WEBVTT 1 00:00:20.100 --> 00:00:22.070 jim murez: Evan, i'm promoting you. Now. 2 00:00:23.220 --> 00:00:25.430 jim murez: Allison, I'm promoting you. 3 00:00:26.550 --> 00:00:29.740 jim murez: Robert. I'm promoting you. 4 00:00:40.160 --> 00:00:42.360 Alyson Wilson: Hi, how are you doing? 5 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:43.790 Evan Corrigan: Good? 6 00:00:45.060 --> 00:00:46.270 robertthibodeau: Cool? 7 00:00:47.330 --> 00:00:48.750 Yeah. 8 00:00:49.230 --> 00:00:52.300 jim murez: Do you guys have a guest speaker or something tonight. 9 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:56.430 robertthibodeau: Yeah, we've got Jeff coming to the meeting cow. 10 00:00:57.100 --> 00:01:03.370 robertthibodeau: and then we've got Allison Queen from what is it? 11 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:16.650 robertthibodeau: Oh, yeah, Cal. Trans. It was unclear to me because I think her email was actually d Ot. Email. But but she came up under Cal Trans. And I don't don't quote me on that. I could be wrong. 12 00:01:16.660 --> 00:01:21.630 Evan Corrigan: Okay, and the bike share person, Joshua. 13 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:34.370 robertthibodeau: Oh, Josh, we we have a good meeting, Jim. Yeah, it sounds like it. Yeah. Are we going to wait a few minutes? So it's still. Really, we've got selen. I'm gonna i'm gonna I'll be back on one Sec. 14 00:01:35.790 --> 00:01:36.780 Alyson Wilson: Me, too. 15 00:01:40.370 --> 00:01:44.220 robertthibodeau: Everybody is disappearing. 16 00:02:20.140 --> 00:02:22.670 jim murez: Evan. I'm going to go ahead and make you 17 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:23.620 okay. 18 00:02:23.780 --> 00:02:27.180 Evan Corrigan: Co-host sounds good. Yeah. 19 00:02:27.220 --> 00:02:31.360 jim murez: And I will promote Robert as soon as he's back to being host. 20 00:02:39.690 --> 00:02:42.980 jim murez: My camera doesn't work half the time, so i'm just leaving it off, for now 21 00:02:43.430 --> 00:02:45.660 jim murez: there it is, but let's see if it works. 22 00:02:47.810 --> 00:02:48.500 jim murez: Nope. 23 00:03:32.030 --> 00:03:35.150 robertthibodeau: Robert, are you ready to take over his host? Yeah. 24 00:03:35.250 --> 00:03:41.310 robertthibodeau: i'm back. I'm gonna give a quick check to Selena and to Elizabeth? I know, I 25 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:44.110 robertthibodeau: I said that we're going to be on. 26 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:54.290 robertthibodeau: But thanks, Jim. 27 00:03:54.440 --> 00:03:59.450 robertthibodeau: Yeah, come back in if you get time, you know. Yeah, no, I i'll be here. But 28 00:03:59.970 --> 00:04:06.280 jim murez: my video. Frequently, Ever since they updated this thing has been going. Flutter, flutter, flutter. 29 00:04:06.580 --> 00:04:07.940 jim murez: There it goes. See. 30 00:04:08.200 --> 00:04:17.920 jim murez: I don't know what causes out. It makes it really weird, and they don't have an update for it. 31 00:04:18.880 --> 00:04:25.790 robertthibodeau: Movie character from Mtv. Was what's his name? 32 00:04:27.300 --> 00:04:42.480 robertthibodeau: God damn! Now i'm forgetting early days of Video Max header. So rocky, Morton who we did so Elizabeth Clay is on if you want to promote her. I don't have that right anymore, Robert. You do, and Evan, you do 33 00:04:43.260 --> 00:04:44.690 robertthibodeau: so. 34 00:04:45.670 --> 00:04:49.020 robertthibodeau: Oops. It's not what i'm trying to do here. 35 00:04:49.940 --> 00:04:52.880 robertthibodeau: Great chance participants 36 00:04:53.410 --> 00:04:54.700 jim murez: you look at. Yeah 37 00:04:54.830 --> 00:04:58.940 robertthibodeau: on attendee on the attendee list. 38 00:05:00.630 --> 00:05:02.900 jim murez: and then you sort of scroll over to the right 39 00:05:03.410 --> 00:05:07.010 robertthibodeau: panelists. Damn! It took me second to get there. 40 00:05:07.320 --> 00:05:11.710 robertthibodeau: and Selena. I just texted She's usually pretty punctual, but 41 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:14.620 Evan Corrigan: Elizabeth declined. 42 00:05:15.520 --> 00:05:19.990 robertthibodeau: Can we try again? 43 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:22.830 Evan Corrigan: Sure. 44 00:05:30.060 --> 00:05:32.140 Evan Corrigan: And there's Selena right now. 45 00:05:37.760 --> 00:05:41.840 robertthibodeau: They keep moving around here. Did you promote Selena? 46 00:05:42.660 --> 00:05:43.590 Evan Corrigan: I did 47 00:05:45.010 --> 00:05:46.340 Evan Corrigan: so. There she is. 48 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:47.490 robertthibodeau: Okay. 49 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:51.410 robertthibodeau: And I think I think Elizabeth is into now. 50 00:05:51.470 --> 00:05:55.120 robertthibodeau: and i'm going to promote a Allison Queen, too. Yes, please. 51 00:05:58.660 --> 00:06:03.950 robertthibodeau: I wonder if dial in call, or we'll find out. Let's take. We can take a role and figure it out 52 00:06:08.850 --> 00:06:09.730 robertthibodeau: nice. 53 00:06:15.650 --> 00:06:17.880 Evan Corrigan: shall we? 54 00:06:18.710 --> 00:06:19.380 robertthibodeau: Yep. 55 00:06:19.510 --> 00:06:28.080 robertthibodeau: Jeff, if you come in or you're a number, Will you raise your hand, so we can see that you're here, and we'll promote you to a panelist. 56 00:06:33.690 --> 00:06:37.730 jim murez: Robert. Just so, you know you can't promote call callers 57 00:06:37.760 --> 00:06:47.300 robertthibodeau: on a cell phone to being a panelist. All you can do is unmute them. 58 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:56.940 robertthibodeau: This is why tech guys are faster than old minute 59 00:06:57.280 --> 00:06:58.480 robertthibodeau: doing meetings. 60 00:07:08.950 --> 00:07:10.900 Evan Corrigan: Okay. 61 00:07:10.940 --> 00:07:15.720 robertthibodeau: So we're good to go. Do you want me to take role here, Evan? Sure. 62 00:07:16.540 --> 00:07:21.490 robertthibodeau: So i'm just going to go in order. So Robert is here. That's me, Evan. 63 00:07:23.140 --> 00:07:24.080 Evan Corrigan: Here 64 00:07:24.110 --> 00:07:27.170 robertthibodeau: here. Elizabeth. 65 00:07:29.570 --> 00:07:30.850 robertthibodeau: We know you're here. 66 00:07:31.330 --> 00:07:34.500 Alyson Wilson: I'll come back to her. Allison here. 67 00:07:34.830 --> 00:07:35.850 robertthibodeau: Selena 68 00:07:36.200 --> 00:07:37.000 Selena Inouye: here. 69 00:07:37.050 --> 00:07:45.520 robertthibodeau: and Jim was here. So we're gonna mark a 100%. I'm gonna grab a pan. I'll be back on 1 s. Oh, Robert, I can take notes. It's. 70 00:07:57.610 --> 00:08:02.530 robertthibodeau: yeah, a couple of minutes 71 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:03.420 robertthibodeau: for that. 72 00:08:05.700 --> 00:08:07.560 robertthibodeau: Okay, thanks for the pause 73 00:08:09.940 --> 00:08:14.820 robertthibodeau: and so roll calls. Done. 74 00:08:15.130 --> 00:08:16.260 Evan Corrigan: Elizabeth. 75 00:08:16.750 --> 00:08:17.840 robertthibodeau: Oh, yeah. 76 00:08:19.510 --> 00:08:23.050 Elizabeth C.: yeah, I'm. Here I got it. Hang on 77 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:34.830 robertthibodeau: chasing her pets around, apparently. So everybody's here. It is 7. Oh, 3 78 00:08:35.740 --> 00:08:40.929 robertthibodeau: say 7 0 3 meeting is call to order review comment and dot 79 00:08:40.950 --> 00:08:46.540 robertthibodeau: minutes from prior meeting. Evan. I didn't get those together. Did you get them together by any chance. 80 00:08:49.010 --> 00:08:51.350 Evan Corrigan: Yes, but I have to dig for them. 81 00:08:54.460 --> 00:09:03.770 robertthibodeau: Hey? Okay, If you send them to me, i'll, if you send them to me and let you know. Let me know you send them to me. I'll drop them into the site. 82 00:09:04.880 --> 00:09:09.020 robertthibodeau: and then we can do a couple next time for behind. Yeah. 83 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:11.620 robertthibodeau: So we're gonna skip 3 84 00:09:14.210 --> 00:09:19.180 robertthibodeau: public comment. Non-agenda items related to parking and transportation. 85 00:09:19.870 --> 00:09:25.510 robertthibodeau: So now, we're gonna take, do you? Well, you're probably faster. Than me. So if you see hands up, go for it. 86 00:09:26.020 --> 00:09:27.730 Evan Corrigan: Robin. 87 00:09:28.220 --> 00:09:35.000 Evan Corrigan: I just want to thank Jeff and Allison for attending the meeting. Absolutely. I'm good. 88 00:09:35.470 --> 00:09:40.630 robertthibodeau: So we have, so i'll give Robin. Let us talk. 89 00:09:42.790 --> 00:09:54.640 Robin Murez: Hi! So it just came to my attention that there are some City council motions for creating these digital billboards all over end, digital bus, stop 90 00:09:54.780 --> 00:09:59.410 Robin Murez: structures all over the city and primarily in 91 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:03.600 Robin Murez: like highly touristed areas like ours, and 92 00:10:03.710 --> 00:10:12.800 Robin Murez: it's something that I don't know if it your committee wants to address it, but it seems like there are other neighborhood councils that have put in. 93 00:10:13.980 --> 00:10:19.250 robertthibodeau: Yeah, we put in 2 Cis on those 94 00:10:19.340 --> 00:10:26.000 Robin Murez: great okay, I think there may be more files because I looked at some, and I didn't see them from the Neighborhood Council 95 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:33.070 robertthibodeau: email them through to us, but we definitely hit at least 2 that I remember. 96 00:10:33.770 --> 00:10:35.270 robertthibodeau: And 97 00:10:35.910 --> 00:10:48.780 robertthibodeau: yeah, we definitely voted on them. I know we've filed at least one Cis. Whether or not we actually got the other one done is, it is I'd have to go back and check. But I know I know we voted on the digital stuff twice. 98 00:10:48.860 --> 00:10:57.210 Robin Murez: Great. Okay, yeah, i'll try to get the exact info 99 00:10:57.360 --> 00:11:03.640 robertthibodeau: which was not supporting the bus bench things. And then second one was for the information signs. 100 00:11:04.020 --> 00:11:09.010 robertthibodeau: digital information signs that they were going to put it at the freeway entrances. 101 00:11:09.830 --> 00:11:16.400 Robin Murez: Yeah. So I think those 2 things are still happening. From what I understand, there's also a lawsuit that's being brought by 102 00:11:16.610 --> 00:11:25.460 Robin Murez: community members to try to prevent those from happening, and it's it's Co. Involving Metro also. 103 00:11:25.490 --> 00:11:43.180 robertthibodeau: So i'll get you more info. But yeah, I think it's something that we should chime in on if we haven't in every way we can. 104 00:11:43.400 --> 00:11:46.960 robertthibodeau: But thank you. Okay. Well, who else? We got 105 00:11:47.560 --> 00:11:48.860 Evan Corrigan: Steve. 106 00:11:51.740 --> 00:12:02.500 Steve Bradbury: hey? Good evening, everybody. Thank you. I just wanted to bring to the committee's attention the ongoing saga on Hurricane Street. There's an kind of twist that I mentioned to a couple of you 107 00:12:02.770 --> 00:12:06.720 Steve Bradbury: the somebody who lives on Fleet, which is 2 blocks away. 108 00:12:06.730 --> 00:12:22.460 Steve Bradbury: apparently unbeknownst to everybody, filed a complaint with the city about parking on Hurricane Street, and the result of it was that the department of transportation removed for parking spaces from Hurricane Street put up to away 109 00:12:22.500 --> 00:12:42.440 Steve Bradbury: on 4 parking spots, based on their determination that they think it was dangerous to have parking there, although I've lived there 16 years, and it's never been an issue to my knowledge, and then, when I wrote to them, and this goes back a number of months. When I wrote to them, they said, Well, when we determine something like this, we don't have to consult with the community 110 00:12:42.550 --> 00:12:44.950 Steve Bradbury: or let anybody know we can just go do it. 111 00:12:45.110 --> 00:12:50.900 Steve Bradbury: So they went and just did it on their own, based on a complaint from someone who lives on a different street. 112 00:12:50.950 --> 00:13:02.390 Steve Bradbury: And I wanted to make you aware of it. I've been trying to work through Tracy Parks office to get them to pay attention to it, but they haven't at this point, so I thought it might be worthwhile to bring it to the 113 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:07.150 Steve Bradbury: committees attention, whether address this month, or maybe next month. 114 00:13:07.190 --> 00:13:18.630 Steve Bradbury: You said the spots are on hurricane. I'm sorry, I interrupted. You trying to take notes at the same time? You said spots are on hurricane for spots, and then on this, on the south side of hurricane. Originally 115 00:13:18.670 --> 00:13:35.400 Steve Bradbury: they they posted no parking for the the first spot closest to Pacific on both the north and south side, which okay kind of made sense, because it's a little bit of a blind turn, but they've now taken away all of the spots on the south side of Hurricane the 4 spots, and 116 00:13:35.420 --> 00:13:51.470 Steve Bradbury: unfortunately we're dealing. We're now with the Coastal Commission hopefully at some point in the next several months about the that project which is previously discussed with all of you and the desire on the city to put a parking lot at the end of hurricane. All this does is justify. 117 00:13:51.560 --> 00:13:57.300 Steve Bradbury: or more or more reason why they should be public parking, because now there's 4 less spots on the street. 118 00:13:57.410 --> 00:14:02.110 Steve Bradbury: So whether it was a coincidence or not. it just seems like 119 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:12.200 robertthibodeau: this is an issue that just won't. Go away. Why, don't you? I mean one thing that you could do would be to use the electronic system, and. 120 00:14:12.350 --> 00:14:16.210 robertthibodeau: you know, come up with a motion in the next couple of weeks, and 121 00:14:16.580 --> 00:14:32.580 robertthibodeau: and then we can hear it on the first of next month. If that works in your timeframe. I don't think anything's gonna happen faster than that. To be honest, No, this has been going on since last like last August, and like, I said, I've been trying to deal with Tracy Parks. 122 00:14:32.590 --> 00:14:43.790 Steve Bradbury: They're so overwhelmed with everything it doesn't really right Hasn't really risen to the level of we want to pay attention to it yet, so i'll put somebody together for you for next month, and thank you. 123 00:14:45.030 --> 00:14:51.010 robertthibodeau: and we've got. I think we we have 2 more participants, Elizabeth. 124 00:14:53.620 --> 00:14:54.540 robertthibodeau: What I mean. 125 00:14:55.440 --> 00:15:04.550 Isabelle Duvivier: Do you mean, Isabelle? Yeah. So just even though I wasn't going to comment on this, the staff 126 00:15:04.570 --> 00:15:12.430 Isabelle Duvivier: I came before the Board of public works last week. That was the bus Stop the lighted shelters. 127 00:15:12.430 --> 00:15:29.690 Isabelle Duvivier: and one thing I noticed that was very interesting is that they were. They were before the Board of Public Works because they were reorganizing where they were putting them. And there's a list of where they're going, and Pacific Palisades has successfully gotten all of them removed from their 128 00:15:29.690 --> 00:15:40.450 Isabelle Duvivier: council, or whatever it's called. So I thought that was really interesting, like, how did they do that? So they're very on top of it, but you can get a list. 129 00:15:40.450 --> 00:15:56.710 Isabelle Duvivier: I don't know where it is right now, but I saw the list of all of the places where those lighted. They're gonna go. Those lighted shelters are gonna go. My public comment is, though i'm wondering what what can we do? And would you think it valuable to consider 130 00:15:56.710 --> 00:16:13.000 Isabelle Duvivier: a 4 way cross walk at Abbott, Kenny and Main Street right now you can. You can only cross 3 ways. I'm not talking about like a crossing on a diagonal i'm just cross thinking about crossing from each of the 4 corners. It's such a 131 00:16:13.140 --> 00:16:16.270 Isabelle Duvivier: your intersection, and you have to 132 00:16:16.420 --> 00:16:26.580 Isabelle Duvivier: one of the 4 crosswalks isn't there it's not lighted for that. So I was wondering if that's something you'd be interested in taking on. And then how do I bring it before you. 133 00:16:28.150 --> 00:16:36.420 robertthibodeau: It's funny, because I was just thinking about that. I was down at that intersection last week and had to do the 134 00:16:36.900 --> 00:16:45.910 robertthibodeau: 3 the 3 extra loops. You know what I mean, like just south, and then across and then back north again. And I thought about that exact same thing. 135 00:16:47.190 --> 00:16:52.820 robertthibodeau: You could put a do you know, Are you familiar with the electron or Jim set up a 136 00:16:53.020 --> 00:17:00.280 robertthibodeau: an electronic agenda request system? And so that's sort of what we've been following. If you emailed me 137 00:17:00.490 --> 00:17:04.819 robertthibodeau: to the Vnc. Email, I would I would help as well. But 138 00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:15.930 robertthibodeau: either one way or the other, preferably the electronic one is really how I think he wants it to to work, so that there's tracking of them. But if you write it we'll put it on for the next meeting. 139 00:17:16.420 --> 00:17:17.270 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay. 140 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:18.369 robertthibodeau: Sounds good. 141 00:17:20.369 --> 00:17:25.170 robertthibodeau: Agreed on that, Shawn O'brien. 142 00:17:26.069 --> 00:17:27.359 Evan Corrigan: That's the last one. 143 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:33.380 Sean Obrien: Yeah, I'm: Sorry i'm about 144 00:17:33.490 --> 00:17:37.210 Sean Obrien: not following everything. Is this public comment. 145 00:17:37.420 --> 00:17:43.480 robertthibodeau: This is a public comment items not on the agenda, but they should be related to parking and transportation. 146 00:17:43.600 --> 00:17:47.280 Sean Obrien: Yes, thank you. I'm glad I all chimed in 147 00:17:48.710 --> 00:17:49.860 Sean Obrien: last month 148 00:17:49.990 --> 00:17:54.470 Sean Obrien: I brought to your attention about the signage 149 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:57.000 Sean Obrien: in the parking lots of 150 00:17:57.080 --> 00:18:00.240 Sean Obrien: the farmers market and West. 151 00:18:00.360 --> 00:18:02.890 Sean Obrien: I don't know what it is. 603 152 00:18:02.930 --> 00:18:09.490 Sean Obrien: and 671-70-3700ne! But it! Wh what it, Whatever the parking numbers are. 153 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:14.270 Sean Obrien: I Unfortunately I was unable. 154 00:18:14.890 --> 00:18:16.400 Sean Obrien: through 155 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:24.480 Sean Obrien: through all rain. procrastination. and 156 00:18:24.840 --> 00:18:26.810 Sean Obrien: work 157 00:18:27.170 --> 00:18:36.290 Sean Obrien: that I wasn't able to take pictures and give you this stuff. But I was hoping that we can get it on the agenda to get the signs 158 00:18:36.370 --> 00:18:40.200 Sean Obrien: that are on the Pacific dell 159 00:18:43.020 --> 00:18:47.170 Sean Obrien: the Pacific dell parking lot to get the 160 00:18:47.300 --> 00:18:48.990 Sean Obrien: timestamp 161 00:18:49.340 --> 00:18:54.950 Sean Obrien: removed, and then also get get the signs done. We we did this about a year ago 162 00:18:55.230 --> 00:19:05.990 Sean Obrien: 8 months ago. and that's all you know, and you know i'm here to help. But I I missed it. I'm sorry. but can we get that on the agenda? Thank you. 163 00:19:07.570 --> 00:19:18.640 robertthibodeau: We will. I I think we got a full agenda for tonight is my guess, but I am happy to hear that, and we heard it the time before, and I guess the language was wrong or something, or 164 00:19:18.650 --> 00:19:29.010 robertthibodeau: somehow we screwed up, I think. And yes, I was waiting for either you or Allison to for the language. I actually think I checked back, in 165 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:48.920 robertthibodeau: which is understandable, Shawn. We all have jobs, and i'm sorry. So can you or Alison, who lives across street, possibly get us that language. So we put it on, and we will not miss it. I'd swear to God 166 00:19:48.980 --> 00:19:50.160 robertthibodeau: for the next meeting. 167 00:19:50.530 --> 00:19:55.560 Sean Obrien: Yes, yes, I like, I said. I drop the ball. I'm more than happy to help. Thank you. 168 00:19:55.720 --> 00:20:06.200 robertthibodeau: Okay. And just so, you know, Shawn, we we are following up tonight with some information regarding Lincoln, because you also brought up in that same meeting. 169 00:20:06.420 --> 00:20:15.390 robertthibodeau: Would it be possible to explore the undergrounding of the electric? And and behold, we followed up with somebody. 170 00:20:15.600 --> 00:20:20.190 robertthibodeau: Caltrans led ot. Who's been wonderful 171 00:20:20.250 --> 00:20:36.870 robertthibodeau: on email so far, and she's in the audience right now. And so we're gonna quiz her on that stuff. And that was at your request. So we are trying to follow up and thank you. Thank you so much. Yup. And you may want to stick around for that one if you can. 172 00:20:36.870 --> 00:20:43.540 robertthibodeau: Yeah, it'll be one of the early ones. We'll put it on early. Okay. Any more hands raised. 173 00:20:45.990 --> 00:20:47.040 Evan Corrigan: No. 174 00:20:47.980 --> 00:20:53.740 robertthibodeau: Okay. So we're closing public comment. Thank you. And 175 00:20:54.600 --> 00:21:01.730 robertthibodeau: old business. We're gonna skip over all business, because I don't think we have anything new on this. 176 00:21:02.070 --> 00:21:10.030 robertthibodeau: My only comment is that I did meet with Mikhail Jensen in order to try and schedule 177 00:21:10.420 --> 00:21:21.000 robertthibodeau: a I'm. Just letting the Committee and other people know to try and schedule at a date on certain A Co. Meeting with the Lu PC. And Ptc. 178 00:21:21.330 --> 00:21:22.830 robertthibodeau: To 179 00:21:23.130 --> 00:21:29.200 robertthibodeau: go over this, you know. Suggestions we talked about some year and a half ago. 180 00:21:29.330 --> 00:21:35.750 robertthibodeau: and call something together, but we we everybody's been busy with the election and other things. So 181 00:21:35.820 --> 00:21:39.120 robertthibodeau: hopefully we get that that on the books. 182 00:21:39.830 --> 00:21:42.410 robertthibodeau: and I will let you all know when it happens. 183 00:21:43.540 --> 00:21:44.970 robertthibodeau: New business 184 00:21:45.420 --> 00:21:55.800 robertthibodeau: is is i'm gonna ask Evan Evan. Is this the order you want to take things in? Given the attendees that we have? You're welcome to shuffle them if you want to. 185 00:21:55.830 --> 00:21:57.540 Evan Corrigan: Oh, no. 186 00:21:57.800 --> 00:22:08.020 Evan Corrigan: maybe we we want to do either an intro with Jeff from C. 11 or Allison. Let me know how you know you want to go through it? 187 00:22:09.130 --> 00:22:27.950 robertthibodeau: It seems like both of them would be involved in the Lincoln, but only one of them would be involved with the Venice, either Venice Boulevard or Abbott Kinney, and that would be Jeff. So in respect to Allison's time. Maybe we take 6 first, and then and then and then it will move maybe 188 00:22:27.950 --> 00:22:31.260 robertthibodeau: 6, then 7, 189 00:22:31.910 --> 00:22:41.090 robertthibodeau: and then 5 or something, which is, or 6 5 7 6 7 5, something like that. Does that seem okay, and that way we can keep her night a little shorter. 190 00:22:41.270 --> 00:22:49.770 robertthibodeau: Okay. So we're gonna move into Item Number 6, which is, as we just started talking about that we're 191 00:22:50.890 --> 00:22:58.300 robertthibodeau: as sort of an intro. There were a couple of things that have been brought up on Lincoln. one 192 00:22:59.410 --> 00:23:05.410 robertthibodeau: which isn't on here, but has happened just for people who haven't been at these meetings because we do have a 193 00:23:05.500 --> 00:23:09.680 robertthibodeau: a decent number of participants. Tonight is 194 00:23:10.100 --> 00:23:22.930 robertthibodeau: the northbound and southbound Parking lanes of Lincoln are are are planned to be, and are going to be, bus only lanes with no parking for limited hours. 195 00:23:23.140 --> 00:23:34.040 robertthibodeau: and the ours seem to be have maybe moved around a little bit. It was originally just the southbound lane, and then the northbound lane was added. I believe 196 00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:43.320 robertthibodeau: it's something like 7 to 9 for the northbound lane, and I believe it is 4 to 7 for the southbound lane. Don't 197 00:23:43.850 --> 00:23:54.530 robertthibodeau: take that super accurately, but I think that's what it is. In addition to that, Shawn had brought up a question about possibly undergrounding 198 00:23:55.550 --> 00:24:04.470 robertthibodeau: the power, and what would be involved in that, especially as we know there is a fair amount of infrastructure 199 00:24:04.540 --> 00:24:09.940 robertthibodeau: sort of grants from the county, I believe, has control of those. 200 00:24:10.120 --> 00:24:17.060 robertthibodeau: And then, thirdly, as this sort of relates to the power on Lincoln is 201 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:21.450 robertthibodeau: the possibility of improving the streetscape through 202 00:24:21.910 --> 00:24:24.400 robertthibodeau: at a minimum. 203 00:24:25.020 --> 00:24:34.930 robertthibodeau: improving the existing planting boxes, where a lot of the trees have sort of been destroyed or dead, and then ideally, even improving beyond that. 204 00:24:36.110 --> 00:24:45.400 robertthibodeau: And a lot of that has to do with the locations of the power lines because it's fairly limiting right now, because the low height of the lowest of the lines. 205 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:53.020 robertthibodeau: So saying no more on that. How do you want to go about this 7. 206 00:24:53.620 --> 00:24:59.110 robertthibodeau: So we but Allison, with that said, maybe we bring her on. And 207 00:24:59.540 --> 00:25:06.040 Evan Corrigan: yeah, sure, I mean, yeah, I just sum up again, I mean, I've been on the committee for just a year, but 208 00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:09.430 Evan Corrigan: I hear you know so much feedback about Lincoln. 209 00:25:09.830 --> 00:25:11.920 Evan Corrigan: so really trying to think 210 00:25:12.030 --> 00:25:18.950 Evan Corrigan: how to make it a more complete street and a more beautiful street and a street that people want to walk on 211 00:25:20.410 --> 00:25:23.500 Evan Corrigan: right now. You know it's clogged with traffic a lot of the day. 212 00:25:25.820 --> 00:25:32.690 Evan Corrigan: So we're just keeping that all in mind. And I, we have some presentations we worked on last year. But 213 00:25:34.380 --> 00:25:40.160 robertthibodeau: yeah, could you zip through your presentation? 214 00:25:40.470 --> 00:25:48.340 robertthibodeau: Because I think Allison and Jeff Haven't seen this, and I think it would be really nice for them to see your presentation. Maybe you could kind of 215 00:25:48.580 --> 00:25:53.790 robertthibodeau: do the to the quick fly by on it, and you put a lot of work in it. And 216 00:25:53.940 --> 00:25:58.590 Evan Corrigan: yeah, do we want to just introduce Alison and Jeff right now, maybe 217 00:25:58.630 --> 00:25:59.480 robertthibodeau: sure. 218 00:25:59.620 --> 00:26:02.620 Evan Corrigan: Give him a second to, you know. Say, hi. 219 00:26:03.830 --> 00:26:05.850 Evan Corrigan: Alison, you wanna 220 00:26:06.140 --> 00:26:11.140 Allison Queen: Hello, everyone! Thank you so much for inviting me to your meeting 221 00:26:11.220 --> 00:26:17.700 Allison Queen: today. I really appreciate it. I'm. A public information officer with Caltrans District 7. 222 00:26:17.800 --> 00:26:27.210 Allison Queen: We handle Los Angeles and Ventura County's freeways, and we also handle Lincoln Boulevard, which is highway one 223 00:26:27.600 --> 00:26:32.020 Allison Queen: the last time I spoke with Is it, Evan? 224 00:26:33.820 --> 00:26:51.840 Allison Queen: I think you've spoken with both Evan and me? The the so is our senior landscape architect in the last I've heard from him was last Wednesday. He's looking at the maintenance agreement. So basically 225 00:26:52.400 --> 00:27:06.260 Allison Queen: I think we have it an agreement with the city. And so i'm going to provide you guys hopefully by tomorrow, as soon as he gets back to me. Information regarding Lincoln and what can be done for improvements 226 00:27:06.270 --> 00:27:10.020 Allison Queen: regarding that, or fine trees like. If 227 00:27:10.130 --> 00:27:20.910 Allison Queen: so, these these can be planned. The question will be, who's going to maintain them? And that's the issue, and I hope to have that information for you 228 00:27:20.990 --> 00:27:25.550 Allison Queen: tomorrow. I don't have that information today. 229 00:27:26.010 --> 00:27:30.750 robertthibodeau: and Isabel, I see you're still on here, I mean. Obviously. 230 00:27:31.550 --> 00:27:37.820 robertthibodeau: if it looks like things are even reasonably close to a go, we would be consulting with 231 00:27:37.850 --> 00:27:46.730 robertthibodeau: you and Sarah regarding anything right. I hope 232 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:58.870 Isabelle Duvivier: there are a number of open tree wells that have no trees in them. There are there aren't that many dead and dying trees. But there are a lot of trees that are suffering because they're 233 00:27:59.020 --> 00:28:08.610 Isabelle Duvivier: their tree well, has been filled in to such a degree where it used to be a 4 by 4, and now it's like a 18 by 18 inch 234 00:28:09.290 --> 00:28:11.450 Isabelle Duvivier: tree. Well, so I would say that 235 00:28:11.550 --> 00:28:15.240 Isabelle Duvivier: you know Vvg. Would be happy to help 236 00:28:15.270 --> 00:28:32.980 Isabelle Duvivier: take care of some of those trees depending on how many empty tree wells there, but at a very minimum your agency would be really appreciated if you could help us expand the tree Wells, where we have existing healthy, mature trees that are suffering 237 00:28:32.980 --> 00:28:42.340 robertthibodeau: because they don't have large enough spaces that it is about. Can I give you my email address. Can you send me that in writing? Can you send me an email? 238 00:28:42.610 --> 00:28:48.210 Isabelle Duvivier: Yes, Give me a minute to get my 239 00:28:48.430 --> 00:28:56.270 Isabelle Duvivier: alright. Well, anyone who has questions is welcome to email me, and i'll get back to you as soon as I can. So it's Allison with 2 L's. 240 00:28:57.710 --> 00:29:01.510 Isabelle Duvivier: Yes, dot dot Queen Q. U. E. N. 241 00:29:01.900 --> 00:29:07.560 Allison Queen: At D, Otc. A. Gov. 242 00:29:08.360 --> 00:29:09.130 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay. 243 00:29:10.620 --> 00:29:18.120 Allison Queen: I can leave you in an email to together. 244 00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:30.340 Allison Queen: I have any questions you guys have. Just let me know if I can't answer it, i'll find the answer for you. My mom lives right in the Marina. I lived in Venice for years, so i'm familiar with the area. 245 00:29:30.550 --> 00:29:38.280 robertthibodeau: How about the undergrounding? Do you have any information on the undergrounding, and who we would talk to just 246 00:29:38.460 --> 00:29:50.990 robertthibodeau: even at a feasibility level? What do you mean underground? Well, I mean the powers all been underground in Santa Monica, so there's no more. There's no more lines on Lincoln in Santa Monica. 247 00:29:52.600 --> 00:29:56.450 robertthibodeau: and it seems like other parts of the city. 248 00:29:56.690 --> 00:30:03.950 robertthibodeau: things have been undergrounded even on Venice, Boulevard, and other places. 249 00:30:04.070 --> 00:30:05.090 robertthibodeau: So 250 00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:16.180 robertthibodeau: this section, you know, it's very noticeable, because the transmission lines seem to serve large areas well beyond Venice. It's the high transmission lines. 251 00:30:16.310 --> 00:30:34.710 robertthibodeau: and it would certainly make a difference like if we were to be trying to create a canopy with Isabel, who is just on here right now. The the the level of the canopy is so low, and one of the reasons we've had a lot of trees cut down by the store owners is because they block the 252 00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:38.380 robertthibodeau: the the face of the business. 253 00:30:38.600 --> 00:30:58.080 robertthibodeau: But that's because you can only plant really short trees trees, I mean. The trees you can plan are like 15 feet, you know, and it's a big street. It's a big boulevard, as you know, from living here. And so, anyways, if you, if you have a contact, if somebody or know of a process or a way 254 00:30:58.350 --> 00:31:05.670 robertthibodeau: to even start a discussion. We may just be told. No, but i'd like to try, anyway. It doesn't hurt to try, does it? 255 00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:08.620 Allison Queen: It does it, Robert? I just sent you an email. 256 00:31:08.630 --> 00:31:15.860 robertthibodeau: If you can respond to that email at your leisure and put it all in writing again, I could get you to the right person. 257 00:31:16.190 --> 00:31:26.830 Allison Queen: Yeah. So just Fyi, you're You're you guys belong to our West Region Maintenance yard, and that's one support that kind of off of of 258 00:31:26.970 --> 00:31:30.910 Allison Queen: national. Do you know where that's at? Okay. 259 00:31:31.340 --> 00:31:34.490 Allison Queen: That's that's the region that takes care of Lincoln. 260 00:31:35.250 --> 00:31:41.380 Allison Queen: They're on Sepulchre National. That's our West region Maintenance Yard 261 00:31:42.790 --> 00:31:44.230 robertthibodeau: and 262 00:31:44.780 --> 00:31:50.690 Jeff Khau: Hey, Robert? Yep. I actually looked into the undergrounding. I can give you an update. I can talk to dwp about it. 263 00:31:50.860 --> 00:32:03.790 Jeff Khau: There's actually 3 options for undergrounding. One is that the city pays for it. The second is that it's it's a shared. The cost is shared between the city and the and a private developer, and the third is a private valve or paying for it. 264 00:32:03.910 --> 00:32:15.500 Jeff Khau: So the third option is usually done When a developer, you know, does a new track or a new block, and it's able to kind of do the undergrounding before any utilities are set up. 265 00:32:16.600 --> 00:32:27.340 Jeff Khau: But this is the easiest way, and and so, you know, developer would think you know ahead and be like oh, we want to underground the utilities. And so it's it's done on the developer's time 266 00:32:27.650 --> 00:32:36.130 Jeff Khau: when this when the city does it when the city pays for it, it's a much, much more strenuous process. It's only happened 267 00:32:36.300 --> 00:32:43.210 Jeff Khau: 2 and 2, 3 times. I think in the history of of the under of, I guess the 268 00:32:43.560 --> 00:32:47.060 Jeff Khau: this part of the code that allows the city to pay for the undergrounding. 269 00:32:47.130 --> 00:32:54.350 Jeff Khau: you know, other than requiring a council motion. It also requires buying from every single per, every single 270 00:32:54.380 --> 00:33:02.870 Jeff Khau: land, lord or owner all along Lincoln; and if one person even holds out. Then the deals deals done 271 00:33:03.280 --> 00:33:08.110 Jeff Khau: so. Not only do we have to get buying from everyone on Long Lincoln, or 272 00:33:08.180 --> 00:33:29.490 Jeff Khau: for a single block on Lincoln, but even if the city pays for for every, for for the undergrounding, every business owner would be held to paying for the connection, from the from the main line to their own property, and that could cost upward to 10,000 plus dollars. So 273 00:33:29.580 --> 00:33:38.590 Evan Corrigan: so even oh, so I think the those lines don't actually feed a lot of those businesses on Lincoln. Right, Robert, can you? 274 00:33:38.700 --> 00:33:43.730 robertthibodeau: The the lines that run up and down the street all go 275 00:33:44.060 --> 00:33:53.710 robertthibodeau: past Venice. and the ones that feed the businesses are actually on polls and the alleys in the back. Yeah. So you don't have transmission lines coming. 276 00:33:54.120 --> 00:34:06.600 robertthibodeau: It's all it's all to service. Other communities, like the lines go. you know, from Marina del Rey, and then fly through Venice and go into Santa Monica, but they don't You don't pull off of those lines 277 00:34:06.740 --> 00:34:08.560 robertthibodeau: at least. Yeah. 278 00:34:08.780 --> 00:34:14.909 Jeff Khau: this is understanding that that it even makes it more tough because you would be move lines for people that are not along linkedin that are not 279 00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:20.270 Jeff Khau: maybe even in part of the Venice community, right? So you would have to get there by in 280 00:34:20.310 --> 00:34:28.940 Jeff Khau: and the buy-in of the of not only the the utility providers, but, like, you know, the spectrum cable, and like people that use 281 00:34:28.940 --> 00:34:42.880 Jeff Khau: what, what, what, what dwp was able to tell me. And I spoke with Kerry Mccorkle from Dwp, but the top 25 of every power line is Dwp and their stuff, and then everything else is cable companies, internet companies, etc. And so 282 00:34:42.929 --> 00:34:57.790 Jeff Khau: a lot of coordination that needs to happen for that to even occur. And so I don't know if Dwp was just saying all this to discourage us from from doing the undergrounding, but it seemed like a huge feat, and it is possible it's just 283 00:34:57.850 --> 00:35:02.410 Jeff Khau: unlikely that that this would happen is. 284 00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:14.860 Jeff Khau: and you know they they pointed to an example of when Jen Perry put in a motion for undergrounding for Central City, like the Arts district area, and that started in 2,004, I believe. 285 00:35:15.170 --> 00:35:19.520 Jeff Khau: and they're still working on it today. So 286 00:35:19.600 --> 00:35:47.880 Jeff Khau: you know what they were basically saying like it's, it's an uphill battle, although it is possible. And I can show you the code sections where it's out. You know the first option, second option and third option. But they were kind of hinting that this, this, these requests don't usually go through, especially what they the first option where the city pays for it. Usually the undergrounding will occur if the developer pays for it, and it's usually done with new construction, because that's the easiest time to do it as opposed to like 287 00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:49.350 Jeff Khau: doing it after the fact 288 00:35:49.380 --> 00:35:50.130 robertthibodeau: right. 289 00:35:50.300 --> 00:35:57.690 Evan Corrigan: but a developer, if it. The lines are not feeding their properties like, let's say somebody builds an important building on Lincoln. 290 00:36:00.500 --> 00:36:04.340 Evan Corrigan: Why would they pay to underground it if it's 291 00:36:05.450 --> 00:36:11.270 Jeff Khau: if they were to do new construction along like, if they like, let's say a developer buys a block. 292 00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:17.950 Evan Corrigan: Yeah, let's say they buy a whole block and like, or something those lines in front of their their 293 00:36:18.220 --> 00:36:26.700 Evan Corrigan: things on the right of way. Don't have anything to do with their property 294 00:36:26.850 --> 00:36:29.980 robertthibodeau: properties in the back. 295 00:36:30.160 --> 00:36:34.430 Evan Corrigan: Okay. So those those would be the ones that we're talking about undergrounding. Then 296 00:36:34.530 --> 00:36:35.710 Jeff Khau: it is. 297 00:36:35.780 --> 00:36:42.790 Jeff Khau: Yeah. But if we were talking about the ones that are along linkedin, then we would have to get to buy in from the property owners 298 00:36:42.900 --> 00:36:45.390 Jeff Khau: whose power is being fed from those lines. 299 00:36:46.370 --> 00:36:52.460 Evan Corrigan: Really, I wants to. I think Jim has something to say, James, get something to say. Yeah. 300 00:36:53.310 --> 00:37:09.390 jim murez: So, Jeff, you're new to this game, I suspect; but back in 1,963 la dwp and sacramento dwp. Both were opted out of the State, law that said that all utility companies had to underground one of their utilities every year. 301 00:37:09.810 --> 00:37:22.320 jim murez: and it was the the concept was. It was a 100 year process they were supposed to use their net profits, but because L. A. Dwp. And Sacramento Dwp. Are both part of the municipalities; that the only 2 in the state that are. 302 00:37:22.730 --> 00:37:31.930 jim murez: we haven't gotten any, so Dwp is telling you. Oh, sure, if you want to use private funding outside of our budget, you can. 303 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:36.090 jim murez: But we're not going to use our budget because we don't have to 304 00:37:36.230 --> 00:37:41.040 Jeff Khau: right. That's exactly what 305 00:37:42.340 --> 00:37:44.900 jim murez: I don't know if you've noticed. But I have. 306 00:37:45.150 --> 00:37:48.390 jim murez: You know, as we continue to go through time. 307 00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:56.820 jim murez: not only does it become it much more expensive, exponentially more expensive to do things like underground utilities. 308 00:37:56.870 --> 00:38:00.320 jim murez: but in sequence, or in parallel to that. 309 00:38:00.570 --> 00:38:04.090 jim murez: We're also having a lot of new utilities added to the bowl. 310 00:38:04.110 --> 00:38:28.830 jim murez: And if you haven't noticed, there's a tremendous number of fiber optic cables being put on to the lower portion of the polls. And again, those are our transmission lines that are being taken to other communities, so the ones that they're talking about on Lincoln Boulevard. Everything's going to the community of Santa Monica up Lincoln Boulevard. There's huge transmission 311 00:38:28.830 --> 00:38:37.670 jim murez: undergrounding those is now going to be a whole other level of expense for anybody that would try to do it locally 312 00:38:37.830 --> 00:38:40.250 Jeff Khau: in the model that they gave you. 313 00:38:40.490 --> 00:38:49.150 jim murez: and that's really that needs to change. I've contacted Ben Allen's office up at the State level to see what we can do about 314 00:38:49.450 --> 00:38:52.720 jim murez: dismantling that, because clearly 315 00:38:53.030 --> 00:39:12.340 jim murez: there are other issues with with the not having dwp underground utilities that occur in high fire zone areas which the Council woman's also involved in, and having power wires come down and dwp doesn't want to do anything with them. And so that's one place that, you know. If we could break this. 316 00:39:12.340 --> 00:39:16.470 jim murez: this, this this thing that's been going on for decades. 317 00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:19.150 jim murez: Maybe we could actually move forward with it. 318 00:39:20.180 --> 00:39:36.680 Jeff Khau: You know I I agree with you, Jim. I you know, in the interest of saving time in this meeting, i'm happy to invite, carry, or to from Dwp to come to this meeting and kind of give. Give you guys the spiel about undergrounding the utility lines, so that you could hear from the horse's mouth. 319 00:39:36.680 --> 00:39:49.760 Jeff Khau: I but I totally side with what you're saying. And he and we did talk about the the undergrounding of the of the Brentwood Palace area because of high severity zone, a high security fire zones, and he had a response to that 320 00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:52.080 Jeff Khau: to as well. 321 00:39:52.350 --> 00:40:02.150 Jeff Khau: So I I'll let him speak for that. But basically, you know you, you got to just a bit, or you you You hit it on mail when you said 322 00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:10.740 Jeff Khau: that, you know Dwp is just saying we don't have to pay for this. So we won't, and we're gonna make the processes as well as strenuous as possible for you guys to do it. 323 00:40:10.870 --> 00:40:12.910 Jeff Khau: and you know I 324 00:40:13.450 --> 00:40:30.630 Jeff Khau: I guess they it's their money so they can do whatever they want with it. But I you know I I want. I want to be able to get Carrie to come to this meeting, and he said he'd be happy to. So let's let's talk offline Robert to kind of figure that out, and and see if we can get duty at the Dwp. At the next meeting 325 00:40:30.970 --> 00:40:36.840 robertthibodeau: sounds great and regardless. This has been very informative, and 326 00:40:37.040 --> 00:40:45.820 robertthibodeau: you know you gotta start somewhere, and i'd put in some effort, even if I run into a brick wall. I think it's worth the conversation, and not just 327 00:40:46.560 --> 00:40:48.740 robertthibodeau: not just not trying. So. 328 00:40:50.530 --> 00:40:53.740 Evan Corrigan: Robert, I I have a question for Allison if I can. 329 00:40:54.530 --> 00:40:55.600 Allison Queen: Oh, sure. 330 00:40:58.420 --> 00:41:07.280 jim murez: Allison. By the way, i'm Jim here as i'm present in the Neighborhood Council. I can't stop that in the background, but it'll stop in a Sec. 331 00:41:07.820 --> 00:41:24.720 jim murez: I have a question for you that has to do with the Culver Boulevard overpass that's being proposed by Caltrans across Lincoln, and I'm wondering if if Somehow, in that discussion Venice can have a a voice in the conversation, because 332 00:41:24.820 --> 00:41:28.500 jim murez: when they change the intersection. 333 00:41:28.700 --> 00:41:34.060 jim murez: or or I should say, when they change the the the 334 00:41:36.290 --> 00:41:50.310 jim murez: the number of lanes that are on Lincoln from what's there today, which I believe is 5 lanes. and they widen the bridge, as I understand it from having gone to the meeting that they're planning on taking it up to 11 lanes like it is at Jefferson and Lincoln. 335 00:41:50.530 --> 00:41:53.110 Allison Queen: The traffic bottleneck 336 00:41:53.310 --> 00:42:01.210 jim murez: is really going to have a tremendous impact on benefits by the time it gets to to Washington at Lincoln. 337 00:42:01.430 --> 00:42:19.510 jim murez: And and that's truly the end. I mean that that is the point where you can no longer continue to widen the road without doing imminent domain to a lot of properties. And so i'm wondering how we can become part of that mix in conversation about what can be done to mitigate 338 00:42:19.510 --> 00:42:34.350 jim murez: the adverse effects that are going to occur because of the widening of that bridge because of the moving of the bottleneck closer to Venice. It's clearly going to have a lot of impact. And i'm wondering, you know, like other cities, like the Santa Monica, for instance, where the the 10 339 00:42:34.350 --> 00:42:57.780 jim murez: terminates in Santa Monica, they have overhead signage that says, you know. Take this other road, because there will be less traffic. Or or maybe there's some way that that parking considerations could be made at the end of the 90 free way for visitors serving so we could move people into Venice, perhaps on weekends or or tourism periods where where, you know, they could come in through mass, modal transportation 340 00:42:57.780 --> 00:43:06.730 jim murez: rather than individual cars. So I just want to get part of that become part of the conversation, so we can have a voice, and what what might be done to help mitigate. 341 00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:07.520 jim murez: You know 342 00:43:07.730 --> 00:43:18.150 jim murez: the improvements that Caltrans wants to make on on Lincoln Boulevard. 343 00:43:20.050 --> 00:43:30.170 Allison Queen: or if you want my my name, it's it's James Meres last name is spelled M. You are Ec. 344 00:43:30.390 --> 00:43:32.130 jim murez: Venice, Nc. 345 00:43:32.200 --> 00:43:41.510 Allison Queen: Dennis nt got. Oh, I have you right here. Yeah, yeah, I'm usually copied on, You know. Okay, Robert's good 346 00:43:41.540 --> 00:43:51.370 robertthibodeau: try and always give you. Keep your copyright. I'll be quiet and sit in the background. Thank you. So welcome. I just shot you an email, and I I hate to do this to you, but 347 00:43:51.380 --> 00:44:04.060 Allison Queen: I always want everything in writing. I sent you an email. Can you put it in writing for me. I'm going to connect you with the the the engineer that's in charge of that project. 348 00:44:04.720 --> 00:44:17.980 Allison Queen: and that way you can be privy, and you could be part of the conversation when they have meetings about it. 349 00:44:18.180 --> 00:44:27.380 Allison Queen: Last thing that I wanted to share with you is that we have our huge 10 day statewide call to action that's coming up. 350 00:44:27.580 --> 00:44:35.550 Allison Queen: I don't think Venice has signed up yet. It's called clean California Community days. It's from our governor. 351 00:44:35.610 --> 00:44:46.010 Allison Queen: and for 10 days between March, 17 and March 20, seventh. We're asking every Californian to pick up litter or plant a tree in their communities. 352 00:44:46.080 --> 00:44:52.400 Allison Queen: It could be as small as picking up litter in front of your home or in front of your condo complex, or 353 00:44:53.110 --> 00:44:56.660 Allison Queen: you know. awesome. Yeah. So 354 00:44:56.730 --> 00:45:03.090 Allison Queen: I sent that information. I think I sent it to you, Robert and Evan and I. 355 00:45:03.100 --> 00:45:08.030 Allison Queen: Yeah. So if that's something that you guys are interested in getting involved in 356 00:45:08.330 --> 00:45:15.690 Allison Queen: again, we're going to give litter bags, litter, pickers, gloves, and I goggles 357 00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:24.090 Allison Queen: to any volunteers community volunteers that are interested in picking up litter between March 17 and the 20 seventh. 358 00:45:24.790 --> 00:45:25.750 Allison Queen: All right. 359 00:45:25.870 --> 00:45:40.150 Allison Queen: We'll try and organize something on that 360 00:45:40.860 --> 00:45:47.650 Allison Queen: undergrounding is already being handled. But then, also Jim was talking about. 361 00:45:49.050 --> 00:45:52.180 Allison Queen: I forget what Jim was talking about. 362 00:45:52.220 --> 00:45:57.220 robertthibodeau: He was talking about the bridge, the upcoming 363 00:45:57.310 --> 00:46:02.960 Allison Queen: that's over here, and how that's going to. Yeah, and how that's going to. 364 00:46:03.300 --> 00:46:09.390 Allison Queen: Yeah, Jim, if you could send me an email and put that all in there. I'll make sure that it gets handled. Okay. 365 00:46:09.910 --> 00:46:14.490 robertthibodeau: Do we have any update on the Bus Lane thing to of when that's going to happen. 366 00:46:14.660 --> 00:46:20.400 robertthibodeau: Yeah. 367 00:46:20.730 --> 00:46:35.700 robertthibodeau: it's okay to send me several emails and ask several questions. I'll make sure that they're all answered for you guys. Okay? 368 00:46:35.750 --> 00:46:36.340 Allison Queen: Oh. 369 00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:44.740 Evan Corrigan: so yeah, we had. I don't know, Robert. If you think we should go through that 370 00:46:44.790 --> 00:46:46.820 Evan Corrigan: screening plan from last year. 371 00:46:48.130 --> 00:46:52.840 robertthibodeau: I think we've got Jeff on here, and it's nice to have his here for a second. You can. 372 00:46:52.900 --> 00:46:59.720 robertthibodeau: you know again, if we could keep it relatively sure efficient, you know. I think it would be good for him to see 373 00:46:59.940 --> 00:47:08.910 Evan Corrigan: Totally so. you know. Obviously the utilities are a big thing that prevent large trees from being planted on Lincoln. 374 00:47:11.310 --> 00:47:17.990 Evan Corrigan: you know, that could take 2030 years as we, as we found out. So in the meantime. 375 00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:20.650 Evan Corrigan: you know, last last year the the 376 00:47:20.860 --> 00:47:24.740 Evan Corrigan: Transportation Committee got together in regards to the 377 00:47:24.850 --> 00:47:31.630 Evan Corrigan: relinquishment of Lincoln, from Caltrans to the city. and thinking about. 378 00:47:32.130 --> 00:47:41.060 Evan Corrigan: You know where more cohesive landscaping go along Lincoln, you know, as Robert mentioned, a lot of those tree wells are. 379 00:47:41.350 --> 00:47:46.770 Evan Corrigan: you know, tired and filled in, and and trees have been taken out by cars. 380 00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:52.370 Evan Corrigan: So this is a little inventory of that one mile stretch of Lincoln fast forward. 381 00:47:52.690 --> 00:47:56.140 Evan Corrigan: and all the places that could fit 382 00:47:57.530 --> 00:48:01.100 Evan Corrigan: trees that are just empty sidewalk currently. 383 00:48:03.170 --> 00:48:08.050 Evan Corrigan: And this is down the whole. That whole mile stretch from pretty much rose to Venice 384 00:48:08.310 --> 00:48:09.490 Evan Corrigan: Boulevard. 385 00:48:11.650 --> 00:48:16.670 Jeff Khau: Yeah, I think it looks great. You know I used to be the planner for the Lincoln CEO, and 386 00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:28.760 Jeff Khau: that was really focused on the private property, like Lining Lincoln along both sides. But you know now that now that I'm in the Council Office. I'm kind of thinking about linking the whole picture, and, you know, working with Vo on 387 00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:33.650 Jeff Khau: right right away issues. And so this is something that definitely 388 00:48:33.900 --> 00:48:40.170 Jeff Khau: we want to bring into the conversation because the lack of tree wall space. 389 00:48:41.080 --> 00:48:48.450 Jeff Khau: you know you. You you make a good point with, in fact that you know can't have better trees because it's like a fuel space. And 390 00:48:48.600 --> 00:48:51.180 Jeff Khau: I think the first thing is to plan for that room 391 00:48:52.540 --> 00:48:58.800 Jeff Khau: which involves looking at La Mob, the mobility 2,035 plan to see 392 00:48:59.140 --> 00:49:05.130 Jeff Khau: you know how wide actually the sidewalks are are going to be. Our are supposed to be along Lincoln. 393 00:49:05.290 --> 00:49:13.430 Jeff Khau: and then kind of backing into the tree wells from from that designation. Does that make sense? So 394 00:49:14.430 --> 00:49:18.470 Evan Corrigan: you worked on the cdo, I think, from 2,009, or 395 00:49:18.580 --> 00:49:32.420 Jeff Khau: I was doing up permits for the Cdo, so I didn't write the cdo. But as projects going along, Link and I was reviewing for compliance with CEO, so I, and the kind of like the overall vision of making it more 396 00:49:32.500 --> 00:49:44.360 Jeff Khau: more pedestrian, friendly, removing like the auto uses, and removing like the you know, the unsightly stuff, and and and making it into a boulevard that people actually want to walk on long. So 397 00:49:44.510 --> 00:49:53.320 Evan Corrigan: I understand the long-term vision of it, and this kind of feeds into it the kind of the beautification of Lincoln. For Sure, yeah, that sounds great. 398 00:49:54.010 --> 00:49:55.530 robertthibodeau: Why not? You see. 399 00:49:55.630 --> 00:49:57.060 Evan Corrigan: Sorry. Go ahead, Robert. 400 00:49:57.460 --> 00:50:03.410 robertthibodeau: I was going to throw in a random one thing that's been oddly successful in Lincoln Boulevard is food trucks. 401 00:50:03.720 --> 00:50:10.480 robertthibodeau: It's funny because Lincoln, because Abbott Kenny so crowded Lincoln is actually 402 00:50:10.540 --> 00:50:21.410 robertthibodeau: get some street life because we have. Now we have quite a few food trucks. There's 2 in front of Ralph. There's one across the street. one in front of Ucla 403 00:50:21.620 --> 00:50:24.450 robertthibodeau: There's one down by the 404 00:50:24.670 --> 00:50:27.670 robertthibodeau: the team team center. 405 00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:35.410 robertthibodeau: There's you know, and it People come, people come! They're crowded, and it actually brings a lot of kind of walking street life 406 00:50:35.590 --> 00:50:39.760 robertthibodeau: along there. And so, anyways. 407 00:50:39.850 --> 00:50:46.330 robertthibodeau: totally random. Just thought it throw it out there, and, Evan, you had something else to say. 408 00:50:46.430 --> 00:50:50.670 Evan Corrigan: I agree with you. I mean the the Taco stands on the street. 409 00:50:50.970 --> 00:50:54.190 robertthibodeau: Some of the best things about Lincoln. 410 00:50:54.620 --> 00:51:03.620 Evan Corrigan: So in here, too, you have, You know we have these giant center turn lands running down the whole length of Lincoln Boulevard. 411 00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:09.770 Evan Corrigan: Obviously, I know there's a lot of traffic, and you don't want people trying to turn backing everything up. But 412 00:51:09.820 --> 00:51:16.570 Evan Corrigan: I think there I mean we together as a group and the Vnc. I think there is some room for. 413 00:51:18.160 --> 00:51:22.090 Evan Corrigan: you know some planted meetings in the center, possibly with 414 00:51:22.170 --> 00:51:27.410 Evan Corrigan: trees, are greenery. We've seen it in other parts of the city. So you still have. 415 00:51:27.520 --> 00:51:30.060 Evan Corrigan: I guess, left and turn lanes. But 416 00:51:30.180 --> 00:51:32.490 Evan Corrigan: it's kind of broken up. 417 00:51:32.970 --> 00:51:35.440 Evan Corrigan: and I can. I can send you to 418 00:51:35.890 --> 00:51:39.410 Evan Corrigan: the Santa Monica portion. Lincoln. They developed kind of a 419 00:51:39.740 --> 00:51:48.570 Evan Corrigan: a concept called the Link. and they had a really nice landscaping plan of showing how those center meetings can work. 420 00:51:49.830 --> 00:52:04.760 Jeff Khau: Yeah, that that looks. I think. You know, I'd be down for center medium and and more greenery for sure. I would actually encourage you guys to kind of rethink beautification along Lincoln, because, you know, we working realistically with what we have along Lincoln 421 00:52:05.060 --> 00:52:13.430 Jeff Khau: is is different than than being overly aspirational. And I guess what I you know I I would 422 00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:24.330 Jeff Khau: encourage you guys to turn to like the Arts district where it's like an asphalt jungle, and they've kind of beautified it in a way they haven't added a bunch of trees or anything, but they've just kind of made it into this kind of 423 00:52:24.380 --> 00:52:27.760 Jeff Khau: urban. this this urban feel of it, and. 424 00:52:27.820 --> 00:52:46.630 robertthibodeau: you know, not trying to make venison to the Arts district, but they definitely had to work with what they had, you know, which is a lot of concrete, a lot of asphalt. Which are you talking about in the Arts district? I'm sure you know i'm pretty familiar you talking around third or second, or where are you talking in the arts district? I'm talking about like the smaller streets, like off of Alameda 425 00:52:46.670 --> 00:52:50.530 robertthibodeau: like like like 426 00:52:50.690 --> 00:52:54.720 Jeff Khau: this this sort of like, like 427 00:52:55.290 --> 00:53:09.080 Jeff Khau: the the the ark, they have their, you know they they to to improve the street and make it pedestrian friendly, and include a lot of like public art, and what not, to make it visually interesting 428 00:53:09.080 --> 00:53:16.750 Jeff Khau: without having to go the whole tree route. But although they do have like vegetation in a in kind of like weird binds creeping on walls sort of way. 429 00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:25.930 Jeff Khau: but you know, let's, I I think. Let's start thinking out of the box. Because if you know this, that yeah, that's that's what I want to encourage you to. 430 00:53:26.090 --> 00:53:41.100 robertthibodeau: Yeah. And again, we we're just taking a stab at it, and certainly some money or grant money. I know Allison's off the phone, but or from the county, or something like that. 431 00:53:41.260 --> 00:53:46.840 robertthibodeau: because the problem is is the you know. If we could get a 432 00:53:47.310 --> 00:53:57.250 robertthibodeau: you know, even rooted in in improving what's there now, which is shouldn't that shouldn't be overly aspirational 433 00:53:57.520 --> 00:54:03.190 robertthibodeau: and getting a little dough back, because we do. You know all the business pay taxes, and 434 00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:08.800 robertthibodeau: you know it seems like every other city in the world has something left over for. For 435 00:54:09.160 --> 00:54:12.040 robertthibodeau: for this type of stuff 436 00:54:14.350 --> 00:54:18.140 robertthibodeau: I agree with you. Things can be done that are nice that are not not so. 437 00:54:18.300 --> 00:54:23.290 robertthibodeau: No involved involved. Sometimes, I mean even, you know, in 438 00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:29.230 robertthibodeau: again, you know, weeding and improving what's out there. But again, you know it. 439 00:54:30.380 --> 00:54:37.500 robertthibodeau: even with minor amounts of money. I think we could probably get get a buy in for that with the business owners 440 00:54:39.170 --> 00:54:42.660 robertthibodeau: and neighbors. Yeah, yeah. 441 00:54:43.030 --> 00:54:45.510 Evan Corrigan: yeah, Send your meetings aside 442 00:54:45.630 --> 00:54:49.480 Evan Corrigan: power lines aside, just getting those 443 00:54:49.670 --> 00:54:58.330 Evan Corrigan: trees on the sidewalks and working order. I know there's tons of community members who would, even, you know, volunteer to plant trees and things like that, and 444 00:54:59.990 --> 00:55:02.210 Evan Corrigan: you know, developing a cohesive 445 00:55:03.580 --> 00:55:07.210 Evan Corrigan: schedule, I guess of who's going to maintain those trees and things like that? 446 00:55:07.220 --> 00:55:10.810 Evan Corrigan: And who's going to enforce like you know, over trimming trees, or 447 00:55:12.200 --> 00:55:13.630 Evan Corrigan: you know trees that are 448 00:55:13.790 --> 00:55:17.740 Evan Corrigan: knocked down by cars or wind. I think there's 449 00:55:18.050 --> 00:55:27.190 Evan Corrigan: a a a tree that was knocked out by a car, and I I think it's still sitting in the tree tree in the sidewalk there a week later. 450 00:55:27.250 --> 00:55:36.870 Jeff Khau: Yeah, i'd love to get into like a conversation with the with, with every. I know people here in this room, and and Rudy to kind of talk through these kind of different strategies. Because 451 00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:41.230 Jeff Khau: Because, yeah, I mean, he would be the best person to kind of 452 00:55:41.240 --> 00:55:42.040 Jeff Khau: that was 453 00:55:42.450 --> 00:55:46.520 robertthibodeau: okay. That'd be great. So what do you think for next steps? Should we 454 00:55:47.100 --> 00:55:51.160 Evan Corrigan: set up another meeting in regards to the street trees. 455 00:55:51.330 --> 00:55:59.200 Jeff Khau: Yeah, and to see. Oh, you know what areas is more feasible in and kind of have a plan for doing this incrementally. 456 00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:03.890 Jeff Khau: but having a you know, a vision for the entire. You know the the entire 457 00:56:03.970 --> 00:56:06.220 Jeff Khau: stretch of that boulevard that you guys are looking at. 458 00:56:07.160 --> 00:56:16.450 robertthibodeau: Jim's got his hand up. He's waiting patiently, and then maybe maybe in Well, we have 3 participants also who have raised hands. I suspect one of those is Jim. 459 00:56:16.600 --> 00:56:21.690 robertthibodeau: We should let them say something, and then maybe we move to the next item. 460 00:56:22.040 --> 00:56:38.970 jim murez: You know, I really like Jeff's concept about rethinking this process. Maybe the idea really should be more along. What Evans proposing and forgetting about, I got from off my camera and and forgetting about proposing sidewalk trees Rather go for median trees. 461 00:56:38.970 --> 00:56:49.640 jim murez: because there are no overhead power wires at the Median and put in the meetings and put in the biggest bucket. Oh, excuse me the biggest truth you could possibly locate 462 00:56:49.720 --> 00:56:51.470 jim murez: down the center divider 463 00:56:51.490 --> 00:56:57.110 jim murez: because you would end up creating the same concept of a canopy. 464 00:56:57.390 --> 00:56:59.690 jim murez: and then you could do 465 00:56:59.860 --> 00:57:03.960 jim murez: more sidewalk art, and and other sorts of interesting 466 00:57:04.270 --> 00:57:13.600 jim murez: things that that perhaps would provide shade for for people walking on the sidewalk when the sun was not being blocked by the trees in the Median. 467 00:57:14.350 --> 00:57:15.810 jim murez: I think it's a great idea 468 00:57:17.240 --> 00:57:25.430 jim murez: you wouldn't have to deal with the overhead power. I would just be. The telephone calls would still be there, but it would definitely calm the street. Anyway, that was my 2 cents. Thank you. 469 00:57:28.810 --> 00:57:33.470 Evan Corrigan: Okay, yeah. And there's Grants. 470 00:57:33.590 --> 00:57:38.480 Evan Corrigan: We we could talk about this all night, but it'd be great. Maybe I can email you, and we can 471 00:57:38.530 --> 00:57:42.100 Evan Corrigan: set up a meeting to talk about this again, you know. Just Lincoln 472 00:57:42.210 --> 00:57:44.740 Evan Corrigan: this portion how we can make it better 473 00:57:46.690 --> 00:57:47.740 Evan Corrigan: for sure. 474 00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:54.610 Evan Corrigan: Thank you so much, Jeff. I'm, can I, Robert? Do you think I can maybe just open it up for 475 00:57:56.370 --> 00:58:01.560 Evan Corrigan: committee at board. Com Public comment. Jim, do we have to make a motion, or 476 00:58:02.720 --> 00:58:13.230 Evan Corrigan: I don't think it's a motion kind of vitamins. You don't. You don't have a motion on the agenda? I don't think so. I mean you possible motion. But did you want to make a motion to, to, to actually take some kind of action. 477 00:58:16.200 --> 00:58:25.470 Evan Corrigan: There's just a lot of hands up public hands that want to make a comment. No, do you just go ahead and take public. Okay? Okay, I'll if you want or not. It's up to you. 478 00:58:25.540 --> 00:58:26.300 Evan Corrigan: Let's do it. 479 00:58:27.860 --> 00:58:29.810 Evan Corrigan: Helen. Phone. 480 00:58:31.680 --> 00:58:34.200 Helen Fallon: I i'm sorry that you Have 481 00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:34.980 you 482 00:58:35.100 --> 00:58:39.440 Helen Fallon: person left Alice and Queen because I had a couple of questions. But 483 00:58:39.580 --> 00:58:49.830 Helen Fallon: before I speak I just wanted to say, I hope you forward the email from her to Christopher Lee, because if anyone is capable of organizing quickly a community clean up it's Chris, so. 484 00:58:49.990 --> 00:58:52.130 Helen Fallon: you know, Get in touch with him and let him know. 485 00:58:52.180 --> 00:59:05.880 Helen Fallon: So this opportunity that you are getting organized to clean up. I'd like to know just how the traffic flow will be improved with some of the suggestions your committee is proposing. Where do you expect the traffic to go? 486 00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:12.850 Helen Fallon: And has Lincoln bought Boulevard actually been turned over to the city. because we all know how well that worked out on Venice bull about it. 487 00:59:13.660 --> 00:59:20.080 Helen Fallon: and i'm hoping it's still under State control, because that's where i'd like to see it remain so. 488 00:59:20.890 --> 00:59:23.420 Helen Fallon: You know the answers to the question. I appreciate it. 489 00:59:25.550 --> 00:59:31.350 Evan Corrigan: It has it's being turned over from Caltrans to the city in the next few years. 490 00:59:31.670 --> 00:59:36.210 Evan Corrigan: and that's when they're doing the link and fast forward project with the bus 491 00:59:36.310 --> 00:59:38.650 Evan Corrigan: lanes during rush hour times. 492 00:59:41.290 --> 00:59:42.740 Helen Fallon: Is that a done? Deal? 493 00:59:44.950 --> 00:59:48.570 Evan Corrigan: Yeah. unless there's something I don't know, Jeff. 494 00:59:48.990 --> 00:59:51.390 Helen Fallon: So a bottom legacy. Okay, thanks. 495 00:59:54.410 --> 00:59:56.880 Evan Corrigan: All right, Robin. Meres 496 00:59:58.750 --> 01:00:02.300 Robin Murez: I so yeah, Speaking of bond and legacies, I 497 01:00:02.810 --> 01:00:21.280 Robin Murez: well, i'm going to ask this question because i'm not sure. But it seems that that Culver overpass was something that he pushed through without us having any, input and I wonder whether that is worth doing it all. Jim brought up reasons why it may not be a very well thought out concept. 498 01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:28.290 Robin Murez: and the amount of funds. I remember seeing I mean it's like a you know, multi 1 million dollar project. 499 01:00:28.670 --> 01:00:35.540 Robin Murez: I would love to rather see those funds go into making Lincoln Boulevard through Venice a much more 500 01:00:35.580 --> 01:00:37.080 Robin Murez: friendly 501 01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:54.580 Robin Murez: roadway. Okay. And then I want. So i'm questioning whether that call for overpass is a done deal, or if it could be rethought then i'm wondering. Well, Evan, I think your design I've always thought it's fabulous, and that I would like to be leading With that I think 502 01:00:54.640 --> 01:00:59.930 Robin Murez: there's no understanding the value of having a tree canopy that would make that 503 01:01:00.190 --> 01:01:15.850 Robin Murez: roadway just far more pleasant we do have. There has been a wonderful beautification project gone on for some years of murals along that stretch of Lincoln that's been very successful, but there's just no understating the value of having 504 01:01:16.140 --> 01:01:21.500 Robin Murez: a can a tree canopy in the greenery? So i'm wondering also regarding the 505 01:01:21.600 --> 01:01:36.770 Robin Murez: undergrounding of the power lines. Has anybody looked into who the end users are? I feel like it's typical that we'd be told that. Oh, it can't be done, because, you know, we don't have private entities who we could 506 01:01:36.790 --> 01:01:39.430 Robin Murez: turn it over to, but who actually 507 01:01:40.210 --> 01:01:48.010 Robin Murez: are those giant power lines that make all that noise and that are hideous all along our stretch of Lincoln 508 01:01:48.140 --> 01:02:01.160 Robin Murez: who are the end users of it. Perhaps we need to look into that. If somebody could look into that from your committee, I think that would be really worthwhile. Maybe it's not an impossibility, you know, to just accept the fact that 509 01:02:01.410 --> 01:02:15.160 Robin Murez: it is. Oh, i'm with, you know. Robert also said, let's not just accept that. But I think maybe the real important question there is: Who are those end users? Can we push to have them pick up the cost? 510 01:02:15.500 --> 01:02:20.530 Robin Murez: So that's all I think you guys are doing great stuff and thanks, Jeff, for being here. But 511 01:02:22.810 --> 01:02:30.720 Evan Corrigan: yeah, I think we can. Jeff mentioned bringing somebody from Dwp to the meeting, and we could kind of figure out who those end users are. 512 01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:35.610 Evan Corrigan: That'd be great number ending in 6 9 0. 513 01:02:38.920 --> 01:02:42.710 1310****690: Yes. yes, good evening. This is Yolanda. 514 01:02:44.280 --> 01:03:09.180 1310****690: Can you hear me? Yes. okay, good. I don't want to spoil your party, but I wish we we stick to common on the agenda. It's because you're making it a long meeting. Everything sounds interested, but I think we can move on to what is really on the agenda, and I want to report back this Saturday there was a meeting for all neighborhood councils on the Department of water and Power. 515 01:03:09.370 --> 01:03:10.870 Over 800 516 01:03:12.200 --> 01:03:15.950 1310****690: trees fell inside the city of Los Angeles. 517 01:03:16.140 --> 01:03:21.530 and One of the persons that spoke on this issue was Brian Wilbur. 518 01:03:21.720 --> 01:03:31.990 1310****690: and I wanted to see it. Maybe Allison stayed on, so maybe we can have them come to do a presentation, because due to the 519 01:03:32.300 --> 01:03:36.160 the the unexpected weather that we have had. 520 01:03:36.200 --> 01:03:38.280 1310****690: They're really looking into 521 01:03:38.290 --> 01:03:47.660 the tree plantation of the trees. They're looking into the liabilities that they're going to be. The city is going to be facing, and 522 01:03:47.740 --> 01:04:03.490 1310****690: the trees that are on private property that fell onto power lines and knocked down big polls. So that is going to be coming up. And I was today I I 523 01:04:03.580 --> 01:04:20.310 1310****690: I wanted to get a hold of my dear friend, Jack Humpville, to see if we could get Mr. Brian Wilbur to come to and give us a presentation down in April and see what they're going to be changing? What have they 524 01:04:20.310 --> 01:04:33.180 mit ctl and analyzed? And what is coming up? Because due to the unprecedented weather that we have had, They're going to be changing a lot of things, and let's see to what extent the liability that the city is facing. Now, 250 525 01:04:33.200 --> 01:04:51.850 1310****690: is is going to affect us. So I just wanted to bring that, and it's Robert. If you want me to go ahead and get a hold of Mr. Well, I've already put it a to see if he can come, and maybe we can get Allison to come and do a presentation. That would be great. But I think we're in for a big surprise. 526 01:04:51.850 --> 01:05:11.870 1310****690: and oh, and one of the things that they that Mr. Brian Wilbur did bring up is that due to the unprecedented weather that we've had. that they're possibly going to be looking now into doing underground wiring. And but he didn't go into further discussion on that. But All of this is going to be coming up in the next 527 01:05:11.910 --> 01:05:17.200 1310****690: couple of weeks, and maybe couple of months, and they're going to be doing some changes on all of this. Thank you. 528 01:05:17.790 --> 01:05:18.370 We 529 01:05:18.740 --> 01:05:25.430 Evan Corrigan: thank you. I'll email you about that meeting to get more information. 530 01:05:26.240 --> 01:05:28.650 Evan Corrigan: Shawn: O'brien, and 531 01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:32.320 Evan Corrigan: to be the last public comment. 532 01:05:32.450 --> 01:05:33.720 Sean Obrien: Yeah, real quick. 533 01:05:33.790 --> 01:05:44.900 Sean Obrien: I don't understand why Lincoln Boulevard in Venice has to look like Hawthorne Boulevard in Hawthorne. I mean. 534 01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:55.210 Sean Obrien: you can see you can take a picture of both. and you could think that you're in the same place. you know. That's it. Thank you. 535 01:05:56.940 --> 01:05:57.920 Evan Corrigan: Thanks. 536 01:06:00.220 --> 01:06:02.070 Evan Corrigan: Okay. 537 01:06:03.900 --> 01:06:10.590 Evan Corrigan: So we could discuss Lincoln forever. Let's think on next steps on this that'd be great. 538 01:06:11.460 --> 01:06:15.590 Evan Corrigan: The other thing we we wanted to discuss with Jeff. 539 01:06:16.040 --> 01:06:25.200 Evan Corrigan: If you're still here. is traffic coming on the residential side of this is something that 540 01:06:25.420 --> 01:06:28.640 Evan Corrigan: a lot of community members have brought up over the last 541 01:06:29.210 --> 01:06:34.140 Evan Corrigan: 6 months or so. It was brought to us by a 542 01:06:34.180 --> 01:06:44.360 Evan Corrigan: community member, Daniel Zachs, who had the presentation of some ideas. kind of distilled those ideas down into a a presentation, and 543 01:06:44.680 --> 01:06:53.170 Evan Corrigan: the V. And C. Supported it the Ptc. Supported as well. So I could run through that. 544 01:06:55.330 --> 01:06:59.990 Evan Corrigan: I I think we have a meeting tomorrow about Abbott. Kenny: oh, that's still on. 545 01:07:00.600 --> 01:07:01.690 Jeff Khau: Yeah, I'm. 546 01:07:01.780 --> 01:07:02.630 Evan Corrigan: Okay. 547 01:07:03.450 --> 01:07:04.570 Evan Corrigan: Yeah. 548 01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:13.810 Evan Corrigan: yeah, I don't know how you wanna so we're gonna discuss how it can you tomorrow with Jeff. Robert? I think it's Friday. You got to move to. 549 01:07:13.910 --> 01:07:14.790 Jeff Khau: Okay. 550 01:07:15.130 --> 01:07:20.280 Evan Corrigan: But you know, we have those community members here who might 551 01:07:20.370 --> 01:07:23.920 Evan Corrigan: want to chime in, or how do you want to do that? 552 01:07:24.200 --> 01:07:35.520 robertthibodeau: Yeah, I think the the major points are the improvements in the bike lanes, whether that be through visibility or actual protection. And then the 553 01:07:35.530 --> 01:07:36.720 robertthibodeau: the 554 01:07:36.890 --> 01:07:41.470 robertthibodeau: sort of lack of a sidewalk at Mar. Slash 555 01:07:43.350 --> 01:07:52.590 robertthibodeau: the they'd have improved it with the blinker, but that still remains a fairly tricky slash. Dangerous 556 01:07:52.980 --> 01:07:58.670 robertthibodeau: negotiation, which is busy as well. So you get a lot of cross cross traffic there. 557 01:08:00.040 --> 01:08:05.720 robertthibodeau: both pedestrian, pedestrian, bike and and vehicular. 558 01:08:06.070 --> 01:08:17.870 robertthibodeau: If you haven't driven it, it's it's worth a drive as and if you drive it at like school hours from people bringing their kids to school. It's a it's a it's it's it's challenging. 559 01:08:18.689 --> 01:08:19.760 Sean Obrien: Hi! Baby! 560 01:08:20.670 --> 01:08:23.200 robertthibodeau: Hey, somebody's got a mute. Please 561 01:08:26.220 --> 01:08:27.319 robertthibodeau: do it. Devin. 562 01:08:27.500 --> 01:08:38.939 Evan Corrigan: Yeah, I'm: reading everybody. So yeah, I mean, I could either run through the presentation, or maybe we could. Just I think tomorrow we're going to talk about next steps or Friday whenever a meeting is. But 563 01:08:41.160 --> 01:08:47.090 Evan Corrigan: would it be fine if those community members who join kind of voice, their concern. So 564 01:08:48.930 --> 01:08:53.220 robertthibodeau: you got 5 5 people with hands raised, and you could fly through your thing, and we could. 565 01:08:53.460 --> 01:08:58.470 Evan Corrigan: Yeah, sure. I mean just to summarize every meeting. We summarize this. But 566 01:09:01.060 --> 01:09:07.700 Evan Corrigan: you know there's 4 things that could happen on that section to reduce speeding and give a dedicated section for 567 01:09:07.819 --> 01:09:10.520 Evan Corrigan: bikers or scooterists. 568 01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:17.109 Evan Corrigan: and also filling in those big slip lanes to make 569 01:09:17.470 --> 01:09:24.130 Evan Corrigan: walking down advocacy to either the Marina side or the Venice side more feasible. 570 01:09:24.270 --> 01:09:32.800 Evan Corrigan: and then that crossw at Mars Street Who is talking? It's Robert. 571 01:09:36.250 --> 01:09:43.109 Evan Corrigan: Yeah. So all those things mentioned that cross like and mar low visibility. people don't feel safe. 572 01:09:45.390 --> 01:09:57.760 Evan Corrigan: We're coming up with kind of tactile ways to make it more visible. more noticeable to drivers and make pedestrians feel more safe. These are those giant slip lanes I was mentioning so kind of 573 01:09:57.950 --> 01:10:02.630 Evan Corrigan: crossing Washington way, and with Lawn Angela's place Cress more plays. 574 01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:06.130 Evan Corrigan: There's these big kind of funnels. 575 01:10:07.520 --> 01:10:08.680 Evan Corrigan: and 576 01:10:09.230 --> 01:10:13.800 Evan Corrigan: it encourages cars to go really fast into them or out of them. 577 01:10:13.910 --> 01:10:22.010 Evan Corrigan: And also it's a huge space for pedestrians to walk across without any like real protection or crosswalks or 578 01:10:22.160 --> 01:10:24.360 Evan Corrigan: physical protection. 579 01:10:25.250 --> 01:10:32.290 Evan Corrigan: So filling those in, you know. Talk to La. It could be painting now, but it's in the future. Maybe those can be planters. 580 01:10:34.290 --> 01:10:48.620 Evan Corrigan: the the the Crosswalk Mar Street so talked about this once. You cross that crosswalk at Mar Street. There's no sidewalk on Mars Street. 581 01:10:49.100 --> 01:10:50.460 Evan Corrigan: So. 582 01:10:50.610 --> 01:10:55.220 Evan Corrigan: looking into adding a sidewalk there, there's actually a right way 583 01:10:55.410 --> 01:10:57.310 Evan Corrigan: with some utilities in it. 584 01:10:58.350 --> 01:11:08.490 Evan Corrigan: That's something we could discuss. and the last thing credit dedicated by claims. So the current with of Albuquerque in that portion is about 50 feet. 585 01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:16.740 Evan Corrigan: So thinking about restriping it, this is how it currently exists. Thinking about how we could actually fit in buffered by claims. 586 01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:19.260 Evan Corrigan: Maybe it's. 587 01:11:19.510 --> 01:11:28.280 Evan Corrigan: you know, removing the center Turn lane in spots for narrowing the the existing land with to a fit in a bike Lane. 588 01:11:29.420 --> 01:11:31.400 Evan Corrigan: and that's the I 589 01:11:31.880 --> 01:11:45.400 Evan Corrigan: just run through it super fast, because I know we'll talk about it on Friday, but just wanted to open up to public comment. If anybody has any. Does that sound good, Robert? 590 01:11:46.980 --> 01:12:01.930 robertthibodeau: Yeah, we've got Daniel Shawn, and there was a lady. Theresa Theresa, and it looks like Helen's got her hand up. Maybe you could bear with us for a second, Jeff, and 591 01:12:02.110 --> 01:12:10.720 robertthibodeau: and then we can move. Move on from this one, too, because I I don't expect there to be any sort of motion tonight, but it'd be nice to hear what they have to say. 592 01:12:11.820 --> 01:12:12.900 Evan Corrigan: Daniel. 593 01:12:14.460 --> 01:12:16.900 robertthibodeau: Hi, Can you hear me? Yeah. 594 01:12:17.390 --> 01:12:26.110 dzx@posteo.net: Hi, Jeff, Thank you for coming to the meeting and thank you for letting me speak. Yeah, I I brought this issue back in April 595 01:12:26.190 --> 01:12:28.750 dzx@posteo.net: 2,022 596 01:12:29.110 --> 01:12:30.830 dzx@posteo.net: Abbott Kenny. 597 01:12:30.950 --> 01:12:36.170 dzx@posteo.net: from Main Street to Venice is filled with retail, and 598 01:12:36.500 --> 01:12:52.000 dzx@posteo.net: there are some cross a couple of crosswalks there. I think more, but this issue has been specifically between Venice and Washington, and people drive Just the bigger picture is. People feel unsafe. 599 01:12:52.000 --> 01:13:08.920 dzx@posteo.net: So, starting from that point, and then thinking about where we are in Venice, and that this is a tourist destination. There's a lot of people that walk and ride bikes. We're sort of like the capital of la as far as different conveyances all over the place, and so we should feel safe 600 01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:20.030 dzx@posteo.net: on this street, and it's, and it's the priority shouldn't be the cars. And so, you know, I think it's gonna take some urban planners engineers to see this. These are our attempts that you know. 601 01:13:20.070 --> 01:13:29.900 dzx@posteo.net: Allay people. You know. How do we? How do we fix this? But the big picture is, and then it gets to the details. Is P. You know these cars. If the speed limits 30. 602 01:13:30.010 --> 01:13:35.720 dzx@posteo.net: The blue, big blue bus drives 45, 50 motorcycles. Try 60 603 01:13:35.740 --> 01:14:03.940 dzx@posteo.net: people do circles, you know. People are driving way too fast on the street. And so you know from there. How do we slow them down? And then how do we feel safe walking, riding our bikes? I mean, there's just been such an improvement in technology to get around now, but people are dodging cars and running across the massive slip lanes on advocating it just doesn't fit the street doesn't match where we 604 01:14:03.940 --> 01:14:04.760 dzx@posteo.net: live. 605 01:14:04.780 --> 01:14:18.660 dzx@posteo.net: So that's all I want to say. I'm really happy that you're meeting with Robert and Evan. It'd be great to join that meeting. I don't, if that's possible that we can talk about that off out of here. But thank you. Yeah, I appreciate it. 606 01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:24.300 Evan Corrigan: Thanks, Daniel 607 01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:27.820 Evan Corrigan: Yolanda. Your hand is still up. 608 01:14:31.400 --> 01:14:33.060 Evan Corrigan: Yolanda, did you? 609 01:14:33.220 --> 01:14:35.240 1310****690: Yes. good evening. 610 01:14:35.450 --> 01:14:41.310 1310****690: First. I'd like to know what meeting is going on tomorrow. Regarding this issue. 611 01:14:41.470 --> 01:14:44.940 1310****690: I don't think there's been the proper 612 01:14:48.980 --> 01:14:59.390 1310****690: communication to most of us that we are unaware of what's really planning down Abbott Kenny. We work on for 613 01:14:59.410 --> 01:15:00.360 1310****690: years. 614 01:15:00.410 --> 01:15:09.220 starting way back in 1,990, and Abbott kidney is a conditional use secondary highway. 615 01:15:09.500 --> 01:15:12.120 1310****690: and there are limits to its use. 616 01:15:12.380 --> 01:15:15.510 so that needs to be looked into. 617 01:15:15.530 --> 01:15:33.840 1310****690: but I've gone around because I knew that this meeting was coming up. I contacted my neighbors. They have no idea, and if I do recall that you said you had enough signatures to start going ahead with this plan. I've asked them if they've been approached, and i'm talking about 618 01:15:34.120 --> 01:15:48.700 1310****690: neighbors of mine that have property, phone property and live on Abbott Kenny, and this is all going to affect us. I wish it would be more open and and and outreach to the property owners 619 01:15:48.710 --> 01:15:57.020 to everybody, because I know by a fact that from where sorrows off is all the way down, most of them are all apartment buildings. 620 01:15:57.060 --> 01:16:12.330 1310****690: Except for a couple of houses. I have the original sign up sheet of what we worked on Abbott Kenny way back. Then i'm going to look for it, because I want to see that sheet that you claim you have, that you got signatures. 621 01:16:12.660 --> 01:16:30.080 1310****690: So I would be. I would appreciate you. Be more transparent. You approaches because I already seen small bumps, and it's going to block us from the cross section of what we have to alley ex alleys that we have starting between mine, which is the Alhambra Alley. 622 01:16:30.080 --> 01:16:36.750 the Bible Tabernacle back there. Because then you're going to be blocking our way into these alleys. Thank you. 623 01:16:42.320 --> 01:16:45.860 Evan Corrigan: Thank you. Robin. 624 01:16:48.300 --> 01:16:51.530 Robin Murez: I I just want to mention that 625 01:16:51.640 --> 01:17:10.880 Robin Murez: those islands what do you call the slip lanes? I again think. Let's lead with trees and greenery I put. I I had little grants from the Neighborhood Council to do a lot of the greening that hadn't ever been planted along Venice Boulevard, and it makes a world of difference. 626 01:17:10.940 --> 01:17:20.410 Robin Murez: And regarding liability of trees. The verdant Venice group had a speaker about tree trimming. 627 01:17:20.500 --> 01:17:22.430 Robin Murez: I think that it's something that 628 01:17:22.470 --> 01:17:42.350 Robin Murez: needs to be addressed to, to not have trees is completely contrary to a notion of having a livable community. We need trees, and at the same time people need to know how to trim trees, so that there aren't liability issues. So those are my comments. Thank you. 629 01:17:46.280 --> 01:17:49.780 Evan Corrigan: Let's see who's next Teresa. 630 01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:51.290 dzx@posteo.net: You guys 631 01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:56.210 Evan Corrigan: Can you hear me? 632 01:17:56.250 --> 01:18:05.910 Teresa Conrow (she,her): Okay? And I wanted to speak about the safety issue in particular. 633 01:18:06.240 --> 01:18:08.000 Teresa Conrow (she,her): The 634 01:18:08.320 --> 01:18:22.020 Teresa Conrow (she,her): it's the main thoroughfare to the beach across right where Mar street is where there is no sidewalk, there's not an adequate signage and lighting for the pedestrian walkway that's there. 635 01:18:22.020 --> 01:18:33.420 Teresa Conrow (she,her): So you practically get it every time you walk through and on other streets like Lincoln, I think, on sentinel. Now, there's actually an overhead with a yellow light on it that 636 01:18:33.500 --> 01:18:49.170 Teresa Conrow (she,her): you know the cars know to take seriously that there's a pedestrian walkway because of the way that Evan was saying. The street is curved, the cars just speed through there and then, not having any walkway on Mars Street, and no visibility for the cars on either side. 637 01:18:49.170 --> 01:19:00.470 Teresa Conrow (she,her): It's amazing that someone hasn't been killed there yet, but every time people walk across there. It's it's very frightening so, and we have had accidents, but no one has been killed 638 01:19:00.490 --> 01:19:14.850 Teresa Conrow (she,her): that I know. So it is urgent. We have been working on it for a while, and Daniel has been gathering people in the community to a very constructive process of working with the Venice Neighborhood Council on this. 639 01:19:14.930 --> 01:19:33.040 Teresa Conrow (she,her): and I think it would be really helpful to have Daniel in that meeting on Friday, because he is communicating with so many people on this issue, and so people look to him in the neighborhood as well as to the Venice Neighborhood Council folks. So if there's a way to get Daniel or 640 01:19:33.040 --> 01:19:50.390 Teresa Conrow (she,her): anyone you know from the community that lives right in that area. I think that's important. We want to make sure that it's a constructive process, and having as much communication open as possible, is really good for that. So you know, we have done the petition 641 01:19:50.400 --> 01:19:57.800 Teresa Conrow (she,her): which we worked with Venice Neighborhood Council to develop, and we want to continue to work tennis Neighborhood Council, and we don't want 642 01:19:57.910 --> 01:20:15.310 Teresa Conrow (she,her): to come up with something that's going to create a big let's say who you are, you know, back and forth about what we should do, and if we take it step by step, with as much inclusion as possible. So I would just urge you in particular to have Daniel at that meeting, if you don't want to have more than one person. 643 01:20:15.310 --> 01:20:29.890 Teresa Conrow (she,her): but he is the one that initiated it with Evan and Robert and the other folks that have been working on this. And again he's able to keep the communication, and everyone in the area knows to talk to Daniel about this issue. So I just think that 644 01:20:29.930 --> 01:20:41.890 Teresa Conrow (she,her): to not have him in the meeting and not have him directly involved it Doesn't: send the right message back to the neighborhood from the Bnc. That we want to really be closely working together with you on this. So 645 01:20:42.470 --> 01:20:54.290 Teresa Conrow (she,her): Thank you very much for all the work that's been done to date on this and just we hope that there's as much speed on tackling this process to get something done as soon as possible. 646 01:20:55.120 --> 01:20:56.230 Evan Corrigan: Thanks, Jason. 647 01:20:56.690 --> 01:21:01.380 Evan Corrigan: I I think I thought we were talking about it today, honestly, but 648 01:21:01.450 --> 01:21:04.610 Evan Corrigan: it looks like we're still on for Friday, I mean. I 649 01:21:04.690 --> 01:21:10.410 Evan Corrigan: be happy to have Daniel there. if for Jeff lid, too. 650 01:21:10.770 --> 01:21:17.310 robertthibodeau: I'd leave that up to Jeff. I mean. I don't think anything is is being done without 651 01:21:17.780 --> 01:21:22.590 robertthibodeau: consideration and transparency. I mean, we've 652 01:21:22.990 --> 01:21:29.200 robertthibodeau: We've had this on the Ptc. Multiple times. It's been advertised. 653 01:21:29.270 --> 01:21:34.750 robertthibodeau: and Daniel's done outreach. And if you you only want to be 654 01:21:35.190 --> 01:21:42.940 robertthibodeau: on the outreach. Now you know that's great. Let's make sure she's communicated to, and 655 01:21:43.500 --> 01:21:45.050 robertthibodeau: and 656 01:21:45.090 --> 01:21:53.710 robertthibodeau: you know again, I don't I this isn't going to happen overnight. So this is all something that's evolving and forming, and that's why we're here. 657 01:21:55.580 --> 01:22:00.720 robertthibodeau: We have Helen Fallon to me ask her to unmute. 658 01:22:03.550 --> 01:22:14.520 Helen Fallon: Yeah, in response to what you just said, Robert. You know these suggestions are these. You know this plan, Doesn't: just impact the immediately local people. It impacts other people 659 01:22:14.740 --> 01:22:18.180 Helen Fallon: the surrounding areas. It is a Major street. 660 01:22:18.330 --> 01:22:21.680 Helen Fallon: Get over to Washington Boulevard for many of us. 661 01:22:24.040 --> 01:22:37.570 Helen Fallon: I don't think this road is large enough for all these plans like protected bike lanes. And God forbid! We have what Bollards install. Those are the ugliest thing that have been ever imposed on our community 662 01:22:37.630 --> 01:22:39.060 Helen Fallon: enough with them. 663 01:22:39.280 --> 01:22:49.650 Helen Fallon: and I've driven this street for years, and I you know i'm I don't speed through it. I've never felt unsafe on the street, and I don't see that many pedestrians, for that matter. 664 01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:57.880 Helen Fallon: And you know all this car slowing, All it does is end up backing up the traffic. I mean. Selena knows how that works. It's worked really well and 665 01:22:58.020 --> 01:23:04.930 Helen Fallon: and more vista where they slow down all the traffic through the commercial area. And then there's all this traffic clogging 666 01:23:05.150 --> 01:23:09.110 Helen Fallon: that we don't need this, and it needs to be. It's not. You know 667 01:23:09.170 --> 01:23:19.980 Helen Fallon: the improvement needs to take everybody into consideration, and otherwise you just end up people randomly going from residential side streets, and I don't think it's what we want. It'll be more unsafe. 668 01:23:20.160 --> 01:23:21.990 Helen Fallon: So I am 669 01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:32.080 Helen Fallon: opposed to some of these ideas, because I think of putting a better cross walk in with better lighting and signage, and one of those emergency type prospects is a good idea. 670 01:23:32.120 --> 01:23:41.780 Helen Fallon: but some of these other concepts are just all part of that. Let's give road diets without letting anybody know about it in surprise. You're stuck with a nest. So 671 01:23:42.120 --> 01:23:46.460 Helen Fallon: I think it needs a lot more looking at. Thank you. 672 01:23:48.550 --> 01:23:52.980 Evan Corrigan: Yeah, I think these ideas are, you know, just about increasing safety. So. 673 01:23:53.230 --> 01:23:58.290 Evan Corrigan: pedestrians, do you feel comfortable? That's one of the main feedback we' from the community is 674 01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:03.400 Evan Corrigan: what sidewalks are for Evan and get the help them get the sidewalk they need. 675 01:24:03.900 --> 01:24:08.560 Evan Corrigan: Yeah, I mean, we're talking about the plane. Removal things like that. 676 01:24:09.160 --> 01:24:15.340 Evan Corrigan: No matter what people are gonna be biking down the street. And legally they're supposed to bike in the street. 677 01:24:15.470 --> 01:24:17.470 Evan Corrigan: So these plans are getting 678 01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:24.010 Evan Corrigan: cars to go at the posted speed limit of 30 miles an hour, and not you know, having. 679 01:24:24.420 --> 01:24:30.760 Evan Corrigan: you know, buses go 45 or cars go 60 or 70 when they can. 680 01:24:31.030 --> 01:24:37.550 Evan Corrigan: It's not slowing anything down or trying to slow anything down then what is already posted today. 681 01:24:38.920 --> 01:24:49.240 Helen Fallon: So to put up those slides where you you know they it registers your speed and start it forcing it. So it's a way to start. So I understand. Safety. 682 01:24:51.450 --> 01:24:54.610 Evan Corrigan: Yeah, Looking forward to discussing this for 683 01:25:02.180 --> 01:25:09.510 robertthibodeau: Okay. So who else do we have with hands up so we can keep moving on this down the road. 684 01:25:10.450 --> 01:25:13.370 Selena Inouye: I see Jim has his hand up to rest. 685 01:25:15.630 --> 01:25:17.090 robertthibodeau: Let's 686 01:25:18.410 --> 01:25:25.080 robertthibodeau: Helen. Can you put your hand down there? And Daniel? I don't know if yours is up from 4. 687 01:25:26.260 --> 01:25:29.400 robertthibodeau: Daniel is down. Helens is down. Okay, Jim. 688 01:25:32.320 --> 01:25:34.640 jim murez: I was just gonna mention that the 689 01:25:34.750 --> 01:25:46.910 jim murez: the slip lanes that that Evans been referring to and showed in his his visual. Those also used to exist at Maine and Abbey, Kenny and Hampton at Brooks Electric, and and 690 01:25:47.600 --> 01:25:53.020 jim murez: in when, when those were removed about 20 years ago. 691 01:25:53.080 --> 01:25:58.150 jim murez: the number of traffic incidents that occurred at the corner of Maine and Abbott Kenny 692 01:25:58.270 --> 01:26:02.810 jim murez: dropped radically from more than one per day 693 01:26:02.890 --> 01:26:08.290 jim murez: to almost never occurring at all in the and and in the past, where 694 01:26:08.300 --> 01:26:14.560 jim murez: those have been taken out in other parts of the community. Landscaping is a really good solution 695 01:26:14.580 --> 01:26:16.880 jim murez: to just create a raised island there 696 01:26:16.970 --> 01:26:19.380 Teresa Conrow (she,her): that that makes the traffic the 697 01:26:19.480 --> 01:26:24.520 jim murez: enter the intersection at a perpendicular angle rather than it a diagonal. 698 01:26:24.780 --> 01:26:37.270 jim murez: and and use the excess land for a small park. And I think that's what Robin was referring to. Where some of these these raised areas could be made into small parts. I think we have to to worry about 699 01:26:37.540 --> 01:26:52.010 jim murez: how the land is going to be used long term, because we have to also be concerned about them becoming encampments which happened with some of the raised islands on Venice Boulevard. but it definitely can improve traffic, safety, and 700 01:26:52.140 --> 01:26:57.920 jim murez: and and the overall visibility. You know the street making it a more visual, pleasant place to be. 701 01:26:58.730 --> 01:26:59.690 robertthibodeau: Thanks. 702 01:26:59.780 --> 01:27:07.400 robertthibodeau: So we have a call in at a 690, i'm going to ask. 703 01:27:07.650 --> 01:27:12.330 robertthibodeau: So then we're gonna lower your hand, Yolanda, and then we've got 704 01:27:12.570 --> 01:27:14.240 robertthibodeau: sean. 705 01:27:16.690 --> 01:27:20.710 robertthibodeau: Can you unmute? And I think that's the last one 706 01:27:21.880 --> 01:27:23.390 robertthibodeau: that's not missing somebody. 707 01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:28.010 robertthibodeau: Shawn is your hand up from before? Did you want to talk again? 708 01:27:30.380 --> 01:27:37.060 Sean Obrien: Oh, i'm sorry I just wanted to support Helen. She made a lot of good valid points, and that's all 709 01:27:38.570 --> 01:27:45.640 Sean Obrien: you know. And again, if we can, if we can incorporate more greenery the better. We're a tiny community. 710 01:27:45.820 --> 01:27:49.600 Sean Obrien: You all know that. and if we can make it special. 711 01:27:49.740 --> 01:27:54.830 Sean Obrien: we can. We can move forward with making it special. But you know 712 01:27:55.210 --> 01:28:01.910 Sean Obrien: oh, Helen said it better than I could. and I support her previous comment. Thank you. 713 01:28:02.460 --> 01:28:03.480 robertthibodeau: Thanks, Shawn. 714 01:28:04.340 --> 01:28:06.320 robertthibodeau: Okay. 715 01:28:07.370 --> 01:28:19.280 robertthibodeau: So I think if he still here Jeff got to hear kind of an overview of sort of the concerns, which is really what what we wanted here, and 716 01:28:19.770 --> 01:28:26.070 robertthibodeau: and everybody had a chance to say something. And you know this won't be the last 717 01:28:26.190 --> 01:28:31.160 robertthibodeau: time that we're meeting on this. So don't I I don't want people to think this is 718 01:28:31.280 --> 01:28:41.580 robertthibodeau: a done deal, or has formed in a particular way. People just brought up issues, and, as always, there's a lot of different opinions. 719 01:28:41.700 --> 01:28:47.100 robertthibodeau: and they all need to be considered and take the best ones. so 720 01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:56.590 robertthibodeau: maybe we can, because that we're not making a motion on this. Maybe we can move on to. We skipped 721 01:28:59.270 --> 01:29:00.480 robertthibodeau: 5. 722 01:29:00.740 --> 01:29:03.500 robertthibodeau: Well, 5 and 8 723 01:29:03.770 --> 01:29:10.180 robertthibodeau: we've got. So Josh is on the call to 8, which is the bike sharing. 724 01:29:11.910 --> 01:29:14.850 Evan Corrigan: Hey, Josh! Hey up! 725 01:29:16.060 --> 01:29:20.250 Josh Fogelson: I may well let me. I might be able to share my screen. 726 01:29:20.500 --> 01:29:23.960 robertthibodeau: Sure, let's see if we're going to make. Can we make them a host? 727 01:29:29.120 --> 01:29:33.990 jim murez: You don't need to make him a host. He can just share his screen. 728 01:29:34.330 --> 01:29:39.390 Josh Fogelson: Yeah, just a host disabled participants screen sharing. 729 01:29:39.420 --> 01:29:46.570 robertthibodeau: Yeah, Your participant. You should be able to share your screen. I'm: looking for you on here, and i'm having 730 01:29:46.950 --> 01:29:53.760 jim murez: Josh is a participant already. Josh: You see the do you see the green thing down at the bottom to share screen? 731 01:29:53.830 --> 01:29:58.180 Josh Fogelson: Yeah, it. It says host has disabled participants screen sharing. 732 01:29:58.250 --> 01:30:05.000 jim murez: Oh, Robert, do you want me to take back hosting and and let him share? Or do you know how to do that. 733 01:30:05.780 --> 01:30:10.330 robertthibodeau: I know how to do it, but I just don't see him. It's my problem. 734 01:30:10.900 --> 01:30:15.020 robertthibodeau: You you have to go. You have to go down to the share and say, multiple 735 01:30:15.050 --> 01:30:19.130 jim murez: panel is where it says, sharing on the bottom of your screen, because your host. 736 01:30:19.340 --> 01:30:23.060 robertthibodeau: it says, allow multiple participants to share 737 01:30:24.420 --> 01:30:25.850 robertthibodeau: share screen 738 01:30:26.270 --> 01:30:29.430 robertthibodeau: multiple panels simultaneously. 739 01:30:30.180 --> 01:30:32.120 robertthibodeau: All right. 740 01:30:32.180 --> 01:30:33.270 robertthibodeau: You got it. 741 01:30:33.740 --> 01:30:36.470 jim murez: Sorry. That's my bet. I should have done that at the beginning of the meeting. 742 01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:39.630 Josh Fogelson: Okay, let me. Can you guys see my screen? 743 01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:40.360 robertthibodeau: Yep. 744 01:30:40.720 --> 01:30:42.760 Josh Fogelson: Good. So 745 01:30:44.030 --> 01:30:49.910 Josh Fogelson: this is a map of bike share stations on the west side. 746 01:30:50.930 --> 01:31:04.390 Josh Fogelson: and specifically I guess the step back. I'm the bike share manager for the city of Los Angeles. and it's a partner program with Metro. So even though it's branded as Metro Bike share the city of La is a. 747 01:31:04.480 --> 01:31:07.390 Josh Fogelson: you know, a partner with Metro. 748 01:31:07.740 --> 01:31:18.450 Josh Fogelson: We currently have a built out system, but we do have 2 stations in storage that we are looking to site throughout the entire city. 749 01:31:18.740 --> 01:31:26.070 Josh Fogelson: and, as we have, you know, an active writing community in on Venice. 750 01:31:26.150 --> 01:31:29.770 Josh Fogelson: We were looking into, possibly citing the station 751 01:31:30.040 --> 01:31:46.120 Josh Fogelson: at Wall Grove in Venice. So that was the immediate purpose of me joining this call, but I also will be interested in hearing we don't have any current capital funding for expansion, but I would be interested. 752 01:31:46.130 --> 01:32:03.150 Josh Fogelson: and one, you know, meeting everybody virtually into hearing. You know what you guys on the committee at least think our kind of bike share priority, our bike share system priorities, and if there was unlimited money kind of where you'd want to see stations put. 753 01:32:03.210 --> 01:32:15.170 Josh Fogelson: but I think we could start with a specific location. So if you look, here's Wal Grove in Venice. across from the High School, and the reason we picked this location. 754 01:32:15.450 --> 01:32:19.510 Josh Fogelson: because there's actually a very large existing red curve. 755 01:32:22.020 --> 01:32:31.370 Josh Fogelson: So the station would actually just go get dropped right here. It would be, you know, in the public right away. 756 01:32:31.430 --> 01:32:35.750 Josh Fogelson: But there wouldn't be any loss of parking, and I think that was one of the reasons we were 757 01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:42.800 Josh Fogelson: excited for this spot, because it seems like a win-win, but would definitely like to hear everyone's feedback 758 01:32:43.060 --> 01:32:45.420 Josh Fogelson: and any questions You guys have 759 01:32:46.470 --> 01:32:49.080 Josh Fogelson: So that's my short presentation. 760 01:32:49.940 --> 01:32:52.260 robertthibodeau: Thanks, Josh 761 01:32:52.850 --> 01:33:05.260 robertthibodeau: Evan, do you think? Let's I mean, it seems a great idea. It's next to the High School, I mean it's Cross Street from the High School? But let's let's see if we've got a public 762 01:33:05.410 --> 01:33:07.620 robertthibodeau: public comment. 763 01:33:08.610 --> 01:33:10.830 Evan Corrigan: Yeah, sure. 764 01:33:11.160 --> 01:33:16.440 robertthibodeau: I don't see 2 participants raise their hand 765 01:33:16.510 --> 01:33:25.460 Evan Corrigan: comment on this location and any future Metro Bike locations you'd like to see. Actually, we got 3 here, so we've got 766 01:33:26.020 --> 01:33:34.440 robertthibodeau: Helen waited till the end last time. Let's do her first this time, and he asked to unmute. As to unmute 767 01:33:35.890 --> 01:33:38.680 robertthibodeau: Ellen, i'm trying to hit. As to unmute for you. 768 01:33:40.620 --> 01:33:43.860 robertthibodeau: Do you want to try it, Evan? Because for me it's not a 769 01:33:45.660 --> 01:33:47.930 Evan Corrigan: yeah, Alan, You can go ahead. And 770 01:33:48.030 --> 01:33:48.960 robertthibodeau: okay. 771 01:33:51.360 --> 01:34:00.540 Helen Fallon: yeah, before you put something over there on that red line. I think maybe you better do some traffic studies, because it's an awful lot of people who turn on that corner. 772 01:34:00.700 --> 01:34:06.660 Helen Fallon: and there's an awful lot of traffic that ends up there at Allgrove and Venice. It's a very busy intersection. 773 01:34:07.030 --> 01:34:11.460 Helen Fallon: and i'm not so sure that there's a real need for Mikes there. 774 01:34:14.350 --> 01:34:19.030 Helen Fallon: It doesn't quite make sense. But i'm work i'm really concerned about the impact on 775 01:34:19.140 --> 01:34:21.720 Helen Fallon: people who end up in that intersection. 776 01:34:21.770 --> 01:34:23.640 Helen Fallon: It's not a big intersection 777 01:34:23.690 --> 01:34:29.870 Helen Fallon: and traffic gets backed up. People are churning right running left. It's just. 778 01:34:30.130 --> 01:34:31.180 Helen Fallon: and so 779 01:34:31.690 --> 01:34:44.970 Helen Fallon: it could cause a you could be causing more problems and benefiting anybody Biking and I do disagree with your statement that there's lots of biking, I'm Dennis, for all right. There's very few people using those dedicated V. By those protected by claims. 780 01:34:45.030 --> 01:34:48.940 Helen Fallon: as Selena will probably testify, and she sees just what I see. 781 01:34:49.650 --> 01:34:54.520 Helen Fallon: So yeah, I think you need to take a closer look at that in reception. Thank you 782 01:34:58.470 --> 01:35:05.700 Helen Fallon: and I I would. I would mute myself. But your transcript thing is striving me insane, and I can't find any of my My. 783 01:35:05.860 --> 01:35:08.160 Evan Corrigan: I can meet you. Thanks, Helen 784 01:35:08.750 --> 01:35:11.770 Evan Corrigan: Shawn, or sorry Steve. 785 01:35:12.410 --> 01:35:15.230 Steve Bradbury: Thank you, Josh. I have a question for you. 786 01:35:15.300 --> 01:35:20.660 Steve Bradbury: Do you have any studies to show usage of the other 787 01:35:20.850 --> 01:35:35.190 Steve Bradbury: bike stations nearby? In other words, is there a. Besides, You've identified it because it's a good location because you got a red curve. Have you looked at the other bike stations nearby to determine that there is a need 788 01:35:35.360 --> 01:35:37.920 Steve Bradbury: for this, and how much it would be used 789 01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:45.350 Steve Bradbury: it. It seems like there might be areas where it's, maybe more necessary, because it's others that are not not nearby. 790 01:35:45.410 --> 01:35:47.430 Josh Fogelson: Yeah, we have. 791 01:35:47.780 --> 01:35:56.110 Josh Fogelson: you know, we track all checking in and checking out a bike set station. So we have live up to date data on station usage. 792 01:35:56.670 --> 01:36:10.190 Josh Fogelson: So, for example, the most use stations are stations along the vetted boardwalk, and those can generate up to 70 trips a day, while the least you stations 793 01:36:10.640 --> 01:36:17.840 Josh Fogelson: actually outside of Venice neighborhood, just in general, can even be as low as you know, one or 2 trips a day. 794 01:36:18.030 --> 01:36:24.430 Josh Fogelson: So this nations along that is Boulevard, or to pay on the station around, you know. 795 01:36:24.490 --> 01:36:29.430 Josh Fogelson: 7 or 8 trips a day, which system white is actually quite high. 796 01:36:31.030 --> 01:36:33.740 Josh Fogelson: so I would agree with your comment. 797 01:36:34.200 --> 01:36:51.470 Josh Fogelson: There's probably other locations that may generate more ridership, but could, for example, we site it on the beach. It would be requiring us going through the Coastal Commission, and I could be, you know, a 6 month, or even 12 month process. 798 01:36:51.470 --> 01:36:57.340 Josh Fogelson: Well, this State location we could actually drop in. you know, within a few weeks. 799 01:36:58.120 --> 01:37:14.540 Steve Bradbury: I mean, I guess i'm asking if it's if it's going to be used. It makes sense. It's not going to be used in there some other place within Venice, and I don't know where else within Venice they might be a a greater use case that's not right at the beach. So you don't have to deal with coastal. 800 01:37:14.560 --> 01:37:17.820 Steve Bradbury: Is there any locations worth considering that that's all? 801 01:37:17.970 --> 01:37:20.620 Josh Fogelson: Yeah, no, I appreciate the feedback. 802 01:37:21.750 --> 01:37:29.880 robertthibodeau: Can you show us again exactly which corner it is because my picture was pretty quick. Is it in the east corner? 803 01:37:30.180 --> 01:37:32.340 Josh Fogelson: Let me share my screen again. 804 01:37:33.490 --> 01:37:37.530 Josh Fogelson: So here is Venice going westbound. 805 01:37:38.250 --> 01:37:42.540 Josh Fogelson: and you can see it would be the north west corner. 806 01:37:43.310 --> 01:37:44.840 robertthibodeau: So the 807 01:37:44.970 --> 01:37:47.540 robertthibodeau: idea of of 808 01:37:50.620 --> 01:37:57.980 robertthibodeau: blocking the traffic off of Venice Boulevard on to Walgrove is actually not really accurate. There 809 01:37:57.990 --> 01:38:00.020 robertthibodeau: you might possibly 810 01:38:00.470 --> 01:38:10.990 robertthibodeau: slow down some right turning traffic. But to me that's on that intersection. That's not a that's not a high priority. 811 01:38:12.130 --> 01:38:17.900 Josh Fogelson: Yeah, the station would probably start here, and you know. Go to about here. 812 01:38:17.940 --> 01:38:20.130 robertthibodeau: Right? Let's still be in a 813 01:38:20.600 --> 01:38:22.510 Josh Fogelson: 1015 feet. 814 01:38:22.800 --> 01:38:26.770 Josh Fogelson: and I guess technically cars 815 01:38:27.150 --> 01:38:30.270 Josh Fogelson: making like you said a right turn. 816 01:38:30.510 --> 01:38:40.930 robertthibodeau: Most of the traffic there goes either straight or takes a left on to Venice Bowl garden heads east 817 01:38:41.300 --> 01:38:49.420 robertthibodeau: again. That's just from somebody who drives it a lot. But yeah, Robin, i'm sorry. Can I just has 1 one real quick question. Follow up with Josh. 818 01:38:49.510 --> 01:38:54.440 Steve Bradbury: Have you asked the people who live in those buildings 819 01:38:55.010 --> 01:39:01.920 Steve Bradbury: what they think? Do they think they would like to have it there, I mean, it seems like in a lot of cases decisions get made. 820 01:39:01.990 --> 01:39:12.020 Steve Bradbury: and I other than those who know to come to a meeting like this? Is, is anybody? Asked People in the buildings where you're showing right now on the screen if they 821 01:39:12.050 --> 01:39:15.720 Josh Fogelson: Yeah, so we do outreach to. 822 01:39:15.790 --> 01:39:18.810 Josh Fogelson: and we're gonna sign a station. We do outreach 823 01:39:18.900 --> 01:39:27.750 Josh Fogelson: to nearby property owners, and in this case, you know, we might not be able to enter the private building, but we would put. 824 01:39:27.950 --> 01:39:33.340 Josh Fogelson: you know, flyers at the door, and then a fly where we're gonna propose it. 825 01:39:33.860 --> 01:39:45.530 Josh Fogelson: This is just the first step to come to the Neighborhood Council, and we were asked by the Council district to get your guys feedback. So we, while we haven't actually 826 01:39:46.370 --> 01:39:49.610 Josh Fogelson: done outreach to the community, we will. 827 01:39:49.710 --> 01:39:54.210 Josh Fogelson: depending on, you know the feedback we here here and from the Council District 828 01:39:54.870 --> 01:39:57.200 Steve Bradbury: Council Office. Thank you. 829 01:39:57.240 --> 01:40:02.580 Josh Fogelson: Yeah. But I definitely agree with you. We wouldn't drop a station down there. 830 01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:08.070 Josh Fogelson: The property owner directly next to it is, you know, completely against it. 831 01:40:10.910 --> 01:40:17.610 robertthibodeau: We've got Jim's been waiting patiently, so why don't? We take Mr. Meres 832 01:40:19.550 --> 01:40:33.650 jim murez: So back about 5 years ago, when this program was started. I was chair of this committee. and and the 16 sites that are west of Lincoln. We're all brought to us, and we made comments about them. 833 01:40:33.690 --> 01:40:36.300 jim murez: including asking, Who is the ridership? 834 01:40:36.500 --> 01:40:49.570 jim murez: Was the ridership going to be? And the program was designed at the time it was supposed to be last mile. The concept was this was going to be a last mile solution to get people from the bus to their final destination. 835 01:40:49.760 --> 01:41:02.370 jim murez: Now you just confirmed to me that that's not necessarily how these bicycles are being used by saying that ocean front walk is the highest generating location. 836 01:41:02.590 --> 01:41:10.280 jim murez: I guess one of my big issues with that is because those bicycles are now being used as rental bicycles for tourism 837 01:41:10.810 --> 01:41:20.750 jim murez: that it's taking away from the local businesses, which objected tremendously at the time the program was originally introduced to Ellis, and if that's the case. 838 01:41:21.080 --> 01:41:39.620 jim murez: why are we continuing to push the program in places where we know it's definitely not serving what it was intended to do. Now, I personally know that back when my kids went to Venice High School, which was already 10 years ago. That red curve was so long and red was because that's where the bus stop was. 839 01:41:39.620 --> 01:41:42.620 jim murez: They've since moved it to the east side of Walgrove. 840 01:41:42.690 --> 01:41:51.530 jim murez: and maybe Dot needs to go back out and look at. Does that much red curve really still need to be there. and if not. 841 01:41:52.280 --> 01:42:04.470 jim murez: then we're not talking necessarily about not taking public parking off the street by putting the bike rack there. But but instead, we would be. Now, I think actually, that's probably a last mile solution. 842 01:42:04.480 --> 01:42:09.750 jim murez: That would be a good location for these bicycles, and I would really like to think about 843 01:42:09.940 --> 01:42:18.040 jim murez: looking at. What is the ridership data on the 16 stations that were put in with coastal development permits west of Lincoln. 844 01:42:18.210 --> 01:42:27.260 jim murez: and we were told that it was going to be a trial program, and that information would be brought back to us. That information is never been brought back. I've been on the Neighborhood council the entire time. 845 01:42:28.710 --> 01:42:33.510 jim murez: and at the time it took several dozen parking spaces off the street. 846 01:42:33.550 --> 01:42:46.360 jim murez: most notably perhaps, Rose and and Main Street. In front of the Rose Cafe. They took off 3 parking spaces there in a place where there's really no parking whatsoever in the community. 847 01:42:46.490 --> 01:42:53.930 jim murez: and and it's sort of surprising. It continues to be surprising to me how Metro can take off 848 01:42:53.950 --> 01:42:58.640 jim murez: 2 3 4 parking spaces on avid Kenny, and yet we can't get 849 01:42:58.850 --> 01:43:12.550 jim murez: the scooters to be able to occupy that same space Instead, they occupy the sidewalks. La do t has come in and painted special zones on the sidewalks, where we have tremendously limited sidewalk space. 850 01:43:12.590 --> 01:43:16.860 jim murez: and we tell people don't ride scooters on the sidewalk, yet they have to park them on the sidewalk 851 01:43:17.120 --> 01:43:25.650 jim murez: yet led or or Metro can come in and take out multiple parking spaces and claim we're serving this last mile 852 01:43:26.730 --> 01:43:31.280 jim murez: rider and in actuality it's the visitors who are using them. 853 01:43:31.380 --> 01:43:45.740 jim murez: and it's shutting down our local businesses that in the past it always serve that niche of the market. So yeah, I would like to hear back from you, Josh. I think you have a good program going, but I think that it would be nice if we could start fine tuning it more for Venice. 854 01:43:46.200 --> 01:43:47.020 jim murez: Thank you. 855 01:43:48.670 --> 01:43:50.610 Josh Fogelson: hey? Thanks for the feedback. 856 01:43:50.890 --> 01:43:56.490 Josh Fogelson: And yeah, I would. I would say your comments definitely support this location. 857 01:43:56.500 --> 01:44:00.600 Josh Fogelson: It's in the actual neighborhood, not along the beach board walk. 858 01:44:00.760 --> 01:44:17.420 Josh Fogelson: you know. Of course. there's bigger commentary on whether the community as a whole supports to converting that red curve to parking, or you know, having it as bike share. But currently as Red Curve is not serving anyone. 859 01:44:17.750 --> 01:44:21.260 robertthibodeau: But I do appreciate hearing your feedback. 860 01:44:21.420 --> 01:44:28.130 robertthibodeau: I think one more, Shawn, although I see 2 here. As to unmute. 861 01:44:30.750 --> 01:44:32.060 Sean Obrien: Yeah. 862 01:44:32.550 --> 01:44:36.340 Sean Obrien: I what I loved about the guys presentation 863 01:44:36.450 --> 01:44:38.290 Sean Obrien: and what he like 864 01:44:38.340 --> 01:44:42.090 Sean Obrien: describe our what he said His support was. 865 01:44:42.340 --> 01:44:46.570 Sean Obrien: is was business, our property owners. 866 01:44:46.960 --> 01:44:52.900 Sean Obrien: so that whole that whole intersection is. is 867 01:44:53.890 --> 01:45:01.620 Sean Obrien: is renters. So you reach out to a property owner. You didn't reach out to the renters. 868 01:45:01.660 --> 01:45:05.300 Sean Obrien: and those are the renters that will be directly affected. 869 01:45:05.560 --> 01:45:10.250 Sean Obrien: And so all i'm asking is, reach out to everybody. 870 01:45:10.490 --> 01:45:12.700 Sean Obrien: Reach out to the renters 871 01:45:12.830 --> 01:45:15.680 Sean Obrien: and see how they feel. 872 01:45:15.760 --> 01:45:21.960 Sean Obrien: because from what he said is Oh, it's not. 873 01:45:22.980 --> 01:45:26.250 Sean Obrien: It's not recommended by the community. Thank you. 874 01:45:28.220 --> 01:45:28.780 Okay. 875 01:45:30.630 --> 01:45:32.440 robertthibodeau: Okay, we got Mark 876 01:45:32.860 --> 01:45:38.250 robertthibodeau: hands up. I'm gonna ask you to allowed to talk. There you go. 877 01:45:38.610 --> 01:45:40.070 robertthibodeau: I think I got it, Mark. 878 01:45:40.640 --> 01:45:42.110 Mark Ryavec: Thanks. 879 01:45:43.640 --> 01:45:49.920 Mark Ryavec: Since Jim brought up other sites that for these bike corrals 880 01:45:49.970 --> 01:45:52.860 Mark Ryavec: I just wanted to ask Josh if you would. 881 01:45:54.410 --> 01:46:03.610 Mark Ryavec: We look at the the one that was put in the Bank of America on win word. and the the reason i'm asking that 882 01:46:03.810 --> 01:46:08.830 Mark Ryavec: is, that I don't. I don't know if there was any serious consultation with 883 01:46:09.450 --> 01:46:12.590 Mark Ryavec: the customers that are constantly 884 01:46:12.890 --> 01:46:19.390 Mark Ryavec: coming to the bank to use the atms. and there used to be 3 or 4 parking spaces. 885 01:46:19.610 --> 01:46:22.780 Mark Ryavec: and there was a very quick turnover. And then. 886 01:46:22.860 --> 01:46:25.920 Mark Ryavec: some years ago, they put in a very, very long 887 01:46:26.200 --> 01:46:29.750 Mark Ryavec: elongated by corral for these bikes. 888 01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:46.850 Mark Ryavec: and the end result was the requirement that all of these customers now would have to go in and get a ticket and then show the ticket when they leave, you know, in the Bank of America parking Lot. And it was a far better place for this around the corner 889 01:46:48.270 --> 01:46:49.730 Mark Ryavec: on Main Street 890 01:46:50.390 --> 01:46:56.290 Mark Ryavec: by near. I think it's a market. Yes 891 01:46:56.310 --> 01:47:04.720 Mark Ryavec: market just just north of Market I I I know there's a significant cost involved in moving 892 01:47:04.890 --> 01:47:08.120 Mark Ryavec: the you know, such a corral. 893 01:47:08.190 --> 01:47:12.200 Mark Ryavec: But I I just wanted to point out that this is a very poor 894 01:47:14.010 --> 01:47:17.640 Mark Ryavec: in my estimation as a customer of Bank of America. 895 01:47:17.660 --> 01:47:24.590 Mark Ryavec: of taking those highly used spaces right in front of the Atms and 896 01:47:24.690 --> 01:47:37.410 Mark Ryavec: putting them in a bike corral use when you could have just gone around the corner or block. and left those spaces for the customers and the very quick Turnover people 897 01:47:37.830 --> 01:47:42.950 Mark Ryavec: park there go to the ATM Lead Park. ATM Leap. 898 01:47:44.270 --> 01:47:45.980 Mark Ryavec: Just a thought for the future. 899 01:47:46.970 --> 01:47:49.710 Josh Fogelson: Great, Thank you. And can I ask? 900 01:47:50.320 --> 01:47:57.780 Josh Fogelson: Was it needed? I mean, I can look it up. But hopefully, you know. 901 01:47:57.920 --> 01:47:59.910 Josh Fogelson: Okay, great. Thank you. 902 01:48:00.270 --> 01:48:01.970 robertthibodeau: Selena 903 01:48:03.300 --> 01:48:13.480 Selena Inouye: Mark. I'm going to take your hand down there. But so, josh my my comment Isn't: so much about location, but it's about 904 01:48:14.400 --> 01:48:25.150 Selena Inouye: the fact that Bike share Isn't addressing the needs of people with disabilities that you still don't have bicycles that everyone can use. 905 01:48:25.270 --> 01:48:33.370 Selena Inouye: that there are no tricycles available for people who need the extra stability to be able to ride a bike. 906 01:48:33.780 --> 01:48:39.720 Selena Inouye: I think that this is an issue globally with a lot of these new 907 01:48:39.890 --> 01:48:42.290 Selena Inouye: modes with scooters, too. 908 01:48:43.720 --> 01:48:49.850 Selena Inouye: that there aren't any accessible options for people that would want to use them. 909 01:48:50.160 --> 01:49:04.370 Selena Inouye: And so I just what I just need to put that out there. I've mentioned it before, and it seems like this, and there's still nothing available for people who have disabilities who are older. 910 01:49:04.370 --> 01:49:15.750 Selena Inouye: There's nothing for us folks except to buy these bikes for ourselves, if that's what we want to do, because there's not anything available to rent, at least not from Metro. 911 01:49:15.860 --> 01:49:18.120 Selena Inouye: So just want to put that out there. 912 01:49:18.380 --> 01:49:19.230 robertthibodeau: Okay. 913 01:49:19.270 --> 01:49:21.860 robertthibodeau: we've got 914 01:49:22.270 --> 01:49:25.400 robertthibodeau: 2 more hands up. I'm gonna go. 915 01:49:25.550 --> 01:49:30.290 robertthibodeau: I think Yoli is at 690, alright. 916 01:49:30.450 --> 01:49:33.280 Josh Fogelson: and thanks, Elena, for your comment. 917 01:49:33.310 --> 01:49:45.020 Josh Fogelson: I don't think you know we probably won't ever be able to have enough accessible bikes in the system that will be as common as traditional bikes. But definitely, we should have an option 918 01:49:45.080 --> 01:49:53.680 Josh Fogelson: if it's not Metro bike share at least another government sponsored program for affordable accessible bike access. So I appreciate hearing that. 919 01:49:54.660 --> 01:50:00.620 robertthibodeau: and we've got. I believe it's Yolanda. 920 01:50:01.340 --> 01:50:13.230 1310****690: Yes, I have a couple of questions I happen to have I live here on Abukini in Venice. and I have 3 of them right now. That haven't been picked up in 3 days. 921 01:50:13.980 --> 01:50:22.120 1310****690: I've had to get out of my car sometimes, because people leave them wherever they please. They're not easy to move. 922 01:50:22.320 --> 01:50:24.840 They're heavy, at least for me right now. 923 01:50:24.920 --> 01:50:36.000 1310****690: It's a heavy item to get out of my car when I need to come into my property, and they leave them on the alley. Another problem we're having. 924 01:50:36.020 --> 01:50:40.100 because I see it constantly is that they are going the wrong way. 925 01:50:40.520 --> 01:50:42.190 1310****690: They come off canal. 926 01:50:42.220 --> 01:50:50.170 They turn in. They turn left, right there on the north side, coming down Venice Boulevard going against the traffic. 927 01:50:50.770 --> 01:51:01.920 1310****690: And another thing is, they're still riding on the on the sidewalks. I believe we've had 3 major big accidents where 2 people were killed because of them. 928 01:51:02.530 --> 01:51:09.100 1310****690: So I want to know. How often do you send out your your your people to pick them up. 929 01:51:09.170 --> 01:51:18.450 and I know that you go by monitoring them because you need to. You. You tend to find them. But how? What kind of a big crew do you have 930 01:51:18.550 --> 01:51:20.340 1310****690: to pick them up. Thank you. 931 01:51:23.320 --> 01:51:28.020 Josh Fogelson: Are you referring to scooters or Metro Bike? She 932 01:51:29.860 --> 01:51:31.280 1310****690: Metro by 2 933 01:51:34.280 --> 01:51:38.370 Josh Fogelson: people. Leave the bikes, not at the docks. They just leave them. 934 01:51:39.100 --> 01:51:46.070 1310****690: Yes, they leave them on. They leave them right where they please. They don't pick them up. Sometimes they're even left on the street. 935 01:51:46.180 --> 01:51:58.720 1310****690: One has to go and move them because it. You know that's the thing that you really need to look into. Yeah, definitely. So if you're a user and you don't do your bike. You could be fined up to $2,500 936 01:51:59.010 --> 01:52:08.670 Josh Fogelson: if the bike stall in so normally, most people bring them back to the docs. But if that is a problem it's good to hear. 937 01:52:09.180 --> 01:52:16.970 Josh Fogelson: and you know it. We do have a group that looks to recover bikes. If they aren't within the system. Still. 938 01:52:17.710 --> 01:52:20.160 Josh Fogelson: So thanks for that feedback. 939 01:52:25.040 --> 01:52:28.350 robertthibodeau: Okay, Evan, you beat me to it. So why don't you go? 940 01:52:32.150 --> 01:52:44.090 Evan Corrigan: So you you Josh, You picked this side. you know, based on usage. You You mentioned that Venice Boulevard had pretty good usage. 941 01:52:44.390 --> 01:52:47.770 Evan Corrigan: Was there any other sites that you looked at in Venice? 942 01:52:49.450 --> 01:52:53.690 Evan Corrigan: And I think that's where we could 943 01:52:54.530 --> 01:53:03.920 Josh Fogelson: open up the conversation, and maybe not even limited to tonight. Today, you know, if you guys have other meetings, you want to consult, you know. 944 01:53:03.930 --> 01:53:11.850 Josh Fogelson: as a panel, or whatever kind of procedures or outreach you do, and you come back with. You know a list of sites you are interested in. 945 01:53:11.970 --> 01:53:26.460 Josh Fogelson: It's not like. We necessarily have to move forward with this site, as of now, you know. Once again we don't have any capital funding or long term plans for expansion. We just have to 946 01:53:26.860 --> 01:53:39.740 Josh Fogelson: stations that are in storage currently that we are trying to site. So this one is based both on usage, but also hopefully on a win win for everyone where it's going in, not removing, parking. 947 01:53:39.990 --> 01:53:44.260 Josh Fogelson: going in in the spot that will be utilized. 948 01:53:44.490 --> 01:53:48.700 Josh Fogelson: and you know the community will support. Of course, if that's not the case. 949 01:53:48.810 --> 01:53:57.060 Josh Fogelson: And you guys want to go back and have a more in-depth analysis and kinda convey back to the city. 950 01:53:57.140 --> 01:54:00.680 Josh Fogelson: You know, through me what you're interested in. We can always do that too 951 01:54:01.080 --> 01:54:05.230 Evan Corrigan: cool. Did you think about the the Penmar at all. 952 01:54:05.470 --> 01:54:10.390 Evan Corrigan: I don't know how the the bike sure doesn't rose. I know there's a few down on the coastal side. 953 01:54:11.040 --> 01:54:12.990 Josh Fogelson: Yeah, I can. 954 01:54:15.130 --> 01:54:22.790 Josh Fogelson: I I don't know. I don't know. I don't know I'd have to look at my notes to say whether we like to that specific spot. But if it 955 01:54:22.890 --> 01:54:24.040 Josh Fogelson: but you know 956 01:54:24.880 --> 01:54:44.040 Josh Fogelson: if you guys as a community, and you know, I guess, as representatives of the community are interested in having, like a you know, talking about this at a later date and kind of looking at other sites and saying, hey, this other site has community support, and would be in your minds, you know, generating more rivership. 957 01:54:44.100 --> 01:54:51.670 Josh Fogelson: We're definitely interested in that. I think another thing to keep in mind, as you know, even if we don't have 958 01:54:52.010 --> 01:55:03.040 Josh Fogelson: immediate funding available, we do from time to time, you know, have to relocate stations for various reasons where we then we'll try to look for new sites for them. 959 01:55:03.220 --> 01:55:04.550 Josh Fogelson: So 960 01:55:05.030 --> 01:55:19.690 Josh Fogelson: if you guys have, You know, the desire to get more involved, and to kinda look at that i'm at. And you know, kind of generate a list of alternative sites that we have on hand, that we know 961 01:55:19.810 --> 01:55:26.540 Josh Fogelson: the Council District and the Neighborhood Council support of course we'll still go out and do 962 01:55:26.720 --> 01:55:37.220 Josh Fogelson: our in-person outreach and get the feedback there before we move forward, but also happy to, you know. Have you guys get more involved, even if it's more on a long term basis. 963 01:55:37.410 --> 01:55:50.020 Josh Fogelson: So it's a You know we have the immediate sighting that we're trying to get accomplished, but definitely encourage, You know. doing more long term planning, if that's, you know, in the capacity of your neighborhood group. 964 01:55:50.040 --> 01:55:53.580 Evan Corrigan: Cool. Yeah, me. Personally, i'm all for Wall Grove. 965 01:55:53.980 --> 01:55:59.930 Evan Corrigan: I've seen people using the bike shares down the mar this section of the bike. And 966 01:56:00.210 --> 01:56:03.700 Evan Corrigan: but that's me personally. Thanks so much. 967 01:56:03.760 --> 01:56:06.800 robertthibodeau: Yeah, I I agree, and 968 01:56:07.430 --> 01:56:10.800 robertthibodeau: the you know, notwithstanding 969 01:56:10.960 --> 01:56:18.780 robertthibodeau: the immediate neighbors, which is obviously an important reach out, and but as assuming that a large apartment building 970 01:56:18.920 --> 01:56:24.280 robertthibodeau: would also generate ridership, which you know the the 971 01:56:25.360 --> 01:56:29.040 robertthibodeau: would be kind of an assumption I would make, I think, citing it 972 01:56:29.130 --> 01:56:32.390 robertthibodeau: with easy access to the High School. 973 01:56:32.450 --> 01:56:39.110 robertthibodeau: Given the long commutes that some of these kids that go to Venice High School, aren't all from this area. 974 01:56:39.330 --> 01:56:51.190 robertthibodeau: and the idea to be able to take the train, say to Robertson, and then come down Venice Boulevard on a metro bike seems ideal to me, and then be able to. 975 01:56:51.310 --> 01:57:01.790 robertthibodeau: you know. Hip, hop across the street, and and and arrive at school. It seems like, you know, if if you could get to buy in from the apartment building, it seems like a great location. 976 01:57:01.960 --> 01:57:16.350 robertthibodeau: and and so I don't want you to walk away from this meeting feeling disappointed at any of our meetings. You will get a range of responses. and so, you know. Keep that in mind you're you're never going to go into a meeting. 977 01:57:16.480 --> 01:57:26.540 robertthibodeau: and and here a 100%. Rah, I mean very rarely. And then and and neither will you get the other, either. You know it's 978 01:57:26.870 --> 01:57:32.780 robertthibodeau: so, you know. Take Take it and measured measured doses here of what? What? You're hearing. 979 01:57:33.930 --> 01:57:39.920 robertthibodeau: Okay, and as far as motions and stuff. 980 01:57:42.070 --> 01:57:45.160 robertthibodeau: If you'd like to hear this in front of the full Vnc. 981 01:57:45.620 --> 01:57:58.230 robertthibodeau: I don't know if if now it's the time to put a motion together, or you want to come back with the actual motion of either support or not, we have our meetings. So the way the process works 982 01:57:58.560 --> 01:58:06.210 robertthibodeau: is that we that parking and transportation related items, and then, if we make a motion 983 01:58:06.380 --> 01:58:15.350 robertthibodeau: to support or not support it. then we'll vote, and then it would go on to the Greater 984 01:58:15.390 --> 01:58:17.730 robertthibodeau: Neighborhood Council 985 01:58:17.970 --> 01:58:28.630 robertthibodeau: on the third Tuesday. So our meetings are the first Mondays. If you're in a hurry for a decision, then you should probably somehow. Try and get us to make a motion on this thing. 986 01:58:29.030 --> 01:58:32.780 robertthibodeau: If you're not in a hurry, you could take back what 987 01:58:33.590 --> 01:58:42.250 robertthibodeau: input, you got from us in the community. and maybe do your outreach at the apartment building. Come back. 988 01:58:43.140 --> 01:58:48.860 robertthibodeau: Let us know what the apartment building owner said, and you know how happy to put you on the agenda 989 01:58:48.950 --> 01:58:52.550 robertthibodeau: for a motion on the 990 01:58:53.110 --> 01:59:00.820 robertthibodeau: the Monday, you know, 4 weeks from now and then you would go on to the B. And C 3 weeks after that. So that would all happen in March. 991 01:59:00.970 --> 01:59:01.560 Okay. 992 01:59:01.940 --> 01:59:03.660 robertthibodeau: that might be the best path. 993 01:59:04.370 --> 01:59:06.670 Josh Fogelson: Yeah, I mean regardless. 994 01:59:06.700 --> 01:59:11.070 Josh Fogelson: we will definitely Still, do you know neighborhood outreach? 995 01:59:11.410 --> 01:59:16.560 Josh Fogelson: So if your committee has heard enough, I mean, I would still 996 01:59:16.690 --> 01:59:26.940 Josh Fogelson: say, you know at this point it just whether you know it's a motion just whether your committee supports it or not. You think you have enough information to vote on it. 997 01:59:27.020 --> 01:59:32.270 Josh Fogelson: I would say you can vote on it today, and we, of course, we're still doing the community outreach. 998 01:59:32.510 --> 01:59:37.280 Josh Fogelson: but it would be good to hear, you know, at least the committees feeling. 999 01:59:37.490 --> 01:59:46.880 Josh Fogelson: But if the committee, you know. I believe you guys would be the ones making the motions of the committee feels like they want to hear from the neighborhood 1000 01:59:46.930 --> 01:59:55.140 Josh Fogelson: direct neighbors before voting, you know. That's that's fine, too. And we could definitely do that outreach. 1001 01:59:55.590 --> 02:00:07.600 Josh Fogelson: No, no, it's it's not just. You know the stations and storage right now. So we have other sites we're looking at, too. and you know every 1002 02:00:07.700 --> 02:00:21.820 Josh Fogelson: day. Essentially it's in storage. It's not serving the community or the city of la, which you know we're tasked to serve. So we definitely can wait. If you think that if you prefer that. 1003 02:00:21.820 --> 02:00:29.230 Josh Fogelson: or even if you want to do a more in depth analysis, and recommend other locations. That's completely fine, too. 1004 02:00:29.300 --> 02:00:40.510 robertthibodeau: Let's let's punt it until next next month, and if you could come back with some sort of idea of of ridership data, too. As Jim mentioned. 1005 02:00:40.830 --> 02:00:44.630 robertthibodeau: we would appreciate that. That's specific to. 1006 02:00:46.400 --> 02:00:49.350 robertthibodeau: you know, specific to Venice 1007 02:00:49.470 --> 02:00:51.780 robertthibodeau: which you said you have. So 1008 02:00:51.790 --> 02:00:58.600 robertthibodeau: yeah, what do you? I mean, I can share right now. Would you like me to share my screen on writership data? Wonderful. 1009 02:00:58.660 --> 02:01:00.470 Josh Fogelson: Sure. Okay, let's do it. 1010 02:01:01.480 --> 02:01:04.200 Josh Fogelson: I will say this 1011 02:01:05.320 --> 02:01:13.230 Josh Fogelson: is our internal dashboard, but I believe it, since it is a program operated for the public. 1012 02:01:13.360 --> 02:01:19.030 Josh Fogelson: I will share it. So right now here, okay, cool. 1013 02:01:19.170 --> 02:01:28.050 Josh Fogelson: So right now it's essentially what we're looking at. I mean, we can set it to whatever we want. But what we're looking at is the number of trips generated. 1014 02:01:28.200 --> 02:01:36.350 Josh Fogelson: the average number of trips generated per day since June first, 2,022. 1015 02:01:36.900 --> 02:01:41.530 Josh Fogelson: So if you can look here. The bigger circle means more trips. 1016 02:01:41.620 --> 02:01:52.320 Josh Fogelson: We wanna actually hover over. For example, as I said earlier in my presentation coach in Front walk and navy can generate up to for the last. Since 1017 02:01:53.250 --> 02:02:03.270 Josh Fogelson: June first 2022, on average, has generated 87 trips and a trip is either someone checking out a bike from that station or docking a bike 1018 02:02:03.910 --> 02:02:07.310 Josh Fogelson: at that station. So these, you know. 1019 02:02:07.330 --> 02:02:13.350 Josh Fogelson: west of of Lincoln definitely have much higher ridership. 1020 02:02:13.880 --> 02:02:25.990 Josh Fogelson: You can see 86. There's one by far as the highest, you know. 2459. And then you can see the average ridership you know once you get outside of 1021 02:02:26.830 --> 02:02:33.020 Josh Fogelson: you know, west of Lincoln, you know, gets more down to that 5 trips per day. 5.5, 6. 1022 02:02:33.130 --> 02:02:40.530 Josh Fogelson: The lowest ones are more in, you know, in palms and more suburban neighborhoods, which I guess actually are outside of your purview. 1023 02:02:40.840 --> 02:02:47.590 Josh Fogelson: And you know we don't have enough that doesn't show an overlay of the neighbor your Neighborhood Council. 1024 02:02:47.660 --> 02:02:51.300 Josh Fogelson: But hopefully, you guys know the borders. 1025 02:02:51.590 --> 02:03:00.300 Josh Fogelson: So yeah, in in terms of you know, we wanted to just generate ridership. We would drop it. you know. Go through the year long process and drop it right here on the beach. 1026 02:03:00.370 --> 02:03:07.720 Josh Fogelson: You know our plans are to get this station out as soon as possible, so we it can start being utilized 1027 02:03:07.810 --> 02:03:10.800 Josh Fogelson: so once again. That's why I suggested this location. 1028 02:03:10.880 --> 02:03:19.520 Josh Fogelson: But you know, if you have other locations that you guys want to discuss and come back, and you know, communicate. We're definitely open to that, too. 1029 02:03:23.650 --> 02:03:27.240 robertthibodeau: I'm gonna drag Evan in on this, Evan. What do you want to do 1030 02:03:28.990 --> 02:03:34.340 Evan Corrigan: I? You know we're just a one group of people of many groups in Venice and 1031 02:03:34.630 --> 02:03:37.190 Evan Corrigan: much of outreach They're gonna do. 1032 02:03:38.280 --> 02:03:41.580 Evan Corrigan: I support it. You support it. I feel like it's just. 1033 02:03:42.670 --> 02:03:51.270 Evan Corrigan: you know people, you know people are gonna be out to you at the apartment building. But can we just kind of this forward. it seems to me to. 1034 02:03:51.680 --> 02:03:57.670 Evan Corrigan: you know. Put something down where you know it's taking up one parking space worth of space on a 1035 02:03:57.790 --> 02:03:59.290 Evan Corrigan: red line curve. 1036 02:04:00.630 --> 02:04:03.360 Josh Fogelson: and and I would say, you know this is a 1037 02:04:03.840 --> 02:04:21.640 Josh Fogelson: This is a unique circumstance. You know where we have a station that we just are essentially spot sighting if we let's say, had funding, and we're get doing a full expansion, you know. Of course, we would be having multiple meetings, workshops, doing the full outreach. This is kinda. 1038 02:04:21.960 --> 02:04:30.620 Josh Fogelson: I guess, unique circumstances where we just have one station where try not to just keep in our storage facilities. 1039 02:04:30.810 --> 02:04:33.980 Evan Corrigan: You know we could discuss for years. 1040 02:04:34.060 --> 02:04:42.800 Evan Corrigan: or we could have that curve converted back to parking, which would probably take a long time, too. Why, don't you? Why, don't you propose a motion? Then 1041 02:04:46.740 --> 02:04:49.500 Evan Corrigan: I will right 1042 02:04:51.020 --> 02:04:53.380 Evan Corrigan: motion to support. 1043 02:04:57.140 --> 02:04:59.400 Evan Corrigan: Thanks for keeping me concise. Robert. 1044 02:04:59.820 --> 02:05:05.760 robertthibodeau: I don't forget to put 3 or 4, whereas in here. 1045 02:05:08.800 --> 02:05:13.250 Evan Corrigan: Can you? Do you want to crop some motion to support Metro bike 1046 02:05:14.160 --> 02:05:16.590 Evan Corrigan: share citing 1047 02:05:19.480 --> 02:05:22.920 Evan Corrigan: a station at the intersection? 1048 02:05:24.100 --> 02:05:25.500 Evan Corrigan: All grows. 1049 02:05:28.410 --> 02:05:29.580 Evan Corrigan: Is that good enough? 1050 02:05:30.280 --> 02:05:31.480 robertthibodeau: I think that's fine. 1051 02:05:31.810 --> 02:05:32.570 Evan Corrigan: Okay. 1052 02:05:33.770 --> 02:05:35.440 Evan Corrigan: you wanna 1053 02:05:35.600 --> 02:05:42.430 jim murez: Evan, Can I interrupt for 1 s, Robert? I want to remind Josh: because I don't think it's clear 1054 02:05:42.460 --> 02:06:00.090 jim murez: the Venice neighborhood Council is an elected body of 21 members. This is a subcommittee, and the subcommittee is not the voice of the Venice Neighborhood Council. So this this will go. I I tried to explain that this to come from the board. 1055 02:06:00.090 --> 02:06:07.420 jim murez: This this motion will go to the board, and then the Board will end up making the decision. You can then hang your hat on. Okay? 1056 02:06:08.290 --> 02:06:21.120 Josh Fogelson: Oh, yeah, no, that definitely. So I think that's why I would encourage. You know you the committee that at least move forward, since, like you, said this Isn't, this is just a reference to then the full board. 1057 02:06:21.160 --> 02:06:23.420 robertthibodeau: But then is a reference. 1058 02:06:23.580 --> 02:06:35.710 Josh Fogelson: you know to the overall. I mean, we we'll proceed, depending on how this vote goes with neighborhood outreach, so we can get that. Input but you know, this is just one step in the process so 1059 02:06:35.780 --> 02:06:44.300 robertthibodeau: definitely. I'm aware of that. So but thank you for reiterating 1060 02:06:45.100 --> 02:06:54.600 robertthibodeau: align another sentence. You kept it super short, but something. Can we say, you know. with 1061 02:06:54.970 --> 02:07:01.980 robertthibodeau: with proper neighborhood outreach or something like that? Or you know, I don't know exactly how to put the sentence 1062 02:07:02.160 --> 02:07:03.860 Evan Corrigan: proper community average. 1063 02:07:03.890 --> 02:07:04.670 robertthibodeau: Yeah. 1064 02:07:06.480 --> 02:07:08.850 robertthibodeau: Okay. with 1065 02:07:09.720 --> 02:07:15.820 Evan Corrigan: appropriate Jim don't need to put mode. You know. The Ptc. Recommends that the V. And C. 1066 02:07:16.230 --> 02:07:24.230 jim murez: So the correct motion would read the the Board of of of officers of the Venice Neighborhood Council 1067 02:07:24.520 --> 02:07:35.780 jim murez: supports the and then, in other words, you're you're you're you're writing the motion in the in the future of how it's going to be 1068 02:07:36.270 --> 02:07:37.990 jim murez: adopted by the Board. 1069 02:07:38.230 --> 02:07:42.910 jim murez: So your committee is making the motion to have the board. Take this action. 1070 02:07:43.970 --> 02:07:45.830 Evan Corrigan: Board of officers 1071 02:07:46.240 --> 02:07:50.820 jim murez: of the Vnc: yeah, the them is Neighborhood Council supports the bike share. Yes, that would be correct. 1072 02:07:52.120 --> 02:07:53.020 Evan Corrigan: Okay. 1073 02:07:53.870 --> 02:07:59.230 jim murez: and the Doesn't need to be capital. I just call I think it's just V. And C. Or then a 1074 02:07:59.460 --> 02:08:02.940 Evan Corrigan: alright. Cool anybody. Second it. 1075 02:08:06.070 --> 02:08:07.110 Alyson Wilson: i'll second it. 1076 02:08:07.370 --> 02:08:09.400 Evan Corrigan: Thank you. 1077 02:08:10.320 --> 02:08:11.120 Oh, my God! 1078 02:08:15.410 --> 02:08:21.570 Evan Corrigan: We vote on it. No, we we hunted back to discussion. 1079 02:08:21.880 --> 02:08:28.630 Evan Corrigan: or we can just vote on it because we already have a motion on the floor. You now have to take public comment on the motion. 1080 02:08:29.090 --> 02:08:32.820 Evan Corrigan: Okay to 30 s, if you want 1081 02:08:38.090 --> 02:08:38.980 robertthibodeau: Sure. 1082 02:08:42.170 --> 02:08:46.820 Sean Obrien: Based on his presentation. 1083 02:08:48.020 --> 02:08:49.100 Sean Obrien: it was. 1084 02:08:50.400 --> 02:08:53.040 Sean Obrien: it was property owners 1085 02:08:53.690 --> 02:08:55.270 Sean Obrien: that we're consulted. 1086 02:08:56.160 --> 02:09:00.600 Sean Obrien: not residents, not renters, not anybody. 1087 02:09:00.850 --> 02:09:05.240 Sean Obrien: And 90 of those property owners probably just dismissed it. 1088 02:09:05.470 --> 02:09:06.290 Sean Obrien: Thank you. 1089 02:09:09.470 --> 02:09:15.020 Evan Corrigan: Thank you. Don't see any more public Comment Board. Comment. 1090 02:09:16.740 --> 02:09:19.590 Evan Corrigan: don't see any port comment. Shall we vote on it? 1091 02:09:21.610 --> 02:09:22.760 Evan Corrigan: So, Selena. 1092 02:09:23.490 --> 02:09:40.280 Selena Inouye: Yeah, i'm sorry I didn't raise my hand. I I guess my only suggestion with this is that i'd like to see them have a discussion with Venice High School and the students there to see if they would actually use this Metro station. If it was place there. 1093 02:09:41.740 --> 02:09:44.550 Selena Inouye: I Has that been done already, Josh. 1094 02:09:47.190 --> 02:09:51.700 Josh Fogelson: No, we have not engaged with Venice High School directly. 1095 02:09:51.980 --> 02:09:59.490 Josh Fogelson: but that definitely could be a part of the you know a joke. Ne neighboring property owners outreach. 1096 02:10:02.570 --> 02:10:12.660 robertthibodeau: Okay. So, Josh: you've heard that Shawn's concerned that it not just be the property owners. It's also the renters, which I think I think I think you had indicated 1097 02:10:13.100 --> 02:10:19.760 robertthibodeau: that you would be dropping flyers off in the lobbies of these apartment buildings as best your access would allow you to. 1098 02:10:19.830 --> 02:10:28.260 robertthibodeau: and Selena suggested that you also reach out to the High school. So you, You've got those 2 in your pocket. 1099 02:10:28.480 --> 02:10:31.000 robertthibodeau: so we we move it on to a vote here. 1100 02:10:31.230 --> 02:10:31.920 Evan Corrigan: Yep. 1101 02:10:33.160 --> 02:10:34.590 robertthibodeau: So 1102 02:10:36.820 --> 02:10:38.070 Evan Corrigan: sorry. So now 1103 02:10:38.100 --> 02:10:39.840 Selena Inouye: I I wrote in favor. 1104 02:10:42.110 --> 02:10:43.130 robertthibodeau: Allison. 1105 02:10:47.000 --> 02:10:49.500 Alyson Wilson: Yes, thank you. 1106 02:10:49.580 --> 02:10:50.900 robertthibodeau: We've got Elizabeth. 1107 02:10:53.150 --> 02:10:54.140 Elizabeth C.: I think. Yes. 1108 02:10:55.920 --> 02:10:57.190 robertthibodeau: we've got Evan. 1109 02:10:57.210 --> 02:10:58.140 Evan Corrigan: Yes. 1110 02:10:59.010 --> 02:11:03.540 robertthibodeau: and Robert is also going to go. Yes, so we get 5 0 0, 1111 02:11:05.410 --> 02:11:11.270 robertthibodeau: and thank you, Josh, for your presentation, and we do hope that you 1112 02:11:12.530 --> 02:11:30.820 robertthibodeau: hustle that out out outreach, so that it's not really a question, because you'll be slated for the Vnc. On the third Tuesday, which is coming up pretty quick. If you need more time. We can always delay when it's heard from the Vnc. If you don't have time to do your outreach because 1113 02:11:30.900 --> 02:11:32.730 robertthibodeau: I could see it as sort of. 1114 02:11:32.820 --> 02:11:36.590 robertthibodeau: I could see people asking that question again, just as a heads up. 1115 02:11:36.700 --> 02:11:40.120 robertthibodeau: Yeah, and I I think that's great to bring up 1116 02:11:40.200 --> 02:11:45.800 Josh Fogelson: as of. Now let's schedule it. But you know I have, of course, yours and Evans 1117 02:11:45.820 --> 02:11:49.700 robertthibodeau: emails on that email. So you know a week out of 1118 02:11:49.770 --> 02:11:55.110 robertthibodeau: if if it we can let you guys know. Okay, Very good. 1119 02:11:55.450 --> 02:12:03.440 robertthibodeau: And thank you. Thank you for presenting and stuff. 1120 02:12:03.710 --> 02:12:09.120 jim murez: Adcom: I believe. Let's see the board's on the 20 first. I think Adcom was on the 1121 02:12:09.300 --> 02:12:23.860 jim murez: I'm. Just looking at comm is on the sixteenth. That means you have to have it sent to addcom, at least as a placeholder by the thirteenth. So by like 50'clock on the thirteenth, so it can get posted onto the atcom 1122 02:12:23.890 --> 02:12:26.420 jim murez: agenda before it goes on to the board's agenda. 1123 02:12:26.440 --> 02:12:40.810 jim murez: You are correct, Jim. It is a very rapid schedule. Yeah, you could put it on as a placeholder, and we can always pull it at the Board meeting if the outreach hasn't occurred, the general timing of it at this point. 1124 02:12:41.190 --> 02:12:47.990 Josh Fogelson: Yeah, I think I think we'll be dependent on just our print shop schedule, and how quickly we can generate 1125 02:12:48.490 --> 02:12:57.260 Josh Fogelson: the mailers, you know, specific to this, and if we're able to do it, you know, in the next week. Then we'd be out there next week giving them out. 1126 02:12:57.390 --> 02:13:14.330 Josh Fogelson: But you know i'll give it a 50 50% chance as of now. So if you're able to do a placeholder, I do that, and then I can let you know. You know, mid middle of next week. How that's looking, and if not, you know, we would go to the next month. 1127 02:13:14.470 --> 02:13:16.570 robertthibodeau: Okay. Yeah, thank you. 1128 02:13:18.580 --> 02:13:22.400 robertthibodeau: Evan. Next next item. 1129 02:13:22.550 --> 02:13:24.350 Evan Corrigan: So we have this 1130 02:13:24.550 --> 02:13:29.990 Evan Corrigan: spot widening motion. That's kind of urgent. Or maybe it's not urgent anymore. 1131 02:13:30.200 --> 02:13:33.130 Evan Corrigan: But I know we have Nico and Mark. 1132 02:13:33.160 --> 02:13:36.620 Evan Corrigan: who probably want to talk about the ovo stuff Been waiting 1133 02:13:36.950 --> 02:13:45.000 robertthibodeau: for a few hours. and let me make sure Nico Nico is still working, so let me text him to 1134 02:13:47.290 --> 02:13:49.020 robertthibodeau: Nico Nico. 1135 02:13:52.820 --> 02:14:01.850 Selena Inouye: Evan, Can I ask you a quick question? Automatic street dedication motion? Is that something that loop he has taken up? 1136 02:14:02.550 --> 02:14:11.610 Evan Corrigan: I don't believe I haven't heard anything about it. But the city council actually already voted on this to move forward with 1137 02:14:12.700 --> 02:14:17.140 Evan Corrigan: trying to end this for requirement of spot widening. 1138 02:14:18.360 --> 02:14:23.180 Evan Corrigan: So we are just going to submit a Cis in favor of it, as 1139 02:14:23.490 --> 02:14:27.840 Evan Corrigan: many other community councils did. 1140 02:14:29.190 --> 02:14:31.820 Selena Inouye: because my understanding is that this has 1141 02:14:32.180 --> 02:14:49.150 Selena Inouye: is, might be more of a loop tech issue than a parking and transportation issue. And the way that it's been explained to me is that the developers make a commitment in terms of of doing something with the roadway in front of their property. 1142 02:14:49.210 --> 02:15:05.630 Selena Inouye: and there's a a school of thought that says that maybe they don't want to have them widen the street, but they don't want to let the developer out of their commitment to do some kind of improvement to the roadway in front of their property, so 1143 02:15:05.630 --> 02:15:12.430 Selena Inouye: I I feel like that goes kind of beyond our committee, and is more of a kind of discussion. 1144 02:15:12.980 --> 02:15:24.620 robertthibodeau: I think the portions of this that the motion was hearing or directly related to widening the streets, and creating those 1145 02:15:24.880 --> 02:15:29.190 robertthibodeau: kind of awkward cut in on the streets 1146 02:15:29.310 --> 02:15:40.600 robertthibodeau: as related to the 20. What is it 2035 or 2050 mobility plan. and 1147 02:15:40.830 --> 02:15:42.900 robertthibodeau: I don't think it affects 1148 02:15:43.070 --> 02:15:51.090 robertthibodeau: the requirements for additional street lighting when called for for by developers 1149 02:15:51.170 --> 02:15:56.020 robertthibodeau: or sidewalk improvements. I think this is specific to 1150 02:15:56.350 --> 02:15:57.880 robertthibodeau: to the. 1151 02:15:59.730 --> 02:16:01.720 robertthibodeau: to, the 1152 02:16:02.210 --> 02:16:12.580 robertthibodeau: to the cut-ins. You know the those those sort of little scallops that you see out of the out of the streets trying to make the streets to a uniform standard 1153 02:16:12.910 --> 02:16:15.180 robertthibodeau: that are kind of tough for Venice. 1154 02:16:16.180 --> 02:16:21.620 jim murez: Yeah, you know, Robert, if I may, this is something we took up back when I was chair 1155 02:16:22.920 --> 02:16:29.200 jim murez: over 90% of the streets in Venice. Don't comply to the 2,035 mobility transportation plan. 1156 02:16:29.250 --> 02:16:33.389 robertthibodeau: right? And we objected at the time now that there's something on 1157 02:16:33.760 --> 02:16:36.780 jim murez: on the the City Council's agenda. I think 1158 02:16:37.000 --> 02:16:47.030 jim murez: Evans got it right. Lupeck has not taken this up. It's something that at this point they're only doing when there is a developer that's doing a track map. 1159 02:16:47.209 --> 02:16:55.980 jim murez: and it is definitely cutting into the neighborhood, reducing public parking because the way that the curves are end up being created. If we can get 1160 02:16:56.059 --> 02:17:00.160 jim murez: a a community impact statement on this before the board. I think it would be great. 1161 02:17:01.580 --> 02:17:13.139 Evan Corrigan: Yeah, in regards to transportation. I mean, these cut outs make the street kind of incoherent for walking, and also it knocks out street trees. So I think it's 1162 02:17:13.610 --> 02:17:16.980 Evan Corrigan: totally something worth us taking up. 1163 02:17:17.350 --> 02:17:22.260 jim murez: Yeah, it's not a problem. Also, Robert, in case you didn't realize that Nico has his hand up in the audience. 1164 02:17:24.180 --> 02:17:36.760 robertthibodeau: Yes, Nicos, I had just texted him that his thing was coming up. I wasn't sure the order we were doing this when I texted him at this point. Should we just go ahead and 1165 02:17:36.830 --> 02:17:44.170 robertthibodeau: open this up for public comment? Maybe we make a motion on. It. Yeah, let's make the motion to S to 1166 02:17:44.320 --> 02:17:53.110 robertthibodeau: to so to file the Cis motion for the 1167 02:17:54.340 --> 02:18:01.360 robertthibodeau: the Board of officers to file Cis in support of council. File 22, 1168 02:18:01.790 --> 02:18:03.719 robertthibodeau: 1 476. 1169 02:18:06.680 --> 02:18:08.049 Evan Corrigan: Can I? Second it? 1170 02:18:09.620 --> 02:18:10.760 robertthibodeau: Yes. 1171 02:18:13.139 --> 02:18:15.809 Evan Corrigan: right. public comments. 1172 02:18:19.900 --> 02:18:24.469 Evan Corrigan: So anybody have any comment on spot widening sean O'brien 1173 02:18:28.059 --> 02:18:39.840 Sean Obrien: I'm sorry I didn't understand the motion. You read it into record. so I don't know what i'm speaking on. Sorry to waste your time. 1174 02:18:43.360 --> 02:18:45.200 Evan Corrigan: Sure this is 1175 02:18:46.090 --> 02:18:57.250 Evan Corrigan: this is just about the City Council voted to move forward with a plan to Eden and Spot, widening on streets 1176 02:18:57.480 --> 02:19:04.830 Evan Corrigan: requirements for new developments. I'm sure Robert could speak more to that. 1177 02:19:04.879 --> 02:19:09.389 jim murez: Evan, just just to make it clear. You have the motion written out. 1178 02:19:09.440 --> 02:19:11.290 jim murez: but you also have some other 1179 02:19:12.000 --> 02:19:21.799 jim murez: full of points below it, and it says the V. And C. Ptc. Recommends it's not the B. And C. It's actually, if you could edit that. And then 1180 02:19:21.809 --> 02:19:27.370 Evan Corrigan: you see what i'm saying, yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So let's see here the Board of officers. 1181 02:19:29.459 --> 02:19:30.450 jim murez: There you go. 1182 02:19:34.860 --> 02:19:36.510 Evan Corrigan: Board of officers 1183 02:19:41.530 --> 02:19:42.320 jim murez: perfect. 1184 02:19:42.379 --> 02:20:00.490 jim murez: Should I put anything about? No, you don't need the following reason: so unless you want it to be added to the Cis, so the Cis what the way it works is I have to go into the city system, and I'm allowed to support the Council motion, support the Council motion with modifications. 1185 02:20:00.490 --> 02:20:18.040 jim murez: deny or or reject the Council motion, or reject with modifications, and those are the only 4 things I have to check off a box, and then, after I do that, then I can add additional text. So if you want additional text to be included, you would include it as part of 1186 02:20:18.040 --> 02:20:30.670 jim murez: the discussion, or like you've done here with bullet points. But just make sure that when you submit it to the Board, it's very clear whether or not it's support with modifications or so just plain support as it's written. 1187 02:20:30.900 --> 02:20:34.670 jim murez: or deny or deny it with modifications as it's written. 1188 02:20:34.700 --> 02:20:36.720 Evan Corrigan: Okay, thank you. 1189 02:20:38.180 --> 02:20:46.000 robertthibodeau: Do we need to remake the motion? I I edited the first couple of words to say, instead of 1190 02:20:46.030 --> 02:20:47.340 robertthibodeau: so strike. 1191 02:20:47.440 --> 02:20:51.120 robertthibodeau: V and C. Ptc. Recommends. 1192 02:20:52.050 --> 02:20:53.170 robertthibodeau: and then 1193 02:20:53.420 --> 02:20:56.750 robertthibodeau: up to N. C. And say 1194 02:20:56.850 --> 02:21:07.860 robertthibodeau: instead, replace that with the Board of Officers files a Cis supporting. ending automatic, and then just keep the rest of it. I think that 1195 02:21:09.770 --> 02:21:18.600 robertthibodeau: that that that's what I took away from that board of officers in the Venice Neighborhood Council files a Cis supporting it and the ending, and then just keep the rest of it. 1196 02:21:20.210 --> 02:21:24.330 Evan Corrigan: Okay. public comment anymore 1197 02:21:27.540 --> 02:21:28.540 Evan Corrigan: for comment. 1198 02:21:32.340 --> 02:21:35.580 Evan Corrigan: Anybody want wire streets, less trees. 1199 02:21:37.830 --> 02:21:41.040 Evan Corrigan: no board comment vote. 1200 02:21:42.600 --> 02:21:45.490 robertthibodeau: Why don't you take the take the vote this time? 1201 02:21:45.850 --> 02:21:46.820 Evan Corrigan: Awesome. 1202 02:21:48.980 --> 02:21:49.770 Alyson Wilson: Yes. 1203 02:21:51.320 --> 02:21:52.970 Evan Corrigan: Elizabeth. 1204 02:21:56.630 --> 02:21:58.680 Elizabeth C.: Sorry. Technical difficulties. Yet. 1205 02:22:00.290 --> 02:22:01.200 Evan Corrigan: Selena. 1206 02:22:02.600 --> 02:22:05.280 Selena Inouye: I need to abstain. Thanks. 1207 02:22:06.150 --> 02:22:07.360 Evan Corrigan: Robert. 1208 02:22:09.200 --> 02:22:10.180 robertthibodeau: Yes. 1209 02:22:10.640 --> 02:22:16.280 Evan Corrigan: and Evan. Yes, so that's 4 1 4 0, one 1210 02:22:16.420 --> 02:22:17.140 Evan Corrigan: cool. 1211 02:22:21.670 --> 02:22:22.580 Evan Corrigan: Alright. 1212 02:22:26.120 --> 02:22:31.750 Evan Corrigan: So this is Nicos thing. Can I allow him to? Exactly 1213 02:22:37.240 --> 02:22:48.100 jim murez: so, Evan. Normally the way that this you you read the motion. and and then let 1214 02:22:48.140 --> 02:23:00.350 Evan Corrigan: whoever the presenter is, make the discussion. I I I before you read. I have a request for me here 11. First, I think it makes more sense to hear 11. 1215 02:23:00.770 --> 02:23:12.760 Evan Corrigan: The motion is so long perfect. So this is in regards to 1216 02:23:12.900 --> 02:23:20.630 Evan Corrigan: implementing a Venice oversized vehicle ordinance that assigns about sure. We all know what we're talking about. 1217 02:23:21.160 --> 02:23:37.840 Evan Corrigan: So now, therefore, be it resolved. The Venice Neighborhood Council calls upon Council Member Tracy Park to issue to the La Dot letters directing the installation of the required signage to advocate for a prohibition of oversized vehicles from parking 1218 02:23:37.930 --> 02:23:47.370 Evan Corrigan: 2 to 6 am. On all of the streets, as defined by section one of the ordinance, 1814, 13, 1219 02:23:47.400 --> 02:23:56.990 Evan Corrigan: commercial and residential, but do not now have such signs to accomplish the underlying objective of the Ohio ordinance. 1220 02:23:58.890 --> 02:24:03.650 jim murez: And now you you're making the motion, and then now you need somebody else to second it. 1221 02:24:03.860 --> 02:24:05.690 Evan Corrigan: Okay, i'll make the motion. 1222 02:24:06.340 --> 02:24:08.740 Alyson Wilson: Anybody want to second that. 1223 02:24:09.090 --> 02:24:10.410 Evan Corrigan: thanks to you 1224 02:24:10.810 --> 02:24:12.990 jim murez: and Nico makes the presentation. 1225 02:24:13.170 --> 02:24:15.120 Evan Corrigan: or whoever it is. 1226 02:24:15.230 --> 02:24:23.570 Nico Ruderman: sure. And I I think I think Mark is still on as well. It's just something we discussed and and co-authored. 1227 02:24:23.700 --> 02:24:29.680 Nico Ruderman: you know. I I think it's pretty self explanatory what this is, but but basically what it gets into is 1228 02:24:30.530 --> 02:24:36.070 Nico Ruderman: currently our Council office, and the previous Council Office 1229 02:24:36.230 --> 02:24:47.540 Nico Ruderman: has required residents to gather petitions to get these oversized vehicle signs put on their block, and and I I think you have to have two-thirds 1230 02:24:47.690 --> 02:24:49.150 Nico Ruderman: of the people signed 1231 02:24:49.390 --> 02:24:57.180 Nico Ruderman: now in, and I know if Mark is on, he can maybe correct me. If some of this is wrong in in 2,000, I think it was 2,011 1232 02:24:57.260 --> 02:25:09.450 Nico Ruderman: ordinance 1814, 13 was passed, specifically designating a large chunk of Venice to get all of the to get these signs without any further. 1233 02:25:11.760 --> 02:25:25.720 Nico Ruderman: the action be being taken. So so basically the the ordinance is already in place to put these signs on, and if if you have, I I I submitted that ordinance as well, but but in that ordinance it defines 1234 02:25:25.740 --> 02:25:29.090 Nico Ruderman: the area within Venice that this affects. 1235 02:25:30.510 --> 02:25:34.210 Nico Ruderman: So, so basically it's it's. This is motion is to get them to 1236 02:25:34.380 --> 02:25:38.430 Nico Ruderman: follow this ordinance. That was past 12 years ago. 1237 02:25:38.730 --> 02:25:44.450 Nico Ruderman: so that we don't have to go block by block to get these signs playing, Whack them all. 1238 02:25:44.740 --> 02:25:48.920 Nico Ruderman: and the the the. 1239 02:25:49.370 --> 02:25:51.720 Nico Ruderman: you know. Obviously the the 1240 02:25:52.720 --> 02:25:59.420 Nico Ruderman: obvious issue that that comes to mind is, you know, all the Rvs and and you know people living in the Rvs. But 1241 02:26:00.060 --> 02:26:15.410 Nico Ruderman: you know, at least in my neighborhood there's a lot more to it than that around my house regularly. There are commercial vehicles that are just stored on the streets, you know, like you, you halls and and various large vehicles taking up a lot of parking. 1242 02:26:15.490 --> 02:26:18.720 Nico Ruderman: I I know we we're in North Venice. 1243 02:26:18.780 --> 02:26:24.890 Nico Ruderman: Santa Monica has an ordinance that no oversized vehicles are allowed anywhere in the city. So 1244 02:26:26.330 --> 02:26:30.890 Nico Ruderman: there are people who, I I believe, Park there. If they have Rvs 1245 02:26:30.940 --> 02:26:34.880 Nico Ruderman: Park them just a couple of blocks away and in Venice, so that they don't have to 1246 02:26:36.630 --> 02:26:46.250 Nico Ruderman: store them, you know, and then, like Rv. Parking lots because they can't park them in their own city. So there's a lot more to it than this. There's there's also 1247 02:26:46.740 --> 02:26:58.520 Nico Ruderman: the environmental concerns as well. You know, everybody's very familiar that there's been a lot of Rvs that have dumped both just right onto the streets or directly into our storm drains. 1248 02:26:58.580 --> 02:27:08.850 Nico Ruderman: which then drains right into our ocean, affecting ocean, wildlife, surfers, beach goers, etc. So 1249 02:27:08.880 --> 02:27:13.280 Nico Ruderman: the we we want to put this motion forwards to ask 1250 02:27:13.380 --> 02:27:15.230 Nico Ruderman: our Council member to 1251 02:27:15.780 --> 02:27:25.670 Nico Ruderman: put these signs up, and and if, if, if if Mark's still on, I've I I I believe this ordinance has already been through City council, so 1252 02:27:25.710 --> 02:27:28.710 Nico Ruderman: it wouldn't even have to go through city council again. 1253 02:27:32.000 --> 02:27:42.800 Nico Ruderman: whereas previously, you know, we've we've been told that oh, you know, each each block has to go through and and and be voted in by the city council. I believe this ordinance gets around that. 1254 02:27:44.370 --> 02:27:47.340 Nico Ruderman: So that's that's the short of it. 1255 02:27:47.370 --> 02:27:51.690 Nico Ruderman: I'm not sure if it Mark wants to speak to this at all, either. He he wrote a lot of this. 1256 02:28:04.760 --> 02:28:07.720 Mark Ryavec: Robert, Can I weigh in at this point. 1257 02:28:08.430 --> 02:28:10.920 robertthibodeau: Yeah, I was hoping you would. 1258 02:28:11.780 --> 02:28:12.720 robertthibodeau: Whoops. 1259 02:28:12.860 --> 02:28:18.430 robertthibodeau: Sorry, Mark unmute again. I thought I was unmuting you, but I just accidentally muted you. 1260 02:28:18.770 --> 02:28:21.340 robertthibodeau: Okay, okay, go ahead 1261 02:28:22.720 --> 02:28:31.220 Mark Ryavec: of of all the Venice issues that I've been associated with. This is the one I've had the Mo. The longest association with 1262 02:28:32.490 --> 02:28:34.990 Mark Ryavec: I and some others, including Allison. 1263 02:28:35.640 --> 02:28:42.330 Mark Ryavec: Stewart, Oscars, Nicoletta, Scarlettos Peter. Not long list of people 1264 02:28:42.680 --> 02:28:53.360 Mark Ryavec: that led the effort initially to get oversized, restricted parking and to abbreviate that process somewhere 1265 02:28:54.190 --> 02:29:04.090 Mark Ryavec: in that process the Coastal Commission staff, went to Rosen Doll and said. You know we won't require you to get a coastal development. Permit to put up 1266 02:29:04.360 --> 02:29:07.080 Mark Ryavec: no oversized vehicles signs. 1267 02:29:07.270 --> 02:29:09.360 Mark Ryavec: you know, for the night time hours. 1268 02:29:10.280 --> 02:29:23.240 Mark Ryavec: Rosen Doll came to us and said, what do you think? And we said, Well, as long as you don't back back away from your support for overnight restricted parking. Let's amend the existing ordinance. 1269 02:29:23.620 --> 02:29:33.330 Mark Ryavec: and it only pertains to Venice Lincoln to the Ocean Santa Monica border 1270 02:29:35.060 --> 02:29:36.200 Mark Ryavec: to the Marina. 1271 02:29:38.290 --> 02:29:41.970 Mark Ryavec: That was at the time largely where we had 1272 02:29:42.430 --> 02:29:52.890 Mark Ryavec: both a large number of Rvs campers and commercial vehicles that were being stored on markedly residential streets to some extent on 1273 02:29:53.230 --> 02:29:55.390 Mark Ryavec: commercial streets 1274 02:29:56.390 --> 02:29:58.090 Mark Ryavec: and good 1275 02:29:58.480 --> 02:30:01.060 Mark Ryavec: it passed, and 1276 02:30:02.400 --> 02:30:05.650 Mark Ryavec: many streets in Venice have the signage. 1277 02:30:07.480 --> 02:30:12.570 Mark Ryavec: In the preamble of the ordinance. There was a mention that the Council Office 1278 02:30:15.460 --> 02:30:17.110 Mark Ryavec: will it its own 1279 02:30:18.040 --> 02:30:24.450 Mark Ryavec: initiative. It wants established some way to pull residents to see if 1280 02:30:24.920 --> 02:30:31.080 Mark Ryavec: residents in a particular block want to have the the signage 1281 02:30:32.730 --> 02:30:39.840 Mark Ryavec: they into a petition. But there is nothing in the ordinance that requires a petition. and 1282 02:30:41.060 --> 02:30:44.060 Mark Ryavec: Nicole and I heard initially I was talking to. 1283 02:30:45.400 --> 02:30:49.210 Mark Ryavec: so that there's or sua about 1284 02:30:49.940 --> 02:30:53.220 Mark Ryavec: the problem she has where she's trying to get 1285 02:30:53.820 --> 02:30:58.650 Mark Ryavec: the signage up on brooks between Main and Pacific. 1286 02:31:00.750 --> 02:31:11.630 Mark Ryavec: She's was having trouble finding residents home. or in the case where a unit was empty, finding the owner who can sign in lieu of 1287 02:31:11.930 --> 02:31:14.530 Mark Ryavec: the the the the renter. 1288 02:31:14.780 --> 02:31:20.970 Mark Ryavec: and then I was talking to Nico, and Nico said that he had the same problem 1289 02:31:21.040 --> 02:31:25.820 Mark Ryavec: around the corner from from him. I think it was on Indiana or Vernon. 1290 02:31:27.240 --> 02:31:32.230 Mark Ryavec: and we started discussing. How can we solve this problem that it's 1291 02:31:33.750 --> 02:31:36.380 Mark Ryavec: difficult to 1292 02:31:36.570 --> 02:31:40.230 Mark Ryavec: but occasionally have the time 1293 02:31:40.590 --> 02:31:53.750 Mark Ryavec: to find the rent, the the renters and we have a two-thirds renters community in the absence of a renter. It's difficult to track down. The property owner, who oftentimes is absentee. 1294 02:31:56.370 --> 02:31:58.440 Mark Ryavec: and the other problem is security buildings. 1295 02:31:58.470 --> 02:32:05.300 Mark Ryavec: You can't get to the the residents. Well, the other side of this calling is that 1296 02:32:05.830 --> 02:32:09.540 Mark Ryavec: when we were collecting signatures we 1297 02:32:09.740 --> 02:32:14.170 Mark Ryavec: in it found very little opposition. If you could get to people 1298 02:32:14.210 --> 02:32:20.710 Mark Ryavec: you could get the signature, and, as as many of you know, many of the streets are 1299 02:32:20.760 --> 02:32:33.130 Mark Ryavec: fine. and it's been well established under Mr. Bonn that in instances where the city or the school district owns the property. 1300 02:32:33.490 --> 02:32:38.150 Mark Ryavec: the Dnc. Can simply act 1301 02:32:38.540 --> 02:32:41.780 Mark Ryavec: and ask that the signage goes up. 1302 02:32:41.920 --> 02:32:47.320 Mark Ryavec: An example is Westminster and Main Street 1303 02:32:47.950 --> 02:32:52.680 Mark Ryavec: and Ava Kinney, around the Westminster Elementary School. 1304 02:32:53.070 --> 02:32:55.600 Mark Ryavec: where the signs have been put up 1305 02:32:56.290 --> 02:33:00.200 Mark Ryavec: without any petitions being filed by 1306 02:33:00.340 --> 02:33:07.390 Mark Ryavec: property owners or residents. Then the other important footnote is that, as Nico pointed out. 1307 02:33:07.840 --> 02:33:20.180 Mark Ryavec: Santa Monica Doesn't allow any Rvs or campers on the streets without a temporary permit, you know, for 3 days to meet your Uncle Malibu Doesn't. Allow it Beverly Hills Doesn't. Allow it. 1308 02:33:20.680 --> 02:33:23.370 Mark Ryavec: and none of the beach cities allow it. 1309 02:33:23.390 --> 02:33:31.000 Mark Ryavec: and our county neighbor, the the unincorporated area of Mario Delay also do not allow 1310 02:33:31.080 --> 02:33:33.320 Mark Ryavec: Rvs and campers. 1311 02:33:33.680 --> 02:33:39.230 Mark Ryavec: And so we thought, Why are we putting our residents 1312 02:33:40.080 --> 02:33:45.990 Mark Ryavec: through these hurdles to do something that's generally 1313 02:33:47.750 --> 02:33:49.550 Mark Ryavec: desirable 1314 02:33:49.780 --> 02:33:53.260 Mark Ryavec: or desired by the the residents 1315 02:33:53.530 --> 02:33:58.030 Mark Ryavec: of our district? So 1316 02:33:58.250 --> 02:34:01.700 Mark Ryavec: i'm happy to ask and answer any questions 1317 02:34:03.550 --> 02:34:06.690 Mark Ryavec: you know about what what we've drafted. 1318 02:34:15.980 --> 02:34:18.410 Evan Corrigan: Thanks, Mark and Nico. I see some 1319 02:34:18.650 --> 02:34:22.400 Evan Corrigan: hands up because this is still a public comment. Right. 1320 02:34:23.470 --> 02:34:24.350 Evan Corrigan: Robert. 1321 02:34:28.770 --> 02:34:43.070 jim murez: assuming it is all go ahead. And yeah, I was muted. I'm: sorry. No, actually, you haven't started public comment. Yet that was the presentation being made by the people we we are now going to move into public comment. Yeah, let's move into public comment 1322 02:34:43.250 --> 02:34:44.580 participants. 1323 02:34:44.670 --> 02:34:46.170 robertthibodeau: Yeah, we have. 1324 02:34:46.680 --> 02:34:51.890 robertthibodeau: Okay. So one of them is Mark Nico. You guys have already spoke to him. We're gonna go, Steve Bradbury. 1325 02:34:52.890 --> 02:34:59.590 Steve Bradbury: Thank you. Our question for you, for for for for Nicole or from mark when you said before that 1326 02:34:59.830 --> 02:35:04.620 Steve Bradbury: it covered Venice down to the arena. Does that include the marina. 1327 02:35:04.630 --> 02:35:13.600 Steve Bradbury: the the the part, the peninsula, the silver Strand Oxford triangle does that include that area as well? Because, while we don't have nearly 1328 02:35:13.940 --> 02:35:17.450 Steve Bradbury: as much of an issue as, for example, on Venice. 1329 02:35:17.480 --> 02:35:31.690 Steve Bradbury: we do occasionally have them there, and my concern is that the more they get moved out of other places they're going to look for some place else to go so hopefully the Marina should be included in this. But the question is, is it already included in it? Now. 1330 02:35:33.370 --> 02:35:44.940 robertthibodeau: okay, let's can we? So we don't, get into a back and forth. Can we take Steve's question, and we are all going to remember it, and then we're going to give a market chance to 1331 02:35:45.340 --> 02:35:50.430 robertthibodeau: answer all the questions at once. If assuming there are other ones that come up. 1332 02:35:51.400 --> 02:35:56.900 robertthibodeau: you'll end up. As to unmute Yolanda. 1333 02:35:58.790 --> 02:36:00.960 robertthibodeau: i'm asking you to. I'm here I'm here. 1334 02:36:01.150 --> 02:36:12.780 1310****690: I'm here i'm here 1335 02:36:12.900 --> 02:36:24.280 1310****690: Washington Boulevard, but I just want to make sure that we are guaranteed that there's going to be some action on it, because I'm constantly fighting this issue in front of my property sometimes. Thank you. 1336 02:36:24.670 --> 02:36:26.260 robertthibodeau: Thank you. I'll answer that. 1337 02:36:26.490 --> 02:36:53.710 robertthibodeau: Okay. So that's follow up Yolanda. You take your hand down and we have Robin asked to unmute. asking you to unmute. So i'm all in favor of the concept. I do want to raise the question of having more signs that create blight in our visual space. So if there were any way to achieve this without having 1338 02:36:53.710 --> 02:36:58.780 Robin Murez: more signs, I would be all the more in favor of it. That's all. 1339 02:36:59.590 --> 02:37:02.410 robertthibodeau: Okay. We have a Chris L. 1340 02:37:04.080 --> 02:37:06.580 robertthibodeau: Allowed to talk. Chris L. 1341 02:37:07.430 --> 02:37:21.570 Chris L: Hello, Yes, I live on the 900 block of Venezuela, and we actually put a partition in for the signs about a year ago, and have never had the signs actually put up. It's imperative to us because we live right off Venice. 1342 02:37:22.050 --> 02:37:38.310 Chris L: right of Lincoln Boulevard, and we get all all sorts of commercial vehicles and campus coming in. Well, my question really is is that the 800 block of has it, and it doesn't stop people parking there. If the signs are going up and I do agree. 1343 02:37:38.410 --> 02:37:52.120 Chris L: you know more signs is is more blight as well is. But if there's no compliance, what are we doing about actually there being some compliance with this? Because what's the point of having science. If there's absolutely no law enforcement, no compliance in this issue. 1344 02:37:52.260 --> 02:38:04.100 robertthibodeau: Chris, I'm. Gonna take that one on, because we've we've had this issue before, but i'm gonna let everybody speak first. Okay. So not ignoring the question. But let's go through all the comments we've got Shawn 1345 02:38:04.520 --> 02:38:06.570 robertthibodeau: allowed to talk Shawn. 1346 02:38:07.650 --> 02:38:13.990 sean obrien: I agree with Robin signed sign Everywhere is signed Great song. 1347 02:38:14.220 --> 02:38:16.560 sean obrien: That being said. 1348 02:38:18.890 --> 02:38:21.420 sean obrien: I agree with the 1349 02:38:21.990 --> 02:38:26.100 sean obrien: our neighbor to the North Santa Monica. 1350 02:38:26.340 --> 02:38:31.830 sean obrien: It's amazing how They're able to only post signs on their perimeters. 1351 02:38:32.300 --> 02:38:39.250 sean obrien: and they're able to get away with it for it's actually probably been about 3, 4 years, if not longer that 1352 02:38:40.060 --> 02:38:46.460 sean obrien: are these are not allowed on the street. I grew up. I couldn't even park a dooley 1353 02:38:46.580 --> 02:38:47.940 sean obrien: on the street. 1354 02:38:48.100 --> 02:38:53.140 sean obrien: so I don't know how we can allow our bees parking on the screen. 1355 02:38:53.390 --> 02:38:55.140 sean obrien: regardless of 1356 02:38:55.200 --> 02:39:02.200 sean obrien: living or whatnot, but you can't see it's. It poses a huge danger 1357 02:39:02.220 --> 02:39:09.390 sean obrien: to traffic. You can't see around them. You you! You're trying to pull out. You're trying to move. You're trying to do this. 1358 02:39:09.450 --> 02:39:14.500 sean obrien: and you, you know. And then oh, you got a gun it, because now, all of a sudden, you see, I'm gonna be driving 1359 02:39:16.220 --> 02:39:22.090 sean obrien: that being said, I also agree. I have several neighbors that have petitioned 1360 02:39:22.550 --> 02:39:26.000 sean obrien: and got the the necessary 1361 02:39:26.140 --> 02:39:35.530 sean obrien: signatures, and they've been waiting a year year and a half to get the signs, and then my final thing is. 1362 02:39:35.690 --> 02:39:38.860 sean obrien: it's the signs are so prohibited 1363 02:39:39.010 --> 02:39:47.660 sean obrien: that I call Dot to say, hey, I got a problem, They said, oh, you got a call between 2 and 6, 1364 02:39:47.930 --> 02:39:56.400 sean obrien: so I set my clock and I. I wake up at 155, and I walk out on the street. Make sure it's still there. 1365 02:39:56.530 --> 02:40:02.070 sean obrien: and then I got a call in It's a I to me. I kind of think it's a joke 1366 02:40:02.200 --> 02:40:12.930 sean obrien: that how many neighbors are really, really really gonna wake up at 2 in the morning and make that phone call to get enforcement 1367 02:40:13.080 --> 02:40:16.250 sean obrien: and the Enforcement's lacks 1368 02:40:16.430 --> 02:40:18.770 sean obrien: it's too non-existent. 1369 02:40:18.950 --> 02:40:20.100 sean obrien: and 1370 02:40:21.040 --> 02:40:40.720 sean obrien: it all all of a sudden now, it comes down to Well, we can ticket them before Lapd would come out, and they would ask them to move. But now it's a ticket, and then they just go to St. Joseph and say, Joseph pays the ticket, and then we get charged that our tax dollar, our taxpayer expense. 1371 02:40:40.870 --> 02:40:43.370 sean obrien: So I support the motion. 1372 02:40:45.130 --> 02:40:46.770 sean obrien: I yield my time. Thank you. 1373 02:40:50.280 --> 02:40:53.850 robertthibodeau: Okay. So that's the comments. 1374 02:40:54.010 --> 02:41:01.400 robertthibodeau: And so to Chris L. We've taken this up before 1375 02:41:02.560 --> 02:41:11.240 robertthibodeau: in in kind of different forms on the parking and transportation. I haven't been on for as long as a couple of the people here, but I've been on for a while. 1376 02:41:11.560 --> 02:41:12.980 robertthibodeau: and 1377 02:41:14.640 --> 02:41:19.680 robertthibodeau: a lot of it had to do with the way the Council district was run previously. 1378 02:41:20.490 --> 02:41:27.510 robertthibodeau: So a lot of the Enforcement questions that you had had to do with the policies that 1379 02:41:27.590 --> 02:41:28.730 robertthibodeau: previous 1380 02:41:31.500 --> 02:41:33.790 robertthibodeau: city counselor 1381 02:41:33.920 --> 02:41:39.160 robertthibodeau: had in place, as far as Enforcement. I do expect at 1382 02:41:39.230 --> 02:41:44.100 robertthibodeau: some of that to be changing now with the new Council office in 1383 02:41:45.220 --> 02:41:57.140 robertthibodeau: as far as getting the signs up. It is my understanding that that does come through the Council Office, and a recommendation from the Council Office 1384 02:41:57.360 --> 02:42:04.350 robertthibodeau: to led ot to install the signage, and that's how it gets done. That's I'm pretty sure about that one. 1385 02:42:05.070 --> 02:42:09.260 robertthibodeau: So the gentleman who was on the call earlier. 1386 02:42:09.310 --> 02:42:12.510 robertthibodeau: Jeff, who, I don't think is on any more. 1387 02:42:12.550 --> 02:42:16.180 robertthibodeau: would be a very good person to 1388 02:42:16.540 --> 02:42:27.820 robertthibodeau: to contact if the paperwork was already in place, say, on your block or the neighboring block. I didn't quite catch which one you said I, I do know phonets it very well. I live fairly close by. 1389 02:42:28.260 --> 02:42:32.780 robertthibodeau: so I think those are the points, and i'm happy to 1390 02:42:32.860 --> 02:42:33.790 robertthibodeau: It's 1391 02:42:33.920 --> 02:42:43.010 robertthibodeau: Jeff Cow. Kh: a. You, Jeff, is just jeff@lacity.org, and you're welcome to email me. My 1392 02:42:43.020 --> 02:42:46.140 robertthibodeau: email address, I believe, is in the 1393 02:42:48.090 --> 02:42:49.720 robertthibodeau: in the 1394 02:42:49.850 --> 02:42:58.880 robertthibodeau: agenda thing. If it's not, it's Robert Tibeto. That's th I dod ea you at 1395 02:42:58.950 --> 02:43:01.680 robertthibodeau: Venice nc.org. 1396 02:43:02.160 --> 02:43:11.950 robertthibodeau: and i'm happy to give you a hand with that No guarantees You're not the only one, but i'm happy to kind of help you with that. 1397 02:43:12.590 --> 02:43:18.390 robertthibodeau: And then I think there was a question for Mark from 1398 02:43:18.700 --> 02:43:30.080 robertthibodeau: Steve Bradbury regarding and and frankly, i'm going to add to that mark. I think this would be a good motion to have a little map attached to it. 1399 02:43:30.100 --> 02:43:30.790 robertthibodeau: but 1400 02:43:30.960 --> 02:43:34.820 robertthibodeau: that said it's not there right now. But. 1401 02:43:35.110 --> 02:43:44.430 robertthibodeau: boy, it would be nice if you had a little boundary map of where you're proposing all this stuff, I mean. I understood it verbally, but you can see verbal stuff gets confused real fast. 1402 02:43:44.840 --> 02:43:46.750 robertthibodeau: So let's get Mark on here 1403 02:43:47.220 --> 02:43:49.390 robertthibodeau: to answer Steve's question. Yep. 1404 02:43:49.850 --> 02:43:52.900 robertthibodeau: Have you unmuted me? You are unmuted. 1405 02:43:53.050 --> 02:43:54.670 Mark Ryavec: Okay. 1406 02:43:56.860 --> 02:43:59.700 Mark Ryavec: First of all, let's do with the 1407 02:44:00.330 --> 02:44:03.890 Mark Ryavec: boundaries. It includes the Oxford Oxford triangle. 1408 02:44:04.190 --> 02:44:08.260 Mark Ryavec: and some of those summer. All of those trees have the signage. 1409 02:44:08.530 --> 02:44:13.340 Mark Ryavec: and it also includes the the peninsula. 1410 02:44:13.870 --> 02:44:18.660 Mark Ryavec: and I believe some of those streets out there have the signage. 1411 02:44:20.500 --> 02:44:22.460 Mark Ryavec: That's the so. 1412 02:44:23.710 --> 02:44:28.280 Mark Ryavec: Is there a map or something of the it's just the 1413 02:44:28.500 --> 02:44:35.410 Mark Ryavec: everything that's the city of La West of Lincoln. so that includes Oxford Triangle. That includes the 1414 02:44:35.470 --> 02:44:40.730 Mark Ryavec: both sides of the the Peninsula, so it doesn't include any of these Venice 1415 02:44:41.360 --> 02:44:45.110 Mark Ryavec: It doesn't. It did not include any of these Venice 1416 02:44:45.200 --> 02:44:50.440 Mark Ryavec: at that time. and i'm trying to remember why 1417 02:44:50.840 --> 02:44:54.790 Mark Ryavec: they didn't include East Venice. 1418 02:44:55.330 --> 02:44:59.540 Nico Ruderman: What was what was it? Because they did it. It didn't involve coastal. 1419 02:45:00.960 --> 02:45:09.000 Mark Ryavec: This didn't go to coastal it's coastal toll Rosen doll will let you do this without getting the coastal. Permit so it wasn't that issue. 1420 02:45:09.160 --> 02:45:18.400 Mark Ryavec: I i'm not sure. I can remember why it is that it was limited to Lincoln. but the other issue is enforcement 1421 02:45:19.000 --> 02:45:31.260 Mark Ryavec: during the pandemic, as we all know, they roll back any enforcement of any parking regulations anywhere. and also, if there was a perception that the vehicle was being lived in. 1422 02:45:31.330 --> 02:45:39.390 Mark Ryavec: they would not enforce any parking restrictions. That was that has been listed, lifted for some time now. 1423 02:45:40.150 --> 02:45:47.870 Mark Ryavec: but in the but i'm. My understanding is that both Steve Eagman, activist, attorney, and Carol soble. 1424 02:45:47.880 --> 02:45:49.080 Mark Ryavec: have brought 1425 02:45:49.090 --> 02:45:52.440 Mark Ryavec: a lawsuit about 1426 02:45:52.740 --> 02:45:59.360 Mark Ryavec: the City's attempt to enforce rules along Jefferson in Byona 1427 02:45:59.940 --> 02:46:06.340 Mark Ryavec: and under the previous city attorney, and now under the current city attorney. 1428 02:46:06.570 --> 02:46:09.400 Mark Ryavec: to sort of firm up 1429 02:46:09.640 --> 02:46:15.850 Mark Ryavec: there legal posture. They are in the process of coming up with 1430 02:46:15.920 --> 02:46:19.870 Mark Ryavec: that about how they go about 1431 02:46:19.970 --> 02:46:21.170 Mark Ryavec: citing. 1432 02:46:21.530 --> 02:46:24.450 Mark Ryavec: and then eventually towing 1433 02:46:24.740 --> 02:46:26.140 Mark Ryavec: such vehicles. 1434 02:46:26.510 --> 02:46:34.630 Mark Ryavec: And I had this discussion and and it and, Robert, I appreciate that you think that Mr. Cow is the one to contact, but he's not. 1435 02:46:34.650 --> 02:46:40.850 Mark Ryavec: It's Gabriel Medina, the district director, and she's the one that's handling 1436 02:46:40.940 --> 02:46:42.290 Mark Ryavec: any of these 1437 02:46:42.400 --> 02:46:43.130 robertthibodeau: got it 1438 02:46:43.360 --> 02:46:47.040 Mark Ryavec: opio issues. and 1439 02:46:48.950 --> 02:46:52.160 Mark Ryavec: initially, because I have a lot just like 1440 02:46:52.550 --> 02:47:01.140 Mark Ryavec: one of our speakers, has has a live petition for the 300 block 1441 02:47:01.190 --> 02:47:07.520 Mark Ryavec: of Main Street. It Google, on one side and the parking lot on the other. 1442 02:47:09.320 --> 02:47:11.600 Mark Ryavec: and we submitted that 1443 02:47:12.040 --> 02:47:14.460 Mark Ryavec: to Bonn over 2 years ago. 1444 02:47:14.580 --> 02:47:17.680 Mark Ryavec: along with Mr. Murray, is getting the Dnc. To pass 1445 02:47:19.360 --> 02:47:26.950 Mark Ryavec: it a motion calling for the in the installation of the signage on that 300 block. 1446 02:47:27.560 --> 02:47:40.440 Mark Ryavec: and you bought, and you know, simply would not act on it, and what i'm think I'm hearing from the other speaker was that other petitions were 5, were filed out regarding other 1447 02:47:40.500 --> 02:47:41.460 Mark Ryavec: blocks. 1448 02:47:41.640 --> 02:47:45.650 Mark Ryavec: and he just sat on them. So I would suggest that you 1449 02:47:47.100 --> 02:47:52.020 Mark Ryavec: it contact Ms. Medina, and send her an 1450 02:47:52.650 --> 02:47:55.340 Mark Ryavec: another copy of the petition. 1451 02:47:55.620 --> 02:48:06.900 Mark Ryavec: because she agreed that even though enforcement is going to lag while these protocols for enforcement are being developed, and eventually passed 1452 02:48:07.630 --> 02:48:09.560 Mark Ryavec: the process of getting the 1453 02:48:10.180 --> 02:48:14.930 Mark Ryavec: letters to the Council and approved, and the dot. 1454 02:48:15.100 --> 02:48:17.590 Mark Ryavec: and then getting the signs made 1455 02:48:17.750 --> 02:48:23.640 Mark Ryavec: and getting them scheduled, is going to lag to, so they might as well move in parallel. 1456 02:48:24.590 --> 02:48:25.620 Mark Ryavec: so that 1457 02:48:25.740 --> 02:48:32.440 Mark Ryavec: and the same. With this. We might as well pass this now, so that when the city sorts out 1458 02:48:32.510 --> 02:48:35.190 Mark Ryavec: protocol about how they're going to enforce it. 1459 02:48:35.540 --> 02:48:38.220 Mark Ryavec: this will have passed. 1460 02:48:38.490 --> 02:48:47.890 Mark Ryavec: and we would have expressed our desire that all of these additional blocks get the signage. Now, did I miss anything? 1461 02:48:49.370 --> 02:48:52.190 robertthibodeau: Okay, Sounds good. Let's 1462 02:48:52.220 --> 02:48:53.670 robertthibodeau: Nico Scott is 1463 02:48:54.150 --> 02:48:57.450 jim murez: Robert? Can I Can I interrupt in here for 1 s? 1464 02:48:57.500 --> 02:49:13.110 jim murez: Yeah, Mark, i'm glad you brought up the 300 block. But I think that you know, because we're talking about perhaps literally hundreds of sides, that I would like to see a map because you describe, including the Peninsula. But you left out the part of the adultery. 1465 02:49:13.290 --> 02:49:26.170 jim murez: And that's also part of the peninsula of the people on the east side of the Grand Canal. Jim, can you hear me. Yeah, I can hear you. Yeah, I i'm gonna go back and just simply look at the original 1466 02:49:26.290 --> 02:49:29.260 Mark Ryavec: ordinance which is cited. 1467 02:49:29.810 --> 02:49:36.830 Nico Ruderman: and I will simply create a a a 1468 02:49:37.040 --> 02:49:38.210 Mark Ryavec: off of 1469 02:49:38.310 --> 02:49:41.090 Mark Ryavec: what the the ordinance is. Description of 1470 02:49:41.110 --> 02:49:42.000 Mark Ryavec: the 1471 02:49:42.250 --> 02:49:45.210 Mark Ryavec: boundaries of the districts 1472 02:49:45.580 --> 02:50:00.750 Mark Ryavec: of the of the district that is affected by this I'm. Happy to provide a map. I think, Mark, that would be perfect, because I think by the time it gets to the board, like Robert, said, the the visual understanding would be great if there was just highlighted which this is the area, and it would show the entire perimeter. 1473 02:50:00.790 --> 02:50:20.020 jim murez: but also along the the lines of what Shawn and I believe Robin said about signs. If we're going to be putting up hundreds of these signs, why Don't, we do what the other cities have done. I mean, I think, that you You made it very clear that there are at least 5 other cities around us that have all put up the signs at the perimeter. 1474 02:50:20.260 --> 02:50:26.820 jim murez: and I don't understand, and and Jim. When I ran for City Council 5 years ago, I proposed that 1475 02:50:26.880 --> 02:50:33.370 Mark Ryavec: any city council, any any neighborhood Council district could could 1476 02:50:33.610 --> 02:50:38.260 Mark Ryavec: pass an, or we would pass an ordinance that any city, any neighborhood council 1477 02:50:38.740 --> 02:50:41.260 Mark Ryavec: district could 1478 02:50:41.980 --> 02:50:46.320 Mark Ryavec: declare their areas a non Rv. 1479 02:50:46.740 --> 02:50:47.620 Mark Ryavec: None 1480 02:50:48.140 --> 02:50:55.530 Mark Ryavec: commercial vehicle area. So I mean I I i'm happy to go there with you. But why do we start with this? 1481 02:50:55.590 --> 02:51:00.830 jim murez: Yeah. No, I'm not. I I think you're I think you're missing my point. Instead of 1482 02:51:01.310 --> 02:51:08.330 jim murez: asking them to post signs on every single block at the beginning and the end of each side of each street. 1483 02:51:08.950 --> 02:51:18.500 jim murez: What if we just put them in? All of the entry points to the region that you're talking about? It'd be fewer signs, and it would be a lot less visual blight. 1484 02:51:19.680 --> 02:51:30.130 Nico Ruderman: I'm gonna jump in real quick. I I I think part of the issue is is that this this ordinance is already in place, the calling for these signs, and that that that will require 1485 02:51:30.240 --> 02:51:31.830 Nico Ruderman: further. 1486 02:51:32.280 --> 02:51:40.200 Mark Ryavec: Yeah, I have the same concern, Nico. This might, this might trigger, you know, in Malibu when they were trying. They've been trying to 1487 02:51:40.440 --> 02:51:43.370 Mark Ryavec: do this in a few locations 1488 02:51:43.410 --> 02:51:51.210 Mark Ryavec: the issue of weather, coastal approval. A. Cdp. Would be necessary, because it affects access to water. 1489 02:51:51.750 --> 02:51:54.640 Mark Ryavec: So we already have our ordinance. 1490 02:51:54.650 --> 02:51:56.940 Mark Ryavec: and I would ride the horse that we have. 1491 02:51:57.370 --> 02:52:04.110 Mark Ryavec: and I suppose, and then later we can bring it. Come in and suggest that. Oh, well, why don't? We just 1492 02:52:04.650 --> 02:52:15.500 Mark Ryavec: put signs up at the entrances. Sounds good. Get rid of the rest of them. But I I think you need to move in incrementally. Do not do anything that's going to trigger 1493 02:52:15.590 --> 02:52:30.310 jim murez: The Coastal commission's involvement in this. Alright, Robert passes, if you could include the Link to the Ordinance, and also the link to the map that he's going to make when you submit the agenda, request that'd be helpful. 1494 02:52:30.710 --> 02:52:36.510 Nico Ruderman: Yeah. And the the ordinance was was included with this, and it's it's on it's on the current agenda for tonight 1495 02:52:36.640 --> 02:52:48.170 robertthibodeau: I I I will add, I mean, I I agree about briefly, okay, because I want to wrap this one up so I'll I'll I'll be in real brief. But I just want to ask a couple of questions that Weren't answered. 1496 02:52:49.220 --> 02:52:55.010 Nico Ruderman: Well, first of all, I agree with the issue about signs, but i'd rather have a sign than an Rv. In front of my house. 1497 02:52:56.780 --> 02:53:00.450 Nico Ruderman: But there was one other question that Wasn't answered. 1498 02:53:01.220 --> 02:53:04.440 1310****690: Can I jump in for a real quick? This is Yolanda 1499 02:53:06.340 --> 02:53:07.450 robertthibodeau: real quick. 1500 02:53:08.230 --> 02:53:20.620 1310****690: real quick. I had a problem with dumping here in my on on our alley. and I requested, if I may have permission, to make a sign with the ordinance that the city has on no dumping. 1501 02:53:20.760 --> 02:53:31.210 and if we manage to get that permission we can go ahead and do the signs ourselves, and it's very inexpensive if you want them immediately. We just have to get that permission. Thank you. 1502 02:53:35.440 --> 02:53:47.860 Nico Ruderman: Nico. Did you have a thought? No, I I feel like. There was some questions that Weren't answered. But I i'm not sure it even really matters at this point. So let's move to board, comment, and then we'll committee comment. Excuse me. 1503 02:53:48.160 --> 02:53:51.320 robertthibodeau: committee comment, and then vote so committee 1504 02:53:51.470 --> 02:53:54.420 Evan Corrigan: and I sh them in real quick. 1505 02:53:55.380 --> 02:54:00.440 Evan Corrigan: so i'm not as familiar with the Soviet thing. But I've heard. 1506 02:54:00.490 --> 02:54:10.310 Evan Corrigan: you know, stories from my neighbors. Why wouldn't this include East Venice? Because if Rvs were theoretically banned from everything west of Lincoln. 1507 02:54:10.600 --> 02:54:14.160 Evan Corrigan: they would just move right across Lincoln to East Venice. 1508 02:54:17.950 --> 02:54:20.210 Evan Corrigan: That's a question. 1509 02:54:20.230 --> 02:54:22.790 Mark Ryavec: I I actually don't remember, but 1510 02:54:22.880 --> 02:54:24.130 Mark Ryavec: I believe that 1511 02:54:24.500 --> 02:54:35.910 Mark Ryavec: there is signage along rows that currently makes it illegal to Park Rvs and campers there, and I think they have their own ordinance. 1512 02:54:36.690 --> 02:54:39.120 Mark Ryavec: That's my My only 1513 02:54:39.560 --> 02:54:43.280 Mark Ryavec: comment is that they're currently banned. For example. 1514 02:54:43.490 --> 02:54:44.590 Mark Ryavec: on Rose. 1515 02:54:45.370 --> 02:54:46.530 Nico Ruderman: Yeah, I 1516 02:54:47.080 --> 02:54:52.480 Mark Ryavec: and they may also. They may be operating under a separate 1517 02:54:52.590 --> 02:54:53.720 Mark Ryavec: ordinance 1518 02:54:54.160 --> 02:54:59.790 Mark Ryavec: that may even predate ours. I mean, it's not like we're the only ones in the city. 1519 02:54:59.970 --> 02:55:10.840 robertthibodeau: Brentwood has one. San Pedro has one, I mean lots of parts of the city, but some have them that we're we're on board comment. So it's tick to board from it. 1520 02:55:13.360 --> 02:55:14.900 Evan Corrigan: So 1521 02:55:15.350 --> 02:55:19.410 Evan Corrigan: I mean just from walking around and stuff, you know. Not. Every street 1522 02:55:19.660 --> 02:55:31.440 Evan Corrigan: has them. I mean, there's a few. I don't even know if Rose have them. so wouldn't it make sense. This is a Venice ovo like not to divide it by sub neighborhoods of Venice 1523 02:55:32.240 --> 02:55:41.850 robertthibodeau: it it would. But the problem, the problem is is that the the motion is based on enforcing an existing motion from 1010 or like 1524 02:55:41.860 --> 02:55:48.170 robertthibodeau: 13 years ago. and what you're talking about is essentially a new motion. 1525 02:55:48.220 --> 02:55:57.620 robertthibodeau: and I think that's the proxy that no one's trying to leave you guys out or me out east of Lincoln. 1526 02:55:58.210 --> 02:56:06.130 robertthibodeau: and, believe me. you know, the first thing i'm thinking is all the campers on the west side of Lincoln now moved to the east side of Lincoln. But 1527 02:56:06.910 --> 02:56:12.410 robertthibodeau: maybe some progress is better than no progress, and 1528 02:56:13.460 --> 02:56:22.050 robertthibodeau: the way that Mark put this together is based on an existing motion that, unfortunately for east of Lincoln Doesn't, include it east of Lincoln, and 1529 02:56:23.660 --> 02:56:26.130 robertthibodeau: you can't change a 13 year old motion. 1530 02:56:26.970 --> 02:56:32.760 robertthibodeau: Excuse me. A motion motion based on an Audience. 1531 02:56:33.980 --> 02:56:37.510 robertthibodeau: Okay. again. I'm. 1532 02:56:39.010 --> 02:56:41.110 robertthibodeau: Yeah, there we go. 1533 02:56:41.850 --> 02:56:44.020 robertthibodeau: Okido. So we got Elizabeth. 1534 02:56:45.960 --> 02:56:56.970 Elizabeth C.: Yeah. So as someone who had to who fought through one of these signs a few years ago, when I lived east of Lincoln. No, not every. It goes straight by street. 1535 02:56:57.070 --> 02:57:05.130 Elizabeth C.: and it took me the better part of 10 months, and that was in the good old days when they actually listen to us. 1536 02:57:05.230 --> 02:57:09.970 Elizabeth C.: And still 10 months of like constant phone calls and fighting to get one street 1537 02:57:09.990 --> 02:57:15.820 Elizabeth C.: with the signage. So, after speaking with with 1538 02:57:16.600 --> 02:57:20.860 Elizabeth C.: District 11 office, I know that they're really not in favor of 1539 02:57:20.890 --> 02:57:26.580 Elizabeth C.: huge swaths like huge areas where we just say, like all of Venice, or 1540 02:57:26.700 --> 02:57:30.810 Elizabeth C.: you know, Solidar is looking at creating an entire area. 1541 02:57:30.990 --> 02:57:40.180 Elizabeth C.: because that would be be lovely for everyone involved. But it doesn't seem like District 11 is going to embrace that concept. So I don't think we should. 1542 02:57:40.580 --> 02:57:53.010 Elizabeth C.: if we want success, go for these large swaths with. I think you can have to go straight by street or neighborhood by neighborhood. It it's still a touchy issue because 1543 02:57:54.060 --> 02:57:59.400 Elizabeth C.: they're still we're in the juggling act of playing whack-mole, and 1544 02:57:59.970 --> 02:58:02.930 Elizabeth C.: the sort of the advice I got was 1545 02:58:03.100 --> 02:58:12.570 Elizabeth C.: that they're still looking at. How to just using Jefferson as an example. Do they have the power to move them out of there they do. 1546 02:58:12.690 --> 02:58:17.310 Elizabeth C.: but they don't want to see them just like land in Venice and 1547 02:58:17.610 --> 02:58:19.640 Elizabeth C.: populate the neighborhoods of Venice. 1548 02:58:19.830 --> 02:58:22.290 Elizabeth C.: So until there's 1549 02:58:22.470 --> 02:58:24.870 Elizabeth C.: greater city acceptance 1550 02:58:25.320 --> 02:58:29.220 Elizabeth C.: to house these vehicles, and it's certainly not. 1551 02:58:29.280 --> 02:58:37.060 Elizabeth C.: It's not coming from the toe lots because they don't want them. They want the city to indemnify them. The sea is not 1552 02:58:37.350 --> 02:58:46.230 Elizabeth C.: not bending to that, and Karen Bass is. This is not a high on her list of things to do, and right now she wants to 1553 02:58:46.500 --> 02:58:54.200 Elizabeth C.: get units, and and you know we're even in jeopardy on that, because if bridge housing 1554 02:58:54.790 --> 02:59:07.880 Elizabeth C.: it, you know, if if we lose as much as we don't. Like the bridge housing, it might be the lesser of 2 evils, because if we lose it, then we fall below our our unit requirement. We've got nowhere 1555 02:59:08.200 --> 02:59:12.070 Elizabeth C.: to tell these Rv. Dwellers that they can go so 1556 02:59:12.340 --> 02:59:18.010 Elizabeth C.: it's really a catch 22, and I think if we go too big on it. We're we're not going to get it. 1557 02:59:18.030 --> 02:59:21.020 Elizabeth C.: and it's sadly. It's still a street by street thing. 1558 02:59:21.040 --> 02:59:22.280 Elizabeth C.: I'll leave it at that. 1559 02:59:30.070 --> 02:59:33.850 sean obrien: Okay. 1560 02:59:41.030 --> 02:59:43.600 robertthibodeau: So we're going to lower your hand. 1561 02:59:44.320 --> 02:59:49.540 robertthibodeau: Evan. Your hand is still up. Do you want to say something? 1562 02:59:49.800 --> 02:59:51.600 Evan Corrigan: I lowered it. 1563 02:59:53.470 --> 03:00:02.040 robertthibodeau: Did Jim speak on this? He did he did. But if he wants to talk again, let's let him talk again, and then let's take a boat. 1564 03:00:05.070 --> 03:00:07.170 jim murez: No, i'm sorry. I just forgot to lower my hand. 1565 03:00:08.070 --> 03:00:09.100 robertthibodeau: Okay. 1566 03:00:09.280 --> 03:00:13.260 robertthibodeau: So we have a motion in front of us. We have second. 1567 03:00:13.350 --> 03:00:14.750 robertthibodeau: And 1568 03:00:16.940 --> 03:00:21.870 robertthibodeau: shall we start with? Start with Elizabeth this time? 1569 03:00:28.660 --> 03:00:31.860 Elizabeth C.: I'm gonna do it. Come back to me in 30 s. 1570 03:00:31.930 --> 03:00:33.400 robertthibodeau: Let's go to Allison 1571 03:00:37.260 --> 03:00:38.820 robertthibodeau: Allison. How do you vote? 1572 03:00:40.480 --> 03:00:43.530 Alyson Wilson: Yes, in favor? Sorry I was muted again. 1573 03:00:43.650 --> 03:00:45.280 robertthibodeau: Selena. How do you both? 1574 03:00:46.610 --> 03:00:47.630 Selena Inouye: Yes. 1575 03:00:48.440 --> 03:00:49.750 robertthibodeau: Evan, how do you go? 1576 03:00:50.110 --> 03:00:54.980 Evan Corrigan: I'm gonna vote based on Elizabeth points and no. 1577 03:00:57.590 --> 03:01:02.240 robertthibodeau: and i'm going to vote. Yes. 1578 03:01:04.180 --> 03:01:06.410 robertthibodeau: and Elizabeth back to you. 1579 03:01:12.100 --> 03:01:14.850 Elizabeth C.: I wish I didn't know the reality. I'm going to vote. No. 1580 03:01:18.150 --> 03:01:20.130 robertthibodeau: Okay. So we've got a 1581 03:01:20.260 --> 03:01:23.160 robertthibodeau: 3 to 2 to 0 vote. 1582 03:01:24.530 --> 03:01:27.100 robertthibodeau: But and 1583 03:01:27.450 --> 03:01:32.970 robertthibodeau: mark, if you could send us some map, so we can include it with the 1584 03:01:33.840 --> 03:01:41.460 robertthibodeau: with the we already have the Council file up on the Ptc. Site, but i'll forward it to Jim 1585 03:01:41.720 --> 03:01:46.950 robertthibodeau: as well, and if you could port us the map that goes along with this that would be appreciated. 1586 03:01:49.160 --> 03:01:55.940 Alyson Wilson: Okay. So we're transitioning you guys, I've looked through my emails. We started working on this in 2,008. 1587 03:01:56.450 --> 03:02:00.250 Alyson Wilson: It's been a long conversation 1588 03:02:00.380 --> 03:02:02.270 robertthibodeau: crazy. 1589 03:02:02.450 --> 03:02:08.030 Evan Corrigan: Yeah, I honestly can't speak to this. I've been here. you know. I know it's been going on forever. 1590 03:02:08.050 --> 03:02:09.000 robertthibodeau: And yeah. 1591 03:02:11.350 --> 03:02:13.250 Evan Corrigan: okay, Shall we 1592 03:02:13.340 --> 03:02:18.650 Evan Corrigan: move on to the resolution to enforce existing opioids? 1593 03:02:21.320 --> 03:02:22.870 robertthibodeau: That is 1594 03:02:25.160 --> 03:02:26.520 robertthibodeau: 11 right 1595 03:02:26.860 --> 03:02:39.620 Evan Corrigan: 10. Sorry i'm sorry I wrote that down in the world one. I think we can probably get through this quick. Therefore the Vnc. Request that the Office Council Office either directs parking enforcement 1596 03:02:39.810 --> 03:02:44.960 Evan Corrigan: to enforce opio signs within the Venice. It's in Venice. During the 2 h 1597 03:02:45.120 --> 03:02:52.850 Evan Corrigan: the hours of 2 am. To 6 am. Without the need of residents to call in, or to allow stickers holders to call outside 1598 03:02:52.870 --> 03:02:56.680 Evan Corrigan: of the Enforcement hours to request enforcement during Enforcement hours. 1599 03:02:58.140 --> 03:02:59.540 Evan Corrigan: so 1600 03:03:01.460 --> 03:03:02.700 Evan Corrigan: I guess 1601 03:03:03.010 --> 03:03:08.280 Evan Corrigan: Mark or Nico can chime in on this. But I think from the description 1602 03:03:08.640 --> 03:03:12.230 Evan Corrigan: and the motion we couldn't get the gist of it. 1603 03:03:12.650 --> 03:03:16.520 Nico Ruderman: Yeah, I I I can. I can summarize it in about a minute. 1604 03:03:17.830 --> 03:03:27.030 Nico Ruderman: Basically, you know, it takes a lot of work to get these signs up, as we all know, and I've been through it myself through several blocks. One of the blocks it took me actually 2 years. 1605 03:03:27.230 --> 03:03:33.300 Nico Ruderman: Another block was. I was actually told by Taylor from Bonnet's office 1606 03:03:33.580 --> 03:03:41.640 Nico Ruderman: that since several of that buildings were abandoned, that he would just do it. But then, a week later, he left the office. 1607 03:03:41.790 --> 03:03:48.790 Nico Ruderman: and I followed up, and and all of the conversations I got from, I guess, is kind of off topic, but from Bonnet's office, where they were no longer 1608 03:03:48.820 --> 03:03:50.250 Nico Ruderman: putting these signs up. 1609 03:03:50.560 --> 03:03:54.930 Nico Ruderman: which I think is why a lot of people never had their petitions looked at. 1610 03:03:55.200 --> 03:04:07.190 Nico Ruderman: But but basically I I think it was Shawn who spoke earlier on this. That's you know. You have to set your line for 2 am. If if if you want this enforced, they're not doing it on their own. 1611 03:04:07.330 --> 03:04:20.480 Nico Ruderman: I've I've asked. I've I've called outside of ours myself and said, hey, I don't want to wake up at 2. Am. Can Can you just send somebody at 2? Am I'm sure this this vehicle, this you know, you hall truck, or whatever it is, will still be there. 1612 03:04:20.590 --> 03:04:22.910 Nico Ruderman: and I'm. I'm. Told No. 1613 03:04:22.950 --> 03:04:29.550 Nico Ruderman: So basically this is. you know, these signs are there the laws there it shouldn't be on stakeholders to 1614 03:04:29.930 --> 03:04:35.970 Nico Ruderman: be enforcing them to setting an alarms to 2 am. To waking up it. It should just be enforced. 1615 03:04:36.920 --> 03:04:43.320 Nico Ruderman: That's that's basically all there is just asking for enforcement on existing signs and future signs. 1616 03:04:45.140 --> 03:04:54.480 robertthibodeau: Okay, Thank you, Nico. Do we actually have a maker of this motion? And do we have a second? Yeah, I'll make it. We have a second. 1617 03:04:58.190 --> 03:04:59.450 Evan Corrigan: so in it. 1618 03:05:00.030 --> 03:05:11.900 Evan Corrigan: and could we clarify on item on motion? 11. Who is the maker? I'm sorry we're doing this. But can I back up and say, who is the maker on that one 1619 03:05:12.920 --> 03:05:15.830 Evan Corrigan: also, Robert, I I haven't taken the notes 1620 03:05:16.870 --> 03:05:25.970 jim murez: as we go. You fix the the motion that you're working on now to read in the objective of of the 1621 03:05:26.100 --> 03:05:28.470 jim murez: of of the Vnc. Board of Officers. 1622 03:05:30.850 --> 03:05:31.620 jim murez: Thank you. 1623 03:05:31.760 --> 03:05:32.460 Evan Corrigan: Yeah. 1624 03:05:32.730 --> 03:05:38.850 robertthibodeau: And now we've got. I I know you're taking the notes, but we've got Selena seconding it. And who made it? 1625 03:05:42.440 --> 03:05:45.240 Evan Corrigan: I made it and send me a second a bit. 1626 03:05:45.290 --> 03:05:46.000 robertthibodeau: Okay. 1627 03:05:50.380 --> 03:05:53.550 robertthibodeau: Okay, i'm sorry. Just bookkeeping 1628 03:05:54.710 --> 03:05:56.740 robertthibodeau: and public comment. 1629 03:05:59.340 --> 03:06:06.000 robertthibodeau: Robin, let's keep it reasonably brief, please. It's getting late, Robin. 1630 03:06:09.880 --> 03:06:14.290 Robin Murez: One thing is, I think Yolanda may have the answer here that 1631 03:06:14.440 --> 03:06:18.760 Robin Murez: those who want should just go out and make some signs and put them up 1632 03:06:19.000 --> 03:06:27.080 Robin Murez: and see if that can help and help it, because I've seen that work in other places. Secondly. 1633 03:06:27.140 --> 03:06:38.380 Robin Murez: I've heard inside Tracy's office that just like she was able to get Karen Bass to have Venice be the first for her inside out, program whatever that was called. 1634 03:06:38.560 --> 03:06:43.620 Robin Murez: They are hoping to have Karen Bass Have Venice be the first for 1635 03:06:43.740 --> 03:06:49.630 Robin Murez: getting rid of the Rvs. So that's all I have to say 1636 03:06:52.590 --> 03:06:53.590 robertthibodeau: thank you 1637 03:06:54.620 --> 03:06:57.000 robertthibodeau: and more public comment Any 1638 03:06:57.160 --> 03:07:00.290 robertthibodeau: we do have another hand up, Yolanda. 1639 03:07:01.930 --> 03:07:03.120 real quick. 1640 03:07:07.520 --> 03:07:24.040 1310****690: I think we lost you. You've lost you, you you you. You You hear me now. Oh, here we go. Listen, you guys, I have 2 h parking here in in in front of my house, and i'm telling you something is working because the minute they park here they're gone. Okay. So 1641 03:07:24.290 --> 03:07:28.890 1310****690: it depends on on on the on the attitude of the stakeholders. 1642 03:07:29.510 --> 03:07:45.990 1310****690: I know there is a need for them to go somewhere, but we've got to find a place, but they're not going to Park in front of my house because they have defecated. There's there's stuff right here in front of my house, and I have to go out and clean it, and the smell is awful. But we just need to keep our community clean and safe again. Thank you. 1643 03:07:46.440 --> 03:07:50.570 robertthibodeau: Thank you, Yolanda. you know. Lower your hand. 1644 03:07:53.410 --> 03:07:56.200 robertthibodeau: We have one more hand up and try and find it. 1645 03:07:56.810 --> 03:07:57.660 robertthibodeau: Shawn 1646 03:07:58.720 --> 03:08:00.800 robertthibodeau: Oops allowed to talk. Shawn. 1647 03:08:02.050 --> 03:08:03.330 robertthibodeau: You are on Shawn. 1648 03:08:03.370 --> 03:08:04.930 sean obrien: hey? Thanks. So 1649 03:08:05.000 --> 03:08:24.660 sean obrien: yeah again, it's all that location, you know. Are you gonna be in Hawthorne and park your Rb. Or do you choose to be in Venice? Of course they're gonna be in Venice. It's close to the beach. You can. You can hustle the tourist. What? What? Not. I agree with Nico, Nico said it be 1650 03:08:24.710 --> 03:08:33.780 sean obrien: it's ridiculous. I I've done it. I've done it. I've woken up at 2 in the morning for for a week. 1651 03:08:33.920 --> 03:08:40.500 sean obrien: 2 weeks to you know, and then, you know, before lap you used to come out and address it. 1652 03:08:40.670 --> 03:08:47.810 sean obrien: and then when that stopped, then it had to be tickets. So they had to approve a bunch of tickets. 1653 03:08:47.860 --> 03:08:51.150 sean obrien: So yeah, it was insane. And 1654 03:08:51.290 --> 03:08:52.530 sean obrien: all 1655 03:08:52.710 --> 03:08:55.790 sean obrien: this whole ordinance was back passwords 1656 03:08:55.900 --> 03:09:03.590 sean obrien: in the fact that they, the people who wanted to have in our view park on the street, they should have petitioned us. 1657 03:09:03.620 --> 03:09:05.220 sean obrien: saying, Can I Park here? 1658 03:09:05.300 --> 03:09:14.970 sean obrien: So it's like completely ridiculous that we got a petition to get them when we don't want them? But anyways, regardless of that. I know it's late. 1659 03:09:15.060 --> 03:09:20.630 sean obrien: I support the motion. Nico said it. This for me. Please help us. Thank you. 1660 03:09:25.710 --> 03:09:30.910 Evan Corrigan: Okay, I think that's it for public comment 1661 03:09:34.260 --> 03:09:36.140 robertthibodeau: Board. Comment: Anybody. 1662 03:09:36.940 --> 03:09:38.890 robertthibodeau: Shawn, I'm gonna take your hand down. 1663 03:09:41.740 --> 03:09:42.500 That's good. 1664 03:09:43.330 --> 03:09:44.990 Evan Corrigan: Elizabeth. 1665 03:09:45.940 --> 03:09:49.340 Elizabeth C.: I'll just go back to enforcement. So 1666 03:09:49.380 --> 03:09:52.220 Elizabeth C.: when there's when there's 1667 03:09:52.590 --> 03:09:53.770 Elizabeth C.: an issue 1668 03:09:53.890 --> 03:09:56.970 Elizabeth C.: of course. First thing you know it's it 1669 03:09:57.080 --> 03:10:02.860 Elizabeth C.: ticket, then toe situation. And now there's so many nonprofits paying the tickets 1670 03:10:03.020 --> 03:10:04.630 Elizabeth C.: you can. 1671 03:10:04.850 --> 03:10:16.160 Elizabeth C.: You could bring your ticket in if if if it's gonna be concerned, get get it paid off, or to the court will throw it out because they threw out about 1,500 last year. 1672 03:10:16.840 --> 03:10:24.400 Elizabeth C.: So the I don't the the issue goes deeper than than we realized, because 1673 03:10:24.460 --> 03:10:26.320 Alyson Wilson: politically the climate is 1674 03:10:26.530 --> 03:10:31.540 Elizabeth C.: changed, and I don't know. I don't know how we address that in here, but 1675 03:10:32.520 --> 03:10:37.060 Elizabeth C.: and enforcing goes beyond just putting a ticket on 1676 03:10:37.810 --> 03:10:46.610 Elizabeth C.: on a vehicle these days. And yeah, I I don't know if this can be juggled a little bit to 1677 03:10:47.720 --> 03:10:58.900 Elizabeth C.: to go deeper on the issue. I i'm i'm stymied, and it's it's another situation where, like I feel like we're writing stuff that can never happen. I'm just getting negative over the years, but 1678 03:11:00.060 --> 03:11:03.270 Elizabeth C.: someone can see a way out of this. Do you tell me. 1679 03:11:04.660 --> 03:11:09.460 Evan Corrigan: I mean, is this one of those things? Obviously 1680 03:11:09.830 --> 03:11:18.810 Evan Corrigan: it's very complicated and just people that need to be housed, and it seems like a big operation needs to happen like inside safe. 1681 03:11:19.440 --> 03:11:24.290 Evan Corrigan: but us voting to kind of send this forward kind of discussion going with the V. It. 1682 03:11:24.760 --> 03:11:27.740 Evan Corrigan: you know, getting more people involved getting the ball rolling. 1683 03:11:29.730 --> 03:11:34.050 Evan Corrigan: you know. It might be good to just start with this. 1684 03:11:34.330 --> 03:11:36.430 sean obrien: Yes, at least we're on record. 1685 03:11:36.500 --> 03:11:42.210 Elizabeth C.: Yeah, I I I don't disagree with with the intention of of it. I just wanted to 1686 03:11:42.300 --> 03:11:49.250 Elizabeth C.: want us to think as a group, that there are steps when you ask for Enforcement, and then 1687 03:11:49.750 --> 03:12:00.140 Elizabeth C.: we we need to address the block to the next step as well. You can put up all the signs you want. You can tell people to enforce, but if 1688 03:12:00.390 --> 03:12:07.040 Elizabeth C.: they literally cannot enforce, because the court system doesn't allow for it. And I talked to lapd a lot, and 1689 03:12:07.420 --> 03:12:15.450 Elizabeth C.: that's what they'll tell you that they they mostly get tossed. So just just the reality. That's that's the only reason I mentioned it. 1690 03:12:17.640 --> 03:12:23.180 Evan Corrigan: I think Nico wanted to chime in. Possibly. Does that allow? 1691 03:12:27.460 --> 03:12:28.110 Evan Corrigan: Oh. 1692 03:12:33.610 --> 03:12:36.320 Evan Corrigan: Okay, anybody else. 1693 03:12:42.180 --> 03:12:45.310 robertthibodeau: So let's put it to a vote. 1694 03:12:46.730 --> 03:12:50.510 robertthibodeau: Who wants to start Selena? 1695 03:12:52.040 --> 03:12:53.010 Selena Inouye: Yes. 1696 03:12:56.390 --> 03:12:58.220 Alyson Wilson: Allison. Yes. 1697 03:12:59.530 --> 03:13:00.480 robertthibodeau: Evan. 1698 03:13:00.620 --> 03:13:01.530 Evan Corrigan: Yes. 1699 03:13:03.510 --> 03:13:04.570 robertthibodeau: Elizabeth. 1700 03:13:04.750 --> 03:13:05.580 Elizabeth C.: yes. 1701 03:13:07.540 --> 03:13:11.560 robertthibodeau: and Robert is yes, 5 0 0, 1702 03:13:17.170 --> 03:13:27.720 robertthibodeau: Evan, you had Venice Boulevard on here as Item Number 5. Is that just a continuation from before, or was there new information on Venice Boulevard? Or did we already talk about it? 1703 03:13:27.820 --> 03:13:36.010 Evan Corrigan: No, we're just I thought Jeff, for actually would give an update on that. But maybe we just keep that on there. We'll 1704 03:13:36.310 --> 03:13:38.630 robertthibodeau: full business for considerable business. 1705 03:13:40.790 --> 03:13:45.210 robertthibodeau: One item not on the agenda is I was contacted 1706 03:13:45.460 --> 03:13:46.890 robertthibodeau: by 1707 03:13:49.070 --> 03:14:06.640 robertthibodeau: Who was it? Bureau of Engineering, and they are close to finished with their sewer upgrades in the neighborhood around Main and Pacific, so apparently they've got 2 more to do, but they're pretty much done, so they've done well on that one. So 1708 03:14:06.640 --> 03:14:12.800 robertthibodeau: and honestly, I have not seen a whole lot of traffic related 1709 03:14:14.170 --> 03:14:16.800 robertthibodeau: quandaries over there due to it. So 1710 03:14:17.140 --> 03:14:19.180 robertthibodeau: but that's all I have. 1711 03:14:20.040 --> 03:14:35.390 robertthibodeau: Shall we adjourn this meeting? Yeah. Thanks for attending everybody and sticking around. 1712 03:14:36.690 --> 03:14:38.520 Evan Corrigan: Thank you. Everyone. 1713 03:14:38.550 --> 03:14:39.530 robertthibodeau: Okay. 1714 03:14:40.070 --> 03:14:41.440 Selena Inouye: Bye, Everybody 1715 03:14:42.170 --> 03:14:43.340 Evan Corrigan: right?