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Jody Mortimer: Can you hear me taking?

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Vicki Halliday: Yeah, I can. I'm trying to promote people.

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Jody Mortimer: My camera is not working

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Vicki Halliday: right. Let me promote you to Co-host.

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frank murphy: Okay, Can you hear me?

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Vicki Halliday: Yup.

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frank murphy: Yeah, I figured on that. on being able to.

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frank murphy: yeah, both maybe we should do a timeline for maybe 15 min for

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frank murphy: look back 15 min for

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frank murphy: homeless.

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Vicki Halliday: He could do that, and then then I would have some at the end where there can be some interchange between the 2 committees

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frank murphy: That makes sense. However, you and Mikkel want to do it.

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frank murphy: I'm in such space with.

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Vicki Halliday: Well, maybe mention that to him at the beginning of the meeting.

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frank murphy: Yeah, I will. Okay.

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Vicki Halliday: no. Let me pull it up because i'm gonna have to

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Vicki Halliday: figure out all the Olympic members.

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frank murphy: I'll hey? I'm Dario! Come on now.

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Jody Mortimer: Hey, Frank!

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frank murphy: Hey, Joni, how's it going, man?

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Jody Mortimer: Doing good no camera today?

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frank murphy: No? Well, that I must be trading with you, because I think it was what 2 meetings ago I didn't have a camera

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frank murphy: I don't know, and the and the damn thing cured itself. I don't trust it.

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Jody Mortimer: I think mine went down when I went from

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Jody Mortimer: windows 10 to 11,

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frank murphy: you know what? Oh, you've probably already tried that. I I just take it and reboot it

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frank murphy: when I have an issue, and then sometimes it comes back on. But I don't know

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Jody Mortimer: I I try going back to 10,

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frank murphy: I doubt. Do you think that would have? Well, that's I don't know anything about this stuff so

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Jody Mortimer: could be broken because My, i'm pretty hard on the net. But

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frank murphy: oh.

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frank murphy: oh, good, good good

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frank murphy: Liz! How you doing?

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Elizabeth Wright: I am doing pretty well. How are you doing?

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frank murphy: Well, we're

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frank murphy: we're we're we're getting these meetings, and we got

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frank murphy: 2 meetings in less than a week and a half.

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frank murphy: and

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frank murphy: having

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frank murphy: being as as

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frank murphy: tech on savvy as I am. That's amazing.

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frank murphy: Thank God for Vicki.

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Elizabeth Wright: i'll second that.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

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Elizabeth Wright: Vicki. I don't know how you do all this stuff

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Vicki Halliday: kind of hard sometimes, but you know it is what it is, Liz.

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frank murphy: I didn't hear back from

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frank murphy: didn't Did Michael just trying to get on

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frank murphy: is that who I heard a little while earlier? I'm watching. I'm watching.

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frank murphy: you know, I didn't get a chance to attach a file.

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frank murphy: I probably can't do that at this point. To what?

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frank murphy: to the meeting.

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frank murphy: so people could tap into the file.

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Vicki Halliday: Well, Dario is going to screen share. So

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frank murphy: yeah, and I have a I have it's a 14 page

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Vicki Halliday: file. Dario just sent it over. Well.

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Vicki Halliday: I guess it's too late.

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frank murphy: Yes, too late. but what I could do is You can tell people it will be there in the morning.

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frank murphy: Yeah, i'll, I'll I'll put it out there tonight or tomorrow morning. Yeah.

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frank murphy: And then hopefully, if if Mike's up for it will, we will,

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frank murphy: you know, be able to do

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frank murphy: a few more meetings on this.

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frank murphy: follow it up a little bit more

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frank murphy: with some broader issues. Also because we have a lot of you know. There's so much involved in this in this

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frank murphy: topic.

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frank murphy: and there's so much

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frank murphy: on

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frank murphy: data that needs to be crushed.

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frank murphy: and people need to need to know about it.

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frank murphy: Because if we if we let it slide, it'll get something will happen anyhow.

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frank murphy: That's never going to be too pretty.

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frank murphy: So we got an okay from Stan we got an okay from

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frank murphy: Oh, here's

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Dario Alvarez: Hi, Vicky! Hi! This

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Dario Alvarez: good to see you.

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Dario Alvarez: And so there are you

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frank murphy: and Jody Doesn't have his screen tonight, so

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frank murphy: we'll have to.

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frank murphy: We'll have to catch his lovely misogyny. And at a later date

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PatRaphael: Hi, guys.

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Dario Alvarez: hi, pat!

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PatRaphael: I made it all right. Pad

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PatRaphael: I had a bit of a

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PatRaphael: vehicle emergency

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frank murphy: when I wait to Staples

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PatRaphael: my drive shaft came off, but lucky for me, I got a toyota.

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PatRaphael: I look down at. Oh, I just need 4 screws.

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PatRaphael: Everything is for screws with the Toyota. So i'm solicited Toyota Commercial. I guess.

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frank murphy: Yeah.

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PatRaphael: All right. So i'm going to go off-camera because I'm just going to be mostly here to listen.

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frank murphy: Well, all right. We need your input too, though.

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PatRaphael: well, I mean, if you know if

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PatRaphael: i'm a little talking to you when I feel like I have to. So I don't think that it's a burning inside. I'll say something, but most likely i'm just here to listen. Sounds good. Sounds good.

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frank murphy: I hear my other computer. I'll go back. I'll be right back.

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frank murphy: Hey, Dario! Which page Was that missing

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Vicki Halliday: Hi, Lauren?

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frank murphy: Hey, Lauren, how you doing

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lauren siegel: doing Well, how about you guys?

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frank murphy: Good, good.

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Dario Alvarez: Frank! It was missing the second page of the budget.

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Dario Alvarez: Hi, Lauren.

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lauren siegel: Hi, there!

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frank murphy: Yeah, let's see.

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lauren siegel: So, Frank, have you been getting many Rsvps for next week

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frank murphy: I didn't Rsvp: it. So I kind of got to be a surprise. I sent it out to the Vnc. As well as Lupik. Just so, everybody knows, because they were asking for it.

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frank murphy: Oh, good. Good.

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frank murphy: Yeah, I think it's gonna be well attended. And

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frank murphy: and

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frank murphy: yeah, i'll send it out to all of all of Homeless committee

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frank murphy: almost this committee and i'll, and i'll

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frank murphy: I don't know. I think

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frank murphy: Barry was sending it some places, and

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frank murphy: great and

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frank murphy: who else did we have I'm trying to promote you.

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Vicki Halliday: I'm trying to get him in that

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Vicki Halliday: he keeps declining.

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lauren siegel: Maybe he doesn't really want to come.

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Vicki Halliday: Let me promote Michael

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Vicki Halliday: to a co-host, so he can start promoting some of his loopy bluepeck people.

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Vicki Halliday: There, you go Michael you got privileges.

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Vicki Halliday: I'm trying to get people in as fast as I can.

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frank murphy: Oh, yeah, there's

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frank murphy: can I promote or yeah, you can.

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Corinne baginski: Hi, guys.

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lauren siegel: hey, Karen?

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frank murphy: Oh, there you are.

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frank murphy: good, good.

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lauren siegel: nice. So I saw an email to Lup from from Dario's information. But there were no attachments

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lauren siegel: anything about that.

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lauren siegel: It came through from Daryl Duffy.

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frank murphy: That was a separate

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Vicki Halliday: That was the

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lauren siegel: got it.

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frank murphy: Yeah, we'll have ours posted tomorrow.

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frank murphy: I just got it about 10 min ago.

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frank murphy: Dario is working on it all the way up to the last minute.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, guys, I'm trying to promote people to panelists, and it's coming back

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Vicki Halliday: very often that you're declining like Barry.

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lauren siegel: That sounds like Barry.

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Michael Jensen: I promoted Barry.

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Vicki Halliday: Oh, I tried

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lauren siegel: There he is.

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Vicki Halliday: This Promote him to manage trying to promote Shannon Brian

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Vicki Halliday: some. Maybe it's just jumping around here.

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Vicki Halliday: Actually, Jacob Berman in the audience. Welcome, Jacob.

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Vicki Halliday: You are already working.

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Jacob Burman: Oh, can you hear me? Yes, we can. Hi, Jacob!

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Vicki Halliday: Jacob is with Tracy Park's office.

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frank murphy: Hey, Jacob, how you doing

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Jacob Burman: good! How are you? It's good to see you again, Frank.

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frank murphy: Good to see you Our good day.

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frank murphy: All right, Brian.

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Elizabeth Wright: You back.

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Andrew Mika: We start.

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Ansar Muhammad: It's good to see you, Brian.

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frank murphy: Hey, Brian, you gotta unmute.

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frank murphy: We want to hear you.

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Vicki Halliday: Frank. We could, If If we're all here, why don't you call the role for Homelessness Committee.

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Vicki Halliday: and then we can get this thing going.

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Brian U: Thank you all for your support. By the way. Thank you.

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frank murphy: You're welcome.

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frank murphy: So call them to order

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frank murphy: roll call for the Homelessness Committee.

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frank murphy: I'm here.

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frank murphy: pat

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frank murphy: Brian here

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frank murphy: that

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frank murphy: Vicki: Here.

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frank murphy: stand

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frank murphy: Jody.

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Jody Mortimer: Yeah.

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frank murphy: Pat unmute yourself.

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frank murphy: I know you're here.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay? Well.

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Vicki Halliday: let's keep moving.

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frank murphy: all right. turned over to Mikkel, so we can call. Well.

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Michael Jensen: all right. So I am here, Corinne

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Corinne baginski: Here.

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lauren siegel: here.

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Michael Jensen: Christopher, I don't see him very

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Matthew Royce: here.

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Michael Jensen: and Jeff Martin.

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Michael Jensen: and see how many

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Michael Jensen: Jeff are you in the audience. If you are just please raise your hand.

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Michael Jensen: Okay, Don't: see him.

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frank murphy: Okay.

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frank murphy: So we we are set to go. I wanted to

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frank murphy: just make a

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frank murphy: statement here under the chair reports, and then.

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frank murphy: and Mike, if you want to. Also

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frank murphy: basically what I wanted to

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frank murphy: state, which I want to state again that homelessness being accommodated on the streets and sidewalks of our community, and the city as a whole.

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frank murphy: is the most inhumane, brutal, unsafe and unsanitary emergency shelter solution

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frank murphy: for both the unhoused and the house populations

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frank murphy: This is not a zero-sum game jail versus the street.

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frank murphy: As some would have you believe

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frank murphy: I've been aware of multiple solutions for cost-effective emergency shelter presented to the powers that be

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frank murphy: from this committee the Board members of the bnc and the knowledgeable residents of the Venice community.

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frank murphy: The new homeless counts were put out by Lhasa they represent a substantial decline from 2,020 to 2,022

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frank murphy: in CD. 11 of 37, and in Venice of 51, that's a decline

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frank murphy: with that being said, Venice accounts for 5% of the area, 14% of the population

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frank murphy: and 16 of the housing stock of all of CD. 11,

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frank murphy: while accommodating 45 of the homeless population

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frank murphy: keep in mind, though, that the homeless population for all of the city of all of La has increased by 4%.

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frank murphy: So their head. So there is a big shuffle going on

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frank murphy: Dario's study being presented today deals in no small part with 2 models dealing with homelessness on the streets and sidewalks.

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frank murphy: One is emergency housing.

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frank murphy: the other is emergency shelters.

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frank murphy: and where and how they can be accommodated.

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frank murphy: What our goal is tonight is to challenge the community to participate in selections of parcels and methods before they are enclosed upon us.

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frank murphy: The discussion and efforts that we are participating in today are focused specifically on the Venice Neighborhood Council area.

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frank murphy: and how it can participate

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frank murphy: in helping resolve the district and city-wide issues around homelessness.

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frank murphy: so that's my

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frank murphy: 2 cents out the gate. Mike.

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Michael Jensen: I don't think I have a report. I think we're here to mostly.

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Michael Jensen: Listen and see how we can help in framing or advising on the land. Use sort of

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Michael Jensen: aspects of what

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Michael Jensen: what you guys are looking to do.

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Michael Jensen: So I don't Really, I don't have a report.

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Michael Jensen: but we're happy to join you for this meeting, and thank you to the committee members who could make this

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Michael Jensen: this meeting.

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frank murphy: Okay, so the items for discussion and possible action.

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frank murphy: we may or may not have a motion.

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frank murphy: We're going to have a presentation. I want to introduce

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frank murphy: Dario Alvarez and and

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frank murphy: i'll just make a quick statement about that

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frank murphy: presentation, as it lies in the in our

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frank murphy: in our agenda.

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frank murphy: So Tracy Park, our new Council person is elected doing large part on solving our homelessness issues.

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frank murphy: Karen Bass, our new mayor, is poised to confront housing, shell, housing, and shelter on day. One and Governor Newsom has committed himself to substantially enforcing

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frank murphy: the housing requirements stipulated requirements stipulated by the arena numbers.

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frank murphy: it has become very apparent that solutions are being considered, and if we, as a community, are not

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frank murphy: substantively involved. These solutions will be imposed upon us. There are 3 phases to the dilemma we are facing. One is emergency shelters.

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frank murphy: 2 is intermediate, intermediate temporary housing.

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frank murphy: and 3 is long-term housing equilibrium.

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frank murphy: We are here today to review and consider sites to accommodate emergency.

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frank murphy: safe and sanitary, camping and parking to that end

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frank murphy: Dario Daryl Rodman Alvarez will share share with us parcel availability based on criteria stipulated by various agencies, courts, ordinances, and etc.

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frank murphy: So that was the

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frank murphy: presentation after Dario gives his presentation.

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frank murphy: We're going to take comments from the we we're gonna take exchange from the

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frank murphy: audience 1 min for question. 30 s for follow up

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frank murphy: just so we can keep it.

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frank murphy: Keep a fairly tight timeline on it, because there's a lot of people participating in a lot of people that need to need to be heard.

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frank murphy: And then we were going to have Council members.

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frank murphy: Q. A. Also amongst

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frank murphy: between the 2 of us between both

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frank murphy: agencies, and we want to make sure that,

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frank murphy: you know, we get

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frank murphy: homelessness.

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frank murphy: so that we can start to put together a

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frank murphy: a coherent

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frank murphy: and and coherent

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frank murphy: we as a community, can

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frank murphy: can get behind.

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frank murphy: So, anyhow, all that being said, Dario.

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frank murphy: You got it, and you probably need to stick, share, screen, and

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frank murphy: let's go.

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Dario Alvarez: Let's get right into it

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Dario Alvarez: in

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Dario Alvarez: 2,022.

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Dario Alvarez: The Los Angeles homeless services authority also

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Dario Alvarez: counted 1,704 unsheltered individuals in Council district. 11

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Dario Alvarez: emergency interim housing provides an alternative to sleeping outside, and some of its associated risks.

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Dario Alvarez: A review of best practices for interim and permanent support of housing identifies a scattered site. Approach the

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Dario Alvarez: as more desirable than concentrating populations in a few very large housing.

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Dario Alvarez: also, a hybrid construction method that combines finished, prefabricated modules with prefabricated panels that are site assembled

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Dario Alvarez: and fully site built units, bridges the current limits of any individual sector of the home building industry.

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Dario Alvarez: This report

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Dario Alvarez: show to all of you. It contains a list of 57 individually vetted, suitable sites across Council District 11

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Dario Alvarez: that provide a range of options in the interest of immediate implementation.

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Dario Alvarez: and in the event of new site, design, considerations, or selection criteria.

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Dario Alvarez: This report is unique in that it provides one a greater number of sites and other similar studies to

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Dario Alvarez: schematic architectural site plan, and for

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Dario Alvarez: 3 it applies spatial analysis to it to evaluate, and rank sites, using composite sites and ability scores

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Dario Alvarez: the suitability of sites has been evaluated. Using a mixed methods approach that combines geographic information systems, spatial analysis, tools.

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Dario Alvarez: qualitative data from stakeholder interviews, the literature review of best practices, precedent studies, and architectural feasibility reviews on an individual site by site basis.

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Dario Alvarez: while it's known that some unhouse individuals have rejected interim housing opportunities in the past.

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Dario Alvarez: Further research is required to quantify the portion of the 1,704 UN sheltered individuals in Council District 11 who would willingly accept interim housing, and under which conditions

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Dario Alvarez: preliminarily. This study considers 50% acceptance rate and discusses interim housing for 852 individuals.

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Dario Alvarez: In some there are 5 recommended steps for the rapid implementation of 852 beds in Council district. 11

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Dario Alvarez: decision-makers need to select a minimum a minimum of 29 sites.

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Dario Alvarez: second, a site plan that uses a kid of parts approach. That's pre-approved for construction

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Dario Alvarez: is prepared for each site.

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Dario Alvarez: Then 3 site. Owners are engaged in order to acquire the development rights for the proposed site. Plan

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Dario Alvarez: for bidding for builders and or material suppliers is performed to ensure competitive rates and construction calendars, and 5 immediately begin construction of a hybrid approach.

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Dario Alvarez: That combines typical site built work

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Dario Alvarez: fully prefabricated interim housing units that are built off site, then installed and finished on site.

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Dario Alvarez: So the programmatic elements for an interim housing site

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Dario Alvarez: There are. There's a 400 square foot minimum

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Dario Alvarez: a minimum site area of 12,000 square feet to house those 30 individuals and 29 sites at Minimum in Council district, 11 for an aggregate site area of 7.8 acres, or 340,800 for for 852.

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Dario Alvarez: Now, whereas an aggregate area of 7.8 acres across 29 sites is required in district 11 for 852 bit.

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Dario Alvarez: Once again. This report provides 57 sites

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Dario Alvarez: with an aggregate area in excess of 95 acres and a potential that capacity of more than 10,400 deaths.

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Dario Alvarez: In other words, there are options from which to choose.

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Dario Alvarez: and we're also, including schematic architectural side, and for fun layouts that illustrate the gift parts in the full reform which is available online

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Dario Alvarez: providing beds for interim housing of either 852, or 1,074 on sheltered individuals and Council District 11 is not only possible it's necessary

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Dario Alvarez: to begin addressing the homelessness crisis in the city of Los Angeles.

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Dario Alvarez: This plan hopefully demonstrates that Council District 11 can provide interim housing for our most vulnerable neighbors immediately at a competitive cost

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Dario Alvarez: in sites that are geographically distributed throughout the district and near known encampments.

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Dario Alvarez: so there are several things that are included here.

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Dario Alvarez: There's a web browser interface that we've prepared in order to allow

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Dario Alvarez: the public to peruse the sides and look at them individually.

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Dario Alvarez: There is a canz format file that allows folks to look at the sites. Any Google Earth

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Dario Alvarez: I'm. Going to speak to the methods that we use.

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Dario Alvarez: So the ongoing research question that we're looking at is how to identify sufficient government-owned sites that are feasible for the rapid placement of interim housing

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Dario Alvarez: for the All on shelter population of Council district alone.

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Dario Alvarez: using hybrid building methods that combine on-site and off-site prefabricated modules

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Dario Alvarez: near known encountered and geographically dispersed with a minimum count of 30 and maximum of 120 Ps. Per site.

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Dario Alvarez: Economies of scale up to a certain point may lower costs and allow the

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Dario Alvarez: for more centralized service facilities and utilities, and the savings may exceed the costs of added security for larger sites.

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Dario Alvarez: but also expanding the the bed count criteria

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Dario Alvarez: So for purposes of this report we're looking at 30 bed

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Dario Alvarez: The suitability. We evaluated using a mixed methods approach

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Dario Alvarez: to analyze several publicly available data sources to identify government-owned parsons and Council district 11 suitable for interim housing

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Dario Alvarez: and we use geographic information systems. Gis spatial analysis tools to exclude portions of the sites where there's a slope greater than 15%.

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Dario Alvarez: In other words, we're selecting only relatively level sites. We're excluding city parks and beaches, excluding areas within airport noise, contours

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Dario Alvarez: excluding sensitive ecological areas, as well as a 6 hundred-foot buffer around schools.

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Dario Alvarez: So then we developed a a ringing

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Dario Alvarez: that was directly proportional to the existing density of the shelter population in the census track, the proximity to existing fire hydrants proximity to sewer connections

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Dario Alvarez: and inversely proportional to the average sale price per square foot. In other words, we're getting higher. Ranking to lower cost sites

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Dario Alvarez: subsequently additional sites that are privately owned, either by faith based organizations and utility company, or some other organization that could be amenable to public private partnership. We're also identified and presented in this report as additional opportunities

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Dario Alvarez: for the city. Our preliminator and preliminary analyses identified 3,200 potential suitable sites and 233 in council district. 11

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Dario Alvarez: potential sites were individually reviewed for architectural site, design feasibility.

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Dario Alvarez: As I mentioned, we use precedent studies and a review of best practices

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Dario Alvarez: whereas the site density of permanent housing projects requires 650 square feet of site, area per bed

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Dario Alvarez: interim housing sites or shelters require only 400 square feet of site area per bed.

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Dario Alvarez: So, therefore, a 30 bed site requires approximately 12 fathers for a food

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Dario Alvarez: and in the aggregate, as I mentioned, 7.8 is for Council District 11,

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Dario Alvarez: which translates to 29 total sites, with no less than 30 bets.

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Dario Alvarez: And once again, as I mentioned, the 57 sites that i'm. Showing on screen right now

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Dario Alvarez: they represent a capacity of more than 10,400 bets, using these criteria

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Dario Alvarez: once again regarding construction methods for greater flexibility of both on-site and off-site prefabrication.

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Dario Alvarez: we're considering prescriptive building specifications, one story fire protected typical wood, framing also known as type 5 a construction

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Dario Alvarez: which is pre-approved for construction by the department of building and safety.

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Dario Alvarez: which can reduce not only calendar duration and cost. But it's simple enough to be scaled

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Dario Alvarez: while government owned sites are prefer preferable for rapid implementation, certain private organizations may willingly make their land available

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Dario Alvarez: last, it's. It's worth noting that the the model that we developed to rank potentially suitable land and remove unsuitable land. It can be modified to take in additional criteria.

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Dario Alvarez: and which is, I think, important to know, for additional public input.

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Dario Alvarez: So regarding the selection of sites, it can happen a number of ways

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Dario Alvarez: along the the community plan, areas, instead of being somewhere between 35 and 41% of the shelters Venice would take on 19% of the shelters

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Dario Alvarez: the existing count of UN sheltered individuals were using the 2,022 loss account.

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Dario Alvarez: and although placement of housing near existing countenance may be desirable, it could also place an undue burden on areas that have historically had to deal with more than on house population, such as that is.

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Dario Alvarez: then it's worth noting; that also that the housing first approach acknowledges the inordinate cost to the State that results from the unhoused condition of many.

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Dario Alvarez: And there's a potential net benefiting cost by bringing people indoors. In other words, the cost of providing housing for the entire unhouse population may be less than the various costs that are currently incurred

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Dario Alvarez: and by serving the on-house population in the status quo.

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Dario Alvarez: So it's perhaps equally important to acknowledge the root causes of the current housing crisis, which is 50 years in the making, and that the shifts required for the Sea of Los Angeles to bridge it's housing that, and they continue along with path of equitable housing. They ought to be initiated now.

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Dario Alvarez: and given that the long-term nature of the expected changes

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Dario Alvarez: so stated differently the immediate supply of a in from housing for 852 individuals is very important.

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Dario Alvarez: and then again, so is an annual supply of 3,260 below moderate income housing units

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Dario Alvarez: in Council District 11, and a structural shift away from the exclusionary zoning policies that are at the root of the housing shortage

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Dario Alvarez: to a new zoning regime that responds to the full range opportunities and demand for housing in Los Angeles

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Dario Alvarez: also on area. For further research includes a shift from quote unquote enforcement by various law enforcement agencies, which is also referred to as clearing or sleeping encampments, one

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Dario Alvarez: to a social service outreach for voluntary placement in transitional housing.

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Dario Alvarez: conventional housing conventional wisdom maintains that the UN shelter are unwilling to voluntarily relocate to transitional housing.

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Dario Alvarez: however qualitative data from one-on-one interviews with UN sheltered individual has indicated that the

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Dario Alvarez: whereas overly restrictive conditions on housing, cure for fuse and drug testing, hinder voluntary relocation. Less restrictive transitional housing would willingly be accepted

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Dario Alvarez: along this line of inquiry. It's worth evaluating what share of the in-house population would willingly accept less restrictive temporary housing

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Dario Alvarez: and the reductions of costs associated with serving the same population in a house as opposed to an unhouse condition.

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Dario Alvarez: I can speak somewhat about the implementation of the 852 beds and the model modular design approach.

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Dario Alvarez: But i'll summarize the the program for District 11.

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Dario Alvarez: We're talking about 400 square feet of site, area per bed.

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Dario Alvarez: a 30 bed minimum for site, maximum, 120 beds.

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Dario Alvarez: minimum site, area of 12,000 support from that house 30 individuals.

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Dario Alvarez: 852 beds in Council District 11, which represents 50% of the current UN sheltered population.

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Dario Alvarez: approximately 29 total sites.

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Dario Alvarez: an aggregate area of 7 point, 8 acres.

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Dario Alvarez: administrative buildings at the sites which include offices a commercial kitchen dining facility, laundry, outdoor dining area connection to the Internet wi-fi and other amenities.

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Dario Alvarez: centralized power and an Hbac to allow for both grid connected and islanded micro-grid promotes

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Dario Alvarez: site security cameras on site, security personnel, electronic access at site and unit entries.

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Dario Alvarez: solar electricity were practicable solar water for heating white and full roots, shading devices plus a fire rating installation and windows to the current title. 24 energy efficiency standards.

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Dario Alvarez: minimum sound transformation, class and impact insulation class at 50,

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Dario Alvarez: and paint and cement board citing exceeds, and plywood reinforced

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Dario Alvarez: painted gyps on board interiors. All of this said

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Dario Alvarez: represents

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Dario Alvarez: an estimated cost per bed of less than $15,000.

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Dario Alvarez: So we take all of the

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Dario Alvarez: take off

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Dario Alvarez: required for

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Dario Alvarez: of 30 units, site.

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Dario Alvarez: site, improvements, and

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Dario Alvarez: call them tiny homes or safe sleeping.

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Dario Alvarez: and the cost per bed is less than $15,000. That includes 30% for contingency and contractor insurance overhead and profit.

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Dario Alvarez: Compare this to the close to $100,000 per bed that the city

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Dario Alvarez: la Times has been reporting. The city of La is spending on

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Dario Alvarez: on interim, housing currently

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Dario Alvarez: So with that I hope that I've given enough of rock strokes to take any questions from the public.

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Dario Alvarez: and i'd be happy to dive into more of the methods and the site selection criteria on specific sites

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Dario Alvarez: that are that i'm that i'm showing currently on on the screen. Here.

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frank murphy: Dario, let me ask you a couple of questions real quick before we leave the presentation.

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frank murphy: One is

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frank murphy: the Venicecentric angle, is what is Venice?

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frank murphy: The sites that are that are

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frank murphy: important to Venice. And then also.

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frank murphy: what is the difference between the

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frank murphy: between the emergency shelters as opposed to emergency housing

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frank murphy: based on you know what the protocol is for each one of those.

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frank murphy: Just so people can get their head around the the differences that are that are required there that are

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Dario Alvarez: sure.

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Dario Alvarez: Well, first question regarding the sites for Venice we can. We can dive into them individually they're They're somewhat dispersed around the community plan area.

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Dario Alvarez: there are some.

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Dario Alvarez: I think, good good options to consider.

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Dario Alvarez: and I think we can go through them

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Dario Alvarez: individually.

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Dario Alvarez: So regarding the question of the difference between

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Dario Alvarez: emergency interim housing an emergency

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Dario Alvarez: permanent housing.

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Dario Alvarez: I mentioned the

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Dario Alvarez: requirement of site area for bed.

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Dario Alvarez: but the basic difference is that interim housing refers to what some folks refer to as homeless shelters.

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Dario Alvarez: It's the first alternative to sleeping on the street.

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Dario Alvarez: There are a range of types, and it can be everything from safe sleeping. Bring your own tent to park your car in this designated location, or the in this designated location

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Dario Alvarez: or

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Dario Alvarez: dormitories now

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Dario Alvarez: consolidated within one large tent or individual so-called tiny homes, whether they're fabricated by the community or purchased as an off the shell product. Those are all in the category of interim housing, and the purpose of those is to provide an alternative to the encampments, to finding a place to sleep

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Dario Alvarez: tonight.

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frank murphy: But there is a. There is a difference between the

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frank murphy: sort of more. There's a there's a big variety there, so there's a difference between what can be immediately resolved. I mean Karen Bass is asking for

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frank murphy: a 1,000 units, but those are met in one year. Those are meant to

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frank murphy: house you know, more

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frank murphy: permanent types.

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frank murphy: Structure as opposed to something that

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frank murphy: can be equipped, or

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frank murphy: be provided within one month

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frank murphy: in a less, you know a ported, portable toilets, etc. Etc. And a more

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frank murphy: timely fashion

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Dario Alvarez: that's correct. So different from interim housing

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Dario Alvarez: our

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Dario Alvarez: the permanent housing solutions, whether it's the permanent support of housing

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Dario Alvarez: project type or the very immediate semi

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Dario Alvarez: temporary trailers that are used for housing or permanent modular housing units which are the type that Karen Bass is seeking to implement 1,000 of them in the first 6 months in office

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Dario Alvarez: the the. There's a difference in the

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Dario Alvarez: time that it takes to implement. There's a difference in costs for bed, and there's a difference to the nature of how these units are used. One is more immediately implementable.

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Dario Alvarez: less cost to implement, and serve as the purpose as provide of providing an alternative to sleeping on the street Tonight

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Dario Alvarez: the other permanent housing approach, whether it's rapidly implemented or or slowly implemented.

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Dario Alvarez: costs more per unit or for bed to build.

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Dario Alvarez: intended to be permanent. So folks have a place to live while they they

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Dario Alvarez: meet certain criteria.

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Dario Alvarez: in other words, once you cease to meet those criteria, you're no longer welcome to live there.

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Dario Alvarez: in in those cases, and

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Dario Alvarez: and generally our our

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Dario Alvarez: permanent

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Dario Alvarez: housing.

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Dario Alvarez: So I hope i'm answering your questions directly.

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Dario Alvarez: And or if if i'm misunderstanding anything let me know so I can click on.

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frank murphy: Yeah, I just was trying to differentiate

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frank murphy: in the emergency housing situation. We're trying to differentiate what can be provided quicker as opposed to what can be provided

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frank murphy: in a more substantial manner.

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Dario Alvarez: Right? Yeah, I think I think the the bottom line, perhaps, is, you know there there are 1,704 people sleeping on the street right now in the District 11.

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Dario Alvarez: Yeah.

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Dario Alvarez: there's not necessarily an alternative for all of them. There's certainly not an alternative for all of them.

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Dario Alvarez: So an immediate alternative would be emergency interim housing.

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Dario Alvarez: whether it's safe sleeping. Bring your own tent in a designated area

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Dario Alvarez: or tiny homes in a designated area, but it's an alternative to to to being exposed to the elements and the risks of of sleeping outside.

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frank murphy: So I guess we, as a community, are being asked to.

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frank murphy: or what

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frank murphy: our question here today is, how do we participate in that and which you had? just several sites in Venice that

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frank murphy: we're capable of handling either one or the other. And and

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frank murphy: we can enumerate those sites. We can

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frank murphy: bring them right up front, and then also, you can actually do it on that on your map, right?

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frank murphy: And and then

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frank murphy: But I don't want to argue. I don't want to get into a extended debate. About which side it is. It's just the fact that we need to

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frank murphy: approach this. And how do we? How do we participate in approaching this so just

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frank murphy: I i'm open it up to questions from the from the

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frank murphy: pat. I'm sorry I I I stepped in

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frank murphy: We'll have the public go first, and then we'll, and then we'll come back again after the public speaks.

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frank murphy: Does that sound

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frank murphy: a good to you, Vicki? You said.

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frank murphy: do we have a.

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Vicki Halliday: I mean.

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Vicki Halliday: Yeah, that sounds fine. Are we going to talk about

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Vicki Halliday: the 41 18 area of relay?

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frank murphy: the 41 18. Oh, you mean those several sites? Yeah, Dario was the several sites that

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Dario Alvarez: So for for purposes of the of the of the public being aware of the

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Dario Alvarez: removal of sites that are not suitable.

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Dario Alvarez: We received a number of so called 41 18 sites, so it's a list of schools, library, and and other sites, around which a 500 foot buffer should be respected.

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Dario Alvarez: When we received those sites we had already removed a 600 foot buffer around schools. So a 600 foot buffer is what's used for liquor sales, for example. So we were using that same rubric

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Dario Alvarez: and if there were any portions of sites that fill within the 500 buffer of any site that hadn't been previously identified in our study, we removed those

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Dario Alvarez: So those sites have already been taken into account in the site, selection.

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Dario Alvarez: study, and they all fall outside of of of the list of those, and I can pull up that list if it would be to the benefit of the public, or, just take our word for it that there's a list of sites around which we have.

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frank murphy: so that that's that's good.

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frank murphy: Okay,

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frank murphy: Well.

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frank murphy: i'm a little bit out of sequence here. But

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frank murphy: I I noticed Barry had his hand up.

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frank murphy: I guess if you have a question that's specific to this presentation.

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PatRaphael: pat, you had your hand up so.

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PatRaphael: Oh, yeah, I apologize. I kind of

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PatRaphael: sorry. Go ahead.

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frank murphy: I got out of sequence here, and I sort of took the took the

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frank murphy: microphone, and and I shouldn't have so. but I thought we needed to clarify a little bit. So if you have clarity questions.

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frank murphy: could you ask those real quick, and then they get to the public.

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PatRaphael: The first question was.

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PatRaphael: the estimates: is there a vendor in mind already? How did we come up with the estimates?

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PatRaphael: And then I often know that the homeless account numbers are under count.

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PatRaphael: The 1,704 is a big jump

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before.

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PatRaphael: Is this still factoring, and under count as well. Those were the 2 clarity questions that I had as I was listening.

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frank murphy: Those I think we can take let's take and hit those when we get to our get our

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frank murphy: debate amongst the

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frank murphy: committee members.

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frank murphy: jodi.

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Jody Mortimer: Thank you. My question is, is there a Youtube videos on how these modular causes are made, and

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Jody Mortimer: Can we have access to your web browsers?

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frank murphy: We can take those on the on the questions when we get to the to the committee.

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frank murphy: I was seeking just clarification on the on the presentation not zeroing in on

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Jody Mortimer: That's a great presentation.

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frank murphy: Lauren.

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lauren siegel: Yes, I was wondering if you could show us what the sites are here in Venice, so we can see based on your presentation.

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Dario Alvarez: Is that what you have up on the screen here, Dario?

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frank murphy: I'm sorry. Are we doing committee, or are we doing public?

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Andrew Mika: What Lawrence Committee?

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lauren siegel: Yes, we're asking clarifying questions, Andrew.

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Andrew Mika: A 1,000 of them. Okay.

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frank murphy: no problem.

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frank murphy: okay. So that's on that screen there.

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frank murphy: So

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Elizabeth Wright: yes. If if we're looking for identification of sites that are acceptable to the community.

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Elizabeth Wright: I think we need to know about them before we go into comments.

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frank murphy: That's what

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frank murphy: well, that's what Lauren just alluded to. And this is the map that has those sites.

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Elizabeth Wright: those sites identified. We need an explanation of of Where are they? Exactly.

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Elizabeth Wright: I mean, that's not very many.

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Elizabeth Wright: Are they the yellow or the purple?

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Vicki Halliday: Maybe Gio could zoom in?

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Dario Alvarez: I'm. I'm happy to it. So I

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Dario Alvarez: i'm happy to go into these guys by site. So it may. It may seem like it's not very many for for Venice, and this is because these are the most called down

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Dario Alvarez: options that we've

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Dario Alvarez: gather

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Dario Alvarez: removing any that are intentionally not suitable.

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Dario Alvarez: So so if you'd like, I can go into them individually. So just the yellow marks correct. The yellow marks are the sites. This is a known encampment, and it's the the the.is proportional to the number of individuals in it.

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Dario Alvarez: The color coding of the census tracks is the density of i'm sheltered individuals in that census track.

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Dario Alvarez: So.

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Dario Alvarez: there's a site at 7 48 flower Avenue.

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Dario Alvarez: There is a site at

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Dario Alvarez: this is the kind of skill center

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Dario Alvarez: There's the Mta Yard site.

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Dario Alvarez: There is the site. We're here in the World circle

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Dario Alvarez: 6, 0 1,

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Dario Alvarez: all the order

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Dario Alvarez: there is.

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frank murphy: Yeah.

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lauren siegel: I thought that was privately owned.

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Dario Alvarez: So, as I mentioned this includes options, These it includes privately on options that may be suitable for consideration as additional sites.

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Dario Alvarez: there is this building here at the intersection of Venice. And oh, basically the the the parking lot of the Pacific dell

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Dario Alvarez: site

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Dario Alvarez: is a is an option.

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Dario Alvarez: And then out here this is the Thatcher yard.

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Dario Alvarez: So in Venice these are the sites that

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Dario Alvarez: remained after removing all of the

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Dario Alvarez: portions of sites, the the criteria that I mentioned. These are the sites that remain in Venice that are

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Dario Alvarez: good options to consider.

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Dario Alvarez: and there are other sites outside of Venice for Council District 11

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Dario Alvarez: as well.

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frank murphy: Well, I know that several of these sites are not available.

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frank murphy: which is what we need to do to look into

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frank murphy: what? What? What we're trying to do here is to

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frank murphy: we may have to modify

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frank murphy: what excludes the site or doesn't exclude a site in order to participate.

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frank murphy: and

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frank murphy: the housing, as we see as we see fit, as we as a community see fit.

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frank murphy: So

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frank murphy: These are These are sites that are specific to

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frank murphy: already stipulated

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frank murphy: you know restrictions

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frank murphy: so obviously some of these are going to be like like Thatcher yards is already under production. They, you know. so we're gonna have. We're gonna need to vet each site. But we're gonna need to. We need to at least look at them all

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frank murphy: under the current vetting, and then we'll figure out what we may or may not need to change to get more or less in

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frank murphy: Is that Michael.

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Michael Jensen: Are you that me.

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Michael Jensen: Frank? You're going on?

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Michael Jensen: Yeah, sorry. no. It's all right. so I have a question, I guess 2 questions actually. So. The first one may be simple, and then how to? And that question is, how did you come up with the 400 square foot lot per person

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Michael Jensen: versus 600

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Michael Jensen: right. You said how you came up with the 400 or 600. But but i'm just curious. Why, 400. Why not?

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Michael Jensen: We're talking about emergency

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Michael Jensen: shelter. Why is it that that seems like a lot?

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Michael Jensen: My second question is

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Michael Jensen: in putting together the allocation, are we? Is every community starting off at 0 or our places like I I mean, like Venice. Maybe this is just the feeling, although I think it is actually statistically supported, is taking on a greater burden of percentage.

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Michael Jensen: Homeless shelters in proportion to it's. Even if you compare population or

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Michael Jensen: geographic area?

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Michael Jensen: Are we getting credit for that? Or is everyone starting off at 0 for the purposes of your allocation?

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Michael Jensen: She'll answer the question now or it's up to you. I I I mean.

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frank murphy: I don't know how you guys want to run that. But those are those are my clarifying questions. Let's let's bring that up when we go to committee in exchange.

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frank murphy: because we need to get the public in here real quick.

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frank murphy: Andrew.

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Andrew Mika: Sorry

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Andrew Mika: I I guess I have some more basic questions.

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Andrew Mika: Dario, Who are you? Why are you putting this? Are you together?

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Andrew Mika: I guess my understanding is, you work for a nonprofit? Does anybody on any of these committees have any affiliation with your nonprofit?

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Andrew Mika: Why wasn't this study sent out prior for committee members to review.

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Andrew Mika: I guess there are also 39 points. You said that came up with a number of these

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Andrew Mika: sites. I'd like to know what those are.

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Andrew Mika: I just don't feel either, like

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Andrew Mika: I I have like a 3 page list of questions to understand

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Andrew Mika: any of the background that's gone into this.

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Andrew Mika: So. So maybe i'm new. I'd love to be enlightened, though.

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frank murphy: Okay, so let's

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frank murphy: Well, let me say, let me just state right upfront. Ari and I have been working together on data research for the past 8, 10 years.

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frank murphy: and it's been specific to

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frank murphy: all of that lay in La County.

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frank murphy: so.

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frank murphy: Yes, there is a.

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frank murphy: and Dario has made many presentations

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frank murphy: to the

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frank murphy: to the Venice Neighborhood Council to the over the years we've been making. he's made presentations

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frank murphy: quite often.

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frank murphy: So. yes, there is a there is a i'm, i'm not quite sure where your questions were leading, but that that's that's as

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frank murphy: That's where Dario's invitation comes from.

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Andrew Mika: Got it? So you 2 work together.

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PatRaphael: Okay, No. But we're quickly. Does. Well, Other members of the community get a chance to have their questions directly dealt with, because that's a good thing that they're doing. I just want other members sure go for it, guys. I can go last. Absolutely. Okay. So let's go back to the community. Thanks, Andrew.

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frank murphy: let's go back to the community questions.

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Vicki Halliday: A community comment. Now, public comment. Right?

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Vicki Halliday: Yes, Thank you. Yeah. Sorry.

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Vicki Halliday: We have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

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Vicki Halliday: If everybody could keep their question to about a minute, that would be great colony. Why don't you go first? Go ahead.

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Kalani W: Hello! Huh! i'm glad you clarified. Who dary, or Alvarez is, so he does not work for a government agency. He works for nonprofit. I'm concerned about that because many nonprofits are very ineffective, and he's pouting housing.

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Kalani W: What I heard, and I was very involved with the election. Both candidates did not talk about housing. They talked about beds. Karen Bass said 15,000 beds, and me.

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Kalani W: both candidates, as far as I was aware were not in favor of tiny houses that takes up land. You're talking about this arbitrary number 400 square feet. Where did you get that. And

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Kalani W: okay, Why are you opposed to land with hills? Land with yours can be terraced and and

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Kalani W: you wrap it up, Kalani. Thank you. I am a person that was forced, and I've looked into L. A. HD. Affordable housing.

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Vicki Halliday: Sorry, Coloni, we were trying to keep it to a minute.

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Vicki Halliday: Cj: Go ahead, please.

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CJ Cole: Okay, I kind of go on

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CJ Cole: I. This question is a very pointed question. First of all, who is paying for this study?

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CJ Cole: The answer, please.

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CJ Cole: who is paying

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CJ Cole: for it?

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CJ Cole: I'm sorry should it be waiting for all the questions, and then respond to them? I'm i'm happy to go either way he has a lot to do with these questions we have

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CJ Cole: is whether or not this is a legitimate study, or whether it's being paid or by a developer.

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frank murphy: Well, I understand

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frank murphy: where we're coming from. And let's take that

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frank murphy: when we can have an answer.

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frank murphy: we'll answer it. Make a point. See J.

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CJ Cole: Go ahead. The agenda says that there's a minute for this and a minute for the response, and that's the way the agenda reads

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CJ Cole: a forward answer.

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frank murphy: Yeah, this study in particular is being paid for

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frank murphy: through funds that are raised by the 501, C 3, which comes from myself, and also comes from

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frank murphy: the

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CJ Cole: What the hell is the name of that foundation? that's okay, Frank, you have. You have proposed this for at least 2 years, maybe 3 years. We've heard it. We've heard it.

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frank murphy: you know. Let's go. I Haven't proposed. What? Wait, Wait, wait. Cj: I haven't proposed this that we're talking about tonight.

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frank murphy: I've never proposed. We're talking about tonight studies from these people.

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Yeah.

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frank murphy: of course.

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frank murphy: you give me a study. We'll talk about that one, too.

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frank murphy: Let's see. Let's you know. Let's do it, You know. I mean you're

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frank murphy: you're capable of doing studies, too.

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frank murphy: I like it when people know what they're talking about.

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frank murphy: anyhow.

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frank murphy: My apologies C. J: Go ahead.

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CJ Cole: I'm serious.

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CJ Cole: I got my answer.

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frank murphy: Okay.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay.

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Vicki Halliday: Next up Daryl: Defay Daryl: please go ahead.

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Vicki Halliday: Can you hear me now? Go ahead?

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Darryl DuFay: I'm appalled. I am really appalled.

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Darryl DuFay: I read the agenda. I see a person's name.

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Darryl DuFay: Who is he who does he work for, etc. And that is why I sent an email to all of you.

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Darryl DuFay: I now find out that he is in partnership with the chair of the of the committee.

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Darryl DuFay: He you didn't send out anything.

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Darryl DuFay: You have put on maps existing properties that are already there number 69. That's the Median project

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Darryl DuFay: already.

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Darryl DuFay: You talk about putting him at different sites. Lhasa is under s suspect, because of the 2022 on the northeast, on the northeast corner by the by, the

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Darryl DuFay: ocean.

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Darryl DuFay: There's there were no

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Darryl DuFay: people

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Darryl DuFay: listed for this last. for this last count

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Darryl DuFay: I it it's I

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Darryl DuFay: I've been at it for 6 years. With this I'm. Now working with the coalition for safe coastal development. Who has a lawsuit over 100

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Darryl DuFay: site 69?

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Darryl DuFay: Do we do they need help. People need help absolutely.

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Darryl DuFay: But I don't hear anything tonight that's been

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Darryl DuFay: put together, so that the community understands what's happening.

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Darryl DuFay: and the proposal I would ask, I would ask Dario, how many, how many homeless, homeless units or programs have you ever constructed and have been involved in?

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Darryl DuFay: We don't know about the people. I I don't know anything about Dario other than what I read and what I heard tonight.

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Darryl DuFay: Okay, I am just so.

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Darryl DuFay: I'm. Just so.

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Darryl DuFay: I'm I'm going to stop.

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Darryl DuFay: I'm. Just frustrated. Thank you. We'll we'll have more comment later.

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Vicki Halliday: writing. Would you go ahead, please?

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WRITING: Hello.

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WRITING: Hello! Hi! Okay,

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WRITING: You know to what the last 2 speakers just mentioned

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WRITING: the head of the

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WRITING: on this committee

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WRITING: be working with the presentation

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WRITING: and I think, Frank confirm that you're a developer. Is that correct?

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WRITING: Hello!

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WRITING: Is that correct?

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frank murphy: Yeah.

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WRITING: Well, I think that that's that. Doesn't seem right. It seems like a proposal for your benefit in a way, maybe maybe not. But it seems like that. I think that that's what we're all kind of sniffing at that. This this just seems wrong from top to bottom, knowing the interactions you both have and how you work together.

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WRITING: I know that one of the presentations a few years ago you said that there should be more development and<noise> and taxes that people

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WRITING: for development like they do for the homeless housing.

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WRITING: Now i'm not sure if you want to develop homeless housing, or what your goal ultimately is in your business. But I think this just seems wrong, and I think that that's what we're all kind of getting at, and it's wrong that you have. Cereal. Come in and works with you to basically do a whole pitch

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WRITING: for yourself ultimately, as it seems if i'm wrong. I'm wrong. But I think that's what we're all getting open to that. Thank you.

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Dario Alvarez: It it seems that there's a maybe a trajectory of the comments, and maybe it'd be good to address this this kind of group

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Dario Alvarez: of comments

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Dario Alvarez: Or or allow the rest of the comments to to come in and and address all of them at once.

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Dario Alvarez: it's really up to the

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Dario Alvarez: to the committee, but I i'd be happy to.

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Dario Alvarez: I'm not sure if anything I say will assuage the concerns of the public. But but i'm happy to

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PatRaphael: I would I would welcome being able to consider things as they come up.

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PatRaphael: because I think when we try to lump it on in the end.

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PatRaphael: it's hard to address what people are getting at.

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PatRaphael: But also why is it wrong? Because Frank has solutions? I don't understand what the you guys are even considering what he's saying.

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PatRaphael: You just looking at the fact that he has a job that he could get.

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PatRaphael: and I don't know it's a solution is presenting. We don't have to do what he says. But can he at least public comment? And I think that we need to stick with it, or we're

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Vicki Halliday: creating all sorts of violations and meeting rules. Let's just let Vicki run this. May I? May I say that we should finish public comment?

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Vicki Halliday: All of these things can be noted and answered later on, but we have to get through public comment. Thank you. Erica Moore. Please go ahead. You have a minute.

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Erica Moore: hey? There? okay, I'm sorry. It's been a little contentious tonight.

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Erica Moore: I actually have a different take on what I've heard tonight.

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Erica Moore: I I kind of am

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Erica Moore: looking at this more as a general conversation about options. I'm not looking at this as

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Erica Moore: because the people presenting it could possibly have a vested interest. I think that's jumping the gun.

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Erica Moore: Actually, I I feel like

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Erica Moore: I drive around in the city, and I see places that are vacant, and I think to myself, why, Don't, we use for housing.

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Erica Moore: and I appreciate the fact that somebody is

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Erica Moore: looking at these options and presenting them to us. Yes, that's correct, that that one piece of property

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Erica Moore: is slated for the median which everybody's fighting against or not everybody but many people. And I think to have an alternative to that project that is more realistic and doesn't cost so much money, etc., and the smaller scale might make sense.

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Erica Moore: I just want to say that

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Erica Moore: in the spirit of us coming together as a community to find solutions. Let's try to look past

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Erica Moore: maybe people's personal interest and look at this as a global situation and what we can all bring to the table, because it's not like something's being set in stone here, and people are going to get money right. Now, if we agree with some of these locations as being possibilities.

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Erica Moore: I appreciate the work that's gone into this, and I hope that more work will go into that

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Erica Moore: and to identifying locations that could be used for housing, and, as far as housing goes, this isn't permanent housing. From what i'm. Understanding, this is

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Erica Moore: transitional, whether it's safe camping for now, or temporary housing where there are beds for people right now while housing is being created in other locations. Maybe I misunderstood that. But that's what I glean from the conversation. Thank you so much for your time.

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Vicki Halliday: Next we have Shawn O'brien, try and go ahead, please.

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Sean Obrien: interesting. report

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Sean Obrien: I do believe. there's

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Sean Obrien: either the public we we need to like

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Sean Obrien: like this.

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Sean Obrien: so we can understand it better

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Sean Obrien: or it needs a quite a bit more work.

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Sean Obrien: I'm really confused with the locations that were chosen in Venice.

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Sean Obrien: You know you you had the Mta law, which is already being used.

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Sean Obrien: on there you're You're showing like the

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Sean Obrien: the Median parking lot

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Sean Obrien: that's the parking lot use for tourists. It's our number one parking lot for visitors to come in, so I don't know how you can propose putting you know, safe parking or camping there.

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Sean Obrien: i'm really confused with everything.

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Sean Obrien: my main concern is

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Sean Obrien: It's been shoved down our throats for decades. We have about 2,000 units for low income, homeless, low income, whatever.

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Sean Obrien: Recently we've had several developments

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Sean Obrien: from Thatcher Yard, Rose Avenue, Lincoln apartments, the M. the Mta Law. You got Mary, and plays.

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Sean Obrien: you know, and there's dozens of others. Now, Bond is proposing the new one over there on Venice and Beethoven.

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Sean Obrien: So we got this huge concentration that we've already done with the rest of the CD. 11 hasn't done

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Sean Obrien: and we only in like 3 mile area that we're doing all this in.

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Sean Obrien: and

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Sean Obrien: you know. Now let's put more. So we kinda like.

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Sean Obrien: we gotta say at 1 point that enough is enough.

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Sean Obrien: And you know we're gonna again. It's going to be a welcome at a magnet to draw more people here so they can have their safe parking, or they can have their camping or their tiny home at the beach.

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Sean Obrien: thank you, Sean. Can you rack it up?

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Sean Obrien: I'm: sorry, Vicki.

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Sean Obrien: So yeah, I I think we need time to digest with all the construction of that's going on before we start by adding more.

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Sean Obrien: thank you. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: next Lisa Redmond. Go ahead. Lisa.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Yeah, thank you.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Excuse me.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: yeah, I mean disappointed that we went through all that just to get a few sites that

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: already are unavailable. And I think most people know that

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Thatcher is completely already under construction. Everyone can see that the old post offices under construction again. They're gonna probably wrap that up and use it quickly and rent it out.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: we know the Venice Skills Center is a very active adult day school, and really optional. Not good. And I know we do have a lack of space here in Venice.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I think the Pacific dell parking lot is ideal. I've said that for a long time now I know it's a busy parking lot during the summer.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: but right now this is a crisis, and everyone's fearful that Karen Bass is going to call a state of emergency. This is a state of emergency, and if we need to have that be temporary housing for 2 years. because it's going to be a long time before the meeting project breaks ground. That's an ideal spot for interim housing

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: another location You, haven't brought up

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01:17:18.290 --> 01:17:20.549
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: is the Penmar golf course.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: and before one gets upset i'm not talking about taking away the whole golf course.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: There's a lot of land that's not being used

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: that could be part. that's just spare land! It's not even a whole, but it's there as the back part of the course.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: That's a possibility as well. No one talks about that

836
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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: or maybe just take away one hole

837
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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: a lot more. But you know it's very important.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: that yeah in the housing, as Daryl said. The housing count is way way off, or excuse me. The homeless count is way off, because they really did mess up on the loss of numbers, and the ran report: is finding

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: the numbers are much, much higher, and have increased in the past year like 17%.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: So

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01:18:15.290 --> 01:18:17.690
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: i'll, i'll have more to say later. But

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01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:23.050
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: let's be open to our thinking as well to other locations.

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01:18:23.660 --> 01:18:28.469
Vicki Halliday: Next is Carol. Go ahead, please.

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01:18:31.950 --> 01:18:33.910
Carole: Yeah, yes, Thank you.

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01:18:34.100 --> 01:18:50.450
Carole: I want this. I just became aware of this of the meeting tonight, and so I haven't had a chance to review the report, and, like some others have commented. I think there's Dario did a great job explaining it, but this is a very meaty report.

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Carole: and i'm hoping that we'll have an opportunity to really review it ourselves individually, and then a further opportunity to ask questions.

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Carole: So I just wanted to put forward that that request is that some opportunity be created. Once people have really really had a chance to absorb the report and and understand it to ask questions of the committee.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Carol. let's see here, Nadine, please go ahead.

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01:19:23.430 --> 01:19:24.800
Nadine: Hi,

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01:19:25.120 --> 01:19:31.290
Nadine: I just want to stay on record. This feels like a highly pressurized situation that's heavily biased.

851
01:19:31.480 --> 01:19:35.539
Nadine: My questions are, Why are we turning Venice into a refugee?

852
01:19:35.630 --> 01:19:39.520
Nadine: What are the end dates for? These? Quote temporary, and quote

853
01:19:40.510 --> 01:19:43.560
Nadine: sites temporary can be very vague.

854
01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:49.779
Nadine: and we've seen the downstream impact to the community of having interim houses for homeless people in Venice.

855
01:19:50.220 --> 01:19:55.070
Nadine: I think we're exposing ourselves to quite a bit of scope creep with these site plans

856
01:19:56.200 --> 01:20:02.739
Nadine: I'd also. My other question is, Can we get some time focusing on what resources we have to support? No. To these sites?

857
01:20:02.860 --> 01:20:06.329
Nadine: What resources do we have to support street cleaning instead?

858
01:20:06.860 --> 01:20:18.339
Nadine: What are other options beside interim housing located in Venice? Next to our homes, where residents are walking every day, and being exposed to life, threatening behavior.

859
01:20:19.510 --> 01:20:22.610
Nadine: Those are my questions.

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01:20:23.410 --> 01:20:25.370
Vicki Halliday: next.

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01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:27.870
Vicki Halliday: Helen Palon. Please go ahead, Helen.

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01:20:30.290 --> 01:20:33.389
Helen Fallon: Yes, Many of the comments that have been made

863
01:20:33.660 --> 01:20:38.580
Helen Fallon: things I was going to cover, and I guess I want to point out that if I understood.

864
01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:43.330
Helen Fallon: the report goes to just a week to come up with 29 locations

865
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Helen Fallon: and all. We've come up here with our 5, most of which

866
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Helen Fallon: well, more than half of which are usable, because adult debt is a school, so you can't really locate it there.

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Dario Alvarez: no, if I may just clarify 29 locations and cancelled this for 11. I need not.

868
01:21:01.270 --> 01:21:07.829
Helen Fallon: They need not all be located in in. Okay, because I guess my take on this report is kind of like.

869
01:21:08.060 --> 01:21:13.139
Helen Fallon: Well, there really is no real. There really is very little space in Venice to put

870
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Helen Fallon: anything.

871
01:21:14.540 --> 01:21:19.779
Helen Fallon: It's all either been you. It's basically been used up, and what hasn't been used up has already been identified.

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that is, in

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Helen Fallon: in the planning process of being used for homeless housing

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Helen Fallon: and just for real record.

875
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Helen Fallon: Frank is the the owner or the founder of pacific urbanism, and dary your works for him. So I don't think we have to talk about it, but that's just the fact.

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01:21:36.550 --> 01:21:44.100
Dario Alvarez: Let me sorry. Let me clarify the record. Frank's not the founder of pacific urbanism. I'm the founder of pacific urbanism.

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01:21:44.280 --> 01:21:45.230
Dario Alvarez: and

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01:21:45.390 --> 01:21:53.370
Dario Alvarez: Frank is a partner in the nonprofit center for pacific urbanism, and I can speak to you individually about it, if you like, more information or speak to it in, though

879
01:21:53.460 --> 01:21:57.820
Dario Alvarez: when I'm responding to our comments.

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01:22:00.740 --> 01:22:04.080
Vicki Halliday: okay, we have 2 more public comments.

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01:22:04.500 --> 01:22:08.410
Vicki Halliday: shay! Followed by Susan Beckman, She? Why, don't you go ahead, please.

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01:22:10.160 --> 01:22:11.909
Shay: Hi! Can you guys hear me.

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01:22:12.090 --> 01:22:13.480
frank murphy: Yes, yes.

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01:22:13.570 --> 01:22:18.450
Shay: okay. Thank you for it went to like unmute myself, anyway.

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01:22:18.620 --> 01:22:22.920
Shay: I have 2 questions for Dario

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01:22:23.210 --> 01:22:27.390
Shay: and These are they are these?

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01:22:27.430 --> 01:22:33.830
Shay: where did you derive the 400 square foot from?

888
01:22:33.860 --> 01:22:40.519
Shay: Is that a building code thing? Because if we're just talking bedrooms, and there's a communal

889
01:22:40.830 --> 01:22:44.069
Shay: cooking facilities and dining facilities.

890
01:22:44.370 --> 01:22:48.289
Shay: Then the the size of a bedroom

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01:22:48.410 --> 01:22:50.440
Shay: for something like this is

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01:22:50.690 --> 01:22:57.830
Shay: far lower than 400 square feet per foot, I mean 400 square feet per unit.

893
01:22:58.210 --> 01:23:00.670
Shay: And secondly.

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01:23:01.390 --> 01:23:05.570
Shay: when we're talking about a competitive build bidding

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01:23:05.710 --> 01:23:07.530
Shay: process.

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01:23:07.710 --> 01:23:10.939
Shay: Now, is that going to be using money that

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01:23:11.020 --> 01:23:13.070
Shay: is coming from

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01:23:13.180 --> 01:23:22.929
Shay: Feds or State money, wherein it says that you must use prevailing wage which equals union

899
01:23:22.990 --> 01:23:25.890
Shay: automatically, which equals

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Shay: higher costs than necessary.

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01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:32.100
Shay: I'll leave you with that.

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01:23:32.550 --> 01:23:33.699
Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Shake

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01:23:34.820 --> 01:23:38.220
Vicki Halliday: Susan Batman and last speaker. Go ahead, Susan.

904
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Vicki Halliday: Susan.

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susan beckman: I'm sorry I didn't realize I was muted.

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susan beckman: I'm concerned also about

907
01:23:58.990 --> 01:24:03.060
susan beckman: the density of these uses in Venice

908
01:24:03.200 --> 01:24:05.789
susan beckman: versus other council districts.

909
01:24:06.090 --> 01:24:09.779
susan beckman: I think there's already a sense of unfairness.

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01:24:09.890 --> 01:24:12.249
susan beckman: But even more important.

911
01:24:12.320 --> 01:24:14.890
susan beckman: which has not been addressed tonight

912
01:24:15.220 --> 01:24:19.519
susan beckman: is, how do you get people to say yes to these

913
01:24:19.890 --> 01:24:21.540
susan beckman: developments?

914
01:24:21.590 --> 01:24:23.319
susan beckman: If there are rules

915
01:24:24.090 --> 01:24:27.010
susan beckman: and the community, the neighbors

916
01:24:27.080 --> 01:24:29.149
susan beckman: would like to have some rules.

917
01:24:31.600 --> 01:24:36.739
susan beckman: And one more thing I've been around for a long, long time. I'm so sick.

918
01:24:36.830 --> 01:24:39.119
susan beckman: The suspiciousness

919
01:24:39.420 --> 01:24:43.219
susan beckman: of people of each other's intentions in Venice.

920
01:24:43.240 --> 01:24:54.569
susan beckman: I mean, I've been here for 40 years, and it's been this. We we undo ourselves. We disempower ourselves by our rudeness and our suspiciousness.

921
01:24:54.830 --> 01:24:58.299
susan beckman: We're just lucky that someone wants to tackle the problem.

922
01:25:00.350 --> 01:25:01.640
Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Susan.

923
01:25:02.240 --> 01:25:06.650
Vicki Halliday: Frank back to you and Mikkel for committee comments.

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01:25:08.520 --> 01:25:10.949
frank murphy: Okay,

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01:25:13.450 --> 01:25:20.299
Michael Jensen: do we want to let Dario answer the litany of questions that just went through, and then we'll

926
01:25:20.330 --> 01:25:21.380
Michael Jensen: we'll talk, or

927
01:25:22.540 --> 01:25:28.370
frank murphy: I think so if he clarifies that, and then we can. We can go and and talk amongst ourselves.

928
01:25:29.050 --> 01:25:41.839
Dario Alvarez: Okay, I I wrote down the just of each one of the questions, so I will attempt to answer all of them without being redundant, and I will go backwards. Starting from Susan.

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01:25:42.180 --> 01:25:51.740
Dario Alvarez: I very much appreciate your comments, and and I agree about the disempower, the community just empowering itself with the suspiciousness.

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01:25:52.990 --> 01:25:58.859
Dario Alvarez: I don't think that I need to dwell on that but it really is a disservice to the community.

931
01:25:59.090 --> 01:26:02.210
Dario Alvarez: and i'll speak in a little bit more detail about

932
01:26:02.280 --> 01:26:03.429
Dario Alvarez: why that is

933
01:26:03.460 --> 01:26:07.160
Dario Alvarez: this is a study that was first started

934
01:26:07.350 --> 01:26:15.299
Dario Alvarez: during the lawsuit of the La Alliance for human rights against the city and county of Los Angeles, because the city and county of Los Angeles were not providing

935
01:26:15.460 --> 01:26:16.610
Dario Alvarez: interim housing.

936
01:26:17.020 --> 01:26:25.420
Dario Alvarez: and the city and county were also not analyzing what Government owned. Sites were suitable. They were just saying, No, no, no.

937
01:26:25.670 --> 01:26:36.970
Dario Alvarez: we pacific urbanism, which is a company that I founded. I'm. An architect and a community planner, and I use spatial analysis, tools to support planning decisions for

938
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Dario Alvarez: both private and public entities, was called upon by the la lines for human rights

939
01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:43.429
Dario Alvarez: attorneys

940
01:26:43.560 --> 01:26:49.420
Dario Alvarez: to support their case, and analyze what government owned sites were in fact suitable

941
01:26:49.650 --> 01:26:53.580
Dario Alvarez: so this is a county-wide study that attempted to

942
01:26:55.350 --> 01:27:04.969
Dario Alvarez: not allow the city and county to say, I'm sorry we just can't identify any suitable land that's Government owned. We just don't have a good data set. In fact, there are good data sets.

943
01:27:05.030 --> 01:27:11.249
Dario Alvarez: The the tax accessor has it a good data set. The control Ls Controller has a good data set.

944
01:27:11.500 --> 01:27:18.489
Dario Alvarez: the Governor's office has a good data set, and so what we did was compiled all of these data sets.

945
01:27:18.570 --> 01:27:29.049
Dario Alvarez: and then we needed to take the input from the different agencies having jurisdiction and stakeholders in terms of what sites are not suitable. So, for example, to the to the question of slow

946
01:27:29.090 --> 01:27:36.830
Dario Alvarez: and terracing projects. Well, there's there's plenty of suit of of government on lands in Griffith Park. It's all very steep

947
01:27:36.970 --> 01:27:53.659
Dario Alvarez: and not suitable for immediate shelters. So, using Gis, what we're able to do is perform a slope band analysis on the entire county, and simply eliminate all areas that are not immediately available. Yes, land can be terraced. Yes, more infrastructure could be

948
01:27:53.700 --> 01:27:55.000
Dario Alvarez: expanded

949
01:27:55.080 --> 01:27:59.729
Dario Alvarez: funds can be expended for more infrastructure. Yes, a number of things can be done.

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01:27:59.790 --> 01:28:03.609
Dario Alvarez: The purpose of this study was to identify which land was

951
01:28:03.650 --> 01:28:06.910
Dario Alvarez: more suitable for immediate interim housing.

952
01:28:07.060 --> 01:28:10.510
Dario Alvarez: And among those sites that that

953
01:28:10.730 --> 01:28:16.559
Dario Alvarez: reveal themselves as suitable because they're outside of all of the areas that I that I mentioned.

954
01:28:16.710 --> 01:28:21.350
Dario Alvarez: How do we ring that? Where do we start? And so we we developed a criteria that's based on

955
01:28:21.370 --> 01:28:22.070
Dario Alvarez: the

956
01:28:22.340 --> 01:28:29.960
Dario Alvarez: city Administrator's office responds to Mike Barnett. When Mike Bonnan's office proposed 10 sites for consideration, they were all rejected.

957
01:28:30.070 --> 01:28:38.770
Dario Alvarez: They were rejected based on specific criteria. So we took those criteria. We basically mapped the inverse of them to say, Well, those sites are not suitable.

958
01:28:38.790 --> 01:28:46.469
Dario Alvarez: Here's the inverse of the sites. Here are the ones that are closest to fire hybrids closest to sewer connections, the least expensive sites.

959
01:28:48.790 --> 01:28:50.309
Dario Alvarez: And and

960
01:28:50.510 --> 01:28:55.689
Dario Alvarez: in presenting these sites some of you are right. It does show that Venice has

961
01:28:55.970 --> 01:29:06.229
Dario Alvarez: erez agmoni, perhaps less sites than than the community would like to think that Venice has, and that is a planning support tool to begin to consider what sites outside of Venice are necessary. One.

962
01:29:06.300 --> 01:29:08.639
Dario Alvarez: if the community is the Council.

963
01:29:08.740 --> 01:29:18.669
Dario Alvarez: District 11 is to provide any number of interim housing, whether it's for 100% of the UN sheltered individuals, 50% or only 10%.

964
01:29:19.070 --> 01:29:25.839
Dario Alvarez: These sites are not being imposed upon you. This is being done as a service to you, the community for you, the community to take and consider.

965
01:29:25.930 --> 01:29:33.119
Dario Alvarez: And and as some folks have provided additional input this one. I prefer this one. I do not prefer

966
01:29:33.820 --> 01:29:42.820
Dario Alvarez: A lot of you folks here in this meeting have met me before, and how and when we've discussed the the various research topics that I've been engaged on, and I apologize to those.

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01:29:42.900 --> 01:29:47.490
Dario Alvarez: Well, I've not met today that I didn't introduce myself first. but

968
01:29:47.850 --> 01:29:55.520
Dario Alvarez: If if you're to keep your suspicion, there's really not much I can say about it. If you're open to putting your suspicion aside

969
01:29:55.560 --> 01:29:57.110
Dario Alvarez: take my work for it.

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01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:05.219
Dario Alvarez: I founded a socially responsible enterprise, and I've been using the profits from that enterprise

971
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Dario Alvarez: and investing them back in a non-profit research center

972
01:30:09.880 --> 01:30:12.529
Dario Alvarez: to address some of the questions that the city

973
01:30:12.660 --> 01:30:25.200
Dario Alvarez: is either unwilling or unable to address that's the reason why we're doing this, and then we're making them available to communities like menace, so that you can discuss them. They're not being imposed upon you. They're not being proposed.

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01:30:25.270 --> 01:30:41.110
Dario Alvarez: They're being identified for you to consider for you to discuss, and for you to speak with your elected officials, or engage in in in a non-governmental way, in either providing or failing to provide an alternative to folks sleeping and dying on the street.

975
01:30:41.460 --> 01:30:42.200
Dario Alvarez: So

976
01:30:42.350 --> 01:30:54.929
Dario Alvarez: Susan, thank you for ending with that. it's true that Venice currently has a higher density of permanent supportive housing and low income housing relative to other districts

977
01:30:55.010 --> 01:30:57.430
Dario Alvarez: other community primaries in District 11.

978
01:30:57.470 --> 01:31:12.429
Dario Alvarez: It's a smaller community fund area relative to others. And so in absolute numbers it would seem that Venice has less. But when normalized per capita, or by area, Venice rings among the highest community plan areas in terms of what it provides.

979
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Dario Alvarez: So that's another point for discussion in the community.

980
01:31:15.020 --> 01:31:20.439
Dario Alvarez: Is it to be? Are the the sites to be distributed according to

981
01:31:20.600 --> 01:31:34.769
Dario Alvarez: shares equal to the number of unhouse individuals in Venice, which are more than the rest of the communities for distributed in some equitable way that takes into account other metrics, a study which we've also done, which i'm also sharing with you

982
01:31:38.570 --> 01:31:41.800
Dario Alvarez: and another person. You mentioned something about

983
01:31:44.720 --> 01:31:52.190
Dario Alvarez: Well, developers I think some of you folks in the community have known Frank for some time, and I know

984
01:31:52.910 --> 01:31:55.169
Dario Alvarez: you know what kind of a person he is. So

985
01:31:55.210 --> 01:32:02.339
Dario Alvarez: I I understand. I'm familiar with the suspicion around developers. I I would hope, for the Venice community

986
01:32:02.490 --> 01:32:06.389
Dario Alvarez: which is really yours and not mine. I would hope that people

987
01:32:06.740 --> 01:32:09.740
Dario Alvarez: can set aside this

988
01:32:09.820 --> 01:32:13.600
Dario Alvarez: villainization of developers and begin to take

989
01:32:13.650 --> 01:32:17.040
Dario Alvarez: control of the issues that the community faces.

990
01:32:17.190 --> 01:32:33.280
Dario Alvarez: and and not try to identify an individual or a trade as the culprit, but rather begin to look at how the community will begin to address these issues, whether it's providing no shelters, or providing more than the fair share of shelters.

991
01:32:33.290 --> 01:32:38.320
Dario Alvarez: but simply putting the blame on someone else. is, in my opinion.

992
01:32:39.130 --> 01:32:43.050
Dario Alvarez: ineffective in a sexual, and not going to

993
01:32:43.120 --> 01:32:48.489
Dario Alvarez: advance the community into a more normative state, the way things ought to be

994
01:32:48.890 --> 01:32:53.069
Dario Alvarez: then, regarding the lost account. True, it's been identified as

995
01:32:53.810 --> 01:32:55.040
Dario Alvarez: inaccurate.

996
01:32:55.130 --> 01:33:02.500
Dario Alvarez: that Doesn't. Take away from the fact that there are UN sheltered individuals in the entire city many concentrated in Venice.

997
01:33:02.520 --> 01:33:15.869
Dario Alvarez: and that there is the options. Are either folks continue to sleep on the street, or an alternative to folks sleeping on the street are provided, whether that's in Venice or elsewhere in Council District 11 or elsewhere in the city.

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01:33:16.090 --> 01:33:17.540
Dario Alvarez: that really

999
01:33:17.630 --> 01:33:22.629
Dario Alvarez: it it's not affected by the fact that losses counts were were found to be

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01:33:23.600 --> 01:33:25.529
Dario Alvarez: inaccurate.

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Dario Alvarez: I spoke to the funding of of of the research

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01:33:32.080 --> 01:33:36.069
Dario Alvarez: and the legitimacy. I I hope that

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01:33:36.100 --> 01:33:38.320
Dario Alvarez: folks see that the

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01:33:38.850 --> 01:33:48.010
Dario Alvarez: the fact that this study which is done empirically using spatial analysis tools, the fact that it has identified sites that are already

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01:33:48.220 --> 01:34:03.479
Dario Alvarez: being used for a program, I think, speaks to the validity of the of the research project. And yes, now it's the community's turn to take these sites and say definitely not, or yes, I consider this more beneficial than another site.

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01:34:03.490 --> 01:34:11.719
Dario Alvarez: I spoke to the hills and the terraces several people asked about the 400 square feet. So I think there's a a miss miscommunication on my part.

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01:34:11.860 --> 01:34:23.939
Dario Alvarez: I and in no moment did I say that the units are 400 square feet units. They're not 400 square feet units. In fact, they're 120 square foot units.

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01:34:24.050 --> 01:34:43.979
Dario Alvarez: When we take into account 120 square foot units, and the space that's required for communal showers and toilets and sinks, and the parking and storage and dining area and circulation area around all of those, as well as the Administration office, medical office and administration washrooms, etc.

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01:34:44.270 --> 01:34:54.300
Dario Alvarez: You take the sum of all of that of those programmatic elements and divide them by the bed, count of 30. That's where you get 400 square feet of site area

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01:34:54.330 --> 01:34:55.240
Dario Alvarez: perfect.

1011
01:34:55.490 --> 01:35:10.230
Dario Alvarez: It's the site area that includes the circulation and all the supporting services. That's 400 square feet per bed, that is, that was arrived to taking the most recent local examples of interim housing the tiny home villages, etc.,

1012
01:35:10.990 --> 01:35:12.830
Dario Alvarez: and architecturally

1013
01:35:13.680 --> 01:35:28.719
Dario Alvarez: dissecting the program, the the area and the uses and arriving to an average. So it's the average area for the most recent local examples. The 650 square foot example of site area once again, not of units

1014
01:35:28.770 --> 01:35:41.969
Dario Alvarez: was just the same way derived by the analysis of recent local examples. So if we, if we look at the hill, the solease site that's over near La State historic mark in Central City

1015
01:35:42.240 --> 01:35:54.789
Dario Alvarez: that site, and take the number of beds divided by the site area. You get 650 for the site area per bed. So that's how those numbers are arrived to someone mentioned that.

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01:35:55.210 --> 01:36:08.039
Dario Alvarez: Well, Dario works for a nonprofit, and nonprofits are ineffective. As I mentioned, I don't work for a nonprofit. I founded a nonprofit using the funds from my socially responsible enterprise, specific urbanism

1017
01:36:08.070 --> 01:36:16.819
Dario Alvarez: to continue advancing research that is not being conducted by the city and other entities. It is frankly responsibility it is to be conducting.

1018
01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:24.119
Dario Alvarez: So that's that's that's where that comes from.

1019
01:36:26.380 --> 01:36:38.910
Dario Alvarez: Then there was a mention of the emergency status. that. That's true, that is, that is what the the mayor elect has. stated that on day one she will declare a state of emergency.

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01:36:39.120 --> 01:36:56.320
Dario Alvarez: And I don't know if that means that Venice, the Venice community will then have less, say in what happens, or somehow will give in be given a bigger podium to decide what happens. But I think it's in the interest of the community to have a head start on what they want, so that when

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01:36:56.410 --> 01:37:09.389
Dario Alvarez: discussions begin in earnest, but there is a a series of considerations, both for the few sites that are in that exist in Venice and other sites that are in existence in Council District 11 that the community members can point to and say.

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01:37:09.480 --> 01:37:17.940
Dario Alvarez: Well, you know Venice is already picking up. It's fair share. How about some sites in the palisades? How about other communities around Westchester, etc.?

1023
01:37:20.560 --> 01:37:21.469
Dario Alvarez: So

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01:37:21.920 --> 01:37:23.059
let's see

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01:37:27.360 --> 01:37:43.699
Dario Alvarez: The the report I believe, will be made available by the Homelessness Committee for people to download and and and and dissect in earnest. You can also go to our web page, Pacific urbanism.org. And look at the years of studies that we've been conducting around both homeless

1026
01:37:43.840 --> 01:37:51.639
Dario Alvarez: sanctuary and and other studies that have to do with land use, etc., and you're always welcome to email me

1027
01:37:51.720 --> 01:37:52.930
Dario Alvarez: or to me.

1028
01:37:53.070 --> 01:37:57.290
Dario Alvarez: Those of you who know me know that i'm a very approachable person, and

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01:37:58.170 --> 01:38:10.750
Dario Alvarez: I dedicated my professional career to this. I am a nerd about these issues, so i'm happy to talk about them in greater detail, and frankly, to talk research methods. Research design is one of my passions. So you can always reach out to me.

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01:38:12.180 --> 01:38:17.040
Dario Alvarez: let's see here union labor.

1031
01:38:18.160 --> 01:38:21.569
Dario Alvarez: Well, I think there are different philosophical positions on this.

1032
01:38:21.660 --> 01:38:24.130
Dario Alvarez: but I think we can find that

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01:38:24.590 --> 01:38:28.100
Dario Alvarez: the prevailing wages are not unnecessarily high.

1034
01:38:28.360 --> 01:38:36.120
Dario Alvarez: but I think that's a separate discussion. and where the funds come from is not something that i'm proposing or presenting

1035
01:38:36.390 --> 01:38:38.060
Dario Alvarez: this study looks at

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01:38:38.350 --> 01:38:53.199
Dario Alvarez: Government land, and then also private line that's potentially just as suitable for consideration. And then, reviews, those sites individually to present the sites that are not definite knows to the community for the community to consider.

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01:38:53.590 --> 01:39:03.199
Dario Alvarez: the Penmark Golf course, example is, I think, a really worthwhile example. There's an article that was written written about using golf courses for interim housing

1038
01:39:03.240 --> 01:39:04.330
Dario Alvarez: for the homeless.

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01:39:04.390 --> 01:39:19.560
Dario Alvarez: It's a contentious topic some people get really upset at the idea that that it would even be considered. And it's true that some golf courses have ancillary area like parking lots and parts of the course that that aren't a whole

1040
01:39:19.580 --> 01:39:25.450
Dario Alvarez: extra space that could be used. We've eliminated it from the study, because, like other

1041
01:39:25.470 --> 01:39:33.529
Dario Alvarez: community input where we take it seriously, so we use it to show that even when we take in all of the land that people

1042
01:39:34.140 --> 01:39:39.309
Dario Alvarez: some people in the community definitely don't want to see considered as an option.

1043
01:39:39.520 --> 01:39:42.740
Dario Alvarez: The point is, there are still options to consider.

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01:39:43.120 --> 01:39:52.610
Dario Alvarez: you don't. The community need not take positions like well, you know, just put everyone in the desert which is not realistic and and inhumane.

1045
01:39:52.840 --> 01:40:03.629
Dario Alvarez: but we've removed Penmark golf course for that reason, and frankly, the the Westchester golf course I also was identified, but was removed because it's

1046
01:40:04.040 --> 01:40:14.869
Dario Alvarez: a golf course, and the areas outside of the golf course, the Westchester golf course that are not holes are inside of the airport noise contours which are unhealthy to live in. So we've removed those

1047
01:40:15.460 --> 01:40:26.979
Dario Alvarez: moving on to. Well, there's someone who said that, you know. This shows that there's not really space in Venice. I think that's a fair assessment. There is face in Venice, but everyone has an issue

1048
01:40:27.130 --> 01:40:29.870
Dario Alvarez: with one site or another.

1049
01:40:29.900 --> 01:40:36.200
Dario Alvarez: And so, if the community is going to decide that they will oppose that. You will oppose

1050
01:40:36.300 --> 01:40:47.690
Dario Alvarez: all sites in Venice. Well, at the very least, this study can provide an inventory of sites outside of Venice for you to discuss with your decision makers and other and other folks to consider

1051
01:40:48.080 --> 01:40:49.590
Dario Alvarez: I don't.

1052
01:40:49.710 --> 01:40:51.470
Dario Alvarez: I I don't.

1053
01:40:52.510 --> 01:40:55.100
Dario Alvarez: I don't know what to say about the scope creep.

1054
01:40:55.310 --> 01:40:56.269
Dario Alvarez: I don't

1055
01:40:56.410 --> 01:41:01.370
Dario Alvarez: I don't really want to engage in language like refugee.

1056
01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:13.169
Dario Alvarez: there wasn't an end to that statement. But but I know that this is a contentious issue with the like many others. We've been working on this for years, and it's you know some folks describe it as a

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01:41:13.600 --> 01:41:15.459
Dario Alvarez: full contact. Support

1058
01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:25.480
Dario Alvarez: it's it's contentious, and folks they're different philosophical physicians on this. So once again at the very least, there's an inventory of sites that has been

1059
01:41:25.670 --> 01:41:27.570
Dario Alvarez: so reasonably

1060
01:41:28.450 --> 01:41:32.309
Dario Alvarez: that has been so reasonably vetted that some of the sites that remain.

1061
01:41:32.460 --> 01:41:37.969
Dario Alvarez: our our actual sites used for programs which I think speaks to the validity

1062
01:41:38.100 --> 01:41:40.470
Dario Alvarez: The rest of the sites for consideration.

1063
01:41:42.620 --> 01:41:47.039
Dario Alvarez: But i'll clarify. There's no pressure here. This is a list of sites for your consideration.

1064
01:41:48.910 --> 01:41:52.200
Dario Alvarez: I mentioned the reports going online.

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01:41:52.390 --> 01:42:02.960
Dario Alvarez: Andrew. I i'd like to get to know you better. I think you know you may be one of the few folks on the current homeless Community Committee that I haven't met

1066
01:42:02.990 --> 01:42:07.709
Dario Alvarez: and maybe you've gotten enough of an introduction as to who I am. But

1067
01:42:07.790 --> 01:42:10.389
Dario Alvarez: but i'd be happy to speak offline with you and and

1068
01:42:10.920 --> 01:42:16.980
Dario Alvarez: i'm sorry i'm sorry

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01:42:17.090 --> 01:42:27.229
Dario Alvarez: I think some I same same one of the few people in the Linux committee who I haven't interacted with yet. But but i'd be happy to get to know you better. Andrew, what I've been

1070
01:42:27.290 --> 01:42:31.720
Dario Alvarez: researching Venice academically since 2,005,

1071
01:42:31.940 --> 01:42:35.999
Dario Alvarez: and have studied it in many dimensions

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Dario Alvarez: for no purpose of of personal gain or the personal gain of of developers, so that that suspicion

1073
01:42:43.700 --> 01:42:56.610
Dario Alvarez: Yeah, it's yours to to hold on to. I don't believe it's doing you any service. But there's a there are a number of planning support tools that I learned in graduate school, and I've been applying to support communities like Venice

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01:42:56.690 --> 01:43:01.230
Dario Alvarez: and i'd be happy to Just talk to you about more about the research.

1075
01:43:03.620 --> 01:43:08.479
Dario Alvarez: I I spoke to the the where the 400 square foot comes from.

1076
01:43:08.520 --> 01:43:12.819
Dario Alvarez: I'd like to address the burden or the distribution of the burden.

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01:43:13.420 --> 01:43:17.210
Dario Alvarez: briefly. Here, let me let me pull a

1078
01:43:18.180 --> 01:43:21.239
Dario Alvarez: This is just something that I was doing quickly before

1079
01:43:21.410 --> 01:43:22.850
Dario Alvarez: before this meeting.

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01:43:23.410 --> 01:43:27.470
Dario Alvarez: I mentioned that there are several ways that the

1081
01:43:27.660 --> 01:43:29.249
Dario Alvarez: shelters can be distributed.

1082
01:43:29.590 --> 01:43:31.540
Dario Alvarez: and they can either be distributed

1083
01:43:31.740 --> 01:43:32.900
Dario Alvarez: not randomly.

1084
01:43:33.040 --> 01:43:41.419
Dario Alvarez: or they can be distributed and shares equivalent to the the unsheltered population. So these are these are the community planet areas that have a centroid in

1085
01:43:41.610 --> 01:43:53.620
Dario Alvarez: Council District 11. Not the entirety of of all of the community plan. Areas are in Council District 11, but the sum of the count of the current unsheltered population is shown here.

1086
01:43:53.650 --> 01:43:58.989
Dario Alvarez: and the the proportional share is it's shown in this column. J.

1087
01:43:59.010 --> 01:44:08.039
Dario Alvarez: Now we've we've also developed an equitable distribution method for housing, and it takes into account a number of of metrics, and I can speak to others offline about that.

1088
01:44:08.210 --> 01:44:09.260
Dario Alvarez: But if we take.

1089
01:44:09.500 --> 01:44:17.760
Dario Alvarez: though, that proportion into account. You know the difference for Venice is, it's either taking 35%,

1090
01:44:17.800 --> 01:44:24.410
Dario Alvarez: the shelters, or it's taking something like 19% of the shelters, whereas the Palisades, if it takes the the

1091
01:44:24.580 --> 01:44:37.680
Dario Alvarez: number of shelters proportional to its share of the UN sheltered, it would take 6 of the shelters; but if it took an equitable portion, it would be something closer to 20. So there's once again in this

1092
01:44:37.850 --> 01:44:42.929
Dario Alvarez: study. There's no proposed. There's no proposal as to how they ought to be

1093
01:44:42.960 --> 01:44:44.219
Dario Alvarez: distributed.

1094
01:44:45.050 --> 01:44:47.259
Dario Alvarez: We merely recognize that there are

1095
01:44:47.290 --> 01:44:49.610
Dario Alvarez: multiple ways in which

1096
01:44:49.850 --> 01:44:52.029
Dario Alvarez: shelters can be distributed.

1097
01:44:52.390 --> 01:44:59.700
Dario Alvarez: There's randomly. There's in shares proportional to the UN sheltered population, and there are equitable methods of distribution

1098
01:44:59.750 --> 01:45:00.830
Dario Alvarez: which we've developed for

1099
01:45:04.370 --> 01:45:07.099
Dario Alvarez: Let's see here.

1100
01:45:08.490 --> 01:45:09.700
Dario Alvarez: I

1101
01:45:10.070 --> 01:45:14.549
Dario Alvarez: you know there there are folks who said, let's get into let's get into the sites. This

1102
01:45:14.870 --> 01:45:32.430
Dario Alvarez: this someone asked if if this is available, if I if I can make this available. Yes, this is now live and online and then on on our web page, and you can go to it now, and it's the top article which they're organized chronologically, and you can look at all of the you can all look at all the sites in Council District 11,

1103
01:45:32.690 --> 01:45:41.479
Dario Alvarez: and all of the data that we have for them is is listed in the site itself, and just very quickly they're they're color, coded.

1104
01:45:41.800 --> 01:45:44.349
Dario Alvarez: Gray sites are good.

1105
01:45:44.480 --> 01:45:48.580
Dario Alvarez: light yellow are better and and bright yellow. Our best

1106
01:45:48.710 --> 01:45:52.030
Dario Alvarez: known encampments are shown in

1107
01:45:52.400 --> 01:46:00.509
Dario Alvarez: these purple or dots, and and then the density of the home of the unsheltered in the census tract, is it's color coding?

1108
01:46:00.600 --> 01:46:02.980
Dario Alvarez: And if you want to get.

1109
01:46:03.300 --> 01:46:06.669
Dario Alvarez: you know, fun with it, you can filter through.

1110
01:46:06.870 --> 01:46:16.729
Dario Alvarez: based on whether it's private or government, or their rank, or the owner, as listed in the tax assessor. And what will be filtered is this list down here?

1111
01:46:16.770 --> 01:46:20.470
Dario Alvarez: So you can look at the specific sites, and and

1112
01:46:20.760 --> 01:46:25.440
Dario Alvarez: and consider them on your own time, and discuss them on your own time in committee or individually.

1113
01:46:25.710 --> 01:46:31.600
Dario Alvarez: so that's to the web access. I haven't seen a Youtube video of

1114
01:46:31.710 --> 01:46:44.980
Dario Alvarez: how to put together modular housing. But I wouldn't be surprised if there is a Youtube video. I certainly haven't prepared one, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that there is. There is a very good study on

1115
01:46:45.950 --> 01:46:57.249
Dario Alvarez: not modular housing, but but so-called tiny homes, and I can make that study available to to the committee so that you can post it online. But I believe it was put together by

1116
01:46:57.520 --> 01:47:05.189
Dario Alvarez: an organization in in Oregon or in Washington, and it's, and it has a step by step.

1117
01:47:05.280 --> 01:47:07.539
Dario Alvarez: and there are also products

1118
01:47:07.660 --> 01:47:12.049
Dario Alvarez: like palette homes and a number of other products that are available off the shelf.

1119
01:47:12.240 --> 01:47:30.860
Dario Alvarez: I I I already address the under Count of Lhasa As to vendors, i'm not proposing that you use any vendors. In fact, our study looks at what the cost would be if the community built these themselves, and that's where there are real opportunities for cost savings.

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01:47:31.070 --> 01:47:39.790
Dario Alvarez: and, the estimates here are are performed according to architectural industry standards. We design

1121
01:47:39.880 --> 01:47:42.560
Dario Alvarez: a site or a building. We

1122
01:47:43.320 --> 01:47:49.270
Dario Alvarez: quantify the materials and labor, and we use current data

1123
01:47:49.410 --> 01:47:50.559
Dario Alvarez: for the costs

1124
01:47:50.590 --> 01:47:53.559
Dario Alvarez: to estimate the total cost.

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Dario Alvarez: And that, my friends, concludes my address to the various statements. Happy to this any further, If there are any.

1126
01:48:04.120 --> 01:48:07.899
Dario Alvarez: we are all always a pleasure to present to you. I hope.

1127
01:48:08.110 --> 01:48:10.569
Dario Alvarez: that the Venice community really

1128
01:48:11.190 --> 01:48:17.959
Dario Alvarez: finds consensus, and how to address some of these issues. I know it's not easy. We're trying to make light of it.

1129
01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:19.309
Dario Alvarez: but there are

1130
01:48:19.480 --> 01:48:22.849
Dario Alvarez: many of us, many of you present for

1131
01:48:22.890 --> 01:48:24.620
Dario Alvarez: working earnestly

1132
01:48:24.730 --> 01:48:26.690
Dario Alvarez: at this and other

1133
01:48:26.750 --> 01:48:30.099
Dario Alvarez: land use and housing issues to to a better.

1134
01:48:30.220 --> 01:48:32.540
Dario Alvarez: a series of communities

1135
01:48:32.670 --> 01:48:37.099
frank murphy: in and around Los Angeles. So thank you very much.

1136
01:48:37.160 --> 01:48:42.500
frank murphy: you're not going to get off that easy. The committee wants to talk to you now

1137
01:48:44.380 --> 01:48:54.019
frank murphy: are the committee. Let's let's let's hear i'm i'm i'm always pat you've been patient as well. I apologize.

1138
01:48:54.400 --> 01:48:56.360
PatRaphael: Well, I

1139
01:48:56.670 --> 01:49:07.260
PatRaphael: I think Some of my main questions were one of the last ones answered, because, as he was going backwards, he touched up on not having a vendor in mind.

1140
01:49:07.690 --> 01:49:10.960
PatRaphael: So when we were considering, cost estimates

1141
01:49:10.990 --> 01:49:12.989
PatRaphael: it wasn't in light of a vendor.

1142
01:49:13.340 --> 01:49:15.419
PatRaphael: and then the 1,704

1143
01:49:15.530 --> 01:49:20.750
PatRaphael: we're conceiving that this might still be an under count. So when we're thinking of solutions.

1144
01:49:20.800 --> 01:49:23.569
PatRaphael: there's still a population that is really good at

1145
01:49:23.740 --> 01:49:26.710
PatRaphael: kind of remaining unseen when we're when we're counting.

1146
01:49:27.090 --> 01:49:28.490
PatRaphael: And then

1147
01:49:28.730 --> 01:49:29.719
PatRaphael: finally.

1148
01:49:29.930 --> 01:49:33.609
PatRaphael: I wanted to thank you guys for compiling this data, right? Because

1149
01:49:33.890 --> 01:49:35.700
PatRaphael: if we're about solutions.

1150
01:49:35.720 --> 01:49:37.829
PatRaphael: we're gonna need data to get there.

1151
01:49:38.140 --> 01:49:56.660
PatRaphael: So when in light of data, people are just looking for reasons to reject the data it kind of is a is a giveaway to me. It makes me think that people of that mindset may be all about solution, because they're not even about to consider the data. So the last thing I wanted to put out.

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PatRaphael: I am open to making our next meeting a joint meeting as well the one we're having in December.

1153
01:50:03.300 --> 01:50:22.400
PatRaphael: because that can help people get a chance to digest the information that's out there and then, and then be more first in in how they they answer questions. So finally the Wine Guard foundation they've been around. They've been in in Skid Row for a long time. They've cared about this issue.

1154
01:50:22.410 --> 01:50:24.939
PatRaphael: so them throwing money to

1155
01:50:25.250 --> 01:50:40.370
PatRaphael: get some information out. Seems to be right up there alley to me. I mean I I I don't I don't see any reason to think of that other than what they would be doing. I mean, of course they have a checkered history. there's people I know from who deal with them in the eighties

1156
01:50:40.380 --> 01:50:45.350
PatRaphael: that are. It's 2 different organizations.

1157
01:50:45.370 --> 01:50:52.930
PatRaphael: but we're up to 2 min. Thank you guys, for the info. I appreciate the the the time you spent

1158
01:50:53.630 --> 01:50:57.640
Brian U: the one guard center is not the foundation. It's 2 separate entities.

1159
01:50:58.520 --> 01:50:59.450
frank murphy: Okay.

1160
01:51:00.060 --> 01:51:00.889
frank murphy: Thanks.

1161
01:51:01.580 --> 01:51:06.139
frank murphy: Thanks for Pat. Thanks. Brian. okay.

1162
01:51:07.400 --> 01:51:11.589
frank murphy: Oh, let's go here to

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01:51:12.190 --> 01:51:23.960
frank murphy: Dan had his hand up for a while, and I think my new shed their hand up for a while. Stan, Stan, can you? you want to go ahead. I just wanted to say Thank you, Frank. As our chair

1164
01:51:24.550 --> 01:51:27.880
Ansar Muhammad: of the homeless Committee. I wanted to thank the loop that committee

1165
01:51:28.150 --> 01:51:31.630
Ansar Muhammad: chair for joining us tonight. I think it was a beautiful

1166
01:51:31.960 --> 01:51:34.190
Ansar Muhammad: presentation.

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01:51:34.820 --> 01:51:37.410
Ansar Muhammad: The more we can have this conversation the better.

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01:51:37.800 --> 01:51:41.710
Ansar Muhammad: I think it's always good to have coalition and collaboration with other

1169
01:51:41.940 --> 01:51:45.599
Ansar Muhammad: you know Neighborhood Council committees around this issue.

1170
01:51:45.920 --> 01:51:49.330
Ansar Muhammad: you know, Dary you you you did a hell of a job.

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01:51:49.840 --> 01:51:53.750
Ansar Muhammad: and I think, those of you who is on this call.

1172
01:51:54.110 --> 01:51:57.769
Ansar Muhammad: who is always either complaining or coming up with

1173
01:51:58.290 --> 01:52:00.730
Ansar Muhammad: reasons for not supporting

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Ansar Muhammad: these type of conversations. You should take a take time out to go on

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01:52:05.760 --> 01:52:07.810
Ansar Muhammad: and take a walk.

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01:52:08.360 --> 01:52:11.200
Ansar Muhammad: or take time out to go on, flower and take a walk.

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01:52:11.560 --> 01:52:16.350
Ansar Muhammad: and then ask yourself, is these suitable locations for people to be on the concrete tonight?

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01:52:16.710 --> 01:52:18.670
Ansar Muhammad: it's pretty cold outside.

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01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:23.350
Ansar Muhammad: and so I i'm just thinking that whatever we can do as a group of people

1180
01:52:23.700 --> 01:52:27.110
Ansar Muhammad: as a committee we should be open minded

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01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:31.639
Ansar Muhammad: for 2,023, and come up with strategies and solutions

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01:52:31.710 --> 01:52:32.920
Ansar Muhammad: immediately.

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01:52:33.250 --> 01:52:38.749
Ansar Muhammad: because not only do you have people that's on the concrete. You have people that's literally dying out there.

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01:52:39.250 --> 01:52:44.329
Ansar Muhammad: And so, when we come to these type of spaces, and we have these top of presentations.

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01:52:44.520 --> 01:52:47.230
Ansar Muhammad: I'm. Hoping that we can come with an open mind

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01:52:47.720 --> 01:52:51.960
Ansar Muhammad: Dario does not have an invested interest in Venice. He's not from Venice.

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01:52:52.130 --> 01:52:54.649
Ansar Muhammad: but you can see his passion.

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01:52:54.850 --> 01:52:57.110
Ansar Muhammad: It's the servant to help the people

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01:52:57.340 --> 01:53:00.150
Ansar Muhammad: that is homeless or is unhoused.

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Ansar Muhammad: So thank you, man, I appreciate you. I appreciate you, Frank, and let's continue this conversation. Thank you.

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01:53:07.450 --> 01:53:08.610
frank murphy: Thanks, Stan.

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01:53:18.020 --> 01:53:20.599
You got to on mute.

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01:53:20.680 --> 01:53:22.089
frank murphy: or we can come back

1194
01:53:25.750 --> 01:53:27.620
frank murphy: or do I have you muted?

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01:53:36.070 --> 01:53:36.790
Yeah.

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Andrew Mika: I I just quickly, right away for that one. Say, thank you, Daria, for addressing my questions. it was strictly that I there was no introduction, and I wanted to get some background and thank you for making the survey public. I look forward to digging in further

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frank murphy: thanks. Andrew.

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frank murphy: Barry.

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barrycassilly: Yeah. Hi, everybody.

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01:54:03.460 --> 01:54:04.330
barrycassilly: you know.

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01:54:04.810 --> 01:54:08.750
barrycassilly: I was listening to all public comments. And

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01:54:09.030 --> 01:54:13.030
barrycassilly: you know, I think most people know that I'm. I'm

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01:54:13.260 --> 01:54:19.189
barrycassilly: I'm. Very sensitive to the concerns that people have about the over concentration

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01:54:19.430 --> 01:54:25.070
barrycassilly: of services in a small area like Venice and the

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01:54:25.140 --> 01:54:28.730
barrycassilly: the equity questions that raises

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01:54:28.780 --> 01:54:29.940
barrycassilly: However.

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01:54:31.430 --> 01:54:35.999
barrycassilly: you know, I think that we just had this very contentious election.

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01:54:36.370 --> 01:54:38.099
barrycassilly: The election is over.

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01:54:38.320 --> 01:54:45.890
barrycassilly: i'm very happy to be a part of this meeting. I'm very hopeful

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01:54:46.180 --> 01:54:56.199
barrycassilly: that. This effort to begin a substantial conversation. And to me that's what Dario is all about substance. Here's the data

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01:54:56.690 --> 01:55:02.349
barrycassilly: you guys go like, do whatever with it. But here's the information.

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01:55:02.530 --> 01:55:05.359
barrycassilly: I think if we, if we're not

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01:55:05.560 --> 01:55:09.269
barrycassilly: willing to look at the facts.

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01:55:09.360 --> 01:55:20.540
barrycassilly: it's just stuff is not going to work out for us, so and I think, but I do think that there are 2 thing. There's something that everybody needs to come to terms with

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01:55:20.560 --> 01:55:24.939
barrycassilly: and that is that. However

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01:55:24.980 --> 01:55:33.319
barrycassilly: much people may not like homeless people in their neighborhood. You cannot move people off the street

1217
01:55:33.580 --> 01:55:36.199
barrycassilly: without having a place for them to go.

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01:55:36.470 --> 01:55:42.820
barrycassilly: That's just the law, and you cannot enforce your way out of this problem.

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01:55:42.910 --> 01:55:45.230
barrycassilly: we have to be

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01:55:45.350 --> 01:55:48.440
barrycassilly: part of the solution a real solution.

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01:55:48.560 --> 01:55:55.110
barrycassilly: If we're going to get the results that everybody wants we we we really are on this together.

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01:55:55.260 --> 01:55:57.170
barrycassilly: so

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01:55:57.420 --> 01:56:00.960
barrycassilly: you know, I think every every oh.

1224
01:56:01.190 --> 01:56:03.580
barrycassilly: if we could also agree that

1225
01:56:03.750 --> 01:56:07.559
barrycassilly: the way things the way we've been doing things so far has not worked.

1226
01:56:07.900 --> 01:56:12.780
barrycassilly: Nobody wants to, I think very, very few people want to double down on failure.

1227
01:56:12.950 --> 01:56:16.009
barrycassilly: but so

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01:56:16.670 --> 01:56:22.929
barrycassilly: now it's our time to, I think. come to the plate and

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01:56:22.990 --> 01:56:24.900
barrycassilly: get some real solutions going.

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01:56:24.990 --> 01:56:30.309
barrycassilly: but we have to be able to engage in the conversation hopefully, constructively.

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Thank you.

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01:56:32.940 --> 01:56:34.130
frank murphy: Thanks, Barry.

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01:56:34.480 --> 01:56:41.610
frank murphy: My new shot, Michael. I was going to give you the last one. I but my new shot still has her hand up.

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01:56:44.870 --> 01:56:47.889
Michael Jensen: can unmute herself, and we that's fine.

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01:56:48.270 --> 01:56:49.550
Michael Jensen: I can go to.

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01:56:50.470 --> 01:56:52.379
frank murphy: Can you unmute yourself?

1237
01:56:52.740 --> 01:56:54.080
Michael Jensen: I have asked it on mute.

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01:56:54.280 --> 01:56:57.619
frank murphy: Oh, okay, all right. Well, you're on

1239
01:56:58.160 --> 01:57:03.190
Michael Jensen: Yeah, I so I You know my sentiments. I actually I I

1240
01:57:03.530 --> 01:57:07.069
Michael Jensen: I I just calling up what Barry said. I think

1241
01:57:07.460 --> 01:57:13.089
Michael Jensen: I I there's no one on this call that probably does not want to see our streets clean and

1242
01:57:13.220 --> 01:57:14.649
Michael Jensen: people off the streets.

1243
01:57:15.270 --> 01:57:18.199
Michael Jensen: That's that's the goal here, and

1244
01:57:19.090 --> 01:57:21.290
Michael Jensen: we can talk about how

1245
01:57:21.460 --> 01:57:27.340
Michael Jensen: the approaches differ to get to that point. But to to get to a point where we can enforce

1246
01:57:27.760 --> 01:57:29.500
Michael Jensen: the law that

1247
01:57:29.690 --> 01:57:37.350
Michael Jensen: in the way that we want to, you know, we need to adhere to the legal standard in in Boise, and there are multiple pathways to get there.

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01:57:37.470 --> 01:57:40.919
Michael Jensen: There is the the housing first model, which

1249
01:57:40.990 --> 01:57:46.509
Michael Jensen: is, is one way to do it. There is a a a bunch of things between

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01:57:46.600 --> 01:57:49.569
Michael Jensen: that and creating immediate shelters

1251
01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:52.530
Michael Jensen: that I believe meet those standards. So

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01:57:52.560 --> 01:57:57.980
Michael Jensen: I I kind of. I wanted to go into this with an open mind, because I I wouldn't call myself a an advocate

1253
01:57:58.320 --> 01:58:00.820
Michael Jensen: in this arena. But

1254
01:58:01.010 --> 01:58:09.210
Michael Jensen: I think getting the data is really the first step to making an informed decision, and and debating with real substance what

1255
01:58:09.550 --> 01:58:11.559
Michael Jensen: what pathway we're going to take

1256
01:58:11.720 --> 01:58:13.760
Michael Jensen: to best do it, because clearly

1257
01:58:13.890 --> 01:58:17.470
Michael Jensen: the last 30 40 years have not been effective.

1258
01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:23.669
Michael Jensen: and we can talk about that in the context of homelessness or construction, of housing.

1259
01:58:23.780 --> 01:58:28.629
Michael Jensen: or, you know, affordable housing a bunch of conversations.

1260
01:58:28.740 --> 01:58:31.570
Michael Jensen: but to sort of just maybe distract us from

1261
01:58:31.600 --> 01:58:38.140
Michael Jensen: I mean, we we know the problems in Venice. I'm just wondering if Dario can you zoom out and maybe show us

1262
01:58:38.450 --> 01:58:45.760
Michael Jensen: like, Can we bounce around some places in the Palisades, I mean, I I Obviously they have a lot of hillsides. So i'm wondering

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01:58:46.010 --> 01:58:50.119
Michael Jensen: what suitable locations there are that you scored there.

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01:58:50.310 --> 01:58:59.260
Michael Jensen: Westchester, I mean. I think we're probably more familiar with that. But I but I think You know we've felt like we've been saddled with, I think, and

1265
01:58:59.440 --> 01:59:03.360
Michael Jensen: unequal amount of the burden, so maybe we can just identify

1266
01:59:03.520 --> 01:59:06.760
Michael Jensen: places around CD 11 that are not slated for

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01:59:06.980 --> 01:59:09.330
Michael Jensen: projects like we have

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01:59:09.740 --> 01:59:12.149
Michael Jensen: in the in the lots you identified in Venice.

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01:59:12.380 --> 01:59:17.549
Michael Jensen: maybe that's something that everybody here can can can agree that we can point to.

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01:59:17.590 --> 01:59:19.800
Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yes, I agree

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frank murphy: Might want to do that at another meeting. Because

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frank murphy: I think that

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01:59:27.110 --> 01:59:30.239
frank murphy: we we're trying to keep this as

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01:59:30.310 --> 01:59:32.589
frank murphy: then as specific as possible.

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Michael Jensen: That's well, maybe so, Dario is. This is this data open source? Can I? I mean, I use our gis. But can I access this publicly, or do you have to share it?

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01:59:43.320 --> 01:59:49.169
Dario Alvarez: You may access it publicly. It's online. It's on our web page. As I mentioned it's the it's the

1277
01:59:49.490 --> 01:59:54.860
Dario Alvarez: most recent particle in all articles. And and you can

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Michael Jensen: i'll i'll tool around on the site, and and just see. But I think for everybody who's concerned about like over concentration. Venice, I think

1279
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Michael Jensen: you know.

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Michael Jensen: Go see what else is out there, because I bet that there's a lot.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: No. May I say something?

1282
02:00:11.890 --> 02:00:13.530
Michael Jensen: I'm a nurse? Yeah.

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frank murphy: Hi,

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: hi, everybody! Good evening. You've done a great work, but you know, sometimes I feel like, how do they need really help besides housing. But that's beside the point that we're talking about tonight.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: and also as far as locations that concern some of them. I feel like around airport la Airport is a lot of lots there. They can be done, and sometimes I go in a downtown in the southern part of the Los Angeles area. there is

1286
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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: so many buildings that are empty that they can be used. But the question is, do they want to go there. How do you get them there?

1287
02:00:54.020 --> 02:00:58.570
Mehrnoosh Mojallali: How do you provide any housing forum? Is that what they want?

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02:00:58.710 --> 02:01:11.520
Mehrnoosh Mojallali: do they need any sort of other kind of a health issues that they need to do is not just money and location, I don't think. But I, you know this is complicated. I'm just talking.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: but they are located other locations that are possibilities, especially downtown. So many high-rise buildings are not used

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: anyway, around the airport as well.

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Okay, and few other ones, but I Haven't studied them. But I think Tari is done a great work studying that takes a lot of effort. So

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frank murphy: okay, so

1293
02:01:38.980 --> 02:01:39.580
Yeah.

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02:01:42.080 --> 02:01:46.370
Michael Jensen: okay, because this stuff hit the Council Office or the Mayor's office yet.

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02:01:46.400 --> 02:01:48.460
Michael Jensen: or Daria. Maybe it's a better question for you.

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02:01:50.360 --> 02:01:52.040
Dario Alvarez: Not yeah.

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Dario Alvarez: Well, some of the office here, I mean we we shared these sites both both Council and Mayor's office

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02:01:59.440 --> 02:02:03.450
Dario Alvarez: back when we prepare to the initial report for the lawsuit.

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02:02:06.300 --> 02:02:07.529
Dario Alvarez: the city and county.

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02:02:08.100 --> 02:02:17.740
Dario Alvarez: this most recent study. we literally worked up until this meetings hour to to get it ready for for this, for this committee meeting.

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Dario Alvarez: so this new list of sites has not been shared with the mayor's office, but the it's a broader list of sites has, and If those are all of the comments I i'll just

1302
02:02:26.200 --> 02:02:32.039
Dario Alvarez: I mentioned to folks if you do choose to go. Look at the at the web page

1303
02:02:32.320 --> 02:02:35.129
Dario Alvarez: and and they're for using the sites.

1304
02:02:35.460 --> 02:02:38.810
Dario Alvarez: And there's a filter in this filter icon

1305
02:02:39.280 --> 02:02:45.409
Dario Alvarez: where you can turn on list. Only sites suitable for permanent housing, and it'll filter the list down below.

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02:02:45.610 --> 02:02:47.690
Dario Alvarez: What this is doing is it's

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02:02:48.370 --> 02:02:54.409
Dario Alvarez: we're moving from the list any site that is less than 19,500 square feet.

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02:02:54.600 --> 02:03:01.559
Dario Alvarez: So if we take that site, capacity of 30 beds at a minimum multiplied by 650 square feet.

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02:03:01.880 --> 02:03:04.569
Dario Alvarez: there's the criteria for permanent housing

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Dario Alvarez: since some folks mentioned. Well, there's a range of ways to do it, you know shelters and permanent housing, etc., and you want to look at just sites that are suitable for

1311
02:03:13.820 --> 02:03:14.690
Dario Alvarez: for

1312
02:03:14.910 --> 02:03:18.020
Dario Alvarez: units that are permanent in nature.

1313
02:03:18.210 --> 02:03:20.739
Dario Alvarez: Now, then, you can, then you can use that filter.

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02:03:20.920 --> 02:03:30.480
Dario Alvarez: but other than that, I think there were more comments than questions. I think everyone's kind words

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02:03:30.600 --> 02:03:32.619
Dario Alvarez: tart, so thank you for that.

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Dario Alvarez: and I don't know if there's anything else to address. At this point i'd be happy to.

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frank murphy: We're not done. Let's see.

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frank murphy: Brian.

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Brian U: thanks, Frank Dario and everybody, and I believe from bottom of my heart that everyone's intention on this call is is to do the right thing for Venice.

1320
02:03:54.450 --> 02:04:00.120
Brian U: The problem is, you're trying to recreate a wheel, and the and the bus already left the station.

1321
02:04:00.450 --> 02:04:08.279
Brian U: Cbre cold in in in downtown. La has already been engaged by the city. They provided a 50,000 site

1322
02:04:08.470 --> 02:04:10.739
Brian U: analysis of everything.

1323
02:04:10.920 --> 02:04:17.069
Brian U: you're doing something for Michael Santana. Santana used to be the CEO of the City Council.

1324
02:04:17.120 --> 02:04:22.989
Brian U: and he's the one that approves on his community housing to become that he then got put out into the

1325
02:04:23.130 --> 02:04:29.000
Brian U: promot a fairgrounds, and now he's at the Weinar Foundation with a $600,000 year Salary

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02:04:29.100 --> 02:04:36.150
Brian U: what I'm trying to tell you is our intention is great, and Venice and you guys are doing your homework.

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02:04:36.250 --> 02:04:40.909
Brian U: Do you understand the Oakwood Church in that property as an escrow to close next week

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02:04:42.070 --> 02:04:44.489
Brian U: for homeless housing and affordable housing.

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02:04:47.230 --> 02:04:52.920
Dario Alvarez: I don't believe they. I I I work for a company that's doing it.

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Dario Alvarez: No, I I hear you

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02:04:57.500 --> 02:04:59.210
Brian U: i'm saying the church

1332
02:04:59.400 --> 02:05:02.930
Brian U: was dedicated to be a a

1333
02:05:03.110 --> 02:05:04.200
Brian U: historic.

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02:05:04.290 --> 02:05:07.620
Brian U: and through the Council offices here. This is their going away present.

1335
02:05:07.920 --> 02:05:11.669
Brian U: They've got a developer already picked, and they're closing it before the end of the year.

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02:05:12.070 --> 02:05:13.959
Brian U: So that's not even on your map.

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02:05:14.070 --> 02:05:24.200
Brian U: if that's a developable site, and it's closing behind the scenes the way everything closes behind the scenes, hey? I would like to think our intentions are great.

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02:05:24.320 --> 02:05:31.519
Brian U: but all of this stuff is done in a back room, because I've seen it. I've been there. I've sat in Mike's house.

1339
02:05:32.240 --> 02:05:37.809
Brian U: and when I talk bad about Mike, there are people on this call that go directly and report me for saying it.

1340
02:05:38.590 --> 02:05:41.839
Brian U: Mike intentionally turned Venice into the dream

1341
02:05:41.980 --> 02:05:49.449
Brian U: for political ramifications there wasn't if he sides with half versus the other half. When you go to the polls, the votes cancel out

1342
02:05:49.580 --> 02:05:53.049
Brian U: as long as he doesn't hurt the surrounding areas.

1343
02:05:53.120 --> 02:05:54.309
Brian U: He wins.

1344
02:05:54.480 --> 02:05:57.539
Brian U: I by doing this to Venice. He didn't care

1345
02:05:57.770 --> 02:06:03.449
Brian U: alright, that's a political deal. You understand that all of these sites and everything that's gets done.

1346
02:06:03.760 --> 02:06:07.320
Brian U: It's all done in the City Council vote training system.

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02:06:07.650 --> 02:06:14.639
Brian U: It is an automatic that if Mike Bonn comes with a site he gets totally passed.

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02:06:14.930 --> 02:06:27.600
Brian U: and and and you totally pass the vote for him, because when the next city councilman comes for a vote, they get it a unanimous thing. It's called the vote Trading System, which means a city councilman

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Brian U: can go to any developer he wants and say, i'm going to cut my deal with you because i'm going to guarantee you that you're going to get the Development rights to do this project.

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Brian U: And I think we're naive, that we, I I the heart of the system of which we're trying to do tonight is great.

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02:06:46.650 --> 02:06:52.839
Brian U: How how well did we do trying to get a community benefits agreement, and in in the bridge housing.

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02:06:53.220 --> 02:06:55.129
Brian U: They just stick a finger up

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02:06:55.280 --> 02:06:58.829
Brian U: all right. You think you're going to go. Stop the oakwood thing from closing next week.

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02:07:00.100 --> 02:07:04.739
Brian U: They stop pesky from building this house by turning it into a historic landmark.

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02:07:05.310 --> 02:07:12.549
Brian U: The developers didn't want to do it, because that piece of property doesn't pencil with that being a homeless. So he turns in a new community center.

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Brian U: lift the lift, the

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02:07:15.380 --> 02:07:20.809
Brian U: the historic site, and it becomes an income producing property, and they'll make it a community center.

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02:07:21.040 --> 02:07:23.370
Brian U: and they'll have like a circle team paying rent.

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02:07:24.500 --> 02:07:32.779
Brian U: It's just it's it's naive to think that that we, as this little community, because half the community sides with that side.

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02:07:33.000 --> 02:07:34.969
Brian U: and they side with that side.

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02:07:35.080 --> 02:07:44.290
Brian U: because that's how they get paid. The nonprofits are the people that were stumping for the 5% increase in property taxes on a sales something over 5 million.

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02:07:44.380 --> 02:07:51.340
Brian U: Why did they do that? Because the funds raised between 900 and at 1.2 billion. All the money goes to homeless.

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02:07:51.480 --> 02:07:54.240
Brian U: And so the political power says, hey.

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02:07:54.520 --> 02:07:58.829
Brian U: Agency, 3 agencies in Venice. You go out and stump for this.

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02:07:59.110 --> 02:08:04.269
Brian U: And, by the way, if you don't stump for it, the 900 ground you're not going to get a contract.

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Brian U: but if you do stump for it. I owe you a favor, and i'll give you this next development side. Look at every development site that's been done in Venice. This all been done behind it, you know they get a we. We come in with the monster and a meeting. We came in with the the spy thing on like it.

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Brian U: We didn't get one vote. The decision was made before they got there.

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Brian U: and all of this stuff is done before

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Brian U: they they identify sites. They go to the developer. They cut that deal. This is why, Jose, we went to jail. This is why the 3 Latinos are kicked off the Council because they're trying to change the power and try to redistric. And our only guiding light in this is to get this community

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Brian U: to support Tracy and try to make a couple of changes that actually show that it works

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Brian U: the reality of the fact. You know they know we can't do shared housing. People deserve the room. Well, all they're doing. They're building these palette shelters, and there's 2 to a room

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Brian U: in a tiny little box, so you can do it for that. But you can't do it. You can do shared housing, and i'm i'm, i'm resigning from share

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Brian U: I have no interest. I have no money. I have nothing from any of these things.

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but

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Brian U: open the eyes and find out really what it is. This is a ship.

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Brian U: They have no intention of solving the homelessness.

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Brian U: All right. They have intention of service in the homelessness.

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Brian U: all right. Every dollar that comes from the State and the Feds comes down to this group, and they spend it the way they want.

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Brian U: When you have a corrupt system that votes the way they do

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Brian U: it. Doesn't matter if the

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Brian U: 5, them whatever the word is so I don't. I don't mean to discredit the efforts of what we're trying to do. But you really need to open your eyes and understand how this works.

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frank murphy: Well, I think that the the point of this is to also open our eyes to the overall issues that are that we're being that we're facing.

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frank murphy: and Mike Bon, and will not be in office as of tomorrow.

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Brian U: Yeah. But as of tomorrow he's not in office, but he's got that place in escrow, and he's closing it when it is developer. I've ready, and it's it's done, You guys don't even know about it.

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frank murphy: Whoa! Whoa!

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Brian U: Brian? We're not gonna know about every specific deal. That's not what you just did with a study, Frank on Venice available properties, Oakwood Church and all that's not on your list. Maybe you just missed it, and I pre and I appreciate that.

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Brian U: But it's a big mess, because nobody knows behind the scenes that deal is already done.

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Brian U: And so what's going to happen? We're going to go to the Venice favorite council, and we're going to say, God damn it! They did this. We're going to pipe, and we're going to protest

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Brian U: he's already got it done. They don't care.

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They just don't.

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frank murphy: Okay,

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Brian U: But thank you for letting me get that off my chest.

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frank murphy: No problem, Brian, no problem, Lauren. You had your hand up

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lauren siegel: in light of what was just said I. I don't feel like my questions relevant. I was wondering if there is a way to share knowledge and and this tracking information within our district and other parts, as well as the other council districts. But

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lauren siegel: no, I I i'm not sure how it all works in light. Of all that was just said. It doesn't seem like the systems really

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lauren siegel: designed to succeed.

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lauren siegel: So of course not.

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frank murphy: I mean I get a phone call. I would do an outreach

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Brian U: if you want it to get in. You have to fit it.

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Brian U: Stay away from the sheriff. I go what? I'm helping house people.

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Brian U: It's just so bad, you guys, and and and and unfortunately nobody knows it.

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frank murphy: I hear your frustration.

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frank murphy: Barry, hang on to second Colette. You have your hand up.

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lauren siegel: I think you need to unmute.

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frank murphy: but it can be a few seconds. Oh, there you go!

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C Bailey: You're up.

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C Bailey: not totally working.

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C Bailey: thanks, Brian. That was quite an intense talk given

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C Bailey: you know I live blocks away from

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C Bailey: what is probably going to turn into another situation here in output and in Venice in general, Basically, this is

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C Bailey: the reason why people in in the neighborhood and in Venice get so upset when they hear more housing, homeless services. All of this going on is because there's no enforcement behind it.

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C Bailey: We were promised we were promised enforcement at bridge housing. That didn't happen.

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C Bailey: Flower is a complete free for all mass, and so is Third Street, and it's without the Enforcement. I I can't even think about

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C Bailey: any of it.

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C Bailey: Sorry it's just not it's just not relevant until we have some real enforcement.

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C Bailey: I'm keeping people from from being held up when they get out of the car after a hard day's work to people.

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C Bailey: you know, having people use their front yards as a bathroom, breaking into their yards every all of it, I mean. We've all experienced some sort of

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C Bailey: mayhem

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Mehrnoosh Mojallali: good.

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C Bailey: anyway. I know the keys

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C Bailey: had more than most of us. But it's it's it's ridiculous.

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frank murphy: Thanks. Call it. Perry.

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barrycassilly: Yeah,

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barrycassilly: sort of finishing on a downer of a note here. But

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barrycassilly: yeah, I think I think more of us are aware of how corrupt the system is and how divorced it is

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barrycassilly: from

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barrycassilly: It's

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barrycassilly: politically expressed intense of helping people on the streets. We know that.

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barrycassilly: the

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barrycassilly: the way the system set up is this is all about making money, and has very little to do with helping human beings.

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barrycassilly: and but you know, I think that in defense of having this meeting here.

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barrycassilly: you know who knows where the little guys, we mount. I'll get crushed again.

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barrycassilly: but

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barrycassilly: you know, I think this is a good faith effort to do the right thing

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barrycassilly: to

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barrycassilly: arrive at some attempted solutions that are real.

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barrycassilly: Not these like giant mega projects that are just gonna like funnel tons of money into people's pockets. but real solutions.

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barrycassilly: you know, on on a smaller scale that are more community based. where the community that's what this is. We're actually talking here. Maybe nobody will listen to us. But Tracy did get elected, and she said she would listen.

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barrycassilly: And

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barrycassilly: I, you know I completely feel Colette about the Enforcement issue.

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barrycassilly: I feel like i'm living in a war zone.

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barrycassilly: I don't leave the house at night without My giant police dog, and a a 4 foot long bag of light. I'd be crazy

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barrycassilly: to do that. Otherwise it's too dangerous.

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barrycassilly: And but we, you know, unless

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barrycassilly: you know, I feel like Mike Bottom is deliberately not provided places that safe places for people to go.

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barrycassilly: if we do that.

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barrycassilly: if we actually are agents of change. If we see this as an opportunity to actually help, and and and maybe bring about some positive constructive change for people.

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barrycassilly: I think we we serve the people on the street, we serve ourselves as well.

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barrycassilly: again. I mean not to be too hardcore about it. But

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barrycassilly: legally you cannot take people off the street unless you have a place for them to go. I don't think the city is interested in realistic places for them to go. I don't think the administration is. I know Mike Bonnet Wasn't. but we are

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barrycassilly: so

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barrycassilly: i'd like to give it a try.

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frank murphy: Thanks, Perry

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frank murphy: vicki

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Vicki Halliday: I agree with Barry I also.

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Vicki Halliday: and thinking back to the early part of this meeting, when people were skeptical about the data.

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Vicki Halliday: This is a starting place. I think every Neighborhood Council area has got to have this conversation.

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Vicki Halliday: If you don't like the data, go through and market and say, this is wrong, it's good. Bring it up in the conversation.

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Vicki Halliday: this is how we get anywhere as a community, because so far we have not gotten anywhere, because everybody is at everybody's throat about everything.

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Vicki Halliday: and I think that we have to start moving forward, and we have to be sensible about it.

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Vicki Halliday: And yeah, I've got a lot of opinions about bridge housing out here, and we just gunshots on third and helicopters circling a few minutes ago. We we live with that.

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Vicki Halliday: We are

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Vicki Halliday: voice that we need to use. And this is where the Neighborhood Council system

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Vicki Halliday: can be effective.

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Vicki Halliday: you know. Forget all the tiny little motions that Don't go anywhere, you know we weren't even able to put in a cis and bridge housing, because too many board members

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Vicki Halliday: live within a 1,000 feet of it.

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Vicki Halliday: That that new magical rule

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Vicki Halliday: making our voices heard anyway.

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Vicki Halliday: and I think everybody who came denied, and everybody who spoke, whether I agree with them or not. But this is this is a conversation Venice has to have. Westchester will have their own. The Palace age will have their own.

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Vicki Halliday: but this is Venice's conversation.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

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frank murphy: Okay.

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frank murphy: I think we've

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frank murphy: we've

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frank murphy: kind of tapped out our

1476
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lauren siegel: Enthusiasm

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frank murphy: reserves our enthusiasm reserve.

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frank murphy: and I want to thank Dario for you know taking time away from his 2 young boys, and spending it here with

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frank murphy: with us. folks.

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frank murphy: Elizabeth, you had a You had your hand up there.

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02:19:21.010 --> 02:19:23.729
frank murphy: Elizabeth, you you had your hand up.

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Dario Alvarez: This is how much I love you guys. I'm away from them to help you.

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Elizabeth Wright: Yeah, Gary, I just wanted to thank you. It is so nice to hear facts.

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frank murphy: Thanks, guys.

1485
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frank murphy: So so with that

1486
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frank murphy: we'll adjourn, and and Michael, you and I can talk again. And hopefully, put something else together. Maybe.

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Michael Jensen: Yeah, I don't know that we have another meeting in us for December.

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Michael Jensen: But January.

1489
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Michael Jensen: maybe

1490
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Michael Jensen: Yeah, we i'll i'll touch base with all the committee members. We'll see. But I we're getting into

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Michael Jensen: holiday party weekend.

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PatRaphael: We. I think we have a December meeting scheduled on the 29. Yeah, we have one schedule for the Homeless Committee. Yeah.

1493
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PatRaphael: if that could be a joint meeting, if

1494
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PatRaphael: again people want to consider this in light of

1495
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PatRaphael: not having had

1496
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PatRaphael: 3

1497
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PatRaphael: view of the

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PatRaphael: this stuff we're talking about.

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frank murphy: All right. I'll bring that up with Michael, and we'll we'll work out something on that

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lauren siegel: like you might want to remind people about the Usc. Events that that would be to 8 o'clock at Hotel Erwin.

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frank murphy: 6 o'clock to 8 o'clock at hotel or in person, so it should be really different.

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lauren siegel: Thanks, guys.

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02:20:59.650 --> 02:21:03.940
Michael Jensen: Thank you very much.

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C Bailey: Visit the website, you guys.

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frank murphy: you got it.

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Dario Alvarez: Thank you.