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james murez: individual on.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Hi, Jim, Can you hear me now?

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james murez: You're now you are now.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay? Wait. Wait. Uh, Okay, i'm not really sure. Okay, Never mind, I think,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Yeah.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Hello,

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Isabelle Duvivier: hi! I didn't know if you'd seen me.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I did I? I was so I did come over and I was thought that maybe

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: attendees was one, and Panelists was one, but those one in the same. So sorry about that. So if if somebody is trying to join. Will they show up under attendees?

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Isabelle Duvivier: I think. So. Yeah. First. Okay. So i'm going to promote to you to being a panelist. Okay,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: there you are Now there's two panelists. Okay. So the So when people are trying to get in it'll show up under attendees,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: there's nowhere else for me to see that right,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: is it? Now,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: what's that? I said. There's no other place for me to detect.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: If a person is waiting to come in

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Isabelle Duvivier: uh, as far as I know, that's true. Sorry I was sending an email. There's no attendees right now.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Fine? Okay? Well, we're early, of course. Hopefully. Five minutes. Oh, My God, how's your trip?

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: It was good. But you're back already. We're back already. Jennedy. Um,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Jenny. This really stressed out about the college applications and our classes and our grades everything. So

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: i'm a little bit regretful of taking her down there. I'm afraid that I've

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: ruined her her life. Yeah, we're like, Oh, My God, Sarah, you're so dramatic! You're the worst parent ever. You ruined her life by taking her on a vacation in Mexico Place that has serve.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah, exactly, and she didn't. Unfortunately there was very little um.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: There's very little uh what do you call them swell? But she did. She did get some. I I made it like I was. I insisted on getting her to a surf break that she had known about against arguments of other people. Oh, my

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: family is so difficult. But actually the the honest truth is that everybody was really really nice, and it was a very vacation. So why is she stressed about applications Doesn't she have a lot of time. Still,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I thought so, too. And that's why I scheduled the vacation for this time. No, she is applying to everything early action,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and that's due next week.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So I think. Why should we do that? Well, probably her college counselor advised her to do it. That's for Grazer a little bit if he And so you know,

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Isabelle Duvivier: I guess that's why

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: the earlier you apply the better. Your chances.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Hmm.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Hmm. I don't know. Did did did Finn apply early? Did he apply like right on time?

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Isabelle Duvivier: He did both.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I think he applied to

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Isabelle Duvivier: I don't know there was some strategy, and honest, I can't remember. It was. I think you applied to the harder schools early, and then the

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Isabelle Duvivier: I don't know.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I think he applied to a lot also, so you can relax,

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Isabelle Duvivier: you know. Okay, I got in.

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Isabelle Duvivier: The The funny thing about this is that

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Isabelle Duvivier: Hi Andre,

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Isabelle Duvivier: they can see us, but we can't see them,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: so let me see, How do I promote him?

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: You may not have let me uh promote people I know i'm Well, Well, let's see here.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I thought I did.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I can see them, but I can't promote them.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Hello, there!

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andreas: I'm going to stay mooted for the most time.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: That's fine. Okay, Um. So

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: there we go in co-host. There we go.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I'm now. Co-host. Yep, Got it.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Excellent!

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I've been relying on you and your skills, but it's it's really very simple. Isn't it. It's no big deal, so I have my questions already.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I definitely have not been in the head space of the Venice Arbor committee

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: for a few. It's been nice to see my family, Andro, as I just got back from celebrating my grant, my mother's ninetieth birthday.

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andreas: Where Where were you.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We went into Mexico. We just drove down to and Sonata, and we rented a house right on the beach. Okay, there's no Well, so let me let her in.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Make her

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Isabelle Duvivier: so before we get started. I just want to tell you that I saw Jim Youres today the farmers market,

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Isabelle Duvivier: when he said, We've made a gigantic fan out of some neighbor down the road who wants us to emulate our work

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Isabelle Duvivier: on her. Um!

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Isabelle Duvivier: Here's Michael on her uh part of Venice Boulevard.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So now all they need to do is give us money.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Oh, where is she?

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Isabelle Duvivier: Where where the other encampment is? I keep promoting Michael? There he goes.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Well, how are you?

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Isabelle Duvivier: Everybody's already always eating their lunch or their breakfast when they

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andreas: so uh

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andreas: I remember, just remember Tracy Park is going to join us.

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andreas: She's coming at eleven. Forty. That's when she's joining.

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andreas: Are we gonna fall back to then? Just the panelists, or or

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andreas: yeah, I Let's see.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Well, the questions, anyway.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Yeah. So so, Andreas, I think you attended last time when Aaron Darling was with us.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I'm: sorry. I know they like

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Isabelle Duvivier: I have A. I have a question. I I got a flyer today in the mail, for I mean I get all these flyers for my son to vote

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andreas: um, because I can't really vote. But uh, one of the flyers said that uh Tracy Parks used to be a Republican. Is that true? Or is that just sort of a

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I have no idea. But I actually

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I think that a lot of the flyers that come in the mail are smear tactics. They don't know, you know. I think

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Michael McGuffin: I I I understand that it's true, but it's irrelevant, really, and I think that's what Sarah was in mind. Here's what we want to know. How would she represent us on the issues that matter to us? That's really what we want to know. Yeah, sure.

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Isabelle Duvivier: And what matters to this group are the tree canopy.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Yeah, that's correct. So we're going to stay focused on the we're going to run through the first. The questions that we asked when Aaron Darling

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: spoke with us. So everybody seems to be coming in as a panelists. Are you doing that, are you? I was just gonna do it automatically. I hope you don't mind Now, that's I have nothing to hide in. Our group is very respectful. You may not agree. Yeah, I do want to um,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: because there has been so many smear tactics occurring. I would like to make sure that if we don't know someone, we retain them as an attendee instead of a panelist.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um until it comes, you know. And then they would. They would be able to still raise their hand if they want to. Yeah, exactly. They could raise their hand, but then it would also make it possible for us to mute them. If they are, you know, disrespectful, or

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: in some way. Um, fearing off the subject matter at hand, and I will make a statement about that at the beginning, when everyone joins um, and who knows? You know. Maybe it will be the eight of us. There's another. Oh, Debra Bird is here! I will promote her,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I think I did. Let's see. Did I not accomplish it?

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: It just takes a while, Not the most. Uh there she is. Okay,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, Welcome, Robin And and Byrd, I hope you you hear me. Hello, I got on. Yeah. Good. Um:

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah. So I let's see. One, two, three,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um. But I know that there is coming to

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: um. So maybe we wait until

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Isabelle Duvivier: So Connie, did you see we're going to be over in your way um tomorrow. I didn't see that yet. I haven't checked on my messages. I had a crazy morning. But you guys are doing a goals.

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Connie Brooks: Did we get more money for plans for over there? Because i'm willing to chip in

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Connie Brooks: good through that same weird link that we found last time.

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Isabelle Duvivier: No, you do it through the chamber.

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Noel Johnston: We'll kind of. We'll give you the information Lance wants to chip in as well. So um we'll. We're delighted that you're helping out on this, and uh Lance is out of town, I guess right now. The uh next weekend also. But uh,

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Noel Johnston: we're we're gonna try to get we're gonna we want to talk to you about the possibility of the big water and and goals, and we want to talk to Lance. Lance has been great about watering, but he has to swim together. A whole bunch of houses to do it, and I really, I believe the gold still Hasn't given you access drives me crazy.

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Noel Johnston: I well, I I don't even know. I don't even know if they could help us at the parking lot.

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Connie Brooks: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, there used to be water there because that guy used to have his car wash service and how they got water. But we'll we'll figure it out. Okay, Thanks, Connie. I'm. I'm. I'm counting on you. I know you're Christ with this uh this. We'll figure it out in November.

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Noel Johnston: We'll have to get a jump on it before then, but we'll uh we'll we'll be

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Noel Johnston: okay. I'll text Barry, if you want me to. That would be great text, Barry,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and we'll kind of get um. We'll get started here uh we've got. Let's see. Four committee members myself is about Noel and Michael

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: um Mark Doesn't seem to be in attendance, and not it is very. But I think Barry is definitely coming.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um! So I will be keeping notes today as well, so you'll have to excuse me if I go a little more slowly. Um.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I have not been taking notes on what the candidate actually says, but we do have the recording um. So people want to go back and review the recordings. They can. So um okay. So I just wanted to for say, um, the minutes for last

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: a month's meeting were posted, and I don't know if any of you had a chance to review them. I did send them out to a few folks uh, but I didn't hear any notes. Do you have any notes. No? Well on us.

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Noel Johnston: I I think I sent you my notes. Um! The only thing I was going to say, Sarah, is that the minutes from uh last month are published as this month's minutes. So I think you want to want to change that.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Oh, they are. Oh,

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Noel Johnston: okay, yes, you mean as far as the when you look on the screen on the uh, on the Bettis neighborhood console screen. You see that the minutes for this meeting are posted.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We haven't had this meeting yet, so it's impossible. But you'll see what I mean when you look at it.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Title of the document says Minutes on it So here's very yes, I see.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: okay

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: instead of as an agenda it doesn't say

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: twenty twenty-two ten, twenty-one barb agenda.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay. So um, thank you for your notes. Now. Well, um! I will make those changes. So let's not approve. Let's not adopt the minutes now since I Haven't had the chance to make the changes. Yet. Does anybody else have any notes for the September sixteenth

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, that I would say, that's a no um.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So what i'll do is we will adopt them at the next meeting. Okay, so um next public comment. Um, Anybody who has comment that you'd like to bring up right now. You might want to

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: bring up that

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: conversation you were having with regard to watering at the uh goals gym intersection.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Do you guys want to talk about that right now and then? We can agendize it next time.

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Noel Johnston: Um,

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Noel Johnston: sure we can. We can talk about that. I mean um. We're

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Noel Johnston: we're talking to Lance because Lance has been watering there. We we want to talk to why it's about, you know. If he's gonna if he's gonna continue watering there a a lot of hit the plants that lance.

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Noel Johnston: But in there our uh the plants that are casualties to the uh snout beetle the snow. We both. So I just hope he stays interested in that and that patch of land I think he is because he's offered to uh uh help us pay for plant material there, but he's a he's a busy guy, and uh

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Noel Johnston: we'll see Connie. Is there any chance that they uh bid could uh help water there.

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Connie Brooks: I There, there wasn't last time I asked. But I am happy to raise the issue again that hasn't been something we've been able to do. Um, We don't have that capacity, as far as I know, but i'm willing to raise the issue again.

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Noel Johnston: Does the bid have a watering truck. No, no,

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Isabelle Duvivier: that's not what they told us. They did tell us they had one, but might have been a

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Connie Brooks: I know there's a Um, I I know there's a truck that

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Connie Brooks: is power washing, and maybe that's able to be converted to a water truck. So let me find out.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We were just uh finishing up public comment. Um,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I think we should leave it there. Um, Connie, It would be great if you could find out if they, if that truck could be used for watering, because that corner definitely needs the trees to be maintained. And I don't think Lance was watering the oak trees that were planted next to goals. Gym.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: No, he he wasn't, he wasn't it so so if we could get that, then we would have greater capacity to support those trees as they're growing.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, let's try again.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay. So um, Tracy. Thank you. So much for coming. I'm really happy to have you here. I think all of us are. We're just in the at the beginning of our uh agenda, and we typically will do a chair report and a report from Cfac,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and one of our sister organizations called the verdict Venice Group. Um, and I'd like to ask everyone, Would you mind um us putting our reports at the end of the session, so that we can dive in with Tracy.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Uh to make sure that we make the best use of her time. Please Let's do that. We don't want to waste her time.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: That is that all right, everybody.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, good. Looks like we've got a agreement on that. Okay, So um.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Let me just pull up my questions, I think, Tracy hopefully. You've been uh briefed. Um, but you never know. I know You've had a few busy days, probably in the recent past. Um, so um

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: as people join, so people do tend to join during the course of the meeting. Um, as people join, i'll try to remind everybody uh the reason why we're here is to ask you questions with regard to the issues that are important to this particular group

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: which is issues of the urban canopy tree, health, green space and streetscape. So those are all of the things that are really important to us, and they are part of um a responsibility that the city takes on in many respects, because there's so much uh street

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: in Los Angeles as well as you know, green spaces that we like to support. So uh, without further ado, I'm going to ask the questions of you. Tracy.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um, I think Tracy doesn't need any introduction. Um! She is an eight for the Council District eleven uh Council District spot. Um! It's been a very topsy turvy uh

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: election period for the Los Angeles City Council. Um. And so uh, this question actually might be inaccurate now. But, uh, i'm going to go ahead and ask it anyway. After this election we are in a unique situation. There will be a new mayor,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: at least two new Council people, perhaps more, and a new chief sustainability Office officer in the city, and it's also in the middle of a budget cycle.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So what do you think are the highest budget allocation priorities for the maintenance of tree canopy, one of our greatest cooling infrastructures, and for green space.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Oh, you're muted You're going to have to unmute yourself. Sorry

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Traci Park: that would help if you could hear me. There we go. So thank you for having me today. It's great to see you all here today, and it's been great getting to know you over the last year and a half of my campaign. Um! I just wanted before I dive into the details of answering your question. I just want to acknowledge that you know protecting and preserving our tree can be, and really leaning into our recreation, and public and green spaces have been cornerstones of my platform

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Traci Park: um from day one, and I know how important this issue is to you, and it's been an absolute privilege to get to join you and see some of the work that you guys are doing on. My,

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Traci Park: I've been out a couple of times to spend some time with um Burden and Venice and you you just It's It's incredible that volunteers all over the community are coming together to really center these issues. Um in in our neighborhoods, and I just I respect and admire it so much, and I really welcome the opportunity

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Traci Park: um to be a partner to you as we go forward. Um! And I will be more than happy and willing to utilize the influence and resources of our Council office to make sure that you guys have the support of the tools that you need to keep doing this really important work.

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Traci Park: Um. So in terms of budget, allocation and and the priorities Um, let me just begin this discussion by saying, You know I I have said this repeatedly throughout my campaign. Um, I am going to lobby hard to get a seat on the Budget and Finance committee. Um at City Hall,

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Traci Park: you know. Obviously the Mayor and that committee are probably the two most uh influential pieces of the city budget. And, in my view.

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Traci Park: Budgeting really is a matter of leadership and priorities, and there is a lot of work to be done in terms of, you know, allocating in many ways. What is a limited amount of dollars and resources to the things that the city needs and wants to do? Um, and how we prioritize those really is influenced by um by the mayor and the members of the committee. In fact, I met with Paul Korean

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Traci Park: a week or so ago. Uh, he's the chair of the committee, and we talked about committee assignments, and so he already knows that i'm looking to join him on that committee, and I hope when I get there. Um! That that he will um work with me to get that done. So i'll hopefully be in a position to really lean into that um as we think about how to allocate funding for our urban canopy and other greening initiatives around the city.

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Traci Park: as part of our city, and prioritize it accordingly. I've been really clear in my campaign that prioritizing investment in infrastructure and capital improvement projects, particularly things that align with our values on climate and sustainability are going to be a top issue for me. And so I think that I really identifying the investment in trees in our at our account.

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Traci Park: uh makes sense, and using that language around it, will help as we move into um the budgeting discussions. Um, I did read through the feedback memo that you sent with the policy goals in it, and you know there's not a single thing there that I take any issue with. I think that makes a lot of sense. Um, I know. One of your later questions relates to increasing the city budget from a quarter of a percent up to at least one. And that is certainly something that

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Traci Park: you know. I'm willing to advocate and law before um. Oftentimes, though, as we're making priorities, you know, it means reducing funding somewhere else to increase funding for a different project or program or issue. And I do think that our tree canopy, and you know our urban greening projects are something that we need to put our money where our mouth is, and as we see densification coming to our city and the loss of trees

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Traci Park: around the city. We need to really center that into our discussions. And this relates to a lot of different things, planning and enforcement of different ordinances, and how we're going to really incorporate those into our long term strategic planning. So I say that all sort of a general in overview into my thinking about these issues. Um, So yes, I I In addition to the cities general funds.

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Traci Park: Um! There's a lot of other really sort of creative and innovative ways that one can get to additional funding that may be useful to support efforts like the kinds of initiatives that you are interested in. Um

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Traci Park: one tool that we see cities using around California, and this is something that some of the cities that i've worked with has done is establishing landscape and lighting assessment districts, and that's something where you can, you know,

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Traci Park: use public improvement to to funds, to include street trees and street lights and recreational facilities, and you know that requires, you know, a majority of um property owners within the district to agree to it. But I think, you know, if we got creative in the way that we pitch this

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Traci Park: to a community, we might be see some broad support for it. Um! Another thing that cities have done with some success is a parcel tax

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Traci Park: that creates a dedicated funding stream specifically for street trees. Now, again, that has to be approved by voters. So this is another effort that would have to go to them. Um! Some cities have issued general obligation funds that can be retired through general tax revenue revenues to raise money for various screening initiatives, including um planting trees. But again, that's a voter type proposition.

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Traci Park: Um. So there are other funding instruments, you know, Federal State and private foundation grants um. I suspect that you guys probably work with a lot of the different, You know, private sector organizations where that graph funding comes from.

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Traci Park: One of the things that I am going to do in the Cd eleven office is actually hire our own graph writer. Um. There are so many city departments that leave money on the table just because they don't have a body to write the Grants applications, and I want to have a pipeline of shovel ready projects that we can bring to the West side, you know, after the great Recession in two thousand and eight uh our city left almost all of that funding that was available.

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Traci Park: Um from the Federal Government on the table, just because they didn't have things in the pipeline ready to go. You know we are unfortunately

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Traci Park: always responding to crises rather than proactively planning ahead for things that need to be done. And so this is sort of how I intend to govern and manage the office. I want to have those resources available, and my expectation would be partnering with organizations like yours. When you identify certain programs and opportunities. Um is to make my staff available to partner with you to make sure that we're applying for anything and everything that we can use here on the West Side.

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Traci Park: Um some other ways to generate revenue. Um outside of the city's general fund. Um would include things like compensatory payments, environmental fees. Um, It tree work permits development and inspection fees, utility bill donations, which is something that we've seen other large cities with their own utilities uh implement. We certainly could do that here through Dwp. Um. There are

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Traci Park: possible opportunities at the Federal level to really promote um Federal tax incentives um for organizations um, and and businesses that are engaging in tree planting. Um, I think this also raises the larger question of carbon trading um, and something that there's been a lot of discussion about nationally That, I think is really interesting that could provide opportunities for carbon um offset credits for businesses and and developments that want to

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Traci Park: Um! And then, of course, really just continuing to lead into the you know, the private donations and and corporate partnerships to get funding available um to the extent that discretionary funds from the Council Office Um can be used to help support some of these initiatives, I am certainly open to doing that as well. So, in addition to the city's general funds, I think that we really are just going to have to get innovative and creative, and work hard to secure the opportunities that are out there.

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Traci Park: Um, you know, and it's not just the trees right. It's the maintenance of the trees. It's the replacement of the trees it's. How do we manage the watering while we're also concerned about drought? How do we ensure that where the community members and residents are responsible for maintaining those trees actually have the resources to do it where the system is going to be in place to make sure that the trees are being cared for are the city departments that have an a hand on managing our city.

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Traci Park: These trees and other green spaces, adequately funded and resourced uh to do the work that they need to do. So I see this is a really, you know, multi layered very large question. You know it's not. Just how do we invest in planting new trees? It's How do we fund the existing programs and resources and departments and staff that we have that that touch these issues. So I think it's a it's a broader view, and um! I really welcome the opportunity to take

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I sorry about that. Um, thanks, Tracy, for that answer. Um! We actually uh would welcome working with, uh, whoever should land in Cd Eleven's Council District Office. Um, We have actually been writing some grants of our own, so we're um developing

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um: Okay, would that be so refreshing to have an actual partnership where we can work together and support each other. Yeah, great. Um. So our second question is, ninety of our urban canopy is on private land.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Would you be open to more restrictions on tree cutting on private property, like requiring all trees to be reflected on demolition plans, and the developer to show the necessity for such trees to be removed.

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Traci Park: Yes, that's easy. That's an unequivocal S. Um. Yes, so not only should they be reflected on those plans, but I think we need to get more serious about mandating their replacement

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Traci Park: if and when they're going to be cut down. Um, and you know I was recently looking at um it's section sixty-two point, one seventy or or two hundred and seventy. That says that you know the Board of Public Works

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Traci Park: And I think that piece of ordinance actually should be revised to say Shelby, right? Because now it is, it may be required, you know. So perhaps an amendment there that says, you know to the extent re fe fe feasible shall be. And I really think that you know, as we are

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Traci Park: thinking about development and density over these next um. You know number of years. The Council Office is going to be in a position to work closely with developers that are are bringing you projects into the district, and I think there is a huge opportunity there to focus

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Traci Park: on the importance of green spaces and vegetation and trees, and really making those conditions um uh required in order to get approval. And you know, while i'm thinking of it,

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Traci Park: I wanted to give you a link

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Traci Park: to a video. Hold on, Give me one second because I want to share this in the chat. Hold on,

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Traci Park: all right, i'll. I'll circulate it in an email. But there's this great video.

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Traci Park: It's It's ten minutes. It's too long to play for you. I just wanted to give it to you, so you could see it now. The video really sort of, you know. It includes some, you know, political commentary on densification. Take that for what you will. I'm not endorsing the political message behind it, but it really does. It's got some beautiful drone footage of the city of Los Angeles is urban canopy, and it shows how in our single family um right single family home zones, you see a much larger urban canopy. But

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Traci Park: you can move over to places like West del a satell where you have so much multi-family. You see far fewer trees. Yeah, the video talks a lot. About how you know, as we add that densification. We're losing so much of that for us, and I just want to show it to you because it's got some beautiful um aerial footage of different places in the city. Just ignore the political commentary about the housing part of it, but I think you might find it really interesting. Um. So anyway, i'll show that with you. But yeah, I think

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Traci Park: densification? Because we have a mandate to do it right. We have to build four hundred and fifty thousand new units in our city, and we're in the process now doing our community plan updates, and I'm going to be in a position to have some influence over the conditions on things coming into the district and for me personally, the commitment to trees and green spaces and open pistols and and and green spaces that are publicly accessible are going to be really important. And you know, developers that are committed to, you know, sustainable design, and

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: question. Number three. Um. We have present legal structures in place that are very pro tree, but they are not getting enforced. No. So there are several city codes meant to increase canopy on private land. For example, Code says that there should be fifty percent canopy cover

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: What would you do to foster enforcement or to entice compliance with the tree Protection laws already on the books.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Uh, that's the That's the first section of the question, and the second is, would you support an overhaul of building code to lessen some requirements and stiffen others that are geared toward environmental benefit and fighting climate change.

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Traci Park: that, you know says you can't put like construction materials like in a place where it's damaging a tree or plants or shrubs. I see that violated all the time. Um! And so, like many of these efforts to protect the canopy, we just simply don't have the enforcement

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Traci Park: you know, rules and laws on books are only as useful as the tools available to ensure. They're being complied with. And this is something where I see the city fail on a lot of different levels, unless it's parking enforcement. We seem to have plenty of resources to write parking tickets. Um, but not enough to, you know. Do other? You know kinds of citywide enforcement? So I think you know the concept of creating a system

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Traci Park: Um! What I support overhauling building codes to lessen some requirements, and step in codes that are geared towards environmental benefits and finding climate change. So the answer to what I want to overhaul the code. Yes, absolutely. Frankly, I think most of the city's municipal code is overdue for a major overhaul. I i'm perfectly well aware that that is a major undertaking. Not something that I can do in my capacity alone as a Council member. But I think that there certainly are major sections of it

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Traci Park: where you know we have miscellaneous pieces of rules and regulations scattered across different sections of the municipal code in a way that can make it really difficult to do comprehensive research. It could make it really challenging for someone who wanted to even study the issue, to even know where to start.

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Traci Park: So partnering with the city attorney's office, for one thing, and then other um departments and divisions that have a hand on this to create one set of guidelines and rules, so that it's all organized in a way that is accessible and consistent.

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Traci Park: Um makes a lot of sense. Um, I don't want to see the lessening of requirements related to green space and trees. What I want to see is a really laser focus on incorporating those programs into our planning and development processes.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: You know there might be some cases where it's just not feasible to do that, in which case. Okay, but where and how are we going to plant these replacements? And what is our plan to sustain them? Going forward? Right? Okay, Thank you. I think it's a it's a It's a job for a City council person to bring planning and building into alignment with that value. Yes, okay. So um. So I did. You mentioned this earlier? Maybe we need to just get to the next question. But

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: large cities, like Los Angeles, typically spend about one of their overall budget on growing and maintaining the urban. Kennedy

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: La presently spends only a quarter of a percent. Would you support an increase to one of the budget? Yeah, yeah, I I would. And you know, I think we've talked about that. I give you a number of different ideas and strategies for how to do that in terms of governing, and and where I can be influential on it as a way to raise additional revenue and strategies for security funding. So yes,

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Traci Park: in our budgeting process. We're just continuing to kick the can down the road, and we're already at a tipping point, and we're already in the community where we're short of meeting our goals on green spaces and sustainability. That's a no brainer. That's easy for me to say. Yes,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, thank you. Um. What are your views on the need for green space in Venice, in light of the fight against heat, and it's beneficial effect for biodiversity, for instance, Blue Birds have recently returned to the West Side because of placing of bird houses in Penmark golf course.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: What is your policy about green space in light of the misuse of designated green space at Jefferson, adjacent to B on a creek. So those are two questions that have to do

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Traci Park: well maintained, safe, accessible, funded restoring when we need to, and investing in those improvements. Um is absolutely essential, and that's going to be something that I am committed to doing um always. And this needs to be a matter of our long term community planning, and you know this ties right back into the the budget prioritizations as well.

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Traci Park: Um, the environmental destruction that has gone on there. It's going to take some time to recover from that. The bacteria levels are high in the in the fresh water part of the marsh. All of that pollution, of course, runs right into the ocean, and

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Traci Park: a a it has been a head scratcher to me. Why, environmental organizations are out there just screaming bloody murder over it. And I have been in dozens dozens of meetings over the last year, and a half, trying to get every layer of government from the City Council office all the way up to the State,

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Traci Park: Um! So you know, I and I think that to the extent that we can, you know, continue to improve our parks and other green spaces

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay. Moving on uh Number Six, we have here. Um, How do you plan to clean. This is a actually a question that was um put forward by a member of the public prior to um. These meetings, in order to to collect uh things that were

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Plant undergrowth, larger trees, the medians and install irrigation for them.

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Traci Park: Okay. Great question. And we have a lot of places in the district that frankly are just, you know, shabby and and unattractive, and not well cared for, reflective of the city's general overall lack of attention and care to

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Traci Park: basic municipal services. Now that said, there are some places where there has been a pretty good job of maintaining um. You know the the medium. And I think you know, for example, Jefferson imply a vista uh which has been well planted and well cared for as an example of an area that we've gotten right

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Traci Park: It's, we said W. Is a West Chester, and they they do streetscape improvements, and they've done some great work on medians um down in in their commercial district. Um, and I think, leaning into

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Traci Park: Um. Lincoln Boulevard is probably one of the ugliest. I'm. Sorry to say it out loud, but it just is um, and I live right at Linkedin in Washington, and I travel linking every day. And you know, I think about the fact that that is pch through Venice, and that is what

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Traci Park: all, all of that. Um! All of those are important goals. So um yes, we do need to plant there, and we have a lot of work to do to beautify that that area. And there's some other places around the district that also need some serious attention.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, thank you, Tracey. I I don't know if this is still the truth. But um this cal trans, which is presently the authority that has responsibility for Lincoln Boulevard is going to be passing it back, and we can fast forward. Is the plan that is going to um

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: plan or the section, so i'm not sure exactly how it's gonna work. But I will tell you that when I spoke on the phone with the engineer at Cal. Trans. He told me. We don't have any time or money, or anything for any of those things that you're asking for. So I think it's been. It takes some real major strategy

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: for us to say you cannot pass this back to us until it's in workable order, and that includes shade trees, and well, it absolutely doesn't need to include that. So I could have sworn that the the this, the plans for part of it. But if i'm wrong about that. I need to go back, and already look because you're right.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: They're not. That absolutely has to be Really, they're not there, and they they um. The only thing that they're improving is they're actually putting in more um crosswalks,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: but they're not including plans. They say they were. They weren't on the last plans. I saw you right. I just pulled it up right now. I'm looking at it. You're right, I sure don't see the any plans in there for so that that's That's something that bears a lot of discussion. And um hopefully we'll have an opportunity to do that in the future. Yeah, that entire project needs a lot of discussion. Absolutely. Okay. So um. Another project that has come up and has loomed large for all of us.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um! Is the Penmar Rose Path project uh the city is in the last throes of going forward with a plan to put in a concrete sidewalk, or once a dirt path had run on the south side of Penmark golf course,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and many in the community came together to propose a Dg. Plan, a green space, and many larger trees,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and hopefully a median with trees. The ha! The city has um put forward a plan that's quite substandard in um the views of the folks on this committee at least. Um! If you are elected Council person, would you be willing to go back

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Traci Park: to the drawing board and try to improve this project. Yeah, I will. And you know I've had um multiple meetings with uh residents and stakeholders in that neighborhood over the last year and a half. We've had many, many conversations about this proposal and um! There are a lot of different views and opinions on what it should be, and what the elements of it should be.

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Traci Park: Um, And so yes, I am more than happy to get in the middle and revisit the plan on that. I think that there are a lot of different good ideas and a lot of different things that can all be incorporated together um to to to improve that

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Traci Park: the city's proposal on it. I agree with you. It's not adequate the way it is so. Yes, I will really lean into that. But I'm really going to work with the community on it. I want it to be what you know. They want it to be in It's really reflective of, you know why I got into this race. In the first place, I just feel like for so long.

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Traci Park: You know the Council Office Hasn't been responsive or interested in any real engagement, and I feel like, even when they do have meetings with the public. It's just giving it short shrift. It's not actually hearing the concerns or figuring out ways to incorporate the things that communities are asking for,

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Traci Park: and that's something that I really welcome the opportunity to change them. You know, I think, that every community should have a true say,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um! And what I would like to do is give an opportunity to the committee members and and the members of the public that are with us to ask other questions that um they may be concerned about. So. Um!

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Put your hands up, and then we can go ahead and um ask some more questions of Tracy. And I think probably we'll have another five minutes of your time. Is that okay? Tracy. Sure. Okay. Um. Okay. Anyone that's got a question. Please go ahead and raise your hand.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Looks like Michael Mcguffin.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Michael, Please unmute yourself.

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Michael McGuffin: Hi, Tracy and I will join others in uh thanking you for being with us today. Um, i'm the lucky guy, the avid uh gardener. I've got a lot

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Michael McGuffin: here across the street from my house, and I grow fruits and vegetables, and let me let me draw the vision of what should have been one hundred and twenty, one hundred and fifty, three hundred years ago. Every Southern lot of every block in Los Angeles should have not been allowed to put a house on it so that we could have planted

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Michael McGuffin: the food that would feed us. It's too late now. It's too expensive, and I I don't really have a concept here. So it's really just throwing it out for a conversation rather than an answer. But what can be done? What could you do? What can the City council person. Do you strongly encourage?

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Michael McGuffin: Kind of it really is private personal community based um engagement in turning

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Michael McGuffin: empty spaces into gardens for production? I mean, as you know, everybody on this call knows I'm going to plant as many native plants as I can. But but what about separate from that? To grow food that we can eat.

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Traci Park: Um. So it's a great question, Michael, and it just reminded me of something that I didn't say earlier when we were talking about things. But the greening of rooftops

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Traci Park: is a concept that I just absolutely love that happening in other parts of California and in different places around the country. Um, but it's a great way to add additional trees and plants um and and and utilizing what is in most cases, you know, dead space, concrete space on top of buildings. That is something that I would really love to lean into separate note, not really related to trees, but related to Bees

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Traci Park: Cisco. They actually have beehives of on top of buildings all of the city, and they up there, and I just absolutely love. I feel that that I have reached out some years back to um.

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Traci Park: Our city's sustainability team about it, and kind of got a short ship restrict response about. Oh, you know, we like these ideas keep them coming. I don't think anything ever happened with it, but I would love to see more of that on the west side, and this really sort of ties back to what I what I was talking about. Development and density, and what projects we're approving, and the kinds of things that we'd like to see mandated as conditions. Um, but I think there's a huge opportunity there. Um! And you could use spaces like that for community gardens and growing food.

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Traci Park: Um. Community gardens, of course, are becoming increasingly popular all over the city. Um, I I love those as a community resource. There are vacant lots where adopt a lot. Programs have become increasingly popular to some extent here in Los Angeles. Um, but I see it in other cities as well. Those are opportunities to convert those spaces into gardens, and you can grow food, or, you know, put trees, or, you know, like park benches and other things, to really make

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Traci Park: The greening of our alleyways is another innovative concept that i'm seeing in other communities not as much here in Los Angeles, but a great opportunity. Where you complex shade trees, install plate, place structures you could certainly add, you know, a a food or vegetable garden as one of the elements there as well. So I think there's a lot of different ways that we can, you know, try to supplement the idea that you have, and and and take some elements of that and bring it to fruition.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Sorry I i'm trying to type notes, and I don't want to bother you guys with the set of my typewriter. Um, Robin, you had a question. Yes, please go ahead.

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Robin Murez: Yeah, um, Tracy. I always learn so much from you. I didn't realize you were going to be on this zoom, and i'm thrilled to have heard your responses to the questions, something I wanted to mention to this group

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Robin Murez: is Um. I've been appalled. That Sierra Club endorsed

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Robin Murez: um. The policies that have deteriorated many sensitive zones in Cd eleven, and I put in a call, and i'm wondering whether we can um soon get uh the um

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Robin Murez: audio of this um interview or this um question answer with Tracy um the uh, and and I would encourage everybody to either email or call um. The director of our local chapter of The Sierra Club is Morgan Goodwin.

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Robin Murez: His phone number is two, one, three,

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Robin Murez: three, eight, seven, seven, I i'm sorry. Three, eight, seven, four, two, eight, seven

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Robin Murez: I, I've been a supportive. So here are a club, and I've told them that I I just canceled my um donations,

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Robin Murez: and I told them that this is the reason why they are endorsing the wrong candidate. I don't know It's late in the process, but here seems like we still could do that. Um, and perhaps send them also. Then i'd like to send them this audio of um Tracy, addressing

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Traci Park: Thank you as always, Robin, for your support. And um I I I don't know what to tell you about the Cr Club. That was a head scratcher to me. You know you pick the guy, drives the gas guzzling range, Rover over the girl who's a vegetarian and rides a bike

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, It looks like we have another question from Elvina Elvina. Please go ahead, hey? I don't know If you guys can hear me,

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Elvina: I can. Hi! O vena! How are you? I, Tracey, I do agree with Robin. You are on top of it. Love your references and having everything on screen. Um. So i'm sure you guys are all familiar. I did the adopt Median uh program that La City offers. I did it on the median which is on Venice Boulevard and Washington way. I was just bringing it up because I did need a Council member support letters in order to get that as well as the Vnc letter of support. Without both of those I would have never been able to obtain. That

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Elvina: I did, did the project a little backwards, whereas I did it, and then I kind of something like back permitted it. Um, which nonetheless, um, you know, is not supposed to be that way supposed to do it um like the right way, but either way requires a letter of support. So just the only thing I want to ask is um, is there a way to get the adopted Median program a little better advertised. So people know how they can take these bare services and essentially contract with the city to take care of it. Um, Essentially, my responsibility is to water weed

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Elvina: clean. Um, and I do take a lot of effort and love in doing that. But I think if more people could adopt meetings or like you said um, you know, just like different areas. But I think it's very poorly advertised. And so someone like um mark um. I don't want to say his last name, or is it rape?

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Elvina: Thank you. Thank you. Um. He had a lot more difficulty in that I did um putting it up. Um, you know the dot requires a certain height for these plans. The city of La requires nonthony uh plans, so that you know they don't have liability issues. So there are certain rules that are very simple to go through. Um, but I just wanted to know how we could better advertise, adopt to medium program, and of course, that requires, You know, the City Council support along with the Neighborhood Council.

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Traci Park: It's a great question, Elvin, and thank you for bringing it up, because it was one of the things that I meant to mention in my list of like. How can we, you know, do more to convert spaces, and that we have already, and green them. And I meant to mention that I completely forgot about it.

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Traci Park: Um! So how do we get the word out? Well, you know, I think your council member is going to have a huge platform when she takes office here in a short few weeks, and I think really making

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Traci Park: an educate a concerted education campaign around it would help with it. Um! And I also think that incentivizing local business owners and property owners

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Traci Park: to get involved in those kinds of programs. I is really important, and that's something where I, as a Council member can really lean into my relationships existing business community. Certainly something that

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Traci Park: you know we can bring up as part of our development strategy in the city as well, because now I, as we think about development Right? No, this is coming. We know we have this mandate to, you know, increase densification. But What I see happening all the time is,

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Traci Park: you know these buildings come in, trees are removed. They're not replaced. There's no open public green space or poseo in that development. And these developers make you know, millions and millions of dollars, and yet they're not giving anything back to the community. And I think that you know, to the extent we can really think about ways

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Traci Park: to center greening and investing in green spaces as part of our development strategy. We need to be doing that. And those are simple apps that you know we could make of the Development Community to, you know. Really get them more invested

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Traci Park: um and get. I'll offer some additional community benefits in exchange for the profits and the benefits they're getting from being able to build in our communities. Um. And especially when you look at you know how areas that have densified have lost so much of the canopy. I think it really makes some sense that they have to give back on the green and sustainable side.

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Elvina: So yeah, I appreciate you saying that I just want to just really touch on. I'm trying to do the same thing in Hollywood right now, and it is definitely uh harder uh doing it like I was saying like right on the way in, instead of just doing it and doing in the back permit. So incentivizing local businesses is a big thing you just said, instead of just waiting for them to come to you, it'd be really great to reach out to local businesses and say, Hey, why don't you adopt this corner that you're already on an easiest to water for. So yeah, it's definitely a hard process. If you don't know what you're doing, or even if you did once,

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Traci Park: Yeah. And and I wouldn't think we Haven't really talked about today. That's kind of part of my economic and environmental platform is the creation of green investment districts around Cd Eleven. You know, we have our bids. But the green investment district is a concept that um. I have worked with some other cities to do, and essentially under the plan it would.

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Traci Park: investing in and incentivizing new business here on the West Side that aligns with our values on climate and sustainability, particularly in a community where we already have a tech heavy presence,

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Traci Park: makes a lot of sense. And so these sort of, you know, clean tech incubators around the district, and we've got resources for it in Venice and via vista um, and in other parts of our communities um incentivizing businesses that are committed to sustainability and rewarding them. Uh, we're rewarding out incentivizing businesses that are committed to environmental best practices, you know, that will get involved with adopted corners, adopting meetings, you know, converting it an alley way into a group.

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Traci Park: I I think there's so much opportunity there um to to really lean into that, and so that that that's a huge part of my platform on economic and the economy and the environment. And this is a perfect example of the kind of thing i'd like to see happening as part of that.

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Noel Johnston: Okay, thank you. Tracey. Um Noel. Will you go ahead with your question. Yeah, I've got a short one here. I know Tracy's uh must be running out of time here. Uh and she answered, Part of my question, uh, which was related to Well, Venus, in a way, I I think that it's uh that.

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Noel Johnston: instead of penalizing people for removing a tree, i'd like to see people rewarded for keeping a trade, and i'd also like to see uh some sort of an education program, because our our worst enemy, so far with this, has been ignorance on the public's part uh people that say I, I don't. I don't need to water the tree in the parkway, because the city does that. Well, the city actually doesn't do that, And there's there's a a a sort of a

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Noel Johnston: I would say, a a public misconception, that the city is going to take care of all this, and you that as a member of the community. You don't really have to do anything about trees that the city is going to take care of that, and that's just not true needs. We need a little education on that. I I hope you would find a way to do that.

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Traci Park: I I I think that's a really good point. Um, no, All so. Thank you for saying that, and I and I hear you about in Enforcement versus incentivize right? And so what are the things that we can do to incentivize the good behavior that we want to see right? Can we reduce fees and permit costs for developers that are going to, you know. Do the things we ask of them. That additional trees that you know include the green spaces and and and things that we've been talking about over the course of

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Traci Park: the zoom today. Um, you know the speed up the the permitting process, you know. Kick some of the additional bureaucracy out of the way where we actually have a design that does the things that we want them to do. So I definitely see you know the need for the incentive side of it. But the reality is, you know there's always going to be some bad actors, and there are so many different pieces of code that apply.

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Traci Park: Um, I I think it needs to be a dual prompt approach.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Great. Thank you for that. Answer. I think on that. Oh, Elvina, do you still have your hand up?

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: No, sorry. That's all right. No worries. I think that we should close on that. I think that it's very um informative to have your views on all of these questions. We will, I will ask um

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: uh Jim Meres to post this as soon as he can, and uh, so that it will be on the public record, and people have an opportunity to to review it. Um

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and i'm also very encouraged that you've been able to spend the time with us in your busy day. I know that these last weeks of the campaign are really tough, so please um accept our deepest apologies for taking up your time, but our also deep, deep uh gratitude for sharing your time with us, and letting us know what your views consist of. So I'm. I'm happy to be here, and like I said, I really do welcome the opportunity to serve as your partner and your ally and your friend,

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Traci Park: and and I again just want to thank you for the incredible work that you do, and the amount of volunteerism that you bring to our community. It speaks volumes of you, and I'm very grateful for it. There is actually another community on fire right now in Venice, um on Flower Street. We have another home burning, and so I am going to head over there and pop in and check on neighbors to make sure everyone is okay.

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Traci Park: frustrated and angry about what is happening in in our city and in our district. And I just. I I wanted to just sort of add, This is my final plug before I go. You know, running for office is really hard. It's a heavy lift.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Yeah. It's like It's it's it's It's It's it's It's

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Robin Murez: Thank you. We need you, and thank you. I'm going to work really hard to make you. Proud.

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Robin Murez: There's an event tonight, and if anybody's interested um, I have the info on it for Tracy. So um whomever can make it? Just,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay? Well, I'm: so glad. It looks like we were able to get to our question and answer in forty minutes Something like that. Not too bad. Um!

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And uh that kind of wraps up our kind of conversation with political candidates. Um, we will be uh approaching new uh speakers to come to our future groups.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um, but those, I think, were the the most important two conversations to have for this particular fall. Um, Now let's, so we return back to the top of the agenda and um,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: my report is, I don't need to record anything today since we've been through the conversation. But, Isabel, do you have anything new to report with regard to Uh. C fact and citywide policy matters?

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Isabelle Duvivier: Uh: Yeah. So uh, C. Fact. You know, we've we've drafted a very extensive letter about urban forestry policy and budget goals. Uh, we're continuing to revise that letter based on more information that's coming like today. We interviewed Leon Bordovsky

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Isabelle Duvivier: and Um, and found out his budget is only two million dollars, and he needs at least four times the number of staff. So we're including stuff like that in our In our Budget letter we have our first big meeting today. We're meeting with Council Member Bloominfeld from Cd. Four,

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Isabelle Duvivier: yeah, so um, or they they or they have resigned so. Um. But I think more important than the Council offices The way the budget Process works is on November seventeenth. My understanding is is that the departments are supposed to have their fiscal budget proposals

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Isabelle Duvivier: available. And so we're really targeting the departments Right now we're sending it to planning

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Isabelle Duvivier: um. We're sending it to Bureau Street services, Alex. And the Mayor's office. So we're really trying to hit hard with the various um city departments, and then we'll slowly start to focus down on the City Council Office. Um:

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Isabelle Duvivier: So yeah, that's been rather exhausting. If anybody wants to help, that would be great we could use, as Sarah and I are meeting with Caruso's office today.

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Isabelle Duvivier: uh, unfortunately, we didn't get a Oh, close up with Karen Bass. That might be something we could do. I mean we did have a meet and greet with her, but it was in a larger form today's meeting Sarah actually um

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Isabelle Duvivier: um ignited uh when she visited uh there. Who's the guy that we're meeting today? Is it meeting with their environmental team? Actually, it's their environmental. Um, uh,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: you know, policy folks. So you know we're not with the meet the mayor himself. Um, but I don't think it's. I don't think it's that important. I think it's important to talk to the policy folks are dropping this policy. We got the meeting through his son Alex Crusoe,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: who um was kind enough to put us in touch with the folks that we're meeting with. Um. I don't know I i'm i'm sure that I could probably dig up a meeting with Karen Bass's environmental team, and I I do wanna

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: state openly in this meeting that we are with all races that we touch. We are trying to retain a neutral stance so that we can um rely on a good relationship with whichever candidate wins the office.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um! So you know that's that's a separate thing from who we vote for. Who we support in our private time. But while we're in this meeting, certainly the committee members, I think we're all committed to trying to make sure that we can be incredibly effective after this election takes place, no matter where the chips fall.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um. So that's um. That's. I finish with my report. Okay, Yeah. So um urban forestry somehow managed to find a million dollars millions of dollars in an oak tree

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Isabelle Duvivier: um

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Isabelle Duvivier: in an oak tree mitigation fund that had been collecting money since nineteen eighty-three, and they are. They've just released um where they're going to be planting oak. Trees.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Unfortunately, there the oak tree mitigation money is typically oak trees in the Santa Monica Mountains, and the mitigation money is going in the you know, in in council districts in low income neighborhoods so cd eleven is getting thirty-nine new oak trees

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Isabelle Duvivier: uh the only ones that will be planted in our neighborhood in that in kind of sort of then it's not Really, it's actually more like Marvista is on Venice Boulevard, between what walgrove and sentinel they'll be planting five

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Isabelle Duvivier: of a hundred and fifty-four trees that are to be planted, and those trees include three years of watering.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um! I think it was about four thousand dollars a tree, so that you can figure out how much money. It was six hundred thousand dollars. They found um in a discretionary fund in public works for uh, oak tree mitigation,

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Isabelle Duvivier: um! And then, as you all know. Tomorrow we're meeting at gold. I think that's all I have to report at all. Are those oak trees going in the medium? Yeah, okay. And How are they going to water them? Are they putting in uh irrigation?

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah, Yeah. Yeah. So the funding comes with it. Watering.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So that's six hundred thousand dollars will be used to water, and they're planting. Most of the trees are going into Cd. Twelve. They're putting in ninety-six degrees

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Isabelle Duvivier: um and I I in clusters, like thirty-three of those trees will be on Latin Avenue at Yolanda thirty one trees the valley circle. Um. So those are the trees where most of the oats were removed.

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Isabelle Duvivier: There was one other thing I wanted to say. Oh, yesterday Cfac had its first banner meeting a new subcommittee that Joanne started. We're working on trying to uh come up with educational banners that we can then request each

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Isabelle Duvivier: Neighborhood Council um vote on, and then have put on

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Isabelle Duvivier: a lamp posts, and they will. We'll have rotating uh banners that will say it'll have like, Do this Don't do that so it'll have a picture of a tree that's been chopped in a picture of a tree nicely pruned, or um a picture of a tree that's watered. It'll be really super basic, but just trying to open up um general education about trees

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Isabelle Duvivier: interested in joining with that.

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Isabelle Duvivier: That's my report. Thank you.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Thank you, Isabel. Now well do you have anything to report.

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Noel Johnston: Yeah, a a few small things. Isabel already uh mentioned that we're going to be at gold uh this weekend uh we are going to take out all of the uh agabase that have been hit by the uh snot weevil, and we are going to uh plant some uh

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Noel Johnston: additional greenery that will not be.

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Noel Johnston: We're we're working hard on and coming up with our water solutions for that that area, because uh, as helpful as we as we hope they would be, and we have a homeowner. Um when it's free.

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Noel Johnston: Who has has been water in the bed? Um

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Noel Johnston: intermittently uh, but well, and we uh he's out of town a lot. We hope he will keep it up. But we're kind of come up with more imaginative ways of watering that bed because it really does need it now. On uh dove

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Noel Johnston: we are going to uh have a uh burden Tree walk with Lynn Boroditski at ten o'clock on uh on Saturday at the uh at Mar Vista. We're doing this in uh in collaboration with the Marvista Arab, her group. It's going to be at the Marvist or Recreation center.

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Noel Johnston: Um! And we hope, uh, we hope we get a good turn out for this. We have with the milestone social meeting.

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Noel Johnston: You give me the date and time of that again. No? Well, yeah, I can. I can send you the the little flyer on it. But it's Saturday, November fifth, at ten o'clock, and we're meeting at the children's playground by the bathrooms and the Marvest recreation center.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, Thank you.

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And that's about it.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, Got it? So yeah, I mean it. It's It's good, because then I can go ahead and announce it to um

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and she'll put it on the Bnc calendar.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We uh let me go back to the agenda. Here

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: we're finished with our reports. We we should move on to um.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We had talked about. This is old business that we talked about. Should we pass an official treat policy for Venice and for the coastal communities, and I don't think anyone's had a time to study this very closely. Um! I did put this as supplemental as the supplemental

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: documents two meetings ago. Um, the unnc, which is a a united What's that? What is stand for. It's a neighborhood council that's consistent of three different neighborhood councils, and they come together, and they've passed a tree policy. Do we think that this will be

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: expedient. Will this Will this have some effect? Uh! Is about what do you think

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Isabelle Duvivier: it's A. It's their land use and planning uh committee? That is, they're very progressive and very intelligent, and they review. They have a bunch of architects, and then theresa's on that subcommittee. So they've put this together as ways of sharing with developers who come before them. Uh, how they want to look at projects

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Isabelle Duvivier: so! And they've they. They feel like they have successfully worked with large housing projects and gotten better projects based on the principles.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um that you have there. I don't know if you have it handy, but you might want to share, screen and and share with the group what it is, and think it, and decide If you thought that was something

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Isabelle Duvivier: that um we could have our loop pack, too. The only difference is that because sorry someone else is going to say something, but because we're in the coastal zone, just side of Lincoln. We don't really have those gigantic projects that they have just on the other side of Lincoln. So this is something that would be maybe more

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Isabelle Duvivier: um appropriate for the East Venice Neighborhood Council, because there they get a lot of those really terrible housing developments that have no open space and no connection to the street. Um, but here we just have Mc Mansions, really,

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Isabelle Duvivier: So I guess if you could apply it to the Mick mansion i'd be interested in seeing what it is, Sarah. I don't remember the they're finer points. Uh, let me share this screen. Here it is.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Can you guys see that?

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And you're seeing that United Neighborhood Council. Yeah. Okay, good. I have so many other things on my screen. I need to get rid of them. Um: Okay. So

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: you guys can see that. Okay, I'm just scrolling up so you can see the guidelines.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So these are the guidelines that they, I guess, have put out to the developers. At what point are they

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: disseminating this to a developer? Are they finding out about a development because it comes before them as the the land use planning committee?

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Or are they finding out that someone has applied for a permit? What do you know What is the process? They're actually

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Isabelle Duvivier: um. She would be in a better position to talk about it. I know that certainly. By the time the project gets to lu pack um the the developer has seen these principles, and I believe it was approved by the broader Council. So

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Isabelle Duvivier: um i'm not sure how they give it to a developer at what stage of the project, so that would be certainly very interesting. Can you go to the top of the page and see what it says? Maybe it says, Um,

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Isabelle Duvivier: I don't know in land use matters. We have the following guidelines. So they're just guidelines. Um, but yeah, I think we it'd be interesting to I mean reading through on it would be appropriate for any development. Not It's not really

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Isabelle Duvivier: inappropriate for a commercial project an ad you

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Isabelle Duvivier: uh Mick mansion. It's it seems all pretty

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Isabelle Duvivier: like basic stuff.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: By the way, East Venice, it does not have a separate Neighborhood Council. They are part of our than a neighborhood council. That's great. That's right they are, I mean. I think I think, that we would if we were to pass this and send it up to the Neighborhood Council.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We'd have to be very, very political about it, because it would. It would require a lot of

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: politicking, or at least kind of pushing folks um on the best neighborhood Council, because I have. They really don't seem to be very tree oriented on the on the on the board at least, um,

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Robin Murez: you know one. I don't know the excuse me for interrupt I i'm not sure that's totally true. So, Robert Tibeto, who is an architect and is on the board. He's, you know, the head of transportation, and I don't know if you you have seen the design that he put together for Lincoln

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Robin Murez: um boulevard that was full of trees, and really nice, with islands, with trees and all of that. So

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Robin Murez: you know, I think that this is the right direction, and somehow It' to enlighten people. So even developers need to understand that this is the way to go.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I agree, I think. Um, I think we should.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Oh, Michael has this head up. Go ahead, Michael.

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Michael McGuffin: I just wanted to add that I think because this this does not establish a requirement

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Michael McGuffin: that maybe that politicizing element that would be required if that's what we were after. Um, but I think we could

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Michael McGuffin: um, except as as Robin said, and uh, it's it's not only Robert. There are some people, others on the Vnc. I mean Jim's been planting trees for fifteen or twenty years, I think, because this is an ideology

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Michael McGuffin: which makes it a little bland and unimportant in some regard, but that what we're trying to do is identify a value, and maybe that would. We could go into it with a little more optimism that we would get support for expressing this as a value.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, that's That's an interesting way to put it. This is, It's a it's a set of values rather than as requirements. It's guidelines rather than code. It's a way for us to interact with developers and to um kind of educate them rather than uh

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: enforce something. So I think that's that's a good way of putting it. Um, Okay, So

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Michael McGuffin: I think maybe we even try to get Robert

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Michael McGuffin: Uh, or Jim as kind of the primary advocates for considering this, somebody that we already know is aligned to these value

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Robin Murez: right? We could recruit that. That's a great idea. I think that's a great idea, too. I was gonna say i'm sorry I don't see how to raise my hand. I'm using my phone, so i'm sorry that I'm blurting out. But um yeah, when I've brought um proposals to the board, I try to talk to as many of the Board members

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Robin Murez: um one on one before bringing it up, and I think that would be really wise. And I think maybe rather than saying that you're wanting to address developers. Talk about homeowners, you know. Maybe that makes it sound a little bit more friendly. Also

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Robin Murez: that before homeowners, you know. Look at how they want to,

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Robin Murez: you know, renovate, or whatever that they think about these um possibilities. Because I I think, like as Noel said

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Robin Murez: E. Regarding like businesses, not knowing that, you know, like, oh, whoops the city doesn't water the trees. I think there are a lot of just people who are not paying attention. And

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And if you can tell me how to raise my hand on the screen, I wouldn't, you know. I think you can, just, Robin, since we're a pretty limited group, you could just if you put on your camera, and then you raise your physical hand. That'll work

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Barry Campion: Barry. There you are, uh so kind of to Robin's point um in the last, at least ten years, maybe more, on my block on palms, which is a big block. I know of only one actual

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Barry Campion: built their own house. Every other new house is by developer. So even though they're single family, and

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Barry Campion: the landscaping is atrocious. The um

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Barry Campion: the fake lawn has taken over the trees. Go away, I mean It's just so, even for the single family. The developers, you know they just cheese out so. Um, whether it's guidelines or whatever it it would be great to

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Barry Campion: start to have a conversation with. Maybe these these smaller scale developers that are having such a huge impact. Well, actually, they're big developers, I suppose, anyway. Um, but I just wanted to bring that up.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: That's I mean It's just It's good to know the facts right about what we're dealing with, what's going on. So what's really going on on this three. But I agree with you, Robin, in the sense that

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: um

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I set an oppositional tone to the conversation, and um definitely. One of the things I think, that we want to reach for is um making trees a non political but always beneficial presence.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And so, if we if we try to keep it from being politicized, I think we'll accomplish the most, Really, that's that's my feeling. I I don't know if others feel the same way as I do. Um. So it looks like we have two hands up, Barry. Are you still raising your mind? No, i'll take one down.

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Michael McGuffin: Go ahead, Michael. Just a question. I don't see the word developer. In the first two paragraphs I see in land use matters, and I think to Robin's point, or was it? I think it was Robin that made this point Land use Matters means my house and development. Doesn't it so? I think we will that choice of that phrase, unless it says developers someplace else, and I just haven't seen it.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I'm looking down here, and it doesn't um what I think probably the next step we could do is um,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And I think I probably mentioned that I was planning to do this before, but just redraft this, so that it's Venice instead of the Unnc and Um. And then i'll confer with

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: uh

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: enthusiasts. It it says, including coastline of and western sycamore. Maybe there are other trees that we want to add to that for our region, since we are coastally um different, You know we have a We have a coastal weather pattern, that different um, And then we can consider this for a motion next time

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: mhm rather than passing it. This time, unless you guys feel strongly enough about this, and you just want to let me go ahead and redraft it, and then we'll. We'll go ahead and agendize it with um

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, Isabel.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Uh, before we rush to pass it, don't. We want to vet it first with some of the loopack members just to see, so feel them out, and then actually show that another Nc. Past it

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Isabelle Duvivier: without putting our own name on it. Just if we put our name on it. It looks like we're all ready to go if we just share this with them. We can say so. We're thinking about doing something similar. What do you think? And what are your reservations, and what don't you like about it? And then at least we're We appear to be open to listening to them and educating them

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Isabelle Duvivier: while giving them an opportunity to

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, Yeah, that actually, I mean, I think honestly, I think that if we

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: pass this and then put it up to the Nc. Board they're going to say to us, Listen. It has to go through the loop back first before we would consider it, because it is a land use issue.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I'd also like to have Teresa come and present, maybe um to explain to us how they use this.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, that's a great idea.

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Noel Johnston: There we have a joint meeting with land use,

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Noel Johnston: or is that impossible?

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um! I think they have a more flexible schedule. They need almost twice a week, or twice a month, so we could.

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Isabelle Duvivier: We could ask if we could join one of their meetings. They meet in the evening. They probably mostly have jobs because we're all like retired. Not really um.

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Isabelle Duvivier: But I think they the I don't know if they would be able to meet at our time, but maybe we can meet at their time,

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Michael McGuffin: and just one editorial comment I mean, I kind of heard two things. If you're going to show this has already passed some place, then you shouldn't be revising this,

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Michael McGuffin: but the one I I just looking at that first paragraph, have established building guidelines. The word Building doesn't need to be there, have established guidelines to provide design standards.

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Michael McGuffin: So if we're editing, I would just remove that word. But I do also like your idea. Now let's subject it to review by people who are um very experienced in maintaining trees to make sure that we've got all of the points made.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Yeah, I I and I do think that some of the things that we were hearing from our friends in the oak business. Um, Mr. Muffley. Um might. We might want to consider those when we are drafting our own version. Um, because it does affect how, whether or not those trees thrive right? So.

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Robin Murez: So I found the hand. Um, yeah again, even before trying to do a joint meeting with Lupeck or going on to their meeting. I really think it would be good to talk to people one on one um. You want to have some members of their committee,

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Robin Murez: you know, immediately saying we support this. Um, I know Mary Nush is on that. She would. I don't know that she's the strongest advocate on their committee. But again, I would just totally do that where ever possible, because otherwise I think that they

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Robin Murez: take it as though you're an outsider, I think, is the bill. Suggestion is great, though, to be going to them asking for advice. But yeah, I think that

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Robin Murez: it would be good to talk to people one on one before bringing it up to the whole group of either of these groups.

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Robin Murez: That's all

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Isabelle Duvivier: I have to say Noel and I have met with several three exactly three of their members. So far,

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Isabelle Duvivier: not

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Isabelle Duvivier: not an easy conversation to have with them.

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Isabelle Duvivier: It's. It. It requires somebody who's more patient than myself.

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Isabelle Duvivier: No? Well, but maybe Rob, and maybe you could help us.

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Robin Murez: Uh well, you know, I think the other thing is, Maybe it's not a good idea to go to them first. Maybe it's a good idea to talk to Robert Tivo and Jim, and maybe the thing to do is see who else on the board, I think. Probably. Um. Well, I don't know. But uh

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Robin Murez: kai! She, ali, is going to be supportive, you know I would like. Talk to people on the board first one on one, and um see if you can get. You know much more support that way, and maybe the thing is just to take it to the board

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Robin Murez: and

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Robin Murez: take out the language that um

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Robin Murez: that Michael identified doesn't have to say land, you know, or or whatever.

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Robin Murez: Yeah,

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Isabelle Duvivier: we had board support, but they still made us go to loopack, loopack and vote it. I mean, we really want to get loo pack on board, but if Lupac voted it down, the board could still approve it if if we had board approval. Yeah. But then it's more difficult. I would it to me like you could get board approval more readily, and I would first get board approval

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Robin Murez: and then and then bring it to Loop. I can say, Hey, you know the board just to prove this, let's work together on this.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay? Well, that's gonna it. I think it bears more um thinking about, but

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: because i'm actually

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: anticipating that Jim will say, this is a loop pack issue. You can't bring it to the board until they've

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Robin Murez: I don't know this is your your own committee and your your own committee. You're about trees, It's

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Robin Murez: I i'm not sure that I

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I know, and this is this does have a lot to do with

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: um street trees as well, which does not um

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: bluepeck does not

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Isabelle Duvivier: opine on street trees, but the transportation Committee would to make it to them.

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Robin Murez: Well, that's Robert Tibeto, and that's and that's where Yeah, there's gonna be overlap with different committees. So I think you are your own committee, and that's how I think about how you could best approach it, how you the greatest chance of success and try for that.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay,

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Isabelle Duvivier: Great? Okay? Well, I will. I'm gonna

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I. I think I will.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I think I want to. I I think i'll take it. Your advice with regard to the board and and start talking to Robert first.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Now, does Robert also sit on Luca?

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Isabelle Duvivier: No. In order to distribute the workload. I wonder if you want to

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Isabelle Duvivier: email around the board members and see if anybody in Barb has a relationship with a board member and then have them go to the person that has a relationship like.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Does someone know Ali being really well? Does somebody know Sima really well, and then have those people so that you and I are just? You are not having to do all the work, and it also makes this look like we're a little bigger than

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Isabelle Duvivier: somebody somebody. Some people think this this organization is just me,

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Isabelle Duvivier: and now they think it's just you. But we're actually bigger than that. No, no. Well has also presented. And I think actually, you guys are like.

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Robin Murez: Of all the committees, you're like doing more than most any committee, and your presentations are more enlightening than most committees. I mean some committees Haven't even met, or if they have, they're not doing anything

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Robin Murez: I have to say. I was my presentation. Okay the other day, was it not? No, I think that each of the presentations you guys have been doing have been really good, and showing that you are

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Robin Murez: actively doing stuff. And you're out there in the community, and you've gotten a lot of people involved. I heard from a board member uh when we were

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Robin Murez: forming the preserving public Places Committee, she said. Why would you form another committee when the committees that exist, don't even get any attendance,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: you know. So maybe it's a topic that people want to be involved in. Yeah, that's interesting. I have to say, Um, I'm sure that you guys don't know this. You may or may not. But Jamie's emailed us all to say that we weren't in compliance, or he was saying to all the committee chairs we weren't in compliance, and then I looked at my

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: uh our postings of minutes and agenda. And I said, actually at Noel's insistence, Uh, we are in compliance. We might be the only committee that's in compliance. My committee is. Oh, good! I'm so glad.

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Robin Murez: No, Actually, there's kind of a a total irony that I believe I've noticed, and that is, I think, the person who he address that to who is the head of all the committees, is not in compliance, and it's been outrageous, but not I. Don't think I think you can look on

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Robin Murez: that committees uh

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Robin Murez: webpage, and I don't think there's been a single agenda posted this year, or maybe not since. Yeah, So So that's probably why he's gotten his risk. Slap. Yeah.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay? Well, um. Well, thank you for all of you for your input. On that. And I think Um, I think that's what we need to do is we just need to do the background for um, and I've been meeting to approach Robert.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um, anyway. Um, just to kind of smooth over the the Penmar Park

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: um

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: to fuffle uh, because I do think that penmark is not over. I think I think the planning there is still embryonic, especially since Isabel already spoke to the folks, even in my bonnet's office. And they're they're receptive to making changes. Um.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, So moving on to new business. Um, we're one to clock right now. Do you guys have a couple of more minutes for butterfly habitat and field trips of the future?

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um, because I want to. I do want to hear from you guys about these two ideas. One of them is just a very brief conversation when we saw the presentation um at Cfac

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: from a city planner. I think it was a city planner that had worked on Um, Major Greening, of the city of Barcelona. One of the things they did was they

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: uh they seeded the mulch at the understory of their trees, and they allowed wild flowers to come up under those trees that I thought that it would be a nice thing.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I don't know how successful it will be, but we did free all of those Sickmores from the concrete on best. Thanks to no else's organization, should we do a work day at some point where we seed

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: that uh each of those tree wells, so we might have some wild power coming up once it starts writing. When you guys think

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Isabelle Duvivier: Mhm

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Robin Murez: well isn't that how the poppies came up. I figured that that you had done that the poppies that came up around the farmers market.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: That's what we did there. Yeah.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So what do you think is about. I was thinking in the next um. Native wild flowers would be great, because that would, if they grow, that would create some butterfly habitat, and that is a big concern. Um! Where the monarchs are really facing some crises.

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Robin Murez: So monarchs like milkweed and milkweed, is not the most uh attractive of plants to be around. But okay, do you know, there is a

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Robin Murez: it's called Butterfly Alley? Maybe Um, I think it's the Twenty Eighth Street walkthrough between Pacific and

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Robin Murez: uh, what is that? That ally behind the canal behind Grand Canal between Strongs? Maybe it's called Yeah. So years back, I guess. Part of a beautification grant they had. They did

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Robin Murez: apparently plant butterfly plants there uh Middle mead. I don't know that they're thriving um,

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Barry Campion: I mean not not the native milkweed. The other kind of a little junky now pretty junky mixed bag of native and non-native plants. I think Mark Thelante is trying to get people to um. Go over and redo that, you know,

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Robin Murez: rejuvenate it maybe that it it was i'm told. I don't know. He told me if somebody that it was called Butterfly Alley, or something like that. So maybe there's a place, if you want to designate a specific location. Actually the butterflies

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: they utilize monthly for their breeding, but they also utilize other flowers, for

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I was not gonna propose milkweed, because, as you say, it's,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: it's not that great looking for a street

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: tree environment, but smaller lower uh flowers. Um could be compatible with just the, you know,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: for somewhat like the copies. You know the the height, maybe a little higher uh similar to the poppies, and they would grow just for one season, and I think they would reseed themselves. I'm hoping if they don't, we can reseed again next year. Um, But what do you guys think of that? I can? Um, We can ask Janine, perhaps

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: to um do a little bit. Do a little bit of research into the possibility to use. You know, wildflower um seeds uh other than milkweed.

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Barry Campion: I I kind of like the idea of what we did with the poppies where it's a larger area where it's like a bank.

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Barry Campion: Um, I think. Putting them in in those small tree wells um

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Barry Campion: it. They're pretty shady. They get some foot traffic, you know they struggle with the roots of the trees there. I I think we'd have better success and more impact,

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Barry Campion: you know. See that? Thanks. And And the larger areas. Yeah, we um. A couple of years ago we gorilla seeded a whole bunch of sycamore tree wells, and we had really mixed.

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Isabelle Duvivier: We have great Yeah, it it didn't it's compacted. It's super dry, and nobody takes care of it. Doesn't get watered, I think,

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Isabelle Duvivier: and I think we're a little over extended, so I think we could do it in the places where we're really focused like it goals. Gym: I think that'd be a great We're going to be there. We're going to be watering. Lance is gonna help us. Maybe the bid, and certainly we'll keep doing it at the farmers market, and if you want to try other stuff

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Isabelle Duvivier: theater, pain has wild flower seed, mixes it grow well in shade. We could do Clarky as under there, and milkweeds a little hard to go grow from seed, and it does it. It's. It's actually quite attractive when it's in blue, but it's not in bloom half the year.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So um! And and that would be way more beneficial than just about anything we did for monarchs. Um! So if we wanted to try that in one section or something. I I think that'd be a great idea, but I agree with Barry and

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Isabelle Duvivier: and and Robin that we should focus on large swath of areas where we know we're gonna spend more time, because otherwise it's just a waste of seeds. I also gorilla seeded a bunch of sand dune plants in Venice down over by Washington to see if anything would grow.

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Isabelle Duvivier: And again I had really mixed results. A few things grew. It's just that there's people are so abusive that they don't if they don't know the seedlings are there, they're just going to walk all over them and dogs p on them. And

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah, yeah, I think that at that might be the biggest problem, of course, is that there's a very liberal sprinkling of dog P on all of the street trees. Right? So yeah, and remember the picture he showed us. They had a nice little rail around the tree well, and the tree was also getting watered. Yeah, So all around it was really it was still lovely. I don't know if anybody saw that presentation. But here you would have just been

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: you would have died. What they're doing in Barcelona you can get. I can send you the Cfac uh zoom link if you want. It was so beautiful, really really impressive with it. It's so impressive. I think, Robin, I think you would have loved it too. Thank you for introducing us to your your K. Nine, friend, but he didn't want to be blamed. You know.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The drought, I think, might contribute to a problem with seeds, and particularly on sandy soil it's really hard to get stuff to grow. Yeah, I think that we do. I do want us to re-mulch those some more um treat wells because we haven't been back to do. I think it was such a heavy lift to free those trees from their concrete colors. Um, and we haven't been back in quite some time, so I think it. We should put that on. The list of something to do in our Vg. Group

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: is to get a major mulching of those three and um, maybe some watering as well. Okay, Great? Well, thank you for um guiding us through that folks. Um, So we'll keep our butterfly efforts on the Farmers' market and

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: on both gym and other larger plots, because it just feels like we're going to be more successful.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: It did. I put that down, too. Okay? Great. Thank you. Okay. So field trips in our future.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um: One of the things that I think that was a little difficult. Um when we went to represent ourselves with regard to the Penmark,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: beside the fact that it was eleven, thirty at night Um was that I think folks don't really know what a great greening project looks like.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And so this is another um,

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andreas: Andreas. Did you want to say something about the last subject matter?

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Great. So so. Um! Let's dive in. Who would like to go? Where does anyone have a suggestion with regard to visiting a city project? That is particularly um exemplary.

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andreas: That's why I raised my hand so a little while ago I heard about um uh micro forests.

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andreas: Um, that's um sort of by a Japanese guy called Miyaki, I think, and there is a uh local person. Um, what's her name? Katherine?

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andreas: Exactly. Um Who who did sort of following this concept, adapting it to Los Angeles things in Griffiths Park. And um, I thought so.

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andreas: It doesn't seem to need a lot of space, but it would be nice to really see it, and um maybe see whether we can find places in Venice to use it if it's appropriate.

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Barry Campion: Yeah, we've talked about doing it. Sorry. Oh, Barry's got our hand up

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Barry Campion: happen and our green spaces. I think that kind of encapsulates um both the success and you know some failure, and it's a it was a very large project. But um! I think that would be a great project for everybody to see.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, that's great. Um! Are there any streets? They? Oh, Deborah, go ahead.

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DEBORAH BIRD: Yeah, hi um. So I just ran into Charles Miller um the other night at the uh Katie Young Years event at the Lantern House, and he

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DEBORAH BIRD: um, we just got to talking, and he knows you all. And um! He said that

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DEBORAH BIRD: he would be willing to take us on a tour of the Green way any time, and gave me his contact information, and really wanted to do that with us. I think that would be cool, because he could really give us the successes in the

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah. And I think also, when we do these um tours, we should make them on days that people can attend so hopefully on the weekend, and then we will do a major push with the Bmc board,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: get on there and make a big announcement, and say, this is really important for city officials like you guys to visit in order to really understand what type of greeting is happening in other locations in this city.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um, Okay, So um does anybody. Oh, uh, Deborah uh bird, Do you still have your hand on? No, Isabel?

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Isabelle Duvivier: Oh, I was gonna say the same person. Catherine Patrick Gooney is uh working on the wildlife crossing the largest, the world's largest wildlife crossing, and we could do a trip over there. Uh, she. She asks for volunteers on Friday and Saturday mornings

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Isabelle Duvivier: we could go over there and um. We could also ask her to give us a tour of her micro for us. She's very passionate about it. She's also done a a presentation that's been recorded, so we could also share that link.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um! But we, Barry and I have talked to Noel, and I have talked to rap about doing a micro for forest in the golf course

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Isabelle Duvivier: on the part of the golf course that they recently turned the water off. On, and all the trees there died and the grass died. Everything died so we could try to do a little micro force there.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, Um, What about uh streetscape type, green projects that have happened around us? I um. I was actually making a suggestion in my email to all you guys about possibly um visiting the major Park that's next to so far.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: But what I really like to know about is who are the architects and designers that are doing some of the smaller greening projects that have happened in downtown Los Angeles, where there's trees being planted, there are raised beds, and all of these are smaller projects that we should be able to incorporate into the Venice landscape. Because Venice is very urban, it's very covered in concrete, and we need to try to break that up in some way. So

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Barry Campion: um, Barry, do you have a suggestion? Um. Well, there's a a project on Culver Boulevard, a stretch of its median, I think, east of Sepulchre. That was done quite recently, and that that's that's a pretty shabby uh,

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Barry Campion: you know, medium. But this one section has been Redone um, and it incorporates a lot of the things that you mentioned. It has some architectural elements using raised beds. How the pathways are laid out.

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Barry Campion: Um, you know the planting is is nice. It's kind. It's a little bit of a mixed back, some native, some not.

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Barry Campion: But it's a good-looking project, I mean, I was very impressed. I mean, you feel good when you drive by it and and um. It took me by surprise. So yeah, that I actually have noticed that because I live in the Marina, so occasionally we do drive Culver to get to Culver City.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um. Do you have any idea who built that project?

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Barry Campion: But yeah, the end is great to know. I mean, Culver City is its own entity. So, of course, that makes the bureaucracy a lot simpler. But um, yeah, to find out. Yeah, please do. I would love to, because if we could get the architect to walk us through that. Yeah, And who or could talk to us, come to our zoom?

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Oh, that would be great. Um! Go ahead uh Robin.

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Robin Murez: I was just gonna say the ply vista has, I think, beautifully. Um sculpted, you know. Landscaped uh little parklets all over. And um,

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Robin Murez: though, and then i'm going to point out that you know the little um

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Robin Murez: Venice Corner ballpark that I created. It has suffered because

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Robin Murez: someone stole the solar um timer for our sprinklers. Um,

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Robin Murez: yeah, about a year, little more than a year ago, and so I I pay for a landscaper to maintain it. Um, because again the city won't, and I pay for the insurance on that plot also. Um. But

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Robin Murez: okay, you know my landscaper has said, let's not put a new timer up until things calm down. So that's why there' been a couple of mounds that are um. But anyway, so ply vista, I think, is really nice, And then hopefully, we'll have a new city council person who will not

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Robin Murez: continue to let people live and die on our streets in squalor. And so maybe our solar timers won't get stolen.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, Great, those are. I was just gonna add two more. So ideas. One is that if you, Sarah, if you email Holly Harper at La City, dot org

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Isabelle Duvivier: she works for the urban design um group uh uh downtown, and I bet you she would if you just asked her to recommend her favorite streetscape. If that's what you're looking for, and maybe include what you want to see stormwater, collection, or whatever she would have. Probably some ideas.

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Isabelle Duvivier: And then the other recommendation is everybody's talking about this little school that was recently green, called Esperanza, and it's by the La River, and apparently it's just a really fantastic school. Greening Project

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Robin Murez: viewed the New Forest over there.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Well, we would want to go over there to work, but she's She's a little afraid of Mulch, which is, surprises me. I was there this morning. She doesn't really want us to mulch because she wants the children to be able to walk barefoot around the trees,

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Isabelle Duvivier: so she's afraid that the mulch is gonna put splinters in their feet. So anyway, i'm trying to. So I told her I would bring her a couple of bags of mulch because we work there. Um,

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Isabelle Duvivier: robin uh to go. We mulch there for her. But it was before it was done, and I would like this group to see it, but we like to work

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: right. We're all workaholics, so we would like to mulch there, and she's they're not ready for us to mulch so.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um with regard to what can be done. Um! One of the things that I think is kind of

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: grinding folks down is that things feel kind of hopeless right now. And if we really get the general public to understand that there's always great projects that are being um spearheaded uh, and that you can get involved in some way with such great projects that that

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: uh lists people's ability to become engaged in our civic uh activities. Um. So that's what I mean. I'd like to be able to take each of these scale trips to the board meetings. I'm gonna i'm gonna try to get

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: announcements done earlier in the evening, so that there is not such exhaustion.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um! And really advertise these uh trips as something that's, you know great to do on a Sunday. Bring your kids, learn about the trees in another neighborhood, and learn about what other neighborhoods have been doing to um Promote their green spaces.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um! So that's so. This go ahead is about. Did you just raise your hand? Oh, I meant to give you a thumbs up, but they don't have them serious. I I thought that was a great recommendation. Okay, So you gave me a high five instead.

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Robin Murez: I I I would also say, Excuse me. I I would also say that if you just um give them the time and date and that kind of thing to to Seema, and just try to get her to post it on social media. You know. They've got Instagram and Facebook and um,

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Robin Murez: you know. Maybe she's gotten better at doing that. So I would just really push for that, because that will get out to a lot of people who aren't necessarily tuned into the board meeting. Yeah, that's great.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So she's I mean, I have. I did communicate with her about this meeting, and i'm not sure she really got it out there. But we'll see. Um. Okay,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: so. Um! Are there any comments on other items? Not on the agenda that anyone would like to make? Because I think we need to adjourn? We're getting right towards one thirty, and I know everyone else has got a busy day, and lots of meetings coming up

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: any other comments

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: that looks like a No. Um announcements. I guess we are going to be working tomorrow from eight until ten at Gold's gym that corner, so please everybody. We look forward to seeing you um

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Isabelle Duvivier: bring this level.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I think we hoses. We might have to string up our hoses to to.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We might have to drag them for water just as a good option. Okay, thank you. Everyone. Um! And the meeting is now adjourned at one uh one, twenty-eight on October twenty first. So thanks for coming.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Thank you, Sarah. Bye, bye, Guys bye. Thank you, everybody. Hi, Barry, bye, bye,