WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.410 --> 00:00:06.880 jim murez: Demolition of the 2 00:00:07.140 --> 00:00:13.119 jim murez: he has. He has now been transferred. 3 00:00:41.720 --> 00:00:43.970 jim murez: Good morning, Betsy. I just promoted you. 4 00:02:13.760 --> 00:02:16.530 jim murez: Let's see I've tried to promote you now. Twice 5 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:18.459 jim murez: you have to accept. 6 00:02:20.270 --> 00:02:22.160 jim murez: not sure where Robin has. 7 00:02:22.790 --> 00:02:23.839 jim murez: Oh, there you go. 8 00:02:24.570 --> 00:02:26.410 jim murez: Good morning, Betsy. How are you 9 00:02:26.940 --> 00:02:27.820 jim murez: unmute? 10 00:02:35.660 --> 00:02:37.590 betsygoldman: Okay, I understand. Muted. 11 00:02:38.190 --> 00:02:40.180 jim murez: Okay, Betsy. You are, Jim. Yeah. 12 00:02:42.140 --> 00:02:44.069 jim murez: that was a butt dial. Okay. 13 00:02:45.550 --> 00:02:47.750 Robin, I am promoting you. 14 00:02:51.510 --> 00:02:52.809 jim murez: How are you, Betsy? 15 00:02:53.010 --> 00:02:57.890 betsygoldman: I'm doing fine. Thank you. How about yourself? You know i'm hanging in there. 16 00:02:58.110 --> 00:03:02.740 jim murez: I'm trying to make stuff happen through the Vnc. And everything that's going on in the community. 17 00:03:03.320 --> 00:03:04.980 jim murez: There's a lot going on. 18 00:03:05.470 --> 00:03:12.409 jim murez: certainly, is. Yeah, yeah, I'm: glad to see you participating in this. It's been years, you know. I know 19 00:03:13.380 --> 00:03:17.510 jim murez: we. I think we we most enjoy those calendars every year. 20 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:25.980 jim murez: Well, you know what I I have you on the phone. Do you have any early photographs of anybody roller, skating, or skateboarding? 21 00:03:26.100 --> 00:03:28.560 betsygoldman: No, you know. 22 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:30.270 robin murez: Okay. 23 00:03:30.450 --> 00:03:31.720 robin murez: I've seen some. 24 00:03:32.140 --> 00:03:35.910 robin murez: I'm: Sure. I I can find some. You have a Betsy. 25 00:03:36.030 --> 00:03:37.070 betsygoldman: I'm sorry. 26 00:03:37.850 --> 00:03:43.310 robin murez: Can you hear me? Is the volume? Okay, I can hear you. 27 00:03:43.910 --> 00:03:52.589 robin murez: Okay, and just trying to set things up in a better way. But and i'm going to promote you to be the host of the meeting. 28 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:55.850 jim murez: Once I do that I won't 29 00:03:56.970 --> 00:04:03.890 jim murez: be here to participate anymore. With all you have your meeting. That means you'll have to be promoting people. You know how to do All that right, Robin. 30 00:04:04.890 --> 00:04:11.919 robin murez: Yeah, I'm: just having computer problems this morning. But yeah, so the promoting people is down in the first participants. Right? 31 00:04:12.390 --> 00:04:14.869 robin murez: Yeah, I think I know how. 32 00:04:14.940 --> 00:04:19.189 jim murez: Yeah, I mean, if you're having computer problems, if I get off the 33 00:04:19.700 --> 00:04:25.230 jim murez: the and who is this Tim Rudd? Nick? Is he on the committee. 34 00:04:25.520 --> 00:04:32.400 robin murez: We're promoting him also. Tim, you got to accept. 35 00:04:37.140 --> 00:04:39.050 jim murez: There you go. 36 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:41.199 jim murez: If I hang up. 37 00:04:41.520 --> 00:04:47.539 robin murez: Yeah, I can do it if you but I don't know. I mean the the is. If I If I make you host 38 00:04:47.820 --> 00:04:53.660 jim murez: and your computer for some reason, crashes or dies, you have to call me back, and I have to restart the meeting. 39 00:04:55.030 --> 00:04:58.570 jim murez: because a At that point the connection is through you. 40 00:04:58.950 --> 00:04:59.590 robin murez: Okay? 41 00:04:59.820 --> 00:05:05.179 jim murez: Okay. So i'm going to go ahead and do that now and then all the rest of the promotions will be up to you. 42 00:05:06.980 --> 00:05:08.710 robin murez: Thank you. 43 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:14.279 jim murez: Robin is now host. You see where you now host 44 00:05:15.590 --> 00:05:20.650 jim murez: under panel under participants, it should say, on their panelists side, You're the host. 45 00:05:23.440 --> 00:05:24.390 I think. 46 00:05:26.490 --> 00:05:27.210 And yeah. 47 00:05:27.350 --> 00:05:36.619 jim murez: yeah, okay, all right. So i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna sign out. And if you, if you need me for something, you know how to text me or call me, or whatever. Okay. 48 00:05:36.670 --> 00:05:37.850 robin murez: bye, bye. 49 00:05:40.460 --> 00:05:43.410 robin murez: and Tim, you can unmute. 50 00:05:43.530 --> 00:05:46.249 robin murez: Let's see, ask to unmute. So 51 00:05:46.280 --> 00:05:49.150 robin murez: I am muted. Now. 52 00:05:49.210 --> 00:05:51.049 robin murez: Yeah, yeah, you are. 53 00:05:51.220 --> 00:06:00.890 robin murez: So we need a couple more of the voting members, and I think Brian and Danya both should be coming on. 54 00:06:01.020 --> 00:06:02.079 robin murez: so that 55 00:06:02.580 --> 00:06:06.610 robin murez: give them a couple of minutes. Maybe I should text them. 56 00:06:09.640 --> 00:06:11.449 robin murez: I'll try doing that. 57 00:06:11.950 --> 00:06:13.729 robin murez: How's everybody this morning? 58 00:06:14.050 --> 00:06:15.200 timrudnick: Great. 59 00:06:15.950 --> 00:06:18.450 betsygoldman: How are you doing, Robin? 60 00:06:18.880 --> 00:06:26.869 robin murez: I'm doing well. Running these meetings is a little bit difficult, you know. 61 00:06:27.690 --> 00:06:32.380 betsygoldman: You know. Did you get my, you know, since nobody else is on. 62 00:06:32.410 --> 00:06:36.620 betsygoldman: Did you get my message that I couldn't attend your birthday party? 63 00:06:36.760 --> 00:06:43.219 betsygoldman: No, yes, I did. I did thank you. And i'm really really sorry I really wanted. 64 00:06:43.290 --> 00:06:45.210 betsygoldman: but I had this issue. 65 00:06:45.350 --> 00:06:54.370 timrudnick: this mobility issue 66 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:55.510 timrudnick: You will. 67 00:06:55.670 --> 00:06:57.249 timrudnick: You're an old friend. 68 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:00.209 timrudnick: It would have been great to see you, but i'll see you again. 69 00:07:00.320 --> 00:07:01.970 betsygoldman: Yes, you will. 70 00:07:03.200 --> 00:07:06.060 timrudnick: Hey? Do you want those as long as we chat in? 71 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:15.029 timrudnick: Do you want those those records from the old City Hall? I have them in there. 72 00:07:15.070 --> 00:07:20.620 betsygoldman: but not right now. 73 00:07:20.660 --> 00:07:23.910 betsygoldman: and I appreciate your holding on to them. 74 00:07:25.750 --> 00:07:27.869 robin murez: Oh, here i'm trying to. 75 00:07:28.150 --> 00:07:32.589 robin murez: I I sent it text to Brian and I'm gonna 76 00:07:33.090 --> 00:07:39.120 robin murez: try to call Sonya. For some reason it's not bringing up her phone number here, which is. 77 00:07:42.840 --> 00:07:46.079 robin murez: you know. And when i'm trying to do things I get baffled. 78 00:07:47.780 --> 00:07:49.329 betsygoldman: And what about Scott? 79 00:07:50.330 --> 00:08:02.860 robin murez: Scott told me that he couldn't, which is crazy because we've changed the day the day for these meetings to accommodate him, and then, you know, he Hasn't, been able to make it. So. 80 00:08:05.410 --> 00:08:11.510 robin murez: Yeah, calling son, yeah. So you it's the volume fun. You can hear me. It is 81 00:08:11.670 --> 00:08:12.400 good. 82 00:08:13.270 --> 00:08:15.899 robin murez: and neither of you have your your 83 00:08:15.970 --> 00:08:20.110 robin murez: video on. I don't know how to do that 84 00:08:22.690 --> 00:08:23.490 for you. 85 00:08:23.540 --> 00:08:24.850 timrudnick: Start Video. 86 00:08:27.490 --> 00:08:31.250 robin murez: Yeah, you're wrong now. 87 00:08:34.990 --> 00:08:39.530 robin murez: Thank you. 88 00:08:40.450 --> 00:08:46.699 robin murez: It's Robin. We have a zoom starting. Now we need you. Come on to zoom. Okay, bye. 89 00:08:47.820 --> 00:08:49.719 robin murez: and i'll text her. 90 00:08:57.120 --> 00:09:01.190 robin murez: So we just we need one more voting member to have a forum. 91 00:09:01.630 --> 00:09:04.829 robin murez: and they both said they were gonna be on it. 92 00:09:06.190 --> 00:09:11.190 robin murez: Let's see what other I can also call she's got another number. 93 00:09:17.040 --> 00:09:34.280 robin murez: So if you guys want to discuss anything, Tim, did you have any more thoughts about Tim got to go up into the Tower yesterday, and it's beautiful. I mean it. It's very, very interesting, very. I got a lot of thoughts about it, and since the 94 00:09:34.410 --> 00:09:36.699 timrudnick: the time that view is fantastic 95 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:45.310 timrudnick: it's much smaller than I thought, and it's it, but i'm not surprised by the shape of it. It's it's really dilapidated. 96 00:09:45.980 --> 00:09:50.299 timrudnick: but it certainly can be renovated in the it's. 97 00:09:50.800 --> 00:10:00.199 timrudnick: It's fantastic. I love the entrance to the thing I love to talk about that the engine from the beach is fantastically interesting. 98 00:10:00.970 --> 00:10:08.930 robin murez: Yeah. So we need you because we can't. We don't have a for him until we join on the meeting. 99 00:10:09.040 --> 00:10:13.930 robin murez: Okay, quick, quick. Okay, bye. 100 00:10:15.670 --> 00:10:19.949 robin murez: Oh, my! So it sounds like it could be a few minutes until she comes on. 101 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:22.400 robin murez: Well. 102 00:10:22.680 --> 00:10:26.389 robin murez: I think we can discuss things without making any 103 00:10:26.430 --> 00:10:27.210 robin murez: but 104 00:10:27.760 --> 00:10:31.570 robin murez: commitments or anything, while we wait for somebody to join 105 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:36.310 robin murez: what we? Well, okay, there's one 106 00:10:36.380 --> 00:10:37.050 great peace 107 00:10:37.380 --> 00:10:44.680 robin murez: news that is, again, not any kind of controlling information, but I learned that 108 00:10:44.920 --> 00:10:48.750 robin murez: you know the project manager for the 109 00:10:49.100 --> 00:10:50.869 robin murez: department beaches and harbors. 110 00:10:50.940 --> 00:11:01.630 robin murez: who has been, you know, the one everybody quote, whether it be the Coastal Commission or back in parks or everywhere it's this gentleman by the name of Ismail Lopez. 111 00:11:02.250 --> 00:11:03.400 robin murez: and 112 00:11:03.490 --> 00:11:06.440 robin murez: guess what either is. Last night 113 00:11:07.570 --> 00:11:09.110 it's 114 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:10.430 timrudnick: what 115 00:11:11.340 --> 00:11:13.649 robin murez: it's. No, no, because has 116 00:11:13.850 --> 00:11:16.720 robin murez: transferred out of 117 00:11:17.070 --> 00:11:18.799 beaches and harbors. 118 00:11:20.490 --> 00:11:21.510 robin murez: So 119 00:11:21.610 --> 00:11:32.470 robin murez: okay, so first I've heard that, you know, Record said, Hold off until the committee has a chance to review it. No demolition. Then Tracy park 120 00:11:32.560 --> 00:11:34.159 robin murez: in the zoom the other night. 121 00:11:34.340 --> 00:11:41.670 robin murez: said, No, demolition is not happening. She doesn't know what will be, but no demolition. And then I hear Ismail's gone. 122 00:11:41.750 --> 00:11:42.650 robin murez: so 123 00:11:42.890 --> 00:11:50.859 robin murez: that to me was a really good sign. That means they have realized they cannot go forward with this, and 124 00:11:51.040 --> 00:11:53.349 robin murez: he's the one who was lying to everyone 125 00:11:53.780 --> 00:12:01.400 robin murez: I mean. I'm sure he was set up to do it. His supervisor, Warren, Monty Pierre, was also on like the record part 126 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:04.760 robin murez: Zoom. The 2 of them were giving their 127 00:12:05.030 --> 00:12:13.549 robin murez: misleading information. But you know there was that website current article that annoyed me so much because 128 00:12:13.670 --> 00:12:15.910 robin murez: they were quoting this meal. 129 00:12:16.850 --> 00:12:23.180 robin murez: misleading and false information, as though it was factual, and they quoted my 130 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:28.789 robin murez: the actual information that I sent the documents showing that it was back. 131 00:12:28.900 --> 00:12:31.410 robin murez: and they quoted that as the opinion. 132 00:12:31.610 --> 00:12:40.129 robin murez: So i'm like, No. But yeah. So I think we we did our duty in getting the truth out. And 133 00:12:40.530 --> 00:12:41.670 robin murez: you did. 134 00:12:41.710 --> 00:12:46.220 timrudnick: You've done a fabulous job, Robin, You've been fantastic. 135 00:12:46.310 --> 00:12:47.430 betsygoldman: I agree. 136 00:12:47.850 --> 00:12:59.640 robin murez: Yeah, it it definitely was a lot of work and didn't do it alone, you know. Oh, no, there's nobody else here yet. You know everybody 137 00:12:59.770 --> 00:13:01.720 robin murez: contributed to helping us 138 00:13:01.750 --> 00:13:19.520 robin murez: find the documents that you know initially rec at the beaches and harbors, with not forthcoming with the information. But you know, our community members who were actively involved helped to find the documents, and then 139 00:13:19.810 --> 00:13:24.619 robin murez: and then, yeah, I read them through and found where the false information was, and 140 00:13:24.900 --> 00:13:33.230 robin murez: and then just brought it to the light of everyone possible. And then, you know, we had people in other departments of the city, who also were 141 00:13:33.340 --> 00:13:35.680 robin murez: on our side and sharing 142 00:13:36.010 --> 00:13:41.399 robin murez: important information with me to help overcome this craziness. But yeah, it was. 143 00:13:42.710 --> 00:13:47.800 robin murez: It was the whole crazy effort. The false information was all over the place. 144 00:13:49.090 --> 00:13:53.269 robin murez: and without you it wouldn't have happened. 145 00:13:53.610 --> 00:14:06.630 robin murez: you know. I do think you're right, and I, and and thank you for recognizing it, because, you know, when you do hard work on something that you feel passionately about it, it it feels good to have 146 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:11.410 robin murez: saved an icon of the Venice. I think you know we can all be proud. 147 00:14:12.680 --> 00:14:23.329 robin murez: But yeah, I mean, it was just such craziness. You know. There were all these different departments of the county that had that they were kind of giving all the false information. Just so it was 148 00:14:23.350 --> 00:14:31.460 robin murez: County Department of Public Works and County building and safety, and they all were like complicit. 149 00:14:32.400 --> 00:14:36.730 robin murez: So yeah, you know, and I got the minute from the 150 00:14:37.020 --> 00:14:38.000 robin murez: Counties 151 00:14:38.310 --> 00:14:39.510 robin murez: Commission that 152 00:14:39.650 --> 00:14:43.790 robin murez: commission of beaches and hardware meetings. 153 00:14:43.920 --> 00:14:52.409 robin murez: and it was clear, looking through the minutes which they were, they were voluminous, I mean. It took a while to go through them, but to see where they were 154 00:14:52.900 --> 00:14:57.500 robin murez: knowingly putting out this false information with, you know, just 155 00:14:57.720 --> 00:15:00.789 robin murez: shocking to me in my naive way. 156 00:15:01.330 --> 00:15:02.910 robin murez: But yeah, we got him. 157 00:15:03.670 --> 00:15:07.259 robin murez: So i'm really glad that we've saved it, and 158 00:15:09.390 --> 00:15:11.810 robin murez: well, sun is not on yet. But 159 00:15:11.980 --> 00:15:12.690 robin murez: I mean 160 00:15:12.900 --> 00:15:14.850 robin murez: we can again just 161 00:15:15.540 --> 00:15:20.070 robin murez: say that what our next steps are 162 00:15:20.590 --> 00:15:25.109 robin murez: our, you know, in keeping with what we've been doing. We need to 163 00:15:25.170 --> 00:15:27.469 robin murez: see about getting 164 00:15:27.550 --> 00:15:30.430 robin murez: estimate on what the cost of. 165 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:36.699 robin murez: you know. Retrofitting would be, so that we can put together business 166 00:15:36.770 --> 00:15:38.800 robin murez: proposal for Recon Park. 167 00:15:39.010 --> 00:15:40.020 robin murez: and 168 00:15:40.590 --> 00:15:48.000 robin murez: and so that's what we were doing yesterday, having contractors up there and 169 00:15:48.460 --> 00:15:51.410 robin murez: Tim, you know that while we were there 170 00:15:51.460 --> 00:15:53.939 robin murez: they were able to find 171 00:15:54.020 --> 00:15:59.520 robin murez: blueprint print out some of the blueprints, and so that'll make it 172 00:16:00.220 --> 00:16:07.900 robin murez: far easier for architects or contractors to come together with some ideas and estimates of how 173 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:11.010 robin murez: the Ada compliance can be 174 00:16:11.110 --> 00:16:15.810 robin murez: made. And and you know, whatever how we put in the 175 00:16:15.850 --> 00:16:17.190 robin murez: an elevator. 176 00:16:17.620 --> 00:16:18.849 robin murez: and how are you 177 00:16:18.980 --> 00:16:20.000 robin murez: make it 178 00:16:20.430 --> 00:16:22.590 robin murez: workable hopefully, as 179 00:16:22.730 --> 00:16:33.030 robin murez: I'm. Using an observation tower. But if we can't at least to have it saved to, there's some talk of also lifeguards. Maybe you know, having 180 00:16:33.250 --> 00:16:41.529 robin murez: ideas of how they could use it, you know. I mean I I just feel like it needs to be safe, and we've done that part, and if we can 181 00:16:41.670 --> 00:16:46.560 robin murez: make it for public use, that would be totally awesome. 182 00:16:46.630 --> 00:16:51.439 robin murez: Yeah. So we'll keep working on that. And, Tim, if you have, do you have a like 183 00:16:51.620 --> 00:16:52.490 robin murez: any 184 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:57.120 robin murez: business people involved with the oceanarium. 185 00:16:58.010 --> 00:16:59.240 robin murez: So 186 00:17:00.470 --> 00:17:06.829 robin murez: yeah, so in order to put together like this business plan. 187 00:17:07.280 --> 00:17:12.589 robin murez: it would be really helpful if there was somebody who might help us with that. There's somebody who 188 00:17:12.690 --> 00:17:15.569 robin murez: like nose has any experience with doing. 189 00:17:15.910 --> 00:17:17.639 robin murez: You know, a business plan. 190 00:17:17.890 --> 00:17:25.069 robin murez: I I did one for the carousel that that you know that I submitted to recon Park, and I got help from one of our 191 00:17:25.130 --> 00:17:27.220 robin murez: Carousel Board members who 192 00:17:27.660 --> 00:17:31.989 robin murez: you know, finance person. So yeah, they would. 193 00:17:32.180 --> 00:17:34.889 robin murez: Somebody who you think might be good to work with. 194 00:17:35.190 --> 00:17:52.070 timrudnick: I know somebody very, very good, but I I think he's extremely busy at the moment. He's he's working on saving a a 5 business that that produces. B. Hive facilities and things like that. It's. It's the biggest in the country. 195 00:17:52.500 --> 00:17:57.169 timrudnick: and he's working to save us from going under, and he's been working night and day. So he. 196 00:17:57.690 --> 00:18:07.939 timrudnick: I I hesitate to ask him to do anything more for. But I want to talk to him definitely. He's very, very good, very successful businessman. 197 00:18:08.420 --> 00:18:10.219 robin murez: Okay, yeah. But 198 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:14.890 robin murez: you know, and if he is too busy. Maybe there's someone else. 199 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:20.730 robin murez: Yeah, yeah, I mean again, I do have some experiences. And I think also. 200 00:18:21.210 --> 00:18:23.500 robin murez: you know, Todd, who has. 201 00:18:23.850 --> 00:18:36.069 robin murez: you know, the neighbor who has worked on this with us. He is quite savvy in business matter, so he may be able to help, even though that's not specifically his field. And you know whatever. But I think if we. 202 00:18:36.290 --> 00:18:37.710 robin murez: if we can think of 203 00:18:37.970 --> 00:18:43.410 robin murez: maybe just one other person who could help it could be good. Also. 204 00:18:44.110 --> 00:18:45.759 robin murez: you know that various 205 00:18:46.500 --> 00:18:49.860 robin murez: agencies, whatever. Yesterday the 206 00:18:49.900 --> 00:18:51.660 robin murez: La 207 00:18:52.360 --> 00:18:54.920 robin murez: Conservancy yes. 208 00:18:55.060 --> 00:18:56.880 robin murez: came to the 209 00:18:56.900 --> 00:19:02.930 robin murez: and she's. I've got a phone call with her today, and 210 00:19:03.050 --> 00:19:08.630 robin murez: she has some ideas of other sources of funding, of grant funding, and so 211 00:19:08.650 --> 00:19:13.429 robin murez: so she may also have. I think, she said, they also know of. Maybe 212 00:19:13.460 --> 00:19:18.589 robin murez: when she said, they know, like contractors. I don't know that we need a contractor. It seems like maybe we're good on that now. 213 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:24.910 robin murez: but we're architect. But but you know, maybe she's got other help for how to 214 00:19:25.010 --> 00:19:31.059 robin murez: right these grants to actually get them funded, because there is an art to that that I don't know. 215 00:19:31.460 --> 00:19:33.909 robin murez: So that would be helpful. 216 00:19:34.180 --> 00:19:37.670 robin murez: Hopefully. Some is still gonna come 217 00:19:39.350 --> 00:19:41.670 robin murez: again. I don't it's nothing 218 00:19:41.990 --> 00:19:46.240 robin murez: There's public information is already out there that 219 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:50.470 robin murez: the walking tour app that we submitted 220 00:19:50.790 --> 00:19:55.119 robin murez: a request to the Bmc. To for funding. 221 00:19:55.580 --> 00:20:00.289 robin murez: went before the Budget Committee the other night in. I 222 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:04.309 robin murez: amended it in a smaller format. 223 00:20:04.830 --> 00:20:07.800 robin murez: After talking also with the 224 00:20:08.750 --> 00:20:16.420 robin murez: the maker of that app. I think that we can do it all for quite inexpensively. And so we are 225 00:20:18.230 --> 00:20:20.059 robin murez: waiting to get 226 00:20:20.560 --> 00:20:23.710 robin murez: well. So it it passed the Budget Committee, though, with 227 00:20:23.740 --> 00:20:27.810 robin murez: just total crazy fiasco things going on again 228 00:20:27.870 --> 00:20:32.479 robin murez: again. It's public information. You can pull up the recording of that meeting. 229 00:20:32.890 --> 00:20:34.880 robin murez: They submitted the 230 00:20:34.910 --> 00:20:36.709 robin murez: well, our old 231 00:20:36.780 --> 00:20:38.770 robin murez: application, instead of 232 00:20:38.840 --> 00:20:53.539 robin murez: the new amended one, which caused a lot of confusion they brought up. So I've been asking the treasurer who wants that meeting to give me feedback on any questions he might have, so that we could answer them or 233 00:20:53.550 --> 00:20:59.150 robin murez: find out, find the answers. He gave me nothing in advance. But then, on the meeting. 234 00:20:59.250 --> 00:21:08.949 robin murez: they come up with these new issues that are not issues, misrepresenting things, not understanding the project, apparently not having read 235 00:21:09.210 --> 00:21:13.690 robin murez: the proposal, and again they have the old one on there. So then, oh, my God! 236 00:21:14.260 --> 00:21:16.869 robin murez: It was again just a total like. 237 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:20.019 robin murez: you know. That's the I know you don't like coming on the zoom 238 00:21:21.070 --> 00:21:23.450 robin murez: for good reason. I mean 239 00:21:23.840 --> 00:21:30.589 robin murez: It's just, you know. And then I get cut off, and they let people talk. We don't know what they're talking about. 240 00:21:30.620 --> 00:21:36.700 robin murez: and you know they're saying the wrong thing, and they're looking at the wrong information, and 241 00:21:37.090 --> 00:21:41.800 robin murez: it's just so annoying, and it's so bizarre like, what is there 242 00:21:42.060 --> 00:21:46.109 robin murez: agenda like? Why are they trying to 243 00:21:46.330 --> 00:21:47.870 robin murez: prevent 244 00:21:48.050 --> 00:21:52.029 robin murez: project? That is only beneficial to Venice? 245 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:53.470 robin murez: And 246 00:21:53.940 --> 00:22:01.180 robin murez: you know, instead of on some projects they like. Let them go right through there. There was a request for funds 247 00:22:01.380 --> 00:22:03.820 robin murez: on that meeting, where 248 00:22:05.460 --> 00:22:09.750 robin murez: the request was to get $875 249 00:22:10.040 --> 00:22:11.910 robin murez: for buying 250 00:22:12.150 --> 00:22:14.190 robin murez: 5 logoed 251 00:22:15.890 --> 00:22:17.030 robin murez: tablecloth 252 00:22:17.140 --> 00:22:18.750 robin murez: for the Neighborhood Council. 253 00:22:18.850 --> 00:22:22.709 robin murez: 5 table costs. They would take $875 254 00:22:24.290 --> 00:22:24.900 robin murez: like 255 00:22:25.190 --> 00:22:29.409 robin murez: That's just me is astronomical. You can buy a table password 256 00:22:29.470 --> 00:22:39.259 robin murez: 10 or maybe 20 bucks, and you can put a logo on it. You know. You get iron on transfer paper these days, and you could put anything on. 257 00:22:39.390 --> 00:22:44.089 robin murez: I didn't have a chance to stay, or if you want to smoke, screen it, you can get it so screened on 258 00:22:44.460 --> 00:22:45.830 robin murez: my last of that. 259 00:22:46.060 --> 00:22:52.640 robin murez: and they would ahead and approve that without their being any supporting information, no 260 00:22:52.680 --> 00:23:01.339 robin murez: information of what the dimensions of these are what the material that they're made out of. I mean they must be made at a goal. You know what the 261 00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:04.909 robin murez: no information at all, but they they 262 00:23:05.050 --> 00:23:06.150 robin murez: they 263 00:23:06.660 --> 00:23:11.640 robin murez: voted to, you know, pass that. And then they gave all these like 264 00:23:12.280 --> 00:23:13.560 robin murez: crazy 265 00:23:13.610 --> 00:23:23.820 robin murez: obstacles in the way, questioning things for our walking to our app that I have all the documents for, and so, and 266 00:23:24.080 --> 00:23:28.200 robin murez: and it would only cost 49, 99 a month. To do 267 00:23:28.410 --> 00:23:29.150 robin murez: so 268 00:23:29.350 --> 00:23:31.669 robin murez: 49, 99 a month 269 00:23:31.690 --> 00:23:39.810 robin murez: to create this walking tour app versus $875 for 5 table costs. 270 00:23:41.550 --> 00:23:42.320 Yeah. 271 00:23:42.900 --> 00:23:44.889 robin murez: but you know that there are 272 00:23:45.140 --> 00:23:51.699 robin murez: some for some reason, they just anything I say. They seem to want to fight again. 273 00:23:53.220 --> 00:23:56.870 robin murez: So yeah, we still don't have time here. 274 00:23:59.780 --> 00:24:05.150 robin murez: I I think you know what we would also do with this meeting is 275 00:24:05.310 --> 00:24:06.450 robin murez: talk about 276 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:10.909 robin murez: past proposals and where we should go, and 277 00:24:10.950 --> 00:24:14.840 robin murez: and and I think we can also discuss. Okay. So we put out that 278 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:23.190 robin murez: petition that collected over 1,300 signatures. 279 00:24:24.060 --> 00:24:29.799 robin murez: I can send an update that will be like an email that goes to everybody who signed a petition. 280 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:31.710 robin murez: So both of you did. 281 00:24:31.820 --> 00:24:36.939 robin murez: And I'm just wondering. And again, this is not necessarily in kind of official 282 00:24:37.790 --> 00:24:44.580 robin murez: meeting, business or committee business. But just to think about what we might want to put in that update. 283 00:24:45.270 --> 00:24:57.899 robin murez: I was thinking we could update, hand out that email, saying, If you want to stay in touch on this and other related historic projects. Please send your email because I don't have everybody's email. 284 00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:02.599 robin murez: The only way I can send this update is through that change.org 285 00:25:03.150 --> 00:25:05.840 robin murez: program, and it doesn't let me. 286 00:25:06.180 --> 00:25:14.620 robin murez: It doesn't show me what people's emails are, or phone numbers or anything. So I thought we could ask if people want to be in touch what their emails are. 287 00:25:16.140 --> 00:25:18.450 robin murez: and then I thought we would tell them that 288 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:22.030 robin murez: we've, you know, stopped the demolition Hallelujah! 289 00:25:22.360 --> 00:25:25.940 robin murez: And then I thought maybe we should also 290 00:25:26.670 --> 00:25:32.420 robin murez: suggest, you know, related projects that they might be interested in. 291 00:25:32.920 --> 00:25:37.580 robin murez: so that we immediately, you know, get who never read that email with 292 00:25:37.750 --> 00:25:40.479 robin murez: would know about, you know, other projects. And 293 00:25:41.360 --> 00:25:49.260 robin murez: so one of those would be. This committee already passed, a few other motions, one of them being to create that 294 00:25:50.750 --> 00:25:53.700 robin murez: historic parklet. That would be 295 00:25:53.850 --> 00:25:55.390 robin murez: Grand Canal 296 00:25:55.740 --> 00:25:59.729 robin murez: between North and South and Boulevard with, You know the trolley cartridge. 297 00:26:01.170 --> 00:26:04.560 robin murez: You both know what i'm talking about. 298 00:26:04.820 --> 00:26:05.710 timrudnick: Oh. 299 00:26:06.330 --> 00:26:07.329 timrudnick: where is it 300 00:26:08.050 --> 00:26:15.409 robin murez: so? You know there's that little section of Grand Canal that goes between north and south. 301 00:26:15.430 --> 00:26:17.830 robin murez: right and the original historic 302 00:26:17.890 --> 00:26:20.349 robin murez: red car Bridge is there. 303 00:26:20.820 --> 00:26:24.269 robin murez: and so our committee has submitted 304 00:26:24.290 --> 00:26:31.299 robin murez: a motion to that land on the bank there. That section there is. 305 00:26:31.940 --> 00:26:35.399 It's currently considered 306 00:26:35.580 --> 00:26:37.059 robin murez: public right of way. 307 00:26:37.670 --> 00:26:45.570 robin murez: So what we asked is, whether is it that could be made into being, recon Park land 308 00:26:45.800 --> 00:26:50.269 robin murez: and make it into a little park, so that people can sit on the banks of the canal. 309 00:26:50.360 --> 00:26:57.780 robin murez: You know I have some tables and shares there, and have a little key up, and have it nicely landscape and have complex out that. 310 00:26:57.990 --> 00:27:04.910 robin murez: you know. Give you the historic information, because you know it's a very historic site there. 311 00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:06.080 robin murez: So 312 00:27:07.910 --> 00:27:09.530 robin murez: it's also 313 00:27:10.530 --> 00:27:15.759 robin murez: they that monster on the Median proposal that you know, bomb and push through. 314 00:27:16.300 --> 00:27:19.580 robin murez: You both know what i'm talking about 315 00:27:20.120 --> 00:27:23.090 robin murez: that, would 316 00:27:23.550 --> 00:27:26.770 robin murez: it? It does not comply with, You know there are. 317 00:27:27.150 --> 00:27:28.590 robin murez: There are 318 00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:30.770 robin murez: whatever you call like 319 00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:34.950 robin murez: regulations that were passed by the Coastal Commission and 320 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:40.730 robin murez: the army core of engineers in the city of La, all in agreement. If they have, that portion 321 00:27:40.800 --> 00:27:48.809 robin murez: of the canal is to be, and the bridge are is there. They are recognized as historic, and that you could 322 00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:52.039 robin murez: maybe make sure. I'm saying the right thing. 323 00:27:52.110 --> 00:27:57.270 robin murez: They they're on the historic, the National historic Registry. How are they? 324 00:27:59.650 --> 00:28:02.510 betsygoldman: The national? I think. 325 00:28:02.940 --> 00:28:03.780 robin murez: Yeah. 326 00:28:04.140 --> 00:28:06.790 robin murez: So you know they're to be protected. But 327 00:28:06.910 --> 00:28:08.580 robin murez: the one in. 328 00:28:08.930 --> 00:28:09.810 robin murez: you know. 329 00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:13.670 robin murez: plan to build that monster on the Median 330 00:28:13.840 --> 00:28:18.950 robin murez: does not comply with the description of how that area is supposed to be 331 00:28:20.360 --> 00:28:25.580 robin murez: protected and maintained. But this little creating little parklet would do that. 332 00:28:25.990 --> 00:28:31.369 robin murez: So it's another reason that it's kind of a timely project, and would be great to get 333 00:28:31.630 --> 00:28:34.810 robin murez: a lot of support for. And 334 00:28:35.190 --> 00:28:37.970 robin murez: since you know it's sent that over to 335 00:28:38.620 --> 00:28:39.880 robin murez: Well to 336 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:48.479 robin murez: at the time on, and was still in office. I knew it wouldn't go anywhere there, but now we've got Tracey Park, and I also sent it to record parks, and 337 00:28:48.620 --> 00:28:49.529 robin murez: you know we 338 00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:52.839 robin murez: we got blindsided by the 339 00:28:52.900 --> 00:28:53.940 robin murez: Lifeguards 340 00:28:54.100 --> 00:28:59.290 robin murez: issue that needed immediate attention. But now maybe we could get back to 341 00:28:59.580 --> 00:29:02.610 robin murez: working on creating that little historic park. 342 00:29:03.860 --> 00:29:05.550 robin murez: So 343 00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:06.420 robin murez: yeah. 344 00:29:06.630 --> 00:29:15.210 betsygoldman: I think you need to look for Members Committee members who will be more dependable on attending meetings. 345 00:29:16.620 --> 00:29:17.400 robin murez: Yep. 346 00:29:17.770 --> 00:29:19.310 betsygoldman: because this is 347 00:29:20.990 --> 00:29:21.730 robin murez: Yep. 348 00:29:21.800 --> 00:29:23.130 betsygoldman: this is wrong. 349 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:24.110 robin murez: Yep. 350 00:29:25.580 --> 00:29:26.649 robin murez: I agree. 351 00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:32.800 robin murez: and in that regard to him, if you want it to be a committee member. 352 00:29:33.120 --> 00:29:40.940 timrudnick: I I am so stretched I hate that I hate that. I'm flattered to be asked, but i'm so stretched that these days 353 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:45.710 timrudnick: with my 354 00:29:45.950 --> 00:29:47.310 betsygoldman: I hate to. 355 00:29:49.800 --> 00:30:00.560 robin murez: Yeah, Well, you and and actually Todd and Mickey have all been very actively involved in these past few months. And 356 00:30:00.660 --> 00:30:03.509 robin murez: I, you know, Scott had said he's 357 00:30:03.970 --> 00:30:08.249 robin murez: more than honored to be on our committee, and he's got like fabulous 358 00:30:08.460 --> 00:30:10.390 connection with 359 00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:11.520 robin murez: Government 360 00:30:11.580 --> 00:30:12.680 robin murez: people. 361 00:30:12.840 --> 00:30:18.140 robin murez: But yeah, it's it's frustrating that he hasn't attended, and then, Brian. 362 00:30:18.500 --> 00:30:20.470 robin murez: he usually attends 363 00:30:20.950 --> 00:30:21.780 betsygoldman: Why it. 364 00:30:22.870 --> 00:30:24.799 robin murez: he said. He would 365 00:30:27.650 --> 00:30:28.860 robin murez: your office. 366 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:33.179 robin murez: I'll try calling Brian I mean, son yet. Also, you know. 367 00:30:33.730 --> 00:30:34.550 robin murez: has 368 00:30:34.660 --> 00:30:38.320 robin murez: the right kind of interest and background. 369 00:30:38.820 --> 00:30:39.870 robin murez: So 370 00:30:40.770 --> 00:30:46.170 robin murez: yeah, it's just, you know. I don't know, Betsy, what do you? What do you think? What do I do? 371 00:30:46.900 --> 00:30:48.389 robin murez: I sent the email go. 372 00:30:50.180 --> 00:30:52.259 robin murez: I also said text messages. 373 00:30:53.120 --> 00:30:55.479 robin murez: People said they were going to participate. 374 00:31:01.650 --> 00:31:05.280 robin murez: I know Brian's actively working. 375 00:31:06.320 --> 00:31:08.330 robin murez: And 376 00:31:23.510 --> 00:31:28.599 robin murez: hey, Brian, it's Robin. We don't have quorum yet for the 377 00:31:28.900 --> 00:31:30.729 robin murez: zoom. So please 378 00:31:30.760 --> 00:31:32.330 robin murez: come on if you can. Thanks, bye. 379 00:31:36.590 --> 00:31:38.419 robin murez: Hey, Sonya, are you there? 380 00:31:39.460 --> 00:31:40.160 I? 381 00:31:44.180 --> 00:31:48.869 robin murez: Oh, okay. So you know what I'm going to do. I can put you on Speaker one 382 00:31:49.020 --> 00:31:52.779 robin murez: and okay. Can you guys hear it on you now. 383 00:31:53.210 --> 00:31:54.660 timrudnick: This slightly. 384 00:31:56.150 --> 00:32:04.339 robin murez: so so on. Yet say something. So i'll take role in. So 385 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:08.860 robin murez: okay, so it is now 1030, 386 00:32:08.930 --> 00:32:11.790 robin murez: 3 am. And we can 387 00:32:12.070 --> 00:32:17.799 robin murez: start the official meeting. I'll take role. 388 00:32:18.500 --> 00:32:21.820 robin murez: Betsy Goldman, Are you here here 389 00:32:22.510 --> 00:32:25.809 robin murez: and Sonya? 390 00:32:25.980 --> 00:32:32.649 robin murez: Okay, and i'm here, Robin Meres. So that is this quorum. That's 3 of our 5 voting members. 391 00:32:33.900 --> 00:32:46.110 robin murez: Scott Mayor is not here, and Brian silver is not here yet, but maybe he will be able to join, and we are honored to have him rednick in the audience. 392 00:32:46.600 --> 00:32:48.999 robin murez: So okay. 393 00:32:49.130 --> 00:32:51.689 robin murez: So the meeting is officially 394 00:32:51.740 --> 00:32:58.549 robin murez: has come to order. We had minutes from the prior meeting that 395 00:32:58.730 --> 00:33:01.200 robin murez: that's he put together. And 396 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:05.080 robin murez: if there's no objection, let 397 00:33:05.630 --> 00:33:10.530 robin murez: adopt those minutes. Is everyone okay with those? I read them, and this looked 398 00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:11.890 robin murez: excellent. 399 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.129 robin murez: So is there any objection to those minutes? 400 00:33:16.170 --> 00:33:17.060 betsygoldman: None. 401 00:33:17.980 --> 00:33:20.140 robin murez: And here and 402 00:33:20.180 --> 00:33:22.080 robin murez: okay. So we adopt a minute. 403 00:33:22.170 --> 00:33:23.430 robin murez: then 404 00:33:23.570 --> 00:33:30.299 robin murez: public comments. So, hey, you get the floor if you want it right now. 405 00:33:30.420 --> 00:33:34.390 robin murez: Tim, but otherwise you can also speak at any time in this meeting. 406 00:33:34.520 --> 00:33:37.249 robin murez: Is there any comment you might want to make 407 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:38.090 robin murez: him? 408 00:33:38.770 --> 00:33:48.560 timrudnick: Well, no, and i'm not to take except i'm so proud of you guys for doing this, since being successful, and it's just been a a. F of inspiration to me. 409 00:33:48.890 --> 00:33:53.390 timrudnick: You're so so dedicated and loyal and 410 00:33:53.530 --> 00:33:57.269 timrudnick: and skilled at working with these people. 411 00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:03.509 timrudnick: So i'm i'm just so thrilled that I feel honored to be working with you guys. 412 00:34:03.740 --> 00:34:05.560 timrudnick: It's it's it's. 413 00:34:05.900 --> 00:34:06.940 robin murez: Yeah. 414 00:34:09.130 --> 00:34:25.060 robin murez: we don't want to let you go so easily. So maybe we can have you, you know. Continue to you know we only do a monthly meeting. This is it 415 00:34:25.340 --> 00:34:26.149 robin murez: awesome? 416 00:34:27.110 --> 00:34:31.359 robin murez: Okay. So then we will go to old business. 417 00:34:31.560 --> 00:34:35.230 robin murez: So updates on our previous motion. 418 00:34:35.250 --> 00:34:41.909 robin murez: So regarding the pagodas and anybody china in at any point. If you have questions, comments. 419 00:34:42.090 --> 00:34:43.060 robin murez: anything. 420 00:34:44.630 --> 00:34:50.469 robin murez: i'll just run down what I know. The pagoda is nothing new that I know of. 421 00:34:50.860 --> 00:35:04.980 robin murez: They are still slated to be repaired. But you know who knows when that will happen? Meanwhile Ocean Front walk is looking better, and then it looks worse. And then what I actually I don't know. If you guys have been out on Ocean Walk recently, but is 422 00:35:05.140 --> 00:35:10.569 robin murez: bustling. There are so many people again at Venice Beach. Good. 423 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:14.889 robin murez: huge numbers of tourists out there. It's bustling. 424 00:35:15.260 --> 00:35:19.279 robin murez: Okay, Our historic parklet motion. 425 00:35:19.350 --> 00:35:23.519 robin murez: That's what I informally just talked about, and 426 00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:27.509 robin murez: that to create the parks between 427 00:35:27.680 --> 00:35:30.829 robin murez: North and south. Then it's full of ours that 428 00:35:31.050 --> 00:35:37.510 robin murez: back. You know the banks of the Grand Canal there, and including the red car 429 00:35:37.610 --> 00:35:39.490 robin murez: historic bridge. 430 00:35:39.600 --> 00:35:43.120 robin murez: And so what i'm wondering is how 431 00:35:43.450 --> 00:35:47.960 robin murez: we sent that motion out. It went to Recon Park. They went to 432 00:35:47.980 --> 00:35:52.060 robin murez: CD. 11 at the time that was born in. Now it's Tracy Park, and 433 00:35:52.230 --> 00:35:56.630 robin murez: I feel like we should try to get some attention to that again. 434 00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:00.100 robin murez: Are you all in favor of that 435 00:36:00.830 --> 00:36:02.759 robin murez: sure. 436 00:36:04.700 --> 00:36:07.449 robin murez: and that's what you were saying. 437 00:36:07.590 --> 00:36:08.439 robin murez: Okay. 438 00:36:08.590 --> 00:36:16.640 robin murez: so we'll try to do that and see. You know, I mentioned that maybe as I do a an update to the 439 00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:19.089 robin murez: people to sign a lifeguard petition. 440 00:36:19.130 --> 00:36:22.849 robin murez: Do you think that's a good idea to mention to them that 441 00:36:23.150 --> 00:36:23.990 robin murez: you know? 442 00:36:24.070 --> 00:36:29.820 robin murez: Give them. This is another project that we're going to work on and give people the opportunity to. 443 00:36:30.090 --> 00:36:33.680 Maybe i'll start a condition for that also. 444 00:36:35.110 --> 00:36:38.340 robin murez: and see if people then want to go find that 445 00:36:39.830 --> 00:36:41.000 robin murez: that sound 446 00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:43.069 robin murez: desirable to 447 00:36:43.870 --> 00:36:44.919 robin murez: you both. 448 00:36:47.770 --> 00:36:49.410 betsygoldman: I don't know. 449 00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:52.859 betsygoldman: I don't. Really. 450 00:36:54.420 --> 00:36:56.149 betsygoldman: I have to think about it. 451 00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:57.660 robin murez: Okay. 452 00:36:58.750 --> 00:37:05.470 robin murez: Okay. Do you have any initial clusters or minuses, I mean, I think we can, you know, again send the upstate and say 453 00:37:06.160 --> 00:37:09.970 robin murez: for your information, here's another historic 454 00:37:10.410 --> 00:37:13.479 robin murez: landmark that we are looking to 455 00:37:13.860 --> 00:37:15.459 robin murez: preserve, and 456 00:37:16.350 --> 00:37:17.950 robin murez: you know 457 00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:19.540 robin murez: I don't know I 458 00:37:19.650 --> 00:37:23.680 robin murez: you know, embellish, or whatever, so that people would know what it is. 459 00:37:23.970 --> 00:37:29.230 betsygoldman: I don't know. Maybe i'm getting my own personal, my own personal feelings 460 00:37:29.260 --> 00:37:31.989 betsygoldman: of being overwhelmed that sometimes 461 00:37:32.310 --> 00:37:33.180 robin murez: oh. 462 00:37:34.660 --> 00:37:38.290 robin murez: so just like workload aspect. Is that what you're thinking? 463 00:37:39.200 --> 00:37:40.989 betsygoldman: No, it's just 464 00:37:42.540 --> 00:37:45.930 betsygoldman: putting too much. Well, never mind, never mind. 465 00:37:48.860 --> 00:37:51.309 timrudnick: We all feel that way. See. 466 00:37:51.660 --> 00:37:53.840 timrudnick: we all that's it's 467 00:37:54.560 --> 00:37:56.469 timrudnick: I totally understand. 468 00:37:57.080 --> 00:38:01.110 robin murez: Well, I mean, I definitely have been like I I never. 469 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:03.630 robin murez: You know the Life Guard Tower 470 00:38:03.750 --> 00:38:09.710 robin murez: just blindsided me. I had no idea that was something that was going to 471 00:38:09.910 --> 00:38:19.379 robin murez: need any attention, and then, yeah, required a whole lot of attention, and getting the word out for the last 2 months. We already tapped that motion. 472 00:38:19.610 --> 00:38:22.680 betsygoldman: but focusing on the tower. 473 00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:30.220 betsygoldman: for the petition is fine. But then asking people to support other, you know other issues. 474 00:38:30.660 --> 00:38:31.390 robin murez: Yeah. 475 00:38:31.430 --> 00:38:32.430 betsygoldman: I just 476 00:38:32.610 --> 00:38:35.580 betsygoldman: I think it should be one at a time. 477 00:38:36.190 --> 00:38:39.019 robin murez: Yeah, but the thing is okay. We now have 478 00:38:39.650 --> 00:38:42.989 robin murez: access to 1,300 people who have 479 00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:45.750 robin murez: what said that they want to 480 00:38:46.850 --> 00:38:50.689 robin murez: see if a historic iphone, and then it can be saved 481 00:38:50.860 --> 00:38:59.330 robin murez: If we don't do a follow up. We don't have access to those 1,300 people. We don't have their email. We, you know it's just like 482 00:38:59.970 --> 00:39:02.059 robin murez: with a touch of you know 483 00:39:02.160 --> 00:39:03.500 robin murez: the computer 484 00:39:03.940 --> 00:39:08.399 betsygoldman: I can contact. That's fine. You can do it, do it. 485 00:39:09.240 --> 00:39:11.729 robin murez: Yeah, that's all. I'm saying it's just okay 486 00:39:12.090 --> 00:39:18.849 robin murez: to try to not lose them. I mean, we Won't. Get that many my vote. You have my vote. 487 00:39:18.870 --> 00:39:20.599 robin murez: Okay, how about you, Sonya? 488 00:39:22.050 --> 00:39:23.460 robin murez: So how are you there. 489 00:39:25.630 --> 00:39:27.490 robin murez: Uh-oh! 490 00:39:27.680 --> 00:39:30.149 robin murez: All right, Sonya, Are you with us? Still. 491 00:39:31.900 --> 00:39:42.130 robin murez: I think she must have walked away from it. It's not something that necessarily fires a vote. So whatever. Okay, i'll continue on. But, Sonya, if you're here, please chime in. 492 00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:47.509 robin murez: Okay. Then we also had. Oh, okay. So 493 00:39:47.580 --> 00:39:48.719 robin murez: here we just 494 00:39:48.770 --> 00:39:53.110 robin murez: wanting to see that you are in favor of a follow up 495 00:39:53.490 --> 00:39:58.200 robin murez: email going out to the 1,300 people who sign the 496 00:39:58.460 --> 00:39:59.990 Lifeguard 497 00:40:00.710 --> 00:40:07.440 robin murez: Save the Life Card petition. Yeah, to give them information that we also are working on 498 00:40:07.570 --> 00:40:13.240 robin murez: saving the historic Canal, the Grand Canal and and 499 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.640 robin murez: Red Line Bridge. 500 00:40:16.200 --> 00:40:19.229 robin murez: So, yeah, definitely, you know, I 501 00:40:19.740 --> 00:40:20.950 robin murez: I, 502 00:40:21.270 --> 00:40:24.239 robin murez: one of the first to want to put this 503 00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:25.180 that. 504 00:40:25.560 --> 00:40:29.859 robin murez: Yeah, we were talking about the not sure exactly. 505 00:40:30.300 --> 00:40:32.990 robin murez: Yeah. Okay. Cool. So let's 506 00:40:33.070 --> 00:40:40.569 robin murez: I'll try to get something out on that we'll see how we can deal with it. I mean, I also. I think that to your comment is 507 00:40:40.750 --> 00:40:43.640 robin murez: related to you know I don't want to 508 00:40:44.720 --> 00:40:48.000 robin murez: keep bringing things to record part unless 509 00:40:48.160 --> 00:40:49.250 robin murez: you know 510 00:40:49.690 --> 00:40:51.660 robin murez: we we don't want to 511 00:40:52.310 --> 00:40:54.909 robin murez: in any way over them. But 512 00:40:55.210 --> 00:40:58.949 robin murez: these things are happening now, so if we don't 513 00:40:59.330 --> 00:41:00.649 robin murez: address them. 514 00:41:02.230 --> 00:41:03.620 robin murez: we're going to lose them. 515 00:41:03.770 --> 00:41:05.799 betsygoldman: Okay, all right. 516 00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:13.559 robin murez: And you know. And regarding that also. So we've got several of these things that. 517 00:41:13.680 --> 00:41:18.859 robin murez: or on our, you know old business. And Tracy Park being new. 518 00:41:18.890 --> 00:41:24.149 robin murez: she doesn't know about them, and I would really like to get a meeting with her to go over 519 00:41:24.220 --> 00:41:25.370 robin murez: all of them. 520 00:41:25.590 --> 00:41:28.129 robin murez: and I don't know if that's something that 521 00:41:29.160 --> 00:41:32.470 robin murez: any of you would join me in if we can 522 00:41:32.610 --> 00:41:34.950 robin murez: get it. You know as a zoom. 523 00:41:36.850 --> 00:41:43.800 robin murez: I, you know, but I think that would be really good to do so that we inform her of what the historic 524 00:41:44.340 --> 00:41:48.479 robin murez: sites are in Venice, and what you know we're hoping to 525 00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:53.350 robin murez: safe. Because, again, a city Council person has a tremendous amount of power. 526 00:41:53.740 --> 00:41:59.079 robin murez: Would any of you like to join if we can get a meeting with her. 527 00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:03.200 robin murez: I thought you would like to 528 00:42:03.310 --> 00:42:05.560 robin murez: great me. 529 00:42:06.410 --> 00:42:09.430 robin murez: We get acquainted with her 530 00:42:10.460 --> 00:42:13.720 robin murez: for that project and for my own so 531 00:42:14.270 --> 00:42:20.829 robin murez: right well for your own. So that wouldn't be like committee as such. But I mean. 532 00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:23.570 robin murez: I think you know that 533 00:42:24.200 --> 00:42:31.909 robin murez: No. Just to be acquainted with her. Yeah, no one. So I know where she's coming from, and 534 00:42:32.020 --> 00:42:33.739 robin murez: and she knows what 535 00:42:34.680 --> 00:42:39.930 robin murez: what we want to do where we're coming from. 536 00:42:40.380 --> 00:42:54.070 robin murez: Your own is actually getting historic designation for a property, and then it so it doesn't come under it right. It doesn't come under our committee as such, because it's not a public place. 537 00:42:54.160 --> 00:42:55.069 robin murez: but 538 00:42:55.550 --> 00:42:58.900 robin murez: it's publicly visible. It's in the you know, public 539 00:42:59.060 --> 00:43:00.850 robin murez: domain, so 540 00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:04.450 robin murez: I mean I i'm from Abbey Kenny's house. It would be 541 00:43:05.250 --> 00:43:07.120 robin murez: It would make, you know. 542 00:43:08.770 --> 00:43:12.670 robin murez: Yeah, I've drawn more attention to having to. Both. 543 00:43:12.690 --> 00:43:18.520 robin murez: Both structures have a Kenny South and are there what reach us out? 544 00:43:19.060 --> 00:43:22.609 robin murez: Yeah. But most structures in themselves 545 00:43:22.730 --> 00:43:32.460 robin murez: have historic value. I was there yesterday, and it's just. I just couldn't believe how many more 546 00:43:35.010 --> 00:43:40.100 robin murez: are. Well, they're not even glass anymore. They're just going up. 547 00:43:42.130 --> 00:43:44.870 robin murez: Yeah. Well, that's happening. Yeah. 548 00:43:45.290 --> 00:43:53.189 robin murez: And and the and the cool craftsmen houses that are being torn down. I know 549 00:43:53.540 --> 00:43:56.619 robin murez: the last time I went down a certain block. There was 550 00:43:56.910 --> 00:43:58.330 robin murez: a pop up. 551 00:43:58.530 --> 00:43:59.959 robin murez: I just. 552 00:44:00.650 --> 00:44:02.639 robin murez: and I feel like you come back. 553 00:44:02.740 --> 00:44:09.579 robin murez: And I went, and yesterday I went down the same block, and there are 2 new boxes. 554 00:44:10.300 --> 00:44:12.249 robin murez: So yeah. 555 00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:14.930 robin murez: Oh. 556 00:44:14.950 --> 00:44:21.089 robin murez: and actually, you've pointed out to me the cottages on Dell that are currently all boarded up. 557 00:44:21.300 --> 00:44:22.140 robin murez: And 558 00:44:22.640 --> 00:44:33.049 robin murez: you know what i'm talking about. So I don't know for sure but somebody I thought somebody else asking about it online, and I don't know, Betsy, if you're. 559 00:44:33.110 --> 00:44:38.549 robin murez: if you are able to check. But again, this is not public property. It's. 560 00:44:39.020 --> 00:44:44.079 robin murez: Those are privately on cottages, but they it's one of those whole series of 561 00:44:44.240 --> 00:44:56.339 robin murez: little cottages that are like connected. And so someone online said that they thought that they're being that they're being renovated that the insides are being renovated. 562 00:44:56.440 --> 00:45:00.020 robin murez: So I'm: I'm hoping they will. 563 00:45:00.160 --> 00:45:03.350 robin murez: Right? Exactly. Yeah. 564 00:45:05.540 --> 00:45:11.879 robin murez: Okay. So then, on our old business on the agenda, we also had the colonnade restoration 565 00:45:12.030 --> 00:45:14.190 robin murez: regarding that 566 00:45:14.740 --> 00:45:23.879 robin murez: we haven't done anything more with that. But Brian mentioned to me, and I don't know the details of it that he is working with a 567 00:45:24.220 --> 00:45:27.669 robin murez: architect, designer, builder whatever 568 00:45:27.980 --> 00:45:30.150 robin murez: for a property on. 569 00:45:30.220 --> 00:45:32.549 robin murez: I think, he said, on Market 570 00:45:32.620 --> 00:45:36.279 robin murez: Street, between Pacific and 571 00:45:36.890 --> 00:45:40.169 robin murez: I think that's where he said 572 00:45:40.720 --> 00:45:42.920 robin murez: that. And then they're going to put 573 00:45:42.980 --> 00:45:44.919 robin murez: a call of data. 574 00:45:45.710 --> 00:45:50.930 robin murez: So I said, oh, well, maybe that could be beneficial to our 575 00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:58.149 robin murez: project to getting. You know the historic capital, you know a mold made, and that and he just went. Yeah. 576 00:45:58.460 --> 00:46:05.390 robin murez: So, anyway, maybe that will be something that can benefit our effort to restore the colonnade. 577 00:46:05.620 --> 00:46:07.130 robin murez: And 578 00:46:07.940 --> 00:46:10.580 and so we'll have to, you know. 579 00:46:10.600 --> 00:46:12.970 robin murez: Stay tuned in. He does. Yeah. 580 00:46:13.270 --> 00:46:15.189 robin murez: I have a comment. 581 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:17.760 robin murez: Having said, we. 582 00:46:18.130 --> 00:46:22.370 robin murez: our have found through the year that the colonates 583 00:46:22.570 --> 00:46:23.220 robin murez: then 584 00:46:23.540 --> 00:46:27.560 robin murez: or around the top, have to be recurrent. 585 00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:32.620 robin murez: Can we find a company that won't? Throw away the most, and you've been 586 00:46:32.870 --> 00:46:35.279 robin murez: all that money for the home? They say 587 00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:43.120 robin murez: I don't think it's because of the company as such. I 588 00:46:43.590 --> 00:46:53.529 robin murez: made moles myself, and well, my X used to make large architectural ones just like that, and it's the material itself that it's integrate. 589 00:46:54.040 --> 00:47:00.010 robin murez: So yeah, in order to get good detail, you have to use a material that is. 590 00:47:00.250 --> 00:47:01.500 robin murez: you know, like a. 591 00:47:02.120 --> 00:47:18.370 robin murez: It's a rubbery kind of material, and they just don't last forever it. They have a hard shell behind it, you know fiberglass shell, and inside that fiberglass cell. There's this rubbery material that will pick up all the details of 592 00:47:18.450 --> 00:47:26.090 robin murez: you know the capital, and it's just. They only relax for so many users and for so many years. 593 00:47:26.330 --> 00:47:29.949 robin murez: Yeah, you know, they crack. And you know how 594 00:47:30.150 --> 00:47:37.719 robin murez: rubber material. Yeah. So that's I think, the main issue. But I mean, that's why I once we. 595 00:47:37.790 --> 00:47:44.419 robin murez: if we can get that started, we would try to do as many as possible right away, so that 596 00:47:44.530 --> 00:47:47.330 robin murez: we get good use out of a mold. 597 00:47:47.870 --> 00:47:48.830 Yeah. 598 00:47:48.940 --> 00:48:00.539 robin murez: So one on the corner there a winward and the Pacific, I guess i'll from the corner there and save off. One is 599 00:48:00.730 --> 00:48:02.540 robin murez: like. 600 00:48:03.110 --> 00:48:05.290 robin murez: Yeah. And 601 00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:07.000 robin murez: now i'm 602 00:48:07.350 --> 00:48:08.319 from level. 603 00:48:08.600 --> 00:48:11.840 robin murez: may have said what we could do. 604 00:48:11.870 --> 00:48:14.220 robin murez: but maybe we could just. 605 00:48:15.150 --> 00:48:20.800 robin murez: I've spoken to the owner of that building that Mona. 606 00:48:22.130 --> 00:48:25.499 robin murez: i'm not thinking, you guys know. 607 00:48:25.630 --> 00:48:26.830 robin murez: Yeah. 608 00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:29.089 robin murez: Robert. 609 00:48:29.160 --> 00:48:35.439 robin murez: Yeah. Yeah, Roger Webster. Thanks. So I I spoke to him about it specifically, and he said 610 00:48:35.520 --> 00:48:39.370 robin murez: it was just like. No, I don't want to do anything. It just always breaks again. 611 00:48:39.530 --> 00:48:41.199 robin murez: Which I thought, was the really 612 00:48:41.380 --> 00:48:52.890 robin murez: sad response. I mean, I would think we could also have one made for there that doesn't have that corner extending, or you know, maybe just something to protect it. But 613 00:48:53.580 --> 00:48:56.310 robin murez: I know exactly what you're talking about it's ridiculous 614 00:48:56.660 --> 00:48:58.899 robin murez: that it's it's they're looking ugly. 615 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:03.820 robin murez: and and Mona certainly has 616 00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:07.010 robin murez: plenty of assets, one would think, to be able to 617 00:49:07.210 --> 00:49:09.000 pay for that to be 618 00:49:09.410 --> 00:49:21.129 robin murez: maintain nicely. But you know, whatever you know again it like. If we could get some momentum going on that, then maybe he would join in. But yeah, he wasn't wanting to 619 00:49:21.500 --> 00:49:28.089 robin murez: suggest that he would fix that corner one or or you know. 620 00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:30.640 robin murez: not even move it. 621 00:49:31.030 --> 00:49:33.049 robin murez: But you know, so it doesn't look 622 00:49:35.060 --> 00:49:37.470 robin murez: because the 623 00:49:37.600 --> 00:49:38.439 fine 624 00:49:39.120 --> 00:49:42.519 robin murez: some, you know, some truck or something. 625 00:49:42.690 --> 00:49:43.450 robin murez: Yeah. 626 00:49:43.510 --> 00:49:47.049 robin murez: I'm with you. And yeah, and so maybe we can 627 00:49:47.790 --> 00:49:54.689 robin murez: get back to doing that project at some point, perhaps, when there's a new Vmc. Board, because. 628 00:49:56.450 --> 00:50:00.449 robin murez: you know, this board is just so negative to 629 00:50:00.940 --> 00:50:04.440 robin murez: to me or to our project. 630 00:50:04.520 --> 00:50:08.779 robin murez: You know they they did pass our lifeguard motion, but that was 631 00:50:08.850 --> 00:50:10.149 robin murez: with. 632 00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:14.959 robin murez: you know, a a couple of the Board members being prepared to 633 00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:25.630 robin murez: not they. They did not call me or any of us with questions. They listen to Ismail lies, and they were going to 634 00:50:25.860 --> 00:50:29.550 robin murez: bring them up in. You know the public meeting instead of first. 635 00:50:29.570 --> 00:50:32.120 robin murez: you know, verifying and checking. 636 00:50:32.510 --> 00:50:35.300 robin murez: and that's what's infuriating to me is. 637 00:50:35.510 --> 00:50:38.939 robin murez: hey? We're like in this Together they should be 638 00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:43.300 robin murez: checking with the community before they just try to shoot us down. 639 00:50:43.520 --> 00:50:45.620 robin murez: So yeah, exactly. Yeah. 640 00:50:45.730 --> 00:50:49.959 robin murez: So yeah, the the current Vp. 641 00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:53.280 robin murez: Has been doing that on projects that 642 00:50:53.660 --> 00:50:55.350 that we've brought up, and 643 00:50:55.630 --> 00:50:59.530 robin murez: she's running for President, and I hope you all 644 00:51:00.220 --> 00:51:01.490 robin murez: you know no 645 00:51:01.610 --> 00:51:12.590 robin murez: how she has been handling things, because we certainly don't want that to continue, and we have a voice in the vote of who will be the next President, and we want a President who's going to 646 00:51:13.170 --> 00:51:15.479 robin murez: support cool stuff for Bennett 647 00:51:15.680 --> 00:51:16.950 and 648 00:51:17.260 --> 00:51:20.619 robin murez: listen to the community, and. 649 00:51:20.670 --> 00:51:23.699 robin murez: you know, not look for ways to try to shoot it down. 650 00:51:23.970 --> 00:51:24.950 robin murez: Exactly. 651 00:51:25.240 --> 00:51:35.590 robin murez: So okay, Moving on in our agenda, we also have the the way finding app is how it's listed on the agenda, and that is the 652 00:51:35.950 --> 00:51:37.509 robin murez: the walk into our app. 653 00:51:37.650 --> 00:51:43.199 robin murez: and that's okay. We it passed the Budget committee, and again she 654 00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:47.429 robin murez: came to that Budget Committee again the other night, and brought up these ridiculous 655 00:51:47.900 --> 00:51:50.339 robin murez: obstacles that had 656 00:51:50.390 --> 00:51:52.039 robin murez: that I do not think of 657 00:51:52.120 --> 00:52:05.330 robin murez: are accurate or relevant, and instead of bringing them to us in advance, so we could see how we might need to amend our proposal if needed. They just try to to. 658 00:52:05.430 --> 00:52:10.110 robin murez: you know, in the committee meeting. So it's infuriating. 659 00:52:10.720 --> 00:52:16.800 robin murez: So anyway, hope it did get passed by their committee despite this. But 660 00:52:18.600 --> 00:52:21.030 robin murez: I'm still having to try to 661 00:52:21.350 --> 00:52:31.730 robin murez: track this through the the current treasurer, who again he just drives to sabotage our project. I had asked him if he had any questions regarding it, and he 662 00:52:32.070 --> 00:52:44.199 robin murez: said, no, he didn't respond, and he said he sent it to the city that handled the funding regulation to have them review it. But he was like coming up with stuff initially, that 663 00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:52.079 robin murez: that Jim, you know my brother, who the President said, that has no merit. He's saying things like oh, well. 664 00:52:53.410 --> 00:52:56.409 robin murez: a request for Community Improvement Fund 665 00:52:56.430 --> 00:53:06.789 robin murez: Project cannot come from an AD Hoc committee, which is what our committee is, and Jim said, there's nothing in the bylaw that says that there's something. So he makes these things up. 666 00:53:06.860 --> 00:53:15.590 robin murez: And again, I don't understand it. I mean the walking to our app would only be beneficial. It was not my idea. I think it was 667 00:53:15.810 --> 00:53:19.230 robin murez: who best thing was it yours or Dominique, or 668 00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:22.649 robin murez: you know, but everybody has. 669 00:53:22.730 --> 00:53:25.100 robin murez: But it's a great idea to create. 670 00:53:25.290 --> 00:53:27.490 robin murez: and you know we since. 671 00:53:27.530 --> 00:53:32.800 robin murez: But Dominique and I went downtown and tried it out with some of their other tours, and 672 00:53:33.110 --> 00:53:33.890 robin murez: I 673 00:53:33.950 --> 00:53:35.979 robin murez: since posted. 674 00:53:36.180 --> 00:53:37.319 robin murez: you know, little 675 00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:39.059 robin murez: Yeah. Sample 676 00:53:39.180 --> 00:53:42.799 robin murez: tour, and it's really easy to use it's great. 677 00:53:42.900 --> 00:53:44.750 robin murez: and 678 00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:55.610 robin murez: i'll send that out to all of you, so you can see it also, but it so. I had updated the proposal, and again, it's just infuriating that 679 00:53:55.670 --> 00:53:58.720 robin murez: they seem to try to sabotage rather than support. 680 00:53:58.870 --> 00:54:02.310 robin murez: and on other projects they they support. So 681 00:54:03.560 --> 00:54:11.899 robin murez: and again I thought it was a great project for Venice. We have it, and then down to Central Avenue. 682 00:54:12.250 --> 00:54:16.739 robin murez: the other organization I can. I can't remember the name of it 683 00:54:17.730 --> 00:54:22.920 robin murez: made one, and they have the fact there and then they have the 684 00:54:24.060 --> 00:54:25.009 online. 685 00:54:25.450 --> 00:54:31.200 robin murez: and people can take a walk and go to, you know, walk from flat to black and read the history 686 00:54:31.390 --> 00:54:38.839 robin murez: perfect. Yeah, and the way we proposed it, it would be like our committee would use it for historic site, and then 687 00:54:39.040 --> 00:54:50.770 robin murez: other committees have said to me that they want to use it. There's you know, the Arbor Committee of the Neighborhood Council. They do everything about trees. They want to put trees on it with information about trees. There are people who would love to do that. 688 00:54:50.870 --> 00:55:04.300 robin murez: There's another committee that wants to have there. Be easy, easily found information about where playgrounds for kids and parks are around Venice. And so this is a perfect platform for that. 689 00:55:05.350 --> 00:55:20.289 robin murez: The ocean front part, the Ocean Front Walk committee, you know, wants to have there Be an easy way to find your way to Muscle Beach, or you know, and then to have information that one can learn it's. You know it'll serve everybody's interest. 690 00:55:20.630 --> 00:55:23.269 robin murez: But again, what happened? There was 691 00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:27.470 robin murez: the current vice President of the Neighborhood Council. 692 00:55:27.500 --> 00:55:35.000 robin murez: She refused to collaborate with us because we asked if they wanted to collaborate, because, she said, after we had our first meeting that. 693 00:55:35.110 --> 00:55:39.970 robin murez: and we said this was one of our ideas, She said, oh, well, our committee wants to do that, too. 694 00:55:40.050 --> 00:55:45.100 robin murez: So we approach them and said, hey, if you want to collaborate what you you know, how are you going about it? 695 00:55:45.130 --> 00:55:46.660 robin murez: I went to their zoom. 696 00:55:46.780 --> 00:55:50.180 robin murez: she said. No, we do not want to collaborate. 697 00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:52.799 robin murez: She submitted a proposal that was 698 00:55:53.250 --> 00:55:56.490 robin murez: completely without any like 699 00:55:56.570 --> 00:56:10.070 robin murez: information. No, you know I had the name of somebody on there without any qualifications, without any description it would be. And then, when our came up for review, they did not review our. They only reviewed her. 700 00:56:10.540 --> 00:56:19.089 robin murez: she and a anyway, and so then, also, the other night, when ours came up, a new she's also again coming up with completely ridiculous 701 00:56:19.140 --> 00:56:20.470 robin murez: obstacles. 702 00:56:20.620 --> 00:56:25.509 robin murez: and the treasurer doing the same, and it's infuriating, you know, like 703 00:56:25.540 --> 00:56:33.080 robin murez: we've done it right, and it's something that it's not going to benefit us Personally, it's just a good thing for Venice. So 704 00:56:33.540 --> 00:56:38.599 robin murez: I don't get it. I don't. I don't understand why these people are that way, and 705 00:56:38.730 --> 00:56:44.359 robin murez: being that way I don't understand why they want to be re-elected. 706 00:56:44.740 --> 00:56:48.540 robin murez: because it it makes them sense. 707 00:56:48.650 --> 00:56:51.979 robin murez: But so, so so far, it passed the Budget Committee. 708 00:56:52.090 --> 00:57:05.780 robin murez: It will probably be great to have you all speak when it comes before the board, and that should happen the next Bmc. Board meeting is the I think it's the third Tuesday of each month. 709 00:57:06.070 --> 00:57:08.509 robin murez: and i'll send you information on it. 710 00:57:08.570 --> 00:57:11.670 robin murez: So just like, have you speak under 711 00:57:11.750 --> 00:57:14.159 robin murez: public comment, or when this comes up 712 00:57:14.180 --> 00:57:16.929 robin murez: to say that you think it's a great thing. 713 00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:22.950 robin murez: you know, and i'll make sure you you receive. You know the information note about how 714 00:57:23.010 --> 00:57:25.909 robin murez: it works. I mean, I think we've looked at it before. And 715 00:57:26.120 --> 00:57:28.060 robin murez: but yeah. 716 00:57:28.430 --> 00:57:31.060 robin murez: So you know one of the problems is that it's 717 00:57:31.630 --> 00:57:34.039 robin murez: that if things just come from me. 718 00:57:34.060 --> 00:57:34.890 robin murez: you know 719 00:57:35.300 --> 00:57:42.070 robin murez: it's it's not as good as if they were coming from more other people, from the community. 720 00:57:42.230 --> 00:57:44.539 from our committee, whatever. 721 00:57:44.600 --> 00:57:48.499 robin murez: So, Tim. 722 00:57:49.150 --> 00:57:54.309 robin murez: Okay, see, this is all that it takes to be on our committee. It's just 723 00:57:54.730 --> 00:57:57.659 robin murez: yeah, just you know, being another voice to 724 00:57:59.630 --> 00:58:00.790 robin murez: Okay, cool. 725 00:58:02.530 --> 00:58:08.589 robin murez: And then okay, next with the site markers. So they shot that one down, saying that 726 00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:11.569 robin murez: we can't put markers on 727 00:58:11.700 --> 00:58:30.600 robin murez: private place without having high lucky without having authorization or or that you know, Neighborhood Council funds cannot be used to put anything on private places, and we have to identify where we would put markers. So whatever we could come up with a list 728 00:58:30.610 --> 00:58:33.209 robin murez: we are talking about, that 729 00:58:33.680 --> 00:58:37.179 robin murez: on the list of the public places where we could put site markers. 730 00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:40.049 robin murez: So we'll do that, but also to just 731 00:58:40.540 --> 00:58:41.540 robin murez: do this. 732 00:58:42.100 --> 00:58:47.100 robin murez: sony. You said they had nice black on the walking tour that you know of. 733 00:58:47.190 --> 00:58:57.340 robin murez: We can also start it just with having QR. Codes, which we print out, you know, for next to nothing, little stickers and stick them around in 734 00:58:57.420 --> 00:59:04.830 robin murez: places in Venice, and that could also initially be a way to bring attention. But yeah, it it would be 735 00:59:05.310 --> 00:59:09.680 robin murez: to have there be some nice site Markers that offered. 736 00:59:10.220 --> 00:59:10.970 robin murez: you know. 737 00:59:11.240 --> 00:59:16.219 robin murez: Give the stories of the site as we've talked about, so 738 00:59:18.030 --> 00:59:24.630 robin murez: maybe we can start with the ones that are definitely on public property, and 739 00:59:24.980 --> 00:59:29.230 robin murez: that if you can maybe help me identify that that would be great who never can. 740 00:59:33.150 --> 00:59:37.899 robin murez: Okay, then, the next item on our old business was the 741 00:59:37.940 --> 00:59:40.020 robin murez: Westminster Club has released. 742 00:59:40.270 --> 00:59:41.959 robin murez: and or the 743 00:59:42.100 --> 00:59:44.819 robin murez: having it become the historic resource center. 744 00:59:45.120 --> 00:59:48.759 robin murez: I think I don't know if you all know the update on that as well. 745 00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:53.210 robin murez: Still, with the Historical Society that she did not want us to. 746 00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:55.459 robin murez: You have any kind of 747 00:59:56.150 --> 00:59:59.930 robin murez: the court or motion for that. So we didn't. 748 01:00:00.140 --> 01:00:02.829 robin murez: And I did just 749 01:00:03.390 --> 01:00:07.050 robin murez: see that it has been announced. It was actually in 750 01:00:07.160 --> 01:00:20.339 robin murez: the website current that the club has is now going to revert to being a a senior center. So it appears that the Historical Society has not done anything to 751 01:00:20.460 --> 01:00:23.550 robin murez: put a request in, to be able to use that they 752 01:00:23.670 --> 01:00:26.209 robin murez: a real thing 753 01:00:26.250 --> 01:00:27.160 robin murez: for 754 01:00:28.250 --> 01:00:35.610 robin murez: that. His history has done it. I mean, there just should be a site. But you know, maybe there are things there'll be worked on behind the scenes which 755 01:00:36.120 --> 01:00:39.930 robin murez: we'll make it that. But it it does seem like 756 01:00:40.040 --> 01:00:42.599 Well, Tony, you're on that 757 01:00:43.070 --> 01:00:45.050 robin murez: Historical Society board. 758 01:00:46.020 --> 01:00:48.640 robin murez: I didn't care anything about it 759 01:00:48.810 --> 01:00:50.009 robin murez: about meeting. 760 01:00:51.060 --> 01:00:52.890 robin murez: It works in the address. 761 01:00:53.520 --> 01:00:57.910 robin murez: Yeah, so you might not to address it. Because again, you guys 762 01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:00.730 robin murez: have needed a site for years, You. 763 01:01:00.870 --> 01:01:02.770 robin murez: you know, wanted that site. 764 01:01:02.900 --> 01:01:03.939 robin murez: and 765 01:01:04.520 --> 01:01:05.660 robin murez: now it's. 766 01:01:05.700 --> 01:01:11.120 robin murez: you know the time I mean whatever last month, or like or 2 ago, would have been the time. 767 01:01:11.300 --> 01:01:16.850 robin murez: So that's break it up. But certainly at least now it still could happen, I think, if 768 01:01:17.130 --> 01:01:21.319 robin murez: you know, perhaps; but if it's not even requested it won't. Happen 769 01:01:23.380 --> 01:01:26.170 robin murez: I can 770 01:01:26.290 --> 01:01:27.679 robin murez: when i'm in the 771 01:01:29.380 --> 01:01:30.960 robin murez: by the 772 01:01:31.070 --> 01:01:33.330 robin murez: I can. 773 01:01:33.970 --> 01:01:35.729 robin murez: But you're not on the board. Still. 774 01:01:36.240 --> 01:01:37.569 robin murez: i'm I 775 01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:39.769 robin murez: on the board, but i'm not 776 01:01:40.510 --> 01:01:41.109 right 777 01:01:41.150 --> 01:01:41.830 robin murez: any more. 778 01:01:42.690 --> 01:01:48.630 robin murez: But that's because you you join this committee. So that was. 779 01:01:48.890 --> 01:01:53.849 robin murez: and and because the Board members really like for us that 780 01:01:54.300 --> 01:01:57.419 robin murez: the letter I'm. Posting the monster. 781 01:01:58.140 --> 01:01:59.470 robin murez: And 782 01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:05.099 robin murez: you know, maybe that was giving me too much power or something. I don't know. 783 01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:07.819 robin murez: Okay? Well. 784 01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:14.260 robin murez: I don't know what one thing has to do with the other. But the I'm making a a risk with the other working. 785 01:02:14.340 --> 01:02:15.180 Okay. 786 01:02:15.610 --> 01:02:21.839 robin murez: Yeah. So I don't think we're making it. I think we need to stand together, you know, with it. 787 01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:23.559 robin murez: If if we don't know 788 01:02:23.900 --> 01:02:32.069 robin murez: who care about Venice history support one another, support savings on its history is just not going to be these days. So 789 01:02:32.140 --> 01:02:34.189 robin murez: right? And so I said. 790 01:02:34.710 --> 01:02:40.599 robin murez: Try to save what I can, but I can. I could try and bring it up again. 791 01:02:41.940 --> 01:02:47.389 robin murez: Yeah, I mean, I think it would be in the interest of 792 01:02:47.550 --> 01:02:53.599 robin murez: the Historical Society, and certainly in the interest of Venice, to have there be a historic resource center. 793 01:02:54.030 --> 01:02:57.369 robin murez: At the time I saw it was a matter of timing. 794 01:02:57.670 --> 01:02:59.140 robin murez: you know. 795 01:03:00.290 --> 01:03:05.519 robin murez: because I still was working on some other things to, and 796 01:03:06.020 --> 01:03:09.210 robin murez: It's like a better here. But now I can 797 01:03:09.650 --> 01:03:11.409 robin murez: try bringing it up again. 798 01:03:12.100 --> 01:03:15.189 robin murez: Yeah, I I would certainly do so, and you know 799 01:03:16.150 --> 01:03:18.279 robin murez: I had also suggested that 800 01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:20.619 robin murez: it's not there like the 801 01:03:21.020 --> 01:03:21.950 robin murez: the 802 01:03:22.390 --> 01:03:23.580 robin murez: original 803 01:03:23.630 --> 01:03:29.859 robin murez: jail. And you know, police station is a, you know, a fabulous, publicly owned building. And 804 01:03:29.980 --> 01:03:34.749 robin murez: actually, somebody yesterday said to me that 805 01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:36.000 robin murez: and 806 01:03:36.020 --> 01:03:45.919 robin murez: that he thought it would be great for a museum. And i'm like, yeah, that's good, you know. We wanted to see if it could be opened up, please more 807 01:03:47.650 --> 01:03:49.009 robin murez: for that one 808 01:03:49.610 --> 01:03:50.949 robin murez: to it. But 809 01:03:51.070 --> 01:03:53.309 robin murez: we were only offered 810 01:03:53.720 --> 01:03:55.650 robin murez: the basement, and 811 01:04:02.140 --> 01:04:03.419 robin murez: from being made 812 01:04:04.150 --> 01:04:06.520 robin murez: my name is called it 813 01:04:07.690 --> 01:04:08.419 robin murez: correct 814 01:04:08.540 --> 01:04:12.029 robin murez: whole thing me day. Yeah, what's this term? 815 01:04:13.710 --> 01:04:18.299 robin murez: No repairs or yeah, or renovation 816 01:04:18.710 --> 01:04:19.339 robin murez: shared by 817 01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:21.569 robin murez: the whole room couldn't be 818 01:04:22.600 --> 01:04:25.560 robin murez: the change of weather. 819 01:04:26.090 --> 01:04:27.229 robin murez: you know. It was 820 01:04:27.250 --> 01:04:30.969 robin murez: to deteriorating the historical 821 01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:36.850 robin murez: item because of the change in temperature. 822 01:04:38.340 --> 01:04:41.930 robin murez: I don't know what you call it. But when you 823 01:04:43.060 --> 01:04:46.669 robin murez: yeah well, I mean the climate control 824 01:04:47.380 --> 01:04:52.550 robin murez: in the language. You need it quite much control 825 01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:54.069 definitely 826 01:04:54.230 --> 01:04:57.820 robin murez: control of the environment. 827 01:04:58.410 --> 01:04:59.240 robin murez: Thanks. 828 01:04:59.260 --> 01:05:04.620 robin murez: Right? Well and again, I mean, we've talked about this before, but 829 01:05:05.040 --> 01:05:06.350 robin murez: I think that 830 01:05:07.320 --> 01:05:23.470 robin murez: ask for another portion of that building if he chose not just to accept what had been suggested, and if it's a climate control issue, I don't see how the clubhouse is any better. It's just like a little wooden building versus 831 01:05:23.540 --> 01:05:25.229 robin murez: the account. 832 01:05:25.350 --> 01:05:30.279 robin murez: I understand. Yeah. So whatever we don't need to go into it further. Now 833 01:05:31.010 --> 01:05:31.709 robin murez: that lady 834 01:05:32.310 --> 01:05:35.959 robin murez: it's very controlling. 835 01:05:36.220 --> 01:05:37.069 robin murez: Yeah. 836 01:05:37.100 --> 01:05:43.729 robin murez: they pay a dollar idea from the city, and I understand she was charging. 837 01:05:44.710 --> 01:05:47.019 and so she didn't want to give us 838 01:05:48.120 --> 01:05:48.979 grandpa 839 01:05:49.170 --> 01:05:50.580 robin murez: money, I guess 840 01:05:50.670 --> 01:05:56.209 robin murez: right. But again she has a lease with the city. It's very similar to the lifeguard talent. 841 01:05:56.230 --> 01:06:00.590 betsygoldman: We can, we continue, please? 842 01:06:00.750 --> 01:06:02.510 robin murez: Sure. Yeah. Yeah. 843 01:06:03.260 --> 01:06:12.140 robin murez: Okay. So then, also on old business. Well, the Venice Lifeguard Headquarters Tower is mentioned. And so. 844 01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:20.529 robin murez: Tony, before you came on, I mentioned that Well, so Recon Park put a hold on the demolition, asking us to 845 01:06:20.690 --> 01:06:23.280 robin murez: bring proposals, for 846 01:06:24.710 --> 01:06:25.580 robin murez: you know. 847 01:06:25.600 --> 01:06:34.830 robin murez: repurposing it in August. So we need to work on that. Then Tracy Park also said that no matter what it's not being demolished. 848 01:06:35.170 --> 01:06:51.909 robin murez: I don't have details on how she has stated that, and then I learned just now that is Male Lopez, who has been the project manager, who has been the key person presenting the false information has been 849 01:06:52.710 --> 01:06:54.380 robin murez: transferred. 850 01:06:55.010 --> 01:07:00.070 robin murez: So it does appear in every way that we have safe and life guard towers. 851 01:07:00.110 --> 01:07:01.209 robin murez: Oh, that's not 852 01:07:01.470 --> 01:07:02.319 robin murez: yeah. 853 01:07:02.470 --> 01:07:15.380 robin murez: Yeah. Tonight. In the there is a land use planning committee meeting of the Neighborhood Council and I went to their last meeting and brought to their attention that that Coastal Commission 854 01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:19.730 robin murez: de minimis waiver to you know the basically the permit that 855 01:07:20.340 --> 01:07:39.599 robin murez: would allow demolition that was passed was issued back in July. You know, I requested that it be invalidated because it's based on false information in that it says that it's a county owned building, and that it is, you know, on its last legs 856 01:07:40.080 --> 01:07:50.020 robin murez: sent the Coastal Commission. The documents that show that those 2 things are all that it's a city owned building, and that it has no structural deficiencies. 857 01:07:50.110 --> 01:07:54.790 robin murez: But they refuse my personal request that it be 858 01:07:55.370 --> 01:07:56.779 robin murez: invalidated. 859 01:07:56.810 --> 01:07:57.680 robin murez: So 860 01:07:58.190 --> 01:07:58.819 okay. 861 01:07:58.970 --> 01:08:16.899 robin murez: though we passed our our motion before the Neighborhood Council, we didn't specify that in the motion, because that motion we wrote back in November before. I even knew all of this, anyway. So I brought it to Lupeck, just thinking, even though we believe we've stopped the demolition. It just seems ridiculous for that 862 01:08:16.939 --> 01:08:18.849 robin murez: completely erroneous 863 01:08:21.100 --> 01:08:37.189 robin murez: permit to still be on the book, because actually what the person over the staff person who signed off on this at the Coastal Commission said to me, is no, it's it's issued, and they can tear it down at any point, because, you know, coastal Commission has like 864 01:08:37.470 --> 01:08:39.829 robin murez: there. They have ultimate 865 01:08:39.990 --> 01:08:41.139 approval of 866 01:08:41.319 --> 01:08:42.229 robin murez: project. 867 01:08:42.330 --> 01:08:44.809 robin murez: So anyway, the 868 01:08:45.830 --> 01:08:54.520 robin murez: tonight at 7 Pm. I think it's 7 Pm. I think it's 7 Pm. The land use and planning committee of the Neighborhood Council is going to consider 869 01:08:55.529 --> 01:09:02.650 robin murez: it. They I I told them all the information, and and they said, yeah, we'll put through that motion, and so 870 01:09:02.930 --> 01:09:07.550 that would be to formally have the maybe the Council as 871 01:09:07.740 --> 01:09:10.289 robin murez: the Coastal Commission to invalidate 872 01:09:10.370 --> 01:09:13.670 robin murez: their erroneous waiver. 873 01:09:13.740 --> 01:09:17.519 robin murez: And so, together with that, coming up to 9. 874 01:09:17.620 --> 01:09:20.389 I saw on their agenda 875 01:09:20.500 --> 01:09:27.580 robin murez: that they have Jessica. Who is that spelled Kate a. Au. 876 01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:33.010 robin murez: He is Tracy's head of planning, and he is, you know one of the people I've 877 01:09:33.160 --> 01:09:37.400 robin murez: dealt with in Tracy's office, and he is an invited guest to their meeting. 878 01:09:37.450 --> 01:09:39.540 robin murez: So if anybody wants to 879 01:09:40.700 --> 01:09:44.219 robin murez: either chime in regarding the motion or 880 01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:50.719 robin murez: meet Jessica. That will be on the zoom that is tonight at, I believe, at 7 Pm. 881 01:09:50.990 --> 01:09:56.890 robin murez: And that information is on the Neighborhood Council website, or I can send it to you 882 01:09:56.980 --> 01:09:58.589 robin murez: if you want. 883 01:10:00.370 --> 01:10:12.550 robin murez: and then let's see. So we're gonna need to put together business plan and get fine sources of funding. And and so we're working on those things, as we already kind of informally talk about. 884 01:10:12.670 --> 01:10:14.940 robin murez: and the walking to our app 885 01:10:14.990 --> 01:10:17.969 robin murez: will be. I already discussed that. 886 01:10:18.490 --> 01:10:24.000 robin murez: And I think that that's everything on our old business. 887 01:10:25.070 --> 01:10:28.099 robin murez: Is there anything that anybody else 888 01:10:28.860 --> 01:10:33.920 robin murez: wants to bring up? Because Basically, our new business, I would say, is also 889 01:10:34.160 --> 01:10:36.570 robin murez: then continuing to work on 890 01:10:36.970 --> 01:10:42.079 robin murez: those matters that we discussed under the old business that are continuing like the historic parklet 891 01:10:42.610 --> 01:10:44.700 robin murez: and the 892 01:10:45.100 --> 01:10:46.830 robin murez: walking to our app. 893 01:10:48.930 --> 01:10:51.409 robin murez: and, you know, continuing with your life guaranteed 894 01:10:52.100 --> 01:11:00.740 robin murez: so anything else that you guys want to focus on regarding new business or any comments regarding all business. Or 895 01:11:00.860 --> 01:11:04.970 betsygoldman: did you say this name is K. H. A. U. 896 01:11:05.500 --> 01:11:08.389 robin murez: It's K. H. A. N. 897 01:11:11.480 --> 01:11:12.600 robin murez: No, it's not. 898 01:11:12.620 --> 01:11:16.530 betsygoldman: Yes, it is. I just looked at the announcement at the email. 899 01:11:17.170 --> 01:11:20.549 robin murez: Oh, I'm quite sure, then that they wrote it wrong 900 01:11:21.590 --> 01:11:23.410 robin murez: because it's it's cow. 901 01:11:23.590 --> 01:11:25.059 robin murez: It's 902 01:11:27.420 --> 01:11:33.669 robin murez: that you know what you looked at the agenda or no. I looked at the email from the from the Vnc. 903 01:11:33.700 --> 01:11:35.559 betsygoldman: Saying that he was going to 904 01:11:35.690 --> 01:11:37.780 betsygoldman: the and the Zoom Meeting. 905 01:11:38.010 --> 01:11:48.129 robin murez: Yeah, no, that's wrong. I I first met him at Tracy's inauguration event. I walked up to him right after she was 906 01:11:48.260 --> 01:11:55.339 robin murez: sworn in, or what is it so wearing in ceremony. That's when I met him that first day. That's what it says. 907 01:11:55.560 --> 01:12:02.469 robin murez: Yeah. And I've been emailing back and forth with him and have it phone calls, and no, yeah, they They did a typo. 908 01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:05.149 robin murez: But i'm glad that you 909 01:12:05.550 --> 01:12:07.340 robin murez: notice this detail. 910 01:12:08.780 --> 01:12:09.650 robin murez: Okay. 911 01:12:09.810 --> 01:12:12.990 robin murez: So yeah, that's and again it's 912 01:12:13.020 --> 01:12:22.069 robin murez: if you if anybody could join on the zoom. If there's discussion of the Life Card Headquarters motion. If he's there, it's always good to have more voices 913 01:12:22.100 --> 01:12:24.040 robin murez: signing in and saying. 914 01:12:24.220 --> 01:12:29.369 robin murez: you know. Thank you for doing it, Jeff. Please do it. The that first 915 01:12:29.620 --> 01:12:36.340 robin murez: day there, when I met him, and I was briefly running him through what was happening at that point. 916 01:12:36.400 --> 01:12:40.330 robin murez: and I told him that we've discovered that that erroneous 917 01:12:40.620 --> 01:12:43.800 robin murez: Coastal commission waiver had been 918 01:12:43.860 --> 01:12:49.870 robin murez: approved. He immediately said, oh, well, we need to get that invalidated. And I said, yeah. 919 01:12:50.060 --> 01:12:52.629 robin murez: but I don't know that 920 01:12:53.160 --> 01:12:54.590 robin murez: his office has 921 01:12:54.770 --> 01:12:59.019 robin murez: tried to do anything with it. I sent him a copy of our 922 01:12:59.700 --> 01:13:04.520 robin murez: of the motion we've sent over to Loopak, asking that when you planning committee 923 01:13:05.480 --> 01:13:08.079 robin murez: asking that if you put on their agenda, so 924 01:13:08.540 --> 01:13:15.849 robin murez: you know I don't know if they get so many emails they don't read them. They don't get back to me. But you know I try to keep him in the loop, and 925 01:13:16.830 --> 01:13:18.209 robin murez: I believe that 926 01:13:18.670 --> 01:13:21.070 robin murez: Tracy spoke directly to 927 01:13:21.500 --> 01:13:24.059 Lindsey Horvath, Who's the new 928 01:13:24.330 --> 01:13:25.280 robin murez: County 929 01:13:25.500 --> 01:13:26.760 robin murez: Supervisor 930 01:13:27.040 --> 01:13:28.440 for that? 931 01:13:29.200 --> 01:13:31.560 robin murez: And I think that's probably 932 01:13:31.780 --> 01:13:33.619 robin murez: what could the final 933 01:13:34.240 --> 01:13:35.830 robin murez: about on there 934 01:13:36.820 --> 01:13:38.539 robin murez: desire to do the 935 01:13:38.730 --> 01:13:40.389 demolition. 936 01:13:40.740 --> 01:13:43.179 robin murez: She actually texted me one night 937 01:13:43.400 --> 01:13:46.910 robin murez: asking where the document was that 938 01:13:47.200 --> 01:13:48.510 robin murez: showed that 939 01:13:49.690 --> 01:13:52.009 robin murez: the county has the duty to 940 01:13:52.840 --> 01:14:01.099 robin murez: repair. And Of course this was probably 2 months after I had sent it over to she and Robin. 941 01:14:01.140 --> 01:14:02.809 robin murez: Yeah enough. 942 01:14:03.400 --> 01:14:04.529 betsygoldman: The meeting 943 01:14:05.700 --> 01:14:08.190 betsygoldman: The meeting is too long. 944 01:14:08.270 --> 01:14:09.290 robin murez: Okay. 945 01:14:09.700 --> 01:14:10.790 robin murez: Okay. So 946 01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:20.710 robin murez: I also do that. Well, I don't know how much people want to be aware of. You know the things or not, so I just want to be transparent in. 947 01:14:21.370 --> 01:14:25.650 robin murez: and all that. I know that's going on. But yeah, we can 948 01:14:25.940 --> 01:14:32.129 robin murez: go to Item Number 6, which is to adjourn the meeting if nobody has. 949 01:14:32.180 --> 01:14:34.000 betsygoldman: If you want to continue. 950 01:14:35.570 --> 01:14:40.099 betsygoldman: you, you know, please feel free. But i'm gonna leave the meeting. 951 01:14:40.470 --> 01:14:47.320 robin murez: No, no, I I was just trying to give more detail on stuff that I know that's gone on. But there's 952 01:14:47.870 --> 01:14:51.250 robin murez: again I think we're at the point of discussing. If there. 953 01:14:51.500 --> 01:14:56.690 robin murez: if anybody has any other suggestions for new business. 954 01:14:56.850 --> 01:15:06.369 timrudnick: I got a question. I got a question. Have you heard about the proposal to to renovate or tear down the bathrooms 955 01:15:06.710 --> 01:15:07.960 timrudnick: on the board work. 956 01:15:08.770 --> 01:15:16.069 robin murez: have not? I mean there were bathrooms that were torn down 957 01:15:16.120 --> 01:15:17.610 timrudnick: the mosaics 958 01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:20.019 timrudnick: on the on the 959 01:15:20.060 --> 01:15:21.210 timrudnick: bathrooms. 960 01:15:21.580 --> 01:15:25.880 timrudnick: and he said that there was a proposal to to tear things down, and 961 01:15:26.220 --> 01:15:27.989 timrudnick: I don't know much about it. But 962 01:15:29.110 --> 01:15:31.410 timrudnick: nice. Look into that. 963 01:15:31.490 --> 01:15:35.069 robin murez: I try to find out more about it, Robin, and let you know. 964 01:15:35.320 --> 01:15:38.530 robin murez: Okay, that would be great. Yeah, I mean. 965 01:15:39.310 --> 01:15:50.170 robin murez: we have something done to them. But the mosaics are beautiful that he did. Yeah, yeah. And Billy, was he, he what he and his 966 01:15:50.260 --> 01:15:53.299 robin murez: his then wife, who who did so much it? 967 01:15:54.120 --> 01:15:54.990 robin murez: Yeah. 968 01:15:55.340 --> 01:15:59.649 robin murez: Yeah. So. And that should be also protected by you know 969 01:16:00.190 --> 01:16:11.390 robin murez: the department of Cultural Affairs for public art. But and it would again be the county beaches and harbor. That would be proposing such a thing. So 970 01:16:11.640 --> 01:16:26.210 robin murez: yeah, wow! Had not heard of thing, and i'd love for somebody else to be able to follow up. I'll see what I can find out and let you know I i'll talk to Bill at some time, anyway. 971 01:16:26.470 --> 01:16:28.610 robin murez: Okay, yeah. There there is. 972 01:16:29.790 --> 01:16:33.550 robin murez: theoretically an Arts Committee of the Neighborhood Council. 973 01:16:33.620 --> 01:16:34.480 robin murez: but 974 01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:40.040 robin murez: the person who had set up Bruno. He Hasn't, had a single meeting, so 975 01:16:40.270 --> 01:16:49.119 robin murez: you know, but one would think that they could also take it up. But maybe if we bring that specifically. If you find out more. 976 01:16:49.140 --> 01:16:54.290 robin murez: Yeah, please tell me you you're also in touch with Danya on the 977 01:16:54.530 --> 01:16:56.969 robin murez: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 978 01:16:57.120 --> 01:16:58.839 robin murez: she should know something. 979 01:17:00.310 --> 01:17:06.150 robin murez: I 980 01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:09.810 robin murez: Yeah, there's a Sonya. 981 01:17:10.350 --> 01:17:11.420 robin murez: Hey? Menace? 982 01:17:11.860 --> 01:17:13.690 timrudnick: Yeah. 983 01:17:14.120 --> 01:17:25.490 robin murez: She she worked for Reckon Park. She's very good. She's out there at the you know. Ocean Front walk. Oh, another committee that could handle it to take it up is the Ocean Front Walk committee. 984 01:17:25.690 --> 01:17:39.539 robin murez: and Jim Rob has set up. And so, yeah, if you could find out anything more. I'll just send it also to those other committees. But yeah, so, Sonya young himena, she should know something more. 985 01:17:39.760 --> 01:17:41.340 robin murez: And 986 01:17:41.750 --> 01:17:47.489 robin murez: and then, yeah, we'll try to put the word out, so that hopefully our committee doesn't have to take that one up to. 987 01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:52.000 robin murez: But that's all built today. And 988 01:17:52.170 --> 01:17:56.600 timrudnick: yeah, i'll find out and let you know what he knows and maybe connect the 2 of you. 989 01:17:56.950 --> 01:18:01.839 robin murez: Sure. Yeah, we we've met through the years and 990 01:18:03.170 --> 01:18:09.250 robin murez: and yeah, and I i'm with you that that should not be destroyed. 991 01:18:10.440 --> 01:18:18.870 timrudnick: And it is a public, You know, that that's falling apart, and he's been desperately trying to get the city to 992 01:18:18.920 --> 01:18:22.740 timrudnick: put in the money to renovate the thing before it falls on it becomes a 993 01:18:23.070 --> 01:18:30.270 timrudnick: a a safety issue because it's it's just apparently being really badly affected by the weather. 994 01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:38.129 timrudnick: His ceramic, the the of the children's place. Yeah, children. 995 01:18:38.480 --> 01:18:44.500 robin murez: Oh, interesting. I'll go Look at it for stuff. I didn't realize it was. 996 01:18:44.820 --> 01:18:45.630 robin murez: Oh. 997 01:18:45.870 --> 01:18:46.700 robin murez: huh! 998 01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:50.390 robin murez: It's crazy! The piece of falling off of it 999 01:18:51.240 --> 01:18:55.640 robin murez: It it should be that the Department of Cultural Affairs would 1000 01:18:56.970 --> 01:19:04.060 robin murez: would preserve it, and there are like actual Federal laws about having to protect public art. 1001 01:19:05.350 --> 01:19:06.349 robin murez: So 1002 01:19:07.140 --> 01:19:08.500 robin murez: yeah, you might. 1003 01:19:08.770 --> 01:19:15.319 robin murez: you know, suggest them that he get in touch with the Department of Cultural affairs, and that's who commissioned him, I think initially. 1004 01:19:15.420 --> 01:19:18.310 robin murez: I think it was done through them. 1005 01:19:20.540 --> 01:19:22.340 robin murez: and hopefully they 1006 01:19:22.540 --> 01:19:23.670 robin murez: they would 1007 01:19:24.370 --> 01:19:27.779 robin murez: get on board. But I mean you can also call me, and 1008 01:19:28.410 --> 01:19:30.739 robin murez: I just feel like 1009 01:19:31.860 --> 01:19:34.609 robin murez: it would be great to spread this around and have other. 1010 01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:35.429 timrudnick: Yeah. 1011 01:19:35.620 --> 01:19:39.990 robin murez: i'll. I'll do that today. I'll try to contact you. 1012 01:19:40.460 --> 01:19:53.399 timrudnick: Great, great thanks. That's great to know that. How do you? Where do you did he call you? You ran into him, You know we've been working on a a a proposal to build a it's it's. 1013 01:19:53.580 --> 01:20:01.530 timrudnick: I don't know where it's at, but to build a large mosaic archway over the over the pier entrances appeared 1014 01:20:01.580 --> 01:20:03.380 timrudnick: to make it more attractive. 1015 01:20:03.510 --> 01:20:06.789 timrudnick: Bill has put together a proposal for it, and 1016 01:20:07.170 --> 01:20:09.959 timrudnick: we've been talking about that generally 1017 01:20:10.440 --> 01:20:14.420 timrudnick: for years and years, and we go. We go way back. 1018 01:20:14.850 --> 01:20:24.670 timrudnick: Yeah, I know. I call him Billy 1019 01:20:24.890 --> 01:20:32.100 robin murez: right? Well, that happened more recently. I think so. I still call him Billy. I know. I think he goes by. Add away these days. But 1020 01:20:32.720 --> 01:20:35.540 timrudnick: yeah. 1021 01:20:35.710 --> 01:20:36.870 robin murez: see? Good. 1022 01:20:37.180 --> 01:20:49.340 robin murez: Yeah. So, Tim, I i'm not sure that you can do decline being on our committee because are in touch in the wealth of information. And you've got the right caring so 1023 01:20:49.580 --> 01:20:54.950 robin murez: it's only 1 1 one meeting a month. 1024 01:20:55.320 --> 01:21:01.750 timrudnick: Good! Good. How busy I was! I you know I don't have time for movies. I don't have time for series on 1025 01:21:02.400 --> 01:21:03.709 timrudnick: I do some so 1026 01:21:03.770 --> 01:21:07.350 timrudnick: busy night and day. 1027 01:21:07.520 --> 01:21:12.619 robin murez: Well, it's what keeps us young. 1028 01:21:12.760 --> 01:21:13.959 I would. 1029 01:21:15.180 --> 01:21:17.869 robin murez: I know what you mean. 1030 01:21:18.050 --> 01:21:20.840 robin murez: Okay, Any other 1031 01:21:21.250 --> 01:21:22.370 robin murez: comments. 1032 01:21:22.540 --> 01:21:25.300 robin murez: suggestions, questions, anything, anybody? 1033 01:21:26.780 --> 01:21:28.920 robin murez: Okay? So I will send out 1034 01:21:29.140 --> 01:21:31.470 robin murez: emails to on these 1035 01:21:31.780 --> 01:21:33.830 robin murez: upcoming. Follow up meeting. 1036 01:21:34.230 --> 01:21:39.219 robin murez: and please do chime in wherever you can, and 1037 01:21:39.290 --> 01:21:44.690 robin murez: we'll call it a day. So we will end the meeting. Now it is 1123. 1038 01:21:44.820 --> 01:21:49.780 robin murez: And thank you all for being here. 1039 01:21:50.040 --> 01:21:51.230 timrudnick: Bye. Bye. 1040 01:21:51.500 --> 01:21:52.519 betsygoldman: Hi, Jim. 1041 01:21:52.790 --> 01:21:54.809 robin murez: I look forward to 1042 01:21:55.160 --> 01:21:55.960 robin murez: email for 10. 1043 01:21:55.980 --> 01:22:01.809 robin murez: Okay, Great sonya thanks for paying that i'll send it. Okay, bye, bye. 1044 01:22:02.470 --> 01:22:03.410 robin murez: bye, bye.