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jim murez: Yup, i'm promoting you now.

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Michael Jensen: Hey, Jeremy, how are you?

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Michael Jensen: Pretty good?

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jim murez: So I think I will make you the host.

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Michael Jensen: Okay.

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jim murez: and and I don't know if i'm gonna stick around. I'm really tired. I have to get it really early in the morning.

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Michael Jensen: I get it up since 5 this morning. I'm running out of steam. How how long is your agenda tonight?

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Michael Jensen: It's

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Michael Jensen: We've got some

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Michael Jensen: to minimize cases where I go to regular cases, and then we're going to

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Michael Jensen: talk about some long term planning stuff.

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Michael Jensen: So I don't know.

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Michael Jensen: Okay.

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jim murez: What's the long term stuff?

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Michael Jensen: Oh, sorry. Public comment on the permanent Al fresco ordinance and on the Mta lot.

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Michael Jensen: But we're we're not gonna we don't have any motions. I'm: just starting the conversation.

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jim murez: Okay.

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jim murez: Connie, i'm promoting you is Danielle.

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jim murez: panel member.

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jim murez: Oh, hold on, let me pull up the list here.

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Michael Jensen: So Karen, Daniel and Daryl are not yeah, okay?

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jim murez: Yeah, because I would. I would be interested in participating in the long range stuff.

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Michael Jensen: but I don't know if i'll make it through the nice meat. Well, I think I, My plan is to have a meeting next week as well.

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jim murez: Okay.

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Michael Jensen: so they'll be in the I mean, I know that's also you have Friday farmers market. So that's maybe not helpful. No, today was the day was an extra exhausting day

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Michael Jensen: understood.

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Michael Jensen: But we may. I'll see what what's in the pipeline. But next week maybe fewer items, and dedicated more to the discussion of long term planning issues. But we're going to see we'll. We'll see how tonight goes, and

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Michael Jensen: and that all maybe gauge how much I how many other things I potentially want to put on the agenda next week.

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jim murez: Okay? Well, maybe what i'll do is I will

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jim murez: come back later. If i'm, you can also always submit your written comment

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Michael Jensen: to the it's more difficult.

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jim murez: then. It takes even more time. I have so many things I have to write up already.

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Yeah.

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Michael Jensen: I hear you is Jeff. By the way, yeah, Jeff's on the committee.

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jim murez: Jeff: i'm promoting you.

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Michael Jensen: By the way, there's a couple. I'll send you a follow up email on it. But there's a couple of President letters that I haven't gotten back from you.

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jim murez: Oh, yeah, well, I guess, because I've been so damn busy with so many other things. By the way.

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jim murez: you can already start doing live meetings. If you want, you can postpone until April.

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jim murez: But if you want to spend your meetings live, you can.

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Michael Jensen: I know and have. So

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Michael Jensen: my question is the technology for zoom or hybrid meetings.

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jim murez: We're not. That won't come until maybe in April.

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Michael Jensen: Okay? No, I've just had. I've had questions about that.

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jim murez: so as far as being able to do a hybrid meeting. I mean. One of the things that I would like to do is see what happens if if if

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you know

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jim murez: 10 people all enter a room that has Wi-fi.

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Michael Jensen: or they are all using their cell phones.

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jim murez: and everybody keeps themselves muted except for when it's their turn to talk.

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jim murez: Can you actually create a hybrid meeting that way.

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jim murez: In other words, you would both be in the same room. Everybody would have the

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Michael Jensen: Chris. If you make me the host, I'll I'll start promoting people. Okay? Well, I think everybody. I've been keeping up Chris. Chris Mclean.

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jim murez: Yeah, i'm promoting him now. Got it?

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jim murez: So the concept is really simple. Why can't you have 10 or 15 people all on zoom in the same room as long as everybody has their microphones turned off? You don't get the feedback.

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jim murez: The other thing would be that everybody would probably need to either wear your phones, or somehow, to keep the echoing.

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jim murez: and it would you turn off, you could probably turn off

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jim murez: all of the speakers except for one and plug in an external speaker to one device.

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jim murez: And then, theoretically, you could do hybrid meetings just by allowing people in the

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Michael Jensen: in in the room to all parts. Yeah, I think we have enough trouble just even with zoom and microphones

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Michael Jensen: when we're all in different rooms. But

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jim murez: well, so there is a there is a solution. We applied for funding to be able to get the equipment to do it.

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jim murez: and it's stuck in the city.

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Michael Jensen: Okay.

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jim murez: it's not. It's not a hard thing to do.

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jim murez: Everybody has to have microphones, and you have one television display

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jim murez: or 2. Then you have a camera that points to to the entire board.

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Michael Jensen: Yeah, I mean, I've been to plenty of city council meetings, not even just in La, but like

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Michael Jensen: Podunk

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jim murez: on towns, Basically, the requirement is that all of the

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jim murez: committee members

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jim murez: are on screen at the same time. And then there's another thing

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jim murez: that you know, and this is going to start happening absolutely in April.

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jim murez: that that the quorum of the committee must be present at the live meeting.

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jim murez: whether it's hybrid or strictly live. The quorum has to be at the meeting.

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jim murez: and then there's a whole bunch of other caveats that say.

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jim murez: a committee member can only miss 2 live meetings a year.

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jim murez: and this has yeah, there, this is all has to do with the Brown Act. and it hasn't been adopted yet.

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jim murez: and it's very unclear exactly how it's all gonna work out at the end of the day attendance isn't in the brown. Oh, yeah, it is actually

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Michael Jensen: you have to have the quorum of the no right. But i'm saying like absences, Anyway, Marnush is here, too. She's on the committee.

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Michael Jensen: but we don't need to get into it now. We've got plenty of other stuff to discuss in this form, so I want to get get this on the move

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jim murez: no way people are moving around. They have to sit still. Hold on.

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jim murez: Yeah, there's a whole bunch of rules. I sat through a whole meeting on it.

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jim murez: We'll get there.

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Michael Jensen: Yeah. Let me let me.

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jim murez: Yeah, You got 8. Let me promote you to a host. Do you want to have me me? Do you want me to assign a co-host

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Michael Jensen: in case I lose the Internet I mean, sure, any volunteers?

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barrycassilly: Yeah, I' to be co-host

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Michael Jensen: Sorry anyone but Perry Lauren

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Michael Jensen: do you are you on a computer, or are you on a ipad or something?

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lauren siegel: I'm on a computer?

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Michael Jensen: Do you mind being the co-host? Just in case I I don't think i'll lose Internet, but it's better to have a backup.

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lauren siegel: Sure.

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barrycassilly: Yes, we all agree with that

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jim murez: well i'll. I'll stay on his co-host. As well, but I may not stay until the end of the meeting. So

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Michael Jensen: fair enough. Okay, thanks, Jim. All right. You're You're now, host, take it away. Okay, I'm going to call this meeting to order. It is 704

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Michael Jensen: roll call Corinne

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Corinne baginski: here. Yeah, yeah.

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barrycassilly: here. Not as co-host.

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Michael Jensen: Yes, Andrew, you said he was going to be late. Lauren.

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lauren siegel: Yes, here.

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Michael Jensen: Matthew.

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barrycassilly: Oh, no, Matthew

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Michael Jensen: Chris here. and I am here, and Jeff

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Jeff Martin: here.

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Michael Jensen: Alright. Thank you. I don't have, I think, any announcements except well, maybe I'll just mention I think we're gonna have a meeting a week from tonight

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Michael Jensen: on some of the same topics. So

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Michael Jensen: that's not one of our regularly scheduled dates, but I believe we'll have a quorum but for for the public's just edification

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Michael Jensen: that, in addition to the one at the end of the the month as well.

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Michael Jensen: That will likely be in addition to it.

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Michael Jensen: But I believe I, the the the meeting next week is probably going to be a narrower agenda, so no cases. We'll just talk.

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Michael Jensen: We have more of the discussion for what's on the end of this agenda

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Michael Jensen: approval of minutes from February second. Can I have a May motion, and a second please a motion for approval.

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Michael Jensen: and i'll second it.

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Michael Jensen: and that's Karin.

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Michael Jensen: Alright, that's not right. There we go.

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Michael Jensen: All right. Roll. Call Chris here Now the we're routing on minutes. So

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Michael Jensen: is that a Yes.

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Christopher McLean: you need to take public comment

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Michael Jensen: on the minutes on a minute. Yup! You gotta let anybody that has a question if to to voice before you take a vote, most likely nobody will. But i'm just saying you have to on every public comment on the minutes.

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Michael Jensen: Let me see where the list of attendees is.

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Please raise your hand. If you'd like to make a comment on the minutes.

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Michael Jensen: not seeing any hands. I will over zoom our. We'll call them up. Chris. Yes. Lauren.

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lauren siegel: Yes.

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Michael Jensen: Corinne.

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Corinne baginski: Yes.

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Michael Jensen: Jeff.

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Jeff Martin: Yes.

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Michael Jensen: Mary.

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barrycassilly: yes.

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Michael Jensen: and I vote Yes, that's

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barrycassilly: I didn't miss any one. Did I?

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Michael Jensen: The screen? Now

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barrycassilly: we have 6.

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Michael Jensen: So

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okay. Declaration of conflicts of interest or exparte communications.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Hmm.

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Michael Jensen: Anyone?

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: No?

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Michael Jensen: Okay. I've spoken to the staff members on each of these cases, and also the

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Michael Jensen: applicant reps for the 2 cases we have in 10

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Michael Jensen: general public comment.

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Michael Jensen: Please raise your hand. If you have a general public comment on an item, not on the agenda tonight. I will limit the public comment to 1 min

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Michael Jensen: for each person only seeing Robin's hand. Go ahead, Robin.

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Robin Murez: Hi! So first of all, thank you all for passing the motion regarding the invalidation of the De Minimis waiver on the Life Card Tower. Let's hope that that happens because wrongful documents should not stay on the books, they can create more problems.

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Robin Murez: Another point is Cj. I think, in the last, or one of the meetings suggested that

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Robin Murez: There' be outreach and including like a community forum. I don't know what you call it on some of the projects that you guys are doing which are really important to the community, and that the community doesn't really have information about that.

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Robin Murez: And I want to reiterate that I think that that's how outreach should be utilizing their

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Robin Murez: efforts and their funds. I mean, if we're going to be spending money for the Neighborhood Council, it should be to get the word out, you know, when you're voting on something like increasing the height of buildings along Venice Boulevard. That's just huge, and

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Robin Murez: get out there. And then I just also want to mention that

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Robin Murez: it's unfortunate. I'm sure you already had the scheduled. But tonight there is starting at 7 30, the candidate

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Robin Murez: Forum, whatever you call it. They're presenting. The candidates are going to be speaking to the East Venice Neighborhood

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Robin Murez: group, and I know I want to hear that. So

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Robin Murez: I think it's unfortunate that there is a conflict. But you guys are doing important stuff, and

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Robin Murez: I think it's important, though, that we know who the candidates are who are running

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Michael Jensen: phone number ending in 6 9 0.

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barrycassilly: Oh, no.

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1310****690: Hi!

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1310****690: Can you hear me?

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Michael Jensen: Yes.

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1310****690: okay. This is Yolanda. 8 6 9 0.

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Michael Jensen: Yes, you want to. We can hear you.

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1310****690: Okay, all right. Yes.

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I just want to make a recommendation to Lupeck.

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1310****690: and I know that trees come up on private property. Well, I'm going to tell you something, you guys.

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Today I had a tree fall onto one of my properties.

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1310****690: and I think when it comes to deciding on private properties, whether the tree stays, the tree gets away, or whatever it is, let that have. Let the owners decide what they're going to be doing, because the legality of all this gets very, very, very difficult. I just want to make that recommendation. Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Thank you. Onda.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, Closing general public comments.

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Michael Jensen: I want to. So we had some left over case assignments that I want to dole out. So take a look at these. There's nothing to talk about on them. But if you have any questions, just what hit me up after the meeting or outside of the meeting

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Michael Jensen: that takes care of 8 9. These are de minimis V. So

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Michael Jensen: cases that i'm recommending for the Vnc. Consent Calendar. If anyone has any comments, including

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Michael Jensen: members of the public, please please raise your hand.

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Michael Jensen: I'll start with the public comment on it.

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Michael Jensen: Go on to your hand is up. I'm going to lower it

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Michael Jensen: if you want to say anything.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, i'm not seeing any public comment committee comments on these.

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Michael Jensen: Nope. Okay.

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Michael Jensen: Moving on to our cases. 7 2 3 ocean front walk. Do we have have

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Michael Jensen: Chris? Who is the presenter. On this

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Christopher McLean: it was Jesse.

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Christopher McLean: I notified him that what he was

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Christopher McLean: that we're having the meeting, and you got on the agenda, so I don't know where he is.

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Michael Jensen: I think I have a week.

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Michael Jensen: Yeah. You want to text them. We can. Also, we can just take these out of order.

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Michael Jensen: Who's the Barry, who's the person on place?

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Michael Jensen: All right.

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barrycassilly: That would be.

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Michael Jensen: is he?

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barrycassilly: He should be in the audience.

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Michael Jensen: Looking in the attendees I see

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Michael Jensen: I do not see.

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Michael Jensen: and

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barrycassilly: i'm sure he's gonna be here. I don't know why he isn't here right now. but

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barrycassilly: maybe we could just move on to something else to come back to this.

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Michael Jensen: Yeah, I guess we'll do that. I'm: just going to text. Brian actually have his number.

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Do we have?

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Michael Jensen: Okay, Well

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Michael Jensen: let me know if the either presenters come on.

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I so we're gonna take things out of order here

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Michael Jensen: and move on to

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Michael Jensen: these long term planning topics. This is mostly to get public comments. We can have some discussion afterwards, but want to start off with the permanent Al fresco ordinance.

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Michael Jensen: So i'm gonna open it up to public comment. Unless anyone wants me to bring up. I can pull up the fact sheet.

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Michael Jensen: Seeing some hands.

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Michael Jensen: We'll start with Daryl Duffy.

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Darryl DuFay: Thank you. Hi, You hear me.

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Darryl DuFay: Yes, okay. I I have a question about this.

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Darryl DuFay: And does this have anything to do with returning the parking spaces back to the public?

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Darryl DuFay: that. That just basically is when I see

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Darryl DuFay: we keep those parking spaces there.

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Michael Jensen: Here we go. That's my question.

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Michael Jensen: We'll talk about that.

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Michael Jensen: All right, Robin. Meres your minute starts.

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Robin Murez: Hi, so i'm sorry i'm also a little unclear about this regarding

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Robin Murez: private property. You know it seemed I I I would love to have an explanation before I make

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Robin Murez: advertising that has also cropped up on some of them, and I think that's more, though related to when they are in

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Robin Murez: parking spaces, and that and then again, i'm sorry if i'm off topic about this being in public. But when word plaza, there's been a plan to turn that into having no vehicles and having outdoor seating, and that would be wonderful without having these horrible arcade, you know.

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Robin Murez: and containers.

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Michael Jensen: may not be like other places. So that's why I think the discussion is is important. Here.

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Michael Jensen: Does the committee have any comments, or are there any other public comments on this issue?

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Michael Jensen: My My hand was up to? Oh. oh, sorry I can't see it because i'm on the attendees list.

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jim murez: until they can completely comply with the land use plan that we have. I'm not talking about specific. When i'm talking about the land use plan.

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jim murez: I think that there's a tremendous risk that we would have

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jim murez: in approving anything along these lines, because it would set a precedence or or an issue with getting a land use plan approved, or a land implementation plan approved in the future.

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jim murez: One of the things that you have to do when you get a coast to development permit

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jim murez: extra parking spaces like you say they still need to park it. in my opinion, but I don't think anybody has extra parking spaces.

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Michael Jensen: you need to take some very, very serious consideration about what it holds in the future. Okay, thanks, Jim.

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1310****690: Yes, I just like to make a presence if the food trucks are allowed to take up parking spaces, and then they put out

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1310****690: their tables to accommodate their client. Doesn't that fall under the Al fresco permit also.

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1310****690: or is does it go under another permit, because I see a lot of these food trucks that just parked and take away a lot of parking spaces. And then they set out their little tables, and they they they do their thing, and they don't have to comply with anything.

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1310****690: But then, if you go against them, then they all go against everybody else, and even the the restaurant, the owners of restaurants, that

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Michael Jensen: Thank you, Anna.

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barrycassilly: yeah. I just wanted to. I I think this needs a little bit of an update, because

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barrycassilly: you know, the city came out with it. It's draft. Our planning came out with a draft ordinance planning Staff did.

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barrycassilly: That's been to put it as politely as I can. That's been thrown into garbage.

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barrycassilly: the outpouring, the outpouring from the community being upset about that proposed ordinance being a overly bureaucratic

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barrycassilly: was overwhelming so going back to the drawing board.

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barrycassilly: I'm not really sure what we're supposed to be like talking about tonight, but the discussion as it stands now, as I understand it is that there are people who want

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barrycassilly: everything changed, but nobody really knows how. And then there are people who want the restaurants to be grandfathered in their current usage.

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barrycassilly: So that's you know we're starting over with this thing. Anyway. The draft ordinance is dead.

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Michael Jensen: Okay? Well, thanks for that update.

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Michael Jensen: I see Brian's here, so i'm gonna switch gear unless do we have other public comments on the Al fresco ordinance.

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Michael Jensen: This is not going to be something that is decided anytime. Well, I wouldn't say anytime soon, but but we're going to be dealing with this over the course of several meetings, so this is not your only opportunity.

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Christopher McLean: No, I texted him right when you said that I haven't heard back yet, but I I think he works for Brian, so maybe Brian's gonna present for him. I'm not sure.

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Michael Jensen: Got it

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Michael Jensen: and i'll promote you to panelists.

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Michael Jensen: Do you have do you want me to pull up the plans or anything for you while you present.

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Brian Silveira: Hey, Nicole? No, I I cannot. If i'm able to share my screen, I can, I can present. Which case are we on?

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Brian Silveira: Okay. So ocean from walk. Get it. guys. I have a a confession to make here. I had no idea that either one of these we're on the agenda for tonight. I actually just found out.

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Brian Silveira: I didn't know that the meeting and then rescheduled for tonight, so

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Brian Silveira: I am prepared to speak about Byzantine Place, even though I I don't have a presentation. I i'm sure I can. You know just present the plans, and speak to the project

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Brian Silveira: for 7 23 ocean front walk. No one from my office knew about this, and it it's not urgent. I don't think we're gonna have a a hearing for probably another 3, 4 months at least.

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Brian Silveira: unfortunately, so that one, I think we can

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Michael Jensen: post phone for for another meeting.

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Michael Jensen: so we'll continue 7 2 3, until the end of the month. Chris, can you please send a reminder email to Brian

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Michael Jensen: when we put the agenda up, or when I put the agenda up next at the end of the month.

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Christopher McLean: Yeah, no problem. I emailed Jessie, but it was like 2 days ago. So it's probably short, you know. Short notice, I guess is is Jessie in the meeting right now. She she and I didn't even speak about it today, so I assume she didn't know she's not

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barrycassilly: I I didn't know. So sorry about that, Brian. We'll we'll we'll get this one. But wait a minute, even on Pasani. I'm. I'm staff on Pasani. And there this is Barry and Brian. If there is some miscommunication between the 2 of us.

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Brian Silveira: No, that's okay. Barry, I think, is is is one. You know our hearing is March 20, third.

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Brian Silveira: and you know i'm well versed enough in pizza you that I think I can explain the project without having an elaborate presentation. We can just get into it and go through the plans.

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Brian Silveira: Yeah. And and I suppose you know, if you guys feel like you do want a presentation or you don't have enough information we can. We can post phone, and I could leave the hearing record open

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Brian Silveira: on March 20, third. But i'd like to try and get through it if that's okay.

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Michael Jensen: get this next Thursday. I would like to be solely devoted to the long term planning issues, one of which we're talking tonight. So i'd like to get if, if it's possible, Brian, and you can do it. I'm happy to hear the case.

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Christopher McLean: Yeah, guys, Sorry. I just realized there's a there was a snap who, because my email is still kind of

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Christopher McLean: not properly set up through this account, but I emailed Brian and Jesse and you, but I guess it didn't go through.

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Michael Jensen: we're on to the next one now. But, Chris. let's talk after the meeting about your email.

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Christopher McLean: Okay, Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Take it away, Brian.

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Brian Silveira: So I think you can. You can. You should be able to. Yeah, Can I share?

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Michael Jensen: Yeah, let me stop mine.

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Brian Silveira: all right. So Brian Silvera, Brian sovereign associates on behalf of the applicants to Michelle, Me. Post and Steve me. Those are the developers for this project.

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Brian Silveira: This project, you know. I I won't go through the whole history.

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Brian Silveira: I'll just let you know that the original version of this project was filed in in 2,015. That's how all it is

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Brian Silveira: 8 condominium units.

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Brian Silveira: 5 of those are market rate, 2 and 3 bedrooms, and 3 of them are affordable, mellow replacement units.

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Brian Silveira: all 3 of which

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Brian Silveira: I have a right of return for the tenants at Paisani.

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Brian Silveira: 2 of those tenants have been living there for the past 5 years rent free.

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Brian Silveira: and one of those tenants has moved, but she'll be offered right in return, so all 3 of the affordable units are are dedicated to to the previous sentences.

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Brian Silveira: as is intended with the mellow ordinance. But pretty much never happens in Venice now. So this project. it is a density bonus project, and so we are utilizing some incentives.

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Brian Silveira: mostly off menu. So we have 11 feet of additional height. Total height, variable. Roof is 46 feet.

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Brian Silveira: are utilizing parking option, one from the density bonus ordinance which requires only one parking space for a one bedroom unit.

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Brian Silveira: 2 parking spaces for 2 and 3 bedroom units, and no guest parking.

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Brian Silveira: So 3 of the units, which are the 3 bedroom of 4. Here. Excuse me.

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Brian Silveira: 3 of the units, which are the one bedroom affordable, will each have one space, and the remaining units will all have 2 spaces.

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Brian Silveira: We have a rear yard reduction, which is just a 6 inch reduction. so 14 feet 6 inches in Lou, with 15 feet

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Brian Silveira: not much to speak of, and then for the front yard. We're asking for 11 feet 11 inches in lieu of the 15 feet. All 3 of those incentives are on menu ministerial incentives.

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Brian Silveira: The ones that are off menu non ministerial incentives

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Brian Silveira: So one of those incentives is to permit, and I. I can zoom in here. If you guys want to read these.

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Brian Silveira: permit 7 parking stalls to be provided as standard stalls and 5 to be provided is compact

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Brian Silveira: in lieu of the minimum 8 parking stalls required. So what this means is when you.

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Brian Silveira: fewer parking solves or excuse me when you are providing less than your parking stalls required. They are supposed to all be standard stalls.

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Brian Silveira: Some of our stalls are compact. Some of them are standard. So instead of all 12 of our parking stalls being standard. we're just doing 5 compact and 7 standard. That's all that that is, it's not asking for a reduction in parking.

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Brian Silveira: and then the same thing with the last, the waiver of development standards here, which is off menu.

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Brian Silveira: Some of the parking spaces are provided is tandem. And so we're we're simply asking for permission to provide. The to parking spaces is is tandem spaces for certain units. Again, not not a reduction in parking, but just.

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Brian Silveira: you know, having to do with the parking design.

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Brian Silveira: you know I I could probably go on for a long time about this project, but you know we we don't see a lot of for story projects in Venice.

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Brian Silveira: you know, I I think this one really is worthy of the density bonus incentives. It's, you know, 3 of its 8 units

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Brian Silveira: yeah, you know, I I think, like I said I, I didn't have a a presentation prepared, so i'm just kind of going off the cup. But Why, Don't? I turn it over to questions, and then i'm happy to get into any details.

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Michael Jensen: clarifying questions about the project, not not substantive, but clarifying questions from the presentation, and then we'll go to follow the comment, and we'll do committee discussion.

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Michael Jensen: Lauren, you have your hand up.

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lauren siegel: Yeah. You had mentioned that there was one parking spot for each of the one bedrooms and 2 for the others.

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Brian Silveira: That's 13, but you mentioned 12 parking spots, so i'm just curious how that works with the with a 20% bicycle reduction. So yeah, the the way the math works is right. 13 is the requirement, and I should have explained that again, i'm sorry for not being prepared.

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Brian Silveira: 13 is the requirement. But then we get to eliminate a parking space because of the the automatic bicycle reduction.

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Brian Silveira: So that's not. That's not technically a request for a reduction in parking. But yes, we have, I guess. Technically speaking, we have 2 single parking spaces for 3

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Brian Silveira: affordable units, and i'll also mention that so right now there are 6. There are 6 units there, and most of them are vacant, but historically there have been up to 8 units operating there.

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Brian Silveira: All of the garages were built, you know, almost

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Brian Silveira: Few of the garages have been boot, like in Berlin to units. The other garages had been turned into storage, and so what you had. There was a condition where there were 8 units with 0 parking spaces, and everybody parked on the street.

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Brian Silveira: So this is not only is it in that game in parking, but it's. It's a net reduction in number of units as well.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, Any other committee clarifying questions before I open it up to public comment.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, for some reason I cannot get to the participant panel. There we go.

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Michael Jensen: All right. Please raise your hand for public comment while I am getting that getting the timer out.

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Michael Jensen: we're gonna do.

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Michael Jensen: Okay.

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Michael Jensen: 1 min i'll do 90 s on this.

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Michael Jensen: and I'm only seeing one hand up so far.

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Michael Jensen: Robin Rudolph Here, go ahead.

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Robin Rudisill: What do you know?

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Robin Rudisill: Hi, it's Robin.

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Robin Rudisill: I just have a couple of questions to clarify what I'm seeing here Number one. Can you go over what the off menu request are again? I think you said it's parking, and that was it. The other ones were on menu, but maybe it may be parking in height.

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Robin Rudisill: I want to be a little bit more clear on the the height request like, what's the

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Robin Rudisill: actual height requirement in this particular planning designation area, and then what you're requesting, and what the percentage is, and all that. And then could you mention how many units were originally identified

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Robin Rudisill: as affordable replacement under mellow sort of how that reconciled to what you're ending up proposing here. And lastly, have you had any conversations with

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Robin Rudisill: either Julia and O's group, or coastal, or E, or both.

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Robin Rudisill: about what? How you will.

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Robin Rudisill: I sure that the density bonus and the law and the coastal act are harmonized with this project. Thank you.

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Brian Silveira: I'm. Just taking notes One moment.

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Brian Silveira: Okay. So thank you, Robin.

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Brian Silveira: Let me zoom in on this. I'm: not seeing any other hand. So i'm going to close public comment.

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Brian Silveira: Okay, Thank you. Yeah. So this actually this.

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Brian Silveira: this

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Brian Silveira: well, the first one here these are, by the way, the

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Brian Silveira: on and off menu incentive. So these are all on menu incentives. These 3,

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Brian Silveira: the waivers of development standards are what they would consider to be off menu incentives.

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Brian Silveira: This first one we we actually scratch. That's not going to appear on the hearing notice. So originally, I think, department of city planning

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Brian Silveira: wanted us to add that just as a precaution, because they weren't sure whether the specific plan would allow more than one roof access structure even for a multi family building. But then they came to the conclusion that it was okay, because it was required for fire department egress.

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Brian Silveira: So this one here is no longer one of our our waivers or or incentives.

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Brian Silveira: So

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Brian Silveira: Robin, and you know, to clarify for anyone who's interested.

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Brian Silveira: This requirement here. When you provide

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Brian Silveira: you're You're 12 right, I guess we're providing 12. The requirement is 13, as as Lauren pointed out. But whenever you provide the minimum number of parking spaces, they're all supposed to be standard stalls.

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Brian Silveira: That's just, you know, sort of tied to the the old parking code. And so all this is is a request to provide 5 of the 12 spaces that we are providing as compact rather than providing all 12

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Brian Silveira: as a standard spaces.

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Brian Silveira: And then this here

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Brian Silveira: Oops.

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Brian Silveira: So this one here is because and maybe if I go to the parking plan, it might be easier to explain this.

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Brian Silveira: but so to permit 7 units to have access to parking stalls in lieu of 8 units. And so again, what this means is that when you have. and in our case you have 8 units.

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Brian Silveira: if you you're supposed to provide one parking space for each unit

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Brian Silveira: before you can then continue on providing more parking spaces. We have

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Brian Silveira: 12 parking spaces, so we're supposed to have at least one space available to each unit.

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Brian Silveira: But we don't, and the reason why we don't is because the parking spaces for the market rate 2 and 3 bedrooms are tandem spaces. which leads only

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Brian Silveira: 2 single parking spaces to share between the 3 affordable units.

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Brian Silveira: so 2 of the affordable units will get one parking space, and one of the affordable units will not have a parking space, but in reality they they're gonna require that the parking be unbundled. Anyway.

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Brian Silveira: it's just the way that they do it. So we've

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Brian Silveira: we designed it with the intent, obviously, of

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Brian Silveira: selling

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Brian Silveira: the 2 parking spaces or the tandem parking spaces to the

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Brian Silveira: the larger units. But so here you go. It's 1, 2, 3 4 5 6,

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Brian Silveira: and then here's a single space, 7 8 9, 10. So the tandems belong to the the larger market rate units

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Brian Silveira: 2 single standard spaces.

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Brian Silveira: and then the third unit, the third affordable unit would not have a parking space. But again, there is

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Brian Silveira: This is the street I don't know if any of you guys have ever been by there. But it's

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Brian Silveira: one of the few streets in Venice that always has street parking. We did a a parking study. Dcp. Required us to do one where we went out there in, you know, daytime and then evenings during the day and during the weekend.

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Brian Silveira: and you know we always counted at least, you know, 1012 parking spaces on the street. and and, as I mentioned, you know historically, there were up to 8 households living here with

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Brian Silveira: with no no onsite parking.

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Brian Silveira: and and people manage to park on the street. So that's

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Brian Silveira: that's the off menu. And then. with respect to the on menu. So the rear yard setback request. The reduction is only

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Brian Silveira: a 3% reduction. So you could see here. That's within that the 20% allowed for it to be on menu. The height increase is 11 feet, which is also on menus. So

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Brian Silveira: the height limits here are 30 and 35 feet, you know, 30 feet flat, 35 feet variable.

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Brian Silveira: And then on menu. You are allowed to go an additional 11 feet. So this one is also on menu.

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Brian Silveira: Excuse me. Nope. I messed that one up so. The height limit here is actually 30,

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Brian Silveira: 2530,

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Brian Silveira: and we are asking for

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Brian Silveira: 41 36.

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Brian Silveira: But again it's it's still just an 11 feet Increase the reduction in front yard setback.

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Brian Silveira: Is a this is actually a typo. It's supposed to be 20% reduction.

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Brian Silveira: So that is the maximum front yard reduction allowed for it to still be ministerial.

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Brian Silveira: Robin. You asked about how many units were originally identified in the mellow letter. So originally we had

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Brian Silveira: 3 units, and all 3 of those units. The the tenants who are living in those units are the same 3 tenants will have right of return through mellow to the 3 affordable units that we're building.

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Brian Silveira: and i'm not. I'm not sure if that answers your question, but they they're worth 3. And then.

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Brian Silveira: with the original project we ended up doing a feasibility study.

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Brian Silveira: So our mellow obligation became no units for the original project.

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Brian Silveira: and I I think you know that you know that turned into providing 3 units, so that we could accommodate all 3 of those those tenants that were found to have melody, and it's originally

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Brian Silveira: with regard to coastal and and mellow harmonizing.

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Brian Silveira: So you know, coastal

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Brian Silveira: coastal has, you know, played this one pretty close to the best they don't like to talk about, or at least they don't like to concede

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Brian Silveira: that they will allow for story projects.

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Brian Silveira: but on a case by case basis, You know we're able to approach them sometimes and talk about projects. And

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Brian Silveira: yeah, co coastal has said, You know they Again, they won't commit anything. But they've said, if we can make the findings for the parking, which I i'm satisfied that we have, especially with our parking study.

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Brian Silveira: that If if we do qualify for a bonus, we provide 3 out of the 5 units

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Brian Silveira: that the precedent is there especially far from you. We're over a mile from the beach.

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Brian Silveira: The precedent is there with, you know, the project on Lincoln and a couple of others to allow. The fourth story, which I know is is the big one for most people.

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Michael Jensen: So I hope that

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jim murez: I just have a couple of comments. I'm curious if they keep it in in a minute. Yeah, if the if the rooftop structures are part of the

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jim murez: 40 or the 11 feet of additional height.

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jim murez: i'm concerned that in the early 2 thousands the Vnc. Took a very strong position against having more than one rooftop structure per project.

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jim murez: and that came up when the Art Lofts project on Main Street was created, and I believe that they created 16 rooftop structures

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jim murez: on this, on the 16 units that are on the top floor, and then downtown loss was built, and they created another 30 of them, and it actually just created an additional complete fourth story. At that point the V and C. Rule. We don't want more than one per project

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jim murez: if they wanted to invert the stairway where the drains were at the bottom of the stairs, then they could. They don't have to have a rooftop structure, and I think that that's something that you should take very seriously, because you'd be opposing what the Vnc. Had previously ruled on

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jim murez: and and sent to the city as a loop as a as a

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jim murez: land use plan, change. This is one of the things it's supposed to be in the amended land. Use plan has nothing to do with fire access, fire, access. Can it still exist and have 2 exits out of off the roof? It's just that they having 2 structures. It creates a huge shadow on the property next door.

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jim murez: Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, Jim. Thanks. All right. Committee discussion.

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Michael Jensen: Lauren.

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lauren siegel: Hi, Brian.

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lauren siegel: I am trying to understand the process of when you guys, I guess I I looked up a little bit of do some research. So you're originally offering

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lauren siegel: 2.

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lauren siegel: So so some of your documents say one units being offered is low income, some say 2, and some say 3, so i'm a little confused

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lauren siegel: as to the process that you guys have gone through, so can you explain to me how you decide of the 8 sets of folks that were originally living on the property who gets to be offered these units, especially since you said only 2

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lauren siegel: are still living there. How do you decide who the third person is, how does all of that work?

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Brian Silveira: Sure it's a great question. And

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Brian Silveira: yeah, there is my Gosh! We've been through so many different iterations of this project. I don't blame you for being confused. I I seriously have a hard time keeping track of it myself.

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Brian Silveira: So the answer i'll answer your last question first

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Brian Silveira: we decided we got the 3 units based on the mellow determination, and it it was actually before the mellow determination. We looked

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Brian Silveira: at the rent rules, and and, you know, try to anticipate, like most people do who is paying affordable rents.

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Brian Silveira: And then, based on that, we decided on our own

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Brian Silveira: for the original project that we were going to provide 2 units.

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Brian Silveira: The reason it was too originally is because the third person who came back is mellow, qualifying. Originally we did not think that she was going to mellow, qualify.

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Brian Silveira: and so we, in the first project, decided to do 2 affordable units.

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Brian Silveira: but we didn't want them to be deed restricted, which is the reason why we use the feasibility study

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Brian Silveira: because we feel I I still feel like the process is flawed because mellow can identify someone. And now Sba can identify

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Brian Silveira: a unit or a person.

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Brian Silveira: you know for whom you're you're supposed to to be able to build a replacement unit.

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Brian Silveira: The problem is that person still has to qualify based on their income, and they have to do that some years later, when the project is built.

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Brian Silveira: So you know, person a in person B.

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Brian Silveira: Who were mellow, qualifying, based on rents which still, 3 or 4 years later, after mellow qualify

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Brian Silveira: based on income to buy their own unit. We thought that was a broken system, and so what we wanted to do is just build the unit, and then negotiate with them directly to buy the unit at an affordable price.

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Brian Silveira: We thought that was kind of a win win.

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Brian Silveira: What ended up happening was and i'm. I'm. Giving you the short version of this story. But what ended up happening was Sba came by the time we refiled this project to do 3 units

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Brian Silveira: we could no longer qualify for a feasibility study. We couldn't sell them directly, because mellow as the feasibility study option sba doesn't.

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Brian Silveira: So we when we redesigned it it intended to just do one unit. Then it became 2, because we thought that Sba was going to return to.

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Brian Silveira: and then we found out that Sb. It can actually compel us to do all 3 units. If, therefore, sale, the housing department can opt to to make all 3 affordable.

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Brian Silveira: so

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Brian Silveira: there were several changes there, and finally, we just settled on. You know we'll make them all affordable. and we'll communicate with the tenants, which you know we've been in touch with all 3 tenants, especially 2 of them throughout this process.

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Brian Silveira: to make sure that they understand they're gonna have to qualify, and what those those qualifying amounts are. and

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Brian Silveira: you know we'll we'll see what happens that we think that they they should be able to to buy those units when the project is built.

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lauren siegel: Okay. So I just a follow up. If it's okay. You had a bunch of people living on the property most of them left. You had only 2 remaining, and those you said, we're getting free rent for the last 5 years.

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Brian Silveira: Yeah, the

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Brian Silveira: Yeah. Well, so the the last thing that you said is correct. Yes, so the 2 remaining who are the 2 that we are had originally identified as being mellow, qualifying.

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Brian Silveira: Remain there, and they haven't. We, we, Ellis, the property, and when you, Ellis, a property, then you can collect rents. So when we allocate rather than telling them they have to leave.

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Brian Silveira: we just let them stay and not pay rent. And

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Brian Silveira: you know, admittedly, we didn't think it was gonna

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Brian Silveira: we didn't think it was going to take 6 years, so we told them that they could not pay rent for as long as the process took. But now they've not been paying rent for 6 years. And yeah.

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lauren siegel: but i'm still confused. How you got to choose who that third person is? Of the remaining 6 P. 6 parties that we're living on the property.

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Corinne baginski: Yeah, Where did she come from? Sorry I can't raise my hand.

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Brian Silveira: Oh, no, that's okay. So she came from. So the mellow determination as I mentioned this is going back now to Early on in the process.

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Brian Silveira: The melod determination returned, you know, 10 and a and 10, and B, as as we had expected, based on seeing the rents. but we had not expected it to return this third tenant.

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Brian Silveira: and the reason why it did is because they base the mellow determination, not on this particular tenant per se. But on her boyfriend who had moved in with her that we didn't know about. And so

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Brian Silveira: you know, we we were a little bit blind side in my but having said that.

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Brian Silveira: you know we're we're fine with the fact, You know. It was brought to our attention that this person wanted an affordable unit, thought that she or her boyfriend qualified. And so, you know, we were put in a position where, you know, we felt obligated to do

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Brian Silveira: 3 replacement affordable units. And so now that's what we're doing.

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Michael Jensen: Are any of the residents

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Michael Jensen: for the these 3 people on at the meeting tonight?

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Brian Silveira: No, I I would have told them to join. But I didn't know the meeting myself.

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Brian Silveira: Yeah.

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Michael Jensen: okay, Daryl: I see your hand again. Public comment is closed.

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Michael Jensen: Barry.

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barrycassilly: Yeah. all sense. Robin. open this discussion.

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barrycassilly: I have a couple of questions now. My understanding is that Robin

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barrycassilly: and a citizen for serving Venice

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barrycassilly: appealed the original project.

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barrycassilly: and their appeal is based on the fact that there were 2 affordable units, and Robin and Cpv. Felt there should be 3 affordable units.

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barrycassilly: Am I mistaken?

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Brian Silveira: Well, you know, Robin can probably speak to that better than I. But I think Robin.

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Brian Silveira: to quote or appeal, felt that there should be at least 3, and you know that was based on

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Brian Silveira: the mellow determination that was returned. So

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Brian Silveira: yeah, you know an an argument good and and was made, you know it could be meaning once made, that there were 3 units we had miscalculated, depending on how you looked at it. You know

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Brian Silveira: it. It's 2 or 3 units, and so. and to me it's it's sort of a moot point, you know. I I understand

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Brian Silveira: very. You know, that you feel a particular way about this and and that's okay, but it at this point.

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Brian Silveira: It's you know it's an 8 unit project with 3 affordable units, and that's what I'm coming to you there

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Brian Silveira: to support.

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barrycassilly: I understand, but I haven't expressed my feelings yet, and I

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barrycassilly: did not plan on doing so until the issue was raised

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barrycassilly: by the appellant.

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barrycassilly: and you know I did. I also didn't realize this was a break form project initially.

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barrycassilly: and it just it stands out as

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barrycassilly: as exceptional

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barrycassilly: that Robin and Cpv. Would be involved in an appeal of a break form project. And this would be it

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barrycassilly: given that that break for most of them, like 40 projects in Venice over the years.

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barrycassilly: and Robin has appealed none of them.

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barrycassilly: So this it really like.

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barrycassilly: catches your attention

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barrycassilly: that this project was appealed, and and it it

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barrycassilly: again since she has been raised it like.

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barrycassilly: Yeah, my feelings are racist questions in my mind about this third unit and the tenant and the third units.

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barrycassilly: So

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barrycassilly: I have to ask.

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barrycassilly: Census appeal disappeared. Has there been any financial renumeration between the owners or the general contractors, or anybody involved with this project, and

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barrycassilly: Cpv and or Robin

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barrycassilly: that led to the appeal being dropped.

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barrycassilly: Is it? Are you asking me that question?

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Brian Silveira: No, no, Mary. there there is been no financial remuneration.

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barrycassilly: Okay, thank you. To your knowledge. Is there any connection between this third tenant and Cpv. Or Cpv. Members?

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Brian Silveira: I I have no idea in Cpv advocates for a lot of people as part of their mission, and I I don't know if this person has any special relevance to them.

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barrycassilly: Okay, Thank you. That's all

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Michael Jensen: any other committee comments.

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lauren siegel: Yeah, I think Corinne had her hand up. But

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Michael Jensen: oh, sorry i'm on the wrong. Okay, Karen, we'll, we'll go to you.

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Corinne baginski: Hi! I have a question in regards to the third tenant.

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Corinne baginski: It seems to me that there's some sort of implication that

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Corinne baginski: if you allow that third tenant

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Corinne baginski: as a low income. you will get that project pushed.

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Corinne baginski: and not being appealed, it's just a question i'm just from from what i'm hearing.

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Brian Silveira: Is it so i'm sorry. What was the question?

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Corinne baginski: Well, it just looks like this project has taken such a long it it's been such a long time

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that Originally you had too low income.

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Corinne baginski: and now you're you're introducing a third one.

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Corinne baginski: Do you actually think, by introducing that third low income

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Corinne baginski: tenant. you will strongly feel that you will be able to get that project going

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Brian Silveira: well.

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Corinne baginski: not having it appealed.

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Brian Silveira: Sure. Yeah, I I don't know. I mean, that's it's a weird way to phrase the question. But yeah, I suppose

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Brian Silveira: you know the appellants were were very clear with their appeal points that they felt strongly. There should have been at least

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Brian Silveira: 3.

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Brian Silveira: Hello, I do you you? The appellants felt felt very, and that's you know. That's public record. You're welcome to look at the appeal. The the appeal points. One of them you on the main one, I guess, was.

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Brian Silveira: They felt strongly that there should have been 3 replacement affordable units, and the mellow did identify 3 replacement affordable units.

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Brian Silveira: So by with the drawing this and refiling it with 3 affordable units. Yeah, that I guess that's exactly what we were doing is, we were hoping to to avoid an appeal, at least from citizens preserving that.

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Brian Silveira: But it's it's not solely for the purpose of avoiding an appeal. It's it's also in the interest of replacing all 3 units for all 3 times.

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Corinne baginski: All right.

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Michael Jensen: Jeff.

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Jeff Martin: Yeah, I guess I I have something positive to say, I I think you know, while you're asking for some off menu incentives to parking and height, I think the fact that this is a a for profit developer, it seems, providing almost 40% affordable units.

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Jeff Martin: you know, without public funding. I I think this is this is the kind of thing where These types of incentives, you know, make make total sense. So you know I I I applaud you for

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Jeff Martin: for providing such a large percentage of affordable units. It's probably very difficult to make this actually financially successful. So you know, I I think, overall it's a it's a very reasonable trade for what you're doing. So.

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Brian Silveira: Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: I have a oh, sorry, Lauren. I lowered your hand. I thought it was. Go ahead.

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lauren siegel: I I was just curious if there was community outreach what the neighbors think, what their opinions are. If you guys had shared this information with them.

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Brian Silveira: Yeah. So the neighbors.

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Brian Silveira: Well, a lot of the neighbors in that area have been.

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Brian Silveira: have tried to develop are in the process of developing, or have been bought by developers. Because this is

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Brian Silveira: this is that area of Venice, where you're actually able to build that a. A true R. 3 density. And so I think

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Brian Silveira: I think that a lot of the neighbors we're hoping, or at least waiting for this project to go through so they could cut and get a sense, for you know what what they might be able to do there.

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Brian Silveira: and I had. I spoken to some of them actually, and encouraged them to do projects that had affordable units, because i'm a huge advocate for mixed income projects

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Brian Silveira: and for multi-family projects.

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Brian Silveira: So yeah, the the immediate neighbors or not, you know I mean they're they're either supportive or they're just you know, kind of waiting for their own opportunity to develop.

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Brian Silveira: And then.

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Brian Silveira: yeah, the neighbors we did a a few, you know, 500 foot radius notification meetings

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Brian Silveira: back when we were working on this originally. and no one really showed up. No one was was much interested in this

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lauren siegel: Brian. I have a question hold on Mikkel. So so the 41 foot high building that covers 2 lots. The people aren't concerned about, you know, shade or

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lauren siegel: the scale of it at all I mean nobody's really expressed any of those concerns.

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Brian Silveira: Well.

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Brian Silveira: I don't know about nobody. I I know that the people, the the neighbors on this block have

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Brian Silveira: not. You know they've been supportive. And and are you know some of that that the neighbor directly to hey, let me go to a zoom, this man or in here real.

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Brian Silveira: so I can actually point out what I'm talking about.

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Michael Jensen: Brian. I have a I have a related question why you're pulling that up. So I remember there was community outreach down this project, and it's maybe first iteration.

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Michael Jensen: What was the height on that original project versus this one?

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Brian Silveira: Yeah, it was 11 feet lower. Right? Yeah.

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Brian Silveira: Yeah.

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Brian Silveira: So well, this is not really loading properly.

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Brian Silveira: There it is. So this is our property here. It's these 2 lots.

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Brian Silveira: This gentleman here. It filed for a duplex at some point, I think, he ended up with drawing.

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Brian Silveira: but that was a 2,015 case that was filed right around the same time that that we filed the original project.

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Brian Silveira: This person here, I think, is planning on doing a a small, on subdivision, or something like that. I actually met with them

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Brian Silveira: the owner there

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Brian Silveira: and then. I think that one of these up here I forget which one had plans to do a a large multi-family project. So it's. And this area is is coveted now, because people recognize that it's it's.

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Brian Silveira: you know, part of this very small portion of Venice. You know this this part included here

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Brian Silveira: where you can actually do our 3 development. You know most of Venice that's our 3 is, is limited by this specific plan to 2 units per lot. Which is it's kind of worthless, you know. It's like single family are already 1.5,

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Brian Silveira: you know. So people are.

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Michael Jensen: A lot of people are lining up to do multi-family projects here, and I think that they should I think it's it's a good area for it, and I wish they had sooner.

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Michael Jensen: If there's a someone who wants to make a motion, I just want to be cognizant. There's a lot of people waiting for the last item on our agenda.

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Whose case is this, Barry?

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Michael Jensen: So I can make a motion on this.

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Michael Jensen: Barry.

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barrycassilly: Sorry

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Michael Jensen: there it's your project. You want to make a motion.

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barrycassilly: Yeah, I would. I'll make a motion to approve the project as presented.

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Michael Jensen: so anyone there to second it.

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Andrew Mika: Second

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Michael Jensen: sorry. Was that Andrew?

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Andrew Mika: Yes.

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Michael Jensen: okay. I'm just gonna go across the screen based on the so out of order here. Chris.

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Christopher McLean: Yes.

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Michael Jensen: Lauren.

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lauren siegel: Yes.

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Michael Jensen: correct.

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Corinne baginski: Yes.

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Michael Jensen: Jeff.

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Jeff Martin: Yes.

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Michael Jensen: Barry.

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barrycassilly: Yes.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: yes.

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Michael Jensen: Andrew.

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Andrew Mika: Yes.

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Michael Jensen: okay, and I will also vote. Yes, motion carries

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Michael Jensen: Brian. You will be on the march.

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Michael Jensen: More meeting.

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Michael Jensen: I will hopefully. Someone will remind you if I forget. But it's the third Tuesday

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Brian Silveira: the

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Brian Silveira: we did march. What did you say?

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Michael Jensen: I third choose. I don't have a

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Michael Jensen: no 20 versions of Saturday. Okay, 21,

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Brian Silveira: 21. Okay. Perfect. And our hearing for anyone who's interested our our public hearing is on the 23,

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Brian Silveira: but more

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Brian Silveira: alright, and thank you very much. Guys.

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Michael Jensen: Okay. Moving on back to 11. B.

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Michael Jensen: We are introducing the discussion for public comment on the Mta lot, located at 100 sunset, also known as bridge housing on January 20, eighth, 2,016. The Metro board of directors adopted the motion calling for a community-based process to determine

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Michael Jensen: a new use for division. 6. What we know is the Mta lot, located at 100 Sunset at Main Street.

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Michael Jensen: through Metro's join development program

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Michael Jensen: between October 2,018, and March, 2,019 Mta's Joint Development Department conducted outreach efforts in Venice. A lot of that was done through the Vnc.

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Michael Jensen: The Outreach and development planning and design culminated in the latest draft development guidelines from May 2019, which summarizes the outreach efforts and contains several conceptual proposals for the Mta. Lot

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Michael Jensen: I, Loc or I. I linked all of those on the agenda. I hope everyone had a chance to check them out

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Michael Jensen: separately. I know everyone knows that there's the temporary bridge housing site that was approved in November of 19, eventually getting started in February of 2,000, and 20.

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Michael Jensen: So

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Michael Jensen: this has been a

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Michael Jensen: an area of

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Michael Jensen: you know, part of our community that has, you know. I think

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Michael Jensen: we were skeptical of of when this came in, and after all the promises that were

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Michael Jensen: supposed to come with it, we're broken. I think we were even less than skeptical, so

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Michael Jensen: i'm going to start off by just I want to solicit the the purpose of this is

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Michael Jensen: wanna pick up where we left off on the community outreach, and what is supposed to be a community led development.

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Michael Jensen: And so

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Michael Jensen: i'd start with. I guess we're gonna take some community feedback. I'm hoping everyone on the committee and and the public had a chance to look at the 77 page document

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Michael Jensen: that was done by Metro back in

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Michael Jensen: May of 19, or May. I think it was but the draft guidelines. But we'll start off before we start with public comment. Anyone on the committee have any questions.

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Michael Jensen: Lauren?

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lauren siegel: Yeah, didn't

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lauren siegel: Did they renew the lease without trouble? Or is Tracy's team looking at it again? I was unclear. If that's actually happening that they're renewing it

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Michael Jensen: to be determined.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, so i'm going to start with a public comments.

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Michael Jensen: and we're going to.

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Michael Jensen: Sorry.

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Michael Jensen: Yes, Barry.

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barrycassilly: Yeah. I just wanted to try to contextualize this a little bit more, because, you know, I think Lauren

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barrycassilly: Lauren's question was

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barrycassilly: very much to the point.

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barrycassilly: I think it's important that people understand that

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barrycassilly: that the

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barrycassilly: this process that that you're restarting. Mchale

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barrycassilly: had a several year investment by the community and the Mta.

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barrycassilly: In in community outreach and lots of feedback lots of information. And there's this document that we have that you're bringing up.

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barrycassilly: That was sort of left off. It was. The whole process was interrupted by Covid. and in the interim.

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barrycassilly: you know we had the Covid emergency, and the usage of the property was temporarily

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barrycassilly: assigned to its current usage. You know bridge housing. The Coastal Commission granted the city

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barrycassilly: to minimize labor.

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barrycassilly: But the city was not required to get a coastal development permit for 3 years to use the property as bridge housing. That Waiver stipulated that the

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barrycassilly: usage of the property is bridge housing would be dismantled at the end of 3 years.

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barrycassilly: that 3 years expired

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barrycassilly: literally the day before yesterday.

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barrycassilly: And so

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barrycassilly: there's a lot of questions about the disposition of the property going forward.

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barrycassilly: and and lots of things have changed like in the in just in the past few months. One of the things that's changed

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barrycassilly: is that there's an emergency order that the Mayor had passed by the City Council

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barrycassilly: allowing her and her administration. A broad range of powers to pretty much unilaterally. Do make a lot of of decisions in the city without going through a lot of processes.

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barrycassilly: and also the Mta board came out with a declaration that

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barrycassilly: they were going to earmark or their properties, their surplus properties for

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barrycassilly: emergency uses for homeless services, and for and or for very low income

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barrycassilly: housing projects. And there's an overlap between those 2.

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barrycassilly: The the lot that we're talking about

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barrycassilly: is not one of those properties. It's it's it's not a a property that would be targeted ironically, because bridge housing is there.

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barrycassilly: If rich housing is gone tomorrow. that property immediately goes to the top of the list. Well, I've been told informally. It goes to the top of the list.

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barrycassilly: and we'll be on people's desks to be dedicated to a new

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barrycassilly: usage.

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barrycassilly: And there's a lot of concern in the community with people who are familiar with this, that the that it could be assigned a new usage

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barrycassilly: that the the community might find

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barrycassilly: a lot more distasteful for those people to do than bridge housing. you know. But we also have the you know, we're dealing with a different environment now a little bit, because we have a new Council person.

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barrycassilly: you know. Obviously Mike Bonnet had violated every covenant

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barrycassilly: that the city had put in writing to the neighborhood with how the bridge housing a facility would be handled But trace is in office, and she's doing things differently She's re-establishing those covenants, and like the area being cleaned of

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barrycassilly: encampments nearby the bridge facility is is one of those things

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barrycassilly: so it's very complicated

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barrycassilly: that this being brought up again the permanent usage of the facility.

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barrycassilly: And I think that there's motivation, a lot of people's parts to start the discussion back up on what we would do with this lot permanently

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barrycassilly: in order for the community to regain control

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barrycassilly: of the process, or at least have a a a critical seat at the table in determining

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barrycassilly: what happens with the property. Given that this in right in the middle of that.

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barrycassilly: So I just wanted to

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barrycassilly: sort of add that contextualization.

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Michael Jensen: All right. I see there's actually someone from L. A metric. Thank you, Barry. There's someone from Ellie Metro Here, Marie Sullivan.

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): Hi, everyone My name is Marie Sullivan. I was asked really last minute by the Council Office to

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): come to this meeting and present, so I don't have a presentation per se.

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): because it was really

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): short notice. And I apologize. If you hear

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): background noise. My kids are

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): watching television so that I can be here, but just wanted to kind of jump in and

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): give a quick status update. I am new to the project, so I don't have all of the background. But we our You know, the development guidelines that were established in 2,019 Pre. Covid still stand today, and

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): the Rfp.

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): To continue the

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): developer selection for the permanent development will be released this month.

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): So just wanted to give that update that you know we're excited about

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): getting sort of restarted on this on this project, but also continuing with the original project in the original

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): great input that we got from the community for those development guidelines

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): which, of course, prioritizes, artists, uses and

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): walk streets and preservation of the and all kinds of good stuff. So we want it to just kind of

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): bring that to a lot of attention.

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): I'm not sure what was being referred to with this.

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): it being on the top of the list for some other use, because it is going forward with this.

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): Solicitations are permanent

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): development. So just want to do that update

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): from the Council offices here also to yeah, there's a few people here, too, I I would say, I think we're gonna probably do a repeat of this. Just this item a week from today.

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Michael Jensen: So that's enough time for you to prepare a presentation or something like that.

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Michael Jensen: I would be happy to dedicate some time to that a week from tonight.

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): Okay, great.

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Michael Jensen: And if you want, I will send you my

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Michael Jensen: well, you can, if you can email me@shareyoupcatvenicemc.org.

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Michael Jensen: I can set you up with that. But other than that, I mean, it'll be 7 Pm. A week from tonight.

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): Okay?

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Michael Jensen: And there'll be a link on our agenda. But yeah, if you can email me. Then I can

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Michael Jensen: setting the agenda with one. Get up.

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Marie Sullivan (LA Metro, she/her): Alright, Sounds good, Great? Well, thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Okay. i'm gonna start public comment now. So just give me a second to get my stuff watch up here

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and the list of participants.

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barrycassilly: If there's somebody from the Council office, can we? I'm gonna go

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Michael Jensen: go through that right now. one for go. So

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Michael Jensen: the 11 are you there?

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Michael Jensen: Hi, everyone! Yes, i'm! Here am I. Do you want me just to chime in on the public comment. Or do you want to pull the comment to go first, and then I can give you a brief update in terms of. Well, if you want to give an update that's probably helpful for the public before they comment.

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Michael Jensen: But i'll I I mean, if if there's more for you to say after your public comment, I'm happy to put you back on.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: Yeah, i'll differ on in terms of what you think would be best on that front, and i'll do my best answer as much as I can right now, just to kind of get started. My name is one, but I also on the homelessness and housing

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: cordon

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: later for Councilwoman Park.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: and just to put it out there real quick, I'm. Had a planning and land use expert on this front. So any very technical questions I may have to defer, or maybe have our planning team join us next week when you have this again. But I do want to at least give a a brief update in terms of what our office has been doing since the Council woman took office, and

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: as well as our recent meeting with Metro and their team as well. First again. My My name is Montreal, so I am the homelessness and housing Coordinator, and I have been working to kind of with the Councilwoman to utilize and assess all of the resources that we have here in CD. 11 per the last homelessness. Count, if you're not aware

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: we have roughly 1,700 on housed individuals through LCD. 11. We did have the recent homeless discount on those numbers. Aren't. Just yet. So those numbers might just change. But right now that 1,700 number is based off of Losses last account, and their website one of the most important resources right now that

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: not only that that pretty much the whole Council district has is the Abh. Here in Venice. The councilwoman in our office recently met with Metro to discuss 2 of the properties in our district. One of them, real quick, was the cover. Median: this

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: okay, one obviously is this one that we're currently discussing, which is the 154 beds here at the Adh side in venice. A 100 of those are for the homeless and 54 are for transitional youth.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: And here is currently what we know

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: the project timeline right now that we were provided was that they probably won't be breaking ground until 2,027, and that's the earliest to our understanding that it would be breaking ground in terms of starting the project that was recently mentioned. And so our understanding between now and until it actually breaks ground and it goes to the Rfp process, it would most likely

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: remain vacant. We do have a limited timeline on our front in terms of what's gonna happen next in terms of extending the lease or not.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: because we would need to work with Lhasa and the various departments to decompress the site, if it is going to shut down. So we have about 2 weeks to kind of make the the count for the Council women and the various departments to make the call. It's not an overall unilateral decision on that front. We do have the Mayor's team involved. As you know, she's very focused on homelessness as it was mentioned earlier, you know. Obviously, Metro is going to be a part of it, Lhasa, the neighbors and the community. Obviously.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: we want to get involved and get some feedback during them this next

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: few weeks. But we do want to make sure is that everyone provides some feedback. Our team is going to be releasing kind of a community survey, so that we can hear from you all in terms of what has worked, what Hasn't worked. I definitely know that

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: in the past the community process and the overall neighborhood experience has not been the greatest, and the perception overall in terms of the way, and I heard it a little earlier was that essentially the community process. Overall was was a failure on that front, and it does.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: It does help to it, has. It has helped and is servicing a lot of individuals that otherwise would be on the street. But as the Councilwoman has already started. But the Council woman has already started

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: process in fulfilling the the city's initial commitment to the community, especially here in Venice, through that we we want to just keep neighbors and the community kind of

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: aware of kind of the 2 options that we're going to explore. Obviously, it could be just. It's going to decompress. It shuts down, and then, you know, Metro will go through its process of development, and, as I just briefly mentioned it on what we were told. It probably won't break around until 2,027 at the early

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: The council woman has requested that they try and look at that timeline, and compress it a little fast or not, compress it, but expedited as fast as they can. But

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: we haven't been given any any assurances just yet, as we just met with them about a week and a half ago or so. But that is a request that the councilwoman asked us to see if there is a faster timeline than 2,027. But we haven't been given any updates as a as of yet.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: and it's

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: we want to. I'm sorry. I just briefly. And one of the other things that I did want to mention in terms of again. The other option would be that if it does shut down some of the resources around it that

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: are lost in terms of the additional funding with our Abh side and the Enforcement zone around it as well as it could have an impact on some of the recent 41 18

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: motions and signage that will be posted as a lot of you might be aware we do have to meet a certain amount of bed counts, and right now this is one of the biggest, As I mentioned earlier assets and or resources we have. When it comes to meeting our bed, count, we continue to explore additional locations throughout the district, both

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: actually throughout the whole district to get more of those beds online, whether it be permanent or interim housing. But for now, in these next 2 weeks I really we really want to engage the neighbors in the community in terms of getting feedback to what has worked, what Hasn't worked.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: and ultimately I know there were issues over the last couple of years with, as I mentioned, some of the commitments that were made from the city to the residents; but as the councilwoman promised, she, the one of the first things she did was try and uphold that initial

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: promise that was made to the community. And over the last 2 months we've been really focused on keeping in the Enforcement Zone within compliance. I do know that every so often there are some

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: issues that arise here and there, but we do have the resources that are connected to the Abh that allow us to overall, keep compliance around the around the facility. So right now we really do want to hear from you. All the councilwoman has not made a

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: commitment either way right now until we we hear back from from the residents and the neighbors. Some of you have reached out to us already, and provided some some feedback and some general concerns that I think we can.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: No, I don't think I I know we can address moving forward, but we really do hope to both engage the your

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: for committee and the overall B and C. As well as the immediate neighbors around the area, to a address some of those concerns, and be again just make everybody aware of

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: of the 2 important choices that we do have to make. So with that i'll I'll kick it back and answer as many questions as I as I can.

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Michael Jensen: Thank you on it, and I I really appreciate you attending our meeting tonight, and especially on such short notice. I know I I think I only told you about this earlier this week.

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Michael Jensen: So I think I wanna open it up to public comment. And, Jim, I see your hand. I'll take you with public comment.

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Michael Jensen: and one i'm just gonna lower your hand here. Let's see

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I can't do that. But

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Michael Jensen: so i'll start through public comment. Let me just get the clock up here

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Michael Jensen: and can everyone see the clock?

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Oh, my!

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Michael Jensen: Not hearing anyone say they can.

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Michael Jensen: All right. We'll start with

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Michael Jensen: Jim. Go ahead.

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jim murez: Yeah, thank you. I would like to see the Joint Development Project go forward as quickly as possible. I live within 500 feet of the project, so I can't discuss it at the board, because i'm on that committee that I can here in public comment.

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jim murez: I think that that the original project concept

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jim murez: was a very good one; that the project itself needed to be sustainable on its own merit without having outside funding, which meant a lot of things had to happen.

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jim murez: I was very involved in the process, and and i'm very familiar with the project. I think that it also offers a great parking opportunity for preferential parking in the community, and that's not one of the things that Mta really wanted to hear, but they are a transportation facility.

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jim murez: and the property was deeded to them for $1 back in 1,902, under the condition that they would provide transportation services to the community.

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jim murez: And and so I think that those those kinds of considerations need to be resurfaced and discussed in the community openly.

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jim murez: and we need to take a look at the project from the start and and get a good design there that will service everyone in the best possible way, including affordable housing, which doesn't necessarily mean that it can't be seniors or artists. Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Alright, thanks, Jim Heidi.

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heidi: Hi, guys!

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heidi: So I think it's naive to think that we're gonna sue or fight or complain our way out of the bridge shelter, and we need to be realistic, because if we close it down, the land is going to be gobbled up and grabbed as part of the Mayor's emergency declaration.

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heidi: and you know, make no mistake. That land will be used to shelter people that, said the concept of bridge housing is a decent one, and it certainly is a necessary one today, and we've got we're dealing with this humongous humanitarian crisis. And clearly we need to provide a path so that people can get off the streets, and we can end. You know the era of encampments that we've been suffering through.

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heidi: Nothing good is happening for people either housed or unhoused in those encampments.

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heidi: The city promise to make the host community better, safer and cleaner in exchange for hosting bridge housing. Obviously that didn't happen, you know Bonn, and failed all of us, and he promised safety and security and recovery, and he promptly delivered none of it but that hasn't been the case for bridge housing everywhere in Los Angeles.

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heidi: During Covid, a few years back I personally visited and photographed each of the projects in Los Angeles. I think it was 18 of them at the time, and virtually all of them delivered on their promise to help both the community and the enhanced, and despite some rumors, many of them are located in residential neighborhoods. So, as I said, the idea, bridge housing is a decent one, and it was executed horribly here. But it's a new day, and thankfully we have new leadership. Our new Council woman, Tracy Park, she's committed to addressing home.

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heidi: This is the emergency. It is, and a humane way, and she's already made a huge impact around the bridge project in Venice. So the encampments are gone. The people who lived in them are now in safe shelter. The neighborhood is healing, and so we're the people who used to sleep on the streets. So I think we need to get and make the project. A success

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heidi: like it has been in other districts. We have every reason to trust her to do the job right, and we need to allow her the opportunity to keep the promises that bon and broke.

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heidi: So I say, we work with what we've got with a leader we can trust, and let's spend our energy working to make bridge housing work. Let's repair our community and let's save some lives together.

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Michael Jensen: Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Cj: a call.

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CJ Cole: Okay, I think we have 2 issues here, and I don't know which one we're discussing. First of all, we have the issue of bridge housing and what's gonna happen in the near future.

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CJ Cole: Secondly, we have the whole issue of the joint development program.

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CJ Cole: and I do think that we're further along in this joint development program than anybody real license. They have already done the Rf. The IQ. And they already, I guess, to do the Rfp. So you know, I think we've got to look at what we're gonna spend our time on.

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CJ Cole: Is it going to be.

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CJ Cole: You know the bridge housing, or is it going to be what's going to happen in the future, and they are 2 totally different things. And

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CJ Cole: frankly. I I don't even know

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CJ Cole: I I don't know what your purpose of this call issue discussion is.

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CJ Cole: if you could tell me that would be great.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, thanks, Tj. But am I still on? Can Can you hear me, or do they get me

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: just real quick. Cj: I. Yes, you are right. There are 2 kind of. There are 2 things here at at hand, and for me right now it's the more near future in terms of do we, in short, extend the lease, or do we

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: allow it to sunset, and therefore we have to start the decompression of it, and wait until the long term process happens. So, in short, right now, my

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: my role, right now, at least in in attending right now is to try and address the near future issue with whether it stays open or the least is whether we extend the lease or we start the decompression. So, as I mentioned over the next 2 weeks for the near future or the immediate future, not even near is what does the community want to see and get feedback in terms of a should we extended? And if we

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: do what I've been the pros and cons ideally for me, you're looking at now that we, the councilwoman, has committed to fulfilling that initial community promise that was made by the city and the previous administrations, both the May previous Mayor as well as the Council representative that was here before. And

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: do we extend that? Because, in short, I have 154 individuals that I need to work with with the Lhasa team to see whether or not they are going to have a home here for a while longer, or we need to start the decompression. So i'd really like to just put it out there right now that the Council woman really wants feedback from again. This.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: maybe the immediate neighbors in terms of, should we continue to operate and provide this crucial service that that we need here in the district.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: the long term. That's a bigger discussion with Metro and everyone that I think everyone kind of generally understands in terms of what will happen in Metro can can speak on that a little bit more next week. I guess my role right now is in the more immediate future getting feedback, so that ultimately I can go back and advise the Council woman on what we've heard, and what the community is saying, so that she can make the decision. As I said, with some of our other community partners.

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Michael Jensen: Thanks, for I keep going through the public comment. Daryl: do fine.

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Darryl DuFay: Thank you

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Darryl DuFay: to one, I say. Thank you. Thank you. What we have been list gone through for the last years is not being listened to is in terms of this in terms of the

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Darryl DuFay: project for the homeless. I agree with Heidi.

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Darryl DuFay: but we need to also look at what we have there. Why, it didn't work. What caused that?

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Darryl DuFay: And to restore

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Darryl DuFay: that which was lost with bonnet. The the community needs to be heard.

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Darryl DuFay: I I went. I went through all of the Mta joint development policies, all their workshops, and everything else. For a number of years I've been through that.

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Darryl DuFay: But you are absolutely right. The current thing is to make a decision for 150 people.

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Darryl DuFay: 100 adults. and

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Darryl DuFay: 50, 18 to 24 year olds. So I so look forward

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Darryl DuFay: to having the community involved in what's? Going? On. Thank God for Tracy Park! Thank you

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: one quick point of correction there, Daryl. It's a 100. It's a 54 youth. Just to just to be clear. It's a 100 unhoused and fifty-

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: for you, so I don't want to cut anybody short on that front. But yes, as I mentioned, we will have a survey that will be going out

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: shortly by the end of the week I'm. Hoping so that we can get more of that feedback and myself and some of our team can make ourselves readily, steadily available to to further discuss.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: and any thoughts concerns that may come up from the from the community. If you can participate through the survey.

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Darryl DuFay: Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Moving on Shawn O'brien.

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Sean Obrien: Oh, great thanks! So I wasn't going to speak until I heard one speak what i'd like him to bring next week if he can't answer it Tonight

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Sean Obrien: is the transparency, the numbers, the hard numbers.

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Sean Obrien: What is? What is the occupancy right now? What has it been month by month?

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Sean Obrien: Because what we've learned through the years is that the place has been half empty.

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Sean Obrien: regardless of Covid restrictions or whatever we need to know that we need to know how many people actually went through the system and actually got housing. Oh, these are all things that path should be providing us. We've been asking for years for transparency.

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Sean Obrien: We had a guy from Bonnan's office that periodically would give us updates. and I would love to see that every year we business as a profit, and was

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Sean Obrien: Oh, excuse me, a profit and loss statement, and that's what I don't know what else to call it. Let us know the hard numbers.

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Sean Obrien: What?

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Sean Obrien: How many people went through the system, how many people got kicked out, how many police officers had to arrive there on emergency calls.

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Sean Obrien: how many people got helped? How how many vacancies there are? And has it been worthwhile? And that's just what I want to say. If you don't want, if you don't have the information tonight. Please bring it next week. Thank you.

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Yeah, Shawn. I don't have the overall numbers in terms of, I guess, from the beginning to

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: from when it first started. But I did have an in-depth meeting earlier this week with Pat themselves, and as of since my tenure, here, which is only been now a month, but to my understanding, as of all year, it has been at full capacity. About 2 weeks ago my

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: and one of my colleagues. We're trying to assist a senior who was out in the cold. We're trying to to get the individual in, and we thought the Abh would have had some space because I had initially heard some of the same things you heard, Shawn, but they were at capacity with

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: essentially 2 people waiting already to to go in. So to my understanding, they have relatively been at capacity on both.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: since both the unhouse, especially the take youth that has been at capacity. So those bets have been crucial again in servicing the unhoused here in CD 11. Do those numbers fluctuate? Yes, I i'm not gonna.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: I'm not gonna lie about that for sure. But I do know that there's been a difference between when there was again some of the broken promises to the community around it, and what has transpired more recently since the Council woman and the mayor partnered up to again fulfill those initial commitments to the community. But, to in short, answer your question, Shawn. Yes, I can

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: as path to provide us some of those numbers.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, moving on Vicki holiday.

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Vicki Halliday: Thanks, Michelle. Just briefly. I live about 30 yards from the front gate of bridge housing.

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Vicki Halliday: The broken promises made this neighborhood suck. It has gotten better since. Inside, safe. The encampments are gone. The police are allowed to actually

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Vicki Halliday: and for some ordinances. Now.

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Vicki Halliday: if bridge housing is thrown out.

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Vicki Halliday: and there's a bridge of time between bridge housing being gone.

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Vicki Halliday: and Metro putting a shovel in the ground.

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Vicki Halliday: I don't think that Mayor Bass is going to just let that lot sit there. But meanwhile, because bridge housing is gone. We are going to have lost our 41 18 signs, our sex, z status. All the things that got got us cleaned up, that allowed

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Vicki Halliday: bass and part to clean us up.

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Vicki Halliday: So there's sort of a a bridge, a funny term, a bridge between the end of the lease, and it being empty

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Vicki Halliday: and shovel going in the ground. We could get

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Vicki Halliday: safe camping there safe, parking there. That would be far less monitored and regulated than bridge housing. So I just want to point that out. I don't want to lose the 41 18 signs around here. Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Thanks, Vicki.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: Yeah, thanks, Vicki. I mean, I that was more of a comment, and I I don't think I can dispute any of that. As I mentioned earlier, there.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: There is additional funding that is attached to the Abh to provide the additional services for our care, plus clean ups around the Abh, which is weekly, as well as some of the engage

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: with our Lpd teams as well. We're also working to enhance a lot of those services through our office and overlap them to again as i'll, I'll keep on repeating, to to continue keeping that initial promise that was made to the neighbors in the in the community when this facility was first put in here.

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Michael Jensen: All right, Yolanda.

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1310****690: Okay. Can you hear me?

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1310****690: This is Yolanda. Can you hear me?

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1310****690: Hello, Yes, yes, we are good to hear you. Okay, Very good. Okay. One brought up a very interesting comment. Everybody that has made comments are very, very important.

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but

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1310****690: Juan said that there are a couple people waiting to go into this bridge housing. Can you correct me on that? The reason is because all of a sudden i'm starting to see little clean tent going up around

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1310****690: here on Venice, on the corner of Abbott Kenny in Venice. and I asked one of them. That's that's still sleeping under the the canopy of the bus. Stop.

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1310****690: I asked a friend to ask him, where did he come from? He's waiting to go into the bridge housing. I'd like to know what is going on. And who's bringing them back in? Because we have

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1310****690: mit ctl and some over there on Venison Pacific, and they're starting to spring up around my home, and i'd like to find out what resources if it's taken away, what kind of resources are going to be taken away. Thank you. 150.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: Hi, Linda. So I don't know if you're exactly within the Abh Enforcement zone, so there is some funds that is attached to all our abh homes and projects that allows us to again keep compliance within a certain section around the

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: around the Abh. Since we have had compliance over the last 2 on since the councilwoman and the mayor did the insight safe

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: our resources that they for the most part, on Thursdays I have been able to start expanding them a little bit more. Some of you are familiar with that. We started now, including Ozone and Speedway, and

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: we're starting to kind of be, since we continue to keep the location relatively within compliance. Around the Aba zone and within the Aba zone we are starting

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: to use some of those resources which is our care plus teams, which is the dedicated team that comes and ensures and helps us clean and gain compliance around the Abh site. Since we've kept it in there they come out all on Thursdays to keep compliance, since it's been in compliance, i'm able to start expanding the footprint just a little bit more. I can't go too far out of it, because again, there are funds that are directly tied to the Abh, and those

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: dollars are earmarked for the zone specifically, and we can't do. I can't really send them. Let's just say to West La Area, because that that would go against what the funding is for. So some of the in terms of the wait list. It's not

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: exactly a wait list per say like me, and you are used to in terms of like oh, there's a wait list. It's. Those 2 were reserved for individuals that are from the district, so that individual may have qualified for it, and through the coordinated entry system

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: was matched to come in, and they just either couldn't make it that day, and needed they'll hold that bed for them for 24, essentially 24 h or less. So when we were trying to get that individual in kind of immediately that one night

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: someone had someone in the district had, or in the general area had already been matched to that bed, so it was saved for them to come in either that

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: right or the next morning, so the individual that we kind of identified to to try and take in could not go in because someone had been matched just before them. So with the individual that maybe you interacted with

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: could have came from. I don't know where they would have came. There's different stories, not not in some not innocent stories, but someone always has different reasons why they're out or what they've been told. But if you can give me more information on that, I can definitely have our outreach teams

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: follow up with them and and figure out if they are on the list to get in. But again overall we need more beds. So it is possible. You know, as I mentioned earlier, we have 7

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: 1,500 unhoused individuals living in the streets of CD. 11, and this is only again a 100 beds and 54 for our youth. So it is possible that some people do want to go in. We just do not have the beds just yet.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: So it is possible that you were told that, and they're in the Q. And in the system, because overall we do need more beds all throughout the district. Not just here in Venice.

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1310****690: Yeah, but not only in our district. We have a big city, and we have a big county. So what's happening with that.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: so I can speak for the rest of the city and the county. But it is our understanding that everyone is, does need to pull their weight, and is looking to, and they all have some of their interim housing, as well as some of their abhs throughout the district. I do know that the Council woman is committed to making sure that the city overall meets its goal. But more importantly, that CD. 11 meets its goal in trying to get as many people the opportunity to get indoors and into housing as best they can.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: and, as I mentioned as of our most recent count, in which we have numbers, for there are roughly, 1,700 on housed individuals in CD. 11.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: We do want to make sure that every Council office pulls its weight overall throughout the city itself, but on the councilwoman, and our team is focused on the 1,700 that we currently have here in the district.

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barrycassilly: Mikhail, we can't hear you.

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Michael Jensen: Sorry we've got one more public comment from the puppet.

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-Puppet: Yes. and i'm very surprised and shocked that you people had enough sense to vote for the park puppet instead of the darling puppet. Let's get everybody in venison here.

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Yeah.

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-Puppet: And as you know, Katie or a slosty has sold you out. she votes in favor of homeless criminals. So you need to send all of your homeless

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-Puppet: over to that lady. She loves them

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yummy on me on. Yeah.

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-Puppet: now I will bring my friend homeless. Billy will not talk to you.

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-Puppet: Go ahead, sir. Oh, yeah. Oh.

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-Puppet: I I text everybody. I I came from New York 2 years ago. I got a bench warrant, so I came out here, and

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-Puppet: I get gr I get. I get food stamps.

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-Puppet: and i'm like I'm making about 3,500 a month living in my tent. Thank you. You people are so fucking stupid, you know. I I I love you taxpayers out here, man, but

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-Puppet: I but this coat puppet he's trouble. Why?

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-Puppet: Because if you shut down these Bridge House things.

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-Puppet: then i'm going to tell everybody back home not to come to L. A. Anymore. If you do that, so make sure you keep it open so we can keep importing more cripples, cycle pads, rapist thieves and muggers into your community.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: Okay, yeah, I I just think that there's a general misunderstanding of the process from our puppet friend. But more than happy to continue. I wouldn't. I wouldn't even

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Michael Jensen: get inside that head. Okay, committee discussion. Do you guys want to add anything? We are about 2 h in the meeting.

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lauren siegel: It seems to me if we're gonna have this discussion again next week, maybe we should hold off and do it. Then.

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Michael Jensen: Yeah, I would. I I think that's that's fine, unless I mean if if anyone else wants to add anything, I would also

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: it would be good if we could at least get some feedback, either. If not now, it may be, reach out so that we could be better prepared with our team for next week as well. But yeah.

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Michael Jensen: Yeah. Well, I guess one. Let me give you my 2 cents on, because I I want this to be less of a focus of what's currently going on there, I mean, that's it's not that that's not important.

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Michael Jensen: but but it if it sounds like some people here are a little unclear as to what the operations are, and I I think part of that is the it was an opaque pitch from the from the get go.

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Michael Jensen: But I think, having an understanding about.

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Michael Jensen: You know who's in there? How many people are in there? Month to month? I think that was one of the questions from Shawn

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Michael Jensen: what the I mean. There are ambulances and fire trucks there like every other day. and

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Michael Jensen: what is going on in there, and what is going on in terms of changing that

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Michael Jensen: I I think probably people around it want to know that or know about that. And then what are the new, like? All of the conditions that were originally promised.

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Michael Jensen: What's being

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Michael Jensen: fulfilled now, so that we can look to like a Punch list of things that like, okay. This was before completely ignored by the Council Office

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Michael Jensen: that we're doing a 180 on that now, and we're forcing it. So whether it's special, clean up, or whatever it is, I think that would be helpful.

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Michael Jensen: So we can have some

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Michael Jensen: comparisons to contrast what our

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Michael Jensen: old experience was with this place.

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barrycassilly: Mikhail.

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Michael Jensen: Yes.

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barrycassilly: so this is Barry, I I would also say, I think it's fabulous that, like Juan is here, and also that I know somebody probably like called her while she was a serving dinner to her family, but that Marie was here from the Mta.

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barrycassilly: But I think if we're coming back next week.

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barrycassilly: it would be great if we, as you know, the part of the neighborhood group to get some outreach done

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barrycassilly: so as many people as possible know this discussion is happening and can participate next week.

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barrycassilly: you know. I think we should talk to Seamless. He's the outreach officer. I think we should make that a job one for ourselves.

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Michael Jensen: Everybody tell 10 friends.

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Michael Jensen: No. But anyway, i'll make that my job. Well, no, I there I was, I mean I was. I was joking, but i'm also not really. I mean that this is an issue that I think is near and dear to a lot of people, and unfortunately, you know, I I imagine some people were at tonight's

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Michael Jensen: at Tonight's a, you know. Meet the candidate forum. But

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Michael Jensen: the next week, hopefully, there's no conflict, and we can have even more more people here.

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Michael Jensen: I would. I hope everyone has also looked at the materials on this, because I do want to talk while I think you know the existing. What's there now? Bridge Bridge? Home is important

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Michael Jensen: for the permanent

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Michael Jensen: a project there is, I think, even more important.

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Michael Jensen: and I hope we can have start talking about what that concept looks like next time.

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barrycassilly: Great.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: Yeah. And as part of that I can, if if we coordinate in terms of what that agenda might look like for next week to respect everybody's time overall and make sure sure we're ready. I can work an invite path, or maybe you guys should invite path to be able to

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: come and explain some of these things, and maybe we can give them a heads up in terms of some of the questions that the community and the committee might have, so that we can invite them to to come and attend as well. Metro is already committed. Our office is committed, and I think, between at the very least between us 3, we can

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Michael Jensen: get to answering most of all the questions and concerns that the community might have, and you can hear it more directly from that'd be great and one for me today. Do you mind just getting in? Can you get all sorry to cut you off. But do you mind just notifying path now? I'll get you the agenda as soon as I can.

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Michael Jensen: but just give them a heads up. So so it's on their radar. And if you want to put me on an email thread with

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Michael Jensen: with the people you'd like, I i'm happy to send them a a formal invite.

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Juan Fregoso - CD 11: Yeah, that that shouldn't be a problem. We'll connect with everyone and we'll, we'll make it happen.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, with that, we're at the end of the agenda. So i'm going to adjourn the meeting. Thank you, everyone.

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Michael Jensen: and see you in a week.

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Corinne baginski: Thank you.