WEBVTT 1 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:11.370 jim murez: Oh. 2 00:07:18.810 --> 00:07:20.460 jim murez: Ivan if you want to up there you go. 3 00:07:49.980 --> 00:07:50.130 Helen Fallon: whoa. 4 00:08:03.210 --> 00:08:03.750 jim murez: Yes. 5 00:08:05.850 --> 00:08:14.640 Helen Fallon: Do you mind explaining to Jay that is okay or appropriate for somebody members to ask clarifying questions before a public policy. 6 00:08:15.660 --> 00:08:16.410 Helen Fallon: I don't I don't want to be. 7 00:08:16.440 --> 00:08:18.060 Helen Fallon: arguing with them again about that. 8 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:21.150 jim murez: I don't understand the question, what is your question say it again. 9 00:08:22.140 --> 00:08:29.340 Helen Fallon: last meeting Jay did not understand that it would be appropriate for committee members to ask clarifying questions. 10 00:08:30.780 --> 00:08:31.890 Helen Fallon: For public speakers. 11 00:08:34.980 --> 00:08:35.730 jim murez: i'm. 12 00:08:37.020 --> 00:08:37.590 Helen Fallon: Just good. 13 00:08:37.680 --> 00:08:37.920 jim murez: it's. 14 00:08:38.610 --> 00:08:45.450 jim murez: A proper procedure idea I think I think that what what his his his. 15 00:08:46.980 --> 00:08:59.250 jim murez: interpretation and I don't know that I disagree with it, is that each committee Member should have some amount of time to be able to ask questions, but you know I used to be accused. 16 00:09:00.270 --> 00:09:10.920 jim murez: By IRA of dominating the questions and yeah and I think what's happening is the perception is that you're dominating asking the questions. 17 00:09:11.370 --> 00:09:13.830 Helen Fallon: Whether the opportunity to ask. 18 00:09:13.830 --> 00:09:14.520 questions. 19 00:09:16.350 --> 00:09:17.700 Helen Fallon: Over last time. 20 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:21.870 jim murez: Whether or not you are or not is a whole nother. 21 00:09:22.170 --> 00:09:32.970 Helen Fallon: Well, and clarifying questions are different than the discussion because, how do you vote on something if you don't really understand what it is and the public, you know, wants to you know may have questions and maybe we're getting them answer for them. 22 00:09:34.920 --> 00:09:36.720 jim murez: Since they have. 23 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:38.130 Helen Fallon: A conversation with them. 24 00:09:38.340 --> 00:09:50.370 jim murez: jays here now i'm promoting him and I guess you know if you want to ask the question or I can, I think, clarifying questions are probably OK, but they you know if you can try and keep them brief i'm. 25 00:09:52.050 --> 00:09:52.920 jim murez: not trying to make it. 26 00:09:53.040 --> 00:10:05.040 jim murez: No, I understand, I think I think the part of the part of the issue, sometimes is is that people feel like statements are being made, rather than questions being asked, I know I feel that way quite frequently. 27 00:10:05.460 --> 00:10:19.050 jim murez: When when people start to speak, that that perhaps they're making a statement of their opinion, rather than a question that is you know pose like like a question where you. 28 00:10:19.290 --> 00:10:21.420 Helen Fallon: know I I don't disagree with that I. 29 00:10:21.420 --> 00:10:21.810 jim murez: mean that's. 30 00:10:21.870 --> 00:10:23.010 jim murez: It any. 31 00:10:23.880 --> 00:10:26.010 Helen Fallon: Questions a question it's not an editorial on. 32 00:10:27.300 --> 00:10:32.040 jim murez: hang on one second hang on one, second, I have to try and get everybody off line here. 33 00:10:33.330 --> 00:10:43.680 jim murez: Calling user number one if you're on the committee, please raise your hand if you're a member of the committee I don't know who calling user number one is we don't have a name for you. 34 00:10:57.660 --> 00:11:01.050 jim murez: yeah I have no idea calling user one is okay i'm. 35 00:11:02.700 --> 00:11:08.460 jim murez: Jay I believe you're here, and you were, I think I promoted you, yes, how many people are on the committee. 36 00:11:13.560 --> 00:11:15.630 jim murez: 604 we have a quorum. 37 00:11:38.790 --> 00:11:39.060 si. 38 00:11:41.910 --> 00:11:43.170 jim murez: si is here. 39 00:11:45.690 --> 00:11:47.040 jim murez: Promoting Sema now. 40 00:11:49.770 --> 00:11:50.730 jim murez: Where we still missing. 41 00:11:52.560 --> 00:11:53.340 jim murez: Oh daffodil. 42 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:59.970 jim murez: Let me text isn't happened is capital on this committee, yes, yes, what I thought. 43 00:12:01.530 --> 00:12:03.270 jim murez: let's see if she plans to attend. 44 00:12:30.870 --> 00:12:31.740 jay handal: So. 45 00:12:35.610 --> 00:12:37.020 jay handal: Tell me when you're ready guys. 46 00:12:37.680 --> 00:12:40.800 jim murez: I think we're ready I texted dap adobe. 47 00:12:41.370 --> 00:12:59.220 jay handal: Well, when she gets it she gets in at 603 we're going to start the meeting and we'll have roll call Jim and cj is here i've been there you go sorry cool so Jay is here, Jim is here Sema. 48 00:12:59.940 --> 00:13:00.660 jay handal: yeah. 49 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:02.580 Ivan: i've been yes. 50 00:13:02.610 --> 00:13:04.140 Helen Fallon: Helen your. 51 00:13:04.500 --> 00:13:05.100 daffodil. 52 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:13.470 jay handal: Okay, we have quantum quantum is three we have five, we have no me is to review again. 53 00:13:14.250 --> 00:13:18.000 Helen Fallon: Today, could you could you tell us why the me ours aren't available. 54 00:13:18.180 --> 00:13:23.310 jay handal: yeah it's actually in the treasurer's report, I sent for the board it's not available because. 55 00:13:24.690 --> 00:13:32.280 jay handal: The city is still reviewing receipts we send them receipts, they say they want more detail, we get in more detail, they say they want. 56 00:13:32.670 --> 00:13:49.590 jay handal: The copy of the credit cards to get them a copy of the credit card, they say they can't read it it's to faint so I have a meeting next Friday with holly walcott and the funding staff because I am fed up and i've had quite enough of the antics. 57 00:13:52.350 --> 00:13:56.430 Helen Fallon: We know what particular receipts they're involved in you. 58 00:13:56.520 --> 00:13:59.190 jay handal: To constant contact and one. 59 00:14:00.510 --> 00:14:01.980 jay handal: I forget what the other one was. 60 00:14:02.700 --> 00:14:03.780 Ivan: The camera equipment. 61 00:14:03.990 --> 00:14:06.480 jay handal: No, no, no that's a whole nother misha gas. 62 00:14:07.980 --> 00:14:09.480 jim murez: Is that is that still pending. 63 00:14:09.660 --> 00:14:23.790 jay handal: That still pending we've never gotten an answer on that and that's The other reason for the meeting next Friday yeah but there were there were three issues in two of them were constant contact and one of them was the organizer candidate and for $500. 64 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:25.500 jay handal: So. 65 00:14:26.670 --> 00:14:32.910 jay handal: Hopefully we get that resolved with holly and her staff so. 66 00:14:34.860 --> 00:14:37.080 jim murez: But lock it doesn't sound like fun. 67 00:14:37.350 --> 00:14:39.780 jay handal: No it's definitely not been fun trust me. 68 00:14:41.160 --> 00:14:46.680 jay handal: Item number six is the annual annual Greece screening so. 69 00:14:46.770 --> 00:14:53.460 jim murez: I somebody if anybody, other than me heard on the news that olivia Newton john passed away a cup that's. 70 00:14:53.460 --> 00:14:55.980 jay handal: Correct and we're not going to fund her funeral. 71 00:14:56.520 --> 00:14:56.880 know. 72 00:14:58.170 --> 00:14:58.590 jay handal: So. 73 00:15:00.180 --> 00:15:11.160 jay handal: So the The item is to ask for money for the Community screening, unfortunately, it has to be an npg because it's coming from the high school. 74 00:15:11.820 --> 00:15:26.730 jay handal: And the funding rules are that it has to be open and free to the public, and my understanding is, it is not free, it is a fundraiser and under no circumstances, we cannot fund this and big. 75 00:15:28.560 --> 00:15:33.660 jim murez: Is it only is it only a fundraiser or is it a suggested donation. 76 00:15:33.930 --> 00:15:34.590 jay handal: and 77 00:15:34.650 --> 00:15:36.120 Ivan: As far as I matter. 78 00:15:37.620 --> 00:15:43.680 jay handal: It has to be free to the public has to be open to everyone and free to the public, so. 79 00:15:45.030 --> 00:15:46.500 jim murez: i'll make the motion. 80 00:15:48.690 --> 00:15:53.550 jim murez: To approve the item we can seconded I guess and then. 81 00:15:55.170 --> 00:15:56.940 jim murez: Take a vote or take public comment. 82 00:15:58.470 --> 00:15:59.910 jim murez: Is that is that how you want to do it. 83 00:16:00.690 --> 00:16:02.790 jay handal: You can make the motion is there a second. 84 00:16:05.760 --> 00:16:07.200 Sima Kostovetsky: i'll second at Sema. 85 00:16:08.730 --> 00:16:10.860 jay handal: seconded by Sema okay just. 86 00:16:10.920 --> 00:16:11.460 jay handal: let's take. 87 00:16:11.520 --> 00:16:12.450 jay handal: A discussion. 88 00:16:13.830 --> 00:16:16.380 jay handal: And anyone wanted to discuss it it's on the committee. 89 00:16:16.800 --> 00:16:18.870 jim murez: Lisa redmen has her hand up. 90 00:16:19.470 --> 00:16:22.110 jay handal: She not on the committee i'm asking for committee first. 91 00:16:22.230 --> 00:16:26.550 jay handal: Okay anybody on the committee, want to have a discussion on this item. 92 00:16:27.300 --> 00:16:28.560 Sima Kostovetsky: have my hand raised. 93 00:16:29.010 --> 00:16:29.700 jay handal: Okay, go ahead. 94 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:31.080 jim murez: Sorry, I can't. 95 00:16:31.920 --> 00:16:44.370 Sima Kostovetsky: I just want to say that we have done this in the past, in fact, my first year and we supported them and we gave them $1,000 so I don't know how that. 96 00:16:44.790 --> 00:17:00.870 Sima Kostovetsky: was done, but it is run by their alumni association and we had a table there that same night we were one of the sponsors, it was right before the Venice high school went through their renovation. 97 00:17:01.680 --> 00:17:21.840 Sima Kostovetsky: I think that this is a wonderful opportunity for us yet again to support one of our schools, so I am coming from that approach, especially because historically, we have done so, so I would really like to investigate this further before we just completely say no. 98 00:17:23.700 --> 00:17:25.080 jay handal: anybody else on the committee. 99 00:17:27.360 --> 00:17:28.560 Helen Fallon: I have my hand up Jay. 100 00:17:29.100 --> 00:17:29.730 jay handal: Okay, good. 101 00:17:30.420 --> 00:17:41.280 Helen Fallon: um yeah I noticed that, on the application, they didn't mark, whether they were applying to other mcs I know, in the past they have applied to other mcs while they were simultaneously applying to the nc. 102 00:17:42.180 --> 00:17:54.630 Helen Fallon: So the applications and complete and also where's the 513 city, and I do believe it is a, it is a you know, a fundraising thing they're raising money so it's not a public event. 103 00:17:55.410 --> 00:17:59.940 jay handal: Right so anyone else on the committee before I make my comments. 104 00:18:00.450 --> 00:18:08.010 jim murez: um I will, I will just raise my hand briefly and say that that the wording that's here is exactly the wording that they submitted. 105 00:18:09.630 --> 00:18:17.910 jim murez: The wording in the motion, the wording in the agenda and and there are some some hands up by participants. 106 00:18:18.270 --> 00:18:22.200 jay handal: Okay, so Mike my comments are simple. 107 00:18:23.250 --> 00:18:25.140 jay handal: I have an email from. 108 00:18:26.730 --> 00:18:38.190 jay handal: The city clerk's office that if it is a fundraiser and people are paying and it's not free to the public, we cannot fund it whether you've done it before in the past, you can't do. 109 00:18:39.300 --> 00:18:51.180 jay handal: So that's number one number two then 990 form is out of date with the day have not filed their 990 forms for 21 to 22. 110 00:18:53.100 --> 00:18:54.150 jay handal: So that's an issue. 111 00:18:55.710 --> 00:18:57.990 jay handal: And the. 112 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:04.650 jay handal: last issue is this group voted at the last meeting. 113 00:19:05.730 --> 00:19:22.440 jay handal: Some strict guidelines as to giving money away and MP geez that included not accepting any requests before September one and only allowing a percentage of what we have to give to each organization. 114 00:19:23.550 --> 00:19:31.080 jay handal: And they're asking for 1000 out of 20 $500 so and they're asking for it before. 115 00:19:32.220 --> 00:19:33.510 jay handal: We can go ahead. 116 00:19:34.650 --> 00:19:40.050 jay handal: and see what other organizations want so all of that adding up, including. 117 00:19:41.190 --> 00:19:52.410 jay handal: What Helen said about the application being incomplete, for that reason I would vote no and not process this application. 118 00:19:53.610 --> 00:19:56.490 jay handal: let's go to public comment Jim I can see. 119 00:19:56.520 --> 00:20:01.410 jim murez: Public i'm Lisa redmond go ahead, your hand is up. 120 00:20:02.700 --> 00:20:10.230 Lisa Redmond: yeah I was gonna bring up the same exact issue that you had new guidelines about when you were going to fund, and when you were not um. 121 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:27.240 Lisa Redmond: So I was wondering what had happened to that, so I thought it was interesting that it was even there, but if, for that reason I would disagree alone i'm not I can't even argue the marriage because that's not the job here but it's just inappropriate for it to come at this time. 122 00:20:28.830 --> 00:20:31.230 Lisa Redmond: Thank based on what you decided previously. 123 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:33.270 jim murez: Thank you, there are no other handshake. 124 00:20:33.990 --> 00:20:36.060 jay handal: Okay, if there's no other hands. 125 00:20:37.260 --> 00:20:40.590 jim murez: see my soul has her hand up i'm not sure if that was left over from before. 126 00:20:43.560 --> 00:20:45.180 Sima Kostovetsky: You might Mike did you start down. 127 00:20:45.570 --> 00:20:49.980 jay handal: Oh, thank you Okay, so that being the case, we will then go ahead to a vote. 128 00:20:53.670 --> 00:20:57.000 jay handal: All those who are in well Jimmy can put up the voting thing. 129 00:20:57.600 --> 00:20:59.130 jim murez: Second, I gotta reshare there. 130 00:21:05.670 --> 00:21:06.270 jim murez: Okay. 131 00:21:07.710 --> 00:21:08.730 jay handal: So I both know. 132 00:21:11.700 --> 00:21:14.670 jim murez: I both know capitals not here Sema. 133 00:21:20.790 --> 00:21:21.540 jim murez: Are you voting. 134 00:21:27.660 --> 00:21:28.110 jim murez: Helen. 135 00:21:30.330 --> 00:21:31.740 jim murez: see my last chance. 136 00:21:35.610 --> 00:21:37.740 Sima Kostovetsky: i'm muting myself, can you guys hear him oh there we go. 137 00:21:37.860 --> 00:21:39.420 Sima Kostovetsky: Okay, yes. 138 00:21:39.660 --> 00:21:40.710 jim murez: Are you vote yes or no. 139 00:21:41.070 --> 00:21:42.750 jim murez: Yes, okay. 140 00:21:42.840 --> 00:21:51.030 jay handal: Okay, one yes or no, it fails Item number seven outreach candidates events. 141 00:21:52.770 --> 00:22:09.450 jay handal: This is a motion to allocate up to 30 $500 for up to three candidate events that would be may oral CD 11 and county board of supervisors money would be spent for advertising and promotion. 142 00:22:12.360 --> 00:22:26.970 jay handal: The only thing I would say is in this in the description, there is a reference to Venice and one of the committee members, Nick Anthony Kelly. 143 00:22:27.930 --> 00:22:39.570 jay handal: And writes for yo Venice and that's a conflict of interest so yo Venice would not be according to what i'm told by the city able to receive any funds. 144 00:22:40.470 --> 00:22:44.160 jim murez: Jerry Can I make the motion get it seconded and then let's discuss this. 145 00:22:44.490 --> 00:22:48.630 jim murez: Sure okay so i'll go ahead and make the motion anybody want a second. 146 00:22:49.110 --> 00:22:50.310 Sima Kostovetsky: i'll second at Sema. 147 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:55.620 jim murez: Thank you Sema so i'm gonna have my see Helen has hers up to. 148 00:22:55.860 --> 00:22:57.900 jay handal: Is there board discussion. 149 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:01.770 jim murez: I have my hand up. 150 00:23:02.460 --> 00:23:04.350 jay handal: I can't see any hands so Jim. 151 00:23:04.380 --> 00:23:08.460 jim murez: Go ahead and then you say Okay, I was just going to say that. 152 00:23:09.660 --> 00:23:17.790 jim murez: Nick is on the outreach committee, so if if he voted on this item in the outreach committee that would be a problem. 153 00:23:18.090 --> 00:23:18.870 jay handal: Because it is. 154 00:23:19.170 --> 00:23:24.000 jim murez: Dennis but, but in the Budget Committee it's not a problem and he's not on the board. 155 00:23:24.420 --> 00:23:28.290 jay handal: Correct correct he did vote on it at the outreach committee. 156 00:23:29.460 --> 00:23:32.160 jay handal: And my discussion with the city clerk. 157 00:23:33.420 --> 00:23:35.340 jay handal: Today is that. 158 00:23:36.780 --> 00:23:39.720 jay handal: yo Venice would have to be removed from the motion. 159 00:23:41.670 --> 00:23:42.180 jim murez: Okay. 160 00:23:43.260 --> 00:23:46.650 jim murez: But it's actually not part of the motion it's just the description. 161 00:23:47.220 --> 00:23:47.460 Now. 162 00:23:49.410 --> 00:23:49.950 jay handal: So it's. 163 00:23:50.070 --> 00:23:58.200 jay handal: it's it's, not even a motion but it's in the description so would have to be made very clear that yo Venice cannot receive funding. 164 00:23:59.580 --> 00:24:00.240 jim murez: uh huh. 165 00:24:02.520 --> 00:24:03.060 jay handal: So. 166 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:05.550 jay handal: Who was the second person. 167 00:24:06.180 --> 00:24:07.290 jim murez: Helen had her hand up. 168 00:24:12.360 --> 00:24:14.250 jim murez: Helen you have to unmute if you want to speak. 169 00:24:15.750 --> 00:24:23.070 Helen Fallon: And I was unmuted um there's also another conflict of interest there seven numbers on that committee to were absent, so there were five present. 170 00:24:23.460 --> 00:24:32.310 Helen Fallon: and out of the to present one works for the West side current one one works for you, oh Venice, so they didn't even have a quorum so passes motion. 171 00:24:34.530 --> 00:24:36.480 Helen Fallon: Those people should have recuse themselves. 172 00:24:37.350 --> 00:24:47.130 Sima Kostovetsky: Once again Helen is speaking without having all the information Angela who writes for the West side current or used to write for the West side current wasn't at the meeting. 173 00:24:47.460 --> 00:24:49.680 Helen Fallon: And we have a section was enough. 174 00:24:50.010 --> 00:25:03.120 Sima Kostovetsky: Right, but we had quorum so she was not a part of this vote number one number two as Jay said this clarification came after his conversation I mean after my outreach meeting and came today. 175 00:25:03.570 --> 00:25:09.180 Sima Kostovetsky: So obviously we did not know that I have personally had conversations with Nick. 176 00:25:09.930 --> 00:25:17.340 Sima Kostovetsky: alluding to the fact that, once the campaign, you know starts, and we have something to do with it, that he needs to stay out of that. 177 00:25:17.700 --> 00:25:33.480 Sima Kostovetsky: Out of journalistic integrity, so that is my question J for you, is it possible, if Nick stays on outreach but does not right for your Venice during that time period or it's just we just can't advertise with that period. 178 00:25:34.560 --> 00:25:43.200 jay handal: He cannot be associated with the event, so he needs to have to show us that he resigned as a writer, or whatever. 179 00:25:44.850 --> 00:26:01.710 jay handal: But, as of now it's a conflict of interest, so I can't even I don't want to address moving forward if he's not part of it, you know if he's not party to Venice that's a different story down the line, but currently with this motion in this money he. 180 00:26:02.910 --> 00:26:05.670 jay handal: cannot be yo Venice cannot be a part of it. 181 00:26:06.510 --> 00:26:08.040 Helen Fallon: And I like to finish what I was. 182 00:26:08.040 --> 00:26:08.760 Helen Fallon: Saying it's. 183 00:26:09.090 --> 00:26:18.210 Helen Fallon: Go ahead holiday who writes for the West side current i've seen her articles in there, so she had a problem that she's on your committee, and she voted for this should have refused. 184 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:20.970 jim murez: Jay let me ask a quick question. 185 00:26:22.140 --> 00:26:22.920 jim murez: If. 186 00:26:26.220 --> 00:26:31.800 jim murez: If if Nick was to resign from the committee or if Sema was to. 187 00:26:33.660 --> 00:26:40.800 jim murez: Have him depart from the committee or if if he didn't participate in items having to do with. 188 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:50.340 jim murez: Funding anything for your business would it in there is if he had recused himself from inside of would it have been been a problem. 189 00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.460 jay handal: It wouldn't have been a problem if he recused himself. 190 00:26:53.700 --> 00:26:56.310 Helen Fallon: I see And what about vicki Jim. 191 00:26:57.690 --> 00:26:59.640 jim murez: Is vicki on the outreach committee. 192 00:27:00.180 --> 00:27:00.690 Yes. 193 00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:02.340 jim murez: She. 194 00:27:02.520 --> 00:27:03.720 jim murez: Was vicki at the meeting. 195 00:27:03.870 --> 00:27:05.100 jay handal: Yes, holy. 196 00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:11.520 Sima Kostovetsky: moly was at the meeting but she's my communications chair and I haven't seen now. 197 00:27:11.760 --> 00:27:12.570 jay handal: I now. 198 00:27:13.110 --> 00:27:16.860 Sima Kostovetsky: know that vicki writes for the West side current i've never seen her by line. 199 00:27:17.430 --> 00:27:18.030 Helen Fallon: By line. 200 00:27:18.390 --> 00:27:19.440 jim murez: yeah I just. 201 00:27:20.970 --> 00:27:23.130 Helen Fallon: Recently, she writes real estate articles. 202 00:27:23.430 --> 00:27:26.910 jim murez: yeah I read a real estate article this week was that. 203 00:27:27.540 --> 00:27:35.790 jay handal: So guys let's do this if you want, we have two choices, here we can eliminate yo Venice and West side current for now. 204 00:27:36.780 --> 00:27:59.070 jay handal: and leave the instructions that can be the organizer Venice living and social media or whatever other promotions, provided it does not include anybody on that committee or we can post bonus motion until it goes back to committee with a quorum for a new vote with recusals. 205 00:28:00.780 --> 00:28:02.100 Helen Fallon: I moved to postpone. 206 00:28:05.100 --> 00:28:05.700 jim murez: Who is that. 207 00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:10.680 jay handal: How on that was Helen do I have a second to the move to postpone. 208 00:28:12.990 --> 00:28:15.330 jim murez: All seconded, but I would like to discuss them. 209 00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:16.230 jay handal: yeah well. 210 00:28:16.320 --> 00:28:17.010 Every motion. 211 00:28:18.210 --> 00:28:18.540 jim murez: yeah. 212 00:28:18.600 --> 00:28:19.890 jay handal: Okay, so Jim go ahead. 213 00:28:20.520 --> 00:28:27.090 jim murez: If we accept it today without the yo Venice and the West side current. 214 00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:40.950 jim murez: Could the committee go back and hold a meeting that would then rectify the situation by having the two people that were aware of. 215 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:56.490 jim murez: recuse themselves and then pass a motion to then include them into part of the request for 30 $500 there was could we could we get a partially okayed and then finish the rest of it later, once they redo it. 216 00:28:56.940 --> 00:29:01.470 jay handal: So here's my question to see how many people are on your committee. 217 00:29:02.730 --> 00:29:03.210 Sima Kostovetsky: I. 218 00:29:04.890 --> 00:29:15.120 Sima Kostovetsky: i'm sorry, can you, yes, you can hear me Okay, so there is myself Nick Angela Christina Brian Christopher Lee. 219 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:17.640 Sima Kostovetsky: So there and Angela. 220 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:19.830 jay handal: says seven people on the committee. 221 00:29:19.860 --> 00:29:21.210 Sima Kostovetsky: Seven people on the committee. 222 00:29:21.300 --> 00:29:23.190 jay handal: How many were at the meeting and voting. 223 00:29:23.430 --> 00:29:24.120 Sima Kostovetsky: Wait oh. 224 00:29:24.540 --> 00:29:30.120 jim murez: Jay hang on one second there's a bit of confusion that is vicki on the committee, yes or no. 225 00:29:30.150 --> 00:29:32.070 Sima Kostovetsky: vicki is on that committee. 226 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:34.290 jim murez: So you didn't mention vicki okay. 227 00:29:34.350 --> 00:29:35.070 Sima Kostovetsky: So i'm sorry. 228 00:29:35.370 --> 00:29:44.910 Sima Kostovetsky: So Nikki Angela Nick Christopher Lee Brian Avril myself and Christina so that's seven people total. 229 00:29:45.840 --> 00:29:49.110 jay handal: And, and how many people were at the meeting voting. 230 00:29:49.500 --> 00:29:53.460 jay handal: Five and how many people needed to recuse themselves. 231 00:29:53.490 --> 00:29:56.850 Sima Kostovetsky: Well, given this information I to. 232 00:29:57.660 --> 00:30:02.070 jay handal: So that would mean that there were only three people eligible to vote. 233 00:30:03.330 --> 00:30:04.350 Ivan: that's not quorum. 234 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:05.940 jay handal: And that's not quorum. 235 00:30:05.970 --> 00:30:08.730 jim murez: So how many people were at that meeting. 236 00:30:09.330 --> 00:30:13.230 jim murez: Five five were at the meeting, so what is quantum for five. 237 00:30:13.830 --> 00:30:14.310 Sima Kostovetsky: No, but what. 238 00:30:17.130 --> 00:30:18.180 Sima Kostovetsky: stem cells. 239 00:30:19.980 --> 00:30:21.750 jim murez: entire committee, even though they have absentees. 240 00:30:21.840 --> 00:30:24.060 jay handal: yeah you can't have a floating quorum. 241 00:30:24.270 --> 00:30:26.100 jay handal: That the brown act. 242 00:30:26.670 --> 00:30:32.130 Sima Kostovetsky: Like so so Jay to that point, given that we have this information now. 243 00:30:33.210 --> 00:30:33.690 Sima Kostovetsky: I. 244 00:30:33.930 --> 00:30:48.240 Sima Kostovetsky: mean personally I don't want to strike this whole you know 100% because we're going to run out of time, right now, if the city wants 30 days, and if they want to back i'm running out of options to try to do a service to the community. 245 00:30:48.540 --> 00:30:49.320 Sima Kostovetsky: Right so. 246 00:30:49.560 --> 00:30:57.120 Sima Kostovetsky: If we take out West side, current and yo Venice and then the motion right here, at least, I have a chance. 247 00:30:58.020 --> 00:31:06.000 jay handal: So here's my take on it, the committee is only wreck recommending this to the board. 248 00:31:07.260 --> 00:31:12.930 jay handal: The it's now at the Budget Committee from a money standpoint only. 249 00:31:15.900 --> 00:31:18.330 jay handal: I would suggest that we. 250 00:31:20.790 --> 00:31:25.350 jay handal: Look at this from the money point of view, only at this point. 251 00:31:29.040 --> 00:31:34.710 jay handal: We are charges to save we can allocate the money or not okay it's not to approve. 252 00:31:36.060 --> 00:31:41.820 jay handal: The event itself that's not our job we don't do substance we do financial. 253 00:31:43.410 --> 00:31:51.600 jay handal: admin can decide that the event should go on or add calm whatever you guys call it can decide the eventual goal on. 254 00:31:52.260 --> 00:32:01.050 jay handal: Our only job is to decide, should the money be allocated so the fact that everybody on the committee have proved it, even though two people shouldn't have. 255 00:32:01.860 --> 00:32:12.120 jay handal: You know there's 100 reasons why i've seen committees at city council have one person there and they send it to counsel, with no recommendation. 256 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:22.380 jay handal: So we can we can do, one or two things we can bounce this back to seem as committee or we can have. 257 00:32:23.460 --> 00:32:24.900 jay handal: We can approve it. 258 00:32:26.070 --> 00:32:40.020 jay handal: Without you know with a recommendation at westside current and you'll Venice be eliminated from the marketing plan and let add calm decided to put it forward to the board in that way. 259 00:32:41.490 --> 00:32:41.700 jay handal: Is. 260 00:32:41.790 --> 00:32:58.740 jim murez: It you should actually just eliminate everything after advertising is where it says to include just take out the to include with all the rest of the names and leave it leave it simple and just say social media promotion and media advertising period. 261 00:33:00.750 --> 00:33:05.370 Ivan: But it's not a specific specifically exclude those two entities. 262 00:33:05.730 --> 00:33:11.700 jay handal: Right right, it has 32 entities, because of the conflict of interest so. 263 00:33:12.390 --> 00:33:19.860 Helen Fallon: Also Jay doesn't say you have to be very specific with outreach emotions just saying you're doing media advertising is pretty vague. 264 00:33:20.850 --> 00:33:30.600 Helen Fallon: No specifics as to where you're doing it, or what it is, and I think this notion needs to be tightened up anyway, because you don't know whether these are print ads or email blasts or what. 265 00:33:30.870 --> 00:33:32.190 jay handal: No, you have organized. 266 00:33:32.340 --> 00:33:34.170 Helen Fallon: And you have Venice Argonauts not. 267 00:33:34.170 --> 00:33:37.770 Helen Fallon: print that's not what we've been purchasing and the pastor outreach so people. 268 00:33:40.590 --> 00:33:42.960 Sima Kostovetsky: haven't done print, this is all digital. 269 00:33:43.320 --> 00:33:45.600 Helen Fallon: Right, but so make that clear, I mean. 270 00:33:46.380 --> 00:33:59.700 jay handal: guys guys it doesn't it doesn't have to state exactly what the publication is going to do you have to state who the publication is that you're going to contract with. 271 00:34:00.390 --> 00:34:03.420 Helen Fallon: supposed to be stating what you're purchasing excuse me. 272 00:34:03.510 --> 00:34:06.060 jay handal: And you're purchasing advertising from the argument. 273 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:07.650 jim murez: So no. 274 00:34:08.070 --> 00:34:10.770 jay handal: that's not an issue so guys yeah. 275 00:34:11.130 --> 00:34:15.480 Helen Fallon: Why, why would we be voting, why would we approve spending this much money when we're down to half as. 276 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:16.530 jay handal: Many what. 277 00:34:17.490 --> 00:34:19.350 Helen Fallon: It sounds like Haitians and one of them is. 278 00:34:19.470 --> 00:34:20.340 Helen Fallon: That is living. 279 00:34:20.580 --> 00:34:22.200 Helen Fallon: Which is a real estate magazine. 280 00:34:22.230 --> 00:34:26.490 jay handal: It says up to only up to him so. 281 00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:27.600 well. 282 00:34:28.770 --> 00:34:32.130 Helen Fallon: We have a motion to postpone it send it back to committee so that's what we should. 283 00:34:32.790 --> 00:34:33.840 Sima Kostovetsky: Have a second on that. 284 00:34:34.230 --> 00:34:35.400 Helen Fallon: yeah it was a second. 285 00:34:35.640 --> 00:34:38.220 jim murez: We happen to that I did second it. 286 00:34:38.430 --> 00:34:40.050 jay handal: yeah we do have a second so. 287 00:34:41.430 --> 00:34:42.750 jim murez: Let me ask you a quick question. 288 00:34:43.050 --> 00:34:43.440 jay handal: yeah so. 289 00:34:44.610 --> 00:34:45.450 jim murez: If if. 290 00:34:47.310 --> 00:34:52.680 jim murez: The the outreach Committee was to have a meeting between now and next Tuesday. 291 00:34:53.760 --> 00:35:02.100 jim murez: That was done without the two people there was of the two people recuse themselves, but they just didn't come to the meeting. 292 00:35:03.270 --> 00:35:13.110 jim murez: And they were to put in their support for names with that suffice, can we push it forward with just the two names now let them have another meeting in the next five days. 293 00:35:13.410 --> 00:35:20.220 jay handal: Well, like like I said, I think, from a financial point of view, we can push it, we can vote it up or down. 294 00:35:20.580 --> 00:35:21.450 jim murez: Okay hey. 295 00:35:22.710 --> 00:35:31.260 jay handal: After that i'm only concerned with compliance and money understood so whatever outreach did, however, they did it right or wrong. 296 00:35:31.680 --> 00:35:40.830 jay handal: You know, typically what they'll tell you in the city attorney's office is you know if someone's supposed to recuse themselves that's a decision, they make. 297 00:35:41.460 --> 00:35:50.220 jay handal: And if people don't like the decision, they make, then they file a complaint Okay, but there's nobody on the board, including the Chair. 298 00:35:50.670 --> 00:36:00.240 jay handal: And there's nobody on a committee, including a chair, who can dictate someone has to recuse themselves Okay, the law is clear. 299 00:36:00.750 --> 00:36:07.890 jay handal: If you don't recuse yourself and a stakeholder files a complaint, then it goes through the process of a complaint. 300 00:36:08.790 --> 00:36:13.560 jay handal: In the meantime, I would look at this as opposed to the outreach committee recommends. 301 00:36:14.100 --> 00:36:33.720 jay handal: I would say that the Budget Committee recommends to the board to authorize up to 30 $500 for the promotion and outreach have up to three candidates events, excluding yo Venice and West side con that would be the Amended motion to move it forward if we're trying to move it forward. 302 00:36:35.040 --> 00:36:53.130 jay handal: And we can vote on it, because we have a quorum outreach may not have had a quorum and they may have voted out of turn but it's clear that, in the spirit of their vote, they all voted yes, so that shouldn't preclude the Community from being able to have. 303 00:36:53.610 --> 00:37:04.200 jay handal: An event to meet the candidates who are going to be the future good or bad of our city so i'm gonna we'll we'll do the postpone first. 304 00:37:05.640 --> 00:37:11.250 jay handal: And then we'll come back if it's not postpone to a vote, based on what I just said. 305 00:37:11.580 --> 00:37:13.800 jim murez: And there is one hand in public comment. 306 00:37:14.250 --> 00:37:15.600 jay handal: Okay we'll take that now. 307 00:37:16.380 --> 00:37:17.670 jim murez: Lisa redmond go ahead. 308 00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:21.390 jim murez: Now there's two hands i'm sorry. 309 00:37:23.130 --> 00:37:25.080 Ivan: i've had my hand up for a while here. 310 00:37:25.560 --> 00:37:27.600 jay handal: hold on Ivan let's get the public will come. 311 00:37:27.600 --> 00:37:28.710 Ivan: Back finally. 312 00:37:29.610 --> 00:37:31.800 Lisa Redmond: What a motion and my voting on the rich. 313 00:37:32.220 --> 00:37:34.290 Ivan: Discussing the original emotion or phone. 314 00:37:35.070 --> 00:37:36.120 jay handal: Calls phone only. 315 00:37:36.660 --> 00:37:48.780 Lisa Redmond: um I think it does need to be postponed, I don't think recusal should be personal choices, especially when it is involving a financial decision I think it's important for. 316 00:37:49.530 --> 00:37:55.590 Lisa Redmond: People to point out like hey you work for that publication, it would be wrong for you to vote on this. 317 00:37:55.950 --> 00:38:07.470 Lisa Redmond: Because, then it ultimately somebody might complain and it gets voided as this happening here, so I think this should not be a valid motion, it should be postponed until. 318 00:38:07.770 --> 00:38:15.420 Lisa Redmond: outreach can figure out how to do it correctly and, by the way, vicki even had a story published the day the boat was taken by the West side current. 319 00:38:15.660 --> 00:38:19.020 jay handal: Thank you, and next next Community person. 320 00:38:19.110 --> 00:38:23.250 jim murez: i'm Robin has her hand up Robin go ahead you're unmuted. 321 00:38:24.270 --> 00:38:35.850 robin: hi i'm so sorry I came in the meeting to a couple minutes ago, and I just want to say that I think that this and and I don't know what you did on the prior one, but every. 322 00:38:36.870 --> 00:38:45.450 robin: Request for fun needs to have some kind of documentation as to where. 323 00:38:46.470 --> 00:38:50.430 robin: The request is whether it's based on there should be an invoice. 324 00:38:51.780 --> 00:38:55.470 jim murez: it's off topic Robin we're just talking about we're not to postpone you. 325 00:38:56.370 --> 00:39:00.360 robin: know because this says they're requesting up to 30 $500. 326 00:39:00.450 --> 00:39:06.840 jim murez: But the first that's the motion Robin excuse me i'm gonna mute you that's that's the motion that we're not hearing yet. 327 00:39:08.910 --> 00:39:09.540 jim murez: Okay Jay. 328 00:39:10.050 --> 00:39:10.890 jay handal: And i've been. 329 00:39:11.370 --> 00:39:14.520 jim murez: there's still three hands up Helen has hers up see masters up. 330 00:39:14.910 --> 00:39:18.930 jay handal: Okay well i've been had his up then we'll go ahead and we'll go theme and then we're going to vote. 331 00:39:19.170 --> 00:39:21.330 jim murez: yeah I don't know how many before either. 332 00:39:22.350 --> 00:39:39.930 Ivan: Okay, so Jay I have a couple of questions for schema if i'm making sure that i'm seeing what, what is your deadline on this, I mean at what point is it too late for you to do anything. 333 00:39:42.420 --> 00:39:47.220 Ivan: Are you stuck with October the you know the week of October 11. 334 00:39:49.740 --> 00:39:54.270 Ivan: i'm thinking if we postpone next you know Come on, can we postpone this. 335 00:39:54.300 --> 00:39:56.400 Ivan: We thought the conference you know. 336 00:39:56.820 --> 00:40:03.630 Sima Kostovetsky: Based on the calendars now now look, I can only count my head or bang my head against the wall so many times. 337 00:40:03.990 --> 00:40:12.630 Sima Kostovetsky: i'm trying to do this for a Community right because I feel like Venice needs this it's up to the candidates, whether they're going to agree to this or not. 338 00:40:12.900 --> 00:40:21.990 Sima Kostovetsky: The mayoral candidates already said no to September, so this is my second attempt Okay, and it can only happen during the week of October 11. 339 00:40:22.290 --> 00:40:35.400 Sima Kostovetsky: Because of many factors, so this all falls apart in two weeks, because the candidates have a deadline to get back to me, because otherwise I don't have any way of pulling this off and the reality so. 340 00:40:36.660 --> 00:40:38.010 Sima Kostovetsky: a long way to say this. 341 00:40:38.250 --> 00:40:40.350 Sima Kostovetsky: But we don't have time if we push the wrong. 342 00:40:40.740 --> 00:40:46.980 Ivan: If we can get this before the board next week, then it becomes a moot point. 343 00:40:47.730 --> 00:40:48.360 Sima Kostovetsky: Exactly. 344 00:40:48.780 --> 00:40:49.710 Sima Kostovetsky: And again okay. 345 00:40:50.220 --> 00:40:54.750 Ivan: Stop there just stop there, but I just want know that okay. 346 00:40:56.100 --> 00:41:00.480 Ivan: My other question is so how many candidates, do you have confirmed get. 347 00:41:01.530 --> 00:41:01.950 Sima Kostovetsky: None. 348 00:41:04.110 --> 00:41:05.250 Ivan: Why are we doing this. 349 00:41:07.050 --> 00:41:20.820 Sima Kostovetsky: Because this is an October deadline and I everybody is on summer vacation and coven and I would just like to give because what we proposed they didn't agree to they We wanted a candidate for them. 350 00:41:21.210 --> 00:41:40.890 Sima Kostovetsky: And that was not something that they were interested in so currently one of the things that we discussed and outreach was just for the candidates to give a 20 minute introduction, once again I i'm not going to spend this money if this doesn't happen and to jay's point it's not a okay. 351 00:41:42.240 --> 00:41:48.630 Sima Kostovetsky: Again this all falls apart, if the candidates aren't available, and we have so many. 352 00:41:49.140 --> 00:42:02.310 Sima Kostovetsky: go through between my meeting you know I still have to meet with the city and make sure, everything is kosher this is really my attempt, given the timing of attempting to do this, and this is the only way that it can happen. 353 00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:06.630 jay handal: Okay who's next on the queue. 354 00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:09.000 jim murez: Helen has her hand up. 355 00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:09.750 Okay. 356 00:42:11.070 --> 00:42:20.010 Helen Fallon: I arguing for postponement because just hold a special board meeting, let them clean this up so it's all all correct and there isn't any question of. 357 00:42:20.640 --> 00:42:38.340 Helen Fallon: In in Jewish undue influence on establishing this amount to be paid out what was going to go to and just hold a special board meeting them to pass it with the one item this time to do that you've helped plenty of special board meetings this past year, so do it again. 358 00:42:39.120 --> 00:42:40.110 jay handal: Any other hands. 359 00:42:41.460 --> 00:42:44.940 jim murez: See matt has her hand up I don't know if she's already made her comments or not. 360 00:42:48.570 --> 00:42:51.810 jim murez: Okay, I guess i'll just lower the head everybody's hell okay. 361 00:42:52.470 --> 00:42:54.270 jay handal: i'm good i'm just going to say this. 362 00:42:57.300 --> 00:43:04.260 jay handal: I am firmly against special board meetings and special meetings, Jim you know I wrote that to you about a month and a half ago. 363 00:43:04.620 --> 00:43:11.430 jay handal: yep and I hear constituents in Venice complaining all the time that all we have a special board meeting. 364 00:43:12.540 --> 00:43:25.350 jay handal: So for all of the reasons I said before, I am going to vote no on the postponement and let it go to add calm and between now and the board meeting. 365 00:43:26.910 --> 00:43:37.890 jay handal: get it fixed so that the board can vote on it properly, we have enough time to to allocate the money and for. 366 00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:44.910 jay handal: The Board to vote up or down and, quite frankly, whether or not candidates are even going to come, this could be a moot point. 367 00:43:45.510 --> 00:43:55.320 jay handal: But to answer ivan's question, the reason is coming before everybody now is because you want to be ready in case the candidates say yes and. 368 00:43:55.980 --> 00:44:03.600 jay handal: You can't not be ready, because you know how these candidates work, you know once they say yes, you got to lock them in. 369 00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:17.910 jay handal: So for all those reasons I vote not I will vote not the post phone and in that case, I would say we're going to close debate and go to a vote on the motion to postpone so Jim can you put up the vote, my vote is. 370 00:44:18.930 --> 00:44:21.000 jim murez: Second, let me just type this out real quick. 371 00:44:27.510 --> 00:44:36.870 jim murez: That was made by one second to by Jim and Jay how are you voting. 372 00:44:37.080 --> 00:44:37.680 jay handal: voting no. 373 00:44:39.240 --> 00:44:45.090 jim murez: And I will vote no also Sema know. 374 00:44:46.260 --> 00:44:46.680 jim murez: Ivan. 375 00:44:47.430 --> 00:44:49.440 jim murez: know and Helen. 376 00:44:49.890 --> 00:44:50.430 Yes. 377 00:44:51.600 --> 00:45:04.080 jay handal: So that vocals five to 111 more i'm sorry i'm sorry one before it fails, we will now go to the motion as amended. 378 00:45:05.640 --> 00:45:07.890 Lisa Redmond: Then you need to create an amended motion. 379 00:45:08.100 --> 00:45:09.870 jim murez: yeah so I need I need to. 380 00:45:12.690 --> 00:45:15.060 jim murez: How do we want I can strike the description. 381 00:45:15.540 --> 00:45:20.250 jay handal: yeah it's actually not the motion motion is just allocate the money. 382 00:45:21.450 --> 00:45:27.240 jay handal: It has to be with the instructions that yo Venice and West side current. 383 00:45:28.710 --> 00:45:32.730 jay handal: are not eligible to receive any funding. 384 00:45:32.790 --> 00:45:35.430 jim murez: Or you want me to put that down here in addition. 385 00:45:35.730 --> 00:45:48.570 jay handal: I would put it in the motion itself Jim the Budget Committee recommends to the board to authorize up to 30 $500 for the promotion and outreach have up to three candidates events, just like it is and. 386 00:45:49.170 --> 00:45:52.230 jim murez: i'll do is I will copy it down here. 387 00:45:52.950 --> 00:45:55.440 jim murez: Okay, and then I will put in here. 388 00:45:58.350 --> 00:45:59.190 jim murez: What do we want to say. 389 00:45:59.220 --> 00:46:00.960 jay handal: yo yo Venice well. 390 00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:04.680 jim murez: Look, you n s to exclude house out. 391 00:46:04.830 --> 00:46:09.570 jay handal: yeah i'm stood saloon yo Venice and West side current. 392 00:46:13.500 --> 00:46:13.920 jay handal: that's it. 393 00:46:15.240 --> 00:46:19.740 Ivan: Okay Jay can we put a date in this we're deadline in it. 394 00:46:20.850 --> 00:46:25.440 Ivan: that the money has to be spent prior to the selection I don't want this carrying over. 395 00:46:26.160 --> 00:46:28.290 jay handal: Well, I can't carry can't have a candidate. 396 00:46:30.330 --> 00:46:39.810 Ivan: to authorize 30 $500 for the production of free candidate event, it could be, you know the midterm elections or who knows. 397 00:46:40.350 --> 00:46:42.360 jay handal: I think you're being picky, but if you want. 398 00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:42.420 It. 399 00:46:43.860 --> 00:46:45.000 Helen Fallon: On the original notion. 400 00:46:46.950 --> 00:46:48.600 jay handal: it's not in the motion. 401 00:46:48.690 --> 00:46:50.370 Helen Fallon: it's a week of October 11. 402 00:46:50.670 --> 00:46:52.590 jay handal: that's not in the motion that's into this. 403 00:46:53.490 --> 00:46:59.070 Ivan: i'm asking to add in prior to whatever the election day is November. 404 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:01.560 Sima Kostovetsky: Third, prior to. 405 00:47:03.870 --> 00:47:04.800 Ivan: 22. 406 00:47:05.340 --> 00:47:05.640 Right. 407 00:47:07.980 --> 00:47:09.120 Sima Kostovetsky: don't have an issue with that. 408 00:47:09.330 --> 00:47:23.850 jay handal: yeah that's fine Okay, so the Budget Committee recommends that board to authorize up to 30 $500 for promotion outreach have up to three candidate events prior to November 3 2022 funds to exclude yo Venice and West side current. 409 00:47:25.020 --> 00:47:26.280 jay handal: who's going to make that motion. 410 00:47:27.090 --> 00:47:28.710 jim murez: I don't mind, making it that's fine. 411 00:47:29.070 --> 00:47:31.320 jay handal: Jim mixed emotion who's going to second. 412 00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:33.480 jay handal: steam and say. 413 00:47:35.820 --> 00:47:37.950 jay handal: Okay, any other discussion. 414 00:47:40.590 --> 00:47:41.640 jim murez: I see no hands. 415 00:47:41.820 --> 00:47:43.560 jay handal: Seeing none will call for the vote. 416 00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:45.780 Helen Fallon: Oh, you need to take public comment. 417 00:47:46.470 --> 00:47:47.790 jay handal: Okay, public comment. 418 00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:49.200 jim murez: I can just went up. 419 00:47:49.470 --> 00:47:51.270 jay handal: Okay, there you go public comment. 420 00:47:52.350 --> 00:47:54.480 jim murez: Helen excuse me Lisa go ahead. 421 00:47:55.470 --> 00:47:59.010 Lisa Redmond: yeah so it do I get to speak now on the original motion, or is this. 422 00:47:59.010 --> 00:47:59.970 jay handal: The ultimate much. 423 00:48:00.690 --> 00:48:01.740 jay handal: This is an emotion. 424 00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:04.260 jim murez: it's alternate motion to on the screen that's. 425 00:48:04.260 --> 00:48:17.610 Lisa Redmond: what's Unfortunately you never asked for the original motion um I do have a problem with this motion ultimate because now you've excluded two publications and left to one being a real estate magazine. 426 00:48:18.630 --> 00:48:29.370 Lisa Redmond: Oh, I believe there should be a detailed description of how that money is going to be spent, even though the outreach Terrence now saying it's all digital but, then that means that that person has to be. 427 00:48:30.270 --> 00:48:31.830 Lisa Redmond: A subscriber to the. 428 00:48:31.860 --> 00:48:44.640 Lisa Redmond: newsletter you're excluding a lot of people by just getting to some subscribers how is beneficial fan of spending all this money going to be beneficial if you're trying to reach an audience when you're getting the same 40 people. 429 00:48:46.590 --> 00:48:53.640 Lisa Redmond: I do think that budget should man more explicit details of how it's going to be spent what the planets. 430 00:48:54.060 --> 00:48:55.770 jay handal: Thank you who's the second. 431 00:48:58.620 --> 00:49:00.210 jim murez: that's all of the public. 432 00:49:00.750 --> 00:49:01.290 jay handal: Okay. 433 00:49:01.350 --> 00:49:05.970 jim murez: And then there is a hand up by Sema for some reason but. 434 00:49:09.900 --> 00:49:10.200 jim murez: There is. 435 00:49:10.980 --> 00:49:12.150 jay handal: Anybody on the committee. 436 00:49:12.330 --> 00:49:14.550 jim murez: There aren't yeah there are no, there are no other. 437 00:49:15.600 --> 00:49:20.160 jim murez: hands in the audience seems hand is up I just pushed the wrong button and dropped it sorry Sema. 438 00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:21.240 jay handal: what's up Sema. 439 00:49:21.990 --> 00:49:23.460 Sima Kostovetsky: No i'm sorry I put it down. 440 00:49:23.670 --> 00:49:25.800 jay handal: Okay anybody else Jim. 441 00:49:25.890 --> 00:49:30.060 jim murez: No, there are no other hand, Oh well, no yeah no no other hands up. 442 00:49:30.270 --> 00:49:31.410 jay handal: Who will go for the vote. 443 00:49:33.210 --> 00:49:34.440 jay handal: I vote yes. 444 00:49:35.100 --> 00:49:37.590 jim murez: Okay i'm gonna vote yes. 445 00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:40.860 Sima Kostovetsky: Yes, thank you. 446 00:49:41.490 --> 00:49:42.810 Ivan: Ivan yes. 447 00:49:43.650 --> 00:49:44.970 Helen Fallon: Helen no. 448 00:49:45.930 --> 00:49:51.540 jay handal: Okay, that goes for one zero that motion passes and goes to the board. 449 00:49:53.730 --> 00:49:57.450 jay handal: Any other okay with motion to adjourn. 450 00:49:58.470 --> 00:50:01.200 jim murez: I will make the motion to adjourn do we need a motion to adjourn. 451 00:50:01.710 --> 00:50:02.730 jay handal: yeah I. 452 00:50:03.390 --> 00:50:08.460 Helen Fallon: Did we before you a journey we get cat I know I apply for the Treasury we get more candidates. 453 00:50:09.930 --> 00:50:18.660 jim murez: I haven't seen any and our rules person is out of the country, so I guess i'm gonna have to. 454 00:50:20.790 --> 00:50:24.540 jim murez: I guess, I will have to ask for I know Jay Jay submitted one. 455 00:50:25.890 --> 00:50:27.690 jim murez: I don't know if there are any others. 456 00:50:27.780 --> 00:50:29.400 Helen Fallon: And I turn mine and on time. 457 00:50:29.790 --> 00:50:33.990 jim murez: Okay, I will have to check to see how we can. 458 00:50:35.250 --> 00:50:39.570 jim murez: How how they were submitted I believe they were sent to rules into the secretary. 459 00:50:40.200 --> 00:50:49.590 jim murez: And, and the Secretary I talked to her yesterday to Melissa and she did say she had received some applications, but she wasn't she didn't remember at the time which one she had received. 460 00:50:50.010 --> 00:50:58.620 jim murez: And I said well i'll need them all prior to five o'clock on Thursday and she said she would get them to me I haven't seen them yet so i'll have to follow up on that Thank you. 461 00:51:01.980 --> 00:51:09.120 jay handal: Okay, so we have a motion vijay motion by Jim a second by Jane with john Is there anyone who's doesn't want to go home. 462 00:51:11.040 --> 00:51:12.330 jay handal: Then we are adjourn. 463 00:51:13.860 --> 00:51:14.910 jay handal: buddy Thank you. 464 00:51:14.970 --> 00:51:15.900 Wednesday