WEBVTT 1 00:00:34.380 --> 00:00:35.760 frank murphy: Okay, 2 00:00:38.300 --> 00:00:39.820 frank murphy: Can I hear you? 3 00:00:44.570 --> 00:00:46.280 frank murphy: I can't hear you. 4 00:00:58.910 --> 00:01:01.840 frank murphy: Then you got that construction behind you. 5 00:01:02.820 --> 00:01:05.379 frank murphy: I can't hear you now. Huh! 6 00:01:23.660 --> 00:01:26.029 frank murphy: I'm not getting any audio 7 00:01:45.810 --> 00:01:48.859 vicki halliday: i'm on, but I need to be promoted. 8 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:51.699 frank murphy: I can hear you. 9 00:01:52.510 --> 00:01:55.789 vicki halliday: I just need to be promoted. Hang on! 10 00:01:58.700 --> 00:02:00.240 frank murphy: She's a good. 11 00:02:13.500 --> 00:02:14.920 frank murphy: Do you hear me. 12 00:02:16.600 --> 00:02:18.109 vicki halliday: I can break. 13 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:20.089 frank murphy: Okay, I can't hear. Jim. 14 00:02:20.100 --> 00:02:24.990 vicki halliday: Yeah, I need to be. Can you make me co-host? So I have control for screen? 15 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:29.139 vicki halliday: Yeah, How do I do that. Let's see um. 16 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:34.350 vicki halliday: If you go to my name there should be an option. 17 00:02:34.730 --> 00:02:35.900 frank murphy: Yeah, 18 00:02:39.550 --> 00:02:43.409 vicki halliday: make co-hosts all right easy enough. Thank you. 19 00:02:45.900 --> 00:02:47.650 frank murphy: That's way too easy, 20 00:02:52.170 --> 00:02:54.149 frank murphy: so can't hear you. Jim, 21 00:03:07.340 --> 00:03:11.060 frank murphy: and Jodi is Ah, 22 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:12.420 vicki halliday: it's It's 23 00:03:13.980 --> 00:03:15.869 frank murphy: Jody. Can you hear? 24 00:03:28.480 --> 00:03:31.390 frank murphy: I don't know if he's got his uh 25 00:03:32.770 --> 00:03:34.920 frank murphy: He must have his camera off. 26 00:03:35.020 --> 00:03:40.279 vicki halliday: He does. That's It's on the thing he's not got. He's already. Video running. 27 00:03:45.720 --> 00:03:49.120 frank murphy: Looks like Jodie uh Jim may have left. 28 00:03:52.830 --> 00:03:56.169 vicki halliday: Well, let me. I'll watch for ten days. 29 00:03:56.480 --> 00:03:58.690 vicki halliday: Alright, You promote. 30 00:04:00.500 --> 00:04:03.490 frank murphy: Yeah, I don't have much to lay out here. I got it. 31 00:04:03.500 --> 00:04:08.790 frank murphy: I got a couple little points I wanted to make on the chair. But other than that, 32 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:12.950 vicki halliday: okay, you know that's it. It'll be an early night tonight. 33 00:04:13.290 --> 00:04:17.969 vicki halliday: Don't say that I don't say that would be nice. 34 00:04:17.980 --> 00:04:21.010 frank murphy: He'll be here at midnight. You say that 35 00:04:22.520 --> 00:04:24.960 frank murphy: for reasons we'll never know. 36 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:30.279 Jody Mortimer: Where do you get you off? 37 00:04:30.290 --> 00:04:31.290 Jody Mortimer: Can you hear me now? 38 00:04:31.300 --> 00:04:32.690 frank murphy: Yeah, I can hear you now. 39 00:04:32.700 --> 00:04:49.970 Jody Mortimer: Great. Okay, My camera on. Ever since I went to Windows eleven on my laptop, my camera does not work. It's really crazy. So I i'm gonna have to do it without the video. But Mr. Snyder is here with me, 40 00:04:49.980 --> 00:04:55.319 Jody Mortimer: and he'll be tested. He'll be up before the committee just It'll be under my name, I guess. 41 00:04:56.220 --> 00:04:57.620 frank murphy: Okay, 42 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:01.490 frank murphy: That's on the homeless round table. Vicki: 43 00:05:01.500 --> 00:05:04.800 Jody Mortimer: Yes, that's kind of home sounded. Yeah, Larry Snyder 44 00:05:04.940 --> 00:05:07.789 Jody Mortimer: Barry. Larry. 45 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:10.010 vicki halliday: Okay, i'll watch one, 46 00:05:11.260 --> 00:05:21.220 Jody Mortimer: and if you could resend me the link via an email, I may be able to go ahead and put it on my phone, and then we would have video. But it's no big deal. 47 00:05:23.140 --> 00:05:30.540 Jody Mortimer: Yeah, we'll try it. Okay, If you can resend the link to an email, I can try it on my phone. Let me look at that. 48 00:05:36.950 --> 00:05:39.369 Jody Mortimer: It's there to the Gmail or I don't 49 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:48.189 vicki halliday: Just when you think you've got everything organized 50 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:03.099 Jody Mortimer: but a clickable range. 51 00:06:03.170 --> 00:06:06.070 vicki halliday: Yeah, it should be. That's um. 52 00:06:07.960 --> 00:06:09.179 I'll hold on to it. 53 00:06:14.950 --> 00:06:23.489 Jody Mortimer: Liz won't be here. And is it? Jody? Three, one, five, seven at Gmail. Got you? That'll work. Is it? Will that work? 54 00:06:23.500 --> 00:06:24.910 Yes, okay, 55 00:06:31.380 --> 00:06:33.139 vicki halliday: I just said to you, 56 00:06:41.810 --> 00:06:44.139 frank murphy: I think Brian will be here. 57 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:48.289 vicki halliday: Yeah, I just had an email from him. So did you? 58 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:49.090 frank murphy: Yeah, 59 00:06:49.100 --> 00:06:53.020 Jody Mortimer: okay, I'm going to go ahead and leave this meeting and go in on my phone. 60 00:06:53.030 --> 00:06:53.880 vicki halliday: It's: 61 00:07:12.270 --> 00:07:15.540 frank murphy: so we'll miss Liz and we'll miss Co: that. 62 00:07:15.760 --> 00:07:16.900 vicki halliday: Okay? 63 00:07:24.750 --> 00:07:30.880 vicki halliday: Yeah, If you had noticed the amount of gnats around here this year, 64 00:07:37.880 --> 00:07:47.390 vicki halliday: yeah, One flew into my eye, and I reached up like this. It bit me. That's what this dark spot is. I woke up two mornings with 65 00:07:47.400 --> 00:07:50.949 vicki halliday: all this swollen. Oh, wow, 66 00:07:51.110 --> 00:07:54.540 vicki halliday: little bastards! There's 67 00:07:56.230 --> 00:07:57.940 frank murphy: Yep, 68 00:08:03.150 --> 00:08:05.470 frank murphy: Yep, Yep. Yep. 69 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:08.030 frank murphy: I understand. 70 00:08:17.490 --> 00:08:25.049 vicki halliday: Hey, Stan, I didn't know Frank Murphy. I wouldn't. 71 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:34.919 frank murphy: There you go 72 00:08:35.340 --> 00:08:38.099 Ansar Muhammad: uh It's good to know people. Man: 73 00:08:38.740 --> 00:08:41.169 frank murphy: Yeah, we're grabbing a few people here. 74 00:08:43.150 --> 00:08:47.840 Jody Mortimer: Okay, I just had to. I have to go through my my computer. Hi, Stan! 75 00:08:47.950 --> 00:08:50.469 Jody Mortimer: Hey, Joey, how are you doing? I? 76 00:08:51.090 --> 00:08:52.900 Jody Mortimer: We're going to hear from you tonight. 77 00:08:52.910 --> 00:09:03.200 Ansar Muhammad: Jody's got Larry Snyder on the homeless roundtable after your presentation. Stan. 78 00:09:03.510 --> 00:09:04.779 Ansar Muhammad: Say that again, Frank, 79 00:09:04.920 --> 00:09:16.500 Jody Mortimer: I said. What Jody has gotten. Larry Snyder is going to join us tonight on the homeless roundtable after your presentation. 80 00:09:16.510 --> 00:09:17.380 Ansar Muhammad: Okay, 81 00:09:17.710 --> 00:09:24.260 Jody Mortimer: recently housed in Venice, over at the Silver living on Brooks. 82 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:37.470 frank murphy: Now we got it 83 00:09:42.060 --> 00:09:46.780 frank murphy: all right, all right. Some of these folks here. 84 00:10:02.660 --> 00:10:09.059 frank murphy: I just have a couple things I'll bring up under the chair, report thing, and then 85 00:10:09.430 --> 00:10:12.810 frank murphy: and then uh we're off and running, 86 00:10:16.610 --> 00:10:22.249 frank murphy: and we got the minutes in, So they're they're posted so hopefully. 87 00:10:22.790 --> 00:10:24.439 frank murphy: If we have a 88 00:10:52.630 --> 00:10:56.049 frank murphy: we have a quorum, then we'll get a vote on that 89 00:10:56.610 --> 00:11:01.899 vicki halliday: for him. How many do we need for Forum? 90 00:11:02.100 --> 00:11:09.689 vicki halliday: I think it's five. Okay. So we need somebody else to show up like V. I know Brian or Pat, 91 00:11:10.820 --> 00:11:12.899 frank murphy: and that was 92 00:11:13.710 --> 00:11:19.279 frank murphy: without a tablet, but he was working it out, so i'm not sure if he's here or not, 93 00:11:20.990 --> 00:11:22.719 frank murphy: i'll give him a call, 94 00:11:47.250 --> 00:11:50.049 frank murphy: Hey, Pat, you'll be able to join us. 95 00:12:08.670 --> 00:12:18.280 frank murphy: Oh, no, that's not the right one. Yeah, you should be pick up uh Can you get the Homelessness Committee on your 96 00:12:18.700 --> 00:12:20.820 frank murphy: on your um. 97 00:12:34.990 --> 00:12:36.410 frank murphy: You got it, 98 00:12:40.870 --> 00:12:42.150 Jody Mortimer: hey? Brian 99 00:12:46.300 --> 00:12:51.590 Brian U: can't wait to hear your pal. I don't know, because i'm not seeing it. Let me mute here. 100 00:12:52.270 --> 00:12:54.590 Brian U: Okay, Did you get my message on that one? 101 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:55.690 Brian U: Yeah, it's It's 102 00:12:55.700 --> 00:12:58.589 Brian U: I'll do what I can. Brian. There's some rules. 103 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:03.790 Brian U: I got it. Yeah, he's just really. I I dread it 104 00:13:03.800 --> 00:13:05.850 Brian U: because I got those two. 105 00:13:06.760 --> 00:13:08.500 Brian U: Yep, he's back. 106 00:13:22.170 --> 00:13:23.620 Brian U: How are you, Stan? 107 00:13:23.860 --> 00:13:32.120 Brian U: I'm pretty sure really, really good. Thanks. It doesn't do any good to complain. 108 00:13:32.130 --> 00:13:34.509 Brian U: I love. I love your gal sugar. 109 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:37.489 Ansar Muhammad: Yeah, she's solid man. 110 00:13:37.500 --> 00:13:42.270 Brian U: Yeah, We've been trying to help a lady that was getting kicked out of her house in Anglewood. 111 00:13:42.370 --> 00:13:44.869 vicki halliday: We move each other. 112 00:13:46.420 --> 00:13:55.609 Brian U: Well, that's how she called me. I think she got my number from you 113 00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:01.460 Ansar Muhammad: for our agency, but she she come up out of them streets, man. So 114 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:05.589 Brian U: yeah, she's a sweetheart twenty seven years to 115 00:14:05.860 --> 00:14:09.320 Brian U: twenty-seven. Yeah, it's awesome 116 00:14:09.880 --> 00:14:14.949 Ansar Muhammad: lot of people in her age bracket out of oak wood didn't make it this far. 117 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:15.690 Brian U: It's a 118 00:14:15.700 --> 00:14:20.050 Ansar Muhammad: and she's holding on and giving back. Man, it's beautiful thing. 119 00:14:20.390 --> 00:14:24.060 Ansar Muhammad: I knew I knew it when I was a boy. 120 00:14:24.570 --> 00:14:30.090 Brian U: She's Mom, they call me man. That's awesome. Yeah, she's good. 121 00:14:30.100 --> 00:14:33.990 Brian U: She's a sweetheart lady that has a heart of gold. Absolutely. 122 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:34.970 Brian U: Yeah. 123 00:14:35.420 --> 00:14:36.840 And I 124 00:14:36.850 --> 00:14:39.090 Brian U: yeah, she says nice things 125 00:14:39.100 --> 00:14:40.190 Brian U: about you and 126 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:44.649 Brian U: believe it or not. She says nice things about me, too. So it's. 127 00:14:46.910 --> 00:14:49.419 Ansar Muhammad: Was you able to get that person? Place? 128 00:14:49.430 --> 00:15:02.620 Brian U: Yeah, It was interesting because I guess the person that we placed. She had a boyfriend, and the boyfriend knew you guys, and in actuality it was 129 00:15:02.650 --> 00:15:17.759 Brian U: the girl, not the boyfriend. That was, you know. It was her place, and she had gotten a three day notice to pay her quit, and she had a job, and she gotten fired the week before, and I just tried to help her get into 130 00:15:17.770 --> 00:15:22.680 Brian U: Ah being able to. She thought she was going to get kicked out 131 00:15:23.230 --> 00:15:35.990 Brian U: that some things were in her favor, and so hopefully she got to stay, and she went right to the courthouse that day. She followed directions, and actually did the light work and sugar was in. 132 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:36.790 Brian U: Yeah 133 00:15:36.980 --> 00:15:40.109 Brian U: help to counter a lot go through that process so 134 00:15:40.700 --> 00:15:43.230 Brian U: got a lot of phone calls and stuff. So it's 135 00:15:44.450 --> 00:15:45.730 Brian U: ah 136 00:15:47.030 --> 00:15:49.060 Ansar Muhammad: outreach at his best. 137 00:15:49.490 --> 00:15:54.869 Brian U: Yeah. Sometimes when it works it it's It's amazing 138 00:15:59.620 --> 00:16:02.379 Brian U: that we had a Senator. 139 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:05.190 Brian U: Then 140 00:16:05.740 --> 00:16:08.420 Brian U: Allen, is it? Yeah. 141 00:16:08.430 --> 00:16:16.779 Brian U: And Aaron darling, follow this year outreach team down Third Street. I think we house three people right in front of them. 142 00:16:16.790 --> 00:16:27.680 Brian U: Well, and there was a bridge housing guy that was doing outreach trying to get people in the bridge housing. He walks up and go. Why, don't you have these people inside bridge housing? 143 00:16:28.870 --> 00:16:35.190 Brian U: Because a big difference in this what the big difference in your business? It's like lived experience. It's all it is. 144 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:39.759 Brian U: You can do what other people can't, because been there done that, and 145 00:16:40.100 --> 00:16:44.180 Brian U: you can't have outreach workers that can't speak that language. 146 00:16:46.430 --> 00:16:49.269 Ansar Muhammad: We call it the license to operate 147 00:16:49.280 --> 00:16:50.450 Ansar Muhammad: the Lto. 148 00:16:50.460 --> 00:16:51.419 Brian U: They are, 149 00:16:51.520 --> 00:16:56.079 Ansar Muhammad: I didn't add it to the Powerpoint tonight, but that is a very uh 150 00:16:56.110 --> 00:17:03.610 Ansar Muhammad: critical piece to even have a success, and anything around this homeless issue. You got to have the Lto 151 00:17:03.620 --> 00:17:04.660 Brian U: nicely. 152 00:17:04.710 --> 00:17:07.430 Brian U: That is the only reason we're successful. 153 00:17:08.650 --> 00:17:09.900 Make sense, 154 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:15.730 frank murphy: All right, guys. Well, we got a qualm, 155 00:17:16.560 --> 00:17:26.600 frank murphy: and it's a little bit past seven. That's tempting to get on. Colette won't be able to make it tonight, and Liz will not be able to make it tonight, 156 00:17:26.890 --> 00:17:35.039 frank murphy: so we should get pad here in a little bit. He's working on some bugs, and otherwise we're good to go. 157 00:17:35.620 --> 00:17:48.489 Brian U: So roll call is Franks here, Brian Harrick, Vicki. Here, Stan Jody, 158 00:17:50.180 --> 00:17:51.600 frank murphy: Jodie, 159 00:17:53.310 --> 00:17:58.509 frank murphy: all right. We got everybody. We have the 160 00:17:58.650 --> 00:18:08.079 frank murphy: review comment, adopt the minutes. The eight hundred and twenty seven minutes are posted on the website. 161 00:18:08.740 --> 00:18:11.500 frank murphy: Does anybody have any um 162 00:18:12.310 --> 00:18:15.330 frank murphy: um issues with the minutes. 163 00:18:17.690 --> 00:18:20.010 Brian U: I I'd i'd awesome. 164 00:18:20.040 --> 00:18:22.810 Brian U: We can notice all i'll. Second 165 00:18:22.850 --> 00:18:29.529 frank murphy: All right. Okay, So the vote is nobody's subjecting. So that's good. 166 00:18:29.830 --> 00:18:32.090 frank murphy: All right. Um, 167 00:18:32.420 --> 00:18:35.970 frank murphy: let me just mark that down before I forget 168 00:18:37.970 --> 00:18:40.990 frank murphy: this Isn't here. All right. 169 00:18:41.110 --> 00:18:46.540 frank murphy: So what I have is a chair Report just a couple minutes 170 00:18:46.870 --> 00:18:49.490 frank murphy: couple of points that I wanted to bring up. 171 00:18:50.520 --> 00:19:09.819 frank murphy: Ah, one is There's an ah unsubstantiated rumor that I became aware of the La Times supposedly reported that the Bmc. Homelessness Committee invited, invited, and set up a walk around with Sheriff Villa Nueva had been a speech. 172 00:19:10.050 --> 00:19:19.660 frank murphy: There was no such event orchestrated by this committee, and we have yet to find an article in the La Times that substantiates that. 173 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:28.579 frank murphy: So we'll continue on that and see what camera. But if it's not a rumor. It's not a rumor. But at this point that's all we can say. 174 00:19:29.350 --> 00:19:34.460 frank murphy: We got the new homeless counts were put out by Lhasa. 175 00:19:34.950 --> 00:19:47.449 frank murphy: They represent a substantial decline from two thousand and twenty to two thousand and twenty, two in Cd, eleven of thirty, seven percent. And in Venice of fifty, one percent. 176 00:19:48.660 --> 00:20:05.950 frank murphy: With that being said. As we all know, Venice accounts for five percent of the area, fourteen percent of the population and sixteen percent of the housing stock of all of Cd. Eleven, while still accommodating forty, five percent of the homeless population 177 00:20:07.370 --> 00:20:21.180 frank murphy: keep in mind, though, that the homeless population for all of the city of L. A. Has increased by four percent. So Cd eleven went down by thirty, seven percent, but the overall number increased by four percent. 178 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:26.339 frank murphy: So there is a big shuffle going on of some sort somewhere 179 00:20:26.730 --> 00:20:31.890 frank murphy: which we need to be observing of, and i'll get that report out when I get to it. 180 00:20:32.530 --> 00:20:49.129 frank murphy: Ah! I want to state again, as I've stated at several of the other meetings, that homeless being accommodated on the streets of sidewalks of our community and the city as a whole is the most inhumane brutal and unsafe emergency shelter situation 181 00:20:49.150 --> 00:20:52.629 frank murphy: for both the unhoused and the housed population. 182 00:20:52.900 --> 00:20:59.829 frank murphy: This is not a zero-sum games, jail versus street, as some would have you believe. 183 00:20:59.840 --> 00:21:17.549 frank murphy: I've been aware of multiple solutions for cost effective emergency shelter presented to the powers that be from this committee from the Board members of the Bnc. And from knowledgeable folks of the Venice community Over the years I've been 184 00:21:17.610 --> 00:21:24.980 frank murphy: aware of those. Anyhow, I just wanted to make those statements, and that is it for the chair 185 00:21:25.020 --> 00:21:26.550 frank murphy: report. 186 00:21:27.290 --> 00:21:32.750 frank murphy: And now I wanted to 187 00:21:32.840 --> 00:21:35.010 frank murphy: go into 188 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:41.799 frank murphy: Stan. Muhammad has been working in the Venice community for decades, 189 00:21:42.140 --> 00:21:50.430 frank murphy: and has been participating in the local governance of this area for decades also, and has been 190 00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:57.590 frank murphy: a huge asset to the community, and we wanted to. He's going to make a presentation 191 00:21:58.060 --> 00:22:04.350 frank murphy: about himself, and the efforts that he and his organization have put forth 192 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:09.479 frank murphy: continued to do so in the Venice community in the La at large, 193 00:22:10.450 --> 00:22:21.690 frank murphy: and we will, after presenting Stan, will participate in an exchange focused on homelessness as it impacts Venice with the committee members and the public. 194 00:22:22.500 --> 00:22:28.740 frank murphy: Stan requested that the public be invited in on questions. 195 00:22:29.120 --> 00:22:30.950 frank murphy: The um 196 00:22:31.030 --> 00:22:42.940 frank murphy: questions from committee members will come first with public following. Each questioner will have one minute to present a question, and we'll have thirty seconds for a follow-up question. 197 00:22:43.010 --> 00:22:47.919 frank murphy: We will be strict with this so stay to the point and keep it short. 198 00:22:48.280 --> 00:22:49.680 frank murphy: Stan: 199 00:22:51.560 --> 00:23:00.890 Ansar Muhammad: Well, first thank you. Chair, Frank Murphy, and all of the committee members for this opportunity 200 00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:04.739 Ansar Muhammad: to do a brief presentation on the 201 00:23:06.120 --> 00:23:14.060 Ansar Muhammad: that I've been involved in over the past twenty to twenty five years. My name is Sam Mohammed. I'm. The executive director, 202 00:23:14.290 --> 00:23:18.210 Ansar Muhammad: the Helper Foundation, also known as venice two thousand 203 00:23:18.290 --> 00:23:25.280 Ansar Muhammad: um Coming out of a multi-generational gang and drug founding in the area of venice called oak wood. 204 00:23:25.490 --> 00:23:29.200 Ansar Muhammad: I grew up there on Westminster by twenty, four, 205 00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:36.109 Ansar Muhammad: and didn't see anything worthwhile in the industry, so that in drugs and gains 206 00:23:36.140 --> 00:23:42.950 Ansar Muhammad: had a beautiful mom, rested in peace, Had a beautiful grandmother, very devoted Christian women. 207 00:23:43.060 --> 00:23:59.159 Ansar Muhammad: Ah! Attended the Beth of Baptist Church, but the streets ah! Was more ah intriguing! Ah! Knowing my uncles and my cousins, and everyone that I was living up to was involved in a life. Ultimately I was in the 208 00:23:59.250 --> 00:24:11.379 Ansar Muhammad: and twenty-six years ago I was released from prison Lomp, a Federal penitentiary, and during my stadium I told myself i'd never get back in the life if they let me out while I was blessed to get out. 209 00:24:11.560 --> 00:24:28.010 Ansar Muhammad: Ah! I began to do outreach work right there where I was selling drugs on Westminster, on Broadway and Brooks, and I told myself, this is what I have to do to redeem in a tone I have to go right back to the block 210 00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:48.030 Ansar Muhammad: where I used to be, and so the outreach have been started, and today. What you all to hear is a presentation on what I believe is a pitcher. There is a difference between outreach and intentional outreach. So when I came home I was intentional. 211 00:24:48.150 --> 00:25:04.150 Ansar Muhammad: Ah! Around at that time it was around the whole game ah injunction, and was also around the senior citizens in our area who was being ticketed because they had converted. They 212 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:23.680 Ansar Muhammad: um garage into a living uh welling for a grandson or granddaughter, et cetera. Uh! From that effort we was blessed to have nothing but success, and we were put on these massive town, our meetings to address the issue, and ultimately what came out of those massive Town Hall meetings for us 213 00:25:23.730 --> 00:25:27.839 Ansar Muhammad: Venice two thousand, also known as the help of foundation today. 214 00:25:28.520 --> 00:25:35.869 Ansar Muhammad: What i'm going to present on this evening is the subject around what is intentional outreach, two thousand and twenty, two, and beyond 215 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:55.720 Ansar Muhammad: through. And this is important the lens of an outreach expert. Um! I consider myself an expert in this field because I've been doing it for twenty years. A lot of training across the country we have participated in. And so tonight it's just this an honor to be able to present 216 00:25:55.730 --> 00:25:57.509 some of my colleagues 217 00:25:58.890 --> 00:26:01.010 Ansar Muhammad: next slide, please. 218 00:26:01.610 --> 00:26:03.040 Ansar Muhammad: Ah, 219 00:26:03.810 --> 00:26:10.159 Ansar Muhammad: so the object of tonight is what is intention? Outreach, objective number two. What What has it worked? 220 00:26:10.250 --> 00:26:24.610 Ansar Muhammad: We know It's a lot of people claim to be doing outreach. But how effective are they? Strategies Number four. Knowing your role in focusing on the target population. Then, of course, number four of 221 00:26:24.730 --> 00:26:29.939 Ansar Muhammad: and then at the end, I have photos for you guys to see some illustrations next slide. 222 00:26:30.860 --> 00:26:37.190 Ansar Muhammad: Whenever i'm doing presentations. Whenever we're training across the country, 223 00:26:37.210 --> 00:26:40.480 Ansar Muhammad: we always start off with a definition. 224 00:26:40.550 --> 00:26:45.209 Ansar Muhammad: So the definition here will give you an indication 225 00:26:45.360 --> 00:26:52.639 Ansar Muhammad: of what it is that i'm talking about and what is intentional outreach. A group of people come together deliberately 226 00:26:52.850 --> 00:26:55.829 Ansar Muhammad: a residential situation that 227 00:26:55.840 --> 00:27:09.380 Ansar Muhammad: around a specific vision agenda or shared values a lot of times. What I've witnessed being out there we do have outreach workers in the community, but they don't have a shared business. 228 00:27:09.470 --> 00:27:13.640 Ansar Muhammad: They don't have a shared agenda. 229 00:27:13.850 --> 00:27:18.650 Ansar Muhammad: They are in our communities for one primary reason, and that is to 230 00:27:18.860 --> 00:27:21.200 Ansar Muhammad: be paid and go home, 231 00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:35.489 Ansar Muhammad: and that's some first, and i'm hoping that will change when we get some new local city leadership in August next next slide. 232 00:27:35.500 --> 00:27:37.020 Ansar Muhammad: I have here 233 00:27:37.300 --> 00:27:53.560 Ansar Muhammad: seven strategies that I use to affect ah intentional outreach. And these strategies can be implemented in any community, whether it be homeless folk, whether it be gang and ball folk, whether it be people who just need 234 00:27:53.570 --> 00:28:09.500 Ansar Muhammad: to. The outreach to this can be implemented if we take time out to do so. Number One meet people where they're at. That's very important. Never come into a situation, judging the person that you are outreaching to 235 00:28:09.510 --> 00:28:12.059 Ansar Muhammad: number two, being respectful. 236 00:28:12.090 --> 00:28:27.339 Ansar Muhammad: Um a lot of times. I know what the homeless. Ah, population people have a tendency to look down on these folks, and um always make it very clear when i'm doing outreach is that you're my homeless. 237 00:28:27.780 --> 00:28:29.419 Ansar Muhammad: You are a human being. 238 00:28:29.670 --> 00:28:34.000 Ansar Muhammad: You may be without a house, but you're still a human being. 239 00:28:34.040 --> 00:28:40.059 Ansar Muhammad: Always try to make it to where we're, even as it relates to being a human. The 240 00:28:40.670 --> 00:28:55.509 Ansar Muhammad: ah! Because there are why this care, regardless of what they're going through. These are human beings that we're dealing with. Listen to the individual's concerns a lot of times, folks, and then I've witnessed this. They don't take time out to listen to the concerns. 241 00:28:55.520 --> 00:29:06.259 Ansar Muhammad: Um, and that's a big one, because listening sometime will give you an opportunity to really understand what a person's going through when you have active listening, taking place. 242 00:29:06.310 --> 00:29:10.400 Ansar Muhammad: Ah, Number four build Trust in relationships. 243 00:29:10.430 --> 00:29:18.830 Ansar Muhammad: Me and Brian was talking earlier. This is a very critical piece to any effect of outreach. If you don't have trust 244 00:29:19.380 --> 00:29:37.290 Ansar Muhammad: and relationships being built, you would never be effective or successful at doing any outreach, and it doesn't matter with this homeless amount you have to build trust, and it takes time to be a trust. You just can't come out one day, and then you think you got it. It takes time, 245 00:29:37.300 --> 00:29:42.739 Ansar Muhammad: and I tell folks all the time. Fifty percent of the success that I have 246 00:29:43.150 --> 00:29:45.729 Ansar Muhammad: uh what the organization is that 247 00:29:45.800 --> 00:29:48.720 Ansar Muhammad: i'm in the area working where i'm from 248 00:29:49.260 --> 00:29:53.460 Ansar Muhammad: I'm. From Venice, and that's fifty percent of the success People, trust me, 249 00:29:53.500 --> 00:29:57.510 Ansar Muhammad: get the word out in the nost stigmatizing manner. 250 00:29:57.830 --> 00:30:06.660 Ansar Muhammad: It's very important. Again, stigmatizing people on this homeless, you know. No, he's a human being. We got to talk to them 251 00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:10.149 Ansar Muhammad: just like we would talk to our brother or our sister. 252 00:30:10.490 --> 00:30:15.680 Ansar Muhammad: The next point offers services and information to the homeless population. The 253 00:30:17.100 --> 00:30:19.599 it's just the services in Dennis. 254 00:30:20.420 --> 00:30:23.559 Ansar Muhammad: Okay. But how many of them is on this line tonight? 255 00:30:23.610 --> 00:30:25.110 Ansar Muhammad: I see one. 256 00:30:25.750 --> 00:30:32.050 Ansar Muhammad: I hope Brian can share the story, because through my case manager 257 00:30:32.170 --> 00:30:38.600 Ansar Muhammad: he's going to be able to help a family potentially through my case. Manager 258 00:30:38.760 --> 00:30:40.150 Ansar Muhammad: contrasted sugar, 259 00:30:40.460 --> 00:30:45.620 Ansar Muhammad: but he is the only service provider besides myself that's on this call. 260 00:30:49.580 --> 00:30:53.070 Ansar Muhammad: Put that out there, because without the 261 00:30:53.860 --> 00:30:58.200 Ansar Muhammad: you set yourself up for failure. Next slide, please, 262 00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:07.229 Ansar Muhammad: planning and implementing effect about these strategies, determining your purpose and methods of outreach before him 263 00:31:07.710 --> 00:31:13.210 Ansar Muhammad: everything where we get the opportunity to teach and train these these 264 00:31:13.500 --> 00:31:18.649 Ansar Muhammad: folks that's in our community. That's not from the community that's doing outreach. 265 00:31:18.900 --> 00:31:20.840 Ansar Muhammad: This will be part of the training. 266 00:31:21.260 --> 00:31:31.679 Ansar Muhammad: Do you have a plan before you go out before you start outreaching to anyone, whether you be on the borough, whether you're on Thursday, whether you're Fourth Street, or wherever you make 267 00:31:31.690 --> 00:31:42.200 Ansar Muhammad: may be. Do you have a plan? Have you thought your planner? Let us outcome what is the in book, or you just out there saying, Hi! My name is, 268 00:31:42.890 --> 00:31:46.309 Ansar Muhammad: consider potential partners very important. 269 00:31:46.490 --> 00:31:50.190 Ansar Muhammad: You have to know these people. There's been plenty of days, man, 270 00:31:50.280 --> 00:32:00.289 Ansar Muhammad: that I would be out there myself and I in the minute I find a come across someone who may have they, they think and write. 271 00:32:00.560 --> 00:32:03.930 Ansar Muhammad: Guess who I call before I call anybody. 272 00:32:04.190 --> 00:32:08.610 Ansar Muhammad: This guy of son is called a knight called Bryan. His name is Brian. I would call it the 273 00:32:09.100 --> 00:32:18.519 Ansar Muhammad: saying that I guess a guy over here might better. You might better use the services right. There's been times where he will just come out and assess the situation, 274 00:32:18.750 --> 00:32:27.779 Ansar Muhammad: you know. Thank you for that guy. It goes along a little bit. Make the most of your outreach efforts. Okay, this cannot just be a nine to five. 275 00:32:30.340 --> 00:32:33.890 Ansar Muhammad: Next slide. I'm about to do this next slide 276 00:32:34.950 --> 00:32:36.440 that Hasn't worked 277 00:32:38.850 --> 00:32:44.119 Ansar Muhammad: things. I just mentioned that during out visa, just as just another part of the job. 278 00:32:44.510 --> 00:33:02.879 Ansar Muhammad: Well, i'm hoping whoever becomes cd level, we we do a full assessment on all the local service providers to determine. Why, Don't, they have a local hiring policy 279 00:33:03.310 --> 00:33:04.590 Ansar Muhammad: and play. 280 00:33:04.860 --> 00:33:10.110 Ansar Muhammad: When I show you the illustration of the fellows, everybody that works for our agency 281 00:33:10.450 --> 00:33:13.830 Ansar Muhammad: in business to the community very important. 282 00:33:13.910 --> 00:33:17.919 Ansar Muhammad: And i'm not saying people can't come from the outside of working this, 283 00:33:18.380 --> 00:33:27.590 Ansar Muhammad: but they better build trust in repair relationships before they call it themselves. Doing out. Doing outreach is just another part of a job you got to get past 284 00:33:27.670 --> 00:33:29.799 for me. Outreach is not a job, 285 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:32.250 Ansar Muhammad: probably, for me is 286 00:33:32.500 --> 00:33:33.860 Ansar Muhammad: a real life, 287 00:33:34.550 --> 00:33:53.320 Ansar Muhammad: avoiding outreach all together. We have folks right now, ladies and gentlemen, in Venice working eight hours a day, and guess what they do. And I've witnessed this. Take the only bikes. They walk past the encampments, they walk past individuals who, you know, and we know that these services, 288 00:33:53.490 --> 00:33:56.270 Ansar Muhammad: because they just punch it in and punch it out 289 00:33:57.370 --> 00:34:01.289 Ansar Muhammad: outreach into the wrong population. So 290 00:34:01.300 --> 00:34:13.959 Ansar Muhammad: you got to know your population. You got to be able to go down on any at any given time, at any given moment. In In the day time or not, you have to have the willingness to go out 291 00:34:14.610 --> 00:34:18.380 Ansar Muhammad: and deal with the population that is homeless. And at this 292 00:34:18.429 --> 00:34:19.950 Ansar Muhammad: next slide, please. 293 00:34:22.949 --> 00:34:24.809 Ansar Muhammad: Wow! This is a big one 294 00:34:26.120 --> 00:34:27.609 Ansar Muhammad: Northern Ireland. 295 00:34:29.730 --> 00:34:36.860 Ansar Muhammad: And again I don't know if we have any average workers on the on the call. Maybe next time we do this we can invite them. 296 00:34:37.310 --> 00:34:42.330 Ansar Muhammad: But more. Your role in focusing on the target population is very important, 297 00:34:44.929 --> 00:34:46.819 Ansar Muhammad: and I have here 298 00:34:47.909 --> 00:34:55.070 Ansar Muhammad: the targeted population of individuals who have become homeless and is living on the streets for various reasons. 299 00:34:55.750 --> 00:34:57.620 Ansar Muhammad: Number two. 300 00:34:58.110 --> 00:35:10.859 Ansar Muhammad: Our safety monitors connect with the service connects with and serve the homeless population with the goal in line to assist them with resources by needing them where they're at 301 00:35:11.630 --> 00:35:13.040 Ansar Muhammad: Number Three. 302 00:35:14.190 --> 00:35:17.290 Ansar Muhammad: The safety monitor role is to assess the 303 00:35:17.370 --> 00:35:19.269 Ansar Muhammad: now. It takes time. 304 00:35:19.750 --> 00:35:28.940 Ansar Muhammad: Assess you just can't have one conversation with a person, and then determine That's it. You have to go back to follow up 305 00:35:29.160 --> 00:35:31.710 Ansar Muhammad: that that follow up, take place. 306 00:35:32.120 --> 00:35:42.890 Ansar Muhammad: The safety monitor roads to assess their needs, and are to provide reforms and local services and the resources for the sole purpose of redirecting individuals. Now, 307 00:35:43.410 --> 00:35:44.899 Ansar Muhammad: when a person 308 00:35:45.230 --> 00:35:48.560 Ansar Muhammad: a more positively healthier lifestyle than a person 309 00:35:48.820 --> 00:35:50.770 Ansar Muhammad: is redirected 310 00:35:51.160 --> 00:35:55.159 Ansar Muhammad: for us as a successful referral, but is still required 311 00:35:55.570 --> 00:36:12.880 Ansar Muhammad: more follow up to make sure that that person is receiving all the proper services, even when there is a one. And now what I want to do for the sake of time is this: show you some illustrations of individuals. 312 00:36:12.890 --> 00:36:17.770 Ansar Muhammad: These are my staff. These are people who don't get the credit. 313 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:19.770 Ansar Muhammad: These are folks who 314 00:36:19.900 --> 00:36:30.859 Ansar Muhammad: it's born and raised in Venice. We're. We're on black and brown dynamics. These are people who know Venice at least the area that we grew up in like the back of the hand, 315 00:36:30.950 --> 00:36:32.890 Ansar Muhammad: and these are the folks that I hide. 316 00:36:33.240 --> 00:36:40.000 Ansar Muhammad: Here are some of our team here. We are in the process, and this one here getting prepared to pass out 317 00:36:40.330 --> 00:36:41.930 Ansar Muhammad: lunches. 318 00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:51.499 Ansar Muhammad: Everybody that we come in contact with in some of the targeted areas was well, and we were well from seventeen at the Park, and we all the way to the 319 00:36:51.970 --> 00:36:55.520 Ansar Muhammad: and we would hit everybody up in between next slide 320 00:36:57.780 --> 00:37:05.380 Ansar Muhammad: the block. Now here I am with some guys of the North for a long time 321 00:37:05.720 --> 00:37:12.929 Ansar Muhammad: roll-calling names, but they fell on hard times, and they found themselves 322 00:37:14.080 --> 00:37:15.459 Ansar Muhammad: bonus 323 00:37:15.850 --> 00:37:18.339 Ansar Muhammad: uh lebanon and katmans, and 324 00:37:18.540 --> 00:37:30.889 Ansar Muhammad: we're for man man, and and so when we we deal with the addiction of Ah math and the drugs that's out there. Now the tell the guys these guys right here that i'm a secret hybrid 325 00:37:31.630 --> 00:37:34.910 Ansar Muhammad: I would come. I'm so glad that I got sober 326 00:37:35.090 --> 00:37:35.689 the 327 00:37:35.700 --> 00:37:42.140 Ansar Muhammad: because I couldn't handle left. I mean back it with myth was on the from the black one. I was at the other side. We did 328 00:37:43.150 --> 00:37:53.260 Ansar Muhammad: some of my guys man that just fell on hard times, and all those would look out for them or reach out to them and give them things and even money, if they needed it. Okay, I love them. 329 00:37:53.290 --> 00:37:55.820 Ansar Muhammad: Uh next slide, please. 330 00:37:58.160 --> 00:38:06.890 Ansar Muhammad: Another team member didn't prepared to. This was doing Covid. We looked at the local food bank, and we would give out boxes of food. 331 00:38:07.060 --> 00:38:15.740 Ansar Muhammad: We would already start in our community, but we would find ourselves walking down to the beach, and we would hit everything up in between next slide. 332 00:38:16.690 --> 00:38:20.960 Ansar Muhammad: If you look at these faces. These are young African-american men 333 00:38:21.030 --> 00:38:23.020 Ansar Muhammad: from the gang members. 334 00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:24.729 Ansar Muhammad: Okay, 335 00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:28.080 Ansar Muhammad: former beneficial lines, people who 336 00:38:28.190 --> 00:38:36.499 Ansar Muhammad: had an opportunity to get back to their community, and now they are full-time employees, thirty thousand benefits, life insurance policies. 337 00:38:36.540 --> 00:38:39.009 Ansar Muhammad: These individuals are responsible. 338 00:38:39.060 --> 00:38:46.339 Ansar Muhammad: What we have in play now called the non-aggression agreement. If you all know we haven't had a murder 339 00:38:46.490 --> 00:39:03.079 Ansar Muhammad: between the two rival gangs, and probably over ten years at least eight. And when I say viable gangs, i'm meaning Venice in Covert city historically, and I was sharing this with some of the team that we have in my list of this yesterday. 340 00:39:03.550 --> 00:39:05.959 Ansar Muhammad: Historically, every year 341 00:39:06.210 --> 00:39:25.300 Ansar Muhammad: we would Haven't met at least one, and it was always either the Colony City or Dennis going into Covid City. But because of these guys that i'm. I'm highlighting here. These are our ambassadors, and they make sure that there's just there's any gun of graffiti, any activity going on. They get on it right away. 342 00:39:25.690 --> 00:39:27.610 Ansar Muhammad: Next live, please. 343 00:39:29.080 --> 00:39:36.139 Ansar Muhammad: A young man, here's a old man here came out just to help pass out the food. 344 00:39:36.250 --> 00:39:45.090 Ansar Muhammad: Walter, you would think he was eighteen, but he's part in his late Seventh jumped up on that dance. I'm gonna help. Okay, Come on. Bro: 345 00:39:45.250 --> 00:39:54.859 Ansar Muhammad: But that's the food distribution. Now, again, when we did a distribution, we hit all of the the government apartments, but we also hit 346 00:39:55.010 --> 00:40:03.500 Ansar Muhammad: the areas where we moved, and at that time that there was in canvas we would make sure that these folks get fooled 347 00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:05.410 Ansar Muhammad: next slide. 348 00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:12.680 Ansar Muhammad: This is a preparation, thanks to the 349 00:40:12.940 --> 00:40:15.549 Ansar Muhammad: Councilman her lesson. Uh, 350 00:40:15.820 --> 00:40:18.930 Ansar Muhammad: he would bring us a trump 351 00:40:19.270 --> 00:40:26.690 Ansar Muhammad: from the food every week, and our team would get these boxes. In some cases we would walk it. In some cases we would deliver it, 352 00:40:27.010 --> 00:40:30.660 Ansar Muhammad: but these boxes will feed up to a family of four 353 00:40:30.780 --> 00:40:36.399 Ansar Muhammad: for a week and a half to maybe two weeks, if they prepare their meals from it. 354 00:40:36.740 --> 00:40:38.360 Ansar Muhammad: Next slide, please 355 00:40:40.590 --> 00:40:45.309 Ansar Muhammad: this individual here. I really wanted to highlight. 356 00:40:45.670 --> 00:40:48.450 Ansar Muhammad: His name is Alfie Jones. 357 00:40:48.510 --> 00:40:55.709 Ansar Muhammad: I took Frank over to his encampment about three years ago. This brother here I grew up with 358 00:40:55.770 --> 00:40:56.939 Ansar Muhammad: beautiful soul. 359 00:40:57.140 --> 00:40:58.910 Ansar Muhammad: Beautiful energy 360 00:40:58.940 --> 00:41:02.690 Ansar Muhammad: had a hard time, had a rough life like myself growing up, 361 00:41:02.750 --> 00:41:12.729 Ansar Muhammad: and I told him if he ever And so this is an individual who, you would think would just be a user for the rest of his life. 362 00:41:13.770 --> 00:41:18.470 Ansar Muhammad: I totally, if you get yourself together, i'm a hired. 363 00:41:18.680 --> 00:41:20.180 Ansar Muhammad: Well guess what 364 00:41:21.130 --> 00:41:38.359 Ansar Muhammad: Alfie Jones is now working for the health foundation. This is year number two. He leaves the uh the side contract that we have. We have a small subcontract spy, and he leaves that he, uh his primary focus is with the thirty two hours of room, 365 00:41:38.370 --> 00:41:47.649 Ansar Muhammad: and he goes out to identify on this youth that could very well be gang involved. That's Alfie Jones. And then the next slide. I'm going to highlight him again. 366 00:41:48.340 --> 00:41:55.999 Ansar Muhammad: We know that before I go, because that's not it. I didn't put down the slider. This group here I won't. Try to look at these folks where Alfie is there again. 367 00:41:56.170 --> 00:41:59.209 Ansar Muhammad: Now, these are individuals. 368 00:41:59.610 --> 00:42:07.919 Ansar Muhammad: Okay, I'll call them safety monitors because they come out of the 369 00:42:08.200 --> 00:42:21.999 Ansar Muhammad: besides myself. I was homeless for a minute until my grandmother took me in back in the eighty five. But these folks was all homeless at one time, 370 00:42:22.460 --> 00:42:25.339 Ansar Muhammad: and these are the ones that when I say 371 00:42:25.830 --> 00:42:43.089 Ansar Muhammad: Warren Brad Dennis, that's what you're looking at right there, born in Bradford, and these are the individuals that I rely on when it's time for us to go Talk to folks that is not, 372 00:42:43.160 --> 00:42:46.290 Ansar Muhammad: and so um! That will complete 373 00:42:46.380 --> 00:42:49.569 Ansar Muhammad: the brief presentation. I wanted to 374 00:42:49.650 --> 00:43:01.209 Ansar Muhammad: go through this quickly, because we have another presenter, and I want to really open myself up for any questions. If you want to know more about the company, you can go to Hepper Foundation, dot org, 375 00:43:01.370 --> 00:43:08.390 Ansar Muhammad: If you want to see more of the work that we do. You can go to the Instagram page of our foundation underscore. 376 00:43:08.520 --> 00:43:14.610 Ansar Muhammad: But I wanted to open myself up to any questions, because at the end of the day transparency 377 00:43:15.030 --> 00:43:17.410 Ansar Muhammad: transparency is important. 378 00:43:17.510 --> 00:43:23.719 Ansar Muhammad: I'm hoping that we can have this conversation again with a broader audience. 379 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:28.699 Ansar Muhammad: Maybe invite some of the outreach workers 380 00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:35.690 Ansar Muhammad: that's coming into Venice, that don't quite understand what it is that they may be up again. So 381 00:43:36.140 --> 00:43:40.059 Ansar Muhammad: i'm welcome, Frank, and thank you again for allowing me this opportunity to present, 382 00:43:40.980 --> 00:43:50.080 frank murphy: and we're just getting going. We got a lot more to go here. So this is time for questions from the committee. 383 00:43:50.190 --> 00:43:53.199 vicki halliday: I uh, let's go 384 00:43:53.210 --> 00:43:54.439 vicki halliday: and 385 00:43:55.700 --> 00:43:58.119 vicki halliday: let's see, Stan. 386 00:43:58.160 --> 00:44:13.970 vicki halliday: I know that you you call Bryant when share is a possibility. But when it comes to other housing things, I mean, Who do you rely on in French housing? Um St. Joseph's for vouchers? 387 00:44:14.310 --> 00:44:16.700 vicki halliday: How long did you have to go to 388 00:44:17.470 --> 00:44:18.750 Ansar Muhammad: men? 389 00:44:18.970 --> 00:44:23.930 Ansar Muhammad: It's unfortunate that I have to say that, 390 00:44:24.430 --> 00:44:33.100 Ansar Muhammad: but I don't want to deal with a case manager. I don't want to deal with it. Now I want to deal with the person who can make the decision. At the time of the decision to be made 391 00:44:33.160 --> 00:44:38.379 Ansar Muhammad: for an example, I had a situation this today. This evening 392 00:44:38.570 --> 00:44:42.370 Ansar Muhammad: I was told that one of my guys 393 00:44:43.510 --> 00:44:50.330 Ansar Muhammad: might have a warning. Okay, I'm like, Well, let me let me do something. You know who i'll call Captain. 394 00:44:50.500 --> 00:45:10.379 Ansar Muhammad: Okay, i'm going right to the top. And even though he doesn't have a warrant, but I went right to the top because a lot of times, and in this unfortunate, but I don't have to. I don't have access to the executive directors and people who can make the decision, because when you're out there doing outreach. 395 00:45:10.710 --> 00:45:16.899 Ansar Muhammad: You want to be able to plug direct. Okay, you don't want to set. At least I don't want to set myself up. 396 00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:21.750 Ansar Muhammad: I I call somebody that really Don't have the power 397 00:45:21.950 --> 00:45:33.820 Ansar Muhammad: could do anything. And then what happens if it goes back to the Lto. The license operate? I can lose that license to operate. If I don't have the power, 398 00:45:34.140 --> 00:45:37.999 Ansar Muhammad: I can only, you know, refer back to Brian because I've done it. 399 00:45:38.270 --> 00:45:43.600 Ansar Muhammad: He would come out in some cases and and really start doing so. 400 00:45:43.970 --> 00:45:50.639 Ansar Muhammad: Have those other linkages. Now the spy, because this this age, 401 00:45:52.410 --> 00:46:01.250 Ansar Muhammad: the Nasa direct connect, because I've been called outfit. We've come across a youth that's homeless, or could be well. Being a gang involved, I can call my God, 402 00:46:01.310 --> 00:46:08.539 Ansar Muhammad: which works for my agency, which is Alfie, and then Alfie will walk that person through the process. 403 00:46:08.620 --> 00:46:09.849 vicki halliday: Thank you. 404 00:46:09.860 --> 00:46:13.149 Jody Mortimer: Very well, 405 00:46:20.610 --> 00:46:22.739 frank murphy: Tony. I can barely hear you. 406 00:46:22.750 --> 00:46:24.490 Jody Mortimer: How about now? Can you hear me? Now? 407 00:46:24.500 --> 00:46:25.740 Brian U: You're good. 408 00:46:25.750 --> 00:46:27.089 Yeah, let's see what we're doing. 409 00:46:27.100 --> 00:46:27.790 My! I 410 00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:29.589 Jody Mortimer: I live on my way of five to nine. 411 00:46:29.600 --> 00:46:32.630 Jody Mortimer: I can't. I can't. I can't hear you. 412 00:46:32.640 --> 00:46:34.640 vicki halliday: You got a good smell, Jody 413 00:46:35.230 --> 00:46:36.959 Jody Mortimer: still Can't hear me. 414 00:46:37.370 --> 00:46:40.990 vicki halliday: Yeah, don't move. 415 00:46:41.370 --> 00:46:57.329 Jody Mortimer: I want to say thank you. I remember your guys coming to deliver food here on Fifth and Broadway, where I live, and they did it During Covid there was a really very great thing to do. I have a question about 416 00:46:58.210 --> 00:47:08.370 Jody Mortimer: what's the difference between the circle and the foundation, and again you re iterate. Why, your foundation 417 00:47:08.430 --> 00:47:09.819 of the 418 00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:13.240 Ansar Muhammad: you know we kind of break it. I heard I heard some of it. 419 00:47:13.650 --> 00:47:21.030 Ansar Muhammad: The difference between health. A foundation in circle is, we are grassroots indigenous. 420 00:47:21.310 --> 00:47:27.059 Ansar Muhammad: I don't know where circle came from. If it was the 421 00:47:27.340 --> 00:47:30.670 Ansar Muhammad: the group that came from San Francisco 422 00:47:30.930 --> 00:47:44.219 Ansar Muhammad: Urban Albumy. I know there are bases in San Francisco, but that's the difference. We are indigenous to the community. We are grassrooted. We are founded in Venice, 423 00:47:44.230 --> 00:48:01.969 Jody Mortimer: and when I look connected I've spoken to both candidates about this, 424 00:48:02.090 --> 00:48:07.889 Jody Mortimer: that again. You would be interested in that kind of role absolutely. 425 00:48:07.900 --> 00:48:25.779 Ansar Muhammad: I want to give Spy a shout out because they had enough intelligence to say, You know that we in this neighborhood we don't know the dynamics of it. But we here. But we're going to contract with the agency that know. And so spy We've been in a subcontract with them for the last three years, 426 00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:38.980 Ansar Muhammad: and it should be that way with every organization that's in Venice is providing services and minutes. They should do the contract with us, or in some cases. Some will say they need to give us a contract altogether. 427 00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:44.399 Ansar Muhammad: We're not that type, I mean. You know it's enough for everybody in terms of that piece. 428 00:48:45.050 --> 00:48:49.589 Ansar Muhammad: We're not connected there dirty, but also that a change. 429 00:48:49.600 --> 00:48:51.679 Yeah, I hope so, too. I'll be in your corner. 430 00:48:53.470 --> 00:48:55.459 Ansar Muhammad: We've you're breaking up. We can't hear you, 431 00:48:55.650 --> 00:48:57.700 I said, I I don't. I don't. 432 00:48:57.800 --> 00:48:59.390 vicki halliday: I'll hear you, Jenny. 433 00:49:10.700 --> 00:49:13.899 Jody Mortimer: I'm done that, Mike. We can't hear you, 434 00:49:14.790 --> 00:49:20.210 Ansar Muhammad: he said. He's done okay, as I understood it 435 00:49:21.180 --> 00:49:29.229 Brian U: in the audience. 436 00:49:29.240 --> 00:49:29.790 Yeah, 437 00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:45.299 Brian U: Stan: I Yeah, I admire everything about you. We met doing outreach down on Penmark, and I I got the eyewitness a lot of the stuff you did, and just have utmost respect. I think the main thing that I think the community needs to understand is 438 00:49:45.380 --> 00:50:01.459 Brian U: maybe how bad is the gang problem in Venice and the drug trade. Ah, the bridge housing is full of gang members or their sales team that they employ to distribute drugs. The gang members run the boardwalk, they go and run all the streets, 439 00:50:01.470 --> 00:50:08.000 Brian U: and i'm not asking you to rout out who any of them are. But the fact is, the homeless or the sales team for the gangs. 440 00:50:08.040 --> 00:50:25.909 Brian U: Can you educate a little bit of this group as to how much money a gang member can make, or how much money one of their sales guys makes, because and then the repercussions that happen when the the homeless person that 441 00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:45.680 Brian U: it's given a a bundle to go sell, and then comes back without money, or it comes back and doesn't honor the agreement that was made, and I think you know Your big effect is the old boys. But there's still a lot of young young gang members who want to cut their own their own way through, and 442 00:50:45.730 --> 00:50:54.040 Brian U: So if you could just spend a moment and and tell these people that there are gang members in every permanent support of housing member 443 00:50:54.100 --> 00:51:01.949 Brian U: one of their sales, People in every bridge housing and in all the encampments throughout are all controlled by this population. 444 00:51:02.660 --> 00:51:05.890 Ansar Muhammad: Yeah, So thank you, Bryce, ahead of her. With that uh 445 00:51:05.900 --> 00:51:08.280 Ansar Muhammad: question. I I can't tell you 446 00:51:08.850 --> 00:51:13.989 Ansar Muhammad: where money is being made. But if it was in the mid eightys, I can tell you. 447 00:51:14.200 --> 00:51:15.649 Ansar Muhammad: Ah, 448 00:51:16.150 --> 00:51:25.959 Ansar Muhammad: because that's when I was out there doing what I was doing, upsetting, and he was. And so I don't know what kind of money is being generated. But you are one hundred percent correct. 449 00:51:26.020 --> 00:51:28.729 Ansar Muhammad: There is an element attached 450 00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:39.309 Ansar Muhammad: to every encampment, and in some cases you have fallen gang members who have fallen away from the gang. Lifestyle 451 00:51:39.450 --> 00:51:45.010 Ansar Muhammad: is homeless, like Alfie Jones, for an example, former gang member. 452 00:51:45.350 --> 00:51:49.740 Ansar Muhammad: But that's happening throughout, but it's not just in Venice, but throughout the 453 00:51:49.910 --> 00:51:55.730 Ansar Muhammad: probably the county. Why is this happening? Well, when you take away the 454 00:51:57.100 --> 00:52:01.439 Ansar Muhammad: resources, take away opportunity. The 455 00:52:01.600 --> 00:52:03.959 Ansar Muhammad: uh take away. 456 00:52:04.210 --> 00:52:08.119 Ansar Muhammad: But in some cases family structures is destroyed, 457 00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:12.100 Ansar Muhammad: and a person. Let's say, if i'm gonna use myself, let's say 458 00:52:12.470 --> 00:52:14.420 Ansar Muhammad: I was out there right now. 459 00:52:14.530 --> 00:52:16.670 Ansar Muhammad: But i'm going to use my cloud 460 00:52:17.040 --> 00:52:20.979 Ansar Muhammad: to do everything that I can number one to make money 461 00:52:21.130 --> 00:52:23.079 Ansar Muhammad: to support my habit 462 00:52:23.220 --> 00:52:26.730 Ansar Muhammad: to make sure that 463 00:52:26.890 --> 00:52:36.189 Ansar Muhammad: you know folks that's coming in is in some cases paying their way in, because that's just part of the underworld. 464 00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:45.999 Ansar Muhammad: But from what I'm being told, the met is so, and we're not even talking about Fentanyl. But the math is so 465 00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:48.200 Ansar Muhammad: here 466 00:52:48.650 --> 00:52:52.730 Ansar Muhammad: some of these folks might be making their own concoction 467 00:52:52.840 --> 00:53:02.899 Ansar Muhammad: in some case. I think we've had a few fires so, but to get to the point. Yet if the gang element is present 468 00:53:03.020 --> 00:53:05.060 Ansar Muhammad: um folks, 469 00:53:05.490 --> 00:53:07.990 it's going to always represent Venice, 470 00:53:08.140 --> 00:53:16.529 Ansar Muhammad: the younger generation don't listen to the older generation because a lot of times. The younger generation is suffering 471 00:53:16.890 --> 00:53:28.380 Ansar Muhammad: from using themselves, and they they they don't want folks to notice. I've got young homies right now, man, that you know they embarrassed to even have conversation with me in some cases, 472 00:53:28.510 --> 00:53:42.729 Ansar Muhammad: you know. But i'm not there to judge them. I just tell him I love you guys right and do the best you can. They'd be like me. I want a job I want. They all they know that we hire folks from the community. So do you really want a job? Yeah, we'll send you a resume. I don't have a resume. 473 00:53:44.370 --> 00:53:49.760 Ansar Muhammad: The game is the gang element. Is there the good news. It's the guys that I showed you 474 00:53:50.070 --> 00:53:54.979 Ansar Muhammad: these ambassadors. When I tell you men the work that they do, 475 00:53:55.420 --> 00:53:56.439 if 476 00:53:57.890 --> 00:54:03.469 Ansar Muhammad: it's phenomenal, because at the end of the day. For an example, two weeks ago, when it was raining real bad, 477 00:54:04.020 --> 00:54:05.370 Ansar Muhammad: a 478 00:54:05.670 --> 00:54:13.070 Ansar Muhammad: rival gang, not Culver City, but a rival La gang on the is still on the west side, 479 00:54:13.190 --> 00:54:20.129 Ansar Muhammad: down off the Cadillac and Venice Bend arch enemies for Venice for many, many years, probably thirty, plus 480 00:54:20.700 --> 00:54:27.420 Ansar Muhammad: the on a Sunday where they had to come through their Sunday morning. But if this is what it was random, real hard 481 00:54:28.290 --> 00:54:33.789 Ansar Muhammad: when everybody woke up At first I get a call from Lapda. Did you see the day? 482 00:54:33.900 --> 00:54:35.169 Ansar Muhammad: Yes, 483 00:54:35.210 --> 00:54:38.459 Ansar Muhammad: there was game writing all over the Park, 484 00:54:38.950 --> 00:54:40.490 Ansar Muhammad: and so 485 00:54:40.640 --> 00:54:47.860 Ansar Muhammad: the of the day. We have to deal with this element, whether you see it or not, it's there. 486 00:54:48.190 --> 00:54:55.509 Ansar Muhammad: So, dealing with the encampments. If there is an open market, and it is, 487 00:54:56.140 --> 00:54:58.240 Ansar Muhammad: it's not no piano. 488 00:54:59.230 --> 00:55:00.330 Ansar Muhammad: There's 489 00:55:00.660 --> 00:55:02.619 Ansar Muhammad: Don't know what to do for market. 490 00:55:02.630 --> 00:55:04.419 Ansar Muhammad: You wouldn't survive. 491 00:55:06.130 --> 00:55:09.670 Ansar Muhammad: So at the end of the day we have to deal with these dynamics, and 492 00:55:09.680 --> 00:55:13.700 Ansar Muhammad: and it's rough to deal. And this is why I think some people is afraid 493 00:55:14.120 --> 00:55:22.220 Ansar Muhammad: to deal with this situation, because when you start doing intentional outreach with this. But there's, what you're going to run up against. 494 00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:24.500 Ansar Muhammad: You've got to run up against the gangle 495 00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:28.889 Ansar Muhammad: a lot of times people shy away from that 496 00:55:28.900 --> 00:55:34.360 Ansar Muhammad: when I say people meaning these so-called outreach workers that if you're not from Venice, 497 00:55:36.020 --> 00:55:37.880 Ansar Muhammad: he's not going to get nowhere. 498 00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:43.490 Ansar Muhammad: The other element That, of course, is the drug use in sale. But there's another element 499 00:55:43.680 --> 00:55:45.540 Ansar Muhammad: which is prostitution. 500 00:55:46.060 --> 00:55:52.519 Ansar Muhammad: So when we start looking at any encampment right now 501 00:55:52.970 --> 00:55:57.140 Ansar Muhammad: from the lens of an outreach expert, I look at those two things 502 00:55:57.850 --> 00:56:05.810 Ansar Muhammad: Do we have a bad element? Is it homegrown? Is it Venice or not? And i'll give one? I'll get one example, 503 00:56:06.890 --> 00:56:08.909 Ansar Muhammad: and i'm not going to call the street, 504 00:56:09.640 --> 00:56:14.330 Ansar Muhammad: but I I was asked to come out when one Saturday, and it was 505 00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:16.880 Ansar Muhammad: in canvas everywhere. 506 00:56:18.530 --> 00:56:20.299 Ansar Muhammad: We were walking around like 507 00:56:20.560 --> 00:56:21.970 Ansar Muhammad: pad naked 508 00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:24.979 Ansar Muhammad: one in candidates. You got to pim 509 00:56:25.090 --> 00:56:33.549 Ansar Muhammad: the other candidate. You got to met the other in Cam that you got the job. The other in chemist. You got to gang members not just one. 510 00:56:34.240 --> 00:56:38.229 Ansar Muhammad: So when I get there i'm looking around to see if I know anybody, 511 00:56:38.390 --> 00:56:41.469 Ansar Muhammad: and I didn't know these people. 512 00:56:42.230 --> 00:56:49.669 Ansar Muhammad: And so when I began to ask questions, when I identified a potential gang member because of how he was looking, 513 00:56:50.060 --> 00:56:54.839 Ansar Muhammad: come to find out, this guy was from Los Angeles 514 00:56:56.450 --> 00:57:03.280 Ansar Muhammad: has been there for quite a while. He was a supplier, but a user at the same time. 515 00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:14.520 Ansar Muhammad: So ultimately. But I did, I said, You know what now that I know where you from, because we have a nationwide network of peacemakers 516 00:57:14.910 --> 00:57:16.430 Ansar Muhammad: put a phone call in 517 00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:21.269 Ansar Muhammad: to his neighborhood, and over there with an ambassador. Do the same work with I 518 00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:25.299 Ansar Muhammad: less than two dollars. This guy packed up. 519 00:57:26.260 --> 00:57:27.439 Ansar Muhammad: It's not. 520 00:57:27.600 --> 00:57:33.620 Ansar Muhammad: What did that do for that in captain. Everybody over there was getting high, and he was at the getting dressed from him. 521 00:57:34.460 --> 00:57:35.710 We'll see less. 522 00:57:36.730 --> 00:57:38.680 Ansar Muhammad: What did that do for that encampment? 523 00:57:38.980 --> 00:57:45.180 Ansar Muhammad: Everybody else we located, because they couldn't get high no more, or they couldn't get their drugs if they was going. 524 00:57:45.650 --> 00:57:53.100 Ansar Muhammad: So the elements is there, and I hope those of you who's in the audience Never think that they're not. 525 00:57:53.160 --> 00:57:58.339 Ansar Muhammad: The unfortunate part is some of my guys man that is 526 00:57:58.570 --> 00:58:01.949 living in in that environment is former gang members, Matt, 527 00:58:02.270 --> 00:58:05.689 Ansar Muhammad: and it it it hurts my heart to see it. 528 00:58:05.750 --> 00:58:08.830 Ansar Muhammad: But uh, as a recovering addict Um, 529 00:58:09.080 --> 00:58:10.479 Ansar Muhammad: you got a warning, 530 00:58:10.860 --> 00:58:17.389 Ansar Muhammad: you know I can't want it no more than what they want to for themselves. But I go check on them, periodic, you know. See how they do it. 531 00:58:17.690 --> 00:58:19.329 Ansar Muhammad: Thank you for the question. 532 00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:31.519 Brian U: But why Don't? We hear from the service providers about the gang problem or the politicians, and have them? You'd think that they would point to that and say, Hey, we can't do this successful because of this. Are they fearful 533 00:58:31.530 --> 00:58:33.479 Brian U: It's a retaliation 534 00:58:33.490 --> 00:58:39.150 Ansar Muhammad: gonna say it wouldn't be. I wouldn't call it retaliation. But i'll absolutely say this, 535 00:58:39.290 --> 00:58:42.220 Ansar Muhammad: and it goes back to the license to operate 536 00:58:42.370 --> 00:58:43.390 Brian U: right. Yes, 537 00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:49.160 Ansar Muhammad: if you don't, so there's nothing to just glass over the situation. 538 00:58:49.530 --> 00:59:00.029 Ansar Muhammad: Come out with a clipboard and a sack, lunch and talk to the guy that may not be involved with that lifestyle. But it's another thing, and That's why this is called intention. 539 00:59:07.610 --> 00:59:10.740 Ansar Muhammad: Met for drugs and prostitution. 540 00:59:10.910 --> 00:59:15.810 Ansar Muhammad: All three of them lead to more than likely a gang time, 541 00:59:16.450 --> 00:59:28.700 Ansar Muhammad: and if there's a local gang time. It makes my job easy. It makes our staff job user because now we know. But if it's the outside like right now, we got people. 542 00:59:29.420 --> 00:59:33.080 Ansar Muhammad: I'm going to call the street. But we got some guys out of Chicago, 543 00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:35.809 Ansar Muhammad: South Siders 544 00:59:36.740 --> 00:59:39.629 Ansar Muhammad: right now in Venice, 545 00:59:46.270 --> 00:59:47.799 Ansar Muhammad: so I know what they're doing, 546 00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:51.730 Ansar Muhammad: and I have to make calls into Chicago, 547 00:59:53.220 --> 00:59:58.250 Ansar Muhammad: because at the end of the day when you deal with these type of individuals, you 548 00:59:58.490 --> 01:00:00.769 Ansar Muhammad: you have to know how to deal with them. 549 01:00:00.990 --> 01:00:06.769 Ansar Muhammad: So when the cause was made into Chicago and I came back and gave some names, that's what they did for me. 550 01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:10.390 Ansar Muhammad: We built a report based on what I knew in Chicago. 551 01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:15.339 Ansar Muhammad: Those of you who Haven't had against the the south side. 552 01:00:17.410 --> 01:00:21.490 Ansar Muhammad: Cass is to the pistols man at twelve years old, thirteen years old. 553 01:00:23.730 --> 01:00:33.419 Ansar Muhammad: It's all about you and the license. Now, right now I can go and do some more outreach with these guys, because now I was able to. 554 01:00:36.970 --> 01:00:42.970 vicki halliday: Okay, we got the Shawn O'brien Shawn. You want to ask. Stand a question. 555 01:00:43.720 --> 01:00:59.030 Sean Obrien: Oh, yes, hi! Very interesting. Thank you. Spanish support you and your ah helper foundation, the ah Venice! Two thousand. Thank you for all your energies and your time and your dedication. 556 01:00:59.040 --> 01:01:15.650 Ansar Muhammad: Truly amazing. I'm still very upset at the city, not bringing you into the conversation for all these years. Pity on in, he may have been able to get re-elected if he had worked with you, but I? My question is 557 01:01:15.810 --> 01:01:26.409 Sean Obrien: the gang element you address? Very well. I want to thank Brian for answering that and following up. 558 01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:44.010 Sean Obrien: Ah, but as that was going on. Ah! I kind of thought of how first we had the Jones. Ah, the Jones settlement, which we ah had an agreement with the city that Ah, sleeping in tents was permitted. 559 01:01:44.020 --> 01:01:58.809 Sean Obrien: Ah! Between, I think, like nine at night to like six in the morning, where they can erect their tents, and then Covid like changed all that, and then we had another lawsuit where personal property got involved. 560 01:01:58.980 --> 01:02:09.950 Sean Obrien: Would your job be easier if those policies remained in force where these semi-permanent structures were, 561 01:02:10.020 --> 01:02:15.220 Sean Obrien: we're all not allowed, and maybe 562 01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:30.790 Sean Obrien: ah, it would help your outreach because you know they'd have to tear down and and and I don't want to say pack up, but not just have these these permanent structures, so I guess my question would be, How are the permanent structures making it more difficult for you. 563 01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:32.290 Sean Obrien: Thank you again. Stan: 564 01:02:32.340 --> 01:02:36.989 Ansar Muhammad: Welcome. So yeah, absolutely. If the the hardnesses and 565 01:02:37.140 --> 01:02:44.889 Ansar Muhammad: policies and law and all that stuff was was being enforced. It would absolutely make things a lot better for everybody. 566 01:02:45.030 --> 01:02:49.490 Ansar Muhammad: But again I came into this whole piece 567 01:02:49.670 --> 01:02:52.469 Ansar Muhammad: dealing with this homeless issue, 568 01:02:52.570 --> 01:02:59.839 Ansar Muhammad: because we had them elements attached to an area that I moved the hormones. 569 01:02:59.890 --> 01:03:07.970 Brian U: It was terrified they would not come out of the front of the house. They were used to alley. 570 01:03:08.150 --> 01:03:27.789 Ansar Muhammad: Um! They was afraid for their grandchildren to walk outside, because there was needles and all kind of paraphernalia on the streets. They were, even when they came out on the front they would not walk on the sidewalks, because they didn't have enough room to walk on the sidewalk. So that's how I was 571 01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:39.279 Ansar Muhammad: brought into this whole issue around the homeless. And when I got involved I realized that if people in addressing these things the homeless stuff is not going to go away 572 01:03:40.470 --> 01:03:48.790 Ansar Muhammad: that millions of dollars was being put into housing one thousand dollars, I mean. So if you can't address it through things on this, 573 01:03:49.300 --> 01:03:51.589 Ansar Muhammad: homelessness is not going to go away in, 574 01:03:51.600 --> 01:03:57.729 Ansar Muhammad: so you're right. If the law was being enforced, 575 01:03:58.010 --> 01:04:05.999 Ansar Muhammad: yes, people would have to break down the campus and whatnot, but we still got human beings that suffer 576 01:04:06.410 --> 01:04:10.289 Ansar Muhammad: these human beings, whether they be mental 577 01:04:10.420 --> 01:04:15.080 Ansar Muhammad: drugs, etcetera, still need help and support. 578 01:04:15.180 --> 01:04:20.869 Ansar Muhammad: The question is, How do we get the service providers more connected. 579 01:04:21.700 --> 01:04:26.810 Ansar Muhammad: They come on and give you a beautiful rundown on what it is that they do. 580 01:04:27.400 --> 01:04:35.419 Ansar Muhammad: So i'm sharing with you, and I can show you and tell you that we haven't had a murder, a gang murder 581 01:04:35.570 --> 01:04:38.679 Ansar Muhammad: between the two rival games, and it's been a historic 582 01:04:38.810 --> 01:04:42.250 Ansar Muhammad: every year up until maybe eight years ago. 583 01:04:42.380 --> 01:04:47.279 Ansar Muhammad: That's because when we was able to get the resources, which is very little, we, 584 01:04:47.510 --> 01:04:53.670 Brian U: the Mayor's office, we hired a whole Latino team to represent Memphis. 585 01:04:54.390 --> 01:04:56.649 Ansar Muhammad: So we have ambassadors over there. 586 01:04:56.720 --> 01:05:02.760 Ansar Muhammad: We have an ambassadors and Guinness, and they communicate, and they they they collaborate 587 01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:20.960 Ansar Muhammad: to make sure that these young guys still hate each other and start over making commitment to nuisance. So yes, law is a part of it. But when you break down in kindness and take away the tents. You still got a human being, and these services need help. Now, there is a population out there 588 01:05:21.210 --> 01:05:23.819 Ansar Muhammad: that's probably less than five percent. 589 01:05:23.850 --> 01:05:30.949 Ansar Muhammad: And I've said this to the providers. I believe I've said it to St. Joseph's. I said it to be Cac and others. But 590 01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:33.790 Ansar Muhammad: you can build a mansion 591 01:05:35.470 --> 01:05:39.109 Ansar Muhammad: something that's going to happen, you know they're going to turn your mansion out, 592 01:05:44.040 --> 01:05:50.339 Ansar Muhammad: that person. How do we help or make sure that that person is not 593 01:05:50.570 --> 01:05:54.740 Ansar Muhammad: having are creating a public safety loosens, 594 01:05:55.010 --> 01:05:56.649 Ansar Muhammad: you can do that. 595 01:05:57.330 --> 01:06:09.330 Ansar Muhammad: And as to have the relationship with enough respect that got to come from that person, If that person know that you're providing the services, and in this particular area, if that person is going to respect your area. 596 01:06:10.970 --> 01:06:15.220 Ansar Muhammad: But that is less than five percent of the population again. 597 01:06:15.560 --> 01:06:27.319 Ansar Muhammad: You can talk to them. They don't want to be out here on the beach. Man. Is there something wrong with that. You know what I tell him. It's not 598 01:06:28.180 --> 01:06:31.350 Ansar Muhammad: not at all, man. Enjoy your life and be happy. 599 01:06:32.420 --> 01:06:37.830 Ansar Muhammad: But again, we have to build those type of relationships to even get that person to consider 600 01:06:38.010 --> 01:06:41.660 Ansar Muhammad: respect in the area that you may be providing services there. 601 01:06:42.150 --> 01:06:50.889 Sean Obrien: Thank you, Stan. But to follow up on that kind of an angle I was let go, and I agree. Yes, that these are people, 602 01:06:50.900 --> 01:06:53.459 Sean Obrien: and thank you for reminding me on that. 603 01:06:53.470 --> 01:07:08.429 Sean Obrien: Ah, but if they didn't have these structures that they like to call home that are almost permanent. It seemed like they'd be a lot more willing to accept help to accept service. 604 01:07:08.760 --> 01:07:20.659 Ansar Muhammad: Then, saying, No, you know, you know, and then they go back and do their little T, or whatever they have. But you know it's a whole carrot and stick thing 605 01:07:20.670 --> 01:07:24.329 Sean Obrien: you know you. You make it difficult, for 606 01:07:24.540 --> 01:07:36.250 Sean Obrien: you know, and i'm not saying like cruelly or anything. My word, i'm! I'm choosing my words poorly, but you don't make them as comfortable as they are now. I think they'd be more willing to accept service. 607 01:07:36.350 --> 01:07:49.380 Ansar Muhammad: My final question is, do you agree with the loss of numbers on the West Side that homelessness has has decreased, 608 01:07:49.510 --> 01:07:59.559 Sean Obrien: you know, and you're You're a guy who's feet on the ground. So you would, you would have a real good indication of these numbers that came out with lots of thanks. 609 01:07:59.780 --> 01:08:19.539 Ansar Muhammad: You're welcome, I I mean, I agree with you one hundred percent, I think the members across the county Ah! Speaks valuable. I think it's nearly seventy thousand homeless people, sixty nine thousand one hundred and forty-four. The last time I checked Ah, in terms of West Side, I would say yes, based on my 610 01:08:19.550 --> 01:08:24.320 Ansar Muhammad: not based on that or based on loss of the base of what I see 611 01:08:24.370 --> 01:08:31.199 Ansar Muhammad: when I, when I travel through Venice, or you know, get out of walk. I'm seeing lesser 612 01:08:31.260 --> 01:08:40.529 Ansar Muhammad: campus. Then I saw a year or two ago. I don't know what state it is, and I hope it comes to my mind but 613 01:08:40.920 --> 01:08:52.099 Ansar Muhammad: one state. I think they decided to give every and I and I know that it might be kind of far-fetched, but every homeless person I think up to twelve thousand dollars a year 614 01:08:52.130 --> 01:08:56.379 Ansar Muhammad: right, and I don't know what state that was in, but i'm still 615 01:08:57.200 --> 01:08:58.279 Sean Obrien: Denver, 616 01:08:58.310 --> 01:09:00.719 Ansar Muhammad: we're not going to be doing something like that. 617 01:09:01.500 --> 01:09:12.780 Ansar Muhammad: You know what I mean. Of course people are saying Now they just gonna go get tired with it. But just imagine that man So you got, and i'm just thinking up outside the box, you got millions coming in. 618 01:09:13.670 --> 01:09:15.299 Ansar Muhammad: How much is that 619 01:09:15.370 --> 01:09:17.740 Ansar Muhammad: is in syllabized 620 01:09:18.689 --> 01:09:21.260 Ansar Muhammad: to get a person to say? You know what 621 01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:23.340 Ansar Muhammad: I don't know. I don't know this. 622 01:09:23.380 --> 01:09:25.219 Ansar Muhammad: It makes you at home no more. 623 01:09:25.939 --> 01:09:31.420 Ansar Muhammad: How many, how many dollars is in televised for the population 624 01:09:31.910 --> 01:09:37.619 Ansar Muhammad: where that person can say, Look, man, you give me one thousand dollars. I'm not a here 625 01:09:38.069 --> 01:09:42.280 Ansar Muhammad: or get me five hundred, and I'm going back to Kansas or whatever 626 01:09:42.790 --> 01:09:49.330 Ansar Muhammad: i'm just wondering how much of that money that's coming into the West Side, and maybe that can be a conversation later 627 01:09:49.420 --> 01:09:54.120 Ansar Muhammad: has been and televised to really give, not just 628 01:09:54.410 --> 01:09:58.800 Ansar Muhammad: services, but actual tangible dollars 629 01:09:59.260 --> 01:10:14.820 Ansar Muhammad: to the homeless population. And will that be another way to get a person off the street? And i'm i'm only saying that because I had to incentivize coffee, Jones. I couldn't say, Alfie, 630 01:10:15.530 --> 01:10:18.480 Ansar Muhammad: you know you get kind of so, but we're going to church to go, 631 01:10:18.750 --> 01:10:26.649 Ansar Muhammad: even though he joined the church, and he's he's a saved man. I said, Alfie, you're cleaned up, and i'm gonna give you a job. 632 01:10:27.250 --> 01:10:32.980 Ansar Muhammad: He's making twenty five dollars an hour now thirty, two to thirty, two hours a week, so you'll do the man. 633 01:10:32.990 --> 01:10:43.139 Ansar Muhammad: He has an apartment he's in church. He's taken care of his family, but I had to incentivize that I didn't care about his background, and what he went through. 634 01:10:43.940 --> 01:10:48.650 Ansar Muhammad: I just had to make that happen for him. So what if he did that across the board. 635 01:10:48.900 --> 01:10:50.240 Ansar Muhammad: How many 636 01:10:51.720 --> 01:10:54.230 Ansar Muhammad: this is deep, How many folks 637 01:10:54.360 --> 01:10:56.599 Ansar Muhammad: we can say It's working 638 01:10:56.760 --> 01:10:59.910 Ansar Muhammad: like I can point to outfit. But how many 639 01:11:00.240 --> 01:11:06.639 Ansar Muhammad: people we can say is working for these providers that was once homeless. 640 01:11:09.770 --> 01:11:10.849 Yeah, 641 01:11:11.400 --> 01:11:14.360 Brian U: not a lot, not a lot of lived experience in that. 642 01:11:14.980 --> 01:11:16.550 frank murphy: Yeah, Aaron. 643 01:11:17.030 --> 01:11:19.890 frank murphy: All right, stand. 644 01:11:21.420 --> 01:11:23.050 frank murphy: This was great. 645 01:11:24.410 --> 01:11:35.790 vicki halliday: Let's Let's let you off. Let's let you off the hotspot here. I don't see any more. 646 01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:41.029 vicki halliday: Oh, wait a minute, my go ahead, 647 01:11:45.370 --> 01:11:46.450 vicki halliday: My! 648 01:11:50.210 --> 01:11:51.890 frank murphy: I can hear 649 01:11:58.340 --> 01:12:02.590 vicki halliday: anybody else want to back to my 650 01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:22.380 vicki halliday: I would like to say one thing: we should welcome Louie and Louie. I don't know how to pronounce your last name, is it in labor? And Louis is a new field Rep. For Cd. Eleven from Oh, okay. So I wanted to welcome Louis and um, you know. Thank you for coming. He's got a stand up. 651 01:12:22.470 --> 01:12:25.309 vicki halliday: Um! There you go, Louie. 652 01:12:25.910 --> 01:12:27.660 frank murphy: Let's hear from Louis 653 01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:32.620 vicki halliday: a lot of talk. 654 01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:56.709 Brian U: Thank you so much for the invitation, and thank you for the compassion and care with which you all approach community building and troubleshooting some of the really challenging issues. And Venice and Vicki. You're right that it is pronounced labor. I'm just under a month in the role uh, but really thankful for how welcoming you all have been in. I'm i'm learning a lot. I'm active 655 01:12:56.900 --> 01:13:18.760 Louie Leiva (he/him): notes. Um! I am passing everything that I hear along to the Council member, and so our senior staff. Um. So again. Just thank you again for the work that you want to do as active advocates for the community. Um! And thank you again for the invitation to this committee. Um, I will put my email in the chat, and if you all need anything, please don't hesitate to reach out. Thanks. Y'all. 656 01:13:18.770 --> 01:13:21.379 vicki halliday: Thank you. Luli. Appreciate it. 657 01:13:21.390 --> 01:13:22.490 vicki halliday: Um, 658 01:13:22.500 --> 01:13:23.919 vicki halliday: we must go. 659 01:13:31.850 --> 01:13:33.090 frank murphy: He's 660 01:13:33.530 --> 01:13:34.719 vicki halliday: Bill. 661 01:13:41.970 --> 01:13:44.530 Ansar Muhammad: Well, it was muted. 662 01:13:44.660 --> 01:13:47.120 vicki halliday: Okay, how about now? 663 01:13:47.130 --> 01:14:00.840 frank murphy: All right, I learned how to work this technology uh Stan Muhammad. I'm glad you included one of those old guys like me in your slides. 664 01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:11.330 bill: I have so much respect for what you do and what you've been through to to get where you're able to do it. And even though I've never met him the same for 665 01:14:11.770 --> 01:14:20.740 bill: anyone else who's gone through the transformation that that helpers have gone through. 666 01:14:21.100 --> 01:14:25.090 bill: Um. I unfortunately arrived late, 667 01:14:25.130 --> 01:14:36.370 bill: and when I came I I heard you saying that you were. You were helping people where you used to sell drugs. That's the point at which I came in. 668 01:14:36.750 --> 01:14:41.850 bill: What did it take? Maybe you Maybe you already spoke about it before I got here? 669 01:14:41.900 --> 01:14:45.080 bill: Um to to to the uh Zoom. 670 01:14:45.430 --> 01:14:47.269 bill: What did it take 671 01:14:47.290 --> 01:14:55.990 bill: for you to change yourself, to get to the point where you could make that that change 672 01:14:57.690 --> 01:15:03.149 bill: before you could change others. You had to change yourself. I wonder if you already spoke about it? 673 01:15:04.010 --> 01:15:14.729 Ansar Muhammad: No, but I tell you what i'm licking that a picture. I thought I was gonna get up and go get it. But my mother man, she's resting in peace. She died in two thousand and ten, 674 01:15:15.090 --> 01:15:21.219 Ansar Muhammad: and it was her. It was that it was. It was her as an anchor. This is a the very Christian woman. 675 01:15:21.330 --> 01:15:30.920 Ansar Muhammad: Um! I was in prison man, and I was on a month one night, and I cried like a baby, and it just it hit me like there. 676 01:15:31.060 --> 01:15:39.420 Ansar Muhammad: You know all the shit that I did man to hurt her, and I told myself that these people let me out. 677 01:15:39.610 --> 01:15:43.450 Ansar Muhammad: I would never hurt my mother again. The way I heard of her growing up. 678 01:15:43.620 --> 01:15:46.720 Ansar Muhammad: So all of my passion and 679 01:15:46.770 --> 01:15:56.490 Ansar Muhammad: ambition and desire came as a result of me, trying to prove trying to prove to my mother that i'm a changed man. 680 01:15:56.740 --> 01:16:06.440 Ansar Muhammad: It took her a while to come to that reality because I was a fuck up to your malage. All she knew was, my son is always into something, 681 01:16:06.460 --> 01:16:15.290 Ansar Muhammad: and so it took probably five years. I would. There would be days. I would go visit her, and she would look at me, and she, 682 01:16:15.300 --> 01:16:19.479 Ansar Muhammad: you ain't in this. You ain't doing that shit no more, is he? I'm like mama. Come on, 683 01:16:20.310 --> 01:16:28.630 Brian U: you ain't out there with your cousins. Come on, come on. They took their out man, and so the refresh he passed. 684 01:16:29.200 --> 01:16:34.170 Ansar Muhammad: We was in church, New Bethel Baptist Church 685 01:16:34.330 --> 01:16:36.760 Ansar Muhammad: past the day This was teaching, 686 01:16:36.790 --> 01:16:39.779 Ansar Muhammad: and she got up and said, I don't know 687 01:16:39.800 --> 01:16:44.199 Ansar Muhammad: what changed my son. But whatever changed him I supported. 688 01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:54.499 Ansar Muhammad: I said, Mama, it was you I mean you 689 01:16:54.580 --> 01:16:58.839 Ansar Muhammad: multi-generational drugs and gangs in your family. 690 01:16:58.980 --> 01:17:07.050 Ansar Muhammad: Of course I could have came home and got right back in the mix because some of the guys that I left cousins and whatnot I put in the mix, 691 01:17:07.200 --> 01:17:17.410 Ansar Muhammad: and that was my biggest test. Bill is I had to go against one particular cousin, who I put in the game who, when I came home, was probably a multi-millionaire. 692 01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:25.409 Ansar Muhammad: I remembered, like the back of my hand I need to write a book I'm in front of my mother house. He pulls up in the the navigator, 693 01:17:25.940 --> 01:17:34.910 Ansar Muhammad: and he said, You ready? I'm like No, sir, and I say, you see this grass out here. I would rather sleep on my mother's grass right here before I get back in the night we had a physical fight. 694 01:17:35.300 --> 01:17:38.179 Ansar Muhammad: My mother comes out. She calls the police. 695 01:17:38.300 --> 01:17:39.870 Ansar Muhammad: He pulls off. 696 01:17:40.360 --> 01:17:43.940 Ansar Muhammad: What are you all doing? That's how loud it was. 697 01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:46.300 Ansar Muhammad: But that was my first test 698 01:17:46.400 --> 01:17:48.220 Ansar Muhammad: is to say, no to him. 699 01:17:49.390 --> 01:17:53.789 Ansar Muhammad: And now he's resting in peace. He has five children that doesn't have a dad, 700 01:17:54.030 --> 01:17:57.009 Ansar Muhammad: because he ultimately lost it off. 701 01:17:58.130 --> 01:17:59.610 Ansar Muhammad: Maybe I am 702 01:17:59.640 --> 01:18:01.799 Ansar Muhammad: twenty-six years later, with 703 01:18:01.950 --> 01:18:07.340 Ansar Muhammad: my mind with my faculties with a beautiful family, beautiful, white, beautiful children, 704 01:18:07.480 --> 01:18:09.590 Ansar Muhammad: and no people like Frank Murphy. 705 01:18:09.600 --> 01:18:11.410 Ansar Muhammad: Okay, 706 01:18:19.710 --> 01:18:27.620 Ansar Muhammad: would even dare get into this stuff, man. It was Frank Murphy and Naomi Nightingale 707 01:18:27.750 --> 01:18:33.589 Ansar Muhammad: that the course of my thinking in terms of being in the local politics is always felt. 708 01:18:33.780 --> 01:18:43.819 Ansar Muhammad: They're gonna bring my background up. If I start talking about what I do, they don't look at my stuff, man, but this man let me judge me, and Naomi never judgment, 709 01:18:43.990 --> 01:18:45.700 Ansar Muhammad: and the rest is history. 710 01:18:46.380 --> 01:18:51.949 Ansar Muhammad: So thank you, Bill, for your your question. I hope we can do a part two to this Frank, at a later time, 711 01:18:52.030 --> 01:19:00.490 Ansar Muhammad: And thank you, guys, man, for giving me this opportunity to just share a little bit about. And this is only a little okay about the work, 712 01:19:00.750 --> 01:19:05.710 Ansar Muhammad: because we all of the country we got people that we've influenced all over this country. 713 01:19:06.110 --> 01:19:10.320 Ansar Muhammad: Um, I don't know if you guys ever heard of the name Melvin Hayward. 714 01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:20.460 Ansar Muhammad: He's one of our local mentors resting in peace, done some great work in Venice. Save me from going to Juvenile Hall when I was a boy, 715 01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:29.479 Ansar Muhammad: but I recruited his son, our outreach to a son. We're talking about outreach. The sun was full of flesh game banging when I came home. 716 01:19:30.190 --> 01:19:41.419 Ansar Muhammad: Okay, full-fledged, and so his father would always tell me, man, I see you doing his work, Stan. But can you get the junior? I'm like June? You're moving too fast. Bro. 717 01:19:41.500 --> 01:19:48.260 Ansar Muhammad: It was a It was a Federal probe happening. When I came home the Fbi Cia was in Venice. 718 01:19:48.300 --> 01:19:55.219 Ansar Muhammad: They was looking to lock up as many black men as they could, and they did okay. But this one particular brother, 719 01:19:55.600 --> 01:19:57.349 Ansar Muhammad: Melvin Junior, 720 01:19:57.820 --> 01:19:59.150 Ansar Muhammad: say it. 721 01:19:59.610 --> 01:20:02.459 Ansar Muhammad: And now Melvin is in Chicago 722 01:20:02.860 --> 01:20:10.070 Ansar Muhammad: providing services to a big organization, and guess where he learnt it from on the streets of Venice. 723 01:20:10.290 --> 01:20:12.660 Ansar Muhammad: So here we are. Here we are. 724 01:20:12.670 --> 01:20:13.660 Ansar Muhammad: Thank you, 725 01:20:14.130 --> 01:20:14.990 vicki halliday: stands 726 01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:17.220 frank murphy: You got it, Stan. Thank you. 727 01:20:18.080 --> 01:20:20.829 bill: Thanks to all the 728 01:20:20.950 --> 01:20:23.469 vicki halliday: Yes, sir. 729 01:20:23.750 --> 01:20:25.440 Ansar Muhammad: Thank you. Um, 730 01:20:26.620 --> 01:20:30.470 frank murphy: all right. We're going to go to 731 01:20:30.480 --> 01:20:32.960 frank murphy: Jodie. Can you um 732 01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:38.799 frank murphy: try your speaker again? Larry's with you. Correct, 733 01:20:42.620 --> 01:20:44.809 frank murphy: Jody. You need to unmute 734 01:20:45.810 --> 01:20:47.880 Brian U: my Rapkin's unmuted. 735 01:20:47.900 --> 01:20:49.989 vicki halliday: He never answered. 736 01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:51.160 vicki halliday: Um, 737 01:20:53.170 --> 01:20:56.010 vicki halliday: Jedi, Jody, Can you hear, 738 01:21:01.020 --> 01:21:02.320 frank murphy: Jody? 739 01:21:09.210 --> 01:21:12.730 vicki halliday: Jodie? 740 01:21:12.850 --> 01:21:14.090 frank murphy: Ah, there we are 741 01:21:14.100 --> 01:21:15.059 Jody Mortimer: here. 742 01:21:15.330 --> 01:21:25.329 frank murphy: Yes, You're probably going to have to be real careful about staying close to the speaker, because you kind of come in real clear, and then you back off. 743 01:21:34.270 --> 01:21:45.560 Jody Mortimer: Yes, speaker, if the microphone isn't working too well, we may want to just push it to next month, for we can do something with 744 01:21:46.090 --> 01:21:47.320 Jody Mortimer: on brooks 745 01:21:49.560 --> 01:21:51.230 Jody Mortimer: up to you. Bye. 746 01:21:52.860 --> 01:21:54.580 Jody Mortimer: Hello! Can you hear me? 747 01:21:54.790 --> 01:22:08.940 Jody Mortimer: Yeah, Okay. I just want to tell you It's not over. And I to speak with you. I'm kind of really nervous because I the zoom thing I don't, you know, I mean. So I apologize. If 748 01:22:09.230 --> 01:22:14.050 Jody Mortimer: Don't talk about it the right way or whatever. But 749 01:22:14.350 --> 01:22:20.139 Jody Mortimer: I like you guys to ask me some questions, or you know, How are we gonna start this? 750 01:22:20.150 --> 01:22:28.839 Jody Mortimer: Well, what I wanted to do was, you know we we like to have you come and sort of share with us 751 01:22:29.190 --> 01:22:40.059 frank murphy: your story and the concerns that you had dealing with homelessness when you were there. Your concerns, your needs, your wants 752 01:22:40.090 --> 01:22:42.469 frank murphy: when homeless, and then 753 01:22:42.870 --> 01:22:44.860 frank murphy: try to, 754 01:22:44.990 --> 01:22:52.590 Jody Mortimer: you know. Introduce yourself as sort of speed. Okay? And then we'll ask you some questions. 755 01:22:52.600 --> 01:22:59.990 Jody Mortimer: Okay, I me. I can handle that well. I grew up in the West Side, mostly in Venice. 756 01:23:00.540 --> 01:23:20.490 Jody Mortimer: I ah started out really young, using drugs. Ah! Selling drugs, and then I started want to. I went to youth authority behind. Ah, some gang members stuff some gang-bang stuff. I stayed in y all my teens, and when I got out by them I I was already pretty much ah 757 01:23:20.500 --> 01:23:21.719 Jody Mortimer: uh uh! 758 01:23:21.910 --> 01:23:23.219 Jody Mortimer: A member, 759 01:23:23.300 --> 01:23:28.329 Jody Mortimer: And then from that that that lifestyle was already like I 760 01:23:29.020 --> 01:23:31.059 Jody Mortimer: I was already like 761 01:23:32.360 --> 01:23:48.280 Jody Mortimer: um. I was already a gang member. I just put out there, and ah! So I lived that life, and all I did was sell drugs, and ah like on Lincoln Boulevard prostitution, like the other Gemma was talking about, 762 01:23:48.370 --> 01:23:56.239 Jody Mortimer: and then I would keep doing it and Motel Hoppy whatever I spent 763 01:23:56.330 --> 01:24:04.500 Jody Mortimer: fifty years in and out of prison, and I would never leave the Four Corners, you know, and 764 01:24:04.650 --> 01:24:05.900 Jody Mortimer: Doug 765 01:24:06.080 --> 01:24:10.159 Jody Mortimer: everything that went along with that lifestyle, and 766 01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:12.030 Jody Mortimer: I 767 01:24:13.200 --> 01:24:30.070 Jody Mortimer: I don't say I don't regret it, but because I took the best I mean the opportunities. It was there for me. I could have been anybody or anything. I did all the things I did to myself. I realized I didn't know that. 768 01:24:30.310 --> 01:24:36.960 Jody Mortimer: But as far as like when I was on the streets, that things are like, you know 769 01:24:38.270 --> 01:24:41.809 Jody Mortimer: it's hopelessness, and when you got no hope, you 770 01:24:41.930 --> 01:24:50.160 Jody Mortimer: you know it's It's the most humiliating thing there is, and it it becomes the way you'll do anything, 771 01:24:50.490 --> 01:24:52.269 Jody Mortimer: you know. Um, 772 01:24:52.980 --> 01:25:09.039 Jody Mortimer: we'll do anything to get some kind of relief, and then it's. Usually the drugs, and then it's usually whatever it takes to get the drugs. It's just a vicious circle that goes around and around and around, and once you get caught up in it, it's like a a vortex, 773 01:25:09.170 --> 01:25:26.089 Jody Mortimer: and um! It's really hard to break on, and you go into lunch. But I never wanted to be a gang member on Nick and boulevard making young girls sell their shelves, and then, you know, she broke, do with them, and and that all of that, you know. 774 01:25:26.540 --> 01:25:27.710 Jody Mortimer: Yeah, 775 01:25:28.050 --> 01:25:36.230 Jody Mortimer: they're humiliating their selves, because inside they're not that kind of people, you know, and 776 01:25:36.650 --> 01:25:38.590 Jody Mortimer: I don't know it. It's 777 01:25:38.840 --> 01:25:42.350 Jody Mortimer: once you get caught up in it. It's really hard to break out. 778 01:25:42.410 --> 01:25:46.709 Jody Mortimer: You know It's It's taken me fifty years to want to get out of, 779 01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:50.460 Jody Mortimer: and everything that's went along with it 780 01:25:51.350 --> 01:25:52.460 Jody Mortimer: in 781 01:25:52.660 --> 01:25:54.290 Jody Mortimer: today. 782 01:25:54.350 --> 01:25:57.189 Jody Mortimer: People with my history usually don't change, 783 01:25:57.200 --> 01:26:14.490 Jody Mortimer: you know, like everybody, the generation that I grew up in uh everybody's dead, or they're in Pelican Bay for like they'll never get out um. I was fortunate enough to get a day and come out, and and I prayed to God if I got out that I would do 784 01:26:14.500 --> 01:26:33.589 Jody Mortimer: well. I was fighting to cases that I caught in there, and I was looking at twenty-five to life for each one of them, and and I was only there on a fourteen year big Ah, and just writing checks back in the early ninety s they were going out. Strikes a lot to everybody for anything, and I was really really. 785 01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:39.460 Jody Mortimer: And now they ended up doing fourteen and a half years. But during that fourteen and a half years 786 01:26:39.730 --> 01:26:50.739 Jody Mortimer: lot of things happen. Once you get caught up and wrapped up in there, it's really crazy selling drugs and doing the things that 787 01:26:50.760 --> 01:26:53.709 Jody Mortimer: that gang members you inside which is the 788 01:26:53.810 --> 01:26:55.730 Jody Mortimer: sell drugs and staff 789 01:26:56.300 --> 01:26:57.559 Jody Mortimer: um 790 01:26:57.770 --> 01:27:00.959 Jody Mortimer: an animal because you'd feel like one, 791 01:27:02.550 --> 01:27:08.059 Jody Mortimer: you know, and I would get out. And anyway, I 792 01:27:08.500 --> 01:27:09.609 they'll try, and 793 01:27:10.710 --> 01:27:12.170 you don't 794 01:27:14.150 --> 01:27:17.449 frank murphy: Larry get back up closer to the speaker. 795 01:27:18.240 --> 01:27:19.760 Yeah, 796 01:27:21.530 --> 01:27:24.489 Jody Mortimer: I I Yes, there you go. 797 01:27:24.500 --> 01:27:28.390 Jody Mortimer: Good. Yeah, I'll talk to you a lower Sorry 798 01:27:28.400 --> 01:27:30.489 Jody Mortimer: uh, I guess. 799 01:27:30.870 --> 01:27:44.769 Jody Mortimer: Okay. Now, Well, when I got out before I got my date back, like I said I already had in my mind, because I went pro per which means I represented myself in ninety-five percent of pro peers don't 800 01:27:45.010 --> 01:27:55.580 Jody Mortimer: don't win, you know. Anyway, I was. Blessed and I got my date back, and since I've been out i've been out for years now, 801 01:27:55.640 --> 01:28:04.109 Jody Mortimer: and since I've been out I've I've changed my life. My perspective on things I went into the 802 01:28:04.170 --> 01:28:12.440 Jody Mortimer: twelve-step program. I've been following it as much as I can. Everything it's suggested to me. I'm doing good. I'm in it. 803 01:28:12.460 --> 01:28:20.239 Jody Mortimer: I'm in a halfway. How a sober living house right there on brooks and in six, and my heart 804 01:28:35.140 --> 01:28:47.889 Jody Mortimer: to to become a better person, to be a giver or not a taper, and it feels great. I never thought before I would say that it was good to do something for somebody for just nothing. 805 01:28:47.900 --> 01:28:51.400 Jody Mortimer: You know before that before this 806 01:28:51.590 --> 01:29:08.150 Jody Mortimer: I wasn't going to do nothing for you, and that's how I was going to get something. I was either setting you up or taking it from you, or And now I want to give back, you know, and it honestly feels good when you do something for somebody, and don't expect nothing back, 807 01:29:08.600 --> 01:29:27.270 Jody Mortimer: you know being of service. It's really good. My whole perspective on life has changed, and it's made me a better person, and I believe I believe that I can help the community 808 01:29:27.460 --> 01:29:30.810 Jody Mortimer: a lot better than I used to help the community. 809 01:29:31.040 --> 01:29:32.309 Jody Mortimer: Um! 810 01:29:44.260 --> 01:29:56.139 Jody Mortimer: Because this is why I grew up. This is this is my home, and i'm gonna fight for it, you know i'm gonna fight for it like I fought for my freedom. I'm gonna fight, 811 01:29:56.260 --> 01:30:07.469 Jody Mortimer: or the families and the people that went through the things that I didn't. If if I change one person's life, one youngster's life, you don't have to go to what I went through. That'll be good enough for me, 812 01:30:07.480 --> 01:30:24.529 Jody Mortimer: you know, and I want to see that I want to see everybody that I come into contact with. That is headed the way that I that I was headed. I want to help them in every way that I can not to have to go through what I would do, and hopefully going, 813 01:30:24.540 --> 01:30:30.309 Jody Mortimer: believing that I've been through the things I've been through. They'll respect me more and listen, 814 01:30:30.530 --> 01:30:47.130 Jody Mortimer: and that's what I I want to do. I want to get into recovery, and you know, with everything that entails like, go to school, or that i'm sixty, three. So I gotta hurry up. 815 01:30:47.150 --> 01:30:54.799 Jody Mortimer: I'll spend the rest of my life even back. So. Is there any questions? Sorry if I didn't. 816 01:30:55.370 --> 01:31:09.000 Jody Mortimer: I can just speak to my experience, and that that's it. I don't know programs and all that I know through my experience, and that's all that I can talk about. Really, 817 01:31:09.940 --> 01:31:12.249 that's the one thing I may have. 818 01:31:16.230 --> 01:31:28.940 frank murphy: Um. One question I would have for you is Whoa! One is as everybody. There's applauding you. It's a hell of an effort. 819 01:31:28.960 --> 01:31:30.410 frank murphy: Um! 820 01:31:31.770 --> 01:31:33.320 frank murphy: Oh, here! 821 01:31:34.740 --> 01:31:38.379 frank murphy: Past life and making this shift! How 822 01:31:41.020 --> 01:31:48.780 frank murphy: If there was one thing, what would, what would be the one or two things that 823 01:31:48.860 --> 01:32:00.829 frank murphy: can happen that would ah would change some of the trajectories that a lot of these a lot of these folks are on. And you understand. 824 01:32:01.540 --> 01:32:03.289 frank murphy: Does that make any sense? 825 01:32:09.970 --> 01:32:10.990 Jody Mortimer: It's okay, 826 01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:25.799 Jody Mortimer: yeah, people in their lives older people like mentors or somebody to spend time with. See, I grew up. My father died, got murdered when I was really young I was five, so I grew up in a house like most of the people that did 827 01:32:25.810 --> 01:32:40.350 Jody Mortimer: have my history, and I want my mother raised. She had two jobs she raised me. I never had a male fee, so I will borrow the streets for a male fear which were Pim gang members, drug sellers dangling on me. 828 01:32:40.360 --> 01:32:49.589 Jody Mortimer: So if I would have had some a male figure to do things with. Go play ball. I've never been camping. I've never been fishing. I've never done none of those things. 829 01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:58.160 Jody Mortimer: Now I believe that if I would have had a male figure it would have changed my whole life. I really do believe that. 830 01:33:10.030 --> 01:33:25.690 Jody Mortimer: And ah, yeah, the mail-figure would have definitely helped. Also, when I got a youth authority, I tried to join join the service, and I do believe that the service. I was twenty two when I got out and read the board, 831 01:33:25.700 --> 01:33:31.649 Jody Mortimer: but by then I was already pretty messed up, and they wouldn't accept me, even in the Marine Corps, 832 01:33:31.660 --> 01:33:38.369 Brian U: so that while I was in to the story I got into a lot of trouble, so I mean it's pretty bad when the service 833 01:33:38.390 --> 01:33:41.299 Jody Mortimer: won't take you, and 834 01:33:41.460 --> 01:33:45.099 Jody Mortimer: I believe that that would have directly changed my life. 835 01:33:45.730 --> 01:33:48.650 Jody Mortimer: You I mean, I n 836 01:33:48.720 --> 01:33:50.069 Jody Mortimer: you know this 837 01:33:50.100 --> 01:33:54.139 Jody Mortimer: a male figure, just somebody to show me the direction 838 01:33:54.310 --> 01:34:01.179 Jody Mortimer: what it would have drastically changed my life. Number of true things I can think of off the top of my head. 839 01:34:02.420 --> 01:34:05.010 Brian U: No, it's great. I'm standing 840 01:34:06.910 --> 01:34:09.150 frank murphy: anybody else with questions. 841 01:34:11.200 --> 01:34:18.819 Brian U: I just want to say congratulations, your your role model for a lot of people that are behind you that need your help. 842 01:34:18.830 --> 01:34:35.469 Brian U: And when you said you want to commit to helping others, that's exactly what we're talking about with lived experience, you know you can go to the people that had similar backgrounds with you, and once you show them what happened to you, and how you pulled yourself up and got better. 843 01:34:35.550 --> 01:34:48.669 Brian U: It's. It's the helper theory. What you do for other people is going to pay big dividends to you, and it gives you purpose, and and God bless man! Congratulations on! Pull yourself up. 844 01:34:48.680 --> 01:35:05.829 Brian U: Thank you. Thank you for your help, too, and what you do, all of you. I really I really admire you guys more than anything, you know, if I had like you, for instance, as a mentor when I was growing up, my life would be changed fast if we saw. 845 01:35:05.940 --> 01:35:13.250 Brian U: I'm like, Thank you for that. You're very welcome here to help. Jodi can put you in contact with us for anything you need. 846 01:35:13.290 --> 01:35:20.489 Brian U: Okay, brother, thank you. All of you. Does anybody in the audience have a question for Larry? 847 01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:24.960 vicki halliday: He's 848 01:35:25.390 --> 01:35:29.939 vicki halliday: Larry. Um, Thank you so much for 849 01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:34.219 vicki halliday: It's It's important to hear the stories, and i'm glad that you came, and 850 01:35:34.620 --> 01:35:36.490 vicki halliday: in two years to us 851 01:35:36.500 --> 01:35:37.889 vicki halliday: it's very important. 852 01:35:38.180 --> 01:35:39.320 Jody Mortimer: Thank you. 853 01:35:40.170 --> 01:35:50.099 Jody Mortimer: Thank you for listening to it, and and and for the knowing that I can call on you guys to help me if I need something 854 01:35:50.490 --> 01:36:01.990 Jody Mortimer: to give back, because I need purpose today. I need purpose in a positive way that I am giving back that I ain't taking no more so much. 855 01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:03.629 Jody Mortimer: It's a pretty 856 01:36:04.970 --> 01:36:12.200 Brian U: right Yeah, thank you so much, Larry. I really appreciate it. There are jobs out there for you to do this work 857 01:36:19.640 --> 01:36:21.290 Jody Mortimer: into every day. I don't, 858 01:36:21.300 --> 01:36:22.209 Jody Mortimer: and then it's. 859 01:36:23.970 --> 01:36:26.840 Brian U: Can you hear me? I'm here, 860 01:36:28.920 --> 01:36:31.850 frank murphy: Jody, you gotta stay on that uh 861 01:36:32.060 --> 01:36:34.050 frank murphy: speaker. There, 862 01:36:35.270 --> 01:36:36.650 Jody Mortimer: i'm not either. 863 01:36:42.400 --> 01:36:44.089 frank murphy: You're muted Now 864 01:36:45.060 --> 01:36:45.789 we have to change. 865 01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:47.989 Jody Mortimer: Yeah, I was just going to say, Can you hear me? 866 01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:49.120 Brian U: Yes, 867 01:36:49.300 --> 01:37:00.259 Jody Mortimer: there are guys that are coming out of institutions every day that are going into the sober living houses here in Venice ventures. I think Stan is one of these, 868 01:37:01.380 --> 01:37:03.829 Jody Mortimer: of course, for that also share is also. 869 01:37:05.760 --> 01:37:10.419 Ansar Muhammad: I would like to pass my number rarely to you if you can take it down. 870 01:37:18.080 --> 01:37:23.650 vicki halliday: I see a hand up in the audience. Um, Erica, do you want to say something? 871 01:37:25.420 --> 01:37:45.070 Erica Moore: Hi, there! I just wanted to to ah to ah just support the last speaker and say, Um, how happy I am for him that he's found his way. Um, my oldest son, who was my Boston, is in prison right now, and he was homeless for a period of time, and I know how painful that is. 872 01:37:45.080 --> 01:37:59.840 Erica Moore: And ah! You know he'll be coming out, but not for another like ten years, and what I feel is something so critical is the support you receive when you come out of prison. I think a lot of people who have been in prison. Come back. 873 01:37:59.850 --> 01:38:07.170 Erica Moore: They're not plugged in, and they end up on the streets. I think that's a real reality, and I think that that's something that really needs to be addressed. 874 01:38:08.800 --> 01:38:10.050 Erica Moore: I'm sorry. 875 01:38:10.060 --> 01:38:17.569 Jody Mortimer: Go ahead, finish. Oh, I just I mean, do you? I mean, do you feel that it sounds 876 01:38:17.620 --> 01:38:19.389 Erica Moore: four or some 877 01:38:19.400 --> 01:38:22.729 Jody Mortimer: assisted somehow to help you integrate back in. 878 01:38:22.960 --> 01:38:25.889 Jody Mortimer: I have a musk recovery. 879 01:38:26.320 --> 01:38:29.729 Jody Mortimer: My recovery was learned. 880 01:38:49.900 --> 01:39:06.870 Jody Mortimer: She does. She does really good work. Everybody that works there. Ah, they really made me feel well. Ah, the best thing you can do, because we're labeled when we get out, and you and we go, and and if nobody reaches out to us, then we go back to the same thing that we know. 881 01:39:06.880 --> 01:39:17.829 Jody Mortimer: So it's very important for the community to to help, and and there's got to be some kind of program 882 01:39:18.940 --> 01:39:21.800 Jody Mortimer: sometimes. They're there. 883 01:39:26.850 --> 01:39:31.639 Jody Mortimer: I didn't have no purpose. So I did what I knew how to do. 884 01:39:32.070 --> 01:39:35.170 Jody Mortimer: You know A. A. N. 885 01:39:35.260 --> 01:39:47.590 Jody Mortimer: Yeah. I mean, i'm so happy you can recover my son actually doesn't have any kind of issue which is surprising. I'm really thankful. But it is surprising, based on this 886 01:39:47.600 --> 01:40:00.690 Erica Moore: his situation. So it's a little. I'm not sure. I want to support him, obviously as best as I can, and he actually had pulled himself out of homelessness before. Unfortunately, he got arrested for 887 01:40:00.700 --> 01:40:03.179 Erica Moore: many years Prior. 888 01:40:03.210 --> 01:40:06.049 Erica Moore: Um! So it was that was hard to see. 889 01:40:06.090 --> 01:40:18.189 Erica Moore: But I really appreciated your story, and thank you so much for being vulnerable and sharing your truth with us. It's very inspiring, and all of us can always be encouraged by that. Thank you. 890 01:40:18.200 --> 01:40:20.310 Jody Mortimer: Thank you. And all of you. 891 01:40:20.730 --> 01:40:22.260 frank murphy: Thanks, Erica. 892 01:40:22.380 --> 01:40:23.960 frank murphy: Anybody else. 893 01:40:24.840 --> 01:40:26.920 vicki halliday: I didn't see any hands up. 894 01:40:26.970 --> 01:40:28.070 frank murphy: Yeah, 895 01:40:29.530 --> 01:40:34.479 Brian U: right there They'll They'll put his hand up. Now i'm gonna 896 01:40:34.670 --> 01:40:36.249 vicki halliday: go ahead, Bill. 897 01:40:36.980 --> 01:40:38.489 bill: Are you able to hear me? 898 01:40:38.500 --> 01:40:39.349 vicki halliday: Yes, 899 01:40:39.460 --> 01:40:47.449 bill: Larry, a question for you. You talked about how difficult it is to do what you have done, 900 01:40:47.570 --> 01:40:53.770 bill: what what made it possible for you to get in the living arrangement you're now in 901 01:40:54.450 --> 01:41:14.179 Jody Mortimer: before I, prior to me getting out of prison. I sent a lot of letters out to these different programs. In fact, when I pulled from Pelagon Bay I paroleed right to um Elsa. Ah, so it's a it's a a drug, a Libyan drug program. I was there for eighteen months, 902 01:41:14.190 --> 01:41:32.769 Jody Mortimer: and that really helped me a lot because it was still structured, and you know it was, but it allowed me to go out and start, you know, a little bit instead of see, when you do a lot of time in prison, and they they open the gates, and they give you two hundred dollars, and it's like you can do anything you want to do. It's like 903 01:41:32.780 --> 01:41:44.189 Jody Mortimer: the only thing you know how to run as fast as you can, and and do as much as you can, because you haven't, you know. I mean you've been locked up. That's gonna get you in trouble. 904 01:41:44.200 --> 01:41:51.910 Jody Mortimer: No, because you're going to start the birthday. It was buying ninety one dollars with a go. Do you think you're going to be a drug? 905 01:41:52.130 --> 01:42:03.060 Jody Mortimer: You know a big dealer, and you've been a Well, if you're a drug, add an opportunity. The only customer you're going to get is yourself going to be your best customer. 906 01:42:03.430 --> 01:42:09.490 Jody Mortimer: You're not going to make it as if people forward. 907 01:42:16.300 --> 01:42:19.690 frank murphy: That makes Bill you got uh, 908 01:42:21.580 --> 01:42:38.669 bill: Larry, I thank you for making me aware that that living arrangements like the one you're in even exist here in Venice. I I've been here for over thirty years, and I've probably walked out about right down your by your place. But I never knew 909 01:42:38.680 --> 01:42:44.589 bill: that the facilities you're describing exist here in Venice. 910 01:42:44.600 --> 01:42:46.949 Jody Mortimer: I'm glad to know. Excuse me, 911 01:42:48.210 --> 01:42:55.590 Jody Mortimer: there is there. Is it three of them on my block three different silver livings There is, 912 01:42:55.760 --> 01:43:14.689 Jody Mortimer: I believe, that it would help if, if, like the media and social media, or how reset would, would, would reach out to to people getting out instead of labeling us, putting us in a box, like so many people do in this society, 913 01:43:14.700 --> 01:43:19.279 Jody Mortimer: and they already throw us away before we have a chance. 914 01:43:19.290 --> 01:43:21.589 Jody Mortimer: There's a lot of good people just like 915 01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:25.090 Jody Mortimer: the the lady a minute ago. There, 916 01:43:25.100 --> 01:43:25.969 Jody Mortimer: um! 917 01:43:26.330 --> 01:43:35.189 Jody Mortimer: He said, our son Doesn't have a problem. Well, of course, ninety something percent of the prison population today 918 01:43:35.240 --> 01:43:47.240 Jody Mortimer: are mostly drug, adds. But there's an element of people that are just criminals problems. We all have our demons, and 919 01:43:47.250 --> 01:43:58.400 Jody Mortimer: we all need help. We need each other somewhere along the way we stop caring out of fear or whatever, and we don't reach out to people because 920 01:43:58.810 --> 01:44:03.639 Jody Mortimer: they're you're scared. You're gonna get burned. You stare! 921 01:44:03.650 --> 01:44:08.369 Brian U: This person's going to take me for my money. Sure, there's There's a few bad apples. 922 01:44:15.600 --> 01:44:16.769 Jody Mortimer: Um, 923 01:44:16.960 --> 01:44:20.760 Jody Mortimer: I don't know if i'm getting off track of what the question was. 924 01:44:20.770 --> 01:44:31.289 Jody Mortimer: But that's what it takes, and I believe that if more programs were offered like trade schools, 925 01:44:31.520 --> 01:44:32.889 there are three to the 926 01:44:34.190 --> 01:44:35.860 vicki halliday: what's in you, Larry? 927 01:44:35.870 --> 01:44:38.800 Jody Mortimer: Oh, i'm sorry. Is it better 928 01:44:38.810 --> 01:44:42.409 vicki halliday: now you're back? Okay? Um, 929 01:44:42.460 --> 01:44:45.469 Jody Mortimer: yes, I do believe that. That Yeah. 930 01:44:45.660 --> 01:44:58.399 Jody Mortimer: And also on our part, the guys that are getting out. They need to show more effort as well, I mean because you can't get out and have everything handed to you, because then you're not going to change. 931 01:44:58.550 --> 01:45:02.499 Jody Mortimer: You got to do upon yourself. You gotta want to change 932 01:45:07.400 --> 01:45:08.739 Jody Mortimer: like I said 933 01:45:09.530 --> 01:45:12.899 Jody Mortimer: I was involved. I was a career criminal. 934 01:45:18.910 --> 01:45:23.490 Jody Mortimer: Why, that you know, some way, somehow, 935 01:45:23.600 --> 01:45:26.250 Jody Mortimer: I had to make the first effort 936 01:45:27.170 --> 01:45:28.790 Jody Mortimer: to change, 937 01:45:29.450 --> 01:45:31.000 Jody Mortimer: I believe. 938 01:45:31.570 --> 01:45:32.730 Jody Mortimer: No, it's a 939 01:45:33.960 --> 01:45:37.519 Jody Mortimer: It takes the desired chain, 940 01:45:38.610 --> 01:45:51.419 Jody Mortimer: You know a lot of us don't have that desire because we see no hope. And if you don't have no hope that's the worst thing for any human being, because once you lose hope, 941 01:45:52.060 --> 01:45:53.179 Jody Mortimer: he, 942 01:45:53.190 --> 01:45:54.700 Jody Mortimer: there's nothing else 943 01:45:55.030 --> 01:45:58.709 Jody Mortimer: like with homeless people. A lot of them lose hope. 944 01:45:59.350 --> 01:46:02.009 Jody Mortimer: Did they lose her? 945 01:46:02.120 --> 01:46:05.220 Jody Mortimer: Oh, why should I even get help, 946 01:46:10.050 --> 01:46:12.720 Jody Mortimer: but I know for me when I lost hope 947 01:46:12.910 --> 01:46:18.790 Jody Mortimer: I became a very dangerous brazen person. 948 01:46:18.800 --> 01:46:19.969 Jody Mortimer: There was. 949 01:46:35.400 --> 01:46:38.420 Jody Mortimer: Yeah. Well, then, you know what i'm talking about. 950 01:46:38.590 --> 01:46:39.830 Jody Mortimer: You know 951 01:46:39.840 --> 01:46:57.799 Jody Mortimer: a lot of times prison saved me, but I guess my point is that we got us as men. We got to to one it. I think that there should be more inside programs, and I wish people would be more involved in an Aa and na 952 01:46:57.920 --> 01:47:05.759 Jody Mortimer: off-step programs are really, you know, they're the only ones that are born in. And speaking to these gentlemen that are getting out. 953 01:47:35.630 --> 01:47:37.510 frank murphy: Thank you. 954 01:47:38.030 --> 01:47:42.789 Brian U: He does it. Thanks, Larry. He totally gets it. 955 01:47:43.360 --> 01:47:53.019 vicki halliday: Yep, stay in your hand. Is that? Did you want to ask him anything? But I could? I could stay here all night listening to the 956 01:47:53.180 --> 01:47:58.580 Ansar Muhammad: These are These are clear indications that redemption is real, 957 01:47:58.970 --> 01:48:07.349 Ansar Muhammad: you know, and second opportunities and third opportunities, and for opportunities is needed. 958 01:48:07.750 --> 01:48:20.959 Ansar Muhammad: Um, i'm not sure. I know admission, Lincoln, but i'm not sure not if I want to ask you so. Some of your crew are. Are they on the street now? They are they Are they wrestling in peace? Are they locked up? 959 01:48:21.270 --> 01:48:37.240 Jody Mortimer: You're dead like everybody from Mike, and in Venice, or either dead. I think there's only one of us is alive, and he's doing three life sentences, so he's never going to get out um everybody else. That's pretty. 960 01:48:37.320 --> 01:48:44.710 Jody Mortimer: Everybody else has pretty much passed on. What if What's the brother name was doing through life. Parents? 961 01:48:44.860 --> 01:48:46.190 Jody Mortimer: What's his name? 962 01:48:46.200 --> 01:48:47.280 Jody Mortimer: Yeah. Sleepy 963 01:48:47.320 --> 01:48:49.289 Ansar Muhammad: Sleeping? Yeah. Yes. 964 01:48:49.650 --> 01:48:53.590 Ansar Muhammad: So uh man, Do you? Uh you? You remember, Dikey, 965 01:48:59.940 --> 01:49:07.870 Jody Mortimer: I really I don't really want to say names. 966 01:49:07.890 --> 01:49:11.789 Ansar Muhammad: They both passed man, but they was instrumental 967 01:49:12.110 --> 01:49:18.509 Ansar Muhammad: and creating what we now have called the non-aggression. Agreement between the 968 01:49:18.670 --> 01:49:21.670 Ansar Muhammad: the shuttle lies in the in the beat, their teams. 969 01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:27.350 Ansar Muhammad: And as we thought of that work we haven't had, 970 01:49:27.650 --> 01:49:31.490 Ansar Muhammad: You know, major problems, man, and it's really a beautiful thing, you know, 971 01:49:31.500 --> 01:49:39.939 Jody Mortimer: is in my I see those guys that I mentioned was the ones that was you know, who put that together. 972 01:49:40.910 --> 01:49:44.480 Jody Mortimer: That's crazy. If more people were, you 973 01:49:44.650 --> 01:50:00.590 Jody Mortimer: would realize that that's what I meant by. We got to have the desire we got to step up. We got to be example, I remember revenue shootouts in Culver City Project with from vanish I mean running from Brendan sterial. So you remember 974 01:50:00.600 --> 01:50:03.329 Jody Mortimer: eighties in the seventies. I was man. 975 01:50:03.340 --> 01:50:05.539 Jody Mortimer: Yeah, no, i'm not. 976 01:50:06.230 --> 01:50:12.050 Jody Mortimer: We got to have a desire somewhere, somehow, and the she's got a young hate, but 977 01:50:12.470 --> 01:50:16.209 Jody Mortimer: because the seed of evil is planted at a young age, 978 01:50:16.790 --> 01:50:17.860 Jody Mortimer: so 979 01:50:18.360 --> 01:50:30.399 Jody Mortimer: us as as a community. We got a plant, Caesar of prosperity and positive and 980 01:50:41.100 --> 01:50:44.470 Jody Mortimer: and they're the ones that you know. What are we leaving now? 981 01:50:50.730 --> 01:50:53.370 Jody Mortimer: That that's all I can really say on my whole life. 982 01:50:53.380 --> 01:50:54.580 Jody Mortimer: The answer 983 01:50:57.580 --> 01:51:00.440 Ansar Muhammad: looking forward to seeing you. Brahma, come through there now, 984 01:51:00.450 --> 01:51:01.510 Brian U: all right. 985 01:51:01.980 --> 01:51:04.319 Jody Mortimer: That's what it means. So 986 01:51:08.040 --> 01:51:09.480 frank murphy: okay, 987 01:51:11.670 --> 01:51:22.139 frank murphy: So we've got public comment on non-agenda items If anybody wishes to speak does anybody, 988 01:51:23.180 --> 01:51:23.889 frank murphy: the 989 01:51:23.900 --> 01:51:26.069 frank murphy: from the public one. I took comment, 990 01:51:27.310 --> 01:51:31.129 vicki halliday: Let's wait a sec. I don't see any hands up. 991 01:51:36.370 --> 01:51:38.090 vicki halliday: That's a yearly. 992 01:51:38.140 --> 01:51:39.519 frank murphy: All right. 993 01:51:40.100 --> 01:51:45.240 frank murphy: Well let's go to committee, comments. Anybody 994 01:51:46.200 --> 01:51:52.999 frank murphy: Anybody have further anything else. They want to talk about that wasn't covered tonight. 995 01:51:53.240 --> 01:52:08.220 Brian U: No, i'm so blown away by the two discussions tonight. Stands, and Larry's that It's It's a lot. I agree around everything. It's. It's very both of. Thank you, Stan: Thank you, Larry. And very good. We can do it for, too. 996 01:52:08.250 --> 01:52:11.739 Brian U: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I should have had a 997 01:52:11.980 --> 01:52:19.690 Brian U: i'm not sure why or on you. I'm not sure how much the public really understands anything about what's happening on the street, 998 01:52:19.940 --> 01:52:21.059 Brian U: you know. 999 01:52:21.580 --> 01:52:23.789 Brian U: As it relates to this topic, 1000 01:52:23.800 --> 01:52:38.410 Brian U: it's the gang of the game situation in the in the actual work guys like Stan can do. I mean, I know Stan gets supported financially a little bit, just like a couple of these other organizations, but it's nowhere near 1001 01:52:38.420 --> 01:52:56.000 Brian U: the value that he could get. I mean, when you look at the circle, and i'm not going to bus them. It's just. But you see exactly what stands doing on these streets, and if they give them fifty grand versus one hundred grand versus a half a million to load up. We fix our problems on the street. 1002 01:52:56.010 --> 01:53:11.290 Brian U: That's right, and and that and that's that's not. You know we all of a sudden you get promoted because you're on this homeless committee stand, they say. Oh, you're just trying to do this for money. And this is all about that. This isn't about money. You're doing this because this is what you're meant to be doing, 1003 01:53:11.300 --> 01:53:30.560 Brian U: and and you had that lived experience, and and you actually see the results. And so I think it's really important to educate the public as to really what's happening on some of these smaller companies, and you look at West Coast care the guy on the beach. Bron sent three hundred people home. I mean. That's huge stuff, 1004 01:53:30.850 --> 01:53:32.869 Brian U: you know, and ah, 1005 01:53:32.880 --> 01:53:44.389 Brian U: it's just the small it's like Regina well on her when she was here, you know she get fifty grand from Mike. I've got fifty grand for my stan's got fifty grand from Mike, and he supported our programs. But 1006 01:53:44.400 --> 01:53:53.019 Brian U: where the millions that it can really make the difference in making this thing work 1007 01:54:09.940 --> 01:54:15.690 Brian U: right? I think I think. Can we talk about that one for just a second? I think it's an interesting topic. 1008 01:54:15.700 --> 01:54:23.949 Brian U: Yeah, I You know my understanding of the one hundred and fifty million that that went back. When you have all these funding streams, Ricky, 1009 01:54:23.960 --> 01:54:29.340 Brian U: they're so detailed into the exact then that you can do with that money, you. 1010 01:54:29.420 --> 01:54:59.069 Brian U: And when when these agencies get audited, or whatever, and all of a sudden they'll see this or see that, and they go. Oh, no! That that funding can't go to. Ah, a woman and a child! It can only go to the woman, or it can't go here, and so they don't meet you where you're at, because they put the box in the funding. So if you don't do exactly what it is you have to give the money back because you're even though there's fifty other things you could do if that money stayed in the in the pocket. 1011 01:54:59.620 --> 01:55:04.880 Brian U: It just has to go back because of the languaging that that the funding comes with, 1012 01:55:05.160 --> 01:55:07.729 Brian U: and that's the horrible thing 1013 01:55:07.890 --> 01:55:18.199 Brian U: you know we apply for so many things. But if you don't have this, you don't get it, or if you have this, and then you change, they take it away, and it's just It's just how it works, 1014 01:55:18.780 --> 01:55:35.600 Brian U: and it's horrible. Yeah, there should be one funnel that says, Hey, i'm coming to the i'm coming to the funnel for what this happens, and you get to fill that funnel. But there are so many rules in all of those funnels that it virtually makes it impossible because of bureaucracy. 1015 01:55:36.690 --> 01:55:39.310 vicki halliday: That's it. That's 1016 01:55:39.450 --> 01:55:40.690 vicki halliday: yes, 1017 01:55:40.730 --> 01:55:42.400 Brian U: the 1018 01:55:42.490 --> 01:55:50.840 Brian U: it's like Hud Hud, only you know it's vouchers. Okay, their house. The housing vouchers are only for a single apartment. 1019 01:55:50.930 --> 01:55:59.490 Brian U: Why couldn't they use the housing vouchers to to do, shared housing until they find and build one of those things. 1020 01:55:59.500 --> 01:56:17.399 Brian U: When you're just sitting with all these vouchers, and they're saying, No, these guys are. That's the distrust that happens on the street and standnosis, which is why the lived experienced people versus the other outreach workers. All they can offer is is a dream, and we'll be right back, and you don't come back because you don't have it 1021 01:56:17.410 --> 01:56:24.439 Brian U: so. Why not put the vouchers to use. You know there's six hundred or eight hundred dollars to start paying rent for people 1022 01:56:24.450 --> 01:56:32.120 Brian U: in in other programs, but you can't, because Hud restricts it, and not only funds brand new construction, single door. 1023 01:56:32.180 --> 01:56:33.450 Brian U: Ah, 1024 01:56:33.940 --> 01:56:38.810 Brian U: you're just stuck based on these funding streams that have so many different requirements in them, 1025 01:56:40.480 --> 01:56:48.759 Jody Mortimer: actually thought Some of those requirements were relaxed during Kovat, but they've started re They started with the 1026 01:56:49.790 --> 01:56:53.620 Jody Mortimer: Rel, looking at all those requirements again. It's making it really hard. It's 1027 01:56:53.630 --> 01:57:05.269 Brian U: dirty. The funding goes to the specific person, for the specific reason that's in the grant that if you apply for to get that money, and you can't vary off of that. 1028 01:57:05.410 --> 01:57:15.270 Brian U: Ah, and and that's when they audit. And say, you can't. You can't spend the money there, or if you don't spend it like like when they're buying these hotel rooms in the beginning, 1029 01:57:15.280 --> 01:57:31.549 Brian U: you know the the I don't know who was the The branch gave a billion dollars or five hundred million dollars, and the the housing that went out and started negotiating with these hotels, they said, Hey, if I don't buy this many hotels by December thirty first. We lose that funding, 1030 01:57:31.790 --> 01:57:46.390 Brian U: so they're trying to spend the money and closing deals, but they offered the Jolly Roger four hundred and eighty five thousand dollars a door to buy the jelly, Roger, with with a thirty day window, to do all due diligence, because the money was going to go away on twelve, thirty, One. 1031 01:57:46.400 --> 01:57:47.570 Jody Mortimer: Oh, it's not. 1032 01:57:47.750 --> 01:57:53.250 Brian U: Yeah, I mean so a lot of these things. You use it or you lose it, you 1033 01:57:53.410 --> 01:57:58.079 Brian U: and and it's sad when that happens, 1034 01:57:58.090 --> 01:58:01.119 Brian U: because there's a lot of people that could have used that one hundred and fifty million, 1035 01:58:02.010 --> 01:58:06.130 Brian U: one one million at a time for five hundred at a time 1036 01:58:06.500 --> 01:58:07.620 that 1037 01:58:08.860 --> 01:58:27.120 Brian U: it is ah encouraging to hear the news about District eleven's numbers um. I don't know if they're all that accurate there, but it has to be shuffling around, but maybe ah! Over the last two years. But that's getting off the streets and with the room key. Maybe it's made a little bit improved, But you did say it went up four percent 1038 01:58:27.130 --> 01:58:29.029 Jody Mortimer: overall in not Los Angeles. 1039 01:58:29.210 --> 01:58:37.250 frank murphy: Yeah, I went up four percent overall in Los Angeles. The final numbers. But the 1040 01:58:39.200 --> 01:58:46.160 frank murphy: the numbers out here on the west side went down, went down thirty-seven. So that was a big 1041 01:58:46.550 --> 01:58:52.920 frank murphy: on Cd eleven, and you know, in Venice we went down fifty, one percent. So that was huge. Yeah, 1042 01:58:53.030 --> 01:59:04.980 frank murphy: um! There is discrepancies in the numbers, and that's when I get to the point where I 1043 01:59:04.990 --> 01:59:19.230 frank murphy: ah Dario gets to the point where he's got the the the data sorted out. We'll see we'll see if we can present it. I think it's. I think it might be pretty good, but we'll see, you know. 1044 01:59:19.980 --> 01:59:25.339 Brian U: You know. There's a lot of people. Also I get phone calls on the Project room. Key Cadillac 1045 01:59:25.610 --> 01:59:37.469 Brian U: Padlock was was ah signed, at least with the county for Covid for sixty four years and older for a pre-existing condition to get him off the street during Covid. 1046 01:59:37.620 --> 01:59:38.929 Brian U: Ah! 1047 01:59:39.160 --> 01:59:48.620 Brian U: Some of that population and the Covid stuff ended in that population left that building, and they're back, filling it now with the encampments, 1048 01:59:48.630 --> 02:00:04.869 Brian U: and there's a lot of neighbors are saying, God, if that was the use and Home Key versus Room Key Room key is the Cadillac, How did they get the change they use to take people from encampments to put over the Cadillac that really Don't live by the same rules as you did when you lived there for Project Room Key. 1049 02:00:04.910 --> 02:00:19.090 Brian U: Ah! And and the neighbors are besieged by what's going on? Because, yes, they provide services. But how many people use them. So, Vicki, you hear? Probably a lot about that. That's one of the worst corners in Venice is right there, Dudley. They've circled the yeah, 1050 02:00:19.100 --> 02:00:29.830 Brian U: and They've held her all through here, and that does that. It's my understanding that that police comes up at the end of the year. 1051 02:00:29.840 --> 02:00:33.139 Brian U: That lease was renewed until February of two thousand and twenty-three 1052 02:00:33.150 --> 02:00:38.450 frank murphy: February twenty twentieth twenty. So yeah. So february I end of the year first, the next year. 1053 02:00:38.460 --> 02:00:46.379 vicki halliday: Oh, There' be a lot of changes in February, because that's also when Urban Alchemy's lease 1054 02:00:46.580 --> 02:00:54.370 vicki halliday: the Westminster Center, and they got it extended because they're looking for other office space 1055 02:00:55.250 --> 02:01:08.490 Brian U: reckoned all right iron, and they left there. Did they not leave Mary at Vicki? I don't know I haven't been over in the list. I saw I was doing outreach on third in the rose, and a guy that runs the pitfall pit. Stop the restrooms there. 1056 02:01:08.500 --> 02:01:12.479 Brian U: Yeah. So he used to be there, and he said that they're they're gone. And 1057 02:01:12.610 --> 02:01:19.389 Brian U: I thought Steve said, Yeah, I thought Steve said they were leaving there, but I don't 1058 02:01:19.400 --> 02:01:23.670 Brian U: sure sure be great to get that back into the twelve-step meeting space, 1059 02:01:30.900 --> 02:01:36.879 vicki halliday: looking at what was there the senior center of the recovery programs that 1060 02:01:37.380 --> 02:01:51.130 Brian U: it can be multiple Yeah. And parking. Rex is looking at stuff. Now's the time to contact her and and push to get the recovery roots back in there. Amongst other things. 1061 02:01:51.170 --> 02:01:54.590 Brian U: Yeah, you think you think our councilman would want to do that. 1062 02:01:55.520 --> 02:02:03.789 vicki halliday: I don't know, but it's up to park and wreck It's their it's their building. Yeah, but and we can push. We can certainly push for you. 1063 02:02:03.800 --> 02:02:07.989 Brian U: I mean Mike's in recovery. It Mike's in recovery, so he knows that it works. 1064 02:02:08.000 --> 02:02:08.690 Yes, 1065 02:02:08.700 --> 02:02:16.069 frank murphy: well, but but it's not. It's truly not up to Mike at this point. I mean we have, 1066 02:02:17.280 --> 02:02:27.179 Brian U: so it seems, on the case. So I would. I would contact her and talk to her about it, but I think the senior meals again all sorts of things, 1067 02:02:27.490 --> 02:02:32.429 Brian U: but I also think that the the opportunity with the 1068 02:02:32.820 --> 02:02:38.709 frank murphy: new candidates is is a golden opportunity to to be putting forth anything 1069 02:02:38.960 --> 02:02:42.960 especially early in their administration. Whomever it may be, 1070 02:02:45.440 --> 02:02:53.339 frank murphy: we do have. Do we have a St. Joseph center, I think, is coming to the next meeting 1071 02:02:53.410 --> 02:02:59.169 vicki halliday: hopefully, and we're going to have Brian do a presentation also shortly. 1072 02:02:59.180 --> 02:03:01.670 frank murphy: Um, so. 1073 02:03:02.000 --> 02:03:08.689 frank murphy: And I think we should do another one up with with Mohammed also. 1074 02:03:08.700 --> 02:03:09.490 vicki halliday: Oh, yes, 1075 02:03:09.500 --> 02:03:19.649 vicki halliday: we need to really focus on the out on the well. We should do a Town hall, a Homeless Committee Council, 1076 02:03:19.720 --> 02:03:23.239 vicki halliday: and heavily promoted, because I think 1077 02:03:24.420 --> 02:03:32.560 vicki halliday: I think it's such good information for the community, as I've said with Stan, I mean all of us know that the games exist. 1078 02:03:32.910 --> 02:03:35.940 vicki halliday: We don't always know exactly 1079 02:03:36.220 --> 02:03:40.710 vicki halliday: how they're affecting our daily lives, especially here near the beach, 1080 02:03:40.810 --> 02:03:43.269 vicki halliday: and they are 1081 02:03:45.230 --> 02:03:56.900 Brian U: it's in every encampment. It's in every encampment, and I think that you know knowledge is power. It's good to know It's good to know what options are. It's good to know what's going on. 1082 02:03:57.400 --> 02:04:01.290 vicki halliday: And um, we need to promote it much wider. 1083 02:04:01.300 --> 02:04:02.150 Brian U: Yeah, 1084 02:04:02.160 --> 02:04:13.389 Brian U: I mean It's just great that we have the six people that that attended maybe eleven. But we should have a thousand people here. This story on Really, what's the truth that's happening on the streets? Yeah. 1085 02:04:13.400 --> 02:04:22.079 Brian U: And we can have. And how does it operate? I mean the bridge housing. No one's there because it's not safe. 1086 02:04:22.090 --> 02:04:26.390 Brian U: Okay, you got fifteen dollars. You have fifteen dollars an hour guards on the corners 1087 02:04:26.400 --> 02:04:36.660 Brian U: with a twenty dollars bump. He's making thirty five an hour. Come right in It's unbelievable. The lack, 1088 02:04:36.940 --> 02:04:47.220 Brian U: you know, of security, but it's the harm reduction model. It's so hard to fight. If it was, I don't know why 1089 02:04:48.340 --> 02:05:05.380 Ansar Muhammad: the people that are identical. The people that I highlighted as former ganglers from Venice. These are people who can walk over there right now, and regularly, respectfully and peacefully, without any guns, without any sticks, without any bats. 1090 02:05:05.500 --> 02:05:22.449 Ansar Muhammad: But for whatever reason these people don't want to contract with an organization like ours. It would be people like Larry that I would have individuals who understand that the terrain individuals from the neighborhood, and when you have that type of person working, 1091 02:05:22.530 --> 02:05:24.250 Ansar Muhammad: we changed the day. 1092 02:05:24.260 --> 02:05:28.689 Brian U: Maybe we should have that conversation. But yeah, that's a party. 1093 02:05:28.700 --> 02:05:42.220 Brian U: I mean, share share, train, nine hundred pair bridges. People with lived experience. Those are the types of people that should be out there, and those people make forty. We pay them forty or fifty grand a year to do the outreach. 1094 02:05:42.230 --> 02:05:44.889 Brian U: Um, and they're effective. 1095 02:05:44.900 --> 02:05:49.629 Brian U: I don't know i'm i'm gonna say this uh I know, be a wrestling piece, Rosen bow. But 1096 02:05:50.150 --> 02:05:55.340 Ansar Muhammad: there was a murder on the beach when he was in office. I don't know if you all remember that, 1097 02:05:55.690 --> 02:06:01.040 Ansar Muhammad: he panic, I said, Man, I got to do something. I got to do something, so he found some money. 1098 02:06:01.100 --> 02:06:02.689 Ansar Muhammad: It was quick, 1099 02:06:02.930 --> 02:06:06.170 Ansar Muhammad: and we put a six man team up here 1100 02:06:06.750 --> 02:06:09.709 Ansar Muhammad: three Latino brothers from B, thirteen 1101 02:06:10.300 --> 02:06:16.179 Ansar Muhammad: and three African-american brothers from well, one female in Minnesota. 1102 02:06:16.530 --> 02:06:22.319 Ansar Muhammad: This is what they would do. The The point was the Khalak Hotel. 1103 02:06:22.420 --> 02:06:24.789 Ansar Muhammad: They checked in there, and they have well 1104 02:06:24.960 --> 02:06:30.790 Ansar Muhammad: all day up and down their boardwalk from the Kyl to the 1105 02:06:30.890 --> 02:06:34.140 Ansar Muhammad: uh, the basketball courts 1106 02:06:34.150 --> 02:06:41.559 Ansar Muhammad: Anything that they saw that was potentially gang stuff. They would do direct intervention and outreach 1107 02:06:42.150 --> 02:06:47.939 Ansar Muhammad: during those summer months we had zero. After that murder we had zero 1108 02:06:48.180 --> 02:06:50.239 Ansar Muhammad: getting involved activity, 1109 02:06:51.410 --> 02:06:58.039 Ansar Muhammad: the prick, the reason why I'm bringing that up, Because all these was again former gang members, and they was happy. 1110 02:06:58.310 --> 02:07:04.689 Ansar Muhammad: I mentioned Guy. He rested in peace, but he was happy to be able to get up and have a job 1111 02:07:05.250 --> 02:07:08.490 Ansar Muhammad: just really doing safety. Monitoring is in this neighborhood. 1112 02:07:08.500 --> 02:07:09.809 Jody Mortimer: It is happy. 1113 02:07:09.820 --> 02:07:14.990 Ansar Muhammad: So again, we need to have that conversation with those folks. 1114 02:07:15.000 --> 02:07:25.920 Brian U: Yeah. Or listen. Let's bring homeboy in That does the same kind of work for prison release for the Latino gang and female Latinos. 1115 02:07:25.930 --> 02:07:44.510 Brian U: They live in a clean place. They're not on the street, I when I've changed my license plates to home. Bro. Trying to change Skid Row to Hope Row If you live in Skid, and you act like skid, and you're in shit, you become that you live in hope and act like hope you become that you heard it tonight from Larry. That's That's It's social connection 1116 02:07:44.520 --> 02:08:02.849 Brian U: that brought Larry back, and he reached out and he got it. He got it through twelve steps. When I lived in a hotel room for eighteen months. It was until I got out into the Aa program at the Ymca. And met that person who was a mentor because he had something I wanted. 1117 02:08:02.880 --> 02:08:09.570 Brian U: You know he had his family. He had his job. He had this, and I was able to go through Enough of that. That it all came back for me 1118 02:08:09.580 --> 02:08:10.290 out. 1119 02:08:10.300 --> 02:08:14.299 Brian U: But it's social support and community and connectivity, and that's what Larry got, 1120 02:08:14.810 --> 02:08:17.969 Brian U: and that's what Larry said that the others need. 1121 02:08:18.500 --> 02:08:25.460 Brian U: You know. You know, when they open the doors on ab one hundred and nine, and let everybody out of the county jail with no 1122 02:08:25.600 --> 02:08:36.450 Brian U: no tie, no connection, no housing, no jobs, no probation. They just open the doors. Well, that's when they had to change the loss, because seventy percent were getting rearrested, 1123 02:08:36.460 --> 02:08:45.789 Brian U: and when they came back and got rearrested it overloaded the system again. So how do we not incarcerate and re-arrest? How we change the felonies to misdemeanors. 1124 02:08:45.800 --> 02:08:47.779 Brian U: And now you see what we've got now, 1125 02:08:47.840 --> 02:08:49.090 Brian U: and 1126 02:08:49.100 --> 02:08:58.729 Brian U: i'm not saying you have to incarcerate, but you definitely have to have a deterrent to to what they do, whether it's community service and we pay them, 1127 02:08:59.170 --> 02:09:05.920 Brian U: but they have to. They have to clean up if they're if they're the predators or the drug dealers or the people that stand 1128 02:09:06.110 --> 02:09:14.400 Brian U: is saying, You know the jeep. The Japanese model is to shame the parents. 1129 02:09:14.510 --> 02:09:24.200 Brian U: Yeah, that's going to work here. The king says something 1130 02:09:24.360 --> 02:09:29.609 Ansar Muhammad: before he was killed. He said that they are asking us to pull ourselves up 1131 02:09:29.790 --> 02:09:31.870 Ansar Muhammad: from our bootstraps, 1132 02:09:31.920 --> 02:09:39.490 vicki halliday: and King said, Well, you first got to give us a pair of boots. 1133 02:09:46.490 --> 02:09:48.740 Brian U: Well, and also 1134 02:09:49.140 --> 02:09:51.390 frank murphy: you have to have something at stage, 1135 02:09:51.400 --> 02:09:59.590 frank murphy: you know, like he was taught He and I think Larry talked to that, and I don't stand it. You know you've got to be invested in the community, and 1136 02:09:59.600 --> 02:10:02.490 frank murphy: there's no reason why these kids Aren't invested in the community. 1137 02:10:02.500 --> 02:10:03.539 frank murphy: No reason 1138 02:10:03.820 --> 02:10:05.239 frank murphy: just got it 1139 02:10:05.300 --> 02:10:07.379 frank murphy: make it available to them. 1140 02:10:08.050 --> 02:10:10.590 frank murphy: Anyhow, guys, this was really good. 1141 02:10:12.840 --> 02:10:15.790 frank murphy: It was a good good meeting. Thank you very much. 1142 02:10:15.800 --> 02:10:18.289 vicki halliday: Thank you. 1143 02:10:18.300 --> 02:10:20.499 Brian U: Thanks for all the attendees that listened in. 1144 02:10:20.580 --> 02:10:22.990 vicki halliday: Yes, thank you very much. 1145 02:10:23.000 --> 02:10:23.890 Brian U: Thank you. Okay, 1146 02:10:23.900 --> 02:10:29.889 Brian U: Well done, Stan: Thank you, Vicki: Thank you, Joey. A great great job bringing Larry. Thank you. 1147 02:10:29.900 --> 02:10:31.509 Jody Mortimer: You take care of what talk Frank. 1148 02:10:31.520 --> 02:10:32.750 I.