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jim murez: Well, I don't know where this committee is. I guess it's 5 min. Maybe they're not here yet.

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jim murez: I'm promoting you. Now, Evan.

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jim murez: Good evening.

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Evan Corrigan: Good evening, Jim.

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jim murez: How's it going? Good.

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Yes.

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jim murez: So do me a favor. Make a note for your next agenda. We want to fix the timing on the traffic light at Pacific and winward.

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Evan Corrigan: Yes, it'll be on there. Have you guys been talking to anybody in dot on a regular basis?

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Evan Corrigan: No.

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jim murez: okay.

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jim murez: I I don't even know if there is a contact at this point. But if there was, I would say we should just reach out to him. The problem is, is that

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jim murez: because the it has what they call the scramble

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jim murez: where everybody goes in all directions at one time they're not allowing right turn on red.

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jim murez: east and west, and and as a result.

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jim murez: people Don't, necessarily follow that the scramble, like

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jim murez: restrictions that say when the light is green

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jim murez: you can only go when the crosswalk is lit up and blinking white, so they walk on the green light. And now the cars that are waiting to make the right turn in the north or southbound direction, or the left turn in the north or southbound direction. I'll have to wait for the pedestrian.

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jim murez: and now only one car gets through the intersection. In the meantime there's a half a dozen cars for trying to go through, because people are jay walking.

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jim murez: There's no there's no right turn on red.

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jim murez: because the the light is green for the cars, but they don't realize that it's red for the pedestrian.

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jim murez: So they're they're still walking. They're not. They're not buying the law. And so what that causes to happen is that only one car gets through the intersection at a time.

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Evan Corrigan: What if

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Evan Corrigan: What if there is more signage, it was more clear that you can't cross.

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jim murez: I think the the the immediate solution is, they have to lengthen the cycle for east and west

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jim murez: right now. It's a very short cycle. It's, you know it's less than a minute.

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jim murez: It's probably 30 s.

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Evan Corrigan: Yeah. I wonder if it's a different on, like peak times like weekends when there's more pedestrians or more drivers on week days.

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jim murez: I think it's an ongoing problem every day of the week from what the property owners over there have all reached out and told me about

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robertthibodeau: absolutely. I take a run here. Weird things.

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Evan Corrigan: Yeah, i'm gonna mute, Robert. Hang on.

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jim murez: Robert. You're muted.

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Evan Corrigan: I think that might be.

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Evan Corrigan: I mean, it sounds like there's problems on both sides like the pedestrians are not following.

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Evan Corrigan: Yeah, no question about it.

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jim murez: But but the the cycle is too short for the pedestrian to get across.

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jim murez: and also, oh, there goes my camera again.

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Evan Corrigan: and also

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jim murez: allow cars to still clear the intersection.

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jim murez: When, when they put in the scramble intersection, they they shortened it tremendously, and then, when they

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jim murez: turned it into one lane in either direction.

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jim murez: All the cars stack up

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jim murez: right because of the the L. Fresco permits. On windward.

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jim murez: It's now 1, one lane in in one lane out used to be 2 lanes in and 2 lanes out.

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jim murez: because the cars were all parked diagonally, but they kept them way back from the intersection. So if a car

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jim murez: was behind the first car, trying to make the left turn. The second car could still make the right turn. That doesn't exist today.

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Evan Corrigan: because the

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Evan Corrigan: I think I have to go over there and take a look at it.

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Evan Corrigan: I know that intersection is like pretty one to like it. Doesn't read like it's a scramble intersection.

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Evan Corrigan: So that's kind of confusing sometimes as well for pedestrians like.

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Evan Corrigan: you know, you're used to being able to walk across when it's green the other way.

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jim murez: Well, you know what happens. A lot of people get out in the middle of the intersection. They want to take a picture with the Venice sign behind them.

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jim murez: Yeah, for sure. And so they're all out there all all the time when it's scrambling, and then and then they get across. They come back out and do it again.

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jim murez: I I I truly believe that if they just extend the time, the cycle time

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jim murez: that that'll solve the problem. But you know again, you probably don't have

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jim murez: the the inductance sensors in the street.

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jim murez: so they don't know how many cars are actually sitting at the intersection, waiting. It's not as though they're timing the the the light to be longer. When

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jim murez: when there's more

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Evan Corrigan: it'd be extending the time for both pedestrians and cars

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jim murez: not for pedestrians. The pedestrians, I think, are covered.

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jim murez: Selen. I'm promoting You

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jim murez: you guys have a meeting to start at 70'clock, Robert.

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jim murez: who who who do you want to have the host, and who wants to be co-host.

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robertthibodeau: Evan, do you want to do the the scrolling of the agenda? No problem you wanna do the note taking, or do you want me to do the note taking? I can do.

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robertthibodeau: I can also do the the scrolling. If you want me to just take me a second to get ready.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah, you wanna take notes this time, and I can scroll. Yeah.

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jim murez: So i'm turning on close captioning for English.

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jim murez: And who does who it? Who ends up being the host, and who ends up being the co-host in your configuration? Evan host, I. See C. J. Is she, she, or shawn on your committee?

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jim murez: No

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robertthibodeau: attendees who who wants to be host? Who wants to be Co-host

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jim murez: I think Evans going to be host, and i'm going to be co-host. Okay, so i'll make you co-host first

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robertthibodeau: as soon as I make evan post i'm no longer. Host, i'm gonna text allison, real quick and see if you can get on.

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My son will say

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Evan Corrigan: so, Evan, You're now host, i'm just gonna grab my air pods real quick. I'll be right back.

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jim murez: I'll be here. But i'm going to mute Robert.

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robertthibodeau: Okay, sounds sounds good. You gotta we're gonna still be probably another 2 or 3 min to get this rolling.

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robertthibodeau: Hi, Selena.

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Selena Inouye: Hi, Robert, how are you?

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robertthibodeau: Good.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah. Happy New Year?

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robertthibodeau: Devin, Can you speak to see if we can hear you?

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robertthibodeau: Yeah? Oh, you're great. Okay.

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Evan Corrigan: So we have.

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robertthibodeau: We got Allison

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robertthibodeau: Checks me the zoom. Okay.

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robertthibodeau: 1 s, Allison.

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robertthibodeau: we we didn't send them the agendas in the inbox. That was our problem.

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robertthibodeau: Mental note, Evan.

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Let's.

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robertthibodeau: I've completely passed out on that. But we we should send them the agenda on a Friday when we send it out to everybody else.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah, you guys still want it. I just I just forgot.

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robertthibodeau: I just got it off to Allison

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robertthibodeau: and let's see if we get a response from

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robertthibodeau: from Elizabeth to

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robertthibodeau: yeah, I got a kick, a whoop, so she should be on in a second, too.

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robertthibodeau: for Allison.

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robertthibodeau: Thanks, she's on. So let's you should have your manager there. You should after.

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robertthibodeau: for in the audience and be able to

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Evan Corrigan: promoted.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah.

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robertthibodeau: Nice

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Evan Corrigan: call meetings order 7 to 6.

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robertthibodeau: I got to get a pen.

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Alyson Wilson: Hi, there!

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Evan Corrigan: One of those little notebooks.

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Evan Corrigan: and hey, Selena!

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Selena Inouye: Hi! How's it going? Everybody?

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Evan Corrigan: Good. How is everybody.

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Selena Inouye: I'm: Good.

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Alyson Wilson: Everyone have. I mean the holidays of ways behind us, but we haven't seen each other yet. Everyone doing okay, in 2,043.

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Selena Inouye: That so far, so good. But I don't want to say anything in case it jinx is it

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Alyson Wilson: Same page

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robertthibodeau: pick role

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robertthibodeau: here?

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robertthibodeau: So meeting

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robertthibodeau: 706. Okay.

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Evan Corrigan: Robert.

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robertthibodeau: Yes, I've been here.

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Evan Corrigan: Elizabeth.

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Evan Corrigan: Oh, there she is from up to panelists.

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Evan Corrigan: Awesome

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Alyson Wilson: here.

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Evan Corrigan: Selena.

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Selena Inouye: Here.

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Evan Corrigan: Elizabeth.

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Evan Corrigan: Roll Call Elizabeth. Hey?

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Evan Corrigan: You're Here

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Elizabeth C.: I am here

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Evan Corrigan: perfect

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Evan Corrigan: public comment and on agenda items.

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Evan Corrigan: Shaun O'brien.

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Sean Obrien: Okay, you you can talk, Shawn.

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Sean Obrien: I wanted to bring up something. I think it was last summer a bunch of us worked on something. We pushed it through this committee

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Sean Obrien: unanimously, and then I believe it got unanimous in B and C.

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Sean Obrien: And this was about putting signage

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Sean Obrien: and the 2 parking lots on Venice Boulevard.

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Sean Obrien: So you got the farmers market lot between Dell and Ocean and the Pacific lot between Pacific and Dell.

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Sean Obrien: What we did is we asked for the city to install no trespassing signs.

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Sean Obrien: Couple of months ago I spoke to Senior Lead Officer Monique. Contrary.

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Sean Obrien: the signs that bond and placed, in which I believe, we copied on our motion.

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Sean Obrien: stating that

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Sean Obrien: times where?

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Sean Obrien: Oh.

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Sean Obrien: the trespassing was prohibited

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Sean Obrien: that made those signs useless, and made the ordinance impossible to enforce.

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Sean Obrien: So i'd like if we could like, pull that motion and revisit it, maybe on the next agenda, and and then send it back to the Vnc.

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Sean Obrien: And the board me.

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Sean Obrien: and remove the language for for the times on those signs.

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Evan Corrigan: Sure, yeah, I remember that

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Sean Obrien: is they're allowed to hang out during the day.

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Sean Obrien: and then at night time there's no there's no offices open, so when you want to enforce it, and you want to like, call a service provider or whatnot.

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Sean Obrien: you know nobody's answering the phone.

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Sean Obrien: So I think that was the problem with with those signs.

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Evan Corrigan: Would you be able to? I think I saw an email with us and send us like

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Evan Corrigan: what exactly should be on the sign, or maybe often those that

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robertthibodeau: yeah.

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Sean Obrien: it could just be the ordinances. But just no time, just the No trespassing the no loitering.

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Sean Obrien: but just no time. What makes it

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Sean Obrien: because they basically then they can set up during the daytime.

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Sean Obrien: and then at night time, the cops don't want to enforce it.

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Sean Obrien: so that came from the lips of money. Contrast is that the that the current signs

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Sean Obrien: on the Pacific dell lot are are basically useless. They're unable to enforce anything.

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Evan Corrigan: I think we we can do that next month.

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robertthibodeau: You would make our lives easier, Shawn, not to put extra work on you, but i'm going to, because you brought it up. If you could send us the exact language that you want, you know, or a picture of what you want, and strike strike out, or whatever you just make, make our life a little bit easier.

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robertthibodeau: All right, I'll I'll try to help out with that. I don't see a problem with that. Thank you. I think Allison's familiar with it, too. So between the 2 you want to, you could do that before the March meeting will be happy to put it on. Okay.

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Sean Obrien: Awesome. Thank you.

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Evan Corrigan: Thanks.

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soledad ursua: Hi, everyone. Can you hear me? Yeah, okay.

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soledad ursua: So I wanted to bring up just an issue with oversized vehicle ordinance. I live on sort of near the Walk streets in North Venice, and if you look on Pacific in both directions and on main street. In both directions

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soledad ursua: there is the opio ordinance, where there's no oversized parking vehicle parking from 2 am. To 6 am. So that is, you know, on all the main streets. But then, when you look at the small off streets, so we're on brook, so between our brooks, between and Pacific.

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soledad ursua: and brooks between Pacific and Speedway. We do not have those signs up, and so it's it's turning into a little bit of a mess. Now, what people are parking commercial trucks.

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soledad ursua: Yeah. So I mean because I think we are gonna have to go the route of petition. But I would ask that there's so many small, narrow, nonconforming streets in Venice, especially in you know, in North Venice I would ask that we get some general relief for everyone.

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soledad ursua: so that all of the streets can be represented. Just think about all the streets that are between Speedway and Pacific, you know there's so many, and so if everybody, every block has to go the route of collecting signatures. It's just a drain, I think, on the community when

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soledad ursua: i'd really love to see something where you know all of Venice can be represented, and it's just asking for current law to be posted.

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robertthibodeau: And that's it.

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robertthibodeau: You had mentioned something to me, too, in an email about your concerns about

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robertthibodeau: the increase in campers

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robertthibodeau: which I you know I don't. I don't have count numbers, but you had mentioned that you were concerned about the increase in campers

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robertthibodeau: with the

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robertthibodeau: with the

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robertthibodeau: Clean up down in Playa at that's what I thought you were going to be talking about in the

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robertthibodeau: general public comment, and then I thought you would talk specifically about

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soledad ursua: Yes, and so because if you guys have been sort of paying attention, you know, the Bellona Wetlands is next for Enforcement.

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soledad ursua: and I was just wondering what is going to happen when they start asking people to move on. There's nothing to stop those 60 Rvs from driving right into Venice. So it's really going to be the streets that do not have these signs up that are going to have to bear the burden.

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soledad ursua: So i'm just hoping that we could get some sort of overall, you know, opio parking restrictions for all of us, just in accordance with the current law.

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robertthibodeau: Okay, Thank you.

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soledad ursua: Thank you.

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robertthibodeau: Do we have any other non agenda? I'm sorry you were gonna say that. Weren't you?

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Evan Corrigan: No, no, go for it.

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robertthibodeau: We do not. Okay.

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robertthibodeau: Can you guys lower your hands, Shawn? And so that

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Evan Corrigan: So we have the 2 rack motions. I'm wondering.

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Evan Corrigan: Should we go to.

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robertthibodeau: So what that? Do you want to?

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robertthibodeau: Do you wanna go straight to Number 8 because you're here, and then you can get off. I I don't know I don't have a problem with

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soledad ursua: Yes, I'd love to.

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robertthibodeau: I think it's a good idea.

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robertthibodeau: Okay?

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soledad ursua: Okay. So as I was mentioning, there's a bunch of just narrow non-conforming streets throughout North Venice. So we're talking about you know side streets that are between P or in between Pacific and Main, and then also between Pacific and the speedway

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soledad ursua: and so narrow non-conforming. That means that there's only parking on one side of the street. It may be a one way street, and so for that reason the city probably did not go and put up the signs there because they're just very small streets.

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soledad ursua: And so now this is only been in the past 2 months where we're having a real issue. Now, where people know that they can park their commercial vehicle, we'd have some where their commercial delivery trucks that are parked for the week. There's somebody with a Mercedes Ben Sprinter van, which is a very expensive car.

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soledad ursua: The person lives elsewhere, but has been parking his car here because he knows he can get away with it.

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soledad ursua: And so I started looking around because we could go the route of doing the petition. We would do all of brooks these 2 blocks, and so we are getting ready to, you know. Get ready to go and ask for signatures. But I started thinking about all the other streets that would need to do this as well. So I was hoping for some sort of blanket that could be done.

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soledad ursua: because I mean when you I mean to think about all the you know. There's sunset. There's all these small little streets that are kind of side streets there that don't have the ordinance. And so that's really what we're asking for Some sort of blanket protection, or just just a blanket clause for these nonconforming streets.

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Evan Corrigan: The the streets on the other side of

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Evan Corrigan: main have them

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soledad ursua: on both sides of main correct, and both sides of Pacific. It's just these smaller streets. Don't have them for some.

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soledad ursua: and I do understand that the city has done this in the past for Government property. I know that they did put up the Ovio signs for the streets that are, you know Westminster

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soledad ursua: by the dog Park. So they did put them up there, but they have. So that's really it. So Think about Westminster that you know how it's very small and narrow. It's one way. So they have done it there, but they it's really a lot of these small, you know. Funky streets in North Venice. Still, Don't have them.

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robertthibodeau: Okay, Shall we make a motion and then open it up to public comment or not? Make a motion and open up the public comment.

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soledad ursua: I mean I I would love to see you know. What could I mean? Whatever you guys think the notion should be, but just to

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soledad ursua: to blink it in these, you know, narrow, non-conforming streets, so that you see that it's basically to be you know, lumped in with main and pacific.

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robertthibodeau: Okay. So

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robertthibodeau: So we had a motion like

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robertthibodeau: motion to support the neighbors on brooks

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robertthibodeau: between, so so that either between Main and Pacific or you going, Are you stretching this all the way to Speedway?

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robertthibodeau: Yes, because there's no signs between Avenue and Speedway.

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Evan Corrigan: Sorry. The motion again would be motion

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robertthibodeau: for the V. And c. To support

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robertthibodeau: the neighbors efforts to obtain overview

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robertthibodeau: parking signage

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robertthibodeau: between

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robertthibodeau: Main and Speedway

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robertthibodeau: on Brooks or on brooks between Main and Speedway.

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Evan Corrigan: I think it's all the East-west streets.

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soledad ursua: I think I think it would be good for people, so I know that there is there's signage, on

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soledad ursua: Westminster and clubhouse. So in reality you. I mean, you know it starts North Korea is very small. It starts the San Marco borders on Marine Street.

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soledad ursua: So in theory to help out, You know these walk streets, or you could start at Main or Marine Street, and end with, you know, clubhouse.

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soledad ursua: and it's between Main and Pacific, or Sorry main and speedway.

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soledad ursua: But I don't know. If you guys wanna do you know, I mean it's all these. There's a lot of walk streets, a lot of the residents there. Their homes have been grandfathered in because they're over 100 years old, so they don't have parking on site. They actually have to rely on street parking, and it's become just very difficult in this area.

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robertthibodeau: So

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robertthibodeau: one thing is is because i'm I've I've been in touch with solar that on this

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robertthibodeau: there's 2 things going on here.

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robertthibodeau: One is specifically related to a petition drive that she's so

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robertthibodeau: in order to get the opio signage is very similar to getting the speed bumps.

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robertthibodeau: There's a standard form, I see. Selena Nodding is the standard form you fill out.

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robertthibodeau: and that form that you fill out is accompanied by a petition that you're supposed to run around and get the neighbors to sign. Ideally s two-thirds

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robertthibodeau: but i'm not sure that that's a strict thing.

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robertthibodeau: and I forwarded that information to so it add

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robertthibodeau: the motion that we would be making in my view.

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robertthibodeau: would be just a letter of support

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robertthibodeau: from the Vnc.

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robertthibodeau: So that she could also take that to the Council office. The petition and the

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robertthibodeau: the request

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robertthibodeau: Go to the Council Office, and then the Council Office is supposed to follow up with D O. To get signage and and install. That's that's the that's the process.

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robertthibodeau: That's why I was trying to clarify whether the letter

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robertthibodeau: should be specifically for her petition, which is for the 2 blocks on Brooks.

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robertthibodeau: or she's interested in getting

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robertthibodeau: a letter of support for a greater area, which then I suppose, she could use as well for her petition. But it wouldn't be specific to her street.

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robertthibodeau: That's why I was trying to clarify. I I understand there's both the bigger picture. But then there's the immediate need.

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robertthibodeau: So that's why I was

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soledad ursua: So I I personally think that it should be a a letter support for all of these narrow, nonconforming streets, because I I know that you know a person down the block is going to want to do the same, and it sounds like, you know. I mean maybe it's not that hard. But you still have to spend hours of your day not being trying to meet people. So I would really like to see everybody benefit from this.

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robertthibodeau: Okay, so I think Evan's written up a motion here. Do you want to read it, Evan? And then we'll take public comment on the actual motion, and then board comment, and then vote on it

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Evan Corrigan: just bit bawling. Let me know, whereas the neighbors have.

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Evan Corrigan: whereas neighbors have documented increasing, oversized, commercial and recreational vehicles

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Evan Corrigan: The Ptc right request. The V. And C. Support the neighbors effort to obtain Ovio parking signage on all East West streets that are narrow and nonconforming between Main Pacific

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Evan Corrigan: that do not currently have signage.

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Evan Corrigan: I'm a little tired. So let me know if that makes me

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robertthibodeau: I think, for the purpose of a support letter, because

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robertthibodeau: I I think it sounds just fine. I mean.

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robertthibodeau: I think it gets the idea across.

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Elizabeth C.: How could we could we add in there somewhere that

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Elizabeth C.: and they should have signs right like it. We're not saying anything new. The in code already exists for this area that

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Elizabeth C.: to put that there am I right? Like. We're not asking for anything that's

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Elizabeth C.: not already. It shouldn't already be in play. We're just asking for a signage to support.

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Elizabeth C.: Am I? Am I on the money with that.

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Elizabeth C.: because it just takes that

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Elizabeth C.: on us off. The next politician who looks at it and says, oh, okay, we're just putting up signage

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Elizabeth C.: to enforce what we already know to be true.

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robertthibodeau: No.

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robertthibodeau: you have your signage. I have the

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robertthibodeau: actually, I think, so that you might be able to access it faster than me, because if I go into my emails I may lose the meeting.

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robertthibodeau: But you have the ordinance number, Elizabeth. Would that be sufficient? Just after

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robertthibodeau: the sentence which is support

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robertthibodeau: neighbors efforts to obtain ovio parking signage you could have comma

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robertthibodeau: in conformance with.

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robertthibodeau: And then there is a specific ordinance.

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robertthibodeau: and then comma on all East-west streets. Is that satisfactory?

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soledad ursua: Yes. Do you want me to read the the info

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soledad ursua: I sent you the ordinance number, and I I I just don't have again, if I

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soledad ursua: and again it's no oversized vehicles over 7 feet higher, 22 inches long, from 2 am. To 6 am. Except by permit.

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robertthibodeau: That's let's just leave it at La Mc 800 and 69.4 and

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robertthibodeau: I think that

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robertthibodeau: we got enough of a motion here. Don't we?

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robertthibodeau: maybe.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah, they add a number Co: another comma after the parentheses.

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robertthibodeau: That that would be my one comment on that. Yeah, it's 80 dot 6, 9, or just 86, 9,

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robertthibodeau: 80 dot 6, 9 dot 4.

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soledad ursua: Can I just ask? We've so we've got signage on some streets, just not all the streets right? It's it's on both sides of Maine, both sides of Pacific. It's just these smaller. They don't have any signs.

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robertthibodeau: I'm up

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robertthibodeau: Okay, public comment on them. Oh, do we have a second for the motion?

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Evan Corrigan: I'll second.

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robertthibodeau: Okay. So Robert was kind of the one who made the motion.

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robertthibodeau: Albert makes motion. Elizabeth Second.

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robertthibodeau: Okay. Now we need to open it up to public comment. So we do things in order. I apologize for interrupting, but we should do things in order.

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robertthibodeau: Okay, Public comment.

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robertthibodeau: Shawn: O'brien.

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Sean Obrien: Yeah. Hi: yeah. Support. So they support the motion.

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Sean Obrien: Is is it clear, though, that it's between main and Pacific?

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Sean Obrien: I'm not seeing Speedway between

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Sean Obrien: So I just said that, and Santa Monica has been doing this for at least 5 years. Now. Where they have that city. Why, so they have no Rvs, no campers, no overnight thing, city-wide. So I just wanted to share. That.

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Sean Obrien: Thanks. I support it.

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robertthibodeau: Okay, thanks, Shawn

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robertthibodeau: any other public comment here?

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robertthibodeau: I think it's just so it out and shawn in the in the thing. So

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robertthibodeau: for Ford Comment.

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Alyson Wilson: Yeah, I'm going to hop in. So I've

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Alyson Wilson: let me share a few things. So I did the oh, the Ovio signs on on North Venice, between Pacific and Ocean, and I think it's great to do

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Alyson Wilson: a request for blanket coverage. This is a nice up in the right direction. What I have observed and learned

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Alyson Wilson: I mean several years, but particularly the last few months from the Council offices, that these are not being enforced right now. I think we should go ahead with this. I think this is. It's great to get the signs

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Alyson Wilson: they are having a hard time finding, because ticketing leads to towing. There is really only one toying company that can toe oversized vehicles right now, and they

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Alyson Wilson: to Don't have her to store them. So the issue is, there is enforcement. Is she right now. I'd love to go ahead with this at the board, but I just wanted solo, dad to let you know, to tempor your expectations with the reality of what's happening.

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Alyson Wilson: I also am a little curious where we're going to get with this. I know one of our neighbors on South Venice has been requesting ovo

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Alyson Wilson: petitions which they are really specific about getting that 2 thirds signatures, and he has not been able to get his petitions accepted by the city. So let's do this. I love this, this

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Alyson Wilson: the the movement in the right direction. But I just wanted to share sort of what I knew, so we could all be on the same page about what's happening here.

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Evan Corrigan: so i'll raise my hand.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah, it's me.

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robertthibodeau: Thanks. So I have a question actually back for Allison, since you've got direct experience with this. And this came up when I was sending the information to. So that

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robertthibodeau: is it property owners, renters, or either signatures on the petition.

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Alyson Wilson: It doesn't matter

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Alyson Wilson: like for an for an apartment. If there's 100 units, you have to get 2 thirds of the 100. If it's a house, you just have to get one, and it's one person for each address.

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robertthibodeau: Okay, very good. To know, because that question came up, and there's no clear definition in the petition form itself. So I got to do it twice. I got to do the first time, and then bon, and said, No, thank you. So I got to do it again.

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robertthibodeau: I I for those who remember which would be Allison and Selena. I did put through a motion to blanket Venice with the Ovio ordinance sometime around the beginning of Covid, you know, several years ago now, when Jim was running the committee.

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robertthibodeau: it got voted down at the Vnc. I'm. Happy to revisit that. But I do

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robertthibodeau: want to tell you that we are not sleeping, and this this was brought up before, and we did book positively for it on the Ptc. And

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robertthibodeau: sadly it was.

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robertthibodeau: It was lost, was close. But we did lose at the Vnc. So someone might look, and Jim's, raising his hand at how we could maybe reformat that request to the Council Office.

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jim murez: Re remind me the request

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robertthibodeau: for blanket coverage with the ovo

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robertthibodeau: ordinance.

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robertthibodeau: because I I put together a motion that the Ptc. Passed when you were President

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robertthibodeau: for blanket coverage throughout Venice, and people brought up a lot of issues about. Well, what if I have a sprinter van? And where do I parked it, you know? And then we said, Well, maybe we could have a special permit program

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robertthibodeau: for residents

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robertthibodeau: or whatever.

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jim murez: So I I think it's been more than a year, and since it's been more than a year you're more than welcome to go back and take the old one. And and you know, if you want to reward it rewarded otherwise. Just resubmit it.

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robertthibodeau: Okay.

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robertthibodeau: yeah, it was. It's more than one year, and and it's a new board. I mean, you know.

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robertthibodeau: Maybe it'll maybe it'll just pass, and the times have changed. I mean North Venice, where Allison is is crazy right now. I mean it. It went from being looking like it was really improving. And now it is Walter Wall, and to end North Venice from the farmers market. I was running down there today.

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robertthibodeau: got my running jersey on still.

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robertthibodeau: and it was. It was a 100% campers on that one side of it. I I hear you. I I saw it on Friday. I think I can smell your Jersey from here. Wrong? Yeah, All right.

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jim murez: I just one other thing while I while I have the microphone. I just want to mention to you in March. We're going back to live meetings.

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jim murez: So you should start thinking about. Where do you want to host your live meetings? We will no longer be able to do Zoom Meetings at this point, or do hybrid meetings. So you should pick a restaurant where it's Ada compliant, which is where we used to meet it. You know one of the many restaurants find one that's not too crowded where it's not too noisy.

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jim murez: Or if you want to pick some other place, Westchester Park. The public storage building on Venice Boulevard has a community room

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jim murez: that that was put in under a conditional use. Permit that I mean it's part of their permit conditions. So that's also an opportunity. If you wanted to use that, although it's kind of a dismal place and it's well located for us, though I mean, you gotta realize this board. We're pretty much all pretty accessible to that.

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jim murez: Yeah, it I mean again as well as it may be. It's it's not. It's not as nice as any of the restaurants. If you meet a little earlier, maybe you can hit the hit restaurants before the crowd.

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robertthibodeau: and and maybe they'll just let you serve water. So that's a way to do it, James. Speech. Let's fit. Yeah, they're closed. Let's finish up this and sorry. No, it's all good thanks for letting us know. I kind of heard that through a daft a little bit more in relation to the board. But

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robertthibodeau: yep, okay. So Evans got his hand up he should be asking himself to speak. So.

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Evan Corrigan: Yeah. So

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Evan Corrigan: I don't think it. It hurts to bring this

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Evan Corrigan: discussion up again, because a lot of things have changed through Covid, and

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Evan Corrigan: I guess it'll just bring up a discussion of what can be done. And so the dad did bring up. So Allison talked about enforcement of

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Evan Corrigan: ticketing and toing and stuff. But

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Evan Corrigan: you know, I have noticed, like people sprinter vans and commercial vehicles that are like

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Evan Corrigan: way over size for those small.

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Evan Corrigan: you know, highly Torres, the pedestrian streets.

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Evan Corrigan: So I think it would be worthwhile to

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Evan Corrigan: to vote this through.

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Evan Corrigan: That's all.

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jim murez: Okay, can Can I just add to that, You know, if it's a commercial vehicle, it's not allowed to be parked on residential streets? Now.

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robertthibodeau: yeah, has to have commercial plates.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah, there's a fine, I mean, there's a lot of our retired box trucks, you know. It's the you all things that people are living in now, or whatever they're doing.

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Evan Corrigan: or he's in a truck that people pick up the scooters with to charge them, you know.

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Alright.

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Okay, we got Elizabeth's hand up.

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Elizabeth C.: Yeah. So like I have a

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Elizabeth C.: unique situation to that

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Elizabeth C.: sort of piggybacks on this on Harrison we have. So these Rvs are now getting stored there.

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paying

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Elizabeth C.: per month to sit at certain.

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Elizabeth C.: I guess they're kind of like mechanic slots.

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Elizabeth C.: and the mechanic lots are running out of spaces, so

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Elizabeth C.: they're finding their mechanic buddies to shunt them over, to which is

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Elizabeth C.: the one at the top of Harrison and Lincoln he's then shunting them down onto the street.

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Elizabeth C.: and not just our vs, but also broken down vans and things like that. It's like there's a whole sub business that

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Elizabeth C.: springing up from this. And so I asked. I explain that he couldn't park his commercial vehicles

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Elizabeth C.: on the street because he's a mechanic. You can't.

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Elizabeth C.: and he, you know, he, of course, he argued, and then I had the parking Enforcement officer come by. So I put her on the spot.

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Elizabeth C.: and she told me I was not correct. She'd never heard that that

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Elizabeth C.: commercial businesses can't park their vehicles, that they're working on on the street. So i'd love a commentary on that.

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Elizabeth C.: and so that also explored

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Elizabeth C.: where this would go after like this. If this motion gets voted through V and C. What's the next step for it? And what's the appetite so that she could maybe speak to that. And I think she's really prepared for the outcome based on what she was told. So it'd be interesting for you guys to hear that, too.

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robertthibodeau: Okay, Doke, seeing no more board comment. Do we want to take a vote on Item 8?

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Elizabeth C.: Does anyone on the board? Can anyone comment to my question about whether commercial vehicles that people are like mechanics. Cars

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Elizabeth C.: can be parked on the street.

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jim murez: My my experience has been that that they're not allowed to do that. That's there. There are regulations against that, and it's just a question of getting in touch with the the people in charge of La vot to get them to instruct their

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jim murez: foot patrol, or whatever we're calling the

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Elizabeth C.: so it's just it's like a it's a brand new gimmick to i'd never heard this before, where they're using mechanic slots to store them, and then the mechanics are shunting them out onto the street during the day

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robertthibodeau: and leaving them there as long as they can.

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jim murez: Can I comment on the motion real quick before you pass it? It. It needs to be written

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jim murez: asking the Venice neighbor. I'm. I'm. Just referring now to the way that the motion is written in the way all motions we should be asking the the Bnc. To approve or adopt whatever it is you're asking. So you want to put it in the in. The in. The term of this is being presented to the Vnc. And you want the Board of Officers

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jim murez: to approve or disapprove whatever it is, you're asking them to do.

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robertthibodeau: Okay.

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jim murez: Okay.

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robertthibodeau: How about the Vnc. To write a letter letter in support of the neighbors.

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robertthibodeau: and then we need to send that to the Council Office and L. A. D.

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Right.

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robertthibodeau: You could add it at the end if you want, as a separate sentence.

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Evan Corrigan: how that sentence go

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jim murez: to be sent to, and so the where it the where is, is part of the the discussion.

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jim murez: and it starts off with

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jim murez: the board of officers.

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jim murez: Write a letter to

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jim murez: you. See what I'm. Saying the B. And C Board of officers right? It's not the P. The Ptc. Is going to.

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jim murez: If it's approved by the Parking and Transportation Committee, you're going to be submitting it

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jim murez: on the behalf of them. It's not part of the motion.

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jim murez: The motion is, what's the board supposed to do?

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Evan Corrigan: The letter to CD. 11.

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jim murez: Yeah. In other words, all the where, as stuff should go in up up above where it's this item description

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jim murez: for discussion. Excuse me

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jim murez: all the way down to where it says

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jim murez: V and C to right

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jim murez: keep taking out. I mean all of that

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jim murez: all the way up to the 2.

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Evan Corrigan: What 2?

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jim murez: Where it says to right to write a letter.

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jim murez: don't don't do a second cut, or you're going to lose the first part the whereas you'd be moved up above.

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jim murez: So paste the where is up above

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Evan Corrigan: here.

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jim murez: No, no up of one hire item for discussion.

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jim murez: There you go. Put a fresh line after that.

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jim murez: Well, okay, I put it at the end.

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jim murez: So it's a it's a whereas

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jim murez: that.

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jim murez: And and then down below

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jim murez: the the the Bnc. Board of officers writes a letter to

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jim murez: the Ptc Doesn't. Belong there anymore. Where the Ptc. Is not requesting it. That's going to be in the agenda request that you submit.

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jim murez: Does that make sense?

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Evan Corrigan: Oh, sorry. I'm very dead. Today

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jim murez: It's okay. You've almost got it.

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jim murez: Just where. Take out. Take out the Dvnc.

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Evan Corrigan: Okay.

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jim murez: And it's the board of officers.

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jim murez: right? A letter to you can take out the word too.

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jim murez: Write a letter to CD. 11 support for neighborhood

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jim murez: efforts to obtain that in conjunction with this.

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jim murez: on this location between there and there and then at the end the distribution would be

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jim murez: you just in a in a separate line, just say distribution

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jim murez: CD 11

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jim murez: and La Dot.

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jim murez: But you really need a a contact email for

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jim murez: La Dot.

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jim murez: John smith@lacity.org, whatever that person is that you want to send to.

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robertthibodeau: Can we have somebody, and we folded it this for now and then. Yeah, yeah, you can fill that in.

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jim murez: And actually, once CD. 11 has a transportation deputy. You would probably also put in the transportation Deputy's email address.

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Oh.

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Evan Corrigan: right?

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jim murez: So yeah, if you can write your agendas like that, it will make life much simpler and much clearer when it gets to the board.

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Selena Inouye: and just a point of information. I was told today that the transportation deputies for CD 11 are Jeff Carl, Kh: a You and Shawn Silva.

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Evan Corrigan: I thought that was the planning director. Correct.

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Selena Inouye: That's what it says on the website. But I received an email from Kevin Brunke today.

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Selena Inouye: and that's the information that he gave me.

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jim murez: And so, Evan, it's always first named last name@lacity.org.

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Evan Corrigan: Okay.

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Evan Corrigan: So i'll just put a

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Evan Corrigan: so.

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How?

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Selena Inouye: And Shawn Silva.

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robertthibodeau: how about as long as you're doing this, Selena? Who do we have at La do t

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Selena Inouye: that I have to research for you. I I don't know. Who

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Selena Inouye: is that information on the form that you get sent in

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robertthibodeau: the led ot contact.

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robertthibodeau: Let me see if I can find out for you.

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robertthibodeau: Okay.

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robertthibodeau: Elizabeth, can you take your hand down?

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Thanks.

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robertthibodeau: All right. We have a motion.

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robertthibodeau: Let's do a roll call. Vote.

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robertthibodeau: Evan.

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Yes.

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robertthibodeau: Selena.

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Selena Inouye: Yes.

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robertthibodeau: Elizabeth, Yes.

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Alyson Wilson: Allison. Yes.

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robertthibodeau: and Robert is a Us.

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robertthibodeau: So we have 5 0 0.

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robertthibodeau: The motion passes.

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Evan Corrigan: Okay, cool.

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What.

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Evan Corrigan: Elizabeth? Take a look at a an example in silver, like where a mechanic was parking

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Evan Corrigan: cars on the street. And it was a big news story. So maybe there's something there.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah, I mean, I think we can take that up. But I think that's a separate. I think that's a separate

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robertthibodeau: agenda item for a like, you know future.

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Elizabeth C.: you know, if somebody wants to. If this is successful, he and you can't have oversized vehicles totally noted dueling, and it starts spreading the word. Yeah, I need another reason, because the parking Enforcement officer wasn't willing to support me. So

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robertthibodeau: Yup.

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robertthibodeau: So let's do Shawn's, which I believe is number 9.

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robertthibodeau: I actually

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robertthibodeau: i'm going to recuse myself from Number 9 because I own property on Lincoln Boulevard and

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robertthibodeau: you're talking about something that has financial impacts. I will recuse myself. Good luck

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robertthibodeau: Can you discuss or you just have to be?

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robertthibodeau: And maybe I will do that.

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Evan Corrigan: It might be helpful because we'll talk about impact fees and all sorts of stuff you know about.

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robertthibodeau: So

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robertthibodeau: while I agree and sentiment to to undergrounding the utilities, not just on Lincoln, but you know, throughout really, throughout

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robertthibodeau: Venice, I think it would.

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robertthibodeau: It would be beneficial.

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robertthibodeau: but certainly on Lincoln would would help with the

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robertthibodeau: with the aesthetics, and then also just the trees which Shawn brings up. You're being able to plant larger specimen trees.

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robertthibodeau: more fitting with the size of the Boulevard.

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robertthibodeau: The utility lines that run up and down Lincoln on the front part of Lincoln, which is really what you're talking about.

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robertthibodeau: Those Aren't service lines to the businesses.

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robertthibodeau: Those are general high voltage power lines that are part of the greater grid that serves Santa Monica. It's there's south of here those lines. If you look at them, they don't drop down to to the businesses. They

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robertthibodeau: they continue onward. And that's true of both the data. And it's true of the

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robertthibodeau: line voltage in the middle, and it's true if the high voltage way up at the top.

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robertthibodeau: That's why we've got such tall power polls there.

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robertthibodeau: The cost of undergrounding something like that is almost unfathomable, and although it has been done in Santa Monica. I believe it was done with the city in conjunction

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robertthibodeau: with Caltrans and the utility companies. I don't think it was put on the property owners.

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robertthibodeau: So

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robertthibodeau: what I see is potentially

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robertthibodeau: problems.

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robertthibodeau: because you've got in general very small parcels.

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robertthibodeau: And so, if you start attributing development fees to people.

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robertthibodeau: You know what's the bar, you know, If you're trying to improve your property, what's the bar there?

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robertthibodeau: And if we are trying to get more

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robertthibodeau: like If Lincoln is an appropriate place for a mixed.

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affordable, and

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robertthibodeau: affordable and market rate housing as a typology over commercial, which seems like a nice idea.

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robertthibodeau: Would you make that sort of too prohibitively expensive.

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robertthibodeau: due to

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robertthibodeau: the undergrounding, which I I think you know so if you're talking a 25 foot wide lot

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robertthibodeau: that person do pays into a kitty some amount, you know, or

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robertthibodeau: I don't know

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robertthibodeau: it. It seems slightly problematic to me. The

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robertthibodeau: electricity that serves the actual corridor is in the alley in the back that serves

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robertthibodeau: the the stores that you see is in in the

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robertthibodeau: is actually behind. But anyways.

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robertthibodeau: but in general I do like the idea of undergrounding. I just have an issue with the other part of it. But

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jim murez: okay, i'm gonna check out, Robert, before you check out. Can I ask you a question? Did you check with the city attorney whether or not something of this magnitude was actually a a conflict of interest?

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robertthibodeau: Well, i'm gonna I'm gonna say that, you know, due to the scrutiny of the board. By

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jim murez: so to the public i'd rather just check out my my reason. My reason for asking is because there are some projects that affect everyone in the community in such a large way that no one individual property owner is. Is.

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robertthibodeau: I. I completely agree with that. And when the when the issue of the bus lines and stuff came up to me, that was sort of an overall community issue this because it's specifically in Shawn's motion talks about developer fees for

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robertthibodeau: the things I feel like it.

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robertthibodeau: It could potentially affect me as a property owner, so i'd rather not risk it. How about that? But what I'm suggesting is this is going to come back around several more times. This is not going to get resolved tonight.

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jim murez: and and I think it's going to come before the board which you're on as well.

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jim murez: I I would strongly recommend. It's just a simple email. Yeah, Explain the situation to her. If she writes back. Yes, it's a conflict. Then stay out of it. If she writes back. No, it's not. Then you can participate without any problem.

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robertthibodeau: If someone could please text me because i'm gonna close my computer. If someone could please text me when you guys are done with this

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robertthibodeau: Bye, bye.

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Evan Corrigan: Jim, can I speak on this now, or do we open it up to public

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Evan Corrigan: so normally the way that it works is you read the motion? You

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jim murez: get it, somebody to make the motion. Somebody else will. Then second the motion. Then you ask the rest of the committee. Does anybody have any questions about the motion that needs to be clarified? If no one has any questions you then open it up for public comment.

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jim murez: You let everybody have their minute or 2 min or 5 min, whatever you're giving them to speak in public comment. Then you have to use the words. I'm closing public comment now

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jim murez: and then you go back to committee discussion.

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jim murez: and then you take a vote.

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Evan Corrigan: Can I edit the motion? Can I? Can we discuss that before we?

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jim murez: Yeah, I mean.

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jim murez: it's best to read the motion the way it is, and then save an alternate to it and and and get that out there.

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Evan Corrigan: So does everybody on the board

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Evan Corrigan: understand?

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Evan Corrigan: To ask here

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Evan Corrigan: to underground the power polls on the again.

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Evan Corrigan: So Shawn brought it up. You know

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Evan Corrigan: Lots mandated housing going on, and

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Evan Corrigan: community plan updates things like that. It might be a good time to think about that. So

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Evan Corrigan: whereas development on Lincoln boulevard is allowed to height 75 feet on the east side of the street.

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Evan Corrigan: whereas neighboring boulevards have had their power lines undergrounded. The then this transportation Committee Parking and Transportation Committee

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Evan Corrigan: request that the Venezuela Council recommend to L. A. Dwp.

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Evan Corrigan: The City 11 Council Office

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Evan Corrigan: and L. A. D. O. T. The property developers, with projects located

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Evan Corrigan: on the portion of Lincoln Boulevard within Venice

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Evan Corrigan: bear the incremental cost of bearing exposed electrical

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Evan Corrigan: telephone and telephone lines.

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Evan Corrigan: bringing sidewalks to 88 compliance

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Evan Corrigan: and planting trees and other greenery, all of which

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Evan Corrigan: bring community and environmental benefit to the area.

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Evan Corrigan: So

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Evan Corrigan: I feel like this is

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Evan Corrigan: a really big thing

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Evan Corrigan: like way above

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Evan Corrigan: the parking and transportation committee.

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Evan Corrigan: Is it something? I mean? I think it's a good thing

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Evan Corrigan: I know. I talked to

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Evan Corrigan: Eric Bruns about this as well.

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Evan Corrigan: and he suggested

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Evan Corrigan: development impact fees for those larger buildings. Is it something that you know?

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Evan Corrigan: Somebody at the Council Office can look into and

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Evan Corrigan: see what other communities have done, because this is like a very

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Evan Corrigan: I mean, this is like millions and millions of dollars.

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These things

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Elizabeth C.: i'm happy to tell you that I put this forward

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Elizabeth C.: to

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Elizabeth C.: people that

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Elizabeth C.: could have moved forward, and they laughed and said, Wait for the next earthquake.

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Elizabeth C.: That's about the only time this would happen

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Elizabeth C.: so I mean I don't want to like. Let it die on

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Elizabeth C.: on someone's statement, but they were.

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Elizabeth C.: I think they're pretty valid. We're struggling to get by as a city. You know.

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Elizabeth C.: basically

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Elizabeth C.: I think that

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Elizabeth C.: this won't be front and center. I don't know if it's the hill we want to die on, you know.

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Evan Corrigan: I mean there's all sorts of.

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Evan Corrigan: you know. There's the Infrastructure Act, Federal grants that can be

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Evan Corrigan: like state grants.

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Elizabeth C.: You know it's coming, so there's no better time. But

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so

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okay.

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Selena Inouye: can I ask a clarifying question before we move on.

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Selena Inouye: Is is this a motion that should also be heard by the Lupeck Committee.

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Selena Inouye: because I feel like there might be some

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crossover here with this issue with Lupeck

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that

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alright.

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Evan Corrigan: Shawn did.

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Evan Corrigan: I think you brought this to loop back to right.

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Sean Obrien: Yes, it was included in the proposal just last Thursday

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Sean Obrien: at Lupeck, and it was voted unanimously

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Sean Obrien: between Washington and Maxwell

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Sean Obrien: only

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Sean Obrien: because the rest of the the rest of the leak of Boulevard got punted

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Sean Obrien: to another time. I think most mostly due to outreach.

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Sean Obrien: because you guys got to understand what's going on here is with Lincoln Boulevard, between Navy and Maxella.

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Sean Obrien: We're looking at building heights, going from 75 to 96 feet tall.

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Sean Obrien: so there's going to be huge redevelopment along the corridor.

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Sean Obrien: And we're saying, Well, if you're going to put in that density, and that the first of all you're going to put in that building height

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Sean Obrien: and then get all these density bonuses and

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Sean Obrien: basically limited parking based on how new laws are written.

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Sean Obrien: What will Venice get as a community benefit

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Sean Obrien: from allowing this to happen. And so it was my ideas. Well, there will never be a more golden time to bury these lines if we don't bury them now. They'll never get buried.

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Sean Obrien: and the city is also looking for all kinds of ways to add greenery to lower surface temperatures

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Sean Obrien: as well as beautification and environmental. You know the the trees

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Sean Obrien: diminish the noise of traffic.

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Sean Obrien: they clean the air, they bring shade and cooler temperatures. So the city is already like looking for ways to add more trees. Right now. We can't add trees because the lines are so low

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Sean Obrien: we can only add real short little tiny trees. We can't really have a canopy

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Sean Obrien: with the motion to the only thing that that I had in it that's not in this one

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Sean Obrien: is, I had a specific

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from Navy to Mexico.

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Sean Obrien: and I don't see that in this motion here.

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Sean Obrien: But I i'm still here, if you guys, so I don't want to take up too much time.

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Sean Obrien: If you guys have any questions i'll mute myself and let you all talk.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Right?

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Evan Corrigan: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, we can vote on this, and

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jim murez: before before you go that right you need to make the motion somebody needs second, and then you can open it for discussion. You're not supposed to be discussing until you make the motion and and get it seconded. Then you can start the

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Evan Corrigan: so can we just

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Evan Corrigan: maybe

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Evan Corrigan: make the motion

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jim murez: and then discuss it and edit it.

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Evan Corrigan: I'll make the motion.

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Elizabeth C.: and i'll second the motion for you

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Evan Corrigan: great. So you want to keep track of that. Yeah.

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Evan Corrigan: Yeah.

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jim murez: Okay, opening up to now. Now you're asking for for. Is there any questions from the committee about what the motion currently says

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Evan Corrigan: any questions from the committee.

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Selena Inouye: Actually, I have one more

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Selena Inouye: question, and I don't know the answer.

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Selena Inouye: I know, with the 2 specific plans that cover

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Selena Inouye: developer fees, and then that money is supposed to go to mobility and transportation projects. I don't know if that money can be spent on infrastructure like power lines.

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Selena Inouye: I do know the money can be spent on sidewalks.

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Selena Inouye: but I don't know if it can be spent

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Selena Inouye: to put the power lines underground.

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Selena Inouye: so that's my only concern is

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Selena Inouye: from transportation point of view. Is there a land use? Let me let me just interrupt real quick, clarifying questions to the motion that's on the floor.

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jim murez: That's what's supposed to come before public comment.

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Selena Inouye: So that's my question. It it with the coastal trans record. Our specific plan, cover the cost of putting the power lines underground.

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Selena Inouye: because that's the only mobility and transportation specific plan that i'm aware of that would deal with sidewalks potentially, and does collect developer fees.

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jim murez: And so so now, Evan, now you take it to public comment.

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Evan Corrigan: Yeah, I can't answer that.

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Evan Corrigan: But public comment.

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jim murez: I have a few.

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Evan Corrigan: but i'll. I'll go last i'll let's Cj: go.

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jim murez: Yeah, please.

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Evan Corrigan: Cj.

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CJ Cole: Can you hear me now? I am muted?

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Evan Corrigan: Yep. You're good.

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CJ Cole: First of all, I think this is just blue sky, and that everybody is wasting a lot of important time.

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CJ Cole: They could go forward to something that might be possible.

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CJ Cole: you know. You know, if you're going to do it with development.

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CJ Cole: All you can do is put it in a pot until you get enough money to do it.

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CJ Cole: Nobody is gonna underground in front of one property and then have it pop back up to a telephone pole until you get another property developing

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CJ Cole: It's just absolutely ludicrous. There's a lot that's gonna happen with this whole discussion of the Lincoln corridor, and how it's and this could be a part of that. And you're right. It is Wasn't Lupe.

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CJ Cole: but it is certainly not the most important part, and we have already probably wasted a half an hour on it. We wasted at least an hour and loop back a couple of nights ago. And it's just it's not going to go anywhere. So why was the time? Thank you.

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Evan Corrigan: Okay, Any more public comment. Jim.

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jim murez: Yeah, I do

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jim murez: hang on 1 s.

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jim murez: Can you do me a favor and mute

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jim murez: Roberts

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jim murez: connection? I'm not host anymore. I can't do it.

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jim murez: But I think his son may have touched the computer.

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jim murez: Thank you that got it.

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jim murez: So first of all, I want to tell you that I do believe that it is possible to get this ball rolling, and and I think it just takes the willpower.

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jim murez: If if somebody wanted to do the research

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jim murez: to look up the 1,900 sixtys

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legislation

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jim murez: that required all utility companies in the State of California to underground their utilities.

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jim murez: and and find that legislation that that was passed that allowed led Ot and Sacramento dot, which are both connected

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jim murez: to the municipalities, to be opted out of the requirement of putting their profit revenue back into

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jim murez: the the undergrounding of utilities. That piece of legislation could then be sent up to our legislator.

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jim murez: and and a guy like Ben Allen could take a look at it, and possibly start to

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jim murez: allow us to to get the benefit that all other communities in California are getting

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jim murez: that aside.

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jim murez: I was in a meeting last night

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jim murez: with the group of Presidents

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jim murez: and of neighborhood councils throughout the city.

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jim murez: and there's something that's called the E. I. F. D.

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jim murez: Which stands for enhanced infrastructure, financial district.

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jim murez: And and that's a

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jim murez: a fund that's being supplied by the Federal Government

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jim murez: to cities, and it takes a regional request to be sent in to do exactly this kind of project.

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jim murez: and they do have

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jim murez: billions of dollars to hand out.

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jim murez: And and

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jim murez: this is exactly that kind of thing.

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jim murez: Robert was correct in saying that the utilities that are there go up to Santa Monica, and then they dive underground and go into the Santa Monica Switching Station, which is at the

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jim murez: Broadway and Link, and and you know, or Colorado, and like, can I forget which one? I think it's Colorado actually.

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jim murez: And and

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jim murez: there's no reason

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jim murez: that private property owners, whether they're developers or not, should be paying for that. Any new development today is already required to bring their utilities up the poll.

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jim murez: and they already are, are are bringing the powers underground, and then go up the poll to be able to get their services, so it's not as they're taking them off the top of buildings anymore. They take them up poll instead.

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jim murez: and that's in line with with being able to underground at some point in time in the future. So

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jim murez: it is very much part of what Shawn is asking for.

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jim murez: but I think that the way to get it done is to a do the research

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jim murez: and be to get the enhancement

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jim murez: funds available.

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jim murez: and and in conjunction with

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jim murez: anything that the

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jim murez: the the the Senator might be able to do for us. He may be able to just write us a letter that he would be in support

739
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jim murez: of of being able to do this once. He understands that the legislation is going to be very difficult to break.

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jim murez: and and that might be the way to go about doing it.

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jim murez: So that's my 2 cents. I did a lot of research with this on this, by the way, about 15 or 20 years ago, with Deborah Bowen, who was our

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jim murez: State secretary, for I don't know 6 or 8 years. She was there a long time. She actually looked up. I think it was a 1963

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jim murez: legislative bill. So if we can find that that bill

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jim murez: that that that that that we might be able to start doing something.

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Evan Corrigan: can I ask you the variance cycle. Can I ask you what happened

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jim murez: after your research? Well, we decided that that because the utilities it opted out she didn't want to take it on, and I didn't have the bandwidth. I was busy planting trees at the time.

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jim murez: and you know I was trying to to to plant trees. You know exactly the same problem that Shawn is referring to. There's several streets, including Venice Boulevard, where the power lines are way up high. I mean, you know. It's interesting

748
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jim murez: that

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jim murez: about 10 or 12 years ago

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jim murez: the Mta. Was planning on. Going to an electric

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jim murez: bus require me, and they were starting to to gear up for electric buses, and they wanted to do, and Ngc. Or whatever it was natural, compressed gas, and they needed a whole lot more power at the at the 100 sunset site.

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jim murez: and if you go by there now, you can look. There's this huge transformer bank up in the air that they never ended up using. But they did run a whole new set of high power wires down electric all the way to Venice Boulevard, and up Tennis boulevard to where it tied into the ones that are over on the

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jim murez: on on Lincoln. And as a result.

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jim murez: if any of those people ever wanted to get those wires put underground. The cost to do that is now, you know again, another 1 million dollars a foot, or whatever it is. It's a ridiculous amount of money.

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jim murez: and there was no consideration whatsoever given to putting them underground at the time. And so, you know, these were the kinds of things that I was combating when I was planting trees in the nineties, and and that's why I was very involved in it at the time, and and just didn't have time to to deal with it, and it just seemed like a big uphill battle. But

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jim murez: and and she did, she didn't have time, either, so

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jim murez: he wasn't it wasn't within her the scope of her project. But she she did have one of her staffers at the time. Do the research find the bill, and so I think she said it was a 1,963 bill.

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jim murez: So

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Evan Corrigan: thank you.

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Evan Corrigan: Shawn.

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Sean Obrien: Yes, thank you.

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Sean Obrien: my my whole thing was. Is, it's ridiculous statement to say 1, 1, 1, one developer, is going to do it on their on their block, or are there 30 feet of frontage whatever? And then on underground, that section. No, we all know this is going to be done in huge chunks.

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Sean Obrien: because that's gonna we? You're gonna lower the cost. So you know, you might be doing it quarter mile, half mile at a time.

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Sean Obrien: So the idea is is.

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Sean Obrien: yeah, it's like a public partnership, you know, if there's a developer impact fees.

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Sean Obrien: if, if like money is like what Jim was saying. Jim's very knowledgeable on this

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Sean Obrien: and the way I look at it is, if they're going to destroy the Lincoln corridor, going 75 to 100 feet tall. We might as well get something out of

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Sean Obrien: so, and you know, if it takes us a little bit of time, Lupex, already involved with it. I was told that this I had to start.

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Sean Obrien: and the at at this committee, so that's why I brought it here.

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Sean Obrien: I think it's definitely we're doing. I live

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Sean Obrien: couple of blocks from the beach, so I have no skin in the game. I didn't like.

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Sean Obrien: Think of this thinking that all you know. I'm going to make my neighborhood better.

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Sean Obrien: It's just that we've all been saying for decades, you know

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Sean Obrien: you know how on slightly these lines are.

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Sean Obrien: and why do they stop in Santa Monica? So when I heard about this new Venice plan that's happening.

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Sean Obrien: and it sounds like

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Sean Obrien: all CD. 11 as well as the city is got a real big hard on for actually

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Sean Obrien: creating this dense corridor along Lincoln Boulevard, because there's not many other places where they can create this density. I'm just saying, hey, we might as well get something out of.

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Sean Obrien: So instead of fighting, you know, Tooth. And now trying to stop the development. Why, Don't, we fight for something that's gonna probably end up happening with Sb. 9 and Sp 2, or whatever things that came down from Sacramento that we now have to comply with.

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Sean Obrien: So i'm just saying we might as well get something out of it. And I hope you guys approve the motion.

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Sean Obrien: I'm: I'm still online. I'm gonna let you guys talk. I'll be myself. Thank you.

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jim murez: Can I Just one quick comment. Shawn keeps mentioning the height of

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jim murez: 75 to 100 feet. The motion that was passed at loop pack was an absolute 75 feet, which means that they cannot exceed that for

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jim murez: a a higher density, bonus or anything else. It was an absolute 75 feet, which made it very very clear in their motion that that any density bonus has to be given within that height range. They They can't continue to go up to 95 fe claiming they get more rights.

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Evan Corrigan: Okay, we have that in the motion. Thank you.

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Selena. Can we do board? Comment now?

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Selena Inouye: Yes, I think we can, Selena. So actually, Jim kind of rang a bell for me back in 2,015. Bonnan had looked at doing a.

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Selena Inouye: E. I. Fd for Venice.

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Selena Inouye: I don't think it ever went through. I think this this is back. I like, I said, in 2,015

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Selena Inouye: in 2,017.

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Selena Inouye: There was a report that the city did with regard to proposed Eif D establishment and investment policy. So whoever wants to run with this, I can go ahead and shoot you to the links. To this.

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Selena Inouye: because I I think Jim is correct. The eifd would probably be the most appropriate way to fund this moving forward.

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Selena Inouye: That's all I wanted to share. Thanks.

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Evan Corrigan: I agree with Selena and Jim as well.

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I think

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Evan Corrigan: so. It could be like

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Evan Corrigan: there could be a Dnc. AD Hoc committee just for this.

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Evan Corrigan: Our

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Evan Corrigan: power line underground. I get such a

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Evan Corrigan: huge thing.

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Evan Corrigan: Robert's back. I see.

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Evan Corrigan: I don't know if anybody else on the board has an idea of like

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Evan Corrigan: a better motion, something maybe.

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Evan Corrigan: to reach out to, or Ben Allen or

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Evan Corrigan: the Council Office to see how we can get this

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Evan Corrigan: process started, or like

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Evan Corrigan: some actual

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Evan Corrigan: next steps that might go somewhere.

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Evan Corrigan: I don't know, re reaching, you know, going to the Vnc. And sending a Cis.

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Evan Corrigan: it's just going to sit there.

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jim murez: So if you, if you send a motion to the board asking them to take action on something, they'll send out a letter

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jim murez: and and that'll certainly happen.

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jim murez: But

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jim murez: at the end of the day it seems to me like there's some research that needs to be done.

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jim murez: and and by that I mean I would almost say, why not call the dwp? Maybe somebody

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jim murez: wants to take the time and effort to do it and say, what would it cost to underground the utilities on the West side. What would it cost to take the underground utilities on the East Side, and and maybe even go to the Led Ot

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jim murez: Board of Commissioners meeting.

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jim murez: and in their public comment

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jim murez: tell them that you want to apply for a

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jim murez: funding, and and before you can do that, you'd need to get this information to just have some idea of the scope of what they're talking about, and you know what they know off the top of their head, based on the amount of voltage that's being transmitted back and forth in those wires.

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jim murez: How much it cost to go underground! They're not going to have an exact number, but they'll give you a ballpark idea. I think, that it, If you could get that as a starting point

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jim murez: and find the old legislation that allowed them to opt out of it.

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jim murez: Then you would start to have something to say. Hey? We want you to look at this with that in mind, and and then you could start to direct it to

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jim murez: the Board of Public Works, or to

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jim murez: you know the the Council woman, or the mayor, or whatever

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jim murez: it. It would give you a it would give everybody a much better understanding rather than like cj set of pie in the sky. I think it is. You know it's a blue sky dream to make it happen. But if you start getting the details and and you've done a little bit more homework than just to ask for something

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jim murez: that that seems like it's, you know. Probably a a 50 million or or

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jim murez: or more project. Maybe you could actually get it to happen

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jim murez: that that's my

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jim murez: you know. I'm not trying to kick the can down the road, but I think that that just asking the board to do something

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jim murez: is is is not going to end up getting what you want to have done done?

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Evan Corrigan: I totally 100 agree.

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Evan Corrigan: I feel like we should.

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Evan Corrigan: I mean some of those things suggested, I think, would be great. You can look into the E if the

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Evan Corrigan: we talk with Selena on that. Are you offline.

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Evan Corrigan: and we can come back maybe next month.

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Evan Corrigan: and try to think of some next steps for this.

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Evan Corrigan: because it would be a shame to just

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Evan Corrigan: send it to the B and C, and then

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Evan Corrigan: and then we wouldn't discuss it again.

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Selena Inouye: And Evan, just another point of information. Dwp has meetings on the first Saturday of every month

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Selena Inouye: they alternate. There's a Dwp Neighborhood Council Mou Oversight committee.

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Selena Inouye: and then there's the Dwp Advocacy Committee.

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Selena Inouye: and it may actually be possible for the Vnc. To appoint someone to attend these Dwp meetings on a regular basis, and not only report back in terms of what led Wp. Is doing, but but could also make connections there

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Selena Inouye: and get the information from La Dwp about the possibility of doing this project. So

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if you

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Selena Inouye: just Google

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Selena Inouye: La Dwp Neighborhood councils, there's a web page that will come up, and I can also send you the URL to offline.

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jim murez: Thank you, Selena. That's a great suggestion. Let me just dive in here. Real quick. Yolanda Gonzales, I believe, is is our Ledwp rep.

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jim murez: and she does attend those meetings she has for many years, and I will reach out to her and ask her if she can get a quote

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jim murez: and and see if she can get any details on it at all.

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jim murez: and then and then have her report back to you guys.

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Evan Corrigan: Thank you.

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Evan Corrigan: So can we? Just

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Evan Corrigan: on this discussion to next month?

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Evan Corrigan: I think that would make sense. If everybody agrees we can look into the

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Evan Corrigan: all the stuff we just talked about a little bit more.

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Sean Obrien: Yeah, this should make it more meaningful.

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Sean Obrien: Yeah, I really, I hate to interrupt. I really appreciate it more than anything. What I wanted to do is just. I have us start the conversation which we've done, and i'm very thankful. Thank you.

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Evan Corrigan: I think everybody's wanted this for decades, and it would be

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Evan Corrigan: a huge thing to have trees, big trees on Lincoln Boulevard, and

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Evan Corrigan: many people have said, You know it's like

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Evan Corrigan: It's the people take from the airport. It's like the entrance to the city.

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Evan Corrigan: and

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Evan Corrigan: it doesn't look great.

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Evan Corrigan: Okay.

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Evan Corrigan: i'm gonna text, Robert.

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Evan Corrigan: come back.

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jim murez: You want to take a look at the you might. You might want to just put in your notes. So when you have your your minutes, it would say it's being postponed to

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march

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jim murez: to to be reconsidered in March.

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jim murez: No, you could. Well, that's right.

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Evan Corrigan: Okay.

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Evan Corrigan: Robert. You back.

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Okay.

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Evan Corrigan: I didn't hear back from him. So we just

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Evan Corrigan: get into these selena. It's through rock motions.

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Selena Inouye: Yeah, that's fine.

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Selena Inouye: This I interactive Kios program. It's a motion that's already past rack. It's actually an adopted position. But I just wanted to bring this up in case Venice would like to join the coalition of councils that are supporting this.

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Selena Inouye: There's it's basically a motion that's come through the Tourism Committee on the City Council.

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Selena Inouye: and they want to install these digital interactive kios on the sidewalk

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Selena Inouye: as a way finding measure.

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Selena Inouye: and we discussed it at the Mobility and Transportation Committee.

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Selena Inouye: and

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Selena Inouye: a lot of the objections had to do with driver distraction.

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Selena Inouye: and actually distracting anybody on the street going by having these Chios on the street.

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Selena Inouye: not only because they well, not only because they're going to provide information, but they can also be used for advertising as well.

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Selena Inouye: The other issue here is that

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Selena Inouye: the street or the sidewalk has never been monetized in this fashion before, and it was felt that there wasn't enough of a

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Selena Inouye: evaluation process with regard to this process, I mean with with regards to this proposal.

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Selena Inouye: So that's kind of the broad strokes on this. There's a background document on on the rack website, West Side councils.com that goes into a little bit more detail about it.

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Selena Inouye: so i'll leave it at there, and if you have any questions you can let me know. Thanks.

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Evan Corrigan: so can I vote to make the motion.

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Selena Inouye: then i'll second it.

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Evan Corrigan: Public comment.

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Evan Corrigan: Shawn. O'brien.

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Sean Obrien: Yeah, i'm against the the motion

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Sean Obrien: for the reason stated there

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Sean Obrien: one thing that's not on there is the vandalism that these things will receive.

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Sean Obrien: They're gonna get scratched up and painted all over.

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Sean Obrien: and then the whole thing about tourist information. Everybody's got cell phones now, everybody Googles everything. So the information is already there, so I don't know what sort of information they're going to be providing to people who who don't already have that information or won't be able to get it easily.

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Sean Obrien: But that's it. Thanks. Guys

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Great

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Evan Corrigan: Steve Bradbury.

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Yeah.

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Evan Corrigan: A lot of top.

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Steve Bradbury: Sorry I have a question. Is there Are there revenue models that show how much the city is going to make from this? Because there's one thing to do it

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Steve Bradbury: for the benefit of tourists, but it seems like it's a

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Steve Bradbury: revenue model that is being disguised as a public service.

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Steve Bradbury: I don't know if there's any information about that.

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Evan Corrigan: Selena. Do you know if there's any information?

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Selena Inouye: So there isn't any information about that? And that's one of the questions that was brought up with regard to this program. This is something new and different that hasn't been done before.

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Selena Inouye: and it's not clear

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Selena Inouye: where the advertising revenue would go.

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Selena Inouye: which is why, again. The rock mobility and transportation committee had

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Selena Inouye: propose this motion against this program.

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Evan Corrigan: usually like a 50 50 split between the odd company and the city. Right.

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Jim.

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jim murez: My, my my recollection when they did the bus shelters. It was much less than that.

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jim murez: I think, that the city ended up not getting a penny out of it, because the program was so poorly implemented that only the

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jim murez: the the billboard companies got money out of it, and I think that they just went back to try and reorganize it, and it came out to be much more expensive than they originally planned in the city. You know they had to buy into the whole program of these shade shade shelters that

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jim murez: you know, are nice for people riding the bus. But bus ridership is down so low it didn't make sense to do that, either. But

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jim murez: I I just wanted to think I I I I completely agree with Shawn's comment. I think everybody has a cell phone if they need to find their way, and like the bus benches when they put the bus. When they took out all the bus benches and put in all the bus shelters.

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jim murez: all of the local businesses that used to be able to advertise on those bus benches when they were the old wooden benches that you know, used to all be the local mom and pop shop. So it was the local dry cleaners, the local real estate. All of a sudden it became national. You know lines of of stuff that were big advertisers, and they would take out 100 billboards at a time. It wasn't the local businesses.

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jim murez: and i'm sure that these kiosk are going to be very much the same. The Vnc. Is not going to be allowed to post their agendas on these kiosk is a public service announcement. They're not going to allow local businesses or local community events to be posted there, and if they do, it's going to be a very difficult thing to be able to navigate and and and and get it for free as it should be if it's truly a local surface being provided to the local community.

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jim murez: But it's not it's being provided to

927
01:32:30.360 --> 01:32:33.769
jim murez: to to tourism as advertisers, and that's the bottom line.

928
01:32:34.380 --> 01:32:37.759
jim murez: I I would I would oppose the idea of being able to put these in.

929
01:32:38.540 --> 01:32:39.360
jim murez: Thank you

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01:32:41.170 --> 01:32:41.870
Evan Corrigan: right.

931
01:32:42.570 --> 01:32:43.730
Evan Corrigan: Any Board comment.

932
01:32:48.550 --> 01:32:58.139
Selena Inouye: So, Evan, just to clarify voting. Yes, on this motion is a vote against the Ike Interactive Kiosks program.

933
01:32:58.640 --> 01:32:59.530
Evan Corrigan: Yes.

934
01:32:59.620 --> 01:33:00.839
Evan Corrigan: yes, that is clear.

935
01:33:04.060 --> 01:33:06.020
Evan Corrigan: Shall I put it up for a vote?

936
01:33:07.960 --> 01:33:09.110
Evan Corrigan: Okay, Selena.

937
01:33:11.040 --> 01:33:12.290
Selena Inouye: I vote. Yes.

938
01:33:13.470 --> 01:33:14.769
Elizabeth.

939
01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:15.780
Elizabeth C.: Yes.

940
01:33:16.460 --> 01:33:18.110
Alyson Wilson: awesome. Yes.

941
01:33:18.870 --> 01:33:20.589
Evan Corrigan: And then yes, Robert.

942
01:33:20.650 --> 01:33:22.189
Evan Corrigan: so it'll be on in 10,

943
01:33:23.110 --> 01:33:24.340
Evan Corrigan: so

944
01:33:27.410 --> 01:33:29.659
Evan Corrigan: Jim, can I come back to him for a vote?

945
01:33:35.010 --> 01:33:37.099
Evan Corrigan: I'll just put 4 0 0, for now

946
01:33:38.530 --> 01:33:39.700
Evan Corrigan: can revisit that

947
01:33:41.010 --> 01:33:42.040
Evan Corrigan: Okay.

948
01:33:42.380 --> 01:33:46.170
Evan Corrigan: Item Number 7 or bustling violation for spent

949
01:33:47.480 --> 01:33:51.309
Evan Corrigan: Jim or Selina. I think, Jim, you brought this up, or maybe it was Selena.

950
01:33:53.280 --> 01:33:55.150
Evan Corrigan: If you think one of you want to kind of

951
01:33:55.420 --> 01:33:58.659
Evan Corrigan: i'm sorry i'll put my hand down.

952
01:33:59.620 --> 01:34:01.389
jim murez: What what was did you have a question.

953
01:34:01.730 --> 01:34:05.550
Evan Corrigan: do you? I I think you brought this to the committee. So if you wanna

954
01:34:05.580 --> 01:34:08.839
Evan Corrigan: No, I let's Selena let's.

955
01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:10.309
Selena Inouye: Okay.

956
01:34:10.470 --> 01:34:24.779
Selena Inouye: So this is another motion that came out of the rock Mobility and Transportation Committee just a point of information. This motion has actually already passed the City Council

957
01:34:24.830 --> 01:34:25.910
Selena Inouye: so.

958
01:34:25.930 --> 01:34:35.389
Selena Inouye: and it at the moment it doesn't have enough votes from the Member Councils of Rack to actually be an adopted rack position.

959
01:34:35.510 --> 01:34:40.929
Selena Inouye: and I think it's because, as our local councils have been discussing this.

960
01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:46.239
Selena Inouye: It's been raised the issue of camera enforcement.

961
01:34:46.330 --> 01:34:56.070
Selena Inouye: And I know, for example, we have the red light cameras, and now we don't have them anymore. Because there were legal issues raised about this.

962
01:34:56.300 --> 01:34:59.499
Selena Inouye: However, the city Council has voted.

963
01:34:59.550 --> 01:35:08.749
Selena Inouye: There will be cameras on the buses, i'm. I think there's cameras already on the buses. But there will be cameras now pointing out to the street.

964
01:35:09.010 --> 01:35:27.690
Selena Inouye: and they will be taking pictures of vehicles that are parked in the bus lane, and only parked in the Bus Lane. This this item doesn't deal with moving violations where cars drive in the Bus Lane when they're not supposed to be in the bustling, just part.

965
01:35:27.940 --> 01:35:30.260
Selena Inouye: This motion funds

966
01:35:30.290 --> 01:35:47.439
Selena Inouye: 2 parking officers within led ot or 3, I think, and they are tasked with reviewing the video footage and then issuing the violations which get will get mailed out. Then to the owner of the vehicle.

967
01:35:47.690 --> 01:35:53.469
Selena Inouye: and if you have any questions, let me know. But that's pretty much what this motion is all about.

968
01:35:59.210 --> 01:36:02.130
Evan Corrigan: Okay, Shall we make the motion?

969
01:36:07.210 --> 01:36:08.369
Evan Corrigan: I'll make the motion.

970
01:36:10.710 --> 01:36:14.069
Selena Inouye: I'll second it so we can at least have discussion about it.

971
01:36:14.240 --> 01:36:15.170
Evan Corrigan: Okay.

972
01:36:20.590 --> 01:36:21.920
Evan Corrigan: public comment

973
01:36:22.610 --> 01:36:25.150
Evan Corrigan: number ending in 6, 9 0

974
01:36:32.100 --> 01:36:35.209
Evan Corrigan: number ending in 6, 9, 0. You're allowed to

975
01:36:35.970 --> 01:36:40.980
jim murez: to make comment. I think they have to press Star 9 to to

976
01:36:41.320 --> 01:36:44.129
Evan Corrigan: Oh, yes, Press Star 9 to unmute.

977
01:36:44.720 --> 01:36:46.250
jim murez: And did you unmute them?

978
01:36:50.040 --> 01:36:51.560
Evan Corrigan: I asked them to on mute.

979
01:36:51.740 --> 01:36:52.400
Yeah.

980
01:36:59.090 --> 01:37:05.990
jim murez: is it Star? 9 or star sets maybe star 6. I don't remember. I think one of them does the uphand and the other one.

981
01:37:06.930 --> 01:37:09.449
jim murez: maybe it's Star 6. Shawn. You might be right. Thank you.

982
01:37:17.240 --> 01:37:18.419
Evan Corrigan: Like they're unmuted.

983
01:37:21.250 --> 01:37:23.410
Evan Corrigan: Number ending in 6, 9 0.

984
01:37:28.040 --> 01:37:29.870
1310****690: There am I unmuted?

985
01:37:29.980 --> 01:37:30.719
Evan Corrigan: Yeah.

986
01:37:32.300 --> 01:37:33.110
1310****690: I am.

987
01:37:33.280 --> 01:37:33.900
Yep.

988
01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:39.170
1310****690: Oh, good. Yeah. This is Yolanda. I've been listening to everything.

989
01:37:39.260 --> 01:37:42.040
It's just that I was late getting in

990
01:37:42.140 --> 01:37:43.679
in

991
01:37:44.020 --> 01:37:54.750
1310****690: the support of this i'm. In in favor of this supportive violation. As a matter of fact, they have been I'm here on the corner of Venice and Abbott Kenny.

992
01:37:54.820 --> 01:37:59.900
and they have been enforcing right now a lot of the

993
01:38:00.200 --> 01:38:16.560
1310****690: violations here on the corner because of the new restaurant that we have on the other side, and because of the turn signals here to the right going down on. So there has been some surveillance here on my corner

994
01:38:17.340 --> 01:38:33.779
1310****690: on these violations also, I don't know if you were aware that we had somebody that was hurt or run over the other day here on Abbott Kenny, in front of Farlow's office, too, so there has been a lot of surveillance on this.

995
01:38:34.160 --> 01:38:37.209
1310****690: and I just wanted to report on that.

996
01:38:40.790 --> 01:38:41.719
Evan Corrigan: Thank you.

997
01:38:43.740 --> 01:38:45.049
Evan Corrigan: The other

998
01:38:45.550 --> 01:38:46.610
Evan Corrigan: public Comment

999
01:38:50.950 --> 01:38:51.860
Evan Corrigan: Board comment.

1000
01:38:56.600 --> 01:38:57.190
Nope.

1001
01:38:58.140 --> 01:39:00.120
Evan Corrigan: So we vote on it.

1002
01:39:05.370 --> 01:39:06.759
Elizabeth C.: Love to let's do it.

1003
01:39:07.540 --> 01:39:08.250
Evan Corrigan: It's good.

1004
01:39:09.210 --> 01:39:11.110
Evan Corrigan: Elizabeth.

1005
01:39:11.980 --> 01:39:12.929
Elizabeth C.: Yes.

1006
01:39:15.240 --> 01:39:16.130
Evan Corrigan: Selena.

1007
01:39:16.400 --> 01:39:17.309
Selena Inouye: Yes.

1008
01:39:18.030 --> 01:39:19.860
Alyson Wilson: awesome. Yes.

1009
01:39:20.190 --> 01:39:23.700
Evan Corrigan: Evan. Yes. 4 0

1010
01:39:24.060 --> 01:39:24.900
Evan Corrigan: 0.

1011
01:39:26.930 --> 01:39:27.769
Evan Corrigan: Okay.

1012
01:39:27.950 --> 01:39:30.009
Evan Corrigan: I don't know where Robert went. But

1013
01:39:30.520 --> 01:39:31.629
Evan Corrigan: I think that's

1014
01:39:32.820 --> 01:39:33.540
Evan Corrigan: it.

1015
01:39:33.850 --> 01:39:38.819
Evan Corrigan: Comments on non agenda. Items for consideration.

1016
01:39:39.110 --> 01:39:42.549
jim murez: Yeah, Evan, while Yolanda is on the phone.

1017
01:39:42.910 --> 01:39:46.650
jim murez: and she's listening in you. And I assume you're still there.

1018
01:39:47.320 --> 01:40:00.049
1310****690: This is Jim. Yeah, you're our La Dwp. Representative, and earlier in the meeting, Did you hear the part about the Ledwp?

1019
01:40:00.110 --> 01:40:09.070
jim murez: I cut myself off, and I got back on to the one.

1020
01:40:09.080 --> 01:40:21.080
jim murez: Could you please ask them for a cost breakdown on what it would cost to underground the utilities on Lincoln Boulevard between Navy and Maxella on the east and West sides.

1021
01:40:22.300 --> 01:40:34.380
1310****690: I will. I will find the resource. Who will give us that information to who will give me that information. I am familiar with this case because I had it done on my street not too long ago.

1022
01:40:34.450 --> 01:40:48.150
and I know what how the process takes, but I will definitely. And it was between the Lapd and Pasadena believe it or not, and so I will see if that resource is still available. But it's not. I can go down and find

1023
01:40:48.190 --> 01:40:58.259
jim murez: that information for you guys. Okay. So so our request is very specific, and and I guess i'm asking you as our rep. You go to the to their commission meetings. Right?

1024
01:40:59.020 --> 01:41:02.349
1310****690: No, I have not been to their commission meetings. Never.

1025
01:41:02.450 --> 01:41:14.949
jim murez: I just go to these to the meetings that are held by Jack Humpherville and Mr. Wilkinson, and there, there, that's the led ot meetings that are held every Other Week. Isn't it?

1026
01:41:15.510 --> 01:41:18.140
1310****690: No Hun. It's the

1027
01:41:18.240 --> 01:41:25.269
1310****690: on Saturday, the first Saturday of the month. Yes, okay. So so on the next first Saturday of the month.

1028
01:41:25.450 --> 01:41:33.040
jim murez: Can you put that on your agenda to ask them in public comment? If you can get somebody to give you a quote on that.

1029
01:41:33.910 --> 01:41:36.789
1310****690: Okay, if you click, can I have somebody?

1030
01:41:36.830 --> 01:41:41.559
1310****690: Jim? Excuse me. Can I have somebody send that to my email.

1031
01:41:41.860 --> 01:41:45.340
1310****690: and then I will take that and print it out, and i'll.

1032
01:41:45.390 --> 01:41:54.369
1310****690: I will follow up on that. Okay, very good. And and can I comment on something that very quickly.

1033
01:41:54.450 --> 01:41:57.279
1310****690: and I wasn't able to get in regarding the kills

1034
01:41:57.390 --> 01:42:16.359
1310****690: real quick. There is one that they did an experiment on which is still there. It's on on Huntington. Drive. It's in the sed, and and there is one agree one. They wanted to imitate one that was like a European. The French ones there is one, but it always gets graffiti. If always they're always fixing it up. They're always

1035
01:42:16.370 --> 01:42:31.609
1310****690: painting over it. So there is they did. They wanted to do that experiment on the kills, to put up signs of how to get directions. I will take pictures of that one. But the it. It was when Antonio was a mayor of the city. Okay.

1036
01:42:34.730 --> 01:42:37.480
Evan Corrigan: thank you very much, Jim. Could you? CC:

1037
01:42:37.830 --> 01:42:41.110
jim murez: one of us on that? I will do that? Absolutely

1038
01:42:45.270 --> 01:42:46.090
Evan Corrigan: Any

1039
01:42:47.070 --> 01:42:49.779
Evan Corrigan: comment on on agenda items.

1040
01:42:50.640 --> 01:42:58.940
Selena Inouye: Well, we're here. Did we want to talk a little bit more about where we're going to meet in march? Or do you want to take that conversation offline?

1041
01:43:00.100 --> 01:43:01.780
Evan Corrigan: Yeah, Where do you guys want to mute?

1042
01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:04.380
Evan Corrigan: What did you meet before Covid?

1043
01:43:05.460 --> 01:43:07.309
Selena Inouye: James?

1044
01:43:07.430 --> 01:43:08.690
Elizabeth C.: Is Paloma?

1045
01:43:10.140 --> 01:43:21.619
1310****690: No. At the extra storage. We have that room available. We've had our meetings there for a long time. I can just go down to Ricardo, and he'll give me the

1046
01:43:21.630 --> 01:43:31.420
1310****690: the code again, and and we can fit like 12 people in there, as we. As a matter of fact, we used to have the administrative committee meetings in there.

1047
01:43:33.150 --> 01:43:35.539
Evan Corrigan: Do you have a restaurant? Sounds kind of fun

1048
01:43:39.370 --> 01:43:41.559
Elizabeth C.: because Paloma is not that busy yet?

1049
01:43:42.360 --> 01:43:43.650
Elizabeth C.: You might be able to

1050
01:43:44.540 --> 01:43:48.190
Elizabeth C.: find a corner for us, and it's right next door to storage in it.

1051
01:43:48.510 --> 01:43:50.169
Evan Corrigan: Yeah, could we take a.

1052
01:43:51.580 --> 01:43:53.690
Evan Corrigan: We could probably continue. This offline?

1053
01:43:54.350 --> 01:44:01.729
jim murez: Sounds like somebody needs to be appointed to seeking these things out and talking to the restaurant managers. If you ask me.

1054
01:44:05.330 --> 01:44:06.370
jim murez: Elizabeth.

1055
01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:15.389
Alyson Wilson: I can make some highway with Paloma if you guys are interested in it. I think my friend just took over the F. And B. There the

1056
01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:17.620
Alyson Wilson: the service.

1057
01:44:18.550 --> 01:44:27.680
Elizabeth C.: Yeah. Well, it selfishly speaking, it's around the corner from it, I think then from Robert, too. So

1058
01:44:27.890 --> 01:44:28.929
Elizabeth C.: why not?

1059
01:44:30.230 --> 01:44:31.489
Evan Corrigan: I'm. I'm down.

1060
01:44:31.670 --> 01:44:33.059
Evan Corrigan: Yeah, sure.

1061
01:44:33.080 --> 01:44:38.899
jim murez: The the only things you have to make sure of is is a and you know one can assume

1062
01:44:39.050 --> 01:44:41.469
that they are ada compliant.

1063
01:44:42.020 --> 01:44:45.750
jim murez: which I think all restaurants by this point in time are.

1064
01:44:45.960 --> 01:44:51.509
jim murez: and and that you have space enough for your committee to be able to sit in a

1065
01:44:51.940 --> 01:44:58.720
jim murez: you know, semi quiet, but we used to meet a James beach. We would go up in the back and close the door, and that worked pretty good.

1066
01:44:58.990 --> 01:45:01.009
jim murez: but it can be any restaurant.

1067
01:45:01.250 --> 01:45:09.340
jim murez: but you just have to make sure that you have enough space, and that that they're gonna say okay to people coming in and ordering a glass of water.

1068
01:45:09.360 --> 01:45:13.200
jim murez: You know, some people may order a glass of wine or something more. But

1069
01:45:14.380 --> 01:45:24.269
jim murez: they they have to be aware of the fact that when you're checking out if the space is going to be okay, that they understand that it's a community meeting, and most of the restaurants around will do it.

1070
01:45:24.910 --> 01:45:29.399
Elizabeth C.: I know the the back of Scopa Hasn't been opened, and forever are they

1071
01:45:29.760 --> 01:45:30.909
Elizabeth C.: are, they open?

1072
01:45:31.200 --> 01:45:33.200
Evan Corrigan: Will this speak easy?

1073
01:45:33.600 --> 01:45:36.089
Elizabeth C.: It Hasn't: been used for a long, long time.

1074
01:45:36.960 --> 01:45:38.750
jim murez: Yeah, that'd be a great place.

1075
01:45:40.880 --> 01:45:45.719
Elizabeth C.: Yeah, that would be. It would be quiet. Yeah. Cool.

1076
01:45:46.250 --> 01:45:48.979
Elizabeth C.: Yeah. But you have to pay for parking.

1077
01:45:49.750 --> 01:45:51.269
Elizabeth C.: Yeah, we'll pay Valley

1078
01:45:51.610 --> 01:45:53.120
Elizabeth C.: Park on Washington.

1079
01:45:53.420 --> 01:45:59.920
jim murez: and and parking is not a requirement of having a public meet, not having free parking is not a requirement for public meetings.

1080
01:46:00.040 --> 01:46:04.849
Elizabeth C.: so much so much parking on Washington. It's crazy.

1081
01:46:05.750 --> 01:46:09.140
Elizabeth C.: I didn't say it was safe parking.

1082
01:46:09.360 --> 01:46:16.310
jim murez: But places like Firestone Walker, I mean, you know. They may also be willing to do it. They have that big outdoor area.

1083
01:46:16.570 --> 01:46:20.109
Evan Corrigan: Zinc has a ton of parking and outdoor area.

1084
01:46:20.750 --> 01:46:25.470
Elizabeth C.: They're really loud. I tried their yeah. It was rough.

1085
01:46:25.550 --> 01:46:27.810
Evan Corrigan: Rather. We're discussing a place to meet

1086
01:46:28.710 --> 01:46:30.889
Evan Corrigan: in person time.

1087
01:46:30.960 --> 01:46:34.240
robertthibodeau: Did you guys make it through the agenda there. Yeah, we did.

1088
01:46:34.360 --> 01:46:41.269
robertthibodeau: Thanks. Sorry I was got delayed, and taking my kid home, I thought i'd make it back at the end of that thing.

1089
01:46:43.230 --> 01:46:45.379
robertthibodeau: Yeah, I mean.

1090
01:46:45.960 --> 01:46:51.009
robertthibodeau: James Beach was great. I mean, that was a nice place to meet. It was very pleasant over there. But.

1091
01:46:51.750 --> 01:46:55.489
Elizabeth C.: hey, Robert, we're we. We talked about Paloma back of Scopa

1092
01:46:56.000 --> 01:47:00.050
Elizabeth C.: in the Speak easy. It hasn't been used in a long time. You got any inroads there.

1093
01:47:00.380 --> 01:47:04.670
robertthibodeau: Yeah, I have. I have. What's his Name's phone number somewhere.

1094
01:47:04.760 --> 01:47:07.060
Elizabeth C.: That' be a great spot quiet.

1095
01:47:08.310 --> 01:47:10.829
Elizabeth C.: You can order food before or after whatever.

1096
01:47:12.350 --> 01:47:14.200
robertthibodeau: Yeah.

1097
01:47:14.410 --> 01:47:18.280
robertthibodeau: So I guess we gotta kind of figure it out in the next 30 days. Right?

1098
01:47:18.310 --> 01:47:19.059
Elizabeth C.: Yeah.

1099
01:47:19.570 --> 01:47:31.829
jim murez: You sort of you sort of want to be ready to to go by by the beginning of March, because you have you. You're like the first Monday of the month, right? So March is the in person.

1100
01:47:32.350 --> 01:47:37.250
jim murez: Yeah, starting in March, March, starting March first. It'll be your March meeting.

1101
01:47:38.450 --> 01:47:45.849
jim murez: Okay? Well, you'll be the first ones in in in the Bnc. To to do it because you always have your meetings on the first Monday

1102
01:47:46.310 --> 01:47:47.950
robertthibodeau: right? Right? Right?

1103
01:47:49.830 --> 01:47:54.379
robertthibodeau: Didn't. We used to use the back room of Osby.

1104
01:47:54.410 --> 01:47:56.929
robertthibodeau: and what is now off. Yes, Yes.

1105
01:47:58.200 --> 01:48:03.250
robertthibodeau: I mean again, can convenient for Allison convenient for Elizabeth.

1106
01:48:03.470 --> 01:48:05.519
robertthibodeau: It's convenient for me.

1107
01:48:06.760 --> 01:48:17.759
jim murez: There's a big parking lot across the street, but they made them, you know, because it's a new restaurant operator. They may not let you, and you have to remember that you got to be able to turn the music down so you can have a nice quiet meeting.

1108
01:48:18.230 --> 01:48:18.900
robertthibodeau: Yeah.

1109
01:48:18.920 --> 01:48:19.650
Elizabeth C.: Oh.

1110
01:48:20.080 --> 01:48:24.849
Elizabeth C.: kill! Oh, wait! That's not our district. I was gonna say Killer Shrimp, Speak easy.

1111
01:48:27.520 --> 01:48:29.890
Alyson Wilson: I just put in the request to

1112
01:48:30.370 --> 01:48:33.150
Alyson Wilson: I'll. You know something they can do.

1113
01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:35.510
Evan Corrigan: Okay.

1114
01:48:35.950 --> 01:48:43.110
jim murez: Yeah, I mean, you know, Monday nights. It's not. It's not the same as other nights of the week, because not all the restaurants are open.

1115
01:48:43.140 --> 01:48:47.590
jim murez: right. But but there are a lot of other restaurants. If it wasn't a Monday night.

1116
01:48:47.990 --> 01:48:51.820
1310****690: I think Paloma is not open on Monday, so I see it calls

1117
01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:58.880
Alyson Wilson: It's not open on Monday. They're open, I think. Tuesday. You just answered our question, Good Googling.

1118
01:48:59.260 --> 01:49:00.050
Hmm!

1119
01:49:00.240 --> 01:49:02.550
1310****690: What about you?

1120
01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:07.439
Alyson Wilson: I love that juice to idea, but it would be outside.

1121
01:49:07.560 --> 01:49:13.429
Alyson Wilson: I like the Ospy idea, I mean, I don't know. Do we know anyone there. Oh, you know where else we've gone, you guys is

1122
01:49:14.680 --> 01:49:22.109
Alyson Wilson: the whaler? No, not the whaler. What's the one over on Jim? Are you on the phone. What's the one that your friend runs down down the beach?

1123
01:49:22.700 --> 01:49:23.849
jim murez: West Beach?

1124
01:49:24.380 --> 01:49:29.950
Alyson Wilson: Yeah, I remember

1125
01:49:30.090 --> 01:49:36.229
Alyson Wilson: we could talk to

1126
01:49:36.260 --> 01:49:37.419
robertthibodeau: to what you think.

1127
01:49:37.740 --> 01:49:44.459
jim murez: Tom, Tom would let you do it. It's kind of indoor outdoor, and you got it. He'd have to be willing to turn his music down outdoors.

1128
01:49:44.600 --> 01:49:52.660
jim murez: Might be a little crazy down there.

1129
01:49:52.890 --> 01:49:57.880
jim murez: It's not they. They've cleaned it up quite a bit. It's. I was down there this last week, and it was really pleasant.

1130
01:49:59.150 --> 01:50:03.320
1310****690: and if you're a senior citizens. You can go get a parking

1131
01:50:03.450 --> 01:50:12.050
jim murez: the road. The rose has the outdoor area, and they do have a heat lamps.

1132
01:50:12.140 --> 01:50:19.710
jim murez: and they can turn the music down separately from outdoors to indoors, so you might be able to to get them to agree to it.

1133
01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:25.120
Evan Corrigan: Okay, let's.

1134
01:50:26.280 --> 01:50:27.689
Evan Corrigan: I'll ask the rose.

1135
01:50:28.070 --> 01:50:29.910
Evan Corrigan: Allison was.

1136
01:50:30.130 --> 01:50:33.849
Alyson Wilson: Lum is closed.

1137
01:50:34.430 --> 01:50:42.860
Alyson Wilson: Scope is a good one. Osp. Is a good one to look into, too. I like that. They have that back room. You guys were talking about. The Winston has a room, but they might be closed.

1138
01:50:43.920 --> 01:50:50.700
jim murez: It's possible that, you know, if they have other stuff going on, that they'd be willing to open up for you to do that. But

1139
01:50:50.830 --> 01:50:54.800
jim murez: you want some place reliable someplace that you can always feel comfortable

1140
01:50:55.660 --> 01:50:56.389
robertthibodeau: right

1141
01:50:57.180 --> 01:50:57.910
robertthibodeau: right.

1142
01:50:58.250 --> 01:51:07.900
jim murez: I I think I think firestone walkers also a good option. They definitely have the space and they have parking. Yeah, they have easy parking. Yup.

1143
01:51:08.780 --> 01:51:11.239
robertthibodeau: I just don't have a connection there. But yeah.

1144
01:51:11.370 --> 01:51:18.889
robertthibodeau: okay. So let's pass around to emails, and we'll all Adam add on Firestone and David Walker.

1145
01:51:19.470 --> 01:51:21.370
jim murez: They're both listed on their website.

1146
01:51:21.390 --> 01:51:24.039
jim murez: and and I helped get them their permits. Originally

1147
01:51:24.130 --> 01:51:28.220
jim murez: I was the case person for for them in Lupex. So yeah, we have a connection.

1148
01:51:28.390 --> 01:51:29.190
robertthibodeau: Okay.

1149
01:51:29.280 --> 01:51:34.349
jim murez: But I think they have. They have people on site that are very friendly and cooperative to the neighborhood.

1150
01:51:34.440 --> 01:51:37.349
robertthibodeau: I've only been in there like, I think, once. So

1151
01:51:37.470 --> 01:51:39.380
robertthibodeau: I don't remember the layout that well

1152
01:51:39.850 --> 01:51:42.230
Evan Corrigan: got a new big patio on side.

1153
01:51:42.260 --> 01:51:42.940
Yeah.

1154
01:51:44.030 --> 01:51:44.760
robertthibodeau: yeah.

1155
01:51:45.760 --> 01:51:46.800
robertthibodeau: okay.

1156
01:51:47.920 --> 01:51:50.620
robertthibodeau: Do we call this one?

1157
01:51:51.200 --> 01:51:54.519
jim murez: So in the the brig has that huge outdoor patio.

1158
01:51:57.680 --> 01:52:00.849
Elizabeth C.: David would definitely help us.

1159
01:52:01.070 --> 01:52:01.840
jim murez: Yeah.

1160
01:52:05.080 --> 01:52:08.430
jim murez: I mean, these are things that you have to confirm. But i'm sure that

1161
01:52:09.860 --> 01:52:17.620
jim murez: you know I I If that's where you want to do. I don't know how they they their food. I mean, if you want to go there and have dinner at the same time, I don't know if their food is that good. But

1162
01:52:18.150 --> 01:52:20.709
jim murez: they're not really a restaurant. They usually have food trucks

1163
01:52:22.220 --> 01:52:22.920
robertthibodeau: right

1164
01:52:22.960 --> 01:52:23.780
robertthibodeau: right?

1165
01:52:25.510 --> 01:52:28.820
robertthibodeau: Well luck a bon. Yeah, they've got some areas

1166
01:52:29.560 --> 01:52:35.360
jim murez: That' be super convenient for me.

1167
01:52:38.060 --> 01:52:45.020
jim murez: The penmark definitely has outdoor space, and that's a wonderful location, real, easy, free parking.

1168
01:52:45.100 --> 01:52:46.249
Evan Corrigan: Let's do that

1169
01:52:46.880 --> 01:52:47.670
Evan Corrigan: perfect

1170
01:52:48.190 --> 01:52:59.119
robertthibodeau: around the quarter from your house. All right, let's let's follow up. I mean, obviously, we have to. We have to talk to you.

1171
01:52:59.370 --> 01:53:00.790
robertthibodeau: The managers.

1172
01:53:02.570 --> 01:53:03.629
Okay.

1173
01:53:03.800 --> 01:53:05.240
robertthibodeau: all good ideas. So

1174
01:53:06.400 --> 01:53:07.290
Evan Corrigan: okay.

1175
01:53:08.300 --> 01:53:10.450
robertthibodeau: How? We? Yeah.

1176
01:53:11.040 --> 01:53:15.290
robertthibodeau: Yeah, I only have notes up to item

1177
01:53:16.150 --> 01:53:19.589
robertthibodeau: 8, because I stepped out on Item 9, just as a heads up.

1178
01:53:20.070 --> 01:53:22.309
Evan Corrigan: We? You punted Item 9.

1179
01:53:22.330 --> 01:53:24.510
Evan Corrigan: I I can send you these all fine.

1180
01:53:24.640 --> 01:53:31.480
robertthibodeau: Okay, just giving you heads up. You might on 9. You might want to jot down your notes. Now I have them there.

1181
01:53:31.540 --> 01:53:32.269
robertthibodeau: Okay.

1182
01:53:33.090 --> 01:53:36.090
Evan Corrigan: Okay. So adjourned at 8, 45.

1183
01:53:38.790 --> 01:53:43.679
robertthibodeau: Sorry I was like coming back, and I will see you all next month. I'll talk to you in between.

1184
01:53:43.910 --> 01:53:44.639
Evan Corrigan: Okay.

1185
01:53:44.780 --> 01:53:47.729
Selena Inouye: everybody take care, bye.

1186
01:53:48.180 --> 01:53:49.400
jim murez: bye, bye.