catch 22 situation.

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Soledad Ursua: I hope that answers your question. Did they have the authority to cancel, you know.

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jim murez: Vote that we made that said we can't get involved in it.

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jim murez: and so does do they have the authority to do it. Well, we don't have the authority to stop them unless we want to take that authority away, and if we try and take the authority away, are we actually meddling in the elections?

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Ivan: Okay, Jim

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Ivan: Ivan, I haven't you took a position you want it. Did you want to raise your hand, Ivan?

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Ivan: Fine?

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jim murez: Thank you, Freddy.

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jim murez: Do you have a suggestion for us.

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jim murez: Freddie?

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: Yes, here.

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jim murez: Thank you. Do you have a suggestion. Everybody wants to have it. Nobody wants to go in violation.

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jim murez: you know. This is one of those situations where you know done is making it impossible for us to move forward if we can't fix the problem.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: So one of the remedies I suggested was creating a special meeting, so it would be offered equal time for all candidates that are running for office

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jim murez: that would allow for Who's going to? Who's gonna to do that? Nobody on the board is allowed to.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: What do you mean? Like to hold a special meeting? And then just

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jim murez: are you gonna do it?

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: If you would like the Department to

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: hold a virtual.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: a special meeting on that end. That is something that I could bring up to my director to see what?

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jim murez: Wait. Bring up to your director Doesn't. Give us direction. We need direction tonight. We need a commitment tonight. We need to hear you say that you will take the responsibility and be the one who creates the meeting and conducts it because we can't do it.

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jim murez: and if we don't do it tonight, if we don't have that decision tonight, we don't have time.

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jim murez: because it takes at least 24 h to post it. You gotta give everybody an opportunity to put it on their calendar.

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jim murez: and then to be able to attend, and that means it has to go out to all of our stakeholders, and I assume that seam is again allowed to send something out to the stakeholders, because that's not considered a violation.

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jim murez: because she's only doing the outreach for elections. You're the one that's got to take the responsibility Freddie

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: so on on that, and again I'll still have to refer to my director as to whether we can do that or not.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: A response could be done later tonight. once I get a response. but I cannot commit to that at this moment.

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jim murez: so we'll go back to our regular meeting, and we'll come back here again after you let us know what time you think you can let us know. It's about 7, 29. You can let us know by 90'clock.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: I hope to.

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jim murez: Okay, let's do that. Let's go back to our regular meeting, and i'll set my alarm for 90'clock.

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Nico Ruderman: Jim. This is Nicole. I have a real quick question before we do that. I we as a

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Nico Ruderman: I, I I apologize for interrupting. But are we as a board able to appoint a new election

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Nico Ruderman: administrator.

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Why not

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Nico Ruderman: so somebody who is actually willing to do the work that

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Nico Ruderman: that they'll sign up to do so? Just I was thinking it would it would have to be somebody who was not currently a a, a, a a candidate?

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Nico Ruderman: Well, maybe there's somebody in the audience willing to volunteer that we get a point tonight.

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Ivan: Jim. It's not on the agenda. You can't do that.

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Alley Bean: Excuse me. Our Parliamentarian did speak up. He's correct. It's not on the agenda. We can't do that.

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Alley Bean: Jim. I have a question.

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Alley Bean: I i'm looking at the motion that we made as a board, and it says the Board of officers approves the Bnc. Election plan. 2023 is described. A candidate is not allowed to serve on the election committee period

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Alley Bean: right? We don't have an election committee

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Alley Bean: that's not serving on the Elections Committee right? There is no election, so why we didn't vote that we couldn't have anything to do, Freddy. We just can't it? Says I. Can't. We voted? Because i'm looking at my vote. A candidate is not allowed to serve on the Elections Committee. So, Freddy, why can't we have this

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Alley Bean: for the you know, for the All the candidates.

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Alley Bean: because we have an emergency. We're not. We don't have to recuse ourselves. We just can't be on the Elections Committee. That's all we voted for.

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Alley Bean: Can you answer? That?

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Alley Bean: Is he gone? I've got it right in front of me. I'm. Here, you see that vote.

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Alley Bean: I've got it right in front of me.

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Freddie, if you don't have an answer, let's just

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jim murez: let let I have in our Parliamentary and chime in Ivan. Do we have an election committee?

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jim murez: Okay, Ivan, Would we be violating any rule by having the Board vote to have the

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Ivan: candidate for a move to another place, because nobody that's a candidate is participating in the election committee. You're all involved in discussing the administration of the election. But that's not what the board motion.

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jim murez: That's how it the board motion? So the Board motion said that the candidates are not allowed to participate in a committee.

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Ivan: Right?

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Ivan: Thank you, because so many of well, that's not what I've been. I'm taking it on the face value of what? The written that you're rewriting. You know what You've already taken a position on this item, and you need to pass the gavel

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Ivan: because you have a side in this. You know, which you're allowed to do as a stakeholder, but you can't be chairing the meeting after you declare your position on this.

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Ivan: so please pass the gavel.

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jim murez: Thank you. I I have a point of order. Go ahead, Clark.

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Clark Brown: Let's forget about these arcane procedural issues, and proceed to vote on the substance of the motion. If the Mo. In the event the motion passes, which is, I understand. It would be that we would proceed with the forums, except they would be in a different location.

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Clark Brown: If that passes. Then let the powers of be try to set it aside.

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jay handal: What are they going to do? Shoot us on pulling a border gym

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jay handal: in the motion. You're asking for additional money

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jay handal: which has not been allocated.

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jim murez: The Board has the authority after it's gone through the board process of going to budget, and atcom.

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jay handal: Well, the budget breaks the rules regularly. We are not having invoices and all kinds of others. Jim. Jim, stop talking like you're the opposite. Thank you.

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jim murez: Really okay. Now, do we have enough people that are still left behind?

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jay handal: I bought it, Jim.

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jim murez: Thank you. J.

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jim murez: The question is one to

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jim murez: through

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jim murez: 3, no 3. No.

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Jim Robb: i'm lost here, all of us that are still

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Jim Robb: looking at you via our pictures.

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jim murez: Well, we need to have. We need to have 11 members

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jim murez: on tried to count. There's 1, 2, I'm recusing myself

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jim murez: for 5,

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jim murez: 6 7 8,

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jim murez: 10.

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jim murez: Looks like we have 12 members.

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jim murez: So yeah, I would say, we can probably go ahead.

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jim murez: Okay, let's go ahead with the agenda that is on for 70'clock for the special meeting.

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01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:08.920
jim murez: and I will just quickly take a roll call. Because, Jim, you need to pass the gavel.

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Ivan: You cannot take a position on an item

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Ivan: and also chair the meeting. You have to pass the gavel. I haven't taken a position on it. You did you?

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Ivan: We have been taking a position on this. I let it sit for a while to see if you were gonna go over the line and you did. I'm not sure. I following you. You need to pack the gin. I will.

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Clark Brown: Okay, Clark, You want to be the gavel. I I'd rather not. Okay. But that's something. We vote on this. I would like someone to articulate exactly what it is that we're voting on.

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Clark Brown: What exactly is the motion? Okay? First, we have to take a roll call. We need somebody that wants to take a gavel.

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Alley Bean: I I will.

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Alley Bean: Okay. So so you're gonna have. I'll have to help you through it. Let me uncheck all of these, and then you'll call them all out in order.

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Alley Bean: Do we need to make a new motion?

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jim murez: No, we have a motion.

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Ivan: You need to take public comment.

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jim murez: Now, Jim, you're not running the meeting. I'm Sorry I you're the Parliamentarian. I will call on you if we need you. Okay, we need to take public comment. We will do that after you take a roll call.

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Alley Bean: Okay, I would like to take a roll call. Now.

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jim murez: conduct the meeting.

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Alley Bean: Okay.

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jim murez: Yes, thank you. So i'm here and now you continue to call people's names, and if they're here they will say that they're here, and if we have 11 people we can continue

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Alley Bean: Melissa diner, J. Handle

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01:35:59.680 --> 01:36:02.320
Alley Bean: Vicki holiday. Bruno, Hernandez.

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Alley Bean: Sima Nico

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Nico Ruderman: Here.

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Alley Bean: James Robb. Jason

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Jason Sugars: here.

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Alley Bean: Kelly, Bean here do I do myself, Ivan

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Chie: here.

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Alley Bean: Mike. Bravo

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Mike Bravo: here!

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Alley Bean: Solidad here, Cj

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Alley Bean: Robert Tibeto Clark Brown, here. Michael Jensen. Patrick Mckinley.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: I went over to myself.

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jim murez: So what you're not here.

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Alley Bean: Expertise communications I talked to, as I said.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: I will. Someone please mute themselves.

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Alley Bean: Who is that? Whoever is not muted could take.

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Jim Robb: Hi! It's probably you.

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Alley Bean: I've been. I've been

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Alley Bean: What what do you need?

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Ivan: Yeah.

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Alley Bean: Okay.

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Alley Bean: no.

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jim murez: okay.

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jim murez: Ivan, you need to mute yourself. You're still I can. He's still muted.

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jim murez: There's

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jim murez: It sounds like maybe it's Freddie

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Alley Bean: or Clark. Could you mute yourself in?

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jim murez: Okay, let me go back to the screen share. So I had conversations with the city.

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jim murez: with Jay, handball.

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01:37:43.710 --> 01:37:46.110
jim murez: with Ivan, with Michael Lynn.

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01:37:46.360 --> 01:37:55.610
jim murez: with Freddie, with Michael, and I don't know his last name from done. but he's in charge of elections for done

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01:37:55.840 --> 01:38:07.820
jim murez: with Anna from from the city clerk's office. and with several stakeholders and and people that that that it was unfair to

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jim murez: not have a

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01:38:09.710 --> 01:38:10.480
okay

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01:38:10.520 --> 01:38:11.570
jim murez: candidate forum.

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jim murez: I also talked with people at the Park and and

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jim murez: go ahead. Your turn

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jim murez: anybody else. So I had at conversations with Ali also.

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Alley Bean: Does anyone else have any ex parte communication?

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Alley Bean: Okay, I had expert take communication about the gymnasium with Jim.

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Alley Bean: I tried to find a phone number to call the owner of it

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that

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Alley Bean: director of it.

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Alley Bean: Okay. So now where do we go, Jim? I guess other people other people have their hand up about experts in communication. Sorry, Sola, dad.

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Soledad Ursua: Sorry my hand was up for no reason. Nico Rudderman.

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01:39:04.940 --> 01:39:06.360
Nico Ruderman: Sorry I didn't know my hands up.

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Alley Bean: Ivan.

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jim murez: He's not on the he's not on the board. He doesn't make export to communication. He just okay. So now you move on to announcements and public comment.

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Alley Bean: Okay. So announcements and public comment on items, Not on the agenda.

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Alley Bean: Do we have any announcements?

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01:39:34.310 --> 01:39:36.070
Alley Bean: Do we have any public comment.

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jim murez: So there are people who have their hands up

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jim murez: and do I press start? Jim

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Nico Ruderman: first is John and Michelle Hale.

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jim murez: So yeah, I I'll do that. That's okay, Nicole. I can handle it. John. Go ahead.

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John and Michele Hales: Thank you. I appreciate that. I'll be fast.

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John and Michele Hales: Okay. I just want to share with you something that parallels your efforts for the past hour.

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John and Michele Hales: 3 weeks ago I did an Ada visit to a school that we're going to use for a meeting place.

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John and Michele Hales: The done Rep. The principal myself walk through. We got flying colors, thumbs up good to go.

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John and Michele Hales: 3 days ago I got a letter from another done rep that says, the application for that school

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John and Michele Hales: has been frozen and placed by the city clerk.

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John and Michele Hales: The city clerk states that I have to fill out

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John and Michele Hales: a a Usd. Application for public use

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John and Michele Hales: for that facility. and I looked at over

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John and Michele Hales: 50 schools. and the La Usd is charging various amounts for use.

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John and Michele Hales: and it went from 150 to $1,500. And oh, by the way.

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John and Michele Hales: the clerk will not allow free use period.

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John and Michele Hales: Thank you.

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01:41:08.360 --> 01:41:09.390
Alley Bean: Thank you.

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Nico Ruderman: Nico. Can you.

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jim murez: Helen? Go ahead. You're unmuted.

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Helen Fallon: Yeah, I I'm assuming that this is no longer on the agenda, your previous discussion. But anyway, I just want to clarify a few things.

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Helen Fallon: What you approved was a plan that originally included a forum, and it was supposed to be a minister by election committee.

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Helen Fallon: You never had a vote that a discussion as a board about not having about not having a particular person with a candidate running the election committee. And then there was a whole history fit by Robert Tivo, and nobody voted on anything, so that never got passed. But that seems to have been the fiction that has moved forward.

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Helen Fallon: The only vote you took was to approve hiring an election administrator.

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01:41:55.800 --> 01:42:03.440
Helen Fallon: That was the only vote that election administrator is your employee to have a discussion that you can't

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01:42:03.980 --> 01:42:16.750
Helen Fallon: require your employee to fulfill his duties is beyond my comprehension, especially since the entire election budget now adds up to $23,780.

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Helen Fallon: This is insane.

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Helen Fallon: And frankly I question that the election administrator did any work towards creating a form we knew about those date 6 weeks ago. We never as candidates for the single thing from him other than those dates and a time no location. And

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Helen Fallon: now he, they don't have a Moderator. I mean, what did they do for 6 weeks about these forms? They didn't know this was going to be canceled until last week

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Alley Bean: unless they've got a crystal ball. So you know, please stop being manipulated by all the gas lighting that's been going on by some of these

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jim murez: nick at the cello. Next, next.

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Alley Bean: Let me go. Do it, Jim. Just to be

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Nick Antonicello: yeah, a couple of points. Number one.

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Nick Antonicello: The election administrator is supposed to pull out the goal set by the B and C, which is to have to have this, for

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Nick Antonicello: he doesn't have the authority to unilaterate an employee to just cancel it.

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Nick Antonicello: And I've been

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Nick Antonicello: ridiculous notion that the chairman of the meeting can't have an opinion on a on a motion is online. It's Falls.

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Nick Antonicello: He's making it up.

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Nick Antonicello: He is not being a Parliamentarian. He's, he's, he's, he's doing the work of others because they they can't

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Nick Antonicello: rationalize or explain why there is no form. They smash out a publicly subsidized newsletter to everyone in this town. Say they were going to have

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Nick Antonicello: they 4.

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Nick Antonicello: It was never an address. There never was a time or date.

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Nick Antonicello: If they knew the strike was coming, they could easily move this to a zoom application. They did neither. as far as i'm. Concerned.

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Nick Antonicello: Ivan should resign, and the administrative who is being paid. You should withhold his pay

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Nick Antonicello: because he didn't do his job.

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Nick Antonicello: and this whole notice, and you can't talk about it. Refusal is a bunch of bullshit politics, because this whole thing is 2 muckle heads. We don't know what the hell they're doing, and it's time that this board, take action and make sure that at least the zoom call is done, so that those 10

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Nick Antonicello: have the ability to talk to the public.

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Alley Bean: Thank you so much, Nick.

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Nico Ruderman: Next next is Robin Murray's

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jim murez: Robin's unmuted.

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Robin Murez: Hi, you're doing the right thing. Of course there needs to be a forum. It is preposterous that there wouldn't be.

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Robin Murez: It is part of the ineptitude or purposeful, wrongful actions of. In fact, those who are the

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Robin Murez: running for

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Robin Murez: reelection as officers. This, their statements in the candidates statement that was sent out, though I have yet to receive it. Their statements have

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Robin Murez: enormous falsehoods in them.

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Robin Murez: This is just part of a perpetuation of some kind of very skewed effort to

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Robin Murez: not have there be a fair and open forum for the community to get to know

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Robin Murez: who is running for election. You must have this public forum.

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Robin Murez: That's all.

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Alley Bean: Thank you, Robin.

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Nico Ruderman: Thanks, Robin. A calling user one is next

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jim murez: an unmuted color one

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Call-In User_1: to the President. The Secretary. I sent you points of authority. Attorney General's opinion and points of authority, and also one of the lawsuit, the Timer Nico. So i'm so sorry. That's me.

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Alley Bean: I'm so sorry. Continue. I sent to the Secretary and James points of authority at a journey. General opinion regarding disqualification and a quorum

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Call-In User_1: I've dealt with Freddy before he's. He's not a barred member of the State bar. He's not an attorney. He doesn't have a Jb. I gave you points of authority that allows you. When people are disqualified, still keeps the quorum.

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Call-In User_1: If you would like to. I suggest I even gave you the documents you could pull them down. And, you guys that parasite from done? Why, his policy preempt State law, and also the opinion of the California Attorney General.

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Call-In User_1: I give you a point of authority. I don't want to hear Ivan and his Roberts rules of order. law, preempt.

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Call-In User_1: and that's how it is. So every time you want to hear Freddie doing his word solid. He! He! He's at nothing. I've already

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Call-In User_1: take him twice to court we I've settled before you even hit it. He even had his Union representative.

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Alley Bean: We go.

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Alley Bean: Is there anyone else?

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Alley Bean: Nico?

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Nico Ruderman: I apologize. I was muted. Yes, Lionel Mars or Mars. I apologize. I'm butchering your name because up next.

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Lionel Mares: Yes, thank you very much, My, for public comment. I just want to say that Mary, disappointed that your board don't doesn't get along. I mean, I see what's going on on Twitter. I won't say names, but just we need to get along. I mean.

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Lionel Mares: i'm sorry, but it's so sad. And anyway.

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Lionel Mares: yesterday I was at City Hall because the City AD Hoc Committee on Governance Reform, how to

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Lionel Mares: Discussion Items one and they've been Independent Redistricting Commission and item 2 on the municipal lobby and ordinance. It's very important to the neighborhood councils. All 99 councils fight for a stronger municipal I mean or ordinance because there are loopholes that

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Lionel Mares: the Labor Federation special interest lobbies are trying to exploit. So we need to start focusing on what's important and not argue among each other, and and we start getting along because we cannot continue fighting over homelessness. All districts.

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Lionel Mares: all 15 districts in the C. Ofla, including the separate 9 valley, suffer from from it. So we have to find solutions, not fight over it. Thank you.

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Alley Bean: Thank you so much.

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Nico Ruderman: All right. Next up is Sean. O'brien.

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Nico Ruderman: Go ahead, Shawn.

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Sean Obrien: Yeah, hi! Oh. I would ask this question: what would Mike Bonn do?

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Alley Bean: What would Mike Bond and do in this situation? What would community housing do in this situation 1 s Shawn. Hold on! Can we start the clock, Jim

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Sean Obrien: Mike Bon, in Venice community housing? They would do what they want to do. Let the chips fall where they may, and deal with the aftermath after it's already been done.

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Sean Obrien: The candidates need this forum. I I wish everybody

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Sean Obrien: like solid that, or whoever's recuse themselves. I wish everybody would come back and solidarity, and pass this, and allow our candidates a forum, and I don't want to take any more time. It's going to be a long night.

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Alley Bean: Thank you, Shawn.

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Nico Ruderman: Thank you so much, Shawn. Next up Erica Moore.

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Erica Moore: Hey, there, Hi!

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Alley Bean: Well, I am a clock. Sorry.

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Erica Moore: Hi! There.

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Erica Moore: you know. I'm. In an event, planner, and you always have a backup plan. The fact that there was not a backup plan in motion

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Erica Moore: from the start is ridiculous. There absolutely needs to be a forum, and i'm not just saying that because I am one of those people who is a candidate. I'm saying that because it's about the stakehold.

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Erica Moore: It's really unfair to our neighborhood

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Erica Moore: to not have somewhere where they can go and meet the candidates whether they are people that are already in office or not. It's not right that in the eleventh hour there isn't a plan. A Zoom Meeting at the worst

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Erica Moore: should be like the fall back.

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Erica Moore: The fact that I'm hearing oh, it's too difficult. That's ridiculous.

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Erica Moore: And I question, why is it that the candidate forum booklets are. I mean, the book that's about. Candidates are only available at the farmers market, and then at Herba.

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Erica Moore: Why would they be at Herba? They should be at the Public library. They should be somewhere. That's public, not in someone's business that's running. I have some outside, but they're not in my business. It's very strange. Thank you.

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Nico Ruderman: Erica. Thank you so much. Next up Lisa Edmond.

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Lisa Redmond: Thank you. Good evening. Yeah. I'm really disappointed, You know, Last month I made a just a small question about extending voting for 2 h, and what possible expense that might incur on top of the other 23,000 we've already spent.

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Lisa Redmond: and I was accused of voter suppression.

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Lisa Redmond: This is pure voter suppression. There is no backup plan from the beginning. Last Thursday night. At that time it was clearly said, there's going to be a voter strike.

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Lisa Redmond: and yeah. Jay and others finally figured that out Friday, and with Anna and mailed down the place when they knew we couldn't use the place

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Lisa Redmond: the week before that jay was. Excuse me. Ivan was cornered in the library and admitted then that the you know probably weren't going to happen. It seems they weren't going to happen from the beginning. Why, don't we jump to zoom right away

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Lisa Redmond: and make it happen. And on top of that. No one's even been notified. None of the candidates. I went back 2 years ago. We were notified 6 weeks in advance that oh, you're going to be on this night, and you're going to be on that night.

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Lisa Redmond: People need to make plans. Nothing's been done. You've hired a really poor employee.

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Nico Ruderman: Thank you. Lisa Kolani's next.

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Kalani W: Hello! I had a public announcement. March is, and you're running the timer on my public announcement. This is not my

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Kalani W: public comment. You breeze through public announcement. That's okay. Go ahead, Kalani.

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Kalani W: My public announcement is that March is Women's History month. I am from Hawaii. I'm very proud of the fact that Patsy Mink, our Congress person in the 1960 S.

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Kalani W: Past help pass title I. Which gives women the opportunity equal opportunity to participate in sports.

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Kalani W: Patsy Mink was the first Asian elected to Congress, first female Asian elected to Congress, and I want to speak her name, that all of us, with daughters, all of us who have benefited from title. I should think

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Kalani W: that simulate Mink and remember her. My public comment is that this is madness. A forum is necessary.

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Kalani W: and and whether, and I guess zoom is your backup plan.

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Kalani W: But some neighborhood councils operate by. Do first apologize later, and maybe you should take that approach when dealing with this emergency. Because, yes, the strike was unforeseen. It's happening.

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Kalani W: But you need a form so that all candidates have equal

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Kalani W: access opportunity to to state their case, why they belong on on this Neighborhood Council. That being said, considering most neighbored councils have less than 1% stakeholder participation. We should also use this election

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Kalani W: to determine if neighborhood councils are the best way to reach our stakeholders.

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Nico Ruderman: Thank you, Kwani Steve. See, Bradbury is next

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Steve Bradbury: thank you as a candidate. I have to say that, having a

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Steve Bradbury: a candidate for 3 days before the election just makes no sense whatsoever. But that chip is sailed. I I want to just raise the practical question.

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Steve Bradbury: Which is it's 7? 48 Pm. On Tuesday.

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Steve Bradbury: So even if you have a Zoom Meeting tomorrow and Thursday.

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Steve Bradbury: how many people are going to find out about it. How are you going to let people know about it? I mean it's just it's just we we're just up against it so much. I mean, this part of this is going to have to be some kind of serious plan.

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Steve Bradbury: and it's not just going to be on one person like on the outreach person, but everybody on the board to let everybody know that this is going on. If we're going to make the effort. And as a candidate, I want people to hear what I have to say. I want to reach an audience. I actually want to talk to people

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Steve Bradbury: to talk to the 20 or 30 people that are on this on this meeting, or 40 people in this meeting doesn't really accomplish a goal.

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Steve Bradbury: So I would encourage you if we are going forward, and I would love to have the opportunity to introduce myself, because i'm in. I'm a new candidate.

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Steve Bradbury: How are we going to let as many people know as possible in as far away as possible, so that everybody gets the exposure? Thank you.

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Alley Bean: Thanks so much, Steve.

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Nico Ruderman: Thank you, Steve Elizabeth. Right? What is next. Elizabeth?

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Elizabeth Wright: I I would just like to point out a couple of things.

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Elizabeth Wright: Can you start the clock? Sorry, Elizabeth. Good.

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Elizabeth Wright: There, there's an assumption that running an election doesn't really require a lot of work. Well, the reason i'm not working the

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Elizabeth Wright: this election is because I figured out at my age, which is 83. I can't put in that level of work anymore. It is work. And a great deal of work has been done on this on this election.

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Elizabeth Wright: Another thing. the cancellation has already been posted on the on the website. What are you gonna do about the people who saw it. And then how are you going to tell them it's UN cancelled?

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Elizabeth Wright: A third done is already given you advice on what you can and cannot do.

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Elizabeth Wright: You can follow it or you can not.

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Elizabeth Wright: It's entirely up to you.

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Elizabeth Wright: But if you do not, you're jeopardizing the standing of the Dennis Neighborhood Council.

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Elizabeth Wright: Thank you.

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Alley Bean: Thank you, Elizabeth.

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Alley Bean: Nico. Is there anybody else?

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Nico Ruderman: Sorry I was muted? Yeah, Julie, Julie Bean is next

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Julie Bean: sorry. Yeah, I am so confused

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Julie Bean: every time I listen to a meeting

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Julie Bean: I don't know whether to

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Julie Bean: campaign harder or just not. Want to get involved with

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Julie Bean: with what's going on. The the postcard.

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We were sent out for the election place.

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Julie Bean: I know that they were on the on the website. I know they were on social media about the information about, you know, the deadline being the 7 to apply for

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Julie Bean: a mail and vote. Well, the postcards alerting everyone that lives in Venice arrived the day before

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Julie Bean: it arrived on the sixth. and it just blows my mind how

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Julie Bean: i'm sorry, but I don't think it has been planned well at all. That's ridiculous, and I think that something should happen. Thank you.

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Alley Bean: Julie Nico.

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Alley Bean: Is there anyone else? Yes, thank you, Julie. Jill Crosby is next.

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Jill Crosby: Hi, thanks you guys. Yeah, I I tend to agree with Elizabeth, Julie Bean and Lisa Redmond. I'm running for Jim. Can you start the clock? Oh, sorry, thank you. No worries. Sorry thanks. I'm. I'm. Running for community officer as well. I just feel sort of like.

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Jill Crosby: I agree with one of the other commenters who is a public events planner that a plan. B.

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Jill Crosby: It seems like it would be the

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Jill Crosby: part of the first

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Jill Crosby: part of this process also, as well as the election administrator kind of paying close attention to, you know, giving us a longer runway towards when it was that we were to put this down on our calendar, which dates we were supposed to speak, etc.,

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Jill Crosby: in terms of going forward with the candidate Forum. I I would love to do that, however, i'm not sure that at this point in time 2 wrongs make a right. So in terms of how we

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Jill Crosby: I I wouldn't want to see an infraction, and how we handle this as a Vnc. Because, as everyone has said, you know, we can't just overstep the rules. I am a candidate. I would love to speak at a Forum. But at this point it's sort of such a conflict. I wouldn't even know which direction to take on this in terms of how to stand. But, thanks.

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Alley Bean: Are there more hands, Nico?

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Nico Ruderman: Right? There's still some hands. I believe we've gotten through everybody now, though.

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Alley Bean: Okay. So, Jim, what do I do now?

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Alley Bean: Can you look sorry. Let me look again.

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Nico Ruderman: Oh, yeah, let's go with Mr. Developer.

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- ni developer: Yes.

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I have

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a little more.

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- ni developer: or even she wants him. The former

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and of the

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- ni developer: is going to find out a big all of his criminal charges against the FBI get. You know what happened, James?

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Okay.

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- ni developer: His attorney was was to the hospital. and it may result in a Mistrial

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Isn't that a good one

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- ni developer: also your good friend, James Jose we are. is going to get 6 months more. Freedom! What?

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- ni developer: That's right. His sentencing was moved from April to October, so he's gonna have 6 more months to steal money. Let's get my hand.

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- ni developer: You.

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- ni developer: Yeah. So those are my announcements, Don't. I get my 1 min of comments now like Koloni, or are you gonna fuck me and give me 1 min and violate what Freddie told you to do, I mean, I know, I think, that we should stop it because I don't think we should have.

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Alley Bean: I want to be training equally. Alright. Thank you. Thank you. Developer Gabe Smith is next.

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Gabriel Smith: Hi, there! My name is Gabriel Smith, a candidate for the Lu PC chair. I just wanted to say, disappointed that i'm not able to speak. I really want to have this forum. There's a lot that i'd like to say as a challenger. It's definitely a disadvantage for me not being able to

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Alley Bean: to be able to speak my piece.

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Alley Bean: Sorry. Go ahead, thank you.

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Gabriel Smith: No worries. I I won't even take a full minute. That was it. I I really needed that opportunity. I think the community deserves it. Also. I just wanted to bring to the attention of the Board that I've not been receiving communications. There was good several weeks where I was not receiving any emails that all of the other candidates

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Gabriel Smith: we're receiving, and this was also the same for many of the other new candidates. We were not given

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Gabriel Smith: the same correspondence that everybody else was. So there's been frustrations in my candidacy as a new challenger in this election. I'm hoping these can be addressed. That's all. I I relinquish my time.

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Alley Bean: Thank you so much. Maybe a list of those names, you know, could be sent to the board. That would be great, because I didn't know anything about that. Okay, Nico.

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Nico Ruderman: That's everybody.

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Alley Bean: Is that everybody from you, Jim? Do you see? No, there's there's still one more

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Alley Bean: That was just Gabriel. So I don't see another one. Do you see

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Alley Bean: Mara

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jim murez: working on it?

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Alley Bean: Okay.

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Amara Hordt: mute? Hi!

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Amara Hordt: Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Bye. Thank you that I mean it's definitely, really disappointing that I can't, you know, introduce myself properly. And so I mean on Sunday. I'm definitely gonna set up in front of you, you know, Oakland, and

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Amara Hordt: hopefully be able to introduce myself and make. you know. be able to have a couple of words with people that want to get to know me better, since we don't have that forum.

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Amara Hordt: That's it. That's all I want to. I'm big.

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Amara Hordt: I really hope we can maybe do a zoom later on this week, if possible as like a plan. B: but yeah. thank you so much.

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Alley Bean: Okay, Jim. What do I do now?

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jim murez: Yup. And I don't know that that Ivan was necessarily correct about me not being able to to do this. I don't know if there's actually a conflict or not

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Alley Bean: anything else to do.

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Alley Bean: Yeah. Code.

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Alley Bean: do we

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jim murez: hold on. Let me see.

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Alley Bean: And Gabriel Smith

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Alley Bean: and Gabriel Smith, too.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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jim murez: that should fix it.

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jim murez: So so now what you do to Ally is you

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jim murez: introduce the motion, you get a maker, and you get a seconder. I'm happy if i'm allowed to vote i'll, i'll make the motion.

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Alley Bean: The motion is the Board of officers approves, moving the location of the candidate Forum to Penmar Park, Wednesday on March 20, s, and Thursday March 20 third between the hours of 6, 30 to 9 Pm. And does anyone move to call for a vote?

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Clark Brown: No, you need to second it. And then I didn't know. Did Does someone have to. Oh, you're going to make the motion. Maybe you shouldn't. Should someone else?

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jim murez: I don't I, he said. I'm allowed to vote, I believe. Let's let someone else make the motion who'd like to be promotion.

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CJ Cole: I'll make the motion. Okay, Clark Brown. It makes the motion. Do we have a second

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Alley Bean: Jason sugar seconds.

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Jason Sugars: Okay.

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jim murez: Now you take public comment. Yeah, you take public comment, and then you take board discussion and then you take it. Then you call for the vote

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jim murez: that's being discussed, and there's only on this one I' to be off topic.

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Alley Bean: Jo: I see Joe Crosby.

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jim murez: Yeah, I gotta kinda get there.

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Alley Bean: Okay.

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jim murez: we gotta get the clock up

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jim murez: 1 s there's the

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Alley Bean: and then can you unmute you?

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Jill Crosby: Am I unmuted? Okay, Great thanks. I guess my only concern at this point, if you guys are planning on moving forward is that Tracy does have a very, very important

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Jill Crosby: speech to give, and her for her town hall on the 20 s.

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Jill Crosby: so i'm not even sure that that was established back when we were deciding upon the 20 s and the 20 third. But for whomever is to be on the 20 s. I believe that's kind of a disadvantage in terms of

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Jill Crosby: most People's attention will most likely be diverted heavily to Tracy's speech. Thanks for

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Jill Crosby: thanks for that.

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Alley Bean: Thank you. Just so that you know Tracy has a hard out at 6 30, which is why that time was chosen. She has to stop because she's downtown. so everybody will be able to go right to this afterwards.

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Alley Bean: Okay, Are there any other hands up, Nico? Can you see any?

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Nico Ruderman: Yes, calling user one.

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Call-In User_1: I think you should say Thank you to Freddy on this whole thing. On helping you, he didn't provide any support. He uses word salads like we recommend.

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Call-In User_1: and so forth. You should thank him for giving you 0 support.

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That's why he doesn't work in the public sector. I mean private sector, because he would be fired in 2 s.

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Call-In User_1: He likes giving legal advice about stuff like this, too, even though he doesn't have a Jd. Or he's a member of the bar. So he he's a real good. You should thank him for all the work that you've done, and lack of a lack of direction. Thank you.

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Alley Bean: Thank you.

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Alley Bean: Nico. Is there anyone?

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Nico Ruderman: And you, Robin Nero's is next.

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Robin Murez: So this makes all the sense in the world. You are you found? A good solution? It's like Jim. Could you start the clock?

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Alley Bean: Thank you. Go, Robin.

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Robin Murez: So this is a a great accommodation. It makes all the sense in the world. What you are doing is carrying out the will of the people. And again, what Ally found to be

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Robin Murez: what you actually did vote on means that you could be having this vote, and the whole way the election has been handled has been so inappropriate. It seems to be gerrymandered by

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Robin Murez: Jay and a small band of Daffodil and Sima

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Robin Murez: J. Is.

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Robin Murez: He has a completely false statement in his election material. He has giving out these election materials at his private business is completely inappropriate. He should be at the public Library. There's so many things that are wrong with this. He has not produced

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Alley Bean: in writing any of these emails that he purports to have. So he's not an authority, the right thing.

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Alley Bean: Thank you, Robin.

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Nico Ruderman: Thank you, Robin Erica More is next.

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Erica Moore: Hi, there! Thank you so much for the chance to speak. I just want to thank everybody who is taking their time tonight to speak up on this, and I want to thank everybody who's

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Erica Moore: made the effort, so that we can all be heard as far as to have the forum.

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Erica Moore: I I vote for in person, if possible, and I know that Penmar has agreed, and they're available. I'm concerned about who's going to moderate. I hope somebody will step up to do that, because from what I've understood.

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Erica Moore: our election coordinator, Michael and Ivan are both not willing to do it, which is very odd to me. So that's one concern. And then I just want to say that I do hope to see everybody there, and

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Erica Moore: just to let the one person know Amara about setting up outside. Just make sure that you are far enough away, so they don't disqualify you because you can't be really close to the polling area, so make sure that you're far enough distance away.

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Erica Moore: Thank you so much, everybody. I'm Erica Moore and I am running for community officer at large, and you get more with more. There you go.

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Erica Moore: Here we go.

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Clark Brown: Thank you, Erica Helen.

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Helen Fallon: By my new one.

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Helen Fallon: Yeah, i'm really grateful that you that.

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Alley Bean: Thank you.

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Helen Fallon: I think we now know who doesn't care about

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Helen Fallon: our stakeholders, and doesn't want to listen to them with all this bogus argument about not being able to do thing and fictional rules. I'm. A Paul that our current treasurer

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Helen Fallon: feels that

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Helen Fallon: he could he, You should override your fiduciary responsibility

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Helen Fallon: where it's the funds that you were entrusted with

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you would have no say over spending 23,000

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Helen Fallon: plus dollars. That's just that can't be overridden.

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Helen Fallon: and I frankly most of us candidates don't have the money that it's apparently backing the slate, most of whom we choose themselves here.

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Helen Fallon: you know, sending out a brochure, a flyer that probably just cost him $10,000 promoting Jay's hotshot.

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Helen Fallon: you know. So

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Alley Bean: fixing business and campaigning, Thank you. Helen.

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Nico Ruderman: Yeah, thank you, Helen Steve. Robbery is next.

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Steve Bradbury: Hmm. Thank you.

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Steve Bradbury: So

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Steve Bradbury: listen. I'm happy if there's going to be a candidate for, and it's great if it's going to be in person, I think. Given that this whole thing got canceled a few days ago.

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Steve Bradbury: Whoever is gonna put this all together. Election administrator otherwise has to be cognizant of people's schedules

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Steve Bradbury: to see who can actually show up on Wednesday versus who can show up on Thursday. So we maximize the opportunity for everybody given that it is now 806 on Tuesday evening. So I think that's really important to make sure that we do as much as possible comment at everybody's schedule.

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Steve Bradbury: The other thing is because it's 806 Pm: Sorry to keep on reminding you of the time.

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Steve Bradbury: How are you gonna get the word out? How is the word going to get out so more than the people who are on this call will show up, because that's what's going to make a difference. The more people that show up the better. So how are you gonna Ha! What is the Board's plan to get the word out? Given that? It's Tuesday evening, and you're talking about a Wednesday and a Thursday night.

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Steve Bradbury: I'm. Steve Bradbury. I am running for@largesteveforvnc.com that's number 4 V and c.com. Thank you.

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Alley Bean: Thank you, Steve.

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Nico Ruderman: Thank you, Steve Lisa Redmond. Next

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Lisa Redmond: I thank you again for the opportunity.

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Lisa Redmond: See how nice it is when we can all get along and work together and care about our community, and Steve and Erica approved their messages as well. Amar, it's 100 feet. To be exact that you need to think i'm really conflicted on this right now, because not just the candidates and the stakeholders that are on this call.

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Lisa Redmond: But i'm talking about the whole community of Venice, and the stakeholders have been yanked so much back and forth it's on it's off it's on its office. Here it's there. Even the chamber has been sending out messages that are complexing to people as well.

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Lisa Redmond: So I

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Lisa Redmond: I don't know at this point. Can you get people there? Will people show up? Is it worth the extra effort? I just

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Lisa Redmond: yeah, it's really important that we try and do something. But again, how do we get People know? How do we put that message out to as many people

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Lisa Redmond: as possible at this short date, and it the short notice and how unfair it is to candidates and other people that maybe need to hire babysitters or caregivers, or or make arrangements because they have other plans.

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Lisa Redmond: It's just sad that it's come to this. But thank you for caring and wanting to pursue this

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Nico Ruderman: Elisa Kalani's next.

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Kalani W: Hello, Huh! You may want to put whatever you decide on the calendar. Your website calendar. You may want to put whatever you decide on the calendar asap, you might want to post it on next door social media, etc., etc.

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Kalani W: But to. I did want to add state again.

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Kalani W: Most neighborhood councils have less than one half of 1% stakeholder participation. Venice is fortunate to have a little more than that.

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Kalani W: I think you might have closer to 2.5% participation in your elections. That's still way below average after 20 plus years of neighborhood councils being in existence, we may

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Kalani W: have to entertain a better way to reach out to our stakeholders. That being said

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Kalani W: this close to the election, to have a candidate Forum

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Kalani W: is unheard of, but you may want to tap other neighborhood councils within the CD. 11 district, like Del Ray or Marvista, to see if they can help out if you're concerned about conflict of interest.

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Nico Ruderman: Thank you. Developers next.

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Okay.

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- ni developer: that's right. Yes. Listen to all this fighting going on.

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- ni developer: Yes, that's right. Yes, don't worry him when I started my clock.

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- ni developer: Well, you know, when I raise my hub, it's not a hand. It's a Huh!

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- ni developer: Remember that

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- ni developer: The thing that we really need to do here is to have J. Handle. Take this over so that it can be called not the best neighborhood council, but the J. Handle council.

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- ni developer: Yes, his brain, child.

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02:17:28.150 --> 02:17:33.049
- ni developer: the dream of J being the equivalent of royalty

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- ni developer: having the power of God.

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- ni developer: Yes, that's what he's trying to do

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- ni developer: so. If you're voting for J. Handle you're voting for somebody with a god Complex, who's a lunatic, another one.

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- ni developer: our local version of Donald John trump.

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- ni developer: Yes, that's right. But there's one difference. You'll never invite Jay handle.

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Nico Ruderman: Next up is a phone number ends in 6 9 0, I believe.

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- ni developer: is very smart.

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Alley Bean: Do you see that one, Jim? Yeah, 6 9 0. Go ahead. You're unmuted.

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02:18:20.080 --> 02:18:21.980
1310****690: Yes, this is Yolanda.

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02:18:22.350 --> 02:18:27.700
1310****690: you know. It really said me that people need to attack the others.

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especially after the

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1310****690: the way bond, and put this community at really at risk and and and just really it, You know my fence was set on fire, and I still tend to find out who did it.

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1310****690: But I just want to know who's going to do this between Wednesday and Thursday. It is a lot of work. even though I am a candidate. I've been elected at times. I have worked

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1310****690: for the elections. I don't see anybody out there

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except those

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1310****690: that have really care for this community. All they do is just come and complain about everybody else I know who's working out there. We're talking to people we're talking, and they're coming back to us to let us know. How are we going to move forward, and that's the whole idea of having this neighborhood Council

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Alley Bean: in talk to other people.

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Alley Bean: Thank you.

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Nico Ruderman: Thank you so much for Yolanda. Next up is Daryl, and then Nick, and then I think we should close comment.

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Okay.

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Darryl DuFay: I have. Only one question

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Darryl DuFay: is one of the days for

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Darryl DuFay: the community officers and the other day for the

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Darryl DuFay: one to the other regular officers.

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CJ Cole: I don't think they ever figured it out.

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02:20:06.680 --> 02:20:12.530
Darryl DuFay: I I I all all 50 people together.

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Alley Bean: I can't answer that. But we'll ask that question, Daryl.

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Alley Bean: I never saw any information on that. So

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Alley Bean: thank you for asking that question so that it's made really clear to everybody

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02:20:26.090 --> 02:20:27.430
Alley Bean: You're you're welcome.

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Nico Ruderman: Nick. Nick is next

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Alley Bean: Nick.

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jim murez: I'm looking

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Alley Bean: okay.

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Nick Antonicello: But people keep on asking who's Who's going to do all this work.

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Nick Antonicello: The is paying someone to do all this work.

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02:20:46.700 --> 02:20:50.630
Nick Antonicello: Someone who arbitrarily on their own decided to cancel this.

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Nick Antonicello: We're not even notifying the board. I sent an email that 2 days ago from the Board. Say.

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02:20:56.510 --> 02:20:59.050
Nick Antonicello: what are we going to find out the date of this thing?

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Nick Antonicello: There were no dates in the Newsletter. You spent tax dollars on a headline article saying, you're gonna have a form, but with no day to no time.

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Nick Antonicello: Why, this is simply being moved to a zoom operation out. We've been operating with the Zoom. Now for almost 3 years. This whole thing is one big cluster from.

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Nick Antonicello: and the 2 people who were responsible for administrative selection should be fired, and he should not be paid because he didn't do his job.

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Nick Antonicello: And these are tax dollars you're talking about.

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Alley Bean: Thank you, Nick.

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Alley Bean: is that the last one, Nico.

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Nico Ruderman: There was one more

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Nico Ruderman: Daryl's Daryl spoke. There's there's a calling user. 3 and a call on user. For that.

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Nico Ruderman: Raise their hand. After that I don't know if you want to take them or not.

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Jim Robb: Ali.

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02:22:01.900 --> 02:22:04.530
Alley Bean: Yes, you want to take the 2 people.

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jim murez: Is it up to me to

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Alley Bean: You have to decide when to close public comment, i'm so sorry. Yes, like, because I didn't close public comment. Let's take the 2 people.

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Alley Bean: and then I after that cup public comment is closed.

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Jim Robb: Thank you. Ali

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jim murez: caller user Call in user 3. You're unmuted.

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Alley Bean: It looks muted on my computer, Jim. It is muted, but they have to unmute themselves. They are on their cell phone. Okay, Thank you. So

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jim murez: they they have to press Star 9 to unmute

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Alley Bean: Star 9. Yeah, one, user 3.

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Alley Bean: Should we go to call in user for and see if

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Alley Bean: call in user 3 can work it out.

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Nico Ruderman: Calling user for is is no longer there.

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I'm so sorry.

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jim murez: Whoever call a user for is has to cancel their

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Alley Bean: computer or something.

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jim murez: Okay? So i'm gonna remove calling you for.

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Alley Bean: Okay, so i'm calling close a public comment. I'm: so sorry calling user 3. But it's a technical difficulty. We can't get you in. So now do I call for the vote.

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Alley Bean: You take? I'm so sorry. Then there's board comments. So everybody everybody would like to raise their hand. That's on the board. Please do so, and we will call on you.

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Alley Bean: I see, Nico Rudderman. Is that your hand up? Are you just helping with

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Alley Bean: Clark Brown? I see I've Clark Brown.

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Clark Brown: After listening to this discussion.

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Clark Brown: I think we should not proceed with the program

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Clark Brown: on Wednesday and Thursday night, and I say that even though

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Clark Brown: voting in that way, I clearly have a conflict of interest because i'm running.

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Clark Brown: But I I think it's a good point that to

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Call-In User_3: go forward.

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Alley Bean: That's a

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jim murez: thanks.

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Alley Bean: Okay.

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Clark Brown: I'm Sorry, Clerk: go ahead. No, I think, going forward with the program on Wednesday and Thursday night favors.

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Clark Brown: the super informed and the super diligent, and those who are in the know, and also those who have the advantage of very flexible scheduling, and I don't think it's appropriate to give those

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Clark Brown: those people who enjoy those advantages that sort of a benefit. So I reluctantly.

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Clark Brown: I've decided i'm against proceeding on Wednesday and Thursday.

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Alley Bean: Okay, Thank you, Clark. So that is your hand up a new

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Soledad Ursua: Yes, you know. I think i'm just thinking that all this.

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Soledad Ursua: you know, we've we can't. The meeting has been canceled. I think the best and easiest thing would be to do this on zoom. It's we've been. We've spent 3 years on zoom. We could have somebody just interview candidates. Maybe each candidate gets 4 min.

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Soledad Ursua: We could do it so that you know, and it's stored somewhere so that people can maybe watch it another day if they can't show up, because now I do think now that we're moving it around, and we're trying to, you know, Figure out the times. I feel like we're we're really gonna lose people. It's very unfortunate that our election administrator did this, you know, I would ask that they still

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Soledad Ursua: go forward with their contract. And actually, host, this via Zoom. But I think that the zoom is going to be the best option for us. I just think nobody is going to show up.

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Soledad Ursua: So those are just some of my concerns.

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Alley Bean: Thank you. So.

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Alley Bean: Nico to Jim. Rob. You have your hand out.

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Jim Robb: Yeah. Well, I think I agree. I agree with solo that I think

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Jim Robb: I think we gotta do it via zoom.

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Jim Robb: and I think we extended a day

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Jim Robb: and do it Thursday and Friday, or even Friday and Saturday. I mean. I think we give it one day, and we do a zoom, and we have the the people running for the higher offices one day, and the community officers the next.

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Jim Robb: and just let everybody know. So that's That's how I think we should handle it and do it all zoom.

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Alley Bean: Thank you, Jim. n goes your hand up, or you, or is that just because you're helping me?

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Nico Ruderman: No, it's up. I I just I just wanted to say I I I I strongly echo what Nick was saying. I I I think, after this I think we should

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Nico Ruderman: put a motion forward to refuse to pay whoever I I I can't remember the person's name. But whoever is the administrator of this, and then you know, Possibly, if we are going to do an in-person events use that money for that, but they they shouldn't get a dime, I mean if they failed, and and everything they were supposed to do

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Nico Ruderman: this. This. This election has been an absolute disaster.

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Jim Robb: I stuck at that motion, Nick.

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Alley Bean: Well, that will come later that as a different motion, is there any more public comment? Can anyone?

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CJ Cole: I think I just kind of do agree with the both Jim and Nico. I think we can hold it together for zoom.

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CJ Cole: and I think there is a way that we can do the zoom and record it so that people can still take a look at it at another time.

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CJ Cole: and

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CJ Cole: you know I would keep our same dates, since

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CJ Cole: what we have publicized is always had that date, and i'm from my emails. I am getting everything from it still going to it's canceled, you know, from you. Name it whether it's the Chamber of Commerce, or whoever it may be, you know different people have different

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CJ Cole: points in where they are. As far as this goes, I think we should just keep the same schedule, and if there's a way of recording it, just get that information out and go forward.

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CJ Cole: You know, I think we have to have

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CJ Cole: some way that particularly the new people have a chance to be heard. And

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CJ Cole: you know, hopefully with Zoom.

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CJ Cole: You know it would be nice if people would just turn their cameras on once in a while. But that's okay. Thank you.

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Alley Bean: Am I to say something while i'm the chair or not. Jim. Yeah, no, you can't I? I I can't raise my hand because i'm the host the system doesn't allow that. So at some point I would like to say something also. Okay, I just had a thought. Cj: when you were talking we could ask Tracy if he might say

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Alley Bean: right after she's done at 6 30. We've had a terrible problem with the school. There's a strike. We would love all of you to go to the Bnc website and press the zoom link and see all of the at-large candidates because they're mostly the new people.

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Alley Bean: the I mean, if that's how we're going to do it at large one night, and the board of Officers the next night. I don't know how we can figure it out, but that need. But I think it'd be great if if Tracy would say, please just

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Alley Bean: right after her. Zoom, please check change over to the Vnc. Zoom, and we could have it like at 6 40, or something, you know, to give people time.

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Alley Bean: At least that's one, because I think a lot of people will be at that.

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Alley Bean: That zoom

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Alley Bean: about the you know the bridge housing.

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Alley Bean: Jim. Yours?

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jim murez: Yeah. Well, 1 s, and Nico has his hand.

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Alley Bean: Sorry, Nico, do you say, I think you already

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Alley Bean: was. That is your hands still up.

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Alley Bean: Yeah.

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Alley Bean: So, Jim.

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jim murez: So part of the problem that we're going to have going forward is First of all, we don't have a script. I don't know that we need one. We can just allow people to have an open.

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jim murez: We want to call, I know an open dialogue, but in the past we've always had scripts that address certain community issues that the Board is focused on over the previous couple of years. So I think that if if we wanted to to try and organize it a little bit better.

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jim murez: we probably want to have some kind of scripted question.

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jim murez: I'm more than happy to create a zoom link and post it on the website tonight. As soon as this is over, I don't particularly

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jim murez: relish the fact that having to set up all of the sound equipment

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jim murez: and the zoom equipment that was going to be set up at the school, excuse me at the At the Park. I did spend a week and a half getting everything working, to be able to do that where we would be able to simul cast or broadcast it for people that arrived live. But it was not going to be a hybrid meeting, meaning that candidates could call in

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jim murez: and and and participate in the Zoom Meeting along with people that were able to make it to a live meeting

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jim murez: that wasn't something that I anticipated. But I think that it probably makes a lot of sense, as several people on this meeting have said, to just do it strictly as a Zoom Meeting I was. I was trying away from a Zoom Meeting, because.

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jim murez: you know, I even made it clear to me that that was not something that he would do, and I just had that in my mind that that wasn't something that we wanted to do. But I actually think it would be much easier at this late day to do it as a Zoom Meeting.

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jim murez: you know, and and it we just have to decide if we're going to do it as a Zoom Meeting. How do we want to line it up

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jim murez: if we give each candidate? I just did a little bit of math if we give each candidate 10 min of speak time, and that could be over. Just a straight dialogue or broken up into everybody gets, you know, a minute to answer a question, and they get 10 questions, or however we look at it.

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jim murez: We're talking about a little over 8 h.

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Alley Bean: What would the map be if you gave everybody 4 min to make a 4 min.

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Alley Bean: because that's pretty. That's pretty good amount of time. I'm not trying to say what it should be. I'm just trying to say that you know this is the kind of thinking that we have to do. I don't think it's that complicated. I think Nick is correct. It's just not that difficult

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jim murez: to to host this thing on, zoom and and make it happen so

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Alley Bean: so we could. Certainly we could certainly modify this message.

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jim murez: Excuse me this motion to read that we're going to do it on these nights or on some other nights to then be done on zoom rather than to be done at penmark.

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CJ Cole: Okay, I would like to make that motion the same time, just not at, but via zoom. Does anyone second that motion?

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Alley Bean: Okay, now we take public comment, Jim, or just

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jim murez: let me do this. So we figure out, Make this all one swoop. So we don't have to do this. We need an alternate motion. So what are we saying? Wait, wait a minute. You got a motion on the floor. Yeah, i'm trying to write it down on the motion on top of it I that i'm trying to make You're not closely running the meeting.

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Alley Bean: I bet i'm trying to get it

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Ivan: right, and I use me guys.

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Alley Bean: Let me tell her what to do.

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Ivan: All right. You have an original motion.

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Alley Bean: You think you want to have a second motion.

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Alley Bean: The the amendment, as opposed to the original motion. You can't do that.

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Jim Robb: Our Our forum starts at 9 30 at night tomorrow. First of all, we need to do it at 70'clock.

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Jim Robb: and not at 90'clock because nobody's going to show up. So that's all I want to put in there is that it should be 70'clock tomorrow night.

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Jim Robb: Thank you.

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Ivan: All right. What, Ali! What's the motion on the call?

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Alley Bean: Motion?

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Alley Bean: I it's it's up. It's up above, and then and it's hidden. The board of officers approves moving the location of the candidate forum to Penmar Park. Wednesday, 3 22 and Thursday 3, 23 between the hours of 6 30 and 9, and we want to and see. J. Asked to amend that to the Board of Officers approves

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Alley Bean: moving the candidate Forum to zoom. Wednesday, 3, 22, and Thursday 3, 23 between. So it's the same thing as just

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Ivan: the the location is changed from Pandemic. You're not going to. You're not going to go to Penmar Park. You're just going to do it on Zoom. Correct. That's the amendment right? So you can do that as an amendment right? It's going to change a couple of work. Okay, and can I get a second for that?

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Ivan: Alright, Good

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Alley Bean: flark seconds it.

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Alley Bean: The maker

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Alley Bean: and clerk is the second.

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Ivan: Okay. Now you have to reopen public comment, so I would now reopen public comment.

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Alley Bean: Nico, can you help me about the whole motion? They can only talk on whether to do it on zoom or not. Yeah, I don't mind helping. I I I apologize. I was half paying attention through that.

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Alley Bean: So so what real quick are are, Are Are we changing at the time or place, or what? What are we seeing? Some clear the public comment is on the motion to change the candidate forum to a zoom format at 6, 30 on Wednesday and 6 30 on Thursday.

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Alley Bean: And I say, what you and spacing parks thing goes until 7 or 6. No, no, no, no. She has a hard out at 6, 30, okay.

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Alley Bean: And and we're hoping that she will announce our forum after until people the

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Alley Bean: Okay, this is all you're You're off here. Guys just do one thing at a time.

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CJ Cole: 30 s. Okay?

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Alley Bean: Well, how do I do that, Jim, just say

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Alley Bean: it's up to you. You You can let him ask. You can let him state his, his, his position, if it's a desired amendment, and then do we have to open? We just add a sentence at the end, which, says the President of the Vnc. She will determine the format

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Clark Brown: and the thinking behind that is, Jumia has obviously gave some thought to what how the format can be handled, and it's. If we open it up to a discussion, it's gonna go on forever. Just give him the discretion to work out a a fair format.

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Alley Bean: Okay, I mean, my, my, my personal feeling is we we might get into the weeds. I think that's just. We could just let that happen without if we put it in the thing

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Ivan: all right. He is proposing another amendment. You need to get a second.

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Alley Bean: Okay? Oh, wait a second. That's not true. You can ask Cj. If she's willing to amend her motion, and if she is

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CJ Cole: no Ivan, you shouldn't be running the meeting, Ivan. I'm. Running the meeting. Cj: do you want to make that amendment? Well, I know I don't want to make that amendment. I want to just go forward amendments that I may.

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Alley Bean: which is zoom between 6, 30, and 90'clock. I I really I I don't know if i'm allowed as the now that i'm running this. But I just think it's so much easier if that's gonna get contentious. Let's just

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Alley Bean: we'll work all that out. But I don't think it's only 30 s.

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Alley Bean: Okay. So we have the public comment. Who's the first

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Nico Ruderman: first up is I'm: i'm sorry I don't if it's Reagan or Regan Kivi. I apologize. But first

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Regan Kibbee: reagan, Hi! Can you guys hear me? Okay, so just a quick comment. I'm all for changing it to a zoom. At this point. This is Reagan could be from Venice, move moms, and just to have the most possible outreach with this short amount of time. So thank you very much. Thumped up 2 thumbs up to moving it to zoom.

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Alley Bean: Thank you so much, Raymond.

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Alley Bean: Next.

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Alley Bean: Are there more hands up, Nico.

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Alley Bean: Nico.

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Nico Ruderman: I apologize. I'm dealing with a 1 million things here. Yeah, next up is Shawn O'brien.

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Alley Bean: Maybe zoom. I approve. Thank you.

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Alley Bean: Thank you. Shawn any other hands?

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Alley Bean: Nico.

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Nico Ruderman: Yes, next up is

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Nico Ruderman: Lisa Redmond, Lisa Redmond.

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Alley Bean: Go, Lisa.

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Lisa Redmond: hey? Hi! I hate to throw an amendment to your amendment. But I think this all can be done on one night from 6, 30 to 9 on Thursday.

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Lisa Redmond: At this point it's way less than 24 h. It's going to be so unfair to the people that go on the first night. What about me? I want to go to Tracy's form, and then how do I rush from Tracy's form, then over to zoom. Well, it it just it.

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Lisa Redmond: I would rather do it all on one night. Get us maximum publicity to everyone.

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Lisa Redmond: Have Nick format it that he just calls on people. They get 3 min boom done in and out. I don't think everyone's going to show up. I think it all can be done from 6 to 3 to 9 on one night.

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Lisa Redmond: Thank you, Lisa. You You wouldn't have to go anywhere just by the way.

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Alley Bean: Okay.

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Alley Bean: are there? Are there more public comments?

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Helen Fallon: Can you find? Yeah, I found the button. Yeah, I was going to say, did it to the previous comments, but at least it through our wrench. Here it is an option to just say, to just have one global question for everybody, and they get 3 min to answer it, and you get it all done. And

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Helen Fallon: any one zoom that's that could be a possibility. But I definitely i'm glad you're going to zoom. Thank you. At least it gives everybody not a equal opportunity.

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Alley Bean: Thank you, Helen.

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Nico Ruderman: Thanks, Helen. Next up's Robin. Okay, Your Us.

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Robin Murez: Hi: yeah. So I think again, whatever you can do to accommodate this. You guys are doing the right thing, and we just, I I think, ally suggestion of asking Tracy to announce it is excellent that we'll definitely draw a lot of people, and you may have to have somebody other than our current outreach

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Robin Murez: person handling the outreach on this because she is one of the corrupt candidates who has not been enabling the election to be an open

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Robin Murez: election forum. So please make sure that anybody who comes in that public media. Does

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Alley Bean: anyone else? Nico

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Alley Bean: Nico

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Nico Ruderman: keeps freezing. I apologize. J. Jill Crosby.

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Alley Bean: Thank you. Go ahead, Jill. Oh, wait and not until like Jim on mute. Did you get her? I think i'm unmuted? Okay, great. There you go. Okay, thanks. Yeah, I agree. I agree with the comments, Prior. I think it should be consolidated onto one day. I think it should be jumped away from Tracy's

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Jill Crosby: Forum. I know that she finishes a hard out at 6 30, but we're a hard in at 6 30. That's going to be a conflict for a lot of people who want to jump away and get a break and whatnot, and that might limit the comments to the first

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Jill Crosby: few candidates as well as i'm Just curious. Isn't this Freddy's domain. Still, or i'm not sure exactly how we're doing this. I'm for it. But I'm just confused.

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Jim Robb: Thank you.

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Nico Ruderman: Erica. More is next.

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Erica Moore: Hey, there? Sorry about that.

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Erica Moore: I agree with it. Actually going close to 7 as well, because I think a lot of people are going to be exhausted after during the Forum. Most.

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Sean Obrien: I think that will actually bring more people to the meeting that might not have come to the wrong.

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Alley Bean: Oh, Shawn, I can hear you. So so so

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Alley Bean: thanks, guys go ahead. Okay, sorry. So anyways, just to wrap up. I think it would be great. It is going to be hard to do it on one night

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Erica Moore: what they did on the last 2 years ago was, they had the executives on one night, and then they had all the officers committee officers on another, which might make more sense because it'd be a lot shorter on the first night with Tracy if they did all the executives.

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Erica Moore: Just an idea. And then did the officers on

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Erica Moore: Thursday.

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Alley Bean: Okay, thank you, Erica.

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Nico Ruderman: Next up is developer.

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Alley Bean: Go, developer.

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- ni developer: Yeah, so do we need to have moderators that are fair. No puppet recommends

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- ni developer: Iraq as well. and Michael Newhouse as your moderators. He

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- ni developer: hey? That's actually a good idea. Of course it is. It came from my mind.

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- ni developer: Yes, imagine the hard questions that they'll ask.

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- ni developer: And who is this Tracy person that you're referring to? She's not your friend. She's goat puppets friend. I put her in there

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Nico Ruderman: all in user is next calling user one.

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Call-In User_1: Thank you very much. Why do you have that loser from gun parasite, Freddie? Do it.

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Call-In User_1: I guarantee you, after you done all the hard work tonight. He's going to nix it, because that's what that piece of shit does. So you should thank him and give him a reputation for for him, causing all these problems for you guys. Thank you.

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02:45:35.140 --> 02:45:38.800
Alley Bean: Thank you. You gotta watch our language, guys. Okay, Thank you.

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Call-In User_1: Fuck that.

1372
02:45:42.080 --> 02:45:43.260
Alley Bean: Who's next

1373
02:45:43.580 --> 02:45:53.090
Alley Bean: next up is a Kalani, and then Steve Bradbury, and that's all the hands we have raised right now, and I'm going to close public public comment after what's the last one colony, or

1374
02:45:53.420 --> 02:45:58.540
Nico Ruderman: Steve Bradbury? I'm sorry I had a muted Steve. First

1375
02:45:58.880 --> 02:46:01.370
jim murez: take them in the other order, Steve, and then call me

1376
02:46:02.330 --> 02:46:19.340
Steve Bradbury: Okay, fine i'll, I'll happy to go. I just wanna say I support the idea of doing the all the at large on Thursday and the other candidates all on Wednesday. I think that makes a lot of sense, and it'll keep the evening relatively short for both in both cases. Thank you.

1377
02:46:19.360 --> 02:46:20.410
Alley Bean: Thank you.

1378
02:46:23.940 --> 02:46:26.000
Alley Bean: Now.

1379
02:46:26.060 --> 02:46:27.030
jim murez: Kalani.

1380
02:46:27.280 --> 02:46:29.250
Alley Bean: come on. You're up.

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02:46:29.650 --> 02:46:44.120
Kalani W: I agree with having most of the candidates on Thursday. All of the candidates on Thursday would be better, because they would give 24 h to get the word out. But if, if if need be, splitting the the

1382
02:46:44.170 --> 02:47:03.400
Kalani W: Executive on Wednesday and the at large on Thursday's great, and if we go to in meeting, can I? I? I'm. Dying to know who sock, puppet, goat, and the developer is as a person get D in a meat. Yeah.

1383
02:47:03.490 --> 02:47:08.790
Alley Bean: thank you.

1384
02:47:11.410 --> 02:47:17.230
Alley Bean: Please raise your hand if you would like to make a comment. I see Nico.

1385
02:47:18.680 --> 02:47:21.340
Alley Bean: or you just use your hand up because you're helping me.

1386
02:47:21.580 --> 02:47:31.990
Nico Ruderman: No, I I I A lot of interesting comments. One of them is about changing the time, another about not having it, you know, having more notice than just tomorrow.

1387
02:47:32.060 --> 02:47:47.240
Nico Ruderman: You know our our Council member could still help us announcing it hopefully. She would. That being said, this has taken way too long. I don't think we should make any more amendments. I I think we should vote on as soon, and and just move back onto our regular meeting, because.

1388
02:47:47.670 --> 02:47:49.760
Nico Ruderman: you know, a lot of us have to get the bad.

1389
02:47:50.860 --> 02:47:53.110
Alley Bean: Okay, Jim Rob.

1390
02:47:53.400 --> 02:48:04.060
Jim Robb: Okay, here are my thoughts. I think, because everybody is worried at 6, 30 and she's speaking. I think we do it all on Thursday. and just change that on the

1391
02:48:04.860 --> 02:48:09.000
Jim Robb: amendment and go from there. But that's what my thought. So

1392
02:48:10.240 --> 02:48:13.860
Alley Bean: Thank you, Jim Cj.

1393
02:48:17.580 --> 02:48:19.960
Alley Bean: Wait, hold on to Suj. You're not unmuted yet.

1394
02:48:20.770 --> 02:48:31.050
CJ Cole: I just really think we we need to do the motion. If we start making more amendments, we have to go more, the public comment. I think we can do the executive officers

1395
02:48:31.070 --> 02:48:40.260
CJ Cole: on yeah on Wednesday, which is going to be shorter, and we can decide. We want to started it 7 instead of 6. That's fine.

1396
02:48:40.310 --> 02:48:50.440
CJ Cole: and but I do think we need to divide it because it just is way. Too many people to hear from in an hour or in one evening, and you'd get

1397
02:48:50.470 --> 02:48:53.470
CJ Cole: totally confused, so I would like to

1398
02:48:54.140 --> 02:48:57.720
CJ Cole: leave my motion, as is, and call for a vote.

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02:48:59.200 --> 02:49:03.120
Alley Bean: Jim, is it? Is that your hands still up or

1400
02:49:03.420 --> 02:49:05.690
Alley Bean: no, Nico, is your hands still up?

1401
02:49:08.050 --> 02:49:19.370
Alley Bean: Is there anyone else that I can't see you, Jim Miras, Did you have a comment? Okay, Clark Brown. Anybody else. Mike? Bravo! I can't see hands. No, no.

1402
02:49:19.380 --> 02:49:21.850
Alley Bean: Okay. So

1403
02:49:22.140 --> 02:49:36.550
Alley Bean: that I I I just want us. I'm gonna make my 2 cents, too. That I think 2 nice is better just because I I went to the candidate forum at Evna, and it was really long with just the at large officers.

1404
02:49:36.590 --> 02:49:38.830
Alley Bean: I think we need to find a way to.

1405
02:49:39.050 --> 02:49:50.160
Alley Bean: You know. We can talk about this all later like how to format it. But my vote would be for 2 nights, too. But so what what do I do? I just. We call everybody's names.

1406
02:49:50.670 --> 02:49:51.490
Alley Bean: Sorry.

1407
02:49:51.820 --> 02:50:07.950
jim murez: Okay, Jim Miras. So the motion is okay. We know what the motion is. Right. Okay? Great? Yes, Mike Bro. Jason Sugars.

1408
02:50:07.950 --> 02:50:13.650
jim murez: So I don't read these names that Aren't here.

1409
02:50:13.680 --> 02:50:15.910
Alley Bean: Correct. Okay.

1410
02:50:16.010 --> 02:50:19.610
Alley Bean: Jim Robb. Jason Sugars

1411
02:50:19.670 --> 02:50:25.710
Alley Bean: Ali Bean. I vote. Yes. Kylon. Yes, Mike. Bravo!

1412
02:50:25.770 --> 02:50:26.590
Mike Bravo: Yes.

1413
02:50:26.720 --> 02:50:27.840
Alley Bean: solid Dad.

1414
02:50:27.950 --> 02:50:32.750
Alley Bean: Yes, T. J. Cole, Yes, Mark Brown.

1415
02:50:32.830 --> 02:50:38.950
Alley Bean: The motion passes. I can't.

1416
02:50:40.570 --> 02:50:43.470
Ivan: Okay. Now.

1417
02:50:43.740 --> 02:50:49.830
Ivan: Now you have to go back and get a vote on the motion as amended.

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02:50:50.790 --> 02:51:00.870
Alley Bean: Oh, I whether you just took a vote on the amendment. Now you have to vote on the motion hold motion as amended. Now i'm going to take a vote on the motion as amended Jim Murray.

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02:51:00.940 --> 02:51:03.660
jim murez: Yes, but i'm not sure you have to do that.

1420
02:51:03.770 --> 02:51:06.120
Alley Bean: Well, i'm we're gonna do it. Nigo Redeman.

1421
02:51:06.670 --> 02:51:21.020
Alley Bean: Yes. Kelly Bean Yes, Kylan Yes, Mike Brabo. Yes. yes.

1422
02:51:21.110 --> 02:51:23.020
Alley Bean: Now does the meeting go back to Jim?

1423
02:51:23.290 --> 02:51:30.420
jim murez: Oh, so now we go on to Number 8. We don't have to do this anymore.

1424
02:51:30.810 --> 02:51:32.280
Ivan: What? What? We should vote?

1425
02:51:32.850 --> 02:51:34.300
Alley Bean: 10 0.

1426
02:51:35.850 --> 02:51:37.710
Ivan: Well, you don't have a quorum.

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02:51:38.240 --> 02:51:39.340
jim murez: Thank you. I

1428
02:51:42.320 --> 02:51:46.630
Ivan: now don't you say, thank you. The motion doesn't pass. If you don't get 11 votes.

1429
02:51:50.760 --> 02:52:03.460
Bruno Hernandez: This this is Bruno. I don't think they called me I I I didn't. I didn't know. How do you? How do you vote right up.

1430
02:52:03.570 --> 02:52:04.920
Jim Robb: Thank you, Bruno.

1431
02:52:05.430 --> 02:52:12.870
Alley Bean: What's your heart so we can move on now of funds. We now are gonna overlook that, because we don't need them

1432
02:52:13.020 --> 02:52:18.510
Alley Bean: for the

1433
02:52:18.680 --> 02:52:23.240
Alley Bean: Bruno in the in the amended one. But Bruno voted. Yes.

1434
02:52:23.920 --> 02:52:43.110
Alley Bean: we don't have to approve funds because we're not using funds, and now we got a item Number 9 selection of candidate moderator at the time of posting this agenda, the election administrator, Michael Lynn, and is this nive and spiel have expressed that they are not interested in moderating at a last minute change in the candidate location. Under this condition

1435
02:52:43.110 --> 02:52:48.750
Alley Bean: the Board of offers just needs to approve another moderator motion. The Board of officers approves

1436
02:52:48.920 --> 02:52:51.410
Jim Robb: Nick at that, Nick our cello

1437
02:52:53.460 --> 02:52:54.830
Alley Bean: a second that

1438
02:52:55.470 --> 02:53:01.210
Alley Bean: can I put Nick in?

1439
02:53:01.370 --> 02:53:02.840
Jim Robb: Where are you?

1440
02:53:03.720 --> 02:53:06.740
jim murez: Let's see if they could

1441
02:53:06.970 --> 02:53:08.700
jim murez: if he's still willing to do it.

1442
02:53:10.760 --> 02:53:18.460
Alley Bean: Nick, if you're still on, can you call me or he's here? I'm allowed Nick you're allowed to talk.

1443
02:53:20.160 --> 02:53:22.630
Nick Antonicello: Nick. Yeah.

1444
02:53:24.630 --> 02:53:28.580
Jim Robb: I don't know how to run a Zoom Meeting. So

1445
02:53:28.720 --> 02:53:36.080
Alley Bean: that's okay. You just need the moderator. The person that will ask questions to the candidates.

1446
02:53:36.080 --> 02:54:00.310
Alley Bean: I just don't understand why you have an election ministry. It still doesn't want to do his job because we're getting ready. We got to move on. So i'm we're putting you in the the board of Proves Nick and tennis cello to moderate the candidate forms on 322 and 323. It's understood. This is a volunteer. No payment position. We'll buy you a glass wine. Okay, now we go to the comment.

1447
02:54:00.580 --> 02:54:08.330
Alley Bean: Oh, I'm: sorry. Yes, the call for the motion maker. I'll make the motion. I'll make the motion.

1448
02:54:08.380 --> 02:54:12.380
Ivan: Second, Wait, wait, hold on.

1449
02:54:12.830 --> 02:54:19.100
Ivan: You need to ask if anybody else is interested, and so let somebody nominate them.

1450
02:54:19.460 --> 02:54:22.300
Ivan: You can just take one name and cut it off like that.

1451
02:54:24.340 --> 02:54:27.520
Ivan: You have to be anybody else on this call. Interesting.

1452
02:54:28.640 --> 02:54:32.730
jim murez: Well, before we go there. We do have a hand up from the election

1453
02:54:32.940 --> 02:54:35.540
jim murez: from the election Administrator.

1454
02:54:37.850 --> 02:54:49.700
Alley Bean: How would the person let you know if they're interested in doing it. I have no idea.

1455
02:54:50.660 --> 02:55:03.510
Alley Bean: can we? Just? We have. We have 41 attendees. Anybody out of those 41 decides they kind of to cello, interested in moderating this

1456
02:55:04.620 --> 02:55:10.460
Jim Robb: this Forum tomorrow and the next day. And, Helen all these hands.

1457
02:55:10.620 --> 02:55:12.310
Jim Robb: Now we get it. So

1458
02:55:12.390 --> 02:55:20.620
Alley Bean: you missed what I've been, said?

1459
02:55:20.640 --> 02:55:28.310
jim murez: Ivan said. Does anybody want to nominate somebody to

1460
02:55:28.630 --> 02:55:33.710
jim murez: do this, and anybody can nominate themselves or anybody else is what he's saying

1461
02:55:34.080 --> 02:55:40.260
Ivan: right? But they can't be a candidate for obvious, free from correct. Okay.

1462
02:55:40.660 --> 02:55:46.420
Jim Robb: everybody, please let Ali run the meeting.

1463
02:55:46.770 --> 02:55:47.680
Alley Bean: So

1464
02:55:54.530 --> 02:56:13.170
Alley Bean: hold on, Hold on, Ivan. Do I need to call on Michael in before we ask people to raise their hands if they would like to nominate someone. Well, that's really up to you, I mean, I I would suggest you do, because he might have an idea on it.

1465
02:56:13.370 --> 02:56:17.640
Alley Bean: Okay. So is that okay? That Michael Lynn.

1466
02:56:18.140 --> 02:56:28.670
Michael Lynn: Okay. So you are calling on me? Yes, okay. So I want to make it very clear at this point that I did not. I did not say I would not moderate

1467
02:56:28.950 --> 02:56:35.460
Michael Lynn: in in this situation. What I was expressing to Jim, was that to do a zoom

1468
02:56:35.510 --> 02:56:49.330
Michael Lynn: forum? It requires 3 people, and if I don't have, if there isn't 3 people running it, we don't have the necessary components, the logistics to run it. I am totally totally

1469
02:56:49.480 --> 02:56:55.670
Michael Lynn: open to moderating it or running the technical part of it. And then we need a third person to run the timer.

1470
02:56:56.150 --> 02:57:04.610
Ivan: Okay? Well, you're You're You're You're putting it together. And Nick's asking the question. Guys, let Ally run the meeting.

1471
02:57:04.620 --> 02:57:14.580
Alley Bean: Okay, I just want to be very clear that I'm. Totally open to being a moderator. I think it's open to technically running it. In other words, bringing people in bringing people out.

1472
02:57:14.590 --> 02:57:20.340
Michael Lynn: and i'm, I'm. Definitely open to that. I never ever ever said that I wouldn't do it.

1473
02:57:20.400 --> 02:57:22.060
Alley Bean: Okay, thank you, Michael.

1474
02:57:23.470 --> 02:57:24.710
Alley Bean: So

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02:57:24.990 --> 02:57:39.130
Alley Bean: at the moment the motion is that the Board of officers approves nix antenna cella. But Michael has kindly offered to do the tech work, which is great, too. I mean, since we have somebody that would moderate it, somebody that that would would do the tech work.

1476
02:57:39.230 --> 02:57:58.890
Alley Bean: I think that would be all right. You need me to open it up now to to to the other people who have their so anyone with their hands up, please it. And this is only for people that would like to make a recommendation for a moderator or recommend themselves as a moderator. So yeah, i'm gonna allow to speak, Helen.

1477
02:58:00.350 --> 02:58:16.410
Alley Bean: I would like to recommend that you reach out to the Evna who's got a lot of experience running Zoom: I did, Helen. Yeah, none of them. They're not available. They would have been a good result, and and that was the first You've already done that great. Thank you.

1478
02:58:16.910 --> 02:58:21.180
Alley Bean: Okay.

1479
02:58:23.070 --> 02:58:26.650
Alley Bean: Do you have a recommendation colony, either yourself or another person?

1480
02:58:27.260 --> 02:58:40.420
Kalani W: Not specifically. I just again suggest reaching out to other neighborhood councils. If you can't find anyone, but it sounds like you have more than enough people to help you run it. Thank you.

1481
02:58:41.050 --> 02:58:42.660
Alley Bean: Are there any more hands up.

1482
02:58:46.650 --> 02:58:47.740
Alley Bean: developer?

1483
02:58:49.080 --> 02:58:57.220
- ni developer: I know you want You want goat puppet right? Well, no, no, human, Michael. We know somebody very qualified.

1484
02:58:57.550 --> 02:59:05.050
- ni developer: Bill Pppet recommends Terrence Golds.

1485
02:59:05.340 --> 02:59:07.660
Alley Bean: Is there any other hands up?

1486
02:59:07.790 --> 02:59:12.230
Alley Bean: Let's see Nick's hand is still up.

1487
02:59:12.510 --> 02:59:15.530
jim murez: He hang on. There's other people. There's

1488
02:59:15.540 --> 02:59:17.880
Alley Bean: call in user. One you're on.

1489
02:59:18.810 --> 02:59:24.360
Call-In User_1: I know Michael Lynn would want to volunteer me. But I like to volunteer. Go puppet.

1490
02:59:24.890 --> 02:59:27.150
Alley Bean: Thank you very much.

1491
02:59:28.070 --> 02:59:30.420
Nico Ruderman: Okay, let's see.

1492
02:59:30.680 --> 02:59:37.300
Ivan: Okay, if they're available

1493
02:59:37.310 --> 02:59:38.600
Ivan: if they want to do it.

1494
02:59:39.150 --> 02:59:41.350
Alley Bean: Sorry, Ivan Don't Crosby. You're on.

1495
02:59:41.760 --> 02:59:50.040
Jill Crosby: Yeah. I was also thinking about reaching out to adjacent city count, I mean Vnc: They were sugars.

1496
02:59:50.180 --> 03:00:00.130
Jill Crosby: Yeah, re reaching out to other councils around us, or even asking if the field representative is. I don't know if that's legit. But if a field representative could do it.

1497
03:00:01.030 --> 03:00:04.190
Alley Bean: other councils to to ask the questions, Jill, or

1498
03:00:04.420 --> 03:00:06.330
Jill Crosby: to help run the meeting.

1499
03:00:07.400 --> 03:00:20.050
Jill Crosby: Yeah, like to moderate the meeting to ask the questions, because it sounds like you've got Nick, and then it sounds like You've also got Michael. So you sounds like you need a third person, and it might be somebody who

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03:00:20.980 --> 03:00:31.120
Jill Crosby: sorry. I thought you. I thought someone Michael, is somebody to do the timer which can be anybody. So Michael would moderate. Okay, got it? Thanks.

1501
03:00:34.200 --> 03:00:40.230
Alley Bean: Are there any more hands up?

1502
03:00:40.280 --> 03:00:54.570
Robin Murez: Okay. So I think that the way the motion reads is the way it should be handled that you have Nick as the moderator. Anybody else who would be assisting could be decided later. Personally, I feel that

1503
03:00:54.570 --> 03:01:03.630
Ivan: Michael Lynn and Ivan Spiegel have absolutely made a travesty of this election, and are the last people who should have

1504
03:01:04.210 --> 03:01:14.360
Robin Murez: not off topic. Just vote on the motion the way it stands, and you don't need to identify any other people. Thank you, Robin. Is there anyone else? Nico.

1505
03:01:14.830 --> 03:01:16.880
Alley Bean: Yeah, Elizabeth Elizabeth.

1506
03:01:17.010 --> 03:01:18.160
Nico Ruderman: Was that correct?

1507
03:01:20.010 --> 03:01:29.400
Elizabeth Wright: I I think it is appropriate for Michael Lyn to be the moderator. He is not a member of the the Venice Neighborhood Council. He has nothing to win and lose

1508
03:01:29.610 --> 03:01:34.070
Elizabeth Wright: regarding any particular candidate and kind of be unbiased.

1509
03:01:34.950 --> 03:01:40.390
Alley Bean: It's it's it's it's it's it's Neighborhood Council

1510
03:01:40.510 --> 03:01:43.490
Elizabeth Wright: to to have that same claim.

1511
03:01:43.890 --> 03:01:45.720
Alley Bean: Okay, Thank you, Liz

1512
03:01:46.820 --> 03:01:49.980
Alley Bean: Lisa Redmond has her hand up. Lisa Redmond, Go ahead.

1513
03:01:50.080 --> 03:01:55.820
Alley Bean: and then is that the end of public comment? Can we close it?

1514
03:01:56.020 --> 03:02:13.400
Lisa Redmond: Thank you, Lisa. Go ahead. Thank you. I like the motion. As it is, I think Nick would be a great moderator. That's why I named him. I think we should make Michael do his what he's getting paid for. He'd be greater technical. And I think we have no problem in the next 12 to 18 h finding a timer

1515
03:02:13.540 --> 03:02:14.750
Lisa Redmond: locally.

1516
03:02:14.920 --> 03:02:19.150
Lisa Redmond: And so we should just move forward. Thank you so much for that. Thank you.

1517
03:02:19.820 --> 03:02:26.690
Alley Bean: Now can, since we close public comment, Can I open board? Comment?

1518
03:02:28.330 --> 03:02:35.910
Nick Antonicello: So your your hands still up, or is that from before you?

1519
03:02:36.730 --> 03:02:53.700
Nick Antonicello: It's, you know, make, you know. Try to make a limited lemon here. But I I want Michael the administrator to work with me. I want him involved. We may disagree on other issues, but if we're gonna get this off the ground we have to have cooperation work together.

1520
03:02:54.400 --> 03:03:12.200
Alley Bean: I have no problem with unity. Sounds like a great idea. Okay, Can we make the motion? Do I have a May? Oh, no, wait a board Comment: Wait! No, we need board, comment, and it would be great if nobody wants to comment, because we're so. But far behind. We haven't gotten to our minutes yet. We didn't get a second.

1521
03:03:12.200 --> 03:03:19.310
Alley Bean: Who is that? Jim R.

1522
03:03:22.530 --> 03:03:35.190
Alley Bean: We're going to call for the vote? Yes, okay, Great call for the boat. So James Meres Nico Rutherman. I'm sorry

1523
03:03:35.240 --> 03:03:36.550
Alley Bean: he's let him in.

1524
03:03:36.780 --> 03:03:40.580
Nico Ruderman: You're ahead of me. Bruno is second.

1525
03:03:40.640 --> 03:03:43.330
Alley Bean: Did you get Bruno's vote? Yes, he said. Yes.

1526
03:03:43.410 --> 03:03:44.140
Soledad Ursua: Okay.

1527
03:03:44.190 --> 03:03:45.380
Alley Bean: Nicole Redman.

1528
03:03:47.200 --> 03:03:50.890
Alley Bean: Yes.

1529
03:03:53.880 --> 03:03:58.270
Alley Bean: Ali Bean. Yes. Kylon. Yes, Mike. Bravo.

1530
03:03:58.530 --> 03:04:09.140
Alley Bean: Solid. Add or or squat. Yes, C. J. Cole, Mark Brown. Yes, motion passes 11 0 0.

1531
03:04:09.880 --> 03:04:14.640
jim murez: Okay, so that ends. Is that

1532
03:04:15.050 --> 03:04:19.240
jim murez: Oh, thank you, everybody. We made it. Now we can go back and have our meeting.

1533
03:04:20.470 --> 03:04:23.300
Clark Brown: Thank you, Ali. Everybody

1534
03:04:23.400 --> 03:04:33.180
Alley Bean: Good job and and thank you, Michael. We're agreeing that this meeting is adjourned, and we're going to return to

1535
03:04:33.460 --> 03:04:39.810
jim murez: our previous meeting and go back down to where we left off.

1536
03:04:40.960 --> 03:04:44.340
jim murez: We have to call all of these folks back yet.

1537
03:04:44.400 --> 03:04:48.850
jim murez: So who is still online?

1538
03:04:49.260 --> 03:04:51.250
jim murez: Daffodil, if you can hear

1539
03:04:51.970 --> 03:04:54.730
jim murez: who else.

1540
03:04:57.400 --> 03:05:00.650
jim murez: Jay. if you're there.

1541
03:05:03.510 --> 03:05:06.410
Jason Sugars: What was it really?

1542
03:05:07.200 --> 03:05:09.010
jim murez: Who else is still here?

1543
03:05:09.200 --> 03:05:09.940
Jason Sugars: Is there?

1544
03:05:10.430 --> 03:05:12.930
Jason Sugars: It looks like current.

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Jason Sugars: Vicki.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I'm here in.

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Jason Sugars: But

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah, because it some of it look like tik Tok: so it's staff. It'll Jim. I'm: here. Okay, good

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Chie: Jason. Sugar is mute. Please

1550
03:05:33.540 --> 03:05:34.490
Jason Sugars: shall do

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03:05:35.400 --> 03:05:36.930
jim murez: J. S. To one

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it.

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jim murez: That's 200. Well, Jay is not a. M. Maybe, he's protested.

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jay handal: Day is here.

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jim murez: Okay, Good

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jim murez: Is everybody back?

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jim murez: I can't quite

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jim murez: okay. So approval of prior word minutes that we did. Okay, now we're down to the treasurer's report. Jay, Would you like to? Oh, wait a second.

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jim murez: Hang on 1 s.

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This is

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jim murez: this.

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jim murez: Oh.

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jim murez: before we do that. Let me ask Freddy Freddie. Are you still here?

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jim murez: Freddie is 90'clock. Did you have an answer for us whether or not you can help

1565
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jim murez: Devin? DC. Is Freddy still here?

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jim murez: Freddie appears to be logged in. I just don't see him, but he's on the meeting. Okay, Well.

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jim murez: okay, Jay, do you want to

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jim murez: give your treasures report.

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jay handal: Sure, real. Briefly, you can see the the dollars and cents of click.

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jay handal: The Department shows that's the first 4 categories. The financial report is in a link, as is the M. Er. And receipts.

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jay handal: We are totally up to date on Mvr. Is to be approved. We are totally up to date. On receipts in the portal

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Nick Antonicello: we have nothing outstanding. We got an extension on our 1 s hang on 1 s there. There's other people speaking

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Nick Antonicello: who who needs to mute you.

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Chie: Nick Antonello, please.

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jim murez: Okay. I think he was the only one he, I think I by accident. I left his ability permission to talk. Sorry. Why about

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jay handal: Okay, Go ahead, Jack. Anyway.

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We did request an increase on the credit card to be able to continue to pay bills. They have a $5,000 a month

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jay handal: limit. We were at that limit. So they did extend the credit card. We are paying all the other bills we are up to date on everybody that we have

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jay handal: any debt with the extra storage web corner. Everybody is paid now. and all the receipt to rent, so we're good, and we will end up spending

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jay handal: pretty much all of our money. We will be holding a budget meeting coming up. We will announce it soon.

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jay handal: We are going to need to move some money from categories. We only have money left in Npgs and Cips.

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jay handal: We are based on projections. If you look at the link. We are going to be over spent for the year in office, and we are going to be right on target, I believe, in outreach.

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jay handal: So we are going to have to move money from

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jay handal: one of the other 2 categories into office to cover the rest of our office expense, and that will leave us with probably in the vicinity of $2,000 total left between Mpgs and Cips

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jay handal: for the rest of the year. But we'll have that final number at the next budget meeting, which we will be holding after the election.

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jim murez: Okay, thank you. J: One quick question. Are we going to be getting any kind of a refund from the election committee or from the exact community. Excuse me from the election budget.

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jay handal: Yeah, there will be a small amount of money because we're not using the money for the school. So that's 200 and change. We know that.

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jay handal: And then, when all the rest of the bills are paid, we'll see what's left based on the budget, and whatever money is left. The Budget Committee will meet and recommend to the board that we move that into whichever category is necessary.

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jay handal: Thank you. The other thing. Just let me give you in the report. I'm sorry I forgot the cameras from last year.

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jay handal: I have a a call meeting with Jamie from Council Member Parks office on Thursday

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jay handal: to to to discuss the camera issue and getting that money put back into our budget, so that we can get the equipment that we bought, that the clerk said no to that done, said yes to, and then the clerk forgot about.

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jay handal: So you know hopefully them the CD Office, seeing that that money should have been spent and the cameras should have been purchased.

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jay handal: i'm hoping that with the right conversation.

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jay handal: Councilmember Park will be willing to do what my bonnet has done in the past, and do what other council members have done in the past. and that's the reinstate prior year money from the general fund

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jay handal: to get us the expenditure that we voted on, and should have had back in that fiscal year.

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jay handal: Thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you.

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jim murez: And I believe that we also received an email about the

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jim murez: question from Anna about the

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jim murez: walking tour.

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jay handal: Yeah. So an update, and I think I sent that to a couple of people. But the cip that we submitted the city clerk still working on. So we did receive an email saying, you is still working on it. I believe I sent it to you, Jim. I sent it to the maker of the motion from the committee.

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jay handal: and we're just waiting for them to either approve it, Deny it, change it

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jay handal: whatever they decide to do.

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jim murez: Thank you, Jay. Okay. Now let's move on to approval of the we're report the monthly expenditure report with somebody like to make the motion.

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jay handal: so i'll make the motion, Jim. But we had the February report as well.

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jim murez: I didn't get it in time to put it on the we'll do it next month. Yeah, we need a second. So this I need somebody to say their name. I heard Allie.

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jay handal: Where is Allie being she's here?

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jim murez: Okay. Do we have any public comment on this daffodil.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Jim? I'm not sure. I'm co-host, that I can see that you were a co-host.

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jim murez: I don't know. Let me go back and walk

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jim murez: I didn't. I'm purpose. Yeah, you're still co-host

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, hold on. For some reason it's not coming up. Hang on! I can demote you, and we promote you if it doesn't work. Yeah, maybe do that. Do that because the screen is not coming up.

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jim murez: Yeah.

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jim murez: Big Co.

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jim murez: Yes. Is that work?

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Daffodil Tyminski: Let me see here. Yeah. yeah, this is called on promoting Mikhail back into the meeting.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so we'll just take the hands as they appear developer. Why, don't you go ahead first?

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- ni developer: Yes, you see how Jay takes the fun out of a meeting.

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It's all perfect.

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- ni developer: He knows how to do bookkeeping. I want to worry. We're not. Maybe maybe not.

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- ni developer: Yes. And as you see, this is the J. Handle philosophy.

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- ni developer: Get it done transparency and balance books.

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- ni developer: Remember how we used to have things, Jim complete total chaos. But why why did Jim fuck up. Jay has the February numbers ready.

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- ni developer: but you didn't get it on the agenda. You could have put it on the special agenda.

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- ni developer: hey? That's right. That's right. Yes. But now we have to defer another month to get it all done. Not wait. So. Yes, unfortunately, don't puppet, we'll have to endorse J. Handle for re-election, even though he's against the first amendment. Nevertheless, without Jay

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- ni developer: this place would be put on exhaust of the

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Daffodil Tyminski: okay Nick Anton Cello. Why, don't you go.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Nick.

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Nick Antonicello: Yeah, my hand was just still up. I have 5 numbers that

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Daffodil Tyminski: nothing to say. Okay. Helen Fallon, go ahead.

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Helen Fallon: Yeah, I would appreciate knowing when the Budget Committee meeting will be meeting. But I would also appreciate that before it me that Jay would begin to reconcile his spreadsheet to the actual mers, since he is spreadsheet.

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Helen Fallon: has items that have been mis categorized. So it's difficult to really know from a spreadsheet what the ending balances are. Even with his projections. So please start reconciling to the herd. Thank you, Jerry.

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Daffodil Tyminski: A call on user one. Thank you, Helen. Call and user one go ahead.

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Call-In User_1: Thank you very much. If you could call on Freddie again, just ask them if there's no general public comment if the meeting can go forward. Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Finally Eric and more. Go ahead.

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Erica Moore: Hi, there! I'm a little confused, because I still haven't been paid yet for the cookies that I provided on December third for the sign lighting. So when I keep hearing that all the bills are paid.

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Erica Moore: i'm pretty frustrated. I've provided several invoices. I was told I was going to get a check in the very beginning, and that's what I require from my business. And then, until you know, 60 days for for first provided invoice

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Erica Moore: on our 17 R. No. 8 over 18.

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And then again.

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Erica Moore: I remember, like I, I have all logged down, and I will.

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the timeline. But this is ridiculous. It's finally been submitted.

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03:16:50.250 --> 03:16:55.010
Erica Moore: But now it's i'm curious if he submitted it properly.

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Did they need anything else for me? Don't hear anything from J.

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03:16:58.980 --> 03:16:59.760
Erica Moore: He doesn't

1645
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Erica Moore: or let me help you. You You paid.

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Erica Moore: I have a problem with that

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Erica Moore: I do accounting. I know what I've paid, and he's saying that I've been paid.

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and I have not. Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Robin Muir is, and then we'll close public comment with Robin. Go ahead, Robin.

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Robin Murez: I've never seen a financial statement that didn't have dates associated with items. The financial statement that is presented has Google repeatedly. But there are no dates on it. Who knows what those are associated with. Who knows if there was an additional bill to Google? It is there, the columns it's not even in columns. It's not in a spreadsheet. I mean. It is such

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Robin Murez: a complete.

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Robin Murez: lazy, messed up in inadequate tabulation. There's no separate tabulation showing everything that has gone into the elections. It is such improper accounting. It is just deplorable.

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Robin Murez: that's all.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. So with that will close public comments.

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jim murez: Okay, let's go back to committee. Comment. J: You have your hand up.

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03:18:19.610 --> 03:18:29.360
jay handal: Yeah. So just to respond to some of our stakeholders. The Cookie Invoice was submitted. It's sitting at the City clerk's office just waiting for them to cut a check.

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03:18:29.500 --> 03:18:46.130
jay handal: There's really nothing else to do. There's nothing else can be submitted there's nothing else I need to do, nor is there anything else she needs to do this is getting the city clerk to actually process it, get it to the Controller's office and have the check written

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jay handal: as to the last comments about the columns and the Google. You know it's a it's a spreadsheet. It's online on the Budget Committee, and it's very easy to read, and it's by column. It's by

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03:18:59.050 --> 03:19:11.000
jay handal: every section, outreach, elections, Office, Cip, Npg: and at the bottom of it there's actually even projected costs going forward until

1661
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jay handal: the end of the fiscal year. So i'm happy to answer any questions offline for anyone who has questions. But I think it's a very.

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03:19:21.690 --> 03:19:24.070
jay handal: It's very detailed

1663
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jay handal: of what what the expense was, how much it was who it went to, and in what category it went to.

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jay handal: And in some cases you will see

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jay handal: there are items on there that are not paid by clerk, yet there are X marks for submitted and paid, and that's why those numbers won't match. The city clerk's dashboard because the dashboard is only what's been paid

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jim murez: on on the paid side. Thank you, Jay. Let me let me interrupt a lot of this could be done at the

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jim murez: committee meeting. We're talking. We're talking about the monthly mer reports. I don't mean to cut you off, but that's good. It's already 9 15, and you know

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jim murez: we need to keep moving on. This stuff can happen at the committee. Anybody else have anything they want to say about them or report.

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jim murez: Okay, let's call for a vote. I don't see another hands up. I'm gonna vote. Yes, Daffodil, how do you vote?

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jim murez: Thank you, Jay.

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jay handal: Yes.

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jim murez: Vicki.

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jim murez: Okay. Thank you, Bruno.

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jim murez: All of you who are voting could unmute that. We can get through this quickly. Bruno back, Seema?

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03:20:43.760 --> 03:20:44.690
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

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jim murez: Nico.

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Nico Ruderman: Yes.

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03:20:49.080 --> 03:20:51.080
Jim Robb: Jim, Rob. Yes.

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jim murez: Jason.

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Jason Sugars: Yes.

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jim murez: Ali.

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Alley Bean: Yes.

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jim murez: Kai!

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jim murez: Kai.

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jim murez: Mike! Bravo!

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Mike Bravo: Yes.

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jim murez: solid. Add

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jim murez: Robert Tibetan.

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jim murez: Did anybody text him?

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03:21:18.320 --> 03:21:20.540
jim murez: I should do that right now. Sorry

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jim murez: when we keep going on now.

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Clark Brown: Clark. Yes.

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03:21:27.880 --> 03:21:28.670
Michael Jensen: Yes.

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jim murez: Patrick.

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Patrick McKinley: Yes.

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jim murez: thank you. Does any

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jim murez: nickel you have, Roberts, or I can do it. I get sex

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jim murez: and Bruno, are you here? Yes, I'm here. Sorry about that. Yes, thank you.

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jim murez: So did I get. Did I get everybody?

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jim murez: Yes, so that Kerry 17 0 0. Thank you all. I would like to reduce public comment from here on to 30 s, with everything except for the bluepeck items

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Michael Jensen: and and I think that's how we'll continue. I don't think that's even going to be relevant because your special meeting hijacked 2 h, and the applicant couldn't hang around. So i'm just incredibly dismayed that that we just basically I mean.

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Michael Jensen: There's that items coming off again.

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jim murez: Okay, then we won't worry about loop pack. We're giving 30 s to all the rest of the public comment. The time now is 9, 16. We want to get done before 110'clock.

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Ivan: You go on, Jim.

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03:22:45.160 --> 03:22:53.580
Ivan: The caller was correct. It's a probably a typo, but you left general public comment off of the agenda.

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jim murez: I I look back and forth. I can. Yeah, okay, we can take it right now. That's okay. All here. I'll add it in right here.

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Ivan: We can do it right here.

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jim murez: Then we're going to give everybody 30 s

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jim murez: there

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jim murez: and let me make it full. So it's real clear.

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jim murez: Okay, so let's take public comment before we go on to the consent items.

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03:23:33.200 --> 03:23:37.060
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, this is public comment on items, not on the agenda

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Daffodil Tyminski: developer. Go first.

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- ni developer: Yes, but this is a violation under 12,

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03:23:48.530 --> 03:23:52.000
- ni developer: see? And you have to give at least 1 min.

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03:23:52.260 --> 03:23:54.340
- ni developer: or you'll get Sue.

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03:23:54.510 --> 03:23:59.650
- ni developer: Freddy will tell you that. Yes. look at this.

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03:23:59.710 --> 03:24:09.250
- ni developer: Oh, hold on just a second developer, J. Ivan. Stop this. J. Ivan.

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jim murez: Does. Does the public comment at this point have to be 1 min, or can it be 36?

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jim murez: I'm going to remove you from the meeting? Stop! Interrupting.

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03:24:23.350 --> 03:24:25.880
jim murez: Are you there from here?

1722
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jim murez: Okay, do we have to get public comment 1 min, or can we give them 30 s?

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03:24:31.240 --> 03:24:36.230
Freddy Cupen-Ames: Unfortunately, you have to keep it an equal time for the duration of the meetings.

1724
03:24:38.070 --> 03:24:49.820
Freddy Cupen-Ames: What do you mean? Equal time for the duration? I'm. Talking about? This is just general public comment items not on the agenda.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: If it were initially starting as 30 s.

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jim murez: Then that'd be a different matter. But so then we'll leave it at 1 min for everybody. Okay, thank you. Did you have an an answer from your director. I did. Can you host a meeting?

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Freddy Cupen-Ames: We would not be able to host the meeting.

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jim murez: Okay.

1729
03:25:08.600 --> 03:25:12.470
jim murez: Alright? Thank you. Okay, developer.

1730
03:25:12.540 --> 03:25:14.510
jim murez: Your clock is starting you ready?

1731
03:25:14.570 --> 03:25:17.760
- ni developer: Yes, yes, criminal.

1732
03:25:17.810 --> 03:25:19.010
Jim Robb: Yeah.

1733
03:25:19.120 --> 03:25:22.270
- ni developer: And where is the public comment?

1734
03:25:22.490 --> 03:25:28.400
- ni developer: The Board has to put it on the board on the agenda, but it wasn't on there.

1735
03:25:28.560 --> 03:25:31.450
- ni developer: and Freddy knows what's gonna happen.

1736
03:25:31.640 --> 03:25:38.000
- ni developer: The entire meeting of everything on it will have to be quashed.

1737
03:25:38.080 --> 03:25:42.570
- ni developer: Yeah, somebody on this call. I i'm hearing rumors

1738
03:25:42.580 --> 03:25:48.080
- ni developer: is gonna file a rent. Okay? So again, this is the problem. Isn't it

1739
03:25:48.280 --> 03:25:56.200
- ni developer: And, Freddy, you know better. You're telling all the other in scenes. and you're in a that. A minimum 1 min

1740
03:25:56.240 --> 03:26:00.920
- ni developer: is the standard of legality accepted, that is.

1741
03:26:01.300 --> 03:26:13.540
- ni developer: and we saw the intelligence again on the great J. Handle. Notice how he wouldn't say anything about it. He knows when to keep his mouth close.

1742
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- ni developer: He deals with a lot of cops. There's stitches.

1743
03:26:18.270 --> 03:26:20.000
- ni developer: Yes, that's a good one.

1744
03:26:20.180 --> 03:26:25.840
- ni developer: Yes, if you have nothing good to see the fifth of my multiply.

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jim murez: Go ahead.

1746
03:26:29.560 --> 03:26:33.430
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Shadow Brian, Go ahead

1747
03:26:33.990 --> 03:26:41.000
Sean Obrien: all right, thanks. Looking forward to Nick being the moderator. I just want you guys to help him help me

1748
03:26:41.190 --> 03:26:44.390
Sean Obrien: help us. Whenever he speaks.

1749
03:26:44.410 --> 03:26:59.050
Sean Obrien: His microphone is so muted it is so difficult, and it will be so difficult if he can't fix that by tomorrow. So, Nick Buddy, everybody can yell help Nick with this microphone. Nature, Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you

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Daffodil Tyminski: colony, Washington. Go ahead.

1752
03:27:15.120 --> 03:27:15.980
Daffodil Tyminski: Connie.

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Kalani W: Yes, that's that's Whippington. But i'm sorry that's okay. It's something else.

1754
03:27:23.150 --> 03:27:29.700
Kalani W: According to what I'm seeing on the agenda line item Number 5

1755
03:27:29.740 --> 03:27:33.260
Kalani W: was announcements and public comment.

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03:27:33.350 --> 03:27:45.890
Kalani W: and states that 1 min will be allowed for public comment. So it is on the agenda, so i'm not sure how we proceed at this point regarding public comment I want to keep for repeating.

1757
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Kalani W: if we do not improve stakeholder participation throughout the Neighborhood Council system, Venice is an anomaly. It has 2.5%

1758
03:27:56.470 --> 03:28:14.540
Kalani W: stakeholder participation. But most neighborhood councils have less than one half of 1% stakeholder participation. I asked the question. Is it worth continuing? Wasting tens of millions of dollars? Taxpayer dollars on an Nc.

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03:28:14.610 --> 03:28:22.750
Kalani W: That is failing after 20 plus years? It may be time to try something new. Thank you.

1760
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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

1761
03:28:26.080 --> 03:28:29.010
Daffodil Tyminski: Call in user one. Go ahead.

1762
03:28:32.090 --> 03:28:36.810
Call-In User_1: Well, I can't blame this Neighborhood Council because of Freddy. The parasite

1763
03:28:37.600 --> 03:28:46.600
Call-In User_1: says it very clearly shall be posted on the agenda. It within the timely frame about general public comment.

1764
03:28:47.380 --> 03:28:53.860
Call-In User_1: Reason why goat puppet says about a writ is because he knows I've defended clients, and I actually prosecuted this many times.

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03:28:55.190 --> 03:29:09.930
Call-In User_1: I'm not gonna give you the citation. I'll just do it as a brown act violation in which Freddy, in his great heart, is going to screw you over. I've litigated many times. I've several times taken a bell tram before she got to court. They always settle

1766
03:29:10.040 --> 03:29:12.100
Call-In User_1: so, and they're going to blame you.

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That's what they do.

1768
03:29:13.590 --> 03:29:16.780
Call-In User_1: So Freddie should say. Are you required

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Call-In User_1: to have general public comment posted on the agenda 72 h beforehand.

1770
03:29:23.130 --> 03:29:24.730
Call-In User_1: Put him on the record.

1771
03:29:25.030 --> 03:29:42.350
Call-In User_1: I can't blame you because he he's terrible. I've sent an email about what a quorum is. I've given you points of authority and everything. I will litigate this. I like Attorney's seat. It's really nice, but it's not your fault? Asked Freddy.

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Call-In User_1: Does the public general comment. Happy, posted

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Call-In User_1: at the time of posting of the agenda. Very simple. Says it the code. Thank you. Thank you.

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Call-In User_1: Erica Moore.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

1776
03:30:03.270 --> 03:30:07.210
Erica Moore: I still

1777
03:30:07.280 --> 03:30:09.030
Erica Moore: I appreciate your time.

1778
03:30:09.630 --> 03:30:12.660
Daffodil Tyminski: That's it. You're coming in for me a little broken up, Erica.

1779
03:30:15.470 --> 03:30:19.110
Erica Moore: Oh, I actually wasn't going to make a comment, but

1780
03:30:19.240 --> 03:30:23.590
Erica Moore: I my hand was up. I didn't need for it to be. I apologize. Thanks for your time.

1781
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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thank you. Lisa Redmond. Go ahead.

1782
03:30:30.880 --> 03:30:45.070
Lisa Redmond: Yeah, I just want to give a special shout out to the special meeting that just concluded. I love the tone I loved as a stakeholder, and I feel probably the other commenters do, felt, really listened to.

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Lisa Redmond: It felt like true community. It felt like, if we had meetings like that all the time, people would want to be participatory more with the Venice Neighborhood Council. It just was really good energy, and I hope

1784
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Lisa Redmond: we can do that more in the future. I know i'm often seen as a troublemaker. But I just want what's best for the committee, and if we work together as a council with stakeholder involvement, I think we can accomplish so many great things for this community.

1785
03:31:13.550 --> 03:31:22.960
Lisa Redmond: So let's look at that. Let's all try and get along. Let's listen to stakeholders and not regard them as a problem to everybody's woes. Thank you.

1786
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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Lisa. And last we'll close public comment with this, I believe this is Yolanda, the number ending in 6 9 0.

1787
03:31:40.650 --> 03:31:41.640
Daffodil Tyminski: Yolanda.

1788
03:31:48.540 --> 03:31:51.690
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay? Well, I guess we'll just close public comment.

1789
03:31:51.950 --> 03:31:53.260
jim murez: Okay, Thank you.

1790
03:31:53.920 --> 03:31:58.350
jim murez: So that closes general public comment.

1791
03:31:58.500 --> 03:32:03.980
jim murez: Now let's move on to consent Items 13 through 15.

1792
03:32:04.260 --> 03:32:08.360
jim murez: 13 is support of

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bus line violation, Enforcement

1794
03:32:13.630 --> 03:32:23.540
jim murez: 14 is the interactive kios program. and 15 is the community assistant parking program.

1795
03:32:26.370 --> 03:32:29.720
jim murez: and that would take us through. Yes.

1796
03:32:30.040 --> 03:32:42.970
Daffodil Tyminski: I think I think 13 and 14 were already passed. Maybe we take those 2 together cause I we got an email from Rex in the theater.

1797
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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay?

1798
03:32:45.860 --> 03:32:49.210
jim murez: So the question is, is, does anybody want to take them off of consent?

1799
03:32:50.410 --> 03:32:53.540
Clark Brown: I like to take 15 off consent. Is that before us?

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jim murez: 15 is before us.

1801
03:32:56.900 --> 03:33:00.050
Clark Brown: I like to take that off consent. Why is that?

1802
03:33:01.530 --> 03:33:05.980
Clark Brown: I think the problem with it is is that it facilitates

1803
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Clark Brown: long time Use of our V's in residential areas. If If you look at the the first where, as clause, that's the purpose of it, and I think we ought to be discouraging overnight camping in Rvs and in residential areas. So I think what we should. We'll take adopted.

1804
03:33:25.010 --> 03:33:31.490
jim murez: We'll take it off color. You You got plenty of reason do we have any other?

1805
03:33:32.550 --> 03:33:42.540
jim murez: We do have some public hands raised, but I see no one on the board.

1806
03:33:42.570 --> 03:33:46.760
- ni developer: Yeah. I want to take 13 and 14 off. But

1807
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jim murez: okay, Why?

1808
03:33:49.420 --> 03:33:51.430
- ni developer: Why? Because

1809
03:33:51.520 --> 03:33:59.400
- ni developer: I think bus lines should be subject to court challenges. I don't think a surveillance state can be started.

1810
03:33:59.420 --> 03:34:09.720
- ni developer: If this happens we need to stop this immediately, or everybody is going to be given tickets with them. Okay? And what about what about 13?

1811
03:34:09.830 --> 03:34:13.820
jim murez: Or was that 13. I can't.

1812
03:34:13.930 --> 03:34:23.500
jim murez: You're talking 14. Excuse me, 14 being the 14 also. Why, why do you want to take 14? Because 14 is a waste of fucking money.

1813
03:34:23.540 --> 03:34:27.130
- ni developer: They're going to be vandalized by homeless criminals.

1814
03:34:27.200 --> 03:34:46.690
- ni developer: and we don't have that. Thank you. We we will take both of those items off. Let's move on to the agenda. Those items, you know, 1314, and 15 will go to the end of the age. 1414 is basically agreeing with, though, because 14 is not 4 kiosks. It's against kiosks.

1815
03:34:47.650 --> 03:34:50.820
Daffodil Tyminski: and 13 is already passed City Council. It's moot.

1816
03:34:52.380 --> 03:35:04.110
Daffodil Tyminski: So you think we should just take it off the agenda altogether to support something that's already been decided.

1817
03:35:04.280 --> 03:35:08.600
jim murez: Let me just ask. I have been a question. I haven't we just take something off the agenda. At this point

1818
03:35:12.090 --> 03:35:15.180
Daffodil Tyminski: we can make a motion to table it or to.

1819
03:35:15.270 --> 03:35:17.520
jim murez: I mean, we would have to do that later on.

1820
03:35:17.850 --> 03:35:22.880
robertthibodeau: It's going to take longer to do that. Then it's going to take to.

1821
03:35:23.560 --> 03:35:25.310
jim murez: I guess I've been tuned out.

1822
03:35:26.730 --> 03:35:35.470
jim murez: Well, we'll move it to the end of the meeting, and we'll table it at that point, because we can't do it now. But right now it's before us is is whether or not it

1823
03:35:35.500 --> 03:35:37.120
jim murez: is going to be on could set.

1824
03:35:37.390 --> 03:35:44.410
Daffodil Tyminski: So we've had some people raise their hands for public comment, and for those of you that did for these 3 things.

1825
03:35:44.760 --> 03:35:47.120
Daffodil Tyminski: You can make that comment when we take it up.

1826
03:35:47.570 --> 03:35:53.920
Daffodil Tyminski: Now we're on the land. Use the Kell on length. Item 19.

1827
03:35:55.300 --> 03:36:03.050
Michael Jensen: Well, if if Bushra is here, I would say, raise your hand, but I I mean honestly that this, like just

1828
03:36:03.670 --> 03:36:15.040
Michael Jensen: this meeting blew up because of a 2 h special meeting, and everything on the agenda just gets put. I mean, I I feel like that's so disrespectful to someone who has a project before us. But

1829
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jim murez: I don't in the future. I hope you can put the I think I think she left because it's okay. So do you want to postpone it to a later date?

1830
03:36:28.280 --> 03:36:36.340
Michael Jensen: Yes, and can this time you put it on the agenda automatically, or do I send another agenda request? No, no, we'll, we'll. We'll put it back on the agenda.

1831
03:36:36.590 --> 03:36:38.190
jim murez: Let's just

1832
03:36:40.350 --> 03:36:42.120
jim murez: but here.

1833
03:36:50.080 --> 03:37:03.870
Michael Jensen: and because of the the loop pack issues. I know that some of these are time sensitive. Maybe we want to even talk about having a special board meeting just for loop that items to get through it. A fourth special meeting this year already.

1834
03:37:04.840 --> 03:37:10.500
jim murez: It's possible, Michael, that has to do with whether or not we want to be responsible to the community. Yes.

1835
03:37:11.990 --> 03:37:22.260
jim murez: a resolution to implement we're on item 21. Now. resolution to implement vehicle oversize vehicle ordinance is parking and transportation.

1836
03:37:22.480 --> 03:37:27.570
jim murez: Robert. Do you want to read the motion portion of this or the whole? Whereas is there

1837
03:37:27.760 --> 03:37:31.100
robertthibodeau: sure this was

1838
03:37:31.610 --> 03:37:42.650
robertthibodeau: brought to us by mark of the Venice? What what did you call it? Stakeholders Association? Vsa: I think it is.

1839
03:37:43.610 --> 03:37:46.770
robertthibodeau: and it's whereas

1840
03:37:48.280 --> 03:37:59.790
robertthibodeau: do you want me to read it? The whole thing here? If I think it's been posted. If you only wanted to read the motion we can move forward from there.

1841
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robertthibodeau: which is

1842
03:38:01.970 --> 03:38:10.170
robertthibodeau: now. Therefore, be it resolved. The Venice Neighborhood Council calls upon Council Member Tracy Park to issue the

1843
03:38:10.180 --> 03:38:14.340
robertthibodeau: La Dot letters directing the installation

1844
03:38:14.500 --> 03:38:23.140
robertthibodeau: of the required signage to effectuate the prohibition of oversight. Excuse me oversize vehicles from parking

1845
03:38:23.310 --> 03:38:33.800
robertthibodeau: from 2 to 6 am. On all Venice streets, as defined by section one of ordinance. 1,81413, commercial and residential

1846
03:38:34.060 --> 03:38:41.730
robertthibodeau: that do not now have such signs to accomplish the underlying objective of the overall ordinance.

1847
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jim murez: I can, if if anybody wants it so I can explain. You wait, You're You're making the motion. We need a second.

1848
03:38:50.030 --> 03:38:52.510
Nico Ruderman: I'll second it. It was it was my motion as well.

1849
03:38:52.800 --> 03:38:54.460
jim murez: Thank you.

1850
03:38:55.760 --> 03:39:00.600
jim murez: And do we have any board question about the motion before we take public comment.

1851
03:39:01.620 --> 03:39:03.210
jim murez: All your hand this up.

1852
03:39:03.270 --> 03:39:07.690
Alley Bean: Oh, hi, hi, Robert! I would. It would actually love you to just explain what

1853
03:39:07.930 --> 03:39:14.740
Alley Bean: all of Ben is meant. That's the only thing. When I was reading the agenda, I wasn't sure does that mean that every single street. We'll have the signage.

1854
03:39:15.170 --> 03:39:18.750
robertthibodeau: I actually think. No. How does it work?

1855
03:39:19.270 --> 03:39:32.960
robertthibodeau: And so this this is a rehash of Nico. I'm: going to take the crack at this. Okay, Buddy. Yeah, go for it all you. So this is a rehash of something that was actually passed.

1856
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robertthibodeau: and the ordinance is published on. I think it's like a whatever it's under additional materials

1857
03:39:40.080 --> 03:39:44.900
robertthibodeau: on the on the Ptc. Page.

1858
03:39:45.140 --> 03:39:54.980
robertthibodeau: and it was passed by a Rosen doll about whatever it was, 10 plus years ago. So this is the existing law.

1859
03:39:55.510 --> 03:39:59.700
robertthibodeau: and the area defined was not all of Venice. It was

1860
03:39:59.860 --> 03:40:05.980
robertthibodeau: again loosely. I think it was what I don't think it includes the Strand. So I think it's from Washington

1861
03:40:06.270 --> 03:40:11.740
robertthibodeau: to the northern border at Santa Monica, and then to Lincoln. I think that's roughly

1862
03:40:11.870 --> 03:40:15.300
robertthibodeau: the area. I believe the map

1863
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robertthibodeau: i'm not sure the map was attached to it when we put the motion up there, but I could make that available marks past that around.

1864
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robertthibodeau: I can give you the streets, Robert, if you want.

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Daffodil Tyminski: if you got it in front of you. But I think I think i'm loosely right there it's it's west of Lincoln Boulevard, north of the Los Angeles County line between Lincoln Boulevard and Via Dolce north of Washington Boulevard between Via, Dolphin Ocean front walk east of Ocean Front Walk, and south of the city of Santa Monica.

1866
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Daffodil Tyminski: So it is pretty close a lot of Venice, but it's also largely west of Lincoln.

1867
03:40:55.920 --> 03:41:01.730
robertthibodeau: So this is Marks motion and Nicos

1868
03:41:01.920 --> 03:41:03.570
robertthibodeau: to

1869
03:41:05.800 --> 03:41:06.870
robertthibodeau: to get.

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robertthibodeau: I guess the point is that right now the process for getting Ovio signage

1871
03:41:13.680 --> 03:41:19.380
robertthibodeau: is to get 60 of the residents of a block

1872
03:41:21.440 --> 03:41:29.360
robertthibodeau: to sign off on a petition which at times can be difficult, because it's hard to get owners information sometimes.

1873
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robertthibodeau: and it's hard when you've got a apartment building that you don't have access to to get tenants signatures, or even access anything. or ask them. Yes or no. So this is Mark's point that

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robertthibodeau: that they shouldn't be asking for

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03:41:46.750 --> 03:41:50.970
robertthibodeau: the petitions with 60 on it, and

1876
03:41:51.170 --> 03:41:59.330
robertthibodeau: that signage should be available to everybody sort of upon request now.

1877
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robertthibodeau: And if i'm misquoting this Nico, you're welcome to jump in. That's the best I can do. But

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Nico Ruderman: yeah, sure, I mean, that's that's that's basically it. I mean, the idea is that

1879
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Nico Ruderman: this is an ordinance that's already passed these these signs where we're supposed to be

1880
03:42:16.800 --> 03:42:17.860
Nico Ruderman: posted.

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Nico Ruderman: I I I I I I think I've tell my head was this was passed in 2,011

1882
03:42:24.850 --> 03:42:29.680
Nico Ruderman: so. and and this this affects

1883
03:42:31.360 --> 03:42:44.950
Nico Ruderman: primarily that the the the coastal area because it it's the the coastal area, I I believe, has different requirements for for these signs than than outside of the coastal area.

1884
03:42:45.370 --> 03:42:56.840
Nico Ruderman: And this basically. We're we're putting this forwards. Venice. The coastal part of Venice is the only coastal part in the area that that does not have

1885
03:42:56.940 --> 03:43:10.620
Nico Ruderman: these requirements, and and it's it's it causes a lot of problems. I mean, if this isn't just about Rvs I mean, I know that's that's what people think this all about this. It's about our vs. It's about commercial trucks. It's about a lot of people who are using our

1886
03:43:11.090 --> 03:43:17.840
Nico Ruderman: community as as their parking lots, because we don't have the signs up in a lot of places.

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Nico Ruderman: and it's it. It basically it's it's to blankets the the entire area with these signs. So that's

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Nico Ruderman: we don't have problems with, you know. I mean, it's it's basically just whack them. Also, you know, like around me. I have. You know, you halls and all kinds of commercial trucks that are parked around me on certain blocks, because they don't have these signs.

1889
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Nico Ruderman: so it just creates a problem where you know, 1 one block gets assigned and just pushes the problem onto another block.

1890
03:43:47.110 --> 03:43:52.380
Nico Ruderman: So that's that's it. It in in a nutshell. I mean it's a lot more than that.

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jim murez: Thank you, Nico. That so, Ali, I I assume you can put your hand down, Mike. You had a question about the motion, and then we're going to take public comment.

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Mike Bravo: I'm. Assuming the bulk of these.

1893
03:44:05.670 --> 03:44:14.840
Mike Bravo: the issue that's addressing is our our base for the most part. But is there any spot in Venice in the coastal zone that has accommodations for Rvs

1894
03:44:16.470 --> 03:44:20.830
Mike Bravo: one, and then forgot my other question. But that's it.

1895
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jim murez: Okay, Thank you.

1896
03:44:22.210 --> 03:44:35.160
Nico Ruderman: I I I I can answer that real quickly. I mean it, Mike. You know I I I understand You're saying, you know the the the the problem is, there is nowhere else for for Rvs to go. And so my understanding is that

1897
03:44:35.290 --> 03:44:51.860
Nico Ruderman: you know a lot of times this won't be enforced. If if people are living in in their in their Rvs as of now. I mean it can't be enforced until there's somewhere to send them, you know, on a side now separately. I'm. I'm. I'm. Trying to separately

1898
03:44:51.860 --> 03:44:56.920
Nico Ruderman: put something forage to create safe parking within the assembly.

1899
03:44:57.000 --> 03:45:04.110
jim murez: Let me let me just add, answer, Mike, in a different way. The State of California

1900
03:45:04.200 --> 03:45:20.800
jim murez: has multiple sites, including Sycamore Park, which is about 30 miles north of Venice and Dockweiler Beach, which is about 3 miles south of Venice. So there are places for Rvs to park in the coastal zone within the city of Los Angeles.

1901
03:45:21.090 --> 03:45:25.820
jim murez: or they excuse me. Within the county of Los Angeles. The Sycamore Park is a little farther north.

1902
03:45:25.930 --> 03:45:36.530
jim murez: but but there are places we just don't have it in the residential neighborhood of that at this time. So let's let's go back to

1903
03:45:37.140 --> 03:45:41.780
Daffodil Tyminski: public comment. Now, Daffodil, can you help with public comment.

1904
03:45:46.330 --> 03:45:48.250
Daffodil Tyminski: Shawn or Brian? Go ahead.

1905
03:45:49.360 --> 03:45:56.080
Sean Obrien: Oh, yeah, support the motion. Thank you, Nico. Thank you. Mark Raebec. It's evident you just cross.

1906
03:45:56.130 --> 03:45:58.080
Sean Obrien: What is it? Oh.

1907
03:45:58.470 --> 03:46:04.670
Sean Obrien: just north of marine, our Navy Street! You enter Santa Monica Boom giant signs.

1908
03:46:04.730 --> 03:46:08.330
Sean Obrien: These are these: these commercial vehicles

1909
03:46:08.380 --> 03:46:11.080
Sean Obrien: are there for weeks, months, years.

1910
03:46:11.330 --> 03:46:17.920
Sean Obrien: taking up taking away public access from the public to come and and hang out at the beach.

1911
03:46:17.970 --> 03:46:23.860
Sean Obrien: The Rvs are putting waste into our storm drains, so please support this. Thank you.

1912
03:46:30.540 --> 03:46:34.130
Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry about that. Thank you, Shawn. Pat Raphael, Go ahead.

1913
03:46:41.080 --> 03:46:42.190
PatRaphael: Yes, Hi.

1914
03:46:43.650 --> 03:46:47.340
PatRaphael: I sat through here basically going.

1915
03:46:48.790 --> 03:47:01.680
PatRaphael: waiting through everything in the meeting because I was the one who submitted the homeless committees Item Number 15, which was supposed to, I suppose, get

1916
03:47:02.840 --> 03:47:05.900
PatRaphael: discuss, and then voted upon today.

1917
03:47:06.020 --> 03:47:09.810
PatRaphael: Right? So it seems like this was just kind of

1918
03:47:09.920 --> 03:47:16.190
PatRaphael: summarily brushed off. No, Pat, let me interrupt you. That item was pulled off of consent.

1919
03:47:16.390 --> 03:47:25.770
jim murez: That means that it goes to the end of the agenda, where we will hear it. We didn't push it off, it will still be heard.

1920
03:47:25.770 --> 03:47:37.200
jim murez: I hope you can wait that long. Originally the intention was because it was passed unanimously by your committee that it should have just been approved, and there would have been no further discussion.

1921
03:47:37.640 --> 03:47:55.200
jim murez: But somebody in the audience decided that it needed to be pulled off, and legally. We have to give them that right to do so and open it up for discussion, so I hope you can stick around, and we'll discuss it at the end of the meeting that you're more than welcome to make comment on this item

1922
03:47:55.200 --> 03:48:04.960
jim murez: which has to do, and i'll put a little bit of time back on the clock for you, which has to do with the overnight parking signage going up in Venice. Okay.

1923
03:48:05.700 --> 03:48:08.000
PatRaphael: all right, Thank you. So

1924
03:48:08.080 --> 03:48:13.590
PatRaphael: So just to kind of connect the 2 issues that we're dealing with here.

1925
03:48:13.800 --> 03:48:15.510
PatRaphael: The

1926
03:48:15.730 --> 03:48:19.350
PatRaphael: Oh, parking is a matter of access

1927
03:48:19.500 --> 03:48:24.300
PatRaphael: right? And then some people who part in their vehicles

1928
03:48:24.430 --> 03:48:33.000
PatRaphael: live in the who who who park here in Venice live in their vehicles. So basically what i'm, seeing that we should be stressing here

1929
03:48:33.130 --> 03:48:37.680
PatRaphael: is that not everybody has

1930
03:48:37.770 --> 03:48:40.610
PatRaphael: the same. Oh, I didn't get a chance to

1931
03:48:41.130 --> 03:48:47.470
PatRaphael: finish your sentence. Go ahead. Well, I was stressing that

1932
03:48:47.640 --> 03:48:52.460
PatRaphael: not everybody has the luxury of access to the beach without

1933
03:48:53.380 --> 03:49:02.000
PatRaphael: housing, and able to do it in any other way other than living in their vehicles. So, as a matter of access.

1934
03:49:02.690 --> 03:49:08.360
PatRaphael: This is what i'm speaking about here, I'm saying, you can't have access to the beach if you can

1935
03:49:08.450 --> 03:49:15.600
PatRaphael: summarily. Just remove a whole swath of people from being able to access the beach because some of them are a problem.

1936
03:49:15.740 --> 03:49:21.180
jim murez: I They deal with the problems. The legal behavior is still illegal.

1937
03:49:21.820 --> 03:49:25.330
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Kalani W.

1938
03:49:25.740 --> 03:49:28.120
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead. Hmm.

1939
03:49:28.270 --> 03:49:38.150
Kalani W: Everyone has access to the beach. We cannot all afford to live where we want to live. Therefore choices have to be made

1940
03:49:38.860 --> 03:49:49.690
Kalani W: in these times, where we are trying on a national level to show that no one is above the law. We need to start enforcing the law for all.

1941
03:49:49.870 --> 03:50:08.920
Kalani W: Many of these Rvs have expired tags. If I drove around in my car with an expired tag, they would give me a ticket, but an an Rv. Can, can go all over the place with expired tags and park, and ignore laws when I can't enough Already

1942
03:50:09.240 --> 03:50:26.620
Kalani W: you live where you can afford to live. We cannot all afford to live at the beach When I first moved here from Hawaii I couldn't afford to live at the beach. I grew up looking at the beach all my life, but I had to live in Hawthorn where I could afford it.

1943
03:50:26.810 --> 03:50:31.680
Kalani W: and I worked my way up so I could move closer to the beach.

1944
03:50:32.010 --> 03:50:42.160
Kalani W: Choices have to be made, and let's not forget. On December the 20 fifth, 2,020, an Rv. Was used to explode

1945
03:50:42.300 --> 03:50:46.370
Kalani W: as a terrorist bomb in downtown. Nashville.

1946
03:50:46.440 --> 03:50:50.380
Kalani W: We have a lot of your over your time.

1947
03:50:50.430 --> 03:50:52.150
Kalani W: Thank you.

1948
03:50:52.210 --> 03:50:55.290
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. Lisa Redmond. Go ahead.

1949
03:50:57.960 --> 03:51:00.250
Lisa Redmond: Yeah, hi! Good evening.

1950
03:51:00.340 --> 03:51:06.720
Lisa Redmond: So i'm going to disagree with what Nico said that they can't make people move because their their homes.

1951
03:51:06.800 --> 03:51:12.590
Lisa Redmond: But that's exactly what you're asking in your letter to the Council Office to do is to

1952
03:51:12.790 --> 03:51:19.020
Lisa Redmond: put up signs that will make people move. These are people that are in homes, and

1953
03:51:19.110 --> 03:51:21.420
Lisa Redmond: I know that people don't want the

1954
03:51:21.730 --> 03:51:35.540
Lisa Redmond: rb's there, but we also have to look that everybody wants people housed. and to go to Dockweiler Beach, or any other county facility is 65 to $75 a day.

1955
03:51:35.590 --> 03:51:38.130
Lisa Redmond: which is cost prohibitive to park. There

1956
03:51:38.160 --> 03:51:45.730
Lisa Redmond: I would ask that you put an amendment at the very least, please, into this motion that asks

1957
03:51:45.780 --> 03:51:49.110
Lisa Redmond: the outreach. Be done like 41 18,

1958
03:51:49.260 --> 03:51:57.370
Lisa Redmond: to get people housed to work harder at an Rv. Lot for unhouse people like out of the airport or other public spaces.

1959
03:51:57.440 --> 03:52:04.000
Lisa Redmond: It can be done. We have to work and recognize the humanity in taking care of people. Thank you.

1960
03:52:05.190 --> 03:52:08.520
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Lisa Developer, Go ahead.

1961
03:52:10.500 --> 03:52:19.200
- ni developer: Yeah. So i'll bring my homeless friend Billy here to talk about this. Thank you very much. Oh, i'm against this.

1962
03:52:19.580 --> 03:52:22.260
- ni developer: No, I I like to live free.

1963
03:52:22.580 --> 03:52:33.040
- ni developer: I can park all night and day. I don't have to pay any rent, or atmos or hos. and I get the cash like Gr.

1964
03:52:33.130 --> 03:52:39.300
- ni developer: and I could take all the drugs I want to in the comfort of my own mobile home.

1965
03:52:39.620 --> 03:52:50.070
- ni developer: But if you're going to make me move from 2 to 6. My Rv. Won't start. I need to jump. and it's hard to find the toe track at 2 am.

1966
03:52:50.200 --> 03:52:57.030
- ni developer: Do you really want me and my friends not to be blocking all of your 3.

1967
03:52:57.490 --> 03:53:08.110
- ni developer: We're a part of the fabric of Venice. We get the double our way. We get to sit around all day. Come on, guys.

1968
03:53:08.350 --> 03:53:11.780
- ni developer: share the beach with that. There you go.

1969
03:53:14.450 --> 03:53:16.980
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. Call on, user

1970
03:53:18.000 --> 03:53:18.830
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

1971
03:53:21.250 --> 03:53:24.880
Call-In User_1: I'm in support, and it's 2 full.

1972
03:53:25.100 --> 03:53:29.510
First of all, the reason why these things are coming to play is not because of public pressure.

1973
03:53:29.710 --> 03:53:36.030
Call-In User_1: There was a core appeal decision which i'm not going to site. It's under the California Fire code.

1974
03:53:36.290 --> 03:53:45.460
Call-In User_1: That's where some of the stuff is coming from under the Fire code. Second issue is, I understand, the young lady. She's passionate, we should do something, but

1975
03:53:46.350 --> 03:53:54.220
Call-In User_1: how to do it, or we should outreach. How do you want to do the outreach? What's the fiscal study. How is it going to be paid for? How is the metrics going to happen?

1976
03:53:54.710 --> 03:54:06.180
Call-In User_1: The kids can't spend money. you know, and that's a problem. So a lot of this stuff is because of the California fire code and nothing else. So it's a legal issue, not a moral issue. Thank you.

1977
03:54:08.510 --> 03:54:09.810
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. Caller

1978
03:54:09.870 --> 03:54:12.190
Daffodil Tyminski: Jill Crosby. Go ahead.

1979
03:54:13.800 --> 03:54:26.020
Jill Crosby: Hi, thanks, Nico. I'm really grateful for this. It's a lot of work you guys put into it in terms of the person who called? Who said that this is limiting to public access. People can access the beach

1980
03:54:26.060 --> 03:54:44.000
Jill Crosby: all day long. It's just between 2 and 6 am. That you're not to do overnight parking, so that doesn't apply Anyone's welcome to the beach, but particularly because we are such a postage stamped size. We really need to look at the relationship between Rv's

1981
03:54:44.000 --> 03:54:58.330
Jill Crosby: residential commercial access. I don't understand why we're not enforcing 8502, and ovo as just a flat out. This is a vehicular situation in terms of

1982
03:54:58.440 --> 03:55:12.460
Jill Crosby: these are home. These are houses that can actually be moved anywhere into safe zones which don't apply to what we are talking about. Everyone around us has this as a safety net. We should be entitled to the same

1983
03:55:12.900 --> 03:55:23.290
Jill Crosby: ability to, you know, protect our streets in terms of. you know, having access for commercial zones and residential

1984
03:55:23.380 --> 03:55:33.220
Jill Crosby: primarily, especially in last point, is, if we're going to monitor bike lanes and give people tickets there. I don't understand how we're not giving our V's tickets for dumping and waste.

1985
03:55:33.740 --> 03:55:34.660
jim murez: Thank you.

1986
03:55:34.920 --> 03:55:35.840
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

1987
03:55:36.190 --> 03:55:38.360
Daffodil Tyminski: How are you going? Go ahead?

1988
03:55:41.220 --> 03:55:52.280
Helen Fallon: Yeah. I listen carefully to the explanations of this, and I think what I got out of it is that there is currently a way to get an obo signs on your block.

1989
03:55:52.480 --> 03:56:01.000
Helen Fallon: The contention is that it's extremely difficult. I don't know whether that's true or not. You depend on where you live, but you can get ovo

1990
03:56:02.920 --> 03:56:13.380
Helen Fallon: so. But the real concern, I think, in Venice is that. you know, addressing the issue of people living in R. These but this isn't going to address that from what was presented. So

1991
03:56:13.750 --> 03:56:21.350
Helen Fallon: are we all just gonna all end up with streets still with a lot of just meeting with signs and signage where there's really no Enforcement.

1992
03:56:21.470 --> 03:56:22.420
Helen Fallon: I would

1993
03:56:22.440 --> 03:56:30.840
Helen Fallon: really urge you to put this off for a couple of months. Seems like Tracy Parks office is talking about coming up with some solutions for Rvs and

1994
03:56:30.880 --> 03:56:36.770
Helen Fallon: moving them off the streets. Let's see where that goes rather than start putting up signage. We were going to be stuck with forever.

1995
03:56:37.920 --> 03:56:44.710
Helen Fallon: Just wait a little bit and see what how it see what's happening with. You know her proposals, and if we like them, and then step up and say.

1996
03:56:44.910 --> 03:56:46.830
Helen Fallon: we want more signs. Thank you.

1997
03:56:47.160 --> 03:56:48.230
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks, Allen

1998
03:56:49.030 --> 03:56:52.670
Daffodil Tyminski: caller, and the number ending 6 9 0.

1999
03:56:52.960 --> 03:56:54.570
Daffodil Tyminski: I think this is Yolanda.

2000
03:56:56.080 --> 03:56:58.010
1310****690: Hi! This is Yolanda

2001
03:56:58.110 --> 03:57:00.140
I'm. In favor of the motion.

2002
03:57:00.200 --> 03:57:02.300
1310****690: And what's happening now is that

2003
03:57:02.320 --> 03:57:13.350
even though they come, they can't park between at certain hours. What's happening now is that they can park, and then they stay there, and they start going flat on their tires.

2004
03:57:13.440 --> 03:57:16.460
1310****690: So it's just starting to get out of control again.

2005
03:57:16.480 --> 03:57:35.470
1310****690: You go back over here, where Oakwood and Venice west of Lincoln is starting to happen all of a sudden. Less than a week. We've already got 4 Rv. Parked on the north side and look at the mess that they have. Not only that they're using it for business.

2006
03:57:36.540 --> 03:57:41.200
1310****690: Either. They're fixing. They have bikes, or they're selling their drugs.

2007
03:57:41.390 --> 03:57:49.710
1310****690: I live just a block away, and I can see that happening. So i'm in favor of the motion, and I hope they start doing something quick and fast.

2008
03:57:49.750 --> 03:57:51.440
but I also believe

2009
03:57:51.580 --> 03:58:02.610
1310****690: 2, that we need to find a place for them. But some of them don't want it. They don't want it. They like the way they are doing things and living. Thank you.

2010
03:58:03.480 --> 03:58:10.080
Daffodil Tyminski: thank you, Alana. And last, but not least, some will close public comment after this one Steve Bradbury.

2011
03:58:10.310 --> 03:58:11.440
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

2012
03:58:13.260 --> 03:58:29.090
Steve Bradbury: Thank you, Daffodil. I just want to start out by acknowledging Robert and and Nico and Mark for bringing this bringing this motion. It's a shame that we had to have a motion to enforce a law that already exists, and I do agree with Lisa

2013
03:58:29.090 --> 03:58:47.440
Steve Bradbury: that we can be compassion in finding a location or locations for these, but is speaking for people who live on the Marina Peninsula and on the silver strand. There's a real lot of concern that when people when when Rvs start getting moved from other areas, they're just going to show up here.

2014
03:58:47.440 --> 03:59:01.600
Steve Bradbury: So there needs to be another location for them to go. But there's no reason, with all the respect to Helen, to wait to get the signage. Everything in the city takes so long. Move forward, get the signage

2015
03:59:01.690 --> 03:59:09.780
Steve Bradbury: work with Tracy Park. All can happen simultaneously but absolutely definitely support this this vote. Thank you.

2016
03:59:11.310 --> 03:59:14.470
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Jim. With that we'll close public comment.

2017
03:59:14.980 --> 03:59:19.460
jim murez: Okay. any more board comment

2018
03:59:23.380 --> 03:59:24.610
jim murez: Go ahead.

2019
03:59:26.230 --> 03:59:33.650
Daffodil Tyminski: I just wanted to say I was on the Council when we passed this originally back in 2,010. I think it got signed in November of 2,010,

2020
03:59:33.770 --> 03:59:38.940
Daffodil Tyminski: and back. Then. This was specifically done for the 11.

2021
03:59:38.980 --> 03:59:42.290
Daffodil Tyminski: Because of this unique position we were in back then

2022
03:59:42.340 --> 03:59:55.640
Daffodil Tyminski: that Santa Monica was regulating this. Everyone was regulating around us, and the fear was that it was pushing our ves into Venice. I feel like we've now lived to the manifestation of what happened when this ordinance is not enforced.

2023
03:59:55.750 --> 03:59:57.840
Daffodil Tyminski: and we have to enforce it.

2024
03:59:58.010 --> 04:00:08.490
Daffodil Tyminski: Anybody that lives near an Rv. Understands what you know. A difficult situation. This poses for the community, for kids, for elderly people trying to walk by.

2025
04:00:08.680 --> 04:00:13.020
Daffodil Tyminski: So I really strongly encourage that people vote for this.

2026
04:00:13.920 --> 04:00:22.360
Alley Bean: Thank you. I just had a question for Nico or I. I don't I wasn't sure who the maker of the motion was.

2027
04:00:22.490 --> 04:00:37.370
Alley Bean: but or i'm sorry that I wasn't at the meeting. When you guys pass this, have you had contact with Tracy Park's office about this, and is she on board, and, you know, interested in coming up with a solution of

2028
04:00:37.590 --> 04:00:39.720
Alley Bean: I I I think it was.

2029
04:00:39.880 --> 04:00:57.960
Alley Bean: I can't think of Bruce that just spoke from the Marina. I understand that. Of course people would worry that it's gonna push. You know it's just gonna be a Whack Mall game, and then they'll go to the you know East Venice, or wherever this isn't the signage isn't, so is she on board to like finding a good like.

2030
04:00:57.990 --> 04:01:05.930
Alley Bean: I know Doc Waller cost 70 bucks a night. But there's that whole huge space behind it that could be an Rb. Parking. Has anybody spoken with her

2031
04:01:06.870 --> 04:01:09.770
Alley Bean: for office? That was my just my only question.

2032
04:01:10.260 --> 04:01:12.420
Nico Ruderman: Robert. That's a question for you.

2033
04:01:12.600 --> 04:01:17.940
robertthibodeau: I I haven't actually a question for Nico. I'm going to defer. Okay, let me go on that one.

2034
04:01:18.510 --> 04:01:23.270
Nico Ruderman: Yeah, I haven't spoken with her directly about this. I I did reach out to Gabby the whole time

2035
04:01:23.370 --> 04:01:24.270
We got a phone call back.

2036
04:01:26.300 --> 04:01:28.870
Nico Ruderman: but I You know I I I don't.

2037
04:01:29.910 --> 04:01:33.580
Nico Ruderman: I've I've received this question before, and you know my my opinion of it is.

2038
04:01:33.600 --> 04:01:42.000
Alley Bean: you're a little bit muted. I'm sorry i'll go Get a little closer. My phone, my my air pods died. I apologize.

2039
04:01:42.090 --> 04:01:43.540
Nico Ruderman: You, You know I I

2040
04:01:46.630 --> 04:01:57.460
Nico Ruderman: I I I guess my opinion is is this is that I I I feel that you know we put this forward because we feel like this is an important thing for the community, and

2041
04:01:58.150 --> 04:01:59.830
you know. Hopefully.

2042
04:01:59.920 --> 04:02:12.700
Nico Ruderman: our Council member will listen to it. You know I I I know a lot of people do that, but I don't necessarily believe in speaking with them ahead of time. I mean, this is our recommendation, you know I make this recommendation. Whether or not she supports it.

2043
04:02:14.510 --> 04:02:20.330
Alley Bean: That's that's number one number 2. I I have actually tried to reach out, and I never got a phone call back. So

2044
04:02:21.830 --> 04:02:24.340
jim murez: okay, so did you have your hand up.

2045
04:02:24.470 --> 04:02:43.750
Soledad Ursua: Hey, everyone. So I had contacted. You know Tracy's office. I'm working with Gabriella. What we have is we have a problem where I live, where we have no signage up. And so there's these commercial vans that park, and these are, you know, Mercedes Brands sprinter vans. So these are $80,000 vehicles.

2046
04:02:43.750 --> 04:02:54.990
Soledad Ursua: the owner just parks there, because there's really no signage, and you know he moves it every week. So there's people who are definitely taking advantage of Venice because we're not enforcing any of our laws.

2047
04:02:54.990 --> 04:03:10.900
Soledad Ursua: And so, you know, I I am aware of the process where basically you have to go and knock door to door. You have to try to meet the owners. You have to get 60 of the block signatures, and so my street is a it's a very narrow one off Street i'm. In between Main and Pacific.

2048
04:03:10.900 --> 04:03:24.260
Soledad Ursua: and so essentially, everyone in Venice is going to have to do that. Go walking door to door, try to, especially if you live on a small block. So it is. It is a real pain, and I think that for the New York Council this is something that we could pass to really

2049
04:03:24.260 --> 04:03:38.470
Soledad Ursua: help other people. We could do this to help make people's lives easier, so that every single person doesn't have to organize their block, and you know, allocate hours of their week trying to get signatures. So I think this is a really good thing that we could do for Venice as the V. And C.

2050
04:03:39.480 --> 04:03:48.630
jim murez: Thank you. So again I will just make one last comment, and then let's take a vote. I I there was a commercial vehicle that was parked on Main Street

2051
04:03:48.700 --> 04:04:05.040
jim murez: for the past 3 months, and lapd didn't want to do anything because they didn't want to do anything, because they believe that it was somebody camping it, and although there was nobody camping in it, they have the attitude at this point that

2052
04:04:05.410 --> 04:04:25.290
jim murez: you know anything that looks like it might be a a camper. We don't want to touch it. Well, it turned out that finally, when Lapd went, looked at it and realized that it was out of State plates. It had been out of registration, a matter of fact, there was no registration on it whatsoever, because the out of date plates didn't have a tag that said what year?

2053
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jim murez: They finally decided to mark the tires, and after they marked the tires, lo and behold, the owner came out the next day, drove the car. He had to jump started, but he drove the car away was actually not a car or truck.

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jim murez: so I I think, having these signs would be a a a good thing to start enforcing. And this this truck i'm talking about happened to be parked underneath one of those signs. But the city is not doing anything about it.

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jim murez: Having said that Solid had your hands still up. If you could lower, if let's take a vote.

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jim murez: I'm gonna vote. Yes.

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Daffodil Tyminski: the Abidel have you both?

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jim murez: If everybody unmute, we can get through this quickly. J: how do you vote? Yes, thank you, Vicki Bruno. Yes, Sima.

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jim murez: Yeah, Thank you. Nico

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jim murez: Nico.

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jim murez: We lost them. I'll come back. Okay, No, I did not.

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jim murez: So I did. Thank you.

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jim murez: Jim. Rob.

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Jim Robb: Yeah.

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jim murez: Was that a? Yes, Jim.

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Jim Robb: Yes, thank you.

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jim murez: Jason.

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Jason Sugars: Yes, thank you, Allie.

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Alley Bean: Yes.

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Chie: Kai. Yes.

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jim murez: Mike

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Mike Bravo: No.

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Soledad Ursua: Yes.

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CJ Cole: Cj.

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robertthibodeau: Robert. Yes.

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Clark Brown: Clark. Yes.

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Michael Jensen: yes.

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jim murez: Patrick.

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Patrick McKinley: Yes.

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jim murez: motion carries 17 1 0

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jim murez: ocean front walk. Jim, do you want to read the motion? This is la 2820, 28 la olympic skate venue

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Jim Robb: going to read the motion. You don't need to read all the this reason, Motion. Thank you. Therefore the Board of officers moves to send Leather a letter to Mayor Bass

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Jim Robb: Councilwoman Park. the AD. Hoc committee on the 2,028 olympics and paralympic games. requesting that la 28 skateboard venue be located

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Jim Robb: in venice and furthermore request that these individuals make a formal request to the La 28 Olympic organized committee.

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Jim Robb: and you'll be the maker of the motion. Do I have a second.

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Alley Bean: I second.

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Alley Bean: Who is that?

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jim murez: Thank you, Ali.

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jim murez: Anybody on the board have any questions, Michelle? I see your hand is up.

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Michael Jensen: We're going to take public comment. Just a question about. Is there anything unclear about? The motion is skateboarding a permanent sport in the Olympics? It is now.

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jim murez: It was the first time. The first time was in Tokyo. The second time will be in Paris, and Venice will be the third time.

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jim murez: and well it's pro it's provisionally. Pro. That was my only question. Yeah, okay.

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Patrick McKinley: Patrick, you have a question about the motion.

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Jim Robb: Well, we've got, you know. This is just to put it into the works as far as transport. It's not going to be. It's not going to be at the Skate Park that we have.

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Jim Robb: If you watched it, they have 40 feet high ski. It's going to be I I I've seen it fully aware of I just. I just mean if we're going to put in motion this, and really fight for this to come to Venice, which I think we should do, then we should also be fighting for mass transit systems to be approved to support this.

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jim murez: So the the motion talks about the roots that we have. We do have the metro bus. There's 2 lines of the Metro bus. There's also 2 lines of the blue bus. There's one line of the green bus.

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jim murez: and we have a buck bus, a bike route that is goes all the way north south from 22 miles worth.

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jim murez: We can certainly expand it, and i'm sure that the olympic committee will want to expand it

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jim murez: for the games specifically, which will bring the athletes and the spectators in and out of the community.

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jim murez: It it we're not addressing that. We're just saying we want them to consider it, and that's how we're trying to go forward with this.

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jim murez: Does that make sense for you? It it does. I just don't like the the idea that we're saying it's ample mass transportation, as if we're already self

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Patrick McKinley: self certified over here to allow this to take place in Venice when clearly we're not. And I would argue that those take the mass transportation system in Venice are forced to, and not by convenience.

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jim murez: Okay. But we're not. It's not part of the motion. The motion is

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jim murez: It's part of the where, as is, you know. What can I say?

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jim murez: Daffodil.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yeah. Raises. Yeah, just raise this for me. Did we have parking and transportation way in on this?

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jim murez: This is not a this is not a parking and transportation issue.

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jim murez: Thank you for asking the question.

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jim murez: Okay, let's go to public comment that we'll come back to committee discussion. We can get into some more of these details that the committee is asking about how to address it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Shauna Brian, Go ahead.

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Sean Obrien: Please support the motion.

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Sean Obrien: You gotta. You all gotta remember skateboarding was invented in Venice. It would be a travesty to hold the Olympics the first time skateboarding will be allowed in the Olympics in Los Angeles, and not have it in Venice. I'm. Sick and tired of here and all these nimbies

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Sean Obrien: saying, oh, what about traffic? What about parking? It's only a few days. you know. Please please like. do everything you can to bring this venue

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Sean Obrien: to Venice. Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. Developer. Go ahead.

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- ni developer: Yes, we were gonna have this over in the support of a basin.

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- ni developer: Well. Nouri Martinez got into a little bit of a problem. and she's not going to be available.

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- ni developer: So now this will be have to be done fairly well. It

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- ni developer: Yes, that's right. It'll have to be on Venice where it always belonged.

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CJ Cole: But remember only because of an illegal recording. James.

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- ni developer: do you have this motion? It would have been a brand new skate park

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- ni developer: over off the 405 at Burbank, and the support of the base in the valley.

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- ni developer: Isn't it wonderful how sometimes somebody does something so fucking sneaky like that

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- ni developer: and get for that 2 Council members?

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- ni developer: Yes, we need to get rid of our Council members.

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- ni developer: Well, what about Tracy Park? No, we're gonna keep her. I like her attitude.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Julie Bean. Go ahead.

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Julie Bean: Sorry. Hi! I I think this is amazing. I mean the smile on my face, just hearing it.

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Julie Bean: It just would do so much for our community. And I agree with Shawn and Jim Rob.

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Julie Bean: Thank you. It's awesome.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Jill Crosby. Go ahead.

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Jill Crosby: Hi! I just I I, too agree. I think it put a smile on my face. I love hearing about it, but

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Jill Crosby: I don't inextricably connect it with with Nicos, I mean. I think they're kind of tethered in the same way as sort of like we have to start controlling the parking in Venice, because we do call people to our beach. We are very special.

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Jill Crosby: and I think that that requires special consideration for those of us who live here so that everyone can come be here, and then they can go home, and we can actually have our homes here too. But I agree I think we should be featured in the in the Olympics with Venice Beach skating. I I I totally agree with that.

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Jill Crosby: But again I can't really separate. I mean half the Rvs in my area are not from California. So I think that we need to kind of hold hands with lots of things that we're motioning tonight. Thanks.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

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CJ Cole: Colony W. Go ahead.

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CJ Cole: Hmm.

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Kalani W: I do not believe the Olympics are good idea for Los Angeles, but that's another gift that Ambassador Garcetti has has burdened us with. That being said, Los Angeles received 40 times more visitors than

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Kalani W: my home State of Hawaii with for over 40 million tourists already visiting Los Angeles.

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Kalani W: So that being said, we did not need the Olympics, but because it's already done.

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Kalani W: I believe that Venice would provide a great backdrop to the skating competition, and we have parking all up and down the coast.

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Kalani W: Parking will not just be limited to Venice. You can park in Santa Monica. You can park in Marina Dares, and maybe walk a few blocks, lose a few pounds, so that you can view an Olympic event. I walked blocks the last time I went to an Olympic event, when when the Olympics were held in it

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Kalani W: in Los Angeles, so I don't think that will be an issue. Thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Robin Meres. Go ahead.

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Robin Murez: So I, too, think this is fabulous, and

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Robin Murez: colonies right that we, you know accommodations can be made for parking as needed, and I would also go one step farther, even though i'm related to this person. I would like to recommend that Jim, yours be suggested as a

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Robin Murez: representative to Tracy Parks Olympic Planning Committee. He has a daughter who has been in 2 Olympics, and maybe a third one coming up, and he knows a lot about

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Robin Murez: infrastructure and Venice. And again, that has nothing to do with my relationship with him, and there is no profit in it. So I just want you to know that would be a really wise gesture for Venice. And please

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Robin Murez: make that happen.

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Jim Robb: Okay, thanks, Robin.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Robin Lisa Edmond. Go ahead.

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Lisa Redmond: Yeah. I'm going to be the party pooper here. I'm against the Olympics period because they do accelerate leasing of fictions inequality exploitation and erosion of democracy in every host city.

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Lisa Redmond: But, as colony said, we're stuck with it. I think we need to be very careful what we wish for here in Venice.

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Lisa Redmond: Venice Ground 0 for loss of R. So units and overtaking of vacation rentals.

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Lisa Redmond: And we're by having the Olympics here. We're just saying yeah, all that's okay. And it's not okay. And

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Lisa Redmond: the minimum we would do to have a event. Here is they would create like a makeshift stadium of at least 8,000 or 8,000 people.

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Lisa Redmond: and that'll take like 2 months at least to build up on the beach. Yeah, it might come down in 3 days, once it's over. But that's taking away from the beach and access to the beach for more than a couple of months, and we are overstating parking. We are overstating what we can do with infrastructure and bus routes and transportation.

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Lisa Redmond: We're going to get so much because it is we don't need a venue here. Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

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Call-In User_1: Well, according to this motion, you need to have Bass and someone, and Park to request. Why are you not saying the letter directly? Also to the L. A. 28 Olympic Orientation Committee

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didn't say that here you have to use someone to do it for you.

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Call-In User_1: Also, I 5 little distressing that there's no fiscal study or potential design study to see what the outcome is going to be, what the impression of the area. But I forgot your bunch of liberal lunatics that hate people that just look at headlines rather than the details.

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So failure is profit for you. Some of you people

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Call-In User_1: so Evidently you don't know me then, brother.

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Call-In User_1: Oh, fuck! You chip just a fuck up! Interrupt me, you asshole.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Hey, Erica Moore, Go ahead.

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Clark Brown: Well, that's a tough act to follow. My goodness. Okay, so

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Erica Moore: basically I just want to say, I'm in favor of this.

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Erica Moore: and I have a cousin who's also an Olympic athlete. But he's a winter Olympic athlete, but

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Erica Moore: I used to go to the Summer X games that had skateboarding every year.

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Erica Moore: and it was downtown, and I always wondered. Why are we doing this in Venice? So I think it's amazing that this could be in Venice. Yes, it's gonna probably cause some problems for us as people that live here. And also I have a business here.

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Erica Moore: and it's going to be difficult with extra traffic and things like that. But I think there's ways that can be mitigated. There can be shuttles brought in

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Erica Moore: There's different ways that we can address this if it's done properly. Will that happen? I don't know.

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Erica Moore: but I think that if we all go forward and we try to make this work, I think it's a way to highlight our city in a way that makes sense, and that is in line with our city because we are famous for skateboarding. Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks a lot, Erica, and last, but not least with it's Christopher Lee, and with Christopher we'll close public comment. Go ahead, Chris. Oh. we just lost Chris. Really, do you not want to make you do. Okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead, Christopher.

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Christopher Lee: Sorry I load my hand before you unmute me. So I love the sentiment of this. This is something that would bring

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Christopher Lee: a cultural richness to Venice, and the motion, as written is simply requesting that we recommend Venice as the skateboard venue. I think all the concerns around parking transportation, etc.

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Christopher Lee: don't seem to be something that we've considered thoroughly

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Christopher Lee: within the Vnc. And those will be put under a microscope from Mayor Bass, with Tracy Park, and with La 28. So

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Christopher Lee: in typical Vnc fashion, we're passing the responsibility of thorough study onto a larger entity. and

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Christopher Lee: while I stand by the sentiment. I do have continued concerns about the parking, the traffic, etc., that I don't think we're going to pass a sift test from the Olympic Committee or anybody above us.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Christopher. Okay, With that we'll close public comment, Jim.

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jim murez: Thank you. So public comment is closed. Does the Board have any comments that they would like to make.

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jim murez: Okay, let's go in the order that i'm seeing the hands come up, Allie, You got it first.

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CJ Cole: Hmm.

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Alley Bean: I'm. Just really fast. I was in a really big world Peace convention in Japan with a 1 million people, and there are experts that know how to do this transportation thing like they're brilliant. It was in a very small place, and they got people in and out of there.

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Alley Bean: It was amazing with the you know, the shuttles. They had trains which we don't have. But there, there's ways to do it, and I think it'd be awesome. So I I I know that there's experts that can figure out how to get people in and out of here without parking.

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jim murez: Thank you, Patrick. Go ahead your head those up next.

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Patrick McKinley: So with with the Olympics, you see, comes an influx of a lot of funding to upgrade systems to the city, which is why cities use the fight for them and want them in their area. And I think this is a great opportunity to have us host this skateboarding in our neighborhood. But with that comes, you know, we really need to start taking a look as a board of being, you know. Yes, in my backyard.

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Patrick McKinley: Yes, I want these upgrades. Yes, I would like these things. Yes, I would like to open the beach up to access. Yes, I would like more mass transportation, and what I've seen from most of the board since I've been on in January is very much. No.

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Patrick McKinley: on almost everything. No, no housing.

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Patrick McKinley: no mass transportation, no upgrades. I'm gonna talk about kiosk. No Kiosk.

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Patrick McKinley: So if you want 28, the Olympics to be successful in this neighborhood and host the skate park, then we need to change our mentality about how we're accepting things, and how we're ready to take opportunities to better the community and better the neighborhood.

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jim murez: Thank you, Patrick J: Your hand was up.

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jay handal: Yeah, I just want to say that you know the the skateboard venue is awesome. you know, being one of the founders of the Skate park over at Stona Park and working with Nike to open up the skate park over at the old civic center, the original skating area for

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jay handal: Tony Hawk and some of the great skaters. you know this is. This could be a great opportunity for Venice.

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CJ Cole: you know, and the Skate Park to really be on the map.

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jay handal: and we can all sit here and worry about traffic.

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jay handal: But the reality is, if you look at the 84 Olympics, it was all about traffic, and it was all about public safety. and they actually made public safety work, and they made traffic work.

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jay handal: and most people watch cause fly by as opposed to their being this great

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jay handal: traffic jam that was predicted. So you know, I think there's nothing wrong with us making the formal request

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jay handal: the powers that be that can decide whether or not.

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jay handal: You know it's something that will work in our area. They'll make that decision. But you know what they're gonna Look at making that decision. If we don't push it and ask them to do it. So I I think it's a great idea, and I think it'll bring great more great visibility to an area that has been

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jay handal: probably the focus of really bad Pr. Over the last few years.

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jay handal: you know, with the homeless and the issues that we're going on down in Venice, so it's time to rebuild Venice. It's time to rebuild the reputation of Venice. It's time to make Venice you know in the public spotlight

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jay handal: a positive, not a negative anymore. And something like this can really help. So I would fully support it.

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CJ Cole: Thank you. Jay, Nico: go ahead.

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Nico Ruderman: Yeah, i'm gonna sort of echo what Jay was just saying. You know Venice has had a lot of

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Nico Ruderman: really bad press Internationally i'm. In the past few years Some of it justified some of it. Not

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Nico Ruderman: but we we as a community, really need to. Well, you know.

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Nico Ruderman: I don't need to, but but it'd be nice if if we started getting some good press and and some good light being shown on us. You know Venice is one of the original places of of skateboarding.

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Nico Ruderman: and you know i'm I'm. I'm very supportive of this. I've I myself have been to Olympic events never been to a summer event. I've been a lot of winter events.

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Nico Ruderman: and

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Nico Ruderman: a lot is done to make sure people can get an in and out. This is something that people

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Nico Ruderman: figure out.

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Nico Ruderman: You know. I've been places where you ride a bus. You go to Park somewhere, and you ride a bus for a half hour to get to the remote venue wherever it is

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Nico Ruderman: so I I I think the whole parking situation is is not as big of a concern as as people may think.

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Nico Ruderman: One last thing you know I I I've been thinking about this myself for the past couple of years. How nice would be if if we had the Olympics. And you know Another thing I I thought would be really nice is if we got the 3 on 3 Street basketball. You know Venice Beach is one of the original homes of of street basketball, and it'd be another another cool events that that we can host.

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Nico Ruderman: So that's all. But i'm going to vote. Yes.

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jim murez: thank you, Nico, Michael, your hand is up.

2225
04:25:22.940 --> 04:25:28.600
Michael Jensen: Yes, thank you. So I think it's natural to have a

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Michael Jensen: skateboarding event in

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Michael Jensen: in Venice. I'm happy to hear that a lot of the

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Michael Jensen: people who, I usually hear raised concerns about traffic and parking are just that now, and I hope that that is an indication of their views to come. So I support this. I think

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it'd be great to have this kind of event

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Michael Jensen: to revitalize Venice Beach. Thanks.

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jim murez: Okay. Thank you, Daffodil. Your hand is up.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yeah, I would say, this is a long way off, and there's a lot of

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Daffodil Tyminski: a lot of work to do to work out the details, so I probably would not let Perfect be the enemy of good here, because I think this is something that would be great for us, and

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04:26:11.880 --> 04:26:15.970
Daffodil Tyminski: when we had tried working on this in the Neighborhood Committee last year.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Bonan's office wouldn't even engage, so the fact that we actually have a shot at working with the Council Office to support the community is fantastic. so I think it's a great idea.

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Jim Robb: I just wanted to wrap up. Thank you, guys, for for all your comments. Yeah, this is just to get the the ball rolling.

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Jim Robb: I want to try to have some

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Jim Robb: urban planning my next meeting to talk about how we can revitalize. You know some of the areas in Venice, and maybe come up with a concept of how we want it to look and all that so.

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Jim Robb: even though I've I've I've consulted with the news that we spoke about. About. You know, upgrading the park, the Triangle Park, or whatever. So and if there's any other urban planners that are out there that we know, or actually

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Jim Robb: on the Vnc. That would be great. I just think, you know, I think.

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04:27:07.810 --> 04:27:10.090
Jim Robb: like everybody else said, we need. You know

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04:27:10.230 --> 04:27:20.970
Jim Robb: we had a bad reputation. thanks to you know, a few of us helping get the homeless situation off the boardwalk, and some of us on the board help do that. So

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Jim Robb: you know, I think. Let's go for it. Thank you for hey, Jim. We've got a whole planning committee. We can also throw in the next

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04:27:28.300 --> 04:27:43.830
Jim Robb: beautiful. Okay, Michael.

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04:27:43.830 --> 04:27:49.900
Jim Robb: Thank you. Anybody else have any comments about this one and then let's take a vote.

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jim murez: Okay, let's take the vote.

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04:27:57.040 --> 04:28:02.590
jim murez: I will vote. Yes. everybody can unmute. We can get through this quickly.

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04:28:02.610 --> 04:28:03.550
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

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04:28:04.870 --> 04:28:06.600
jay handal: Jay. Yes.

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04:28:06.980 --> 04:28:11.620
jim murez: Vicki.

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04:28:12.890 --> 04:28:13.640
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes.

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04:28:15.320 --> 04:28:16.300
jim murez: Nico.

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04:28:16.490 --> 04:28:17.280
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

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04:28:17.770 --> 04:28:19.390
Jim Robb: Jim, Rob. Yes.

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jim murez: Jason.

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04:28:20.940 --> 04:28:21.820
Jason Sugars: Yes.

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04:28:22.130 --> 04:28:23.920
Alley Bean: Ali

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04:28:27.060 --> 04:28:28.860
jim murez: Mike.

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04:28:29.350 --> 04:28:30.230
Mike Bravo: Yes.

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04:28:33.520 --> 04:28:35.600
CJ Cole: Cj: Yes.

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04:28:36.180 --> 04:28:37.170
jim murez: Robert.

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robertthibodeau: Yes.

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04:28:41.910 --> 04:28:43.400
Clark Brown: Clark. Yes.

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04:28:46.150 --> 04:28:46.870
Michael Jensen: yes.

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04:28:47.480 --> 04:28:49.330
jim murez: and Patrick. Yes.

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Jim Robb: thank you. Everybody.

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04:28:51.600 --> 04:28:57.170
jim murez: The motion carries 18 0 0. Moving right along

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04:28:58.840 --> 04:29:01.610
jim murez: Metro Bike, share

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jim murez: seating at Walgrobe and Venice.

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jim murez: Robert, do you want to introduce us?

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04:29:12.640 --> 04:29:19.240
robertthibodeau: This was brought to us by Metro Bike share. They reached out to us.

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robertthibodeau: and they want to put stalls in in what is currently a red zone. The gentleman could not be at our meeting tonight to explain it himself, he did a small presentation for us

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robertthibodeau: at Ptc.

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04:29:35.080 --> 04:29:42.100
robertthibodeau: It's in front of an existing apartment building. It is not taking away any parking.

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04:29:42.450 --> 04:29:47.280
robertthibodeau: and it's conveniently located near the High School.

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jim murez: So do you want to read the motion?

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robertthibodeau: Yes, sir.

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robertthibodeau: The Board of officers of the Venice Neighborhood Council supports Metro Bike shares sighting a station at the intersection of Walgrove and Venice Boulevard

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robertthibodeau: with pro proper community outreach.

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jay handal: I'll second it.

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jim murez: Thank you, Jay.

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04:30:18.850 --> 04:30:20.910
jim murez: We have any public comment.

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04:30:22.460 --> 04:30:24.030
Daffodil Tyminski: We do.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Christopher Lee Go ahead!

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04:30:29.990 --> 04:30:32.020
Christopher Lee: There we go.

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Christopher Lee: I like the I. It's similar to the last comment regarding this Skate Park. I like the idea of it, and it does require some more thought citing something. There is a great idea, and there is no bike lane on Mogrove, which is a major thoroughfare going into Santa Monica, which presents a hazard for bikers that are going to be using that.

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Christopher Lee: So there is a larger discussion that may need to be touched upon about bike lanes in the area. Secondly, it also reflects a similar concern of the things we've had in the past regarding scooters

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Christopher Lee: increase in parking. There now means we're gonna have less sidewalks space for things like scooters and such which are already littering those sidewalks in that area. So I would just take those into consideration as you make your vote on. This is

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Christopher Lee: good idea in theory. Just need to think it out a little bit more on implementation.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you developer, Go ahead.

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- ni developer: Okay.

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- ni developer: Yes, that's right. And I'm a new kind of developer. Yeah. And of course I don't like this.

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- ni developer: and I think we have to make a motion to hate this.

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- ni developer: Yes.

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04:31:49.310 --> 04:31:57.440
- ni developer: Junk, that's what's gonna be winding up there. Almost criminals breaking the stalls and taking the bikes out

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04:31:57.510 --> 04:32:03.030
- ni developer: selling the parts. Yeah, selling the parts. Good point there. Whoever said that? Thank you.

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- ni developer: But don't interrupt my time. and, as we know.

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04:32:08.740 --> 04:32:17.260
- ni developer: almost criminals and all of these bike racks. I'll give it up to my homeless friend. Here, Billy, go ahead. Oh, I like this like here.

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- ni developer: Yeah, they call it the street furniture.

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I like it. I'll make sure to steal a couple of them a month.

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- ni developer: and but but eventually, when you steal enough that they they don't cook you more bikes in, and they just leave the racks there that stay there for decades.

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Daffodil Tyminski: All right. Thank you. Developer Lisa Redmond. Go ahead.

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Lisa Redmond: Yeah, I agree with everything that, Christopher said earlier. So I don't need to repeat that. But I also need to ask.

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Lisa Redmond: What are we supporting here? I mean it to me. The motion kind of reads like I support ice cream at birthday parties.

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Lisa Redmond: I mean. Are we sending a letter? Are we supporting it through our Council office to support it through the Transportation Committee. Are we connecting to a Cis? It just is we're supporting it. And

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Lisa Redmond: who is that winning For how are we moving this forward. What is the purpose of this motion?

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Lisa Redmond: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Lisa Jill Crosby. Go ahead.

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Jill Crosby: I tend to agree with the idea that I haven't been super impressed with bike, sharing in terms of vandalism in terms of

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Jill Crosby: the disregard, for they're not. They're not handled with extreme care most often, and in terms of the bike LAN. I'm, i'm for bike lanes. But I I just I think this needs a whole lot more vetting, You know. I've I've

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Jill Crosby: cleaned a bunch of bikes off my yard from people, you know, scooters and birds and things like that. I just. I feel like we need to look at what we've already tried, and maybe reframe before we just launch into something. That sounds sounds good.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Thank you. Helen Fallon: Go ahead.

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Helen Fallon: Yeah, I also i'm concerned about Metro has had a tremendous amount of money lost the

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Helen Fallon: right. I also want to point. I attended. I saw the presentation and the the gentleman that we had

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04:34:28.020 --> 04:34:39.200
Helen Fallon: dots that showed the usage, and there was a very big dot down my ocean front walk, and as you went further and further away from beach. This dots got tinier and tinier and tinier.

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Helen Fallon: and they were pretty minuscule, like maybe 7 bikes being used

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Helen Fallon: in the area around where they want to put these. It just happened to be that they la do. T has these 2 bike racks left, and they could be put anywhere in Los Angeles. They did come to Venice and offered them.

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04:34:57.880 --> 04:35:10.770
Helen Fallon: Do we really need to take something that we don't need? And I think there has to be some outreach to the school, because I really seriously doubt that many of those kids are going to be getting on the bikes with heavy backpacks and carry around.

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04:35:10.950 --> 04:35:16.029
Helen Fallon: and you know, if they're going to get on the bus, they're just gonna hop on the bus and stay on it to get home.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Helen

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Daffodil Tyminski: Erica more.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

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04:35:24.290 --> 04:35:42.640
Erica Moore: hey? There! Well, clearly, I have missed a couple of transportation meetings that I need to be at, because that particular area is right by my business and a very familiar with it. and I would say that it's not necessarily not gonna work there. But I need to look at exactly. I think they're talking about on the north

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04:35:42.660 --> 04:35:53.310
Erica Moore: corner. It's across Wall Street, on the north side of the street. I need no clarification on that, but because I do believe they already have a station of those bikes across on the other corner

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Erica Moore: that's near the school. It does make sense to be near a school to have some bikes. Possibly I know my son was using them sometimes for sports to to ride home from sports games.

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04:36:04.900 --> 04:36:05.790
Erica Moore: but

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Erica Moore: there is a huge problem with parking in our section. Right there. There is a huge construction project on the opposing corner which is taking up tons of of the parking spaces. I'm concerned about that. I know it's in a red zone.

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04:36:18.470 --> 04:36:24.169
Erica Moore: But what happens is those those bikes and scooters end up all over our sidewalks and on the street.

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Erica Moore: Christopher lives across the street from me. He knows he knows what i'm talking about, so I do like a lot of points he made, too. Thanks.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks, Erica Coloni W. Go ahead.

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04:36:36.500 --> 04:36:39.619
Kalani W: E bike sales out. Sell

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04:36:39.710 --> 04:36:44.840
Kalani W: conventional bike sales 200 to one. Why are we planning

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04:36:45.099 --> 04:37:00.990
Kalani W: night for nineteenth century technology when it when it's 20. The twenty-first century people do not ride conventional bikes. The kids are using e bikes, and we should be planning for immobility

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04:37:00.990 --> 04:37:13.599
Kalani W: not conventional pedal, bike mobility. That immobility is what's going to save our butt during the Olympics, also in speaking to to some grocery store workers where I live.

2335
04:37:13.650 --> 04:37:22.730
Kalani W: They gave up the buses. No one's writing mass transit if they can help it. We had 22 people died on mass

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04:37:22.730 --> 04:37:42.180
Kalani W: transit in the last 2 months from overdose and foul play on our metro and our buses. They are unsafe until we can improve the safety issue on mass transit. We need to start planning for immobility where you can get a E bike for under a $1,000.

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04:37:42.200 --> 04:37:43.800
Kalani W: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And our last caller, and then we'll close. Public comment is, Yolanda

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04:37:49.759 --> 04:37:51.630
Daffodil Tyminski: Number 6 9 0.

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1310****690: Yes, I was present for the hearing of this.

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My only concern of all of this is that

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04:38:02.520 --> 04:38:09.520
1310****690: we don't have enough stations. What they do is they pick them up. They come down to Venice, and they leave them

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04:38:09.529 --> 04:38:15.509
1310****690: in front of my house, wherever they can, on the sidewalks.

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04:38:15.599 --> 04:38:30.520
1310****690: and my understanding from the gentleman who gave the presentation, that if they don't take them back and put them back into their solve, they could be fine up to $2,000. Will that happen? I don't think so. Nobody's going to pay a fine $2,000.

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04:38:30.880 --> 04:38:36.669
1310****690: We just need to look into this. People need to be educated. You go to Europe.

2346
04:38:36.779 --> 04:38:39.210
They have them everywhere. Okay.

2347
04:38:39.520 --> 04:38:49.740
1310****690: but they take one bike and they put them in a stall. They take another bike, and they put them into the stall. Here the people Aren't educated enough to really

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04:38:49.860 --> 04:39:02.779
1310****690: take consideration of not leaving them wherever they think they can. They're very heavy, and if you don't put turn them on. They're very heavy to move. So maybe there is consideration. Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks. Jim will close public comment.

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04:39:07.450 --> 04:39:11.020
jim murez: Okay, public comment is closed.

2351
04:39:11.439 --> 04:39:14.960
jim murez: Let's take committee comment. Nico. You have your hand up. Go ahead.

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04:39:16.930 --> 04:39:22.680
Nico Ruderman: Yeah, actually, I I was at this meeting, too, and I actually have a question.

2353
04:39:23.090 --> 04:39:33.700
Nico Ruderman: he what? The the gentleman who came and spoke I'm i'm blanking on his name. had Ted, and had said, I know there was a lot of pressure on him to actually do proper outreach

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04:39:33.730 --> 04:39:48.710
Nico Ruderman: around this area of of actual residents and and not just landowners. And I'm. I'm curious. Did he ever come back with anything? Because I I thought he was supposed to be here tonight with some answers, and I I don't, and I I know he's not in attendance.

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robertthibodeau: So, Robert, do you remember that

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04:40:00.070 --> 04:40:07.890
robertthibodeau: I can't pull up the name very easily? He was not available to attend the meeting tonight. The motion

2357
04:40:08.240 --> 04:40:16.460
robertthibodeau: was on the agenda because we passed it. I figured i'd take a shot at presenting for him. and

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04:40:17.690 --> 04:40:25.460
robertthibodeau: he was going to notice the mainly the apartment building that he was

2359
04:40:26.310 --> 04:40:28.380
robertthibodeau: proposing to put this in front of.

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robertthibodeau: I mean, this was an offer from him. I I don't. I don't really think he's going to be buttered if people don't want to do it. I have no skin in this game. This came before us. This was

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robertthibodeau: a

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robertthibodeau: one of 2 surplus

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04:40:46.310 --> 04:40:54.010
robertthibodeau: stations that Metro had, and the site across from the High School

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04:40:54.080 --> 04:40:56.700
robertthibodeau: was identified as a

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04:40:58.210 --> 04:41:10.370
robertthibodeau: as a possible site. I think he was gauging the interest that the community had in it. But I think it will be snapped up by another community.

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04:41:10.560 --> 04:41:20.050
robertthibodeau: and if people don't want it, then we shouldn't. We should tell them that we're not interested. I mean, that's kind of what it sounds like. The committee saw no harm in it.

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04:41:20.190 --> 04:41:29.190
robertthibodeau: So that's why we put it in front of the Vnc. But from the commentary tonight it seems like everybody is very negative on it. So maybe you just say no, and

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04:41:29.380 --> 04:41:32.950
robertthibodeau: we'll send them a letter saying we'll, we'll see you down the road.

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04:41:35.990 --> 04:41:41.400
Nico Ruderman: Okay. yeah, I mean, you know, I I honestly don't know how to vote for this. I mean, you know I I

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04:41:41.970 --> 04:41:51.600
robertthibodeau: it it seems like I I I was. I was really hoping to do outreach. Yeah. To me it seemed pretty harmless. People have like a lot of questions.

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04:41:52.050 --> 04:41:54.040
robertthibodeau: It seemed pretty straightforward. But

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04:41:54.100 --> 04:42:00.450
Nico Ruderman: yeah, no, I mean it seems harmless to me. But I don't want to vote. Yes, if you know the people that live right there, or don't want it, you know.

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04:42:00.520 --> 04:42:01.500
robertthibodeau: So

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04:42:02.590 --> 04:42:03.840
Nico Ruderman: anyway. Thanks.

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04:42:04.900 --> 04:42:18.440
jim murez: Yeah, hey, Robert, I would say, just let's not back down too quick. I think one of our jobs here as board members is not just to listen to the loudest voice in the room, and those that actually have time to attend these means. But think of the community as a whole.

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Patrick McKinley: and you know, if we vote yes, and this gets put in place, and the community doesn't like it. These things are pretty easy to remove. This is like a day install. In fact, in Boston, New York, where I used to live, and wrote these on but

2377
04:42:29.890 --> 04:42:39.380
Patrick McKinley: yearly basis, and actually had a membership. They take them out for the season. Every snow season they go out and go back in. So this is not something hard. It's something you can put in.

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Patrick McKinley: You can see how it goes. You can see if it connects. You know the school down to the beach or provides access for you know school kids who, you know, don't have the bus or don't have parents picking up and want to come down to the beach or want to go to the Skate Park, or want to do something else and want to park it there right. I think it's a great thing athlete after school activities and are leaving late. It kind of makes sense sense to me. Then you could take a bike home or

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04:43:01.190 --> 04:43:05.750
robertthibodeau: well. However, I don't. I don't even really know how they work. I've never been on a metro bike. Personally.

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Patrick McKinley: they're great, and they're easy to ride, and they're you know. You don't have to worry about it, and you know those that are older. If you want to go drinking, you can drink it, park it, go drinking and take it over home, and you don't have to worry about. Go and get your bike next day, so I mean there's there's I don't think there's a downside to adding more of these bike systems in there. They have to be locked up. You do pay huge fine. They have your credit card beforehand. So it is. You know. You find the mob map, and you drop it off right where you can.

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Patrick McKinley: Hopefully. You need to find a stall. If they get the school they probably need a lot more, because, you know, if a lot of kids can't ride their bike that bike to school because they won't be able to find a stall, and they'll be stuck with it. Not in the class, so I don't think there's a downside to trying.

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jim murez: Thank you, Patrick. Jim Rob, you have your hand up.

2383
04:43:47.940 --> 04:43:52.950
Jim Robb: Yeah. Well, I have a couple of concerns like Nico, and also listening to

2384
04:43:55.800 --> 04:43:56.830
Jim Robb: Erica

2385
04:43:57.380 --> 04:44:05.080
Jim Robb: from where it sounds like to me it sounds like there's a big construction that if I if I recall if I drive by, it seems to me like. There's a big

2386
04:44:05.170 --> 04:44:09.060
Jim Robb: 4 story building going up where this is supposed to be placed.

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Jim Robb: and, second of all, well, a couple of points. I i'm the chair of the ocean for a walk. I also live about 20 feet from Speedway

2388
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Jim Robb: and the corner of North Venice, and I can tell you there's 2. There's one on Pacific, and then there's one right on the beach, right at the end of North Venice, and I can tell you the one of the or status is nothing but a shit show, their bikes thrown all over the place. It is not maintained.

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Jim Robb: I think, between the about 10,000 scooters we have here and everything else we have here. There's plenty of vehicles for kids or amusement. Park rides

2390
04:44:49.710 --> 04:44:51.120
Jim Robb: shit. I see a

2391
04:44:51.610 --> 04:44:56.240
Jim Robb: 9 year old kids on scooters going up and down the boardwalk, so

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Jim Robb: I don't know if we need any more of those. I appreciate Robert and Patrick. I appreciate your hard work, but I don't know if I agree that we need any more of them. So convince me.

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jim murez: Okay, Patrick, your hand is still up, and i'm not sure if it needs to be.

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04:45:15.370 --> 04:45:35.100
Patrick McKinley: No, it does. I would like to remind. This is the city program, and not a third party. This is not birds. This is nothing else. This is city Metro. These are city petrol bikes, which means they're maintained. There's a budget for it. There's a revenue screen, so it's a little different than you know birds and the other stuff that finds its way all over the curves in front of my house.

2395
04:45:35.730 --> 04:45:48.530
jim murez: So I would like to add a comment. Patrick, I gotta disagree with you. This is a negative for us. Negative revenue stream. This Metro is losing lots of money

2396
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jim murez: everywhere that these things exist, with the exception of Venice, because people in Venice are using them as tourism bicycles. When they came into Venice we didn't have much, say

2397
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jim murez: they put in 16 locations, and took out some massive number of parking spaces, which included the

2398
04:46:11.530 --> 04:46:16.690
jim murez: a 3 min or 5 min loading zone that was directly in front of Bank of America.

2399
04:46:16.770 --> 04:46:33.940
jim murez: which is continued to be a problem for people that need to go in and quickly use the ATM machines. But you know all things consider, you know, whether or not they belong on the street on Abbey Kenny, where we have limited parking. You know a

2400
04:46:34.090 --> 04:46:37.830
jim murez: this particular location. They're not going to take out

2401
04:46:38.490 --> 04:46:42.070
jim murez: parking. They are going to be located on the street.

2402
04:46:42.400 --> 04:46:45.240
jim murez: They do have an inherent

2403
04:46:46.170 --> 04:46:53.340
jim murez: group of people directly across the street at the school which could theoretically benefit from them tremendously.

2404
04:46:54.460 --> 04:47:02.020
jim murez: I'm. In support of this location. I think that this is perhaps the first really wise location that they put them in.

2405
04:47:02.110 --> 04:47:08.400
jim murez: I have watched for the better part of 4 years now since they introduced the program in Venice.

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04:47:08.480 --> 04:47:21.520
jim murez: The workers of Metro picking up the bicycles from one location and restocking another location which sort of suggests to me that people use them for one way to a one-way. Ride.

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04:47:21.550 --> 04:47:31.970
jim murez: and that means that the program probably needs more tuning to get the right number of bicycles in the right place, and I can tell you, from having traveled around the world

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04:47:31.970 --> 04:47:47.980
jim murez: in various different cities, especially throughout Europe. Most of the bicycles there are owned by private companies, and you, Don't, have to part them just in a particular stall, so that means that you can leave the bike where you get off of it. And you're okay.

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jim murez: We don't. They didn't have the last time I was there. They didn't have the scooter in flux that we have, and I think that's what's happened with the scooters as well. But we don't have a program yet where the scooters can be parked and scooter corral, and they don't take up the side walk, so yes, i'm in support of this side. I think it's a good opportunity to actually see if there's a location where it really makes sense, where people will use them, and they will get cycled back into the system rather than having

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04:48:14.560 --> 04:48:21.270
jim murez: to have Metro people come out and move them for us. So that's my comment, Robert. You want to have the last day you got your hand up.

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robertthibodeau: The comment about the negative revenue stream would apply to all public transportation. I mean public transportation doesn't make money.

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04:48:30.010 --> 04:48:35.220
robertthibodeau: How the transportation is, it would, whether you're talking buses or trains, or whatever

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04:48:35.340 --> 04:48:38.930
robertthibodeau: we subsidize it, and we subsidize it for the public good.

2414
04:48:39.140 --> 04:48:40.350
robertthibodeau: the bikes.

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04:48:40.390 --> 04:48:50.960
robertthibodeau: the and to lower emissions to provide transportation for people who don't have transportation options, and frankly, to lower the number of cars on the street for people who do have cars.

2416
04:48:51.230 --> 04:48:57.030
robertthibodeau: I mean. There's a lot of public good that gets done. But public transportation does not make money at any level.

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robertthibodeau: I don't disagree with you, Robert. I just the the point, I guess, is that it yeah, in in Dennis we're not disagreeing with you, but I wanted to bring up that point so that the bikes weren't singled out as a money loser above and beyond other other other

2418
04:49:11.320 --> 04:49:14.310
robertthibodeau: methods of public transportation. None of it makes money.

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04:49:14.790 --> 04:49:30.750
robertthibodeau: Let me let me make this point where you see you were letting me talk, Buddy. Okay. But let me let me let me let me let me finish with you. Whatever you want to say, right, because I only have one more thing, and then I promise I won't say anything else. Alright, the the bikes are considered an extension of the bus lines.

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robertthibodeau: So the problem in La is that the bus lines can't service all the streets, and you have really long blocks in between bus lines. Unlike other major cities, where you have

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04:49:40.680 --> 04:49:43.400
robertthibodeau: a much tighter grouping of your blocks.

2422
04:49:43.760 --> 04:49:52.230
robertthibodeau: and you have a much tighter amount of bus lines that can go through in La, you get people who are trying to commute to work.

2423
04:49:52.410 --> 04:50:00.740
robertthibodeau: but but the distance from where they can take the closest bus stop. That's reasonable to where they're actually working or going to school or living

2424
04:50:00.770 --> 04:50:07.690
robertthibodeau: can be incredible distances. So the bikes are supplementary to the bus lines or frankly, to the train lines.

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04:50:07.740 --> 04:50:27.600
robertthibodeau: and that's how you have to think about it is that it's all part of a unified system, and you know whether you vote for this or not. Again, I have no skin in that game, but you kind of have to look at it as a comprehensive system. I think Metro is trying to do the best they can to identify locations. I think this was a goodwill offer on their part. I don't think it was a

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04:50:27.600 --> 04:50:29.420
robertthibodeau: a Gotcha kind of thing.

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04:50:29.520 --> 04:50:36.760
robertthibodeau: and they just wanted to gauge interest in general, of whether Venice was interested in in in more bikes.

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04:50:36.850 --> 04:50:41.060
robertthibodeau: Finally, one more thing I said more than I was going to is that

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robertthibodeau: Venice was a higher use, especially at the beach. But even throughout Venice was a higher use area. Now a lot of that might have been from tourism. But again, that's a good thing, you know, because then you don't have to work bringing a Zillion cars here. It shows that people are coming to Venice are using public transportation.

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robertthibodeau: Possibly, or at least they're used, even if they are driving here. They're using alternative modes of transportation for trips within Venice to sub locations within Venice, which I think is a positive thing, because again, it reduces the amount of traffic that you and I and other people on this board have to deal with

2431
04:51:18.260 --> 04:51:23.910
robertthibodeau: sort of on on, on, on the roads, etc. Okay. Done. Sorry.

2432
04:51:24.050 --> 04:51:27.640
jim murez: Okay, Jason. I noticed your hand came up for a moment.

2433
04:51:28.620 --> 04:51:30.310
jim murez: Did you want to say something?

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04:51:30.740 --> 04:51:45.010
jim murez: No, no, okay, thank you so much. Okay, Robert. I don't disagree with anything you said. I just remember several years ago, when they were introducing this, the amount of pushback we got from all of the small businesses on ocean front walk

2435
04:51:45.090 --> 04:52:01.150
jim murez: and the surrounding area that we're renting bicycles. And how much of an impact that's had on their business, because the metro bikes have now become a tourism thing that you know it's it's just you. We're shifting where the revenue is going.

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04:52:01.150 --> 04:52:19.860
jim murez: and I think that's something that we also have to be careful of. I think this is a particularly good spot. There are no bicycle rental shops there. There is a bus stop. This does get a person. The last mile, which was the idea of the system Originally I'm. Completely in support of it. Let's take a boat. I think we beat this one into the ground.

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jim murez: Okay.

2438
04:52:24.310 --> 04:52:35.080
jim murez: let's go through this really quickly, if we can. If everybody can unmute, we can go as fast as possible. I'm going to vote. Yes.

2439
04:52:35.160 --> 04:52:36.780
Vicki Halliday: Vicki. Yes.

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04:52:36.890 --> 04:52:39.830
jim murez: Bruno. Yes. Sima.

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04:52:40.990 --> 04:52:45.300
jim murez: for seeing that her voice is she still with us?

2442
04:52:47.070 --> 04:52:48.690
jim murez: I'm gonna assume that, Nico.

2443
04:52:49.120 --> 04:52:49.930
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

2444
04:52:50.390 --> 04:52:51.330
jim murez: Jim.

2445
04:52:52.190 --> 04:52:55.380
Jim Robb: I think i'm going to abstain. Sorry, guys.

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04:52:56.560 --> 04:52:57.990
jim murez: Jason.

2447
04:52:58.390 --> 04:52:59.290
Jason Sugars: No.

2448
04:53:00.930 --> 04:53:01.780
jim murez: Ali.

2449
04:53:02.520 --> 04:53:04.440
Alley Bean: Oh, yeah.

2450
04:53:04.990 --> 04:53:05.900
jim murez: Hi.

2451
04:53:08.400 --> 04:53:09.290
jim murez: Hi.

2452
04:53:09.730 --> 04:53:13.060
Chie: Yes. Sorry.

2453
04:53:13.940 --> 04:53:15.420
Mike Bravo: Yeah.

2454
04:53:17.320 --> 04:53:20.460
jim murez: I think she had the late I think she left. Yeah.

2455
04:53:20.580 --> 04:53:22.920
CJ Cole: Cj.

2456
04:53:26.020 --> 04:53:27.790
robertthibodeau: Robert. Yes.

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04:53:28.250 --> 04:53:29.030
jim murez: Clark.

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04:53:29.040 --> 04:53:29.950
Clark Brown: Yes.

2459
04:53:31.660 --> 04:53:32.620
Michael Jensen: yes.

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04:53:32.830 --> 04:53:37.750
jim murez: Patrick. Yes. motion carries 13 1 2,

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04:53:37.860 --> 04:53:39.190
Jim Robb: a job guys.

2462
04:53:40.620 --> 04:53:47.980
jim murez: Okay, this is another parking and transportation resolution to enforce existing Ovio signs. Robert.

2463
04:53:48.090 --> 04:53:50.180
jim murez: do you want to make the motion.

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04:53:51.140 --> 04:53:52.370
robertthibodeau: Yup.

2465
04:53:52.400 --> 04:53:54.130
jim murez: Go ahead and read it for us.

2466
04:53:54.390 --> 04:53:55.040
CJ Cole: Oh.

2467
04:53:55.080 --> 04:54:07.070
robertthibodeau: motion is, therefore the Board of officers of the Venice Neighborhood Council request that the Council office either directs parking enforcement to enforce Sovio signs within Venice during the hours

2468
04:54:07.170 --> 04:54:21.530
robertthibodeau: of 2 am. To 6 am. Without the need of residents to call in or allow stakeholders to call outside of enforcement hours to request enforcement during enforcement hours.

2469
04:54:21.790 --> 04:54:31.870
robertthibodeau: I think this was neat, though brought this to us. It was either Nicole or Mark, it was it was my motion.

2470
04:54:32.600 --> 04:54:34.960
Nico Ruderman: Thank you, Nico.

2471
04:54:36.570 --> 04:54:40.090
jim murez: Do we have any question about what the motion is?

2472
04:54:41.770 --> 04:54:49.930
jim murez: Seeing? No hands? I do. I do this this this this this sorry this one is 26,

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04:54:51.090 --> 04:54:53.050
Daffodil Tyminski: 24, and 26

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04:54:53.600 --> 04:55:01.910
jim murez: 24 are you saying they're different where i'm not sure this is this 24 we're on 24,

2475
04:55:02.570 --> 04:55:10.930
Daffodil Tyminski: and I apologize. We had 2 months in a row where our motions didn't make it onto adcom, and this is so. This is the

2476
04:55:11.500 --> 04:55:19.950
robertthibodeau: this is 3 months worth of stuff

2477
04:55:20.570 --> 04:55:28.180
robertthibodeau: motions. This isn't me just bringing in stuff. It's all stuff brought by stakeholders. So

2478
04:55:28.640 --> 04:55:34.270
jim murez: So yeah, it's 24 is different than 2626 is talking about locating a particular side.

2479
04:55:35.430 --> 04:55:39.140
robertthibodeau: That was solo dads and she's not here anymore. So

2480
04:55:39.870 --> 04:55:45.300
jim murez: No, we'll. We'll get to it right now we're on again. 24. Do we have public comment on 24?

2481
04:55:45.630 --> 04:55:46.540
Daffodil Tyminski: We do.

2482
04:55:47.740 --> 04:55:48.830
jim murez: Okay.

2483
04:55:49.360 --> 04:55:52.080
Daffodil Tyminski: shauna Brian. Go ahead.

2484
04:55:52.310 --> 04:55:54.900
Sean Obrien: Okay, Great thanks. Somebody to take a little more time.

2485
04:55:56.790 --> 04:56:04.330
Sean Obrien: You guys talked about how to get the signs. It's 67% of the people on the block need to sign up.

2486
04:56:04.350 --> 04:56:10.290
Sean Obrien: Then it gets given to the Council Office. Then it takes 6 to 8 months to get the sign.

2487
04:56:10.440 --> 04:56:29.440
Sean Obrien: Now, with the Enforcement. It is a bear. It's almost like they devices as to where there'd be no community participation in the past. I've had to set my clock at 20'clock in the morning walk outside, Make sure the vehicle in question was

2488
04:56:29.440 --> 04:56:33.850
Sean Obrien: still there. Come back in, spend a half hour on the phone

2489
04:56:33.900 --> 04:56:41.220
Sean Obrien: back. Then I was able to say, hey, I want them to call me when they show up. because then the police were dealing with it.

2490
04:56:41.250 --> 04:56:48.270
Sean Obrien: And and if you didn't do that, all like nothing got done, you always had. You always have to follow up with them

2491
04:56:48.440 --> 04:56:50.590
Sean Obrien: and be present when they're there.

2492
04:56:50.650 --> 04:57:04.780
Sean Obrien: and then, you know they would knock. They would tick it or whatnot. Sometimes you have to get 3 calls or more and get several tickets going before the person who's illegally parked will actually move.

2493
04:57:04.840 --> 04:57:16.110
Sean Obrien: So this would make it much more for us to participate and the enforcement of this. So I please ask you to pass. Thank you.

2494
04:57:19.600 --> 04:57:22.530
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Developer, Go ahead.

2495
04:57:28.710 --> 04:57:29.540
Okay.

2496
04:57:30.310 --> 04:57:32.400
- ni developer: yes. What a nice motion!

2497
04:57:34.590 --> 04:57:38.120
- ni developer: Where are we going to put the Rps when we start calling them? Now

2498
04:57:40.490 --> 04:57:42.530
- ni developer: we have to have lots of toy yards.

2499
04:57:44.720 --> 04:57:57.940
- ni developer: and that's where the plan comes in. We have to get together with Tracy Park. If I grow up where we can take them. Okay. we have a lot of places on the analogue by like that.

2500
04:57:58.380 --> 04:58:01.350
- ni developer: we could use this alternative to truck areas.

2501
04:58:02.590 --> 04:58:03.970
Yes, the manager.

2502
04:58:05.340 --> 04:58:09.350
- ni developer: the homeless criminals come back and go really

2503
04:58:09.390 --> 04:58:10.090
i'm not.

2504
04:58:10.460 --> 04:58:16.020
- ni developer: and you will tell them it's 94 miles north. Human.

2505
04:58:16.580 --> 04:58:19.150
- ni developer: you Edwards Air Force based? Yes.

2506
04:58:21.460 --> 04:58:23.470
yes, I fully support this.

2507
04:58:24.390 --> 04:58:30.060
- ni developer: I'm here with Mike. Bon and like Mike, what do you think about this.

2508
04:58:30.730 --> 04:58:34.460
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. Jill Crosby. Go ahead.

2509
04:58:35.930 --> 04:58:44.450
Jill Crosby: Hi. I fully support this. I mean, I I agree with Shawn. I I've had to wake up at especially early times that set my alarm clock.

2510
04:58:44.500 --> 04:59:03.650
Jill Crosby: It just seems like we're working against the constituents, the stakeholders. I I just feel like everything we do works against the stakeholders and works for people who are not stakeholders. And i'm. I'm completely confused by how challenging! Sometimes we make things

2511
04:59:03.650 --> 04:59:18.350
Jill Crosby: that seem completely legitimate. It's it's as simple as somebody paying attention to a parking sign and observing it and not parking there, I mean again, I think, going back to what a couple of other people said, is.

2512
04:59:18.460 --> 04:59:38.410
Jill Crosby: you know this isn't to be irrational towards people. This is simply parking signs. We need to start and forcing this stuff so that we can start comfortably getting behind things like skateboard parks for the Olympics. I mean, we can't do one without the other. We need to start thinking this stuff through in a rational way.

2513
04:59:39.800 --> 04:59:40.910
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Joe.

2514
04:59:45.470 --> 04:59:47.920
Kalani W: As I stated. right here.

2515
04:59:48.140 --> 05:00:00.680
Kalani W: no one is above the law. We need to start enforcing that for those who claim that they're homeless, and housing is too expensive, and everything housing is always been expensive

2516
05:00:00.680 --> 05:00:08.360
Kalani W: in prime areas. I come from a state where the housing is even more expensive than California.

2517
05:00:08.460 --> 05:00:23.110
Kalani W: People work 3 jobs to afford to stay in their homes. and now that housing is a come is is an investment traded worldwide, the problems worse.

2518
05:00:23.260 --> 05:00:27.050
Kalani W: But allowing people to just

2519
05:00:27.440 --> 05:00:44.260
Kalani W: park on our streets, live where they want in Rvs is not tenable. Garcetti and Bonnet are gone. It's time we start being pragmatic and requiring the most of our citizens instead of coding them.

2520
05:00:44.530 --> 05:00:48.280
Kalani W: The law should apply equally to everyone.

2521
05:00:51.540 --> 05:00:58.430
Daffodil Tyminski: We have 2 more callers, Pat, Raphael and Erica Moore, and with Erica we're gonna close public comment. Oh, go ahead, Pat.

2522
05:01:01.290 --> 05:01:07.640
PatRaphael: Yes, I hope I get a whole running start, but I guess I didn't get a running start for my clock

2523
05:01:07.680 --> 05:01:08.560
that going

2524
05:01:09.220 --> 05:01:15.200
PatRaphael: anyways. Often we are trying to do what we are

2525
05:01:15.330 --> 05:01:18.880
PatRaphael: trying to do without saying we're trying to do what we're trying to do.

2526
05:01:19.830 --> 05:01:21.230
PatRaphael: Basically, it sounds like

2527
05:01:21.440 --> 05:01:22.830
PatRaphael: people don't want

2528
05:01:22.930 --> 05:01:28.290
PatRaphael: people living in their cars. and they're going round about ways to try to do it

2529
05:01:28.500 --> 05:01:31.320
PatRaphael: instead of just doing that. If that's what you want to do.

2530
05:01:31.560 --> 05:01:32.700
PatRaphael: If you go

2531
05:01:33.030 --> 05:01:40.930
PatRaphael: 7 feet and 22 feet, all people are gonna do is go out of their way to buy smaller vehicles like mine.

2532
05:01:41.430 --> 05:01:54.150
PatRaphael: Well, even with my small vehicles I still get tickets for being oversized right. So I mean, if you guys don't want people making this

2533
05:01:56.330 --> 05:01:57.650
PatRaphael: what that

2534
05:01:57.680 --> 05:02:04.760
PatRaphael: out of all of these worst decision, a bunch of terrible decisions, and sometimes this is the best bad decision.

2535
05:02:06.100 --> 05:02:09.750
PatRaphael: Then just say you don't want people using this as an option.

2536
05:02:10.040 --> 05:02:13.550
PatRaphael: Don't try to go around it with the oversized thing. It's not

2537
05:02:13.950 --> 05:02:15.110
PatRaphael: that. Well.

2538
05:02:15.990 --> 05:02:18.700
Daffodil Tyminski: okay last word, Erica more.

2539
05:02:20.220 --> 05:02:22.120
Erica Moore: Hi. I just wanted to say that.

2540
05:02:22.320 --> 05:02:25.790
Erica Moore: I mean, I believe we have a lot of issues with parking, and

2541
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Erica Moore: I just want to say this: Everybody keeps saying, You know we want to just enforce this. But the problem is, you can have as many laws as you want, but there's no one to actually enforce it. That's our problem, you know. Pacific Division is really tapped out.

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Erica Moore: They they are run so thin and in the middle of the night especially I can't tell you how many times I've called them at like 2 in the morning, and they don't respond to 5 am. I mean.

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Erica Moore: The problem is that you can have all these signs and rules, but it doesn't mean that they'll get enforced, and I think that's really an issue we have to look at. So I just wanted to. We in about that.

2544
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Erica Moore: Thank you.

2545
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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks, Erica. With that, Jim, we'll close public comment.

2546
05:03:08.630 --> 05:03:09.720
jim murez: Okay.

2547
05:03:10.440 --> 05:03:14.850
jim murez: Does the Board have any questions or comments they would like to make

2548
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jim murez: See? No hands? Oh, Nico.

2549
05:03:26.200 --> 05:03:37.960
Nico Ruderman: Yeah, I'll just speak really quickly on this. I mean. I wrote this as a sister motion to the other when we discussed earlier, and it it really gets into, you know, with what Shawn and some other people spoke about

2550
05:03:38.020 --> 05:03:45.720
Nico Ruderman: is that you know I I I have tons of you halls a park around me, and for me to get any enforcement I have to set my alarm clock

2551
05:03:48.780 --> 05:04:08.870
Nico Ruderman: for 2 am. And wake up and and to my sleep, which is just crazy. I'm i'm. You know i'm. I'm not getting paid to be. you know, parking enforcement. So this is really just requesting that either, you know we're allowed to, I mean, is is exactly what it says we're. We're allowed to call outside of those hours because I've tried. I've called a 10 at night and say, hey.

2552
05:04:08.970 --> 05:04:11.860
Nico Ruderman: you know this: this this truck has been parked there.

2553
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Nico Ruderman: you know, for days, and you come in for it. You have to call back at 2 am. It's. It's really just streamlining

2554
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Nico Ruderman: the usability of of our own neighborhood for us. It's that's that's all it's about.

2555
05:04:25.840 --> 05:04:26.410
Thank you.

2556
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jim murez: Thank you. Oh, okay, let's take a vote. I'm gonna go. Yes, if everybody can unmute, we can get through this quickly.

2557
05:04:35.780 --> 05:04:36.720
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

2558
05:04:37.570 --> 05:04:39.270
jay handal: Jay. Yes.

2559
05:04:39.300 --> 05:04:41.030
Vicki Halliday: yes.

2560
05:04:41.070 --> 05:04:42.790
jim murez: yes.

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jim murez: Nicole.

2562
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Nico Ruderman: Yes.

2563
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jim murez: Jim.

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Jim Robb: Can you come back to me, please? Jason?

2565
05:04:53.360 --> 05:04:54.250
Jason Sugars: Yes.

2566
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jim murez: Alli.

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Alley Bean: Yeah.

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jim murez: I

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jim murez: kai

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jim murez: Mike.

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Mike Bravo: No

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jim murez: solid that

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robertthibodeau: on Cj.

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CJ Cole: Yes.

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robertthibodeau: yes.

2576
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Clark Brown: Clark. Yes.

2577
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jim murez: the

2578
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Michael Jensen: Yes.

2579
05:05:23.820 --> 05:05:25.670
Jim Robb: Where's chair, although? Yes.

2580
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Jim Robb: Good Jim.

2581
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jim murez: Thank you, Jim Simba solid. Add. and kai. I assume you're all not here. Motion carries 14, one 0

2582
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jim murez: parking and transportation support pending automatic street dedications.

2583
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jim murez: This is a council file, so we'll be filing a community impact statement. If it is

2584
05:05:59.480 --> 05:06:01.030
jim murez: something that we

2585
05:06:01.070 --> 05:06:05.170
jim murez: vote to support. Robert. You want to go ahead and

2586
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jim murez: make the motion

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robertthibodeau: motion Refers to city council, file, 2214, 76 the board of officers of the Venice neighborhood Council, files the Cis supporting

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robertthibodeau: ending automatic street dedications as presented in council file 2214, 76. For the following reason. Spot widening leads to poorly designed in coherent streets.

2589
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robertthibodeau: spot widening often converts greenery

2590
05:06:33.980 --> 05:06:43.000
robertthibodeau: to and permeable as vault widening can add hundreds of thousands of dollars to the cost of housing development, as it may include

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robertthibodeau: utility, relocation, moving street lights and signal boxes and tree replanting.

2592
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jim murez: We get a second on the motion, please.

2593
05:06:53.140 --> 05:06:54.790
Michael Jensen: Second Michelle.

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jim murez: Thank you, Michael.

2595
05:06:58.300 --> 05:07:03.020
jim murez: You 2 guys are the ones that get this stuff in your committees all the time. It's good to have you here.

2596
05:07:04.510 --> 05:07:08.350
jim murez: Do we have any questions from any Board members before we take public comment?

2597
05:07:10.500 --> 05:07:15.450
jim murez: Okay, let's move to to public comment. Daffodil. Do we have any public comment?

2598
05:07:15.760 --> 05:07:18.680
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, developer, go ahead.

2599
05:07:25.480 --> 05:07:27.020
- ni developer: Yes, that's right.

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05:07:27.630 --> 05:07:30.440
- ni developer: Yeah. So new kind of developer.

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05:07:30.470 --> 05:07:38.940
- ni developer: I don't get it. I'm: a developer that hates most developers. Well, then, you're a good developer. You asked for a pair of board.

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05:07:39.390 --> 05:07:43.900
- ni developer: Yes, when I do my projects I have to give my dedication.

2603
05:07:44.260 --> 05:07:48.120
- ni developer: These dedications are forced to fund developer criminals.

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- ni developer: It helps keep them in line.

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It forces them to put new street

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- ni developer: widening new sidewalks, new tree wells, and of course, brand new, pretty working street like.

2607
05:08:01.900 --> 05:08:12.050
- ni developer: But James doesn't want that. No. he wants everything in darkness. and he wants to help developers. and that's what you're going to be doing.

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05:08:12.100 --> 05:08:17.690
- ni developer: This is nothing but a gift of public funds to the criminal developers.

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05:08:18.080 --> 05:08:22.260
- ni developer: I When I develop things I want to do, Dedication.

2610
05:08:22.270 --> 05:08:26.030
- ni developer: I want to leave a lasting of Prussian in my community.

2611
05:08:26.410 --> 05:08:30.080
- ni developer: Good puppet, the new creative developer.

2612
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Daffodil Tyminski: Helen, go ahead.

2613
05:08:36.580 --> 05:08:41.010
Helen Fallon: Yeah, by myself. Agree with go puppet here.

2614
05:08:42.060 --> 05:08:47.310
Helen Fallon: This just seems very pro development. I'm not sure what it's Impact is on Dennis.

2615
05:08:47.630 --> 05:08:57.750
Helen Fallon: and you know these are the kind of variances that Bch C wants for the Median project. It's all this. We don't have to widen sidewalks.

2616
05:08:58.070 --> 05:09:07.940
Helen Fallon: Substandard streets don't have to be approved, and I don't see why we're doing such a giveaway, and I like a giveaway like this to develop this.

2617
05:09:08.050 --> 05:09:10.750
Helen Fallon: I'm very puzzled by this, and I

2618
05:09:10.850 --> 05:09:17.990
Helen Fallon: i'm very disheartened that there's really no information here that really tells us how this is going to impact.

2619
05:09:18.420 --> 05:09:33.300
Helen Fallon: Yes, it's just not really clear at all. It seems a very broad motion that applies to all of Los Angeles, so I would urge you to vote against it. I don't think you have enough information to go forward with this, especially coming from.

2620
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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Helen. So we have Shauna, Brian, Coloni, W. And Lisa Redmond, and after Lisa we are closing public comment.

2621
05:09:41.970 --> 05:09:43.460
Daffodil Tyminski: Sean, go ahead.

2622
05:09:46.380 --> 05:09:53.620
Sean Obrien: They didn't understand the motion after hearing people speak. I gotta be against it. Thank you.

2623
05:09:54.290 --> 05:09:55.330
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

2624
05:09:56.680 --> 05:09:58.660
Daffodil Tyminski: Come on, me W. Go ahead.

2625
05:09:59.670 --> 05:10:04.820
Kalani W: I agree with the previous prior callers. The motion is too broad.

2626
05:10:04.840 --> 05:10:06.160
Kalani W: I oppose it.

2627
05:10:08.460 --> 05:10:11.960
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. Lisa Redmond. Go ahead.

2628
05:10:15.410 --> 05:10:22.800
Lisa Redmond: Yeah, Pretty much. Everyone already said everything. So i'm just putting my voice in there that I think it's a bad move, and we should disagree with it. Thank you.

2629
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jim murez: Okay.

2630
05:10:29.410 --> 05:10:33.980
Daffodil Tyminski: Well, Erica More, raise your hand after we

2631
05:10:34.570 --> 05:10:35.770
Daffodil Tyminski: go ahead, Erica.

2632
05:10:36.400 --> 05:10:38.030
Erica Moore: No, no, thank you.

2633
05:10:39.220 --> 05:10:40.160
Thank you.

2634
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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Go ahead, Jim.

2635
05:10:43.830 --> 05:10:46.340
jim murez: So now we can. Now we can close public call.

2636
05:10:50.390 --> 05:10:56.760
jim murez: So I guess i'll start off making a comment, because I think that there's some people that don't understand a lot about

2637
05:10:56.800 --> 05:10:58.770
jim murez: what this is actually saying.

2638
05:10:58.830 --> 05:11:04.630
jim murez: Development projects when it's an automatic street dedication requirement.

2639
05:11:04.780 --> 05:11:12.390
jim murez: That's not necessarily because the street needs to be widened at that point to improve the community.

2640
05:11:12.550 --> 05:11:17.380
jim murez: The 2,035 mobility transportation plan several years ago

2641
05:11:17.550 --> 05:11:25.780
jim murez: identify that all the streets in Los Angeles need to comply to the street standards that existed

2642
05:11:25.930 --> 05:11:30.130
jim murez: for the city of Los Angeles. But Venice was developed

2643
05:11:30.470 --> 05:11:35.220
jim murez: about 80 years before those standards were created.

2644
05:11:35.490 --> 05:11:43.350
jim murez: and 95 of the streets in Venice do not conform to the current street standards

2645
05:11:43.470 --> 05:11:48.910
jim murez: so anybody that developed something that requires a track map. Dedication

2646
05:11:48.920 --> 05:11:57.290
jim murez: is automatically required to do this strange curb cut and reduce the amount of parkway which reduces the green space.

2647
05:11:57.310 --> 05:12:07.510
jim murez: and, like that motion says, sometimes move all sorts of other utilities, which add a tremendous amount of additional cost. It's not necessarily a benefit

2648
05:12:08.220 --> 05:12:13.940
jim murez: to have this be automatic. It's not saying that a project like the Median project

2649
05:12:14.070 --> 05:12:17.640
jim murez: would not have to have the dedication that's required there.

2650
05:12:17.760 --> 05:12:31.370
jim murez: because that is a a an undersized street for the designation of the street. and it's very clear that the rest of Venice Boulevard has already been widened to improve the sidewalks. What we're talking about is the neighborhood of oakwood.

2651
05:12:31.540 --> 05:12:36.400
jim murez: Do we really want to have all the Oakwood streets turned into massive

2652
05:12:36.470 --> 05:12:46.500
jim murez: large chord, or the size of brooks or larger brooks, is actually one of the streets that would have to still be wide and based on the designations for that street.

2653
05:12:46.500 --> 05:13:07.310
jim murez: So to immediately say, we want to oppose this concept that it should still continue to be automatic to me is very much outside the the understanding that I have of what people want to see in Venice, which is to keep our neighborhood more of a quaint neighborhood of its original design.

2654
05:13:07.420 --> 05:13:12.900
jim murez: What this is saying is, let's retain the ability to keep it quaint neighborhood.

2655
05:13:12.980 --> 05:13:17.700
jim murez: not take it away and turn it into major highways like the rest of the city.

2656
05:13:18.400 --> 05:13:28.880
jim murez: Now I will turn the comments over to the rest of the committee that you all can make your, but I happen to have a lot of knowledge about this one. So I wanted to get that out. Mike. Go ahead.

2657
05:13:29.540 --> 05:13:44.200
Mike Bravo: Yeah, I read the the actual city council file, and it sounds pretty pretty positive in terms of benefit in the public safety. And also just because things are written in the the Jena Doesn't mean that they're actually

2658
05:13:44.230 --> 05:13:46.040
Mike Bravo: their actual facts. So

2659
05:13:46.090 --> 05:13:50.530
Mike Bravo: it's like a very developer centric motion, and i'll be voting against it.

2660
05:13:51.560 --> 05:13:54.290
jim murez: Okay, Thank you, Mike Nico. Go ahead.

2661
05:13:57.400 --> 05:14:08.660
Nico Ruderman: Yeah, I I understand the concerns about this being developer centric. But I I mean, I have to echo that to me. I i'll be voting yes, for this. But but the the reasons i'm voting yes for it are are, because

2662
05:14:08.940 --> 05:14:14.730
Nico Ruderman: you know the narrow streets, and in Oakwood in particular, forced cars to drive slower

2663
05:14:14.860 --> 05:14:23.520
Nico Ruderman: it. It it. It makes the neighborhood safer. and you know the the of of

2664
05:14:24.540 --> 05:14:30.470
losing Parkway space and and some which hurts our urban canopy is is also a a big issue.

2665
05:14:30.660 --> 05:14:36.420
Nico Ruderman: You know that, regardless of what the the reasons some people support this, you know my reasons are.

2666
05:14:36.490 --> 05:14:49.070
Nico Ruderman: you know, public safety less less traffic through our through our neighborhood. and supporting the parkways so we can plant more trees. I I I think this is a

2667
05:14:49.210 --> 05:14:55.400
Nico Ruderman: you know, a a great thing for for Oakwood in particular. Thanks.

2668
05:14:57.310 --> 05:15:05.670
jim murez: Lower your hands if you want. I take you last because you were kind of the on this. I i'll come back to you. Okay. Jay, go ahead

2669
05:15:06.840 --> 05:15:11.930
jay handal: so I can tell you. In the West Valley Neighborhood Council. We have

2670
05:15:12.220 --> 05:15:23.820
jay handal: voted against the automatic street dedications. and every time a project has gone through our loop and through our

2671
05:15:24.000 --> 05:15:25.360
jay handal: board

2672
05:15:25.410 --> 05:15:28.910
jay handal: we have voted against the widening.

2673
05:15:29.310 --> 05:15:42.150
jay handal: and one of the big reasons quite honestly is it's done developer by by Develop our house by house. and it looks like a roller coaster, and by the time they actually get one entire block

2674
05:15:42.330 --> 05:15:50.270
jay handal: to look the same. It could be decades and decades later, and it just it's just ridiculous. It makes no sense.

2675
05:15:50.470 --> 05:15:55.500
jay handal: So you know that spot widening it. It's not consistent.

2676
05:15:55.580 --> 05:16:03.940
jay handal: It's not funded by anybody but a developer. and quite frankly it just opens up, you know, if they widen it, then it's more traffic.

2677
05:16:03.990 --> 05:16:15.610
jay handal: And in most cases cities today are trying to do like Culver City did downtown, and that's wide and sidewalks, and, you know, put more trees, give more availability for pedestrian Oriented districts.

2678
05:16:15.670 --> 05:16:23.710
jay handal: So you know I I support ending automatic street dedications and look at them on a case by case basis.

2679
05:16:24.230 --> 05:16:26.210
jim murez: Thank you, Jake Michael. Go ahead.

2680
05:16:27.500 --> 05:16:37.860
Michael Jensen: Thanks. I I think it's to just clarify, because some of the public comments seemed wild on this. This was not out of my committee.

2681
05:16:38.060 --> 05:16:42.450
jim murez: Which committee is that just so, we're clear

2682
05:16:42.750 --> 05:16:48.500
Michael Jensen: the land use and planning committee, and I I think what might maybe

2683
05:16:48.950 --> 05:16:54.800
Michael Jensen: you know this this is not some nefarious well, at least in my mind. It doesn't, and I think what might might help

2684
05:16:54.940 --> 05:16:57.400
Michael Jensen: sort of put this in

2685
05:16:57.600 --> 05:17:07.220
Michael Jensen: like context, for someone is, if you look at like, there's a Fourth Street or on I think it's Santa Clara or the other diagonal.

2686
05:17:07.350 --> 05:17:13.610
Michael Jensen: There are these kinks in the roadway, and you can see where this has been done.

2687
05:17:13.620 --> 05:17:26.190
Michael Jensen: where, magically the the grass that would sit between the sidewalk and the curve suddenly shrinks. And that's what this is not like giving the property to the house.

2688
05:17:26.290 --> 05:17:38.800
Michael Jensen: Their their property line, or their area to build does not move. The only thing this does is is create more street and less green or sidewalk.

2689
05:17:38.920 --> 05:17:53.270
Michael Jensen: And so, I think, for everyone who thinks this is some kind of top secret development play. In reality, what's going on here is making it more, I think, walkable. And

2690
05:17:53.360 --> 05:17:54.170
Michael Jensen: you know

2691
05:17:54.560 --> 05:18:02.460
Michael Jensen: aesthetically pleasing streetscape. and that's that's my I mean, I support this. I think it.

2692
05:18:02.510 --> 05:18:03.090
Michael Jensen: It.

2693
05:18:03.340 --> 05:18:08.030
Michael Jensen: It makes sense, Robert, if you wanna

2694
05:18:08.090 --> 05:18:09.740
Michael Jensen: go next, that's my comment.

2695
05:18:11.390 --> 05:18:14.220
Michael Jensen: or correct anything. I said that My.

2696
05:18:14.310 --> 05:18:15.060
robertthibodeau: it's

2697
05:18:15.100 --> 05:18:20.330
robertthibodeau: you want me. Let me call on Alley for Sally. Go ahead.

2698
05:18:20.370 --> 05:18:29.930
Alley Bean: Well, there's actually a question. Oh, sorry i'll put on my video. This is a question for Robert, Just because I don't understand it. Why do? Why does it cost a developer money

2699
05:18:30.110 --> 05:18:33.460
Alley Bean: to make that cut? Why does that affect

2700
05:18:33.530 --> 05:18:34.360
Alley Bean: the

2701
05:18:35.010 --> 05:18:46.610
Alley Bean: the the person lives in the house if it doesn't affect their property line, or anything like that. So cause I read your thing. But I was wondering what what's Where's the the money spent that you you were.

2702
05:18:47.080 --> 05:19:02.390
robertthibodeau: You said it cost developers like somewhat expensive proposition this wasn't

2703
05:19:02.440 --> 05:19:06.130
robertthibodeau: the language about the cost and stuff.

2704
05:19:06.620 --> 05:19:12.690
robertthibodeau: with something that came out of committee. I probably didn't generate that myself. There are

2705
05:19:13.120 --> 05:19:26.060
robertthibodeau: there, are They'll still require street lighting if it's required. So if you if you live on a dark street. they'll still require additional street lighting. This Isn't doesn't affect that they can require

2706
05:19:26.290 --> 05:19:38.490
robertthibodeau: sometimes drainage. Sometimes they'll make you put in drains. and though if your sidewalks in bad shape, they'll require you to replace this sidewalk.

2707
05:19:38.950 --> 05:19:43.460
robertthibodeau: and what else can they require you to do?

2708
05:19:43.810 --> 05:19:50.310
robertthibodeau: There's there's there's various things that aren't affected by this. So those those aren't, those don't just magically go away.

2709
05:19:50.430 --> 05:19:53.630
robertthibodeau: I think the point that I was going to make is that

2710
05:19:53.770 --> 05:20:04.870
robertthibodeau: when you have these cuttings you actually lose street barking. So i'm not sure if you guys have tried to park in these things before. There's one at the end of palms by by the hardware store.

2711
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robertthibodeau: There's one on Abbott Kenny across from where zinc used to be.

2712
05:20:10.340 --> 05:20:14.860
robertthibodeau: They're very difficult to park in, because because of the angle

2713
05:20:15.570 --> 05:20:21.140
robertthibodeau: you you actually lose street parking. So when you do this you lose street parking.

2714
05:20:21.360 --> 05:20:25.750
robertthibodeau: and the thing that surprises me on the people spoken against. It

2715
05:20:26.100 --> 05:20:29.320
robertthibodeau: is, one could make the argument that the

2716
05:20:29.430 --> 05:20:31.650
robertthibodeau: sort of narrow streets

2717
05:20:31.750 --> 05:20:34.850
robertthibodeau: and the quaint side walks

2718
05:20:35.180 --> 05:20:41.640
robertthibodeau: are part of the character of Venice. The street widening

2719
05:20:42.450 --> 05:21:00.700
robertthibodeau: where I live, and there's currently. We have currently, I think, 6 foot wide sidewalks. They want 12 foot wide sidewalks 12 foot wide, sidewalks wider than Ab Kenny. It's it's frankly it's probably wider than Lincoln. The sidewalks on Lincoln right now, and I live on a small 2 block street. So

2720
05:21:00.890 --> 05:21:13.350
robertthibodeau: the I think the issue is that the the standards they've got the sort of one size fits all standard for all of Los Angeles which might be perfectly normal.

2721
05:21:13.380 --> 05:21:16.880
robertthibodeau: say in you know, bigger blocks, and in.

2722
05:21:16.930 --> 05:21:20.760
robertthibodeau: or or Sherman Oaks, or something like that.

2723
05:21:20.920 --> 05:21:31.790
robertthibodeau: It's kind of bizarre to impose a standards automatically in Venice. and also have the net loss of parking. There's not really

2724
05:21:31.910 --> 05:21:45.520
robertthibodeau: a huge financial boon for developers off of this. It's more just sort of trying to decide if this is the right thing for Venice or not. Honestly, this is a citywide motion. So somebody else in the city

2725
05:21:45.910 --> 05:21:54.480
robertthibodeau: decided that this was no good. This isn't coming originally from us. This is just a community impact statement of whether we want to go along with it or not.

2726
05:21:54.660 --> 05:22:02.800
robertthibodeau: So if you take the one size fits all standard is a good thing for Venice. Then vote against this. If you think the one size fits, all standard

2727
05:22:02.870 --> 05:22:08.470
robertthibodeau: is not. Maybe you know a great thing for Venice and vote against it, but

2728
05:22:08.940 --> 05:22:13.720
robertthibodeau: I I mean to vote for it, because that's what this is. This is agreeing with

2729
05:22:13.930 --> 05:22:23.510
robertthibodeau: city counts, or the citywide City Council motion that's already in play, frankly may have already been heard again, because this was voted on in my committee. I think

2730
05:22:24.580 --> 05:22:31.550
robertthibodeau: this might have been 6 weeks ago or something, but you know, anyways, doesn't hurt to vote on it.

2731
05:22:32.570 --> 05:22:39.960
jim murez: Okay, thank you, Ali: I'm: assuming you're going to put your hand down. Let's take a vote. Yeah. we've heard plenty.

2732
05:22:42.860 --> 05:22:45.890
jim murez: I'm going to vote. Yes.

2733
05:22:49.540 --> 05:22:51.460
jay handal: Jay: yes.

2734
05:22:51.640 --> 05:22:53.270
Vicki Halliday: Vicky. Yes.

2735
05:22:53.620 --> 05:22:56.330
jim murez: Ruda. Yes, Sima.

2736
05:22:57.420 --> 05:22:59.790
robertthibodeau: And she left yeah, Nico.

2737
05:23:00.200 --> 05:23:01.020
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

2738
05:23:02.430 --> 05:23:03.560
jim murez: Jim Rob.

2739
05:23:03.840 --> 05:23:04.570
Jim Robb: Now

2740
05:23:05.890 --> 05:23:07.030
Jim Robb: Sorry, Robert

2741
05:23:11.060 --> 05:23:12.250
jim murez: Jason.

2742
05:23:12.760 --> 05:23:13.600
Jason Sugars: So

2743
05:23:15.230 --> 05:23:16.090
jim murez: alli

2744
05:23:16.230 --> 05:23:17.100
Alley Bean: no

2745
05:23:18.610 --> 05:23:19.590
jim murez: got it.

2746
05:23:20.800 --> 05:23:21.670
jim murez: Mike.

2747
05:23:22.260 --> 05:23:23.010
Mike Bravo: No.

2748
05:23:23.590 --> 05:23:24.700
jim murez: So with that

2749
05:23:25.020 --> 05:23:28.260
robertthibodeau: he's gone to. Yeah. Cj.

2750
05:23:29.870 --> 05:23:31.740
robertthibodeau: Robert. Yes.

2751
05:23:32.090 --> 05:23:33.860
Clark Brown: Clark. Yes.

2752
05:23:34.270 --> 05:23:35.640
jim murez: Mike Michael.

2753
05:23:36.260 --> 05:23:37.020
Michael Jensen: Yes.

2754
05:23:37.450 --> 05:23:38.350
jim murez: Patrick.

2755
05:23:38.400 --> 05:23:39.220
Patrick McKinley: Yes.

2756
05:23:40.610 --> 05:23:43.930
jim murez: motion carries 15, 0.

2757
05:23:47.900 --> 05:23:52.960
jim murez: Okay. Next one over night. Vehicle ordinance.

2758
05:23:53.950 --> 05:24:01.700
robertthibodeau: This one's specifically for brooks in this one with solid dads. But she signed out.

2759
05:24:02.700 --> 05:24:10.030
jim murez: So do you want to do that? Well, I think we just go forward. What? Go ahead. I think you and I would need to recuse on this one.

2760
05:24:12.820 --> 05:24:14.660
jim murez: Sure 5, You know

2761
05:24:15.130 --> 05:24:21.760
Daffodil Tyminski: they're all baseball to hit the spot.

2762
05:24:21.970 --> 05:24:25.200
jim murez: It's not. Did I have no financial benefit from it?

2763
05:24:27.730 --> 05:24:33.030
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay? Well, I'm going to refuse myself on this one.

2764
05:24:33.640 --> 05:24:37.390
jim murez: Well, I need to conduct the meeting. At any rate, Robert.

2765
05:24:39.860 --> 05:24:50.350
robertthibodeau: do you want me to read the motion? Do we have. We have a quorum after you guys recuse anybody around the brooks have area.

2766
05:24:50.800 --> 05:24:54.160
Michael Jensen: Brooks have area mean brooks in May.

2767
05:24:54.500 --> 05:25:03.710
robertthibodeau: It's it's basically brooks in Maine.

2768
05:25:04.770 --> 05:25:06.560
I'm: yeah, I'm gonna check right now.

2769
05:25:07.970 --> 05:25:19.460
robertthibodeau: Anyways, i'll read the motion while you figure that. Because let's get. I want to get done with this stuff. This was brought to us by a solid add, Who's petitioning

2770
05:25:19.890 --> 05:25:31.870
robertthibodeau: the board of Officers, write a letter to CD. 11 in support of the neighbors effort to obtain opioid parking signage in conformance with L Amc.

2771
05:25:32.160 --> 05:25:37.180
robertthibodeau: 8, 0 dot, 6, 9 dot 4 on all east-west streets

2772
05:25:37.290 --> 05:25:41.450
robertthibodeau: that are narrow and non-conforming between Main and Pacific

2773
05:25:42.020 --> 05:25:45.310
robertthibodeau: that do not currently have signage.

2774
05:25:45.760 --> 05:25:47.420
Vicki Halliday: I him I'll second.

2775
05:25:48.290 --> 05:25:52.510
robertthibodeau: Oh, so you would definitely be in here, Mikhail.

2776
05:25:53.680 --> 05:26:07.100
robertthibodeau: Is it all of Main Street? You know it was originally. It was originally just for the 2 blocks of brooks between Maine and

2777
05:26:08.040 --> 05:26:09.560
robertthibodeau: and they expanded it.

2778
05:26:10.220 --> 05:26:11.190
Vicki Halliday: Oh.

2779
05:26:11.700 --> 05:26:19.060
robertthibodeau: you're out to Vicky. I don't think we're gonna have a quorum unless it's one of those general street ones that you're allowed to vote on.

2780
05:26:20.970 --> 05:26:31.700
robertthibodeau: So maybe what we should do is send it back to committee for clarification. Yeah. okay, let's do that, plus. We had all the other ones that we voted on, anyways.

2781
05:26:31.810 --> 05:26:39.520
Alley Bean: Yeah, I think i'd have to accuse myself.

2782
05:26:39.660 --> 05:26:43.240
robertthibodeau: You know that's a good question. With that alley

2783
05:26:43.330 --> 05:26:50.520
robertthibodeau: we we kind of did. You gotta realize this is 3 months worth of emotions that are sort of coming at you. So things kind of overlapped

2784
05:26:50.800 --> 05:26:53.240
robertthibodeau: because they got built up in the system.

2785
05:26:53.300 --> 05:26:56.450
robertthibodeau: We had problems with the

2786
05:26:56.750 --> 05:27:04.000
jim murez: with the online portal thing.

2787
05:27:05.300 --> 05:27:12.950
Ivan: Jim, could somebody please? If you're going to postpone it, Can someone please contact the city attorney

2788
05:27:12.980 --> 05:27:14.710
Ivan: and get a ruling from them?

2789
05:27:15.380 --> 05:27:21.550
robertthibodeau: Yeah, do we need to make a motion to postpone rather than discussing it, to get a room from them.

2790
05:27:21.620 --> 05:27:24.080
Ivan: But you know, do it now you have a month

2791
05:27:25.230 --> 05:27:26.500
robertthibodeau: on who can vote.

2792
05:27:26.800 --> 05:27:32.390
jim murez: Well, we're returning it to the committee. We can do that. We can do that from the committee. Okay.

2793
05:27:32.520 --> 05:27:34.360
Ivan: Okay, yeah, Thank you.

2794
05:27:35.840 --> 05:27:37.300
Daffodil Tyminski: All right. I'm back

2795
05:27:37.310 --> 05:27:45.200
jim murez: la, 28. This is you funding request to provide for youth sports programs in Venice.

2796
05:27:48.230 --> 05:27:58.680
Daffodil Tyminski: I can sure basically along the lines with the Olympic things we're talking about earlier. There's a round of funding that's going to open up

2797
05:27:59.350 --> 05:28:02.200
Daffodil Tyminski: on this Budget cycle for the year

2798
05:28:02.250 --> 05:28:05.470
Daffodil Tyminski: for the city, however, because

2799
05:28:05.660 --> 05:28:12.200
Daffodil Tyminski: under Bon and they refused to dedicate any sites in Venice. Venice was not included in all of the funding

2800
05:28:12.860 --> 05:28:24.050
Daffodil Tyminski: there. I can give more explanation, if you like, but basically there is a community. There is a request made. It's in the motion.

2801
05:28:24.380 --> 05:28:30.320
Daffodil Tyminski: The Board of Recreation and Park Commissioners request the City Council to authorize.

2802
05:28:30.480 --> 05:28:31.300
Daffodil Tyminski: and

2803
05:28:31.560 --> 05:28:38.230
Daffodil Tyminski: I just read the motion. Sorry i'm just having trouble with my throat

2804
05:28:38.370 --> 05:28:41.540
Daffodil Tyminski: authorize to approve

2805
05:28:42.270 --> 05:28:55.270
Daffodil Tyminski: our a. P. Fiscal year 2,02324 project plan. Authorize our IP to accept and receive funding allocation from the Los Angeles Organizing Committee for the 2020 olympic and paralympic games la 2,028

2806
05:28:55.460 --> 05:29:01.930
Daffodil Tyminski: in the amount of $18,465,802 is outlined in the project plan.

2807
05:29:02.140 --> 05:29:08.450
Daffodil Tyminski: This motion is asking that the Vnc. Submit a cis and support of the Council file.

2808
05:29:08.530 --> 05:29:10.920
There are 5 potential sites

2809
05:29:11.050 --> 05:29:14.380
Daffodil Tyminski: that could receive money in Venice

2810
05:29:14.500 --> 05:29:28.450
Daffodil Tyminski: to develop youth games and other ancillary programming. That is part of the promised deal with La 28, so this would be ramping up to the olympics. And Those sites are

2811
05:29:28.680 --> 05:29:33.430
Daffodil Tyminski: Venice High School, Penmar oak wood and ocean front walk.

2812
05:29:34.790 --> 05:29:40.760
jim murez: Let me get a second I'd love to.

2813
05:29:41.240 --> 05:29:44.540
jim murez: and if you, if you read the

2814
05:29:44.780 --> 05:29:52.810
jim murez: the the Council file, it actually did the the record Parks motion does specify locations and

2815
05:29:52.870 --> 05:29:59.090
jim murez: the youth programs that would be provided funding to do things like, learn how to serve.

2816
05:29:59.140 --> 05:30:00.530
jim murez: And and

2817
05:30:00.600 --> 05:30:14.150
jim murez: you know there's all kinds of swimming programs and track and fields, all kinds of different programs involved in here for all different age groups of kids. Yeah. So let's let's take public comment on this unless somebody has a question about it.

2818
05:30:16.040 --> 05:30:16.810
Daffodil Tyminski: Sure

2819
05:30:17.430 --> 05:30:21.690
Daffodil Tyminski: we do. We actually do have some hands.

2820
05:30:21.730 --> 05:30:23.570
Lisa Redmond go ahead.

2821
05:30:26.450 --> 05:30:28.730
Lisa Redmond: Sorry I didn't lower my hand from the last one.

2822
05:30:30.960 --> 05:30:34.770
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Shauna Brian, Go ahead.

2823
05:30:35.540 --> 05:30:40.200
Sean Obrien: Yeah, we have so many activities that can be supported by this.

2824
05:30:40.230 --> 05:30:41.740
Sean Obrien: Please support it. Thank you.

2825
05:30:43.420 --> 05:30:46.000
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Shawn. Jill Crosby, go ahead.

2826
05:30:47.530 --> 05:31:02.050
Jill Crosby: I totally support this, and in a city that is spending billions and billions of dollars on homelessness, I feel like what we need to do is really start to usurp that by spending billions and billions of dollars on education in our youth.

2827
05:31:02.050 --> 05:31:10.660
Jill Crosby: I think that's the best way to cleave off part of the problem. So this is this is a drop in the bucket compared to what we should be spending. Thanks

2828
05:31:11.480 --> 05:31:12.570
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks. So.

2829
05:31:14.270 --> 05:31:15.800
Helen Felon, go ahead.

2830
05:31:17.310 --> 05:31:30.410
Helen Fallon: Yeah. I just want to clear for everyone in the public because I did take the time to read this and all the supporting documents. This money, the 18 million is not for Venice at all. It's a tranche of money of a large bigger pot.

2831
05:31:30.570 --> 05:31:38.750
Helen Fallon: We are scheduled further down. So we're not getting money in Venice, and the 2,324 budget which is what this 18 million dollars!

2832
05:31:38.810 --> 05:31:40.860
Helen Fallon: It's been already allocated to

2833
05:31:41.040 --> 05:32:00.190
Helen Fallon: what we need to be doing is looking. Are they allocating enough to this in the future? Budgets in the future money that will be coming and being dispersed out throughout. La. And so let's not get confused here and think we're going to see anything happening for 2324, because that's not what this money is about at all.

2834
05:32:00.320 --> 05:32:10.760
Helen Fallon: It's about. It's already been allocated. If you go and look at all the supporting documents. it's all over the valley. It's lots of places getting money. There are things further down the line that are in Venice.

2835
05:32:10.880 --> 05:32:20.390
Helen Fallon: If we want more than that, that's what we need to be talking about. So I think this is kind of a move thing like Why would we be against the city taking this money to do improvements in other places.

2836
05:32:21.380 --> 05:32:22.680
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. Helen.

2837
05:32:23.060 --> 05:32:25.400
Daffodil Tyminski: Colony W: Go ahead.

2838
05:32:30.520 --> 05:32:31.120
CJ Cole: Hmm.

2839
05:32:33.140 --> 05:32:41.620
Kalani W: Thank you. I'm Thank you for the unmuting. I support this motion. I did want to add, though

2840
05:32:41.680 --> 05:32:44.900
Kalani W: This is how Bonn hurt us.

2841
05:32:45.360 --> 05:32:57.960
Kalani W: And let me remind everyone who is a Democrat here. Bonnan is now running to lead in the Democratic party in California, so he can appoint more bonnans

2842
05:32:58.200 --> 05:33:00.520
Kalani W: throughout our city.

2843
05:33:00.870 --> 05:33:04.440
Kalani W: Aaron Darling is doing the same. trying to get

2844
05:33:05.060 --> 05:33:09.420
Kalani W: slates elected in neighborhood councils throughout.

2845
05:33:10.010 --> 05:33:11.480
So beware!

2846
05:33:12.130 --> 05:33:13.700
Kalani W: Bonnin is

2847
05:33:13.710 --> 05:33:23.910
Kalani W: and his mindset will haunt us for decades. So we need to push back. If anyone is a Democrat contact you

2848
05:33:23.940 --> 05:33:39.280
Kalani W: Democratic party and let them know that you oppose Bonnin being appointed to anything in the Democratic party because he's gonna a a funnel money to like minded politicians like himself. Thank you.

2849
05:33:40.060 --> 05:33:41.460
Daffodil Tyminski: thank you.

2850
05:33:41.920 --> 05:33:47.920
Daffodil Tyminski: And last, but not least, developer, and we'll close comment after that.

2851
05:33:50.160 --> 05:33:51.690
Yes, that's good.

2852
05:33:51.790 --> 05:33:55.070
- ni developer: They They let capital get out of the garage.

2853
05:33:55.260 --> 05:34:08.610
- ni developer: I'm in press. Yes. And then, of course. you know that all of this money was gonna go to the to the San Fernando Valley. This was gonna be our Nouri Martinez

2854
05:34:09.020 --> 05:34:19.730
- ni developer: flush fun for the support of the basement. They were going to build a football practice stadium and then sell it to the Rabs after the Olympics.

2855
05:34:19.910 --> 05:34:22.590
- ni developer: But then that little tape came out.

2856
05:34:23.610 --> 05:34:26.190
- ni developer: Yeah, so to stop the whole plan.

2857
05:34:26.380 --> 05:34:32.990
- ni developer: No, the whole city will share in this hundreds of millions of dollars of money.

2858
05:34:33.180 --> 05:34:44.140
- ni developer: And yes, Mike Bon, and you're out there, Aren't, you! Everybody hates Mike Bottom. His mother hates them. This entire board hates them.

2859
05:34:44.260 --> 05:34:46.360
- ni developer: So we want to make a motion

2860
05:34:46.370 --> 05:34:51.290
- ni developer: that everybody on this board hates Mike Bonn for taking.

2861
05:34:57.090 --> 05:35:01.340
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Developer Jim. With that will close public comment.

2862
05:35:02.430 --> 05:35:08.290
jim murez: Okay, public comment is closed. Do we have any other. Oh, I see.

2863
05:35:15.310 --> 05:35:21.670
jim murez: Yeah, do we have? Do you have any comments? Anybody have any comments? Go ahead?

2864
05:35:22.540 --> 05:35:30.950
Daffodil Tyminski: Yeah, I so it's my understanding from talking to folks in the city. That the reason why Venice sites are not on here is because on an

2865
05:35:30.990 --> 05:35:34.260
Daffodil Tyminski: was not agreeing to have activities in Venice.

2866
05:35:34.370 --> 05:35:38.110
Daffodil Tyminski: but it's not to say that they can't be or can't benefit from this funding.

2867
05:35:38.290 --> 05:35:42.850
Daffodil Tyminski: and is particularly with the surf and skate programs.

2868
05:35:43.130 --> 05:36:02.890
Daffodil Tyminski: It's one of the only places where those that programming is identified as in Venice. So this particular motion that was prepared, or at least was developed while Bonn was still our Council person doesn't mention Venice, but it's not to say that the money can't go here. It's not all been earmarked and spent, and all of that. There's plenty of room

2869
05:36:02.890 --> 05:36:06.790
Daffodil Tyminski: for us to access some. Okay.

2870
05:36:06.960 --> 05:36:08.760
jim murez: anybody else have a comment.

2871
05:36:10.380 --> 05:36:13.830
jim murez: Let's take a boat. If everybody could turn on there.

2872
05:36:14.460 --> 05:36:18.380
jim murez: Microphones, i'm going to go ahead and vote. Yes.

2873
05:36:20.500 --> 05:36:21.450
Daffodil Tyminski: yes.

2874
05:36:22.370 --> 05:36:23.370
jim murez: Jay

2875
05:36:29.700 --> 05:36:31.240
Vicki Halliday: Vicki. Yes.

2876
05:36:31.690 --> 05:36:33.280
jim murez: Bruno. Yes.

2877
05:36:36.400 --> 05:36:37.180
Nico Ruderman: yes.

2878
05:36:37.850 --> 05:36:39.690
Jim Robb: Jim Rob. Yes.

2879
05:36:39.870 --> 05:36:40.950
jim murez: Jason.

2880
05:36:41.470 --> 05:36:42.310
Jason Sugars: Yes.

2881
05:36:42.530 --> 05:36:44.250
Alley Bean: yes.

2882
05:36:44.330 --> 05:36:46.840
jim murez: Kai Mike.

2883
05:36:47.120 --> 05:36:48.050
Mike Bravo: Yes.

2884
05:36:49.270 --> 05:36:51.180
CJ Cole: Cj. S.

2885
05:36:52.500 --> 05:36:54.180
robertthibodeau: Robert. Yes.

2886
05:36:54.600 --> 05:36:56.240
Clark Brown: Clark. Yes.

2887
05:36:56.800 --> 05:36:58.490
jim murez: Mikhail.

2888
05:36:59.170 --> 05:37:01.960
Michael Jensen: Yeah.

2889
05:37:02.550 --> 05:37:09.010
jim murez: And did I miss anybody that's here? J: how do you vote?

2890
05:37:09.290 --> 05:37:11.240
jay handal: Yes. Okay.

2891
05:37:14.410 --> 05:37:16.890
jim murez: Motion carries 15 0 0.

2892
05:37:18.490 --> 05:37:20.140
jim murez: Next one

2893
05:37:20.380 --> 05:37:22.220
jim murez: request that

2894
05:37:22.940 --> 05:37:29.400
jim murez: Council Office considered sites for Olympic athletes in Venice.

2895
05:37:29.570 --> 05:37:33.530
jim murez: This was brought to us by the neighborhood Committee.

2896
05:37:34.030 --> 05:37:35.700
jim murez: Daffodil.

2897
05:37:36.710 --> 05:37:38.280
Daffodil Tyminski: Yeah, to

2898
05:37:38.820 --> 05:37:40.170
Jim Robb: make the motion

2899
05:37:40.680 --> 05:37:52.000
Daffodil Tyminski: sure, and this was intended to be in tandem with the other motion, in the sense that we want to get Venice back on the radar as part of the Olympics. We've been working on this for a while in the Neighborhood Committee.

2900
05:37:52.640 --> 05:38:04.240
Daffodil Tyminski: and we just need to get the ball rolling. So the motion is the Venice Neighborhood Council request that the CD. 11 Olympic working group. Look at citing La 28 activities in Venice.

2901
05:38:04.690 --> 05:38:06.530
jim murez: and can we get a second on that

2902
05:38:07.020 --> 05:38:08.610
Michael Jensen: second second it.

2903
05:38:08.780 --> 05:38:12.820
Michael Jensen: Oh, I may. I might have the kiss of death, though, so maybe you don't want me to second, or

2904
05:38:13.140 --> 05:38:18.560
jim murez: Robert was the one that spoke first. I'll let him have it Anybody have public comment on this item?

2905
05:38:19.160 --> 05:38:24.750
Daffodil Tyminski: We do have a few hands raised. Jill Crosby, Go ahead.

2906
05:38:25.040 --> 05:38:29.000
Jill Crosby: Have My! Am I unmuted?

2907
05:38:29.880 --> 05:38:39.540
jim murez: Yeah. But I gotta get to the camera, and then they can't get rid of this task for thinking the top

2908
05:38:39.590 --> 05:38:40.400
This there.

2909
05:38:44.330 --> 05:38:47.370
Jill Crosby: Hello, okay, yeah, go ahead.

2910
05:38:47.590 --> 05:38:56.560
Jill Crosby: Okay, thanks again. I think that that absolutely I want to see the Olympics come to Venice. I'm so proud of Venice. I think it's.

2911
05:38:56.700 --> 05:39:21.390
Jill Crosby: You know it's world renowned. I think it would be amazing to host stuff here. But again I have to think about Enforcement for parking ov085-02-4118 like we really need to establish some something for the residents and the stakeholders in Venice that protects us from just having an onslaught of people who could just show up, and

2912
05:39:21.530 --> 05:39:25.810
Jill Crosby: you know no one's enforcing anything. Nothing is

2913
05:39:25.890 --> 05:39:34.670
Jill Crosby: is, you know it's just it's just the Wild West. We just need something in place before we can start just going for that kind of stuff. Thanks.

2914
05:39:37.710 --> 05:39:40.840
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Jill. Columbia W. Go ahead.

2915
05:39:50.120 --> 05:39:56.740
Kalani W: As I stated earlier, I oppose having the Olympics, but since we have to live with it. So be it.

2916
05:39:57.130 --> 05:40:04.680
Kalani W: I am. Oh. I do not oppose having events in Venice. I do oppose having

2917
05:40:05.960 --> 05:40:17.110
Kalani W: athlete athletic housing in Venice, then this is an expensive area. I think all the athletes should be housed in the athletes village.

2918
05:40:18.680 --> 05:40:26.720
Kalani W: Not all athletes are great. Remember the incident in Rio de Janeiro with with Ryan Lockdie. So

2919
05:40:26.950 --> 05:40:38.980
Kalani W: you know we do not need to house athletes in Venice. We can have. We can have events inventors, but the athletes can stay in the Olympic village. Thank you.

2920
05:40:40.810 --> 05:40:41.960
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

2921
05:40:42.320 --> 05:40:44.230
Daffodil Tyminski: developer.

2922
05:40:44.340 --> 05:40:45.280
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

2923
05:40:46.880 --> 05:40:51.340
- ni developer: Yes, that's right. And since somebody checked out my bonnet

2924
05:40:51.530 --> 05:40:56.090
- ni developer: Yes, he's on Twitter. Oh, no, yes.

2925
05:40:56.280 --> 05:40:59.840
He seems very interested in the Jose. We's our trial.

2926
05:41:00.020 --> 05:41:01.050
- ni developer: Check it out with your

2927
05:41:03.080 --> 05:41:13.830
- ni developer: now as we get to this one. Yes, do we want this kind of housing. No, we don't want that. We want the Olympic village.

2928
05:41:13.850 --> 05:41:15.020
- ni developer: and a nice

2929
05:41:15.180 --> 05:41:17.850
- ni developer: cool place for the summer.

2930
05:41:18.380 --> 05:41:21.540
- ni developer: Good puppet recommends to hatch a me.

2931
05:41:22.100 --> 05:41:34.410
- ni developer: What a nice area for an elliptic village! They can go up there and take all the steroids, drugs, prostitutes! Thank you, prostitute, and everything else, and then they

2932
05:41:34.570 --> 05:41:36.700
I have to bother you. Find people

2933
05:41:36.820 --> 05:41:44.960
- ni developer: that's what they do. And remember what's goes on in the Olympic village stays in the Olympic village.

2934
05:41:45.060 --> 05:41:47.080
- ni developer: so yes, jump it away.

2935
05:41:51.280 --> 05:41:54.060
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Shawn O'brien, go ahead.

2936
05:41:56.190 --> 05:41:59.900
Sean Obrien: I believe I attended the neighborhood meeting that this came from.

2937
05:41:59.990 --> 05:42:09.880
Sean Obrien: and we spoke. I I was in favor of having like weightlifting at Muscle Beach. It was raised at that meeting

2938
05:42:09.940 --> 05:42:16.320
Sean Obrien: with bathrooms and capacity might not be a good venue. I'd still like to keep that on the books.

2939
05:42:16.470 --> 05:42:30.580
Sean Obrien: but I was also really championing Marina del Rey for the boating, You know, Rita del Ray, it's got to be the biggest man made Marina and the entire west coast from Alaska down to Chile.

2940
05:42:30.700 --> 05:42:34.200
Sean Obrien: We got world renowned sailing there.

2941
05:42:34.320 --> 05:42:40.200
Sean Obrien: The only other place would be San Diego and San Diego is not Los Angeles.

2942
05:42:40.410 --> 05:42:46.280
Sean Obrien: so maybe we could put the Marina del Ray for sailing activities. Thank you.

2943
05:42:47.420 --> 05:42:48.650
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Shawn.

2944
05:42:50.840 --> 05:42:52.400
Daffodil Tyminski: How on Felon? Go ahead.

2945
05:42:54.280 --> 05:43:03.190
Helen Fallon: Yeah. I think this motion kind of misses the mark because first off Tracy Parks task force for the 28 Olympics

2946
05:43:03.260 --> 05:43:14.520
Helen Fallon: working group. She wants to set up Hasn't had any meetings yet. What you really want is a seat at the table instead of a vague motion about. Well, we want some things here you should be having a motion.

2947
05:43:14.810 --> 05:43:29.420
Helen Fallon: They are. You should decide that you want to have someone appointed to that task force. Someone who will be reporting back will be gathering what the stakeholders want, just like what you've heard Several people here say they're interested in having and collecting that information.

2948
05:43:29.500 --> 05:43:34.640
Helen Fallon: Save yourself some time. Send this back to the neighborhood committee. Get it rewritten, and pass a motion

2949
05:43:34.730 --> 05:43:40.190
Helen Fallon: to just, you know, to ask for people who are interested in being appointed to be.

2950
05:43:40.230 --> 05:43:42.070
Helen Fallon: you know, represent you

2951
05:43:42.180 --> 05:43:50.140
Helen Fallon: at this on this task Force that quick Tracey, setting up it'll be much more efficient. Otherwise you're just sort of off in the periphery.

2952
05:43:50.280 --> 05:43:51.050
Helen Fallon: Thanks.

2953
05:43:53.050 --> 05:43:56.720
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. Erica. More Go ahead.

2954
05:44:00.230 --> 05:44:00.960
Yeah.

2955
05:44:01.960 --> 05:44:19.870
Erica Moore: hey? There, actually, that was a really great idea that Helen shared because it is important that we have a seat at the table. I want to focus on the event of skateboarding. I think that that really does make sense. But I thought that Shawn's mentioned about the Marina was interesting, too.

2956
05:44:20.240 --> 05:44:39.870
Erica Moore: so I you know i'm definitely in support of us, having some sort of event here, and I think that, however, we need to go about to make that happen is what we need to do. Obviously, I don't have all the knowledge about what that's going to take. But I think it would make a lot of sense to have somebody who is in direct contact with Tracy, since she's the one who has

2957
05:44:39.910 --> 05:44:41.620
Erica Moore: that pull for us.

2958
05:44:41.710 --> 05:44:49.810
Erica Moore: So I would encourage you to to get somebody who's in direct contact with them, too. That sounds like a really great idea. I I would love to see an event here. Thank you.

2959
05:44:50.280 --> 05:44:51.080
Michael Jensen: Oh.

2960
05:44:51.160 --> 05:44:54.130
Daffodil Tyminski: thank you. Lisa Redmond. Go ahead.

2961
05:44:57.430 --> 05:45:08.400
Lisa Redmond: Yes, hi! Good evening. 5 and a half hours into the meeting. I just wanted to point out that all my Olympic comments from earlier still stand.

2962
05:45:08.460 --> 05:45:11.700
Lisa Redmond: But I do want to note that

2963
05:45:11.810 --> 05:45:17.240
Lisa Redmond: Why, we are 5 and a half hours into a meeting is, we have so many similar motions on the meeting.

2964
05:45:17.380 --> 05:45:19.250
Lisa Redmond: and this is.

2965
05:45:19.520 --> 05:45:20.980
Lisa Redmond: we need to do better.

2966
05:45:21.000 --> 05:45:29.090
Lisa Redmond: I think we can. This is just because emotions on there doesn't mean it has to apply and add. Con can decide that

2967
05:45:29.630 --> 05:45:36.360
Lisa Redmond: both of these motions, both Olympic motions could have been 1 one could could have been left off. They're basically the same.

2968
05:45:36.610 --> 05:45:50.300
Lisa Redmond: Instead, we spent a half an hour of that to our meeting on Thursday night, rewriting just one motion, so many similar ovo motions. Let's look better at i'm sure everyone here tonight doesn't want to be here this like.

2969
05:45:50.370 --> 05:45:55.630
Lisa Redmond: so maybe we can all look and work together to be better at this in the future. Thank you.

2970
05:45:56.200 --> 05:46:04.030
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Lisa. We have one more person with their hand raised, Robin Mirr, and with Robin's comment we'll close public comment. Go ahead, Robin.

2971
05:46:05.140 --> 05:46:10.020
Robin Murez: Hi! I think Lisa is right, and there is like too much of an effort to

2972
05:46:10.030 --> 05:46:23.380
Robin Murez: maybe prove oneself by getting motions out there. And really, what is needed is some collaboration. I know. When I went to the neighborhood meet Committee and suggested that

2973
05:46:23.420 --> 05:46:25.830
Robin Murez: we collaborate, I was told

2974
05:46:25.920 --> 05:46:38.950
Robin Murez: specifically to stand down, so I would say that's really not the way for a Neighborhood Council to function. and and then specifically regarding this again

2975
05:46:39.080 --> 05:46:51.120
Robin Murez: Jim Meres, even though I'm related to him. He and Melanie Muiras worked on the what is it? The 84 Olympics? In la and I would like to nominate them to

2976
05:46:51.330 --> 05:47:06.820
Robin Murez: be involved in representing Venice's interests. Also, activities having to do with the Olympics include art. There is a lot of cultural activities that come with the Olympics. And so those 2 could be great in Venice.

2977
05:47:06.950 --> 05:47:12.730
Robin Murez: But yeah, these motions are just, you know, spitting into the wind. They're not very concrete.

2978
05:47:14.320 --> 05:47:18.380
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Robin. With that we will close public comment.

2979
05:47:19.460 --> 05:47:36.160
Daffodil Tyminski: I can go first. I can go first, so we've been actually talking about this on the Neighborhood committee for almost a year, and again, as I said before, during that time Venice Hasn't even been part of the conversation.

2980
05:47:36.560 --> 05:47:43.120
Daffodil Tyminski: What has come up in the committee is that is the fact that all kinds of events could possibly incur and Venice.

2981
05:47:43.330 --> 05:47:57.440
Daffodil Tyminski: There had been some talk that some things are going to be very difficult to do here logistically. but other things like Robin mentioned the arts like Sean mentioned weightlifting. There's a whole range of things that could happen in Venice

2982
05:47:57.450 --> 05:48:09.380
Daffodil Tyminski: that would be great to just get us as part of the conversation. When we passed this motion the neighborhood committee had not yet met and passed their skate park motion, so we did not know they were doing that.

2983
05:48:09.930 --> 05:48:12.980
Daffodil Tyminski: I also just have to comment back that.

2984
05:48:13.180 --> 05:48:22.610
Daffodil Tyminski: Robin, You've spread this lie about me, telling you to stand down again and again and again. And in fact, I said to you I would stand down, and I did stand down.

2985
05:48:22.630 --> 05:48:28.400
Daffodil Tyminski: and I never brought back that issue. I never followed through it. I let you do it. I voted for you for it.

2986
05:48:28.520 --> 05:48:34.280
Daffodil Tyminski: and so I would just appreciate if you stop spreading so many lies about me. You've done it in every public form possible.

2987
05:48:34.470 --> 05:48:41.580
Daffodil Tyminski: and it's just getting a little bit ridiculous. So the idea here for this motion is to

2988
05:48:41.700 --> 05:48:54.480
Daffodil Tyminski: get Venice in the conversation. Personally, I would not support telling Tracy who she wants to have on her Olympic working group. I have been in touch with them. They They have a plan.

2989
05:48:54.600 --> 05:49:01.720
Daffodil Tyminski: and I wouldn't force somebody on her. I think, as a council we speak through our emotions, and she listens.

2990
05:49:01.890 --> 05:49:06.970
Daffodil Tyminski: and let her get people with the expertise that she feel she needs. But that's my 2 cents on that.

2991
05:49:08.290 --> 05:49:11.020
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Jim Rob, You have your end up.

2992
05:49:11.200 --> 05:49:12.800
Jim Robb: Yeah, you know.

2993
05:49:12.930 --> 05:49:15.980
Jim Robb: Everybody knows i'm on the Ocean Front committee.

2994
05:49:16.150 --> 05:49:23.930
Jim Robb: and i'm i'm more than happy to do joint meetings. In fact, I would love to. So. you know, I kinda agree with the Robin and

2995
05:49:24.080 --> 05:49:26.900
Jim Robb: Helen and everybody else that all these

2996
05:49:26.910 --> 05:49:37.910
Jim Robb: motions could have been put as one. I know we did it many times, so i'm still putting myself out there. If anybody wants to to. Joint meetings, Robert or Daffodil, or anybody. So

2997
05:49:38.020 --> 05:49:38.840
Jim Robb: thank you.

2998
05:49:39.380 --> 05:49:40.810
jim murez: Thank you, Michael.

2999
05:49:43.900 --> 05:49:52.860
Michael Jensen: Yeah. My observation Justin. I can't remember how many hours ago we voted on a skate park for the Olympics, but that had sort of resounding

3000
05:49:53.370 --> 05:50:04.680
Michael Jensen: support even across ideological lines. And unfortunately, what I hear now is a motion that is in the same spirit, but just sort of bringing out

3001
05:50:04.800 --> 05:50:13.120
Michael Jensen: the worst partisanship people, and I think that's unfortunate. I mean I I support both of these motions. I don't know why we can't support both of them.

3002
05:50:13.210 --> 05:50:14.510
They are

3003
05:50:14.820 --> 05:50:16.060
Michael Jensen: very similar.

3004
05:50:16.150 --> 05:50:29.340
Michael Jensen: The fact that they could have been some combined, short, fair argument. But the fact is, we have 2 separate motions. They are speaking to the same sort of purpose, and so I don't see a reason why we can't have the same kind of unanimous support we have for the last one. Thanks.

3005
05:50:29.800 --> 05:50:31.820
jim murez: Thank you, Michelle Robert. Go ahead.

3006
05:50:35.850 --> 05:50:39.360
robertthibodeau: Yeah, I agree with Mchale. I think

3007
05:50:39.730 --> 05:50:51.560
robertthibodeau: you know. Maybe it is unfortunate that the 2 motions weren't combined into one, and I've had success working with Jim before. Thank you, Jim. We had a couple of good meetings together.

3008
05:50:51.770 --> 05:51:01.910
robertthibodeau: and I don't think there was a anything. you know. This was just another

3009
05:51:02.050 --> 05:51:08.780
robertthibodeau: good attempt to try and get us in the conversation for something that could be extremely exciting for Venice and

3010
05:51:09.330 --> 05:51:15.400
robertthibodeau: and I'm. Looking forward to the Olympics. I think it's going to be great. I hope everybody votes for this.

3011
05:51:16.320 --> 05:51:33.480
jim murez: Thank you. You know. I'll just add one quick point that Hasn't come out. I I was going to add the arts issue, but that came out with Robin and Daffodil. The other issue is, is the the practice that is, the Olympic Committee needs to have practice venues.

3012
05:51:33.480 --> 05:51:43.610
jim murez: and and, for instance, for swimming that is high has been trying to get the pool rebuilt for many years. The Olympic Committee has the money

3013
05:51:43.610 --> 05:51:56.660
jim murez: to help seed that, and if that was to occur it would be a joint project between the city of Los Angeles, the Olympic Committee, and reckon Parks to build an Olympic qualified

3014
05:51:56.810 --> 05:52:08.780
jim murez: practice pool, and that would be a tremendously beneficial thing that could happen. I think that the motion is definitely in the positive right direction. We all want to be voting in support of it.

3015
05:52:08.950 --> 05:52:11.940
jim murez: and on that let's take a about

3016
05:52:15.960 --> 05:52:22.760
jim murez: i'm gonna vote. Yes, and everybody turns on their mics. We can get through this quickly. Daffodil.

3017
05:52:23.380 --> 05:52:24.250
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes.

3018
05:52:24.690 --> 05:52:27.020
jay handal: thank you, Jay. Yes.

3019
05:52:27.230 --> 05:52:28.730
Vicki Halliday: Vicki. Yes.

3020
05:52:28.940 --> 05:52:30.770
jim murez: Yes.

3021
05:52:31.290 --> 05:52:34.940
jim murez: seem. I don't think you're here. If you are. Speak up. Eco.

3022
05:52:36.200 --> 05:52:36.780
Yeah.

3023
05:52:38.390 --> 05:52:39.430
jim murez: Nico.

3024
05:52:40.480 --> 05:52:44.690
jim murez: Wait, Nico: Did you come back?

3025
05:52:44.970 --> 05:52:46.960
Nico Ruderman: Yeah, I'm here.

3026
05:52:47.120 --> 05:52:48.110
jim murez: Thank you.

3027
05:52:50.600 --> 05:52:51.890
jim murez: Jim. Yes.

3028
05:52:53.000 --> 05:52:54.070
jim murez: Jason.

3029
05:52:54.710 --> 05:52:57.470
Alley Bean: Yes, all right.

3030
05:52:58.080 --> 05:53:00.920
jim murez: Kai Mike.

3031
05:53:01.270 --> 05:53:02.240
Mike Bravo: Yes.

3032
05:53:02.460 --> 05:53:03.760
jim murez: So that

3033
05:53:04.110 --> 05:53:06.220
CJ Cole: Cj: Yes.

3034
05:53:06.930 --> 05:53:08.440
robertthibodeau: Robert. Yes.

3035
05:53:09.040 --> 05:53:10.820
Clark Brown: Clark. Yes.

3036
05:53:11.130 --> 05:53:12.340
jim murez: nickel.

3037
05:53:12.830 --> 05:53:13.630
Michael Jensen: Yes.

3038
05:53:14.520 --> 05:53:15.360
jim murez: 2.

3039
05:53:16.510 --> 05:53:25.490
jim murez: It's the wrong button. Patrick. Yes. Okay, motion carries 15 0 0 and this garden tour

3040
05:53:30.110 --> 05:53:34.870
jim murez: another one by neighborhood committee. Daffodil, do you want to read this one?

3041
05:53:34.970 --> 05:53:52.550
jim murez: You know what, Jim? I Someone was supposed to join on from another and see that did something similar. But I we've gone so late. I'd rather just continue this to next month.

3042
05:53:53.100 --> 05:54:01.430
jim murez: They actually are doing a garden tour with a local nonprofit. You might want to talk to them about what's already going on.

3043
05:54:02.750 --> 05:54:03.570
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

3044
05:54:03.590 --> 05:54:08.390
Daffodil Tyminski: Yeah. But I I had some folks that were gonna come and speak on it, but it's just too late now.

3045
05:54:08.770 --> 05:54:20.430
robertthibodeau: Yeah, the family clinic used to run one for years, I know, because we had houses on Venice family clinics, fundraiser that was both garden and and and houses, and

3046
05:54:20.800 --> 05:54:25.840
robertthibodeau: they they ran one for many years. I'm not sure if they're still doing it with with the Covid stuff.

3047
05:54:26.330 --> 05:54:28.410
jim murez: Okay? Next

3048
05:54:29.300 --> 05:54:31.400
Jim Robb: I do. I'll read it.

3049
05:54:31.760 --> 05:54:44.840
jim murez: Yeah, we need. We need a board member to make the motion the second. And then Lisa asked Lisa to speak on the on the

3050
05:54:45.380 --> 05:54:57.370
Jim Robb: in a democratic society just the do you want me to read the No, just just the motion part, I will at least explain the rest of it. All right. Therefore the Venice Neighborhood Council directs it Secretary, or designated a minute taker

3051
05:54:57.490 --> 05:55:05.190
Jim Robb: in the Secretary's absence for inability to record attendance as required according to the bunk policy

3052
05:55:05.620 --> 05:55:08.280
Alley Bean: and ally is seconding this.

3053
05:55:08.420 --> 05:55:09.520
jim murez: Okay.

3054
05:55:15.050 --> 05:55:19.210
jim murez: Can we promote Lisa Redmond to speak?

3055
05:55:21.520 --> 05:55:24.380
Michael Jensen: Can I ask a procedural question here.

3056
05:55:24.960 --> 05:55:26.970
Michael Jensen: So typically

3057
05:55:26.980 --> 05:55:32.430
Michael Jensen: the genesis of a motion on our calendar is either a committee

3058
05:55:32.480 --> 05:55:38.220
Michael Jensen: or a stakeholder petition, if it goes directly to the board, but otherwise it always goes to committee.

3059
05:55:38.470 --> 05:55:40.690
Was this: Has this gone to committee yet

3060
05:55:40.940 --> 05:55:46.220
jim murez: went to the the committee that it should go to doesn't exist.

3061
05:55:46.440 --> 05:55:53.880
jim murez: we don't. We don't have a rules and selection committee. So atcom put it on the board directly.

3062
05:55:54.290 --> 05:56:10.210
jim murez: Whatever we can't send this to loop back. It's not a loop back issue. It's not a neighborhood issue. This is really a procedural issue. The proper place for it would be to go to rules and selections, but we don't have a chair there, so that's why it goes directly to the board.

3063
05:56:10.410 --> 05:56:11.060
jim murez: Yeah.

3064
05:56:12.420 --> 05:56:24.640
Lisa Redmond: Lisa, I unmuted you. You want to go ahead and explain

3065
05:56:24.790 --> 05:56:32.630
Lisa Redmond: people marked when they arrived after the commencement of a meeting, or if they leave before the adjournment.

3066
05:56:32.640 --> 05:56:37.660
Lisa Redmond: it is part of phone policy. It is in our bylaws.

3067
05:56:39.000 --> 05:56:41.400
Lisa Redmond: and it's just not being done.

3068
05:56:41.450 --> 05:56:49.810
Lisa Redmond: And that's why I wrote a motion. It doesn't even really need to go to the Rules Committee, even if it existed, because it is already part of the bylaws

3069
05:56:49.840 --> 05:56:50.800
Lisa Redmond: and

3070
05:56:51.050 --> 05:56:54.270
Lisa Redmond: and policy that needs to be done.

3071
05:56:54.380 --> 05:57:03.300
Lisa Redmond: It's it's important for record keeping. I don't understand Why, other than we're told it's been on zoom. and that it's hard to keep track. But yet

3072
05:57:03.320 --> 05:57:12.710
Lisa Redmond: people have to notice when they are coming in, and they do get promoted. So it's easy to take a little note like Whoa! 7, 57, so and so arrived.

3073
05:57:12.860 --> 05:57:22.230
Lisa Redmond: Why, they're not being people are not being direct to announce when they leave. I don't know I can't figure that out. But even the minutes that have

3074
05:57:22.390 --> 05:57:27.320
Lisa Redmond: been created and are being used, there's no, even not even a place to mark that.

3075
05:57:27.490 --> 05:57:30.320
Lisa Redmond: So all I'm asking is that

3076
05:57:30.910 --> 05:57:37.350
Lisa Redmond: we just start doing what we need to do. I'm not trying to single out people here. I just

3077
05:57:37.450 --> 05:57:43.410
Lisa Redmond: want us to follow procedure early, so that when people do go back and look up history, it's there.

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jim murez: Okay, Thank you. Do we have any public comment on this staff, though

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Daffodil Tyminski: we do.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Erica Moore. go ahead. We have about 4 or 5 answers.

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Erica Moore: I think this is a no brainer. It's supposed to be being done. It should be being done. It doesn't take a huge amount of time. I would think the secretary would be doing it.

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I don't know, but

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Erica Moore: just make sense. and it's also because there are rules about

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Erica Moore: the attendance that's, you know, in a normal meeting it's very obvious if somebody leaves if you're in person.

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Erica Moore: But in this.