WEBVTT 1 00:00:29.390 --> 00:00:30.340 jim murez: Test. 2 00:00:57.910 --> 00:00:59.410 jim murez: Mary I'm promoting you. 3 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:05.560 barrycassilly: Okay, i'm here. 4 00:01:05.730 --> 00:01:13.850 jim murez: I talked to Mikkel earlier. I'm going to be making you co-host. Wait 1 s. I can't what you say? I'm going to be making you co-host. 5 00:01:14.600 --> 00:01:16.400 barrycassilly: Yeah. Well. 6 00:01:16.810 --> 00:01:23.470 barrycassilly: City Attorney evidently called like I know all about that. 7 00:01:23.600 --> 00:01:27.510 barrycassilly: I'm not. I'm not going to be participating. I don't know who else is, but 8 00:01:27.570 --> 00:01:31.940 barrycassilly: well, everybody who is going to run the meeting is not participating. 9 00:01:33.250 --> 00:01:34.190 so 10 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:37.230 barrycassilly: Frank and I are going to try to make get by. 11 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:45.030 jim murez: The city attorney is asked if the meeting be put on hold for a week or 2. 12 00:01:45.630 --> 00:01:51.390 jim murez: They didn't ask anybody, Mikhail, that we're not putting on hold. They They asked me that we're not doing it. 13 00:01:52.890 --> 00:02:03.400 jim murez: Yeah, I know you feel very strongly about it so very strongly that, like this is crazy at the last minute. No, it's not, but it is what it is. I'm promoting the call. 14 00:02:07.320 --> 00:02:13.970 jim murez: I I can't force you to do it, you know, to to put it on. Hold it doesn't cost us anything to put it on all but 15 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:16.790 jim murez: well, your your guys decision. 16 00:02:19.860 --> 00:02:23.160 barrycassilly: but the city attorney didn't ask me to put it on hold 17 00:02:23.760 --> 00:02:24.870 barrycassilly: or m. 18 00:02:25.810 --> 00:02:27.770 jim murez: That's not what I understand. 19 00:02:28.410 --> 00:02:32.290 barrycassilly: If I know that well, my accounts here, let's talk to my account. 20 00:02:32.300 --> 00:02:34.220 jim murez: Yeah, i'm trying to promote Frank. 21 00:02:34.900 --> 00:02:36.180 barrycassilly: Yeah, we need Frank. 22 00:02:37.200 --> 00:02:39.960 jim murez: Frank's got to accept. He's not accepting. So 23 00:02:40.600 --> 00:02:44.430 barrycassilly: i'll tell him to accept. There he goes. He just did. Okay. 24 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:55.280 jim murez: So after the after Mikkel calls the meeting to order and does the roll call. 25 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:02.600 barrycassilly: everybody has to get off, and anyone else that wants to recuse themselves can. 26 00:03:03.030 --> 00:03:09.860 barrycassilly: Okay. But let me ask you this, though, can, because Lauren has some familiarity with how to run the zoom. 27 00:03:11.410 --> 00:03:19.080 barrycassilly: Can we also promote or or put her as a co-host. Well, Frank knows how to run the zoom. Well. 28 00:03:19.230 --> 00:03:24.110 Michael Jensen: this will be the okay 29 00:03:24.530 --> 00:03:29.290 Michael Jensen: you. The host and then he can make ferry will be a co-host, and then, if 30 00:03:31.040 --> 00:03:46.080 jim murez: necessary, also, we can add Lauren as a co-host and that'll be that for once once Frank becomes host. He can add anybody, he his code. If Frank hangs up or the gets disconnected, the meeting ends. 31 00:03:46.940 --> 00:03:57.630 barrycassilly: Don't hang up. Frank. Frank is your sound on. No, I won't be Well, I won't. No, you won't hang up. Thank you very much. 32 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:09.860 Michael Jensen: So, and I i'm not really going to get into like what the city attorney did or did not say honestly that offices sort of once makes my head explode right now. So. 33 00:04:09.880 --> 00:04:14.140 but need to say, a bunch of people put this in their calendar. So 34 00:04:14.660 --> 00:04:17.899 Michael Jensen: you know people were recused that. 35 00:04:18.209 --> 00:04:21.519 Michael Jensen: you know, determine after the queues, and the meeting will go on. 36 00:04:24.290 --> 00:04:28.580 barrycassilly: We'll do the best we can, but it won't be what we're expecting. 37 00:04:28.890 --> 00:04:30.260 frank murphy: Well. 38 00:04:30.400 --> 00:04:44.810 barrycassilly: was did anybody? Is the woman from Mta gonna be showing up this evening, or that's our understanding, and our understanding was also, or we thought she was going to have a presentation. 39 00:04:45.410 --> 00:04:47.130 barrycassilly: But let's see. 40 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:48.900 frank murphy: Okay. 41 00:04:48.980 --> 00:04:49.860 barrycassilly: Okay. 42 00:04:50.350 --> 00:05:00.760 barrycassilly: I mean, if she doesn't, I mean, if she has a presentation, I mean. Then I do. Can we out loud, like community members, to ask her questions or questions? All only come from the boards 43 00:05:02.070 --> 00:05:09.280 frank murphy: all right that you have my experience comfortably but fairly. The bottom of the bottom line is that you have to treat everyone fairly. 44 00:05:09.280 --> 00:05:28.490 jim murez: If it's a committee member. You can give committee members equal whatever they do. If it's public comment, you can get people public comment equally. Frank Frank's done this a lot. He he handles the committee real well. He gives everybody a minute to ask a question, then on half a minute to follow up again, and he can do it. However, he wishes he'll, he'll be the host. 45 00:05:28.490 --> 00:05:29.310 barrycassilly: Okay. 46 00:05:35.510 --> 00:05:37.280 frank murphy: all right. 47 00:05:46.710 --> 00:05:53.770 Michael Jensen: And, Frank, I guess I will go ahead and promote both of you guys to co-host now, so you can start 48 00:05:54.100 --> 00:05:59.100 jim murez: bringing in the members of your committee, and then, Frank, I will 49 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:03.660 jim murez: promote you the full host in a minute after I execute 50 00:06:05.870 --> 00:06:07.180 frank murphy: you got it. 51 00:06:07.300 --> 00:06:08.290 jim murez: Thank you. 52 00:06:13.690 --> 00:06:15.730 frank murphy: So you guys are both 53 00:06:15.880 --> 00:06:20.220 jim murez: co-hosts now. and you can start promoting more folks. 54 00:06:21.430 --> 00:06:27.360 jim murez: Okay, actually I can make very of co-host now, too, and he can help this while if he wants. 55 00:06:27.910 --> 00:06:29.350 barrycassilly: should I be able to? 56 00:06:29.650 --> 00:06:30.830 barrycassilly: How I, 57 00:06:30.850 --> 00:06:44.100 jim murez: your your very, your role, just change. So you should be able to on there, now that you're a co-host, I see that. But now, now, when you see this in the audience, yeah, now, when you go to the attendee list. 58 00:06:44.430 --> 00:06:53.120 jim murez: you should be able to look at the right hand side. If you put your cursor over the 3 dots you'd see where you can 59 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:56.610 jim murez: click on the 3 dots and promote someone to a panelists. 60 00:06:56.670 --> 00:06:59.310 barrycassilly: So you mean the 3 dots is the view. 61 00:06:59.650 --> 00:07:23.120 jim murez: No, you just put your put your cursor on the person, and then you'll see the 3 dots you mean the participants. Yeah, you First it's on participants, and then on the left. You'll have panelists on the right. You have attendees, You look at the attendee list, and anybody that's on your committee. You click on the 3 dots, and you tell them that you're promoting them to panelists they have to accept. 62 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:37.510 barrycassilly: When I see when I click on participants I see 13 participants, but I see 4 pan panels that don't see the participants. You see, it's 9 attendees on the right hand side. 63 00:07:42.730 --> 00:07:43.760 barrycassilly: Okay. 64 00:07:45.460 --> 00:08:00.310 jim murez: So you're an expert already, now one for those. So is from CD. 11. What do we do about one? You wait until you get your panelists in there for you. Get. Wait, Wait until you get your committees together, so that way. You have a an easy head count after you get them in, and if you want to. 65 00:08:00.380 --> 00:08:01.550 jim murez: as 66 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:14.230 jim murez: you know, CD. 11 people do it after you get your committees that way you'll know that you have a quorum. I think you have to have 5, and I don't know how many Frank has. Now 67 00:08:14.650 --> 00:08:18.960 Michael Jensen: what's the name of the Metro person? 68 00:08:23.400 --> 00:08:25.500 Hold on, let me. 69 00:08:26.540 --> 00:08:27.130 Yeah 70 00:08:30.070 --> 00:08:32.900 Michael Jensen: one. What was the name of the woman from Metro? 71 00:08:33.510 --> 00:08:38.429 frank murphy: Well, i'm not up on their oh, there in there! He turns it off. 72 00:08:39.980 --> 00:08:46.950 jim murez: He I saw him a minute ago. Yeah, he changed now. He's on the panelist side. Now somebody promoted it 73 00:08:47.910 --> 00:08:53.460 Michael Jensen: that I was saying. I'm just asking him a question. Maybe I did that by accident. 74 00:08:53.570 --> 00:08:54.680 barrycassilly: Okay? 75 00:08:56.370 --> 00:09:02.870 barrycassilly: Asked to unmute. I'm asking him to unmute. I've I've already done that, too. But okay. 76 00:09:02.970 --> 00:09:06.190 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: Paddy, I think we're talking about Patty. Can you hear me, Patty? 77 00:09:06.230 --> 00:09:09.970 Michael Jensen: Yes, thanks. Vaughan. All right. I'm gonna send you back to the audience. 78 00:09:10.130 --> 00:09:17.500 Michael Jensen: I don't see her here. But wait. Isn't, he okay, I understand. So I just wanted to know who we should be looking for. So, Patty. 79 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:26.900 jim murez: there's no, not yet. There's a we got time. There's a page, but there's no 80 00:09:27.030 --> 00:09:28.640 frank murphy: yeah, we've got time. 81 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:37.920 barrycassilly: Oh. 82 00:09:38.060 --> 00:09:38.960 6 83 00:09:39.750 --> 00:09:42.910 jim murez: is is pat on your committee, Frank. 84 00:09:43.710 --> 00:09:44.550 frank murphy: Yes. 85 00:09:46.870 --> 00:09:49.880 barrycassilly: yeah, there he is. I got him. Okay. 86 00:09:56.950 --> 00:09:58.460 frank murphy: Hey, Pat, you're up. 87 00:09:59.210 --> 00:10:00.760 How's it going, guys? 88 00:10:01.140 --> 00:10:02.570 frank murphy: How's it going, man? 89 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:04.520 PatRaphael: So far, so good. 90 00:10:04.790 --> 00:10:08.620 barrycassilly: I need to call people. I need to call people prompt them to get on. 91 00:10:09.490 --> 00:10:10.620 jim murez: It's up to you. 92 00:10:11.170 --> 00:10:28.670 barrycassilly: Well, you have to have a quorum, your committees of 9, and you just said it. We we have that arranged in advance. But people Aren't: yeah, to be sure, you got 5 people to be able to. We're working on our do. We have to have a If we're not voting on anything 93 00:10:28.760 --> 00:10:30.530 jim murez: to conduct the meeting? You do. 94 00:10:31.690 --> 00:10:42.630 jim murez: You do? 95 00:10:46.570 --> 00:10:49.660 PatRaphael: Yeah. Each of you guys has to have a a forum for your temple. 96 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:52.100 Bye. 97 00:11:06.210 --> 00:11:09.440 jim murez: I see, Laura, is there Somebody wants to promote her? 98 00:11:11.280 --> 00:11:14.150 jim murez: Look, Lauren, is that it? 99 00:11:14.610 --> 00:11:17.110 frank murphy: Okay? Then Connie is there. 100 00:11:17.380 --> 00:11:18.800 jim murez: or excuse me, Karin 101 00:11:19.910 --> 00:11:22.910 barrycassilly: Karen's into 102 00:11:23.400 --> 00:11:25.330 frank murphy: I'll promote, and 103 00:11:25.730 --> 00:11:29.800 barrycassilly: because she can you call what's his name? Chris? 104 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:32.780 Michael Jensen: I'm. Texting them 105 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:33.820 barrycassilly: Okay. 106 00:11:35.980 --> 00:11:37.050 lauren siegel: hey? Guys 107 00:11:37.530 --> 00:11:39.590 barrycassilly: hey? How's it going on, Brian? 108 00:11:40.270 --> 00:11:41.060 corinne Baginski: Hi. 109 00:11:43.300 --> 00:11:44.300 frank murphy: hey, Lauren. 110 00:11:46.070 --> 00:11:51.850 lauren siegel: Like what's going on? How much? Not much same old game. 111 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:53.770 frank murphy: Brian's in 112 00:12:24.580 --> 00:12:25.560 barrycassilly: adding. 113 00:12:37.220 --> 00:12:37.910 Yeah. 114 00:12:44.920 --> 00:12:46.290 Michael Jensen: Chris should be gone in a minute. 115 00:12:46.460 --> 00:12:51.420 barrycassilly: I see somebody named Wells Lawson from La Metro. 116 00:12:53.510 --> 00:12:55.110 jim murez: Yeah, he's a big chief. 117 00:12:56.310 --> 00:13:01.810 barrycassilly: Well, I don't know what I mean. I see him in the meeting here. So do we want to 118 00:13:02.020 --> 00:13:09.950 barrycassilly: bring him on as a panelist. You can decide that after you do roll call. 119 00:13:10.220 --> 00:13:14.050 Michael Jensen: Okay. So so land use has a quorum. Now. 120 00:13:16.500 --> 00:13:18.660 Michael Jensen: Frank, are you guys, do you guys have a 121 00:13:19.390 --> 00:13:20.570 frank murphy: not yet? 122 00:13:20.630 --> 00:13:21.360 Michael Jensen: Okay. 123 00:13:22.160 --> 00:13:23.430 frank murphy: Hey, Chris? 124 00:13:23.710 --> 00:13:24.570 Christopher McLean: Hey. 125 00:13:25.270 --> 00:13:26.200 barrycassilly: Hey, Chris. 126 00:13:26.830 --> 00:13:29.250 Christopher McLean: how are you? Nice to meet you, Frank? 127 00:13:29.690 --> 00:13:31.880 frank murphy: Hey, Chris, how are you doing? 128 00:13:32.190 --> 00:13:33.100 Christopher McLean: Good? 129 00:13:35.890 --> 00:13:38.160 frank murphy: Let's see. 130 00:13:49.420 --> 00:13:52.020 barrycassilly: Do we need to get Vicki to call people for you, Frank? 131 00:13:52.920 --> 00:13:55.290 frank murphy: Well, if 132 00:13:55.350 --> 00:14:04.820 frank murphy: if Vicki comes on well, I i'd have to call her, but if she came on she could complete the form. I'm just calling. 133 00:14:05.040 --> 00:14:06.750 frank murphy: Stand right now. 134 00:14:06.800 --> 00:14:08.760 barrycassilly: Yeah, let me talk to Vicki. 135 00:14:09.740 --> 00:14:15.610 jim murez: Yeah, keep in mind that if if if somebody drops out of the meeting and you no longer have quorum. 136 00:14:15.620 --> 00:14:17.510 jim murez: the meeting has been 137 00:14:31.370 --> 00:14:34.990 Michael Jensen: for a joint meeting, is that the case if one committee loses quorum? 138 00:14:35.250 --> 00:14:44.990 jim murez: Yeah, because it's you're both both. I mean my understanding. The last time it was to happen that both committees have to have all their members there, because that's how the meeting was posted. 139 00:14:48.110 --> 00:14:57.280 jim murez: It. It makes it complicated. But yeah. it it's, you know it's it's more complicated than having a serial meeting, but it gives both committees the opportunity to speak to each other. 140 00:14:57.580 --> 00:14:58.850 Since this week 141 00:15:01.190 --> 00:15:01.920 2 counts of 142 00:15:02.140 --> 00:15:05.800 barrycassilly: I see Vicki's there now, Frank, you we can speak to her. 143 00:15:06.620 --> 00:15:10.730 Vicki Halliday: The last contact was in October. 144 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:13.590 barrycassilly: What's going on? Who's got a radio going on. 145 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.160 barrycassilly: Hey, Renee? 146 00:15:24.660 --> 00:15:30.180 barrycassilly: I can hear you. We need a couple more people from your committee 147 00:15:31.400 --> 00:15:33.510 barrycassilly: is there are people you could text 148 00:15:37.760 --> 00:15:42.070 jim murez: how how many people are are on the on the homeless committee. 149 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:46.490 jim murez: Frank Vicki. 150 00:15:46.630 --> 00:15:47.220 Yes. 151 00:15:48.810 --> 00:15:49.740 PatRaphael: 8, 152 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:51.850 barrycassilly: Hey, Pat? 153 00:15:53.880 --> 00:16:00.390 frank murphy: 8 of us. I'm: Sorry. 8. Okay. So that you need. You need to have 5 members here. How many do you have here now? 154 00:16:01.590 --> 00:16:03.350 frank murphy: I've got one. 155 00:16:05.380 --> 00:16:06.530 frank murphy: 2, 156 00:16:07.850 --> 00:16:09.050 frank murphy: 3, 157 00:16:10.380 --> 00:16:16.150 frank murphy: and I'm looking for stand stands coming in for with Brian. 158 00:16:16.300 --> 00:16:19.230 barrycassilly: But that but you have 5, because you count, don't you? 159 00:16:20.830 --> 00:16:26.340 frank murphy: Yeah, I I I think I count on myself, but i'm looking for Stan. He he's trying to get on. 160 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:32.530 jim murez: So there's only 11 panelists at this point, and i'm one of them, and i'm not on either committee. 161 00:16:32.970 --> 00:16:40.250 jim murez: So there's 10 people, so I think 5 of which or more are you on both committees. 162 00:16:41.790 --> 00:16:49.470 frank murphy: There's 4 people from is Manush on both committees. 163 00:16:56.700 --> 00:16:57.860 frank murphy: Hi, Stan. 164 00:17:01.330 --> 00:17:03.910 frank murphy: Oh, let's find Jody. He's coming. 165 00:17:08.230 --> 00:17:11.880 barrycassilly: Sorry to everybody in the audience. This is taking a moment. 166 00:17:13.390 --> 00:17:14.079 Hmm. 167 00:17:15.250 --> 00:17:18.190 barrycassilly: They can hear me. They can hear us right. Yes. 168 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:30.480 jim murez: okay. Then I should probably explain what's going to happen to people. We let M. Kell call the meeting to order it, Frank, and we have the quorum, and I can call it to order. But 169 00:17:30.590 --> 00:17:32.700 barrycassilly: okay, sounds good. I'll be. Oh. 170 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:33.480 barrycassilly: wait. 171 00:17:34.270 --> 00:17:35.480 jim murez: thank you. 172 00:17:47.390 --> 00:17:53.370 frank murphy: Jodi. Signing on right now, so we've got a quorum from us as soon as he gets here. 173 00:17:58.130 --> 00:18:00.080 Keep an eye out for him. 174 00:18:07.320 --> 00:18:09.830 Brian U: We already have. 175 00:18:10.300 --> 00:18:13.390 Brian U: Jody makes 6. We have 5 already. 176 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:16.280 barrycassilly: Okay. So what do we do now? 177 00:18:16.630 --> 00:18:22.600 frank murphy: Well, we're going to. We're going to lose Vicki as soon as we. 178 00:18:23.350 --> 00:18:24.540 Michael Jensen: But I guess 179 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:37.590 Michael Jensen: yeah, we can take attendance and do that, and then add Jodi, and when we get when when he shows up well, i'd rather Jodi be here, so we're not. So we don't have to stop after attendance before we actually 180 00:18:42.140 --> 00:18:43.020 frank murphy: all right. 181 00:18:44.620 --> 00:18:48.710 Vicki Halliday: and if somebody can explain what's role is taking what's going on. 182 00:18:48.840 --> 00:18:53.720 Vicki Halliday: I will. I'll do that. That would be that would be awesome. 183 00:18:53.730 --> 00:18:54.710 Vicki Halliday: Thank you. 184 00:19:12.030 --> 00:19:12.700 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Hmm. 185 00:19:26.330 --> 00:19:26.910 Yeah. 186 00:19:27.740 --> 00:19:30.680 frank murphy: Juan has his hand up. Do you want to 187 00:19:31.370 --> 00:19:33.030 barrycassilly: sure. Yeah. 188 00:19:33.350 --> 00:19:34.730 frank murphy: let him in. 189 00:19:35.520 --> 00:19:36.770 barrycassilly: Let him talk. 190 00:19:37.190 --> 00:19:38.590 frank murphy: Yeah, that's what I meant. 191 00:19:39.760 --> 00:19:47.180 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: I i'm sorry, guys. I I meant to take it down when you guys mentioned. Well. 192 00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:56.780 barrycassilly: this is way easier than I thought. 193 00:20:02.120 --> 00:20:03.830 Michael Jensen: Okay, we've got Jodi 194 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:05.270 barrycassilly: Great. 195 00:20:06.380 --> 00:20:07.580 barrycassilly: Let's move on. 196 00:20:14.280 --> 00:20:18.200 Jody Mortimer: Okay, I'm: here. Now, thank you, Frank, for 197 00:20:19.020 --> 00:20:20.120 frank murphy: all right. 198 00:20:21.350 --> 00:20:28.390 Michael Jensen: Okay. So i'm I it is 7, 10. Thank you for bearing with us everyone in the audience. 199 00:20:28.980 --> 00:20:31.510 Michael Jensen: I'm gonna call the meeting to order. 200 00:20:31.840 --> 00:20:39.690 Michael Jensen: So I think what i'm gonna do. I'll go through roll call and i'll. I'll share announcements. I will go over what's gonna happen. 201 00:20:39.780 --> 00:20:43.730 Michael Jensen: So let's start off Corinne 202 00:20:43.860 --> 00:20:44.820 corinne Baginski: here. 203 00:20:45.840 --> 00:20:47.750 barrycassilly: very here. 204 00:20:48.560 --> 00:20:49.930 Michael Jensen: Andrew 205 00:20:52.360 --> 00:20:53.380 Michael Jensen: Lauren. 206 00:20:53.580 --> 00:20:54.400 lauren siegel: Here. 207 00:20:55.550 --> 00:20:58.090 Michael Jensen: Matt Royce 208 00:21:03.930 --> 00:21:06.520 Michael Jensen: Christopher. 209 00:21:06.770 --> 00:21:07.650 Christopher McLean: Yeah. 210 00:21:08.450 --> 00:21:10.220 Michael Jensen: I am here. Jeff 211 00:21:11.360 --> 00:21:13.500 Michael Jensen: Frank, do you want to do your committee 212 00:21:13.910 --> 00:21:17.790 frank murphy: for my committee? Brian? 213 00:21:22.420 --> 00:21:24.130 Brian U: Yep. 214 00:21:24.380 --> 00:21:26.160 frank murphy: Collect 215 00:21:28.710 --> 00:21:29.630 frank murphy: Pat 216 00:21:29.940 --> 00:21:30.820 PatRaphael: here? 217 00:21:32.080 --> 00:21:33.100 frank murphy: Liz 218 00:21:35.060 --> 00:21:36.740 Vicki Halliday: Vicki. Here. 219 00:21:39.150 --> 00:21:40.230 frank murphy: stand 220 00:21:40.840 --> 00:21:41.680 Ansar Muhammad: here. 221 00:21:42.250 --> 00:21:44.180 frank murphy: Jody. 222 00:21:44.360 --> 00:21:45.210 Jody Mortimer: Yeah. 223 00:21:45.940 --> 00:21:47.410 frank murphy: And Frank here. 224 00:21:49.780 --> 00:21:50.790 frank murphy: Okay. 225 00:21:55.950 --> 00:21:57.820 frank murphy: pass it back to you. 226 00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:00.350 frank murphy: Yeah. So 227 00:22:06.300 --> 00:22:10.870 Michael Jensen: yeah. So let me just go over what's going to happen here because 228 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:15.700 Michael Jensen: we had a bit of a last minute derailment of 229 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:18.330 Michael Jensen: I take every element. But 230 00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:27.350 Michael Jensen: there are a number of people who have who live within a 1,000 feet of this, the site that we're going to talk about tonight. 231 00:22:27.470 --> 00:22:28.580 Michael Jensen: and 232 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:48.060 Michael Jensen: based on the advice of the city attorney, have been asked to recuse themselves from the discussion. So I am one of those people. I live within a 1,000 feet of this place, despite the fact that not necessarily any emotions going on. You know I I have to recuse myself. 233 00:22:48.150 --> 00:23:00.150 Michael Jensen: I am not alone in that, so there's going to be a bunch of bunch of us of this meeting is going. I'm gonna pass the gavel. Frank's. It's a join meeting. Frank is going to share it very and I think 234 00:23:00.250 --> 00:23:01.980 Lauren will be co-chairs 235 00:23:02.060 --> 00:23:11.960 Michael Jensen: and we'll be running the Lupex side of it. And so with Well, Frank, i'll let you if you have a another announcement to do. But 236 00:23:13.050 --> 00:23:14.220 Michael Jensen: that's my 237 00:23:15.210 --> 00:23:18.870 Vicki Halliday: Okay, what do we have to recuse Michael? 238 00:23:20.430 --> 00:23:21.320 Vicki Halliday: Now? 239 00:23:22.090 --> 00:23:28.730 frank murphy: No. When we call up the the presentation that we're going to be doing? 240 00:23:29.280 --> 00:23:39.690 Vicki Halliday: Okay, so it's the sixth thing on the agenda, I mean, you know there's there's a not a whole lot before that. So obviously, if you need to cut out. That's not an issue. 241 00:23:41.250 --> 00:23:50.300 jim murez: So, Frank, i'm going to go ahead. This is Jim, your as I'm going to recuse myself. I live within a 1,000 feet, actually 500 feet of the site. 242 00:23:50.360 --> 00:24:08.650 jim murez: I'm. I also want to make it very clear to everyone that the city attorney did contact me, and she recommended postponing this meeting, putting it on hold for a week or 2, so it would be possible for her and the city to better understand what the implications 243 00:24:08.650 --> 00:24:16.400 jim murez: of refusal and what conflicts there may or may not be for everyone, and and she was referring to the entire board. 244 00:24:16.580 --> 00:24:18.730 jim murez: So anyone that had 245 00:24:18.730 --> 00:24:40.690 jim murez: lives or or works excuse me, lives or owns property within 500 or then it's not clear if it's 500 or 1,000 people. Last time it was a 1,000 feet. This time she throughout 500. It it it's it's very unclear. It has to do with the type of project that it is, and who's the owner of it, and and all sorts of other things. So that was her recommendation. You put a hold on the meeting, and Don't conduct it 246 00:24:40.690 --> 00:24:53.450 jim murez: until the city can get back to us. So i'm going to recuse myself at this point. I'm going to pass the gavel now as far as the hosting of the meeting. I'm going to sign off. And right before I do, I'm gonna make Frank the host. 247 00:24:54.220 --> 00:24:55.040 jim murez: Thank you. Bye. 248 00:24:55.120 --> 00:24:56.260 frank murphy: Thanks, Jim. 249 00:24:56.550 --> 00:25:00.850 frank murphy: All right. So just confirm for me that You see that your host now? 250 00:25:02.120 --> 00:25:21.740 Michael Jensen: Yeah, I actually I mean, we have a couple of things to get through before we actually get to the side on. But since Jim, I don't know why you're making chair announcements during the chair announcement period. That's what the city set up. This isn't. This isn't to be debated right now, Jim. But thanks for the info. 251 00:25:21.870 --> 00:25:24.240 frank murphy: And 252 00:25:24.500 --> 00:25:29.740 frank murphy: yeah, I assume i'm host, because i'm looking at all these new things I can do. 253 00:25:29.980 --> 00:25:33.140 barrycassilly: I have no idea what they are. But 254 00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:39.220 frank murphy: anyhow. I wanted to comment on that, and of course. 255 00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:58.410 jim murez: a comment. We we weren't going to call a meeting and then call it off. A half an hour before the meeting was to to Frank. I need to make sure your host, before I disconnect or the meeting will terminate. I terminate. How do I determine that if you look at the list 256 00:25:58.570 --> 00:26:02.810 jim murez: where it says panelists, it should say host, next to your name. 257 00:26:03.300 --> 00:26:06.450 frank murphy: It does. Okay, Goodbye. Thank you. Thank you. 258 00:26:07.020 --> 00:26:11.930 frank murphy: Okay. Good. So it didn't cancel us off. Okay. 259 00:26:11.990 --> 00:26:19.900 frank murphy: So the the reason why we wanted to continue with this is, it's a discussion meeting. 260 00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:24.580 frank murphy: and I wanted to stress a couple of points before we get into it. 261 00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:27.270 frank murphy: This meeting 262 00:26:30.070 --> 00:26:37.740 frank murphy: is solely concerned with the future use of the Mta parcel. This is not a meeting 263 00:26:38.560 --> 00:26:42.350 frank murphy: concerning the current use of the bridge housing. 264 00:26:42.800 --> 00:26:49.480 frank murphy: so we want to address what is has already been. 265 00:26:52.510 --> 00:27:04.780 Michael Jensen: Can I stop you before you start talking about the agenda item, because I want to. Can you do that Intro after we get through the other stuff? Good enough. I have to let you use my 266 00:27:05.770 --> 00:27:15.360 Michael Jensen: all right. So just we have some housekeeping things minutes from our March second meeting, and, Frank, i'm sorry I put it on the. I didn't think about the fact that I put this on a join meeting. 267 00:27:15.410 --> 00:27:17.090 But can I have a motion? 268 00:27:17.330 --> 00:27:20.010 Michael Jensen: Yes, and 269 00:27:21.590 --> 00:27:24.590 lauren siegel: a second? Sorry. Who was that 270 00:27:25.090 --> 00:27:26.440 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: morning. 271 00:27:27.690 --> 00:27:31.020 Michael Jensen: Okay, very. 272 00:27:31.330 --> 00:27:32.680 Michael Jensen: And. 273 00:27:35.490 --> 00:27:36.480 Michael Jensen: Chris. 274 00:27:40.750 --> 00:27:44.470 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I'll come back to Chris. 275 00:27:45.650 --> 00:27:49.130 Michael Jensen: I will vote. Yes, of Barry. 276 00:27:49.180 --> 00:27:49.950 barrycassilly: Yes. 277 00:27:50.290 --> 00:27:56.170 Christopher McLean: yeah, Sorry. I couldn't get my on my mute, too. So this is Chris. Yes. Here. 278 00:27:56.550 --> 00:28:03.210 Michael Jensen: Okay. And then, Barry, that's 5. I haven't missed anyone. Right? Please raise your hand if I okay. 279 00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:05.710 Michael Jensen: Thank you. 280 00:28:07.520 --> 00:28:08.380 Michael Jensen: Now 281 00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:18.480 Michael Jensen: to the recusals declarations of conflict of interest. So I have to frank You'll take the gavel i'm recused because I live within a 1,000 feet. 282 00:28:18.560 --> 00:28:20.340 Michael Jensen: and 283 00:28:20.830 --> 00:28:22.020 Michael Jensen: Thank you, everyone. 284 00:28:27.760 --> 00:28:29.240 barrycassilly: What happened to Vicki 285 00:28:30.750 --> 00:28:32.080 Vicki Halliday: I'm leaving. 286 00:28:32.150 --> 00:28:36.450 barrycassilly: I think he's also refusing. 287 00:28:36.700 --> 00:28:39.610 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Oh, go. Okay. 288 00:28:40.280 --> 00:28:41.830 frank murphy: all right. So 289 00:28:42.700 --> 00:28:52.670 frank murphy: we can enter into the we have a the seventh item on this on the agenda is general public comment. 290 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:55.700 frank murphy: We have 1 min First speaker. 291 00:28:55.850 --> 00:29:04.700 frank murphy: Does anybody want to speak on? The general public comment is is this for items, not on the agenda. 292 00:29:04.820 --> 00:29:14.010 frank murphy: This is for items. not on the agenda. No comment on items appearing on the agenda are permitted. 293 00:29:15.530 --> 00:29:17.220 frank murphy: She, J. Cole. 294 00:29:20.830 --> 00:29:29.820 CJ Cole: C. J. And a meeting like this we're keeping. The quorum is important. I would recommend that everybody had the 295 00:29:29.930 --> 00:29:47.280 CJ Cole: at least, you know, so that we can see a block for them right now. It looks like we only have 5 people in attendance out of the 2 committees, and I know there are 2 recruiting recusals, but there's no excuse. You guys can't be on, you know, on the screen here. 296 00:29:47.330 --> 00:29:54.460 CJ Cole: If you don't want to give me a picture, at least give me a block with your name in it. So I know you exist. Thank you. 297 00:29:56.300 --> 00:29:57.450 frank murphy: Okay. 298 00:29:57.470 --> 00:29:59.330 CJ Cole: Still, on saving people. 299 00:30:00.140 --> 00:30:02.160 barrycassilly: All right. Thanks. Cj. 300 00:30:03.020 --> 00:30:06.510 frank murphy: So, sean O'brien. 301 00:30:10.890 --> 00:30:12.750 frank murphy: you need to on mute. 302 00:30:12.870 --> 00:30:24.290 Sean Obrien: Yes, thanks. Yeah. I just wanted to say i'm very disappointed with the city attorney's recommendation. We can't even get the the distance 500,000 feet. 303 00:30:24.310 --> 00:30:30.960 Sean Obrien: We have some of our best, most knowledgeable people having to recuse themselves for a huge 304 00:30:31.140 --> 00:30:36.910 Sean Obrien: thing, and you're not even making any motions. You're not voting on anything. I just wanted to say that. Thank you. 305 00:30:37.140 --> 00:30:37.900 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Hmm. 306 00:30:39.010 --> 00:30:43.070 frank murphy: Thanks, Shawn. Lisa Redmond. 307 00:30:47.170 --> 00:30:49.820 Lisa Redmond: Yeah. 308 00:30:50.120 --> 00:30:51.760 Lisa Redmond: thank you. Good to meet you. 309 00:30:51.810 --> 00:31:04.180 Lisa Redmond: I think it should be also pointed out as a conflict of interest, that Mr. Cassilli wrote a wildly biased article regarding potential 310 00:31:04.420 --> 00:31:12.200 Lisa Redmond: possibilities for this property, and that should be stated as a conflict of interest on that it was published in a widely read 311 00:31:12.290 --> 00:31:16.070 Lisa Redmond: online publication. Thank you. 312 00:31:16.760 --> 00:31:17.960 frank murphy: Thanks, Lisa. 313 00:31:20.950 --> 00:31:29.590 frank murphy: All right. That is all of the hands that we're up. So we're down to the let me scroll down here real quick. 314 00:31:29.710 --> 00:31:34.190 frank murphy: Yeah. So we are on to the presentation. 315 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.940 frank murphy: The discussion for the 316 00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:42.080 frank murphy: Mta. Lot at 100 sunset. Frank. Frank: yeah. 317 00:31:42.220 --> 00:31:46.750 barrycassilly: do we want at this point, do we? Wells? Lawson 318 00:31:46.840 --> 00:31:51.690 barrycassilly: may have something to say, I think. Do we want to promote him to panel? 319 00:31:52.030 --> 00:31:59.540 frank murphy: Yes, is yeah. Well, that's what that's where I was going. So we have a couple of people in here, don't we? 320 00:31:59.830 --> 00:32:02.640 frank murphy: Wells Lawson. I'll promote 321 00:32:02.970 --> 00:32:04.010 frank murphy: him. 322 00:32:04.030 --> 00:32:05.980 barrycassilly: and 1 1 323 00:32:06.100 --> 00:32:08.500 frank murphy: sure for Goza. 324 00:32:09.490 --> 00:32:11.610 frank murphy: Oh, where'd you go? There we go. 325 00:32:12.300 --> 00:32:22.150 frank murphy: I'll promote him. Is there anybody else? We should be promoting out of this the attendee list. 326 00:32:22.410 --> 00:32:28.950 barrycassilly: I don't think so. If there's somebody they could. 327 00:32:29.190 --> 00:32:36.490 frank murphy: and if Wells or one know of anybody, let us know, you know, if you have somebody else that's joining. 328 00:32:39.530 --> 00:32:44.490 frank murphy: and you'll have to unmute yourself. Wells. And what else is joining from Metro? Thank you. 329 00:32:44.740 --> 00:32:48.210 frank murphy: Okay, thanks. And one you can unmute. Well. 330 00:32:50.110 --> 00:32:52.710 frank murphy: all right, so 331 00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:58.280 frank murphy: you go, Barry. 332 00:32:58.830 --> 00:33:00.200 barrycassilly: Well, I was 333 00:33:02.020 --> 00:33:11.890 barrycassilly: I. I wanted to unmute Wells and see. Oh, wait a minute. Wait wait, Barry. I just I didn't make my statement there I got cut off. By 334 00:33:12.510 --> 00:33:29.440 frank murphy: which was basically I it's reiterate that this is only concerning the future use of the Mta lot, not the present use as bridge housing. So yeah, in in that light I I wanted to say one thing about that. 335 00:33:29.780 --> 00:33:39.330 barrycassilly: This is, this is not a definitive meeting in any way, shape or form. This is the first meeting of many. So I think that 336 00:33:39.450 --> 00:33:52.440 barrycassilly: you know people could maybe relax a little bit about. You know all these procedural things. The concerns Jim had, I think, will be resolved for next meeting. But there there will be many meetings on this subject. 337 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:53.770 barrycassilly: Okay. 338 00:33:57.490 --> 00:34:05.090 frank murphy: okay. Mr. Lawson, do you want to speak to this one? 339 00:34:07.950 --> 00:34:15.040 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I think that I have a presentation that I I can share sort of happy to re-establish 340 00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:21.139 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: kind of a baseline of information, so that we can start to start that conversation. I would agree. That's the first of many 341 00:34:21.210 --> 00:34:27.810 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: meetings, and in part, you know many of you. I know Jim's on the other side of the of the screen here, and others. 342 00:34:27.909 --> 00:34:36.610 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I haven't seen you for 3 plus years, and I think that's why we're here today to talk about what's next, and where we've been, and what the plan is for Metro. 343 00:34:36.739 --> 00:34:50.460 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: So why don't I lay out that information just as a baseline, so we can have a good conversation and feel free to interrupt me as I go if you have questions. But hopefully, I'm at least going to shed some light on where we're headed. Does that make sense? 344 00:34:50.780 --> 00:35:00.790 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Yeah, sure. Do you need to share screen. I will share it now, and it looks like I've been granted the privilege. 345 00:35:03.150 --> 00:35:07.300 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: and I just need to do the thing where 346 00:35:08.530 --> 00:35:11.340 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: here we go so 347 00:35:12.300 --> 00:35:26.010 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: for those who don't know. And you know we have spent a lot of time in Venice preparing for the ultimate long-term permanent development of the the division 6 site, as we call it, at Metro, the Venice, the Bus Yard, the Mta lot. 348 00:35:26.010 --> 00:35:36.630 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: But I did just want to spend one slide. It reintroducing people to the Metro joint development program for those who are new to what we do. So 349 00:35:36.630 --> 00:35:47.170 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Metro for Decades has had a program where we take what we call remnant property that typically has been left over from the construction of new rail lines. 350 00:35:47.170 --> 00:36:04.700 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: and we, we take it, we partner with local jurisdictions and communities, and ultimately developers to build transferring to developments on Metro owned property. The Bus Yard is a little bit different, because there is no ostensible transit use. Yes, there is a bus Stop! There's no rail line beneath it. 351 00:36:04.750 --> 00:36:10.330 and it's not exactly remnant. It's. It's a 100 year old site, as you all know 352 00:36:10.420 --> 00:36:19.520 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: that Metro had retired some years ago, as it consolidated its bus operations to a new division. 353 00:36:19.630 --> 00:36:37.640 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: So in Well, i'll give you some of the history. In a second, let me dive in what we generally do is construct these properties with private developers on long-term ground leases. So Metro itself Isn't building the housing. Metro is always retaining ownership of the property. 354 00:36:37.730 --> 00:36:42.870 and we work with private developers to realize the community's vision for the site. 355 00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:55.150 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: and, as you can see on our big goals are number one to support that community vision. That's where we start. We do a lot of community outreach, and we try to establish what is wanted locally for the for the site. 356 00:36:55.300 --> 00:37:08.300 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: We also do have a increasingly intense mandate upon us to encourage housing for diverse income levels all the way now from 0% of the area meaning it Median income. Or am I 357 00:37:08.310 --> 00:37:16.570 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: up to 120% of the area median income? So a pretty good, broad spectrum of the housing ladder. 358 00:37:16.940 --> 00:37:31.480 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: We generally try to encourage high quality, architecture, and urban design, we believe in place making is essential, and integral to mobility, especially around our stations, where those those projects that we build are gateways to our system. 359 00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:45.380 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Obviously good development adjacent to transit can drive ridership when it's comfortable and convenient to live adjacent to a rail station that will support Metro's ridership and improve this patron experience. 360 00:37:45.410 --> 00:38:03.990 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: And the other kind of newer piece is that we do receive revenue for for ground leasing these properties. Metro makes makes money on these properties, and we have by Paul, as a matter of policy chosen to reinvest those back into transit oriented communities. And so we've. 361 00:38:03.990 --> 00:38:14.080 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: you know, try to treat it like a real real estate portfolio that has to perform and give us a return. But in general, what we're fundamentally trying to do is reinvest in that community vision. 362 00:38:14.710 --> 00:38:29.870 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: So with respect to the parcel, as we call it, Division 6. It's just by way of orientation again. For those who did not know, I suspect pretty much everybody here knows, but it is just a few blocks from the beach. It's at the foot of Abbott Kinney. 363 00:38:29.870 --> 00:38:38.050 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: and it's a 3 acre parcel so fairly unusually large, parcel right here in the heart of of that community, between sunset and main. 364 00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:54.780 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: by way of background, reiterating that in 2,016, the Metro Board, with Bonnin leading the charge directed Staff to determine a permanent reuse for the for the Bus Yard 365 00:38:54.780 --> 00:39:04.810 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: through the Metro joint development program. So again using the program that's usually used for transitoring to developments as a tool to revitalize and and reuse this site 366 00:39:05.080 --> 00:39:20.420 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: in what felt like not too long after the bridge housing project that we're not discussing tonight was proposed by Bonn and Carcetti, and with that coincided with our community outreach process for the permanent reuse of the site. 367 00:39:20.570 --> 00:39:22.940 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I personally was 368 00:39:22.980 --> 00:39:41.170 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: very encouraged by the quality of the dialogue that I think we had through those series of meetings. I'll talk a little bit more about outreach, but I've been to be very welcoming. Community actually thought we made a lot of progress, and hopefully, it's still all that still there for a good foundation to move forward 369 00:39:41.410 --> 00:39:42.620 in 370 00:39:42.630 --> 00:39:57.800 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: part of what we do when we work with communities is, we capture the communities. interest in the site, their priorities, their requirements for the site in a document we call development guidelines, and if I had better use of technology I would drop a link 371 00:39:57.810 --> 00:40:12.720 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: in the chat. I'll do so later in the meeting to the development guidelines that were ultimately adopted for the site in 2,019, those guidelines were attached to a request for qualifications to developers in 2,019, 372 00:40:12.720 --> 00:40:26.690 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: which was part of a 2 step process, we thought and weren't wrong, that there would be a lot of interest in the site. So we wanted to do a kind of first past screening to make sure. We only had a list of qualified developers who were really capable of developing the site. 373 00:40:26.780 --> 00:40:30.830 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: and and we took their recipients a. 374 00:40:31.160 --> 00:40:42.010 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I believe we got 7 responses, and we developed a short list based on their qualifications of 5 different developer developer teams in December, 2,020. 375 00:40:44.110 --> 00:40:51.860 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: There. just kind of highlight the extent of the community outreach we did. We started with a series of focus groups 376 00:40:51.940 --> 00:41:04.260 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: trying to remember where that was. But I can have it in my mind's eye. We had a a a workshop, and For the first time, Pre Covid, we attempted a virtual workshop using 377 00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:13.200 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: an online platform, and then we follow that with another workshop, which is more of a report back on what we'd heard in the first workshop about those community priorities. 378 00:41:13.230 --> 00:41:22.630 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: We paired that with a. Immediately afterwards we did a walk about, walked around the site and around the community. then had another virtual workshop, where we 379 00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:34.670 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: parallel what we had done in person, and replicated that digitally, so we could get a broader audience, and we did get a broader audience. We got, I believe, some 2,500 380 00:41:34.780 --> 00:41:47.790 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: participants in that survey in that virtual workshop, mostly through the Facebook posts, etc. So it was an interesting way to to round up what was also a very high quality in person dialogue. 381 00:41:47.950 --> 00:41:58.050 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Ultimately we had an open house all along the way. We were doing some pop ups at the farmers market. We were there with a booth, and I think my next slide has some photos. 382 00:41:58.190 --> 00:42:14.680 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: you know, just trying to to the goal was to diversify the means and modes by which we were actually talking to people, so that not everyone who had the time to come in the evenings and sit in the chair and talk also had that they had other ways to participate. I don't have it here, but 383 00:42:14.700 --> 00:42:30.680 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: we walked around with an ipad for a while, and and it helps people kind of fill out an online survey there to try to get more people, people sort of just on the everyday people on the street and get their input as to what ought to be on the site. 384 00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:49.630 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: The result of that process process, as I said, was the development guidelines and the key highlights of the Development guidelines are one. The site is big it should be broken up into 2 blocks and contain a walk street to kind of mimic or replicate the the walk streets in the neighborhood. 385 00:42:49.870 --> 00:43:00.060 It. It was important to have ground floor uses that included flexible community space. So not just retail but flexible community space. And in particular, my recollection is 386 00:43:00.140 --> 00:43:03.090 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: flexible community space to support artists. 387 00:43:03.160 --> 00:43:14.720 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: The the mural, the Po. W mi a mural that appears on the back of the site should be retained and incorporated into any future development. 388 00:43:15.010 --> 00:43:34.790 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: The working closely with the Coastal Commission, which I i'm sure you all know, is is essential to the process. We determine that we needed to dedicate some public parking for coastal access, If that is an absolute requirement of the Coastal Commission, so the site would contain public parking to support the community, and it encourage 389 00:43:34.820 --> 00:43:36.850 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: access to the shoreline. 390 00:43:37.090 --> 00:43:51.870 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: But at the same time others in the community outreach process, as well as the coastal commission in the city encouraged us to really push the envelope to try to identify the mobility enhancements that encourage that could encourage non automobile access 391 00:43:51.890 --> 00:44:07.710 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: to the shoreline, so that folks weren't, you know, to to discourage people from driving to Venice and just parking. So we're trying to do both things, you know, belts and suspenders to make make the community a little bit more livable, support the businesses in the neighborhood, and 392 00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:29.880 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: meet that objective of supporting access to the coastline. And then, finally, we felt like there was enough value in the site that we could establish for the first time a lead gold standard for the project. Typically, our projects are lead silver. So we outlined in this document what that means beyond, above and beyond, just the legal standard we you know drop tolerant. 393 00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:38.760 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: you know, off-grid where possible, or relying on recycled materials, etc. 394 00:44:41.210 --> 00:44:56.160 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: So, as I said, we received 7 submittals and response that our queue in February 2020, we know what happened shortly there after, you know. The the pandemic ensued, but we persevered and shortlisted 5 teams. 395 00:44:56.160 --> 00:45:10.270 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: each of which fundamentally had very strong experience. Resolving coastal commission issues that was essential to making sure that we could get through the process. They all emphasized community engagement, as was our request, so they have the capability of 396 00:45:10.270 --> 00:45:17.090 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: continuing that good community dialogue is the projects being designed and and contemplated all the way through construction. 397 00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:35.580 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: The developer we felt needed to have sufficient financial capacity to address a site. This large and complex that invariably will need to address many different needs and interests of the community. And then we were looking for a team that had an affordable housing developer as part of that team. And so all 5 teams 398 00:45:35.580 --> 00:45:37.590 have this experience in place. 399 00:45:37.820 --> 00:45:40.730 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: So, June 2020. 400 00:45:40.790 --> 00:46:00.450 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: We have planned to release the Rfp. But it's almost hard at this point for even me to remember. But we were sort of in a free fall at Metro, trying to understand where the resources lie lay, and whether or not this was something we should be focusing on. And then, further. 401 00:46:00.450 --> 00:46:16.750 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: the there was some uncertainty in the market, we weren't sure if it was actually the right time to release the Rfp. There wasn't clear that we were going to be able to have those those 5 developers actually respond. And even more importantly, once we kind of got caught up with that 402 00:46:16.950 --> 00:46:32.480 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: the State surplus Land Act was amended, which raised important and complicated legal issues for Metro. With respect to how we actually do joint development, the Surplus Land Act could be a whole presentation in itself, but it essentially 403 00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:44.730 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: creates a new process by which public agencies, including Metro and including Metro's joint development program, are obligated to prioritize properties for affordable housing first and foremost. 404 00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:56.700 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Our joint development policy already does that. So it's not exactly it wasn't exactly at odds, but it wasn't clear if even the existing joint development projects we had running at the time were 405 00:46:57.080 --> 00:47:09.250 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: able to move forward, so we were definitely in a freeze mode, trying to resolve that for nearly the course of a year, working through our council and trying to understand the issues. 406 00:47:09.460 --> 00:47:27.920 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: We believe we've overcome them. We've resolved them, but it did slow us down, and and in the process we started. We adopted a new policy to conform with this State Surplus Land Act, and we, as you'll soon be hearing more about this began the strategic planning effort to 407 00:47:28.220 --> 00:47:46.980 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: to grow the joint development portfolio to 10,000 units by 2031, which became a Metro Board mandate in that process of adopting the new policy. So here we are, March 2023, and we are ready to release that Rfp as early as next week. 408 00:47:47.220 --> 00:47:48.450 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: and 409 00:47:48.750 --> 00:47:59.530 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: what we want to do is get a sense from you tonight, where where everybody's at our our. This is our schedule as it is, but we want to encourage a dialogue around this. 410 00:47:59.540 --> 00:48:01.120 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: We would 411 00:48:01.160 --> 00:48:12.350 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: release this Rfp. In March. We'd have the responses coming back and evaluate them in the summer. That would allow us to come back to the Metro board with a recommendation for a developer in the fall. 412 00:48:12.420 --> 00:48:21.980 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Once we do that, then the developers on board they take the lead on the community engagement. We're still there. We don't go away, but the developer has to take responsibility for continuing that 413 00:48:22.020 --> 00:48:31.850 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: community conversations. So you would start to whoever the developer is, you would start to see more of them in the spring. 2,024 They would hopefully be here speaking with the Vnc. 414 00:48:33.590 --> 00:48:52.360 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: And one thing that's kind of going on in the background is many of you know. There's a structure on the site that structure has some lead in asbestos in it there's also a mostly cell. Conditions were addressed previously, but there may be some remaining soil. Conditions that have to be addressed Environmental 415 00:48:52.360 --> 00:49:08.360 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: remediation must be conducted in order to resolve that so that process we would propose to start in the summer of 2024, or even sooner. It is true, as I understand it, we just got news today that that structure is 416 00:49:08.780 --> 00:49:13.360 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: potentially very compromised, and we may need to move on the demolition sooner than we thought. 417 00:49:13.420 --> 00:49:22.070 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: All that's good, though, because it readies the site for development. When everybody is ready to move forward. So that means we're not bringing on a developer 418 00:49:22.070 --> 00:49:39.040 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: going through the steps of authorizing the joint development agreement ground least, and then everybody has to wait for the developer to do the remediation ofatement of demolition after we've already executed that deal so hopefully, that helps to accelerate and and meet everyone where they're at. When the site is ready to be reused. 419 00:49:39.080 --> 00:49:53.480 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: That would allow us to break ground on the project in 2026. Most projects are taking about 18 months, sometimes 2 years, if they're more complicated, so that means the move-in date would be 2028 for the new residents 420 00:49:53.590 --> 00:50:03.400 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: development's always a long road I think everyone knows. So this is a pretty reasonable and conservative schedule we have put out here. 421 00:50:04.730 --> 00:50:11.840 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: So that's it. That's the the baseline. But i'm I just wanted to get that out there to help 422 00:50:12.020 --> 00:50:15.680 get the conversation started, and I'm happy to answer questions as they come up. 423 00:50:16.830 --> 00:50:19.130 frank murphy: All right. 424 00:50:20.270 --> 00:50:23.840 frank murphy: one. Would you like to add in there 425 00:50:27.450 --> 00:50:28.770 frank murphy: any 426 00:50:28.820 --> 00:50:38.480 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: in terms of the development or anything. No, I think we'll we'll let Metro kinda take the lead on that I can give them some brief updates, but once we're done with. Metro is my section. 427 00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:40.230 frank murphy: Okay? 428 00:50:40.940 --> 00:50:47.350 frank murphy: Well, I think we can. We have 20 attendees 429 00:50:47.680 --> 00:50:52.750 frank murphy: if we keep the questions really concise and to the point. 430 00:50:53.020 --> 00:50:57.620 frank murphy: You have about 30 s to do a to ask a question 431 00:50:58.270 --> 00:51:08.020 frank murphy: as an attendee, and then and then I'd like to do the attendees before the panelists, because that gives us further. 432 00:51:08.260 --> 00:51:13.180 frank murphy: You know more information as to what we might ask as committee 433 00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:21.760 frank murphy: as committee members, so do any of the attendees want to participate. 434 00:51:22.630 --> 00:51:29.230 frank murphy: We have. 435 00:51:29.460 --> 00:51:42.200 frank murphy: Yeah, we'll get more. Yeah, Hope. So give a few minutes. Well, let's start. Let's go ahead and start. I guess we start with Sandy Buffalo Bluff. 436 00:51:43.310 --> 00:51:49.040 lauren siegel: Sorry to put your your name. 437 00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:55.430 lauren siegel: Can you run? Can you run the clock on that? 438 00:51:55.580 --> 00:52:04.770 frank murphy: 30 s, and then they will be questions sort of they. They'll go to Wells and then and then he's got as long as he needs to answer. 439 00:52:04.850 --> 00:52:07.600 lauren siegel: Okay, i'll start it when when they start. 440 00:52:07.710 --> 00:52:08.820 frank murphy: All right. 441 00:52:09.570 --> 00:52:12.310 frank murphy: Sandy, You you you on mute. 442 00:52:12.560 --> 00:52:14.710 sandybleifer: Can you hear me? 443 00:52:14.770 --> 00:52:26.480 sandybleifer: Okay, I just wanted to ask. Well, if they they've announced the 5 developers or contacted them. 444 00:52:27.350 --> 00:52:53.420 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Yeah, I anticipated that we have contacted the developers we did in December 2020, but we're as you might recall, we're still in a blackout, so I can't tell you who they are, which I wish I could do. We're not able to publicly release the names at this point, because we Haven't finished the solicitation. So that's the reason to get this Rp. Out. So we can all exit that blackout period and and 445 00:52:53.620 --> 00:52:58.390 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: and start the process and 446 00:52:58.420 --> 00:53:03.740 sandybleifer: move forward with that, and that when the developers will be announced. 447 00:53:04.210 --> 00:53:13.760 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: the developers will be announced in the summer, probably earlier. Probably. I'm just trying to think, probably as early as May or April. 448 00:53:15.520 --> 00:53:24.040 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: That's the the short list. Yeah, no, that's the You'll see the shortlisted developer and you'll see the selected developer at that time. 449 00:53:24.100 --> 00:53:27.010 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Actually, I shouldn't have spoken, said May. I don't private you? 450 00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:33.220 sandybleifer: It's June when what i'm trying to determine is when the 451 00:53:33.350 --> 00:53:36.820 sandybleifer: 5 shortlisted developer would be 452 00:53:37.340 --> 00:53:39.050 sandybleifer: identified. 453 00:53:39.640 --> 00:53:58.140 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I'm gonna say, let me, if I can get back to the committee on this, because I believe in the past, we so normally I wouldn't be able to tell you who the shortlist is. That's the problem. But we have in the past been able to do it, and i'm trying to remember what the circumstance was, and why we're able to do it. So let me check with our 454 00:53:58.290 --> 00:54:08.270 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: County Council and ask if we can release the names publicly, and I'm. I'm hopeful that we can, and then what I can do is 455 00:54:08.740 --> 00:54:13.430 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: we'll post it, but we can send it off to the Vnc. And I can reach out to you, Sandy. 456 00:54:13.470 --> 00:54:14.770 lauren siegel: Okay, Time's up. 457 00:54:14.860 --> 00:54:17.140 frank murphy: Thanks, Andy 458 00:54:17.770 --> 00:54:28.450 frank murphy: again. If we could keep it short in the 30 s. Ask your question and then and then. But Don't speak over well, so that he can 459 00:54:28.500 --> 00:54:34.550 frank murphy: complete his answer. But after that, and so we're down to Daryl Duffy. 460 00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:39.300 frank murphy: Joe, you want to on mute. 461 00:54:39.550 --> 00:54:41.350 Darryl DuFay: I've been. I've unmuted 462 00:54:41.530 --> 00:54:47.040 frank murphy: First of all, Wells, the list of the developers has been 463 00:54:47.450 --> 00:54:53.790 Darryl DuFay: released by West Side with side current, all the whole lust. 464 00:54:54.590 --> 00:54:57.580 frank murphy: It was last week. It's already out there 465 00:54:58.300 --> 00:55:04.240 Darryl DuFay: just to for me. Of that 466 00:55:04.310 --> 00:55:10.930 Darryl DuFay: I attended every one of those meetings for 3 years. and there always was the feeling 467 00:55:10.990 --> 00:55:19.890 Darryl DuFay: that it was all it was already taken care of. We had blocks to move around. We did this, that and the other thing, and you started to say you. 468 00:55:20.270 --> 00:55:24.300 Darryl DuFay: You started to say we're going to start over. But that's not what i'm hearing. 469 00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:28.430 lauren siegel: Okay, you're going to take. 470 00:55:29.010 --> 00:55:30.180 frank murphy: Thanks. Daryl. 471 00:55:30.550 --> 00:55:32.040 Darryl DuFay: Okay. 472 00:55:32.130 --> 00:55:35.350 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I think I got the 473 00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:37.210 frank murphy: Thanks, Cheryl. 474 00:55:38.310 --> 00:55:49.860 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: We're we're not going to start over. That's an important point. So i'm actually glad girl brought that up. But yeah, let me be clear. Those development. Guidelines as they stand, we believe. 475 00:55:50.150 --> 00:56:05.130 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: are doing what they need to do. They They capture the community's comments and the developers that are selected. We'll reopen it, and then there's a whole another. When I see reopen it. When we select a developer, the developer will be back in the community to get 476 00:56:05.160 --> 00:56:06.710 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: to to 477 00:56:06.720 --> 00:56:14.740 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: fine-tune to to hone in on what the real vision is. But the we have no intention of starting the process. Over 478 00:56:17.640 --> 00:56:18.570 frank murphy: Okay. 479 00:56:20.230 --> 00:56:21.750 frank murphy: Helen Fallon. 480 00:56:25.200 --> 00:56:29.400 Helen Fallon: Yeah. I have 2 part question partly based on what Wells just said. 481 00:56:29.630 --> 00:56:40.320 Helen Fallon: So you're only selecting these people. These developers based on your criteria of financial Stability Coastal commission experience 482 00:56:40.550 --> 00:56:44.220 Helen Fallon: at that point we're not going to be seeing what their proposal looks like. 483 00:56:45.130 --> 00:56:50.210 Helen Fallon: Won't know what they're planning on building there. Is that correct? Do I understand that correctly. 484 00:56:51.520 --> 00:57:02.980 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Yeah. The the what they were required to submit did not include a proposal for a project. It was only the qualifications as developers. So that's all. We looked at the second phase. What? We. 485 00:57:03.030 --> 00:57:06.990 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: the Rfp. That we're putting out here hopefully next week. 486 00:57:07.470 --> 00:57:09.960 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: That's when we ask for a project proposal. 487 00:57:10.560 --> 00:57:14.490 Helen Fallon: So when will the public have input into the project? 488 00:57:15.540 --> 00:57:18.410 frank murphy: How long we keep? Go ahead? 489 00:57:18.730 --> 00:57:20.160 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Well, sorry 490 00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:28.760 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: this this You' what ends up happening is that is why we spend so much time on the development guidelines up front. Because 491 00:57:28.780 --> 00:57:35.900 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: you cannot do a public procurement in without going into Blackout. This is I'm. Using a shorthand phrase, but it's 492 00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:37.370 essentially 493 00:57:37.580 --> 00:57:41.820 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: the people who are making the selection of the developer can't be influenced 494 00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:48.830 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: unduly by various processes, and so we go into what's called blackout is required 495 00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:52.580 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: of all public agencies. But 496 00:57:52.620 --> 00:58:03.810 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: that's partly why we spend so much time on the development guidelines, so that whoever is selected has to line up with the criteria and the requirements that were put forward by the community through that process. 497 00:58:04.260 --> 00:58:14.550 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Then, when we select a developer just to remind you. It's selecting a developer. There's still a project to really work out with the community, so it's 498 00:58:14.600 --> 00:58:28.440 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: It's that's when we go into what we call exclusive negotiations agreement. So that means we're as we used to say, we we're going steady right? And so we've we're not married. We haven't committed ourselves to a project. Nobody's voted on anything. The Board hasn't even seen it. 499 00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:37.010 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: We're just agreeing that we're going to come out of that blackout phase and start talking to the community again, so that we can have a dialogue without that concern around 500 00:58:37.040 --> 00:58:40.120 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: of the legality of a competitive process. 501 00:58:40.620 --> 00:58:41.390 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Hmm. 502 00:58:41.430 --> 00:58:43.880 Helen Fallon: Thank you. That man is very clear with me. Thank you. 503 00:58:45.020 --> 00:58:49.590 frank murphy: Thanks, Helen. Do you agree on a follow up for the future 504 00:58:49.740 --> 00:58:52.860 PatRaphael: questions because it seems like the 2 previous people 505 00:58:52.880 --> 00:59:00.360 PatRaphael: we're gonna we're holding it the way the way I said. We get 30 s. 506 00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:06.540 frank murphy: and then we'll go to the committee, and we'll have a 1 min on a questions from committee. 507 00:59:07.140 --> 00:59:11.830 frank murphy: Any up, Lisa or no, Steve Bradbury. 508 00:59:12.550 --> 00:59:13.510 frank murphy: Sorry 509 00:59:16.100 --> 00:59:27.490 Steve Bradbury: I thank you, Frank. Wells quick question for you and you put into the Rfp construction mitigation impact impact issues around the neighborhood. 510 00:59:27.660 --> 00:59:45.440 Steve Bradbury: Down on the Marina. We had a lot of issues with the city and the city just passed it all off to the developer. The developer said, Well, it wasn't in the agreement, so we didn't have to do it. So we had to fight to get anything, you know sound baffling and hours of working and parking and all that. If you put that into the Rfp. 511 00:59:45.460 --> 00:59:54.920 Steve Bradbury: Or at with community, input. then that gets built into the Rfp. And the developers responsible as part of their contract. Thank you. 512 00:59:55.120 --> 00:59:56.260 frank murphy: Thanks, Steve. 513 01:00:00.090 --> 01:00:16.340 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I can respond and say yes, that couldn't make it. I actually think it's more important for us to put that in the documents to follow the Rfp. What you wanted. It is in the actual legal agreements. So before what we would do is include that requirement. 514 01:00:16.350 --> 01:00:31.360 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: and I I appreciate you bringing it to my attention. Because, frankly, I don't know if we would necessarily have done that if you hadn't spoken up so we would include that requirement in the ground. Lease is where I would put it, so that the developer is actually held accountable 515 01:00:31.490 --> 01:00:37.050 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: to that requirement through construction, and we would just make that universal to anybody that selected. 516 01:00:41.320 --> 01:00:44.250 frank murphy: All right, Lisa Redmond. 517 01:00:47.600 --> 01:00:56.130 Lisa Redmond: Yeah, hi, good evening. Thank you. I do believe Metro does of all the city and county agencies does the best in outreach. So thank you 518 01:00:57.480 --> 01:01:11.040 Lisa Redmond: 2 things. One. The first is a question is, if it is such a blackout, why did one of your fellow panelists was able to obtain that information in that list and write a very biased story that everyone's referring to 519 01:01:11.150 --> 01:01:27.270 Lisa Redmond: tonight. And then, secondly, I want to add a comment that I think it's very important that when you are selecting the developer that you choose somebody that it's all affordable housing or workforce housing 2,030, 40 am I right 520 01:01:27.270 --> 01:01:37.410 Lisa Redmond: mit ctl, and we don't do market rate. Venice has plenty and plenty of market rate. We don't have. We don't have the housing for teachers and our workers, and our baristas, and 150. 521 01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:45.290 Lisa Redmond: You know the basic workforce housing, and I think that that's critical in West La. So, please, I hope you consider that. Thank you. 522 01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:47.010 frank murphy: Thanks, Lisa. 523 01:01:51.800 --> 01:02:10.420 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Hey, i'm happy to respond any time you there to your first point. I don't know, and I I do want to try to get to the bottom of that that's not supposed to happen. So i'm a little alarmed, and we'll track that down. And also if somebody could send me the link to the article that would be interesting. 524 01:02:10.420 --> 01:02:18.450 But on the second point, yeah, that your Elisa, you're echoing over for a refrain. I think we heard pretty clearly 525 01:02:18.530 --> 01:02:29.240 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: through the process that we really need to address kind of a broad spectrum of of housing needs for affordable housing. So I appreciate hearing that again. 526 01:02:29.680 --> 01:02:31.070 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: You know the exact 527 01:02:31.090 --> 01:02:39.070 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: target incomes, etc. Will be figured out once we have a developer in place. That's when those issues will get hammered out. 528 01:02:43.080 --> 01:02:46.600 frank murphy: Thanks. Nico. 529 01:02:51.850 --> 01:02:52.860 frank murphy: Nico. 530 01:02:53.600 --> 01:02:55.890 Nico Ruderman: Yeah. Sorry 531 01:02:55.970 --> 01:03:08.500 Nico Ruderman: I was. I have a quick question. I I was I I I apologize. I was a little distracted during part of your presentation. But can you explain to me the what you're saying about parking. Did I hear you correctly? There's me no parking. 532 01:03:09.010 --> 01:03:17.110 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I did not say that. I think I said the opposite. What when we worked with the Coastal Commission. 533 01:03:17.340 --> 01:03:20.500 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: that yeah, as you all know, the like, the priority or the 534 01:03:20.540 --> 01:03:30.700 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: their mandate is to increase public access to the shoreline. Therefore they, since they have authority over it, they asked for public parking to be integrated. And part of the project. 535 01:03:30.940 --> 01:03:35.540 Nico Ruderman: Yeah, okay, I figured I heard it. So I apologize. Thank you. 536 01:03:37.210 --> 01:03:39.000 frank murphy: Gabriel Smith. 537 01:03:44.120 --> 01:04:02.280 Gabriel Smith: Hi, there! Thank you. And, by the way, it's Gabriel Smith, My apologies. No problem, Frank. Hi, I'm Gabriel Smith L. Upc. Candidate. Just a few quick questions for Wells, and i'm not sure if we even have an answer to it yet. But I was wondering if we knew how many units this project was planning to incorporate 538 01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:07.650 Gabriel Smith: what the sizes of the units are, exactly how many people we're looking to house. 539 01:04:07.730 --> 01:04:17.570 Gabriel Smith: and what the what the budget for this project is. Also, if we know what the estimated ongoing maintenance costs and services provided would be. 540 01:04:17.730 --> 01:04:18.560 Gabriel Smith: That's all. 541 01:04:20.660 --> 01:04:21.770 frank murphy: Thanks you. 542 01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:35.610 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I'll just quickly just to say you a little bit like I will love to answer those questions. I cannot know them until we get the developer. They'll probably be a few years until we really clear on on answering a number of those questions. But they're all good ones. 543 01:04:39.250 --> 01:04:45.270 frank murphy: all right. Well, that is there anybody else in the public that would like to 544 01:04:45.810 --> 01:04:47.220 frank murphy: ask a question. 545 01:04:48.900 --> 01:04:54.360 frank murphy: It looks like that's got it for the public. Let's go to the panelists. 546 01:04:54.840 --> 01:05:00.660 frank murphy: So again a a minute to ask a question, and and 547 01:05:02.970 --> 01:05:05.130 frank murphy: whomever would like to 548 01:05:06.680 --> 01:05:11.880 frank murphy: come in. Raise your hand and let's Corinne. 549 01:05:12.240 --> 01:05:22.590 corinne Baginski: Hi! My name is Corinne, so i'd like to find out if you guys will provide some sort of studies for the the circulation flow around that 550 01:05:22.870 --> 01:05:30.680 corinne Baginski: address. especially with we're Talking Pacific Avenue, which is pretty narrow and Main Street. 551 01:05:31.420 --> 01:05:32.930 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Yeah. 552 01:05:33.850 --> 01:05:41.380 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: it's a good idea I'm trying to think of. I think the answer is, Yes, here's how it would happen again. We'll select a developer 553 01:05:41.390 --> 01:05:55.520 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: developer will come back into the community. We would flag that as an issue, and we would require that they do that study. So yeah, I think that's a good idea. I know. I'm. I I recall the traffic issues around there and the safety issues. 554 01:05:55.640 --> 01:05:56.510 corinne Baginski: Thank you. 555 01:06:00.420 --> 01:06:01.390 frank murphy: Barry. 556 01:06:02.240 --> 01:06:07.470 barrycassilly: Yeah, Frank, I have more than one question, so maybe I could do them one at a time. You go to other people in between. 557 01:06:07.880 --> 01:06:11.230 frank murphy: Go ahead and put them all out at once. 558 01:06:11.530 --> 01:06:15.070 barrycassilly: We'll see where we go after that. 559 01:06:15.220 --> 01:06:28.160 barrycassilly: Okay? Well, okay, here are my questions. The first question is, why was, Why did it take so long? If the If you all knew your your short list of developers in 2,020, it's 3 years later. 560 01:06:28.240 --> 01:06:42.880 barrycassilly: Why, why was everything blacked out for that long of a period of time. My next question is, why is the period between announcing your short list and announcing a developer choice so short? 561 01:06:42.910 --> 01:06:46.200 barrycassilly: I think we're talking about 2 months 562 01:06:46.240 --> 01:06:54.570 barrycassilly: in between announcing the shortlist and announcing the developer choice. The third question was about. 563 01:06:55.010 --> 01:07:08.290 barrycassilly: There's some. There was a change in the documents. With respect to your low income targets. Initially, in the earlier documents related to the Rfp, there was a 564 01:07:08.290 --> 01:07:26.310 barrycassilly: 35% target for low income subsidized housing that was changed later to a a a target of 100. So I mean, that happened during the blackout period. I believe. So I was wondering what led to that change. 565 01:07:26.500 --> 01:07:30.070 barrycassilly: And so this is all my question for. 566 01:07:31.550 --> 01:07:34.070 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Okay. So, Frank, shall I answer on 567 01:07:34.380 --> 01:07:41.760 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: all you're on Here we go, all right. So why did it take a long question? Number One Perfectly fair question 568 01:07:42.180 --> 01:07:52.890 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: the issue we had done the shortlist that we've stopped all during development activity in 20. We we just stopped across the board. We weren't sure what we were doing was legal. 569 01:07:53.100 --> 01:08:10.970 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: We couldn't figure it out, and it took a very long time, and you can talk to other public agencies throughout the State. We all kind of ran into the same problem. It it, what it seemed to imply, was that any further procurement or disposition of property was not legal. Given the new State law. 570 01:08:10.970 --> 01:08:20.290 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: we have since figured out how to work within the law. The State has issued guidelines, and has issued several amendments to the law that allow us to move forward. 571 01:08:20.649 --> 01:08:22.300 So 572 01:08:22.310 --> 01:08:24.340 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: that's why to kind of your 573 01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:30.350 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: well, i'll get to your to your fourth question in a second. So then, I think the question was that period. 574 01:08:31.200 --> 01:08:39.620 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Why is Why is the period so short between? Yes, exactly. I I think on that one I just misspoke. So let me be 575 01:08:39.630 --> 01:08:43.359 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: more clear and better, not so confusing on that one. 576 01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:54.990 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: The blackout period exists from the time you issue that first R. Of Q. Until you bring a recommended recommended developer to the board to the Metro Board of Directors. 577 01:08:55.080 --> 01:09:07.080 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: So, in fact, it's. The short list will not be known by the public, except for when it just hurts. The shortlist is known by the public, but it's not supposed to be known in general by the public 578 01:09:07.080 --> 01:09:17.319 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: until the Board meeting is noticed. That's when the shortlist becomes notified. And yes, you're right. It's like at the same time the very same in the same notice. It'll say 579 01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:29.120 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: these were the shortlisted developers, and here's the recommended developer. So that goes before the board. If you have concerns at that point. That's when you show up at the Metric Board meeting and say. 580 01:09:29.210 --> 01:09:36.649 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: wait a minute, I don't. I don't I. You should show it, you should choose a different developer. That's and that's why 581 01:09:36.770 --> 01:09:47.310 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: you're out of blackout at that point. You're You're able to have the public conversation that I think everybody wants to have at that point. Otherwise, the his history in California is that 582 01:09:47.870 --> 01:10:06.430 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: decision. Makers at staff level, like my level, basically make bad decisions because people get to them and say, I want this developer. You gotta do that. So that's why it's a bit of a concern that the names are out there, because in theory folks could be out influencing the selection panel and changing the outcome that it would otherwise not be in the best public interest. 583 01:10:06.690 --> 01:10:13.100 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: So that's that's why that's frustratingly short. It's not even short as coincides. 584 01:10:15.060 --> 01:10:28.310 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: And then, just on the the 35 versus 100 that isn't about the R. Of P. That's actually about the joint development policy, and i'll put. I can do this now. I'll put a link both to the development guidelines 585 01:10:28.540 --> 01:10:31.860 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: and the new policy in the chat. 586 01:10:32.090 --> 01:10:49.100 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: The procurement from my perspective. the the new policy states that we will pursue projects is 100% affordable except for large sites. This is a large site. So this could be if, if, if if that's where we end up, it could be a mixed income site. 587 01:10:49.190 --> 01:10:53.140 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: and in that case at least 25% would have to be affordable. 588 01:10:54.990 --> 01:10:58.420 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: The previous policy was 589 01:10:59.350 --> 01:11:11.650 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: duly noticed and and modified by the Board in the interest of addressing the public housing crisis, and I can kind of point you to the process that got us there on that piece. But the Rfp. It's the R. Of Q itself. 590 01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:13.920 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Didn't: change in the Rfp. 591 01:11:14.050 --> 01:11:16.790 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Will reflect the new policy. 592 01:11:17.220 --> 01:11:22.410 barrycassilly: Okay, if I may have a of a one, a couple of quick! Follow ups one was. 593 01:11:22.550 --> 01:11:31.230 frank murphy: Hey, hang on! Let's let somebody else go first, and then we'll come back and catch you if there's a opportunity. 594 01:11:32.830 --> 01:11:33.730 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yes. 595 01:11:33.850 --> 01:11:46.260 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I feel like the question Ask is somewhat in line with what I would like to ask again. If I understand this, I like to know if there is a guideline that's given. 596 01:11:46.450 --> 01:11:48.500 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: selected that 597 01:11:48.980 --> 01:12:00.760 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: helps selecting the developers to do it. Because I feel like this is also a it could be a great public space area as well as well as 598 01:12:01.060 --> 01:12:11.150 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: housing, and so on. So if there is a if there is a guideline that they follow up, and there is a design that they project for, you know, and present to the 599 01:12:11.200 --> 01:12:12.420 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: community. 600 01:12:12.580 --> 01:12:15.400 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: so as far as selecting the 601 01:12:16.570 --> 01:12:24.890 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: developer is concerned. I'm wondering how you how you select them basically today. Do they all have certain 602 01:12:25.070 --> 01:12:32.500 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: proposals that design proposals that in this is their situation or not? 603 01:12:32.570 --> 01:12:35.980 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Yeah, you use all the right words, because 604 01:12:36.030 --> 01:12:52.230 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: and I was piddling around because I was looking for the chat. There. May not I don't use zoom a lot, so maybe there isn't a chat in this version, but the development guidelines are on our website, and they do exactly what you said, which is they? They make clear 605 01:12:52.430 --> 01:13:11.550 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: what the requirements are. What a developer has. You know what we want to the how we'll select a developer, but they'll need to offer in a project proposal. So if it says, remember how I said one of the things was breaking up the block into 2 2 blocks. So there's a walk street in the center. If a developer submitted without a walk street. They're out 606 01:13:11.550 --> 01:13:21.330 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: like we probably would not select them because they're not following the guidelines, and those guidelines are pretty detailed there. It's a pretty long document and pretty 607 01:13:22.840 --> 01:13:39.320 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: specific. So if I if I can get them to you somehow, I will. Well, they're attached to our oh, good! So they're already out there, and everybody's had access to them. Okay, good, All right. So look at that document, I think hopefully, that answers your question. 608 01:13:39.910 --> 01:13:40.530 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Okay. 609 01:13:40.780 --> 01:13:44.630 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yes, I I looked at it as well. Yes. 610 01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:47.200 frank murphy: sure. Jodi Jodi. 611 01:13:50.010 --> 01:13:52.010 frank murphy: hey? You know I got you. 612 01:13:53.120 --> 01:14:02.240 Jody Mortimer: Thank you for your Thank you very much. The the first one is. i'm really new to all the the acronyms. So could you explain what our F. 613 01:14:02.700 --> 01:14:18.700 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Yes, good question, and and apologies for doing that? So there's 2 things that governments use to solicit proposals, and in this case developer proposals. 614 01:14:19.140 --> 01:14:25.460 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: either a request for qualifications or requests sometimes called request for interest and qualifications 615 01:14:25.490 --> 01:14:36.900 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: generally that of document. Just all they're asking for is tell us why you're qualified to do the work, not what you're gonna do like. So no proposal to say it's just a statement of qualifications. 616 01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:50.430 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: The second one, I said, was Rfp. Which is request for proposals, and that's more specific, and that's a request for a proposal, and in this case a proposal on the site 617 01:14:50.660 --> 01:14:51.560 Jody Mortimer: sounds good. 618 01:14:52.160 --> 01:14:55.090 Thank you. Number the second question is. 619 01:14:55.310 --> 01:14:59.120 Jody Mortimer: why it's just really quick, right? Because Why. 620 01:14:59.270 --> 01:15:11.180 Jody Mortimer: it's only 25% of the of the new building going to go to homeless and so on the homeless can be so I mean not Thomas. So low income, at least 50% of it go. I mean it was a 621 01:15:11.670 --> 01:15:12.250 thanks. 622 01:15:14.940 --> 01:15:18.680 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Should I answer. 623 01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:23.990 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: So the policy and the State guidelines say 25% is a minimum. 624 01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:34.030 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I think we're very open, and I think encouraging all the way to 100%. So we're not setting that as a Max at all. We're we're just saying that 625 01:15:34.290 --> 01:15:41.620 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: to comply with the law you'll have to do at least 25 and we encourage and want a developer that can do more 626 01:15:42.250 --> 01:15:46.430 Jody Mortimer: real quick. I'll walk. 627 01:15:46.530 --> 01:15:47.650 barrycassilly: Frank 628 01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:48.660 frank murphy: Jody 629 01:15:50.500 --> 01:15:51.570 frank murphy: Lauren. 630 01:15:52.510 --> 01:15:54.310 lauren siegel: so I I guess i'm gonna 631 01:15:54.560 --> 01:16:10.760 lauren siegel: build on Jodi's question. So who determines what that mixture is going to be. We we've talked about the 25 up to 100. Is that something that you're gonna allow the developer to decide for you or you gonna choose a developer based on the direction that they're offering. 632 01:16:11.210 --> 01:16:21.990 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I believe that we're scoring based on the deepest level of affordability. So developers that offer more affordable units and deeper levels of affordability will will score higher. 633 01:16:22.130 --> 01:16:32.830 lauren siegel: And how do you wait? All the various measures that you're evaluating all of these developers by is that the most important thing, or there others that are more important. 634 01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:38.310 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: There are others that are equally important. 635 01:16:38.440 --> 01:16:54.610 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: So you know, and I actually am. I. Unfortunately Don't have any of the scoring matrix or criteria in front of me. But my recollection is it's each of them. It gets something like 5 points, and this is one of them. So I think there are. 636 01:16:55.280 --> 01:17:10.310 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I I don't remember the waiting, but it's very important. It's it's honestly the top of the list. So it's probably the most important. I'm just trying to think of what else I think we we have a statement in there that's asked for a vision, so you can have. 637 01:17:10.370 --> 01:17:11.490 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: You know 638 01:17:11.630 --> 01:17:20.440 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: you can have great affordability, but build something the community doesn't want that's no good, and so if they're not, you know to my earlier point. If they're not in the alignment with the guidelines. 639 01:17:20.480 --> 01:17:21.830 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: they propose 640 01:17:21.920 --> 01:17:33.660 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: some mega block that's 20 stories tall, and you know, offensive to the community. In some way it doesn't align with what the community said they wanted in that process. Then they're going to get scored down. 641 01:17:33.740 --> 01:17:38.190 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: But yes, they'll have a high score on the affordability, but they'll They'll get scored down on the vision. 642 01:17:38.310 --> 01:17:56.010 lauren siegel: It's how but but it sounds like you're waiting this internally. How are you gonna wait the opinion of the community in your various proportions of scoring? How much do we have? Say it's we decide to go with, and what your vision is great point. 643 01:17:56.440 --> 01:18:06.630 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Yeah, it's a it is a great point. Our new policy suggests that we put that that waiting out to the community so they can opine 644 01:18:06.780 --> 01:18:07.400 It's 645 01:18:07.480 --> 01:18:23.680 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: my challenge here, and i'm trying to think of a workaround is that this is straddling 2 policies. The first policy didn't do that. We heard from other communities exactly what you're saying like. How do we? How do we know how you're making the decision, you know, like at some point, yeah, we have the guidelines and the guidelines do sort of 646 01:18:24.210 --> 01:18:27.970 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: try to align with that decision making. But we want to actually see the tally sheet. 647 01:18:28.050 --> 01:18:38.070 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: and that is something where we want to meet the tally sheet. What's that? They don't want to just see the tally sheet. We want to influence the tally sheet. 648 01:18:38.380 --> 01:18:40.990 frank murphy: Okay. 649 01:18:41.570 --> 01:18:42.640 frank murphy: Stan. 650 01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:52.830 Ansar Muhammad: Yeah. Thank you, Frank. Thank you, Mr. Wales, for joining us in my I wanted to ask you. Cbas 651 01:18:53.330 --> 01:18:58.600 Ansar Muhammad: to me. Benefit agreement. Do you all have one in place for this project. 652 01:18:59.050 --> 01:19:09.590 Ansar Muhammad: And if so, was there any local community input to draft up that? Cb. 8? That's one question. The other question is local hiring policies. 653 01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:12.380 Ansar Muhammad: You all have 654 01:19:12.670 --> 01:19:14.330 Ansar Muhammad: policies that 655 01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:21.290 Ansar Muhammad: make sure that there's local hire for projects. So those are the cool questions that comes to mind. Yeah. 656 01:19:21.960 --> 01:19:34.400 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: So there's no project as of yet, because we haven't received proposals. That's one thing just to bear in mind. If there is a community benefits negotiated, you would negotiate it with a developer. 657 01:19:34.440 --> 01:19:47.170 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: and we haven't had one. Have we haven't overseen a community benefits agreement yet, because we act sort of as the enforcer. So if the community says, I want 658 01:19:48.690 --> 01:19:52.710 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: i'm trying to think of a benefit that we've given. 659 01:19:53.250 --> 01:20:02.040 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I want 20 dedicated. This is a terrible example. But 20 dedicated parking spots for my businesses for for area businesses. 660 01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:21.540 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: They'll express that through the community outreach process to us, and we will report that out basically as as our process, and integrated into the development, deal and enforce it through the ground lease that I was referencing earlier. It's almost better, in my opinion, than a community benefits agreement because it's enforceable and attached to the land. 661 01:20:21.580 --> 01:20:26.910 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: And you have a big agency like Metro enforcing it. That, said I wouldn't. 662 01:20:26.980 --> 01:20:41.770 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: You know, I think community benefits agreements. I have some experience with them, I think, are really interesting, and if it seem to be the right fit for Venice, and whatever developer ends up getting selected, that would be an interesting thing to negotiate. And within that document is where I think you would pursue the local higher requirement. 663 01:20:41.770 --> 01:20:56.520 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Metro has a a project, labor agreement, requirement, and a cons and a policy related to construction careers. but it's not a local hire, and so that to me would be where you would pursue that because we don't have those policies in place. 664 01:20:57.190 --> 01:20:59.850 Ansar Muhammad: How do we ensure that this body 665 01:21:00.480 --> 01:21:03.480 Ansar Muhammad: of folks here and others in our community. 666 01:21:03.630 --> 01:21:06.790 Ansar Muhammad: It's made aware of one that 667 01:21:06.870 --> 01:21:08.960 Ansar Muhammad: conversation begin to take place. 668 01:21:09.140 --> 01:21:13.980 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: You have to take my word that we will require the developer 669 01:21:14.100 --> 01:21:22.540 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: to submit. The first thing they have to do when we select them is they have to prepare a community outreach plan, and they have to tell us what steps they're going to take 670 01:21:22.630 --> 01:21:29.140 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: to keep the community informed at every step of the way in the process. Metro receives that and approves it. 671 01:21:29.370 --> 01:21:48.070 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: It's something you could. V and C. Could ask that. We report out on right away minute, the developer selected. You have us come back and say, or well, not the minute. But as soon as that community benefit or community outreach plan is prepared, have us and the developer come back and 672 01:21:48.070 --> 01:21:49.430 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: tell you what's in it. 673 01:21:49.530 --> 01:21:58.110 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: And again, we're we're looking after you. So Metro's interest is supporting the concerns that you have. So if you say. 674 01:21:58.110 --> 01:22:11.410 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I think that plan that community outreach plan totally misses youth. Why didn't you? Why, Aren't, you reaching out to any youth? You say that we hear it, and we modify it until we all get to something we like, and then from there 675 01:22:11.410 --> 01:22:21.740 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: there should be a plan in place that's guiding the project and making sure that the developers keeping everybody informed as we go, and we we do hold them accountable to that. Thank you. Yeah. 676 01:22:21.970 --> 01:22:24.870 frank murphy: thanks. Well, Pat. 677 01:22:26.160 --> 01:22:33.010 PatRaphael: Yeah. So thank you again for coming out, and this is quite informative. 678 01:22:33.330 --> 01:22:36.840 PatRaphael: It seems like the the mayor's 679 01:22:37.500 --> 01:22:41.680 PatRaphael: moment of frenzy. Time to get things done. 680 01:22:41.710 --> 01:22:48.090 PatRaphael: Part of the administration is promising that there's gonna be a lot of cut through. 681 01:22:48.310 --> 01:22:49.990 PatRaphael: But when we 682 01:22:50.040 --> 01:22:53.180 PatRaphael: compare that sense of urgency 683 01:22:53.190 --> 01:23:00.610 PatRaphael: with how this process seems to be snailing along. Is there going to be any interfaces there going to be 684 01:23:00.740 --> 01:23:04.560 PatRaphael: any push from the Mayor's new 685 01:23:06.490 --> 01:23:10.730 PatRaphael: desire to make these projects come online quicker. 686 01:23:10.780 --> 01:23:14.870 PatRaphael: Is that gonna come in? And then also, Stan was asking about 687 01:23:15.030 --> 01:23:26.480 PatRaphael: local access to the creation of of of what we're gonna get. We're also thinking about local access to the outcome. So once something is built. 688 01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:37.260 PatRaphael: Is there something in the works that's gonna Maybe you have some sort of a understanding or guarantee that a chunk of this is going to be geared towards 689 01:23:38.670 --> 01:23:44.480 PatRaphael: maybe low income, or people in the community that that they have housing needs. 690 01:23:44.530 --> 01:23:46.520 PatRaphael: And then, finally. 691 01:23:46.700 --> 01:23:48.800 PatRaphael: I was thinking about the 692 01:23:50.510 --> 01:23:51.540 PatRaphael: the 693 01:23:51.970 --> 01:24:04.230 PatRaphael: the excess properties that you're that you're talking about, even though this is just for Division 6. Is there other excess property in the area that can also come under 694 01:24:04.260 --> 01:24:08.060 PatRaphael: this new initiative that we're going to use as much metro 695 01:24:08.100 --> 01:24:11.420 PatRaphael: properties as possible to get to get things built. 696 01:24:13.390 --> 01:24:15.890 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Oh, very good question. So 697 01:24:16.190 --> 01:24:30.140 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: on our sense of urgency. I know it doesn't look like it, but we are. We're now having cleared a lot of those legal hardware hurdles, we're now picking up the pace like. You cannot believe. 698 01:24:30.230 --> 01:24:48.520 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I think the Mayor Mayor's Executive Directive Number One will be helpful potentially to this project. Insofar as it's, a 100% affordable a 100% affordable project will benefit from the streamlining measures the mayor has put in place. I also would note the mayors on our board, and we'll not too long, I think, next year be our board President. 699 01:24:48.520 --> 01:24:54.540 So it's very important member driving us, and, in fact, I I know already from early conversations. 700 01:24:54.660 --> 01:25:02.940 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: She's already asking the question You want her to ask. It's like Why, Aren't, you going faster? So we're definitely hearing that already 701 01:25:03.340 --> 01:25:07.780 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: local access came up in the 702 01:25:08.220 --> 01:25:22.410 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: guidelines process. There was a lot of interesting community space, but it wasn't just like, you know, Community room. It was kind of what you're describing, which is like some type of local ownership of that space, maybe lowercase ownership, but but some some 703 01:25:22.710 --> 01:25:27.270 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: something that's useful to the people who need who have needs in the community. 704 01:25:27.510 --> 01:25:42.200 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: One of the things that came up repeatedly was artists, and, you know, trying to figure out a balance between those community needs and artists and trying to figure out some amazing creative way to bring them together in the ground floor space that's available. So that's definitely. 705 01:25:42.210 --> 01:25:58.370 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: You know, when we're looking, when we get proposals. That's one that we're going to look at affordability. We're going to look at the design, but we're also going to look at the quality of of community space like how creative people are getting, and whether or not they are addressing the needs that are immediate in front of us right now. 706 01:25:58.690 --> 01:26:05.440 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: So. And again. once the developer selected. That's when the community can start having more dialogue on this stuff and get specific 707 01:26:06.730 --> 01:26:10.290 PatRaphael: all right. It seems like everybody has the guideline. Finally, can I get 708 01:26:10.340 --> 01:26:17.930 PatRaphael: another place to look at the guidelines again? Because I don't think that was clear as I would. 709 01:26:18.010 --> 01:26:23.040 frank murphy: There's an attachment that in the on on the site. 710 01:26:23.240 --> 01:26:26.150 frank murphy: Yeah. 711 01:26:26.790 --> 01:26:38.340 barrycassilly: it's pretty thorough. Wait, Frank. Can I say something to address what he the question you just asked, because part of what we're supposed to be doing tonight was loop back. 712 01:26:38.580 --> 01:26:42.130 barrycassilly: Mikhail was going to assign Staff 713 01:26:42.500 --> 01:26:49.780 barrycassilly: to do a staff report to go through all of these documents, because I think we think that 714 01:26:49.890 --> 01:27:00.760 barrycassilly: it's unrealistic to expect that everybody in the general public is going to read all of these documents there, a lot of them. But and the idea was that a staff report would be done 715 01:27:00.760 --> 01:27:11.580 barrycassilly: that would report back to the community, which could be a a sort of synopsis of the the different documents, so that it's it's more easily digestible. 716 01:27:11.990 --> 01:27:21.830 frank murphy: Yeah, thanks, thanks. Mary Elizabeth Wright joined us a few minutes ago. She's on the Homelessness Committee. 717 01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:23.090 frank murphy: Elizabeth. 718 01:27:27.670 --> 01:27:30.460 Elizabeth Wright: I will leave earlier. You said that 719 01:27:30.980 --> 01:27:35.980 Elizabeth Wright: the number of units that the developer is to build 720 01:27:37.020 --> 01:27:38.800 Elizabeth Wright: has not been defined. 721 01:27:40.430 --> 01:27:47.030 Elizabeth Wright: How do you have an Rfp. For someone to build something. If you don't know how many units 722 01:27:48.780 --> 01:27:50.410 Elizabeth Wright: it doesn't make sense to me. 723 01:27:50.710 --> 01:27:52.360 barrycassilly: No, it doesn't. 724 01:27:52.790 --> 01:28:05.680 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: So on all our our we do not specify the number of units the developers are required to come forward with the proposal, and that's part of the evaluation is, how many units are you putting on the site? Some communities? It's about density. 725 01:28:05.760 --> 01:28:08.810 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: you know. And so we we. 726 01:28:09.180 --> 01:28:25.130 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: We try to line up what the proposal looks like with what the community wanted. It's not so. We do not create a threshold number that said in this case, we're doing that because the new State law that I mentioned, and the the issues that are coming up. 727 01:28:25.340 --> 01:28:32.130 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: we are asking that it. The site will contain a minimum of 300 units. 728 01:28:32.340 --> 01:28:34.250 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: and that's the baseline 729 01:28:34.310 --> 01:28:39.510 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: in as required by State law, in order to to qualify for this mixed income approach. 730 01:28:39.570 --> 01:28:50.850 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: So that's a new one for us. We've never done it before. So, in fact, there is a baseline number of units for, but our worst 300 units, and we'll see what comes forward 731 01:28:50.940 --> 01:28:53.160 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: that meets that threshold. 732 01:28:53.960 --> 01:29:00.060 Elizabeth Wright: Okay apologies for not reading all of the material beforehand. 733 01:29:00.450 --> 01:29:06.640 Elizabeth Wright: Normally, solar is a given. But are you also considering things like wind and shade? 734 01:29:07.510 --> 01:29:12.170 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Yeah, I mean, again developer will decide. But there it we will. 735 01:29:12.580 --> 01:29:21.950 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: It's a lead gold compliant. It's also going to be subject to the green building ordinance, and then our we have an internal 736 01:29:22.040 --> 01:29:36.550 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: sustainability group that has been very focused on this property and wants to test out and things like that. So i'll sort of take that as feedback that we should be looking at when not just solar and and other resources. I I think that could be really interesting. 737 01:29:36.640 --> 01:29:37.440 Elizabeth Wright: Thank you. 738 01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:39.870 frank murphy: Okay, Brian. 739 01:29:41.590 --> 01:29:51.930 Brian U: Thank you, sir, for coming tonight. We appreciate your time. I just have a bad pit in my stomach, and and I think we've been down this line so many times with so many different projects. 740 01:29:51.990 --> 01:29:55.670 Brian U: and you know. trust isn't given it's earned. 741 01:29:56.250 --> 01:30:02.290 Brian U: and there's nobody that I've talked to, or whether on either side of the thing that thanks 742 01:30:02.420 --> 01:30:13.170 Brian U: that anything that's happening is really what's gonna happen. And you know, when when Stan mentioned community benefit agreement, we we fought to have that for the bridge housing project 743 01:30:13.180 --> 01:30:14.360 Brian U: never got it. 744 01:30:14.920 --> 01:30:20.720 Brian U: Didn't didn't happen. I really think it's important, for maybe Metro and 745 01:30:20.750 --> 01:30:30.330 Brian U: the Mayor and other people to really really give the consideration to Venice to be able to have a community oversight committee of some sort or the community benefits. 746 01:30:30.370 --> 01:30:36.110 Brian U: You know we had a councilman that didn't get along with everybody, but he was also on the metro board. 747 01:30:36.450 --> 01:30:39.180 Brian U: Now, Karen Bass is on the Metropolitan. 748 01:30:39.200 --> 01:30:56.760 Brian U: I mean, where the where the recruiting conflicts. On some of these things. Also I I'm really concerned, is like I was building the blocks in 2,016 at the at the Boys and Girls Club trying to figure out, and they're no mention that all of a sudden. Now it's 300 units of this. 749 01:30:57.110 --> 01:31:03.900 Brian U: you know. Where did that come from? You say you had 2,500 people doing all these things? How do we know who they were? 750 01:31:03.980 --> 01:31:17.300 Brian U: Are they really who they say they were. So I this the pit in my stomach is, I don't trust the system right now, and I think it's up to you guys to to help make us feel like we're trusted, and we're partners in this thing. 751 01:31:17.540 --> 01:31:19.850 Brian U: Thank you. So 752 01:31:19.970 --> 01:31:25.820 Brian U: it it's just I. I don't mean to say that to you because i'm sure you're a great guy, but it but it's painful because 753 01:31:25.820 --> 01:31:44.670 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I don't believe anything that you guys are saying. Yeah, and I and I I appreciate the way you put it. Which is it is up to? That's my job. I mean you like, I mean, I would work in the private sector, Otherwise, so my job is to to build that trust, and if I fail, that's that's me failing my job. So I hope we get there. 754 01:31:44.690 --> 01:31:54.540 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: and that unfortunately I feel the frustration. It's like this: Blackout is never helpful in a community when you're trying to build that trust, especially in the phase when you're trying to build that trust 755 01:31:54.560 --> 01:32:13.610 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: because we knows anything, you know, like we don't have a developer. Well, just a quick Follow up, for for example, like the community to be our council person. How much influence does it cancel person have in something like a project? Or could we look to be our spokesperson 756 01:32:13.670 --> 01:32:15.570 Brian U: for oversight for us as well. 757 01:32:16.950 --> 01:32:19.380 frank murphy: Thank thanks, fine. 758 01:32:20.810 --> 01:32:23.090 Brian U: I have some question on you. 759 01:32:23.310 --> 01:32:29.260 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I'm not I. I I will answer only to say we completely. 760 01:32:30.020 --> 01:32:44.940 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: We have to work with our elected offices period, and we have to work with local jurisdictions. In this case. I kind of think of the Council Office and the the district as the local jurisdiction. So yes, we will work with them and confer with them. My hope is that 761 01:32:44.990 --> 01:32:56.800 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: they're doing their job and listening and conveying. We're all kind of working together, but they're conveying the community's priorities to us. We do both honestly. We we. 762 01:32:56.810 --> 01:33:01.340 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: if we only relied on the Council Office. Then we wouldn't be necessarily doing our job either. 763 01:33:01.410 --> 01:33:14.100 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: We need to be out hearing things directly from the community and reporting out what we're hearing and doing our process, and also in a working closely with the Council Office, because they know the community, and they they know 764 01:33:14.200 --> 01:33:19.200 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: they're elected. They're representative. So we don't disregard that. 765 01:33:19.660 --> 01:33:20.470 Brian U: Thank you. 766 01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:23.040 Brian U: Come on, everyone. 767 01:33:24.390 --> 01:33:25.440 frank murphy: all right. 768 01:33:29.500 --> 01:33:31.370 frank murphy: So 769 01:33:31.430 --> 01:33:32.820 lauren siegel: we have one more question. 770 01:33:33.490 --> 01:33:34.790 frank murphy: Oh, excuse me. 771 01:33:34.880 --> 01:33:36.760 lauren siegel: we have one more person with a question. 772 01:33:37.150 --> 01:33:41.620 frank murphy: That's very. But and he's a call, so 773 01:33:41.820 --> 01:33:53.650 frank murphy: give him a hit right here at the end. But I did want to. I'll let you know that I. Well, said i'm really appreciative of you coming. 774 01:33:53.730 --> 01:34:01.980 frank murphy: and I guess in in light of what Brian was talking about, and others, and pat, etc., etc. 775 01:34:04.240 --> 01:34:16.540 frank murphy: Can we have this going on an ongoing basis, this sort of interaction? Because that seems to be one of the ways that we bridge that gap between that trust G. 776 01:34:16.750 --> 01:34:18.360 frank murphy: And 777 01:34:18.650 --> 01:34:23.020 frank murphy: yeah, that's that's where that's the trust of my question. 778 01:34:24.060 --> 01:34:26.990 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: The answer is, yes, absolutely. 779 01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:40.600 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: I would say through Vmc. And through other methods. We need to get back in the game, and we've been dormant for 3 years, or whatever. So we want to get back and kind of start rebuilding the relationship. So I think we were building 780 01:34:40.630 --> 01:34:49.270 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: in the community. So yes, we would love to come back even more. So I would love to come back once we're out of black out, I mean i'll come back before we in black out, but 781 01:34:49.340 --> 01:35:05.150 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: but it will be so much better once we just are through this procurement phase, and that's why I very much am hope we can proceed and just release this Rp: Get through this phase so that we can all start talking again very openly. It's a little hard for me because I have to. 782 01:35:05.150 --> 01:35:15.360 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: because I thought I had to be protecting the developers. Apparently they're already out there. I'll have to address that separately. But but you know I don't have everybody in the room yet. So 783 01:35:16.190 --> 01:35:18.660 frank murphy: all right, Barry, you got something. 784 01:35:20.630 --> 01:35:30.190 barrycassilly: Yeah, I just well. So I I do appreciate you being here a lot, because we haven't heard from the in years. But 785 01:35:32.160 --> 01:35:42.420 barrycassilly: i'm concerned about your scoring system, I mean, there's not a lot we're hearing about what's been happening in the last few years. But what what we're hearing now 786 01:35:42.450 --> 01:35:47.620 barrycassilly: seems fairly radically divergent 787 01:35:47.710 --> 01:35:51.840 barrycassilly: from what what was supposed to be a community driven process 788 01:35:51.970 --> 01:35:54.750 barrycassilly: before you went into Blackout. 789 01:35:54.970 --> 01:36:02.610 barrycassilly: I think that the consensus of the community was that we wanted a a a mixed project 790 01:36:02.670 --> 01:36:04.580 barrycassilly: that was 791 01:36:04.910 --> 01:36:09.520 barrycassilly: clearly thought to be a mixture of market rate and low income housing. 792 01:36:09.720 --> 01:36:19.660 barrycassilly: So the repeated mention of 100% affordable project. It is clearly at odds with the initial process. 793 01:36:19.700 --> 01:36:27.720 barrycassilly: and we have no idea how these priorities changed since the community was involved. 794 01:36:29.090 --> 01:36:31.840 barrycassilly: How do we have access to what happened in between. 795 01:36:34.700 --> 01:36:47.450 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: so not a lot has happened in between. But I am thinking about this. The scoring criteria they bring up. I think i'm going to look into it, because I think if we what i'm concerned about is. 796 01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:53.510 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: how do we launch a new process on the scoring criteria in the middle of this blackout 797 01:36:54.040 --> 01:37:04.790 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: there that the the way you reflected that. Yes, we came out of that with mixed income. Yes, that's what the Rfp. Says, Yes, the law changed. But even so. 798 01:37:04.830 --> 01:37:18.440 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: the law of change to say minimum, 25, and that's the line we're holding. But but the community had no problem with that. But the consensus in the community is for a mixed project, market and low income. 799 01:37:18.440 --> 01:37:28.620 barrycassilly: But now we hear about a scoring system where the developers are being scored on their low income ability. But there's no scoring for their market ability. 800 01:37:28.980 --> 01:37:33.910 frank murphy: but their ability to the market rate. Let them finish on that. Alright. 801 01:37:34.060 --> 01:37:36.840 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: No, I I appreciate kinda hearing the follow up. 802 01:37:38.560 --> 01:37:45.270 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: We did say in what we published in 2,019 in the Development guidelines. I believe it says. 803 01:37:45.420 --> 01:37:51.480 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: we encourage a mix of a kind of as you're saying, a mix of affordability. 804 01:37:54.160 --> 01:38:08.460 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Yes, we would score projects higher with a deeper level affordability that is consistent with the with the Board's new policy. I don't know how I would score market rate like, so would I give more points to projects that are more market rate. Or 805 01:38:08.620 --> 01:38:22.160 barrycassilly: or are you just suggesting that we, I I don't know how you would score it. It's just the scoring system was never mentioned in conversations with the community. Well, it never. So you know they 806 01:38:22.370 --> 01:38:30.100 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: For 10 years we've been using the same process. I don't say it's not flawed, but it is the same process where the 807 01:38:30.170 --> 01:38:33.960 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: this, when we move faster, it doesn't feel as painful 808 01:38:33.980 --> 01:38:53.610 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: the project we do the development guidelines. We. We press the issue, and I believe that I did at the in 2,019 to say, this is your chance, because we have to now do a procurement. Then we go into blackout, and we're not able to discuss and have the open transparency that we we prefer to have 809 01:38:53.610 --> 01:39:04.450 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: because of the the State, the the legal mandates upon us. I think that we can. We have since had conversations about and in the poll. The new policy says 810 01:39:04.490 --> 01:39:10.860 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: we're going to share scoring criteria. We made the Board agree to that. So that is now in play. 811 01:39:11.130 --> 01:39:15.460 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: We just are in the middle, so I don't know how to give that to you. 812 01:39:15.720 --> 01:39:22.540 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: but it's always a process. When you move faster. We we do the development guidelines. We're able to 813 01:39:23.330 --> 01:39:30.440 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: go away, Select the developer. Bring it to the board. If you're upset, you come to the board you, you let them know 814 01:39:30.580 --> 01:39:49.310 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: That's the that's the public process. It's the culmination of like. Oh, my gosh! I said, all this stuff in the development guidelines, and these guys went and picked this crazy developer who's doing exactly the opposite of what I thought we all agreed to. No. And then you say that, and you make that point, and the Board has to do what the board has to do to contemplate that. That's 815 01:39:49.310 --> 01:39:50.780 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: That's how it's structured. 816 01:39:50.880 --> 01:40:04.750 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Because it's why. Why would you? Why would you pick a developer at odds with what the community, we would be because pitch we call it pitchforks, right like people will turn out and say. 817 01:40:04.770 --> 01:40:14.490 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: the staff are crazy. They're bringing a developer that doesn't reflect our interests, and they're so clearly explained in this document, these development guidelines. 818 01:40:14.940 --> 01:40:24.970 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: But we wouldn't do that. I mean, if we did, we would. we would be in trouble. So that's i'm not saying it's a perfect process. I'm not trying to say that i'm just sort of describing 819 01:40:25.040 --> 01:40:32.910 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: normally. When we're not you have a pandemic. We're about to lose our jobs, and we have a market 820 01:40:33.010 --> 01:40:53.030 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: big question mark over the market and the State law changes all at once. That's what happened in 3 years like it was a really rough time I like. I can't get back out there the way I want to get back out there. But now we're able to do that, and I I want to be able to assure you that you'll still have the chance when we bring these forward to the board 821 01:40:53.390 --> 01:40:57.060 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: to say something. And and more importantly for me. 822 01:40:57.450 --> 01:40:58.010 Okay. 823 01:40:58.100 --> 01:41:03.910 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: yeah, we're gonna get a developer on board. But that's when we start talking about a project, and that's when we have the conversations. 824 01:41:03.950 --> 01:41:07.390 You know. The others were bringing up about like 825 01:41:07.920 --> 01:41:13.760 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: they'll go hire community access. What the design Looks like what the 826 01:41:13.870 --> 01:41:17.440 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: the height bulk of massing that's when we can really dive into that stuff. 827 01:41:18.620 --> 01:41:20.700 frank murphy: Thank you. Okay, thanks. 828 01:41:23.330 --> 01:41:25.640 frank murphy: Oh. okay. 829 01:41:26.730 --> 01:41:31.840 frank murphy: That's pretty much wrapped it up. We we did want to catch 830 01:41:32.210 --> 01:41:39.070 frank murphy: one if he has anything, and I don't know if he wanted to catch stuff off topic or on topic. 831 01:41:42.020 --> 01:41:58.960 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: Thanks, Frank. I think overall I i'd like to at least stay on topic, for now, as as you've mentioned, and I've heard a few times, though there'll be more time to to further discuss some of the other things. I can give a just a brief update, just kind of over capping kind of recapping the the last time we were here 832 01:41:58.990 --> 01:42:22.660 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: again. Well, first off. Thanks. Well for stopping by and just providing the updates for the community. We do look forward to working with everybody on that front, but just real quick I have been. We have been meeting with path and Spy and the service providers, just addressing some of the general concerns we've heard from from the last meeting we had, and I can provide updates on that next time we meet. But 833 01:42:22.660 --> 01:42:35.590 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: path and path is open to to come in by, and maybe on the next meeting or so we can have it more here towards the service providers. But something. We can all discuss a little bit offline, and and then make sure everybody's aware of it 834 01:42:35.820 --> 01:42:43.330 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: real quick. Last time we had discussed doing a community survey in terms of the the least and kind of what's going on on sites. 835 01:42:43.330 --> 01:42:59.920 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: It will be released this weekend or tomorrow with our newsletter, so we would encourage everyone to sign up to the to the Newsletter on our website. I'll show the website link right now, and we'll push it out as well for the community to just give us some some general feedback, just on some of the things we discussed last time with 836 01:42:59.920 --> 01:43:12.450 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: with the lease and some of your concerns that that were brought up. We're gonna start a more formal kind of intake process, and that'll be distributed to our newsletter that, I think goes out tomorrow. 837 01:43:12.460 --> 01:43:32.320 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: and then let me see some of the things just briefly, that that briefly came up. We, our office will be working to try and cut through some of that red tape that was brought up earlier in terms of what's going on and trying to expedite, or at least get through any hurdles to kind of get the project moving along as as quick as as quickly as we can. 838 01:43:32.320 --> 01:43:48.820 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: As was mentioned earlier. The the Mayor's team is is pushing as well as as the Council woman, and as I as you should recall, we we had already asked Metro to push up the timeline a little bit, at least from what we're seeing. It's it's looking like the timeline's been cut by about a year. 839 01:43:48.820 --> 01:44:07.240 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: So again we will be a part of that process, and to address Brian some of the concerns which is kind of some of the task. Currency will be a part of that process. So, as things as wells mentioned, you know they will be working with our office. We'll be working with the community just kind of making sure that the process is flowing. 840 01:44:07.240 --> 01:44:25.100 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: and that everyone feels for. So we just wanna make sure we we thank everybody for participating and encourage everyone to participate. And as concerns comes up, it sounds like Metro is gonna be very open to listening to a lot of the feedback, and we'll be apart along for that process. So if anything comes up. 841 01:44:25.100 --> 01:44:42.380 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: feel free to reach out to our office and we're we're in communication with with the Metro team as well, so I can encourage everyone to sign up for our email, our newsletter, if you're not signed up for it. And I think, and in terms of everything else with everyone. If anything comes up, please reach out to our office and 842 01:44:42.380 --> 01:44:54.580 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: just a community in general. Right now we'll we'll all be in touch as we again do. More of these. Follow up meetings and and connect with the service providers on on some of the things to come. 843 01:44:56.450 --> 01:45:09.440 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: unless there's any questions right now, Frank, from anyone on on that front pertaining to this. But for the most part we're we're here to to support. Listen to some of the concerns and the updated presentation from the from the Metro team. 844 01:45:10.790 --> 01:45:11.740 frank murphy: That's great. 845 01:45:16.190 --> 01:45:34.810 frank murphy: I don't see anything from the panelists right now. but I know you guys have put in your time. and I truly appreciate it, and and I think it's beneficial on all sides, and we will be following up with that 846 01:45:34.950 --> 01:45:43.770 frank murphy: with the bridge housing issue to shortly, so we'll. We'll have a meeting of. Concerning that also 847 01:45:44.080 --> 01:45:53.050 lauren siegel: one question: is it possible Wells, to get a copy of your presentation or link it somewhere, so we can go through the timeline again 848 01:45:53.310 --> 01:46:11.500 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: for sure. Maybe, Frank, I should reach out to you. Get that information out 849 01:46:11.500 --> 01:46:13.330 frank murphy: in the package. That's 850 01:46:13.460 --> 01:46:18.000 frank murphy: It's not in there. The timeline Isn't: okay, Good. All right. Perfect. 851 01:46:18.610 --> 01:46:23.970 frank murphy: So there was a request for other properties in CD. 11 852 01:46:24.050 --> 01:46:25.860 PatRaphael: other than Division 6. 853 01:46:26.210 --> 01:46:31.010 PatRaphael: I know we're just concentrating on division 6 right now, but anything else 854 01:46:31.120 --> 01:46:34.790 PatRaphael: that's in the metro holdings in the area. 855 01:46:36.690 --> 01:46:43.210 frank murphy: and I think we have that spelled out to pat in the in the homeless. 856 01:46:43.290 --> 01:46:52.320 frank murphy: those site, those site studies. So we may, and and if not, we can. I can help you find out what that is. 857 01:46:52.430 --> 01:47:09.610 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: Also, if i'm not mistaken everyone. I think it's just this side and the cover, Median. We can always check again. But in terms of the metro and land on that front. I think it's just those 2. I'm fairly certain on it, but we couldn't only circle back and confirm that it's just 858 01:47:09.610 --> 01:47:20.440 Juan Fregoso - CD 11: this property and the the cover Median, in a sense pretty big. But I mean there's nothing that could be done in terms of development on that. It's not even being considered for that. It's just a median. 859 01:47:20.500 --> 01:47:26.510 frank murphy: all right. all right. Well. thank you so much. 860 01:47:27.620 --> 01:47:33.200 frank murphy: Thank you. Thank you so much. 861 01:47:33.270 --> 01:47:40.930 Wells Lawson, LA Metro TOC: Thank you. Thank you, everybody. 862 01:47:40.990 --> 01:47:46.710 frank murphy: I appreciate everybody attending as it was a great attendance this evening. 863 01:47:46.840 --> 01:47:52.810 Jody Mortimer: you know, I think, the next meeting that the the the land and this committee should join our meeting so the other way around. 864 01:47:55.360 --> 01:48:05.960 Jody Mortimer: Well, I guess it's important, so we'll we're not going to do it. We're more important. 865 01:48:05.970 --> 01:48:11.300 barrycassilly: everybody. Good night, bye. 866 01:48:11.350 --> 01:48:12.790 Ansar Muhammad: Good night.