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Alley Bean: He. There,

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jim murez: hi! How are you?

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Alley Bean: I'm so sorry about the adcom thing. Did you hear about what happened over here?

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jim murez: Um,

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Alley Bean: A pipe broke. Yeah, but it was like a

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Alley Bean: three foot

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Alley Bean: fourth. What river of mud

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Alley Bean: came coursing down our canal and into most people's garages. That's terrible. It was really intense.

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Alley Bean: Yeah, i'm sure.

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jim murez: And the city always claims no responsibility.

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Alley Bean: I don't.

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Alley Bean: I know I don't

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jim murez: Vicki: um. Can you hear me? Okay,

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Vicki Halliday: Yes,

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jim murez: Um. Daffodil had to take a care of an emergency.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay,

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jim murez: it's going to be difficult for me to do both the

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jim murez: um,

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jim murez: the meeting and the agenda and also watch for when

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jim murez: people that need to to be promoted to panelists and stuff come in. Can I make you co-host for tonight, at least until she shows up. I don't know if she will show up. She was. She had a drive back from Silver Lake or something.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, Yeah, i'm happy to help.

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jim murez: Okay, So yeah, basically. If you can just monitor the

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Yeah, i'll get people in.

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jim murez: Okay.

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jim murez: So i'm gonna go ahead and make you co-host.

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Okay,

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Alley Bean: Vicki: I'm: having computer problems, and I might have to switch over if this thing cracks to my phone.

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Alley Bean: Okay, I'll just leave this and then come on my phone.

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Alley Bean: Okay, notes. I sometimes sometimes have audio problems, so I might have to text you. But I've got your number. I used to text Da: if I had audio from. But i'll okay.

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Alley Bean: Thank you.

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Alley Bean: I'm just going to go get my agenda.

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jim murez: One more person. I wonder if Jay Jay is,

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jim murez: if let me just allow to talk. Jay, can you hear me?

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jay: I can hear you.

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jim murez: Okay, Let me promote you. I didn't know who that was.

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jay: That was me.

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jim murez: Okay,

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jay: and I will be switching off in about five minutes to a computer.

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jay: I'm in my car right now.

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jim murez: All right, Vick Vicki: I'll keep an eye out for you because she should. Ah, Daffodil's Ah, running a little late tonight. It's not clear if she's going to be able to make it. Did you promote me, Jim?

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jim murez: Um, I did a while ago

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Vicki Halliday: not to co-host.

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jim murez: Yeah, I did

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jim murez: I know I did it just sometimes. These things Don't:

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jim murez: yeah, It says co-hosts next to your name? Oh, okay, fine, So I can. I didn't see it come up. No, no, we have. We have. I don't think it does. I think it just changes

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jim murez: that happened the other night when I promoted you, too. I don't think it tells you when it does. Only if I promote you to be host

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Vicki Halliday: it's funny in committee meetings. It tells you

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jim murez: your host. And if you've been made Co-host. Oh, I don't know Weird. Okay, Thank you.

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jim murez: Um. Okay. So It looks like as soon as we get solid out. And Robert in here.

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jim murez: Yeah, i'm doing it.

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jim murez: We can start our meeting

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jim murez: since we have twelve.

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jim murez: Another call in user one as well. If anybody is calling in that's on the board, Would you raise your hand? A star nine?

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jim murez: Oh, Mccall,

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jim murez: we call. I assume that's you.

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jim murez: You have to accept the promotion.

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jim murez: Mike. Bravo!

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jim murez: Okay, Thank you. I'm gonna go ahead and start if you can keep an eye to see If other people show up, we have enough people we can start to meet.

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Vicki Halliday: Sure.

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Thank you.

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jim murez: Um. Okay, let's call this meeting to order the time. Now is

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jim murez: whatever this thing says, it is six hundred and two.

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jim murez: Good evening, everyone. Daffodil is our vice president, and

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jim murez: she is running late. It's not clear If she's going to be showing up later or not. Some emergency came up so she'll be taking care of that. Vicky's going to be helping me. In the meantime I'm gonna start the roll call. James Meres is here deaf adults not here. Melissa Diner

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jim murez: jay-handel.

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jim murez: Say, you're here. If you're here,

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jim murez: J. You were here

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jay: here. Okay, great. Thank you. Vicki.

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Vicki Halliday: Here,

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jim murez: Bruno.

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Bruno Hernandez: Here,

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jim murez: Sima

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jim murez: Nikka

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jim murez: Nico

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Nico Ruderman: here. Thank you. Uh James Robb.

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jim murez: Ah stands not on the board. That's a mistake.

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jim murez: Chase and sugars.

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jim murez: Ali Bean

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Alley Bean: here,

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Bruno Hernandez: Kylon here

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Mike Bravo: like Bravo here,

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jim murez: Solidar,

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CJ Cole: C. J. Here,

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CJ Cole: here.

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CJ Cole: Oliver is not on the board. I have. This is out of the date. Okay, um, Elizabeth Clyde. He can't meet Robert Tiddo.

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Bruno Hernandez: That's right.

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jim murez: Can somebody quiet their dogg or mute their mic.

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Clark Brown: I'm Here, Jim, Thank you. Robert Clark here,

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jim murez: and Michelle

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jim murez: Okay, So we have fourteen people. That's a quorum. Let's get started if anybody comes in late and anybody happens to notice if they came in late Vicki Doesn't. Notice it. Please let us know so we can promote them.

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jim murez: Ex-parte communications or conflict of interest. I have no conflicts of interest, but I did have several conversations with people about the items, some of the items on the agenda, including the the

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jim murez: area around Penmark Park and the transportation project about business cards, all sorts of different stuff. So

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jim murez: yeah, just on the items on the agenda. Just conversations about conducting business.

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jim murez: Um, Robert, go ahead, please.

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robertthibodeau: Ah, same thing for me about the two Ptc. Items that are on the agenda. Obviously, I've talked to the people in ah in the capacity of arranging the meetings, and making sure that they,

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robertthibodeau: they, you know, had their presentations together and stuff like that. That was pretty much it.

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jim murez: Thank you, Kai, go ahead and you have your hand up.

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Chie: I have conflict with Rose Pinmar

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Chie: pathway being that I live right across the street and have worked with the original team that has been working with La City with it.

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jim murez: Okay. So if you are interested in making comment on the item when the item comes up, if you recuse yourself, leave the meeting um, and and turn off your camera and microphone. You want to come back and make public comment during the public comment period. You're more than welcome to do so, and you'll have the same rights that other people making public comment help

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jim murez: for that after the item ends. Then you can rejoin the meeting.

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robertthibodeau: Can I ask a clarification question on that? It seems as though, when we have items that sort of have to do with the boardwalk,

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robertthibodeau: which is sort of a transport, you know. It's not a transportation corridor. It's. It's an entertainment, whatever. Thing. Okay, people aren't recusing,

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robertthibodeau: which I don't expect them to, because there's no like real financial interest involved in like, let's say the scooters or the lights on the pier, or things like that. People don't recuse wouldn't the Rosab thing I mean, there's no

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robertthibodeau: it doesn't seem to me this is sort of a land use issue like whether or not you're building a mall or building. Let me interrupt you.

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robertthibodeau: Okay.

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jim murez: The issue is up to the individual to decide for themselves. If it's a conflict of interest because of financial.

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jim murez: They believe that there may be some kind of financial gain for them, or somehow they may benefit from the financial aspect of whatever it is that's being considered, it's up to them to contact the city attorney. If there's any question about it, they want to question whether or not it is or isn't. It's up to the individual board member to contact the city attorney, and then it's up to them to decide if they want to recuse her.

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robertthibodeau: Okay, thanks for the clarification.

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robertthibodeau: Thank you, Robert, for that as well. I just I was curious myself. You know what I mean. Yeah,

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robertthibodeau: yeah,

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Nico Ruderman: Okay, All right, Let's keep going. Robert, Sima, Sima and Freddy are in the

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Nico Ruderman: I know, and it's not

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Vicki Halliday: respond to me. Promote Freddy. But, Sima, I've tried to promote four times the

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jim murez: yeah, she sometimes has a poor connection. It doesn't work her. Well,

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jim murez: Mikkel, go ahead. You have your hand up.

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Michael: You got to unmute. Oh, sorry, Bella. Um: yeah. I just wanted to know that I've had conversations about the loop like agenda items which are twenty, nine, and thirty. But the proponent of those motions.

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jim murez: Okay,

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jim murez: Thank you. Um. Anybody else

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jim murez: Any other ex-parte communications.

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jim murez: Okay.

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jim murez: Everybody's had a hand a chance to describe them.

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jim murez: Let's move on. I'll save that away. Um vicki. Some other people came in. Who were they? Uh, Captain? And did any other Board members come in? No, I've let him in.

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melissadiner: I'm here, Melissa.

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jim murez: Okay, Thank you, Melissa. And who else?

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Sama? This is Sima I'm. Here to.

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jim murez: Does that Seema? Is that what you said?

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Sima: Yes,

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jim murez: okay, Great. Thank you. You guys are both checked in now. Thank you.

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jim murez: Um. Okay. Let's move on to public safety.

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jim murez: Um, Seeing as how I can't see the list while i'm doing both. Um, Vicki, Do you want to tell me who is here from L. A. Pd. Or L. A. M. Brick and Mooney? Compare us in your laid out.

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jim murez: Okay, Great Um.

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jim murez: Well, let's start with the captain. Go ahead, Captain Embrick, please.

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jim murez: Is is he uh promoted or un unmuted?

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CPT Steve Embrich: I'm the gym. Thank you. Fighting us as always. Anyway, I'm going to go briefly first, because she really has a meat of potato. So I just want to say hi to everybody, because I know It's been a couple of months since I've had time to log on to this, so I've missed all of you. So, anyway, one positive report.

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CPT Steve Embrich: Pacific area has experienced a violent crime. Reduction of twelve percent

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CPT Steve Embrich: is,

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CPT Steve Embrich: which is the the big reduction in the entire.

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CPT Steve Embrich: Our rapes are even with last year, and our robberies are down. Eight point. Five percent are activated us or down fourteen point five percent.

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CPT Steve Embrich: Ah, we're also believe. Okay, we're one point, seven percent down compared to the rest of last year. So, like I said, we are leading the entire city in violent crime reduction and in property crime. We're integrated Number two out of twenty, one geographic areas.

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CPT Steve Embrich: I see that as progress, but I know we still have a lot of work to do. So you know we're going to still keep our pencil sharp, and so continue work towards achieving more crime reduction.

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CPT Steve Embrich: Anyway, I did want to point out

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CPT Steve Embrich: that one of the things that we did work on since last time we met Whitman with all of you, which was a concern to a lot of the community,

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CPT Steve Embrich: was the Venice and Santa Monica border area,

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CPT Steve Embrich: where we kind of developed an encampment which included about fifteen to twenty persistent Ah campers out there, and it was a pretty servant, resent service resistant to me, because we were not only so Joseph Center, but also look at the People's concern which is the contracted service provider in the city of Santa Monica,

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CPT Steve Embrich: Anyway, in order to encourage people to service, accept services and to clean up that encampment. We've worked with our partners at sanitation. Reckon parks, clean harbors. We also got Santa Monica ped out there,

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CPT Steve Embrich: and as a result of that task force we only had to do one detention, one citation everybody else voluntarily provide, and they did. New story out of that was, We got five people to accept housing offered by St. Joseph's Center

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CPT Steve Embrich: since we've done that detail about two weeks ago. It looks like that border area has remained clear, and our officers will continue to pay attention to that.

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CPT Steve Embrich: So. Ah! The bad news is the summer loans that we get from throughout the city. The twenty officers that come from, you know four corners of Los Angeles will be returning to their home divisions next week, and we will have a reduced wintertime footprint.

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CPT Steve Embrich: Hopefully, it would reduce winter time a problem as well. So hopefully, you can maintain the same level of service we have been all summer.

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CPT Steve Embrich: Last thing I do want to mention is vehicles,

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CPT Steve Embrich: and that is what one area the entire city is struggling on, and I think i'd like to, you know, make a pitch to all of Venice, and I know It's kind of repetitive because citywide motor vehicle theft is up

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CPT Steve Embrich: fourteen percent

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CPT Steve Embrich: Pacific. It is up six percent. It's.

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CPT Steve Embrich: And in just narrowing down to Venice. So what is relevant to you guys is. There are two areas in which I think we can all work together on, and number one that is, vehicles with keys or key fobs or vehicles left running. That regularly accounts for thirty percent of the vehicles stolen in a Pacific area. So I think if you all try,

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CPT Steve Embrich: you know we. We even reminded each other, because sometimes when I go out to lunch i'll, i'll see like a gordash Driver Park, in front of a restaurant who meets car running, and venture to say, Hey, come on, please lock your vehicle. You make it too easy to steal your car, so you can share that with your neighbors I think we could go a long way.

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CPT Steve Embrich: And last is the electronic bicycles electronic by spills. And I think this is unique to Venice

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CPT Steve Embrich: out of the entire city, and that this accounts for nine percent of all of our stolen motor vehicles because electronic but

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CPT Steve Embrich: electronic bicycles count as motorized conveniences, so they count as a stolen vehicle. And that accounts from nine percent of all the stolen vehicles in the Pacific area, and I think it's mostly coming from Venice area. So if you guys would secure those, you know for many of you guys, it's just a bicycle.

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CPT Steve Embrich: But for other people it's It's you know the three thousand dollars bicycle is something that they can immediately turn into a hundred bucks or two hundred bucks, which which is a shame. So if you see your neighbors leaving their rosters open, that's a lot of time where they're taking from, or if they're just

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CPT Steve Embrich: lead against businesses outside. Anyway, that's the end of my report. I'm gonna say the rest of the time for Mooney. Thank you. Everybody Nice to meet you again.

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jim murez: Thank you very much,

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jim murez: Monique. You want to carry on from from from where the captain is left off.

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SLO Monique Contreras: Yes, thank you, Jim. I just have a couple of things I wanted to add um. So yesterday I attended a training with the city attorney's office. Um! And so I received policy on the enforcement of ah bicycle chopped shops. So that is something that officers now can enforce in the field. Um, of course there's a couple of elements that need to be followed, but I think that's going to be a positive for a lot of those um piles of bicycles that are out there in the encampments.

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SLO Monique Contreras: Um! We also touched on the forty one eighteen um, which is having a cabinet um within, you know, five hundred and eight of a school. Um. Although we receive the training, the policy is still not out yet. So that's something that we're waiting for, and as soon as um lapd receives it. Um! We'll officers will be able to enforce

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SLO Monique Contreras: um, and then I also wanted to let everybody know that the parking lot on Rose in Maine. Um is going to be closed. Um, from Wednesday nine hundred and twenty one to nine hundred and twenty-three. Ah! Dot is going to be restriping the lot. Um! And it looks like they're going to be also fixing the um

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SLO Monique Contreras: the pay machine.

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SLO Monique Contreras: Ah, I also got information about the lights being out on Washington here, so it may be dark. Um! They have only seven lights working, and it's going to take them about two months um to completely restore all the lighting. Ah, because they're waiting for a lot of the ah parts to be shipped

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SLO Monique Contreras: uh, and then um! I just recently also had a meeting with Circle Um, just kind of um learning how to uh better collaborate and work together. So if anybody has any issues or um concerns or positive remarks about the program, you know, please reach out to me as well. Um, just kind of working with them to better our partnership, and that's pretty much it.

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jim murez: Thank you, Monique. I appreciate you very much. Watch for my text message. You.

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SLO Monique Contreras: Okay?

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jim murez: Um, Okay, let's move along. Um, I think the next report that I would like to do. We have government reports. Um. And while we're on city people reporting. Reckon Parks was invited. Um, Vicki, if you could look and see if Sonia is in the audience, I don't know if she was going to be able to make it or not.

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jim murez: If she is, we'll give her a chance to see her. Okay, Okay, okay, Do we have a deputy here from Mike Bonnan's office. We don't even know who that would be. It's Lily and I did emailing

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jim murez: and it him. But I don't see him in attendance.

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jim murez: Okay, I believe, Janet. I saw Janet Turner from from Tedley's office on her. We promote her.

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jim murez: as soon as she's promoted. Let's give her the opportunity to speak,

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jim murez: Shannon, as soon as you're online.

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Janet Turner: Good evening, everyone. Ah, I hope everyone is doing well. I send best wishes from Congressman Tedlu. Ah! And so Ah, just a couple of ah interesting things.

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Janet Turner: If you know any high school students who are really technically savvy and would like to compete in the Congressional app challenge. The deadline for submissions is November. First

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Janet Turner: you can get more information at Loo House, Gov. Um. And also, if you know any high schoolers who are thinking of applying to the Military Academy. They always have to have a recommendation from a member of Congress,

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Janet Turner: and ah! Applications for that are due October fourteenth by five Pm. Again. Just go to our website, Lewis Gov. And for more information if they're interested.

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Janet Turner: So a little good news. Santa Monica, a big blue bus received a three hundred and thirty thousand dollars Federal grant to be able to expand its services,

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Janet Turner: and I think I mentioned to you last time, of course, that the Inflation Reduction Act was signed just two points about things that are practical for people,

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Janet Turner: and that is um. In January, the twentieth twenty three. You can get a three thousand five hundred dollars tax credit. If you buy an American-made electric car and there are a list of those that you can easily get. You can just Google it. And also, if you're considering solar

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Janet Turner: good news, the Solar tax credit is going to continue, and even better starting in January it goes back to thirty percent, and it stays at thirty percent until two thousand and thirty two, so it'll be a really good time to go, Solar, if you're interested

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Janet Turner: a little bit on a sadder note. This communities of Pacific Palace age Brentwood and Westwood have been hit by campaigns of anti-semitic flyers.

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Janet Turner: This was very disturbing to the Congressman, and he wrote to Fbi Director Ray, asking that he launched a formal investigation into the matter, because there's been other similar incidents in other cities in California thirty three,

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Janet Turner: and um. Congressman says that he's deeply concerned because these acts continue to happen without any appropriate consequences, and he is concerned, this might lead to violence. And so

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Janet Turner: we're waiting word. Ah! On any response from the Fbi on that um. Congress is back in session. Your Congressman is very busy. Ah, we're back in the office. Always feel free to reach out to me if i'd be of any assistance, and i'll have a good evening. Thanks So much for letting me give a report.

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jim murez: Thank you, Jen. It's always a pleasure.

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jim murez: Okay, let's move along. Vicki. Do you see any of the other. I didn't see. I don't even see Freddy here tonight,

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Freddy, if you're here, raise your hand. I think i'm panelists with you.

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jim murez: Oh, all right. Great! That's why I didn't see you in the attendees. You want to go ahead and give a report.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Yes, most definitely. All right, So i'm gonna make it quick and you can. You keep it under twenty five minutes?

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): All right. Good. I emailed the whole board my report just in case as well as the copy of the September Monthly profile for your review.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Okay, Um. Just to iterate the paragraph. Any Board Member Committee, member, including stakeholder Committee members who may have a conflict of interest and has not consulted with the office of the city attorney, should move to have the matter tabled until the next meeting, so that the Board member has an opportunity to consult with the city attorney's office. If the Board declines to table a matter, the Board Member may want to consider recusal prior to the matter being discussed. If choosing to recuse the Board Member should State for the record

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): reasons for the recusal, and that they will be leaving the meeting during the discussion and voting, because recusal may not always be sufficient. Tabling of the matter at issue is always preferred to allow time for the board member to consult with the city attorney's office. Also

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): want to bring up civic you. One is this October. If you could

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): that on your agenda, a special meeting before the end of this week, or if you can appoint Ah, at least three members Board members to attend this. Ah! Most interesting workshop, partnered by Cal. State, L. A. Patron Institute of Public Affairs.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): They'll go over Local Government Um. Power Structure of City of L. A. The guts of city government, equity and resources and services, as well as empowerment towards inclusion.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Um, I In my email it gives the name, the link to submit the names. One support action has been done for at least three board members who, you think, can attend the three October dates, October six, thirteenth and twenty seventh at six, thirty P. M. For these courses that will once they complete it. We'll get a certificate of completion by the Pepperon Institute

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): um Also,

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): this Saturday is the Congress of neighborhoods from eight to four o'clock.

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Um! If you sign up, you can register and come to this virtual um event that will have over thirty workshops, and opening and closing session guest speakers, exhibitors, a networking room, and more. If you can just go to neighborhood Congress. Ah L. A. To register for this Saturday's Congress of neighborhoods,

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): The meetings and workshops will be recorded. So if you're unable to make it um due to Prior. Ah, um commitments! They'll be on their website for further review, and and the like

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): for Board Members want to be a funding officer. Please note that the city clerk has some upcoming trainings. I've provided dates as well as the link to enter into those trainings, and last them not least,

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): if you go to our website on your workshops and info information sessions. You can see our past recordings for our four module trainings, the first three modules which will allow for individuals wanting board members for board members who want to refresh their knowledge of of Ah, certain aspects of being a board member, and being part of the city of La I would highly recommend viewing all those three, as well as there is a brown act,

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Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): a workshop, and a training with regards to candidate Forums and Cis's other than that that wraps up my whole presentation.

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jim murez: Thank you, Freddie, appreciate it as always,

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Vicki Halliday: Jim. I don't see anyone else. I don't see Zach.

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jim murez: And then, Yeah, I I look. I look through the list, too. If anybody is here from a government's office, raise your hand now or Ah Oh, I see Eric Bruins, but he's here, I think, believe, for the Venice Boulevard motion

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jim murez: in Yeah. So should we ask him if he's here to speak for the Councilman, or just for that particular item.

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Vicki Halliday: I'll promote it.

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jim murez: Eric, did you hear the question?

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Eric Bruins (CD11): I I did. Uh thank you. Um, I I don't have a general update for our office, but I I will participate in the later on the Venezuela item, and I'm. Also available to answer questions on the Rose Avenue.

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jim murez: Okay, Thank you very much.

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jim murez: So you'll just hang out In the meantime. Great,

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jim murez: I don't see any more. Hands up. Okay, let's move on.

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jim murez: Um committee chairs. Let's give some reports. Um budget and finance. Jay. Do you want to give a quick verbal report. We didn't get a written one in advance, so it's not

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jim murez: treasurer's items down below. So if you just want to, if there's anything you want to touch on real Briefly, that not items on the agenda. That would be great.

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jim murez: okay, Mikkel. How about you?

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Jim Robb: Okay, Nothing in the land. Use. Ah, Deafels not here. Ocean for a walk, Jim, do you have anything you want to update us on? We're having a meeting. Ah! The last Monday of the month, where we, on our agenda was talking about the lights of the Venice beer, which it looks like everybody's already talking about

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Jim Robb: um. Also, we were going to have a meeting about the Paddle Ball versus Pickle Ball since I didn't go through the Ocean Front Walk committee, and it's on the ocean for a walk.

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Jim Robb: And then we're looking for other motions, talking about the easement lines in front of all the businesses on the ocean front, and where they're supposed to put all their marketing and and all that. So the next meeting for ocean front walk will be Monday. I believe it's twenty

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Jim Robb: interrupt The The committee reports for a second just to make something clear. Um zoom. Links have to be issued before the meetings are scheduled. It has to be done offline. I don't have the information right Now we've been having a lot of problems with people

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jim murez: scheduling meetings in advance and and not letting me know, not getting a zoom link at this point. We only have one zoom account. Um meetings have been missed, Meetings have been overlapped. We have multiple meetings at the same time. I can't commit at this point in time, Jim, to you that Monday night is available. I don't know if another committee meeting has already been planned.

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Jim Robb: Um, you need to check with me, and just make sure it gets posted seventy two hours in advance, and that's true, but it's a week. It's a week from now, and it's on the Bnc website that it's the last Monday of the month. So

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Jim Robb: i'm just trying to follow protocol and getting a meeting in the last Monday of the months.

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Jim Robb: Yeah, I don't. I don't know one way or another. Some people have created meetings a year in advance, and and for those people that do that we have to make sure that the the meetings are are, you know, properly scheduled. Um, let's move along

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jim murez: outreach. Do you have anything? Is seamless?

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Sima: I think Seymour's in a school meeting at this point She'll be back. I literally Hi. Sorry i'm back for three minutes to make a quick report. Um! Hi! Everybody! I just wanted to thank everybody for participating in the coastal cleanup that happened this weekend on Saturday.

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Sima: Two organizations he'll, including Heal, the bay picked up seventy seven.

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jim murez: We lost you.

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jim murez: You locked up. You froze, maybe Turn off your camera, Sima.

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jim murez: Okay? Well, let's move on,

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Sima: and fortunately we're kind of

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Sima: you're locking up a lot. If you want to turn off your camera you might be able to do the audio part.

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Sima: Is this better?

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jim murez: Yeah, Go ahead.

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Sima: We lost. We lost you at the point where you said you did a clean up, and you collected, and it dropped right. It dropped off at that point.

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Sima: Oh, thank you. Is this better?

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Sima: Yes, okay. I just wanted to thank our community for showing up on Saturday for the coast of May up day. It was a world clean of day and obviously national enough day. We we picked up over seventy seven pounds of debris in North Venice between two organizations, and we've been in the bay. So thank you for everybody that showed up

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Sima: um, and we are working on a whole wearing party. Unfortunately, we don't know whether we're going to be able to do it at the pier for obvious reasons. So just hold tight. We'll have more info. Thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you. Sima:

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jim murez: Okay, Um. Rules and selections. We don't have a chair there. We don't have anybody doing it. Bruno Arts.

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Bruno Hernandez: No, we don't have anything to we have month. Okay, Thank you. Um, Keith, Can we promote Keith?

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Keith Harrison: Yes, um. I represented a committee at the Iraq Safety Committee meeting. The group is developing some target areas and potential campaigns to recommend to the various neighborhood councils as far as outreach work in safety and emergency preparedness. Additionally, we are working on a series of outreach. Excuse me,

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Keith Harrison: stakeholder engagement meetings where we meet with the stakeholders in a open-air. Ah! More informal matter Ah! That is part of the reason why we're asking for ah money on the agenda, and we will be hopefully in October, doing one of our first of those meetings in Pennsylvania, and there will be ah refreshments, but they are donated

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Keith Harrison: or not. There is no request for Bnc. Money for that at all. We've already set up a donation for the ice cream social. So again that's what we're done so far,

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jim murez: Thank you, Keith, And for those of you that don't know, Keith referenced something called Rack.

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jim murez: That's ah, that stands for the West. L. A. Regional alliance of neighborhood councils. Um! It's a group of fourteen councils, I believe Venice is one of them. It's all of the West Side Neighborhood Council, so it's great to have Keith there representing us with the emergency preparedness for within all fourteen of the councils.

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jim murez: Uh! I try to promote Frank because I see him here, but he's not answered. Um, we have a meeting on Tuesday, if uh we're Stan Muhammad is actually going to talk about the helper foundation and the gang intervention things that are going on right now. So it's. It's a very timely uh Round Table discussion, and we invite you to

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jim murez: ask their questions of me. Great? Thank you very much

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robertthibodeau: what was not exactly a ceremony in this time of Covid, but

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robertthibodeau: we handed out an award or a certificate of appreciation to the Venice yard of street services off Avid Kinney Robert, let me interrupt you, Vicki. What's the gentleman's name, Robert,

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robertthibodeau: if he's on which I have not looked, although I did just email him. His name is Timothy Butcher, is he? Here? Let's Let's Yeah. Can we promote him? Let's give him a big round of applause. That's great.

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robertthibodeau: You want to finish, Robert, he he's being promoted. Well, we we we had voted on this earlier. They're responsible for keeping the streets of Venice clean. I feel like they've gone above and beyond. In these tough times of both budget cuts which we talked to him about, and

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robertthibodeau: on top of the budget cuts kind of the social, whatever situations we've got going on. And then Kovat, on top of that.

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robertthibodeau: These guys have have worked tirelessly to keep Venice clean, and keep the debris off the streets and keep the streets in good repair. And so we gave them a certificate of appreciation last week that had been voted on by the Bnc.

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robertthibodeau: And I believe he's here with us today, and I just wanted to say Thank you from our committee.

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robertthibodeau: Thank you. Thank you. Ah, Timothy, you want to say any few words I don't want to put you on the spot. You may not be a public speaking type we would love, we would love to hear. Ah, anything you have to say, and and we also want to invite you to our meetings regularly anytime you want to come.

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Timothy Butcher: Yeah, actually, i'm not sure. Are you hearing me or seeing?

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Timothy Butcher: And yes, we can hear you and see you. Thank you. Okay, Very good. Yes, on on behalf of my crew. I really want to thank you for this recognition. Usually when we get commentary it's less than positive.

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Timothy Butcher: I have a good group of people uh working. We,

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Timothy Butcher: unfortunately can't always do everything that we would like to do.

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Timothy Butcher: recently since the pandemic at the beginning of the pandemic we had fifteen employees in the yard.

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Timothy Butcher: We now have five.

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Timothy Butcher: Wow! And so it's. Yeah. And we had There's two divisions in the in the yard. There's a maintenance division and a cleaning division. Ah! And at the beginning of the pandemic we had two supervisors. Ah, I am now the only supervisor in your son covering I'm. Wearing both hands. But we really really appreciate

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Timothy Butcher: the recognition we all love Venice. For the most part we we all have days. We

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Timothy Butcher: please feel free. If If you have issues or questions reach out to us, we can't always take care of everything, but

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Timothy Butcher: we're willing to give it a shot and try and get it. Get it done as best we can, I said. We all we all love working in Venice.

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jim murez: Thank you. Thank you.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah, let's have a big round of applause. Maybe we can take their mute buttons off the we can do.

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robertthibodeau: You had a big round of applause here. Thank you for what you do. Yeah.

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Timothy Butcher: that. That's a big budget. Item: Yeah, it's way above my pig. But from my understandings you have a foreseeable future. That's It's going to be for a while.

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jim murez: Okay. Thank you very much. And thank you for taking your time to to attend tonight. We really do appreciate it and all the work you guys do for us. It's great.

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robertthibodeau: Yeah,

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robertthibodeau: Okay, Robert, Did you have anything else you wanted to? We got two agenda items up later tonight. But there's no no need to drag this on. But

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robertthibodeau: okay, talk about them when we talk about them. Right?

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jim murez: Very good. Harbour committee.

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jim murez: I do believe Sarah was in the audience earlier.

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jim murez: Do you see her. Here, Vicki,

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jim murez: let me see here, Arrow Walters,

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jim murez: I just saw her somewhere. She just jumped around. Pare her hands up.

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jim murez: Let's give her a chance to speak,

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jim murez: sir. I've tried to promote you. There you go,

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jim murez: Sarah. You got the floor upcoming stuff, not stuff in the past, not stuff on the agenda,

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jim murez: Sarah, you There,

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jim murez: there we go on mute. Hi, folks, Thank you. Um, Venice Harvard Committee has been working hard, as you guys. Probably all know we work on the trees pretty much every Saturday, and we wanted to announce to folks while we do have a drought on It's important to continue watering retreat,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and the city has stated that policy that trees should continue to be water.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The other thing that we would like to ask books not to do is Don't trim your trees during the summer.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Uh, wait until the winter. That's the optimal time

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: That's it, and later on i'll see you join the agenda.

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jim murez: Okay, Thank you. Thank you for keeping it brief. Is anybody here from the discussion Forum, either Joe Murphy or Paul and Nancy Joe. I didn't see Paul, either.

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jim murez: preserving public spaces. I don't think Pepsi Robin is Robin here. I didn't see her. Okay, Don't: Okay, Negative and social justice and equity. Kai, Did you have a report?

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Chie: I do, I've been away this summer, So we Haven't had a meeting, unfortunately, and just tied up with a lot of family things. But I did want to say along the lines of social justice inequity that I wanted to give a personal Thank you to all the members. I saw emails when I was traveling about again. You know just distasteful comments and behavior of the public.

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Chie: And personally, Mike Bravo and Sola, Dad and a few of you others who wrote emails just in support of

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Chie: stopping, you know, just distasteful, distasteful, disrespectful behavior like that. So we will be having another meeting. But I also personally want to say thank you to the committee who have stood up for you know, people's respectful behavior and stood up against Crap.

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jim murez: Thank you. And i'll be looking forward to requesting that zoom meeting any day. Now.

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jim murez: President's report. So let me

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jim murez: let me just say that that we have a vacancy

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jim murez: um on the Vnc. Ah. Board, and the applications will be open as of now. They're available on the rules web page. The link is on the agenda. There. Um! I need to see the I believe it states who the the applications have to be sent to, but we need to have them back prior to the tenth. Excuse me. The twelfth of October.

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jim murez: Also we're looking for people who want to help

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jim murez: on the election process for the twenty twenty-three, twenty, twenty, four term um on the Dnc board. We're going to be having elections in March and starting in November. We're going to be having applications for people who want to apply to be on the board.

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jim murez: Okay, Having said that, let's go on to public comment.

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jim murez: And um, if you can handle that, I will work the clock. Okay, and and i'll just let you call people as you see them listed. Let's close the the public comment after the first speaker. Let's close the list after the first speaker finishes speaking,

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jim murez: unmute them. Yeah,

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jim murez: John and Michelle. Hell, you need to unmute yourself.

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John and Michele Hales: Done deal.

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John and Michele Hales: Okay, Go ahead. Thank you. I was unmuted before somebody muted me again um anyways, just quickly, because at time flies. I wanted to share a special experience with you with us now, looking for in-person meetings, et cetera.

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John and Michele Hales: Um! There has been great discussions about hybrid ah meetings, those with zoom and people in person. My recommendation based on personal experience. This past week we had a major event that supposedly was going to go hybrid. It was a miserable failure.

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John and Michele Hales: They had no vocal recording on it,

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John and Michele Hales: and when there's no vocal recording what you're recording is nothing, so I highly recommend. If you're going to consider a hybrid, you have somebody very sophisticated that knows what they're doing when it comes to that. Thank you very much. It was a Town Hall meeting about Home Depot. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Um, i'm Looking here. We will close public comment after Mark Tyson,

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Vicki Halliday: and next up is Helen Fallon. Helen. Go ahead.

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Helen Fallon: Yeah, two things. Um, It came up that uh about scheduling meetings, and we have standing committees that do not have regularly scheduled meetings, and that includes both outreach and the Budget Committee. That's It's ridiculous because people find out about these meetings at the last minute

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Helen Fallon: we really want to public participation. They should be scheduled well in advance. There should be definite, regularly scheduled meetings. This will solve Jim's problem

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Helen Fallon: of when they have the zoom thing. And the other comment is, Jim, the cusal means you leave the meeting doesn't mean you get to come back as an individual as a public participant or a board member. You recuse. You're out of the meeting. You're not participating at all.

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Helen Fallon: So if Freddie Didn't make that clear. I'm going to make it clear.

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Helen Fallon: Gave Kai some really poor advice.

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Helen Fallon: Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Ah, thank you, Helen. Ah! Next up Kalani Kalani. Go ahead.

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): Hello, Kamali Whittington here active West Side stakeholder. I do agree. We do need a hybrid model, especially considering most neighborhood councils do not attract even one percent stakeholder participation that being said, I recently read an article that New York City is banning e bites from their public housing garages because lower-cost e bikes have a propensity to catch fire.

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): Um e bikes are flooding our bike paths, our roadways, our sidewalks, and our downtown La City council has done nothing to develop comprehensive policies to regulate

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): e bikes force, and an e bike goes about thirty miles per hour. They're just as dangerous as the motorcycle, and they should be licensed, registered, and forced to carry insurance.

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): If one of them hits you or your car, it will cause serious damage not to mention. They fill our landfills. Thank you, Thank you, Gulani. Ah, Lisa Redmond, go ahead.

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Lisa Redmond: Um. I'm going to reiterate what? Ah Helen said about recusals. Um! She said it well enough. I don't need to go any further. I'm also going to remind you that you cannot automatically close general public comment. As long as people keep listening,

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Lisa Redmond: signing up and raising their hands. You have to go the full twenty minutes that's listed in the agenda.

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Lisa Redmond: You just don't automatically get to close it. And then finally I'm going to reject the idea of the Social Justice and Equity Committee continuing to meet because your ninety days was up two days ago.

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Lisa Redmond: It doesn't matter that ty was traveling during the summer. The bylaws clearly state that unless a meeting happens in ninety days the committee is debunked and it is debunked. You can check the calendar. It's been more than ninety days since the last meeting. That committee is no more, and should not be even listed on the agenda.

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Lisa Redmond: Thank you,

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Lisa. Um. Next up, Nick. Go ahead, please.

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Erica Moore: Hi, there! Um! I also wanted to echo something about in-person meetings. A hybrid meetings can work. I actually have been to some not for neighborhood council, but in a different um genre, and if you do have someone who's manning the computer properly,

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Erica Moore: it can work. I'm very curious when we're going to get back to in-person meetings, and if we're going to go back to the seven Pm. Time, which is much more workable, I think, for a lot of people. That's one of my main questions. My other question is about outreach. Um! What are some other options for us to have outreach to our community? The farmers market for several hours on a Friday is not enough of an outreach vehicle for us. We need to have outreach that's accessible

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Erica Moore: that's consistent, and that is present in our Venice community. So more stakeholders can participate and know how to participate. And I also wanted to thank you guys, all for your service, and I, too, would like to know which openings are available. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Erica. Um. Next up mark. Go ahead, please.

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Mark Chaisson: Hi! Um! My name's mark. I'm a West Side stakeholder, and I would just like to voice support of the um and reconfiguration of Venice as a Excuse me, mark. Yeah, I have to interrupt you. That's on the agenda. This is for items, not on the agenda.

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Mark Chaisson: Ah, apologies.

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Mark Chaisson: Okay, Never mind that.

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Mark Chaisson: Yeah. You have to wait until that item comes up. Do you have anything That was items, not on the agenda. No, Please go on to others.

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Mark Chaisson: Okay,

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Vicki Halliday: we have two more speakers. Bill. Please go ahead,

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jim murez: Bill. You have to unmute.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, um.

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Vicki Halliday: let me ask you one more time, and then we'll move on,

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Vicki Halliday: Bill.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, Yolanda. Why don't you go ahead, please?

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, Good evening. Um. Can you hear me?

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jim murez: Yes,

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Yolanda Gonzalez: okay. Um, I'd like to see how we can really get a committee going to work on these scooters, And because they're being abandoned. I've had three abandoned here in my alley for the last two weeks. They're not picking them up, and also

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Yolanda Gonzalez: with the transportation Ah, committee. We need to start setting some regulations on these scooters, and how they mobilize within our community because it's becoming even more dangerous. They don't. They go against the traffic they go against

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Yolanda Gonzalez: really problem, so like to emphasize that

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Yolanda Gonzalez: I I would like to get that a committee going. But you know i'm getting tired. I'm really tired, and but i'd like to put my emphasis on something that we really need in this community. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Yolanda.

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Vicki Halliday: That's it, Jim.

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jim murez: Okay, no more hands. Here, let's close public comment. Public comment is closed.

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jim murez: Oh, two more people raised their hands. I wonder where they came from

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Vicki Halliday: with it,

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jim murez: Peter and Jim Robb.

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jim murez: Why, your models may want back in. I keep. Okay,

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jim murez: Yeah. Somebody's flashing him. He's got his hand up. There are no more people in the audience with their hands up.

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jim murez: Okay, Okay,

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jim murez: Um.

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jim murez: Let me just see what's going on here.

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Vicki Halliday: But who is Peter? Let me ask.

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jim murez: Okay, i'm on. Jim. I'm gonna lower your um, Peter, I would you like to speak? I see your hand going up and down.

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Peter: You hear me? Yes, yes,

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Peter: okay. This is Peter Murray's at the Bennis Pierre Project. Hello, everybody in Venice! How are we tonight? I am the

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Peter: getting on the but I mean getting on here to announce that on October thirty first Venice pair project is stepping over to the Venice State board part, and going to have what's called a State and scare,

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Peter: and it's going to be from two Pm. To six Pm. On October Thirty first prizes are going to be given away, and we're going to have skate competition. We're going to have a costume

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Peter: prizes for the best costume, and i'm making up the flyer now, so you'll look out for it.

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Peter: Thank you, Peter. Can you make sure that you get that over to Sima so she can get it posted on her website? Yeah, you bet I just got all the permits and everything in the Okay. So I officially am having ah an event on October thirty first.

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jim murez: Okay, i'm. Not sure if it's your event. I'm not sure we can post it or not. But let's see if I can do that out.

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Peter: No problem.

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jim murez: Thank you very much.

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jim murez: Um.

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jim murez: Okay. So I think now we can close public comment and move on.

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jim murez: Um!

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jim murez: He just registered the time. So we know how long we spent on that.

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CJ Cole: Let's move on um approval of prior board minutes. Could somebody make the motion that we accept the minutes?

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Alley Bean: I'll I'll accept it. I'll second it.

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CJ Cole: Thank you. Ali:

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jim murez: Yeah, it always makes it easier if I can hear the name

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jim murez: to find Ali. We're all in the list. Why aren't these alphabetical? There we go.

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jim murez: Okay. Do we have any public comment on the item.

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jim murez: Don't see any Jim? Okay, any committee comment,

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jim murez: seeing none. Does anybody want to abstain or vote in opposition to vote a no vote on this. If not, I will just check everybody off. Yes, okay. So we'll just assume that everybody

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jim murez: is agreeing with. Yes,

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jim murez: very good. Carry one thousand six hundred and zero

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jim murez: um treasurer's report.

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jim murez: Now, why does it say? Oh, that was a mistake in August. No new business.

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jim murez: Okay. So now we have a Murray report for the month of June.

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jim murez: Um! Would somebody like to make a motion?

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Alley Bean: I'll make a motion alley.

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jim murez: Thank you. Uh Vicki will second Thank you. Vicki

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jim murez: um! It looks like a hand went up.

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jim murez: We have any public comment, Lisa Redmond and Helen Lisa. Let's see Here,

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Vicki Halliday: there you go go ahead, Lisa.

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Lisa Redmond: Ah, I just want to point out that I feel it's terribly wrong that the Venice Neighborhood Council is paying five hundred dollars for advertising for a candidate for that didn't exist. But

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Lisa Redmond: the reason that that advertising was spent or was was for the Canada farm, but it was spent ahead of the event Request going in to the city clerk, and then the city clerk even eventually

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Lisa Redmond: denied the request. So it's wrong that the money was spent before that happened, and even more so that it was did not. The request was denied. And then, now we've spent five hundred dollars that is, just wasted money, and was done illegally or wrong, and incorrectly, according to funding guidelines.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Um, Helen, go ahead.

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Helen Fallon: Um! Based on remarks that were made last month about the Mers and about the ending June balance. I believe that stakeholders

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Helen Fallon: to our owed an explanation of why we ended up with an ending balance of well, over twenty one thousand, of which we're only able to carry over ten thousand.

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Helen Fallon: And ah! I think that stakeholders are entitled to know exactly what's going on, because we were told there were all sorts of things going on behind the scenes that we didn't know about. So let's have some transparency, and let's have Ah! Our reports on our mers. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Ah, Kalani, why don't you go ahead?

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): My comment is more about how records are being kept, not just with regard to the budgets. I've noticed that Ah Bunk has really ah made it easier for Neighborhood Council not to keep accurate detailed meeting minutes,

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Ivan: that creates a lack of transparency in real and reading over last much

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): meeting minutes. Many of the comments, like the comments that are being made now regarding the budget. Individuals should be listed, their comments should be listed with their names, so that future neighborhood councils will be able to see how the community protested and voiced their remarks about how the taxpayer monies are being spent and

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): and tracked. Thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you, Columbia. That was the last hand up. Jim. Okay,

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jim murez: Do we have any board comment. We don't have to respond to the

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jim murez: comments that were made in public comment, but I will say that the same comments that were brought up this evening. Here were brought up at the Budget meeting, and there is a streaming video that's available on the Budget's website,

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jim murez: along with a complete transcription of the file for anybody that wants to understand what the um issues of the previous reports were. All of that is available for anybody that wants to view it. Um, Having said that, do we have any other committee

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jim murez: member report? Yeah, Jim Rob, you want to go ahead.

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Ivan: Yeah, I wanted to reply to you, and if she wants to email me and let me know what scooters are there I can, Jim. Jim, Let's not. That's not on the myrrh report. We're talking about them in a report now.

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Ivan: The monthly, the expenditure report, Jim,

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jim murez: Did you have something you wanted to say about the monthly expenditure report

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Ivan: gymnastics.

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Ivan: Thank you, Ivan. What did you want to get?

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Ivan: You can combine the June, July and August Is one motion. Thank you, Ivan.

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jim murez: Okay. Did we have any other, any other comments.

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Vicki Halliday: I don't see any jump.

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jim murez: Okay, I don't either.

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jim murez: Let's go ahead and take a vote on the June report. I'm going to vote. Yes. Does anybody want to vote? No, or abstain?

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Jim Robb: No, no, Jim, Rob.

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jim murez: Okay, anybody else.

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robertthibodeau: Okay. So that financial matters you had to do. You're probably right. Let's let's do a roll call. Okay, Melissa, How do you vote,

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jim murez: Melissa? Yes,

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jim murez: thank you.

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jim murez: Bruno,

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jim murez: I can come back. Sima.

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jim murez: I'll come back. Nico.

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Nico Ruderman: Yes.

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01:08:46.630 --> 01:08:49.859
Alley Bean: Chimra voted alley. Yeah.

478
01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:52.819
jim murez: Kai. Yes,

479
01:08:54.229 --> 01:08:56.800
jim murez: miss that. Yes, Mike.

480
01:08:57.130 --> 01:08:58.750
Mike Bravo: Ah, yes,

481
01:08:59.569 --> 01:09:00.789
jim murez: solid. Add

482
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:01.859
Soledad Ursua: Yes.

483
01:09:02.300 --> 01:09:04.540
CJ Cole: Cj: Yes,

484
01:09:05.370 --> 01:09:06.510
jim murez: Robert.

485
01:09:06.540 --> 01:09:07.779
robertthibodeau: Yes.

486
01:09:07.830 --> 01:09:08.899
jim murez: Clark.

487
01:09:12.069 --> 01:09:16.869
Clark Brown: Yeah. Oh, yes, I'm: Sorry. Okay, Michelle. Yes,

488
01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:19.969
jim murez: um, Bruno, Are you back?

489
01:09:21.069 --> 01:09:25.089
Bruno Hernandez: See? My, Are you? Yeah, yes, i'm back. Sorry I was having all kinds of problems

490
01:09:25.100 --> 01:09:27.889
jim murez: That that's all right. How do you vote? Yes or no?

491
01:09:27.899 --> 01:09:28.590
Bruno Hernandez: Yes.

492
01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:35.039
jim murez: Okay. Some sugars votes. Yes. Oh, Jason, you're here. Hold on! Let me check you in.

493
01:09:39.569 --> 01:09:43.949
jim murez: I needed to know you were here before I could let you vote.

494
01:09:43.960 --> 01:09:48.069
Jason Sugars: Uh, there's going to be a panelist back at six hundred and seven or something like that.

495
01:09:48.080 --> 01:09:48.790
jim murez: Okay?

496
01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:52.640
jim murez: Well, yeah, that that shows up in the uh,

497
01:09:52.890 --> 01:09:55.089
jim murez: in the what do you call it? But not for voting.

498
01:09:55.100 --> 01:09:56.989
jim murez: Okay, How are you, Buddy? Yes,

499
01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:57.889
Jason Sugars: yes, sir.

500
01:09:57.900 --> 01:10:02.880
jim murez: Okay, Thank you. And welcome this evening.

501
01:10:02.990 --> 01:10:11.189
jim murez: Okay, I think that's everyone. Sima: Last Chance. Okay. So it's fifteen. Yes, one no zero abstentions.

502
01:10:11.410 --> 01:10:25.489
jay : Um. Now let's take the July report to if I could just get back to July and August. Okay, sure. Let's move. Let's Let's take both July and August together. Um, who's going to make that motion?

503
01:10:25.500 --> 01:10:27.159
Alley Bean: I'll make it alley.

504
01:10:27.530 --> 01:10:32.320
jay : Thank you, Ali. Thank you, Jay.

505
01:10:33.460 --> 01:10:43.249
jim murez: Let me remind everybody that these are the reports that the city publishes, and they're based on the expenses that were previously approved by the board. So all we're doing is looking at

506
01:10:44.490 --> 01:10:49.489
jim murez: past history, anyway. Do we have any public comment on these reports.

507
01:10:49.620 --> 01:10:50.769
Vicki Halliday: Now,

508
01:10:52.140 --> 01:10:57.610
jim murez: okay, let's take a vote. I will vote. Yes,

509
01:10:58.310 --> 01:11:04.329
jim murez: Melissa. Helen Hand was a Oh, she my! It went up items.

510
01:11:05.450 --> 01:11:12.850
jim murez: Yeah, Helen Tang and just went up. Do you want to let me go ahead? Go ahead, Helen. Yeah, let's let Helen have her. Say,

511
01:11:12.990 --> 01:11:17.800
Helen Fallon: I actually I had my hand up, and then I put it down because you cut off the public comment so quickly.

512
01:11:17.810 --> 01:11:27.500
Helen Fallon: I just wanted to point out you took a voice about earlier, and you don't know who was here or not, since some of those people were absent during this voicemail. You just did. I think you need to redo it.

513
01:11:28.670 --> 01:11:29.800
Yeah,

514
01:11:30.020 --> 01:11:34.229
jim murez: okay, Thank you, Ellen. Uh: Erica Moore. Oh, yeah,

515
01:11:36.940 --> 01:11:54.699
Erica Moore: hi! My comment was kind of similar is what Helen said. Is that How are you monitoring what people are in and out of this meeting to vote, because it seems like you've got some people that they might have their their quote unquote on the meeting, but they're not there, because when you're asking for them I don't know if they're even on the screen.

516
01:11:54.710 --> 01:12:05.840
Erica Moore: I mean what kind of accountability is that I I have concerns about that, because there is, there are rules about people being removed from their position.

517
01:12:05.850 --> 01:12:22.169
Erica Moore: Um, on the board. If they are not attending a certain amount of means If they've attended a certain, they have been absent for a certain amount of meetings. And how can we truly monitor that if people are not on screen, and if people are not accountable that way, I I don't know how you're able to monitor that.

518
01:12:22.180 --> 01:12:28.819
Erica Moore: So that's that's a question, and i'd like to know why our questions are never answered.

519
01:12:28.830 --> 01:12:30.750
Erica Moore: Thanks so much, you guys.

520
01:12:31.040 --> 01:12:32.730
Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Erica.

521
01:12:32.740 --> 01:12:34.950
Vicki Halliday: Um. Okay, that

522
01:12:34.970 --> 01:12:36.989
jim murez: any other hands No?

523
01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:39.830
jim murez: Okay. Uh Melissa. How do you vote?

524
01:12:42.240 --> 01:12:45.340
jim murez: Yes, thank you.

525
01:12:45.510 --> 01:12:46.989
jim murez: Ah, J. How do you vote?

526
01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:47.929
jay : Yes,

527
01:12:48.860 --> 01:12:49.790
jim murez: Picky.

528
01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:51.490
jim murez: Yes, Bruno.

529
01:12:51.500 --> 01:12:53.710
Bruno Hernandez: Yes, Sima

530
01:12:54.980 --> 01:12:56.200
jim murez: Nico.

531
01:12:56.620 --> 01:12:57.740
Nico Ruderman: Yes,

532
01:12:58.080 --> 01:13:00.609
Jim Robb: you, Jim Rob, i'll abstain.

533
01:13:02.820 --> 01:13:04.730
jim murez: Ah, Jason,

534
01:13:06.230 --> 01:13:07.840
Jason Sugars: I will vote. Yes,

535
01:13:08.510 --> 01:13:12.689
Alley Bean: Alley. Yes, Kai, yes,

536
01:13:12.820 --> 01:13:13.849
jim murez: Mike,

537
01:13:14.210 --> 01:13:15.720
Mike Bravo: I have stick to him.

538
01:13:16.450 --> 01:13:18.410
jim murez: I'm sorry you're saying abstain

539
01:13:20.400 --> 01:13:21.650
jim murez: solidar.

540
01:13:21.660 --> 01:13:22.700
Soledad Ursua: Yes,

541
01:13:22.850 --> 01:13:23.990
jim murez: Cj.

542
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:25.080
CJ Cole: Yes,

543
01:13:25.780 --> 01:13:28.000
robertthibodeau: Robert, Yes,

544
01:13:28.220 --> 01:13:29.190
jim murez: Clark,

545
01:13:29.200 --> 01:13:30.090
Clark Brown: Yes.

546
01:13:30.830 --> 01:13:32.340
jim murez: And Mikkel.

547
01:13:32.350 --> 01:13:33.630
Michael: Yes,

548
01:13:33.800 --> 01:13:37.579
jim murez: okay. Now, if everybody gives me one second to

549
01:13:38.320 --> 01:13:42.540
jim murez: do the same thing here, how can I see both of these Alley

550
01:13:43.360 --> 01:13:45.150
jim murez: and J.

551
01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:51.800
jim murez: And the vote

552
01:13:53.260 --> 01:13:55.679
jim murez: was

553
01:14:01.650 --> 01:14:04.889
jim murez: yes, abstain.

554
01:14:05.630 --> 01:14:07.190
jim murez: Yes,

555
01:14:07.200 --> 01:14:09.599
jim murez: yes, yes,

556
01:14:09.970 --> 01:14:13.889
jim murez: abstain. Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes,

557
01:14:13.900 --> 01:14:16.889
jim murez: okay. That look right. Sixteen of this should be the same.

558
01:14:16.900 --> 01:14:33.670
jim murez: Yeah, Jim, you may just want to take a quick, quick roll call. Vote on that one. We didn't. Just so. You don't have any issues, but completely at your discretion, like they said. You know the first budget Item: No, the first budget item. What was the first budget item? I think that was it.

559
01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:42.189
jay : Now for the record, Jim, you were going. You were going to do it by Non-voys vote, and then you decided to go ahead and do it by voice. Folks:

560
01:14:42.200 --> 01:14:45.989
jay : Yeah, that's what I thought. So. In fact, it was done by Boy spoke

561
01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:54.739
jim murez: good. Just wanted to make sure. Thank you both. Okay. Now we're on to Community

562
01:14:54.790 --> 01:15:14.299
jim murez: Resiliency Committee funding request. Um! The vote here has not yet been filled in. Let me go to the Budget Committee meeting. Oops, That's not the one. This is the one which was held on Monday. That would have been last night. Let's get the vote from that. We didn't have it prior

563
01:15:15.350 --> 01:15:17.070
jim murez: um

564
01:15:18.890 --> 01:15:24.580
jim murez: business cards Here it is. So it was five hundred, and one

565
01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:30.330
jim murez: was the tally on that. Let me fill that in over here, so we have it for the record.

566
01:15:30.400 --> 01:15:33.100
jim murez: Five zero one.

567
01:15:33.670 --> 01:15:40.349
jay : Would somebody please make the motion? No, because Keith said he didn't need it.

568
01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:48.130
jay : The The this in J I make the most excuse me, and this part here was revised

569
01:15:49.630 --> 01:15:53.459
jim murez: this part where that was taken out. So we're revising that also.

570
01:15:53.470 --> 01:15:55.419
jim murez: Uh Jay is making

571
01:15:56.090 --> 01:16:02.570
jim murez: motion. Thank you, Vicki. But but it's okay. Somebody want to second that

572
01:16:03.940 --> 01:16:07.679
CJ Cole: i'll. Second Cj: Thank you. Cj:

573
01:16:08.710 --> 01:16:12.210
jim murez: Um. Let's call for public comment.

574
01:16:12.330 --> 01:16:21.859
jim murez: The motion, by the way is approved up to five hundred dollars for the purchase of promotion for, and let me just read what the rest of it said. I think it was for

575
01:16:22.320 --> 01:16:27.090
jim murez: five hundred dollars, for it was an alternate motion,

576
01:16:27.450 --> 01:16:30.289
jim murez: and it was alternate motion. Here it is, right here,

577
01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:33.850
jim murez: and the vote was five zero. Zero.

578
01:16:34.280 --> 01:16:39.980
jim murez: Interesting. Okay, So let me change that, but yet one more time. So we get it right.

579
01:16:42.210 --> 01:16:47.760
jim murez: So the motion was revived. Actually, you know what? Maybe i'll do it this way. Let's just do it as an alternate motion.

580
01:16:47.970 --> 01:16:52.869
jim murez: So everybody knows that it was slightly changed from the original one. The

581
01:16:53.610 --> 01:16:55.599
jim murez: we'll keep the same maker

582
01:16:56.070 --> 01:16:59.439
jim murez: whoops. Now we have to do this

583
01:17:00.280 --> 01:17:01.559
jim murez: right

584
01:17:04.360 --> 01:17:10.889
Ivan: Doesn't want to do it. It's a bug in the program. I'll fix it one of them it wasn't an alternate motion. It was a reconsideration.

585
01:17:10.900 --> 01:17:16.389
jim murez: Oh, it was a reconsideration. Okay, so, at any rate, it reads slightly differently.

586
01:17:17.320 --> 01:17:20.080
jim murez: How should we make it read? This is how it reads,

587
01:17:20.370 --> 01:17:22.280
jim murez: and i'll strike this one.

588
01:17:24.050 --> 01:17:25.890
jim murez: It just changed the wording slightly.

589
01:17:25.900 --> 01:17:26.830
jim murez: Okay,

590
01:17:26.980 --> 01:17:29.190
jim murez: Um, Do we have any public comments?

591
01:17:29.200 --> 01:17:31.889
Vicki Halliday: Yes, Keith, he too much to speak.

592
01:17:31.900 --> 01:17:33.119
Vicki Halliday: Go ahead, Keith.

593
01:17:35.930 --> 01:17:42.200
Keith Harrison: Yes, I just wanted to clarify that What our requests turned into

594
01:17:42.560 --> 01:18:12.240
Keith Harrison: what our request turned into was a request for outreach materials so that we can continue our plan to do stakeholder engagement meetings. There was a problem with the refreshment issue. The refreshment issue was taken off the table. I'm donating the refreshments for our ice cream social. So we are still need the money to advertise. So I just want to clarify that

595
01:18:12.280 --> 01:18:18.380
Keith Harrison: That's what the committee voted on last last night. Thank you very much.

596
01:18:18.530 --> 01:18:20.710
Vicki Halliday: Uh, Helen, Go ahead.

597
01:18:22.500 --> 01:18:31.170
Helen Fallon: I just want to point out that if you want to stay within the rules. I believe, when you publish a motion, and then you change it completely.

598
01:18:31.240 --> 01:18:47.449
Helen Fallon: You need to amend it, perhaps, or put a substitute motion in not just cross something out and decide. Oh, well, they changed that, and they did it with differently. I mean. First, you need to have the correct language, Jim, so you might want to check with Freddie what the correct procedure is. But I don't think you're following

599
01:18:48.630 --> 01:18:52.599
Ivan: the correct procedure. Is it was a reconsideration

600
01:18:53.680 --> 01:19:01.739
Ivan: that motion was not. Let me stop the cross talk. Thank you

601
01:19:01.780 --> 01:19:11.560
Soledad Ursua: All right, Everybody point point of order. Here We're about to call on somebody for public comment who has is using, you know,

602
01:19:11.570 --> 01:19:29.649
Soledad Ursua: all kinds of you know things to disorder. We have done before the public who are Bill Puppet, who has used the em. We in the past. We have asked people that if you want to use public comments, we will not call on you unless you are moved with those, you know foul ah language

603
01:19:29.660 --> 01:19:42.309
Soledad Ursua: from your uh name. So we have done that in the past, and I would say that right now we need to do that again that you need to remove any kind of you know race-based threats, or whatever from your name, before we're calling you,

604
01:19:42.320 --> 01:19:51.389
Soledad Ursua: and we have done in the past. So I think we should do that again, because this is going to get out of control. If people continue to use the n word in their names.

605
01:19:52.820 --> 01:19:54.589
Chie: I'm in full agreement.

606
01:19:56.440 --> 01:20:00.720
Alley Bean: I'm going to move on, Erica. Would you like to go ahead?

607
01:20:01.890 --> 01:20:17.219
Erica Moore: Hi, there! I also agree with what they're saying? Nobody who's speaking Public comment needs to use a false name. They should use it. We're we excuse me, we're on the agenda. Okay. So here's the agenda That's where I go. I want to ask everybody who's on the board to support this motion.

608
01:20:17.230 --> 01:20:46.970
Erica Moore: I'm on the Resiliency Committee, and it's really important for us to get the word out to our stakeholders about emergency preparedness. And that's what we're trying to do. It's a difficult committee because a lot of people don't necessarily come and attend our meetings. We'd like to get a larger um participation from the the community, and this is something we all should be concerned about, because the arness is a tsunami zone. Earthquakes are a real thing here in California, and I think, if we all admit to ourselves the truth,

609
01:20:46.980 --> 01:20:55.670
Erica Moore: none of us are really seriously prepared. So please support this motion to help us to facilitate that. Thank you so much, you guys.

610
01:20:55.910 --> 01:21:00.040
Erica Moore: Thank you. Um go, puppet. Would you like to go ahead, please?

611
01:21:02.010 --> 01:21:05.580
Goat Puppet: Yes, and because you changed the government

612
01:21:09.240 --> 01:21:11.710
jim murez: we lost you there. Uh Way

613
01:21:15.330 --> 01:21:17.110
jim murez: Wayne. We can't hear you.

614
01:21:17.280 --> 01:21:19.519
jim murez: You're not muted on this end.

615
01:21:21.230 --> 01:21:22.280
Goat Puppet: Take it

616
01:21:22.290 --> 01:21:24.300
jim murez: there, you Oh, almost

617
01:21:31.300 --> 01:21:32.950
jim murez: okay. Um,

618
01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:37.570
jim murez: We can't hear you. So we're gonna move on.

619
01:21:38.170 --> 01:21:41.049
jim murez: Let's go ahead and lower the hands and

620
01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:43.389
Goat Puppet: stop the clock.

621
01:21:43.400 --> 01:21:45.959
Goat Puppet: Yes, human. Can you hear us?

622
01:21:46.050 --> 01:21:49.589
jim murez: Yeah, Now we can hear you. Okay, let me let me

623
01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:51.750
jim murez: let me restart the call.

624
01:21:52.590 --> 01:21:53.710
Goat Puppet: Wow!

625
01:21:55.240 --> 01:21:57.629
Goat Puppet: I want to take a little bit of time off here

626
01:21:57.750 --> 01:22:02.279
Goat Puppet: all right around thirty, five, thirty, five seconds to go.

627
01:22:03.160 --> 01:22:07.840
Goat Puppet: It's too bad that James changed the Government record.

628
01:22:08.020 --> 01:22:12.099
Goat Puppet: Yes, you should not be altering government records.

629
01:22:12.240 --> 01:22:18.590
Goat Puppet: Nobody gave you a consent to change my first, and i'm a protected name,

630
01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:20.640
Goat Puppet: and you know what that's going to mean.

631
01:22:21.330 --> 01:22:22.919
Goat Puppet: Oh, I know here,

632
01:22:23.720 --> 01:22:25.139
Goat Puppet: but I hear what I do.

633
01:22:25.980 --> 01:22:32.620
Goat Puppet: How about mash pads for gifts? Everybody needs one of those

634
01:22:33.420 --> 01:22:34.650
Goat Puppet: you see.

635
01:22:34.690 --> 01:22:43.800
Goat Puppet: I'm the only one that comes up with a good idea here tonight. Okay. But we'll We'll hear from you again later. Thank you.

636
01:22:44.580 --> 01:22:49.989
Goat Puppet: Okay, Do we have any more hands up, and I don't see any. They change my pretty name.

637
01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:56.379
jim murez: Okay, I'm gonna. If If you continue to interrupt the meeting, i'm going to remove you. Is that perfectly clear.

638
01:22:58.990 --> 01:23:03.609
jim murez: Now let's move on. Do we have any

639
01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:11.400
jim murez: board comment on board approving of up to five hundred dollars for emergency Preparedness outreach

640
01:23:11.800 --> 01:23:14.679
jim murez: You do raise your hand, please.

641
01:23:15.100 --> 01:23:17.409
jim murez: If not, let's take a vote.

642
01:23:18.750 --> 01:23:20.829
jim murez: I'm going to vote. Yes,

643
01:23:22.290 --> 01:23:23.710
jim murez: um

644
01:23:23.830 --> 01:23:25.590
jim murez: Melissa, How do you vote,

645
01:23:28.910 --> 01:23:32.860
jay : Melissa? Thank you. Jay. Yes,

646
01:23:33.260 --> 01:23:35.029
Vicki Halliday: Vicki. Yes,

647
01:23:35.740 --> 01:23:36.590
jim murez: Bruno.

648
01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:38.590
Bruno Hernandez: Yes, Sima

649
01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:42.099
Nico Ruderman: Nico. Yes,

650
01:23:42.500 --> 01:23:43.990
jim murez: Jim Robb,

651
01:23:44.900 --> 01:23:46.280
jim murez: Jason.

652
01:23:46.400 --> 01:23:48.880
Jason Sugars: Yes, Ally.

653
01:23:48.890 --> 01:23:52.850
Alley Bean: Yes, Kai. Yes, Mike.

654
01:23:53.010 --> 01:23:54.290
Mike Bravo: Yes,

655
01:23:54.360 --> 01:23:55.490
jim murez: Sol it out.

656
01:23:55.500 --> 01:23:56.590
Soledad Ursua: Yes,

657
01:23:56.600 --> 01:23:58.730
CJ Cole: Cj: Yes,

658
01:23:59.360 --> 01:24:00.519
jim murez: Robert.

659
01:24:01.500 --> 01:24:02.750
robertthibodeau: Yes,

660
01:24:03.390 --> 01:24:05.309
Clark Brown: Clark. Yes,

661
01:24:05.330 --> 01:24:07.719
Michael: Mikkel. Yes,

662
01:24:07.940 --> 01:24:13.730
jim murez: thank you. The motion carries sixteen zero zero

663
01:24:15.100 --> 01:24:17.740
jim murez: um moving along

664
01:24:18.130 --> 01:24:19.590
jim murez: outreach

665
01:24:19.620 --> 01:24:30.919
jim murez: promotion of Facebook ads. Could somebody make the motion, please? I'll make the motion, Jim Vicki Vicki looks like I left a

666
01:24:31.140 --> 01:24:33.610
jay : piece of thing in here. From the

667
01:24:34.430 --> 01:24:35.389
there we go.

668
01:24:35.400 --> 01:24:39.289
Alley Bean: I'll second you the Jr. J. Already did. Thank you very much.

669
01:24:39.300 --> 01:24:46.269
jim murez: Do we have any public comment on this item. Yes, we do. Um Lisa. Why don't you go ahead?

670
01:24:48.320 --> 01:25:02.889
Lisa Redmond: Um: Yeah. Technically, this motion shouldn't even be on the agenda tonight. It was put on as a placeholder on Thursday night, I think, with the idea that it was going to happen at the Budget meeting last night. It did not happen at the Budget meeting last night,

671
01:25:03.040 --> 01:25:16.259
Lisa Redmond: As the Budget people put through a motion to change a standing rule, the all-funded items must pass through the Budget Committee before going to the Board.

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01:25:16.360 --> 01:25:23.830
Lisa Redmond: This has not gone through the Budget Committee before coming to the Board, so it should be postponed to another meeting.

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01:25:25.570 --> 01:25:40.039
jim murez: You know she's actually I'm going to stop, I think at this point she's actually right. I think that was my mistake. Um! This item did not get put on business Cards did, and it was supposed to be put on here as a placeholder, and it wasn't

674
01:25:40.560 --> 01:25:52.959
jim murez: um. We didn't hear it yesterday, so it didn't actually come from Budget, and we don't have a vote. So let's move on, and we'll hear it at a future meeting. Sorry everyone

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01:25:53.550 --> 01:25:57.969
jay : um business cards.

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01:25:58.040 --> 01:25:59.739
jim murez: Thank you, Jay.

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01:26:00.540 --> 01:26:01.870
jim murez: Second

678
01:26:01.880 --> 01:26:04.639
Alley Bean: second it, ally. Thank you, Ali.

679
01:26:06.950 --> 01:26:12.050
jim murez: Any public comment on this side of Let's start by lowering everybody's hands.

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01:26:12.830 --> 01:26:16.440
jim murez: Go ahead and raise your hand. Now, if you wanted to speak on this item,

681
01:26:17.260 --> 01:26:24.689
jim murez: be running this tumor in mine. What would you like? No, you go right ahead. Okay, Helen. Um, please go ahead

682
01:26:26.230 --> 01:26:33.839
Helen Fallon: now. One Jim, you need to make a notation. That That motion wasn't heard, and it's been postponed to the next meeting of prior motion

683
01:26:33.850 --> 01:26:36.780
Helen Fallon: Wasn't our motion of the Budget Committee different.

684
01:26:38.250 --> 01:26:43.450
Helen Fallon: You need to go back and see what it actually was, because again, I think this is another placeholder motion

685
01:26:44.280 --> 01:26:46.750
Helen Fallon: got revised at the Budget Committee,

686
01:26:48.430 --> 01:26:53.080
Helen Fallon: so you should be voting on the correct motion. Not not the wrong motion. Thank you.

687
01:26:53.970 --> 01:27:03.489
jay : Thank you, Helen. Gut puppet. Go ahead, and Vicky Vicki hang on just one second. Let me just check and see if there was some difference, and she's right as A. J.

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01:27:03.500 --> 01:27:05.010
jim murez: Yeah, here it is.

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01:27:05.040 --> 01:27:14.250
jay : It should be two hundred and fifty cards per person to a match from a five hundred dollars for all cards. That's correct from this different,

690
01:27:15.480 --> 01:27:17.010
jim murez: so

691
01:27:17.430 --> 01:27:24.319
jim murez: we can do it as an alternate motion. But this motion was never really made, so let's just change the motion,

692
01:27:25.530 --> 01:27:28.859
jim murez: because this was just a placeholder

693
01:27:29.320 --> 01:27:32.200
jim murez: Whoops! I can't see. There we go,

694
01:27:33.380 --> 01:27:35.340
jim murez: and that's the correct one,

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01:27:35.870 --> 01:27:42.090
jim murez: I assume. J and ally. Are you both still good with the motion? It was the word. It was slightly changed.

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01:27:42.100 --> 01:27:43.090
jim murez: Hallie, are you okay?

697
01:27:43.100 --> 01:27:43.889
Alley Bean: I am

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01:27:43.900 --> 01:27:51.080
jim murez: okay. Um. Let me just double check on the vote. The vote was six zero. Zero.

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01:27:59.630 --> 01:28:00.740
jim murez: Okay,

700
01:28:00.930 --> 01:28:03.139
Vicki Halliday: we have one more public comment.

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01:28:03.150 --> 01:28:06.739
jim murez: Yeah, okay, let's go back to public comment. Thank you. Vicky.

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01:28:06.750 --> 01:28:09.000
Vicki Halliday: Uh: Got that. Go ahead, please.

703
01:28:11.590 --> 01:28:16.199
Goat Puppet: Yes, and thank you again to our Savior Jay handle,

704
01:28:16.930 --> 01:28:19.589
Goat Puppet: keeping you from financial ruin.

705
01:28:20.230 --> 01:28:22.949
Goat Puppet: I can't have five hundred cards.

706
01:28:23.060 --> 01:28:26.649
Goat Puppet: Five hundred dollars. No, no, no, no, no, no!

707
01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:36.459
Goat Puppet: So it's up to two hundred and fifty, two dollars a card, and you can put pretty things on there for that

708
01:28:36.760 --> 01:28:39.090
Goat Puppet: like Venice

709
01:28:39.100 --> 01:28:42.170
Goat Puppet: home of the homeless.

710
01:28:42.620 --> 01:28:51.890
Goat Puppet: Oh, that's lovely. Yes, that's the new slogan. Prevent us, and you put that in your business cards and then on the back of the business card. You

711
01:28:51.930 --> 01:28:53.589
Goat Puppet: put a small box.

712
01:28:53.840 --> 01:28:59.300
Goat Puppet: That box is for donations to your outside nonprofits.

713
01:28:59.520 --> 01:29:02.480
Goat Puppet: Jose Wizard taught me that trick.

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01:29:02.550 --> 01:29:05.439
Goat Puppet: I think you should do it here, too.

715
01:29:09.120 --> 01:29:10.590
Goat Puppet: Pass it and make sure

716
01:29:10.600 --> 01:29:13.609
Goat Puppet: you cross the teas and dot the eyes.

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01:29:14.090 --> 01:29:18.259
Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Gut, puppet. You'll want to go ahead, please.

718
01:29:18.790 --> 01:29:22.279
Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, i'm in favor of giving

719
01:29:22.630 --> 01:29:27.950
Yolanda Gonzalez: cards to those that really advocate for our Venice Neighborhood Council.

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01:29:27.960 --> 01:29:31.600
Yolanda Gonzalez: Two hundred cards go a long way. They last a long time.

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01:29:31.710 --> 01:29:50.610
Yolanda Gonzalez: I was on the board, not only for Venice, but for also royal heights, and it lasted me forever. Give them to those that really are going to use them. They're going to be outreaching, and that way we can get maybe proper candidates into our Adventist Neighborhood Council. But if not, I find it a waste of money. Thank you.

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01:29:50.860 --> 01:29:54.519
Vicki Halliday: Thanks, Yolanda. Uh Lisa Redmond. Go ahead, please.

723
01:29:56.620 --> 01:30:04.590
Lisa Redmond: Yeah. A simple point of order. Helen brought this up earlier. You just can't simply cross out motions.

724
01:30:04.600 --> 01:30:06.690
Chie: Oh, I want another.

725
01:30:06.700 --> 01:30:10.320
jim murez: Hearing other voices,

726
01:30:10.330 --> 01:30:12.619
Alley Bean: Kai understood.

727
01:30:14.610 --> 01:30:18.049
jim murez: Well, hold on one second. Let me give you a little bit of time back there.

728
01:30:19.860 --> 01:30:21.399
jim murez: Okay, Go ahead.

729
01:30:23.670 --> 01:30:26.910
jim murez: Where'd she go? Lisa. Go ahead. Sorry about that,

730
01:30:27.720 --> 01:30:45.400
Lisa Redmond: all right. My point of order is Helen brought this up earlier. You simply cannot cross out motions and put in a new one after an and a meeting has been agendized for the Ground Act for seventy two hours. You must now make an amendment motion from the language, and to that point

731
01:30:45.410 --> 01:30:50.440
Lisa Redmond: we can't keep doing budget meetings the night before, and re-changing everything

732
01:30:50.450 --> 01:30:57.250
Lisa Redmond: that that's just wrong. Please do it properly, and make an amendment motion and get all of the proper steps.

733
01:30:59.340 --> 01:31:00.679
Vicki Halliday: Thank you

734
01:31:04.070 --> 01:31:05.909
jim murez: any more public comment.

735
01:31:05.920 --> 01:31:06.710
Now,

736
01:31:07.230 --> 01:31:10.750
jim murez: okay, public comment is closed. We have any committee Comment:

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01:31:13.850 --> 01:31:17.619
Vicki Halliday: Yeah. I see solo, Dad's hand. Death and Melissa's hands are up.

738
01:31:25.670 --> 01:31:27.490
Vicki Halliday: So then you want to go ahead.

739
01:31:27.500 --> 01:31:55.599
jim murez: Yeah, um. So I I really think these are a great tool. I meet so many stakeholders, and they ask, Where can they find us? So maybe it doesn't even need to say our particular names or email addresses just the website. How can they get in touch with us? How can they? You know it? Just It's hard to write down the the website. So this is such a great tool, and even if it doesn't have our names on it, we're our personal email addresses just having the website is such a great tool, and we can give it up

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01:31:55.610 --> 01:32:15.519
Soledad Ursua: to people because we are losing stakeholder engagement. And this is such a great way to meet new stakeholders who are concerned and just give them the website. So they have it, you know. So i'm all for this, and I really because we got this approved a while ago, and never happened. So i'd love to just get this fast track, and there's so many more people that we can engage.

741
01:32:17.210 --> 01:32:19.339
jim murez: Thank you. Um melissa.

742
01:32:20.580 --> 01:32:39.449
melissadiner: Yeah, I guess uh somewhat similar. I'm not really for generic business cards that go in the trash and are a waste of money. Um! But I would, if we can vote on this and say yes, but come up with some type of creative card business design that could

743
01:32:39.460 --> 01:32:57.970
melissadiner: possibly engage and drive people to us. That's catchy or funny in addition to providing the website for them to sign up for our mailing list. I think that's a good marketing tool, so i'll vote Yes for it if we can work on the design which I don't think needs to be approved. But maybe someone can clarify.

744
01:32:59.490 --> 01:33:09.089
Jim Robb: Thank you, Jim Robbs. The question was, Is the Budget, the Budget Committee meeting always the Monday before the actual Vnc meeting?

745
01:33:10.060 --> 01:33:15.309
Jim Robb: Or was it a special reason why it was this Monday before the meetings today.

746
01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:18.179
Jim Robb: That's my question.

747
01:33:18.190 --> 01:33:22.620
jim murez: Um, Jay, do you want to answer? I don't know that there is a particular

748
01:33:22.640 --> 01:33:30.290
Jim Robb: of the moment? If so, are they in the same process as I am that they need to wait for a zoom from you to do all that.

749
01:33:30.300 --> 01:33:32.490
jay : Yeah, because that has to happen.

750
01:33:32.500 --> 01:33:40.089
jay : The it has to happen for everyone that I can do All right. Well, I just. I want to clarify that doesn't fit for one and not for the other. So go ahead. Jay:

751
01:33:40.100 --> 01:33:46.310
jay : Yeah. So yeah, we have to wait. We have to make sure we can get Jim because he's the zoom keeper.

752
01:33:46.530 --> 01:34:03.500
jay : Ah, and as far as when the meetings are they, You guys have always had a set meeting, date a day of the month, but we never have any items when we call for items, and all of a sudden we get a bunch of items, and everyone needs to act on them

753
01:34:03.630 --> 01:34:16.540
jay : so as opposed to a twenty four hour meeting, which everyone knows I don't particularly care for um. I do make sure we have a seventy two hour minimum posting as a regular meeting.

754
01:34:16.610 --> 01:34:36.439
jay : Um, but yes, I would love to get to the point where we could do a ah a set date, and make sure every committee actually meets. I I personally think the problem is that the Board meets too soon in the month. Okay, and the committees are in a rush to try and get stuff done to run to the board.

755
01:34:36.450 --> 01:34:45.410
jay : It would make more sense for the board to wait, you know. One more week and let all the committees have their meetings and have enough time because

756
01:34:45.870 --> 01:35:02.750
jay : the way the way Venice is set up. You go from your committee to adcom to the board, and that's a whole process of seventy, two, seventy, two, and seventy two. That's a nine day process to get something through the budget.

757
01:35:02.760 --> 01:35:18.159
jay : So if you know, if the meeting is being held like today, you know, on the twentieth. That means that everybody who wants to have anything on the budget has to meet prior to the eleventh.

758
01:35:19.120 --> 01:35:22.910
jay : And if the eleventh is a weekend, you know now, it's the ninth.

759
01:35:23.050 --> 01:35:38.340
jay : So that's that's the issue. I have as a budget committee. So I basically am willing to, you know, bend and hold meetings for everybody to accommodate them, to be able to get it to outcome and get it to the board.

760
01:35:38.540 --> 01:35:50.560
jay : But that's the challenge we're up against. Either The committees need to meet after the board immediately after the board for their next month meetings and be done by the say seventh or eight,

761
01:35:50.620 --> 01:36:04.830
jay : or the board needs to decide to move their meeting another week out into the last week of a month, so that everybody can have their committee meetings and get it to Ad-com and then get it to the board that's just my opinion.

762
01:36:05.520 --> 01:36:06.679
Jim Robb: Thank you. Jay.

763
01:36:08.950 --> 01:36:10.860
jim murez: Okay, Um.

764
01:36:11.190 --> 01:36:13.370
jim murez: Do we have any other

765
01:36:13.770 --> 01:36:16.669
jim murez: comments? They Jay's hand. Is that

766
01:36:17.450 --> 01:36:19.120
jim murez: okay?

767
01:36:21.030 --> 01:36:35.690
CJ Cole: Um. Just for briefly, five hundred dollars is a ridiculous amount of money for two hundred and fifty cars for each of us. Um! This to print is really cheap, for the I uses, maybe even cheaper, but

768
01:36:35.700 --> 01:36:41.590
CJ Cole: two hundred and fifty cards you can get in the price range of under one hundred dollars, I mean under

769
01:36:41.600 --> 01:36:51.129
CJ Cole: twenty dollars, including shipping. So, um! Someone just threw a number in which, you know, really is not legitimate, and I don't think,

770
01:36:55.430 --> 01:37:15.059
jay : Jim, can I? Can. I really quickly respond and say that if nineteen board members all want cards, it's twenty, six dollars and thirty, two cents for two hundred and fifty cards for those people. And remember, this is for up to five hundred dollars. There's no need to spend all five hundred dollars.

771
01:37:15.070 --> 01:37:33.899
jay : So if only four people want it, and this to print is whatever twenty-five dollars you know, for two hundred and fifty cards. I believe there's color on the cards, so they are more expensive than a black and white card, you know, if it's if four people wanted it. It's one hundred bucks. That's what you'd be spending.

772
01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:50.469
jim murez: Yeah, thank you. J. And I just did the math on my calculator real quick. If If nineteen members wanted. It's four hundred and seventy five dollars, and our board's actually twenty, one members. So by the time a new Board officer comes in it very could get to be more um

773
01:37:50.670 --> 01:37:55.489
jim murez: any other comments, Vicki. Anybody have their hand up Anybody that wasn't didn't have a chance to speak the

774
01:37:55.500 --> 01:37:57.590
Vicki Halliday: uh. I see two hands up

775
01:37:57.600 --> 01:37:58.789
Vicki Halliday: in the audience.

776
01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:01.490
jim murez: Well, we already did public comment. So let's move on.

777
01:38:01.500 --> 01:38:06.150
jim murez: Okay, Okay, let's go ahead and take a vote, and

778
01:38:06.290 --> 01:38:15.589
jim murez: it's a budget item as it was pointed out, We want to do a roll call vote, and I will vote. Yes, Melissa, how do you vote

779
01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:16.779
melissadiner: and it?

780
01:38:16.840 --> 01:38:20.590
jay : Thank you Jay? Yes, Vicki.

781
01:38:20.600 --> 01:38:21.429
Vicki Halliday: Yes,

782
01:38:21.910 --> 01:38:22.790
jim murez: Bruno.

783
01:38:22.800 --> 01:38:25.569
Bruno Hernandez: Yes, Sima

784
01:38:26.570 --> 01:38:28.540
jim murez: Nico.

785
01:38:30.080 --> 01:38:30.990
Nico Ruderman: Yes.

786
01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:31.940
jim murez: Oh, yes,

787
01:38:33.620 --> 01:38:35.559
jim murez: Jim Robb,

788
01:38:39.670 --> 01:38:41.290
jim murez: Jason.

789
01:38:41.300 --> 01:38:42.349
Jason Sugars: Yes,

790
01:38:42.580 --> 01:38:43.840
jim murez: Alley

791
01:38:45.550 --> 01:38:46.690
jim murez: Kai

792
01:38:46.700 --> 01:38:47.760
Chie: yes,

793
01:38:47.860 --> 01:38:49.130
jim murez: Mike.

794
01:38:49.310 --> 01:38:50.490
Mike Bravo: Yes,

795
01:38:50.730 --> 01:38:52.189
jim murez: sol it down.

796
01:38:52.200 --> 01:38:55.730
CJ Cole: Yes. Cj. Yes,

797
01:38:56.540 --> 01:38:59.710
robertthibodeau: um Robert Tibeto. Yes,

798
01:39:00.360 --> 01:39:02.380
Clark Brown: Clark, Yes,

799
01:39:02.570 --> 01:39:04.490
jim murez: and Michelle.

800
01:39:04.500 --> 01:39:05.809
Michael: Yes,

801
01:39:05.930 --> 01:39:08.310
jim murez: and let's go back. Sima

802
01:39:09.510 --> 01:39:11.790
Jim Robb: Shimrock. Yes.

803
01:39:11.810 --> 01:39:13.289
jim murez: Are you back? Chip? Okay,

804
01:39:13.300 --> 01:39:14.340
Jim Robb: Yes,

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01:39:14.910 --> 01:39:16.500
jim murez: uh, thank you.

806
01:39:18.390 --> 01:39:21.889
jim murez: So the motion carries one thousand six hundred, and the

807
01:39:22.420 --> 01:39:36.309
CJ Cole: um will be around a spreadsheet, and anybody that wants to have cards made, they will need to return the spreadsheet to jay, and

808
01:39:36.510 --> 01:39:39.629
jim murez: indicating that they that they want cards made

809
01:39:40.710 --> 01:39:44.409
jim murez: um moving right along.

810
01:39:45.820 --> 01:39:47.040
jim murez: Um,

811
01:39:47.290 --> 01:39:50.640
jim murez: I see that we have somebody with a hand up.

812
01:39:51.500 --> 01:39:54.250
jim murez: Oh, Melissa, could you lower your hand, please.

813
01:39:55.310 --> 01:39:57.019
jim murez: Um.

814
01:39:57.540 --> 01:40:15.680
jim murez: So this was a consent. Item Number nineteen. Item nineteen on our agenda um public parking at Abbott, Kenny and Dennis Boulevard. I was parking a transportation item that was back in August. First. It was four zero zero. That's why it was.

815
01:40:15.870 --> 01:40:20.800
jim murez: What do you call it? A consent? I was the presenter of it.

816
01:40:20.820 --> 01:40:30.109
jim murez: The motion is to request that L. A. Dot to an accounting of how many public parking spaces are available on Venice boulevard between

817
01:40:30.120 --> 01:40:41.490
jim murez: Lincoln and Pacific is related to the coastal development. Permit nine, six, point zero, zero, five for the relinquishment of State Highway, one hundred and eighty seven Venice boulevard.

818
01:40:41.720 --> 01:40:44.289
jim murez: Um! Could I have a maker of the motion, please?

819
01:40:44.300 --> 01:40:46.490
melissadiner: Is it on consent future employment?

820
01:40:46.500 --> 01:40:48.890
jim murez: It's on consent? Then we don't do that?

821
01:40:48.900 --> 01:40:51.690
jim murez: Oh, you're right. That's the only item on consent.

822
01:40:51.700 --> 01:41:01.789
jim murez: Well, okay, first of all, we have to see if anybody has a legitimate reason for wanting to pull it off of consent. Vicki. Do we have anybody in the audience? We have two hands up. Okay,

823
01:41:01.800 --> 01:41:08.310
jim murez: Wait for Jim first. Is that the only item on consent, because I can't see that.

824
01:41:08.580 --> 01:41:11.920
Vicki Halliday: Okay, uh gu puppet. Go ahead, please.

825
01:41:13.230 --> 01:41:19.739
Goat Puppet: Yes, God, I would like to call all my items if I could think,

826
01:41:19.990 --> 01:41:24.289
Ivan: Why, Why, Why do you? Why do you want to pull them off the consent, calendar?

827
01:41:24.910 --> 01:41:32.129
Goat Puppet: We want to know how many parking spaces are in a with Kenny, and how many lists are we gonna have?

828
01:41:32.460 --> 01:41:40.640
Goat Puppet: Okay, Thank you. That's not a reason,

829
01:41:41.070 --> 01:41:44.089
Vicki Halliday: Sean. O'brien, go ahead, please.

830
01:41:45.230 --> 01:41:53.639
Sean Obrien: Sean, Do you have a reason why you want to pull this off of consent. Oh, no, I was just called out, saying, I support the motion. Thank you. Okay,

831
01:41:54.120 --> 01:41:55.460
jim murez: Kolana.

832
01:41:57.960 --> 01:41:59.059
Okay,

833
01:42:01.310 --> 01:42:13.990
jim murez: Vicki was there a third hand. It looks like that. Well, I I don't know who's doing this. Gym. You or me. You go ahead. I'm sorry I I just brought up the list because it's trying to get a handle on what was going on here.

834
01:42:14.000 --> 01:42:16.350
Vicki Halliday: Okay, Colana, You want to go ahead, please.

835
01:42:17.460 --> 01:42:26.570
Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): Yes, I've heard many public comments at various neighborhood councils. Do you have a reason for wanting to pull this item off of consent?

836
01:42:26.580 --> 01:42:33.970
Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): No, I support this. I thought, there is. That's me. Thank you. No, this is not public comment. Okay, let's move on.

837
01:42:35.020 --> 01:42:37.129
jim murez: So. Um!

838
01:42:37.630 --> 01:42:42.620
Ivan: It was approved on consent, I guess, in a motion.

839
01:42:43.060 --> 01:42:47.690
Ivan: Get a motion. Oh, Yeah, we need a motion, somebody, and it'll just pass.

840
01:42:47.700 --> 01:42:49.690
jim murez: Okay, Somebody want to make the motion.

841
01:42:49.700 --> 01:42:51.820
Alley Bean: I'll make the motion. Ally.

842
01:42:51.830 --> 01:42:54.389
jim murez: Thank you. Ali: I'm Vicky, We'll second.

843
01:42:54.400 --> 01:42:55.859
jim murez: Thank you, Vicki:

844
01:42:56.430 --> 01:43:03.189
Ivan: Okay, since nobody pulled it. Then the item just passes. You don't take the vote. I don't have to take a vote. Okay,

845
01:43:03.570 --> 01:43:05.070
jim murez: Um,

846
01:43:05.600 --> 01:43:12.730
jim murez: land. Use consent. Items. There are none. There are no old land use items. There are no new land use items.

847
01:43:13.200 --> 01:43:18.210
Michael: Then the the paddle tennis motions are the land use items. Were they?

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Michael: Did I mess that up? Is that how they? Well, they're just somewhere else on the agenda.

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jim murez: Oh, yeah, they are twenty, six. Okay, so should we take these out of order? Would you like us to do that?

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jim murez: We can do that?

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Michael: I'm sure the applicant one or the i'm sure Larry wouldn't mind.

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jim murez: Okay. So hold on, Let's just see. There was two items, I believe. Yeah, that was my mistake in agenda. I see them. Okay, so land use always comes before the general board items. Why, I don't know, but it's like

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jim murez: tradition. So let's take twenty nine, Michelle. You want to make them read and make the motion, make the motion and read.

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jay : Can we combine twenty-nine and thirty?

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jay : No, maybe Can we Why not

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jim murez: I don't know um, Michelle, you're the chair of that committee.

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Ivan: Can we combine the two? I think the two different motions.

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jim murez: Yeah, they they're typically unrelated items. I mean, they're both about paddle tennis, but they're not. They're

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jim murez: one of them is about

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jim murez: backing a private group. It's run by one individual and the other one is about

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jim murez: taking a position on the existing paddle tennis courts.

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Michael: Sorry I was muted the whole time I was talking.

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robertthibodeau: Sorry I will. I will introduce the motion if you want. Tim.

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jim murez: Yeah, can. But can we combine the two?

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Michael: I don't think so, because they're too. They're related to the same thing. Battle, tennis courts. But they are two very different motions.

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jim murez: Yeah, that was my impression, too. Okay, Thank you. So let's go ahead and take twenty nine. Now that you're back online, Mikhail, Will you make the motion?

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Michael: Yeah. So I will make the motion, and I'm gonna Well,

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Michael: can we get a second or on the motion? Just read the motion, and then let's get a second V, and we'll send it. Thank you. The Vnc. Recommends A. No pickable lines would be permanently painted, and no pick of all that, so it could be permanently affection of that speech. Cattle, tennis courts

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Michael: pick a ball. She'll no longer be allowed on the Venice Beach. Pal of times. Course, let me just clarify that in in that loop he

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Michael: B. This was an either or option, and B was passed by the looppeck committee, so i'd like to amend this motion, if that's possible before we start discussing it, since this one is not the one that was passed off a committee.

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jim murez: Um.

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jim murez: So you want to create an alternate motion.

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Ivan: It's essentially just striking from A to tennis courts and leaving the like. The Vnc. Recommends. Pick a balsh. I'm. No longer be allowed on the Venice beach. Paddle tennis courts. That's the motion that was passed by.

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jim murez: Okay, so that right there. So now it looks correct.

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Michael: I'm sorry that's too small. My screen.

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Michael: Yes. Okay.

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jim murez: Um. So now we would need to have

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jim murez: a maker and a seconder to the alternate,

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Michael: so i'll make the alternate motion. Thank you.

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jim murez: We have a second it, Jim. Thank you, Vicki:

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Michael: Okay, now, and I think Larry has a bit of a like a brief

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Michael: presentation. He's the proponent for this. Okay. So Cal Tennis Association is Larry unmuted? Yes, he's here. Let me allow him to not wear a You can talk away, Larry, About how much time do you think you need?

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Larry Nagler: Well, I I need a few minutes for each of the motions. Okay. So if I give you three minutes. That'll be enough for you to tell us what you want to tell us.

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Larry Nagler: Well, okay, uh, First,

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Larry Nagler: i'm going to give you a very brief background for you to evaluate what I'm about to tell you. I I was the general counsel of the Southern California Tennis Association for three Presidents.

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Larry Nagler: I was on the tennis circuit. For eight years I played doubles with Arthur Ashe, and I was his lawyer when he turned pro, and I have represented tennis court builders which become relevant to the second motion.

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Larry Nagler: This issue about the Pickle ball lines is a hot issue, and i'm going to ask you to reconsider the deletion of it and the reinsertion of it.

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Larry Nagler: But any event what happened was, we were told that the courts were going to be painted with pickleball line some of the courts.

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Larry Nagler: I then prepared a brief.

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Larry Nagler: I submitted it to the Department of Recreation and Parks, and it's part of your attachments. It's a second attachment, and I found out that when this was constructed the construction permit

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Larry Nagler: binds all users

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Larry Nagler: of the courts.

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Larry Nagler: It has perpetual covenants that run with the land that they are to be used as paddle tennis courts, and I also found and attached the construction plans that showed that the lines on the court had to be paneled,

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Larry Nagler: so I asked the parks and recreation to submit these to their lawyers.

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Larry Nagler: I was told that no pickable lines were going to be

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Larry Nagler: painted. But now the courts are being resurfaced at this very moment, and this relates to the second motion, and I think that we have to have a direct ruling on the fact that no pickle ball lines are to be painted, but in any event,

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Larry Nagler: to the only use for paddle tennis. The

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Larry Nagler: The problem is that there there have been creeping problems on the courts by the pickleballers. Um, who have three courts on Fridays.

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Larry Nagler: They have two courts three days a week, and many i'll call them at large. Pickleballers come to the courts, Just use the courts and are freezing out the paddle tennis player.

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Larry Nagler: There are so many pickleball courts around. There are many, many in Santa Monica and in Culver City

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Larry Nagler: there are noise issues. Excuse me. Noise issues that affect the land values. You're going to hear from one of our people who has a place right next to the courts.

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Larry Nagler: There may be it's wrecking the panel facilities and creating chaos. So my first, that's the That's the presentation on my first motion.

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Larry Nagler: Okay, no pickle ball and no pickle ball lines to be painted.

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Michael: Okay, Thank you, Larry. You kept it under three. We appreciate it,

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Michael: Jim, can I? Larry is correct. I I mistakenly corrected the stricken part of that, or I mistakenly amended it. There was a part of the original motion, as Luke got it that was crossed out, and I was just misreading it.

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Michael: So the original motion is actually is correct.

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Michael: Okay. So i'm sorry for creating that confusion,

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jim murez: All right. So i'll just cross this all out. We'll just assume the original motion is the one that we're going to be using.

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Michael: So I need to make. Do I need to make the original motion on.

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Ivan: Yes.

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Ivan: Well, you're ready once before already. I think we Well, let me. Just let me. Just. I'll make the whole motion again. Thank you, Ivan. Okay,

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Ivan: I mean, do I have to actually read it again.

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jim murez: Okay, let's move on. Now, Vicki, let's get more public comment. Public comment. Yeah, okay, Give me one second. Let me reset the clock.

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jim murez: Okay,

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jim murez: Go ahead. Go ahead, please,

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Goat Puppet: to play my picket ball

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Goat Puppet: pickle ball,

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Goat Puppet: so I need to play my pickle.

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Goat Puppet: After all, discriminating against pickleballers might be offensive.

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Goat Puppet: We need to have picket, ball and pickle ball accepted on our Venice community.

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Goat Puppet: When we're playing our pickle ball, we like to light up an occasional fun and place of rap music out there. The

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Goat Puppet: now what do you pedal people? Do? You're boring in your old school and you're out

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Goat Puppet: with paddle, tennis, and pickleball. Let's all become pickleballers and leave the Colonel tennis to the imagers.

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Goat Puppet: Another magic.

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You guys are trying to discriminate.

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Goat Puppet: And finally, I was right about that epic, Kitty, I need my advocate, Jay-handle, to put a stop to this illegal meeting. Right now.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank You

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Vicki Halliday: Um John. Go ahead, please.

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jim murez: John Yap to unmute

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jim murez: is he online, Biggie.

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Vicki Halliday: It says he is, and I've allowed

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john: all right. This is John Kim.

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john: I was a former tense player at Yale University. I fell in love with pickleball. I mean a paddle tennis a year ago, and I actually live about an hour and a half away, and I come three times a week, just to play panel at Venice, just because there's no other places to play paddle That's the uh special uh community environment. And I would just you know there's so many places to play uh pickle, but not title. And uh, I just wanted to voice up. Thank you very much.

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jim murez: Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. John Um, Scottie Friedman,

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Vicki Halliday: Go ahead, please.

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scotty freedman: Hello! Can you guys hear me?

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Yes,

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scotty freedman: Okay. So just a quick background uh

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scotty freedman: i'm paddle tennis's, game's. Greatest champion in terms of statistically returning points. I've been playing pal tennis at Venice Beach for forty, four years. I'm. Also a resident who lives on the walk through to face taxes, you know I I have to express sentiment pretty much along the lines. What Larry said.

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scotty freedman: You know there's so many places to play pickleball right Now, you know, Venice is not really Venice has always been sacred for Palestinians. If not,

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scotty freedman: it's just not a community like it anywhere in the country, and we have such a wonderful community of people. Thousands of people look forward to this wonderful Los Angeles free facility,

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scotty freedman: and you know the bottom line is just a lot of places like. I think we should just keep a paddle, and if they want to build a pick of all court somewhere, I've done a speech. That's fine, but I think that's what we should do

944
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Ivan: anyways by two cents. I'm really hoping that we get to keep it powerful. Thank you very much.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Scottie. Um Next up Yolanda. Go ahead, please.

946
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Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, good evening. I am a. I started playing tennis before I became a professional swimmer. My parents almost had me on a tennis court, and Arthur Ashe, Kramer Osuna used to come to our club and play,

947
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Yolanda Gonzalez: and tennis is a specialty paddle. Tennis is a specialty and pick a ball is another specialty. As a matter of fact, I even watched the championship on television,

948
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Yolanda Gonzalez: but you can't overput lines and lines and lines, keep it to tennis and keep it to paddle tennis for those people that have been involved in these sports. Listen to us,

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Yolanda Gonzalez: and because pick. A ball is very easy to establish somewhere else with the right now with properties that are going to be because of the drought that we have,

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Yolanda Gonzalez: we're going to be using Those Those city properties can be used for creating pickball courts. Thank you. Thank you. Yolanda. Uh Brian Condon. Go ahead, please.

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Brian Condon: All right. Thank you. I'm a long time homeowner in Venice and an avid paddle tennis player. Um, I want to let you all know what you probably already do that. There is a thriving paddle tennis community down at the beach.

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Brian Condon: Uh, It's really an iconic Venice uh sport. Quite often when we're playing tourists walk by. They ask questions, they sit down and watch. It's really a great calling card for Venice, and it's just an iconic scene there.

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Brian Condon: It's also at full capacity every time I go, you know, by seven, thirty in the morning the courts are full, and there's a wait. What's the impact of? Well, well, not just the the numbers you sort of overrun of the courts and inability to get access. But on all the other facilities down there, once the large numbers of football players

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Brian Condon: come. So I think that the one of the the goals of this Venice of Council should be to preserve an iconic Venice program and preserve pickle, a panel tennis that way. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Brian. Um, You want to go ahead, please.

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): Yes, I grew up playing tennis.

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): My ex was an avid racquetball player. How many people remember racquetball?

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): I think that we need to find a way, especially considering we we have an obesity epidemic running throughout our country. I think we should be encouraging exercise of all sorts,

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): that I would hope that parks and wreck, or whoever governs this facility can find a way to accommodate both

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): paddle, ball and pickle ball. Pickle ball seems to be very popular, and if that's what's going to get, especially the young off their sofa or away from from their social media.

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): Um, I think we do need to accommodate both paddle. Wall, maybe a dying sport it. I don't want to say it, but Racket, I had to bid a do to racquet ball, and maybe paddleball players will have to do the same. Thank you, Gilani. Um. Ask me, Gregson,

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Vicki Halliday: Go ahead, please.

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Esme gregson: Can you hear me? Yes, hi! Hi! Esme Gregson! Um. Thank you for letting me speak. I just wanted to make a few points. And first i'd like to really respond to the last speaker.

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Esme gregson: The courts at Venice Beach, as Larry stated, were intended for Palestine is, and to say that that to say that the courts need to be changed to pickleball, to get people out of their of their couches is

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Esme gregson: not. It's not a reasonable position. But the courts are right now, being refenced,

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Esme gregson: and um they, the The surfacing has been, has been damaged by all of the pickleballers that come and draw their um, pick up their lines on the courts themselves, and by doing so they're actually in violation of city ordinance.

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Esme gregson: They're in violation of the law. But we have not ever, you know, called the cops on anyone, but really to encourage pickleball players to violate the law

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Esme gregson: by going on to public property and changing the nature of the sport. I mean. Sorry changing this, and how you wrap it up, please. My My point is is that um, I really think that if we allow pickleballers to by force, change our courts. Yeah, that may be you. You run over your

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Esme gregson: okay uh Kathleen. No one's. Go ahead, please.

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Cathleen Owens: Can you hear me?

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Cathleen Owens: Yes, hi! This is Tom I'm Kathleen's husband. Just to add a little context of my wife and I are very nude to the game. We've only been there

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Cathleen Owens: on the courts for six months. We've enjoyed the heck out of ourselves. It seems like I want to focus on two things. I did a little research in the city of Los Angeles. There are five hundred and twelve locations that have tennis courts

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Cathleen Owens: with an average court size of four. That's two thousand tennis courts,

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Cathleen Owens: our pitches for eleven courts to be protected. The second thing is, i'd like to read something off the website from the United States. Ah, Pickleball Association, to quote them. Not us.

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Cathleen Owens: As long as you have a hard surface. You can play pickleball anywhere. It can be played on a gym floor, concrete, asphalt, tennis courts, carpet. Some people even set up their courts on their streets

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Cathleen Owens: to play. Thank you. You've run out of time. Thank you so much,

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Vicki Halliday: Helen Fallon. Go ahead, please.

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Helen Fallon: Um, I support that motion. I know a lot of powerful players, and I agree with the speakers who have previously stated that you know pickle ball chords should be severed from the paddleball courts,

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Helen Fallon: and those courts were designed for palpable. Let's keep them that way. They're well used. They're

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Helen Fallon: You're a valuable asset to the community, and it's not like they. It's a sport that has died out, and the boats are constantly empty nickel. All players can lobby for a separate court somewhere in Venice.

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Helen Fallon: Let them do that. They should be taking over the power of the power wall. Course.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Thank you, Helen Jonathan. You want to go ahead, please.

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Jonathan Le: Yeah, I, Jonathan Lee, Venice, Venice resident here. I just want to point out.

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Jonathan Le: But the heart of this motion isn't about discriminating against pickleball Instead, it's really about preserving the Palestinian community which has been

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Jonathan Le: invented us to have for fifty years, and the reality is is that there's no way to balance. Allowing you pick a ball in these courts without irreparably damaging a displace in the palace of this community,

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Jonathan Le: and this is because these courts are already at Max Capacity.

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Jonathan Le: So pickwall players take away courts, even if it's just one or two that means paddle players are being excluded from the same courts, and these chords

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Jonathan Le: they really are the heart and the soul of the pal tennis community

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Jonathan Le: glue that holds our community together. And that's why taking away these courts, even of just a few, is actually a really big deal.

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Jonathan Le: It will, without a doubt, have a hugely negative.

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Jonathan Le: So we just asked the community to help protect or ask this committee committee to help protect our community. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Jonathan Steve. You want to go ahead, please.

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Steve (Los Angeles): Yes, my name is Steve Gumflow. Can you hear me?

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Vicki Halliday: Yes,

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Steve (Los Angeles): Steve Gumblow, I live. A stone's throw from Venice,

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Steve (Los Angeles): Southern Santa Monica been involved with the courts for about fifteen years, and have been working with this historical committee as part of it. Larry's argument is that

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Steve (Los Angeles): we have legal standing on these courts just want to kind of reiterate what he was saying. The California Coastal Commission designated the courts as paddle tennis only, and that was in

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Steve (Los Angeles): perpetuity running with the land. So that is the legal standing that we have on the courts, and we also help fund the courts

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Steve (Los Angeles): ourselves when some of them were built, so that also was under the understanding that they would remain paddle tennis courts.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you so much, the Renee. Go ahead, please,

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Vicki Halliday: Renee,

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Vicki Halliday: one on mute.

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Rene: Thank you.

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Rene: Um. I just wanted to read you a letter that I had written very quickly. You know. I've noticed that pickleball has picked up all of the nation, and you can play pickleball just about anywhere. They have options at any gymnasium. You can put a ninety nine dollars pickleball net and enjoy yourselves.

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Rene: I moved to Venice specifically to be part of the paddle tennis community.

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Rene: It is one of the best things that's ever happened.

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Rene: This community is um welcoming. It's a family. It's a very large group of people, and we're very welcoming to anyone that wants to learn this sport. But this is our home, and we're here to represent that we want to keep these paddle tennis for us.

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Rene: Um! It's a historic

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Rene: spot. Venice people come from all over the world. I meet people from France, Italy, everywhere. They come here year over year, to be at this Mecca of paddle tennis. Some of the things you Haven't thought about. The wind will blow a pickle ball around. You're going to put pickleball

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Rene: where it's windy. They're not even going to be able to use the courts, and it's noisy. It is the next you're rolling out of time. I'm done. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Uh Jan. You want to go ahead, please.

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Jan: Good evening, everybody. I'm. Jan, Oregon and I'm. Also a paddle tennis enthusiast.

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Jan: What nobody has brought up yet is the fact that

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Jan: paddle, tennis, and pickle ball are two completely different sports. They have completely different dynamics, and we are now regularly seeing pickleballers attempting to take over paddle tennis courts. Hostilities are rising, and there are physical altercations that are being recognized on a regular basis.

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Jan: The fact that pickle ball, as they say in their own periodicals,

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Jan: can be played anywhere. The sports should then be taken to existing public tennis courts, where they can multiply,

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Jan: Use those courts that are no longer being used for tennis. And

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Vicki Halliday: thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Uh Adam. Please go ahead,

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Adam Pokornicky: Mary. Yes, go ahead great. I just want to. I want to jump on Jan's point. Um Conversations down there are pretty heated um, and it's not pick of all people's fault. They don't understand that these are. Get us into paddle tennis courts, but the paddle tennis players try to remove them from the courts, like things get pretty hot.

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Adam Pokornicky: I also want to make a point that panel Tennis can only be played in these courts. It's not like kick of all we can be played anywhere. And lastly,

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Adam Pokornicky: any lines of the courts is very much the intent of the people about community. They, I know for a fact. Many people invited them to come up me that they intend to do a hostile take over these courts. They've already set up social club.

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Adam Pokornicky: They're using things such as obesity equity. Older people can play pickleball, but this is by all means a hostile takeover of our courts, and the first step is to get their their ability to play more and to get their lives paid on our course. And we need to stop this, and a lot of patent is getting their fraud. Do what we can for the pestral community to try themselves just somewhere else.

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Adam Pokornicky: X:

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Vicki Halliday: Great. Thank you. Um, We've got

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Vicki Halliday: three more speakers. Wise person is a Francisco. Next up is Christine Lee. Go ahead, please.

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christinelee: Hi! Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Hi! My name is Christine. I'm. A community organizer. I've organizer for pot, paddle, Venice. I've helped raise money for wrecks and park to run tournaments in two thousand and nineteen and i'm pretty much a paddle tennis nut. I want to talk about the noise that pick a ball creates.

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christinelee: Java. Really, Aureliano did a report on his podcast for the La Times, and he says that, according to their meter

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christinelee: tennis caps out at sixty decibels, which is the equivalent of two people having a conversation about a meter apart. But pick a ball can easily keep out at eighty decibels, which is the equivalent of hearing a free train from fifty miles away. Heat away, sorry, and the sound of a blender is eighty eight decibels. So people who live across the boardwalk are going to be affected by the sound, and i'm very concerned for my friends who do so. So please consider the noise pollution. It is a problem Nationwide people have been complaining about the noise

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christinelee: of all, and I really think they can build courts elsewhere. Thank you so much.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Christine. Ah, Peter, go ahead, please,

1032
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Vicki Halliday: Peter.

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Peter: Hello, Yes, hi! You're unmuted. Okay, Thank you. My name is Peter Ruiz. I'm, a skateboarder, and it took us twenty years to build escape.

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jim murez: Peter. We lost you,

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Vicki Halliday: Peter.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, Let's go to Francisco. Go window, and then i'll come back to Peter if he

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Peter: did. I miss out. Hang on, Hang on!

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Peter: I'm sorry about that. I don't even know what you heard. Well, we didn't hear much, but you got thirty seconds. Okay. My name is Peter Ruiz, and we spent twenty years getting the skateboard park put in, and Bmx wanted to come in and ride bikes around It's designated zone. We got the handball courts for hand Bottle

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jim murez: lost you again.

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jim murez: But I think we got the just of the idea.

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Vicki Halliday: Yeah,

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Vicki Halliday: Um, Francisco, You want to go ahead,

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Vicki Halliday: Francisco?

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Francisco Galindo: Yes, we can Thank you.

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Francisco Galindo: You know what I've been playing pedal tennis for over thirty forty years, and I play tournaments

1046
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Francisco Galindo: forever, and I love this story, and Venice Beach is the place for paddle tennis. Um, I understand that there's new sports coming in, and there's a lot going on, and I think pickleball blew up because of the pandemic, for some reason

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Francisco Galindo: Um and and I I've never played. I play pickleball once in my life, and it's not for me, but i'm sure it's for a lot of other people, but build their own courts. This is Venice Beach. It's It's like You're not going to put a a pickleball cord on Muscle Beach, Are you?

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Francisco Galindo: You know, in front of all the people working out it's no different.

1049
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Francisco Galindo: Keep it. Keep it pedal tennis,

1050
02:11:20.960 --> 02:11:24.589
Francisco Galindo: and put quartz for pickleball elsewhere.

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Francisco Galindo: That's it

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Francisco Galindo: very simple.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Francisca. Um!

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Vicki Halliday: There are other hands up, Jim, but I had called him as the last speaker, so it's up to you if you want.

1055
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jim murez: How many more are there? Three?

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jim murez: Um! If you people that have comments want to make comments, could you please do so that aren't the same as everybody else. We've heard a lot of people that are in favor of the pickle ball quirks. If you're in favor of it, just say you're in favor of it so we can get our get past our meeting. We've spent a lot of time on this already. Go ahead and call the next one Vicki list.

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Vicki Halliday: I want to go ahead, please.

1058
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Wulff: Yes, I'm here. Thank you.

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Wulff: Okay. So of course, you know my friends from battle Tennis. I I have a a brand called street Battle Organized community. We have a Covid event

1060
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Wulff: in a local community business, and that's what we do. We have many business twenty five business plus involved all around a lot of tennis cards, and just touching up one of the points that somebody mentioned that

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Wulff: bracket will die A. Well, that's why we're here. We don't want to see. Palaten is dying, and we just want to encourage this to really make sure that we're on the right side of the history, and we don't let this sport that was for any speech die. So thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you. Um, actually go up, and I believe already spoke.

1063
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Vicki Halliday: Okay, so that he, Mr. Wolf, would have been the last one.

1064
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jim murez: Okay, loops. I started the clock by accident.

1065
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jim murez: Mike, Bravo and Cj. Have had their hands. Yeah, Ah, ah! Let me let me take care of the committee stuff now, because that I can see on the screen with the people's faces I don't. I can't see the attendees, but I can see the the Committee people.

1066
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jim murez: Okay, let's now take it to the committee. Mike. I believe you had your hand up first followed by Cj. Followed by Clerk.

1067
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Mike Bravo: Yeah, I have a a question, and also this is my advice for the the proponents of the the motion. But first question is, Um, what? What's What's the logic behind having this motion go through? Lepc versus something that seems more like

1068
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Mike Bravo: appropriate for, like ocean from walk. I know it's like, you know, semi-trivial. But i'm just curious. That's one

1069
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Mike Bravo: and then two with the um

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Mike Bravo: The Power Board proponents. I would also recommend you Guys

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Mike Bravo: touch base with Ah Parks and wreck and county just to follow up, you know B. And C. Has only so much influence. But if you follow up with them as well. That would be a good thing to do, and that's it.

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jim murez: Okay. So I I will just comment on the point that I know that Mikkel, before he held the meeting for this, tried several times to do a joint meeting with the ocean front walk, because that the item had come before both of them.

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jim murez: Um! It is a land use issue. It's also an ocean for a walk issue, and it was supposed to be a joint meeting, but for whatever reason they couldn't get the quorum together, they couldn't get the people together. I don't know exactly what happened. Um Mikkel can fill us in a little bit more on that. But I do know that the attempt was made. Thank you, Mike. If you could put your hand down and be appreciate. Ck: Go ahead, please.

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CJ Cole: Um, yes. I'm just very much in favor of this motion. Um. Fifty years ago, when we moved to best. Actually, we were regulars over at the

1075
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CJ Cole: times for us. Needless to say, we've aged out of that, but it's a it's a historic part of Venice, and it's not being ever changed, so i'm in favor of this motion. Thanks. Thank you. Cj: Put your hand down, please. Melissa, go ahead, please.

1076
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Clark Brown: Okay, I guess not, Melissa. Her hand was up. Clarks was up, but it went down to the

1077
02:15:25.140 --> 02:15:28.790
Clark Brown: There's a problem with Sorry. I thought I was talking.

1078
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jim murez: No, you are. Go ahead, Melissa. Go ahead, Melissa.

1079
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melissadiner: Oh, just. I just want clarification on. Why, we're voting on this. I believe that there's like funds up from the city that have already been designated for this purpose. So just if someone could clarify things,

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jim murez: Yeah, there's this guy, Mikkel Jensen, who had this on his agenda, and he he he had a committee meeting about it, and it was then forwarded to the board as a valid committee motion.

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Michael: But I think that last comment Hold on. Well, i'll speak to Jim, can I? I guess it hang on just one second, Miguel. I'm going to give you a chance to follow up at the end. Solid, Dad, Go ahead, please.

1082
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Soledad Ursua: Um, I i'm going to abstain from voting. I have never played either. I didn't realize this was so contentious. So for that reason I I don't feel like I should have any input So leave it up to you guys.

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jim murez: Thank you. Solidar

1084
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Clark Brown: Clark, You have one finger up. Does that mean you still don't know how to use the hand on your computer.

1085
02:16:27.700 --> 02:16:32.889
Clark Brown: I have a I have a problem with my computer keeping my hand up, and and

1086
02:16:33.219 --> 02:16:36.289
Clark Brown: I've talked with it, Guy, about it, and I can't get it worked out.

1087
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Clark Brown: These are my comments. I have the impression that nobody on the board has seen the Ccnrs or the building permits.

1088
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Clark Brown: If the Cc. Andrs and the building permits, do provide that only paddle, wall lines and nets and facilities can be used on these courts, then I think this motion is very well is very well taken. On the other hand, if the

1089
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Clark Brown: Cc. Andrs in the permits. Do not say that then we're in the position of favoring one group of ah of athletes over another group of athletes, and that may very well be appropriate for the reasons that many people have voice. But it's something I think we should know.

1090
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Clark Brown: We vote on this, and it would be very easy to attach the or to make these Ccnrs and the building permits attachments

1091
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Clark Brown: this motion, and then continue the motion, and then

1092
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Clark Brown: look at these Cc. And arms, and look out the building permits before we act. Thank you, Clark. Um! Does anybody else have a hand up

1093
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jim murez: if nobody else has their hand up at this point i'm going to allow the last speaker to be mikkel so he can answer some of these issues. Um, Michelle, you want to go ahead,

1094
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Michael: sure, so i'll clarify a couple of things so on the ocean front. Why, this isn't good ocean for a walk.

1095
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Michael: Um! I got this, but somewhat late like this was somewhat rushed. Um! I tried to coordinate with um with Jim Robb. I mean. Honestly, he only had a couple of days notice. So you know, trying to rope in. I don't know how many people are on his committee, for an agendized meeting was just sort of not feasible, but a few. I I think two or three committee members from Ocean Front Walk were at

1096
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Michael: the land use meeting, so it's not as if they totally like it. Just sailed by them. The other

1097
02:18:36.320 --> 02:18:47.359
Michael: comment I response I had to a comment was, This is not the funding motion, So I think that was more as this question that one's coming up next

1098
02:18:47.440 --> 02:18:51.480
Michael: the the last thing I' on um,

1099
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Michael: and the question of Ah Clar, Cc. And r is So we're not talking about right. I haven't seen recorded covenants on the land. There are conditions of approval for the Cdp. That is what the Paddle Ball Tennis Association is hanging their hat on here. Um, but I I mean Larry can correct me if i'm wrong. But I don't believe any covenants have actually been reported on the properties. So this is, we're just talking about conditions of approval

1100
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Michael: uh going back to

1101
02:19:22.549 --> 02:19:39.420
Michael: um the coastal development permit. And then, I believe, also, when there was a the addition of I think it was three courts also there for paddle tennis.

1102
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Michael: At the time there was no such thing as pickable, i'm. Assuming, so Peloton was, of course, the only thing they had in mind. But you

1103
02:19:47.690 --> 02:19:49.980
Michael: those were linked in

1104
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Michael: the land use and planning file that was heard earlier this month.

1105
02:19:56.940 --> 02:19:58.590
Michael: It all those are to them in documents.

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Jim Robb: Yeah, all the relevant. I don't understand. Um: Okay? Well, um, Jim, I gave you a chance to raise your hand earlier. You waited until after everybody else spoke. I wanted you to really do it beforehand, so you could make a comment that wasn't based on something else. You seemed to always wait till the end. I wish you would participate the way that we're organizing this, but i'll give you to my computer.

1107
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Jim Robb: I like it. It's always Jim. It's always something every time it's always something. You go ahead now and speak. Okay.

1108
02:20:27.580 --> 02:20:30.590
Jim Robb: You want me to speak or no. You go right ahead, Jim.

1109
02:20:30.600 --> 02:20:45.789
Jim Robb: Well, I had. My computer was having a problem, so Vicky had to put me back in, first of all. Second of all. Yes, Ah, Michael did talk to us, and I said as many people as I could to the, to his meeting. So my question and point of content is,

1110
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Jim Robb: if this um is approved through the Vnc. Now do I need to push it through ocean, front, walk, or is it done? Deal, and it's done, and I can change my my agenda.

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jim murez: If you're asking the question, I think you can always put anything on your agenda you want,

1112
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Jim Robb: if it's something that the Vnc. Has already heard you. You can't use exactly the same wording. You could use exactly the same motion. There's There is a rule, I believe, in the standing rules. It says something about you have to wait a year before it can be exactly the same motion. But if you wanted to alter it, to to come up with some other way of wording something similar that it wasn't exactly the same. You probably could.

1113
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jim murez: But I I think the point is is that we're trying to either say yes or no, whether there's a legal reason, a recorded covenant or not, I think we've heard from the community of pickle ball players, and the things been there since the nineteen sixty S.

1114
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Jim Robb: You know I I play, I play I I I think, at this point you're probably ready to take a vote unless somebody else wants to have a last second comment on it.

1115
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Clark Brown: I have a question of Mikhail,

1116
02:21:52.370 --> 02:21:53.660
Michael: Sure, Clark.

1117
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Clark Brown: Uh, thanks, Matel. Have you actually seen these uh conditions of approval?

1118
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Clark Brown: I have. Okay. And they do provide that these facilities are for paddle wall and the facilities that they describe are paddle wall facilities,

1119
02:22:06.850 --> 02:22:09.430
Clark Brown: panel tennis. But yes, yeah. Paddle tennis.

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Clark Brown: Okay, that's

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Clark Brown: Thank you.

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jim murez: Okay. Let's take a vote.

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jim murez: No more discussion during the vote. I'm going to vote. Yes,

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jim murez: Melissa.

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jim murez: Yes, Jay,

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jay : yes,

1127
02:22:25.840 --> 02:22:27.679
jim murez: Vicki. Yes,

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02:22:29.300 --> 02:22:30.480
Bruno Hernandez: yes.

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jim murez: See, Ma,

1130
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Sima: i'm going to abstain because I was not a part of the discussion. My apologies Thank you, Nico.

1131
02:22:39.970 --> 02:22:41.509
Nico Ruderman: I'm also abstaining

1132
02:22:42.740 --> 02:22:45.350
Jim Robb: Jim Robb,

1133
02:22:45.850 --> 02:22:54.440
Jason Sugars: Jason sugars Yes, ally, ally, just as lost audio. She texted me her boat, and it's a Yes,

1134
02:22:55.570 --> 02:22:57.240
jim murez: um.

1135
02:22:57.810 --> 02:23:00.139
Michael: So do we allow proxy voting.

1136
02:23:00.220 --> 02:23:01.330
jay : No,

1137
02:23:01.340 --> 02:23:03.479
jim murez: now we're not supposed to do that.

1138
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jim murez: Okay? Well,

1139
02:23:08.560 --> 02:23:09.760
jim murez: coming up,

1140
02:23:10.190 --> 02:23:12.700
jim murez: she's in eligible. She's not here.

1141
02:23:12.860 --> 02:23:14.489
jim murez: Can we get her back in here.

1142
02:23:14.500 --> 02:23:25.159
jim murez: No, she's having zoom issues. She's listening on her phone and watching on her on her computer. So if if she's star nine's, I think she could raise her hand.

1143
02:23:26.650 --> 02:23:29.849
Vicki Halliday: Um, ally, did you hear that?

1144
02:23:29.870 --> 02:23:37.659
jim murez: I'll continue to nine? Is Star nine? I will continue to take the vote and come back to her. Oh, Allie has her hand raised?

1145
02:23:38.660 --> 02:23:40.320
jim murez: You want to unmute her

1146
02:23:42.500 --> 02:23:44.359
Vicki Halliday: alley? Go ahead

1147
02:23:49.500 --> 02:23:50.750
Vicki Halliday: all right.

1148
02:23:51.070 --> 02:23:52.560
Vicki Halliday: We need your vote.

1149
02:23:55.070 --> 02:23:56.289
jim murez: Is she unmuted?

1150
02:23:56.300 --> 02:23:57.090
Vicki Halliday: Yes,

1151
02:23:57.100 --> 02:23:57.990
jim murez: okay

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muted.

1153
02:24:00.900 --> 02:24:03.490
Vicki Halliday: I've asked her to unmute. That's all I can do.

1154
02:24:03.500 --> 02:24:04.340
jim murez: Yeah,

1155
02:24:05.920 --> 02:24:12.309
jim murez: texting me like crazy. Let's just continue. How do you vote? Yes, that it won't work.

1156
02:24:13.160 --> 02:24:14.490
jim murez: Kai, How do you vote

1157
02:24:14.500 --> 02:24:18.109
jim murez: I have to abstain for this one. Okay,

1158
02:24:18.690 --> 02:24:19.750
jim murez: Mike,

1159
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Mike Bravo: I will vote. Yes, sol it out.

1160
02:24:23.000 --> 02:24:25.180
jim murez: Abstain Who?

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02:24:25.920 --> 02:24:26.990
jim murez: Cj:

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02:24:27.000 --> 02:24:28.039
CJ Cole: Yes,

1163
02:24:29.170 --> 02:24:30.800
jim murez: um, Robert.

1164
02:24:31.540 --> 02:24:32.670
robertthibodeau: Yes,

1165
02:24:32.930 --> 02:24:34.820
Clark Brown: Clark. Yes,

1166
02:24:35.100 --> 02:24:36.330
jim murez: mikkel

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02:24:36.360 --> 02:24:37.500
Michael: down.

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02:24:39.890 --> 02:24:51.190
jim murez: Um! Did Allie make it back? No, okay. So this is it for the night. This is her situation for the rest of the night.

1169
02:24:51.200 --> 02:24:51.990
jim murez: Okay,

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02:24:52.000 --> 02:24:58.000
jim murez: um. The boat carries eleven, one, four, zero, one.

1171
02:24:59.100 --> 02:25:01.119
jim murez: So the motion passed.

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02:25:02.700 --> 02:25:04.130
jim murez: Um

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02:25:04.500 --> 02:25:08.060
jim murez: next. Item completely different.

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02:25:08.650 --> 02:25:10.550
jim murez: Um.

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02:25:12.940 --> 02:25:14.969
jim murez: So this is number thirty.

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02:25:16.150 --> 02:25:19.100
melissadiner: Can you read that vote? Count again.

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02:25:19.610 --> 02:25:34.460
jim murez: Yeah, it's part of the minutes, but it's uh seventeen people voted there were eleven yeses one no four abstentions zero recusals and one ineligible.

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02:25:37.060 --> 02:25:38.510
jim murez: Um

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02:25:39.470 --> 02:25:42.779
jim murez: Michelle, You want to read the motion and then be the maker

1180
02:25:45.720 --> 02:25:47.089
I need to pull up up.

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02:25:47.100 --> 02:25:50.070
Michael: Uh sorry I got to pull up myself. It's too small on there.

1182
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Michael: Okay, the Vnc. Recommends the Venice be travel tennis, Historical Committee will be notified of and allowed to participate in, or at a minimum haven't put into any contemplated projects affecting

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Michael: Ah! The Venice Beach Pal Tennis courts, including refencing, resurfacing of the courts Installation of benches, bleachers, waterfalls, and greenery, ah! Two will be given, and that was one two. We'll be given an opportunity to participate in the build. The bidding process for any such work including seeking qualified contractors getting cost-effective contracts and ensuring that the highest quality

1184
02:26:30.520 --> 02:26:38.380
Michael: work is provided, and three will be given an opportunity to assist in or provide input and the financing of any such broad effects.

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02:26:38.880 --> 02:26:43.350
Michael: Okay, And you're the maker of the motion going guys make her of the motion.

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02:26:43.360 --> 02:26:47.389
robertthibodeau: Isn't this kind of like way outside our purview here like off,

1187
02:26:47.400 --> 02:26:48.830
robertthibodeau: i'll snack it in.

1188
02:26:48.840 --> 02:26:50.280
jim murez: Thank you.

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02:26:50.290 --> 02:26:54.470
robertthibodeau: Isn't. This way outside of the bounds. Hold on just one second.

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02:26:56.220 --> 02:27:05.099
Jim Robb: So let us now understand, because I do have a couple of questions about the motion itself before we move on to public comment.

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02:27:05.200 --> 02:27:22.419
jim murez: Um! Who is the Venice Beach Paddle tennis, Historic committee. We don't have such a committee, so i'm wondering who that is up above. It Sounds like It's Larry on the behalf of them. But is this an official

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02:27:23.010 --> 02:27:24.820
jim murez: organization,

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02:27:25.710 --> 02:27:40.509
Michael: I mean. I don't know to what the extent they have to be, but you know It's a group. They're they're put it. Proposing this this came out of, and I mean Larry's going to have time to to present this. But

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02:27:40.520 --> 02:27:59.559
Michael: he engaged with the with Parks and Iraq, and discovered that the refencing, and like part of the restoration of these courts, that that had become sort of erect over the last few decades. But the the

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02:27:59.570 --> 02:28:17.269
Michael: the city is spending an Astrid where the Department of Parks and Iraq is is spending an astronomical amount of money, resurfacing and refencing them and putting in water funds. They're also going to do more work that has not been awarded yet in a bid. And so, rather than

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02:28:17.280 --> 02:28:28.230
Michael: you know, blindly repeating this process again, this committee wants to step in and take control over, or at least work with

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02:28:28.590 --> 02:28:34.550
Michael: the powers to be to find a more cost-effective version, or perhaps the

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Michael: ah finance it themselves in a way that then they could, you know, avoid the sort of bidding process that goes through these government contracts. And then i'm guessing also tying to the last motion. You know there would be more strings attached to the uses or more restrictions.

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Michael: Okay, we can't vote on this, though we need to talk to Ivan unless the first sentence is changed, that the Bnc. Request we will be notified like we can't request an outside committee that doesn't exist in my Dnc. To be notified and vote on it. I mean, Ivan. I would like to know his position on that.

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jim murez: Well, I don't know that we have a committee that they could do it, and having a committee would have to. You can't put the cart before the horse. Have a recommendation to a committee that doesn't exist.

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02:29:23.200 --> 02:29:25.389
Michael: We have that's what it is. This is not a

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02:29:25.400 --> 02:29:29.309
Michael: hold on Hold on! This is not a Vnc. Committee.

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02:29:30.800 --> 02:29:33.639
Michael: There are committees outside of our world.

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jim murez: So what we're doing is we're forward to another committee. What we're doing is, we're asking the city to consider this community group. This committee, whoever they are, to be included in the process. And that's really all we're doing. We would be making a recommendation

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02:29:51.910 --> 02:29:57.419
jim murez: to ask the city to include these people in whatever future

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02:29:58.000 --> 02:29:59.990
Michael: things are done there.

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02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:07.190
jim murez: Yeah. So I think we can probably do that. Let's get a presentation from Larry. We said we would give him three minutes.

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02:30:07.200 --> 02:30:10.199
jim murez: Yeah, and that will

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02:30:10.400 --> 02:30:13.380
jim murez: perhaps clarify some of this. And you

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02:30:13.800 --> 02:30:17.140
jim murez: if we have questions after he gives us the

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02:30:17.460 --> 02:30:34.010
jim murez: can. You ask Ivan first. If we can even do that, I just want to know, before we we do that we have. We have done things like this before, where we've endorsed a particular something happening in the community That's not part of the Bnc.

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02:30:36.080 --> 02:30:43.179
jim murez: I mean. I don't think there's anything special about that. We've just said. You know this. We believe this is a good thing. You,

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jim murez: I don't think there's a problem with that

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02:30:47.200 --> 02:30:50.549
jim murez: Ivan. Do you want to weigh in really quickly? Ten seconds.

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02:30:50.730 --> 02:30:52.690
jim murez: Is there a problem with it? Are you been online?

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02:30:52.700 --> 02:30:53.750
Ivan: Um,

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02:30:53.780 --> 02:30:57.090
Ivan: I don't know if we have the authority

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02:30:57.570 --> 02:31:00.260
Ivan: to recommend to the city

1219
02:31:00.330 --> 02:31:01.860
Ivan: that this group

1220
02:31:02.030 --> 02:31:05.520
Ivan: to be included in the in the negotiations.

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02:31:10.100 --> 02:31:17.359
Ivan: You know they're very impressive. I i'm not putting them down. We haven't vetted them. We don't know who they are. But

1222
02:31:17.370 --> 02:31:30.679
Ivan: well, that's part of the

1223
02:31:30.890 --> 02:31:33.629
Ivan: Let them come in and form an ad hoc committee,

1224
02:31:34.490 --> 02:31:46.680
Ivan: and then it would be one of our committees. They could share it or whatever there would be an official committee.

1225
02:31:46.840 --> 02:31:49.990
Ivan: Just it exists outside of our Vnc Bubble,

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02:31:50.000 --> 02:31:57.380
Ivan: right? Of course. They Yeah, of course they can. I mean They're a legitimate group, you know. We just don't know who they are.

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02:31:57.550 --> 02:32:13.279
Larry Nagler: May I provide context? No, not yet. Um, I think Ivan. In the past we've done things like recommended things that the Vnc. Was not necessarily directly involved in, but believed that they were a good thing to do.

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02:32:14.250 --> 02:32:15.900
Ivan: Well, of course,

1229
02:32:22.890 --> 02:32:30.780
Ivan: but we can. We can create. We can have them create a committee separately, independently. If we wanted to. I mean it would be Yeah,

1230
02:32:30.790 --> 02:32:51.870
Ivan: we can certainly do that. But I don't think there's any problem of thus making a recommendation to the city that there's a group of people that feel like they they are very involved in the sport. They're very involved in the court. They're very involved in the day-to-day stuff. And They want to be included in the process of the same. If the city doesn't know they're not going to

1231
02:32:53.030 --> 02:32:55.689
Ivan: that. That was my opinion. It's your call.

1232
02:32:55.700 --> 02:32:57.490
jim murez: Thank you. Okay,

1233
02:32:57.500 --> 02:33:03.049
jim murez: let's let Larry have his three minutes. Now

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Larry Nagler: go ahead, Larry. Okay, Thank you very much.

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Larry Nagler: I represented um a tennis and do a tennis court builder, and I I called him up and I said, how much should it cost to put up fences around these eleven courts? And this is a guy that plays here.

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Larry Nagler: He told me it should cost no more than forty five thousand to sixty thousand dollars to put up fences for the eleven courts.

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02:33:30.350 --> 02:33:34.169
Larry Nagler: So I said, Okay, let's double it. Let's say a hundred thousand.

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02:33:34.360 --> 02:33:47.469
Larry Nagler: I also asked him how much would it cost to fully resurface these courts, these eleven courts, and he said, if it was done privately it should be four thousand five hundred dollars per court. He does these all day long.

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02:33:47.550 --> 02:33:55.280
Larry Nagler: So eleven courts times four thousand five hundred dollars is forty, nine thousand five hundred. So even if you double that, it's one hundred thousand.

1240
02:33:55.640 --> 02:34:09.820
Larry Nagler: So I made a proposal to the city in writing, in which we said, give us an opportunity. This is what it should cost. Give me an opportunity to raise the money, and we'll do it ourselves.

1241
02:34:09.840 --> 02:34:23.199
Larry Nagler: And I pointed out that On two prior occasions there was precedent for the Panel Tenants Association to have raised the money to resurf the courts, and those two occasions are exhibits

1242
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Larry Nagler: to to your to your document here tonight, as, by the way, are the conditions that were discussed earlier there in the second attachment, and I made a proposal that we would try to get

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Larry Nagler: uh benches for them, and uh, and do all of this, and we couldn't get anybody to talk to us. And then I found out that a a contract was let for five hundred thousand dollars,

1244
02:34:49.950 --> 02:35:01.319
Larry Nagler: just to do the refencing with a condition that they can go up to one hundred thousand more, or six hundred thousand. So if you compare our costs, which are forty, five to sixty

1245
02:35:01.900 --> 02:35:11.499
Larry Nagler: for fencing to their cost, which is five hundred to six hundred thousand. We offered to help do this for them, and we couldn't get anybody's attention.

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02:35:11.510 --> 02:35:20.310
Larry Nagler: Now I know that the Department of Recreation and I sent this to the Department of Recreation and parts that was sent by one of the people that's associated with me in this group.

1247
02:35:20.450 --> 02:35:22.080
Larry Nagler: And um

1248
02:35:22.380 --> 02:35:25.049
Larry Nagler: we want to save the city money.

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Larry Nagler: We want to have wonderful facilities, but no one will meet and discuss with us. Therefore the request for the motion. We would like brand new courts. Now they've gone ahead, and they've done the They pulled out the fences,

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Larry Nagler: and now they put in new fences. So, in order to reserve the courts. It's almost impossible to do so. It's chaos. So all I ask is that you talk to the city and recommend that they talk to us at work with us, so we can make things better for everyone and have good new facilities. Thank you for your time. I very much appreciate it.

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jim murez: Thank you. So let me. Let me just start by clarifying a few things. First of all, if this motion passes, it will be up to the maker of the motion to send the letter based on what the letter,

1252
02:36:18.160 --> 02:36:41.820
jim murez: What? What is approved? I'm certainly not going to start chasing after record parts, because I'm. The president of the group to go and find the right person to get you involved. So you should know that all we will do is write a letter of endorsement. We can send it to the city, but that's as far as it goes. Also, i'm curious before we go on to public comment,

1253
02:36:42.080 --> 02:36:53.629
Larry Nagler: did you consider prevailing wage, and the wage that the city takes for project administration in your bids that you made

1254
02:36:53.640 --> 02:37:07.469
Larry Nagler: We We we did not. But um! I asked. Ah, the the contractor and I also, by the way, represent other contractors in the tennis court construction business, and they told me that you could double

1255
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Larry Nagler: the private cost. So, instead of forty, five to sixty thousand, if you went to ninety to one hundred and twenty for the fencing to take into account prevailing wage, and if you doubled

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Larry Nagler: the cost of of resurfacing from forty, nine to one hundred that should more than cover the prevailing wage, so take one hundred thousand versus six hundred thousand for just the refencing, and you can see the dilemma

1257
02:37:36.210 --> 02:37:44.390
jim murez: all right vaguely. Um Vicki, unless we have any other questions from the Committee People about the

1258
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Vicki Halliday: jay has his hand up.

1259
02:37:46.100 --> 02:37:57.130
jay : Okay, Jay, do you want to clarify? I I you know of just it is. We're just asking questions of clarification based all right. So the clarification.

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jay : I have no idea who this committee is, what their qualifications are. Obviously it's somebody who represents people who do work. So we have to think about an ethical issue here as well, you know. Are we backing somebody who says he represents an organization

1261
02:38:16.560 --> 02:38:28.890
jay : that He says he represents people who do the work in trying to promote getting work for his clients. I'm really concerned about that. It should be a committee that this should be committee comment.

1262
02:38:28.900 --> 02:38:33.689
jay : This should be comment. When we have committee comment, we still take public comment on this.

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robertthibodeau: No, he's at. He's asking a question. I'm asking clarification because we're talking about spending a lot of time on an issue for something that's not even our committee. Okay? And we're being asked to support

1264
02:38:47.290 --> 02:38:54.049
jay : lot of things in there where I'm. Hearing the fences already down and paid for. So that's a moved point.

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02:38:54.120 --> 02:39:04.939
jay : Okay, we did this at stone a park, and the city came in and did it, and it didn't cost the half a million dollar for the fence. Has anyone seen this contract for the fence

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jay : is that you know we have no data. We have nothing backed up showing us that there's a half a million dollar contract. Can you? J: Can you put that into the form of a question, Larry? Do we have a copy of a contract that was left?

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02:39:22.340 --> 02:39:24.270
Vicki Halliday: Let me allow him to talk,

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02:39:24.590 --> 02:39:26.669
Vicki Halliday: Larry, you can talk again,

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02:39:28.370 --> 02:39:36.480
Larry Nagler: attached a copy of the refencing contract. It's the third attachment to this agenda.

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Larry Nagler: If you go to the end of the agenda,

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Larry Nagler: you'll see seven attachments,

1272
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jay : you know. The third attachment is the five hundred thousand dollar contract.

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02:39:51.220 --> 02:39:53.989
Larry Nagler: Um, go to the very end,

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Larry Nagler: page seven, page six.

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Larry Nagler: And now you open up the third attachment if you would.

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Larry Nagler: That's the that's not the third. That's the

1277
02:40:12.430 --> 02:40:17.779
Larry Nagler: no second it is it is i'm sorry. Forgive me. It is, skim down,

1278
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Larry Nagler: go down the page. Okay, Stop you, Pat, you pass.

1279
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Larry Nagler: Stop! Paragraph two.

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jay : That's the five hundred. Now go down a little bit further where the scope. Where is attachment? One with the scope of work?

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Larry Nagler: You'll come You'll come to that. You'll come to that. Go down to this slowly slowly

1282
02:40:45.970 --> 02:40:52.840
Larry Nagler: and somewhere. It says, the the hundred thousand. I don't even see it here. But here's the projects.

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02:40:53.170 --> 02:41:01.749
jay : Removal, existing fencing around panel, tennis courts, installation of new fennis metal tennis, or it's a replacement of ten drinking. Found it's about. Okay,

1284
02:41:04.440 --> 02:41:07.389
Larry Nagler: Was there any? Was there any breakdown of that at all?

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02:41:07.400 --> 02:41:22.349
Larry Nagler: Not a not a thing. There's the contingency just below It's: Yeah, it's project funding the second Paragraph: Okay, let's let let's. Let's stop the discussion. And notice by the way, that the park fees are forty, sixty, one hundred remote.

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jim murez: Um,

1287
02:41:27.510 --> 02:41:30.529
jim murez: Let's let's take public comment on this. Now, Vicki:

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02:41:30.770 --> 02:41:36.589
Vicki Halliday: Okay, Can you let's see my end while i'm doing this. Yeah. Why, don't you go ahead?

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Let's see if I can get back up here.

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Nick Antonicello: We're being bypassed. I was at that meeting that the chill held. I was one of the members of ocean front that was there.

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Nick Antonicello: The outrageous costs around this project are criminal.

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Nick Antonicello: You're criminal. What you're doing, and the fact that the election part walked to me, whose only obligation is to deal with things in Russia for war didn't hear. This.

1293
02:42:09.020 --> 02:42:20.409
Nick Antonicello: This needs to go before ocean. Don't walk in the appropriate fashion. Do we get this right? Because to bypass us is completely to ignore the whole committee's system.

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02:42:31.810 --> 02:42:36.210
jim murez: Thank you, Nick. Thanks, Nick. Uh go, puppet. Go ahead, please.

1295
02:42:42.590 --> 02:42:43.940
Vicki Halliday: The puppet,

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02:42:50.000 --> 02:42:52.900
Vicki Halliday: Mr. Goat Puppet last call.

1297
02:42:56.320 --> 02:42:57.990
Vicki Halliday: Okay,

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02:42:58.590 --> 02:43:03.519
Vicki Halliday: Moving right along. Snee, Gregson, Go ahead.

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Esme gregson: Can you hear me? Hi as me, Gregson. Um, I just wanted to point out that um Larry um, he doesn't need me to speak for him, but as a committee member, we formed a committee because um we needed to uh do something about the very dangerous fences that were

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02:43:26.390 --> 02:43:42.249
Esme gregson: full of holes, and that people were in likely to get um injured on. And so that's why the committee was formed, and that's why we brought this. These motions in front of you guys to let you guys know that things are very difficult right now in the courts,

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Esme gregson: and so I I just wanted to um say that. But Larry does not. Is not. He's working really for free for art. This committee that just cares about the paddle tennis courts

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02:43:53.420 --> 02:44:02.890
Esme gregson: he doesn't. I don't think he represents any like formally represents any court builders. He's just helping us try to save our courts. Thanks. That's all I had to say.

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02:44:03.590 --> 02:44:09.700
Vicki Halliday: Okay, Okay, thank you. Um, coloni. Go ahead, please.

1304
02:44:11.860 --> 02:44:15.390
Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): I am here a lot of passionate,

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02:44:15.400 --> 02:44:28.400
Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): a lot of passion towards the game of paddle, tennis, battle, ball, board, and I urge this body to tread lightly. I am Hawaiian

1306
02:44:28.410 --> 02:44:35.750
Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): when I here of annexing public lands for us

1307
02:44:36.030 --> 02:44:42.169
Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): more control to to favor a special interest group, I

1308
02:44:42.350 --> 02:45:10.649
Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): my ears perk up, and considering I've heard. Others testified that there have been issues between paddle borders and ah, paddle tennis and picket pickleball players. There are already heated discussions, and it seems like we have a special interest group That's very passionate. That's trying to seed way. Too much control over public lands, and I urge,

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02:45:10.660 --> 02:45:12.849
Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): push back. Thank you.

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02:45:13.320 --> 02:45:17.000
Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Kalani. Um! How long do you want to go ahead, please?

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Helen Fallon: Well, I don't agree with colliding. I think it's nice to hear that there's people who are really concerned about fiscal responsibility and our tax dollar beings. And effectively, I think the problem here is the motion is way, too detailed in the way that you lie but A, B and C should just be

1312
02:45:34.450 --> 02:45:36.190
Helen Fallon: making a motion

1313
02:45:36.200 --> 02:45:43.370
Helen Fallon: to support the idea that parks and wreck work with groups such as this, and name the group

1314
02:45:43.560 --> 02:45:56.279
Helen Fallon: that the Bnc wants the parks and wreck to improve and restore these courts for Powell tennis in a fiscally responsible manner. I don't think it's appropriate for the Bnc.

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02:45:56.320 --> 02:46:11.629
Helen Fallon: They all sorts of really detailed demands on how that should be done, just want to. So you just need to say that you want this group included in the discussions, and let them fight for how much power they can get in those discussions that's between them. And

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Helen Fallon: thank you so amend the motion and move on. Thank you, Helen.

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Vicki Halliday: Um Erica Moore. Go ahead, please.

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Well, Helen just said it perfectly.

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02:46:26.560 --> 02:46:45.719
Erica Moore: I I agree with that, and I support this because I was also on that meeting, and I heard it. Um! This spoken about at length, and it is not something where they're just interested in trying to get certain contractors. A dog talk about gross spending, I mean. It was ridiculous.

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02:46:45.730 --> 02:46:48.449
Erica Moore: So I think that it is important to um

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02:46:48.650 --> 02:46:52.330
Erica Moore: to have a collaboration with this group. Who

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02:46:52.420 --> 02:46:58.080
Erica Moore: and I don't think it's It's something that's excluding others. That's not what it's about. Thank you so much.

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02:46:58.200 --> 02:47:01.159
Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Erica. Um,

1324
02:47:01.220 --> 02:47:03.450
Vicki Halliday: Lisa Redmond. Go ahead, please.

1325
02:47:05.400 --> 02:47:20.899
Lisa Redmond: Um, Yeah. Again. I'm going to support the way Helen put it. This motion should not be on the agenda right now as written as the way it is written is not within the purview of the Vnc. To make those demands and those asks

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02:47:20.910 --> 02:47:38.259
Lisa Redmond: Um. And then, Secondly, I never understand why we always give priority to lupic applicants and go out of order and give that time when there are probably many, many, many people and stakeholders who are also online right now, waiting for Item twenty, seven,

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02:47:38.350 --> 02:47:41.589
Lisa Redmond: and their time is just as important as a single applicant.

1328
02:47:41.600 --> 02:47:46.180
Lisa Redmond: Thank you. Thank you um, Scottie Friedman, Go ahead.

1329
02:47:47.480 --> 02:48:06.049
scotty freedman: Yeah, I've been invent a beach resident for thirty years or thirty years playing paddle since forty four years. The courts are just absolutely able to see that very happy to see that happen. But I think whoever made the decision to okay, five hundred to six hundred thousand dollars for my tax dollars to be spent on panelists offenses

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02:48:06.060 --> 02:48:18.499
scotty freedman: when it should cost a hundred grand like, Larry said. I think this person needs to be held accountable. I think we need to come together as a community. We need to investigate this, and we need to find out what person made this decision on,

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02:48:18.700 --> 02:48:23.080
scotty freedman: you know, spending five or six hundred thousand dollars on fences

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scotty freedman: for the penalties, for it's ever long overdue. I mean, there was so much liability out there. It was crazy. I'm surprised they didn't get sued for millions of dollars. I always tore my arm off my belt and us one day at a tournament, but at the end of the day I do think we need to come together as a community and really find out what's going on with this five hundred to six hundred thousand dollars, whether it's corrupt, whether somebody's taking money or favorite people that they know

1333
02:48:46.130 --> 02:48:48.660
scotty freedman: anyways who wants to join me.

1334
02:48:49.280 --> 02:48:50.670
Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

1335
02:48:50.680 --> 02:48:52.150
Vicki Halliday: Um.

1336
02:48:52.190 --> 02:48:54.810
Vicki Halliday: Christine lay to go ahead, please.

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02:48:55.770 --> 02:49:12.680
christinelee: Hi! Again. I'm Christine from Popcottle, Venice. I just wanted to comment that everybody on this board that helped Larry is working with Larry is. We are all a bunch of volunteers. We're not really special interest people. We're definitely not

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02:49:12.690 --> 02:49:41.169
christinelee: lobbies. We're just passionate battle players. And um. One of the things that's been hard to be heard from. Reckon Park is that there's no pad board. So that's Park and record members like they're not having elections anymore. So it's it's very hard to put forth. We want, for instance, during the pandemic our bleachers got thrown away, and also now that they're redoing the fences and the we're surfing the courts. They're getting rid of all the benches, but we don't have enough money for benches,

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02:49:41.180 --> 02:49:55.919
christinelee: so we want to fundraise for that. We want trees. We just want to make the park better, and that's what we want. We want a collaboration with wreck and park, and that's all it is, it's very simple, and please tell us what we need to do in order to have street credit,

1340
02:49:57.020 --> 02:49:58.650
Vicki Halliday: and i'm saying,

1341
02:49:58.740 --> 02:50:00.170
Vicki Halliday: Um!

1342
02:50:00.300 --> 02:50:03.069
Vicki Halliday: We'll try goat puppet once again.

1343
02:50:03.360 --> 02:50:04.630
Vicki Halliday: The puppet,

1344
02:50:09.130 --> 02:50:13.340
Goat Puppet: and you know those courts have been run down. They look like,

1345
02:50:14.820 --> 02:50:17.520
Goat Puppet: and it's time to make them pretty again,

1346
02:50:17.850 --> 02:50:27.989
Goat Puppet: and even the puppet's mortal enemy like Louis Ba. And even agreed with good puppet that these courts need to be rebuilt.

1347
02:50:30.000 --> 02:50:49.010
Goat Puppet: We waste money on thirty four million dollars to Kobe Bryant's widow because somebody took photos. But you're arguing about a half a million dollars that tens of thousands of people are going to use over the next twenty years.

1348
02:50:49.760 --> 02:50:50.989
Goat Puppet: That's a good analogy.

1349
02:50:51.000 --> 02:50:51.640
Goat Puppet: Yes,

1350
02:50:51.840 --> 02:50:54.630
Goat Puppet: you're fighting over breadcrumbs,

1351
02:50:55.660 --> 02:50:57.490
Goat Puppet: so go pick it close

1352
02:50:57.500 --> 02:50:59.249
Goat Puppet: that we spend

1353
02:50:59.610 --> 02:51:02.810
Goat Puppet: one hundred thousand dollars on this boond, or go to

1354
02:51:02.820 --> 02:51:06.480
Goat Puppet: give James what he wants. A Union

1355
02:51:06.550 --> 02:51:09.890
Goat Puppet: minimum wage contract as a livable way.

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02:51:09.900 --> 02:51:16.870
Goat Puppet: Old puppet um Two more speakers, Steve, Go ahead, please.

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02:51:17.680 --> 02:51:30.770
Steve (Los Angeles): Steve Gumflow again with the Pal Tennis community and this historical committee we form this committee in December to discuss issues like

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Steve (Los Angeles): Scott Friedman mentioned with the fences. They were very dangerous. There were holes throughout them, and we got together and helped pass the fences with these wonderful ah signs that we we put out on our own ah helping to keep the courts safe. So we're just very concerned with having the courts safe, good fences, and I want to commend the city on getting the money for that.

1359
02:51:56.750 --> 02:52:09.330
Steve (Los Angeles): Ah, so we're happy with that. But if we would have been involved in the process and been able to communicate with the city. We could have avoided the problem with

1360
02:52:09.450 --> 02:52:27.159
Steve (Los Angeles): this this cost issue, and the fence is being put in now in the wrong way. So resurfacing will take more time. I understand my time is up. I want to thank the committee, and we just want to be involved to help with the decision making. Thank you,

1361
02:52:27.210 --> 02:52:29.560
Vicki Halliday: Chris. Go ahead, please.

1362
02:52:32.630 --> 02:52:39.339
kris: But it isn't the simple solution it to get a third estimate from somebody.

1363
02:52:39.450 --> 02:52:41.350
kris: Thank you. That's all I want to say.

1364
02:52:42.230 --> 02:52:43.459
Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

1365
02:52:48.220 --> 02:52:51.080
jim murez: Okay, let's close public comment.

1366
02:52:51.640 --> 02:52:53.240
jim murez: Um,

1367
02:52:54.480 --> 02:52:57.919
jim murez: we have committee comment. We have several hands up.

1368
02:52:58.680 --> 02:53:04.449
jim murez: Let's start with Melissa, then J. Then chim rob than Solidar

1369
02:53:04.590 --> 02:53:06.259
jim murez: Melissa. Go ahead.

1370
02:53:06.480 --> 02:53:27.259
melissadiner: Uh, I just want to clarify for all of the passionate paddle tennis players that we're also volunteers to. So I appreciate their efforts, and in no way in discussing, supporting this particular motion I'm. Trying to take away from their efforts. We're just trying to understand if

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02:53:27.270 --> 02:53:44.400
melissadiner: making the motion in this way is within our purview. And then, secondly, I just want to say, I think, that if I were them I would maybe do what a lot of people do here which may not be news to you guys which is

1372
02:53:44.410 --> 02:54:14.130
melissadiner: like, do a public records request. See how this contract was awarded. Try and find out if there was a request for proposal. If there wasn't a request for proposal, why wasn't there a request for proposal? Is it in the purview of the city to just contract directly, and the contracts that they pick for these things. I believe they have to be on a certified list. I don't exactly know what the city, because I only have familiarity with the State on this.

1373
02:54:14.300 --> 02:54:40.670
melissadiner: But I think there's like a lot to unpack there that you guys can do and have a lot more quickness and speed and ability and hands on deck to do quicker than maybe we can do for you. That being said um, i'll. I'll support this, but we may also modify it in a way that our committee can keep trying to get transparent information on this Um, but not exactly where it is. So thank you.

1374
02:54:41.350 --> 02:54:43.940
jim murez: Thank you. Um, Jay, go ahead, please.

1375
02:54:44.250 --> 02:54:50.269
jay : Okay. So waste broad, and abuse is certainly within our purview.

1376
02:54:50.330 --> 02:54:53.020
jay : When the city is over. Spending

1377
02:54:53.990 --> 02:55:10.940
jay : What we don't have is comparable bids, and what we didn't do is what our bylaws say. So I I would move that this be remanded back to the Ocean Front Committee, the Boardwalk Committee to have them review it and ask that

1378
02:55:10.950 --> 02:55:17.700
jay : Larry and his committee go before that committee and bring with them actual

1379
02:55:17.850 --> 02:55:36.130
jay : bids, showing what it would cost to do comparable work. This is how much of the fence costs. This is how much water fountains cost with a new hydration system, you know. Lay it all out, and then, if the committee can recommend back to the Board

1380
02:55:36.180 --> 02:55:52.870
jay : a number of different ah motions anywhere from, you know. We request a copy of all all contracts, everything that was mentioned before through a Pra. We can request that in a committee letter or a board letter

1381
02:55:52.880 --> 02:55:59.809
jay : to see how this was put through and what they're paying, and we can also

1382
02:55:59.820 --> 02:56:13.159
jay : make a motion to go to the City controller under waste fraud and abuse, showing them a comparison of the monies that we think should be spent based on getting documentation from Larry,

1383
02:56:13.170 --> 02:56:32.250
jay : and having that compared to the contract that we get from, whether it's a pra, or whatever that request is. I would also say to Larry that you should go to the board of Commissioners of Wreck and Park,

1384
02:56:32.260 --> 02:56:35.849
jay : and bring the same documentation in front of them.

1385
02:56:35.860 --> 02:56:55.319
jay : So there's multifaceted ways to do this, but I think from our standpoint. Right now. This should be remanded back to the ocean. From what committee let them do that research. Get those numbers put together and bring us back a true case of waste fraud and abuse that we can prove, and then ask

1386
02:56:55.330 --> 02:57:13.710
jay : this demand, that the city actually do their job and investigate why a half a million dollars is going to be spent for a fence in ten mortar fountains when it may only cost a quarter of a million dollars. I don't know, and Jim brought up good points about, you know, livable wage, and you know all the other

1387
02:57:13.720 --> 02:57:20.620
jay : gimmicks that the city uses to pay people a lot of money, so that's my motion, and I would welcome a second to that. The

1388
02:57:20.950 --> 02:57:23.590
Vicki Halliday: Vicki i'll second it,

1389
02:57:23.600 --> 02:57:42.150
Jim Robb: hey? Maybe the I was your pro from what? Maybe we'd want to say something. So thanks very much, Jay: Yeah, I think, before before we make the actual motion to send it to the Ocean Front Walk Committee is the ocean for a Walk committee prepared to put together that kind of a

1390
02:57:43.200 --> 02:57:54.659
Jim Robb: I've got a I've got a group of about twelve very qualified people on my committee that are all eligible and able to help me out with this situation. So I would say, Yes, I would say

1391
02:57:54.670 --> 02:58:16.890
Jim Robb: it'd be nice for a lot of these motions that are being bypassed by the Ocean Front Walk Committee and going straight to the Bnc. Maybe maybe they should start directing him to us in our committee, since I'm. Begging for motions, and nobody gets anything to me, so I would be happy to hear any of these motions. I'd be happy to have Larry come talking

1392
02:58:16.900 --> 02:58:23.229
Jim Robb: also. Have Sonya there as well. So yeah, I would be happy to take a look at this motion.

1393
02:58:23.240 --> 02:58:52.089
Jim Robb: Okay, uh, Jim, do you think you can do that in a timely fashion? I know, in the last couple of ad cops last few months we've been sending stuff, and I've never seen a lot of day in the Bmc. So, Jim, I was. I was speaking I I just wanted to say that we have had outcom meetings and sent up to your committee, instead of coming to the board,

1394
02:58:52.100 --> 02:59:01.000
Jim Robb: ended up stabilizing on your agenda. I've taken care of all those, and I've said many things to add column over the last couple of months. That haven't got anything on the agenda.

1395
02:59:01.010 --> 02:59:03.690
Jim Robb: So thank you. Yes, i'll take a look at it.

1396
02:59:03.700 --> 02:59:08.189
jim murez: Okay, and you'll do that in a timely, because I know you didn't have a meeting last month. So are you going to have one this month

1397
02:59:08.200 --> 02:59:14.460
Jim Robb: as long as I. As long as I get to zoom for when I need it I will be happy to do it. On the twenty sixth of this month.

1398
02:59:14.890 --> 02:59:24.099
jay : Okay. So Jay is making a motion to remand to the ocean front, walk, committee or whatever,

1399
02:59:24.110 --> 02:59:29.210
Soledad Ursua: and Vicki seconded it. So I think we should just do that. I mean I agree as well

1400
02:59:30.780 --> 02:59:31.690
it you

1401
02:59:31.700 --> 02:59:36.249
Soledad Ursua: so, since it's already been seconded, I I believe we have to now go to a vote.

1402
02:59:37.980 --> 02:59:41.789
jim murez: Um, I don't know. Ivan. Do we take public comment on this?

1403
02:59:41.800 --> 02:59:57.040
Ivan: Yes, yeah, and then we vote. But yes, but but it The public comment needs to be limited just to whether or not to send it to the committee. Correct nothing about the merits of the motion. Thank you. Okay,

1404
02:59:57.050 --> 03:00:07.889
jim murez: Um Vicki. Do you want to go ahead? Okay. So we have three. You know what? I Because because we're going to limit this to to

1405
03:00:08.620 --> 03:00:15.559
jim murez: just the committee. I think what i'm going to do. If I can get underneath this stupid overlay. Hold on a second

1406
03:00:16.460 --> 03:00:23.659
jim murez: Um! Let me. I'm going to change the time to thirty seconds. I just don't want to listen to all of this all over again.

1407
03:00:24.480 --> 03:00:32.089
jim murez: People can say whether they object to the committee or not within thirty seconds, and that's plenty. Plenty of time.

1408
03:00:32.320 --> 03:00:34.190
jim murez: Where did the zoom call? Go?

1409
03:00:34.200 --> 03:00:38.290
melissadiner: Object to it being referred to ocean front, walk, committee or not

1410
03:00:38.300 --> 03:00:39.699
jim murez: correct.

1411
03:00:40.970 --> 03:00:47.120
jim murez: So let me reset the clock at thirty seconds. And, Vicki, you want to go ahead and run through those

1412
03:00:47.450 --> 03:01:05.559
jim murez: public comment Whether it should I? I understand that I don't think i'm announcing it. I'm. Announcing it to the public. Um! This is just whether or not it should or should not be referred back to committee at this point in the Ocean Prolog Committee.

1413
03:01:06.260 --> 03:01:08.639
Vicki Halliday: Okay, Kalani, Go ahead, please.

1414
03:01:12.490 --> 03:01:15.699
Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): I support sending it back to committee. Thank you.

1415
03:01:15.710 --> 03:01:19.000
Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Uh gut puppet. Go ahead, please.

1416
03:01:21.140 --> 03:01:22.340
Goat Puppet: Yes.

1417
03:01:22.410 --> 03:01:25.379
Goat Puppet: Oh, yeah, You're going to kiss up the J. Handle

1418
03:01:25.420 --> 03:01:26.690
Goat Puppet: all human.

1419
03:01:27.920 --> 03:01:34.690
Goat Puppet: I support you, Handles efforts to combat the bread and the prison sentences

1420
03:01:34.700 --> 03:01:38.990
Goat Puppet: facing our city Council. So Yes, yes, I'm. On G.

1421
03:01:39.090 --> 03:01:40.410
Goat Puppet: Those motion

1422
03:01:40.580 --> 03:01:41.490
Goat Puppet: proved.

1423
03:01:47.980 --> 03:01:49.880
Goat Puppet: Thank you so much.

1424
03:01:50.150 --> 03:01:51.689
Goat Puppet: Thank you.

1425
03:01:51.700 --> 03:01:54.010
Goat Puppet: Uh Erica. Go ahead, please,

1426
03:01:57.040 --> 03:01:58.210
Vicki Halliday: Erica.

1427
03:01:58.220 --> 03:02:04.549
Erica Moore: Hi! There I support this going to the Ocean Ocean Law Community. Thank you. Thank you.

1428
03:02:04.740 --> 03:02:08.159
Vicki Halliday: Um, Yolanda, Go ahead, please.

1429
03:02:08.730 --> 03:02:15.139
Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, I supported goods going back to the Ocean front Walk Committee. Thank you.

1430
03:02:15.590 --> 03:02:18.380
Vicki Halliday: Um, Lisa Redmond, Go ahead, please.

1431
03:02:20.230 --> 03:02:31.049
Lisa Redmond: I love how the Bnc. Is all about inefficiency, and the time we just waste it for something that should have been an ocean front walk committee to begin with. Please send it back. Thank you.

1432
03:02:32.730 --> 03:02:34.999
Vicki Halliday: Um.

1433
03:02:35.010 --> 03:02:38.490
Vicki Halliday: That. Oh, okay, Helen, go ahead, please.

1434
03:02:39.340 --> 03:02:46.550
Helen Fallon: I don't support sending a bad to committee. I think you guys have kind of missed the point here. They need an introduction to parks and wreck,

1435
03:02:46.590 --> 03:02:50.309
Helen Fallon: and that's really what they should have been asking for, and this should have been

1436
03:02:50.860 --> 03:02:55.100
Helen Fallon: very simple motion instead. How much time has been

1437
03:02:55.110 --> 03:02:58.119
Helen Fallon: going around in circles on this, and

1438
03:02:58.250 --> 03:03:02.190
Helen Fallon: you know probably time is of the essence. So

1439
03:03:02.320 --> 03:03:10.250
Helen Fallon: they don't get their introduction, and I urge them to just go ahead and take care of business on their own. Because this is you guys are useless.

1440
03:03:11.260 --> 03:03:17.260
Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Helen. Um. Next up um, Larry Nadler, please.

1441
03:03:20.940 --> 03:03:28.320
Larry Nagler: I think it's a waste of time to go to the Ocean Park Committee. Let me explain why I don't have any intention

1442
03:03:28.330 --> 03:03:46.949
Larry Nagler: of going and getting bids for this and supplying proof of a fraudulent Ah, ah contract. All I want is the ah, the the recreation and parks to talk to us about what they're doing and allow us to have. Input

1443
03:03:47.180 --> 03:03:48.630
Larry Nagler: Thank you.

1444
03:03:48.750 --> 03:03:53.410
Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Larry. That's it, Jim. Back to you.

1445
03:03:53.420 --> 03:03:54.680
jim murez: Okay?

1446
03:03:56.170 --> 03:03:59.710
Vicki Halliday: Oh, Nick threw his hand up at the last second. Hold on,

1447
03:03:59.720 --> 03:04:01.229
Vicki Halliday: Nick, Go ahead.

1448
03:04:01.810 --> 03:04:07.089
Nick Antonicello: Yeah, The problem is is that theosure from Walk Committee never heard this application. That's the point.

1449
03:04:07.310 --> 03:04:10.819
Nick Antonicello: It's the place it should have been. It's the place it didn't go to

1450
03:04:11.040 --> 03:04:14.199
Nick Antonicello: as far as this committee, is it's outside committee.

1451
03:04:14.310 --> 03:04:28.490
Nick Antonicello: You have every right to come and participate in our next meeting with Jim Robbins holding, And so in terms of this, this is the right place to be. This was the place it should have been

1452
03:04:28.990 --> 03:04:35.889
Nick Antonicello: so, you know. Look at your fire, wasn't you standing Walls Ocean. The last time I checked those courts around ocean from war

1453
03:04:35.900 --> 03:04:37.080
jim murez: time's up.

1454
03:04:39.240 --> 03:04:40.520
Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Next.

1455
03:04:41.160 --> 03:04:42.300
jim murez: Okay,

1456
03:04:43.450 --> 03:04:45.839
jim murez: let's go ahead and uh

1457
03:04:47.450 --> 03:04:49.730
take a vote on this,

1458
03:04:50.150 --> 03:04:57.599
jim murez: all of those in favor of sending this back to cushion Front Walk Committee, the

1459
03:04:57.890 --> 03:04:59.190
jim murez: Alyssa. How do you vote?

1460
03:04:59.200 --> 03:05:01.899
melissadiner: We have board? Can comment right now.

1461
03:05:01.910 --> 03:05:05.989
jim murez: Oh, you, that's true. You want to have board. Comment. Go ahead, have board, Comment: Sorry

1462
03:05:06.530 --> 03:05:21.400
melissadiner: I just. I just want to say I'll happily help whoever on this like tennis committee to connect them with the ocean front with anyone they want. I reckon, Parks, if I can help, and I just don't think we should let like our internal

1463
03:05:21.630 --> 03:05:47.540
melissadiner: struggle, Always push people away. We have like ninety people on the call tonight. We could have easily passed this like it's It's here now. We don't need to like waste their time going back to committee. We could have easily modified this. I said that from the beginning one sentence to request that info to us and to recommend it to them. So I just. I hope we can just like, be efficient. I'm gonna vote. No,

1464
03:05:49.010 --> 03:05:50.960
jim murez: thank you. Um.

1465
03:05:51.880 --> 03:05:53.540
jim murez: J: Go ahead.

1466
03:05:56.630 --> 03:05:58.399
jim murez: Your hand is up. Jay.

1467
03:05:58.410 --> 03:06:05.309
jay : Sorry my hand is down. Okay. Thank you, Melissa. You can take your hand down to solid. Ed. Go ahead, please.

1468
03:06:05.320 --> 03:06:34.680
Soledad Ursua: I'm going to be voting to send it back to committee. I think we really as ah as the former committee chair. I think we really have to work together to make sure that it's going to the right place. Um, I understand all the conversations from the different groups, but it has to be flushed out more. But for people on both sides, I mean, you know, send an email to the court, because we will all gladly help put you in touch to work and parks It doesn't matter who you are. It can be something personal. We'll help you get in touch with the right people. But I really think this has to go back to the

1469
03:06:34.690 --> 03:06:48.060
Soledad Ursua: the front Walk Committee. And again, if you're concerned about corruption and misuse of tax funds, I mean. Look up what the the city is doing. Look up, shield fuel. The stuff is rampant. It's not limited here.

1470
03:06:49.910 --> 03:06:53.409
jim murez: Thank you. Solidar Jim. Rob, go ahead.

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03:06:53.450 --> 03:07:02.520
Jim Robb: If you could contact me at James Robin, Venice, Nc. Dot Org, I would be happy to put this together and put you first on my agenda.

1472
03:07:03.890 --> 03:07:07.289
jim murez: Thank you, Jim Clark. Go ahead, please.

1473
03:07:07.300 --> 03:07:23.340
Clark Brown: I don't favor sending this back to the ah, or sending this to you from Walk Committee. Ah! All this motion does. And you you don't look at the where, as you just look at the motion, all the motion says is that it requests the city and recreation and parks to keep this committee in the loop.

1474
03:07:23.380 --> 03:07:27.889
Clark Brown: It continues to think about and proceed with this project,

1475
03:07:27.900 --> 03:07:38.020
Clark Brown: and i'm also persuaded, I think Helen made the point that time may be of the essence. Here you have a deteriorating facility, and we should avoid delay. Delay is not necessary here.

1476
03:07:39.120 --> 03:07:41.729
jim murez: Thank you. Clark. Um, Michelle.

1477
03:07:42.640 --> 03:07:58.079
Michael: Yeah, I I just think sending this to committee is I I mean it doesn't Take in other committees. Look at this to tell you. It's a gross waste of money. What Larry's group is asking for, I think, is

1478
03:07:58.090 --> 03:08:10.969
Michael: is fairly straightforward. I don't think there's anything nefarious in it. These are people that are passionate about this sport, and they want to. I mean potentially pay for this stuff

1479
03:08:10.980 --> 03:08:25.789
Michael: that the improvements that are going in there, which I mean, I think our tax money should pay for. But if they want to do that like have at it, Obviously that's partly, I think, to keep it battle tennis, but that's their prerogative, and

1480
03:08:25.800 --> 03:08:39.600
Michael: you know, for that reason I am not supporting sending this back to committee. That's just a waste of time, and that It's going to be a month later, and we're going to have the exact same hour and a half

1481
03:08:39.610 --> 03:08:55.589
Michael: public comment, and bickering back and forth, which I Don't think serves any of the stakeholders who are interested in this. So I I would urge everyone to vote no to, and send us to committee, and let's just prove this and be on to the next thing.

1482
03:08:55.600 --> 03:08:56.580
Michael: Thank you.

1483
03:08:57.050 --> 03:09:00.689
jim murez: Thank you. Um, Robert, go ahead, please,

1484
03:09:01.300 --> 03:09:05.519
jim murez: and those of you who would have spoken already. If you could lower your hands it would be appreciated.

1485
03:09:06.310 --> 03:09:16.320
robertthibodeau: I think this is a poorly written motion, and i'm not sure what you guys are looking at when you say It's just to refer to

1486
03:09:16.600 --> 03:09:32.339
robertthibodeau: to the um, you know, because because they just want to intro to the parks and Iraq. That's not what this motion says. It talks about supervising how all the funds are spent. That's way out of our League, and

1487
03:09:32.490 --> 03:09:47.780
robertthibodeau: people are making all kinds of judgments. Of course, city stuff's always more expensive than privately, you know. Stuff on private property. We all know that, I mean. Look at the the Bridge House costs and stuff like that. I'm not saying that the costs

1488
03:09:47.790 --> 03:10:01.679
robertthibodeau: aren't justified. But they're always seemingly exorbitant. And then, when when you actually look at a breakdown of what's being provided, and and the fact that the the rates are higher because it's publicly funded project

1489
03:10:01.790 --> 03:10:06.840
robertthibodeau: you kind of get get the gist of it. You have no idea when you're supplying the

1490
03:10:06.870 --> 03:10:09.439
robertthibodeau: one thousand eight hundred and eighty-eight accessible

1491
03:10:09.520 --> 03:10:23.759
robertthibodeau: drinking stations. What the cost is on that you don't know if they're re-plumbing the whole crap. You don't know if there's engineering involved. There's for you who aren't in construction. There's a lot of stuff that goes on, and people have to get paid, and and they should be paid well for what they do.

1492
03:10:23.910 --> 03:10:40.569
robertthibodeau: You've also got the issue that this is down by the beach. You don't know what the fencing is. Likely it's something that's corrosion resistant. It's probably pretty expensive to be honest with you. So it has this doesn't have to be replaced in a year or two again I haven't seen the drawings I haven't seen the specs,

1493
03:10:40.580 --> 03:10:47.260
robertthibodeau: but I think this is all way beyond what we should be looking at. I fully support sending this back.

1494
03:10:47.510 --> 03:11:01.099
robertthibodeau: I think it's a a poorly written motion. I think it should be sent back to the ocean, prolonged me, or Franckage is killed, and I don't think this has anything to do. If you want a a motion that I can support it. Would it would just be an intro to parks and wreck.

1495
03:11:01.110 --> 03:11:07.879
robertthibodeau: Consult for the design, and and that seems fine. All this other stuff about the budget, I think, is a bunch of hooey. Thanks.

1496
03:11:09.360 --> 03:11:12.850
jim murez: Thank you, Robert. Um, Jason, Go ahead, please.

1497
03:11:13.490 --> 03:11:31.190
Jason Sugars: Um. I will be voting to send it back to committees solely because it seems that something. This clearly right on the boardwalk should have gone to that committee first, regardless of whatever else just so boardwalk specific. At the same time we can vote that

1498
03:11:31.200 --> 03:11:35.839
Jason Sugars: goes back, and still any of us, individually or any of us, as a group,

1499
03:11:35.850 --> 03:11:42.149
Jason Sugars: help them get whatever they need to do, to get connected directly to par to wrecks and parks, or whatever they need as well. So

1500
03:11:43.090 --> 03:11:47.390
okay, hang on just one second. I knocked my glasses off.

1501
03:11:48.330 --> 03:11:48.990
Well,

1502
03:11:49.000 --> 03:12:03.119
Vicki Halliday: i'd like to chime in um. I agree with Robert. I think that the original motion should just be killed. Send this to ocean front walk. Um! Let's figure out the best way to support this group

1503
03:12:03.130 --> 03:12:04.950
Vicki Halliday: and go from there.

1504
03:12:07.070 --> 03:12:11.009
jim murez: Okay, I don't see the other hands up.

1505
03:12:11.060 --> 03:12:25.589
jim murez: Hmm. And so I think now we need to take a vote on the alternate motion to send it back to committee. Um, If the so yes, vote sends it back to committee. Right?

1506
03:12:25.600 --> 03:12:39.890
Michael: That's correct. Okay, if if it does, if it If the if the vote at this point fails, then an alternate motion could be so. So we can amend. We can amend this motion that everyone claims as well.

1507
03:12:39.900 --> 03:12:47.550
Michael: We could amend the original motion that was poorly written. Yes, and and tremendously claims

1508
03:12:47.580 --> 03:12:56.759
jim murez: right. We could do whatever we wanted with it. But at this point A. Yes vote sends it to committee. A. No vote? Continues the process.

1509
03:12:57.920 --> 03:13:01.559
jim murez: Okay, Melissa, how do you vote? No.

1510
03:13:03.170 --> 03:13:05.189
jim murez: Um. J. How do you vote?

1511
03:13:05.200 --> 03:13:06.310
jay : Yes,

1512
03:13:07.170 --> 03:13:08.289
jim murez: Vicki.

1513
03:13:08.300 --> 03:13:09.199
Vicki Halliday: Yes.

1514
03:13:09.710 --> 03:13:10.850
jim murez: Bruno.

1515
03:13:11.930 --> 03:13:13.260
Bruno Hernandez: Yes,

1516
03:13:13.860 --> 03:13:15.210
jim murez: Sima.

1517
03:13:15.890 --> 03:13:17.400
Sima: Yes,

1518
03:13:17.800 --> 03:13:19.170
jim murez: Nico

1519
03:13:23.170 --> 03:13:24.449
jim murez: Nico

1520
03:13:26.510 --> 03:13:27.920
jim murez: Jim Robb:

1521
03:13:31.790 --> 03:13:33.010
Jim Robb: Yes,

1522
03:13:34.320 --> 03:13:35.800
jim murez: Jason.

1523
03:13:35.940 --> 03:13:37.180
Jason Sugars: Yes,

1524
03:13:37.200 --> 03:13:38.490
jim murez: Sally,

1525
03:13:38.730 --> 03:13:41.640
Vicki Halliday: she can't vote because she can't.

1526
03:13:42.090 --> 03:13:44.630
jim murez: She's not okay.

1527
03:13:44.670 --> 03:13:45.830
jim murez: Kai

1528
03:13:47.110 --> 03:13:49.730
Chie: um yes, to send it back to the board

1529
03:13:50.320 --> 03:13:51.490
to gem her up.

1530
03:13:51.500 --> 03:13:54.010
jim murez: Right. Um, Mike.

1531
03:13:54.170 --> 03:13:55.240
Mike Bravo: Yes,

1532
03:13:55.600 --> 03:13:57.079
jim murez: Sol, it down.

1533
03:13:57.090 --> 03:13:57.980
Soledad Ursua: Yes.

1534
03:13:58.130 --> 03:14:00.340
CJ Cole: Cj: Yes,

1535
03:14:01.000 --> 03:14:02.240
jim murez: Robert.

1536
03:14:02.630 --> 03:14:03.970
robertthibodeau: Yes,

1537
03:14:04.460 --> 03:14:05.630
jim murez: part.

1538
03:14:05.640 --> 03:14:06.510
Clark Brown: No,

1539
03:14:07.930 --> 03:14:10.330
Michael: Mikhail, no.

1540
03:14:11.160 --> 03:14:13.120
jim murez: And i'm going to vote.

1541
03:14:13.540 --> 03:14:16.189
jim murez: Yes, not that it really matters. But

1542
03:14:16.230 --> 03:14:17.580
jim murez: um,

1543
03:14:19.000 --> 03:14:20.820
Nico, Did you come back?

1544
03:14:23.510 --> 03:14:28.320
Jim Robb: Okay, I appreciate you, and I would like to include you in the meeting, too, if possible.

1545
03:14:28.990 --> 03:14:30.590
jim murez: I didn't understand you.

1546
03:14:30.600 --> 03:14:38.229
Jim Robb: Say it again, Michael. I appreciated his effort, and if he wants to join and help us out. I will send an email to you.

1547
03:14:39.800 --> 03:14:41.220
jim murez: Okay,

1548
03:14:41.570 --> 03:14:44.969
jim murez: So that one that motion carried It's going back to committee.

1549
03:14:45.640 --> 03:14:47.060
jim murez: Um

1550
03:14:47.410 --> 03:14:49.490
jim murez: God! Now we go back. Up.

1551
03:14:49.740 --> 03:14:52.959
jim murez: Yeah. So we did. The two land use ones.

1552
03:14:54.740 --> 03:14:56.489
Clark Brown: We are twenty-eight.

1553
03:14:57.830 --> 03:15:00.590
jim murez: Um, Okay,

1554
03:15:01.330 --> 03:15:07.040
jim murez: this is a motion put on by Ivan our Parliamentarian

1555
03:15:07.100 --> 03:15:23.489
jay : Um. I will introduce it very quickly, and then we can ask him questions. We're going to need a maker of the motion also, but with somebody like to make the motion. The motion is to approve. The final corrections to the bylaws. Was that jay?

1556
03:15:23.500 --> 03:15:25.100
CJ Cole: Thank you.

1557
03:15:25.110 --> 03:15:31.220
CJ Cole: See. Jail second. Thank you. Cj: Let me just let everybody know

1558
03:15:31.230 --> 03:15:45.280
jim murez: um the process that Ah, the Bylaws committee actually the rules and Selection committee put forward earlier in the year, And then the Board approved a revised

1559
03:15:45.290 --> 03:15:58.549
jim murez: a set of bylaws that those bylaws were submitted to the city in a timely fashion. The city then went through them, and basically they red lined them or did whatever they do, they They made a couple of minor

1560
03:15:58.560 --> 03:16:24.279
jim murez: um. Maybe some people think Major um revisions to them. Um! And they said in return. These are your bylaws. Um, and we don't really have a whole lot of say about it. But as a as a board of officers, we have to now adopt those amended by-laws. So having said that Um, unless anybody has any question, Ivan, did I miss any part of that,

1561
03:16:26.790 --> 03:16:28.420
jim murez: Ivan, are you here.

1562
03:16:30.660 --> 03:16:32.600
jim murez: Okay? Um:

1563
03:16:33.130 --> 03:16:35.090
Ivan: Sorry I was muted.

1564
03:16:35.100 --> 03:16:38.530
Ivan: Yeah, Um, yeah. These are just minor.

1565
03:16:38.740 --> 03:16:50.700
Ivan: The two of them are actually spelling typos. Ah, these are just little things. One. If the board proves this, then these will be our new bylaws until at least after the election.

1566
03:16:51.640 --> 03:16:52.690
Okay,

1567
03:16:52.970 --> 03:16:55.790
jim murez: we don't have any choice other than to approve them, do we?

1568
03:16:55.800 --> 03:16:58.390
Ivan: Well, no, you can't make any other changes

1569
03:16:58.400 --> 03:17:12.990
Ivan: right, so we can't deny them. They're in there. Well, you. My recommendation is that you should. These were spelling errors and booze worked on it. To which and I found in going through.

1570
03:17:13.000 --> 03:17:22.170
Ivan: Okay, um. So, Freddie, as his hand up, Freddie, why don't we let you make any clarification, comments you want.

1571
03:17:22.600 --> 03:17:41.470
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): So Yeah, for these by-laws it was pointed out to me um by the Parliamentarian of these spelling errors um, and certain things that didn't make sense. Also there were certain um inconsistencies with the bond table of contents that was needed to be corrected by titles, because the

1572
03:17:41.480 --> 03:17:42.610
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): um,

1573
03:17:42.670 --> 03:17:49.979
Ivan: the bong table contents has a certain title based off of the the article, and then the subsections

1574
03:17:49.990 --> 03:18:07.300
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): you, as a board, can choose to um approve these bylaws, um or to not, and then wait until after the election to make the necessary changes. Um! But those were brought to me to make those changes so that they can be fixed, and

1575
03:18:07.310 --> 03:18:22.759
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): as a as a member of the department, I I wanted to be, you know, as helpful as I can to make those easier corrections, because there are other corrections that they wanted to make. But it required a little more of a board action that that wouldn't fall within

1576
03:18:22.770 --> 03:18:33.109
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): these easy spelling or ah, word changes that don't impact the subset of your bylaws, but rather just a of

1577
03:18:33.120 --> 03:18:47.409
Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): you know, like taken away policy in front of a a word, because that was actually a duplicate word from the previous paragraph, or changing finding, which was initially in the paragraph which should have been funding. So those minor things.

1578
03:18:47.750 --> 03:18:49.909
jim murez: Okay, Um.

1579
03:18:50.220 --> 03:18:54.369
jim murez: So we have a motion, and we have a seconder

1580
03:18:55.470 --> 03:18:57.490
jim murez: vicki. Do we have any public comment.

1581
03:18:57.500 --> 03:18:58.929
Vicki Halliday: We have one.

1582
03:18:59.360 --> 03:19:03.770
Goat Puppet: Okay, Okay, good puppet. Go ahead.

1583
03:19:04.490 --> 03:19:07.329
Goat Puppet: And the big thing is, I discovered

1584
03:19:07.530 --> 03:19:09.440
Goat Puppet: that misspelling

1585
03:19:09.530 --> 03:19:11.850
Goat Puppet: of funding for finding

1586
03:19:18.550 --> 03:19:22.950
Goat Puppet: asked. And then, of course, the Parliamentarian found other mistakes,

1587
03:19:23.080 --> 03:19:31.359
Goat Puppet: and then brought in Friday, and then they brought in the city attorney, and then we even almost went to the Fbi.

1588
03:19:31.920 --> 03:19:35.580
Goat Puppet: But now. Tonight we finally have finished our work.

1589
03:19:35.590 --> 03:19:49.150
Goat Puppet: Years of war started with the great Iraq Coslo, who used to sit there with his bald head, scratching it, wondering what this day come, and finally we have it here,

1590
03:19:49.220 --> 03:19:56.539
Goat Puppet: your bylaws after years of work and the tireless effort of goat puppet.

1591
03:19:56.580 --> 03:20:05.890
Goat Puppet: Therefore I recommend you will prove the goodness both-profit neighborhood rules and bylaws. Thank you. God, Puppet:

1592
03:20:06.870 --> 03:20:08.420
Vicki Halliday: that's it Jim.

1593
03:20:08.490 --> 03:20:10.540
jim murez: Okay, is that it? On public comment.

1594
03:20:10.550 --> 03:20:13.889
jim murez: Yeah, I I notice there's still a hand up, but I don't know who it is. But okay,

1595
03:20:13.900 --> 03:20:17.589
jim murez: no, it's no puppet. I'm trying to take it now. All right, Thank you.

1596
03:20:17.600 --> 03:20:18.860
jim murez: Um.

1597
03:20:20.310 --> 03:20:25.280
jim murez: Okay, where are we? Um. For comments,

1598
03:20:27.820 --> 03:20:32.080
jim murez: seeing no hands. Let's take a vote.

1599
03:20:33.340 --> 03:20:36.709
jim murez: I'm going to vote. Yes.

1600
03:20:37.640 --> 03:20:40.989
jim murez: Well, listen. How do you vote? Yes, um Jay.

1601
03:20:41.000 --> 03:20:44.089
jay : Yes, Vicki. Yes, Bruno.

1602
03:20:44.100 --> 03:20:46.289
Bruno Hernandez: Yes, Sima.

1603
03:20:46.600 --> 03:20:47.770
Sima: Yes,

1604
03:20:49.080 --> 03:20:50.900
jim murez: thank you. Nico

1605
03:20:52.600 --> 03:20:54.060
jim murez: Jim Ram.

1606
03:20:57.330 --> 03:20:58.410
Jim Robb: What else?

1607
03:20:58.420 --> 03:21:00.789
Jason Sugars: Jason? Yes,

1608
03:21:04.250 --> 03:21:08.340
jim murez: Allie No, she can't vote. Kai.

1609
03:21:08.510 --> 03:21:09.830
Chie: Yes,

1610
03:21:10.190 --> 03:21:11.289
jim murez: Mike.

1611
03:21:11.470 --> 03:21:12.900
Yes,

1612
03:21:13.070 --> 03:21:14.609
jim murez: the solar and

1613
03:21:19.020 --> 03:21:20.190
jim murez: C. J.

1614
03:21:20.200 --> 03:21:21.300
CJ Cole: Yes,

1615
03:21:21.760 --> 03:21:27.149
Clark Brown: Robert, Yes, Clark. Yes, Mike Mikkel.

1616
03:21:27.160 --> 03:21:29.730
jim murez: Yes, so it down.

1617
03:21:32.180 --> 03:21:35.699
jim murez: The vote carries one thousand four hundred and

1618
03:21:36.580 --> 03:21:40.989
jim murez: um. The next one was from the homeless committee,

1619
03:21:41.000 --> 03:21:52.989
CJ Cole: and I say something real quickly. Allie is sitting in the attendees. I don't know whether that means she's figured out her commuter computer and wants to be let back in.

1620
03:21:53.000 --> 03:22:00.789
Vicki Halliday: She Hasn't, C. J. What it is. She's here, but she has no audio on her zoom on her computer.

1621
03:22:00.800 --> 03:22:01.490
CJ Cole: Okay.

1622
03:22:01.500 --> 03:22:04.120
CJ Cole: But she sits in the attendees.

1623
03:22:04.370 --> 03:22:09.790
CJ Cole: I know that's That's her phone. She's on both. Gotcha. Okay,

1624
03:22:09.800 --> 03:22:10.679
CJ Cole: Yes,

1625
03:22:12.650 --> 03:22:13.990
jim murez: Um

1626
03:22:15.060 --> 03:22:17.919
jim murez: Vicki. Do you want to make this motion?

1627
03:22:18.250 --> 03:22:27.690
jim murez: It's Frank. Not here. I don't know It's Frank here. Does he want to make the motion? At least, if he's here? Frank Murphy raised his hand. It just popped up on my screen.

1628
03:22:27.700 --> 03:22:29.069
Vicki Halliday: Oh, okay, good.

1629
03:22:29.450 --> 03:22:32.180
jim murez: He needs to be promoted. Go ahead, Frank.

1630
03:22:35.650 --> 03:22:37.180
Vicki Halliday: Frank. You can talk.

1631
03:22:37.420 --> 03:22:38.890
frank murphy: Okay. Can you hear me?

1632
03:22:38.900 --> 03:22:49.189
jim murez: Yeah. Can you? Can you see the motion, and and then one of the Board members has to. You can read the motion, and then one of the Board members has to to be the actual maker of the motion.

1633
03:22:49.200 --> 03:22:50.990
frank murphy: Sure, i'll just read it

1634
03:22:51.130 --> 03:22:52.580
frank murphy: on

1635
03:22:52.970 --> 03:22:57.590
frank murphy: where there is. We don't need the whereas we just need the motion.

1636
03:22:57.880 --> 03:23:09.039
frank murphy: The Venice Neighborhood Council requests that the City of Los Angeles enact the following government-funded Cd. Eleven Service providers must provide present,

1637
03:23:09.210 --> 03:23:25.379
frank murphy: defend to the public, and verify on a quarterly basis, an accounting of all funds and services provided for homeless efforts, with emphasis on the results for and benefits

1638
03:23:25.390 --> 03:23:40.970
frank murphy: to the homeless and housed community in Venice. In all cases it must be detailed, precise and transparent, with meaningful, timely responses to the public's, concerns

1639
03:23:40.980 --> 03:23:46.560
frank murphy: made available in an accessible and participatory manner. The

1640
03:23:47.150 --> 03:23:51.389
jim murez: Okay, Could I get somebody to make them be the maker of the motion,

1641
03:23:51.400 --> 03:23:56.589
robertthibodeau: Jim? I'll make the motion. Thank you. Thank you. Vicki Robert. Second: Thank you. Robert.

1642
03:23:56.780 --> 03:23:58.310
jim murez: Um,

1643
03:24:02.810 --> 03:24:12.829
jim murez: Okay, let's go to. Does anybody on the committee have any questions that need to be clarified about the motion itself. If not, we'll go to public comment.

1644
03:24:14.680 --> 03:24:18.790
jim murez: Okay, Vicki, let's go to public comment. Okay, go ahead, please.

1645
03:24:22.850 --> 03:24:29.830
Goat Puppet: Running, and we want to know how much good are those loss of people throwing out the

1646
03:24:30.820 --> 03:24:33.000
Goat Puppet: right channel. Two Goldstein answer.

1647
03:24:34.440 --> 03:24:45.660
Goat Puppet: We want to know how many trips are being taken to Mcdonald's and back. We're not working by these. These are the questions we want to know.

1648
03:24:45.920 --> 03:24:48.900
Goat Puppet: But gee handle also wants to know too,

1649
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Goat Puppet: fraud, waste, and abuse by Wasa and all of these supposed homeless providers.

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Goat Puppet: Yes, they come and go, don't they

1651
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Goat Puppet: every day

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Goat Puppet: you see the lines of tents, the lines of all these, the Lords,

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Goat Puppet: and now they've been pushed

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Goat Puppet: screaming to the Board of Supervisors to push them back into your backyard. This motion is definitely needed. Just the facts,

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Goat Puppet: not the hyperbole. Thank you. Go, puppet uh Margaret Moly. Go ahead, please.

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Margaret Molloy: Yeah, I commented on this at the homeless Committee. If you're going to go this route of asking for transparency, I request that you include transparency on Ls Pd. Budget, devoted to homeless enforcement in Venice. Specifically and more broadly in the city, the district attorney and city attorney recently throughout

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Margaret Molloy: two million tickets That, they said were unrecoverable. That just exemplifies the cynicism of an enormous budget based on harassment which many of you actually would probably support. But it's pure harassment. There's no resolution in it.

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Margaret Molloy: There's no benefit in it, but it does harass people who are already struggling. Can we redirect that budget the Lapd budget, including overtime and warrens, and all that craft.

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Margaret Molloy: Can we redirect it to helping people? So i'm asking you to include that in your request for transparency. It's a really big issue. Thank you. Thank you, Margaret Shawn. O'brien, go ahead, please.

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Sean Obrien: Long meeting, keeping this brief, I support the motion. Thank you. Thank you, Sean Yawanda. Go ahead, please.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, long meeting also. But I support this motion, and I think we should also send it to the county.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Yolanda um, and last person with their hand up is Kalani Kalani. Go ahead, please.

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): Um, because

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): many homeless rights activists, providers, and nonprofits spend most of their funds on admin, often employing family members on their staff and their boards.

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): I believe we need to support this motion, and and even stronger motions that will force those who control these Hh. Funds and taxpayer dollars and grants

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): to be more transparent. And how many people they're helping and how much they're spending. Thank you. Thank you. That's the end of public comment, Jim.

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jim murez: Um. Okay, Any

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jim murez: Board comment,

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jim murez: seeing no hands raised. Let's take a vote.

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jim murez: I'm going to vote. Yes,

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jay : Yes, thank you. Jay Vicki.

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Vicki Halliday: Yes,

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jim murez: um

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jim murez: Bruno.

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Bruno Hernandez: Yes.

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jim murez: See Mars.

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Yes,

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jim murez: Nico,

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jim murez: Jim Robb.

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jim murez: Jason.

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Jason Sugars: Yes,

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jim murez: Jim, Did you vote? Yes,

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yes,

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jim murez: Alley,

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jim murez: she can't vote. I keep. I'm getting tired. Kai. Yes, Mike.

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Mike Bravo: Yes, solid and Cj:

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CJ Cole: Yes,

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jim murez: Robert.

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robertthibodeau: Yes,

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jim murez: clerk.

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Clark Brown: Yes,

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jim murez: the kill.

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Michael: Yes, Nico

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jim murez: motion carries fifteen zero. Zero. Venice Boulevard mobility Improvement Project.

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jim murez: This was brought to us by parking and transportation.

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jim murez: Um, Robert, you want to go ahead and make the motion and read it.

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robertthibodeau: You got to unmute. Robert. Sorry. Yeah. I was muted.

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robertthibodeau: Ah, be it resolved that the Venice Neighborhood Council will send a letter forthwith to L. A. D. Ot. And Councilman Mike Bonnan's office stating transportation projects like this should be an ongoing partnership between stakeholders, the neighborhood councils and the city and the Vnc.

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robertthibodeau: Best and most direct way to communicate about projects like this with public the

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robertthibodeau: and two, no transportation project. If this scale of magnitude should be considered, planned, implemented, or approved without the ongoing involvement and approval of the Vnc and its stakeholders.

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robertthibodeau: Furthermore, the letter will recommend that the Bnc. Will not support the Venezuelan ability.

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robertthibodeau: There are discussions with venice stakeholders and incorporation of the input into the design of the project. And that would be a cis

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robertthibodeau: to Council file twenty-two over six hundred and ninety-four.

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jim murez: Thank you. And you're making the motion right

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robertthibodeau: if I can. Yes,

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jim murez: yeah, Okay, um. Do we need a second, please.

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jim murez: I I'll. Second Chan: Thank you. Vicki,

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jim murez: Anybody have any questions about this?

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robertthibodeau: Let's take public comment. We'll

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robertthibodeau: Ah, hold on! I think we have someone here from led ot.

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Yeah.

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jim murez: Oh, did we want them to make up

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jim murez: brief presentation.

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robertthibodeau: I would cap it because their presentations have been fairly long. But I would give them like five minutes or so.

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jim murez: Okay, it's nine twenty. Now, Vicki, you want to go ahead and promote him. We'll give him five minutes.

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Vicki Halliday: Yeah, let me promote.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay.

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Vicki Halliday: That person has not joined

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Babak - LADOT: closer.

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jim murez: Hi, can you hear me?

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jim murez: Yep, hey? I think when we were emailing before, I think we were told we would get down to fifteen minutes.

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jim murez: You want ten minutes we can give you ten minutes.

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jim murez: It's late, but we can give you ten minutes.

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We know we know it's like

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Babak - LADOT: Ah cool. Well, let me share my screen and and i'll do the presentation.

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Babak - LADOT: Okay,

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Babak - LADOT: cool. Can you see my screen?

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jim murez: Not yet. Hold on.

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jim murez: I want to get the clock set first.

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jim murez: Okay, Now your screen.

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Babak - LADOT: Well, I think I just be able to go ahead. There you go. Yeah, before we start. Eric from Council District eleven or to speak. Is there a way to?

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Eric Bruins (CD11): Yeah, Let me promote now you i'm already promoted, and I'm: i'm here, I guess. Let me just start by saying, Thank you. Thank you for staying late. I know the hours late, because everybody else on the committee. My name is Eric Bruins. I'm. The deputy Chief of staff at

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Eric Bruins (CD11): Council District Eleven. This This project is a major potential project for for the district. I wanted to give a very short narrative about how we got here tonight.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): Um. The Palms Neighborhood Council, about two years ago, when Street L. A. Was resurfacing their segment of Ah Venice Boulevard. All the neighborhood council spent quite a bit of time advocating to the city to implement a vision of progressive mobility in their portion of the street, which included a protected Bike lane and a bus lane.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): Ah Streets L. A. Resurface and a temporary pink was was installed on a portion of the Palm Segment and Street L. A is now scheduled to resurface the remainder of the bomb section of Venice Boulevard in the first week of November. That is the segment from the four hundred and five to Motor Avenue, because the section east of Motor Avenue was resurfaced a couple of years ago. So kind of recognizing that we can't do mobility, planning,

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Eric Bruins (CD11): walk by block. This is the corridor that requires a larger conversation back in June Council district, five in our office to introduce a motion giving dot the resources to have a much larger community conversation that was cognizant of the role that Venezuela, our plays in the broader West Side transportation network. So the presentation here tonight as a result of our office and our neighbors eighty five. Recognizing that there needed to be a larger

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Eric Bruins (CD11): community conversation because this was a potentially significant project, but that the end goal was to have a street that does not vary in configuration significantly from block to block, and that is really a cohesive vision for for mobility,

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Eric Bruins (CD11): because we really believe that you guys deserve the the best from a city we you deserve the best technical design, or to your streets, and you both, that you deserve the best engagement process that can yield those those changes to to design of your streets. So our mandate to Doot was that they should talk to everybody; that we would give them whatever resources they needed to have those conversations. But the timing on this is really determined by the resurfacing schedule. And so the time is of the essence,

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Eric Bruins (CD11): and so I can provide a couple of remarks about the the content of the motion after the dot presentation. But it was always our intent to get this presentation in front of you, because we think this presentation is worth your time, so that when you understand the scope of the project um, you understand the extensive conversations that do Tot has facilitated in the community, and the feedback that we have received from from everybody. So far,

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Eric Bruins (CD11): So with that I will invite you to take the survey that that we will talk about. It will be open through the end of the month.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): So that way again, we can get the feedback from the Venice community like we have from every other community along this corridor to make sure that everybody's opinions are considered as as the ot considers their next steps on this project. Thank you. I'll turn it back over to you, Bobby.

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Babak - LADOT: Great. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Oh, he doesn't have. Okay, fine,

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Babak - LADOT: Can you know? Wait a minute while I I i'll start the presentation.

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Babak - LADOT: They've both been promoted. Okay, Thank you very much, Vicky. Hello, uh, good evening, everyone. My name is Bobby Georgie, and thank you for inviting us to speak on uh the uh Venice, full of large safety mobility project. My name is golf at Dorji. I'm. A transportation planner with the department of Transportation

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Babak - LADOT: at the city of Los Angeles. So I just wanted to give quickly through the goals and opportunities for the project. For this project we see an opportunity to improve traffic, safety produce fatalities and sphere injuries. Along Venice Boulevard

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Babak - LADOT: we see the opportunity to enhance access to jobs, social services, transit, and community resources to provide additional mobility options for people getting around an opportunity to improve bus reliability and travel times and to increase access to the Metro Eline.

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Babak - LADOT: And so the project limits are from Lincoln to National. That's about a four and a half mile stretch. Venice, boulevard is a major east-west corridor that serves as a connection between multiple neighborhoods including palms and Harvest

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Babak - LADOT: and Venice, as well as South Robinson area. As we mentioned earlier, nearly forty seven thousand people have within a five minute walk of the project area, and over half of those residents are people of color.

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Babak - LADOT: A little bit over. Fifty percent of all trips in the project area are under three miles, and there's about thirty six schools that are within the project area,

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Babak - LADOT: and the Metro. Thirty. Three bus runs along the corridor and to the nearby Metro line station.

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Babak - LADOT: So um! Here we see, uh, some of the existing microwave and transit rats in the project area. But what really jumps out is that even with the number of existing bike, infrastructure and bus routes, certain area, then, as Boulevard really is, the main option for people biking or taking buses to travel across town.

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Babak - LADOT: This is an image of the existing conditions. There's about three travel lanes for traffic, a center median, a bike lane, and parking at Kurt. The street is wide, and grades thoroughfare, but also affects the barrier between

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Babak - LADOT: um. So traffic safety is the top priority of, and I've heard in our community outer r, which we'll expand upon a little bit later, that improving traffic safety isn't as important um in the last ten years, and there was about one thousand two hundred collisions that occurred along Venezuela,

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Babak - LADOT: and a quarter of those were people who were walking or riding a bike, and fifty eight people were killed or severely injured.

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Babak - LADOT: Venice Boulevard is also on the city's boundary network, and that means it experiences a disproportionate amount of severe and fatal collisions, and then for the portion that is kind of in the East Venice Earth that's in the Venice Neighborhood

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Babak - LADOT: Council area that's kind of in Cd Eleven is the stretch between Lincoln and Beethoven, and that's kind of like a closest stretch to run a Stanford Council area, and in the last ten years there there's about two hundred

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Babak - LADOT: thirty collisions, about almost thirty percent were people walking or Viking, and fifteen people were killed or severely injured.

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Babak - LADOT: And as I spoke about before Ah, Venice, on the high injury network. And what is that? That's about six percent of the city streets. That account for seventy percent of deaths and sleep and serious entries.

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Babak - LADOT: And now i'm going to pass along to James, who's going to talk about the the bus online portion of this?

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James Shahamiri (LA Metro): Thanks, Bob Back. Hi! Everyone. This is James Shahamiri. I'm. A transportation engineer with La Metro. Ah, so just some quick facts on transit riders along the corridor. These are people that we're thinking of as we talk through the transit improvements for this evening. Um! Every year we conduct an annual onboard survey for line thirty, three. We have ninety. Three percent of our riders are people of color.

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James Shahamiri (LA Metro): Eighty-four percent of our riders are households making less than fifty thousand dollars per year. Eighty Two percent of our riders do not own a car, and they rely on bus service, and ninety eight percent of our riders take Metro at least several times per week next slide one.

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James Shahamiri (LA Metro): So just in terms of bus, stop activity along the the portion we're proposing the bus only lanes from people with the Culver. There's about eight thousand people a day that use these bus stops getting on and off and line thirty, three has just under twenty thousand weekday board, and for the entirety of the line between Santa Monica

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James Shahamiri (LA Metro): next slide.

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James Shahamiri (LA Metro): Why, bustlings, we're able to move a lot more people, much more efficiently with bustlings, with just paint and signs. We can increase the throughput of the street without having to do any roadway wide me or for heavy construction next slide.

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James Shahamiri (LA Metro): So we're going to talk about some safety features tonight, and for Venice to to get at the the injury numbers that Bobak was stating earlier. Ah! Things like that are protected by planes and some pedestrian improvements at the intersections that really aim to substantially improve the safety for everybody like that next slide

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James Shahamiri (LA Metro): in terms of the both bus lanes we are targeting a three-minute for direction time savings between Ninglewood and Culver, which is fairly substantial given the number of riders

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James Shahamiri (LA Metro): that that traverse this corridor it's a lot of minute-saved provider next slide,

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James Shahamiri (LA Metro): and i'll hand it back to my back. Thank you.

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Babak - LADOT: Yeah, thanks. Change And so in terms of the existing configuration. We want to come up with design option that balance the needs of people driving, parking, and walking Viking that was feasible within the existing geometry of the street. And so the top one is a

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Babak - LADOT: the existing configuration. The link in to Beethoven stretch would be to travel in the instruction of a parking lane and a black and protected bike lane.

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Babak - LADOT: Excuse me, Inglewood, to culvert with the two travel ends, a bus only lane, a parking line, and an apartment projected bike Lane, and then Culver to National would be three traveling to a parking room and an apartment protected Bike Lane

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Babak - LADOT: in terms of trade-offs. Ah, for the Lincoln the Beethoven section that is, within the Vonn Standard Council Boundary protects bicyclists from moving traffic. It offers pedestrians from moving traffic. It reduces vehicle lanes that pedestrians must across

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Babak - LADOT: It creates a traffic coming, and safety benefits, and it maintains parking and running length businesses in terms of trade offs. There would be some slight increases to travel times for vehicles and transit service, but that would occur at the peak of the Peak. It wouldn't be three hours of day, it would be felt,

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Babak - LADOT: and then there would be some minor parking we lost for visibility at driveways, and that would average out to about one to two parking spaces per block

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Babak - LADOT: in terms of the bike and bustling considerations. The trade-offs that improvements are kind of all the same except for improves travel time for transit users,

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jim murez: and the trade offs are all pretty much the same. So this is kind of a rendering of what that would look like. It Doesn't capture all the technical details, but presents an idea of what project would look like. This would be for the Lumpkin to Beethoven stretch, and then this would be for the bus only stretch from neighborhood to cover.

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Babak - LADOT: And so why is this kind of the safest option for

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Babak - LADOT: for everybody? For pedestrians? It would ah create a benefit from a slower street, and from being further away from vehicles For people on bikes, skateboards, and scooters, they are physically separated from their own vehicles, and then drivers tend to slow down because a road appears narrower and better organized.

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Babak - LADOT: So i'm about to pass it over to. Player is going to speak about the engagement, but we've been doing a lot of heavy engagement the last few months.

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Babak - LADOT: Been focusing mostly on the the we've been going through different stretches in the last few weeks we've been really kind of upping our outreach within the the

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in this area,

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Babak - LADOT: and we're kind of getting to the end of our engagement stretch and ah getting towards a decision point ending kind of community output. And we're looking to. If, again, this is a proposed project. So if

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Babak - LADOT: we hear enough uh community support. We would be looking to put this project later on in the fall. And now i'm going to pass it over to Claire, who is going to speak about all of the

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Babak - LADOT: the average that we've done.

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: Thanks, Bob back. Uh, hi! Everyone! My name is Claire. I'm with la do t with the project team, and we wanted to spend a couple of minutes talking about the details of our project engagement process.

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: Um! And as Eric shared up top. This is very important to us all. It's something the L. A. Do T. Metro and our project partners are all very committed to um, because it's a complex project that encompasses several neighborhoods. We've undertaken quite a robust process to share the proposal to understand how Venice is, and isn't working for people and get feedback

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: on the proposed concept.

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: As Bobac noted, we're still in the engagement process. We've been talking to community members throughout the corridor over the course of July, August, and September, and are still holding spaces for that feedback We've heard from many people, but we're still looking to hear from you, and we are definitely here to listen.

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: Um! A couple of the engagement activities that we've undertaken and wanted to highlight uh include making formal presentations like this one to each neighborhood council along the corridor, but also briefing local community stakeholders like schools, space-based organizations, and nonprofits. We've been canvassing and tabling along venice boulevard uh sharing project information with local businesses and tabling at locations like farmers markets, grocery stores, and bus stops.

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: We have an online community survey which we've received a

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: over I think one thousand six hundred and counting, and that will remain open through the end of September. If you Haven't had a chance to take it, and we'll share the link,

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: and we have also used social media advertising to get the word out about the project and the workshop that we held, reaching about thirty six thousand people.

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: Um! With those impressions we've tabled at community events for locations uh as of this week. Um, but we have some more scheduled, um, you know, and if you have any ideas, you know, certainly reach out to us uh and and see if we can. Um,

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: I get out to a location you would recommend. We canvassed over two hundred and fifty businesses, including at least twenty-five, within the dentist neighborhood council boundaries. But as Babek mentioned, we've got some more scheduled and looking to expand that

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: Metro also surveyed people riding on the bus on Metro line thirty, three to better under sixteen, understand the the experiences of people would take the bus Um. And so that's included in our data as well. We recently held a virtual workshop, where we shared a snapshot of the feedback received to date the full slide presentation in the reported Webinar video are on the project website. So if you'd like to see a little bit more about what we've been up to and what we've

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: you can find that online um. And on the next slide we wanted to share the footprint of our postcard mailer, just because it's a nice visual to show where we were able to, you know. Send a postcard out to

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: fourteen thousand addresses, including residents and businesses. This allowed us to to get the word out quickly to people all along the corridor. This is also just a nice visual showing the project extent, and where it falls relative to the various communities along on us.

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: Excuse me if we stick to our ten-minute presentation. You Got a minute left.

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: Great Thank you. I think that's perfect. So next slide, yeah, perfect

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: just to highlight um opportunities to engage in Venice this week. Our team is here with the Venice Board tonight. The Nsa. Board tomorrow will be presenting the project to the West Side Regional Alliance of Council, Mobility and Transportation Committee on Thursday. We'll be talking with the East Venice Neighborhood Council. Um, you know, which we had reached out to early in the process, recognizing the importance of connecting, especially with East Dennis, where the project does,

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: we'll be out in the neighborhood the next two Fridays of the farmers market. In addition to a couple of additional tabling engagements along the quarter. So if you see us out on the street or at the farmers market, please stop by and say hello,

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: and we have plans to conduct additional business canvassing in Venice, and are continuing to to try to reach those we haven't been able to reach. Yet.

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: Um, we're holding a couple virtual business, listening sessions to ensure, we provide a space for people to come and share their perspectives with our team, and how their voice is heard, and we'll include how to participate in. Ah, those efforts

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: in our canvassing, and we'll be reaching out to those who have taken the business survey. You can also reach out to us if you'd like to participate.

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: And lastly, the Committee Survey is both still open, and please do take it and share with your neighbors community networks. We we really really appreciate everything that the beneficiency has done so far to help us boost the signal Um! And if you have specific recommendations somewhere else to send our team. Please let us know.

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: And I think with that we'll say, Thank you for for so much time, especially so late. And here's the Info on how to reach us, and and we'd be happy to take any questions.

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jim murez: Thank you. Okay. So I assume that you're the last speaker in your group.

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jim murez: Is that right?

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Clare Eberle, LADOT: That's right. Okay, Great. So i'm going to capture the screen back from you.

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jim murez: Um.

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jim murez: And now we'll go back to our our

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jim murez: um meeting format.

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jim murez: Let's see here we we Ah!

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jim murez: We ran out of time, which is fine. We expected that,

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jim murez: I think. Now what we have. Let me just see, I forget we have a motion. It was made by Robert, seconded by Vicki, and we now need to take

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jim murez: a public comment.

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jim murez: So you guys are welcome to stay on the you. La do. T folks are welcome to stay online, and and you have questions come up that we need to ask or something. We'll call on you as as it goes on. Okay, and we're gonna let the public speak Now and then we'll come back to

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jim murez: deliberating of whatever we go forward with.

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jim murez: Okay, we've got quite a few hands up. Give me one second. I need to reset the clock. I don't think we want to give everybody ten minutes

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jim murez: part where

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jim murez: it says what it is.

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Vicki Halliday: Now we've got a couple of dozen hands up. So

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jim murez: okay,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: did you call on me?

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jim murez: Not yet hang on in one. Sec.

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jim murez: Okay, Call on the first speaker, please. Okay,

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Vicki Halliday: Sarah Waters hand is up. For what reason?

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The public comment

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Can you hear me. Yes. Why don't you go ahead, Sarah? Because it's very confusing. Because you're also a panelist. I'm sorry. So why don't you go first? And then i'll start the list.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, Very briefly. I would like to support Robert's motion. I believe that even though they may have tried to do a lot of public outreach. I use Venice Boulevard all the time because of my travels, and I have not heard anything about this until now. So clearly Public outreach was not sufficient.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Thanks, Robert, for the motion.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Okay, uh First speaker, till stiggers, please go ahead.

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Till Stegers: I thank you for the opportunity to speak. I'm a stakeholder. Here i'm strongly in favor of the project. I use Venice for my commute daily,

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Till Stegers: and often I get cut off my drivers, who go into the biking not protected, and at times, when I try to take the bus, the bus gets stuck in traffic among a single occupancy car. As you know, there's like eighty people on the bus

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Till Stegers: uh, which really makes no sense. So it's really a transformational project that's really amazing. And I think L. I do T. For its sense of outreach. Um! I was at the the workshop meeting that was like heavily, heavily attended with many, many people commenting in favor of the project. So I I really strongly urge you to um vote against that motion, or or put it down and support this project. Um! We are on the clock here with the resurfacing schedule,

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Till Stegers: and so three d time to improve menace and bring those deaths and severe injuries down and do something about climate change. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Um. Next up, Sean O'brien Shawn. Go ahead.

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Sean Obrien: Yeah. I ah support the motion. I hate the ah idea of Ah, a couple of things that come to mind. This is an evacuation room. So now now they're talking about choking an evacuation route for the sake of ah of shortening a bus time for three minutes

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Sean Obrien: on a four mile journey. It's ridiculous. They're taking away a lot of parking on a corridor Now, where the Toc is. You know they're They're building all these units where they don't have to provide parking.

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Sean Obrien: And now they're taking more street working away. They're doing this on purpose last minute, because they knew there would be opposition. Their outreach is abysmal. If you look at their numbers that was on their slide

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Sean Obrien: presentation, you know you're talking about millions of people a week drive that thoroughfare, and they only had a couple like thirty thousand.

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Sean Obrien: But anyways, thank you. My time's up.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Sean. Uh go, puppet. Go ahead, please.

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Vicki Halliday: Good puppet.

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Vicki Halliday: We got a lot of hands up. I'll come back to you.

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Vicki Halliday: Um, Yolanda, Please go ahead.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: Yes, this Yolanda on Silas. When I live here on Venice, I think this is a bunch of crap.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: First of all we live, we are. There's only two ways in and two out of Venice, if we have an emergency and a so-called tsunami which I am being charged for a three thousand dollars policy right now mandated that it doesn't make sense to me. Second of all,

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Yolanda Gonzalez: they should come and do a physical presentation. On this we have a lot of young people making decisions on us, and they have no idea what the hell they're doing.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: The other day I had to go down Venice and Venice was blocked off over there on national, because something terrible had happened. We had to go through Culver City, and you know, what have you seen? The road diets that Culver City has put in on a one lane to get to the freeway.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: This is absolutely terrible, and last, but not least, it's unsafe. It's, I'd say, riding on the bus. It sounds safe. Covid changed everything for us.

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jim murez: Yolanda. You're over your Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Uh, John, Go ahead.

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Jon: Hello, yes, thank you. Um. Let's all just be honest about this. We hate bike links in Venice because we're rich white car owners, and we don't give a shit about where people are transit users. There's no amount of debt that would convince us to give up parking spaces, and certainly not if the deaths of course are non-white. I mean there's no amount of community outreach that they could do, that we would be happy with, I mean, more people participated in their community survey than voted in the entire Venice State or a Council election.

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Jon: I mean killing this by saying they didn't do enough. Community outreach is total bs. Let's just own our truth. We don't want bike lanes in Venice. We're car people we hate by people. We make the bores, and we don't want them in our neighborhood. We should just throw away the pretense of not enough community outreach. Sarah didn't hear about it. Oh, my God! And just give just be the great, honest people of Venice that we are. We shouldn't give up one single parking space to the poorest, and I know you all agree with me. Which is why i'm confident that you will all go

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Jon: for this motion. Let's be Venice People like you, John. We hate the port

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Vicki Halliday: uh August miller. Go ahead, please.

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Auguste Miller: Hi! I'm! Not a poor, thankfully, but i'm

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Auguste Miller: i'm going to thank the my back and the team for the very thorough presentation. I um think the motion should be rejected. I think the project should move forward. I do not have a car, but as my own decision I bike through Venezuela bar. I think if you don't understand the flywheel that's moving, and the need to reduce parking. You Don't, have a full picture of what we're trying to do here, and I think it's a great example that should be followed. Thank you very much.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Ah, guarantee! Go ahead, please.

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Karen T: Hello, Dennis and Lincoln Resident. I take the thirty three bus down Venice boulevard for work every day. It's quite packed. It's It's no sitting room whatsoever.

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Vicki Halliday: Oh, sorry!

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jim murez: Do we lose her? Yeah, it was my fault. Sorry. Go ahead,

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Karen T: Karen. There you go. Okay, I was just. We put time back on your clock. Go ahead, Karen.

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Karen T: Okay, Um, I ride the thirty, three bus every single day it's packed. There's almost no sitting room that ever we're pack clicks or deans in there.

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Karen T: We desperately need more bus service faster bus service. It it can't continue like this. I need to be able to get to work. Hundreds of people need to be able to get to work.

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Karen T: Um! This is I first heard about this project two years ago. Maybe I ran into La do t talking to people at my bus stop.

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Karen T: So the the idea that they're not talking to people just because it's not You doesn't mean anything, so I hope you'll do the right thing and not delay these very important safety measures also. Why is Jim Mirrors laughing at me?

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Um!

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Vicki Halliday: Let's see Austin Brown. Please go ahead.

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Austin Brown: Hi! I live in brooks in Maine. I really take thirty three to robbery bus around my bike everywhere. I used to look across from

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Austin Brown: um. I guess I really appreciate everyone's enthusiasm. Pickle ball. It was so much fun. Thank you for all that. Two and a half hour conversation about it. I appreciate the B. And C. For Doc trying to delay this conversation happening. That's great. Um! As much people care about pick a ball I care about getting to the farmer's Market alive.

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Austin Brown: It's about three mile trip from my house about fifteen minute. Bike ride. Venice is

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Austin Brown: infuriating. It's frightening. People are driving seventy miles an hour down that road.

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Austin Brown: We don't really need a six Lane highway down the middle of our neighborhood. I don't feel like the pro solutions from the city go far enough.

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Austin Brown: Plastic bollards, plastic posts. Don't really keep cars out of the bike lane. But I appreciate the city's work on this fully appreciate what they're doing and support the changes on Venice Boulevard. Thank you. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Um, Helen, please go ahead.

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Helen Fallon: You know I support the motion primarily, because

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Helen Fallon: the the palms and C clearly wasn't elected by Venice to represent us, and they have been driving this conversation for two years, And we got This is our primary. We all know we're basically the most impacted by what happens,

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Helen Fallon: because we only have one way to go

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Helen Fallon: to go East

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Helen Fallon: and to come home going west. I I don't believe that we should be disrupting traffic on best school of bar for a handful of is at least I am for dedicated on bus lines, because that does represent mass transit. Bicycles are not mass transit

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Helen Fallon: and putting in those got awful ugly Ballards up and down Dennis Boulevard. It does nothing but aesthetically infuse everybody, and it also is difficult for seniors to navigate, because you have to park away from the curve, and you have to go up over the curve and cross the bike lane.

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Helen Fallon: Think you're taking into account people with physical disabilities and wheelchairs. And

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Vicki Halliday: thank you, Helen.

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Vicki Halliday: Um. Next up, Rob, Go ahead, please.

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Rob K: Hi, Robert, to live close. Ah! Two houses away from Venice Boulevard in Marvista. I'm. Really excited about the project. Would love to be able to jump on the thirty three to go to the beach or to go to downtown Culver City really am excited about the project really

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Rob K: out of La dot's outreach. There's always more that you can do on the outreach side, but love the project

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Rob K: as a cyclist. I think there's some wins. But for a mass transit addition I think it's really the right way to go. So thank you, Venice, for opposing this motion and supporting the led ot project. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Rob.

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Vicki Halliday: Um, Erica Moore, please go ahead.

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Erica Moore: So I happen to be a business owner on the corridor in between Beethoven and Lincoln. Last week, when I called in. When this was presented, I made it really clear that no one has reached out to me that have been here for almost forty years. We are small businesses, and we rely on being able to have our customers part of our business

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Erica Moore: to have our delivery trucks be able to deliver products to us. I can tell you right now, with the high density buildings that are going on Caddy Corner to me, and two doors down for me. They've already removed

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Erica Moore: two blocks of parking. We have a very serious problem here. Nobody has outreach to me. They still have an outreach to me since last week. I know for a fact, the community behind me,

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Erica Moore: and need to be talked to. Please. Thank you.

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Erica Moore: Thank you, Erica. The board, the motion

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Oh,

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Vicki Halliday: uh, Steve M. Go ahead, please.

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steve m: Hey? Yeah, thanks. I'm. Just calling to say I support the Venice all of our improvements I would like to highlight, though. Best thing about a bike Lane Bus Lane is at the event of an emergency. You just drive down the It's a reserve lane for ambulances and fire trucks, skips, all the gridlock being done. I don't support The motion is written,

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steve m: and there has been sufficient outreach to implement what should be an administrative effort. So thank you for the time for you to turn down the motion.

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Vicki Halliday: Thanks. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Um. Let's see. Here's Selena. Please go ahead,

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Vicki Halliday: Selena

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Vicki Halliday: Selena, are you? Are you in the room?

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Vicki Halliday: I'll come back to her. Um,

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Vicki Halliday: Michael Schneider, please go ahead,

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Michael Schneider: everybody.

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Michael Schneider: I would like to remind everyone that there used to be a train in the middle of Venice Boulevard. That's why it's so wide. Nearly Every other. Major Street in La has two lanes for cars, and they work just fine except Apprentice Boulevard. It does have this extra lane.

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Michael Schneider: Everybody complains about the traffic. If we actually gave people safer options to get around that weren't a car, they might use them. Everybody that chooses to use an efficient bus. Everybody that chooses to ride a bike in a protected bike lane is one less car you're fighting with on the road.

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Michael Schneider: And lastly, I just want to second that point about emergency vehicles.

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Michael Schneider: Bus lanes are fantastic for emergency vehicles,

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Michael Schneider: ambulances and fire trucks can fly through and past cars, especially at rush hour to get to where they need to go a lot faster. I urge you to reject this motion and support the project.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Um. Let's see John T. Please go ahead.

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Yeah, I opposed your motion. I write it.

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John T: My office is on Wade and

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John T: Venice,

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John T: and it's two lanes there. The only portion that's three lanes, is from Beethoven to Lincoln, which by the High School. This is a great project. Please support it.

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John T: Thanks. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Ah, Kalani, please go ahead.

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): I have been involved in this fight since the Amar Vista Vision Zero Project. This project I opposed this project. I support this motion. This project is being rushed through it. Wasn't brought to the Pnc. Until mid-june It wasn't brought in front of the Mvcc. Until late June. The only canvassing they've been doing is at the Marvista farmers market, and they have not included Cd. Ten,

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): the fifty eight Deaths. That was in ten years, and we don't know how many of those deaths in

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): occurred in Cd. Ten. It's no coincidence that they're rushing this through for a November launch before the new Council is seated. While corrects opposed this while he was still running for office. He now supports it, now that he's vacating the office, and we all know Bonnie's being forced out. This is just another Vista del Mar, a waste of taxpayer dollars because it's been rushed through and keep.

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Yes,

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Vicki Halliday: um Let's see Mark. Go ahead, please.

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Mark Chaisson: Hi um! I'm. The local stakeholder, and I frequently ride down Venice to go to all of the one of the restaurants that are along the streets. But i'm a bit of a rarity because I have a a tolerance level for more ah danger than most people.

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Mark Chaisson: Billy has been kicking the can down the road for safety and mobility improvements for many years, and what we've been left with are streets that are essentially either gridlocked or deadly.

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Mark Chaisson: I oppose this motion and support the increased safety and mobility on the

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Mark Chaisson: you know it's sort of like planting the the saying for planting a tree. The best time to have added safety and mobility was twenty years ago, but the next best to and safety and mobility is today.

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Mark Chaisson: Thank you. Thank you

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Vicki Halliday: uh that that

1935
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Vicki Halliday: Go ahead, please.

1936
04:09:16.800 --> 04:09:23.040
Bitta: Hi, there. I urge the board to reject this motion. I

1937
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Bitta: I have a daughter. She's three years old, and I She goes to preschool in Venice Boulevard, and my dream is to be able to bike her to school and not have to lug her over there in a gas, puzzling climate, damaging large vehicle.

1938
04:09:40.310 --> 04:09:47.059
Bitta: I think we all have these dreams of being able to get around the city without having to rely on cars

1939
04:09:47.180 --> 04:09:51.819
Bitta: someone mentioned. Oh, this is for a handful of bikes. Well, that's because this is a death Tr.

1940
04:09:52.020 --> 04:09:57.890
Bitta: No one feels comfortable writing there because it's unsafe. It's part of the high injury network

1941
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Bitta: also to dismiss fifty, eight deaths is just chilling, and we've heard that multiple times at these meetings.

1942
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Bitta: One of their comment I just want to make is that so many more people can access businesses by bike, and as pedestrians than whizzing by in a car, so this idea that it's bad for business is just wrong. Totally flawed.

1943
04:10:19.770 --> 04:10:21.659
Vicki Halliday: Thank thank you. Beta.

1944
04:10:22.610 --> 04:10:26.439
Vicki Halliday: Um, Jeff Stern, please go ahead.

1945
04:10:29.680 --> 04:10:38.180
Jeff Stern: Hi! I live a few blocks from Venice Boulevard, and I support the La Dot project, and I urge you all to reject this motion. Thank you.

1946
04:10:39.000 --> 04:10:40.410
Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Jeff.

1947
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Vicki Halliday: Um good Pepper. You want to go ahead.

1948
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Goat Puppet: Yes, and again you don't want to ride a bike. Yes, the President knows they're dangerous,

1949
04:11:00.610 --> 04:11:03.589
Goat Puppet: and as we get older and we're all getting on

1950
04:11:04.150 --> 04:11:11.520
Goat Puppet: the safest way for us elderly and older people to drive, but we can't do it. We,

1951
04:11:11.800 --> 04:11:13.389
Goat Puppet: because of my

1952
04:11:18.950 --> 04:11:27.720
Goat Puppet: Don't Page, Bike Bonnet, The City council hates Mike Bonnet, His mother hates my bonnet. Everybody on the

1953
04:11:27.750 --> 04:11:31.940
Goat Puppet: call each Mike Bonnet, and who invented this crotch.

1954
04:11:32.820 --> 04:11:35.529
Goat Puppet: Hey, You're right, Mike Bonnet. Yes,

1955
04:11:35.700 --> 04:11:37.739
Goat Puppet: with the final kick of the ass.

1956
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Goat Puppet: No, and vote you.

1957
04:11:47.300 --> 04:11:48.359
Goat Puppet: I'm doing my

1958
04:11:48.390 --> 04:11:48.890
and to

1959
04:11:48.900 --> 04:11:50.610
Goat Puppet: thank you the puppet.

1960
04:11:50.730 --> 04:11:52.049
Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

1961
04:11:52.400 --> 04:11:54.520
Goat Puppet: Ah forbidden

1962
04:11:54.530 --> 04:11:56.379
Vicki Halliday: me. Uh, please go ahead.

1963
04:12:00.520 --> 04:12:06.640
Mia: Hi! I'm! I live in the neighborhood as well, and I think it's very important to

1964
04:12:06.710 --> 04:12:24.799
Mia: support this project, and obviously i'm against this motion. Um! I think this is the right thing for public safety. It's clearly going to benefit the majority of our community. Um between bus writers, bike riders. It's about making things successful for everyone

1965
04:12:24.920 --> 04:12:42.810
Mia: there. The data is there to show that this is the right path forward, both for our community and our planet, for businesses, for everyone. And we just need to embrace the change that is coming for us, because it's only us better off. So I strongly support this project.

1966
04:12:43.550 --> 04:12:44.749
Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

1967
04:12:45.220 --> 04:12:48.810
Vicki Halliday: Um, Lisa Redmond, Go ahead, please.

1968
04:12:50.780 --> 04:13:04.839
Lisa Redmond: Yeah, i'm totally against this motion, and I really hope that those people on the board are listening right now to all the people that have waited for four hours for this motion.

1969
04:13:04.850 --> 04:13:24.760
Lisa Redmond: This is how important it is, and the majority of people calling in are for the improvements on Venezuela, and are against the Cis. The ridiculousness of calling this. If there's a tsunami and we need an evacuation, of course they're going to make west. Mountain lanes become eastbound lanes, so everybody can get out.

1970
04:13:25.970 --> 04:13:33.259
Lisa Redmond: This is something we need now, and no one can deny that during the pandemic for the last two years, when most people were stuck at home,

1971
04:13:33.980 --> 04:13:38.869
Lisa Redmond: bicycle writing has gone up, and that coincided with the

1972
04:13:39.160 --> 04:13:55.579
Lisa Redmond: um accessibility of e bites. Now people are going back to work and going to stores and using the world again, and they want to use bikes. We need to have the improvements that are long, long overdue for the future. Thank you. Thank you.

1973
04:13:56.060 --> 04:13:58.760
Vicki Halliday: Um. Are you?

1974
04:13:59.030 --> 04:14:00.559
Vicki Halliday: Go ahead, please,

1975
04:14:04.020 --> 04:14:14.240
Arya Rahimian: hey? I just have one question about the dedicated bus Lane. Is it going to be dedicated to buses twenty four hours, or

1976
04:14:14.340 --> 04:14:22.279
Arya Rahimian: is it just only during the Russia hour. The same way Wilshire Boulevard has dedicated bus plane, but it's only limited to rush hour.

1977
04:14:23.500 --> 04:14:24.750
Thank you,

1978
04:14:25.600 --> 04:14:28.940
Vicki Halliday: Selena. Are you you here now.

1979
04:14:30.720 --> 04:14:32.100
Vicki Halliday: Selena.

1980
04:14:32.350 --> 04:14:55.520
Selena Inouye: Hi, yes, i'm here. Um! I am the Venice representative to the West Side Regional Alliance of Councils Mobility and Transportation Committee. I am also the chair of that committee. This committee started in February of two thousand and twenty one. But the first time we talked about this project was in August,

1981
04:14:55.530 --> 04:15:11.960
Selena Inouye: both Eric Ruins and Jay Greenstein transportation deputies for Cd. Eleven and five came to our meeting in June, and didn't mention this project at all. Iraq is a place to talk about regional mobility projects like this,

1982
04:15:11.970 --> 04:15:31.050
Selena Inouye: and I don't understand why no one brought this up until now. This motion is about everyone having equal input on how this project is designed. Not just the Palms Neighborhood Council and not a special interest group who influenced the Palms Neighborhood Council.

1983
04:15:31.060 --> 04:15:38.520
Selena Inouye: Please vote Yes, on this motion, so that every voice is heard. Thank you. Thank you, Selina.

1984
04:15:38.790 --> 04:15:46.900
Vicki Halliday: Ah, we've got two more speakers af and then Margaret Melloy, and then That's it for public comment. Af: go ahead, please.

1985
04:15:52.690 --> 04:15:53.900
Vicki Halliday: Hey? F:

1986
04:15:59.530 --> 04:16:18.860
Margaret Molloy: Okay, No response. Margaret. Why, don't you go ahead. We'll go back. Okay, Thank you. Ah, I have a bunch of comments. Really, um, this motion doesn't say anything about what? The impact like? Nothing. There's no indication of what the content of the proposal is, which I think is really poor,

1987
04:16:18.870 --> 04:16:24.060
Margaret Molloy: and the presenters also don't tell us anything about the

1988
04:16:24.290 --> 04:16:46.690
Margaret Molloy: the impact of the the original street narrowing and bike lane. So why wasn't that presented so? I do think there needs to be a community meeting. But I personally do not think, thenc is the medium. You do not represent the majority of the long-term and diverse community. And you do not represent the ridership of these buses.

1989
04:16:46.700 --> 04:17:04.950
Margaret Molloy: Ninety three percent of people of color, Eighty two percent do not own a car rely on the bus service ninety eight percent Tag Metro at least several times per week. It's also a generational issue. A lot of the complainers sound like old codgers. I don't hear you complaining about the removal of parking, for

1990
04:17:04.960 --> 04:17:09.490
Margaret Molloy: you know these al fresco dining. But you do for this

1991
04:17:09.500 --> 04:17:11.990
Margaret Molloy: community for him, but not this. Thank you.

1992
04:17:12.000 --> 04:17:13.070
Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

1993
04:17:13.310 --> 04:17:16.560
Vicki Halliday: Um, af one more time,

1994
04:17:16.800 --> 04:17:18.350
Vicki Halliday: are you there?

1995
04:17:21.890 --> 04:17:26.159
Vicki Halliday: I guess af is not there. So, Jim, it's back to you.

1996
04:17:26.520 --> 04:17:29.550
jim murez: Thank you, Vicki. That was a lot of public comment.

1997
04:17:29.760 --> 04:17:40.190
jim murez: Um! I was just going to quickly answer one of the questions that I do know the answer to Yes, the Bus lane is twenty, four, seven. It's not like the one on Wilshire.

1998
04:17:40.260 --> 04:17:45.909
jim murez: Eric, You have your hand up. Did you want to wrap up anything here?

1999
04:17:45.920 --> 04:18:15.190
jim murez: Yeah, just just prior to the board deliberations. I know It's latent, and everybody um would like to to move on with their evenings. Um, I I did just want to say that you know the way the motion is is worded. It asks for more, but it doesn't actually tell us what that means, and I think we're as a city. We We try to be as responsive as we can to the to the letters that we get um from from the neighborhood council. Um, but it's very difficult to do that if we don't understand what things mean. And so we we have outlined tonight. Um the past

2000
04:18:15.200 --> 04:18:44.349
Eric Bruins (CD11): for the next couple of weeks to deeply engage Venice, which in my mind is is more, we're going deep with the East Finest Neighborhood association. When we're going in the farming market, we're talking to the businesses again, Erica. I promise that we will. We will talk to you as part of the ongoing canvassing in the next couple of weeks. Um, but we we need to know what that actually means to you. Um, because without that guidance. What we face is a clock on the resurfacing where a decision has to get made,

2001
04:18:44.360 --> 04:18:54.969
Eric Bruins (CD11): and we don't know whether we can actually be responsive to you if we don't know what you mean, so please tell us who is that is left out that you would like us to reach out to,

2002
04:18:54.980 --> 04:19:15.079
Eric Bruins (CD11): and we have gone. We have accepted every single invitation to speak with any group that has asked, and we have reached out to again, you know. Send out fourteen thousand mailers. We got three hundred and fifty people to a meeting one thousand six hundred survey responders. This project has gotten the highest engagement Numbers of any dot project in history,

2003
04:19:15.090 --> 04:19:29.089
Eric Bruins (CD11): and so like, we can always do more. But we need to know what that means to you. So I I do encourage the board and your deliberations to please provide very specific feedback about what you mean by more engagement. Thank you.

2004
04:19:29.100 --> 04:19:32.310
So, Eric, let me just quickly ask you a question When? Ah!

2005
04:19:32.340 --> 04:19:41.740
jim murez: When when your office closed down Vista del Mar to to one lane in either direction, did they repave the road at the time

2006
04:19:43.480 --> 04:19:52.079
Eric Bruins (CD11): they did not. That that's what I thought. Okay, So they can make these kinds of changes, whether the road is repaved or not.

2007
04:19:52.550 --> 04:20:00.639
Eric Bruins (CD11): There is what about when they went through Mart Vista, did they repave the road at that time? I don't believe they did. They put in new crosswalks.

2008
04:20:00.650 --> 04:20:09.190
Eric Bruins (CD11): Marvista was was resurfaced. The section from Lincoln to the four hundred and five has been resurfaced, and the resurfacing on the great street was coordinated with that project,

2009
04:20:09.200 --> 04:20:25.139
jim murez: and and one last quick question for you. Um wasn't. This project originally conceived of. When the Councilman went to the State Caltrans and asked for relinquishment of highway one hundred and eighty seven.

2010
04:20:25.330 --> 04:20:29.209
jim murez: That was my understanding when he made his public outcry

2011
04:20:29.420 --> 04:20:39.019
jim murez: that now the city would be able to start realigning and and changing how the traffic flowed through there. It seems to me that this project has been going on for ten years

2012
04:20:39.150 --> 04:20:58.090
Eric Bruins (CD11): as as presented in the presentation. There has been mobility plans for Venice. You could go to the city's citywide mobility plan. You could go to the two thousand and ten bike plan. You could go to the two thousand and seventeen West Side mobility plan you could. You could look at any number of planning documents over the years that have pushed the city in this direction,

2013
04:20:58.100 --> 04:21:06.289
jim murez: including the livable boulevard's plan that went through its own engagement. This is basically the cross-section that was included in that community plan as well,

2014
04:21:06.300 --> 04:21:24.050
jim murez: and one of the people mentioned the train used to run down Dennis Boulevard. I'm wondering if you looked at the entitlements of the railroad right of way when it was turned over to the city, which I believe, occurred. A ridge of the the first time was in one thousand nine hundred and two,

2015
04:21:24.060 --> 04:21:43.099
jim murez: and there was actually a recorded covenant on some of the properties. And then again, I think it happened in twenty-five um when the city of Los Angeles took over the city of Venice, because it was all part of a property ownership that went along with Venice. Do you know, if that was ever included in any of these studies.

2016
04:21:43.850 --> 04:22:01.050
Eric Bruins (CD11): I'm not sure specifically with you by including those studies I mean those covenants for for transit service and for a train service specifically would have expired with the dissolution of the electric railroad. And so that's that's not what the title says. It says it was it didn't? Say train service, it, said passenger service.

2017
04:22:03.170 --> 04:22:08.789
Eric Bruins (CD11): Okay, I mean, that's the passenger access to the community of Venice, anyway. All right. So you don't have the answer to that,

2018
04:22:08.800 --> 04:22:20.370
Eric Bruins (CD11): Right? I mean this. This project is designed to to restore a level of transit priority service to the community of Venice that hasn't existed since the electric red car ran down the median.

2019
04:22:20.380 --> 04:22:22.690
jim murez: So putting bicycles, Okay, and everyone

2020
04:22:22.700 --> 04:22:30.159
jim murez: Okay, Why, Don't, we let some of the other people who have their hands up and and we'll come back to you if we have more questions for you. Thank you, Eric.

2021
04:22:30.610 --> 04:22:33.479
jim murez: Um solid. Ed. You have your hand up first. Go ahead.

2022
04:22:33.490 --> 04:23:02.409
Soledad Ursua: Okay. So I want to thank everyone who sent us emails today. Ah, but I don't know about majority. Maybe at least eighty percent. Were non-benefit stakeholders, and I thought about it, you know, if I were in your position, if I lived in, you know Del Rey, or Culver, or Vista, I really bow in the same way that you did exactly the same way, but it made me think about my route, so i'm going to represent my family in case L. A. And a Mona, which is forty five miles in it.

2023
04:23:02.420 --> 04:23:25.059
Soledad Ursua: So we spend an hour and a half each way to the beach, so we can't bike to the Beach and Venice Beach is second to Disneyland and tourism in California. Why is that? Because the beach is free? So the beach of L. A. Is the beach of minority on working-class families, and without proper community engagement by the city. I'm going to vote to delay this vote.

2024
04:23:25.070 --> 04:23:46.350
Soledad Ursua: Um, i'm not going to reduce traffic language, just to make a bunch of white privileged yuppie bikers happy. So, without engagement by the city, to show us how this really affects Venice beach community and just the overall community, we host ten million annually. So I will both delay this until we get really good verification of the city, and we'll engage that. Thank you

2025
04:23:46.440 --> 04:24:08.570
jim murez: solid, and let me ask a question because it was something that Eric brought up. Um! How much time do you think would be proper for for us to ask um. They They started in June, and they waited until the end of the tail end of their input process. They They're giving us two weeks. They gave the other communities four months. How much time do you think we should ask?

2026
04:24:08.870 --> 04:24:36.289
Soledad Ursua: I mean, we're the ones who host the world. Remember, we host ten million annually. So we are this major tour assassination. We should get much more than they got, because we're the ones who bring in the world. I remember we have the ninety freeway, so it's not just people coming down, but it's forward. We have people coming off the ninety who are coming up with four hundred and five people from Northern and Southern California, so I think we need much more time to figure out how we can get communities apart in an out beach.

2027
04:24:36.420 --> 04:24:39.520
jim murez: Okay, Thank you, Jim Rob, Go ahead, please.

2028
04:24:41.270 --> 04:24:59.799
Jim Robb: Quick. Ah, thing that I thought from Eric and I I know my friend, My friend Jill owned the Marvist and Mar Vista, which was a great little restaurant, and Demetrius and all those, and when they took the lanes out of Marvist that those businesses all close. So that's my first concern with the store, like Eric, as it's

2029
04:24:59.810 --> 04:25:03.449
Jim Robb: very small, and and not a lot of parking.

2030
04:25:03.790 --> 04:25:05.909
Jim Robb: Excuse me. The other thing is,

2031
04:25:05.920 --> 04:25:32.649
Jim Robb: I know that in the Venice community plan and the L. A. Community plan, that Venice Boulevard is slated for mixed use, commercial residential. Ah! Where a lot of apartments are going to go up with Ah, with retail on the bottom, and I know looking at some of the loo-pack things that if it's a eighty eighty unit apartment, they only have to provide forty units of parking. Which it. Means Parking is going to be down every one of those streets,

2032
04:25:32.660 --> 04:25:34.739
Jim Robb: so i'm i'm i'm, i'm

2033
04:25:35.660 --> 04:25:57.580
Jim Robb: i'm concerned about all those I i'd like the idea, and I like the ridership of the buses. But I've seen business go down in Mar Vista because of this Ah! Of this traffic set up that they did, and I know it's very confusing, and I know that with how they're building everything around here that they don't have provide enough marking for any of that. So

2034
04:25:57.590 --> 04:26:01.639
Jim Robb: you know i'd like to hear some of those answers how you're going to figure that part out.

2035
04:26:03.150 --> 04:26:05.710
jim murez: Thank you. Um, Mike.

2036
04:26:06.560 --> 04:26:12.249
Mike Bravo: Yeah, i'm pretty sure there's been. Talk about this for a while. I don't

2037
04:26:12.380 --> 04:26:24.640
Mike Bravo: it's. I don't think it's something new. It just popped up in the last few months, and it's going on. But it's a couple of years talking about the how to implement the mobility with a twenty, thirty, five plan or twenty, five, twenty, five, or thirty, five percent, or whatever it is.

2038
04:26:25.050 --> 04:26:42.999
Mike Bravo: Um! And also to I mean It's just at some point, you know. We have to kind of win ourselves off of automobiles and fossil fuels. So like this. I don't think what they're asking for is too much. It's very minimum. Make the bus system more efficient, and make the bike

2039
04:26:43.010 --> 04:26:57.890
Mike Bravo: uh planes more efficient. I don't think it's. It's a big spaces, and but I ask him for much, and I think people who are associated with Bonnets road died, or you know, a little disingenuous. So um, but not asking for much. So i'm going to pull against this motion.

2040
04:26:58.700 --> 04:27:01.990
jim murez: Thank you, Mike. Um, Clark, go ahead, please.

2041
04:27:02.000 --> 04:27:19.589
Clark Brown: I don't favor the motion. Ah, because I think it won't result in delay, and the ah the d o t presentation, I think. Ah pointed out the cost of delay there. Ah, very high instance of collisions. There's been a lot of injuries, and there's been some death,

2042
04:27:19.600 --> 04:27:28.020
Clark Brown: so delay is uh is costly. The The public opinion on this, I think, favors the motion,

2043
04:27:28.090 --> 04:27:43.009
Clark Brown: or i'm sorry, favors the project, and it's not. It would not be in favor of the motion. My Ah, Dnc. Gmail account. It had emails today of seventeen people in opposition

2044
04:27:43.240 --> 04:28:01.329
Clark Brown: Ah! Or in opposition to the motion, and only zero people in favor of the motion. The ah speakers today. There were eight people in favor of the motion, and fourteen in opposition to the motion. So I think this project should go ahead.

2045
04:28:01.890 --> 04:28:04.180
jim murez: Thank you, Clark Jay. Go ahead, please.

2046
04:28:04.670 --> 04:28:06.119
jay : Yeah. So

2047
04:28:06.340 --> 04:28:08.440
jay : Ah, wow,

2048
04:28:08.860 --> 04:28:23.830
jay : yeah, There's a lot of people who are in favor of the motion, but they don't live in Venice, and you know they may travel through Venice, but they don't live in and are impacted in Venice, being a retailer, knowing how bus lanes affect retailers.

2049
04:28:23.840 --> 04:28:40.679
jay : Ah retail! You know you start. A community is built on schools and then retail, and when when the schools are are hard enough, and then the retail has to fail because of things that are imposed on them. Ah, it makes it very difficult.

2050
04:28:40.810 --> 04:28:43.210
jay : So, from my perspective

2051
04:28:43.330 --> 04:28:54.350
jay : Number one, I think this committee this board should vote that we postponed for ninety days any decision on this motion

2052
04:28:54.400 --> 04:28:58.949
jay : uh with the caveat that we will hold a town hall,

2053
04:28:58.980 --> 04:29:02.660
jay : and we will bring the Venetians into the Town hall,

2054
04:29:02.750 --> 04:29:15.090
jay : and yes, the bike people will come. I've I've seen them in every part of the city when bike lanes are being proposed from Herman to the Figaro corridor all the way around. They come in mass,

2055
04:29:15.160 --> 04:29:33.960
jay : but they're not the people who are here and deal with it every day, so I I would move that we postponed this for ninety days with the caveat, that outreach and all Will and the board will put together a town hall to discuss this mobility plan objectively.

2056
04:29:33.970 --> 04:29:47.809
jay : Okay, the pros and cons, and then come back and vote whatever the best decision is to vote. But let me be clear about the comment about this is costly and deaths.

2057
04:29:48.150 --> 04:30:02.790
jay : Ah, Vision Zero has had more deaths than Prior. It's actually zero vision. Okay, vision. Zero has not worked. There have been more deaths with vision zero than Prior.

2058
04:30:02.850 --> 04:30:30.029
jay : So I think we have to be careful talking about. You know the cost of lives by putting this by not putting this in, when, in fact, putting some of these things in has cost more lives than not putting it in, so my motion would be. I would I would move an alternate motion, and that is that we post phone for ninety days, and we hold the Town Hall as a neighborhood council

2059
04:30:30.040 --> 04:30:39.389
jay : to let the Venetians come out and let them give us their opinion on this mobility plan,

2060
04:30:39.400 --> 04:30:59.179
jim murez: Jay. I want to let the other Board members speak before we start creating alternate motions. Um, I don't think that it's having one Town hall is not going to resolve the problem. There's a whole myriad of things that I heard, and I'm aware of

2061
04:30:59.190 --> 04:31:09.809
jim murez: that would need to be proposed to the people who are putting this together. I mean, you know, when I hear the majority of the community from one of the speakers,

2062
04:31:09.820 --> 04:31:39.679
jim murez: they didn't show us any data at all about how many cars past that same corridor during that same period of time over the four months. How many cars passed through the quarter between the various intersections that go there? I mean, you know, if we're going to take into consideration, putting together a motion to have a town hall where we're locally going to decide on something that stretches along our primary corridor in and out of the community. It seems to me that we ought to have all of the data, not just the glossy stuff that says they got

2063
04:31:39.690 --> 04:31:52.819
jim murez: one thousand two hundred responses on their survey, or three thousand five hundred hits on their web page, but that there were three million cars that went through those intersections during that same period of time, and they're barely looking at one tenth of one,

2064
04:31:52.830 --> 04:32:08.389
jim murez: and I want to find out what they're real, and i'm just making those numbers up. I don't anybody to be quoting me that I've said something that you know is so so. But you know there's a lot of information that needs to be flushed out, and having one Town Hall is not going to do that.

2065
04:32:08.400 --> 04:32:11.790
jay : But Jimmy just gave all the reasons for a postponement.

2066
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jim murez: Yeah, no, i'm not. I'm not disagreeing with you with the postponement. That's what this is asking. But but I think that I want to respond to to Eric's request, which is that we put some time limit on the on the period of time that it takes to do that, and I guess the only way that I would want to do that is, if we could get a commitment to to have more than one meeting with

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jim murez: with the Ot and the Council Office about what was to happen here, and I personally don't see the panic to getting it done. Clearly a lot of these improvements can be done after the road is repaved. Clearly this was the case, this to Del Mar, and it just coincidentally worked out nicely

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jim murez: for Mar Vista, where Councilman Bonnan lives. I mean, Yeah, let's look at the reality. We now have two downtown districts with Mar Vista, one at Washington and and Santanella, and another one at Venice Boulevard and said, No. And what happened? Folks over at Washington?

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jim murez: A lot of the businesses there like B. And b hardware aren't there anymore. Now, picks true value. Hardware is the big primary hardware store. So you know, Yeah, things are shifting community shifting gentrifications occurring as traffic slows down along Dennis Boulevard. We all seen that happen. You know the new fancy restaurants are moving in, and the mom and pop shops are moving out, but I think we need to have a period of time, and that's what we need to um. I'm taking much too much time talking.

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jim murez: Sima, go ahead, please.

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Sima: Um. So

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Sima: I got involved in the Vnc. And in local politics because of what happened in Marvista. I traverse that corridor every single day. I'm a commuter. I've got kids that don't go to school in my neighborhood, and my son actually rides the bus. He rides the thirty, three and the r twelve when he can.

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Sima: You have to provide safe alternatives to the car culture, And I know you all talk about vision, zero or the vision, but it's a vision. We've lived it. We know what happened. We know all the businesses that got worked out. I urge everybody that sits there and says, Oh, it's just a couple of minutes. Yes, it's an inconvenience, but it also ruined Marvista. You have lines going north south on sentinel for miles as far as Ocean Park, and as far as

2074
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Sima: Culver City, and guess what everybody's snaking through the residential neighborhoods, and they're not happy.

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Sima: There has to be a better way to do this without taking out a third lane nobody is talking about. Oh, we don't want a safe bus route, but there has to be a better way, and the dot keeps bringing up cities that are far more compact, that have had

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Sima: a built-in infrastructure of public transportation that Don't have the same issues that Los Angeles has, namely, nothing reliable and safe yet. So Don't put the cart before the force, so to speak, and allow us that have lived this for over five years to have a say. So please let's postpone, and to a lot of the residents that have already spoken, I'm. In the Marina Peninsula

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Sima: There are five thousand of us that have no way to get in and out. We have one road that goes Pacific north, south, and then two lays on a good day going in and out. We are blocked in, and it is not fair to talk about the bus ridership in these blowing terms, because that's simply not the reality. So and you're discounting a large population of Venice that is elderly. That does not take the bus.

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jim murez: Okay, thank you, Sima.

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jim murez: Thank you, Vicki. You have your hand up.

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Vicki Halliday: Um, yeah, quickly. And I say, this is someone who has opted to not own a car, and I do everything by bicycle.

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Vicki Halliday: Ah, I feel like we've been strong-armed of this. I will vote

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Vicki Halliday: for this for a couple of reasons. I think more outward case to be done. Some town halls need to be done. I agree with J on that. I really resent the number of letters, and I read all the stuff that comes into the work from the public.

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Vicki Halliday: It was by and large on from poems and

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Vicki Halliday: places outside dentist, telling us how great this is, and how they wanted it, and sort of define us to, to, not to to even ask questions. So I think we are a damn well asked questions, and however we decide we're going to get those answers. I think we have to do that.

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jim murez: Thank you. Thank you. Vicki. Um, Robert, go ahead.

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robertthibodeau: You're muted, Robert. Yeah.

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robertthibodeau: A sec to get there to just put

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robertthibodeau: sort of context on it. Was that. Um

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robertthibodeau: we this for the talk of outreach, This really only came

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robertthibodeau: um on sort of our desk about a month ago, and that was in terms of the um last zoom public outreach that they did as a as a workshop.

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robertthibodeau: I attended that when it was brought to my attention, and I also put it on the Bnc. Or I had, Vicki helped me put it on the Vnc.

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robertthibodeau: A page there was fairly well attended. Not a whole lot of Venice people I was hoping more would show up,

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robertthibodeau: and then I

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robertthibodeau: complained to D ot that they hadn't reached out to Venice at least not to the. They may have reached out to Evna, but they hadn't reached out to the you know the official channels of the the Vnc.

2095
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robertthibodeau: Talk to us in terms of workshops and stuff, and the feedback, I've heard, has been mixed, you know some again definitely a lot for as well.

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robertthibodeau: Um.

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robertthibodeau: But the point of the motion was that we felt we had been not included in the

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robertthibodeau: um

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robertthibodeau: in sort of any sort of optionality or input in the design process, and even on this calls tonight not not to take too much time, was, you know, the gentleman who mentioned, you know. Would it be possible, or he raised it differently

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robertthibodeau: to have the bus lanes, you know, during certain hours which seems like a totally reasonable question, you know. Not necessarily, maybe an answer, but you know a totally reasonable question to ask, And then the other, I think it was also another gentleman. It might have been a woman.

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robertthibodeau: We said something about the aesthetics of the cones, which I completely agree with. I'm seeing those ugly white cones going up everywhere.

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robertthibodeau: You know. Our other options, you know, Are there? Is that all we can do?

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robertthibodeau: And with of the bike lanes, you know, layout of the stuff. Are. Are there any options I mean is this: It seems like a beta clumpy, and we're being told two weeks to, you know, write a letter into an email address.

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robertthibodeau: And so I guess really,

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robertthibodeau: Eric, what we're asking for is that, you know, we we have

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robertthibodeau: some sort of adequate amount of time and facility

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robertthibodeau: for for uh,

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robertthibodeau: input from the community. And I think that's a reasonable ask.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): I really do appreciate that. If I, if I may respond

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jim murez: No, no, No, not yet, not yet, not yet. We have other people that their hands follow. I need. I need to keep the meeting moving. Sorry, Um, Mikhail, you have your hand up.

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Michael: Yeah, thanks. So I would just say, I mean,

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Michael: people need to get out of their cars. Um,

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Michael: you know, this is not a surprising move for a city that is clogged with cars and building lanes does not make it better. It only makes it worse.

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Michael: So um! I don't want to belabor the point. Um, but I think I mean honestly, the people that want to delay this for more outreach opposed the whole concept of the road diet, or whatever you want to call it, a protective bike lanes.

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Michael: So I I think we should just call us bay to spade here, and if you pose it, you know. Say you oppose it. It's not for lack of outreach. This is, you know, the the road diet concept has been introduced to us like four years ago. So uh get out of your car and uh learn to bike or take a bus. Really, it's the ideal climate to bike everywhere. So. Um,

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Michael: that's my piece for it. I don't really support delaying it. I'd really just like to see this. Maybe they can be prettier. I agree. But

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Michael: That's it.

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jim murez: Okay, Jay, You still had your hand up.

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jim murez: Did you mean to still have your hand up?

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jay : No, sorry. Okay.

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jim murez: So do we have any other board. Comment.

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Soledad Ursua: Don't see the boat.

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jim murez: I wanted to give Eric a chance to. He had something else he wanted to say. I I think, Eric, just so. You know, I think probably what we want to do is assume that because this thing started three and a half months ago publicly.

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jim murez: Um. Is what the presentation, said that if we were to have ninety days like Jade suggested that that seems like that would probably give us enough time to have um. At least two committee meetings, and then a board meeting,

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jim murez: because of the way that our neighborhood council cycles, you know. We want to go through the committees first, and then and then go to the full board.

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Eric Bruins (CD11): Yeah, I definitely and understand the the desire for process. I wanted to respond to one thing that Robert said, which is, I think, a really important point for consideration, which is, he had a lot of questions about the specifics of the design, and one of, and and there the the process that a project like this follows is: there is an early decision to commit the resources to do the design, and then there, and that is a significant resource, expenditure. And so we generally only commit

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Eric Bruins (CD11): that level of design resources to answer the types of questions that Robert brought up after a decision has been made at a thirty thousand foot level to proceed with the project. And so there is a role for ongoing engagement. If the questions are about

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Eric Bruins (CD11): design details that can be worked out on a walk by box block level. What does this mean for this parking in front of that business. Can I get my loading zone? Where are the adh spaces going to go? All of those types of questions are design details that require a high level commitment to implementing the project, and then continued engagement through the process of design. And that's the That's the special that we're hitting at the end of this month is in order to hit the streets l a schedule and resurface, saying, We need to make that

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Eric Bruins (CD11): commitment to the to the high-level project scope

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Eric Bruins (CD11): at again around the end of this month, first week of October, and then we can continue to engage with folks that have specific design feedback, and that's kind of just the iteration of a project of this kind of scale and complexity. But I just wanted to clarify. What's what, what engagement are we looking for. What? What information are you trying to do? How can we align that with the city process about when that information would be available? So we can make sure that we're having productive conversations in the spaces that you're looking for

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Eric Bruins (CD11): to create. Thank you.

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jim murez: And so, Eric, I i'm going to just retaliate with with Ah! Respond to that with with with one point. If you've never read Chapter nine of the Charter,

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jim murez: it talks about the formation of neighborhood councils, and in specific I would suggest reading Section nine zero, seven, which talks about when the city is supposed to inform the Neighborhood Council before making before taking any action giving the Neighborhood Council ample time to respond. Now

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jim murez: you have to kind of tell me how that occurred when this thing was started years ago, because it was clearly put on somebody's agenda. And and you know

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jim murez: that's just a plain outright violation of the charter. I mean, that's violating our rights as a neighborhood council, so that public process started a long time ago in law,

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jim murez: but in practice it's only coming two weeks before the end. Cj: You raised your hand.

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CJ Cole: Yeah.

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CJ Cole: The only thing I want to say and

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CJ Cole: it frustrates me no end that as much as I drive around vest up and down Venice boulevard.

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CJ Cole: I rarely see anybody on the buses. The

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CJ Cole: you know. They may get filled up later on, but they do not get filled up in Venice either way, coming or going, so I don't know why we're so worried about the Bennett's aspect of it, if it needs to be further in inland. Fine. But It just is not unsuccessful, you know. Venture in Venice because nobody's on the buses.

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jim murez: Okay, um solidar Did you re-raise your hand?

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Soledad Ursua: Yes, I did and I just want to say we need the outreach, because in Venice we have really done our part for everything and everything that we've been promised. We've gotten the opposite of. So we need this outreach. We have this time to really figure it out so that we make sure that we really get our promise.

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jim murez: Okay, Thank you. Um! You know everybody's re-raising their hand We need to finish this up and take a vote. It's ten thirty five. But we still have other items on the agenda. Jim, do you have something brief and and important to say?

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Jim Robb: Very quick. I notice High rises going up where autozone and all that are. I want to know how they, how this whole formation with this tree goes to all the high rises, being built on leak in the apartment. That's Okay,

2146
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Jim Robb: so that would come out in a future meeting. If we have future meetings about it. Okay,

2147
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jim murez: let me go back to sharing the screen. Let's take a vote on this.

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jim murez: We've been kicking This can down the road long. Been off.

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jim murez: Um,

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Soledad Ursua: so it's just about delays. Isn't that correct?

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jim murez: Yeah, the vote The vote that's here now is to ask for the project to be delayed and to enter a community. Excuse me, a community impact statement

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jim murez: to to that effect. The community impact statement that would be entered. Because there's only a couple of options when you When you actually file these things, it's either support, opposed or opposed with modification. So in this case this would be opposed with modification

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jim murez: based on the way that the motion is written, because the modification, therefore, being we want to have more meetings, Jay. You wanted to

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jay : modify the motion to include a time. Um, do you want to do that at this time to just you know again, my my motion was a simple motion, and that is that we request a ninety day postponement on any decision making.

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jay : Ah! And to give the Vnc. The time to do outreach to its constituents on this project, similar to what was given to our neighboring neighborhood councils.

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jim murez: Right So are you saying, drop everything that's here now and just recreated. And are we going to include a community impact statement? Because I suspect that this

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Soledad Ursua: I think everything you're saying, Jay. If we just about to delay this, it basically does that because if we vote to delay it, it will put in the committee impact statement, and then it will give the department transportation time to reach out to us properly.

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jay : But I want the motion to specifically state a timeframe, you know. They can turn around and say, All right, We'll delay it two weeks, all right. We did what you wanted. We delayed it

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jay : so

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Soledad Ursua: that they can't be into the community impact statement. It's either a yes or no

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jay : right? It needs to be in our motion

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jay : that we want at least ninety days to, and we tell them. Why, to be able to reach out to our stakeholders and given the same amount of time that our neighboring neighborhood councils were given.

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jay : I think that's what makes sense,

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jay : And it may not be

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Soledad Ursua: for community impact statements, either. Yes or no. You can't right.

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jay : Oh, no, you can add in. You can do it by modification. You know It's yes, no or um modified. And this would be a modified. We want that. We want ninety days and specifically state, you know to.

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Soledad Ursua: Okay, Okay. Is there a second to your motion? Is there anybody who's in a second?

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Soledad Ursua: I don't hear a second. So let's go ahead with the vote. We there? Yes or no.

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jim murez: Okay. So is that correct? Jay's making a motion? I was trying to type it out. Is there anybody want to second it

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Sima: wait. Can we just hear the Jay's motion, please?

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jay : He's recommending postponement of the approval of the project for ninety days, so we can ah have have additional community Input: um with the to what our neighboring neighborhood councils were given.

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Soledad Ursua: Okay, I don't hear a second. Let's go into a vote

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jim murez: solar. Dad, let me let me run the meeting. Does everybody understand what the what Jay's motion is? And does anybody want a second?

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Sima: I'll second it, Jim.

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jim murez: That's Thank you

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jim murez: So Jay is making the motion.

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jim murez: Vicki seconded it.

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jim murez: Recommend similar Come on

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jim murez: similar similar. What similar

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jay : similar

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jay : approval of the project for ninety days to include

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jay : um similar outreal outreach

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jay : timing

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jay : was given to our neighboring neighborhood councils.

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jay : The bottom line is it's? Not for me. It's not about being for or against the project it's about. We have a responsibility to do the outreach, and to hear what our people have to say, and it may damn well be that everyone comes out and goes. I love it. Let's do it,

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jay : you know, and that's our responsibility is to go ahead and do what the people in our community want us to do, but they have to at least be informed

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Soledad Ursua: right. But if we just delayed it they would have to come back and do that by law. That's their job.

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jay : That's not true.

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jay : They don't have to delay it, and they probably won't delay it even with this.

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jay : But we'll be on record to our stakeholders, saying: We tried to protect them by giving them a voice, and the city won't. Give them the voice

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jay : we tried, but the city won't.

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jim murez: Okay, So we have a motion, and it was seconded.

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jim murez: Um, We have to take public comment on it. People.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, we've got several hands up. Um. Go puppet. Go ahead, please.

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jim murez: I'm going to reduce the amount of time this time. There's just not that much to be said. We've already heard about the project

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jim murez: you give me? Give me one second. I have to reset this clock.

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jim murez: Okay,

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jim murez: ghost puppet. I think that, he said. Hang on, I lose my window. Wouldn't do that? Okay, Go put it. Go ahead, please.

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Vicki Halliday: Are you still here?

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Goat Puppet: Yes, i'll be here at the very end.

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Goat Puppet: Yes, and again you see the astute nature of one j-handle who has went through hundreds of pages of corruption and turned his share of him in from what I heard Yes,

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Goat Puppet: and this is a terrible idea,

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Goat Puppet: but the j-handle motion must be supported.

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Goat Puppet: What's the addendum on the top?

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Goat Puppet: Everybody hates like Bonnet.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay, Thank you. Go.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Uh Yolanda. Please go ahead.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: I'm. In support of the motion, but if we do it for ninety days, that will take us up just until the end of December and December is when people are celebrating and being with their families, so they're going to pull this through Anyway,

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Yolanda Gonzalez: i'm not if i'm if i'm correct, and you know that when they try to do something in December it just gets pulled through in January.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you,

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Vicki Halliday: Uh, Selena, Please go ahead.

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Selena Inouye: Reality is is that we can make improvements to Venice Boulevard to improve, improve bike infrastructure, to put in a a peak hour bus rapid transit, lane, and we don't have to do a road diet. Mobility plan. Two thousand and thirty five, says bicycle enhanced network and bus rapid Transit Lane. It doesn't say road diet. We need time to talk about alternatives that L. A. D. Ot. Is not presenting to us.

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Selena Inouye: Please vote Yes, on this motion. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Selena Erika, please Go ahead.

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Erica Moore: Hi! I echo actually what just said I'm actually a bike rider, and i'm I am in favor of bike lanes, and I am in favor of

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Erica Moore: some of my staff has been riding the bus to my business from downtown for twenty five years, and they complain about the road diet because it slowed their bus right now. They had to start, leaving their house twenty minutes earlier.

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Erica Moore: So please support this motion. We absolutely need time to figure out the best way for us to have mobility here in Venice.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Um, John, please go ahead.

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Jon: I mean me. Kyle said it. Just let's admit that we don't want this project and stop pussyfooting around about the whole like Not enough comment time, or they didn't do enough outreach. I mean. Give me a break. Just listen to me, Kyle, like Jim shaking his head. But we all know he hates Bonnet, and he thinks this is a bonnet thing, and and and Look, we all hate gone, and bonnet's a shithead, but like let's stop lying. We don't want bike lanes like this is all bullshit.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Um Kalani. Please go ahead.

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): We have dedicated bus bike lanes on Bayona and Exposition. We are not opposed to bike lanes, but if by cyclists want more real estate on our roadways tax license and force them to register, and I support throwing down this project until a new council in downtown L. A. Is seated. This project is being rushed like this to Del Mar, and it will cost

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): taxpayers tens of millions of dollars wasted like Vista del Mar. Thank you, Coloni. Af Please go ahead,

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A F: Hi! And as someone who lives in Venice and has for years, I just want to stress my support for this project and my opposition to both motion, and we should not be delaying climate on the project like this. Um and Eric. I also just wanted to to give a shout out to you for Shepherd and the project here. Thanks.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Um, Margaret, Please go ahead.

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Margaret Molloy: It's interesting that there's a lot of land use and developers and architects on this board, but nobody has mentioned coastal access. So you know, public transit is a coastal access issue, and it must be considered, Somebody said, I think it was solid. On. And these demographics Don't, represent

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Margaret Molloy: the local community, and neither do many of the comments.

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Margaret Molloy: Coastal access is for all constituents in La to arrive at the beach. It is your responsibility as the Vnc. To factor that

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Margaret Molloy: I it just really

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Margaret Molloy: i'm, so blows me away that you just ignore anything not convenient. Thank you. Thank you, Margaret. Ah, till staggers please go ahead.

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Till Stegers: Hi. Thank you. Yeah. I I just want to say that as somebody who is, have been a stakeholder, and in this neighborhood council elections I want to remind you that people who work in Venice and commute here by bike um our stakeholders, and so it's. It's quite arrogant to be dismissive of our voice. Um! And I strongly oppose this motion. And uh, and you're asked to kill us by

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Karen T: um. This motion is terrible. I just wanted to thank Clark and

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Karen T: um Michael Mitchell um for being the only people tonight to actually listen to the voices of us who live in Dennis. We overwhelmingly supported this project in public comment tonight, and here we have people making up claims that we don't live here, or something. This board does not represent us. It It makes us look very bad actually, to the city. Ah, you all really need to check your egos. Thanks.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Um. Ppp. Please go ahead.

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PP: Yes, hi! Good evening. I just want to say that I take offense to the fact that when people say that they want a better design, and they oppose a project.

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PP: A better design maybe includes better Bike lane, more friendly, more environmental measures striving a street. It's not an agreemental, friendly measure. It is true that we need bike clean. I support by clean. I'm a bike. I would love to ride a bus for a metro or a train that goes down the path. But this design is Rush, and we should actually take the time to look for a better solution for everyone in the city. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Uh, Jim. That's the last of the public comment.

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jim murez: Okay,

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jim murez: Any other

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jim murez: um

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jim murez: board comment. Let's just take a vote, everybody ready to take a vote.

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It's it's it's.

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Soledad Ursua: So what does the vote? Do? Explain it? Again,

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jim murez: we're recommending to postpone the approval of this project for ninety days to include similar outreach timing that was given to our neighboring Ncs. A community impact statement will be filed.

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Soledad Ursua: So does this go to the community impact, file statement, or whatever

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jim murez: it will be, to oppose the the the current. So so the Council file talks about doing this project. We will oppose the project without modification.

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Okay,

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jim murez: okay.

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jim murez: I'm: going to vote. Yes, for the project. Our best. Yes, for the motion.

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jim murez: Melissa

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is Melissa still here.

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jim murez: I'll move on. J.

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jay : Yes,

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Bruno Hernandez: Vicki. Yes, Bruno. Yes, Sima. Yes, Nico

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jim murez: Jim.

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Jim Robb: Yes,

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Jason Sugars: Jason, no

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jim murez: alley,

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jim murez: though she can't get on. Kai.

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Chie: Yes,

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Mike Bravo: Mike no

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CJ Cole: solid Ed. Yes, Cj: Yes,

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Clark Brown: Robert, yes. Clark. Oh,

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jim murez: Mikhail,

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Michael: no

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jim murez: um Nico

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jim murez: motion carries ten for zero, so that's our recommendation, Eric,

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jim murez: moving right along

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jim murez: now. The next one

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we're going to be here all night

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jim murez: time, is it?

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jim murez: It's ten fifty,

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Michael: by the way I sold that I got directions from from Ah Pomona to Venice that don't involve. Wait a minute. That's Boulevard.

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Soledad Ursua: And how long is that

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jim murez: sorry?

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Michael: What do you finally say, Michelle, that you don't take the ten to the four hundred and five to Venice Boulevard.

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jim murez: All right. So my family that, anyway. Okay, let's not let we got an item here on the agenda. This was brought to us by the parking and transportation Committee.

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jim murez: Um,

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jim murez: Robert, do you want to go ahead and make the motion?

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robertthibodeau: Yeah,

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robertthibodeau: okay, we're on twenty eight. By the way, I think this is the last item. This is the last seven. Yeah.

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robertthibodeau: Um,

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robertthibodeau: okay. I have too many chains going. I had no idea Aria was one of my chains. I don't know. What are you talking about, Kai or somebody, but we can hear you speaking.

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robertthibodeau: Okay, i'm gonna make this motion.

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robertthibodeau: The Vnc. Support the latest Rose Penmar Improvement Project is presented by Devon Weira of the Rose Penmar Group the

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jim murez: and can we get a second on that?

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Vicki Halliday: I'll second it.

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jim murez: Who is that?

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robertthibodeau: What's it, Vicki:

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robertthibodeau: So the dad

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jim murez: I don't. I just need one. Just pick one.

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jim murez: Oh, yeah, it's a little second.

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jim murez: Okay, So it adds seconding,

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jim murez: Thank you. Um. So we uh

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jim murez: are going to have two presentations. We'll give them each five minutes. One will be from the people that originally came before the Parking and Transportation Committee. The other one will be by the Arbor Committee, who also wanted to

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robertthibodeau: weigh in on this, and for whatever reason they weren't participating. They claim that they were well. I'll let them explain what they have going on, but really the motion, the motion is to support the the folks over on

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robertthibodeau: in the development of uh,

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robertthibodeau: the development of the What is it? The jogging path over there

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robertthibodeau: right

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robertthibodeau: And so let's. Let's let's Let's let the people that me the city, I think, made a presentation. Maybe Maybe it's not the city. It's okay, it's it's the neighbors. It's the neighborhood group, and it's somebody named Devon.

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jim murez: Right? How did Devon? Says She's a panelist now? Okay, great. So Devin, do you want to share your screen?

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robertthibodeau: But the point is that the Harbor Committee is welcome to make

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robertthibodeau: public comment like anybody else. But i'm not. The The boat is on Devon's

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jim murez: right, Robert. I understand your position. Your committee heard it, You,

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jim murez: the Arbor Committee, asked if they could also be able to have a separate special meeting, and then put in an alternate motion for this a second motion, and I said, no. It would just give them the opportunity to make a presentation to the board tonight, and then the Board will make the final decision on whether or not to go forward with the motion that your committee already made,

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jim murez: or we can modify the motion, we can alter the motion,

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jim murez: because I didn't want to have a special meeting and a special twenty four hour meeting for the Arbor Committee and make everybody run, whereas doing it this way. It ended up more than seventy two hours.

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jim murez: The public's view, and everybody gets to see the same information.

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jim murez: Okay.

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robertthibodeau: So let's go forward with that the Harbor committee should have.

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robertthibodeau: It is.

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robertthibodeau: But I don't disagree with you in the same process.

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robertthibodeau: What is it?

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robertthibodeau: Yeah, they're they're being on here is not not really what was noticed.

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Devon Guerra: Okay, um Is devin on board? Yes, she is um devin. Did you have a presentation you wanted to make. If the Harvard Committee has a presentation, i'd prefer that they present first. Is that okay?

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Devon Guerra: And then i'll go after

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jim murez: I don't have a problem with that is, who from Arbor is Sarah presentation? I know. I think Devin should go first.

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robertthibodeau: I don't think it's your choice,

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robertthibodeau: because for well, it's not her choice either.

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jim murez: Listen. Let me Let me bring this back to the ground, Sarah. You asked to be able to make a presentation. Make your presentation. Everybody's already seen the other one. It's already online. It was a video recording. So it's really only a duplication and a concert that courtesy to people who Haven't already seen Devons. You're just something new.

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jim murez: Why don't you make your presentation? And then we can move forward.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay. The reason why I had asked to go second was because that's the way the meeting agenda was drafted.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Devin is saying she doesn't want to present at all. Then of course, i'll go ahead if that if the consideration is simply that

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I mean I'm. I'm. In fact, making a presentation that's in response.

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CJ Cole: So you just pull it in and do it with you come her off. Okay. Okay, Thanks. Ej:

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jim murez: Yeah. Okay. So I have. I have a screen that I need to share.

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jim murez: Yeah, go ahead

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: uh let's see how I can

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: get this hold on a second.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I need to.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: But the slide show up.

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Okay,

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jim murez: Now, are you seeing a full screen of a slide? Are you seeing a split frame? No, we're seeing a slide. This Rose Penmar path.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Great, Thank you. Okay. So um, thanks very much for putting us on the agenda, and considering the things that we have to say about this project. Um First, I want to just introduce the Venice Harbor Committee,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We have a real concern and an expertise around in the environment and the urban canopy. And that is why we have been looking at this project from afar for quite some time,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: As most of you, I think, are aware, the urban canopy is responsible for cleaning our air, reclaiming our water and resisting the urban heat island effect that we're really suffering from right now. I'm sure everyone remember that we've had two weeks of really severe heat in the last four weeks,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and one of the reasons why this is happening is we are having huge reductions in the La Urban Canopy citywide.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So every city project really needs to address this problem

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: of not having enough trades in the city of Los Angeles.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We're also very concerned with the biodiversity and habitat of the city, and the trees really do contribute to that as well. We have experts in greening. On our committee.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We have a landscape designer an award-winning green architect, and we have a large network of consultants we work with. I think you can see who i'm naming down there. Conservation specialists, biologists. What are we Reclamation folks, native plant and tree specialists

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and bar members sit on city-wide commissions that advise the city at high levels on these issues. But really our expertise comes from our sorry,

2343
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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: from our extensive work with other city departments.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We've worked a lot with L. A. Streets and with our streets L. A. And also with record parks, because we have been planting trees and maintaining trees throughout Venice. We have about three hundred and fifty trees that were planted for the last three years,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: so I wanted to also say that we really respect the work that has been done by the city and the community members.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The work that the Parking and Transportation Committee has done the Rose Penmarkers,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Evna, and many others. And we want you all to remember that we are Venice we're a creative and unique and ocean-facing community there's many environmentalists here, and we're full of expertise. So what we're really urging is prudence that we need to be careful

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: that this is a project that is going to expend hundreds of thousands of dollars in the neighborhood district. It's a long-term project, and we feel that the city has not even provided a full set of final plans.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So the Board cannot possibly be expected to understand this project clearly unless they've had experts. Look at the plans with them, and explain what's going on.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So this is also being used by the entire community of Venice. This is a space that's a base base for all of us. South Santa Monica also uses it as well as Marlista. So that's all the more reason to be careful with our planning on this.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Now I did see Devin's uh

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: presentation, and the implications for the environment were not even mentioned in that presentation, and the city has also not approached those implications. So we really need to reference

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: other projects throughout Los Angeles and in the world. To make sure that we're getting the project that we deserve. We deserve an extraordinary project, not something that has just been tossed out by the city with a lot of resistance to what the community asked for.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So it seems to me that the main goals, and you know I've I've been part of the conversation very much on the sidelines, So a lot of what I've heard is from people who were involved heavily in the planet.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So it seems that, avoiding a future encampment, having a usable path, and meeting the environmental goals of the community for the Urban Key Island Effect and water management are what we really are trying to concentrate on, and the Board is not going to be able to do that unless they study this closely.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So this was an early

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: a drawing that was done. This is sort of what,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and an optimal path would look like. We would have a lot of very hearty native plants that are tall and cannot be trampled easily, and we'll survive in in drought and heat, and then tall trees that will shame the street and the sidewalk.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So here are some of the addressable issues that we see in the plan.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Sorry that was my watch speaking, the plans that the city has put forward have not been made available to the public. So the experts that are on the committee can't really see them, so that needs to be presented by the city.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The city's own stated environmental policies and goals have not been met by this project.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Streets L. A. And record parks are two different departments and streets. La! That we've worked with. They really are very strapped, and something they build is not likely to be maintained in a very good way. Reckon Parks is much more capable of maintaining a space like this one.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The plan doesn't regret, address, the top concern of preventing future encampments.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So we are really urging a delay, so that we can see if we can get the land transfer to wreck and parks, and possibly get a much better budget to build it.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The Dg. Path was supported by one thousand six hundred people, who signed a petition to keep to keep a dirt path,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and the city gave us an explanation that was very weak, that the Ada wouldn't approve it, but the Ada has approved dg usage in other venues,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: so there's no reason to expect that that can't be gained for this project, as well

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Permeable concrete is what has been proposed for this project, and it's not truly permeable.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Barb ourselves with our own hands removed. Seventy five tree wells of supposedly permeable concrete. Underneath was hard, dry soil and nests of cockroaches.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: This is not an ideal material for this environment.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Cement is one of the major components,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and that is a net negative for the environment. So we really discourage the use of a permeable concrete path because of the levels of cement that will be utilized in it, and of the effect on the soil underneath.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The urban canopy is also not supported by this plan.

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jim murez: The continuous part ways Don't seem to be any wider than three to three and a half feet, although we don't have dimensions because the City Hasn't released our plan. Sarah, excuse me, let me interrupt you for one second. You've just come up on the five minute, Mark, Are you getting pretty close to the end?

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Um, yes, I can. I can get. I'm about to be done with this slide, and you guys can obviously be through these guys. I'll provide them to you. Um! But what I was saying about that when you had originally talked to me, you said, You give us ten minutes, so I knew I was under ten minutes, but i'm not under five, but I,

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jim murez: anyway. So those I guess if you can wrap it up. It's just that. It's really late, and it's eleven o'clock already.

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jim murez: I understand that, Jim, but we did change the winner of the motions that came before us, and so I really I would appreciate getting a a good full hearing. So so what could you take? Why, don't you take? Why, you take two more minutes and wrap up and and stick around in case we have any questions.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay. So those those

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: those parkways are not wide enough for large mature trees to shade the street, and that is what we need to fight or the heat effect.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Let's move on here. You guys can read through those later we could certainly get stormwater grants, for up to four hundred thousand dollars for that space, if we included bio scales or other strong water reclamation.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So these are the two plans compared. If you'll have a look at what's on the screen, you can see that the early sketches that were done by some of the mystic designers, included a lot of trees and a media

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: in the city's plan. Exactly. Two trades are in that same stretch. So this is really an undertree project.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So I want to thank you again for allowing our participation. And I want you to really consider utilizing our expertise at reading plans and delay this vote

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: have other suggestions which you can read down there. But I really think you should delay this book until the Board really understands the full effects of this

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: plan that's been put forward by the city. We also just in. In conclusion, we Don't have the plans themselves from the city, and there's really no way for the board to consider this project. If they don't have access to the class.

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jim murez: Okay, thank you, sir. Can you do me a favor just back up one slide. I have one quick question for you. Can you do that easily?

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jim murez: Uh, yes,

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jim murez: just where the the the

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jim murez: yeah, that one there. Um!

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jim murez: It looks to me, and and you tell me if i'm right or wrong, it's a little bit small for me to see. I don't know if you can make it larger, but in the upper

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jim murez: view it looks as though there's a lot more land being given to the improvements than in the lower view. That is correct. Okay. So so in the upper view there's more land being taken. Where's the land being taken from?

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jim murez: I think it's presently concrete over there, but it's not part of the road, so you'd have to stretch out. You'd have to widen the land, but there is space for it,

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jim murez: so you'd have to widen it. Well, so does that mean you're taking down the fence of the park? Or are you moving out?

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jim murez: No, that we're not taking the the fence of the bulk, which is there would not be removed. No; be at the same spot. It is now, however, that is one issue that I wasn't able to bring up is that there are a lot of professions that have not been addressed, and one of them is that the gulf for sense is falling down and dilapidated in. Okay, But i'm trying to. I'm trying to understand. Are you moving the curb out farther into the center of the street, the the the the the the curve, is going to move in both of these,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: but ours would move a little bit further.

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jim murez: Okay, thank you.

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jim murez: Now we have another presentation,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: so does anybody else have any questions before we move on,

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jim murez: Sarah. I will i'll. I'll handle that. Um. Let me get the the second presentation, and this is ah the one that the parking and transportation Committee meeting heard

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jim murez: um a week ago Monday.

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Devon Guerra: Hi, Everybody Um! So uh i'm gonna need. Probably about Sorry. My slide keeps forwarding the accent. Um, ten minutes. Um, I know she took eight. Why, don't, why don't. We just try and keep it at eight, if you can.

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Devon Guerra: Yeah, I'll do my best. I will say, like, you know, I have been here since the beginning, by the way,

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Devon Guerra: and by five hours. So I think we all have. We all that we're all going to say.

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Devon Guerra: Okay, at least you're being paid,

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and i'm not

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Devon Guerra: sorry. Um: Okay. So i'm going to go ahead. It's not being paid, maybe. Okay, Let's let her have her. Let's Let her have her uh her time. Okay, it's it's one thousand nine hundred and nine. Go ahead and start all right. Thank you. So i'm here to present um. The rose path projects, and the perspective of the Rose Pedmar Community group, which is um, I. In fact, my next side will explain who we are. Um! We are simply group of neighbors who live on the streets directly adjacent to the past,

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Devon Guerra: including streets like Rose, Cortland, Indiana, and Glenavon. So we are the neighbors who directly abut this project.

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Devon Guerra: Um. We have worked closely with Cd. Eleven during the events meeting up to through and beyond the inaugural encampment. The home project, including for nearly two years now with the city on the Rose Path Project design. Our group consists of uh fifteen people, our immediate group, but we also um regularly gather input from our neighbors in our immediate community, and i'll speak to that a little bit more in a minute.

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Devon Guerra: I wanted to give you guys an idea of this project, timeline and the collaboration that has happened between the residents live on rows, and it directly adjacent to the path and the city.

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Devon Guerra: So in October two thousand and twenty is when the past sense was erected. And then, shortly after that, our community group had our first of many meetings with C Eleven and streets delay about the product design, and these meetings have continued and are still occurring as of now. Um! About a year later, after we gotten to a point in the project. Um, where we needed to gather further input Cd. Eleven as the

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Devon Guerra: and input was collected via three different community meetings where um all of East Fennis was invited to come and give inputs. And all of the Input collected at these community meetings was shared with Cd. Eleven and Streak la! I'll add that this input included these project plans that were just presented by the Arbor Committee a year ago Almost um. And so the this input from um, and it's neighborhood a safe station.

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Devon Guerra: I I hear someone else talk.

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jim murez: Yeah, so do I. I don't know who that is.

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Devon Guerra: All right, so I could. People could people mute their Yeah, Thank you.

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Devon Guerra: So all of this input that was just given in Sarah's presentation is stuff that has been taken to um has been taken to Cd. Eleven and streets L. A. Uh, quite a while ago, and they have um worked their best to address these issues. Um, in May of this year. Um! The La City Council approves the funding for the project,

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Devon Guerra: and in August the final concept for the cap was revealed. We do have plans, and I will add that through that final concept most of the constituent concerns were addressed as much as they possibly could be

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Devon Guerra: our neighborhood, and, like i'm um! And And again, when I say our group, i'm talking about the residents who live on rows, those who live on. Ah, many who live on war in Commonwealth live on Portland Flower, Sunset, Indiana. The people who are directly adjacent to this project

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Devon Guerra: have already issued a signatures of support for these final plans. We went

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Devon Guerra: so where to join our community? We've collected a hundred and twenty-five plus signatures of support. Um and I can say that the community around. This plan is excited for it to happen. We actually think it's kind of ironic that the Neighborhood Association, as well as Um. Their friends on the Arbor Committee are actively working against our neighborhood. Um, in in regards to these events, because we have said that we like them. Um. And so this is just kind of an an issue that it seems kind of odd, but

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Devon Guerra: we're just going with it, and the project is slated to begin in November of this year, and again it's been two years that collaboration has been happening around it. So that's not super quick.

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Devon Guerra: Um! So the concerns that were addressed. So the community wanted them to maintain what to have maintained a natural feel on the path. And so um! That was one of the the asks. And so six eleven made the pathway meandering um, and they made it from permeable of the termiable material, not a concrete sidewalk that can handle sort of the the storm water, um! And they off is going to read the color it to maintain a period that similar to

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Devon Guerra: the reason. Dg: Hasn't been able to be part of the project has actually been explained to us very clearly. Um, I understand it very well. It was vetoed by the city's ada coordinator, while I don't like that. It was vetoed, and I would love. Dg: Um. The reasons and rationale given why to make sense

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Devon Guerra: Um and I don't have time to explain those right now. I can. If you guys have questions later. Um! They made the pathway be surrounded on both sides by trees and native plants, which again Wasn't asked in the arbocratic presentation just now, which um all of this was shared probably a year ago with streets delay, and three delay out of twenty-seven new trees to path design in response to those same concerns, as well as protection for the fourteen existing mature trees. They also revise plan palette to use native and draw tolerant species,

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Devon Guerra: and the bike lanes remain in place

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Devon Guerra: and are in the current plans. So there was an agreement to not have a protective bike lane on the south side of Rose, between Frederick and Kenmar instead, so that the parking wouldn't be away from the curb like on Venice Boulevard. But they are going to be painting a bike lane barrier, there to protect the bicyclist.

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Devon Guerra: And then on the other side of the street, on the golf course side. There is going to be a Median with planting in it that will protect the bike lane rather than the bullets. And so that was a request by the people who lived in the area to maintain the aesthetics of the path while still protecting the

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Devon Guerra: um. I just wanted to give you some visuals. I know that Sarah showed a visual that still had a concrete sidewalk. Um! This is a new rendering of the path made from that permeable material. Um in that tan color that's requested. Um, I included this picture and the far right Um, I go partly just to show you kind of the difference between concrete and not for meable material. And then this is some of the plant palette. That is the post project

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Devon Guerra: um like I said the Rose-penemar neighborhood. Our immediate neighborhood supports this product. Um, we believe it's a compromise. We've been working again like I said, you know, for two years with the city, I will say the Safety Eleventh Street delay has been highly collaborative, and everybody had to compromise right. So we gave them our concerns. They came back and compromised and be compromised. And it was actually a really collaborative, amazing process kind of like what you guys are asking for

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Devon Guerra: the Venice Mobility Project.

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Devon Guerra: We understand and accept that there are aba and infrastructure limitations on the design, and i'll speak to that. I know that the rendering that that Sarah presented shows comedians in the middle of the streets. Well, there's um ah part of our conversations is There's so much infrastructure beneath rows that those unions aren't supported and planting trees in the middle of that roadway with so many infrastructure, is an important um. We have gone door to door like I said, and the neighborhood likes to design, and is really eager to see this part

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Devon Guerra: like star on time, as plan. It's been two years with the fence up, and our neighborhood is ready to see this project come to permission. We like the design I do want to finish by responding to concerns, and I kind of already hit on these. But one concern is, the city has not honored our request for Dg. On the path.

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Devon Guerra: Well, again, we understand why the a city Ada coordinator has said No, she's explained the reasons. I very clearly understand them. I'm not sure why sort of other representatives like from the Arbor Committee and Eva Don't, but they are the results of true community collaboration and compromise.

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Devon Guerra: Excuse me, you You've had your eight minutes. Can you wrap up? This is my last bullet. Okay, thank you. So Other groups have provided alternative signs that you just saw. We've seen this design before, and um the vision that they have such as Whiting. I know, Jim, you asked about widening that real estate on the path. The community is adamantly against me, and they keep posing this. But a community is telling them. No, not the city keeps the hosting, but the community is telling them. No, not the city keeps the hosting, but the community is telling them. No, not the city keeps from hosting, but the community is telling them. No, not the city keeps from hosting. But the community is telling them. No, not the city keeps the hosting, but the community is telling them. No, not the city keeps the hosting, but the community is telling them. No, not the city keeps from hosting, but the community is telling them.

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Devon Guerra: Proposing this when the community has said, We don't want this, and so what we understand is alternative designer. Well, intention, and our group's collaboration with the net. I didn't the project forward, but at this point those alternative designs are budgeted. They're not realistic. They don't deal with infrastructure issues, and it's not what our community wants. And so from the Rose Penmark community we strongly urge you to support these plans

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Devon Guerra: two years in the making lots of collaboration that our community really wants to see happen.

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Devon Guerra: Okay, this is my last night. It's just some visuals.

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Devon Guerra: Yeah, we've seen that you can you can take them in? Yeah,

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jim murez: Okay, Thank you. Um.

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Devon Guerra: Let's stop sharing Great. We did that. I'm: really able to answer questions.

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jim murez: Yeah, thank you. No. Just stick around there. There may be some questions here.

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jim murez: Let's get back to our agenda here real quick.

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jim murez: Um Vicki let's take. Let's Does anybody on the board currently have any questions about either of the two presentations, or can we take public comment?

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jim murez: Um panelists? I see,

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Clark Brown: Clark, you have a question going. Have a question. Has Devon's group and Sarah's group met and conferred to see if they can

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Clark Brown: reached a joint agreement that could be presented to us? Okay, thank you clerk,

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jim murez: Do we have any other questions?

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jim murez: I don't. I don't want to dismiss you, Clark. But they did say that they did work together on the project.

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jim murez: Ah,

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Devon Guerra: okay, Let's Let's not get into a back and forth. Here, let's just try and get through this item and

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jim murez: let's continue the meeting moving forward. Okay, Sola Dad, did you have a specific question about either?

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Soledad Ursua: Okay, I want to know. When did this process start? How long has it been? And maybe How many people have you talked to in the process, please?

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jim murez: And what was the second part,

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jim murez: and how many people are you talked in the past? What When did it start? You know we go? You talk to like how many people? Yeah, tell us the process.

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jim murez: So who who would like to respond to that, Sarah, When did you get involved in this?

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Yeah, I'm happy to respond. The first time I saw these drawings was over a year ago,

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jim murez: and at the time. In fact, we considered them promotion at the Arbor Committee, but we withdrew because members of the collaborative community said, We want to get an agreement. A firm agreement

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: amongst all the different members before we go before the Bnc.

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jim murez: So you have about it. That's right. Now The thing is that I would also like to say,

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jim murez: I'm, I'm sorry I've got to cut it off. It's really late to answer the second part of the question. If you'd like to. That was how many people did you outreach with During this time

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jim murez: I was not part of the outreach, but I know that I know that outreach was done after the design was finished by the city,

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jim murez: understood. Devon. Do you want to respond to that as well?

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Devon Guerra: Yeah. So the project started in a December of two thousand and twenty. So it's been over two years. Um, Evna outreach. We We outreach our immediate community adjacent to the project, because, like I said, we're just but at the outreach um to their entire list and invited them to provide input um.

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Devon Guerra: When you say when you say Edna, did you present to the to the East Venice Neighborhood Association.

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Devon Guerra: So we were working together

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Devon Guerra: right with the city. So we were all together in meetings with the city, and Then our collaboration broke off, because Evna continued to push for design elements that our community did not support,

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Devon Guerra: and they stopped listening to us. And so we kind of broke off, and now we've yet been working with C Eleven separately. But there has been a lot of outreach um every you know. I will give it up to Evna. We could not have had as much outreach um without them, because we don't have their mailing lists. We're just a group of neighbors in a neighborhood. Right? So. Um, you know. All right. Let let me let me now get public comment out of the way, and then we can

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jim murez: have any further discussion about this, Vicki. Can you help with that,

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jim murez: Vicki?

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Vicki Halliday: Yes, we have lots of hands up. We

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jim murez: okay. Do you want thirty seconds or a minute. No, we'll give them a minute.

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Vicki Halliday: Okay,

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Vicki Halliday: All right, Go, puppet.

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Vicki Halliday: Go ahead.

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Goat Puppet: Yes, and we appreciate this. This is a very quick meeting, so i'll try to make it quick.

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Goat Puppet: It's very fast. Yes,

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Goat Puppet: so of course

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Goat Puppet: the horn converts with the enemy. My God! It and everybody eats my father!

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Goat Puppet: She wants to protect the animals up in the trees and provide sheated canopy cover

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Goat Puppet: and make things pretty, and get rid of homeless criminals.

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Goat Puppet: What's that have to do with it. So they don't destroy our trees that we're planning. That means we have to get all the

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Goat Puppet: but we love our little golf course,

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Goat Puppet: and some Devon and Mike brought him over to retirement.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Doug Puppet.

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Vicki Halliday: Uh no! Well, you're up next. Go ahead.

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Noel Johnston: Am I unmuted?

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Noel Johnston: Yup. If you are um, I I hope that uh the Vnc. With possibly with Lupik or another committee, will examine these plans very carefully. It's not that the Arbor Committee

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Noel Johnston: that uh um

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Noel Johnston: Evan's friends in the Arbor Committee dislike what the other group it's doing. We just don't think that it's as good as it could be. That's all. Uh, and I I think it's unfortunate to to to with us that way. Um! I I think that the uh uh plans should just be gone over with a real fine to his call. I don't think you could possibly understand them in this uh, uh abbreviated form, and I think this is a large enough project that you really should understand you. Should

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Noel Johnston: you should examine them. We should take care of that. You understand exactly what's going on here, and why, for instance, things like Gigi had been turned down. Why, the city is saying that the median, this median was the grass, and it is a good idea how they're going to maintain that. How would you wrap it up?

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Noel Johnston: I don't think that it can be maintained, but I think I just hope you will take it by yourselves to examine this more careful. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Uh Melissa Mcfadden, Please go ahead,

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Melissa Macfadyen: Melissa, my caddy and I live on res avenue. Um. I am in favor of the plan as proposed by Devon. I want to point out that there are no trees being removed. There are only trees being added.

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Melissa Macfadyen: I also want to point out that the

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Melissa Macfadyen: the one thousand four hundred that Sarah says they have one thousand four hundred in favor of Dg: I think that's a little misleading. But the change org petition that went out in May was so for no concrete. It was not for no concrete or Dg: It just said no concrete where they they they got the most support for no concrete

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Melissa Macfadyen: which we don't have, which we were able to get streets la to change by the august latest plans.

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Melissa Macfadyen: So I also think that um!

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Melissa Macfadyen: The letter they they posted was from July, and again the changes were made in August. So a lot of the changes they're talking about Were prior to the August meeting, where a lot of changes got made,

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Melissa Macfadyen: so i'm in favor of the plan.

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Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Uh, are you?

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Vicki Halliday: We could please go ahead.

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Arya Rahimian: Yes, I just wanted to voice my strong support for the plans as proposed by Devon, I think, when you look at cities track, or heard in collaborating with Venice community, this is

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Arya Rahimian: It's very important projects. It's actually a shining star for what the city has been able to achieve and provide the community. I think at some point we have to recognize that

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Arya Rahimian: no matter what we ask, there are limitations. There is a infrastructure problem under the Rose avenue that cannot accommodate what the Arbor Committee is asking for.

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Arya Rahimian: The issue of the Dg. Has been talked about so many times, and the fact that we are adding twenty seven trees, and the fact that we are creating an environment where everyone in Venice can benefit from and can enjoy, is a very positive, positive thing, and we should immediately move forward with the planesizes and Don't delay it for no reason.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Uh Santa Lucia family. Please go ahead.

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Vicki Halliday: However,

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Vicki Halliday: there we go. There we go. Please go ahead.

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jim murez: Do you need to repeat the person's name? Santa Lucia family.

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Vicki Halliday: Could you unmute and talk?

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Santa Lucia Family: I'm sorry i'm a little, so i'm in my eighties, so i'm a little slow at this, and so we've lived here for some fifty years. I spent three days collecting signatures to see if people were in favor of

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Santa Lucia Family: this new project, and I didn't have one person say that they didn't like it. Everyone signed it that I came to contact with,

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Santa Lucia Family: and they were very happy. And we're hoping that would commence very soon. And so I So all the things I've heard. It looks like we're as a community. We're trying to improve it, and it looks like we we could do that if we're allowed to do it. And so I live fifty feet from where it's going to take place, and I hope that some side is so

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Santa Lucia Family: get involved so that i'll put a hamper on what we're trying to do.

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Santa Lucia Family: Thank you. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Uh Margaret. Oh, like, please go ahead.

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Margaret Molloy: Yeah, I Haven't heard anybody talk about cost and ongoing maintenance, and it's a really big issue. If anybody's interested. I have multiple Cpi files for the water bills for ten more golf course, about five hundred thousand for one single summer month in two thousand and twenty one.

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Margaret Molloy: It's just more graft. Basically so clearly no use is better than the wrong use in public space in Venice, and the

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Margaret Molloy: barricading of that whole area is just one example of that. But it goes on and on. Now it's the deadly pagoda. It's the Millennium Park. It's pathetic.

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Margaret Molloy: That's not a solution to homelessness. Both of these presenters have said their primary goal is to prevent a return of encampments.

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Margaret Molloy: You know I don't know how you're serving the public, because this isn't it.

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Margaret Molloy: You know the demographics of that golf course we need affordable housing on that golf course. Screw ten people with their golf caddies.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Margaret Andreas. Please go ahead.

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andreas: Hi! Um! My name is Andreas. I live in the neighborhood for almost thirty years now, and i'm an avid runner, and I've been using that ah path around the golf course when it existed through the Frederick Canyon and on both sides of the golf course for years

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andreas: I've always also been involved a little bit with the Evna process over the last four various issues over the last months,

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andreas: and I heard the desire to transition this section to keep the spirit of it alive, to reckon parks, and I'm. Hoping for a more integrated

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andreas: a solution, maybe including the golf course and sections that aren't fair ways of greens to honor a more eco-friendly and with native species that

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andreas: create an ecosystem for how it challenges that

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andreas: i'm done. Thank you for your time.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you,

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Vicki Halliday: Jenny Cunning. Please go ahead.

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Jenny Cooney: Hi! Um. I live a block away from the path, and I've been part of the group that um in the community that has worked very, very closely with the city, and with Devon and everybody else, and I fully support the current version that streaks L. A. Has come up with, after

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Jenny Cooney: many many hundreds of hours of compromise which I never expected from the city, and

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Jenny Cooney: I have seen incredible ability for everybody to come together and give and take a little bit. Of course it could be better. It could always be better. But this is the result of all that compromise, and all those people that were involved, and also to the people who say, You know we don't care about homelessness. The whole reason this began was because we worked all together to help launch the pilot program, so that everybody that was there would be off of housing,

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Jenny Cooney: and then we had to deal with the fact that the path needed to be fixed. So that's why we're at where we're at, and I hope you all support it. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Um, Hi, Tim, please go ahead.

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Hatem Dhiab: Hi! There! Can you hear me.

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jim murez: Yes,

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Hatem Dhiab: hi! My name is Tresa. My husband is he's fallen asleep. Unfortunately, waiting for this, we both live on, and I have been a participant in the neighborhood group as well with Devin and the last speaker, and I have to say that i'm in complete support of this motion, and this plan, This iteration from the city is a beautiful representation of partnership. As was previously mentioned. They have done a wonderful job of meeting many, many, many of the requests

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Hatem Dhiab: that the neighbors have had all of my neighborhood neighbors collectively on Glen Avon, as well as immediately on Rose, support this project, moving forward immediately with the current plans the city has provided. We are excited for it. We think that it's much needed, and we're really beautified, and we're ready to project forward. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Uh Dad, Please go ahead. You're unmuted.

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Dan: I can hear me know.

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Dan: Yeah, Hi! This is Dan Wo, Jack. I'm in the one thousand one hundred block of Rose Avenue. I just wanted to mention that we have a one hundred percent sign off. Ah, in the one thousand one hundred blocks. That's every single neighbor on these two blocks Here, direct down Rose Avenue supports the project that the Rose Penmar Group has put together.

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Dan: Let's keep in mind that this is a streets Improvement Project. Not a giant landscaping project. We're putting in twenty-eight new trees uh the neighborhood supports it, and we're definitely eager to getting our jogging and running path back to be used by the community as it's been used for over six years.

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Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Dan.

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Vicki Halliday: Uh, next up. Pp: you're unmuted.

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PP: Ah, yes, hi! Good evening. This is Paula Pini, with Evna. I just need to make some of the correction on the stage in the distance so far, so it's my chance to make comments here.

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PP: First of all the plan we keep calling Devon's plan. This is the Ct's three select plan, and I don't know if the Board has seen the plan the seven pages or so that that those plan represents. Second, when we are talking about

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PP: Ah, Sarah's sketch that shows Ah occupied the parking lane along the north side of Rose that was eliminated by the the proposed design, and it's not recuperated by any planting, or, you know,

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PP: improvement, but made it like a wide backpack with Ah, with eleven feet buffer zone like the project before on Venice, the outreach doesn't have to limit one group only. I know this people has been very, very involved, and we thank them for that. But this is not only one small group project. This is going to affect this area for now and for years to come, and for many more people to come. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. Ah, Yolanda, please go ahead

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Yolanda Gonzalez: now. Can you hear me?

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Vicki Halliday: Yes,

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Yolanda Gonzalez: yes, um. I've known about this project for a long time being on the Venice Neighborhood Council. My worry is that any decision? And I've supported the East Side of Venice. Ah, Lincoln, in in supporting a beautiful project.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: But my worry is that once any project gets involved, and my understanding is that they want to pass this on to parks and recreation, and one group wants to remain at

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Yolanda Gonzalez: the city and level.

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Yolanda Gonzalez: I am concerned that we will lose Penmark, and it will be a development in the future. Thank you.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you, Yolanda. Ah, Erica, please go ahead.

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Erica Moore: Hi! I just wanted to say that. Um! I really just think that everybody wants the same thing. Everybody wants that area to be revitalized, but I think that there's a lot of fear of people really in being a true. There's a lot of fear about the homeless, and that's why people are pushing to have it done immediately, because they're afraid

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Erica Moore: that fence is going to be taken down. They don't start this project within that timeline that was originally allotted, and I think that that is not the reason we should make the decisions we're making.

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Erica Moore: I think that we need to do this thoughtfully and consider the impact for everybody, because it's true. First of all these people it's amazing that they've done all this hard work, but it isn't just them. It's affected.

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Erica Moore: I only live two blocks away from it.

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Erica Moore: I travel on that all the time. There's many people that run on that path. It is not good to run on it, if not the Dg. I think that there is opportunity for further collaboration. I think we need to stand together, and we need to go for what the absolute best project can be. Thank you so much.

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Vicki Halliday: Thanks, Erica.

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Vicki Halliday: Uh Kalani. Please go ahead.

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): It's not lost on me that the timeline for This project has been two years of careful planning, while the Venice Road diet

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): being rushed with less than six months

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): planning

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): um, I either project either project would be an improvement, but I would like to urge them to ensure that funds are set aside for tree trimming and plant maintenance, because the city often runs out of money six months into the year for tree trimming.

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): Also we shouldn't allow homeless to continue to hold this city hostage. It's time we start challenging one thousand nine hundred and eighty three Jones versus New York, New York of Jones versus the Us. And start mandating mental health and drug

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Kalani W (Active Westside Stakeholder): use rehab programs. Thank you. Thank you, Helen. You're unmuted.

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Helen Fallon: Yes, I supported this project in the beginning, because I thought how wonderful to have a running path.

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Helen Fallon: A great recreational opportunity for the entire community, not just for the people just adjacent to it to that area, because this is a hard area,

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Helen Fallon: and it should have other people from the best community coming to it.

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Helen Fallon: And now I see where we're just going to get a lot of concrete burning of that permeable concrete is not something you can run on, and I don't understand the comments about the plenty of parks have this, and they're accessible to people who are disabled.

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Helen Fallon: I see this more. As as someone said, it's a street project, it's Its focus became a a protected bike light, and I think somehow someone along the line they lost the focus, and this should be creating,

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Helen Fallon: not just a bike path, but that recreational opportunity of a running path for the community. We don't have anything like that.

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Vicki Halliday: Thank you. By one

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Vicki Halliday: uh Kate Scanlon. Devil,

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Vicki Halliday: You're unmuted.

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kate scanlon-double: Thank you. Can you hear me?

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Vicki Halliday: Yes, we can.

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kate scanlon-double: Yes, hi! I'm. Also a Board member of the East Venice Neighborhood Association. Ah, thank you for giving us this time,

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kate scanlon-double: boy. So much has been said.

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kate scanlon-double: We all want a good project there, and the thing about it is, we also knock on doors about three thousand. We outreach to about three thousand people. We went to pop up the events in the community. We went to a park advance. We went to Tamar Park events.

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kate scanlon-double: We have three meetings in the community about this only to say there's a lot of dissipation and participation. It can be a better project.

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kate scanlon-double: Why, Russia, it can be better for the whole community for the climate. Why, Russia, there is Ada approved, eg. In other areas, if the city would recognize this is a recreational path. This is not a sidewalk never has been, not for decades. So we've got to get more creative. It's over designed as a street project. So over to much concrete. Thank you all. And I really want you to get the details. So,

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Vicki Halliday: um, Isabel, you're unmuted. Now,

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Vicki Halliday: Isabel.

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isabelle duvivier: Okay, we'll come back to this.

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isabelle duvivier: Hello, Are you there? Okay? Yeah. Sorry about that.

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isabelle duvivier: Just as the paddle. Tennis firsts are sacred to Venice. So, too, is a Pennsylvania running track instead of it, making it more uncomfortable for runners and walkers. We should be working with the residents with rap in the city of Santa Monica to create a safe

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isabelle duvivier: and continuous running path that can be circumnavigated, and it can include large canopy trees. The city is proposing very small statute of trees, and I also just want to informally say that I was actually the one who brought this before the

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isabelle duvivier: the Parking and Transportation Committee, because I was hoping that they could bridge the gap between the

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isabelle duvivier: Evna and the Rose Penmar group, and I do take a little bit of an offense that Devon is is is lumping us all together as though we're all evil. I was hoping that you guys spend the time to actually look at the drawings and help bridge the gap between what the different members of the community want, Not just what a handful of people on Rose.

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isabelle duvivier: Thank you as well. Last speaker, Deborah Byrd. Deborah, you're in muted.

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DEBORAH BIRD: Yes, Hi. Can you hear me?

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Vicki Halliday: Yes,

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DEBORAH BIRD: Okay, Great. Thank you. I want to thank everybody for putting all their time that they have into this. So far i'm concerned that we are rushing it. This is not just a street project. This is the large screen space we have in Venice.

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DEBORAH BIRD: If you combine it with a Penmar park across the way, this is an opportunity cannot rush this, and I don't understand there's so much concrete whether it's permeable or in a Median that is shallow and bottomed and filled with grass.

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DEBORAH BIRD: This is not what creates

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DEBORAH BIRD: recreation or biodiversity. We have a green space, We this is Venice. We can be a lot more.

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DEBORAH BIRD: Ah, innovative, inventive, creative. I think we need to take the time to really respect this space. Take the time. I don't want to rush it. Thank you.

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jim murez: Okay. Did I hear you say That was the last speaker. That was the last speaker.

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jim murez: Okay, um.

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jim murez: I just want to say I don't know exactly how long that stretcher, Rose,

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jim murez: is there that that we're talking about. But back in the early ninety S. When I planted trees in Venice, and I planted a few thousand of them. Um. The stretch of Venice Boulevard, which

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jim murez: I helped to to get a group of people together. There was, you know, four thousand people that came together over a six-month period to design how Venice Boulevard was going to look, and what plant material was going to be used. We planted six hundred and fifty trees on Venezuela,

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jim murez: not twenty-eight, and I think we're talking about a similar length of distance. By the time you wrap the park and and one of the things the design criteria that we looked at when we were doing The project was,

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jim murez: What did we want? The the the walkability features of the of Venice Boulevard to be like in ten years, and and the reason ten years was a number was because that was when the the fifteen gallantries that we were installing would start to show a bit of a canopy.

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jim murez: And and so one of the big things was was, how much shade, how walk! You know how how pleasant was it going to be to be able to walk down the street and to be able to feel like you were walking

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jim murez: sort of a natured forest, and and the concept, of course, was going back to. We were going to create a ceremonial gateway to Venice Beach, and I think we achieved that.

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It's a

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jim murez: I guess that

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jim murez: the bigger design picture that I don't hear is what is the ultimate out

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jim murez: supposed to be? I mean, if it's supposed to be a running course. I think there have been several comments made about how you

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jim murez: permeable concrete, and one of the people said that they broke up all these permeable concrete tree wall covers. Well, those were the ones that I put in in the early ninety S. And the Arbor Committee has since removed them, so I want to congratulate them on that city was supposed to do it five years after the trees were in, but they didn't

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jim murez: At any rate, let's take board. Comment at this point, and then call it a night solid. Dad, you have your hand up. Go ahead, please.

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Soledad Ursua: Hi, everyone! I'm So I've spent a lot of time, and he's tennis lately. It's not really somewhere that I thought I would go, but I have loved it recently, especially with uh, like ten more parks. I love taking my dog there. I spent so much time actually needing real people to live there who live along there, and you know It's something like we have with so much in common where they have lived through encampments. They've had fences up

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Soledad Ursua: much like we've had in like the Venice Library,

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Soledad Ursua: and So a lot of the outreach icon is, I mean, people want to move on. It's just happened so long ago. They were really the first encampment that happened. I'm Look at it. They're like when you lose public space you have to gate it up. So think about us with our Venice Library. This happened like what four months ago it's so gated up. They have had this for like a year and a half, and they have done so much work. They've done all the effort, all the work. I think we need to promote this. We can push it, Grail,

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Soledad Ursua: I mean they've been everything, and i'm here to promote it. I have talked to them, and this is what they want, and i'm here to support them. So thank you. And I hope you guys all support it and let's keep the motion going.

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jim murez: Thank you, Kari. Go ahead.

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Chie: I just wanted to say, this is a fourth of a mile. The stretch that we're talking about. We are adding trees, but we're also not taking away the canopy of trees that already exist along that pathway, and i'm sorry I I hate to. But how you did accuse yourself. I did not actually you did, because I have no financial state in it. But you did

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jim murez: me excuse me, everyone before I mute everybody.

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jim murez: If Kai wishes to speak, she's more than welcome to.

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Chie: Okay. And I also wish to vote. I did not recuse myself.

2630
05:59:01.300 --> 05:59:02.530
jim murez: Yeah, it's fine.

2631
05:59:02.540 --> 05:59:32.520
Chie: Um. So, anyway, what I was saying is that this has not only been a two year process. This has been beyond that, because um! The neighbors that are here. Dev and and many other neighbors were also included in the beginning process of, you know, relocating people into housing and and just looking at this, because prior to the encampment, there was also all the Rvs. This pathway has not been used as a running pathway for quite a while, and And so all these things have been taken

2632
05:59:32.530 --> 05:59:54.240
Chie: to account, and the fact that the city has been working with the neighbors so intensely, I think that it's been such a positive outcome, and I think that you know I um. I just really admire how hard my neighbors have worked on this. And again we're not removing trees. We're increasing more trees, but we also have a ton of trees along that pathway, and is one fourth provider,

2633
05:59:54.250 --> 05:59:56.920
Chie: and it's been over two years, so it's not quick.

2634
05:59:57.490 --> 06:00:00.289
jim murez: Thank you, Guy. Um, Vicki, You have your hand up.

2635
06:00:00.300 --> 06:00:14.950
Vicki Halliday: Ah, yeah, I mean, I think. Let the neighborhood move on with this. They got rid of their encampments. Not all of them were home. We got a lot of them over here in North Venice, So um, you know there's that. But

2636
06:00:14.960 --> 06:00:22.149
Vicki Halliday: I wish you well. I want you to get your life back together. Build a damn thing and be done with it. We can't

2637
06:00:22.320 --> 06:00:35.090
jim murez: just be laborious over these things. Let neighborhoods get back to normal as soon as they can. I'm voting for this. Let's let's just do it. Thank you. Thank you, Vicki Clark. Go ahead.

2638
06:00:35.100 --> 06:00:51.739
Clark Brown: I suggest that we ask the Pedmore Community group and the Arbor Committee to meet and confer to see if they can iron out their differences. It strikes me that both of these plans have more in common, and they have differences. One difference is this issue of A. Dg.

2639
06:00:51.750 --> 06:01:08.609
Devon Guerra: There's got to be an answer to that. One group or the other is probably right. Either Dg. Is is available or it's not. Be quiet, please. Clark has the floor.

2640
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Clark Brown: The other issue is the size and the number of trees. Um. Apparently the Audubon group wants more wants more trees and larger trees than the Penmark community group wants, but it seems to me that that's something that they could probably find a middle ground on.

2641
06:01:25.110 --> 06:01:34.049
Clark Brown: So I would suggest that we asked that to me and confer and get back to us in three or sixty days. Okay, thank you, Clark Sima. You have your hand up.

2642
06:01:36.900 --> 06:01:53.620
Sima: I just want to say, Well, I hear Evna and some concerns that've been raised tonight. I want to echo some of my uh board members, and the fact that I think that sometimes we just push things too far without actually getting forward momentum,

2643
06:01:53.630 --> 06:02:10.900
Sima: and we kind of lose it in the process of whatever. Forgive this Bs that goes on. So I get that this isn't perfect. But there has to be a way that we learn to work together collaboratively, and we can take this as a win. We worked with Bondin's office collaboratively.

2644
06:02:10.910 --> 06:02:22.180
Sima: Okay, I get that. There's mistrust. But at some point we got to start to work together, especially if we want to change the dynamic with the Cd Eleven office.

2645
06:02:25.090 --> 06:02:26.250
jim murez: Okay,

2646
06:02:27.110 --> 06:02:28.400
Sima: um,

2647
06:02:30.100 --> 06:02:36.089
Clark Brown: Clark, Your hands still up by assuming where he got a chance to speak. I'm going to lower it. Seema, you just spoke.

2648
06:02:41.000 --> 06:02:46.989
CJ Cole: Dj: You have your hand up. Did you want to speak? I just uh you just did. Okay, Yeah,

2649
06:02:47.000 --> 06:02:50.000
jim murez: all right. I I see no other um

2650
06:02:50.250 --> 06:02:53.900
jim murez: hands. Let's go ahead and

2651
06:02:54.400 --> 06:02:57.300
jim murez: take a vote. Um!

2652
06:03:00.810 --> 06:03:03.130
jim murez: I'm going to vote. Yes,

2653
06:03:03.730 --> 06:03:05.110
jim murez: Melissa.

2654
06:03:06.120 --> 06:03:08.349
jim murez: I don't know if Melissa is still Here,

2655
06:03:09.660 --> 06:03:11.700
jim murez: Picky, Do you see Melissa here?

2656
06:03:12.480 --> 06:03:15.230
jim murez: Ah, Jay, go ahead.

2657
06:03:15.240 --> 06:03:17.690
jay : Yes, thank you, Vicki.

2658
06:03:17.700 --> 06:03:18.730
Vicki Halliday: Yes,

2659
06:03:18.850 --> 06:03:21.870
Bruno Hernandez: Bruno. Yes, Sima.

2660
06:03:22.230 --> 06:03:24.600
Sima: Yes, Nico,

2661
06:03:27.090 --> 06:03:28.940
jim murez: you abstain.

2662
06:03:28.950 --> 06:03:31.379
Nico Ruderman: Yeah, I need. I'm saying, I didn't hear the

2663
06:03:31.590 --> 06:03:37.689
Jim Robb: abstain. He, by the way, everybody I've never walled to say letter, Jim, Rob, go ahead.

2664
06:03:38.740 --> 06:03:40.360
jim murez: So, Jason,

2665
06:03:43.200 --> 06:03:46.160
jim murez: he's still here. You've got to unmute

2666
06:03:50.320 --> 06:03:52.969
jim murez: Jason. Okay, we'll come back.

2667
06:03:53.640 --> 06:03:55.290
jim murez: Um Kai.

2668
06:03:55.300 --> 06:03:56.220
Chie: Yes,

2669
06:03:56.490 --> 06:03:57.570
jim murez: Mike

2670
06:03:59.990 --> 06:04:01.180
jim murez: Mike

2671
06:04:04.620 --> 06:04:05.790
jim murez: Solidar.

2672
06:04:05.800 --> 06:04:07.990
jim murez: Yes. Cj:

2673
06:04:08.000 --> 06:04:09.020
CJ Cole: Yes,

2674
06:04:09.540 --> 06:04:10.590
jim murez: Robert.

2675
06:04:10.600 --> 06:04:12.490
robertthibodeau: Yes, Clark.

2676
06:04:12.500 --> 06:04:15.810
Clark Brown: Yes, Mikhail. Yes,

2677
06:04:16.410 --> 06:04:20.089
CJ Cole: um. Let me just go back and fill in anybody. Melissa.

2678
06:04:20.440 --> 06:04:24.250
jim murez: He's not showing up on the list. Jim. Okay, Jason

2679
06:04:26.750 --> 06:04:28.530
jim murez: Mike

2680
06:04:29.420 --> 06:04:32.980
jim murez: Mike is gone. Okay,

2681
06:04:33.150 --> 06:04:38.459
jim murez: So the vote carries twelve zero one,

2682
06:04:39.030 --> 06:04:55.790
robertthibodeau: and I just want to make a special point of saying Thank you, Nico, for attending the meeting. Everybody should know that he's in Berlin right now, and for him. It's even more ridiculous hour than it is for us. He's nine hours ahead, so he's been up all night long.

2683
06:04:55.800 --> 06:05:13.669
Clark Brown: Thank you, Nicole. Um! And I think that concludes the agenda for tonight. We didn't miss anything. Um, we do have one last item. If we wanted to take any additional last comments before midnight here.

2684
06:05:13.680 --> 06:05:16.489
jim murez: I mean, I have any discussion from the board.

2685
06:05:16.500 --> 06:05:18.760
jim murez: Yeah, Board officer, comments

2686
06:05:18.790 --> 06:05:21.290
jim murez: solid. Add, You have your hand up. Go for it.

2687
06:05:21.300 --> 06:05:48.260
Soledad Ursua: Yeah. I would like to call out Mikhail, before you said that no Latino takes the four hundred and five to get to Men's speech, and that is wrong of you, because I live forty five minutes inland. So we take the ten, maybe the six, so five we go down to one hundred and five, and we transfer at least five, but different highways to get to the four hundred and five. So that is very bigoted of you. So not me.

2688
06:05:48.270 --> 06:05:57.730
jim murez: Say that Latinos do not take the four hundred and five. So how dare you and I expect a written apology from you?

2689
06:05:57.740 --> 06:06:16.380
jim murez: I'm just i'm so disgusted by this bigoted view of Mikhail. I don't think okay.

2690
06:06:16.390 --> 06:06:20.790
jim murez: I want to try and keep the piece. I don't think he was trying to say that he was bigoted. I think he was,

2691
06:06:20.800 --> 06:06:32.889
jim murez: he said, Latinos do not take the four or five people to Pomona, and he said they don't take the profile because we take another hour and a half of other freeways. See, we get to the four hundred and five. So how dare you?

2692
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jim murez: Very true. You want to ride your bike to the beach. Go ahead. That's twenty minutes, You know. We have like working class minorities. Have to go an hour and a half.

2693
06:06:43.060 --> 06:06:44.130
jim murez: Sorry

2694
06:06:44.530 --> 06:06:48.490
jim murez: it's like everybody, Clark. You have your hand up.

2695
06:06:48.500 --> 06:07:01.060
Clark Brown: Yeah, I would like to have one minute to make some comments about Honey Holmes between two thousand and nineteen and two else. So wait, wait. Let me just ask you a question. Is this something that's going to come up on the board in the future meeting?

2696
06:07:01.070 --> 06:07:20.259
Clark Brown: I don't know if it will or not. Well, so you know we don't want to create a problem for future meetings. If this is something you want to present to the homeless committee. Um, you know it. It probably should hold off. You just might want to say something to the effect of you. Want to see, You know tiny homes be brought before the

2697
06:07:21.570 --> 06:07:28.109
Clark Brown: There's nothing in the bylaws which say that I can't make the public comment at this point in the meeting.

2698
06:07:28.230 --> 06:07:31.510
Clark Brown: There's some consequences to that. We'll deal with that later.

2699
06:07:31.620 --> 06:07:33.990
Clark Brown: Okay, right now,

2700
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Clark Brown: go on.

2701
06:07:35.340 --> 06:07:53.220
Clark Brown: I like to make some comments about Tony Holmes between two thousand and nineteen and two thousand and twenty one. The hope of the Valley Rescue Mission built seven tiny home villages in Council districts, two three twelve and fourteen.

2702
06:07:53.230 --> 06:08:10.179
Clark Brown: This provided nine hundred and ninety-eight beds. It did this with a mix of Federal state and city funds, which the city administrative officer arranged losses two thousand and twenty two greater Los Angeles

2703
06:08:10.190 --> 06:08:23.289
Clark Brown: almost count shows there are one thousand seven hundred and four unsheltered persons in Cd. Eleven, and most of these are in Venice. Yet Cd. Eleven has built no tiny homes for any of these people.

2704
06:08:23.520 --> 06:08:28.650
Clark Brown: Va. Has built some tiny homes in its reservation, but these are only for vets.

2705
06:08:28.670 --> 06:08:48.129
Clark Brown: Mass has more homeless than any other community except Ah, in in downtown Skin Row. As you know, from my two prior motions, there are at least two large vacant process of land north of lax, which could be used for tiny homes and other transitional housing.

2706
06:08:48.140 --> 06:09:01.530
Clark Brown: And in February and ah! August of this year the Bnc. Did not really get into the merits of these Ah! Of these parcels, because of perceived opposition of West gesture.

2707
06:09:01.850 --> 06:09:08.499
Clark Brown: Admittedly the suitability of these sites and the wishes of Westchester. Present complex Issues

2708
06:09:08.780 --> 06:09:25.269
Clark Brown: Board cannot reasonably consider these issues on their merits in connection with the motion, because there are too many issues, and they are too complex for the motion format. For that reason the Board should consider establishing a special committee.