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jim murez: I'm great Brian promoting you

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jim murez: you there!

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Michael Jensen: Hey, Jenny? Hi! How are you?

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Michael Jensen: Not too bad? Sorry I had to uninstall and reinstall zoom

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jim murez: Yeah, that happens. They, you know I've been having a lot of problems with my my video.

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jim murez: It starts flickering, and it's ever since I updated it, and they forced me to update it. But there's nothing I can do about it so

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Michael Jensen: well. I was stuck in like 4 versions back, and every time I tried to update it. It said error

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Michael Jensen: updating. And so

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I just removed it and reinforced it.

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jim murez: Yeah, they're They're going through hard times, I suspect, but I don't know.

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jim murez: Let me make you host.

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jim murez: As soon as I do that i'll wait. Let me do one other thing first, so you don't have to deal with it.

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Michael Jensen: Okay.

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jim murez: i'll set up the

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jim murez: other stuff that having that

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jim murez: what is captioning

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jim murez: English

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jim murez: and share screen anybody that needs to share it.

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jim murez: Okay, now

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jim murez: make you. Host.

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jim murez: do. You want me to become a co-host?

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Michael Jensen: I mean, if you're going to stick around the whole meeting, you can. But otherwise it's not necessary. It's only that I can watch to see if anybody else comes in.

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Michael Jensen: Oh, yeah, that's fine, then.

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jim murez: But i'm not sure. I think I think what I have to do is I have to make you host.

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jim murez: and then

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jim murez: I you can make me co-host. I don't think. Wait, let me just see. Yeah, I can't. All I can do is reclaim. Mostly

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jim murez: You look like you either got out of the shower or you slipped your hair down.

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Michael Jensen: I just showered today. So maybe that's it. There you go.

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jim murez: So how are other things going.

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Michael Jensen: you know? Not too bad.

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Michael Jensen: Just working like a dog.

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jim murez: Yeah.

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Michael Jensen: And I missed the farmers market, you know, Last week i'm gonna see if I can remember to go. I have to.

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Michael Jensen: The My issue is.

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Michael Jensen: I have to remember, to go before work blows up.

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Michael Jensen: Yeah, As soon as that happens.

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Michael Jensen: my day is just shot. I hear you.

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Michael Jensen: It's like answering one thing at one emergency after the next.

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Michael Jensen: All right, I see Lauren

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Michael Jensen: promoting her.

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Michael Jensen: Hey, Lauren.

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lauren siegel: hey? How are we

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Michael Jensen: Not too bad? How you doing

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lauren siegel: doing good?

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jim murez: Hi, Lauren!

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lauren siegel: Hi, Jim!

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lauren siegel: Nice to see you.

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jim murez: you as well.

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So let me know.

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lauren siegel: So it looks like we have a lot of people, a lot of things on our agenda today.

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Michael Jensen: Yeah, we we do. But I think we'll be okay. I mean, if if it goes too long. Both the the thing that's at the end.

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Michael Jensen: Well, i'll. I'll discuss it with it. But but

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Michael Jensen: we're not necessarily going to get into the

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Michael Jensen: I'll fresco thing that's at the end. I just want to put that on everyone's radar.

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Michael Jensen: Yes, there is the life card tower as well.

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lauren siegel: So how long after the elections happen? Do we get a new lupit group? How does that whole whole timing thing work

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jim murez: in March, take office in July, and then and then the month after they take the

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jim murez: they take. So if they take office in July, August would be when they August meeting right. They can open nominations

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jim murez: in.

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jim murez: do they, could they? I don't think they can open nominations until

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jim murez: i'm just thinking about this. Can the new.

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Michael Jensen: the new? No, but the new nomination. So July

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Michael Jensen: they would be seated at the first meeting in July, right?

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jim murez: So the new board officers would be seated at the at the July meeting right, and at that meeting you could open up nominations for the committee to the applications, and that's how we always do it. The following month. The Board then selects who the officers of loop pack are.

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lauren siegel: So this will be done at the end of July.

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Michael Jensen: Until then the committee is, is still

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Michael Jensen: like. What will happen is there might be meetings with a new chair in the old committee

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lauren siegel: got it? Okay.

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jim murez: Is there somebody running for Lupeck other than you?

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lauren siegel: Yes, there's 2.

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Michael Jensen: No, I think there's only one.

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lauren siegel: Well, you and somebody.

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Michael Jensen: Oh, yes, yeah. One other person.

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Michael Jensen: Alright, Don J.

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Michael Jensen: I'm. Keeping an eye on the attendees list.

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lauren siegel: Yeah, me, too.

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lauren siegel: I don't recognize any of these people.

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jim murez: Are you promoting him.

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Michael Jensen: Sure, I am. Okay.

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jim murez: Maybe Lauren would be a better co-host.

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Jeff Martin: Hello.

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Michael Jensen: Hey, Jeff!

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Jeff Martin: Hey, how's Everyone doing

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lauren siegel: We missed you in our last meeting? Yeah, so I wasn't that it it'll make the last one what's happening your your video is making is giving me a

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jim murez: I know it's so bizarre. That's what i'm talking about

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jim murez: all right. Well, I'm still here. Okay.

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jim murez: Ever since I upgraded it's been doing that.

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jim murez: So that's my notification to start this meeting

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jim murez: for those of you that don't know Neighbors Night is tonight at Waterfront Cafe

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Jeff Martin: Neighbors Night.

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jim murez: Yeah. They the the the restaurant up on ocean front walk started the thing where they have a.

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jim murez: They give out the the Tacos that they normally sell. They give them out to anybody that has a 902, 9, one or 900 202

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Jeff Martin: patient on them. Oh, that's cool. Yeah.

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jim murez: from 6 to 90'clock

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jim murez: that they do it once a month or yeah, yeah, it's kind of a funny event.

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Jeff Martin: That's cool.

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Michael Jensen: And it's is it always this Thursday?

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jim murez: You know, I used to always be on Wednesdays and all of a sudden it ended up tonight. I didn't realize it until somebody let me know. Earlier in the day

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jim murez: it was sort of like. Oh, wait a minute. I have a meeting today.

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jim murez: Have to start having the Neighborhood Council meetings there.

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jim murez: but, like 10 committees, and

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jim murez: every single one of them has to be started.

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Michael Jensen: we're just waiting on one more.

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jim murez: you know. You do have an attendee with a hand up.

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Michael Jensen: Scott, we haven't started the meeting. Are you an audience member or an applicant.

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jim murez: You gotta tell him to unmute.

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Michael Jensen: Scott. Yes.

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Michael Jensen: you raised your hand. What can I do for you?

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Scott Mayers: I just wanted to know if i'm being seen. If i'm on

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Michael Jensen: you are i'm just we haven't started the meeting yet, so i'm just going to lower your hand. I see your hand as well, and I will call on you when we get to your case.

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Scott Mayers: Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: just looking for one more. Let me

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lauren siegel: see here.

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lauren siegel: I don't know where Corinne is

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Michael Jensen: going through the list and looking

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lauren siegel: no one here.

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Michael Jensen: Well, I did here. Matt, Barry and

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Michael Jensen: Chris

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Michael Jensen: said they would

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Michael Jensen: be here.

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Michael Jensen: there he is.

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Michael Jensen: Got one

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Michael Jensen: all right. Well, we have a quorum, so i'm gonna call the meeting to order here

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Michael Jensen: as soon as he gets in.

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jim murez: So at this point, just so. I know i'll watch the list for you. You're missing Matt and Barry

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Michael Jensen: Matt Here, I believe we're missing, Chris.

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lauren siegel: and I think, Chris just said he's here.

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Michael Jensen: Okay. Now, where did I?

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jim murez: Just maybe he's going by a different name on this.

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lauren siegel: maybe raise his hand.

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jim murez: Chris, if you're in the audience. Can you raise your seat?

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lauren siegel: Sorry it was Corin that said. She's here.

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jim murez: Oh, you removed me as co-host you know that

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Michael Jensen: I I didn't do that, I I promise I didn't do that on purpose.

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Co-host.

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Michael Jensen: All right. Well, i'm going to call the meeting to order

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Michael Jensen: 7 to 5 Pm.

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Michael Jensen: I'll just go through the roll Call

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Karen.

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Michael Jensen: Very.

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Michael Jensen: So far. No, very.

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Michael Jensen: Matthew.

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Matthew Royce: There.

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Michael Jensen: Marnish.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah.

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Michael Jensen: Chris, he's not on yet. Right?

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Michael Jensen: I'm here. And Jeff here.

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Michael Jensen: Okay.

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Michael Jensen: moving on Number 4. So the only announcement I have is I wanted to introduce Jeff. Cal. So i'm going to promote Jeff to panelists.

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Michael Jensen: Jack is the new CD 11 planning deputy.

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Michael Jensen: Jeff? Can you hear me.

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Jeff Khau: hey? Everyone?

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Yeah.

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Jeff Khau: I can hear you guys.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, great.

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Jeff Khau: Yes, I can just give an introduction, and how you know playing deputy for Tracy Park at the 11 district.

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Jeff Khau: I want to say that. Well, i'm probably gonna get in trouble for saying this, but to be and see is my favorite neighborhood council out of, like the 100 neighbor of councils out there.

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Jeff Khau: the reason being that when I first started as planner. I did a lot of Venice projects, and

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Jeff Khau: the V. And C. Was the first

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Neighborhood council that I really interact with.

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Jeff Khau: and you know what they say. You know you never forget your first, and so you guys will always have a soft spot in my heart.

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Jeff Khau: I just wanted to. I just wanted to. Also. Thank you, guys, for the effort that you guys put in. Every meeting

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Jeff Khau: being on this board is often a thankless job, and the preparation that goes to each item requires a successful amount of time, and it's not easy doing this well balanced in life. And so I just want to say how great I am for you all being here today.

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Jeff Khau: and a big shout out to all the members in the public, listening in as well. There are way fun things to do on a Thursday night, and yet you're all here with us virtually, which means that you care about the future of Venice. And so I just want to commend you for your unwavering engagement with the Venice community.

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Jeff Khau: And yeah, with that i'll hand it back to it. Michael

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Michael Jensen: Thanks, Jeff, and thank you for carving out some time for us. I hope that you're a frequent face at these meetings, or at least as often as your schedule permits.

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Michael Jensen: We look forward to working with with your office to sort of implement, or at least design changes coming up for our local coastal program and community plan.

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Michael Jensen: So i'm hoping we can have a really productive relationship.

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lauren siegel: I will. Yes. Is it possible to ask questions of Jeff now, or do we need to wait.

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Michael Jensen: I believe we can probably ask a couple of questions, Jim, that doesn't require me to do a round of public comment, does it?

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Michael Jensen: It? Would.

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Michael Jensen: Yup, Jeff, how long do you want to stick around?

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Jeff Khau: I can stick around for like you know how 30 min, 30 min. Alright. Well, then, I will do a a quick, we'll do

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Michael Jensen: forward questions, and then i'll also open it up to the

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Michael Jensen: to the public to do

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Michael Jensen: just a quick question, Section. So

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Michael Jensen: 4 members. Please raise your hand, and I want to do this just one at a time. And just please make it brief.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, thanks.

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Michael Jensen: Go ahead, Lauren.

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lauren siegel: Well, i'm just curious what the priorities are for CD. 11, with our new Council member.

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lauren siegel: Specifically, Venice specifically coastal issues. And what are her priorities? How does she see working with us closely?

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lauren siegel: What can we expect, You know, in the next year, 2 years from her office?

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Jeff Khau: Right? Well. I can only speak on to land use issues definitely. Cleaning up the homeless encampments is her number one priority, because that is one thing that she led

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Jeff Khau: in her in our campaign is, you know, being able to utilize city tools and and utilize the mayor's office to really help clean up the homeless issue, and her second priority is really more affordable housing where it's appropriate.

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Jeff Khau: We're finding out we're finding new sites in the district, especially in Venice, along Lincoln, Boulevard, and and other places that may be appropriate for affordable housing. And so.

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Jeff Khau: you know, we're trying to really look into activating these sites.

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Jeff Khau: and i'm looking into having greater discussion and and just laying out our all our options on the table to make sure that we're not missing anything.

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Jeff Khau: and Councilwoman Park is really big on projects.

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Jeff Khau: So we're we're. We're

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Jeff Khau: looking at different projects, like the Venice, like our tower, you know, and preserving that, and looking into how we can

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Jeff Khau: look, Take a new look at the Venice meeting project, maybe, and see. You know what

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Jeff Khau: what we can do with it. I know that. And she was against it during her campaign, and she's she's. Still, you know very much trying to

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Jeff Khau: figure out what the best way to approach that is, that is, with the Coastal Commission.

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Jeff Khau: And so

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Jeff Khau: Yeah.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Hmm.

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Michael Jensen: Any other Board

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Michael Jensen: questions.

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Michael Jensen: This won't be our only opportunity. So, and i'll I'll I'm: happy to share Jeff's email with everyone.

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Michael Jensen: If there's any public comment. I want to leave public comment to. Well.

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Michael Jensen: please raise your hand now, and based on that, I'll do a just a

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Robin Murez: Hi. Can you guys hear me?

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Robin Murez: Jeff. Hi. And thank you. I first met Jeff right at Tracy, swearing in, and immediately accosted him with our pressing issue of the Venice Lifeguard Station Tower

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Robin Murez: and I will ask one more question. I think I I copied you on. I sent over to Lupeck to this committee information about the

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Robin Murez: I don't know if it's wise for us to ask that it be invalidated. But that's something that I think will be discussed here. So maybe it's something. If you have thoughts on it, you could. It's definitely an erroneous that based on their runners information, and seems crazy to leave it out there. But i'm curious to know if you have thoughts on that.

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Michael Jensen: Thanks, Robin.

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Jeff Khau: I I personally don't think that it. It really matters too much to resend that at the minimum Waiver, because the county has agreed that they won't take any action unless they have the cities buy in, you know, because we're we're hand in hand with the Venice, like our tower, because we have this agreement

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Jeff Khau: where the county maintains the beach, and you utilize our facilities. And so they're not going to go ahead and and demolish it without without us, that giving them a full thumbs up on it, and so I wouldn't be too worried about the diminished waiver. Yes, it is still kind of loading out there, but you know, in terms of actually utilizing it for the demolition.

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Jeff Khau: We we don't believe that that's gonna happen without us giving the green light

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Jeff Khau: and and Rob and I did get the email from Carol Baker in response to your to the B. And C letter, and we are actually meeting with her tomorrow to discuss that. So just want to let you know that.

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David: Yes. Hello. Can you hear me?

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David: Jack, I had a question about the permanent Al fresco dining ordinance.

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Jeff Khau: Well, I don't think they would be very happy about that. And we're talking with city planning. Right now.

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Jeff Khau: I actually have a meeting with the next Tuesday about the fresco ordinance to figure out what how to reconcile coastalack issues with with the alfresco ordinance.

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Jeff Khau: We understand that in the past they've taken a strong position in protecting, parking in the coast of zone because of access issues, and we don't see them wavering away from that.

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Jeff Khau: we're definitely going to have to figure out how to, you know, harmonize the coast, select with with the offresco ordinance.

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Jeff Khau: but in terms of Tracy's position on it, she's she's definitely trying to make the permanent fresco ordinance much more business friendly by removing certain requirements for businesses to get another Cuv, or to have to go through an additional permitting process.

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Jeff Khau: You know she she views that as kind of overly burdens, and especially for for restaurants that are struggling today. And so oh.

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Jeff Khau: there's a lot of work with the offresco ordinance. It hasn't even gone to Cpc. Yet any. And so it's going to go to Cpc. It's going to go to Plum and then back to Council, and so there's plenty of opportunities for us to take a whack at the ping out of, you know, and and get this to get this to come out right.

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Jeff Khau: And so yeah, we're looking forward to. I'm speaking with planning next week about that

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Michael Jensen: Thank you, David. Let me just a little talking.

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Sean Obrien: Yeah. Hi! Thanks for attending the meeting. Big fan of Tracy Park. I've been supporting her for almost 2 years, looking forward to working with you in her office

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Sean Obrien: and getting true representation for Venice

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Sean Obrien: about the link, a corridor, and all the changes that are happening to that we got some, Really.

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Sean Obrien: Yeah, Well, I have something I I I wish to keep my time.

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Sean Obrien: I'm I I gave. I was giving a slight background as to what i'm going into, and I think we've spoken about this before

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Sean Obrien: we Anyways, i'm a little bit off track. Please restart my time. Thank you.

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Sean Obrien: Okay. So with the link of corridor, and I heard that you just mentioned that You're looking for opportunities for low income housing

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Sean Obrien: with all the new development that is pending that is already been approved. We're fast approaching about 10% low income, homeless housing in Venice.

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Sean Obrien: So I truly hope that you seek other areas in CD. 11.

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Sean Obrien: We're already a a saturated wet sponge. We can't pick up any more.

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Sean Obrien: So when you, when you look for sites, and if you're looking through Pacific urbanisms recommendations, I truly hope you don't level the playing field and start over from now. You realize how much we've already done in the past, instead of dumping them more here

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Sean Obrien: with. Thank you, Shawn.

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Sean Obrien: You didn't give me my time. You cut me off about 30 s.

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Michael Jensen: Shawn. I restarted the clock.

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Sean Obrien: That was not a minute. Come on, brother.

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Sean Obrien: i'm. You've interrupted me, and I lose my train of thought, you know, if you.

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Sean Obrien: you know Robert had more time, I don't want to like, go tick for that, because I hate when people do that now we're wasting more time. But anyways I I I can contact him offline. But but but please don't interrupt people in the middle of what they're talking about.

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Jeff Khau: Yeah, Shawn, To your point. I I I definitely have driven along Lincoln during during rush hour, and it's not fun. And so definitely. We're trying to space development, you know, in a way that is distributed so that we don't over have over impact on certain areas of and

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Jeff Khau: and under, you know, under serve other areas. So I I feel you on that.

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barrycassilly: Yeah. I just had a quick question. Hey, Jeff, how's it going

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barrycassilly: I took a look at you know. I'm sure I I I took a look at his data and

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barrycassilly: it's. It looks like in CD 11 currently for low income and or homeless service facilities. There are 33 in Venice.

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barrycassilly: and 3 in Del Rey 0 in the Palisades 0 in Brentwood 0 in that portion of West La that's in CD. 11 0 and marvous to 0 in palms.

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barrycassilly: So I was wondering if, when we're looking for new sites in CD. 11 for low-income housing

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barrycassilly: is there going to be any consideration given to the imbalance between the rest of CD. 11 and Venice, or are we starting from 0?

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Jeff Khau: We're definitely gonna look at the balance through the different neighborhoods, because that has come up. You know there's a huge sentiment that

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Jeff Khau: that Venice gets all this attention that we're we're focusing too much on Venice, and that we should focus elsewhere. And so to this bill that myth, we're definitely going to pay a lot of attention to the other community areas. But that means that they're going to be looked at as potential sites for affordable housing and for a permanent support of housing as well. And so we want to kind of balance that

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Jeff Khau: that the the attention given to all the communities and and really speak to that concern, that you have very.

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barrycassilly: Thank you very much.

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jim murez: So my question Jeff is is sort of of back to the Al fresco question.

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jim murez: I'm concerned that there are many different types of commercial businesses throughout our community.

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jim murez: and that restaurants are just one community, 1 one community serving a commercial use, and that if if a restaurant can utilize the underlying rights that they have

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jim murez: as as having dedicated their land originally back, when the track map was created to being used as a highway dedication, and the city is now going to allow them to operate a restaurant.

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jim murez: Is that same opportunity going to exist for the dress shop, or for the newsstand, or for the

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jim murez: PET store, or the whoever wants to operate out in the you know, have all of this additional open space or parking consideration the same as a restaurant would.

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Jeff Khau: No, I totally understand where it's coming from. Because, yeah, the all for Us coordinates kind of really popped out during during the pandemic, as you know, and it was really a carve out for restaurants because they were, you know they were seen as struggling during that time.

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Jeff Khau: and it was a city-wide move. And so this

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Jeff Khau: the it's also a city white move, and it's not really something that you you know we can propose for our district, or we can kind of carve out for our district is something that's happening citywide. And so we can look into kind of different relief

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Jeff Khau: for other types of businesses that may be struggling as well. I know that rest. I know that other businesses struggle during the pandemic, and so, if you have any ideas, we're happy to consider them, and then

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Jeff Khau: and throw in emotion and see where it goes. But yeah, you know, until this point I hadn't I haven't heard. You know, the need for special sort of carve outs for other sorts of commercial businesses, but that definitely seems like a good idea, and and Tracy is all about economic development. So you know, maybe we can talk offline and see what the possibilities are.

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jim murez: going to be over very soon at all levels of government. And once that occurs, we're not talking about having outdoor dining as an emergency anymore. Now it's a a convenience and a luxury, and and that same kind of convenience and luxury, it seems to me, should be available to all

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jim murez: business operators throughout the entire city. But if that again that comes back to a level of complication that you know, I just hope somebody in downtown is considering.

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Jeff Khau: Yeah, thanks, Jim.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: And you'll be the last. I think a lot of my my questions were pretty much answered about the homeless people. So on the Thank you. Alright Well, Jeff, thank you very much for your time.

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Michael Jensen: and we hope to see you soon, and I will put your if that's all right. Put your email address on our page just as a public reference.

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Jeff Khau: That's good, right? Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: approval of minutes from January 20 sixth. May I have a motion? I may second, please.

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Michael Jensen: all right, Thank you. Number 6 declaration of conflicts of interest and or or exparte communications.

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barrycassilly: yeah, I I have one. This is very. I had communications with the

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Michael Jensen: I've had. I've spoken to the architect for 1, 3, 3, 8 electric. I've also spoken to Shawn O'brien regarding the

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Michael Jensen: case assignments so or sorry Number 7 general public comment for items that are not on the agenda members. The public, If you have a

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jim murez: Do you want me to run a timer and share my screen?

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Michael Jensen: Okay, Oliver. I'm gonna call on you and let me just get this Timer going. So after Gabriel Smith, you're not going to call on anyone else.

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Oliver Kremer: Yes, hello!

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Oliver Kremer: Right? Okay. There's the timer. Very. I I just wanted to introduce myself.

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Oliver Kremer: I and my wife, Carly

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Oliver Kremer: just moved to Venice about 4 weeks ago, and we are now homeowners here, and and just thrilled to be here in the neighborhood, and I am just trying to get involved in the community and learn about what's going on. And I just wanted to say hi and to introduce myself.

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Oliver Kremer: So it's a nice to meet you all.

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Oliver Kremer: and that's all I got. I'll give 30 s back.

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Gabriel Smith: Hi! There, everybody! I just wanted to ask about the Council's recent approval of the business license that was permitted for the

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Gabriel Smith: now is going to be a daycare center at the previously new live Christian church. It's. It just struck me as on, because this is gonna be the only storefront business on this stretch of road. There are no other for profit businesses, everything else that Isn't residential is either a school

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Gabriel Smith: for 68 children to be picked up and dropped off every single day here at this location, and there's only one there's only one lane on Wallgrove.

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Gabriel Smith: It's already impacted with traffic. So anything that can be done to alleviate the traffic should strongly be considered. I would love if the Council would reconsider this approval.

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Michael Jensen: Thank you, Gabriel, for your just notification. That case will be going on to this month

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Michael Jensen: So you'll notice I did the case assignments this time rather than going through them, just because there were so many I my fault. We had a bit of a backlog, so if you have any questions committee members, please just reach out to me. I did want to talk about. I wanted to get volunteers for 5 or 3 East Brooks.

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Michael Jensen: This is a historic cultural monument nomination for the new Bethel Baptist Church.

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Michael Jensen: that she was interested, if someone else would want to work with her or

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Michael Jensen: 2 others. I'm all entertain any volunteers

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Michael Jensen: you can, I? We won't necessarily do it now. You can reach out to me afterwards, but I just want to put that out there for everyone.

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Michael Jensen: And if you have any questions about the staff assignments

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Michael Jensen: just kidding up outside the meeting.

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Michael Jensen: all right. So our consent Calendar. We have just one case. This is, in addition to a an existing single family dwelling, converting a garage to a junior 80, you and adding a second story to it.

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Michael Jensen: I don't believe this was assigned to staff, if it was, please correct me; but if there's any objection, either on the committee or in the audience to

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Michael Jensen: approving or recommending approvals. De minimis. Please raise your hand.

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Michael Jensen: otherwise i'll. I'll give it about

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Michael Jensen: 15 s here.

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Michael Jensen: and just out of curiosity when you see my shared screen. Is it just a word document right now?

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Michael Jensen: Yeah.

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jim murez: And now you see a timer on top of the on top of it. Yeah, okay, cool.

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Michael Jensen: That's just what I wanted to.

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Michael Jensen: all right, not seeing any hands. So this will go on to the board is to minimus. So the first case we have is now we're on to Number 10. First case is 1338, electric.

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Michael Jensen: I see Bushra I will.

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Michael Jensen: and you

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Michael Jensen: who's the other person. Is it, Eddie?

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Michael Jensen: I see your hand. I'll call you when we have public comment.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: It's a neighbor next door.

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Michael Jensen: Eddie.

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Michael Jensen: is that? Or

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Bushra: Yes, I have Edd, the architect, and the client, Antony

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Michael Jensen: Anthony got it.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, so I which one of you wants to either screen share or present.

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Bushra: I can share my screen.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, let me stop mine.

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Michael Jensen: And

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Bushra: okay. Do you see my bluebeing just making sure I have the white screen shared?

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Bushra: Okay, so just to recap from last meeting

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Bushra: for this project. This is located on Electric Avenue.

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Bushra: and it's Log 15 and zoning as it. The Zoning is Rd. 1.5, and so what we are proposing for this project is the a partial demolition on the existing structure, minimal side landscaping, and we are adding 2 stories above the current structure.

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Bushra: And so and

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Bushra: for the entitlement we we spoke with Ira from planning department and under geographical referral, for we got Stpa, which is, we are asking for maximum, 27 feet of flat roof instead of 25 and 26 feet still falls under additional alamo

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Bushra: 20. So that's why we're asking for 27 feet. And for Za we are asking for 3 foot setbacks for all around the site.

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Bushra: because the current, the current plan i'll just show you here

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Bushra: like this we have the smallest flight. The log site is 931 square feet, and if you just go by what is the allowable? Sit back. We can see that the front and backs at your setback is 15 on the site, so that would give us roughly 23 square feet for buildable

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Bushra: unit. So that's why we Are you trying to ask for adjustment? That would give us 3 feet all around the

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Bushra: and the property. And just to show you guys, the our plan. So for the first floor we have a a car port, and then 2 bedroom, one bathroom. The stair goes up to the second floor. We have another master bedroom, a closet.

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Bushra: and a shower bath, and then the ster. It goes up to the third floor, where we have the living kitchen, and then we have that goes up to the rooftop. And so part of our entitlement is also asking for the balcony, which obviously would be

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Bushra: overhanging the side setbacks, and for the

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Bushra: overall building height we are proposing a 27 feet of over building. Height. But there were some questions that how? What is the exact spot and elevation. So what I have here is the topographic survey. The center line of the street is at 11.14,

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Bushra: and the existing force for finishes at 13.8, 5 feet. But since we would like to build 27 feet over a building high, we are demolishing the first floor and keeping 50 of the existing wall.

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Bushra: And obviously these stairs will be gone. And

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Bushra: so this was just a clear, some confusion on the total survey.

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Bushra: and if in our zoning and this administration adjustment, there are 2 things we have checked off. It just meant for the your setbacks and the adjustment for the height of the building.

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Bushra: and then, in our application we did check off that this unit will be occupied by the owner.

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Bushra: and Anthony can speak up on. On that regards.

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Bushra: and for other entitlement we have, say, Z e a. A, which is 12.28, and that's asking for the

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Bushra: sit back, because obviously we it. It's not the really. We can't use the 15 front set back, and rare sites of, because the we have the smallest lot in the a whole area

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Bushra: and maximum 27 feet fall under Sdp. And Stpa is the same thing as the other one, which is pretty much saying that the reason why we are building 3 story is the owner.

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Bushra: I need to live there, and not to make it a livable space. We have to go to a 3 foot. Sorry 3 story, and then we had an 80. But then we decided to remove it, because we're trying to respect the privacy of neighborhood, and next to us in 1336. So that's out of our application.

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Bushra: and that's all I have. I just believe it. Oh, if you guys any question you can ask me now.

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Bushra: This is our elevation.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I like to ask you a question on the on the east side. What will be the distance between your building and the neighbors as well. They're like up 30 feet high, I believe, with the slow proof.

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Bushra: Oh, is there a separation there?

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Bushra: So on this side is 1,336, and the wall is the existing wall is on setting the property line

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Bushra: over here. This is how much space I have here.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: and so I have 3 story on my left side, 3 story behind, real not, and 2 story next to me on this side the 3. Yeah, the the lot 15. What would be the distance? I I was just trying to figure out how close your building property line. I see

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Bushra: the existing wall is 1.2 feet away, the property line.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: So those are all fire rated walls there, even at the 3 feet here.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: and the

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I wonder if the neighbors is present as well? Because you always questioning before we get into comments here, can we just? I'd like any. Do you have anything to add.

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Eddie Osuch NEO: I

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Eddie Osuch NEO: I I think bush was covered a lot of it.

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Eddie Osuch NEO: The only thing is for to answer Manushi's question. We are for the second and third floor, as we

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Eddie Osuch NEO: will, will be 3 feet away from that property line as well.

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Eddie Osuch NEO: But I think she's already covered most of it.

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Michael Jensen: Sorry.

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Michael Jensen: Okay. So, Anthony, I think you should be able to speak so. If you have anything you add, maybe you want to.

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Anthony: Yeah, I I I think I think I a as there's been some confusion on my on my intent on the property.

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Anthony: you know I I I grew up in the midwest, and and and and I grew up watching our we're in a of a films, and for some reason that a speech has always always been in my head.

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Anthony: and the first place I I visited

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Anthony: ever in California was to of the the the the of the beach, and I've lived in Arizona for a a long time, and I've I've come out pretty much every year has been time there.

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Anthony: I finally, I I I I worked enough in in my business, too.

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Anthony: save and and and and expand on my my business, and I really want to make

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Anthony: the Venice of my on my on my home.

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Anthony: And when I, when I met on my on my neighbor when I when I first moved there back in June.

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Anthony: We talked about his life there and and everything, and he moved there, and he moved there about 19 S. 74, I believe, and and it was the same. The situation is me here. This is low 1 one story house that he they bought there any, any, any any raise it to to the current size now.

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Anthony: and raises his. His kids are in, and everything, and that's kind of what

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Anthony: i'm i'm. I'm looking to to make this place my my, my, my my home, i'm i'm a surrounded by

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Anthony: 2 story and 3 3 homes, and then and a and I just want the same opportunity as a as as as as a as everybody else, to to to to build my dream home like on Venice

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Anthony: in in in in the and and be able to host my parents there, and and my for for friends and family, and everybody else, and right now it literally is a 660 square foot house, with with no parking makes it a makes it really hard hard place to to live off

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Anthony: for life, so i'm as I' i'll i'll i'll i'll i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm i'm, i'm i'm i'm i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm i'm i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm i'm i'm, i'm i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm i'm i'm i'm I

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Michael Jensen: hey tan thing

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Michael Jensen: so i'm going to open it up to public comment. I have a question about procedure.

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barrycassilly: So do we do. Public comment before, like the Board asks questions

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barrycassilly: for clarification. Do you have clarification questions. I do. Yes. Then you might ask those. Okay. They're for

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barrycassilly: Bushra if there were 2 requests last last meeting.

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barrycassilly: One was, I think, from Lauren. Lauren had requested

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barrycassilly: that whatever survey you were showing showing us included

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barrycassilly: the adjoining properties, so we could see their proximity

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barrycassilly: to

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the lot lines.

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barrycassilly: I don't see that on the survey.

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corinne Baginski: That was my request, by the way.

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barrycassilly: Well, I was looking for I was personally looking for the the border with

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barrycassilly: 1336. But either way I mean. The the reason I think everybody is wondering is because

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barrycassilly: I visited the site, and it looks like

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barrycassilly: the balconies from the lot behind you, which is showing us lot. 15 on the survey.

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barrycassilly: Looks like those balconies are on the property line.

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barrycassilly: but I can't tell because i'm looking over your building.

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barrycassilly: I mean, that's we're looking at

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barrycassilly: a plot map here. That's not a survey, but and then the the one the building on the other side, the other 3 story building 1336.

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barrycassilly: It looks like it's on the property line going up about 20 feet. But you know, like i'm looking at stuff from the street. I don't really know where the property line is.

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Bushra: Well, yeah, this is what I got from the site survey. But yeah, the existing wall

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Bushra: is extended to the other neighbor by 2 inches. That's what I have.

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Bushra: No, I was asking about their wall.

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Bushra: Oh, I

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I measured the with the owner, and it seems like it was a continuously about 11 inches or so, going 9 from

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Point 9. Yeah, all the way through.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, you measured it as point 9. But what did you use? It shows on this. I don't know what they said. 1 9 here, but I actually had this 7 inches. It was continuous from their their property line, and then 3 inches in it was their building. So

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: it but that measurement continued all the way through to the end. It didn't show that it was decreased to the end. So we can we see how it Also, you think it goes straight?

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Michael Jensen: Hold on when we're talking about which

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Michael Jensen: which property I was asking about 1,336. That's the one we're talking about. Is okay point 9 consistently all the way back.

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Michael Jensen: and that is both confirmed by the surveyor.

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Michael Jensen: No. And

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Michael Jensen: your visual measurement.

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barrycassilly: Yeah. Visual measurements, but not on survey. I don't know Well, it shows on the Survey Point 9 is fine. It's really hard to tell on in the field, because there's a lot of vegetation, so that's like 10 or 11 inches in between.

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barrycassilly: The other thing we wanted was photographs, better photographs of not just the the the site, the proposed of the purpose project, but of the cause. There's all these questions about the surrounding buildings that included the surrounding buildings. Do we have those?

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Bushra: I have this picture?

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barrycassilly: That's of the site that's of the

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barrycassilly: I have photos. I took them 2 h ago, but I don't know how to show them to you guys.

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Michael Jensen: Barry, if you want to send them to me.

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barrycassilly: Oh.

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barrycassilly: okay, I I can. I can throw them up. I sent some of them to you in the text to do. You need them in an email.

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Michael Jensen: Yes, I can.

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Michael Jensen: Maybe I can.

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barrycassilly: I think I can figure this out. Well, we could go ahead and take public comment people, but people, if I could if we don't know what we're talking about. Clearly, other people aren't either.

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lauren siegel: and I thought there was another question from Corinne around the back of the property, and where the perpendicular to the property line with 1,336 was asked, karen weren't you asking about that last time, too.

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corinne Baginski: Yeah, because, having that addition on top, I just wasn't sure

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lauren siegel: I would look like right. And so you would ask very specific question to to get some kind of survey or layout to understand where it is, and i'm not sure we've gotten that yet, either.

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barrycassilly: Yeah, there's a lot of questions about the third floor of 1,336, and the third floor, and the roof deck of 1,338

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barrycassilly: and I'm. I'm not quite clear on the relationship between the 2 properties

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I when we measured it, seems like when you on the roof tech it.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: it is so close to the bedroom area it's

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barrycassilly: we would miss what roof deck

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Michael Jensen: the rooft as a new building is almost so when you send new building you mean

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Michael Jensen: the neighbor 1,336.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: That's well. 30 36 on the third floor has bedroom windows all around and when 1338. When you have a roof tech and such a short distance between them. I feel like if you stand up there, it's almost like You're right.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: They can look right into their bedroom area, and then they're opposing.

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barrycassilly: Yeah, that was that was

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barrycassilly: that led to other questions last time about putting fencing up there. But

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barrycassilly: are there are there? Let's let's ask it. This are there windows

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barrycassilly: on the third floor of the proposed project that look into the windows of the existing third floor of 1,336.

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corinne Baginski: No, no, we can't

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Michael Jensen: for sure you may have to stop your screen sharing.

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lauren siegel: Can I ask a bigger picture question is it fair for us to be getting into the details of this project. Shouldn't. We just be dealing with the issues of what they're asking for, rather than evaluating the things that are

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lauren siegel: already by code acceptable. I mean, they're asking for 2 things and shouldn't. We focus on the 2 things they're asking for.

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Michael Jensen: So the I I would say the material things for both the height

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Michael Jensen: and the setbacks are how that's going to fit into the surrounding buildings.

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Michael Jensen: But i'm gonna. And you guys see these photos yet we cannot.

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barrycassilly: Yeah, I know it. I know it's inconvenient for the project applicants. When you do make a request for an adjustment or a variance it. It opens the conversation to how other things relate to that request

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lauren siegel: One building can see from the other building. Is that really

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corinne Baginski: our decision to make. How do you even? No, but it helps it it it it can helps the the owner to the the adjacent neighbor to accept it.

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barrycassilly: meaning they don't want that new construction to have a window, and to have clear view of their interior.

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barrycassilly: Yes, tell me if you could see these pictures now. I I stopped sharing it. It it's nothing I can do on my end.

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jim murez: and it should override what she's got up.

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Michael Jensen: I know I should. It says my screen share is loading.

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Anthony: We can probably move on. I mean, if I I don't know about everybody else. It it it it's in the of the I I I I made. I made a a specific. I I specifically I I I'll make sure that that we had no windows

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Anthony: that were there. Were They were they were looking at either the other neighborhood. 1, 3, 3, 6, or the neighbor of you have me obvious. I'm conscientious of the fact that I would not want an in anybody's or or windows at the proximity of a of that. They are all the windows will that we have on the entire of the building of the size on the first floor, which look at

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Anthony: and a wall are are are looking at electric avenue. That's the type of of of of design. I I ask my my my architects to to to make simply of a for of the reason that I want it to be as Co.

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Anthony: The conscious of a of a privacy as as I can being so, it's a small lot, and there's and there are a lot of options.

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Anthony: But but i'm i'm willing to make any kind of a a concession to me. I'm done there.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, so

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Michael Jensen: i'm pulling up the pictures right now.

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barrycassilly: Of course they don't come up with what they're looking at. Yes, very, please do, because I am not sorry. Okay, this is the bottom 2. We we're. We're moving through the photographs. Okay.

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barrycassilly: Stop.

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barrycassilly: Okay, that's we're looking right now. We're looking at 1336

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barrycassilly: and that's the sidewalk. So there's the corner of 1,336 in the front door, and there's the sidewalk. So you can see how that portion of the building relates to the right of way

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barrycassilly: the one

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barrycassilly: previous to that, I don't think. Is that important? It's just showing that's the there's a 20 foot wall on. I think they might have some windows in that wall, but it's it's

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barrycassilly: on the lot line adjoining

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barrycassilly: the next property. I'm not sure what that address is, but it's

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barrycassilly: okay. That's fine. Then the next the next photo. This one here is looking at the wall on 1,336, as it relates to 1,338. So we're seeing the eaves

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barrycassilly: of 1,338. I right there, I can't tell what the property line is, but you're looking at a at a 20 foot

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barrycassilly: like share plane.

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Michael Jensen: It's not. It's not.

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barrycassilly: This is 20 feet here. The the third floor is set back

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barrycassilly: somewhat, and it goes up the rest of the distance to 30 feet. So but this what you see when you're standing right next to the wall. If you step back, you see the third floor

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Michael Jensen: got it very.

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corinne Baginski: Can I ask you a question on that picture

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barrycassilly: is that's 1,338 that's the neighbor from the street.

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Michael Jensen: So it's sort of similar to the other angle. Okay.

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corinne Baginski: were you able to see the distance of the edge of the E to that building phase

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barrycassilly: it's like inches.

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barrycassilly: so do they be like 10 inches or less.

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jim murez: And you zoom on that part. Nickel

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Hmm.

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barrycassilly: Also it doesn't look like 1,336 is straight on the lot line. It looks to me like this closer towards the rear. The the neighbors are 3 3 inches away from the property line. Somehow.

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barrycassilly: the neighbors. Which ones

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barrycassilly: That's this this guy. They're 3 inches away.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I got it. Okay, as far as we measured with to tape, not to. I understand. Okay, I'm gonna have to ask everyone to raise hands because it's getting a little unly here.

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Michael Jensen: Jack.

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Jeff Martin: I I just said, I think Anthony mentioned that he spoke. Did you speak with the neighbor, and and did they

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Jeff Martin: say that they were in support of of your design, Anthony, or

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Michael Jensen: are we done clarifying questions?

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lauren siegel: I still have one mother question.

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Michael Jensen: Is it a clarification?

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lauren siegel: Yeah, it's a clarification from a question I asked last week.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, go ahead.

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lauren siegel: So I I raised the question that they're asking for. Aside your setback as well as a height adjustment.

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lauren siegel: It seems to me that it would be in everybody's best interest to find a compromise on the height Adjustment. That's not clarifying. Okay. So i'm going to open it up to public comment. Now.

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Michael Jensen: my hand and public comment to okay, I'm: just every time I zoom keeps moving the windows around. So I have to get back to the attendees.

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Michael Jensen: So public comment, and then let me get my timer out

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and

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Michael Jensen: screen share.

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That's a lifestyle.

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Yeah.

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Michael Jensen: Where did it come now?

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Michael Jensen: Can everyone see a timer? Yes.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, great.

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Michael Jensen: And now the attendees moved to some mysterious place.

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Michael Jensen: I'm telling you

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Michael Jensen: your timer is maximized on your screen here. Okay. So i'm going to start off. So I see 1, 2

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along here

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Michael Jensen: on our hand. I'm just gonna lower your hands. Guys

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Michael Jensen: who cannot.

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It's okay.

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mute.

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Michael Jensen: So I see 3 hands up.

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Michael Jensen: I will do. I see here

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Michael Jensen: 2 min. Oh, yeah.

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Michael Jensen: I will give you guys 2 min a piece.

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Michael Jensen: and starting with Stanley.

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Michael Jensen: Go ahead.

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Michael Jensen: Stanley. You can talk.

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jim murez: Yes, I mean

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Stanley Nowak: i'm sorry. Did you Re Michael? Did you receive the documents I sent today? The photographs of the of the

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Stanley Nowak: Yes, I I simply Don't understand how the architect could

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Stanley Nowak: indicate that the property Anthony's property crosses over onto my property. It simply does not.

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Stanley Nowak: There's a parallel equal distance of that property all the way along. So this

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Stanley Nowak: this plan I spoke to the people in plan part today, and sent them the documents also.

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Stanley Nowak: I've measured this. I studied architecture. I have an Mfa. I don't have problems using a tape measure.

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Stanley Nowak: The front side back on on the plan shows 11 and 3 quarter inches. In reality it's 30 and a half inches.

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Stanley Nowak: The length of the northerly wall

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Stanley Nowak: is 28 and a quarter inches the plan shows it as 29 3 and 3 quarter inches.

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Stanley Nowak: This

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Stanley Nowak: building does not go on to my property absolutely. No.

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Stanley Nowak: my property is built very clearly 3 inches from the property line.

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Stanley Nowak: so I think these people should get a certified

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Stanley Nowak: survey and a plot map showing exactly where the house is.

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Stanley Nowak: because otherwise we're going forward with plans that are incorrectly drawn. They have a building that's bigger than it is, and that's not fair to me.

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Stanley Nowak: my main concern, Anthony, is with the roof deck. You say you don't have any windows, but you have a roof deck that will look down on everybody around you.

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Stanley Nowak: You say that this is your dream house, and yet for the last 3 years you've owned it. You've been illegally renting it through.

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Stanley Nowak: Because you've never occupied the place.

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Stanley Nowak: Why didn't you get a Homeowner's exemption

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Stanley Nowak: let's play fair and let's be honest with one another about what's going on with the project.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, Thank you.

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Stanley Nowak: Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Moving on to

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Cj: Call.

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CJ Cole: Okay, am I on muted?

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CJ Cole: Okay, 3 quick things: First of all, being out of the real estate industry, I do not believe that he is planning on owner, occupying it forever. Every time they come to you and ask for this you get

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CJ Cole: hold that, and they all go up for sale real quickly. Okay, that's number one number 2. I am against any of these requests for setbacks and height adjustments

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CJ Cole: and number 3.

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CJ Cole: They should have known when they bought this lot at basically the lowest price of anything in Venice.

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CJ Cole: Then it was not going to become a Taj Mahal.

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CJ Cole: It is small, it is to me it it just you know I don't know what was in their mind when they bought it.

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CJ Cole: but it never should be able to.

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CJ Cole: You know at that price that they pay for. They should well know that they were not buying a normal lot. Invest?

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CJ Cole: Okay, and number 4. I think we definitely need to see a survey

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CJ Cole: of exactly where these lot lines are.

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CJ Cole: and exactly where

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CJ Cole: the buildings adjacent buildings on all 3 sides are. And also I would like to see something that shows me where these buildings are relationship to.

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CJ Cole: I think it's San Juan, or whatever the side street is.

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CJ Cole: and Venice all of our I mean our Abbott Kenny and Electric. Okay, it's just we can't tell where we are at, because there's not enough a definition in their drawings.

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CJ Cole: Okay. But I just have a feeling that what we have is a little teeny little spot, and it never it just can't grow as much as they want to do. Thanks.

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Michael Jensen: Thank you. Cj.

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Robin here has

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Robin Murez: Hi I'd. Have to totally agree with C. J. That

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Robin Murez: the notion of

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Robin Murez: reducing setbacks

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Robin Murez: and the notion of increasing height

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Robin Murez: is completely preposterous. Those regulations exist to

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Robin Murez: keep an neighborhood safer to have. You know. Why live in Venice if you're not going to have air and light, can't win open your windows to get the breezes, because you would here and see your neighbors? And is there any open space on this lot? Would they have any trees or vegetation.

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Robin Murez: Again they bought a a small lot.

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Robin Murez: Build what suits that lot, Don't. Try to completely break every

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Robin Murez: code that's preposterous. It

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Robin Murez: it's it's the undoing of our whole community. And to pass this

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Robin Murez: just, you know, sets a precedent that is wrong for the entire community.

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Robin Murez: And yeah, owner occupied. They all say that. And

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you know.

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Robin Murez: Anthony, sounds like a nice person. But come on this. You have to build to suit the lot.

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Robin Murez: That's all.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Thank you, Robin?

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Michael Jensen: Okay, now.

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Michael Jensen: committee comment, and i'll start off with Lawrence if I cut you off. I'm sorry to be, but you forgot to the keel. If I had my kim. I don't see you in the attendees hand.

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Michael Jensen: Go ahead, Jim. 2 min still applies. Okay, clear. Clear the clock clear. Oh, you already started. Okay, I just wanted to mention a couple of things. I heard the applicants say

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jim murez: that they were not going to have an AD you any longer. Their permit application did specify it. So I hope that anything that you passed makes it clear that you're not approving an AD. You a unit on the site which would

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jim murez: intensify the use of the site if they change their mind once again later on in the permit application, because it was already submitted that way.

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jim murez: so that should be a condition on your part. I also heard the applicants say that they were going to have a balcony that was going to encroach into the setback. I guess i'm. Curious. How far is that balcony going to encroach into the setback, because they're talking about having a reduced setback.

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jim murez: And now they're also talking about encroaching. The last thing I wanted to mention was something that I learned way back when when when somebody

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jim murez: builds a three-story building, the I believe that there's something in the municipal code it talks about above the second story. You have to add one foot for every story above up setback.

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jim murez: and unless i'm mistaken, maybe one of the architects that matter. Somebody can clarify that, Barry, maybe you know. But I believe that if there is 3 stories that they would have to have 4 feet of set back on the fourth story. Not what they're asking for, and and I guess that needs to be clarified also.

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jim murez: and and then there has to be an issue about firewalls when it's too close with openings. And anyway, you got my drift. Thank you. And by the way, I will add that that I'm. Not opposed to making special circumstances, for under sized loss.

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jim murez: assuming that the standard in Venice is 2,700 square feet, which is 30 by 90.

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jim murez: Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Thanks.

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Michael Jensen: Okay. I have one more. And then i'm a close-up. Public comment Julie Bean.

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Julie Bean: Hi, Thank you so much for taking me.

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Julie Bean: I'm sure the people that are asking for these permits are lovely, but I don't know if anyone building their dream home takes anyone that's actually living in their dream home. Currently, that might be one story.

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Julie Bean: Our house is now at least 10 degrees cooler in the winter.

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Julie Bean: We have no sun that hits our house during the winter, because there is a 3 story with the rooftop deck next to us.

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Julie Bean: so I just wish people would take into consideration what they're taking away from others. Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Thank you. Okay, Public comment is closed. I'm going to lower your hands.

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Michael Jensen: Committee

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Michael Jensen: comment.

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Michael Jensen: raising my hand.

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Michael Jensen: Thank you.

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barrycassilly: So let just to

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barrycassilly: go over what I heard from the public comments.

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barrycassilly: Stanley, the neighbor, at 1,336, was saying that his existing property is 3 inches off the property line.

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barrycassilly: and my understanding is that the new home proposed home at 1,338 will be 3 feet off the property line.

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barrycassilly: and

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barrycassilly: I was really confused by what Cg. Calls talking about with the survey we are. We have a survey for the for the existing lot.

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barrycassilly: It might be helpful if if that survey was added on to to show the adjoining properties, because I I think people keep missing the fact that there are existing 3 story homes

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barrycassilly: on 2 of the 3 sides of this property.

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barrycassilly: with virtually no setbacks.

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barrycassilly: and I one general point I wanted to make was that the intent, the core intent of

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barrycassilly: then a specific plan was to ensure that we could build family homes on our typically substandard lots. So for me.

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barrycassilly: that's something that I I wake heavily when looking at this project.

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barrycassilly: This is a very small sub standard lot, but

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barrycassilly: you know the the intention, as I understand it, is not to zone families out of Venice, but to make it possible for families to live in Venice.

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barrycassilly: that just so. I i'm paying attention to that when I'm I'm. Listening to these comments.

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barrycassilly: and with respect to somebody said a lot of stuff about breaking all the rules or something.

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barrycassilly: My understanding, please correct me if i'm wrong is that these are not variances. They are adjustments and just adjustments are a more, a more minor consideration compared to variances.

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barrycassilly: And

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barrycassilly: so I don't know I just

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barrycassilly: that's all I have to say. I'm just trying to listen to the speakers.

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Michael Jensen: Thanks, Barry.

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Michael Jensen: other committee members who have comments.

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Michael Jensen: No one. I'm sorry.

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Michael Jensen: Oh, no, Lauren, I I cut you off before, so please.

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corinne Baginski: That's

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Michael Jensen: Lauren. Had I I interrupted her because she had not a clarifying question, but an actual comment.

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lauren siegel: I'm. Good.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, Corinne.

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corinne Baginski: So I guess, if I understand correctly, is that by doing this remodel, they will remove the eve.

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corinne Baginski: Therefore the eve won't be

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corinne Baginski: as close to the adjacent building

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corinne Baginski: i'm not opposed to those adjustment. I think it's kind of justified.

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corinne Baginski: And and I mean, I see their point doing this project the way they are showing.

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Michael Jensen: Okay.

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Michael Jensen: So I'm.

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Michael Jensen: Thanks, Brian. My thoughts on or

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Michael Jensen: well, i'll call you a second. My thoughts are on this. This is an extremely substandard.

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Michael Jensen: The requests that are being asked are

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Michael Jensen: for

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Michael Jensen: zoning adjustments to make what would probably. I mean, I think

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Michael Jensen: if if we adhere to the code on this project you could build something like 300 square feet.

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Michael Jensen: footprint

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Michael Jensen: going

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Michael Jensen: 2 levels high.

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Michael Jensen: and that's just not feasible for a

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Michael Jensen: for a home in the modern era.

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Michael Jensen: So the adjustments

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Michael Jensen: of you know, reducing to 3 foot setbacks.

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Michael Jensen: You know that that does sort of match the surround, at least the immediately adjacent buildings

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Michael Jensen: and the height, although i'd like to clarify that the height we're talking about is measured from the center line is 29 feet, and change not 27 feet. 27 feet is the measurement from the

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Michael Jensen: existing top of the floor of the of the home that exists.

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Michael Jensen: That being said 29 feet and change is still

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Michael Jensen: not extremely out of bounds from

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Michael Jensen: for the surrounding area

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Michael Jensen: with that in mind.

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Michael Jensen: you know these

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Michael Jensen: these are not incredibly, you know this does not break all the rules it it requests, you know, deviation from really 3 of them.

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Michael Jensen: and I see there's an attend butcher. Can you just can you remind us what the what's the total square footage of

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Michael Jensen: the house as that that's proposed here?

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Bushra: Can you guys hear me now?

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Bushra: Sorry I I lost.

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Bushra: I lost the connection, Just froze. I had to re-enter

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Bushra: So you asked me about the size right now the existing site. What's the proposed side of the post site? Okay. So the proposed addition is 1,002 square feet, with a total proposed, would be 1,500,

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Michael Jensen: so 1,500 when it's all setting done, and how much of that is the third floor.

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Michael Jensen: The third floor is 502 square feet.

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Michael Jensen: Okay.

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Bushra: I also, just to clarify the height, so it would be 29 feet something if we keep the existing floor. We are demolishing the floor by keeping the wall. So we are.

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Bushra: It's not a finished floor that we are adding, so it'd be if we I sent you the data Pdf. So if we measure the

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Bushra: it would be 27 feet and 6 inches

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Michael Jensen: building

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Bushra: from the central line of electric avenue to the top of the building would be 27 feet 6 inches.

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Bushra: I'm. And I'm. Using the the total survey that we got because the existing

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the way it's shown here. The central line is at 11.14,

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Bushra: but the finish for the existing was 13. Point 8, 5. We're demolishing that. So we're not calculating from that.

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Michael Jensen: Okay. So the height of this building is measured from center line to the top of the roof is 27 out of twenty-

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Bushra: Yes, it's.

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You had a a comment as well.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, Barry.

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barrycassilly: Yeah. Yeah. One quick thing.

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barrycassilly: So from what I heard from the owner at 1,336

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barrycassilly: there were a lot of things about surveys and measuring things with the tape measure. And but we we have a survey that we're going to work off of. I'm going to respect that the only thing I heard concretely that was an objection

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barrycassilly: to the new house, and this going back to the last meeting was about privacy about viewing angles.

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barrycassilly: And so

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barrycassilly: I sort of see. I suggested specifically that that the new owners consider only on the side of the building that face 1,336, doing a taller screen.

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barrycassilly: so that nobody could see from 1336 to 1338 or vice, versa, the owner of 1,336 rejected that out of hand.

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barrycassilly: I don't know I mean it. It seems like

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barrycassilly: if that's the real concern, it would address that concern, and it's. It's no loss to the owners at the 1338 to put it a a privacy screen up there

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barrycassilly: Does the owner of 1,338 have any comment on that.

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Bushra: We, if if

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Bushra: I we don't mind adding a screen for sure but that doesn't seem to be an issue, though it's the entire project from our neighborhood, and which is also 3 story same thing with the rare side, and not including any front setback.

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barrycassilly: No, I I know that your neighbor just doesn't want a building to be built there, but

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barrycassilly: he I thought to me it was a reasonable concern about the sight lines.

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barrycassilly: and you know

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barrycassilly: i'm sure it's not really going to satisfy him. But it just seems reasonable.

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Bushra: Yeah, we not opposing to adding screens on the roof deck.

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barrycassilly: so maybe you guys could have future conversations with each other. Okay, thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Next one is Jeff.

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Jeff Martin: Sorry. This is a clarification. But the the 2 houses. That are 3 stories next door the height of those do we know what the height of those are? Did you? Did you say they were above 25 feet as well.

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Bushra: and 3 story on 1,336 electric.

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Jeff Martin: So so those also both exceed the 25 feet. Yes, absolutely

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Jeff Martin: okay.

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Michael Jensen: Is there a. Who who prepared this survey?

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Bushra: It was given to us by the client. Sites are there

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Michael Jensen: because I don't see a name or a stamp on it.

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Yeah.

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Bushra: you can request your going to give us the new survey.

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Michael Jensen: Anthony.

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Anthony: Yes.

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Michael Jensen: Who did you hire to? Who did the survey?

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Anthony: Oh, God, it's been it's been. This has been a process of over the last few years. I I I was to look through my on my on my records, but we we we paid for a company to do it.

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Michael Jensen: Yeah, there's they've been in. Stamp it.

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Anthony: I think. I think I think it's because the the the file that that my architect has is a cat file, and and when you make it into a Pdf it it takes away the stamp, but it's it's it's a Pdf. Of the CAD file.

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corinne Baginski: Do they have a title block?

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Not in this one? No?

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corinne Baginski: Well, they should have a title block, but at least it could provide that.

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Anthony: I know that

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Anthony: I I I I know that we we we paid a professional, a a a company to do it. I just sort of off top my head.

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Michael Jensen: Oh, sure! Can you look and see if you have a stamped version of this?

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Bushra: I don't have a stand version right now to show you.

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barrycassilly: Mikhail, do you want to verify that we are looking at at the official copy?

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corinne Baginski: Can we see that page on the screen?

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Michael Jensen: So i'm looking at here, i'll. I'll share what I'm looking at right now.

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Michael Jensen: Can everyone see what looks to be a

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barrycassilly: Yes.

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Michael Jensen: Okay.

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Michael Jensen: So

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Michael Jensen: i'm looking. I mean, there's

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Michael Jensen: no stamps on it?

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Michael Jensen: Or does it say who was prepared by

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barrycassilly: this? Is this is the architectural drawings that the city is looking at this the full survey will be a different page.

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Michael Jensen: Right? But I don't have. That was not provided to us. So that was I mean, I. I guess my my hesitation on. This is last meeting

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Michael Jensen: we came up with, I I think, to somewhat clear as that

836
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Michael Jensen: for documents that are not here, or at least that

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01:34:18.850 --> 01:34:22.290
Michael Jensen: are not here with all of the information that we wanted.

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Michael Jensen: I bush. I know that you guys are under the under under a deadline with the When is it a decision expected.

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Bushra: did they

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Bushra: will be. This request was sent back in November 15, and we were given 30 days.

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Bushra: So

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Bushra: yeah, past all of the deadlines.

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01:34:43.890 --> 01:34:51.589
Bushra: But you were given 30 days for what? To have this meeting, and it took us really long time to come to this meeting.

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01:34:53.820 --> 01:34:55.540
Bushra: We wouldn't given any dates.

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Bushra: So even though this stuff was submitted back in November.

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Bushra: Yeah, and submitting to planning Yes, and also to the Venice.

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01:35:07.450 --> 01:35:09.029
Bushra: the Coastal Commission.

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Michael Jensen: you're saying 3 different things now.

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Bushra: you you! We submitted to the planning and the planning and pack sample package of our submitted to the other department.

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01:35:28.430 --> 01:35:35.290
Bushra: and then we heard back. Yes. And then we heard back from that requesting for the meeting, which was the

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01:35:35.360 --> 01:35:37.290
Bushra: last meeting that we had together.

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01:35:40.480 --> 01:35:42.539
Michael Jensen: Hold on a second. Let me pull up.

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01:35:42.640 --> 01:35:43.700
Michael Jensen: Yeah.

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01:35:44.120 --> 01:35:44.700
yes.

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Bushra: Oh, and and also I did found the

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01:35:58.580 --> 01:36:02.070
Bushra: the official Pdf: I can share on the screen right now.

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Michael Jensen: Please do.

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Bushra: I need the permission because it's stuck on my end.

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Bushra: It's loading.

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01:36:41.510 --> 01:36:44.129
Bushra: and I also just send it to your email, Michael.

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Anthony: I I don't have an option to share my screen here stuck on my end.

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01:37:00.030 --> 01:37:04.369
Bushra: Yeah, I just shared it to Michael and his email.

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01:37:04.540 --> 01:37:05.200
Okay.

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01:37:59.180 --> 01:38:00.710
Bushra: that that's not me.

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01:38:10.770 --> 01:38:11.849
Michael Jensen: I'm sharing it.

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01:38:13.750 --> 01:38:14.570
But

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01:38:15.220 --> 01:38:19.200
Michael Jensen: can everyone see this full plan. So where is the stamped?

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01:38:19.370 --> 01:38:23.220
Bushra: Oh, it it! I just sent it to your email right now.

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01:38:23.580 --> 01:38:33.950
Michael Jensen: It's one page document. There's nothing attached to the email you sent me. It's going to be a separate document. It won't be part of the set.

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01:38:34.620 --> 01:38:35.620
Bushra: Yes.

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01:38:41.500 --> 01:38:51.440
Bushra: yeah, there's there's not. It's it's it's not in that. P. That's our architecture set. I know, in the email you sent me that, says Official Survey. There's nothing attached.

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01:38:51.990 --> 01:38:53.700
Bushra: Okay, I'll.

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01:39:19.840 --> 01:39:21.669
Bushra: I hope you got a this time.

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01:39:28.070 --> 01:39:30.340
Michael Jensen: Yeah. Now, there's something attached.

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01:39:34.550 --> 01:39:36.829
Michael Jensen: Okay, now let me share this.

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01:39:38.490 --> 01:39:39.669
Michael Jensen: There's a stamp.

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01:39:41.320 --> 01:39:42.250
Michael Jensen: Okay.

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01:39:46.540 --> 01:39:48.879
Michael Jensen: Now, can everyone see that?

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01:39:49.900 --> 01:39:53.880
Michael Jensen: Alright, so just make Sure, we're looking at the same as we before.

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01:40:01.980 --> 01:40:02.610
Hmm.

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01:40:04.990 --> 01:40:11.080
Michael Jensen: Okay. But this doesn't have the height. It's only gonna give us the setback. So we have point 9 feet.

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01:40:14.730 --> 01:40:15.360
Yeah.

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01:40:23.140 --> 01:40:23.719
Hmm.

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01:40:24.380 --> 01:40:26.250
barrycassilly: What what are we looking for?

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01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:34.279
Michael Jensen: I just wanted the stamped version of the survey because the other one didn't. I mean, if we're going to rely on the survey as being terminative.

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01:40:34.430 --> 01:40:40.379
Michael Jensen: Do you want to ask? Do you have the stamped survey as a separate document? Yes, it's we're looking at it right now.

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01:40:41.100 --> 01:40:42.259
barrycassilly: Where is the stamp?

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01:40:43.040 --> 01:40:44.099
Michael Jensen: Right here?

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01:40:44.690 --> 01:40:46.170
Michael Jensen: This was done

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01:40:46.280 --> 01:40:47.600
Michael Jensen: in 2020.

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01:40:51.450 --> 01:40:54.190
barrycassilly: I can't see it, but I take your word for it.

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01:40:54.640 --> 01:40:56.359
Michael Jensen: Yes, it's stamped and signed.

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01:40:56.450 --> 01:40:57.929
barrycassilly: Okay, cool. We're good.

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01:40:59.320 --> 01:41:00.070
Michael Jensen: Well.

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01:41:00.200 --> 01:41:10.280
Michael Jensen: so I do. We want to discuss this more? Is there a motion that that I mean, I would suggest if there's going to be a motion to prove this? But the conditions and

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01:41:11.170 --> 01:41:14.420
Michael Jensen: the finding required findings for

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Michael Jensen: any of the adjustments be added.

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01:41:20.030 --> 01:41:22.709
barrycassilly: Can you tell us, can you?

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01:41:23.550 --> 01:41:24.809
barrycassilly: And you just?

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01:41:25.710 --> 01:41:37.049
Michael Jensen: I know you're not allowed to make a motion. But can you tell us what you would like us to say in that respect

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01:41:43.620 --> 01:41:47.289
Michael Jensen: just a second. Now I have to go back to zoom and share that.

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01:41:55.020 --> 01:41:55.969
Michael Jensen: So

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01:41:57.970 --> 01:41:59.220
Michael Jensen: these are the

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01:42:00.650 --> 01:42:03.399
Michael Jensen: adjustment findings. I've highlighted them.

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01:42:04.150 --> 01:42:05.129
Michael Jensen: So I would

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01:42:05.630 --> 01:42:08.280
Michael Jensen: proposed that we address that in the motion

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01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:10.050
Michael Jensen: also the

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01:42:15.390 --> 01:42:20.530
Michael Jensen: the AD. You is not part of the product, or is no longer part of the project, so we should be

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01:42:20.660 --> 01:42:21.710
Michael Jensen: clear on that.

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01:42:25.680 --> 01:42:28.700
Michael Jensen: And then what did

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01:42:30.390 --> 01:42:32.710
Michael Jensen: here? Your suggestion for a.

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01:42:32.950 --> 01:42:42.750
barrycassilly: For a screen? I don't know that that's that we can oppose because it's not I. I I wasn't suggesting that I was strongly

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01:42:42.770 --> 01:42:46.110
barrycassilly: urging the parties to speak with each other informally.

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01:42:46.260 --> 01:42:49.530
Michael Jensen: But anyway, that's what we got going on.

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01:42:50.940 --> 01:42:53.069
Michael Jensen: so I leave it to the committee to.

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Michael Jensen: you know. Make a motion out of this, or or decide what what

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01:42:56.590 --> 01:43:05.030
barrycassilly: we we will. But how is it going to read? We're going to say, what are we going to say? Could like? I'll make the motion if I know what it is.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, so let me.

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Michael Jensen: You want to adopt in

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01:43:11.010 --> 01:43:12.070
Michael Jensen: the

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Hmm.

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barrycassilly: So we could say in considering the following: it's only administrator, blah, blah, blah, blah blah

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barrycassilly: does all this stuff.

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jim murez: Very Can I interrupt for 1 s? Why, don't you just copy that right into your into your yeah, that and it's done.

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jim murez: We recommend the project with the following 3 conditions.

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jim murez: or under the under the 3 following

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01:43:42.640 --> 01:43:44.519
jim murez: statements: Whatever you want to call it.

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Michael Jensen: it's really findings, because these are za findings.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Excuse me, May I make a hit? Comment.

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01:44:09.140 --> 01:44:15.359
Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, i'm getting text from the neighbor about. Did you see the

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: photos, and

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: so on, and so forth, and request in a stamped survey which we're in the middle of drafting emotion. So I know, but i'm getting the full that i'm getting. It's it's that's out of turn renews. I mean, I know you're trying to be really nice.

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but we have the stamped survey.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: That's it. It's not the photos, too right.

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barrycassilly: We have a stamped survey. We know these measurements are correct.

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Michael Jensen: I mean, I yeah, I I think it in weighing a stamped survey, or by a survey or versus a photograph with a paper.

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Michael Jensen: you know. I get it. Yeah, it's a survey. It's more important.

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Michael Jensen: Okay.

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Michael Jensen: So

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Michael Jensen: hold on a second. I need to bring up.

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Michael Jensen: Sorry

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Michael Jensen: this is

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Michael Jensen: okay.

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Michael Jensen: Can everyone read this now?

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01:45:39.940 --> 01:45:41.730
What I can to show you

946
01:45:45.240 --> 01:45:47.330
connections?

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01:45:47.450 --> 01:45:48.240
Michael Jensen: Okay.

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Michael Jensen: hey? Would you like to read your motion?

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01:45:53.890 --> 01:45:55.320
barrycassilly: Oh, sure.

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01:45:55.640 --> 01:46:10.850
barrycassilly: Lupc recommends approval of the project without an AD, and with the following findings, that while the side characteristics or existing improvements make strict adherence to the summing regulations and practical or unfeasible. The project done the less conforms with the intent of those regulations.

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barrycassilly: Then in the light of the project as a whole, including any mitigating measures and post the project, location, size, height, operations, and other significant features will be compatible with, and will not adversely affect for further degrade adjacent properties. The surrounding neighborhood of the public health, welfare.

952
01:46:27.620 --> 01:46:39.219
barrycassilly: and safety, and that the project is in substantial performance with the purpose, intent, and provisions of the general plan, they applicable community plan, and any applicable specific plan

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01:46:42.010 --> 01:46:43.130
barrycassilly: we.

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01:46:43.280 --> 01:46:46.349
barrycassilly: or approving the project as presented

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01:46:46.610 --> 01:46:49.500
Michael Jensen: Right? Well, no, it's not as presented, because

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01:46:50.010 --> 01:46:52.469
Michael Jensen: it's not what it's without an edu.

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barrycassilly: Oh, my God! Okay. So so we are going to. How do I say that we approve the project? It recommends approval of a project without me to you, and with the following findings. And you, I make this.

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Michael Jensen: Okay.

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01:47:12.540 --> 01:47:13.590
Michael Jensen: Was that Matt.

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01:47:13.650 --> 01:47:14.480
Matthew Royce: Yeah.

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Okay.

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01:47:15.970 --> 01:47:18.589
Michael Jensen: not all of them are new. Sorry. There's no thirds

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01:47:22.740 --> 01:47:24.010
Christopher McLean: there.

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01:47:24.920 --> 01:47:28.850
Michael Jensen: All right. I'll do a roll call. Vote on this, and I just gotta find all of the

965
01:47:32.060 --> 01:47:32.860
Michael Jensen: people.

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01:47:35.200 --> 01:47:36.700
Michael Jensen: Okay.

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01:47:36.840 --> 01:47:38.120
Barry.

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01:47:38.240 --> 01:47:39.070
barrycassilly: Yes.

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01:47:40.270 --> 01:47:41.949
Michael Jensen: Current.

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01:47:42.550 --> 01:47:43.590
Michael Jensen: Christopher.

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01:47:43.900 --> 01:47:44.840
Christopher McLean: Yes.

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01:47:45.960 --> 01:47:47.819
corinne Baginski: Yeah.

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01:47:48.430 --> 01:47:49.519
Jeff Martin: Yes.

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01:47:50.310 --> 01:47:51.150
Michael Jensen: Warren.

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01:47:51.610 --> 01:47:52.550
lauren siegel: Yes.

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01:47:53.590 --> 01:47:54.580
Michael Jensen: Matthew.

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01:47:54.770 --> 01:47:55.580
Matthew Royce: Yes.

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01:47:58.050 --> 01:48:00.349
Michael Jensen: and that's

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01:48:01.510 --> 01:48:03.630
Michael Jensen: at 7,

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01:48:04.120 --> 01:48:08.109
Michael Jensen: and I am an 8. So that's 8. I'll also vote. Yes.

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01:48:08.740 --> 01:48:10.700
Michael Jensen: okay. Motion carries.

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Michael Jensen: Thank you. Bush, for Anthony and Eddie and everyone else are sticking around

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01:48:19.010 --> 01:48:21.070
Stanley. This will be on

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01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:24.569
Michael Jensen: the Vnc. Is meeting

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01:48:24.800 --> 01:48:30.789
Michael Jensen: this month, so you can Also, i'll forward on all I can. I can make that stuff available

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Michael Jensen: to the

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01:48:33.220 --> 01:48:41.179
Michael Jensen: to the Board, your objections, and all all your the written correspondence you've sent, and it'll be the third Tuesday

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01:48:41.260 --> 01:48:45.769
Michael Jensen: of February. If you want to also make public comments.

989
01:48:46.450 --> 01:48:47.980
Michael Jensen: Okay, moving on

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01:48:48.620 --> 01:48:52.260
Michael Jensen: 2, 4, 2, 5 Pacific.

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Michael Jensen: And this is a request to renew an existing coastal development permit and zone variance entitlements under Za, 2,012 to 100. And 88 Cdp.

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01:49:05.510 --> 01:49:08.160
Michael Jensen: Is that Brian in the audience?

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01:49:11.360 --> 01:49:12.500
Michael Jensen: Okay.

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01:49:13.080 --> 01:49:16.339
Michael Jensen: Brian, do you have a? You want me to make you a panel so you can present?

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01:49:16.810 --> 01:49:19.250
Brian Silveira: Yes, please. But

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Brian Silveira: oh.

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Brian Silveira: I have to.

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01:49:38.650 --> 01:49:39.799
Can you guys hear me.

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Brian Silveira: Yeah, Sorry you said those 2, and then they cut off. Yeah. And then it transition to me over. So, my

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Brian Silveira: my speaker, excuse me. My microphone on my computer is not working, so I have to speak into a phone.

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01:49:53.710 --> 01:49:58.399
Brian Silveira: But I do the presentation from my computer. So i'm gonna

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01:49:58.510 --> 01:50:04.830
Michael Jensen: enter the webinar now from Mike. Do you want me to just send me the slides, and i'll put them up?

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Brian Silveira: No, that's it. This seems to be working. Okay, okay.

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I just want to

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Brian Silveira: make sure you accept me as a panelist. That looks like you have.

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01:50:20.200 --> 01:50:20.990
Brian Silveira: Okay.

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01:50:24.070 --> 01:50:26.350
Michael Jensen: So I have to find your other.

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01:50:26.570 --> 01:50:35.150
Brian Silveira: So a second you? Oh, no, you you you let in the second Me? Oh, okay, it it looks like you did. Yeah. So i'm going to go ahead and share my screen

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Brian Silveira: and

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Brian Silveira: sorry for the delays.

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01:50:41.520 --> 01:50:42.580
Brian Silveira: Okay.

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01:50:42.710 --> 01:50:43.469
Brian Silveira: So

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01:50:44.570 --> 01:50:51.740
Brian Silveira: Brian Silvera from Brian silver and associates on behalf of Brad Neil, who's the applicant?

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01:50:52.180 --> 01:51:00.000
Brian Silveira: And I just wanted to correct one thing that you said. When you describe the project you called it a coastal development permit.

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01:51:00.310 --> 01:51:06.059
Brian Silveira: but it it's actually not a coastal development. Permit. It's it's just a zone variance.

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01:51:06.450 --> 01:51:11.399
Brian Silveira: The the project was exempt from coastal back from 2,013,

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01:51:11.540 --> 01:51:16.169
Brian Silveira: and then coastal also issued as an exemption just recently. So

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01:51:17.510 --> 01:51:20.960
Michael Jensen: just just the Zoom Meeting so clarified.

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Brian Silveira: it still does have a Cdp tag in your case number, though that's the only thing I was reading from. Oh, it does. Well, so that then planning needs to correct that. But I I I assure you that it is not a Cdp.

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Brian Silveira: So yeah, this project. In in fact, I don't know if Jim here is is still here. But

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Brian Silveira: Jim was staff on Loopak for this project back in 2,012

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01:51:46.060 --> 01:51:48.669
when we came through about 10 years ago.

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Brian Silveira: and this is now just the renewal of that zone variance that was granted in 2,013.

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01:51:57.040 --> 01:52:04.209
Brian Silveira: The variance at that time had a a 10 year. Grant, that's set to expire next year.

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01:52:04.490 --> 01:52:10.420
Brian Silveira: and so we're just renewing what's been in place there for the last 10 years. We're not

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01:52:10.510 --> 01:52:12.520
Brian Silveira: asking you change anything.

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Brian Silveira: and and I think most of you are probably familiar with this site. If you weren't so it's

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01:52:19.800 --> 01:52:28.370
Brian Silveira: it's about halfway. It's on Pacific, about halfway between Venice and Washington. It's really the only little commercial thing in there.

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Brian Silveira: Kinda you know, sandwiched in that that R. D. 1.5 neighborhood that's mostly multi-family.

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Brian Silveira: and

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Brian Silveira: for a long time

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Brian Silveira: Well, for a long time since 2,013, I guess

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01:52:43.140 --> 01:52:46.869
Brian Silveira: it was a a plant based market called New Delhi.

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01:52:47.210 --> 01:52:51.860
Brian Silveira: And then for the last year or so it's been X market.

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which is

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01:52:54.210 --> 01:52:58.109
Brian Silveira: sort of similar concept. It's. It's an all video market

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01:52:58.270 --> 01:53:01.719
Brian Silveira: with a juice bar and a coffee bar, and so on.

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Brian Silveira: And

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Brian Silveira: here is a photo.

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Brian Silveira: On the left is the front facade that's on Pacific.

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01:53:13.030 --> 01:53:16.280
Brian Silveira: and on the right is the rear patio.

1042
01:53:19.100 --> 01:53:26.249
Brian Silveira: So here's the language from the 2,013 approval it is a zone variance. Permit

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01:53:26.320 --> 01:53:30.339
Brian Silveira: the re-establishment of a grocery, and Delhi use

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01:53:30.510 --> 01:53:35.149
Brian Silveira: with the sale of beer and wine only for offsite consumption.

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Brian Silveira: That's in the Rd. 1.5 zone.

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01:53:38.130 --> 01:53:43.560
Brian Silveira: and then to permit 3 required parking spaces to back out onto a public street.

1047
01:53:44.210 --> 01:53:46.139
Brian Silveira: So they're really

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01:53:46.760 --> 01:53:51.970
Brian Silveira: 2 parts to that original variance. The first is is a use experience.

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01:53:52.000 --> 01:53:56.149
Brian Silveira: and and also for the ability to sell beer and wine.

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01:53:56.220 --> 01:53:59.110
Brian Silveira: In the already 1.5 zone, which is something

1051
01:53:59.170 --> 01:54:02.770
Brian Silveira: they typically allow only in the commercial zones.

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01:54:03.060 --> 01:54:10.420
Brian Silveira: and then the second part is sort of a technicality. But Strong's drive is considered a public street.

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01:54:10.650 --> 01:54:13.940
Brian Silveira: It's not considered an ally. So, in order for

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01:54:14.040 --> 01:54:19.850
Brian Silveira: parking spaces associated with a commercial use to back on the strongest drive.

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Brian Silveira: We needed

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Brian Silveira: his own variance.

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No.

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Brian Silveira: in in practice, not a big deal, but Technically it requires a variance. So

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Brian Silveira: those are the 2 parts to the variance.

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Brian Silveira: Now fast forward, 10 years. All we're asking to do

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01:54:36.530 --> 01:54:41.180
Brian Silveira: is to renew that variance exactly as it's been the last 10 years.

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01:54:41.450 --> 01:54:46.820
Brian Silveira: and, in fact, this site has been a a market or a Deli, or you know

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01:54:47.110 --> 01:54:50.649
Brian Silveira: some form of that since 1,937.

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01:54:50.820 --> 01:54:53.159
Brian Silveira: Now we have that in in our records.

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01:54:53.370 --> 01:54:56.950
Brian Silveira: But at some point, you know, it used to be a commercial zoom

1066
01:54:57.100 --> 01:55:00.379
Brian Silveira: some point they will resume to already 1.5.

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01:55:00.760 --> 01:55:02.840
Brian Silveira: Those use right sunset.

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Brian Silveira: And so, even in 2,013 we we were, although we were asking for varies. We were really just asking for permission

1069
01:55:10.400 --> 01:55:14.229
Brian Silveira: to continue doing what what had been down there for many years.

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01:55:14.400 --> 01:55:18.150
Brian Silveira: And and now again we're we're just asking to do the same thing.

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Brian Silveira: So

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Brian Silveira: I won't go through through all the conditions that unless you guys would like me to, but I will call out one condition in particular

1073
01:55:33.040 --> 01:55:38.159
Brian Silveira: hours of operation. So back when Jim was assigned to this in in 2,012,

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01:55:38.370 --> 01:55:44.799
Brian Silveira: this was really the only sticking point. I think the neighbors, even back then, for the most part, were very supportive.

1075
01:55:45.130 --> 01:55:50.909
Brian Silveira: They were concerned about hours of operation, because it is sandwiched in in a residential neighborhood.

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01:55:51.240 --> 01:55:55.560
Brian Silveira: and prior to 2,013, if it's sort of been more of like a

1077
01:55:55.710 --> 01:55:58.580
Brian Silveira: convenience, store, delivery.

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01:55:58.710 --> 01:56:01.809
Brian Silveira: cigarettes, and single cans of beer that sort of thing.

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01:56:02.140 --> 01:56:11.029
Brian Silveira: So people just wanted. Neighbors wanted some sort of assurance that we were to do that in the future, and so we we limited the hours from

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Brian Silveira: 7, 30 am.

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01:56:12.670 --> 01:56:14.839
Brian Silveira: To 9 Pm. Every day.

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01:56:14.980 --> 01:56:19.009
Brian Silveira: although currently they only stay open until 8 Pm. But

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01:56:19.040 --> 01:56:21.200
Brian Silveira: 9 Pm. Is what's in the Grant.

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01:56:21.690 --> 01:56:26.689
Brian Silveira: and then the rear patio has to close at 7 Pm. Every day.

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Okay.

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01:56:28.180 --> 01:56:29.139
Brian Silveira: So

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01:56:33.740 --> 01:56:40.779
Brian Silveira: in terms of outreach we've we've been in touch with a lot of our neighbors. I I think that some of them may speak tonight.

1088
01:56:41.100 --> 01:56:46.119
Brian Silveira: but it in general, you know the markets really well like it's, you know, really

1089
01:56:46.560 --> 01:56:50.620
Brian Silveira: kind of captures that that neighborhood niche market thing.

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01:56:50.960 --> 01:57:02.839
Brian Silveira: The only issue that we've had in the past and and currently is with a family that lives opposite us on strong strive. That's the the house that you see in the photo.

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01:57:03.340 --> 01:57:07.130
Brian Silveira: because they have that that second floor patio

1092
01:57:07.330 --> 01:57:11.109
Brian Silveira: that patio faces the back of our building.

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01:57:11.380 --> 01:57:12.620
Brian Silveira: And and so

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01:57:12.710 --> 01:57:16.550
Brian Silveira: this family has is really been the focus of our outreach.

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01:57:16.630 --> 01:57:20.930
Brian Silveira: We were recently able to to come in an agreement with them that they would

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01:57:20.990 --> 01:57:27.199
Brian Silveira: continue to to support the project if we complied with some some very basic conditions

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01:57:27.410 --> 01:57:30.300
Brian Silveira: which which, of course, we agreed to do

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01:57:30.620 --> 01:57:31.590
Brian Silveira: so.

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01:57:32.220 --> 01:57:34.189
Brian Silveira: These are the conditions here.

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01:57:34.480 --> 01:57:39.729
Brian Silveira: you know. Most of them are just sort of, you know, an informal agreement

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01:57:39.870 --> 01:57:45.680
Brian Silveira: between us and the neighbors. These would not be the the types of conditions you would see on a grant.

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01:57:48.190 --> 01:57:49.179
Brian Silveira: Excuse me.

1103
01:57:49.230 --> 01:57:50.609
Brian Silveira: but they were.

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01:57:50.860 --> 01:57:58.120
Brian Silveira: They were concerned about noise, their speakers outside the play music during the day, so we agreed to rearrange them in such a way that

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01:57:58.690 --> 01:58:02.640
Brian Silveira: they wouldn't project sound.

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01:58:03.020 --> 01:58:05.959
Brian Silveira: We agreed to know live music on the patio

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01:58:06.050 --> 01:58:14.279
Brian Silveira: posting signage to, you know, just alert patrons to the fact that that their neighbors and we need to be conscious of noise.

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01:58:14.690 --> 01:58:24.410
Brian Silveira: They pointed out that the slamming of the trash bins at the end of the night, when they take out the trash was disruptive to the neighbors. And so we've. We've agreed to

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01:58:25.350 --> 01:58:27.209
Brian Silveira: to be conscious of that.

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01:58:27.620 --> 01:58:31.240
Brian Silveira: locking the side gate after we close every night.

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01:58:31.260 --> 01:58:35.229
Brian Silveira: and then for outdoor events that they do on the rear patio.

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01:58:35.250 --> 01:58:39.909
Brian Silveira: We agreed to provide notice and and to not play music at those events.

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01:58:40.730 --> 01:58:41.469
Brian Silveira: And

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01:58:42.820 --> 01:58:44.330
Brian Silveira: so that's

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01:58:47.250 --> 01:58:53.230
Brian Silveira: that's about it, and i'm happy to to talk you through the plans, or or answer any questions. But

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01:58:53.330 --> 01:58:55.750
Brian Silveira: I I just want to. I think I

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01:58:55.850 --> 01:59:01.679
Brian Silveira: yeah, I just. I just wanted to reiterate that this

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01:59:02.080 --> 01:59:11.620
Brian Silveira: this is a request to renew a use. That's been in place for 10 years. Not a new request, and not a modification of that request.

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01:59:12.580 --> 01:59:22.539
Michael Jensen: Thank you. Got it. Thanks. So i'll first ask if the Board has any committee has any clarifying questions to please raise your hand.

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Michael Jensen: I'm not seeing any hands.

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01:59:35.420 --> 01:59:36.190
Michael Jensen: Okay.

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01:59:36.470 --> 01:59:39.550
Michael Jensen: So i'm going to open it up to public comment

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01:59:39.950 --> 01:59:42.400
Michael Jensen: and

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01:59:43.420 --> 01:59:50.389
Michael Jensen: get that started. So just give me a second while we'll let the queue build for public comment, and I will

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Michael Jensen: get my newfangled stop watch

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01:59:53.300 --> 01:59:55.610
working here.

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01:59:57.330 --> 01:59:58.170
Michael Jensen: Okay.

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02:00:00.610 --> 02:00:02.579
Michael Jensen: Can people see a stopwatch?

1129
02:00:05.340 --> 02:00:06.769
jim murez: Oh, no!

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Michael Jensen: On my screen, still sharing Somebody's gotta kill Brian's screen. Oh.

1131
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Brian Silveira: i'll do that.

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jim murez: There you go now you got it, Mikkel

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02:00:19.500 --> 02:00:23.950
Michael Jensen: Great. Okay. Now, of course, my zoom window of participants disappeared.

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02:00:24.530 --> 02:00:27.200
Michael Jensen: So let's get that and

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look at the videos.

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Michael Jensen: Okay. So we will begin with. I have 1, 2, 3, 4,

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Michael Jensen: 5 hands up, beginning with Karen Lacava and ending with Julie Bean. You'll be the last commenter.

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02:00:47.140 --> 02:00:49.529
Michael Jensen: so Karen, go ahead.

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02:00:57.420 --> 02:00:59.189
Karen La Cava: Can you hear me?

1140
02:00:59.890 --> 02:01:00.880
Michael Jensen: Sure can.

1141
02:01:01.960 --> 02:01:03.589
Yes, just hear me.

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Karen La Cava: Okay. First of all, say that I am on the board of Directors. Okay, I'm: on the board of Directors, the Venice Chamber. I would just like to tell you that I've been a customer at

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Karen La Cava: New Delhi and Plant X since the opened, and I love it. I think it's a great, unique

1144
02:01:22.990 --> 02:01:29.430
Karen La Cava: place. There are no other places like this Venice. The patio is very

1145
02:01:30.050 --> 02:01:37.790
Karen La Cava: quiet and serene. It's really nice to go there a few times a week and work and just meet with friends.

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02:01:38.270 --> 02:01:45.490
Karen La Cava: They, I think they are a plus to the community. There's nothing like that in the immediate neighborhood also.

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02:01:46.460 --> 02:01:49.269
Karen La Cava: and

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02:01:49.910 --> 02:01:55.750
Karen La Cava: I do think some happen favor across the alley or restaurants

1149
02:01:55.920 --> 02:01:59.930
Karen La Cava: are a little extreme, but I like the fact that they're still willing to work with them.

1150
02:02:00.110 --> 02:02:06.130
Karen La Cava: and I really feel like it should be renewed. It's it's just a a plus for the community.

1151
02:02:07.480 --> 02:02:10.670
Karen La Cava: Yeah, I don't know what else to say.

1152
02:02:11.470 --> 02:02:15.130
Karen La Cava: If there's anything else you'd like me to say about this, I definitely can.

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02:02:17.410 --> 02:02:21.370
Michael Jensen: You don't have to use up all the time I reset I did it in 2 min. A person. But

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02:02:21.540 --> 02:02:22.349
okay.

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Karen La Cava: okay, yeah, no. I just. I just think this place should should definitely renew their their permit. They're awesome.

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02:02:30.620 --> 02:02:32.400
Michael Jensen: Great. Okay, thanks, Karen

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02:02:33.960 --> 02:02:35.360
Michael Jensen: Robin. You

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02:02:38.010 --> 02:02:40.370
Robin Murez: Hi: so

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02:02:40.750 --> 02:02:42.559
Robin Murez: yeah, it's a great little

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02:02:42.650 --> 02:02:44.270
neighborhood

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Robin Murez: market has been for years, and i'm not an immediately adjacent neighbor, so I can't speak to that. But as a neighbor who stops by there, it seems like they

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Robin Murez: really utilize the space well and make it keep it clean, and I know when we were fighting to sue K. Because it was so inappropriate. This was a site that was kind of the poster child, for how to do it. Right.

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Robin Murez: So that's all i'll say. Great presentation, Brian, and that's i'm just supporting it. That's all.

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Michael Jensen: Thank you, Robin

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Michael Jensen: Jeff Hoffman.

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Jeff Hoffman: Hey, there!

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Jeff Hoffman: I just wanted to say, I think that

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Jeff Hoffman: plant X. Vegan Park Pop is a neighborhood gem.

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Jeff Hoffman: We moved to Venice. I'm. I'm. In the canals. I literally. You can kind of see the corner, my property, and the upper part of the picture that Brian showed the

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02:03:48.040 --> 02:03:52.649
Jeff Hoffman: we. We go there at about once a week.

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Jeff Hoffman: and it's very convenient. I would hate to see it go.

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Jeff Hoffman: In fact, it's it's really one of the reasons we chose the canals. It's it's just very, you know. It's easy to get stuff, and we enjoy

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02:04:05.150 --> 02:04:07.619
Jeff Hoffman: hanging out on their patio. And and

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Jeff Hoffman: yeah definitely support

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02:04:10.710 --> 02:04:11.700
Jeff Hoffman: support them.

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Jeff Hoffman: Can you hear me.

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Michael Jensen: Yeah, Sorry. I just didn't have the timer going.

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02:04:16.800 --> 02:04:18.879
Jeff Hoffman: No worries. Yeah, that

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02:04:19.120 --> 02:04:22.620
Jeff Hoffman: I it, you know, wholeheartedly support their renewal.

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02:04:25.380 --> 02:04:26.759
Michael Jensen: Okay, Thank you. Chef.

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Jeff Hoffman: You bet

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02:04:30.690 --> 02:04:33.260
Michael Jensen: Sunny Fox.

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02:04:42.360 --> 02:04:43.949
Michael Jensen: Tony, you have to on mute.

1184
02:04:51.850 --> 02:04:53.290
Sunny Bak: Hi, there! Sorry.

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02:04:54.060 --> 02:04:56.660
Sunny Bak: Yup, i'm here. Sorry

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Sunny Bak: my name is Sunny Bach. I'm a

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Sunny Bak: local I live on. I've lived on the block since 1,995,

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02:05:07.080 --> 02:05:13.710
Sunny Bak: and I used to patronize sales way back then, and have missed cells.

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02:05:13.760 --> 02:05:19.210
Sunny Bak: So i'm very happy that this business has been there the last few years, and

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02:05:19.470 --> 02:05:21.930
Sunny Bak: they have been really great neighbors.

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02:05:23.510 --> 02:05:28.269
Sunny Bak: and a wonderful business, so I totally support them.

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02:05:28.290 --> 02:05:33.699
Sunny Bak: I'm currently serving as the Venice Chamber of Commerce, President. I've been on the Vnc.

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02:05:33.990 --> 02:05:37.710
Sunny Bak: Board before, and I do an event called the Venice Arc.

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02:05:37.740 --> 02:05:42.039
Sunny Bak: and they've been very supportive of that, too, and their members of the Chamber.

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02:05:42.180 --> 02:05:43.580
Sunny Bak: and

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Sunny Bak: I support them. Thank you.

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02:05:46.330 --> 02:05:47.470
Sunny Bak: I wait my time.

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02:05:48.360 --> 02:05:49.469
Michael Jensen: Thank you, Sonny

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Julie Bean.

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Julie Bean: Hi! It's actually Allie being Julie's mother in law. I'm here with my grandson and Julie. I just drop by, and I was listening to the beginning of Lupe with her, too. I just wanna say, as does Julie, that we too, patronize this place.

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02:06:10.450 --> 02:06:16.820
Julie Bean: But mostly I want to compliment Brian Silvera. I just think he's he's the kind of developer that we

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02:06:16.880 --> 02:06:19.290
Julie Bean: appreciate so much in Venice.

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02:06:20.410 --> 02:06:28.780
Julie Bean: as Robin said, you know, to suit. It was sort of a nightmare, because they didn't communicate with the the neighbors, and Brian

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02:06:29.290 --> 02:06:35.700
Julie Bean: is the opposite. He communicated with all of us, and got a very difficult project passed by

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02:06:35.960 --> 02:06:38.709
Julie Bean: complicated people like me and Julie, who.

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02:06:38.840 --> 02:06:43.829
Julie Bean: you know, when you have an outdoor patio like they do with this

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02:06:44.230 --> 02:06:48.600
Julie Bean: store you, it's very important that you get the neighbors to.

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02:06:48.860 --> 02:06:57.459
Julie Bean: I agree with the hours, and with the noise level and everything. And then everybody's so happy because we all love having a market in our neighborhood. Everybody does.

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02:06:57.540 --> 02:07:13.240
Julie Bean: but not if it's gonna be disruptive, like like to seek you was gonna be so this is just the kind of thing that's such a great example of. An you know someone like Brian, an architect. I I are you an architect, brand or developer? I don't know what you call you. But

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02:07:13.250 --> 02:07:20.809
Julie Bean: but you're you're really wonderful in Community outreach. And so you know, we totally support this as a kind of

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02:07:20.880 --> 02:07:29.560
Julie Bean: multi-generational family here and Julie's house with a grandmother and a great grand, another grandmother and my grandson.

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Julie Bean: I'm over.

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Michael Jensen: Thank you.

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02:07:36.400 --> 02:07:38.150
Michael Jensen: Alli and Julie.

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Michael Jensen: Okay.

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jim murez: committee. Sorry, Jim. Of course, you know. I I just want to say that I'm. I'm glad. Brian recognizes that I did a very good job 10 years ago, and making sure that the conditions were right, that it fit into the community proper, and and to that I will let the rest of my time go. Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Thank you, Jim.

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02:08:18.830 --> 02:08:20.209
Michael Jensen: Committee. Discussion.

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02:08:34.780 --> 02:08:36.700
Michael Jensen: Cj: Public comments closed.

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02:08:50.790 --> 02:08:52.300
Michael Jensen: No one from the committee.

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02:08:52.400 --> 02:08:54.220
Michael Jensen: Do we have a motion?

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02:08:54.350 --> 02:08:57.290
barrycassilly: I think we all like Vegans. Let us make a motion.

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02:08:57.840 --> 02:09:01.599
Michael Jensen: Okay, Mary, go ahead.

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02:09:02.550 --> 02:09:06.639
barrycassilly: Right. Move that. We approve the

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02:09:06.700 --> 02:09:09.249
barrycassilly: to reapprove the project as presented.

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02:09:10.550 --> 02:09:13.849
Michael Jensen: Yeah, I would maybe suggest that we also just include the

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Michael Jensen: findings for

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02:09:17.670 --> 02:09:18.950
Michael Jensen: experiences.

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barrycassilly: Okay.

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02:09:21.220 --> 02:09:22.580
Michael Jensen: So I will

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02:09:22.710 --> 02:09:24.390
Michael Jensen: just add the

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02:09:25.650 --> 02:09:27.069
Michael Jensen: let me.

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jim murez: You still have the clock on the screen.

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02:09:30.750 --> 02:09:33.250
Michael Jensen: Yeah, I know. I'm: I'm working on that now.

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02:09:33.970 --> 02:09:35.080
Michael Jensen: Oh.

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02:09:35.150 --> 02:09:36.200
Michael Jensen: and it's.

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02:09:38.680 --> 02:09:40.929
Michael Jensen: okay. So we've got

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02:09:54.210 --> 02:09:55.429
Michael Jensen: okay.

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02:09:56.240 --> 02:09:58.119
Michael Jensen: Barry, Would you like to read the motion?

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barrycassilly: Okay.

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02:10:03.660 --> 02:10:07.390
barrycassilly: with the following findings that the strict application of the provisions

1242
02:10:08.870 --> 02:10:10.059
barrycassilly: Wait a minute.

1243
02:10:10.410 --> 02:10:11.869
barrycassilly: We already read all this.

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02:10:12.260 --> 02:10:16.189
Michael Jensen: No, this is, for this is different from the last one.

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02:10:16.390 --> 02:10:24.389
barrycassilly: the result in practical difficulties or unnecessary hardships inconsistent with the general purpose and intent of the joining regulations.

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02:10:24.450 --> 02:10:25.260
barrycassilly: 2,

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02:10:25.300 --> 02:10:27.510
barrycassilly: that there are special circumstances

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02:10:27.710 --> 02:10:28.780
barrycassilly: applicable

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02:10:29.060 --> 02:10:32.789
barrycassilly: to the subject property, such as size, topography, location.

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02:10:32.800 --> 02:10:49.119
barrycassilly: or surroundings, that do not apply generally to other property in the same zone or and vicinity, that the variance is necessary for the preservation and enjoyment of substantial property, right or use, generally possessed by other property in the same zone, and but which

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02:10:49.320 --> 02:10:57.150
barrycassilly: such, because of such special circumstances and practical difficulties or unnecessary hardships, is denied

1252
02:10:57.340 --> 02:10:58.850
barrycassilly: to the property in question.

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02:10:59.510 --> 02:11:10.170
barrycassilly: that the granting of the variance will not be material, detrimental to the public welfare, or injurious to the property or improvements in the same zone or vicinity in which the property is located

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02:11:10.240 --> 02:11:14.750
barrycassilly: that the granting of such variance will not inversely affect any element of the general plan.

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02:11:20.670 --> 02:11:21.740
Michael Jensen: Can I get a second?

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02:11:23.420 --> 02:11:24.599
corinne Baginski: I'll: Second

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corinne Baginski: Kevin.

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Okay, Thank you.

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02:11:29.930 --> 02:11:33.890
Michael Jensen: Okay. So let me do a vote here, Barry.

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barrycassilly: Yes.

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02:11:35.490 --> 02:11:38.019
Michael Jensen: Karen

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02:11:38.090 --> 02:11:38.910
Michael Jensen: Jeff.

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02:11:39.100 --> 02:11:40.000
Jeff Martin: Yes.

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02:11:40.400 --> 02:11:41.420
Michael Jensen: Lauren.

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02:11:41.730 --> 02:11:42.559
Yes.

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02:11:43.730 --> 02:11:45.710
Michael Jensen: there you go, Chris.

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02:11:45.960 --> 02:11:46.950
Christopher McLean: Yes.

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02:11:47.300 --> 02:11:48.320
Michael Jensen: Matthew.

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02:11:49.100 --> 02:11:49.910
Matthew Royce: Yes.

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02:11:50.020 --> 02:11:50.980
Michael Jensen: my news.

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Michael Jensen: I'm: sorry. Yes.

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02:11:58.050 --> 02:12:01.340
Michael Jensen: okay, and I will also vote. Gas motion carries.

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02:12:03.720 --> 02:12:06.679
Michael Jensen: Thanks, Brian. You'll be on February

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02:12:07.160 --> 02:12:12.120
Michael Jensen: on the Consent calendar. I'm not sure if anyone will will pull it or not. But

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02:12:13.600 --> 02:12:15.110
Michael Jensen: you know, stay tuned.

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02:12:15.580 --> 02:12:22.289
Brian Silveira: Thank you. And yeah, thank you to everyone who called in really really appreciate the support.

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02:12:22.840 --> 02:12:23.840
Brian Silveira: Thanks, guys.

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02:12:26.040 --> 02:12:30.080
Michael Jensen: Okay. So i'm going to demote

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02:12:31.160 --> 02:12:35.719
Michael Jensen: 2 to 10. D. No. Because he's gone.

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02:12:35.840 --> 02:12:40.159
Michael Jensen: Okay. So we've got motion

1281
02:12:40.210 --> 02:12:41.700
Michael Jensen: requesting it

1282
02:12:41.890 --> 02:12:47.609
Michael Jensen: invalidation of the de minimis waiver for Venice Life card station. This was brought to me by

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02:12:49.910 --> 02:12:57.659
Michael Jensen: by Robin, you as Robin. I'm just gonna real quick, because we may be able to save time here. Given your questions, Jeff Cow earlier. This meeting

1284
02:12:59.690 --> 02:13:04.250
Michael Jensen: did you wanna continue with this? And I'll just you can chime in real quick.

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02:13:05.500 --> 02:13:16.070
Robin Murez: you know I that was kind of the question that I, when I brought it to you, I also asked. It just seems outrageous that the State California Coastal Commission

1286
02:13:16.140 --> 02:13:19.649
Robin Murez: refused to invalidate it. When I asked personally

1287
02:13:19.780 --> 02:13:28.130
Robin Murez: pointing out, knowing that they a issued it based on false information, materially false information, you know, issuing

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02:13:28.250 --> 02:13:39.630
Robin Murez: a de minimis waiver to an entity that does not own the property, and with the claim that it is at the end of its life, when the report shows that it

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Robin Murez: has no structural deficiency I just want to do. Do you want to proceed with this or not? You know I I really would love to hear also, maybe, what the committee thinks I just don't know. It just seems pretty easy to leave it on the so we'll we'll proceed, and I will do. You want to give a summary here, or would you like me to?

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02:13:59.610 --> 02:14:05.159
Michael Jensen: Okay. So i'll. I'll just summarize this real quick. Thanks, Robin.

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02:14:05.560 --> 02:14:06.360
Michael Jensen: So

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02:14:06.990 --> 02:14:12.700
Michael Jensen: the Coastal Commission granted a a waiver to

1293
02:14:13.100 --> 02:14:20.990
Michael Jensen: the county of Los Angeles for demolition of the Tower of the that's the third floor of the Lifeguard Station down

1294
02:14:21.140 --> 02:14:23.749
Michael Jensen: at Venice, and.

1295
02:14:24.850 --> 02:14:33.209
Michael Jensen: in fact, the city of Los Angeles, owns that property, and leases it per dollar a year to the county. They have a sort of

1296
02:14:34.730 --> 02:14:36.320
Michael Jensen: a

1297
02:14:36.640 --> 02:14:41.299
Michael Jensen: an agreement in terms of maintenance, and.

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02:14:41.530 --> 02:14:44.780
Michael Jensen: you know, storage of county vehicles to do that

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02:14:44.880 --> 02:14:46.650
Michael Jensen: for it. And

1300
02:14:47.620 --> 02:14:57.370
Michael Jensen: in the county's application to demolish it. They stated one that they had the authority to do so, which does not appear to be

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02:14:57.500 --> 02:15:01.600
Michael Jensen: part of their, You know, lease agreement with the

1302
02:15:01.790 --> 02:15:06.020
Michael Jensen: with the city, but also that they, you know they they

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02:15:06.660 --> 02:15:10.039
Michael Jensen: It was in disrepair, and was beyond its useful life.

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02:15:10.430 --> 02:15:11.670
Michael Jensen: So

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02:15:12.440 --> 02:15:18.670
Michael Jensen: the issue is here. Why did coastal issue this? And whether or not we want to

1306
02:15:19.040 --> 02:15:22.130
Michael Jensen: put them on. Notice that, hey, you guys should reject it, or you should

1307
02:15:22.830 --> 02:15:26.650
Michael Jensen: invalidate that waiver because it was granted under.

1308
02:15:27.070 --> 02:15:30.350
Michael Jensen: You know, omissions of fact, and and

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02:15:32.400 --> 02:15:36.850
Michael Jensen: and due to that it should, you know, just on its face, be invalidated.

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02:15:37.340 --> 02:15:41.859
Michael Jensen: So I am. Does anybody anybody on the committee have any questions.

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02:15:45.000 --> 02:15:47.030
barrycassilly: I don't have a question, but like

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02:15:47.560 --> 02:15:52.489
Michael Jensen: well, I just want. I want the questions, and then i'll I'll open it to public comment, and

1313
02:15:52.700 --> 02:15:56.880
Michael Jensen: we can also have a discussion as to whether or not we want to actually pass a formal motion on this

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given

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Michael Jensen: Jeff. Cal. In the beginning of this set. It may not.

1316
02:16:01.730 --> 02:16:03.700
Michael Jensen: You know that may or may not be a good idea.

1317
02:16:03.720 --> 02:16:10.809
jim murez: Can I ask a quick question? There's a audience with a a Zg. Initial Zack.

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02:16:10.940 --> 02:16:15.629
jim murez: and and there's also a guy that works for the County Supervisor, whose name is Zach

1319
02:16:15.870 --> 02:16:20.820
jim murez: Sd. 3 on it. I don't know if that's a public official or not.

1320
02:16:21.330 --> 02:16:22.420
Michael Jensen: Well, let's

1321
02:16:23.150 --> 02:16:24.050
Michael Jensen: Zach.

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02:16:24.850 --> 02:16:40.280
Zac Gaidzik SD3: Hi! Yes, this is Zachary guides it with supervisorial district, 3 Lindsey Horvas office, and I was also previously with Supervisor Sheila. He's office for the past 4 years.

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Zac Gaidzik SD3: and so I saw this motion was on the agenda for tonight, so I wanted to jump on, just to be able to provide any questions that the committee may have just about it, and I also just wanted to say that I saw this

1324
02:16:54.690 --> 02:17:03.860
Zac Gaidzik SD3: was surprised to see that there were these omissions, and so I sent those to the beaches and harbor department as well, so that that can be looked at.

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02:17:03.959 --> 02:17:06.789
Zac Gaidzik SD3: looked at getting that corrected

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02:17:06.959 --> 02:17:22.020
Zac Gaidzik SD3: just in general. But basically I just wanted to let you know that i'm here to answer any questions that you may have, and also to reaffirm what Jeff said, that we're working much more closely with the new Council Members Office on this, and more properly

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02:17:22.030 --> 02:17:28.210
Zac Gaidzik SD3: examining the feasibility of the site, and making sure that we're all on the same page before any demolition does happen.

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02:17:31.600 --> 02:17:32.930
Michael Jensen: if that

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02:17:33.219 --> 02:17:46.529
Michael Jensen: well, I mean, I think it may open up just more questions. But I think what i'm going to do. I appreciate you you attending especially because i'm I to know we're just on your radar. So, thanks for taking the time

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02:17:46.770 --> 02:17:52.819
Michael Jensen: I want to open it up to public comment. Do you? Are you able to stick around in case there's questions you might be able to answer.

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02:17:53.430 --> 02:18:23.409
Zac Gaidzik SD3: Yes, I will be sticking around here for the for the for this item also just one thing that I did want to remind members of, because there seems to, you know, I don't think everybody remembers but the reason why the Department of Beaches in harbor was going forward with demolishing the tower was because back in 2,019, the Ocean Front Walk Committee and the Venice Neighborhood Council Board passed a motion specifically asking a beaches in Harvard

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02:18:23.420 --> 02:18:40.330
Zac Gaidzik SD3: to look at either re having the Tower, and if that's unfeasible to look at demolishing it, so that initial impetus actually came from the Vnc. But I will also say that there was definitely a breakdown in communication over the past 3 years where there may have been a minor global pandemic.

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02:18:40.340 --> 02:18:44.370
Zac Gaidzik SD3: but that's no excuse. And so I do also just want to apologize for that.

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Michael Jensen: Yes, I'll be here to answer any questions you may have. Great thanks. So i'm going to open it up to public comment.

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02:18:51.219 --> 02:18:58.209
Michael Jensen: and while i'm getting i'll just let that queue build while i'm getting my clock out here.

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02:19:10.719 --> 02:19:11.920
Michael Jensen: Okay.

1337
02:19:12.750 --> 02:19:14.369
Michael Jensen: everybody see a clock now.

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Michael Jensen: Yes, Great. All right.

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02:19:20.459 --> 02:19:29.069
Michael Jensen: Robin. I'm gonna end with you just because you've already spoken so. And I see i'm just gonna z that lower your hand. So I

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02:19:30.100 --> 02:19:30.699
Okay.

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All right. Lower.

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02:19:35.139 --> 02:19:36.280
Michael Jensen: Nope, I guess not.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, Shawn O'brien, Cj: Call Sunny Back

1344
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Michael Jensen: and Robin. Those are the 4 hands. I see. Robin will end with you, Shawn. O'brien, Go ahead.

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Sean Obrien: Yeah, I just wanted to say I support the motion. I support Robin's efforts. Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: That's for brevity. Thanks, Shawn.

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02:19:58.530 --> 02:19:59.510
Michael Jensen: Cj.

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CJ Cole: Likewise, I just want to support it. Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: And

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Michael Jensen: Sunny

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Sunny Bak: Hi! I

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Sunny Bak: i'm! Actually with my girlfriend, who has a view of

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02:20:22.850 --> 02:20:26.870
Sunny Bak: the lifeguard tower from her bedroom window.

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02:20:27.050 --> 02:20:29.839
Sunny Bak: and we just I

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Sunny Bak: like the building as an iconic

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Sunny Bak: Venice

1357
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Sunny Bak: landmark, and she would like to see it demolished, and have a view of the ocean, and that's and she thinks it's ugly

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Sunny Bak: and useless. Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Okay.

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Michael Jensen: all right. And Robin

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Robin Murez: Hi: so

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Robin Murez: yeah, the Venice Neighborhood Council

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Robin Murez: Ocean Front Walk committee had been in touch with beaches and harbors, and the concern was, they wanted the whole property, the entire building to be repaired. The whole building is in disrepair.

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Robin Murez: This notion of doing the demolition of the tower I've I've received. I did a request for public documents, and it's something that was conjured up by the staff of beaches and harbors. The Commissioners of beaches and Harbors did ask if it could be repaired, if it could, if they didn't need to use it if it could be given back to the city.

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02:21:34.300 --> 02:21:37.410
Robin Murez: The only way this has

1366
02:21:37.520 --> 02:21:52.509
Robin Murez: with that we have stopped the demolition is by digging out the true documents that state that the ownership is city, and that it is not in what is it? No structural deficiencies?

1367
02:21:52.530 --> 02:21:56.869
Robin Murez: And it is historic and iconic. It is recognized as such.

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02:21:56.990 --> 02:22:11.199
Robin Murez: It's it the Department of Reckon Parks. We got the correct information to them. They were actually the staff there had been fooled by the false information. The the person who was

1369
02:22:11.210 --> 02:22:24.159
Robin Murez: the project manager I just learned last night has since been transferred. He was, he and his supervisor went on to reckon Parks, and tried to give this false information.

1370
02:22:24.250 --> 02:22:28.079
Robin Murez: They've given it to all kinds of departments within the city, but

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02:22:28.220 --> 02:22:40.139
Robin Murez: we were able to find out and get the truthful just the documents that show the truth. So oh, am I still speaking?

1372
02:22:40.250 --> 02:22:44.210
Robin Murez: Okay. So, anyway, what concerns me is when

1373
02:22:44.290 --> 02:22:53.110
Robin Murez: the Coastal Commission refused to invalidate, based on their own rules that are stated at the top of that waiver.

1374
02:22:53.170 --> 02:23:05.019
Robin Murez: They said to me, so county could demolish at any time the city to say no, but it just is worrisome that something so erroneous would be

1375
02:23:07.850 --> 02:23:09.949
Michael Jensen: okay Committee.

1376
02:23:14.750 --> 02:23:15.470
Hmm.

1377
02:23:20.510 --> 02:23:22.670
barrycassilly: I just want to know, like

1378
02:23:23.810 --> 02:23:27.250
barrycassilly: maybe we should ask the person from the Supervisor's office

1379
02:23:27.440 --> 02:23:29.619
barrycassilly: is passing a motion like this.

1380
02:23:29.680 --> 02:23:31.619
barrycassilly: It seems like Jeff

1381
02:23:31.780 --> 02:23:35.730
barrycassilly: and other people were saying it was essentially irrelevant at this point.

1382
02:23:36.040 --> 02:23:39.020
barrycassilly: If we pass it, Are we going to waste a lot of people's time?

1383
02:23:40.570 --> 02:23:45.460
Michael Jensen: I think, At this point we're not we've we've already gone through the public comment phase. This

1384
02:23:45.530 --> 02:23:49.670
Michael Jensen: I think my I mean here's what I would say is

1385
02:23:50.090 --> 02:23:54.650
Michael Jensen: we can decide to pass or not pass this motion if we pass it.

1386
02:23:54.760 --> 02:24:02.739
Michael Jensen: I I mean, I think I would simply ask that we get some kind of confirmation that the county is voluntarily

1387
02:24:03.060 --> 02:24:05.060
Michael Jensen: withdrawn, the

1388
02:24:05.150 --> 02:24:08.389
Michael Jensen: exemption request, or the Waiver request.

1389
02:24:08.580 --> 02:24:11.860
Michael Jensen: and if that's the case, and we don't need to waste time, bring it to the board.

1390
02:24:11.980 --> 02:24:20.889
Michael Jensen: But at least, if we pass it through committee, then there's the opportunity for that to go to the board, and if by then we get the you know.

1391
02:24:22.840 --> 02:24:23.699
Michael Jensen: we get

1392
02:24:23.890 --> 02:24:26.200
Michael Jensen: proof that it's been withdrawn or

1393
02:24:26.320 --> 02:24:27.409
Michael Jensen: or cancelled.

1394
02:24:27.640 --> 02:24:28.530
Michael Jensen: Then

1395
02:24:28.610 --> 02:24:30.399
Michael Jensen: you know, I think that's sufficient.

1396
02:24:30.600 --> 02:24:32.140
barrycassilly: Is that a motion

1397
02:24:34.940 --> 02:24:39.799
Michael Jensen: it can be? I see Zach's hands up so i'll just let him go ahead. Zach.

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02:24:40.790 --> 02:24:52.480
Zac Gaidzik SD3: so I will just say that you know you've already brought this to the depend the to the attention of the Supervisor's office, and I'm bringing this back to beaches and Harbor to figure out

1399
02:24:52.670 --> 02:24:55.009
Zac Gaidzik SD3: what exactly happened here.

1400
02:24:55.020 --> 02:25:17.530
Zac Gaidzik SD3: So there's already that communication that's going to happen. I don't think that there's any harm if you do choose to pass this Wilson. But I just want to make sure that you have the awareness that sometimes you just have to give us a call, and we can respond immediately to that. And I also want to clarify, though, that the Venice Neighborhood Council in 2,019, specifically says.

1401
02:25:17.560 --> 02:25:29.980
Zac Gaidzik SD3: to remove the top level of the Lifeguard tower to resolve this issue. 10 D on page 6 that I got from the Nc's website, just just for the record

1402
02:25:29.990 --> 02:25:43.179
Zac Gaidzik SD3: want to be clear, but totally understand people's concerns. There's a lot of passion around this project, and obviously opinions have changed in the last 4 years. That was a different board. Sorry to cut you off, but that was a you know

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02:25:43.570 --> 02:25:45.880
Michael Jensen: they're very different, so

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02:25:46.590 --> 02:25:52.110
Michael Jensen: all bets are off. But I appreciate the context. Do you know that what was the day to that meeting?

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02:25:53.040 --> 02:25:56.650
Zac Gaidzik SD3: That was in June

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02:25:56.700 --> 02:26:04.879
Zac Gaidzik SD3: seventeenth of 2,019, and the Ocean full Walk committee passed it in May of 2,019.

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02:26:05.860 --> 02:26:06.670
Michael Jensen: Okay?

1408
02:26:13.080 --> 02:26:20.529
Michael Jensen: Well, with that in mind. So I, Zack, I think I I mean i'm in. I'm. Inclined to entertain a motion on this, and then.

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02:26:20.740 --> 02:26:27.240
Michael Jensen: if you know, feel free to email me at my info on the on the Vnc. Page.

1410
02:26:27.510 --> 02:26:28.660
Michael Jensen: and

1411
02:26:28.930 --> 02:26:32.960
Michael Jensen: if you want to update me on where this.

1412
02:26:33.300 --> 02:26:42.599
Michael Jensen: where this is, with with the withdrawing it, or whatever then we we, you know, that may just mean we can avoid bringing this to the Nancy Board.

1413
02:26:43.110 --> 02:26:44.420
Michael Jensen: At least

1414
02:26:44.590 --> 02:26:49.280
Michael Jensen: deal with it quickly. But let's see if there's a there's a motion out there

1415
02:26:49.790 --> 02:26:50.759
Michael Jensen: from the committee.

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02:26:51.530 --> 02:26:52.490
barrycassilly: Nope.

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02:26:57.160 --> 02:27:02.689
Michael Jensen: Okay, so Barry Doesn't have a motion. I mean, there's a motion up, does it? Does someone want to make this motion?

1418
02:27:13.530 --> 02:27:16.269
Matthew Royce: Now I'll i'll. I'll make the motion. That's great.

1419
02:27:16.310 --> 02:27:18.039
Matthew Royce: Alright. Thanks, Matt.

1420
02:27:18.580 --> 02:27:20.269
Can I get a second?

1421
02:27:22.960 --> 02:27:24.409
Jeff Martin: I I'll say, yeah.

1422
02:27:25.180 --> 02:27:27.139
Michael Jensen: Thanks. Yeah.

1423
02:27:32.680 --> 02:27:36.150
Michael Jensen: Okay. So we'll go through and

1424
02:27:36.350 --> 02:27:38.239
Michael Jensen: you roll call. Vote on this.

1425
02:27:39.110 --> 02:27:39.970
Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yes.

1426
02:27:40.830 --> 02:27:41.660
okay.

1427
02:27:41.840 --> 02:27:43.109
Matt.

1428
02:27:43.380 --> 02:27:44.190
Matthew Royce: Yes.

1429
02:27:45.040 --> 02:27:45.850
Michael Jensen: Correct.

1430
02:27:46.280 --> 02:27:47.130
corinne Baginski: Yes.

1431
02:27:47.930 --> 02:27:49.960
Jeff Martin: Jeff: Yes.

1432
02:27:50.360 --> 02:27:51.160
Michael Jensen: Chris.

1433
02:27:55.840 --> 02:27:56.890
Michael Jensen: Chris

1434
02:27:56.920 --> 02:27:58.760
Michael Jensen: Lauren.

1435
02:28:00.100 --> 02:28:01.050
Yes.

1436
02:28:01.720 --> 02:28:02.539
Michael Jensen: Barry.

1437
02:28:02.670 --> 02:28:03.520
Yes.

1438
02:28:04.770 --> 02:28:05.680
Michael Jensen: Chris.

1439
02:28:06.080 --> 02:28:08.540
Michael Jensen: Going once

1440
02:28:08.930 --> 02:28:10.940
Michael Jensen: for your upstanding.

1441
02:28:11.290 --> 02:28:16.770
Michael Jensen: Yeah, okay. So it'll be. I'll I'll vote. Yes, for this. It'll be 7

1442
02:28:17.090 --> 02:28:18.119
Michael Jensen: 0,

1443
02:28:18.590 --> 02:28:20.240
Michael Jensen: one

1444
02:28:20.370 --> 02:28:22.169
Michael Jensen: 0. I think it's the second one.

1445
02:28:28.130 --> 02:28:28.970
Michael Jensen: Okay.

1446
02:28:30.290 --> 02:28:32.190
Michael Jensen: thank you. Everyone

1447
02:28:32.310 --> 02:28:35.750
Michael Jensen: moving on motion carries.

1448
02:28:36.060 --> 02:28:43.360
Michael Jensen: We are on to 12, and I'm. I'm sorry this is the last. So this will be the last thing we vote on tonight.

1449
02:28:43.520 --> 02:28:48.389
Michael Jensen: but i'm hoping, since this is now the third or fourth time. It's coming before us.

1450
02:28:48.460 --> 02:28:50.500
Michael Jensen: We can go through rather quickly.

1451
02:28:52.250 --> 02:28:55.110
Michael Jensen: So for background

1452
02:28:55.400 --> 02:29:02.529
Michael Jensen: for the people who are new here, we've had for now a few years. I guess it's been

1453
02:29:02.770 --> 02:29:12.109
Michael Jensen: to 2 years and some change or 2 years draft concepts from the planning department on Changes to the community plan and the local coastal program, or at least like

1454
02:29:12.550 --> 02:29:16.189
Michael Jensen: the community plan portion of it

1455
02:29:17.700 --> 02:29:27.830
Michael Jensen: we have we? We had an initial meeting. I think it was 2 months ago to take in public comment on, like the Lincoln Boulevard Commercial Corridor.

1456
02:29:28.280 --> 02:29:30.320
We then discuss sort of

1457
02:29:30.350 --> 02:29:32.769
Michael Jensen: potential concepts on

1458
02:29:33.360 --> 02:29:35.690
Michael Jensen: height restrictions, zoning

1459
02:29:35.960 --> 02:29:41.570
Michael Jensen: to create affordable or not just affordable, but to create housing

1460
02:29:41.700 --> 02:29:44.879
Michael Jensen: and density to meet the arena. Numbers

1461
02:29:45.050 --> 02:29:55.979
Michael Jensen: put out by the Southern California Association of Governments. Reina, of course, stands for regional housing needs assessment and is mandated by State lot and has to become part of our

1462
02:29:56.660 --> 02:30:00.240
Michael Jensen: housing element that goes into our community plans. So

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02:30:00.320 --> 02:30:02.639
with that background in mind.

1464
02:30:02.720 --> 02:30:08.869
Michael Jensen: Last meeting we had sort of blanks filled into

1465
02:30:08.920 --> 02:30:10.449
Michael Jensen: some of the

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02:30:11.320 --> 02:30:12.639
the heights.

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02:30:12.780 --> 02:30:21.409
Michael Jensen: and so I have now the motion filled in. I'll try and put it on one page, so read it at once.

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02:30:23.310 --> 02:30:24.789
Michael Jensen: We'll do that.

1469
02:30:25.260 --> 02:30:27.050
Michael Jensen: Okay. Everyone can see this.

1470
02:30:29.050 --> 02:30:34.950
Michael Jensen: So I think to start. We'll do. Are there any clarifying questions from the committee?

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02:30:35.230 --> 02:30:42.520
Michael Jensen: And I'm. Jeff. I'm glad you're here because you were one of the sources or the great resources for

1472
02:30:42.650 --> 02:30:44.499
Michael Jensen: this sort of step down concept.

1473
02:30:44.670 --> 02:30:46.280
Michael Jensen: So

1474
02:30:47.650 --> 02:30:53.809
Michael Jensen: yeah, if you, if you remember our our our meeting a few months ago on this.

1475
02:30:54.220 --> 02:30:57.139
Michael Jensen: we're trying to incorporate those into this motion.

1476
02:30:57.260 --> 02:31:03.990
Michael Jensen: But okay, so we'll do a show of hands. Barry has his hand up first, and if there's any other committee clarifying questions.

1477
02:31:05.970 --> 02:31:10.070
Michael Jensen: let's let's get to those so very go ahead.

1478
02:31:10.300 --> 02:31:15.760
barrycassilly: I have a clarification, but it's not a question. I think it's extremely important

1479
02:31:16.070 --> 02:31:21.669
barrycassilly: that people understand, especially people who might not have been in most of the meetings

1480
02:31:22.230 --> 02:31:23.910
barrycassilly: that

1481
02:31:24.160 --> 02:31:25.959
barrycassilly: we've heard the community.

1482
02:31:26.530 --> 02:31:34.170
barrycassilly: and their desire to have as little impact as possible on single family neighborhoods

1483
02:31:34.240 --> 02:31:40.560
barrycassilly: in meeting our obligation to hit our Re Arena targets.

1484
02:31:42.630 --> 02:31:49.620
barrycassilly: and we, and also we realize that if we do not make a good faith effort as a community

1485
02:31:49.900 --> 02:31:56.420
barrycassilly: to come up with a plan for meeting those targets. A plan will be imposed upon us.

1486
02:31:56.920 --> 02:31:58.500
so

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02:31:59.450 --> 02:32:03.909
barrycassilly: we're most of what we've been doing is looking at commercial corridors

1488
02:32:03.990 --> 02:32:05.480
barrycassilly: in the Venice area

1489
02:32:05.880 --> 02:32:07.890
barrycassilly: like trying to find ways

1490
02:32:07.910 --> 02:32:12.269
barrycassilly: or those streets to absorb most of the new housing.

1491
02:32:12.310 --> 02:32:18.290
barrycassilly: I personally disagree with that approach. However, in

1492
02:32:18.420 --> 02:32:24.819
barrycassilly: it's it's what, what? Where? We've arrived in trying to find a common ground

1493
02:32:24.870 --> 02:32:28.840
barrycassilly: to make people as happy as possible

1494
02:32:29.000 --> 02:32:40.019
barrycassilly: in the community. So I I I think it's very important that people understand. That is, it is in that context of trying to achieve balance and to listen to everyone

1495
02:32:40.290 --> 02:32:43.060
barrycassilly: and respect their concerns

1496
02:32:43.250 --> 02:32:48.220
barrycassilly: that that we are here tonight with these specific proposals. That's all.

1497
02:32:49.240 --> 02:32:51.330
Michael Jensen: Thanks, Barry. I appreciate that context.

1498
02:32:52.400 --> 02:32:53.790
Michael Jensen: Any other questions.

1499
02:33:02.310 --> 02:33:06.249
Michael Jensen: No. So i'm going to open it up to public comment then.

1500
02:33:08.820 --> 02:33:12.030
Michael Jensen: and I see 2 hands so far.

1501
02:33:12.400 --> 02:33:15.369
Michael Jensen: It's gonna take me a minute to let me get my

1502
02:33:15.470 --> 02:33:17.099
Michael Jensen: stop watch out here.

1503
02:33:17.560 --> 02:33:19.380
Michael Jensen: Can you guys still see the stop watch.

1504
02:33:20.500 --> 02:33:22.060
Michael Jensen: Yes.

1505
02:33:22.100 --> 02:33:22.920
Michael Jensen: Okay.

1506
02:33:23.170 --> 02:33:24.920
Michael Jensen: Cool. So we have

1507
02:33:25.680 --> 02:33:29.750
Michael Jensen: 1, 2, 3, 4 hands.

1508
02:33:32.960 --> 02:33:35.060
Michael Jensen: I see 4 hands so far.

1509
02:33:39.400 --> 02:33:40.150
jim murez: Okay.

1510
02:33:40.330 --> 02:33:45.300
Michael Jensen: before you go to public comment. Can you just read what motion you're about to pass?

1511
02:33:47.310 --> 02:33:51.340
Michael Jensen: Yeah, I had it up. It was up on the screen right? You can read it, or you can see it

1512
02:33:53.970 --> 02:34:08.409
Michael Jensen: if you're talking about all the where, as it's in there for us, I guess I can. Okay? Well, i'll read it. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't I that it was up. But I I I will read it. So let's put a in public comment, not the where, as is but the the the therefore

1513
02:34:08.630 --> 02:34:11.109
Michael Jensen: Okay. So

1514
02:34:11.260 --> 02:34:12.709
Michael Jensen: I'll read just the motion.

1515
02:34:12.800 --> 02:34:17.069
Michael Jensen: Lupeck recommends the City Funding Department incorporate the following recommendations

1516
02:34:17.650 --> 02:34:23.089
Michael Jensen: for Lincoln Boulevard between Navy Avenue and Washington Boulevard. So that is the length of

1517
02:34:23.700 --> 02:34:29.229
Michael Jensen: of Venice. Walmart increased the height limit on the east and west sides of Lincoln to 8 stories.

1518
02:34:29.370 --> 02:34:35.749
Michael Jensen: with step down for lots of Jason to single family zones, resulting in a maximum height 45 feet

1519
02:34:37.200 --> 02:34:39.429
Michael Jensen: 2 limit density bonuses

1520
02:34:39.740 --> 02:34:48.970
Michael Jensen: to lots on Lincoln, and those which are not directly abutting single family zones, that the absolute height limits of 45 feet cannot be exceeded in step down areas

1521
02:34:49.640 --> 02:34:56.290
Michael Jensen: 3 for the side of Lincoln, between Washington and Maxella. So that's the portion south of Washington

1522
02:34:56.410 --> 02:35:00.070
Michael Jensen: to you. Get to Maxella in the Marina.

1523
02:35:00.920 --> 02:35:05.909
Michael Jensen: Increase height, limit to 75 feet, or rem remove height, limitation entirely

1524
02:35:06.120 --> 02:35:08.920
Michael Jensen: 4. And this is an amendment from

1525
02:35:09.740 --> 02:35:14.779
Michael Jensen: from. I apologize to Shawn because I I neglected to incorporate his

1526
02:35:18.250 --> 02:35:22.690
Michael Jensen: his his comments from the last meeting, which which I thought were good

1527
02:35:22.860 --> 02:35:30.589
Michael Jensen: into the new. Into this, into this motion for this one, so for the entire frontage of Lincoln Boulevard

1528
02:35:30.770 --> 02:35:40.060
Michael Jensen: require that development. Standards be amended to require power and telecommunication lines to be moved underground, using a combination of public funds and development standards for developers.

1529
02:35:41.400 --> 02:35:42.490
Michael Jensen: That's the motion.

1530
02:35:43.250 --> 02:35:46.040
Michael Jensen: So with that I will move on to public comment.

1531
02:35:46.280 --> 02:35:49.860
Michael Jensen: So oh, now I have a okay, Jim, you have a question.

1532
02:35:52.480 --> 02:35:53.900
Public comment.

1533
02:35:54.130 --> 02:35:57.220
Michael Jensen: Oh, okay, public on. Got it? Okay. So

1534
02:35:57.550 --> 02:36:02.469
Michael Jensen: I see 4 hands in the public, plus, Jim. We'll start with Cj: Call.

1535
02:36:04.950 --> 02:36:12.020
CJ Cole: Okay, for about the third time or fourth time. I am very much against this number one

1536
02:36:12.260 --> 02:36:16.410
CJ Cole: number 2, the community as a whole, including

1537
02:36:16.460 --> 02:36:25.380
CJ Cole: many, many, many people I know who are very involved in this community. The community does not know anything about this.

1538
02:36:25.540 --> 02:36:28.030
CJ Cole: This is something that's going to change

1539
02:36:28.250 --> 02:36:31.510
CJ Cole: the total look of the best community.

1540
02:36:32.050 --> 02:36:35.630
CJ Cole: 75 feet is ridiculously high.

1541
02:36:35.820 --> 02:36:50.459
CJ Cole: I think this needs to. You know it just has to be made much more public than what you've been able to do. I sit in these meetings. I know there can't be more than 2 or 3 other people besides me to come to these meetings.

1542
02:36:50.760 --> 02:36:56.320
CJ Cole: and it's Obviously the the community knows nothing about this and nothing.

1543
02:36:56.390 --> 02:37:07.100
CJ Cole: They have no idea of what Lincoln Boulevard is going to look like, not just as you drive through Venice, but for the communities right behind it.

1544
02:37:07.230 --> 02:37:23.409
CJ Cole: There are single family homes. It's the sun. It's everything in the coast with it, and then it looks like now you're trying to incorporate low income housing. And all of this you know the whole concept that this has this

1545
02:37:23.450 --> 02:37:42.760
CJ Cole: that delved in other communities just like us, and not just in Venice, and you know it's just ridiculous. And I think you just if you go ahead and do this without having some serious public meetings having to do with the Venice coastal plan

1546
02:37:42.770 --> 02:37:47.470
CJ Cole: and the specific plan. I think it's a big mistake. Thank you.

1547
02:37:48.000 --> 02:37:48.820
You.

1548
02:37:50.100 --> 02:37:52.569
Michael Jensen: Okay, Thank you. Cj.

1549
02:37:52.700 --> 02:37:54.350
Shawn. O'brien.

1550
02:37:57.480 --> 02:37:58.949
Yes, thank you.

1551
02:37:59.090 --> 02:38:02.710
Sean Obrien: and thanks for incorporating. Item 4.

1552
02:38:03.020 --> 02:38:09.569
Sean Obrien: I would be more in support of this if it was limited to 5 stories.

1553
02:38:09.640 --> 02:38:14.810
Sean Obrien: The 8 stories that's getting near a 100 feet tall.

1554
02:38:16.340 --> 02:38:22.599
Sean Obrien: you know, when you factor in air conditioning, and what not stuff of a butting from the rooftops.

1555
02:38:25.930 --> 02:38:29.379
Sean Obrien: One thing that's never been addressed with this is

1556
02:38:29.680 --> 02:38:31.420
Sean Obrien: how many houses

1557
02:38:31.620 --> 02:38:44.550
Sean Obrien: will be, or how many units, and how many people you know will be living in those units. If this is approved, then it's all it's all developed to its maximum. Are we talking

1558
02:38:44.610 --> 02:38:46.590
Sean Obrien: 10,000 units?

1559
02:38:46.750 --> 02:38:52.019
Sean Obrien: You know, I, that I don't know that that I would like to know is

1560
02:38:52.710 --> 02:39:05.890
Sean Obrien: how many units would be the maximum proposed from Navy to Maxwell. I know it's a hard number to come up with, but that should be talked about, and then finally the water.

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02:39:06.380 --> 02:39:09.409
Sean Obrien: you know, right now we're asked to cut back on water.

1562
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Sean Obrien: and now you know we now you want to add another 10,000 units to to a 3 mile area. Where's all? Where's all that water gonna come from?

1563
02:39:18.620 --> 02:39:26.799
Sean Obrien: So these are things that have me concerned. I wish I could support it. But at this time I can't

1564
02:39:27.340 --> 02:39:28.199
Sean Obrien: thank you.

1565
02:39:29.730 --> 02:39:30.900
Michael Jensen: All right. Thanks, John

1566
02:39:32.640 --> 02:39:35.220
Gabriel Smith.

1567
02:39:37.070 --> 02:39:46.999
Gabriel Smith: Hello, everybody! I'm just shocked that this is even on the table, or it has gained this much traction and consideration. I can't imagine Venice

1568
02:39:47.040 --> 02:40:06.280
Gabriel Smith: approving this or what it would become. I was born in a race here. It would just be unrecognizable to me to have 8 story buildings stretching up and down Lincoln Boulevard. I don't see a cohesive plan for parking how that would be administered, or the effects that it would have upon traffic as a whole.

1569
02:40:06.290 --> 02:40:16.930
Gabriel Smith: Lincoln Boulevard, of course, is just a a roadway for all of the coast to to go through it. It. It goes all up and down the coastline to have just

1570
02:40:17.050 --> 02:40:21.469
Gabriel Smith: a series of condominiums place on top of commercial structures

1571
02:40:21.570 --> 02:40:39.910
Gabriel Smith: 8 stories high. I mean you. You know that it's going to impact the 2 lanes that that are available for for traffic there. I'm very much opposed to this, I'm. Begging that the Council would to decline this measure, and also just to be clear, I I a clarifying question for Barry.

1572
02:40:39.920 --> 02:40:57.039
Gabriel Smith: The the reason why that this is still on the table is because the housing administration is requiring that a speech to install more housing is that what I'm hearing, and that's why this measure is being voted upon. That's all. I I relinquish my time.

1573
02:40:57.740 --> 02:40:58.830
Michael Jensen: Thank you, Gabriel

1574
02:41:04.590 --> 02:41:06.819
Michael Jensen: and Jim.

1575
02:41:08.620 --> 02:41:10.919
jim murez: so i'll try and keep it short.

1576
02:41:12.020 --> 02:41:16.129
jim murez: First of all, I think that the condition needs to state that it's absolute height

1577
02:41:16.340 --> 02:41:20.930
jim murez: rather than 8 stories or 45 feet or whatever numbers you're calling out

1578
02:41:21.020 --> 02:41:24.479
absolute height means something to the zoning administrator that

1579
02:41:24.640 --> 02:41:26.470
jim murez: things like air conditioners, and

1580
02:41:26.590 --> 02:41:31.940
jim murez: you know additional stories for elevators and things can't exceed the absolute height.

1581
02:41:32.200 --> 02:41:51.160
jim murez: I think that's important. I think you need to include in there that it says something about these are mixed. Use projects that the ground floor needs to be commercial. We don't want to disrupt our commercial corridor by all of a sudden creating a housing corridor. I think that that would, you know, definitely change the characteristics of Dennis.

1582
02:41:51.170 --> 02:42:02.000
jim murez: I I also think that you know we have 21 stories on Lincoln Boulevard at this part within Dennis. Now I don't think 8 stories is a problem, but I would like to slow the process down.

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02:42:02.010 --> 02:42:18.489
jim murez: and and if necessary, as President, I will see that that happens because I want to see if if the parking and transportation Committee can consider something that would address the the smaller units, only requiring one parking space for dwelling.

1584
02:42:18.500 --> 02:42:31.510
jim murez: So if if we really pushed hard we could do a lot of outreach in between now and March, and in, give Ptc. Or the Parking and Transportation Committee a chance to to look at this in between.

1585
02:42:31.780 --> 02:42:35.740
jim murez: Those are my comments. Take them for whatever you want. Thank you.

1586
02:42:35.900 --> 02:42:36.800
Michael Jensen: Thanks, Jim.

1587
02:42:37.530 --> 02:42:40.679
Last, but not least.

1588
02:42:42.360 --> 02:42:44.470
Robin Murez: Hi. So I

1589
02:42:44.770 --> 02:42:49.639
Robin Murez: Well, we'd like to agree with what C. J. Said. Both

1590
02:42:49.820 --> 02:42:53.430
Robin Murez: the height seems excessive.

1591
02:42:53.520 --> 02:42:59.860
Robin Murez: and the outreach is completely inadequate for something that would be this

1592
02:43:00.050 --> 02:43:03.060
Robin Murez: impactful on our community.

1593
02:43:04.750 --> 02:43:06.030
Robin Murez: I would

1594
02:43:06.740 --> 02:43:14.209
Robin Murez: completely agree with item number 4, though I would say, that is the one aspect of this that I support.

1595
02:43:15.890 --> 02:43:18.140
Robin Murez: I'm also wondering that

1596
02:43:18.230 --> 02:43:23.500
Robin Murez: I think it was. Gabriel asked whether this is some sort of imperative because of

1597
02:43:23.570 --> 02:43:32.830
Robin Murez: a requirement that there is, that we have all this increased housing, but that also goes back to what Barry was commenting on. Earlier

1598
02:43:32.910 --> 02:43:37.660
Robin Murez: does Venice have to have all of the whether it be

1599
02:43:38.370 --> 02:43:47.950
Robin Murez: this low income housing low it services for homeless housing, I mean shouldn't. These things be spread out throughout CD. 11.

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Robin Murez: It just to me, seems completely inappropriate to be talking about

1601
02:43:54.000 --> 02:43:55.610
Robin Murez: heights above.

1602
02:43:56.070 --> 02:44:06.200
Robin Murez: I mean, I think it should be 4 stories maximum, and and and Jim's comment about maximum height is, you know how it's got to be defined.

1603
02:44:06.230 --> 02:44:16.279
Robin Murez: and this is completely open to abuse of it being what luxury condos the whole way. Yeah, it just is completely

1604
02:44:16.580 --> 02:44:18.620
Robin Murez: inappropriate, I would think.

1605
02:44:18.670 --> 02:44:25.420
Robin Murez: But so please let's like, put some more effort into getting this better. Thank you.

1606
02:44:27.190 --> 02:44:29.049
Michael Jensen: Okay, thank you, Robin.

1607
02:44:30.090 --> 02:44:32.629
Michael Jensen: So I think I just want to address a couple of things.

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02:44:33.980 --> 02:44:43.840
Michael Jensen: The the State is mandating, and I think you know everyone who's been paying attention to the past couple of years in terms of like.

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02:44:43.990 --> 02:44:45.879
Michael Jensen: you know single family zoning.

1610
02:44:45.970 --> 02:44:46.789
Michael Jensen: you know.

1611
02:44:46.850 --> 02:44:47.860
Michael Jensen: creating

1612
02:44:48.030 --> 02:44:51.449
Michael Jensen: Sb: 9 enough to be 10 or or passing those bills

1613
02:44:51.510 --> 02:44:54.529
Michael Jensen: was targeted to increasing density.

1614
02:44:54.770 --> 02:44:57.079
Michael Jensen: you know, an inch a mile wide.

1615
02:44:57.150 --> 02:44:58.690
Michael Jensen: which

1616
02:44:58.820 --> 02:45:00.909
Michael Jensen: single family, you know.

1617
02:45:01.310 --> 02:45:10.370
Michael Jensen: owners associations have sort of thrown their their arms up in, and you know there are 2 sort of approaches we we don't really have a choice in whether or not

1618
02:45:10.420 --> 02:45:12.819
Michael Jensen: there have to be more units built.

1619
02:45:12.990 --> 02:45:15.339
Michael Jensen: That is a an imperative.

1620
02:45:15.390 --> 02:45:18.219
Michael Jensen: and it is it is going to happen.

1621
02:45:18.680 --> 02:45:19.699
Michael Jensen: and

1622
02:45:19.980 --> 02:45:22.860
Michael Jensen: the housing element needs to be approved

1623
02:45:22.930 --> 02:45:25.140
Michael Jensen: by the State, and it can be rejected.

1624
02:45:25.420 --> 02:45:26.880
Michael Jensen: And if it's rejected.

1625
02:45:26.900 --> 02:45:31.900
Michael Jensen: there is the potential that you do not get to choose what happens.

1626
02:45:32.110 --> 02:45:33.190
Michael Jensen: And

1627
02:45:33.750 --> 02:45:40.689
Michael Jensen: all of this, you know all of these top down mandates have been a by product of local jurisdictions.

1628
02:45:41.040 --> 02:45:45.289
Michael Jensen: not embracing the reality that more

1629
02:45:45.520 --> 02:45:52.160
Michael Jensen: and i'm not just talking about affordable housing. I I i'm talking about market rate, You know market rate housing for

1630
02:45:52.400 --> 02:45:53.580
Michael Jensen: the missing middle.

1631
02:45:53.860 --> 02:45:56.180
Michael Jensen: and that's what we're talking about, building

1632
02:45:56.200 --> 02:45:59.699
Michael Jensen: in a quantity that will actually hit a dent in the

1633
02:46:00.350 --> 02:46:03.290
Michael Jensen: in the affordability issue for

1634
02:46:03.510 --> 02:46:04.600
Michael Jensen: the middle class.

1635
02:46:04.810 --> 02:46:05.619
Michael Jensen: So

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02:46:05.780 --> 02:46:12.500
Michael Jensen: I do want to just speak to some of the some of the comments, because I think a lot of them are sort of

1637
02:46:12.980 --> 02:46:20.040
Michael Jensen: not not understanding exactly what this motion is seeking to do. So Lincoln Boulevard is a

1638
02:46:20.350 --> 02:46:22.179
Michael Jensen: large commercial corridor.

1639
02:46:22.360 --> 02:46:27.740
Michael Jensen: I want to speak to the the area between Washington Boulevard and Maxella

1640
02:46:27.830 --> 02:46:29.599
Michael Jensen: on the East Side.

1641
02:46:29.650 --> 02:46:33.800
Michael Jensen: and maybe I can actually just pull up a map of it, and that might help.

1642
02:46:34.120 --> 02:46:39.419
Michael Jensen: But the area that area is is not.

1643
02:46:39.570 --> 02:46:44.170
Michael Jensen: but behind it. Is not a single family zone like you have in much of East Venice.

1644
02:46:44.330 --> 02:46:47.270
Michael Jensen: Behind that area is a

1645
02:46:49.600 --> 02:46:51.479
Michael Jensen: is is all

1646
02:46:53.520 --> 02:46:55.690
Michael Jensen: multi-story multi-unit.

1647
02:46:55.740 --> 02:47:01.419
Michael Jensen: you know high density, or at least medium density housing, which I think makes it an ideal fit for

1648
02:47:01.540 --> 02:47:02.619
Michael Jensen: having

1649
02:47:03.490 --> 02:47:07.229
Michael Jensen: these types of heights which keep in mind will still be lower than

1650
02:47:07.740 --> 02:47:12.509
Michael Jensen: the towers. The Marina towers on the west side.

1651
02:47:13.840 --> 02:47:15.010
Michael Jensen: further south.

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02:47:15.440 --> 02:47:16.920
Michael Jensen: But let me pull up.

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02:47:18.360 --> 02:47:20.890
Michael Jensen: Well, i'm doing that. Does the committee have any other

1654
02:47:20.940 --> 02:47:22.789
Michael Jensen: comments while I'm just working on that.

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02:47:24.110 --> 02:47:27.289
barrycassilly: I have a few. But like

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02:47:27.320 --> 02:47:28.280
now.

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02:47:28.780 --> 02:47:29.449
Michael Jensen: yeah.

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02:47:29.520 --> 02:47:30.360
barrycassilly: okay.

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02:47:32.290 --> 02:47:36.239
barrycassilly: I I really wanted to go through the the the comments made by

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02:47:36.460 --> 02:47:41.149
barrycassilly: people a moment ago. I think that

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02:47:41.570 --> 02:47:43.980
barrycassilly: Cg. Has a good point about outreach.

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02:47:45.340 --> 02:47:47.800
barrycassilly: It would be great

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02:47:48.370 --> 02:47:50.300
barrycassilly: if we could do a little bit more

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02:47:50.380 --> 02:47:51.520
barrycassilly: or a lot more

1665
02:47:51.570 --> 02:47:57.929
barrycassilly: to engage more people in this conversation, and I think we have to look outside of this committee for help. With that

1666
02:47:59.540 --> 02:48:06.630
barrycassilly: Shawn was asked. Shawn was asking for a hard number. You know how many

1667
02:48:06.860 --> 02:48:12.980
barrycassilly: new units like serving, how many people, what's our target?

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02:48:13.110 --> 02:48:16.909
barrycassilly: I don't have that the tip of my fingers right now, but I can get it by tomorrow.

1669
02:48:18.280 --> 02:48:20.859
barrycassilly: It's significant, however.

1670
02:48:20.920 --> 02:48:27.160
barrycassilly: because La and Venice in particular, Venice has lost housing units overall

1671
02:48:27.180 --> 02:48:30.519
barrycassilly: in the past few decades. Los Angeles, as a whole.

1672
02:48:30.980 --> 02:48:34.209
barrycassilly: has added

1673
02:48:34.310 --> 02:48:45.279
barrycassilly: only a fraction of its population, gain for pretty much 3 decades now, so our deficit of housing units overall is over 450,000.

1674
02:48:45.470 --> 02:48:47.760
barrycassilly: That's housing units, not people.

1675
02:48:49.090 --> 02:48:49.949
barrycassilly: So

1676
02:48:51.580 --> 02:48:54.730
barrycassilly: what the city is doing is taking a look at each

1677
02:48:54.750 --> 02:49:01.140
barrycassilly: community. Sometimes the community corresponds with the community plan area, or we do.

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and

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02:49:03.580 --> 02:49:09.019
barrycassilly: they're sort of saying, okay, this is, this is your share

1680
02:49:09.180 --> 02:49:11.679
barrycassilly: that you need to provide in your community.

1681
02:49:12.690 --> 02:49:23.180
barrycassilly: The city doesn't care how we do it. They just care that we do it. So I think you know, I think everybody on this committee would be.

1682
02:49:23.270 --> 02:49:25.079
barrycassilly: would love to hear options

1683
02:49:25.380 --> 02:49:26.670
barrycassilly: from anybody

1684
02:49:26.770 --> 02:49:35.950
barrycassilly: of an alternative. For where to put these House units, because we will consider anything, nothing's off the table.

1685
02:49:38.010 --> 02:49:44.239
barrycassilly: A point that Mikhail was just trying to make is that the area on Washington

1686
02:49:44.330 --> 02:49:47.190
barrycassilly: south and on the east side of the street?

1687
02:49:47.520 --> 02:49:53.330
barrycassilly: That is that it joins the Marina Arts district

1688
02:49:53.480 --> 02:49:57.599
barrycassilly: in part, and that's a high density area.

1689
02:49:57.760 --> 02:50:06.939
barrycassilly: There's no building over there. It's less than 5 stories, so, and they're not on a commercial corridor. So if we put that's an ideal opportunity

1690
02:50:07.230 --> 02:50:10.880
barrycassilly: to put in a significant number of housing

1691
02:50:11.030 --> 02:50:27.870
barrycassilly: units that won't have any impact on single family neighborhoods. And again I I ask, I really ask people who are raising objections to parking, and not liking to see bigger buildings or whatever

1692
02:50:27.890 --> 02:50:35.430
barrycassilly: to please keep in mind that we're we're trying to respect their other concerns about impact to single family neighborhoods.

1693
02:50:35.680 --> 02:50:40.789
barrycassilly: This could be done completely differently. We could do low rise everything

1694
02:50:40.970 --> 02:50:51.630
barrycassilly: that would mean if you go through most of Venice north of Venice Boulevard. There are apartment buildings, historic apartment buildings on almost every block except in the Walk streets.

1695
02:50:52.880 --> 02:51:03.140
barrycassilly: and so that would mean more of that. That would mean returning to a historic zoning allowances that Venice had, and allowing apartment buildings again in the neighborhoods.

1696
02:51:03.680 --> 02:51:05.929
barrycassilly: If people don't want that.

1697
02:51:06.190 --> 02:51:10.099
barrycassilly: this is an alternative, but we could do that again.

1698
02:51:10.150 --> 02:51:15.200
barrycassilly: It's in it's we we just have to find some formula.

1699
02:51:17.220 --> 02:51:22.280
barrycassilly: I thought Jim made a a really as an elemental point. We have to make sure

1700
02:51:22.600 --> 02:51:28.750
barrycassilly: that we're insisting on a commercial element on the first floor of commercial corridors.

1701
02:51:28.820 --> 02:51:38.430
barrycassilly: because I don't think anybody likes it. When somebody eliminates part of the streetscape by putting their living room on the first floor of a commercial corridor.

1702
02:51:39.840 --> 02:51:48.430
barrycassilly: And what Robin meres with the with the respect my comments about homeless, about low income and homeless housing.

1703
02:51:48.580 --> 02:51:51.400
barrycassilly: I think that's really a separate issue.

1704
02:51:51.470 --> 02:51:52.760
barrycassilly: but I hear you

1705
02:51:52.840 --> 02:51:54.959
and I share your concern.

1706
02:51:55.020 --> 02:51:57.270
barrycassilly: Venice clearly

1707
02:51:57.300 --> 02:51:59.199
barrycassilly: has

1708
02:52:00.550 --> 02:52:06.230
barrycassilly: born pretty much all the burden with, except for Del Rey, in C 11 historically.

1709
02:52:06.260 --> 02:52:08.760
and before anybody suggests

1710
02:52:08.810 --> 02:52:18.680
barrycassilly: that another pro another low income and or homeless service project is going to be done. I think everybody in Venice wants to see

1711
02:52:18.990 --> 02:52:29.080
barrycassilly: Brent would do something. The Palisades do something, mar this to do something after everybody contributes the way we have contributed

1712
02:52:29.190 --> 02:52:30.960
barrycassilly: largely to their benefit

1713
02:52:31.090 --> 02:52:38.329
barrycassilly: in in, because they don't have to deal with anything after they contribute. I think Venice might be willing to consider

1714
02:52:38.360 --> 02:52:44.070
barrycassilly: something else I would be. But I want to see those I want to see everybody else contribute first.

1715
02:52:45.450 --> 02:52:46.300
barrycassilly: So

1716
02:52:46.400 --> 02:52:49.110
Michael Jensen: that's all. I sorry I agree with that.

1717
02:52:50.260 --> 02:53:04.679
Michael Jensen: The other thing I just wanted to speak to in terms of outreach. So I I believe this the fourth time this motion has appeared on the agenda, although I think one of those times it didn't actually get it got continued because it was a I was on a delayed flight, and so I couldn't share the meeting.

1718
02:53:04.920 --> 02:53:07.240
Michael Jensen: But I

1719
02:53:07.510 --> 02:53:11.579
Michael Jensen: for this meeting I also had our outreach chair.

1720
02:53:11.840 --> 02:53:22.929
Michael Jensen: you know, blast the community with social media and with an email. I I would love for more people to get involved with this process that I really would.

1721
02:53:22.950 --> 02:53:31.100
Michael Jensen: So as long as it's not just people coming and saying No, with having no alternative, I I think we can have a productive conversation about how to do it.

1722
02:53:31.170 --> 02:53:34.750
Michael Jensen: I think what's probably clear is is so

1723
02:53:34.810 --> 02:53:43.619
Michael Jensen: so I guess the other part part. The Jim spoke to his. His other comment was regarding the parking stuff, and I'm. Also in contact with

1724
02:53:44.110 --> 02:53:47.899
Michael Jensen: Robert. And who's the chair of the Parking and Transportation Committee

1725
02:53:47.930 --> 02:53:49.700
Michael Jensen: about how we can sort of.

1726
02:53:50.530 --> 02:53:53.509
Michael Jensen: you know, work together on

1727
02:53:54.240 --> 02:54:00.059
Michael Jensen: coming up with a parking concept that mimics more of you know all of the R. So housing

1728
02:54:00.090 --> 02:54:02.540
Michael Jensen: that is, you know, between

1729
02:54:02.760 --> 02:54:08.590
Michael Jensen: 12 and 20. Some units in Venice was built at a time where the parking requirements was not

1730
02:54:08.790 --> 02:54:12.520
Michael Jensen: 2 parking spaces for every one bedroom apartment

1731
02:54:12.860 --> 02:54:19.210
Michael Jensen: which has translated to a huge financial burden on developing market rate housing.

1732
02:54:19.470 --> 02:54:21.880
Michael Jensen: So that's one of the things that

1733
02:54:21.920 --> 02:54:25.600
Michael Jensen: does have to go into this. And i'm happy to

1734
02:54:25.670 --> 02:54:29.100
Michael Jensen: put this over again, and we can. We can work on soliciting

1735
02:54:29.270 --> 02:54:39.390
Michael Jensen: more input on it because I don't want to feel like I want everyone to feel heard in this process, but we do need to find a solution to.

1736
02:54:39.460 --> 02:54:51.849
Michael Jensen: There's a math problem that needs to be solved, and they need to go somewhere, and i'm not talking about. This is not, for you know, homeless services, housing, or permanent support of housing. This is, we're talking about middle

1737
02:54:52.020 --> 02:54:54.489
Michael Jensen: middle class housing so

1738
02:54:56.180 --> 02:54:58.999
Michael Jensen: well with that I I guess i'll I'll

1739
02:54:59.150 --> 02:55:08.320
jim murez: We want to Barry and Jim. Do you have new comments, or your I? I have a I have a suggestion. First of all, I will work with with

1740
02:55:08.480 --> 02:55:12.330
jim murez: Sima and the outreach committee to do more outreach.

1741
02:55:12.530 --> 02:55:17.859
Michael Jensen: She did do a blast. By the way, I I know, but I think I think there's a lot more we can still do.

1742
02:55:17.940 --> 02:55:30.880
jim murez: and and we will start doing it. This is an important issue, and I know that this is gonna come up. And this isn't the only meeting where it's ever going to be held. This is the first meeting, and there's probably 6 more meetings before

1743
02:55:30.890 --> 02:55:45.860
jim murez: an actual ordinance gets adopted by city council. It also has to go through the planning department. There will be multiple hearings there. This is not a done deal by any means like Barry said. Like you said, this is the start of finding a solution.

1744
02:55:45.890 --> 02:55:50.799
jim murez: I would like to suggest for tonight, so you can make some progress.

1745
02:55:51.760 --> 02:56:00.619
jim murez: Take the Google screen that you have now, and drive over to Del Ray, which is the next street over You're still on Link in here.

1746
02:56:00.740 --> 02:56:11.589
jim murez: and then let's bifurcate the motion that you have tonight, and only look at the stretch between Washington and Maxella, and let's get that

1747
02:56:11.700 --> 02:56:16.840
jim murez: started because it's a considerably different strip of land.

1748
02:56:16.990 --> 02:56:34.070
jim murez: Then then it would be if if we were talking about north of Washington Boulevard, north of Washington Boulevard. You do have all of the housing and all of the other elements that are going on in the in the residential neighborhoods behind on both the East and the West Side, and that's going to mean.

1749
02:56:34.530 --> 02:56:43.619
jim murez: Evan is one of the the east of neighborhood is East Venice Neighborhood Council or we're not Neighborhood Council. These Neighborhood association wants to be more involved. They're not involved.

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jim murez: The West Side. You get the walk streets. Let's just take it apart and get this part passed first, and break those other parts down into other meetings, and really do a lot of pushing and outreach into those communities. Maybe we can even do a direct mailing to every single house and tell them, hey, this is on the on the

1751
02:57:03.570 --> 02:57:06.390
Michael Jensen: is there? So so I guess. Here's Here's the issue. We have

1752
02:57:06.570 --> 02:57:10.040
Michael Jensen: it's 18 min or 10. I have a hard stop at 10.

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02:57:12.000 --> 02:57:13.479
Michael Jensen: We can.

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02:57:14.070 --> 02:57:21.370
Michael Jensen: If I amend the motion, we have to do a new public comment, a new, a new round of that.

1755
02:57:21.470 --> 02:57:22.949
Michael Jensen: So we can

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02:57:23.800 --> 02:57:27.850
Michael Jensen: we? We can do that. I just don't.

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02:57:28.430 --> 02:57:40.140
Michael Jensen: you know we may or may not be able to get that in 17 min. We also have one more thing to not discuss, but I want to just put it on the radar and introduce it to everyone. So I I think we need like a couple of minutes for that.

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02:57:40.500 --> 02:57:42.630
Michael Jensen: But is there

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02:57:42.650 --> 02:57:48.409
Michael Jensen: on on the committee an appetite to do that kind of motion where we stripped down I mean, really, it would be

1760
02:57:49.000 --> 02:57:50.570
Michael Jensen: stripping this

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02:57:51.790 --> 02:57:59.939
barrycassilly: out, and we see your time clock. We don't see, I think it's a very constructive suggestion.

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02:58:00.000 --> 02:58:06.130
barrycassilly: I would suggest that we limit public comment to 1 min, and I don't think

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02:58:06.390 --> 02:58:11.540
Michael Jensen: that there will be a lot of public comments

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02:58:11.960 --> 02:58:13.739
Michael Jensen: we're going to

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02:58:14.220 --> 02:58:16.189
Michael Jensen: screen share with

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02:58:16.880 --> 02:58:18.220
jim murez: that. You got your cloud.

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02:58:18.560 --> 02:58:19.570
Michael Jensen: Yeah, I know.

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02:58:19.790 --> 02:58:21.569
Michael Jensen: So now can you guys see the motion?

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02:58:22.680 --> 02:58:23.549
barrycassilly: Yes, yes.

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Michael Jensen: Okay.

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Michael Jensen: So here is the amended motion

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Michael Jensen: which

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Michael Jensen: look back to our commensity planning department, incorporate the following recommendations for the east Side of like a boulevard between

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02:58:35.100 --> 02:58:42.839
Michael Jensen: Washington and Excel Avenue, increase high limit to 75 feet or remove height, limit entirely for entire frontage of Lincoln Boulevard.

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02:58:42.880 --> 02:58:49.879
Michael Jensen: Quiet. The development standards to be a minutes to require power telecom lines, people who underground, using combination of public funds

1776
02:58:49.920 --> 02:58:51.910
Michael Jensen: and development standards for

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02:58:52.040 --> 02:58:53.140
Michael Jensen: developers.

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02:58:53.240 --> 02:58:57.990
Michael Jensen: and then 5 maintain commercial element on ground floor.

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02:58:58.290 --> 02:59:02.070
jim murez: One piece that you're still missing from the last meeting.

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02:59:02.710 --> 02:59:10.859
Michael Jensen: You have to be able to join more than 3 lots. Now, you know, Jim, I checked. I I checked that. The 3 lot requirement

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02:59:10.910 --> 02:59:15.370
Michael Jensen: is only in the Oakwood Millwood. It's not on this. It wouldn't be on this portion.

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jim murez: Okay, if you say so I thought it was so, all of them. But if you, if you say it's in the land.

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02:59:21.190 --> 02:59:21.940
Michael Jensen: yeah.

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02:59:26.710 --> 02:59:31.900
Matthew Royce: why why do you have 75 feet or height.

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02:59:31.990 --> 02:59:37.489
Michael Jensen: it's either 75, or or remove it entirely.

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02:59:38.950 --> 02:59:41.680
Matthew Royce: Should we should we choose one.

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02:59:42.840 --> 02:59:46.030
Matthew Royce: It's a little confusing I don't know if somebody else is reading it.

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barrycassilly: Let's choose one.

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barrycassilly: The the lots, the lots aren't that big there's there. There's a practical limit how high people can go.

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02:59:55.860 --> 03:00:00.739
Michael Jensen: But the point there, the the lot ties mean that you can tie more than

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Michael Jensen: more than 3. There's no limit.

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barrycassilly: I know it's a practice again, practically speaking, let's see somebody trying and combine like 7 laws. Okay, I'm going to open it up to public comment. We're going to do 1 min this time

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Michael Jensen: on public comment.

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Michael Jensen: and

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Michael Jensen: please raise your hands. I see 1, 2, 3,

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Michael Jensen: and 4

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Robin meres.

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Robin Murez: I support this. I would accept that I would like to have it be.

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Robin Murez: whatever Jim's language was for the height, being, you know, inclusive of everything, and I would set it at 75 and not have, or whatever. But yeah, this makes sense to me, that's all. Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Thank you, Robin.

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Michael Jensen: Hey, girl Smith.

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Gabriel Smith: I again i'm begging. Please decline this measure. This is just not the direction that the residents of Venice Beach would want for their community.

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Gabriel Smith: I I believe that I can create

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Gabriel Smith: a proposal that will satisfy all parties if given a little more time. If you can get me a week I can send out emails to to the committee members.

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Gabriel Smith: But please, if you can't decline this, please postpone the vote, at least, so that I would be able to have time to do so.

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Gabriel Smith: That's all. Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Thank you. Gabriel. Cj.

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CJ Cole: Sorry I don't usually talk this much, but I do think that again the outreach in this cond this is very important. The people west of Lincoln in that area. They are all single families. Low rise low, rise houses.

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03:01:53.200 --> 03:02:03.070
CJ Cole: and I think they need to be somewhat involved in this, even if you're only talking about east of Lincoln.

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CJ Cole: And, by the way, your outreach was less than one sentence in the Neighborhood Council email. So I wouldn't call that any outreach at all. Okay, so you gotta do serious outreach. Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, Thank you.

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Shawn O'brien.

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Michael Jensen: and that'll be it

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Sean Obrien: as a compromise. I

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Sean Obrien: can stand behind this reluctantly. I do see the wisdom and Jim's proposal, and bifurcating those.

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Sean Obrien: I do believe that that block can absorb this growth.

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Sean Obrien: but i'd love to hear Gabe's response like next week.

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Sean Obrien: and again those hard numbers

1819
03:02:55.940 --> 03:03:00.400
Sean Obrien: give us the hard numbers, for just this block is the how many units

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Sean Obrien: could be put between Washington and that. Maxwell.

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Sean Obrien: Thank you.

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Michael Jensen: Thank you, Shawn.

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Michael Jensen: Okay. So

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Michael Jensen: let me go back to the motion here.

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Michael Jensen: This is it.

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Michael Jensen: You want to put the word absolute right before height. Increase absolutely as long as that means I don't have to

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jim murez: do another round of public comment. That's a minor modification. You're allowed to do that.

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Michael Jensen: Okay.

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Michael Jensen: All right. Someone want to make this motion? Who's not, Jim?

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Okay.

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barrycassilly: I want to make the motion.

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Matthew Royce: I don't have to have you all the where, as is to

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Michael Jensen: No, you don't have to read it. It's up.

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Michael Jensen: I I read it ahead of time.

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Michael Jensen: So

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Michael Jensen: who's the second?

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barrycassilly: I'll. Second.

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Michael Jensen: Very. Thank you. And we're going to go through this real quick.

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Barry.

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barrycassilly: Yes.

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03:04:28.630 --> 03:04:29.539
Michael Jensen: Matthew.

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Matthew Royce: Yes.

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Michael Jensen: Correct.

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Yes.

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Michael Jensen: Jeff.

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03:04:34.730 --> 03:04:35.570
Jeff Martin: Yes.

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03:04:38.140 --> 03:04:40.299
Michael Jensen: Matthew, you're Chris.

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Christopher McLean: Yes.

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03:04:42.020 --> 03:04:42.850
Michael Jensen: Lauren.

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lauren siegel: Yes.

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03:04:48.220 --> 03:04:49.250
Michael Jensen: vanish.

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Michael Jensen: It looks like a Yes.

1853
03:04:53.010 --> 03:04:59.210
Mehrnoosh Mojallali: yes.

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03:04:59.260 --> 03:05:00.160
Michael Jensen: okay.

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03:05:00.340 --> 03:05:04.690
Michael Jensen: 950, but I do want to introduce. So one of the things coming up is

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Michael Jensen: the permit Al fresco ordinance, as we all remember, from the pandemic. They we started eating in parking lots.

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03:05:11.360 --> 03:05:14.480
Michael Jensen: There is a proposal

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to

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Michael Jensen: create a permanent version of that.

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03:05:18.470 --> 03:05:26.009
Michael Jensen: So this is not eating on public spaces like sidewalks, but on private property, like parking lots

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03:05:26.270 --> 03:05:28.609
and other outdoor

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03:05:28.780 --> 03:05:32.989
Michael Jensen: spaces that are adjacent for joining restaurants.

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03:05:33.210 --> 03:05:39.470
Michael Jensen: So I want to just let everyone who's you know, on the committee or in the public.

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Michael Jensen: You know these are the resources for it. I I think we're gonna probably discuss this at our

1865
03:05:45.580 --> 03:05:49.080
Michael Jensen: next meeting in February, which is on the 20 third

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Michael Jensen: February 20, fourth is the final day for public comment to the planning department.

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03:05:55.890 --> 03:06:04.720
Michael Jensen: but I think we'll we'll probably put together something that submit the city in March. This is not going to be again like an ordinance is not going to be passed for a little while on this.

1868
03:06:04.830 --> 03:06:07.610
Michael Jensen: but I just want to put it on everyone's radar.

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Michael Jensen: and with that, thank you, everyone. This is our Marathon meeting. It's like the longest in a while. But thank you. Everyone on the committee and from the public for staying tuned

1870
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Michael Jensen: with that.

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barrycassilly: i'll get gave his numbers tomorrow. Okay.

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03:06:26.500 --> 03:06:29.479
Michael Jensen: yeah. And and Gabriel, if you want to send

1873
03:06:29.690 --> 03:06:34.660
Michael Jensen: this, will go to the Vmc. But if you want to send any kind of alternative plan to us.

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03:06:34.890 --> 03:06:41.589
Michael Jensen: you can email it to me, or you can email it to the Vmc. Entire Vnc. Committee. The entire Respect Committee.

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Michael Jensen: We look forward to hearing from you.

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03:06:44.800 --> 03:06:55.820
jim murez: Yeah, if they can, if you if you get it, Matt, can you excuse me, Michael? Michael? Can you also send it to me? I would be interested in seeing that, and that might be a reason to postpone it at the board as well

1877
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jim murez: to bring it back before we go that far.

1878
03:06:58.740 --> 03:07:04.499
jim murez: and and and and keep me in touch with what you're doing with Robert, so we can make sure he gets it on his next agenda.

1879
03:07:04.580 --> 03:07:07.310
Michael Jensen: Yeah, we started looking through your materials

1880
03:07:07.450 --> 03:07:08.380
Michael Jensen: from

1881
03:07:08.420 --> 03:07:10.109
Michael Jensen: from whatever that

1882
03:07:10.510 --> 03:07:14.060
Michael Jensen: archive buzz. So all right, thanks. Everyone have a good night.

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corinne Baginski: Bye, bye.