WEBVTT 1 00:00:26.310 --> 00:00:28.059 jim murez: Make in progress. 2 00:00:30.110 --> 00:00:33.900 jim murez: Okay? Oh, you made yourself, host. Were you able to start it? 3 00:00:34.060 --> 00:00:43.490 Vicki Halliday: The cause I kept trying the minute you shut down. 4 00:01:03.990 --> 00:01:05.170 frank murphy: Thanks, Jim. 5 00:01:06.520 --> 00:01:10.589 jim murez: Hey, Frank, i'm sorry. You know. The Budget meeting ran longer than J. Expected. 6 00:01:10.670 --> 00:01:16.289 jim murez: He called it for 6. It was supposed to be a half an hour meeting, and you know, sometimes these things get carried away. 7 00:01:16.440 --> 00:01:17.280 frank murphy: Sure. 8 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:20.389 jim murez: No problem. But we got through everything. So 9 00:01:20.540 --> 00:01:22.539 frank murphy: good. Good. Good. Yeah. 10 00:01:23.650 --> 00:01:26.080 frank murphy: Good. Good. Good. Yeah. So 11 00:01:26.240 --> 00:01:29.560 frank murphy: it looks good. And timing's right on 12 00:01:29.710 --> 00:01:30.679 frank murphy: perfect. 13 00:01:31.210 --> 00:01:37.229 jim murez: Yep, you made it all right. I i'm just gonna hang out here quietly in the background. If I want to say something, i'll raise my hand. 14 00:01:37.410 --> 00:01:39.799 frank murphy: Okay, you got it. Take care of Jim. 15 00:01:40.980 --> 00:01:42.749 frank murphy: Hey, Stan, how you doing? 16 00:01:45.460 --> 00:01:47.870 Ansar Muhammad: Pretty good. Pretty good. 17 00:01:53.810 --> 00:01:54.960 frank murphy: So 18 00:02:04.170 --> 00:02:04.920 frank murphy: I think 19 00:02:06.170 --> 00:02:17.170 frank murphy: column will probably be a little later. Brian won't be able to make it this evening, as I understand. Yeah, he sent that letter. That's large background. There, Frank. 20 00:02:17.930 --> 00:02:19.550 you like that. 21 00:02:19.590 --> 00:02:23.160 frank murphy: Yes, we got the log environment here, the 22 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:27.220 frank murphy: stone fireplace, and all that kind of good stuff. 23 00:02:27.510 --> 00:02:29.960 Vicki Halliday: Well, you need a fireplace with it that cold. 24 00:02:30.380 --> 00:02:31.659 frank murphy: Hello, man! 25 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:33.359 frank murphy: Is it ever? 26 00:02:34.190 --> 00:02:49.820 frank murphy: I'm just that my blood is, too. It's either thin or thick. I don't know which it is, but whatever it is, it's not working too good. Well, at 50 below 0. Nobody has. Well, that's on the poor that's on the poor buffalo. 27 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:51.800 frank murphy: I got out of that 28 00:02:52.640 --> 00:02:55.030 frank murphy: I got to ride around in a van. 29 00:02:56.370 --> 00:02:57.430 frank murphy: Hey, Liz. 30 00:03:01.690 --> 00:03:03.450 frank murphy: let's see 31 00:03:04.390 --> 00:03:05.909 frank murphy: You're on mute Liz 32 00:03:09.430 --> 00:03:13.000 frank murphy: Pat signing in. So we're good. Once Pat signs in. 33 00:03:13.310 --> 00:03:15.620 Elizabeth Wright: Okay, you know, there's a green comment. 34 00:03:17.070 --> 00:03:18.690 frank murphy: There's a green comment. 35 00:03:19.980 --> 00:03:22.480 Elizabeth Wright: Yeah, like in the sky. Comment. 36 00:03:22.760 --> 00:03:28.950 frank murphy: Oh, I did not know that there is one, and it's going to be. It's brightest 37 00:03:29.290 --> 00:03:30.870 Elizabeth Wright: today and tomorrow. 38 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:31.810 That's right. 39 00:03:31.930 --> 00:03:34.839 Elizabeth Wright: It's on Youtube. 40 00:03:35.270 --> 00:03:36.250 Elizabeth Wright: It's 2. 41 00:03:36.390 --> 00:03:39.779 Elizabeth Wright: The La City lights make it impossible to see 42 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:45.630 Elizabeth Wright: from within the city. 43 00:03:46.100 --> 00:03:51.309 Vicki Halliday: Right, Google and find it, and it's worth it. Dark sky country. 44 00:03:51.660 --> 00:03:53.020 frank murphy: Yeah, yeah. 45 00:03:55.530 --> 00:03:57.070 frank murphy: I should be good. 46 00:03:58.810 --> 00:04:01.969 frank murphy: Oh, let's see here. 47 00:04:02.130 --> 00:04:06.279 frank murphy: Well, it looks like we're no Jim, we need one more person 48 00:04:07.040 --> 00:04:08.050 frank murphy: here. 49 00:04:09.370 --> 00:04:10.720 frank murphy: and 50 00:04:13.970 --> 00:04:15.790 Vicki Halliday: There's Pat. I'll promote it. 51 00:04:16.070 --> 00:04:17.140 frank murphy: Okay. 52 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:27.770 frank murphy: All right, Pat. 53 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:33.970 PatRaphael: Hi Guys 54 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:40.999 PatRaphael: right inside and get a coffee instead of Starbucks. So I don't feel like a total bum while using their wi-fi. 55 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:45.220 frank murphy: Yeah. Well. 56 00:04:45.490 --> 00:04:48.050 frank murphy: you know, they they can afford that 57 00:04:48.440 --> 00:04:49.890 frank murphy: they can afford it. 58 00:04:50.690 --> 00:04:54.900 PatRaphael: But I always tell people about the magic of becoming a customer. 59 00:04:55.610 --> 00:05:00.600 PatRaphael: and was a customer rather than just. Say, hey, give me a cup of water. 60 00:05:00.930 --> 00:05:02.249 PatRaphael: Give me some eyes. 61 00:05:02.450 --> 00:05:08.259 PatRaphael: It's not their job to give you ice all day. So if you're a customer. 62 00:05:09.080 --> 00:05:12.270 PatRaphael: you got that right kind of part of your job at that point. 63 00:05:12.310 --> 00:05:13.230 So you 64 00:05:13.840 --> 00:05:15.510 frank murphy: you got that right? 65 00:05:16.660 --> 00:05:21.019 frank murphy: All right. Well, let's i'm gonna call you a meeting to order. 66 00:05:23.540 --> 00:05:25.290 frank murphy: We have a quorum. 67 00:05:27.870 --> 00:05:29.199 frank murphy: I'm here. 68 00:05:32.840 --> 00:05:36.060 frank murphy: I'll just run down. Pat, you're here. 69 00:05:36.220 --> 00:05:37.040 PatRaphael: Here's 70 00:05:37.990 --> 00:05:40.200 Jody Mortimer: Vicki. Yes. 71 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:42.530 Jody Mortimer: stay in. 72 00:05:44.400 --> 00:05:45.300 Ansar Muhammad: Yes. 73 00:05:45.810 --> 00:05:46.880 frank murphy: Liz. 74 00:05:52.940 --> 00:05:53.730 Yes. 75 00:05:54.230 --> 00:05:58.859 frank murphy: and I i'm fairly certain. Jody, you'll be in in a little. He's here. 76 00:05:58.940 --> 00:06:00.810 Jody Mortimer: I'm cool. 77 00:06:01.860 --> 00:06:03.230 Jodie. 78 00:06:04.930 --> 00:06:06.620 Jody Mortimer: you there. 79 00:06:06.850 --> 00:06:09.569 Vicki Halliday: You got it. 80 00:06:13.660 --> 00:06:22.169 frank murphy: The minutes are not up at the moment. I will get them up. I apologize, and I will have them up for the next meeting 81 00:06:23.640 --> 00:06:25.080 frank murphy: that will be. 82 00:06:25.870 --> 00:06:29.599 frank murphy: I'm gonna do the chair report. 83 00:06:31.230 --> 00:06:37.999 frank murphy: One thing I wanted to say was, we don't have anybody for the Roundless for the homeless round table tonight. 84 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:42.020 frank murphy: so we will scratch that from the agenda. 85 00:06:42.570 --> 00:06:50.620 frank murphy: and we have one. An item on a motion on which was a rewarding of the motion we had at the last meeting. 86 00:06:51.320 --> 00:06:56.110 frank murphy: So that will be the that will be where we're going to go. 87 00:06:59.290 --> 00:07:05.000 frank murphy: One statement that I want to make is again just. I wanted to state again 88 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:12.930 frank murphy: that homeless being, accommodated on the streets and sidewalks of our community, and the city as a whole, is the most inhumane. 89 00:07:13.090 --> 00:07:21.300 frank murphy: brutal, unsafe, and unsanitary emergency shelter solution for both the unhoused and the house population. 90 00:07:21.640 --> 00:07:27.530 frank murphy: This is not a 0 0 sum game jail versus street, as some would have you believe 91 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:34.060 Jody Mortimer: It's yours or Miss My, I would take it up. 92 00:07:34.170 --> 00:07:37.000 Jody Mortimer: Jed, You got to turn off your speaker 93 00:07:39.090 --> 00:07:43.699 just to get our perspective as to subsidize housing and homelessness. 94 00:07:44.260 --> 00:07:52.160 frank murphy: and their direct impact on Venice per the 2,022 homeless count of all of the homeless and CD 11 95 00:07:52.300 --> 00:08:01.120 frank murphy: 45% reside in Venice as of 2020 housing analysis, with the addition of Thatcher, Rose, and Lincoln. 96 00:08:01.420 --> 00:08:03.340 frank murphy: Of all the low income. 97 00:08:03.470 --> 00:08:06.130 frank murphy: Psh. Housing, and CD. 11, 98 00:08:06.260 --> 00:08:13.380 frank murphy: 40% plus is located in Venice. That being said, Venice accounts for 5% of the area. 99 00:08:13.450 --> 00:08:19.580 frank murphy: 14% of the population and 16% of the housing stock of all of CD. 11. 100 00:08:19.950 --> 00:08:30.869 frank murphy: For all its faults and acrimony, Venice is one of the largest suppliers of sidewalks, based parking spaces and subsidized housing in all of L. A. 101 00:08:31.390 --> 00:08:33.890 frank murphy: I want to stress one of the largest 102 00:08:33.950 --> 00:08:37.219 frank murphy: and by far the largest in CD. 11. 103 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:41.570 frank murphy: So that that's it for 104 00:08:41.980 --> 00:08:43.760 frank murphy: that that 105 00:08:43.970 --> 00:08:46.590 frank murphy: bit, and 106 00:08:47.730 --> 00:08:51.220 frank murphy: we have public comment. 107 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:56.530 frank murphy: We'll have public comment after the motion is heard. 108 00:08:56.820 --> 00:09:04.540 frank murphy: We'll have public comment 1 min, 1 min on non agenda items rate related to Homelessness Committee only 109 00:09:04.910 --> 00:09:09.470 frank murphy: we will have public comment on the motion when it comes up. 110 00:09:10.950 --> 00:09:12.800 frank murphy: So 111 00:09:14.190 --> 00:09:19.100 frank murphy: this motion was presented by so moving on to the motion. 112 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:23.009 frank murphy: and I I to do a vote for the 113 00:09:23.760 --> 00:09:28.829 Vicki Halliday: well. We you didn't post a minute, so there can't be a vote, but 114 00:09:28.880 --> 00:09:35.720 Vicki Halliday: I see a hand up. Normally we have public comment on non agenda items first, and then we do the motion. 115 00:09:36.290 --> 00:09:47.560 frank murphy: Yeah, I just have the this agenda is written up differently. But we can do it now is if I just see one hand up 116 00:09:47.600 --> 00:10:01.809 Vicki Halliday: all right, and then we'll have that. We'll have it after the motion is heard, too. So so public comment on non-agendized items. Now I see 2 hands up. I'll wait for a second to see if others go up. 117 00:10:02.260 --> 00:10:03.220 frank murphy: Okay. 118 00:10:06.350 --> 00:10:12.259 Vicki Halliday: Okay, I just see 2 hands up. So Shawn O'brien, go ahead, please. 119 00:10:13.900 --> 00:10:17.390 Sean Obrien: Hi, thanks, guys. I appreciate everything that you do. 120 00:10:17.700 --> 00:10:21.320 Sean Obrien: My question is for Pat. 121 00:10:21.670 --> 00:10:24.300 Sean Obrien: Oh, there was a huge. 122 00:10:24.490 --> 00:10:26.290 Sean Obrien: a huge job. 123 00:10:26.740 --> 00:10:27.850 Sean Obrien: Oh. 124 00:10:27.990 --> 00:10:31.410 Sean Obrien: and format! If you go cleaning 125 00:10:31.540 --> 00:10:35.060 Sean Obrien: third straight of flower. 126 00:10:35.290 --> 00:10:37.379 Sean Obrien: why did not pat 127 00:10:37.420 --> 00:10:39.350 Sean Obrien: except housing. 128 00:10:39.800 --> 00:10:45.739 Sean Obrien: It's like crazy that he's putting a motion while he's living in an already 129 00:10:45.860 --> 00:11:00.079 Sean Obrien: blocking, you know, causing problems and neighbors. And I understand that's one of the quick guys that would be on the that would be on the motion. But but no, no, no, i'm not talking about the motion. 130 00:11:00.090 --> 00:11:13.870 Sean Obrien: I'm saying that is one of the good guys, and we would like to have Pat living on all of our blocks and Rvs. But my question is, is, why wasn't he? Why didn't he accept housing. 131 00:11:14.450 --> 00:11:20.899 Sean Obrien: and then put this motion through. There were services there was housing opportunities available for him. 132 00:11:21.140 --> 00:11:22.880 Sean Obrien: and yet he. 133 00:11:22.930 --> 00:11:39.470 Sean Obrien: he! He! Declined to participate, and I know I don't want to hear that he did not know they were there, or that he was not included, because he didn't have a tent on the street. Those those those excuses are mute and 134 00:11:39.910 --> 00:11:41.839 frank murphy: thank you, Shawn 135 00:11:42.150 --> 00:11:43.799 Vicki Halliday: Lisa. Go ahead, please. 136 00:11:46.290 --> 00:11:46.920 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Huh! 137 00:11:47.040 --> 00:11:49.600 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I'm just gonna say Pat, You don't have to answer that. 138 00:11:50.850 --> 00:11:56.010 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I I want to bring up tomorrow. That is the first day of black history month. 139 00:11:56.260 --> 00:11:58.860 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: and in Los Angeles County. 140 00:11:58.980 --> 00:12:03.090 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: African-americans only make up 8% of the population. 141 00:12:03.190 --> 00:12:04.550 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: whereas 142 00:12:04.790 --> 00:12:09.870 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: 34%, more than a third of the unhouse population 143 00:12:10.170 --> 00:12:11.100 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: are black. 144 00:12:11.710 --> 00:12:23.319 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And we need to address this issue. We need to connect the lines that are still in this country between slavery and police brutality 145 00:12:23.460 --> 00:12:32.569 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: between Jim Crow laws and voter, suppression, mass, incarceration, redlining slave patrols, income, inequality. 146 00:12:33.220 --> 00:12:44.530 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: the war on drugs and education disparities all of this, and we need to talk about why this is still continuing to happening in a social justice 147 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:45.480 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: aspect. 148 00:12:46.260 --> 00:12:53.320 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: It's wrong that we do have people living on the street in this country, but it's even more wrong and incorrect 149 00:12:53.370 --> 00:13:02.530 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: that it is so disproportionate African, American, and I want to leave that as we go into Black History month tomorrow to think about. Thank you. 150 00:13:02.990 --> 00:13:04.869 frank murphy: Thanks, Lisa. 151 00:13:05.780 --> 00:13:08.619 That's the end of hands. Race 152 00:13:08.900 --> 00:13:09.550 right. 153 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:11.589 frank murphy: all right. 154 00:13:13.640 --> 00:13:17.860 frank murphy: Dan. Can you hold a comment until 155 00:13:18.300 --> 00:13:19.820 frank murphy: our committee. 156 00:13:20.740 --> 00:13:22.560 Ansar Muhammad: Yes. 157 00:13:22.880 --> 00:13:25.239 Ansar Muhammad: yes, you welcome. 158 00:13:25.640 --> 00:13:31.800 frank murphy: and and I, and and and thank you, Lisa. We keep that on the forefront, so we address that 159 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:36.250 frank murphy: all right, the 160 00:13:36.970 --> 00:13:38.680 frank murphy: We have a motion 161 00:13:39.350 --> 00:13:41.999 frank murphy: on the agenda. 162 00:13:42.580 --> 00:13:47.319 frank murphy: This motion was submitted by Pat Raphael, and it has been 163 00:13:48.140 --> 00:13:51.680 frank murphy: adjusted from the last meeting to this meeting. 164 00:13:52.220 --> 00:13:56.800 frank murphy: Pat. Do you want to read it verbatim from this, or do you want me to read it? 165 00:13:58.150 --> 00:14:00.900 PatRaphael: I can. I can do the reading to 166 00:14:01.090 --> 00:14:03.910 PatRaphael: walk us through it 167 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:10.739 PatRaphael: all right. So this is the the motion concerning the Community assistant parking program. 168 00:14:11.190 --> 00:14:22.050 PatRaphael: It's starting with some background, whereas there's a group, a growing population of Venice residents making long term use of vehicle dwelling as their solution for housing. 169 00:14:22.270 --> 00:14:27.100 PatRaphael: and in some instances this population represents a less visible 170 00:14:27.220 --> 00:14:29.680 PatRaphael: sub group of the unhoused in minutes. 171 00:14:29.800 --> 00:14:33.559 PatRaphael: and may even have less contact with the service agencies. 172 00:14:33.770 --> 00:14:42.060 PatRaphael: So, addressing the precarious nature of this type of shelter solution is a a major jeopardy is vehicles being towed 173 00:14:42.090 --> 00:14:45.559 PatRaphael: by the city due to parking tickets or registration issues. 174 00:14:45.980 --> 00:14:49.679 PatRaphael: Now, the Cap program is a program that already exists 175 00:14:50.260 --> 00:14:53.490 PatRaphael: right. This currently available program 176 00:14:53.690 --> 00:15:03.470 PatRaphael: has limited circumstances under which it will allow somebody with tickets to do community service in lieu of fines. 177 00:15:03.520 --> 00:15:12.269 PatRaphael: Right? And this is for neighbors who qualify it's not for everybody you have to qualify their program. And then, because this 178 00:15:12.610 --> 00:15:18.209 PatRaphael: program, which helps only has a limited amount of West Side recipients 179 00:15:18.250 --> 00:15:21.209 PatRaphael: that would be available for community service. 180 00:15:21.250 --> 00:15:23.930 PatRaphael: And that's what this motion is trying to address. 181 00:15:23.980 --> 00:15:28.150 PatRaphael: We're trying to say. Why not 182 00:15:28.340 --> 00:15:33.149 frank murphy: pat? We need to read the directly from it, and then we'll comment after that. 183 00:15:33.670 --> 00:15:48.739 PatRaphael: all right. So because there is currently limited West Side Service providers with whom community service hours can be completed, even though many Service Providers have operations here on the West Side, the motion is to let it be resolved that the Vnc. Request the CD. 11 184 00:15:48.770 --> 00:15:56.810 PatRaphael: Request of CD. 11. That service providers, such as Saint Joseph Spy, a Bridge Home, Opcc. The Circle Team. 185 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:06.880 PatRaphael: etc., to explore the viability of becoming a community service recipient to neighbors who seek to use caps. I didn't see the word recipient there. 186 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:11.390 PatRaphael: So that's the the whole of the motion. 187 00:16:11.820 --> 00:16:12.780 frank murphy: All right. 188 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:15.300 frank murphy: That that's that. 189 00:16:15.450 --> 00:16:16.810 frank murphy: Thank you. 190 00:16:16.860 --> 00:16:17.630 frank murphy: Pat. 191 00:16:17.760 --> 00:16:19.400 frank murphy: So we're 192 00:16:19.420 --> 00:16:23.290 frank murphy: we. We need to make the motion. Does anybody 193 00:16:23.970 --> 00:16:25.779 frank murphy: want to? 194 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:30.040 Vicki Halliday: We need to make him. Second. 195 00:16:31.140 --> 00:16:33.899 Jody Mortimer: Second, i'll second it 196 00:16:33.950 --> 00:16:34.750 frank murphy: all right. 197 00:16:35.400 --> 00:16:39.650 frank murphy: That's so it. Vicki made it, and 198 00:16:40.760 --> 00:16:44.150 Elizabeth Wright: Jody seconded Jody seconded. 199 00:16:45.410 --> 00:16:49.510 frank murphy: And okay. So now we have public comment 200 00:16:49.880 --> 00:16:51.570 frank murphy: on this motion. 201 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:59.070 frank murphy: So we have to go ahead. Vicki. 202 00:17:01.110 --> 00:17:20.610 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Yeah, I'm all for this motion. Really. Good job, Pat it's long long overdue here. Really. Bravo! Let's let's get it done. I would just make a small amendment to your motion. A bridge home is a place it's not a service provider. 203 00:17:20.619 --> 00:17:30.229 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: It's path that is a service provider at the bridge home. So I would change that to path p period a period with Vicky Nose. 204 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:38.550 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Yeah. And then they were the operators also of the Ramada when that reopens, but definitely they are a 205 00:17:39.250 --> 00:17:45.710 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: service provider. They run a lot of other project home keys in CD. 11 as well. So. 206 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:49.319 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: good job. Let's vote for it. Let's get it done. 207 00:17:49.350 --> 00:17:50.900 Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Thank you. 208 00:17:51.250 --> 00:17:54.600 Vicki Halliday: Thanks, Lisa Shawn. Go ahead, please. 209 00:17:55.590 --> 00:18:02.790 Sean Obrien: Thank you. Yes, I have had probably about 15 years of dealing with our V dwellers. 210 00:18:03.040 --> 00:18:04.410 Sean Obrien: and 211 00:18:04.560 --> 00:18:11.069 Sean Obrien: 90% of the time when I deal with them. Either Don't answer the door when you're not. 212 00:18:11.190 --> 00:18:14.840 Sean Obrien: or they're very rude and aggressive. When you do 213 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:29.180 Sean Obrien: so, I don't understand how, providing another layer of protection. Another layer of bureaucracy will help these people and will help our community dealing with an overrun 214 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:33.060 Sean Obrien: population 215 00:18:33.080 --> 00:18:36.650 Sean Obrien: decimating our environment, Our neighborhoods. 216 00:18:36.760 --> 00:18:39.690 Sean Obrien: So I 217 00:18:39.740 --> 00:18:43.819 Sean Obrien: I don't understand fully, though the motion. 218 00:18:44.050 --> 00:18:47.490 Sean Obrien: and therefore i'm against it. Thank you. 219 00:18:49.290 --> 00:18:51.430 Vicki Halliday: That's the end of public comment. Frank. 220 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:54.699 frank murphy: All right. 221 00:18:55.580 --> 00:18:56.960 frank murphy: Committee comment 222 00:18:57.750 --> 00:19:05.589 Vicki Halliday: to go first. I think maybe I could explain it to Shawn Shawn. It's when people get tickets 223 00:19:05.730 --> 00:19:12.300 Vicki Halliday: and have no way to pay them off it through cap. They can do community service hours 224 00:19:12.330 --> 00:19:16.019 Vicki Halliday: which will translate into helping them pay for their tickets. 225 00:19:16.800 --> 00:19:19.290 Vicki Halliday: so that. That's what this is about. 226 00:19:22.530 --> 00:19:23.600 frank murphy: Jodie. 227 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:29.559 Jody Mortimer: Yeah, so it it also 228 00:19:29.840 --> 00:19:37.950 Jody Mortimer: may inspire them to when they're out doing community service to maybe clean up the ribs and stuff like that I wouldn't. 229 00:19:38.430 --> 00:19:41.399 Jody Mortimer: but all the the the same, both. 230 00:19:41.830 --> 00:19:44.559 Jody Mortimer: There's 90%. I think we should deal with this 231 00:19:44.650 --> 00:19:46.690 Jody Mortimer: that the the that are the trouble 232 00:19:47.540 --> 00:19:49.110 Jody Mortimer: I in favor of this motion. 233 00:19:55.510 --> 00:19:59.130 frank murphy: Okay, I'd like to comment on it. 234 00:19:59.940 --> 00:20:03.380 frank murphy: This isn't just for homeless 235 00:20:03.940 --> 00:20:06.870 frank murphy: in our Vs. This is for 236 00:20:07.130 --> 00:20:09.019 frank murphy: everybody in the community. 237 00:20:09.340 --> 00:20:14.470 frank murphy: If you get a if you want to take advantage of the cap program. 238 00:20:14.610 --> 00:20:21.840 frank murphy: you have to go all the way downtown or to other areas of the city in order to fulfill your obligation. 239 00:20:22.460 --> 00:20:24.149 frank murphy: We have plenty 240 00:20:24.190 --> 00:20:28.829 frank murphy: of need for community volunteers here in Venice 241 00:20:29.340 --> 00:20:31.050 frank murphy: and on the West side. 242 00:20:31.580 --> 00:20:34.689 frank murphy: So I don't see this as being. It is 243 00:20:35.090 --> 00:20:42.739 frank murphy: because it's in the Homelessness Committee. It's focused that way. But that is not the end result of this 244 00:20:43.030 --> 00:20:44.749 frank murphy: is is my comment 245 00:20:50.140 --> 00:20:50.820 at. 246 00:20:51.180 --> 00:20:52.690 PatRaphael: I guess a 247 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:58.280 PatRaphael: thank you for pointing that out, Frank. The the big issue we're we're dealing with. 248 00:20:58.620 --> 00:21:03.010 PatRaphael: We have to see this population as a less visible 249 00:21:04.080 --> 00:21:06.769 PatRaphael: big subsection of homeless. 250 00:21:07.050 --> 00:21:10.860 PatRaphael: And what I'm trying to communicate through this motion is. 251 00:21:11.250 --> 00:21:16.139 PatRaphael: if there is a increased posture of enforcement 252 00:21:16.450 --> 00:21:20.199 PatRaphael: and a bunch of these people who are less visible now 253 00:21:20.530 --> 00:21:22.640 PatRaphael: have to end up on the sidewalk. 254 00:21:22.740 --> 00:21:23.829 PatRaphael: We're kind of 255 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:26.559 PatRaphael: setting up the end of right where we started 256 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:29.750 PatRaphael: right. So these people who are living in their vehicles 257 00:21:29.850 --> 00:21:33.339 PatRaphael: who are in a solution. Now, it's not an ideal solution. 258 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:34.960 PatRaphael: because I live in my vehicle. 259 00:21:35.030 --> 00:21:39.700 PatRaphael: and I've got to deal with some of the some of the problems of that issue. 260 00:21:39.820 --> 00:21:40.460 PatRaphael: But 261 00:21:40.530 --> 00:21:41.889 PatRaphael: but I feel like 262 00:21:42.070 --> 00:21:44.620 PatRaphael: doing as much as we can 263 00:21:44.790 --> 00:21:47.899 PatRaphael: to help these folks not end up on the street 264 00:21:47.920 --> 00:22:02.269 PatRaphael: because of something that that they could have access, and it was too hard to access is something to consider. So i'm obviously voting for this, because I got to see how difficult and cumbersome this process was 265 00:22:02.360 --> 00:22:04.710 while trying to access it myself. 266 00:22:04.990 --> 00:22:07.859 PatRaphael: And and and I and I also see finally. 267 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:10.710 PatRaphael: one piece of good that can come out of it. 268 00:22:10.950 --> 00:22:15.920 PatRaphael: Some much needed contact can be had between people who don't have contact 269 00:22:15.950 --> 00:22:21.939 PatRaphael: with somebody like St. Joseph, where the circle team, they can have some contact, and through that contact. 270 00:22:22.030 --> 00:22:28.880 PatRaphael: maybe some sharing of ideas can be available. Some of these people with lived situations 271 00:22:28.910 --> 00:22:31.220 PatRaphael: can explain to a Saint Joseph 272 00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:35.399 PatRaphael: how they can help them better if they are receptive to something like this. 273 00:22:35.430 --> 00:22:45.229 PatRaphael: I say we would never know the benefit of these things. If these camps they so apart, and they don't have this opportunity to Congress like like this motion would provide. 274 00:22:45.390 --> 00:22:46.349 So i'm for it. 275 00:22:47.560 --> 00:22:48.629 frank murphy: Thanks, Pat. 276 00:22:49.790 --> 00:22:51.800 frank murphy: I'm. Jodie, you still have your hand up. 277 00:22:52.390 --> 00:22:54.670 Jody Mortimer: Yeah, real quick. I 278 00:22:54.740 --> 00:22:58.360 Jody Mortimer: I've tried to access this program twice, and 279 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:03.489 Jody Mortimer: if you are for the neighbors. This Fyi. If you 280 00:23:03.560 --> 00:23:09.980 Jody Mortimer: do live in a residence you you have. You have to be registered as homeless in order to qualify for this program. 281 00:23:10.050 --> 00:23:14.450 Jody Mortimer: and my second statement is, what service providers 282 00:23:14.580 --> 00:23:17.449 Jody Mortimer: now are in the West Side that we could go to. 283 00:23:19.110 --> 00:23:20.760 Jody Mortimer: that someone should go to. 284 00:23:21.280 --> 00:23:25.610 From my experience there is no service providers on the West Side. 285 00:23:25.690 --> 00:23:29.229 PatRaphael: even though there is the Latino resource office 286 00:23:29.270 --> 00:23:31.749 PatRaphael: which is in Santa Monica. I guess you can. 287 00:23:31.950 --> 00:23:35.560 PatRaphael: They? They allow you to do something online. 288 00:23:36.010 --> 00:23:40.560 PatRaphael: but you do have to go down down to there. So so yeah, there is. There is 289 00:23:41.990 --> 00:23:43.789 PatRaphael: slim pickings available. 290 00:23:43.900 --> 00:23:46.399 Jody Mortimer: Yeah, I think shared Also does it 291 00:23:47.340 --> 00:23:48.700 call the city? 292 00:23:48.860 --> 00:23:58.019 Jody Mortimer: But you have to be on the registered as homeless. You have to be on their database, or they're not going to. 293 00:23:58.250 --> 00:24:04.979 PatRaphael: If you're homeless, you're generally low income. So that's one way to 294 00:24:05.080 --> 00:24:07.330 PatRaphael: approve the the 295 00:24:07.550 --> 00:24:20.390 Jody Mortimer: eligibility. That's what they call an hmis number. That's that's what I don't want to be on the database and have done these Sb: for that for that assessment 296 00:24:20.410 --> 00:24:22.060 Jody Mortimer: in order to qualify 297 00:24:23.020 --> 00:24:25.099 Jody Mortimer: It's a it's a lot of hoo to right. 298 00:24:30.810 --> 00:24:31.860 frank murphy: Okay. 299 00:24:34.020 --> 00:24:36.170 frank murphy: Given that 300 00:24:38.930 --> 00:24:41.590 frank murphy: Lisa had to comment on the 301 00:24:41.860 --> 00:24:44.739 frank murphy: on path as opposed to a bridge home. 302 00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:47.150 Vicki Halliday: Right? Can we just substitute that 303 00:24:47.820 --> 00:24:51.010 Vicki Halliday: anything else that CD. 11 304 00:24:51.060 --> 00:24:54.430 Vicki Halliday: could contribute to this. Those are just our examples. 305 00:24:55.330 --> 00:25:11.379 frank murphy: Yeah, I think that's I mean it's it's certainly. Okay. With me. I mean, we could have them throw it back to us. But I don't think I mean they would be perfect with that language. But I think everybody understands what we're talking about. It's 306 00:25:11.620 --> 00:25:16.190 Jody Mortimer: to the low income to the actual motion. 307 00:25:16.910 --> 00:25:17.530 Okay? 308 00:25:18.190 --> 00:25:33.030 frank murphy: Well, I would leave that open to. However, you have to apply for that. You'll You'll You'll have to meet their conditions. 309 00:25:33.760 --> 00:25:38.369 frank murphy: You You can find that out for yourself. I'm sure there's other conditions also. 310 00:25:38.530 --> 00:25:43.730 frank murphy: so that wouldn't be the only one we don't need to spell out each one. We're saying, Make this available. 311 00:25:43.840 --> 00:25:44.690 Jody Mortimer: Okay. 312 00:25:45.510 --> 00:25:46.490 Jody Mortimer: Okay. 313 00:25:46.510 --> 00:25:52.230 PatRaphael: And and I guess one more thing. I want to stress this motion isn't telling these people. They have to do this. 314 00:25:52.350 --> 00:25:57.219 PatRaphael: We're just trying to have them explore the possibility of being able to 315 00:25:57.280 --> 00:25:57.980 PatRaphael: the 316 00:25:58.240 --> 00:25:59.730 PatRaphael: in service this way. 317 00:26:00.230 --> 00:26:03.159 PatRaphael: If it's not viable, it's not viable. But let's at least 318 00:26:03.300 --> 00:26:07.090 PatRaphael: try to work with these folks or us folks. 319 00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:11.219 frank murphy: Yeah, that's I think that's understood. 320 00:26:11.250 --> 00:26:14.099 frank murphy: Also in the in the 321 00:26:14.970 --> 00:26:16.770 frank murphy: you know how we're approaching it. 322 00:26:17.080 --> 00:26:20.910 frank murphy: so we'll substitute path for a bridge home. 323 00:26:21.610 --> 00:26:24.980 frank murphy: To be more precise, and 324 00:26:25.250 --> 00:26:27.880 frank murphy: let's go to 325 00:26:29.260 --> 00:26:32.859 frank murphy: Let's see, so so we can go to a vote. 326 00:26:33.310 --> 00:26:39.430 Vicki Halliday: having one question texted to me that there's a thought that maybe Pat should recuse. 327 00:26:40.850 --> 00:26:42.930 Vicki Halliday: since this directly affects him. 328 00:26:45.980 --> 00:26:49.660 frank murphy: I don't see that I mean it. It it 329 00:26:50.260 --> 00:26:57.710 PatRaphael: he's homeless. He has a chance to go on this committee. A lot of homeless conversations directly affect me. 330 00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:01.439 frank murphy: I would 331 00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:05.170 PatRaphael: I was added to the conversation. To 332 00:27:06.320 --> 00:27:07.750 PatRaphael: generate this perspective. 333 00:27:08.520 --> 00:27:14.360 frank murphy: I would say no, and let the Board bring it back to us. 334 00:27:17.850 --> 00:27:21.120 frank murphy: Okay. So we go to vote. 335 00:27:22.300 --> 00:27:23.400 Let me see here. 336 00:27:24.580 --> 00:27:26.530 frank murphy: So 337 00:27:27.780 --> 00:27:29.960 Vicki Halliday: Vicki. Yes. 338 00:27:31.560 --> 00:27:33.070 stand. 339 00:27:33.490 --> 00:27:34.420 Ansar Muhammad: Yes. 340 00:27:35.590 --> 00:27:37.560 Liz. 341 00:27:37.660 --> 00:27:38.490 Elizabeth Wright: Yes. 342 00:27:40.170 --> 00:27:41.800 Pat. 343 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:43.140 PatRaphael: yes. 344 00:27:44.380 --> 00:27:46.130 Jodie. 345 00:27:46.600 --> 00:27:47.590 Jody Mortimer: yes. 346 00:27:48.810 --> 00:27:50.640 frank murphy: and Frank is. Yes. 347 00:27:52.570 --> 00:27:58.579 frank murphy: all right. That is the that is the that's it for this motion. 348 00:27:59.410 --> 00:28:02.430 frank murphy: Now we're go to. 349 00:28:02.610 --> 00:28:07.060 frank murphy: We want to have public comment on non agenda items. 350 00:28:07.190 --> 00:28:08.169 Vicki Halliday: We did that. 351 00:28:09.040 --> 00:28:15.180 frank murphy: Well, we were gonna. I thought we were going to redo it at the end, if if anybody else had anything to add. 352 00:28:15.570 --> 00:28:19.160 frank murphy: because I had it already scheduled that way. 353 00:28:20.080 --> 00:28:22.999 Elizabeth Wright: Sorry. Excuse me before we do that 354 00:28:23.310 --> 00:28:27.820 Elizabeth Wright: pat no notice that the word recipient 355 00:28:27.870 --> 00:28:28.970 Elizabeth Wright: was missing. 356 00:28:29.520 --> 00:28:31.059 Elizabeth Wright: and I wrote it in 357 00:28:36.250 --> 00:28:40.819 Elizabeth Wright: explore the viability of becoming a community service recipient. 358 00:28:46.650 --> 00:28:48.769 Elizabeth Wright: Do I have that correct 359 00:28:51.260 --> 00:28:52.610 frank murphy: E: 360 00:28:52.980 --> 00:28:55.040 PatRaphael: right now. 361 00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:55.740 Yeah. 362 00:29:03.190 --> 00:29:08.720 frank murphy: there'd be any other reason to change your votes based on that language. 363 00:29:09.840 --> 00:29:11.590 Elizabeth Wright: Oh, not to drink. 364 00:29:12.270 --> 00:29:15.120 frank murphy: I mean anybody else. Anybody on the committee. 365 00:29:16.580 --> 00:29:17.750 frank murphy: I don't think so. 366 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:21.420 frank murphy: Okay, Sorry, Vicki. 367 00:29:23.090 --> 00:29:26.399 Elizabeth Wright: So that was just a typo that it was omitted, I think. 368 00:29:26.890 --> 00:29:27.830 frank murphy: Yeah. 369 00:29:31.850 --> 00:29:36.400 PatRaphael: i'm glad I kinda had it in my mind to notice. Bring that in there. 370 00:29:37.670 --> 00:29:44.430 Vicki Halliday: Okay. So we're back to public comment. Okay, Lisa has her end up with Lisa. Why, don't you go ahead. 371 00:29:46.620 --> 00:30:00.550 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Yeah, I want to talk about the inside safe program. Well, on one hand, it's exciting that people are going indoors and people want to go indoors. If we all read the Ran report last week. 372 00:30:00.950 --> 00:30:02.270 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: But 373 00:30:02.390 --> 00:30:06.340 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: i'm very, very concerned about the way it's happening. 374 00:30:06.410 --> 00:30:08.650 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: It's being rushed 375 00:30:08.740 --> 00:30:11.269 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: as opposed to the way it was planned out. 376 00:30:11.340 --> 00:30:14.610 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: you know, slowly, methodically, like on the boardwalk. 377 00:30:15.090 --> 00:30:17.139 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I people are getting wrapped up 378 00:30:17.590 --> 00:30:20.890 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: and swept up and shipped off to 379 00:30:21.340 --> 00:30:33.680 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: motels that are out of their community with no resources. They're not allowed to communicate with each other. They're not allowed to have visitors. People are being taken away from their jobs, and 380 00:30:33.800 --> 00:30:39.890 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: sometimes, and then you've got a curfew of 100'clock. How do they get back from a bus on their job? 381 00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:47.999 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: The bigger concern is now they are quickly as it's now being in place at the medium in 382 00:30:48.190 --> 00:30:50.150 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: by the police station 383 00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:52.910 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: in Del Rey. 384 00:30:53.810 --> 00:30:55.679 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: They've run out of motels. 385 00:30:56.080 --> 00:31:08.120 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: and so they're trying to put people into the West Side motels like the super 8 on Washington and stuff problem is a lot of these aren't used to dealing with these kind of contracts, so they're requiring people 386 00:31:08.320 --> 00:31:11.630 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: like most hotels do to have ids. 387 00:31:12.210 --> 00:31:18.619 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: The majority of UN House people do not have. Ids. So we've got problems with people rushing off 388 00:31:18.690 --> 00:31:23.200 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: to the Dmb. To try and get them get Ids 389 00:31:23.380 --> 00:31:27.880 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: at the same time. Now sanitation is throwing away their belongings. 390 00:31:28.700 --> 00:31:44.560 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: People are confused. They're not being told, answers they. I'm guessing that Saint Joseph's and the Budget doesn't work out to afford some of these West Side Hotel. So people are being told what we're going to move you again in 3 days or in 9 days. And so people don't know what's going on. 391 00:31:45.310 --> 00:31:49.879 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: The people that have been in the motels already from Venice to 3 weeks ago. 392 00:31:49.980 --> 00:32:08.879 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: have no answers either. There is not because this has happened so quickly. They haven't hired up. There's no social workers. There's no case workers. People are not getting any kind of support services at least. Finally, St. Joseph is feeding people plus one there, because that's never worked on any other program. They've done in the past. 393 00:32:09.040 --> 00:32:09.700 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: but 394 00:32:10.030 --> 00:32:14.190 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: it just to sweep people away and say, bravo! We're housing people. 395 00:32:14.430 --> 00:32:23.180 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: It's not that easy. And I think we all need to look at that, because what's gonna happen is we're building a huge house of cards that's gonna fall. 396 00:32:23.740 --> 00:32:33.149 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: and people are going to be away from their communities, away from resources, and they're going to be. They're just going to go tired of it and come back to the street. 397 00:32:33.690 --> 00:32:34.540 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And 398 00:32:34.590 --> 00:32:47.819 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: that's a problematic right there, too, because it's a lot of waste of resources and taxpayer money on top of now people become more and more service resistant, because we've made promises. That haven't been kept. 399 00:32:47.980 --> 00:32:48.830 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: So 400 00:32:49.190 --> 00:32:55.060 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I think we need a lot more transparency and answers other than just saying, oh, Look, Third Street is clean. 401 00:32:56.080 --> 00:32:59.380 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: because what's going to happen to these people? Let's look at them 402 00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:03.730 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: as human and individuals, and not just a location that we're trying to clean up. 403 00:33:04.380 --> 00:33:10.840 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: and that's what we want to do. We want to make this happen. We want to make it work right. So thank you for letting me be on my soapbox for a minute. 404 00:33:10.910 --> 00:33:11.770 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Thank you. 405 00:33:12.500 --> 00:33:13.689 frank murphy: Thanks, Lisa 406 00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:17.060 Shawn. O'brien, go ahead, please. 407 00:33:19.070 --> 00:33:22.570 Sean Obrien: Yeah, I hate to be a to the side. 408 00:33:22.650 --> 00:33:24.779 Sean Obrien: and I do support Pat. 409 00:33:24.940 --> 00:33:26.209 But 410 00:33:26.260 --> 00:33:31.320 Sean Obrien: this so this meeting, this motion it's, violated the brown act. 411 00:33:31.430 --> 00:33:37.769 Sean Obrien: Pad should have been recused from all proceedings after the motion was read 412 00:33:37.900 --> 00:33:40.890 frank murphy: this was for non agenda items. 413 00:33:42.460 --> 00:33:45.929 Sean Obrien: All right. Well, I'm just stating up for the record 414 00:33:46.180 --> 00:34:02.069 Sean Obrien: that you know, and then for non-agendited items hat. Why, Don't, you accept services? Why, don't you take a hotel? You could have got out of the cold. You could have got services, and you could have better your your situation for the future. 415 00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:07.129 frank murphy: He's going to comment on that in the committee comments. 416 00:34:10.110 --> 00:34:12.020 frank murphy: if that's okay, Shawn. 417 00:34:16.550 --> 00:34:17.520 frank murphy: Okay. 418 00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:20.029 Vicki Halliday: comments. So 419 00:34:20.739 --> 00:34:23.149 frank murphy: So let's go to committee comments. 420 00:34:26.130 --> 00:34:29.269 frank murphy: Well, Pat, but let me give you the floor on that one. 421 00:34:29.389 --> 00:34:31.870 PatRaphael: Yeah, I did want to address that. 422 00:34:31.900 --> 00:34:35.379 PatRaphael: My approach to housing 423 00:34:35.710 --> 00:34:37.350 PatRaphael: has always been 424 00:34:37.409 --> 00:34:42.649 PatRaphael: that we should help the ones that are in more dire situations than I am 425 00:34:42.860 --> 00:34:43.589 PatRaphael: right. 426 00:34:43.659 --> 00:34:44.560 PatRaphael: So 427 00:34:44.630 --> 00:34:55.249 PatRaphael: the condition of having a place to to to come out of the elements to store all my stuff, and to you know 428 00:34:55.570 --> 00:34:57.710 PatRaphael: pretty much. Have a house on wheels 429 00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:04.019 PatRaphael: is something that I that I treasure, that I value it. It's because I think this is. This is 430 00:35:04.210 --> 00:35:07.820 PatRaphael: more in tune to my lifestyle into the way I want to live. 431 00:35:08.010 --> 00:35:21.830 PatRaphael: and that's why, when I move through the neighborhood. If I park somewhere, I make sure i'm not a problem to the people that I park nearby. I try to clean up after myself. I don't kiss and crap everywhere. Right? So I 432 00:35:22.040 --> 00:35:24.000 PatRaphael: I I feel like the reason 433 00:35:24.150 --> 00:35:27.200 PatRaphael: I don't have access to a lot of these services 434 00:35:27.420 --> 00:35:28.520 PatRaphael: is because 435 00:35:28.700 --> 00:35:31.220 PatRaphael: the service providers. 436 00:35:31.460 --> 00:35:36.390 PatRaphael: They really are busy trying to deal with more urgent situations. 437 00:35:36.620 --> 00:35:41.070 PatRaphael: and I don't feel like I really need an urgent a 438 00:35:41.180 --> 00:35:45.119 PatRaphael: help as somebody that might have no option that might be 439 00:35:45.140 --> 00:35:46.679 PatRaphael: sleeping on the sidewalk. 440 00:35:46.780 --> 00:35:49.779 PatRaphael: and they're walking past them over and over in 441 00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:51.419 PatRaphael: from my perspective. 442 00:35:51.510 --> 00:35:53.390 PatRaphael: not doing much about it. 443 00:35:53.510 --> 00:35:58.479 PatRaphael: and I understand some of them may not want the service that are provided, because often 444 00:35:58.540 --> 00:36:09.070 PatRaphael: the service provided has a whole bunch of strings with that right has a bunch of things that you have to do in order to get it so often myself, who i'm thinking 445 00:36:09.130 --> 00:36:10.560 PatRaphael: like 446 00:36:11.290 --> 00:36:18.980 PatRaphael: I have full autonomy of my life. I try to make decisions on my own in in, and do what's best for me, and not the 447 00:36:19.670 --> 00:36:26.030 PatRaphael: and not ask anybody to really do anything for me, because for the most part I feel like I can take care of myself. 448 00:36:28.150 --> 00:36:29.069 frank murphy: Thanks 449 00:36:29.110 --> 00:36:31.909 frank murphy: that, Stan. 450 00:36:32.150 --> 00:36:40.049 Ansar Muhammad: You wanted to respond to Lisa Redmond's comments. I wanted to thank Lisa for 451 00:36:40.680 --> 00:36:42.549 Ansar Muhammad: her comments. 452 00:36:44.130 --> 00:36:45.819 Ansar Muhammad: It's really 453 00:36:46.340 --> 00:36:48.260 Ansar Muhammad: it touched my heart, Lisa. So 454 00:36:48.950 --> 00:36:51.919 Ansar Muhammad: you know we we have a Tennessee to. 455 00:36:52.750 --> 00:36:55.549 Ansar Muhammad: and i'm saying society, not me as a person, but 456 00:36:56.180 --> 00:36:59.000 Ansar Muhammad: we have a tendency as a society to forget 457 00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:03.110 Ansar Muhammad: about the atrocities that have happened to. 458 00:37:03.700 --> 00:37:08.190 Ansar Muhammad: You know black people over the years and things is occurring still to this day. 459 00:37:08.730 --> 00:37:14.940 Ansar Muhammad: So I just wanted to thank you, Lisa, for bringing to our attention that, in fact, black History month. Do start tomorrow. 460 00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.280 Ansar Muhammad: and I will be celebrating 461 00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:19.719 Ansar Muhammad: on some level for the rest of the month. 462 00:37:20.310 --> 00:37:22.909 Ansar Muhammad: starting tomorrow. Thank you for that. Least. I appreciate it. 463 00:37:26.140 --> 00:37:29.630 frank murphy: Thanks, Stan. Jody. Sorry. 464 00:37:30.490 --> 00:37:33.080 Jody Mortimer: This is comment on non-agenda items. Correct. 465 00:37:33.600 --> 00:37:34.419 frank murphy: Correct. 466 00:37:34.980 --> 00:37:40.180 Jody Mortimer: Okay. I I just wanted to comment. We had the motion. What is our next step 467 00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:45.419 Jody Mortimer: in the process of getting those locks bosses installed are the 468 00:37:45.730 --> 00:37:47.420 Jody Mortimer: Get them? Do we have to wait for the city? 469 00:37:47.640 --> 00:37:49.129 Jody Mortimer: I mean they do the Council 470 00:37:49.620 --> 00:37:53.040 Jody Mortimer: to get back to us, or how does this work? From this point. 471 00:37:56.270 --> 00:37:58.059 frank murphy: Vicki, You want to comment on that 472 00:38:02.200 --> 00:38:05.060 Vicki Halliday: possibilities with the different providers. 473 00:38:06.190 --> 00:38:13.289 Vicki Halliday: and then you know they'll They'll let everybody know what this you know the the ultimate solutions 474 00:38:13.460 --> 00:38:15.250 Vicki Halliday: are that they came up with. 475 00:38:16.470 --> 00:38:19.069 Vicki Halliday: So it's pretty much in their hands. Now, Jodi. 476 00:38:20.010 --> 00:38:23.309 Jody Mortimer: Okay, do what we do like a follow up in a couple of months. 477 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:31.739 Vicki Halliday: I mean, I think, that pretty soon we will. By the next meeting we will have 478 00:38:32.210 --> 00:38:34.540 Vicki Halliday: parks, you know rep 479 00:38:35.010 --> 00:38:36.469 Vicki Halliday: homelessness rep 480 00:38:36.790 --> 00:38:39.520 Vicki Halliday: here at the meeting, so we can always just ask them 481 00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:45.150 Vicki Halliday: and it, you know, if it isn't on their radar, it can go on their radar. 482 00:38:45.500 --> 00:38:55.460 frank murphy: Thanks, Vicki. Appreciate it to ask you, Vicki. There's no there's nothing to to to Jody. I wouldn't hold back. Call 483 00:38:55.640 --> 00:38:59.080 Vicki Halliday: Tracy's office. 484 00:39:00.220 --> 00:39:05.759 Jody Mortimer: Okay, your the individual or part of the homeless committee, because I know at least I may not. 485 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.039 Jody Mortimer: And then I have the authority to do that. 486 00:39:08.500 --> 00:39:14.550 frank murphy: No, no, you can call it. You're a member of the Homeless Homelessness Committee. So yeah, definitely. 487 00:39:14.600 --> 00:39:17.980 Jody Mortimer: sounds good. I'll. I'll get back to this. We'll talk you back to everybody by next month. 488 00:39:18.310 --> 00:39:19.359 Vicki Halliday: Thanks, Candy. 489 00:39:21.220 --> 00:39:23.619 frank murphy: Pat. Your hand is still is up. 490 00:39:23.730 --> 00:39:28.269 PatRaphael: Yeah, I just wanted to quickly, because I've been checking out some media 491 00:39:28.430 --> 00:39:30.680 PatRaphael: coverage of the 492 00:39:31.050 --> 00:39:33.710 PatRaphael: going inside plan. 493 00:39:34.140 --> 00:39:37.529 PatRaphael: They're talking about it as housing 494 00:39:38.110 --> 00:39:40.110 PatRaphael: when it really this is shelter. 495 00:39:40.410 --> 00:39:47.479 PatRaphael: We have to always kind of differentiate in the language. The city is going out of the way to pay a lot for sheltering folks. 496 00:39:47.510 --> 00:39:55.209 PatRaphael: but not as much long-term energy is being put into housing and I wanted that that came up among some other folks 497 00:39:55.250 --> 00:40:09.439 PatRaphael: that I was talking to last week, and I thought it was important to to to point that out that there is a big difference between housing and shelter, and it seems like what we're concentrating on on the short term is more shelter. 498 00:40:09.520 --> 00:40:13.970 PatRaphael: Then then a a a process of getting people to housing. 499 00:40:14.980 --> 00:40:15.819 frank murphy: Thanks. 500 00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:21.690 frank murphy: Colette has joined us. 501 00:40:22.020 --> 00:40:27.569 frank murphy: Colette. It looks like we're getting close to the end. Do you have anything you want to comment on 502 00:40:34.590 --> 00:40:38.670 colette: Hi, no, I'm. I'm: okay. At this point. 503 00:40:40.290 --> 00:40:41.310 frank murphy: Okay. 504 00:40:43.910 --> 00:40:49.930 frank murphy: Jody has his hand up. It was a further comment. Jody, or did you just not? 505 00:40:54.190 --> 00:40:56.799 Jody Mortimer: I'm: Sorry my fault. I 506 00:40:56.950 --> 00:41:01.600 frank murphy: and I some the same as true for you, Pat. Okay, Patch Got it all right. 507 00:41:01.770 --> 00:41:04.660 frank murphy: Well, at this point, then. 508 00:41:05.350 --> 00:41:06.839 frank murphy: I 509 00:41:08.190 --> 00:41:10.140 frank murphy: i'm going to adjourn the meeting. 510 00:41:10.490 --> 00:41:11.250 Vicki Halliday: Great 511 00:41:11.410 --> 00:41:14.260 frank murphy: sorry it was so short, Colette. 512 00:41:15.610 --> 00:41:22.969 frank murphy: but thanks, and I really appreciate everybody coming in, and I truly appreciate the 10 Attendees. 513 00:41:22.990 --> 00:41:26.950 frank murphy: you know, for coming in and voicing their opinions. This is really 514 00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:31.420 frank murphy: It's an ongoing process. It's a slug, but 515 00:41:31.540 --> 00:41:32.779 frank murphy: let's keep it up. 516 00:41:33.420 --> 00:41:38.939 Vicki Halliday: Thanks. 517 00:41:39.160 --> 00:41:40.700 Ansar Muhammad: take care. 518 00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:42.819 Elizabeth Wright: take care, bye, bye.