WEBVTT 1 00:00:53.330 --> 00:00:56.869 frank murphy: I have a new camera, Vicki, so I hope it stays. 2 00:00:58.290 --> 00:00:59.730 frank murphy: I hope it works. 3 00:00:59.940 --> 00:01:07.000 Vicki Halliday: Nothing is working on Zoom tonight. I see Pab started 30 min late, because they couldn't get their link to work. 4 00:01:07.060 --> 00:01:10.679 Vicki Halliday: Then I couldn't get logged in here. I was going through 5 00:01:10.800 --> 00:01:13.239 Vicki Halliday: Oops trying to get this meeting going 6 00:01:14.210 --> 00:01:17.919 Vicki Halliday: so hopefully it'll all come down now. I'll watch for people to come in. 7 00:01:19.260 --> 00:01:23.350 frank murphy: Sorry I was coming in. Oh, you got him. Yeah. 8 00:01:27.250 --> 00:01:29.749 frank murphy: I think the Kales over, and 9 00:01:30.870 --> 00:01:32.979 frank murphy: he he 10 00:01:34.570 --> 00:01:36.100 frank murphy: had texted me. 11 00:01:37.440 --> 00:01:45.550 frank murphy: So he's he's going to be trying to. I think he's going to be trying to log in. 12 00:01:45.960 --> 00:01:46.880 frank murphy: Okay. 13 00:01:47.320 --> 00:01:49.990 Vicki Halliday: because I don't know all of his people. 14 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:53.710 frank murphy: Does that You need to be more of a 15 00:01:56.000 --> 00:02:00.009 frank murphy: or something. 16 00:02:00.100 --> 00:02:01.009 frank murphy: Okay. 17 00:02:01.130 --> 00:02:02.780 Vicki Halliday: from being panelists. 18 00:02:04.430 --> 00:02:07.649 frank murphy: I hope he's not having a problem 19 00:02:12.060 --> 00:02:15.000 Vicki Halliday: shows he's on. Got a brand new camera. Huh? 20 00:02:15.530 --> 00:02:16.520 frank murphy: Yeah. 21 00:02:17.330 --> 00:02:24.020 frank murphy: Yeah, I had to put, you know, an additional one that the one in the system wasn't working so 22 00:02:24.160 --> 00:02:31.140 frank murphy: hopefully, if this one works i'll be able to replace the one inside the computer or inside the laptop. 23 00:02:31.290 --> 00:02:36.300 frank murphy: But you know the clip on ones. You're great. 24 00:02:36.340 --> 00:02:38.649 frank murphy: Yeah, real cheap, too. 25 00:02:41.410 --> 00:02:43.870 Vicki Halliday: Yeah. So my phone was going. Nuts 26 00:02:44.610 --> 00:02:46.249 Vicki Halliday: was Westchester people. 27 00:02:46.440 --> 00:02:48.349 frank murphy: Yeah, that's what I heard tell. 28 00:02:48.580 --> 00:02:53.280 frank murphy: because I got that message. But this Isn't West Chester? 29 00:02:53.990 --> 00:02:57.050 frank murphy: No; but I think when Dario mentioned 30 00:02:57.110 --> 00:03:03.330 Vicki Halliday: a location in Westchester last time in one of the Palisades, now they monitor us like 31 00:03:04.510 --> 00:03:05.980 Vicki Halliday: like crazy. 32 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:12.279 frank murphy: We're talking about all of District 11, including Venice. 33 00:03:13.160 --> 00:03:13.770 Vicki Halliday: Yeah. 34 00:03:14.040 --> 00:03:17.550 Vicki Halliday: Okay, there's Pat. Let me let me start promoting people. 35 00:03:18.200 --> 00:03:18.950 This. 36 00:03:29.410 --> 00:03:30.050 Hmm. 37 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:40.579 frank murphy: You okay. There, hey, Frank. No, the camera is not working on my end, so i'm going to fall in 38 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:44.049 frank murphy: to the 39 00:03:45.180 --> 00:03:49.620 frank murphy: Okay. Now, I'll be able to share my screen. But I. 40 00:03:55.330 --> 00:03:57.760 You know we'll be able to show my 41 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:00.980 all right. I guess i'm in. 42 00:04:09.150 --> 00:04:13.679 frank murphy: and Dario is having some problems with his image coming up. 43 00:04:15.010 --> 00:04:18.780 frank murphy: Something's going on with Zoom tonight. It's been 44 00:04:19.850 --> 00:04:21.010 Vicki Halliday: really are. 45 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:24.499 frank murphy: Yeah, we got pat. So there you go. 46 00:04:25.500 --> 00:04:26.090 Good. 47 00:04:27.540 --> 00:04:28.790 frank murphy: good start. 48 00:04:31.520 --> 00:04:37.310 PatRaphael: I still can't get it to play through the through the right speaker. It's still playing through the device. Speaker. 49 00:04:38.300 --> 00:04:39.180 frank murphy: Yeah. 50 00:04:41.090 --> 00:04:44.030 PatRaphael: see switch to that gallery view. 51 00:04:44.750 --> 00:04:47.289 PatRaphael: We go. That's got everybody on there. 52 00:04:48.340 --> 00:04:49.540 frank murphy: There you go. 53 00:04:50.090 --> 00:04:50.840 right. 54 00:05:02.960 --> 00:05:03.950 frank murphy: hey? 55 00:05:11.530 --> 00:05:14.880 frank murphy: All right, all right. 56 00:05:16.880 --> 00:05:18.460 frank murphy: Oh. 57 00:05:32.650 --> 00:05:38.500 frank murphy: I don't know if Mikhail has anything that he wants to speak to right out the gate. 58 00:05:39.100 --> 00:05:42.509 frank murphy: I just had a couple of paragraphs. I wanted to 59 00:05:44.750 --> 00:05:46.090 frank murphy: my usual 60 00:05:46.670 --> 00:05:47.670 frank murphy: saying. 61 00:06:20.610 --> 00:06:26.120 PatRaphael: I don't I feel like i'm covering everything up. But there was another death in Venice. 62 00:06:26.860 --> 00:06:34.119 PatRaphael: Somebody died 2 days ago, and the corner had to come out there, and it's somebody that I knew 63 00:06:34.570 --> 00:06:35.320 Vicki Halliday: where 64 00:06:35.540 --> 00:06:38.090 PatRaphael: right there by 65 00:06:38.170 --> 00:06:39.840 PatRaphael: by Brooks bathroom. 66 00:06:40.520 --> 00:06:43.229 PatRaphael: Oh, yeah, I did hear about that. 67 00:06:43.350 --> 00:06:48.019 PatRaphael: Yeah, this happened like 2 days ago or a day and a half ago 2 days ago. 68 00:06:48.980 --> 00:06:51.860 PatRaphael: Yeah. And he was only 52 years old. 69 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:53.879 PatRaphael: He had a 70 00:06:54.700 --> 00:06:56.100 PatRaphael: a heart attack 71 00:06:56.480 --> 00:07:01.289 PatRaphael: in the overnight hours, and, like nobody realized he was dead for hours. 72 00:07:03.380 --> 00:07:06.240 PatRaphael: like somebody tried to talk to him, and then he was already 73 00:07:06.700 --> 00:07:08.390 PatRaphael: as they stay stiff. 74 00:07:09.100 --> 00:07:09.810 Vicki Halliday: Yeah. 75 00:07:11.070 --> 00:07:16.379 PatRaphael: so it's making what Frank says in the beginning of meetings 76 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:19.970 PatRaphael: ring more and more true that you know it's 77 00:07:20.460 --> 00:07:24.199 PatRaphael: really hard and inhumane to to, you know. Give folks up. 78 00:07:24.330 --> 00:07:25.940 That is the only option. 79 00:07:26.210 --> 00:07:27.180 frank murphy: Yeah. 80 00:07:28.050 --> 00:07:30.300 Dario Alvarez: that one, too. Can Can you folks hear me? 81 00:07:30.850 --> 00:07:33.160 frank murphy: Yeah. 82 00:07:33.530 --> 00:07:35.430 Dario Alvarez: Okay. Good sorry to interrupt. I just 83 00:07:35.470 --> 00:07:37.090 Vicki Halliday: now my audio works. And 84 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:41.910 Dario Alvarez: do you mind if I test the screen share once, just to 85 00:07:42.650 --> 00:07:47.520 just to make sure that it works. It, says Host. Disabled participants, screen, sharing 86 00:07:50.100 --> 00:07:52.879 Dario Alvarez: you please, enable participant screen sharing. 87 00:07:53.150 --> 00:07:55.080 Vicki Halliday: Let's see here. 88 00:07:58.940 --> 00:08:00.180 Vicki Halliday: let's see 89 00:08:16.770 --> 00:08:19.270 Vicki Halliday: showing that you can, Dario. 90 00:08:21.380 --> 00:08:22.509 Dario Alvarez: I me try again. 91 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:26.430 Dario Alvarez: No, I when I try to 92 00:08:26.870 --> 00:08:30.049 Dario Alvarez: share screen. Oh, no. Now it's working. Let's see. 93 00:08:30.110 --> 00:08:31.070 Vicki Halliday: There you go. 94 00:08:33.970 --> 00:08:34.539 Okay. 95 00:08:34.590 --> 00:08:36.310 Dario Alvarez: is something that's visible. 96 00:08:37.020 --> 00:08:37.669 Yep. 97 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:39.940 frank murphy: Yeah, we can see that now. Yeah. 98 00:08:44.730 --> 00:08:45.410 Okay. 99 00:09:02.640 --> 00:09:06.260 frank murphy: So I flied most people. And so I think we're 100 00:09:06.630 --> 00:09:08.080 frank murphy: should be good. 101 00:09:08.730 --> 00:09:13.629 Vicki Halliday: Yeah, I know Brian was in the same meeting I was in. I don't know if that's over yet. 102 00:09:16.570 --> 00:09:19.130 Vicki Halliday: I don't think it is because they started late 103 00:09:20.040 --> 00:09:25.170 Vicki Halliday: that I think they had to be out at 7, so. 104 00:09:30.180 --> 00:09:33.690 frank murphy: So I think I know Liz is coming. 105 00:09:34.190 --> 00:09:40.249 frank murphy: So she had some troubles with her speaker. So I said, Well, yeah, she 106 00:09:40.520 --> 00:09:42.120 Vicki Halliday: she 107 00:09:42.530 --> 00:09:45.270 whoops 108 00:09:46.620 --> 00:09:48.689 Vicki Halliday: Yeah, she email me. 109 00:09:50.100 --> 00:09:51.539 Vicki Halliday: I told her I would look for. 110 00:10:02.260 --> 00:10:06.820 Vicki Halliday: Let me make. 111 00:10:16.210 --> 00:10:18.589 frank murphy: Oh, there's Brian. Okay, good. 112 00:10:38.870 --> 00:10:42.700 Vicki Halliday: So I made both you and mikkel co-host. Right? So 113 00:10:46.040 --> 00:10:51.210 frank murphy: okay, thanks, Vicki. I'm going to be working off my phone right. So 114 00:10:51.570 --> 00:10:53.910 frank murphy: I don't know how how useful 115 00:10:54.050 --> 00:10:57.880 Michael Jensen: co-hosting will be for me, but 116 00:10:58.940 --> 00:11:00.180 frank murphy: no problem 117 00:11:05.390 --> 00:11:08.590 Vicki Halliday: may have to help me with some of your Olympic members. I 118 00:11:09.260 --> 00:11:12.110 Vicki Halliday: don't have all the names memorized. 119 00:11:17.250 --> 00:11:18.960 Vicki Halliday: Somebody's in the desert. 120 00:11:25.930 --> 00:11:27.200 frank murphy: Oh, there we go. 121 00:12:01.780 --> 00:12:04.229 Vicki Halliday: Learn sequels on your committee. Correct. 122 00:12:06.050 --> 00:12:06.830 frank murphy: Yeah. 123 00:14:49.140 --> 00:14:51.569 frank murphy: hey, Jim, you're flipping in and out. 124 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:58.600 jim murez: They just updated by zoom, and I don't know what's happening. 125 00:14:58.760 --> 00:15:08.389 Jody Mortimer: Zoom is all over the place tonight. Everybody is in trouble. Sorry I forgot I was playing tennis. Jodie Mortimer, Present 126 00:15:08.910 --> 00:15:10.860 frank murphy: You got it, Jody. 127 00:15:13.710 --> 00:15:16.160 frank murphy: We'll give it another couple of minutes here. 128 00:15:22.610 --> 00:15:24.140 frank murphy: What happened to Lauren. 129 00:15:28.580 --> 00:15:29.620 lauren siegel: I'm right here. 130 00:15:30.640 --> 00:15:33.010 frank murphy: Oh, I'm not seeing you. Okay? Good. 131 00:15:33.590 --> 00:15:34.630 frank murphy: Sorry. 132 00:15:44.280 --> 00:15:45.630 frank murphy: So we are. 133 00:15:57.080 --> 00:15:57.980 Yes, that 134 00:15:58.860 --> 00:15:59.790 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: good to know you. 135 00:16:06.010 --> 00:16:10.840 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I 136 00:16:12.690 --> 00:16:13.800 Jody Mortimer: Okay. Here we go. 137 00:16:14.520 --> 00:16:19.069 Jody Mortimer: this meeting the land, planning this meeting. 138 00:16:19.090 --> 00:16:22.950 Jody Mortimer: the board meeting, and the 24 h all mixed up. 139 00:16:37.190 --> 00:16:41.660 frank murphy: Can we start and then pick up as we get more in? 140 00:16:44.040 --> 00:16:46.230 Vicki Halliday: Well does, either committee have quorum. 141 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:54.410 frank murphy: We do. 142 00:16:54.470 --> 00:16:55.270 Brian U: There we go. 143 00:16:55.710 --> 00:16:56.950 Michael Jensen: Yeah, we do not. 144 00:17:01.060 --> 00:17:02.510 Michael Jensen: But does that mean the 145 00:17:02.700 --> 00:17:07.109 Michael Jensen: It can just start as a single meeting and then flip into a joint when enough people join. 146 00:17:07.690 --> 00:17:14.229 frank murphy: Well, and also we're not we're not bringing up any motion, so I think if we've got one, that 147 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:15.870 frank murphy: that 148 00:17:17.099 --> 00:17:18.760 frank murphy: as a quorum we can 149 00:17:20.430 --> 00:17:21.630 frank murphy: move ahead. 150 00:17:22.250 --> 00:17:26.140 jim murez: Yeah, Frank, you're correct. As long as there's no motions being discussed. 151 00:17:26.310 --> 00:17:27.640 frank murphy: Yeah. 152 00:17:28.099 --> 00:17:34.529 jim murez: the the you know, the only potential problem could be that if it's something that you wanted to create a motion for later. 153 00:17:36.190 --> 00:17:40.529 frank murphy: and he wasn't there. But he was noticed either way so 154 00:17:40.750 --> 00:17:44.509 frank murphy: and and and I think more will show up. I know 155 00:17:44.970 --> 00:17:49.740 frank murphy: some folks on on our committee. We're gonna be a little late, so 156 00:17:50.120 --> 00:17:53.110 frank murphy: we should see them as time goes on. 157 00:17:54.740 --> 00:18:00.949 frank murphy: All right. So let's I'll call the roll call for the Homelessness Committee 158 00:18:01.410 --> 00:18:04.230 frank murphy: is Brian. 159 00:18:05.660 --> 00:18:06.210 Jody Mortimer: Oh. 160 00:18:06.820 --> 00:18:08.589 frank murphy: let's not here. 161 00:18:08.800 --> 00:18:09.800 frank murphy: Okay. 162 00:18:10.150 --> 00:18:11.160 PatRaphael: Here. 163 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:15.090 frank murphy: This is not here. 164 00:18:15.670 --> 00:18:17.349 frank murphy: Vicki, Here 165 00:18:19.270 --> 00:18:21.330 frank murphy: she is not here, Jody. 166 00:18:21.750 --> 00:18:22.500 Jody Mortimer: here. 167 00:18:23.750 --> 00:18:25.010 frank murphy: and i'm here. 168 00:18:26.820 --> 00:18:29.719 frank murphy: Do you want to call your roll call, Michelle? 169 00:18:31.530 --> 00:18:35.229 Michael Jensen: Yeah. I mean, if we don't have quorum. Does that make sense? 170 00:18:38.490 --> 00:18:41.169 frank murphy: I? You call it. We'll add them in as they come in. 171 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:45.910 frank murphy: We got 172 00:18:46.110 --> 00:18:47.850 Michael Jensen: okay. Just give me a second 173 00:18:50.680 --> 00:18:51.410 second home. 174 00:18:59.280 --> 00:19:00.470 Yup. 175 00:19:02.310 --> 00:19:03.380 Michael Jensen: and 176 00:19:03.830 --> 00:19:07.199 Michael Jensen: sorry. It's hard to just look at the list and the attendees list 177 00:19:07.360 --> 00:19:08.499 Michael Jensen: at the same time. 178 00:19:09.030 --> 00:19:09.730 Okay. 179 00:19:19.370 --> 00:19:23.689 Michael Jensen: all right. So i'm here, Corinne. I don't see her. 180 00:19:24.940 --> 00:19:28.349 Michael Jensen: Let me just check the full list again. 181 00:19:28.470 --> 00:19:30.280 lauren siegel: Not here. 182 00:19:31.820 --> 00:19:32.890 Michael Jensen: Lauren. 183 00:19:32.930 --> 00:19:33.650 lauren siegel: here. 184 00:19:37.280 --> 00:19:38.580 Michael Jensen: and 185 00:19:38.940 --> 00:19:40.970 Michael Jensen: Chris don't see him 186 00:19:42.790 --> 00:19:43.950 Michael Jensen: and 187 00:19:44.580 --> 00:19:45.500 Michael Jensen: Barry. 188 00:19:50.040 --> 00:19:51.349 Michael Jensen: I don't see him. 189 00:19:51.700 --> 00:19:54.179 Michael Jensen: Matthew Royce. 190 00:19:55.130 --> 00:19:57.600 Michael Jensen: Andrew Mika marnish. I see you. 191 00:20:02.530 --> 00:20:04.180 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Are you there? 192 00:20:04.340 --> 00:20:05.510 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, okay. 193 00:20:06.090 --> 00:20:08.919 Michael Jensen: and no Jeff Martin yet. 194 00:20:11.510 --> 00:20:15.830 Michael Jensen: So i'll I'll keep an eye on the attendees. Listen. I'll I'll update it as we go. 195 00:20:17.730 --> 00:20:19.290 frank murphy: All right. Perfect. 196 00:20:31.020 --> 00:20:33.950 frank murphy: all right, so 197 00:20:34.280 --> 00:20:35.820 frank murphy: as far as it 198 00:20:37.100 --> 00:20:39.219 frank murphy: share report. I got 199 00:20:39.510 --> 00:20:41.939 frank murphy: just a little bit to mention here. 200 00:20:45.130 --> 00:20:47.300 frank murphy: just for clarity. 201 00:20:47.360 --> 00:20:55.530 frank murphy: First of all. I wanted to state again that the homeless being accommodated on the streets and sidewalks of our community and the city as a whole. 202 00:20:55.740 --> 00:21:02.929 frank murphy: is the most inhumane, brutal, unsafe, and unsanitary emergency shelter solution before 203 00:21:03.210 --> 00:21:07.419 frank murphy: for both the unhoused and the housed populations. 204 00:21:08.120 --> 00:21:10.640 frank murphy: and Tracy Park 205 00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:11.940 frank murphy: and 206 00:21:12.070 --> 00:21:13.560 frank murphy: Mayor Bass 207 00:21:14.090 --> 00:21:23.089 frank murphy: and showing us over the past 2 weeks. A very aggressive, constructive, sensitive solutions are in and response to the homelessness issue. 208 00:21:23.190 --> 00:21:27.219 frank murphy: and have expressed equal, bigger and resolving housing issues. 209 00:21:27.730 --> 00:21:38.099 frank murphy: I just want to warn that just because the problem is less visible today than it was 2 weeks ago, does not mean that the problem has been solved or resolved 210 00:21:38.290 --> 00:21:41.979 frank murphy: just a case in point. Some 50% of recipients 211 00:21:42.040 --> 00:21:46.750 frank murphy: of assistance repopulate the streets in a very short period of time. 212 00:21:47.270 --> 00:21:54.130 frank murphy: just to get a perspective as to subsidize housing and homelessness, and their direct impact on Venice 213 00:21:54.900 --> 00:22:02.620 frank murphy: for the 2,022 homeless count of all the homeless and CD 1145% reside in Venice 214 00:22:03.010 --> 00:22:07.839 frank murphy: as of the 2,020 housing analysis, with the addition of thatcher 215 00:22:08.010 --> 00:22:09.100 frank murphy: rose 216 00:22:09.560 --> 00:22:10.950 frank murphy: and Lincoln 217 00:22:10.980 --> 00:22:19.089 frank murphy: of all the low-income low-income psh housing in CD 1140% of it is located in Venice. 218 00:22:19.260 --> 00:22:23.670 frank murphy: That being said, said, Venice, accounts for 5% of the area. 219 00:22:23.790 --> 00:22:30.030 frank murphy: 14 of the population and 16% of the housing stock of all of CD. 11. 220 00:22:30.760 --> 00:22:41.919 frank murphy: For all its faults and acrimony, Venice is one of the largest suppliers of sidewalks base, and subsidized housing in all of La, and by far the largest in CD 11. 221 00:22:42.280 --> 00:22:47.240 frank murphy: This type of concentration in one community is not acceptable on so many levels 222 00:22:47.410 --> 00:22:49.739 frank murphy: for the house and on house citizens. 223 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:54.509 frank murphy: Disbursements throughout the overall community is known to be beneficial to all. 224 00:22:55.140 --> 00:23:00.670 frank murphy: If we do not participate in this conversation, solutions will be imposed upon us. 225 00:23:00.730 --> 00:23:06.010 frank murphy: we must practically and constructively participate in identifying parcels 226 00:23:06.270 --> 00:23:13.750 frank murphy: for an advocating information implementation of emergency shelters and interim housing 227 00:23:14.460 --> 00:23:16.170 frank murphy: with that in mind. 228 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:26.559 frank murphy: Dario Rodham Alvarez will share with us parcel availability based on criteria stipulated by various 229 00:23:26.990 --> 00:23:29.850 frank murphy: agencies, courts, or an ordinances 230 00:23:30.610 --> 00:23:40.859 frank murphy: for sites to accommodate emergency safe and sanitary camping, parking so, and parking sites and tiny home sites 231 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:43.350 frank murphy: for a combination of 232 00:23:43.860 --> 00:23:49.889 frank murphy: of emergency shelter and emergency interim housing solutions 233 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:52.220 frank murphy: that have been presented to 234 00:23:52.410 --> 00:23:53.910 frank murphy: the mayor. 235 00:23:54.210 --> 00:23:59.379 frank murphy: So with that being, said Michael, you want to add anything to that. 236 00:24:04.190 --> 00:24:05.959 Michael Jensen: So I would just add that 237 00:24:06.700 --> 00:24:10.969 Michael Jensen: the end product of this is not necessarily that 238 00:24:11.780 --> 00:24:17.520 Michael Jensen: we are supposed to identify a bunch of places to stick either temporary or permanent housing. 239 00:24:17.570 --> 00:24:19.259 Michael Jensen: I I think 240 00:24:19.470 --> 00:24:21.149 Michael Jensen: it it is 241 00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:26.339 Michael Jensen: perfectly cost, or you know, reasonable, or even possible, that 242 00:24:26.900 --> 00:24:35.269 Michael Jensen: we may have found that all the sites are currently being used for similar services like that, so I wouldn't look at this, as 243 00:24:35.500 --> 00:24:36.149 Michael Jensen: you know. 244 00:24:36.710 --> 00:24:39.620 Michael Jensen: the goal in this is not to necessarily 245 00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:42.199 Michael Jensen: find places only in our community 246 00:24:42.770 --> 00:24:45.390 Michael Jensen: to create these facilities 247 00:24:45.830 --> 00:24:48.609 more than they already exist. 248 00:24:52.570 --> 00:24:54.219 Michael Jensen: or at least that's how my take on it. 249 00:24:55.540 --> 00:24:56.640 frank murphy: All right 250 00:24:58.220 --> 00:25:01.069 frank murphy: with that, I think. 251 00:25:01.120 --> 00:25:03.909 frank murphy: Dial. Or do you want to 252 00:25:05.170 --> 00:25:08.799 frank murphy: share a screen? Hi, Elizabeth, Elizabeth. 253 00:25:08.840 --> 00:25:09.910 frank murphy: Come in 254 00:25:10.140 --> 00:25:13.230 frank murphy: Dario. Do you want to share screen? And 255 00:25:13.600 --> 00:25:15.580 frank murphy: yeah. 256 00:25:16.070 --> 00:25:20.130 Dario Alvarez: first on me, I'll give a short introduction of the 257 00:25:20.670 --> 00:25:26.860 Dario Alvarez: center for Pacific urbanism for those who are getting to know our work for the first time. 258 00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:36.649 Dario Alvarez: and and then i'll share the screen after that in essence. What I will do is, i'm going to try to make a distinction between interim 259 00:25:37.550 --> 00:25:39.140 Dario Alvarez: temporary shelters 260 00:25:39.300 --> 00:25:41.609 Dario Alvarez: and permanent emergency housing. 261 00:25:42.060 --> 00:25:44.359 Dario Alvarez: and then introduce the 262 00:25:44.860 --> 00:25:52.049 Dario Alvarez: research initiative that the center for pacific urbanism has been working on for a number of years to identify potentially suitable land 263 00:25:52.280 --> 00:25:53.220 Dario Alvarez: that 264 00:25:54.010 --> 00:25:56.170 the purposes of both 265 00:25:57.390 --> 00:25:59.630 Dario Alvarez: temporary shelters and permanent housing. 266 00:25:59.970 --> 00:26:01.890 Dario Alvarez: So for those who 267 00:26:03.130 --> 00:26:05.400 Dario Alvarez: are getting to know our work for the first time 268 00:26:05.710 --> 00:26:15.300 Dario Alvarez: here. The center for pacific urbanism is a 5, 1, one, c. 3 nonprofit organization. Better by the principles of social equity, environmental justice and community economic development. 269 00:26:15.900 --> 00:26:26.959 Dario Alvarez: Through the assembly and analysis of empirical data we construct an understanding of how policies affect the city in order to develop visionary proposals and establish more equitable and sustainable communities. 270 00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:38.040 Dario Alvarez: Our areas of research include housing, homelessness, demographics, land use environmental justice, economics, racial equity, energy, water and transportation. 271 00:26:38.930 --> 00:26:42.699 Dario Alvarez: So if anyone is interested in learning more about our work, you can visit 272 00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:51.130 Dario Alvarez: Www. Dot, pacific urbanism.org, and see our articles that have been published and are different research initiatives. 273 00:26:51.750 --> 00:26:54.189 Dario Alvarez: With that I will begin sharing screens. 274 00:26:54.270 --> 00:26:55.220 Dario Alvarez: and 275 00:26:55.690 --> 00:26:56.970 Dario Alvarez: for a moment 276 00:26:57.620 --> 00:27:00.350 Dario Alvarez: distinguish, try to make a distinguished 277 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:04.259 trying to distinguish between 278 00:27:04.290 --> 00:27:07.749 Dario Alvarez: what is technically referred to as interim housing. 279 00:27:07.810 --> 00:27:10.189 Dario Alvarez: That's perhaps more colloquially known as 280 00:27:10.270 --> 00:27:12.400 as shelters 281 00:27:12.890 --> 00:27:15.349 Dario Alvarez: and emergency permanent housing. 282 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.460 Dario Alvarez: So to be clear. Both of these that are on the screen 283 00:27:18.870 --> 00:27:23.749 Dario Alvarez: are emergency or forms of emergency housing, in the sense that they are 284 00:27:24.780 --> 00:27:28.759 Dario Alvarez: intended to be installed in a rapid way and at low cost. 285 00:27:30.280 --> 00:27:32.030 lauren siegel: Itarian. The. 286 00:27:32.080 --> 00:27:32.850 Yes. 287 00:27:33.290 --> 00:27:39.620 lauren siegel: I i'm sorry to interrupt, but i'm just trying to understand how the presentation that you're giving tonight is different from the previous 288 00:27:39.710 --> 00:27:43.720 lauren siegel: presentation. Maybe You can elaborate that before we get under way, please. 289 00:27:44.290 --> 00:27:45.190 Dario Alvarez: Sure. 290 00:27:45.270 --> 00:27:51.550 So I've presented the homeless off 3 Sanctuary Research initiative before, and the results of that. 291 00:27:51.620 --> 00:27:57.779 Dario Alvarez: And today we're revisiting that, and the results of the research are the same. 292 00:27:57.950 --> 00:28:13.460 Dario Alvarez: What i'm doing here is simplifying the the data that i'm presenting to be very specific about the site, selection criteria, which are shown here on the left on my screen, and I'll and i'll be very explicit about what those are. And then the the architectural program 293 00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:14.400 of each 294 00:28:14.450 --> 00:28:16.720 Dario Alvarez: type of site which is shown on the right. 295 00:28:16.830 --> 00:28:21.140 Dario Alvarez: so that folks can gain an understanding of what 296 00:28:21.170 --> 00:28:24.379 has gone into selecting the sites 297 00:28:24.500 --> 00:28:29.009 Dario Alvarez: or or eliminating sites that Don't meet these criteria and know what 298 00:28:29.740 --> 00:28:32.750 Dario Alvarez: the spatial requirements are, are 299 00:28:32.940 --> 00:28:35.190 Dario Alvarez: are included in each of the sites. 300 00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:37.130 Dario Alvarez: which was 301 00:28:37.220 --> 00:28:41.230 Dario Alvarez: perhaps a topic of much discussion in the Q. And a. Of last presentation. 302 00:28:42.710 --> 00:28:45.939 and I will revisit the 303 00:28:46.040 --> 00:28:53.419 Dario Alvarez: publicly available results of the site of the research on our website show folks how they can 304 00:28:54.900 --> 00:28:56.330 Dario Alvarez: explore those results 305 00:28:56.370 --> 00:28:57.450 Dario Alvarez: for themselves. 306 00:28:57.560 --> 00:29:03.099 Dario Alvarez: and take any questions that that folks need to probe into more deeply. 307 00:29:07.560 --> 00:29:09.610 Dario Alvarez: That answer your question, Lauren. 308 00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:15.380 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Hmm. 309 00:29:17.560 --> 00:29:21.009 Dario Alvarez: All right. I'm going to take the assignments as as I as a Yes. 310 00:29:21.340 --> 00:29:23.500 Dario Alvarez: and so 311 00:29:23.690 --> 00:29:27.630 Michael Jensen: well, Dari. I I think I think Lauren's point is, can I just jump in here? 312 00:29:28.130 --> 00:29:29.180 Yes. 313 00:29:29.210 --> 00:29:32.329 Michael Jensen: the the last time we had what 314 00:29:32.450 --> 00:29:35.539 Michael Jensen: sounding like the same kind of discussion. But I think 315 00:29:35.950 --> 00:29:39.509 Michael Jensen: what most people took away from the conversation 316 00:29:39.650 --> 00:29:40.820 Michael Jensen: was that 317 00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:44.880 Michael Jensen: we were looking for only places here 318 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:47.339 Michael Jensen: in in within Venice 319 00:29:47.600 --> 00:29:53.200 Michael Jensen: to identify for these uses versus looking at a sort of broader idea of what 320 00:29:53.510 --> 00:29:56.039 Michael Jensen: this plan entailed 321 00:29:56.940 --> 00:29:58.740 Michael Jensen: in the entire city. 322 00:29:59.630 --> 00:30:03.040 Michael Jensen: But it sounds like an and that's why I sort of opened with the comment 323 00:30:03.310 --> 00:30:11.880 Michael Jensen: that you know. The the end result of this is this conversation, and an eventual motion is not necessarily that we're going to identify 324 00:30:12.020 --> 00:30:14.820 Michael Jensen: all of these places within Venice where we are 325 00:30:15.430 --> 00:30:17.530 Michael Jensen: thinking. These sites work. 326 00:30:23.500 --> 00:30:25.249 Dario Alvarez: I understand. 327 00:30:25.270 --> 00:30:32.130 frank murphy: as I understand it's not specific to Venice, and what Dario is presenting is 328 00:30:32.210 --> 00:30:34.570 frank murphy: a district 11 wide. 329 00:30:35.170 --> 00:30:41.770 frank murphy: and also city-wide, but and and an explanation of how this works. 330 00:30:41.940 --> 00:30:45.260 frank murphy: and how and how they selected the sites 331 00:30:45.750 --> 00:30:50.180 frank murphy: because the mayor is using the same criterion, and 332 00:30:50.230 --> 00:30:54.259 frank murphy: and Tracy is also using criterion to select sites. 333 00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:57.430 Hmm. 334 00:30:57.650 --> 00:31:01.660 PatRaphael: I don't want to speak for Jody, but I thought the whole point was today to 335 00:31:01.860 --> 00:31:05.210 PatRaphael: narrow down where we could like, have a site, visit 336 00:31:05.340 --> 00:31:08.080 PatRaphael: and go in person and see where we could 337 00:31:08.370 --> 00:31:09.700 PatRaphael: start thinking about 338 00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:13.930 PatRaphael: a place to choose. So it's that was not my intent. 339 00:31:15.470 --> 00:31:18.720 Jody Mortimer: Yeah, I I agree. I I okay. 340 00:31:19.770 --> 00:31:20.490 Yeah. 341 00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:26.040 frank murphy: I mean that's available because the addresses and locations are available. But that's 342 00:31:26.120 --> 00:31:28.270 frank murphy: but that was not the 343 00:31:29.970 --> 00:31:30.980 frank murphy: in 10. 344 00:31:35.120 --> 00:31:42.459 frank murphy: Well, let's let Dario present, and and maybe he'll answer a lot of those questions as we as he goes through it. 345 00:31:45.420 --> 00:31:51.590 PatRaphael: So no field. 346 00:31:52.970 --> 00:31:54.419 Jody Mortimer: I want a field trip. 347 00:31:54.730 --> 00:31:58.020 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Okay, we're digressing. 348 00:31:59.570 --> 00:32:07.070 Dario Alvarez: So so i'll be the same so that folks can see the resources that are available to you, and you can make use of them as you deem appropriate. 349 00:32:07.140 --> 00:32:11.089 First, I wanted to to make the disting the distinction between 350 00:32:11.190 --> 00:32:17.119 Dario Alvarez: what is technically referred to as interim housing, but will refer to as shelters in this 351 00:32:17.380 --> 00:32:19.239 Dario Alvarez: presentation, which is 352 00:32:19.390 --> 00:32:22.580 of the type of safe sleeping sites and other 353 00:32:22.620 --> 00:32:25.860 Dario Alvarez: similar types and emergency permanent housing 354 00:32:26.570 --> 00:32:28.370 Dario Alvarez: that's shown here on screen 355 00:32:28.940 --> 00:32:31.709 the the the 356 00:32:32.390 --> 00:32:35.560 Dario Alvarez: homeless on Street Sanctuary Research initiative 357 00:32:36.110 --> 00:32:37.290 Dario Alvarez: went through 358 00:32:38.060 --> 00:32:39.050 Dario Alvarez: process 359 00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:41.180 Dario Alvarez: using spatial analysis. 360 00:32:42.620 --> 00:32:45.969 Dario Alvarez: Esri's Arc G. I. S. Software 361 00:32:47.100 --> 00:32:50.190 Dario Alvarez: and gathered publicly available data 362 00:32:50.820 --> 00:32:53.990 Dario Alvarez: to identify all of the government-owned parcels. 363 00:32:54.330 --> 00:32:58.960 Dario Alvarez: parking lots, public facilities, and open space in Los Angeles County. 364 00:32:59.960 --> 00:33:01.580 Dario Alvarez: then excluded 365 00:33:01.690 --> 00:33:05.369 Dario Alvarez: portions of those parcels that were not feasible or suitable. 366 00:33:05.460 --> 00:33:06.840 Even consider 367 00:33:08.260 --> 00:33:09.250 Dario Alvarez: housing. 368 00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:11.569 Dario Alvarez: and that includes building footprints. 369 00:33:11.610 --> 00:33:14.430 Any slopes that are greater than what's 370 00:33:14.500 --> 00:33:18.870 deemed relatively level in the baseline hillside ordinance, which is 15% slope. 371 00:33:19.150 --> 00:33:20.969 Dario Alvarez: airport noise contours. 372 00:33:21.140 --> 00:33:23.039 Dario Alvarez: environmentally sensitive areas. 373 00:33:23.590 --> 00:33:26.560 Dario Alvarez: 600 foot buffer around the schools. 374 00:33:26.900 --> 00:33:30.820 Dario Alvarez: parks, and beaches. None of those areas are included in 375 00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.150 Dario Alvarez: portions of and parcels 376 00:33:33.280 --> 00:33:36.759 that our Government owned parking lots, public facilities, and open space. 377 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:41.450 Dario Alvarez: Secondly, based on a report that 378 00:33:41.820 --> 00:33:45.120 Dario Alvarez: the City Administrator's office provided to 379 00:33:45.250 --> 00:33:48.470 previous administration of Council District 11 380 00:33:49.210 --> 00:33:54.880 Dario Alvarez: with specific criteria that made sites more or less feasible for the same use. 381 00:33:55.360 --> 00:33:56.390 Dario Alvarez: We ranked 382 00:33:56.540 --> 00:34:00.469 Dario Alvarez: the remaining sites in relation to their proximity to fire hydrants 383 00:34:00.980 --> 00:34:02.250 Dario Alvarez: who were connections. 384 00:34:04.100 --> 00:34:05.530 Dario Alvarez: affordability. 385 00:34:05.870 --> 00:34:08.949 Dario Alvarez: the the current density of UN sheltered individuals 386 00:34:09.530 --> 00:34:10.959 Dario Alvarez: and the site area. 387 00:34:12.090 --> 00:34:15.270 Dario Alvarez: There are additional sites or additional opportunities 388 00:34:15.330 --> 00:34:16.699 Dario Alvarez: identified in the 389 00:34:17.050 --> 00:34:18.330 Dario Alvarez: research initiative. 390 00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:22.760 Dario Alvarez: which includes privately owned land that has similar characteristics 391 00:34:23.040 --> 00:34:25.889 Dario Alvarez: and parking lots of faith-based organizations. 392 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:29.200 Dario Alvarez: Those are sort of a second tier of options. 393 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:33.650 Dario Alvarez: but still suitable, potentially suitable to be considered 394 00:34:35.790 --> 00:34:39.189 Dario Alvarez: the main distinction in terms of 395 00:34:40.350 --> 00:34:46.290 Dario Alvarez: criteria. Considering we are selecting sites that can accommodate no less than 30 people. 396 00:34:46.540 --> 00:34:47.449 Dario Alvarez: Yeah. 397 00:34:47.770 --> 00:34:50.239 Dario Alvarez: Emergency Permanent housing sites 398 00:34:50.330 --> 00:34:53.949 requires 650 square feet of site, area 399 00:34:54.340 --> 00:34:55.479 Dario Alvarez: number of beds. 400 00:34:57.460 --> 00:35:00.650 Dario Alvarez: When we performed this study for the city, which is 401 00:35:00.780 --> 00:35:02.799 Dario Alvarez: separate study, but a similar 402 00:35:03.370 --> 00:35:04.250 Dario Alvarez: inquiry. 403 00:35:04.550 --> 00:35:08.849 Dario Alvarez: We were asked to identify sites that were near known encampments. 404 00:35:09.500 --> 00:35:12.190 Dario Alvarez: to select them geographically dispersed throughout the city. 405 00:35:12.720 --> 00:35:13.750 Dario Alvarez: and 406 00:35:14.540 --> 00:35:18.370 Dario Alvarez: 650 square feet times 30 individuals or 30 beds 407 00:35:18.830 --> 00:35:23.069 Dario Alvarez: requires that sites be no less than 19,500 square feet. 408 00:35:23.570 --> 00:35:27.079 Dario Alvarez: whereas temporary shelters or interim housing 409 00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:30.940 Dario Alvarez: require 400 square feet of site, area per bed. 410 00:35:31.390 --> 00:35:36.230 Dario Alvarez: and at 30 beds a minimum site area of 12,000 square feet. 411 00:35:38.820 --> 00:35:40.740 Dario Alvarez: All of these 412 00:35:41.270 --> 00:35:44.159 Dario Alvarez: criteria have been published before in our 413 00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.109 Dario Alvarez: articles of those same research projects. 414 00:35:49.250 --> 00:35:52.289 Dario Alvarez: and will be made available as 415 00:35:52.820 --> 00:35:55.139 Dario Alvarez: attachments to to this meeting. 416 00:35:55.320 --> 00:36:01.390 and folks will be able to click on this link and go to what is currently published on our web page. 417 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:03.609 Dario Alvarez: which i'll go to. Now. 418 00:36:03.990 --> 00:36:06.250 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: may I ask a question? 419 00:36:08.270 --> 00:36:12.130 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Who determined those square footages. Did you do it? Area? 420 00:36:12.970 --> 00:36:18.619 Dario Alvarez: Yes, we did, based on precedent studies of both of the types of 421 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:33.180 Dario Alvarez: and for folks who are just getting to know the work, our work for the first time. I'm. A licensed architect. And this research, this type of research we've been doing in Los Angeles for 422 00:36:33.300 --> 00:36:34.289 just about 10 years now. 423 00:36:35.590 --> 00:36:40.239 Dario Alvarez: so based on precedence, both local and national. 424 00:36:40.430 --> 00:36:43.379 Dario Alvarez: The the cycles here are determined. 425 00:36:43.640 --> 00:36:53.799 Dario Alvarez: and as if if folks are familiar with the project in the on the right side. That's the the Vignet Street, or also known as the Hilda Felice Project. 426 00:36:54.340 --> 00:36:57.480 Dario Alvarez: and on the left is the Lincoln theatre 427 00:36:58.200 --> 00:36:58.930 Dario Alvarez: space. 428 00:36:59.210 --> 00:37:11.499 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: So these are all for new constructions, new spaces. It's not like encompassing existing buildings that are empty anywhere that you can use. Right? 429 00:37:11.640 --> 00:37:13.849 Dario Alvarez: That's that's correct. This research 430 00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:23.950 Dario Alvarez: project has not looked at the conversion of of buildings, of derelict buildings, or underutilized buildings, or underutilized motels or hotels 431 00:37:24.160 --> 00:37:30.510 Dario Alvarez: That's a separate study. This is looking at underutilized land, at vacant land, at at open space 432 00:37:31.460 --> 00:37:33.169 placement of 433 00:37:33.240 --> 00:37:35.810 Dario Alvarez: either temporary shelters or permanent housing. 434 00:37:36.270 --> 00:37:37.140 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Thank you. 435 00:37:38.260 --> 00:37:41.189 Dario Alvarez: You're welcome. So when folks visit 436 00:37:41.210 --> 00:37:45.279 the map on the web page. You'll see all of Council District 11, 437 00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:50.650 Dario Alvarez: and you'll notice that you can filter by a number of 438 00:37:51.190 --> 00:37:58.730 Dario Alvarez: criteria. A community plan area is one of them. So if folks want to look at just Venice, you can do so, and 439 00:37:59.610 --> 00:38:02.609 Dario Alvarez: there are group filters that you can 440 00:38:04.170 --> 00:38:05.509 Dario Alvarez: cumulatively 441 00:38:05.610 --> 00:38:06.390 filter. 442 00:38:06.550 --> 00:38:09.140 Dario Alvarez: so you'll notice that 443 00:38:09.240 --> 00:38:10.670 there are 444 00:38:15.650 --> 00:38:17.630 Dario Alvarez: sites identified for 445 00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:20.849 Dario Alvarez: temporary housing, as well as sites for permanent housing. 446 00:38:21.110 --> 00:38:26.249 Dario Alvarez: I'll remind you that sites for permanent housing are no less than 19,500 square feet. 447 00:38:26.270 --> 00:38:28.530 as sites for temporary housing 448 00:38:28.650 --> 00:38:34.309 Dario Alvarez: are no less than 12,000 square feet, and it is true that any site that is 449 00:38:34.980 --> 00:38:39.949 Dario Alvarez: feasible in terms of its size, for permanent housing is also feasible for temporary housing. 450 00:38:40.870 --> 00:38:42.810 Dario Alvarez: Our existing encampments 451 00:38:43.010 --> 00:38:51.560 Dario Alvarez: currently, and those are identified with dots of proportional size to their to the individuals who have been counted at those sites. 452 00:38:52.040 --> 00:38:56.929 Dario Alvarez: and the color coding in the census tracts is the 453 00:38:56.990 --> 00:38:58.120 Dario Alvarez: homeless count 454 00:38:58.170 --> 00:38:59.629 Dario Alvarez: from Lhasa 455 00:38:59.860 --> 00:39:02.390 Dario Alvarez: reported in in the census tract. So 456 00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:03.319 you can 457 00:39:03.370 --> 00:39:05.299 navigate this 458 00:39:06.910 --> 00:39:09.640 Dario Alvarez: you wish, and every site has 459 00:39:10.640 --> 00:39:12.930 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: data associated with it which 460 00:39:12.970 --> 00:39:15.019 will show up when you click on the site. 461 00:39:16.060 --> 00:39:17.169 Dario Alvarez: for 462 00:39:17.240 --> 00:39:18.750 if you click on 463 00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:21.330 Dario Alvarez: the on the table here, if you want to go to 464 00:39:23.430 --> 00:39:30.620 Dario Alvarez: so once again, this is available for folks to use as you as you're doing, appropriate for purposes of this meeting. 465 00:39:30.650 --> 00:39:33.390 Dario Alvarez: I will use our 466 00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.890 Dario Alvarez: internal file in Google Earth. 467 00:39:37.200 --> 00:39:37.990 but 468 00:39:38.010 --> 00:39:40.770 Dario Alvarez: which gives a little bit more of a of an urban context. 469 00:39:41.550 --> 00:39:43.370 Dario Alvarez: In in 3D. 470 00:39:43.870 --> 00:39:46.770 I have organized these sites 471 00:39:46.790 --> 00:39:50.149 Dario Alvarez: a little differently from the last presentation to have a suffix 472 00:39:51.240 --> 00:39:56.439 Dario Alvarez: according to the community plan area. So folks are interested in going directly to Venice. 473 00:39:57.090 --> 00:40:03.580 Dario Alvarez: I'll count them out and indicate there are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 8 sites. 474 00:40:03.780 --> 00:40:09.339 Dario Alvarez: and we know from the previous conversation that some of these sites are being utilized, currently utilized 475 00:40:09.450 --> 00:40:12.049 with existing programs, or have 476 00:40:12.170 --> 00:40:14.579 Dario Alvarez: an approved program at them 477 00:40:15.090 --> 00:40:22.499 Dario Alvarez: for feature use. So one obvious one, or one that folks know well is the Pacific Dell site which has. 478 00:40:23.020 --> 00:40:24.170 or program that 479 00:40:24.250 --> 00:40:26.279 for permanent supportive housing 480 00:40:26.350 --> 00:40:27.769 Dario Alvarez: that will be built in the future. 481 00:40:28.340 --> 00:40:32.599 Dario Alvarez: so that this site has been identified in our research, and 482 00:40:34.550 --> 00:40:36.419 Dario Alvarez: is suitable for 483 00:40:36.560 --> 00:40:41.859 Dario Alvarez: temporary housing in in the interim between now and when the site goes under construction. 484 00:40:48.510 --> 00:40:56.590 Dario Alvarez: Another site that was identified. By the way. When these sites are identified, they're we're we're identifying these sites at the county white scale. 485 00:40:56.670 --> 00:41:00.929 So note that when sites have been identified that have an existing program in them. 486 00:41:01.120 --> 00:41:07.390 Dario Alvarez: it's evidence that the the rubric that we're using, and the spatial analysis is 487 00:41:08.710 --> 00:41:17.390 Dario Alvarez: matching up with reality. In other words, the sites that are being identified in the spatial analysis are some of these are actually currently used for programs. 488 00:41:23.100 --> 00:41:26.029 Dario Alvarez: Another portion of the same Pacific dell site 489 00:41:26.230 --> 00:41:27.830 Dario Alvarez: area around. 490 00:41:30.060 --> 00:41:31.800 Dario Alvarez: like commercial holdings 491 00:41:40.510 --> 00:41:41.910 Dario Alvarez: like least of Venice. 492 00:41:42.310 --> 00:41:43.799 Dario Alvarez: like city facility 493 00:41:44.260 --> 00:41:45.809 Dario Alvarez: east of Lincoln. 494 00:41:59.830 --> 00:42:01.790 Dario Alvarez: and a skills center parking lot 495 00:42:08.830 --> 00:42:09.430 site 496 00:42:09.510 --> 00:42:12.140 owned by Lincoln 4, one Llc. 497 00:42:15.130 --> 00:42:16.759 Dario Alvarez: Open land at the moment. 498 00:42:16.950 --> 00:42:18.169 Dario Alvarez: So 499 00:42:18.380 --> 00:42:20.229 Dario Alvarez: if anyone is interested in 500 00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.600 and exploring other sites in Council District 11. 501 00:42:27.150 --> 00:42:31.290 Dario Alvarez: Those sites are are included here because I've heard from some of the folks 502 00:42:31.740 --> 00:42:36.139 Dario Alvarez: on on the on the committees. You're really interested in in focusing 503 00:42:36.370 --> 00:42:37.600 Dario Alvarez: solely on Venice. 504 00:42:41.430 --> 00:42:43.219 Dario Alvarez: And well, if folks are interested in 505 00:42:43.710 --> 00:42:46.849 Dario Alvarez: exploring other community plan areas that's available to you. 506 00:42:48.040 --> 00:42:52.640 Dario Alvarez: So, as I mentioned, i'd be succinct in presenting the data. 507 00:42:53.060 --> 00:42:55.259 Dario Alvarez: the criteria that were used 508 00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:56.350 of housing. 509 00:42:56.680 --> 00:43:00.179 Dario Alvarez: And if you'd like, I will address any questions that you. 510 00:43:00.230 --> 00:43:00.799 I have 511 00:43:02.720 --> 00:43:10.370 frank murphy: real quick, Dario, the sites that you've spelled out are all sites for District 11 512 00:43:11.890 --> 00:43:19.099 frank murphy: that you were scrolling through there, and you also have the sites for the rest of the city. Is that correct? 513 00:43:20.220 --> 00:43:26.530 frank murphy: True, the rest of the city. And, as a matter of fact, the rest of the county in the rest of the county of Los Angeles. Okay. 514 00:43:29.200 --> 00:43:30.149 frank murphy: So 515 00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:34.129 frank murphy: all right. 516 00:43:34.310 --> 00:43:35.379 frank murphy: That's good. 517 00:43:37.010 --> 00:43:38.279 frank murphy: Anybody else. 518 00:43:39.850 --> 00:43:40.779 frank murphy: Speak up. 519 00:43:41.300 --> 00:43:44.799 frank murphy: Jim. You got your hand up. I don't know if that was a 520 00:43:46.940 --> 00:43:49.320 jim murez: Are you call? Are you calling on people now? 521 00:43:50.190 --> 00:43:55.360 frank murphy: Well, we're yeah, yeah, Dario, Did you wrap up? 522 00:43:56.050 --> 00:44:00.330 Dario Alvarez: Yeah, i'm that that that concludes my presentation, and i'm happy to take any questions. 523 00:44:00.980 --> 00:44:04.670 jim murez: So it's it, Frank. It's my understanding. I don't know 524 00:44:04.750 --> 00:44:13.140 jim murez: if if it's your understanding to say I don't know who's actually conducting the the meeting. So i'm not sure who's calling on me. But i'll go with you at this point. 525 00:44:13.500 --> 00:44:17.549 jim murez: It's my understanding that that there's approximately 60,000 people 526 00:44:18.780 --> 00:44:20.130 jim murez: that are currently 527 00:44:20.330 --> 00:44:24.250 jim murez: designated as as homeless in the city of Los Angeles. 528 00:44:24.340 --> 00:44:25.490 jim murez: and that 529 00:44:25.570 --> 00:44:28.389 jim murez: to to meet the carter. 530 00:44:28.550 --> 00:44:31.569 jim murez: Judge Carter's requirements. 531 00:44:31.650 --> 00:44:33.929 jim murez: If we take that as a first step 532 00:44:34.160 --> 00:44:38.290 jim murez: that if if we were to take 60 of the 60,000 533 00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:47.590 jim murez: that would give us a target number of how many people actually have to be housed and just using his population map of the entire city and county. 534 00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:58.210 jim murez: What percentage of that would fall into the designated spaces within Venice, because it seems to me that there must be thousands of spaces in the city and the county. 535 00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:00.419 jim murez: and if if we were to 536 00:45:00.830 --> 00:45:05.389 jim murez: spread out the numbers evenly by the amount of square footage in each community 537 00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:11.279 jim murez: that would start to give us an idea of how many people we actually have to even consider 538 00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:17.790 jim murez: on the sites that are within Venice. And and and, by the way, when we're going through the sites in Venice. 539 00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:20.840 jim murez: Daryo talks as though 540 00:45:20.870 --> 00:45:30.970 jim murez: these are done. The 7 or 8 sites that he described are a done deal. One of them was the Thatcher Yard property. I believe that's already under contract with a developer. 541 00:45:31.170 --> 00:45:39.229 jim murez: One of them that he was calling a maintenance yard, and and called it out as east of Lincoln. It's actually 542 00:45:39.270 --> 00:45:41.040 jim murez: east of Abbott Kenny. 543 00:45:41.110 --> 00:45:43.820 jim murez: and it's the city's maintenance yard for 544 00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:54.869 jim murez: our entire community, where they have equipment going in and out constantly. I'm just wondering if if if the Coastal Commission would even approve that, and if they would. 545 00:45:55.100 --> 00:45:57.850 jim murez: Is that something that the city would consider? 546 00:45:57.870 --> 00:46:07.540 jim murez: I mean clearly. It's in an industrial area. There's no immediate of budding houses, but it it is the it's a very highly used yard. 547 00:46:07.710 --> 00:46:11.379 jim murez: Several of the other sites were were, you know. 548 00:46:11.700 --> 00:46:15.970 jim murez: equally. One of them was on Windward Circle. It's owned by a private 549 00:46:16.540 --> 00:46:20.570 jim murez: company that's redoing the the post office there. 550 00:46:20.590 --> 00:46:23.469 jim murez: I don't know exactly how 551 00:46:23.810 --> 00:46:26.370 jim murez: this data is being looked at, but 552 00:46:26.470 --> 00:46:32.999 jim murez: you know the the the the Mta site. The Mta has a responsibility to a long-term construction project there. 553 00:46:33.180 --> 00:46:36.410 jim murez: and that is supposed to include a portable housing. But 554 00:46:36.490 --> 00:46:41.039 jim murez: clearly the the use that there now is prohibiting that from going forward. 555 00:46:41.290 --> 00:46:53.830 jim murez: I'm. Just. You know. I want to try and understand where what we're coming, where we're coming from, and where we're going to with this because this sounds to me a lot like the same meeting we had a couple of weeks ago where it was a 556 00:46:54.150 --> 00:46:59.610 jim murez: Here's a whole bunch of stuff we can do in Venice, and it didn't really take into account the whole picture. 557 00:47:00.820 --> 00:47:01.669 jim murez: Thank you. 558 00:47:02.200 --> 00:47:03.620 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Good Point. 559 00:47:03.690 --> 00:47:07.770 Dario Alvarez: Should I respond now, or should I wait for all the comments? 560 00:47:08.870 --> 00:47:09.910 frank murphy: It's fine 561 00:47:10.210 --> 00:47:21.980 jim murez: I I would. My comments, Frank, were not directed at him. They were directed at the 2 chairs and the 2 committees that are holding this meeting. He's just a presenter. As far as I can tell, he's not part of either committee. 562 00:47:22.700 --> 00:47:24.850 frank murphy: Thanks, Jim. 563 00:47:25.420 --> 00:47:29.490 frank murphy: What I was what I would. 564 00:47:30.520 --> 00:47:32.289 frank murphy: This was never. 565 00:47:32.450 --> 00:47:39.500 frank murphy: This was not solely specific, though we're dealing with Venice. It's not solely specific 566 00:47:39.620 --> 00:47:54.310 frank murphy: to Venice. What we're trying to do is show how many sites are available. There's gonna be all kinds of sites that are going to pop up that are already being utilized or presented to be utilized in various other ways. 567 00:47:54.740 --> 00:48:03.100 frank murphy: The point is that there are so many. Anyhow, Dario, if you could talk to the ability to house and etc., etc. 568 00:48:03.200 --> 00:48:06.890 frank murphy: You've already discussed that with me at times. 569 00:48:07.620 --> 00:48:14.909 Dario Alvarez: Sure. Well, you know, I I'd like to, maybe just respond to a to one or 2 of the points that that Jim makes. 570 00:48:15.580 --> 00:48:19.040 Jim mentioned 60,000 homeless in the city. 571 00:48:20.020 --> 00:48:28.980 Dario Alvarez: I don't believe that's accurate that I believe that's the number for the county. But in in any case there's a a distinction to be made between 572 00:48:29.560 --> 00:48:32.509 Dario Alvarez: the the total population and the unsheltered population. 573 00:48:33.060 --> 00:48:40.989 so I don't believe the Judge Carter ruling required any additional housing to be provided for the currently shelter population. 574 00:48:41.050 --> 00:48:43.370 Dario Alvarez: It's more a question of the UN sheltered population 575 00:48:43.820 --> 00:48:47.569 Dario Alvarez: without the numbers in front of me. I believe it's closer to 28,000 in the city. 576 00:48:47.820 --> 00:48:51.019 Dario Alvarez: But but regardless of that. 577 00:48:51.100 --> 00:48:52.690 Dario Alvarez: i'm. I'm certainly not 578 00:48:53.190 --> 00:48:56.430 Dario Alvarez: any of the sites that have been identified 579 00:48:56.580 --> 00:49:01.039 Dario Alvarez: the entire research project as a done deal. As a matter of fact, it's. I think it's 580 00:49:01.730 --> 00:49:08.419 Dario Alvarez: it's the intent to communicate that with the title. This is potential land. This is lamb that the community can consider. 581 00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:11.219 It's certainly not a done deal. 582 00:49:11.450 --> 00:49:12.470 Dario Alvarez: And 583 00:49:12.640 --> 00:49:17.149 you know, I think I was clear about those sites that have a current use 584 00:49:17.750 --> 00:49:22.239 Dario Alvarez: that speaks to the the reliability of of the research 585 00:49:22.380 --> 00:49:27.510 Dario Alvarez: that has identified sites that have been identified by others, and are and have been approved by others 586 00:49:27.730 --> 00:49:28.799 Dario Alvarez: for use. 587 00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:31.670 Dario Alvarez: Erm I it it does 588 00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:33.999 Dario Alvarez: as a researcher. I 589 00:49:36.410 --> 00:49:39.349 Dario Alvarez: I try to read between the lines of the qualitative data 590 00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:42.620 that that we receive from from folks public comments. 591 00:49:43.040 --> 00:49:46.019 Dario Alvarez: and what what seems to be underlying 592 00:49:46.650 --> 00:49:48.600 Dario Alvarez: Jim's comments. And in Jim you can. 593 00:49:49.300 --> 00:49:50.550 Dario Alvarez: Me, if i'm wrong. 594 00:49:50.660 --> 00:49:55.540 Dario Alvarez: is something that seems to be similar, a similar sentiment 595 00:49:56.020 --> 00:49:58.160 Dario Alvarez: helped by others in Venice, which is 596 00:49:58.570 --> 00:50:00.339 Dario Alvarez: that Venice Shouldn't 597 00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:03.459 supply any sites. The sites should be supplied elsewhere. 598 00:50:03.570 --> 00:50:10.260 Dario Alvarez: Yes, but then it has enough of a population, and therefore that sites should be supplied elsewhere. I'm not providing an opinion on that 599 00:50:10.700 --> 00:50:18.850 Dario Alvarez: currently. But I will say that in in identifying sites outside of Venice, but within Council District 11 600 00:50:19.030 --> 00:50:22.490 Dario Alvarez: there can be discussion within the district 601 00:50:22.600 --> 00:50:25.360 Dario Alvarez: of what sites are more or less suitable. 602 00:50:25.930 --> 00:50:30.209 Dario Alvarez: and if the Venice community deemed that no sites in Venice should be used 603 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:32.250 Dario Alvarez: for any reason whatsoever. 604 00:50:32.630 --> 00:50:36.559 Dario Alvarez: at least this research initiative is providing alternatives 605 00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:40.839 Dario Alvarez: rather than simply saying, No, none at all. It can be. 606 00:50:41.200 --> 00:50:44.829 perhaps no, none here. But consider these elsewhere 607 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:47.769 Dario Alvarez: for a more constructive conversation. 608 00:50:48.620 --> 00:50:49.410 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Hmm. 609 00:50:49.490 --> 00:50:59.939 Dario Alvarez: And so, frank, I. The specific question that you were asking was was to speak to the ability to to house folks. Can you maybe restate your question in a different way, and i'd be happy to 610 00:51:00.040 --> 00:51:00.910 address it. 611 00:51:01.720 --> 00:51:07.020 frank murphy: Well, you have so many sites, so many acres of sites 612 00:51:07.300 --> 00:51:12.300 frank murphy: that can do either, or of 2 different types. 613 00:51:12.330 --> 00:51:14.240 frank murphy: which is the 614 00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:18.229 frank murphy: emergency shelter and emergency interim housing. 615 00:51:18.520 --> 00:51:20.740 frank murphy: and those sites 616 00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:31.830 frank murphy: can house a certain number of people city wide, and as I understood the number for this, L. A. County is far in excess of 617 00:51:32.070 --> 00:51:37.990 frank murphy: 60,000 people. It's up in the it. It's quite a bit higher. 618 00:51:38.220 --> 00:51:38.910 Hmm. 619 00:51:39.350 --> 00:51:44.440 frank murphy: And I think that you had calculated that from what I understood 620 00:51:45.130 --> 00:51:52.549 Dario Alvarez: That's that's true. And those calculations I don't have in front of me, though they have been published in in some of our previous articles. 621 00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:58.909 Dario Alvarez: The the the bottom line is that in terms of government owned land. 622 00:51:59.080 --> 00:51:59.939 that. 623 00:51:59.960 --> 00:52:04.579 Dario Alvarez: using the rubric that I described that was on the left side of the screen before 624 00:52:05.310 --> 00:52:08.790 Dario Alvarez: there is more than enough land 625 00:52:09.720 --> 00:52:14.429 Dario Alvarez: for each community to take the unsheltered population inside and off of the streets. 626 00:52:15.720 --> 00:52:17.160 Dario Alvarez: So 627 00:52:17.530 --> 00:52:23.880 Michael Jensen: that's I think the underlying question here is is our communities like Venice getting credit 628 00:52:24.100 --> 00:52:26.580 Michael Jensen: for what has already been 629 00:52:26.860 --> 00:52:28.250 Michael Jensen: allocated here? 630 00:52:28.560 --> 00:52:29.379 Brian U: No? 631 00:52:31.850 --> 00:52:37.120 frank murphy: Well, i'm. I'm thinking that they that the not to. 632 00:52:37.530 --> 00:52:47.329 frank murphy: Sorry. Sorry. Go ahead. I'm sure. Well, you know, i'll say one. This research project is, you know, that question is outside of the scope of this 633 00:52:47.970 --> 00:52:50.409 Dario Alvarez: research project, which is to identify 634 00:52:50.530 --> 00:52:52.250 Dario Alvarez: potentially suitable land. 635 00:52:52.450 --> 00:52:58.290 Dario Alvarez: The the question of how the sites will be distributed among the city is up to the decision makers. 636 00:52:58.620 --> 00:53:04.090 Michael Jensen: That's what we're the we're not the decision makers, but we advise. 637 00:53:04.620 --> 00:53:09.770 Michael Jensen: and so I I think ultimately the question boils down to You've created a methodology. 638 00:53:10.040 --> 00:53:13.500 Michael Jensen: And if we employ that methodology and and 639 00:53:13.720 --> 00:53:20.419 Michael Jensen: and you know, identify all these sites and say like we should use these places to do this. 640 00:53:21.310 --> 00:53:23.419 Michael Jensen: do we in that process 641 00:53:23.580 --> 00:53:25.670 Michael Jensen: get credit so like. 642 00:53:25.890 --> 00:53:31.969 Michael Jensen: Yes, I understand your methodology. Everybody starts off at 0, but the reality is 643 00:53:32.020 --> 00:53:33.659 Michael Jensen: that we have had. 644 00:53:33.740 --> 00:53:36.850 Michael Jensen: you know, years, and I mean decades, really of 645 00:53:36.980 --> 00:53:38.509 Michael Jensen: of creating 646 00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:42.109 Michael Jensen: various forms of supportive housing. 647 00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:43.609 Michael Jensen: And 648 00:53:43.900 --> 00:53:53.789 Michael Jensen: are you saying everybody? Start your methodology ignores all that, and just says everybody starts off with 0, and we're going to equally distribute it. But that sort of sounds more to me like 649 00:53:55.120 --> 00:53:58.470 Michael Jensen: the containment policies that have sort of 650 00:53:58.520 --> 00:54:01.240 Michael Jensen: rob a lot of people live in Venice the wrong way. 651 00:54:02.160 --> 00:54:02.759 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Hmm. 652 00:54:03.790 --> 00:54:10.190 jim murez: I I would also like to add to that, Mikkel, if I may. Because, Daria, you you reference something that I think 653 00:54:10.690 --> 00:54:17.679 jim murez: you you really need to stop and consider before you continue with this presentation about how the sites are available. 654 00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:25.929 jim murez: The site that you're referring to it at Dell and and Venice Boulevard, the one at Pacific. That lot of people call them monster on the Median 655 00:54:26.150 --> 00:54:31.339 jim murez: part of the reason that that project is not going through at this point is because 656 00:54:31.370 --> 00:54:33.439 jim murez: no one's identified that 657 00:54:33.490 --> 00:54:36.279 jim murez: funding to build the parking structure. 658 00:54:36.330 --> 00:54:38.849 jim murez: Now, the reason that I bring that up 659 00:54:39.060 --> 00:54:44.649 jim murez: and and forget about that. The Coastal Commission wants a year to review the project that's being proposed there. 660 00:54:45.460 --> 00:54:53.339 jim murez: The Coastal Commission has made it very clear on all projects from in Venice for the last 45 years. 661 00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:56.630 jim murez: that public access is their number one concern. 662 00:54:56.880 --> 00:55:00.559 jim murez: and and that parking lot is considered the only 663 00:55:00.860 --> 00:55:10.519 jim murez: beach parking lotter one of the one of the only beach parking lots in Venice. So if your data is correct that it's an available site. 664 00:55:10.830 --> 00:55:23.539 jim murez: We have to stop and ask the question available. To whom and how much work is it going to take to be able to take away public access to the beach, because then we might as well take all the beach parking lots and consider them as well. 665 00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:27.119 jim murez: Then we have a lot more parking lots that we could use. 666 00:55:27.650 --> 00:55:31.109 jim murez: So i'm just really questioning the methodology 667 00:55:31.210 --> 00:55:40.109 jim murez: that you're identifying parcels in Venice. I mean the Thatcher yard is clearly under contract. Are we going to take away the contract that already exists? 668 00:55:41.090 --> 00:55:41.899 Oh, that's good. 669 00:55:43.620 --> 00:55:50.869 Dario Alvarez: all right, so i'll i'll respond first. I'll respond to Mikhail's. So, Mikhail, your your question is an important one. 670 00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:56.670 and it speaks to a different research project. Your your your question gets to 671 00:55:56.770 --> 00:55:58.680 Dario Alvarez: what method would be used to do. 672 00:55:59.940 --> 00:56:05.240 Dario Alvarez: The unsheltered population into new sites that are provided in different communities. 673 00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:11.889 Dario Alvarez: And I'll. I'll speak very briefly to it, because it it is outside of the scope of this 674 00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:15.720 Dario Alvarez: project which is to identify potentially suitable land. 675 00:56:15.990 --> 00:56:19.740 Dario Alvarez: And I spoke to this question a little bit in 676 00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:21.100 and the previous presentation. 677 00:56:21.140 --> 00:56:23.439 Dario Alvarez: but it could be done a number of different ways 678 00:56:23.540 --> 00:56:25.659 Dario Alvarez: you mentioned. I believe. 679 00:56:25.930 --> 00:56:28.859 Dario Alvarez: per area. So in, or maybe Jim mentioned 680 00:56:29.230 --> 00:56:29.810 Dario Alvarez: in 681 00:56:29.930 --> 00:56:39.610 Dario Alvarez: and shares proportional to, the areas of either the community plan areas or the council districts. Another way would be per capita, either per capita of the 682 00:56:39.850 --> 00:56:42.809 Dario Alvarez: house population or per capita of the unhouse population. 683 00:56:43.600 --> 00:56:46.070 Dario Alvarez: But, Michael, I think what you're 684 00:56:46.230 --> 00:56:48.839 Dario Alvarez: speaking to in terms of taking into account 685 00:56:49.200 --> 00:56:53.549 Dario Alvarez: the current services provided by Venice, or the historical services provided by Venice 686 00:56:53.680 --> 00:56:54.879 Dario Alvarez: to 687 00:56:55.780 --> 00:56:59.300 Dario Alvarez: a the question of, of, of a more equitable distribution 688 00:57:00.140 --> 00:57:04.220 Dario Alvarez: of the of the beds or the sites that are provided by each community. 689 00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:09.759 Dario Alvarez: and and I believe it is true that those communities that have historically burdened 690 00:57:09.830 --> 00:57:11.240 greater share 691 00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:12.879 Dario Alvarez: of 692 00:57:13.030 --> 00:57:16.250 of sites and of services. For For 693 00:57:16.390 --> 00:57:17.700 Dario Alvarez: you know the less fortunate community 694 00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:19.610 members of our communities 695 00:57:19.690 --> 00:57:24.469 Dario Alvarez: that the equitable thing to do would be to give some form of credit for that. 696 00:57:24.540 --> 00:57:31.949 Dario Alvarez: And and we're able to do that using spatial analysis. It's it's really inherent in our housing Allocation Index, which looks at 697 00:57:32.380 --> 00:57:35.179 Dario Alvarez: zoning capacities. But it's 698 00:57:35.250 --> 00:57:36.310 similar 699 00:57:36.640 --> 00:57:38.729 Dario Alvarez: method of using 700 00:57:38.870 --> 00:57:40.419 a composite index 701 00:57:41.010 --> 00:57:45.690 Dario Alvarez: of of the of the values that the community determines ought to be used. 702 00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:54.629 Dario Alvarez: which I believe also segways into Jim's comment about public access and and the Coastal Commission's regulation of public access 703 00:57:55.030 --> 00:57:59.040 Dario Alvarez: and parking as as as a proxy for public access. 704 00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:04.120 Dario Alvarez: It's really up to the community. It's not. It's not my decision to make 705 00:58:04.980 --> 00:58:07.740 in terms of what the community values. 706 00:58:08.050 --> 00:58:16.800 Dario Alvarez: whether public access or parking as a proxy for public access, is more important than getting folks off of the street. 707 00:58:17.250 --> 00:58:22.729 Dario Alvarez: If If folks are asking my opinion, and and this research is not based on my opinion. It's it's the 708 00:58:23.050 --> 00:58:25.790 Dario Alvarez: objective results of empirical analysis. 709 00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:33.719 Dario Alvarez: I would value human life over parking at the beach. I would I would value getting folks an alternative to sleeping on the street 710 00:58:34.020 --> 00:58:37.419 over public access to the beach. But that's just me 711 00:58:37.540 --> 00:58:49.530 jim murez: and I really are you? Excuse me? Sorry, Jim, I thought I was still talking. You were, but you know what don't put words into my mouth. I didn't say it was my opinion. I'm saying that it's State law. 712 00:58:51.220 --> 00:58:54.700 Dario Alvarez: Yeah, so there's an there's an emergency 713 00:58:54.860 --> 00:58:56.809 there's an emergency 714 00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:05.619 Dario Alvarez: situation that's been called by multiple cities and and the county, and and i'm not putting words in your mouth. I'm. I'm sharing my my position on this. 715 00:59:05.700 --> 00:59:10.450 Dario Alvarez: It really is up to the community to define your values, and what you deem more important. 716 00:59:10.680 --> 00:59:15.490 Dario Alvarez: But it it is underlying your statement that Venice ought not to provide 717 00:59:15.610 --> 00:59:17.449 more services of this type. 718 00:59:17.590 --> 00:59:20.100 Dario Alvarez: that that it's really up to 719 00:59:20.190 --> 00:59:26.029 Dario Alvarez: the collective to to decide. And and so this this research project does serve 720 00:59:26.380 --> 00:59:28.240 Dario Alvarez: both your 721 00:59:28.270 --> 00:59:31.170 Dario Alvarez: position or or folks like yours, that 722 00:59:31.430 --> 00:59:36.469 Dario Alvarez: for any number of reasons, whether it's State law or just personal preference. 723 00:59:36.540 --> 00:59:42.339 would like to see sites placed elsewhere. This provides the alternatives, or or a number of 724 00:59:42.640 --> 00:59:44.289 of of 725 00:59:44.360 --> 00:59:45.970 potential sites. 726 00:59:46.220 --> 00:59:48.039 these discussions to occur. 727 00:59:48.100 --> 00:59:54.399 Dario Alvarez: And so that's all that i'm doing as a researchers providing sites that have been identified that are government-owned 728 00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:58.060 Dario Alvarez: parking lots, open space, relatively level 729 00:59:58.730 --> 01:00:02.729 Dario Alvarez: with a 600 foot buffer from schools, not parks and beaches. 730 01:00:02.940 --> 01:00:07.460 Dario Alvarez: and and that and that can be considered for immediate housing 731 01:00:07.550 --> 01:00:14.239 without without any utilities or infrastructure to accommodate. Certainly the temporary shelters 732 01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:16.460 Dario Alvarez: and and more 733 01:00:16.550 --> 01:00:24.359 Dario Alvarez: more significant utilities for permanent housing, but still at a rapid rate and and low cost per unit, which is really what 734 01:00:25.140 --> 01:00:26.200 Dario Alvarez: will. 735 01:00:26.810 --> 01:00:30.420 Dario Alvarez: you know, allow compliance with the Judge Carter ruling, which is to get 736 01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:33.450 an alternative to to folks sleeping and dying on the street. 737 01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:40.600 frank murphy: Also there is a. 738 01:00:41.390 --> 01:00:43.930 frank murphy: as we've stated pretty clearly. 739 01:00:44.450 --> 01:00:49.080 frank murphy: the amount of housing and the amount of homelessness that is 740 01:00:49.700 --> 01:00:55.440 frank murphy: is in Venice. I don't think there's any way around. 741 01:00:57.820 --> 01:00:59.029 frank murphy: you know. I mean. 742 01:00:59.750 --> 01:01:04.270 frank murphy: I think we're trying to make that point very clear, Jim, that the 743 01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.329 frank murphy: that this community has 744 01:01:08.040 --> 01:01:10.150 frank murphy: done more than it's fair share. 745 01:01:11.070 --> 01:01:12.939 frank murphy: And when you're looking at 746 01:01:13.210 --> 01:01:20.860 frank murphy: you know, 45% of all homeless in CD 11 reside in Venice. That's pretty stark. 747 01:01:22.030 --> 01:01:24.780 frank murphy: you know, we only represent 5% of the 748 01:01:24.930 --> 01:01:36.350 frank murphy: area of of CD 11, 5, and 45% of that population is here. The same is true for the psh and the other housing. So 749 01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:38.939 frank murphy: you know, I mean, I think, that 750 01:01:40.070 --> 01:01:47.900 frank murphy: we're getting a little bit off point. The point is that this these types of sites are available throughout District 11. 751 01:01:48.500 --> 01:01:56.309 frank murphy: And where can we place it? And how can we participate in that conversation before 752 01:01:57.260 --> 01:02:01.020 frank murphy: the placement is, you know, is imposed on us. 753 01:02:02.100 --> 01:02:09.109 frank murphy: which is what happened with the with some of the other of some of the other sites. 754 01:02:09.530 --> 01:02:11.220 frank murphy: Brian. 755 01:02:12.530 --> 01:02:17.379 Brian U: Yeah. When I've met with Judge Carter and Bonn before the Alliance. 756 01:02:17.650 --> 01:02:27.870 Brian U: This is all going to be per Council District, not what's in Venice versus Westchester, or whatever it's going to be. What's in Tracy's Council district. 757 01:02:28.230 --> 01:02:29.100 Brian U: and 758 01:02:29.340 --> 01:02:32.669 Brian U: I believe our fiduciary, as the Homeless Committee is to 759 01:02:32.710 --> 01:02:36.120 Brian U: look and see what's going on within the 40,000 760 01:02:36.540 --> 01:02:44.189 Brian U: people that live in Venice, and this and the 3 miles, or whatever it is that's here. When you say 45 of the existing 761 01:02:44.650 --> 01:02:49.179 Brian U: homeless services, so units are in Venice. 762 01:02:49.720 --> 01:02:57.899 Brian U: You know, I I would assume that we could take a map like this and highlight exactly within Venice, where the 45 is 763 01:02:58.140 --> 01:03:04.989 Brian U: and then you could populate the map with all the other sites within all the other areas within CD. 11, 764 01:03:06.090 --> 01:03:10.200 Brian U: because that's I mean. Eventually we have to hand this to Tracy Park. 765 01:03:10.700 --> 01:03:22.169 Brian U: Tracy Parks going to be told by Judge Carter in the Alliance that you have to do. X. Amount of beds. What we're also not thinking of is that the services for the beds 766 01:03:22.230 --> 01:03:33.970 Brian U: like they're gonna need to build a Detox center. They're gonna need to build services for alcohol and recovery services and mental health services. So there's going to be other uses besides just 767 01:03:34.260 --> 01:03:39.369 Brian U: the beds, because Judge Carter is coming down heavily on the county 768 01:03:39.600 --> 01:03:41.290 Brian U: in this alliance, as well 769 01:03:41.370 --> 01:03:51.100 Brian U: to provide the services, and all the services have to be within proximity of to where the beds are going to be. So I think, for our discussion from a homeless 770 01:03:52.100 --> 01:03:56.949 Brian U: committee. Perspective is, we've done what we've done. Show it on a map. 771 01:03:57.040 --> 01:04:04.930 Brian U: and then highlight in a different color where all the other sites are throughout the rest of the Council district, and let them figure it out. 772 01:04:06.070 --> 01:04:16.860 Brian U: and when they catch up to us, then maybe we take another one or whatever. But until the rest of CD 11 participates to the to the level that we have. 773 01:04:17.470 --> 01:04:21.650 Brian U: I don't know why we're trying to create and find new spaces. 774 01:04:23.140 --> 01:04:24.429 Brian U: That's just my opinion 775 01:04:29.110 --> 01:04:31.680 frank murphy: we had. 776 01:04:34.650 --> 01:04:36.619 frank murphy: Who else had their hand up. 777 01:04:37.150 --> 01:04:39.190 frank murphy: Jody, you have your hand up. 778 01:04:40.660 --> 01:04:41.819 Jody Mortimer: Yes, thank you. 779 01:04:42.270 --> 01:04:45.610 Jody Mortimer: I just. I had a couple of things 780 01:04:45.640 --> 01:04:50.040 Jody Mortimer: i'll speak to the latest on on Brian, although I don't agree with your last 781 01:04:50.460 --> 01:04:56.609 Jody Mortimer: statement about what we're here for, or we shouldn't Be looking for this. Look into it precise. 782 01:04:57.920 --> 01:05:01.059 Jody Mortimer: I did it you. I did agree with a lot which what you said. 783 01:05:01.200 --> 01:05:04.929 Jody Mortimer: as far as the the presentation that that website is. 784 01:05:05.220 --> 01:05:08.240 Jody Mortimer: It looks really like there was a lot of work done on that 785 01:05:08.340 --> 01:05:16.020 Jody Mortimer: website and me. Personally, I intend to look into it a lot more and use that that site. That's that's a really good work on that site. 786 01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:18.529 you know. 787 01:05:21.620 --> 01:05:26.410 Jody Mortimer: The went out yesterday and had a 0 count on, but it was raining. 788 01:05:26.730 --> 01:05:29.089 Jody Mortimer: We know that these got the homeless 789 01:05:29.160 --> 01:05:31.689 Jody Mortimer: are going to be back. They're going to be back. 790 01:05:32.030 --> 01:05:34.350 Jody Mortimer: They all, you know that 791 01:05:34.940 --> 01:05:39.000 Jody Mortimer: at least type of you know, just to guess. 50% within a month 792 01:05:39.210 --> 01:05:41.460 Jody Mortimer: are probably going to be back or 2 months. 793 01:05:41.590 --> 01:05:46.889 Jody Mortimer: and I I thought what we needed to do, and this is just to keep pressure on 794 01:05:47.010 --> 01:05:48.220 is to actually 795 01:05:49.670 --> 01:05:52.569 Jody Mortimer: big one site in District 11, one site 796 01:05:52.770 --> 01:06:09.319 Jody Mortimer: here in in in Venice. And is it possible to have these sites done within by a ha put a benchmark of like. These sites are ready to go. We would like we. We have these things going, and the emergency order cuts all the red tape 797 01:06:09.550 --> 01:06:12.670 Jody Mortimer: it. It cuts out a lot. Not all of it. I'm sorry about it. 798 01:06:13.010 --> 01:06:14.430 Jody Mortimer: So 799 01:06:15.530 --> 01:06:19.540 Jody Mortimer: can we do this is this possible to do? And 800 01:06:19.780 --> 01:06:21.290 the last thing is. 801 01:06:23.060 --> 01:06:27.889 Jody Mortimer: what are we going to the the Nemesis in the areas of the sites that we may choose for one 802 01:06:27.980 --> 01:06:29.839 as a recommendation. 803 01:06:30.350 --> 01:06:34.749 Jody Mortimer: and then maybe later on, I would like to give an update on the the care courts. 804 01:06:36.200 --> 01:06:36.790 Thanks. 805 01:06:43.540 --> 01:06:45.399 frank murphy: Okay. We've got 806 01:06:47.050 --> 01:06:53.139 PatRaphael: Frank will quickly, Can I? Can, I add, Sorry. I I think there was some hands up. Maybe I'm jumping. 807 01:06:54.980 --> 01:07:01.640 frank murphy: Yeah, Put Put your hand up. I'll get right right down to you. 808 01:07:03.130 --> 01:07:12.440 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Something I I always wonder, is how to identify all the homeless people on what they belong, because not that I know 809 01:07:12.530 --> 01:07:19.960 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: the whole scenario, but a lot of times I feel like that. People don't want to get into it. They want to get out of it. 810 01:07:20.270 --> 01:07:25.259 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: and who who actually does identify where they belong to 811 01:07:25.650 --> 01:07:28.949 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: on the homeless people. I can see if you have it 812 01:07:29.560 --> 01:07:39.039 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: budget issue, and you don't have a place, and you're you know you're not in a drug. So anything. Yes, you need a low income housing. But if you have 813 01:07:39.300 --> 01:07:45.620 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: mental problems or drug problems and all that issue who identifies where they belong to 814 01:07:47.270 --> 01:07:49.009 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: and where they should go. 815 01:07:49.410 --> 01:07:55.360 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I mean the locations. It's one story if I to identify what the people belong to, and they can 816 01:07:56.100 --> 01:08:09.190 Jody Mortimer: do a better. I think the air courts will be coming on with that. You can just. You can look up care, court care, California Carecourt facts. 817 01:08:09.550 --> 01:08:16.059 Jody Mortimer: and it has this fact from the Governor in the State Office care court facts. Okay. 818 01:08:16.180 --> 01:08:23.290 Jody Mortimer: and that that they're they're developing. And they have committed to having this whole thing in place by the end of 2,023. 819 01:08:24.580 --> 01:08:25.490 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Okay. 820 01:08:27.310 --> 01:08:28.189 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Thank you. 821 01:08:32.470 --> 01:08:33.309 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Hmm. 822 01:08:38.080 --> 01:08:39.969 Vicki Halliday: Right. Do you want me to call on people? 823 01:08:44.500 --> 01:08:47.670 Vicki Halliday: I've seen Coll. Let's hand this up, call it. Why don't you go ahead? 824 01:08:54.460 --> 01:09:02.789 C Bailey: Hi! I First of all, I want to thank Dario again. I his present, not only the presentation, but the work on the website 825 01:09:03.069 --> 01:09:03.840 C Bailey: is 826 01:09:04.040 --> 01:09:13.970 C Bailey: It's intense, and and it's, you know, well worth going through. I haven't been able to fully go through it. But 827 01:09:14.490 --> 01:09:18.240 C Bailey: I just want to re iterate some of the things that 828 01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:20.869 C Bailey: that was said by blind I mean it. 829 01:09:21.060 --> 01:09:23.539 C Bailey: Why should we, as 830 01:09:23.580 --> 01:09:29.739 C Bailey: the community, have been us add more when other communities have had very little or nothing. 831 01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:36.070 C Bailey: and I also want to go back on the term that Nimby was used. 832 01:09:37.010 --> 01:09:41.959 C Bailey: It's a contradiction in term to call people in Venezuela's we have endured 833 01:09:42.100 --> 01:09:44.229 C Bailey: everything in terms of 834 01:09:44.279 --> 01:10:01.530 C Bailey: housing supportive housing, low income, housing everything else that that's thrown at us, and this community has done more than it share than any other community, not just in the West Side. But I I put us up against most communities in this entire county. 835 01:10:01.710 --> 01:10:02.880 C Bailey: So 836 01:10:03.310 --> 01:10:06.849 C Bailey: I think the way to approach this is is looking at 837 01:10:07.730 --> 01:10:16.320 C Bailey: what we've done just like we said, what have we done. Put that on the table. We come with our, you know, a a handful of aces and 838 01:10:16.370 --> 01:10:27.689 C Bailey: and kings and queens. We've done it so someone else has got to lay their cards on the table and say, this is what they're willing to do, so that we don't keep shouldering all the burden 839 01:10:28.080 --> 01:10:33.550 C Bailey: well, being called nimble's, which again contradiction in terms. 840 01:10:34.100 --> 01:10:35.150 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Amen. 841 01:10:39.220 --> 01:10:43.780 Vicki Halliday: Right. We have a lot of audience people who've had their hands up for a long time. 842 01:10:44.730 --> 01:10:48.289 Vicki Halliday: and we're not exactly following the agenda, so 843 01:10:48.690 --> 01:10:51.450 Vicki Halliday: we might want to take some public comment now 844 01:10:51.990 --> 01:10:53.680 Vicki Halliday: and come back to to 845 01:10:53.710 --> 01:10:55.360 Vicki Halliday: to committee 846 01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:56.949 discussion. 847 01:10:58.960 --> 01:10:59.969 Vicki Halliday: You're muted. 848 01:11:02.710 --> 01:11:04.049 Vicki Halliday: Frank. You're muted. 849 01:11:08.140 --> 01:11:11.080 frank murphy: Yeah, that's fine. I I apologize. 850 01:11:11.490 --> 01:11:28.169 frank murphy: Yeah, let's go. To one thing, Vicki: 895 is Liz she's entering on the phone. But we've got a lot of hands up. So yeah. So let's let's get to. Yes, go ahead. 851 01:11:28.180 --> 01:11:33.849 Vicki Halliday: Okay. Cj: Your hand. Just been up forever. I'm gonna you go ahead first. 852 01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:51.160 CJ Cole: Okay. First of all, I really would appreciate it if you would follow your agenda. I hate to sound like some of the other people by. I have sat here for ages, and as soon as what's his face finishes presentation. The next thing on your thing was public comment. Okay? 853 01:11:51.250 --> 01:11:54.350 CJ Cole: And you didn't come to it. Okay, number 2. 854 01:11:55.330 --> 01:11:58.519 CJ Cole: We are tired of hearing this guy. 855 01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:06.150 CJ Cole: It is the same thing over and over before you even got appointed to be in charge of the homeless Committee. 856 01:12:06.500 --> 01:12:23.680 CJ Cole: You have tried to push this company onto us. We, as a community, have pretty well, I think, indicated that we've about had it until a whole lot more happens everywhere else with anything more being designated in Venice for homeless housing. 857 01:12:23.950 --> 01:12:29.470 CJ Cole: Okay, we have enough on the on board under construction right now. 858 01:12:29.530 --> 01:12:48.579 CJ Cole: and I think it's full time. I mean I don't know why we're wasting all of these people's time number 2. I don't think you even have a quorum. Your as far as the land use and planning committee comes, goes you're you are allowing for a possible motion in your agenda. 859 01:12:48.590 --> 01:12:52.420 CJ Cole: which, if you don't have a quorum. You can't even address a motion. 860 01:12:52.510 --> 01:13:02.769 CJ Cole: You know this thing is just it's like you just want to put your people in front of the community over and over and over again, and my news was correct 861 01:13:03.150 --> 01:13:07.600 CJ Cole: when she first asked, Why are we listening to this over again? Thank you. 862 01:13:08.900 --> 01:13:11.430 Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Cj. 863 01:13:11.710 --> 01:13:14.950 Vicki Halliday: Shawn. O'brien, go ahead. 864 01:13:15.980 --> 01:13:18.269 Sean Obrien: Oh, yeah, thank you. 865 01:13:19.390 --> 01:13:24.070 Sean Obrien: I was at the last meeting, and i'm glad that now you've included 866 01:13:24.200 --> 01:13:27.889 Sean Obrien: the rest of the district, the city, the county. 867 01:13:27.940 --> 01:13:31.060 Sean Obrien: I did spend some time on the website 868 01:13:31.290 --> 01:13:32.910 Sean Obrien: before 869 01:13:33.040 --> 01:13:38.839 Sean Obrien: it's complicated, you know it's not easy for somebody to go through. You gotta learn the process. 870 01:13:39.040 --> 01:13:42.000 My understanding was at the last meeting 871 01:13:42.030 --> 01:13:42.780 Sean Obrien: that 872 01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:55.149 Sean Obrien: basically there are only 3 designated spaces in Venice. One was up by flower, I think, or or maybe it was the bridge housing. The other one was over by Spark. 873 01:13:55.250 --> 01:13:58.979 Sean Obrien: and then the last one was 874 01:13:59.260 --> 01:14:02.510 Sean Obrien: where the monster on the Median wants to be built 875 01:14:02.570 --> 01:14:03.820 Sean Obrien: that parking lot. 876 01:14:04.770 --> 01:14:09.090 Sean Obrien: That was that was it for all of Venice. 877 01:14:09.470 --> 01:14:13.720 Sean Obrien: Now I take real offense to the fact that 878 01:14:13.860 --> 01:14:19.369 Sean Obrien: one of the metrics to gauge. This is where homeless encampments are 879 01:14:20.180 --> 01:14:28.290 Sean Obrien: homeless encampments travel like water with the path of re least resistant that is, we've had 30 years 880 01:14:28.400 --> 01:14:30.569 Sean Obrien: of council members. 881 01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:34.150 Sean Obrien: Oh, funneling homeless into Venice. 882 01:14:34.320 --> 01:14:36.869 Sean Obrien: and creating a containment zone here. 883 01:14:37.340 --> 01:14:40.480 Sean Obrien: Oh, so it's not fair that you know 884 01:14:40.550 --> 01:14:47.029 Sean Obrien: all Palisades and Brentwood were excluded from that because that's where the votes and money came from 885 01:14:47.140 --> 01:14:52.160 Sean Obrien: to keep these people in office. So let's just keep pushing it into Venice. 886 01:14:52.330 --> 01:15:11.600 Sean Obrien: So I would really like to take those metrics out. And then in in the meantime, the last 2 years or so, I think it's 41, 18. We've had several Council members, and I know boost Guy, you know I loved him. But, Dan, that guy every every month he would have a list 887 01:15:11.620 --> 01:15:20.240 Sean Obrien: of like 20 or 30 designate locations that he wanted to clear the encampments. 888 01:15:20.260 --> 01:15:24.389 Sean Obrien: And what do they move? They move throughout the city, and they end up in Venice. 889 01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:36.669 Sean Obrien: It's not fair that you know somebody comes here from either another part of the city, and as we all know, other parts of this State and the country, if not the world. 890 01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:43.770 Sean Obrien: and they pop a squad here, and you know they get the free meals. They get this, they get that they get the paraphernalia. 891 01:15:43.820 --> 01:15:52.339 Sean Obrien: They get a they get a bus and hustle the tourists, you know you know it's just ridiculous. And to reiterate with Jim said, is. 892 01:15:52.370 --> 01:15:54.630 Sean Obrien: you know we have 893 01:15:54.690 --> 01:16:02.989 Sean Obrien: a duty to the entire county, state, country and world, that we're a a beach destination. 894 01:16:03.530 --> 01:16:04.670 Sean Obrien: So 895 01:16:05.130 --> 01:16:07.829 Sean Obrien: there's a lot of flawed metrics in this. 896 01:16:08.120 --> 01:16:11.840 I do appreciate all the work that's gone into it. 897 01:16:12.080 --> 01:16:16.180 Sean Obrien: I would like to see more conversations tonight 898 01:16:16.240 --> 01:16:18.369 Sean Obrien: about other parts 899 01:16:18.590 --> 01:16:27.070 Sean Obrien: like big big areas. I don't want to hear about where you can put in 10 or 20 people. I want to hear where you can put in 30 or 50 900 01:16:27.200 --> 01:16:29.460 Sean Obrien: in other parts of the city and county. 901 01:16:31.400 --> 01:16:35.250 Sean Obrien: If you could address a couple of the comments that I made. 902 01:16:35.300 --> 01:16:40.799 Sean Obrien: Venice is a containment zone. Hopefully, in the next 4 years it will be less. 903 01:16:43.940 --> 01:16:53.530 Sean Obrien: Oh, I yes, i'll finish up. I am looking forward to looking at the site and seeing what he's done throughout the county. 904 01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:55.280 Sean Obrien: And 905 01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:59.269 Sean Obrien: yeah, good good luck, Thank you. I don't know what else to say. Thank you. 906 01:16:59.460 --> 01:17:00.389 Vicki Halliday: Thank you. 907 01:17:00.660 --> 01:17:03.280 Vicki Halliday: Gabriel Smith. Go ahead, please. 908 01:17:06.570 --> 01:17:19.749 Gabriel Smith: Hi, there! So a question for Dario I saw on the previous slide a picture of tents on a rooftop. Are these some of the red dots i'm seeing are those the proposed sites that we're suggesting that we put 909 01:17:20.110 --> 01:17:22.850 Gabriel Smith: unhouse people on rooftops. 910 01:17:22.970 --> 01:17:25.840 Gabriel Smith: Also question about 911 01:17:26.280 --> 01:17:41.090 Gabriel Smith: your organization as I'm. Just becoming familiar with the Pacific Center for urbanization is this: You said that this is a a nonprofit. How is it finance? And how do you collect your revenues? There are these tax dollars that 912 01:17:42.120 --> 01:17:44.310 Gabriel Smith: that allows you to stay operational? 913 01:17:44.400 --> 01:17:51.720 Gabriel Smith: And are you working in other communities outside of Los Angeles as well, or just through throughout Los Angeles. 914 01:17:53.700 --> 01:17:54.510 Gabriel Smith: That's all. 915 01:17:57.440 --> 01:18:00.219 Vicki Halliday: Okay, Thank you. Dave. 916 01:18:01.630 --> 01:18:03.240 Vicki Halliday: Elizabeth. 917 01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:10.990 Vicki Halliday: I've unmuted you. So go ahead on your phone. 918 01:18:14.550 --> 01:18:16.420 1310****895: I I am now unmuted. 919 01:18:18.480 --> 01:18:20.449 1310****895: My understanding is 920 01:18:20.670 --> 01:18:24.270 1310****895: that the criteria used to select these parcels 921 01:18:24.300 --> 01:18:28.700 1310****895: is the same criteria. The city council is going to be using 922 01:18:29.070 --> 01:18:30.750 1310****895: when they select parcels. 923 01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:32.440 1310****895: Well. 924 01:18:33.090 --> 01:18:36.700 1310****895: I think we we we need to stay within those boundaries. 925 01:18:37.310 --> 01:18:43.200 1310****895: and instead of trying to approach in terms of this is where we want things 926 01:18:43.690 --> 01:18:45.249 1310****895: it the other way. 927 01:18:45.420 --> 01:18:47.470 1310****895: Take the parcels in Venice 928 01:18:47.960 --> 01:18:49.830 1310****895: is absolutely 929 01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:51.160 1310****895: not to happen. 930 01:18:51.470 --> 01:18:55.000 1310****895: of course. First you cross out the parcels that 931 01:18:56.120 --> 01:19:00.019 1310****895: are already committed, and are having things built on them. 932 01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:01.370 1310****895: But 933 01:19:03.110 --> 01:19:06.400 1310****895: you wind up with something that you're not going to like. 934 01:19:07.430 --> 01:19:10.700 1310****895: but if push comes to shove. You can deal with it. 935 01:19:12.220 --> 01:19:14.189 1310****895: and we need to decide. 936 01:19:14.590 --> 01:19:16.690 1310****895: Deal with it. Is that going to mean 937 01:19:17.460 --> 01:19:18.490 1310****895: sheltered? 938 01:19:18.550 --> 01:19:20.049 1310****895: Is it going to mean 939 01:19:20.110 --> 01:19:22.739 interim? Is it going to mean permanent. 940 01:19:23.810 --> 01:19:27.319 1310****895: I I think these are the things we really have to take a look at 941 01:19:27.720 --> 01:19:29.019 1310****895: while we're at it. 942 01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:32.790 1310****895: Take a look at all of CD. 11 943 01:19:33.250 --> 01:19:37.020 1310****895: and say, okay, over there is a parcel comparable 944 01:19:37.760 --> 01:19:38.679 1310****895: by that one. 945 01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:44.069 1310****895: That's the end of my speech. 946 01:19:44.160 --> 01:19:49.029 Vicki Halliday: Okay, thank you. A. Liz. I mistakenly put you on now 947 01:19:49.050 --> 01:19:58.360 Vicki Halliday: as an audience person, and I'm being yelled at. So thank you very much. Okay, Lisa Redmond, Go ahead, please. 948 01:20:12.010 --> 01:20:15.019 Vicki Halliday: Lisa. I'm trying to unmute you, and it's 949 01:20:16.450 --> 01:20:29.820 Lisa Redmond: you might unmute it. Now, there you go. Okay. I'm also like Cj. In that i'm very confused, because the agenda never seems to get followed, and and part of that is there's for you know. 950 01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:38.280 Lisa Redmond: leader control of the meeting, because committee members just start jumping in with discussion instead of saying, let's follow the agenda. 951 01:20:39.330 --> 01:20:42.679 Lisa Redmond: So my question is, Why are we here tonight? 952 01:20:42.740 --> 01:20:50.290 Lisa Redmond: What is the goal? And I do appreciate the updating on the website, Dario. But again I 953 01:20:50.340 --> 01:20:54.569 Lisa Redmond: we didn't identify anything new. We're just repeating. 954 01:20:54.820 --> 01:21:09.350 Lisa Redmond: and I don't know, was your presentation even finished, and we jumped into committee questions which then led to community questions, public questions, Which then are we going to go back to presentation and get another chance to have more questions? I don't know we're all very confused. 955 01:21:09.630 --> 01:21:22.700 Lisa Redmond: and I do appreciate you, Dario, for putting out that this is a crisis, and we do need to relax some community standards and even the Coastal Commission, I think, would recognize that even with access. 956 01:21:24.180 --> 01:21:25.839 Lisa Redmond: So those things, every 957 01:21:26.010 --> 01:21:31.320 Lisa Redmond: everything needs to have an opportunity to be researched and followed instead of just 958 01:21:31.400 --> 01:21:33.720 Lisa Redmond: saying, No, no, no, we can't do that. 959 01:21:34.170 --> 01:21:39.779 Lisa Redmond: I'm also going to point out the word Nimby is very true and very real. 960 01:21:39.910 --> 01:21:44.409 Lisa Redmond: And Colette, it was one of your fellow committee members that said that not the presenter. 961 01:21:44.900 --> 01:21:48.870 Lisa Redmond: by saying that 962 01:21:49.010 --> 01:21:52.569 Lisa Redmond: this is a gentrified community. People are here. 963 01:21:52.770 --> 01:21:56.500 Lisa Redmond: and a lot of the people that are here have not been funneled in. 964 01:21:56.880 --> 01:22:08.959 Lisa Redmond: They were here they lived here, and that's part of it is because it is a rapidly growing, gentrified community and all research, and even the loss accounts will point out that people that are in a community have been here 965 01:22:08.980 --> 01:22:14.680 Lisa Redmond: for 10 years or more, and, like most people on this call are probably from somewhere else. 966 01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:22.670 Lisa Redmond: And finally, Jody, I know you keep bringing up care court. I think you should make a presentation and get it on the next Homelessness committee meeting. 967 01:22:24.210 --> 01:22:25.650 Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Lisa. 968 01:22:26.410 --> 01:22:28.769 Vicki Halliday: Come on in, Go ahead, please. 969 01:22:34.470 --> 01:22:35.740 Kalani W: Hello, her 970 01:22:35.780 --> 01:22:36.570 Kalani W: I 971 01:22:37.500 --> 01:22:41.510 Kalani W: so that we're going through the same presentation again. So I 972 01:22:41.730 --> 01:22:45.700 Kalani W: zoomed out and zoom back in. And it seems like we're 973 01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:53.269 Kalani W: reiterating the same concerns that we've been there done that seen this before with a few new things 974 01:22:53.390 --> 01:22:56.399 thrown in, and we're not certain 975 01:22:56.760 --> 01:23:02.480 Kalani W: why we're having to endure this presentation Again, that being said. 976 01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:05.130 Kalani W: I, I want to reiterate. 977 01:23:05.310 --> 01:23:06.179 Kalani W: I 978 01:23:07.810 --> 01:23:13.849 Kalani W: all 4 cares Court, but it's not strong enough. It doesn't mandate treatment. 979 01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:25.110 Kalani W: It only helps alleviate the stress in our current court system. We need to start also focusing on mandating treatment, to expect 980 01:23:25.120 --> 01:23:55.099 Kalani W: our the homeless people who many of them are in that that situation due to mental health and drug abuse, issues to suddenly wake up one day and say, oh, I need treatment today, and I really need to commit to it. That's not going to happen as evident by the Metros Bridge housing project. And what a mess that is! We need to start mandating treatment, and why, Aren't, we. 981 01:23:55.110 --> 01:24:13.039 Kalani W: We, accepting the fact that we can get more bang for our buck. If we build where land is cheapest, it doesn't make sense to me that we're trying to spread the contagion all over the city in the name of fairness, and and 982 01:24:13.050 --> 01:24:27.430 Kalani W: return an investment and cost be dam. I mean, I don't know of any taxpayer that wants to pay $800,000, or even $700,000 per unit for an affordable housing unit. 983 01:24:27.860 --> 01:24:29.890 Kalani W: None of us want to do that. 984 01:24:30.440 --> 01:24:32.249 Kalani W: We need to start 985 01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:40.939 Kalani W: being realistic. Look at the vacancy or Sears building downtown. That building can house 986 01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:53.230 Kalani W: tens of thousands of people. The the vacant Bill County Usc, the old County Usc Hospital. That's also a large structure we need to start if 987 01:24:53.420 --> 01:25:03.360 Kalani W: if putting a roof over their heads and getting them off the streets so that they can have shelter is the purpose, then 988 01:25:03.400 --> 01:25:08.470 Kalani W: what difference does it make where they're located? A roof is a roof? 989 01:25:08.790 --> 01:25:09.559 Kalani W: If 990 01:25:10.030 --> 01:25:13.869 Kalani W: for those who say, oh, we need to shelter them in place. 991 01:25:14.110 --> 01:25:18.930 Kalani W: Well, then, you're just drawing everyone to to the beach where it's nicer. 992 01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:26.879 Kalani W: you know, and and I agree. Many of these people are not from the West Side. 993 01:25:28.280 --> 01:25:29.240 Kalani W: I 994 01:25:30.220 --> 01:25:32.879 Kalani W: I'm. An indigenous person, so 995 01:25:33.010 --> 01:25:39.340 Kalani W: I am from from wherever I say I am. I'm, originally from Hawaii. But 996 01:25:40.300 --> 01:25:45.610 Kalani W: this was kind of a trade down actually. But that being said. 997 01:25:47.030 --> 01:26:04.530 Kalani W: many of the people, our transplants here, if you talk to them long enough, you'll find out they they caught a bus from St. Louis. They caught a bus from so somewhere hell even Bonn caught a bus from somewhere to get here. Our former council person. So 998 01:26:04.540 --> 01:26:10.999 Kalani W: let's, you know. Stop with the propaganda that oh, no, no, they're all from here. No, they're not. 999 01:26:11.040 --> 01:26:13.620 Kalani W: Many of them are transplants. 1000 01:26:13.810 --> 01:26:16.539 Kalani W: So could you start wrapping it up? Thank you. 1001 01:26:17.980 --> 01:26:22.000 Vicki Halliday: That's the end of public comment, Jim. You can go back to committee. 1002 01:26:22.030 --> 01:26:23.329 Vicki Halliday: made these comment. 1003 01:26:25.260 --> 01:26:26.290 frank murphy: Frank. 1004 01:26:28.630 --> 01:26:33.409 frank murphy: Yeah, Marnish, you had your hand up. 1005 01:26:41.430 --> 01:26:43.570 frank murphy: Pat, you got your hand up. 1006 01:26:49.140 --> 01:26:52.089 PatRaphael: Yeah. So 1007 01:26:53.410 --> 01:26:55.469 PatRaphael: I think one of the things that 1008 01:26:56.490 --> 01:26:59.040 PatRaphael: I keep wanting to 1009 01:27:00.250 --> 01:27:02.550 PatRaphael: kind of state and obvious again. 1010 01:27:02.780 --> 01:27:06.539 PatRaphael: There is a historic draw to Venice. 1011 01:27:07.430 --> 01:27:11.670 PatRaphael: The Board of Walk is worldwide, famous. 1012 01:27:12.130 --> 01:27:13.759 and if you're homeless 1013 01:27:14.160 --> 01:27:17.539 PatRaphael: you can kind of make it because of the boardwalk. 1014 01:27:17.780 --> 01:27:18.620 PatRaphael: so that 1015 01:27:19.140 --> 01:27:20.330 PatRaphael: it creates 1016 01:27:20.350 --> 01:27:23.170 a dynamic of attraction that I think 1017 01:27:23.270 --> 01:27:26.709 PatRaphael: every time we're we're we're thinking about this 1018 01:27:26.920 --> 01:27:30.739 PatRaphael: this population and trying 1019 01:27:31.070 --> 01:27:31.820 PatRaphael: the 1020 01:27:32.050 --> 01:27:34.019 PatRaphael: trying to work on the numbers 1021 01:27:34.190 --> 01:27:39.249 PatRaphael: we are ignoring that every day new people are being added. 1022 01:27:39.330 --> 01:27:41.720 PatRaphael: because the boardwalk is 1023 01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:46.520 PatRaphael: very appealing right? And then, some of these new people being added. 1024 01:27:46.620 --> 01:27:52.769 PatRaphael: they can come with a legitimate dream. And then that legitimate dream turns into 1025 01:27:52.820 --> 01:27:56.710 PatRaphael: the nightmare of being homeless, because there isn't 1026 01:27:57.450 --> 01:28:01.609 PatRaphael: low income housing available there isn't 1027 01:28:01.730 --> 01:28:03.680 PatRaphael: really any any 1028 01:28:04.240 --> 01:28:06.089 PatRaphael: adequate shelter solution. 1029 01:28:06.220 --> 01:28:09.449 PatRaphael: and and then that can create a whole 1030 01:28:09.840 --> 01:28:12.920 PatRaphael: degrading of the mind and the 1031 01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:15.289 PatRaphael: the the the interaction with community. 1032 01:28:15.310 --> 01:28:17.359 PatRaphael: So I think a lot of times 1033 01:28:17.450 --> 01:28:19.550 PatRaphael: what we are not seeing. 1034 01:28:19.810 --> 01:28:23.669 PatRaphael: We're not seeing how, not addressing things on the front end 1035 01:28:23.900 --> 01:28:26.060 PatRaphael: creates a problem on the back end. 1036 01:28:26.120 --> 01:28:28.429 PatRaphael: Now, if we look at Flower and we look at 1037 01:28:29.470 --> 01:28:31.450 PatRaphael: third, and we look at Hampton. 1038 01:28:31.630 --> 01:28:33.039 PatRaphael: we can see that 1039 01:28:33.240 --> 01:28:37.289 PatRaphael: sheltering, if that's the only solution is possible. 1040 01:28:37.620 --> 01:28:41.719 PatRaphael: Sheltering is possible in the short term, if that's the only solution. 1041 01:28:41.820 --> 01:28:42.480 PatRaphael: But 1042 01:28:42.690 --> 01:28:43.590 PatRaphael: I think 1043 01:28:43.820 --> 01:28:48.779 PatRaphael: what we really have to be thinking about is, what can we be done 1044 01:28:48.870 --> 01:28:56.539 PatRaphael: in an infrastructure in long-term mindset. Because this draw is happening, whether we want it or not 1045 01:28:56.640 --> 01:28:57.309 PatRaphael: right? 1046 01:28:57.460 --> 01:29:00.440 PatRaphael: And I thought that's what today's presentation was about. 1047 01:29:00.540 --> 01:29:04.989 PatRaphael: Where can we find, maybe places where 1048 01:29:05.070 --> 01:29:09.809 PatRaphael: we can kind of direct a community intention 1049 01:29:09.840 --> 01:29:17.000 PatRaphael: to address the draw that is already happening, whether we think people should be coming here or not. 1050 01:29:18.270 --> 01:29:19.539 frank murphy: Thanks, Pat 1051 01:29:21.490 --> 01:29:24.730 frank murphy: Jodi, or there you go. 1052 01:29:24.790 --> 01:29:37.269 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Oh, my hands up again! Oh, well, i'm, I just thinking one little small common. I feel like some of these people, if they need a housing, and so on, depending on what the condition is. 1053 01:29:37.450 --> 01:29:48.269 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: But if they're in a open areas and landscape areas that doesn't have to be a per for sure in Venice, but it could be somewhere else where there's open spaces. 1054 01:29:48.420 --> 01:29:57.949 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I don't exactly want to identify it now, but they, if they're surviving there, they can do landscaping. They can do 1055 01:29:58.710 --> 01:30:05.000 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: be part of the nature, and I feel like they're producing and and being effective 1056 01:30:05.610 --> 01:30:14.849 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: versus being in a room and just shelter if they're in drugs or mental problems, and they don't just want to be locked up. 1057 01:30:15.060 --> 01:30:25.310 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Does that make sense? I don't know it's a it's a complicated, but that's behind the location that you work so hard to accommodate, for 1058 01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:27.050 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: so 1059 01:30:27.740 --> 01:30:36.560 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I know a bit. Pre. And previously I mentioned it is downtown there a lot of industrial spaces, and so on our buildings that are not 1060 01:30:36.740 --> 01:30:44.050 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: open. I mean they're not used, which they can be also accommodate for. But it depends what their condition is. 1061 01:30:47.530 --> 01:30:49.179 frank murphy: Okay, My news? Thanks. 1062 01:30:54.640 --> 01:31:03.640 Jody Mortimer: Thank you. I I just want to address it at least, said Yes, thank you about the caricords, and i'll talk to Frank about doing the presentation. 1063 01:31:03.840 --> 01:31:07.800 Jody Mortimer: or better presentation on that. And I 1064 01:31:08.170 --> 01:31:10.119 Jody Mortimer: for what are the commenters? 1065 01:31:10.250 --> 01:31:12.929 Jody Mortimer: You know I don't see any other 1066 01:31:13.010 --> 01:31:16.250 Jody Mortimer: organizations coming to our boards 1067 01:31:16.280 --> 01:31:30.819 Jody Mortimer: and offering the kind of work that's going on. Nobody's just there's not a line out our doors that people are doing this. I think there's new people coming in this meetings all the time, and and the the learning curve on this, and I do appreciate 1068 01:31:30.830 --> 01:31:42.849 Jody Mortimer: a recap on the on the areas and stuff just to keep people up to date on it, that it this stuff is out there. And it was, and what what was the the presentation was? 5 to 10 min. That was it. 1069 01:31:42.890 --> 01:31:45.869 Jody Mortimer: But I I I really would 1070 01:31:46.060 --> 01:31:48.590 Jody Mortimer: hope that it is possible that we can at least pick 1071 01:31:48.640 --> 01:31:55.539 Jody Mortimer: one spot and then go forward with that; for when, as the as Pat was saying, there are. 1072 01:31:55.590 --> 01:31:56.870 Jody Mortimer: It's a draw 1073 01:31:56.960 --> 01:32:03.520 Jody Mortimer: not only other than the 50% or more of the of the individuals that are out there that have have been swept. 1074 01:32:03.770 --> 01:32:11.770 Jody Mortimer: and they're in temporary housing. They will be back. But of course there's always the draw in, so we need to think about long term a plan. 1075 01:32:12.120 --> 01:32:16.800 Jody Mortimer: and we can do it in Venice we should be, you know we take 1076 01:32:16.850 --> 01:32:27.280 Jody Mortimer: take on more, but we should be the the the gold star standard for this kind of stuff for other communities. And yeah, we can pick another district and it and within the district here. Thanks 1077 01:32:27.360 --> 01:32:28.360 Jody Mortimer: that for everybody. 1078 01:32:29.030 --> 01:32:29.809 frank murphy: Thanks. 1079 01:32:30.090 --> 01:32:31.620 frank murphy: So 1080 01:32:35.260 --> 01:32:38.110 frank murphy: let's let Dario 1081 01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:41.699 Vicki Halliday: Stan has a question right? 1082 01:32:41.730 --> 01:32:49.139 frank murphy: Oh, i'm sorry I'm. I was running late, Frank. I'm sorry I was on a with the county, but I think 1083 01:32:49.910 --> 01:32:52.919 Ansar Muhammad: Pat said it, and I heard it earlier. 1084 01:32:53.930 --> 01:32:58.379 Ansar Muhammad: You know we you have people that this won't, homeless people out of business period 1085 01:32:58.720 --> 01:33:02.370 Ansar Muhammad: that's not gonna happen. We have to be realistic. 1086 01:33:03.170 --> 01:33:06.880 Ansar Muhammad: I know all of my life. Venice has always been an attraction. 1087 01:33:07.460 --> 01:33:11.990 Ansar Muhammad: I don't know if it's a vortex down there, or something about the water. 1088 01:33:12.500 --> 01:33:16.129 Ansar Muhammad: But the question that comes to mind is, how how much water 1089 01:33:17.270 --> 01:33:20.209 Ansar Muhammad: do people have access to? And and CD. 11, 1090 01:33:21.040 --> 01:33:26.359 Ansar Muhammad: because that's what really attracts the people like, Pat was saying, the bore wall, but the water. 1091 01:33:26.530 --> 01:33:27.869 Ansar Muhammad: the ocean, just 1092 01:33:28.020 --> 01:33:33.179 Ansar Muhammad: the the pure air, I mean the the fresh air. Whether you all know it or not. There's an attraction. 1093 01:33:33.420 --> 01:33:36.280 Ansar Muhammad: you know, being away from the inner city and 1094 01:33:36.530 --> 01:33:40.459 Ansar Muhammad: downtown. I mean it's just Venice. Is this always been that way? 1095 01:33:40.770 --> 01:33:49.099 Ansar Muhammad: And so, if we have folks thinking that it's not going to be any unhouse people in Venice, you all is, is is mistaken. 1096 01:33:49.430 --> 01:33:53.439 Ansar Muhammad: So what we need to be looking at is, what can we do to 1097 01:33:54.060 --> 01:33:56.440 Ansar Muhammad: have a space in Venice 1098 01:33:56.910 --> 01:33:58.960 Ansar Muhammad: that can be controlled? 1099 01:33:59.270 --> 01:34:00.609 Ansar Muhammad: Have safety? 1100 01:34:01.030 --> 01:34:06.380 Ansar Muhammad: Have some sanitation going on where folks is not really on the concrete necessarily. 1101 01:34:06.630 --> 01:34:08.839 Ansar Muhammad: but in the more controlled environment. 1102 01:34:09.110 --> 01:34:13.660 Ansar Muhammad: because even the folks that have left then is temporarily like someone mentioned. 1103 01:34:13.880 --> 01:34:16.710 Ansar Muhammad: It's just a matter of time before they find they so back. 1104 01:34:17.210 --> 01:34:21.129 Ansar Muhammad: And then, so I just wanted to put that out there, and that's just my opinion 1105 01:34:21.260 --> 01:34:24.179 Ansar Muhammad: on the matter. It is a personal thing. Thank you. 1106 01:34:27.610 --> 01:34:28.630 frank murphy: Thanks. And 1107 01:34:29.060 --> 01:34:29.950 frank murphy: Stan 1108 01:34:34.680 --> 01:34:36.840 frank murphy: Dario. 1109 01:34:37.590 --> 01:34:44.689 frank murphy: That was a a lot of questions. Hit me all at once. Can do you want to address this. 1110 01:34:45.230 --> 01:35:04.639 Vicki Halliday: Wait a minute. Yeah, I will. I I know. I took note of the questions, and i'll do my best to address Everyone's points about all right. Hang on just 1 s. We have an additional. We have several, Frank. You might want to do. Let Dario speak, and then we can go back for additional public comment cause several hands have gone up. Okay. 1111 01:35:04.650 --> 01:35:05.930 frank murphy: How are you sorry? 1112 01:35:11.910 --> 01:35:12.650 Dario Alvarez: See? 1113 01:35:13.250 --> 01:35:15.449 Dario Alvarez: First I will 1114 01:35:16.710 --> 01:35:20.249 Dario Alvarez: and reiterate something that Stan said regarding 1115 01:35:21.200 --> 01:35:22.309 Dario Alvarez: greetings. 1116 01:35:22.350 --> 01:35:25.819 Dario Alvarez: spaces that are safe, sanitarian to a certain degree. 1117 01:35:26.320 --> 01:35:27.559 Dario Alvarez: be controlled 1118 01:35:28.010 --> 01:35:30.750 Dario Alvarez: better than others, and 1119 01:35:30.910 --> 01:35:31.719 stops. 1120 01:35:31.940 --> 01:35:38.160 That is what's at play when identifying sites and a that can accommodate groups of 1121 01:35:38.780 --> 01:35:40.630 Dario Alvarez: between 20 and 30 people. 1122 01:35:40.670 --> 01:35:46.809 So for for those folks who have mentioned identifying sites that can take on 1123 01:35:47.440 --> 01:35:51.869 Dario Alvarez: larger number of people of people, a much larger number of people 1124 01:35:52.350 --> 01:35:56.280 Dario Alvarez: that is contrary to the best practices around. 1125 01:35:56.680 --> 01:35:58.940 Dario Alvarez: In support of housing and temporary housing. 1126 01:35:59.200 --> 01:36:06.179 Dario Alvarez: the scarred side approach is has been deemed the the best practice or the best approach for 1127 01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:11.620 Dario Alvarez: housing of this type. For a number of reasons, perhaps, the most important one is that 1128 01:36:11.810 --> 01:36:13.179 Dario Alvarez: there's the 1129 01:36:13.320 --> 01:36:17.809 Dario Alvarez: the the the condition that is called in the vernacular out of sight, out of mind. 1130 01:36:18.140 --> 01:36:21.290 Dario Alvarez: And what content to happen to sites 1131 01:36:21.590 --> 01:36:24.249 Dario Alvarez: that have large populations of folks 1132 01:36:24.870 --> 01:36:28.970 Dario Alvarez: that are then, where the fights are not well maintained. 1133 01:36:29.810 --> 01:36:35.749 Dario Alvarez: there can be safety issues, and and I can. I can go into examples where folks have lost 1134 01:36:35.850 --> 01:36:37.509 their lives 1135 01:36:37.620 --> 01:36:43.759 Dario Alvarez: as a result of of sites or buildings being poorly maintained. Because there are these concentrations of folks who are 1136 01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:52.479 Dario Alvarez: kind of removed from the public eye that's not desirable. What's more desirable with the understanding that there is a range of different needs that folks have 1137 01:36:53.210 --> 01:36:59.490 Dario Alvarez: from simply shelter to other services that that are responding to the 1138 01:37:00.500 --> 01:37:04.339 Dario Alvarez: an ordinary amount of trauma that folks are accumulating by sleeping on the streets. 1139 01:37:04.780 --> 01:37:05.690 Dario Alvarez: Yeah. 1140 01:37:07.170 --> 01:37:16.009 Dario Alvarez: the the scattered side approach allows folks to be incorporated into communities and to a better degree, and and where folks receive services to a better degree. 1141 01:37:16.050 --> 01:37:21.289 Dario Alvarez: So that gets to the the question of Why not put. You know all the people in one location. 1142 01:37:21.520 --> 01:37:26.280 Dario Alvarez: It's not better policy to do that, but that happens sometimes 1143 01:37:29.010 --> 01:37:30.090 Dario Alvarez: right. 1144 01:37:32.290 --> 01:37:38.270 Dario Alvarez: I'm. I'm reluctant to encourage folks to consider industrial land 1145 01:37:38.690 --> 01:37:40.260 Dario Alvarez: more than 1146 01:37:40.330 --> 01:37:45.549 you know exclusively because of the adverse health effects of the industrial uses. 1147 01:37:45.730 --> 01:37:51.180 Dario Alvarez: Not all industrial uses are noxious uses, but there are a lot of industrial uses that are. 1148 01:37:51.210 --> 01:37:52.760 Dario Alvarez: and it's it's 1149 01:37:53.010 --> 01:37:55.970 Dario Alvarez: certainly not compassionate and 1150 01:37:56.640 --> 01:38:01.219 Dario Alvarez: and potentially not legal, either to to attempt to place 1151 01:38:01.460 --> 01:38:03.490 Dario Alvarez: sites for housing of any kind 1152 01:38:03.800 --> 01:38:06.759 Dario Alvarez: in in near industrial uses. 1153 01:38:07.100 --> 01:38:09.519 Dario Alvarez: with perhaps some limited. 1154 01:38:10.320 --> 01:38:14.549 Dario Alvarez: some limited options where there are light industrial uses that are not obnoxious. 1155 01:38:21.500 --> 01:38:22.420 Dario Alvarez: Yeah. 1156 01:38:22.600 --> 01:38:24.270 let me see here. 1157 01:38:26.290 --> 01:38:30.279 Dario Alvarez: I I think Pat Raphael's comments are very important in terms of 1158 01:38:30.650 --> 01:38:32.400 Dario Alvarez: identifying these 1159 01:38:32.860 --> 01:38:35.160 Dario Alvarez: sites with the community 1160 01:38:35.960 --> 01:38:38.429 Dario Alvarez: is, is, you know, coalescing around. 1161 01:38:38.550 --> 01:38:39.610 Dario Alvarez: propose 1162 01:38:39.730 --> 01:38:43.199 Dario Alvarez: temporary or permanent emergency housing 1163 01:38:43.560 --> 01:38:46.150 to to consider those in the 1164 01:38:47.880 --> 01:38:53.850 Dario Alvarez: in a, in a spectrum and a trajectory of long term housing and addressing the root causes which 1165 01:38:53.970 --> 01:38:55.710 mentioned a number of them. 1166 01:38:57.450 --> 01:39:02.870 Dario Alvarez: But I will take the opportunity to mention the the overall housing crisis, which is one factor 1167 01:39:03.580 --> 01:39:04.240 Dario Alvarez: in 1168 01:39:04.380 --> 01:39:11.710 Dario Alvarez: increasing homelessness rates not the only one. But it's important to address the immediate need, which is what this 1169 01:39:11.740 --> 01:39:12.969 Dario Alvarez: research project 1170 01:39:13.350 --> 01:39:18.059 is a support for. But then also to address some of the root causes 1171 01:39:18.210 --> 01:39:20.109 Dario Alvarez: of of the housing crisis. 1172 01:39:24.690 --> 01:39:26.739 Let's see 1173 01:39:28.520 --> 01:39:30.580 Dario Alvarez: that it's necessary to mention that 1174 01:39:30.630 --> 01:39:32.859 the Sears Tower. I I don't 1175 01:39:32.890 --> 01:39:34.290 Dario Alvarez: believe that would 1176 01:39:34.370 --> 01:39:41.279 accommodate tens of thousands of people. But I think the point is taken there. There are buildings that are underutilized that that can 1177 01:39:41.370 --> 01:39:46.780 Dario Alvarez: serve to be converted for temporary or permanent housing, and 1178 01:39:48.960 --> 01:39:53.220 in terms of best practices. It would be best to have a mix of 1179 01:39:53.480 --> 01:39:56.220 Dario Alvarez: of of, let's say in the income types 1180 01:39:56.380 --> 01:39:58.020 Dario Alvarez: as opposed to 1181 01:39:58.230 --> 01:40:00.950 Dario Alvarez: you know, 10,000 people in in 1182 01:40:01.020 --> 01:40:01.769 of 1183 01:40:02.120 --> 01:40:04.670 Dario Alvarez: who were previously on housed all in one location. 1184 01:40:05.050 --> 01:40:08.060 Dario Alvarez: perhaps for obvious reasons. But that's, I think, a separate discussion. 1185 01:40:13.480 --> 01:40:15.910 Dario Alvarez: Some folks want to reach out 1186 01:40:16.040 --> 01:40:18.120 Dario Alvarez: and engage in. 1187 01:40:18.170 --> 01:40:21.309 Dario Alvarez: You know, a quick research project to 1188 01:40:21.390 --> 01:40:22.779 to create 1189 01:40:23.160 --> 01:40:24.230 Dario Alvarez: a rubric. 1190 01:40:24.960 --> 01:40:34.459 Dario Alvarez: to equitably distribute the unhoused into the different city council districts. I'm happy to engage in those conversations because we have the tools to do so. 1191 01:40:34.990 --> 01:40:40.820 Otherwise, we're, you know, developing our rubrics, using academic and policy literature. 1192 01:40:40.880 --> 01:40:43.740 But for those folks who are interested in seeing. 1193 01:40:43.990 --> 01:40:45.299 Dario Alvarez: Let's see the next. 1194 01:40:45.630 --> 01:41:02.259 Dario Alvarez: Then and another iteration of this research project to look at how many on-house folks ought to go where and why. I'm happy. I'm. I'm. Always available to engage in in topics of of of research, design, and and would gladly engage with that and and try to produce as many 1195 01:41:02.520 --> 01:41:06.130 Dario Alvarez: results as quickly as possible with with the resources we have. 1196 01:41:09.260 --> 01:41:10.559 Dario Alvarez: Let's see. 1197 01:41:10.860 --> 01:41:17.699 So Gabriel mentioned rooftops. I'm not sure. I'm not sure where that 1198 01:41:19.090 --> 01:41:23.059 that there may be maybe a misunderstanding. But but I I don't 1199 01:41:23.380 --> 01:41:25.740 Dario Alvarez: don't i'm not. I'm not clear where where that 1200 01:41:25.940 --> 01:41:30.770 Dario Alvarez: came from. But you know it's nice to meet you and and welcome to 1201 01:41:30.830 --> 01:41:34.040 Dario Alvarez: the research that we've prepared 1202 01:41:34.480 --> 01:41:35.599 Dario Alvarez: are 1203 01:41:35.640 --> 01:41:43.000 Dario Alvarez: our funding largely comes from our social enterprise that that provides consulting services, and we 1204 01:41:43.390 --> 01:41:47.699 Dario Alvarez: then take a portion of the profits of those services and use them for research 1205 01:41:47.900 --> 01:41:55.620 Dario Alvarez: largely because of the lack of this type of research done at a quick pace by the the city agencies like city planning. 1206 01:41:56.050 --> 01:42:04.580 Dario Alvarez: But we also take donations from the public from folks like you. So if you want to reach out and get involved in our research projects, please reach out. We'd be happy to 1207 01:42:04.640 --> 01:42:06.029 Dario Alvarez: to work together with you. 1208 01:42:06.180 --> 01:42:07.200 Dario Alvarez: Yeah. 1209 01:42:07.720 --> 01:42:09.880 Dario Alvarez: There were perhaps a number of 1210 01:42:10.080 --> 01:42:12.110 of comments 1211 01:42:13.980 --> 01:42:14.980 that 1212 01:42:16.030 --> 01:42:16.990 Dario Alvarez: you know, I think. 1213 01:42:17.410 --> 01:42:21.530 Dario Alvarez: as I listen to everyone in the public and the committee speak their 1214 01:42:21.840 --> 01:42:26.280 Dario Alvarez: it, it seems like there's a stark contrast between the 2 1215 01:42:26.690 --> 01:42:29.930 Dario Alvarez: positions. One position is Venice ought to do more. 1216 01:42:30.230 --> 01:42:31.460 You know 1217 01:42:31.820 --> 01:42:47.360 Dario Alvarez: Venice is a compassionate community, and a community that has several natural draws for folks to come live outside ought to do more to keep people safe. Both those who are choosing to live outside, as well as those who who who live in in 1218 01:42:47.500 --> 01:42:48.360 Dario Alvarez: in a house. 1219 01:42:49.120 --> 01:42:57.439 Dario Alvarez: and and then the opposite position is Venice ought not to provide anything. Venice has done enough. Folks ought to go elsewhere. 1220 01:42:57.900 --> 01:42:58.800 Dario Alvarez: Yeah. 1221 01:42:58.960 --> 01:43:01.920 Dario Alvarez: Erm: I just want to point out that 1222 01:43:02.050 --> 01:43:05.820 it's really up to you all in in the community to 1223 01:43:05.970 --> 01:43:08.680 Dario Alvarez: coalesce around what action you'll you'll take it's 1224 01:43:09.390 --> 01:43:10.639 It's 1225 01:43:13.100 --> 01:43:17.049 yeah it. I think everyone has a similarly difficult position 1226 01:43:17.270 --> 01:43:30.120 Dario Alvarez: when it comes to the issue of of the unhoused and what to do about it, because certainly the status quo is not sustainable, and it and it has been getting worse for a number of years. So I just encourage folks to 1227 01:43:31.280 --> 01:43:50.770 Dario Alvarez: either engage with other researchers or other decision makers and planners in any way that feels right to You certainly engage with us if you feel open to doing so, because the more data that we can take in will the the richer that our our processes will be. In other words, the more informed our analysis can be 1228 01:43:50.910 --> 01:44:01.029 Dario Alvarez: the the more attuned to to, to to public positions. It'll be so. Please do reach out to us. We are open, whether whether it feels like 1229 01:44:01.150 --> 01:44:03.519 Dario Alvarez: whether it feels to you like we are on 1230 01:44:03.580 --> 01:44:06.070 Dario Alvarez: the same side or opposing sides. 1231 01:44:06.130 --> 01:44:11.789 Dario Alvarez: From From a research standpoint we're taking no side at all, and and entering 1232 01:44:12.020 --> 01:44:17.150 empirical data into systems, and and allowing the results to inform discussions. 1233 01:44:17.380 --> 01:44:21.359 Dario Alvarez: So I think 1234 01:44:21.690 --> 01:44:25.090 PatRaphael: sorry I don't mean to jump in like this. But this is a perfect time to 1235 01:44:25.300 --> 01:44:27.840 PatRaphael: get in touch with you personally, if we need to. 1236 01:44:28.340 --> 01:44:40.600 Dario Alvarez: is there it's not that big a credible. It's okay to give contact information. Okay, thanks. Yeah. I believe my. I believe my emails have have been published on the meeting agenda when when I presented, but 1237 01:44:41.290 --> 01:44:51.220 Dario Alvarez: my my email address is my first name, Da R. I. o@pacificurbanism.com, and you can, you can, you know, provide? There's a 1238 01:44:51.510 --> 01:44:54.460 Dario Alvarez: There's a comment section in our our contact section. 1239 01:44:54.500 --> 01:44:59.479 our web page, and you can always reach out to us in that way. But you can reach out to me directly. 1240 01:44:59.600 --> 01:45:03.969 Dario Alvarez: erm@myemailwhichismyfirstnameatpacificurbanism.com. 1241 01:45:04.240 --> 01:45:05.750 Dario Alvarez: And 1242 01:45:05.810 --> 01:45:13.930 And you know, before Covid I was making it out to Venice quite a bit more frequently, but i'm always happy to have a reason to come out. So I am happy to 1243 01:45:14.030 --> 01:45:27.299 Dario Alvarez: need in person to to, you know. Go over research, design questions and the results of our research. I've come out a number of times to give public presentations, and i'm happy to do so whenever whenever there's a need for that as well. 1244 01:45:28.330 --> 01:45:29.349 frank murphy: All right. 1245 01:45:30.980 --> 01:45:34.569 frank murphy: I think we've got Dario. Thank you. 1246 01:45:34.640 --> 01:45:38.880 frank murphy: We have a couple of comments coming 1247 01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:41.470 frank murphy: from the board here to 1248 01:45:41.510 --> 01:45:43.559 frank murphy: are from the panelists 1249 01:45:45.520 --> 01:45:46.630 frank murphy: Stan. 1250 01:45:46.830 --> 01:45:50.090 frank murphy: You had your hand up, and, Vicky, you got your hand up. 1251 01:45:50.360 --> 01:45:52.250 frank murphy: You can go. 1252 01:45:52.310 --> 01:45:54.829 Ansar Muhammad: I just wanted to think 1253 01:45:55.190 --> 01:45:57.139 Ansar Muhammad: you know the more I listen to you. 1254 01:45:57.980 --> 01:46:02.250 Ansar Muhammad: the more it's becoming very clear. I mean, this is a research project. 1255 01:46:02.810 --> 01:46:08.139 Ansar Muhammad: So for those that's on the line that is saying he had presented before presented. Before 1256 01:46:08.430 --> 01:46:11.180 Ansar Muhammad: I challenge you all to find someone else 1257 01:46:11.420 --> 01:46:14.919 Ansar Muhammad: that's willing to come to our committee or to our community 1258 01:46:15.290 --> 01:46:16.349 Ansar Muhammad: with data 1259 01:46:16.370 --> 01:46:17.690 Ansar Muhammad: and research. 1260 01:46:17.910 --> 01:46:23.630 Ansar Muhammad: Let's weigh it because I have not heard anyone other than Dario presenting 1261 01:46:24.060 --> 01:46:27.579 Ansar Muhammad: data and research around this complex issue 1262 01:46:28.180 --> 01:46:32.410 Ansar Muhammad: of the UN House. So thank you, Dorian, I want to thank Frank for invite me. 1263 01:46:32.810 --> 01:46:38.469 Ansar Muhammad: You know this ain't the first time, so I hope you come back, and we need to continue this conversation 1264 01:46:38.750 --> 01:46:40.130 Ansar Muhammad: to we get to a 1265 01:46:40.230 --> 01:46:42.050 Ansar Muhammad: practical resolution. 1266 01:46:42.540 --> 01:46:45.599 Ansar Muhammad: So thank you, Doria. I just want to say that publicly 1267 01:46:48.090 --> 01:46:50.780 frank murphy: I received that stand. Thank you for your first saying that. 1268 01:46:54.130 --> 01:46:55.150 frank murphy: Vicki. 1269 01:46:55.390 --> 01:46:58.150 Vicki Halliday: Yeah. I mean. 1270 01:46:58.260 --> 01:47:02.789 Vicki Halliday: you know, Dario First and foremost, I mean, I appreciate the research 1271 01:47:03.260 --> 01:47:12.290 Vicki Halliday: and the way this data is all laid out. What I had hoped for tonight is that we would drill down some on Venus 1272 01:47:12.450 --> 01:47:13.610 Vicki Halliday: science 1273 01:47:13.850 --> 01:47:16.519 Vicki Halliday: and what they could be used for. 1274 01:47:16.790 --> 01:47:26.170 Vicki Halliday: You know, lot by a lot. I mean there, Aren't, that many of them to go over. I think I think people would kind of hope to talk about some of that. 1275 01:47:26.470 --> 01:47:31.020 Vicki Halliday: Some of them are tiny projects. Some of them are are larger 1276 01:47:32.890 --> 01:47:34.240 Vicki Halliday: and sites 1277 01:47:34.540 --> 01:47:35.380 Vicki Halliday: The 1278 01:47:35.590 --> 01:47:36.580 Vicki Halliday: get break 1279 01:47:36.660 --> 01:47:38.639 Vicki Halliday: in their applied use 1280 01:47:38.790 --> 01:47:42.460 Vicki Halliday: as somebody who lives by bridge housing and 1281 01:47:42.980 --> 01:47:50.559 Vicki Halliday: has gone through that. If if a facility, whether it's safe camping, safe parking bridge home. 1282 01:47:52.730 --> 01:47:54.099 Vicki Halliday: if it if it isn't. 1283 01:47:54.320 --> 01:47:56.380 Vicki Halliday: if if it isn't, well run. 1284 01:47:57.200 --> 01:48:06.579 Vicki Halliday: it's going to be a nightmare for the surrounding area, and I think that that sort of thing has to be discussed. I realize that you're coming. More. 1285 01:48:06.660 --> 01:48:13.799 Vicki Halliday: i'm hearing more and more ideology. And all of this, which I think put some of our backs up just a little bit, because 1286 01:48:17.130 --> 01:48:19.649 Vicki Halliday: what we're enduring as 1287 01:48:19.700 --> 01:48:21.250 Vicki Halliday: house residents 1288 01:48:21.570 --> 01:48:25.100 Vicki Halliday: in our very own yards that are very, I mean. 1289 01:48:25.310 --> 01:48:26.120 Vicki Halliday: you know 1290 01:48:27.340 --> 01:48:34.020 Vicki Halliday: it has not been the easiest place in the world. People see what we've gone through. They don't want to go through it either. 1291 01:48:34.490 --> 01:48:40.500 Vicki Halliday: People need housing. Yes, Venice could be have density. It could have more density. 1292 01:48:40.660 --> 01:48:42.010 Vicki Halliday: you know, have 1293 01:48:42.400 --> 01:48:45.489 Vicki Halliday: a 6 unit building rather than 1294 01:48:45.650 --> 01:48:46.869 Vicki Halliday: and make mansion. 1295 01:48:47.240 --> 01:48:47.889 But 1296 01:48:48.330 --> 01:48:54.239 Vicki Halliday: that's the sort of thing that's got to be addressed and it's I don't think it's all ideology, and i'm sort of 1297 01:48:54.510 --> 01:49:02.439 Vicki Halliday: I'm. I'm turned off tonight because I didn't want to hear the ideology part of this. I really wanted to drill down on the sites themselves. 1298 01:49:02.500 --> 01:49:08.410 Vicki Halliday: But thank you for what you do. I guess eventually we'll we'll get there. We'll get some answers. Thank you. Daria. 1299 01:49:12.060 --> 01:49:14.110 frank murphy: Pat, You raised your hand. 1300 01:49:16.580 --> 01:49:17.750 PatRaphael: and 1301 01:49:18.950 --> 01:49:25.229 PatRaphael: I I'd like to point it out, because sometimes it doesn't happen too often. I a 100% agreed with Vicki 1302 01:49:25.480 --> 01:49:29.829 PatRaphael: that I thought this was supposed to be more directed towards 1303 01:49:29.960 --> 01:49:33.999 PatRaphael: action. Then then just the conversation we're having today. 1304 01:49:34.210 --> 01:49:36.490 PatRaphael: and I wanted to point out to 1305 01:49:36.690 --> 01:49:39.179 PatRaphael: Dario's data set 1306 01:49:39.380 --> 01:49:42.320 PatRaphael: is also limited to 1307 01:49:42.780 --> 01:49:47.570 PatRaphael: publicly available spots. There is a whole other 1308 01:49:47.600 --> 01:49:48.750 of 1309 01:49:51.500 --> 01:49:53.649 PatRaphael: I I could say 1310 01:49:53.680 --> 01:49:59.770 PatRaphael: inventory of possibilities when we're looking at all of the buildings that are sitting 1311 01:50:00.030 --> 01:50:01.270 PatRaphael: right stuff that 1312 01:50:01.420 --> 01:50:06.210 PatRaphael: we can walk by for a year or 2 years or 5 years. 1313 01:50:06.270 --> 01:50:17.750 PatRaphael: See Isn't really being used in an effective way right? So i'd like to consider, adding that to the conversation, because it seems like Dario's work 1314 01:50:17.820 --> 01:50:21.840 PatRaphael: has has really given us a limited 1315 01:50:21.890 --> 01:50:23.890 PatRaphael: a number to work with. 1316 01:50:23.950 --> 01:50:35.880 PatRaphael: even though we we we're we're kind of choosing not to even look at those too hard. So thank you again for coming in and thank you for for taking the time to 1317 01:50:35.940 --> 01:50:38.059 PatRaphael: to present data so that we can 1318 01:50:38.080 --> 01:50:38.710 consider. 1319 01:50:40.380 --> 01:50:41.519 frank murphy: Thanks, Pat. 1320 01:50:42.880 --> 01:50:45.040 frank murphy: Okay. 1321 01:50:47.910 --> 01:50:54.689 frank murphy: we have a lot of hands up. We have 6 hands up. 1322 01:51:00.680 --> 01:51:10.810 frank murphy: We have 6 hands up. One is well, one is 8, 9, 5. That's Liz you. Wanna You want me to go through this list or not. 1323 01:51:11.130 --> 01:51:13.879 Vicki Halliday: I mean, do you want to let public comment again. 1324 01:51:14.010 --> 01:51:22.239 frank murphy: and i'll go through them. 1325 01:51:22.310 --> 01:51:26.899 Vicki Halliday: Okay, fine. I mean. So so just to 1326 01:51:27.010 --> 01:51:28.870 I have to. I have to a 1327 01:51:28.960 --> 01:51:46.060 frank murphy: apologize and Excuse myself. I have a six-year-old, but I need to put to bed, and I have no one else to help me with that at the moment so if there's going to be another round of public. Oh, Dario, you can. Yeah, no, that's that's that's fine. These are public comments. We'll take that. You don't need to answer them. 1328 01:51:46.630 --> 01:51:56.069 Dario Alvarez: I really thank you to everyone for the opportunity to to share the research, and I look forward to following up with with those folks who are interested. 1329 01:51:56.420 --> 01:51:59.600 Jody Mortimer: Thank you that, are you? 1330 01:52:00.260 --> 01:52:01.730 C Bailey: You're amazing. Thank you. 1331 01:52:02.850 --> 01:52:03.519 You. 1332 01:52:04.550 --> 01:52:09.679 frank murphy: So Liz was 8, 9, 5, so i'd let Liz go first and then let's go down the rest. 1333 01:52:10.660 --> 01:52:13.630 frank murphy: if that's possible. Okay. 1334 01:52:20.500 --> 01:52:24.729 Vicki Halliday: she's not in her desk, Frank. If you look at the picture. Oh, okay. 1335 01:52:24.820 --> 01:52:31.100 Vicki Halliday: So we'll do all the we'll do the public comment. 1336 01:52:31.760 --> 01:52:35.519 Vicki Halliday: Okay, Kathryn should go ahead. Please. 1337 01:52:46.370 --> 01:52:47.999 Vicki Halliday: Katherine, go ahead, please. 1338 01:52:52.130 --> 01:52:53.219 frank murphy: Okay. 1339 01:52:55.160 --> 01:52:57.719 frank murphy: Move on. 1340 01:52:57.840 --> 01:52:59.189 Vicki Halliday: Give me. 1341 01:52:59.260 --> 01:53:00.360 Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Fright. 1342 01:53:00.630 --> 01:53:02.400 frank murphy: No, I 1343 01:53:02.630 --> 01:53:04.750 Vicki Halliday: and Kate Smith Go ahead. 1344 01:53:05.060 --> 01:53:05.910 Vicki Halliday: Hey? Real 1345 01:53:07.220 --> 01:53:08.660 Gabriel Smith: hi! 1346 01:53:09.270 --> 01:53:24.189 Gabriel Smith: Dario never really answered my questions. Are we considering putting homeless people on rooftops? According to that picture, is that some of the red dots that we were looking at, considering here for homeless sites. Also, how is the organization funded? Do they receive tax dollars? 1347 01:53:24.260 --> 01:53:25.150 Gabriel Smith: That's all. 1348 01:53:25.800 --> 01:53:26.960 frank murphy: Thank you. 1349 01:53:27.370 --> 01:53:28.000 Okay. 1350 01:53:29.570 --> 01:53:30.280 Alright. 1351 01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:41.189 Vicki Halliday: Phone number ending in 690, go ahead, please. 1352 01:53:42.160 --> 01:53:44.240 1310****690: Yes, it's your one. Does that me? 1353 01:53:44.260 --> 01:53:46.300 Vicki Halliday: Yes, I guess. 1354 01:53:46.420 --> 01:53:49.630 1310****690: Yeah, I just want to bring up something that i'm just really. 1355 01:53:49.830 --> 01:53:51.840 I've heard the whole conversation. 1356 01:53:51.910 --> 01:53:55.820 I logged into a plan check meeting on Sunday. 1357 01:53:55.920 --> 01:53:57.959 1310****690: which I attended many years. 1358 01:53:58.110 --> 01:54:02.309 and one of the things that other communities are bringing up, especially those 1359 01:54:02.430 --> 01:54:10.080 that have, that we worked so hard to get specific and community plans all of a sudden. Now they're throwing in all this. 1360 01:54:10.250 --> 01:54:25.960 1310****690: all these projects in these communities where there was no there, then we didn't. Why is it that we worked on so specific and community clients, when all of a sudden they're not going to work, be worth anything. Number one, number 2, 1361 01:54:26.770 --> 01:54:30.200 1310****690: The and the city has a lot of county properties. 1362 01:54:30.880 --> 01:54:35.589 1310****690: I noticed by a fact, because I own property and boil heights, and there are several properties 1363 01:54:35.680 --> 01:54:37.490 1310****690: that our county 1364 01:54:37.860 --> 01:54:39.260 1310****690: in the city. 1365 01:54:39.430 --> 01:54:49.710 1310****690: and they have not spoken about that number 3. When we had the encampment here in front of the library, there were 2 gentlemen that offered the city 1366 01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:51.120 1310****690: land 1367 01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:56.849 1310****690: to build housing. Why, Aren't, they taking them up on the land? 1368 01:54:57.890 --> 01:55:01.640 1310****690: I we had one man, Mr. Fishbeck. He was on the television. 1369 01:55:01.870 --> 01:55:08.139 and he offered his land that he had. I think he has close to 10 acres up in Malibu. 1370 01:55:08.530 --> 01:55:10.649 1310****690: and he even spoke to the mayor. 1371 01:55:11.240 --> 01:55:27.429 1310****690: Why, aren't they taught taking up private property in which these landlords, or these owners have no use for it at this moment, because of the problems of getting certain services to these, to to these places, which, and 1372 01:55:27.440 --> 01:55:32.810 putting in these projects, then they will bring in. They will bring in the funding in for these projects 1373 01:55:33.230 --> 01:55:45.570 1310****690: 4. The reason they're picking on places like ours like Venice is because we have banks. We have thanks everywhere. If we got in a 40,000 population, we have 15 banks. 1374 01:55:46.460 --> 01:55:52.420 1310****690: Nobody has thought about that. Where there's banks there's going to be funding in for these projects, and for these builders 1375 01:55:52.900 --> 01:55:57.360 1310****690: in boil heights, 80,000 in population. And what do we have? 1376 01:55:57.600 --> 01:55:58.570 6 banks 1377 01:55:58.660 --> 01:55:59.690 1310****690: plus one 1378 01:55:59.710 --> 01:56:01.210 1310****690: credit unions 1379 01:56:01.390 --> 01:56:04.490 when we have more land there that belongs to the county. 1380 01:56:04.770 --> 01:56:10.299 1310****690: I just want you to take in consideration. Why, Aren't, they, using these resources already. 1381 01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:20.579 1310****690: that they that can be used in order to bring up the communities. And probably these these projects that they plan to do could really bring in other 1382 01:56:20.620 --> 01:56:21.620 1310****690: services 1383 01:56:22.170 --> 01:56:24.849 services. We do not have them here. 1384 01:56:25.290 --> 01:56:27.000 1310****690: We can barely support 1385 01:56:27.040 --> 01:56:31.409 ourselves, even waiting lines for getting into hospitals 1386 01:56:31.480 --> 01:56:44.370 1310****690: on the East Side count, and see how many hospitals are available for the population within the county and within East Los Angeles and within the east side. Those are things that have never been brought up. 1387 01:56:44.530 --> 01:56:51.289 We need to take this back to the table. We need to take this back to a real serious conversation, and 1388 01:56:51.610 --> 01:56:55.310 1310****690: and bringing in these projects that they have already 1389 01:56:55.420 --> 01:56:58.380 put our their eye on. That's why Venus 1390 01:56:58.400 --> 01:57:02.669 1310****690: got excluded as a community for the Olympics. 1391 01:57:03.630 --> 01:57:07.099 1310****690: and we need to bring that back because we represent. 1392 01:57:07.470 --> 01:57:08.820 1310****690: we represent 1393 01:57:08.910 --> 01:57:11.039 a a tourist community. 1394 01:57:12.470 --> 01:57:14.639 1310****690: Okay, Thank you very much. 1395 01:57:14.680 --> 01:57:16.029 Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Yolanda. 1396 01:57:18.760 --> 01:57:21.689 Vicki Halliday: Katherine shelters again, for you. 1397 01:57:23.520 --> 01:57:29.019 Catherine Schultis: Can you hear me this time 1398 01:57:29.050 --> 01:57:31.709 Catherine Schultis: long. Time. No, C. Sorry I've been absent. 1399 01:57:34.130 --> 01:57:42.780 Catherine Schultis: So my biggest question outside of the tiny homes is, what is being done to enforce Senate Bills 329, and Senate Bill 3 1400 01:57:42.810 --> 01:57:44.130 Catherine Schultis: yeah, 2 2, 2, 1401 01:57:44.330 --> 01:57:47.169 Catherine Schultis: which cover section 8 protection 1402 01:57:47.250 --> 01:58:01.599 Catherine Schultis: and requires and mandates that all landlords starting in 2,019 must accept a Section 8. Voucher. What are we doing to help Hackler get these people off the street? 1403 01:58:04.300 --> 01:58:08.269 Catherine Schultis: What are we doing with enforcing that? How are we getting these people 1404 01:58:08.780 --> 01:58:21.800 Catherine Schultis: housing that Isn't going to collapse in 6 months to a year? Like many of the temporary band aid programs do. That was one of the biggest struggles that kept myself on the street up until 1405 01:58:22.120 --> 01:58:24.569 Catherine Schultis: this past March. I'll be at a year 1406 01:58:24.770 --> 01:58:29.169 Catherine Schultis: March 30 is. We will have lived here for a year, and our permanent housing. 1407 01:58:29.510 --> 01:58:46.749 Catherine Schultis: Okay, it took 15 years on the street for me to get that voucher because every single HUD office has been closed, because absolutely no one, except for the exclusively built low income buildings except Section 8. 1408 01:58:46.760 --> 01:58:58.810 Catherine Schultis: So when California passed that protection in 2,019. They opened it up to now. Everybody has to take them. Nobody can say you can't live here anymore, because you're poor. 1409 01:58:59.710 --> 01:59:09.609 Catherine Schultis: You have to take those vouchers now. So what are you doing with Enforcement? Besides saying you're poor, You can't live here because we don't want you here because you're poor. 1410 01:59:11.970 --> 01:59:13.260 Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Katherine 1411 01:59:14.830 --> 01:59:17.519 Vicki Halliday: Lisa Redmond. Go ahead, please. 1412 01:59:22.240 --> 01:59:25.710 Lisa Redmond: where to go, Katherine. Good, excellent points. 1413 01:59:25.730 --> 01:59:30.719 Lisa Redmond: I just want to point out that I take offense for a committee member calling me up 1414 01:59:31.330 --> 01:59:47.430 Lisa Redmond: and saying that I was rude to say, what are we doing here tonight? I was very complimentary of Dario's presentation. I thought Doria did a great job. I think he does his research. I think it's very much appreciated. My point is what Vicki was saying. 1415 01:59:47.510 --> 01:59:49.129 Lisa Redmond: and that we 1416 01:59:49.400 --> 01:59:52.070 Lisa Redmond: are kind of feeling like we're wasted our time here. 1417 01:59:52.120 --> 01:59:55.589 Lisa Redmond: so not just Dario's time. But 1418 01:59:55.930 --> 02:00:05.759 Lisa Redmond: all of our time the public's time to committees worth of time. Jim's time for starting to zoom everybody's time when nothing was really drilled down here. 1419 02:00:05.870 --> 02:00:09.429 Lisa Redmond: The same things were said over and over again. 1420 02:00:09.450 --> 02:00:17.439 Lisa Redmond: And you know, where was it? Maybe creative questions, taking advantage of people that maybe know things in bomb spots 1421 02:00:17.460 --> 02:00:18.510 Lisa Redmond: that 1422 02:00:18.830 --> 02:00:33.840 Lisa Redmond: you could take suggestions. What about this place? What about that place? Maybe people know as you along. It says about county properties that could be accessed. Or maybe there's another open, huge lot like the one there on flower near Lincoln that could be considered 1423 02:00:33.910 --> 02:00:35.340 Lisa Redmond: as a private. 1424 02:00:35.360 --> 02:00:38.339 Lisa Redmond: you know. Entity to maybe talk about leasing. 1425 02:00:38.570 --> 02:00:40.139 Lisa Redmond: It's just. 1426 02:00:40.530 --> 02:00:54.900 Lisa Redmond: you know. I wish people were just more appreciative of everybody else's time. And really look at what are we trying to accomplish here? I think this is very valuable, and it is very important research and very well done, and I do appreciate Dario's 1427 02:00:55.250 --> 02:01:09.579 Lisa Redmond: extra curricular time to do this. Maybe, as I suggested last time, this needs to be a joint meeting with several other neighborhood Council, Homelessness Committees and Land Use Committee. Maybe this needs to be taken to rack instead, so it involves 1428 02:01:09.590 --> 02:01:18.060 Lisa Redmond: everybody's participation, so that it all can go to our Council member or the Mayor. At 1 point. Let's just be more 1429 02:01:18.770 --> 02:01:21.560 Lisa Redmond: forward thinking on what our end goals are here. 1430 02:01:21.960 --> 02:01:22.849 Lisa Redmond: Thank you. 1431 02:01:23.310 --> 02:01:24.560 Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Lisa 1432 02:01:24.680 --> 02:01:27.599 Vicki Halliday: Erica Moore. Go ahead, please. 1433 02:01:33.990 --> 02:01:48.159 Erica Moore: Hi, there! I just wanted to acknowledge everybody, because I think the 2 committees that came together for a second time. I think it's really amazing that the lupric committee is here, and that you guys are doing this joint meeting. 1434 02:01:48.450 --> 02:02:01.270 Erica Moore: I am a little disappointed, though, that not more of the members of each committee are present. I really love to see more people who are on the committees be at the meeting each each time that there is a meeting. 1435 02:02:01.290 --> 02:02:11.249 Erica Moore: I also wanted to say that the column called it for Lisa Katherine. You know it's so interesting that you brought those points up because I 1436 02:02:11.340 --> 02:02:15.140 Erica Moore: have interface with several people who have had vouchers 1437 02:02:15.240 --> 02:02:22.890 Erica Moore: and cannot find housing with their vouchers, and it's really really disturbing, that we have programs in place that 1438 02:02:23.020 --> 02:02:30.089 Erica Moore: that afford people to be able to move into something. But they can't even use the bachelor they have, because of other reasons. 1439 02:02:30.110 --> 02:02:34.829 Erica Moore: So I, too, am hoping that some solutions to be found. I think that it's 1440 02:02:34.960 --> 02:02:39.679 Erica Moore: It's it's difficult when you have all these different committees at different cities. 1441 02:02:39.760 --> 02:02:49.150 Erica Moore: and everybody's trying to work on the same thing. But it's kind of fragmented because you have so many different people working on the same thing. And in a way you might have some people recreating a wheel. 1442 02:02:49.290 --> 02:02:50.480 Erica Moore: and I think that 1443 02:02:50.750 --> 02:02:55.819 Erica Moore: I I don't know. I I think that now, because we do have new leadership in our council 1444 02:02:56.130 --> 02:03:04.970 Erica Moore: in our city Council and the Mayor, I mean. Obviously, they have a lot of people who are investigating a lot of information and have a lot of boots on the ground. I think that somehow they can. 1445 02:03:05.000 --> 02:03:06.379 Erica Moore: We can partner 1446 02:03:06.710 --> 02:03:19.489 Erica Moore: with other neighborhood councils, and with the the powers that we in our Council member, and where it might be helpful, because there might be more resources at Darius's work could could be brought there. 1447 02:03:19.510 --> 02:03:22.789 Erica Moore: and possibly embellished on or 1448 02:03:22.850 --> 02:03:28.530 Erica Moore: other information to be gathered together with it. So I don't know that's what I have to say. Thanks so much, you guys for your service. 1449 02:03:28.560 --> 02:03:29.929 Vicki Halliday: Thanks, Erica. 1450 02:03:30.210 --> 02:03:33.959 Vicki Halliday: Last speaker is Kalani Kalani. Go ahead, please. 1451 02:03:34.700 --> 02:03:45.490 Kalani W: Hey? There I did take issue with what one thing Dario mentioned that he found that large projects are ineffective. 1452 02:03:45.540 --> 02:03:51.969 Kalani W: Well, we've come a long way since Cabrini Green. I'm. Sure many of you are familiar with that 1453 02:03:52.060 --> 02:04:07.939 Kalani W: project that was notorious. Back in the day we've made strides in managing larger buildings. We've also made strides with mental health care. We no longer have the nurse Ratchet and Ku Kunes 1454 02:04:07.950 --> 02:04:20.780 Kalani W: type of mental health care that we had. So we've progressed, and we can manage the larger building by whole. Having effective management companies manage those buildings 1455 02:04:20.790 --> 02:04:33.440 Kalani W: and full transparency and our continuous audits to ensure that the building. These large projects maintain civility. I, a marvelous to gardens 1456 02:04:33.450 --> 02:04:49.350 Kalani W: is is not an eyesore. Yes, they do have a higher crime rate than than most areas on the West side, but it is still a livable community. So I push back against, you know, having the 1457 02:04:49.420 --> 02:04:55.080 Kalani W: having this Year's Sears vacant Sears Building or County Usc. 1458 02:04:55.480 --> 02:05:02.059 Kalani W: Thought of as serious options, because that could house tens of thousands of people 1459 02:05:02.420 --> 02:05:04.180 Kalani W: within 6 months 1460 02:05:04.500 --> 02:05:07.869 Kalani W: you could get them off the streets into beds. 1461 02:05:08.060 --> 02:05:14.269 Kalani W: and that if that is our priority, we should take advantage of that. 1462 02:05:14.380 --> 02:05:15.230 Kalani W: I 1463 02:05:15.660 --> 02:05:17.150 Kalani W: I moved here. 1464 02:05:17.310 --> 02:05:18.179 Kalani W: Okay. 1465 02:05:18.260 --> 02:05:19.209 Vicki Halliday: Thank you. 1466 02:05:20.100 --> 02:05:22.880 Vicki Halliday: Noreen amid. 1467 02:05:27.390 --> 02:05:28.549 Vicki Halliday: Go ahead. No, Re. 1468 02:05:29.700 --> 02:05:37.070 Noreen Ahmed: Hi. How's it going? Yeah. Started a little late, but I I I just wanted to just express 1469 02:05:37.130 --> 02:05:46.759 Noreen Ahmed: something that Lisa had said just about connecting with other groups. I think, is really really important right now, and figuring that out, and i'm and another piece to that as well, is 1470 02:05:46.820 --> 02:05:55.649 Noreen Ahmed: really figuring out. I i'd mentioned this in a a previous call, but just making sure to connect with people who are experiencing this directly, because 1471 02:05:56.570 --> 02:06:03.799 Noreen Ahmed: what's happening for them is like, there's as severe as it's feeling, and it's exhausted as i'm hearing everybody on this call sound like 1472 02:06:04.100 --> 02:06:19.069 Noreen Ahmed: because of it, it's it's another level for what's happening for people who are directly being impacted right now, and their voices aren't being heard in this and that's really what a Neighborhood Council is supposed to be about. This is the most micro level of government. 1473 02:06:19.180 --> 02:06:24.550 Noreen Ahmed: So it's supposed to be connecting to people who don't have a voice and that's still not happening here. 1474 02:06:24.640 --> 02:06:34.530 Noreen Ahmed: and if it's able to do that. Then it's going to be able to connect on a greater skill to what is happening at a City council level at a State level, and it 1475 02:06:34.660 --> 02:06:52.379 Noreen Ahmed: really a national level. But it's it's figuring out how to connect those people, because what's happening at the Bridge home, what's happening at a lot of encampments is something that's a level of safety that doesn't Compare to what people are talking about, what's happening to them in their homes. That's a different level of safety than what's happening to people who. 1476 02:06:52.430 --> 02:06:56.689 Noreen Ahmed: walking down the street is a whole nother experience of terror. 1477 02:06:56.800 --> 02:07:07.389 Noreen Ahmed: And so I just I really want to like. I know it's something that needs to be figured out. But this format is not going to work to get to their voices. It's figuring out another way, and that's the only thing that's gonna 1478 02:07:07.510 --> 02:07:09.309 Noreen Ahmed: really connect this to 1479 02:07:10.460 --> 02:07:30.430 Noreen Ahmed: have it be her have people who are who are prioritizing them, because what happens with moving people out of these out of encampments right now they're going to place. But the same thing is it's repeating it's a cycle of putting people into a situation where their voices like. They're explaining how severe it is. Why they're leaving it, but it's not being heard. So 1480 02:07:30.440 --> 02:07:36.030 Noreen Ahmed: yeah, i'm that wasn't very articulate. But I I just want to just express the importance of of 1481 02:07:36.330 --> 02:07:41.010 Noreen Ahmed: figuring out how to reach more vulnerable people who are in these situations. Thanks. 1482 02:07:41.160 --> 02:07:42.260 Vicki Halliday: Thank you All right. 1483 02:07:42.310 --> 02:07:44.999 Vicki Halliday: That's the end public comment, Frank. 1484 02:07:46.110 --> 02:07:49.639 frank murphy: All right. So 1485 02:07:52.810 --> 02:07:54.700 the 1486 02:07:55.750 --> 02:08:09.879 frank murphy: we can go into public comment on non-agenda. Items. So we seem to cover quite a few of those in that. Oh, here we go. You open to that. Okay, Here we go on non-agendized items. 1487 02:08:10.450 --> 02:08:16.009 frank murphy: Lisa Robbins, please go ahead. 1488 02:08:16.340 --> 02:08:18.299 frank murphy: Alright, hey, Can you hear me? 1489 02:08:18.410 --> 02:08:23.129 lisarobins: It's been a great meeting for the part of it that I've been to. 1490 02:08:24.730 --> 02:08:29.830 lisarobins: I love particularly the part they're talking about creating community and hearing all the voices. 1491 02:08:30.280 --> 02:08:37.329 lisarobins: So I i'm I wanted to speak. I live very close to the new Spy development 1492 02:08:37.530 --> 02:08:40.030 lisarobins: that's on Lincoln and Garfield 1493 02:08:41.230 --> 02:08:59.080 lisarobins: and i'm. Kind of i'm. I'm. Calling for 2 reasons. One is that I would like to invite the community to welcome our new residents into the community, and to try to find some way to integrate this development, which is far larger than most developments that we've seen. 1494 02:09:00.550 --> 02:09:05.069 lisarobins: you know, and I know there's a lot of mixed feelings about it in our community. 1495 02:09:05.200 --> 02:09:09.790 lisarobins: So I just wanted to throw that out there. It's in the middle of being developed. 1496 02:09:09.920 --> 02:09:19.109 lisarobins: So that's number one. Number 2 is my gripe, which is that this has been passed with like 0 parking. 1497 02:09:19.640 --> 02:09:34.690 lisarobins: and already, during the development of the building, it's been a complete change on on our block as far as parking goes, and to see if there's any, what I can do as a private citizen, and to with my neighbors 1498 02:09:34.700 --> 02:09:41.740 lisarobins: to appeal to this decision, to create Absolutely no parking in this in this development. 1499 02:09:43.730 --> 02:09:44.949 Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Lisa. 1500 02:09:45.910 --> 02:09:47.780 Vicki Halliday: Come on in. 1501 02:09:47.940 --> 02:09:49.130 Vicki Halliday: Go ahead, please. 1502 02:09:50.400 --> 02:09:54.099 Kalani W: Yes. Last night I sat in on another neighborhood council meeting. 1503 02:09:54.110 --> 02:10:21.630 Kalani W: where an entire affordable housing building was being proposed on Venice, and to our surprise, to everyone's surprise, after a little digging, we found that the zoning had no height restrictions. So be careful what you're asking for all of these parcels that you're looking at. You Better check on height restrictions, otherwise you could end up with a 10 or 20 story building sticking out in Venice. 1504 02:10:21.640 --> 02:10:22.610 Kalani W: Thank you. 1505 02:10:24.970 --> 02:10:26.840 frank murphy: And that wraps up the 1506 02:10:26.860 --> 02:10:27.730 frank murphy: is that 1507 02:10:29.020 --> 02:10:31.820 frank murphy: that wraps up the 1508 02:10:32.140 --> 02:10:33.370 frank murphy: public comment. 1509 02:10:33.560 --> 02:10:38.419 frank murphy: So we have committee comments on items, not on the agenda. 1510 02:10:38.730 --> 02:10:41.230 Does anybody have any 1511 02:10:41.300 --> 02:10:44.570 frank murphy: stan you got your hand up? 1512 02:10:48.900 --> 02:10:54.769 frank murphy: No, sir, I no, it's not. I don't I don't have any 1513 02:10:55.980 --> 02:10:58.390 frank murphy: anything they want to bring up. 1514 02:10:59.020 --> 02:11:03.350 Vicki Halliday: Liz wants to say something, I believe. Let me 1515 02:11:04.530 --> 02:11:05.749 Vicki Halliday: There you go, Liz. 1516 02:11:12.870 --> 02:11:14.279 1310****895: Thank you very much. 1517 02:11:16.290 --> 02:11:20.709 1310****895: I think the meeting would have been met better if we followed the agenda. 1518 02:11:21.540 --> 02:11:23.690 1310****895: because my concern is 1519 02:11:23.980 --> 02:11:25.730 1310****895: that Vicki is. 1520 02:11:27.240 --> 02:11:28.049 1310****895: I see. 1521 02:11:28.250 --> 02:11:30.390 1310****895: is going to select sites. 1522 02:11:31.520 --> 02:11:35.530 1310****895: and we will have no effect whatsoever, because we never considered it. 1523 02:11:37.740 --> 02:11:39.660 1310****895: We we have got to. 1524 02:11:39.950 --> 02:11:41.260 1310****895: These are influence. 1525 02:11:41.630 --> 02:11:44.069 1310****895: or say we're we're not going to influence. 1526 02:11:45.010 --> 02:11:45.980 1310****895: Okay. 1527 02:11:46.140 --> 02:11:47.669 1310****895: I don't know if that's clear. 1528 02:11:49.680 --> 02:11:50.929 frank murphy: That's clear. 1529 02:11:56.870 --> 02:11:58.380 frank murphy: Okay, Pat. 1530 02:11:59.140 --> 02:12:03.319 PatRaphael: All right. I I mentioned this before the meeting. Start to some of the people 1531 02:12:03.410 --> 02:12:06.919 PatRaphael: hanging out the as we're waiting to get started. 1532 02:12:06.960 --> 02:12:09.200 PatRaphael: But I wanted to put it on the record 1533 02:12:09.240 --> 02:12:10.000 PatRaphael: that 1534 02:12:11.750 --> 02:12:15.110 PatRaphael: people are dying out here, right there, there's a there's a 1535 02:12:15.170 --> 02:12:20.619 PatRaphael: a gentleman by the name of Chris that died on the border wall this week. 1536 02:12:20.750 --> 02:12:22.070 He's 1537 02:12:22.110 --> 02:12:26.209 PatRaphael: been out here homeless, probably for as long as I've been here 1538 02:12:26.280 --> 02:12:27.690 PatRaphael: in 1539 02:12:27.780 --> 02:12:30.750 PatRaphael: you know it, it seems like he just kind of 1540 02:12:31.040 --> 02:12:31.780 PatRaphael: oh. 1541 02:12:31.820 --> 02:12:34.090 PatRaphael: hypothermia and a heart attack. 1542 02:12:34.290 --> 02:12:35.480 So 1543 02:12:35.730 --> 02:12:40.450 PatRaphael: I I really want to remind us that you know this is not just 1544 02:12:40.580 --> 02:12:42.690 PatRaphael: theory, or it's not just 1545 02:12:43.950 --> 02:12:48.650 PatRaphael: a conversation for people who are in the middle of this. 1546 02:12:48.670 --> 02:12:53.929 PatRaphael: and what we can do to to to intervene in a positive way 1547 02:12:54.130 --> 02:12:56.050 PatRaphael: is is 1548 02:12:56.730 --> 02:12:58.010 PatRaphael: still available. 1549 02:12:58.290 --> 02:13:02.159 PatRaphael: If we kind of can get in one mind to to remember Why. 1550 02:13:06.700 --> 02:13:07.870 frank murphy: okay, Pat 1551 02:13:08.370 --> 02:13:10.070 frank murphy: Jodi. 1552 02:13:13.470 --> 02:13:14.259 Jody Mortimer: Thank you. Correct. 1553 02:13:14.440 --> 02:13:23.710 Jody Mortimer: It just wanted to do that. Shout out to Katherine. It is so great to hear you back, and that you've been housed for. I I didn't 1554 02:13:23.940 --> 02:13:29.969 Jody Mortimer: for a little while now. And the funny question, what is it? Somewhere here in Venice? Are you in District 11? 1555 02:13:30.070 --> 02:13:34.119 Jody Mortimer: And but again congratulation was that a bash which is a Va. 1556 02:13:34.180 --> 02:13:36.130 Jody Mortimer: Subsidize housing 1557 02:13:36.390 --> 02:13:39.010 Jody Mortimer: to the to the 1558 02:13:39.130 --> 02:13:40.290 Jody Mortimer: the woman that 1559 02:13:40.480 --> 02:13:44.930 Jody Mortimer: had the spy comment and the parking, I thought that was a well 1560 02:13:45.330 --> 02:13:51.340 Jody Mortimer: thought out and and put together. Question for for this committee. That was something that we should look at. 1561 02:13:51.480 --> 02:13:52.750 Thank you. 1562 02:13:55.250 --> 02:14:02.409 frank murphy: Okay, folks, that's that's all of the comments that we have put his hand back up. 1563 02:14:03.410 --> 02:14:07.469 frank murphy: No, I stand. You have your hand up. 1564 02:14:08.790 --> 02:14:09.950 Ansar Muhammad: No, I don't. 1565 02:14:12.890 --> 02:14:13.929 frank murphy: Okay. 1566 02:14:13.960 --> 02:14:17.070 frank murphy: So I think we 1567 02:14:18.420 --> 02:14:27.310 frank murphy: we should adjourn. I. I do apologize for putting the Committee members. Q. A. In front of the public. Q. A. 1568 02:14:27.420 --> 02:14:30.619 frank murphy: And I I apologize for that 1569 02:14:30.650 --> 02:14:31.750 frank murphy: so? 1570 02:14:32.500 --> 02:14:34.000 frank murphy: But 1571 02:14:34.660 --> 02:14:38.710 frank murphy: thank you very much, and I go to adjourn. 1572 02:14:39.710 --> 02:14:41.019 Vicki Halliday: Thanks, everybody. 1573 02:14:41.160 --> 02:14:42.699 frank murphy: Thanks, everybody. 1574 02:14:42.740 --> 02:14:44.369 frank murphy: Good night. 1575 02:14:45.430 --> 02:14:49.639 Brian U: Thanks. 1576 02:14:50.060 --> 02:14:53.489 C Bailey: Thanks, Vicki. Stay safe.