WEBVTT 1 00:01:17.250 --> 00:01:18.399 Evan Corrigan: Everyone. 2 00:01:27.860 --> 00:01:31.850 jim murez: I don't know. Elizabeth's got to accept. I've tried to promote her 4 times. 3 00:01:36.860 --> 00:01:39.340 robertthibodeau: So, Robert, you want to be host. Yeah. 4 00:01:40.330 --> 00:01:41.449 jim murez: Can you hear me? 5 00:01:42.100 --> 00:01:43.089 Yes. 6 00:01:43.240 --> 00:01:44.609 jim murez: I can't hear you. 7 00:01:46.740 --> 00:01:48.420 jim murez: Is it mine or yours? 8 00:01:48.490 --> 00:01:49.850 Evan Corrigan: I can hear, Robert. 9 00:01:50.610 --> 00:01:52.259 jim murez: I could answer anybody. 10 00:01:52.520 --> 00:02:00.110 robertthibodeau: Everybody's talking, but I can't hear you. I can hear everyone 11 00:02:01.010 --> 00:02:02.220 jim murez: I hear you now. 12 00:02:04.070 --> 00:02:05.850 robertthibodeau: Hi, can you hear us do it? 13 00:02:08.410 --> 00:02:09.150 Well. 14 00:02:17.730 --> 00:02:19.859 jim murez: that those things crazy? 15 00:02:22.810 --> 00:02:25.000 jim murez: But you can hear you guys can hear each other. 16 00:02:25.130 --> 00:02:27.050 Evan Corrigan: Yeah. 17 00:02:27.660 --> 00:02:30.489 robertthibodeau: yeah, we can hear Fine Evan and I can hear. 18 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:32.059 jim murez: Okay, good to know 19 00:02:35.440 --> 00:02:39.330 jim murez: Let's see if I can help promote seam selena. 20 00:02:39.750 --> 00:02:48.319 jim murez: And Elizabeth. I've tried, but it's not happening if you made me. Oh, maybe my volumes turned. Oh, yeah, here we go. That's why my speakers were turned off 21 00:02:48.390 --> 00:02:50.450 Evan Corrigan: Now I can hear you. 22 00:02:51.270 --> 00:02:56.470 Evan Corrigan: Is he fixed? Oh, there's Elizabeth. Oh, and there's Sima. Okay. Now, who wants to be host? 23 00:02:57.390 --> 00:02:59.509 jim murez: Robert, Are you going to be host, or Evan, are you? 24 00:02:59.580 --> 00:03:00.850 Evan Corrigan: whatever? 25 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:03.879 jim murez: Well, what, Evan? Why, Don't, I make you co-host 26 00:03:04.540 --> 00:03:07.909 jim murez: since it's Roberts committee. 27 00:03:09.760 --> 00:03:11.640 jim murez: and 28 00:03:12.530 --> 00:03:16.840 jim murez: let me make screen sharing there's a couple of other things we have to do here. 29 00:03:18.690 --> 00:03:24.020 jim murez: we've had a request to put captioning on, so I just turned it on show captions. 30 00:03:25.820 --> 00:03:28.829 jim murez: And what was the other thing? 31 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:35.449 robertthibodeau: Sure, hey? You can hear us now, Jim. Yeah, I can hear you. My speaker was turned off. 32 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:46.590 robertthibodeau: It's always the simplest things, my friends, you know you don't look for those things anyways, so i'm going to make. I'm not running bad, because I forgot to put the gas cap back on, you know. 33 00:03:46.680 --> 00:04:01.040 jim murez: so I turned on. Just so, you know, Robert. From now on we're supposed to be using captioning for people of hearing impairments or something. I can see it on top. Yep. So it's now on. You can turn it off personally, but it needs to be on for the meeting. 34 00:04:01.640 --> 00:04:06.830 robertthibodeau: It's not bothering me. And Allison, somebody promoted Allison Was that you, Kevin? 35 00:04:07.010 --> 00:04:15.339 jim murez: I did. Okay, so i'm. Robert, i'm, I'm. I'm now going to make you host. And then I will just be a participant. 36 00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:27.789 robertthibodeau: I've got I don't know if you're planning on staying on this one, or if you're going to jet off. I have a request for your knowledge. If you are going to stay on or if you're going to jet off that, we can get some information from you. 37 00:04:28.180 --> 00:04:32.529 jim murez: Why, don't you go ahead and ask? Because I was gonna go cook dinner. 38 00:04:32.620 --> 00:04:39.040 robertthibodeau: That's what city I figured that might be coming for our agenda. Item 39 00:04:39.630 --> 00:04:41.230 robertthibodeau: number 40 00:04:42.650 --> 00:04:49.499 robertthibodeau: a new business updates on various Venice transportation projects. 41 00:04:49.890 --> 00:04:54.030 robertthibodeau: The third one of the projects that was being 42 00:04:55.160 --> 00:05:00.430 robertthibodeau: requested money from at the sort of the last week of Bonnin's regime 43 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:04.670 robertthibodeau: was something called the link was 44 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:17.279 robertthibodeau: It's not. It's not on the thing, but I think it had to do with the bridge. The Lincoln Bridge, the Lincoln Bridge over Bologna Creek. 45 00:05:18.310 --> 00:05:20.740 robertthibodeau: Got it? Got it? Got it? Got it? Okay? 46 00:05:20.820 --> 00:05:25.240 robertthibodeau: So I guess it would really be Item number 8. Could you give us some background on that? 47 00:05:25.590 --> 00:05:27.659 jim murez: Well, it's a caltrans project. 48 00:05:28.510 --> 00:05:35.099 robertthibodeau: So you don't think that that money that he was asking for was in regards to that. It wasn't a lot of money. It was a couple of 1 million. 49 00:05:35.660 --> 00:05:42.080 jim murez: Well, to build a bridge is a you know it's a $2030,000,000 project. It's a big project. 50 00:05:42.180 --> 00:06:01.960 jim murez: but the bigger issue is, what's it going to? Ha! What is the impact of the traffic going to be when they extend the 11 lanes that are now at Jefferson and Lincoln do to the bottleneck at Washington and Lincoln? How are we going to address that? How are we going to get people out of their cars? 51 00:06:01.970 --> 00:06:05.489 jim murez: And what can Venice try to get 52 00:06:05.950 --> 00:06:08.950 jim murez: Because we clearly are the bottleneck. In other words. 53 00:06:09.320 --> 00:06:12.759 robertthibodeau: we're going to be the ones that are impacted. Not, for in a delay 54 00:06:12.860 --> 00:06:16.110 jim murez: not play a best not Westminster. 55 00:06:16.790 --> 00:06:25.699 jim murez: in the city of Los Angeles. Venice is going to be the ones because we've got the smallest road. We've only got 2, maybe 3 lanes all the way from Washington to Santa Monica. 56 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:33.789 jim murez: and so it's all going to bottle up and and until everything goes from 11 down to 7 lines it's going to be us. 57 00:06:33.820 --> 00:06:37.799 jim murez: So the question is, what kind of traffic mitigation 58 00:06:38.630 --> 00:06:44.139 jim murez: things can we ask for of Caltrans to be able to get their plan approved? 59 00:06:44.250 --> 00:06:53.719 jim murez: My thinking several years ago was well, the end of the 90 freeway really needs to be a park and ride, and that needs to contribute to the overall 60 00:06:53.880 --> 00:07:01.299 jim murez: benefit of people getting out of their cars, and then I don't know if you've noticed. But in Santa Monica, now on Lincoln 61 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:02.800 jim murez: they now have 62 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:21.049 jim murez: over the street top of of you know, like led displays that say, you know rideshare, or you know they take the bus, and you can use the express line. So there are things that could be done. For instance, if we could get that that kind of signage park 63 00:07:21.060 --> 00:07:38.010 jim murez: at the Park and ride yet at at the end of the 90 free way you can now take the shuttle bus and get are the the whatever it is. The number 3 bus on Lincoln all the way to Santa Monica in 15 min rather than 35 min 64 00:07:38.020 --> 00:07:47.219 jim murez: signs there. If we had a ways of of of trying to control, you know. Beach parking park here that kind of thing. We don't have that. 65 00:07:47.440 --> 00:07:53.500 jim murez: and I think that we want that. And I think that that's the kind of stuff that because it was a traffic improvement 66 00:07:53.620 --> 00:08:04.620 jim murez: 2 Us. Route, one as well for you, one the Cal Trans. Might be very willing to participate a lot of other 67 00:08:04.670 --> 00:08:11.769 jim murez: of mitigation things, maybe landscaping or other things overhead, power wires and something you need to talk to. 68 00:08:11.880 --> 00:08:17.550 robertthibodeau: Can I back it up 1 one small bit and somebody's got a lot of background noise. I'm not 69 00:08:18.190 --> 00:08:19.680 robertthibodeau: here 70 00:08:20.100 --> 00:08:31.670 robertthibodeau: it so one the so I guess to back it up. do we think that the money that was being requested for transportation improvement projects. 71 00:08:31.980 --> 00:08:36.930 robertthibodeau: I saw 3 things on there, the Rainbow Crosswalk he wanted, like 8 hondo. 72 00:08:37.299 --> 00:08:44.750 robertthibodeau: and then for the rose app stuff which we've supported. He wanted like a 1 million and change. 73 00:08:44.900 --> 00:09:02.630 jim murez: And then there was something Sing the Lincoln Bridge he wanted like 2, maybe 2, and change. He was requesting about 6 total. I think so. There's there's 2 there's 2 bridges there. There's the one that crosses the Bologna Creek, and then there's the one that's the cover Boulevard overpass. 74 00:09:03.190 --> 00:09:06.609 jim murez: and he may be asking for one and not the other. 75 00:09:06.930 --> 00:09:22.510 jim murez: Or he may be, you know. Maybe this is something to do with Caltrans somebody some since Selena's got her hand up. She may know more about it, but but there may be that that you know Cal Trans is saying, Well, you have to put in 10 of this, because 76 00:09:22.770 --> 00:09:26.170 jim murez: you know that's not our road. That's your road. 77 00:09:26.980 --> 00:09:42.940 robertthibodeau: Yeah. Well, I figured you might have to cook dinner. But thanks for that. And I have a feeling evidence, Lena. Both research this a little bit. So we should start the meeting. Let's start the meeting. Yeah, I think that's and i'll be back If you guys are on for more than a half hour. 45 min i'll be back. 78 00:09:43.570 --> 00:09:52.940 jim murez: Yeah, that'd be cool like in an hour. I'm making. I'm now making you host. Okay, and if you have a question but feel free to text me, i'll be here, right on, right on. 79 00:09:53.230 --> 00:09:57.739 jim murez: And, by the way, for those of you that don't know you have an elf in your company 80 00:09:58.160 --> 00:10:03.390 jim murez: a very pretty, a very pretty green elf. Yes, Santa's green helper 81 00:10:03.510 --> 00:10:08.440 jim murez: did an awesome job at the sign lighting. 82 00:10:09.580 --> 00:10:16.860 robertthibodeau: okay, it is now 7 o 9, and we are calling this meeting to order 83 00:10:17.460 --> 00:10:19.239 robertthibodeau: 709. 84 00:10:20.040 --> 00:10:22.770 robertthibodeau: And let's call Roll 85 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:25.930 robertthibodeau: Roberts Here, Evan. 86 00:10:26.470 --> 00:10:27.590 Evan Corrigan: Here. 87 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:30.410 robertthibodeau: Elizabeth 88 00:10:32.350 --> 00:10:34.620 robertthibodeau: allison's here. I know I saw you. 89 00:10:34.730 --> 00:10:36.820 alyson: I'm wave sorry my meal is on here. 90 00:10:36.930 --> 00:10:41.220 robertthibodeau: and Jim is here, so we're gonna 91 00:10:42.250 --> 00:10:43.810 robertthibodeau: check everybody. 92 00:10:44.220 --> 00:10:47.830 robertthibodeau: So we are officially on on 93 00:10:47.860 --> 00:10:50.819 Selena Inouye: Robert. Do you want to account me, too. This is Selena. 94 00:10:51.050 --> 00:10:51.780 Okay. 95 00:10:51.950 --> 00:10:55.500 robertthibodeau: you you were you were, after Allison. Did I not say your name, Selena? 96 00:10:55.620 --> 00:10:58.210 robertthibodeau: Sorry about that. I, 97 00:10:58.660 --> 00:11:02.060 robertthibodeau: my bad. Okay. So we have a 100% 98 00:11:02.170 --> 00:11:03.110 robertthibodeau: here. 99 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:04.530 robertthibodeau: And 100 00:11:04.610 --> 00:11:07.559 Evan Corrigan: I I can take notes on the agenda, Robert 101 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:09.119 robertthibodeau: Cool. Okay. 102 00:11:09.400 --> 00:11:16.450 robertthibodeau: review comment and adopt minutes from prior meeting. I believe 103 00:11:16.590 --> 00:11:21.180 robertthibodeau: Evan so nicely did that, and we posted those 104 00:11:21.650 --> 00:11:24.919 robertthibodeau: problem with them. Speak now. 105 00:11:25.340 --> 00:11:28.850 robertthibodeau: Do I see any objections in notes? So we're going to say Yes. 106 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:33.989 robertthibodeau: So that's 5 0 0, 107 00:11:34.920 --> 00:11:35.920 robertthibodeau: right on. 108 00:11:36.380 --> 00:11:37.470 robertthibodeau: Okay 109 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:39.610 robertthibodeau: public comment. 110 00:11:40.650 --> 00:11:44.009 robertthibodeau: I do see. We have 6 people participating. 111 00:11:45.020 --> 00:11:46.359 Evan Corrigan: Nobody attending. 112 00:11:46.470 --> 00:11:48.700 robertthibodeau: We have nobody attending other than us. 113 00:11:49.370 --> 00:11:50.700 robertthibodeau: Okay. 114 00:11:51.170 --> 00:11:54.090 robertthibodeau: there's nothing controversial on this one, right? 115 00:11:54.260 --> 00:11:57.400 robertthibodeau: We burned him out after the last meeting. 116 00:11:57.550 --> 00:11:59.909 robertthibodeau: so we're gonna say nobody here. 117 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:03.210 robertthibodeau: or if you are here. You gotta raise your hand real quick 118 00:12:04.710 --> 00:12:06.460 robertthibodeau: old business. 119 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:09.060 robertthibodeau: Blah blah blah blah 120 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:13.230 robertthibodeau: community plan. We're going to do the community to plan over the holidays when we're going to do that. 121 00:12:14.590 --> 00:12:18.249 robertthibodeau: Any updates people want to make on the community plan 122 00:12:19.140 --> 00:12:23.680 robertthibodeau: comments on the Venice Boulevard mobility, improvement plan. 123 00:12:24.760 --> 00:12:31.009 robertthibodeau: I see it your hand up. Evan, do you want to? I can't. I don't know how to lower it? 124 00:12:31.400 --> 00:12:32.240 Evan Corrigan: Sorry 125 00:12:33.920 --> 00:12:35.120 I can. 126 00:12:38.060 --> 00:12:39.190 robertthibodeau: Okay. 127 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:40.739 robertthibodeau: You just do it yourself. 128 00:12:41.710 --> 00:12:42.800 robertthibodeau: Selena. 129 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:44.220 robertthibodeau: You see your hand up 130 00:12:44.260 --> 00:12:59.770 Selena Inouye: so today on Venice boulevard between Inglewood and I think Santel L. A. D ot Slash streets. La was out removing Lane lines on the south side of Venice Boulevard. 131 00:13:00.560 --> 00:13:06.289 robertthibodeau: Have they been doing that for a few days now, because I drove down Venice, and I saw there was there was traffic 132 00:13:06.350 --> 00:13:13.629 robertthibodeau: in that it general national area, where it was down a lane or 2. They were doing something. It looked more like sewer improvements to me, but 133 00:13:13.810 --> 00:13:25.670 Selena Inouye: it was definitely something going on. 134 00:13:25.750 --> 00:13:34.290 Selena Inouye: I did not travel on Venice Boulevard, so I don't know how far, actually that you did it. But they're starting the work in CD 11, 135 00:13:34.340 --> 00:13:36.320 Evan Corrigan: I can actually tell you. 136 00:13:36.520 --> 00:13:41.990 Evan Corrigan: la! Do you know me last week with their update? Maybe I just get that out of the way. 137 00:13:42.900 --> 00:13:45.239 Evan Corrigan: so they're doing 138 00:13:45.280 --> 00:13:54.860 Evan Corrigan: starting the installation Inglewood quarter followed by resurfacing on sepulva to motor in mid december. 139 00:13:55.280 --> 00:14:06.660 Evan Corrigan: It's gonna take 3 months to complete and then once implementation is well on its way to the phase One they're gonna reach back out to us 140 00:14:06.830 --> 00:14:08.740 Evan Corrigan: to the 141 00:14:09.010 --> 00:14:10.400 Evan Corrigan: I guess. 142 00:14:10.490 --> 00:14:14.529 Evan Corrigan: Paul Marvista, Nc. To talk about the next phase. 143 00:14:15.670 --> 00:14:21.150 Evan Corrigan: so maybe you know, Sometime, early next year we'll we'll hear back from them for the Venice portion. 144 00:14:22.430 --> 00:14:23.330 robertthibodeau: Right? 145 00:14:24.140 --> 00:14:26.100 robertthibodeau: Okay, that's a good update. 146 00:14:28.910 --> 00:14:32.640 robertthibodeau: I spoke with 147 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:37.689 robertthibodeau: The 2 people who showed interest in this one is 148 00:14:38.590 --> 00:14:40.739 robertthibodeau: okay. Why do I always forget her name? 149 00:14:42.680 --> 00:14:43.750 robertthibodeau: There we go. 150 00:14:43.790 --> 00:14:49.669 robertthibodeau: Erica. I spoke with Erica, and I spoke with Kalani because they both showed up at our meeting before to discuss this 151 00:14:51.860 --> 00:14:53.490 robertthibodeau: and 152 00:14:54.510 --> 00:14:56.129 robertthibodeau: you know for what it's worth. 153 00:14:57.250 --> 00:14:59.490 robertthibodeau: They're not into the 154 00:14:59.710 --> 00:15:04.540 robertthibodeau: the project so much but I think we have had a bit of support. 155 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:05.410 robertthibodeau: for 156 00:15:06.010 --> 00:15:07.739 robertthibodeau: parts of it are portions of it. 157 00:15:08.090 --> 00:15:09.110 robertthibodeau: Maybe 158 00:15:10.270 --> 00:15:13.370 robertthibodeau: at the next meeting we want to come up with our own 159 00:15:16.230 --> 00:15:18.370 robertthibodeau: our own suggestions. 160 00:15:20.580 --> 00:15:23.619 robertthibodeau: I'm not ready for it right now, unless somebody else's. But 161 00:15:24.800 --> 00:15:29.570 robertthibodeau: you're gonna take that on. You want to design a you, Allison. You want to design Venice Boulevard. 162 00:15:31.590 --> 00:15:32.899 robertthibodeau: Why not right? 163 00:15:36.100 --> 00:15:46.230 alyson: You're muted so we can't hear you. But whatever you're saying, a lot of staff I was gonna say my part is sort of a swamp right now, so we could do something aquatically themed in our region. 164 00:15:46.880 --> 00:15:56.670 robertthibodeau: Do you live right off of it? Right? You live right off of it down by the parking lot. 165 00:15:57.300 --> 00:16:00.159 robertthibodeau: Yeah, anyways, I'm: i'm a 166 00:16:01.030 --> 00:16:04.550 robertthibodeau: 2 blocks from. But okay, anyways. 167 00:16:05.500 --> 00:16:15.839 robertthibodeau: yeah, let's let's everybody think about it between now and next meeting. So we're ready when Dot comes to us. We've got specific suggestions like, you know. 168 00:16:16.530 --> 00:16:29.459 robertthibodeau: we like this. We don't like that, you know. Maybe we could do it this way. this seems to be working. That's not so cool, you know. Whatever let's let's come up with a handful of suggestions between the 5 of us. 169 00:16:32.490 --> 00:16:34.649 I don't know if anybody has 170 00:16:34.680 --> 00:16:44.629 Evan Corrigan: ideas, but like, if they're gonna go it all the way to the beach between Lincoln and Avid K. It's pretty obvious, like there's already a big buffered bike lane. 171 00:16:44.910 --> 00:16:47.889 Evan Corrigan: but what are they gonna do after 172 00:16:48.420 --> 00:16:51.739 Evan Corrigan: after Avid Kennedy? Where then a splits off. 173 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:58.140 robertthibodeau: You know. I don't really know how they're gonna. I mean Santa Monica seems to have handled that on streets. 174 00:16:58.500 --> 00:17:12.250 robertthibodeau: You know where they've got their bright, lovely, bright green bike passes. They just have a much smaller bike path. You know it's the when they have less space. The plan is just less ambitious in terms of the amount of space dedicated for each thing. 175 00:17:12.339 --> 00:17:14.940 robertthibodeau: and you can see examples of that like 176 00:17:16.619 --> 00:17:23.989 robertthibodeau: on. Oh, whatever you want to call it Ocean or Pacific, depending where you're looking at it that actually has bike lanes on it down by the pier. 177 00:17:24.140 --> 00:17:27.290 robertthibodeau: but that by or by a cha cha chicken 178 00:17:27.530 --> 00:17:42.400 robertthibodeau: and You'll see it actually like oh, it goes from like a 6 foot wide, bike lane, and now it's a 3 foot wide Bike lane, and you gotta be careful when you're using it, I mean. But it's not because they want to rip people off. It's just because the streak gets very narrow at that point. 179 00:17:42.750 --> 00:17:43.939 robertthibodeau: and 180 00:17:44.870 --> 00:17:48.270 robertthibodeau: I imagine that something like that will have to happen is the street 181 00:17:48.810 --> 00:17:52.299 robertthibodeau: closes down, I mean. Clearly I got, I doubt, though. 182 00:17:53.180 --> 00:18:02.109 robertthibodeau: Take away Lane between and and the beach down to one lane that'd be tough summer. 183 00:18:02.230 --> 00:18:03.090 robertthibodeau: Yeah. 184 00:18:03.140 --> 00:18:13.359 robertthibodeau: I could see back in traffic up to Venice High with that plan. But you never know. And also we'll have a different Council person in office, too. So you know, we should talk to her, too. 185 00:18:14.390 --> 00:18:15.180 Evan Corrigan: Yeah. 186 00:18:15.470 --> 00:18:18.579 robertthibodeau: is that it? On the number 5, 187 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:22.670 robertthibodeau: The mobility improvements update. Okay. 188 00:18:23.430 --> 00:18:38.109 Evan Corrigan: Go ahead. The the traffic showing thing. Daniel's. He has his flyer. He's gonna work on getting some signatures, you know, community feedback. And then hopefully, maybe we'll talk about it at the December Bnc. Meeting. 189 00:18:38.120 --> 00:18:43.619 robertthibodeau: I haven't helped them as much as I thought i'd be helping him. I'll i'll reach out to and see if he just needs help. 190 00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:50.310 Evan Corrigan: He's here. but yeah, he can raise that. He wants to say anything, I think. Okay? 191 00:18:50.970 --> 00:18:54.579 robertthibodeau: yeah. I saw those emails going around 192 00:18:55.090 --> 00:18:57.010 robertthibodeau: from from. 193 00:18:57.810 --> 00:18:59.430 robertthibodeau: So we're up to 7. 194 00:19:01.810 --> 00:19:08.110 Evan Corrigan: Yeah. So this is just real quick, because, Selena, I think you asked last time what was happening is they can fast forward 195 00:19:08.380 --> 00:19:10.849 Evan Corrigan: so Eric Bruin said. 196 00:19:11.040 --> 00:19:14.080 Evan Corrigan: You know it's just Cal cal trans managed now 197 00:19:14.290 --> 00:19:19.660 Evan Corrigan: their construction timeline. So it ranges from 2,023 to 2,025. 198 00:19:19.750 --> 00:19:23.890 Evan Corrigan: That's because their scope goes all the way from Santa Monica. 199 00:19:24.050 --> 00:19:26.859 Evan Corrigan: all the way through the South Bay cities. 200 00:19:27.300 --> 00:19:29.890 Evan Corrigan: So I guess we just don't know yet. 201 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:32.210 Evan Corrigan: or they don't know yet when they'll 202 00:19:32.450 --> 00:19:33.980 Evan Corrigan: to the Venice section. 203 00:19:34.490 --> 00:19:38.220 robertthibodeau: we do have Daniel Santa. So 204 00:19:38.540 --> 00:19:39.500 robertthibodeau: should we 205 00:19:39.950 --> 00:19:54.029 robertthibodeau: back this up to or let Daniel speak, because I think he was probably wanted to say something on the advocacy stuff and give us an update. I i'm sorry we didn't see that you were here, Daniel. I didn't see it until now. 206 00:19:55.340 --> 00:20:09.159 Daniel: Hi, no problem. Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Sorry. Yeah, yeah, My signals bad. yeah, Thank you. I just. I've been working with Evan just a few back and forth emails, and I connected with 207 00:20:09.260 --> 00:20:19.199 Daniel: just a few neighbors off of that at Kenny. Everyone's excited frankly. And just what Evans, I don't know what Evans already said. I was a little late. 208 00:20:19.220 --> 00:20:20.360 Daniel: but 209 00:20:20.590 --> 00:20:36.709 Daniel: I think that a combination of the online petition, and in person will generate a lot of support, at least like signatures. I talking to a Teresa Conro she has like over. She's like a pretty serious community organizer, and I've been working with her. 210 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:49.949 Daniel: and she was saying that it's probably good nice already, wrote this to Evan that it's just good if we keep it general at first, like in terms of the support. it, and not specify solutions already 211 00:20:50.040 --> 00:20:50.870 Daniel: like. 212 00:20:50.950 --> 00:20:52.219 Daniel: so that we don't 213 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:54.599 Daniel: generate resistance the way people. 214 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:55.600 Daniel: you know. 215 00:20:55.740 --> 00:21:11.899 Daniel: already expressed for Venice Boulevard and the Mar. This the issues, you know. So just basically going out there saying, hey, we think this is a problem. What do you think? And getting getting the signatures like based on that? Also, that was kind of over our. 216 00:21:11.910 --> 00:21:19.000 Evan Corrigan: I think we can just like converse over email, like, if you have another picture you want to use or change of copy, just 217 00:21:19.060 --> 00:21:21.970 Evan Corrigan: yeah, Happy to do it. 218 00:21:21.980 --> 00:21:43.690 robertthibodeau: And if you need door, Daniel, if you need like. Just door walking to hand out something or something like that. I'm: I live right around the corner. I mean, I'm on. I'm basically on the corner of Bicato. And I have a kenny. So yeah, yeah, great to meet you. You've already got my email just ping me with an email. I'll give you my phone number and we can. Okay, Great sounds good. Thank you. 219 00:21:44.930 --> 00:21:46.660 robertthibodeau: Anything else. 220 00:21:47.780 --> 00:21:49.890 Daniel: Not for me. I appreciate it. Thank you. 221 00:21:49.950 --> 00:21:56.700 robertthibodeau: Okay? i'm gonna lower your oh, you already did it? Okay, Not the lower your hands. 222 00:21:57.010 --> 00:22:06.039 Evan Corrigan: Okay. So then back to you. Sorry, Evan, I interrupted. You, but I saw so I don't know that's all I had. So you know about the 223 00:22:06.320 --> 00:22:16.149 Evan Corrigan: the Lincoln fast forward the Rose Avenue Project. Obviously they just received a 1.6 million in funding, and they're outsourcing their engineering plans now, so 224 00:22:16.330 --> 00:22:21.759 Evan Corrigan: that is underway. And then Venice Boulevard. We just talked about to be reaching out 225 00:22:22.090 --> 00:22:25.090 Evan Corrigan: earliest next year back to us. 226 00:22:25.190 --> 00:22:26.170 robertthibodeau: Gotcha. 227 00:22:26.650 --> 00:22:29.229 Selena Inouye: Just one comment on that. 228 00:22:29.340 --> 00:22:37.370 Selena Inouye: The city council, on Wednesday is going to be hearing another motion with regards to streets where 229 00:22:37.510 --> 00:22:42.520 Selena Inouye: parking is used as a travel lane during peak hours. 230 00:22:42.690 --> 00:22:44.079 Selena Inouye: And 231 00:22:44.560 --> 00:22:49.120 Selena Inouye: there's a proposal being made by a community group that 232 00:22:49.200 --> 00:23:00.259 Selena Inouye: instead of allowing parking in those lanes and travel in those lanes that the parking be removed and those lanes turned into bus only lanes. 233 00:23:00.310 --> 00:23:18.990 Selena Inouye: and I bring that up because with the Lincoln fast forward project, what the final decision was on that project was was to create that kind of lane on Lincoln Boulevard, between Sant, the Santa Monica border, and Dennis Boulevard, to make it a peak hour Bus Lane 234 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:29.809 Selena Inouye: remove the parking, and and on either side of the street, depending on what time of the day it is. and i'm just a little bit concerned that that plan. If that 235 00:23:30.120 --> 00:23:36.359 Selena Inouye: council motion passes would then turn the Lincoln fast forward project into 236 00:23:36.390 --> 00:23:45.330 Selena Inouye: dedicated Bus Lane on both sides of the street, which is not what was discussed during the outreach portion. 237 00:23:45.460 --> 00:23:53.469 Evan Corrigan: I thought the plan the community plan was to do exactly what they're going to do on Lincoln 238 00:23:53.660 --> 00:23:56.989 Evan Corrigan: Boulevard. So, instead of using those as car lanes 239 00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:00.829 Evan Corrigan: in Russia or the Us. Is bus only events. 240 00:24:01.590 --> 00:24:04.700 Selena Inouye: right? But this new motion says that 241 00:24:04.820 --> 00:24:12.129 Selena Inouye: peak hour bus they're basically targeting lanes that are used during peak hours for car traffic. 242 00:24:12.310 --> 00:24:21.839 Selena Inouye: So at the moment they're talking about on Lincoln Boulevard they're talking about turning the parking into a peak hour Bus Lane on either side. 243 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:37.190 Selena Inouye: that I'm. Just concerned about this motion coming up in council, where it looks at lanes that are converted during peak hours into different uses to eliminate that, and turn it instead into a 20 four-seven Bus lane 244 00:24:37.600 --> 00:24:42.009 Selena Inouye: that's the proposal that's coming. It'll be heard by the City Council on Wednesday 245 00:24:44.230 --> 00:24:50.079 robertthibodeau: I I track most of that. The difference. 246 00:24:50.280 --> 00:24:54.639 robertthibodeau: So Lincoln Boulevard Peak hours. No parking 247 00:24:55.150 --> 00:24:58.900 robertthibodeau: in one direction and bus only lay 248 00:24:59.450 --> 00:25:11.059 robertthibodeau: this other streets you're talking about? Was it that they would take away a car, travel lane at peak hours and turn it into a bus? What what's the what's so let's pick a street. 249 00:25:11.250 --> 00:25:30.239 Selena Inouye: How about Olympic Boulevard in West del a. So on the Olympic and West delay the 2 out the 2 right most lanes during the day are parking, but during peak hours the parking is removed, so that it turns that lane into a a driving lane. 250 00:25:30.260 --> 00:25:40.590 Selena Inouye: so the the motion that's coming up to city Council on Wednesday. Is that for streets like that that are using lanes like that? 251 00:25:40.990 --> 00:25:46.580 Selena Inouye: rather than allow for that use, they they would convert that lane 252 00:25:46.650 --> 00:25:48.499 Selena Inouye: which is parking 253 00:25:48.810 --> 00:25:54.419 Selena Inouye: off peak, travel on peak into a 20 four-seven bus line. 254 00:25:54.840 --> 00:25:58.610 Selena Inouye: So my my concern is how that would impact 255 00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:08.079 Selena Inouye: the Lincoln fast Forward project, because right now that that right most lane is parking. But they're changing the use and the 256 00:26:08.620 --> 00:26:27.280 Selena Inouye: the rationale that i'm hearing is that they think that it's dangerous to have a mixed use. Lane like that. I think that they're saying the danger comes in in that when you convert a parking lane to another use during peak hours. If people don't move their cars that create some kind of danger. 257 00:26:27.290 --> 00:26:36.340 Selena Inouye: And so the proposal on the table is to just do away with those mixed use lanes and turn them into 258 00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:43.619 Evan Corrigan: 24, 7 bus lines. 259 00:26:43.980 --> 00:26:51.350 Evan Corrigan: The Peak. Our traffic lanes are not a good use of public space, we should use them as bus lands during peak hours. 260 00:26:52.770 --> 00:27:02.590 Selena Inouye: So yeah, so that's all that I've seen. I I and I don't know that the Council files up yet, so I i'm just bringing it up as this might be an issue that might impact 261 00:27:02.750 --> 00:27:05.939 Selena Inouye: the link and fast forward project depending on how this 262 00:27:05.970 --> 00:27:08.409 is discussed and passed. That's all. 263 00:27:08.570 --> 00:27:15.890 robertthibodeau: Okay, so let's keep our eyes out for when it becomes a council motion and we'll file a cis if we need to. I mean. 264 00:27:16.090 --> 00:27:21.909 robertthibodeau: I can think of streets like La Brea that's definitely peak hour. 265 00:27:22.190 --> 00:27:26.480 robertthibodeau: drive only i'm trying to think of other ones 266 00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:28.899 Evan Corrigan: we'll share. 267 00:27:29.380 --> 00:27:30.460 robertthibodeau: Well, sure. 268 00:27:30.660 --> 00:27:31.460 robertthibodeau: right? 269 00:27:31.790 --> 00:27:33.110 robertthibodeau: Right? 270 00:27:35.540 --> 00:27:44.469 robertthibodeau: Okay. But thanks for that. And yeah, we should check the language specific, because what? Evan saying he's reading is slightly different from 271 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:46.590 robertthibodeau: from 272 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:49.790 Evan Corrigan: Selena. When do they release the agenda? 273 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:55.269 Selena Inouye: I I think it has the same 274 00:27:55.410 --> 00:27:57.989 Selena Inouye: requirements as 275 00:27:58.300 --> 00:28:10.839 Selena Inouye: Our meetings do 72 h in advance, but they could make it a special meeting which would only require 24 h in advance. So I haven't seen the agenda for the City Council parking 276 00:28:11.130 --> 00:28:15.140 Selena Inouye: a meeting yet. That's supposed to be Wednesday. 277 00:28:15.670 --> 00:28:20.660 Evan Corrigan: That'd be a crazy change. I mean that'd be ridiculous. A huge 278 00:28:21.820 --> 00:28:24.860 robertthibodeau: well for what's what, Selen, it's saying to that? It's 279 00:28:24.970 --> 00:28:26.570 robertthibodeau: 24, 7, 280 00:28:26.910 --> 00:28:37.480 robertthibodeau: I mean. You have no business parking anymore now on a public street which would be kind of tough for business 281 00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:41.149 Evan Corrigan: change very easily. I don't know. 282 00:28:43.530 --> 00:28:49.120 Evan Corrigan: Should we go skip to your flower item, so we can 283 00:28:49.750 --> 00:28:50.960 Evan Corrigan: wait for Jim. 284 00:28:52.100 --> 00:28:53.090 robertthibodeau: Yeah. 285 00:28:53.630 --> 00:28:59.939 robertthibodeau: So we're gonna skip to Number 9. I see Simons on here, Simon. I think you're a flower guy. 286 00:29:01.810 --> 00:29:06.860 robertthibodeau: I can. You give me 1 s here because i'm gonna send 287 00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:12.840 robertthibodeau: a couple of pictures through, he says. 288 00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:48.579 robertthibodeau: Now we're going to go to mail 289 00:29:50.930 --> 00:29:52.410 going. 290 00:29:55.050 --> 00:29:56.230 Let me see. 291 00:29:57.780 --> 00:30:01.160 robertthibodeau: Now we're gonna try and get back over to zoom in zoom 292 00:30:02.670 --> 00:30:03.720 here. 293 00:30:04.660 --> 00:30:09.100 robertthibodeau: no, we're gonna try and share screen. 294 00:30:10.600 --> 00:30:12.709 We're going to see that 295 00:30:14.290 --> 00:30:15.300 share. 296 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:17.639 robertthibodeau: Hey? It Wasn't too bad. 297 00:30:18.850 --> 00:30:20.610 robertthibodeau: Can you guys see my screen. 298 00:30:22.380 --> 00:30:25.720 robertthibodeau: So this was prompted by 299 00:30:26.220 --> 00:30:36.320 robertthibodeau: I don't know if well, I know Elizabeth is at the Vnc. Meeting, so the rest of you I don't know if you've you've been there. There's definitely the last 2 or 3 meetings the folks from Flower App. 300 00:30:36.660 --> 00:30:38.200 robertthibodeau: I've been 301 00:30:38.430 --> 00:30:43.369 robertthibodeau: coming to the meetings and trying to raise 302 00:30:43.490 --> 00:30:44.890 robertthibodeau: attention 303 00:30:45.080 --> 00:30:55.410 robertthibodeau: for a flight. That's really as in you know, My, I I know this area because my business is a kind of across the street a couple of blocks down. So I see this all the time. 304 00:30:55.700 --> 00:30:59.079 robertthibodeau: and you guys probably do, too. And 305 00:30:59.950 --> 00:31:10.659 robertthibodeau: the situation's been ongoing. It used to be on Link in more, and then sort of bent around the corner, and then they kind of fenced off the property on Lincoln. 306 00:31:10.710 --> 00:31:17.780 robertthibodeau: It seemed to move people all off Lincoln, and then they moved down Flower more into the residential area in front of the parking lot there. 307 00:31:18.230 --> 00:31:19.600 robertthibodeau: And 308 00:31:21.250 --> 00:31:26.980 robertthibodeau: you know my heart goes out to them, and it seems like they've been getting some 309 00:31:27.450 --> 00:31:33.649 robertthibodeau: attention, but maybe not a whole lot. I'm not on. I don't have my finger on the pulse of what's going on over there. 310 00:31:34.310 --> 00:31:42.319 robertthibodeau: But one thing I noticed is that the sidewalks are for sure, unpassable. And I was thinking. 311 00:31:42.410 --> 00:31:52.169 robertthibodeau: you know. Maybe we could help them through parking transportation. I don't really know. I know you. As we all know, we don't have the power to clear the stuff, but we certainly could make a motion 312 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:54.910 robertthibodeau: in in support of clearing. 313 00:31:55.230 --> 00:31:58.390 robertthibodeau: clearing at least an 88 path through here, which 314 00:31:58.830 --> 00:32:04.839 robertthibodeau: this extends for probably, you know, 50 yards or so. 315 00:32:06.670 --> 00:32:08.220 robertthibodeau: And 316 00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:17.040 robertthibodeau: anyway, that's that's my story. I could I have a couple of more pictures if you guys want to see. I think this kind of gets the idea across. 317 00:32:19.730 --> 00:32:22.139 robertthibodeau: and I have not 318 00:32:23.040 --> 00:32:28.660 robertthibodeau: put a motion together, but I think it would be pretty easy. Something about 319 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:35.540 robertthibodeau: you know, requesting immediate action from the Police Slash Service providers 320 00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:40.310 robertthibodeau: to clear the the public sidewalk. 321 00:32:42.330 --> 00:32:46.739 robertthibodeau: This situation seems very similar to the situation that we had at 322 00:32:47.500 --> 00:32:48.840 robertthibodeau: at 323 00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.669 robertthibodeau: over by air one for a while. Remember that one 324 00:32:53.050 --> 00:32:53.970 robertthibodeau: so. 325 00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:58.410 robertthibodeau: and it. This has been ongoing, and I think the people on the street would be very patient. So, anyway. 326 00:33:02.130 --> 00:33:14.160 robertthibodeau: I guess we should probably, if we're going, you know. Do we? Does anybody else want to have any background, and then open this up to public comment? Because I suspect Simon will be saying something. 327 00:33:14.650 --> 00:33:17.669 robertthibodeau: maybe if i's who I think it is. 328 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:24.800 robertthibodeau: do we craft a motion first second to motion, then open it up to public comment, then open it up to 329 00:33:25.030 --> 00:33:26.490 robertthibodeau: council comment right? 330 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.089 robertthibodeau: So i'm going to say 331 00:33:31.460 --> 00:33:33.940 robertthibodeau: so. Brought it up 332 00:33:36.030 --> 00:33:37.530 robertthibodeau: motion 333 00:33:39.940 --> 00:33:41.810 robertthibodeau: to request 334 00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:47.620 robertthibodeau: immediate 335 00:33:50.460 --> 00:33:52.269 robertthibodeau: and ongoing 336 00:33:59.820 --> 00:34:01.170 robertthibodeau: clearance 337 00:34:02.620 --> 00:34:03.600 robertthibodeau: of 338 00:34:04.620 --> 00:34:05.580 robertthibodeau: the 339 00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:08.399 robertthibodeau: sidewalks 340 00:34:09.790 --> 00:34:11.489 robertthibodeau: on flower. 341 00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:14.730 robertthibodeau: Your link in 342 00:34:22.070 --> 00:34:24.160 robertthibodeau: for the purposes of 343 00:34:25.260 --> 00:34:27.089 robertthibodeau: 88 compliance. 344 00:34:32.739 --> 00:34:34.489 robertthibodeau: and then 345 00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:37.489 robertthibodeau: CC. Or whatever 346 00:34:37.949 --> 00:34:39.449 robertthibodeau: D. Ot 347 00:34:39.510 --> 00:34:41.040 robertthibodeau: Council. 348 00:34:43.460 --> 00:34:44.609 robertthibodeau: Police 349 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:48.580 robertthibodeau: mayor. 350 00:34:52.940 --> 00:34:56.100 robertthibodeau: anybody else you guys can think of. We'll put on that list. 351 00:34:56.870 --> 00:34:58.569 robertthibodeau: do we have a second 352 00:34:59.270 --> 00:34:59.950 Bye. 353 00:35:00.250 --> 00:35:01.200 Elizabeth C.: I'll second. 354 00:35:01.450 --> 00:35:02.279 Okay. 355 00:35:02.370 --> 00:35:09.660 robertthibodeau: So I saw Allison Santa, and I saw those. If it's done, either one. 356 00:35:11.210 --> 00:35:13.839 robertthibodeau: Okay, let's open it up to public comment. 357 00:35:16.550 --> 00:35:20.760 robertthibodeau: Is anyone on the public that being Daniel and Simon want to speak on this 358 00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:35.860 robertthibodeau: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Okay. Seeing no public comment on this. let's open it up to committee comment. 359 00:35:42.060 --> 00:35:44.620 Elizabeth C.: Oh, go go for it, Elizabeth. 360 00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:48.659 Elizabeth C.: because I politely raise my hands. Time 361 00:35:48.740 --> 00:35:51.609 Elizabeth C.: I i'm happy to help spearhead 362 00:35:52.270 --> 00:35:57.599 Elizabeth C.: part of this with with help from someone else, because I did a lot of work on Centennial. So 363 00:35:57.740 --> 00:35:58.979 Elizabeth C.: kind of no. 364 00:35:59.120 --> 00:36:02.179 Elizabeth C.: Some of the players in the game 365 00:36:02.670 --> 00:36:04.750 Elizabeth C.: can be called, although 366 00:36:04.770 --> 00:36:11.379 Elizabeth C.: we are in a transition period, and we need to be aware of that, because District 11 is completely turning over. 367 00:36:11.580 --> 00:36:12.979 Elizabeth C.: and 368 00:36:13.180 --> 00:36:14.290 Elizabeth C.: most of the 369 00:36:14.630 --> 00:36:19.889 Elizabeth C.: soon to be vacancies. Haven't yet been hired and filled. So there is going to be this 370 00:36:20.120 --> 00:36:23.580 Elizabeth C.: little gap in time that we're gonna struggle to 371 00:36:23.870 --> 00:36:25.459 Elizabeth C.: have the right person to call 372 00:36:26.600 --> 00:36:33.569 alyson: Elizabeth. I'd love to hear who were some of the entities that you guys worked with for Centennial Park. I think this is a universal 373 00:36:33.820 --> 00:36:35.769 alyson: request for 374 00:36:36.020 --> 00:36:52.429 alyson: the parts of Venice that have encountered the scale, and I've just kind of I mean, if you have, If you wouldn't mind, i'd love to hear a little bit about what you guys did 375 00:36:52.660 --> 00:36:55.419 Elizabeth C.: emails. So you can all 376 00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:58.460 Elizabeth C.: can all personally email them. 377 00:36:58.530 --> 00:37:02.909 Elizabeth C.: So the head of homeless 378 00:37:03.460 --> 00:37:08.799 Elizabeth C.: outreach, if you want to call it that is Jose Ramirez. 379 00:37:09.600 --> 00:37:12.600 Elizabeth C.: and he's your grandpa and this whole thing. 380 00:37:12.860 --> 00:37:15.919 Elizabeth C.: So your district 11. 381 00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:20.279 Elizabeth C.: So the Council person is strategic, but 382 00:37:20.470 --> 00:37:21.919 Elizabeth C.: not your end. Goal. 383 00:37:22.330 --> 00:37:25.380 Elizabeth C.: It is, everything comes out of the mayor's office on this one. 384 00:37:25.950 --> 00:37:27.000 Elizabeth C.: so 385 00:37:27.540 --> 00:37:30.320 Elizabeth C.: you know, without going too much more into 386 00:37:30.720 --> 00:37:33.099 Elizabeth C.: the names. 387 00:37:33.260 --> 00:37:39.819 Elizabeth C.: It's a balancing act of not a costing people to who also would love to help you. But don't have the power some days. 388 00:37:40.180 --> 00:37:51.229 Elizabeth C.: because what we have to remember is, we're just a tiny little microcosm and a huge problem. You know, there's so many areas of La, and there's only so many clean up teams available per day. 389 00:37:51.480 --> 00:38:10.210 Elizabeth C.: So this is a juggling act between sanitation because they they're always having to be called ahead of time. And then somebody has to manage that process, because once sanitation is called in. Everything signs have to be posted, but the 390 00:38:10.450 --> 00:38:12.289 Elizabeth C.: homeless people know the rules. 391 00:38:12.420 --> 00:38:16.359 Elizabeth C.: so they'll take timestamps of when things are posted. 392 00:38:16.450 --> 00:38:21.410 Elizabeth C.: We have to be very careful to manage that process and make sure that people arrive 393 00:38:21.810 --> 00:38:24.789 Elizabeth C.: within the timeframe or not before the timeframe is up 394 00:38:25.230 --> 00:38:27.600 Elizabeth C.: is that you know they get their 72 h 395 00:38:27.780 --> 00:38:34.420 Elizabeth C.: depending on what's on the sign, so it it's it's not a small undertaking to get involved, and to say you want to help. 396 00:38:34.550 --> 00:38:39.920 Elizabeth C.: because every day you have to call in and make sure that there is followed through from all the different parties doing the dance. 397 00:38:40.190 --> 00:38:47.999 Elizabeth C.: we were fortunate on Centennial Park also to work with bid, but that means bid and sanitation have to coordinate. 398 00:38:48.350 --> 00:38:58.070 Elizabeth C.: and then you've got Lapd has to be there with sanitation, because that's a hard stop for sanitation. They won't show up unless lapd is there for their own safety. 399 00:38:58.460 --> 00:39:00.799 Elizabeth C.: then there'll be another day 400 00:39:00.820 --> 00:39:10.579 Elizabeth C.: the lapd has to come out to actually supervise the clean up itself, for like to be there on hand for the clean up. So there's a lot of. 401 00:39:10.810 --> 00:39:12.109 Elizabeth C.: There's a lot of 402 00:39:12.160 --> 00:39:21.409 Elizabeth C.: Erez Agmoni people to juggle, and a lot of say cats to her, and there's a lot of excuses for why different parties can't show up all legitimate excuses, but they will 150 403 00:39:21.490 --> 00:39:27.009 Elizabeth C.: impact timeline. So then you start at 0 and you get to do it all over again. 404 00:39:27.730 --> 00:39:29.659 alyson: Where did that fence come from? 405 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:32.750 Evan Corrigan: The construction of the 406 00:39:33.090 --> 00:39:34.669 Evan Corrigan: the building in the corner? 407 00:39:35.670 --> 00:39:37.660 robertthibodeau: Yeah, that's a construction fence. 408 00:39:38.850 --> 00:39:41.330 alyson: It was just repurposed from a neighborhood project. 409 00:39:41.590 --> 00:39:47.820 Elizabeth C.: We talk about Antennial Park or we're talking about. Oh, that thanks. 410 00:39:48.520 --> 00:40:00.979 Selena Inouye: If I can share my screen, there's actually a better Google image of this that I brought up. That shows the entire property. 411 00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:03.610 Selena Inouye: Do you mind if I bring that up? 412 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.810 robertthibodeau: I'm making you Co-host. Right? Now. 413 00:40:06.860 --> 00:40:07.589 Okay. 414 00:40:08.250 --> 00:40:19.709 Elizabeth C.: so you should be able to share your screen. 415 00:40:20.380 --> 00:40:24.510 Elizabeth C.: but that you can't, can't just give all the love to circle. 416 00:40:24.560 --> 00:40:29.849 Elizabeth C.: I have to make sure St. Justice was in there, too. There' be 2 or 3 nonprofits. That 417 00:40:30.160 --> 00:40:31.100 will be 418 00:40:33.700 --> 00:40:34.839 Elizabeth C.: assisting. 419 00:40:35.830 --> 00:40:38.709 alyson: Thanks for the rundown. I appreciate it. 420 00:40:39.370 --> 00:40:48.399 robertthibodeau: You guys have each other's email, too right? I mean, you're all in the same email. So you can. You can do Follow up. 421 00:40:48.470 --> 00:40:55.869 Evan Corrigan: Elizabeth. Are you talking about like an accountant to home type of program. Yeah, there are no homes, so 422 00:40:56.080 --> 00:40:57.939 Elizabeth C.: it's encampments to somewhere. 423 00:40:58.160 --> 00:40:59.760 Elizabeth C.: and then 424 00:41:00.750 --> 00:41:02.429 Elizabeth C.: and then you have to get consent. 425 00:41:03.590 --> 00:41:05.810 Elizabeth C.: So the individuals to give consent 426 00:41:06.190 --> 00:41:07.429 Elizabeth C.: to go somewhere. 427 00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:12.179 Elizabeth C.: You have about a 20% chance that they'll say yes. 428 00:41:12.540 --> 00:41:16.609 Elizabeth C.: So the only way to squeeze them is to have 429 00:41:16.870 --> 00:41:20.359 Elizabeth C.: the presence of sanitation there for a few days. 430 00:41:20.680 --> 00:41:22.820 Elizabeth C.: and then only then, and only then 431 00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:25.970 Elizabeth C.: do they get the hint that okay, this is like 432 00:41:26.620 --> 00:41:28.770 Elizabeth C.: they really mean it moment 433 00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:31.650 Elizabeth C.: because they know that you're bluffing for 434 00:41:31.670 --> 00:41:33.470 Elizabeth C.: most of the months before that. 435 00:41:33.790 --> 00:41:35.369 Elizabeth C.: So they just keep saying No. 436 00:41:35.940 --> 00:41:38.180 Elizabeth C.: and until you can get the 437 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:43.420 Elizabeth C.: city to pay to put the budget forward to have people there for days 438 00:41:44.030 --> 00:41:47.780 Elizabeth C.: cleaning up, giving the hint that they're going to clean up, and that's a big budget. 439 00:41:48.630 --> 00:41:54.300 Elizabeth C.: That's the only way that they finally either say yes to services or they move along. 440 00:41:54.710 --> 00:41:55.490 Elizabeth C.: That's it. 441 00:41:55.600 --> 00:41:58.509 Elizabeth C.: And then you have to have a way to fence the area 442 00:41:59.160 --> 00:42:00.560 Elizabeth C.: or they will come back. 443 00:42:00.850 --> 00:42:01.859 Elizabeth C.: and that's 444 00:42:02.350 --> 00:42:03.669 Elizabeth C.: that's a whole nother 445 00:42:05.240 --> 00:42:07.649 Elizabeth C.: thing for another day, which you could never 446 00:42:07.720 --> 00:42:09.870 Elizabeth C.: get it across in this meeting alone. 447 00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:14.369 Elizabeth C.: But you do it. You do need to have a plan to make sure that 448 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:21.040 Elizabeth C.: there is some work that needs to be done that would like clean up and repair that would require fencing. 449 00:42:23.850 --> 00:42:27.150 Elizabeth C.: There will be clean up and repair after this, probably 450 00:42:28.730 --> 00:42:31.270 Elizabeth C.: at least for a few days, if not a week 451 00:42:31.630 --> 00:42:33.910 Elizabeth C.: or more other, because if it's just 452 00:42:34.190 --> 00:42:38.939 Elizabeth C.: absolutely they just had to clean up here. I'm pretty sure, because I I thought I saw something on next door. 453 00:42:39.670 --> 00:42:52.689 Elizabeth C.: They they did, in fact. and they cleaned it up, and everyone just moves back in. 454 00:42:52.790 --> 00:42:53.589 Elizabeth C.: Yeah. 455 00:42:53.690 --> 00:43:01.299 robertthibodeau: Okay. So we kind of know the issues. I guess my point is that it's public sidewalk, and someone should be able to walk through there. 456 00:43:01.530 --> 00:43:08.299 robertthibodeau: And you know the issues in Centennial Park were a little bit different because they weren't in and 457 00:43:08.720 --> 00:43:16.869 Elizabeth C.: in the middle of the public space, blocking people's. Actually, there was a walk. There was a sidewalk through the middle. That was the only 458 00:43:17.410 --> 00:43:24.629 Elizabeth C.: it was the sidewalk to nowhere. But it was the sidewalk that a lot of runners used. 459 00:43:25.120 --> 00:43:29.510 robertthibodeau: Okay, so let's try and let's try and 460 00:43:29.690 --> 00:43:32.080 robertthibodeau: see what we can do. 461 00:43:32.140 --> 00:43:34.839 robertthibodeau: Evan. You had your patiently had your hand up. 462 00:43:38.570 --> 00:43:41.699 Evan Corrigan: yeah, I mean as of this, this is saying, just 463 00:43:42.990 --> 00:43:47.099 Evan Corrigan: it. It's gonna take a lot of work so like. How do you? Wanna 464 00:43:47.950 --> 00:43:51.970 Evan Corrigan: I I know I've heard the stories from the people who live there, and 465 00:43:52.160 --> 00:43:55.559 Evan Corrigan: I mean you can't walk down flower, and 466 00:43:55.740 --> 00:44:04.130 robertthibodeau: I know the more I know, the more you put the stuff in front of people's faces and just keep recirculating it the more that there's a chance that something will get done. 467 00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:08.369 robertthibodeau: All we have to do is put a motion together. Put it in front of the Vnc. 468 00:44:08.620 --> 00:44:22.419 robertthibodeau: It'll be controversial. what it goes in front of the Vnc. So you're gonna get the people on one side who are saying, You know don't touch them, let them be. And then you're gonna get a number of people on the other side that are gonna 469 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.890 robertthibodeau: kind of see that this is not really tolerable situation. 470 00:44:26.380 --> 00:44:27.769 robertthibodeau: And 471 00:44:28.020 --> 00:44:33.400 robertthibodeau: it'll create noise, and I think it's really about creating noise and 472 00:44:33.530 --> 00:44:35.799 robertthibodeau: so that that's my point is that 473 00:44:35.980 --> 00:44:44.930 robertthibodeau: you know for what these people can put up with there. Hasn't really been a lot of noise made, and maybe it's time to make some, you know. I certainly support them. 474 00:44:45.520 --> 00:45:04.150 Evan Corrigan: That makes sense. I mean, yeah, as it's going to be more complicated than our motion. But you're right. We'll get a discussion started on how to best address. Yeah. The alternative is just to fall silent and just like, look the other way every time you drive by. At least now I feel like, you know. Hey? You know the same thing. Is there one thing which I helped. 475 00:45:04.220 --> 00:45:05.149 robertthibodeau: you know. 476 00:45:05.730 --> 00:45:07.209 robertthibodeau: publicize that. 477 00:45:07.250 --> 00:45:16.919 robertthibodeau: and it is cleaner than it was before? It's still not perfect. You know it really isn't but it was really bad for a while, and 478 00:45:17.020 --> 00:45:20.050 robertthibodeau: and I think the clean ups definitely helped. 479 00:45:20.180 --> 00:45:22.810 robertthibodeau: and I think publicizing it definitely helps 480 00:45:25.340 --> 00:45:31.399 Evan Corrigan: here, too, sometimes on Lincoln. Like you people, I see people walking in the street 481 00:45:31.600 --> 00:45:34.569 Evan Corrigan: because the the sidewalk on linkedin is blocked, too. 482 00:45:34.900 --> 00:45:45.409 robertthibodeau: That Hasn't happened for a while, but for sure for a while. You just couldn't get through there, you know, if for whatever reason they haven't really repopulated that in front of that business for a while 483 00:45:45.530 --> 00:45:49.160 robertthibodeau: there was a fire there recently. 484 00:45:50.270 --> 00:45:56.369 robertthibodeau: but it hasn't, you know. Anyways, yeah, I agree it. It got really gnarly for a while. 485 00:45:57.650 --> 00:45:58.899 robertthibodeau: and Selena. 486 00:46:00.160 --> 00:46:08.370 Selena Inouye: So when I brought this image up I just wanted to ask did you bring you. I don't see your image. I think you have to stop sharing. 487 00:46:09.110 --> 00:46:10.020 Selena Inouye: Oh, it did. 488 00:46:10.290 --> 00:46:13.700 Selena Inouye: Okay, because I I've got it. I still see mine. 489 00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:14.759 I don't see. 490 00:46:15.040 --> 00:46:25.939 robertthibodeau: Robert, if you stop sharing it. And hers. Is that what i'm doing? I'm pogging. It is what we're doing here all right. My problem is this here we go. Stop, share. 491 00:46:26.020 --> 00:46:26.790 Selena Inouye: Okay. 492 00:46:27.720 --> 00:46:30.759 Selena Inouye: Sorry. I thought everybody could see this. 493 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:32.540 Selena Inouye: Can everyone see it now? 494 00:46:32.670 --> 00:46:34.100 robertthibodeau: It almost 495 00:46:34.330 --> 00:46:35.349 robertthibodeau: there you go. 496 00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:36.229 Selena Inouye: Okay. 497 00:46:36.370 --> 00:46:38.360 Selena Inouye: So my question is because 498 00:46:38.660 --> 00:46:49.479 Selena Inouye: we've obviously seen this happen more than once. When a business go is no longer there. The homeless seem to set up their encampments in front of vacant businesses. 499 00:46:49.740 --> 00:46:52.980 Selena Inouye: Do we have a sense of what's going on with this business? 500 00:46:53.240 --> 00:47:00.439 robertthibodeau: This is a very old image. By the way. 501 00:47:00.680 --> 00:47:02.740 Elizabeth C.: Nick wrote an article about it. 502 00:47:03.200 --> 00:47:04.689 Elizabeth C.: this business owner, and 503 00:47:04.970 --> 00:47:07.449 Elizabeth C.: they're trying to remodel the inside and what they're 504 00:47:07.560 --> 00:47:12.640 Elizabeth C.: trying to what they're going through, and the millions have put into the remodel, and they can't access their building. 505 00:47:13.060 --> 00:47:14.250 Hmm. Okay. 506 00:47:14.560 --> 00:47:22.009 Selena Inouye: I i'm wondering. Does the business owner have any recourse in this is situation? 507 00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:27.880 Elizabeth C.: he's. He's been obviously requesting help from the city, and he's been 508 00:47:28.160 --> 00:47:30.639 Elizabeth C.: ignored for the most part. Okay. 509 00:47:31.660 --> 00:47:34.470 Selena Inouye: I'll look for a next article. I haven't seen it. 510 00:47:35.990 --> 00:47:37.540 robertthibodeau: Yeah, I haven't seen that one, either. 511 00:47:38.520 --> 00:47:40.800 Selena Inouye: I'll stop sharing now. 512 00:47:41.120 --> 00:47:42.020 robertthibodeau: Thanks. 513 00:47:42.420 --> 00:47:46.239 robertthibodeau: yeah. The encampments moved off of Lincoln around the corner. 514 00:47:46.450 --> 00:47:53.370 robertthibodeau: So my the and I I have bigger pictures of it. Showing the extent. But i'm going to let that slide. 515 00:47:53.770 --> 00:48:00.969 robertthibodeau: okay. So we have a motion, and we have a second. So let's take a vote. seeing no more hands up. 516 00:48:02.520 --> 00:48:05.959 robertthibodeau: stalina 517 00:48:06.080 --> 00:48:10.490 robertthibodeau: go first with you because I missed you on that last one. 518 00:48:11.530 --> 00:48:12.600 robertthibodeau: Evan. 519 00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:13.779 Yes. 520 00:48:14.120 --> 00:48:21.570 robertthibodeau: Elizabeth Alison and I'm: a: Yes. So that's 5 0. 0. 521 00:48:25.430 --> 00:48:30.960 Elizabeth C.: Does anyone know if this If this neighborhood has created an email campaign? 522 00:48:36.140 --> 00:48:48.210 robertthibodeau: i'll try and put you in touch with people have been coming to the Vnc. Stuff next time we have to be and see me or you'll be at the Bnc meeting, too. You can. You can take down emails. 523 00:48:48.350 --> 00:48:50.150 robertthibodeau: but i'll try and get their names. 524 00:48:50.290 --> 00:48:54.859 robertthibodeau: because there's been a 2 or 3 people who've been pretty both different to the last couple of meetings. 525 00:48:55.460 --> 00:48:56.250 Elizabeth C.: Yeah. 526 00:48:56.470 --> 00:49:02.779 Elizabeth C.: Well, I may not. I wouldn't have the capacity this time around because it turned into almost a full time job last time. 527 00:49:03.300 --> 00:49:10.940 Elizabeth C.: I could at least give them some guidance on the media attack because you really need a media attack. 528 00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:17.549 robertthibodeau: Yeah, yeah, I mean, if we could get Jamie to write an article or something that would help to, or somebody. 529 00:49:17.900 --> 00:49:22.050 Elizabeth C.: I got lots of reporters to write articles. So 530 00:49:23.050 --> 00:49:24.710 robertthibodeau: okay. 531 00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:25.559 do you? 532 00:49:25.690 --> 00:49:28.979 robertthibodeau: We we did. We skip over one. 533 00:49:29.060 --> 00:49:29.850 robertthibodeau: No. 534 00:49:30.980 --> 00:49:35.100 Evan Corrigan: We skipped over the Bologna creeping, waiting for Jim. 535 00:49:36.470 --> 00:49:38.339 Evan Corrigan: which one bridge 536 00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:42.140 robertthibodeau: bridge bridge 537 00:49:42.350 --> 00:49:43.290 robertthibodeau: right 538 00:49:43.930 --> 00:49:47.199 robertthibodeau: bridge impacts the road over on that one. 539 00:49:49.510 --> 00:49:50.870 robertthibodeau: Okay. 540 00:49:53.180 --> 00:49:58.650 robertthibodeau: Well, let's let's talk about the general discussion for him, and i'll text Jim, if he wants to talk about the bridge. 541 00:50:00.660 --> 00:50:07.109 Selena Inouye: actually, I had a couple of things I wanted to add about the bridge if we we want to talk about this now. 542 00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:11.850 Evan Corrigan: Okay, I think you're great to see if Jim was back. 543 00:50:12.170 --> 00:50:13.670 robertthibodeau: I i'm gonna text him. 544 00:50:18.490 --> 00:50:19.120 Okay. 545 00:50:20.830 --> 00:50:21.500 Okay. 546 00:50:29.590 --> 00:50:34.460 Evan Corrigan: I think we we can come. We'll come back to it, and we'll definitely discuss it. For. 547 00:50:34.580 --> 00:50:39.810 robertthibodeau: Yeah, let's let's let's talk about 10 for a second and give him a second. 548 00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:43.139 robertthibodeau: and then, selena, you can say your piece 549 00:50:43.600 --> 00:50:46.759 robertthibodeau: on the bridge if he whether he shows up or not. 550 00:50:48.300 --> 00:50:59.779 robertthibodeau: so number 10. General discussion form on ptc function and wish list for 2,023. Evan put this on. See? Everybody would have a chance, I think, or you can explain it. Evan. 551 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:01.919 robertthibodeau: Everybody would have a chance. 552 00:51:02.510 --> 00:51:04.220 Evan Corrigan: Yeah, honestly like 553 00:51:04.900 --> 00:51:11.999 Evan Corrigan: this is a more lighthearted thing. But you know we're all on this parking and transportation committee. 554 00:51:12.310 --> 00:51:17.300 Evan Corrigan: for one reason or another. So I thought it would be just cool to talk about 555 00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:20.139 Evan Corrigan: things we might want to take on next year or 556 00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:23.840 Evan Corrigan: ways that everybody sees improvements on how 557 00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:28.380 Evan Corrigan: the parking and transportation committee could function with the 558 00:51:28.740 --> 00:51:31.470 Evan Corrigan: the new Council member and the new Government. 559 00:51:31.980 --> 00:51:34.819 Evan Corrigan: so honestly it's just like an open forum. 560 00:51:35.770 --> 00:51:39.110 Evan Corrigan: you know. I don't know if anybody wants to start 561 00:51:39.590 --> 00:51:42.780 Evan Corrigan: If nobody wants to start, I can start. 562 00:51:44.530 --> 00:51:48.970 robertthibodeau: You start. I've got 2 things I want to say, and i'll keep them short. But you start. 563 00:51:49.250 --> 00:51:55.660 Evan Corrigan: I think. One thing I think I saw on the community plan update, but making when we 564 00:51:55.680 --> 00:51:57.149 Evan Corrigan: circle 565 00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:03.139 Evan Corrigan: no one would have like that question by the Venice sign 566 00:52:03.330 --> 00:52:05.880 Evan Corrigan: more pedestrian, friendly or 567 00:52:06.140 --> 00:52:08.759 Evan Corrigan: I think that it is some sort of plaza. So. 568 00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:11.609 Evan Corrigan: looking into that, I think would be really cool. 569 00:52:15.860 --> 00:52:19.799 Evan Corrigan: And honestly, we doing like the cross walks at that whole intersection. 570 00:52:20.500 --> 00:52:26.859 Evan Corrigan: because that's like a very famous Venice place. And it's like a little beat up on the road there. 571 00:52:27.620 --> 00:52:30.240 Evan Corrigan: so I think that could be a cool 572 00:52:30.410 --> 00:52:31.910 Evan Corrigan: to work on next year. 573 00:52:37.490 --> 00:52:52.509 robertthibodeau: I think that that sounds great. we have taken up oneward plaza before I don't remember if we actually made motions on it. But the pedestrian thing on when we're Buzz has come up in front of this committee in the past, and I could talk to you offline 574 00:52:52.540 --> 00:52:58.820 robertthibodeau: on some of the challenges, as well as you know some of the benefits you definitely have a lot of support for what you're talking about. 575 00:53:01.380 --> 00:53:12.130 robertthibodeau: I feel I drop the ball a little bit at the end of the community plan update, and I still want to. I want to not attack. But I want to opine on 576 00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:18.569 robertthibodeau: parking and transportation related issues for the new community plan. 577 00:53:18.630 --> 00:53:21.910 robertthibodeau: and I have a good working relationship with Mchale. 578 00:53:21.970 --> 00:53:26.330 robertthibodeau: so i'd like to do a Co. Co. Meeting with him, but i'd like to kind of be. 579 00:53:27.290 --> 00:53:34.289 robertthibodeau: I got 3 quarters of the way there and then. I I never made it that last 25 yards or whatever and 580 00:53:35.030 --> 00:53:42.879 robertthibodeau: and so that would be mine would be the also the community plan update, but specifically about the the land use plan 581 00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:53.619 robertthibodeau: more specific and more technical, technically kind of things like looking at at part, the parking requirements, and some of the other requirements for 582 00:53:53.910 --> 00:54:00.379 robertthibodeau: as related to you using your lots and how it's formatted. 583 00:54:00.810 --> 00:54:02.229 robertthibodeau: and then 584 00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:07.130 robertthibodeau: That was one. And then there was another one to shit 585 00:54:10.570 --> 00:54:11.680 robertthibodeau: come 586 00:54:12.460 --> 00:54:13.120 you. 587 00:54:13.550 --> 00:54:17.850 robertthibodeau: I i'm gonna skip to some. I had a brain part on what the second one was. 588 00:54:18.630 --> 00:54:37.759 robertthibodeau: What is it going down to and getting contacts? Yeah, that was it. Thank you. You read my mind? Yeah, I think we need to get more specific contacts that we can actually be calling at D Ot. And that might be physically going down there and 589 00:54:37.770 --> 00:54:39.330 robertthibodeau: taking business cards. 590 00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:42.129 robertthibodeau: You it contracts. Thank you everything. 591 00:54:42.340 --> 00:54:43.689 robertthibodeau: So I was killing me. 592 00:54:49.070 --> 00:54:50.709 robertthibodeau: and 593 00:54:50.790 --> 00:54:51.640 nice. 594 00:54:54.490 --> 00:55:09.020 jim murez: so I I think what I what i'm hearing when we're plaza, you know I can give you a brief idea that that you know the issue there, that the the committee needs to seriously look at is traffic circulation. 595 00:55:09.040 --> 00:55:13.219 jim murez: And what happens to to the the traffic that 596 00:55:13.490 --> 00:55:14.680 jim murez: currently 597 00:55:15.110 --> 00:55:17.410 jim murez: exits the speedway? 598 00:55:17.460 --> 00:55:19.599 jim murez: at the traffic light. 599 00:55:20.150 --> 00:55:22.079 jim murez: if you if you? 600 00:55:22.130 --> 00:55:25.420 jim murez: because there's you know we would love to see it turned into a plaza. 601 00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:41.659 jim murez: but that's kind of the issue and that needs there. There's been several people that have worked on it, including myself and and Matt Royce have have come up with some ideas about how to address the traffic circulation problem. But that's the big issue there. 602 00:55:41.790 --> 00:55:45.320 jim murez: and with the community plan besides parking 603 00:55:45.350 --> 00:55:50.210 jim murez: the and and that needs to be very much 604 00:55:50.410 --> 00:56:05.219 jim murez: considered as it's looked into the the land use plan, and what are the parking requirements, and what are the future demands? But perhaps more importantly in my mind that goes along with all of that is traffic circulation in the region. 605 00:56:05.550 --> 00:56:09.210 jim murez: you know we're being hit by a lot of commuter traffic. 606 00:56:09.500 --> 00:56:13.330 jim murez: and you know we have streets like Pacific, where there's really no 607 00:56:13.500 --> 00:56:18.020 jim murez: 80. A compliance sidewalk, and we're having a tremendous 608 00:56:18.050 --> 00:56:21.260 jim murez: change in the way that people get around. 609 00:56:21.300 --> 00:56:36.609 jim murez: You know there's there's groups like streets for all that are pushing, pushing, pushing, putting in bike lines and the bike lanes are going 35 miles an hour, which means you have less than a half a second to watch them come out from behind a car. 610 00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:47.829 jim murez: you know they they're hidden behind the car fruit for less than 500 ms. If that gives you any idea of the rate of travel. And these are the kinds of things that I think 611 00:56:48.210 --> 00:56:54.830 jim murez: you know, if we're looking at the next 20 years, which is, it's been more than that since the last 612 00:56:55.230 --> 00:57:08.929 jim murez: look at what traffic looked like in Venice. That would be the kind of stuff that I would certainly like to see us take on. Because I think that that's a much bigger issue, you know. Do we really need to have as many lanes of of 613 00:57:09.030 --> 00:57:22.900 jim murez: vehicle traffic? Or maybe we need to have, you know, more dedicated bike lanes that are designed for motorized bikes, because an electric motorized bike at this point, or a scooter not considered a a a a 614 00:57:23.080 --> 00:57:29.079 jim murez: gas propelled vehicle that falls under any regulation within the State of California. 615 00:57:29.260 --> 00:57:32.310 jim murez: And so you know that's something that 616 00:57:32.790 --> 00:57:37.769 jim murez: Hasn't yet been addressed, and maybe we can help influence that, and at the same time 617 00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:44.069 jim murez: come up with. You know. What should our community look like? You know it'd be nice to have wider 618 00:57:44.100 --> 00:57:46.190 jim murez: sidewalks on Avid Kenny. 619 00:57:46.370 --> 00:57:55.169 jim murez: And what does that mean, you know the it being less parking. But maybe there's other solutions. Instead of parking we could look at. You know 620 00:57:55.260 --> 00:58:01.639 jim murez: what the concept of having a circulating bus like we've always been promised. And and 621 00:58:01.950 --> 00:58:03.060 jim murez: you know the 622 00:58:03.230 --> 00:58:04.950 jim murez: I mean, You're new to this. But 623 00:58:05.010 --> 00:58:09.179 jim murez: you know, 20 years ago, Pl. Of the promise to give us a 624 00:58:09.210 --> 00:58:19.279 jim murez: a commuter bus, you know, like a local shuttle bus, you know city of of or the the portion of Los Angeles, if if we look out. 625 00:58:19.550 --> 00:58:36.719 jim murez: you know, to what are other parts of this doing? Hollywood, San Pedro, Westwood. All of them have dash buses, including downtown Los Angeles, and we don't have anything like that. We don't have a city bus that gets us around and said, we have something called la, now, which you know it's kind of a 626 00:58:37.110 --> 00:58:38.879 jim murez: hybrid between 627 00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:44.620 jim murez: rideshare, you know, like Uber and and the Mta buses. 628 00:58:44.680 --> 00:58:53.059 jim murez: and it doesn't really give anybody the feeling of Gee! I can get on this bus, and 3 min later i'll be over at the parking lot where I left my car 629 00:58:53.300 --> 00:59:02.149 Evan Corrigan: in Miami. They have my beach. They have a great little network of shuttle buses that are like they look like trolley's, and then they also have these 630 00:59:03.110 --> 00:59:07.179 Evan Corrigan: 10 seater golf carts that go around. You can just hop on. 631 00:59:07.550 --> 00:59:10.080 jim murez: Well, you know. Then Dennis had those, 632 00:59:10.260 --> 00:59:12.979 jim murez: you know, 90 years ago, 80 80 years ago 633 00:59:13.040 --> 00:59:19.569 jim murez: the open on both sides, and you could just hop on while it was going by. You know it went 5 or 10 miles an hour, but 634 00:59:19.680 --> 00:59:20.989 jim murez: it's a great run. 635 00:59:21.140 --> 00:59:28.949 Evan Corrigan: but there's I feel like there's so many people that come to Venice on the weekend, and they they're on avid Keny. Then they take over down to Washington, or 636 00:59:29.070 --> 00:59:33.749 Evan Corrigan: wherever so that could be really cool thing to look into. 637 00:59:33.940 --> 00:59:47.049 jim murez: and the and the other thing that I think we really have to pay attention. I mean. I live on Main Street, and the traffic in the morning going northbound. The traffic in the afternoon going southbound is absolutely insane. 638 00:59:47.220 --> 00:59:50.869 jim murez: and you know it backs up from from Abbey Kenny 639 00:59:51.140 --> 00:59:55.449 jim murez: all the way into Santa Monica, and all the way down Avid Kenny 640 00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:57.000 jim murez: to Venice Boulevard. 641 00:59:57.020 --> 01:00:06.659 jim murez: and that's not because those people live in Venice and work in Venice. There are traffic patterns that could be designed and looked at, that would deter 642 01:00:07.150 --> 01:00:12.910 jim murez: commuter traffic. And I think that you know, if we really wanted to put something into the community plan. 643 01:00:12.930 --> 01:00:15.939 jim murez: That's the that we need to have going forward. 644 01:00:17.020 --> 01:00:17.830 Cool. 645 01:00:18.150 --> 01:00:22.220 robertthibodeau: ladies. Anything from the 3 of you. 646 01:00:22.410 --> 01:00:28.830 alyson: I have something, I mean. I'd love to have somebody from Tracy's Council Office. Come, and 647 01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:43.009 alyson: I don't know, share who they are. Share their presence. Let us ask some questions and sort of see with the sea, change what we can expect in terms of collaboration and allyship on future projects. 648 01:00:43.470 --> 01:00:57.259 jim murez: So, Allison, that's going to be a couple of months. She's still trying to figure out who's going to it's a great idea, though it could be February, not January, I mean, I don't know if we put in the request now. Maybe it'll happen in February. 649 01:01:00.050 --> 01:01:01.399 robertthibodeau: anybody else. 650 01:01:02.900 --> 01:01:07.339 Selena Inouye: Elizabeth, if you're not gonna go. I'll go next. 651 01:01:07.650 --> 01:01:11.779 Selena Inouye: So for me i'm kind of looking more bigger picture 652 01:01:11.820 --> 01:01:22.179 Selena Inouye: salita. Reynolds is is leaving as the general manager of led ot. So we're going to have a new general manager appointed by our new mayor. 653 01:01:22.510 --> 01:01:28.260 Selena Inouye: It'll be interesting to see what their background is, and what their emphasis is. 654 01:01:28.500 --> 01:01:33.870 Selena Inouye: I would like to see us advocating for 655 01:01:34.050 --> 01:01:42.309 Selena Inouye: more plans from led ot that are actually driven by the traffic engineers versus the traffic planners. 656 01:01:42.430 --> 01:01:47.019 Selena Inouye: I I feel like we have a lot of plans out there that 657 01:01:47.600 --> 01:01:51.200 Selena Inouye: I don't pay enough attention to the details. 658 01:01:51.260 --> 01:01:56.739 Selena Inouye: It's, for example, taking a lane away. Where are all those cars going? 659 01:01:58.270 --> 01:02:04.539 Selena Inouye: We've got mobility behind 2,035 that was passed with very little public input 660 01:02:04.700 --> 01:02:11.519 Selena Inouye: and I think, even till today people don't really understand what mobility plan 2,035 is. 661 01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:16.109 Selena Inouye: I would like to see us advocate for a 662 01:02:16.260 --> 01:02:20.750 Selena Inouye: more step by step, approach to implementing it 663 01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:26.449 Selena Inouye: to make it so that people are willing to consider other modes of transportation 664 01:02:26.510 --> 01:02:32.100 Selena Inouye: versus being forced to take other modes of transportation. 665 01:02:32.220 --> 01:02:34.139 Selena Inouye: I I really feel like. 666 01:02:34.640 --> 01:02:39.870 Selena Inouye: If you want people to change, you need to do it in a way that that is. 667 01:02:40.070 --> 01:02:41.400 Selena Inouye: people can accept. 668 01:02:41.920 --> 01:02:48.910 Selena Inouye: And I think that that has been the biggest problem with Venice Boulevard is, the changes were made without 669 01:02:49.110 --> 01:02:51.670 Selena Inouye: real discussions with the community. 670 01:02:51.700 --> 01:02:55.499 Selena Inouye: I I anticipate that with our new Council person. 671 01:02:55.540 --> 01:02:58.470 Selena Inouye: but that really won't be such an issue. 672 01:02:58.570 --> 01:03:08.240 Selena Inouye: but I really I feel like if we want change to happen, we need to figure out a way to make it happen where people can be okay with it 673 01:03:08.600 --> 01:03:11.950 Selena Inouye: versus people being so upset about it that 674 01:03:11.980 --> 01:03:17.149 Selena Inouye: it kind of derails the whole process. So that's kind of where i'm thinking. 675 01:03:24.010 --> 01:03:25.709 Evan Corrigan: Yeah, I can agree with that. 676 01:03:29.720 --> 01:03:31.149 Elizabeth C.: I totally agree with that. 677 01:03:31.540 --> 01:03:33.730 Elizabeth C.: what I was gonna say 678 01:03:35.160 --> 01:03:37.470 Elizabeth C.: empower this committee a bit more. 679 01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:41.919 Elizabeth C.: I think we should be a direct liaison to District 11, 680 01:03:42.950 --> 01:03:43.720 Elizabeth C.: and not 681 01:03:43.810 --> 01:03:46.539 Elizabeth C.: that i'm cutting B and C out of the loop. But I am. 682 01:03:47.860 --> 01:03:49.460 Elizabeth C.: I just think that 683 01:03:50.350 --> 01:03:55.809 Elizabeth C.: this is a really important committee. It's maybe one of the most overlooked 684 01:03:55.830 --> 01:03:57.710 Elizabeth C.: committees, because we can actually 685 01:03:57.780 --> 01:03:59.000 Elizabeth C.: get things 686 01:03:59.370 --> 01:04:01.589 Elizabeth C.: done. They were, you know. 687 01:04:02.570 --> 01:04:09.480 Elizabeth C.: pretty proactive group, but also we're not I don't think we get caught. We're not the type of group 688 01:04:09.590 --> 01:04:10.800 Elizabeth C.: for a topic 689 01:04:10.940 --> 01:04:11.660 that 690 01:04:11.690 --> 01:04:14.150 Elizabeth C.: gets caught in all the minutia. 691 01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:20.089 Elizabeth C.: You know things that tend to hold projects up, and I think we should take advantage of that and see if we can create 692 01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:22.879 Elizabeth C.: You have a new Council person. 693 01:04:22.930 --> 01:04:24.000 Elizabeth C.: and maybe. 694 01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:26.540 Elizabeth C.: and I know that she's 695 01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:30.999 Elizabeth C.: cast with so many things that she would love to see committees 696 01:04:31.050 --> 01:04:35.089 Elizabeth C.: that they can outreach to and consult with. 697 01:04:35.420 --> 01:04:41.960 Elizabeth C.: So think about taking this as a consulting group to to District 11. I mean, they're, of course, going to be 698 01:04:42.250 --> 01:04:45.120 Elizabeth C.: excited to have volunteers to consult with. 699 01:04:45.170 --> 01:04:49.190 Elizabeth C.: but if you put it forward in a way that you've got a lot of experience on 700 01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:50.780 Elizabeth C.: a committee like this. 701 01:04:52.070 --> 01:04:56.890 Elizabeth C.: you know there's you'd normally pay a lot of money to have our brains on something. 702 01:04:56.990 --> 01:04:57.919 Elizabeth C.: So 703 01:04:58.310 --> 01:04:59.750 Elizabeth C.: just to think about 704 01:05:00.370 --> 01:05:03.840 Elizabeth C.: how you might want to close on some of these projects you need. 705 01:05:04.220 --> 01:05:07.020 Elizabeth C.: You need the desire of the people above you 706 01:05:07.160 --> 01:05:11.399 Elizabeth C.: to want to bring these projects to fruition. I've been seeing this at V and C. 707 01:05:11.990 --> 01:05:15.529 Elizabeth C.: But i'm sure Jim always hears me, but i'm not sure anyone else does. 708 01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:22.550 Elizabeth C.: But the the idea of having things come from the bottom, and then you try to push them up. That's a heavy load. 709 01:05:22.610 --> 01:05:23.299 Elizabeth C.: It's 710 01:05:23.710 --> 01:05:31.600 Elizabeth C.: even easier if you go to the top, and you say, what are the things that we can get money for this year. What are your 711 01:05:31.690 --> 01:05:37.719 Elizabeth C.: What's your agenda? What's your focus for District 11? And then how can we help? So how can we. 712 01:05:37.930 --> 01:05:48.959 Elizabeth C.: We take 2 of these projects and actually make them happen, because otherwise we're just dream weavers. We're sitting sitting here creating motions that go up into the abyss. 713 01:05:49.020 --> 01:05:50.290 Elizabeth C.: and they go nowhere. 714 01:05:50.350 --> 01:05:58.280 Elizabeth C.: I put a lot of thought into into this over the last many months I've watched the V and C. 715 01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:02.369 Elizabeth C.: And in of over the last 2 years. Maybe I 716 01:06:02.890 --> 01:06:03.779 Elizabeth C.: gained 717 01:06:03.820 --> 01:06:06.990 Elizabeth C.: a better understanding of what it can and can't do, and 718 01:06:07.690 --> 01:06:10.400 Elizabeth C.: it was created with best intentions. But 719 01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:20.000 Elizabeth C.: you know, if the people above you at a marital level aren't that interested it doesn't really matter how hard these neighborhood committees 720 01:06:20.260 --> 01:06:22.410 Elizabeth C.: and neighborhood councils work 721 01:06:22.580 --> 01:06:26.900 Elizabeth C.: there, it's just not going to go anywhere. It's a lot of time that we spend 722 01:06:27.600 --> 01:06:29.069 Elizabeth C.: often fruitlessly 723 01:06:29.330 --> 01:06:34.430 Elizabeth C.: so rather than complaining about that i'd love to see that changed with 724 01:06:35.080 --> 01:06:37.810 Elizabeth C.: a proactive suggestion to District 11. 725 01:06:39.860 --> 01:06:41.469 Elizabeth C.: You're you're muted, Robert. 726 01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:42.819 If you're talking. 727 01:06:43.660 --> 01:06:52.989 Elizabeth C.: I was discussing my couch. I thought you found that so empowering. You were saying something. 728 01:06:54.020 --> 01:06:57.180 Elizabeth C.: any other thoughts on it from other people. I'd love to hear it. 729 01:06:57.980 --> 01:07:01.419 Evan Corrigan: I think that makes a lot of sense. 730 01:07:01.830 --> 01:07:02.900 Evan Corrigan: and I think 731 01:07:03.170 --> 01:07:05.869 Evan Corrigan: our next count to my bear will be 732 01:07:06.200 --> 01:07:10.330 Evan Corrigan: probably a lot more responsive. And like you and I 733 01:07:10.820 --> 01:07:13.969 Evan Corrigan: He emailed some questions a few months ago to her, and she just 734 01:07:14.070 --> 01:07:15.329 Evan Corrigan: like called me. 735 01:07:15.650 --> 01:07:23.279 Evan Corrigan: And we discussed street trees, and you know, bike lanes on our not main streets. But you know, off of them. 736 01:07:23.570 --> 01:07:28.550 Elizabeth C.: Okay, Tracy is hungry for knowledge. I've walked through the community many times and 737 01:07:28.700 --> 01:07:29.849 Elizabeth C.: showing her 738 01:07:29.900 --> 01:07:32.859 Elizabeth C.: projects and ideas that 739 01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:34.220 you know, if 740 01:07:34.240 --> 01:07:40.590 Elizabeth C.: land use planning, she's, she's really trying to understand. You know she's got decades to catch up on. 741 01:07:40.860 --> 01:07:48.120 Elizabeth C.: and she's got to consume a lot of knowledge and short period of time, so the more that people can give her that 742 01:07:48.370 --> 01:07:49.259 Elizabeth C.: data. 743 01:07:50.040 --> 01:07:52.860 Elizabeth C.: The it shortens up for learning curves. So 744 01:07:52.990 --> 01:07:55.300 Elizabeth C.: she, she is eager to learn. 745 01:07:56.510 --> 01:07:58.660 Evan Corrigan: How would you? I mean. 746 01:07:59.820 --> 01:08:08.719 Evan Corrigan: Would you just get a conversation started to we if he's available for a meeting in a few months? 747 01:08:10.010 --> 01:08:11.260 Elizabeth C.: I think it's an 748 01:08:11.690 --> 01:08:14.830 Elizabeth C.: undeniably good offering that i'm. Suggesting 749 01:08:15.100 --> 01:08:17.769 Elizabeth C.: but what the reason i'm suggesting. It is. 750 01:08:17.830 --> 01:08:20.849 Elizabeth C.: the Evan. Your presentations have been 751 01:08:21.140 --> 01:08:22.229 Elizabeth C.: phenomenal. 752 01:08:23.109 --> 01:08:31.440 Elizabeth C.: and I haven't sat yet in a committee where there's been productive meetings where you know, I understand what the goals are. 753 01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:35.309 Elizabeth C.: and there's been timeline set and people actually come prepared. 754 01:08:35.740 --> 01:08:36.529 Elizabeth C.: That's great. 755 01:08:36.609 --> 01:08:41.880 Elizabeth C.: So I I put more energy into this myself. And 756 01:08:42.290 --> 01:08:46.529 Elizabeth C.: I I just. I feel like we could take on 2 topics and actually complete them 757 01:08:48.060 --> 01:09:00.650 Elizabeth C.: and and not get crazy. Don't get 10 ideas, but just like pick to see if if District 11 would be on board. I think the win-word one is phenomenal, though i'm sure i'll hear all the reasons. It can't work, but 758 01:09:01.950 --> 01:09:04.810 Elizabeth C.: maybe it's time for a fresh outlook on it. 759 01:09:06.149 --> 01:09:12.550 Elizabeth C.: and I, from a very personal point of view. I would love to see something happen here. you know it 760 01:09:12.770 --> 01:09:15.170 Elizabeth C.: at on that that crossing. 761 01:09:15.899 --> 01:09:16.719 robertthibodeau: Yeah. 762 01:09:16.850 --> 01:09:20.150 Elizabeth C.: yeah, I've been nearly killed too many times. So 763 01:09:20.200 --> 01:09:30.269 Elizabeth C.: W. Which crossing avid, and the one we were talking about. You know how to how to change. 764 01:09:30.620 --> 01:09:33.330 Evan Corrigan: No, I feel like that one I mean. 765 01:09:33.740 --> 01:09:38.579 Evan Corrigan: I've talked to a bunch of people who work on the street live around there like everybody. 766 01:09:38.660 --> 01:09:45.180 Evan Corrigan: Seems to be down like down for stuff like that. 767 01:09:45.210 --> 01:09:49.649 Elizabeth C.: Just I have 2 dogs, and if I want to get to add it, I just have to run and 768 01:09:49.970 --> 01:09:58.099 Elizabeth C.: and sometimes dive for the bushes, and then just go back out and try again. It's like a big game of frog to get to have it. 769 01:09:59.340 --> 01:10:06.259 Elizabeth C.: So yeah, I mean, there is. We could pick some highly sensitive areas. 770 01:10:06.670 --> 01:10:17.019 Elizabeth C.: get the insurance stats behind them and and really work on it to see if we can implement change, but go a lot higher. Yeah, if I learned one thing from Centennial Park. 771 01:10:17.130 --> 01:10:19.940 Elizabeth C.: not much is getting done at a low level. 772 01:10:20.030 --> 01:10:22.750 Elizabeth C.: You really do have to make your network 773 01:10:22.900 --> 01:10:24.529 Elizabeth C.: at the Mayor's office. 774 01:10:25.670 --> 01:10:28.449 Elizabeth C.: and that's why I got things done because I went a lot higher. 775 01:10:28.470 --> 01:10:30.539 Elizabeth C.: I didn't talk to the usual suspects. 776 01:10:31.280 --> 01:10:33.110 Evan Corrigan: Okay, that's good. 777 01:10:33.160 --> 01:10:34.130 Evan Corrigan: Get it done. 778 01:10:34.390 --> 01:10:44.090 robertthibodeau: So the last thing. I wrote down everybody's things, and all everybody sort of had one issue except for me that maybe it, too. And 779 01:10:44.420 --> 01:10:47.429 robertthibodeau: i'll i'll write this down and just 780 01:10:48.020 --> 01:10:51.470 robertthibodeau: cliff notes and and distribute them 781 01:10:51.910 --> 01:10:58.589 robertthibodeau: the last thing we had, which was actually previous item was, is Jim still on here. Yes 782 01:10:58.610 --> 01:11:02.359 robertthibodeau: was to go back to item 783 01:11:03.550 --> 01:11:13.699 robertthibodeau: 8, which is to discuss the bridge impacts. which I think he sort of opened up with at the beginning. So, Evan, if you want to take over. 784 01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:27.609 robertthibodeau: and then so we're back on Number 8, which is the Lincoln Boulevard. But you see the agenda up there, right? 785 01:11:28.120 --> 01:11:28.750 robertthibodeau: Yeah. 786 01:11:29.480 --> 01:11:31.310 Evan Corrigan: okay. I mean. 787 01:11:31.450 --> 01:11:37.399 robertthibodeau: Jim probably has like way, more knowledge on this. But he's looking at Jim. Are you listening? Are you on? 788 01:11:38.100 --> 01:11:40.429 robertthibodeau: Yeah, okay, Yes, I'm. Here. 789 01:11:40.450 --> 01:11:41.330 robertthibodeau: Okay. 790 01:11:41.820 --> 01:11:42.940 Evan Corrigan: So 791 01:11:43.860 --> 01:11:47.610 jim murez: you know, if you, if you want to make impact, I think that you know 792 01:11:47.750 --> 01:11:57.199 jim murez: part of the concept of of taking little bytes is a good thing to do. But you know the little bite here would be, what are the impacts going to be? What are the what? How can we mitigate 793 01:11:57.510 --> 01:11:59.789 jim murez: any improvements to the road? But 794 01:11:59.910 --> 01:12:13.849 jim murez: and clearly we all want improvements. I mean it would be great to see a bike lane there, and a pedestrian sidewalk that was, you know, more separated from the roadway, and which you might just summarize it, because i'm not sure. 795 01:12:14.020 --> 01:12:16.420 Evan Corrigan: Solve the the rendering. And stuff. 796 01:12:18.290 --> 01:12:22.889 Evan Corrigan: Do you want to summarize what what they plan to do to the to the bridge? 797 01:12:24.040 --> 01:12:26.150 jim murez: Well, they, I think they're playing on wide 798 01:12:27.020 --> 01:12:39.789 jim murez: Yeah, to add a shovel lane. I mean, they're showing They're showing a metro train going down there. But the question is, where does that Metro train go? What's that going to do to Lincoln Boulevard coming through Venice? 799 01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:43.859 Evan Corrigan: So the metric. This rendering was pre measure, and 800 01:12:43.930 --> 01:12:48.760 Evan Corrigan: so I think that's just room for the prt of measure and 801 01:12:50.090 --> 01:12:53.869 Evan Corrigan: which is now just the the bus only lane that we have 802 01:12:54.030 --> 01:12:56.049 Evan Corrigan: that's gonna go down like in Boulevard. 803 01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:00.610 Evan Corrigan: so 804 01:13:00.650 --> 01:13:07.040 Evan Corrigan: adding in a transportation lane, and adding in a sidewalk, and adding in a travel and going south 805 01:13:07.680 --> 01:13:08.550 Evan Corrigan: right 806 01:13:12.950 --> 01:13:18.840 jim murez: well, I mean from the picture you were just showing. They're more than doubling the wide of the bridge, the width of the bridge. 807 01:13:20.410 --> 01:13:22.979 Evan Corrigan: Yeah, I'd be basically adding 3 lanes. 808 01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:31.309 Evan Corrigan: They're adding a lot more than that. Those sidewalks were, were 12 to 15 feet wide, and adding in big sidewalks, adding in a 809 01:13:31.380 --> 01:13:33.019 Evan Corrigan: a 10 foot by plan. 810 01:13:34.630 --> 01:13:35.330 jim murez: Yeah. 811 01:13:35.610 --> 01:13:46.869 jim murez: and you know what that that bike Lane doesn't comply to what the folks that are are lobbying up at the State are calling for, which is a protected by client. 812 01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:49.439 jim murez: There's no separation there 813 01:13:49.610 --> 01:13:55.430 jim murez: before this plan gets built. I mean there's no landscaping along the the the walkways. 814 01:13:56.740 --> 01:14:05.029 jim murez: you know the bike line doesn't have a separate curve and a barrier to keep the cars from accidentally driving through them. 815 01:14:05.850 --> 01:14:08.250 jim murez: You know it. 816 01:14:09.170 --> 01:14:11.060 jim murez: It's hard to believe that. 817 01:14:11.280 --> 01:14:14.470 jim murez: And then, you know, if you look at it closely, you see the 818 01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:19.539 jim murez: the hand rills that they've created, making trying to make it look like the bridge that's there today 819 01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:22.780 jim murez: along the bridge, the the vertical railing. 820 01:14:22.820 --> 01:14:30.860 jim murez: It looks like the old fashioned stuff. I mean, if they're going to spend the kind of money that it's going to take to build something that's got 3 lanes on either side of the road. 821 01:14:31.080 --> 01:14:40.939 jim murez: and also a bike lane, and also really wide sidewalks, and also a metro going down the center, because that Metro is at least 20 feet wide. 822 01:14:43.240 --> 01:14:47.659 jim murez: There's 2 full lanes of of trains, one going north, one going south. 823 01:14:48.220 --> 01:14:50.739 jim murez: So what's that going to do when it gets to Washington. 824 01:14:54.400 --> 01:15:11.000 Elizabeth C.: Yeah, i'm wondering where that train is going 825 01:15:11.110 --> 01:15:17.490 jim murez: is what they're talking. That's what Caltrans is proposing for the the cover Boulevard overpass. 826 01:15:17.730 --> 01:15:21.640 Evan Corrigan: So there is no train. This this rendering was. 827 01:15:21.670 --> 01:15:23.740 Evan Corrigan: I think, 10 years old at this point. 828 01:15:24.110 --> 01:15:25.529 Evan Corrigan: It's a bus 829 01:15:27.200 --> 01:15:30.170 Selena Inouye: like a Google map. 830 01:15:30.400 --> 01:15:40.250 Selena Inouye: So Jim wasn't this part of the specific plan updates back in 2,015 wasn't. This part of the discussion that they were having. 831 01:15:40.330 --> 01:15:44.140 Selena Inouye: that Caltrans would come in and widen the bridge. 832 01:15:44.170 --> 01:15:49.509 Selena Inouye: the Culver Bridge, the Lincoln Bridge, and then they would hand 833 01:15:49.700 --> 01:16:06.360 Selena Inouye: this section of Lincoln Boulevard over to the city, and then city would do all of these other improvements, and and correct me if i'm wrong. But wasn't there a determination made like back in 2,015, that 834 01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:11.329 Selena Inouye: they actually couldn't be a train on Lincoln Boulevard because of the water table. 835 01:16:11.770 --> 01:16:14.029 Selena Inouye: because I don't think that 836 01:16:14.140 --> 01:16:16.950 jim murez: that that I mean there are trains on top of the 837 01:16:16.980 --> 01:16:18.699 jim murez: No. I don't think that's an issue. 838 01:16:18.910 --> 01:16:32.489 jim murez: I mean, if it was discussed at one time it it it's currently not, as you know, the interesting thing in this photo that you have in front of you right now. Look at where the apartment buildings on the lower right hand corner 839 01:16:32.540 --> 01:16:34.499 jim murez: and look at where they stop. 840 01:16:35.560 --> 01:16:42.099 jim murez: So when playa vista was being developed, and that and those compartment complexes are part of play a vista. 841 01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:55.660 jim murez: The widening of the road was already being planned in on the north side. There, on the on the right hand side, the left hand side is a separate parcel of land that has no conditions. It's it. You know it. It could be built into being 842 01:16:56.780 --> 01:17:08.019 jim murez: anything you want it. Could it could become a that left hand side right there on the yeah, where where your cursor is going. that parcel of land between Cover and Lincoln 843 01:17:08.740 --> 01:17:11.769 jim murez: doesn't have any particular. It's only been used as farm lab. 844 01:17:11.850 --> 01:17:20.050 jim murez: and theoretically, and it's, and it's zone to be pretty much anything one wants to do so it it could even be a a homeless shelter. 845 01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:24.150 Elizabeth C.: I'm reading 27 extra feet 846 01:17:24.310 --> 01:17:26.379 Elizabeth C.: is the what they're looking to. Add. 847 01:17:26.840 --> 01:17:29.539 jim murez: Yeah, that's not what Caltrans is talking about. 848 01:17:33.130 --> 01:17:35.930 jim murez: I was at the Cal Trans meeting when they showed the proposal. 849 01:17:36.290 --> 01:17:42.110 jim murez: So as you go, if if you continue to scroll the map up, you can see you got 11 lines. We can get the link the other direction. 850 01:17:42.440 --> 01:17:43.659 robertthibodeau: so maybe we can 851 01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:55.610 robertthibodeau: down with Caltrans and find out what the plans actually are, because it looks like we're looking at like old renderings. Possibly, although I've got to say that when I spoke with Council's office about Lincoln Boulevard. 852 01:17:55.700 --> 01:18:07.170 robertthibodeau: one of the I forget if it was Eric or somebody else said that they were still planning on putting light rail up, and I scratched my head. Alex said it. Yeah, right. 853 01:18:07.840 --> 01:18:10.090 Evan Corrigan: he said. There might be 854 01:18:10.500 --> 01:18:16.670 Evan Corrigan: a long term plan for light rail, and I think that would be the ultimate goal. If there is funding. 855 01:18:17.170 --> 01:18:20.669 Evan Corrigan: it would be to do the Prt. The quick build brt first. 856 01:18:20.980 --> 01:18:22.639 Evan Corrigan: and that do light rail. 857 01:18:22.690 --> 01:18:24.979 Evan Corrigan: and that's like 2,050, 858 01:18:25.380 --> 01:18:27.069 Evan Corrigan: you know, 30 years from now. 859 01:18:27.750 --> 01:18:28.519 robertthibodeau: Right? 860 01:18:29.430 --> 01:18:42.049 jim murez: Yeah. But you know, projecting that far out with the Coastal Commission, saying, You can't do anything subterranean. A water table rising, you know. There's a lot of issues that haven't been considered. I'm not saying it can't be done. 861 01:18:42.290 --> 01:18:45.269 jim murez: Maybe it could be done like an aerial tram or something. 862 01:18:45.290 --> 01:18:51.380 jim murez: But you know either that or they're going to do eminent domain to a whole lot of properties on Lincolnshire. 863 01:18:53.580 --> 01:18:55.580 jim murez: Maybe it's possible. 864 01:18:58.330 --> 01:19:07.969 jim murez: I I think you know, if if the committee wanted to make a statement as far because this is all you know. Everything we're looking at here is outside the region of 865 01:19:07.990 --> 01:19:09.730 jim murez: the Venice Neighborhood Council. 866 01:19:09.880 --> 01:19:11.700 jim murez: So if if the 867 01:19:11.750 --> 01:19:14.350 jim murez: committee and I know that we did this 868 01:19:15.060 --> 01:19:18.210 jim murez: when I was chair of the parking and transferred. 869 01:19:18.470 --> 01:19:20.790 jim murez: We said that we wanted to be involved. 870 01:19:20.990 --> 01:19:23.710 jim murez: and what the design was going to be 871 01:19:23.870 --> 01:19:28.160 jim murez: and and make to to make sure that 872 01:19:28.870 --> 01:19:32.859 jim murez: the impact, the the impacts were going to be mitigated. 873 01:19:33.080 --> 01:19:38.080 jim murez: and some kind of motion like that that went forward to the Board would sort of be a catch all. 874 01:19:38.380 --> 01:19:40.969 jim murez: and it would put the new Council woman 875 01:19:41.190 --> 01:19:42.690 jim murez: in in. 876 01:19:42.760 --> 01:19:49.559 jim murez: You know, aware that this is something that we want to participate in, because it's going to have the greatest impact to our community. 877 01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:52.660 robertthibodeau: and it sounds like we should be liaisoning with Cal. Trans. 878 01:19:52.690 --> 01:20:02.399 jim murez: Which I think we do have contacts over there. 879 01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:11.719 robertthibodeau: We could we could, I mean wouldn't there. We can write them a public record, I mean, they're producing plans, and we have a right to see them. No question 880 01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:14.390 jim murez: we we we can certainly comment to them. 881 01:20:14.550 --> 01:20:19.370 Selena Inouye: Well shouldn't. We also reach out to Dcp. Because I just have this 882 01:20:19.690 --> 01:20:25.840 Selena Inouye: really bad feeling that there are plans that the city did way back when. 883 01:20:25.990 --> 01:20:36.689 Selena Inouye: and i'm wondering if that money that Council Member Bonnan requested was actually to continue whatever plans are already in motion for this once. 884 01:20:36.760 --> 01:20:39.300 Selena Inouye: because I think that the city is waiting 885 01:20:39.330 --> 01:20:42.819 Selena Inouye: for the State to relinquish this to the city 886 01:20:42.920 --> 01:20:48.350 Selena Inouye: right? Sr. One. They want it relinquished, and I and I. I have a feeling that 887 01:20:48.610 --> 01:20:54.710 Selena Inouye: somebody has ideas about what they want to do, and they just Haven't been discussing them with the community. 888 01:20:54.760 --> 01:21:05.339 jim murez: Well, look at look at Venice Boulevard, I mean we have keep in mind that Mike Bond was the the chair of the Transportation Council for the city of Los Angeles. 889 01:21:05.570 --> 01:21:18.369 jim murez: And so you know the projects that he told me about back in 2,013 when he was elected, that he wanted to get Venice Boulevard; that he wanted to get Lincoln Boulevard that these were his goals. I think that's what we're seeing today. 890 01:21:18.510 --> 01:21:25.030 jim murez: and and we've seen what a brilliant job he's done with what's been done, I mean, you know. Let's see 891 01:21:25.050 --> 01:21:30.210 jim murez: the part that Cal trans relinquished back in the early nineties. 892 01:21:30.460 --> 01:21:33.850 jim murez: Venice boulevard west of Lincoln. 893 01:21:33.980 --> 01:21:45.719 jim murez: The roadway condition there by now is considered to be an f condition They have to, you know, scrape it way down and resurface the whole thing. They haven't maintained it at all, yet they have. They did get the money to do it. 894 01:21:46.320 --> 01:21:57.499 jim murez: and and it's the same thing that's happening now with with the road diet on Venice Boulevard, east of Lincoln. They got 14 million dollars from Cal Trans. And now they're pissing it away on, you know. 895 01:21:57.950 --> 01:21:59.809 jim murez: putting in plastic dollars. 896 01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:07.930 jim murez: It's it's not a long-term vision of their so they're they're certainly not making long-term 897 01:22:08.120 --> 01:22:22.900 jim murez: you know mitigation measures. I mean that the question that I keep asking every time I hear about what a project they're going to do with the road diet on on Venice Boulevard. It's like, okay. So you're reducing the number of lanes east and west. 898 01:22:23.030 --> 01:22:32.930 jim murez: What does that do to the cycle? Time of the traffic light to the northbound southbound traffic. The traffic on satellite backs up over the top of the hill. 899 01:22:33.320 --> 01:22:39.799 jim murez: They only have half as much time to get through the intersection, because the traffic on Venice Boulevard is backing up 900 01:22:40.110 --> 01:22:50.480 jim murez: 3 lines of traffic is more than 33% flow, because the amount of time it takes for a person to step on the gas after the light changes. 901 01:22:50.600 --> 01:22:54.859 jim murez: and and you know it's had tremendous impact on people in Marvista. 902 01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:59.069 jim murez: and there are Cal. Trans. I mean the the city of Los Angeles, Isn't recognizing that 903 01:23:00.130 --> 01:23:00.950 jim murez: so? 904 01:23:01.260 --> 01:23:02.900 Selena Inouye: Well, I I think 905 01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:09.139 Selena Inouye: they've gotten a lot of feedback. They just aren't doing anything about it, and that's that's what people are upset about. 906 01:23:09.210 --> 01:23:14.969 Selena Inouye: They did come out and adjust the light timing at Sentinel and Venice. 907 01:23:15.080 --> 01:23:21.450 Selena Inouye: and they made it favor Venice boulevard to get that moving more, and that's why there's such a huge 908 01:23:23.410 --> 01:23:31.549 Selena Inouye: i'm sorry that's why there's such a huge backup onset to know a lot of it has to do with reducing Venice Boulevard by one line. 909 01:23:31.700 --> 01:23:46.480 robertthibodeau: I know this is just a sort of a we're not probably making a motion tonight. But we do have 3 people on the line here. Does is there any questions or comments from anybody in the audience? Just to be respectful. Here. 910 01:23:47.750 --> 01:23:53.620 robertthibodeau: raise your hand if you've got either knowledge on this or you would like to say something. 911 01:23:55.930 --> 01:23:59.309 robertthibodeau: Okay, seeing none, I oh, Simon 912 01:24:00.330 --> 01:24:01.700 robertthibodeau: allowed to talk 913 01:24:03.460 --> 01:24:04.380 whoops. 914 01:24:04.450 --> 01:24:06.629 robertthibodeau: I allow you to talk there. 915 01:24:06.860 --> 01:24:11.960 Simon: They want to widen Lincoln that it goes under the call for Boulevard 916 01:24:12.160 --> 01:24:13.300 Simon: Bridge. 917 01:24:13.470 --> 01:24:16.680 Simon: Are they going to redo the call for Boulevard Bridge. 918 01:24:17.260 --> 01:24:18.170 jim murez: Yes. 919 01:24:18.580 --> 01:24:24.479 jim murez: Oh, so both bridges and and they're talking about widening cover as well. 920 01:24:26.270 --> 01:24:29.390 Simon: so that would mean another bridge over the creek 921 01:24:30.580 --> 01:24:34.799 jim murez: they they were talking about replacing the cover. Boulevard Bridge. Correct? 922 01:24:34.890 --> 01:24:35.769 Simon: Wow. 923 01:24:36.010 --> 01:24:37.269 Simon: Okay, Thank you. 924 01:24:38.190 --> 01:24:39.019 robertthibodeau: Thanks. 925 01:24:41.250 --> 01:24:51.940 jim murez: I think selena's right. I mean, maybe the thing to do is to to reach out to somebody. Where is it? Currently, yeah, now, Trans is talking about widening Link it. 926 01:24:54.340 --> 01:24:55.309 robertthibodeau: Take care of it. 927 01:24:55.580 --> 01:24:57.160 robertthibodeau: okay. 928 01:24:58.640 --> 01:25:00.230 robertthibodeau: Okay. So 929 01:25:00.300 --> 01:25:06.459 robertthibodeau: I I don't think we're making a motion on that one, unless unless unless I'm. 930 01:25:07.150 --> 01:25:09.669 robertthibodeau: I think we need more information. So 931 01:25:09.810 --> 01:25:15.780 Evan Corrigan: been suggesting this good. I I don't know the exact wording on it, but it was just a request for more information. 932 01:25:15.990 --> 01:25:16.790 Elizabeth C.: Yeah. 933 01:25:17.330 --> 01:25:29.099 jim murez: I mean, if you want to, if you want to put that in a motion form. I'll look for it. You don't need to make a motion if you want to draft a letter and have me send it as President, asking for that. I'm happy to do it. 934 01:25:29.440 --> 01:25:37.409 jim murez: We don't we don't need a motion to write a letter and ask for information on a particular project. But what we need is we need some 935 01:25:38.200 --> 01:25:40.710 jim murez: contacts. 936 01:25:41.080 --> 01:25:45.520 jim murez: That would be the point. People that you know we should be reaching out to, and you know, with 937 01:25:45.630 --> 01:25:47.519 jim murez: Tracy being 938 01:25:47.720 --> 01:25:51.250 jim murez: inaugurated, I guess next week 939 01:25:51.830 --> 01:25:59.030 jim murez: it might be a little bit soon to reach out to the Council Office, because I don't think she has a a transportation deputy. 940 01:25:59.240 --> 01:26:06.929 robertthibodeau: well, we can. We can certainly do the 2 that were mentioned. I mean, I mentioned Cal. Trans. I have low level contacts. There we'll see how far they go. 941 01:26:07.070 --> 01:26:11.790 robertthibodeau: And Selena mentioned Dcp. And certainly you know 942 01:26:13.980 --> 01:26:21.709 jim murez: They're They're fairly fairly available to me to you know who is in in West La traffic. At this point 943 01:26:22.470 --> 01:26:24.919 jim murez: I know the old crew pretty much retired. 944 01:26:27.120 --> 01:26:32.750 Selena Inouye: Oh, I can't think of his name the one I thought there was still one person that was still there. 945 01:26:33.140 --> 01:26:35.510 Selena Inouye: I can't think of the same at the moment, though 946 01:26:38.240 --> 01:26:44.369 jim murez: I know who you are talking about, though. The other guy that left. Yeah, he retired after 30 years or something. 947 01:26:44.430 --> 01:26:45.260 robertthibodeau: No? 948 01:26:45.370 --> 01:26:46.519 Selena Inouye: Well, yeah. 949 01:26:47.170 --> 01:26:49.789 Selena Inouye: but there was another person there that 950 01:26:49.940 --> 01:26:57.179 Selena Inouye: I can't think of his name at the moment. Let me let me look around and see if I can find out for you. You know, if Alec is still working for the city of La. 951 01:26:57.800 --> 01:27:09.639 Selena Inouye: Yes, he's working for led ot he's in the Government Relations Office. So his email address would still be the same Robert. We could write to him and ask him if he knows 952 01:27:10.140 --> 01:27:16.649 jim murez: who to contact about this project. He was very, very helpful, always helpful. Yeah. 953 01:27:16.710 --> 01:27:21.280 robertthibodeau: Okay, so we'll do some letter writing. No motion. Is that okay? Does everybody agree to that? 954 01:27:21.990 --> 01:27:24.220 Elizabeth C.: Can I ask Jim a quick question, Jim? Did. 955 01:27:24.720 --> 01:27:29.179 Elizabeth C.: Do you know why they've never thought about using the vertical height like a lot of cities. 956 01:27:29.230 --> 01:27:30.350 Elizabeth C.: Build a 957 01:27:30.540 --> 01:27:34.030 Elizabeth C.: a pedestrian cyclist overpass. 958 01:27:35.230 --> 01:27:42.120 Elizabeth C.: Where are you referring to? Well, anywhere that obviously you narrow the road. You're just going to be in a state of chaos. 959 01:27:43.240 --> 01:27:45.650 Evan Corrigan: Oh, for Venice. Yeah. 960 01:27:46.110 --> 01:28:02.080 jim murez: So I mean, clearly, anytime you do anything up in the air rather than on the ground in an earthquake area. It's just it. The expense goes up. It's. It's a lot cheaper to just build a wider bridge than it is to build an elevated bridge. 961 01:28:02.680 --> 01:28:04.729 jim murez: you know, like a double decker or something. 962 01:28:06.170 --> 01:28:06.910 Yeah. 963 01:28:07.230 --> 01:28:10.190 Elizabeth C.: it just it shocks me because there there's not a 964 01:28:10.690 --> 01:28:15.709 jim murez: the the problem isn't look. The problem is not 965 01:28:16.070 --> 01:28:18.000 jim murez: at the map that we're looking at 966 01:28:18.270 --> 01:28:21.680 jim murez: It's being shared. The problem is when you get to Washington. 967 01:28:22.710 --> 01:28:25.280 jim murez: because up until Washington 968 01:28:25.500 --> 01:28:30.200 jim murez: they have the right of way. So both the North and the southbound side there 969 01:28:30.360 --> 01:28:33.319 jim murez: Suma Corporation had to give up land 970 01:28:33.360 --> 01:28:37.589 jim murez: that although the roads never been widened, all that dirt along there, they have that wide name. 971 01:28:37.740 --> 01:28:48.009 jim murez: You can see why the roadway is when you get up to to to Maxwell. It's very wide. The problem exists once you get to Washington. 972 01:28:48.120 --> 01:28:53.590 jim murez: and and that's the big issue. What happens when you get to Washington? You know. How can you divert 973 01:28:54.140 --> 01:29:03.290 jim murez: more and more traffic because you don't want to divert it westbound? Because if you divert it westbound, what happens? They end up going up, added Kenny, and up Pacific. 974 01:29:04.260 --> 01:29:10.619 jim murez: So somehow there has to be a way to get the people to stay on Lincoln. But the traffic has to flow. 975 01:29:11.160 --> 01:29:15.609 jim murez: And and I mean, I can tell you that a lot of the issues that exist there are 976 01:29:15.690 --> 01:29:18.630 jim murez: have to do with all of the little side streets 977 01:29:18.830 --> 01:29:27.199 jim murez: that you know. Every time there's a side street there's an interruption in traffic flow. You have to have a left turn lane in the center. 978 01:29:27.450 --> 01:29:32.009 jim murez: and you have to have space where people can make that right turn or a left turn 979 01:29:32.070 --> 01:29:35.859 jim murez: into the side street, and you got people coming out. You got people going in. 980 01:29:35.890 --> 01:29:40.969 jim murez: So because we have all of these residential streets all up and down Lincoln 981 01:29:41.170 --> 01:30:01.160 jim murez: that are tying into this major chord or traffic, just doesn't flow, and then we also have a lot of small businesses, I mean, you know there's architecture companies, and some important ones, you know. They have just as much right as anybody else does to being able to have a street 982 01:30:01.170 --> 01:30:03.410 jim murez: that it's not a free way. 983 01:30:03.680 --> 01:30:05.429 jim murez: you know I, 984 01:30:05.510 --> 01:30:10.070 jim murez: if you look at the way that the Marina free ray right there is is designed. 985 01:30:10.210 --> 01:30:17.129 jim murez: If if you scrolled this map a little bit the other direction. There used to be something that was no the other direction. 986 01:30:17.400 --> 01:30:23.000 jim murez: Ruth Gallantor killed it, but it was called the the Venice. 987 01:30:24.470 --> 01:30:26.340 jim murez: I don't know bypass. 988 01:30:26.390 --> 01:30:30.629 jim murez: and it took the marina freeway. If you, continued the Marina freeway, straight 989 01:30:31.030 --> 01:30:35.499 jim murez: onto the other side of Lincoln, you can see how the road continues straight up. 990 01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:43.090 jim murez: That was going to continue all the way up almost to Santa Monica, because it was the old railroad right of way, and they just build it all in 991 01:30:43.850 --> 01:30:46.230 jim murez: with with all kinds of other housing. 992 01:30:46.670 --> 01:30:50.859 jim murez: all of all of that land farther north. As you continue to go. 993 01:30:51.440 --> 01:30:58.020 jim murez: that whole strip of houses right there, all of that was built on a row right of all of those right there. We're all on a railroad right of way. 994 01:30:58.040 --> 01:31:00.150 Elizabeth C.: Vancouver did the exact same thing. 995 01:31:00.260 --> 01:31:14.770 Elizabeth C.: and then, a decade later we screamed for another rail pass to the downtown core. The one we just filled in the cities are notorious for taking the cheapest route out up front, but then, in the end it cost them a lot more money. 996 01:31:14.780 --> 01:31:24.489 jim murez: So I I think the long range, the wrong long ring Gulch needs to be. How do we mitigate clearly the impacts of the northbound southbound transportation? 997 01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:30.699 jim murez: And I think there are ways to do it. I mean, you know, if we go back and look at some of the plans that we put together when I was still chair of the committee. 998 01:31:30.940 --> 01:31:39.599 jim murez: You know. Time of of day use kind of stuff like, you know. Which direction are you allowed to turn? Caltrans could certainly, in their bridge put forward money to have 999 01:31:40.070 --> 01:31:55.190 jim murez: these electric or or electronic signage, which you know no left turn, and the light lights up so you can tell that the so the left turn, no left turn sign actually illuminates when we have the extra lane in one direction or the other, you know. 1000 01:31:55.940 --> 01:31:59.839 jim murez: I I I can tell you, as a kid salv with a boulevard 1001 01:31:59.910 --> 01:32:17.410 jim murez: always used to have the center divide or move one lane to the right or one lane to the left, depending on which direction the lane was to travel. Traffic was flowing, and it still does that in some areas, I mean, if you look at people coming out of Dodger Stadium, they close up all those streets and let people come out, you know, in masses. 1002 01:32:17.470 --> 01:32:19.470 jim murez: But it it would take 1003 01:32:19.570 --> 01:32:21.699 jim murez: coming up with a game plan of, you know. 1004 01:32:21.840 --> 01:32:34.470 jim murez: Do we really want to have 3 lines north and 2 Lane south in the afternoon, or in the morning, or something like that, because that would make traffic flow. 1005 01:32:34.550 --> 01:32:39.420 jim murez: Can't drive drunk, that's for sure. 1006 01:32:39.660 --> 01:32:46.019 jim murez: If Caltrans was to kick in the money to put in the mitigation measures that it takes to do that 1007 01:32:47.560 --> 01:32:54.560 Evan Corrigan: if there was a train here. Sorry this 9 cyc order, but it. I think the route would just be from Alex to 1008 01:32:55.100 --> 01:32:56.799 Evan Corrigan: all the way up to 1009 01:32:57.590 --> 01:32:59.400 Evan Corrigan: this 1010 01:32:59.430 --> 01:33:01.700 Evan Corrigan: Colorado Fourth Junction. 1011 01:33:01.810 --> 01:33:05.349 jim murez: So there's also another really good route to take. 1012 01:33:05.860 --> 01:33:08.930 jim murez: and that's up the cover. Boulevard right of way. 1013 01:33:09.730 --> 01:33:18.260 jim murez: The cover Boulevard, right of way still goes from right there at the end of the 90 free way, where it you can see it going off at an angle there. 1014 01:33:18.340 --> 01:33:20.509 jim murez: the other, the other end of the 90 freeway 1015 01:33:20.870 --> 01:33:26.299 jim murez: right before you get up the overpass. There's callver. So see, call where you passed it. 1016 01:33:26.530 --> 01:33:32.039 jim murez: So this is the 90 right here. Yeah, to scroll, so we can see the other end where you get closer to the freeway. 1017 01:33:32.260 --> 01:33:37.900 jim murez: Keep going. Keep going. You had it for a second. Yeah, yeah, keep going right there. So that's call, you see? Cover below. 1018 01:33:37.930 --> 01:33:49.229 jim murez: It's right here. Yeah. Right there that's covered. Now, if you zoom out on Culver Boulevard, the railroad tracks are still in parts of Culver Boulevard that goes directly to Robertson 1019 01:33:49.790 --> 01:33:52.349 jim murez: and the expo line. 1020 01:33:53.220 --> 01:34:01.660 jim murez: And actually the next train that I think my personal belief is the next train that needs to come in is the one that goes down that corridor. 1021 01:34:01.820 --> 01:34:08.410 jim murez: because that that would connect up all the people downtown to Marina del Rey and deploy a vista. 1022 01:34:08.620 --> 01:34:14.270 Evan Corrigan: and they have this meeting here. Yeah, they already own it. It it is. It is a 1023 01:34:14.620 --> 01:34:22.910 jim murez: railroad, right of way. The bridges are still there, the whole thing, I mean. If you have parts of it, you can walk out and see. The train. Tracks are still there. 1024 01:34:23.520 --> 01:34:27.740 Selena Inouye: But actually we've been discussing that at the 1025 01:34:27.760 --> 01:34:37.729 Selena Inouye: rack, mobility and Transportation Committee about the fact that this is a Metro right of way. I know that the Del Rey Neighborhood Council was trying to advocate 1026 01:34:37.860 --> 01:34:40.369 Selena Inouye: to make it permanent parks. 1027 01:34:40.410 --> 01:34:51.359 Selena Inouye: but Metro has been pushing back on it because that that is supposed to be a connector between the expo line, and, I believe, getting people to the green line. 1028 01:34:51.610 --> 01:34:54.789 jim murez: So in I think it was in 1,900 and 1029 01:34:55.510 --> 01:34:57.500 jim murez: 92. 1030 01:34:58.240 --> 01:35:04.950 jim murez: They paid 600 million dollars, which was a lot of money in those days for that railroad right away. 1031 01:35:07.170 --> 01:35:09.649 jim murez: I mean. I went to the hearings. A guy named 1032 01:35:09.930 --> 01:35:16.689 jim murez: Barn o Zabo, or some strange Greek name like that. He was pushing the project through for Metro. 1033 01:35:17.230 --> 01:35:21.769 Evan Corrigan: So that's West east. But what about like? I feel like we don't have grade 1034 01:35:21.820 --> 01:35:23.230 Evan Corrigan: north, south. 1035 01:35:23.980 --> 01:35:30.830 jim murez: mass transit options. You're absolutely correct. I you know that. But if we could divert 1036 01:35:31.010 --> 01:35:33.379 jim murez: some portions of the traffic 1037 01:35:34.410 --> 01:35:37.410 jim murez: to other areas, we would be doing much better 1038 01:35:37.640 --> 01:35:39.849 jim murez: There's no question about, you know. 1039 01:35:40.200 --> 01:35:42.599 jim murez: Go back 40 years in time. 1040 01:35:42.620 --> 01:35:45.419 jim murez: Santa Monica put in this thing called Re Control. 1041 01:35:45.610 --> 01:35:52.060 jim murez: and nobody wanted to build residential housing in in Santa Monica. Now they've changed that since then 1042 01:35:52.100 --> 01:36:01.600 jim murez: that they're allowing. You know, they have all these high, that high density, residential structures. But as a result everybody commutes into Santa Monica. The Santa Monica Freeway was built 1043 01:36:01.800 --> 01:36:08.100 jim murez: to, you know. Help people get into Santa Monica. And when they did that they said, oh, we don't need any more housing. Everybody else can drive in. 1044 01:36:08.120 --> 01:36:11.390 jim murez: And now you look at the Santa Monica freeway that's completely backed up. 1045 01:36:12.850 --> 01:36:14.780 jim murez: It's the people from South Bay 1046 01:36:15.300 --> 01:36:16.740 jim murez: use Lincoln Boulevard. 1047 01:36:16.940 --> 01:36:19.090 Evan Corrigan: I know I mean it's just 1048 01:36:19.660 --> 01:36:23.880 Evan Corrigan: I had the option of commuting from else to go on the 4 o 5 or Lincoln 1049 01:36:24.590 --> 01:36:26.590 Evan Corrigan: like it was faster. Yeah. 1050 01:36:27.080 --> 01:36:40.040 jim murez: So the way to mitigate the part of part of the mitigation there would be to be able to show people. Hey, You can get on a bus at Lax and get to downtown Santa Monica 1051 01:36:40.710 --> 01:36:42.440 jim murez: in 20 min. 1052 01:36:42.560 --> 01:36:46.519 jim murez: instead of writing in your car, which is going to take you an hour. 1053 01:36:47.200 --> 01:36:50.429 jim murez: or you can get on it that the marina freeway. 1054 01:36:50.490 --> 01:36:57.060 jim murez: and it's going to take you if you If you're interested, Evan, sometime go to Google. Maps. 1055 01:36:57.390 --> 01:37:02.539 jim murez: put in the starting point at the end of the 93 way. Put in the ending point at Colorado. 1056 01:37:02.680 --> 01:37:04.820 jim murez: and look at it at 3 o'clock in the morning. 1057 01:37:05.750 --> 01:37:15.610 jim murez: Oh, no, I know it's like 10 min if you hit all green traffic lights, you can make it in 8 min. If you hit all red traffic lights. It takes you about 15, 1058 01:37:17.100 --> 01:37:20.119 jim murez: you know. Theoretically, if you have a 1059 01:37:20.250 --> 01:37:22.170 jim murez: a true bus lane. 1060 01:37:22.190 --> 01:37:27.750 jim murez: the bus has an electronic device that tells the traffic light to turn green, and it just keeps going. 1061 01:37:29.800 --> 01:37:32.380 Evan Corrigan: Yeah, a true brt 1062 01:37:32.400 --> 01:37:35.769 Evan Corrigan: would get me from my house to Lax, and like 1063 01:37:36.560 --> 01:37:40.220 Evan Corrigan: 10 min it'd be ridiculous. Yeah. 1064 01:37:40.700 --> 01:37:45.859 jim murez: And so I mean, you know the what's it going to take to make that happen. 1065 01:37:46.060 --> 01:37:49.510 jim murez: because that's the short term the short-range game plan 1066 01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:53.490 jim murez: is, you know, how can how can we help the city 1067 01:37:53.530 --> 01:38:03.860 jim murez: navigate through all the people that are saying, Well, you're taking away my parking in the afternoon, or you're taking away my parking in the morning, or you're not letting me make this right turn or this left turn. 1068 01:38:04.230 --> 01:38:12.789 jim murez: How can how can we help make that happen so we can improve the traffic flow, make everybody's lives safer and happier. 1069 01:38:20.480 --> 01:38:24.240 robertthibodeau: Good good stuff. Let's so we would adjourn it. 1070 01:38:24.530 --> 01:38:31.539 robertthibodeau: Yeah, good conversation. Very good. Thank you for inviting me, Robert. 1071 01:38:31.660 --> 01:38:35.049 robertthibodeau: You know it's my passion 1072 01:38:35.330 --> 01:38:41.329 robertthibodeau: you sorely missed when you're not here. All right, we're calling this meeting 1073 01:38:41.540 --> 01:38:44.800 robertthibodeau: to finish at 8 37, 1074 01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:53.469 robertthibodeau: and thanks everybody. It was a good good meeting, and we'll I guess. See you in the New Year, Happy New Year. Everybody 1075 01:38:53.750 --> 01:39:04.450 jim murez: and Don't forget candidate. Recruiting is going on now. Anybody wanting to run for the Board of the Neighborhood Council. 1076 01:39:04.550 --> 01:39:06.460 Elizabeth C.: Anyone anyone 1077 01:39:06.670 --> 01:39:18.790 jim murez: live, work, own, or have some kind of stakeholdership which could actually be. If you go to church in Venice. 1078 01:39:18.930 --> 01:39:21.600 jim murez: Well, that's 1079 01:39:24.470 --> 01:39:27.389 robertthibodeau: all right. 1080 01:39:28.140 --> 01:39:29.610 Elizabeth C.: hey? Bye, everybody, bye.