WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.580 --> 00:00:02.790 jim murez: In the street. 2 00:00:07.060 --> 00:00:12.460 jim murez: I thought I have to start this zoom. Well, i'll. I'll fix one in on my way back. 3 00:00:13.360 --> 00:00:15.580 Yeah, I mean as soon as 4 00:00:15.900 --> 00:00:19.280 jim murez: so i'll just 5 00:00:20.910 --> 00:00:24.490 jim murez: I. If I had business on that side of town I would give you a ride. 6 00:00:25.040 --> 00:00:32.020 jim murez: Yeah, sure. it's a long drive. No, not right 7 00:00:32.830 --> 00:00:34.070 by this stuff. 8 00:00:51.370 --> 00:00:53.740 jim murez: Yeah, I've been thinking, how can we get you involved 9 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:57.910 jim murez: involved in 2020? 10 00:00:59.210 --> 00:01:00.680 jim murez: You would love it. 11 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:07.270 jim murez: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So call your 12 00:01:08.720 --> 00:01:09.390 jim murez: all right. 13 00:01:09.600 --> 00:01:11.530 jim murez: Yeah. 14 00:01:12.010 --> 00:01:14.840 jim murez: I don't know where this person is. I mean, I needed to 15 00:01:15.890 --> 00:01:19.910 jim murez: start their meeting, and they're not coming on launch. Well. 16 00:02:14.970 --> 00:02:15.810 jim murez: Melanie 17 00:02:16.020 --> 00:02:18.820 jim murez: Roxanne has something else she has to do. 18 00:02:24.500 --> 00:02:26.700 jim murez: We're not doing anything with it 19 00:02:28.260 --> 00:02:31.730 jim murez: in the meantime and asked me to start a zoom call, and she's not 20 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:34.580 jim murez: picking up, so I don't know what's going on. 21 00:02:35.880 --> 00:02:37.840 Yeah. 22 00:04:05.990 --> 00:04:07.300 Robin Murez: Good morning. 23 00:04:08.550 --> 00:04:10.670 Robin Murez: Can you hear me? You should be able to hear me, Jim. 24 00:04:11.180 --> 00:04:12.920 jim murez: Yeah, I can hear you. Can you hear me? 25 00:04:13.040 --> 00:04:21.769 Robin Murez: Yeah. So this is a new computer that I got 26 00:04:22.790 --> 00:04:25.700 jim murez: from my laptop. But give me a minute. 27 00:04:25.850 --> 00:04:30.590 Robin Murez: Okay, yeah, I couldn't. I'm: i'm over at Scott Mayor's house and 28 00:04:30.740 --> 00:04:35.650 Robin Murez: didn't know, and I typed in his password wrong first. That's what was the 29 00:04:36.070 --> 00:04:39.040 Robin Murez: Jim says. Hello, Scott. Hi, Jim! 30 00:04:40.110 --> 00:04:42.620 jim murez: Tell him. I miss him at the farmer's market. 31 00:04:44.520 --> 00:04:54.020 jim murez: So you're the only one here so far. I'm going to make you host and i'm going to leave the meeting. If you have a problem, call me back. 32 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:58.430 Robin Murez: Okay, thanks. You will have to promote all the people yourself. 33 00:04:58.770 --> 00:05:02.540 Robin Murez: Okay, By the way, we're meeting with Tracy Park today. 34 00:05:02.580 --> 00:05:08.970 jim murez: You what? I have a meeting with Tracy Park today. Oh, good luck. Don't: Be aggressive. 35 00:05:09.270 --> 00:05:10.930 Robin Murez: Don't be too aggressive. Okay. 36 00:05:12.060 --> 00:05:12.790 Robin Murez: Yep. 37 00:05:20.100 --> 00:05:25.110 jim murez: Okay. You're now the host. I'm going to sign off the meeting, and you'll just take over the controls. 38 00:05:25.420 --> 00:05:36.800 Robin Murez: Okay, perfect. So you have to promote everybody else. You want to panelists and do your own screen sharing and whatever else you want to do. Okay, I've got it. 39 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:38.370 Oh. 40 00:05:38.550 --> 00:05:40.900 Robin Murez: there you go. That's bad. Yeah. 41 00:05:41.290 --> 00:05:44.940 Robin Murez: yeah, I have to get situated. Okay, thanks, Jim. 42 00:05:47.550 --> 00:05:50.450 jim murez: They just don't have any erotic art in the background. 43 00:05:50.620 --> 00:05:54.250 Robin Murez: Right? Hey? Come on, i'm at Scott's house. That could be difficult. 44 00:05:54.440 --> 00:05:55.150 jim murez: Yeah. 45 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:56.980 Robin Murez: Okay, bye, bye. 46 00:05:59.230 --> 00:06:11.740 Robin Murez: But did you hear what Jim said? Well, first he said, he misses you at the farmer's market. and then he said that I shouldn't have any erotic art in the background. Because and I said, Well, that's difficult. I'm at Scott's house. 47 00:06:13.310 --> 00:06:17.380 Robin Murez: What's behind me? 48 00:06:17.760 --> 00:06:23.870 Robin Murez: That's the one that went viral. That's the one I had a great for for 49 00:06:23.960 --> 00:06:24.810 Robin Murez: what is it? 50 00:06:25.460 --> 00:06:40.370 Robin Murez: Oh, which 10, yeah, yeah. And I had to take that one in the back there that penis comes off. The one in the hallway got a, and then she said to me: She did very nice, she said. You know I I understand my. 51 00:06:40.510 --> 00:06:56.860 Robin Murez: you know my advanced team had made you grape all the penis pictures, and they said, Yes, uses. Do they think I don't know something about Venus's? It was really funny. 52 00:06:58.500 --> 00:07:03.500 Robin Murez: Let's see if that works. Oh, so actually, what we might do 53 00:07:03.810 --> 00:07:07.110 Robin Murez: is, I think it's just going to be Betsy on the zoom. 54 00:07:07.640 --> 00:07:22.500 Robin Murez: and once she's here, and then, son, you're supposed to arrive in person. Tim is here. He'll come in in a moment. Just redo it in at the office 55 00:07:23.220 --> 00:07:27.070 Robin Murez: just. I was just thinking so once Betsy comes on. 56 00:07:27.660 --> 00:07:32.540 Robin Murez: then we will be able to. 57 00:07:34.060 --> 00:07:40.520 Robin Murez: I have a quorum. So 58 00:07:42.150 --> 00:07:45.470 Robin Murez: you said Jim was here. 59 00:07:45.740 --> 00:07:59.370 Robin Murez: So yeah, I see we've got a couple of guests. Scott, Scott, I just a let, i'm allowing you to talk, and oh, Betsy is here. So, Betsy, I am going to 60 00:07:59.580 --> 00:08:02.730 Robin Murez: promote you to panelist. 61 00:08:05.960 --> 00:08:12.060 Robin Murez: and so i'll ask you to unmute. 62 00:08:14.310 --> 00:08:15.780 Robin Murez: and 63 00:08:17.090 --> 00:08:19.730 Robin Murez: their new shoes should be unmuted. 64 00:08:21.220 --> 00:08:30.150 Robin Murez: Oh, that's he's g10, no! Here she is over as a panelist. Okay, so, Betsy, you need to unmute. 65 00:08:34.400 --> 00:08:41.390 Robin Murez: Oh, and I don't have a copy of the agenda in front of me. 66 00:08:42.740 --> 00:08:45.240 Robin Murez: So we're just waiting for 67 00:08:48.220 --> 00:08:56.950 Robin Murez: Tim to arrive. He's out front and let's see. I'm pulling up the agenda on my computer. 68 00:08:57.390 --> 00:09:00.170 Robin Murez: I wonder if there's a way I can 69 00:09:02.460 --> 00:09:04.460 Robin Murez: I don't know if I can show it. 70 00:09:06.670 --> 00:09:08.700 Robin Murez: Betsy, Are you here? 71 00:09:08.740 --> 00:09:18.470 Robin Murez: I'm here. Oh, awesome! Could you do me a favor and follow the agenda? Kind of maybe run to sort of help me run the meeting 72 00:09:19.750 --> 00:09:25.540 Robin Murez: in case i'm not able to, you know, like I just need to make sure we're doing everything that we're supposed to. 73 00:09:25.920 --> 00:09:28.770 betsygoldman: Okay, I have to get a copy of the agenda. 74 00:09:28.890 --> 00:09:33.020 Robin Murez: Okay, I actually kind of have it now, also. But 75 00:09:33.140 --> 00:09:34.660 Robin Murez: yeah, if you can. 76 00:09:36.530 --> 00:09:38.620 Robin Murez: You could pull it up under the 77 00:09:39.750 --> 00:09:45.480 Robin Murez: You know the Venice? Well, either my email or the website, the Venice Neighborhood Council website. 78 00:09:46.420 --> 00:09:51.890 betsygoldman: Well, i'm gonna try to get it from your email from yesterday. Okay. 79 00:09:52.460 --> 00:09:57.050 Robin Murez: Yeah, that just links you to the website. So it's all the good. 80 00:09:57.980 --> 00:09:59.470 betsygoldman: I can't do it. 81 00:09:59.520 --> 00:10:04.880 Robin Murez: You can't do it. Okay, I I did pull it up on my screen. I should be able to do it. 82 00:10:05.880 --> 00:10:09.690 Robin Murez: But if I fumble. Don't be upset. Anybody. 83 00:10:10.710 --> 00:10:14.530 Robin Murez: I'm only human. 84 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:17.980 Robin Murez: Okay. So we've got. 85 00:10:20.370 --> 00:10:28.460 Robin Murez: We have a a quorum, actually. But I was hoping that so, Tim Rednick, I know, is here. He just parked. 86 00:10:28.970 --> 00:10:29.790 Robin Murez: and 87 00:10:29.910 --> 00:10:37.240 Robin Murez: we've got 2 attendees. Scott. I'm not familiar with you. Do you want to 88 00:10:37.990 --> 00:10:41.810 Robin Murez: just introduce yourself? Oh, are you gone now? You've gone 89 00:10:42.140 --> 00:10:43.670 Robin Murez: my new sure here? 90 00:10:44.260 --> 00:10:45.200 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yes. 91 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:47.300 Robin Murez: Oh, you can speak. Okay. 92 00:10:47.610 --> 00:10:55.690 Robin Murez: all right. I won't be long. I gotta leave pretty soon. But I wanted to attend and see what's happening. Okay. 93 00:10:56.160 --> 00:11:03.010 Robin Murez: Yeah. So it's hoping that well, we can go ahead and start it's 1004 94 00:11:04.390 --> 00:11:05.910 Robin Murez: here, maybe I'll 95 00:11:07.170 --> 00:11:15.080 Robin Murez: I do a roll call. and i'm also just gonna text, Tim, to come on in. 96 00:11:18.350 --> 00:11:20.610 Robin Murez: So 1 s i'm texting 10. 97 00:11:26.650 --> 00:11:32.660 Robin Murez: Oh, he doesn't text I have to call him oh, and I think that's his phone. Phone. 98 00:11:33.850 --> 00:11:35.590 Robin Murez: It's not a mobile. Okay? 99 00:11:35.630 --> 00:11:39.410 Robin Murez: Well, hopefully, Tim will just be coming in any moment. 100 00:11:39.700 --> 00:11:48.130 Robin Murez: I hope he's not confused as to which house it is. Okay, so, Scott, i'm going to take role. 101 00:11:48.780 --> 00:11:57.610 Robin Murez: So the meeting is called to order at 1004 Scott Mayors. Are you present? 102 00:11:57.990 --> 00:12:00.040 Robin Murez: Okay, Scott's not present. 103 00:12:00.140 --> 00:12:05.070 Robin Murez: Sonya is not here yet, but I believe she will be coming. 104 00:12:05.420 --> 00:12:07.130 Robin Murez: Betsy Goldman, are you here 105 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:08.110 betsygoldman: present. 106 00:12:08.740 --> 00:12:10.340 Robin Murez: Brian? 107 00:12:10.750 --> 00:12:15.520 Robin Murez: He's not showing up. I i'm not sure. I think Brian might have 108 00:12:15.770 --> 00:12:16.960 Robin Murez: some 109 00:12:17.850 --> 00:12:34.320 Robin Murez: illness in the family that has been occupying his time. So Haven't heard from him lately, but when we hear from him it's awesome. And Jim set this up, but he's no longer on the meeting, so we have a quorum. We have myself and Scott and 110 00:12:34.500 --> 00:12:38.990 Robin Murez: Betsy. So the meeting is called to order. 111 00:12:39.020 --> 00:12:51.370 Robin Murez: We can approve the prior minutes review comment and adopt minutes from prior meeting. Does anybody have a comment regarding the prior meeting? Or 112 00:12:51.390 --> 00:12:59.640 Robin Murez: okay? Can you? Can you guys hear Scott? Because he's across the room for me, or else I could go closer to him. 113 00:13:00.400 --> 00:13:04.360 Robin Murez: Great? Yeah, maybe. Come over here. And then I think we could 114 00:13:06.020 --> 00:13:07.100 Robin Murez: even by 115 00:13:07.350 --> 00:13:11.840 Robin Murez: be in the 116 00:13:12.430 --> 00:13:14.610 Robin Murez: That's the Last Supper. 117 00:13:15.590 --> 00:13:17.480 Robin Murez: Yeah, it is 118 00:13:17.580 --> 00:13:23.350 Robin Murez: that that's exactly how it occurred. Right? Yeah. 119 00:13:25.380 --> 00:13:35.940 Robin Murez: Betsy, do you have any comments of the minutes, I think you helped to produce those minutes right? I approve them. Okay, as do I. So the minutes are approved. 120 00:13:36.230 --> 00:13:42.090 Robin Murez: Then, do we have any public comment, Mayor Noose. You are here from the public. Did you want to make any comments? 121 00:13:47.930 --> 00:13:50.260 Robin Murez: Nope, don't hear? 122 00:13:50.420 --> 00:13:55.480 Robin Murez: Maybe she's muted? 123 00:13:55.680 --> 00:13:56.450 Robin Murez: Yeah. 124 00:13:58.520 --> 00:14:10.800 Robin Murez: and gee! I wish Tim were here. Do you want to go out and see if you so he was parked. When you get out to the left. He's got like a silver prius 125 00:14:11.140 --> 00:14:12.700 Robin Murez: after the driveway. 126 00:14:14.510 --> 00:14:23.340 Robin Murez: So Scott's going to check. Oh, mariners, Did you want to make any public comment? Oh, no, thank you okay? So 127 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:29.370 Robin Murez: well with Scott not being here for a moment, we actually don't quite have a quorum. 128 00:14:31.890 --> 00:14:35.020 Robin Murez: So if anybody wants to talk about anything we can. 129 00:14:40.660 --> 00:14:46.240 Robin Murez: I guess? I shouldn't have suggested that he go out and find him. I will get this going. 130 00:14:49.530 --> 00:14:50.390 Robin Murez: No. 131 00:14:51.450 --> 00:14:55.960 Robin Murez: something that we can just mention is that 132 00:14:56.130 --> 00:14:59.510 Robin Murez: I had requested a meeting with our 133 00:14:59.640 --> 00:15:05.290 Robin Murez: wonderful new Council member, Tracy Park. and that 134 00:15:05.490 --> 00:15:08.820 Robin Murez: was granted for today. 135 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:21.530 Robin Murez: and I've invited everyone from our committee to also attend. and we'll be discussing what has been suggested to me as the pros and cons of having 136 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:26.440 Robin Murez: several of us attend versus me going solo. 137 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:28.550 Robin Murez: and 138 00:15:31.800 --> 00:15:36.720 Robin Murez: I don't know if anybody can, and what we will do with that meeting is go over 139 00:15:37.740 --> 00:15:39.210 Robin Murez: projects that 140 00:15:40.190 --> 00:15:49.390 Robin Murez: have come out from this meeting, and prior to the formation of this I mean from this committee, and prior to its formation, that our 141 00:15:49.420 --> 00:15:52.130 Robin Murez: approved by the Neighborhood Council and things that 142 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:54.010 Robin Murez: I think it 143 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:58.930 Robin Murez: it's important for Tracy to be aware of, even if actions need not be taken 144 00:15:59.050 --> 00:16:00.260 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: immediately. 145 00:16:01.690 --> 00:16:08.720 Robin Murez: Oh, my! Oh, okay. here's Scott. He's not there. 146 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:16.740 Robin Murez: Okay. that's strange. So maybe something came up. I don't know. 147 00:16:16.970 --> 00:16:26.510 Robin Murez: But let's. We needed you to actually be able to have a quorum to continue the meeting. So okay, so on our agenda of 148 00:16:27.100 --> 00:16:44.110 Robin Murez: Oh, business! Well, reports from the chair on all the new business. And so what I just reported is that we've got the meeting with Tracy today at noon, and the way it came about was that I requested it, and then I invited it to be also 149 00:16:44.110 --> 00:16:52.210 Robin Murez: everyone from the committee who would like to attend. So why don't? We just go ahead right now, and maybe talk about the pros and cons of having it be 150 00:16:52.690 --> 00:16:55.440 Robin Murez: me solo or everybody. 151 00:16:55.690 --> 00:17:05.170 Robin Murez: So the latest that I heard was I presented that question. Actually, I sent short bios for each of us over to 152 00:17:05.190 --> 00:17:11.230 Robin Murez: Tracy, scheduling per person. Dave cano and 153 00:17:12.270 --> 00:17:16.050 Robin Murez: email to me. Yesterday he had asked me for it, and 154 00:17:17.609 --> 00:17:24.849 Robin Murez: and it included. Let's see. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7, 8, or 7 attendees, possibly. 155 00:17:24.910 --> 00:17:27.369 Robin Murez: but not really that many. 156 00:17:27.420 --> 00:17:31.840 Robin Murez: And he called me back and said: and I said, what do you think you know? 157 00:17:31.890 --> 00:17:37.580 Robin Murez: Should we come in as the whole committee, or what's best. And he said, Well, you know 158 00:17:37.970 --> 00:17:48.500 Robin Murez: he kind of said come solo, because it can be too confusing to, he said, Well, other people are like me. He said this. 159 00:17:48.600 --> 00:17:51.770 Robin Murez: and we're long winded. And so you won't get anything done. 160 00:17:52.120 --> 00:17:53.920 Robin Murez: And I said, yeah, but 161 00:17:54.290 --> 00:18:04.570 Robin Murez: I also kind of want Tracy to get to no other people. She knows me, and know that these projects are very broadly supported. 162 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:12.590 Robin Murez: and we have an awesome committee. We, or group of people, because it's not just the committee attending it's those who've been participating. So then he said, Well. 163 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:15.060 Robin Murez: what he might recommend is that 164 00:18:15.800 --> 00:18:22.070 Robin Murez: we all come. But kind of I be the spokesperson, and ask everybody to just kind of 165 00:18:22.080 --> 00:18:23.040 Robin Murez: not 166 00:18:23.320 --> 00:18:28.940 Robin Murez: do a lot of talking unless there's a moment to chime in something 167 00:18:29.220 --> 00:18:31.460 Robin Murez: clear and short. 168 00:18:32.360 --> 00:18:35.330 Robin Murez: So what do you guys think? 169 00:18:35.870 --> 00:18:37.770 betsygoldman: I think that's a good idea 170 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:42.610 betsygoldman: for you to be the spokesperson and people there to support you? 171 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:46.040 Robin Murez: How about you, Scott. 172 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:52.410 Robin Murez: I don't think it's. I think, if you go. That's fine. I don't think any of it. I don't have to go. Nobody has to do. 173 00:18:52.650 --> 00:18:56.810 Robin Murez: It's kind of your show. No, I would really like you to be there, though 174 00:18:57.050 --> 00:18:58.660 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: not really. 175 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:16.700 Robin Murez: I mean, if you're you're the one that's spearheading almost all of these, and you've been disposed. Person. You've been pushing everything on your own. And yeah, but with your support, my support is Bob Kiss. No, but it's important in terms of her role 176 00:19:16.700 --> 00:19:27.100 Robin Murez: mit ctl, and, as you know, is to represent the community. And so you are. One more person in the community, and you've been in the community for years, and you've always said how 3, 177 00:19:27.270 --> 00:19:40.330 Robin Murez: you know. Like your statements regarding the Life Car Tower. Of course it needs to be saved. I would just love for you to be there to say that because it's still. 178 00:19:40.380 --> 00:19:41.700 Robin Murez: So I got it. 179 00:19:41.770 --> 00:19:46.080 Robin Murez: I got a call this morning from the reporter, from the Argonaut, who is working on the story. 180 00:19:46.100 --> 00:19:47.130 and 181 00:19:48.140 --> 00:19:56.420 Robin Murez: she is saying that her conversation with beaches and harbors They are still saying they're going ahead with demolition. 182 00:19:57.600 --> 00:19:58.420 Robin Murez: Yeah. 183 00:19:58.640 --> 00:20:06.690 Robin Murez: So you know, we just need to get, you know, just continue to kind of like in our video. I think our our video 184 00:20:07.130 --> 00:20:13.200 Robin Murez: was very strong because several people were quoted. 185 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:27.010 Robin Murez: So please, I think you should. Yeah, but I wasn't I was there. But I wasn't Golden, you were. You were basically the whole the one we did down by the by, the thing. No, not at all. Yeah. But other people were. Yeah. So maybe you should get them. 186 00:20:27.420 --> 00:20:34.750 Robin Murez: Well, okay, we can only have who who we can have right. And so I think who we can have today 187 00:20:35.010 --> 00:20:36.170 Robin Murez: would be. 188 00:20:38.140 --> 00:20:41.650 Robin Murez: Oh, here's Tim, all the drugs must have kicked in. 189 00:20:43.490 --> 00:20:49.760 Robin Murez: Hi! Oh, good. 190 00:20:50.050 --> 00:20:52.180 Robin Murez: So we're just discussing. 191 00:20:52.470 --> 00:20:56.890 Robin Murez: Yeah, it's a little hot there because the sun's coming in. I found 192 00:20:57.590 --> 00:21:05.700 Robin Murez: So Tim Rednick just arrived, founding director of the Venice Ocean Area, and we're just discussing the 193 00:21:05.930 --> 00:21:11.040 Robin Murez: pros and cons of going of my going solo, or having 194 00:21:11.230 --> 00:21:18.200 Robin Murez: several of us go to the meeting today. and I I the more I've learned of it. 195 00:21:18.910 --> 00:21:24.280 Robin Murez: Hearing from Tracy's person yesterday, I feel like he had the right suggestion, and that is 196 00:21:24.630 --> 00:21:28.930 Robin Murez: that we all go that we 197 00:21:31.540 --> 00:21:35.080 Robin Murez: primarily that I be the spokesperson but 198 00:21:35.320 --> 00:21:38.960 Robin Murez: where appropriate everybody chime in? And he said. 199 00:21:39.140 --> 00:21:42.280 Robin Murez: people tend to be long-winded like I am, is what Dave said. 200 00:21:42.390 --> 00:21:48.650 Robin Murez: and he said. So just make sure everybody is brief. 201 00:21:48.690 --> 00:21:53.680 Robin Murez: Why, don't I just send a picture. 202 00:21:53.730 --> 00:22:13.580 Robin Murez: and you know i'm I'm used to speaking and stuff like that. So I don't want to sit there like a mute person. 203 00:22:13.580 --> 00:22:31.460 Robin Murez: These motions have been passed by unanimous vote of the Neighborhood Council, which is kind of phenomenal in itself, because there are people who just like to obstruct anything I say or anything to preserve anything wonderful and historic in Venice, and that's why both of you are long time residents and respect 204 00:22:31.460 --> 00:22:36.690 Robin Murez: historic, wonderful icons, events and art and architecture. 205 00:22:36.900 --> 00:22:51.270 Robin Murez: and I would very much like you to be there. Yeah, but I you know I spent No, i'm not coming, so I spent the day at your request, going down there, and I wasn't even on the video. So so much for wanting me there 206 00:22:51.310 --> 00:23:03.710 Robin Murez: again. I go back. It's your pushing it. It's your show, and there's, you know I've been in Venice since 1965. I have seen a shit show of change 207 00:23:03.790 --> 00:23:24.970 Robin Murez: and I've been to many, many committees of all the various people. You know all the Council members before to the Vnc. And all this sort of thing, and I I think your energy is amazing, and and I don't know. I don't think I can add anything to that. Okay, so what I see that my energy has been 208 00:23:24.970 --> 00:23:28.190 Robin Murez: is coordinating, and it's learning from 209 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:29.230 Robin Murez: everybody. 210 00:23:29.500 --> 00:23:33.400 Robin Murez: and, like the Lifeguard Tower situation, came to me 211 00:23:33.860 --> 00:23:38.830 Robin Murez: completely out of the blue from Todd I had no idea. 212 00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:40.230 Robin Murez: And 213 00:23:40.600 --> 00:23:44.550 Robin Murez: so, yeah, I 214 00:23:45.320 --> 00:23:47.180 Robin Murez: if it were for 215 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:54.940 Robin Murez: each of you also chiming in and being supportive and saying, yeah, that's the thing to do. 216 00:23:55.190 --> 00:24:00.620 Robin Murez: I don't think I would have had the wherewithal to continue. 217 00:24:00.730 --> 00:24:08.780 Robin Murez: Well, I I did that mailing, and I think we got, you know, many, many, many people responded to that. So, however. 218 00:24:08.860 --> 00:24:13.870 Robin Murez: and you didn't you also speak at one of the you reckon Parks, are you? 219 00:24:14.070 --> 00:24:14.900 Robin Murez: You didn't. 220 00:24:15.100 --> 00:24:31.430 Robin Murez: you would know. And when I was down there in the rain, you know they just cut me. So. Yeah, Well, I mean the whole thing that they're yeah. No, it wasn't, though, and Mickey and I only met Mickey by chance again. I mean. I met each person like just by chance, right? And 221 00:24:31.430 --> 00:24:35.700 Robin Murez: no, we want. We wanted you on the committee also, because you bring 222 00:24:37.550 --> 00:24:39.380 Robin Murez: a respect for 223 00:24:39.810 --> 00:24:46.180 Robin Murez: the art, architecture, community, history. You have a wealth of knowledge that I don't have. 224 00:24:46.670 --> 00:24:55.430 Robin Murez: and so it it's important to me to get your feedback. I mean. So it's from what you told me. You have a half an hour with her. 225 00:24:55.440 --> 00:25:05.960 Robin Murez: and I like what Jim said. You know don't be aggressive. You're gonna list 18 different things. I think you should concentrate on one thing, which is the most thing that's at the top 226 00:25:05.980 --> 00:25:13.630 Robin Murez: and talk about the tower at this point. If you start bringing up all of these other things with their carousel and all these other things. 227 00:25:13.660 --> 00:25:15.910 Robin Murez: she's gonna go. 228 00:25:16.010 --> 00:25:29.200 Robin Murez: And you have to realize she's a brand new brand new. She has no experience in any of the things that usually go there. She would she didn't come from anything before. 229 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:47.420 Robin Murez: so to add this, and then expect her to be attentive and all that I think you get. If you get her attentive on that. One thing I think you'd be very good, and that's why that's all you need to talk about, as far as i'm concerned, I think, to bring up all these other thing you said there was 18 different things. Are you kidding? 230 00:25:47.420 --> 00:26:02.260 Robin Murez: Sure Her headers? Her head will spend. You won't, get anything, so you have to concentrate and bring it down to the one thing that you really want to at this point, and if you can get her to here and be involved without all of the 231 00:26:02.800 --> 00:26:14.710 Robin Murez: you know the background and all it. What we want is to preserve it right. And and if you can get her involved in that, that's all you need. But to bring all those other things in, I think is a mistake. Well. 232 00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:17.020 Robin Murez: I hear you. 233 00:26:17.330 --> 00:26:31.320 Robin Murez: I've also gotten to know Tracy because I started working on her campaign from the day she announced right before, and I actually even did a like a ride along with her. 234 00:26:31.710 --> 00:26:33.040 Robin Murez: and got to chat. 235 00:26:33.210 --> 00:26:37.450 Robin Murez: And so and she came over and did a bike ride with me, or 236 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:42.380 Robin Murez: like Robin Mueres Tour of Venice. So 237 00:26:43.560 --> 00:26:46.300 Robin Murez: okay, so I I put together an outline. 238 00:26:46.800 --> 00:26:50.230 Robin Murez: and i'm told that it's going to be She and 239 00:26:50.260 --> 00:26:52.670 Robin Murez: the 2 Venice rep. So I've never met 240 00:26:53.030 --> 00:26:57.200 Robin Murez: Ashley and somebody else who They've been on the 241 00:26:57.210 --> 00:27:00.430 Robin Murez: neighborhood council zooms, but I've never met him in person 242 00:27:02.060 --> 00:27:04.330 Robin Murez: regarding the lifeguard tower. 243 00:27:05.500 --> 00:27:08.080 Robin Murez: We really just need 244 00:27:09.510 --> 00:27:14.350 Robin Murez: her people to kind of focus on 2 things that were 3 things. 245 00:27:14.980 --> 00:27:17.010 Robin Murez: One is. I sent over 246 00:27:17.220 --> 00:27:23.670 Robin Murez: a motion for her to submit to city Council to make it a monument. 247 00:27:24.090 --> 00:27:27.080 Robin Murez: and this morning I got an email back from. 248 00:27:27.110 --> 00:27:29.050 Robin Murez: They're planning. 249 00:27:30.270 --> 00:27:33.520 Robin Murez: Chief, whatever Jeff Cow saying that 250 00:27:34.620 --> 00:27:35.570 Robin Murez: it's 251 00:27:35.830 --> 00:27:40.540 Robin Murez: written excellently, or whatever I I got form, I got it 252 00:27:40.670 --> 00:27:52.610 Robin Murez: example of how one was written from the La Conservancy. So again i'm just. I'm using feelers to bring in help from all different sources. And 253 00:27:52.890 --> 00:27:58.100 Robin Murez: and so i'm glad that he's already said. Now that he 254 00:27:58.140 --> 00:28:01.090 Robin Murez: realizes that it's properly written. 255 00:28:01.540 --> 00:28:04.200 Robin Murez: And so we need Tracy to understand. 256 00:28:04.350 --> 00:28:08.480 Robin Murez: Please go ahead with this. The reason to go ahead with it is 257 00:28:09.430 --> 00:28:10.390 Robin Murez: one. 258 00:28:10.430 --> 00:28:15.850 Robin Murez: It sort of helps stop demolition. They're supposed to be a moratorium on projects that are landmark 259 00:28:16.040 --> 00:28:16.940 Robin Murez: for 260 00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:23.460 Robin Murez: That's a long involved process. I mean, if you if you have a half an hour with that, with tracing 261 00:28:23.540 --> 00:28:25.910 Robin Murez: all you would want to get from her 262 00:28:26.060 --> 00:28:40.660 Robin Murez: is a stay of execution. Okay, that she's already told me? Has she executed it, though? Has she gone to the to the counter? And and do you have that in writing that they will not demolish it? 263 00:28:40.900 --> 00:28:47.370 Robin Murez: That's all you want to get from her. So okay, so the okay. I don't think she'll give that. 264 00:28:47.410 --> 00:28:52.410 Robin Murez: But I you know, to give that because that's that that's the beginning 265 00:28:52.470 --> 00:29:02.240 Robin Murez: with all this other stuff of. But you know how long it takes to become a monument. Well, not all that sort of thing. Okay, so I've worked. I've talked to the people in the office of historic 266 00:29:02.730 --> 00:29:21.730 Robin Murez: resources, and they said that if she submits the motion that it gets done expedited. There are 2 reasons to do it. One is, it stops demolition 2. Is it grandfathers in any variances that are in the structure of the tower? So right now. The 267 00:29:22.490 --> 00:29:30.810 Robin Murez: the risers of the stairs are 7 and a half inches high, and code only allows 7 inches. So if the monument 268 00:29:30.890 --> 00:29:39.990 Robin Murez: status is designated. Then that will enable that not to have to be rebuilt, which would be a huge savings. So 269 00:29:40.510 --> 00:29:43.100 Robin Murez: okay, the other thing that okay, the third thing 270 00:29:44.250 --> 00:29:46.360 Robin Murez: Did you ever contact 271 00:29:46.990 --> 00:29:53.910 Robin Murez: Heila Bay? Yeah. And what do they? Okay, so that's the other thing that I would like to bring up with her 272 00:29:54.090 --> 00:30:07.390 Robin Murez: is so they contacted me. David Hertz, who was on the board, contacted me, and when he did he said, oh, thank you, Robin, for saving the lifeguard tower. You know, heal the bay would love to have it. 273 00:30:07.420 --> 00:30:09.730 Robin Murez: and I said, that's 274 00:30:09.840 --> 00:30:13.960 Robin Murez: great, but I would like to first see if we can 275 00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:17.500 Robin Murez: have it. Be a a real Venice 276 00:30:18.610 --> 00:30:24.700 Robin Murez: venue that's distinctive. The Lifeguards have always wanted a museum, and 277 00:30:25.040 --> 00:30:31.540 Robin Murez: Tim has the oceanarium which has, like this artistic vent rather than purely scientific. 278 00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:42.150 Robin Murez: And so i'd like to see if we could do that. David would feel the bay back us up if we need like financial backing, you know. Be a guarantor, and he said, Yes. 279 00:30:42.630 --> 00:30:54.600 Robin Murez: So I said, okay, great. And I said, could you would they not sabotage it now? And he said, I can't be Sure, I brought it up, he said, in the Board meeting to let them know about it, and i'm not sure. 280 00:30:55.040 --> 00:30:58.170 Robin Murez: Okay. Then I started hearing from Tracy's people 281 00:30:58.300 --> 00:31:00.670 Robin Murez: that they were going to call 282 00:31:01.170 --> 00:31:05.950 Robin Murez: heal the bay to have a meeting with them. and I was pretty shocked 283 00:31:06.090 --> 00:31:20.340 Robin Murez: because here I feel like we have done all the work to save it, and what her person said to me is Well, they heard about this. I'm like Well, there's no way anybody heard about this except for our doing this. 284 00:31:20.350 --> 00:31:23.860 Robin Murez: So Don't know there's a lot of people I've heard about. 285 00:31:25.270 --> 00:31:28.920 Robin Murez: Not before we made it known 286 00:31:30.130 --> 00:31:37.620 Robin Murez: nobody had heard about it before November 287 00:31:37.740 --> 00:31:49.070 Robin Murez: somewhere around Halloween, I guess, or something, you know Yolanda Gonzales. She brought it up so so I guess it's been on people's, you know, radar for a while. 288 00:31:49.300 --> 00:31:50.630 Robin Murez: There's no chance 289 00:31:50.670 --> 00:32:00.670 Robin Murez: Nobody heal the bay, New David said. He brought it up to the heel of bay board. They did not know. Well, i'm just talking about her. I don't know about that 290 00:32:00.750 --> 00:32:12.690 Robin Murez: from me, cause I started spreading the word, and we started. I started putting it on social media on Facebook. I put the petition out. So when I put that petition out. 291 00:32:12.750 --> 00:32:17.820 Robin Murez: that's when the words and our our goal is to preserve it. Right? Yeah. 292 00:32:18.220 --> 00:32:23.430 Robin Murez: so. And then I go back to what I what I said to this is my personal opinion. 293 00:32:23.570 --> 00:32:25.610 Robin Murez: You the bay. hey. 294 00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:35.820 Robin Murez: is a internationally known, well funded nonprofit, which probably could get a 99 year lease on it. We 295 00:32:36.170 --> 00:32:47.820 Robin Murez: as part of that okay, man, could get special, whatever you want to call it. So that Tim can have his thing there, so the Lifeguards can have their thing there. 296 00:32:48.020 --> 00:32:55.760 Robin Murez: But under their bailey wick, and and it doesn't have to be, you know it could be some sort of thing that the the ease of them 297 00:32:55.880 --> 00:33:00.640 Robin Murez: being able to fund it, and then being able to take it over, immediately 298 00:33:01.730 --> 00:33:07.740 Robin Murez: puts aside all of this other sort of stuff, in my opinion, except that 299 00:33:08.150 --> 00:33:12.970 Robin Murez: it can be done. And so what I said to Tracy's person is. 300 00:33:13.770 --> 00:33:25.710 Robin Murez: I would want to be in the room for the discussion or the heal. The bay. I don't want to be. I don't want us to be squashed absolutely. And and I feel like, yeah, and that's what I was saying to David Hertz is yet. And so I called David back 301 00:33:25.730 --> 00:33:29.200 Robin Murez: and said, yeah, David, let's have a meeting. 302 00:33:29.580 --> 00:33:35.400 Robin Murez: and he, Hasn't called me back. Since 303 00:33:35.420 --> 00:33:39.960 Robin Murez: I think I think what we could find out today is, I think, that Tracy's people have. 304 00:33:40.050 --> 00:33:53.660 Robin Murez: Well. What also outraged me is that Tracey's people were reaching out to have a meeting with Hilda Bay, and they have never reached out to have a meeting with me, and I've given them all of the information and done all of the 305 00:33:53.820 --> 00:33:58.910 Robin Murez: background, all the legal work. And what saved it was the record parks 306 00:34:00.040 --> 00:34:00.740 Robin Murez: like. 307 00:34:06.950 --> 00:34:09.330 Robin Murez: Yeah, they are. 308 00:34:09.350 --> 00:34:10.219 Robin Murez: So 309 00:34:10.489 --> 00:34:16.000 Robin Murez: So i'm just saying that for from an expediency again going back to the meeting today. 310 00:34:16.150 --> 00:34:17.710 Robin Murez: I I 311 00:34:17.750 --> 00:34:25.100 Robin Murez: I don't think any of us. We we would just be window that dressing, as far as I'm concerned. And 312 00:34:26.870 --> 00:34:28.010 Robin Murez: I think 313 00:34:28.150 --> 00:34:31.969 Robin Murez: you know, there's do we want it? Do we want it preserved. 314 00:34:32.090 --> 00:34:35.230 Robin Murez: Yeah, or do we want to have it for 315 00:34:35.469 --> 00:34:46.820 Robin Murez: specifically how it's preserved? So the I think the way to have it preserved is through heel to bay at this point. That's what i'm feeling. 316 00:34:46.830 --> 00:34:59.750 Robin Murez: because okay. So right now, what we need is an update of what the repairs assessment is. So there was a repairs assessment done in 2,014. 317 00:34:59.790 --> 00:35:09.060 Robin Murez: It at that point. They thought it would cost 300,000 to just do the repairs, and then adding a second stairway was going to be another 100,000. 318 00:35:09.590 --> 00:35:12.010 Robin Murez: So I've spoken to actually the 319 00:35:12.050 --> 00:35:21.300 Robin Murez: architect and engineer team that did that, and they could do the update, and that makes the most sense to. They've already done all the work. They'll just go back and update it. 320 00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:25.520 Robin Murez: They said they're estimating the cost of updating that is 15,000. 321 00:35:26.050 --> 00:35:32.730 Robin Murez: So what Tracy's person said is, yeah, I don't know for 15,000. If we should give it a way to heal the bet. 322 00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:38.490 Robin Murez: I don't think so. We can either raise the 15,000, or 323 00:35:38.560 --> 00:35:50.620 Robin Murez: again I contacted. Reckon Parks to ask about Quimby funds, and I have a print out of what the Quimby funds were in 2,020. I haven't yet gotten the current one. But there are funds, and I don't think. As you said, Tracy's new. 324 00:35:50.650 --> 00:36:02.300 Robin Murez: I asked about Quimby funds, and about she doesn't get her funds, I think, until we Quimby is there. But she gets her own discretionary funds, which we don't need, that 325 00:36:02.520 --> 00:36:04.360 Robin Murez: Wendy has millions in it. 326 00:36:04.860 --> 00:36:21.330 Robin Murez: I don't think they knew when I spoke to her staff person. He hadn't thought about. Oh, we've got Quimby funds, he told me. They've got arts funds. Can the historic architecture fall within arts funds? Can we get 15,000 to do the repairs 327 00:36:21.390 --> 00:36:25.920 betsygoldman: assessment. But what? What? What is it that you want from her? 328 00:36:26.310 --> 00:36:27.090 Robin Murez: Well. 329 00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:40.040 Robin Murez: I would like her on this to, and we've also I've applied for a grant that could cover it, which we should hear from. Also, I would like her to one discuss. 330 00:36:40.500 --> 00:36:56.340 Robin Murez: Are those sources of funding, and there's also the Venice Real Property Fund are those sources of funding that she can look at? And can we draw from those and 2? Will she file this motion to have it be landmarked. 331 00:36:56.720 --> 00:36:58.430 Robin Murez: So you 332 00:36:58.660 --> 00:37:03.400 Robin Murez: again, having dealt with a lot of politicians over the years. 333 00:37:03.520 --> 00:37:08.630 Robin Murez: they're very their attention span is about that of an end. 334 00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:27.280 Robin Murez: because they're already listening to all the other things that are going on in their head. The reason i'm saying this when you, when you go to her today. You want to get one thing that she could do, and if that one thing is the landmark status, then that's because if you bring in all of these other things that you know 335 00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:41.620 Robin Murez: this thing, and the and the funding and all that. You will only confuse her, and she won't. She won't be effective. You have to narrow it in for her exactly the thing that will save it at this point, and if that means. 336 00:37:41.970 --> 00:37:45.470 Robin Murez: I think if If 337 00:37:45.550 --> 00:37:53.980 Robin Murez: it means we'll, we'll can she use Quimby funds or Venice real property funds, or 338 00:37:54.250 --> 00:38:03.630 Robin Murez: any other, or the Arts Fund 339 00:38:03.850 --> 00:38:13.840 Robin Murez: updated $15,000 to get the repairs assessment, Updated Boom! That's it. Once we have that in hand. we will know then what's 340 00:38:13.890 --> 00:38:31.250 Robin Murez: what's needed. The but but it still hasn't. You know again I go back to the stay of execution. What you need from her is is some written thing that they Won't, Rip it down. That's the first thing. No? Okay. So what we've got is reckon Parks 341 00:38:31.940 --> 00:38:33.750 Robin Murez: did already say 342 00:38:34.120 --> 00:38:40.720 Robin Murez: verbally, and then it's transcribed that it is not to be torn down awaiting 343 00:38:40.940 --> 00:38:48.710 Robin Murez: an evaluation of what is needed to save it. And why do you have that 344 00:38:49.330 --> 00:38:57.540 Robin Murez: from record, Parks? I've told her people a 1 million times telling her people and sending in it. Everything in politics has to be in writing 345 00:38:57.540 --> 00:39:25.500 Robin Murez: in Lebanon. Yeah, so do we have. Do we have a copy of Erect and Parks? Well, that you can bring to her today to show that record parks. Is it under their sole jurisdiction, or is it under? Okay, so I have told her and her people on January Well, County. But there's several different. No, no, no, no, no! The county leases it from the city and the county who wanted to tear it down. 346 00:39:25.720 --> 00:39:37.040 Robin Murez: went to reckon parks after they had already gotten the coastal permit. What about beaches and harvest is that they're the ones okay. They're the ones who have these rogue 347 00:39:37.060 --> 00:39:51.490 Robin Murez: staffers who lied to Coastal commission, saying that they owned it, and they don't. So then, after the fact, they went to reckon parts to try to get reckoned Parks approval record Parks is city. 348 00:39:51.640 --> 00:40:01.100 Robin Murez: and they thought that getting wreck and Parks approval would give them the justification that they needed to be able to go through with this. Well, I got. 349 00:40:01.150 --> 00:40:10.440 Robin Murez: I learned that they were going to go to wreck and parks, so I made sure that Reckon Parks had the true information first, and so reckon Parks then said on January fifth. 350 00:40:10.500 --> 00:40:19.210 Robin Murez: No, we don't want demolition to occur until the community first has a chance to come back to us in August with their 351 00:40:19.430 --> 00:40:23.760 Robin Murez: concrete business plan for how they would repurpose it. 352 00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:27.960 Robin Murez: and that we need to do public outreach. 353 00:40:28.690 --> 00:40:40.920 Robin Murez: That is clearly what was said by the Commissioners of Record parks, so that we have that in writing it's not in writing it's. Only in transcript. Do we have the transcript? Yes. 354 00:40:40.940 --> 00:40:44.130 betsygoldman: so that's what you want to bring to her. Well, okay. But meanwhile 355 00:40:44.300 --> 00:40:56.490 Robin Murez: Tracy has. I've told her this, and I've told her people that, and I think in a very kind of political way, or new to the politics, has been 356 00:40:56.700 --> 00:41:02.620 Robin Murez: kind of saying that it was she who spoke with Lindsey Horvath. 357 00:41:02.650 --> 00:41:03.550 Robin Murez: who 358 00:41:03.580 --> 00:41:10.770 Robin Murez: put the stay of execution together. So I think, which I know to be after. Reckon Parks did this. 359 00:41:11.180 --> 00:41:15.670 Robin Murez: but she's wanting to take credit for it. 360 00:41:16.070 --> 00:41:18.700 Robin Murez: so I don't really want to 361 00:41:21.710 --> 00:41:29.880 Robin Murez: force the issue. But reckon Parks has given us till August us to come back to them. 362 00:41:30.040 --> 00:41:43.800 Robin Murez: and in order to do that, we need to know what repairs are needed, what the cost is of the repairs that are needed to repair. That tower is only $15,000. That's the cost of the report. 363 00:41:44.050 --> 00:41:50.110 Robin Murez: We need the report to be updated. And so you want the money from tracing. 364 00:41:50.300 --> 00:42:00.320 Robin Murez: Well, really, I want the money from beaches and harbors. They're the ones who have a legal liability. 365 00:42:00.940 --> 00:42:04.380 Robin Murez: Okay, there's an agreement between the city and the county. 366 00:42:04.570 --> 00:42:14.340 Robin Murez: That's basically a Lease, and the Parties to that Agreement are CD. 11 for the City also the Mayor, and reckon Parks. 367 00:42:14.570 --> 00:42:29.510 Robin Murez: and where does Beaches and Barbers come in? And and then it's also county supervisors. And so beaches and harbors went ahead and did this without having authorization from the city who actually owns it 368 00:42:30.100 --> 00:42:31.830 Robin Murez: to stop it. 369 00:42:33.860 --> 00:42:45.340 Robin Murez: I was glad that we got to reckon parts before they did, because had reckon Parks record Parks was ready to sign off on it because they had been told that it was 370 00:42:45.370 --> 00:42:46.960 Robin Murez: that there was already 371 00:42:47.060 --> 00:42:54.530 Robin Murez: a permit from Coastal Commission to do the demolition, and that it was dangerous, and had to come down. 372 00:42:55.110 --> 00:43:07.760 Robin Murez: so they were ready to sign off on it. So I got them. The information showing that one. the waiver that the Coastal Commission issued was improper, because it says that it's county owned, and no, in fact, it's city owned. 373 00:43:08.010 --> 00:43:14.990 Robin Murez: and 2 No, it's not dangerous and about need to come down it. In fact, the 374 00:43:15.570 --> 00:43:25.790 Robin Murez: last assessment that was done says in 4 different places: it has no structural deficiencies. Yes, it needs repairs, but it has no structural deficiencies. 375 00:43:26.070 --> 00:43:42.790 Robin Murez: So that's how basically those 2 items are what caused record parks to say. Wait a minute. We don't want demolition to go forward. We want to give the community an opportunity. 376 00:43:43.420 --> 00:43:52.860 Robin Murez: because that's what you have. Okay, the 15 I'm not going up the 15,000 to get the repairs assessment. 377 00:43:53.030 --> 00:43:57.260 Robin Murez: That's what you want. And I want her to file this 378 00:43:57.470 --> 00:44:01.950 Robin Murez: monument status. So that's 2 things right, and only go there 379 00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:15.670 Robin Murez: because if you go off, and if you bring in all of these other things. You have all those things there. You'll lose it, and I know You're passionate about this. However, I've dealt, you know with. 380 00:44:16.070 --> 00:44:32.320 Robin Murez: and that's also, you know I've had big big companies. I know how how this all works, and the the smallest thing that you want is the one you go after, and not not the smallest. But the thing. This is is specific. 381 00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:50.380 Robin Murez: because then, if you go off on these tangents about all, and you're very, you know you've been involved in. You know all these things. If you go off on that tangent with her, you'll lose her completely. So the 2 things you want, and that's why you don't need us. The 2 things that you want are the her to file for 382 00:44:50.380 --> 00:45:09.910 Robin Murez: monuments which I've been involved in. It's a long process. If she files it, it's much quicker. Okay, Good. So that's the thing you want, and then you want her to give you, and she could do that today. She could give you 1,000 today, and that's what you want to concentrate on. You say 383 00:45:09.910 --> 00:45:25.320 Robin Murez: the I would like today a a authorization from you to of $15,000. She can do that. She has that in her expression. So you want to be very specific and narrow her down to what we can get. 384 00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:31.630 Robin Murez: Not all this other sort of thing, and don't bring up any of those other projects. If you get this. 385 00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:45.920 Robin Murez: you have one thing then, hey, look what you did, and we can go back to her to the other projects, you know, and there are a lot of them, you know the whole arcade. You know all the things that the carousel, the carousel bonnet held up. 386 00:45:45.930 --> 00:45:48.110 Robin Murez: and it, too. 387 00:45:48.240 --> 00:45:53.960 Robin Murez: Reckon Parks is ready to go forward with it, and Centennial Park is sitting out there. 388 00:45:57.350 --> 00:46:10.490 Robin Murez: I'm telling you it just needs a letter from her to you want what's the what is your priority? You want to save the the tower right? Go back to her, and I know. Let me finish this. 389 00:46:11.830 --> 00:46:15.100 Robin Murez: The Centennial Park is currently 390 00:46:15.160 --> 00:46:18.790 Robin Murez: chain linked closed. They are going to 391 00:46:18.930 --> 00:46:24.970 Robin Murez: be doing repairs on it. It makes the most sense for them to 392 00:46:26.260 --> 00:46:30.230 Robin Murez: have us do the groundbreaking for 393 00:46:30.370 --> 00:46:38.540 Robin Murez: building the carousel. Then then ask her, then disregard the the tower and go for your carousel. 394 00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:51.940 Robin Murez: I'm telling you you're not going to get both. I mean. I've met her. I've I've talked to her a lot. I've spent time. This is a formal meeting, and and it's very easy for her to give you one. 395 00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:57.180 Robin Murez: I'll bet if we start by saying. 396 00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:05.190 Robin Murez: we 2 projects that we want to focus on specific. And there is this project that you want to focus on. 397 00:47:05.210 --> 00:47:07.530 Robin Murez: So that's why you don't need us. 398 00:47:07.740 --> 00:47:16.050 Robin Murez: and I understand you put a lot of effort. The carousel is gorgeous and whatnot but you'll confuse the issue, and she's not going to give you to 399 00:47:16.630 --> 00:47:28.240 Robin Murez: trust me, but at least if she cares them you can. You can go back another time when she can hear. Well, I asked if we could have 2 meetings, and they said, we'll have a first meeting, and then you'll see after. Yeah. 400 00:47:28.240 --> 00:47:45.390 Robin Murez: And if the first meeting is concentrated on the one thing you want 401 00:47:45.390 --> 00:47:59.760 Robin Murez: is a Santa Monica. Look at their website. It says like in their first sentence, they are Santa Monica, not for profit. We've got an awesome Venice based. You know, Hila Bay does good things. They're all about 402 00:47:59.870 --> 00:48:04.300 Robin Murez: science and ecology, and it's necessary, but we've got 403 00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:12.740 Robin Murez: but 501 C 3 completely established, been around for 20 years, has a fabulous board of directors fabulous. 404 00:48:12.890 --> 00:48:19.600 Robin Murez: and to create a cabinet of curiosities. 405 00:48:19.810 --> 00:48:38.410 Robin Murez: I mean what Tim has done in His garage is similar to what you've done in a different way. It's this fabulous. 406 00:48:38.510 --> 00:48:50.720 Robin Murez: and you know. So I I've been involved with Tim, and did 2 events here, I think, for you one event. So you know it's again. You don't want to confuse the issue. 407 00:48:50.740 --> 00:48:53.280 Robin Murez: and I I don't want to say anything else. 408 00:48:53.350 --> 00:49:01.870 Robin Murez: You seem to be on the thing. And if the one thing that you want is the lifeguard station at this point, then that's it, and concentrate 409 00:49:01.990 --> 00:49:06.840 Robin Murez: solely on that. Okay? Well, the lifeguard station includes. 410 00:49:08.370 --> 00:49:11.930 Robin Murez: It does not include the carousel. 411 00:49:12.190 --> 00:49:20.600 Robin Murez: I don't know I would like Carousel. It's very dear to your heart for years and gone and put a hold on it. 412 00:49:20.670 --> 00:49:34.210 Robin Murez: Bon, and let Bonnet his past right. Can't go down there, and Tracy knows, and Tracey saw it in my garage, and Tracy has also said they need to get it. Go and ask her to do the thing and forget about the thing 413 00:49:34.740 --> 00:49:47.790 Robin Murez: I don't. I again, knowing people's attention span you know you're the this is the last thing that Tracy you know her. Her agenda is so monumental at this point 414 00:49:47.790 --> 00:50:03.870 Robin Murez: about all the people that are ha hassling her to do this and don't do that and whatnot. Believe me, this is not a priority of hers. Right. However, you could get a check from her, and and also because she has to deal with all of that 415 00:50:04.380 --> 00:50:15.270 Robin Murez: unpleasant tree that is essential dealing with homeless dealing with safety. We, meanwhile have been working on the things that in the long run 416 00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:17.140 Robin Murez: people will love her for 417 00:50:17.180 --> 00:50:27.480 Robin Murez: people. Remember, for for having that's a projection on your part. And again you have to look at the nuts and bolts of what she's involved in at this point, and this 418 00:50:27.680 --> 00:50:39.260 Robin Murez: well, I think you don't think that's worth presenting to him. But we realize, and that's why I thought we all wear a t-shirt, and we just be happy, and we go in there. She's having to deal with all this grunge. Horrible, unpleasant stuff! 419 00:50:39.260 --> 00:50:55.570 Robin Murez: But we are sort of the happy committee that is looking after the stuff that she can't be looking after right now. You know I've been writing the motions for her. I'm doing the work for her, but we just need her to submit them. We just need her to write the chat. 420 00:50:55.580 --> 00:51:05.680 Robin Murez: but we're doing all the leg work to make it all happen, and then in the end, when she can, she'll be able to stand there and do a ribbon cutting and say, hey. 421 00:51:05.740 --> 00:51:20.200 Robin Murez: we saved the Lifeguard Tower. It is now this fabulous, you know cabinet of curiosities, and you know we have a a carousel in our park that is now open to the public and beautiful and historic, and 422 00:51:20.670 --> 00:51:25.240 Robin Murez: and Those are things that people are going to go. Wow! Tracy Park did these. 423 00:51:25.860 --> 00:51:36.550 Robin Murez: They're not going to remember that. Oh, yeah, Remember when there was all those encampments on Third Street that'll have gone out of their mind, and they'll be able to focus on something happening. 424 00:51:36.940 --> 00:51:39.090 Robin Murez: No, no. 425 00:51:40.140 --> 00:51:51.800 Robin Murez: you're talking about the business of politics and the business of politics for her to get money and her to get elected is on the issues that the that the populace is available. And once. 426 00:51:51.950 --> 00:51:55.380 Robin Murez: So this is wonderful. I agree. However. 427 00:51:57.190 --> 00:52:12.260 Robin Murez: I don't agree with you, said the the the, you know. Anyhow, I mean, I think that the fact that you know you and both of you help to get those signatures on that petition. 1,374, as of today. 428 00:52:12.720 --> 00:52:19.500 Robin Murez: People neighbors in the community have all signed saying they cared. They want it saved. That's a lot of people. 429 00:52:19.530 --> 00:52:21.680 Robin Murez: Yeah, I mean, she gets, You know. 430 00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:26.310 Robin Murez: hundreds of people concerned about homelessness, of course. 431 00:52:26.650 --> 00:52:36.220 Robin Murez: but to also have people caring about the landmarks is important in care. I mean, people want to live in Venice because 432 00:52:36.600 --> 00:52:46.730 Robin Murez: it has art and culture. It shouldn't all be destroyed, and she doesn't have the time to. Nobody knew the Life Guard Tower would be destroyed. 433 00:52:47.030 --> 00:52:52.920 Robin Murez: But we're saving it, and we're going to make it cool. and if we don't it'll be destroyed. 434 00:52:54.520 --> 00:53:07.820 Robin Murez: And he the bay doesn't. No, they're not doing it. They haven't done any of this. So yeah, if they want to pitch in 15,000 right now, so that we can get that report updated great. But I don't want them to take it over. 435 00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:09.480 Correct. 436 00:53:09.810 --> 00:53:10.650 Robin Murez: I get it. 437 00:53:10.730 --> 00:53:14.930 Robin Murez: Is that your dog that's that's his dog. Hi! Lucky! 438 00:53:15.720 --> 00:53:18.050 betsygoldman: Hi, Betsy! 439 00:53:18.080 --> 00:53:20.020 Robin Murez: I haven't seen you in years. 440 00:53:20.080 --> 00:53:21.340 betsygoldman: I know. 441 00:53:22.110 --> 00:53:24.640 Robin Murez: Nice to hear your voice. 442 00:53:27.260 --> 00:53:29.180 betsygoldman: I'm letting the dog out. 443 00:53:29.470 --> 00:53:30.450 Robin Murez: Okay. 444 00:53:30.630 --> 00:53:31.320 betsygoldman: what? 445 00:53:33.390 --> 00:53:34.310 betsygoldman: I'm here. 446 00:53:39.080 --> 00:53:46.910 Robin Murez: Okay. So Don't come and I'm: i'm going to totally listen to what you're saying. And 447 00:53:48.290 --> 00:53:50.990 Robin Murez: i'm inclined to try to say. 448 00:53:51.040 --> 00:53:53.840 betsygoldman: because I do know her, and I know she's smart 449 00:53:55.290 --> 00:54:00.170 Robin Murez: to ask if we can talk about 2 projects today. 450 00:54:00.690 --> 00:54:02.120 Robin Murez: so that's limiting it. 451 00:54:02.770 --> 00:54:08.730 Robin Murez: and then fall and and have follow up meetings with with her with her staff, so that they know of 452 00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:12.700 Robin Murez: other projects that we're what do you need from her for the carousel? 453 00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:26.800 Robin Murez: $60,000, if possible. So we now we need $75,000. Well, no they're very different. They're in this they're $75,000 you're asking for. Okay. 454 00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:29.760 Robin Murez: So again prioritize. 455 00:54:30.040 --> 00:54:31.610 Robin Murez: You want the Carousel. 456 00:54:31.620 --> 00:54:40.660 Robin Murez: I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. And it's not my baby. I've taken what $200,000 in cash from people. 457 00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:56.500 Robin Murez: and it's sitting there! It's been sitting there for years in our bank account, and they ask me every day, when's it going in? And they see the park chain link fenced, and they're like great well. When the park reopens. It would be great to have the carousel there. 458 00:54:56.640 --> 00:55:02.450 Robin Murez: Joel Dumas was one of the big supporters of it. She mean well, has died. 459 00:55:02.670 --> 00:55:04.490 Robin Murez: It's absurd 460 00:55:04.900 --> 00:55:15.670 Robin Murez: on in wouldn't go forward, wouldn't, he said. We got the 60,000 is to put in a bathroom, which he said, oh, yeah, if you do it, it's a quarter of the price. Then, if we do it. 461 00:55:16.200 --> 00:55:35.430 Robin Murez: they said, the estimate is like 200,000 at least for the city to put in; but if we do it as the it's a 501, C 3, we can do it. We have the clear estimate in riding for $60,000. They can put a bathroom in the carousel building, and that makes it way more 462 00:55:35.430 --> 00:55:39.710 Robin Murez: enjoyable to Venice moms and everybody who brought it up to me. 463 00:55:39.770 --> 00:55:49.130 Robin Murez: So what what about what's the $200,000 that you're sitting on? What's that for? 464 00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:55.380 Robin Murez: Partially is the mechanism? It's also partially 465 00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:59.270 Robin Murez: in in kind, although that's probably an additional 466 00:55:59.300 --> 00:56:01.090 Robin Murez: amount. 467 00:56:01.200 --> 00:56:15.640 Robin Murez: Kevin Mullen has said he would pour the foundation, but if it works into his time schedule, he's a contractor, and so we need some kind of flexibility. We need to get the approval of the permits 468 00:56:16.520 --> 00:56:20.550 Robin Murez: and Bonn, and held that approval process up. So 469 00:56:21.050 --> 00:56:30.450 Robin Murez: what reckon Parks has said to me is if Tracy Park, if well, they said it when Bonn was in office, if the Council person says 470 00:56:30.870 --> 00:56:34.430 Robin Murez: they want it done, and if they'll put some money into it. 471 00:56:35.020 --> 00:56:41.180 Robin Murez: We'll get it done fast. If not, things don't happen. Okay, then try both. 472 00:56:42.580 --> 00:56:43.440 Robin Murez: Thank you. 473 00:56:43.700 --> 00:56:48.040 Robin Murez: I don't agree with you, but you know you're running the show so 474 00:56:48.160 --> 00:56:58.890 Robin Murez: well. This is all your baby. You're in the that is behind it. And well, how are we ever going to get anything done anything. 475 00:56:58.940 --> 00:57:08.750 Robin Murez: one thing at a time, and if you have success with the one thing, then you you count on that, and then you can go back with this. Look what you did on this, hey? 476 00:57:08.770 --> 00:57:12.000 Robin Murez: 2 or 3 months down the line. Let's let's try this. 477 00:57:12.020 --> 00:57:32.770 Robin Murez: but to but to or split her effort in other words. Now you're asking for $75,000. Well, that's it, I mean, maybe I don't even put a price on it. I'll just say for the carousel. What reckon Parks have said is, they need your letter of support, and they would like to see a financial donation for it. 478 00:57:33.620 --> 00:57:35.100 Robin Murez: And and 479 00:57:42.450 --> 00:57:43.180 betsygoldman: Yeah. 480 00:57:44.190 --> 00:57:45.870 Robin Murez: what did you say, Betsy? 481 00:57:46.430 --> 00:57:55.380 Robin Murez: I think she's probably my dog to be quiet, you know Avon and Bonn is. That's why that that's why she's there. 482 00:57:55.390 --> 00:58:04.390 Robin Murez: She really spearheaded the whole thing because she was pissed off, that what he did with the with the hotel, and made it into that thing. So Bonn and his passe. 483 00:58:04.390 --> 00:58:16.680 Robin Murez: At this point he did a lot of things. He did a lot of things out of spite. He spent every cent that he had in his pocket in order not to leave anything there for her, so that that's not even an issue at this point the issue is. 484 00:58:16.830 --> 00:58:26.710 Robin Murez: what do you want, and you have to in your I mean. Well, I want a letter of support from her for to go to wreck and parks to 485 00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:28.840 Robin Murez: get the 486 00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:37.990 Robin Murez: Carousel permits right put together, and they have said that that should include an indication of financial support from. 487 00:58:38.160 --> 00:58:45.910 Robin Murez: they said, even a minimal indication of financial support from the Council Office will push it ahead. 488 00:58:46.300 --> 00:58:47.470 Robin Murez: So yeah. 489 00:58:48.740 --> 00:58:55.450 Robin Murez: okay. this is a good discussion. Your forcing me to focus in on. 490 00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:05.940 Robin Murez: I think the 491 00:59:10.160 --> 00:59:11.910 Robin Murez: in any event. 492 00:59:17.560 --> 00:59:18.340 Robin Murez: Yeah. 493 00:59:18.560 --> 00:59:20.710 me, a meeting for us? 494 00:59:20.930 --> 00:59:23.580 Robin Murez: I think the question is what we need. 495 00:59:26.660 --> 00:59:39.490 Robin Murez: and I think my sense is. if i'm wrong, is that the 15,000 for the renovation. because i'm most urgent. Need I I would 496 00:59:39.930 --> 00:59:40.690 Robin Murez: that 497 00:59:41.700 --> 00:59:42.830 Robin Murez: Well, the the 498 00:59:43.030 --> 00:59:47.200 Robin Murez: yeah and that brings up the whole question of 499 00:59:48.350 --> 01:00:04.000 Robin Murez: who's gonna have it, because, as her staff people said, well, we could go to heal the bay for the 15,000. But does that mean we're giving it to them? And i'm like, Well, why would you go to them and not even go to us first like they've never said. 500 01:00:04.940 --> 01:00:09.540 Robin Murez: Okay. 501 01:00:09.540 --> 01:00:25.140 Robin Murez: scale of things. I can pay 15,000. Yeah, I've got it. Well, we're pissers compared to heal and the bay. So again they're they're They're looking for the most expedient thing. Okay, but we are Venice, and and we've done everything. 502 01:00:25.190 --> 01:00:31.830 Robin Murez: And why do you bring in Goliath, who has done nothing? Who would gobble this up? And it already exists 503 01:00:31.900 --> 01:00:41.750 Robin Murez: when you could create. I mean clearly, I I get your idealism. However, Goliath, at this point. It could save that thing 504 01:00:41.850 --> 01:00:42.690 Robin Murez: today 505 01:00:42.850 --> 01:00:51.150 Robin Murez: all they, because because they are the Lion. 506 01:00:51.300 --> 01:00:58.560 Robin Murez: Tracy, and and Tim and us, and what not so that heal the bay. They can save it. 507 01:00:58.560 --> 01:01:27.490 Robin Murez: They could get a 99 year lease. We can get that. Do you know that? Maybe it's a 50 year lease? No, you have to know that spark has a 50 year lease. They They started out with like a a tenure. It's going to be really traged. Well, it should be because they've been in violation. Oh, totally so again. What I'm saying is the expedient, you know. Do you really want to save the thing in the way to say? But you are going 508 01:01:27.490 --> 01:01:39.210 Robin Murez: at it from a standpoint of I'm. $15,000 if we need $15,000, and we want it to stay in Venice 509 01:01:40.200 --> 01:01:50.780 Robin Murez: so I could put up $15,000. I've done all the work on this. Why not? Why not give me first the opportunity? Then Tim has people who have money they can put into it. 510 01:01:51.610 --> 01:02:02.390 Robin Murez: and and Mickey has said so too. Why are we not given the first opportunity? We've done all the work? Why should it immediately go to heal the bay? So so again. 511 01:02:02.390 --> 01:02:12.920 Robin Murez: But also we think the district Office and we have funds. Why are they using their like? Why, you know that's all idealistic. What I'm saying is, we don't have. 512 01:02:13.040 --> 01:02:28.230 Robin Murez: so you have heal the bay, which is a a world renowned structure. We don't have a bailey with which they could so do we have? What is the C 3? But he's not the one that's presenting. 513 01:02:28.350 --> 01:02:59.460 Robin Murez: Yes, then a socialinarium has been in that. No, they've been in it, but it's not under his family with Well, I don't know, because you haven't made it that way, so it's him versus the Goliath, and what I'm saying is you need. You need a recognizable. He has a fabulous board of, and then it's under his bailey with, so it's him bases that. But you're so. He. He then becomes forward. Okay, but that doesn't mean that 514 01:02:59.790 --> 01:03:02.710 Robin Murez: that are, I mean, our committee has 515 01:03:02.820 --> 01:03:10.790 Robin Murez: brought this into being, and Tim has been part of it from the very beginning. The way we got the Yo Venice video article. That was through 516 01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:25.200 Robin Murez: what i'm saying is, you're you're looking so they're looking at. Heal to Vegas is an established icon. It has a a whole structure. If if he has the whole structure, then it has to come under him. Yes. 517 01:03:26.120 --> 01:03:27.770 Robin Murez: but I didn't hear any of that. 518 01:03:28.780 --> 01:03:39.850 Robin Murez: You're saying he's part of it. No, it's him. It's him versus the line. I don't think it's any. It's okay. So he the bay, who is, heal the bay. Then who's the one person? It's not one person 519 01:03:40.030 --> 01:03:46.900 Robin Murez: it's an entity that has been around for 20 years. Well, then, it's his entity. Yeah. And who's he? The base entity? 520 01:03:47.190 --> 01:03:49.650 Robin Murez: You know the bay is you of a 521 01:03:49.730 --> 01:03:51.000 Robin Murez: they're giant. 522 01:03:51.410 --> 01:04:03.020 Robin Murez: you know. If you look at I. I looked at their website like yesterday to see again. What are they doing? Because everybody, you know, really what's interesting, because I know a couple of people there. They need. They need a project. 523 01:04:04.240 --> 01:04:21.270 Robin Murez: They're not well, they're doing rivers, and they don't even do a surf rider does the evaluation of that toxicity of the water. They don't even do that. Yeah, they're They're sort of passing in a way, however. 524 01:04:21.620 --> 01:04:22.560 Robin Murez: however. 525 01:04:22.770 --> 01:04:30.800 Robin Murez: so you know. So okay, David Hurts called me because he wanted to be a part of the lifeguard tower. So 526 01:04:31.030 --> 01:04:47.210 Robin Murez: i'll, You know, I think, that then a oceanarium can get a whole bunch of those individuals, then it's, then it's. which is how you present it. Then this is finished. Oceanarium versus the Goliath. 527 01:04:47.610 --> 01:04:59.860 Robin Murez: because he's an established 501. See right? So it's already established. It is an entity under which it's available, under which is recognized at this point. 528 01:04:59.930 --> 01:05:04.380 Robin Murez: We're you're going for the committee or something. No, they? 529 01:05:04.450 --> 01:05:16.320 Robin Murez: That's how reckon Parks set it to me. It, you know again, Po. Publicly is, they ask for the community to come back with our proposal. 530 01:05:16.340 --> 01:05:17.310 for 531 01:05:17.430 --> 01:05:28.530 Robin Murez: how we would repurpose the tower. And you know I've also been in touch with Mickey Gallagher, the retired lifeguard, and he said to me, right, I was thinking, oh. 532 01:05:29.110 --> 01:05:35.450 Robin Murez: the Life Card Tower! How could you tear it down? It's iconic it's cool it should. I would just love it to be 533 01:05:35.630 --> 01:05:37.970 Robin Murez: a public observation tower. 534 01:05:38.290 --> 01:05:50.860 Robin Murez: When I spoke to Mickey, he said, oh, the Lifeguards have wanted a museum forever. It would be perfect like, oh, yeah. And then I call Tim actually both Betsy and I got it. 535 01:05:50.890 --> 01:05:52.620 Robin Murez: Tim, in the ocean area. 536 01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:55.870 Why, we haven't heard from Betsy. What do you think, Betsy? 537 01:05:58.730 --> 01:06:00.000 Robin Murez: Are you there, Betsy? 538 01:06:01.240 --> 01:06:04.870 Robin Murez: She might be, she said. I had to unmute myself. 539 01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:05.780 Okay. 540 01:06:05.840 --> 01:06:07.900 betsygoldman: what do I think? 541 01:06:10.460 --> 01:06:20.810 betsygoldman: Well. truthfully. from the very beginning of this group I thought that Robins 542 01:06:21.090 --> 01:06:24.930 betsygoldman: list of projects was overwhelming. 543 01:06:27.510 --> 01:06:30.300 betsygoldman: I understand the thought behind it. 544 01:06:32.340 --> 01:06:35.350 betsygoldman: where all the projects are certainly worthwhile. 545 01:06:36.610 --> 01:06:43.190 betsygoldman: but I tend to agree with Scott that going with a list 546 01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:49.240 betsygoldman: would be overwhelming for Tracy. I know it would be overwhelming for me. 547 01:06:51.040 --> 01:06:58.350 betsygoldman: and I think that she does have certain community issues that 548 01:06:59.710 --> 01:07:05.890 betsygoldman: she thinks would be more important than art related issues, and I understand that. 549 01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:09.190 betsygoldman: and I think that 550 01:07:10.790 --> 01:07:26.630 betsygoldman: for the meeting it should be It's the Lifeguard Tower. and I understand the importance of the carousel. and I would love to see that go through for Robin. 551 01:07:31.310 --> 01:07:33.890 betsygoldman: but it might be too much at once. 552 01:07:35.470 --> 01:07:38.830 betsygoldman: and I I think that 553 01:07:39.240 --> 01:07:42.580 betsygoldman: the entity of the Venice Oceanarium 554 01:07:42.850 --> 01:07:53.010 betsygoldman: would probably be be appropriate for the entity. as Scott suggested. So those are my thoughts. 555 01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:59.410 Robin Murez: Well, thank you. I I agree. I think you know that. 556 01:07:59.590 --> 01:08:18.590 Robin Murez: having been involved in a lot of these things for many, many years now you know th this is I, and I I get your passion, you know I really in your I mean we're lucky to have you your passion. However, Tracy is fighting for her life at this point, and she has to prove no relevance 557 01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:20.290 and her relevance. 558 01:08:20.380 --> 01:08:27.609 Robin Murez: This is this is a wonderful, or her relevance lies in all the other 559 01:08:27.660 --> 01:08:33.040 Robin Murez: sort of things that they're populous. And the populace, although there are, you know, a lot of the 560 01:08:34.540 --> 01:08:40.439 Robin Murez: you know, a lot of the people that I don't know who signed that sort of thing, you know. But we're the Old Guard. 561 01:08:40.470 --> 01:08:56.430 Robin Murez: Believe me, we're we're dying. We're the Old Guard here the new guard for what I've talked to a lot of different people. They don't give a fuck part in my journey, but most of them don't. So what you have is us fighting, and and it's a shame when you look at 562 01:08:56.430 --> 01:09:05.649 Robin Murez: you know when you look at what has I? I've been in venice since I. Said 1965. When you Look at the wholesale destruction of this city. 563 01:09:06.140 --> 01:09:26.020 Robin Murez: It's it's horrible! What's happened to it? And you know the people, you know, and and so can we save the little bit that's left. Yes, however, I I I agree with Betsy. I think you need to concentrate on what it is you want, and it's under the his Bailey wick completely, because he's an established entity. 564 01:09:26.220 --> 01:09:31.700 Robin Murez: If I know some of your board members, you raised a you know, a fair amount of money 565 01:09:31.700 --> 01:10:01.700 Robin Murez: You've been struggling to get this happen as long as I've known you, which is a long time. Well, but it's also because the notion of trying to build a building from nothing out on the end of the pier. It's never going to have right versus. And that's why, when we first talked to you. 566 01:10:01.700 --> 01:10:10.930 Robin Murez: Yeah, to be able to use the existing lifeguard tower. So you you bring Tim. You bring Tim 567 01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:30.260 Robin Murez: and and and program Tim, and it's under his bailey week, then that so he he is an established 501, C, 3, 501, C 3. Yeah, there's so many, 501 variations. 568 01:10:30.310 --> 01:10:35.750 Robin Murez: and and then he is the Venice, you know. 569 01:10:35.870 --> 01:10:37.060 issue. 570 01:10:37.230 --> 01:10:41.310 Robin Murez: So what I started to say, though also is 571 01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:46.990 Robin Murez: well, whatever it will go under the Venice Oceanarium. 572 01:10:47.240 --> 01:10:49.980 Robin Murez: But I feel that 573 01:10:52.770 --> 01:10:57.940 Robin Murez: Mickey's going to be pissed if there isn't some sort of lifeguard element. 574 01:10:57.940 --> 01:11:17.760 Robin Murez: so there has no Well, of course, and that's also something regarding heal. The bay, like it, is the Lifeguard tower. And actually Tim had a great idea of just starting to refer to it as the Tower, the Venice Tower. Right? That's very cool, too, but for now it's the Venice. 575 01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:30.410 Robin Murez: you know you will include them. I mean it, and it'll be the start of something that you know has been Tim's dream, you know, forever, however, but bigger than Tim's dream. Tim is also 576 01:11:30.410 --> 01:11:58.880 Robin Murez: an educator, and he's he. He has been doing this, like every Sunday out on the end of the year, and has gotten, you know, the so the ability, the permits, or whatever, in order to have a small storage facility out there, and to set up every Sunday, and has done has gotten a grant to have poetry along the deck as you go out to the peer. It's wonderful. It's unexpected. It's what Venice should be doing. It's not 577 01:11:59.490 --> 01:12:03.860 Robin Murez: what's already done. And so yeah, it should come under 578 01:12:04.120 --> 01:12:15.850 Robin Murez: the Venice Oceanarium, but it would be inclusive of it would be this cabinet of curiosity and and and and lifeguard 579 01:12:15.850 --> 01:12:26.820 Robin Murez: artifacts, and it will come together in a unique form. That, you know, is a fabulous public observation tower that people will love to visit. 580 01:12:27.710 --> 01:12:33.290 Robin Murez: Does that sound good to you? How much it seems to me about the 581 01:12:33.300 --> 01:12:36.960 Robin Murez: the 582 01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:53.270 Robin Murez: right. We're not. We've been down, I I understand. I've seen all the pictures. I understand the thing. You and we've talked about this, the likelihood of the the agencies that you would have to bring together. 583 01:12:53.670 --> 01:13:11.160 Robin Murez: which are public at this point as the monumental. You don't have the money to start the feasibility study in order to look at that. You're talking about all these various public agencies that have. 584 01:13:11.350 --> 01:13:18.160 Robin Murez: Oh, here she's going to. I don't underestimate the the difficulty of it. 585 01:13:18.250 --> 01:13:42.530 Robin Murez: But but you haven't even been able to raise the money to get the feasibility. I don't think that's fine over the years. I don't think that's that's a side issue. It's going back to this issue. You take him by. 586 01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:45.350 That's a a wonderful 587 01:13:45.440 --> 01:13:52.470 Robin Murez: concept. And actually I've been down. Manhattan Beach has a a wonderful little building out on the end of its pier. 588 01:13:52.570 --> 01:13:53.700 Robin Murez: and 589 01:13:53.820 --> 01:14:10.740 Robin Murez: you know, how can how can Manhattan Beach build when we can let let let's not get down into this this, this, this, this, this, this this exists, and it's fabulous, and it should be saved; and if it. Isn't going to be used by beaches and harbors. 590 01:14:10.740 --> 01:14:16.120 Robin Murez: Then we want to make it be the Venice Oceanarium with 591 01:14:16.440 --> 01:14:31.610 Robin Murez: Yeah, with with lifeguard, you know. So it would have this cabinet of curiosities with Lifeguard Artifacts 592 01:14:31.660 --> 01:14:45.350 Robin Murez: Cabinet of Curiosity. Yeah. By Del Toro. It's 8 series on cabinets of and the Cabinet itself is exquisite 593 01:14:45.390 --> 01:15:02.120 Robin Murez: little jars that have exquisite little creatures and formaldehyde, and you know it's like. Throw back to, you know there are microscopes, kids these days. Still. 594 01:15:02.120 --> 01:15:19.740 Robin Murez: you know seaweed also all of that, and that's that's the feasibility. So again concentrate you bring him along. He talks on the whole thing, and under that bailey wick. Then you get, and you ask her today for the $15,000, 595 01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:27.000 Robin Murez: and if you if you didn't use up the half hour you'd be you. She would love you. 596 01:15:27.320 --> 01:15:31.420 Robin Murez: And really what you want to get is the $15,000 597 01:15:32.860 --> 01:15:43.390 Robin Murez: and her commitment to put a monument status. If you get that from her in 15 min, and you walk out the door. She will love you. 598 01:15:43.390 --> 01:15:52.950 Robin Murez: But if you go off on all these tangents and that whole list of 18 things. 599 01:15:52.970 --> 01:16:06.680 Robin Murez: and I will hope to have follow up meetings with her and her staff, because there is going to be new staff people there today. but they do need to know that these other things exist because 600 01:16:07.140 --> 01:16:11.400 Robin Murez: but they need to know, because our 601 01:16:12.150 --> 01:16:15.750 Robin Murez: we have bit, we we can keep doing the work. 602 01:16:16.180 --> 01:16:25.830 Robin Murez: but at moments we need her to chime in. We need a letter of support here or there. We need a $15,000 here, there. We need 603 01:16:25.880 --> 01:16:29.490 Robin Murez: her commitment. She is the City Council person. Now. 604 01:16:29.550 --> 01:16:30.990 betsygoldman: Just tell her that. 605 01:16:32.110 --> 01:16:32.910 Robin Murez: Okay. 606 01:16:34.810 --> 01:16:43.650 Robin Murez: I mean that's what I have been saying. I text her and she text me back. and she calls me, and she goes. Where did you find that document, Robin? What you know? Where do I find evidence of this. 607 01:16:44.590 --> 01:16:50.260 Robin Murez: you know. And I say, I just want to keep you posted. You know I've been working on this. This is where it stands. 608 01:16:50.580 --> 01:16:54.300 You know I won't bring you in until we need to. But we need to. 609 01:16:57.250 --> 01:16:58.730 Robin Murez: Oh, and 610 01:16:59.920 --> 01:17:01.540 Robin Murez: well, you know Heidi right. 611 01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:08.250 Robin Murez: Heidi felt. Ste. So you know we just sent over the motion to 612 01:17:08.950 --> 01:17:17.610 Robin Murez: her, her office for what? To invalidate the De Minimis Waiver, that the Coastal Commission issued, based on false information 613 01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:19.590 Robin Murez: that's under her bailey with 614 01:17:21.310 --> 01:17:25.270 Robin Murez: Who would it be? Let's see 615 01:17:26.320 --> 01:17:30.240 you have to go to? Oh, no, it's not in her bailiwick at all. 616 01:17:33.250 --> 01:17:35.640 Robin Murez: You have to go to the State. 617 01:17:36.230 --> 01:17:42.280 Robin Murez: You can't. The Vmc. Can only go to city. 618 01:17:42.290 --> 01:17:49.410 Robin Murez: Oh, let me find out. It's it's it's it's not her bailey with someone said 619 01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:55.570 Robin Murez: that the city have to be. Let me see she's she's city attorney. 620 01:17:57.170 --> 01:18:04.120 Robin Murez: and that the city attorney would assert jurisdiction. That's how it was put, because they the what was issued 621 01:18:04.280 --> 01:18:07.460 Robin Murez: says that it's County owned, and it's not 622 01:18:07.510 --> 01:18:13.830 Robin Murez: in city owned, and that that right there should invalidate it. And when I asked directly. 623 01:18:14.200 --> 01:18:17.050 Robin Murez: they said, No, we won't invalidate. 624 01:18:17.110 --> 01:18:31.780 Robin Murez: and so I brought this. No, the State California Coastal Commission they they won't invalidate, even though they issued this demolition permit to somebody who does not own it. It's like if one of your tenants 625 01:18:32.330 --> 01:18:38.500 Robin Murez: came to them and said. I want I want to. I want to demolish this house. I own it. 626 01:18:39.120 --> 01:18:42.150 Robin Murez: and post. The Commission said, okay, sure. 627 01:18:42.830 --> 01:18:46.760 Robin Murez: And didn't look at the underlying. 628 01:18:46.830 --> 01:18:54.160 Robin Murez: You know. Agreements that show No, they're just leasing it from you. You own it. But now they've let somebody who doesn't own it 629 01:18:55.230 --> 01:19:02.530 Robin Murez: do demolition, and that they refuse to take it off the books, and as long as it's on the books, it's what has caused a lot of the confusion. 630 01:19:02.850 --> 01:19:06.180 and as long as it's on the books it continues to confuse. 631 01:19:07.860 --> 01:19:08.890 Robin Murez: I mean. 632 01:19:09.250 --> 01:19:15.630 Robin Murez: really who you would want to go to, I think who would have more? Say, is 633 01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:17.090 Robin Murez: Elaine 634 01:19:17.200 --> 01:19:22.580 Robin Murez: So Elaine is. This is the 635 01:19:23.210 --> 01:19:25.480 Robin Murez: What's it? She's? The 636 01:19:26.220 --> 01:19:33.490 Robin Murez: No, no, she's. She's the lieutenant governor. 637 01:19:33.570 --> 01:19:35.920 Robin Murez: so she sits on the board 638 01:19:35.960 --> 01:19:45.230 Robin Murez: of that, and she could intervene with more power because it's under her jurisdiction. 639 01:19:45.430 --> 01:19:52.370 Robin Murez: I. It was copied to the distribution of it when you are you a member of the Bnc. 640 01:19:52.840 --> 01:20:05.220 Robin Murez: Yeah, our committee is, I'm: not on the board. Oh, yeah. So you're covered by the brown act and all that sort of thing. Yeah. So is this meeting. That's why we're on zoom and also in person. We're gonna have to wrap it up in 15 min. 641 01:20:05.570 --> 01:20:08.550 Robin Murez: Yeah, if you think of I mean. 642 01:20:09.550 --> 01:20:13.820 Robin Murez: we sent it out. I sent it out to. 643 01:20:15.210 --> 01:20:33.000 Robin Murez: and Tracy's office to the Mayor. Yeah, I sent it out to Tracy's office, to the Mayor's office to you know. Again it was addressed his city attorney to reckon Parks to Coastal Commission 644 01:20:34.610 --> 01:20:36.320 to Department of planning. 645 01:20:39.940 --> 01:20:41.960 Robin Murez: and I think also to 646 01:20:42.160 --> 01:20:44.870 Robin Murez: historic resources in planning. 647 01:20:45.420 --> 01:20:55.550 Robin Murez: Those folks have all received it, and I knew they had. I didn't. I don't think I sent this to the county public works people. 648 01:20:55.830 --> 01:20:58.560 Robin Murez: Maybe I did, because they also 649 01:20:58.940 --> 01:21:02.390 Robin Murez: we're basing their judgments on it. 650 01:21:03.060 --> 01:21:19.570 Robin Murez: and it's completely false, and that's what this article the the reporter from the Argonaut decided to have her article be about that. So she's not dealing with the whole issue of demolition she's dealing with, and the tax assessment on that comes from from 651 01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:25.090 Robin Murez: There's none there. Isn't because it's a government of 652 01:21:25.180 --> 01:21:36.330 Robin Murez: I don't know Jeff. Rank has nothing to do with it. No, but it does have an apn. It, Does it's city owned property. Right? 653 01:21:37.880 --> 01:21:40.880 Robin Murez: Yeah. So who is the new controller? 654 01:21:41.420 --> 01:21:45.680 Robin Murez: I forget who That's that may be. 655 01:21:45.740 --> 01:21:57.570 Robin Murez: Yeah, I forget his name. Yeah, some people have said, Bring it to him. Yeah, because the city controller basically is the is the purse strings of the city. 656 01:21:57.570 --> 01:22:18.170 Robin Murez: and you know, if we had Ron Galvin, he would be on board like immediately. So the City Controller would be more, would have more power in this in this issue i'll send it to him. Yeah, I'm not sure about yeah, cause he's supposed to be the the assets right? 657 01:22:18.260 --> 01:22:30.990 Robin Murez: All kinds of stuff. As a matter of fact, so so I we think that Controller would be the one to go, because they have the per. They They control all of the city's assets. 658 01:22:31.230 --> 01:22:37.740 Robin Murez: every one of them, and they and I don't. I don't know this new person. 659 01:22:38.190 --> 01:22:49.780 Robin Murez: He a lot of controversy him with. However, he's in office, so you have to deal with him just like a lot of people. Well, we don't like, you know. We don't like Tracy. Well, you know. 660 01:22:49.780 --> 01:23:08.990 Robin Murez: Get over it, honey. You got Tracy for the next 4 years, so you better. You better go along with it. I mean you can piss and mode about who you don't, but we shouldn't have been there, and and what's it that Evan Darling should have been there, and i'll let No, this is Tracy Park. So you know, anyhow. Okay? Well, I think you should take Tim along. 661 01:23:09.340 --> 01:23:18.950 Robin Murez: Yeah, I I would let him because he he's an established 662 01:23:18.950 --> 01:23:47.070 Robin Murez: entity which can they can recognize if you understand it's already there that we don't we. You know we're we're you're involved in that. You know we're really I mean, You're amazing. I don't know how you get such energy. Well, I didn't have any plans for Christmas vacation, and I used to be an attorney, so you know, so I really think that so you then have the little guy versus the Behemoth. 663 01:23:47.120 --> 01:24:03.040 Robin Murez: However, it it would be ideal for him as a first step for his, you know, idea for the thing on the pier. And all this this would be. This would be amazing, and they could see that, and they can, and they can use that 501, c. To fight all the battles. 664 01:24:03.940 --> 01:24:10.440 Robin Murez: So yes, and it's also have. Take, and you can take. Take Tim and take a picture of me. 665 01:24:15.370 --> 01:24:23.230 Robin Murez: Okay. So you think it should be just him and I we're talking about who should go to the meeting with Tracy. Yeah. 666 01:24:23.290 --> 01:24:28.720 Robin Murez: Yeah, I mean, I I'd be willing to go, but I I really think it would be 667 01:24:28.720 --> 01:24:46.180 Robin Murez: that he would be the one to spearhead this, and then really again concentrate on what it is you want. You want 2 things for her. You want the her to issue the stay of execution by doing the monument status, and you want to ask her quite 668 01:24:46.500 --> 01:24:56.590 Robin Murez: specifically today, or a check for $15,000 to start the process of reevaluating what it would take to make the to make it whole. 669 01:24:56.630 --> 01:24:59.550 Robin Murez: Make it whole. Don't use the word repair. 670 01:24:59.960 --> 01:25:11.870 Robin Murez: That word you should also know is so. When Tracy came up into the tower. She goes! Oh, my God! This would cost 10 million dollars 671 01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:13.340 Robin Murez: to repair it! 672 01:25:15.030 --> 01:25:18.640 But he said, No, it they don't cost a lot of money. No. 673 01:25:19.010 --> 01:25:32.820 Robin Murez: So that's why. If it goes through our private, not for profit, we can do it. And I just actually texted again to that 674 01:25:32.820 --> 01:25:52.510 Robin Murez: engineer architect who did the assessment. It is cheaper. And so do you think, I said, do you think that it can be repaired? For you know just a rough estimate? Is it reasonable to say, for you know, within 1.2 million, that they were going to use for demolition? Because Tracy's throwing out numbers like 675 01:25:52.510 --> 01:26:06.410 Robin Murez: 5 or 10 million, and he said, No, it's. It's much closer to 1.2 than it would be 676 01:26:06.410 --> 01:26:17.440 Robin Murez: they could. You, don't realize, is again you want it assigned over to his agency. That's what you want. You want it under his bailing. 677 01:26:17.470 --> 01:26:36.260 Robin Murez: Okay, in the private corporation can do all that. However, you've got every any little agency involved in. Okay it, you understand. And once you get that, really it's no it's again. There's a lease. The joint powers agreement. It's it's controlled by the 678 01:26:36.260 --> 01:27:04.460 Robin Murez: that lease. And so, just like Sparks Building has a lease. It's a city owned entity that has, you know, a dollar a year that they pay, and they get to lease it for 25 years, or whatever we can get that Once you start building, and once you start doing all this thing. You still have all of the of building and safety. You've got all of the agencies with their sake. Otherwise you wouldn't. We put up all the money, but you wouldn't get it approved 679 01:27:04.460 --> 01:27:28.440 Robin Murez: right? So what I'm saying is, you know. And again, I but that's where also my experience is. When the Council person says, Get it done. Building and safety does it? I mean building and safety the outrageous things that they are planning department that they put through for the monster, because Bond and said, Get it done is a pure, a clear example of. When When the Council person wants something done, they do it. 680 01:27:28.450 --> 01:27:29.450 and 681 01:27:29.490 --> 01:27:37.150 Robin Murez: well, von. And again going back to the bottom. Bonn was around for 12 years. 682 01:27:37.720 --> 01:27:56.080 Robin Murez: Tracy is brand new. So, Bonn, if you know how it works down at City Hall you've got, you know, this one likes that one, and they don't like this one. So he had all of these people. Tracy is singular on her own. At this point she's already. You've been following her votes. She stuck her neck out 683 01:27:56.080 --> 01:28:10.240 Robin Murez: for, and didn't go along with all the things that you're trying to do for the rental things that was amazing that she did that, or only her. And was that guy, the other guy, so she's already 684 01:28:10.340 --> 01:28:30.080 Robin Murez: viewed as an outcast. She doesn't play ball, and and I think that's balls. That's that's amazing that she did that. And it was good that she did. It was good. She wanted to make it. Well, what they're doing is because, you know well, they're eminent domaining private property, and she stood up for that. And I thought, Wow! That's terrific. 685 01:28:30.080 --> 01:28:43.410 Robin Murez: and you might start off with that. If you want to bring me along. I will compliment her on that, because you want to get her, you know you, you, you know compliments, and you know, go along a long way. 686 01:28:43.410 --> 01:29:03.540 Robin Murez: And and that was amazing that she did. However, her doing that already singled her out of a as different than the other 14. Do you understand? So again she's she's, I think she's terrific that she was able to do that, and you know what that was right. 687 01:29:03.710 --> 01:29:18.010 Robin Murez: That was. So. They were going to extend this rent abatement for tenants for another. I don't know 6 months year, and Tracy said, Well, wait a minute. What about the ma and Paw 688 01:29:18.020 --> 01:29:33.410 Robin Murez: apartment owners? We need to take care of them, because, you know, if they're not getting income for another year, how are they going to survive? So she said, we need to look at this and make it more balanced, so that they, too, get some sort of 689 01:29:33.410 --> 01:29:43.700 Robin Murez: yeah. Yeah, that was terrific. And she did that. I I can't believe what this city is doing to the moment, Bob and property owner. So 690 01:29:43.910 --> 01:29:49.110 Robin Murez: it's eminent. 691 01:29:49.160 --> 01:30:02.400 Robin Murez: They're going to control horrible, horrible! But well, the Bleeding Heart Liberal thinks that you know the the the issue now is that I've seen this, that a housing is a right 692 01:30:03.130 --> 01:30:20.700 Robin Murez: Well, everything is a right it is it a right? No, it's the right. You owned you worked, you got your property. I worked. I got my property. No, this over over arching thing to give everything to somebody I think is is wrong, it's not, it's not it doesn't it's still people 693 01:30:20.750 --> 01:30:36.660 Robin Murez: to be productive to go do their things. No. Why should I? If it's my right, then give me the house. No, I think that's all off, off, mates, in a way. So you know you have a lot of you know. I'm involved in all you know the mental things that you know we've got. 694 01:30:36.660 --> 01:30:51.730 Robin Murez: you know, Gavin, just in the Care Act or something, and it's already being thought by the Bleeding Heart. Liberal, i'll call it. Who says you're taking away these? The mentally challenged people. You're taking away their rights. They don't have any right to this one, because they're crazy 695 01:30:51.730 --> 01:31:04.760 Robin Murez: and and or no, they have too many. Right? They? Yeah. So it's me. If they were, and it's they wouldn't have right. It's your Tracy. You go, and and you don't have a choice. You have to get therapy. 696 01:31:04.780 --> 01:31:20.960 Robin Murez: You do what you can treat psychosis on the street, and Unfortunately, you know, the idle of so many people brought a rake and close to every one of the mental institutions, and in 40, some years we've never built another one, which is, which is a shame 697 01:31:20.960 --> 01:31:28.810 Robin Murez: with social services, and my parents worked very hard to get the mental services, and they were social workers. 698 01:31:28.900 --> 01:31:37.730 Robin Murez: No, it's it's really. It's the tragedy. When you see these young people, you know, screaming on the on the street, and it's it's just 699 01:31:37.970 --> 01:31:40.110 Robin Murez: I don't know. Anyhow. So 700 01:31:41.970 --> 01:31:44.220 Robin Murez: it's not. It's not 701 01:31:45.610 --> 01:31:53.280 Robin Murez: Well, it's sad, but it's also dangerous. because it's what's the side term 702 01:31:55.040 --> 01:32:07.280 Robin Murez: when they're up and down like that. You mean bipolar. Yeah, that's one that don't take their medicine. 703 01:32:07.280 --> 01:32:35.040 Robin Murez: and they're the ones that can take a gun and kill somebody. It's not. It's the schizophrenic probably wouldn't take the gun. The one would be which we have a lot is the paranoid schizophrenic and the paranoid. Yeah. And they're the ones that are really dangerous. Yeah. And and you know you can't treat it. You you people, you know, once the the issue is sort of interesting people that have these psychosis, they take their medication. In a minute they start feeling better. They don't take it. 704 01:32:35.170 --> 01:32:46.200 Robin Murez: and then they reverse, and you know we've been trying to treat these people on the street. 705 01:32:46.310 --> 01:33:05.140 Robin Murez: going back to our old business. The first thing on our agenda was discussing the Venice walking to our app that we requested funding 49 99 a month to create this app that you can pick up on your phone or your browser and your computer and we can 706 01:33:05.710 --> 01:33:21.560 Robin Murez: put in there historic places we can put contemporary architecture. We can put parks. Anything different. Committees can use it. So it passed the Neighborhood Council this last Tuesday night. Yeah, the typical 707 01:33:22.390 --> 01:33:23.780 Robin Murez: obstructionists 708 01:33:25.160 --> 01:33:28.890 Robin Murez: came up with the most ludicrous things, saying that 709 01:33:29.050 --> 01:33:34.040 Robin Murez: because Jim is my brother, that he needed to recuse 710 01:33:34.080 --> 01:33:45.610 Robin Murez: from handling this motion, though neither he nor I get financial benefits from this. There's like no justification. They tried that. They try. They try everything 711 01:33:45.820 --> 01:34:02.950 Robin Murez: they the the treasurer keeps saying that he has contacted the city clerk waiting to find out if they will approve this. And so I say, oh, could you send me a copy of your correspondence and the attachments because he's been sending out the wrong proposal, not ours. 712 01:34:03.130 --> 01:34:04.670 and then he does the answer. 713 01:34:04.930 --> 01:34:16.820 Robin Murez: So I got in touch with the city clerk directly last time he said this, and then he said it again to me, whatever a couple of days ago, so i'll give him a few more days. But so they're trying whatever they can, and it's all because 714 01:34:16.960 --> 01:34:17.900 Robin Murez: the 715 01:34:18.380 --> 01:34:33.930 Robin Murez: person who's running for one of the people running for President. Well, what she said when I came to her committee and said, oh, yeah, you know, we're doing this, and I've been trying to reach you because you said your committee would be interested in doing it, too, and she said 716 01:34:34.250 --> 01:34:45.640 Robin Murez: I was hoping your committee would stand down because we would do it better like okay. And then she also said those were her words. 717 01:34:47.960 --> 01:34:50.270 Robin Murez: Yeah. So yeah. 718 01:34:50.340 --> 01:35:09.210 Robin Murez: And she she also obstructed our efforts to repair the colonnade, though. Okay. And that's another project on it. So, anyway, the walking tour should happen. But again I have to stay on top of it, because they're trying these ridiculous things they did approve at that forward meeting 719 01:35:10.040 --> 01:35:20.010 Robin Murez: to buy 5 table costs for the B. And C. With Logos on it. Yes, how much they want? They approved to fund 5 table costs 720 01:35:22.850 --> 01:35:26.230 Robin Murez: 5,000. 721 01:35:28.410 --> 01:35:34.980 Robin Murez: What are you guys really thinking that you would buy 5 table cost for a 1,000 or 5,000? 722 01:35:35.030 --> 01:35:46.320 Robin Murez: No, but i'm sure that's what. How much was it 723 01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:58.200 Robin Murez: information regarding the dimensions, the materials, the who the vendor would be, what the logo would be, and nothing. and 724 01:35:58.340 --> 01:36:10.020 Robin Murez: that only showed up like moments before this last meeting. So they put her that proposal through the Budget Committee through Edcom. It came to the board, and they all went. Oh, that's wonderful. 725 01:36:13.060 --> 01:36:21.420 Robin Murez: And yeah, the local people I called a fox embroidery. Another neighbor said. They do good work for, like everybody's baseball teams with little, be 726 01:36:21.830 --> 01:36:31.880 Robin Murez: it? Basically it would be about $200, and then for $15 extra. They could print as many T-shirts as they want $15 per t-shirt. They could keep using the same screens to print. 727 01:36:32.110 --> 01:36:33.170 Robin Murez: And 728 01:36:33.690 --> 01:36:39.440 Robin Murez: so, yeah, there is a contingent of people on the Vnc board that are 729 01:36:42.710 --> 01:36:51.950 Robin Murez: I. You know they have an agenda that does not seem to benefit Venice. That's my perception. 730 01:36:52.050 --> 01:36:56.520 Robin Murez: So yeah, we need to. Also to that 731 01:36:56.880 --> 01:37:03.200 Robin Murez: sounds like that. I don't know it's it's it's the call 732 01:37:03.810 --> 01:37:20.340 Robin Murez: our yeah, it's it. It is, it's true. And I don't understand the glory of you, you know, like I don't care. When I went to their meeting and said, hey, you, you! You said you also wanted to do a walking tour app. If you have a better way to do it 733 01:37:20.390 --> 01:37:34.330 Robin Murez: great, you know you want to collaborate, and they're like No, we don't want to collaborate. Well, look how I mean You take Dan Abrams, you know, with the hotel, I mean. He has been fought like again, like you. He has the money, and he's fought it 734 01:37:34.330 --> 01:37:51.160 Robin Murez: for if we had need a hotel, Santa Monica has all the we don't have one. I mean, they've been fought over and we have. Well, we're going to have. Okay, it's 1130. The Irwin. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it's 1130. So i'm just gonna say, okay, so 735 01:37:51.170 --> 01:38:00.660 Robin Murez: we've talked already Talked about Lifeguard Headquarters Tower. We've talked about the waiver and validation motion went out, and i'm going to see to it that it goes to May. She also 736 01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:13.260 the historic cultural monument Motion for the pagoda repairs. Nothing more has happened on that. I think that's like having to wait until things settle down. But reckon Parks has said they're going to do it, and they've got the funds. 737 01:38:13.360 --> 01:38:29.370 Robin Murez: The historic. Oh, the blueprints that we that were found for the Lifeguard tower also include blueprints for pagodas, the historic canal and Bridge Parklet Grand Canal and 738 01:38:29.450 --> 01:38:33.040 Robin Murez: we'll put up the money when they did. 739 01:38:33.250 --> 01:38:37.960 Robin Murez: You know, when they were selling the tiles for the Pagodas member? 740 01:38:38.270 --> 01:38:55.110 Robin Murez: I don't know what Who did that? Do you. Yeah, it's in. In fact, that's when the blueprints that we have. So the Restoration that we did back in the eighties. I think it was 741 01:38:55.300 --> 01:38:57.410 Robin Murez: Yes, yeah, when 742 01:38:57.990 --> 01:39:09.810 Robin Murez: when Bill Rosindall it was under Bill. Yeah. Okay. So then. So then there's the motion that we put forth already to create that parklet. And actually, I just found that it may be something that 743 01:39:09.820 --> 01:39:24.140 Robin Murez: we can do under the office of community beautification. I've gotten that's how I built the the ballpark on the corner across from the library, and so they have something called. Adopt a median, and i'll see if 744 01:39:24.400 --> 01:39:29.890 Robin Murez: it's possible to go through them and just go ahead and try to create this parklet. 745 01:39:30.610 --> 01:39:49.670 Robin Murez: but it's, you know, tricky, because it's also part of where the monster wants to consume it, and the monsters plan is completely contrary to what army core of engineers, coastal commission, and city of La. All agreed to in writing as to what that is to be. So, anyway, hopefully, we 746 01:39:49.680 --> 01:39:59.550 Robin Murez: we can make progress on that. And people really like that. Also because it does it's on hold at this point. Yeah, by the coast of 747 01:39:59.730 --> 01:40:16.320 Robin Murez: Yeah. And then yeah. And then the Colonnade Restoration. So Betsy found, and was party to Betsy, that architect who did those drawings for the creating the historic district, the historic Arcade district. 748 01:40:16.330 --> 01:40:19.490 He's still around. I googled him right. I mean, he's. 749 01:40:20.800 --> 01:40:21.950 Robin Murez: Are you there, Betsy? 750 01:40:21.980 --> 01:40:23.580 Robin Murez: Oh, are you unmuting? 751 01:40:25.810 --> 01:40:27.800 Robin Murez: Okay, anyway? So 752 01:40:28.100 --> 01:40:32.660 betsygoldman: that he found. I'm here. I'm here. Yes, he is around. 753 01:40:32.820 --> 01:40:39.370 Robin Murez: Yeah. So he did an extensive design proposal that Ruth Gallantor 754 01:40:39.420 --> 01:40:56.650 Robin Murez: put forth a motion in 1,990. There she did, and it passed. Yeah, and it never got incorporated into the then a specific plan, right? So we need to now see about getting that Incorporated and I had met with Mark, Socal and 755 01:40:56.860 --> 01:41:07.990 Robin Murez: Tony Bill and others. And so we need to see. And people online are talking about young people, that those horrible barricades, that. 756 01:41:08.010 --> 01:41:10.830 Robin Murez: or you know, that are being that are out there for 757 01:41:11.170 --> 01:41:27.350 Robin Murez: seating for restaurants. If this was made into a walking plaza. You don't have to have those hideous barricades. You could have tables and chairs out there, and it could be like in Venice, Italy, when You're out on a plaza, and they're 758 01:41:27.520 --> 01:41:39.710 Robin Murez: well Westminster Doesn't have those and their tables and tears are out in the street. And is that where they did just block off the cars, or do they still have cars going there? 759 01:41:39.710 --> 01:41:49.850 Robin Murez: They don't have cars during the last, so that's what we'd be next to the hotel right? Right? So that's exactly what we would hope to do here. Which is it's trickier? 760 01:41:49.850 --> 01:42:05.400 Robin Murez: But well, the original proposal from the bill and I and a lot, and everybody was along was to turn Ab a kidney into a walking street which that's a different one, that you're trying to, you know, telling me to focus. Okay, we've got to go. It's 1135. 761 01:42:05.400 --> 01:42:21.320 Robin Murez: So we're going to to see the other things we're site markers. At this point we'll do QR. Codes it is, but it can be changed. Didn't it used to be that for now it was yeah, yeah, so you could rely on the fact that it was a canal. 762 01:42:21.320 --> 01:42:37.010 Robin Murez: and we and redo it. But it's become such a thoroughfare. Now, it is very different. Okay, so we're not going to deal with that right now, because we have to end this meeting, and so we're ending it at 1135 anybody have anything more to say any other items 763 01:42:37.010 --> 01:42:51.040 Robin Murez: that the committee wants discussion. 764 01:42:51.040 --> 01:43:00.760 Robin Murez: Somebody seconds it a second. That's the second set. Okay, cool, alright. Bye, everybody. Good luck this afternoon. Thank you. Thank you.