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Evan Corrigan: hey, Jim, hi! How are you?

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Evan Corrigan: Good,

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Evan Corrigan: My, My powerball ticket

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Evan Corrigan: for two billion dollars. It's worth investing two dollars, right? Yeah, I think I

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Evan Corrigan: I gotta buy a few as well,

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jim murez: but you got like one minute to do it. I think they close at seven o'clock. I feel like there's going to be another

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Evan Corrigan: another two billion dollars in the future. It's the largest jackpot in us history, I mean. They they might not have sold the the winning ticket right?

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jim murez: There's a lot of people buy it in, though.

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Evan Corrigan: Well,

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Evan Corrigan: no, it's like one out of two hundred and fifty million.

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jim murez: But it it's funny if you If you were to buy two hundred and fifty million tickets with your odds, then be one.

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jim murez: You would get a winning ticket

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Evan Corrigan: if

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Evan Corrigan: um,

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Evan Corrigan: I think you would spend more. Well, you'd spend five hundred million, because it's two dollars a ticket.

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jim murez: I I couldn't, and five hundred million to get two billion that seems like a good investment for somebody that has that kind of money,

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jim murez: Robert Host. And then i'm gonna go finish cooking my dinner.

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Evan Corrigan: Don't forget to go out, get out and vote tomorrow if you haven't already.

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jim murez: Okay, Robert, you are hosted. Evan is co-host and i'm gonna say

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jim murez: I will stay on. But I have to go finish making my dinner

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robertthibodeau: right on, and we don't have a quorum anyway. So it's just me and I've been hanging out right now,

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robertthibodeau: unless there are

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robertthibodeau: attendee view.

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Evan Corrigan: Um participants. Um, yeah, I don't see anybody. But this is about,

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Evan Corrigan: I can say, I allow, is about to talk. She wants to say something.

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robertthibodeau: Is it Bells on?

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Evan Corrigan: Okay,

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Isabelle Duvivier: hey? I didn't really have anything to say? Hello! Thanks for unmuting me. Would you like me to say something. No, not really. I was

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robertthibodeau: clicking on a bunch of different tabs to see if perhaps some of the rest of the parking transportation

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robertthibodeau: was on. I'm going to start texting people.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Okay, i'll meet myself.

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Evan Corrigan: Selena's here.

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robertthibodeau: It looks like we got people.

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robertthibodeau: Selen is on. Okay. And then Allison.

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robertthibodeau: Uh So actually, I mean with Selena we have a forum if we want to get started with the regular stuff, and I think, uh,

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robertthibodeau: if Allison is,

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robertthibodeau: we'll see how we do

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robertthibodeau: um Selena, We need to

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robertthibodeau: change rule to attend the main coast.

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robertthibodeau: is it an attendee? What am I asking her to be?

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robertthibodeau: Panelists

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robertthibodeau: didn't see that as an option

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Evan Corrigan: I just There's Elizabeth.

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Evan Corrigan: You see it? Yeah.

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Evan Corrigan: So

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robertthibodeau: hi! I'm a panelist now.

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robertthibodeau: And who else do we have

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robertthibodeau: your clay?

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robertthibodeau: See it on.

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robertthibodeau: So,

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robertthibodeau: Kevin, do you have the option of making them panelists, or is it attending? Is a panelist?

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Evan Corrigan: I can promote to panelists? I see Daniel

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robertthibodeau: promoted me back in one sec,

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Evan Corrigan: right

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robertthibodeau: uh, and Allison's updating her zoom right now, so she'll be on in a sec, too.

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robertthibodeau: Um,

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robertthibodeau: Do you want to do the

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robertthibodeau: since you've got the power of the gavel right now. Do you want to do the um?

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robertthibodeau: The roll call will just uh add Allison when she gets on.

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Evan Corrigan: Yup, Sure. So

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Evan Corrigan: um

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Evan Corrigan: all to order and roll call.

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Evan Corrigan: Robert

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robertthibodeau: here,

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Evan Corrigan: Elizabeth

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Evan Corrigan: having here

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Evan Corrigan: Selena

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robertthibodeau: and Jim this year

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robertthibodeau: or was here.

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Evan Corrigan: Okay, Allison will be on what she updates her uh

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Evan Corrigan: zoom made or do it. So i'm really multitasking here, taking notes, too. Um, Can we

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Evan Corrigan: review and adopt the notes from the previous

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Evan Corrigan: meeting.

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Evan Corrigan: Anybody has any.

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robertthibodeau: Did you? Did you put those up?

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Evan Corrigan: Yep,

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robertthibodeau: Dude, You are a champ. Thank you.

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robertthibodeau: Um. So motion to adopt the the minutes

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Evan Corrigan: second it

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robertthibodeau: so. Does anyone see a reason not to adopt them?

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robertthibodeau: No, okay.

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robertthibodeau: This is good. Hold on one second here.

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robertthibodeau: And also could we make a note that the meeting started at seven? Zero five

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robertthibodeau: uh Allison raised your hand

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robertthibodeau: You got it.

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Evan Corrigan: Yeah.

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robertthibodeau: Great

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robertthibodeau: uh, I know in the past. I think

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robertthibodeau: you kind of just did it. Yes,

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robertthibodeau: so we'll say uh

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robertthibodeau: That was uh four zero, right, four, zero zero.

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robertthibodeau: And honestly, I don't know if you have to or not, we could ask Jim if he pops back on

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Evan Corrigan: let me share

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robertthibodeau: public public comment

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robertthibodeau: non-agenda items related to parking and transportation. Only, please.

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robertthibodeau: we have

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robertthibodeau: Isabel in the audience is about. Do you have any call uh public comment on transportation things?

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Evan Corrigan: Nobody.

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robertthibodeau: I don't see she might not be on right now.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um, I guess I could mention that, to my delight uh urban forestry and Bureau of Street Services repaired a sidewalk on superb uh, about three years ago we got a tree removal notice for two trees, two camp for trees and

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Isabelle Duvivier: um. We argue that they should work around the existing trees, and it took them three years, but they finally did it, and they did a terrific job. You should go by it. It's at Superb and Lincoln Boulevard they were able to narrow the sidewalk to three feet around um the two trees, and then they expanded it in between the two trees. They also had to widen the driveway which they were able to do, but it was a lot of effort. It was. There were about twelve people there from the city.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um! They had to cut the roots. These are camphor trees, so there's certain species of trees that you can actually cut the roots, and they'll survive camphor and fikus, or some of those trees.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So I would say that was a win-win, and you should go take a look at it. I'm really delighted. Those trees are just gorgeous, and the whole street has really a bad sidewalk. So i'm hoping that we can use that as a model for the rest of the street.

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Isabelle Duvivier: It also helped a lot. Then Um, Esther Marguelis lives on that street. She's with the West La Planning commission, and three years ago, when they wanted to remove the tree, she wrote a letter suggesting ways that they could work around it. So I think that was actually the motivation they had to um to make this a case study

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robertthibodeau: was this: east of Lincoln or east of Lincoln across the street from that um

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Isabelle Duvivier: that little fast food.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah, I know the sidewalks on the west side are super narrow, and uh would make this such an operation fairly difficult, but I think they're a little wider on the East Side.

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robertthibodeau: Hey? I've got a question for you. Can you trim roots on a sycamore tree, ie. The one in front of my place. Yeah, because they're pretty hardy, Aren't: They? Yeah, I got one lifting the sidewalk, all right.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah, uh, you know, I would have an expert to it, someone who knows how to do it, and you don't want to trim the whole thing. You just want to kind of trim the top part. Just I just one one root perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Deep water it multi.

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robertthibodeau: Now, it's the time to right following one. That was the perfect time. Finally. Yeah, I'll probably make that announcement at the Vmc. Meeting that, if you know, if you're going to trim a tree now would be the time, not during the hot summer.

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robertthibodeau: Yes, we can.

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Evan Corrigan: Okay, cool.

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Evan Corrigan: Um:

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Evan Corrigan: Okay. So new business. Do we want to start with Selena's motions from rack or the app and Kenny traffic line.

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robertthibodeau: Um,

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robertthibodeau: my my vote would be the rack motions. I think they'll go fairly quickly, and then, you know you can kind of take your time on the Advoc anything.

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robertthibodeau: I think this meeting is going to be short. By the way, I I don't see this as being a a long meeting.

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robertthibodeau: I think Kevin

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Evan Corrigan: and Daniel but um,

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Evan Corrigan: I could use a second if if you wanted to. Thank you. Yeah, all right. So the first one we'll talk about is the motion regarding speed limit reductions.

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Selena Inouye: Um. Earlier this year the California Legislature had passed a motion that would allow cities to reduce the speed limit on a street by five miles per hour.

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Selena Inouye: Um! And this passed uh the State Legislature and the city of La then went and implemented. This

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Selena Inouye: they did the um five mile an hour uh speed reductions on streets that had recently had a traffic study.

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Selena Inouye: Um, and part of that council file that's referenced in this motion has a list of all the streets that have that five mile per hour reduction in speed limit.

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Selena Inouye: This motion from rack, though, was a request from all of the fourteen Member Councils that moving forward,

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Selena Inouye: that the Member Councils be involved in any decision making with regards to further uh speed limit reductions on additional streets,

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Selena Inouye: so that that be a dialogue between the neighborhood councils or the community Councils and La do T. About what streets are causing a problem in each neighborhood

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Selena Inouye: in addition. Um! They also we. This motion asks for more than just reducing the speed limit, but also putting in traffic coming measures, so that when the speed limit is reduced that doesn't cause

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Selena Inouye: uh traffic to then uh divert on to neighborhood streets in order to um avoid any uh

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Selena Inouye: reduction in speed that would cause any kind of backup or people to move slower than they would like to, and I believe that in the motion there are talks about the different coming measures which include things like compact traffic circles, many roundabouts, restricted turns,

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Selena Inouye: curb extensions, or bulbouts, speed humps and tables, um diagonal diverters, half closures, full closures of streets and Median barriers to reduce the cut through traffic issue.

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Selena Inouye: Um!

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Selena Inouye: So this is for us to consider, and and again it's mostly Does the Vnc. Want to tell La do t that they want to be involved moving forward in selecting which streets should have this five mile an hour or a five mile per hour, reduction in the speed limit

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Selena Inouye: there any questions,

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robertthibodeau: so would we put a motion forward to support the rack motion, and then take a public uh public comment, and then a board comment on this:

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Selena Inouye: Yeah, I think I think so. We would pass it like any other motion, and in addition, what we could do as a neighborhood council is that um on the Council file we can submit a a Cis,

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Selena Inouye: a community impact statement, and it basically, states that the Venice Neighborhood Council wants to be part of any discussions moving forward on streets in Venice that are um being considered for the speed limit reduction.

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robertthibodeau: Okay, Um. And I see B and C support. So I don't

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robertthibodeau: uh you have it.

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robertthibodeau: Um,

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Selena Inouye: Oh, I think maybe Evan plugged in Vmc. At when, on the motion uh the rock motion, I think there was probably just a space there to put the name of your Neighborhood Council.

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robertthibodeau: I can Do you want a second at Evan seconded. Okay, we have. We have Selena

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robertthibodeau: we have um

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robertthibodeau: neighborhood, or we have a public comment. What's that word? Sorry Spacing out public comment.

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robertthibodeau: Um,

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robertthibodeau: you see hands, Evan, You I can't see anything I see. Isabel.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah, I was just gonna mention that Eric Stein, who lives on Mount Millwood and Oakwood is Um

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Isabelle Duvivier: has been trying to work with his

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Isabelle Duvivier: connections at the Mayor's office to get a round about. Put at that intersection.

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Isabelle Duvivier: It's a really really really broad, wide intersection which the city recently put some cones around. I I don't know if you've seen those colorful cones that one of the neighbors put. Yeah, So he wants to put like a landscape medium or um the middle. So we're sort of in discussion with that, but that should probably take a couple of years to get

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Isabelle Duvivier: um done. But I I support the motion,

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robertthibodeau: and do we have any other public?

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robertthibodeau: I see nine participants.

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robertthibodeau: Any other hands up?

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Evan Corrigan: No.

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robertthibodeau: And you'll see. Oh, Daniel, you're waiting to Okay, So we'll get Daniel on next.

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robertthibodeau: Okay, uh board. Comment on this.

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robertthibodeau: Come on, I, Alison, you probably get something on this one, right?

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robertthibodeau: Nothing to say here. My only comment is, I love the little reflective tape things that they did on the uh, those ugly white Ballards on Millwood that that really had a sense of humor, and I thought that's pretty funny.

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robertthibodeau: I agree. That's why I was laughing Right? Yeah, it's nice when you can do something that's like non destructive. And at the same time little little poke of fun.

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Evan Corrigan: I have a question. So you know, I I think this is all really cool. Um!

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Evan Corrigan: So

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Evan Corrigan: I've seen like streets that they outline for reductions. Is there any way to request, like other streets, that they might reduce the speed limit by by five miles an hour?

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Selena Inouye: Um! So this is what that motion is about that that the Vnc. Would be able, you know, would have a conversation with the idot about further streets for this five mile an hour. Reduction um

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Selena Inouye: moving forward. I I I I have to look, though, and see if the requirement is. Is they have to have a recent traffic study or not, though,

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Evan Corrigan: and how in that conversation it's yet to be determined how that would kind of come to fruition.

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Selena Inouye: So I envision this, and I think the the rock mobility and transportation Committee envision this as being. We pass this motion. We send, you know, a A. We make a community impact statement. We possibly send a letter to led Ot

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Selena Inouye: and the Cd. Eleven, and tell them, hey? Moving forward, we want to be a part of this conversation. So you know, the next time you're going to identify streets. Uh, please let us know so that we can give you our input. And also perhaps recommend streets that aren't on your list.

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Evan Corrigan: Cool

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Evan Corrigan: sounds good. So we uh vote on that.

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robertthibodeau: Okay,

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robertthibodeau: You want to do the roll call?

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Evan Corrigan: Um

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Evan Corrigan: awesome.

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Evan Corrigan: Uh Elizabeth.

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robertthibodeau: So since daniel's waiting, and i'm sorry I didn't realize he was waiting. Let's let's move over to Daniel's thing, and then we can do the other rack motion, so we don't keep him here, and I mean you can welcome him to stay, but unnecessarily.

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Evan Corrigan: So Daniel was kind of collecting community feedback about a lot of speeding happening on out of today between uh Venice and Washington

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Evan Corrigan: We, I think, over the last meetings. We had some discussions and came up with solutions, and um, we tabled it last meeting just to have something more concrete.

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Evan Corrigan: So those are those four suggestions. Um:

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Evan Corrigan: So for months members of the community living adjacent to a Kenny, between Venice and Washington Boulevard, then reaching out, requesting traffic coming Um approved bike infrastructure uh safer crosswalk at the intersection of mar and Avocado Boulevard

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Evan Corrigan: last month I presented a meat board of some things we could do to kind of call the traffic Um, those included raised crosswalk at the intersection of Mar and have a kidney um possible current bulbouts um filling in some of the slip lanes, maybe now with

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Evan Corrigan: increased costs, crossword visibility at Mar Street and Aberkinney. Someplaying removal and crosswalks, said Washington Way was on Avenue and Angela's place, Victoria and press Maureen

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Evan Corrigan: uh what those could look like, you know, painting the crosswalk to make it much more visible.

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Evan Corrigan: Um cool. That's it. Sorry I went really fast through it. Um!

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Evan Corrigan: The three four things where crease visibility on Mar Street navigating crosswalk, moving the slip lanes, adding crosswalks,

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Evan Corrigan: So I said, whereas for months actually i'll pull up the motion all right.

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Evan Corrigan: We're as for months members of the community living in Jason to Avenue Boulevard between Venice and Washington Boulevard have reached out to the P Ptc. Um, requesting traffic, calling measures, proof bike, infrastructure, and a safer crosswalk, and a sidewalk. At the intersection of Mars Street and Avocado,

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Evan Corrigan: the Ptc recommends that Vnc. Approves suggestions of safety improvement

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Evan Corrigan: In addition, the Ptc. Recommends the V and c. Distribute these suggestions to Cd Eleven

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robertthibodeau: So if we're going to have public discussion and for discussion on a motion, then we need to make the motion.

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robertthibodeau: So it did. We. Did. You just make the motion?

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Evan Corrigan: Uh I can make it.

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Evan Corrigan: What do I say? Make a motion?

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Evan Corrigan: I'll make the motion.

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Evan Corrigan: Do I have a second

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alyson wilson: full second of motion?

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alyson wilson: Yeah, it's a really nice presentation. So let's open it up to um public comment before.

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Um before we have board. Comment.

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Evan Corrigan: Isabelle.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Hi, um!

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Isabelle Duvivier: I wonder? Do you know i'm not really familiar with the mobility plan, But my understanding is the mobility plan may have a bike lane on Abbott Kinney, and I know streets, for all has been trying desperately to get the city Council to

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Isabelle Duvivier: um actually implement the mobility plan. Are you familiar with what they have planned for on Abbott Kinney?

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Evan Corrigan: Sorry.

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Evan Corrigan: Give me a second

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Evan Corrigan: um. I think they

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Evan Corrigan: they have like um

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Evan Corrigan: kind of a bicycle root marking

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Evan Corrigan: They don't have dedicated bike lanes or protected by plans in the mobile mobility plan. Now,

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Isabelle Duvivier: great. Thank you. I love I love the uh, the the dedicated bike lane, of course,

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Evan Corrigan: but all the ideas are great. Thank you.

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Evan Corrigan: When those huge slip lines. So if we go forward with. This would be really cool to collaborate on that.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah. And there's already some really nice sycamores on there that were planted by tree people like twenty years ago, I think. Thanks.

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robertthibodeau: Do we have anybody else? I see ten participants to have anybody else participants.

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robertthibodeau: Um!

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robertthibodeau: That. Wanna and you should take your hand down.

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robertthibodeau: Um,

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robertthibodeau: we have other uh members of the public who want to speak before we get into board. Comment

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Evan Corrigan: Daniel.

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Daniel Z.: Um,

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Daniel Z.: hi uh, Evan. Yeah, thank you for, uh presenting this, it it looks great, and it definitely consolidates. I think

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Daniel Z.: a lot of the issues um, and makes it um gives more clarity clarity uh going forward as like what might work, what might help to solve the problem. Um, I just think overall it should be clear to

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Daniel Z.: la dot, et cetera, that it's all tied together, you know, like seeing how they first approached Abbott Kenny, by just putting in the two asphalt sides and say, throwing down cherrows just as disconcerting, say at least, because it's like how they made things worse. It's, you know the cross walks. It's about

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Daniel Z.: everything you have here. Um, However, the the bike lanes are implemented. Um,

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Daniel Z.: yeah, the B. The bicycle boxes that I mean. Just yes, that's all I can say, and it's all it. It is all tied together, and I think that they should. That should definitely be uh clear, that it shouldn't be like a piecemeal thing out of out of this. You know It's It's It's uh

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Daniel Z.: people coming off the side streets. If you get the speed down um, you know it should be thirty miles per hour. A car should be traveling Fs. But they're traveling forty to fifty, plus, you know, coming out of

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Daniel Z.: these side streets. It then it's it's more reasonable to expect people to be able to get on to avid Kenny. But right now you have to gun it, you know. So it is. It's just all Um,

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Daniel Z.: it has to be looked at holistically, and all these pieces fit together. Yeah, Thank you again.

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Evan Corrigan: Yeah, Thanks for

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Evan Corrigan: for making the original presentation

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Evan Corrigan: cloud I

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Evan Corrigan: to consolidate, And it's kind of a mouthful all these issues. But appreciate your your help,

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Daniel Z.: of course.

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Evan Corrigan: Okay, John Tapia.

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John Tapia: Yeah. Just commenting on what he, Daniel said, it's very piece meal. I always end up taking electric. I come down Venice and I go right on to electric because

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John Tapia: forget going on, Abbott Kenny. Right now.

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John Tapia: It's like a battle zone

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John Tapia: There, just my comment about how during that that stretch

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John Tapia: No. I

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John Tapia: of Venice to Main Street.

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Evan Corrigan: Yeah, thank you

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Evan Corrigan: uh, we move on to

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Evan Corrigan: any uh board, comment.

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robertthibodeau: I'm trying to raise my. I do it the right way.

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alyson wilson: Oh,

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robertthibodeau: do you mind if I go first. Lena.

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robertthibodeau: So love everything uh on the um

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robertthibodeau: on the presentation, and then I I separate from that. I think the presentation itself was quite good. Just the graphics and clarity of it.

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robertthibodeau: Um, my one thing I worry about is um. I feel a little bit like

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robertthibodeau: if we were getting this presentation,

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robertthibodeau: which I believe uh you've largely put together, Evan. If we were getting this from

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robertthibodeau: a um kids uh member of the public public

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robertthibodeau: um

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robertthibodeau: in the past, like with the um speed bumps and stuff we've asked them to reach out

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robertthibodeau: and um

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robertthibodeau: to canvassing and um,

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robertthibodeau: I just worry that. Uh we've we've heard from Daniel. He's articulate, and he was one who brought this to us. We've had a couple of other people on here, but this does. It's a pretty Major Push,

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robertthibodeau: and I wonder if people know what's going on if we should be dropping. You know a door flyer

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robertthibodeau: or something, and say, you know, show up at a meeting.

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robertthibodeau: You don't. I see you shaking your head on that,

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Evan Corrigan: you know.

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Evan Corrigan: Like

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Evan Corrigan: it. Would you know if we could, you know, send it talk to led ot and bring to their attention, and then they could start to do that actual planning and community outreach, and

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Evan Corrigan: you know, flyers, and they have. I mean, get them on board with the project kind of thing, because it would definitely. It's a lot of people,

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Evan Corrigan: a lot of apartments, a lot of different things. Um, so it I feel like you know, this scale would need to be the city like

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Evan Corrigan: involved in wanting to do this and reaching out to people. Um!

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Evan Corrigan: That kind of thing it would be like.

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Evan Corrigan: This is what the community wants. Um!

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Evan Corrigan: It's. It's more of like an idea, and we should start the conversation. Kind of thing.

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robertthibodeau: Okay, Um.

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robertthibodeau: So if we make the motion

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robertthibodeau: God, I hate it when people delay stuff.

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robertthibodeau: But I I kind of feel like we should, we? Should,

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robertthibodeau: We should Um!

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robertthibodeau: We should be getting more participation from uh the residents of Avid Kenny, and even frankly, the surrounding like first block up, or something like that. I feel a little funny. But anyway, that's my comment. I'll I'll let it let it drop.

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Evan Corrigan: I know you said a few other neighbors have. You know you've been talking about this and stuff.

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robertthibodeau: We're all pretty strapped for time, you know. Would you be able to? I'd be willing to help to. I live here also, right I live on. I live on basically at that intersection. You're talking about with the with stuff.

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Daniel Z.: Yeah, I have. I would have no problem with that if if if you needed collecting more support. However,

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Daniel Z.: in what whatever form that takes signatures, or just getting people to come to a meeting. Um, if you think it needs to be done before Robert, rather than hey? La, do t, and then going after, if you need if you want to get more voices. But I I I do feel I could get more people.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah, no doubt I have no doubt. I just feel a little funny about trying to. I feel funny about passing something or not passing because all we are. Is it

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robertthibodeau: right? Recommend we first Level recommendation,

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robertthibodeau: but it I know. I know, for much smaller things we've asked for much more community

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robertthibodeau: uh outreach

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robertthibodeau: and um that's that's again. I like all the stuff on here. That's the only thing that I kind of have a little bit of a,

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Daniel Z.: you know, buzz going in my brain on that one. Would it be signatures, or would it be actually people showing up to the meeting? And

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robertthibodeau: I keep thinking we should do what La Dot did, and just drop something on the front porch of the places up and down Abukini, and maybe the first couple of houses going up, which I again, I'd be happy to help with on that, and then say, Show up at the next meeting, and then if they don't show up,

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robertthibodeau: you know.

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robertthibodeau: But again i'm open to input, to. You know we have an outreach committee and and

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robertthibodeau: got a President and Vice President.

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Evan Corrigan: Yeah, i'm not as familiar with how you guys do that. But I've seen people do like a change, dot org. Let's see what Selena has to say on this.

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Selena Inouye: Well, first of all, Evan, I I I You've done a great job on this presentation. I really like it, and it all. I I also like that. You have kind of alternatives. Um, I mean I I. I know that you know the protective bike Lane is kind of

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Selena Inouye: your goal, but on this street, with so many intersections, and they're not being traffic lights there. A more traditional bike lane or a buffer bike lane actually might be safer. Um,

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Selena Inouye: I I looked while while you were talking, and and before I tried to look on the led Ot website. They have a map where they're supposed to show where their bicycle enhance networks are, and their bicycle networks, are, and for some reason I can't get their map to work. So I know from

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Selena Inouye: the Venice Community plan that there is actually plans um

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Selena Inouye: for Abbott Kinney in the commercial area. Um, and they talk about making changes there. Um, I don't know, but I can't see the Ledo team map, so I don't know how that extends to to the rest of Abukini.

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Selena Inouye: So I just wanted to let you know about that. It. It exists, but the map that shows it currently isn't working

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Selena Inouye: um. The only other suggestion I have just to dovetail, and what Robert said was that for for things like um preferred parking districts, I know that the requirement is to go out and get what is it? Two-thirds of the neighbors to sign on

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Selena Inouye: in order for that to move forward, and i'm wondering with this project

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Selena Inouye: if you approached it that way, and got the signatures of the people that were interested, and then took that to Ledot that you might actually get more traction from led to to move forward versus relying on them to do the outreach. Um,

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Selena Inouye: I think, in a lot of the presentations I've seen recently from led ot. They keep talking about how understaffed they are, so I think it may. Might behoove you to do the outreach and get the numbers, and then approach led ot to kind of get it onto their calendar

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Selena Inouye: um and on their radar that this is a project that community wants to get them to them, start moving forward on it.

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Selena Inouye: Um! Those are the the two ideas I have. That's all.

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Evan Corrigan: I think the buffered bike lanes.

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Evan Corrigan: I agree with you that it might make more sense. The protective ones are also kind of

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Evan Corrigan: getting a bit tight, and people don't really like to feel so tight between a curve and a

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Evan Corrigan: hard place.

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Evan Corrigan: Um, with that outreach,

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Evan Corrigan: I mean. I have a a bit of time I can help with that, Robert said he could do it, Daniel, so you can do it. But

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Evan Corrigan: contacting two through the neighbors might be a little.

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Evan Corrigan: We might be a little straps as well.

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Evan Corrigan: Um,

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Evan Corrigan: I don't know if Robert has any other

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Evan Corrigan: other thoughts. You're right, so we know they are. They are strapped as well. Um, the active transportation planners at La do t

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Evan Corrigan: um. Yeah, maybe we could.

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Evan Corrigan: Could we like circle offline in an email? Maybe I could just think on it, and

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robertthibodeau: we could come up with a plan, we should we delay this motion a month,

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robertthibodeau: or do you think the motion? We should do the motion now? Because if we do the motion. It's going to go to V and C. And the the opportunity for outreach, I mean. I guess we could in the next

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robertthibodeau: two weeks to our outreach between Ptc. And Vnc. But we'd have to really be on it. Okay, Could we do a motion where we discussed this at the V, and of like. This is a proposal, and that way some more members of the community can kind of see it

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robertthibodeau: I don't know.

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robertthibodeau: Well, let's do the motion, I mean, do you want to do? Let's see the motion that you made a motion of? I mean you made a motion. We seconded the motion.

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robertthibodeau: But I I only brought up, you know. I know what would be asked, what What would be asked of other people, maybe between now and the B and C meeting,

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robertthibodeau: You know we could do either some door knocking or um, or uh stuffing of uh mailboxes, and say, look, this is, and we can ask for um sima to help us out

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robertthibodeau: because she can advertise it

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robertthibodeau: on the website.

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robertthibodeau: Maybe that's okay, you know. Maybe that's good. I don't know.

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Evan Corrigan: I I do agree. You know

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robertthibodeau: this is not about saying this is not chopping it down on everybody's throat, but just time realistically. We've heard from, you know two to three people on Abbott Kenny. You know of the several hundred that you know

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robertthibodeau: from. If you take from Venice Boulevard to Washington. Uh, you know you're You're probably talking, you know,

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robertthibodeau: several hundred people at least.

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robertthibodeau: So so i'm. I'm committed. I will, Daniel. I will go to help help do some of this over the next couple of weeks,

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robertthibodeau: if we're going to push this forwards.

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robertthibodeau: But let's see, let's see how the boat goes.

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Daniel Z.: Is there a budget for like leaflets, or anything like that to hand to people, or

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robertthibodeau: uh, we'd have to talk to him about what we could get. You know, Sima, and uh what's his name?

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robertthibodeau: Um,

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robertthibodeau: there wouldn't be one at the pace that this would go to the Dnc. Meeting. I suppose we could delay when it went to the V and C meeting if we needed to to

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right

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robertthibodeau: right.

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robertthibodeau: I don't think any of it's going to happen physically happen tomorrow, so I mean meeting the actual changes, hey? One thing

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robertthibodeau: that I've noticed as I've looked at the bike planes sort of a little bit sidebar in Santa Monica. They paint them that pretty green color right? That sort of bright green color in la to the ugly things I've ever seen like. Could you pick a non a more non-visible color for your bike lanes, like when you're in Venice. Boulevard

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robertthibodeau: it's like

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robertthibodeau: green grape. It might as well be camouflage like any color they use might as well be camouflage and

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robertthibodeau: I. The whole point is to make drivers aware of what's going on. Sort of in your roadscape as you're driving. It seems incredibly ineffective, because sometimes there are bike lanes. And frankly, you can't even read that. There are bike lanes there as you're driving. I mean, I've been sort of noticing these things regarding the Venice Boulevard stuff.

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Evan Corrigan: I I actually asked Pamela about that, and they're they're out of green pain,

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robertthibodeau: Covid. And you know I think a lot of cities started implementing by claims, and Gotcha city city of ten million doesn't have to pull to get green. So we're going to use light grade.

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robertthibodeau: We can't borrow some from the city of Santa Monica or pay for it. Maybe that's why maybe Santa Monica used it all up

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robertthibodeau: all right. Let's do. We should take about this. Uh

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robertthibodeau: It's Selena. Say her thing, is it? We have any other comment Board comments.

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robertthibodeau: All right.

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robertthibodeau: You need to.

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Evan Corrigan: Okay, i'll make

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Evan Corrigan: the motion,

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Evan Corrigan: the the caveat that we're going to do outreach

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Evan Corrigan: of some sort.

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Daniel Z.: Signatures.

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Evan Corrigan: Do I have a second

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alyson wilson: I'll second that.

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Okay,

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Evan Corrigan: um.

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Evan Corrigan: So let's vote on it.

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Evan Corrigan: Uh, Elizabeth.

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elizabeth: Sorry. I don't know what's going on. My computer. Yes,

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robertthibodeau: yes,

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Evan Corrigan: Selena.

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Selena Inouye: Yes.

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Evan Corrigan: Uh awesome.

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alyson wilson: Yes.

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Evan Corrigan: Okay. So five

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Evan Corrigan: zero Yeah. Sweet.

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Evan Corrigan: Yeah, it's It's weird. We'll have to.

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Evan Corrigan: We'll circle back how to do the outreach.

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Evan Corrigan: I think that'll be very important for sure.

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Evan Corrigan: Thanks for listening.

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Evan Corrigan: Thanks, Daniel.

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robertthibodeau: A presentation, too.

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Evan Corrigan: Yeah, no, no problem. It's bothered me for a long time.

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Evan Corrigan: Um.

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Evan Corrigan: So item number nine. This is brought to us by Selina.

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Evan Corrigan: Um. So i'll let you take it over.

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Selena Inouye: Okay. So this is another motion that came out of the rack. Mobility and Transportation Committee, and this was based on the um image that I had shown you uh last time when we met uh the

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Selena Inouye: what happens when you take a lane away from the street, and where the traffic goes.

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Selena Inouye: Um! And actually

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Selena Inouye: can I share my screen?

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Evan Corrigan: Absolutely

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Make sure I have it up to

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Selena Inouye: do. You have to make me like a co-host or something to do that.

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Evan Corrigan: Oh, um

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shoot,

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Evan Corrigan: can you? Um, Robert? Do you have an option to allow her to share?

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Selena Inouye: I think He just stepped away.

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Evan Corrigan: Do you want to just email me?

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Selena Inouye: Actually? Um, if you go to the West Side Council's website, if you go under their motions

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Selena Inouye: and the pending motions.

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Selena Inouye: If you click on the link as his background document, there's actually a a link in that document to the file.

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Evan Corrigan: Let me um. I think I have it here.

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You

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Evan Corrigan: okay,

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Evan Corrigan: this right here and then Yeah. So if you scroll down

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Selena Inouye: yeah, go ahead and click that background information,

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Selena Inouye: and then scroll down.

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Selena Inouye: And if you click on figure twelve,

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Selena Inouye: there we go. And yeah, you can make it bigger. So

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Selena Inouye: this was a conversation that that the rock mobility and transportation Committee had about this whole idea about. If you take a lane away from a street, it obviously redistributes the traffic and cars go other places. And Um,

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Selena Inouye: I think, uh

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Selena Inouye: a number of people have asked

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Selena Inouye: in connection to this new Venus full of our project.

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Selena Inouye: Where? Where's the traffic going to go? Um, you know there are data that they shared, said that ninety-four percent of the people that live on the West Side have access to a car.

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Selena Inouye: And um. I think only six of people are using the bus uh to commute. I I don't think they have the information about uh running errands, et cetera, on public transit, and I think, like one to two of of of people, use their bike for commuting.

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Selena Inouye: So

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Selena Inouye: one of the requests that the rack, mobility, and Transportation Committee. What wanted to see was a modeling study done by led Ot for this new Venice Boulevard project.

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Selena Inouye: There's a big concern that, taking the lane away and extending the road diet that's in Marvista, and making it almost four miles long, like where our car is going to go.

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Selena Inouye: And it's interesting because the folks in palms who kind of got the ball rolling on this project are actually now asking that question, too, because they're experiencing more car traffic in palms

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Selena Inouye: because of the changes that Culver City did in downtown Culver City, where they took a lane away for cars. Um! And they kind of reconfigured their downtown area.

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Selena Inouye: And there's a report actually on the city of Culver City website about that project, and it shows that vehicular traffic is down on Washington Boulevard in Culver City. So the question becomes, Where Where did those cars go?

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Selena Inouye: Um, Because there's not a corresponding increase in the number of people taking public transportation or in biking.

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Selena Inouye: So basically this is just a request from La to La to to please do this modeling study before you take the lane away. I I think the main

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Selena Inouye: concern here is that cut through traffic issue, that, taking the lane away

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Selena Inouye: without providing modes of transportation that people will transition to

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Selena Inouye: is going to cause a huge traffic nightmare on our side of

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Selena Inouye: you know, of the city?

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Selena Inouye: Um,

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Selena Inouye: and the other thing that a lot of people in that has talked about even way back in two thousand and seventeen, with the road died in Marvista. Is it prevented them from getting out of Venice from getting home.

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Selena Inouye: Um for those of uh folks. Who are. We're heading east in the morning to commute and heading west, then to come back in the evening. So

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Selena Inouye: that's.

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Selena Inouye: And and we touched about this, too. And we talked about this, too, in our committee as well, so that's the gist of the motion. Just are there any? Does anybody have any questions?

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Evan Corrigan: This is public public calling now?

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Selena Inouye: Well, I actually wanted to see if any of the Board Committee members had any questions before we move on to the public comment.

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Selena Inouye: Anything I can clarify about the motion.

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Evan Corrigan: So

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Evan Corrigan: the okay, this is just for the section between

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Evan Corrigan: uh Inglewood and Lincoln,

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Evan Corrigan: or

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Selena Inouye: well, ideally, because the La Dot says eventually, they want to take this project from Lincoln to National. If they're going to do a modeling study, we should ask them to just do the whole stretch. Although, Evan you saw

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Selena Inouye: I don't we haven't talked about it here, but um, Evan and I were out of presentation with the marvellous to Community Council last month,

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Selena Inouye: and when led, Ot said that they were going to do two, a two phases for this project right? They were only going to focus on Inglewood to National right now and then they were going to come back and do um Beethoven,

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Selena Inouye: but Then they took it down to ocean front lock like it's next year or the year after. So

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Selena Inouye: actually, we kind of need to get them to come back and ask them why they've changed it from Lincoln Boulevard to Ocean Front walk, and

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robertthibodeau: what exactly they're planning on doing between Lincoln and Ocean Frontlock We have requested. We, Evan and I have reached out to Eric Um and La do, to request that they

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Evan Corrigan: present to us again with the revised plans. I think we're just so underwater right now.

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Selena Inouye: Um, You said they were going to present to Marvista last week up to the plans, but I don't think that happened.

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Selena Inouye: So yeah, it would be to ask for the modeling study for the the entire length of the project to figure out where cars are potentially going to go right, because we want people to embrace alternate modes of transportation, but that's going to be difficult. If this project causes

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Selena Inouye: a lot of traffic nightmares for people. I think people are going to get too focused on the you know the cut through traffic and traffic on other streets, and they're not going to focus on the bus or or taking a bike when they can. Um, you know, if this project doesn't,

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Selena Inouye: talk about where traffic is going to go and have a mitigation um plan upfront to handle it. Um versus what they were talking about at the meeting that Evan and I was was at, which was

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Selena Inouye: that we'll come back at an undetermined point in time, and we'll talk to you about what you see, and then we'll figure out what we can do

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Selena Inouye: um That doesn't seem to be very

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Selena Inouye: proactive planning.

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Selena Inouye: And in the meantime it seems like it's gonna cause a lot of potentially cause inconvenience for a lot of people, and unfortunately, when you're asking people to change their behavior generally, you offer them something and encourage them and entice them to change their behavior versus

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Selena Inouye: taking something away and having it viewed as being kind of punitive or some kind of a punishment. Um, more people will um change their behavior with the carrot, then they will with the stick. So I I think we just need this information, and we need to understand what's going to happen.

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Evan Corrigan: Yeah, I think it would be very proactive

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Evan Corrigan: um to get ahead of some of those

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Evan Corrigan: issues of cut through traffic.

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Evan Corrigan: I feel like I've been in other cities around the world, and they really

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Evan Corrigan: do a great job of making sure that people are not cutting through side streets and stuff, and

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Evan Corrigan: it'd be really cool to address that before it becomes a problem. So the next time one of these projects comes up,

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Evan Corrigan: as you said, you know it wouldn't be the main issue of concern.

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robertthibodeau: Um, let's take public comment. Let's see public comment. We go back to book on that. I mean, I I think everything's legit, but I feel like it's public comment time.

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robertthibodeau: Um, I don't see any hands up,

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Evan Corrigan: John

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Evan Corrigan: Nathan

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robertthibodeau: Daniel, and uh oh, John,

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John Tapia: no, it looks good. If this is what you guys want is more

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John Tapia: data from them. I I guess. I'm. I'm still unclear in the motion. The motion is to request L. A. D. Ot. Do this study.

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robertthibodeau: Selena's nodding. Yes, that that's what I understood, too. John got it all. All we're asking is that if they're going to make major changes, that they have some sort of traffic study in place that we can look at.

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robertthibodeau: Daniel.

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Daniel Z.: Um. Do we know if they've done anything?

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Daniel Z.: Excuse my ignorance of just the process the um like this. Yet, like today, it seems like this would be something you would one of the first steps.

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Selena Inouye: Is this this information? Does this data exist, or any any form, you would think right. So if I can answer that question, this graphic is from two thousand and fifteen, and this was back when they were doing these specific plan updates for the west of light traffic, improvement Plan and the coastal transit corridor specific plans.

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Selena Inouye: Um.

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Selena Inouye: This was done by their contractor. Fear and Peers led Ot's contractor. Um, All it takes really is getting the traffic data, the traffic study data and and plugging it into a computer model that would then

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Selena Inouye: automatically generate this information. That's what fear and Pierce did they? They did this. They added a link, and they showed what would happen, and then they subtracted the link, and they showed what would happen. Um!

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Selena Inouye: So it's possible to do this. I did go looking for traffic studies on Venice Boulevard, and unfortunately I haven't found any recent traffic studies. I think the the um last one I found was from two thousand and seventeen,

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Selena Inouye: and I was looking at different segments on Venice Boulevard, so it may require them to do a traffic study which wouldn't be such a bad thing either, to have a better understanding of the traffic on Venice Boulevard.

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Daniel Z.: I think it makes total sense. It's. Yeah, absolutely.

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Evan Corrigan: If I might just chime in to that response, I think I apparently address that question to you? I asked. There, um! They're doing this section separately and going all the way to the beach just because it is

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Evan Corrigan: so complicated, and I think they do want to get more data. Um. So they want, you know, to do it over a few years.

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Evan Corrigan: Um: So yeah,

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Evan Corrigan: um! Should we go to

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Evan Corrigan: forward comment

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Evan Corrigan: for coming anybody,

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Evan Corrigan: Robert?

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robertthibodeau: Yeah, I mean uh me making a request for them to provide data. Just seems like a natural thing to do. So i'm going to Echo, I believe, was John or Daniel's uh comment, and uh,

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robertthibodeau: definitely voting in favor of this

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Evan Corrigan: anybody else

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Evan Corrigan: should we make a motion?

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Evan Corrigan: Oh, um! Do we make? We? We make the motion and then forward Comment: Right?

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Evan Corrigan: So let's make the motion.

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Evan Corrigan: Okay,

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Evan Corrigan: I second it.

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Evan Corrigan: Ah any more board comment.

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robertthibodeau: We We we did things out of order there, guys. We should have made that motion. I think we've already had public comment. Uh, Daniel, did you want to say something else? I see your hands still up.

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robertthibodeau: We done done with comment here

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robertthibodeau: and then board. Are we good Here,

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robertthibodeau: then, apologies for the out of order.

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robertthibodeau: I didn't catch that

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Evan Corrigan: uh Robert

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robertthibodeau: Yay

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Evan Corrigan: Selena. Yes,

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alyson wilson: yes,

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Evan Corrigan: Elizabeth,

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Evan Corrigan: Five zero zero

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Evan Corrigan: comments on items not on the agenda for consideration.

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Evan Corrigan: Nobody.

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Evan Corrigan: I think we're good. We've finished early.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah. I guess my my only comment on things that are sort of on the agenda and sort of not on the agenda was to bring

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robertthibodeau: the rest of the uh committee up to date that the mob, because i'm not sure if everybody knew that um, but that in the public, too,

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robertthibodeau: the portion of the mobility plan, and that it was mentioned in the last one. But it was not the topic.

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robertthibodeau: The portion of the mobility plan from Venice, High or Beethoven,

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robertthibodeau: through Venice, has been modified and delayed. So apparently it's been delayed for a year That's what we've been told to kind of through the grapevine. Not directly we've reached out to Dot to try and get more specifics,

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robertthibodeau: and apparently the design of it is also changing. So whereas it was going to end at Lincoln Boulevard before now, they're talking about um making it go all the way to Pacific or Ocean front, which

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robertthibodeau: um again, we don't have any details for that. But um, that's just an update for the public and for the board. Um, and we'll try and find more information and get to to talk to us about what the revised plans are

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robertthibodeau: meeting future.

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Evan Corrigan: That's it, and cool. The only other thing. I was gonna.

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Evan Corrigan: I didn't have time this month. But, uh, i'll reach out. Santa Monica has a cool Lincoln Boulevard landscaping plan. Um.

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Evan Corrigan: They had proved it right before Covid, so I don't know what happened, but

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Evan Corrigan: so if I can find any more um information on that, so we can

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Evan Corrigan: just keep working on. That is, Cal Trans. Gets a Lincoln pull of our back to

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Evan Corrigan: to La.

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Selena Inouye: And actually for a future agenda item, can we get someone to come back and give us an update on the link in fast forward project.

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robertthibodeau: And when they're going to

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robertthibodeau: i'll i'll, I'll do that. I've got the contacts for that. Yeah, I heard. Actually, Caltrans is working on some of the right away.

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Evan Corrigan: You know they're we're doing some Ada changes to the sidewalk. So they had to

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Evan Corrigan: kind of deal with some of the business owners along that stretch. Um, I heard that about a month ago, maybe

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Evan Corrigan: from the

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Evan Corrigan: harbor community. But

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Evan Corrigan: Yeah. Good. Good. Good call.

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robertthibodeau: Okay. So uh, let's call the meeting. Uh: very well done, Evan. Thank you.

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robertthibodeau: No,

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Selena Inouye: thanks.

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Evan Corrigan: Oh, we just call it We're good. Okay, cool.