WEBVTT 1 00:00:48.760 --> 00:00:50.610 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, Can you hear me? 2 00:00:59.190 --> 00:01:00.710 Preserving Public Places Committee: Can you hear me? 3 00:01:00.930 --> 00:01:03.500 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah. Oh, shock 4 00:01:04.160 --> 00:01:06.329 Preserving Public Places Committee: um. Do you hear me, Jim? 5 00:01:07.870 --> 00:01:11.990 Preserving Public Places Committee: Uh, Helen, Do you want to try to speak and see if he, 6 00:01:12.810 --> 00:01:14.720 Helen Fallon: Joe, Can you hear me? 7 00:01:24.920 --> 00:01:26.940 Helen Fallon: Okay, now? 8 00:01:27.240 --> 00:01:30.460 Preserving Public Places Committee: Can you hear me clearly, or is it totally? 9 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:32.590 Preserving Public Places Committee: Or if it is to me. 10 00:01:35.800 --> 00:01:38.760 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um! Um! Can anybody hear me speak 11 00:01:38.930 --> 00:01:42.770 Helen Fallon: uh? 12 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:46.670 Helen Fallon: Okay, Now I'm on video. 13 00:01:47.130 --> 00:01:48.280 Preserving Public Places Committee: Uh, 14 00:01:48.330 --> 00:01:58.559 Helen Fallon: and let's see who the participants? Um! Why can I not see 15 00:02:04.390 --> 00:02:05.970 Preserving Public Places Committee: um 16 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:11.789 Preserving Public Places Committee: shocks. I wish them were still on here because I don't see how over you. 17 00:02:12.270 --> 00:02:16.020 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, Now, i'm the only one I can see. Gallery. 18 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:17.450 Preserving Public Places Committee: Oh, that's 19 00:02:18.510 --> 00:02:20.110 Preserving Public Places Committee: um 20 00:02:23.950 --> 00:02:25.210 Preserving Public Places Committee: uh, 21 00:02:25.530 --> 00:02:42.829 Preserving Public Places Committee: is anybody else on this meeting? Now, Helen, are you on it? I just Todd, are you on it? There's I I just connected you. You You are on, and for some reason i'm not getting anybody else's image on my screen. Now, though, I did before 22 00:02:43.410 --> 00:02:47.350 Preserving Public Places Committee: um. Do you see other people on the screen. 23 00:02:56.720 --> 00:02:57.940 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, 24 00:03:02.580 --> 00:03:13.470 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, I hear you right now, but I don't know if you can hear me. It Can you say something Todd or anybody, because i'm not hearing nor seeing anybody. 25 00:03:13.490 --> 00:03:16.230 Preserving Public Places Committee: Can you unmute everybody? Um. 26 00:03:17.130 --> 00:03:25.129 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay. Oh, here, Okay, I turn Bluetooth off. Okay, Can anybody here or see me 27 00:03:25.470 --> 00:03:29.540 Preserving Public Places Committee: this? Please speak or show your face because i'm not 28 00:03:29.760 --> 00:03:31.700 Preserving Public Places Committee: seeing anybody. 29 00:03:33.350 --> 00:03:40.400 Preserving Public Places Committee: Helen, Are you seeing anybody? Oh, you are seeing me. 30 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:49.810 Preserving Public Places Committee: Why try it? Exit. Full screen. But it's a different mode. Yeah, I did that, but 31 00:03:51.140 --> 00:03:52.870 Preserving Public Places Committee: I I have it on. 32 00:03:52.950 --> 00:04:00.200 Preserving Public Places Committee: My view should be gallery, and it's not showing anybody but me. So now i'm speaker, 33 00:04:00.340 --> 00:04:02.880 Preserving Public Places Committee: and it still only shows me. 34 00:04:03.040 --> 00:04:07.829 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um. Let's see. Attendee View should be gallery 35 00:04:12.610 --> 00:04:15.110 Preserving Public Places Committee: Nothing's changing on here. 36 00:04:15.860 --> 00:04:19.369 Preserving Public Places Committee: Participants. I show that there are four participants, and yet 37 00:04:19.470 --> 00:04:20.809 Preserving Public Places Committee: I can't 38 00:04:21.990 --> 00:04:27.340 Preserving Public Places Committee: see anybody but me, and I can't hear anybody. Can people please speak 39 00:04:28.870 --> 00:04:32.969 Preserving Public Places Committee: and make sure your your your cameras are on 40 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:40.969 Preserving Public Places Committee: video settings. Um, 41 00:04:47.820 --> 00:04:57.630 Preserving Public Places Committee: I think they should. You know you were showing up at first when you were. I don't know how to do it, because i'm not 42 00:04:57.700 --> 00:04:59.910 Preserving Public Places Committee: figuring out these things. 43 00:05:01.100 --> 00:05:14.609 Preserving Public Places Committee: I can see and hear you, but apparently you can't see or hear me. Yeah, that's true. Todd just wrote what he can see in here. But I he's an attendee, and I don't 44 00:05:14.620 --> 00:05:24.400 Preserving Public Places Committee: like if you click his name on, and I don't see him listed. I don't see that list for some you should have. 45 00:05:24.630 --> 00:05:29.800 Preserving Public Places Committee: I don't remember how to do that. So on the corner 46 00:05:29.970 --> 00:05:34.619 Preserving Public Places Committee: here, up in the corner Speaker 47 00:05:35.400 --> 00:05:37.260 Preserving Public Places Committee: Attendee View. 48 00:05:37.620 --> 00:05:39.709 Preserving Public Places Committee: Ten of you. Okay. 49 00:05:42.890 --> 00:06:02.460 Preserving Public Places Committee: Oh, here is it down here now. Okay, and then, Alice, allow to talk. Okay. So now, Todd, you should be able to talk, and Patsy and Helen and Tim Redneck. 50 00:06:02.530 --> 00:06:09.000 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, everybody should be. Oh, everybody needs to unmute 51 00:06:09.090 --> 00:06:14.270 Helen Fallon: Robert. I to unmute everybody, try to unmute. 52 00:06:14.780 --> 00:06:20.470 Helen Fallon: Okay? Oh, it looks like everybody is unmuted. Can you hear me? 53 00:06:20.530 --> 00:06:23.020 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, Can you all hear me, 54 00:06:25.250 --> 00:06:29.159 Helen Fallon: Robin? Can you hear Tim Ruddick? 55 00:06:29.210 --> 00:06:31.370 Helen Fallon: Okay, I 56 00:06:41.690 --> 00:06:43.850 Preserving Public Places Committee: i'm sorry. Everybody for 57 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:49.009 Preserving Public Places Committee: messing up on this. So let's see if you're 58 00:06:49.380 --> 00:06:51.410 Preserving Public Places Committee: okay. 59 00:06:51.650 --> 00:07:00.990 Preserving Public Places Committee: We're trying to get the speed out. Let's see another. We have one, two, three, four. We should have five participants. 60 00:07:01.130 --> 00:07:06.640 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um! Oh, Helen Fallon, you are muted. You need to 61 00:07:06.770 --> 00:07:09.549 Preserving Public Places Committee: wonder if I can do it back on this. 62 00:07:09.890 --> 00:07:11.870 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay? 63 00:07:11.960 --> 00:07:22.309 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay? Oh, it it's that's no way. 64 00:07:25.220 --> 00:07:29.120 Preserving Public Places Committee: And I don't know why i'm not seeing visuals on anybody. 65 00:07:37.430 --> 00:07:39.070 Preserving Public Places Committee: I turned one on. 66 00:07:39.290 --> 00:07:47.010 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay. So let's try this. I'm going to turn that back on. 67 00:07:53.290 --> 00:07:54.140 Oh, 68 00:07:58.060 --> 00:08:03.409 Preserving Public Places Committee: how do I? Um! How do I get out of um 69 00:08:03.900 --> 00:08:06.060 Preserving Public Places Committee: full screen. Do you know 70 00:08:06.510 --> 00:08:07.740 Preserving Public Places Committee: how do I? 71 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:12.590 Preserving Public Places Committee: You press escape, or double click? 72 00:08:12.830 --> 00:08:15.769 Preserving Public Places Committee: I tried escape, and I didn't do it, 73 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:20.910 Preserving Public Places Committee: Speaker. Oh, now I've got a different view. Oh, okay, here. 74 00:08:22.980 --> 00:08:24.750 Preserving Public Places Committee: No, that didn't do it. 75 00:08:25.640 --> 00:08:36.190 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, I'm: So sorry, everyone. Hopefully, I have this figured out a matter of moments. Okay, Bluetooth. I'm putting it on. Let's see if that gives us 76 00:08:36.230 --> 00:08:38.700 Preserving Public Places Committee: the correct sound systemitude. 77 00:08:43.950 --> 00:08:45.160 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, 78 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:46.200 timrudnick: Jim. 79 00:08:46.580 --> 00:08:49.989 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, Tim, I hear you. Okay, 80 00:08:50.190 --> 00:08:51.160 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, 81 00:08:51.180 --> 00:08:52.220 Preserving Public Places Committee: yeah. 82 00:08:52.730 --> 00:08:59.339 Preserving Public Places Committee: Can you hear me great. Okay, Helen, can you speak and see if we can hear you, 83 00:09:00.210 --> 00:09:04.109 Preserving Public Places Committee: Helen? 84 00:09:10.130 --> 00:09:14.549 Preserving Public Places Committee: Oh, yes, now you're Betsy and um, 85 00:09:15.180 --> 00:09:22.290 Preserving Public Places Committee: Tim. I heard that you heard Um, Let's see. Do we have um Todd on here? Oh, Todd, 86 00:09:23.640 --> 00:09:25.140 Preserving Public Places Committee: will you speak? 87 00:09:28.020 --> 00:09:29.919 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, And we need 88 00:09:30.110 --> 00:09:40.160 Preserving Public Places Committee: we need Sonya here to have a quorum. So i'm going to give her a call and see what she is. 89 00:09:41.700 --> 00:09:45.950 Preserving Public Places Committee: I'm not very depressed by everybody. 90 00:09:46.760 --> 00:09:49.130 Preserving Public Places Committee: I thought I had it figured out, 91 00:09:49.550 --> 00:10:00.969 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, you leave it. I'm really myself muted because it's It's okay. But I think you might get picked up on 92 00:10:02.030 --> 00:10:08.640 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay. But i'm assuming, can all of you. I don't see anybody, Can it? Can you all put your pictures up? 93 00:10:09.280 --> 00:10:10.369 Preserving Public Places Committee: Hi. 94 00:10:10.630 --> 00:10:16.300 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, Okay, please, please, please get in. Otherwise I'll I'll hold you. I'll keep the phone on. 95 00:10:16.660 --> 00:10:23.799 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, So we will do a roll call with um, Sonya on the phone until she can get on 96 00:10:24.220 --> 00:10:25.670 Preserving Public Places Committee: visually. 97 00:10:25.880 --> 00:10:34.200 Preserving Public Places Committee: So um let's see. Can Helen, Can you share our agenda and go to 98 00:10:40.870 --> 00:10:47.030 Preserving Public Places Committee: Oh, okay, panelists. Okay, How do I make you a panelist? Um. 99 00:10:52.980 --> 00:10:56.819 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay. Everybody is talking permitted. Well, I 100 00:10:56.920 --> 00:11:00.460 Preserving Public Places Committee: Oh, shot. How do I make you a panelist? 101 00:11:02.880 --> 00:11:03.900 Um. 102 00:11:11.570 --> 00:11:14.700 Preserving Public Places Committee: Well, until we can figure that out, 103 00:11:14.820 --> 00:11:20.659 Preserving Public Places Committee: let's do a little talk. So of the members of the committee. 104 00:11:20.980 --> 00:11:30.000 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um! God cannot be here, and we're gonna have to switch our meetings to being like the first Thursday of each month, because I just learned 105 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:32.220 Preserving Public Places Committee: that um 106 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:33.600 Preserving Public Places Committee: he has 107 00:11:34.220 --> 00:11:48.590 Preserving Public Places Committee: something that conflicts every month. Oh, you know what promote to panelists. Okay, I just promoted you to panelists. And actually, i'm going to promote everyone to panelists because we have a small group, and it makes it more 108 00:11:49.300 --> 00:11:53.760 Preserving Public Places Committee: uh enjoyable. And it 109 00:11:54.560 --> 00:12:02.379 Preserving Public Places Committee: so. If you all can have your cameras on to I'm, not just looking at a blank screen. Um, 110 00:12:04.550 --> 00:12:05.890 Preserving Public Places Committee: So 111 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:08.580 Preserving Public Places Committee: is anybody trying to put their screen on? 112 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:09.980 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah. 113 00:12:10.630 --> 00:12:12.739 Diana: So I can see you. 114 00:12:13.470 --> 00:12:20.840 Preserving Public Places Committee: Can you? Can you put down at the bottom left where it has the video. Um: Oh, Helen's on now. 115 00:12:21.070 --> 00:12:22.210 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, 116 00:12:22.300 --> 00:12:25.160 Preserving Public Places Committee: hey? 117 00:12:25.760 --> 00:12:27.510 Preserving Public Places Committee: Getting better. 118 00:12:27.690 --> 00:12:30.670 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um. And 119 00:12:32.260 --> 00:12:45.950 Preserving Public Places Committee: okay, We've got signed on the phone. So Let's see. I started taking the role. So okay, Scott can't be here. We have to reschedule so that he'll be able to be here in the future. Um, Sonia Greenland, Are you here? 120 00:12:46.830 --> 00:12:50.670 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, Sonya is here. That's the golden. Are you here? 121 00:12:53.010 --> 00:12:55.429 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, that you need to unmute. 122 00:13:00.430 --> 00:13:02.330 Preserving Public Places Committee: That's it. Can you unmute 123 00:13:05.800 --> 00:13:12.079 Preserving Public Places Committee: It's not working. 124 00:13:12.170 --> 00:13:14.730 Preserving Public Places Committee: Oh, now it is okay. Now I hear you. 125 00:13:15.250 --> 00:13:30.239 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, Okay. And Brian cannot be here he last minute uh to take his son to the doctor. But you said things are okay. So we got that done. So now, Helen, you being a panelist also, do you see? Down at the bottom where the share screen, you know. 126 00:13:39.580 --> 00:13:42.899 Preserving Public Places Committee: No? Oh, multiple people. 127 00:13:46.290 --> 00:13:50.290 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, Now she's got it. So just uh 128 00:13:50.380 --> 00:14:01.180 Preserving Public Places Committee: quickly. I'm gonna give it over there. We did the roll call. Then we review comment and adopt minutes from our prior meeting. So um! 129 00:14:01.250 --> 00:14:04.960 Preserving Public Places Committee: So anybody. Our minutes were both um 130 00:14:06.030 --> 00:14:21.459 Preserving Public Places Committee: uploaded from Betsy's notes as well as they are on uh audio and a transcript. So is anybody. So I think we can automatically just do that adoption, because it was. 131 00:14:22.430 --> 00:14:24.140 Preserving Public Places Committee: I'm: sorry we're speaking 132 00:14:29.580 --> 00:14:39.269 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, Okay, the Todd. I couldn't quite understand, because there's my 133 00:14:39.510 --> 00:14:50.710 Preserving Public Places Committee: okay, too. Hi, Diane. Um. How do you do? Um. Okay, Then um. The next item on our agenda is public comment. So if there is 134 00:14:50.720 --> 00:15:00.899 Preserving Public Places Committee: comment from anybody who is not a member of the committee, or it's not agenda items related to preserving public places. Oh, this is for the committee. Only so does 135 00:15:01.160 --> 00:15:04.179 Preserving Public Places Committee: or do any of our committee members 136 00:15:04.620 --> 00:15:05.640 Preserving Public Places Committee: that 137 00:15:05.880 --> 00:15:07.950 Preserving Public Places Committee: are not on our agenda. 138 00:15:09.190 --> 00:15:19.379 Preserving Public Places Committee: Nope, not hearing any, or seeing any hand, we will move on to uh reports. So the chairs report on all the new business. 139 00:15:19.740 --> 00:15:23.080 Preserving Public Places Committee: So we've got on our agenda 140 00:15:23.260 --> 00:15:30.479 Preserving Public Places Committee: a number of items on our business, and then we have an item on new business. Oh, I just not. 141 00:15:30.680 --> 00:15:35.920 Preserving Public Places Committee: Did some people just drop out? 142 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:47.179 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, I don't know why the view would have changed my view. I just found how to exit full screen. 143 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:51.629 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, now, things are looking a little better for me. 144 00:15:51.940 --> 00:15:53.419 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um. 145 00:15:54.010 --> 00:16:08.270 Preserving Public Places Committee: So I think when you change the view, it changed it for me to get your agenda up. Okay, let's see if you can. Um. Okay. So what 146 00:16:08.590 --> 00:16:23.430 Preserving Public Places Committee: does anybody. I I think we could move along because the items on all the new business are going to be brought up as we move forward in the meeting. Um, Okay, So on our old business, 147 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:30.569 Preserving Public Places Committee: unless we have. Well, we did have um. One matter that we should address. So 148 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.280 Preserving Public Places Committee: first of all, the go to repairs. 149 00:16:33.590 --> 00:16:37.989 Preserving Public Places Committee: I don't know if there' be anything new. If anybody else knows of anything new, 150 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:40.790 Preserving Public Places Committee: Please pick up, and I would say, that's true 151 00:16:49.560 --> 00:16:51.950 Preserving Public Places Committee: colonnade restoration 152 00:16:52.740 --> 00:17:07.730 Preserving Public Places Committee: that way, finding app nothing new yet. Site markers nothing new yet. West. Mr. Clubhouse, please, for creating a hu uh historic archive. There we do have new developers and 153 00:17:08.180 --> 00:17:18.320 Preserving Public Places Committee: um, Helen, I don't know if you're able to go into the reporting documents of our our committee. And if you go on that you'll see the motion that 154 00:17:18.520 --> 00:17:38.030 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, awesome. So well, Helen, filling that up. Um, I'll just tell everybody the new development on that, some of you know. Um. So what that is about um. 155 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:48.169 Preserving Public Places Committee: So the Westminster Dog Park has 156 00:17:48.180 --> 00:18:04.999 Preserving Public Places Committee: that building. That was well. It's referred to as the club had um, and it was a senior center for some time, and then it was promised by Bill Rosen, Doll to the Venice Historical Society to be a location for them to have 157 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:06.320 Preserving Public Places Committee: there. 158 00:18:06.540 --> 00:18:09.530 Preserving Public Places Committee: Archives are historic um, 159 00:18:10.060 --> 00:18:13.749 Preserving Public Places Committee: you know data so that the public could access it. And 160 00:18:13.970 --> 00:18:21.750 Preserving Public Places Committee: then rose the the least that was existing, though um he did not expire before Rosal. 161 00:18:21.930 --> 00:18:23.270 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um 162 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:25.670 Preserving Public Places Committee: uh, you know. 163 00:18:25.870 --> 00:18:29.050 Preserving Public Places Committee: Thank you very much. 164 00:18:30.080 --> 00:18:41.710 Preserving Public Places Committee: So his term expired, and he also passed away, and the is the The new Council person did not go forward with that 165 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:52.649 Preserving Public Places Committee: a promise that Rundell had made. And so the Historical Society has been hoping ever since to have that or have another site, and there is really 166 00:18:52.810 --> 00:18:56.330 Preserving Public Places Committee: they've not found another site. So 167 00:18:56.620 --> 00:19:11.280 Preserving Public Places Committee: we learned that um the least that is currently on it was just renewed for an organization called the circle. Um they, the renewable, was just until January, and 168 00:19:11.530 --> 00:19:14.430 Preserving Public Places Committee: so their lease will expire in January. 169 00:19:14.460 --> 00:19:28.080 Preserving Public Places Committee: So, this being a committee that is about preserving public places about the history of Venice, and knowing it and sharing it. Um, we want to support the uh, 170 00:19:28.930 --> 00:19:38.569 Preserving Public Places Committee: the request from the Venice Historical Society, um, and whoever else might want to join them in 171 00:19:38.900 --> 00:19:41.379 Preserving Public Places Committee: being able to get a lease on that 172 00:19:41.490 --> 00:19:45.489 Preserving Public Places Committee: clubhouse building for it to be a historic archive. 173 00:20:08.770 --> 00:20:11.050 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, 174 00:20:12.590 --> 00:20:13.940 Preserving Public Places Committee: under 175 00:20:21.780 --> 00:20:23.150 Oh, my God! 176 00:20:23.580 --> 00:20:31.060 Preserving Public Places Committee: Oh, now I see everybody faces up so you must be things that you're doing in your settings that are changing it for me, too. 177 00:20:31.870 --> 00:20:33.230 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um 178 00:20:37.050 --> 00:20:38.000 Preserving Public Places Committee: Well, 179 00:20:38.110 --> 00:20:39.180 Preserving Public Places Committee: um, 180 00:20:39.970 --> 00:20:57.289 Preserving Public Places Committee: yeah, sorry, everyone. I thought we could make this easier this way. I wonder if I can do it? Well, what I can do is indicate to what 181 00:20:57.390 --> 00:20:59.920 Preserving Public Places Committee: we have a motion that 182 00:21:00.090 --> 00:21:13.109 Preserving Public Places Committee: the committee can vote on. If anybody has a public comment. Um, we can take that. The motion is basically what I just said, and the actual words of it are posted on this 183 00:21:13.470 --> 00:21:26.149 Preserving Public Places Committee: on our web page on the Neighborhood Council, and that's what we're trying to do. A screen share of, but with that doing the screen share, it is completely accessible to the public. So I think we can go ahead and vote on it. 184 00:21:27.050 --> 00:21:29.200 Preserving Public Places Committee: I wonder if there's anything I need to do? 185 00:21:34.350 --> 00:21:40.869 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, Okay. So let's go ahead, and well, so does anybody have any questions or comments 186 00:21:41.090 --> 00:21:44.379 Preserving Public Places Committee: the public as well as the Committee on 187 00:21:44.660 --> 00:21:53.219 Preserving Public Places Committee: the On supporting the Venice Historical Society, the or Five Hundred and one, C. Three, on 188 00:21:53.380 --> 00:22:11.350 Preserving Public Places Committee: their request to Department of Recon Park and the City, Cd. Eleven to lease the Clutt House at Westminster Top Park location to them, to the a historic archive location. 189 00:22:12.470 --> 00:22:15.199 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um! Does anybody have any comment on that. 190 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:16.780 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um. 191 00:22:17.340 --> 00:22:23.400 Preserving Public Places Committee: And if you want to raise your hand to make a comment, you can do that down the bottom your screen. It should they raise hands. 192 00:22:24.730 --> 00:22:27.980 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, seeing no hands raised. 193 00:22:28.010 --> 00:22:30.060 Preserving Public Places Committee: Uh, let's take a vote. 194 00:22:30.100 --> 00:22:31.170 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, 195 00:22:31.420 --> 00:22:34.239 Preserving Public Places Committee: Betsy, Do you wrote for or against 196 00:22:34.360 --> 00:22:35.390 betsygoldman: four 197 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:41.310 Preserving Public Places Committee: uh Sonya? I got you on the cell phone here. Hopefully. 198 00:22:42.540 --> 00:23:01.829 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay. Here, say that again loud. Okay, definitely, just said she goes for I hope you all heard that, and I vote in favor also. So that's three votes for no extensions and no um 199 00:23:02.410 --> 00:23:04.820 Preserving Public Places Committee: opposing. So that passes 200 00:23:04.910 --> 00:23:07.090 Preserving Public Places Committee: um. That means that we will 201 00:23:07.250 --> 00:23:14.810 Preserving Public Places Committee: submit a request to the um board of the Venice Neighborhood Council, asking them to 202 00:23:15.300 --> 00:23:21.209 Preserving Public Places Committee: to pass that motion, to send a letter to the city and to recon Park. The 203 00:23:28.030 --> 00:23:34.859 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, then, that's it for our old business. So moving on to our new business, 204 00:23:34.900 --> 00:23:36.630 Preserving Public Places Committee: and 205 00:23:47.110 --> 00:23:50.940 Preserving Public Places Committee: Tim, do you know how to share screen? Um. Oh, 206 00:24:00.230 --> 00:24:01.450 Preserving Public Places Committee: co-host 207 00:24:02.860 --> 00:24:06.100 Preserving Public Places Committee: um let's see they Co-host. 208 00:24:07.470 --> 00:24:10.349 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, Helen, I made you a co-host. 209 00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:11.720 Preserving Public Places Committee: Let me try that. 210 00:24:13.990 --> 00:24:15.590 Yeah. 211 00:24:20.340 --> 00:24:25.950 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay. So what we're trying to do. Again. All the documents are on the 212 00:24:26.130 --> 00:24:27.360 Preserving Public Places Committee: um 213 00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:33.179 Preserving Public Places Committee: that I think of the Council preserving public places web page 214 00:24:33.310 --> 00:24:37.590 Preserving Public Places Committee: for all to see, and I hope and I think really everybody 215 00:24:37.910 --> 00:24:39.600 Preserving Public Places Committee: um is 216 00:24:39.740 --> 00:24:49.339 Preserving Public Places Committee: somewhat informed about this. I would not love to be able to show pictures, but I wonder if I should try to do it. 217 00:24:49.600 --> 00:24:50.690 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um! 218 00:24:51.050 --> 00:24:53.939 Preserving Public Places Committee: Oh, healing options so, 219 00:24:54.600 --> 00:24:58.459 Preserving Public Places Committee: Tim, we've got you sharing the screen? I'm: not sure. Why, 220 00:24:59.210 --> 00:25:00.580 Preserving Public Places Committee: um. 221 00:25:00.730 --> 00:25:03.129 Preserving Public Places Committee: And And you are muted, 222 00:25:04.420 --> 00:25:06.159 Preserving Public Places Committee: you could unmute 223 00:25:07.330 --> 00:25:08.689 timrudnick: how's that? 224 00:25:08.790 --> 00:25:11.539 Preserving Public Places Committee: Oh, now I can hear 225 00:25:13.660 --> 00:25:14.950 Preserving Public Places Committee: you hear me. 226 00:25:15.110 --> 00:25:18.780 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah. 227 00:25:18.890 --> 00:25:23.210 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah. So actually, Tim, I think you're probably the only person on this 228 00:25:23.360 --> 00:25:29.039 Preserving Public Places Committee: zoom who I haven't had a chance to speak directly with 229 00:25:29.840 --> 00:25:39.470 Preserving Public Places Committee: um. 230 00:25:39.560 --> 00:25:43.369 Diana: I mean worst case. You hold it up to the camera. Maybe just something. You can see it. 231 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:46.880 Diana: Do you have a physical? Uh? 232 00:25:47.310 --> 00:25:53.980 Preserving Public Places Committee: I've got the weirdest thing on my screen now, and I don't know where it came from and how to get rid of it. 233 00:25:56.230 --> 00:26:04.819 Diana: Yeah, I've got like this generic Zoom: thing. 234 00:26:05.620 --> 00:26:10.959 Diana: There's a little green line that says that you're doing Tim right next screen. 235 00:26:11.330 --> 00:26:22.300 Preserving Public Places Committee: I can hear you. But what we want to do is, have you no longer be sharing a screen. So 236 00:26:22.600 --> 00:26:26.189 Preserving Public Places Committee: yeah, for some reason, it's showing that. Oh, okay, that's on now. 237 00:26:26.610 --> 00:26:28.690 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay. So 238 00:26:28.870 --> 00:26:37.309 Preserving Public Places Committee: I don't have the printouts of these things. I mean, I can take a moment and see if I can do the share the screen. Share Um! 239 00:26:37.450 --> 00:26:45.679 Preserving Public Places Committee: It's hard for me to talk and share screen at the same time. That's why we were trying to do this. Let's see if I can do it. 240 00:26:46.730 --> 00:26:47.980 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, 241 00:26:50.610 --> 00:26:52.659 timrudnick: Are we all here in audio? 242 00:26:53.850 --> 00:26:54.860 Diana: Yeah. 243 00:26:55.030 --> 00:26:58.270 Preserving Public Places Committee: Why don't we just 244 00:27:01.560 --> 00:27:14.080 Preserving Public Places Committee: okay, Yeah, I mean, that's kind of looking like that might be what we have to do. 245 00:27:14.560 --> 00:27:15.840 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um: 246 00:27:18.120 --> 00:27:21.590 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay. Now, I do them. Okay, here we are. 247 00:27:22.170 --> 00:27:25.570 Preserving Public Places Committee: I'm giving it one more try just for 248 00:27:26.570 --> 00:27:33.199 Preserving Public Places Committee: yeah, I guess I was trying to be too fancy and do it the right way, and instead, we'll just do what we can. 249 00:27:33.410 --> 00:27:36.490 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, Here, share screen. 250 00:27:47.150 --> 00:27:59.029 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, forget it. I can't do it. 251 00:27:59.130 --> 00:28:01.180 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, Good. Well, then, 252 00:28:01.300 --> 00:28:20.960 Preserving Public Places Committee: better than I had feared. Okay, So what that rendering is is this is what I received from the Department of Oceans, and what does it call oceans and beaches? This is the harvest. Thank you. Um. So I learned actually from uh Todd, who is, 253 00:28:20.970 --> 00:28:23.700 Preserving Public Places Committee: and that neighbor who um! Who 254 00:28:23.840 --> 00:28:43.160 Preserving Public Places Committee: his mother Diane owned for building directly behind this. So on ocean front. Law um! Looking out at the ocean, they look out and see this um our lifeguard, station and tower, which was built in I believe it's one thousand nine hundred and sixty-eight um, and 255 00:28:43.510 --> 00:28:46.329 Preserving Public Places Committee: served as the main life part 256 00:28:46.370 --> 00:28:49.510 Preserving Public Places Committee: station until six years ago, 257 00:28:49.850 --> 00:28:53.299 Preserving Public Places Committee: and the lifeguard decided that it 258 00:28:53.370 --> 00:29:02.839 Preserving Public Places Committee: needed repairs, or that it wasn't large enough for their needs, and they moved their main location down to um. 259 00:29:02.970 --> 00:29:15.150 Preserving Public Places Committee: What is now referred to as Bruce's Beach. I'm told by um the post head of Lifeguards. Um! Who I thought was gonna be on the zoom. I'm sorry he's not here. 260 00:29:15.190 --> 00:29:18.340 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, but he's given me a lot of information. 261 00:29:18.610 --> 00:29:20.040 Preserving Public Places Committee: So. 262 00:29:20.330 --> 00:29:25.780 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, What has happened is okay. Six years ago they stopped using it, 263 00:29:25.940 --> 00:29:38.009 Preserving Public Places Committee: and now, without giving any notice to the public or any request for input. Um, and it is a historic building, and it does have a lot of architectural integrity. 264 00:29:38.120 --> 00:29:48.020 Preserving Public Places Committee: I'm told from people who've been up in there. It is the most awesome view of Santa Monica Bay, and the only view of Santa Monica Bay. 265 00:29:48.120 --> 00:29:53.150 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um. But oceans and harvest has decided, 266 00:29:53.310 --> 00:30:00.160 Preserving Public Places Committee: it seems, unilaterally to cut it off, and we would be left with the 267 00:30:00.530 --> 00:30:11.209 Preserving Public Places Committee: bottom story building. That is a nondescript. Uh, I would say. I saw that they would continue to use for um 268 00:30:11.510 --> 00:30:15.849 Preserving Public Places Committee: whatever they have, you know, uh trucks and tractors and things like that. 269 00:30:15.930 --> 00:30:18.830 Preserving Public Places Committee: But we would no longer have the 270 00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:23.469 Preserving Public Places Committee: historic, architecturally interesting tower. And 271 00:30:23.620 --> 00:30:42.170 Preserving Public Places Committee: so, when I learned of this, I started doing a little research to find out. How could it be that this would be done without anybody hearing at it? Then a State would. Council has not heard anything, so the building itself is owned by the city of La. 272 00:30:42.740 --> 00:30:48.830 Preserving Public Places Committee: It is to be maintained, though, by the counting um meeting Beaches and Harvard 273 00:30:48.910 --> 00:30:50.390 Preserving Public Places Committee: and 274 00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:58.570 Preserving Public Places Committee: beaches and harbors went ahead, and in July got a waiver, for 275 00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:02.400 Preserving Public Places Committee: from the California Coastal Commission to 276 00:31:02.950 --> 00:31:16.429 Preserving Public Places Committee: demo that power Um, I got a copy of that labor. It was again in their July agenda. It was done. It's called the minimus, so they just stated that it was 277 00:31:16.950 --> 00:31:20.869 Preserving Public Places Committee: in need to prepare that. They didn't want it anymore. They wanted to demo it. 278 00:31:21.170 --> 00:31:22.310 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, 279 00:31:22.550 --> 00:31:24.630 Preserving Public Places Committee: I think that 280 00:31:24.840 --> 00:31:27.970 Preserving Public Places Committee: the public has a right to know 281 00:31:28.050 --> 00:31:30.810 Preserving Public Places Committee: um if it could be 282 00:31:31.190 --> 00:31:48.959 Preserving Public Places Committee: three, you know, repaired uh retrofitted, even if the Lifeguards don't want it. What um Mickey they um retired head. Lifeguard said to me. I thought it was a brilliant idea. Is. It would make a wonderful museum 283 00:31:49.850 --> 00:31:54.820 Preserving Public Places Committee: make an awesome look out if the public had access to it. 284 00:31:55.660 --> 00:32:12.190 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, he said, that the Lifeguards have wanted to have a space for a museum for years. It would be perfect for that. Um! I also thought, Hey, I know that, um, Tim, you've been working on creating these kind of oceanarium which I know you 285 00:32:12.260 --> 00:32:26.329 Preserving Public Places Committee: been looking at having that be out on the pier. But I thought, hey? Maybe this could be a cool place for touch tanks as well. It would be great for a museum. Ocean Area museum. Great, 286 00:32:26.660 --> 00:32:41.929 Preserving Public Places Committee: good, good. I wanted to hear that feedback from me. But yeah, so. And then kind of going to what Actually, that previous motion that we just passed is also about is Dennis has very few public building at all, 287 00:32:41.990 --> 00:32:56.560 Preserving Public Places Committee: and there is a definite need for them. So I just think that this committee um preserving public places, needs to see needs to explore. If there isn't some way that that 288 00:32:56.570 --> 00:33:10.210 Preserving Public Places Committee: cool, iconic historic tower couldn't be saved, if not for the use of the Lifeguards, or one of these other uses that we've described a museum for Lifeguards, or oceanarium, or 289 00:33:10.230 --> 00:33:22.439 Preserving Public Places Committee: whomever, or just a lookout um, And you know, and of course, the question is going to be, Well, what's the cost, and what does it need? I've done a request for public document 290 00:33:22.790 --> 00:33:36.119 Preserving Public Places Committee: and just received one document, but they said, they will be sending more um, and it showed that, as one would expect, there is some a specialist tile in the flooring, that kind of thing. 291 00:33:36.230 --> 00:33:41.330 Preserving Public Places Committee: I don't think that means that a whole building needs to be torn down. Um, 292 00:33:41.420 --> 00:33:44.760 Preserving Public Places Committee: you know people have said, Oh, it has termite damage. 293 00:33:45.310 --> 00:33:50.680 Preserving Public Places Committee: Sure it does. Everything in la does. Um. I live in a one hundred and one year old cottage. 294 00:33:50.740 --> 00:33:54.630 Preserving Public Places Committee: It has termite damage, but that gets repaired. So 295 00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:57.839 Preserving Public Places Committee: you know, maybe the talk is high. But 296 00:33:58.150 --> 00:34:02.989 Preserving Public Places Committee: uh, well, what Mickey said is he thought that? 297 00:34:03.410 --> 00:34:04.410 Preserving Public Places Committee: Pardon me, 298 00:34:06.530 --> 00:34:10.919 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, Tim, did you say something 299 00:34:10.969 --> 00:34:11.899 Preserving Public Places Committee: right? 300 00:34:12.600 --> 00:34:16.470 Preserving Public Places Committee: Right? The value is, I mean, and I think it's really 301 00:34:16.929 --> 00:34:20.039 timrudnick: it'll never get. 302 00:34:20.330 --> 00:34:27.179 Preserving Public Places Committee: And yeah, it's an an amazing structure. It's beautiful as well. Um. So 303 00:34:27.659 --> 00:34:30.609 Preserving Public Places Committee: the as it. So Mickey said that 304 00:34:30.820 --> 00:34:38.050 Preserving Public Places Committee: you just kind of said in passing. Also, there may be private fun to again turn this into like our museum. 305 00:34:38.110 --> 00:34:39.109 Preserving Public Places Committee: And 306 00:34:39.429 --> 00:34:51.530 Preserving Public Places Committee: and Tim, my thinking is, you know. Maybe it can be a shared space. So I don't want you to think that that's the only option you know. I really feel that we just need to explore this and see what's possible. And I know that you have a 307 00:34:51.620 --> 00:35:03.899 Preserving Public Places Committee: You have a five o one, C three, and so maybe it can be for you, you know, whatever you know. Maybe you're raising funds, and then I also remember that Um! 308 00:35:04.150 --> 00:35:15.319 Preserving Public Places Committee: It was my brother mentioned in a Venice Neighborhood Council Board meeting recently that there is a huge amount of money for fixing up 309 00:35:15.660 --> 00:35:20.399 Preserving Public Places Committee: La in anticipation of the Olympics coming here, 310 00:35:20.600 --> 00:35:31.640 Preserving Public Places Committee: and I mean it would be an awesome venue for people to get to visit in any one of these capacity, I mean, even if it's merely a lookout tower. 311 00:35:31.680 --> 00:35:33.710 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, I want to go into it. 312 00:35:34.220 --> 00:35:35.399 Preserving Public Places Committee: So 313 00:35:35.600 --> 00:35:42.169 Preserving Public Places Committee: um todd you sent over, and I also posted that onto our page. 314 00:35:42.200 --> 00:35:51.180 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um some very reasonable considerations that your mother had um as to not having it 315 00:35:51.270 --> 00:35:56.329 Preserving Public Places Committee: the turned into something that could be um, that would add, 316 00:35:56.690 --> 00:35:58.089 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, 317 00:35:59.190 --> 00:36:00.939 Preserving Public Places Committee: you know more. 318 00:36:10.160 --> 00:36:15.630 Diana: Yeah, Robin, I don't know if you can hear us. But you're locked up right now, and then 319 00:36:30.950 --> 00:36:36.739 Diana: we we ought to get together in person. This is 320 00:36:37.170 --> 00:36:38.009 yeah, 321 00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:44.150 betsygoldman: uh-oh, Okay, 322 00:36:47.070 --> 00:36:48.120 Um 323 00:36:49.560 --> 00:36:54.199 Diana: Robin, You're you're muted right now. I think we can't hear you, 324 00:36:55.010 --> 00:36:59.349 timrudnick: Betsy, What? Hi, Kim! 325 00:36:59.710 --> 00:37:06.520 Diana: So, Robin, we can hear each other, but we can't hear you. Did you mute something or 326 00:37:09.630 --> 00:37:22.259 Preserving Public Places Committee: muted so unmute. Okay, And so, Todd, Can you Do you want to read off your mom's list or 327 00:37:22.340 --> 00:37:33.250 Diana: um, just to preserve the residential character of the neighborhood to not have things that generate a lot of noise. Um, i'll. I'll just read through what my mom's gonna thoughts were um 328 00:37:33.300 --> 00:37:42.689 Diana: didn't want additional structures. No, no retail, no homeless whatsoever. Um! No additional traffic. Now again, that's 329 00:37:42.780 --> 00:37:49.740 Diana: with the caveat that right now there's zero traffic. So it's not really literally no traffic. It's no more traffic. It's just, 330 00:37:49.820 --> 00:38:08.789 Diana: you know, something that's not going to be on the character of nightclubs or things like that may have been a bunch of noise so, and I would imagine, from a code standpoint, there's going to be an occupancy limit, anyway. Um! So you know that that's kind of the the general concept that she's just wants to make. Doesn't want the retail kind of 331 00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:13.489 Diana: chaos that goes on a few blocks to the north to be brought down to twenty-three. 332 00:38:13.520 --> 00:38:14.589 Diana: Um 333 00:38:15.210 --> 00:38:30.489 Diana: basically not disrupt the residential character. The neighborhood, if there's something like filming done, for example, um only in conjunction with improving and cleaning the area, and that the Filmers don't monopolize the parking lot. There was some filming going on a few weeks ago, 334 00:38:30.500 --> 00:38:48.429 Diana: and they pretty much had that whole south end of a lot there, and it was. It was fairly monopolized. Now again, that may have to be with the time of year we're at or in the summer. It's not in the non summer months. There's not as much of an issue, but certainly during the summer, when there's a need for all that parking. Um, 335 00:38:48.510 --> 00:38:53.380 Diana: you know we wouldn't want to have that monopolized by a 336 00:38:53.870 --> 00:38:54.859 um, 337 00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.669 Diana: and then we thought that if if there was, 338 00:38:57.790 --> 00:39:04.999 Diana: you know some negative element that the um of the other owners along the ocean plot out there, that maybe there's a way to incorporate, 339 00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:13.530 Diana: you know, proceeds from this to help clean up oceans out, walk, and maybe as others get a benefit if that's an amusement for them to get on board for this 340 00:39:14.970 --> 00:39:24.870 Preserving Public Places Committee: cool Um, yeah, I mean to me those sound like extremely reasonable considerations that I think is in everyone's interest. And I just mentioned that when you say 341 00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:41.659 Preserving Public Places Committee: no traffic. I mean, it is immediately adjacent to this that big parking lot. So um and I don't think you know, as you said, there would be occupancy limits just based on the size of that. Um. So it Yeah. But I think that all of the 342 00:39:41.670 --> 00:39:53.660 Preserving Public Places Committee: questions you raise are very legitimate, and would be completely consistent with the notion of it being, you know, some sort of small museum. Look out, whatever it might be. 343 00:39:53.690 --> 00:39:55.540 Preserving Public Places Committee: So. Um, 344 00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:58.010 Preserving Public Places Committee: we have a motion 345 00:39:58.080 --> 00:40:06.729 Preserving Public Places Committee: to ask the um to bring to the board of the Neighborhood Council. Um asking it. I wish I could 346 00:40:07.230 --> 00:40:16.749 Preserving Public Places Committee: read it to you. I didn't let's see if I can to. Can anybody pull it up on their computer and read it? Um, or maybe I can. 347 00:40:16.830 --> 00:40:20.289 Preserving Public Places Committee: I did was doing good. The other one Here, let's see. Maybe I can now 348 00:40:20.510 --> 00:40:22.899 Preserving Public Places Committee: uh 349 00:40:23.560 --> 00:40:26.669 Preserving Public Places Committee: um like car to start places. 350 00:40:26.830 --> 00:40:28.319 Preserving Public Places Committee: We promotion. 351 00:40:28.720 --> 00:40:33.049 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, maybe I can do this. Now, let's see. I did it before 352 00:40:34.220 --> 00:40:35.419 Preserving Public Places Committee: um, 353 00:40:35.900 --> 00:40:41.599 Preserving Public Places Committee: and I go down into my screen share and see if I can choose this document. 354 00:40:45.710 --> 00:40:47.579 Uh, let's see if that did it. 355 00:40:48.580 --> 00:40:50.939 Diana: Yeah, wow, nice. 356 00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:57.250 Preserving Public Places Committee: We're only forty- 357 00:40:57.270 --> 00:41:11.420 Preserving Public Places Committee: It's been to the meeting. Um, Okay. So here is the motion, and also with these motion Um, anybody has any suggestions on changing the wording anything you want to do, please. 358 00:41:11.530 --> 00:41:24.090 Preserving Public Places Committee: Uh, I I guess i'll just read through it once. But please um! We can go back and make any changes. We also can make changes if it's just to. You know the wording of things so long as the content is the same, 359 00:41:24.200 --> 00:41:32.299 Preserving Public Places Committee: even after we're offline. But we need to get this put together and vote on it um one way or the other to 360 00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:40.900 Preserving Public Places Committee: if we're going to put it forth. Okay, So then i'm going to Council preserving Public Places Committee Restoration of the Venice Life Card Station Tower, 361 00:41:41.140 --> 00:41:57.079 Preserving Public Places Committee: whereas the iconic, architecturally and culturally significant Lifeguard station tower located at two thousand three hundred ocean front walk was built together with the single store in one thousand nine hundred and sixty-eight 362 00:41:57.090 --> 00:42:10.040 Preserving Public Places Committee: as identified by the Los Angeles office of historic preservation; and whereas the building is owned by the city of Los Angeles, within Council District for eleven, as described by the Department of Planning, and whereas 363 00:42:10.540 --> 00:42:15.809 Preserving Public Places Committee: the building is maintained by the county of Los Angeles Department of Beaches and harbors 364 00:42:15.820 --> 00:42:32.000 Preserving Public Places Committee: for use by the Los Angeles Lifeguard, a division of the fire department, and whereas, with no public notice and no outreach to the community, including adjacent neighbors and the Venice Neighborhood Council, the Department of Beaches and harbors requested 365 00:42:32.010 --> 00:42:49.930 Preserving Public Places Committee: and was awarded a diminished waiver from the California Coastal commission of a coastal development. Permit a Cdp to demolish the Tower only, while uh retaining the nondescript single story, base building, and whereas the Cdp 366 00:42:49.940 --> 00:43:08.750 Preserving Public Places Committee: uh public documentation does not provide a feasibility study, nor any information as to why this unique iconic tower would be destroyed, nor that any effort has been made to repurpose it if it is no longer needed by light bars; and whereas the tower provides an excellent and unmatched, 367 00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:16.040 Preserving Public Places Committee: expansive view of Santa Monica Bay; and whereas, uh Venice has very few um 368 00:43:16.970 --> 00:43:36.950 Preserving Public Places Committee: publicly owned building, and the demand for such exceeds the availability; whereas and whereas if the tower were demolished, it would leave a nondescript, I source single story building with no merit, whereas, if demolished, the tower would likely never be rebuilt; 369 00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:40.260 Preserving Public Places Committee: and whereas, if made accessible to the public 370 00:43:40.310 --> 00:43:52.120 Preserving Public Places Committee: funds for restoration, might be available from the valley, Olympic, not for profit organizations, private donors, tourism, entities, or the public in addition to government sources, 371 00:43:52.340 --> 00:43:54.160 Preserving Public Places Committee: and whereas 372 00:43:54.180 --> 00:44:03.709 Preserving Public Places Committee: um done as community members, lifeguards, ocean ecologists, not for profit organizations, would each like to see the tower saved from demolition. 373 00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:14.160 Preserving Public Places Committee: Now, therefore, the Venice Neighborhood Council requests that the California Coastal Commission, Los Angeles Department, the County Department of Beaches and harbors, 374 00:44:14.170 --> 00:44:33.790 Preserving Public Places Committee: and the city of Los Angeles refrain from demolishing the Venice Life Card station, Tower, until the feasibility and its repairs and restoration for use by life, guard, or other purpose, such as public observation, Tower or Life Guard, ocean ecology, or other museum can will be evaluated. 375 00:44:35.510 --> 00:44:43.780 Preserving Public Places Committee: So that's what we currently have in writing something about um 376 00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:50.689 Diana: the potential for cultural enrichment or education for the neighborhood. 377 00:44:51.700 --> 00:44:52.750 Preserving Public Places Committee: Good. 378 00:45:01.860 --> 00:45:04.280 Preserving Public Places Committee: Good suggestion, Any others? 379 00:45:04.300 --> 00:45:20.049 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah. So I think I've got that uh, Helen, just to want to recruit include who we send it to. So down below it's a distribution list, and we need to fill out those exact, you know, email addresses. 380 00:45:20.060 --> 00:45:25.709 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um. We'll also attach supporting documents which again are in that 381 00:45:25.890 --> 00:45:33.009 Preserving Public Places Committee: folder that are are supporting documents that are online. Um which include actually the things that are 382 00:45:33.030 --> 00:45:38.529 Preserving Public Places Committee: referred to in this motion. Um, it It is 383 00:45:38.680 --> 00:45:48.960 Preserving Public Places Committee: curiously it. It was identified by the office of historic preservation. Um! But then they never went further to 384 00:45:49.700 --> 00:46:01.550 Preserving Public Places Committee: actually to excite visit or analyze it, so they just identified it as a potentially historic building, but have not done more, which is, I think, typical of what they do 385 00:46:01.700 --> 00:46:02.759 Preserving Public Places Committee: um. 386 00:46:03.020 --> 00:46:21.840 Preserving Public Places Committee: It also um is in the department of planning zoom. It's document the again. Each of these, I I think I linked into the our special or supporting documents. Folder. Um. So the department of planning has a category saying, Is it historic? 387 00:46:21.850 --> 00:46:24.100 Preserving Public Places Committee: And I believe they checked. 388 00:46:25.420 --> 00:46:31.470 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, or I I don't know it. Part of It's just you have to check. No, so it it, 389 00:46:31.510 --> 00:46:38.030 Preserving Public Places Committee: you know. Again, the the city does a really poor job of protecting our historic 390 00:46:38.090 --> 00:46:44.450 Preserving Public Places Committee: um monuments, and that's why this committee also felt that it need to be formed. Um, 391 00:46:44.590 --> 00:46:46.149 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay. So 392 00:46:46.600 --> 00:46:52.960 Preserving Public Places Committee: anyway, so those will be. The supporting documents will be in here. We'll also have the 393 00:46:54.140 --> 00:47:05.039 Preserving Public Places Committee: that the coastal commission filed, and if we still get other interesting documents through this request for public documents, we will attach those 394 00:47:05.090 --> 00:47:11.989 Preserving Public Places Committee: um any other comments of things that should be changed or added, or anything to this motion. 395 00:47:14.120 --> 00:47:32.650 betsygoldman: Okay, seeing no hands raised or hearing no comment, we will take a vote of the Committee members. Robin, I would spell out the distribution list like, uh California Coastal Commission Department of Beaches and harbors. That kind of thing. 396 00:47:32.720 --> 00:47:45.060 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, Can you see it there? I I Okay, Yeah, it'll be filled out. I just um. You know, this is just the initial draft. Um. So I just shorthand listed 397 00:47:45.120 --> 00:48:03.939 Preserving Public Places Committee: which departments should get it. And so yeah, and you know, maybe maybe um, somebody having to do with the Olympic. 398 00:48:05.730 --> 00:48:08.000 betsygoldman: That's a good idea. 399 00:48:19.170 --> 00:48:42.070 Preserving Public Places Committee: But, Don't, they follow what they are told to do by either the County supervisors or the No. They're separate, and they're also the commission of personal work. There's a kind of parking recreation. Yeah, Yeah. Okay. So we will add those to it. 400 00:48:43.050 --> 00:48:46.260 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um: Okay. So let's take a vote 401 00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:47.890 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, of 402 00:48:48.260 --> 00:48:51.120 Preserving Public Places Committee: um. How do you vote, Betsy? 403 00:48:51.450 --> 00:48:53.889 betsygoldman: Yes, I approve 404 00:48:54.150 --> 00:48:57.750 Preserving Public Places Committee: right. Uh, Sonya, How do you vote? 405 00:48:58.070 --> 00:49:01.269 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, Could you guys hear that, Tony? Thank you, approved. Oh, 406 00:49:01.330 --> 00:49:02.569 Preserving Public Places Committee: say it again. 407 00:49:03.080 --> 00:49:12.339 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, I think we thought you recorded on that that, he said to you through and Um and I approved. So that 408 00:49:12.530 --> 00:49:19.859 Preserving Public Places Committee: um unanimous three in favor zero, a post and zero obtaining. 409 00:49:20.070 --> 00:49:22.030 Preserving Public Places Committee: So what we will do is 410 00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:23.439 Preserving Public Places Committee: um 411 00:49:24.650 --> 00:49:41.300 Preserving Public Places Committee: make those additions to it, and um put it together and get it to the board of the Neighborhood Council at the next possible opportunity, which I fear isn't for another month. Um! The board meets tonight, and so if anybody 412 00:49:41.390 --> 00:49:58.330 Preserving Public Places Committee: is able to go on to the board meeting tonight. It starts at six Pm. And the zoom link to get onto that is on the uh Ven's Neighborhood Council website. Um, I think it would be a good idea. I've mentioned that, I think, in the last 413 00:49:58.350 --> 00:50:13.789 Preserving Public Places Committee: Board meeting I mentioned it. But if other people also go on and mention it. Um! That is always very helpful, you know. Let's get more of the board paying attention and being aware of this motion that's coming to them. 414 00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:18.540 timrudnick: They can't be there so twelve thirty, 415 00:50:18.900 --> 00:50:21.480 timrudnick: so we can make it twelve, thirty by we then, 416 00:50:23.610 --> 00:50:27.580 timrudnick: and then 417 00:50:27.670 --> 00:50:37.340 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, Tim, you're We're hearing your conversation. But um, I don't think that that was intended for 418 00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:48.340 Preserving Public Places Committee: um. Okay. So I don't know if you had. If you're able to go on the Bmc. Board meeting tonight, and in public comment on mention this: say that you want, you know the 419 00:50:49.030 --> 00:50:55.650 Preserving Public Places Committee: the board to um. Ask the county and the city um to look into 420 00:50:56.180 --> 00:51:02.879 Preserving Public Places Committee: restoring the tower and not tearing it down, and that you know we we all think that 421 00:51:03.080 --> 00:51:05.889 Preserving Public Places Committee: it's certainly merit uh 422 00:51:06.050 --> 00:51:07.379 Preserving Public Places Committee: very 423 00:51:07.490 --> 00:51:13.950 Preserving Public Places Committee: um complete feasibility. Study to see if it couldn't be um repurposed, because, 424 00:51:14.010 --> 00:51:16.059 Preserving Public Places Committee: as we all said, it's 425 00:51:16.080 --> 00:51:20.139 Preserving Public Places Committee: uh, you know it'll never get built again. And it is awesome. 426 00:51:20.890 --> 00:51:29.349 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, So that is all we have on these matters. Um going back to 427 00:51:29.650 --> 00:51:32.919 Preserving Public Places Committee: plus anybody again. If anybody has anything 428 00:51:33.610 --> 00:51:35.900 Preserving Public Places Committee: do you mention, please do 429 00:51:36.510 --> 00:51:44.029 Preserving Public Places Committee: um. Otherwise. If there's any other comments that anybody wants to make on any matters, 430 00:51:46.550 --> 00:51:52.019 Preserving Public Places Committee: please do, and if not, we can adjourn the meeting. 431 00:52:01.150 --> 00:52:19.439 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um! We will call it a meeting and sorry for all the technical issues. But, hey, we did it. We passed uh two, I think, motions that are important for the community. So let's see if we can bring those to the Neighborhood Council. Have them happen and get the city to do the right thing. 432 00:52:19.780 --> 00:52:22.479 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, 433 00:52:22.730 --> 00:52:23.680 go ahead 434 00:52:24.560 --> 00:52:26.200 Preserving Public Places Committee: by everybody. 435 00:52:26.550 --> 00:52:36.499 timrudnick: Oh, me, too. Me, too. I'm very excited about this project. 436 00:52:37.070 --> 00:52:52.610 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, we need to save it. I mean, how crazy! I just think they probably weren't thinking outside the box. You know their own uses. And oh, it's not big enough for us, or you know it doesn't have two staircases. And yeah, I think 437 00:52:52.620 --> 00:53:10.299 Preserving Public Places Committee: I I. I was talking to a neighbor who said an esteemed architect, Mark Mac, and he immediately said, Oh, yeah, it would be awesome. And he has done retrofitting the buildings. He redesigned that laundromat on Abbott Kenny to make it into lock. 438 00:53:10.410 --> 00:53:15.720 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, So you know, maybe we can even have Mark take a look at 439 00:53:15.950 --> 00:53:19.459 Preserving Public Places Committee: what should be done. So, Tim, if you have other 440 00:53:19.540 --> 00:53:35.350 Preserving Public Places Committee: resources, if you um have you know any kind of drawings, or in information about the oceanarium, I'd love to learn from you and and see if those are also, maybe supporting documents that we should put in this sort. 441 00:53:35.470 --> 00:53:41.300 Preserving Public Places Committee: You know the notion of the ability to make fun if that's needed for 442 00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:44.779 Preserving Public Places Committee: uh renovation. I mean, I know also that 443 00:53:45.010 --> 00:53:48.020 Preserving Public Places Committee: second part. If you're going to have a 444 00:53:48.570 --> 00:54:02.609 Preserving Public Places Committee: you're going to get a lease from record parts for a space. They want to see that you have the ability to maintain it. Um! So anything you have in the way of like budgets, or if you've had to put you know that kind of business plan together. 445 00:54:02.680 --> 00:54:12.279 Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, it's not immediately a need. But you know, down the line if we can work you into it, and you know that kind of thing will be helpful 446 00:54:14.990 --> 00:54:18.349 Preserving Public Places Committee: is that is, that. Have you put together a business plan. Have you done this? 447 00:54:18.500 --> 00:54:19.750 Tell you to me, 448 00:54:20.030 --> 00:54:31.959 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah. Cool: Yeah. So if we can. Um. Is that something you can share at some point that would be great. That may help this project. 449 00:54:43.580 --> 00:54:48.709 timrudnick: Bye, Robin. Bye, bye, Ellen, 450 00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:56.690 timrudnick: I just push that Don't I 451 00:54:57.550 --> 00:54:59.630 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, 452 00:55:01.950 --> 00:55:05.639 Preserving Public Places Committee: if I leave the Webinar, I think it just log out, and 453 00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:06.830 timrudnick: now I can see it.