WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.390 --> 00:00:06.250 Yeah. 2 00:00:14.490 --> 00:00:16.329 the ticket for the travel weeks. But 3 00:00:16.370 --> 00:00:17.970 Vicki Halliday: what's the 4 00:00:18.080 --> 00:00:20.550 Vicki Halliday: and David the next one? They service in the bay area 5 00:00:20.570 --> 00:00:22.740 Vicki Halliday: and there's very strong language, saying 6 00:00:51.540 --> 00:00:52.850 Vicki Halliday: agreed to be returned to 7 00:00:53.580 --> 00:00:54.459 Vicki Halliday: we on the flight. 8 00:00:54.550 --> 00:00:55.350 Vicki Halliday: Exactly. 9 00:00:55.440 --> 00:00:56.920 It's a 10 00:00:59.480 --> 00:01:12.710 Vicki Halliday: and in the the and his father, during one of 2 in May December during the 2,500 mile phone in his white on the Alantra. 11 00:01:12.800 --> 00:01:14.979 Vicki Halliday: There's one we're too, waiting for. 12 00:01:15.710 --> 00:01:16.330 Vicki Halliday: Yeah. 13 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:23.849 Vicki Halliday: if you are the crime scene for weeks tonight. They say that. 14 00:01:41.440 --> 00:01:47.420 Vicki Halliday: Hi, everybody. I'm just trying to eat a quick dinner, so i'll be there shortly. I I want for people to come in. 15 00:01:52.130 --> 00:01:57.820 PatRaphael: I'm going to leave and come back so I can try to make the sound go through my speaker instead of the 16 00:01:58.230 --> 00:02:00.509 PatRaphael: the device. So 17 00:02:00.600 --> 00:02:02.389 PatRaphael: please let me back in. 18 00:02:42.720 --> 00:02:44.420 Elizabeth Wright: Did Pat disappear? 19 00:02:45.230 --> 00:02:48.170 Vicki Halliday: Jenny was to find something to come back 20 00:03:20.640 --> 00:03:24.090 Vicki Halliday: just watching the news. It was a pretty historic day in the house. 21 00:03:48.550 --> 00:03:49.410 Vicki Halliday: Hey, Frank. 22 00:03:52.480 --> 00:03:53.700 Vicki Halliday: you're muted. 23 00:03:56.720 --> 00:03:58.629 Elizabeth Wright: Frank. You have to do mute. 24 00:04:00.150 --> 00:04:01.180 Elizabeth Wright: unmute. 25 00:04:01.290 --> 00:04:02.310 Elizabeth Wright: They mute. 26 00:04:04.220 --> 00:04:05.539 Vicki Halliday: but it got a haircut. 27 00:04:06.340 --> 00:04:08.020 frank murphy: Here you go. 28 00:04:08.370 --> 00:04:10.590 frank murphy: I got scalped. 29 00:04:13.990 --> 00:04:16.840 Elizabeth Wright: Are you actually talking because you're not coming through. 30 00:04:18.890 --> 00:04:20.260 frank murphy: I'm talking 31 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:21.950 Elizabeth Wright: no sound. 32 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:23.410 Vicki Halliday: I can hear him. 33 00:04:23.750 --> 00:04:26.699 Elizabeth Wright: Liz. I can hear him, or maybe maybe it's me. 34 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:31.299 frank murphy: Well, now you've got me on leave and join. 35 00:04:33.760 --> 00:04:35.079 frank murphy: But 36 00:04:36.020 --> 00:04:37.750 frank murphy: should I even join? 37 00:04:38.900 --> 00:04:40.080 Vicki Halliday: Yeah, yeah. 38 00:04:40.990 --> 00:04:41.920 frank murphy: All right. 39 00:05:03.880 --> 00:05:09.479 frank murphy: I hope. My, Can you hear me now? Yeah, I can hear you now it helps if I turn the speaker on 40 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:15.740 frank murphy: All right. All right. 41 00:05:18.490 --> 00:05:19.960 frank murphy: My 42 00:05:20.820 --> 00:05:22.140 frank murphy: my! 43 00:05:22.980 --> 00:05:32.060 frank murphy: I hope my camera doesn't go out. I supposedly had it fixed so. But i'm hoping, you know, across my fingers. 44 00:05:32.460 --> 00:05:38.009 frank murphy: we'll see. But now, my mouse doesn't work. So there you go. 45 00:05:38.910 --> 00:05:41.309 frank murphy: One thing down another thing up. 46 00:05:41.980 --> 00:05:44.439 Vicki Halliday: You and Clark use the same it, Guy. 47 00:05:49.010 --> 00:05:50.420 frank murphy: Oh, God. 48 00:05:51.610 --> 00:05:57.859 frank murphy: yeah, I would probably just as you know. It might might 49 00:05:59.630 --> 00:06:01.179 frank murphy: just hit him up 50 00:06:01.580 --> 00:06:05.579 frank murphy: when we have something, and just in case he can't get through. 51 00:06:11.300 --> 00:06:13.609 Vicki Halliday: Well, he always wants to be promoted. 52 00:06:14.280 --> 00:06:20.790 frank murphy: Yeah, but I I told them we wouldn't do that, but that we would that we would, you know. 53 00:06:24.010 --> 00:06:33.409 frank murphy: get in touch with them, maybe. you know I ask him if he wants to speak to an issue and just bring him up. Okay. 54 00:06:34.970 --> 00:06:37.760 frank murphy: I think that she's easy enough to do. 55 00:06:38.090 --> 00:06:40.440 Vicki Halliday: Yeah, he can text one of us, too. 56 00:06:41.520 --> 00:06:47.919 frank murphy: That's true. That's well. I don't know, because my text never go through to Clark. 57 00:06:48.730 --> 00:06:55.979 frank murphy: so i'm not sure he actually has a phone. That over which that will receive the text. I don't know what's wrong with my tongue. 58 00:07:00.080 --> 00:07:01.550 frank murphy: but 59 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:07.250 frank murphy: too many tongue twisters 60 00:07:07.280 --> 00:07:08.780 frank murphy: too much coffee. 61 00:07:09.500 --> 00:07:13.179 frank murphy: Oh, man, how did everybody's holidays go. 62 00:07:14.850 --> 00:07:16.170 Elizabeth Wright: Mine were great. 63 00:07:17.400 --> 00:07:19.150 frank murphy: and i'm telling you, Liz. 64 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:20.449 Vicki Halliday: good for you. 65 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:25.039 frank murphy: You're living the good life. 66 00:07:25.350 --> 00:07:27.409 Elizabeth Wright: Yes, I am. 67 00:07:29.260 --> 00:07:31.110 frank murphy: Yeah, that's great. 68 00:07:32.460 --> 00:07:33.840 frank murphy: That's great. 69 00:07:35.380 --> 00:07:37.929 Elizabeth Wright: I I belong to a group, and they 70 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:40.030 Elizabeth Wright: send emails around 71 00:07:40.260 --> 00:07:43.140 Elizabeth Wright: and around New Years. It was. 72 00:07:43.370 --> 00:07:47.950 Elizabeth Wright: you know, good wishes and all that kind of stuff. And don't. We always do this 73 00:07:48.700 --> 00:07:49.580 Elizabeth Wright: and 74 00:07:50.200 --> 00:07:51.640 Elizabeth Wright: low, and behold. 75 00:07:52.090 --> 00:07:54.119 Elizabeth Wright: my contribution. Was I 76 00:07:54.930 --> 00:07:57.140 Elizabeth Wright: 1? One of them was 77 00:08:00.430 --> 00:08:02.850 Elizabeth Wright: for resolutions of 78 00:08:03.790 --> 00:08:04.780 Elizabeth Wright: not 79 00:08:06.220 --> 00:08:10.399 Elizabeth Wright: eating suites, and not doing all of that, you know. 80 00:08:10.420 --> 00:08:15.359 Elizabeth Wright: as as a New Year's resolution and losing weight and doing lots of exercise. 81 00:08:16.010 --> 00:08:18.770 Elizabeth Wright: But then, on second thought, nobody likes a quitter. 82 00:08:21.180 --> 00:08:22.220 frank murphy: Yeah. 83 00:08:23.020 --> 00:08:27.150 Elizabeth Wright: And I had to confess that that I did quit something 84 00:08:27.690 --> 00:08:31.419 Elizabeth Wright: in the days of my misman youth it used to be. 85 00:08:31.540 --> 00:08:35.330 Elizabeth Wright: Here's to a year of another another year of self-destruction. 86 00:08:35.429 --> 00:08:38.590 frank murphy: Yes, and now it's 87 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:45.959 Elizabeth Wright: here's to another year, boy. I sure am Grateful i've got another year right? Exactly. 88 00:08:46.680 --> 00:08:49.779 frank murphy: It's very funny. Yeah, yeah. 89 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:56.530 frank murphy: Oh, man. 90 00:08:58.980 --> 00:09:03.140 frank murphy: hey? Jim, Looks like Vicki started the meeting already. I did. 91 00:09:03.160 --> 00:09:11.330 jim murez: Yeah, so it's it's asking me if I want to reclaim Host, i'm gonna say no and let you just go ahead. Okay, Thank you, Jim. 92 00:09:12.650 --> 00:09:13.980 jim murez: How do I know. 93 00:09:17.430 --> 00:09:19.380 jim murez: By the way, Happy New Year at all? 94 00:09:19.400 --> 00:09:21.640 frank murphy: Yeah, Happy New Year to you 95 00:09:34.260 --> 00:09:36.940 Elizabeth Wright: of anybody is following the house. 96 00:09:37.100 --> 00:09:41.960 Elizabeth Wright: Jeffrey's was just unanimously elected, unanimously 97 00:09:42.920 --> 00:09:45.850 Elizabeth Wright: elected to be the leader of the caucus. 98 00:09:45.940 --> 00:09:51.039 Vicki Halliday: I know I I it's what a great day in the house! It was chaotic, but it 99 00:09:51.370 --> 00:09:52.530 Vicki Halliday: it's worked out 100 00:09:53.470 --> 00:09:58.689 Elizabeth Wright: 3 votes, and they now have hundreds of boxes of pizza to carry them through the night. 101 00:10:00.460 --> 00:10:03.639 Vicki Halliday: I just want Santos to like crawl in a hole somewhere 102 00:10:05.370 --> 00:10:09.959 Elizabeth Wright: there. There was a photograph of him sitting all by himself. 103 00:10:10.410 --> 00:10:11.090 Vicki Halliday: Yeah. 104 00:10:12.350 --> 00:10:15.180 Elizabeth Wright: I don't think anyone wants to be associated. 105 00:10:18.620 --> 00:10:20.740 Vicki Halliday: No, I think he's 106 00:10:20.800 --> 00:10:22.430 Vicki Halliday: It's pretty done for. 107 00:10:25.380 --> 00:10:31.189 frank murphy: Oh, Who are you talking about? 108 00:10:31.590 --> 00:10:33.969 frank murphy: Oh, Santos, yeah, I think he 109 00:10:34.110 --> 00:10:36.870 frank murphy: he overplayed that card. 110 00:10:37.070 --> 00:10:38.789 frank murphy: Yeah, this guy. 111 00:10:41.420 --> 00:10:45.470 PatRaphael: Sorry, guys. I'm having a little hard time figuring out how to 112 00:10:45.810 --> 00:10:48.129 PatRaphael: make the speaker work 113 00:10:48.430 --> 00:10:49.700 PatRaphael: rather than 114 00:10:49.790 --> 00:10:51.350 speaker from the device. 115 00:10:51.590 --> 00:10:53.640 PatRaphael: Does anybody know how to do that? 116 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:56.689 frank murphy: You're working right now? Can you hear us? 117 00:10:57.130 --> 00:10:58.999 PatRaphael: no, no, i'm saying 118 00:10:59.260 --> 00:11:02.060 PatRaphael: before, when I used to have it on my laptop. 119 00:11:02.140 --> 00:11:05.860 PatRaphael: It used to give you the option to play the meeting through the bluetooth. 120 00:11:06.660 --> 00:11:10.319 PatRaphael: and now it's only giving me the option to play it through the 121 00:11:10.790 --> 00:11:12.180 PatRaphael: to the device. 122 00:11:13.280 --> 00:11:19.599 frank murphy: Oh, I I don't know. I don't know it. I'd have to. 123 00:11:19.700 --> 00:11:26.040 PatRaphael: That's why I kept on like kicking me out. I've been missing with all the buttons and trying to figure out what's going on. 124 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:30.090 frank murphy: Just keep pushing buttons till it works. 125 00:11:31.220 --> 00:11:34.130 PatRaphael: Yeah, they made it more intuitive. 126 00:11:41.880 --> 00:11:43.010 PatRaphael: Let's see. 127 00:11:44.740 --> 00:11:45.740 PatRaphael: So good. 128 00:11:45.950 --> 00:11:47.710 PatRaphael: Yeah, I I 129 00:11:47.920 --> 00:11:48.570 Today 130 00:11:52.900 --> 00:11:57.900 Elizabeth Wright: I don't know. I usually see that screen where you get all of the options before 131 00:11:58.250 --> 00:11:59.909 Elizabeth Wright: you're logged on. 132 00:12:02.880 --> 00:12:08.020 Elizabeth Wright: That's that's where it gives you those kind of choices where it lets you 133 00:12:08.780 --> 00:12:12.300 PatRaphael: but it i'm i'm using the app on a tablet. 134 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:17.949 Elizabeth Wright: and it didn't give me that as an option. It 135 00:12:18.420 --> 00:12:19.700 Elizabeth Wright: Tablets are 136 00:12:20.070 --> 00:12:20.890 Elizabeth Wright: special. 137 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:25.589 PatRaphael: They are a little different. 138 00:12:25.730 --> 00:12:27.560 Elizabeth Wright: You're looking good this year. 139 00:12:30.180 --> 00:12:32.210 Elizabeth Wright: I'll make it sh on your face 140 00:12:33.300 --> 00:12:35.260 Elizabeth Wright: so we can see these files. 141 00:12:35.460 --> 00:12:36.620 Elizabeth Wright: Yeah. 142 00:12:37.180 --> 00:12:38.640 PatRaphael: it is still right. 143 00:12:40.540 --> 00:12:43.199 Elizabeth Wright: Well, at least a little bit on your face. 144 00:12:44.430 --> 00:12:45.420 frank murphy: Brian. 145 00:12:46.540 --> 00:12:49.090 frank murphy: You able to join us. 146 00:12:50.350 --> 00:12:53.050 frank murphy: Okay, no problem. 147 00:12:53.450 --> 00:12:55.820 frank murphy: It's not a problem. Take care, bye. 148 00:13:04.280 --> 00:13:04.940 this one 149 00:13:21.890 --> 00:13:24.649 PatRaphael: the I'm. Next to state 150 00:13:25.110 --> 00:13:26.440 Jody Mortimer: good to you, Dean. 151 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:30.979 Jody Mortimer: i'm just my wife. 152 00:13:32.550 --> 00:13:35.090 frank murphy: Hey, Jodie. 153 00:13:36.370 --> 00:13:39.820 Vicki Halliday: right? Would you let people in? I'm going to be gone for one. 154 00:13:46.570 --> 00:13:47.890 Jody Mortimer: Did you want to try? And 155 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:49.370 Jody Mortimer: there we go? 156 00:13:56.070 --> 00:13:58.720 Jody Mortimer: I want to try different backgrounds. 157 00:13:59.930 --> 00:14:01.119 Jody Mortimer: and i'm mute myself. 158 00:14:21.430 --> 00:14:22.869 frank murphy: Oh, maybe I me! 159 00:15:50.630 --> 00:15:55.989 frank murphy: Did. You see if the minutes were posted on that last meeting? 160 00:15:56.230 --> 00:15:58.430 frank murphy: I don't want to call If I saw that 161 00:16:02.010 --> 00:16:07.219 Vicki Halliday: for the 1120. Yeah, they were right. Remember I told you they were 2,023. 162 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:14.649 frank murphy: No, the the minutes from the meeting before the 1129 meeting. Oh, I didn't check. 163 00:16:14.770 --> 00:16:16.310 frank murphy: Yeah, I did. I 164 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:19.980 Vicki Halliday: let me look. 165 00:16:20.940 --> 00:16:22.480 frank murphy: I know. 166 00:16:22.590 --> 00:16:24.650 Elizabeth Wright: they were not part of the calendar 167 00:16:25.620 --> 00:16:26.680 frank murphy: They work. 168 00:16:27.060 --> 00:16:28.030 Yeah. 169 00:16:38.270 --> 00:16:39.450 frank murphy: Oh, Stan. 170 00:16:40.550 --> 00:16:41.540 Ansar Muhammad: Yes. 171 00:16:42.220 --> 00:16:44.110 frank murphy: hey, man, how you doing 172 00:16:44.420 --> 00:16:45.880 Ansar Muhammad: good? Well, I've been 173 00:16:54.300 --> 00:16:55.520 frank murphy: yeah. 174 00:16:59.850 --> 00:17:02.030 frank murphy: Well, you don't look a year older. 175 00:17:02.490 --> 00:17:04.269 Ansar Muhammad: I think i'm back on me 176 00:17:04.530 --> 00:17:08.030 Ansar Muhammad: about £15. 177 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:11.339 Ansar Muhammad: I'll be all right. 178 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:15.140 frank murphy: Oh, yeah. 179 00:17:16.790 --> 00:17:21.820 Ansar Muhammad: you got to get back. I got to give you the 180 00:17:21.859 --> 00:17:24.950 frank murphy: do that. Do They do the walking. 181 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:30.459 Jody Mortimer: So what can we use to do. Yeah, I got to get back to that man. 182 00:17:31.900 --> 00:17:34.710 frank murphy: It's hard to keep it up. 183 00:17:35.170 --> 00:17:36.370 Ansar Muhammad: You have it. 184 00:17:38.740 --> 00:17:39.750 I 185 00:17:41.060 --> 00:17:45.729 frank murphy: especially with as much driving around you do it's hard to get a rhythm. 186 00:17:47.910 --> 00:17:48.850 Yeah. 187 00:17:50.390 --> 00:17:52.750 Jody Mortimer: Can you please give me some 188 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:54.110 Jody Mortimer: What? 189 00:18:00.220 --> 00:18:01.390 Elizabeth Wright: Hi stand? 190 00:18:01.780 --> 00:18:04.179 Ansar Muhammad: Hey, Elizabeth, how are you doing? 191 00:18:05.120 --> 00:18:06.640 Elizabeth Wright: Wonderful year? 192 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:09.379 Ansar Muhammad: So far it is perfect. 193 00:18:09.950 --> 00:18:15.620 Ansar Muhammad: Yeah, we woke up and we able to smell the fresh air, you know. Look at the sun again. 194 00:18:17.250 --> 00:18:18.780 frank murphy: ain't that the truth? 195 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:19.910 Ansar Muhammad: Yeah. 196 00:18:32.360 --> 00:18:37.909 Jody Mortimer: hey, Stan, did you hear about the police shooting with the guy in distress? The mother called 197 00:18:38.350 --> 00:18:44.409 Jody Mortimer: for some help from la a meeting, and 198 00:18:45.500 --> 00:18:50.270 Ansar Muhammad: I didn't hear about that I did hear about Karen. 199 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:56.229 Jody Mortimer: Yeah, they it's the the mother just spoke out today. She was just, I think it just a day or 2 ago 200 00:18:56.440 --> 00:18:59.789 Jody Mortimer: she called the police to come out and help her son. 201 00:19:01.750 --> 00:19:05.480 Jody Mortimer: Is that what it's adopted for the 202 00:19:06.060 --> 00:19:08.220 Vicki Halliday: Jody? Is that the one in Santa Monica? 203 00:19:08.810 --> 00:19:10.340 Jody Mortimer: Probably as you have. 204 00:19:10.390 --> 00:19:12.450 Jody Mortimer: Yeah, that was a bad situation 205 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:15.039 the first time. 206 00:19:17.840 --> 00:19:19.749 frank murphy: Well, it looks like we're 207 00:19:22.270 --> 00:19:25.150 frank murphy: we can get started here a call to order 208 00:19:29.970 --> 00:19:34.109 Vicki Halliday: stan at Mike Ridley. Is that your mic? 209 00:19:37.070 --> 00:19:38.450 Vicki Halliday: Should I promote him? 210 00:19:40.100 --> 00:19:41.800 frank murphy: It looks like it. Yeah. 211 00:19:43.490 --> 00:19:46.069 Vicki Halliday: Stan. Is that Mike Ridley, your Mikey? 212 00:19:46.840 --> 00:19:49.789 Ansar Muhammad: With this Mike Ridley. Yes. 213 00:19:50.110 --> 00:19:55.299 Vicki Halliday: okay. I'll promote both the out, the and my 214 00:19:55.320 --> 00:19:57.459 Vicki Halliday: Okay. Got it perfect. 215 00:20:02.170 --> 00:20:03.390 frank murphy: All right. 216 00:20:07.470 --> 00:20:11.760 frank murphy: Okay. So we'll call the order. Do the roll call here. 217 00:20:13.850 --> 00:20:16.440 frank murphy: i'm here Brian 218 00:20:16.700 --> 00:20:17.560 Brian U: Here 219 00:20:19.170 --> 00:20:21.880 frank murphy: Colette is not here yet. 220 00:20:22.370 --> 00:20:23.250 frank murphy: Pat. 221 00:20:23.500 --> 00:20:24.599 PatRaphael: I'm here. 222 00:20:25.320 --> 00:20:27.070 frank murphy: Vicki here 223 00:20:27.540 --> 00:20:28.729 frank murphy: there is 224 00:20:28.870 --> 00:20:29.730 Jody Mortimer: there 225 00:20:30.470 --> 00:20:31.660 frank murphy: stan 226 00:20:31.910 --> 00:20:32.760 Ansar Muhammad: sure 227 00:20:37.170 --> 00:20:38.280 Jody Mortimer: here. 228 00:20:38.360 --> 00:20:39.600 frank murphy: all right. 229 00:20:40.950 --> 00:20:43.049 frank murphy: So we have 230 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:45.769 frank murphy: almost the full crew. 231 00:20:49.100 --> 00:20:57.710 frank murphy: I don't know if I if the minutes got posted properly or not, I so we'll have to take those minutes up at the next 232 00:20:57.930 --> 00:21:00.879 Vicki Halliday: meeting. I look right. They're not there. 233 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:03.749 Elizabeth Wright: They're on the website. I just looked 234 00:21:04.020 --> 00:21:06.060 Vicki Halliday: Yeah, it's on the website. 235 00:21:06.150 --> 00:21:12.170 frank murphy: Yeah, I just will review those and we'll pick them up at the next meeting. 236 00:21:12.850 --> 00:21:14.249 frank murphy: And 237 00:21:14.560 --> 00:21:17.889 frank murphy: and we'll go from there. 238 00:21:18.140 --> 00:21:25.529 frank murphy: I've got a little little bit of a chair report. I think everything is in order 239 00:21:26.830 --> 00:21:31.569 frank murphy: where we're going with this meeting. It seems like nobody's 240 00:21:31.660 --> 00:21:36.169 frank murphy: nothing's out of sync. We got both Alfie here and Michael here. 241 00:21:36.360 --> 00:21:40.329 frank murphy: which is great, and look forward to that. I am a 242 00:21:40.510 --> 00:21:42.680 frank murphy: short statement 243 00:21:43.310 --> 00:21:49.790 frank murphy: again. I just want to state that the homeless being accommodated on the streets and sidewalks 244 00:21:50.210 --> 00:21:54.390 frank murphy: of our community; and the city, as a whole, is the most inhumane. 245 00:21:54.470 --> 00:22:01.040 frank murphy: brutal, unsafe, and unsanitary emergency shelter solution for both the on the house 246 00:22:01.110 --> 00:22:03.130 frank murphy: and house populations. 247 00:22:03.560 --> 00:22:08.579 frank murphy: This is not a 0 sum game jail versus street, as some would have you believe. 248 00:22:08.750 --> 00:22:19.349 frank murphy: I have been aware. Of multiple solutions for cost-effective emergency shelter presented to the powers that be. From this committee the board members of the Bnc. 249 00:22:19.710 --> 00:22:23.279 frank murphy: And knowledgeable residents of the venice community 250 00:22:23.750 --> 00:22:31.519 frank murphy: I want to state again numbers that were gathered from the new homeless count put out by Lhasa for 2,022 251 00:22:32.740 --> 00:22:40.900 frank murphy: in CD. 11 from a 2020 at a 2020 count of 2958 homeless, for CD. 11 252 00:22:41.220 --> 00:22:45.370 frank murphy: to a 2,022 count of 1,862 253 00:22:46.090 --> 00:22:54.509 frank murphy: that's a that's a decline of 37 in Venice, the 2,020 count was 1,685, 254 00:22:54.710 --> 00:22:58.859 frank murphy: and in the 2022 count was 832, 255 00:22:59.170 --> 00:23:01.819 frank murphy: which is a 51% decline. 256 00:23:02.050 --> 00:23:17.239 frank murphy: With that being said, Venice accounts for 5% of the area, 14% of the population, and 16% of the housing stock of all of CD 11, while accommodating 45% of the homeless population 257 00:23:17.510 --> 00:23:25.010 frank murphy: keep in mind, though, that the homeless population, for all of the city of La has increased by 4%. 258 00:23:26.390 --> 00:23:28.899 frank murphy: So that being said, 259 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:30.500 frank murphy: we have a new 260 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:33.599 frank murphy: Council person and a new mayor. 261 00:23:34.060 --> 00:23:37.969 frank murphy: and i'm looking forward to 262 00:23:38.460 --> 00:23:41.840 frank murphy: a lot more interaction, and 263 00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:43.970 frank murphy: and 264 00:23:44.110 --> 00:23:46.829 frank murphy: and a lot more 265 00:23:47.410 --> 00:23:51.489 frank murphy: hopefully, productivity in the in the near future. So 266 00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:53.580 frank murphy: that being said. 267 00:23:54.040 --> 00:23:56.330 frank murphy: their name is that 268 00:23:57.360 --> 00:24:04.409 frank murphy: so? Let's move on into this to the presentation Stan. Do you want to take it from there. 269 00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:12.109 Ansar Muhammad: Yes, so I want to first. Thank you, Frank. carrying this committee, and I would thank all the committee members for the 270 00:24:13.270 --> 00:24:22.109 Ansar Muhammad: dedication and the commitment and the sacrifice that we all make as volunteers to try to have the the generally conversation around 271 00:24:22.230 --> 00:24:25.419 Ansar Muhammad: the unhouse and Venice. I invited 272 00:24:25.910 --> 00:24:31.849 Ansar Muhammad: 2 individuals who are out 11 respect us on this line tonight with us on the zoom 273 00:24:32.120 --> 00:24:35.950 Ansar Muhammad: 2 guys that I actually grew up with spent a lot of time with 274 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:47.469 Ansar Muhammad: to come into this peaceful, positive work that I've been doing for 25 years. I'm going to introduce Alfie Jones first, who 275 00:24:47.560 --> 00:24:55.200 Ansar Muhammad: is leading a project that we have under our company to help the foundation. He's the lead 276 00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:58.830 Ansar Muhammad: outreach worker we have a 277 00:24:59.020 --> 00:25:03.889 Ansar Muhammad: small contract with 5. I want to, thanks 5, for giving us an opportunity. 278 00:25:03.930 --> 00:25:10.109 Ansar Muhammad: About 3 years ago they had had enough insight into the intelligence to hire some local folk or not hire, but 279 00:25:10.250 --> 00:25:13.239 Ansar Muhammad: contract with the local Cbo, and that was us. 280 00:25:13.380 --> 00:25:20.240 Ansar Muhammad: And now he has been leading the effort. So I want to, you know. Give him the floor to talk to you all about what he do. 281 00:25:20.500 --> 00:25:28.719 Ansar Muhammad: but more importantly, where it came from, and how did he get here, and what we need to be doing moving forward. So, Alfie Johns, the floor is here. 282 00:25:30.760 --> 00:25:32.570 Good evening. Everybody. Can you hear me? 283 00:25:33.210 --> 00:25:35.080 Ansar Muhammad: Yes, yes. 284 00:25:35.170 --> 00:25:37.870 Alfie Jones: yeah. 285 00:25:38.260 --> 00:25:40.330 as Stan stated. 286 00:25:41.510 --> 00:25:44.019 Alfie Jones: my walkman is this up until. 287 00:25:44.500 --> 00:25:54.760 Alfie Jones: say, about 2,000 and late, 2,015 until Friday, September the thirteenth, 2,019. I stayed on third, and rose in between roles. 288 00:25:54.860 --> 00:26:00.580 Alfie Jones: at Hampton. In those streets I I was homeless. I was an alcoholic. I was addicted 289 00:26:01.340 --> 00:26:04.790 Alfie Jones: and it's my life for the help of a foundation 290 00:26:05.950 --> 00:26:23.480 Alfie Jones: Stan and and Frank Murphy came to see me one day, and I was definitely he. I didn't know if I was gonna make it out of stomach virus. You just told me. If you get yourself together, we got a job for you. We can use out here. You you need it in the community. So I got myself together. You kept his work, and they put me on a 5 min by. Since February 2,020 291 00:26:23.890 --> 00:26:40.630 Alfie Jones: I do outreach out there. I go on. The community now find youth that are between the ages of 18 to 21 and try to offer them services at spy. I also have recently began to do 292 00:26:42.060 --> 00:26:55.109 Alfie Jones: housing intakes for the ab 8 for the bridge home. and some of the kids that go to the bridge home. Don't really too much particularly care for, because they say they don't feel secure over there. So I was trying to find a way to. Maybe me and Stan and 293 00:26:55.120 --> 00:27:14.630 Alfie Jones: some guys can get together and and put a new security for us over there because I was born and raised in Venice. So I kind of know the landscape, and I in that for me, being out on the streets for those 3 or 4 years, even some of the most people that have for Venice. I know them, too. I got well acquainted with them when I was out to you because I wasn't the type of guy on the streets that would try to mess over people because I care about my community 294 00:27:16.300 --> 00:27:35.639 Alfie Jones: And, like I say, they, they have been a very big, vital part of me, getting myself together to help with. I help a foundation as, and I've applauded him for the things that they've done. I applaud my my brother Michael for the situation that he's continue to work on out there in the homeless population, because i'm not able to be out there as much as I was before, since I work as fine now. But 295 00:27:35.670 --> 00:27:36.820 Alfie Jones: yeah, that's about it. 296 00:27:38.900 --> 00:27:43.730 Ansar Muhammad: Well, Thank you, Alfie. I I wanted to start hearing another 297 00:27:44.320 --> 00:27:51.479 Ansar Muhammad: another perspective, and these 2 gentlemen Will is definitely subject matter experts. we will be 298 00:27:51.650 --> 00:27:55.509 Ansar Muhammad: hopefully, having conversations with with us, saying, Joseph's in the future 299 00:27:55.800 --> 00:27:59.379 Ansar Muhammad: definitely of an avenue, and others that is in our community 300 00:27:59.430 --> 00:28:05.280 Ansar Muhammad: that is supposed to be doing a level of outreach. There is a difference between, in our opinion. 301 00:28:05.510 --> 00:28:09.479 Ansar Muhammad: outreach and intentional outreach and these gentlemen in here. 302 00:28:09.560 --> 00:28:12.389 Ansar Muhammad: They do intentional outreach, meaning 303 00:28:12.530 --> 00:28:18.159 Ansar Muhammad: get real close up on the clients that they have to work with. So this next individual. 304 00:28:18.360 --> 00:28:22.169 Ansar Muhammad: Michael Ridley, a long time, friend he's actually 305 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:25.579 Ansar Muhammad: because someone who I respect and honor. 306 00:28:25.650 --> 00:28:31.059 Ansar Muhammad: it's not too much going on in this homeless community that he's not aware of. 307 00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:37.120 Ansar Muhammad: He's constantly looking out for him. He's constantly trying to help him, he's constantly communicating with him. So 308 00:28:37.170 --> 00:28:44.260 Ansar Muhammad: Michael is also running, meeting a a project called 300 and 66 passage safety monitoring. 309 00:28:44.520 --> 00:28:58.199 Ansar Muhammad: This is the language when you guys start here in this language. Not that it came from us. It's the difference between security and safety monitoring. So when no further d I would like to 310 00:28:58.290 --> 00:29:00.179 to our zoom. Thank you, Mike. 311 00:29:00.740 --> 00:29:02.709 Michael Ridley: Can you hear me? 312 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:04.710 Ansar Muhammad: Do you hear me 313 00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:06.910 frank murphy: in the area? 314 00:29:07.030 --> 00:29:09.130 Jody Mortimer: Yeah. 315 00:29:09.560 --> 00:29:17.329 Michael Ridley: I started getting to this homeless thing. When I was working with purchaser I used to be a 316 00:29:17.650 --> 00:29:22.360 Michael Ridley: a supervisor there as a winter shelter. We used to pick up the homeless 317 00:29:22.530 --> 00:29:25.709 Michael Ridley: from the skate park and take him back to the armory 318 00:29:25.800 --> 00:29:28.879 Michael Ridley: and we shelter him to 7 in the morning. 319 00:29:29.030 --> 00:29:34.780 Michael Ridley: We'll bring them back, you know, to that destination, and once the Covid started 320 00:29:35.420 --> 00:29:39.660 Michael Ridley: they made it a pop up, so I decided to come to 321 00:29:40.140 --> 00:29:43.339 Michael Ridley: my neighborhood and try to make a change doing it. 322 00:29:43.450 --> 00:29:45.470 Michael Ridley: and during the time of that 323 00:29:45.790 --> 00:29:50.290 Michael Ridley: it was like a mess a real, you know, unorganized 324 00:29:51.060 --> 00:29:52.470 Michael Ridley: on there 325 00:29:52.540 --> 00:29:56.860 Michael Ridley: on happen, you know, throughout Venice Park flower. 326 00:29:57.190 --> 00:30:00.329 Michael Ridley: So I made a prompt myself to start 327 00:30:00.500 --> 00:30:02.660 Michael Ridley: feeding out of the trunk of my car. 328 00:30:03.130 --> 00:30:04.460 Michael Ridley: and then 329 00:30:04.840 --> 00:30:06.220 Michael Ridley: for about a year. 330 00:30:06.760 --> 00:30:09.200 Michael Ridley: and then it became big. 331 00:30:09.420 --> 00:30:10.430 Michael Ridley: So 332 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.150 Michael Ridley: I started, you know, being a mentor to them. And when the Covid hit 333 00:30:15.620 --> 00:30:18.709 Michael Ridley: that is how many clinic wasn't coming to them. 334 00:30:18.770 --> 00:30:20.760 Michael Ridley: So I went to. 335 00:30:21.120 --> 00:30:27.220 Michael Ridley: and actually what they come, and you know, provide a service for these guys, you know, because there's a lot of sick people out there. 336 00:30:28.250 --> 00:30:30.439 Michael Ridley: So in the midst of all that 337 00:30:30.860 --> 00:30:34.099 Michael Ridley: I became a with a lot of homeless people out there. 338 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:35.110 Michael Ridley: and 339 00:30:35.460 --> 00:30:42.129 Michael Ridley: you know they come to me with their personal problems. I provide you tents. I provide their food, you know, for free. 340 00:30:42.290 --> 00:30:44.110 Michael Ridley: Also I did 341 00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:48.720 Michael Ridley: Thanksgiving dinner every year. I've been doing this for now one on almost 4 years. 342 00:30:49.600 --> 00:30:50.520 Michael Ridley: and 343 00:30:50.710 --> 00:30:51.950 Michael Ridley: you have 344 00:30:52.210 --> 00:30:53.510 Michael Ridley: these services. 345 00:30:53.810 --> 00:30:57.400 Michael Ridley: circle team, you know, in the Ag. Me 346 00:30:57.540 --> 00:31:04.570 Michael Ridley: all these people saying, Joseph in there, all these guys, these are. They are not, for you know what they need out there. 347 00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:09.560 Michael Ridley: I'm: the one that's you know, providing safety for these guys 348 00:31:10.100 --> 00:31:12.870 Michael Ridley: making sure that these guys are, you know. 349 00:31:13.620 --> 00:31:16.140 Michael Ridley: is aware of everything that's going on 350 00:31:16.220 --> 00:31:19.509 Michael Ridley: like, you know. For example, several team there 351 00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:27.390 Michael Ridley: supposed to come through and do a safety minority like check on. You know the guys make sure these guys are breathing. And this answer actually how they doing. 352 00:31:27.890 --> 00:31:32.959 Michael Ridley: And we had this one guy. He was dead on it, leaning against his bike with 12 h. 353 00:31:33.370 --> 00:31:34.380 Michael Ridley: and 354 00:31:34.940 --> 00:31:40.349 Michael Ridley: this will happen. I happen to come up, you know. Do my little walk, and I saw the gentleman here. 355 00:31:40.380 --> 00:31:44.720 Michael Ridley: I provided service for him and told him, You know, hey, we got to cease down here 356 00:31:45.300 --> 00:31:48.839 Michael Ridley: and through all this Saint Joseph Center. 357 00:31:48.860 --> 00:31:52.929 Michael Ridley: They have not been around in months. 358 00:31:53.490 --> 00:31:57.549 Michael Ridley: They have not been around. They just came around today. 359 00:31:57.680 --> 00:31:59.530 Michael Ridley: you know, when the new Mary came to 360 00:32:00.060 --> 00:32:02.710 Michael Ridley: and you have the Circle team. 361 00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:08.070 Michael Ridley: they asking me how could they be a help to me with these guys out here? 362 00:32:08.300 --> 00:32:09.779 Michael Ridley: And i'm like, hey. 363 00:32:09.980 --> 00:32:11.929 Michael Ridley: look this out of my lead. 364 00:32:12.280 --> 00:32:14.179 Michael Ridley: so i'm the one 365 00:32:14.820 --> 00:32:17.210 Michael Ridley: who are doing all you know. 366 00:32:17.620 --> 00:32:20.859 Michael Ridley: making sure these guys have what they need, make sure that they 367 00:32:20.950 --> 00:32:26.840 Michael Ridley: are well taken care of Same thing as with the shelter on Maine and sunset. 368 00:32:27.210 --> 00:32:28.740 Michael Ridley: Some of these guys have 369 00:32:28.810 --> 00:32:31.810 Michael Ridley: tents out there and have beds in the shelter. 370 00:32:32.130 --> 00:32:35.609 Michael Ridley: so the ones that have kids out there at the shelter. 371 00:32:37.060 --> 00:32:41.309 Michael Ridley: I remove the T and send them back to the shelter, and I go to the shelter and say, hey. 372 00:32:41.410 --> 00:32:46.159 Michael Ridley: these guys are taking a space for these people that need to be housed out here. 373 00:32:46.990 --> 00:32:53.900 Michael Ridley: And also I I tell them, you know. Hey, you guys need to search these guys and make sure that they're not bringing. 374 00:32:54.940 --> 00:32:59.970 Michael Ridley: So then, you have more depth in that shelters than you have on the street 375 00:33:00.410 --> 00:33:01.960 the story. 376 00:33:01.980 --> 00:33:03.400 Michael Ridley: So 377 00:33:03.520 --> 00:33:05.810 Michael Ridley: i'm maintaining a good 378 00:33:06.450 --> 00:33:11.030 Michael Ridley: relationship with these homeless people, and they trust me 379 00:33:11.050 --> 00:33:13.819 Michael Ridley: they're confidential information. Then 380 00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:16.279 Michael Ridley: say it's also in there. 381 00:33:16.730 --> 00:33:17.820 Michael Ridley: Lhasa 382 00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:19.309 Michael Ridley: and 383 00:33:19.770 --> 00:33:20.930 Michael Ridley: circle t 384 00:33:21.650 --> 00:33:24.860 Michael Ridley: the bathroom. I'm the one had them come out 385 00:33:25.990 --> 00:33:32.520 Michael Ridley: because they didn't have no restrooms. They still don't have wrestling out here, so i'm the provider and the safety 386 00:33:32.550 --> 00:33:34.150 Michael Ridley: for these people out here. 387 00:33:35.080 --> 00:33:37.889 Michael Ridley: It just like on Venice beach the bathrooms. 388 00:33:38.120 --> 00:33:44.019 Michael Ridley: You have a lot of activities on the beach on name yet. Then we're Santa Monica. We've been this. 389 00:33:44.460 --> 00:33:52.669 Michael Ridley: and I monitor that as well to make sure that their safety dude, because there's also a lot of activity going on over there. 390 00:33:52.710 --> 00:33:54.330 Michael Ridley: So i'm more like 391 00:33:54.430 --> 00:33:56.980 Michael Ridley: on patrol, more than the circle team. 392 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:02.500 Ansar Muhammad: and he's about it to me. His time. 393 00:34:03.030 --> 00:34:04.320 Ansar Muhammad: because 394 00:34:05.030 --> 00:34:13.470 Ansar Muhammad: is in business to events. So the passion, the desire, is there, and and and what they're speaking into 395 00:34:13.750 --> 00:34:21.609 Ansar Muhammad: something that I think as a committee we need to hold the Service providers accountable Our goal as a company 396 00:34:21.830 --> 00:34:28.409 Ansar Muhammad: is to really partner with Saint Joseph and these other providers similar to what we're doing 397 00:34:28.500 --> 00:34:37.319 Ansar Muhammad: with a spy. So Michael and others, that from our community. Don't have to be volunteering all the time. It can, you know we can turn this into a real legitimate 398 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:51.130 Ansar Muhammad: job opportunity. So i'm hoping to be meeting with Mrs. Adams and others this month before the money is up about partnership. And there is a group out there. I won't. I won't Michael, speak to the service resistant 399 00:34:51.670 --> 00:34:53.530 Ansar Muhammad: those individuals who 400 00:34:53.770 --> 00:35:02.269 Ansar Muhammad: don't want house? I I would like to speak to that. If you don't mind, or how do we feel, or how do? How do we see from his lens 401 00:35:02.370 --> 00:35:05.310 Ansar Muhammad: how we can still service that population? 402 00:35:05.890 --> 00:35:11.569 Ansar Muhammad: even after the mayor, and tracing him, get done with providing these vouchers. 403 00:35:15.370 --> 00:35:17.230 Michael Ridley: Yeah, also 404 00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:20.160 Michael Ridley: During the years of 405 00:35:20.240 --> 00:35:23.790 Michael Ridley: Third Street, and happened when it was flooded with debris. 406 00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:26.959 Michael Ridley: the city did not clean it up. 407 00:35:27.650 --> 00:35:28.819 I did. 408 00:35:29.260 --> 00:35:31.299 Michael Ridley: I did that by myself. 409 00:35:31.580 --> 00:35:32.759 Michael Ridley: volunteering. 410 00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:39.690 Michael Ridley: That's why they didn't so. The aftermath of the clean up on Thursday they showed the beginning of. 411 00:35:40.270 --> 00:35:43.439 Michael Ridley: I look with all the tent flooded 412 00:35:43.590 --> 00:35:45.319 Michael Ridley: things hanging from a gate. 413 00:35:45.620 --> 00:35:52.370 Michael Ridley: I'm the one that provided my services and my time to clean up Third Street, and happen 414 00:35:52.520 --> 00:35:54.350 Michael Ridley: 6 feet apart, tense. 415 00:35:54.530 --> 00:35:56.770 Michael Ridley: and make it more 416 00:35:58.340 --> 00:36:02.390 Michael Ridley: available for these people can park their cars, and people can walk down the streets. 417 00:36:02.600 --> 00:36:05.180 Michael Ridley: and also for the ones that Don't want to be 418 00:36:05.210 --> 00:36:06.779 Michael Ridley: house and housing. 419 00:36:07.030 --> 00:36:09.390 Michael Ridley: I came over with a solution. We can have 420 00:36:09.470 --> 00:36:12.449 Michael Ridley: a parking lot. We have a structure to where these 421 00:36:12.700 --> 00:36:14.369 Michael Ridley: people are out 422 00:36:14.550 --> 00:36:15.700 Michael Ridley: and provide 423 00:36:17.540 --> 00:36:19.060 Michael Ridley: I would say security 424 00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.650 Michael Ridley: bathroom. And for these guys. 425 00:36:22.870 --> 00:36:23.759 Michael Ridley: because 426 00:36:23.900 --> 00:36:25.869 Michael Ridley: it's a lot of these guys out there. 427 00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:31.919 Michael Ridley: It's not meant to be fit to be house. They only know one thing, and that's being 428 00:36:32.570 --> 00:36:33.720 Michael Ridley: outside 429 00:36:34.100 --> 00:36:35.629 Michael Ridley: in the community, and it's it 430 00:36:36.310 --> 00:36:37.229 Michael Ridley: so 431 00:36:37.610 --> 00:36:53.320 Michael Ridley: as it is right now, i'm the one providing the security for these guys that's out there still living out there in each tense. I'm the one I was going to say to say, hey, we have a 9 year old man out here, sleeping on the ground that need housing. 432 00:36:53.680 --> 00:36:57.290 Michael Ridley: I'm presenting all this stuff to them. They wasn't coming to them. 433 00:36:57.620 --> 00:37:01.120 Michael Ridley: I was going to them. Their voice out there. 434 00:37:01.150 --> 00:37:03.349 Michael Ridley: Why, they're sleeping out there on the sidewalk. 435 00:37:03.460 --> 00:37:04.189 Michael Ridley: so 436 00:37:04.250 --> 00:37:06.510 Michael Ridley: i'm a protector of them. 437 00:37:07.510 --> 00:37:09.910 Michael Ridley: You know they have. They confide to me. 438 00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:18.999 Michael Ridley: and a lot of things, personal issues, and everything else, whether you know they need to wash their clothes or anything like that. I'm there, too. 439 00:37:19.160 --> 00:37:20.559 Michael Ridley: right there for the 440 00:37:22.870 --> 00:37:27.699 Ansar Muhammad: Thank you, My, I see it off. You have this hand up, and I think, before I speak to this. 441 00:37:27.870 --> 00:37:33.639 Ansar Muhammad: what Mike was speaking into this intervention is called the Lto 442 00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:43.219 Ansar Muhammad: to operate and a lot of these providers. Don't realize it yet. But if you don't have 443 00:37:43.300 --> 00:37:45.999 Ansar Muhammad: the license to operate. You're not gonna get it 444 00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:48.990 Ansar Muhammad: anywhere, these folks. 445 00:37:50.210 --> 00:38:01.380 Ansar Muhammad: and that's what Michael have. He has very strong Lto. Because it's very strong, guilty as well. But how he has his hand, so go ahead out. So yeah, I was just. I was kind of piggy back on what he said 446 00:38:02.170 --> 00:38:16.660 Alfie Jones: I didn't speak to my son because I thought it was just a briefing we were doing. But yeah, I I I agree with with Michael a lot, because even by me, working as 5 now. And there's some kids that I went out and look for my maybe found, or ran into at the same time that Saint Joseph did. 447 00:38:16.670 --> 00:38:22.620 Alfie Jones: and I went back, and they found a and it's like you got placed on the list to post, it being in the shelter back in 448 00:38:22.630 --> 00:38:42.170 Alfie Jones: May. It's it's it's January now, and they still in came back. I said, anybody came back and talk to you none of this. So I go on, and going up to do the necessary paperwork and do what I have to do to get him inside the shelter. But I've noticed with St. Joseph. They come through on that one time. Run, get your information, but they don't do no follow which a lot of them people stuff like being in and put in a computer, putting it in the Hmi system 449 00:38:42.180 --> 00:39:01.089 Alfie Jones: and clarity. And that's it. They They have done no follow with the people. They ain't been back after the same I have, like, Michael said. Today is the first time I see. Say, Joseph outside, and that's because the mayor was down, and I do outreach often like, you know, daily a weekly, and I I haven't seen him out here in a while, but I hear that gearing up for this big cleaning that's supposed to come. There's been a 450 00:39:01.420 --> 00:39:16.779 Alfie Jones: There's been a vacant lot on Flower right before you get to League, and where the cleaners used to be right. There was used to be a house right there right behind the cleaners. The light has been vacant since I was homeless. I've been cleaned. I've been off the streets now for over 3 years. I was homeless for 3 years, so I say, give it. Take 8 to 9 years. 451 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:41.910 Alfie Jones: Those people that that don't want to come aside. Why, don't the city see about getting that vacant? Not then putting a port, a party inside of here you have an engage you can come in and out of, because everybody's not going to go inside, and you and you and you, you doing the the neighborhood, the apartment building wherever they're going to go at this service by putting those people indoors, because all they gonna do is tear it up or end up getting put out when that place could be left for somebody that really wants to get indoors. You know what I mean. Some people's mental health. 452 00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:57.359 Alfie Jones: We're not allowed them to stay inside, no matter what you tell them. They rather be criminalized out on the streets than to go into an apartment building, you know. But I think that with even with the Mary coming through and doing these new things that she's supposed to clean the streets of. If you don't, get these people any type of apartments with 453 00:39:57.370 --> 00:40:14.519 Alfie Jones: with, with, with, with a a care team on there, or with some some substantial mental health services along with the drug drug reduction services. It's just you just spin in your wheels, just spending your wheels. You're going to spend a bunch of money on motel rooms again for a couple of months. It's gonna end up with the same thing, you know. 454 00:40:14.530 --> 00:40:22.730 Alfie Jones: not only that a lot of people that's out in the streets. They don't want to accept the apartment buildings because half the apartments are in drug infectious areas like by 455 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:51.170 Alfie Jones: I got their park, or or a lesion park, or all these, you know, they pushing everybody towards downtown. La! And nobody wants to go down. There's a powder cake waiting to, you know, if you really seriously about trying to get clean with yourself, it's kind of hard to do it. If you live in on Scared row there's a couple of people that I got off the streets and help get into the shelter and the and the people that to shelter. Put them on Skid Row. You know what I mean. They scare for their life down there, but that's they put them on the Rso. Downtown on Skid Row, so I think, even with the with. With. With these people. 456 00:40:51.180 --> 00:41:07.200 Alfie Jones: They have to be humanized. A lot of lot of people have looked at these people as they're not even human anymore. As long as they're not on the streets, and we gave them some place to stay. They should be grateful, and I don't care if they've been in the mass box. But what a what a C. That's! But that's not how you're supposed to look at the situation. I'm like this. I wouldn't want to put nobody where I wouldn't want to live. 457 00:41:07.210 --> 00:41:37.189 Alfie Jones: you know. By the grace of God, I don't I don't i'm not. I still haven't got my same my my own place, because, saying Joseph, the 2 Saint Joseph, work as I have. When I got off the streets they both gave me false wrong information, and they just. I recently just lost me and Michael just been. She lost our 6 and 8 vouchers, but we had to say, in case marriage he gave us both miss misinformation. Then all he said at the end of the day, when we lost our 6 and 8, Voucher was sorry. You know what I mean but by the grace of God, I'm. I'm bringing a room from somewhere. But i'm 53 years old I need my own place, but these are the top incompetent days that are happening with the people from St. Joe 458 00:41:37.200 --> 00:41:56.949 Alfie Jones: and things of that nature. You know what I mean and like. I said at this at the shelter. They could like a lot of the kids that we deal with the you. They don't want to stand there because they feel like the adult side. Everybody is on drugs. The Security guards are not doing anything. They're not searching, nobody to see if they got weapons in that. When they come in. They just walk in the gate, you know, so there needs to be a a an overhaul of that whole system. 459 00:41:59.330 --> 00:42:04.289 Ansar Muhammad: Thank you, Alfie. I see. thank you for that 460 00:42:04.700 --> 00:42:10.679 Ansar Muhammad: and your opinion and and your you, you, you, your your lens, that you, that you. 461 00:42:10.720 --> 00:42:18.059 Ansar Muhammad: looking at this out of this vital to this conversation, and we may need to continue these conversations. But I actually see Johnny 462 00:42:18.220 --> 00:42:21.660 Ansar Muhammad: Hand is up, and I don't know if you have a question or come. 463 00:42:22.290 --> 00:42:26.689 Brian U: Does anybody here stand coming in and out? 464 00:42:26.740 --> 00:42:29.459 frank murphy: I'm having trouble here in Stan? 465 00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:35.169 Jody Mortimer: I I to comment, I can wait. I can wait. 466 00:42:36.050 --> 00:42:37.619 Am I coming to clear. 467 00:42:38.140 --> 00:42:47.750 frank murphy: Yeah, I can hear you. You go in and out a little bit. 468 00:42:49.290 --> 00:42:52.399 frank murphy: we will. We we wanted to have 469 00:42:53.240 --> 00:43:03.500 frank murphy: Michael and Alfie and Stan present, and then we were gonna take we're gonna have an exchange with the with the committee. 470 00:43:03.650 --> 00:43:13.279 frank murphy: but also it looks like there's 6 people that are attending. So I think we can take some questions directly from them Also. 471 00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:14.850 frank murphy: if that 472 00:43:14.890 --> 00:43:16.310 frank murphy: if that can work 473 00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:26.019 frank murphy: so Stan did. Did do you feel complete with the presentation at this point, or you want to get into a. Q. A. 474 00:43:26.940 --> 00:43:33.639 Ansar Muhammad: Might have anything that you would like to add before we do the Q. A. We may have some folks with some questions or comments. 475 00:43:36.080 --> 00:43:38.549 Michael Ridley: that's pretty much it up, you know. 476 00:43:39.220 --> 00:43:43.239 Michael Ridley: like when I leave this meeting here, i'm back down here in Venice. 477 00:43:43.950 --> 00:43:47.250 Michael Ridley: Monitor. What goes on down here. So 478 00:43:47.390 --> 00:43:48.279 Michael Ridley: you know 479 00:43:48.630 --> 00:43:51.900 Michael Ridley: that's that's my objective to make sure 480 00:43:52.180 --> 00:43:53.739 Michael Ridley: their well being is 481 00:43:54.200 --> 00:43:57.020 Michael Ridley: is okay. You know everybody 482 00:43:57.250 --> 00:44:00.820 Michael Ridley: is worried out there of what's gonna happen. 483 00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:04.749 Michael Ridley: and you know where where they're gonna go. So 484 00:44:05.190 --> 00:44:09.189 Michael Ridley: they feel more comfortable with me, being in their presence. 485 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:12.940 Michael Ridley: and you know, and I can provide the information to them because 486 00:44:13.650 --> 00:44:17.540 Michael Ridley: none of you know Saint Joseph, like you said. 487 00:44:18.010 --> 00:44:21.680 Michael Ridley: They promise you all this, and then, you know, they put them in the 488 00:44:21.970 --> 00:44:27.810 Michael Ridley: motels. They tear them up, and then, once the program is over here. They are back to the streets. 489 00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:32.299 Michael Ridley: and you know my objective is to clean the streets. 490 00:44:32.600 --> 00:44:39.659 Michael Ridley: Make sure that this shelter over there is ran properly, because you have more depth and a shelter than you have on the street. 491 00:44:39.990 --> 00:44:43.969 Michael Ridley: So you know the security system in there is like. 492 00:44:44.200 --> 00:44:50.880 Michael Ridley: it's none. It's like there are no there. No, you know it's more drug selling, more drug. Use 493 00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:51.810 Michael Ridley: more 494 00:44:51.930 --> 00:44:53.690 Michael Ridley: stolen bikes, more 495 00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:57.950 Michael Ridley: that that is what a community within itself outside of. 496 00:44:58.170 --> 00:45:03.760 Michael Ridley: you know. Thursday, Captain Link, in the beach. The shelter is just one community itself. 497 00:45:04.270 --> 00:45:05.220 Michael Ridley: so 498 00:45:06.860 --> 00:45:10.349 Michael Ridley: i'm going back out there to you know, present my presence to 499 00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:12.310 Michael Ridley: all that is needed for them. 500 00:45:14.530 --> 00:45:19.180 Michael Ridley: and like tonight, you know, every night, you know, I go by the back rooms. 501 00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:21.670 Michael Ridley: and you know I monitor those for about 502 00:45:21.730 --> 00:45:24.879 Michael Ridley: a hour to, you know, because you have a lot of activities 503 00:45:25.060 --> 00:45:26.580 Michael Ridley: going on and there. 504 00:45:27.060 --> 00:45:27.859 Michael Ridley: So 505 00:45:28.510 --> 00:45:31.380 Michael Ridley: i'm, you know, maintaining that area as well. 506 00:45:33.140 --> 00:45:36.579 Ansar Muhammad: I want to thank you, you and our people coming on. 507 00:45:37.050 --> 00:45:40.760 Ansar Muhammad: So if you all can join again next month. But I think 508 00:45:41.250 --> 00:45:45.400 Ansar Muhammad: the safety monitoring of that facility we need to be 509 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:51.400 Ansar Muhammad: in that conversational path, and even with spy. So i'm going to be initiating that conversation. 510 00:45:51.730 --> 00:45:58.339 Ansar Muhammad: because I did ask Michael about a week ago we was there doing the Security and Safety monitor, and how it 511 00:45:58.550 --> 00:46:01.040 Ansar Muhammad: so different. I don't know if you want to share that, Michael. 512 00:46:01.260 --> 00:46:06.150 Ansar Muhammad: But, the way he expressed it, that's exactly what we would be doing if we was there. 513 00:46:07.610 --> 00:46:09.950 On 514 00:46:10.500 --> 00:46:12.359 Michael Ridley: with these people, you know 515 00:46:14.330 --> 00:46:15.729 Michael Ridley: they have. You know 516 00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:20.780 Michael Ridley: they want people to talk to any, you know they need to outlet. So 517 00:46:20.890 --> 00:46:23.840 Michael Ridley: if we more hands on with them like I am. Now. 518 00:46:24.080 --> 00:46:28.770 Michael Ridley: then, i'm quite sure we can get. I'm more like the psychiatrist as well. 519 00:46:29.140 --> 00:46:34.770 Michael Ridley: I deal with them with a lot of issues, and you know, and i'm doing this for free. 520 00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:35.970 Michael Ridley: So 521 00:46:36.190 --> 00:46:39.609 Michael Ridley: if we were like just, we have a crew to 522 00:46:39.740 --> 00:46:46.730 Michael Ridley: mandate all that, and to monitor all that. I think we'll be as successful as you know, dealing with these guys 523 00:46:53.160 --> 00:46:56.710 Ansar Muhammad: with a one, but not come up in here with No. 524 00:46:57.020 --> 00:46:59.149 Michael Ridley: So 525 00:46:59.890 --> 00:47:01.559 Ansar Muhammad: yes, sir. 526 00:47:01.680 --> 00:47:09.559 Michael Ridley: they have tents inside of the shelter as well like I said, it's the community within a community over there. 527 00:47:10.990 --> 00:47:21.400 Michael Ridley: you know, and it I can't go in there and operate it the way I want to, because i'm not being compensated for. But i'm looking at all this, and i'm like, Wow! You know 528 00:47:21.900 --> 00:47:24.379 Michael Ridley: what kind of help are they provide for these people. 529 00:47:25.610 --> 00:47:26.960 Alfie Jones: you know. There's 530 00:47:27.050 --> 00:47:29.980 Michael Ridley: there's no sanitation up in there. They. 531 00:47:30.150 --> 00:47:35.520 Michael Ridley: you know. When the Covid was out they didn't have nowhere for these guys, you know, to 532 00:47:36.670 --> 00:47:37.680 Michael Ridley: quarantine. 533 00:47:37.870 --> 00:47:40.320 Michael Ridley: They quarantine in a cubicle. 534 00:47:40.860 --> 00:47:43.259 Michael Ridley: and that's still amongst other people. 535 00:47:43.550 --> 00:47:48.350 Michael Ridley: you know you have bad bugs in there. You have a lot of these in it that's going on 536 00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:49.109 Michael Ridley: that 537 00:47:50.970 --> 00:47:52.089 Michael Ridley: nobody see. 538 00:47:52.180 --> 00:47:57.610 Michael Ridley: And all this is being brought to me because they can buy it, because 539 00:47:57.660 --> 00:48:01.519 Michael Ridley: most of them that's in there was in my shelter in a new high brandy. 540 00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:08.740 Michael Ridley: So it's like, you know, like Sam was saying. You know, when you come to the gate you have to be search. You have to be one 541 00:48:09.090 --> 00:48:13.839 Michael Ridley: for any anything. Alcohol weapons on it. 542 00:48:13.900 --> 00:48:30.670 Alfie Jones: That's one thing about spy. That's the only one to drawbacks that they what they call low barrier, so they don't search. All they do is actually you have any weapons. You have anything on you? He's say no, but we know better than that, like if somebody asked me, am I going to tell you if I got some? Know me? No, i'm not going to tell you that. 543 00:48:30.790 --> 00:48:41.020 Alfie Jones: But that's one of the biggest problems at the show that the path workers they they're scared of the people that are there, especially the adult side. You know what I mean. So 544 00:48:41.030 --> 00:49:00.480 Alfie Jones: that's something that really needs to be handled. And I mean I I've even went down there before it was some new Security guards there. I just told them that I was there to see somebody. They don't. They don't know I was they opening. They know that for me. Let me write in like with. No, they make no phone calls to call the people that I was coming to see if I was supposed to be coming to see them or not. They just let me just walk right in there. I was like, this is crazy, like, you know. So 545 00:49:00.510 --> 00:49:02.120 yeah, they very loose over there. 546 00:49:03.700 --> 00:49:17.979 Alfie Jones: and even though the people like I say both of the people know me and Michael, so they're not going to try to pull the world over ours, anyway. We but we basically know we're going to be trying to do something against the rules and things of that nature, and they're not that that just change the whole dynamics. They're not. They're not. They're going to have the other people like. Hey, man. 547 00:49:17.990 --> 00:49:26.590 Alfie Jones: Then people here y'all can't do that stuff, you know, like you said like Michael said, they study having overdoses there, man like we had like 4 on our side, just with the youth. One time 548 00:49:26.910 --> 00:49:28.810 Alfie Jones: that's like last month, you know. 549 00:49:29.190 --> 00:49:29.959 Yeah. 550 00:49:31.700 --> 00:49:35.679 Ansar Muhammad: Well, I want to thank Michael, and I want to thank our fee for 551 00:49:36.230 --> 00:49:44.030 Ansar Muhammad: Taking time. One of these schedules man to be with us tonight. I'm gonna turn the the meeting back over to our chair, Frank Murphy. 552 00:49:44.260 --> 00:49:46.859 Ansar Muhammad: and thank you. Guys may have for coming on in my book. 553 00:49:47.020 --> 00:49:55.879 frank murphy: Are we going to keep? Can we keep you guys for a few minutes? We're going to ask a few questions and a couple of people add some questions. 554 00:49:55.900 --> 00:49:57.450 frank murphy: sure. And okay. 555 00:49:57.770 --> 00:49:58.450 Alfie Jones: Yeah. 556 00:49:59.240 --> 00:50:01.990 frank murphy: All right. so 557 00:50:02.350 --> 00:50:03.500 frank murphy: Vicki. 558 00:50:03.550 --> 00:50:06.870 frank murphy: Jody: yeah, go ahead, Vicki. 559 00:50:07.070 --> 00:50:10.699 Vicki Halliday: Thank you. now, for I had a question because I live 560 00:50:10.810 --> 00:50:15.810 Vicki Halliday: Well, the get main gate to bridge housing is 50 right there. 561 00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:16.859 Vicki Halliday: So 562 00:50:17.070 --> 00:50:21.190 Vicki Halliday: you know we've sort of been through a lot of changes since it opened 563 00:50:21.450 --> 00:50:24.809 Alfie Jones: One of the things that's never changed, I can almost 564 00:50:25.010 --> 00:50:29.000 Vicki Halliday: tell you, when their new intakes from spy 565 00:50:29.080 --> 00:50:30.799 Vicki Halliday: going into bridge housing 566 00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:33.889 Vicki Halliday: because they're very lost. It's like they don't 567 00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:37.850 Vicki Halliday: it. It seems like they don't get much orientation 568 00:50:38.030 --> 00:50:45.119 Vicki Halliday: when they come in there, like you know, you gotta do this. You gotta do that be mindful of the neighborhood. 569 00:50:45.240 --> 00:50:48.360 Vicki Halliday: because they park themselves on the steps to my street 570 00:50:48.520 --> 00:50:56.249 Vicki Halliday: and me, the drug dealer and 4 or 5 of them will be sitting there with a bong and a bunch of loud music, and that will last for a week or so 571 00:50:56.500 --> 00:51:03.010 Vicki Halliday: until some neighbor will say, hey, You know, guys, we we gotta get up and down the stairs and 572 00:51:03.410 --> 00:51:04.730 Vicki Halliday: to get in and out. 573 00:51:05.030 --> 00:51:06.080 Vicki Halliday: and 574 00:51:06.590 --> 00:51:07.979 Vicki Halliday: then it seems like 575 00:51:08.140 --> 00:51:13.630 Vicki Halliday: they go away and they find something else to do, and it's like when they first get there. 576 00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:14.880 Vicki Halliday: I mean. 577 00:51:15.450 --> 00:51:22.129 Vicki Halliday: it seems to me like nobody tells them anything. Nobody says, you know we'll get you started on stuff. 578 00:51:22.250 --> 00:51:24.640 Vicki Halliday: Is that is that what's happening? 579 00:51:25.060 --> 00:51:27.970 Alfie Jones: Well, you know the the running part is 580 00:51:28.290 --> 00:51:35.130 Alfie Jones: me. I do outreach, but they have me now doing the intake for the kids. So what I do is once they get to the intake at Spy. 581 00:51:35.140 --> 00:52:05.119 Alfie Jones: I see it down here like they give me the date and the time they're supposed to come, and that all they do is somebody to send them to the gate, and the lady from spy that works inside of Abh, where they'll be Vanessa, or to Real, or whoever. Then they'll come out, and they're they're supposed to give them the run cinema all around, walk them around the campus and give them all the rules to 2 block radius, but they're not supposed to be at, you know, and I came over there several times and told the kids a y'all can be. You can't do this. You can't do that any else 582 00:52:05.130 --> 00:52:10.869 Alfie Jones: as long as i'm there. But after i'm going you know what I mean, because I because for spy and abh, or 583 00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:26.629 Alfie Jones: they're the same, but they're different. You know what I mean they kind of like, but I will. Tomorrow, when I get into work I will put that on the radar, for i'll resume, but we will make some rounds over there because I'm. I'm kind of thinking you stay on sunset. You say that you sit on your steps, so you must stay on sensit right before between Pacific and May 584 00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:30.830 Vicki Halliday: I'm. Actually it's Paloma in south 585 00:52:30.980 --> 00:52:38.499 Vicki Halliday: in line as well. But but we're so close here, I think it's an easy place to meet up with people. 586 00:52:38.630 --> 00:52:41.200 Alfie Jones: Yeah, it is. It is. And and you know 587 00:52:41.210 --> 00:53:06.730 Alfie Jones: that's one of the problems that we've been having peer with them, especially since we moved from all for Lincoln down here to Third and Rose, because it's kind of hard for us to do that to black Radius day, because it's like, okay, You got to cabin right there. You got people doing everything else right here while we can't stand right here, you know. I've like that. If you want to keep getting services here, you gotta listen to the rules, but I understand, and I will. I will put note that tomorrow, and we will. I'll make sure I, if I have to walk through there myself. You said Paloma. Right? 588 00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:14.790 Vicki Halliday: Yeah. And you know everybody here wishes them well, and and hope that this is a stepping stone forum. 589 00:53:15.060 --> 00:53:21.559 Vicki Halliday: but it it's sort of like. They're not start, or they don't seem to be starting out with very many rules. It's fine. 590 00:53:21.650 --> 00:53:22.370 Alfie Jones: Yeah. 591 00:53:22.450 --> 00:53:31.270 Alfie Jones: and I understand it. But not only that these a lot of these kids not held accountable for nothing. They have this thing where they call it low barrier. So the bearer is low. So it's really. 592 00:53:31.290 --> 00:53:41.460 Alfie Jones: This, you know, is is is the same thing that you're saying. I've I've been saying the same thing for the long since I've been there. If you don't hold them accountable for nothing, they're not going to make no changes. 593 00:53:41.550 --> 00:53:43.690 Alfie Jones: They're just not going to make no changes, but 594 00:53:43.750 --> 00:53:53.610 Alfie Jones: i'll i'll. I'll definitely make it my might make it. My point is to. If if I can't come, I'll make. I'll send word for that other. I'll be able to come down to them all. But I understand what you're saying, but it's like 595 00:53:53.640 --> 00:54:10.049 Alfie Jones: I don't know I've I've I've said the same thing for the longest, and all I can keep getting in response is that we're low barrier, and we can't basically can't force somebody to do anything, but they're living in your housing project. They don't want to live in your If they don't live according to the rules they should be able to be there. That's how I feel about it, you know. 596 00:54:10.470 --> 00:54:11.279 Alfie Jones: So 597 00:54:11.460 --> 00:54:12.930 Alfie Jones: thank you, Alfie 598 00:54:14.700 --> 00:54:15.779 frank murphy: Elizabeth. 599 00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:23.779 Elizabeth Wright: Yes, I have a question for Michael. 600 00:54:24.150 --> 00:54:27.749 Elizabeth Wright: A number of times you mentioned 601 00:54:27.830 --> 00:54:32.520 Elizabeth Wright: that more people die in the shelters than on the street. 602 00:54:33.030 --> 00:54:36.310 Elizabeth Wright: Are they dying from? the fact that 603 00:54:36.730 --> 00:54:37.339 Elizabeth Wright: the 604 00:54:37.500 --> 00:54:42.400 Elizabeth Wright: there's an attempt to keep the most vulnerable, at least with a roof over their heads? 605 00:54:42.460 --> 00:54:43.710 Michael Ridley: Or is it 606 00:54:44.020 --> 00:54:45.129 Elizabeth Wright: other things 607 00:54:45.150 --> 00:54:46.370 Michael Ridley: overdose 608 00:54:47.230 --> 00:54:50.379 Michael Ridley: overdose. 609 00:54:52.060 --> 00:54:58.599 Michael Ridley: like? I said, there's more drugs on it, and drugs in that shelter than it is on the streets. 610 00:55:01.150 --> 00:55:03.140 Michael Ridley: They hang right there at the bus. Stop! 611 00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:08.929 Michael Ridley: They hang right there by Vicki's all it all at several area over there. 612 00:55:09.020 --> 00:55:10.430 Michael Ridley: That's where it 613 00:55:11.340 --> 00:55:18.539 Michael Ridley: where everything all the activity is, and it's not put out there to the community that these overdoses are happening. 614 00:55:18.970 --> 00:55:20.040 Michael Ridley: because 615 00:55:20.700 --> 00:55:24.880 Michael Ridley: the staff. There is not putting it out there. How I know he is that 616 00:55:25.210 --> 00:55:27.959 Michael Ridley: these guys come to me, and they let me know. 617 00:55:28.210 --> 00:55:31.240 Michael Ridley: and that's how I find out that, hey? 618 00:55:31.600 --> 00:55:32.540 Michael Ridley: You know 619 00:55:33.350 --> 00:55:35.310 Michael Ridley: how many people have passed up and then 620 00:55:35.450 --> 00:55:36.529 Michael Ridley: for overdose. 621 00:55:37.770 --> 00:55:38.810 Elizabeth Wright: Oh, dear. 622 00:55:39.540 --> 00:55:40.100 hmm. 623 00:55:41.300 --> 00:55:42.410 Ansar Muhammad: Okay. 624 00:55:47.140 --> 00:55:50.099 Ansar Muhammad: So that means it has a security guard on that gate. 625 00:55:50.530 --> 00:56:04.490 Michael Ridley: They they did the guy I mean this kid you are. He sits here in a cheer, and he has, and he opens the door with the stick. We don't get up. He's just opens the door with stick. 626 00:56:04.750 --> 00:56:15.690 Alfie Jones: I told you I went down, and before I just told him I was there to see somebody he didn't ask my credentials. He? No, Id no nothing. He don't know who I was. That was my first. I've never seen him. I just walk right in there. You know it's yeah. 627 00:56:16.190 --> 00:56:24.589 Michael Ridley: and it's like, you know. They give these guys 72 h. All they have to do is just doing there, sign in and come back out to the street. 628 00:56:25.610 --> 00:56:26.790 Michael Ridley: They don't stay there. 629 00:56:26.980 --> 00:56:29.050 Michael Ridley: Zoom! Bears are empty. 630 00:56:29.270 --> 00:56:34.080 Michael Ridley: They stay on the streets in tent, and that's where I come in at, and i'm like, hey, wait a minute. 631 00:56:34.430 --> 00:56:35.870 Michael Ridley: aren't you into shelter. 632 00:56:36.110 --> 00:56:39.280 Michael Ridley: Yes, well, I mean you know what's going on here. 633 00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:40.399 Michael Ridley: and I told 634 00:56:41.230 --> 00:56:47.030 Michael Ridley: months and months ago I told Saint Joseph this cause, say, Joseph used to come through with a list 635 00:56:47.940 --> 00:56:49.430 Michael Ridley: of who's on the street. 636 00:56:49.500 --> 00:56:50.839 Michael Ridley: and who's in the shelter? 637 00:56:51.700 --> 00:56:58.769 Michael Ridley: And I said, don't you guys share the same list? Yes, now you don't know that this person is not supposed to be here in the tent 638 00:56:58.820 --> 00:57:00.390 Michael Ridley: he's supposed to be in a shelter. 639 00:57:00.590 --> 00:57:02.449 Michael Ridley: You know what's going on here. 640 00:57:03.530 --> 00:57:06.119 Michael Ridley: so you know it's a lot of empty- 641 00:57:06.160 --> 00:57:07.869 Michael Ridley: There there are 642 00:57:08.080 --> 00:57:09.319 Michael Ridley: taking. But 643 00:57:09.420 --> 00:57:12.729 Michael Ridley: they don't sleep in the bed. They sleep outside in the chin. 644 00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:17.379 Michael Ridley: They have 32 h to come back in to sign in and come back out. 645 00:57:24.260 --> 00:57:26.669 frank murphy: Jody, you had to 646 00:57:27.340 --> 00:57:28.620 frank murphy: a question. 647 00:57:29.510 --> 00:57:32.410 Jody Mortimer: I had a question. Thank you. right 648 00:57:32.430 --> 00:57:37.730 Jody Mortimer: this. Thank you. for for bringing your your guys in. 649 00:57:37.770 --> 00:57:39.279 Jody Mortimer: It's very informative. 650 00:57:39.430 --> 00:57:48.249 Jody Mortimer: first is a question for let me start with that. I'll be Thank you for coming in, by the way. And speaking 651 00:57:48.740 --> 00:57:52.139 Jody Mortimer: you do do good work 652 00:57:52.300 --> 00:57:53.359 Jody Mortimer: the 653 00:57:54.500 --> 00:57:56.880 Jody Mortimer: What do you think of what's the the main key? 654 00:57:57.040 --> 00:58:00.669 Jody Mortimer: When stan you said that Stan had 655 00:58:01.730 --> 00:58:05.279 Jody Mortimer: approached you while you were at on Third Street right? You were living on third. 656 00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:09.080 Alfie Jones: Yeah, him and Frank, you mean Frank had approaching Monday. But I was, too. 657 00:58:09.510 --> 00:58:12.270 Jody Mortimer: You? Yeah, you probably have prior history. But 658 00:58:12.460 --> 00:58:14.429 Jody Mortimer: what do you think was the key 659 00:58:14.490 --> 00:58:15.589 Jody Mortimer: factor? 660 00:58:15.940 --> 00:58:21.839 Jody Mortimer: That was it the job that he offered you a sense of a sense of like, hey? I can really help the community. Is that what 661 00:58:21.970 --> 00:58:23.029 Jody Mortimer: got you 662 00:58:23.930 --> 00:58:33.009 Jody Mortimer: off the Third Street? Or and did you still stay at Third Street, or did you at that point, go and stay in another place where it's more secure? Since you had a 663 00:58:33.080 --> 00:58:36.909 Jody Mortimer: you had a purpose or something. At that point he gave you kind of a a job. 664 00:58:37.330 --> 00:58:42.429 Jody Mortimer: So what what was the what was the what? The key was? Because at that 665 00:58:43.180 --> 00:58:54.380 Alfie Jones: I was going through something mentally, physically, and I feel like I, a bunch of people had it, man to me, but stan didn't help a foundation didn't. They always came in check to always send messages, even when I didn't want to receive it. 666 00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:56.450 Alfie Jones: Oh, it was like 667 00:58:56.720 --> 00:59:06.979 Alfie Jones: I I saw that at that time that if I didn't get off the streets that I was gonna probably end up dying on the streets, and that's nothing that I wanted. You know what I mean, and him coming to see me. I I say it must have been I him. A friend came back. 668 00:59:07.900 --> 00:59:09.709 Alfie Jones: That must have been I. I would say. 669 00:59:09.740 --> 00:59:20.420 Alfie Jones: maybe 6 months before I see Frank again myself, friend again, even though I was. You know what I mean, because I think like a little bit after standing, and it came by, maybe like a month or so later. This is this is the one 670 00:59:21.230 --> 00:59:31.789 Alfie Jones: I started. I will give St. Johnstone Center as a guy named Carlos Rodriguez. He will come, get you when he will help you get off the streets he deals with, with the drug with what we he deals with the 671 00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:42.850 Alfie Jones: we have, and things of that nature. And I I referred a lot of people to a music he's a good duty. He's one of those people that there's like me and Michael. He works from his heart. He doesn't work from his pocket. You know what I mean. What he cares to see people. 672 00:59:44.910 --> 01:00:04.720 Alfie Jones: So you think it. It was just basically the that somebody actually care. It was the carrying it to my. I didn't even know what the job was going to be just told me I was going to have a job, for I don't know what it was going to be. But I once I got myself together, and you told me box by I was like oh, that's that's also because that's why I just came from. She got it like this just for me to do that. You know what I mean. 673 01:00:04.860 --> 01:00:14.719 Jody Mortimer: So you're very much in favor of okay, direct outreach 674 01:00:14.940 --> 01:00:29.569 Jody Mortimer: and a thank you, and just a statement from Michael. You You mentioned about that a lot on Flower Street. we are. We are actually in the works of locating we have for lots that are ready to be a breakground on now 675 01:00:29.660 --> 01:00:31.349 Jody Mortimer: here in Venice that we could. 676 01:00:31.570 --> 01:00:37.110 Jody Mortimer: that. and this is more something for Frank to talk about, but we do. We are working on 677 01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:41.140 Jody Mortimer: finding lots for the homeless that are out. Flower. 678 01:00:41.420 --> 01:00:55.250 Alfie Jones: Yeah, that lasts been like. I say, I was out there for 3 years. I've been clean for almost 4, so I I would say at least 10 years. A lot has been there. It was there before I got messed up. You know what I mean, and it just sits there. I can, I guess. Used to be a house there, somebody toward the house. Now it's just 679 01:00:55.640 --> 01:00:59.339 Jody Mortimer: yeah. Nobody is going to purchase it at this point. Okay, thank you. 680 01:00:59.460 --> 01:01:01.210 Jody Mortimer: Thank you. I understand 681 01:01:01.460 --> 01:01:02.479 Ansar Muhammad: you're welcome. 682 01:01:03.020 --> 01:01:06.509 frank murphy: All right. Brian. You got your hand up. 683 01:01:07.820 --> 01:01:09.150 Brian U: Yeah, thanks, Frank 684 01:01:09.330 --> 01:01:13.580 Brian U: Stan. Thank you so much for bringing your guys, Michael Alfie. 685 01:01:13.630 --> 01:01:19.139 Brian U: You're You're absolutely giving testimony to everything we've been talking about for months. 686 01:01:19.450 --> 01:01:24.590 Brian U: but it comes differently to the committee when it comes from actual people that are on the street 687 01:01:24.770 --> 01:01:33.299 Brian U: actually doing this work with lived experience. Stan has lived experience, but as the guy that runs it, people don't give him credit 688 01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:39.630 Brian U: for his lived experience. It's more like oh, this is a business deal. And 689 01:01:39.650 --> 01:01:44.969 Brian U: This is just very, very upfront, and it shows you where the problems are in our system. 690 01:01:45.140 --> 01:01:53.049 Brian U: we've talked about the guards not being able to let you know the things that are in there, the gangs that are running the drugs and everything but to know that 691 01:01:53.100 --> 01:01:57.730 Brian U: Alfie and and and Michael and and Stan are out there doing this work. 692 01:01:57.820 --> 01:02:01.729 Brian U: this is what needs to be brought forth to Tracy and her team. 693 01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:04.679 Brian U: and even to the Mayor. I 694 01:02:04.980 --> 01:02:06.989 Brian U: you know i'm not sure 695 01:02:07.110 --> 01:02:10.589 Brian U: Stan, if you've had a chance to meet with Clint Carlton yet. 696 01:02:10.870 --> 01:02:14.629 Ansar Muhammad: but I haven't yet. Yeah. 697 01:02:14.740 --> 01:02:18.059 Brian U: I've met with him 2 or 3 times now, just trying to get him 698 01:02:18.110 --> 01:02:33.219 Brian U: up to speed a little bit about just my knowledge on it. And I've mentioned you guys, and and there's other things that they're doing, but they really want to take an active role and kind of roll out a program called inside safe. 699 01:02:33.690 --> 01:02:42.060 Brian U: And I think what they're trying to do is is get with people like you get with people like West Coast care get with people like share or other 700 01:02:42.260 --> 01:02:58.200 Brian U: options Besides, what's out there to see how you know we can implement these programs. I mean, it's absolutely. If we don't get you hired to do this work, it's never going to get better, you know, if we don't get the drugs off the street like you've mentioned on Flower. If you don't do it on South Venice. 701 01:02:58.210 --> 01:03:03.129 Brian U: you know we're we're out of luck here in Venice. If we can't stop the drug trade that's happening within this 702 01:03:03.170 --> 01:03:07.420 Brian U: Stan. Have you ever been asked to write a formal presentation? 703 01:03:07.740 --> 01:03:13.150 Brian U: it says, hey, for a 1 million dollars or for a half a 1 million dollars. Here's what we'll do. 704 01:03:13.220 --> 01:03:16.629 Brian U: because that seems to be what we always had to do for Bonn 705 01:03:16.870 --> 01:03:25.679 Brian U: and we would write down. Hey, how many people can you put in shared housing? How much is it going to cost? And all the budgets, etc.? Have you been asked to do that 706 01:03:25.820 --> 01:03:32.449 Ansar Muhammad: I haven't been asked. But we are. We are ready. 707 01:03:32.640 --> 01:03:36.279 Ansar Muhammad: We have a phenomenal writer Don. I was born 708 01:03:36.640 --> 01:03:42.610 Ansar Muhammad: so maybe what I do, Brian is I'll go ahead and jump out there, and I can even access it to be prepared 709 01:03:42.930 --> 01:03:46.649 Ansar Muhammad: on when they do do X. But no, we haven't been that 710 01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:53.040 Brian U: all right. Well, because because I got asked to do it, and I put together a budget to take 50 people off a third. 711 01:03:53.300 --> 01:04:06.379 Brian U: and and Hampton and sunset in that area which is, seems to be a big place that that Tracy's group wants to start to target. And we'll, we'll talk offline, and i'll tell you what we did. 712 01:04:06.430 --> 01:04:20.819 Brian U: but that's the next step they want to to do is let's let's get into an action. And hiring people like you guys is critical to give any traction Michael and how he would be running that project. So 713 01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:23.770 Ansar Muhammad: Thank you that I I haven't even thought about 714 01:04:24.460 --> 01:04:33.589 Ansar Muhammad: to put something like that together until Rp. Come. Normally, what happens with us? We have to wait for the request for proposal. Then we got to go to the business conference that 715 01:04:33.770 --> 01:04:42.249 Brian U: i'll. I'll talk to you off. I'll offline about this, but 716 01:04:42.380 --> 01:04:43.359 Brian U: you know 717 01:04:43.540 --> 01:04:53.709 Brian U: the the reason there's no Rfp. Coming out is because the the contract it's already with. Say, Joseph, there's no Rfp. To do something in bridge housing, because the contract sits with path. 718 01:04:53.970 --> 01:05:04.719 Brian U: And so these are works that are happening behind the scenes that I think, that we all just need to say, hey, we can do this. We can do that. Here are the outcomes, and here's what it cost to do it. 719 01:05:04.830 --> 01:05:11.989 Brian U: and we we need to do it by example, because we're not going to get it based on just conversation. 720 01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:13.699 Ansar Muhammad: Thank you. 721 01:05:14.230 --> 01:05:19.420 Brian U: Great work to you guys, Michael and and Alfie. You You do God's work. We appreciate it. 722 01:05:19.490 --> 01:05:21.799 Michael Ridley: Thank you. 723 01:05:22.290 --> 01:05:24.179 frank murphy: Pat. You have your hand up 724 01:05:26.530 --> 01:05:28.509 PatRaphael: all right. Can everybody hear me? Okay. 725 01:05:28.550 --> 01:05:29.310 frank murphy: Yep. 726 01:05:29.500 --> 01:05:36.189 PatRaphael: Yeah, Thank you, Stan, for bringing the guys. I appreciate the on the ground perspective that you guys are 727 01:05:36.530 --> 01:05:37.720 PatRaphael: communicating. 728 01:05:37.810 --> 01:05:42.010 PatRaphael: as we're seeing the problem. And 729 01:05:42.310 --> 01:05:46.549 PatRaphael: where things are now and maybe envisioning where it can go. 730 01:05:46.670 --> 01:05:58.089 PatRaphael: Is there one or 2 things that we can do in the short term that you think could look closer to what it would envision, what like what you're looking for 731 01:05:58.110 --> 01:05:59.730 PatRaphael: as a best case scenario. 732 01:05:59.770 --> 01:06:03.680 PatRaphael: And then, I I understood, a little bit of 733 01:06:03.820 --> 01:06:06.619 PatRaphael: not having consequences. 734 01:06:06.780 --> 01:06:07.779 PatRaphael: as 735 01:06:07.950 --> 01:06:09.609 PatRaphael: one of the things that 736 01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:15.429 PatRaphael: that has been hard to deal with. What kind of consequences could we think of? 737 01:06:15.500 --> 01:06:20.010 PatRaphael: And and what would it look like if we were to kind of have 738 01:06:20.260 --> 01:06:23.889 PatRaphael: at least some levels of consequences that people would go through. 739 01:06:24.020 --> 01:06:28.239 PatRaphael: As we're trying to gauge. How serious they are! What kind of. 740 01:06:28.290 --> 01:06:34.670 PatRaphael: if they're having in the community. Do you guys have anything like that in mind? Because at at at the end of the day 741 01:06:35.460 --> 01:06:36.779 being able to 742 01:06:37.160 --> 01:06:39.699 PatRaphael: fine in the short term. What we can do 743 01:06:39.730 --> 01:06:44.220 PatRaphael: seems to be where we are now and then being able to implement things that are. 744 01:06:44.300 --> 01:06:47.299 PatRaphael: you know, practical and workable on the ground. 745 01:06:47.350 --> 01:06:53.549 PatRaphael: So anything you guys want to say on that and thanks again, for, for putting these 746 01:06:53.640 --> 01:06:55.839 perspectives in front of us. 747 01:06:56.750 --> 01:06:57.590 Ansar Muhammad: you welcome. 748 01:07:00.500 --> 01:07:02.860 Ansar Muhammad: I don't know if you want to weigh in on that. 749 01:07:03.240 --> 01:07:05.390 Alfie Jones: Yeah, i'll say some what I know 750 01:07:06.870 --> 01:07:09.060 Alfie Jones: it. It might seem kind of harsh, but 751 01:07:09.160 --> 01:07:13.739 Alfie Jones: i'm like this: I believe in helping people that won't help. So if I got you 752 01:07:14.090 --> 01:07:25.150 Alfie Jones: into a shelter, and all you want to do is go over there you use, and there's a place to store your stuff charge of people's, phones, and do all this x, x, y, and Z stuff what You're not even keeping in contact with 753 01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:39.719 Alfie Jones: a case manager to see about you getting some permanent sustainable housing You're getting loaded in there. Then I feel like if you get call, you know, once or twice doing something against rules, then maybe you need to go back outside, and that somebody that really wants to be inside is trying to get some help 754 01:07:39.970 --> 01:07:51.270 Alfie Jones: to to to go somewhere. You know what I mean, because there's a lot of people that are outside that they're they're waiting to get on this that really want some help. They don't use drugs, they just on cease whatever whatever reason they had, and they and they lose hope because 755 01:07:51.280 --> 01:08:08.939 Alfie Jones: they'll see the recidivism of a person that's been messing up, because there's some some people I've seen getting that shelter 2 or 3 times already. They have messed up and got put out for something couple of months. Go by to get back in there. They mess up again and get put out. They go back again like this other. It's not here for the last 6 months, and never got in there one time, you know. 756 01:08:08.950 --> 01:08:28.030 Alfie Jones: So I think that there has to be a Some ground rules that you know. This is everything that you do here is for for your betterment. This is not something that you do just to say, hey, hey? Look! I got off the streets but i'm still go outside sleeping my tent, if you still sleep in. And why did you get a bed in the shelter when there's somebody that's sitting out there that really needs that big 757 01:08:28.040 --> 01:08:45.330 Alfie Jones: that made that really never made any sense to me that when it' to first open they would be directly across the street from the show to ride by goals in parking lot. The ones right right across street on me. They would be sitting here. They go out into whatever they do. Go inside and get some fool. Come back out and go right back in a tent. They never will stand inside of it. But those people they hailed on for the longest. 758 01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:48.409 Michael Ridley: Yeah, it's on third. 759 01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:49.979 Michael Ridley: I have people. 760 01:08:50.490 --> 01:08:52.380 Michael Ridley: They not on drugs. 761 01:08:52.439 --> 01:08:53.229 Michael Ridley: They work. 762 01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:54.669 Michael Ridley: they get up. 763 01:08:54.710 --> 01:08:58.019 Michael Ridley: go to work, and it's still even outside 764 01:08:58.170 --> 01:08:59.079 Michael Ridley: in the 10, 765 01:08:59.689 --> 01:09:06.680 Michael Ridley: and it's like you know the current. They don't have no credit loan over there in that shelter. They they not teach them anything. 766 01:09:06.939 --> 01:09:14.469 Michael Ridley: There's no drug classes. There's no anger management. There's no psychiatrist. They're just their baby sitting. 767 01:09:15.020 --> 01:09:16.370 Michael Ridley: And again the paycheck 768 01:09:16.830 --> 01:09:25.090 Michael Ridley: and same thing with several team. Several team comes to me. And actually, how could they be a help to me as far as monitoring these guys 769 01:09:25.300 --> 01:09:26.399 Michael Ridley: on the street. 770 01:09:27.260 --> 01:09:30.960 Michael Ridley: You know I give them a area to deal with. 771 01:09:31.140 --> 01:09:42.409 Michael Ridley: You know they they more or less like they come by and say, hey, you know somebody called about a generator. They more concerned about a generator than these people out here. Lay down here in these tents. 772 01:09:42.479 --> 01:09:48.359 Michael Ridley: Now tell them, hey, look! Check this out. This generator then ran for these guys to have coffee 773 01:09:48.479 --> 01:09:52.799 Michael Ridley: and high cocoa and soup. You know now that it is Code 774 01:09:52.850 --> 01:09:57.630 Michael Ridley: and the people that's in the shelter. You know they in there because it's cold. But what's the summertime? 775 01:09:57.670 --> 01:09:59.590 Michael Ridley: They back out here, so 776 01:10:00.060 --> 01:10:04.670 Michael Ridley: they're not learning anything or getting it. Benefit anything in that shelter 777 01:10:04.900 --> 01:10:07.050 Michael Ridley: to make it seem like, hey? You know 778 01:10:07.120 --> 01:10:08.899 Michael Ridley: we're getting some out of this. 779 01:10:09.110 --> 01:10:12.359 Michael Ridley: only they they just they just using the system 780 01:10:12.680 --> 01:10:16.379 Michael Ridley: just like the work is over there. 781 01:10:17.820 --> 01:10:21.489 PatRaphael: Yeah, it it seems to me like we really need a better 782 01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:23.309 PatRaphael: classification. 783 01:10:23.620 --> 01:10:24.429 PatRaphael: Oh. 784 01:10:24.520 --> 01:10:25.210 PatRaphael: what 785 01:10:25.500 --> 01:10:29.869 PatRaphael: what we're, what we're dealing with in the population. And once we have classification. 786 01:10:30.060 --> 01:10:31.280 PatRaphael: certain 787 01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:35.960 PatRaphael: positive groups that are actually looking for help 788 01:10:36.290 --> 01:10:38.820 PatRaphael: can be focused on in a way where 789 01:10:39.010 --> 01:10:43.319 PatRaphael: I mean it sounds so obvious, but what I I feel like 790 01:10:43.540 --> 01:10:46.180 PatRaphael: a lot of the home discounts a lot of the 791 01:10:46.240 --> 01:10:51.089 PatRaphael: the the ways we're doing to to inform ourselves of what's going on 792 01:10:51.120 --> 01:10:58.610 PatRaphael: is too broad. Stroke it doesn't have the fine tooth of people who know people in in, in. 793 01:10:59.010 --> 01:10:59.770 in the 794 01:10:59.880 --> 01:11:03.410 PatRaphael: population like you guys are talking about. So 795 01:11:03.910 --> 01:11:07.059 PatRaphael: everything you're saying it's it to me like, that's the 796 01:11:07.770 --> 01:11:12.260 PatRaphael: that's that's that's a good area to think of solutions, to try to 797 01:11:12.360 --> 01:11:13.800 PatRaphael: prevent the 798 01:11:13.970 --> 01:11:16.340 PatRaphael: back and forth with the circular door 799 01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:21.129 PatRaphael: of people who don't really need help, but are clogging it for everybody that might. 800 01:11:22.790 --> 01:11:42.210 Alfie Jones: They need to have a tier system, I believe, like you come in. This is tier one. This is tier 2 we elevate into here you'll go. You'll end. Goal is to get in the get in the department of your own. I get totally off the streets, and i'm telling you it's there's been people like I said. They've been in there several times. There's been people that have been in there 4 or 5 months, and only seen the Council in one time. 801 01:11:42.270 --> 01:11:46.019 Alfie Jones: but I told you you have to be proactive on stuff if you really want it done. But 802 01:11:46.110 --> 01:12:05.940 Alfie Jones: a lot of people once they get off the street. Is it like, okay, I'm: not on the street no more. I'm under a roof. So I don't. I'm: i'm cool. I'm. Good. I can up tell a lot of the the clients like this is not the end of the road. You can't stay here for ever. You have to move forward. You have to try to get in touch with somebody and let these people know that you really trying to do someone yourself, and the more that you apply it, so the more you get out of it. You know what I mean. 803 01:12:06.220 --> 01:12:08.459 Alfie Jones: See a lot of the people here. 804 01:12:09.170 --> 01:12:26.980 Alfie Jones: They need a a they need to like, you know, like when you come in for the first 30 days we expect this out of you from 31 to 6 to to 60. We expect this out of you from 60 to 90. Respect this out of you know there should be tears that should be something that they look forward to, besides just waiting on the case manager to say something to it 805 01:12:27.620 --> 01:12:31.389 Michael Ridley: right. And you know most of the time. What I do is 806 01:12:32.230 --> 01:12:35.769 Michael Ridley: I I give them the address on National, and 807 01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:42.140 Michael Ridley: where the head office is, where the case management, system, office, and do nothing all day. 808 01:12:42.200 --> 01:12:43.300 Michael Ridley: I say, hey, Look. 809 01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:45.069 Michael Ridley: they're not going to come to you 810 01:12:45.280 --> 01:12:46.120 Ansar Muhammad: right. 811 01:12:46.530 --> 01:12:50.309 Michael Ridley: I send them straight over there to the National. 812 01:12:50.970 --> 01:12:52.379 Michael Ridley: you know an accident. 813 01:12:52.440 --> 01:12:56.280 Michael Ridley: Speak to you, supervisor some because, like you said 814 01:12:56.850 --> 01:12:58.200 Michael Ridley: they're not going to come to you. 815 01:12:58.380 --> 01:13:00.410 Michael Ridley: They're not able to reach out to you. 816 01:13:00.940 --> 01:13:01.830 Michael Ridley: you know. 817 01:13:01.850 --> 01:13:05.489 Michael Ridley: and most most of the staff they didn't went out on stress lead. 818 01:13:05.530 --> 01:13:06.660 Michael Ridley: you know, because 819 01:13:06.950 --> 01:13:08.130 Michael Ridley: it it it's like 820 01:13:08.150 --> 01:13:16.250 Michael Ridley: It's a muddy game to some of them, and there some of them is the most so, because they see that there is nothing being done for these people. 821 01:13:17.350 --> 01:13:19.679 Michael Ridley: So you know it. It it's it's 822 01:13:19.850 --> 01:13:22.219 Michael Ridley: it is. It is real bad out there. 823 01:13:22.420 --> 01:13:24.660 Michael Ridley: and you know these people just looking at 824 01:13:24.780 --> 01:13:26.150 Michael Ridley: these 825 01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:33.809 Michael Ridley: they got these on on the sidewalk as a paycheck. They don't have no concern or care for them in the world, and it's sad. 826 01:13:34.540 --> 01:13:35.309 but 827 01:13:35.440 --> 01:13:36.810 Michael Ridley: you know it's happening. 828 01:13:36.850 --> 01:13:48.990 Michael Ridley: It's like, you know. I break down every now and then, you know, because here it is, it's freezing code out here, and you know they don't have the blankets they don't have this. They don't have that. They've been threatened that 829 01:13:49.050 --> 01:13:51.229 Michael Ridley: hey? We will come through every Thursday. 830 01:13:51.300 --> 01:13:53.409 Michael Ridley: It' you to tear your 10 down. 831 01:13:53.450 --> 01:13:54.280 Michael Ridley: You know 832 01:13:54.350 --> 01:13:55.969 Michael Ridley: we had a guy. 833 01:13:56.150 --> 01:13:57.340 Michael Ridley: He died 834 01:13:58.730 --> 01:14:02.129 Michael Ridley: on a third day. They did sanitation because he told him, he said, Look. 835 01:14:02.480 --> 01:14:04.739 Michael Ridley: i'm tired of my team. 836 01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:06.670 Michael Ridley: and 837 01:14:06.780 --> 01:14:07.700 Michael Ridley: it's like 838 01:14:09.100 --> 01:14:12.370 Michael Ridley: that end of that day When they took his tent from him 839 01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:14.440 Michael Ridley: that night he passed. 840 01:14:16.780 --> 01:14:18.319 Michael Ridley: It is, you know. 841 01:14:18.420 --> 01:14:22.080 Michael Ridley: and it and it was sad, you know, because they threatened these people. 842 01:14:22.390 --> 01:14:23.610 Michael Ridley: and i'm right here 843 01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:29.159 Michael Ridley: and I go. I used to go to my minor's office. You know I kept in contact with them through email and say, hey, look! 844 01:14:29.370 --> 01:14:31.110 Michael Ridley: If I keep this street 845 01:14:31.730 --> 01:14:33.600 Michael Ridley: and I keep this down. 846 01:14:33.780 --> 01:14:35.389 Michael Ridley: Can you guys spare me 847 01:14:35.530 --> 01:14:37.630 Michael Ridley: your comprehensive cleanup. 848 01:14:37.890 --> 01:14:38.760 Michael Ridley: because 849 01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:40.970 Michael Ridley: it's a wearing chair on these guys 850 01:14:41.060 --> 01:14:41.750 to 851 01:14:41.830 --> 01:14:43.230 Michael Ridley: lift it up. 852 01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:45.129 Michael Ridley: Take it over here 853 01:14:45.220 --> 01:14:46.379 Michael Ridley: and bring it back. 854 01:14:46.510 --> 01:14:50.569 Michael Ridley: and then, when they do come down the street, they don't sanitize the streets. 855 01:14:50.830 --> 01:14:56.179 Michael Ridley: They don't do anything. It'd be more debris when they leave than they do when they come. 856 01:14:56.900 --> 01:14:57.679 Michael Ridley: and 857 01:14:58.460 --> 01:15:02.040 Michael Ridley: me and another friend of my cousin of mine. 858 01:15:02.890 --> 01:15:05.510 Michael Ridley: We sanitize the and we use 859 01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:07.560 Michael Ridley: the fire hydrant 860 01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:13.949 Michael Ridley: as the watered. The chief Fire chief gave us the the key to turn on that water, because he saw 861 01:15:13.970 --> 01:15:16.250 Michael Ridley: what was not being done for these people. 862 01:15:16.670 --> 01:15:21.110 Michael Ridley: So we were the one sanitizing the street, not the city. 863 01:15:21.780 --> 01:15:22.690 Michael Ridley: We were 864 01:15:28.050 --> 01:15:31.679 PatRaphael: real quickly. It sounds like. 865 01:15:31.710 --> 01:15:36.440 PatRaphael: having a system of tears having people who care 866 01:15:36.590 --> 01:15:38.129 PatRaphael: good places to start 867 01:15:38.490 --> 01:15:39.980 PatRaphael: people whose heart is in it 868 01:15:40.790 --> 01:15:42.889 definitely 869 01:15:43.670 --> 01:15:45.139 Jody Mortimer: more peer support. 870 01:15:46.490 --> 01:15:49.750 frank murphy: Liz. did you have your hand up again? 871 01:15:55.160 --> 01:15:56.570 Alfie Jones: Your mute list? 872 01:15:57.070 --> 01:16:00.830 Elizabeth Wright: Just a a real quick question. for alfie 873 01:16:01.210 --> 01:16:03.069 Elizabeth Wright: at spy 874 01:16:03.410 --> 01:16:08.019 Elizabeth Wright: did they ever use the approach of trust? Is something that is earned. 875 01:16:08.480 --> 01:16:09.500 Elizabeth Wright: And 876 01:16:09.770 --> 01:16:12.600 Elizabeth Wright: so, for the first 3 months you have to 877 01:16:12.930 --> 01:16:20.100 Elizabeth Wright: show that you have no weapons or no drugs, and so forth. After 3 months it gets better, and you get more trust. 878 01:16:20.590 --> 01:16:37.249 Alfie Jones: you know. That's why they at that the actual spy, not the one at 88, but spiders down the street. They what you call low barrier. All I can do is. Ask a kid when they come in. Do you have any weapons or drugs on? They can tell me. No, I can't look in their pockets. I can't. Looking at backpacks. I can't touch them. I can't search them. None of that. 879 01:16:37.480 --> 01:16:52.069 Alfie Jones: You know that that's what I mean. They don't understand the concept trust it has to be earned exactly exactly it, and it's crazy, because by me being there for so long, and working on that gate, they removed me from the gate, by the way, because I was too busy and forcing rules. But 880 01:16:52.080 --> 01:17:10.800 Alfie Jones: I I was, I kind of knew who was lying, who was, who would always have weapons on them, and I, like may just give me a stuff because they what they do. They have a box there. They let them turn the weapons in, or you leave it. When you leave, you get your weapons to go back with you, because we understand some people on the street. But yeah, yeah, that it was. It's not really earned. It's just 881 01:17:10.810 --> 01:17:12.620 Alfie Jones: you tell me. No, I gotta believe you. 882 01:17:13.410 --> 01:17:14.129 you know. 883 01:17:14.200 --> 01:17:15.059 Elizabeth Wright: Thank you. 884 01:17:15.290 --> 01:17:16.559 Alfie Jones: You look. 885 01:17:17.240 --> 01:17:18.419 frank murphy: We got it. 886 01:17:18.670 --> 01:17:21.019 Elizabeth Wright: Thank you all for what you do. 887 01:17:21.060 --> 01:17:23.200 frank murphy: Yeah, we've got a couple. 888 01:17:24.180 --> 01:17:33.070 Vicki Halliday: People would take some questions from the public. 889 01:17:33.330 --> 01:17:35.949 frank murphy: Looks like 3 questions. 890 01:17:36.250 --> 01:17:39.169 CJ Cole: Okay, this is not really a question. 891 01:17:39.240 --> 01:17:44.639 CJ Cole: but I think I say it every one of these meetings. It's wonderful to hear what everybody 892 01:17:44.770 --> 01:17:48.910 CJ Cole: and the homeless group wants us to give them free. 893 01:17:49.240 --> 01:17:52.549 CJ Cole: But it's a community. We have also got 894 01:17:52.640 --> 01:17:54.440 CJ Cole: desires and 895 01:17:54.460 --> 01:18:00.520 CJ Cole: things we need to, you know. Address you know. If if the 896 01:18:00.540 --> 01:18:02.960 CJ Cole: homeless cannot make themselves 897 01:18:03.590 --> 01:18:04.920 CJ Cole: solar. 898 01:18:05.430 --> 01:18:06.809 CJ Cole: and cannot 899 01:18:07.060 --> 01:18:23.430 CJ Cole: sure, whatever their mental problems are, so they can get a job and earn some money and support themselves. What are we we're not helping anybody with anything. It's just free giveaways. and that's what California has gotten known for. 900 01:18:23.470 --> 01:18:33.009 CJ Cole: and this is a a pure example of people taking up bed, space, and and not even utilizing other than free food. 901 01:18:34.250 --> 01:18:42.980 CJ Cole: What the what the facilities have to offer, and there just have to be some accountability, and I don't know how you're gonna do it. But 902 01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:51.580 CJ Cole: you know, without accountability all these systems are absolutely worthless. They're not getting anything accomplished. Thank you. 903 01:18:52.370 --> 01:18:53.450 Vicki Halliday: Cj. 904 01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:56.590 Vicki Halliday: Colony. Go ahead, please. 905 01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:02.170 Kalani W: Hello, Huh! 906 01:19:02.280 --> 01:19:05.200 Kalani W: I have listened intently 907 01:19:05.370 --> 01:19:07.040 Kalani W: to what you said. 908 01:19:07.080 --> 01:19:09.890 Kalani W: and thank you for confirming 909 01:19:10.060 --> 01:19:13.030 Kalani W: what I stated to Mike Bonn 910 01:19:13.070 --> 01:19:19.970 Kalani W: when that bridge housing opened, and I asked him if he would have Pat downs. They said No, he said no. 911 01:19:20.080 --> 01:19:28.130 Kalani W: and I told him. He was just one bed Fentanyl pill away from a tragedy if he allowed that to happen. 912 01:19:28.250 --> 01:19:29.719 Kalani W: and it sounds like 913 01:19:29.900 --> 01:19:31.410 Kalani W: exactly 914 01:19:31.890 --> 01:19:41.149 Kalani W: what I predicted has come true. Well, we could see that by by what was occurring on the sidewalks outside of that bridge, housing 915 01:19:41.550 --> 01:19:43.449 Kalani W: everything you've stated. 916 01:19:43.530 --> 01:19:47.729 Kalani W: the number of people increasing, dying of overdoses. 917 01:19:49.270 --> 01:19:52.859 Kalani W: Then the number of years that you yourselves have 918 01:19:53.020 --> 01:19:55.639 Kalani W: have spent on the streets 919 01:19:56.490 --> 01:19:59.419 Kalani W: makes my resolve even stronger. 920 01:19:59.450 --> 01:20:02.249 Kalani W: and I hope I wonder if you'd agree 921 01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:06.019 Kalani W: that instead of waiting for the patient 922 01:20:06.280 --> 01:20:07.780 Kalani W: to determine. 923 01:20:08.440 --> 01:20:10.569 Kalani W: the patient being the addict 924 01:20:10.600 --> 01:20:14.610 Kalani W: to determine, When is the right time 925 01:20:16.020 --> 01:20:17.950 Kalani W: for them to seek help. 926 01:20:19.670 --> 01:20:23.200 Kalani W: Would it not be more humane 927 01:20:23.780 --> 01:20:35.309 Kalani W: if we start mandating treatment and start them on the road to recovery, even if it takes 7, 8, 9 times for them 928 01:20:35.330 --> 01:20:40.060 Kalani W: for the for the addict or the patient to get it right. 929 01:20:40.680 --> 01:20:47.619 Kalani W: Would it not be more humane to start mandating treatment? And 930 01:20:49.300 --> 01:20:57.900 Kalani W: instead of waiting for a light bulb moment that could be 3 years down the road on the streets 931 01:20:58.000 --> 01:20:59.680 Kalani W: if they survive. 932 01:20:59.700 --> 01:21:06.839 Kalani W: because many are not surviving. Last I heard we're losing 4 to 5 a day on the streets 933 01:21:06.990 --> 01:21:10.500 Kalani W: due to drug overdoses or exposure. 934 01:21:11.020 --> 01:21:11.910 Kalani W: and 935 01:21:12.300 --> 01:21:15.340 Kalani W: we could possibly save some of those people 936 01:21:15.530 --> 01:21:25.419 Kalani W: if we started mandating treatment, focus on building rehab facilities with beds, and mandating treatment. 937 01:21:26.100 --> 01:21:27.270 Kalani W: and then 938 01:21:27.710 --> 01:21:29.599 Kalani W: and and outline 939 01:21:30.390 --> 01:21:32.200 Kalani W: living on the streets. 940 01:21:32.570 --> 01:21:35.769 Kalani W: When I moved here I was 18 years old. 941 01:21:36.720 --> 01:21:49.080 Kalani W: I missed I I before I took me 2 weeks to buy a car. I missed the the last bus to where I was staying. I was unaware that you you couldn't stay on the street. 942 01:21:49.180 --> 01:21:56.249 Kalani W: So I sat. My friend and I sat at the bus stop expecting that we would wait till the next morning 943 01:21:56.510 --> 01:22:02.360 Kalani W: for a bus. We quickly learned an Lapd officer pulled up 944 01:22:02.540 --> 01:22:08.840 Kalani W: and told us we could not sit at the bus stop overnight or sleep on the street. 945 01:22:08.910 --> 01:22:10.150 Kalani W: I understood. 946 01:22:10.230 --> 01:22:13.539 Kalani W: We went to an all night movie theater 947 01:22:13.890 --> 01:22:14.800 Kalani W: and 948 01:22:14.880 --> 01:22:19.399 Kalani W: waited there until it was time to catch our first bus home. 949 01:22:21.840 --> 01:22:24.229 Kalani W: And la was a better place then 950 01:22:25.400 --> 01:22:28.579 Kalani W: for for all of us, because it sounds like 951 01:22:28.810 --> 01:22:34.419 Kalani W: even you who who lived in the streets lived on live the experience it 952 01:22:34.810 --> 01:22:36.520 Kalani W: you you're telling us 953 01:22:36.660 --> 01:22:40.099 Kalani W: It was not humane. It was not pleasant. 954 01:22:40.240 --> 01:22:42.280 Kalani W: And you're lucky to have survived. 955 01:22:42.310 --> 01:22:47.230 Kalani W: so I I i'm a strong proponent of it's time to start 956 01:22:47.490 --> 01:22:49.740 Kalani W: mandating treatment. 957 01:22:49.870 --> 01:22:51.330 Kalani W: I hope you agree. 958 01:22:51.360 --> 01:22:53.610 Kalani W: Thank you. 959 01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:57.220 Vicki Halliday: Helen Fallon. Why, don't you go ahead, Ellen. 960 01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:02.340 Helen Fallon: Hi, Happy New Year Everybody 961 01:23:03.090 --> 01:23:06.849 Helen Fallon: having listen to this, and having also 962 01:23:06.900 --> 01:23:09.130 Helen Fallon: listen to other presentations. 963 01:23:09.350 --> 01:23:17.179 Helen Fallon: it seems like path. Is isn't really part of the solution at bridge. They may be part of the solution elsewhere, but they aren't doing it in Venice. 964 01:23:17.430 --> 01:23:18.949 Helen Fallon: They're part of the problem. 965 01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:22.189 Helen Fallon: and I think this has to be addressed by the Council office. 966 01:23:22.280 --> 01:23:27.439 Helen Fallon: and since we do have a new Council person. I think this is what this committee should be doing. It should be 967 01:23:27.580 --> 01:23:28.769 Helen Fallon: asking 968 01:23:28.940 --> 01:23:35.880 Helen Fallon: for the conditions and concrete objectives that path is contractually obligated to provide 969 01:23:36.110 --> 01:23:41.340 Helen Fallon: for them, to be demonstrating in most quarterly reports that none of us can ever seem to find 970 01:23:41.550 --> 01:23:52.429 Helen Fallon: that those things are out there that they're published, and they're transparent. They're meeting their goals because they have a contractual obligation for the 3 million dollars 971 01:23:52.450 --> 01:23:53.760 Helen Fallon: We're paying, though. 972 01:23:53.900 --> 01:23:59.630 Helen Fallon: to provide more than just what is being referred to as babysitting, which I think many of us 973 01:23:59.670 --> 01:24:02.359 Helen Fallon: in the community of observed the same thing. 974 01:24:02.490 --> 01:24:03.540 Helen Fallon: And 975 01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:06.689 Helen Fallon: you know the chaos that seems to be going on in there. 976 01:24:06.770 --> 01:24:07.630 Helen Fallon: So 977 01:24:07.780 --> 01:24:11.690 Helen Fallon: that's what I would like from this committee is that instead of 978 01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:18.060 Helen Fallon: hearing more horror stories or hearing more about the problems. Let's ensure that 979 01:24:19.100 --> 01:24:21.099 Helen Fallon: our new Council office. 980 01:24:21.140 --> 01:24:31.820 Helen Fallon: you know the new Council number starts asking for the facts and the concrete objectives. Are they being met, because if they're not half should be out of there. 981 01:24:31.860 --> 01:24:37.999 Helen Fallon: they got their contract renewed, but i'm sure it's conditioned to certain performance factors. 982 01:24:38.100 --> 01:24:40.780 Helen Fallon: So let's start asking for those. 983 01:24:41.740 --> 01:24:45.739 Helen Fallon: Otherwise we're just, you know, talking about it endlessly, and nothing happens. 984 01:24:46.240 --> 01:24:50.910 Helen Fallon: So that's where I hope you'll go for it. That's why I think the motion should be coming out of this committee. 985 01:24:51.110 --> 01:24:52.920 Helen Fallon: Thank you. 986 01:24:54.700 --> 01:24:58.009 Vicki Halliday: That's the last hand that was up right. So back to you. 987 01:24:58.900 --> 01:25:01.519 frank murphy: all right. Well, I think that's 988 01:25:02.660 --> 01:25:04.379 frank murphy: pretty much 989 01:25:08.100 --> 01:25:13.020 frank murphy: taking up a lot of your time, and I really appreciate Michael and 990 01:25:13.620 --> 01:25:19.410 frank murphy: and that we're Alfie that we're really appreciative of this 991 01:25:19.670 --> 01:25:21.569 frank murphy: presentation this evening. 992 01:25:21.590 --> 01:25:24.559 frank murphy: Thanks, Steve. And 993 01:25:25.100 --> 01:25:27.230 frank murphy: and I appreciate your time. 994 01:25:28.040 --> 01:25:28.960 Right? 995 01:25:29.300 --> 01:25:30.519 frank murphy: Thanks, Ali 996 01:25:30.550 --> 01:25:31.849 Michael Ridley: bye. 997 01:25:32.160 --> 01:25:33.070 Michael Ridley: i'm going. 998 01:25:34.070 --> 01:25:35.250 frank murphy: Thanks, man. 999 01:25:36.900 --> 01:25:37.910 Jody Mortimer: Thank you. Stan. 1000 01:25:38.030 --> 01:25:39.379 Ansar Muhammad: Oh, you guys take care. 1001 01:25:39.420 --> 01:25:40.230 Interesting 1002 01:25:41.710 --> 01:25:46.609 frank murphy: so we move on. We've got a next one motion this evening. 1003 01:25:47.430 --> 01:25:50.420 frank murphy: and this was submitted by Pat 1004 01:25:51.050 --> 01:25:52.959 and 1005 01:25:53.580 --> 01:25:56.680 frank murphy: that you want to read the motion. 1006 01:25:58.280 --> 01:26:01.089 frank murphy: or you want me to, or your call 1007 01:26:02.430 --> 01:26:04.169 PatRaphael: Funnyly enough 1008 01:26:04.410 --> 01:26:07.060 PatRaphael: you, you could go ahead. Yes, please read for me. 1009 01:26:07.390 --> 01:26:18.009 frank murphy: I couldn't get into the library because it was an incident today, and I couldn't print 1010 01:26:18.050 --> 01:26:19.429 frank murphy: all right. 1011 01:26:20.570 --> 01:26:29.099 frank murphy: Well, this is submitted by Pat is the subject of a community assistance program, parking program. 1012 01:26:29.400 --> 01:26:30.389 frank murphy: tap 1013 01:26:30.590 --> 01:26:33.060 frank murphy: community service implementation. 1014 01:26:33.210 --> 01:26:40.200 frank murphy: There is a growing population of Venice residents making long term use of vehicle dwelling as their solution for housing. 1015 01:26:40.430 --> 01:26:46.329 frank murphy: and in some instances this population represents a less visible subgroup 1016 01:26:46.380 --> 01:26:52.309 frank murphy: of unhoused in Venice, and may have less contact with aid in service agencies. 1017 01:26:53.640 --> 01:27:07.200 frank murphy: whereas in addressing the Preca, the precarious nature of this type of shelter solution, a major jeopardy is vehicles being told by the city due to parking tickets or registration issues. 1018 01:27:07.720 --> 01:27:10.779 frank murphy: whereas the cap is a solution 1019 01:27:11.160 --> 01:27:21.099 frank murphy: currently available where, in limited circumstances, a program of community service in Lua finds is available to unhoused neighbors 1020 01:27:21.120 --> 01:27:22.480 frank murphy: who qualified 1021 01:27:22.790 --> 01:27:25.209 frank murphy: and the final, whereas there is 1022 01:27:25.230 --> 01:27:31.929 frank murphy: currently limited West Side service providers with whom community service hours can be completed. 1023 01:27:31.950 --> 01:27:36.350 frank murphy: even though many service providers have operations in the West Side. 1024 01:27:37.100 --> 01:27:52.990 frank murphy: The motion then, is, therefore let it be resolved that the Bnc. Request relevant service providers, Saint Joseph Spy, a bridge home Opcc. The circle, team and etc., 1025 01:27:53.080 --> 01:27:57.870 frank murphy: explore the viability of becoming a community service 1026 01:27:57.930 --> 01:27:59.190 frank murphy: recipient 1027 01:27:59.230 --> 01:28:06.339 frank murphy: for how unhoused neighbors who live in their vehicles and who seek the use to use, Cap. 1028 01:28:07.900 --> 01:28:09.200 frank murphy: That's the 1029 01:28:09.490 --> 01:28:14.229 frank murphy: that is the motion that we would put forward to the 1030 01:28:14.810 --> 01:28:16.820 frank murphy: to the board. 1031 01:28:19.750 --> 01:28:23.200 frank murphy: we didn't have a specific 1032 01:28:27.720 --> 01:28:32.690 frank murphy: Persons for whom to send this to. so we'll need to. 1033 01:28:32.890 --> 01:28:34.569 frank murphy: we'll need to define that. 1034 01:28:35.450 --> 01:28:41.430 frank murphy: But would anybody like to, or I would like to make. I guess I can make the motion. 1035 01:28:41.590 --> 01:28:46.789 frank murphy: No, no, you can't. Okay. So would anybody else like to make the motion? 1036 01:28:46.870 --> 01:28:47.719 Elizabeth Wright: I will. 1037 01:28:48.540 --> 01:28:50.239 Vicki Halliday: Yeah, no second. Right. 1038 01:28:51.100 --> 01:28:52.540 frank murphy: So Elizabeth. 1039 01:28:53.800 --> 01:28:54.950 frank murphy: Okay. 1040 01:28:55.500 --> 01:28:57.030 frank murphy: And second tricky. 1041 01:28:57.290 --> 01:28:58.400 frank murphy: Alright. 1042 01:29:00.410 --> 01:29:02.530 frank murphy: So public comment. 1043 01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:09.360 frank murphy: Yeah, Lisa's hand is up. Let's go ahead. 1044 01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:18.700 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I think it would be really helpful if you explain to everybody what the cap program is. 1045 01:29:18.790 --> 01:29:21.450 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: and how it would be beneficial to people. 1046 01:29:21.530 --> 01:29:31.009 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: and why we need service providers here. I think everyone's left a lot. I think it would have been helpful if you have links to what that is. 1047 01:29:31.220 --> 01:29:32.760 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Also, 1048 01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:49.200 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I think we can look up. Who runs the Ca: I'm. Not even sure. I'm not that familiar with it myself, but it could look up. Who runs the Cap program in the city. And that's who you would need to send the motion to along with, you know, to your 1049 01:29:55.330 --> 01:29:56.400 frank murphy: Okay. 1050 01:29:59.160 --> 01:30:00.719 frank murphy: committee discussion. 1051 01:30:02.110 --> 01:30:04.950 frank murphy: There are no additional hands on. 1052 01:30:06.310 --> 01:30:08.400 frank murphy: Jodie. 1053 01:30:10.450 --> 01:30:11.829 Jody Mortimer: Yeah, I've 1054 01:30:12.410 --> 01:30:23.159 Jody Mortimer: the the with that motion on cap. That's a good idea with the link, but the link to what it actually is. I've looked into that, and it's it's run by the the by the city. 1055 01:30:23.260 --> 01:30:27.520 Jody Mortimer: but in order to use that you have to be registered as 1056 01:30:27.580 --> 01:30:40.099 Jody Mortimer: in the system, as homeless. So you had to apply for some type of service before it is a it's pretty confusing, but I think it's a it's a good idea that the service providers here in the area. 1057 01:30:41.960 --> 01:30:45.010 Jody Mortimer: you know, make the opportunity for people to do some 1058 01:30:45.070 --> 01:30:49.510 Jody Mortimer: volunteer work to work off some of those lines 1059 01:30:49.620 --> 01:30:50.830 Jody Mortimer: they do add up. 1060 01:30:52.760 --> 01:30:53.420 that's all. 1061 01:31:02.100 --> 01:31:06.600 frank murphy: yeah, Well, this you you you could have your hand up. 1062 01:31:07.640 --> 01:31:10.539 Elizabeth Wright: yes, I I googled cap. 1063 01:31:11.370 --> 01:31:16.530 Elizabeth Wright: and it send me straight to the Department of Transportation and the program. 1064 01:31:17.650 --> 01:31:19.929 Elizabeth Wright: So it was very easy to find 1065 01:31:21.450 --> 01:31:22.570 Elizabeth Wright: Apparently 1066 01:31:23.420 --> 01:31:26.509 Elizabeth Wright: people who are living in their vehicles 1067 01:31:27.190 --> 01:31:29.540 Elizabeth Wright: are prone to get parking tickets 1068 01:31:29.750 --> 01:31:32.010 Elizabeth Wright: get toed away 1069 01:31:32.320 --> 01:31:33.690 Elizabeth Wright: things of that sort. 1070 01:31:34.440 --> 01:31:35.210 Elizabeth Wright: And 1071 01:31:35.330 --> 01:31:37.419 Elizabeth Wright: the Cap program says. 1072 01:31:37.790 --> 01:31:40.819 Elizabeth Wright: Okay, you can provide community service 1073 01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:43.810 Elizabeth Wright: to a service provider. 1074 01:31:44.540 --> 01:31:47.750 Elizabeth Wright: one of the approved service providers 1075 01:31:48.130 --> 01:31:50.809 Elizabeth Wright: in lieu of having to pay all those fines. 1076 01:31:51.620 --> 01:31:54.640 Elizabeth Wright: So that that is really what it's all about. 1077 01:31:55.010 --> 01:31:56.840 Elizabeth Wright: But the buzzword 1078 01:31:57.000 --> 01:31:58.449 Elizabeth Wright: is approved. 1079 01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:03.900 Elizabeth Wright: and yes, there are service providers on the west side. 1080 01:32:03.990 --> 01:32:05.739 Elizabeth Wright: but not enough of them 1081 01:32:06.060 --> 01:32:08.110 Elizabeth Wright: are participating in the program. 1082 01:32:10.100 --> 01:32:13.929 Elizabeth Wright: So I took the liberty of trying to 1083 01:32:13.970 --> 01:32:17.770 Elizabeth Wright: and hence the wording a little bit. So the focus is. 1084 01:32:17.910 --> 01:32:20.129 Elizabeth Wright: Get the service providers 1085 01:32:20.550 --> 01:32:21.819 Elizabeth Wright: to step up. 1086 01:32:21.950 --> 01:32:23.240 Elizabeth Wright: evaluate. 1087 01:32:23.400 --> 01:32:25.049 Elizabeth Wright: and 1088 01:32:25.620 --> 01:32:29.529 Elizabeth Wright: to see what community service could be provided for them 1089 01:32:29.730 --> 01:32:31.290 Elizabeth Wright: as part of this program. 1090 01:32:35.690 --> 01:32:39.159 Elizabeth Wright: That's what that's what I did, and the motion needed some work. 1091 01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:45.699 frank murphy: Yeah, that's 1092 01:32:48.290 --> 01:32:57.189 frank murphy: That's exactly what I think. Pat was where Pat was going with the motion. Yeah. 1093 01:32:57.290 --> 01:33:00.029 Elizabeth Wright: Oh, yes, I do. 1094 01:33:00.550 --> 01:33:04.440 Elizabeth Wright: Any of the the motivation or any of that kind of stuff. 1095 01:33:05.110 --> 01:33:05.950 frank murphy: Yeah. 1096 01:33:07.060 --> 01:33:11.150 frank murphy: And if you would like to see it, I don't know how to do 1097 01:33:11.770 --> 01:33:14.319 Elizabeth Wright: so that you can see it. I have it on word. 1098 01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:17.710 frank murphy: Okay. 1099 01:33:18.530 --> 01:33:20.609 frank murphy: I don't know how to do that, either. 1100 01:33:21.370 --> 01:33:22.800 Vicki Halliday: What do you want to? 1101 01:33:22.840 --> 01:33:24.640 Vicki Halliday: What do you want up the motion. 1102 01:33:25.530 --> 01:33:26.679 Vicki Halliday: The agenda. 1103 01:33:29.120 --> 01:33:32.500 Elizabeth Wright: no. I want. I I did a word document. 1104 01:33:33.640 --> 01:33:37.629 Vicki Halliday: You can 1105 01:33:40.210 --> 01:33:43.690 Jody Mortimer: basically bring it up on your computer and to share screen 1106 01:33:44.020 --> 01:33:45.199 Elizabeth Wright: share screen. 1107 01:33:47.700 --> 01:33:48.460 Elizabeth Wright: I 1108 01:33:49.360 --> 01:33:52.789 Elizabeth Wright: it! Says host, disabled participant screen sharing. 1109 01:33:53.810 --> 01:33:55.240 Jody Mortimer: Oh, oh. 1110 01:34:13.380 --> 01:34:17.830 Vicki Halliday: it's the way Jim set this up when he booked it, and I can't. 1111 01:34:19.040 --> 01:34:20.750 Vicki Halliday: I can't. 1112 01:34:22.290 --> 01:34:24.019 Vicki Halliday: I don't think each day. 1113 01:34:24.900 --> 01:34:27.800 Vicki Halliday: But I don't see a way to undo 1114 01:34:27.880 --> 01:34:29.029 Vicki Halliday: this set up 1115 01:34:34.080 --> 01:34:42.009 Vicki Halliday: He's still showing up on the screen. 1116 01:34:42.510 --> 01:34:44.220 frank murphy: Yeah, he's left. Okay. 1117 01:34:44.660 --> 01:34:45.849 frank murphy: that makes sense. 1118 01:34:48.740 --> 01:34:50.770 frank murphy: answer. Stan. 1119 01:34:51.440 --> 01:34:55.599 Ansar Muhammad: Yeah, she spoke to it. Approved. 1120 01:34:55.910 --> 01:35:01.490 Ansar Muhammad: I know with the courts. Our agency is an approved agency that 1121 01:35:02.090 --> 01:35:18.319 Ansar Muhammad: receive folks when they go the open court proceedings and get community service hours. So these service providers would have to be on that list anyone to get credit for. 1122 01:35:18.820 --> 01:35:21.360 Ansar Muhammad: coming on to be about it Here 1123 01:35:21.450 --> 01:35:26.260 Ansar Muhammad: you have to go to the court first, and then you have to go through the actual agency 1124 01:35:26.600 --> 01:35:32.440 Ansar Muhammad: to get your name or get that agency name on the list. You have to provide them with your nonprofit status. 1125 01:35:32.600 --> 01:35:35.630 Ansar Muhammad: your articles, your bylaws the whole 9. So 1126 01:35:35.910 --> 01:35:40.820 Ansar Muhammad: that's the process. we've been on it for several years, but I remember the process of this. 1127 01:35:41.210 --> 01:35:43.779 Ansar Muhammad: You know it's a process, so we just can't say 1128 01:35:43.850 --> 01:35:49.210 Elizabeth Wright: folks is gonna go and volunteer for these days. 1129 01:35:49.280 --> 01:35:50.500 Elizabeth Wright: The motion. 1130 01:35:51.130 --> 01:35:53.409 Elizabeth Wright: My understanding of the motion is. 1131 01:35:53.510 --> 01:35:55.410 Elizabeth Wright: it's requesting the city 1132 01:35:55.890 --> 01:35:56.809 Elizabeth Wright: to 1133 01:35:57.100 --> 01:35:59.730 Elizabeth Wright: contact these service providers 1134 01:36:00.370 --> 01:36:04.760 Elizabeth Wright: and get them to evaluate and agree to participate. 1135 01:36:05.340 --> 01:36:08.910 Elizabeth Wright: agree to become a and approved for a service provider. 1136 01:36:10.100 --> 01:36:10.990 Okay. 1137 01:36:13.350 --> 01:36:20.829 PatRaphael: the the driving thing with me why I felt this was even something that should be part of the conversation. 1138 01:36:21.340 --> 01:36:27.460 PatRaphael: It was how hard it was to finally get approved right. It took like 6 months. 1139 01:36:27.510 --> 01:36:30.830 PatRaphael: they finally get approved, and this the once I got approved. 1140 01:36:31.470 --> 01:36:40.779 PatRaphael: the whole West Side is totally blank as far as service providers that can receive community service, and that was a little shocking. 1141 01:36:41.410 --> 01:36:47.180 PatRaphael: I just felt that as many footprints as there are, as as far as people that are 1142 01:36:47.260 --> 01:36:52.080 PatRaphael: speaking to be in direct contact with homeless folks, because I I see this as a 1143 01:36:52.120 --> 01:37:01.209 PatRaphael: as a possibility where you can have people come into your operation and tell you directly what they're given with, because they're experiencing 1144 01:37:01.250 --> 01:37:05.190 PatRaphael: the the the homelessness that you're seeking to deal with. 1145 01:37:05.230 --> 01:37:09.790 PatRaphael: and they can even affect how you deliver services which I think 1146 01:37:09.840 --> 01:37:11.219 PatRaphael: in the big picture 1147 01:37:11.270 --> 01:37:23.309 PatRaphael: would help. And then also, somebody can can can receive services to somebody that otherwise would not be on their radar to to to receive services. 1148 01:37:23.350 --> 01:37:30.780 PatRaphael: So it seemed to me like there was a lot of good reasons why we should try to court a closer relationship between people living in cars 1149 01:37:30.900 --> 01:37:34.590 PatRaphael: with the service providers that are already in operation. 1150 01:37:37.350 --> 01:37:38.190 Ansar Muhammad: 2 1151 01:37:41.690 --> 01:37:42.710 frank murphy: call it 1152 01:37:50.270 --> 01:37:50.929 I 1153 01:37:51.220 --> 01:38:03.000 C Bailey: I feel like we just talked about how the service providers in our area are inefficient and unaccountable, and Aren't doing their job and a whole host of other things. 1154 01:38:03.180 --> 01:38:04.200 C Bailey: So 1155 01:38:04.520 --> 01:38:07.310 C Bailey: it's not that i'm against it. It's just that 1156 01:38:07.960 --> 01:38:12.890 C Bailey: shouldn't we be fixed figuring out how to get service providers here 1157 01:38:13.100 --> 01:38:18.310 C Bailey: that actually help people, whether they're in a car or a trailer or a 1158 01:38:18.460 --> 01:38:19.879 C Bailey: tent or a 1159 01:38:20.860 --> 01:38:24.190 C Bailey: wherever they may have to exist outside of housing. 1160 01:38:25.320 --> 01:38:28.709 C Bailey: Get some people who actually are doing their job 1161 01:38:30.180 --> 01:38:31.919 C Bailey: stand, for instance. 1162 01:38:32.480 --> 01:38:35.840 C Bailey: because we have this number we can call them if it doesn't happen right? 1163 01:38:36.070 --> 01:38:38.030 C Bailey: So anyway, it's it. 1164 01:38:38.310 --> 01:38:39.360 C Bailey: I just 1165 01:38:40.050 --> 01:38:43.519 C Bailey: It's not that i'm against it. But like who? Who Who are we going to contact 1166 01:38:43.560 --> 01:38:50.850 C Bailey: path? We just talked about how terrible they are the spy! I I just i'm a little confused. That's all. 1167 01:38:52.620 --> 01:38:54.920 Elizabeth Wright: My My understanding is. 1168 01:38:55.390 --> 01:38:57.380 Elizabeth Wright: this has to go to the city. 1169 01:38:58.360 --> 01:39:00.410 Elizabeth Wright: not to the agencies. 1170 01:39:00.820 --> 01:39:07.510 Elizabeth Wright: because the the city has the contract. So they have the the wait to say, by the way 1171 01:39:07.580 --> 01:39:12.129 Elizabeth Wright: for this multi-million dollar contract. Part of it really should be 1172 01:39:12.660 --> 01:39:14.710 Elizabeth Wright: assisting people in 1173 01:39:15.080 --> 01:39:16.269 Elizabeth Wright: living in 1174 01:39:17.520 --> 01:39:19.920 Elizabeth Wright: cars and and mobile homes. 1175 01:39:21.200 --> 01:39:25.589 Elizabeth Wright: But that is, all can also be a win-win situation, because. 1176 01:39:26.160 --> 01:39:28.410 Elizabeth Wright: as part of the community service. 1177 01:39:28.680 --> 01:39:32.150 Elizabeth Wright: they can perhaps do some of the stuff that the 1178 01:39:33.250 --> 01:39:36.820 Elizabeth Wright: agencies are current committed to do, but they're not doing 1179 01:39:40.320 --> 01:39:47.039 frank murphy: well. Camp the Service providers request to be a part of the cap 1180 01:39:47.460 --> 01:39:51.639 frank murphy: process, and and it would seem to me that 1181 01:39:51.810 --> 01:39:54.790 frank murphy: you know they would want that 1182 01:39:55.520 --> 01:39:58.109 frank murphy: that the actual 1183 01:39:58.220 --> 01:40:00.450 frank murphy: free labor. 1184 01:40:00.620 --> 01:40:01.959 frank murphy: you know. I mean 1185 01:40:02.750 --> 01:40:04.300 frank murphy: at least 1186 01:40:04.380 --> 01:40:12.009 frank murphy: you know they don't have to pay the fines to d ot waves. The fines for that service, and the services 1187 01:40:12.100 --> 01:40:13.920 frank murphy: something they get for free 1188 01:40:15.570 --> 01:40:22.339 frank murphy: seem to me like they should be able to be more than willing to, and that bridges that gap between. 1189 01:40:22.520 --> 01:40:27.039 frank murphy: You know the the service providers and the people that need this services 1190 01:40:27.480 --> 01:40:35.479 frank murphy: helps to bridge that gap. But anyhow, that's just my thought on that 1191 01:40:35.650 --> 01:40:38.960 Elizabeth Wright: that the Neighborhood Council talks to the city and not 1192 01:40:39.440 --> 01:40:42.419 frank murphy: yeah, that could be yeah. 1193 01:40:43.370 --> 01:40:52.050 Brian U: But, Elizabeth, the the city doesn't have these contracts the county does. Lasa has the contracts for all service provider contracts. 1194 01:40:52.120 --> 01:41:05.009 Brian U: You might get a recommendation from the city to use this, then it goes to Lhasa. Lhasa hires half lost a higher Saint Joseph center, and then oversees those contracts. The city is real estate. The county is services. 1195 01:41:09.700 --> 01:41:16.480 frank murphy: So in that in in in that way of looking at it we could send this motion. 1196 01:41:16.750 --> 01:41:19.540 frank murphy: It looks like this would probably have to be 1197 01:41:19.950 --> 01:41:21.739 frank murphy: has to be rewarded. 1198 01:41:23.270 --> 01:41:28.700 PatRaphael: I felt like there was something mining in the original wording, because in the original wording 1199 01:41:29.040 --> 01:41:31.530 PatRaphael: I tried to stress that. 1200 01:41:32.030 --> 01:41:39.080 PatRaphael: we don't want a scenario where a bunch of people start losing their vehicles and end up on the street. 1201 01:41:39.590 --> 01:41:44.109 PatRaphael: so that seems to be the the driving force that I'm: I'm. Trying to 1202 01:41:44.310 --> 01:41:47.319 PatRaphael: have focused because it is a shelter solution. 1203 01:41:51.170 --> 01:41:54.219 frank murphy: Well, it seems like that's a 2 way street, so 1204 01:41:54.370 --> 01:42:00.770 frank murphy: you would have people not losing their vehicles, and you would have service providers being able to have 1205 01:42:01.290 --> 01:42:02.989 frank murphy: have additional health. 1206 01:42:14.620 --> 01:42:17.249 frank murphy: Anybody else have any ideas on this. 1207 01:42:23.440 --> 01:42:25.470 frank murphy: Well, if you if 1208 01:42:26.980 --> 01:42:29.240 frank murphy: if you want 1209 01:42:31.880 --> 01:42:37.839 frank murphy: we can attempt another rewrite on this pat. Would you be willing to do that, or 1210 01:42:39.400 --> 01:42:40.930 frank murphy: exactly something? 1211 01:42:42.440 --> 01:42:45.139 PatRaphael: I I gotta figure out or get a sense of 1212 01:42:45.460 --> 01:42:55.160 PatRaphael: where should I be focusing? My, because this is the first time I've ever written the motion. So thank you for everybody that that helps boost it up for me. But, 1213 01:42:55.360 --> 01:42:58.460 PatRaphael: I I gotta get a sense of what 1214 01:42:58.750 --> 01:43:00.390 PatRaphael: areas I should be 1215 01:43:00.760 --> 01:43:03.469 PatRaphael: concentrating on. If i'm rewriting. 1216 01:43:04.170 --> 01:43:10.790 frank murphy: well, let's work on it with If anybody else can lend a helping hand, too. 1217 01:43:11.570 --> 01:43:13.930 frank murphy: we can help that together. 1218 01:43:14.560 --> 01:43:24.669 Jody Mortimer: Yeah, this is the specifics of who the city I think. There you will go into the city to ask them to reach out, not the care providers to 1219 01:43:24.930 --> 01:43:26.019 Jody Mortimer: to 1220 01:43:26.570 --> 01:43:27.939 Jody Mortimer: to reach out to the city 1221 01:43:30.120 --> 01:43:36.260 frank murphy: what seemed to me that we would be reaching out to the city to reach out to the care providers. 1222 01:43:37.360 --> 01:43:44.069 frank murphy: or, however, that because Brian knows more about how that what all the hoops are you have to go through? 1223 01:43:44.220 --> 01:43:48.879 Vicki Halliday: Well, but but in the case of like Saint Joseph. They've got something 1224 01:43:49.070 --> 01:43:51.570 Vicki Halliday: enough with the city, I mean. There's 1225 01:43:51.760 --> 01:43:55.500 Vicki Halliday: Adams up there and press conference with Bass. 1226 01:43:56.400 --> 01:43:57.580 Vicki Halliday: So 1227 01:43:57.960 --> 01:44:03.649 Vicki Halliday: yeah, they've got a deal going with the city, so I would say, send it to Tracy and the Mayor. 1228 01:44:04.050 --> 01:44:05.890 Vicki Halliday: and let them figure it out. 1229 01:44:07.420 --> 01:44:09.909 Jody Mortimer: This is why I wanted to keep my nonprofit. 1230 01:44:11.310 --> 01:44:18.149 Jody Mortimer: I just can't. It was done. It was always done it everything for it. And then you lift it up. 1231 01:44:18.180 --> 01:44:23.189 frank murphy: Hey, Jody, you're my 1232 01:44:24.260 --> 01:44:25.340 Jody Mortimer: sorry. 1233 01:44:25.610 --> 01:44:35.129 PatRaphael: I thought he was talking to us for a second, but we did like the 3, the 3, 1234 01:44:35.490 --> 01:44:38.830 PatRaphael: the recipients that we were thinking about. 1235 01:44:38.920 --> 01:44:41.719 PatRaphael: We're saying to Tracy to the Mayor 1236 01:44:41.800 --> 01:44:47.269 PatRaphael: into the director of the Cap program, which is somebody that I can 1237 01:44:47.340 --> 01:44:50.130 PatRaphael: figure out, because I've already been speaking with somebody 1238 01:44:50.280 --> 01:44:51.920 PatRaphael: in the program to 1239 01:44:51.960 --> 01:44:55.349 PatRaphael: kind of get some background, and they gave me some websites and 1240 01:44:55.410 --> 01:45:00.479 PatRaphael: pamphlets. and they said they're reaching out to some of these folks as well. 1241 01:45:00.530 --> 01:45:05.370 PatRaphael: Upon hearing that this was something that could that could be expanded on 1242 01:45:05.480 --> 01:45:07.630 PatRaphael: so so could that be 1243 01:45:07.700 --> 01:45:09.670 PatRaphael: kind of the direction we go with this? 1244 01:45:09.820 --> 01:45:11.050 PatRaphael: And then, 1245 01:45:11.190 --> 01:45:17.209 PatRaphael: absolutely recipients. All we would need is something that's more actionable is what i'm hearing 1246 01:45:17.260 --> 01:45:19.769 PatRaphael: that's not so vague, but 1247 01:45:19.850 --> 01:45:25.050 PatRaphael: gives the recipients exactly a a direction to going 1248 01:45:27.370 --> 01:45:29.029 frank murphy: that makes sense to me. 1249 01:45:34.840 --> 01:45:37.900 frank murphy: Well, I would say, we table it 1250 01:45:38.370 --> 01:45:42.989 frank murphy: table this, and do we have to take a vote on tabling it. Elizabeth. 1251 01:45:44.240 --> 01:45:45.340 frank murphy: this 1252 01:45:48.380 --> 01:45:49.380 Brian U: on mute 1253 01:45:54.800 --> 01:45:55.710 frank murphy: Liz. 1254 01:45:59.130 --> 01:46:01.380 frank murphy: you're on mute. You're on mute. 1255 01:46:06.020 --> 01:46:08.960 Elizabeth Wright: I think you do have to vote to table it. 1256 01:46:10.590 --> 01:46:15.429 Elizabeth Wright: or whatever you do, table. It, postpon it whatever 1257 01:46:16.200 --> 01:46:18.449 frank murphy: All right. 1258 01:46:19.520 --> 01:46:24.509 frank murphy: So somebody needs to. I guess we can just take a vote on tabling it. 1259 01:46:27.490 --> 01:46:28.799 Vicki Halliday: Let's take a boat. 1260 01:46:29.090 --> 01:46:31.259 frank murphy: Take a vote I'll I'll 1261 01:46:32.680 --> 01:46:34.040 frank murphy: yeah 1262 01:46:35.240 --> 01:46:36.119 Brian U: table it 1263 01:46:38.070 --> 01:46:39.160 frank murphy: cool that. 1264 01:46:41.030 --> 01:46:41.809 Okay, bye. 1265 01:46:41.840 --> 01:46:43.210 Elizabeth Wright: Was it seconded? 1266 01:46:43.660 --> 01:46:47.379 Vicki Halliday: Oh, I can something whatever. Let's just move it along 1267 01:46:48.340 --> 01:46:49.250 frank murphy: alright. 1268 01:46:50.270 --> 01:46:51.099 frank murphy: that. 1269 01:46:52.840 --> 01:46:53.660 PatRaphael: Yes. 1270 01:46:54.770 --> 01:46:55.780 frank murphy: Stan. 1271 01:46:56.590 --> 01:46:57.400 Ansar Muhammad: Yes 1272 01:46:57.490 --> 01:46:58.360 C Bailey: or not. 1273 01:46:58.770 --> 01:46:59.820 frank murphy: Jody. 1274 01:47:00.160 --> 01:47:01.359 Jody Mortimer: Yes. Sample 1275 01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:03.730 frank murphy: Frank Jable. 1276 01:47:04.030 --> 01:47:06.060 frank murphy: Okay. So that's unanimous. 1277 01:47:09.320 --> 01:47:12.550 frank murphy: All right. That's that's the 1278 01:47:13.290 --> 01:47:15.079 frank murphy: last on that one. 1279 01:47:15.660 --> 01:47:17.460 frank murphy: Now we have public comment. 1280 01:47:19.370 --> 01:47:25.359 frank murphy: it looks like we've got 3 hands up for public comment on on agenda items. 1281 01:47:25.730 --> 01:47:27.330 frank murphy: Oh, i'm sorry, Vicki. 1282 01:47:28.620 --> 01:47:29.840 Vicki Halliday: Never mind. 1283 01:47:30.790 --> 01:47:32.770 frank murphy: I didn't have you checked off. 1284 01:47:34.800 --> 01:47:40.170 Vicki Halliday: It's all right, Not important. let's go to public comment. Lisa. Go ahead, please. 1285 01:47:46.600 --> 01:47:47.550 Vicki Halliday: Lisa. 1286 01:47:48.960 --> 01:47:57.689 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Am I muted? I was waiting for the No. You've been unmuted. Okay, Good thing. I'm on good behavior today. 1287 01:47:58.850 --> 01:48:12.910 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I think something was off Parliament for your procedure there with the boat. But whatever I want to talk about winter shelters, and that there is like next to no winter shelters. 1288 01:48:12.980 --> 01:48:27.209 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: the share, of course. Once again there's nothing for spa 5 anywhere near here. finally, because we are having an actual winter this year. they have put together a 1289 01:48:27.400 --> 01:48:33.580 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: augmented winter shelter program, and i'm sure that none of you know about this 1290 01:48:33.870 --> 01:48:42.139 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: and people can call 2, 1, one, and get themselves into a bed at a winter shelter if there's not 1291 01:48:42.260 --> 01:48:51.420 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: a shelter bed available. They will issue a motel voucher, which is basically there's no winter. Shed shelter beds available anywhere on the West Side. 1292 01:48:51.460 --> 01:48:54.679 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: and they're supposed to 1293 01:48:54.710 --> 01:48:56.819 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: get people picked up 1294 01:48:57.160 --> 01:49:01.299 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: and taken to these winter shelters, or with the motel vouchers. 1295 01:49:01.630 --> 01:49:06.700 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I don't know how that's happening. Loss is supposed to be out there letting people know 1296 01:49:06.810 --> 01:49:25.580 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: It's cold. It's raining. It's terrible. We're supposed to have the worst storm starting tomorrow this winter. When you're in a wet. You're like basically living in a refrigerated box, and it's just ridiculous that we have so many people dive exposure in Los Angeles. 1297 01:49:25.730 --> 01:49:34.549 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I would like to see motions come out of here demanding more winter shelter. Yes, it's wonderful. We're going to get everybody inside state, but that's not going to happen overnight. 1298 01:49:34.670 --> 01:49:43.270 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: and until then people are still living on the street, and we still need to account for the humanity and stop as many deaths as possible. 1299 01:49:44.180 --> 01:49:52.699 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I wish. What about emotion that maybe you know the la do t hires community groups to do outreach for them? That's what should be happening 1300 01:49:52.730 --> 01:49:58.430 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: with here in the city, hiring people like me to go out and do the outreach 1301 01:49:58.620 --> 01:50:03.929 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: to get people so that they can get to winter shelters. I don't think loss, or anyone's prepared. 1302 01:50:04.030 --> 01:50:09.579 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Say, a 1,000 people call in the city of Los Angeles tomorrow, wanting a shelter bed. 1303 01:50:10.380 --> 01:50:17.229 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: i'm just pointing out an issue and a crisis that is happening right now, and a massive danger 1304 01:50:17.260 --> 01:50:20.360 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: with deaf imminent for many people. 1305 01:50:21.110 --> 01:50:21.889 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: That's all. 1306 01:50:23.550 --> 01:50:26.839 Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Lisa. come on, you go ahead, please. 1307 01:50:29.450 --> 01:50:33.860 Kalani W: I wonder if people are listening 1308 01:50:33.930 --> 01:50:38.250 Kalani W: to some of the presentation, because tonight we 1309 01:50:38.570 --> 01:50:43.470 Kalani W: tonight we heard during the presentation how inept 1310 01:50:45.240 --> 01:50:51.449 Kalani W: Saint Joseph has been spy has been the bridge housing has been. 1311 01:50:51.490 --> 01:50:53.989 Kalani W: and then, in the very next. 1312 01:50:54.060 --> 01:50:59.530 Kalani W: A, on the very the very next item addressed on the agenda 1313 01:50:59.640 --> 01:51:04.990 Kalani W: proposed that those same agencies be given more tasks. 1314 01:51:05.140 --> 01:51:06.290 Kalani W: 4 cap 1315 01:51:06.700 --> 01:51:17.439 Kalani W: I I, and a lot of time was wasted before it was even determined that the item needed to go back to the drawing board and and table. 1316 01:51:17.780 --> 01:51:20.769 Kalani W: we need to be more considerate of 1317 01:51:20.900 --> 01:51:21.820 Kalani W: of ours. 1318 01:51:21.970 --> 01:51:26.299 Kalani W: of not just your time. But stakeholders time. 1319 01:51:26.850 --> 01:51:36.600 Kalani W: you know we have less than 1% stakeholder participation, and i'm sure that the upcoming elections will show that it's even less than that. 1320 01:51:36.960 --> 01:51:38.539 Kalani W: less than 1321 01:51:39.300 --> 01:51:41.639 Kalani W: ha one half of 1%. 1322 01:51:42.580 --> 01:51:45.000 Kalani W: We need to do better when we're 1323 01:51:45.650 --> 01:51:59.329 Kalani W: having items like this a a presentation that everyone agrees was very informative, and then a proposal that list. All of the the people stated 1324 01:51:59.750 --> 01:52:02.630 Kalani W: the the program stated 1325 01:52:03.390 --> 01:52:05.260 Kalani W: in the presentation 1326 01:52:06.320 --> 01:52:09.460 Kalani W: that it was stated that all those programs to add 1327 01:52:10.010 --> 01:52:16.260 Kalani W: had huge failures. Yet we want to task them with with a cap program. 1328 01:52:16.430 --> 01:52:31.580 Kalani W: I You know that it to me that was laughable. That being said, yes, a lot of people are on the streets, but we have to also acknowledge that the city is providing hotel motel vouchers 1329 01:52:31.590 --> 01:52:43.700 Kalani W: and do it doing what they can. We, we fail to address that many of the people on the street, and it became glaringly obvious during covid that they have 1330 01:52:44.020 --> 01:52:46.309 Kalani W: anti-social behavior 1331 01:52:46.360 --> 01:53:08.350 Kalani W: more mental health behavior. They don't want to be around people the person that has a bed at bridge housing, but doesn't want to sleep in that bed, but would rather sleep in his tent. That's antisocial behavior, and that's why I keep saying we need to start mandating waiting for a person with a mental health or a drug 1332 01:53:08.360 --> 01:53:20.040 Kalani W: abuse issue to have a light bulb moment makes it dangerous for that person and dangerous for us. So we need to start getting tough and mandating. 1333 01:53:20.200 --> 01:53:21.170 Kalani W: Thank you. 1334 01:53:21.520 --> 01:53:23.650 Vicki Halliday: Thank you. 1335 01:53:24.020 --> 01:53:27.690 Vicki Halliday: Last speaker. 2,023. Go ahead, please. 1336 01:53:31.600 --> 01:53:32.809 2023: Yes. 1337 01:53:33.170 --> 01:53:36.480 2023: and an unhappy New Year to all of you humans. 1338 01:53:37.040 --> 01:53:39.839 2023: Thank you. You're walked on. Yes. 1339 01:53:39.900 --> 01:53:41.190 2023: so 1340 01:53:41.260 --> 01:53:50.219 2023: I've been around the streets of Venice before the storms, tents everywhere. Rvs. Everywhere. 1341 01:53:50.510 --> 01:53:53.589 2023: but as a saw and Brian know. 1342 01:53:53.670 --> 01:53:57.960 2023: they've been encroaching, moving across the border 1343 01:53:58.160 --> 01:54:05.099 2023: on Washington Boulevard into Marina Dory. Holy Shit! 1344 01:54:05.620 --> 01:54:06.500 Ansar Muhammad: What 1345 01:54:06.510 --> 01:54:26.429 2023: that's impossible! Yes, homeless invading the invasion from Venice has now occurred into the delay all the way into Via Marina. All the way down the Bora Bora, all the way down into the multi 1 million dollar complexes. 1346 01:54:26.510 --> 01:54:33.340 2023: and there's little cars driven by security guards now patrolling 24 h a day. 1347 01:54:33.590 --> 01:54:37.020 2023: So goat puppet did some investigating. 1348 01:54:37.250 --> 01:54:46.640 2023: Oh, shit. Yes, there's been a 44% increase in calls for service and problems in Marina del Ray. 1349 01:54:47.560 --> 01:54:50.309 2023: Now, what are you guys gonna do? 1350 01:54:50.330 --> 01:55:01.270 2023: Are you gonna take away the only sanctuary I have as an animal, or you're going to turn Marina del Ray into Venice. 2 point. Oh, I asked you. 1351 01:55:01.440 --> 01:55:03.189 2023: what are you up to. 1352 01:55:03.250 --> 01:55:12.529 2023: Are you doing this to get back for me, forcing my bon and off the Council? It's not my fault, my bon, and wanted to leave 1353 01:55:12.740 --> 01:55:16.650 2023: my bonnet's insane, and everybody hates them 1354 01:55:16.900 --> 01:55:18.700 2023: except for Nouri. 1355 01:55:20.100 --> 01:55:25.879 2023: What? Yes, I'll talk more about that offline. So to conclude. 1356 01:55:25.890 --> 01:55:40.699 2023: your population is invading the most expensive lease area in the United States of America. Congratulations, Venice. You are now pushing your problems under the unincorporated. 1357 01:55:41.200 --> 01:55:43.969 2023: Yes, that's right. 1358 01:55:44.080 --> 01:55:47.330 Vicki Halliday: Thank you. 1359 01:55:47.350 --> 01:55:51.640 2023: Yes. Let's build a wall on Washington Boulevard. I make a motion. 1360 01:55:51.700 --> 01:55:55.580 2023: Second. 1361 01:55:55.630 --> 01:55:58.540 frank murphy: all right. 1362 01:55:58.720 --> 01:55:59.910 Ansar Muhammad: is the 1363 01:56:01.810 --> 01:56:04.090 okay 1364 01:56:05.050 --> 01:56:08.309 frank murphy: we're down to 1365 01:56:09.140 --> 01:56:12.740 frank murphy: committee comments on things that our agenda is 1366 01:56:13.570 --> 01:56:22.800 Vicki Halliday: in line with this comment about, and I think, Helen, too, about motions that we should be doing. 1367 01:56:23.040 --> 01:56:28.330 Vicki Halliday: You know we do encourage members of the public to bring us motions. 1368 01:56:28.410 --> 01:56:35.759 Vicki Halliday: So if there's stuff like that that that you're interested in, that, you're passionate about, write the motion, and we'll certainly 1369 01:56:35.810 --> 01:56:38.490 Vicki Halliday: go through it here it would be great. Thank you. 1370 01:56:42.800 --> 01:56:46.540 frank murphy: Yeah, I I I I I agree. 1371 01:56:50.680 --> 01:56:55.710 frank murphy: I had a couple of things that. I wanted to just highlight 1372 01:56:56.040 --> 01:57:02.250 frank murphy: One of the things is, we've been talking a lot about the accountability of the service providers. 1373 01:57:02.370 --> 01:57:07.519 frank murphy: and that's one one item we need to address 1374 01:57:09.670 --> 01:57:14.930 frank murphy: and the other is Pat has talked about in the past is. 1375 01:57:15.110 --> 01:57:18.010 frank murphy: what does what does success look like 1376 01:57:18.320 --> 01:57:23.969 frank murphy: in our efforts? And that's a I think a pretty legitimate question, too. 1377 01:57:24.150 --> 01:57:27.560 frank murphy: and not as esoteric as you might think. 1378 01:57:29.340 --> 01:57:34.150 frank murphy: Anyhow, I just wanted to bring those those 2 points up. 1379 01:57:34.290 --> 01:57:39.329 frank murphy: and and I agree with Vicki as far as writing 1380 01:57:39.660 --> 01:57:47.190 frank murphy: writing motions. and i'd like to see a motion from Lisa and also Helen. 1381 01:57:53.080 --> 01:57:56.479 frank murphy: anybody else. Stan, did you? Every hand up? 1382 01:57:57.010 --> 01:58:04.399 Ansar Muhammad: That is the con, I guess the closing remarks. I just want to thank everybody for now, my my my team to be on the night. 1383 01:58:04.990 --> 01:58:10.769 Ansar Muhammad: and I could tell you guys just listening and paying close attention to what they was talking about. So thank you for that. 1384 01:58:11.090 --> 01:58:12.869 Ansar Muhammad: right in the middle of this 1385 01:58:13.100 --> 01:58:16.900 Ansar Muhammad: zoom tonight. I got a text from Michael that there is a body 1386 01:58:17.470 --> 01:58:27.000 Ansar Muhammad: laid out on Lincoln, Lincoln, and 1387 01:58:27.060 --> 01:58:27.750 so 1388 01:58:28.560 --> 01:58:32.580 Ansar Muhammad: whoever, that is the family in prayer, you know. So thank you. 1389 01:58:33.060 --> 01:58:33.690 Hmm. 1390 01:58:38.120 --> 01:58:40.559 PatRaphael: I'm gonna try to keep this under a minute. 1391 01:58:41.010 --> 01:58:43.489 PatRaphael: I I had a 1392 01:58:44.080 --> 01:58:44.959 Jody Mortimer: we'll see 1393 01:58:45.720 --> 01:58:46.370 PatRaphael: I 1394 01:58:46.390 --> 01:58:48.850 PatRaphael: I I had a situation happen 1395 01:58:49.090 --> 01:58:50.990 PatRaphael: few weeks back. 1396 01:58:51.320 --> 01:58:52.720 PatRaphael: and I really 1397 01:58:52.740 --> 01:58:57.160 PatRaphael: went out of my I I was sleeping in my Rv. And there was somebody yelling in the corner 1398 01:58:57.190 --> 01:58:57.760 PatRaphael: right. 1399 01:58:57.860 --> 01:59:00.620 PatRaphael: and I yield out of hey! Shut up! And then afterwards 1400 01:59:00.720 --> 01:59:02.529 PatRaphael: I left out of my 1401 01:59:02.780 --> 01:59:04.159 PatRaphael: place to go 1402 01:59:04.240 --> 01:59:11.179 PatRaphael: talk to that person, and then when I got there low, and behold it, somebody that I knew, and then, because it was somebody that I knew 1403 01:59:11.320 --> 01:59:13.669 PatRaphael: the whole approach had to be different. 1404 01:59:13.810 --> 01:59:19.550 PatRaphael: and what I could say to him to kind of reason with him, 1405 01:59:19.700 --> 01:59:20.559 PatRaphael: was. 1406 01:59:21.130 --> 01:59:23.770 PatRaphael: I had a whole different range of options. 1407 01:59:23.900 --> 01:59:28.540 PatRaphael: So i'm just saying this to encourage as much as possible. 1408 01:59:28.610 --> 01:59:30.719 PatRaphael: Let us get to know our neighbors. 1409 01:59:30.950 --> 01:59:32.749 PatRaphael: Let us get to know our neighbors, because 1410 01:59:32.850 --> 01:59:37.519 PatRaphael: when that happened again about a week or a half 2 weeks later. 1411 01:59:37.550 --> 01:59:41.680 PatRaphael: somebody else was screaming because of that interaction. 1412 01:59:41.800 --> 01:59:43.369 PatRaphael: I thought of the next 1413 01:59:44.280 --> 01:59:45.870 PatRaphael: conversation differently. 1414 01:59:46.110 --> 01:59:51.009 PatRaphael: I didn't go out there so angrily, ready to do something if I I went out there trying to talk 1415 01:59:51.120 --> 01:59:53.000 PatRaphael: in that person. Just kind of 1416 01:59:53.160 --> 01:59:56.280 PatRaphael: kept it moving. So it's it's it's 1417 01:59:56.590 --> 01:59:58.499 PatRaphael: one of the best things we can do 1418 01:59:58.620 --> 02:00:00.780 PatRaphael: to make people feel like 1419 02:00:00.950 --> 02:00:07.079 PatRaphael: there's accountability is when you get to know somebody, and you can tell them what to do, so to speak. 1420 02:00:09.780 --> 02:00:11.019 frank murphy: Thanks, Pat. 1421 02:00:12.280 --> 02:00:13.219 frank murphy: Jody. 1422 02:00:14.540 --> 02:00:15.580 Jody Mortimer: Thank you. Frank. 1423 02:00:15.770 --> 02:00:18.029 Jody Mortimer: yeah for saying yeah. 1424 02:00:18.500 --> 02:00:24.809 Jody Mortimer: Pat. And yeah, it's all about. Approach really is all about approach. I want to put a a 1425 02:00:25.650 --> 02:00:39.040 Jody Mortimer: just emphasize that. I'm very much in t in favor of stance. Intentional outreach. That's where we should be working for it. I want to adjust colonies issue earlier. i'm wondering should we mandate? 1426 02:00:39.750 --> 02:00:50.840 Jody Mortimer: rehab and recovery, that that the colony, if she's still listening, that that is in the works they're called California Care Courts. They're being brought up. It's going to be. 1427 02:00:50.900 --> 02:01:08.290 Jody Mortimer: you know. It's I think we had Stacy on that talked about how long it's going to take to get the get the beds back up the the the facilities back going again. But that is the the money is there, and that is intentional. So these these we are going back to a system of 1428 02:01:09.420 --> 02:01:10.550 Jody Mortimer: mandating 1429 02:01:10.700 --> 02:01:28.189 Jody Mortimer: recovery and mandating mental health. that they take medicine and stuff like that that should help out a lot. We it's got to be closely monitored, for example, in in Mexico, if you're homeless, and I've known a few people that are Mexican citizens that 1430 02:01:28.200 --> 02:01:31.970 Jody Mortimer: they would just come up in a pick up truck, and they just rip you off the streets. 1431 02:01:32.300 --> 02:01:38.150 Jody Mortimer: that's what they do there, and i'm not saying that's what we're going to do here. But in other countries that's what they do. 1432 02:01:38.430 --> 02:01:43.459 Jody Mortimer: And I think I had one more one more thing, but thank you very much. 1433 02:01:45.850 --> 02:01:47.549 Jody Mortimer: that's it. Thanks for it. 1434 02:01:49.920 --> 02:01:51.049 frank murphy: Thanks, Jody. 1435 02:01:52.930 --> 02:01:58.460 Brian U: All right, Frank. I think it would be a great idea to have someone from Tracy's 1436 02:01:58.520 --> 02:02:02.069 Brian U: office invited to be on this call every month. 1437 02:02:02.410 --> 02:02:09.910 Brian U: Because I think a lot of the things that we're trying to do. We're responding and reacting, based on how we used to do business, and that we weren't heard 1438 02:02:09.930 --> 02:02:20.310 Brian U: for the Council Office, or any of that. I believe that this Council Office has reached out with an oly branch. They've brought in Clint Carlton to be their homeless outside guy. 1439 02:02:20.370 --> 02:02:39.819 Brian U: maybe they would give us an idea of how they want us to deal with them on these different issues that come up. You know they're kind of right now. It's birthed by fire hose. They're getting yelled at from them. So if we could just bring them in, I saw Vicki. You have a question. it would be great if we just brought them to the okay. Thanks. Go ahead. 1440 02:02:40.060 --> 02:02:47.340 Vicki Halliday: Yeah. It is that they do not have the staffing in place yet. They have reps that come to each of these meetings. 1441 02:02:47.450 --> 02:03:02.540 Vicki Halliday: Clint we're gonna invite certainly. Once once he's a little bit more integrated and understands what's going on, maybe even at the end of this month. But I had already talked with them until we get our field reps in place. 1442 02:03:03.100 --> 02:03:11.300 Vicki Halliday: I don't think that they're quite ready, I mean i'm sure they will be in a few weeks, but, as you well know, the process was a little bit this time. 1443 02:03:11.690 --> 02:03:13.540 Vicki Halliday: So that's that's why I think 1444 02:03:13.690 --> 02:03:24.980 Brian U: I think we have a bigger olive branch with this group than we were dealing with before, and I think if we just hear how they want to receive information from us, we want to do it as streamline as possible 1445 02:03:25.190 --> 02:03:29.699 Brian U: instead of just thinking of it. And then we just send something that's gonna fall on death. Here. 1446 02:03:29.920 --> 02:03:31.939 Brian U: let's work with them and versus against them. 1447 02:03:32.660 --> 02:03:33.789 frank murphy: I agree 1448 02:03:34.620 --> 02:03:41.649 Jody Mortimer: right? I I forgot the one of the most i'm sorry to interrupt, but I did forget what what I really wanted to say to the board to the committee. 1449 02:03:43.390 --> 02:03:46.730 Jody Mortimer: as I thought, from our last meeting last month. 1450 02:03:46.840 --> 02:03:57.910 Jody Mortimer: when the presentation was done on the the 4 different, already ready ground for breaking the ground. that that are in Venice. There's already 4 sites 1451 02:03:58.010 --> 02:04:00.470 Jody Mortimer: that meet all of the really really strict 1452 02:04:00.510 --> 02:04:17.610 Jody Mortimer: criteria. Why is there any way that we can at least pick one site? We can have a couple of members, and then and then vote on one site, and then go forward with this side, and this is more to that one. a lady's comment about 1453 02:04:17.650 --> 02:04:21.130 Jody Mortimer: Flower Street finding a place to that we can. 1454 02:04:23.230 --> 02:04:25.970 Jody Mortimer: you know, have a start building some of these. 1455 02:04:26.490 --> 02:04:36.190 Jody Mortimer: I guess this tent city or the the the small houses. But we first can. We at least pick one site and then go forward with that when it's 1456 02:04:36.630 --> 02:04:39.859 Jody Mortimer: That's my, that's my statement. Slash question 1457 02:04:40.020 --> 02:04:46.420 frank murphy: we have. We have. We've been we're gonna do another joint meeting with the 1458 02:04:46.690 --> 02:04:48.130 frank murphy: What loopak 1459 02:04:48.290 --> 02:04:56.840 frank murphy: on the eighteenth where we're actually that's that's the that's the main thrust of those meetings is to determine 1460 02:04:57.180 --> 02:04:58.830 frank murphy: how to approach 1461 02:04:59.690 --> 02:05:03.459 frank murphy: how to approach that and where to place it. 1462 02:05:04.000 --> 02:05:05.650 Jody Mortimer: So okay, so that's right. 1463 02:05:06.030 --> 02:05:11.350 frank murphy: I'm I hear you. That's that's one of the things that we need to do 1464 02:05:11.710 --> 02:05:15.830 frank murphy: as a community. But of course we need to make sure that we. 1465 02:05:16.170 --> 02:05:29.109 frank murphy: you know we are only focused on the Venice Neighborhood Council area, not any other areas. So we need to be respectful of other areas, but within our own community. 1466 02:05:29.180 --> 02:05:30.649 frank murphy: where and how 1467 02:05:30.890 --> 02:05:39.349 frank murphy: and we're one of the most we have the highest rates of almost all low-income housing and 1468 02:05:39.600 --> 02:05:45.569 frank murphy: and and homeless concentration, and most other areas in the city. 1469 02:05:46.720 --> 02:05:47.690 frank murphy: So 1470 02:05:47.830 --> 02:05:48.540 sorry. 1471 02:05:49.830 --> 02:05:50.459 Jody Mortimer: Thank you. 1472 02:05:52.920 --> 02:05:54.119 frank murphy: Anybody else. 1473 02:05:55.660 --> 02:05:59.199 Ansar Muhammad: I just realized I'm going to meet with Clinton tomorrow. 1474 02:06:00.320 --> 02:06:03.619 Ansar Muhammad: Brian is good. Yeah, I spoke to me with him tomorrow. 1475 02:06:05.530 --> 02:06:12.840 frank murphy: Yeah, we I I invited him to attend the meeting, but not as a participant. 1476 02:06:13.010 --> 02:06:18.100 frank murphy: just as a attendee, but I didn't see him come up on the 1477 02:06:18.160 --> 02:06:18.929 frank murphy: screen 1478 02:06:20.200 --> 02:06:26.959 frank murphy: and like and like Nicki was saying, there, those guys are. Those guys are under the gun Big time. 1479 02:06:29.680 --> 02:06:32.990 frank murphy: So that's good to hear that you're going to be meeting with them. Stand 1480 02:06:33.170 --> 02:06:41.509 Ansar Muhammad: with him. I'm waiting with him tomorrow, too. Okay, he's negative. Well. 1481 02:06:41.900 --> 02:06:43.750 frank murphy: excellent, excellent. 1482 02:06:43.860 --> 02:06:46.199 frank murphy: All right guys. 1483 02:06:46.850 --> 02:06:49.020 frank murphy: well, let's adjourn. 1484 02:06:50.010 --> 02:06:52.689 frank murphy: Alright, Thank you guys. Thank you, Stan, for having. 1485 02:06:52.870 --> 02:06:59.909 Vicki Halliday: If you ever need to copy anything, just come on right around the block for me. You could use my cop here 1486 02:07:00.030 --> 02:07:02.540 frank murphy: alright, perfect 1487 02:07:02.910 --> 02:07:07.290 frank murphy: and Pat, we'll get together on that motion so we can get that rewritten. 1488 02:07:07.610 --> 02:07:08.940 PatRaphael: Let's do it 1489 02:07:09.470 --> 02:07:10.650 frank murphy: All right, guys. 1490 02:07:10.880 --> 02:07:16.420 Jody Mortimer: I'll be in Oregon 22 degrees tomorrow. 1491 02:07:16.680 --> 02:07:19.660 frank murphy: Yeah, Take care of yourself. 1492 02:07:19.900 --> 02:07:20.690 Jody Mortimer: Thanks. 1493 02:07:21.700 --> 02:07:22.490 Ansar Muhammad: alright.