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vicki halliday: Jim, can you promote me so I can let people in. Thank you.

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vicki halliday: I'm having troubles getting it working. Give me a second

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vicki halliday: um. You are promoted to a panelist already.

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vicki halliday: Alright, you're a co-host. Now, okay, let me start. Letting people in.

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vicki halliday: This Frank hung up, and his once once the host hangs up. I should have done it because I mean he was having some issues. Do you want to be the host instead of I mean, I Don't care I can do that and make him co-host.

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jim murez: So, Frank, you're now co-host you have almost all the same capabilities. But i'm about to make uh Vicki, the host. Pinky, Stop whatever you're doing for one second, so I can make you host.

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vicki halliday: Okay, you're now host

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vicki halliday: the Cj. On your committee,

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jim murez: Erica Venice speech. No, I i'm on it, Jim Kennedy. Okay, I was just gonna help, all right. Well, i'll say goodbye. Call me back if it craps out again.

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vicki halliday: Well, i'm not getting anything uh vicki

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vicki halliday: don't leave again. No, I won't.

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frank murphy: I don't know what the hell uh well what that was. I was co-host, so if the host left, which was you, Then you just stopped the the.

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frank murphy: I saw that as soon as I as soon as I

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frank murphy: hit it I go. Oh, shit.

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vicki halliday: Okay,

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Jody Mortimer: so do you do something about that?

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Jody Mortimer: Is it because we have two?

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Jody Mortimer: Um. Jack is sitting next to me on the on his. So one of you is going to turn it off.

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vicki halliday: I mean he can have his picture on, but he has to have his sound off, which is too close.

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Jody Mortimer: Okay, How's that?

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Jody Mortimer: Much better? Thank you.

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Jody Mortimer: I just tried it. I think it

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frank murphy: understand.

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vicki halliday: Yeah. Uh Stan

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vicki halliday: Elizabeth, Jodie myself. You there are five of us here. Brian Won't Be here. So we're ready waiting on collect.

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frank murphy: So that will be late.

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vicki halliday: Uh, so we can start.

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frank murphy: Yes, we can.

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frank murphy: Okay, so um, I apologize. My camera is uh messing up on me. It was

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frank murphy: spotting in and out, and now it's gone completely. I'll keep trying to get it back on again. Um! All that being said uh,

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frank murphy: let's do a roll call. Um,

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frank murphy: Frank and i'm here.

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frank murphy: Brian's absent. Colette will be in a little bit later.

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frank murphy: Pat is absent at this point in time. He's going to show up over here, I guess eventually, so we'll see

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frank murphy: uh Liz

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frank murphy: is here.

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vicki halliday: Well, but we've not heard her speak.

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frank murphy: Liz, can you uh

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frank murphy: unmute yourself? There you are.

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Elizabeth Wright: I'm here.

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frank murphy: Okay, Vicki's here, Then speaking Stan:

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Ansar Muhammad: Where is it?

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frank murphy: And Jodi

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frank murphy: Jody,

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Jody Mortimer: I'm: here.

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frank murphy: Okay, so that that gets that uh the minister posted for last uh last meeting. Um,

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frank murphy: there Really, there was no motion on there, no vote. So uh,

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frank murphy: is there any comment, or uh otherwise, i'd like to? Uh um,

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frank murphy: um!

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frank murphy: If there's any comment on the minutes, Is there any changes that need to be done or anything. Does anybody have any comments?

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vicki halliday: Okay, I'll make the motion to.

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frank murphy: Okay,

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frank murphy: Uh: So uh, I vote. Uh, yes, on the on the uh minutes.

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Elizabeth Wright: Who who seconded,

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vicki halliday: I think you

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frank murphy: and uh uh, Liz,

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frank murphy: your on that.

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vicki halliday: Thank you. Yes,

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frank murphy: Stan.

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Ansar Muhammad: Yes.

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frank murphy: Jody

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Jody Mortimer: here. Okay,

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frank murphy: I have a uh,

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Jody Mortimer: I think a little bit of a um

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frank murphy: of my comment that I want to make as far as the chair report.

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frank murphy: Um!

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frank murphy: I want to state again

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frank murphy: that the homeless being accommodated on the streets and sidewalks of our community and the city as a whole,

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frank murphy: is the most inhumane, brutal, and unsafe emergency shelter solution for both the unhoused and housed populations.

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frank murphy: We on the west side of La represent quite possibly one of the most wealthy and highly educated communities in the world,

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frank murphy: and this is the best we can do.

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frank murphy: This is not a zero sum game jail versus street, as some would have you believe. I've been aware of multiple solutions for cost effective emergency shelter presented to the powers that be. From this committee from the Board, members of the Vmc.

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frank murphy: Clark Brown and Jim Muir as in particular, and from knowledgeable and compassionate people of the Venice community.

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frank murphy: Anyhow, that's that's the only

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frank murphy: report that I want to make.

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frank murphy: And uh,

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frank murphy: so we should uh go to the next item, which is the homeless round Table.

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frank murphy: Um,

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frank murphy: and I wanted to uh

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frank murphy: welcome Zach the Luca.

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frank murphy: How's it going on your name? Right?

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frank murphy: Yeah. I'm. On Jonathan Jones monitor to prevent the sound thing from that perfect perfect. And I just wanted to reiterate that this is a panel of current and recent recent homeless people focusing on their story and their concerns, needs and wants one homes.

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frank murphy: So we're kind of trying to model that. But

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frank murphy: you can go anywhere you like,

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frank murphy: uh

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frank murphy: communicating with us as to what your situations are.

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frank murphy: We'll have a presentation, and then A. Q. A. With the committee after the presentation from yourself.

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frank murphy: So uh,

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frank murphy: Jody, you want to um

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frank murphy: to uh introduce Zach.

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Jody Mortimer: Sure uh I wanted to. Uh Zack I've known, for I think a little almost two year now. Um We met in the twelve step uh program over at Mac. Recovery. Um, and uh, he's done really Well, he's uh

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Jody Mortimer: that helps. I know he does a lot of work with the with the youth and teach the music. He's very talented. You've probably seen him on uh the tops of cars, playing his guitar, his electric guitar. And uh, he's currently living in your car for quite a while, and I think he's got quite a story of where he's coming, how far he's come

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Jody Mortimer: uh, uh, and there you go. Zach!

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Jody Mortimer: How's it going?

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Jody Mortimer: Said I'm zach um!

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Jody Mortimer: And I think just the

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Jody Mortimer: I believe. Just to quote Frank again, you said something about just kind of reiterating the fact that what my essentially my needs are and um.

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Jody Mortimer: You know what I we can do in the community to make, you know homelessness less stressful, for like a better one.

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Jody Mortimer: Um, a little background.

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Jody Mortimer: Been homeless for a while. Uh, not intentionally, you know. Um,

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Jody Mortimer: I'm very lucky at drawing a short stick,

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Jody Mortimer: you know uh part of it systemically. Part of it, you know some of my actions didn't really

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Jody Mortimer: match what I wanted to, you know represent, I guess.

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Jody Mortimer: Um! I started in the last those fifteen homeless uh

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Jody Mortimer: you know it was always hungry. There's no one anywhere for like Miles.

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Jody Mortimer: Um, you know things got better than I had gotten the job. Things like that,

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Jody Mortimer: and eventually moved back to California.

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Jody Mortimer: And when I got here it was just prior pandemic, I, you know, had a relationship thing. Go down, And I, basically. You know, decided I need to start living in my car, because, you know,

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Jody Mortimer: no one should be putting ourselves through any kind of help. Um, that's all side notes.

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Jody Mortimer: Basically once I started like once I was homeless, it became a lot harder in La, or even in the I where I was at at first.

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Jody Mortimer: The um get a job, even, you know, like that things kept happening. Ids kept getting lost uh, or kept getting toad, and you know, like when you live in it, it's your lifeline. And uh,

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Jody Mortimer: yeah, So it gets real frustrating, and you always got to start from zero again, and you know, without a job or for a shower even, you know you can't really go looking for a job smelling and look in all grows.

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Jody Mortimer: So, you know that was tough

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Jody Mortimer: getting um,

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Jody Mortimer: you know, just in general trying to get around and find people that were hiring, and most people were, and if they were. You know it. Just

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Jody Mortimer: it didn't work out for whatever reason.

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Jody Mortimer: Uh, you know, the people more qualified who are homeless and living don't live in their car, and it just it becomes tough. It gets harder and harder as you go. And um.

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Jody Mortimer: That being said, I get to Venice, and eventually I just started doing music, and I looked out, and i'm able to make kind of a living on it.

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Jody Mortimer: Not much of one, but it's enough to at least sustain food. And you know, every once in a blue moon, a shower, and things like that.

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Jody Mortimer: Um. But yeah, So that being said month, recovery is when uh Jody and I met. I was, uh, you know, trying to get sober. I've been on the streets for too long, and there's a lot of bad habits that come with living on the streets.

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Jody Mortimer: A lot of it was internal when things were constantly a struggle.

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Jody Mortimer: You naturally want to escape from that reality, because it's not for anybody involved.

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Jody Mortimer: And so, you know, I was

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Jody Mortimer: doing the whole drinking and drugging thing, and it was not exactly a good thing. I worked hard. I showed up to my recovery with a shopping cart um a bag of clothes,

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Jody Mortimer: and uh, i'm lucky to add my guitar. But you know I would have gotten someone if I stayed out there any longer. The weather would have gotten it, or,

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Jody Mortimer: you know, in general things would have happened. And uh, you know,

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Jody Mortimer: plus, you know the police don't make it any easier. You know they they kind of put us in a rock and a hard place, you know they want us to not stay in our car, and then all of a sudden, want us like Don't want us to sleep on sidewalk, and we got nowhere to go. So there's things like that that become problematic. Um,

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Jody Mortimer: you know, like I said, when they tell your car or anything like that man that matter, you know you just don't have like.

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Jody Mortimer: If you don't have a place like it's

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Jody Mortimer: it's a whole new mission, you know, taking the cake while you're down doesn't feel good.

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Jody Mortimer: Um,

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Jody Mortimer: you know that being said, there's a lot I would like to present it. That would be,

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Jody Mortimer: You know I feel useful in the community

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Jody Mortimer: uh starters, hot showers, and I know that sounds weird and kind of out there, and probably sounds very expensive. But, uh,

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Jody Mortimer: you know, at least like

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Jody Mortimer: one hot shower a day. So we can actually look for jobs, you know. Um, they have a lot of programs out there to get ids and stuff. So it's not necessarily a big issue. However, it gets frustrating and expensive. If you don't have those programs,

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Jody Mortimer: i'm gonna get to that. I promise.

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Jody Mortimer: So yeah, um, Not having your store, your stuff. That's a big one. Um. I had expensive guitars

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Jody Mortimer: lived outside, and you know people are when you're out there. You're

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Jody Mortimer: really just trying to survive, and you need to do whatever you can to make a dollar, because, like I said earlier, jobs were kind of hard to come by, especially when you smell like, and you know

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Jody Mortimer: you don't have any clean clothes. It's not easy, you know, and there's more educated, more qualified people to do that same, said minimum wage job. That's kind of a ridiculous. Begin with,

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Jody Mortimer: you know, if you're willing to work, you're willing to work. I don't see the big issue. But you know, not being, said I in la I've noticed It's like a very high standard

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Jody Mortimer: for a very fair minimum

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Jody Mortimer: kind of a position in life is.

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Jody Mortimer: I don't know I wouldn't say It's fair, because you know it is. But having somewhere to store your stuff safely would be a very solid thing to do for the community. Um,

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Jody Mortimer: you know people are getting robbed all the time, and they're losing some of their most prize possessions that are family heirlooms. Things like that, you know that. Just take a mental toll on people, and not only that, but it sometimes It's a valuable item that you know

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Jody Mortimer: they they're trying to keep. And you know, when you lose that it's just more defeating, you know it leads to more uh escapism drug use Uh, you know, you're gonna end up.

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Jody Mortimer: And so

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Jody Mortimer: so yeah, it is only to just a dark place, you know. And then people get stuck in stagnant in that lifestyle because of the fact that it's not

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Jody Mortimer: easy to sustain. If there were things we could do to, you know, make it easier like I said hot showers. I was thinking of laundry hard,

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Jody Mortimer: you know, for a certain amount of loads of laundry a week that would be something. Talk to like local laundry mats and stuff, and see what you could do, so you can have clean clothes,

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Jody Mortimer: you know. I'm. I'm lucky now I don't have to struggle with that as much beforehand. It was a cost and battle You'd be wearing the same thing for a week, because, hey, it's all you had and be. You know you don't have money for laundry, and when you do have money you want to spend it on food because you're starving,

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Jody Mortimer: and then you know, here,

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Jody Mortimer: out of money, so

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Jody Mortimer: it's not easy to acquire, especially without doubt.

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Jody Mortimer: So you know showers laundry. Um, you know I don't know if then it started something already on this. But you know, if someone lives in their car like, and it's like obviously live in their car, and they're not driving on the road physically with it,

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Jody Mortimer: and like you know, the I mean that that's all good, but it's like the tags are out of day or something. My news like that. If we decide to tell your car,

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Jody Mortimer: you know, basically put you back to Ground Ground zero, and then you know it's hard, you know, especially in La There's bus. The bus system is pretty nice out here, but it's still very time consuming, and very hard to get to these interviews, or even these jobs

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Jody Mortimer: in a timely manner. And that's a you know. So when someone does have a car it's like their lifeline like I said earlier, it makes a huge difference in their quality of life.

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Jody Mortimer: Um, yeah, Laundry Walkers, That's I

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Jody Mortimer: been thinking about that for a while, you know, when I was struggling a lot harder, I was killed to have a locker somewhere, to put my stuff safely where I knew it wouldn't be best with or tampered with, or rained on, or who knows what? We're lucky in California? Doesn't rain that much? But you know winter's coming, and who knows?

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Jody Mortimer: You know um

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Jody Mortimer: doesn't make it any easier.

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Jody Mortimer: It's ten, you know. There, there are programs that do provide little things like that, but it doesn't make it

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Jody Mortimer: and easier. What i'm trying to get at is like The shower thing is a big one, you know,

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Jody Mortimer: uh showers, lockers

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Jody Mortimer: Oh,

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Jody Mortimer: this is my biggest bullet points honestly aside from, you know, like you know, if you know someone's just mess with them, you know. There's a guy uh we were just out of seven, eleven, and he's struggling really bad. You know what you're doing now with with your part time work.

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Jody Mortimer: So

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Jody Mortimer: basically this guy wasn't asking for money like you know some people do when they do that. Typically, it's like they actually need it, or sometimes they're on drugs, and it's kind of you know,

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Jody Mortimer: half and half. It's kind of hard to like gauge that sometimes this guy was genuinely asking for like sweaters, a sleeping bag, and because he left his stuff unattended for ten minutes,

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Jody Mortimer: either a neighbor through a way or who knows what happened? But it's gone, and now he's sitting there, and it's pulled out now. So he's sitting there, having to struggle with that today, and it's already hard enough, as I already elaborate on. So

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Jody Mortimer: you know, If you find minimum wage jobs for people who are struggling, because not everybody who's homeless has an Id. It gets lost somewhere while it gets stolen, or who knows what happens? But There's a lot that happens out here when you're outside, and it's like you never know what's going to happen.

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Jody Mortimer: yeah, I don't know. They have like the At Home Depot Day labors that are not really on the books. I'm sure we can rent something like the same thing here, right? I mean, that's thing, you know, like

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Jody Mortimer: I don't know what's going on personally with the businesses, but, like you know, they're having. You have super high requirements, for of like a monkey can do kind of job kind of messed up, you know, like there's people out there who genuinely needed who are starving. And there's people the people they're hiring typically are like

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Jody Mortimer: kids that live at their bridge and Parents' house like, and i'm not saying that they should be excluded from having a job. I'm saying that's like, you know. There's people who need it more than others, but are less qualified or less stressful to hire.

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Jody Mortimer: And I understand that Yeah, The lack of documentation is another thing, too, you know, and I understand that dilemma. But it's very hard for us to have a,

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Jody Mortimer: um, that being said, what would you want me to library what you're doing now with your job, and where you're coming up by, You come to see that. So

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Jody Mortimer: it's pretty far since Alaska and all this other. I've come very far. Honestly.

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Jody Mortimer: Um, we've gotten sober, you know the streets will do that, too, and it was hard because I got over on the streets, which wasn't any easier.

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Jody Mortimer: give them a new course. Um, You know, any of those negative emotions dealing to try to translate show them how to actually make three, or out of music, or in general, just how to make career for themselves. In general, like there's so much we do. There we go to the jails, the juvs, and sometimes schools,

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Jody Mortimer: And you know a lot of people who live in their cars also get shunned by like locals or neighbors, and I understand the dilemma. I really do, but like, you know, people got nowhere to go where you're just gonna the the police do this, too. They like, tell you to move right to go

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Jody Mortimer: to go nowhere. Essentially they this. They're not really putting you up in places, I mean. I heard seeing Joseph doing that for a little bit. But I knew a couple of people who went with that program, and uh

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Jody Mortimer: like he was beyond grateful for. But again, finding a job is still tough when you're not that qualified, and you don't have all the documentation. It takes time to get that documentation Sometimes it's not easy.

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Jody Mortimer: Sorry I I don't really know what else to elaborate on. I mean, there's a there's a whole list. And I mean question by question, i'm sure I can.

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frank murphy: Yeah. Why, don't we? Uh, why don't we uh

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Elizabeth Wright: Zack, i'm! I'm taking the minute.

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Elizabeth Wright: Do you feel comfortable spelling your first in last name?

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Elizabeth Wright: Because I want it to be Zack.

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Jody Mortimer: I mean It's It's It's decorated. But you could just write Zac and then my last name is De Luca.

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frank murphy: Okay, Okay, Pat. Oh, no, wait. I'm sorry, Elizabeth, you done.

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Elizabeth Wright: Were you born in Alaska? How did How did you get to Alaska?

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Jody Mortimer: I've learned a lot since then, but you know I got in trouble with the law for a little bit, and uh they gave me a good deal of it involved switching parents and switching states in order to not be California's liability.

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Jody Mortimer: And uh, so I get out there, and then a month later get kicked out of my home, because, you know, I'm no longer having to check in for probation or anything like that. So it's It's complicated. That was more of a personal whole life issue.

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Jody Mortimer: I I didn't travel a lot, you know. Um that was in the military like I said my mom was a dancer, which is a horrible combo. Um! And so that doesn't help I like to travel, you know.

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Jody Mortimer: Um, This is actually Venice in particular on the west side. La, I keep coming back to this location. I don't know why everybody asks me that, and this is like

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Jody Mortimer: I guess it's trying to make home, and it's kind of hard when you already, when you don't have family or roots, or any of that to really start from, you know.

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Elizabeth Wright: Okay, I. I do not know exactly which services, but I know there are services available that will get you documentation, and Ids

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Jody Mortimer: right. I I I elaborate on that I know they have that just like I said. Living outside is um.

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Jody Mortimer: and then you'll have. Sometimes they'll have one free voucher, and then again, stuff will happen like you. You'd be surprised. I mean it's so quick you get robbed. You get um, you know, just like the guy earlier today. I was talking about He All his stuff was in his sleeping bag, and someone just okay, Yeah, no worries.

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Elizabeth Wright: do something to help that situation, you know. Uh a security card locker room, You know. I I know it sounds crazy, but it's pretty simple when you put it that way. You know it's simple until you start multiplying it by the number of homeless.

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Jody Mortimer: No, no, I understand that. Trust me, and it keeps growing. And you know Jobs Aren't: exactly growing, either. So I mean and supposedly they are. But like I honestly, everywhere I look, I'm: kind of doubting it.

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PatRaphael: Yes, uh, Thank you, Jody, for setting this up. Uh: sorry about the

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PatRaphael: this tech issue that I've been dealing with for the last couple of months.

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PatRaphael: What's interesting and cool about Venice is, even if you don't know people, you kind of know them.

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PatRaphael: Uh so, even though I don't know Zach Mozac, but I've seen his face. I've uh

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PatRaphael: kind of. I know he plays guitar on the boardwalk or something like that. So uh, so basically what I wanted to

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PatRaphael: to have him kind of put a human face to. You talked a little about the laundry cards he talked about uh being able to uh have a place to store things and things like that

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PatRaphael: And what are the local service agencies like St. Joseph in the circle. What is your level of contact with them? I don't know if that was a question that was touched on before, because my little contact isn't really thorough um like I said it was a friend of mine who went through that program. I didn't know about it, and I was already

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PatRaphael: in a car, and I felt, you know, content at the moment. As far as looking for housing goes, You know the price is for you from your car, and try to speak to you or do, because I always notice that the people who are in more dire situations

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PatRaphael: rightfully seems to be what they concentrate on. So anybody who was dating by Who's kind of. When I was in a tent. That was exactly what it was the same. Justice came and feed, fed us, and stuff and things like that when I was in a tent. But you know

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Jody Mortimer: I worked hard to get out of that situation. So now I didn't feel like I needed their services as much, which is why I never thoroughly reached out when it came to the housing situation. However, you know.

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PatRaphael: Yeah, have you considered looking for housing just on your own, just like uh looking at the pages and seeing, because because the reason i'm saying this is uh the stock of housing is really not available, and when you do see something, the amount of money they're asking for

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PatRaphael: that. An average person who's trying to make it on their own usually doesn't have any other option than trying to just stay in their car, and you know, because um, for lack of better words, gentrification. Um,

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Jody Mortimer: I've looked for places countless times when I was in a position to do so, and you know, getting a job again is already hard enough out here, and then, you know, for a minimum wage job, even. Do you even pay for like what they have you do out here? Is it so expensive for what I don't know but the um

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Jody Mortimer: to share a shoe box? Essentially you're still paying what most people would pay their average month of rent, and that's kind of you know. It's a defeating concept, especially when you're struggling hard for your money. It's like you don't want to see it go to waste, or for your needs not to be met. You know a lot of them. Don't even have, like,

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Jody Mortimer: you know laundry and stuff like that, you know. I mean not that that's a big issue. They haven't quite often, that's you know, when you're in a position to do so it'd be ideal. But like you said when they do have one they want like you said Astronauts the price um,

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Jody Mortimer: and you know that's just kinda It makes it hard, You know they They're selling to people who can afford it already, which is understandable. But, like you know, there's people who really need that. And it's worked really hard. And because someone makes more I've seen the price one time. One thousand two hundred is what someone was asking for a one bedroom in Venice, and uh,

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Jody Mortimer: someone else can. I went to go look at this apartment with a friend.

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PatRaphael: So so you do. You do some work. It's not money. It's just not

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Jody Mortimer: So they have shelters, but they fill up quick, and you know there's still people out there. Um! That being said, it's hard. It's. I don't know how to exactly elaborate on that, because it's not. I still don't live in a house I wouldn't know, you know.

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Jody Mortimer: I'm, i'm trying here if you'd re elaborate that real quick it'd be.

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Jody Mortimer: I'm not early.

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frank murphy: So uh

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Ansar Muhammad: Well, I mean, i'm listening, but I definitely appreciate with that

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Ansar Muhammad: i'm always solution driven. If I have my way exact, you'll be working for my agency, doing outreach to the homeless population in Venice and beyond

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Ansar Muhammad: lived experiences, all we and we need to. We need to really get down the road a little bit, and i'm hoping whoever get into um

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Ansar Muhammad: And I think that conversation I've already started it with both

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Ansar Muhammad: people like Zach, I will be hired straight up. Um! I'll be giving him twenty-five dollars an hour.

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Ansar Muhammad: He'll be working at least thirty hours a week.

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Ansar Muhammad: And here have been a a a location, or he'll be responsible for a certain part of Venice, and he would be the one responsible for identifying individuals who

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Ansar Muhammad: and make it very clear that if you're using dollars that's tax dollars to serve the homeless population, you're not. Nobody will lived experience from Venice

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Ansar Muhammad: we should. We should. We should ask that the Government to snatch all the contracts up,

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Ansar Muhammad: you know. I i'm not. You know. You know. I get Frank. I'm gonna go. Why? Because i'm a bit quiet, because it bothers my heart. It bothers my soul. It bothers my spirit when i'm when i'm in my neighborhood, and i'm seeing what i'm seeing, and it's millions coming down for housing, for mental health services. But nobody's hiring people with lived experience like that.

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frank murphy: What I what I was

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Jody Mortimer: Um, yeah, I could um my issues in right now. I mean, I would love to do it more often like you said thirty hours a week, and that's like a lot of time, and i'm very thankful and appreciate it as a suggestion. I I just got a job in a industry that I've been working so hard to even be a part of.

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Jody Mortimer: So that being said, I mean, I could do it like part time, and i'd definitely be into that. Um, That' be

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Jody Mortimer: rewarding work just like what i'm doing. But Jack's definitely got a license to operate in the area. What do you mean? Oh, yeah, I'm: I'm: glad to hear that part. Yeah, I just you know my issues like I I wouldn't be able to do that full full time, only because I do have my other job. And this other job like I said, I work. I'm just now, seeing all the fruits of my struggles and labors

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frank murphy: that's the point I was trying to make. I'm on board with that again. I'll help you out with your number if that's okay, that'd be great. Appreciate you, man. Jodie, do you have a Do you have a question for Zach to bring forward?

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Jody Mortimer: I have It's more of a comment. Um, I think that, uh, like I said, Zack definitely has a uh as a, as as a as as a as like, so like,

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Jody Mortimer: and um I mean you barely set two words at a meeting when we first thought Oh, I got hated, you know. Sobriety does a lot of good things. And then again, I want to. I want to put out the The muck recovery is really It's done a little wonders for some people in the new book. They've also done a lot for the homeless to spy. Um. But yeah, there's a lot of organizations that look as dove into a very wonderful person.

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frank murphy: How did you, Zack? Um

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frank murphy: What what changed your uh,

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frank murphy: I I i'm sorry. What was that? I couldn't hear you too Well, what changed your um attitude that you were able to come out of that with people die for me. I don't know if you're talking to Jody or me.

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Jody Mortimer: Yeah, it's tired of watching people die. They're overdosing. People are getting shot at um. People are robbing one another. Just stay alive, and it's like

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Jody Mortimer: part of me understands it because of how how it can be out there, you know, like I really do. I? I get it. But you know It's also at the end of the day,

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Jody Mortimer: morally dehumanizing to oneself. It. It becomes hard to live with yourself like that, and it's just It's kind of no fair like I. I I hate to pull that card, but it really isn't like people who are struggling. They don't get the help they need,

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Jody Mortimer: and they just they're they're stuck. They're rocking a hard place. They can't go anywhere aside from where they're at, and it makes it tough to progress, and my perspective is change. Yes, I got sober and stuff that necessarily wasn't part that has changed.

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Jody Mortimer: Well, the tool it did help a lot, actually. But you know that being said, you know, it just took like a simple couple. Few people, just, you know, being kind, even if it was like Jody. Uh when I first met him he helped me out with a shower. It was

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Jody Mortimer: biggest blessing I had, because, you know, showering at the beach. I mean, Yeah, there's showers there, and you could do that. But like I've had to find someone because they try to take my pants with my keys to my wallet and everything in it. You know what I mean. Like six in the morning. You're kind of shower for work. That's the last thing you want to do, especially in the cold.

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Jody Mortimer: you know, if I can speak personally for me, and with the muck recovery they have It's they it's There's a lot of creative types there, I think, like that just fit in with that kind of crowd. She has a whole different Uh,

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Jody Mortimer: there's a just a whole wide range of different types of meetings, but they have a creative type and just made it very. You know a couple of people really spoke his story. And uh, that's what it takes. You know

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Jody Mortimer: the other people in the neighborhood, Did you? Just uh seeing Zach as an individual and seeing this potential, this guy because he he could be in his,

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Jody Mortimer: You could be in a a professional studio with the way place I am. But no; But besides the point, though it really what it was just, you know, is there like because I noticed a lot of people out here.

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Jody Mortimer: They talk about the homeless, and I hate that. Those words right there when they label it the homeless. Those are people, they the homeless, and it's not like some kind of a I. I don't know It's like just kind of demoralizing, and you know they treat people a different way, based on appearance, and that is also foul, You know. Um,

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Jody Mortimer: they look at someone they see they're down and out, and instead of helping them or asking what they could do to make their day better. They um, they just kinda sh them or avoid them, or like walk across the other side of the road, because they're scared, and it's like

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Jody Mortimer: There's times where it's understandable, but it's ridiculous, like people are just struggling their people. Not the homeless. I I low key hate that word,

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Jody Mortimer: you know. It looks like this negative connotation

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Jody Mortimer: above someone's position, and it's like,

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Jody Mortimer: and it has nothing to do with them, you know, like not, everybody tries to be who is. Now, when you're doing a bunch of drugs and stuff, and you're doing so that there are a few bad apples that ruin it. For the rest of us. However, people are usually just trying to

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Jody Mortimer: make it day to day, and probably even progress. I mean It's just hard to do like

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Jody Mortimer: It's not easy, with no help. And you know programs that are out there that do help, you know, very thankful for

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Jody Mortimer: it. Wasn't easy, you know, having a in this day and age. Everybody needs a phone to do everything which is ridiculous, but you know it is what it is. Um, people just you know. That's also hard keeping a phone charge when you're out there, and you don't have a car, and I mean none of the restrooms

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Jody Mortimer: like restaurants. You have to buy a twenty dollar sandwich. You don't want just to go pee sometimes. Uh, and that's more like inner city at the beach is a little easier because there are bathrooms and showers. Those are like, you know. There's a couple of bad apples there ruin it for people. But

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Jody Mortimer: of that being said, you know, it's like little things like that. Or just

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Jody Mortimer: yeah, I I would like to say something. Um, you know. I understand where you're coming from, about

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vicki halliday: how house residents may refer to people who are living on the street, but I think that you also have to consider it from our point of view, and I live right by bridge housing. I'm at the beach.

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vicki halliday: I've had a knife held in my stomach. I have had various attempted home invasions. I have had various fence jumpers who have stolen from me, and it has been a battle for four years now, so you have sort of excuse us

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vicki halliday: a little bit, because we've had some hard knocks, too. I I wish you had showers. I wish there were storage lockers, and I wish that there were some things to make.

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vicki halliday: You know you're

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vicki halliday: attempt to be responsible easier for you. But I think you have to look at us and know that there's a reason we cross the street. If there's a guy

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Jody Mortimer: on, meth detecting crazy. Why would I as a seventy-three year old female want to walk up to that guy and say, Hey, Bud, can I do something for you? I I get it like I said. I understand it to the degree. However, like I said, it's the combination that's put it's a negative perspective, and it's like, I understand why you're like that. I I do to a degree. However, it's like the constant treating them some type of way

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Jody Mortimer: always, and judging a book by It's cover based on prior experiences, is what like, you know not. Every person is like that, and that's It's hard, and I understand how the homeowners

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vicki halliday: are struggling with that, because you know it's that call is Miss out here is an abundance. I feel It's a lot of people, Jack, I mean. I've tried my best to help a lot of people. So you know I'm. You know my friend has had.

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Jody Mortimer: I understand, a lot of it has to do with addiction as well. Um, that's it like, and that's why I, Jodi, I think, referred me just because you know the he did the addiction. You were going to do a lot of crazy stuff like pull people at Nice Point and rob people's houses

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Jody Mortimer: and a lot of it isn't really, even for the benefit of your own good. A lot of it is just because you're hoped on a drug to escape. The reality is that life sucks when you're in that position

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frank murphy: again.

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frank murphy: What? Go ahead, Jack.

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Jody Mortimer: Oh, just saying the thing is like, you know,

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Jody Mortimer: like I said earlier in somebody while they're down

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Jody Mortimer: doesn't help, you know. I mean it doesn't and words are very. I I know it sounds corny and very cliche, but words are powerful, you know. Um. The way people talk to us is what sets us off in that mindset half time, you know, like

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Jody Mortimer: once I walked up to some guy one time I was going to ask him the time, so I've made sure I didn't miss this job interview, and you know what he said to me. He's all I don't have nothing for you, and walked off, and like a storm as if I was, you know, like nothing. It's me nice and resentful as an individual. Now, that being said, i'm sure it happens to multiple people, and they get resentful, especially when they see people with homes who make life look easy. Yeah, you know. And then

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Jody Mortimer: that gets harder.

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Jody Mortimer: It's way hard for us to look at every day, and in la! It's so abundant. You see people pulling up, and like diamond, Lamborghini and stuff, and you're sitting there walking through the heat with dirty clothes. All this crap just so you can,

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frank murphy: you know. Let's um Let's let uh uh uh Stan has another question, and he's got his hand up.

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Jody Mortimer: Zack, do you have your good car with you?

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Jody Mortimer: Uh! I don't have mine with me. I broke a string today.

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Ansar Muhammad: No, I don't want you to play. Maybe at the end of the meeting you can play. Play a tune with some of you play a sound in good spirit, but

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Jody Mortimer: I think

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frank murphy: No go ahead. I think what I wanted to say is uh

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Ansar Muhammad: the gang stuff.

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Ansar Muhammad: Yeah, I still there. It's just very mess then, now, compared to what it used to be. Everybody was up in ours with the gang stuff,

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Ansar Muhammad: and uh ultimately created a gang injunction that didn't work.

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Ansar Muhammad: Now we deal with the homeless stuff. So

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Ansar Muhammad: the question I have for you is, what can you do now that you don't get sober, because that was the key

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Ansar Muhammad: to to your presentation is sobriety

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Ansar Muhammad: without the sobriety. None of this will be working for you if you wouldn't so for A. So so what what advice could you give?

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Ansar Muhammad: The population is still out there

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Ansar Muhammad: If you was able to walk back into that environment, what? What advice would you go? Those individuals is still there,

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Jody Mortimer: you know. Honestly, it's hard to give advice when there has to be a level of willingness for them to want to actually accept it, you know you can tell someone all day or you like. Here's the old analogy. You could walk the horse to water all you want. You can't make them drink until they're willing, you know. And that being said that's kind of the

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Jody Mortimer: it it's hard for me to just give advice, you know it depends on what their questions are. Let me know. It's very. It's a little deeper than that. I feel like the best advice I can do is, you know,

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Jody Mortimer: stay strong. Um do your best if you can. I mean it's Corny, but it it's the truth. You know that you gotta like, really, you know, put your best foot forward every day, and not let you know little things

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Jody Mortimer: ruin your day, I mean, and that's, you know It's hard to do that all the time, because, you know, people catch resentments and resentments is a big uh big fuel to our fire.

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Jody Mortimer: yeah, that being said, You know, just trying to carry a new results. That's what I would say.

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frank murphy: Yeah,

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frank murphy: um.

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frank murphy: We've used up the time on on, uh on. And i'm really appreciative of you uh making it here,

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frank murphy: and I appreciate your thoughts. Um!

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frank murphy: And i'll let it go with that. Uh we have a we have after after this, and thanks very much. That and um

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frank murphy: and uh um! We have some hands up for public comment now is on the homeless roundtable is just on the homeless, roundtable

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frank murphy: presentation. So uh, but that is not something that uh you that need to remain, for so we can take that separate

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vicki halliday: uh alright, these comments, Frank, are just regarding the roundtable.

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WCS: Hi, Can I? Um video to? Or is it just Wcs:

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WCS: I I've been listening to a lot of concerns about the um

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WCS: opportunity around here, and I feel like It's

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WCS: I. I come with questions because i'm a forty year old male

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WCS: has or did have a good job.

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WCS: And then social services took that job away

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WCS: and asked me to prove

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WCS: why I needed or to keep that job.

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WCS: And so i'm i'm. Sitting in this apartment that costs fourteen fifty

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WCS: to uh fund that, and social services is

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WCS: I've I've submitted my seven year old. Do you guys my ten year old, Do you wise?

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WCS: What happens if I become homeless in Venice? Also

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WCS: right outside my North Venice address is, are these and I'm. Concerned

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WCS: where I want to talk

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WCS: to my neighbors,

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WCS: the Rvs, you know.

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WCS: But

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WCS: my tone of voice

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WCS: is taken

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WCS: a back almost like so. How do I approach

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WCS: trying to help

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WCS: people in our bees, and also not trying to be homeless myself?

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vicki halliday: Thank you for your comment.

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vicki halliday: Thank you. Um next up Colonial.

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Kalani W: No, huh? Um, I don't know if Zach is still listening. But I was wondering if he was ever in the Foster care system since he couldn't really pin down

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Kalani W: where he was from. He mentioned that he was born in North Carolina to a military father in a dance, or mother moved around a bit, mentioned something about not being a a burden to California.

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Jody Mortimer: I heard something about Alaska,

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Kalani W: but he's here now, and and pursuing a music career.

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Kalani W: Um! I was wondering if

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Kalani W: he moved around a bit because he was in the foster care system. Did his parents give him up. Um! There was a bit of confusion about what his roots were, and why they were pulled up, and how he ended up in California,

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Kalani W: and I was wondering if he would be open to living in a situation with rules where and and more structure

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Kalani W: and um! It sounds like he's in a situation where there are a lot of people uh in the same room,

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Kalani W: Um!

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Kalani W: And

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Kalani W: if you have Ak: Did he ever have a case manager while he was out on the street because a case manager would have helped him get Ssi uh cal fresh um medicaid medicaid cal uh all of those services that could have helped him,

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Kalani W: and

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Kalani W: you know, and someone did mentioned the reason. People are overwhelmed when

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Kalani W: people are overwhelmed because of the homeless,

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Kalani W: How the homeless have have taken over our streets. Um, you know, just two weeks ago we had a murder of an eighty year old man at a Taco bell by a by a homeless person who had mental health issues, and that's reason enough for many of us to be a little bit more cautious. Thank you.

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vicki halliday: Thank you. Um. Next up is C. J. Cole, Cj: Go ahead, please.

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CJ Cole: Okay, I think I maybe on the other side of the fence here. But I will have to say, I do not understand

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CJ Cole: why we, as a community in Venice, has to provide all of these things for people who never have lived here, they weren't born here they weren't brought up here. They just come here, because wherever they used to live doesn't want them anymore. It doesn't mean that we want to give them all of this stuff. Either. We just point blank, can't afford it, and we cannot afford more and more people continually coming into best, because they think they can get everything

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CJ Cole: for free, and they don't have to work, and I will have to say I commend you, Zack, for getting um for um, you know, getting on a solar. That is not It's really more of the fact that in Hollywood. And why don't you move to Hollywood?

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frank murphy: Thanks. Cj:

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Jody Mortimer: I don't know It's just comment.

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Jody Mortimer: Is he allowed to comment, or Um, No. Uh, we were just taking comments straight from the public. Yeah,

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frank murphy: um

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frank murphy: vicki uh!

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frank murphy: Is that uh Lisa reddening on up next?

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frank murphy: Oh, you're on uh mute.

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Lisa Redmond: I hadn't been called on. But think, go ahead, Lisa. I had unmuted you. Sorry about that. Um! I just wanted to commend zach uh for being here speaking his truth um being open and vulnerable. Um

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Lisa Redmond: staying calm when other people were trying to pick them apart. Um,

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Lisa Redmond: you know I appreciate. You know you

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Lisa Redmond: saying the things you did, and i'm really sorry that you know, even within this meeting, uh, you were referred to as quote Unquote the homeless Um,

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Lisa Redmond: And I know this is public comment. You don't really respond. But if you know somebody wants to get in touch with me, I don't know if you are lacking, an Id But you mentioned your friend just had recently had everything stolen I've got. Id vouchers

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Lisa Redmond: um, so I can hook you guys up if someone wants to get in touch with me. Um for that. So thank you.

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vicki halliday: Thank you.

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vicki halliday: Uh Erica. Why don't you go ahead, please.

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Erica Venice Beach: Hi, there! Um zach! I wanted to also congratulate you on your hard work to

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Erica Venice Beach: to get your life together. I know it's really hard. I moved out when I was sixteen years old, and I lived in a closet for a a house,

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Erica Venice Beach: so I know it can be really challenging. But um! What I wanted to let you know about is that not all businesses are against helping people that are homeless. I, personally, I have a catering company. I've had it for thirty, six years now, and I have hired multiple people that have been houseless. My problem has been.

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Erica Venice Beach: They have issues, and it's not things like I was flexible like, Oh, this is your shower day. Okay, No problem. You can come in late or whatever,

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Erica Venice Beach: but they end up, I think, because of mental health reasons a lot of times not being. They just they quit, or they just don't show up, or they start using. And obviously I can't have them here if they're using

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Erica Venice Beach: um, and It's It's frustrating for me because I want to help in that way. I want to give people opportunity. There's been many times, and I have fellow

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Erica Venice Beach: business owner friends in the area as well, that are looking for staff and are desperate for workers. But what happens is it's it's hard to get people that are um,

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Erica Venice Beach: you know, consistent, or that one that really do want to work. I mean It's

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Erica Venice Beach: It's one thing to say, yeah, I want a job. But then when it's, you know it's hard, and it's eight hours, and it's, you know, every day or whatever, and then they just don't want to do it. I don't know, so I don't know if you have any suggestions on that or but that's been my experience. Thank you, Erica

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vicki halliday: Kevin daily on. Step right up.

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Kevin De Leon: Yes, tonight, and all of the great one is that uh

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Jody Mortimer: he's doing, Frank.

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Kevin De Leon: He's got his. He's got his minute. Let him go ahead, but he's not Kevin daily on. It's a great honor to honor the great cover daily on tonight. Thank you. He's doing everything for homelessness that he could do. Is he's finding the path to Jesus Christ

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Kevin De Leon: on his date. Yes, so God Peppet went down before the day's meeting on a

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Kevin De Leon: where did you go? Well, I went to Lincoln and Washington.

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Kevin De Leon: You should see the shithole that's occurring there in front of the Seven eleven shopping center. Yes, they're sitting there today, urinating,

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Kevin De Leon: sitting there trying to light up crack drugs. Meanwhile the rest of us got up tonight this morning at five, thirty, six o'clock in the morning to go to our little jobs, and drive up and down our little freeways and go back to our little houses.

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Kevin De Leon: Don't you want to do like Kevin day, Leon, and make two hundred and eighty thousand a year to not work, hey? Thanks, Kevin.

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Kevin De Leon: I want to be a City Council member.

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vicki halliday: Okay, that's the end of public comments. Right. Um,

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frank murphy: Zach. Thank you very much.

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frank murphy: Um, Jody. Thank you very much for introducing him.

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frank murphy: And uh, we'll go back to a public comment on non-agenda items,

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vicki halliday: and I would say that uh, rather than run a timer, I would ask everybody to keep it brief, and we'll sort of after about a minute start to ask you to um to wrap it up, and we would appreciate that. Thank you.

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vicki halliday: Um. First up, Daniel Legate. Go ahead, please.

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Daniel Liggett: Hi. I spoke last week uh in regards to the Flower Avenue situation. Uh again this morning we were. We awoken with the fire the abandoned house at six fifty-seven flower uh, I myself have witnessed on multiple occasions the encampment at

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Daniel Liggett: Uh. Lincoln and Flower, where the

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Daniel Liggett: I hate to use the word homeless, but they're not living in homes, go in and out of this abandoned home for whatever reason they're going in and out of there for, uh, uh, it was a chop shop. It was, uh,

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Daniel Liggett: you know, a place for them to to do their drugs or whatever. But the Flower Avenue is having a big big problem,

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Daniel Liggett: and we uh

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Daniel Liggett: are receiving no help from anybody. Nope, we we we've we've reached out to everybody we can possibly reach out to, and we get nothing, and the situation has been going on in our corner, on and off for

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Daniel Liggett: five years, if not more.

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Daniel Liggett: Uh

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Daniel Liggett: and me me! How raising my hand here seems like nobody else is out there, and it's kind of lonely. I wish it. Some other people from Flower Avenue were out there uh listening, and would raise their hand and and speaks up to something. Clark Clark Brown has been very helpful and trying to coordinate a lot of things here

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Daniel Liggett: uh for us and um, I feel like i'm just running on and running on. But we're We're getting no help here, and you're not helping the people on the street, either, because these people that are living at the end of our block been offered housing, and are just refusing it, and they're blocking the sidewalk.

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Daniel Liggett: We can't walk down the street. If we want to walk down the street to the end of our block, it's dangerous. Um,

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vicki halliday: thank you.

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vicki halliday: Let's see Kevin daily on.

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Kevin De Leon: Yes, ladies and gentlemen.

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Kevin De Leon: Well, thank you, everybody. You know, my friend go perfect. Let him. We use his phone.

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Kevin De Leon: Uh: I found a way to work and get paid for not working at all,

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Kevin De Leon: and I want to bring this plan to all of the people on the street just like me, where I can pay you not to work. That's the reason I won't resign. Now I know what the media says, but i'm doing this to not resign, to fight for you the homeless,

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Kevin De Leon: so that we can find a way to pay you to stay on the streets and not work like me.

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Kevin De Leon: Well, how much do you make? Oh, I make about two hundred and eighty-five thousand a year, and I get a free car and a free gas card,

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Kevin De Leon: You know I I get up every morning, and I play the dire straight song money for nothing, and and my chicks for free, because that's my lifestyle.

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Kevin De Leon: So i'm going to stay where I am, and you're not going to force me to resign. But i'm gonna be out there trying to get everybody to be paid for not working like me. I'm: Thank you, Kevin. Thank you.

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Kevin De Leon: Thank you, Kevin. Thank you. God bless

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vicki halliday: on next up Isaac Cabrera.

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vicki halliday: Go ahead, Isaac.

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Isaac Cabrera: Alright. Great. Thank you. Um, Yeah, I think I just wanted to. So I, on a property on on flower live there. Um was kind of old neighbors with with Danny was just on um, But you know, one of the things I want to just want to say is really nice Hearing Zac talk, but just about how

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Isaac Cabrera: and disappoint I am with our leadership to not have some balance of regulation, because it is putting everybody in really

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Isaac Cabrera: tentious spot where you know, when we were living there talked with threats. You know all the stuff that Vicki you had brought up. We've had fires, we see open fires. We see the safety issues. How scholar fire this week after quick getting caught on fire on Friday. So you see the challenges that we're going through, and you also see the challenges there,

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Isaac Cabrera: and when people turn down services, get to continue to do there and have open drug use and have some other problems. It really puts everybody in a tough position where there's like an absence of regulation and an absence of balancing responsibilities. And I feel like the real folks that are losing is that how can service providers sort through that when our our representatives Aren't, doing that, I know that living on flower, we were in a very tricky situation.

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Isaac Cabrera: The story the Jack sharing is heartbreaking, and you know that folks are going through this. So to let the noise of this through an absence of regulation, I think, is mind boggling, and really a shame on our City Council Member for for not putting up some some boundaries here to help sort through this this very complicated issue.

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vicki halliday: Thank you, Isaac. I appreciate it.

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vicki halliday: Um! Come on in, Go ahead, please.

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Kalani W: Hello! Hi! Uh Kevin de Leon mentioned that

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Kalani W: I something about identity, politics, and that is something I what wish to highlight, he said, that because the city is over forty Hispanic, we should have over forty hispanic representation on our city council, and that's the reason they want to do. They wanted to draw the district lines the way they wanted it. We have to get away from identity politics. We have to get away, for you have to see it to believe it. I'm. From a generation where our

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Kalani W: F. K. Said, Some people see things as they are, and they ask why I dream things that never were, and ask, Why not? We need to start voting for the people who are the most qualified, who are gonna get things done instead of voting for people who look like us who go along to get along. And that's why i'm voting for the candidate that has promised to build

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Kalani W: thirty thousand beds in a year to get these homeless off our streets, and also is is supporting the expansion of the Cares act. I was surprised at another Neighborhood Council, Homeless meeting that every single person on that Neighborhood Council um did was unaware of the Cares act. Please Google It it is. It was recently passed by Gut, our dear Governor Newsom It it! It

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Kalani W: takes the homeless crime out of our legal system and moves it into a special court called the Cares Court. Please make it up. Thank you.

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vicki halliday: Uh Drew. Go ahead.

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Jody Mortimer: No, no,

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hi

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Dru Leggiero: um! I'm a resident of Flower Avenue. I've lived here for twelve years. I'm. A forty year old woman. I live alone. I have a courtyard. We are a community within this courtyard

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Dru Leggiero: that to be, said the trauma and unbearableness of this situation. It's just it's too far. We need help. Please please help us. Officer Costa Bonnan. No help. My own landlord used to try in the beginning, but he doesn't have any outlets that we haven't exhausted, either.

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Dru Leggiero: I've been robbed hit.

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Dru Leggiero: I've been chased in my car and had my car chased. My car has been vandalized. I witnessed a young man die three weeks ago right in front of my house on the sidewalk

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Dru Leggiero: watching an Emt trying to bring this kid back to life, and that alone was just horrifying.

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Dru Leggiero: On top of that. Several days later no one had cleaned up the aftermath of this voice. It's a young man's passing, and my neighbor and I cleaned it up because we were tired of walking through it, and having that be there,

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Dru Leggiero: and we lit candles and lit some sage for his passing. And it is a terrible, terrible travesty.

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Dru Leggiero: But

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Dru Leggiero: I've been living in a state of hyper vigilance and fear for too long, and I can't afford to move. I've done the research, and I just I need fifteen grand to move, and that's just to get out kind of thing walking to whole foods. I've been hit. I've been robbed. The Rvs that are lined up multiple love. Those are these most. A lot of those are. These have out of state plates. Um!

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Dru Leggiero: There's nowhere to walk within this quadrant of Venice, except for like in one one street in one direction without being accosted by someone. Some encampment something, and it's made living here really awful, and being part of

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Dru Leggiero: I mean I'm, not Uber-rich and i'm not uber poor, and those of us that ride that center line we're just kind of F. And and being left

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frank murphy: Wendy

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Lindsay: um i'm also a flower app resident, and I just Drew said every word I wanted to say. Um, I think, enabling the encampments.

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Lindsay: Um! Is it good for anyone on flower anyone in the neighborhood, and it's also not good for the residents. Those um houses residents, either. Um! I also had to watch that poor body

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Lindsay: there all day, and it broke my heart, and I also hate living in fear, and being scared to leave my house early in the morning or late at night.

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frank murphy: Thanks, Lindsey.

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vicki halliday: Uh, next, Daniel, Legate. Go ahead!

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Daniel Liggett: Hi! I'm gonna let my wife speak because she didn't get a chance before, and I already spoke.

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Daniel Liggett: Hi, everybody! Um! I listen to

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Daniel Liggett: um. Zach's story was quite touched, and um!

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Daniel Liggett: I felt a lot of empathy towards him, and then I started thinking about myself and what I did, and and um, you know I was cooking dinner, so I didn't get every single innuendo of his story.

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Daniel Liggett: But I came out here in one thousand nine hundred and eighty-six

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Daniel Liggett: and um!

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I had a job in place because I didn't come without a job.

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Daniel Liggett: But I did look into housing and what it costs to the year, the Tom Sky. There was no Internet there was no, you know, checking anything on the phones. And

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Daniel Liggett: um I had to make do

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Daniel Liggett: for myself, and maybe I was more

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um

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Daniel Liggett: set up to do that Then he was. But I think that it's really important for everybody to take personal responsibility.

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Daniel Liggett: And um!

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Daniel Liggett: There's been points in my life where um I would do anything just to survive. I mean not survive on the street, but do anything to just make a living. If it was, you know I lost my job. I'll flip burgers. I did work at Mcdonald's. That was my first job.

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Daniel Liggett: So um! But I've worked my butt off to do everything I could to get where I am today, and to leave my house

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Daniel Liggett: yesterday morning at five thirty this morning. I'm sorry not yesterday morning at five thirty to go to work. My first client was at six o'clock. I'm not a corporate person. I'm not a Ceo,

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Daniel Liggett: and to see fire engines. And the same thing happening that happened four days ago, just down the street on my street

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Daniel Liggett: made me at my stomach, turn seriously, made me sick. By the time I got to where I was going I had to go and use her bathroom,

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Daniel Liggett: and it's just not okay. Um, I don't know what we do about it. I'm not one of the people in charge, but it makes me sad. It makes me angry, and um i'm supporting Tracy Park

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Daniel Liggett: because she makes me feel a little bit better about all this. She has empathy, and I think she has somewhat of a plan. It's. This is a really really hard situation. I get that, and I feel for everyone involved, for our community and for the community of the unhoused.

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Daniel Liggett: Thank you.

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vicki halliday: Uh

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Lisa Redmond: um, yeah. I feel really bad for the people on Flower, and I wish that there was a better solution. Um, but I also,

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Lisa Redmond: you know I have to ask where, if we take the people away from Flower? Where do they go?

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Lisa Redmond: Do they go? One Street over to Vernon or to Indiana. I it just

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Lisa Redmond: It's just wrong that we don't have the housing availability. It's just wrong that we don't have plans that the city um uses on house people as pawns in the political game. Um. During this meeting

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Lisa Redmond: I have received multiple texts from people placed by Saint Joseph's in the roadway, and that's on Co. On Inglewood in Washington and Culver City. Many people are there from Venice, and they are starving. They haven't been fed for a couple of days.

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Lisa Redmond: And this is also part of the problem, too, is

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Lisa Redmond: why services are so difficult, and colony mentioned to about Zack. He should have had a case worker that should have gotten him uh Cal, fresh and Dpss and everything. I don't think people realize how difficult it is on the street, and then you finally, maybe get some. Excuse me, Don't. Cut me off. You let the people from Flower talk forever.

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Lisa Redmond: How difficult it is to finally get some services, and then you're denied those services that you say, Okay, I will move into this place. But then you're not fed. And now people are away from where they're used to getting food or our resources where they knew how to get food. And

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Lisa Redmond: it's Just the whole system is broken, and It's really frustrating that I try to come here in a positive mood tonight, and i'm getting these tax And meanwhile, now i'm sending pizzas and making my plans to call everyone I know and say just as tomorrow. Everyone I know in the Council Office, everyone else

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Lisa Redmond: that you know. We're trying to take care of some, but we can't even take care of the ones that are trying to get taken care of. And this is unfortunate that here's another meeting where you have basically no motions. Yes, I appreciate the roundtables, but it's been a couple of meetings. Now, what are we doing to, You know? Make our leaders aware of these kind of issues.

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Lisa Redmond: Um, I guess I need to start writing motions again. Um, that's it. Thank you.

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vicki halliday: I see into public speakers for me.

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vicki halliday: All right. People are re-raising their hands. So everybody in public comment. Um,

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vicki halliday: you know, we generally don't repeat

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frank murphy: Yeah, we don't repeat,

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frank murphy: and I think everybody had spoken, and I was glad that one person could get his wife and um

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frank murphy: um. So now we go to committee comments on items now on the agenda, so it can sit. We can continue this discussion. Um,

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frank murphy: Jodie, you you were uh you were anxious to get in there. And uh, Jody, go ahead.

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Jody Mortimer: Thank you, Frank. I just want to again take a Zack. That was the he had the lead to go to his uh twelve step.

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Jody Mortimer: I just want to say we did put uh invite uh the two Meryl candidates to the uh to speak at our homeless committee, and they uh they couldn't make it. So we we did invite them both,

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Jody Mortimer: and um

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Jody Mortimer: we put out um

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Jody Mortimer: and I it is very difficult, especially when you see all the different

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Jody Mortimer: um. I was very fortunate. I did have the Va. And a personal care

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Jody Mortimer: case manager that walked this through. We have two huge you many universities here. They have over thirty thousand social worker students that graduate each year. I mean they there should be enough for one there. There shouldn't be anywhere where these case managers shouldn't be walking these guys through like I was walked through,

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Jody Mortimer: and i'm hand holding these guys. We do have that eighty, twenty problem. And I think Flower is one of the twenty percent, unfortunately.

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Jody Mortimer: And um, it's just people like Zach. It's It's gonna be tough for him. It's hard Once you're in that vehicle and it's safe to.

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Jody Mortimer: We transition to, not only out of Venice, because they're going to give you a room key to a hotel that's maybe out in Bell flower. If you're lucky, you maybe even further out from that. Um!

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Jody Mortimer: And there's unfortunately there are quite a few rules of regulations. I know we have to deal with regulations and rules; but again, being it homeless on the streets, for it was very difficult

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Jody Mortimer: to adjust. So we like, I said I might think the answer personally, and I and I and I do think that um more that's the of the um is a good thing.

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Jody Mortimer: But social workers that we have in these cities. They need to. They need to step up and house these guys spill out paperwork. And and again we got some things with the you know I I love the one comment from the the end, the from the public comment. I believe that she's a caterer, and I would like to know this? Will she hire people for day laborers?

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Jody Mortimer: Uh that? Can, you know, maybe work in her kitchen, or work on loading? Not necessarily in front of the in front of her guests, or something like that, You know there's things that day. Laborers will help a lot of people earn some kind of like uh

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Jody Mortimer: uh self-esteem, but they may not have ids now. I know. There's a there's so right right at home depot You get date labors, and they don't have Ids. Why can't we do that? The same here in Venice? Have a little clock like that

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Jody Mortimer: So people that want to work?

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Jody Mortimer: Yeah, that that's all right,

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Jody Mortimer: and I do feel for people on flower. That is a desperate situation over there.

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C Bailey: Hi, um! I walked flower last Saturday. I walked up the seven hundred block for a couple of

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C Bailey: houses.

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C Bailey: It was.

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C Bailey: I don't know how to describe it. I I moved to the Oakwood area in the early nineties, and I never felt like that before.

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C Bailey: I've I've lived in this neighborhood since the nineties through all the gang. Whatever never felt like this

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C Bailey: never felt like I was in this kind of danger, that kind of danger

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C Bailey: than when I was on flower last Saturday.

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C Bailey: Um,

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C Bailey: I I I don't even know what to say about about what to what to say to the people that live there, because it's completely and totally unacceptable. As we know, we've got a Council office doesn't really care. At this point.

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C Bailey: Um! I walked down. I actually texted Tracy Park and said, Um, come, come, walk around here with me. I know she's been down there before

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C Bailey: um, but she did. She came and walked with me um

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C Bailey: around the neighborhood, and uh we got We heard a lot of those type of comments that were

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C Bailey: dear towards. You know I've lived here since the nineties. I didn't feel like this in the nineties. It's a lot more dangerous. It's a lot more. It's It's pathetic, and and I don't even know what the solution is other than obviously new leadership. It's not just our new Council leadership. It's new leadership with the entire city.

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C Bailey: It's It's new leadership. And all these so called organization would again. What do you think? What are they doing with all the money that we,

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C Bailey: as taxpayers, said, we will tax ourselves and give you money to help us, and it's gotten worse. There's a billion dollars that can't be accounted for. And who's spending it where it's going? There's no accountability, and I just find it very frustrating. I feel bad for you guys on on flower.

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C Bailey: Daniel Isaac Drew

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C Bailey: Lindsey. Um! I didn't get Daniel's wife's name, but I

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C Bailey: we do. We do. You know we we we feel for you

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C Bailey: and um.

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C Bailey: I'll try to reach out to you as much as I can, and uh, i'll work with the hopefully the new Council person hopefully new regime, because,

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C Bailey: anyway. Um, I don't want to get too political in terms of the

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C Bailey: the election, but we just got it. We've got to make some changes, guys, and we can do all the motions and do everything we can on this committee, but we know It's not going anywhere. If we don't have a council,

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C Bailey: our our current council person couldn't care less what we say, what we do, what we any of it. It means nothing.

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C Bailey: Okay?

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frank murphy: Hmm.

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frank murphy: Um, Vicki:

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vicki halliday: Um,

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vicki halliday: Yeah. I mean the flower situation.

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vicki halliday: It's so tragic because of the people who are there. I know several of them.

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vicki halliday: Um. Some were originally on third they bounced to Penmar Penmar was shut down. They bounced. Um! They've been a lot of places, and several of them have been in multiple kinds of housing.

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vicki halliday: I know there's one person there who's bounced out of four housing situations.

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vicki halliday: So I think what flower represents is are the service resistant people?

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vicki halliday: Um who are lost to the system,

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vicki halliday: and nobody's figured out

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vicki halliday: who is going to address that and what can be done?

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vicki halliday: Um! I so agree with a lot that Colette said, Um,

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vicki halliday: we there's nobody to call in the Council Members office now. There's no one, and lapd and sanitation both depended on that rep

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vicki halliday: um Kristen Marler was the the last one that really did anything, and there's been no one,

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vicki halliday: and I I feel so badly

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vicki halliday: for the residents of flower because they are caught in this vortex of inefficiency

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vicki halliday: and sort of failure of the city,

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vicki halliday: and my heart goes out to you. And um,

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vicki halliday: let's hope that this election brings us some change.

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vicki halliday: Thanks.

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frank murphy: Okay.

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PatRaphael: I just wanted to

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PatRaphael: also repeat what Vicki's pointed out.

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PatRaphael: I'm glad it was Vicki who said it, and not the usual uh narrative for me. That a lot of these folks are being moved from other places.

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PatRaphael: Uh one maximum encampment goes away, and then another one rises up, and then another one goes away, another one rise up. So the people who have a reprieve at the library who are saying, Who now we have peace. Of course Don't forget. Flower is also right there by St. Joseph's.

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PatRaphael: So there is a little bit more permanent seat to the to the to the

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PatRaphael: flower situation, but I feel like It's taking a level recently, because even my friend Eric, who's sitting right next to me, taking the meeting in he's telling me he rides my flower, and he's like Wow! It is pretty gritty over there, but because he knows most of the people there,

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PatRaphael: or some of the people here uh it, it it's it's like It's It's a different experience than a homeowner who just sees this springing up in their block. So once again I'm saying, Yes, we gotta deal with the ripples, because the ripples are immediate, immediate situations

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PatRaphael: that have to be dealt with. But let's not ignore. The hands. Throw on the rocks right, and I think the hands to on the rock for the most part is the inefficiency and the incapacity of the service providers right and the moving around right. Uh, Jody Mortimer talked about the eighty, twenty right, twenty percent of the people

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PatRaphael: who are causing eighty percent of the problem, right? So most homeless folks that are just at their with, and look for solutions, and sometimes being close to a service provider like St. Joseph may feel like You're getting more progress,

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PatRaphael: because, you know, you might be in the front of the line for a shower rather than uh having to give your whole day for it.

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PatRaphael: Yeah,

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frank murphy: Um, It seemed to me that the

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frank murphy: points that the people were bringing up

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frank murphy: the flower situation is that it's gotten violent, and it's gotten out of hand.

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frank murphy: So I'm sitting here going Well, I hear you, but

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frank murphy: you can't have the others. You can't have the other side of this.

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frank murphy: You need empathy here. But then, then, um, you know. Go ahead and assault me until we figure out the till we figure this situation out.

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PatRaphael: Yeah, it was violent and out of hand at the library. Remember, it was a bunch of people who had no consequences happening to them doesn't matter what they did.

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PatRaphael: It happened to me, nobody close to the community that uh, that had any real say so Right? Of course I always appreciate the effort that stand tries to kind of get up and going right. But that's a skeletal function at

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PatRaphael: in an informal ground level. That's not

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PatRaphael: gonna have the reach of what the residents are looking for, right? But Then there's people getting paid to deliver the services for what those residents are looking for. So so it it just seems.

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PatRaphael: Ah, that's what we have to focus on that. The inefficiencies of the service providers Ah is contributing to the moving people everywhere, and then over time it just gets worse. And now here it is a flower getting worse,

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frank murphy: absolutely.

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frank murphy: Um a stan you had. You had your hand up.

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Ansar Muhammad: Yeah, I I was just listening to those homeowners man, and I feel for them.

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Ansar Muhammad: It is really a nine one one,

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Ansar Muhammad: and I don't know because um

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Ansar Muhammad: you know what

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Ansar Muhammad: conversations need to happen. However, I will say this.

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Ansar Muhammad: Um,

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Ansar Muhammad: We are responsible. My agency is responsible

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Ansar Muhammad: for working with

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Ansar Muhammad: the gang members and the former gang members in Venice.

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Ansar Muhammad: I hire former gang members to work with gang members.

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Ansar Muhammad: As a result of this strategy we have not seen a murder

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Ansar Muhammad: between the African-american Gang and the Latino gang that that resides in Venice, and will always represent Venice.

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Ansar Muhammad: And I was just thinking about the guys like. What if we

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Ansar Muhammad: had a conversation

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Ansar Muhammad: with those individuals to maybe police or help police this situation and help

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Ansar Muhammad: really

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Ansar Muhammad: deal with this situation. You know what I mean, not in a violent way, but just in a more, you know, being able to communicate with these folks,

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Ansar Muhammad: let him know this is a great nuisance on our community.

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Ansar Muhammad: Um! And how can we Do you know our work from an intervention standpoint.

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Ansar Muhammad: I'm not sure if there is a gang element at that encampment, but I will say this

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Ansar Muhammad: uh ninety nine point nine of them campuses in Venice definitely have a gang element. I haven't been over there,

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Ansar Muhammad: but i'm gonna make my way over there, Frank, to take a look at this. Uh, and if I can see a way

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Ansar Muhammad: that we can help those homeowners over there,

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Ansar Muhammad: and more importantly, help those as living on concrete

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Ansar Muhammad: to clean up the act, because at the end of the day there's phases to this stuff. We talk about housing, housing, housing, but maybe we can just have a clean up, you know. Maybe we can ask the the folks that's on the concrete that this land on the concrete.

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Ansar Muhammad: Are you guys? Would you guys be interested in cleaning up the area,

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Ansar Muhammad: and I know some of the areas that we worked in. That's what we start a clean up, not not the sanitation, not the city, but the people who's actually there. We have empowered these folks in other areas

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Ansar Muhammad: to at least clean up. And in the process of doing this we was able to build rapport relationships, find out who was on what is what. So i'm just saying to to to this audience tonight

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Ansar Muhammad: that the agency that I I represent. We work with the hardest at the heart,

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Ansar Muhammad: and so i'm sure we can get over there and get something done

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Ansar Muhammad: because we can work with criminals, and cut throats and cast carrying guns, and having these people to put their guns down to come to a peaceful resolution.

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Ansar Muhammad: I'm sure we can do something over there. I just don't, you know. I don't want to start promoting myself on this call here, but I will say this uh Venice. Two thousand

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Ansar Muhammad: have done some phenomenal work, and save many lives in Venice.

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Ansar Muhammad: Then, right now in two thousand and twenty-three. We still have a non-aggression agreement between the African American gang and the Latino gang, and I would like to be able to say this to you all.

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Ansar Muhammad: Given the opportunity. I can easily make a phone call and say, Look! We would like to go over here and deal with this flower situation.

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Ansar Muhammad: The former gang members is from Venice that love. It is just like you all love that is,

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Ansar Muhammad: and see what we can get done from that anger or from that strategy. I don't know if we can get anything done, but it might be worth a shot, because, like everybody is saying tonight, nobody is doing anything about it.

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Ansar Muhammad: But if some of the former game members that I work with show up on flower

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Ansar Muhammad: that might change the whole narrative, man.

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Ansar Muhammad: And i'm saying former, because the guys that I work with is no longer a game involved in game banking, but they represent Venice to the fullest.

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Ansar Muhammad: So, maybe, Frank, we can have that conversation with some of the stakeholders over there and see what we can do, man, because that that I mean It's sad to hear this stuff, man.

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Ansar Muhammad: It's sad to hear it. But anyway, that's my five cents on the dollar. Thank you.

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frank murphy: Uh Jodi, I know you're jumping uh Elizabeth had her hand up first, though

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frank murphy: you're on mute.

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Um

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Elizabeth Wright: mostly. I wanted to thank Zach for appearing and being so open with us, it was so kind of him to

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Elizabeth Wright: let us understand

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Elizabeth Wright: the importance of a shower.

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Elizabeth Wright: And uh, if if Jodi would uh comment on our efforts to get some of that secure storage

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Elizabeth Wright: for documents.

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Elizabeth Wright: Um, we really tried,

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Elizabeth Wright: and we'll continue to try.

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Jody Mortimer: Yeah, we did, and what it's looking like. Um,

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Jody Mortimer: Um, We may just start with uh some um manila envelopes that that will be secured with some names and some documents over at the over at St. Joseph. Um. We'd really like to see some type of a little more permanent lockers in some different areas, and

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Jody Mortimer: we'll rewrite another motion. We'll try to get it going through What i'd like to say to stand is, I think you're absolutely right. I, I, I I I originally wanted to say who who's in charge of the the Venice Patrol, and we we just They should have been us patrol out there, but I don't think that's gonna work. That may be seen a little um.

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Jody Mortimer: I know when during Covid I was on them with my Rv.

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Jody Mortimer: And it was about two o'clock or three o'clock in the morning, and it was an absolute mess, though,

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Jody Mortimer: and uh uh ex gang member a lieutenant. I don't know I mean not a a police officer, but uh um!

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Jody Mortimer: Who knows but he came through, and you know he literally told everybody that if they didn't clean everything up. He was really heavy-handed, like, you know. Get this place clean up,

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Jody Mortimer: and uh believe it or not the whole day the area they they when it cleaned that they they broke up rooms and all that, and they place that. I agree with Stan. I think we we can get out there with some community engagement,

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Jody Mortimer: and just take a walk through. Um, I'm! You gonna need the different uh ethnic groups. And um, i'm willing to do that, I think. Uh just talk until May May may help a lot.

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Jody Mortimer: That's what they did at the Va. With the uh. The veterans on the streets There they? Uh they went in and and just talked to them and and and made them a little more accountable for their area.

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frank murphy: Thanks, Jody.

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frank murphy: Hey, Colette!

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C Bailey: Um, I just. I just want it to um

734
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C Bailey: to give Stan some credit for for what he did in Venice. I lived here through the nineties and the two thousand, obviously, and if he's, if he's willing to do it, I would trust him with it. I trust him with the money before I trust what's going on with Lhasa and all these other organizations. So

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C Bailey: why isn't an organization like Stamps or stan I know stan we don't always agree, but I I have to show my face this time. I don't even know you think like this, but I let you forward. You know what we may not agree, but I will give you kind of a day of the week, and it's

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C Bailey: I bet you we agree on more than we disagree.

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C Bailey: Um. But if and i'm telling the people on flower right now.

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C Bailey: Contact Stan.

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C Bailey: He's if if if anybody can help you, it's him

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C Bailey: he's got street credit. He did it during the nineties,

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C Bailey: I mean i'll I I don't. I don't have his his contacts. All I can do is commiserate, but I can hopefully just just encourage you guys to get in contact with him

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C Bailey: and encourage our our city to help us. And that means voting for somebody who cares about us?

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Ansar Muhammad: Alright, That's it. I need to say something if I can. Briefly, Frank. So, Miss Bailey, I appreciate what you just said. Okay.

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Ansar Muhammad: We've been around for a long time, and they hear that from her.

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Ansar Muhammad: It almost ranked tears to my, because a lot of times we don't promote

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Ansar Muhammad: the work we do.

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Ansar Muhammad: I'm not the guy that's gonna be out here promoting it right. But to hear from other people it brand it almost brain tears, because I know the impact that we've had, as it relates to public safety,

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Ansar Muhammad: and how we've been able to get it done with the gang stuff, and i'm sure if we take that same lens into these encampments we might be able to get some done, you know. I can't guarantee it, but we might better. We might better get it done, man. But thank you, Miss Bailey, for that. I appreciate you for that.

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C Bailey: Yeah, you you.

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C Bailey: What's happening right now with the with the organizations is criminal. I'm sorry. I just feel like what they are doing with the money that they have is so unaccountable. It's so criminal, and i'm sure you did so much more, with so much less.

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C Bailey: And it's it. It breaks my heart to know that there are neighbors out there who who, you know, I was scared during the nineties. I'm not gonna. Why,

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C Bailey: I was scared.

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C Bailey: But you know what

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C Bailey: I I stayed, and I lived here, and I lived through it, and

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C Bailey: I I used to see stam walking around.

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C Bailey: What's the

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C Bailey: not afraid of people with him? So then I thought, Okay,

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C Bailey: it. It can get better,

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C Bailey: and it can get better. I want to encourage the people on flower. It can get better, but it's not going to get better with with dealing with the city what we have now, but it can get better with all of us

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C Bailey: pulling together

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C Bailey: and holding them accountable for the billion dollars they spent on nothing,

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frank murphy: I think. Um uh, I wanted to ask you a question. Call that real quick. Um!

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frank murphy: You said that you walked around with uh Tracy. Did you ever try to get in touch with Aaron to get a walk around, or have you in the past?

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C Bailey: Sorry. That's the way I feel about it.

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C Bailey: Some of the things he said, and what he's saying about her now. I'm I'm really annoyed that somebody can use race to try to to to get their political points across. It's ridiculous. I I will I can. I can ask him to go.

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frank murphy: Why would he not have done that in the past? Because I was a little

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frank murphy: um.

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frank murphy: I do think that we uh,

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frank murphy: uh Vicki, I think in the past we've we've mentioned that we wanted to do something about accountability for all of these Uh service providers, and we we had a motion up and got the motion passed

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frank murphy: as and uh, I think we need to follow up on that and get that, because this, you know. I I hear what Lisa said, and I understand what she said,

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frank murphy: but that's the that's a false equivalency. I mean there's so much money going in there. It's not reaching the people down on the street. It's my understanding,

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frank murphy: and i'm

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frank murphy: i'm very confused by that, and and and I'm very cynical about it too much lends itself to cynical this.

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vicki halliday: Who is responsible

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vicki halliday: for the feeding that's missing tonight? I mean, i'm

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Lisa Redmond: Lisa responsible for what? I'm sorry. Um. Well, this this uh facility is run by Saint Joseph, when you accept the housing and the services, it is a temporary, it's a prk, and with it comes food,

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Lisa Redmond: and they have not been fed, and I know that you seem a bit cynical with this. But i'm going to tell you that this is not uncommon that sometimes things will go happen for days, and people will be like coming to me saying, i'm hungry. Where is the food?

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Lisa Redmond: Um, the whole? When the whole Penmar encampment was moved. Um! That encampment to home That was a massive, massive issue, and I was told over and over again when the boardwalk thing happened. Lessons were learned. But i'll tell you the first people that got moved in.

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Lisa Redmond: We're put in hotels, and when days without food, and we this is, it goes through sometimes periods like this, where things are going, going, going, going, and then suddenly Food service stops, and I don't understand. I haven't talked to people. I'll do more investigating in the morning,

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Lisa Redmond: but the people, you know, are patient, and now they haven't had food for a couple of days, and they're starving. So we sent pieces over. But I will have to call the Council Office in the morning. I'll have to call everyone I know at St. Joseph. I'll have to rattle some cages just you know, so that they even get their basic loss of meals. But that's something that St. Joseph, if you're committed to doing this. I don't understand why food service stops

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Lisa Redmond: and like I said, it's not an uncommon thing, and this also helps where they talk about people being service Resistant People hear this on the street like, Why should I go if i'm not going to get the services that you promise me and other people say these things to other their friends on the street.

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vicki halliday: Well, the it let us know what you find out, because because of that motion, I mean,

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vicki halliday: you know, we're we're trying to be committed to accountability. And if there's anything that we can follow up on.

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Lisa Redmond: Okay, then, you know, I I really want to do it, because right is right. Yeah, I mean It's some people, some food, you know, to me will make you happy.

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frank murphy: Thank you alright, guys. Um!

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frank murphy: That's actually bringing us to the end of the meeting.

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frank murphy: Um!

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frank murphy: So I guess we'll adjourn for now

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frank murphy: we have another meeting next month,

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frank murphy: and if uh, if you have any lock, Jody with uh

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frank murphy: any of the mayorial candidates, we'll try to squeeze that in before the before the election. I doubt if that's going to happen, but

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Jody Mortimer: we'll see what we can make and see what we can see. Here. I'll i'll! I'll try again with the I'll try again with the rick and the uh, Mr. Caruso and um, and i'll give him another call if they can't get in there for the election

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frank murphy: next week, or something we'll We'll have a whole special meeting for if we can.

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frank murphy: That's where we're at.

795
01:44:59.000 --> 01:45:04.300
Jody Mortimer: Okay, folks,

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01:45:04.390 --> 01:45:06.809
Elizabeth Wright: Jody. Jodie

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01:45:07.500 --> 01:45:08.540
Elizabeth Wright: Jody.

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01:45:09.050 --> 01:45:12.409
Elizabeth Wright: Uh, would you verify the spelling of your first name.

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01:45:13.620 --> 01:45:15.839
Elizabeth Wright: Jod. Why, thank you

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01:45:19.300 --> 01:45:20.900
frank murphy: All right, folks,

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01:45:21.340 --> 01:45:26.980
Jody Mortimer: thank you so much.

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01:45:27.130 --> 01:45:30.180
Jody Mortimer: Good night, Lisa.

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01:45:30.380 --> 01:45:31.420
C Bailey: Bye.

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Elizabeth Wright: Good to see all of you.