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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So you're now, host, you can control the meeting.

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jim murez: Um! I had to change your name because you need to have your name there you're not. Your name is not people preserving public Places Committee. Um, You're the chair of the committee, and it means to have your name. So people know how to find you

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: where that was set up, so i'll have to see if you just fixed it. That's great. Whenever you log on

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jim murez: what your name is, you can change it yourself now if you want, There's three dots next to your name under the tab that where it says participants.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah.

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jim murez: And if you click on it you can see what you can do there.

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jim murez: If you want to share screens with. If you want anybody else to share screens, you have to click on share screen and say multiple people can share

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jim murez: and you have to create your own co-host If you want one and promote people to panelists as they

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jim murez: come in as attendees. Okay,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um. By the way we are when we voted on motion,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I can't hear you. Very well. You're not speaking very loud,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: so i'm glad that we have the opportunity to test this in my louder now. Okay, So you know it's always um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: a different slightly different setup. So um for me. So glad to know what works best. Um, Okay. So I was going to say, we're voting on a motion that Um. Perhaps you would have some suggestions on

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: on your agenda.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah,

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jim murez: let me look it up.

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jim murez: Okay, this is such a piece.

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jim murez: What item number is it.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um new business. Item: five

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jim murez: good luck.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay. So you're saying good luck because of the community being difficult,

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jim murez: or what you that A A motion like what you're suggesting would take the Council person to sign off on it on it to sign off on that

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jim murez: I wouldn't sign off on it if I was the Council person

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jim murez: you're asked. You're asking for for uh

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jim murez: exclusive use.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Bye,

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jim murez: Yeah, it's not going to happen. It would. That facility was designed and developed originally for seniors,

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jim murez: a place for seniors to congregate and and be able to have lunch and hang out um mostly during the daytime.

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jim murez: You're asking to take it over to have it be used as an office building, and it's for an organization that

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jim murez: doesn't necessarily

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jim murez: um

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jim murez: have any kind of five hundred and one c. Three, or any other information to go along with it, that it's a legitimate nonprofit. How is How is it going to be staffed? How is it you know. What are the hours of operation? Who's it going to be serving? And what way is it going to be serving those individuals? Is it going to be all inclusive or just your private group.

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jim murez: I mean, you know it. It's an open can. It works.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, those are all things that we can address

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and um,

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jim murez: I know for discussion on possible action. Okay, good. Well, at least you got that in there that it's for possible action, which means you can still modify your motion. Um! I I I think that you know you. You need to first get all of the various historic element people,

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jim murez: whether it's your group, or a canals group, or some other group that's trying to do a railroad car, whoever it is, get everybody on board to participate.

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jim murez: And and Then you know, if this is the location that everyone's going to agree to um,

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jim murez: then go forward with it. I mean, you know, I think you're putting the cart. Wait before the horse.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay? Well, it's actually a really old horse, because it was

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: uh

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Rosenthal had promised it to the Historical Society, which is a five hundred and one, C three when he was in office, and then it only became available after he was no longer in office, and then bomb and didn't follow through on it. But but the issue really goes back to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know who's going to be using it? And how are they going to be using it

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: resource center. So would we really be open for the community. But yeah, I mean the the problems that I see are that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: the person who heads up the historical to center. A Historical society is inept, and the people who have the Heritage Museum are inept and nasty.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: And so you know, a big part of my wanting to form this Dmc committee was to try to get everybody to get together, to just preserve Venice history and stop their bickering. And there's this Neighborhood Council is not going to be the one responsible for the I mean for the location

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: right? So in my mind that's great. If your meeting is supposed to start now,

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jim murez: and I believe you have other attendees now at the meeting ready to go.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, I don't see them.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: How would I?

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jim murez: No, I guess not. Well, you click on participants down at the bottom of your screen, and then there's two, two tabs, one says, participants. The other one says, attendees

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: right, and it's a zero attendees right now. So I guess you, I mean, you know, give everybody some time to participate. But,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: by the way. You might want to know that Scott Mayor is just apparently out of the hospital. I didn't want to say it in your big group event, But this is all being recorded. So this is public information. I don't think you should be talking about it here, either.

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jim murez: But yeah, I was aware of that?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um. Just want to send out good thoughts.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: And Uh: okay. So yeah, the thing, the rate the issues you raise are also ones that I have thought about, and I guess we'll just see how we might be able to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: address them, because the objective is a good one. It's just how to get things done.

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jim murez: Yeah. Well,

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jim murez: I hear you.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay. And

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: by the way, that fire, you know, it's almost right across from my house. Yeah, I heard about that that was terrible. Oh, my God! Oh, my God! It was the biggest fire I've ever seen in my life! I've never, I mean, and I burned down. It's all one hundred year old dry wood.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Well, my house is what burns

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: no what burned with brand new construction. Um!

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: And it it was under construction, and that, you know, uh, presumably homeless. There was somebody started a little campfire in the garage under construction of the house under construction, and in moments it blew up into a huge rape, you know, raging

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um fire and their response time from I tried to get through to nine hundred and eleven could not get an answer from them. Um talking So Vera is in the attendee list. Why, don't you go ahead and start your meeting. We can talk about this some other day.

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jim murez: I'm all well aware of everything you've said. By the way,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um hi, Brian, can you hear

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jim murez: you? You have to promote him to panelists.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: And I don't know how to do that. You go to attendees. Yeah, hover over Brian, and when you do it's gonna create three little docs. And it says, you know, promote to panelists

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and ask to unmute

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So, Brian, you should be that able to. Oh, you're on there twice.

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Brian Silveira: So now he's listed twice. Something wrong with that. No, no, I'm. I'm calling in on my phone and my computer, the the computer audio uh my microphone is having a problem. So I've been using the audio on my phone and the video on my computer.

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jim murez: Um, I think that that's going to cause a pro. Well, I guess as long as you're a panelist i'm not sure

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jim murez: before, because

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jim murez: I don't know how you sync the two. But okay, I don't care whatever.

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Brian Silveira: Yes, if it is your problem, I could just do the video and the audio on my phone uh and shut off my computer.

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jim murez: It becomes a problem when it's different People's turns to speak or something. I don't.

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Brian Silveira: Okay?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: yeah, That's me

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: And to call back to you

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jim murez: that he's online.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, Okay, you have to watch your attendee list. Not your panelists list.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Hi, Robin,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: All that I can make the meeting at this time. Hopefully, time you sent a text this morning thing that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: she may be like,

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jim murez: and how many people are in you on your uh committee. You can't start a meeting until you have enough,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: right. We do

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: oh, five,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and if you want to be accounted, and then we even have uh four. But we have a quorum with the three of that.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So uh, i'll

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: call the meeting to order or take role first, which one goes first,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: whatever i'll call the meeting. Oh, well, uh, Brian, are you here?

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Brian Silveira: I am.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, you here.

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betsygoldman: I'm here.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: And

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jim murez: for now at least, Jim, you're here right?

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jim murez: Okay, You do that by clicking on the little arrow that's to the right of on the right side of the share screen. Icon down at the bottom.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, Thank you?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay. So the meeting is call to order at ten O. Six Am.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: And um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Let's see review comment and adopt minutes from prior meetings. So

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: uh

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: the minutes were posted.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: And

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: video format audio Video:

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, Is everybody fine with that?

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betsygoldman: Yes,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I think that it suffices for an adoption of minutes. I think that actually, if

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: if any, if either of you could help by jotting down some notes um, we might be,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: it might be a good idea. I think they're talking about that. We actually do have to also submit minutes that are in writing.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So would either of you be able to do that just

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: maybe jot down next to the agenda any

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: any additional information we should put in as minutes for this meeting.

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betsygoldman: I'll give it a try,

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betsygoldman: even though I can't read my own handwriting.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Uh, and how can I? The only picture up here?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, Then uh public comment. Is there anyone from the public here at this time. Who would like to comment:

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I don't see that we have any public here,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: but we did properly post

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: their meeting. It's on the

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: under the V and C.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: And we need to go. Oh, we've got somebody here uh Nathan, did you? If you would like to raise your hand

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: here, i'll just go ahead and allow you to talk. Did you want to speak

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Do you have any public comment to make?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, i'm doing an ask to unmute and don't see the response from that. But, Nathan, if you want to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: uh speak, go ahead and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: unmute,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and just tell us who you are. If you have any particular interest in this, we would love to know and have you participate.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um and otherwise we'll go on

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: now. Um all business,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: so I want to welcome Scott Mayor to our committee again. But unfortunately again, he's not able to join us um for health reasons. So let's all put out

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: the best of good to you to Scott for um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: feeling well as soon as possible.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um! And

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: he did give me some feedback directly, though on our agenda. So

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: when we get to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: those points I will just mention

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um. Okay. Then

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: discussing

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: update on our previous motions the pagodas and the historic parklet motion.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I don't know if anybody else has any update on those.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I do not. I was out of the country, I think, as you all know, for

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: since pretty much the last meeting, and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: so I haven't been able to follow through on anything, though i'm not sure that we at this point need to be doing anything in particular, or can do anything

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: any of you. Have any thoughts on the pagodas or the historic park. Let's motion

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not at the moment,

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Brian Silveira: not from from me.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I think we should

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: just probably try to stay on top of these things, you know, Pastor Um, but both of those are sort of wreck and parks and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and then whomever else in the city that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: try to be sure that things happen properly.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, Okay, Then Let's update on our Community Improvement Project applications that we submitted um, and the last

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: we have been invited to um resubmit to complete to get some of the details flushed out that we still need. So regarding that regarding the colonnade, whether it be the

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Brian let you and I try to continue to get in touch with

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Brian Silveira: Mhm,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um. So yeah, um like. If you could reach out again to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, that'd be great. And you know again, it sounds like

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I think if we can just keep pursuing this.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: We will have the best chance of helping to protect that those public

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um, you know. Amazing icon. But you know

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: everything is complicated when dealing with the city, so so the best we can do to just keep it moving forward, I think, is what we need to do, and so that means continuing to be in touch with the property owners. Um! Maybe we can get like a a joint meeting between them at some point in the next few months to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: to focus on how we might proceed with this. But yeah, the one guy who owns that, you know Brian, who owns that.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um! What was the bank building on the corner?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: he's he's got the columns that needs the correct capitals, so that seems like kind of the

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um. So perhaps we can just offer our assistance, and hopefully, he will be supportive of

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um of that, and we can, you know, get this started

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: in some capacity.

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Brian Silveira: Yeah.

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Brian Silveira: And And I wanted to ask you. So you you have the multiple.

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Brian Silveira: Uh. So what when I do speak to them? What's the easiest way to describe what needs to happen?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I I think I heard you say that we have the mold, and that's not correct. We don't have a mold

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um. We need to get a mold made, and then we need to get a capital cast in that mold um. So unless,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: talking to neighbors, we could still maybe find a mold

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: But it sounds like any mold that did exist in the past have

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: either disappeared or disintegrated. So that's why you know. What we need to do is have a mold made, and then have a casting made, but if he's

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: game to do it, then he would be a good start, and you know, perhaps he

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: he would also contribute financially to some extent. I mean, it's

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: uh icon. And and I think, if you know, we could like, get the dialogue started with him and have him know that we want others to also participate? Then Um, I think that would be the objective. Does that sound good?

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Brian Silveira: Yeah, yeah,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know, It's kind of. I think we need to get the momentum going, and his is kind of the the easiest obvious one.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So yeah, so that would be great. Um:

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah. So that's what i'm thinking about that.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: And yeah, And if you can,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: if you want to set it up as a meeting, you know with us to mate with him.

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Brian Silveira: That's what I

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Brian Silveira: It's just the three of us sit down.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, that's great. We can be a task force on dealing with that. Um and Betsy, I know you've got some of the documents regarding it, and we posted some so

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: as always any in and all Input that you have will be fabulous if you come across all pictures of even that corner. That would be great.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, you know where it had the correct capital.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, Yeah, and if it's better, Brian, to talk to him solo, do that. But i'm also

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know there was even what recently a huge event held there on. What did they call that Windward Plaza for

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: a designer? You guys know what i'm talking about. Um!

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I i'm just bringing it up, because

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: The reason that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: You know it's unique, and having its historic architecture is essential to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: get it. Continuing to have it have a unique character.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know, that's kind of thing that I would try to emphasize, I guess, with property owners who care about their the value of their real estate. Maybe we, you know, put it to them in financial terms. It's like, if you want it, to continue to be a special place that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know draws your tenants and draws the public. We need it to be

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: restored, and we need it to be fabulous.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So you know, even just somehow. I'm just drawing that out there. You

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I know know this, but just wanna say it again,

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Brian Silveira: sure. And and I think that they're all gonna want to know in financial terms, What's that gonna cost me?

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Brian Silveira: That's gonna That's gonna be the big question. So I think you know, if we're prepared. If we come to them

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Brian Silveira: with just an idea, it it may not stick that, you know. If we figure out

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Brian Silveira: Okay, well, you know, here is what it's gonna cost to make the mold. Here's what it's gonna, you know, cost roughly to to to put the capital back on on all of your columns. Uh, you know. Here's why it's a worthwhile contribution. I think

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Brian Silveira: I think that's a better approach. But we we could talk about

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: right well. But just regarding that. If you look back to proposals that we submitted again, we got kind of total bargain rate by you know a friend of my friend Milani, who's in the community in Venice? Um of it costing five thousand dollars to make the mold and five thousand dollars to cast.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I think the first capital um again. If it's spread out. If a few of the property owners will join in, then we can spread out the cost of

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: casting that capital among

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: various people, and perhaps

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: also get funding from the city, though that's so difficult. Um, So

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: that's kind of those are the figures, and we do have it. Um itemized in those proposals, so you could have,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know we could bring. Give those proposals to him and explain that will also how those costs can be shared. Um, but for a property owner for that property owner, it seems like those costs in my mind would be nominal.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, for you know what that property is,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and how wonderful this would be, and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and i'm sure we could do some great publicity, you know, and and invite, like the chamber to do so as well to promote. You know the restoration of the colonnade, and so, if he's

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: going to be the first to start it, you know what

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: let's make. Let's make a big splash with that. So whatever could also appeal to him.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, as far as

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: getting the ball rolling.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I think also somebody that we should follow up with who I had spoken to is Mark. So

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: who um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: land down?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Probably down the block, and he had said to me, Get back to him after the summer

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: that you know, going through Covid with a rough season for

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: uh the hotel that they also own. So now we are through the summer. So I think

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know, I think First, if you could talk with can you think of what is his name? The

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Brian Silveira: that corner property on it?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, So it's. Maybe. First we can meet with Jose, and then, you know, circle back with um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: uh mark Socal, and then also Tony Bill, and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: mo mona um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: know. So those are the ones who so far I've been in touch with those three.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: And yeah, I think you know, it would be awesome if Jose could

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: go ahead,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: maybe get the ball rolling. And

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Brian Silveira: yeah, i'll uh, i'll set it up. Is is the Winston House Building, also part of that original colonnade

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Brian Silveira: where where Danny's was.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um,

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Brian Silveira: because they have a they have a common name.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: yeah, there is is still in good shape.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, absolutely.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Uh, yeah, no. And there are some good columns with capital still there.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Uh, It's just that some of them aren't

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: or missing capitals or columns, or whatever. So Yeah. Um, yeah. So everybody who would be supportive. So

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: we should bring everybody together. And and just yeah, get some momentum behind

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: preserving our public places.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Uh, specifically those fabulous icon.

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Brian Silveira: Okay,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, Do you know the folks who on the Winston house. Now, is that why you mentioned

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Brian Silveira: Yeah, it's well, it's Anne Everest,

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Brian Silveira: you know.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, Yeah. And I've never spoken with her. Um.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: doesn't she own. More than that, I think

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Brian Silveira: she owns quite a bit. I don't know about.

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Brian Silveira: Do you mean more than that on winward, or just more than that. And then

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: uh could be both, you know. I mean anybody who cares about Ben? If what did she

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Does she control it for with the family.

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Brian Silveira: Yeah, she is in charge of our state.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um: yeah. So he was so fabulously,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: supportive of

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: of Venice, of, you know, creating those magnificent murals on his building. And um Yeah. So I've never met her. I'd love to. I'd love to see if we can,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Get a meeting with her, and see, you know, if if again, the more who are supportive, who have a

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: direct

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: association with

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: that architecture is great, she may help to be persuasive of the others, who are,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know, not yet stepping up.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So. Yeah, that would be great if you can get in touch with her, and maybe we could meet with her and and meet with Jose. And and you know,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, tell them of

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: the objective and ask them their suggestions. And yeah, see how we can get this going

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betsygoldman: pertinent to our conversation. But you might want to know, anyway, uh one of the areas really affected by one of the fires this year was weed California,

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betsygoldman: and that's where Rip Crack is from.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Oh, rip, crunk um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: really Well, he I know I've seen his address listed as um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: uh

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: the town across from the Albany carousel that I worked on um.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: It's it. It starts with the C. It's where there's a university That's interesting. Yeah, He:

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, I mean. And he, I think, is absolutely, You know,

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betsygoldman: I just Won't: Be so. Okay,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: yeah, or that is, property is Um:

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: that is, you know, tangential to dealing with the capitals. But it's certainly part of

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: preserving public places where I mean his murals are on

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: again. They're on private buildings. But yeah, to whatever extent we can help to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: keep him in the loop and keep his murals.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um in good

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: condition. And yeah, um, And maybe just to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: If if you're able to like, get a contact for him and reach out to him. And just tell him that our committee exists. Maybe that's a good thing. Um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: yeah, and you know, and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: probably has a contact for him.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So perhaps when we

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um talk with her we could ask her for the contact. But

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: i'm quite sure that um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: uh typ on Hoffman does. But I know that he's not always very

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So yeah, so and might be a better source to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: get word to Rip that we're thinking of him and hope that he's Okay, um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: And we'll do everything that this committee is able to further his

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um. Wonderful artwork

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: uh Dennis.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, So then um.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Anything else on that regarding the colonnade.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: No? Okay. So then I

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um discuss the pocket site uh way, finding app proposal that we had submitted, and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I had an experience regarding that, having just traveled in Europe, and finding that, you know, wanting to find my way and wanting to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: find information about cool site, and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: it brought me back to the question That kind of has been covering over this all along is,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: how is how is it best to create

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: that information? To have it be accessible to the public? To anybody who wants it.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Is it best that we do this by creating

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: an app that you know has Qr. Codes around, and you have to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um, you know. You see the Qr code, and then you open that up and you open the app, and and you can

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: then travel about, Or is it, you know, when I was traveling in European cities where there is just so much everywhere.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: It almost felt like it was going to be a hassle to have to open an app

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: when I was some place.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So I think we're back to looking at

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um, if that I have a neighbor here who

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: nose tech stuff, and it's also

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: very much into

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: our the mission of this committee, and and even specifically that. And he had said to me, Well, gee! Maybe we can do it just through Gps without it being a separate app. So

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know, I guess

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: that's something we need to continue to evaluate. And so, if

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: either of you have thoughts, or it can reach out to others and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: look into You know what's the best way to do this?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: let's still see. I think it's.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I think everybody feels like It's a great concept to be able to move about

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and find out information and find you know your whereabouts. Um, and the historic stories, you know bring them to light, but how that should be created, I think it's also because technology keeps improving so rapidly that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: what may be the best way today might not have existed, you know,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: six months ago. So,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: anyway, that's what I want to raise regarding that. And

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: if you know anybody. You can also

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: ask about that regarding. Uh, please do. That's

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: kind of keep exploring it.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um! And then the final one about the site markers there to. Actually, I want to share with the committee um some site markers that I saw when I was traveling. Um!

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I saw, you know, signage here and there that would give

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um images and information about historic places. You know. The problem we encountered with getting funding from the Dnc. Was, they said, Well, but first of all, they want us to identify specifically which site markers would go on.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: You know

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: we can and should do. And actually we have that preliminary list

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: that you pulled up Betsy of, and it's posted on our side of um. The

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: nationally registered

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: sites. But you know, I think that we all feel like

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: that is

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: really barely

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: a list of what's interesting, and that people would want or should know about Venice.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um! There's so many more places that would be

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: wonderful and fascinating to identify and and inform people of. So regarding the site markers again, maybe it's something that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: we should do, as perhaps

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: whatever funding we can get for the

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: public buildings or the public sites. We do that through the B. And C. If they are currently, privately owned buildings again,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know we're going to have an issue with

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: getting it through

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: the Bnc. Or some of the people in the Dmc. Who raise that as an issue. I'm not sure it's a real issue.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um historic sites if they're nationally registered, even if they're on

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: privately owned buildings. I think you know. Perhaps we need to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: prepare that kind of legal argument for why it is justified that there be

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: publicly funded historic markers.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, but you know, so we need to maybe be prepared with that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um defense. But

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: beyond that I feel like there's so many other places that would be great to identify. So one design of historic marker that I saw, and I took pictures of some that there were these ceramic tiles that were just so.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: so well

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: it made there, you know just

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: They had both a photograph of the site

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and text regarding it, and I think a Qr code on there, which is all the stuff that's also on the

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: site markers that I've done on my sculptures around Dennis that that we submitted with our proposal

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: mine. We're done in stainless, which is

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: actually my friend who did them for us just passed away. So it had been. He was giving us like

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: he was offering to do it basically for free.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: But now that option doesn't exist, I don't know if somebody else will take on his business, and we can try to follow up on that. Um. But these ceramic ones were really beautiful, and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: so I just thought that it might be another option we could look into, and it occurred to me that Judy Bacca has had that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um facility in her

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: space. There at Spark, she has had the ability to create ceramic tiles that have images on them. Um, I think photographic images on them, so

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: that might be something we could um ask her about. And again, I you know

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I feel like

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: her entity being in our

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: fabulous, huge historic building should be something that is available for public

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: use. And here is a project at least that would be great that maybe this project they could carry out, and would be a great deed for them to do for the community. So

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know, as with everything i'd love to not be the only one. We're the one to ask her this.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um. So if we, if either of you, if we think of somebody else who might be a good person to contact Judy. Regarding this, I would be very enthusiastic

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: for that. But

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: if not, maybe it's something that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: then I can do. You know if if you guys like that idea Also, again, i'll share pictures of what those were with you.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Any thoughts on any of that?

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betsygoldman: No. But I did Google Rip Cronk, and I found an article that I wrote for the Argonaut about his murals, and it says that

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betsygoldman: he lives six hundred miles from Venice and weed California.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay,

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betsygoldman: So it does live in weed.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah. Well, again, I know It's I've read that it was

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: stated elsewhere. I think he has horses and stuff, so that's very likely, and weeds

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um, because that was natural space. It was listed elsewhere that his his address was that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: that It's right across from Albany, Oregon.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um! But again, and Everest might be our best lead to reach

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betsygoldman: him, unless you have other suggestions. Maybe somebody through the chamber

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betsygoldman: so it could be the same one,

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betsygoldman: the same one meaning the same play. It's weed,

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betsygoldman: it says, Well, Rip lives six hundred miles from Venice and meet California near the Oregon border.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Right well, Albany, Oregon, you'll see, is

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: It's a a couple of hours from the border, but I mean one could say that's near the border

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again. I think that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I know I saw it listed that he was in that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: that town. It is a town it

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: so, but he may have land and weed, and he may also, or somehow maybe somebody

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know. I don't know. I don't know what this is, what he told me. Okay. So okay, that's good. I mean, whatever. If if you can continue to find his contact, that would be great.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, Okay. And anything. Do you guys have any feedback about the site markers, or i'll share those

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: images

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: or about contacting Judy Baker.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Or Yeah. Okay. So then we will. It's hard having sort of a their bones committee right now. But i'm glad that you both are

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: are here. Um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: because you know we, if we don't have a core, and we can't do anything. Okay, let's move on to um. Well, do we have any public comment that we have any public here today? Now, because that person. Nathan, is no longer at our meeting.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: so we don't have any committee discussion. We've asked, or motions to go forward with those things. We'll just keep working on what we're doing as we

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: so new business.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um!

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So what came up was

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: looking at the um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: agenda of the Commissioners

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: for the department of a second part. I saw that they were voting uh last month, I guess on

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: whether or not they would extend the lease to. I think it's called the Circle Program a friend. Do you know the name of it? That it's that group that has been

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um leasing the

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: clubhouse otherwise had been the senior center by Westminster Park at a dog park.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So what came out? So when I saw that on the agenda, I thought,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I know that with. You know something that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um Historical Society always said has been promised to them. And here, you know, i'm, seeing that Reckon Parks is voting whether or not to extend the lease that that organization has on that property. So I went ahead and piped up in public comment, and just gave that information, and said.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: You know that I know that that site had always

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: it had been promised by Uh Councillor person, Rosen Doll, to be the home for the Venice Historical Society

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: uh

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: resource center archives, whatever it would be called um, and that apparently

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: it wasn't available. Couldn't be done before he was no longer in office, and has since not been done, and I know that it's something that the Historical Society has been

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: very eager to have a home for it's

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: archives. So

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: when Betsy you were. You are a past president of the Historical Society, right?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So please interject anything at any point. So, anyway, I spoke at that meeting of Recon Park, and also Sonya, did I?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I think I got in touch with Sonya, and I think I got in touch with you, Betsy. Um, and I, and I think Sonya tried to get in touch with Jill, who is the current president of the Historical Society, but I think Jill Wasn't available

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um. But anyway, Sony and I both made comments

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: informing them that that promise had been made, and that this local society,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know it would be great for the community to be able to utilize that space and have a home for our Dennis Historic?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay. And

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: what happened at that meeting was that it was described by staff of wreck and parks, and it the staff is actually um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: the same people that we've met with regarding the pagodas. Um, Her name is Sonya.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: She has a hyphenated last name. So, anyway, she reported on it to the Commissioners, and she said in her report that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: it has been,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: uh, barely utilized by that organization,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: but and that they were asking to extend their least only until I think, she said

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: end of December or January,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and that they will be getting a new site

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: thereafter.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: The program is, I think, orchestrated by the Mayor's office, and my understanding is, it's

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: It's like a

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: maybe a an alternative to people reaching the lapd when there is an issue having to do with

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: uh,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Jack,

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I think

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I think it's that's what it is so, or mental health

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: or both.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So, anyway, she was very clear in saying that it is both been fairly utilized, and that they don't need it past January, so I thought, Oh, well, gee! Maybe we should

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: try to get a motion passed from the Bnc. To

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: get that um. You know there are very few publicly owned properties in Venice, and that one

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: has been identified as one that would serve the needs of um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know, being a historic resource center

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um. So perhaps our committee, caring about preserving public places should try to put in

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know emotion to see if that can't be done.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So that's the background on on where the motion comes from.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and make some changes to it.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um!

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: And I asked, and I actually just asked

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Jim Meres about his comment. He didn't read it in detail or no.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: This information he made a few comments that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: i'll just make because they've gone through my head, too.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I think the first one is what would be the entity that this

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: it gets. The new leads.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um. And

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: so there the question is

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: okay. It should be a five o one, C, three. I don't think it can be the Venice Neighborhood Council,

551
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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and there are a couple of five O. One, C. Three S. Dealing with Venice history, and I mentioned that in the motion

552
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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: there's the Historic Society, and there is the Heritage Association Heritage Association. Their mission is to create

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: their own like gallery space

554
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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: by building a

555
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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: restoring the trolley car in Centennial Park. So they've never said that they wanted a historic,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: a separate historic resource center. And again, this is exactly what the Historical Society has wanted.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I think that.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um there the question is, is the historic society.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Jill has always said to me that she does not want to do anything political.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I mean to me this is

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: it's a city property, so I

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I I don't know that you call it political. But if you want to get um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: something done, you have to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: work through

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betsygoldman: the city government, so I guess she considers that political

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: right.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I just don't know that she's capable of

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: of doing this. So my brother then also said, And do they have funding? Do they have resources? Could they staff it? Who would this be open to all the basic questions that you know, I think are obvious?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um!

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: He brought up, and and, you know, go through my head, too.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: And what I said to him is,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I really wanted to form this committee, because

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I think we need to preserve Venice's history, and that they, these organizations, these private organizations that exist

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: our

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: not terribly competent in carrying out what their missions are, which are different from this committee. But

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I really want to see if we can help bring everybody together. And then there, you know, individuals who have done fabulous work in Venice. History like Jeffrey Stanton,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and he has archives and materials. And um, or you know the books that um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Arnold Springer wrote, compiled those untold are currently in the possession. They were donated, I guess, to the Historical Society and Haven't seen the light of day, and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know, I just think that there is a tremendous amount of um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: inaction that can cause Venice history to be destroyed,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and we know that a fire already caused a lot of materials to be destroyed, and i'm told that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know things are not in safe places now, and there's no way for the public to access anything. So It seems to me that we need.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: You know that that we should have a space so that the public could learn about our preserving our public places. And

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: okay, I've said enough. Do you guys have any input What do you think about putting this motion forward? What

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: changes should we make to this motion? What what do you think about doing this?

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betsygoldman: I almost think that a separate entity might be a good idea.

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betsygoldman: I don't know if Jill would give up

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betsygoldman: the archives. I mean, you know she's because she wasn't the one finding the space.

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betsygoldman: Um, I I just don't know how she would react.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So the question is, should we try to go forth with this as being

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: our independent?

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betsygoldman: You know entity, that we have no financial resources?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: No, and we are not a separate five hundred and one, c. Three.

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betsygoldman: I shouldn't have any connection to the Venice Neighborhood Council, either.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Well, no; it's just that the motion

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: should. Would.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I think it's great for the motion to come from the Venice Neighborhood Council

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: to you

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: to try to get access to using that building. So the other thing, of course, that Jim said, is um, you know the the Bnc. As a whole or the community could also question, Why should

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: any one entity get use of that building. It has been the senior center, and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I'm. Wondering if either of you know anything more of the history of the use of that building. Sonya refers to it as the clubhouse.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um!

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Was it something prior to being a senior center? Was it always a senior center?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, you know.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Is there a need now for a senior center? Is there going to be I I I did hear that.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Helen Fallon told me that she heard mentioned from

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: in the homeless committee meeting that.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Uh, there are people who think that it would

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: that it should be an aa um meeting which is ridiculous.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Well, and go on to say Why, that's it. Because you said it to me. But let's be clear,

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betsygoldman: because the whole building should not be allocated

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betsygoldman: for that one purpose

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betsygoldman: a meetings that are held in churches and um

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betsygoldman: in different buildings.

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betsygoldman: They shouldn't

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betsygoldman: have just that one building. It's it's too valuable as a community resource.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I think it's also what you're bringing up is that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: a a committee meetings Don't have to have a physical,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: You know, access to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: specific materials that need to be there day in, day out, Right? They don't

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: They They're just the groups of people I mean. I think they do a meetings on the beach. You don't have to have

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: resources that you need to keep in it,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know, in any number of

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: places. So yeah, it seems ridiculous to dedicate a building to something that doesn't need a building. It needs just to have places where they can gather

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: so you know. But I think that that's the kind of thing that those are questions that could come up that we do need to be able to address like. Let's be fair about this. Who should get use of

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: a public building in Venice. Now,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know, is there

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: it, you know, Is there are there others who should

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: who would have a

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: a need that would serve the community

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and ha, And then, you know, Okay. So let's identify how exactly this would

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: function and how it would be serving the community. You know

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: it's kind of like when I put together the proposal for reckon parks for the carousel, I identified hours of operation and budget, and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know the

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: communities that would be served. And

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know, maybe we need to do that, at least in an abbreviated version.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Given a rundown of Um! It's pretty quick and easy to do

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: an outline that identifies all the

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: reasons and needs that this building would serve.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Uh Brian, You have any thoughts on it.

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Brian Silveira: Um!

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Brian Silveira: Well, I you know I not very close to this one, so I I try not to insert my opinion. I'd rather just facilitate, I will say if if their lease is up, it seems like there's an opportunity. I do. Do you have any idea whether or not they'll be trying to renew that leads.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, it was. It was really clearly stated that they will definitely not be trying to renew that least.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um go in. It was not mentioned, and I guess you know, reckon par with the entity that controls that lease to some extent

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and bonding will not be in office.

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Brian Silveira: Sure. Yeah. Well, I I think you know Betsy is correct. You're both correct that, you know. If if there is a a nonprofit out there, a five hundred and one c.

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Brian Silveira: That has a use

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Brian Silveira: that we think. Um. You know what we'll serve Venice, and one that is also also interested in tying in the history of the building or preserving the history of the building. Then I think the best that we could do is to seek them out and try and facilitate.

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Brian Silveira: I I don't know that we can directly do anything with wreck and parks or the city,

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betsygoldman: and that group would be the Venice Historical Society if they um get their status back.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So how how do we proceed? I mean, should we?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I'm thinking that maybe

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: we could

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: go ahead with kind of this draft motion, suggesting that we blush it out further, though with giving

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: details as to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: who and what and when, where

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: the facility would be used,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and that We also need to be in touch with

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: the Historical Society.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: My Sonya is vice president of it, and she had told me that she, you know she's all in favor of this, and, as I said, she spoke at Reven Park.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: but you know the

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I guess Historical Society is kind of run by

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Jill. Who

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: though I think she was apprised of this

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: last month, or whenever it came on to reckon Parks website, I haven't heard that she has addressed it at all. Oh, I think I also spoke with another member of the Historical Society about it. Uh, Denise.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, she's on also on its board, so I mean maybe

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: we could try to talk with more people on the

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It's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a It's A. It's a it's a it's a

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and have them.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I'll bring it up. Then to Jill. Perhaps that's a way to do it. I don't feel like it should come from

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: me, or you know an outsider.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um!

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Just because of how

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: the reaction I've seen You'll have to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: two things that come from anyone besides her

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um, and certainly anybody who's not on her board. So

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: what do you think? Maybe we like flesh this out more, and then try to have

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: some of those people. I I hear there's a Board Member India who's supposed to be quite good, and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and there's Sonya. And

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: do you know some of the other current members of that board.

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betsygoldman: I don't, but I I will help you um

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betsygoldman: figure out or identify reasons

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betsygoldman: that the Historical Society should get the building,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know. And actually, Brian, something to clarify something you said. I'm not sure it's that that building is

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: that we're what that we're preserving that

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betsygoldman: smart building. I don't know the history of that building,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I mean. I guess we should find it out. But i'm thinking more that to have a historic resource center.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um! That he gave it. That name which I think is excellent. Um is Pres is is how

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know we would be preserving public places is through preserving the information and knowledge and sharing it

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and not losing it.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: And I think that comes out. I'm just going to raise this, because I think that still comes within the scope of what our mission is of this committee.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know again to be clear on that.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, so

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: it you know it. And actually, what's going through my head it has I belong to is

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: whomever is going to be the next

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: uh

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Council person

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: would presumably also have

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: uh

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: a big say in what happens. And I was just thinking that if we could get this motion in

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: that it would probably be there before anybody else's

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know. I know Tracy Park well,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and could

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: just bring it to her attention without it being a formal motion.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I have no idea. I mean Aaron Darling probably wants to make that some sort of

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: housing,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know, Center,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and I don't know that he cares at all about

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: He's Derby.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Then it's history,

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betsygoldman: Robin, that just that, you know, we still have the very Davis center, and that would be ideal for aa meetings.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, Well, that I think it has. You know it's being reopened. It looks like it was

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: well. And then you know, the other thing is, the the old jailhouse is

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: huge and underutilized. And you know this is Hispanic heritage month. I think something like that, and that's what Spark is supposed to be all about, and I have not seen that they are having any kind of event for the public

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: about

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: the work they do about his his Hispanic heritage, or anything. And here it is even Hispanic heritage month. So you know, that's

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I feel like, you know, the very first meeting when we had a lot of topics,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: a lot of. You know, various people in the community

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: came out

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: complaining.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: They've not shown their faces since, and they've not done anything constructive,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: a lot of people I speak to are in total agreement that that huge historic building

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: should be

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: able to be utilized by the community

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: in addition to the wonderful work that spark does.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: But and it the wonderful work that Spark does should be

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: something that the community is invited to be

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: aware of. It used to be. They used to do

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: things

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: so anyway, you know it's

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: so. How do we go forth with this? Should we

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: try to?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: We work um this motion before we present it to the Vnc Board,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: maybe

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: reconvene after we've had a chance to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: try to work it. See how the Historical Society will react to it.

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Brian Silveira: Yeah, that that would be my voters to table it and then reach out to the Historical Society.

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betsygoldman: We still have to figure out in writing

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betsygoldman: how we're going to propose

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betsygoldman: the idea.

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betsygoldman: We have to have something in writing

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: right? So

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: what is in writing right now? I mean, I how we're going to propose the idea to Historical Society, or to the Vnc. Board. What do you say to the Historical Society?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I'm thinking that we shouldn't have it in writing to that we should be talking to those other committee members and ask them how they think it's best presented,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and and tell them that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: uh,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: our committee would gladly

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: join with them to bring it to the V. And C. Board.

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betsygoldman: I just like having things in writing as a proposal

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: that's exactly what we'll turn Ge off.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: As you said, I think Joe wants to be the one who has the idea.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So if we have it, be that um,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: the committee members of hers bring it up, and that then

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: she then maybe

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: approaches us.

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betsygoldman: That would be better than us approaching her. But why would she approach us when she can go directly to reckon Parks.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I don't think she can as effectively go directly to recon Park.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: That's your opinion right, I mean. And that's fine. If she wants to do that, then we can just um

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: if she wants to do that that, then then our committee can still pass this motion to support it.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I think we need to feel out, find out what she wants to do. And then this committee

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: again,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: additional weight as the way to the whole community, not just her organization.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So if her organization wants to contact record parts

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: for Cd. Eleven,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: they should. And then

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: our committee can be supportive of that, and and could put forth a motion asking the Dnc Board to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: to be supportive of it.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: See what I'm. Saying

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betsygoldman: I do. But I think if you don't put a proposal in writing. You're losing control.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I don't think it matters who has control. I think it matters that it gets done. I don't know I I I just don't.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I don't know, Brian, You have any thoughts on this? I mean the problem. I think that Betsy and I are aware of. Is it

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: the leadership of the Historical Society is

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Brian Silveira: so, you know. I I think it sounds like we all agree on what

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Brian Silveira: needs to be done. It's just a question of how best to do it,

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Brian Silveira: or how it how it most effectively to do it. And you know, i'm not sure, because it Yeah, Betsy has the relationships with the Historical Society.

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Brian Silveira: Um,

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Brian Silveira: I don't think a a motion could hurt uh, but then the motion needs to be pretty broad.

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Brian Silveira: Um,

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Brian Silveira: if you know, if we want to put forth the motion. Now, I think it needs to be more broad, or just more general,

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Brian Silveira: because we know how it's worked out

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: so and

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: from like Jim's response, you know, just talking to me. Really, he kind of said the opposite. He said,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: there's no way the B and C would put forth the motion, unless you give all the detail of who's going to have access, and where there's a budget, and when they're using it. And and actually,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I know that reckon parks requires all that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: or typically does uh,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: maybe not just for the least of everybody.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um!

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: They do want to see a five hundred and one, c. Three.

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Brian Silveira: Listen, then. I think all of that. I I don't disagree with Jim. Then I you you would know. So then, that that sounds like an argument to table it and work out the details.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I think that's what we have to do. I think we have to try to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: have it come from the Historical Society,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: and if it doesn't go anywhere trying to do it, have it come from them. Then I guess we have to look at whether we form a new five o one, C three, someone, you know. If somebody forms a five o one, C three,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I mean actually the Carousel

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betsygoldman: Um Corporation is a five hundred and one, C three, and could do this, but I don't think that's really appropriate. I think it should be something separate.

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betsygoldman: So I don't think having the carousel wouldn't

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betsygoldman: would be okay.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Yeah, it's not my favorite

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: way to go. I think it,

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Nick, is that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: people's ideas too much. It's

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: confusing.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: yeah, because it's not just utilizing a five hundred and one, C three. It's

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Second part. I mean, when I put together the proposal for the carousel that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I submitted to record part. They want to see

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: hours of operation, you know. They want to see that the five hundred and one, C three is going to be the lessie that they are going to um.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: You know how they're going to utilize it, how they're going to staff it. You know what their budget is

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: when it's going to be available to the public. You know all of those things which are pretty simple questions to answer.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: If you have

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: a real, you know entity.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: So

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: you know what I have to go, because I am having

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: lunch,

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that

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: hopefully, our next mayors

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: house.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um, So we have to cut the meeting.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Sure pretty much now. Um! And I think

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: so. I think we need to

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: work on this right,

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betsygoldman: and before you leave I do stand corrected. I did a little more research on Rip Cronk. He currently lives in Corvallis, you know, before you said it Then I remember the name of the Yeah.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: But yeah, but whatever he may have property and weed because he did live there years to go.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Well, I do remember him saying he had horses and stuff, so that very likely would be outside it. I don't know. Look on it. The map how close is weed to Corvallis?

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: I don't know.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um. Okay. So

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: any further comment right now enjoy lunch.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Have wonderful days, and thank you for um. Your participation in this. I think we're doing good things step by step.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Um. And uh, yeah, let's follow up on those items that we discussed. So, Betsy, if you have any notes for this that you could

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: um put together. That'd be awesome.

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Robin Murez, Chair Preserving Public Places Committee: Follow up on this stuff and probably try to have a meeting same time next month.

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Okay,

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Brian Silveira: alright.

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Brian Silveira: Yeah, I'll be in touch about the the one word property owners.