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Jim Robb: I do,

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and you get a

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everybody else to panelists. Do whatever you want to do,

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just like Brian that you want to.

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Jim Robb: You Haven't probably aimed at all.

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Jim Robb: Okay, Thank you. Give me a call. If you have a problem. Bye, bye,

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Jim Robb: sign in So I can make you co-host.

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Jim Robb: I'll tell you.

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Jim Robb: Hello! Hello! Trying to find Brian here.

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Jim Robb: How you doing?

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Jim Robb: I'm. Good.

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Jim Robb: Where are you at?

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Jim Robb: Okay, Have you raised your hand or came on?

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Jim Robb: All right. We're here,

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Jim Robb: colleen's here and me. I need to make you co-host.

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Jim Robb: Okay,

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Jim Robb: bye, Brian,

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Jim Robb: let me see

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Jim Robb: So I need to promote you to co-host. How do I do that

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Jim Robb: he

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Brian Averill: Am I a co-host? You

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Jim Robb: i'm trying to figure that out right now. Here,

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as Mr. Mira's already joined us and left.

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Jim Robb: They keep her most.

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Jim Robb: Yes,

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Jim Robb: you are now a host. I believe

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I'll do my best.

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Jim Robb: Okay,

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Jim Robb: let me see

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Jim Robb: It's It's favor

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Are you looking for

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Jim Robb: you stop looking for anybody else?

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Jim Robb: Can you see him? Good to see me? You call in, and we have one attendee

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attendees. There's Larry.

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Jim Robb: Okay, put him in

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Brian Averill: a wicked.

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Brian Averill: We could promote him to panelists when they uh

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the uh tennis stuff comes up.

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Jim Robb: Okay, Do you know what

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Jim Robb: you know to put the agenda up, so we can go through that when we're there.

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Brian Averill: I mean honestly, I prefer to see People's faces of the agenda like you.

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Jim Robb: Okay,

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Jim Robb: I'm not. I'm: not down with it.

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Jim Robb: Okay, Larry.

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Jim Robb: Hello, guys, We're not gonna promote you to panelists how we get to it, but hang in tight. I'm gonna tell Scott, he's on there, too. So

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Jim Robb: it's got a who gaddy that lives down the street from me. Plays. Paddle up with you guys. Oh, Scuddy Friedman, Okay,

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Jim Robb: so mute yourself till I get you back.

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Jim Robb: Hi, Scottie!

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Jim Robb: I'm here.

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Jim Robb: Hey, Scottie,

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scotty freedman: don't worry about it.

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Jim Robb: So we're going to go through the agenda first, and then i'll let you all bring you guys, Brian. I'll bring you guys all in, but it's your turn.

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Jim Robb: Sounds great,

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Jim Robb: all right.

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Jim Robb: It's a little early, Jim. People are okay for a few minutes.

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Jim Robb: What's the score, Brian?

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Brian Averill: Don't. Tell me,

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Brian Averill: try not to look at the square.

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Jim Robb: I couldn't get a hold of Bob.

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No worries. Figure it out

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Brian Averill: uh we could tell everyone about Jason's thing. Also.

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Jim Robb: Okay, yeah, perfect.

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Jim Robb: Hello, everybody. Hey, Jim, I think I think Andrew just jumped on. So I think we have.

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Jim Robb: there's a there

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Brian Averill: Yeah, we've got me, you Robin Andrew Noel,

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Jim Robb: all right. Well, let's get started then. Hi, Everybody

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Jim Robb: thanks for thanks for joining me on the Jewish holiday and Monday night football

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Jim Robb: we are going to. We only have two things going on tonight. We have the palace ball, the pickle ball issue, and then we have the lights that are out on the pier so hopefully it should be pretty quick. We have

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Jim Robb: Larry Nagler on with the He's with the Association for Paddle Ball, and of course, Sonia, with the parks of wreck. So

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Jim Robb: really going to have a discussion possibly move to uh

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Jim Robb: to make a motion after we find out what's going on once we get to it we'll let Larry speak, and then we'll have general public comments, and then we'll have Sonya, so she knows what's going on, and what the questions are, how's that sound?

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Brian Averill: Sounds great.

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Jim Robb: Okay, Call the meeting order. I would like to call the meeting to order. Please.

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Jim Robb: Six hundred and three. Okay.

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Jim Robb: I will do. Roll Call Ryan

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Jim Robb: the well

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Noel Johnston: here

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Jim Robb: theater.

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Jim Robb: Peter will be here momentarily. Okay, Robin, Here

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Jim Robb: I I will text it.

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Jim Robb: Mark Bra goes out as Dad passed away. So our condolence is to mark.

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Jim Robb: Uh, Andrew,

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Jim Robb: are you?

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Jim Robb: The lead

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Jim Robb: is here here,

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Jim Robb: and Lexi is not here. Okay,

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Jim Robb: so we do have

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Jim Robb: for him

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Jim Robb: who I am putting out the minutes from the prior meeting. Who wants to second? That

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Jim Robb: Okay. So we have approved minutes for the prior meeting,

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Jim Robb: moving right along

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Jim Robb: public comments not related to the Ocean Front Walk Committee. Do we have any vote on a minute?

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Jim Robb: All right.

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Noel Johnston: Actually, actually, I have. I have a thing that I don't know whether it's a comment or not. Um! At the very north end of a speedway there is when it intersects with a Barnard way.

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Noel Johnston: There is a lot of traffic confusion right now, because there are signs that are pointing in opposite directions. Signs that are saying, Do not enter. I'm wondering. Do we want to weigh in on this? Or would we rather just have it taken over by the Traffic Committee?

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Brian Averill: I would send it to this parking. Also, I think we have to agendize stuff before we can actually make a motion.

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scotty freedman: Oh, okay, maybe right,

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Noel Johnston: that's

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Noel Johnston: that's fine. But I it sounds to me like I should just bring it up with traffic.

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Brian Averill: I think that that's where it would end up, anyway.

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Noel Johnston: Okay, fine. Thank you

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Jim Robb: Sorry, I think. Okay.

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Jim Robb: So Who do we have any public comment? Not. Oh, go ahead, Coli:

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evelynsaro: Oh, first I think we need to vote on the minutes, and then second,

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evelynsaro: I didn't see on the agenda for uh

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evelynsaro: public comment of non-agendized items so i'm not sure that comes in at or not not public common, but just common, because I had a

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evelynsaro: I don't know.

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Jim Robb: So on. Yes, since it wasn't. So I just want to be sure I asked the question. Thank you.

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Jim Robb: Alright, Let's go to the public comment.

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Jim Robb: We vote on the uh prior minute.

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Jim Robb: Brian. Yes, Noel,

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Jim Robb: Robin,

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Jim Robb: I got it,

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Brian Averill: Robin. You muted back and Robin

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Jim Robb: Andrew.

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Andrew Mika: I wasn't here. Well, I don't. I didn't read the five minutes up by drawing. Do I need to approve this? You could just upstairs?

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Jim Robb: Thank you.

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evelynsaro: Yes,

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Jim Robb: I will vote. Yes, Robin,

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Brian Averill: it might be a way. Let's move on

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Jim Robb: moving on

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Jim Robb: public comments, not agendized items that are related, not from that

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Jim Robb: on agenda items related to the ocean front walk.

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Jim Robb: Who do we have? Put your hands up, please, folks. We've got about twelve people in the crowd here anyone who would like to make a public comment.

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Jim Robb: We've got Louis, who, I believe, is the new C. The eleven Rep.

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Jim Robb: Jump in there,

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Louie Leiva (he/him): hey? All I just wanted to let you know that I'm also on the call, and I've been in. I'm taking general notes so that I can report back to the Council member, so I just wanted to let you all know that I'm here actively paying attention. That's all

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Jim Robb: welcome. Thank you. You can join anytime.

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Jim Robb: All right anybody else. Brian

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Brian Averill: Jason is here. Jason Sugars go for it, Jason.

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Jason Sugars: I am not making any public comment. Just also let you guys know that i'm here and saying, Hey, I've not been to one of your meetings before, so I want a new check in as an

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Jim Robb: Yup, Jason, Please tell us what you got going on. You're more than welcome to, because it's over here, and I think Sonia Pario knows about it as well.

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Jason Sugars: Well, I mean it's it's not that we don't have our return back to the to the park

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scotty freedman: yet over to Sonya and to ah and to melody. But we're looking at doing a jazz festival in an at the park at Venice. Ah, recreation in the river with fossil section of the park,

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Jason Sugars: three stages of log jazz and jazz-related music, our young bands from Los Angeles area. It's dedicated to and in honor of a jazz club that existed on what is now advocating back from one thousand nine hundred and seventy-seven, as is the festival itself, is also called the as is jazz festival

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Jason Sugars: um. So it'll be two stages of live jazz daytime, holding as well as taking over some of the due to areas

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Jason Sugars: in the skating, and perhaps at the larger basketball court. So it's a little Michael Jazz fest four business by the

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Jim Robb: Thank you, Jason.

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Brian Averill: Love it. Oh, hey, Jason, can you tell everyone when that would be?

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Jason Sugars: That's going to be on Sunday, November sixth. It'll be starting with this music at eleven, and with the live music at twelve, and ending at seven o'clock with the last band's going on in about six or so daytime. Non-obtrusive thing. It's free and free for the entire family. As well, so we're not blocking the new back on your own

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Brian Averill: Very cool. Thanks, ma'am.

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Jim Robb: uh any more. Besides, Scottie, I think, Scott, you might want to say something.

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scotty freedman: hey? Guys. Can you hear me?

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scotty freedman: I just wanted to first off thank the Bnc. For having me and allowing me to voice my vote. I'm sorry my opinion. What's going on? I also want to thank this wonderful community organization of

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scotty freedman: Steve Don't know Christine Lee? Um! The rest of the crowd. I know i'm missing some people. They did some really great work to try to help the courts done so. That's fantastic. So you know, just to voice my concern. And, by the way. Hello, Mrs. And Venice! I never met you before. I heard some great things about you. I'm sure. At some point we'll meet as well.

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scotty freedman: Good to meet you. So yeah, I mean, it's just so fantastic that the fences are getting done. And then you guys did a collaborative effort, and you know It's just

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scotty freedman: from what I see from being here for forty eight years, being the game's greatest champion, no ego intended, or anything, and just seeing it all in the last forty five years of being here.

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scotty freedman: Um! And all the changes and all the wonderful things that are done. Nothing negative, of course. Um, I think it's just a wonderful opportunity for us to kind of continue on and get the courts a little bit resurfaced. I know there's been some heavy operating machinery and equipment on the courts during the fencing project.

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Jim Robb: It's natural, and the courts are kind of really in tough shape.

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scotty freedman: Yeah,

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Jim Robb: not agenda, is the items.

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Jim Robb: I'm sorry. I apologize. Anyway, i'll get that's all. I'm Good. I'm gonna have to finish the rest of that in a little bit.

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scotty freedman: I wanted to let you guys know, if you need any help for me, as not only a champion of the game, it's been a long time. I'm also a community resident. I live in best, and i'd be happy to help in any way which possible. So thank you all very, very much for doing an incredible job. Thank you, Mrs. Amenas, you did a great job. Thank you very much. Guys

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Jim Robb: all right.

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evelynsaro: Ah, yeah, since Ah sun is on um, you know we live right on the boardwalk, and there's a lot of lights that are out on the boardwalk, and also some of the shades have have fallen off of the lights on the boardwalk that are supposed to shade in front of the apartments the few apartments that are still along the board walk. So if those can get fixed. That would be great. We've got

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evelynsaro: two lights out in front of Ah, our apartment complex, which is the beach house, and those have been out for like three months, so that would be great if those can get replaced, and also have those

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evelynsaro: shades on. So it doesn't blind us at night. Thank you.

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Jim Robb: Uh, no. Well, quick,

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Jim Robb: no, All you're muted. I see you.

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Jim Robb: Hi, Peter,

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Jim Robb: All good. Okay, We got two of our other Ocean Front Committee people here. Nick's here, and and Peter is here so moving on any more questions.

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Brian Averill: No. So we have Sonya's update next. If you want to move on,

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Jim Robb: do we want to do her.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: I didn't know I was talking. It's just on mute. Okay,

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Brian Averill: in a while you've been muted for the last minute or so.

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Noel Johnston: I can't just one second.

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Noel Johnston: Can you hear me now?

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Brian Averill: Yes,

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Noel Johnston: okay, thank you. Everybody. Sorry I was late. I, my son, flew in today. I just totally spaced out on time. Thank you for your patience.

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Noel Johnston: Uh! I just wanted to make an announcement that Ah, on October thirty first, the last year Project and neighborhoodies and all of us as the community and the Ocean Front Walk Committee, and we're all going to pitch in, and i'm having a skateboard event on October thirty first from two to six. It's called skating scare, and I hope every if you have anything to input, please feel free to call me an input and be part of this. Ah, but we're going to start as an annual event,

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Noel Johnston: and it's called skating scare. So i'm going to leave it at that.

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Okay, Thanks, Peter

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Jim Robb: Ryan. Do we want Larry to speak and then do public comment, and then have Sonya follow up so that she doesn't get hit twice.

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Jim Robb: Okay,

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Jim Robb: you're out to be like a general thing.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: Sure. Um, Everybody thank you for having me on um, so you can not not football or like um. So Just so. You guys know ocean for a walk. I've been working with our maintenance crews. We got them trained up as hazwoper, which is like environmental compliance officers. I know you guys have probably heard the sanitation.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: They kind of exhausted their overtime being able to help us at night, but we haven't skipped the bee. We've continued the peanuts at night. We're actually looking to add another night. So probably in the next couple of weeks we're going to add two nights, so that we're doing overnight. Clean up two nights a day, two days a night to help with the homeless activity that we're having along ocean from walk. So

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Sonya Young Jimenez: we got a lot of more supplies and utilities, and lapd and sate Joseph, and working with us really well, to make sure we're on top of it.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: So that's just one thing we did hire a new full-time recreation Coordinator. Her name is astrid So Melody finally had some help at the office that's great um, and as she's really good, she's great at graphic design, and she's looking already jumped in headfirst. She's been there a couple of weeks of us now. So you guys would like to see her at the next meeting.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: Um, anything else. Yeah, We're excited for the Jazz festival that's going to be a really cool event, and i'm like, you know, there's a There's events pretty much every weekend at Venice. So a lot more to come. I don't know if anything else. Specifically you want me to touch on. But those are the main ones

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Jim Robb: I know. I went to I.

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Jim Robb: Yeah, yeah, if you, if what you got coming up

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Sonya Young Jimenez: I'm coming up

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Sonya Young Jimenez: right now. It's kind of we're just starting to program. Melody really wants to do our own programming. So we've been looking to hire in-house instructors to do some yoga, some

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Sonya Young Jimenez: some activities in front of the muscle beach area. So we've been looking to get instructors who can do like weightlifting class or any kind of like um exercise classes that we can host to get people to find out more.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: I don't know if you guys saw we get adaptive surfing. We worked with our adaptive division. That was a really great program on the beach, and they also did surfing classes with our aquatic division. We're looking to expand that next year.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: That went really well this year. By the way, it was really good. We had a media day, two weekends ago, and we had a lot of

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Sonya Young Jimenez: Kara Olympian surfers off at the beach promoting that program as well. That's about it. I think I can think off the top of my head.

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Jim Robb: Awesome. Yeah, that my wife will be excited. She can walk out and do yoga two blocks away. She may be interested in helping.

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Brian Averill: Thank you, Sonia.

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Jim Robb: Thank you so much.

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Jim Robb: All right, So let's talk about the lights at the pier, Peter.

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Jim Robb: Well, that's the mixed notion you wanna?

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Jim Robb: Oh, did I got an update today from our electricians? Because I want to update. But you know, first one,

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Jim Robb: I think. Why don't you go ahead.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: Yeah. So I spoke with the electricians this morning. They didn't. They have ten lights as of right now,

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Sonya Young Jimenez: I know. Several months ago we had fixed majority of them, but they keep shorting out. So the infrastructure, the conduit underneath the fear is really bad.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: Um! That'll have to go into our face, too, which we're still like trying to get all the funds for for the pier. But they haven't ordered the supplies, and they're all in. So they have ten because of today. They're going to be working on Saturday to do some more and repairs. And he said he did get the supplies, and that they ordered. So it's looking really good. Hopefully, We'll have some more. But right now it's like a fix. It, because it really needs to be the infrastructure of the conduits, and because of the you know, water and everything in the

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Sonya Young Jimenez: the way that underneath it, it's really close. I don't need to appear to the ocean theaterre playing was better than me. What's happening under there? But the electrician said, it's just a long term thing that we're going to have to fix when the time comes he's calling me from a comment.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: That's all for that one.

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Jim Robb: All right.

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Jim Robb: Your motion. Do you want to follow up there?

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Brian Averill: Or was that satisfactory.

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Nick Antonicello: I just wanted to get some. I have something to say on this.

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Jim Robb: Okay, we will. They have even a minute. No? Well go ahead, Nick.

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Nick Antonicello: So there. There's seventeen light posts on the on the Venice pier.

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Nick Antonicello: How many now who are working and coming or not?

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Sonya Young Jimenez: The report this morning that you said that ten are working.

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Nick Antonicello: So that means there's a net gain of four.

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Nick Antonicello: So four have been repaired,

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Sonya Young Jimenez: I guess. So. Yeah. I just wanted to get some clarity as to where we're at,

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Nick Antonicello: I mean I can walk back here at the maybe look for myself, but

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Nick Antonicello: mean, I want to move forward with the motion only because I want to make sure. I mean, these lights have been after month. Not,

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Nick Antonicello: and we need to get the fixed.

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Jim Robb: we're going on the motion. Now you're asking me. Well, well, that I want Peter to talk, and then I want the maybe a timeline for. So yeah, And who else? We can hit up to

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Jim Robb: just closely how we withdraw the motion. If If Sonya can give us some kind of a timeline when they'll all be fed. But then, if you're saying to us November fifteenth, and only six or whatever, then

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Jim Robb: all right, i'll. I'll trust you that back. Then. All right, let's so hold on a second. So you let me see what Peter got to say, so we can. Okay, Peter, go ahead.

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Noel Johnston: Um. I just wanted to state that the pier has a lot of deterioration where the conduits were underneath the lamp post, and when we had our electro-fire two years ago in July, when it damaged the ramp.

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Noel Johnston: Um! None of that has been able. It's shorted out down the line So over time they've been trying to patch work it together

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Noel Johnston: really has to be a line item for the record parks down the road to get the whole thing replaced, and it's going to take some time to do it so if we can keep it half lit up right now. I'm pretty happy with that. But it would be nice. I think it's a city priority for safety to get the lights up.

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Noel Johnston: You shouldn't have a dark peer at night. That's my only comment.

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Jim Robb: Thank you

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Jim Robb: What do you think, Brian? Is there public comments? Do we want to do that? Or

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Jim Robb: I'm going? Go ahead.

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Jim Robb: Go ahead, Sonya.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: That's the next one. I'm an electrician. So I really didn't give you a timeline, the electrician said. They'll be there Saturday, so I can find out after Saturday. You know what percentage they were able to fix after Saturday,

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Sonya Young Jimenez: but i'm happy that they did get the supplies that they said they needed to do it. It is like um, you know this isn't the permanent fix. It's like a fix, for now there is phase two, you know, phase. One was all the underside of the pier. So all the structural components phase two is the top half. So we are. We do have. I have to look into the as far as construction crew like where we are right now, but I know we have several million that are already, you know, a set aside for case two of the project, and I know Cd. Eleven has an allocated certain amount of seventy funds for that as well. So I know we're getting towards that.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: In response to what Peter was saying like, we have that item in that big project. But we're not there yet.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: I don't know more after Saturday what they're able to accomplish.

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Brian Averill: Sonia, Do you need? Do you need help from Cd. Eleven with this. Are you sort of the Cd. Eleven partnering with you on prioritizing the pure lights

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Sonya Young Jimenez: they're already on board. I mean, I know that he's mute, but the rest of the time we've already been talking about it. So it is a priority. It's just getting the the funding for it,

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Sonya Young Jimenez: and they have allocated a big chunk of funds out of the can be just for the peer.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: All right.

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Brian Averill: Got it? Okay? So do you think it would be helpful for you if we pass this motion, or are we just sort of yelling into the void here? Is it already happening?

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Sonya Young Jimenez: I mean, I think we're working on it. The guys are already organized so hopefully, a majority of the lights will be up after Sunday. I just don't. I can't give you a definitive action on any.

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Jim Robb: Go ahead, Jake.

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Nick Antonicello: I'm more than happy to withdraw the motion as long as you have some understanding that

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Nick Antonicello: this thing can be fixed in a time of bastion. And obviously you're telling us you'll know more every Saturday. So my suggestion is all with drug emotion, and then let's see where we are in the month of October, and if they're still down, and you give us an update, or tell us what the story is,

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Nick Antonicello: if it's a long-term tax. I'm assuming this is a long-term capital improvement,

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Nick Antonicello: and that it's probably going to cost you about a million dollars in one of the lights not only is out, but the lamp top of the lamp post is blowing off. I don't know what happened, but the light is completely blown off the

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Nick Antonicello: so as of yesterday there were eleven unlit life.

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Nick Antonicello: i'll withdraw the motion based on Lucania said, and she'll no more. Maybe it's not yet after Saturday, and you for next week you can send Jim Rob an email, and he can share it with us as to where we're at, and then

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Nick Antonicello: based on what we learned on Saturday. There's a need to have an update at the October.

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Jim Robb: Yeah, I was thinking the same after I I hear from the electricians. I can give you guys an update next week.

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Jim Robb: Thank you. That'd be great, Pete. So well, Peter, quickly, what are you guys? You're good. You're unmuted.

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Noel Johnston: No, we we we don't have our hands up, we uh we're we're with uh Nick on this.

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Jim Robb: Okay, I'm late mute, and you again. You're muted, Nick mute, please.

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Jim Robb: Uh, we're we're we're we're with Nick on this

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Jim Robb: alright, great Let's move on.

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Jim Robb: It's moving on

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Jim Robb: out of all court is next. Maybe Larry could sort of introduce us to what's going on, and that we could open it to public comment.

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Jim Robb: Have I unmute? Can you hear me? Yeah,

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Larry Nagler: Okay. I want to thank everybody for giving me this opportunity to

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Larry Nagler: present our side of the story, and how we believe we got here.

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Larry Nagler: I basically represent several hundred

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Larry Nagler: of the paddle tennis players.

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Larry Nagler: This is an extremely extremely important set of issues that has created a lot of

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Larry Nagler: difficulty, and I want to tell you how I got there. But before I begin, I want to

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Larry Nagler: give those of you to whom I have never spoken some of my background

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Larry Nagler: to help you evaluate what i'm about to say.

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Larry Nagler: For many years. I was the general counsel for the Southern California Tennis Association,

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Larry Nagler: and I served several Presidents over the years essentially for unpro Bono and i'm doing this pro bono as well.

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Larry Nagler: I was formerly a professional tennis player,

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Larry Nagler: and I played on the tennis circuit for eight years.

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Larry Nagler: I was Arthur as his doubles partner.

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Larry Nagler: and I participated in the birth of open tennis.

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Larry Nagler: I was on the panel of arbitrators for disputes for the Atp, which is the Association of Task professionals.

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Larry Nagler: I was a municipal Court Judge pro Tam for two years in the Los Angeles Municipal Court,

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Larry Nagler: and I'm going to.

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Larry Nagler: We're now going to recite to you

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Larry Nagler: which I researched and got all the support that was possible to get for to tell you how we got here.

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Larry Nagler: Several months ago

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Larry Nagler: after. It was reported to us that a woman by the name of Sonya Odaluchi, a woman who runs a pickleball group.

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Larry Nagler: was spreading the word that the Department of Recreation and Parks is planning to paint pickle ball lines on at least three of the paddle tennis courts

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Larry Nagler: although we saw it, we couldn't get any definitive answers to the or the recreation in parts, plans related to repairing the fences. This is a long time ago now,

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Larry Nagler: whether they would replace the paddle tennis bleachers that had been removed during the pandemic.

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Larry Nagler: Miss Oda, Lucy said she had a permit from recreation, and parks for her twice weekly pickleball. Use

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Larry Nagler: It is our understanding that she is being charged nothing for this use. Yet

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Larry Nagler: so I contacted a gentleman who identified himself as an official pickleball ambassador to ask how it was that Sonya was given such a permit, but he had no idea, and no one seems to know how this happened.

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Larry Nagler: In addition, the pick up all players that we're using the courts

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Larry Nagler: This is a violation of a city ordinance,

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Larry Nagler: and I brought this city ordinance to the attention of the recreation and parks in a formal letter.

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Larry Nagler: We also learned that the recreation and parks. People had granted a permit

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Larry Nagler: This has created many chaotic disputes

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Larry Nagler: with the paddle tennis players during prime playing times during the week, and is freezing out the paddle tennis players from the courts, and we believe this cannot go on. So I did some legal research,

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Jim Robb: Hey? Hang on one second. I'm gonna give you probably about eight minutes, so

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Larry Nagler: So I got the construction permit to build the title tennis courts

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Larry Nagler: This means that the covenant and the condition applies a hundred percent of the time as to the use of the courts,

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Larry Nagler: and they require that the lines on the court must be paddled tennis lines

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Larry Nagler: In my legal opinion, which I have transmitted to the recreation in parks and to the City Council and to the Coastal Commission.

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Larry Nagler: This covenant and condition makes it illegal to permit the use of the paddle tennis courts for pickable at all.

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Larry Nagler: It makes it illegal to paint. Pick them all lines on the court

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Larry Nagler: so, on June sixteenth, I sent all of this information to recreation, and Parks Coastal Commission City Council. I attach copies of all the the relevant documents, and I requested this be given to the city attorney,

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Larry Nagler: Please have the city attorney contact me, and tell me if i'm wrong?

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Larry Nagler: But, as you can understand, this provides very limited comfort or protection to the paddle tennis community, because plans can easily change with new administrations,

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Larry Nagler: and this didn't go away because Mrs. Oda, Lucy has continued to state that pickle lines were going to be painted on the courts when the court reports are repainted, so we need certainty on these issues

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Larry Nagler: So we asked I. Then we asked what recreation of parks to meet with us before the fences were repaired

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Larry Nagler: so that we could have input and try, and we offered to try to help to finance the resurfacing. But nobody would meet with us.

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Larry Nagler: I then contacted an old client of mine who builds tennis courts, and I said, Hey, what should this cost you

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Larry Nagler: and he said to refence. The eleven courts should cost about forty, five thousand to sixty thousand, if done privately

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Larry Nagler: But if you're going to be involved with prevailing wage. Double that.

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Larry Nagler: So on August the eighth,

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Larry Nagler: after months of trying to get definitive answers about the timing and plans to refence the courts and repay or resurface them. We send a written proposal to recreation and parks, laying out the cost of information I just told you,

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Larry Nagler: and asking them to allow us to participate to help get a formal assessment of costs to replace and to replace the benches

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Larry Nagler: which are not there,

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Larry Nagler: we said we leave. We could raise the money to do this privately and reasonably, promptly,

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Jim Robb: and we showed them that there were two precedents for having done this in the past. We did this twice before we paid privately for the resurfacing. There you got two minutes, so you all I can say is that if you cut me off. This is not going.

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Jim Robb: We were I'm not going to catch you off. Keep going

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Larry Nagler: all right. We were not told that a contract had already been led.

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Larry Nagler: We were told that the matter was being assessed. We were told that we would be informed as to the results of the assessment, but we never were.

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Larry Nagler: The same day that I sent the proposal. This a menace wrote me and said she's reached out to planning and construction division to inquire about this, ask this, ask that we wanted to participate, and she said, i'll keep you posted,

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Larry Nagler: but she didn't. She never contacted me. We heard nothing. She did not keep me posted.

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Larry Nagler: Three days later I sent that proposal, and I asked that it'd be put on the agenda for recreation and parks, and that wasn't done.

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Larry Nagler: So I searched, and I found the contract, and I found the contract was for six hundred thousand dollars, five hundred, plus a contingency of one hundred or six hundred.

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Larry Nagler: We desperately tried to find out if they're going to do any resurfacing.

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Larry Nagler: Eventually we were told. Hey, It's not going to be resurface. It's going to be repainted.

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Larry Nagler: But the cost disparity between what it should cluster offense and what's being charged as alarm. Many people,

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Larry Nagler: both in the paddle tennis community, and in the Venice Neighborhood Council, particularly since we're now being told there's not enough money to resurface the courts and repaying the courts is useless.

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Larry Nagler: And here's the reasons why

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Larry Nagler: a mess has been made of the surfaces of the court. As a result of the refencing heavy machinery was used to pull out the old fence posts, cementing the new post with obvious consequences.

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Larry Nagler: The courts have been subjected to wear and tear, and have not been resurfaced for many years, and there are already holes, bumps, irregularities, and evenness of the surface. On many of the courts. You cannot have championship paddle courts, and you can't have national championships

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Larry Nagler: that it are so defective. It's all in jeopardy,

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Jim Robb: Larry, what is your What is your big? Ask?

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Jim Robb: All right. So So

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Jim Robb: we ask you.

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Larry Nagler: Well, you know, I mean I just I'm going to cut through very quickly. Let me summarize the rest of it. Okay, Um, you know, as a result of not being able to get anybody to pay attention to us. We made these motions which we all know about,

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Larry Nagler: and I I think

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Larry Nagler: you know I've been asked by our people, what are our options if we don't do this? And I had to advise them that they have an option of a lawsuit which I do not want to do.

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Larry Nagler: I do not want to get involved in this. I want to do this through through cooperation. The last thing I want to do is file a lawsuit,

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Jim Robb: you know, but in person for just one second.

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evelynsaro: That Ah, Larry, I understand, and i'm on your side. But since Sonia is on is on with us. Well had been. Let's have her answer the question. Let me let me finish this. I've I've round it up just so we can kind of give.

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Larry Nagler: Okay, Okay, we want to get the courts resurfaced, And we want to solve this problem with the pickleball people,

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Larry Nagler: you know. Keep in mind that the

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Larry Nagler: courts are the Mecca for paddle tennis in the United States, and people from all over the world come here.

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Larry Nagler: We just recently had the number three tennis player in the world come here, and he saw the condition of the courts, and he basically made fun of it on Instagram. So we want

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Larry Nagler: to ask, Please

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Larry Nagler: with us,

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Larry Nagler: help us get this thing resurfaced, and help us solve this terrible mess with the pickleball players. We we

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Larry Nagler: we cannot

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Larry Nagler: lose these valuable pickleball or the paddle tennis ports. When the Pickle ball players have multiple pickleball courts all over the place,

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Larry Nagler: these courts were created subject to these restrictions, and everybody is ignoring them. I don't know what else to say. I've tried to do the best I can

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Jim Robb: thank you. Later, I hear what the Sonya has to say.

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Jim Robb: Let us hear what son you has to say. Thank you, Larry.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: Alright, Thank you. Um,

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Sonya Young Jimenez: we're going to start. So, regarding capable. So I have so. But with the adult tennis community that we are not going to be adding any pickable lines. I know you're You're right. It is for the management. I'm. I'm. Currently the management. I don't know how long i'll be there, but

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Sonya Young Jimenez: for my, you know, stay there. We are not going to be adding any pick up on lines. I've said this to many of the pickle ball I mean title ten is

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Sonya Young Jimenez: leaders, so that they're aware, and it feels like we keep fostering this notion that they're going to happen. I can talk to Sonya as well. I didn't. I was unaware that she's ah saying that we're going to add pickle bowling.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: The pickleball hours were there before I got here, and it was just an understanding. I've also talked to a lot of the title kind of people, and they were okay with it, just having those day in time. I believe it's choose. I forgot the days. It's like Tuesday, Thursdays for certain hours, where they do allow people, and it was just a mutual agreement. There is no permit. There was no permit on file when I got there it was just something that I was like

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Sonya Young Jimenez: handshake agreement between the paddle and a stick of all groups. That's what I can say about pickleball

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Sonya Young Jimenez: regarding the

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Sonya Young Jimenez: What about the resurfacing? So yes, we can talk, Larry to see. Unfortunately, when we did start a discussion, the agreement for the fencing was already kind of underway. Um, and I know It's probably backwards. But you know we should have done the rest of the bottom first. But we really thought the pen thing was really horrible and

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Sonya Young Jimenez: know dangerous. So we thought that was our priority. We can still look into it to look into

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Sonya Young Jimenez: doing the flooring. I don't have anything to do with like contracts, or who gets chosen It's a city process they do bid. They go out to bid, and that's the prices that they got. I I don't know city city contracts, and I don't know how

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Sonya Young Jimenez: you know they came up with this prices. I'm not a tennis fence expert. So I don't really know what the pricing you know should be, or you know what you're saying it should be. But that's the the quote that we were given, and that's the price we went with. So that was, you know, um allocated to Kimberly funds from the Sc. Eleven office, and we wanted to rush on that, because the the offensive was so bad.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: But we can. I don't mind working with your group to see if we can look about doing the funding for the resurfacing.

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Jim Robb: Okay, Yeah, um. So this is my question. I just want to confirm that i'm hearing everything right. I understand how the tape is going to mess up the surfacing, and then it's probably going to

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evelynsaro: it. It probably would mess up

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evelynsaro: for the pal guys, so

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evelynsaro: there are no longer supposed to be taping for pickleball. Correct? That's just a yes or no question or yes, no answer.

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evelynsaro: No. I was still going to allow me to tape you. You're still going to allow the tape. Okay, if you're resurfacing. So, though, you don't want to take, because that's going to screw up the surfacing. You're going to throw all the money away. So there's got to be another alternative.

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evelynsaro: Um and I don't know what that would be. Um, I don't do pickleball or paddleball, although I've always won the tripad of all. I've just never done it. So how many courts are out there? Is it? Is it

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evelynsaro: Six or eight, eleven, eleven. Okay. So let me ask this. I'm just throwing it out there. And if this Hasn't already happened, or if it has, forgive me. But if there's eleven, then why don't we give like

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evelynsaro: at least or three, just to pick a ball, and that's it, and then pat, that's why the paddle, and then the paddle thing can have everything

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Sonya Young Jimenez: that could never happen. They'll crucify you,

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Sonya Young Jimenez: but you can try. That's what I try to do with it.

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Jim Robb: And who's going to crucify me? I'm. Not so. That's never going to happen. Who? Why is it? Every time, colleen, we had a motion at the Bnc. On Tuesday. This this this is the second part of the motion that very quick through to the Nc. Right. Can you explain a little bit? Oh, you did. We're on in?

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Jim Robb: No, but I I agree. Why can't we give them two or three, and just cut the crap? There's a land Use restriction agreement on this. It's the law. These were Bill as paddle boards,

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Jim Robb: this committee, nor any other committee. I had to go through this with Ludbeck to has any jurisdiction over the law, the

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Andrew Mika: literally it's a legal document.

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evelynsaro: Well, then, there's that I haven't, said you. Well, wait a second. Then. If there is a legal law, and you can't change it. Then there should not be a tape on those courts, either. There should not be a

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Andrew Mika: that's correct. Yes, there these courts are made from paddle tennis.

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evelynsaro: It's a It's an accident

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Jim Robb: that resolves it right there, then. So okay. So would I take on a second,

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Jim Robb: so you can go ahead, or we can see what Nick says, and you can do. It's up to you day, whatever you want.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: Yeah, I I don't know I've had our lawyers Look at the same documents Larry sent me over, and I don't he doesn't agree either. That's written for perpetuity. So I don't know that's maybe a legal discussion that the lawyers have to have. Those documents are very old when it was first built, and I don't agree with that statement that it can never be used for anything else. Um, you know That's why we gave a permit. We figured a one weekend permit, but that was like,

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Sonya Young Jimenez: you know a horrible idea if the pilot was very upset, so we you know we also cancelled the Friday permits. We didn't renew their permit, because i'd just rather not have to deal with it and just leave it for for paddle tennis.

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Jim Robb: Thank you for that and go ahead, Nick.

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Nick Antonicello: Yeah, I I just had a couple of questions.

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Nick Antonicello: Uh, according to the amount of money it's been appropriated for this

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Nick Antonicello: in the neighborhood of six hundred and twenty thousand.

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Nick Antonicello: Are we repainting. That. Are we repainting the panel tennis courts, or are we resurfacing, and then we pay? That's my first question. My second question is, there seems to be more than enough money

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Nick Antonicello: to do whatever you need to do down there, since six hundred and twenty thousand, when appropriate, and according to Larry and some other people, the actual cost

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Nick Antonicello: even doubled with prevailing wages about two hundred caps.

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Nick Antonicello: So are we, in fact, repaving all the courts; and if we're not, why not

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Nick Antonicello: and is there more than enough money to do whatever needs to be done; that

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Sonya Young Jimenez: the money that was allocated was only for fencing and re-painting any. If any damage was done during their installation, that we think in that as well not for repaying.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: I don't know puncher contracts according to the contract. That was the amount that was quoted for that.

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Jim Robb: Uh, go ahead, Khalif.

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evelynsaro: Ok. So getting back to the legalization of this document, so to maybe resolve the issues again.

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evelynsaro: Then maybe, if the paddle people would be okay with it, then just a lot, two quarts and two courts only for pickleball, and it stays. It stays taped, and that way the other courts Aren't Aren't damaged in any way, and if the people can't accept it, will

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they need it.

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evelynsaro: Yeah, I don't understand, because if it's to me that would, there's got to be some kind of a

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evelynsaro: compromise that we can do, and i'm on Larry's side on this paddle needs to take priority. Those things have been there forever.

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evelynsaro: It wasn't this word on by the Dnc. Like, Why are we

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Andrew Mika: the like? What's already been litigated.

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Jim Robb: Okay, Exactly. So Do you go ahead and let's see if we can come to a compromise. There's a couple people that want to speak

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Sonya Young Jimenez: sure, I mean, that was my understanding. That was an agreement before I even got here, and I talked to a lot of the members of China who were fine with that agreement with the two days a week. It's not like it's a couple of hours. It's not the whole day that they let football play

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Sonya Young Jimenez: Um! I think they got more upset because we did the permit, and then they were adding more titles to people. Um, but we're not going to be adding any more. It'll just be those two days they've had for years. Um! That I feel like they've been doing.

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Jim Robb: Okay, Larry, i'm going to let you speak again, But not right now. I'm going to let the comment. We're going to make public comment. It's going to be? How many? Two minutes each

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Jim Robb: one minute the community! Katrina

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Brian Averill: Katrina, Go ahead!

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Jim Robb: Hi! I think i'm great. Hi! I am an actin. My name is Katrina Glusak. I'm. An active member of the community. I was on the parking committee with Nick and with Jim. Um. My son goes to a local school here, so I've I've been in Venice forever. I grew up in the area as well.

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Katrina Glusac: I am the closest neighbor i'm. I'm talking on behalf of noise. I am the closest resident to the courts. My balcony is the balcony on Court Number One. Um, I am the Reggae guys below me. Everything else, I think you know exactly where I live.

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Katrina Glusac: My issue is the noise that comes from pickleball versus paddle tennis. When I moved into this building

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Katrina Glusac: there was no pickleball being played here, and all of the residents in the building, all of my neighbors

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Katrina Glusac: very upset at the noise that comes from Tickle Ball. You guys might not understand. But if you go read some of these articles all over the country, there are really large arguments coming from the fact that pickleball has this decibel count that is much higher than tennis and paddle tennis. The count is even lower because the ball is actually deflated. So there's a deadening of the ball when it hits versus the pickle ball noise. Um, just in that one weekend tournament. It was

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Katrina Glusac: here it drove me crazy. I can hear the noise on the Tuesday and Thursday mornings. I can't work in the front. It's more noise than music, and it echoes down the alleyway here on twentieth,

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Katrina Glusac: and I just ask that you please be um respectful of the residents. When all of us moved into this area we knew there's boardwalk noise. We we have the slight noise from the paddle tennis, but it really rounds out. But that pickle ball is a grinding noise that is just not fair, for the residents that didn't exist. Prior. So I am asking that we're listening to

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Jim Robb: Thank you.

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Jim Robb: Uh, Brian, who's next?

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Jim Robb: We have.

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Brian Averill: Go ahead as me.

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Esme gregson: Hello! Hello! Can you hear me? Hi! My name is Esme Gregson. Um, thanks for letting me speak on the issue.

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I'm the Paralegal assisting Larry with the research for this case, and I am

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Esme gregson: when I I was very involved. Very early on

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Esme gregson: I'm. Located the city or the county Ordinance, which applies here. It's counting its county ordinance

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Esme gregson: Chapter seventeen point zero, four point three, four,

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Esme gregson: and I'm not going to read the ordinance to you. But essentially what it says

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Esme gregson: is

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Esme gregson: that um

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Esme gregson: no one other than a duly-authorized park employee show in the performance of their duty. Shell

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Jim Robb: it's sorry

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Jim Robb: that was me. Sorry.

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Esme gregson: Oh, that's okay. And um. So every single time that a person

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Esme gregson: puts tape down on a court. Ah fixes a net to a court that a public net is there in violation of the law, and Sonia is mistaken. We never agree. Um, so. Um sorry ms himen is is mistaken. There was never an agreement.

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Esme gregson: Sonya Odalichi lied to everyone, and said that she had a permit to play there. So just just that's all I want to do.

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Esme gregson: Say, Thank you.

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Jim Robb: That's very good, though. Thank you. Okay, Scottie, i'm going to call you since your hands up and you're on a panelist. You got one in it,

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Jim Robb: Hey, guys, once again, B. And C. I want to thank you, guys, for putting this meeting together as a liaison with Sonya and young men, and thank you, Mrs. Amenas, for being on the line and being a wonderful facility director at Dennis Beach.

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scotty freedman: Um. I worked very closely with Fred and all the other ones, and Victor and everybody in the past, and sounds like you're great, and you're doing wonderful for the time that you're going to be there. So essentially

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scotty freedman: just, you know. Want to be able to have Larry, who represents the voice of many community members, have his voice heard via through the Bnc. Allowing them to set up with the city,

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scotty freedman: and just allow Larry to really present a, you know, feasible proposal on getting the courts, Redone number One and number two just living up to the law of Bitcoin versus Venice. Ah, if need be, maybe perhaps the city needs to be built separate pick of all courts I don't know, but at the end of the day. Um, thank you very much for allowing me to play on these sports, and to have this wonderful free

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scotty freedman: public facility to play on. Let's keep that word in mind free. A lot of these courts have been privatized in Los Angeles city the last forty years, so we're very lucky to have these for free. So thanks again once again, and just just allow us to hear our voice and

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scotty freedman: think we'll put together a pretty good plan. Nothing crazy. But I think it'll all get done. So thanks a lot, Jim, for hosting, and thanks Mrs. Amenas, for being here.

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Brian Averill: Thanks, Scottie. We've got to. Adam next

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Adam Pokornicky: spoke about earlier in his discussion. It's a real problem. We have overcrowding that as it is at this course, the game has exploded. Obviously both for both sport pickle players do not really respect us. They come there,

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Adam Pokornicky: and they constantly, with very strong attitudes to strong beliefs. Think of their their courts, and and really create an issue That's not fun for all of us how to deal with trying to remove them, especially on the weekends and the prime time. The second point is like on the compromise.

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Adam Pokornicky: I don't know why we should be expected to compromise here these courts. There's eleven of them. There's simply not enough based on the demand, the amount of interest in.

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Brian Averill: We find some sort of our book up there at them, maybe repeat the last ten seconds or so.

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Adam Pokornicky: The art I i'm a compromise. Of course we are ready, as is deal with overcrowding, and have to spend sometimes hours waiting to play for ourselves, sharing the courts. It's not really ideal, that being, said Pic. Football does not need fenced in courts we do. We have very limited opportunities and places to play all around the city. These chords, obviously being the most important people, could be played anywhere all of these lines, and he is a different net.

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Adam Pokornicky: They can be placed anywhere along that boardwalk area, you if you want it to. I'm not suggesting that be done, but like why not take away from the basketball for one? I've been handball, of course. Why is it taking from one to give to another when they're no

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Adam Pokornicky: There's no justification and ruining the sort of like the ambiance, the ability for us to play It's just confusing that that might even be on the table.

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Jim Robb: Take out of

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Jim Robb: We've got to move it through. Okay.

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Brian Averill: But ah, Christine, next Christine, go for it.

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christinelee: Hi! There! My name's Christine and i'm a member of the cattle community. Obviously I' to run the tournaments in two thousand and nineteen, and I run the community page, and I just.

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christinelee: I just want to say that Sonya Melody's done a great job and really appreciate them getting the fences done first of all. Um! But I also just want you guys to know. Maybe Colleen doesn't know that pickle ball is nationwide. It is like taking over the world. They have plenty of places to play, and that if you go to a sonya o Deluchi's page, she actually lists, probably like

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christinelee: ten places where you can like Pick a ball. Well, guys, there's only a few places where you can play paddle tennis, and it really is an iconic sport like the skate art like Muscle Beach, and I really think that if we put a little bit money into the courts and make them world famous. You know, this could be the place where everybody comes to

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christinelee: super Venice. It's Venice local locals only. So I just really want to, you know. Just tell Colleen and the rest of you guys, we've already voted on this. We really don't think Pickle ball should be there because of conflict. It really gets ugly between the players, because it's just a different community. It's a very different game. I would even say it's a very different sport.

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Jim Robb: Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Thank you. That's the Sonya's got our hand up, so let's let her speak. And now we'll continue. Go ahead, Sonya.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: Okay, no. I just wanted to say one thing. So one thing that we are looking into me, and Melody is having a kiosk in the middle. Um, as you guys know, in the middle area, where there's like a little walkway to have like a keyon for a canopy there daily that would monitor who's entering the courts.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: So I know everyone's saying that they're taking over extra courts. Um, we're hoping that that would eliminate that. But they would only have the right now. It's Tuesday, Thursday. I just had a melody for me. It's Tuesday, Thursday's

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Sonya Young Jimenez: eight A. M. To twelve noon, so it's just those hours that is allowed for pickle ball.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: But we are, you know we do have a lot of penalties. People who do charge for classes and other things that we see going on as well. So we want to monitor that as well, and and make sure that everyone's following the rules. So that's our intention is to have a kiosk monitor that would be opening the gates for people to play. I'm not charging anything, but just making sure that we're monitoring a little more.

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Jim Robb: You stay on. Hang on, then we'll call you. Let's get the rest of them down, and then we'll get back to you.

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Brian Averill: Yeah, we got uh sean O'brien, Max,

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go for a shot,

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Brian Averill: Shawn. You got to unmute.

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Sean Obrien: Okay, Yeah, thanks. Um.

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Sean Obrien: Let's see how I can, I said. I'm just appalled that. How difficult it is for the city to keep the lights on it. Here, keep the paddle tennis cords. How long it took them to do a muscle beach and the weights,

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Sean Obrien: you know we're still waiting for them to resurface the boardwalk. That's why i'm just appalled as to how the city continues to treat, and Venice as the redheaded stepchild that we are.

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Sean Obrien: I appreciate all your work, guys. I'm just. I'm just so angry with you.

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Sean Obrien: How how difficult these simple situations become!

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Jim Robb: Thank you. Thank you for that

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Brian Averill: Uh Jonathan, you are next

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Jonathan Le: yeah, Jonathan Lee here of Venice Resident. I just wanted to point out again and re-emphasize that this issue

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Jonathan Le: of whether Pickleball should be allowed on the Pal Tennis courts. We've already had two extensive meetings, one with the land in use, and one with a Vnc. A larger Vnc. And there was an overwhelming vote

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Jonathan Le: to, and everyone agreed that pickleball should not be allowed on the Pal Tennis courts for a host of reasons, some of which you heard from some of the prior speakers today. So I just want to focus people in on that, because it seems like we're moving backwards

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Jonathan Le: at this point, and not focusing on the issue here, which is, how do we get these courts over the finish line? Um! And so i'd appreciate it. If Ah, Fred, one just respected and acknowledged the fact that you know there were extensive hearing about this already.

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Jim Robb: Pretty much. We will try to figure out the budget part. Steve.

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Steve: Hi! I'm just unmuted. This is Steve Gum. Hello, Paddle tennis player and I've been working with Larry and others to

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Steve: get things going with the Uh.

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Steve: With the Vnc.

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Steve: My first point is that

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Steve: we took it to the vote with the Venice Neighborhood Council Board, and they overwhelmingly voted to prohibit pickleball in the future. So we want to work with the city on how we can get that done.

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Steve: Ah, how ah! Our community's voice can ah be heard and get that done. We do have a community that's fifty nine years old down there,

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Steve: and you know there's a way of playing where you you play on to the next court, and it's like pick up basketball kind of so

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Steve: the idea to have K. Asks monitoring everything. Ah, you know that's the kind of thing we need to be speaking with the the parts and wreck about, because that just really wouldn't work just like having a kiosk

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Steve: at the basketball courts wouldn't work, so we need to be communicating with them. We need to have signs up that say no pickle ball, so that pickleballers aren't coming down, causing conflict and being confused. They don't even know whether they're supposed to play there or not,

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Steve: and so there's a lot of confusion going on that we can solve by working with parks and wreck, and I know they're very busy, and they've They've tried to cooperate with us, but we really just need to be able to sit down with them and move forward on how to keep pickle ball

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Steve: from being on the courts, and also how to work on this construction issue.

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Jim Robb: Thank you, Steve.

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Jim Robb: All right, so that one more, Jim, we got more on Murphy. Go for it, tunnel.

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Thomas Murphy: Ah, hi! There! I'm a relatively new person to this. And I think i'm directing this specifically to Evelyn and Brian because they they I don't think there I don't think people understand the sort of ubiquity that Ah Pickle Ball has

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Thomas Murphy: the country, and certainly in the city of Los Angeles there are over five hundred and twenty

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Thomas Murphy: tennis courts in the city of Los Angeles that have a minimum of four

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Thomas Murphy: courts. That's over two thousand tennis courts

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Thomas Murphy: that can. People could play pickled lawn. We have eleven quarts. That's the first thing. There's a second thing which I read which where's my phone

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Thomas Murphy: sitting here with my significant other, and I think it's. I think it's significant to to the both of you to hear what the United States Pickleball Association has said about their sport. Okay, we're only fighting for eleven courts. They have

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Thomas Murphy: tens of thousands across the country. And this is a quote from the United States Pickleball Association. As long as you have a heart surface you can play pickleball anywhere.

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Thomas Murphy: It has been played

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Thomas Murphy: on gym floors, concrete asphalt uh tennis courts and in neighborhoods, even on streets. Okay,

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Thomas Murphy: I the last thing in the world I want to project is that we're trying to be selfish about what we do, this sport in this city on those courts, the historic value of them.

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Thomas Murphy: It is, it is a it is a a What's the word i'm looking for? It is a compliment to the city of Venice, the type of people, the kind of people the sharing of people

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Jim Robb: drop it up.

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Jim Robb: That's it. I mean very much that you should be proud of the paddle. More courts should be I I I love them colleen. Go ahead.

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Jim Robb: Yeah. So i'm sorry. I'm just confused. I don't know what we're talking about. If this was voted well already voted at the V. And C. Board. So why is it back up at the committee, if it's already been pushed, that there's not going to be any more that it's just going to be paddled.

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Jim Robb: There were There were two votes that Larry had the to every land Use Committee

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Jim Robb: do. We voted on one which was to make the power of all Courts Day Paddle ball course. This one was more about the financing of dancing, the hardware, the seats all the best.

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Jim Robb: Okay, that Wasn't made clear on the agenda, and when Larry was telling the stuff I thought there was still some kind of competition between both of them. So this was common.

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Jim Robb: Yeah. So we should

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Nick Antonicello: just a couple of things. The reason we're having this meeting tonight is because the Vnc. Referred this issue to the outreach to the ocean from walking it.

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Nick Antonicello: For whatever reason Will Peck decided to hear the case.

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Nick Antonicello: They asked us as a committee to be part of it, and we're not able to have our members there. I was on the call, but this thing was done quite frankly as backward. And this is why you're here.

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Nick Antonicello: This was not done correctly from from the beginning.

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Nick Antonicello: The fact of the matter is that the ocean but Walk Committee has jurisdiction over what's on your front law,

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Nick Antonicello: and that's why we're here.

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Nick Antonicello: Who should be hearing this, and who should be helping

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Nick Antonicello: now as individuals? Larry, you know, and all his people certainly have the right to talk, to record parks and and schedule independent meetings with them. They don't need us to do that,

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Nick Antonicello: but what we can do as a committee is refer back to the V and the appropriate fashion that these people be heard,

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Nick Antonicello: that maybe part of the process moving forward. Now, the notion of these people appropriating money or private expenditures to do more work. That's a more complicated issue. It seems like

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Nick Antonicello: the city where he has the money. Apparently they have six hundred and twenty thousand dollars, and then it would say that the cost of this is about two hundred thousand. If you double so there's no need for money. The money's there,

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Nick Antonicello: the public at the public space, the money's there, I think The question now is to make sure that Larry and his people have access to Sonya, and that they be given the respect of being part of whatever's going to happen. Moving forward, we can make recommendations that you know what she's done.

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Nick Antonicello: The of all is concerned,

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Nick Antonicello: you know. I I don't see a reason why we need to expand, and there's money to expand and put pickleball for It's convent. That's great. But when I don't think one group should be fighting with another, these people been here forever. Let them get their eleven chords. Let's fix them in an appropriate fashion

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Nick Antonicello: and let's have them uh interact with.

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Thanks,

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Brian Averill: Jim. You're muted

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Jim Robb: that use the problem. Go ahead, Brian. What I said. She listened to what I said. Okay, so many everybody before I began.

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Brian Averill: Um, just quickly. This is going to be a question for Larry Larry. I didn't realize that you've been through the the ringer with the Vnc. And Rebecc already. So I apologize. I'm just catching up here as far as pickleball itself goes.

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Brian Averill: So the the short question is, What would you like us to do that? The V. And C. Has already not done for you.

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Brian Averill: A lot of people confuse this council. We don't legislate. All we can do is advise the city and their departments on what the community wants, so i'd love to hear from you in. You know, forty words or less What? Exactly we can ask the city for you.

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Jim Robb: Right? Go ahead, Larry.

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Larry Nagler: Well, I think you've done it in the following sense. If I heard Sonya correctly,

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Larry Nagler: she said that she will be with us, she will try to find a way to get the money to resurface the courts, and she will talk further with us about controlling and eliminating these problems with the pickleball players. So I think you have accomplished. If I understood her correctly,

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I think you've accomplished what I asked you to do,

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Larry Nagler: and i'm very excited about that possibility. So if Sonia can confirm that, what I said is so I think that you've done a great job for us.

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Jim Robb: Oh, yeah, we're gonna let you come in. Now go ahead.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: Thank you. Um. So. Yes, Pickleball. I I've already told you guys where I stand on that I as of right now. I'm Still, you know the Tuesday Thursday that they had for me before I was there? I was going to honor that, but no new permits, no pickleball permanent lines. All that stuff. That's what I end up and read to

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Sonya Young Jimenez: as far as the money, So the money that it was allocated already is allocated for the fencing. I know you guys think it's not a

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Sonya Young Jimenez: so much money, but that's what they are giving the people for the offencing projects. So that would be a discussion with our planning and construction team on how they do contracts, but that's already a done deal, so we can look to see where other money is, I don't know where other from the funds there are

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Sonya Young Jimenez: in our area, or what other money we can look for. But i'm willing to work with Larry to see what that is for your community or private, or how we want to go about doing the next phase for the

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Jim Robb: beautiful.

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Jim Robb: Okay. So thank you, Sonia Nick, Go ahead. And then, Brian, if we need what we're real quick,

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Nick Antonicello: so the public can attend them or these meetings. These are internal meetings of the reconciled.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: What meetings are you referring to, Nick?

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Nick Antonicello: Uh, like you just said, Now you're gonna have a meeting with your construction team, for example.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: Well, Larry said. He wants to meet with us. I'm not the person that handles these contracts. We have a planning and construction division that handles contracts, so I think they should be involved in the conversation, so I don't know how they come about this, but we say we need a project. Then they send it out to bid people did on the project, and then they award the product

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Jim Robb: so quickly. Real quick, Nick, I know Bob used to do meetings, Sonya, to do meetings? No, no. Well, I used to go to those meetings, So did you Do me Go ahead. Take my point

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Nick Antonicello: that I guess if there are public meetings internally about all this, all of this going on in terms of Federal improvement. I think the best thing that so many can do is get in touch with Larry, and make sure that he's aware of any public meeting regarding any construction down at.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: I was saying, we should have a private meeting with our construction and planning team, with Larry and our city attorney to discuss what we want to do. Moving forward.

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Nick Antonicello: That's That's right.

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Thank you.

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Jim Robb: We had. We had a public comment already, guys, So there's no more public comment. I'll let Larry speak again. Go ahead. No?

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Noel Johnston: Well, I I I just want to mention to you you. You seem to bring it up, Jim. I want to mention to Sonya that we used to have a ah a meeting that was Ah! An ocean furniture, walk, slash, rap meeting.

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Noel Johnston: It was very helpful because beaches and harbors was invited to it. It wasn't just city. It was a lot of the police were invited to it.

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Noel Johnston: They really anybody that wanted to show up along motion for a walk was invited to it. It was not a political meeting at all. It was an information meeting. It was to get out information, not to um a a meeting like this for your boy scribes to make motions. There were no motions made. It was informative,

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Noel Johnston: and it was ah held for years, and it stopped pretty much with Covid, and it would be wonderful to have it back, because I think it would keep the ah ah residents and the businesses on an ocean front walk

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Noel Johnston: informed about what's going on with all of the city

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Noel Johnston: entities on ocean farwalk. You know the police. Ah, the economy! And it was great to have the county. We, you know we we? Ah, we don't have contact with the party, and that's too bad. And in any case that's all. I just said It' be great to have that

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Jim Robb: go ahead. You got anything else.

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Jim Robb: Okay, Adam. We already had public comment, Dude.

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Jim Robb: Not a public comment.

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Jim Robb: Yeah, it was not a It's not a public comment. I was just gonna ask for you to clarify what Sonya just said um, and asked her to honor the law and not some made up agreement that she admitted. She wasn't aware that it happened before she got there, and no one in our committee is aware that me or some just ask me to clarify that specific

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Jim Robb: comment that she made about her not honoring the land use of law versus an agreement that has no one has any idea. It was made in the first, I think. Well, we we agree that she would be meeting with you guys, and you guys could discuss that on a later basis unless she wants to say something. Now I don't know where she's at,

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Jim Robb: and i'm

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Sonya Young Jimenez: i'm a discuss with my attorneys. So thank you.

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Jim Robb: I wanted this to be a meeting, so we all could get something accomplished together, you know.

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Jim Robb: Ah,

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Jim Robb: hopefully, we can have a meeting with Larry and Sonya and um go from there, Brian, do you have anything to say? Should we work on a motion?

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Brian Averill: I just wanted to circle back with Larry one more time because he's done a great job representing all the folks on this call, just to make sure he feels a little more comfortable than he did two hours ago about what's going on.

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Larry.

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Jim Robb: Um, Can you hear me? Yeah, Okay, I I I feel much better. I feel much better. I think there's been clarification on a lot of the issues that were hazy. And and the the main thing is that she's going to meet with us, and she's going to work with us to accomplish all of the things we've discussed. So that is a huge

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Larry Nagler: get, as far as i'm concerned, for the community, and we'll try to work out through these these nodding problems as best we can. I mean, let me say this: I think this is from your standpoint as the committee. You know. They removed the bleachers during the pandemic.

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Larry Nagler: We have to get those back so people can sit and watch these wonderful matches. They've removed the benches. Now, during the work we've got to get new benches. It would be great if we have greenery. We will try to work with her and her help with.

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Larry Nagler: Have her help us with the finances, and we will try to help her with the finances, and the sooner the better. So I I I mean, you know um. Let's just say this: I'm: ninety to eight percent happy about everything that happened tonight.

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Jim Robb: And how can you? How can you ask for more than that? Right? Like ninety, eight. Okay, Okay, very good. And I think this working together as a team. And that's talking lawyers. And even though you're a lawyer, I think we can all figure it out. So, just working to approve the boardwalk, she is

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Jim Robb: very influential, and making it so. We can even walk down there from what we were last year. So she did a lot of good things and helped out with the homeless and all that. So it's a it's a relationship, and we're going to try to work with her, and we work with her.

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Jim Robb: The parks and wrecks right next to the ocean front. We're all part of the same team. So thank you very much, Nick. Go ahead.

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Nick Antonicello: The only time I wanted to make was

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Nick Antonicello: since Cd. Eleven has a new rep

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Nick Antonicello: with the uh title of people on and on.

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Jim Robb: Okay, that would be great. Louis, You want to speak for a second, and so do you go ahead.

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Louie Leiva (he/him): Uh, sure. Ah, I am actively listening, and was also first on. Ah! The more elaborate conversation about this that happened last week. Sonya and I are in close contact with each other. We talk

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Louie Leiva (he/him): on a weekly basis on multiple occasions, so i'm definitely on board to be able to join you all for that meeting. And again I I hear your voices, and um i'm willing to advocate for the masses. So uh definitely count me in to send a calendar. Invite them there.

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Jim Robb: Thanks for attending Louis. Go ahead, Sonya.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: Oh, yeah, of course we'll add in that Cd. Eleven and I I don't know to know, else point it'd be great to have the meeting come back. I, you guys know, if you invite me, i'll be there. I'm i'm here at Disney, not today, so i'll jump on wherever Um. But um, yeah, I think it's important to like to spell some of the rumors before they start best, because I feel like a lot of this went a little too far. Um! And we could have like fixed it earlier. So yeah, if you guys had those meetings again, I i'd love to get up on this.

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Jim Robb: I'm thinking we're all gonna We're all gonna work together. This sounds great, Brian. Do you think we need a motion on this?

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Brian Averill: I do not.

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Jim Robb: Okay, What do we got left on the agenda, Brian?

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Brian Averill: We are done with the P. Of all courts. We can do board comment which we neglected to put on the agenda if you'd like. But that's it.

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Jim Robb: Okay. So if anyone has anything any board members have any non-agendized comments, we can do that now, or else we can adjourn.

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Jim Robb: Go early about eleven o'clock at night.

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Jim Robb: I think you're all amazing. Okay,

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evelynsaro: just a quick thing. Ah, to Sonya's point about the Ah Ocean Front Walk Task Force meeting, I would like to say there was a organized by for a walk. They were, Excuse me, not ocean for recreation of parks. They were the one that set it up. They

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Noel Johnston: bothered to get us find It's a a room. We could do it on. Zoom. Of course, now it'd be fine, but it was absolutely organized by recreation at Parks for the last, I think, three years.

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evelynsaro: Yeah, picture and Victor and Bob

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Noel Johnston: certainly would think about that, and i'm sure that Colleen and I would both be happy to work with her on it.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: Oh, no problem. I didn't know. It was us. Okay, that's cool.

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Jim Robb: That's the massive.

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Jim Robb: All right, Nick. Close it out. And then I think we're gonna jurors.

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Nick Antonicello: Yeah, the only I wanted to say was, Uh, I think it would be a good idea for the paddle wall people to have someone on our meetings moving forward, so they know what we're doing. And uh, I just wanted to thank sewing this for how thing is that? Hopefully she'll have good news for us on Saturday,

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Nick Antonicello: and with that i'll make a motion teacher.

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Brian Averill: Actually, I got one quick thing, Nick, before we do that.

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Brian Averill: I just wanted to let all you guys know that as a member of the Venice Surfing Association. We are organizing a contest at the breakwater next month.

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Brian Averill: We're still working on the permitting stuff with Cd. Eleven, and the clue. That's not official yet, but they're very well. Might be the stiff contests on October the fifteenth, at the breakwater.

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Jim Robb: I would like to thank everybody to join the call, I think, to my wonderful ocean front, walk, team, and sodium for all her work, and Larry for doing all that. I hope everybody's good. I have to watch the football. Bye.

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Sonya Young Jimenez: Thank you.

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Jim Robb: He needs adjourned.

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Brian Averill: Thank you, Sonya. Thank you. Everybody.