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sarahwauters: Can you hear me now?

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sarahwauters: Hi, Jim, can you hear me?

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They are your host by.

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sarahwauters: can you? Okay, Hi, Isabel.

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sarahwauters: I think you're on mute.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Oh, yes, okay. So I see a panelists, I see. Attendees. Hi, honey! Hi! How are you? For a minute i'm. Great. I'm sorry I had to leave it one, you know I'm. On the theater or pain tour.

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Isabelle Duvivier: and this year, for the first time they're doing an event in the very beginning where they're gonna have. Some politicians come and speak about the value of native plants.

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and they've chosen my house to do that event.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So they're coming here today at one to just look around and double check and make sure it's suitable.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So that's why I have to leave it one. They didn't give me any options. They didn't do it at one or 2 or 3. They said we'll be there at one. I'm like, okay

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sarahwauters: nice of them are coming. They probably couldn't find availability. I don't know 2 or 3, I know. I feel like I have to put some makeup on, and then I have my gardeners fastidiously working right now in the garden, so I may get distracted a couple of times, but i'll try to be very

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Isabelle Duvivier: so. So how do you want to do this. Do you want to? You can't hear?

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sarahwauters: Yeah, I mean, I I i'm just wondering that because but i'm happy to do it. Where did I put my agenda was right here.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah, I think you should run the meeting like you always do. And if you Don't know how to re-introduce Teresa and and Marianne to say that they're very active tree people, and that they're engaged and involved with cfac marianne isn't on Cfac.

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Isabelle Duvivier: But she's like one of our go-to consultants because she used to work for the planning department. So that's so great. Yeah, so she's super valuable, she's, and one of the reasons she doesn't really want to be on Cfac

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Isabelle Duvivier: is because she wants to be able to just focus on the stuff that she's good at which is the planning and stuff does that? Is that too brutal?

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Isabelle Duvivier: No, I don't care. I know both of us are like. What does my hair look like? Oh, my God! I did. I actually did put makeup on this morning, and I'm using the going into the office as like the motivator like, how are you in your office. So.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yes, but but this is not my artwork I just want, so we can't see it. Can you get it? Turn your camera or move your body over, so that we don't need to see that bookcase.

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sarahwauters: I know the bookcase is super ugly, especially with the lamp on top. It doesn't. Oh, there you go. But now you move yourself over a little bit. Oh, look at that. That's gorgeous. Yeah.

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Isabelle Duvivier: See those 2 pictures behind me.

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sarahwauters: But yeah, there's only one picture, those 2.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Oh, those 2. Yeah. So we want to replace them, and we'd like to buy one of your photos.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So thinking about what you could put there. It has to be, You know roughly that big.

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sarahwauters: a square rectangle, something to go over the fireplace.

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sarahwauters: Oh, my God! I'm so excited! Thank you for asking me. What when is it? Here? It's 1125. We've got 5 min so i'm the reason Why, i'm a little bit focused on what we're gonna do here in the meeting. Of course you should be. Yes, because

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sarahwauters: I we have a kind of types, and I actually think it's better to have shorter meetings, so i'm not going to do a chair report. I'm just gonna go straight to you for the Cfac report, and you can make that as free for long as you want.

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sarahwauters: And now let's just say I don't have a Cfac report, because these girls are really presenting some of the stuff that Cfax been working on. Okay, Good. You can say that. And then Jane has a report. She'll probably babble on for a bit. But maybe what you ask. Oh, Janine has to leave early as well.

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Isabelle Duvivier: you know. Just ask her to be really brief. She's got a lot to say. She went over it all with me earlier.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Just ask her to say it really quick.

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sarahwauters: That's not gonna be plausible for Jenny. That's okay. So then we're gonna have a presentation from theresa. First. She's the United Nations. I'm sorry the United neighborhoods

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Isabelle Duvivier: is that great that was a good slip she's the United Nations representative for Neighborhood Council. Pre-pop.

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Isabelle Duvivier: That would be good. Yeah, Has any Has anyone tried to come in? You see anyone?

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Isabelle Duvivier: I emailed it to Joanne who emailed it to the UN to the Neighborhood Council Sustainability Alliance. I emailed it to Cfac.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I mean, maybe do you, in order to be on the Neighborhood Sustainability Alliance? Do you have to be a board member of a neighborhood council.

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Isabelle Duvivier: No, I'm. The I'm. The Venice Rep and I don't go to any of their events except their tree event

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Isabelle Duvivier: except the tree thing that she does right because they're doing everything they're doing energy, probably mobility, all of that stuff. Yeah. So I I think, Robbie Theresa. Theresa is on time.

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Isabelle Duvivier: and i'm going to make her a panelist, right?

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sarahwauters: And so

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sarahwauters: okay. So she's doing that she should be coming in any second here.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Let me see if.

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Isabelle Duvivier: when the next person comes in, let me try to move them to panelists, because I don't think I have that ability, and you might want me to do that while you're doing the meeting.

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Theresa Maysonet: So you might like Teresa. Hi, there, Sarah, so nice to meet you. Nice to meet you, too, and I love your background. Art. Thank you very much. Courtesy of Keith Errington. I it's so funny because I was explaining to Isabel. But this is not my art.

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sarahwauters: I just want everyone to be aware of that. But I am the reason I just moved into this office, and so I Haven't: okay, so time out 1 s, Sarah, I can't let Mark in. Do you want to give me the ability to let people in? I will. Here i'm going to let him in right now. But no, no, no, no, let me do it.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Same picture I can. Okay, here's Ruby. I don't know who Ruby is. But see if I you can promote me. I'm going to make you co-host.

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Theresa Maysonet: and also Laura myers will be joining me. She's we're planning our co-chair the planning and joining committee, so

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Theresa Maysonet: she may chime in on a few of our our my slides. So we could also have her

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Theresa Maysonet: be part of the that

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Theresa Maysonet: co-hosting or whatever it is, so she can do.

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Theresa Maysonet: Okay, how are you?

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Theresa Maysonet: Oh.

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Mark Ryavec: apparently I

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Mark Ryavec: something Where is going? On?

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sarahwauters: Yeah, Something Where it is going on. You look a little bit like a science fiction film.

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sarahwauters: Can you see all that flashing of where

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Mark Ryavec: I see what you see?

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Isabelle Duvivier: Maybe you come back?

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Isabelle Duvivier: You wanna

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sarahwauters: yeah, maybe maybe jump out. And then oh, there you go. That looks better.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So just all of you folks that are just coming in. I mean we this group? We just let everybody be a panelist if you not comfortable with your screen on you. Don't need to, you know, but we like to just have everybody in the discussion.

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sarahwauters: Is that Marianne?

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sarahwauters: Yeah. Hi, Marianne.

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Marianne King: I was. You were a little dark there for a second. You look.

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Isabelle Duvivier: You just have to get into the maybe I should put there.

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Theresa Maysonet: Okay, serve up the soda bread.

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sarahwauters: You know it's interesting. I was thinking about the fact that I have a red scarf on, and you know I grew up in the New York area, where, if you were Irish, you were green, and if you were Italian. You were red.

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Marianne King: and I am not Italian. No, I but I align more closely with Italians like I like Pasta as opposed to much better than Irish food. Yes.

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Theresa Maysonet: okay, Sarah, if you can enable me to be to screen share when it's my turn, it's just that I did that. And you did it. Okay? Good.

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Theresa Maysonet: Oh, yes, great. Thank you, Isabel.

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sarahwauters: Okay. So we're going to. You know we're still struggling.

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sarahwauters: That may make a difference. The only thing I Haven't tried yet.

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sarahwauters: Wow! He's really struggling. Okay, there we go. So I hope No? Well joins us.

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sarahwauters: because then we'll have a quorum.

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Marianne King: Hmm.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I wonder if it's not in the town right

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sarahwauters: there. He is out of town, and I don't see Michael. But

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sarahwauters: I did send a reminder last night so, and he's typically on his emails all day long. So we'll hope that he turns out now we can still have this presentation, which is very important for all of us to learn. Oh, there's Janine, Nurse Joanne.

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sarahwauters: Okay, so can you met? Let Mark in. Are you doing all of that is about

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sarahwauters: Mark?

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Isabelle Duvivier: Okay, You still look a little funny, but I don't know

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Mark Ryavec: It's still doing it.

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sarahwauters: Hmm.

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sarahwauters: Well, i'm happy to have you, anyway. If you turn off your picture it'll probably be less distracting to you.

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sarahwauters: There you go. Sorry, Mark. but we will have to rely on our ability to see your face at the next work day.

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Mark Ryavec: Right.

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sarahwauters: You can hear me on Hi Andreas Nice to see you. Okay, it's 1132 and I think we'll just get started with a call to order here you hear you and and roll call. So

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sarahwauters: Hi, Robin! Welcome! I'm here, Isabel.

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Isabelle Duvivier: i'm Here, here, Mark.

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sarahwauters: Michael.

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sarahwauters: Michael's not here.

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sarahwauters: Noel.

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sarahwauters: no. very

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sarahwauters: is not here, and Jim was here. I don't know if he counts. We. We presently don't have a quorum, so that means we're not going to be able to make any decisions. But i'm still going to record what goes on in the meeting.

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sarahwauters: and i'll post minutes presuming that either Noel or Michael will join us at some point.

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sarahwauters: So actually, i'm wondering is about if you could text both of those guys. Yeah, and see if they can pop in. That'd be great. Okay. so

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sarahwauters: we don't need to review or comment or adopt the meetings from February 2023 because I Haven't posted them yet. So we'll have to consider those next time.

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sarahwauters: Thanks for your patience, guys.

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sarahwauters: So now we have a period for public comment. But before we start public comment I want to alert everyone to the the agenda. We have 2 presenters today, both very interesting, and so I would like to move through the program pretty quickly to get to them, so that they're not waiting for a long time.

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sarahwauters: and we also have some new business that we like to discuss.

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sarahwauters: and there are quite a number of members of the Board who have a hard out at one. Pm: so i'd like us to kind of, you know. Move through things fairly quickly, so does anybody have public comment. Looks like

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sarahwauters: Robin.

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Robin Murez: I yeah, sorry. And I will

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Robin Murez: try to make this short. Our committee passed a motion some months back to create a little park

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Robin Murez: on the portion of Grand Canal, between North and South Venice Boulevard, and including the historic trolley car bridge. That's the only portion of the Venice canals that was originally built by Abba Kinney. So I want to bring it up to you because

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Robin Murez: it needs to be landscape. That's what it's all about it's making that

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Robin Murez: public right of way that currently is an eyesore into a cool little park. And I would love to have your input we need to do grading on it, and so, you know, is about any chance you have time, or anybody else who might be able to come over and take a peek and give your input.

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Robin Murez: I'm doing it as a

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Robin Murez: adopt a median through that program. And you know we've got a lot of things in order. They require a lot of detail. Okay, so that's what it is, and if anybody can help, it would be awesome.

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sarahwauters: Can you send me a copy of the motion.

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sarahwauters: You know, sort of what the parameters are, and and then I can post that on our committee page on the Bmc website, and i'll also be able to share it with folks. Could you walk me through exactly what area you're talking about? The bridge itself?

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Robin Murez: Yes.

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Robin Murez: the bridge itself, the bridge, and the banks of the canal. So you know, like there's no place where the public can actually sit by any of the canals, and this would actually create a little public park where people could.

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Robin Murez: We'd have tables and chairs. People could sit by the banks of the canal that section of the canal that's between North and South Venice Boulevard, and then including the bridge.

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Mark Ryavec: And how do you keep it from being taken over by some of our homeless?

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Robin Murez: Well, I think that's kind of the whole question for the entire, you know, neighborhood or city. And I I you know, Mark, I always just feel that we need to

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Robin Murez: make things wonderful, and not plan for the worst case scenario, but plan for the best, and my ballpark that I created across in the library on Ocean.

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Robin Murez: at South Venice Boulevard. I've been able to keep that clear, and it it as it works out. When you do these projects through the city, I then actually carry the insurance on it, and it

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Robin Murez: so I've been able to. Well, another neighbor put up sign, saying, this is private property, and that also helps to keep them out. So

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Robin Murez: yeah.

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Robin Murez: I don't think that's a problem. My approach is Russ.

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Mark Ryavec: because he's worked on several projects like this, including both of the meetings at the end of

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Mark Ryavec: Grand, where it comes into North Dennis Boulevard.

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Mark Ryavec: He did the landscaping and the planning, and at some point, even

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Mark Ryavec: when we raised the money, and we threw his crew at cost

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Mark Ryavec: at the project, and just got it done.

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sarahwauters: Great Russ! Isn't here today, but he does attend our work days, so it's a great time to catch up with him. He is pretty busy. But let's do you mind if I move on, and you guys can maybe privately talk with each other.

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sarahwauters: I'm sure you each have each other's, emails, and definitely provide me with that material, Robin. I'll put it up.

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Joanne D'Antonio: I I I just wanted to

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Joanne D'Antonio: mentioned that back in the late seventies I was editing a movie on Lenny Canal at Dell, and there was a little park right on on the north side, right at the bridge. I don't know it's there. Okay, good.

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Joanne D'Antonio: And I wanted to just announce that the Trees Committee is having an a a live demonstration of the city tree inventory on March 20, fifth at

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Joanne D'Antonio: 1 30. So it's a zoom. So if you, if you're interested, email me@treasonandcsa.la! I'll put it in the chat that's it.

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Joanne D'Antonio: And also I have to leave a little early. I'm gonna go on to a cell phone at 1230, because I have to pick up a tree at 3 people.

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Joanne D'Antonio: Okay, thank you. At least we know that it's tree business that you're you have to get my toy on. Okay.

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sarahwauters: Okay. So well thank you for that. Joanne and Joanne. Actually, you could provide me with the information, too, and I I I could also post it. Okay. So back to the

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sarahwauters: matters at hand. Isabelle, do you have a seat, back report or something? If you'd like to say.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Nope.

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sarahwauters: Okay. And I know Janine is here. I can see her. Janine, Would you share with us anything that needs to be reported regarding Vvg.

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Janin Paine: Yeah, we have a. We have a short report here. We have. Let's see, Wrap a fruit wrap is the recreation of Parks people, and they approved our planting in the oh, good dog, and no good parks

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Janin Paine: for trees. So we've got formal approval, which is nice.

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Janin Paine: We planted 12 oaks to replace the trees that had died on the Median strip. They were once. They were already landscaped in originally. Now Venice Boulevard. Wait! So we got that done in like 2 h it was really cool.

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Janin Paine: and there's a neighbor next near the Skill Center in Venice who funded cleaning up the strip on. So on between Sunset and Vernon on fourth, and so we have mulch the entire strip and planted under story, and we're waiting for our for trees to come in.

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Janin Paine: and then we'll plant those. So we have a lot going on. What else do we have? We have?

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Janin Paine: We have the the but the Taber Alley beautification. Grant that we got. We have not received the funds yet, and they are still waiting for some permits or something in the the system of the Beautification grant people. So we were originally going to try and plant in February. That's not happening. Obviously.

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Janin Paine: So. Whenever we get that, Grant let everybody know

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Janin Paine: what else is happening.

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Janin Paine: We've done a lot of weing at gold that around lot of meeting and planting around the farmers market. So that's looking really good on Dennis Boulevard, and we've had also near Goldstein parking lot around there also looks really good. We planted a bunch of understory plants there along with our Pope trees, or maybe oaks are doing really well.

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Janin Paine: We have had some vandalism over by

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Janin Paine: Pk. Which is like around there's a little section over there where somebody has sort of bent broken off some of our trees, and we've had to go in

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Janin Paine: this strategically. Print them

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Janin Paine: to replace the front. You know the leaders that they kind of bent off, and they also. It also happened over by the

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Janin Paine: the other side of the Skill Center, where we planted some baby trees.

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Robin Murez: So we've had to

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Janin Paine: doctor those trees a little bit, too, so that's kind of unfortunate.

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Janin Paine: so that we're really busy. We've got new volunteers that are coming. We're getting a lot done.

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Janin Paine: and people are coming to us now and saying, hey, this is sort of like Robin, but not the same. But like, why don't you fix up this area and hey, would you guys work on this area? We love it. So we're getting this the input from the community that's really positive, but also like

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Janin Paine: we're like oh, why we can't really do that right now. Did you want anything? Is the bell that was?

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Janin Paine: I know that was terrific.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I guess I would just add, for Sarah and Michael's benefit. You know how there was a tree that was wrapped up beautifully that had been damaged. That was Janine's handy word. I did that one day. My per I yeah it. It had been bad it. Some of them were broken, and I just had to take them off, and I had clippers, but

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Janin Paine: the one that was just bent enough I was able to straighten it. But I forgot to tell you guys who did it. So you came by, I think, not knowing who it.

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Janin Paine: That's what we want, you know. We always think of some little else coming along and doing that, Can I just find in that? The poppies by the farmers market are fabulous lots of wild flowers. I know you guys have done that. And regarding the beautification, Grant.

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Robin Murez: I think you just have to keep pestering like Jerry Valido.

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Robin Murez: I've been doing it. And yeah, after like maybe 3 or 4 phone calls and emails. Then I finally got his response. So keep pestering.

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Janin Paine: Yeah, I have to keep on them. Yeah, they ready for something because they? There's a debit card, but I can't get any money on it until

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Janin Paine: Yeah. Well, this thing happens.

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Janin Paine: Okay, that's the report. There's more. I'm sure. But that's Oh, my good! I got one more thing. The possibility of a grant from what is it called in is about like

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Isabelle Duvivier: it's a coastal conservancy. neighborhood community wetland Grant

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Isabelle Duvivier: that we were. We're considering going after with rap Recon Park. It's for a $100,000 it would be to work with the local community youth and and some of the local adults to plan a June restoration where Rose Avenue comes out

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Isabelle Duvivier: at the beach.

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Robin Murez: You know that Tim Rednick has one of those.

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Robin Murez: for well, closer to the Pier Venice, and I think they're about to start planning the grasses or something. So yeah, also the steak Also, conservancy that you introduced me to.

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Janin Paine: Yep. So that's a very, you know, Grants there. Those kind of grants are very on time consuming and detailed, as most of everybody here knows so.

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sarahwauters: So I'm. I have. A question is about so you I know that they gave you a go ahead on your pre application, and you presently working on the formal, the the main application. That's what's happening. Okay, Got it?

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sarahwauters: Yeah, we're still doing. We're still doing community outreach to make sure if it's possible. Like it's

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Isabelle Duvivier: Rap is a you know, an amazing under source resource organization, and it makes it hard to work with them, so we want to make sure that they're going to be good partners. And then we also need to find some local youth. So we're we're doing a little more

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sarahwauters: investigation before we dive into the actual application which is really onerous.

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sarahwauters: A a a Neighborhood Council tree policy that was drafted and passed by the United Neighborhoods.

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sarahwauters: So let's let's welcome Teresa.

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Theresa Maysonet: Where is she, Sara? And Isabelle for inviting me? I'm just gonna jump right into my presentation.

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Theresa Maysonet: Also. Let you know that Laura Myers. who is the former president of the United Neighborhoods Council, and also

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Theresa Maysonet: let's just get this started.

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Theresa Maysonet: You guys see that? Okay.

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Theresa Maysonet: Yeah, okay, Laura Myers will also be joining us. She's a former president. Also she Co-chairs a planning and zoning committee. She's a a concert preservationist and has worked on, having several.

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Theresa Maysonet: probably 50 or so homes designated as cultural historic monuments, so she'll be joining me a little bit later. So I thought i'd start by telling you a little bit about our neighborhood council. We are south of Pico.

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Theresa Maysonet: zigzag from Normandy to Western to Arlington, as you may see, interstate 10 cuts right through our neighborhood.

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Theresa Maysonet: it destroyed about over a 100 homes when they cut through our neighborhood, and that increase the sort of amplified the

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Theresa Maysonet: redlining and the discriminatory practice that we're already happening here.

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Theresa Maysonet: These boards are over seen through city planning department and this is important. And in this case, because these boards also have oversight over the exterior and the landscaping for all the residential areas, and

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Theresa Maysonet: we decided to have. We sort of had an unwritten tree policy. Oh, you should, you know, especially with developers. We want them to plant trees, plant native trees.

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Theresa Maysonet: But what really prompted us having a written policy was Development Project, called the Crenshaw Crossing, where

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Theresa Maysonet: the destruction of a protected growth of sycamores kind of went under the radar, and we realized, even though we had been a part, I wasn't at the time of part of this the discussion when they did their community outreach. But

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Theresa Maysonet: they were unaware that there was protective growth of trees there, so we realized that we need to have a written policy that we could hand to developers when they came to our community.

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Theresa Maysonet: and we had many discussions about what we wanted those developers to know. Obviously there are aesthetic and environmental benefits to having a thriving canopy, but they're also help and wellness.

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Theresa Maysonet: among many of the things it was to lay the framework for the urban Forest Manager management plan which the City Forest officer, Rachel Mal. Rich and consultants are working on right now.

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Theresa Maysonet: Trees provide cleaner air and trees help combat climate change. But in our case, what was really important for me to point out to our board is that it also reduces the urban heat dial effect, and having the 10 run through our community with at

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Theresa Maysonet: because we are a dense urban area. We have residential areas, but we are against urban area.

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Theresa Maysonet: having a thriving large tree canopy was really important. We know that it improves our mental health and our communities that have less than 10% have greater levels of stress, anxiety.

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Theresa Maysonet: the Equity assessment also showed that wealthier neighbors, wealthier neighborhoods have greater tree canopy. But the important point. Those are also important. But the other

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Theresa Maysonet: notation for me was that we are all. Every part of the city is losing tree canopy. There is a reduction of 14, so we know that

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Theresa Maysonet: south. La. It's our our neighborhood councils within CD. 10, and you can see this light colored area here and this greener area. Obviously there are other parts we would notice that have a greater canopy. But what it's also important to point out is that

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Theresa Maysonet: it's not our exact boundaries, but we have about 15%. The average canopy in the city is about 21%. So this was one more data point that needed to be included to help us preserve our canopy.

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Theresa Maysonet: And I thought I put this in for you guys. I'm not sure. I'm Sure. I know Isabel has. Most of you have seen that. And Venice. You guys have about 8,800 trees. and you do have broadly

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Theresa Maysonet: 57% broadly. But you have many palm trees also. And then I thought this is an interesting fact that you about 1,200 vacant sites that can be planted.

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Theresa Maysonet: So besides science, what else could we do to include in our our tree policy, we said, Well, let's see what the city has, so

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Theresa Maysonet: they do have they? Their main report had examples of best practices which is retain the existing trees, protect them, try to incorporate them into design.

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Theresa Maysonet: to give a pro priority to native trees. We happen to really like coastline bulk and western sycamores, but any native tree is going to increase biodiversity, and that's also very important for climate, resilience, and our overall health and wellness of our community. We would like for them to commit to a 5 year maintenance.

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Theresa Maysonet: And here this will ask me to provide some examples. So this is an example of a project from a developer, C. I m

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Theresa Maysonet: So we are very familiar with them. They are very familiar with us. They came in about a year ago and wanted to develop this parcel. They had some ideas.

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Theresa Maysonet: So I suggested that since they have these big courtyards, why not have coast live oaks? You're adjacent to the 10 we can, You know we need to have large canopies to

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Theresa Maysonet: Where they are going to change the density.

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Theresa Maysonet: and and this is all within a 20 block radius.

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Theresa Maysonet: So along with Robin Gilliam, who sits on c. See that we wrote a statement

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Theresa Maysonet: that I presented when planning came, that we this is part of a larger goal, with the fact to have site. Assessments done.

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Theresa Maysonet: the planners came, we said we would like to see this site. Assessment evaluate the trees document those trees before you

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Theresa Maysonet: put in this these 3 story apartment buildings, and they actually included it in the Cpio

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Theresa Maysonet: what is great about this is that now other as these amendments take place in other housing amendments take place in other parts of the city. They can refer to this and say, hey, planning.

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Theresa Maysonet: you made this adjustment for the South, La Cpio. We would like to see the same language applied

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Theresa Maysonet: and updated in our Cpio.

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Theresa Maysonet: So our tree policy was not just about working with developers and

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Theresa Maysonet: preserving the trees that we have. It's also part of our overall

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Theresa Maysonet: come out of these apartment buildings 484 units. That's gonna be constructed and print shop crossing and 800 units, and this proposed costco

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Theresa Maysonet: facility development that they also need to experience nature.

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Theresa Maysonet: when we plant native trees

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Theresa Maysonet: you get biodiversity. These are just some trees, some photos from my yard.

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Theresa Maysonet: Yeah. But this can happen when we have native trees, and then my personal opinion is, when people experience nature, they are not only healthier, they are happier, and so that is our overall goal of having the tree power.

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Theresa Maysonet: So thank you very much, and i'd be

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Theresa Maysonet: delighted to take some questions. Oh, Laura. I introduced you to earlier, Laura, so i'm glad you were able to make it. Yeah, I just wanted to say I am here, and and I understood why it might be late, and it was

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sarahwauters: Thank you for coming. Let me just. I I would like to say, thanks myself. Sorry, Laura, i'm Sarah Waters. I share the committee, and I just wanted to also give people an opportunity to ask questions of Teresa. I think we have time for maybe

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sarahwauters: one or 2 questions. No, 2 or 3 questions. So is there anybody that has a question they'd like to ask? I know I have one, but i'd like to let the public. Go ahead first.

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sarahwauters: Selma, please go ahead.

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Thelma Mericle Sherman Oaks Neighborhood Council: Oh, hi, Teresa, thank you so much for that wonderful, wonderful seminar. I would like to know how to get a hold of you

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Thelma Mericle Sherman Oaks Neighborhood Council: or your organization, because we're having a situation right here. I'm in the Sherman Oaks Neighborhood Council, and we're having a house on my block, which is going to have 25 trees removed.

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Thelma Mericle Sherman Oaks Neighborhood Council: and so, you know we need. It would be helpful if I could communicate and get some help.

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Theresa Maysonet: Sure I I can put my information in the chat. I think another option would be to reach out to see fact. I'm not sure who the representatives for that neighborhood. But they see Fact is Community Forest Advisory Committee, and they also advocate for the preservation of trees. So

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Thelma Mericle Sherman Oaks Neighborhood Council: I will put my email in the chat. Okay, and could you please put that link also, or that that see? I I can't exactly hear it. F.

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Theresa Maysonet: No. C. F. A. CC. Fact: Community Forest Advisory Committee when i'm looking. Isabel is a member, is the bell, and maybe she knows who represents. Okay, yeah, thank you. I would like to. And also they they did put a demolition sign up.

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Thelma Mericle Sherman Oaks Neighborhood Council: which was down for 20 days, laying down on the ground. And now they just propped it up.

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Thelma Mericle Sherman Oaks Neighborhood Council: And so I need to make a call. Do I call building and safety? Who do I? I'm: Sorry. Okay. Would you please email with Isabel or me? And then we'll. We'll push on the right road there. Okay, Thank you so much. Bye, I believe New Well has her hand up.

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Noel Johnston: Can you hear me?

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sarahwauters: Yes, we can.

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Noel Johnston: Oh, this is actually working.

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Noel Johnston: I'm: so impressed I I tuned in light, and I wanted to. I wanted to ask Laura if she ever met within difference. We do a lot of the same things that she's she's doing, and often we are, I think, ignored

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Noel Johnston: by developers.

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Noel Johnston: and we seem to have no recourse if we are ignored.

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Noel Johnston: Laura. I'm: I'm: curious about this.

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Laura Meyers: Yeah. So 20 years in.

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Laura Meyers: Certainly we've done ignored by style and not ignored by maybe many. So the developers have good projects.

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Laura Meyers: Do me. The Neighborhood Council can ideally make them.

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Laura Meyers: and in those years of experience they really creepy well to also not want to make, and I mean I don't know how specific I should be that, as Teresa knows

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Laura Meyers: and I don't even know what to say. They They're not required to adjust their proposals based on community input.

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Laura Meyers: and it is a housing project

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Laura Meyers: versus a commercial building project.

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Laura Meyers: It's a housing project at this moment in time. There's also some state laws that make it very difficult to force

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Laura Meyers: It just depends what kind of project it is and what they're

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Laura Meyers: what's called in town is what the entitlements are, how hard or easy is it to get it? So this is broadly, not just about trees or are are are stepping into the tree realm.

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Laura Meyers: Yeah, we've been talking to developers about trees for a long time, but we didn't have the policy until there is the the

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Laura Meyers: I need to write the policy. And she did so.

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Laura Meyers: Yeah. So we for a long, long time have been saying, please use native. You know our we had a 2 sentence pro policy of we prefer native plants, but nothing as specific as we have now

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sarahwauters: right. I would like to rob, and if you just wait 1 s I want to follow up no else question, because this is very important to us as a policy setting body

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sarahwauters: when you were able. And this could be a question for Teresa or Laura either of you when you were able to get that input, into that large project that you showed us.

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sarahwauters: it seems like you were able to intercede in the process before the design got done. No.

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Laura Meyers: because we have trouble interceding early Enough that you keep on telling us. Oh, no, it's all done. We're not going to change it.

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Laura Meyers: no. They actually paid their architect to change the design and and then happen more than I was, but the tree part was that, you know, a new change. but the developer I mean, there's that particular developer.

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Laura Meyers: and he has a lot of money. But, as Teresa pointed out, also has a lot of projects. and they're not all housing projects, so they they want to be sure

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Laura Meyers: that they have a collaborative relationship with the community, because I mean they develop

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Laura Meyers: Johnny Pastrame on West Adams. There's no housing there, so you know, a a community member or Neighborhood association or a neighbor of council could delay them dramatically on those kind of projects, so they prefer to build a collaborative relationship.

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Laura Meyers: and that is on. I can say that. No, they actually did a real redesign it. It is better to meet early. I think you have a presentation after this about how to track cases on

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Laura Meyers: right. So when when what we do, what I do is I I really read that every time, and I will reach out on behalf of the planning and zoning Committee for you at Nc. Right at the beginning.

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Laura Meyers: and that's not always successful, they say. Wait not going to a public hearing for 9 months. Why do I need to talk to you

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Laura Meyers: other times? It is successful, and we can influence changes also. If it is a of an affordable 100% affordable housing project.

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Laura Meyers: in funding rounds from various Federal State, you know sources, and they not only usually need to have some sort of letter of support or evidence that they have

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Laura Meyers: and these are: they have thick deadlines from when they can apply for funding, so they don't want any delays

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Laura Meyers: of any sort. They don't want appeals. They don't want anything. So the the our approach at you and and see, but, by the way, is very collaborative. We're not Nimby at all. We we want

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Laura Meyers: especially affordable housing, but we support housing, which we hope is designed to, you know, to the character of the neighborhood. We've had some over the years push back from our own community when when we are saying Yes, let's support this project on a commercial corner, because

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Laura Meyers: obviously somewhere, right next door is going to be housed with the backyard, whose privacy is going to be interrupted. So it is going to be a forever more

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Laura Meyers: challenge to balance. You know the all all of these different interests, but we try to do that so we're.

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Laura Meyers: The planning department will tend to listen to us

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Laura Meyers: because we tend to support much more often than we oppose, and we have a moderated

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Laura Meyers: I can't. I have no idea, you know, who is on this call in terms of their communities, but it's we have a 20 year relationship with the planning department.

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Laura Meyers: That shows that kind of approach.

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sarahwauters: Okay, that's very informative. Thank you. I'm: I'm: very glad that you gave all of those details because it is something that we would like to be able to accomplish in our neighborhood.

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sarahwauters: Robin. Go ahead, please.

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Robin Murez: Yeah. I want to kind of point out the obvious that we have a we the incumbent. We. We have an election coming up in the Neighborhood Council, and the incumbent for the head of land use and planning has not been, I think, particularly interested in

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Robin Murez: a addressing the needs of trees or preserving the scale of the community, and I just want to point out that there is another person running for that position, and I really think we need to get some new blood in there and try to get the policy Whole perspective changed that what we want is to

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Robin Murez: better, and not just to roll over and let anybody tear down trees. I'm also going to point out there's another candidate

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Robin Murez: who recently has said a couple of times in Lupeck meetings that all trees should be torn down. Nobody should protect their trees, because trees are dangerous, and with the heavy rains they fell down, and it's Yolanda, so we've got to vote carefully. We've got to get the word out that

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Robin Murez: you know she needs to learn to trim trees. I brought that up, but we've really got to make some changes in the Neighborhood Council, or there's no hope. And anyway, that's all.

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sarahwauters: Okay, Thank you, Robin. I appreciate that.

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sarahwauters: Yes, we're gonna both carefully, sure. Okay. So I had some questions, but they've kind of been answered by what you, Teresa and Laura had to say.

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sarahwauters: I think that's about it, for the questions, and I don't I see one hand up. Let's see. Who is that

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sarahwauters: Jay Ross? Hi!

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J Ross, WLA Sawtelle NC: I can't see your face very well, but it's dark here that lights behind me. Hey, Can these be codified? You know we we've had Cim come into our neighborhood in West La, and plant absolutely 0 trees on site, they all say, oh, well, look at all these street trees, which are pretty small to begin with, and they have to do anyways.

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J Ross, WLA Sawtelle NC: I mean, are you guys gonna to propose like revising the Toc guidelines, or this the 1818 guidelines, or the landscape ordinance to force these

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J Ross, WLA Sawtelle NC: developers to push back their underground garages, so trees can be planted in the front yard in the rear yard.

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J Ross, WLA Sawtelle NC: you know, because what they do, you guys know, they put them in pots and plants, and the and planners and planners have non organic aggregate charcoal for the storm water. So you just get twigs growing, you know you need like a

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sarahwauters: 7 by 7 by 7. Yeah, we're aware we're aware of all of these issues by try to codify them. And so here's what I think. I think I mean i'm not a legislative specialist. But I think what the approach that Theresa and Laura have taken is that you really have to do it

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sarahwauters: every single development at a time, because

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sarahwauters: because these developers, Aren't going to listen to you, I mean everything, but also the State legislatures are not either because the perception right now in this in Sacramento is that we need housing more than we need trees, so we are really doing what we're going to do as much as we can do at the grassroots level standing in front. We're trying to stand in front of projects and get

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sarahwauters: some cooperation, and I think that Laura has pointed out that they've had quite a bit of success, and they've had that success through being collaborative rather than obstructionists.

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sarahwauters: So it's. You know it's it's it's more hard work, I think, to be collaborative, and really go to the mat. But the codification I don't see it as a possibility right now I mean it. Doesn't need state approval on the Sb. 1818 implementation ordinance is also

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sarahwauters: local level, so it doesn't need state approval so we could. We could make a proposal. Have you drafted a proposal for a local ordinance or a you know.

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sarahwauters: Yeah, that's a great idea.

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sarahwauters: That's a great idea. We listen. If you want to call on us for a motion.

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sarahwauters: call me will draft a motion, and we'll we'll put a motion through. That's that's the extent of our, you know, Power, but i'm happy to do that with you. It looks like Laura's got her hand up to hold on. We've got to. It's 1220 now, and we do have one other presenter. So let's try to keep snappy.

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Laura Meyers: Well, I i'm sorry it's just gonna that. Say, I don't know what stage your community is in in terms of updating your community plan.

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Laura Meyers: So it and that, would it. I see people on this call who are from other communities a a good place where you can do this.

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Laura Meyers: And again Teresa pointed out where we had an update to

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Laura Meyers: the Pio. That's the community plan implementation ordinance. They are adopting them, one community plan at each on. So if your community plan is not yet updated, you can

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Laura Meyers: work out something with the planners. Who but those planners work very collaboratively with the community? The ones who don't are the people process cases, the 2 different divisions of the department.

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Laura Meyers: But yeah. So so since each of you are in a possibly a different community plan. But that's the place to add some language

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Laura Meyers: and make sure if you succeed in convincing them to add language that now it has to be what the State is calling objective language.

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Laura Meyers: You shall plant this many trees for this many units, not

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Laura Meyers: trees, are a nice thing to have, you know. So so it has the objective, not subjective. And it again depends on where your community plan update is in what stage

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Laura Meyers: and that's all.

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sarahwauters: Thank you, Laura Isabelle.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I just wanted to add that Jay Ross is probably the hardest working member of the West La Satell Neighborhood Council. He advocates for trees on his Loopak Committee constantly, and they're constantly getting railroaded by developments.

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Isabelle Duvivier: And very similarly to you guys at the Unnc. They've got the 405 and the 10 that right run through their community. Not quite the 10, but certainly the 405, and so I would love to, maybe recommend that we take this conversation offline

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Isabelle Duvivier: and get the 3 of you guys together. I'd be happy to facilitate, to see. Like the Venice Neighborhood Council, Their community plan is is happening right now.

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Isabelle Duvivier: and we're not really seeing a whole lot of

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Isabelle Duvivier: interest at the planning department level with our city planners that are not high enough to know about what's happening in trees in this, in planning at the highest level, planning is very open to talking about trees, but not at the lower community plan level. So in the interest of time, i'd love to continue this dialogue

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Isabelle Duvivier: between J. And Teresa and Laura. Thank you and and and us as a former legislative analyst for the city of La I'd be happy to join in that effort.

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Laura Meyers: Well, I think person at the planning department to have this deep conversation with this gentleman named Craig Weber.

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Laura Meyers: because he's super by at at least on the west of the Metro.

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Laura Meyers: you know South, because he is the planner in charge of the planners for the community clients.

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Laura Meyers: and he's one of the people who actually worked on creating these Cpi. So he he's a very nice though.

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sarahwauters: and Craig's area does that include everything except the valley, is my guess. He he's very standard. He may supervise all of them. I'm. Not positive. Okay, Craig Weber, and it's W. U. E. E. R. One big Great. Thank you.

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Robin Murez: I'll be quick. I'll be quick. I just want to mention that the whole way that Quimby funds came into being was the notion that whenever more units are being built for housing, that open space is needed.

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Robin Murez: and perhaps, you know, looking at the whole concept of how Quimby exists is something that could be helpful with just saying when more housing is built we need more trees.

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sarahwauters: Okay.

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Theresa Maysonet: thank you. If I could just tell you about these crimpy funds, we're very familiar with them. We actually lobby to our Council district to use Quimby funds and our ap funds to put an additional lighting at our local park, the lighting and security cameras. So yes, that's certainly getting access to those crimby funds. Can

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Theresa Maysonet: we used to do trees or any kind of recreational work? Okay, guys, the the acronym, Quimby. What does it actually stand for?

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Mark Ryavec: It's the name of the legislator that carried the legislation.

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sarahwauters: I see. Okay, and i'm not talking about using the funds. I'm. Saying the model of the fact that that was created

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Robin Murez: in order to have you know the with the notion that more open space is needed when you have more housing, once you create more density. So I think that same argument could be When we create more density of housing, we need to have more trees.

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sarahwauters: Okay.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Shelly, Did you take your hand down?

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Shelley Billik: I did. I did. I was just gonna say about the Quimby funds that you know we've heard year after year that rap can't use it for planting trees or maintenance.

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Shelley Billik: and we actually did a deep dive into the language, and nowhere does it say that you can't do that. It's just been kind of an unwritten

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sarahwauters: understanding by rap. But now I understand that, Robin was saying, Just look at the model. Not necessarily the actual funds.

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Shelley Billik: I would have put it in the chat, but I don't see a chat thingy.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I'm having a hard time finding the chat, too, because this is a public.

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sarahwauters: Thank you, Shelly. Great presentation, Teresa. Thank you for inviting me. Thank you for coming in. Yeah, it was really great. I hope that you can stay for this next one, too, because you might I, who knows you might be able to chime in and give us some

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sarahwauters: some more guidance. So our next presentation is about how to track the cases.

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sarahwauters: so that we can get it. Insert ourselves into that project as early as possible. And is our presenter here?

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sarahwauters: Hi, Marianne! Hi, there you are! Okay.

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sarahwauters: Do you have someone who's gonna help share your slides or do you? Are you gonna do your slides or so.

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Marianne King: Oh, i'll just share screen I so. And i'm not doing slides. I'm just hopefully. It's activated so I can just do a quick run through with you as well.

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sarahwauters: Do you want to try sharing your screen right now? Do you have

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Marianne King: let's do it?

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Marianne King: Okay, Excellent. It's working.

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Marianne King: Well, hi! Everyone! My name is Mary Ann King. I i'm a retired city planner for the city of Los Angeles. I worked there for 19 years, as mainly

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Marianne King: and short term planning project planning my geographic area was San Fernando Valley, all all aspects of it. I'm. A resident here in Chatsworth, and so in my retirement I joined the Chatsworth Neighborhood Council, and

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Marianne King: just

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Marianne King: I've been a passionate about tree preservation way before I even got into planning. So

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Marianne King: So that is kind of my focus now where I'm putting my energy and hopefully I can help empower. And I make people smarter with the tools that we have. So so I I did anyone get a I'm just gonna run through this list

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Marianne King: fairly quickly. But I hopefully, you have a copy of it, and you can use this as a guide, so a lot of you may be familiar with this, so it might be a little repeat. But just bear with me. I just try to simplify it so step by step, so monitoring planning cases. These are cases that

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Marianne King: require discretionary review, not by right. So Discretionary Review. It may or may not require a public hearing. It depends on the you know entitlement that they're seeking.

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Marianne King: So the first step is to sign up for early notification system, the link here on power. La, there's also one, I think, on the C website. They're both they they're both

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Marianne King: the same thing. So if you haven't done this. Do it. I'm not gonna go into that right now. But i'm gonna show you the most recent early notification list, and we'll go through that, and i'll give you some tips on that. I also included in this is the case prefix and suffix, because if you don't know planning lingo and case lingo.

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Marianne King: Then it makes it really hard to figure out. I don't. Well, what kind of project is this, you know. So for those of us who care about trees, a a case with a suffix cub, which is a conditional use for alcohol. We can just go quickly, skip over that.

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Marianne King: and and just hone in on projects that types of projects that may require tree removal. So I hope that will be helpful. And there's some new suffixes pre prefix as well like ATM and

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Marianne King: preliminary review. So the second link is to sign up for hearing notifications, and that is the link that

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Marianne King: I use, and the only thing here is that it's it's only for city planning commission and area planning commissions. It doesn't include zoning administration cases, subdivision cases, or hearings. I should say

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Marianne King: I know Neighborhood Council members should be getting those automatically.

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Marianne King: So these are the 2 types of hearings that you just have to pay attention to. I mean, you know the planning website and under about, and and look at what cases are coming down the pipeline as far as zoning cases and subdivision cases. So there's always a way to

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Marianne King: to. There is transparency. It's just that you have to figure out how to find it. Does that make sense? Okay.

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Marianne King: So and the next thing, really, I think a very important is the City Council agendas, the City Council Committees definitely planning and land use management committee boards and commissions. So

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Marianne King: I think that once you sign up for all these things, you're gonna get bombarded. But you'll figure out what to focus in on hopefully and and and what to look at as early as possible.

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Marianne King: and let's see. And always

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Marianne King: once you start going through this kind of preliminary review when a project just gets filed, and you look at your early notification a list. If there is something on there, I would it may I would, e. That you concerned about. I would email that planner.

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Marianne King: Let them know what your you know. Let them know. You want to be on the interested parties list. So you should be getting anything to do with environmental determination, hearing.

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Marianne King: or you can just make a list of everything that you want. But I like to have that communication early on. If I have a concern and hold, I would say the planner

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Marianne King: accountable. You know. Where's the tree? Report that I get a copy of the tree report, so we'll, we'll get into that.

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Marianne King: And then I just kind of did just kind of a summary of what I do.

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Marianne King: I hope everyone here is familiar with zemas. If not, I can add that to this we'll be looking at Seamus. But anyway, Zeus is zi

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Marianne King: m a. S dot l a city.org. That's how you get into zemas.

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Marianne King: And then, of course, the planning website is planning.la city dot org. So those are 2 good links to to always have. I always have those in my bookmark, so I don't have to

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Marianne King: put in the address. So when I look at the early notification report, or or if I have, if something peaks my interest, I will go to zoom. Is that my first go to tool, and it's kind of a one. Stop shop for me. I think it has most everything I need.

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Marianne King: I I'll bring up the project site via the address.

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Marianne King: and i'll look at the aerial, the aerial under zemas, and we'll do that today for onsite trees that the most recent area under zoom is unfortunately from 2,017. So

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always keep that in mind that what you see from 2,017 may not be obviously the situation today. So you

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Marianne King: use other tools, you know, being a aerial is good Google Earth Street view. So I use all these tools. And basically, if I, if I see a a lot with no trees, I move on next, and and going through this an early notification list

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Marianne King: depending on the length of it, you know you could spend

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Marianne King: an hour or more or less, and you just it. It is. But I look at every community. I just don't look at my own. So because I have the big picture on my

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Marianne King: and let's see here. So if I know someone had mentioned, there were concerns about trees that are are being cleared before a project is is filed.

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Marianne King: So when you look at the aerials, I mean, I think the the takeaway is, it's you can

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Marianne King: try to get an understanding of what trees are there, and if any were cleared prior to the projects to middle.

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Marianne King: if the site is cleared and it, you know. Look at the building a safety permits. I'll show you how to do that, to see if there are any permits that were issue that may have permitted this.

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Marianne King: or if there are any other related entitlement cases that may have permitted this. You can have, an you know, a

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Marianne King: a planning case that was approved years ago, and now they're just starting to work on that site, which is, you know, 6 years later. So that happens.

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Marianne King: and let's see.

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Marianne King: I think, what i'll do now and then the and so i'm just gonna walk you through what I do. So i'm gonna switch my

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Marianne King: switch to my. I wonder if I can do this? How can I do? Hang on. I'm going to show you the next.

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Marianne King: There we go.

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Marianne King: You might need to. Oh, there we are, Number one. So can you? You can see this.

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Marianne King: Okay? So this is the early notification. This is the most recent one. So you receive this via email. When you sign up you'll get it in the email, and there'll be links to every case

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Marianne King: that's file. And I just highlighted a couple of things. I know there are some communities that are hillside communities that are have sensitive habitat areas. I have lots of trees. So Beverly, Eric Bel Air Beverly Crest definitely is one.

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Marianne King: and I just make a a note here. So I just hone in on the case numbers. First. It's like, okay, Coc: and you know, and then the project description. This is such helpful information, and and from there I like, okay, I'll. I'll take a look at the I'm gonna show you one on your community.

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Marianne King: But i'll click on the link and go from there. So it's just one project at a time. If if I

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Marianne King: have a concern. Hall routes right now, I have a case i'm working on that. It's a hall route, submittal

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Marianne King: and the hillside, and they're removing a lot of trees, and it turns out to be narrow, sensitive

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Marianne King: habitat area and we're certain we're this look, this mapped sensitive area wasn't picked up, and it really shouldn't have been issued a categorical exemption. But it was

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Marianne King: so just a hone in on hall routes, because it usually requires tree removal, grading obviously, and and tree removal. So so that's my little note there.

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Marianne King: and we'll move on down this one.

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Marianne King: What did I say here? Oh, well, I actually look at them. Can you zoom in a tad? Because it's really hard for?

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Marianne King: Oh.

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Marianne King: maybe just

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Marianne King: Hmm. Yeah, if not, no worries

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Marianne King: there. Sorry about that. That's great. Okay. So I

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Marianne King: here, I just made a little note, and you know this is an ATM case. This is an administrative case. It's a Discretionary review, but there will be no hearing on this. And now we're getting a lot of these right, the the 100% affordable.

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Marianne King: Or you know the in this case

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Marianne King: there's a large street tree on Cherokee, so i'm gonna I think what happens often. Time with this list is the plans on our ways uploaded in the system, and i'll show you so sometimes you have to go back.

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Marianne King: or you just asked the planner for to email the plans. But this is something i'd like, you know, that's a side issue. But i'd want to see the you know this is helpful. Information is, if we can get all that information at the one time and not have to go back. So so that was my little note there.

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Marianne King: So now we so this is all by neighborhood council

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Marianne King: and alphabetical order.

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Marianne King: What did I say here? Oh, yeah, so this one, my little my little bars in the way, though. Right, Can you see? Oh, well, anyways.

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Marianne King: this one there is a large picas tree, and I clicked on this link. I wanted this to work. I'll just show you really quick.

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Marianne King: Yeah. So

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Marianne King: oh, they finally uploaded it. Okay, so.

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sarahwauters: Mary, and you may have to switch over to that other window to show us.

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sarahwauters: So you're not seeing it now. We're seeing your list, so you just need to, you know. Go into your windows and click on that window.

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Marianne King: Hang on!

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sarahwauters: I think it should show up.

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Marianne King: Oh, I see, I see.

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Marianne King: Hmm!

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Theresa Maysonet: Sometimes I just share and then start sharing again.

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Marianne King: Oh, so I have to keep doing the share. Oh, Jeeze, you know i'll hold off on that because I don't want to be going back and forth. I'm gonna just do one demo, and i'll do it. You know I had planned on doing your

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Marianne King: your nay Road Council area. So. anyways, long story short.

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Marianne King: there is a large. This street tree is probably only one left. As I look at the block, and how everything's

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Marianne King: all new development, and there's a a a brand new development as well, and but there was no mention of on the treatise on the disclosure statement. They said, there's no trees at all, and it's like, Well, yeah, there is. There's a huge

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Marianne King: So that's a stuff it's like, I want to make sure the information is accurate that submitted and nothing's overlooked. So I hold. So I emailed the planner, and and i'm gonna do an update

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Marianne King: with her soon, just to make sure the plans show the

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Marianne King: it's correct information that's being provided I My my feeling is the planners are working so fast they're not looking at all this the fine detail. So I don't mind helping.

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Marianne King: Let's see

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Marianne King: Lot line adjustments. Oh, well, this you know. I'm not picking out any anyone in particular. But after a while you get familiar like with your developers and your applicant representatives, so some of them, you know, may have. You may have a history with, and so I hone in on that as well like. Oh, one of you know.

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Marianne King: Let me take a look at this project. So that's just why kind of why I had nothing about ben per se. It's just I highlighted that just to say I i'm familiar

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Marianne King: with a lot of applicant representatives, and what they the kind of work that they submit. And and so it's another thing other than just the type of case. The you know. Who's who's submitting it?

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Marianne King: Let's get down to Venice.

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Marianne King: Oh, small lot subdivisions. I just again. This is a type of case that usually requires pretty much all the trees be removed. It may or may not be

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Marianne King: reasonable, and and if there's an opportunity to say perimeter trees, then that's what I do, especially if it's at grade.

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Marianne King: And what's this one?

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sarahwauters: I i'm sorry I just have one question about what you've just asked, Which is that what you've just said is that you would?

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Marianne King: You would go to the planning department and ask them for perimeter trees. I mean, how would that? So? What I do is I follow? Yes, I follow the case.

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Marianne King: and either I will submit concerns in the beginning, or i'll catch it when it it comes up for hearing.

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Marianne King: and and you would go to the hearing and verbal. I submit my comments to me right now. It's, you know, very convenient

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Marianne King: to do that.

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Marianne King: So Yes. So I I just.

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Marianne King: I just weigh in wherever I feel it's best away in.

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sarahwauters: Okay.

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Marianne King: and you know, there, here you have Mulholland Design Review Board, which is. I'm: You know this is a a group that I'm assuming is is honing in on trees and sensitive areas, so I may not put as much energy into specific plan areas where I know there's a you know a very, I I would say, hopefully knowledgeable group of people that care about the same thing.

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Marianne King: but generally in Mulholland, just like with the ballet or Beverly Chris. It's an area that for sure, you know, I would look to see if there are trees and what the project is, and if any trees are going to be remote.

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Marianne King: So let's go. I'm gonna move on down to Venice because I don't want to hold

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you guys up.

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Marianne King: Yes.

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Marianne King: all right. So here's Dennis. It. Can everyone here you're muted.

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Marianne King: How how did that happen?

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Isabelle Duvivier: She's not. We can hear her.

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Marianne King: Oh.

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Shelley Billik: no, I said, Sarah. I just saw Sarah talking.

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Marianne King: Oh, sorry. Yes, I was asking Shelly if you had something you wanted to interject at this time, or could you really quick? I, Marianne, I am just curious if the planners respond to you because you were previously a planner, or would they also respond to anyone in the public asking you for site plans or more detail.

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Marianne King: They we some are better than others, a lot of planner. There is a lot of new planners that don't know me. I don't say who I am. So I just ask for the information. It's. It's their responsibility to provide the information. So it's public information, and that's

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Marianne King: you know. So definitely. You know. Yeah, they're required to provide it.

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Marianne King: So how soon they get back to you is another story. So you can follow up this summer better than another. Some are very quick, and some, you know, may not respond. And what I do is I step it up so if someone is not gonna it's not responding to me, and I do like a second, or you know third. Then it's like well who's their supervisor? And I look look up in the directory and find out who the supervisor is, and i'll go there. I just. I have no tolerance, for

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Marianne King: you know a people not responding, and so that's what I do, but I always give people a chance, you know, and I realize you know, that some are busier than others, and so forth. So

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Marianne King: it's, you know, go with your tolerance. But but I would go with the planner first. I always like to start, you know, with the whoever's going to be working on the case.

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Marianne King: So

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Marianne King: so here is a project that's a conversion of you. Have a lot of these, I notice so existing garage into accessory dwelling, unit and maintenance of 190 square foot addition to the 80 You so the comfort zone is. Oh.

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Marianne King: it's a conversion of an existing garage, so no trees would be cut down. You would, you would presume, but it's that little addition that might actually be at issue here. So i'm gonna click on this.

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Marianne King: and now is where I need to share my screen. Right. Hang on! Where are you?

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Isabelle Duvivier: That the architect on that project we know very, very well. Also on the Venice Neighborhood Council.

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Marianne King: and he's sometimes a tree. He he plants really nice trees on his properties. Yeah. Oh, good. So so you already kind of like that's part of your filtering, you know, when you're going through this, it's like all right. I have a comfort level here, but

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Marianne King: I just want to show you like the mechanics of it. So you click on that link, and then you click on initial submitted documents. I guess

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this here.

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Marianne King: now in this situation. So if you look on the left hand side, you have a case number. When it was filed it was assigned to the planning counter, who takes in the case. Some sends it to whoever the Supervisor is for the project planning area.

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Marianne King: and then you have an assigned date. So it's been assigned to a planner, Jackson, Olson.

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Marianne King: and this is all we know, and there's you know there's no hearing. This is a a little different type of case, and I don't doesn't require a hearing. To my knowledge. I don't know the coastal development permits that well, but it says, case on hold. So that's just kind of note to self case on hold that could mean that the project planners already looked at this, and it's like, oh, I need Xyz from you. And and

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Marianne King: basically, they would send an email to the a letter to the applicant or email saying, You know, we need additional information. The only thing here in the initial submitted documents is, there's no plans, so you have an application which is the planning application. I'll click on that real quick

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Marianne King: and let me know. Does this show up or no?

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Marianne King: Yes. Good. Okay. So what I do is I scroll down and I look at You know I kind of do quick, exist existing site conditions. The next area is what I look at proposed project information, removal of any onsite tree removal of any street tree.

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Marianne King: So it's not checked off, so that indicates this. No tree removal. That's good, and I bet I never take anything face value. The only thing I do face value is what the aerial shows and what the plans show, and then it's like, i'll so that's it that's the planning application.

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Marianne King: But there's no plans here, so

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Marianne King: i'm gonna get out of there

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Marianne King: so findings

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Marianne King: they're They're not very helpful.

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Marianne King: Oh, well.

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Marianne King: that helpful to me I wasn't familiar with this coastal development permit. I've never deal with that. But anyways, there's findings here for for responses to all the findings

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Marianne King: and what I so i'm going to get out of this. So I Just so. We have that information. I'm gonna get out of this and go to Zemas

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Marianne King: and go and punch in that address.

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Marianne King: Where are we? They're seeing this.

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Marianne King: Can you see this? The zoning, the planning website page? No, okay. I'm going to share. Sorry about that. Here we go.

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Marianne King: Kinda

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Marianne King: Can you see it now. Yes, okay.

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Marianne King: So here is where you go into Zemas. You hit click on the zoning tab.

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Marianne King: and I go into zoning search, or you already have it set up with the Zoomus link, click on zoomus

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Marianne King: and put in the address, which was someone. Tell me the address.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Indiana Oops? Not right. Yeah.

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Marianne King: Say it again.

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Isabelle Duvivier: 8 3 3 Indiana.

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Marianne King: 3 3 3 hang on 8 8 3 3.

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Marianne King: Oh, this has been happening

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Marianne King: so it's not supposed to. I had. There's a lot of system problems with zoom as i'm having. I don't know if anyone else is that's familiar with this. I'll try it one more time.

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Marianne King: Actually, i'm gonna go to the next Oops. I'm gonna go the next address which I saw.

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Marianne King: Well, anyway, so there's no there's no trees on that site. So So this is the other project on your list.

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Marianne King: There we go.

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Marianne King: So this is we' switching gears a little. It's a next item, 6, 50 in Indiana. So i'm going to zoom in.

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Marianne King: And what I do is the first thing I do is this: where the tabs are the tools I click on change background layer.

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Marianne King: which is all this background layer on the right, the lower left hand side. Can you see that? Okay. So I go to the the most recent aerial photo. I click on that. And so now you have your

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Marianne King: your aerial

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Marianne King: this this oh, this isn't all! No, it's the other one with trees. Actually, I want to go back to this. So 3 3 3 3 3. Yes, it has some nice trees there. So anyways this one's fine. There, I mean it, my personal opinion. I just do a quick. It's like, okay, You know what? There's really nothing here. I move on.

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Marianne King: So i'm going back to.

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Marianne King: Can you just scroll down? It's just 2 blocks down. Oh.

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Isabelle Duvivier: you're on the same street, but you have to go 2 blocks further east.

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Marianne King: so East, I believe is this way? I think so. Yeah.

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Marianne King: I know what's next to the alley. Oh, is that it there? No. Oh, yeah, that's it.

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Marianne King: Man, I do. I know my aerials hang on.

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Marianne King: Okay. So this is like, oh, all right, so you can see the main dwelling here. That's the garage, and they're gonna add

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Marianne King: 200 square feet, where I don't know the only thing.

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Marianne King: So I have this aerial from 2,017, which is not necessarily recent. So Another thing you can do is the resource. Tab Here, click on that. Just use everything, and we'll go to

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Marianne King: We'll do Microsoft thing because I like I like the bird's side view.

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Marianne King: you can see the inside of the So birds I view.

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Marianne King: And so now i'm starting to see, you know, like, okay, these trees in the back are pretty tall. You can use this little link here that moves it around.

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Marianne King: and I think so. What we don't know. What we don't know is we don't have the plans, and we don't know where that 200 square foot addition is gonna go. Is it gonna require tree removal?

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Marianne King: You know a again. These are not. These are eucalyptus trees. I'm gonna switch out here and just show you the other. You know Street view. Obviously, I know most. You must all know this.

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Marianne King: Can I ask you a question about that application form? Yes.

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Isabelle Duvivier: it's it Asked if there were any trees to be removed. But did it ask if there were any trees on site? I didn't see that it didn't.

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Marianne King: I did not. So basically.

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Marianne King: It depends on the type of application here. You just you have I I don't, you know.

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Marianne King: If it's so, you have your planning application, and then the other

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Marianne King: form that is filled out as the type of entitlement requests. So, for example, if you have a subdivision, you're gonna have a subdivision application in addition to the planning application, or or you know, which would may require more detailed tree information.

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Marianne King: This the planning application is the the

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Marianne King: it doesn't. Ask that kind of detail, anyways. Here is one that's like. Is that a bluecom? Or yeah, there's 3 of them.

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Marianne King: Yeah, there's a couple of them really huge, beautiful trees. I would hate, you know, If I were on a neighborhood council I would really, and and I was able to weigh in I I would I would really want that to be preserved. So it's on the corner edge, you know. But people have all different opinions about, you know. Well, this

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Marianne King: not a protected tree, or it's not a native tree, then, you know, forget it.

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Marianne King: and it's a private property tree. Yes, exactly. But it is an abbot kidney tree, you know. I mean. Kenny was a big proponent of eucalyptus.

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Marianne King: so we could say on the coastal development permits. I saw I'll just show you one more thing. I hope. I'm not moving around too fast again. I You can email me, and I can. You know I I love to help with all the tools, because I think that this is how you just learn

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Marianne King: as you go, what type of project require, what type of information? So I remember

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Marianne King: you can go to development services. Can you see that. Okay, go to forums. So this is a coastal development. Permit.

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Marianne King: right? So I so forms and go to see. And I could have SW: yeah, coastal development permit.

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Marianne King: And this is what, in addition to that planning application form, this is also what's required. So this is how you get to know Like, Wait a minute. You know you are. Are Are they supposed to provide a landscape plan or not?

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Marianne King: I think what I saw here that I caught my eye was a type of trees.

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Marianne King: If you have sorry for the fast movement. Oh. I am not

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Marianne King: Well, I've got blue gum. I thought eucalyptus on in the coastal development area is has to be identified on the on. I can't find it now. So sorry about that, but it is on a checklist somewhere.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I thought it was general planning. Shelly might remember. We've seen that before. This is the raptors cause. Raptors use those trees, but I thought it was all General.

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Shelley Billik: I think it's on the tree disclosure form. Actually, i'm gonna look right now.

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Shelley Billik: Well, in the coastal zone, it would it? They would have to fill this out and say, if there's the 3 listed our blue gum.

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Marianne King: Red River gum, and any other eucalyptus species.

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Marianne King: There you go. Thank you. So which i'm like, okay? Well, so

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Marianne King: actually, I think I just touched on something here, note to self, everyone.

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Marianne King: So you know, this should be identified as a process, their application. And I would say, let's see those plans, and I would email the planner right now. I think I mean, I want to see these plans, and they're very. Can I slow you down a little bit?

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sarahwauters: This how do you tell If a project is required to fill out this form and the coastal

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sarahwauters: Development Forum. How can you tell that? And you back up and show us?

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sarahwauters: So you went in other forms, and these are all of the forms that could possibly be required. But when you go into the project, application does it indicate? Let's go and look at that.

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Marianne King: Hang on.

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Marianne King: I'm gonna go

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Marianne King: hold on just a second. I'm gonna go back into that. We're doing 8 3 3, right? Yeah.

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Isabelle Duvivier: you're asking. How do you know that it falls under the coastal Zone development.

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sarahwauters: Well, that's not what I want to know. My question is, where do I see that on the application? What are the Where does it indicate on the application, what forms are required.

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sarahwauters: If it does at all.

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Marianne King: it does hold on a second, because now i'm having a problem getting into.

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Marianne King: let me just try this one more time.

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Marianne King: So i'm having a problem with loading going back to when you click on the link from the early notification system, and you go to the in. This. Whatever submitted is all you have visibility of is whatever the department uploads.

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Marianne King: and until you ask for more, when you know that it's.

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Marianne King: Yeah, Anyways, in this case I'm still stuck, and it might be because we're all in it.

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Marianne King: Hang on. Let me see.

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Marianne King: Yeah.

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Marianne King: Well, anyways, to answer your question, Sarah, is, you would go to the application that was uploaded, and look at the look at the project entitlement request, and in this case.

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Marianne King: right here you can see it's a coastal development. Permit Mellor, and then Housing Crisis Act. Those are the.

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Marianne King: you know

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Marianne King: associated request.

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Marianne King: So coastal development permit. I don't know if this is in a coastal zone or not, or if there is a it is okay, so automatically. Lincoln is the dividing line

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Marianne King: anything east of lake and in Venice is requires a Cdp.

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Marianne King: All right.

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Marianne King: So yeah, I don't know. I just can't. Can I make an observation, or I ask a question very briefly, that that master application form.

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Mark Ryavec: from what I think you said is that it does not ask if there are any trees on side. Would it not

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Mark Ryavec: be helpful if we ask our Council woman to bring in a motion

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Mark Ryavec: to require that in the the front master form.

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Mark Ryavec: that

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Mark Ryavec: they that the question is asked.

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Mark Ryavec: How many trees over you tell me?

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Mark Ryavec: 12 feet tall, or

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Mark Ryavec: such, and such.

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Mark Ryavec: you know, with or something, are on the side.

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Mark Ryavec: And then the second question would be, Will they all be maintained?

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Marianne King: So the answer is just right up front for every single planning application.

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Mark Ryavec: No, no, that's not the question. I'm asking. Alright, then, if you're having to and everybody having to go and look. why don't, we just simply

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Mark Ryavec: make it a a a demand in the master application for every every project, how many trees over

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Mark Ryavec: 12 feet

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Mark Ryavec: or on site? And will they be maintained?

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Theresa Maysonet: Also? Good question I, if I could just interject. For 1 s we actually do have a motion right now. 150499 s. 2. That was submitted by Marquis Harris Dawson as a result of the Crenshaw processing debacle.

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Theresa Maysonet: and it requests that a site, assessment, and evaluation of the trees is upfront right at the beginning of the process.

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Theresa Maysonet: where they should document all the trees on the on the parcel. So there is such a motion already going forward.

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Mark Ryavec: and every planning project any development project.

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Theresa Maysonet: Yes, I believe so, for every project I mean not just your area, but city wide no city wide. It wasn't even my Council district that Harris Dawson is from Cdh, but it is right now. We're waiting for a report back from planning

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Theresa Maysonet: and planning is to work with the City Forest Officer and some other folks to design a form, so that the trees and the site assessment is done right up front. Shelley, if you want to chime in on that, or Isabel.

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Mark Ryavec: could you? Could you just send that

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Mark Ryavec: ordinance not ordered my resolution or motion

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Mark Ryavec: to

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Mark Ryavec: Sarah or the is about, and they could send it to me. What i'd like to do is to bring in a motion with our committee

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Mark Ryavec: to support that motion

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Mark Ryavec: and bring it before our Neighborhood Council.

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Theresa Maysonet: Okay, Great. Thank you very much. Mark you. If you go, I will give you the file number. The council file does already have support from, so that would be great i'm on. Unfortunately, I can't put it in the chat, but I will reach out to you is about.

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sarahwauters: Can you? Can you just say the number out loud. Sure it's 1, 5,

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Theresa Maysonet: Hmm. Dash 0 4 9 9 s 2,

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sarahwauters: 5 4 9 9 s 2

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Theresa Maysonet: correct. Thank you.

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Marianne King: I I do want to just just mark, just keep in mind.

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Marianne King: even though it's written, you know. If If

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Marianne King: whatever is written on an application always always cross-check.

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Marianne King: you always have to cross check anyways. So so it's written on the application. You look at the plans. Where are they on the plans? I look at the aerials, and you compare, and that's what that's what I do. Anyways, I don't take anything face value when it comes to smittles. So that's

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sarahwauters: that's my golden golden rule. I'm wondering also mark if it might be more efficient to check in with Tracy Parks office and see if she's already supporting this, because, if she is, it may not be worth.

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sarahwauters: You're right. She's already on board. Then I actually don't really want to rattle the cage of the the

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sarahwauters: folks at the Bnc. Because they might shoot it down to be honest.

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Mark Ryavec: Yeah.

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Marianne King: Okay, please continue, Marianne. Oh, well, I mean, I think I

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Marianne King: I don't know if this is. But basically this is what I do. I just run. I go go through the early. I think the early notification is your best tool

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Marianne King: First and foremost, to see what's coming down the pipeline.

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Marianne King: These are only for entitlement cases, you know. So you're gonna have projects that are by right that you will not get early notification of, and and the only time

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Marianne King: you know the the

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Marianne King: and I guess the only time you will know is when you start to see you know a posting or a construction going on, and that's when I go straight to my number One resources with Zemas and I look in Zemas and and I look to see. Okay, quickly. Can you see my zoom screen?

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Marianne King: Okay? I'm: on a different site. But what I do is like if I hear you know chainsaw is going, or whatever I go to the permitting and zoning compliance, and i'll click on view, Permit building permit info.

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Marianne King: you know you put in the project address first, or the subject address, and i'll see. Well, what do we have here? And everything is just kind of you have to keep clicking on it, and all we have. A you know Demo permit. Has it been issued yet? Well, let's see. Let me, You know the applications to middle. Usually it will say, issued

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Marianne King: here under status. So right now it looks like nothing's been issued.

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Marianne King: But this is super helpful code. Enforcement also is good. If anyone's complained about anything going on at the property. So this is your under Zeus. This is kind of my my go to.

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Marianne King: and also case numbers. I click on case numbers. and once you get familiar with

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Marianne King: prefix and suffix, and knowing what types of cases we're looking at this recent activity, it's an environmental categorical exemption.

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Marianne King: I don't see anything more recent except this is a

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Marianne King: parcel map exemption. Oh, wait a minute. Personal map.

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Marianne King: It's where they do a lot line adjustment. So parcel map. Exemption is what it's called. So the thing why, I would click on. Here is the categorical exemption.

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Marianne King: And now i'm stuck again.

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Marianne King: Oh, well, okay, so now and then. Oh, so normally you go to initial submitted documents. What you see there's nothing there. I would be calling, you know, emailing the planner, saying, you know, send the information which I did on this particular case. I I wanted to see the tree report.

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Marianne King: and here's the approved documents now.

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Marianne King: and so

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Marianne King: this gives you an idea as to something's going on at the site. How how did it get approved, or did it get, or did it get approved, so I

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Marianne King: so I use both the permit info and case numbers, and and this is, by the way, this this particular case here is a hall route.

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Marianne King: So all they asked for was this environmental review to do a Hall route. But the actual per sequence? The actual project is a demolition of this existing home, a a new home, a larger home, an AD. You swimming pool, a sports court. So basically they're going to be wiping out

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Marianne King: all these trees.

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Marianne King: And then this is also the owner's property back here. It's a very poorly. So what happened was just long story short. the planner issued a categorical exemption. I had asked to put me on the interest your parties list and me a copy of it. He did not. So now it's like, oh, well, what do we do now? I can't appeal it because it's 15 days later, you know. I found out a month after this was done.

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Marianne King: so it's kind of I I i'm in I'm waiting for the planning department to get back to me. But I've asked if they can re-issue the categorical exemption so I can respond accordingly. And my my concern is this: should have been a mitigated negative declaration

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Marianne King: that there should be a biological assessment. You know this is this is near an open space area a Santa Monica Conservancy Mountain Recreation Conservancy, you know, owns, and so

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Marianne King: I think they need to do a little bit more, and it's. It's definitely in my even though they plan to protect all the protected trees. There's 39 protected trees and shrubs. There's 100

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Marianne King: 17 trees. Yeah, something like that that are proposed to be removed. It's a long story. Sorry. What Council District is this?

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Marianne King: This is CD: 4, 4.

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Shelley Billik: Okay.

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Marianne King: Yeah. So

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Marianne King: So this is, kinda and I found this through going through the really notification. It's like, Well, there's a lot of trees on that site, and the you know, you know we we pass the wildlife ordinance, but it and it it. It is in this area, but it hasn't been approved by City council yet.

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Marianne King: and in this case the applicant applied before that, you know ordinance. So it doesn't necessarily that ordinance doesn't apply to this project. But the problem is, I think there there was not enough, you know. Adequate review for the environmental

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Marianne King: right? Okay, yeah.

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sarahwauters: Great. So it's 1 11, and I know that we've lost Isabel. She had to go one unless she's still here, not seeing her. No, I think she's gone, and I would like to give an opportunity to folks to ask some quick questions, and then we'll. We'll try to move through the rest of the agenda, although it looks like we're a little short.

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sarahwauters: but i'm hoping that we can adjourn by 1, 25, 1, 30. So is there anybody that has some questions for

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sarahwauters: Marianne? Joanne? Go ahead.

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Joanne D'Antonio: You You might not. This isn't exactly a question. But on that Marquis Harris Dawson motion that passed City Council on May 30 first of last year, so it passed is, has been waiting for a 30 day report back since then.

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Joanne D'Antonio: And

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Joanne D'Antonio: so if if you want to talk to your Council Office about lighting fire on getting these report back because they tend to drag, especially if they're coming from urban forestry. The planning department, the City Forest Officer, any of the above.

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Joanne D'Antonio: and what would be great is if people were able to get progress reports on these so that we would know. Okay, we have a form. We're doing this, we're doing that. We just it. It just goes into silence, and a lot of times nothing happens.

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Joanne D'Antonio: So i'm just pointing that out. And it so it I mean, obviously the the maker. The motion is the first one that should like to be, you know 5 should be lit under, and maybe, Teresa, do you have any any kind of a progress report from

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Theresa Maysonet: Harris, and I know he's not your councilman, but just wondering I I don't, and I don't want to hijack their their meeting. But no, I Don't Joanne, that's really Robin's contact. Rapid is CD. 8, c. Fact representative. She really is the one

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sarahwauters: that can answer that.

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sarahwauters: I think, Joanne, that's that's good information. Thank you for that. Because when we go I think we should go and reach. I might personally reach out to Tracy Park about it and ask for that. You know this is important to us. I'll do a little bit of background research first, and then we'll. We'll say, hey, can you please drive this forward.

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sarahwauters: Yeah. And I I just forwarded the motion to Isabel. Just so. You would actually have it in a Pdf: Thank you, Teresa Andreas. What's your question?

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andreas kemkes: Trees that were cut down on Glenden in?

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andreas kemkes: And I was wondering whether we could just go through the motion and figure out whether there was any permit.

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Marianne King: So that was Isabel to me up on that. So there are 2 addresses. It was

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Marianne King: Yeah.

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Marianne King: So you should be able to use your handy dandy list that I put together or just go to zoomus. Yeah, I was. I was trying to to, maybe do that. But

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Marianne King: okay, Well, i'm, I'm I you can. I gave you. I'll do my email again. I'm: glad to help you offline as well. So 1,620, Glenden. Yeah, I I checked there. There's there's no

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Marianne King: permits, no recent permits submitted, and there is no related case, so

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Marianne King: well it may. I don't know enough about what trees were there. If they weren't protected trees or not in a specific plan that requires trees be protected, I mean other than the you know. City ordinance protected trees.

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Marianne King: Then a homeowner can cut down their trees. I mean, I I hear it left and right in my neighborhood. It is a very heart wrenching thing. But yeah, so you know, probably what's gonna happen is they're probably gonna do, you know, an 80, you or you know, second dwelling or yeah, so

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Marianne King: it's where they could just be selling the house. Excuse me, I sorry this is Powell. Yes, actually that was in front of the property, and I stopped to the the treaty, or I tell him what the hell are you doing? And it's like. It's ruining his is taking down the house because the foundation issue, so they always as an excuse.

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Paola Pini: And you know, nobody really check if that tree was having creating issue with the foundation. The neighbor told me that that house was going to foreclosure. So I don't know what they're doing. A lot of work on the and is a very small properties. But basically you know, I think, that

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Paola Pini: the the owner is always gonna have a a reason against us why they're demolishing or not. I mean, why they are removing a tree. It's very upsetting. But

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andreas kemkes: yeah, so so the only reason would be at, or. of course, with

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andreas kemkes: to do something political right to get an ordinance past that protects better on on private properties.

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Hmm.

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Marianne King: Thank you. All right. We we don't have a a strong pre protection policy for the city at the end of the day we're spinning our wheels, trying to save a tree here or there, but we just don't have enough to make it happen. That's the that's a sad

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Marianne King: state right now. But

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Marianne King: no, it looks like John

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sarahwauters: or Michelle has a question.

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: Yes, thank you very much.

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: A a question i'm from Northridge South up in

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: a variety of projects that

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: we've looked at.

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: Your statements earlier about the earliest possible notice

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: is absolutely critical, and getting the information and getting in

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: to make a position statement with the developer, etc. What we've noticed is a developer will come in. pick a site. 5 for the demo permit

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: on the demo permit, it will state. clear the property. and

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: almost to the number. The developer will take

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: buildings, etc. Were there Demo remove it from the property.

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: And oh, by the way, they take the trees as well.

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: We go back to building and safety and say, hey.

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: you're not watching these trees the first thing out of building and safety is oh, we don't do trees. So the the at hand here is that without that early notice.

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: and if they do get approval for the Demo permit.

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: and at State Center, which most do, from what I understand, clear the property, get the garbage off so that we can begin the next step. The trees are taken out and gone. The only people that know about that

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: for the neighbors.

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: any suggestions on how to get even earlier notices on that, because oftentimes they don't go to the the Neighborhood Council to seek permission.

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Marianne King: Well, if I can speak for c. Fact, because I attend most all their meetings, so they're working on changing the language on right jump in as well

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Marianne King: to for demolition per permits not to use that wording. Clear the lot, because it's being used just as that. I mean clearing everything trees and structures. So

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Marianne King: I don't know where we're at on that. But yes, that is a

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Marianne King: that's a a problem. And I had. I had, you know I had a I don't have any suggestions other than just be

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Marianne King: where you know the alert, and ask if I may, if I may, Marian, if that perhaps Isabel has her hand up, and she can let us know

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Isabelle Duvivier: I didn't have my hand up about that. I think Marianne's exactly right. We're we're working on it. Joanne's working on it. She dropped off the call. She and I have been working with building and safety to try to get

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Isabelle Duvivier: the demo permits to have a line item. And actually we've been working with Mary Ann. So the 3 of us have been working very closely with billing and safety to get at least Demo permits to have on them whether or not there's a tree. But right now the only thing we can actually request is that they say.

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Isabelle Duvivier: if there's a protected tree on the property, and or possibly a public tree. So the other trees.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah, we're not able to get that. But I was gonna say to John and or Michael or Michelle, I can't tell what that is that you know. The best way to do this is, we just have to be squeaky, squeaky, squeaky, squeaky. We have to keep talking. Keep irritating. There is so much great press for us. It's all bad news, but it's really good press. Jay Ross emailed me while we were in this meeting. Something

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Isabelle Duvivier: I can't remember what it was, but something about in new fees not being utilized in.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Let's see it's in city watch this news story that just came out. I mean, there's just a lot of publicity and a lot of concern around trees. So

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Isabelle Duvivier: email your Council member, stay in touch with C Fact. Come to our meetings. Help us help you, cause Cfac is basically Shelley, Marianne, Theresa, Joanne and I and and we can't do all of this work.

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Isabelle Duvivier: We're trying to model Pasadena. And so, if you have any connection with Pasadena, we love to learn from how they protect their protected trees.

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Isabelle Duvivier: They're the I think, Joanne said statistically. They are the only city that has not lost tree canopy in the county

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Isabelle Duvivier: over the course of the last 20 years, and we've lost a significant amount. So we just have to keep being noisy and squeaky. But the reason i'd raise my hand is to apologize for leaving early, and I have to leave again.

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Joanne D'Antonio: Okay, bye, guys, we are kind of up against it. Joanne. Do you have your hand up? Yeah, I do. I just want to say the Neighborhood Council is supposed to get a demolition notice, and you can use those demolition notices for trees

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Joanne D'Antonio: to call the the person they don't have addresses, but they have a phone number on it. You can try to badger them and tell the developer or the owner that they that they are

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Joanne D'Antonio: that that will clear a lot doesn't mean, any more than structures, and building and safety will verify that they they they use the word clear law to only mean structures.

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Joanne D'Antonio: and that that is their understanding. So if they're asked, do you mean the trees, too? They'll say, No, we're just talking about the structures we are trying to get the language changed. And I I have a little bit of a hope because

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Joanne D'Antonio: we've made a relationship with Randall Winston, who is the new deputy mayor for infrastructure, and I think that we may be able to get him to ask building and safety to fix this, because

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Joanne D'Antonio: we've gone to the top of building and safety, and they really aren't

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Joanne D'Antonio: paying that close attention to us. I mean, they pretend they are. But really they're not.

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John and Michele Hales NSNC: Hey, Man.

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Joanne D'Antonio: Yeah. But I think we will.

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sarahwauters: Okay, Thank you so much, Joanne. I mean, I. This really does clear it up for all of our members who are here that the process is in is ongoing. But that last detail that you told us.

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sarahwauters: Joanne, which is that when a demo permit is issued, building and safety is

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sarahwauters: only issuing a permit for the destruction or the demolition of buildings. Because guess what building and safety doesn't do trees? That's what they tell us. So they are not giving permission to rip out trees. Now we still have the issue that legislatively. Most most owners can simply take out their trees if they like, unless it's a protected tree, and unless it has, you know, greater biological

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sarahwauters: biodiversity implications, so you know. But we can still be the squeaky wheel, as Isabel says so. If if Joanne and John are done, you guys still both have your hands up. But I would like to just move on. We've got 5 min left, and I think I think we're gonna have to

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sarahwauters: table both tree walks and trees on Venice way, because these are kind of meaty subject matters, and maybe we'll have to have a special meeting to cover those. Isabel. Are you wanting us to solicit everybody for their ideas for tree walks? Is that the primary

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sarahwauters: reason that we'd like to have that on the agenda.

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sarahwauters: Yes, okay. So everybody who's on this call who would like to have input into the next tree walk. Please email Isabel and I about the Tree Walk ideas you have. It looks like Robin has an idea right now. So, Robin, go ahead.

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Robin Murez: Hi! Sorry. Actually, this morning at the farmers market. I was asked to inform you that there's a ridiculous motion that's going to be on the Vnc board agenda to have the Vnc. Create, recreate the Venice Home and Garden Tour. It's illegal.

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Robin Murez: but they don't get it a. B. And C cannot be doing fundraising, and it cannot have people going on to private property. But

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Robin Murez: Jim mentioned that you guys are doing the Tree walk. He said it as like a garden walk, and he said, Perhaps you want to also speak up, so that people know, during the Board meeting that you are already doing something awesome and and how it's going through a nonprofit. It's not through the Vnc: that's all.

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sarahwauters: Okay.

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sarahwauters: Okay, great. Thank you, Robin. I appreciate that. Okay. So once again, please, all of you. When you have an idea for a tree walk you want to do, or right. Now, please put your thinking cap on and go ahead and email Isabel and I about areas that you would like

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sarahwauters: for us to do a tree walk. And then we were going to talk about trees on this way, but I think we're going to have to put that off, because that's a pretty meaty subject.

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sarahwauters: So with that. Are there any other comments that we're not on the agenda, and you'd like to have them agendized for next time.

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sarahwauters: Anybody.

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sarahwauters: I put your hand up. Let me check and see.

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sarahwauters: How do you have your hand out.

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Paola Pini: Hold on a second. Let me close the home.

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Paola Pini: Sorry I don't really have a comment about the next agenda, but I wanted to just speak up a little bit. I mean, if I can, about what we should say about the planning.

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Paola Pini: One issue that we find here in a span is also in the on the coast of the area.

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Paola Pini: Is that all in complete or the paperwork? And we are receiving over and over the planner don't respond to us, or when they respond, they say, oh, I don't know what happened. So applicants with me

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Paola Pini: mit ctl, and incomplete or erroneous information about not only about the tree, about humans, you know. There's people like they're doing the subdivision. And one person was actually living in the unit, and they said it was no tenants, 150;

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and even when we give this information to the.

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Paola Pini: to the subdivision people, the daa, or something, they seems to kind of forget about it. They don't really care. And so I was wondering.

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Paola Pini: or you're reaching, that you can make a difference when there is this lack of transparency or lack of accountability, because we have full of them here at in Venice, especially because we have the first from zone. It's like a group of

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Paola Pini: Planner that those those project. And now we're going to be very big travel, since it's the Tracy Park picked one of those to be the

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Paola Pini: the Council Office planner.

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sarahwauters: And so, Marian. Perhaps you can speak to this because you've talked about going to the Supervisor, but I've I've been skipping a couple of steps. I always go to the Project minor. First get that person a chance

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Marianne King: if there's no response after so many tries, or if it's urgent and no response. Then every project, plan, or my understand well what I. There is a supervisor

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Marianne King: which is generally a city planner, and then there's a senior planner.

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Marianne King: and then there's a principal planner, and and then, of course, you have your your deputy planner, which is Lisa Weber, for you know, project planning. But I would you know I would

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Marianne King: try it out. Go to the next line of of of higher, you know management and supervisor saying, Sorry to bother you, but I've been, you know, Submit it asking for this information, and I haven't received any response. And you know, can you help me? That's it? I mean it doesn't have to.

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Marianne King: And then hopefully you will get a response from that supervisor, and it's important for that supervisor to know someone's not responding. Trust me this this happened way too many times, and and my

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Marianne King: my tenure, and it drove me up a wall. So one i'm the only person, I think, that, and picked up the phone, and they'd be like, Wow! Wow! You you know. Voice, you know.

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sarahwauters: Where do we find out who

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Marianne King: the line other management is? Where do we go to that list is that on the city plan?

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Marianne King: Well, there's 2 places. There is a city directory on the on the

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Marianne King: City La City website. There is a directory which I think is more for every department.

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Marianne King: It's very informative, and then you have on the planning website. You have a a assignment list, not as

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Marianne King: cut and dry.

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Marianne King: but usually, you know, whatever the geographic area is, or the or the community plan or specific plan, the project planner for that area will be there with the phone number, and then there should be a unit head which would be the supervisor.

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Marianne King: Okay, that's right, saying that, Marianne, we've been going to Webster. So we go all the way on top, and the issue is that.

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Paola Pini: let's say you cannot fix the project that has been already demolished, or that the application has been approved. The next project happens again, and so it's like there is no one, no oversight. It's like I don't know if Venice is

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Paola Pini: like a magnet for this kind of developer, but all their application are very

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Paola Pini: incomplete to the point that the owner is not the right owner. There is like, you know. It's like it's so bad that you cannot. But the promise, like they never try to make it right the next time. Even. You know you don't go after the planet because it's just executed certain things.

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Paola Pini: but they kind of carried the the lie for the for the developer to a point that it's kind of unbelievable, even though we send them picture. You send them everything, and they have it in front of them, and we invite them to come out to the side

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Paola Pini: they don't come out, and they rely on a zoom as Max Area, pointing out on a on a property that is already been subdivided doesn't look like that, and they keep insisting. Oh, you see, the building is over the property line. What that building doesn't exist. So it's just. It's incredible to me. I'll.

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Marianne King: We need to make them more accountable for when they make a mistake, and i'm trying to. You know we went to their tony. I mean, we went everywhere, but it's like you. We have no traction because he happens over and over. Well, when all else fails. That's what your Council elected Representative Council members for.

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Marianne King: So you know it's unacceptable, and I would, and that's where I would go.

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Marianne King: So you've gone to the top of city planning. And yeah, that that would be my next step.

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Paola Pini: Thank you.

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sarahwauters: Yeah, thanks. Guys. Okay. So on that note I think we'll adjourn. I want to thank both Teresa. If Theresa is still here, and Mary Ann for attending and making these excellent presentations for us.

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sarahwauters: and I look forward to seeing everybody. Next month I will. There is a bit of follow up, obviously, so, please. Once again I want to encourage all of you guys to put in your tree walk ideas.

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sarahwauters: And then also, Robin has encouraged us to make sure that we vote.

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sarahwauters: So that's really important, and there's a number of other things that I do. I can't call up right now, but I do want to encourage everyone to to use these methods that Marianne has put forth, so that we can try to get into these projects earlier than we have in the past.

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sarahwauters: Okay, thanks. Everyone have a great day.

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Shelley Billik: Thank you.

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sarahwauters: Thank you, Shelly, and attend the Loopee meetings. Speak up at Lupeck. Yes, Lupex hopefully. We can re-elect ahead, of Lupeck. Yes, thank you guys. Okay, take it easy. Everyone

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sarahwauters: Happy Happy Saint Patrick.