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jim murez: Test. One, two,

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jim murez: Vicki, you gotta accept.

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jim murez: Try to get. Oh, there you go!

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jim murez: Good evening, Ricky

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Vicki Halliday: Jim. How are you?

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jim murez: You know

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jim murez: Construction is a uh

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jim murez: intense operation, you know. It's almost an acre of land out here

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jim murez: uh forty-five feet.

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Vicki Halliday: Yeah, and here it was about twenty-five, and of course we had half the building collapse. My walkway collapsed twelve feet deep.

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Vicki Halliday: As I walked by I it was collapsing twelve feet deep behind me. There you go on a Friday afternoon at four o'clock,

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Vicki Halliday: like God, the city inspector happened to be here, and he said, Nobody leaves until this is filled up, and it took three loads of concrete on a Friday night.

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Vicki Halliday: It so it was bad. The house is still at a tilt.

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Vicki Halliday: Oh, yeah,

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Vicki Halliday: it didn't come out level. No, I mean that house is level, this one isn't. So we have all sorts of plumbing pipe issues and stuff that happen all the time

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Vicki Halliday: that that that should be covered under uh, the contractor next door. So insurance

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Vicki Halliday: the same

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Vicki Halliday: owner

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Vicki Halliday: of that house But this building to get the vacant lot,

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Vicki Halliday: so it's the same person,

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Vicki Halliday: so he's gonna try and evict you so he can make it.

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Vicki Halliday: But when he bought the I see, so it's dealing with him, and he's not a Venice guy, and he's a nice guy, but he's in West Hollywood in the valley,

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Vicki Halliday: I think coming out here is problematic

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jim murez: as long as the plumbing keeps working

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Vicki Halliday: well. I haven't had a bathtub downstairs in three months,

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Vicki Halliday: being using the one upstairs, so they owe me that that's all the types cracking apart. But it's fun. I mean you'll There'll be stuff that you see all along the cracks and everything else that goes on. It's just kind of unavoidable.

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jim murez: Um,

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jim murez: do you have access to see who are the participants at this point?

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Vicki Halliday: Yep,

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Vicki Halliday: um, Kevin daily on? I don't know who that is,

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jim murez: but I think that that's a guide that

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Vicki Halliday: is raised his hand trying to get back into the swing of things. But i'm not sure. Here, let's see. Maybe he's going to want to speak when it's i'm just looking to see if any Board members are showing that. Yeah, that's what i'm looking for. And i'm looking for Lapd and lafd. I wrote both of them, and didn't get back the usual confirmation. But

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Vicki Halliday: sometimes that happens i'll watch for them.

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jim murez: Yeah. So these guys are going to be de-watering until they get completely out of the ground. All of their concrete will be poured by them.

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jim murez: That will be a uh,

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Vicki Halliday: probably the first year. The amount of water they're going to be pumping

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jim murez: is

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Vicki Halliday: pretty incredible

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Vicki Halliday: that twice a day

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Vicki Halliday: gushes out for about two minutes to be ten times a day. Now it's just down to two, and but and nobody can really figure it out. They've had plumbers and gardeners. And where's the water coming from

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Vicki Halliday: what's coming out of a pipel that somebody has from their their some system, probably. Yeah, but it's not the sun pump. They don't think, but it's clean water. It just comes out

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Vicki Halliday: like crazy. So that is, the diploma is very clean.

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jim murez: So yeah, I mean anybody that has what's known as incidental water water that comes off the roof of their building,

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jim murez: and it goes into

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jim murez: a sump pump.

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jim murez: Um! They would have something that would be automatic that would do that,

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jim murez: and usually comes out of like the pace of the curve.

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Vicki Halliday: Well, this comes out about a put up

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Vicki Halliday: the wall.

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Vicki Halliday: You know the walk straight. Walls are all different.

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jim murez: Good evening. Cj:

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Vicki Halliday: Hey? Hey?

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Ivan: Hey, Jim? Yeah. Hi, Okay, listen. I forgot to call you earlier. Um, I'd like to have. I'll wait. I'm going to raise my hand during public comment. I'd like a couple of minutes to talk about the election which starts in ten days

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Ivan: the the General Election.

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jim murez: Well, if it's in public comment

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jim murez: um, it would normally only be a minute.

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Ivan: Well, you can extend. Well, all right. How do you want to do it? Then

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jim murez: I don't know. I guess I would just rather let you. As we're going through committee reports. I'll let you as our Parliamentarian, but not as anybody officially for the election, because that Hasn't.

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Ivan: No, no, no, no, it's just when the polls is gonna open, and how you how you vote. That's all. But we're not even talking about voting is way premature.

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jim murez: I don't know this election. This election. Oh, the the Mayor City election. Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, The national options. Yeah, I'm going to be talking about that also, because we're going to be hosting a an election booth set up that the farmers market on Friday the fourth.

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jim murez: The county is going to be bringing out all this portable equipment, you know,

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jim murez: Robert, I tried to promote you, and for whatever reason it didn't go through. Let's try again,

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jim murez: I said. Robert.

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Ivan: Oh, Robert,

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jim murez: good evening,

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jim murez: hey? I'm here. Oh, good. Okay, Sorry. I'm kind of cough down some food before this meeting starts.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah,

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jim murez: you know It's amazing how sweet, freshly picked apples are right. You know.

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Daffodil Tyminski: What do you do in your yoga exercises stepping up and down a louder.

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Daffodil Tyminski: It's like hard I my day. It hasn't quite ended yet on work stuff, so it's always like tough on these six Pm. Starts.

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jim murez: Tell me when you're ready to help.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, I've heard it up

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jim murez: when, like somebody got to you with a pair of scissors didn't they?

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Mike Bravo: Yeah,

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Mike Bravo: I cut off during that heat way of a few weeks back. I just couldn't take it.

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jim murez: That that's a that's a close cut.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So I I you have to make me a co-host if you

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jim murez: I got distracted by the glare. There.

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jim murez: Okay, who else? J. Is here?

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jim murez: I assume that this Mckellar Michael, is Michael,

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jim murez: so I will promote him, and if it's not, we'll

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Jay Handal: man. I cut off six inches of my hair, and I thought I did a lot

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jim murez: Clark come promoting you.

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Vicki Halliday: There's a degree in a constant

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Vicki Halliday: You see him there.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I got it.

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robertthibodeau: I hope they're going to address the fire

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Vicki Halliday: looking for.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, Adrian, wait! I thought I got either

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jim murez: anybody that's in the the audience that is, a board member should raise their hand

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jim murez: so we can find you. If you don't have a an obvious name that we recognize

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Vicki Halliday: anyone else, or La Fd. Or la, can anybody them? I'm i'm looking.

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jim murez: Yup, i'm going to lower you a lot of his hand because she's not a board member.

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jim murez: We see a Nico on promoting. Now

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jim murez: see it says we have fifteen.

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Ivan is there.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I think we have a

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Daffodil Tyminski: Adrienne the only two. So yeah, we have a form. Let's get started.

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jim murez: Uh, can you do me a favor while I get through the first part of it. Can you just sort of keep an eye on the attendee list And

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm going to um promote Freddy as Well,

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jim murez: Oh, yeah, okay,

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Give me one second. I'm: just pulling up the agenda.

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That switch screens on me. Here,

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Daffodil Tyminski: Here, Siba:

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jim murez: Okay, there we go. Okay, So uh,

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jim murez: let's get this meeting started.

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jim murez: Me

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jim murez: um first. Item that I would like to do is dedicate this meeting to a old friend of mine, and a very dear one at that.

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jim murez: Uh, Billy out Bankston, who passed away last week October eighth, eighty eight years old for those of you that don't know. Billy was one of the first artists in Venice. Um in

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Ivan: half as

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jim murez: to uh actually succeeded as an artist, and becoming very big and very, very well known around the world.

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jim murez: Um! And so for that I would like to uh honor him, and uh

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jim murez: wish him uh

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jim murez: peace in his

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jim murez: journey to the next live.

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jim murez: So let's call this meeting to order.

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jim murez: The time now is six hundred and five.

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jim murez: Um!

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jim murez: You save that away.

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jim murez: And uh take a roll call, James me as is here. Daffodil,

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jim murez: Thank you, Melissa

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jim murez: Alyssa, Are you here?

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melissadiner: I'm. Here.

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jim murez: Thank you. Jay or Heimble, Are you here,

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Vicki? Here,

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jim murez: Nico.

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jim murez: Okay, great. Thank you guys, Jim Rob.

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jim murez: Thank you. Jason.

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jim murez: Alli

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jim murez: Kai

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Chie Lunn: I'm here.

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jim murez: Okay, Okay,

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jim murez: Thank you. Solidar.

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CJ Cole: Here,

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jim murez: Elizabeth.

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Ivan: Clark, here,

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jim murez: the call

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jim murez: So we have fifteen. That's quorum

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jim murez: um

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jim murez: exparte communications,

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jim murez: conflicts of interest. I had no conflicts of interest. I did have conversations with people about the items on the agenda, and I attended several of the committee meetings that uh, were involved in the items that we're going to be discussing later.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um. I did as well, Jim, I've had communications with every item on the agenda for various reasons, mostly coordination

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Jay Handal: Anyone else

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Vicki Halliday: I am in your town.

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Sima Kostovetsky: This is Sima. Same with me.

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Clark Brown: You got your hand up. Yeah. I contacted several people on flower and asked them to uh appear and speak uh on the open items.

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jim murez: You can put your hand down. Thank you. Anybody else.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um, I would Just It's definitely, Jim. I would just note, too, that Liz Kle just join the meeting.

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jim murez: Elizabeth.

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elizabeth clay: Okay, Thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you. Jeff.

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jim murez: Um. Okay. Any other exparte communications Anybody have anything that they need to share that they had conversations outside the meeting on items on the uh agenda.

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jim murez: No conflicts of interest. Okay, let's move forward.

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jim murez: Um.

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jim murez: So now we are going to go to public safety. Lapd, and la Fd.

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jim murez: Um,

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jim murez: Adrian, do you want to take it away? I don't know if any see the Vicki Did anybody from from the fire department,

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Adrian, You want to go ahead,

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Adrian Acosta: sure. Good evening, everybody, and thank you for this opportunity to uh address you guys tonight. I wanted to um very briefly. Uh it was forwarded to us by Vicki that you guys are getting our stat sheets

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Adrian Acosta: anymore. So i'm going to check with the captain. I don't know where that fell off. Um, but we can. That's a pretty simple fix, and we can get that done for you guys. Um, i'm, unfortunately wasn't able to get it done

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jim murez: uh for this meeting, but going forward it shouldn't be an issue. So you guys will have. Can you just explain to the public what we're talking about, because a lot of people have never heard about what that might be

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Adrian Acosta: sure. Um. So basically uh, every week

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Adrian Acosta: the lapd and uh globally, and the La P Pacific Division locally

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Adrian Acosta: puts together a statistical sheets for crimes that occurred.

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Adrian Acosta: Uh for the previous week. Those numbers are compared against similar time last year, and the time and the similar time two years ago to come out with overall numbers plus or minus the um step. Sheets are broken into two categories uh violent crime and property, crime

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Adrian Acosta: being homicide, rape, aggravated assault and robbery, property, crime being a grand Theftono burglary, theft, and Grand Thefton,

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Adrian Acosta: so those sheets are broken down into the eight basic cars that make up the Pacific Division from Venice,

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Adrian Acosta: going east to the to to Marvista, further east of Uh palms

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Adrian Acosta: and south uh all the way to Westchester. So there's eight basic cars, and the numbers are compiled uh to represent as such.

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Adrian Acosta: Um, I don't again. I don't know where that fell off. Uh, I don't know if our um our cad crew the computer uh crime analysis detail

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Adrian Acosta: uh stop sending it to you, but we can make it happen again.

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jim murez: I appreciate it.

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Adrian Acosta: So. Um again. Thank you, You guys, for letting me address you tonight. Um, What i'm gonna do real briefly, is just talk about some of those numbers uh that I just spoke of. Uh Lpd Pacific Division overall uh is number one in violent crime reduction at

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Adrian Acosta: minus ten point three um property. Crime. Civic division is number three in the city at minus two point, three percent

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Adrian Acosta: and overall as a whole. Uh, we are number one at a minus three point five percent reduction versus last year. Uh my partner uh senior officer, mooney contrary, she actually has the highest

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Adrian Acosta: uh number, as far as cry reduction goes, with an overall reduction of eighteen point, three for violent crime on her basic car is down seventeen point six percent

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Adrian Acosta: property crime is down eighteen point five percent.

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Adrian Acosta: Um, I think. The last time I spoke to you I was in the in the positive numbers, if not right, about zero. I'm happy to say, overall now that uh a minus eight point, eight percent reduction

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Adrian Acosta: overall uh violent crime in my car, which is uh basic car, eight, thirteen, the Oakwood area final crime downs uh thirty, six point, eight percent property crime down a very modest one point three. And why such a a fluctuation?

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Adrian Acosta: Burglaries at the beginning part of the year? Uh, we're ace um

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Adrian Acosta: huge problem. And those burglaries mainly, we're along the abbot kidney corridor

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Adrian Acosta: uh, and then stretch you out into Santa Monica.

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Adrian Acosta: Uh. The numbers have improved over the uh last several months uh, to to kind of even out the numbers that being said special emphasis through a Sara project, Um, myself will be the last quarter of this year uh to reduce globally. So you're gonna see

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Adrian Acosta: Our cadets handing out flyers for burglary prevention. Um see? Hopefully an increased uh presence of officers in the uh Oakwood area mainly uh south of California. That's where we've been being hit by burglaries uh the most

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Adrian Acosta: Um! And you'll see a blast on our social media pages about burglary prevention as well. So that's one of my points of emphasis going to this last quarter of the year. Uh first Fridays continue to uh occur first Friday every uh every month on on advocating they've been going up great um

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Adrian Acosta: hats off to a Lisa James, who organizes the event, and every month has gotten bigger and more crowded. So it's a It's a great thing to see people out and about and join having Kitty uh. We do have some special events coming up, and I'm sure we'll talk about these going forward in the next month, but just to put them on your calendar.

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Adrian Acosta: Then a sidelining will take place on Saturday, uh December the third

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Adrian Acosta: in Pacific Division, put on by Joe Weedley at Muscle Beach, will be Sunday, December the fourth. Those toys have been distributed um to the boys and girls Club, both in Venice as well as Westchester. Um. Various Ymca's and

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Adrian Acosta: I have um the Oakwood Recreation Center. I I donate a a handful of toys there, as well as some of the Hud housing apartments

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Adrian Acosta: in the Oakwood area.

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Adrian Acosta: Um, as always, I guess we don't take questions here, but I will give my email address. If anyone has any specific questions you can email me at any time.

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Adrian Acosta: My email address is three, seven, two, eight, five

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jim murez: Thank you, Adrienne. I do want to ask you one question. I'm going to break the rule,

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jim murez: I guess, because i'm President, I'm. Allowed to do that. There was a large fire that occurred recently in the canals, and and we've had several. I've received several emails from different people. Do we know if anybody was was caught, or what the outcome of that was was there because they believed it was arson at the time.

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Adrian Acosta: Yeah, I I I don't uh believe a suspect or suspects are in custody. Um, Probably a better question from the fire department, and I don't want to just say that it'd be a better question for a senior officer conference, because that's her area. But we work together all the time, and she has not mentioned um

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Adrian Acosta: that any suspects are in custody. There's several uh street rumors as to how the fire was started. I honestly don't know I do know those. Obviously the the structure was a total loss, and and there was damage to uh surrounding neighboring uh houses as well. But I do not believe that a suspect isn't asking

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jim murez: All right. Well, thank you for that, and sorry to break the world, but that we did have a lot of asks about that for sure. Yeah. And and thank you for a data.

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Vicki Halliday: Yeah, Vicki, Did we, did we? That's not a good thing. Vicki: Did we have anybody Uh, I don't see anyone from la A. Okay. Um, I see Louie from my mind's office. Well, we have. We'll get to that in a second.

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jim murez: Let me let me go back to sharing the screen, and we'll, we'll move on to uh.

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jim murez: I believe government reports is next. Let me just sign that real quick.

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jim murez: Yes, so Government reports

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Louie Leiva (he/him): Let's let's go ahead and start with that. Um. Is the field deputy from Mike Bonn's office. Here, Louis presence. Hi, good afternoon Every Good evening. I'm. Sorry uh good evening, everyone. Thank you so much for your time and attention. It's always a pleasure to be uh in community with you all.

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Louie Leiva (he/him): I know that. Uh, there have been a wide array of things

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Louie Leiva (he/him): in the news in the media. All this again to say there was a wide array of uh disruptions and council was at a standstill last week uh today they voted on a new City Council President. Uh: so Paul Crocorgan. So a lot of city motions are going to be able to move forward. Um with uh general sessions and committees and things of that sort. All this is going to say uh bon and Team bonnet is less than sixty days uh within the transition out.

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Louie Leiva (he/him): Um, as the vet is field deputy. One of the things that i've been to with is um

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Louie Leiva (he/him): one of the pending legacy projects that includes uh the Open Park renaming so a quick update on that one. Uh, we are hosting a virtual community meeting in partnership uh with wreck and parks. So it's tentatively scheduled uh for uh, Thursday, October seventeenth.

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Louie Leiva (he/him): Uh at seven Pm. This is via zoom and out because we're still awaiting flyers. But i'll definitely be there to send that to uh

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Louie Leiva (he/him): Jason and the rest of the team for you all that are interested in sharing feedback. So uh, part of the initial proposal is uh changing uh, and adding the name uh, uh,

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Louie Leiva (he/him): uh Park and Recreation center. So uh, These are some of the early activists in the African American community in oak water that initially brought the petition to the Council Office. Uh, with that uh, still on the topic of Oakwood. Last month we

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Louie Leiva (he/him): actually earlier this month we successfully hosted a breast cancer awareness event with the Santa Monica Venice uh unification organization. Uh, at Oakwood there were local vendors. There were health screenings. Um mammograms. Um! It was fun uh to be uh

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Louie Leiva (he/him): able to spend time amongst uh some of the neighbors uh one of the big things. I think that I've personally been receiving a lot since we are entering the holiday season. There are multiple event and funding requests also just general, like street permitting uh components, We have a a lot of uh Venice.

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Louie Leiva (he/him): It'd be really active, and it's going to be an exciting time for how we're going to be able to work this also just between now and the end of term, which is set for uh December eleventh, if you all, or any of your organizations, Peers colleagues are interested in reaching out to the office to help support uh funding, uh, whether it be through uh small community grants, or the waving of street permits for uh, any block parties or things of the sort that you all have between now

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Louie Leiva (he/him): uh, and the end of term. Uh, please reach out to me my email address. I'll drop in the chat, but is also in the agenda,

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Louie Leiva (he/him): and then we're um once. Another thing that we are excited about, and I do see that Jason is a part of the committee and present in the chat We're working with Jason Uh. And his team uh for the Venice Jazz Festival, which is slated to occur at uh the Venice Center along the muscle beach area for uh November eleventh.

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Louie Leiva (he/him): Well, this isn't hosted in Venice itself. We're hosting a district wide connect. Ah, so uh, this being an opportunity to gather folks within the district that are experiencing homelessness and pairing it up, pairing them up with social workers. Um different uh

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Louie Leiva (he/him): being able to secure like an Id uh social security card uh, also other different types of resources to try and pair them with housing, and then that one is tentatively slated for October eleventh uh, and i'm going to try and see if we can could provide transport for folks in the Venice community to be able to make it up

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Louie Leiva (he/him): sure. Um! Events Wise. That's generally what I have set for you all again. Thank you for your time and attention. I know I dropped a lot, so i'll also be sure to follow up via email, so it's a easier to access as well. Thank you.

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jim murez: Is Janet Turner here?

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jim murez: is now here, so if she should show up uh i'll, I'll let that. Yeah, Thank you. Yeah, Bill, You let me know, or something, and I believe that some more people have participated in our pretty well. We'll get to that in a minute. So who is the next person, I guess. Is there somebody from Ben Allen's office here. No,

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Daffodil Tyminski: I don't know. Um, No, I don't think we have anyone from that office. Okay, Vicki, Who did you say was here?

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jim murez: Oh, Oh, the yeah, Okay? Well, well, why don't we finish with these reports and then we'll go back to that, because that's where do you want to? Just take them now? We can take him Now I would take him now because we're. We're in. Janet and I and Sonya was supposed to be here, and I don't see her yet.

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Chief Zipperman: Yeah, i'm on. Okay, Go ahead. You have to Hi! Good evening, everybody, and again Thank you for the invite. Um!

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jim murez: Let me just interrupt you. For one second we did have a request. If if you had any update on the fire that occurred in the canals, and i'll let you give you a report down. If you have any update we would love to hear it.

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Chief Zipperman: I What I can share with you is um. I know there's been a lot of uh um reaching out, and information in regards to that tick or incident. Um, I've had to do a little bit of a, you know, rumor control and um

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Chief Zipperman: uncertainty control on that, because there were some emails that were flying through the community in regards to you know, the fire station being closed and the fire apparatus not,

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Chief Zipperman: you know, being at the right hydrants a whole lot of different things. Anyhow, I was there that night. I will tell you that the first in fire station that covers that area was the first ones on scene. Uh, although, as you guys know, we have multiple apparatus and some of our fire stations

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Chief Zipperman: One of the apparatus was out, so they were the first ones there. They're very familiar with the district. They're very familiar with the hydrants. They actually spotted to the hydrant right there at the canal where the bridges on the corner and they had a water supply. Um,

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Chief Zipperman: as you guys know, we have uh the fire that consume the uh the resident under construction um,

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Chief Zipperman: which also exposed because those houses are so close together and exposed to two other occupancies. Um. And we obviously have some damage to those occupancies for the incident. Uh, we did have the appropriate resources on scene.

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Chief Zipperman: We operated in the capacity that we would normally operate in um. We did have our arson section come out that evening. Um, They did have some video that they looked at, and they are continuing

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Chief Zipperman: the investigation on that particular matter from my understanding. There has been uh no um origin or cause at this time that has been made public.

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Chief Zipperman: It's uh so i'm going to say that's still under investigation with our arson Section

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Chief Zipperman: Um. I know that we uh have had some issues with homelessness in that area. Uh, we certainly um. I personally spoke to Cd eleven office uh, and we spoke obviously regarding the fire, as you can imagine, they were uh interested in determining what the cause was as well.

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Chief Zipperman: Uh. So when we do have a cause, or if it is made public, we certainly let you know. Um. I do know that there's been some inquiries lately in in the Venice area in regards to the Lincoln area there uh Lincoln Boulevard and some of the encampments, and

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Chief Zipperman: um I guess there was a gentleman that was doing welding there and so forth. We sent our uh firefighter paramedics team that we use for surveying and uh interacting with the homeless encampments and communities out there. Uh, and they did a pretty thorough survey uh, and did not find that particular individual out there when they were there, but again engaged and ensured that things were safe.

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Chief Zipperman: Um, I know that there's uh individuals in the community that are reaching out in regards to posting signs. Um, it's very difficult. We We have things in the in the city of Los Angeles that, as you may know, called very high fire severity zones that's usually in the mountain,

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Chief Zipperman: the identified mountain areas of Los Angeles that we post signs, and they have restrictions according to the fire code. No parking, no smoking things like that.

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Chief Zipperman: Uh, it's. It's not very common that we can just use a flat land area like that. That really is not considered a very high fire severity zone

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Chief Zipperman: uh, and just post signs. Um! But what we do is we go through the Council Office, and we let them know the concerns of the community and the Council Office would have more power to work with

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Chief Zipperman: uh the the department of engineering traffic uh Street services to try to develop some sort of parking restrictions, and it and I will tell you personally from dealing with it in Hollywood. It is not an easy task, and it does not happen overnight, so I do know that they're aware of it.

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Chief Zipperman: Um, I've developed a really good relationship with it with the uh individuals in the Cd uh eleven office. So we're. We're continuing to work on those issues that I know your communities are identifying. Um, but they're not going to happen overnight. So you know

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Chief Zipperman: I I am. I am engaging uh I'm doing everything I can from my end. Um! And and I understand your concerns, and and I feel for you. Um! There's some in some other uh areas of concern with some vacant structures in the Venice area.

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Chief Zipperman: Um! And we again we're working with a building of engineering, and and there's a building and and safety, and I've sent out Fire Department reps to all those concerned meetings with some of the community members um to represent the fire department, and whatever information or professional opinion or experienced opinion we can add, we will certainly do that. Uh, when it comes to

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Chief Zipperman: uh safety of the particular structure uh any fire hazards the immediate fire hazards. But again, it's very difficult for us to make a decision to say, You guys need to demolish this, and that's naturally it's out of our court when it comes to that. We got to go through a lot of legal process as well. So I know there's been a lot of concern in the Venice area, and I will tell you that we continue to send out what we call our Frv unit, which has the firefighter paramedics.

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Chief Zipperman: We're gonna continue making those uh interactions with the community. Um! And if you do see something again, I do appreciate all your input um, and I respond as quickly as I can to try to mitigate some of that stuff uh for your concern. So thank you for your patience and that kind of stuff. So um that that's my report.

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robertthibodeau: better time. That's it, and we'll you uh what it Three family three families lost their home, and that's it.

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jim murez: I'm sorry. What was that?

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robertthibodeau: We had? Three families who lost their homes, and that that's what That's the report we get.

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robertthibodeau: I heard. I heard they showed up thirty minutes late.

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Chief Zipperman: Um! That's not accurate. Actually thirty minutes late. So i'm i'm not quite sure where the information where you're getting it, or or how. Your

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Chief Zipperman: and that that's that's fine. I'm not going to get into an argument. I'm letting you know from the fire Department's perspective that uh, when the call comes out, there's a processing time of a minute minute and a half uh the fire companies get dispatch, and they're they're there. So thirty minutes uh I can.

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Chief Zipperman: I'll put my job on the line saying that if to thirty minutes to get there from the time that somebody called the fire department,

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elizabeth clay: that's not accurate,

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CJ Cole: so. Nine hundred and eleven didn't answer. Let me let me. You know I happen to live there. And it was not. I have water on that fire in turn absolutely no way there Wasn't even a silent Cj: I have to to keep this moving forward. I'm sorry

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jim murez: the the the chief gave the report. Uh, we can. We could talk to him more offline later on. But but uh that, that's the report that he believes is accurate. And and we're gonna go with that. We're not gonna

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elizabeth clay: interrogate him here. It is not the place for that, not not so much an interrogation. But if you just had an opportunity to answer on whether it was nine hundred and eleven. That

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elizabeth clay: is where we should be looking at the time differential, because it's an important point, and we received a lot of feedback on it.

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Chief Zipperman: Yeah. So i'll tell you what. Um, you you have my email. Vicki has my email.

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Chief Zipperman: Um. Why, don't you go ahead and reach out to me offline. This is an offline conversation. I'm not going to get into it with the community as far as what we did, or we didn't do. I'll get the accurate information for you, and i'll show you what you need to know in a meeting uh that way. You can have what what you have before you based on what? How we responded, how we got the call, the processing time, the time that the units got on zoom and the reaction that they took. I I I understand.

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Chief Zipperman: You know I've been on the fire department almost thirty-seven years, and I I get it. The community is upset, and they're in, and they they want answers. Um, But I can only tell you from my end. Um what our operation in the Los Angeles City Fire department is how we operate, how our calls come in,

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Chief Zipperman: and when it, when the fire station gets run down uh what the timeline is to get out of quarters and the firefighters getting on scene. So, um! I would be more than happy to share numbers and timelines with you, but not at this meeting.

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jim murez: Thank you. I appreciate it, and and we definitely want to hear from you uh more as we as we learn more about what what was going on. Well, we'll be. Thank you very much. Um.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Chief.

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jim murez: What? What? Vicki? I just thank him. Okay, Um,

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jim murez: Freddy, I think Well, let's see. Is Is anybody here from from uh is that here?

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jim murez: I can see that Janet is not here yet. Sonya is not here yet. No, Have a deputy and Carceti's office yet, doing Okay? Um. So I guess, Freddie, did you have a report you wanted to give to us tonight?

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I'll just do it very quickly, but i'll email the whole thing. Um. The only thing i'll just highlight is that collections are coming up uh November twenty, sixth is the time that i'll be opening up uh the city clerk uh elections Rep. Should have already contacted Venice Neighborhood Council

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): um to try to get a presentation in the the November Board meeting

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Um, And in my email i'll be sending you the link to the two thousand and twenty-three Nc regional election schedule election, timeline, election handbook, and the election Administrator list by a neighbor of Council.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Um, Other than that. The only thing I just do want to highlight is that on uh October twenty fourth is the deadline for the La zoom uh Teeny Council for conservation.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Um! This is done by the La Zoo Youth Council program, which is an educational stipend to bring youth to work with the issues on conservation, social and environmental justice and climate and specific focus will be determined by the members each year. Um, this type in will be about

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): uh three hundred dollars per month over nine months to participants of the La Zoom Team Council for Con

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): conservation. The eligibility requirements will be for ages fourteen, through eighteen, and enroll in high school, live within the city of Los Angeles. Interest in animals, zoom Conservation, and or the communities of Los Angeles, and commitment to diversity, equity, inclusion, belonging and accessibility.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Um, i'll email you this information so you can share with your stakeholders and any other uh youth members in the Venice Neighborhood Council um area that want to be part of this amazing um

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jim murez: youth program. When you do that, who are you going to be emailing it to? Just so. We know who to be up because, like the the person for the elections, has not yet reached out to me, and i'm not sure who they would be reaching out to.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Okay. Um, I will copy uh the election rep as well by I normally email the Venice uh email the standard and powerly email for Venice.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Alright, Thank you already appreciate it.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Great Freddy, This is Sima. Just please. Um, i'm on the list right for the Youth Council, the La Zoo Youth Council.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Yeah. He's going to send it to the board. The board.

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melissadiner: Okay. Um. Can I say one other thing real quick. I just I don't see the La Fd. Email on here. So we send it to the circulated that. Yeah, that'd be awesome. Thanks.

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jim murez: Yeah, we should add that Mickey, probably to the agenda. So it's always published there. I haven't been doing that, maybe to our to our senior leads. Also.

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jim murez: uh when Jay gives his report as the treasurer uh land use, Michael, how are you doing over there.

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Michael: Nothing to report.

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jim murez: Okay, Um. Neighborhood Daffodil, How are we doing?

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Daffodil Tyminski: Trying to unmute? Um? We are fine. We've had a bunch of people in and out, and we will be meeting right after the election. We have a number of the committee members who um

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Daffodil Tyminski: really tied up with the elections. So

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Jim Robb: we uh had Sony on board to talk about the big battle between the Pickle ball and the paddle ball of the financing uh everybody got along, and we think we hired a most of that out. Also talked about the uh lights out on the Dennis here, which uh Nick has been

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Jim Robb: consistently asking about. So those are in the works. Uh, Also, I wanted to get a shout out to Brian Averil for his dentist association. He had an event uh last week with about one hundred and fifty surfers, and wanted to take Jason uh

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Jim Robb: Jason for coming into our meeting. Talk about his event on the November twenty, eighth, and the ocean from Park is fully in support of the the event. Thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you. Um.

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jim murez: Outreach

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jim murez: anything to report.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Good evening, um

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Sima Kostovetsky: deaf. I don't want to steal Sonia's thunder, but definitely wanted to talk about the La Parks and Wrecks

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Sima Kostovetsky: trunk or treat. It is their Halloween spectacular, which is on Friday, October twenty, eighth, right at the Venice Beach Recreation Center

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Sima Kostovetsky: and Um. They are asking for volunteers, so please, if you can volunteer from four to eight Pm. They are also asking for donations of Halloween candy. Anything Halloween related. Um, I will post on our website,

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Sima Kostovetsky: and then we will also promote a little bit closer to

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Sima Kostovetsky: thanks for the shout out uh Jim to Vsa, Venice Surf Association. It was wonderful to be out there and supporting the community with the kids, and I can't believe it took this long to actually put this together. But it was a great kick off. Event, Great event for the community and the whole family. So thank you, and i'm so glad. I believe, that the Councilman's office spoke about

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Sima Kostovetsky: uh Jason's event. So uh, maybe we could actually support that as well.

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Sima Kostovetsky: So, Jason, i'm not sure if you're here. But ah

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Sima Kostovetsky: definitely excited about that. So thank you.

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jim murez: Okay,

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jim murez: um. We don't have a rules and selections and is. Did Bruno show up?

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Daffodil Tyminski: very quickly, Jim. This is i'm sorry to interrupt. I don't know if you noted um, and I should have told you a while ago. But um Ally Bean and Jason Triggers are here

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jim murez: Uh, Jason, are you here?

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, sir, I am here. Great ally! Are you here uh, so I've had a little bit of a trouble promoting ally for whatever reason I can. She she's here. She texted me she's here, but I can't get her

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jim murez: for some reason to be a panelist, but until she can identify herself verbally we can't check her in, so we'll just keep going if that happens. Hold on one second, maybe. Let me just allow her to talk with up for one as well. We can keep going with our other committee reports. Keith, are you here?

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jim murez: Anybody? See if Keith is here? Vicky, do you notice his Keith here?

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jim murez: I'm here. Thank you. Dev,

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jim murez: would be next. Uh, is Frank here? Uh, Frank, is that? But we spoke earlier, and there's nothing to report. Okay, uh, Robert, do you have anything to report parking and transportation

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robertthibodeau: on the first Monday regarding um couple of things, the

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robertthibodeau: We had a good presentation by Selena that maybe we should

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robertthibodeau: uh and then we're in discussion with Jay and Um,

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robertthibodeau: and uh seem about um trying to get a budget together for a town hall on that. If you want to do that,

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robertthibodeau: if you think it's needed the other thing that happened was is uh, I haven't heard it directly, but I heard through the grade find that the portion of the diet that was to be in Venice.

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robertthibodeau: Um has two potential modifications uh one is that uh, the deadline on it has been extended for. Input.

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robertthibodeau: So they're going to put that one off for a year, so it's not as urgent as it was before,

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robertthibodeau: but they're also talking about extending it west of Lincoln. Um I'm. Not sure what the termination point would be. I would assume it would be somewhere around Brand, where the road narrows. But that's an assumption. Um,

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robertthibodeau: And uh,

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robertthibodeau: yeah, that was the Biggie. Um. We had a couple of more smaller things uh speedway, which i'd like to talk to Jim Rob about some traffic slowing on that.

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robertthibodeau: yeah, that's we'll have another meeting the first of the month, and uh anybody wants to attend is a uh more than welcome. Thank you very much. Uh Sima just wanted to recognize your hand was up. Um! Did you have something else that you needed to fill in that, you?

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Sima Kostovetsky: Yes, i'm sorry. Um! I forgot one quick thing that one of our committees is doing, and that is November fifth, and that is a bird and tree walk by our verdant Venice group.

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Sima Kostovetsky: And uh it is with Leon Boroditsky, who is apparently a noted um botanist. And uh, so yes, information is up on our website and comes support. This is on November fifth

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Sima Kostovetsky: with verdant Venice,

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Sima Kostovetsky: and it starts at ten Am. Thank you. I think we rename that committee to the Arbor committee.

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jim murez: I mean, they're up next is is uh

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jim murez: anybody here from the Arbor Committee tonight.

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jim murez: It'd be Sarah or Isabel.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Isabella is here, and I didn't mean to steer your thunder.

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jim murez: He wanted to. That's okay. No problem at all. Uh, you want to make a uh uh some sort of a uh presentation. You said, You told me the other day you had something about.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Okay. So today i'm here representing both um Venice group and the Venice Harbour Committee. Um, yes, you heard about our tree walk, so thank you very much. You did not steal my thunder. It's good to hear from somebody else. Um,

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Isabelle Duvivier: let's see. I just wanted to say a couple of things uh we applied for an la beautification grant for to do some uh plant restoration at Taber Irving Court, which is adjacent to year One and then we're in the second round we expect to hear back from them shortly.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um. This coming Saturday from eight to ten we will be continuing to do some greening along under our baby oaks at gold. Gym. Um! Anyone's welcome to come out

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Isabelle Duvivier: uh you don't need to have any experience with a shovel or um, or with your hands. Just bring gloves. Um. But the main reason i'm here today is to tell you about a letter that we've written.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um I'm also. Not only am I A. Co-chair of Wooden Venice, and on the board of the Venice Harbour Committee, but i'm also your Cfac representative for Cd. Eleven, c. Fact stands for the Community Forest Advisory Committee, and we're a city agency for the entire city.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um, as I've spoken to before several times, we are a biodiversity hotspot. This map shows a map of um speed native species across the country, and you can see the deep, the deeper the purple, the most number of endemic species we have.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um! This is also a map I shared with you below before. That shows the um. The loss in canopy coverage from two thousand to two thousand and nine, and you can see it's upward of forty. That was ten years ago, and it's increased a lot since then

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Isabelle Duvivier: all of this is to uh share with you what Cfac is recommending for the new budget cycle.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um, You can see that, compared to other cities, our urban tree canopy is very, very lower. At fourteen percent city wide whereas Austin, Texas is thirty-six, and Pittsburgh is thirty-eight. I realize I misspelled pittsburgh sorry about that

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Isabelle Duvivier: um. So Cfac has written a letter.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um! This is a really important time. We're going to have a new mayor. We're going to have many new Council members, a new Budget cycle starting, and our urban canopy is grossly under funded. We fund our urban canopy at Point two five. That's a quarter of one percent, whereas other cities

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Isabelle Duvivier: fund their canopy, at least one. So we are sending um letters out to council members to the Mayor's office, and we are going to vent different neighborhood councils

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Isabelle Duvivier: to promote the idea that we really need to protect our trees from all the way from planning department, all to la sanitation to building and safety. All of those departments just Don't even think twice about removing a hundred year old oak tree, including our own loop pack um, And part of the problem is that we don't think about trees first. We think about them last. So it's really nobody's fault. It's just general um

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Isabelle Duvivier: dysfunction in the city. And so we're hoping to change that. Um, Thank you. That's all i'm here to report for the day.

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jim murez: Thank you.

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jim murez: Um.

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jim murez: Now back to our regularly scheduled

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jim murez: Um! Who is next uh the discussion for him. Joe Murphy here,

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jim murez: and and what about uh, Robin? Mira is preserving public spaces,

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Daffodil Tyminski: robins here, and I believe she's either been promoted or I allowed her to talk.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yeah, Sorry I've been having trouble promoting people.

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Robin Murez: Hi, Can you hear me?

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Robin Murez: So uh the one thing i'll mention is just kind of uh

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Robin Murez: rumor that I've following that i'm starting to follow up on that the um

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Robin Murez: iconic

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Robin Murez: uh Venice Life Guard Station. The big building on the beach

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Robin Murez: they're taking down the top two floors of it, they say, because of safety issues. And you know again, this committee is about preserving public places.

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Robin Murez: I think that's a pretty cool iconic building, and um, I welcome anyone who might be able to help us look into. Uh, if there are ways to preserve it, or you know, rebuild it so that it could continue to be a cool iconic building that we do So

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Robin Murez: that's all. Thank you very much,

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Daffodil Tyminski: and Jim Janet Turner is here,

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jim murez: and if Robin can lower her hand, that would be appreciated.

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Janet Turner: Good evening, Everyone uh nice to see everybody. It was a very exciting day to day. Um! I was at the uh Wallace Annenberg, uh wildlife crossing uh it.

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Janet Turner: Uh we were celebrating the beginning of the construction of the world's largest wildlife crossing It's gonna go over the one o one uh something uh the Congressman has been working on for seven years and to see it actually starting to be built is just so monumentally exciting.

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Janet Turner: Um! So uh

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Janet Turner: a couple of things. The Congressman's been up to. He uh was with the President uh last week. Um to celebrate the future Metro stop at West Los Angeles, Va. And of course, uh they were

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Janet Turner: explaining that a lot of the additional funding came from the infrastructure and Jobs act that was just passed recently. Uh, and so

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Janet Turner: that's that's again something we're looking forward to, and it will be done in time for the Olympics. So that's really good.

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Janet Turner: Um, Congressman, on a more serious note, came out in a press release in solidarity with the protesters in Iran, he said. I stand in solidarity with Iranians risking their lives to peacefully protest for human rights. And of course he goes on uh

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Janet Turner: explaining that an idea

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Janet Turner: he supported, uh at several different resolutions uh that Congress made in in support of of those protests.

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Janet Turner: Uh wanted to let you know um, and i'm gonna send to Vicki.

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Janet Turner: There's uh the Congressman is having a webinar on uh Sunday, November thirteenth, at two o'clock it's called Conversations with military families,

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Janet Turner: and again i'm so excited because we have a couple that was stationed at um the Embassy in Iran, and had to leave when it was evacuated. When the war started. So um! They'll be telling about that. And also, of course, they have many friends. Um,

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Janet Turner: did I say? Around Ukraine they were stationed in Ukraine. It's been a long day uh they were stationed at Ukraine uh, when it had to be evacuated, and uh, they still have many friends that they're very worried about in Ukraine. So. Um,

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Janet Turner: that's just one of the stories you'll hear uh. So i'll send you the flyer and and please our Svp. Because it's a Webinar,

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Janet Turner: and we're excited that uh tomorrow President Biden is expected to to uh tap some more oil reserves, and uh, hopefully, we're gonna see the guest of price going down. Yeah, we need that.

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Janet Turner: So uh, our office is always open and available to you. Um, if especially if you have a Federal issue or help you to help. Uh and um,

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jim murez: please feel free to reach out if you have any other questions. I appreciate the allowing me to have the time to give the report. Thank you.

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jim murez: Um. Okay. Moving along and see my I'm: i'm

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jim murez: hoping that we can also get some of these things posted uh as as flyers, or whatever on our website, so people could find it without having to go through our entire meeting. Um!

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jim murez: As far as my report. We still have a vacancy on the board. Um! We also are still looking to get uh somebody that wants to pull the rules and selection spot.

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jim murez: Um, we do have some email addresses that that are part of the application that's available on the website. Um, And on that I just had one other uh thing that I mentioned. What is, What is the deadline for applying for the board seat? And what is the process?

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jim murez: Let's just

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jim murez: on the agenda. That would be the deadline that we would be able to get it on the next agenda.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay,

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jim murez: and the process, The process is all explained

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jim murez: on that link that's described there on the website.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, just wanted that. I just wanted to make sure everyone knew that. So I think this. It inadvertently got taken off the um agenda, but we did not call resiliency.

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jim murez: Who is here and ready to speak? Actually I did. I asked, for if we with Keith was here. Oh, no, Eric is here. I'm sorry. I didn't hear that if you did. Oh, all right. Um, yeah, no, I didn't realize. So let it. So let me. Just let me just finish my report, and then we'll go. We'll go back because I've understood that,

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jim murez: and Keith was the chair of that committee in the day. I didn't know that Eric was filling it, so we'll we'll go back to Erica in one second. I just wanted to finish my report with something that came up that I wasn't able to put on the agenda because it wasn't confirmed for sure. But La County will be um hosting a mobile voting station at the Venice Farmers market on Friday, November fourth, from seven Am. To eleven, and you'll either be able to to drop off your ballot there

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jim murez: um, if you choose to do that, or you can actually vote in person there. Um! And I guess they're setting these in person voting uh uh stations up in various places around the city, and they wanted me to make sure that uh we get the word spread. So um! They sent me a flyer, and i'll be forwarding that to Uh sima um

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jim murez: after the meeting.

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jim murez: Thank you. Now let's go back to uh

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jim murez: to Erica. Is she unmuted?

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Erica Moore: Hi, I'm, i'm gonna fill in for Keith because i'm on the committee. Uh, And basically just to give you guys an update uh

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Erica Moore: we will be piggybacking our events along with other events. And what that means is events like the Venice trick or trunk participation? We're looking to participate with them have reached out to them. We're hoping we can have a booth there, and we are looking to be at first Fridays.

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Erica Moore: So uh keep your eye out for us. I mean, our goal is, we want to engage and help the community stakeholders to make Venice disaster resilient. This is very important for all of us. Every single one of us is subject to a possible disaster. So it moves all of us to participate in this and um

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Erica Moore: get ourselves as as uh prepared as possible. So uh keep your eyes peeled for information Coming we are uh Keith is working diligently to form these relationships, and uh get us into a regular cycle, and we're also looking at, possibly participating with the chambers of Art Walks monthly.

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jim murez: So that's where what we have to say for now. Thanks so much for your time.

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jim murez: Have talked to their neighbors and asked them, What do we do if we ring your doorbell, and there's a fire going on, and you need to evacuate. Do. I have permission to break your window and come in and wake you up,

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jim murez: and I'll be honest. I don't have that permission with my neighbors, and I don't know how my neighbors would feel about it, but I think it's something that we all need to think about, especially when we're talking about resiliency, because this is something we're living with now every day, and we need to be thinking about it.

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jim murez: So

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jim murez: let's move along. Thank you for

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jim murez: accepting my

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jim murez: brief speech about that. But I think it's so important.

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jim murez: Let's save that away.

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jim murez: Um, Okay, Moving along announcements items not on the agenda. So this is the chance for the public to speak. We'll give everybody one minute. I'll be keeping track of the time. Daffodil will be calling your names Um! Raise your hand if you would like to.

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jim murez: And Daffodil, I'm going to hand the microphone to you.

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jim murez: Um, I've been uh wanted to speak about the voting uh issue. I've been Uh, I give you a couple of minutes. Do you need to share screen or anything?

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jim murez: Okay, Go ahead, take take a go.

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Ivan: So everybody elections are upon us Voting actually begins in ten days. Um election day is November eighth, but you can vote um

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Ivan: starting the twenty ninth

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Ivan: If you're just mailing it in, you can me on your ballot now. Everybody should have got one in the mail

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Ivan: beginning on the twenty ninth, and it'll be open every day up to an end and including election day. Um! There's also um! There will be some other polls that will open later.

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Ivan: Um beginning on the fifth. There'll be one at Westminster School. There'll be one boys and Girls Club of Venice, so everybody should have received the ballot. What do you do with it?

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Ivan: You can return it by mail. Just fill it out. Make sure you sign the envelope and drop it in any mailbox

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Ivan: you can drop it at. There are at least two drop boxes that i'm aware of. One is at the right outside the Venice Library. There's another one at the Marina Library for those of you that are in that part of town.

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Ivan: Um!

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Ivan: Same thing. Make sure you assign your ballot, or else it won't count uh, or you can show up

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Ivan: at live at the poll. You could bring your vote by now ballot, and just drop it off at the poll. You don't have to wait in line. Um,

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Ivan: uh, or if you wish, you can swap it at the pole

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Ivan: for an actual

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Ivan: regular ballot. We will void your vote by now ballot, and you can vote on the machine. So if you would rather do that

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Ivan: um, two other things that will make voting go more quickly. Um! And you you should all have gotten a a flyer about this from the county registrar.

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Ivan: Um,

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Ivan: you got a flyer about uh i'm not sure what it's called, because it says election information. There's a bar code on it.

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Ivan: if you bring that piece of paper with you, we don't have to ask you for your name or type anything in. We just scan the Bar code, and your information just comes up.

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Ivan: So please remember to bring that with you if you're coming to the poll.

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Ivan: Ah, last thing you can go online. I'm going to give you the web address.

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Ivan: It's L. A. Vote, One word L A vote

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Ivan: got go

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Ivan: slash

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Ivan: I. X. B.

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Ivan: And what that will do is allow you to create a poll pass at home on your computer, on your tablet, on your phone. Um! You can. It'll put up your ballot. You can fill it in.

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Ivan: It'll create a Qr code which will go on your phone and then you can bring that into the poll with you.

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Ivan: Then you don't have to sit there and fill out your ballot on the machine. You just scan the Qr code, and your ballot comes up on the machine already filled in. You have a chance to change it if you want to make alterations, but that'll save you a lot of time because it's it is a long ballot. So

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Ivan: go online. Join the Modern age, and that's it. Thank you. Everybody. Vote, please come on out and vote.

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jim murez: Um,

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jim murez: Okay, back to our regularly scheduled meeting. We're back to uh public comment

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jim murez: Daffodil. I was about to hand the microphone over to you when I had forgotten about. I've been wanting to announce that. So i'm going to do that now. The time clock.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um, Okay. So i'm just gonna take them in the order they're popping up on the screen. Uh Robin Mueres. Why, don't you go ahead?

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Robin Murez: Sorry. Sorry I had to unmute again. Um, yeah. So I just want to tell you as a neighbor immediately across from the houses that burned.

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Robin Murez: The fault is not with the fire department at all. They were awesome. Um, The problem is that there are so many calls coming into both nine hundred and eleven, and the fire department that they can't answer them all rapidly. And So

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Robin Murez: our local fire trucks were dealing with other homeless issues, and I

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Robin Murez: it's very frustrated because the protocols until the um situation that they're at is resolved. They can't leave, so that caused, I guess, some degree of delay. Um,

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Robin Murez: whatever the captain said, they were still the first to come, but apparently there were at least a couple um other homeless issues,

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Robin Murez: and then I couldn't get through to nine. One one and many of us couldn't get through, and that's because the switchboards are getting so many homeless calls, and we've defunded the police, so they don't have enough people to handle.

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Robin Murez: That's all.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Robin.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um

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Daffodil Tyminski: Shon O'brien! Hi, Sean, go ahead!

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Sean Obrien: Hi! Guys thanks for everything. Oh, I witnessed, though I watched the City Council meeting today,

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Sean Obrien: and by watching part of it it was very long.

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Sean Obrien: Uh they're talking about expanding uh the city council membership, you know. Twenty-one, twenty-four members I think it would be a much better thing for us more prudent if we actually

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Sean Obrien: getting involved in trying to uh shrink

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Sean Obrien: the size of city of La Uh, which that would mean that you know. Let Venice vex it.

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Sean Obrien: So get rack involved in that. Maybe Nick and a cello would want to revisit that. Um. I think it'd be much better to shrink. La! Then to expand the City council. Uh, it would be more efficient and much more stronger representation. Thank you.

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Thank you, John.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um Guys, when you're done talking to. Can you lower your hands?

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um! You don't see it the way I see it, but it messes up uh

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the zoom.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Erica Moore, Go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You just need to unmute.

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Erica Moore: Hi there! Um! I just wanted to check in and uh acknowledge the better Safety and Mobility Project as what they're calling it. Basically the road diet that was mentioned earlier by the transportation department.

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Erica Moore: Uh, it is a very real thing. I personally sat with the do without people for an hour and a half with undivided attention, and had a very specific conversation with them, as I have attended multiple meetings with them in the last month, because it will directly affect my business, which is, sits on them full of our.

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Erica Moore: What you need to know is, they are going to extend it all the way to the beach. That's their plan. Um. But at this moment the section i'm. In which is from Beethoven down

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Erica Moore: will not be touched for at least a year. We absolutely need that Town Hall. Everybody needs to be aware of what exactly they're talking about. And look at the options. There are lots of options that we could pursue. That would make much more sense, and truly be safer for bicyclists and everybody else. Thanks so much, You guys thank you for volunteering to be

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Erica Moore: our uh neighborhood Council, and thank you for letting me speak.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Erica.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um

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Daffodil Tyminski: Gary Pearl go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And again, Erica, if you could lower your that'd be great.

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gary pearl: Hi! Um! I live in the canals. Um. I want to see a couple of things. One I got up at ten forty-five

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gary pearl: first started hearing the alarm, saw the fire went down the but what it was really great is I went down Block to Alley's house to everyone on my side and banged on the doors and asked everyone else, Are we getting everyone out of there? We have a bunch of people who are. I'll just say over sixty. Many are over eighty,

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gary pearl: and some people lost their homes in this. The fire department did an amazing job. First of all. Um, yes, could they have been there sooner? It It it policy doesn't allow them to call this as a Lev. But I I brought them to Donuts. I was so happy with how they did respond. I think it was a tunnel. Large fire.

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gary pearl: The next thing is, i'm tired of hearing that we're not well. I'm tired of hearing

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gary pearl: all the people that are on this call. We're so aware, and we're so,

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gary pearl: you know, functionally helping helping the homeless, and we're being fought against it every turn. I just want to say that we all deserve it. A round of applause, for we've done for one hundred years, and I want to stop allowing anyone else to to tell us anything, otherwise we don't deserve that. We work really hard. Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks. Gary.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um, Daniel Leg it uh Hold on, Daniel, go ahead,

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Daniel Liggett: am I there? You can hear I'm uh calling about the big major problem on Flower Avenue.

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Daniel Liggett: We feel we feel we on flower feel like we've been unheard, and we're on taking care of and unrepresented.

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Daniel Liggett: Uh we've been in contact with everybody we can think of from Officer Acosta to Bonan's office, uh, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and we have a problem with the you know, at the end of our block

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Daniel Liggett: that is also extended now to the middle of the next block and a bit in an abandoned house. Um! It's dangerous on our block, and I being, you know, of six feet tall. I'm afraid to walk around here,

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Daniel Liggett: you know, and my wife and I take take a time off to switch around so we one of us can always be home because we're afraid of these people. They come over the walls, they come over the fences. They, in fact, this evening I saw them. I observed them stealing water from somebody's front yard.

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Daniel Liggett: It's It's just It's just out of hand here, and really we're pleading for help. Here

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Daniel Liggett: we we did that. That's that's I don't know what else to say. Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you so much, Daniel.

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Um

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Daffodil Tyminski: Kalani w

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Kalani W: go ahead.

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Kalani W: You do not vote for career Politicians, I mean. We currently have someone running for mayor who accepted a nearly hundred thousand dollar gift from Usc. And Usc. Lives in her Congressional district.

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Kalani W: It may not be against the law, but it is highly unethical, and shows poor judgment, and shows the kind of corruption we have in local democratic politics. I am a Democrat, but I am ashamed of these Democrats who are giving the party a bad name and

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Kalani W: forcing people to vote for for extremes like trump.

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Kalani W: We need to clean up our house as it. And what baffles me is that once again Bonnan is at the center of the most recent corruption in downtown. La. So, in my opinion, they all need to go, and we need some new blood down there who believes in ethics and honesty. Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Colony.

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And if

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Daffodil Tyminski: um

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Daffodil Tyminski: Elizabeth Williams go ahead and Colon, if you could take your hand down that'd be great.

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Elizabeth Williams: Uh, yeah, hi! Hi! First I'd like to say uh hello and thank you. Everyone for the work and time you spend um for our community. Um! I live uh on Flower Avenue in the seven hundred block. I've lived in my home for twenty-two years, and I've lived in Venice

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Elizabeth Williams: bordering rose uh since the mid eighties, and I have to say that we are in crisis. I am

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Elizabeth Williams: mentally exhausted. I have

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Elizabeth Williams: just reached a limit, and uh, like Daniel Legate, said my neighbor across the street, we are pleading for help. I only have twenty-five seconds, so I won't go too deeply into it. But i'll give you one example. We had a large fire the same day of the canal fire, which was a tragedy

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Elizabeth Williams: unspeakable. Um! That was very scary. We had a dead body on the sidewalk uh suspected overdose in the middle of the sidewalk. On Saturday the eighth, we had a gunpoint robbery at Cbs on the twelfth. This is a small example of what is happening

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Elizabeth Williams: almost every day of my life here, and um

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Elizabeth Williams: uh, i'm out of time, so I will stop myself. But we we need assistance. We need attention. We need help.

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Thank you, Elizabeth.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um sorry. Hold on here, Elizabeth, and and by the way, Elizabeth and um

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Daffodil Tyminski: Daniel, just follow up with us after the meeting

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um was right. Go ahead.

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Elizabeth Wright: Hello,

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Daffodil Tyminski: Chris!

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Elizabeth Wright: I think you have to. I I did It didn't take the first time I clicked. Okay, that's all right. It's my standard safety pitch about

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Elizabeth Wright: cyclists and pedestrians at night.

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Elizabeth Wright: Ah, it's just a little after seven. It's already dark,

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Elizabeth Wright: Please, please. Please. We're very like clothing. If you have a bicycle where lights on the bicycle that can be seen.

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Elizabeth Wright: Ah! After talking about this for years, couple of years ago, I saw one incident. The cyclist was not visible until he got underneath the street light, and there was not a thing the driver could do

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Elizabeth Wright: Uh! The cyclist was taken away

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Elizabeth Wright: unconscious in the ambulance.

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Elizabeth Wright: Please don't let it happen to you.

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Elizabeth Wright: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. Liz.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um ly Omaris.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead, Lionel,

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Lionel Mares: reading about a lot The news

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Lionel Mares: about Dennis what's going on with the homelessness, housing crisis.

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Lionel Mares: And quite frankly, I also have that issue in my council district. I just want the whole city of Los Angeles to work together this back and forth. Argument, argument, um between activists and and and people from Venice arguing to it. It's too much. It has to stop.

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Lionel Mares: Everyone needs to work on what we could agree on and find solutions, because our city is in crisis, and and as i'm an activist myself. I'm. A friendly activist, and I try to work and find solutions. I try to use my knowledge in sociology, criminology, public administration, public sector management,

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Lionel Mares: and to help others because I care about my community. I've lived here all my life, and now as a time to work together, because I want a new City council that worked for all of us,

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Lionel Mares: and I'm. Sick of the status quo

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Lionel Mares: It has to change. I want positive changes. Okay, we will have to work together, Please, please. Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um, Helen Fallon, go go go ahead on

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Helen Fallon: um. Yes, Hi! Um! I'd like to remind everybody that when we're talking about elections. We also need to be talking about the upcoming Venice

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Helen Fallon: Neighborhood Council election, and that, as Freddie mentioned, we're candidates are going to be starting to file next November. Other councils have already have their information in place to go out to voters and to out to the households in their neighborhood. We've done nothing.

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Helen Fallon: We do have um. Someone who volunteered on the outreach committee who has put together a whole package of timeline, et cetera. And what needs to be done. But nothing has happened,

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Helen Fallon: and I don't know we're going to be in a position of

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Helen Fallon: no one's gonna know that there's a candidacy filing deadlines. And when to file, because it all happens, starts next month.

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Helen Fallon: Someone your you guys as a council need to get

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Helen Fallon: to outreach and get them moving. Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. Helen.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um, Rebecca Kramer.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead, Rebecca.

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Rebecca Kramer: Hi! Can you hear me? Yes, hi um between uh this is super super local. But on,

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Rebecca Kramer: let's see on Main Street between, like the liquor Store and Venice Dog Park. For months it smelled kind of overwhelmingly like shit for months. It's a bit hard to take

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Rebecca Kramer: uh. The other thing is um Venice dog Park itself, you know. There's the small dog section right

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Rebecca Kramer: There's okay, And you know there are benches in front of the senior center that's been used. Do you know that? Does anyone know what I mean?

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Rebecca Kramer: Yes, we know what you mean. Okay, Great?

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Rebecca Kramer: Okay. Those benches are where drug dealers hang out. They're shaped like dog boats. Why not put them in the dog Park itself, Where the dogs are? There's no place to sit in the small dog side. It'd be a lot better to be there than have been a drug. Hang out. Yeah,

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Daffodil Tyminski: okay, Thank you, Rebecca.

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Rebecca Kramer: Thank you.

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Thanks,

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Daffodil Tyminski: um, Isaac Bra.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Uh sorry, I said. Go ahead,

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Isaac Cabrera: all right. Thank you. Um. I just wanted to call into about the flower encampment. I own a property on that block. Um! Very close to where the encampment is.

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Isaac Cabrera: I just want to say how devastating it is, and how actually just disappoint. I am with our city, our representatives, and the lack of accountability in the lack of of understanding that they've had for what we've gone through and continue to go through.

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Isaac Cabrera: This is cost my wife. We're we're small time. Landlords is our only property, and we were living there with our our small child. We had people hopping our fences daily. My wife and she was nine months pregnant, walked out. There's somebody with a bottle of pills asleep on our front porch. We've had to spend tens of thousands of dollars

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Isaac Cabrera: investing in security fences. To do this we've had people skill our packages and walk straight into the encampment.

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Isaac Cabrera: Um! Had people harassed us verbally, threatens to kill you when you walk out your front door. Just kind of a really a a nasty set of things that have happened in their neighborhood. I called Bonn's office. He's told me to be. They told me to be more empathetic to the situation, and so there's nothing that they can do so. I'm just very disappointed, and I feel like we're not getting supported, and we at the same time try to do the right thing in the community.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Isaac.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um. The next person identifies as M.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um. Go ahead. You can talk.

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M: Okay, I I just put a pretzel in my mouth. Um!

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M: I I also live on Flower Avenue. My name is Melinda Mansell. Um.

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M: I've lived here for many years, and um the homeless situation has gotten to the point where

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M: I'm. Terrified. They're going to burn down the neighborhood. I've called the the Fire Department numerous times when I've seen that they are actually just having fires and their shanties at the end of our street. There have been more than one time when there was a big fire, but there was a big fire, very big fire recently that was already mentioned.

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M: Um! I walk out my back A, and there are literally bodies lying there of people humans that are in various states of drug use. Um, I can't. I literally can't exit my own property without stepping over bodies

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M: periodically. Um it the other day. I couldn't come home to my home because the street was closed off. I found out, because there was a dead, a corpse lying across the street from my house, probably from the homeless encampment. Um, probably a drug overdose. Um! I have a five year old and an eight year old,

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M: and i'm expected to conduct like any sort of like life. We drive down the street for me to take them to school, and I literally see people with their pants down, dedicating on the sidewalk in front of my children.

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M: Um, this is um untenable, these people. This is a health and safety hazard for my family, for my whole community. Um,

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M: you know I I I've had so many problems here. I don't feel safe living here. I can't walk out of my house. I can't walk my dogs on on the street. I literally can't even go down to Lincoln on my street because i'm scared I might be stabbed to death.

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M: Um. I see people doing drug deals in front of my house. I see coffee all the time.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We understand we get it. We have to limit everyone's time

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Daffodil Tyminski: understood. Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um. Christopher Nelson,

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

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Christopher Nelson: There we go. Uh, yes, you get to hear about Flower Avenue some more. I'm on the six hundred block, which is the next block down. Um! I've lived here for twenty-six years. I'm a property owner. I have tenants who are talking about leaving because of this situation.

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Christopher Nelson: Uh, they have now migrated back and forth from the seven hundred block to a house, as Daniel or Elizabeth mentioned. Six, five, seven flower uh they're doing drugs. A man was arrested there with a gun recently. There's been several fires uh the owner of the property tells us to go talk to Bonn or uh, you know it's useless.

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01:27:37.450 --> 01:27:43.589
Christopher Nelson: Uh, we have talked to the city attorney representing our area. Her hands are tied until the city does something

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01:27:43.710 --> 01:27:55.490
Christopher Nelson: uh the ordinance. I can't remember um. It's just one thing after another. Uh my poor neighbors on either side one seventy-five years old. She she fears for her life. This is ridiculous

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Christopher Nelson: uh the city has not helped us. Um it's uh, you know I I've been these tenants over this I don't I I you know twenty-six years through gang banging drugs and and everything else I've seen. This is This is ridic this is the most hazard thing I've seen since I've lived here,

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Daffodil Tyminski: and our last caller with this will close public comment is, Call in user Number three.

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01:28:29.250 --> 01:28:30.769
Daffodil Tyminski: Call on user three

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Daffodil Tyminski: going once,

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Daffodil Tyminski: Hey, Mary. Hello, Good! Yes, we can hear you.

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Call-In User_3: Okay, Good. Um, Hi. My name is Ruth. Um. In July I was attending Marvista Community Council when so my gave a public comment, saying that they were me, and I believe it was solid that, and she was using the opportunity to slander. Um! Bravo, Mike! Bravo,

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01:28:58.940 --> 01:29:14.110
Call-In User_3: um! As somebody that was member of the public, but it was really a board member, Sola dead, breaking the rules of conduct, and I just wanted to make it clear. I I haven't gotten a chance to comment to you guys myself,

639
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Call-In User_3: but that it's really really, really unprofessional and horrible, that a person who is on your board would silence a homeless person, and then imitate them to your your board. So we just take action and discipline her. I've been in touch with Empower L. A. They have not been responsive. Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

641
01:29:35.120 --> 01:29:37.320
Daffodil Tyminski: Um. With that we're closing public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry if I yeah,

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Daffodil Tyminski: I would say to the flower folks while Jim might, before you come on, reach out to us. I'm. Vp. At Venice and C. Org.

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01:29:50.800 --> 01:30:00.969
jim murez: Yeah, I I I think I think we probably need to to find out what we can do to help the Adrian acostas. I believe the uh,

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jim murez: the senior lead for that area, and maybe we should try and put together some kind of a meeting, working on it a little bit, and we'll get more into it as time goes off. Uh J. You have your hand up. Go ahead.

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01:30:15.580 --> 01:30:22.229
Jay Handal: J: You have your hand up. Did you want to say something about this? Yeah. Well, yeah, about public comment,

647
01:30:22.270 --> 01:30:27.769
Jay Handal: that last that last caller. Yes, that really concerns me,

648
01:30:28.360 --> 01:30:31.910
Jay Handal: and I would like to have Freddie, you are on the phone

649
01:30:32.220 --> 01:30:35.239
Jay Handal: or you're on the video.

650
01:30:35.720 --> 01:30:39.910
Jay Handal: They say the Department is not responsive.

651
01:30:40.010 --> 01:30:44.700
Jay Handal: I think that since it's a board member of us, it's being accused,

652
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Jay Handal: we should uh check with more vistas, see if they record their meetings and find out exactly what happened, because if it didn't happen, then it's reverse slander, and if it did happen, I think we should all be very concerned about identity, theft and

653
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Jay Handal: and misrepresentation.

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Jay Handal: So i'm gonna ask that we do something uh about that and be able to respond back in the future to the board. Hey, do you want to take that on and and do that follow up? I was thinking much of the same thing. I I wasn't going to get into it here and now, but I thought the very much along the same line you want to take on the

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jim murez: the the contacting Marvis, and find out if they record their meetings. If they do, we can probably get the transcript of it, and that and then there's also a way of going into the log files and seeing uh, who actually uh

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jim murez: logged on what kind of a

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01:31:52.150 --> 01:32:16.320
Jay Handal: um, and we'll find out if and when you know what happened if nothing happened. Clear soul, and Dad's name, or, in fact, find out if something was done. But I I will definitely look into it and report back

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Soledad Ursua: that should easily clear it up. If you can get the recording great. This is incredibly slanderous, and I think a lot of us realize that Ruth is not an Un House person we've heard or call in multiple times. So we're still dealing with all of these people who call in. We have go puppet he's using racial slurs, I mean. So I don't know if somebody is calling in as my name in other neighborhood cancels, and this is just crazy.

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01:32:39.460 --> 01:32:41.139
jim murez: Okay? Well,

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jim murez: that'll all come here. I appreciate it. Let's move on, though, Jim. Let's move on. We can deal with this offline, and that would be appreciated. Um! Can I get a motion? Oh, wait! I did not go back. Did I go back and and check in? Uh,

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01:32:57.120 --> 01:33:05.370
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah, So has Zachary shown up, or or uh Bruno.

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01:33:06.760 --> 01:33:08.019
jim murez: Um!

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I forgot to. We can find it at some point.

664
01:33:14.130 --> 01:33:24.089
jim murez: Let's go ahead now, and if I could get somebody to make a motion to approve. The

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jim murez: and second was Daffodil

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01:33:27.680 --> 01:33:31.019
Daffodil Tyminski: or Cj.

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jim murez: Did we have any public comment on this item? Jay, Can you drop your hand, please?

668
01:33:41.630 --> 01:33:42.740
Daffodil Tyminski: No,

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jim murez: Okay. Um Did we have any uh board discussion about it?

670
01:33:52.460 --> 01:33:58.000
jim murez: Seeing no hands go up. I'm going to call for the vote. I'm going to vote. Yes,

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01:33:58.880 --> 01:34:04.709
jim murez: Daffodil, i'm upstating. I wasn't here last month. Okay, Melissa

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01:34:07.670 --> 01:34:10.760
melissadiner: J. Yes,

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01:34:11.830 --> 01:34:13.639
jim murez: Vicki

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melissadiner: Alyssa was at you. That said, Yes,

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01:34:19.380 --> 01:34:20.849
jim murez: um,

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01:34:23.020 --> 01:34:24.230
jim murez: Sima.

677
01:34:26.050 --> 01:34:27.219
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes,

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01:34:27.620 --> 01:34:29.559
jim murez: thank you, Nico.

679
01:34:30.100 --> 01:34:31.300
Nico Ruderman: Yes,

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01:34:31.580 --> 01:34:33.850
Jim Robb: Jim. Rob. Yes,

681
01:34:34.090 --> 01:34:36.100
Jason Sugars: Jason, yay

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01:34:36.280 --> 01:34:37.420
jim murez: alli!

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01:34:39.860 --> 01:34:40.940
jim murez: Hi,

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01:34:41.800 --> 01:34:42.950
Chie: yes,

685
01:34:43.710 --> 01:34:44.849
jim murez: Mike.

686
01:34:45.210 --> 01:34:50.690
jim murez: Yes,

687
01:34:50.910 --> 01:34:52.190
jim murez: Elizabeth.

688
01:34:56.640 --> 01:34:57.730
robertthibodeau: Yes,

689
01:34:57.990 --> 01:34:59.070
jim murez: Clark,

690
01:35:04.390 --> 01:35:05.400
Michael: yes,

691
01:35:06.210 --> 01:35:10.199
jim murez: and let me go back. Um ally.

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01:35:12.940 --> 01:35:16.310
Daffodil Tyminski: She's here. Um!

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01:35:17.590 --> 01:35:24.880
jim murez: She's in the attendees. I think she's just having a hard time speaking.

694
01:35:28.080 --> 01:35:29.820
jim murez: Oh, you had it for a second.

695
01:35:29.930 --> 01:35:33.159
jim murez: There you go! How are you voting, Clark? Oh, yes,

696
01:35:33.220 --> 01:35:34.440
thank you.

697
01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:36.990
jim murez: And did Alley Show up

698
01:35:37.940 --> 01:35:39.669
jim murez: Last Chance Alley.

699
01:35:40.170 --> 01:35:44.389
jim murez: Okay, uh the motion carries one thousand five hundred and two.

700
01:35:44.510 --> 01:35:49.240
jim murez: Um. Now we're on to new business.

701
01:35:49.270 --> 01:35:50.849
jim murez: Um.

702
01:35:51.410 --> 01:36:00.469
jim murez: The motion is for the Vnc. To participate in the Eleventh Annual, Venice holiday sign lighting. I'll move it.

703
01:36:00.570 --> 01:36:03.269
robertthibodeau: Thank you. Jay. Second:

704
01:36:04.610 --> 01:36:06.139
jim murez: thank you, Robert

705
01:36:09.130 --> 01:36:12.569
jim murez: Um Daffodil. Do we have any public comment.

706
01:36:13.090 --> 01:36:26.020
Daffodil Tyminski: Hold on one second. Um sorry Bruno has been trying to get on. I didn't realize he was having trouble with the link. Um, Do we have public comment. Yes, we do, Helen Helen Fallon. Go ahead.

707
01:36:28.320 --> 01:36:46.299
Helen Fallon: Um, yes, I believe before you vote on this it should be clarified. Is this a tabling event, or we sponsoring something, because later on the agenda, there's a substantial amount of money which represents over ten percent of our budget to be spent on this. So what exactly is our status in this event?

708
01:36:47.020 --> 01:36:56.589
Helen Fallon: My understanding is the Chamber of Commerce event. But how? What? I'd like to know exactly what our participation is going to be before you vote to participate. Thank you.

709
01:36:58.800 --> 01:37:11.829
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, hold on. I'm. Jim promoting Bruno to be a panelist and then let me know if we have any other speakers, we do. Uh! We have one more Erica more with Erica. We'll close public comment. Um Erica, Go ahead,

710
01:37:18.370 --> 01:37:37.019
Erica Moore: Erica. You have to unmute. There we go. Sorry the button wasn't shown. Um, Okay. I just wanted to say that I had a great time with that event last year, and I hope we do participate again. I do think Helen's right There should be an accounting of what exactly is happening, but one of the things I believe is happening that i'm excited about is you guys do the Santa Booth.

711
01:37:37.030 --> 01:37:54.939
Erica Moore: I got to sit on there with my puppies and get my photo with Santa, and I was very still through that. So, Um, I know that I think you guys do a few other things and um, that's it. So I think it's a fun community event, and I hope there could be a way to participate. That will give you more visibility and

712
01:37:54.950 --> 01:38:06.329
Erica Moore: invite more stakeholders to get involved and show them how to get involved, so that they can participate more in this process and participate in our neighborhood coming together. Thank you.

713
01:38:07.240 --> 01:38:08.580
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks. Erica.

714
01:38:08.940 --> 01:38:10.080
Daffodil Tyminski: Um,

715
01:38:10.240 --> 01:38:12.889
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Jim, Public comments close. We can move on.

716
01:38:13.190 --> 01:38:16.839
jim murez: Okay. Public comment is closed. Do we have any uh

717
01:38:17.080 --> 01:38:36.819
CJ Cole: more comments? Cj: You have your hand up. Let's see. You have your hand up. I'll start with Cj. Cj: Go ahead. Um, yes, um. I can send my video on um. So uh I totally agree with um Erica. Uh! I'm gonna bring this up when we get to the actual budget item side.

718
01:38:36.830 --> 01:38:55.010
CJ Cole: But there was no there. There is no planning at all. With this uh the committee did nothing. They didn't look at a budget. They didn't come up with anything they wanted to do. It just came out of the clear blue sky literally minutes before the uh. Add comment,

719
01:38:55.020 --> 01:38:57.640
CJ Cole: Um, so. But I agree that

720
01:38:57.760 --> 01:39:05.109
CJ Cole: conceptually it's good. I just don't think what they do is the best thing we could spend our money on. Thank you.

721
01:39:05.710 --> 01:39:09.789
jim murez: Thank you. Cj. Melissa. Um, you have your hand up

722
01:39:10.260 --> 01:39:20.280
melissadiner: uh yeah, Number Fifteen outlines everything on this item. I believe if you just scroll down for the people that just made all those comments. Thanks.

723
01:39:20.400 --> 01:39:35.860
jim murez: Okay, Yeah, we're not. We're gonna stick with the item at hand. We'll get to the next item, but that describes what was brought up. I just wanted to make sure they're clear it was published, and they've all then had the opportunity to speak on it. So we're going to get there. We just not there yet.

724
01:39:35.990 --> 01:39:41.510
jim murez: Um, i'm going to take the hand raising out of order. Um! I'll let.

725
01:39:41.580 --> 01:39:57.869
Vicki Halliday: I would just like to say that we've done this event for many years, and that it's even in question. Um! It's just indicative of the

726
01:39:58.230 --> 01:40:00.179
Vicki Halliday: and

727
01:40:00.660 --> 01:40:18.920
Vicki Halliday: the the inviting that's going on in Venice and in this organization this is a phone event. It's a great event. We'll work out the money when we get to the motion, but the budget is not out of line. That I see um, you know. Let's just move forward and have one event. That's fun.

728
01:40:18.950 --> 01:40:20.000
Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

729
01:40:20.650 --> 01:40:22.320
jim murez: Thank you. Um

730
01:40:23.330 --> 01:40:28.540
jim murez: hands are jumping around, Mike. You had your hand up, but I guess you dropped it again.

731
01:40:29.110 --> 01:40:37.119
jim murez: Thank you. Um, We want to keep the meeting going. See? My! You can make it short. That'd be great. We'll get. We'll, you know. Take your time. Go ahead. You got your hand up.

732
01:40:37.510 --> 01:40:56.849
Sima Kostovetsky: Um. I would just like to say that this is the biggest community stakeholder event for the neighborhood. It is local Venice, and we got over five thousand people last year, even when we did it on Zoom. Two years ago we had over three thousand people attending this event.

733
01:40:56.860 --> 01:41:10.649
Sima Kostovetsky: I'm the outreach chair. My job is to spread the knowledge of who we are as the Vmc. Why would I not want to participate in this event, it exposes us to thousands of stakeholders.

734
01:41:10.660 --> 01:41:23.379
Sima Kostovetsky: We also have the highest engagement and numbers on social media of any neighborhood council on the West side, perhaps even in the city, and it is because we do things like this.

735
01:41:23.390 --> 01:41:48.850
Sima Kostovetsky: All I want to do, and all this event does is we spread good cheer. We celebrate the holiday season. We give out holiday candy and cookies. We give out light up toys to kids, and we have a Santa booth it's what holidays are about. Thank you, Vicki. But it's it's a no-brainer we have presence here. We're one of five government organizations cd eleven used to sponsor this.

736
01:41:48.860 --> 01:42:01.509
Sima Kostovetsky: So it's, and frankly, the Chamber of Commerce is our stakeholder, so we should support them. So I really urge the Board members to support this, and I urge our community to come out and enjoy.

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01:42:02.020 --> 01:42:06.700
jim murez: Thanks. I'm going to go ahead now and call for the vote.

738
01:42:06.900 --> 01:42:09.689
jim murez: Um! I see no additional hands. Um

739
01:42:10.390 --> 01:42:13.220
Daffodil Tyminski: daffodil. How do you vote?

740
01:42:14.370 --> 01:42:16.210
melissadiner: Melissa

741
01:42:16.510 --> 01:42:20.689
Jay Handal: Jay? Absolutely, Vicki. Yes.

742
01:42:22.920 --> 01:42:30.740
jim murez: When I was here, Jim, by the way, too. All right, i'll I'll come. I'll come back to see my go ahead.

743
01:42:30.820 --> 01:42:31.910
jim murez: Nico.

744
01:42:33.680 --> 01:42:37.580
Jim Robb: Yes, him Rob. Yes,

745
01:42:38.030 --> 01:42:40.160
Jason Sugars: Jason. Yes,

746
01:42:40.480 --> 01:42:41.590
jim murez: Allie

747
01:42:41.760 --> 01:42:45.349
Daffodil Tyminski: um ally's having trouble speaking, but she texted me Yes,

748
01:42:45.380 --> 01:42:48.460
jim murez: I can't do that. Uh Kai.

749
01:42:49.890 --> 01:42:51.040
Chie: Yes,

750
01:42:51.450 --> 01:42:52.460
jim murez: Mike.

751
01:42:52.620 --> 01:42:53.710
Mike Bravo: Yes,

752
01:42:54.110 --> 01:42:58.540
jim murez: solid. Add

753
01:42:58.670 --> 01:42:59.889
jim murez: Elizabeth.

754
01:42:59.930 --> 01:43:02.400
elizabeth clay: Yes, Robert,

755
01:43:03.420 --> 01:43:04.500
robertthibodeau: yes,

756
01:43:04.570 --> 01:43:06.330
jim murez: Park. Yes,

757
01:43:06.830 --> 01:43:08.090
jim murez: nickel.

758
01:43:08.290 --> 01:43:09.280
Michael: Yes,

759
01:43:10.020 --> 01:43:13.760
jim murez: Let me go back now and log in Bruno.

760
01:43:16.520 --> 01:43:19.000
jim murez: So now you're now again.

761
01:43:20.080 --> 01:43:21.370
Bruno Hernandez: Yes,

762
01:43:21.390 --> 01:43:25.229
jim murez: hold on one second. I gotta refresh this,

763
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jim murez: and you are a Yes, So thank you. And i'm going to also vote. Yes,

764
01:43:31.070 --> 01:43:33.010
jim murez: um ally. Are you there.

765
01:43:34.490 --> 01:43:37.850
jim murez: Okay, So the vote carries one thousand eight hundred and zero

766
01:43:39.470 --> 01:43:47.160
jim murez: Um, moving right along. Let me just time this real quick seven hundred and thirty-four

767
01:43:47.840 --> 01:43:49.030
jim murez: um

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jim murez: treasures. Report.

769
01:43:53.870 --> 01:43:55.560
jim murez: J: You have the floor.

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01:43:55.690 --> 01:44:12.999
Jay Handal: Yeah. So you see, the printed treasurer report. I just have an addition that I got today, and that is on the roll over funds that still Don't show in this number from the website of the city clerk uh the city is still doing its final order, year end auditing,

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01:44:13.010 --> 01:44:27.770
Jay Handal: and as soon as it's finished the money will be put into our account uh the ten thousand dollar roll over, so that's gonna be. That's gonna be ten thousand dollars on top of the budget amount of thirty, two that you see there, and

772
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Jay Handal: that's how we come up with uh the total in the election budget of fifteen thousand dollars. It was approved by the board. Thank you.

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01:44:44.160 --> 01:44:45.340
jim murez: Um.

774
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jim murez: Now let's go on to Item Number fifteen uh the Eleventh annual Venice holiday signed lighting um. This was an item that was uh submitted by the Budget and Finance Committee. Um! I didn't have the vote at the time. Jay, do you recall what the vote was? Five? One.

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01:45:05.960 --> 01:45:11.740
jim murez: So it was five, one whoops five, one

776
01:45:11.930 --> 01:45:13.230
jim murez: zero,

777
01:45:13.330 --> 01:45:15.720
Daffodil Tyminski: that wasn't it? Five

778
01:45:16.320 --> 01:45:17.830
Daffodil Tyminski: zero, One.

779
01:45:18.240 --> 01:45:25.140
Jay Handal: Yeah, I think that that's correct. It might have been Yeah, I think i'm not sure, Helen's. I think there was one extension.

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01:45:25.210 --> 01:45:44.859
Vicki Halliday: No, there was one. No? Okay? Yeah, that was one, though. Um, Jim, very quickly. I have to recuse on this because of the line item on advertising. Okay, So I will be turning off my camera. So, Jim uh, in an effort, hold on one second

781
01:45:44.930 --> 01:45:45.920
um!

782
01:45:46.760 --> 01:45:54.510
jim murez: We need to make the motion and seconded.

783
01:45:54.710 --> 01:46:00.930
Jay Handal: So Vicki has to recuse herself, or she is recusing herself on Item number two.

784
01:46:01.170 --> 01:46:04.820
jim murez: Yeah. Why give her one second to kill her camera?

785
01:46:05.190 --> 01:46:14.259
Jay Handal: Well, what i'm asking is to bifurcate number two as a separate motion, so she can vote on the rest of the items, and

786
01:46:14.270 --> 01:46:28.269
melissadiner: and then she can recuse the cell phone. Item Number two

787
01:46:30.240 --> 01:46:33.670
jim murez: Um, J. It does make it a lot more complicated.

788
01:46:34.440 --> 01:46:51.609
jim murez: Okay. So then, Vicki needs to recuse herself from the entire item. She already agreed to do that. That's That's not a problem. But it's an interesting. It's a different. We'll talk later about that. We'll all move the item. Yeah, okay,

789
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jim murez: Thank you. Melissa.

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J. And

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01:47:00.330 --> 01:47:04.630
jim murez: listen. There we go. Um, Okay, Do we have any public comment?

792
01:47:04.860 --> 01:47:06.079
Daffodil Tyminski: We do, Jim.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um, uh, Nick Anton, cello. Go ahead.

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Nick Antonicello: And all the items that are being appropriated today with the same exact items that were appropriated ten years ago.

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Nick Antonicello: Nothing new and different here. Santa Claus Ivan does it as a volunteer. His pepper actually takes the pictures. We have some shotsky items that we hand out to the kids.

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Nick Antonicello: It's a very nice evening. I don't know why this is being turned into some vile, corrupt action that we're taking.

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Nick Antonicello: It's just ridiculous.

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Nick Antonicello: This city spends twelve billion dollars a year of which had to make it pissed away on who knows what and we're spending what? Thirty two thousand dollars, which equates to thirty-two cents out of a twelve billion dollars budget.

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Nick Antonicello: I mean, stop bending over for the penny while the dow is the flying over your head.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry I'm muted there. Uh thank you, Nick.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um Lisa Redmond, go ahead!

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Daffodil Tyminski: And with Lisa. By the way, we'll close public comment.

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Lisa Redmond: Um,

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Lisa Redmond: Unlike people who are painting me as a naser and trying to create drama. Uh i'm not against this event. I'm not again spending a large amount of money on on a really significant good event. I'm just upset

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Lisa Redmond: because one this wasn't open to the public in committee to discuss the budget, and we have a lot of problems with the way the budget is one. Why are we spending money on advertising someone else's event

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Lisa Redmond: and two. You can't advertise someone else's event because it's not a city sponsored event. That's part of the city finance guidelines. You all have taken that most of you have taken the Finance Ethics. Course you know better. Next,

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Lisa Redmond: Why are we spending eight hundred and fifty dollars for treats and candy on Amazon? Why, Aren't, we spending it within a local person? Uh, why not a local bakery, Even if we go to smart and final? Then we're supporting a local business and employees that have lived locally

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Lisa Redmond: and send it back to committee for the public to feed into this.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Jeff.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Jim.

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jim murez: Yeah, Are there any other hands up.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um, yes, there's Helen Fallon's hand up, but it wasn't up when I closed up a comment. So I leave it up to you.

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jim murez: Yeah, I think. Let's let her. Let's let her have her

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per minutes worth.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Go ahead, Helen.

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Helen Fallon: I would echo um lisa's, comments. I'm not objecting to this, and I don't appreciate some of the snarky remarks that are being made, and Melissa apparently doesn't understand the difference in a tabling event and a sponsored event. Are you going to be filing an event?

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Helen Fallon: And do you have a contract with the photographer? The numbers change significantly. You don't even have a contract with them. It's just very confusing. And why are you advertising

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Helen Fallon: mit Ctl and six hundred dollars? You're spending six hundred dollars on something. That is the Chambers event. They're doing the advertising. We don't need to be advertising this. The amount of money we're spending per person on these one hundred and fifty

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Helen Fallon: giveaways is excessive. It's not just candy. We're giving around four dollar items out to people items of four dollars, which is beyond the level that the city wants you to do for little free. These

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Helen Fallon: uh it. It should have been heard in committee. It wasn't heard in committee. It it's not supposed to come to budget until it is heard in the committee. This is irregular, and it should have been. It should follow the process you committed to a process, and for and make it do it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Helen.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. So with that we will. If you could lower your hand, Helen, that'd be great. Um! We will close public comment.

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jim murez: So we have some hands up, but Jay, because it's a budget item. I'm going to call on you last. You'll be able to

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jim murez: close up everything. Um, I see Daffodils, Mikes and Cjs take them in that order that they go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I would just point out again, as we've said before, that this is just a fantastic event that we've participated in, as Nick said substantially the exact same way for many, many years, except, I think Sima's done a pretty good job this time of getting the cost down.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So um I i'm with Nick. I can't even imagine why we are fighting this. These are the same things that we approve last year. Um, we're just improving on what we did last year, and if this needs to really be discussed again and again, Um, I fear for us ever being able to get anything done at all in this council.

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Mike Bravo: Thank you, Daffodil. Mike, Your hands up, go ahead

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Mike Bravo: and Helen, and because a lot of times. This comes off last time like we're subsidizing the Venice Chamber, and it's not so much about that, but

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Mike Bravo: I know we want to do things better. But there's a lot.

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Mike Bravo: There are things we can do a lot better here next time, you know. So just I wanna

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Mike Bravo: just create that awareness. Let's, you know, really turn up, you know, invest in kind of

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Mike Bravo: resource, local community next time, and

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Mike Bravo: at the same time I just I don't know just kind of shopping it up a little bit, and that's like no respect to anybody, but it can definitely

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Mike Bravo: a little more transparent, and do feel more thorough about how to go about doing these offense with this much money.

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That's about it.

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jim murez: Thank you. Mike Cj: Go ahead.

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CJ Cole: Okay, I am not against this at all I I I helped last year. I think the event is great. I just think that it should have been brought up in committee as a budget, I do think, agreeing with

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CJ Cole: uh comments earlier from Erica, that there could be other things we spend our money on. There is not one handout that says anything about the Neighborhood Council.

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CJ Cole: There's nothing that sells us as a Neighborhood Council, and i'm sorry. But that's where I have a problem. It's in the budget not in participating with it.

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CJ Cole: Uh, you know I think it's a great event. It's just. I think we need to spend a little time thinking about how to spend four thousand dollars. Thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you. Uh, Michael, Go ahead.

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Michael: Dj: Put your hand down, please. Mikhail, you. Yeah. So my um, my comment would just. Is there anything that requires us to buy these things from Amazon versus somewhere local? I think that's a that's a good point.

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Michael: Um, uh, but other than that. I think this is. Uh, you know we have done this for years in my memory. Um, as far as I can remember, living here. Um, and so I support it. But uh, yeah, I would. I would love to be able to to buy as much locally as possible. Thanks,

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jim murez: Thank you. Uh, Melissa. I see your hands up. Go ahead, please,

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jim murez: Melissa, Did you want to speak? You have to unmute?

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melissadiner: Yeah, just this is just for Jay, and you can email me directly later when you have time. But I just want to know if i'm missing something, and how thirteen and fifteen aren't connected, because I always want to try and learn and do better. Thank you.

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jim murez: Okay, Thank you. Lower your hand. That would be doing better, helpful.

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jim murez: Thank you. Um.

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jim murez: Okay, I see Sima's hand is up. Uh, because this is uh something that that uh outreach is going to be taking on um. You want to go ahead and speak, and then i'll let Jay address any final uh budgetary or finance issues that that uh,

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jim murez: anybody may still have questions about.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I did just want to address the local issue we are sourcing locally this year. We took

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Sima Kostovetsky: um many of our community comments to heart, and we have so many wonderful resources. That's why Venice Paparazzi has always been a part of this. We are going out to somebody local to make the treat very, very generous of them, so the holiday treats will be provided by someone here in the community.

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Sima Kostovetsky: We are also local, with our platinum prop rentals, their Cd. Eleven Company. There are no prop houses in Venice. So just want to clarify that. And

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Sima Kostovetsky: you know the other stuff, unfortunately, has to come from companies that are dot com because I have a budget. And frankly, this is eight percent of our yearly budget,

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Sima Kostovetsky: and it's December. So I don't think i'm being a spendthrift, I think these are legitimate. And if you look at every line item which I provided

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Sima Kostovetsky: there, and i'll let Jay deal with that

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jim murez: um Can I just have you clarify one thing. Item Number one is promotional items

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Sima Kostovetsky: in the previous years. I believe those promotional items did carry the Vnc. They are their Vnc. Branded. I've once again provided in my invoices, the our logo, and we now have a banner that we bring with a scan code. So we have even more of a presence, and The reason why I advertise is because we promote the uh toy drives.

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jim murez: At one point there's a comment that somebody made. I wanted to make sure that everybody was aware that. Thank you. And and you, I think last year you you use Qr. Codes on some of it, right?

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jim murez: And that Qr. Code then took them to the events page on the Vnc's website. I assume you'll do that again,

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Jay Handal: and that's a Yes, you're shaking your head. Yes, yes, yes, let's let's finish this. If you could put your hand down. Jay, do you want to go ahead, please? Yeah, thank you. Well, first of all, I wanted to say thank you to Sima for pulling this all together so quickly, because,

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Jay Handal: knowing what I know about this event, this event could have gone by the wayside, and it would have been one more lost opportunity for the Neighborhood Council.

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Jay Handal: The items will all be identified that's required, so it'll have the Venice Neighborhood Council or go on information on it. So anybody who says it has nothing, please, before talking about something that you don't have the information on It's better to ask the question than to a queue

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Jay Handal: in a question. It it's much more productive.

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Jay Handal: Today. Invoices were secured on the majority of these items. I personally had a conference call with Seema and the people from Venice Paparazzi,

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Jay Handal: and we do have an invoice, a letter from them now. Finally, uh, and that whole packet we will get to uh, to Jim to post. Uh, uh, so we have. We have invoices on everything except for the media

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Jay Handal: to address the issue of the media

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Jay Handal: um My conversation with with uh Melvin today

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Jay Handal: at um

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Jay Handal: the City clerk's office.

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Jay Handal: This is a tabling

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Jay Handal: situation. This is not in a vent for the Neighborhood Council.

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Jay Handal: We are, We are being asked to participate in a community event,

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Jay Handal: and quite frankly, one of the big big opportunities here at that table is election outreach.

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Jay Handal: We're in the election cycle, guys. Okay? And right now we don't have an election committee. We don't have an election administrator. We don't have anything other than um a plan that's out there that needs to be approved with a a committee to run it.

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Jay Handal: So having said that as the budget chair, and as the treasurer,

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Jay Handal: I see this tabling opportunity is a great opportunity for all the Neighborhood Council members to go out there. Be by that table. You can't campaign. You can't use it as a candidate.

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Jay Handal: You have to use it as an elected official of the Neighborhood Council to promote the Neighborhood Council and all the good we do like listening to all the people from Flower

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Jay Handal: talk about. We need help, help us.

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jim murez: So I think I think I think we're ready to vote at this point.

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Jay Handal: Yeah, yeah. And and just the last point is, yes, there is a local baker who has committed to do things. So I I would urge everybody to move this forward. I just want to clarify that the problems that we have last year without without having sent in the forms thirty days prior that you're taking care of that as well. So

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jim murez: that correct? Well, okay, that's part of the reason that it's being voted on tonight to avoid any issues understood. I just wanted to get that on our Let's go ahead now, and and and i'm going to call for the vote.

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jim murez: Um

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jim murez: Daffodil, How do you vote?

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Yes,

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02:00:42.070 --> 02:00:43.350
Melissa.

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melissadiner: Yes.

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Jay Handal: J. Enthusiastically.

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jim murez: Is that a year or a day? That's a yay. Thank you, Vicki.

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02:00:56.220 --> 02:01:00.039
jim murez: I'm: Sorry, uh Bruno.

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Bruno Hernandez: Yeah,

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jim murez: Um, wait. Let me go back. And I think he's actually recused.

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jim murez: Um, We got Bruno. We got Sima.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Yes,

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Sima Kostovetsky: thank you. Uh Nico.

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Yes,

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jim murez: thank you. Um, Jim Rob.

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Jim Robb: Yes, yes,

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jim murez: Alli

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jim murez: Mike.

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02:01:32.900 --> 02:01:33.920
Mike Bravo: Yes.

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02:01:33.960 --> 02:01:36.150
Soledad Ursua: So let out.

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02:01:36.180 --> 02:01:38.460
CJ Cole: Cj: Yes,

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02:01:38.640 --> 02:01:41.839
elizabeth clay: Elizabeth. And emphatic. Yes,

905
02:01:42.290 --> 02:01:44.110
robertthibodeau: Robert. Yes,

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jim murez: Clark.

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jim murez: Yes, thank you.

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02:01:51.790 --> 02:01:52.780
Michael: Yes.

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jim murez: Okay. So the motion care. Oh, on myself. I'm sorry.

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02:01:56.920 --> 02:01:57.980
jim murez: Yes.

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02:01:58.130 --> 02:02:06.350
jim murez: Um. So Does that mean that all of you are going to be volunteering that evening?

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Jim Robb: I will volunteer Sima at staff.

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02:02:15.470 --> 02:02:17.219
jim murez: Okay, Um,

914
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Clark Brown: We get paid.

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jim murez: Yes, and treats. Yeah, I was saying, not not on this council moving right along. Let me time step the start of this one. Um. The next item is, uh, J: Do you want to go ahead, or do you want me to need your license? Number two?

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Jay Handal: Yeah. So the Zoom license Number two has been authorized by the city. It's a two hundred dollar fee. We already at the board had discussed it a couple of meetings back about having a second license. This reaffirms it by voting the two hundred dollars, so we can put a bac in and get it rolling.

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Jay Handal: Uh, I just want to make a point, because I've heard it in in different realms. This is not because we're going to make sure. We have two meetings going at once, and people Aren't going to be able to go to meetings. This is because,

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Jay Handal: you know, I, as as someone who has run a lot of zoom meetings from my other Neighborhood Council realized just how much work it is to be the zoom master. Okay. And Jim has to do this for every single committee,

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Jay Handal: and having two licenses, gives us the ability and the flexibility that if Jim sick Jim's out of town, Jim's unavailable, we don't have to miss a meeting. Okay, meetings can go on. So this makes all the sense in the world to have a second license,

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Jay Handal: and I would make the the motion to do it.

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jim murez: Thank you. Um! And before we get too far into this we have a motion. Do we have a second? I second it. I would love to have two zooms.

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jim murez: Okay, where's your name? I know It's in this list somewhere. There it is.

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jim murez: Um jay, just for the record. Do you recall what the vote was in committee.

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Jay Handal: Um, I don't, and I don't have it with me.

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jim murez: Let me here Thank you. Vicki um

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jim murez: daffodil. Do we have any public comment. I think i'm just

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Daffodil Tyminski: let's go ahead and take part.

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Kevin De Leon: Go ahead to honor his great service in the city.

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Kevin De Leon: Yes,

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Kevin De Leon: Well, we have a a free license available, somebody that's not needing it.

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Kevin De Leon: Why does it? Why don't you go over and get Nerdy Louisa Martinez's license, and then you can borrow it and use it and pocket the two hundred dollars.

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Kevin De Leon: Gee! That's a great idea. Yes, I think it's a good idea. I don't think she's going to be attending any meetings the rest of the year.

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Kevin De Leon: But again i'm really surprised at J. Handle.

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Kevin De Leon: This is the first mistake I've ever witnessed to me, not having that committee Vote she my J.

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Kevin De Leon: What's happening today?

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Kevin De Leon: Is he being affected emotionally by listening to those evil tapes of Nuri? Yes, get back on track. We need you. J. You're the only hope for the finances of this council.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um, Helen Fallon, go ahead.

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Helen Fallon: Yes. Well, I appreciate the promise that there won't be any simultaneous or overlapping meetings. We have deteriorated as a council into meetings, being randomly scheduled,

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Helen Fallon: often scheduled for the last minute, so I can see where there could be a problem, and I do think it would be appropriate to ensure that the wording of this motion includes something that says it is not the intent

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Helen Fallon: to ever have meetings that overlap seriously or start, you know, thirty minutes apart. So people have to decide where they're attending. If you're not going to do it. What's the harm in putting the language in there to say you're not going to do it. The fact that you're reluctant to not put that language in.

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Helen Fallon: Yeah. I wonder why? Because look at some of the chaotic meetings we've had lately meetings that happen fifteen minutes before another meeting.

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Helen Fallon: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks, Helen.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Um. Our last public comment is Erica Moore. Go ahead, Erica.

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Erica Moore: Hey? There! I just wanted to um mention that I think that there definitely should be another person that can man the zoom. But I would think it'd be the secretary. So i'm i'm just confused. Why, I don't see the secretary bringing the meetings and being present, that's always bothered me.

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Erica Moore: I'm sorry I have to bring it up again, but I think she should be on camera, and I think she should be more visible because she's really important part of this committee. Thank you administratively, you know. Thanks,

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks, Erica.

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Daffodil Tyminski: That's it, Jim. Public comments closed.

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jim murez: Thank you. So public comment is closed. Um! I will respond to uh uh,

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jim murez: one of the points that was not made clear. Actually, two of the points. First of all,

951
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jim murez: we've always had the ability to have simultaneous

952
02:08:06.340 --> 02:08:09.840
jim murez: meetings, because Freddy has made that

953
02:08:10.170 --> 02:08:25.470
jim murez: option available when it's needed. And And so, if we had to have two meetings at one time. It was always something we could have done, I believe, on one or two cases Freddie actually has started meetings for the Vnc.

954
02:08:25.480 --> 02:08:38.820
jim murez: So that shouldn't come to much of a surprise to anybody. It's not something that anybody wants to do. Clearly. We want to have one meeting at a time, but that's that's the objective, and it doesn't necessarily need to go into your and writing.

955
02:08:38.920 --> 02:08:57.609
jim murez: The other thing I wanted to mention was Um Vicki Holiday, who is our communications officer, has agreed to be the second license holder, so she'll be responsible for that license, and she will be able to relieve me of some of those duties, giving me time to attend to more presidential things.

956
02:08:57.620 --> 02:09:01.860
jim murez: Um, do we have any uh board discussion on the item,

957
02:09:03.820 --> 02:09:06.920
jim murez: seeing no hands. Let's take a vote

958
02:09:08.120 --> 02:09:09.719
jim murez: of Daffodil.

959
02:09:10.410 --> 02:09:12.039
Daffodil Tyminski: Uh yes,

960
02:09:13.370 --> 02:09:15.979
jim murez: um Melissa

961
02:09:16.410 --> 02:09:17.559
jim murez: J.

962
02:09:19.510 --> 02:09:20.580
Jay Handal: Yes,

963
02:09:22.640 --> 02:09:24.550
Vicki Halliday: Vicki. Yes,

964
02:09:24.650 --> 02:09:25.840
jim murez: Bruno.

965
02:09:25.970 --> 02:09:27.030
Bruno Hernandez: Yes,

966
02:09:27.290 --> 02:09:29.250
jim murez: um Sima.

967
02:09:29.270 --> 02:09:30.410
Sima Kostovetsky: Yes,

968
02:09:30.630 --> 02:09:31.750
jim murez: Nico

969
02:09:35.200 --> 02:09:37.369
Jim Robb: Jim Rob. Yes,

970
02:09:37.630 --> 02:09:42.809
Daffodil Tyminski: I'm sorry Nico got kicked out, and it's trying to get back in

971
02:09:42.850 --> 02:09:43.880
jim murez: Ally

972
02:09:45.260 --> 02:09:47.290
Chie: I Yes,

973
02:09:47.690 --> 02:09:48.679
jim murez: Mike.

974
02:09:49.060 --> 02:09:50.179
Yes,

975
02:09:51.140 --> 02:09:52.099
jim murez: Mike.

976
02:09:53.050 --> 02:09:57.090
jim murez: Sorry. Yes,

977
02:09:59.440 --> 02:10:01.559
elizabeth clay: Elizabeth. Yes,

978
02:10:01.910 --> 02:10:04.030
robertthibodeau: Robert. Yes,

979
02:10:04.120 --> 02:10:05.950
Clark Brown: Clark. Yes,

980
02:10:06.330 --> 02:10:07.549
jim murez: it's a

981
02:10:09.110 --> 02:10:10.650
Michael: yes,

982
02:10:11.300 --> 02:10:14.700
jim murez: and Let me go back to Nico. Are you here? Nico:

983
02:10:15.690 --> 02:10:17.470
Yeah. So no, yes.

984
02:10:17.570 --> 02:10:18.500
jim murez: Okay.

985
02:10:19.060 --> 02:10:22.090
jim murez: Um, i'm going to vote. Yes, Ally. Are you back?

986
02:10:23.410 --> 02:10:28.590
jim murez: Okay, let's uh move along. That motion carries one thousand eight hundred and zero.

987
02:10:29.410 --> 02:10:30.650
jim murez: Um

988
02:10:31.160 --> 02:10:41.309
jim murez: general consent items. We don't have any old business. We don't have any land use uh and planning committee consent items.

989
02:10:41.330 --> 02:10:42.450
jim murez: Um,

990
02:10:43.470 --> 02:10:51.629
jim murez: twenty-four East Eighteenth Avenue. Can I get somebody to make a motion on this? And then, Michael, I have you introduced The item

991
02:10:52.170 --> 02:10:57.560
Michael: I. This is on consent, Right? Oh, that's right. This is on consent. Does anybody want to take this off of consent?

992
02:10:58.710 --> 02:11:00.530
jim murez: Raise your hand now,

993
02:11:00.800 --> 02:11:04.789
jim murez: if you wish to take this one item off of consent?

994
02:11:05.090 --> 02:11:06.380
jim murez: Um,

995
02:11:07.810 --> 02:11:17.809
jim murez: creating an accessory dwelling unit over an existing garage? Do we have any hands up, Daffodil? Uh No, there's some public comment, but we wouldn't take public comment on this.

996
02:11:18.610 --> 02:11:25.929
jim murez: Hmm. And consent items. Anybody's allowed to take them off of consent, so that would include anyone in the general public.

997
02:11:26.060 --> 02:11:29.169
jim murez: We have to hear them and decide whether or not they're making a

998
02:11:29.370 --> 02:11:40.639
jim murez: rational reason for wanting us to hear this item, and if they, if they want us to hear the item, it goes to the end of our agenda. So let's go ahead and take those those individuals

999
02:11:41.740 --> 02:11:43.900
Daffodil Tyminski: go ahead. Call on user Number four.

1000
02:11:49.690 --> 02:11:51.530
Daffodil Tyminski: The call in user Number four.

1001
02:11:52.630 --> 02:12:00.990
Call-In User_4: This is Ruth. Um. I'm sorry i'm. I'm not trying to comment on the item. I'm just trying to give you my email address. So you can. We can have that discussion. Um,

1002
02:12:01.240 --> 02:12:15.439
jim murez: and it's ruthless roofs, less roofs. Are you th at Gmailcom. Thank you. That was recorded into the transcripts of the meeting. So don't be surprised if you get one hundred and fifty

1003
02:12:17.110 --> 02:12:19.319
jim murez: whatever, anyway. Um,

1004
02:12:19.550 --> 02:12:22.349
Daffodil Tyminski: next is Um, Kevin de Leon.

1005
02:12:24.190 --> 02:12:25.190
Kevin De Leon: Yeah,

1006
02:12:26.040 --> 02:12:29.840
Kevin De Leon: yes. I want to pull out of the fucking agenda.

1007
02:12:31.150 --> 02:12:49.189
Kevin De Leon: Okay? Why? Because if you could have one bastard put a house on top of a garage. You'll ruin Venice as it exists. We must scrutinize this this horrendous attempt at cheating. If you want to put an accessory dwelling unit,

1008
02:12:49.200 --> 02:13:03.909
Kevin De Leon: then tear down the fucking garage and build it correctly, not stacking it, packing just another developer chief. The only person who wants this is Kevin day, Leon.

1009
02:13:09.040 --> 02:13:10.480
Kevin De Leon: Thanks, but

1010
02:13:11.280 --> 02:13:17.870
Kevin De Leon: thank you very much. We heard what you had to say.

1011
02:13:27.150 --> 02:13:50.090
jim murez: I've in the I've the the items only over. If I just if I agree that it's being pulled for a rational reason. Okay, that's that ruling that would that's part. We've already made that it's part of our our standing rule. Okay, then that make that ruling one way or the other, asking gap as well if there's any other public comment there, there's no other public comment.

1012
02:13:50.100 --> 02:13:55.089
jim murez: So we're going to continue. And and this item is going on consent.

1013
02:13:55.370 --> 02:14:01.679
jim murez: Um, Thank you. Okay. And and and you know, if you want my rationale,

1014
02:14:02.060 --> 02:14:19.910
jim murez: the project is completely in conformance. If the person tears down the building and builds new, or they use the existing building and add on top of it, it doesn't change the fact that it's by right, and it has no bearing on whether or not it shouldn't be on consent,

1015
02:14:21.500 --> 02:14:39.240
jim murez: I have to build shit on my garage. If you continue to interrupt, I'm going to take you out of the meeting, Mr. Dele. Own your hand is not up. You haven't been called on, and if you unmute yourself and speak out loud and interrupt the meeting, I will remove you. You've now been warned.

1016
02:14:40.130 --> 02:14:49.539
jim murez: Um! We're now moving on to loopak old business. There's no loop pack. New business. There's none. We now have new business part Two.

1017
02:14:49.600 --> 02:15:07.089
Ivan: Um. Okay. I'm: sorry. What can you go back? Just announce that the the item has been approved. We can send. Calendar has been approved. I did say that, but i'll say it again. Okay, i'm sorry I didn't hear it. You said item has been approved.

1018
02:15:07.270 --> 02:15:08.330
Ivan: Okay,

1019
02:15:08.480 --> 02:15:12.920
jim murez: um. Do I need to do? I need to vote on it. I don't

1020
02:15:13.550 --> 02:15:16.079
jim murez: alright, so it's been approved.

1021
02:15:16.270 --> 02:15:17.730
jim murez: Um!

1022
02:15:18.050 --> 02:15:27.979
jim murez: So this is a request for a community impact statement. Um! And a call for City Council

1023
02:15:27.990 --> 02:15:46.629
jim murez: resignations. It was submitted by Mike. Bravo! A board member um to Adcom, and I agreed to put it on the agenda without going through committee, because we didn't have a committee that could hear it in a timely fashion, and there's a certain amount of urgency

1024
02:15:46.640 --> 02:16:02.730
jim murez: to it, and it's attached to several counsel files uh Mike. Um. Let's well before you read it. Let's go ahead and have somebody make the motion and get it seconded, and then i'll let you introduce what you I'll make the motion. Jason Sugars. Thank you, Jason.

1025
02:16:05.110 --> 02:16:08.129
Jim Robb: We get a second.

1026
02:16:08.320 --> 02:16:09.819
jim murez: Thank you, Jim

1027
02:16:12.020 --> 02:16:17.280
jim murez: and Mike. You want to go ahead and explain what's going on here.

1028
02:16:17.460 --> 02:16:27.920
Mike Bravo: Yeah. So this I mean, as you know, i'm sure we're all you know. Aware of the City Council scandal over the past week, and with Kevin de Leone and Martinez and um

1029
02:16:28.500 --> 02:16:39.799
Mike Bravo: um Giles the deal and the other labor organizer. So during that time there's been Council uh Motions Council files created to address accountability for those

1030
02:16:39.900 --> 02:16:44.139
Mike Bravo: uh issues, you know, ranging from, you know, uh censoring to um

1031
02:16:44.410 --> 02:16:46.429
Mike Bravo: the at the gerrymandering

1032
02:16:46.469 --> 02:16:47.820
Mike Bravo: and um

1033
02:16:48.469 --> 02:17:00.420
Mike Bravo: new, you know, uh, like the new Presidents and et cetera. And so these are all the Uh Council files that were pushed and created from the City Council Uh, really like the month, the Tuesday or Wednesday, after

1034
02:17:00.469 --> 02:17:03.039
Mike Bravo: those tapes or the recordings were released.

1035
02:17:03.139 --> 02:17:07.420
Mike Bravo: And there's all just basic uh accountability for um.

1036
02:17:07.450 --> 02:17:11.059
Mike Bravo: You know the reprehensible actions of uh, those three Council people.

1037
02:17:12.240 --> 02:17:31.199
Mike Bravo: So could I get you to read the motion, and then we wanted to call that Okay. So the motion is the Venice Neighborhood Council Board of Officers condemned the reprehensible events revealed to the public on October tenth, two thousand and twenty-two, which included misconduct and Races hateful statements by elected

1038
02:17:31.230 --> 02:17:36.700
Mike Bravo: La City Council persons, Norie Martinez Kevin de Leone and Gil Sidel.

1039
02:17:36.750 --> 02:17:45.499
Mike Bravo: We request that these individuals be held accountable for the harm they have cost which must include their immediate resignation from public office.

1040
02:17:46.040 --> 02:17:53.010
jim murez: Okay, we have a motion. We have a second uh Daffodil. Do we have any public comment?

1041
02:17:54.830 --> 02:17:59.589
Daffodil Tyminski: Um, we have a few hands raised,

1042
02:17:59.920 --> 02:18:02.390
Daffodil Tyminski: Kevin de Leon. Go ahead first.

1043
02:18:06.990 --> 02:18:16.930
Kevin De Leon: Well, thank you. Everybody. Um. Well, you know I'm going to use this in my in my civil rights and my employment. Discrimination lawsuit against the city.

1044
02:18:17.030 --> 02:18:30.689
Kevin De Leon: You're bullying me and making a hostile work environment, so I can't get back to work at my council job. I have a right to work and you're denying me the right to work by you.

1045
02:18:30.799 --> 02:18:40.800
Kevin De Leon: Well, well, dear um! I'm talking about the city councilman being bullied. You're You're preventing him from working right. That's what i'm talking about.

1046
02:18:40.870 --> 02:18:56.090
Kevin De Leon: So what? What what fuckin meeting are you talking about is you release this? How many, what tape, what needy, you know That's what the fucks were on. Thank you, sir. And again you're dropping looks like shit.

1047
02:18:56.450 --> 02:19:01.029
Kevin De Leon: Which tape are you talking about september twenty-seven,

1048
02:19:01.180 --> 02:19:09.979
Kevin De Leon: November eighteenth, October eighteenth, which tape, there's nine of them.

1049
02:19:11.860 --> 02:19:12.949
Daffodil Tyminski: Um,

1050
02:19:13.270 --> 02:19:15.150
Daffodil Tyminski: Elizabeth, right go ahead.

1051
02:19:18.680 --> 02:19:26.020
Elizabeth Wright: At the ad con meeting it was pointed out that these need to be the separate motions for each of the

1052
02:19:26.180 --> 02:19:28.070
Elizabeth Wright: the Cia's files,

1053
02:19:28.440 --> 02:19:29.340
Elizabeth Wright: and

1054
02:19:29.790 --> 02:19:35.889
Elizabeth Wright: some of these I don't think you can even submit a cis because the Board hasn't considered them

1055
02:19:38.690 --> 02:19:39.770
Elizabeth Wright: things like

1056
02:19:40.200 --> 02:19:42.960
Elizabeth Wright: create a reform ballot initiative.

1057
02:19:45.070 --> 02:19:46.049
Elizabeth Wright: Um.

1058
02:19:46.879 --> 02:19:51.710
Elizabeth Wright: The Board had better consider that before they say we're we're going to do a Cis on it.

1059
02:19:52.470 --> 02:19:54.319
Elizabeth Wright: So please buy for Kate

1060
02:19:54.570 --> 02:19:57.309
Elizabeth Wright: and make a decision for each one. Thank you.

1061
02:19:57.470 --> 02:19:58.820
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks, Liz

1062
02:19:59.840 --> 02:20:01.660
Daffodil Tyminski: Robin Morretz. Go ahead,

1063
02:20:08.940 --> 02:20:09.910
Robin.

1064
02:20:10.980 --> 02:20:13.650
Daffodil Tyminski: Hi! Can you hear me? Yes,

1065
02:20:14.060 --> 02:20:15.760
Robin Murez: um. So

1066
02:20:16.580 --> 02:20:22.750
Robin Murez: I think that the uh, the reprehensible language, and certainly

1067
02:20:22.780 --> 02:20:28.739
Robin Murez: all of it was inappropriate. I think that before we should address

1068
02:20:29.010 --> 02:20:34.749
Robin Murez: what would be done with those Council members, our own Council member has been

1069
02:20:35.150 --> 02:20:47.510
Robin Murez: uh calling out anyone who he disagrees with um with racial slurs. He's called us nimb he's called a segregationist, and I feel like

1070
02:20:47.700 --> 02:21:01.649
Robin Murez: um before talking about other Council members, we would be addressing our own. Um. I think it's reprehensible that our own community that that our Council member has purposefully

1071
02:21:01.850 --> 02:21:05.809
Robin Murez: attempted to have a racial divide among

1072
02:21:06.050 --> 02:21:17.600
Robin Murez: the then it within the Venice community, and it doesn't belong here. It never has belonged here, and so I think we need to look at ourselves first. Thank you.

1073
02:21:17.670 --> 02:21:19.110
Thanks, Robin.

1074
02:21:19.140 --> 02:21:21.240
Daffodil Tyminski: Uh Lisa Redmond. Go ahead.

1075
02:21:23.170 --> 02:21:26.790
Lisa Redmond: Um! I think that this is an important motion.

1076
02:21:26.880 --> 02:21:35.119
Lisa Redmond: Other neighborhood councils were able to get together within a matter of a few days and put out very impactful state.

1077
02:21:39.570 --> 02:21:41.369
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, Lisa, Sorry

1078
02:21:41.810 --> 02:21:47.129
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sorry, guys, when you're done like Robin in particular. Could you please lower your hands?

1079
02:21:47.930 --> 02:21:52.140
Daffodil Tyminski: It it's it's just frustrating. Go ahead, Lisa. Sorry about that.

1080
02:21:52.470 --> 02:21:55.960
jim murez: I'm gonna put some time back on her clock. Um

1081
02:21:56.320 --> 02:22:04.480
Lisa Redmond: that was extremely rude to interrupt me in the middle of my green of thought. I It was accidental. I apologize.

1082
02:22:04.780 --> 02:22:07.120
Daffodil Tyminski: No one is intentionally trying to interrupt you.

1083
02:22:07.880 --> 02:22:11.540
Lisa Redmond: I don't know where I got cut off that

1084
02:22:12.090 --> 02:22:18.710
Daffodil Tyminski: you said Other neighborhood councils have been able to get together within a matter of days to put together powerful and impactful statements.

1085
02:22:18.920 --> 02:22:30.009
Lisa Redmond: And so there's no reason why we can't do something. That's this simple. All this is asking is to put a simple little statement as a cis

1086
02:22:30.020 --> 02:22:47.740
Lisa Redmond: on each motion we can go back and read other motions, and value each individual Cs. Separately at it's another time. But for now this is doing it, and other neighborhood councils can batch Cis statements like this as well. There's no reason why we can't.

1087
02:22:47.750 --> 02:23:00.490
Lisa Redmond: We have to listen to the stakeholders right now that this is important, that we get a statement, and our voice goes with a growing number to call for the resignation and the reprehensible actions.

1088
02:23:02.240 --> 02:23:03.600
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Lisa.

1089
02:23:04.880 --> 02:23:06.050
Daffodil Tyminski: Um

1090
02:23:06.090 --> 02:23:08.649
Daffodil Tyminski: Again, If you could lower your hand that'd be great.

1091
02:23:12.110 --> 02:23:13.949
Daffodil Tyminski: Helen Fallon, go ahead.

1092
02:23:18.130 --> 02:23:36.590
Helen Fallon: I feel there's a some wording missing from this motion. It is within the power of the city council to censure their members. They don't have the power to demand their resignation. And frankly, uh, you know. When we got set up with our Council person, we started a recall.

1093
02:23:36.600 --> 02:23:43.760
Helen Fallon: Uh, I don't think it's really that appropriate for people in different areas of the city to be demanding that

1094
02:23:43.770 --> 02:24:04.049
Helen Fallon: other representatives in other areas be resigned. Yes, their behavior was represented reprehensible. The language is very offensive, and the first order of business ought to be to for that city council to get on with their business and use the power they do have and censure these people, and we should be asking for that censure,

1095
02:24:04.060 --> 02:24:14.510
Helen Fallon: and I think that word should be included in there, and not the emphasis on resignation. Start with the use the process you have. If you want to get them out of office, it's gotta be a recall.

1096
02:24:14.810 --> 02:24:19.580
Helen Fallon: They don't want to leave. It's the only way you're going to get rid of them. Thank you.

1097
02:24:24.650 --> 02:24:26.170
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Helen.

1098
02:24:26.330 --> 02:24:29.379
Daffodil Tyminski: Um Kalani w go ahead.

1099
02:24:34.140 --> 02:24:37.519
Kalani W: I agree with what's the

1100
02:24:38.060 --> 02:25:00.199
Kalani W: proposal States in general. But yes, there are some details that do need to be fleshed out. I have concerns about asking for resignation, because there is talk about who is going to replace and be the head of the Council, and that's going to be Raymond, who is just another Bonnie Vonnin uh in address. And

1101
02:25:00.210 --> 02:25:13.969
Kalani W: so I would like to slow things down. I do believe what happened was reprehensible, and yes, they they should leave office. Um, we do have an election coming up, I believe only one of them

1102
02:25:13.980 --> 02:25:38.479
Kalani W: uh is up for for election, but people need to vote and need to vote wisely. We need to get away from identity politics and just voting for people who look like us, or if we want a woman to be mayor, even though she accepted a ninety-two thousand dollar gift from Usc. And didn't claim it, and this doesn't see anything wrong with it. Thank you.

1103
02:25:45.370 --> 02:25:47.070
jim murez: You're muted

1104
02:25:50.780 --> 02:25:55.289
Daffodil Tyminski: all right. There's just a lot of background noise in my neighborhood. Um, Rebecca Kramer.

1105
02:25:55.360 --> 02:25:56.449
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead,

1106
02:26:03.780 --> 02:26:04.860
Daffodil Tyminski: Rebecca.

1107
02:26:10.180 --> 02:26:14.470
Daffodil Tyminski: Um! Why don't we for the moment go to Erica more and wait for Rebecca to come on.

1108
02:26:14.520 --> 02:26:16.700
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Erica, Go ahead.

1109
02:26:16.900 --> 02:26:27.479
Erica Moore: Hi! There. I just wanted to thank Mike for taking the time to craft this and um, and I think that obviously we do need to to speak up. And because this was

1110
02:26:27.720 --> 02:26:46.930
Erica Moore: very irreprehensible. Um. But I also agree that it might be possible we have to evaluate exactly how that look like what that looks like, But I do want to thank Mike for bringing this forward, because I know that you spent a lot of time on this, and I think that we do as a as a community need to um support the fact that people,

1111
02:26:47.180 --> 02:26:53.969
Erica Moore: especially representatives, cannot be speaking like that about what's the horrifying? Thank you. Thanks, Erica

1112
02:26:54.590 --> 02:26:55.910
Daffodil Tyminski: um

1113
02:26:56.110 --> 02:26:58.439
Daffodil Tyminski: call in user. Number Four. Go ahead.

1114
02:27:08.190 --> 02:27:12.179
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. We're going to move on from calling user. Number Four

1115
02:27:13.720 --> 02:27:16.589
Daffodil Tyminski: Um and Sean O'brien, Go ahead,

1116
02:27:27.710 --> 02:27:28.770
Daffodil Tyminski: Shawn.

1117
02:27:34.680 --> 02:27:38.960
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay? Well, we can go back to those three again.

1118
02:27:39.720 --> 02:27:41.689
Daffodil Tyminski: We're back at Kramer. Go ahead,

1119
02:27:42.750 --> 02:28:01.469
Rebecca Kramer: Hi! Can you hear me this time? Yes, terrific um! When Mr. Brabo, I know the I didn't follow the whole note. So I I did initially what he was, what he was referring to when he mentioned designing. I didn't understand immediately that it was the

1120
02:28:01.480 --> 02:28:13.379
Rebecca Kramer: city council, and for a moment I thought perhaps he was doing the right thing. I'm with the other caller. I think it's incredibly inappropriate that he's still in the Neighborhood Council. Thank you.

1121
02:28:16.020 --> 02:28:18.630
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Shawn or Brian. Go ahead

1122
02:28:25.890 --> 02:28:27.150
Daffodil Tyminski: all right. Well,

1123
02:28:27.280 --> 02:28:31.869
Daffodil Tyminski: we give them two shots. We'll give one more shot to call on, user and then we'll close public comment

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Call-In User_4: before Hi. Can you hear me this time?

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yes,

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Call-In User_4: thank you. Hi, This is Ruth.

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Call-In User_4: Um i'm an on house person. I used to live in Venice. I don't live in Venice anymore, but I live on the streets, and anything that affects homelessness affects me. I became homeless decades ago because of domestic violence between my parents and

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Call-In User_4: um.

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I.

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Call-In User_4: You know that every day for the first five months since L. A. M. C. Forty, one, eighteen was passed into law in extra. That topic, please you, me to speak for my minute. You're off topic, Ruth. Okay, no, I'm, not. Actually. This goes back to the racism. That um was was discussed between the City council people

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because all anti-homelessness is anti-blackness. Because thirty eight percent of homeless people are black. Okay,

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Call-In User_4: it's amazing that it's so hard for you people to put that together when

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Call-In User_4: when you guys pass motions and then you silence homeless people from talking. I fully support this motion. It does not go hard enough, Mitch

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Call-In User_4: and Ah Heather also need to resign, because in the in the case if you listen to them. Mary is talking about appointing them to uphold racist. Ah, ah! Purposes to to disenfranchise for people black people! Ah,

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Daffodil Tyminski: thank you. On over time.

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jim murez: Um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. Are there any other? Were there any other public speakers?

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jim murez: Thank you. Let's close public comment. Um,

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jim murez: we have a motion. We have a second. Do we have any board? Comment

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Clark Brown: Clark. Your hand is up. Go ahead. Yeah, I support the motion. I don't see any need to fine tune. This thing. This is a This is an advisory motion, only it's not binding on on anyone, but I think it delivers a very clear message. But the Venice Neighborhood Council is very unhappy with the reprehensible conduct of these uh, of these three council persons, and they should be removed. I don't think we have to fine tune. How we go about that

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Clark Brown: delivers the message. That's enough.

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jim murez: Okay, Daffodil.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yeah, I agree with Clark. I Um, the only and I I think um, we absolutely should say something, and i'm glad Mike put it together so quickly. The only question I had is when we looked at this before. There was some confusion about the um

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Daffodil Tyminski: file numbers, and I haven't gone back myself. But has that been worked out? Do we know that

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Daffodil Tyminski: when we upload this it's going to all the right places.

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jim murez: Um, I I I guess I would like to respond to the question, and and at the same time. Um respond to one of the public speakers comments about um, there being something being included in the the voter

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jim murez: process, I personally have not had time to read all of these uh Council files, and I wonder why we want to include the Council file numbers in this motion when we could file the

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jim murez: community impact statements on the Council files without having them be part of the motion. So that would give us the opportunity basically to go back and read the council files and decide. Is this motion appropriate to file on that council, file or not?

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jim murez: And so, I think, actually some of the council files that we're listed here from my understanding may have already been a moot point um, because the one of them had to do a censoring, and they weren't going to do censoring, and I don't know

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jim murez: I I that's just my feeling, and I don't have an answer for you to have to deal with any. That was. My only comment is that if we pass something we pass it in such a way, so we know it's correct, and maybe Mike actually knows, because We' all talked about this at oncom, but I that was the only thing I

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jim murez: Well, let me let me come circle back around the mic. But we have a couple of other hands up first, and I guess I would like to cover those first. Um. So would that go ahead, please? Um. So for the council files. I think we need to get it right on the one ending in one hundred and eighty-nine. This is

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Soledad Ursua: asking for resignation. Um, but the one ending in nine, two. That's for the new Council President, the vacancy, the one ending, and nine three is also for the election vacancy,

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Soledad Ursua: the one ending in one thousand one hundred and ninety-five. This is for censure, not grounds for removal, eleven, nine, six is talking about charter reform, a two thousand and twenty-four ballot initiative and redistricting

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Soledad Ursua: the one ending in in one thousand one hundred and ninety-seven. This is talking about again charter reform. So I think we'd be really careful, because we have so many different um, you know, uh items here, and then also um. You know what Kevin de Leon just said, Aka go puppet um.

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Soledad Ursua: It is true what I mean. I'm not trying to defend any of these people, but Kevin de Leon can sue for harassment and hostile work environment. It is not the ability of the La City Council to call for resignations. They can call for censure.

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Soledad Ursua: Uh, only the district people can call for the resignation through a ballot initiative much like what Ben is trying to do with Mike Bonnan. So I think we need to be very careful. Um! I would vote to censure them. I think that I mean these attacks for violent racist. But legally you cannot ask for the resignation, and Mr. Kdl go puppet. Is correct that Kevin Dale will likely file, for you know, Harassment, hostile workplace,

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Soledad Ursua: What's it?

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jim murez: Thank you. Solidar um, Jay, Go ahead, please.

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Jay Handal: Yeah. So I I just want to say that I I I think the Council file issue is really important, and I like your idea of not actually naming which Council files so that we have the flexibility to actually get the right one or One's

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Jay Handal: There's a number of them in here that I don't think you know this motion really fits.

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Jay Handal: Uh, I would really like to see um

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Jay Handal: an additional line in the motion asking for center and resignation. Uh, you know. Um, there should be an immediate center and an immediate resignation, because what they did was they tore the city apart,

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Jay Handal: is what they did. They absolutely ripped this city apart, and it's going to take a long time for this city to heal, and the healing will not start until they have gone, and that's really the bottom line.

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Jay Handal: So I would. I would just say that we should remove all the council files and leave it up to

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Jay Handal: whomever the addcom executives whomever to all Mike, to identify. You know the the pertinent Uh Council files, and and then get something filed, but something that also includes the immediate sanctioning

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Jay Handal: uh censoring and resignation from public office.

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Jay Handal: That's my opinion, because I think they've absolutely done more damage than anyone can imagine.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah, I think we should move cautiously. And I think, Uh,

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robertthibodeau: you know we've got uh our councilman, Mike Bonnan, behind this whole thing. We had

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robertthibodeau: council people that were taped without their knowledge, not defending what they said, Um,

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robertthibodeau: there should be repercussions, but

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robertthibodeau: you know, jump into the aid of Mike Bonn, who,

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robertthibodeau: as we heard with all the residents from Burn, and have

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robertthibodeau: doesn't doesn't help us. I I don't, you know. I'm not feeling. I'm not really feeling it for him. I it's. I guess that's what I got to say,

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jim murez: Thank you, Robert. Um.

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jim murez: If you guys that have spoken to put your hands down, it lets me see the list of who still has their hands up.

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jim murez: Um, Jason, go ahead, please.

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Jason Sugars: It occurs to me that the only reason to not vote for these immediate removals is, if you are in enough, with either complacency or complacency with what they were saying to agree with it. It doesn't so much matter whether or not Kevin day long will sue doesn't really too much matter how they feel about things,

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Jason Sugars: their ideologies, and how they feel about other people of other colors. Class whatever is not as relevant as the fact that they were proven on tape, whether they were meant to be recorded or not

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Jason Sugars: in acting those ideals and in acting that bias those biases as part of the job of trying to steer public policy and redistrict, which means that they are willing to

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Jason Sugars: capable and have been proven to use their racist and other biases, racism, and other biases, as part of their movement to move. How this city works, and what it does that goes back from there redistricting anything else. The only way and reason

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Jason Sugars: to dis to disagree with asking for the removal is, if you agree enough with what they said or don't mind what they said. Enough that you don't think that it's an issue. There's no other excuse.

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jim murez: Thank you. Jason. Um.

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jim murez: Okay, um.

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jim murez: I don't know if there's any other hands up, Daffodil, that you already spoke once, Elizabeth. Yeah, but I just want to say something else. But go ahead,

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jim murez: Elizabeth.

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elizabeth clay: Um,

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elizabeth clay: I I just want to

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elizabeth clay: make the point that we do need to be careful. Uh, It's not as simple as Jason Checkers just described it to be, or we wouldn't have people like go puppet talking to us and throwing out racial slurs and and swearing there's a lot of things we have to take that we don't like, but we still have to follow process, and

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elizabeth clay: I uh, I mean you.

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elizabeth clay: By By no means. Am I suggesting that anything that we heard is is something that um we should desire for our cities to visit conversation, but at the same time it we have to be careful what what fights we get into um within the purview of the Venice Neighborhood Council, and I think we

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elizabeth clay: we have to keep that in mind as we. We can't be flip about our request this isn't about

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elizabeth clay: uh our emotional needs at this time, or there's just a lot of other things we would have acted on, and perhaps you know our our own council, and we would have acted differently if we could. But we can't. So uh we do have to follow protocol. I'll just leave it at that.

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jim murez: Thank you, Elizabeth. Um.

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jim murez: I mean a hard time telling if anybody else still has their hands.

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Another chance to speak yet.

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jim murez: Melissa. Go ahead, please.

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melissadiner: Uh, yeah, i'll vote for this as written. But I just want to say in general. Um, i'm concerned about cancel culture. Um, and and i'm also concerned about the city council going far left in these acts, being used um

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Soledad Ursua: for certain for you to capitalize on them and achieve that goal. Um! And I just hope we take that into consideration. Thanks

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jim murez: really flesh out the language because it's very quick. How this happened is that an option before we vote? So we don't have to include the Council files in the motion, and we could put through right now if we wanted to to slightly modify it, and add, for instance, the word center in there

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jim murez: we could add the word censure,

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jim murez: because this did not go through a committee correct, I mean, is there a committee that could. There was not a committee that was available to hear this on a timely basis. And you know I I wanted to make a point that somebody else. One of the public speakers made earlier that the other Nc's were able to get this out within a few days.

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jim murez: You know I don't know what the timing of their meetings was, but they didn't have a regularly scheduled meeting, and that would have been a committee meeting and also their board meeting. Then it also was just done very much on the fly.

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jim murez: Um, and they probably had a special meeting just to do this. So you know, going back to the whole concept of we're having too many meetings. This might have been one of those cases where we should have had a special meeting just on this one topic, but here nor there, at any rate Um!

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jim murez: Solely that hold on to your thought for a minute. Let's hear what, Freddie.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Hello! Can you hear me. Now.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): There may be some questions about whether an Nc. Can actually censure someone that is not a member of their own body.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Thus they may want, you might want to emphasize other aspects of their proposed action. Um, and you know, maybe use the words as approval. Um, and request for resignations. Um! You could still use the word center in the generic disapproval sense, but not center, as in the

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): the the action that the city Council can take, because it's. There is already a central process outlined in the city Council's own standing rules, which is rule number eighty-eight which requires an ad hoc committee for that central process to move forward.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Um! The two council files that directly apply to this is one thousand one hundred and eighty, nine and one thousand one hundred and ninety five

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): um to be more specific to help you out in this process if you want to. Uh make any edits. Um Also, with any resulting cis or resolution.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Please make sure you review it carefully. Um! In the language that is being used, so that there is any defamatory discriminatory, or any other problematic content. Uh, before being published to the, to the public.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Um! Other than that, I I will try to help as much as I can for this item.

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jim murez: Thank you. Ready,

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jim murez: Sima. You've been patient. You have your hand up. Go ahead, please,

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jim murez: Sima. Did you want to speak? You have to unmute You had your hand up now. It's found.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Vote for it. But I want to urge caution just like Melissa, because I don't think that we have a right. This are not our districts, and I think that we have to be careful, as our uh stakeholders have, you know, pointed out, and uh, to Jason's Point. I don't think it's that simple.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I think that you can disagree, and you can make a stand, and you can be resolute. You don't have to ask for the process that's already in place. I

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Sima Kostovetsky: just my comments.

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jim murez: Okay, Um

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jim murez: Vicki, You have your hand up. Go ahead, please.

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Vicki Halliday: Uh, yeah, I mean, if we're gonna um rewrite this, or a a little bit of an amendment as an advisory council.

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Vicki Halliday: Whatever implements they have in their bylaws, in order to censure or hold these people accountable,

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Vicki Halliday: and I think that's where the wording might be a little bit off, that we're requesting and to be, and see

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Vicki Halliday: that they be held accountable, and demand their resignation where really we have to advise the City council that that's what we want them to do.

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jim murez: That's all understood. I think you're probably correct. Um,

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jim murez: and that would be a minor tweak. I think that would be okay. Um, Who hasn't? Spoken. I guess

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jim murez: everybody who has their hand up at this point, so I still see the hands up of solid dead Mike

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jim murez: Vicki, J Jason, and Daffodil.

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jim murez: Um. If you don't need to say anything at this point. Please lower your hand before I start calling on people for a second time around

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jim murez: Um,

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jim murez: Mike, you put this thing together uh I'll let you speak next, because everybody's already had one turn.

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Mike Bravo: Uh, go ahead and Mike, can you hear me? Because my screen looks like it's frozen?

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Daffodil Tyminski: We can hear you

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Mike Bravo: Okay, Cool understood. So I I want to say that this motion is It's A. It's a bare minimum, right? And there's been numerous councils that already have a approved dcis, with much more elaborate language than what we have in this one paragraph. Here.

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Mike Bravo: It's basic. Every If there's been numerous councils that have taken action to

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Mike Bravo: what these Counts people did. It affects the whole city

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Mike Bravo: from gerrymandering the the the district,

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Mike Bravo: you know the gerrymandering and just, you know, just the centering. It's all all the council files that here are basic and relevant to the issue directly they're not going far off, or some peripheral issue regarding that, it's directly addressing the harm and the implications of what they did.

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Mike Bravo: And these are most. These are motions that are already a city council. So my understanding with Cis is that this is just our input on these motions that are already in motion at City Hall

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Mike Bravo: we're just adding our opinion or our um,

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Mike Bravo: or input on that, which is what Cis's are. Correct me if i'm wrong, that this is a very minimum. And I said people were past this like days ago with just like imperative, and

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Mike Bravo: I just think it's uh, you know i'm just really disappointed. But

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I still have to say, for now

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jim murez: thank you. No, you're correct that the community impact statements allows the Neighborhood Council to enter into the record into the public record how they, how that Neighborhood Council feels about a particular council file. You're absolutely correct about that. Um. J: Go ahead.

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Jay Handal: Okay. So real, real. Briefly, Number one.

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Jay Handal: This is not just about the racial slur. We we have them laughing at a Council president,

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Jay Handal: promoting child abuse, taking a child around the corner, giving them a beat down and bringing them back to their parents.

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Jay Handal: This this is appalling.

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Jay Handal: Okay. So you have gerrymandering. You have racial issues. You have promoting child abuse, and I don't care If it was in in a whole. You know a Union hall when someone didn't like what they did, and they recorded it.

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Jay Handal: You know it's out. It is what it is, and you can't get away with that. So the fact that matter is that President Biden came out and said, they need to resign.

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Jay Handal: Okay, these Council members represent not their district. When I hear people say we shouldn't be talking about a Council member in another district, let's be clear.

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Jay Handal: They vote on everything that happens in this city.

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Jay Handal: So if they vote to put the Median project up for the homeless and Venice doesn't like it, they voted for it.

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Jay Handal: So Yes, they're responsible for the entire city. Not just boil heights, not just their little enclave, but they're responsible for everything that happens in the city, and we need to remember that,

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Jay Handal: coupled with the fact that what they did is reprehensible,

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Jay Handal: and calling for their resignation, calling for the Council to send to them and for them to resign. Okay, is exactly what we should do, and frankly, I think we should have held an emergency meeting and done this a week ago.

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Jay Handal: Thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you. Jay. Um Daffodil, Go ahead, please.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Yeah, i'm with J. A thousand. I couldn't have said it better. The only two things I will add is, I think we're really letting perfect be the enemy of good. Here I get it. We could, you know, word Smith this all day long for a maximum impact. But I think the point is, we're trying to get our collective voice heard

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Daffodil Tyminski: and be part of the conversation, or at least be heard as um caring about this issue, which we should um to the point about. This may prompt a lawsuit. By Kevin Leone, I mean I I don't want to be so dismissive as to say it's ridiculous. But

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Daffodil Tyminski: if he wants to commit career suicide and do that, I would give it to like a second year lawyer in the city attorney's office who could handily dispose of that. I I think that's that's just not a real concern. Um! It's, you know. I'd actually love to see it happen, and take the case myself frankly.

1263
02:50:17.040 --> 02:50:23.510
Daffodil Tyminski: So I I think we absolutely should vote for this. I think the Council files we should strip,

1264
02:50:23.610 --> 02:50:30.389
Daffodil Tyminski: and if we could add other language if we want, but I think it's great as it is.

1265
02:50:30.480 --> 02:50:31.570
jim murez: Um,

1266
02:50:31.660 --> 02:50:33.840
jim murez: Jason, go ahead, please.

1267
02:50:35.170 --> 02:50:40.269
Jason Sugars: It's not a emotional reaction, and it has very little to do with what they said.

1268
02:50:40.370 --> 02:51:00.120
Jason Sugars: It's not canceled culture. It has to do with their implementing those ideas and those feelings into their governing of our city entire city, not just their districts, our entire city. So I just wanted to make sure. It seemed. It seemed that someone was under the idea, under the impression that I was having an emotional reaction to this. Believe me, i'm used to it

1269
02:51:00.600 --> 02:51:18.450
Jason Sugars: hidden or shown for. So It's okay, not an emotional thing. People that feel that way should not have Jobs steering our public policy, and should certainly not be willing to take the money of the blacks and indigenous that they hate, and this, and just like so much to do those jobs they need to go.

1270
02:51:19.930 --> 02:51:21.869
jim murez: Thank you, Jason. Um.

1271
02:51:24.080 --> 02:51:25.540
jim murez: We have two more

1272
02:51:25.600 --> 02:51:38.620
jim murez: people that have their hands up, and then we're going to take a vote. Elizabeth, you were too late. Melissa and Nico go ahead.

1273
02:51:41.320 --> 02:51:54.410
Nico Ruderman: Yeah. First of all, I would like to say I I I think we should vote Yes, on this. I I think it's important. You know the the racism is is is awful. It's reprehensible. Um! Beyond that, the the the corruption that's exposed

1274
02:51:54.710 --> 02:52:06.109
Nico Ruderman: um really shows uh just how dysfunctional the city is. How it's dysfunctional to see Council is um, and really have corrupt the entire process of the election process,

1275
02:52:06.720 --> 02:52:24.660
Nico Ruderman: et cetera. Um! But I would like to echo um some. Some some public comments. Um! That we should also be calling for our own city Council members. Uh um resignation. Um! He is Docs multiple members of this Council, myself included. He's published hateful Eyes.

1276
02:52:24.670 --> 02:52:44.130
Nico Ruderman: He's published my home address. He has personally sent people to attack my house. Um! He is. He is just as disgraceful as any of these other people. Um, it's it's it's horrible that anybody attacked the son um, but he also put my son in danger. So um! He, doesn't really get much sympathy from me. Um, I will still go. Yes, for this.

1277
02:52:44.740 --> 02:52:48.309
jim murez: Thank you. Nico. Um. Okay, uh,

1278
02:52:49.580 --> 02:52:51.739
jim murez: let's take a vote on this. I think

1279
02:52:52.280 --> 02:53:04.459
jim murez: at this point the the only question that I would have is whether or not we want to modify the motion to remove the community impact statements, but I think that that just reopens

1280
02:53:04.990 --> 02:53:20.299
Soledad Ursua: the the issue of taking public comment.

1281
02:53:20.470 --> 02:53:24.099
Mike Bravo: Then let me just address this. It won't. Hurt

1282
02:53:24.230 --> 02:53:34.880
jim murez: the Council file for us to put this onto the council file if it's unrelated in some remote way. And and so for that reason,

1283
02:53:35.500 --> 02:53:42.780
jim murez: you know you look at it. It's it's eight, forty, five. We've been on this item for an hour already. Um,

1284
02:53:43.200 --> 02:53:59.349
Soledad Ursua: I mean, can we look at? Can we do a special meeting to really get this right? So it seems like a very important issue, and it it feels like we're. I mean, there's I would like to get this right. I mean I I feel like I can't vote for this if and we look at like

1285
02:53:59.360 --> 02:54:08.680
Soledad Ursua: I mean I I actually read all the Council files and went to them, and there's some that I really agree with. But they are not related to this

1286
02:54:08.690 --> 02:54:26.140
melissadiner: an alternate motion. Wait, Jim, Can I ask a question before you suggest that just if this motion doesn't pass for not enough people pass it, then it could go back to wherever and be rewritten and come back. So I think they can. Then we have to have a special meeting, or wait until November.

1287
02:54:26.150 --> 02:54:42.769
Daffodil Tyminski: It would be much easier right now to just have an alternate motion. Take out the Council file numbers, and then proceed.

1288
02:54:42.780 --> 02:54:58.489
Daffodil Tyminski: It's that, and that's true, too. Right so like it it. I mean. I'd like i'd like it to be cleaner, which I thought was gonna kind of happen between that common now. But it's not so. I think we shouldn't embarrass ourselves by not being able to pass a very simple motion.

1289
02:55:00.580 --> 02:55:02.760
jim murez: Okay, let's take a boat.

1290
02:55:02.880 --> 02:55:10.659
jim murez: I think our Vice President spoke. I'm not opposed to that, either. Let's take the vote um Daffodil. How do you vote?

1291
02:55:12.240 --> 02:55:14.320
melissadiner: Melissa

1292
02:55:14.690 --> 02:55:16.430
jim murez: Jay? Yes,

1293
02:55:16.540 --> 02:55:20.159
Bruno Hernandez: yes,

1294
02:55:22.390 --> 02:55:23.500
jim murez: Nico

1295
02:55:24.960 --> 02:55:29.430
jim murez: Jim, Rob. Yes,

1296
02:55:29.720 --> 02:55:32.100
Jim Robb: Jim Ross. Okay,

1297
02:55:33.230 --> 02:55:36.419
Um, yes,

1298
02:55:36.570 --> 02:55:37.690
jim murez: Alley

1299
02:55:38.020 --> 02:55:40.220
Chie: I Yes,

1300
02:55:40.300 --> 02:55:41.380
jim murez: Mike.

1301
02:55:41.890 --> 02:55:45.600
Mike Bravo: Yes,

1302
02:55:47.030 --> 02:55:49.300
CJ Cole: Cj

1303
02:55:50.370 --> 02:55:53.140
Elizabeth

1304
02:55:54.650 --> 02:55:55.710
jim murez: Robert

1305
02:55:55.810 --> 02:55:57.130
robertthibodeau: abstain.

1306
02:55:58.460 --> 02:56:00.390
jim murez: Clark. Yes,

1307
02:56:04.420 --> 02:56:05.460
Michael: yes,

1308
02:56:07.440 --> 02:56:14.340
jim murez: and let me go back.

1309
02:56:15.840 --> 02:56:18.190
jim murez: Okay, Um,

1310
02:56:19.080 --> 02:56:29.210
jim murez: One thousand two hundred and four. I'm going to vote. Yes, although I think it's probably staying. But i'm going to vote. Yes, in in principle I agree with it. I just wish we had done better.

1311
02:56:29.330 --> 02:56:33.479
jim murez: So The motion carried um one thousand four hundred and four.

1312
02:56:34.700 --> 02:56:35.880
jim murez: Um!

1313
02:56:35.990 --> 02:56:38.569
jim murez: The time now is

1314
02:56:39.130 --> 02:56:40.840
jim murez: eight, forty, seven

1315
02:56:40.920 --> 02:56:42.180
jim murez: Um!

1316
02:56:42.290 --> 02:56:49.030
jim murez: Does anybody want to say anything about items? Not on the agenda?

1317
02:56:49.080 --> 02:56:50.260
jim murez: Um

1318
02:56:51.540 --> 02:56:54.170
jim murez: that that we need to discuss. Still tonight

1319
02:56:55.600 --> 02:57:08.629
jim murez: that would be uh, okay. So, Jason, you have your hand up. I'll go in the order that I see i'm not going to do it more than once. Everybody just gets one chance to speak on this, and then we're going to call it it hopefully will be done by nine o'clock. Jason, go ahead, please.

1320
02:57:08.640 --> 02:57:38.279
Jason Sugars: Having an event at the beach at a recreation center near Mussel. Be in the Skate Park uh Sunday, November sixth. So Jazz festival, based on kind of old Venice, and named after an underground jazz club called the as is It existed on what is now out of Kenny from seventy to seventy-eight. To that i'd honor that period of time in Venice put a little jazz festival together. All young bands all live jazz um la based bands, and it is free, open to the public

1321
02:57:38.340 --> 02:57:49.919
jim murez: and just showing up To give me a hug would be all the support I can ask. Jason, Can you please get a copy of whatever written information you have available over to? Uh,

1322
02:57:51.310 --> 02:58:03.810
jim murez: yeah, I'm sorry i'm It's late for me. I will. I will see to it. Thank you. Over to Let's see if we can get something about that on on our page. It's a free event. We can promote it

1323
02:58:04.250 --> 02:58:05.449
jim murez: um

1324
02:58:05.580 --> 02:58:09.689
jim murez: next in line. Robert Tibeto. Go ahead, please.

1325
02:58:10.250 --> 02:58:13.730
robertthibodeau: Um. The jazz fest sounds great. Um!

1326
02:58:14.100 --> 02:58:20.250
robertthibodeau: The thing I wanted to talk about was follow up for the folks on Vernon.

1327
02:58:20.340 --> 02:58:30.770
robertthibodeau: I I know they let me interrupt you. They were talking about Flower. I'm Sorry, Flower. I meant Flower Vernon next street over. Um.

1328
02:58:31.140 --> 02:58:43.919
robertthibodeau: Yeah, so. Uh, we. We need to take that seriously, and we need to put pressure on the Council Office and the police, and whoever else to, you know, make the offers of

1329
02:58:44.220 --> 02:58:52.740
robertthibodeau: of housing and uh clean that up. These people have dealt with that for far too long. Now it's it's literally been years um,

1330
02:58:52.770 --> 02:58:58.849
robertthibodeau: and what I'm. I'm not sure what that means, you know. Do we need to have a special meeting on this? Do we need to,

1331
02:58:59.420 --> 02:59:14.650
robertthibodeau: you know, Uh, have the homeless Committee deal with it, you know, but we need to follow up with that, and I would love to get the dates on the date and time on the jazz pest. I didn't catch that at the beginning. The date and time was eleven six, but I don't know the location.

1332
02:59:15.530 --> 02:59:35.999
Jason Sugars: Yeah, it's the entire park. Pretty much so from the basketball court over to the State Park, and it's uh Sunday, November six starts at twelve Pm. Since we get dark early. I don't know how late we're going, but we're scheduled to have the park until seven, but i'll give you guys all written information Asap

1333
02:59:37.150 --> 02:59:41.389
jim murez: and Robert, we're going to work on the thing on flower offline.

1334
02:59:41.430 --> 02:59:43.240
jim murez: Melissa. Go ahead, please.

1335
02:59:44.860 --> 02:59:57.940
melissadiner: Uh, yeah, I this isn't throwing sh to anyone. I'm really just in general concerned about the upcoming Dnc election. I've been concerned for a number of years.

1336
02:59:57.950 --> 03:00:05.230
melissadiner: Um, but especially since we've been all online, I think the dynamic has really changed,

1337
03:00:05.470 --> 03:00:17.619
melissadiner: and I just don't know how, with how difficult it was to run a fair election last time, how that's even gonna come close to being possible

1338
03:00:17.690 --> 03:00:30.580
melissadiner: this time. We were at least in person last time. But I think like moving forward, we just all really need to think about that between now and the election, and with any election items coming up. Thanks.

1339
03:00:30.590 --> 03:00:49.359
jim murez: Thank you, Melissa. Are you going to volunteer to help with that? And I just want to let you know that the elections will be either by requested mail-in, ballot or in person. I know I actually don't think it should happen, and don't believe in it the way it happened before. So no, I won't be helping out with that.

1340
03:00:49.660 --> 03:00:50.850
jim murez: Okay,

1341
03:00:52.500 --> 03:00:54.880
jim murez: Um, Jim. Rob:

1342
03:00:55.250 --> 03:01:18.740
Jim Robb: Yeah, I just wanted to follow up on Jason, saying he's worked very hard on this, and if we could get any help for him for people like Anne Everest or or Carl Lambert, he's still looking for a little help financing some of this stuff off the side. So I know there's people on the board that have those connections, and I would like to see if he could get a little help on his event. So that's all I've got to say. Thank you.

1343
03:01:20.720 --> 03:01:24.280
jim murez: Thank you. Um, Clark, You have your hand up.

1344
03:01:24.380 --> 03:01:29.850
Clark Brown: Yeah, I want to do a post, a photograph. Do I go to share screen? Is that what I do?

1345
03:01:30.050 --> 03:01:31.569
Clark Brown: Okay. Um.

1346
03:01:34.360 --> 03:01:35.650
Because this is it.

1347
03:01:37.770 --> 03:01:42.749
Clark Brown: You want me to share that one. You email me

1348
03:01:44.830 --> 03:01:47.640
Clark Brown: sort of a one. I on computer issues.

1349
03:01:50.290 --> 03:01:53.760
I don't know I have to find it hold on a second

1350
03:01:54.190 --> 03:02:01.840
Daffodil Tyminski: it should be at the bottom of your screen. It's a green pointing up so, however,

1351
03:02:02.610 --> 03:02:04.100
but

1352
03:02:04.350 --> 03:02:10.310
Daffodil Tyminski: so, then click that button, and then you pick which window that comes up on your computer

1353
03:02:11.440 --> 03:02:13.069
Daffodil Tyminski: that you want to share.

1354
03:02:14.730 --> 03:02:20.080
Daffodil Tyminski: I'll pass on it.

1355
03:02:20.250 --> 03:02:22.490
Daffodil Tyminski: I got it.

1356
03:02:22.890 --> 03:02:34.629
Clark Brown: You should be able to see it Now, right. This is a photo I took of um the encampment on on Flowers Street, and you can see the size of it. Um! The encampment

1357
03:02:35.080 --> 03:02:36.879
Clark Brown: I don't know If it's,

1358
03:02:37.340 --> 03:02:43.919
Clark Brown: you can see how close it is to to houses. Um! There's a a white house

1359
03:02:44.020 --> 03:02:59.220
Clark Brown: uh almost adjacent to the encampment. There is a larger duplex beyond it, and the houses stretched down flower. Five of the people who spoke uh occupied residences well down the street,

1360
03:02:59.230 --> 03:03:19.049
Clark Brown: and still this encampment inflicts uh horrible harm upon them. Behind the encampment is a large uh commercial lot uh with an abandoned building on it. The owner has talked to me, and this encampment prevents him from developing that lot.

1361
03:03:19.180 --> 03:03:21.010
Clark Brown: Um,

1362
03:03:21.300 --> 03:03:39.009
Clark Brown: Okay, the I think we The only way to deal with this situation is to enforce the city's anti camping ordinance, and the city can enforce the ordinance, provided it can find uh alternative places for these people to live,

1363
03:03:39.150 --> 03:03:54.649
Clark Brown: and that's that's really the task before us. Once you can find places to move these people to the uh Anna, and camping ordinance can be enforced. Tessia, you reb it Path has told me that she has some beds available.

1364
03:03:55.100 --> 03:04:07.460
Clark Brown: The uh there are, and I've We've talked about this before. There are three lots around lax. Two of these lots are not anywhere near residences, schools, or churches.

1365
03:04:07.470 --> 03:04:16.720
Clark Brown: Uh those are the lots of and centuries sometimes known as Manchester Square, and a lot at at a Hundred Eleventh Street and Aviation,

1366
03:04:16.730 --> 03:04:35.609
Clark Brown: Two women associated with the Westchester Neighborhood Council. That's Lucy Han and Deborah Houston have supported the lot at a Hundred and Eleven Street and aviation we should be supporting their efforts. Jim Muir is on record, supporting these lax parcels.

1367
03:04:35.620 --> 03:04:38.320
Clark Brown: The february sixth uh

1368
03:04:38.330 --> 03:04:57.029
Clark Brown: two thousand and twenty-two article in the La Times, quotes Jim, is saying, large available swaths of land near the airport and elsewhere should be established as legal managed campsites, until people can be directed to more permanent housing. That's what we should be working on.

1369
03:04:57.150 --> 03:05:04.760
Clark Brown: And once that is, and I've been in touch with Ken Kraft, Who's the Ceo of um

1370
03:05:04.770 --> 03:05:23.090
Clark Brown: uh hope of the Valley Rescue Mission. They are operating six tiny home villages, which are provided eight hundred and ninety beds uh for homeless people. He has seen these lots. He thinks that a tiny home villages could easily be developed upon them, and that's what we ought to be doing.

1371
03:05:24.290 --> 03:05:26.549
jim murez: Thank you, Clark. Um,

1372
03:05:29.180 --> 03:05:31.069
jim murez: definitely. You have your hand up.

1373
03:05:33.370 --> 03:05:37.660
Daffodil Tyminski: Yeah, I just wanted to say quickly to Jason, Reach out to me.

1374
03:05:37.950 --> 03:05:40.050
Daffodil Tyminski: But um! I'll help you with the event.

1375
03:05:40.780 --> 03:05:42.419
Daffodil Tyminski: I've got some ideas for you.

1376
03:05:42.850 --> 03:05:46.949
Jason Sugars: We'll do. And thank you so much. I'm sending out an email. Now, thank you,

1377
03:05:48.120 --> 03:05:50.140
jim murez: Sima, You have your hand up.

1378
03:05:51.040 --> 03:06:00.469
Sima Kostovetsky: I just wanted to say that we, as a neighborhood council, we as individuals, elections coming up. I've been talked about it, but if we want to make

1379
03:06:00.660 --> 03:06:10.650
Sima Kostovetsky: a change, or if we want the status quo, this is the time to get out and do your part, and we have to get people to the polls. So

1380
03:06:11.500 --> 03:06:17.109
Sima Kostovetsky: I think that should be first and foremost for everybody. Right now. Get out and vote.

1381
03:06:18.780 --> 03:06:20.949
jim murez: Thank you.

1382
03:06:21.320 --> 03:06:23.590
jim murez: That was the last hand up.

1383
03:06:24.280 --> 03:06:28.409
jim murez: Let's call this meeting. Let me stop the share

1384
03:06:28.830 --> 03:06:35.050
jim murez: move to adjourn. Yeah, I need to go back to the agenda. Give me one second.

1385
03:06:36.210 --> 03:06:37.119
Where did it come?

1386
03:06:37.780 --> 03:06:38.630
Yes,

1387
03:06:40.950 --> 03:06:51.809
jim murez: okay. Who is the move. Okay, Thank you, Jay. Thank you, Vicki. Good night, everyone. The meeting is.