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Changing your role to

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in your role.

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Up there goes.

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He has to be. Ah,

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james murez: the host! I'll make Sarah the host. The

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Sarah Wauters: Thanks, Jim.

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Sarah Wauters: There we go.

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Sarah Wauters: So much glare on my glasses,

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Sarah Wauters: Sarah. You're now the host. You have to do all the of your own promoting and demoting or whatever. Okay?

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Sarah Wauters: Okay. So okay,

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Sarah Wauters: hang it up. I gotta. I gotta check out my farmers bye for now.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, Thank you. Okay,

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Sarah Wauters: Noel. Hi, Isabel. Oh, it looks so green. There,

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Sarah Wauters: you're appropriately positioned under trees. Can you hear me? Okay,

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Sarah Wauters: there's Noelle.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay,

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Sarah Wauters: just looking to see if my lunch is in my teeth. Okay,

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Sarah Wauters: You look very nice, Isabel,

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Sarah Wauters: are you? Um! Are you attending any functions? Are there? Is this parents weekend?

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Noel Johnston: It's about. Maybe it doesn't have. Um.

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Noel Johnston: Is she muted.

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Noel Johnston: Can you let Deborah Burden, or is she mute?

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, i'm trying to

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Sarah Wauters: allowed to talk, I guess there she is.

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Sarah Wauters: Hi, Deborah!

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Sarah Wauters: Um, you're on mute. Deborah.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, Got it? Thank you.

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Sarah Wauters: Now, of course,

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Sarah Wauters: really feeling like I need my um, my bigger computer.

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Sarah Wauters: Hmm. Okay,

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Sarah Wauters: How much time do we have.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Did you promote Deborah?

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Sarah Wauters: I'm going to go? Ah,

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Sarah Wauters: she she's in there, she just! She declined to be promoted as a panelist,

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Sarah Wauters: but she can speak.

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Sarah Wauters: She just is on mute.

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Sarah Wauters: But right now i'm not on mute. I'm sorry I was just running to put away things from the farmers market,

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DEBORAH BIRD: so I you can ask me again about being a panelist. I'm fine with that, and I just

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DEBORAH BIRD: so he

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Sarah Wauters: so what i'm going to do Actually, I need to figure out how to get this, to shrink.

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Sarah Wauters: There we go. Okay,

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Sarah Wauters: because I need to look at the

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Sarah Wauters: I need to look at the agenda and then my questions at the same time,

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Sarah Wauters: this is complicated.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Did you double-check with Aaron that he has the zoom link?

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Sarah Wauters: Um. Oh, that's a really good

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Sarah Wauters: question. Let me send. I've just been communicating with Lucy and Charlotte

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Sarah Wauters: um directly

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Sarah Wauters: that

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Sarah Wauters: i'm going to do that right now. I mean, I've

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Sarah Wauters: now I don't have a telephone number for either.

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Noel Johnston: It's a

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Sarah Wauters: staff members.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, Um, let's see.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, we're all good.

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There we go.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, I'm: all set.

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Sarah Wauters: So I don't see? Well, I guess we're early yet. We've got a lot of time.

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Sarah Wauters: So um,

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Sarah Wauters: Isabel, Is it? Okay to talk about? You're on mute. But is it. Okay, to talk about your letter a little bit.

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Sarah Wauters: I just wanted to compliment you on it.

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That's better.

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Sarah Wauters: Here she is.

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Hello!

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Sarah Wauters: Hello! Hello!

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Noel Johnston: So, Noel! Do you think you might be able to type some notes today? Sure, if you'd like me to, I will,

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Noel Johnston: It would be great, because I just feel like i'm going to be handling so much. I agree.

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Noel Johnston: since we're sort of vamping here a little bit,

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Noel Johnston: I

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Noel Johnston: I did not really understand what sequel it was, and I read up a little bit about it online. Um, All what I had been noticing that

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Noel Johnston: is, that on all of the big projects it seemed to me like the like sequel was waved.

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Noel Johnston: And um

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Noel Johnston: I I was. I was finding it

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Noel Johnston: kind of disturbing that that no projects seem to be eligible for sequel. So I looked it up, and there's a specific exemption

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Noel Johnston: for a low-income housing

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Noel Johnston: so I guess low-income housing doesn't have to never has to pass sequel,

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Noel Johnston: and I did not know that.

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Noel Johnston: Um, yeah, that either.

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Noel Johnston: I guess I guess I am.

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Noel Johnston: I am for sequela being expanded. Of course it's a state

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Noel Johnston: uh State law. It isn't, you know it isn't

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Noel Johnston: los Angeles. It's not a not a city thing, but it it just seems to me that because you're a low-income housing, because there's so much low-income housing being proposed right now and because we've we've even got temporary sites like the one on sunset and pacific,

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Noel Johnston: that have seemed to have expanded

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Noel Johnston: from what was going to be a temporary two-year

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Noel Johnston: Ah, we're intelligent housing project! It no longer seems to to be what it sold itself as. And of course that's a great big concrete expanse that was once a bus yard that

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Noel Johnston: I mean it. It was Metro to begin with, but Metro was going to develop it as a

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Noel Johnston: low-income housing project, but, as I understand it, not a section eight housing

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Noel Johnston: project, so all of Metro's plans had green aspects. The bridge housing has been at all.

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Noel Johnston: It wasn't the bridge housing isn't it temporary,

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Noel Johnston: it's proving itself not to be temporary.

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Noel Johnston: I I've tried contract.

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Noel Johnston: Well. The reason why. The reason why I ask that is because Tim, I don't think temporary buildings are going to have to comply with Sika, either.

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Noel Johnston: That's great as long as they're not. That's the way they're getting around

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Noel Johnston: right exactly thing is by saying that they're temporary. This shows no signs of being what it says it was. It shows no signs of of being temporary. Ah! In any in any sense. I don't know me

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Noel Johnston: No idea when they're when they're going to get control of the property they have. No, that their plans are all on. Hold.

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Noel Johnston: At least that's what their representatives say.

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Noel Johnston: Was that right? They said that so? The bridge housing it seems that that it's here to stay, at least at least at me a foreseeable future. I miss him

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Noel Johnston: unfortunate to me because it was sold to the community as being temporary. It has no, I repeat, no green space in it.

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Noel Johnston: That was kind of understandable.

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Noel Johnston: Yeah, housing as a housing project. No,

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Sarah Wauters: no. And actually, what's happening now is that it seems, with both the Venezuela project. And with this project you're talking about. The bridge housing is that that the housing is very inhumane.

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Noel Johnston: Why would we put our most vulnerable. And you know people who have real challenges. Why would we put them in housing that has no green space.

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Sarah Wauters: That's only going to exacerbate their problems. I mean, it's

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Noel Johnston: it's inhumane. Well, I I don't. I can't address the the housing quality.

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Noel Johnston: Yeah. And and there

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Noel Johnston: I You know the the idea of temporary housing and temporary programs for homelessness is not in my purview, but what they, the fact that lack springspace entirely. I I think that

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Noel Johnston: I think that the original idea,

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Noel Johnston: at least, as I understood it, it was sold in the neighborhood as being a a temporary thing, while Metro got it to act together and put together design programs. Metro had one neighborhood meeting in which they got us all to do The you know, the whiteboard thing where we were jotting down our ideas. I think it was just one meeting on that, and we talked about green space, and how on board trees were, and uh,

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Noel Johnston: so and so forth. But as there seems as Metro seems to have disengaged itself from this right now,

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Noel Johnston: Um, I don't know what to say about it anymore, It's just a great big expanse. That seems to be a sequel.

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Noel Johnston: Um,

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Noel Johnston: Exactly. Exactly.

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Noel Johnston: And and again I just don't and I don't understand why why every housing project, every low-income housing project is exempt from Sql.

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Noel Johnston: I I actually think that that exemption was recently passed at the State. Level. I think that I think there was a perception throughout California that we are. How low is Paula is here,

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Sarah Wauters: and Joanne,

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Sarah Wauters: and

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Joanne D'Antonio: that's the right thing.

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Sarah Wauters: Hi, guys, how are you? Is there a candidate going to speak at this meeting.

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Sarah Wauters: Yes, that's correct, He well, he's actually we're going to question him. Is the prime

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Sarah Wauters: You can really um,

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Sarah Wauters: you know I wasn't really going to do an elaborate introduction. I was just going to say thanks for coming candidate. Let's see. Let me just make sure i'm getting everybody in here.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, Andreas Marianne.

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Sarah Wauters: Thanks, guys.

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Sarah Wauters: Um. So it, you know. There's probably going to be quite a number of attendees. So i'm just making sure to get everybody in, and then, once, you know, some time goes by, then i'll go ahead and start the meeting.

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Sarah Wauters: It's.

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Sarah Wauters: I hope i'm not missing anyone

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Noel Johnston: the moment we have total of nine. Yes, that makes that make sense. Okay, right? Yeah. The candidate is not meant to show up until about one thousand one hundred and forty five,

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Sarah Wauters: so we can.

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Sarah Wauters: I'm sorry. Who was that

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Sarah Wauters: there is here?

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Isabelle Duvivier: Are you promoting them all to panelists?

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Sarah Wauters: I'm not. I should promote scary to panelists, but I was just allowing people to speak. Okay, Um, which I think is not. But I also kind of want to

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Sarah Wauters: with folks I don't know. I'm. Hoping to just allow them to participate until

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Sarah Wauters: it's time

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Sarah Wauters: for them to speak.

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Sarah Wauters: They raise their hands. Now everyone can raise their hands in this application. Correct,

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Noel Johnston: you guys, I My screen does This is it? Is it just?

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Noel Johnston: Is it just panelists that can raise their hands? What about participants?

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Sarah Wauters: Hold on. I've got some more people to let in here.

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Barry Campion: We could raise our hands also.

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Noel Johnston: Okay, Good. Okay, that's great. Thank you. And Evan Corrigan is here

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Isabelle Duvivier: it's great.

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Barry Campion: Do you see me?

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Barry Campion: Who is that speaking? It's Barry?

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Barry Campion: Hi, Mary, I see your name, but we don't see your picture.

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Barry Campion: It tells me i'm talking.

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Sarah Wauters: Well, we hear you. That would be the truth.

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Sarah Wauters: I'm just going to concentrate on letting in attendees for the moment.

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Sarah Wauters: But um,

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DEBORAH BIRD: hey, Mary, Can you just click on the the little

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DEBORAH BIRD: video camera on the left hand corner?

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Barry Campion: I don't think she was promoted.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh, is that why I can't see her. So yeah, you have to promote her. I see panelists. Okay, here we go.

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DEBORAH BIRD: I don't even know what the promotion and the panel means. If I if I want to to not be on a panelist, it should not be a panelist. Then take me off.

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Sarah Wauters: Know that's fine. I'm not. I actually am not excluding anyone from that

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Sarah Wauters: on purpose areas.

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Barry Campion: Okay, there's Barry. It would be useful, I think the actual committee must be visible,

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Sarah Wauters: or since you're very visible

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Sarah Wauters: our you know, in our activities I'd like to be able to see your face.

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Sarah Wauters: I think i'm also going to promote Joanne.

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Sarah Wauters: Joanne is also a

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Sarah Wauters: so she works very closely with Isabelle and Seafood. So she's very aware of the

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Sarah Wauters: um

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Sarah Wauters: some of the issues that we're going to discuss today.

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Sarah Wauters: But I think many of you will find that the questions that I pose to the candidate are very locally talented to projects that have been discussed on the on the Venice side of things.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay,

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Isabelle Duvivier: Sarah Lenore is in the waiting room.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh, I'm: sorry. Thank you. That's okay. I should just shut up.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, Hey, Sarah. I'm just gonna stay in the background.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, thank you, Andreas. We're glad to have you.

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Sarah Wauters: So Isabel. It's now eleven, thirty, six, Perhaps I should get started, and you could handle the

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Sarah Wauters: admission of new attendees. Would you like to do that?

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Isabelle Duvivier: I would that you have to. You have to let me?

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, right now. I'm not I. I don't have that ability. I can only see who's a a panelist and an attendee. But I can't let anybody

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Isabelle Duvivier: in the room.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, I'm going to make you a co-host right now. Okay.

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Sarah Wauters: Perfect. So. And who do you want me to elevate to panelists?

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Sarah Wauters: Well, i'd like everyone to just be able to speak for now.

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Sarah Wauters: So that's what I've been doing, is I've been allowing everyone to

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Sarah Wauters: speak

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Sarah Wauters: So I think that's where we should let it be for the moment,

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Sarah Wauters: unless there's anyone that is in the attendees that would really like to show their face. You can let me know by raising your hand.

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Let's see here,

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Sarah Wauters: I know. Raised hands. Okay,

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Sarah Wauters: Okay? Well, this is great.

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Sarah Wauters: I'm: so glad. So many of you have showed up. That's wonderful.

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Sarah Wauters: Um, Okay, I think we're going to get started because we are already at eleven, thirty, seven, and i'd like to get some housekeeping done before the candidate arrives.

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Sarah Wauters: Let's just have a call to order. I'm. Here, obviously. And Isabel

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Sarah Wauters: Ah, Mark Ribeck is absent.

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Sarah Wauters: My, Noel Johnson is present. No, while he's still here.

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Sarah Wauters: She has been. She must be on mute. Barry is here, and Michael Mcguffin is not yet present.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, Well, we have a quorum that's good news.

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Sarah Wauters: So would anybody like to review or comment on the the minutes from the September, the second meeting.

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Sarah Wauters: They were posted about a week ago,

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Sarah Wauters: and they just reflected what we talked about last time.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, Shall we adopt them then? If there's no comment.

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Sarah Wauters: Would anyone like to go ahead and motion to adopt?

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Noel Johnston: I'll make? I'll make a motion that we adapt the minutes from the last meeting, thanks to all

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Sarah Wauters: okay. So we're meant to allow public comment right at this moment only on things for training trees. But we also will have ample time to make public comments

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Sarah Wauters: after questions are asked. So if anybody wants to make a public comment on a

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Sarah Wauters: that's not on the agenda, but does pertain? Please go ahead. Anybody have a something that Isabel is raising her hand.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah, I just wanted to mention. I heard you at the beginning of the meeting talking about sqa, and I want to also mention that there are plenty of free removals that are also exempt. In fact, we've seen large numbers of tree removals that Don't require

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Isabelle Duvivier: sequel review, which is a real problem, and we've been trying to get down to the bottom of it and have had a hard time. I know Marianne King is on this call, and she's a former planner, and very knowledgeable about that. At some point we might want to take that on as a

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Isabelle Duvivier: question who determines whether a project should be sequ example for a large-scale tree removal.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, thanks.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay. You're of course. Not a member of the public, Unfortunately, Isabel, but It's great that you made the comment.

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Sarah Wauters: Is there anyone speaking? I thought someone was speaking just a moment.

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Noel Johnston: I did, too. It sounded muffled. It might have been the background of Isabel.

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Sarah Wauters: Is there anybody here who's not a committee member who would like to make public comment, for we dive into chair reports

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Sarah Wauters: Joanne, please go ahead.

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Joanne D'Antonio: One of the things that I've been um looking for in candidates is um a vision for trees, because they seem to be a a sort of overlooked item. Everybody loves trees, but nobody really

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Joanne D'Antonio: realizes how much

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Joanne D'Antonio: effort needs to happen to preserve and plant future trees and complicating things is the biodiversity report which is steering us to native trees, which there is resistance, because

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Joanne D'Antonio: those in charge of tree planting in the city Um! Ah! Officially, not not counting some of the tree partners but um they planting partners, they they actually ah feel that the parkways have to be bigger

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Joanne D'Antonio: for Ah! Planting the native trees that would give us the maximum shade, and that would require an element of being willing to address the streetscapes.

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Joanne D'Antonio: And this is for right of way trees, and that there hasn't been an appetite to do that.

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Joanne D'Antonio: Um, every time City Council does anything having to do with trees, whether it's property, theres or right away trees, it turns into a report back that never gets done.

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Noel Johnston: And so we are. You know we have kind of a drain that that these motions go to that are well intended, but nothing ever happens, and I think the City Forest Officer is trying to use the

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Joanne D'Antonio: urban fostering management plan as the solution. But

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Joanne D'Antonio: we we actually don't know what's in there, what what she's, what she's planning, or who's writing it, or any of that. She's working on a financing study. We're expecting a report, but it Hasn't happened so. I I mean, this is not to disparage anybody. This is just to kind of say what my observation of what's going on is, and you know I understand there's complications in how the city is set up, and people are overworked and et cetera, et cetera, but

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Joanne D'Antonio: just just making an observation here.

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Sarah Wauters: Thank you, Kate Scanlan. Please go ahead.

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kate scanlon-double: Yeah, hi! Everybody. I love these meetings. Um,

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kate scanlon-double: Thank you, Joanne for that comment. I couldn't agree more, and I just I, too, you know, when the candidate comes on, I think

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kate scanlon-double: something, you know, and this is repetitive, But something that needs to be addressed is

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kate scanlon-double: the question,

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kate scanlon-double: How will the candidate once in office,

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kate scanlon-double: how will they seek to align city's green policies

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kate scanlon-double: with implementation with practice, you know. Where is you know, like how often will they meet with urban forestry? Will they put someone on staff? That is um that is solely dedicated, or mostly dedicated to climate solutions. Will they run plans through them? Where will be the accountability? Where will be the um,

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kate scanlon-double: the overseeing, the management that Yes, we know we have an urban forestry department. Yes, we know there are policies in place. Yes, there's this study happening in that state.

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kate scanlon-double: Where will that be managed so that someone is accountable? Someone has their eye on the prize, and someone is filtering, making sure all these good, sound, scientific knowledge

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kate scanlon-double: implemented in projects. So I wonder how a Council person

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kate scanlon-double: well

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kate scanlon-double: commit to to make that happen,

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kate scanlon-double: and to have it be a consistent, a consistent and collaborative endeavor, you know, week after week, month after month, year after year, because to me that shows the seriousness of the intent. But do we have the will to put the

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kate scanlon-double: um bureaucratic, if you will. Whatever do, we have the will to build the structure into.

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kate scanlon-double: He's.

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kate scanlon-double: Use the structure to this advancement to our survival. Thank you. Okay, thanks, Kate. I see there's a few other hands up. I What i'd like to do is

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Sarah Wauters: Let's move on to the reports and get through them quickly. The candidate is supposed to join us any minute now, so i'd like to get that done, and then perhaps your comment can be saved for

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Sarah Wauters: public comment after he does his question answering, So

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Sarah Wauters: i'm the chair. So my report is very stant this week we did. I'm going to have a report on Bbg:

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Sarah Wauters: but most of the efforts this week have been to arranging for this meeting and um drafting questions that address Many of the issues that have been raised in public comment today. So um! Isabella is here with us. Is there anything Um, Isabel, that you'd like to share with us from?

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Isabelle Duvivier: Not at this time.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, thank you. No? Well, would you go ahead and give us your report for Vvg:

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Noel Johnston: Sure Uh, I wasn't here last weekend I was in Santa Fe, New Mexico, where I managed to pick up uh Covid,

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Noel Johnston: which is unfortunate. Um, so i'm not going to make our effort this weekend, either. But I understand that. Ah, Eric Schiff is ah going to be out there with the crew, and that's delightful to hear. I think they're working on sunset. Ah, this weekend I'm going to try to touch base with them all. A little later in the day.

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Noel Johnston: Um! Our application for the unify L. A. Grant is uh moving along. We have, uh, we appear to have uh letters of support from a number of individuals, and uh, several organizations, including censored studios, which is occupy one block

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Noel Johnston: along the Fourth Street side of the area that we hope to be working on. So I think their endorsement and a letter of support is important.

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Noel Johnston: We have not heard back from Ah Melissa at the skills center itself we're still hoping that her support is forthcoming. It's not necessary, but it sure would be nice. Um, I think. In general we we want to go off

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Noel Johnston: um. We want to continue urging everybody to water their trees. It's been ah inordinately dry, as everybody's aware of. Um don't take a shower

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Noel Johnston: save a tree, don't water you on save a tree, I mean. I'm not asking you to never shower again, but

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Noel Johnston: I I think that they say that a five-minute shower Ah, a shower in a hurry uses approximately ten gallons of water, and that will water Ah, two trees more than adequately. So run out and water your trees and shower another day. That's my report.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, Thank you. I'm just going to answer this, because this might be the candidate. Hold on!

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Sarah Wauters: Hello, Sarah Waters

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Sarah Wauters: Aaron, i'm so sorry to hear that you

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Sarah Wauters: I can email it, or I can text it. What's your? I sent it to Lucy and Charlotte.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, I'm: So sorry. What's your email? Address?

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Sarah Wauters: Okay. Here's the link. It's just coming on a second.

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Sarah Wauters: Ah, okay. Here's the email. Hopefully, I spelled your name right?

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Sarah Wauters: It's Aaron darling. Eleven Com right?

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, You should have it.

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Sarah Wauters: you just click on the link, and then you'll pop up on our end and we'll admit you.

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Sarah Wauters: You're quite welcome. Thanks for calling.

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Sarah Wauters: Well,

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Sarah Wauters: he was prompt. Unfortunately, I think the link was lost in his in the emails. But

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Sarah Wauters: you should be coming any second.

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Sarah Wauters: Hello, Sarah wonders.

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Sarah Wauters: that's a problem.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, let me.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh, no, no, it's okay.

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Sarah Wauters: Share link,

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Sarah Wauters: copy, invite, link. Yeah, There we go.

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Sarah Wauters: sorry about that

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Sarah Wauters: these things happen. Hopefully, this one will work at the very least. You'll be able to cut and paste it.

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Sarah Wauters: I know that sometimes there's

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Sarah Wauters: yeah, well. And in fact, some of this is because of the way that our B and C zoom works. Which doesn't bear repeating. But so, thank you. Now, So Do you have that link now? Is it working?

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Sarah Wauters: Thanks. Everybody for waiting Here he is.

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Sarah Wauters: Hello, Hi! Thank you for having patience. Yeah, I had some trouble with that link myself to be honest.

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Sarah Wauters: These meetings. Our Neighborhood Council is the one who provides us with the link, and so we just have to deal with whatever we receive. So thank you for coming on board. We.

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Sarah Wauters: We have finished most of our housekeeping, So you're spared that,

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Sarah Wauters: and we can sort of dive in. I understand that you did receive a document from Isabel.

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Sarah Wauters: Yes, which i'm really happy to have heard that you got that, and

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Sarah Wauters: I wanted to sort of start by just making a brief statement for everybody who's here. I think most people who are on this call are already very familiar with some of the issues that we'll be discussing.

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Sarah Wauters: That brief statement is just simply that we have an urban canopy that is up against some tension with the

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Sarah Wauters: the will, and intent for a lot of housing to be built in our city, and it's one of the things that we think can be navigated, but because we've seen an almost catastrophic reduction in our urban canopy, and we have the most vulnerable vulnerable members of our society are facing real heat issues throughout the city of Venice is lucky. It's a little cooler on this side of town, but, as you know, when you become a council member, you do represent us,

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Sarah Wauters: but you're going to be working on the issues for the entire city. So, um that tension of the urban canopy really facing a lot of challenges, and the importance of that canopy to cooling our city and shading our streets is really central to the conversation today.

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Sarah Wauters: So first question

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Sarah Wauters: after this election, we're going to be in a unique situation. There will be a new Mayor, two new Council people, a new Chief sustainability officer, and will be in the beloved budget cycle. So what do you think are the highest budget allocation priorities for the maintenance of tree canopy? One of our greatest cooling infrastructures. And for our green space.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, thank you. A big picture. When we're thinking about the city, I think

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Erin Darling: the two things that pop to mind are actually not Venice-related, but are related to the sound like the mountains, and then also related to um south. La um, because we have amazing trees in Sandmark Mountains, and you know a big concern is development in high fire zones. Ah! And creating big luxury Homes in the hills is dangerous in of itself, but it's especially

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Erin Darling: not good when many large trees are cut down, or small trees too, so I think limiting development in high-fire zones, especially urban wildlife interfaces is key, and so there's a lot of

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Erin Darling: quite frankly, very powerful interest that have a few projects that are. You're going to expand on the Stand-alone mountains, and and i'm just not I. I. I I oppose those kinds of expansions uh and then second, I I think, South La and and other high power. It's. It's It's sad. Basically, High poverty is like It's a low precision. It's just a direct

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Erin Darling: parallel. I mean, it's a direct relationship. And I think it's quite frankly related to just forms of structural oppression, and it's it's insidious, and I believe that you know, groups like treat people or this body are really committed to equity. And in this

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Erin Darling: environmental racism Ah! Of the lack of basic services includes the lack of trees, and you know, especially in the latest heatwave where children were playing an asphalt. That was, you know, over one hundred degrees.

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Erin Darling: It's unacceptable, and so the city and the school district really has to commit

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Erin Darling: to to greening spaces. Um! And and this is a matter of public safety, you know, like people die of a heat stroke. Ah! In places that Don't have access to air conditioning and Don't have access to shade. I I actually personally have experience with this. Ah, I worked at a farmer person. A big class actually used to stay to California because the State wasn't um enforcing he rights and and basically workers were dying in the fields.

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Erin Darling: And So I believe that it's a matter of environmental justice that the city really commits to greening.

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Erin Darling: It can be just density, you know, throughout South La. But also. Let's be real also parts of C. Eleven. It's not this, this it includes, C. Eleven. Um, I will say, I will admit that I do really like countries,

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Erin Darling: and I know that pumps are not the best, and so I do think that we need to diversify our trees,

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Erin Darling: but I also want to save some uh palm trees uh, and and so I honestly defer to you all on on how to do that. But I just when the sun sets, and you see the syllabite of many countries. It just makes me.

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Sarah Wauters: But I I say all that to say. I think we have to be smart about what trees we're planning, and you know, carbon capture and shade. And and really, uh, you know what species you know do the best for communities,

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Erin Darling: and you learn it.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, that's great. My question was here mostly to getting some specificity around budget allocation. But I think that's okay. I mean, I'm: I'm glad that you're we can really glean a little bit about what your philosophy is. Um, let's move on to the second question.

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Sarah Wauters: Ninety percent of our urban canopy is on private land. Would you be open to more restrictions on tree cutting, on private property like requiring all trees to be reflected on demolition plans, and the developer must show necessity for such trees to be torn down.

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Erin Darling: Are you brief?

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Erin Darling: Yes, as well?

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Sarah Wauters: Okay. Good. So that's something that that obviously would have to be handled from the Council level, because the planning department is not

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Sarah Wauters: that at the moment it's not in that position at the moment.

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Sarah Wauters: Um, we have some present legal structures, and one of our members was mentioning this before you joined that. Do encourage the increase of canopy on private land. There is, in fact, a requirement for all new parking lots to plan for fifty percent canopy cover

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Sarah Wauters: of the parking lot. And there's another rule that requires one tree for every four parking spots, but rarely do we see a parking lot, even the best parking lots that can fly There's also a landscaping ordinance portion that says that there should be one tree in every front yard.

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Sarah Wauters: What would you do to foster enforcement or to entice compliance? The stick or the carrot with the tree protection laws that are already on the books.

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Erin Darling: Yeah, this is, I think, the issue of compliance comes up a lot. It comes up in renter protections. It comes up in zoning land use. And then certainly here.

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Erin Darling: Yeah, I I think I think it is the the carrying a stick. I mean, uh one. I think developments that that are happening uh making sure the laws on the books, you know, are being enforced, and and that is one the planning department. Um, but to I I think there can be ways that there's follow up, you know, and and it's like who's looking out for trees like is there? You know It's just kind of like with short term rentals, you know there's rules. But then, like who's really enforcing, you know um.

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Erin Darling: um in terms of which enforcement body It's a good question like, Is this a city attorney issue? Or is this within a department, you know? Uh, but I I believe there is kind of a role for spot checks just to make sure, because, you know, I think there's uh sometimes pernicious practices of you know they pass an inspection, and then all of a sudden something changes after, you know. So I think I think follow up is required um and

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Erin Darling: and and like Lord knows if this isn't happening for airbnb units or affordable housing It's like, and those are human beings like who's looking out for trees right? So I also think we have to leverage community members, you know, and people who are caring and and having a you know, a clear channel, so that you know that reports can be made of people in the community and in their neighborhoods to the city is kind of requiring the city to actually follow up on

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Sarah Wauters: portion to that which is when you support an overhaul of building code to lessen some requirements and stiffen codes that are geared toward environmental benefits and fighting climate change like requiring trees to be maintained.

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Erin Darling: Yeah. Oh, yeah. So the the building codes and and climate change is, and it's not just trees, I mean. Trees are huge. Um, you know. For for instance, like limiting the me for air conditioning right like if you have a shade structure, you know, like a tree next to a house. It's less like what we want air conditioning. But then there's all other kinds of things. So I think there's massive event, and we have water reclamation capture like there's just, and I think it has to be holistic, and in trees has to be part of this equation

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Erin Darling: combining trees. And it's where solar is sided, and you know water, reclamation, building materials, making sure and encouraging the certification like, there's so much. And then also combining that with everything else we want the building apartment to do.

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Erin Darling: And and this is not going to be easy. I'm not saying I I rattle off all these things, and there's so many institutional hurdles to this. And so i'm definitely committed to this,

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Erin Darling: because at the end of the day city Council is responsible for members, and there's a lot of things we are frustrated, say, for instance, in homelessness and say, Oh, that's a county thing in our mental health services.

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Erin Darling: But the land use is the ball game for the city, and so the City Council can't just take a back seat to the various departments. It has to be taking the leadership role on what

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Erin Darling: is the vision for the future? Because there's good people in every department working hard. But at the end of the day they're enforcing rules that are written. And so it's up to elected leadership to provide the long-term vision of what sustainability looks like.

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Sarah Wauters: Right? Okay, Thank you. Um.

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Sarah Wauters: So my next question is sort of circling back to the budget. Um. Large cities like Los Angeles, typically spend about one percent of their overall budget on growing and maintaining their urban Kennedy. And there are large cities. I think you may have received a um. A document from

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Sarah Wauters: many large cities have much more coverage than we have. We have about fourteen percent, but there are Quite a number of Boston, for instance, has something in thirty percent

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Sarah Wauters: of their coverage, and we really should not be lagging behind in this area. So La presently only spends a quarter on their urban forestry, their urban candy. Would you support an increase to one percent of the budget?

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Erin Darling: Yes, for sure, I love that. Yes, absolutely. And I also think this is something that other Council members that oftentimes kind of resent

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Erin Darling: West Side, and, like you know, budget fights. I think this is something that the City Council generally, you know, gets behind uh, especially with increasing the waves. I think there's just more popular awareness of this issue. Um! So I think. Uh, I I am supportive, but I also would take it further and say, I would urge you all through your networks to really push this to be a part of what issue? Um: throughout our life.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, yeah,

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Sarah Wauters: I think we are. We're doing. I'm not saying, you aren't. I'm just saying, this is great, because because I think i'm not saying you're not

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Erin Darling: like. There's other districts that have the fewest trees that that are open to this, but it's also not. Let's be real like this. Is not the top three issues in a campaign, you know, and so you know, making this more upfront,

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Sarah Wauters: and as it intersects to climate change and climate resiliency, I think it is, I think, a huge prod to action.

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Sarah Wauters: Yes, I think so, too.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay. So Number Five. This is going to be more localized, I mean, we've been talking in sort of more generalized terms, but

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Sarah Wauters: many of the people that are on this call are very active in tree planting and maintenance. In Venice itself. We have some other folks that are visiting us from the valley and from our vista. Um, but it's Venice is sort of the obvious subject matter of this committee. What are your views on the need for green space in Venice? In light of the fight against heat and its beneficial effect. For biodiversity, for instance,

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Sarah Wauters: bluebirds have recently returned to the west side because of the placing of bird houses in the Penmar golf course.

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Sarah Wauters: So what is your policy about green space in light of that biodiversity, and also issues like the misuse of designated green space along Jefferson, adjacent to Biona Greek.

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Erin Darling: Sure. Yeah, I mean. So, for instance,

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Erin Darling: along the Penmark golf course and and and that strip of land that is hopefully um developed, and it becomes under parks, you know, and and and within that it can be a green belt. You know where we're, you know. People can say, run and jog, and not on concrete, but also have, you know, a vibrant, you know,

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Erin Darling: plant life in a corridor, and it obviously helps the end of the golf course, which is maintained as a golf course. Then you know, as a green space, you know it is definitely open, for you know for birds in my life, and so so that, I guess is the first thing that comes to mind is making sure that this

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Erin Darling: relatively long strip of land uh is a is a healthy green space uh, and that the community has, you know, real input um, and how that how that looks. Um. But also I think there's also little pockets that when I used to look at the canals there's like this little butterfly zone, you know where we kind of walk up to the beach. And and there's like, you know, kind of little green space there where there's just like a a a butterfly corridor. Uh, and so maintaining. These, I think, is really crucial, because if it's not like a larger part, a lot of times,

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Erin Darling: these spaces, you know, get short drift. And so yeah, I I support, like basically any opportunity to green a space, a public space. I think

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Erin Darling: vibrant public space that can be used by people, but that are at the end of the day is a public space. That's a part uh that's, you know, a green space is this feels like a no-brainer. Um, as it relates to Jefferson I mean, obviously the elephant in the room

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Erin Darling: encampments. And you know, you know the the

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Erin Darling: fundamental thing is, we gotta get people inside, I mean like at the end of the day. This election is about homelessness, you know, and as a former housing lawyer as as the candidate with a real plan to get people housed and not just push people from one street corner to the next. I believe that we we have to, you know, get people off the streets and inside, and then

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Erin Darling: make sure that this area, which is, you know, a total resource,

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Erin Darling: is is maintained as such. Now whether what that looks like and in the Restoration, obviously that's tied up in litigation. And so you know that that's, you know, literally above my pay grade. Um. But but yeah, at the end of the day we we do need to restore and maintain green spaces.

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Erin Darling: The residents,

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Erin Darling: Sarah, you're muted.

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Sarah Wauters: I muted myself. There's just some noise in the back here, So I wanted to jump over to a question that you sort of touched upon, and that is that the city is actually in the last pros of going forward with a plan to put in a concrete sidewalk on that alongside.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, and there's quite a number of members here who've been involved in the work to come up with a better plan than that.

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Erin Darling: I signed a petition

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Sarah Wauters: Good. So what we would like to know from you is if you are elected, would you go back to the drawing board and try to improve this project?

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Erin Darling: So it's funny. I the last iron is that it actually still is at the drawing board,

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Erin Darling: and that that the concrete initial plan is not the actual plan that's going forward. So. The last I heard is that, in fact, that was just a quote draft, but that that is going to be changed. And so

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Erin Darling: look, I live around there. The first mile I ever ran was with my dad. His like routine was to run around a golf course. And so, you know, I really want. I personally invested in making sure that

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Erin Darling: one, I think, is goes to the Parks department, and that is maintained, and that it is a proper green belt, and it's not just pure concrete. And I think implicitly. There's concern that there's a homeless again like That's that's the issue right. But we do not have to prevent. We can prevent another encampment without turning it into kind of a concrete monster that's inhospitable to life like that that doesn't make sense. Right. It. It should be a place that people want to be. If you want to walk or run through,

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Erin Darling: or, you know,

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Erin Darling: push the stroller through, and also have a green belt, you know. Plenty of plant life in, you know, birdlife, and and then also be a place that is not, you know, fostering a new on camera.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, great. Thank you. I appreciate that. So going back up, I wanted to ask you about

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Sarah Wauters: This is actually a question from the public that someone emailed me ahead of time. He wasn't going to be able to attend. How do you plan to clean and re landscape

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Sarah Wauters: All the Medians and parkways in our district. It's a big job would you support? And this is something that I added. Would you support a major beautification of Lincoln Boulevard that would plant larger trees and possibly create, make mediums and installing the irrigation for that.

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Erin Darling: Yeah, um. So medians generally, I think there's certain streets where you

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Erin Darling: you know. For instance, Dennis Boulevard is under discussion of of like what Venice Boulevard will look like um basically up until the four five, and then also into district five. And so this is actually a lively discussion of what it looks like, and so ideally, we we do have

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Erin Darling: places that are maintained in in unified, you know tree-line mediums, and I think that's actually like really, literally up in all we Discourse right. Now Lincoln is a whole canoe of a fish Lincoln, I cannot pretend to say I have the answers from before. I think I really defer

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Sarah Wauters: to the experts on on Lincoln. It is terribly trafficked. It is. It's also like, quite John, when you go from Santa Monica, where the

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Erin Darling: electric lines are underground and then you just hit rows, and it's like, Oh, yeah, we're back, and then you know. And so

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Erin Darling: there's so much we can do. And i'm not saying, I i'm throwing up my arms and saying, I don't know what to do. I'm saying, there's so much to do like this is this intersex with some reception and traffic density supporting small businesses uh outdoor dining country can't be like. There's so many interest that converge, because the point is, it's it doesn't work right now in so many places, and we have to improve it. And I think this is

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Erin Darling: for me like a real opportunity to like, apply the best and the brightest and all these issues. But quite Frankly, a lot of these issues are siloed like traffic is siloed with tree Kennedy, which is siloed with affordable housing. And so I really look forward just a big picture, intellectually

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Erin Darling: assembling experts, and just in that act of convening it. Just really

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Erin Darling: imagine what you know. A better space could be. Lincoln, especially the

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, Thank you. Um.

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Sarah Wauters: That same gentleman. Um:

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Sarah Wauters: Well, you know what? Let's move on to having the public address you There's a number of people who are here that are actually kind of experts in their field. I'd like to give an opportunity to folks to raise their hands,

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Sarah Wauters: and perhaps you can tease out more on some of the questions we've already addressed, or you can bring up a new question. But i'd like to go ahead and give everybody an opportunity. So any questions, Folks go ahead and raise your hands.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, Joanne,

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Joanne D'Antonio: Hi! Ah, Aaron, i'm a member of Cfac. Ah, I have lived in Venice in the past, and I've also lived in the hills, and I now live in the valley. The

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Joanne D'Antonio: so I. I say that because I have a view of the city, having spent years and three parts of it. Um! I also have been on my neighborhood Council for something like eight years, and I

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Joanne D'Antonio: and i'm a member of Cfc. As I said so I I've observed a lot of problems. Um. The first problem that I think that city Council has to face is the fact that they are not tracking report backs. So Councilmember Carrett has made three

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Joanne D'Antonio: outstanding. Well, to he, two from him, outstanding motions, and one from Marquise Harris Dawson regarding trees and the legislative analysts, puts them into report backs, and nothing ever gets done. One of them actually is an o three that got revived, but

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Joanne D'Antonio: they give the report backs to the city

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Joanne D'Antonio: Forest officer, and she can't really handle it. She's a two-person department, and she also doesn't have the training to figure out a large solution that involves costs and so forth. So I I wonder if you've given any thought

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Joanne D'Antonio: to the fact that report backs get sent to overwork departments that really Don't have any ability to do the report or even the resources to do the report,

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Joanne D'Antonio: and this kind of thing will eventually expand to some of the ideas that that you have like. Ah, equity planting, because that kind of planting um just to share with you. Why, it isn't happening, is it? It involves heartscape changes,

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Joanne D'Antonio: and if these areas don't have the parkways to just go in and plant coastlive oaks, or, you know, really good sha trees, because the the heartscape

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Joanne D'Antonio: requires. So

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Joanne D'Antonio: you know, streets, la and and and urban forestry are part of the same department, but they really don't work together. They are kind of siloed, and the one person that could have actually coordinated both

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Joanne D'Antonio: is that their sustainability officer? He's left, and they're hiring a new person, and they I don't know if they're going to hire somebody that has a a tree's background, You know. His predecessor did not.

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Joanne D'Antonio: So I wrote to Keith Mosa, and asked him to please hire someone with a trees knowledge as well, or an ecology knowledge. But we have no over an ecologist, and we have no no vision that it can be put into an actual plan.

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Joanne D'Antonio: So that's my question is, What do we do about these reports that can't get done? Sure. Yeah. I mean, especially since the pandemic there's this problem, city-wide of a lot of people took early retirement and and full full hiring Hasn't happened. And so there are a lot of

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Erin Darling: It's kind of like a shell operation in a lot of departments, and it's a big problem. And so the city really needs to hire more people. And what you're describing is an example of it. But then, once hired, especially as people are kind of learning on the job, it goes back to that issue of leadership and involve

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Erin Darling: by by by Council office with departments, you know. I think there's a sense of like Oh, it's it's It's their department. Let them have like literally. It's not my department, and and no like, I think, working with leadership. Um, and making sure one that hiring happens that people have the background in ecology. It's it's crucial. But then The people who are are hired,

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Erin Darling: you know, are are taking direction from elected officials, you know, I mean, and that means like on on on so many issues where where where you're describing is a problem where, like legislators can legislate, but it doesn't mean anything If the city is not following up, you know, and I mentioned this earlier. And so this is. This is the the important drudgery of governance is is not just passing things, but making sure that the departments are are following through.

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Erin Darling: Um. And and yeah, that that's that's that's the ball game.

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Erin Darling: So I guess the answer is, yes, I I, as an elected official would have to follow up with these departments to make sure that their staff and and and you know, leadership gets the sense of the vision. And then they were following up with, you know, laws on the books and report backs, et cetera, just to make sure that

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Erin Darling: as a lawyer, you know, I know this. The law is only as real as it's in practice, right like something on the books doesn't isn't reality,

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Joanne D'Antonio: sir, you're muted.

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Sarah Wauters: Thank you. Um. We had Evan Corrigan had his hand up. So, Evan, I do want to encourage you to keep your hand up, because i'm sure that you have some

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Sarah Wauters: interesting questions. He joins us from the Transportation Committee in Venice. But, Kate, i'd like you to go ahead and ask your question, and let's be mindful of the time.

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Noel Johnston: Yeah, Hi, Aaron. Thank you for coming. Um,

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kate scanlon-double: Gosh! There's so much. But

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kate scanlon-double: I guess i'll just focus on a very small part. I'm: I'm: so pleased that you realize the need for accountability and a through line from policy to implementation on our projects,

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kate scanlon-double: and the fact that it's such a collaboration need to happen between the city department, for instance, I can just update you on the Pmr pathway is that the latest offer is a semi-permeable concrete that is still concrete, because the city fails to recognize that, for

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kate scanlon-double: that has been a natural pathway for decades. It's been dedicated to recreation. So, even though it's on the books, they say. No, it's on the books as a sidewalk.

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kate scanlon-double: Well, yes, let's recognize a community aspect when we see it in a green space that can be developed and enhanced. Biodiversity, et cetera, follow that goal line.

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kate scanlon-double: So

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kate scanlon-double: I just want to read something in today's paper as far as water reclamation. And you know in this big article, and at times today it says it's also significant are smaller initiatives, including bands on watering both non-functional brass, such as grass-found and decorative mediance. So I would. I encourage everyone to review that plan for Pamela Park, because we feel It's over-engineered, and over one thousand six hundred folks here in East Venice believe the same thing via that

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kate scanlon-double: in that the city now has eight Median Islands

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kate scanlon-double: we're more poured. Concrete

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kate scanlon-double: will encapsulate grasses that they plan to plant that there is a ban on watering, so it's kind of it's just not in sync with their own policies. And again it's just over engineered, and then to pour concrete, even though they're claiming it's permeable.

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kate scanlon-double: You know it is it semi-permeable. It's still concrete, and it's missing the the

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kate scanlon-double: so i'm glad to hear your support, and that's kind of the update. And the update also is that the transportation and parking Committee of the Bnc. Has voted for. But, However, they did a little to talk about the biking, the concrete, the the the the

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kate scanlon-double: you know, just the overall scope of the project which is over developed and has become a street project rather than one for restoration of a of a much used and needed space. So it's gonna have gotten out of control, and it's good to hear about, and I know you have a commitment to the homeless, and

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kate scanlon-double: to prevent another encounter there. But it doesn't mean you have to do that and sacrifice the climate, you know, can be both. And thank you so much.

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Erin Darling: I mean, there is. We. We have to do all both, and it's also. I really I really just appreciate you the expertise here, Because, Kate, like what you're describing like you're just, you know you're on it, you know, and so it's like There, there's there's so many. It's dealing with the city. It's just such an iterative process, but it's not just like a pleasant iterative process. It's

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Erin Darling: like a hair pulling iterative process. And so, you know, you have to do this hard work draft by draft. I also want to say, because this happened before, so I have to be very explicit.

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Erin Darling: I never propose that the Penmar golf course gets turned into a homeless shelter. There's a Twitter. Rumor about that, and I personally had to just chuckle. I was like this is absurd, but then it like rumors, have legs, and so I feel it's very

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Erin Darling: an eyebrow raising that people will support this when I've been on records. You're saying I haven't. But I just wanted to make explicit that I have never supported the Penmark golf course to use it as anything other than a golf course. And so what we're talking about here is the area around the Pennsylvania,

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Erin Darling: the the plant life that is necessary that we all want to see.

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Erin Darling: Ah, Evan,

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Evan Corrigan: I was going to ask about how you foster better collaboration between different city departments that

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Evan Corrigan: sometimes have to make exceptions like for the

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Evan Corrigan: the Rose one, for example, there's like an Ada department that just wouldn't budge. And

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Evan Corrigan: you know things are done over email and zoom. It can be kind of like hard to you,

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Evan Corrigan: I don't know. I feel like. Sometimes I work at a big company. Same thing with a big government. It's like,

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Noel Johnston: you know, when you don't know you can change something. You don't do it because it could.

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Evan Corrigan: You know you're afraid to break the procedures, I guess. How would you foster a better

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Evan Corrigan: collaboration? And then my second thing I wanted to say. If you want to see what the Lincoln below, it could look like. Santa Monica has a Lincoln neighborhood quarter playing on the website, and

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Evan Corrigan: they have a lot of visuals showing medians and planters how Lincoln Boulevard could look. Yeah, that's all.

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Erin Darling: Appreciate that. Yeah. The one hand, not knowing what the other hand, is doing. Is

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Erin Darling: that that going back like That's the drudgery that's necessary, you know. And as a civil rights lawyer, I feel like where I have experience. Is. It's holding bureaucracies accountable, you know, and oftentimes it's not mean-spirited. But it's just. There's the way things are done and that's the to work. And so this is the

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Erin Darling: uh, you know, shoulder to the

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Erin Darling: whatever the agrarian of the forest that you just have to just keep wishing, you know. And yeah, there's not like a sexy answer to this. It's just like making sure you're convening people. And I think it really took a toll besides a normal kind of bureaucratic lack of coordination. Isn't, when everyone's on zoom

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Erin Darling: and people are meeting. And so I really really believe in convening people, in competing meetings and being in the same room together, especially people who are literally within the same City hall.

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Erin Darling: Because you can't have this all this plan, and spent like weeks of work planning something, and then all of a sudden Ada comes in. It's like, Wow! Not this. It's like, Why can't Ida be in the room as something is being designed right? Um. And so it just really makes sense to convene people as opposed to like, really have a department. Then this, this, this this Um, And so I I just feel like

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Erin Darling: a lot of issues in local government can be improved with that approach.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, thank you. It seems that Paolo D. Paula, Do you have your hand up? Can you go ahead and speak? You need to unmute?

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Paola P: Ah, yes, hi,

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Hi Aaron, Thank you so much

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Paola P: I can. I did this out of the day

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Paola P: to call it

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Paola P: to appoint a person, and in account of it, like we have a director.

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Paola P: Ah, Shan um. So

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Paola P: Pfizer or some staff member for planning for every department we have someone. Would you point the first

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Paola P: a crime as advocated overseas, And that's exactly what we did not mean.

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Paola P: Look at every project under the umbrella, plan and adaptation, measure and review every project as a public purchase, or even project, to the

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Paola P: bring your attention to

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Paola P: on how to improve, where you can do better, where we can all go together, right so

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Paola P: to make for the greater benefit of

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Paola P: like climate change. People that is,

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Paola P: they are

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Paola P: focus on a homeless,

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Paola P: but they There is a very close relationship.

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Paola P: The homelessness and climate change.

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that. You are calling up here,

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Paola P: and for a better life, and therefore they end up on the street when there is no house for them. So everything is so correlate.

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Paola P: We need someone

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Paola P: that actually bring all the department together and make sure that they analyze every single project,

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Paola P: the community of the City of the

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Paola P: Thank you.

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Erin Darling: Yeah, Think about it. I mean, the answer is yes. But to get a little more granular. Um, you know. There, there's already, for instance, like pushing Dwp to one hundred percent renewable energy, and someone who's like really responsible for for that huge climate responsibility, because I'm really really committed to that. It's just pushing you over a few hundred percent.

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Erin Darling: Um. So then it is The question is, Does that person also get involved with land use to make sure? Or is it also something else where, like every job, is like part of the job. Responsibility is just to factor on climate change. You know. I I kind of lean towards that where it's like literally every job intersect with climate change. I remember when I was in law school. This is like two thousand and six. Professor said literally, there's not a lawyer.

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Erin Darling: Everyone here who's going to be a lawyer. Climate change will affect your job as a lawyer in the next four years, and it's true, and you mention climate refugees. We don't frame it this way, but literally, people say, Oh, they're coming to Venice for homelessness. People who are coming who are unhoused. We're coming from the valley,

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Erin Darling: Hollywood or other places that are blazing hot.

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Erin Darling: It's a form of climate refugees. I mean It's not like a crossing of international border, but literally moving within a city, because it's like over one hundred degrees is what we're talking about, and so I think everything intersect with climate. And so I guess I would say one yes, but having someone who's like

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Erin Darling: Job, it is on these huge climate issues, especially as it relates to renewable energy. But then, literally, every job has to have this kind of their bucket.

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Sarah Wauters: Thanks, Aaron. I have one. Oh, it looks like Janine has raised her hand, so i'd like to mean to go ahead, and I have a last question.

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Oh, it's your name.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, hi, um, Thank you. And I

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Janin Paine: I guess what's coming to me now is, how do we as a community as and people interested in the environmental issues, I mean, I know homeless is a big issue, but crime there's lots and lots of issues, and they're going to pull you in twenty million directions, and I've been the head of some organizations Not like that. But you know I know how that goes. So how could we have

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Janin Paine: some kind of ongoing

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Janin Paine: communication? Or once you're in office and you're getting pulled in twenty million different directions? Then how can we have some kind of connection.

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Erin Darling: Yeah, for sure. And this is the big I've been endorsed by so many wonderful electives, you know Ben Allen and Richard Bloom.

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Erin Darling: Ah to Mckinnon. But but everyone, you know focuses on the micron and endorsement and um, and and I think the big criticism of the bond administration is that people don't get back, you know, and it's the lack of a communication. And so I am definitely planning on on being very present, like physically, you know, and and you know

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Erin Darling: zoom as well. So um. I think there is a way that that gets kind of institutionalized in a way where it's like, you know quarterly check-ins or whatever. But it's just that something has to be on the books at the end of the day it's just a scheduling day where you like, you know verbal nine years in a life is showing up. You know It's like we have to show up for each other. Um! And so I don't know like, for say what that looks like scheduled, but like there has to be something on the books uh you know, as a place um,

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Erin Darling: and and it's it's. I will say there's good interest convergence here, because what what this group is concerned about is also raised by by folks in the hillsides. And so I think there's a lot of you know, important kind of conservation issues that also related to, you know. But like actually, I've been endorsed by the

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Erin Darling: the Ed or treat people. I I need to announce that. And so there's just a lot of expertise that I personally will need to like on. So it's not just like checking in and having something scheduled to like. Oh, I have to report to duty, but just like literally ongoing conversations with people who have expertise that need to be informed

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Erin Darling: policy throughout

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Thanksgiving.

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Sarah Wauters: Thanks for that question, Jean. Um. So my last question is concerning something very specific, and that is the the Venezuela project. There are members of the community here who are concerned that the sycamores, the um legacy sycamores that are planted along Pennsylvania

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Sarah Wauters: in the parkway, as well as some very mature trees that are in the footprint of that project are are slated to be ah destroyed. It's probably not sure yet, because we don't have obviously construction documents, but we'd like to ask you to commit to make sure that the design of that project

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Sarah Wauters: respects those trees and keeps them, keeps them there instead of throwing them out

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Erin Darling: right right. I mean it's right now. It's it's. Is that the um

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Erin Darling: ah coastal permission, right? And so I would. I would assume that that is factored into the Coastal Commission. But yeah, I mean, that's kind of a no brainer. I mean, especially because

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Erin Darling: yeah, like, there's there's various environmental concerns that that that Venice community housing, you know they just have to.

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Erin Darling: They just have to address. You know I I am in support of the project in the sense that we need to address the homeless.

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Noel Johnston: This is

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Erin Darling: but that doesn't mean it's blind support. I mean, there's design concerns environmental concerns, and that and ah, they have to take that into account. And and and we know now that, like literally, the postal commission is going to be reviewing this for another additional year. So I I think there is an opportunity, you know, for all these concerns to really go through a thorough process.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, thank you. I mean, that is that those trees, the sycamore trees, are actually in public land. So I mean, everything's public. I mean It's a public parking lot, right? But the transfer of land that's going to the project does not include the parkway where the trees are

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Sarah Wauters: right, but it's it's a sidewalk and give it to sure but no books. But if anything that cuts in favor of the preservation, anyway, it's right. It's not as if this public land is being seeded to a non-profit, so that that shouldn't be under demolition, anyways, because it's not related to the basic footprint of the of the land that's actually being given for the house.

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Sarah Wauters: Correct? That's my point. Yeah,

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Sarah Wauters: I see it.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay? Well, it looks like everyone has gotten their questions, answered. I don't see any more hands up, and I want to be um. Express my gratitude that you spend so much time with us. Been here for longer than I had. Ah originally requested. So thank you so much for that, and it's it's good to hear your thoughts. Um! I am hoping that on both a citywide basis and on a Venice basis

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Sarah Wauters: that we can see some improvement. And we're hoping that it's going to come out of the Cd eleven office. So thank you so much for your time. Anybody else. It looks like no, thank you.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Oh, no, thank you all for having me. I'm everything gets like late, so I apologize for it. But I just want to say that

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Isabelle Duvivier: I've been endorsed by the Cia Club, and in the process of doing it kind of like Here it's just this like

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Isabelle Duvivier: drinking from a firehouse like There's just so much information and like, but like that, we are in running for office. It's been really, intellectually interesting just to like, Learn more, you know. And so I I guess I sell that to say

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Erin Darling: contribute to the fire host. I just want to learn more. And because we just need to be braiding in all these concerns with local government.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, like yeah, contribute to the firehouse. Thanks. It looks like Joanne has raised her hand. If you have a quick comment, I just want to,

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Joanne D'Antonio: and let you know and thank you so much for being here. I really enjoy hearing for you, but I I want you to.

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Joanne D'Antonio: I don't think that there is an urban ecologist on our city staff, and I think what's happened is all of our sustainability. Officers don't have the science background,

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Joanne D'Antonio: and I just want to make that point. I think. Ah, that someone else made that app that point a little earlier, Kate, I think, and and I think that that really means to be said that this is something that we in the back of your head Think about how

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Joanne D'Antonio: we could get this, because I think it could be a game changer for us. Thank you?

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Erin Darling: No, that's that's That's That's great. Yeah. And like when the city's hiring people, you can't be just hiring a polyside, Major. Right? Makes So So yeah, Yeah, thank you, John.

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Joanne D'Antonio: There's something wrong with the job descriptions, because whoever writes them seems to take out things like biologists when we when it's suggested. And Then, when the job description gets done, it's like, Oh, we never did that before, and and it gets narrowed down so it's. It's one of those

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Joanne D'Antonio: little problems that turns into a big problem. Thanks so much.

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Erin Darling: Oh, totally. Yeah, no, Thank you for bringing that up.

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Noel Johnston: Thank you, Joanne. Okay, everyone. I think you can let Aaron go, and we have a few other things to discuss.

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Noel Johnston: Cool. Thank you.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay. Have a wonderful day.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay,

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Sarah Wauters: Thanks. Everybody for participating. I think that that was recently successful. I hope that you guys feel like you got a better sense of the candidate.

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Deborah Rothman: Yeah, i'm going to sign off. I really just wanted to hear Aaron's answers to these questions, and i'm impressed. But there's no chat box that I can see. So I just wanted to congratulate you Sarah, on being a really lovely zoom Moderator.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh, thank you. That's great. Thank you. I enjoyed it.

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Sarah Wauters: Thank you. I hope you guys didn't notice at that point where I was running around trying to get my power for it, because my computer was a massive.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh, okay, great. Thank you very much, Deborah. Okay, guys, so we can go back to our. Let's see we've got

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Sarah Wauters: twenty minutes.

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Sarah Wauters: We can sprint and look at our I I just really would like to hear from Noel and Janine about your applications. How is that going? Is there anything we can do to help probably is really what I should say,

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Noel Johnston: for

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Noel Johnston: I need to. Uh, I need to talk to.

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Noel Johnston: I need to talk to Michael Mcguthin a little further about this. I know he got some of ah people to sign up to volunteer time on our ah ah skill setter application! I think we probably need to get ah more volunteers to ah sign up for more hours. We've still got

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Noel Johnston: two weeks to get this done a little less in two weeks to get this done, so we have. We have enough time to get more signatures. Ah! I, As I mentioned before the meeting started, I think we have. I think we have enough. Ah! Letters in the way of community support right now. I haven't gotten any back yet, but everybody has said that they would that they would sign them,

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Noel Johnston: and I am particularly uh uh looking forward to, uh hearing from the sunset studios, which uh shares an entire block with uh Skill center. So I hope that that's what's coming. Um,

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Noel Johnston: if any of you want to

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Noel Johnston: sign up on a on a form Ah, and and haven't Ah haven't done so, or just send me an email, and i'll i'll get a form to you either ah online or in person.

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Noel Johnston: Um,

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Noel Johnston: I don't I don't have a whole lot more to say. We haven't finalized our grad application. Yet it's being written by Michael right now, and I will talk to him this weekend about it.

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Noel Johnston: That's that. Okay, that's great, Janine. How are you doing?

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Janin Paine: Um? Well, I sign up on Michael's form.

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Noel Johnston: Okay?

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Noel Johnston: Well, you need to fill your own form. Yeah, So I guess i'm going to bring one, so i'll bring a forum tomorrow,

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Janin Paine: and we can get some planets. People signed up there. That's when that needs to be done, and I I promise is a bill that I would have the draft done, or something sent out something available today, so we could request letters because I haven't really got on the letter thing.

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Janin Paine: Um,

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Janin Paine: that's about it. I just need to finish the draft, and then which is yeah, there's a draft I just need to finish it and then get the letters and get the signatures. So help getting signatures would be

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Sarah Wauters: okay. I'll start with, Bring in a phone,

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Noel Johnston: Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.

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Noel Johnston: Got one. One other question for Isabel is about. Who do we? Who should we write to at Mike Bond's office?

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Noel Johnston: I've been communicating with Jason, so as soon as I can either distribute those emails to you guys and have you do it, or I can just be the middle man. Well, i'd love it if you can do it, since you've been talking to her. Difficult, because I know you're out of town.

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Noel Johnston: No, it's not difficult. I just don't have anything to send to them. I just want to send them a draft letter to have them sign

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Isabelle Duvivier: a letter that just says, We support this project, which includes this, this, this and that.

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Isabelle Duvivier: The scripts

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fantastic.

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Noel Johnston: No, you have the letter. You have a letter right? You've been sending one.

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Noel Johnston: I have a letter, and I said a copy of it to Isabel, but but i'll send it again.

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Janin Paine: You said it to me.

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Noel Johnston: Yeah, sure. They don't have to make a move. Well, Is it a letter specific to the Council Office?

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Isabelle Duvivier: There's a generic letter. It might be nice to just personalize it a little bit,

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Isabelle Duvivier: but I can ask them to do that as well. I'm just afraid any more work on their part's going to take it longer to get it. Science.

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Janin Paine: So we would just address it to the Councilman's office or to Jason.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I know the letter would be addressed to the La Beautification team from the Council Office.

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Janin Paine: Okay,

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Isabelle Duvivier: So

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um! We would just be writing it as though we were the Council Office.

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Sarah Wauters: Right? They're just They're asking for you to draft a letter for them to sign. They don't want to be the work themselves.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah,

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Isabelle Duvivier: yeah,

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Sarah Wauters: yeah, that's always the way it goes.

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Sarah Wauters: When people want something for me. That's what I do. You.

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Sarah Wauters: You try. I'll sign it. Yeah, No problem. Give me a long until they get that. Yeah, not a problem.

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Noel Johnston: Yeah, let's have to get okay. Go ahead. No,

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Noel Johnston: I have a lot of that. I sent to um uh

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Noel Johnston: Melissa Mccarthy at at the Skill Center, and it's quite different than the one that I suggested to all of the rest of the people

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Noel Johnston: um volunteered to write letters the ones that Ah, I had volunteered to write letters so can can alder it. Anyway, they basically fit. I just suggested talking points, and I asked them to send. Make sure that they sent the letter to me, not to

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Noel Johnston: Ah, the beautifully Grant, because we want to attach it to the application. We do not want it to come floating in by itself. That's kind of important, because people think that they should just be sending it to unify a lot.

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Noel Johnston: I would love a copy of that

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Sarah Wauters: straight

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Sarah Wauters: Okay? Well, we have fifteen minutes that we can apply to new business, and there is There's well. Oh, Barry wants it. Just raised her hand. Go ahead, Barry. I'm going to have to read the meeting in about five or ten minutes, so i'm just wondering, as you know, the fancy,

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Barry Campion: pretty much said they're going to vote in favor of the current Panama Path plan as it was presented. Um! And i'm wondering if we as a

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Barry Campion: if there's any way we can request a delay of that um, and ask for more time for committees to review the plan. Um, including our committee and and I don't know if there's any avenue open to us to

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Barry Campion: say whether we approve or disapprove the plan. I just don't know the how the protocols work. But um, anyway, that's

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Sarah Wauters: go ahead as well.

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Barry Campion: I was just going to say they voted on it so fast they didn't even none of those people even had time to review it. They just voted it, based on the fact that

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Barry Campion: she made a good plea for their case. It was a very impressive presentation that was given.

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Sarah Wauters: Who Who was the Presenter

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Barry Campion: Devin from the Rose Penmark group,

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Sarah Wauters: and she she is who I mean what authority? Well, she's she and they're kind of the main leaders of the Rose-penmar neighborhood.

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Barry Campion: Um, which you know. And that group was responsible for getting to be in encampments, working with Bond's office and getting them cleared, and we all work together up to a point, and it's too long of a story. But

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Barry Campion: anyway, they're happy with the city plan. I tried to make a few practical comments about their lots of problems with the plan.

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Barry Campion: You know. They just kind of went right by that. So they actually voted. They just phone it already.

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Sarah Wauters: They did, but they voted for a very fully flushed out motion. She was ready to go right out the gate,

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Barry Campion: but the motion wasn't available to see ahead of time, so none of us got to review it. But I don't really think that they understood the project like I believe those those planner boxes are not permeable, right? They're basically concrete lines,

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Barry Campion: planner boxes that are going to get some plants that are going to require constant irrigation because they are not actually going into the ground. I don't think anyone knew that.

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Barry Campion: Yeah, you can't plant trees in them. They're just they're just concrete barriers for the pipeline, as far as I can.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay. So why don't we do this? Why don't we pass a motion? Unfortunately, we don't have our legislative guy. Here Mark is the one who's usually draft off the top of the head. But

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Sarah Wauters: well, we can't, because we don't. We don't have that on the agenda.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh, that's correct. We can so we'll have to do it. We have to do a special meeting in order to do this, and I can. I can call a special meeting if you guys want to do it. I just have to look at the rules to see how long I think I need to just use

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Sarah Wauters: twenty four hours notice for a special meeting. But why don't we do that? I'll do a special meeting, and then you guys can bury, if you can just draft a short email to me to tell me what the problems are with that plan. Um: The one

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, The one fact that you can't plant any trees. I mean, that's ridiculous. Yeah, there's so little benefit for the expenditure of time and money. Yeah, and more concrete, it's just yeah,

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Janin Paine: if we can focus Also, if we're going to talk about the problems we could talk about the solutions.

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Sarah Wauters: Yes,

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Barry Campion: well, I mean, of course, I mean, obviously. But

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Barry Campion: but if someone erroneously sat in that meeting. I think it was a City Council office that said, Oh, it's a ten-foot per quid We can get all size trees, and it's no it's a ten foot parkway and sidewalk

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Barry Campion: for mine. So there was just a lot of misinformation in that meeting, and they just it was a two-motion meeting. They you know. They just quickly went through it, and

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Janin Paine: it but aren't we aren't. They supposed to submit those things ahead of time. So people

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Janin Paine: isn't that, like the number. One thing they have to do.

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Sarah Wauters: Is it true? Is it true that the motion wasn't on the agenda?

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Sarah Wauters: It's not on the agenda that they might pass the motion, but the motion actually wasn't There she prepared the motion ahead of time, and had it ready to go, and it was very lengthy.

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Isabelle Duvivier: It was very well thought out,

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah, and we haven't even. I don't even know what it says,

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Janin Paine: but it never. But our committee never had a chance to look at it.

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Sarah Wauters: No,

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Barry Campion: no, no, no! Did Evna or I mean the other community players did. We were sort of blindsided that it even came up to the Vnc. When it did so there was no it was asked during the meeting to Kate, you know.

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Barry Campion: Would you like to present it? It's like we don't have anything to present, you know. That's like that's emotion's invalid

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Sarah Wauters: emotion is invalid right or the valid, I mean, she said, her piece. But compared to what Devon did. It was like, Wow! How long did you prepare?

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Sarah Wauters: She had, like a timeline of all the times they had had all of her points made every single issue they had dressed and hermeable, paving it's better than concrete.

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Isabelle Duvivier: The permission of a paving is the stuff that we're trying to remove all over our trees. It's not great stuff.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah. Well, that's great.

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Sarah Wauters: We've been trying to get rid of not any softer under your feet if you're jogging

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Sarah Wauters: Well, not only that, but it's also it doesn't actually absorb water.

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Janin Paine: It's not really permeable

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Sarah Wauters: it's not it's not permeable. It's semi-permeable and it doesn't allow for growth, Kate, would you like to contribute?

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kate scanlon-double: Uh, yeah. Can you hear me?

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Sarah Wauters: Yes, yeah,

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kate scanlon-double: I don't want to repeat anything that's been said. It's all been accurate. But

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kate scanlon-double: but that was the puzzling thing is um, and I know Jim Works has because I've seen him there at the tree playing the treat paintings, and you know what's been going on, and he's passionate about that. But he seemed to be confused because he was

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kate scanlon-double: champion. The fact of the permeable concrete, and it's it's durability, or you know it's ability to

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kate scanlon-double: clean and absorbed the water for years and years and years, and so that was confusing. And And again, It's just the that they did not even discuss their parking and transportation committee. They even talk about the eight eight Medians concrete medians, not one eight of them

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kate scanlon-double: that are going to line up against the the parallel to the curve of the pathway, you know, and no discussion of what's better. In fact, kind of like the opinion

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kate scanlon-double: was like, Well, this is the best the city can offer where it's like

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kate scanlon-double: the whole purpose of being a community that is trying to seek itself in the the intelligence behind actions to take for climate, adaptability, and our survival is to push against and to push for the best answer. When you know better you do better, or you push those who are in control to do better. So to settle

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kate scanlon-double: not always the best thing, and just to say, Oh, there! The authority they know best. Let's go there. Oh, we're up against.

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kate scanlon-double: So let me just jump in here. I think that there is a key, and the key is, you have to have your alternative ready. Yes, of course.

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Sarah Wauters: So so I think that I will. I'll go ahead and send out a notice for a special meeting, and I will also um in In the action of doing that I have to

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Sarah Wauters: alert gym that we're having a special meeting to to challenge the validity of the motion,

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Sarah Wauters: and to um

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Sarah Wauters: to move for greater

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Sarah Wauters: um review of the city's plan.

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kate scanlon-double: I I will say that Jim sort of said that, he said. There's no reason to rush this. So that was correcting. He seemed to think this should be with that more carefully. There's no reason to rush in, so I think he would be very open to us. Having a meeting

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Sarah Wauters: they had. He voted for it.

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Barry Campion: Yes, he voted on the plan.

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kate scanlon-double: Well, he got out through it, probably because he didn't have an alternative. He didn't see an organized enough alternative that was going to, but they could have postponed it to give everybody time to review it like a bunch of people didn't even know that they were really

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Sarah Wauters: yeah, they just they really had no idea what they didn't know like they knew nothing about the project. They just they

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kate scanlon-double: well saw drawings. I just saw a line drawings that the city done. Nobody looked at the drawings to see where the bike paths were. Nobody understood anything. There were no

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Sarah Wauters: right, so it's your word for it.

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Sarah Wauters: I do think a list of the specifics with regard to why this plan is not an optimal plan would be really useful for you, Berry. And yes,

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Sarah Wauters: but on a on a technical level, right like the basic. Yep.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So we don't have an alternative plan.

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Sarah Wauters: Well, here's the interesting thing. The alternative plan was to take the the now no parking area and actually widen the whole strip.

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Barry Campion: You can have fifteen feet of land to work with.

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Barry Campion: But the problem with that, and it became a

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Barry Campion: a huge issue for the Rose Penmark folks, because they can't imagine

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Barry Campion: that idea, because they and understandably so, they are just terrified of encampments, so the idea of making it wider. They just see a tent city forming immediately,

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Barry Campion: and you can't argue against that. I mean they are very passionate about what they went through, and how terrifying it was. So that became kind of a lightning rod between the groups that we were saying, Our plan is best, but they couldn't even really entertain comfortably

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Barry Campion: on any level. The idea of widening that. And to my way of thinking, if that could happen, you have multiple opportunities for better planting better trees and also design elements that could discourage in campus.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay,

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Sarah Wauters: yeah, let's leave the Let's leave that this wider conversation. It looks like no well needs to say something. Go ahead.

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Noel Johnston: I I do think that if we're going to have a special meeting, we Ah, Ah, Janine is right. We've got a We've got to propose something other than just saying what's wrong with their plan. We've got it. We've got to have um alternatives that we think are feasible to believe in

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Noel Johnston: are practical. I think I think. Um, it would be great if we had. Ah the copy for their for their um. The motion that was passed through Luke, do we have this? Is it in their minutes, anywhere? Are there minutes posted?

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Sarah Wauters: Got to be posted? I Haven't looked. But I will.

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Noel Johnston: Okay, So it looks. They are posted or they're not. I know. I'm wondering. I'm wondering if they posted if it was

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Noel Johnston: Apparently they just posted it as a as a motion a motion could be made, and that there there is no copy available to us of exactly what motion was was Ah approved. I wonder if we can get that before we have our special meeting.

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Noel Johnston: Okay, i'll try it. It's important that we know what we said. So I say, goodbye.

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Noel Johnston: Do you have it, Barry?

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Barry Campion: No, I'm just saying I have to sign off. And so just let me know about the meeting, and i'll email you, Sarah. I was just gonna ask Mary before she goes if there's an opportunity for us to actually redesign the project at all

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Isabelle Duvivier: like I was thinking. If we put the double bike lane over by the golf course, then we might be able to shift all the

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Isabelle Duvivier: parking over which would give us room for a central median,

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Barry Campion: because we couldn't put that.

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Janin Paine: Maybe that's a conversation to the new Councilman, because right now, as far as what the City staff tells us it's a done deal. We have asked them all widening, and there's always an express that really doesn't. Add up for me. I was wondering if your team could come up with a new design.

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Barry Campion: Uh well, given time, and you know resources, sure. Well, maybe we should just ask for an extension.

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Janin Paine: I wanted to mention one aspect that I can that came up in the meeting is the transition to parks and recreation, and that seemed to me that that Rose group was in favor of that, too, because it

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andreas: addresses their homelessness issue,

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andreas: and for us it would get at least rid of the concrete, because the Ada

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andreas: concern is not the same with parks and recreation of Parliament.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah. So so that might be an answer of the

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Sarah Wauters: um, transferring the land to wreck and parks first, and then dealing with the design issues, because I guess

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Janin Paine: I think so, because there's time that yeah, they have some. There's something about parts of the rest. That's how they're getting on. It's how they're not on the boardwalk anymore.

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kate scanlon-double: That that's correct. That's correct. They have ah enforcement um ah rights on on their land, and just as far as a Noel asked about the motion, as I recall. And Isabel, you might remember um after Devon was done with her presentation.

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kate scanlon-double: It was more or less who agrees with the plan?

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kate scanlon-double: I didn't actually hear a motion? It was like I agree with the plan. So they took a vote, and, as is their right, two of their members never said one word about it, asked one question about plan nothing. It was really so cursory.

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kate scanlon-double: So I worry about their understanding as everyone else does, because, you know, as you all know, reading plans unless you're used to it, unless you do it with a trained eye. It's tricky, it's, and they can be misleading, and and even that you don't know what the trained. I then you don't even know what questions to raise my time. So

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Noel Johnston: I do. You have all set of plans.

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kate scanlon-double: Yeah, they are available. Yeah,

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kate scanlon-double: where there are any plans. I think I think maybe we could get them to you

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kate scanlon-double: because everyone should have their eye on it, because then it's just it. Just lets you open to that understanding of

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kate scanlon-double: with both those plans to meet,

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kate scanlon-double: I will post them on to our website.

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kate scanlon-double: Yeah, Terrific

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Sarah Wauters: Hold on, Android. Do you still have your hand up. Are you okay? You're done Okay, I know. Well, you've taken your hand up to me. You have your real hand up.

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Janin Paine: Yeah. Well, I can put the yellow hand up. Um!

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Janin Paine: Ah! I was thinking. It sounds like that. There was a butting of heads kind of thing between whoever Barry was talking with, and these people other people, and i'm wondering if there's any point in reaching out to them. I don't want to blind side them necessarily with it, or they're just completely and

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Janin Paine: entrenched in their view. And that's

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kate scanlon-double: right. I mean, I think, actually part of their strategy was to blinds the other the opposing. So you know, I think really what we need to do is have a special meeting. Make a motion, send the motion to the Vnc. And let the Vnc. Um, you know. Let the Vnc. Know that we believe the motion, whatever motion they made is not valid because it wasn't in their agenda, and it left people who opposed that plan

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Sarah Wauters: completely unable to effectively find it.

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Janin Paine: Yeah, I mean, I think maybe we can show pictures of like, What which country is it Pakistan? Somebody is two over three underwater. I mean. It's just absurd to be doing anything

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Janin Paine: other than that. Have water sources. Right? I mean It's it's right now so, and they think it's growing more and more that it's. Really, this is not forty years ago, when those tree huggers were talking about

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Janin Paine: whatever greenhouse effect. You know this is happening now, and they think people kind of got to get that.

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Sarah Wauters: There's also a guardian article about the super floods in California. Exactly. It's coming,

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Sarah Wauters: Isabelle.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I just wanted to clarify, Maybe with Kate. I think I may have misspoke the motion that that woman had ready that was was up for

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Isabelle Duvivier: this discussion, or was it for the Venice Boulevard? One

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kate scanlon-double: It was for the venice boulevard. Ok. So if they didn't actually have like a one multi-page motion, it would run off the cup motion of we support the project. I was presented right. Ok, So I missed

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kate scanlon-double: Yeah. And what I wanted to add, I just don't want to miss again. I don't like I won't mislead anybody um we evan um was on this um earlier. He reached out to us to say, Hey, there will be a discussion,

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kate scanlon-double: you know, to to to to us, to Evna, to Paul and Kate, so we knew it was going to be a discussion.

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kate scanlon-double: You know. We knew they were going to talk about it. Okay, but

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kate scanlon-double: and I brought it to heaven. We just found that they had thought I was going to do a presentation. I wanted them to dive into the details. I didn't think they were just going to take her vote on the You know

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Isabelle Duvivier: what the presentation was from that group. I thought they were going to actually like, discuss it and look at the drawings and get to know the projects because they're the Transportation Committee.

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kate scanlon-double: So I have a question from you guys, What What section of the meeting was this all discussed in, because I might go ahead and look at the recording. But I don't want to have to look at

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Sarah Wauters: six hours to the very end. It was in the.

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Sarah Wauters: It takes a long time to put the recordings up the minutes aren't up yet, but on one of the meetings the last Transportation Committee meeting. It took him almost two weeks to get the recording up. I see. Okay,

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kate scanlon-double: um, and just Fyi la Dot and their um Venice Boulevard plan took a long time to discuss when you say almost an hour is about, I mean we had a presentation. There was a lot of Q. A. And then that long um discussion about that created that

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kate scanlon-double: halfway through, I'd say, but they would. They were the only two items they that happened.

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kate scanlon-double: Okay, Okay, great bird, you have your hand up.

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DEBORAH BIRD: Yeah. So I just had a question about this whole idea of transferring to Parks and wreck. Aaron mentioned that to Aaron darling, and that he right away, he said. I support that. And it seemed to be the backbone of what his approach to this.

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DEBORAH BIRD: How is that idea being discussed. And how is it being either supported or rejected by the different neighborhood groups?

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kate scanlon-double: Okay, so initially, those people who lived closest. That was their initiative, you know they pushed for that because they knew about the the rights to enforcement that the parks and the department has.

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kate scanlon-double: So. Ah! When they were ah petitioning bonnin to ah close that encampment. That was the thrust of their argument. It's like return the path to the community, and at the same time please turn over that land

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kate scanlon-double: from the streets department to parks and wreck, so that we can ensure no future encampment. Then Bonnets people went as far as, and I want to say. It was this past December. They had taken it to city council, and we have paperwork on it to

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kate scanlon-double: to ask. They approved the investigation by public words to see my Public Works Department to see oh, who actually has jurisdiction,

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kate scanlon-double: you know, As if that was in question, because apparently it was. However, I did a little research on the application for the transfer, you know, almost two years ago, and anyone can do the application. And it did say, you know it often takes two years, I mean it might have been done by now. So

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kate scanlon-double: um! But you know, of course everything is stronger If you have your council person behind it, because that sort of move would probably go before the whole board. You know it would go through the Land News community at the city council, and that would go through both

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Noel Johnston: for the board in general. So right now, when we press the city numerous times since last fall to? Where is What's the status? Where is it in the process?

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kate scanlon-double: And all we got is? Ah, you know these things take time, but but you know a distinct answer. So, as far as we know, no application has ever been made. It was only a directive to ah public works to investigate the jurisdiction, and it seems from street. Ah, la dot!

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kate scanlon-double: And streets. Ah, la! Ah! That whenever they do a student improvement it it it it triggers pouring concrete for a sidewalk. And, Kate, that's that's what's triggered if they said, Oh, well, we're doing a street improvement. So it went from a plan just restore the pathway

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kate scanlon-double: to. They already were going to repaid the street to like. Oh, well, let's

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kate scanlon-double: double up, and now it's been over designed as a big fight. Safety Street and Enhancement Improvement Project. It really grew to over half a million dollars, you know, because it kind of locked all this stuff into it and freighted it with a street improvement which then opened up.

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kate scanlon-double: You know the the envelope for them to come and pave there, which had never, you know, in decades, decades, and decades. So, even without Parks and Iraq, one of our arguments is, you know,

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kate scanlon-double: not just anecdotally, but physically, and in reality for over five decades. And I've only been here forty plus years. I don't go back to other folks like me, Even Aaron's death, is It's been a a natural path for running jogging. So it's this history, this record of recreational use.

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kate scanlon-double: And when folks in the city government say you know, yes, want to do the best for the community things to rise up by the community. Take that into consideration

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kate scanlon-double: that seems to be nowhere, that the Ada compliance issue has overridden it. Where the nuance is that around Brent would Country Club? Ah, they have a dirt path, and they certainly have worked on those streets.

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kate scanlon-double: So you're saying that once it became a street project that the La Streets folks immediately say, Oh, if we, if we went ahead and passed the land to reckon parts before that was her, then a completely different

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Sarah Wauters: design process would be engaged.

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kate scanlon-double: I think that's a strong possibility. Yes,

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kate scanlon-double: yes; but but see but the work around that, you know, because if that's two years hence, or not even in the picture, because once you lay that concert, you've done the damage correct, well, you have to put it up, and no one's going to. And exactly so. What I say is, well, let's treat this reality. I mean, look at the Brentwood Country Club path. Not only, and we also did a research.

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kate scanlon-double: Um. Barry did it, maybe as well as part of that is that L. A. County in La City have many. Ada approved Dg: Paths, and they're generally in what what Bond's office kept saying,

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kate scanlon-double: Yeah, Oh, that's recreational. That's recreational.

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kate scanlon-double: Yeah, Well, we get it. But you have allowed it. And do you not see the correlation that this has been used for recreational,

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kate scanlon-double: I not believe, do not see what the genesis of this community uses, and to like Don't, you know. Yes, there's this whole process of getting the park to approve it. But do you not see it for what it really is and has been, and what we'd like it to remain so

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kate scanlon-double: And that's why we think they're just over-designing it, hurting the environment in the process, and negating the fact of their own green policies, which is, you know, just schizophrenia.

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kate scanlon-double: All right. Ok, i'm going to have to cut you off, Kate. One lower. We're going to have a special meeting on this. So there's really no point in

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Sarah Wauters: going through all of the facts. Now I do want to gather all of the hard pieces. So I do want you to send me the plan, and I want to gather if you have anything about the Ada Um, approved Dg: Path. That would be great. Um! So that we can have all of that information, and i'll i'll put it up on the website so that you guys can observe it from the Vnc website. Third, one last thing, and then i'd like us to go ahead and adjourn.

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DEBORAH BIRD: Oh, no, that was old.

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Sarah Wauters: That was owned. Okay, Yeah.

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Sarah Wauters: Good. So lower by that. I think we can close out. Now we can adjourn unless there are any last-minute announcements,

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Sarah Wauters: announcements. Oh, No, ell! You're muted.

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Noel Johnston: What do we need to get our suggestions? Not for the special meeting, but for the next meeting, and to get them on the agenda.

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Sarah Wauters: You can do that. We normally. We try to do it during a meeting, but you can go ahead and email me suggestions we do have for our next meeting. So for you guys now, Tracy Park will be asked the same question as Aaron Darling. So we're going to be able to kind of compare and contrast the two candidates. I don't know if she'll go, she'll be as lengthy as Aaron's presentation. Um! But if you have other things that you'd like to get on the agenda. Please let me know when I can comment.

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Great thanks.

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Sarah Wauters: Anyone can email me.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay

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Sarah Wauters: and announcements. I think we are going to water this weekend eight o'clock in the morning. What is the location where i'm meeting? Eric?

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Noel Johnston: Noel. I don't know. I think we're meeting.

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Sarah Wauters: I think we're meeting on sunset and seventh.

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Noel Johnston: Is it seven where those cassias are? Okay, where the cassias are like ready in between, and the cork oaks on the other side,

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but I think they both are.

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Noel Johnston: I texted both of them because I suggested that they may be split up the island. Oaks could probably use some wiping down

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Sarah Wauters: um. A lot of them are very city, so we kind of need two groups, but it just depends on how many people show up. It'd be good to go two different ways.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, I just wanted to make an announcement because Eric's not here. That's all.

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Noel Johnston: No, that it

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Noel Johnston: great. I just thought he was pulling it together. I didn't know, Sarah.

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Noel Johnston: I'm I'm. Uh I thought you did a great job on today's meeting. It was very

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Noel Johnston: Oh, thank you, really good, Thank you. And the questions were over.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh, good, thank you. Well, I'm glad that we kind of got. There was enough time, and he seemed to be open to kind of branching into some of the things that I think are a little more thorny for him like Penmar and Venice, Dell and Jefferson. Those were the hard questions.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, folks. Ah, thank you very much for a journey. It's one hundred and thirteen and um, Whatever notes you have no else. Please let me know. I really didn't take a lot. So i'm going to have a hard time doing the minutes.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, Thank you.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, Have a great day, everyone.

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kate scanlon-double: Thank you. Thank you for pulling out that guys. Of course it's a very nice job.

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Sarah Wauters: Thanks. Everyone

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Sarah Wauters: Have a great day, bye,