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Vicki Halliday: On the

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Vicki Halliday: tonight. The Justice Department taking action on the

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versus injecting It's a it's

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Vicki Halliday: in a statement, Attorney General Mayor Carlin, saying In part, it will continue to pay

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Vicki Halliday: cases in the communities most,

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Vicki Halliday: and play quite a series of.

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Vicki Halliday: And

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Vicki Halliday: here, including the city's main water treatment, plant

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Vicki Halliday: in a separate action

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Vicki Halliday: to the

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Vicki Halliday: Granted that order late today

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Vicki Halliday: with the system, take charge of

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Vicki Halliday: and make needed improvements. The Doj said, The city and the Mississippi State health,

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Vicki Halliday: the order, and it creates its terms. The city has repeatedly said it intends to cooperate long time, death to rest it for employed. So your family has been boiling water for years. What do you want to see happen now

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Vicki Halliday: that J. Is in here?

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Vicki Halliday: Our water to be fixed? I want it to my children to be able to turn on the Bosset and work their teams. Kristen Clark, the head of the dealt Civil Rights Division, spoke in September about ten with water crisis.

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It's home to

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fortunate number

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Vicki Halliday: the latest in a recent line of dealing destinations into environmental justice. Missions like being sewage systems in Alabama.

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Well, we will definitely in Texas tonight.

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frank murphy: Hey, Ricky?

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frank murphy: I hope my uh camera stays with me. I'm uh

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frank murphy: i'm unmuted.

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Vicki Halliday: I can hear you

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Vicki Halliday: um.

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Vicki Halliday: It all looks fine to me, let me tell. Let me tell Jim.

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frank murphy: Oh,

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Vicki Halliday: it's cold tonight.

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frank murphy: Yeah, yeah, most

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frank murphy: um. Did you want to? Uh

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frank murphy: I was going over? Um!

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frank murphy: Oh, it's going over Clarks

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frank murphy: stuff. Let me see here.

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Vicki Halliday: Yeah, I I know what to do.

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Vicki Halliday: He can't raise his hand, so i'll just recognize him when he wants to speak on um,

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Vicki Halliday: which is it? Number Eight? He wants to speak in public comment.

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Vicki Halliday: It seemed like he wanted to speak uh, so he didn't want to speak on seven. We'll see what you know he could flag us. Oh, that's right. We can't see him.

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Vicki Halliday: I have to move those photographs

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Vicki Halliday: problem. Um,

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Vicki Halliday: let's see here.

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frank murphy: I don't know if we need to. We need to put those photographs in

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Vicki Halliday: photographs. Don't really make much of a case. I don't know what is the case. It's like any encampment around. They they need to talk it through. I think. Um,

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Vicki Halliday: that's good.

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frank murphy: I certainly like to hear from the uh from the neighbors, you know. Absolutely

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frank murphy: Um,

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Vicki Halliday: By the way, I kind of close captioning on, because we've had several requests,

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Vicki Halliday: but members of the audience

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Vicki Halliday: for closed captioning. I'm seeing it on this side. Are you not seeing it

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Vicki Halliday: at the bottom? Oh, I see, I see on the top, on mine uh show captions uh participant has enabled closed captioning.

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Vicki Halliday: Um: Yeah, Because people have been requesting it.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, i'll watch for people coming in. Let's see. I could promote you

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Vicki Halliday: to co-host. Hold on here,

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I think,

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Vicki Halliday: like

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Vicki Halliday: there we go

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Vicki Halliday: now. You got privileges

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Vicki Halliday: Oh, Oh,

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frank murphy: uh, uh mickey don't give me too much privileges. Here, let's see. I just hope my camera holds out

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Vicki Halliday: what's wrong with it. Now,

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I don't know, so I think it's the same problem. And

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frank murphy: um,

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frank murphy: you know. I'm not quite sure what it is or why. But uh,

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frank murphy: it's persistent,

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Vicki Halliday: and it it's uh re occurs. You know it's sometimes there sometimes not right now. It's fine

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frank murphy: uh get pretty good, I mean, you know the the the picture is pretty good.

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frank murphy: Um! But uh, I think my laptop has got something wrong with it. I got a bug in it.

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Vicki Halliday: Maybe time for a new one.

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Vicki Halliday: Hmm. Might be time for a new one.

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frank murphy: Yeah.

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frank murphy: Yeah. Oh, there's Pat. Good! Good!

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frank murphy: Uh! He's muted right now.

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frank murphy: Hey, Pat, can you unmute?

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frank murphy: So Brian was going to try to join us if he could?

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Vicki Halliday: He is he still in the hospital.

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frank murphy: I don't know he was in yesterday.

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PatRaphael: What i'm guys.

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PatRaphael: Hey? Hey, Ben, how's it going, man?

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frank murphy: Good. Good. You're showing up great. Finally We're

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I'm: in

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frank murphy: all in touch.

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frank murphy: How are you doing?

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PatRaphael: So far? So good.

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PatRaphael: Did everybody hear me? Okay, Yeah, It was a bit of an adventure to get online. I tried to go to Mcdonald's. Then I went to Starbucks and then, now i'm at Staples. So

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PatRaphael: I was in.

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PatRaphael: They seem okay with it. They know what. I went inside and bought something. I made myself a customer, so I didn't just form their Internet

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frank murphy: how later they opened

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PatRaphael: uh they close at ten, so I I should be. And then, even after they close, if I'm already online, it won't kick me out or nothing.

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frank murphy: Yeah, Yeah,

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frank murphy: I think so,

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frank murphy: so I know uh Colette will be a little late. She told me she might be a little late coming in, and uh

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frank murphy: Stan and Liz and Jody said they'd be

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Vicki Halliday: good to be,

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frank murphy: and we'll see about Brian. Yeah,

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Vicki Halliday: E. O. N. E. E:

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frank murphy: Yeah.

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Vicki Halliday: Where? Where do you see that?

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Vicki Halliday: That was? That was

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Vicki Halliday: a donor and a donate.

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Vicki Halliday: Well, no, I just looked it up in law. That's a word.

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frank murphy: I'll have to figure out where to use it,

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Vicki Halliday: and then in French, it's done a tear.

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Vicki Halliday: Don't a tear if if you're a Dominique, if you're a dony, or don't a tear.

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frank murphy: Oh, well, let me see we got about five minutes, so i'm gonna give a heads up to

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frank murphy: uh

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frank murphy: Liz

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frank murphy: just to make sure

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frank murphy: she's Okay,

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frank murphy: And I give a heads up to

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frank murphy: Jody,

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frank murphy: it's up to

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frank murphy: okay.

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frank murphy: Nobody else joining us, either.

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Vicki Halliday: Yeah, we figured tonight would be a light one,

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frank murphy: So

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frank murphy: I guess that's proven us right.

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Vicki Halliday: But we got pat. So that's a good start. There, That's right. We got Pat.

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frank murphy: We got him up and running.

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frank murphy: We need to have a forum just to uh,

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frank murphy: so we need

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frank murphy: five.

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frank murphy: You get a quarrel

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frank murphy: uh to to uh vote on the motion, but if we,

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frank murphy: if we pass on the motion, then we can still hold a meeting.

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Vicki Halliday: We can't. I don't know about that

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frank murphy: as long as we're not voting on anything. None of those rules. Technically, that's true.

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frank murphy: It's just it's just we're taking up uh

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frank murphy: time.

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frank murphy: This is coming on so that'll get us four.

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frank murphy: And uh

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frank murphy: let's see what happens with uh

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frank murphy: Jody,

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frank murphy: in which case we can

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frank murphy: talk a little bit about where we want to go,

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frank murphy: which is, uh

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Vicki Halliday: something that we wanted to talk about. If this was a short meeting, Anyhow, That's right. Let me provide.

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Vicki Halliday: This is in there. She's coming in.

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frank murphy: Okay,

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Vicki Halliday: Pat, You got up your Christmas lights.

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PatRaphael: Well, I know. I sure Look, Christmasy.

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PatRaphael: It's that time of year. I guess

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Vicki Halliday: the rest of the year they wouldn't be Christmas light, but this time of year their Christmas lights

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myself in.

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frank murphy: I want to make sure I don't.

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frank murphy: You can hear you lose

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Elizabeth Wright: and thank you for the text, Frank. I had just fallen asleep.

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frank murphy: Yeah, we weren't gonna let you out there easy.

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Elizabeth Wright: My guest went home very early this morning.

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Vicki Halliday: Oh, uh-huh!

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frank murphy: Well, that's good. That's good!

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frank murphy: How are you

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frank murphy: you got the house to yourself?

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Elizabeth Wright: Yes,

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frank murphy: so we're uh gonna give a couple more minutes to uh see if we get Jody or um

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Vicki Halliday: or stand here. Okay,

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frank murphy: and uh,

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frank murphy: I know that i'll come in later.

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frank murphy: Oh, Jody's trying to connect so he's he's! There

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Vicki Halliday: is that his phone number the one that ends in six o five. Frank

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frank murphy: don't know. Let me see

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frank murphy: if he's on a phone or not.

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PatRaphael: Well, good news. I got accepted to the cap program for my two tickets,

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PatRaphael: so uh for the which program it's the Community assistance parking program, they call it Cap. Oh, yeah, Like like that from January. I can register my tag for another year and not have to

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PatRaphael: worry about My! How slash car getting dealt with badly.

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Vicki Halliday: That's all right. Good.

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PatRaphael: But they also told me that there is no uh. There is no

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PatRaphael: like cause they they they allow you to do volunteering in lieu of paying. But they said, there is no

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PatRaphael: uh, there's no providers on the West Side that they could except for volunteering.

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PatRaphael: So I I was thinking, maybe that's something that if

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PatRaphael: if we could have

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PatRaphael: uh

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PatRaphael: some group vetted on the West side.

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PatRaphael: If somebody were to need something like this,

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PatRaphael: Uh: yeah, because

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PatRaphael: it's It's hardly a

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PatRaphael: it. It's a big deal to be able to to, you know not not have to deal with the

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frank murphy: with some of the big money stuff when it comes to parking.

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Elizabeth Wright: If you would, if you would put that in um an agenda request

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Elizabeth Wright: to send it in.

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Elizabeth Wright: Then we can do some serious talking about it.

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PatRaphael: Okay, Okay,

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Vicki Halliday: Good idea.

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Vicki Halliday: Uh, I saw Brian's text. He's listening, but can't participate from the hospital.

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frank murphy: Okay, yeah, I got that, too. And Jodie's gonna be uh he's coming in. He said, Give him just a minute or two. He's uh messing with his Robert.

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frank murphy: Yeah. So we wish uh Brian Brian was uh in the hospital. So hopefully uh with pneumonia so hopefully pulling through. So

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frank murphy: keep him in your thoughts,

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frank murphy: and, like I said cold, that'll be in a little bit later. And uh,

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frank murphy: I Haven't heard back from Stan. He was going to join us. Uh, we'll see.

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Vicki Halliday: We'll see uh what happens there,

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frank murphy: but we have uh several participants. We've got thirty, thirteen attendees. So that's uh.

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frank murphy: That's good, very good

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Elizabeth Wright: and happy Post Thanksgiving to everybody.

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frank murphy: Yes,

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frank murphy: Brian wishes us all, and hopefully we had a

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frank murphy: good uh Thanksgiving.

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Elizabeth Wright: Oh, it's speedy recovery to him.

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frank murphy: Yeah, we need the team here.

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Elizabeth Wright: I glad it's not Covid:

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frank murphy: Yeah, yeah,

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Elizabeth Wright: that would be bad.

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Elizabeth Wright: We're worse.

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Vicki Halliday: We need one more to start correct.

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frank murphy: Yeah, I think we can probably start. I just don't think we can vote on anything.

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frank murphy: So

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frank murphy: uh we haven't hit the quorum yet we need five to get the

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frank murphy: to get over the hump.

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Elizabeth Wright: Well, it would just be a minute. Yeah,

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Vicki Halliday: now. Brian says we should all stay healthy that he's been placed in an overflow storage room with a bed.

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Vicki Halliday: Been an er for twenty-two hours. And there are no hospital beds.

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Vicki Halliday: Put me on breathing machines. I's antibiotics, and steroids

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Vicki Halliday: stay healthy.

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Elizabeth Wright: Oh, where is he?

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Vicki Halliday: Don't know what? Hospital?

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Elizabeth Wright: At the the heat of the pandemic,

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Elizabeth Wright: The Uh Cedar Sinai Marina

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Elizabeth Wright: the gift shop and the lobby were both transformed into Icu.

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Vicki Halliday: I think the hospitals were overflowing this weekend with kids with Rsv:

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frank murphy: thirty Seven a little problem with his router. But he's going to. Uh,

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frank murphy: he! He! He! He'll come on on the phone if need be. But his roder just uh just um

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Vicki Halliday: Sorry folks.

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Elizabeth Wright: As I was sitting in traffic,

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Elizabeth Wright: I was thinking that it wasn't that long ago. It took me nine minutes to get from my house to the terminal,

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Elizabeth Wright: and it took over an hour.

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Elizabeth Wright: I was going to park and wait for a text.

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Elizabeth Wright: Yeah, there you go.

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frank murphy: Yeah,

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Vicki Halliday: Understand? Right?

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frank murphy: Oh, yeah, they're stand. Okay, Good.

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frank murphy: Hey? Stan.

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Vicki Halliday: Hey? Frank? Sorry for being late. I'm: here.

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frank murphy: Um, Jody's gonna join us. He's had a little trouble with his getting connected the call that will be in later. Okay, Did you get him?

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frank murphy: And Uh and uh Colette will be in a little bit later, and uh Brian is uh,

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frank murphy: and we were just talking about that, and Brian's uh in the hospital right now uh

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frank murphy: wrestling with uh pneumonia.

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frank murphy: uh but he's checking in. He can hear us, but he can't participate.

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frank murphy: So roll call uh Frank. I'm here,

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frank murphy: Louis Don't. Leave us now. Vicki. Here,

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frank murphy: Stan,

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frank murphy: she froze.

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frank murphy: Well, Liz is here

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Vicki Halliday: promoting Jody now,

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frank murphy: and you're promoting Jody right now. Okay, good good

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Elizabeth Wright: you hear? Yes,

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frank murphy: and uh Jody.

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Jody Mortimer: Yes, all right.

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frank murphy: So um

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frank murphy: uh first item is the minutes um, the minutes from last meeting. We didn't vote on any uh motion last meeting, but the minutes are posted, and there was uh

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frank murphy: comment as to what was discussed.

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frank murphy: Any objections to the minutes.

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frank murphy: Do we have to take a uh? Do we have to vote on that? Or is that

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frank murphy: somebody? Uh I'll make the motion right to motion uh

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frank murphy: uh somebody seconded, or I'll second it. And uh anybody object,

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frank murphy: Nobody objecting. Okay. So we're good to go on that chair. Report um. Just a couple of little items on the agenda.

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frank murphy: We have some um

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frank murphy: motion that's being presented, I I put down submitted by Frank Murphy. That's incorrect that was submitted by Jodie Mortimer and Elizabeth. Right? So I just wanted to correct that upfront um. Of course, once it leaves here, it will be submitted

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frank murphy: by me to the to the um board.

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frank murphy: Um! So we don't have anybody for the homeless round table, but we do have quite a few folks that want to that Want to talk on the uh

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frank murphy: I'm. Assuming that a major portion of it is on the

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frank murphy: Flower Street uh so we're going to take the uh motion first,

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frank murphy: and then we'll do public comment, and we'll uh allow a little bit extra time unless anybody has any objection to that will allow time for that to be heard a little bit more in depth.

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frank murphy: Um! So uh the homeless roundtable not being people this time.

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frank murphy: That's for my chair report. I just have the same that I say every time is, I want to state again

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frank murphy: that homeless being accommodated on the streets and sidewalks of our community, and the city as a whole is the most immune inhumane, brutal and unsafe emergency shelter solution for both the unhouse and the house population.

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frank murphy: This is not a zero sum game jail versus street, as some would have you believe I've been aware of multiple solutions for cost-effective emergency shelter presented by the powers that be from this committee the Board members of the Bmc.

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frank murphy: And Knowledgeable and Venice knowledgeable folks from the Venice community,

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frank murphy: so that being said,

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frank murphy: I would go into the uh

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frank murphy: uh into the motion.

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frank murphy: So um

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frank murphy: uh liz or Jodie, do you want to read the motion as it stands?

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Jody Mortimer: I I do not have it in front of me.

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frank murphy: I can read it, if you like.

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Jody Mortimer: Thank you.

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frank murphy: Alright,

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frank murphy: Excuse me.

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frank murphy: I'll read the motion,

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frank murphy: whereas the original documents, such original documents, such as drivers, license, certificate of training, completion, and et cetera, are often required by prospective employers, landlords, housing providers, service providers, and et cetera

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frank murphy: and whereas homeless people are susceptible to lost and highly vulnerable to theft and robbery. Therefore the Venice Neighborhood Council request that the city of Los Angeles work with nonprofit service providers

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frank murphy: with facilities easily accessible to the Un. House to provide secure storage for original documents for unhous people.

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frank murphy: The solution to this problem can be as simple as an envelope for each, with the person's name kept in a secure area, or as complex as lockers comparable to safe deposit boxes or combination locks provided and monitored by the service provider.

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frank murphy: This would be presented to Kevin Daley on Chair of the Uh Council, City Council, Homelessness and Poverty Committee, Honorable Nithya Rama Vice Chair Councilman, by Mike Bond City Controller, one Ron Galpin.

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frank murphy: That's the substance That's the That's the

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frank murphy: the motion as presented.

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frank murphy: Um! Does anybody make a motion?

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Elizabeth Wright: I'll make the motion right.

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frank murphy: Okay,

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frank murphy: you got Jodie for a third, All right. So uh

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Vicki Halliday: public comment. Um, I see a couple of hands up here. Um,

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Vicki Halliday: uh Lisa Redmond. Go ahead, please.

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Lisa Redmond: Hi! Good evening. Um! So I don't understand what's different about this motion than the one that was already presented with the same um

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Lisa Redmond: topic. Um, it's a really really good idea, but it's a very, very bland motion, and it's about as supportive of me as putting through a motion that says, Hey, I think um.

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Lisa Redmond: The city should provide ice cream for us all after school it. If you're going to do something like this, I think there needs to be more meat to it. I think you need to have better suggestions about how it's going to be done.

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Lisa Redmond: Um as opposed to just this pie in the sky idea, because everyone has a pie in the sky idea. I think they want more meat and something that they can cling on to

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Lisa Redmond: also this motion is extremely out of touch. Um, First of all, Kevin D. Leon is no longer the chair of the Homelessness Committee. Homelessness and Poverty Committee, nith the Ramen is. He was removed from all his committee positions. Um, because of the leak

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Lisa Redmond: and the

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Lisa Redmond: that you will. Everyone knows about that. Um, I don't understand why Councilman Mike Bond, and is on there because by the time um this goes through the board and goes on, he's only going to be councilman for another few more weeks, as is also City Controller Ron Galper, which, by the way, I have no idea why he's even listed on this.

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Lisa Redmond: Um, you should be listing the vice, the deputy Mayor of homelessness. Um, and several other important people

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Lisa Redmond: that um do this. But I would really advise that you come back and have some meet to this issue like dividing how it's going to be done. And, by the way, not only do people get robbed of their belongings and their important documents. But a lot of that is, Rob, because of um Comprehensive sweeps like what happened on Flower Street yesterday. That's how people lose their documents. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Um.

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Vicki Halliday: Let's say, Nick, why don't you go ahead, please.

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Nick Antonicello: Yeah, I was gonna say pretty much what

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Nick Antonicello: What was said. I don't see any uh benefit sending motion here.

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Nick Antonicello: Hello!

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Nick Antonicello: Can you hear me? Barely

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PatRaphael: not really.

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Nick Antonicello: Can you hear me now?

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Vicki Halliday: It's it's very muted. Nick.

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Nick Antonicello: Can you hear me now?

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Nick Antonicello: The the I wanted to make was, I don't think you should pass motions

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Nick Antonicello: and send them to people who are basically laid ducks. They're going to be out of office on December the sixteenth.

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Nick Antonicello: So today is November twenty-nine

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Nick Antonicello: would be more approved to

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Nick Antonicello: to revise the motion, and I would send it to the new mayor, new Council members,

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Nick Antonicello: and then someone should actually do the homework and find out who the new committee chairs are going to be so. It's probably

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Nick Antonicello: a good idea to wait a month.

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Nick Antonicello: Figure out who is the the chairman and send these to the new Council members. It makes no sense to say anything to my phone at this point.

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Vicki Halliday: Bill. Why, don't you go ahead, please.

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bill: Are you able to hear me, we can, Bill. Thank you. Thank you. Um, I have heard um have no familiarity with, but I've heard about swashlock in Santa Monica, and I wonder if part of the

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bill: um security and uh washing arrangements that city of Santa Monica offers the announced Uh might uh shed some light on what could be done by the city of Los Angeles in terms of securing documents.

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bill: Yeah. So

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Vicki Halliday: thank you. I don't know about that program. Does anybody else?

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Elizabeth Wright: I don't.

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bill: Um, it's. It's a facility that's located uh at Olympic um

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bill: and Fourth, I've I I've passed by the facility. I guess I walked by it. I'm: surprised that Um, no one else knows about it.

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PatRaphael: That's hard to talking about.

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PatRaphael: Um, Would you say what exactly the facility is?

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frank murphy: Let's uh! There's a time limit on each person. Uh for public comment. Let's uh take that.

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frank murphy: Take that offline. If we could.

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Vicki Halliday: Is there any more public there? There are, Bill, Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Oh, thank you, uh Kolani! Why don't you go ahead, please.

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Kalani W: I agree with the last caller that this motion is owed with old names on it. I think that it should be

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Kalani W: uh sent back to Committee for further review updated with the proper names attached. We also need to check to see if our new Council member, Tracy Parks uh

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Kalani W: supports this motion, and I used to live close to the

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Kalani W: and they're supposed to

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Kalani W: exposition. Metro and I do know that the homeless often used to use the lockers there to store their things.

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Kalani W: The problem with that was that other homeless people would break into those lockers and steal from

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Kalani W: fellow, homeless people. So

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Kalani W: I think that in this day of technology all of their

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Kalani W: sensitive items documents should be scanned and held by a case manager, because many of our homeless have case managers, especially if they're receiving Ssi or any type of public service. Um, you know Saint Joseph has is uh provides a lot of case management.

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Kalani W: But, um!

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Kalani W: That is something that we should be looking at investing in is scanning all of their documents so that they, they um will not be held responsible. But that being said, I am all for mandating treatment, i'm tired of coding um our homeless.

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Kalani W: I recently lost a loved one with an addiction issue. He was housed. I could not mandate him to treatment, and he literally drank himself to death at age sixty-seven. So I'm: on a. We need to start mandating treatment. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: That's the under public comment. Right?

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frank murphy: Okay, Um.

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frank murphy: So um

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frank murphy: to start on committee discussion.

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frank murphy: I understand what Lisa and Nick were saying. Um uh the the the way that I see this is Yes, it is pie in the sky, but it's not. It's actually

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frank murphy: asking the service providers who should have the know how and the where. With all to do this,

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frank murphy: do it

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frank murphy: It's not a open question. I mean it's it's it's uh, you know. I'm not going to tell them how they do it,

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frank murphy: or would I? You know, Would I want it because they they've got their own methodology, and each one is probably a little bit different. So if we get too specific, we're not

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frank murphy: uh so uh yes, bland and fine. The sky is uh is is fair enough, but it's a request to do something specific,

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frank murphy: principally documents. So I've seen this happen for many times before where the police go in to work with somebody who's on the street. The person cannot identify themselves. They're not aware of where they are, what their surroundings are, and the police are hamstrung to try to

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frank murphy: to uh help these folks. So there's got to be some way that we can

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frank murphy: that something like this can take place

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frank murphy: so that people can identify themselves, whether it's with the police, whether it's with the service providers, as people, you know, get

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frank murphy: documents stolen or documents get displaced.

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frank murphy: Then they can't get jobs. They can't do what are what they have to do. This not. It's a very simple

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frank murphy: on a very complex request, and I think it the the way we have it laid out is pretty good. Now, as to the

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frank murphy: as to the Uh people to identify.

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frank murphy: I understand that we could always wait. But you know, if my bonnet gets this which he won't, because I think he'll be out of office by the time the Board takes it,

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frank murphy: and if we haven't go in front of the board, they should be able to change the uh

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frank murphy: change. The um

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frank murphy: principal people that need to be. Uh uh, um!

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frank murphy: That need to have this.

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frank murphy: Uh. So if Mike Bottoms out of office at that time, it will be,

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frank murphy: it will be Tracy that gets it. Now, this is this is designed to give to Tracy or to give to Mike for them to react to it.

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frank murphy: They can do as they please, but it's not something where i'm doing something for Mike Bonn. I'm doing something that as a community we're giving to my bottom, so it's a little bit backwards on that. But that's my comments to that. But I thought those were pretty good. Um,

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frank murphy: uh, I mean all of those comments were uh on the mark. And uh yes, we need to. Uh.

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frank murphy: This time of transition is going to be a little difficult, but I think we need to get it up rather than later. Not hold off for another month. I don't think it's asking too much.

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frank murphy: That's my comment.

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frank murphy: Anybody else.

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Vicki Halliday: I think. Go with it, and you know the names can be updated.

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PatRaphael: there, there is a thing that they, Joseph? Already? Does they

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PatRaphael: manage people's mail they they they! They have a

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PatRaphael: and see if there's any mail in your mailbox right? So the way they set it up. If you if you have mail, come in, and you're not there to receive it. They just hold it in a mailbox for you.

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PatRaphael: So it seems like this is something that should be simple enough

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PatRaphael: for a service provider like St. Joseph, that already has

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PatRaphael: a way to file stuff for people

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PatRaphael: to just expand it to the

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PatRaphael: population that wants to have their things do it over there right? Because this is not a solution that I think would work for everybody, because not everybody really wants or needs their documents held by a third party like this, but the ones that need it.

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PatRaphael: I I don't know. I don't know why this is this is something that's that they're not even already doing. I mean, if they were to put themselves in the shoes of the people that they're serving

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PatRaphael: uh, knowing how important it is to have

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PatRaphael: some

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PatRaphael: original important documents like, I don't think, just scanning it would help like the like. The The the of the community told us, because often you need original documents for

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PatRaphael: first, before

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PatRaphael: for certain things that needs to get done. So

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PatRaphael: uh so how would we?

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PatRaphael: I don't want to use the word compell, but I would we Uh

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PatRaphael: what, what? What's the What's the process that would make service provider like St. Choose this or or any of the other one better out here. What would make them do this if we decided this was a good idea, and it was voted for, and then it made it all all the way

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PatRaphael: uh through the committee. I mean, I I

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PatRaphael: that that's my comment.

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Vicki Halliday: We would make them actually do it.

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frank murphy: Go ahead.

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Vicki Halliday: I I think that

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Vicki Halliday: the loss of these important documents and papers and I've heard lots of people on the street talk about how they've lost or had them stolen, and how it will take weeks and or months to replace those things. So everything for them gets stalled.

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Vicki Halliday: Their whole process can get stalled by the loss of this that

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Vicki Halliday: should do it right there. If If there's a a new emphasis on getting people off the street and getting them into housing.

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Vicki Halliday: You know their paperwork has to be in order and protect it

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Vicki Halliday: so hopefully, some kind of service can be offered

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frank murphy: also. Uh Pat,

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frank murphy: you can't dictate

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frank murphy: who will do what?

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frank murphy: That's not our role. We're just highlighting this to get it in front of folks that actually can

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frank murphy: make this.

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frank murphy: Yeah.

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Jody Mortimer: Oh, okay,

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Vicki Halliday: so do I need to put in an amendment to change the names,

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frank murphy: or can that just be done?

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frank murphy: The Council person

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frank murphy: uh we could amended to change uh Nithya Rama as the chair.

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frank murphy: Um, but I don't know I mean It's gonna get to her, anyhow. I'm not sure that there's any need for an amendment. Ron Galpin's gonna be out, but he's not out right now,

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frank murphy: you know.

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frank murphy: So I would say, leave it the same way. And then when we. When when it comes up to addcom, we can change the the names on there. It's perfectly reasonable, I think.

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frank murphy: Um, all right,

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Vicki Halliday: so we both

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frank murphy: let's go to vote, then

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frank murphy: Well, um,

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frank murphy: I vote yes to the motion.

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frank murphy: Um, pat,

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PatRaphael: I vote. Yes,

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frank murphy: Liz.

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Elizabeth Wright: Yes,

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Vicki Halliday: Vicki. Yes,

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frank murphy: Stan.

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Ansar Muhammad: Yes,

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frank murphy: Jodie.

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Jody Mortimer: Yes,

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frank murphy: alright. So that's that's uh unanimous of the folks that are attending.

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frank murphy: So uh, now we go to um

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frank murphy: public comment.

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frank murphy: So we have um,

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Vicki Halliday: twenty uh i'll. I'll I'll I'll do it right? Okay? Okay. Um,

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Jody Mortimer: that is noreen a med

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Vicki Halliday: noreen. Please go ahead.

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Noreen Ahmed: Hi: Thanks. Yeah. I'm A: I'm a resident over here, and I um. I work as a case manager in Santel and I. I have been avoiding these meetings because i'll be honest. I don't mean to diminish anyone here, but they they feel kind of out of touch. Um! And i'm feeling that a little bit right now to really just because um, if there's a round table which I was excited about. Um,

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Noreen Ahmed: you know, if people aren't able to make it to this, then we have to figure out how to make sure to get a meeting like this to those voices. Um! What I see with this last measure that you just talked about it is Well, it's it's meant intentioned with something that's important. There are a lot of missing details with it, and those details are important of considering where what the logistics look like for it. And it's,

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Noreen Ahmed: you know. I just I i'm back on this meeting right now, because I think neighborhood councils have the potential to be really impactful. If they're really getting the voices of the individuals are trying to help. So Homelessness Committee really should be capturing the voices, the people who are in this community, and and so a measure like that should be demonstrating how many people you talk to who have said that this is their highest priority; and if it's not their highest priority. Then there should be some way of capturing that, too. And you're not going to get the voices of everybody is not going to be unanimous, but

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Noreen Ahmed: something I would want to see with this neighborhood Council, and which would help me feel more comfortable joining. This is seeing that it's, or being coming to more of these is to just see more of that voice being captured and and and figuring out how you get to individuals who are impacted.

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Vicki Halliday: But thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Um. Next Elizabeth Williams. Go ahead, please.

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Elizabeth Williams: Hi! Good evening uh! My name is Elizabeth Williams. I'm a resident of Venice. Since the eighties, and I've lived on Flower Avenue for twenty two years.

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Elizabeth Williams: I'm not a Nimby. I don't criminalize homelessness. I was aided by food stamps, and welfare, myself growing up and I support and believe in social services.

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Elizabeth Williams: I cannot, however, support this continued dogma of fighting to let people live to this extreme on our streets. I'm not okay with the enablement approach. That's been the standard practice when, in address addressing encampments over the past five or six years, one,

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Elizabeth Williams: although homeless, this is not new to Venice

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Elizabeth Williams: on housed people are not new to Venice. This level of street living, the structures, the refuse blatant drug use, prostitution and other nefarious activities that I'm personally experiencing daily

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Elizabeth Williams: day in and day out on my street, has been overrunning our neighborhood. Year by year it intensifies what goes on with the Flower Avenue encampment has been frightening for myself for my neighbors for multiple years. Now it's degrading my sanity.

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Elizabeth Williams: It's bringing me to tears in front of people.

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Elizabeth Williams: It's taking over my life in a way that I I don't understand. I can't comprehend my quality of life,

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Elizabeth Williams: and it's dangerous for all of us and the people living on the street most of all.

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Elizabeth Williams: I'm. Here tonight to implore you to support and forcing boundaries and community protections for us all, and not simply repeating the housing first refrain as the answer. There must be legal guidelines. There's got to be some bumpers on this one hundred and fifty

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Elizabeth Williams: something to keep it so that we can coexist and actually help each other,

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Elizabeth Williams: such as what's included in ordinance forty, one hundred and eighteen, because my situation continues to worsen, and this is being repeated all over the city.

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Elizabeth Williams: Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Elizabeth.

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Vicki Halliday: Uh, next, Nick, Would you like to go ahead?

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PatRaphael: I really believe that the homeless

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Nick Antonicello: um speaker as well as I can I I I know that it,

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anyway.

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Nick Antonicello: What I wanted to make was that

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Nick Antonicello: my

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Nick Antonicello: try to solve the homeless issue. It's not something that you can do, anyway, but to address how homelessness affects,

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Nick Antonicello: and it comes to the comments of the previous speaker.

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Nick Antonicello: I think you need to have the lens of? Are you in the values and the settings

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Nick Antonicello: the people that you represent, and to try to fix homelessness is not the objective of the committee, I think Round hand is great, and bringing in the find a homeless. This is important, but reflecting the values and and what the people of Venice one, I think, is what most important thanks

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Vicki Halliday: in it.

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Vicki Halliday: Um, Clark Brown. Um! You want to talk now

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Clark Brown: uh the city does comprehensive, clean ups of homeless encampments in residential neighborhoods. The city's recent comprehensive, clean up on flower avenue, demonstrates these clean ups provide only limited benefits for the neighborhoods, for they are carried out.

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Clark Brown: Yesterday, around nine, thirty in the morning the Department of Sanitation started a clean up of the homeless encampment on flower

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Clark Brown: department, brought trucks and other heavy heavy equipment, and over a dozen workers the homeless people piled their belongings on bikes and strollers and push them around the corner to Lincoln before the city could uh locate or can load it into its trucks. Then the sanitation people left.

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Clark Brown: By three o'clock the same day the homeless people moved all their belongings back to Flower Avenue, where they now cover the parkland and sidewalk, just as they had before. The only viable solution to the flower encampment, and the other encampments on the west side is to establish sites for safe camping and tiny homes

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Clark Brown: where the homeless can be relocated and service. Fortunately there are sites around Lax, where safe camping and tiny homes can be quickly developed and built, and the city should do this.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Clark. Um!

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Vicki Halliday: And like it. Why, don't you go ahead? Please stand

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Daniel Liggett: here I am I I don't have much to say tonight uh other than seconding what the Elizabeth Williams said, and what Nick said, and where Clark just said It's just, you know we, as someone said last week on the Council on the meeting

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Daniel Liggett: uh moving these people around, they lose their sense of community. But where is our sense of community? Is homeowners and renters living amongst

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Daniel Liggett: these these encampments and the the lawlessness we have to huddle in our homes. Well, they're taking taking over our street. We can't walk down our street. I don't mean every street, but I mean our street. As Elizabeth said, we can't walk to the corner without

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Daniel Liggett: fearing to be, you know, being attacked, our situation is different. It's not people

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Daniel Liggett: that

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Daniel Liggett: haven't been offered a place to stay. Haven't been offered a place to live. These people want to be on the street doing their

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Daniel Liggett: they're deep. They're drugs. They're stealing their bicycles, whatever it is.

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Daniel Liggett: Uh, it's just It's just going on way too long on our black, and it's very unfair for us.

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Daniel Liggett: And Besides, there's a business on the corn that wants to open up, too.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Dan.

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Vicki Halliday: Um

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Vicki Halliday: Lisa Redmond, Go ahead, please.

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Lisa Redmond: Um! Here's a fun fact.

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Lisa Redmond: Housing stops homelessness,

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Lisa Redmond: and

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Lisa Redmond: every evening, Frank, you put out the same chair. Report about how awful it is now. People living on the street as a solution, and I absolutely agree. Everybody agrees so. I don't understand why this committee isn't

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Lisa Redmond: balls to the wall writing motions about demanding more housing, demanding more solutions to find it instead. You know you don't, and

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Lisa Redmond: I I really feel for the people on Flower, and I understand how difficult that is. But if they get there um. People moved.

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Lisa Redmond: Just go over to Indiana or to

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Lisa Redmond: another street.

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Lisa Redmond: If nothing gets solved we need housing, and we should all be demanding for it, and as much as what Um

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Lisa Redmond: Nick said about that this residents want. Let's not forget that people that are on house and sleeping here. They are also Venice residents, and they demand and need attention and support as well. Um,

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Lisa Redmond: there's gotta be solutions for everybody but us, just standing around and complaining about it to each other isn't working. So I suggest maybe I need to start writing motions, because this committee isn't doing it

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Lisa Redmond: Um, but let's try and start pushing some solutions and demanding like this earlier motion, you said, At least we get it so that they know we want something. Well, let's get more motions out there demanding. We want housing demand, and we want solutions

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Lisa Redmond: something. Let's find ways to get people off the street and keep everybody happy.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Lisa.

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Vicki Halliday: Uh Kolani. Why, don't you go ahead, please.

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Kalani W: I moved here when I was eighteen years old. I did not have any expectation that I had a right to live at the beach in the most expensive part of town I lived in Hawthorne. I worked, I put myself through college, and

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Kalani W: through hard work I was able to afford moving closer to the west side.

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Kalani W: It is not anyone's right to live in the most expensive part of town.

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Kalani W: You, if you want

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Kalani W: a place to live, find a roommate,

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Kalani W: or live where you can afford to live. Yes, we have an affordable housing issue. We are working on that. But many, if many of our homeless are have mental health and drug abuse issues,

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Kalani W: but the people people like the previous caller, refused to admit that they think it's a housing issue. As I stated earlier, I lost a loved one. Due to addiction he was how he he! There was no way

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Kalani W: I could convince him to get help. He had insurance. We need to start mandating treatment. Both of our mayoral candidates talked about

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Kalani W: fifteen thousand beds, thirty thousand for Caruso. They were talking about beds with wraparound services, and that is what we need to start focusing on building

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Kalani W: facilities, to treat people for the illnesses that cause them to choose living on squatting on the streets. They are not our neighbors. They are squatters on our streets, and we need to start

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Kalani W: stop coddling them because calling them for the last twenty years since the first tent went up under the four or five when I lived in that area

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Kalani W: to now has not worked. We've provided showers, laundry services. Um

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Kalani W: mental health services on the street, which are quite expensive. Nothing has worked, so we need to stop coding, and we need to start with the tough love and that involves

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Kalani W: building the facilities with beds and wrap around services and start mandating them into treatment. We once had a speaker at the Forum, where he went through rehab seven times before he got his act together.

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Kalani W: But he finally got his act together,

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Kalani W: and we need to start mandating treatment,

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Kalani W: expecting people with these issues to get up one day because they have a roof over their head and say, Oh, yeah, I have a problem. I need to get help. That is Bonkers. We need to get real and hopefully our new politicians will

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Kalani W: start mandating treatment. We've started with Cares Court, so our Governor people are leaning in that direction. W. You know the last election is proven that people are have more in common. We are not extreme on either end. We want sensible treatment,

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Kalani W: and most of us are willing to open our wallets and pay for these treatments. But we're fighting these extremes that are like. Now we've got to call them our on house neighbors. We shouldn't be calling them homeless because it hurts their feelings.

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Kalani W: Well, we're trying to get them help. I don't think they care about what we're calling them.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Um. Lion. You want to go ahead, please.

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LIONEL: Yeah, thank you. Board Member um. Vicki is one item. Are we on, or are we general public comment?

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LIONEL: Okay, perfect timing? Yes, um. Regarding about the homelessness crisis, I've been involved actively involved in the city of La I'm. A public advocate myself. I done research on homelessness,

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LIONEL: and I've heard many people speak during city council at City Hall, Icon to City Hall today and every month, and for the past year or so, and I'm actively listening. And here's what I had to say.

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LIONEL: The homelessness crisis is due to variety of reasons, economic reasons,

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LIONEL: maybe in some situations substance abuse, where, you know, like the previous caller said, You know they know somebody who's house, and they become a ticket to drug, chopping with them, and they lose your jobs, and they cost things like that. It's not the only um thing and um domestic violence. Maybe a

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LIONEL: uh member like a partner is forced to leave, and they become homeless. And you know, like I said, uh economic reasons cost of living. The cost to rent mortgage has gone up, and wages cannot keep up. So that's the economic California, so the

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LIONEL: it's the most expensive state in a union,

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LIONEL: as we all know, and Um and and certain parts of La City or La County are more, more, are much more expensive than other parts of the city, of course, and

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LIONEL: and many of the well um that many of the jobs that do pay well are not, you know not. Everyone has access to those jobs, and many of them work at jobs are low wage. Uh, then, I do not provide sufficient benefits, you know, for parents or other benefits

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LIONEL: and paid sick leave things like that and the cost of fuel. It's very expensive, and

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LIONEL: some people become homeless, because maybe they have a medical condition, maybe that, and they can no longer work because of, you know, a of a medical issue. So they and they're fired from their jobs and and slowly they, they cannot afford the utilities. So there's It's a variety of reasons,

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LIONEL: and it hurts me to see other board members across the of La and other residents on both sides. People from you know, fighting the right and the left are going fighting, you know. Um, I think.

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LIONEL: And what I said in the past is that even District six where I live in, we still have a homelessness crisis as well, and I've told Nuri Martin before she resigned,

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LIONEL: that each district. She provide public housing, so that the House neighbors are not forced to live across going district to district, because many residents do get upset about that. Any Council members are not helping by force it by forcing on house people to live

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LIONEL: uh from district to district. So each council This we should provide public housing, the all well residents of La. So each at all comes with this all fifteen take action work together and provide public housing. I'm. Pretty sure we could reduce or minimize to some extent

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LIONEL: the number of on house individuals who are living so, and and we shall also keep in mind that Yes, there are some individuals who have a mental

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LIONEL: um condition that's much more difficult for them to get housing, because they don't know how to rationalize. They may need more intensive care. So this is why I would like to see the department of Mental Health County um to get more funding

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LIONEL: from the point of supervisors in order to provide specialized care for these individuals. I think those are the most difficult ones to provide to get housing because of the what they're going through mentally. You know what? Um. So that includes my comment. Sorry

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Vicki Halliday: uh, Elizabeth, Go ahead, please.

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Elisabetta Mauri: Uh, hi! I'm Elizabetha Maori, and I have lived on flowers for many years, starting in the nineties. I'm. Going back to the flower and cabin. I do not live on flower now, but I have many, many friends, and I still on a property there which I love. And I love flower.

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Elisabetta Mauri: I just want to say loud once again that I've seen for the last ten years, maybe seven. But I think it's close to ten years that the city of La as a loud flower to become a filthy and dangerous place Once in a while there is a comprehensive clean up,

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Elisabetta Mauri: which is not helping at all. Few minutes after the clean up is done, the incumbent is back as it was before. So it's not working. It is so unfair to force residents to live under this condition

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Elisabetta Mauri: erez agmoni, Mike Boning and Karen boss say that moving incumbent from one street to another is useless. I agree with that.

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Elisabetta Mauri: There should be no in common. There should be no homeless people should have a how, not housing, but places to stay. I don't believe that housing is the solution, but i'm now expressing a thought that I have,

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Elisabetta Mauri: and I think, Um, because the city is totally unable to solve this crisis. The city is totally incompetent, I think, and I propose that the incumbents are actually rotated and moved periodically from street to street,

582
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Elisabetta Mauri: so that everyone, especially the Mayor, and especially all the Council members, can experience firsthand the unfairness and the unjust condition they impose on us,

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Elisabetta Mauri: On, on, citizen like us to leave. Enough is enough. It has been ten years, and I am disgusted By the way. Los Angeles is unable to solve this situation. No country in the world, no country in the world has encountered

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Elisabetta Mauri: full of trash, full of shit I've been. I found, the human fees in front of my. The garage in the alley in front of the house, and homeless to down, is spent and shit on my feet. I am sick of this. There is no country in the world, so

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Elisabetta Mauri: something must be done, and housing is not the solution. Yes, everybody needs to as a bed, but you cannot expect to have housing for everybody, especially when they all come from all over the United States. It's unfair. It is unfair, so Please

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Elisabetta Mauri: rotate the incumbents next month. Bring the flower incumbent in front of Boning's house,

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Elisabetta Mauri: you know, in front of Karen Boss House, in front of every other people not just us. Please do something. This cannot go on. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thanks. Elizabetha. Um last hand up Is Lisa Scott. Lisa. Go ahead, please.

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Lisa Scott: Thanks.

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Lisa Scott: Yeah. Hi, Lisa. Okay, great. Well, I just I just want to make a comment uh to say that, you know I've been studying uh housing in the homeless issue here in La for a long time, and I just want to say that mental illness and drug addiction is not the cause of homelessness.

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Lisa Scott: We know this because many people with mental illness and drug addiction are actually housed.

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Lisa Scott: The cause of homelessness is a lack of housing. If you suffer with mental illness or drug addiction. You may be at higher risk of becoming homeless, because many many of us live with housing and security. One,

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Lisa Scott: many, you know, for many in the city housing is precarious. I have experienced this myself. We may be just one bad event away from losing the roof over our head, and then we have people claiming that it's. You know our fault for being without housing

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Lisa Scott: um. You know we can expect to have housing for everyone. I think that's you know a really defeatist attitude to say. Well, you know, we just can't have housing for everyone.

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Lisa Scott: Um, we really really can, and I will. Um just urge everybody to to start thinking creatively to start looking at the folks that are on the street as people who need. You know our understanding that

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Lisa Scott: you know we're blaming the victim when we say that the drug addiction and mental illness is the cause of housing, it's not because if we had enough housing, we could bring those folks inside. And again, there are plenty of people with mental illness and drug addiction who actually do have housing.

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Lisa Scott: So if that was the cause of housing. Why do they have housing so? Just something for everybody to think about? And I really appreciate your time.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Uh, a couple of other hands have gone up.

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Vicki Halliday: Uh, Rosa, Would you like to speak next?

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Rosa Benitez: Yes, please. Thank you. Uh, thank you. Yeah, i'm. I'm just going to uh say this I I don't. I mean, I don't want to say the same thing. Everybody has said, because it is um

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Rosa Benitez: it? It's amazing what's happening here. Uh I would just be repeating, Um, i'm gonna say I've lived here for over thirty years on flower avenue. Um, I've raised my kids here, and I have not. We've seen many things, but I have not seen what is happening now.

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Rosa Benitez: Um, uh, it is. It is really sad that this people are here. Um, but we've had to have many changes done to our house because our house has been broken into um. There has been defecation uh many times. We have to clean up.

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Rosa Benitez: Um I had done. I have. I have to have done many things to our house to keep us safe. Um! I have a three and a half year old granddaughter with us that I cannot even take outside to play. We used to go up and down the street. I can't do that anymore.

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Rosa Benitez: Um, it's just so unsafe, and it's it's really not fair, and it's so true that uh this, that the the people have No, we have the clean ups, and it's really exciting. We're you know, we're seeing something new. Uh, maybe this time it's going to happen. And uh, we're going to be okay now, but it keeps coming back to the same thing. You know. They come back and and everything is the same. We're not. We're not feeling safe, so I big uh

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Rosa Benitez: you to please do something. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Rosa.

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Vicki Halliday: Uh Rosa, was our last public commenter, so

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frank murphy: we can move to any board Comment: Now about this.

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Uh?

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Vicki Halliday: And Stan had his hands up and go first and go ahead.

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Ansar Muhammad: Yeah, this is pretty

612
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Ansar Muhammad: deep. You listen to everybody's opinion,

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Ansar Muhammad: and everybody's point of view.

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Ansar Muhammad: I know Clark could mention something. I hope we can draft up a motion, maybe, to

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Ansar Muhammad: look at

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the tiny home concept and look at

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Ansar Muhammad: uh campground or location

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Ansar Muhammad: where the homeless folks can all be.

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Ansar Muhammad: Uh. The more I think about it, You know

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Ansar Muhammad: people are saying housing, housing, which,

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Ansar Muhammad: but as a recovering addict myself,

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Ansar Muhammad: I don't care how much housing

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Ansar Muhammad: you offered me in the eighties.

624
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Ansar Muhammad: I'm going to find myself in the streets getting hot,

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Ansar Muhammad: and I believe that's what we're dealing with. We're dealing with

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Ansar Muhammad: a segment of our community Who was just,

627
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Ansar Muhammad: how do they mine

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Ansar Muhammad: with the drugs?

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Ansar Muhammad: And this is the population that's in the homeless and campus that we have to address, because this is what's driving the violence.

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Ansar Muhammad: If a person is homeless because they lost a job. That's one thing.

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Ansar Muhammad: What if a person is living on the street to get high?

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Ansar Muhammad: That's another thing.

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Ansar Muhammad: And so if we dried up the drug trade, the open market drug trade on Flower, South Dennis, and other locations.

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The encampment will go away overnight,

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Ansar Muhammad: but no one is seemingly willing to address that part of it,

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Ansar Muhammad: and I believe that's what we should be rapping our heads around it. How do we address the open drug market

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Ansar Muhammad: that's calls, and these people to be in a zombie state. If we walked on flower tonight at one o'clock, two o'clock in the morning,

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Ansar Muhammad: you're gonna see a zombie state. You might see it right now, depending on how late it is. So i'm hoping we could get to that, because once we start really having that intentional conversation about the drugs

639
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Ansar Muhammad: that's flowing through these and campus, and how many of these folks is really addicted? How many of them is really ready to clean up

640
01:23:02.140 --> 01:23:11.570
Ansar Muhammad: because we can keep talking about the housing problem. But again you can build on this for years. You can build a mansion

641
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Ansar Muhammad: on flowers. Say, I want all you guys, it's on the in canvas to go into this mansion.

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01:23:16.300 --> 01:23:22.559
Ansar Muhammad: Two things going to happen Either they going to turn that mansion out. Are they going to deny going into the mansion for

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Ansar Muhammad: housing because they want to be on the street to get hot. So I I hope and pray that we can really, as a as a community, collectively

644
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Ansar Muhammad: create a coalition of people. The house, as well as to unhouse, have a real conversation about the pilots

645
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Ansar Muhammad: and the drugs. If we narrow this thing down,

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Ansar Muhammad: we'll be able to really turn the court on this thing, but it's frightening to some people to deal with that part of it.

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Ansar Muhammad: They are they mine,

648
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Ansar Muhammad: and it's met, and it's fentanyl this to be quite out. It's a little hero,

649
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Ansar Muhammad: but it's mainly meth and fitting all this really at all these in canvas, not to mention the gang element, not to mention the prostitution. So,

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Ansar Muhammad: as a committee, I think in the future we should really have these these type of conversations, but to keep here in housing housing, if that was the solution. Ladies in General

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Ansar Muhammad: Flower wouldn't be the way it is right now. So uh South Venice wouldn't be the way it is Hampton, Third Street. This would not be

652
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Ansar Muhammad: so. We know that that's not the

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Ansar Muhammad: final. That's not the solution to what we deal with,

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Ansar Muhammad: and my humble opinion as a recovered at we're dealing with individuals who really want to be on the street, to continue to freely get high without any,

655
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Ansar Muhammad: because law enforcement is not doing anything. They do not have any recourse,

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Ansar Muhammad: and I think that's what we really need to be wrapping our hands around is how do we address that segment of the homeless population in Venice? And let's deal with them,

657
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Ansar Muhammad: but i'm deal with it the best you will. Some of you all know what I do, but i'm deal with it the best I can, but it really is a sad man to keep hearing that housing is the solution. No housing is in the center, no doubt. Once I got cleaned up.

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Ansar Muhammad: Yes, I needed a big hit. Yes, I needed a home,

659
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Ansar Muhammad: but I had to get cleaned up first.

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Ansar Muhammad: Relapses after relapses after relapses after relapses was put out. But Mother House six, seven, four, seven, one. I was home as I was on the street. But guess what?

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Ansar Muhammad: That's where I want it to be. Why?

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Ansar Muhammad: Because I want it to get hot.

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Ansar Muhammad: Why? Because I was addicted,

664
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Ansar Muhammad: and I guarantee you we can have these conversations with the homeless folks that's out there like that. They will tell you

665
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Ansar Muhammad: I really have a problem.

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Ansar Muhammad: And this is why i'm out here. It's not about a house.

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Ansar Muhammad: I really have a problem with I'm struggling with this math

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01:26:18.780 --> 01:26:25.370
Ansar Muhammad: or this fitting all. Now, can y'all help me get off this stuff. So when when Clark said, we need to have

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Ansar Muhammad: these type of facilities, and and somebody else mentioned rehab. I think that's what we should really be talking about. How do we get a person to consider. Not that they're going to say yes to this. But how we? How do we, as a group,

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Ansar Muhammad: get folks to consider getting sober?

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Ansar Muhammad: So thank you

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Ansar Muhammad: uh for this conversation tonight, Love you guys.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Stan.

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Vicki Halliday: I was right.

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Elizabeth Wright: First. I would like to ask Sten to submit a motion to uh

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Elizabeth Wright: the group, so we can actually discuss this thing. And uh,

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Elizabeth Wright: maybe we can come up with some ideas of how to get the city to to focus on the math and the fentanyl

678
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Ansar Muhammad: have you on suppression,

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But

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Ansar Muhammad: I know what they did to us when we was on the street.

681
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Ansar Muhammad: They will send informants. They will send undercovers

682
01:27:31.100 --> 01:27:34.429
Ansar Muhammad: and hell. I caught a case at fifteen,

683
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Ansar Muhammad: selling some marijuana over there on a

684
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Ansar Muhammad: on six and sunset.

685
01:27:39.900 --> 01:27:43.140
Ansar Muhammad: Now that stopped me from going to that location.

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Ansar Muhammad: I never went back. But the point I'm trying to make is law. Enforcement should be in this conversation

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Ansar Muhammad: very soon, because you have by you have right now you you have a criminal element,

688
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Elizabeth Wright: and also I would like to have make a a brief comment about uh,

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Elizabeth Wright: excuse me.

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Elizabeth Wright: Um, I I would like to make a brief comment about lax

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Elizabeth Wright: um.

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Elizabeth Wright: The The great fields at lax

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Elizabeth Wright: that people keep referring to as

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Elizabeth Wright: that's where the homeless can be put.

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Elizabeth Wright: The bottom line is they cannot.

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Elizabeth Wright: The land was purchased

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Elizabeth Wright: because it was unlivable.

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Elizabeth Wright: That's how they got the uh eminent domain.

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Elizabeth Wright: You can't undo it and say, Okay, it's livable.

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Elizabeth Wright: You just can't.

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Elizabeth Wright: Not without nine billion lawsuits

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Elizabeth Wright: from the the people who were forced out.

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Ansar Muhammad: That is my comment about the lax property.

704
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Ansar Muhammad: But I was told that

705
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Ansar Muhammad: Spy, whoever is the manager for that facility on Main Street is doing a

706
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Ansar Muhammad: terrible job.

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Ansar Muhammad: Okay, I think we should.

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Ansar Muhammad: Is it is it who

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Ansar Muhammad: it's terrible job, and I think it's a facility like that. If we go back to where Clark is saying, we should really intentionally have a conversation about. How is that facility being managed? How is that facility being operated? And what can we do to better

710
01:29:49.700 --> 01:29:54.799
Ansar Muhammad: run that facility over there? Because, truthfully speaking, that that could be the location

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01:29:54.820 --> 01:29:56.230
Ansar Muhammad: immediately

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Ansar Muhammad: right; that these folks on flowers in South Venice and Hampton and and Thursday they can go there if it If there was a way we can look at this,

713
01:30:07.000 --> 01:30:13.740
Ansar Muhammad: maybe that can be the location to have the tiny homes. We even have have tents set up in the parking lot area,

714
01:30:13.810 --> 01:30:19.039
Ansar Muhammad: and folks can go there and be there opposing to being out in front of people's houses.

715
01:30:19.140 --> 01:30:23.909
Ansar Muhammad: But I was just told earlier today by somebody that's on the inside.

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Ansar Muhammad: You got people over there. Hold in

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Vicki Halliday: you, do I? Cause I will. I'm sitting fifty feet from it all the time.

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01:30:33.650 --> 01:30:36.229
Ansar Muhammad: Yeah, yeah, we need to do something about that,

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Vicki Halliday: you know. Um,

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Vicki Halliday: you know the least renewal is a um city council in it back to, I think budget and finance um before it's approved.

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Vicki Halliday: It's got to be run better, you know. I understand that they send the lease. It makes sense. The facility is there, but it's got to be run better. I mean the what goes on there.

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Vicki Halliday: It's twenty, four over seven,

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Vicki Halliday: and I will admit lately. I don't know where it's coming from, but it's that direction,

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Vicki Halliday: because I've been getting up really early about six o'clock every morning. If you go out in the yard. The smell of

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Vicki Halliday: um, meth, or fentanyl, whichever the one is, it smells like an electrical fire. Uh, and chemicals uh, it's predominant

726
01:31:29.470 --> 01:31:41.329
Vicki Halliday: early in the morning, and it it it dissipates after a while. But you really think you know, and I've asked people what is the smell? And they said, Oh, that's you know they're smoking. Um,

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Vicki Halliday: so it's just all around, you know. I that's a prime piece of property. It needs Something needs to be there like It's there now, but it's got to be run right.

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Ansar Muhammad: Well, I know one thing. If you have people like myself and others from Venice running them type of spots. It'll be an enforcement, or

729
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Ansar Muhammad: that's what's missing. There is no enforcement, or i'm nowhere in the community, because there is nobody in the community that is working for these establishments that is so so called, doing housing, you know, or not housing, but providing home and services to the people That's home.

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Vicki Halliday: They don't hire people locally, and it's It's sad to see it right. But anyway, I mean I sort of hold them right. Yeah, I so um empathize with the people on flower because we have similar here. Um, I mean the break-ins are constant,

731
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Vicki Halliday: you know the backyard stuff is gone all the time they fence jump uh I chased a woman out early the other morning. She was barefoot

732
01:32:48.690 --> 01:32:55.760
Vicki Halliday: cold, but she was ripping apart a storage shed and stealing things out of it. What am I to do? Let her do it.

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Vicki Halliday: You know

734
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Vicki Halliday: that it's insanity, that, and part of the the like. A compassion that we're all accused of having comes from all these experiences where we have to protect ourselves. We have to protect our belongings.

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Vicki Halliday: Um! And it gets old. I know it gets all for them being on the street, I can only imagine,

736
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Vicki Halliday: but there would be more compassion,

737
01:33:22.840 --> 01:33:25.270
Vicki Halliday: you know, if we weren't dealing with the drugs.

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frank murphy: Well, I

739
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frank murphy: little further comment

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frank murphy: on the housing versus treatment.

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frank murphy: Obviously we need to have both

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frank murphy: um and

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frank murphy: I understand releases coming from

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frank murphy: um. But I also understand where I I was coming from.

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frank murphy: You know we have a variety of reasons why people are on the street, and some of it is because of the lack of housing, and I also understand where Clark's coming from

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frank murphy: Now we have we as a homeless committee. We have identifying

747
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frank murphy: many different parcels where some of this

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frank murphy: safe parking, et cetera, et cetera can occur,

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frank murphy: and we've had

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frank murphy: many

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frank murphy: different

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frank murphy: homeless

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01:34:26.150 --> 01:34:34.389
frank murphy: folks that came in, and basically their one of their main requests was, I just need a safe place to to lay my head

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frank murphy: at night,

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frank murphy: and the drugs help you get through the night. So we need to

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frank murphy: do some stuff There's room to move around in there,

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frank murphy: and we've provided a hell of a lot of information, and we continue to provide it, and it's still there on the site. It's still available.

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frank murphy: And um,

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frank murphy: you know we're we're not the facilitators of that. We are the ones that make it known to people, and we actually bring it up and do research and get it done.

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frank murphy: And yet, if they're not gonna take it, which I hope we're gonna get a different response from Tracy and uh, and others, and from Karen Bass that we got from uh

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frank murphy: um Garcetti and uh, Mike Bonham.

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frank murphy: So

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frank murphy: this is a many many prompt issue.

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frank murphy: Housing is a really big issue that needs to be handled. Housing in and of itself needs to be handled by land use and planning committee.

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frank murphy: So uh, let's get on. Let's uh let's uh get a

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frank murphy: maybe get a meeting together with land use and planning, and us

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frank murphy: to uh to sort of talk about how we can participate.

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frank murphy: Um! And how we can function to get the two the two things working in the same direction.

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frank murphy: There's also the other issue where

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frank murphy: the

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frank murphy: treatment is required like Charles Rails was saying, when we first started this, and and I think

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frank murphy: um

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frank murphy: uh

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frank murphy: ah bales from a mission

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frank murphy: supported it was that when people drop into

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frank murphy: homelessness,

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frank murphy: they're they, They become the the the drugs, and the and the mental illness, then become much more

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frank murphy: actually

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frank murphy: get Ptsd and get all of the issues that they they manifest themselves because of the situation they're in. So we've got to get this situation where it's manageable for people so that they can feel a little bit of control over their over their destiny and their life.

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frank murphy: And uh, but we need to have the treatment, and we need to have the consequences. We need to have

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frank murphy: everything that uh Stan was talking about, everything that pad talks about,

782
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frank murphy: everything that uh, you know Liz talks about. I mean, this is we and Jody and Vicki I mean, we need, you know, and everybody in the in the community. We need to address this stuff. And um!

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frank murphy: I think that these these uh conversations um

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frank murphy: um help to address it, though they're not They're not the solution. Anybody who thinks that they're just going to

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frank murphy: be able to come up with a solution tonight is dreaming,

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frank murphy: anyhow. Um,

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frank murphy: anybody else.

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Vicki Halliday: I do see that Dan, like it put his hand back up. Let me let me ask you, Dan, did you have something else to say?

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Daniel Liggett: I just uh yeah, I just wanted to say I thought what Stan was bringing up was was very apropos. I mean, it really hits, you know, strongly. And and just for our little thing on flower. That's that's what we got going on here.

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Daniel Liggett: And then just for an example of uh something that happened, you know. Uh

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Daniel Liggett: last year, just before the Marathon. I don't know if you're all aware of the big encampment that was on San Diego outside the veterans property overnight. They were all moved right in on the property,

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Daniel Liggett: and they may, they may do.

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Daniel Liggett: And now, if you go by there, everybody's got a little tiny house,

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Daniel Liggett: I I I I guess they all had to

795
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Daniel Liggett: uh abide by the rules there. I i'm not sure of that.

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Daniel Liggett: But uh, they sure clean that up real quick. I mean, we all probably know the underlying reason for that is because the Marathon is going to run by. But uh, you know where there's a will. There's a way,

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Daniel Liggett: and uh but again it's it's it's It's the drugs. That's the big problem.

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Daniel Liggett: That's the big problem.

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Daniel Liggett: Because the people that are just homeless.

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Daniel Liggett: We'll we'll take a house. But then the people that

801
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Daniel Liggett: or on the drugs, whatever they may be. They're not taking a house because they can't

802
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Daniel Liggett: do their drugs.

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Daniel Liggett: So they got to address that problem like, Stan says,

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Daniel Liggett: and we should stop giving them a place to do the drugs.

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Ansar Muhammad: It's right,

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Daniel Liggett: Thank you, Dan.

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C Bailey: Hello! Sorry I can't seem to get my

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C Bailey: um sound working well.

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C Bailey: Oh, you guys can hear me. Great!

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C Bailey: Well, I'm going to agree with Stan for

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C Bailey: second meeting in a row. Um,

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C Bailey: But where's the enforcement. I think you touched on the stan. What are we doing?

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C Bailey: What are we not doing

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C Bailey: in order to get

815
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C Bailey: just some basic laws enforced? People should not have things stolen out of their yard. People shouldn't have to wake up to somebody

816
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C Bailey: trying to break into

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C Bailey: sheds, or just in their yard, or just in general,

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C Bailey: and I know a lot of people don't want to hear the word police. But as a society we have some

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C Bailey: basic rules that everybody follows. That's why we have a free society, and in a free society you need to have some enforcement to make sure that those who don't want to live in a free society. Don't get to run it for the rest of us, and I feel like

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C Bailey: we're the ones who are paying the price, because now we're.

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C Bailey: We have to live under

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C Bailey: the laws of of

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C Bailey: basic Wallace. Yes, and Venice.

824
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C Bailey: The rest of the city doesn't have to live with it. So the woman from Flower, who said, Let the accountants move around just as long as they move around to the places that don't have to deal with it.

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C Bailey: You're right. Why, don't they feel what we're feeling,

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C Bailey: and it's I just I don't I don't totally understand why we have a lack of enforcement. I know that our our uh previous representation

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C Bailey: for the city of La

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C Bailey: um. I won't even say his name anymore

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C Bailey: was against it. So we didn't get it so hopefully we can get more enforcement. But there are still other things that

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C Bailey: we just can't do the way we used to do anymore, and I don't. I don't totally know what the answer is. I mean, I know. A few months back we had. Uh, was it Claudia? Martin came on and gave us some good information as to why things have sort of changed because of some of the laws that have changed.

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C Bailey: You know. How do we? How do we change that in some cases, how do we get to the point where the people who, where we can separate the people, I guess, is kind of what Stan is saying, Get the people who want help, who are just lost their job, who who are just down on their back.

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C Bailey: Those are the easy people to take care of because they want to. They're not

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C Bailey: on the street because they want to. But how do we get the people off the street who want to be on the street because they don't have to follow rules. I think that's part of the biggest issue with these open air drug scenes we have. We Venice has become one big open air drug scene,

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C Bailey: and you're not supposed to be doing that in public like that. You're not supposed to be doing those drugs at all. So why is it happening?

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C Bailey: And how can we get enforcement?

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C Bailey: That's my comment.

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frank murphy: There is.

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Elizabeth Wright: Um

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Elizabeth Wright: I I don't want to sound like I'm making assignments to people.

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Elizabeth Wright: I I I don't want it to make.

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Elizabeth Wright: It sounds like i'm giving assignments to people, but I I think it is a good time for reintroducing that list of properties

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Elizabeth Wright: Uh, Frank, that you have,

843
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Elizabeth Wright: and once again asking the city to consider them with the new administration.

844
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Elizabeth Wright: And I think also it is appropriate to, uh

845
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Elizabeth Wright: submit a a motion regarding enforcement

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Elizabeth Wright: uh, as as Vicki suggested,

847
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Elizabeth Wright: that if if the uh,

848
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Elizabeth Wright: if the lease is renewed,

849
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Elizabeth Wright: it has to be that has to be one of the

850
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Elizabeth Wright: uh requirements.

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Vicki Halliday: Yeah, I think the sex zone needs to

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Vicki Halliday: come back. I mean, the signs are still up, but it's never been enforced.

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Vicki Halliday: You know the special security zone. So if I just did that

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Elizabeth Wright: but once it's on our agenda, then we can in turn,

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Elizabeth Wright: pass it up to the board.

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frank murphy: Sounds good.

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PatRaphael: Okay, Uh, I'm sorry you lost me for a second there. But uh, basically, as I've been listening to this conversation.

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PatRaphael: I hate to be the one out here stating the obvious again.

859
01:45:01.420 --> 01:45:03.540
PatRaphael: But uh, but but

860
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PatRaphael: stand kind of touched up on it a little bit.

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PatRaphael: What he was saying is that there is.

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PatRaphael: This is a

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PatRaphael: subsection of the population doing drugs all day,

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frank murphy: all right. And

865
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PatRaphael: oh, my God, yeah, so um!

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Is it better? Can you all hear me?

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Vicki Halliday: Yeah.

868
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PatRaphael: Okay.

869
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PatRaphael: So so so what I want to.

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PatRaphael: But I just wanted to.

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frank murphy: You're freezing pat.

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PatRaphael: I want to.

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Elizabeth Wright: You sound like a

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frank murphy: you're you're You're going in and out,

875
01:46:04.190 --> 01:46:06.099
frank murphy: and you're frozen. Now.

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frank murphy: I don't know if you can hear us.

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Jody Mortimer: I can still hear you.

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frank murphy: Did you hear Pat? Uh, Jodie?

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Vicki Halliday: I think Pat's frozen.

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frank murphy: Yeah, he's he's frozen.

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01:46:36.890 --> 01:46:39.250
frank murphy: Well, let's see if he can reboot.

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Vicki Halliday: There he is.

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Vicki Halliday: Hey, Pat, unmute, pat

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Vicki Halliday: you're muted.

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PatRaphael: Okay, Here we go. Uh: sorry guys, This is not my Internet i'm just taking uh Internet from staples. But but I want to just quickly say where we should really be putting the bulk of our effort in all of this.

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PatRaphael: It's trying to really understand who in this population is looking to do something other than do drugs all day,

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PatRaphael: and once we identify the people that

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PatRaphael: maybe going through something uh

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PatRaphael: that's where we should be putting our effort. It seems like, uh, every time we make an intentional effort.

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What happened in front of the library

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PatRaphael: it becomes a situation where we say, if we can't have it, nobody can

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PatRaphael: right, because if you look at what's going on in the light in front of the library right now, that whole property has been blocked off so nobody can use it. And I'm and i'm asking myself,

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PatRaphael: who does that serve when we act like that

894
01:47:55.320 --> 01:47:58.340
PatRaphael: right? So we now end up

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PatRaphael: a big chunk of this population in front of

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01:48:01.800 --> 01:48:06.240
PatRaphael: folks homes in flower, right uh in, in, in

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01:48:06.410 --> 01:48:16.470
PatRaphael: where we should be really thinking and in in in talking about it, and I I think we're really ignoring is that there is a chunk of this population

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PatRaphael: that it doesn't matter what you offer them, because they want to hang out and do drugs all day. Uh, that's not where we should be,

899
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PatRaphael: as they say. You're washing your hands and then wiping it on the ground to dry it off. You know it's It's like you're doing an effort, and then the effort is not going to deal the result, because it doesn't have the big picture in mind. So just quickly to think about the big picture. Let's consider who

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PatRaphael: wants to do something other than drugs all day

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01:48:57.290 --> 01:49:18.780
PatRaphael: right? And then, if there's people who just want to do drugs all day, there is law enforcement there's consequences somehow, right? And then uh, i'm not a big proponent of stuff like safe injection sites, because I feel like that's a dangerous enabling. But I I i'm seeing that if we,

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PatRaphael: if we're not concentrating our efforts on people that want help right? And then there's some people that want to help.

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PatRaphael: But then, when they go to try to get help, they help really isn't available because they just isn't enough

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PatRaphael: community resources uh that that could handle that.

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So

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frank murphy: we're losing you again, Pat,

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PatRaphael: We started to.

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PatRaphael: Well, I i'll leave it with that. I feel like, uh, I've I've probably communicated what it

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01:49:56.180 --> 01:50:00.289
Vicki Halliday: Yeah, Yeah, that was clear,

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01:50:00.320 --> 01:50:02.609
Vicki Halliday: you know. You have to ask.

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01:50:03.430 --> 01:50:15.150
Vicki Halliday: It's the service providers, the outreach people who should be most aware of this, since they talk to everyone, and

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Vicki Halliday: you know one one wonders, you know, like in the case of people.

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Vicki Halliday: Urban alchemy is down there, so they talk to them. Lhasa comes through. Saint Joseph comes through,

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Vicki Halliday: and those service providers have no authority with the people on the ground. They don't know that population as well as you might think

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Ansar Muhammad: they are there. Okay, We need to put them all on notice for two thousand and twenty-three,

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Ansar Muhammad: because they are being ineffective with the outreach services that they are providing

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Ansar Muhammad: and urban Algamy. They all is receiving tax dollars to provide these services

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Ansar Muhammad: uh

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Ansar Muhammad: they don't have the license to operate

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Ansar Muhammad: with the population. I have been saying this for over a year now that you have to have folks who is either indigenous to the community

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Ansar Muhammad: or understand what the Lto is all about

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Ansar Muhammad: at any given time. I know I can walk to any encampment right now, no matter what time of night it is, and have real conversations with folks, because people know i'm from minutes.

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Ansar Muhammad: But if i'm coming from South Central or coming from from Long Beach.

924
01:51:45.570 --> 01:51:53.330
Ansar Muhammad: These folks is not going to have a conversation with these people, so I think, in the in the New Year we should put urban alchemy,

925
01:51:53.500 --> 01:51:59.529
Ansar Muhammad: especially them on noses. Why, don't you have a local hiring policy, the circle,

926
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Ansar Muhammad: the circle? Yes. Why, Don't, you have a a local hiring policy. How come you not? How come? You have not reached out to the local Cbos that have the ability

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Ansar Muhammad: to affect change with this population

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Ansar Muhammad: a safe place for you some credit,

929
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Ansar Muhammad: because we do have a brother working over there who was on Third Street.

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Ansar Muhammad: We do have a contract with them when I go public and say it. We have a very small contract with them. We have a full time worker.

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Ansar Muhammad: His name is Alfie Jones. He was on Thursday, because outreach to on this youth that maybe gang involved in events. I want to give a shout out to spot a spy for that. But that's the only agency

932
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Ansar Muhammad: that have reached out to a community-based grassroots Agency, like helper foundation? There was two thousand things to say. How can we partner.

933
01:52:55.820 --> 01:52:58.449
Ansar Muhammad: How can we get some of your guys on our team

934
01:52:58.480 --> 01:53:06.270
Ansar Muhammad: So we can really do a better job of what we're doing? I have witness Here's what happened. I have witnesses. They come out with a clipboard.

935
01:53:06.960 --> 01:53:09.120
Ansar Muhammad: They call them wellness checks,

936
01:53:10.080 --> 01:53:12.570
Ansar Muhammad: and they take an information, and that's it.

937
01:53:13.170 --> 01:53:19.579
Ansar Muhammad: They're not trying to find out if this due to his own meth and been high all night. They're not trying to find out if this due to selling that

938
01:53:19.650 --> 01:53:28.790
Ansar Muhammad: they don't care. They're not trying to find out that there's a gang tie. Well, the the the team that I have this is what they assess do. Is it a gang time.

939
01:53:29.130 --> 01:53:32.700
Ansar Muhammad: Okay, for so if it is, is it local games?

940
01:53:32.750 --> 01:53:37.010
Ansar Muhammad: Can we have a conversation with these individuals? Is dealing with the dress

941
01:53:37.590 --> 01:53:45.170
Ansar Muhammad: if it's not a local gang can we reach out in our network to find out. Why is this neighborhood from South Central and Venice selling dope?

942
01:53:45.850 --> 01:53:50.619
Ansar Muhammad: We try to find out if there is a prostitution element here who is the pim?

943
01:53:51.100 --> 01:53:54.969
Ansar Muhammad: If it's a local pim, we have conversation with that person.

944
01:53:56.000 --> 01:54:02.049
Ansar Muhammad: But more importantly, we talk directly and intentionally to the individual who may say that i'm tired of getting hot.

945
01:54:02.870 --> 01:54:05.259
Ansar Muhammad: I need I need you guys,

946
01:54:06.090 --> 01:54:16.939
Ansar Muhammad: and that's when phone calls are made. But this type of outreach is not being done by none of the service providers, because they don't have, and i'm a go back to this. The license to operate,

947
01:54:20.000 --> 01:54:23.000
Ansar Muhammad: and you have to have it in order to be effective.

948
01:54:24.410 --> 01:54:25.920
Ansar Muhammad: You have to.

949
01:54:28.480 --> 01:54:39.600
Ansar Muhammad: People are afraid these people are afraid to come. These people when I say these people and i'm not trying to knock them down. But it's the truth.

950
01:54:39.820 --> 01:54:53.870
Ansar Muhammad: They are fray, you know who they call. They call my team whenever they got to go to a situation. My guys is being called a Can you come over and walk with me over here? Oh, it it was. It was an encampment behind whole foods,

951
01:55:04.110 --> 01:55:06.229
Ansar Muhammad: and all my guys is from Bennett,

952
01:55:06.800 --> 01:55:14.850
Ansar Muhammad: and it takes a whole lot of W. When you have somebody from Venice doing outreach the way we do it.

953
01:55:15.040 --> 01:55:20.110
Ansar Muhammad: I tell people that we work with to this day. That's fifty percent of our success

954
01:55:20.220 --> 01:55:23.809
Ansar Muhammad: the minute they know you from Venice they open up,

955
01:55:24.730 --> 01:55:28.260
Ansar Muhammad: but if they know you cover from Compton long be South Central,

956
01:55:33.540 --> 01:55:40.249
PatRaphael: they not going to give you a There was a bit of an encampment right on the corner of uh. What is it uh

957
01:55:40.340 --> 01:55:47.110
PatRaphael: brooks and and electric They took over that parking lot there for about a week or so,

958
01:55:47.590 --> 01:55:49.430
PatRaphael: all right. And

959
01:55:51.400 --> 01:56:00.209
PatRaphael: what? What? What happens at that at that point, when somebody comes and tells people to run off and go somewhere else, they're just gonna go somewhere else.

960
01:56:01.150 --> 01:56:05.119
C Bailey: Is there any way we can hold anybody accountable?

961
01:56:05.580 --> 01:56:06.630
C Bailey: I mean,

962
01:56:07.900 --> 01:56:09.099
C Bailey: how

963
01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:13.139
C Bailey: how do? How do we get sort of audit process?

964
01:56:13.160 --> 01:56:22.180
C Bailey: I mean it sounds like it sounds like Stan already, has it. But why can't we hold anybody accountable for them? Not doing their job?

965
01:56:22.370 --> 01:56:36.259
C Bailey: Because i'm always working until seven thirty, because I have to be held accountable for what's going to happen tomorrow, and if i'm not accountable for what's happening tomorrow, I may not have a job. In a few weeks

966
01:56:36.940 --> 01:56:43.169
Ansar Muhammad: I have met with both Tracy and Aaron throughout the campaign, and i'll put this in front of them.

967
01:56:43.510 --> 01:56:48.019
Ansar Muhammad: Okay, and both of them agree that once they become official

968
01:56:48.080 --> 01:56:49.790
Ansar Muhammad: that they will run about it,

969
01:56:49.920 --> 01:57:07.240
Ansar Muhammad: they will find out how much money is coming into spy, how much money is coming into uh the Circle people how much money is coming into, as it relates, to outreach, not housing, and all that subject outreach. And Then they also said that they would make it a point

970
01:57:07.380 --> 01:57:18.080
Ansar Muhammad: to make sure that these folks, if they're gonna all these contracts that they sub contract with the grassroots organization that i'm talking about if and when that happens

971
01:57:18.160 --> 01:57:19.960
Ansar Muhammad: it's gonna change the game,

972
01:57:20.150 --> 01:57:31.339
Ansar Muhammad: because now we have on the ground boost on the ground folks that work for my agency. They already doing it now to a degree. But it's not being done the way it can be.

973
01:57:31.680 --> 01:57:42.850
Ansar Muhammad: Okay. But they have. We have boots on the ground. We have more alfies out there that know how to talk to these folks and really deal with the issue that I was talking about earlier, but until then

974
01:57:43.310 --> 01:57:44.389
Ansar Muhammad: we limit it.

975
01:57:45.030 --> 01:57:46.989
C Bailey: So how do we change that?

976
01:57:47.250 --> 01:57:52.080
Ansar Muhammad: But I think we should have this conversation with the service providers? I think, Tracy.

977
01:57:52.110 --> 01:57:55.819
Ansar Muhammad: Uh it looks like she's going to be winning. So we need to draft up

978
01:57:55.920 --> 01:57:58.709
Ansar Muhammad: a letter or even have a comments, a meeting with her,

979
01:57:58.730 --> 01:58:17.010
Ansar Muhammad: and it's gonna come back to her memory that we've had. This conversation is going to be like Yes, Stan, I've already talked to me about this and let's make it happen, because, look, it's really an injustice. When you have the bigger agencies that Mike, for whatever reason, I guess he was as he was his favorites,

980
01:58:17.290 --> 01:58:36.319
Ansar Muhammad: it was never R. Ip. Process. If it if it hadn't been a hierarchy process, we would apply for the outreach part of it, because that's what we do, and we do it. Well, we've done it so well. Uh, you already know the history, I mean. So I don't have to talk about it too much tonight. Just know that we do have

981
01:58:36.330 --> 01:58:40.719
Ansar Muhammad: a group of people from Venice that is, with not with my team

982
01:58:40.860 --> 01:58:47.220
Ansar Muhammad: that can get in there and deal with this stuff as it relates to making sure that it, When we do an assessment

983
01:58:47.310 --> 01:58:54.849
Ansar Muhammad: of an encampment, we assess it in three areas, and Clark know what i'm about to say. We assess it from the the game,

984
01:58:54.990 --> 01:59:04.210
Ansar Muhammad: the prostitution, and the open drug. Once we determine these elements, we do outreach in those areas,

985
01:59:05.810 --> 01:59:09.229
Ansar Muhammad: because again, everybody is not on math, I hope,

986
01:59:09.450 --> 01:59:23.999
Ansar Muhammad: and everybody is not tied to the local gangs. But in most cases you have one or two former gang members that that's homeless. They got ties to some cast is active, and before you know what you got me coming and going on flower in particular.

987
01:59:24.190 --> 01:59:33.179
Ansar Muhammad: Make the money on flower. Somebody is making money on South minutes. Somebody was making a bunch of money behind whole foods.

988
01:59:33.460 --> 01:59:36.220
Ansar Muhammad: Well, my team go in and deal with that stuff.

989
01:59:36.840 --> 01:59:43.909
Ansar Muhammad: But these are the service providers. They just punch in the clock and going home

990
01:59:44.170 --> 01:59:46.860
frank murphy: also. We have

991
01:59:47.090 --> 01:59:55.930
frank murphy: Brian brought this up many times is holding the service providers accountable for how many people they are actually servicing,

992
01:59:56.050 --> 01:59:58.509
frank murphy: seeing as their service providers,

993
01:59:58.670 --> 02:00:09.219
frank murphy: and what their expenditures are. So, you know, like Pat and I have talked about this and those stand. You and I have talked about this endlessly, Vicki,

994
02:00:13.720 --> 02:00:14.910
frank murphy: you know.

995
02:00:14.950 --> 02:00:17.239
frank murphy: Where is the money going. And

996
02:00:17.420 --> 02:00:23.720
frank murphy: what are you getting for that? And one of the things that we also have?

997
02:00:23.830 --> 02:00:32.119
frank murphy: There you go. They got a lot of new vehicles that's that's not getting the job done.

998
02:00:32.180 --> 02:00:39.689
frank murphy: And we've had this. We've had this discussion. Even you stand and asked and

999
02:00:39.790 --> 02:00:45.869
frank murphy: pad. It asks, is, Do any of these service providers reach out to the people that are

1000
02:00:46.250 --> 02:00:47.469
frank murphy: homeless

1001
02:00:47.710 --> 02:00:51.550
frank murphy: to help them with what they're doing.

1002
02:00:52.490 --> 02:01:08.319
frank murphy: And the answer was, No, they never reached out. So here it Here it is the very community that they're trying to service. They're not even reaching out to that community to to get uh people to work with.

1003
02:01:08.480 --> 02:01:11.050
Ansar Muhammad: Yeah,

1004
02:01:11.220 --> 02:01:15.360
Ansar Muhammad: Most encampments, Frank, have one or two individuals

1005
02:01:15.430 --> 02:01:17.750
Ansar Muhammad: that is considered Alphas.

1006
02:01:18.110 --> 02:01:21.320
Ansar Muhammad: These are the ones that is, will become like

1007
02:01:21.470 --> 02:01:27.000
Ansar Muhammad: the go to. You just can't walk into any encampment and start doing whatever.

1008
02:01:27.070 --> 02:01:32.529
Ansar Muhammad: And what we've noticed is if these Alphas is from Venice, even if they not,

1009
02:01:32.740 --> 02:01:37.319
Ansar Muhammad: the fact that our people is from Venice. We have a way to develop rapport

1010
02:01:37.440 --> 02:01:55.710
Ansar Muhammad: relationship, and ultimately um. We have intentional conversation. I don't want to go too far into what we do other than the fact that we need to put them on notice. Put that outreach money with us. Okay, let's just be honest and candid. The first person i'm gonna bring on is Pat. He'll be one of them,

1011
02:01:55.720 --> 02:02:00.059
Ansar Muhammad: and it'll be several others that we will bring on to the team

1012
02:02:00.360 --> 02:02:08.980
Ansar Muhammad: to do intentional outreach. Once we do some training, they will know exactly how to do it, and why it's important for them to get it done the way we do it.

1013
02:02:09.670 --> 02:02:19.360
Ansar Muhammad: But until then i'm just i'm just blowing in the wind, for now and for the clients that know who I am. They know that we have been effective

1014
02:02:19.400 --> 02:02:24.349
Ansar Muhammad: around the city of Venice. We've got several people housing. However,

1015
02:02:30.410 --> 02:02:37.840
Ansar Muhammad: the first thing we got to do is get people sober, and more importantly, we got to make sure that the local gang element

1016
02:02:38.100 --> 02:02:45.189
Ansar Muhammad: is no longer. I don't allow. Okay, And i'm gonna say it because we're not police, but they're no longer allowed

1017
02:02:45.450 --> 02:02:53.720
Ansar Muhammad: to do. They open drug market in the areas where we provide outreach because it's a disrespect now to the outreach team

1018
02:02:54.260 --> 02:02:59.820
Ansar Muhammad: in the outreach team as farmers from Venice. So if I show up to a flower and I say, look,

1019
02:02:59.850 --> 02:03:01.439
Ansar Muhammad: this is our site. Now.

1020
02:03:02.760 --> 02:03:08.650
Ansar Muhammad: Okay, this is our site. Now we got to do what we got to do here in terms of outreach and helping these folks,

1021
02:03:09.150 --> 02:03:14.579
Ansar Muhammad: and the cat is selling the dope and be like, Okay, Stan: Well, damn, I didn't know you was over here. Yeah, we are

1022
02:03:15.090 --> 02:03:18.949
Ansar Muhammad: matter of fact. Bro: You need to stop all that you need to clean yourself up.

1023
02:03:19.250 --> 02:03:37.579
Ansar Muhammad: You've been doing it too long, man, clean up so, anyway. I I just, you know. Thank you guys for listening to me tonight. I I wouldn't plan on saying all this, Frank, but I think we had a plan now where I I got a sound alarm, because i'm hearing these homeowners man, I I hear they I I hear it in a voice man,

1024
02:03:37.940 --> 02:03:41.520
Ansar Muhammad: and it it really it. It really troubles my heart

1025
02:03:41.610 --> 02:03:44.389
Ansar Muhammad: to know that they gotta go through what they going through,

1026
02:03:44.410 --> 02:03:53.329
Ansar Muhammad: and they can't even walk out of they. They they front yard. They can't walk it. It's almost like. If somebody said to night. I can't even walk my children down the street.

1027
02:03:54.470 --> 02:03:56.059
Ansar Muhammad: I'm, old man,

1028
02:03:56.750 --> 02:04:04.190
C Bailey: like I said it. It was walking down. Flower was scary, and I've lived in this neighborhood since the

1029
02:04:04.820 --> 02:04:06.960
C Bailey: and I was scared.

1030
02:04:08.350 --> 02:04:10.209
Ansar Muhammad: That'll make no sense, man.

1031
02:04:10.400 --> 02:04:13.490
C Bailey: I was about to go back to carrying my baseball back,

1032
02:04:14.060 --> 02:04:21.160
Ansar Muhammad: and and Colette Doesn't scare easily.

1033
02:04:21.650 --> 02:04:27.679
frank murphy: Yeah, Stan's been on the other side of that one. Um,

1034
02:04:27.820 --> 02:04:31.469
frank murphy: Um, Okay, guys, Let's uh

1035
02:04:31.680 --> 02:04:33.510
frank murphy: let's uh

1036
02:04:33.750 --> 02:04:36.729
frank murphy: leave it at that. And um

1037
02:04:37.510 --> 02:04:39.080
frank murphy: um

1038
02:04:40.010 --> 02:04:58.760
frank murphy: let's uh, let's pick this conversation up and let's get some of this agenda stuff going uh Liz and uh um, maybe um um. Stir that up again uh get in touch with everybody to let them know what you are hearing.

1039
02:04:58.770 --> 02:05:00.269
frank murphy: And uh,

1040
02:05:01.040 --> 02:05:02.980
frank murphy: I think we've uh.

1041
02:05:03.690 --> 02:05:21.709
frank murphy: This was pretty good. Anybody else have anything else to add, I was thinking about. Can we get a a meeting with with Tracy, or should we? I mean, we've all yeah. We tried to do that. We tried to get a meeting with her this time around, but she was way too overwhelmed. Yeah,

1042
02:05:21.720 --> 02:05:25.060
PatRaphael: And so uh, she said that,

1043
02:05:25.480 --> 02:05:35.469
PatRaphael: huh? Right? Somebody from Karen Bass's office as well. He doesn't have yet really bad, because I feel like we're we're kind of setting ourselves up

1044
02:05:35.570 --> 02:05:42.100
PatRaphael: for a heavy disappointment in the next year, because we're expecting for Tracy to do too much.

1045
02:05:42.230 --> 02:05:46.830
PatRaphael: I mean, I I understand that you know there's something she can do. But

1046
02:05:47.220 --> 02:06:01.700
C Bailey: I I just I just don't want us to think that she's going to come and solve everything

1047
02:06:01.960 --> 02:06:14.890
C Bailey: expectations. Thirty days, sixty days they're out and put somebody else in.

1048
02:06:15.350 --> 02:06:24.580
PatRaphael: Yeah. So, if not in December, Can we put something together for January? So that

1049
02:06:24.920 --> 02:06:36.570
frank murphy: sure let's stay in touch pat and we'll uh we'll. Um. Yeah, we're We're gonna put together a meeting for December. Anyhow, we have.

1050
02:06:37.060 --> 02:06:40.680
frank murphy: You know we've had eighteen to twenty people show up

1051
02:06:40.980 --> 02:06:46.979
frank murphy: on a regular basis. That's a lot of folks showing up for these meetings, even though they're

1052
02:06:47.050 --> 02:06:54.350
frank murphy: they're in between the holidays. So uh let's uh we're gonna We're gonna have one in December two.

1053
02:06:54.550 --> 02:07:03.380
frank murphy: And uh and uh, but January will be. I'm sure that. Uh, we'll be able to get um Tracy or somebody else,

1054
02:07:03.570 --> 02:07:22.169
C Bailey: and uh, and also from the police department and police department. We need the service providers to be accountable. Those two things, those two things will change the game, and it sounds like Stan already has a plan for how that can change the game.

1055
02:07:22.350 --> 02:07:23.250
Ansar Muhammad: Yeah,

1056
02:07:23.490 --> 02:07:24.620
frank murphy: Cool.

1057
02:07:24.860 --> 02:07:26.380
frank murphy: All right, guys.

1058
02:07:26.850 --> 02:07:34.599
Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Everybody for taking it all in

1059
02:07:34.860 --> 02:07:52.130
Elizabeth Wright: a reminder. Folks, if you submit agenda requests. Then we could actually discuss things and get the get things done. Yeah, yeah, thank you, Elizabeth, for that. That was good to know.

1060
02:07:52.330 --> 02:07:53.989
Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Everybody.

1061
02:07:54.350 --> 02:07:58.770
Elizabeth Wright: Thank you.