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james murez: For you a dollar hang on with,

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and it's

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your finger.

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james murez: You guys have to accept

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james murez: being promoted to panelists,

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Sarah Wauters: and now I don't

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Sarah Wauters: now I can't hear you.

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Sarah Wauters: Are you on your phone now? I can hear you. There is another person.

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Sarah Wauters: Is there another person?

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Sarah Wauters: Well, there's yeah, there's an attendee waiting to come in. That's Sarah Waters. Are you on your Are you on your phone as well?

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Sarah Wauters: I'm on my other. I'm actually that sucks.

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Sarah Wauters: So

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Isabelle Duvivier: It's probably Okay.

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Sarah Wauters: I don't know how to let people in. I'm letting people in.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay,

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Isabelle Duvivier: You go to the bottom of the screen and you click on participants,

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Sarah Wauters: and it pulls up

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Isabelle Duvivier: the list of participants

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Isabelle Duvivier: on attendees

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Sarah Wauters: right? Right right now. You're the only attendee.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay. So can you let me in? Yeah, you can can you promote me as a panelist on my other computer? Let me see.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Uh-huh.

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Me?

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Isabelle Duvivier: Well, it's weird. Because it's coming from.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Would you come in via zoom.

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Sarah Wauters: I basically came in via zoom on both computers, because it wasn't working on the computer. I'd prefer. So I was like, Well, i'll try my newer computer. Maybe I need an update or something.

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Sarah Wauters: So I came over here and he let me in on the small computer. It's fine. I'll just be on a small computer. I'm gonna i'm gonna leave the meeting on my other computer. Okay?

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Sarah Wauters: Then i'll just use my other computer as my my note taking

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It's a small thing, you know. I can't take notes on, because I can't.

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Sarah Wauters: You know It's not big enough.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay. I'll put his full screen.

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Sarah Wauters: Well, I hope somebody else comes, but you know everybody's accustomed to it taking so long.

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Sarah Wauters: Um,

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Sarah Wauters: you know I attended a at least I don't feel discriminated against. I I attended the neighborhood Committee this morning. I don't really get what the Neighborhood Committee does. It complains.

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Yeah, but they're they're basically.

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Hello! There.

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Sarah Wauters: Well,

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Sarah Wauters: I am good. But you know what i'm in the middle of a meeting. Is this Patty? Did you say?

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Sarah Wauters: Excellent confirmed?

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Sarah Wauters: Thank you.

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Sarah Wauters: I thought that might be one of our attendees because I didn't recognize the telephone number. That's why I picked it up.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay,

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah. So we know Barry's not coming. Janine's not coming.

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Isabelle Duvivier: No, Well, it's going to try to come from

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Isabelle Duvivier: Peter's computer,

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Isabelle Duvivier: but she's never tried it before

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Isabelle Duvivier: so much as you and I, and we can just chat.

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Sarah Wauters: So Let's remember that we're we're being recorded when we're chatting.

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Sarah Wauters: Michael is coming. Michael was one of the people who very early on said he wanted it to be this Friday instead. Text him and see.

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Sarah Wauters: Yes,

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Sarah Wauters: it's interesting. So the neighborhood that the Neighborhood Committee was not very well attended either, so so no. Well, said. She's trying to attend from

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, Heather heather, said she's not coming,

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Sarah Wauters: so there's a lot of folks that are not. I know It's I didn't realize it was Labor Day, like Labor Day is just one of those things. I just don't pay that much attention to.

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Sarah Wauters: And um, so

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Sarah Wauters: that's why um!

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Sarah Wauters: It's harder for me to compute. Oh, yeah, Most people are going to go out of town, and they'll be gone starting Friday,

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Sarah Wauters: anyway. So um

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Sarah Wauters: the June minutes were posted. We can't do any business until we have a quorum.

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Isabelle Duvivier: How many quorum

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Sarah Wauters: where i'm as you are,

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Sarah Wauters: and um

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Sarah Wauters: say

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Sarah Wauters: promise for. So that's why I said to know. Well, I need you to come, Mm-hmm but she didn't tell me that she might have difficulty. Said she was coming Mm-hmm so anyway, So I texted Michael.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, we'll see what he says. Anyway, you and I can chat. I'll tell you a little bit about the neighborhood meeting this morning.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Oh, yeah, do that.

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Sarah Wauters: There's only four people. And so she said, You know what, since we just don't have that much of an attendance, let's do your big

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Sarah Wauters: presentation later. We're going to do it October the ninth instead. But it was good because I actually want to.

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Sarah Wauters: I wanted to talk to Teresa Mayonette about the slides, and then I also wanted to pull some information from the most.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh, i'm sorry I don't have my video on. I'm sorry

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Isabelle Duvivier: I was eating,

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Isabelle Duvivier: but I didn't mean that my video off.

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Sarah Wauters: That's okay. You were eating it. I was just noticing that My, my stomach was growling.

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Sarah Wauters: I'm like I took it something to eat, too. Hear me eating.

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Sarah Wauters: I can tell that you're eating.

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Isabelle Duvivier: You could tell I was eating, even though the camera was off.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, it changes the way you speak.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Oh, okay, because you don't have me all around. Oh, here's Gary Yay. Hi, Barry.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Okay. Now let me see if I can figure out how to let her in. This is always Let's see. How do I let her in?

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Sarah Wauters: And Michael Michael says he's going to be,

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Sarah Wauters: and fives.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I can't quite figure out how to let her in,

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Isabelle Duvivier: and always it's always a little tricky.

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Sarah Wauters: You've been so good at it in the past, I know. But for some reason today it was weird.

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Sarah Wauters: Can you see if you can figure it out because we can both do it, since we're both.

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Sarah Wauters: I didn't know. Okay,

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Sarah Wauters: I don't even. I used to just right click on her name, and it would say, Invite attendee

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Sarah Wauters: Um, Huh!

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Sarah Wauters: It's she's not showing up for me, or you go to a ten base. I'm in attendees. Oh, here we go, Mary Campion, allow you.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh, you got it. Okay, Maybe you need to allow me to let people in. Yeah, I'm disabled

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Isabelle Duvivier: a

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Sarah Wauters: There we go. So here she is.

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Sarah Wauters: Hi, Barry, can you hear us?

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Sarah Wauters: You're on me. It's

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Sarah Wauters: I know you must miss us so much. Oh, I did. Oh, I do

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Sarah Wauters: so. Are you

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Sarah Wauters: you? So much is going on? Oh, my God, no! Are you in Washington?

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Barry Campion: Yes, we're actually in the house.

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Sarah Wauters: This apartment that we um was above the garage. It was this open space that we made into an apartment, so they were able to get it ready

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Sarah Wauters: over there. Okay, hold on,

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Isabelle Duvivier: that's fantastic,

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Isabelle Duvivier: and they're beautiful.

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Sarah Wauters: The weather's gorgeous. I know it has kind of a long way to go, but we're just happy that we can be here. So

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Isabelle Duvivier: yeah, yeah, there's Michael Mcguffin,

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Isabelle Duvivier: but I don't know why i'm not able to let people in. Sarah, you have to let Michael in.

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Isabelle Duvivier: This is why, when you watch the Vnc. You think it's like a comedy show, but In fact, it's challenging to run a meeting on zoom, especially when it's someone else's account.

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Barry Campion: Yeah,

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Isabelle Duvivier: Are you trying to let Michael in,

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Isabelle Duvivier: Sarah? Can you hear me. Oh, you're on mute. By the way,

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Isabelle Duvivier: Okay, Got it? Okay.

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Barry Campion: So um! How's it going at the school?

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Sarah Wauters: My God! So much chaos I was there today. The guys are out there. The trees are mostly in the ground. That's kind of exciting

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Sarah Wauters: Michael's here. Hi, Michael,

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Sarah Wauters: Thanks for coming up to quorum.

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Sarah Wauters: We have a quorum, and actually it doesn't look like we have. So here's the thing I don't. I don't immediately see when attendees are trying to come in. I can tell you. Okay, These do what I'm just ignoring everyone. I don't know. You know

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Sarah Wauters: you. You can turn off the button that requires you to allow people in

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Isabelle Duvivier: you can't. This is the Vnc zoom link we can do. I

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Isabelle Duvivier: very well. As I, as I've said before, bureaucracies are bureaucratic.

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Sarah Wauters: They are. That's That's why that adjective is so apt.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh, my gosh! Well, we have a interstate group today.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, that's right. Wonderful. So I think. Let's see, we're already at eleven, thirty, nine. So we've been an inter island group right

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Sarah Wauters: to the guy. One

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Barry Campion: What's that?

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Barry Campion: We're on the big highlights the Turtle Island right? That's what the native people called the North America Turtle Island.

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Sarah Wauters: Did they really? They call the Turtle Island? Some Some did. Yes,

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Sarah Wauters: I wonder why.

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Sarah Wauters: Well, there's A. There's a story that the earth came from. The Turtle

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Sarah Wauters: rose up, and his back was the I've read the story, and I can't quite remember how it goes, but the turtle is all about.

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Sarah Wauters: So can you guys hear my background noise, or

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Isabelle Duvivier: there's not

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Sarah Wauters: She's walked around. That's good.

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Sarah Wauters: Um. Okay. So I guess we can get started. We

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Sarah Wauters: I've got my My note-taking ability is the

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Sarah Wauters: right here, and I just wanted to so roll call Sarah Isabel. Mark is not here. Noel is not here yet. We're hoping to come. Barry, you're here, and Michael is here,

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Sarah Wauters: and Jim was here momentarily.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay. So

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Sarah Wauters: I

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Sarah Wauters: put up the June minutes. I don't imagine any of you guys have had a chance to review them. But um! Would you like to go ahead and adopt those minutes, Or do you want to wait until we have a chance to review them?

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Barry Campion: Okay, we move to a dot move to adopt the

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Sarah Wauters: do. I have a second.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Thank you.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay,

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Sarah Wauters: Thank you. Okay. So we now have public comment. Does anyone want to just switch over to being the public and comment,

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Sarah Wauters: I could. Um, I think i'm going to just say what I have to say for my report.

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Sarah Wauters: Um, so i'll go ahead and start um the The main thing that happened was that we got the Mulch pile a range which was great, and all of you guys should know This that the multi-pile was put into the park.

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Sarah Wauters: It's in between those streets Warren Street, Commonwealth,

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Sarah Wauters: and the end of Pmr. And so we put two loads, two big old loads in there, and we have a key that we have to use in order to get in to get the mulch out,

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Sarah Wauters: and that he is with Saul Jansen, who is essentially the in charge of the Park. So does anybody have any questions about that?

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah. I mean, I would love it if we could talk him into putting another. We could make a key and put another lock box over by the source, because it's really problematic with all the circulation on Lincoln Boulevard. It's really problematic to send someone like Peter over there to go get the key from his mailbox and go all the way around the block to get to that. So I know now that we're kind of like we with him. I love it. If

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Sarah Wauters: one of us could try to navigate that, and maybe not take his one on only cave, but maybe make a copy. Okay, I am.

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Sarah Wauters: I kind of floated that with him, and he was like, No, it's just It's always in my mailbox.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Eric and he had a really good connection, and

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Barry Campion: I have a good connection with Saul because I've been helping them try to

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Barry Campion: get that work done with all the damage that the Dwp and I've been just giving them advice, such as Don't. Let them plant in the summer. Don't let them, you know, just giving them some solid guidelines. So it's when they do get the work done, it's successful. But yeah, I'm happy to say something

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Sarah Wauters: right? Okay, that's great on that note. If it is difficult

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Barry Campion: problematic to get the mulch, I think when we were working at Gold's Gym:

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Barry Campion: I floated the idea of like sort of having a mulch day where that's all we would do, and just get a big load of mulch and go to as many sites as possible, and just do that, and then, rather than bits at a time.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Ah, Sarah, while there's no else trying to get in.

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Sarah Wauters: Ok, so would you rather I raise my hand, so I don't have to interrupt your gas. I'll just kind of raise my hand.

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Sarah Wauters: Someone's trying to get in. It's weird. It's It's It's actually what I was. Oh, here we go. You may have called. There we go.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, There we go.

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Yeah. So it's a

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Sarah Wauters: Now, how are you with us?

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Noel Johnston: I am. I'm sorry about that, My ah computer, We we weren't getting any service here at auction for a walk. None of my neighbors were either, but it just came back on

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Sarah Wauters: great. Okay?

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Sarah Wauters: Well, we were just. I'm going to be taking notes while we're. So don't think i'm rude because i'm looking in another direction.

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Sarah Wauters: My other computer is here. This is what provides me with my beautiful lighting. Okay, so very flow to the idea of doing mulch days exclusively mulch days, so that because getting into the multiall is a little bit more, you know,

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Sarah Wauters: it's congratulating

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Sarah Wauters: right challenging. We just you know, get ourselves a truck or borrow trucks. And do you know, just mulch days? The only issue I see with that is that we also be

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Sarah Wauters: order to get a space clear for the mulch. But maybe that's not

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Sarah Wauters: significant.

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Michael McGuffin: I think I think it's very significant.

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Michael McGuffin: I think you have to break the soil.

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Michael McGuffin: Uh to make the use of the mult most

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Michael McGuffin: beneficial. Okay,

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Michael McGuffin: open to other ideas. But I

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Barry Campion: I think so. Maybe we prep. You know we prep for the mulch, which we kind of do a bit of any

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Barry Campion: and n

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Sarah Wauters: it so many sites and go. Okay, we're gonna focus on weeding. And this is a good time of year to do that. So

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Sarah Wauters: So maybe maybe one one Saturday we do the weeding, and then the next Saturday we do the mulching.

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Sarah Wauters: Does that work? Do you think

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Isabelle Duvivier: well can I offer up that this weekend tomorrow? We're going to be doing a lot of mulching, and we have a truck, and I have some new bags. I bought myself some green bags. We have Noel's bags,

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Isabelle Duvivier: so tomorrow might be a test for how that works, and how many people you need. And then so on our mulch day, maybe we can have half the people waiting and half the people mulching, because we don't need like ten people.

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Barry Campion: That's right. A faulting, I think so. Let's um see how it works out tomorrow, because tomorrow we need a lot of malls, and so we're going to spend a whole day mulching It'll be kind of like a practice mold day, and we'll see if we get all in each other's feet

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Sarah Wauters: because I couldn't I had. It was just me and one other person. It was me and Luca and and I didn't get enough. Mulch:

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, for the day that we were doing gold. We needed more. And so it really does need probably maybe five or six people to really shovel. Fill the bags, fill the truck, and then the other thing is that you do have to have a truck just a tiny little, you know. Kind of

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Isabelle Duvivier: a sheet. I draw a drop cloth, so that when we're done we can just pick up the remainder, and the the only problem with this site that we're going to tomorrow is we can't just empty out. Well, I guess we could.

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Sarah Wauters: We can actually deliver the pickup truck to where we need it. So we're still gonna have to take the bags and walk them about a hundred feet. Okay, hold on, i'm sorry i'm letting Eric in. I just

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Eric: you guys, I i'm on my phone because I i'm having some problem on the Internet with my computer for some strange reason

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Sarah Wauters: a lot of a lot of technical difficulties today. Barry is in the State of Washington, and she's also having a just so, you know, very when you speak your little broken up. So you know, it's just the Internet wants to take a break and have Labor Day early.

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Sarah Wauters: So we were in the middle of talking about the multi-file. It was just forty of the ultraviolet's been established. So thank you for your participation at that. And we also actually your name came up because we were like Well, I had already asked.

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Sarah Wauters: Saul is a very old friend of mine, I mean he's like my brother honestly, which sometimes your siblings will refuse easily, Right?

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Eric: Yeah. So I asked him. Hey, can we put a lock box over by the mulch file? And he said, Well, it's always in my mailbox. He is in his mailbox.

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Sarah Wauters: The easiest way is just to go to his house, pick up the key, and then go through the alley that leads down to Rose, and then from around that way.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah. So you don't have to like, go left on that, I say, Oh, I say, okay,

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, let's let's move on to the next thing. Um. So the other thing that I have to report on I have a couple of other things. But um! This one is that we booked both Aaron Darling and Tracy part come and speak to us, so we kind of have to promote our meeting a little bit more, and that's kind of. I understand that it's really my responsibility. But I am reaching out to all of you guys. I think we should

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Sarah Wauters: um go ahead and put together each of us an email list to a broader bunch of folks.

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Sarah Wauters: Um, because we're only having a very casual Q. And A. With each of the candidates, and they're not going to be on the same day, so it's not a candidate forum. It's just a conversation. Um! And hoping that we don't get shut down.

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Sarah Wauters: I mean, what do you think of this idea? We could just say It's a Bbg Forum instead of the barb for it.

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Sarah Wauters: and then we wouldn't use the Vnc. Link.

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Barry Campion: Does that make the meeting less appealing to the two candidates? We don't have that behind us.

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Sarah Wauters: you know I could let them know at that time, but they're both booked, and they're both really excited. I met Aaron Darling at an event this past weekend, and I talked with his staff at that time. And they said, Okay,

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Sarah Wauters: yeah, we're we're down for it.

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Sarah Wauters: Tracy who's obviously already friendly with Bvg: I don't think she would care one way or the other. She she came out to our event at the at Hakla, the Hakla event, so she's very aware of who we are. So she, I think, is interested in coming and speaking with us regardless.

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Noel Johnston: uh Melissa down, and just to ask her if she thinks that we're doing anything that would offend the Bnc. Rather than asking jam.

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Noel Johnston: I know I you know.

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Noel Johnston: I think I think Jim Meres is is Ah, it's definitely in our in our camp and applauds what we're doing. But I just, you know, maybe as President, he feel he couldn't.

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Noel Johnston: Ah, but you can let us do this because it yeah, I think we have to make a general announcement if it's going to be the B. And C. And I and I think you're right about the Bbg: because Abg is is no kind of political for him, and both Tracy and a parents

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Sarah Wauters: right? Right? It's It's nonpartisan, and therefore actually has some,

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Sarah Wauters: Halo let's say because it's non-partisan. Isabel

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Isabelle Duvivier: uh I was just gonna say that you guys know that this meeting is being recorded.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Okay. So you know, people listen to it.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um, Sometimes, maybe. Uh, I don't think he actually posts our meetings or the recordings of our meetings, and it takes him a really long time to post um their meetings. But I've noticed that our meetings Aren't really posted. But um, I guess I would recommend. I don't know

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Barry Campion: forgiveness and not permission. No? Well did you listen to the last Bnc meeting? They had this long discussion about how they can't have a forum. They can't have a town hall. They can't have a workshop.

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Barry Campion: It got very confusing. Nobody exactly knew what the rules were all very confusing, and I think Sarah's approach of just inviting them to come. And then we can ask questions. You know they're they're one of our guests,

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Isabelle Duvivier: but we should. We should put it on the agenda. So other people show up,

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Isabelle Duvivier: and then maybe they say if they see our agenda. They say you can't do that. And then we've learned our lesson and and figure out a workaround like

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Isabelle Duvivier: what you said, which is just to have a vg. Do it.

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Sarah Wauters: We have a Vvg. Meeting instead, and then the bar of meeting for that month. We'll just have It'll be a you know.

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Sarah Wauters: you know a five-minute meeting to to do what we do right. So I think that's fine. I think that that would be the best thing to do, and one of the other things that I wanted to do, and I think later is talk about what questions we'd like to

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, So do you want No? Well to ask Melissa just kind of on the side, or to get

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Isabelle Duvivier: a sense of we're going to get golden or not? Or do you just want to blind?

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Sarah Wauters: Think actually the less that Melissa knows the better? Melissa would be obligated as an officer to report what she learns to the President,

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Sarah Wauters: But what i'm going to do actually, now that we're talking about this is I'm just going to listen to that recording

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Sarah Wauters: the last meeting, and then i'm gonna look at the rules, because if they're just coming as an attendee which they are allowed to do.

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Sarah Wauters: You know we had that guy come. We've had many guest speakers. Yeah, So there's nothing wrong with having a guest speaker. Maybe it's just They're in the same room together that It's something different.

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Sarah Wauters: Um, No? Well, are you still there?

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Noel Johnston: I am. Okay, Good. So booked a report. Oh, the other thing I wanted to let you guys know, and I would like to congratulate. No on this, too, is that when I went to the neighborhood

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Sarah Wauters: Committee this morning, Chuck was very, very appreciative of your efforts to appear before the Coastal Commission, and I wrote a letter at Noel's suggestion, also to the Coastal commission about the sycamore trees on Venice

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Sarah Wauters: that border the Venice del um affordable housing project. I don't think it's affordable housing. I think it's Section eight, whatever. Um, So Ah, he was very happy with, you know. Well, so that's right. And

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Sarah Wauters: and the neighborhood I had gone to the Neighborhood Committee because I was going to make a presentation about the Venice Harbor Committee, and the importance of trees

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Sarah Wauters: because they had such a low attendance lower than hours. In fact, Um, I, they said, Let's let's postpone, and we'll do it October ninth, because we do want all of our members here in order to hear what you have to say. So that was good. And then it'll give me some time to prepare something a little bit more brief and to the point for those books.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay. So, Isabel,

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Sarah Wauters: what have you got to report upon?

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Barry Campion: Um, I could share this email, or I could just tell you about it as you like. Um path. Catherine Patrick Booney, who's a seafax member, has has been hired to grow the plants that are going on the Liberty Canyon Wildlife crossing in Akora Hills, which been started, and so she's setting up for that she sent out a request for support

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Isabelle Duvivier: on specific dates which I could share with you and these earlier. This I would say, this month she's basically just setting up tables.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So it's not as exciting as putting acorns in soil. But if anyone's interested, i'm going to go on Friday, September the ninth, the day before my birthday, from eight Am. To eleven Am.

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Isabelle Duvivier: And she's also got some dates September third, September second, September sixteenth and seventeenth, and then and then following that, she'll have more dates for helping her planting seeds and stuff.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So that's really exciting, and those tables are being set up at the actual crossing. Um, so you'll get ah an opportunity to see where the wildlife crossing is going to start being built soon. I don't think it's been started yet.

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Noel Johnston: It's about i'm sorry. What day was that?

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Isabelle Duvivier: There are several days i'm going to go on September the ninth, at from eight to eleven.

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Sarah Wauters: Actually that just to circle back actually six September sixteenth is the date that Aaron Darling is going to come, and then October twenty first is the day that Tracy Park is going to come, So we should kind of talk these up so that we get all the

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Sarah Wauters: Venice environmentalists we know to come and tend. Okay, Sorry. Back to the wildlife crossing. So is it possible to send out the dates for the wildlife crossing, And the address is about.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Well, how about If you let me share screen, and then everyone can just capture them.

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Sarah Wauters: You can't go for it. You have to enable me. So if you click on share screen, it should say enable other participants or something like that.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Okay. So can you see that?

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, those are the dates right there.

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Isabelle Duvivier: and there there's actually a form. What's that form? Oh, there's a volunteer agreement. Can you see that volunteer agreement that I just opened up?

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Sarah Wauters: No, okay. That's okay. If you want, If you want, i'll send you. I'll email you the volunteer form if you do want to go. Would you like me to enlarge this?

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Sarah Wauters: or you could send it out to the six of us.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Okay. So i'm gonna stop share for one second.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I I have some really good news. I don't know if you recall. But several months ago planning Director Vince Bertoni, basically

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Isabelle Duvivier: just out of the blue on his own, restructured the way the Mulholland design Review Board can review projects, and he eliminated all the projects

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Isabelle Duvivier: that that board would review from anything outside directly outside of the Mulholland corridor. So that meant, ah! Before he had made that change. Ah, the Model and Design Review Board would see all projects that were within a certain area. Can you not hear me, Barry?

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Barry Campion: Okay? Um, because I can put in some airbeds if you can't hear me. Very well. No, I've got noise here, and i'll just

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Isabelle Duvivier: okay. So. Um. So he just on his own, did that without contacting even the Mall and Design Review board themselves, or a Board of Volunteers. That review any development project happening in the mall on design review board

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Isabelle Duvivier: corridor, which is a really large swath of land. So he put a stop to that and The hillside Federation sued him.

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Isabelle Duvivier: The Fuel-side Federation is an umbrella group of different communities in the hillside, and the good news is is that the judge determined that the planning director's action was outside of his authority. So once again the Mall on Design Review Board will now be reviewing all projects within that watershed

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Isabelle Duvivier: Cfac has written a draft letter about the New Zoo project the La Zoo, you probably know. Several months ago they proposed several alternatives. They they

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Isabelle Duvivier: they analyze them in their eir, and none of them are good. They were all just awful, terrible, terrible. They i'm kind of i'm not really an expert at this, but I think it's important enough to to share that information.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So they went back to the drawing board, and they actually hired a sustainability consultant and ecologist. And there's a new version called One Point Five

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Isabelle Duvivier: um, and it's really good. It's much much better. But there's still some problems with it. So Cfac wrote a really great letter. I'm happy to share that with you. We couldn't vote on it yesterday because there were so still some people at C fact that were concerned about the development of sixteen acres.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So basically from the first iteration the first preferred iteration to Now they ended up only redeveloping sixteen acres worth before they were developing a lot greater area, and they were doing.

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Isabelle Duvivier: they were doing ah! An orchard! Ah, almond an olive grove! They were doing like California Mission style habitats, and everyone said no. So they They eliminated that from their proposal.

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Isabelle Duvivier: how they worked the project. But we were still unsure about a few things. So we weren't able to vote on this letter. We're going to Shelly and Catherine are going to continue to work on the letter and really encourage them to do more analysis about sixteen acres to see what's there, what should be there, what what seats might be available, that you can see

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Isabelle Duvivier: um, and then and ask them to hold off in a decision on that area on on that sixteen acres until then. But in the meantime, what we've learned about them is that they do amazing work. A group of C-fac members, not myself, went on a tour of the Zoo with the Zoo staff,

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Isabelle Duvivier: and learned about all of the research. They do the money they spend promoting gorillas in Africa, condors, I mean. Apparently they're they're they're doing really amazing work around ecology, including California ecology. So Cpac was in a position of trying to balance out. You know how hard to be on them, especially when they took a really terrible design, and made it really fantastic.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um! So that's kind of where we're at. So, in fact, What's like? Fifty fifty Do we support them now that they've made this change, or do we? Ah, continue to to, you know. Make this a better project, and at the end of the day we've decided since we were given extra time an extra month.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I'm going to stop my share. If anybody wants copies of a letter i'm happy to share that with you, and that's, I think, all of my report.

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Noel Johnston: Thanks so much. Your reports are always fabulous, Isabelle. I try them and find something interesting in them. Mine is not going to be so interesting,

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Noel Johnston: not true. I want to say that on the eleventh of this month the Coastal Commission had a meeting regarding the

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Noel Johnston: what is being usually referred to as the Venice dell project, and

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Noel Johnston: there were a surprising number of Venetians there who were objecting to the project in general. I spoke for my about two minutes on the fact that we were

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Noel Johnston: a group in a community disappointed in the lack of green space, and particularly in the lack of trees,

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Noel Johnston: and I specifically mentioned the two big people trees that are being taken down. Because, I said, these are the trees that every city wants to have. They're a perfect example of all what is

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Noel Johnston: necessary to cities these days. They're they're a big, ah, beautiful shade providing tree that adds to the neighborhood in so many ways, and that these trees must be safe, and that there were a number of trees on the property that should be saved, but that these trees were a must

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Noel Johnston: I?

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Noel Johnston: I don't know whether I made much of a point or not, but I didn't get a nice call from the Coastal Commission, or who seemed actually, after the fact, interested in what I had to say. So I was kind of encouraged by that

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Noel Johnston: there is going to be another coastal commission meeting. This is more of an ah ah! An announcement, so I mean it should be an announcements rather than where i'm putting it right now. But I'm probably not going to make it till the end of the meeting. Ah, September eighth,

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Noel Johnston: That's a Thursday. There's going to be another coastal commission meeting, and I would urge people to sign up so that they can say something about the

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Noel Johnston: project itself. Ah, specifically I would hope you would talk about the necessary green space in this area, but what they are hoping to do is put this project off for a year.

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Noel Johnston: Ah, and I think that would be a great idea. I don't understand why a project like this did not have to go through a sequel review. I don't get it. Why, so many projects don't have to go through a sequel word, but but sufficient to say that this one

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Noel Johnston: should have gone through a sequel review, and should today be it should be mandatory.

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Noel Johnston: Uh, I want to say that we uh we

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Noel Johnston: uh the Vvg. Had a meeting with basically with the recreation and parks

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Noel Johnston: um on the subject of the dog Park, and Ah, Isabel is putting together a proposal, I hope to ah give a a big help on this, but I've never put together a proposal like this, so I don't really know how to do it. Um

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Noel Johnston: on. Ah, just what should be done. Where in the dog Park, Isabelle? I got a a little note from Ah, ah, Craig Grain, saying that he is sending us that proposal, and he's going to send it to us on Tuesday. They proposed that he thought was a model of what a proposal should look like, and he said he hoped that we would

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Noel Johnston: see fit to send him a draft before he We send it out, I said. Sure, I don't know

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Noel Johnston: if you want to do that or not, but he's been so helpful, I would think we would have no reason not to um. But anyway, that's very encouraging, because, uh, we are finally getting somewhere on the dog park. All of what we've talked about is on the outside of the fence. Nothing on the inside of the fence at the Dog Park.

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Noel Johnston: But I

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Noel Johnston: we are really encouraged by the interest that

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Noel Johnston: Rep has shown on this, and it's more than an interest. I would say it's they're they're supposed to sponsoring us in this in this effort. As long as we're a good proposal. The other thing we talked to them about, of course, was our dune project which they are. They encourage us,

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Noel Johnston: but cannot um endorse us because of um hoops that they would have to jump through themselves. So They were all very encouraging. Nobody said,

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Noel Johnston: nobody said no, everybody encouraged us to do it, and then they

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Noel Johnston: and they all said, Um, but we can't. We can't put our names to this. We can't sign anything, so you'll just sort of have to do it on your own. However, our June project had its first day, As you all know,

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Noel Johnston: I don't know some. I hope you can see me because my windows just disappeared. Can you hear me?

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Noel Johnston: Yeah, I hear you? Yeah, and we can see you.

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Noel Johnston: You can. Well, I can't see you. Um!

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Noel Johnston: Our doom project went well. We had a lot of on to show up we Ah, we did our first um excavation, I guess you'd say between twenty, eight and Twenty Ninth Street um on the beach side of the boardwalk,

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Noel Johnston: and we will. We will be doing more. We also have to get back to um recreation and parks with a little drawing of where we need fencing because they are.

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Noel Johnston: They have agreed to a supplies with fencing, which is cool.

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Noel Johnston: I think I want to just remind everybody that they need to water their trees, and we don't have much of everybody on this

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Noel Johnston: at the same day. But somehow or another, I would like to get the word out that trees need water, and they're probably going to meet it for the next couple of months here. So

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Noel Johnston: if you have any ideas about how to encourage the neighborhood to water their trees. Maybe we um think we should come up with a little Ah, one sheeter for the library and beyond baroque. That might help,

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Noel Johnston: because I I think people are misunderstanding the city's instructions on watering right now. The city is that seems to be very gung. Ho! On watering the trees. They're not gung ho on watering hair ones, or using water that isn't absolutely necessary. I got a statistic on um showers. The average five minute shower uses ten gallons of water we use

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Noel Johnston: ah! Three to five gallons of water only water. Ah, with our watering pig, and I think if we just all took one shower only class. We'd be able to water a lot more trees, anyway. That's it for my thanks.

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Sarah Wauters: I have a thing that I want to add to that, Noel, because when I was at the Neighborhood Committee meeting this morning, Darrell,

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Noel Johnston: I think that's his name. He's a quite older fellow.

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Sarah Wauters: I did get on, and I was speaking with everyone about how everything needs to be watered. And Chuck specifically said, what's going on with

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Sarah Wauters: Centennial Park, and I said, we don't have any.

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Sarah Wauters: We haven't had a new response. We've been asking about what's going on with

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Sarah Wauters: um in the Tunnel Park ourselves and watering those trees. And then Daryl spoke up, and he said, But it's a drought. How much water are you going to be using for the trees? And I said, Well, the city itself is encouraging everyone to continue watering their trees. So I was able to make that point this morning, Noel, but I I actually think that you are right,

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Sarah Wauters: and we should send out. I will this afternoon to everybody that's on our um bar list. Because, even though not everyone comes, they read those emails, and the reason why I know that is because I hear from Robin. I hear from Chuck. I hear from all kinds of different people.

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Sarah Wauters: Get, you know, return emails, so they will listen. And I actually do have a question when we drip.

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Sarah Wauters: When we do a drip irrigation, and maybe, Michael, you'll know this

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Sarah Wauters: when we drip, irrigate a tree just for the hose, a handheld hose, and we just put it on there for like twenty minutes or a half an hour. How many gallons would you say? That is,

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Isabelle Duvivier: It depends on the velocity.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, I don't know. Just coming out. You're muted.

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Barry Campion: I, You know that's actually you know there are calculations for that about I mean, how fast is the drip You could hold the the drip you have into a gallon to to figure it out, but I think it's pretty hard to say that just kind of off the cuff I mean.

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Sarah Wauters: I I I think if you haven't drip, you really actually have to move it around the tree, you know, for it to actually be ah meaningful It It it's a labor-intensive way to water. A tree

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Sarah Wauters: takes a lot of time.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay? Well, i'll let her hand up there for a second. I'm sorry I didn't notice. Remember,

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Sarah Wauters: Noel. Did you want to see.

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Noel Johnston: The only thing I wanted to say is that that the if you look online, I guess the average American shower lasts seventeen minutes.

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Noel Johnston: The shower that they recommend is a five-minute shower, which they say low a low water head.

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Noel Johnston: You said, Yeah, uh,

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Noel Johnston: should take it should take about ten gallons, So I Personally, I don't take five minute shower most of the time. I guess my showers are closer to ten minutes, so I probably use twice that much. I'm sorry to say um, but i'm i'm gonna try to shower less, that's all. I guess i'll smell bad, but

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Noel Johnston: at least, if you don't have a teenager in your household, you know long hair.

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Noel Johnston: So i'm all about that.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I wanted to add to the conversation about the watering. We also need to make sure people understand they shouldn't be trimming their trees in the summer when it's hot, especially the way they denounce the entire tree, and they maybe want cuts, and the tree gets sunburned. It's very bad for the tree. But if you don't mind, I also had two other

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Isabelle Duvivier: reports. Well actually just one other report, which is very exciting. The city, somehow accidentally discovered It had one hundred and sixty six thousand dollars in an oak tree deposit fund,

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Isabelle Duvivier: and if you'll let me share with you. I will share with you how they're planning on planting those trees. So the trees were basically when you put a deposit on an oak tree that you're supposed to plan.

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Noel Johnston: If you don't plant the tree, the city keeps the money so. Oh, since one thousand nine hundred and eighty seven, they forgot about this fund, and

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Sarah Wauters: they're going to be planting thirty, nine oak trees somewhere in Cd. Eleven. Um! They're only going to plant them in a ten Foot Parkway, so we probably won't get any of those trees, but it's still quite exciting. Why does it have to be ten?

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Barry Campion: Just because they're asshole. I didn't say that.

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Sarah Wauters: Remember, this is being recorded.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I know, I know. I forget just because they

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Sarah Wauters: that weird the way that the recording unit learns things and makes it so like with the things that we didn't say,

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Isabelle Duvivier: and because they're arrested isn't that what you said

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Isabelle Duvivier: it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's, it's it's it's it's it's, it's it's it's, it's, it's, it's it's, it's, it's it's it's

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Isabelle Duvivier: yeah so and then the last thing I just wanted to answer Sarah's question when we met with rap, and I again emphasized,

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Isabelle Duvivier: What about the trees at Centennial Park? Because the reason Chuck asked that question is because he heard me call in that rat and made a very same public comment. I said, we've got these sycamore trees, and while they're not doing anything, they they should be watered.

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Isabelle Duvivier: And then who wasn't, Noel? Who said at our meeting? He said, Oh, yeah, we water those trees, and I was like,

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Isabelle Duvivier: why the hell didn't you like email us? I've been emailing them. We go to a public meeting. We ask them. He says they water those trees twice a week for seven minutes, as is allowed by the cities,

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Isabelle Duvivier: you know. Obviously that's a terrible way to water a sycamore tree. They should be watering once a week for fourteen minutes or

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Barry Campion: one. They're established once a month a deep soap would be Yeah, you

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Sarah Wauters: anything. Anything would be better than seven minutes twice a week. But they are getting water,

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Isabelle Duvivier: he says, and I don't know if that's true. But it

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Isabelle Duvivier: how many, how many ten-foot parkways are there in District Eleven?

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Isabelle Duvivier: I asked Rachel that question, and she said she'd get back to me next month. I asked her how many corridors, because they're going to do for our planning, I said, How many corridors are there that are ten foot wide, with no power lines? That's the other thing.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um! How many linear feet like? How many years. Is it going to take them to to use up this money? If

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Isabelle Duvivier: you know it looks like it may not take that many years. If it's. There's also the tree guarantee fee money um, And right now they're trying to figure out where they're going to be planting those trees. But again they won't be in Venice. They'll be in Del Rey, and they'll be in West La Santel

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Isabelle Duvivier: because those are the low-income neighborhoods and Cd eleven.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay,

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Sarah Wauters: we can accept that, I guess.

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Sarah Wauters: All right, Bucks:

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, but that's good news. Okay. So um, let's move on. No? Well, if you're finished with your report, is there anything else that you wanted to add

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Noel Johnston: uh, not to my report. No,

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Sarah Wauters: okay.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay. So on to the future speakers. Um! As I said, Prior. Ah, trace of Park and Aaron Darling are both going to attend a meeting separately. Different meetings. Um! And I've told them that you know they need to attend, for you know, fifteen to thirty minutes,

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Sarah Wauters: and that we'll do. We'll just have a kind of a casual Q and A. Session. I did say that they could prepare an environmental type of statement if they wanted, but

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Sarah Wauters: it's really up to them. So I wanted this time for you guys to tell me what kind of questions you think we should ask, and then I can kind of try to edit them down in between. But why don't we kind of let it rip

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Sarah Wauters: as far as what questions we'd like to ask. Go ahead, Harry. Um. Well, I would like to, I mean, and I and I think this is a good area, because I think it may.

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Barry Campion: I don't know, not force them, but you.

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Barry Campion: They're going to have to really. I don't know, unless they show their cards, but they're going to have to address something very specific. So of course, this is about the Panmar Rose path, which is now in the last throes of going forward with the city's, you know. Terrible plan,

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Barry Campion: and there's not really much we can do about it. So I would like to ask them if your councilman,

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Barry Campion: will you go back to this plan, which the community had hoped would be a model of diversity, a model for other types of green spaces that wrap around park areas. Would you step in and try to improve this project, even though street cell, A which really doesn't know anything about how to make a model. Green space,

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Barry Campion: you know, is is moving ahead, and the main problem in the whole thing is the lack of leadership. Because Vaughn has. That's the building. So

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Barry Campion: that's a lot. But I think getting them to comment on that would show how interested are they? And really having a forceful voice for the kinds of things that we care about.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, I think that's a good idea. I do think that we need to be able to prep them a little bit, because that's a pretty Ah, um! That we do! We have, Do We have two slides, one of what the city proposes to do, and two of what we propose,

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Sarah Wauters: because if we can get those two slides, or or you could, you could call the slide that we proposed. I mean, I saw those slides we could. We could say this was a

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Sarah Wauters: initial community effort.

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Sarah Wauters: We would not say it was a proposal, because, of course, it was not. I don't think we ever did. Did you guys have a proposal that was ultimately voted on by all the members of the community.

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Barry Campion: The committee well didn't. We vote on it

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Barry Campion: we we kind of voted on Ah, on it. But there was never. I mean a couple. Things happened. One there was the flyer

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Sarah Wauters: that had sort of a picture from one of the you know. Ah! Plans that I did with Doug, but we really focused only on the really the Dg. Path. Not only, but and that's that circulated through Change Org and the neighborhood, and got a thousand signatures, saying, We, the community wants a soft path. They want a natural Dg:

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Sarah Wauters: so that that's one piece and it I mean there are a lot of pieces to it, and I don't want to take up a lot of time. But um! I think both of them are very familiar with the project. Aaron Darling was at a community meeting with the city plan

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Sarah Wauters: was shown, and people spoke about it. Tracy Park had a representative there, so they're pretty primed on this.

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Noel Johnston: So um go ahead. No, I

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Noel Johnston: a pertinent to this I would,

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Noel Johnston: and and appropriate to it, I hope, is that

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Noel Johnston: I think we're going to have to ask about his attitude toward Pemmar Aren't. We,

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Noel Johnston: I mean, because if if

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Noel Johnston: um I it's still my understanding, of course, that he did not retract that statement that he made about our becoming a ah, a homeless encampment or a permanent housing for the homeless. If that's true.

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Noel Johnston: Um

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Noel Johnston: his his view of green space.

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Noel Johnston: I would I would like to find out what his policy in general

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Noel Johnston: about the future of green space specifically in Venice, in Cd. Eleven in general, and in Venice. Specifically,

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Barry Campion: I I agree with that. And another example of that is along Jefferson, along by Ona, where I think those encampments and those trailers. And They're They're impacting an ecological reserve.

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Barry Campion: You just find utterly irresponsible.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Uh-huh.

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Sarah Wauters: um Jefferson.

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Sarah Wauters: Um yeah. There was a fire there like

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Sarah Wauters: there's dumping as Well, they're dumping government toxic, you know.

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Sarah Wauters: Well, they don't bring garbage, and they're probably dumping the contents of their um toilets to the into the thing. Um i'm i'm aware of what needs to be done with an Ah. Rv. Since I've actually vacation one. So you know you never think of this, but that thing needs to be empty like

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Sarah Wauters: every four days.

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Sarah Wauters: So it's they're being emptied somewhere, and I can't imagine it's anywhere other than that space. Okay, So

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Sarah Wauters: adjacent to Iona Creek,

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Noel Johnston: so can we send you our questions?

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Sarah Wauters: Yes, you guys can send questions, and what i'm going to do from what we're talking about right now is i'm going to edit them further and really formulate appointed.

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Sarah Wauters: And i'm glad that you let me know that both Aaron Darling and Tracy Parks should be well primed on the Penmark project. I still think it would be nice to be able to show them. Hey, this is what the community came up with. This is what the city came up with. Will you step in and

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Sarah Wauters: halt the city's progress in order to see to what the community really wants? I mean, I think that's you know.

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Noel Johnston: I think if you give them two things to choose from, then they can say what they're gonna do.

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Noel Johnston: We're also limiting this specifically to questions of interest, are we not? We're not going to talk about politics in general?

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Noel Johnston: Now, Myanmar is a sort of a politics in general question, except for the fact that it's our big hunk of green space and violence

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Noel Johnston: right? It's one of our only things like it that we've got. We don't have anything else anywhere that approaches that.

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Noel Johnston: So to to hear him talk about doing it in

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Noel Johnston: and in favor of homeless

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Noel Johnston: uh to me it's huge.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah. Well, there's also a very

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Barry Campion: what would be the word. There's a segment of, you know, Rose Penmar. The people that live, you know a long, Rose. You know, as you all know, that we're responsible for getting the homeless encampment

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Sarah Wauters: relocated or housed,

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Barry Campion: you know, if he even mentions that he will have the wrath of many people on him. So I don't know. I mean it would be. It would be a move fraught with

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Barry Campion: ah turmoil. And

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yeah,

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, it would be it. It would be bad.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, so would be bad. I mean, I think I think there is the issue of We have quite a number of homeless folks on the streets in Venice. And where do we put them? If we're going to build housing within the borders of Venice.

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Sarah Wauters: Um, Where does it go? That is a very key question. Now, there's a There's a lot of empty lots, but they are privately held, and the city would have to spend the money to buy them, and so, to a certain degree, we want to hear from him like, you know.

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Sarah Wauters: Does the city have the financial will to be,

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Sarah Wauters: you know.

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Sarah Wauters: I think we should have to stay away from home, Homeless conversation. Let him figure out where to put them.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, it's not. It's It's too contentious, and that's not. I've been. I've had my hand up for a really long time, so i'm just go ahead and say what I wanted to say

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Isabelle Duvivier: so. Shelly and I met with Greg Good, who used to be the president of the Board of Public Works, and now he works in the Mayor's office.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Don't know he, you know He ran for Cd. Eleven. He

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Isabelle Duvivier: and he lost to Tracy and to Aaron.

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Sarah Wauters: He was the president of the board of the so he was not a manager. He was a commissioner.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, So it's much different. But just anyway,

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Isabelle Duvivier: yeah, So we met with him and told him: Sorry, sir. You just kind of got me right.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I'm feeling like what

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Isabelle Duvivier: um

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we met with him, and basically

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Isabelle Duvivier: gave him a sense of what's wrong with Cfac and

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Isabelle Duvivier: what's wrong with city policy

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Isabelle Duvivier: and um.

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Isabelle Duvivier: He suggested that we write a letter that he would share. He also expressed something that I thought was super interesting. He says it's the first time probably ever that. And please Don't, crack me where we have two new City Council members. We have

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Isabelle Duvivier: a new mayor, and we will be in the very middle of a budget cycle when they all get elected into office. And this is all quite

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Isabelle Duvivier: unusual we we have. We'll have a new chief Sustainability officer, Bureau Street services. So he recommended that we write a letter to him. That is kind of like our. What do we do as we get out the gate like? What is the first thing that we want? Karen Bass to do? And and our other elected officials. So we wrote a letter, and I haven't. I can share with you if you want. But basically the main thing the letter does is educate people because all these people are coming into

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Isabelle Duvivier: It's a new. So um!

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Isabelle Duvivier: We have a section that we call backgrounds. I don't know if you can see that. But where we talk really briefly about the fact that we're a biodiversity hotspot, We talk about tree, canopy, coverage, and inequities, and we compare l a to two other cities, showing that we only have fourteen, whereas

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Isabelle Duvivier: these other cities have thirty, six, and thirty eight. We have this diagram that shows the inequity entry, canopy, coverage in the city of La. We also have this image that shows how tree canopy declined over the years between two thousand and two thousand and nine,

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Isabelle Duvivier: and then we have our little list of asks. So the reason I want to share this with you is because

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Isabelle Duvivier: you know we're going to be launching this soon, we still Haven't finished it, it's being reviewed by Ah Robin, and in fact, Teresa and Shelly and I, and we haven't presented it to bread. Good yet, but at some point when it's better refined, we're going to be um specifically targeting these newly elected and city staff, because city staff are going to start working on the budget even before the city elected. So we don't have to talk about the specifics in the letter now,

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Isabelle Duvivier: but i'd like to share it with you all, so maybe we can make ah questions like, Would you allocate one percent of city resources to preservation of existing trees.

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Isabelle Duvivier: But I would say we can't do that until we share with him these miserable statistics, right? Because he probably has no idea how bad it is, and so for us to say, Well, taking away Kenemar Park is a travesty. He may think. Well, you know those rich people in Cd Eleven, you know they don't need that part. But when you look at this map,

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Isabelle Duvivier: you see clearly that's a part, for so we don't have to formulate the questions from this letter now, but I just. I would share this with you if you would like, and then you could formulate some questions based on our talking points which are about budget

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Isabelle Duvivier: um, advancing tree policy, a tree removal, moratorium um implement, meaningful enforcement and elevate nature in the city. Those are like the main really high points, and I pass the torch to Michael.

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Michael McGuffin: Well, I was gonna say just one part of that and correct me if i'm wrong,

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Michael McGuffin: I couldn't help myself.

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Michael McGuffin: Uh,

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Michael McGuffin: that was to focus on the canopy. If we were to present each of the

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Michael McGuffin: speakers in these candidates, here's the law. The law says fifty. Here's the facts in Dc. Eleven or in nine hundred and two, nine, one, two, and a localized part of and just show them that Ah! Whole foods is non-compliant.

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Michael McGuffin: Ah been a skills center. It's completely non-compliant. I don't know if it's if it's required of that kind of property or ralph's is non-compliant so just, you know a fact. This is the requirement of fact. Nobody complies. But then I don't know. What the ask is, is the ask,

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Michael McGuffin: Is there anything that you can do to foster either enforcement or some kind of motivation

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Michael McGuffin: for those properties to come into compliance during your term, or at least to so to begin to come into the compliance during your term. I think that was one part of what you were talking about is about, but it's the one that just i'm most familiar with from hanging out with you brilliant women and and Aaron Brilliant.

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Sarah Wauters: That's a good one, and you're referring to the part of the it's part of the code. Isn't it Isabelle that requires fifty. I mean tree plantings in new parking lots that would eventually provide a fifty percent canopy cover,

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Sarah Wauters: and if it was in a certain period of time, I can't remember what the period of time was.

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Sarah Wauters: Ten years, ten years. Um! So we may. That might be great. We could say, What would you do to foster either enforcement of this code or to entice parking Lot owners to comply

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Isabelle Duvivier: right. There's another code that says you're supposed to have one tree in every front yard,

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Barry Campion: but they're essential

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Isabelle Duvivier: residential. Yeah.

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Sarah Wauters: And it's not. That's building code.

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Sarah Wauters: No, that's the landscape or this landscape ordinance. And how is that? Typically, Now, you're kind of getting into the weeds? I'm thinking, you know,

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Barry Campion: do we really want to get into such level of detail with them, Or do we want to? I mean, maybe we do. I'm just saying there's like Joanne wrote a similar letter to ours, which she said to Karen Bass, and it was like twenty pages long with

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Barry Campion: You need to do this. You need to do that. You need to do that. This is one. This is wrong. This is wrong. We could go on forever saying what's wrong with it.

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Barry Campion: Well isn't it all about Budget isn't it all, I mean for the Councilman to find money, support, enforcement to support landing or trees, starting a small pilot program and building it up from there. And you know frankly, I don't know if either of these candidates have the experience to even know how to do that.

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Sarah Wauters: So that's that's the sad part. If you know there's no reason

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Sarah Wauters: I you

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, I do think that that the budget question which you do have in your letter is the bell is very cogent, and it is more of an umbrella question.

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Sarah Wauters: Would you support,

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Sarah Wauters: like other cities of our size, a one percent budget devoted to the urban canopy? I mean. That's a simple question, and we're probably not going to get a simple answer from them. They're politicians, after all, but we'll be able to get a sense from them of their level of,

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Isabelle Duvivier: and we'll be able to educate them by asking the question. They'll be like, Oh, I didn't know. We only have a zero point, two, five percent budget to trees.

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Sarah Wauters: So I do think I actually do think primarily this session is going to be for us to educate them

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Sarah Wauters: asking questions, Michael, do you still have your hand up?

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Noel Johnston: It's up again. But you know how about a one sheet or two sheet? They might be asked,

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Noel Johnston: maybe a couple of facts that they really should know.

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Sarah Wauters: I think that's a fair thing, you know. We have to turn on this letter

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Sarah Wauters: if we get it approved by Greg. Good in the next, or you know not approved. But if he says, yeah, this looks good, and he supports us, sending it out.

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This I just want to have a question. Has he endorsed either of these candidates?

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Sarah Wauters: You know. That's a really good question, you know. As you all recall. He was with us in Marvist, and so is Tracy. I don't know how that

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Barry Campion: Yeah. He was there with his dog.

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Barry Campion: Yeah,

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Sarah Wauters: you nice, Okay, that's all. I'm not. I can't remember which one he's courting. But I would try. Yes, Aaron, darling,

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Noel Johnston: I would kind of get guessed crazy.

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Noel Johnston: Okay? Well, good,

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Noel Johnston: yeah, very friendly, and know each other

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Noel Johnston: anybody.

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Sarah Wauters: What is his capacity right now? He's not He's not on the Commission any longer. Is he?

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Sarah Wauters: He works in the Mayor's office. Oh, he does! And what's his job?

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Noel Johnston: I had to, and he he told me that he was planning on staying in the administration until the new person came in, and then was getting out.

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Noel Johnston: Now I don't know what he meant by that. Whether he's you know

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Sarah Wauters: well most of the time he wouldn't even have a choice.

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Barry Campion: Yeah,

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Noel Johnston: right. He's probably not going to. He can't maintain this typically. A mayor is going to bring in his own guy right, or she or the

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Barry Campion: well. I don't know if we're allowed to talk about this, but I got the sense that he's planning on working in Bass's administration, and he'd be a good person for him. He's been around the block. He's very flexible. He's likeable.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I think that he yeah, she's gonna have a lot of staff needs, and she's going to need some folks that know what's going on.

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Noel Johnston: Okay,

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Michael.

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Michael McGuffin: Yeah, I I think i'm just circling back to agree with

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Michael McGuffin: Isabel and others. I think if we say, what are you gonna about these sixty five things, then we get. I love Green. I love treaties. We get nothing meaningful.

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Barry Campion: Um. So that we do want to, I think. As for something specific, I like the one percent, but something specific, and we can tell them that we can follow up with a detailed list of projects that are needed.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um, or that you know that we envisioned. It was just circling back to say it right. I like the idea of being focused in the ask and general in the description of work that needs to be done. But we can promise to get that to him later.

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Noel Johnston: Um, Yeah. I Okay. Well, no, Ellen, You've got your hand up. I I should take it down. I I I. I agree on that entirely. I I also think that we ought to maybe put in our letter that there is.

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Noel Johnston: We believe there's nothing that the city can get a bigger bang for their buck out of in the next ten years than plant increase.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So I just thought you'd like to see that that's pretty high level.

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Yeah.

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Noel Johnston: Yeah. So he's deputy chief of staff. Yeah. And Mary Hodge apparently is being elected to take over for Is it Sadia that was indicted.

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Sarah Wauters: Whoever the guy that was indicted that there's a temporary opening

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Michael McGuffin: Corporate Lee Thomas:

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah, okay, that. Yeah. So I think Mary Hodges going. There There's a lot of shuffling, Anyway, i'll stop sharing, but he's

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Isabelle Duvivier: I don't know any of these other people.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, he's a he's a fixture within the city. Government.

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Sarah Wauters: That's very much.

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Sarah Wauters: Um: Okay. So so just a quick. Our next church, Greg Good has not endorsed either Tracy Parks or Aaron Darwin

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Sarah Wauters: right? He may not be allowed to.

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Barry Campion: Yeah, we're not or not want to. Yeah,

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Sarah Wauters: yeah, since he's in the since he's in the present staff.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay. So what I see generally is about

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Sarah Wauters: five different questions.

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Sarah Wauters: If you could send me your letter, Isabel, and maybe I will do a one sheet for the candidates

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Sarah Wauters: that we'll talk about. These are the canopy losses, the difficulties that we're having, and i'll take it from your letter that you're sending to Greg,

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Sarah Wauters: because I think it's going to have to be more, you know. Quick bullet points.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, we have something really hard. It's going to be much. And then the questions that i'm. Now, seeing i'm seeing Ted mar

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Sarah Wauters: um, meaning the past, the Penmar Rose Pass,

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Sarah Wauters: Green Space,

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Sarah Wauters: whether he supports maintaining green space in Venice, and say very specifically that includes the Penmar golf course, and that open space supports biodiversity. Our birds are bluebirds very specifically,

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Sarah Wauters: and um

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Sarah Wauters: focus on the canopy. And I think this actually what you were saying Michael

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Sarah Wauters: could be. There are many ordinances and codes on the books like you can't from a tree without a permit

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Sarah Wauters: are not being enforced. How do you propose to make all of these well-meaning codes? And i'll give him the examples.

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Sarah Wauters: How do you propose to enforce them, or to entice people to actually

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Sarah Wauters: oh, all of them. So that's another one, because that is one of our biggest. And then the budget question of one percent.

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Sarah Wauters: So that's four questions.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh, and actually we should ask him about Centennial Park.

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Sarah Wauters: Don't you guys think that Centennial Park has been neglected, And now, you know, basically has been fenced off. It's no longer usable by the public, much less anyone else,

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Sarah Wauters: you know again, and I don't know if this is something be folded in. But I think Cd. Eleven has just lacked leadership in general regarding the support of the things that we you know I care about on, and just got

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Barry Campion: so caught up in

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Barry Campion: his issues with homelessness, or whatever which I really actually respect, but

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Barry Campion: at at the cost of many other needs

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Barry Campion: that should should have been addressed, and

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Barry Campion: you know you have to find a balance. If you're in this Councilman position, you know It's a very difficult

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Barry Campion: I don't envy these canvas, so you.

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Sarah Wauters: Um,

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Barry Campion: I guess the need for you know the need for leadership in this area of um. It was one of the points in the letter it was, we need to really amplify our support of nature.

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Right?

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Isabelle Duvivier: Remember how it was

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Sarah Wauters: mean. I think it's it's also There they it bears repeating what trees do for us.

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Sarah Wauters: I think it's really a hidden, unfortunately a hidden benefit, but enormous. And so it it may be that you.

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Sarah Wauters: We have to start our talk with, you know, listing the environmental benefits, the

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Sarah Wauters: and human benefits that come from a healthy, vibrant, and well looked after Urban Forest.

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Barry Campion: Well, that, coupled with the fact that

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Barry Campion: you know the the push for density and the push for housing is a reality. And again, it's that you're in the Council in the position. How do you find that balance as trees are being knocked down, or density coming up?

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Barry Campion: How can you maintain at least the the canopy that you have and hopefully improve it. I mean It's It's

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Barry Campion: It's It's pretty rough out there. What's going on? So

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Sarah Wauters: yeah, And there's something to be said. The fact that these

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Michael McGuffin: ah

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Noel Johnston: regulations already exist. This Isn't. This has already been decided. We, the people decided years ago the

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Michael McGuffin: that these things should be done. This isn't a new idea.

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Barry Campion: How are you

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Barry Campion: and valid? Right? Yeah.

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Michael McGuffin: So I I do like the the focus on. How do we incentivize? How do you go knock on doors and say, Hey, you don't have a tree in your front yard will make help you do that. You know that's Incentivization is way easier than

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Sarah Wauters: If you don't, you're gonna be penalized, and you're gonna have to pay.

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Sarah Wauters: He wants to take this stick.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah

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Sarah Wauters: care.

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Sarah Wauters: But like I mean, Ah, listen. I think that I think that some of the things that are not happening we've talked about this pretty extensively is that our code enforcement is done primarily when a new building is going up for a renovation that's being made. And so it's forced through the bodies of the planning, and then also the building department. And these departments are not on board.

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Sarah Wauters: They are not on board. They need betrayed, I mean, heavily trained, like every single plan checker shipped off to Hawaii and made to listen to talks about trees. I mean, that's what I would do.

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Sarah Wauters: But

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Sarah Wauters: i'm not the queen of the world yet.

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Sarah Wauters: Um, okay. So I think I have a beginning.

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Sarah Wauters: I'm going to draft these questions and send them out pretty quickly, and then you guys can come back with edits, and then so we'll have, I think, five to six questions, and then we're going to have to allow the public to raise their hands and type questions into the chat.

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Sarah Wauters: Um! Are we able to do that in this meeting? Mechanism? We're not?

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Sarah Wauters: Ah,

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Isabelle Duvivier: no, we have to. Well, we can, if we elevate everybody to panelists. But there's no chat here,

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Isabelle Duvivier: so

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Isabelle Duvivier: I mean we may have to just risk letting people ask questions. But there, maybe, what if like, what's his name shows up Mr.

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Noel Johnston: That guy, the elephant there was. Really, I want. I don't want him to be.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah,

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Sarah Wauters: I don't want the goat to speak. It's too disruptive.

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Barry Campion: You have? If you're on the panel, can you be deleted by someone,

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Isabelle Duvivier: Sara? Can you do late? Can you delay, Barry?

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Sarah Wauters: Let's see if I can delete her

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Sarah Wauters: change role to attendee.

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Sarah Wauters: Yes,

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Noel Johnston: there you go.

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Isabelle Duvivier: So if they're disrespectful, you can

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Noel Johnston: change them to an attendee. Are you still? Oh, did I lose her completely. Hold on.

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Isabelle Duvivier: No, she's still there, but now she's only an attendee, so she's listening.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Um, and Barry, Can you raise your hands?

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Noel Johnston: How can you see her. I can't see her. Uh, Barry, raise your hands

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Isabelle Duvivier: because i'm looking at the Attendees list. There's Eric, and there's Barry in the attendee.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh, there it is okay. So i'm gonna i'm gonna to promote her.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah. So she raised her hand. She'd like to speak, and if she doesn't, say what you like, you can

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Isabelle Duvivier: stick her back there.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay. Great, excellent

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Sarah Wauters: thanks, Barry, for being the subject of our experiment. Okay, So maybe I need to. So, Jim simply. We do not have chat on this particular capability.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, I'm going to talk to Jim about possibly

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Sarah Wauters: using a normal zoom like, not the V. A. Cnc. Link. And then i'll just record it,

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Sarah Wauters: and then i'll send him the reporting,

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Sarah Wauters: because that's not okay. I really want to be able to see the questions in the chat

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Sarah Wauters: moving on. We've been on this subject for so long, and it's already almost one o'clock.

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Sarah Wauters: So um

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Sarah Wauters: first phase

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Noel Johnston: Venice Skills center was awarded. But What's the strategy for the next phase? I'm wondering, and Michael and Noel are both Well, Michael is the person, I guess the two of you guys are working together. Who wants to talk first,

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Noel Johnston: you mean? Ask me if I would speak for Table Court. I think Isabel can speak on it better.

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Noel Johnston: Can you hear me. I can hear you, but we're still on Venice Skills Center. We're gonna do Taper Court next.

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Noel Johnston: Oh, okay, go ahead, Michael. Sorry

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Michael McGuffin: We are

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Michael McGuffin: moving to try to get our proposal in order. Um, is it? Robert came in, marked some extra places where we can put trees. Is it? Is that right, Robert Castle, and it is his name.

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Noel Johnston: That's right.

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Noel Johnston: That's that's his name. Yes,

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Isabelle Duvivier: what? What? We've talked about? This is really between Noel and I. Is that What we're going to try to do is say,

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Michael McGuffin: what's the vision for the east Side? That's the biggest um parkway? How many trees do we stop at trees, or do we also put in some shrubs? What does that cost cost of trees? Mainly? Is there any cost for ah, concrete removal? We don't think so in that side

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Michael McGuffin: much did that cost? Do we have any money left? If we have any money left, then we go do the same thing for the west side.

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Michael McGuffin: If we have any money left, then we go do the same thing for the north side. We'll probably leave the south side alone. The

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Isabelle Duvivier: trees that were already planted there. The here, and they're flowering right now. They're already in. I did walk the the

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Michael McGuffin: area two days ago with a young friend who's an architect and his colleague, who's a

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Michael McGuffin: more senior architect, because my friend Jack had said, I want to really help. I want to provide some graphics. Um. Isabel came by for a little bit of that time, but not long enough to understand it that both of those men are insane, and are probably not going to actually help us with our project.

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Sarah Wauters: I think I got that. I got that sense. What we're gonna start with is just the

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Michael McGuffin: you know the dollars. But I did think, Isabel, you brought that drawing of Taber Court with all the little circles where the trees are.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah, I would be able to produce a graphic something like that to at least have some graphic representation

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Michael McGuffin: how we would plant, and we would start by showing the existing trees, the

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Isabelle Duvivier: and those sycamores on the ah East Side are unhealthy in that part of way. They're just, you know, but we're not going to say tear down trees. We're going to say, put up trees, and then maybe over time. We would want to replace those sycamores. But that's the strategy. I do know I've got

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Michael McGuffin: the task assigned by my task, masters, to send an inquiry to somebody who,

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Isabelle Duvivier: from Bonnan's office to request that they give us now a statement of support, and what we would submit to them is the original phase one submission. Here's what we've done. We were

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Michael McGuffin: amazingly successful. One of the few actually most who were moved to phase two, and we really would like to hit get an expression of support. So because we're beautifying District eleven, that's what we're doing. So we got to get all that done,

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Sarah Wauters: and we're working on it but a little slowly, because I've got this day job. I got to pay my taxes. My house is a mess hungry.

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Sarah Wauters: I think

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Sarah Wauters: you know what i'm in, so that I've already been in touch with Mike Bonnan's office, and they said, Yes, send it your application right There you go. I'm. Sure, I see you on that. So if we didn't, I haven't seen it. Okay. Got it?

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Sarah Wauters: So Are you fine with it? Bye,

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Michael McGuffin: I thought there was a request, though, to follow up. But if

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Isabelle Duvivier: we have to send them the proposal once we have something written, and then they can. I mean, basically we have to write the letter for them.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I support this project. It's going to do these things, and these people are great.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, Okay, what? What?

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Sarah Wauters: What else are you actually going to propose? I think one of the things that needs to be said is that, in fact, all of everywhere else in the city, the parkway is somewhat the responsibility of the person who lives in front of the parkway.

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Sarah Wauters: One of The reasons why this Parkway is so neglected is because the La Usd.

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Sarah Wauters: Occupies that property, and they are doing shit.

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Michael McGuffin: I'm doing a shit.

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Sarah Wauters: So we may have a meeting with them next week,

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Sarah Wauters: and we propose that irrigation be run from their plumbing into the parkway.

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Noel Johnston: I think we think if we do, they'll say no. If we say, would you not oppose us? We think they'll say we're perfectly fine to not oppose you.

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Michael McGuffin: I think we think, if we stay, would you help us? They'll say, No, We're in feebled and starving people. We don't have six cents or three minutes to spare. If you make an hour problem. We're not going to help you. I'm extrapolating from what I've heard from Noel and Isabel. But what I think we're trying to move them to is a passive position rather than a

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Michael McGuffin: We'll get out there in water position.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh, no, no, no, no! What i'm proposing is simply that we hire the plumbers.

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Noel Johnston: We do all the work. All we do is hook into their water.

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Sarah Wauters: That's it.

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Sarah Wauters: I don't need them to actively do anything I just want to insult. Install. No else got the answer.

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Noel Johnston: I don't have the answer at all, but just based on Isabel's and my last experience. We would just at this meeting, like to get a letter of support,

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Noel Johnston: and we would go after something like that. At another time. They have pretty much categorically told Isabel and myself that we cannot use their water, we cannot come on their property. So we don't. Isabel and I are not planning on going there again.

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Noel Johnston: We are at this point asking for their support for our beautify alli projects, and that's about it. Do you agree, Michael? And Isabel?

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, you're just talking to

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Noel Johnston: You're just talking to the site-specific people. You haven't gone. We are.

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Sarah Wauters: You haven't gone to the board of the l a usd or anything like that?

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Noel Johnston: No, we've tried that.

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Isabelle Duvivier: We did. Yeah, we did that, and that also is in great flux. Allison left to run for some position. Now she's back. We had been talking to Casey Casey's now gone to grad school. It's the whole thing's a shit show, so we just we just want a letter of support, and and then

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Isabelle Duvivier: we want to have one little kiss kiss. I love you. Thanks.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah.

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Sarah Wauters: And Nick Melvoyne's office completely acquiesces to the principal. They they refuse to take a position or strong arm. Her All they do is say, here she is, talk to her so they haven't really

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Isabelle Duvivier: helped us, but that's because they had a a young girl who was an experience, and I asked in our last email if we wanted to bring Allison back in. But I haven't heard from Melissa so,

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Michael McGuffin: or as I was not expecting that we were going to ask to insert the

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Michael McGuffin: sprinklers.

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Noel Johnston: No, I just. I just asked you right now about that, because if we really would like to kind of follow the micro forest idea of actually having understory that supports trees, then that would be possible if we had irrigation. But if not, then

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Sarah Wauters: and there's no reason to plan for anything other than trees and the trees. We are going to have to continue to water them ourselves, which well, if we're planting drought, tolerant trees, we have to water them ourselves until they're well established. We should not have to water,

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Isabelle Duvivier: and they'll correct me if i'm wrong. And I tell you, when I was standing in the the other day as well. I want those ironwoods because they're beautiful when they're tall and mature, and I don't think you have to go out in the water or with your irewood every week or a month, or something. Right?

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, that the Ironwood and Tamer Court is very successful.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Those guys get water twice a week.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh, they do. Yeah, they look nice because they get watered

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Michael McGuffin: so they need water. So I

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Barry Campion: That was my question.

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Sarah Wauters: Grow as fast if they don't get water. Yeah, I mean, a lot of natives can survive without water, but they won't. Do. My yeah. When you give them water they're pretty happy.

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Barry Campion: Other others get all pissy about having the water and die. So

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Sarah Wauters: kind of a funny like. If you give a flannel bush water, just forget about it. I'm gone.

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Isabelle Duvivier: I mean your crazy friend Jack, as crazy as he is. I mean he had an excellent point. What if we could take all the run off from that parking lot and drain it right into our parkway? Then we'd have so much water. And you know what

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Isabelle Duvivier: you said that months ago. Yeah, yeah, I said that months ago, and that's you know. Maybe that maybe that's a long-term vision that we can try to have with Melissa. But for this first meeting we just need to Let Her agree, to let us

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Isabelle Duvivier: to support our efforts and not tell us to go away that it's not her responsibility.

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Sarah Wauters: Also. There's just wait, wait, and Noel has her hand up there. I i'm sorry

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Noel Johnston: this is just small. I just wanted to ah say to Isabelle and Michael primarily that I did get in touch with the sunset studios, which is that big warehouse

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Noel Johnston: and Joan Daffy there is pretty gun home,

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Noel Johnston: he says. I'm going to talk to the owner, but we may get It's possible we'll get more cooperation from them. Then we'll definitely write us a letter of support.

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Noel Johnston: I think we also have a letter of support from the Historical Society.

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Michael McGuffin: I will share that the idea that these insane men came up with that was at least original in a kind of an interesting

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Isabelle Duvivier: the concept.

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Michael McGuffin: Here you are surrounding an educational

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Michael McGuffin: institution. Could we create something educational? Could we put up some kind of

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Michael McGuffin: device that holds some brochures? Would you like to make the block on your street as beautiful as this one, and start to, you know. Advise people to apply for, beautify L. A. Where to get trees. What the process is contact. Bvg: So make it include somehow an educational element, if we can.

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Noel Johnston: Well, you should be depressing on that. But the deputy principal made a big point out of saying that this was not your typical educational facility, but these were people with disabilities and criminal records, and that their educational

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Noel Johnston: ah process was not the same as the average la usd school. Now that doesn't mean that they wouldn't be interested in that it just they. They be

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Noel Johnston: higher ups at this particular school seem to to be in the saying No, first. So I I think whatever we do, we ought to make our ask in this meeting. Really simple. I'm with Isabel on this. Let's just get them to write us a letter of submarine, or from there

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Sarah Wauters: Also I have to say this out loud. It sounds like they look down on their own students, and they are

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Sarah Wauters: abysmal. Educator. I mean, that's just ridiculous. The Security Guard when I was there, And what he told me is that the only classes now are Esl and Computer.

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Michael McGuffin: They're not teaching carpentry or auto mechanics or cooking or anything that's

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Sarah Wauters: anything useful.

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Isabelle Duvivier: My mom got her teacher certification there like two years ago.

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Noel Johnston: It's all It was all done online from home. So your I think your point may have been that those with only classes there on site, but they do have a lot of other classes that they rag to us about what we not with them right now. Well, I mean they showed us their website, and they

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Isabelle Duvivier: like lots of you know, classes on how to do maintenance. And you know, nursing. I think you have a nursing program like for for low tech level stuff, so they're kind of like

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Isabelle Duvivier: we should. I don't know enough about them, but they're not just Esl and computer science. We should probably know that before we have that meeting with them.

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Isabelle Duvivier: Yes,

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Isabelle Duvivier: okay. I I want to push back on what Noel just, said Jack Wasn't, saying an educational opportunity for the people who go into the skills center during the day. They meant an educational opportunity for the people that are walking past there that are going. Wow! How did this become beautiful?

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Michael McGuffin: And then the the association is just, whether whether we look down on them, or we don't, we do, or we don't like the scope of their education. It's an educational institution that we expand education beyond the borders of the skills.

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Sarah Wauters: Right? I think I think that's a good idea. I mean it, and it might be that there has to be more

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Sarah Wauters: established signage signage that can't be removed right, something that actually planted in the ground, or you know that's got a plaque that says, you know these native trees will provide. You know

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Sarah Wauters: these many benefits something to that effect, because I think that's actually the greatest education that's needed in our public is to stop just walking past trees and not noticing

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Sarah Wauters: they are providing shade and pollution, mitigation and all kinds of things so okay, great. So maybe maybe the signage goes into the proposal.

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Noel Johnston: I don't know.

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Noel Johnston: I'm going to go.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay. Sorry I've recorded. I'm. Mary. Goodbye. But there, have a good weekend. Thank you. Good to see you all good to see you, too.

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Noel Johnston: Okay. Now i'll go ahead. Just one other small thing of that marker post that's on the corner of Sunset and fourth,

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Noel Johnston: the I did get a hold of um.

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Noel Johnston: So

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it's our full number. So we're.

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Noel Johnston: What is that? The circle towards the back

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Noel Johnston: is somebody Somebody needs to be meeting.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, I mean, Isabelle.

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Sarah Wauters: Is that sound coming from you,

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Sarah Wauters: Isabel? You can mute her. Whoever's running the meeting can mute.

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Noel Johnston: Yes, I will mute her. There we go

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Noel Johnston: just just uh we don't know how important that uh marker is. It may be a sham,

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Noel Johnston: but um! The Historical Society is going to let Ah look into it and get back to us, and I don't think we'll need to remove it or do anything with it, but it's kind of kind of a weird thing there right now, and we would like to know what the hell it is?

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Noel Johnston: Okay? And it's not

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Sarah Wauters: okay. So will will you speak about Taper court.

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Noel Johnston: Ah, I Ah! Isabel can speak about it more eloquently than I can. But Janine asked me if I would speak about it, and just say that that she is ah away this weekend. She is going to start working on her ah second phase on Tuesday, when she comes home.

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Noel Johnston: I think she is pretty much in the same shape that we are. She's got Isabel doing design work for her, which Michael and I do not have, So Isabella, as I understand it is, is providing me a plant

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Noel Johnston: and future for for the Tiber court set up. Janine was, had not been aware that it that actually it was a parking lot that it is parking Lot seven hundred and sixty. The

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Noel Johnston: There is another Taber court in venice which is a low-income housing project. I believe it's on on fourth just off Rose, and we want to make sure that that our taber doesn't get confused with that table.

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Noel Johnston: I'm:

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Noel Johnston: the Ah!

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Noel Johnston: The

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Noel Johnston: project itself is much more straightforward than the Skill Center.

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Oh,

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Noel Johnston: Project! And I think that uh that it's.

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Noel Johnston: I think it's going to be easy, a little easier to understand in terms of explaining it and and grant terms. And Janine Janine feels this way as well. She's pretty much got. Ah, she doesn't she doesn't have her ah letters of approval yet.

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Noel Johnston: Ah, you know we all we all need the letter from both of us need the letter from Bonnet's office she's got ah! People that she's going to sign up as volunteers, and we need to make sure that our volunteer list on our application

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Noel Johnston: is different than the volunteers on her application.

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Noel Johnston: She is working on getting ah community support letters. I think I have gotten at least five for us. I wouldn't swear to it, because we've got to write a sample letter, and Janine will have to do this, too. A sort of a sample letter that people can base their letters to us on

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Noel Johnston: um. It has to. It has to. Ah basically say that. Ah, i'm a neighbor of ah ah Tiber Court, and that this would be a big ah plus in terms of the community that it's ah been ignored too long that the ah plantings are in need of very far refurbishment

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Noel Johnston: that um ah! That it's a worthy project, and that the ah community at large Ah! Supports it, and I think ah! Ah! June! And is also going to try to get a letter from Jim Meres. Am I right on This is about?

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Noel Johnston: Would you also suggest to Janine that part of the application should include that educational element, too, that we have signage that is posted which

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Sarah Wauters: alerts both the public and any contractors that come there, that the ironwoods and The cherries are trees, and they should not be trimmed.

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Sarah Wauters: We need those that signage,

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Sarah Wauters: because that's one of the biggest problems forte record is that it's supposed to have big tall trees, and it only has one. And the only reason why that one big tall tree grew tall is because it was always,

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Noel Johnston: I agree with you. But do you think that this is a part of our application for what we're doing? This has nothing to do with beautifying Los Angeles?

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Noel Johnston: I I think they they are looking.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, it does absolutely. The trees will not become beautiful until they're tall.

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Noel Johnston: Okay? Well, I I wasn't personally thinking of this as a as a component, or spending money on it.

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Noel Johnston: I right now, Michael and I have not been looking into that. I'm sure it's something we can look into, but we haven't been.

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Sarah Wauters: Yeah, I know i'll pay for that,

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Isabelle Duvivier: I think, she said. The game. Write her her application, and then we can. If we think that needs to be inserted. But she's pretty savvy about the about how to

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Isabelle Duvivier: frame it, And she did it before. Really. Well, that made us

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Sarah Wauters: right? Excellent!

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, very, Michael. We are now at one hundred and fifteen. We're supposed to end at one. Do you guys want to adjourn?

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Sarah Wauters: Is there anything that we should press forward on.

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Noel Johnston: There was then, I just want to say very briefly,

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Sarah Wauters: Um! That Isabel brought up the

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Sarah Wauters: policy, a trade policy that was drafted by an the Unmc, which is a united neighborhood of neighborhood councils, is three that are all together

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Sarah Wauters: east of us. Well east of us, and i'm going to have to present that to you guys next time, because I think it's an excellent tree policy, and maybe what i'll do is i'll send it out to you guys, and you can have a look at it, and then we can all discuss it more intelligently on the next go-round

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Sarah Wauters: Um! Does anybody have any announcements before we adjourn?

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Sarah Wauters: No announcement. Okay, Um, there's one thing that I didn't include in my report, and I know, Eric, you would be curious to hear this. Um! I have been slowly pushing forward the Lincoln Improvement Project that i'm interested in doing,

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Sarah Wauters: and I did speak with Dean Howell, who is a landscape. Architecture has been involved in a lot of streetscape, and i'm going to have drinks with him, and he's going to explain to me a little bit more about the process. But he did tell me that the appropriate recipient,

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Sarah Wauters: large grants probably will be Cd: eleven itself.

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Sarah Wauters: So okay, folks can we adjourn.

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Michael McGuffin: Yeah,

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, bye, everybody. Thank you.