WEBVTT 1 00:00:34.340 --> 00:00:36.040 jim murez: Test one. 2 00:00:43.780 --> 00:00:44.960 jim murez: Yes, 3 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:08.059 jim murez: Joe, i'm online waiting for you. 4 00:02:10.370 --> 00:02:16.070 jim murez: No, I want you to come and sign in, so I can turn over the meeting to you. 5 00:02:16.390 --> 00:02:18.320 jim murez: No, I Joe, 6 00:02:18.660 --> 00:02:21.699 jim murez: um. Can you go to zoom right now? 7 00:02:21.890 --> 00:02:25.110 jim murez: I've already started the meeting, and i'm waiting for you, 8 00:02:28.600 --> 00:02:33.310 jim murez: Joe. I've started the meeting. Can you log into zoom, 9 00:02:35.150 --> 00:02:38.840 jim murez: Okay, log into zoom, And i'll make you the host. Okay, 10 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:41.409 jim murez: Okay, bye, 11 00:05:16.320 --> 00:05:18.490 jim murez: There it goes. Finally, 12 00:05:20.170 --> 00:05:23.769 jim murez: i'll make you the host. If that's okay with you 13 00:05:24.390 --> 00:05:26.769 jim murez: and i'll make Joe the co-host. 14 00:06:04.100 --> 00:06:13.570 jim murez: They change the sharing thing around here. Just want to make sure I get this right. All right. Well, I've made it possible for you guys to share screens with whoever needs to. 15 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:17.869 jim murez: And i'm going to step away. Now, Paul, you're going to be the host 16 00:06:18.640 --> 00:06:21.810 jim murez: while you're now the host show you the co-host. 17 00:06:22.270 --> 00:06:25.890 jim murez: Gentlemen, if you have any problems, give me a call. I'll be on my cell phone, 18 00:06:25.900 --> 00:06:28.100 jim murez: Joe. You have my cell phone number. 19 00:06:28.110 --> 00:06:30.190 Paul Davis: We're cool. We hear you. Thank you so much, Jim. 20 00:06:30.200 --> 00:06:30.890 jim murez: Okay, 21 00:06:30.900 --> 00:06:37.680 Paul Davis: Have a good night. Oh, by the way, yeah, you guys are usually done in an hour and a half, are you? 22 00:06:37.690 --> 00:06:40.790 Paul Davis: We? We aim for an hour. But yeah, our now Okay, 23 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:46.480 jim murez: all right. I figured so because Lupe has a meeting starting at seven that I have to start. 24 00:06:46.490 --> 00:06:47.889 Paul Davis: That will not be a problem for us. 25 00:06:47.900 --> 00:06:49.460 jim murez: Okay, Great 26 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:51.090 bye. For now 27 00:06:51.100 --> 00:06:52.100 Paul Davis: have a good night. 28 00:06:54.510 --> 00:06:55.620 Joseph Murphy: Okay, 29 00:06:56.460 --> 00:06:57.940 Paul Davis: How are you there? 30 00:06:58.500 --> 00:07:01.090 Joseph Murphy: Yeah, I'm: Sure, We're getting to the top here, 31 00:07:01.100 --> 00:07:03.800 Paul Davis: all right. Sounds good all that way. I'll be right back. 32 00:07:51.490 --> 00:07:52.620 Joseph Murphy: Okay, 33 00:08:08.700 --> 00:08:10.030 Paul Davis: Hey, Joe. 34 00:08:14.660 --> 00:08:17.990 Joseph Murphy: Ah, I keep getting confused. There we go. 35 00:08:21.330 --> 00:08:30.420 Paul Davis: So, John i'm sending the map to John and i'm sending it to a Mcmahon Niche 36 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:35.770 Paul Davis: and I'm sending I have a map update here, Joe, can you hear me 37 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:39.789 Paul Davis: and Regan? 38 00:08:52.900 --> 00:08:54.620 Paul Davis: Okay. So 39 00:08:59.470 --> 00:09:03.950 Paul Davis: so John Bernouche, Regan, Joe, and Joel, 40 00:09:04.390 --> 00:09:07.509 Paul Davis: I will send this also to 41 00:09:07.650 --> 00:09:08.820 Paul Davis: Robin. 42 00:09:08.830 --> 00:09:09.820 Paul Davis: Hey, Joe? 43 00:09:10.170 --> 00:09:14.090 Joseph Murphy: Yeah, I'm. Finally connected. So I can hear you. Can you hear me? 44 00:09:14.100 --> 00:09:20.569 Paul Davis: Yeah, if I send the Rob, the the map update to Robin? Should I also send it to Helen? Uh our friend Helen 45 00:09:21.470 --> 00:09:27.829 Joseph Murphy: I'm. Defaulting to send it to the entire expanded group, 46 00:09:28.210 --> 00:09:30.899 Joseph Murphy: which is the one that I said. The air 47 00:09:31.210 --> 00:09:33.390 Joseph Murphy: update, too. But what are you sending? 48 00:09:33.400 --> 00:09:38.070 Paul Davis: Well, it's just. I've got a map. Update a A revised updated map. 49 00:09:38.260 --> 00:09:40.249 Joseph Murphy: I'd send it to everybody. 50 00:09:40.270 --> 00:09:41.690 Paul Davis: Well, okay. But who but 51 00:09:41.700 --> 00:09:48.760 Paul Davis: I mean beyond our committee that That's is that just Reagan? I'm sorry, Robin and and and Helen, or who else? 52 00:09:49.060 --> 00:09:51.140 Joseph Murphy: It's It's 53 00:09:51.420 --> 00:10:01.490 Joseph Murphy: It's the group that I sent the up sent the reminder to just recently. Okay, let me get the names of them. 54 00:10:01.500 --> 00:10:04.730 Paul Davis: Oh, well hold on one sec. I might know one. Sec: Let me just try to figure that out. 55 00:10:05.660 --> 00:10:07.590 Paul Davis: Ah, yeah, 56 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:09.270 Paul Davis: okay. So 57 00:10:09.750 --> 00:10:15.280 Joseph Murphy: the Vivier one I know. Oh, yeah, right? Okay. So it would be So it's, adding in Robin 58 00:10:15.500 --> 00:10:17.040 Paul Davis: Sandy, 59 00:10:17.510 --> 00:10:21.220 Paul Davis: Isabel. And okay, found. Yeah, No problem. Okay, yeah, let me do that. One second. 60 00:10:21.230 --> 00:10:22.170 Joseph Murphy: Okay. 61 00:10:26.130 --> 00:10:28.340 Paul Davis: Okay. So Raman 62 00:10:29.260 --> 00:10:30.670 Paul Davis: Helen 63 00:10:32.310 --> 00:10:33.920 Paul Davis: Isabel. 64 00:10:34.890 --> 00:10:36.480 Paul Davis: And 65 00:10:39.390 --> 00:10:40.740 Paul Davis: there was one more. 66 00:10:49.270 --> 00:10:54.909 Paul Davis: So yeah, I guess Sandy. Right? Okay. So 67 00:10:56.350 --> 00:11:00.489 Paul Davis: yes, indeed. It's Robin Sandy, Isabel and Helen. 68 00:11:00.500 --> 00:11:02.179 Paul Davis: Yeah, I got it. Thank you. 69 00:11:03.700 --> 00:11:05.489 Paul Davis: God it got it got it. 70 00:11:05.500 --> 00:11:06.410 Joseph Murphy: Okay, 71 00:11:06.820 --> 00:11:10.070 Joseph Murphy: Yeah. I'm: assuming that that's the extended 72 00:11:10.090 --> 00:11:15.309 Joseph Murphy: of interested people that we would send them any of the mid-mouth stuff to as well, 73 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:23.149 Joseph Murphy: because they've expressed interest in what we're doing, and 74 00:11:23.980 --> 00:11:25.450 Joseph Murphy: it's a 75 00:11:40.180 --> 00:11:49.299 Paul Davis: Ok. So now you Joel and the other. The rest of the gang all have a new map, and it's going to remain just kind of a work in progress that we continue to 76 00:11:50.190 --> 00:11:51.780 Paul Davis: see. Evolve. 77 00:11:51.790 --> 00:11:57.989 Joseph Murphy: Okay, if I had that before I set the reminder. I would have replaced the old one with that. But that's okay. 78 00:11:58.100 --> 00:12:00.780 Joseph Murphy: If it If you look at uh 79 00:12:00.820 --> 00:12:06.199 Joseph Murphy: the supporting documents that are currently up there on the on the board. 80 00:12:06.210 --> 00:12:10.490 Paul Davis: Uh-huh. Uh. They include your old map. So 81 00:12:10.500 --> 00:12:16.000 Paul Davis: yeah, Well, they'll people. Yeah, i'll just we'll just let people know there's a new one. They can take a look at. I'm gonna get some water on it. 82 00:12:16.010 --> 00:12:16.980 Joseph Murphy: Okay, 83 00:12:49.510 --> 00:12:51.310 Paul Davis: So um, 84 00:12:53.210 --> 00:12:56.540 Joseph Murphy: I just added a my nutshell. Second, 85 00:12:56.630 --> 00:12:57.660 Paul Davis: Great 86 00:12:58.330 --> 00:13:01.580 Paul Davis: Great and participants, 87 00:13:02.510 --> 00:13:05.879 Paul Davis: all right, So you and I can each do that stuff which is excellent. 88 00:13:10.780 --> 00:13:13.249 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Okay, it should be my policy. 89 00:13:15.030 --> 00:13:19.170 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: There's one thing I have a little bit confused on. Maybe you understand it. 90 00:13:19.180 --> 00:13:20.480 Okay, I'll try. 91 00:13:20.880 --> 00:13:28.990 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: We have been talking about focusing on one thing and getting it done so that that constitution, 92 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:30.690 Paul Davis: it's it's harder so. 93 00:13:30.700 --> 00:13:36.890 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: And I thought that that was what John Pakka was doing over there on on his property 94 00:13:36.900 --> 00:13:37.990 Paul Davis: Right? 95 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:42.829 Joseph Murphy: So the uh the stuff that Marinous is bringing up on the 96 00:13:42.850 --> 00:13:44.520 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I'm. A 97 00:13:44.890 --> 00:13:46.330 Joseph Murphy: ah 98 00:13:46.610 --> 00:13:47.990 Paul Davis: Virginia Park 99 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:53.810 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: or no triangle Park. The Triangle Park is, is not, is not the priority. 100 00:13:54.350 --> 00:14:05.249 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Well, I think, even if it's not the priority, I think anything good that we can all do together is good to do so. If people have the capacity to push on some other front. Then I think that's not 101 00:14:05.260 --> 00:14:09.270 Joseph Murphy: well. I agree with that. But I just wanted to make sure that we focus on what 102 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:12.419 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: uh John is doing 103 00:14:12.690 --> 00:14:19.229 Joseph Murphy: to make sure that that is is what happens first. I just don't want to lose track of that politically. 104 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:30.490 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Well, i'll tell you what, Joe. I'm almost entirely convinced that John's thing is so much easier to do than any changes to the Park that it will automatically 105 00:14:30.500 --> 00:14:31.530 Joseph Murphy: to be, 106 00:14:31.620 --> 00:14:33.030 Paul Davis: because I think 107 00:14:33.170 --> 00:14:43.600 Paul Davis: the park changes involved the city doing stuff, and i'm just guessing that any city activity is going to add, I mean, you know, just getting them to do anything is a lot more of a challenge. 108 00:14:43.650 --> 00:14:45.979 Joseph Murphy: Okay, yeah, Well, no, I agree. 109 00:14:46.310 --> 00:14:47.439 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: A bigger change, 110 00:14:47.450 --> 00:14:48.719 Joseph Murphy: all right. But um, 111 00:14:51.050 --> 00:14:52.740 Joseph Murphy: Yep, 112 00:14:54.190 --> 00:14:56.610 Paul Davis: yeah, I don't. I think we'll uh, 113 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:08.430 Paul Davis: we'll be able to strike a good balance between things that are easier to do in the short run, and things that take more time and need need more. You know the involvement of additional parties, you know, 114 00:15:09.300 --> 00:15:10.329 Joseph Murphy: right now. 115 00:15:13.390 --> 00:15:14.980 Paul Davis: Um. 116 00:15:15.980 --> 00:15:17.629 Paul Davis: Okay. So, 117 00:15:19.990 --> 00:15:25.719 Paul Davis: Mayor Nu, she can you hear us, my niece? Asked. I'm, asking her to unmute 118 00:15:26.090 --> 00:15:28.460 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: unmute. Nice! 119 00:15:28.610 --> 00:15:30.550 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, she's here. How are you, 120 00:15:32.390 --> 00:15:38.489 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Bernice? I'm: Well, how are you? I'm fine, Thank you. Good. 121 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:40.410 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Um. 122 00:15:41.670 --> 00:15:52.959 Paul Davis: Well, I renew she'll see shortly that um, the slightly evolved Venice Parks map now includes a more clear and defined version of the the park that you've been so involved with. 123 00:15:53.560 --> 00:15:57.670 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Thank you. Yeah, for the uh triangle part right? 124 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:01.250 Paul Davis: Well, well both Triangle and the Dog Park. 125 00:16:01.660 --> 00:16:06.500 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Well, the dog Park. Ooh! It's a big project. I did amazing 126 00:16:06.910 --> 00:16:17.690 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: um triangle. I just did a little sketches so we can, You know, just generalize that everybody likes it. And then it needs to be more detailed and read. And 127 00:16:17.700 --> 00:16:18.740 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: yeah, 128 00:16:19.430 --> 00:16:22.980 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: so it's just it's basic concepts for the triangle 129 00:16:23.140 --> 00:16:26.040 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: by the dark cargo got the whole thing going. 130 00:16:26.050 --> 00:16:31.589 Paul Davis: I was actually at meetings all day Long and Haven't even seen what you sent over. But we can look at it all together. Yeah, 131 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:33.290 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: yeah, it's uh 132 00:16:33.300 --> 00:16:38.059 Joseph Murphy: It's one of the supporting documents I included what she? 133 00:16:38.180 --> 00:16:41.810 Joseph Murphy: If you look at these uh supporting documents, 134 00:16:42.370 --> 00:16:44.620 Joseph Murphy: you see that there's a 135 00:16:44.730 --> 00:16:53.310 Joseph Murphy: A. Pdf. File entitled me to Triangle Park design Options and Marnish and John comments 136 00:16:54.460 --> 00:16:55.290 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: you, 137 00:16:55.300 --> 00:16:58.829 you know that's one of them better than the other one we made yesterday, 138 00:16:59.430 --> 00:17:07.560 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: and I had five or six options. I don't know if anybody wants to see it. But this seems to me more the simplest ones alone. 139 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:12.669 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: And uh, John, like toe number one. 140 00:17:13.280 --> 00:17:16.630 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: But I did number two Anyway, it's crazy. 141 00:17:17.869 --> 00:17:22.810 Joseph Murphy: So how can we just put that up here because they're both listed there? 142 00:17:24.270 --> 00:17:25.760 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I don't know. 143 00:17:27.270 --> 00:17:42.489 Joseph Murphy: How do I share the screen? Okay, let me. Ah! Reced her. I do know that Jim thought he cleared it up for either you or I to share the screen. So do you have a share screen button at the bottom of your overall. 144 00:17:42.500 --> 00:17:43.520 Paul Davis: Yeah, 145 00:17:43.950 --> 00:17:46.489 Paul Davis: I mean it should be on that. 146 00:17:46.500 --> 00:17:51.780 Paul Davis: Yeah, is there is Marinusha's sketch on your desktop, because you you generally want to probably put it on your desktop, I think. 147 00:18:07.610 --> 00:18:13.089 Joseph Murphy: Well, i'm not used to doing this, but let me see if I can do it now that it doesn't speed, 148 00:18:13.100 --> 00:18:15.490 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: you call to 149 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:24.859 Paul Davis: let me let me. Just. I want to download the Graphic here real quick. So Mayor Niche. Yes, okay. So we got to the 150 00:18:24.900 --> 00:18:26.430 Paul Davis: option one, 151 00:18:26.970 --> 00:18:27.990 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: It's: 152 00:18:28.010 --> 00:18:29.190 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, Yeah, 153 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:31.630 Paul Davis: Okay, This is going to be easy for me to share. Joe. 154 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:32.890 Paul Davis: Want me to do it right now. 155 00:18:32.900 --> 00:18:34.210 Joseph Murphy: Yeah, go ahead, 156 00:18:34.470 --> 00:18:35.490 Paul Davis: all right. 157 00:18:35.500 --> 00:18:38.950 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Well, that's amazing. That's a good thing to do. 158 00:18:39.410 --> 00:18:42.100 Paul Davis: So all right. So here we are, seeing 159 00:18:43.570 --> 00:18:52.089 Paul Davis: whoops me just back out of here. Okay? So that is a a version. Uh, yes, indeed. You're seeing the whole thing. Never a news, right? 160 00:18:52.100 --> 00:18:59.989 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah. I didn't. I didn't lay down in the play areas too much work, But that's that areas they've got. 161 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:02.770 Joseph Murphy: Uh! Are you taking that right off of the uh? 162 00:19:02.970 --> 00:19:04.260 Joseph Murphy: Ah, 163 00:19:05.220 --> 00:19:06.410 Joseph Murphy: ah, 164 00:19:07.100 --> 00:19:08.200 Paul Davis: you know 165 00:19:09.290 --> 00:19:11.920 Joseph Murphy: i'm what No, they uh 166 00:19:14.410 --> 00:19:18.859 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Oh, from your email or no. No, I I just took it out of Marinis's email. 167 00:19:18.870 --> 00:19:21.889 Joseph Murphy: It's a supporting document up there on the web. 168 00:19:22.410 --> 00:19:23.790 Paul Davis: Aha! Okay, 169 00:19:23.800 --> 00:19:28.139 Paul Davis: uh wait. Meaning that in your email it's one of the documents. 170 00:19:28.940 --> 00:19:33.250 Joseph Murphy: It's not in the email. It's on the web itself. It's part of the the 171 00:19:33.340 --> 00:19:36.870 Joseph Murphy: if you go to the website of our meeting, 172 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:38.510 Joseph Murphy: there's 173 00:19:39.620 --> 00:19:40.760 people are so 174 00:19:41.460 --> 00:19:46.649 Joseph Murphy: the July Excuse me of the August, the twenty eighth 175 00:19:46.950 --> 00:19:48.200 Joseph Murphy: Median. 176 00:19:48.360 --> 00:19:50.139 Joseph Murphy: You'll find it up there, 177 00:19:50.490 --> 00:19:52.440 I see. So you want me to do that. 178 00:19:52.450 --> 00:19:57.200 Joseph Murphy: Yeah, do that because I put all of them there. And 179 00:19:58.950 --> 00:20:02.459 Paul Davis: all right, let me just go to that right now. Uh 180 00:20:03.610 --> 00:20:06.600 Paul Davis: so, Joe Murphy. 181 00:20:06.940 --> 00:20:11.980 Paul Davis: So you're saying the website What? I don't even know. I've never done that before. What is the website? 182 00:20:12.510 --> 00:20:14.240 Joseph Murphy: It's on. 183 00:20:14.360 --> 00:20:17.980 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: It's right there. I can see it right next to the map. 184 00:20:19.050 --> 00:20:25.190 Paul Davis: Oh, Oh, I see. Okay, You're just talking about the email, Joe, right? Anyway. Here it is the 185 00:20:26.340 --> 00:20:28.229 Joseph Murphy: what are you going to do? Yeah. 186 00:20:28.770 --> 00:20:32.410 Joseph Murphy: Okay. So that that's the two of them. That's right. 187 00:20:32.570 --> 00:20:40.089 Joseph Murphy: Bernoulli's Triangle Park Possible ideas? And then there's the number one and number two, and then if you scroll down the 188 00:20:40.190 --> 00:20:45.010 Joseph Murphy: you'll see Bernoulli's comments, and then you'll see John's comments. The 189 00:20:45.020 --> 00:20:46.560 Paul Davis: I see okay great 190 00:20:49.350 --> 00:20:51.520 Joseph Murphy: in the in that. 191 00:20:51.530 --> 00:20:54.889 Joseph Murphy: And what's there? John is not doesn't 192 00:20:55.340 --> 00:21:01.399 Joseph Murphy: say that he's backing one over the other, but Mary Nush was talking with him yesterday, so 193 00:21:01.830 --> 00:21:06.849 Joseph Murphy: and he can't make it yet to our meeting, because he's got a he's got a conflict. 194 00:21:06.860 --> 00:21:07.970 Paul Davis: Yes, 195 00:21:08.010 --> 00:21:15.360 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: it kind of like number one better. I guess it's simpler and easier to do so. 196 00:21:15.370 --> 00:21:18.839 Joseph Murphy: Yeah, but he's also saying me, there is that uh, 197 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:22.270 Joseph Murphy: uh, it may be uh 198 00:21:22.940 --> 00:21:25.180 Joseph Murphy: well, let's just read what he says. 199 00:21:26.150 --> 00:21:27.200 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: It's a 200 00:21:27.210 --> 00:21:28.410 go down to it. 201 00:21:28.420 --> 00:21:36.759 Joseph Murphy: Yeah. Okay. Well, it's it. Are we starting our meeting, or I guess the question is, who else is coming to the meeting. We don't have a quorum yet, so we can just talk. 202 00:21:36.770 --> 00:21:38.730 Paul Davis: Okay, Um, 203 00:21:39.030 --> 00:21:43.400 Paul Davis: I see. I've just I've read both of these. I think that 204 00:21:43.750 --> 00:21:56.649 Paul Davis: I think that the I guess the last time we all met I thought we were going to try to do something very easy and fast, because we thought that to do something easy and fast would be the best way to kind of maintain 205 00:21:56.660 --> 00:22:09.380 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: moment, you know, start building momentum. I think this. These both look very cool. They seem like substantially more work than I thought we were talking about. But, 206 00:22:09.390 --> 00:22:36.260 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: eh? Yeah, I was so when I went on the drop side, and we're we're up and down the play area triangle. That's definitely. We can't build it, but the the rest of it is kind of like vacant, and not um, not uh deal with toys. I mean a bay area or tools. Yeah. So we figured. Well, that's the area where the parents can come have planters and what it is is all fenced around the area, 207 00:22:36.780 --> 00:22:54.039 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: and it's not so private. So I figure if I put the planters around where the fence is, and then be able to put, you know the Bring up the middle trellis 208 00:22:54.050 --> 00:23:02.409 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: so they will run out there and run over, and it provide shapes, sure. So I tried a different 209 00:23:02.550 --> 00:23:05.589 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: oh, kind of shapes, and so on. But 210 00:23:05.600 --> 00:23:09.710 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: but it's basically metal mesh going up. And 211 00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:14.390 for a year, you know, greenery growing up on the side and going up over it. 212 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:19.429 Paul Davis: Mm-hmm I do. We have any pictures of the Park now, so everyone can see what's there Now 213 00:23:19.690 --> 00:23:29.629 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I don't know i'm gonna send it to you. But could you email me a few? Then I could screen share them. 214 00:23:30.430 --> 00:23:34.370 Paul Davis: We could uh let the gang see What's there now, you know. 215 00:23:35.230 --> 00:23:36.540 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, 216 00:23:43.970 --> 00:23:47.530 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Okay, let's see what we got. 217 00:23:47.910 --> 00:23:50.280 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Be patient, Malay villain, 218 00:23:50.290 --> 00:23:51.590 Paul Davis: Take your time. 219 00:24:06.210 --> 00:24:08.170 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Too many followers here. 220 00:24:10.750 --> 00:24:11.990 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Okay, 221 00:24:13.500 --> 00:24:17.250 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: forward 222 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:22.429 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Um. And this one. Now tell me if I didn't know 223 00:24:23.360 --> 00:24:24.440 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: ten. 224 00:24:46.570 --> 00:24:50.590 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Okay, Paul, what's it? What should I send it to? 225 00:24:50.600 --> 00:24:54.709 Paul Davis: You can send it to Davis at Paul Davis? Architects Com. Here's Joel Comey, 226 00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:56.220 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: hey? There you well! 227 00:25:00.190 --> 00:25:07.699 Paul Davis: Oh, marvelous! Hold on, let's see. So Joe and I are both host. Let me see where you are. We didn't know that you'd come on, but we will bring you in. Hold on one moment. 228 00:25:08.020 --> 00:25:11.989 Joseph Murphy: Oh, there's five participants, one, two, three, four, 229 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.860 Paul Davis: yeah, Joe, Can you bring everyone else in there. Other people out there 230 00:25:15.430 --> 00:25:21.729 Joseph Murphy: there's five participants. So I do what I can, Joel and Isabel right? Okay, You 231 00:25:38.700 --> 00:25:41.090 Joseph Murphy: okay. Ah, 232 00:25:43.130 --> 00:25:46.769 Joseph Murphy: I think everybody's on and can can talk. 233 00:25:47.010 --> 00:25:51.629 Paul Davis: Looks yeah. I just tried to promote everyone to panelist. I'll bet we're on we're making progress. 234 00:25:53.010 --> 00:25:54.230 Isabelle Duvivier: I live. 235 00:25:55.120 --> 00:25:59.580 Isabelle Duvivier: It always takes us a few while they lined up. 236 00:25:59.770 --> 00:26:01.290 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: It is of the last night. 237 00:26:01.300 --> 00:26:03.099 Joseph Murphy: I'm mute yourself, Joel, 238 00:26:03.620 --> 00:26:05.530 but it's in black. 239 00:26:05.670 --> 00:26:10.809 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Um! 240 00:26:11.250 --> 00:26:13.849 Joseph Murphy: There you go. Okay, Joe. Well can talk now 241 00:26:13.860 --> 00:26:15.999 Joseph Murphy: and then. There's uh, 242 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:19.470 Joseph Murphy: Isabel. 243 00:26:19.660 --> 00:26:22.209 Paul Davis: Yes, indeed! Hi! 244 00:26:22.360 --> 00:26:23.590 Joseph Murphy: Hi! Azabelle! 245 00:26:23.600 --> 00:26:25.159 Paul Davis: Hello, there, you guys, 246 00:26:27.060 --> 00:26:30.609 Paul Davis: We're getting our gang here, which is very nice, of course. 247 00:26:32.610 --> 00:26:38.539 Joseph Murphy: Okay, hi his bill. We do have a quorum now, so we can start the meeting, 248 00:26:38.590 --> 00:26:41.320 Joseph Murphy: which is to 249 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:54.650 Joseph Murphy: allow any other speakers. But since there's nobody here except members of the committee that that will skip that, and just go directly to the discussion, which is where we are now. 250 00:26:57.190 --> 00:27:00.449 Joseph Murphy: I'm taking liberties. But uh, really, it'll work out. 251 00:27:01.810 --> 00:27:04.789 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: So do you want to call the meeting to order? 252 00:27:04.800 --> 00:27:07.990 Joseph Murphy: Yeah, the call the meeting to order 253 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:09.190 Joseph Murphy: That's what I thought I did 254 00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:12.290 Joseph Murphy: perfect, perfect, perfect, Okay, Great 255 00:27:12.300 --> 00:27:15.670 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: all. I send it to your email. See if you got it. 256 00:27:15.820 --> 00:27:18.740 Paul Davis: Okay, let me check that right now. Uh, 257 00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:24.440 Paul Davis: let me check that right now. Okay. So here I go checking that. And 258 00:27:25.510 --> 00:27:41.430 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: um guys, we're We're just seeing right now. If Marnushk has been successful, send me a few photos of Triangle Park, because we we have some design ideas that her and she has been talking about with John, and that we can look at in sketch form so 259 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:50.419 Paul Davis: ideally. We will learn here in a moment that we have photos to share with everyone of the park itself, just for visual orientation. 260 00:27:51.080 --> 00:28:03.090 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: They're not here yet, but i'll bet they will come in very soon. So let me just count. Yeah, i'll try again. Resolution. They need a few minutes to come. 261 00:28:03.100 --> 00:28:06.970 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, They went to your email. There were a few of the photos on the side here. 262 00:28:06.980 --> 00:28:13.320 Paul Davis: Okay? Well, Joe, have it. Do you want to, Joe? Just kind of kick off discussions, and then we'll come back around to our news topics. 263 00:28:13.710 --> 00:28:18.159 Joseph Murphy: Yeah, I like to. Well, John's not here. But I 264 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:30.279 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I want to be clear in my mind that the first, the first thing that we want to get done is is, I have John's 265 00:28:31.010 --> 00:28:35.530 Joseph Murphy: for children up and running, so that we can report that to the board, 266 00:28:35.970 --> 00:28:39.829 Joseph Murphy: and that'll be our first success of this motion that we've 267 00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:41.760 Joseph Murphy: taking on 268 00:28:41.980 --> 00:28:42.789 to be. 269 00:28:42.800 --> 00:28:49.199 Joseph Murphy: And Joe has. Has John said anything about his progress on that front, or is he still just kind of working on This 270 00:28:49.320 --> 00:28:56.860 Joseph Murphy: did not receive anything beyond his words. On the 271 00:28:57.140 --> 00:29:07.610 Joseph Murphy: Triangle Park that marnush is working on. So no, I don't have any update on that part. But maybe maybe Joel does. 272 00:29:08.690 --> 00:29:11.440 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: No, I don't. Okay. 273 00:29:13.410 --> 00:29:15.440 Joseph Murphy: So 274 00:29:16.510 --> 00:29:20.290 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: to contact a lot of agencies. 275 00:29:20.690 --> 00:29:25.430 Paul Davis: Why, Don't, we move vigorously to a discussion of the Triangle Park? Then how about that? 276 00:29:26.940 --> 00:29:28.510 Joseph Murphy: That's fine by me. 277 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:35.689 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Okay, Mayor Loose? Would you like to? 278 00:29:36.080 --> 00:29:37.639 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Can't get me out? 279 00:29:37.650 --> 00:29:46.089 Paul Davis: Okay, Marnisha. I was just let me see if your email come in here. But I was. I was saying maybe you could make a report about what you and John, 280 00:29:47.500 --> 00:29:53.170 Joelle: and that's funny. 281 00:29:53.810 --> 00:29:57.749 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I'm trying to get my audio going here, too. 282 00:29:58.690 --> 00:30:13.829 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I'm going to go share. I'm going to screen. Share your diagrams, and maybe you can introduce what you and John have been doing, and then we can talk about that just where we stand, Jo. You want to look at diagrams first, or look at the the written letter between. 283 00:30:13.980 --> 00:30:17.899 Joseph Murphy: I think that the diagrams and the letters are relevant. 284 00:30:17.910 --> 00:30:18.690 Joseph Murphy: Finally: 285 00:30:18.700 --> 00:30:27.639 Paul Davis: Okay, Yeah. Good point. They're both here together. So let's okay. I'm gonna do a screen share and we will be able to see them 286 00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:30.689 guys. I think you can see now a screen share. Is that correct? 287 00:30:30.700 --> 00:30:40.759 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yes, all right. So why Don't? We start with the letter? Because the letter kind of talks about what these two have been doing. Marinous, Would you like to describe what we're seeing here? Roughly? 288 00:30:40.770 --> 00:30:51.890 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Um, yes, there's a pretty much a schematic idea. My our objective was when we were there that there would be a place where it's, landscape and 289 00:30:51.900 --> 00:31:01.769 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: and shade for parents that can sit around, and the kids, and so on, and there'll be a grass area because the rest of it is sand, and so on, and the 290 00:31:01.820 --> 00:31:17.060 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: um playground is going to remain, or all these we are not going to touch her, but just some portion of by the third of the property, which is really small. Um could be a little like shaded area for the parents to sit or kids it. 291 00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:21.519 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: And it's just a sitting area Basically, 292 00:31:22.870 --> 00:31:30.190 Paul Davis: Bernice: we're looking at the letters here, and it's corrected. You and John walked over there right? Did you go together, or 293 00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:49.329 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, We We went there to start with. We looked at it, kind of, you know, went through the you know what it might be nice about the area might be. Now, if you look at the sunrise and where the sun comes in and get some shape, and then I went ahead and um. I measured the place, and I did six or seven 294 00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:56.229 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: concepts, but I showed him like three or four of them, but we kind of resolved that in maybe two 295 00:31:56.950 --> 00:32:00.060 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: um for it just 296 00:32:00.170 --> 00:32:16.289 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: much simpler. Some of it would have been, maybe more difficult to do. And so there' been a schematic area just going to be screens. It's going to be metals and greenery going over it. 297 00:32:16.300 --> 00:32:21.589 Paul Davis: Okay, So you're since you're describing a design, I've just rolled the screen up to look at the two sketches. And 298 00:32:21.600 --> 00:32:27.089 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: yeah. So now that people can see these, what do you want to. 299 00:32:27.110 --> 00:32:45.130 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah. Yeah. So basically what i'm trying to do is where the plants are going to be growing. It's going to be against the fence because there's no privacy and defense, and the driveway behind it, and the street side too. So if things are growing there, they go up on on the 300 00:32:45.140 --> 00:32:51.799 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: the trellis area, or I mean pergola, and around there 301 00:32:52.730 --> 00:32:56.759 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: planting area. It's going to be seats where you can sit around 302 00:32:56.890 --> 00:33:02.339 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: and the rest of it. I mean our topic, John, where he was really 303 00:33:02.500 --> 00:33:07.890 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: prefer to have grass area there, where there's, you know, besides a planting area 304 00:33:08.270 --> 00:33:10.169 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: and um, 305 00:33:10.210 --> 00:33:13.290 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: so I don't know if that makes sense. 306 00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:26.089 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: The thought, again, is, this is a shady place where adults can sit and have community happiness while kids are playing, is that 307 00:33:26.100 --> 00:33:27.590 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: that's the 308 00:33:27.600 --> 00:33:29.189 Yes, that's subjective. 309 00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:41.090 Paul Davis: All right. So let's look at the second one. So we here we're seeing metal mesh pergola elements that are on three diagonally-oriented pieces. You imagine them growing vines like, you know, having vines growing up on them? Yeah, 310 00:33:41.100 --> 00:33:47.789 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: yes, yes. And then there there are planter areas that are bordered by benches as kind of the planter edge condition. Right? 311 00:33:47.800 --> 00:33:55.990 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yes, exactly. Thank you. And and grass. Okay, perfect. So then let us go to the second one, and you want to. Why don't you tell us about that? If you don't mind 312 00:33:56.000 --> 00:34:10.039 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: it's ah, basically the same concept. But it just has a different shape of the trellis that I mean down pergola and thinner and different directions. And I thought maybe that'll make it more interesting, too, 313 00:34:10.540 --> 00:34:21.090 Paul Davis: and I think we've a lot of us have probably seen these like their powder-coded metal mesh. Often they're green painted They are frames that are made to have vines for over them Right? 314 00:34:21.100 --> 00:34:22.729 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yes, exactly. 315 00:34:22.739 --> 00:34:32.290 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I Haven't selected the color yet, but it's primarily a mesh. It has to be selected, and then the greenery that goes over. It's pretty much going to cover it hopefully. 316 00:34:32.300 --> 00:34:50.389 Paul Davis: Okay. So so my initials, everyone is here. That's just because I think it's not bad to kind of catch up and understand together when we last talked about Triangle Park. I think we were saying that maybe there could be some benches, and I think we certainly love the idea of some kind of shade. I think this is. This: looks like a more ambitious design 317 00:34:50.400 --> 00:35:07.390 Paul Davis: initiative, which is, you know, of course, a very good thing, I mean, I guess the what the committee could talk about is our sense of whether the relative challenge of this, as opposed to something that involves elements that might be already in city yards, you know, et cetera 318 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:14.990 Paul Davis: is something that we want to commit ourselves to, even though it might take longer and just be less easy to realize. 319 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.889 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, that's what John's memo is kind of about right? 320 00:35:17.900 --> 00:35:36.490 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah. Um, whichever one yeah, he wants. Well, they have to get a lot of approvals from different committees. Um! But whichever one we might pick tonight, I don't want to refine it, you know, if um modify it and make it sure it's everything. It's in detail. Okay, and three down and so on. 321 00:35:36.500 --> 00:35:42.699 Paul Davis: Can you guys all read John's memo, or should we paraphrase it real quick or What? What's useful here? 322 00:35:44.200 --> 00:35:48.019 Joseph Murphy: It's easy enough to read unless somebody wants it. 323 00:35:51.890 --> 00:36:10.749 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: So I think I mean, John is saying here that kind of next steps would be to identify the process by which we can present a park improvement idea hopefully get it approved. What agencies do we see who are leaders to talk to. And then he's talking about building a coalition of folks who would get behind this. And so we can basically say that we represent a lot of people who love this idea 324 00:36:10.890 --> 00:36:13.480 Paul Davis: when we go talk to the world, 325 00:36:14.820 --> 00:36:16.640 Joseph Murphy: y'all are 326 00:36:16.970 --> 00:36:19.810 Joseph Murphy: my cut it uh 327 00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:27.590 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: what we're really trying to do overall is to build that coalition of folks to support whatever we come up with. 328 00:36:27.600 --> 00:36:36.770 Paul Davis: So we're doing that already. And that's to build a community where basically 329 00:36:37.390 --> 00:36:41.209 Joseph Murphy: children, but also their parents and others could actually 330 00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:45.019 Joseph Murphy: uh, come and sit and talk with one another. And 331 00:36:45.260 --> 00:36:51.930 Joseph Murphy: if you get that sense of community that that the whole idea is geared towards creating. 332 00:36:53.180 --> 00:37:03.890 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Well, absolutely, I think we all agree that something that offers these kinds of amenities in a little park like this would be wonderful, and the you know, people who could use it would be happy. 333 00:37:03.900 --> 00:37:07.130 Joseph Murphy: Yeah. Other areas that have kind of bubbled up 334 00:37:07.210 --> 00:37:12.480 Joseph Murphy: the communications that that I've tried to keep everybody aware of the 335 00:37:12.540 --> 00:37:25.859 Joseph Murphy: has been. Ah! All your contact with Oakwood Park and others that I know of that are interested in making that as sort of a center, and it may already be one that is a dog park 336 00:37:26.050 --> 00:37:33.799 Joseph Murphy: that Sandy Bleifer has talked about, and that also includes 337 00:37:33.930 --> 00:37:37.440 Joseph Murphy: some ideas that Marnush has come up with, 338 00:37:37.600 --> 00:37:39.140 Joseph Murphy: and 339 00:37:40.240 --> 00:37:44.750 Joseph Murphy: let's see what else is there? Those are? 340 00:37:45.170 --> 00:37:49.619 Joseph Murphy: Well, I think of that. I personally think of the Westminster School area 341 00:37:49.820 --> 00:37:55.849 Joseph Murphy: which there's some interest and statewide and also citywide to you. 342 00:37:56.010 --> 00:37:57.089 Joseph Murphy: Ah, 343 00:37:57.700 --> 00:38:05.779 Joseph Murphy: do something with hot parking areas that will. That will be 344 00:38:05.890 --> 00:38:09.059 Joseph Murphy: better suited for children if you can. 345 00:38:09.130 --> 00:38:19.739 Joseph Murphy: You know plant trees there rather than having them as not as they are, and maybe redo the surface. So these are all ideas that are out there that I hope we're 346 00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:35.770 Joseph Murphy: we're kind of thinking about. But let's. My My attitude is Let's get something really done and and notoriously done and well done First, then, we then people will listen to us more. It's political 347 00:38:36.050 --> 00:38:37.509 that doesn't 348 00:38:37.520 --> 00:38:53.470 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: go ahead, sir. I'm sorry I was just you were talking about the heart surfaces, and so on a lot of parking. I was what driving by Mark Twain school, and I looked at You know It's like a lot of 349 00:38:54.770 --> 00:38:57.530 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: heart surface. Nothing there. 350 00:38:57.570 --> 00:39:01.889 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: It's too much what the Mark Mark Twain school is another one you're saying. 351 00:39:01.900 --> 00:39:12.629 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yes, okay. There's there's uh too much heart surfaces like a lot of It's a big area. There's no part There's no sitting area There's no landscaping. 352 00:39:12.770 --> 00:39:16.360 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I don't know it. Could it? A lot more stuff could happen there? 353 00:39:17.180 --> 00:39:37.749 Paul Davis: I want to ask Isabel one question, Isabel, and you're in your um work with, You know local public spaces and parks and and landscape improvements. Do you have a sense; for how easy it might be to have the city do more to improve a park with the kinds of elements that we may not be seeing in other parts so far, I mean any feeling for all that. 354 00:39:37.970 --> 00:39:43.589 Isabelle Duvivier: I think you're talking mostly about rap property, right? Wreck and park property. 355 00:39:43.600 --> 00:39:47.450 Paul Davis: Yeah, I think so. That's right. Initially, in terms of Triangle Park. Right? 356 00:39:47.810 --> 00:39:50.560 Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah. So um 357 00:39:51.410 --> 00:40:07.809 Isabelle Duvivier: rap is they're a little difficult to work with. They need to feel like they can trust their partners, and typically the way people work with rap nowadays and are able to actually get things done is by 358 00:40:07.820 --> 00:40:22.490 Paul Davis: having things donated, and then it still has to go through the board. They have to still prepare a board report, and it has to get voted on by the board, but otherwise there's no money to do park improvements, 359 00:40:22.500 --> 00:40:23.189 Paul Davis: right? 360 00:40:23.200 --> 00:40:41.549 Isabelle Duvivier: So I've noticed that a lot of organizations, especially like the La Parks Foundation. They've sort of gotten themselves on a role where they regularly show up at the rap board meetings and present tree plantings for different parks or 361 00:40:41.560 --> 00:40:54.670 Isabelle Duvivier: um groups will. Ah! I saw Marvista. Ah, Neighborhood Council. They donated money for the new floors, and so that kind of thing happens, but it's it's a little bit um. 362 00:40:55.310 --> 00:41:11.200 Isabelle Duvivier: It takes a lot of time. So our group, Ferdinand Venice group, has two partnerships right now that we're working on with rap. We met with them last week, and they approved that we'll have to go through the Board of 363 00:41:11.210 --> 00:41:25.110 Paul Davis: Report Process. They approved to allow us to plant some trees at the Venice Dog Park, and we're talking to them about doing some sand dune restoration work, but some very minimal 364 00:41:25.120 --> 00:41:54.830 Paul Davis: work that won't Trigger any Coastal coastal review. So I had my hand raised because I was wondering. You know the dog Park is actually on a giant Sandburn, and it makes this area really very unique. I have a client who lives on between Main Street and ocean, and her property is still all sand and left to its own devices. All 365 00:41:54.840 --> 00:42:06.030 Isabelle Duvivier: and sand dune seeds have started to sprout, and she's got dune verbina. So those are some of the things we're talking about trying to allow to grow on the 366 00:42:06.130 --> 00:42:22.469 Paul Davis: the sand dunes on the beach, and can't get funding to irrigate the grass the way they used to. And there's also lots of trees that will grow, not lots. But there are several species of trees that really like to have their feet in the sand. 367 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:41.279 Paul Davis: I'm wondering the Triangle Park. I wonder do we know why it's sand with sand just dumps there? Or is there a possibility that that is part of a sand-do network? I think that may be a no question. But i'm just not sure why it's so 368 00:42:42.130 --> 00:42:44.750 Paul Davis: interesting. So yeah, um, 369 00:42:45.650 --> 00:42:49.289 Paul Davis: I don't think we know, but it's a good That would be a cool thing to find out. 370 00:42:49.300 --> 00:42:54.689 Paul Davis: Is it? Is the Bernoulli. I don't think I saw your photos yet, but it's the whole thing, Sandy, basically now. 371 00:42:54.700 --> 00:42:56.109 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Um, 372 00:42:56.120 --> 00:43:01.279 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: yes, it is. And then there is a place where there you you play games similar to um. 373 00:43:01.870 --> 00:43:09.489 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I mean, they got there. There's a coverage for that for stereo. And then there's yeah, there you go. 374 00:43:09.640 --> 00:43:11.590 Isabelle Duvivier: Is that okay? That I shared that 375 00:43:11.600 --> 00:43:13.389 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: perfect, perfect, beautiful? Yeah, 376 00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.049 Paul Davis: very nice. Exactly. 377 00:43:15.060 --> 00:43:17.230 Isabelle Duvivier: I mean also. Um, 378 00:43:20.430 --> 00:43:24.750 Isabelle Duvivier: yes, I just don't know if that was like delivered there, or if 379 00:43:25.160 --> 00:43:33.890 Isabelle Duvivier: if there's a natural due network there, it would just be some something further to explore. As you consider what you'd want to put there, 380 00:43:33.900 --> 00:43:36.800 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: i'll bet it was delivered. But but 381 00:43:37.050 --> 00:43:43.890 Paul Davis: Bernoulli, of course there is. That looks like there's kind of a jungle gym play structure component down at the end where you're thinking of a shady area, Right? 382 00:43:43.900 --> 00:43:57.189 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yes, but I was thinking that thing can be moved somewhere else on the side over here, you know, near there, but it's not much happening there, so that area would be the sitting and shaded area. 383 00:43:57.200 --> 00:44:04.299 Paul Davis: Yeah, Yeah. Well, this parking looks wonderful and yet obviously barren and a little bit scorched by the sun for sure. 384 00:44:04.310 --> 00:44:14.229 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah. And the walkway stays. But you see there's fence there, and there's no landscaping. So some of the landscaping will help the visuals, and you know privacy, and so on. 385 00:44:14.290 --> 00:44:31.179 Paul Davis: So Isabelle is that you're feeling. It's possible that a kind of a real enhancement of that pointed end there with things like, you know, powder, coded grid, trellis, purple elements. If we, if we could raise money and and that stuff with with design drawings, the city could go for it. 386 00:44:31.330 --> 00:44:42.689 Isabelle Duvivier: Well, that starts getting a little more complicated. I'm talking about stuff as simple as planting a tree in the ground. Now you're talking about structural elements that require an engineer. 387 00:44:42.700 --> 00:44:50.879 Paul Davis: Exactly. I don't know. I suddenly start to get just a tad bit nervous. But you guys should just go for it. And 388 00:44:50.890 --> 00:45:06.759 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: but as area that we're doing the shading and so on, it's just sad, but it might be replaced with grass area anyway, So past and landscaping so the rest of it. The rest of it stays the sand and everything else for the 389 00:45:11.560 --> 00:45:26.789 Paul Davis: I mean. The great thing about asking for more, even if they're not prepared to give it to us, is that they could. Then we could. Then they could bargain us down to to substantially less, and we could still be delighted, and they would feel like they were doing us a favor by saying as to something, 390 00:45:28.790 --> 00:45:37.149 Isabelle Duvivier: could you? Would you consider um instead of a cool architectural element? Would you consider 391 00:45:37.160 --> 00:45:53.889 Isabelle Duvivier: putting up a trellis and then finding the irrigation that may exist in the Park, and then trying to connect to that and have like a vine or something. I'm just thinking how to simplify it. I mean, you guys go any way you want. But i'm really afraid that unless it's an off the shelf 392 00:45:53.900 --> 00:46:04.620 Paul Davis: previously approves shade device right? But I know Marnush has the wherewithal to go through it and 393 00:46:04.630 --> 00:46:15.649 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: get it. We approved. But I'm: Yeah, i'm trying to. I'm trying to go in a simple way. Just get some shape, you know, with the trellis work and so on. It's not the big major structural. 394 00:46:15.660 --> 00:46:16.490 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah. But 395 00:46:16.500 --> 00:46:23.710 and the plan is safe for maybe a play area. But over there it might be nicer to have a grass, but that's not a major issue 396 00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:32.589 Joseph Murphy: seen in the Duck Park. There is like a three-poed shade structure made with one of those, you know. 397 00:46:32.600 --> 00:46:39.090 Paul Davis: Yeah, the city clearly knows about those, and obviously, as has, you know, worked with that over at the Duck Park. 398 00:46:39.100 --> 00:46:41.160 Joseph Murphy: So a question, 399 00:46:41.470 --> 00:46:42.890 Joseph Murphy: if I may. 400 00:46:42.900 --> 00:46:43.589 Paul Davis: First, 401 00:46:43.600 --> 00:46:45.429 Joseph Murphy: the mayor nurse, 402 00:46:46.270 --> 00:46:52.590 Joseph Murphy: does your design incorporate the play structures that are already there? 403 00:46:52.600 --> 00:46:56.390 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: There remain. There is no reason to change those around there. 404 00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:57.570 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: There are many. 405 00:46:57.580 --> 00:47:03.649 Joseph Murphy: They would remain there because I like the ideas play areas for for the children. 406 00:47:03.660 --> 00:47:06.679 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, they remain there. All that stays. Okay, Good. 407 00:47:06.690 --> 00:47:15.189 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Oh, That's it. Just the past that line where you see the the blue columns are there for some of these. 408 00:47:15.200 --> 00:47:18.920 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, those that that's the area that gets um, 409 00:47:20.040 --> 00:47:23.790 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: that would be grass, or you're saying, or 410 00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:29.889 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: yeah, that would be grass with the shade, and there would be benches around so that people could sit down. 411 00:47:29.900 --> 00:47:36.990 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yes, he has planters, benches and grass, and and then an overhead um support structure for vines and planes. 412 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:37.890 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: It's a 413 00:47:37.900 --> 00:47:41.130 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Basically, metal mesh pergolans. 414 00:47:41.830 --> 00:48:00.940 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Nothing too much structural. It is not needed, but just the fact that you have. Ah, you need the landscaping around to make things grow there, and then you have seed around it. So so you got landscaping fence, and then seed, and so nice combination. 415 00:48:02.900 --> 00:48:15.029 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Well, there's, I think there's no doubt at all that what you've conceived of marinous would be an amazing feature and addition here and this, you know, the people who enjoy the park would just love it So it's. I mean it would be great to make it happen. 416 00:48:15.040 --> 00:48:17.809 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Which one would you prefer? One or two, 417 00:48:19.540 --> 00:48:22.339 Paul Davis: I guess, in my mind the 418 00:48:22.770 --> 00:48:35.489 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: well, I think that the one with the simple parallel bars is, you know, easier to pull off and more kind of definitive in its job. The other one is more fun and frisky, but probably a lot more expensive. 419 00:48:35.500 --> 00:48:39.890 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, I think that I think number one is probably more able to be realized. 420 00:48:39.900 --> 00:48:42.590 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I agree. Okay, 421 00:48:42.900 --> 00:48:44.890 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: more manageable for sure. 422 00:48:44.900 --> 00:48:53.889 Paul Davis: But you know at Marion Shefford in scale. I'm not sure how big the gaps are between the panels, but maybe the gaps narrow a bit, so there's more shade, and so you wouldn't have so much sun coming through. 423 00:48:53.900 --> 00:48:54.490 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, 424 00:48:54.500 --> 00:49:00.590 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I know this is just a start of the point, and i'm glad to hear your opinion, because then it can be fixed up a little bit more. 425 00:49:00.600 --> 00:49:03.090 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, just a schematic of it. You can be 426 00:49:03.100 --> 00:49:03.990 Paul Davis: the curriculum. 427 00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:22.800 Isabelle Duvivier: Can I? Can I just add that one of the reasons that Rap is interested in talking to us about restoring the sand dunes on the beach is because they don't have any money for irrigation, and they are not adding brass back to the sand dunes. So if you don't like the sand there, you might want to think about it. 428 00:49:22.810 --> 00:49:33.090 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Alternative. At one playground we put what's called it's what's it called Exactly. It's kind of like a tumbled mulch 429 00:49:33.100 --> 00:49:51.260 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: as a natural product that doesn't require water, but you're not going to be able to unless you agree to water it yourself with, you know, with with ah Vnc. Money or from the community. They're they're not going to let you put grass down. Yeah, the grass is over. 430 00:49:51.540 --> 00:49:53.589 Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah, that's done. 431 00:49:53.600 --> 00:49:57.639 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I like to get educated and find out about that. Most. 432 00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:00.289 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, it's called. 433 00:50:00.300 --> 00:50:07.400 Isabelle Duvivier: They have it at St. Mark's Elementary. They put that under their play under their play equipment. It's really nice. 434 00:50:07.620 --> 00:50:11.270 Joseph Murphy: So it but is about planning to tree. There is okay, 435 00:50:11.570 --> 00:50:21.890 Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah, because Theresa may really need a lot of water, and our tree group waters the trees. So the city's not required to irrigate it. But grass needs constant irrigation 436 00:50:21.900 --> 00:50:22.689 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: on this. 437 00:50:22.700 --> 00:50:37.360 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: This is more mesh. Ah growing hedge over there versus the trees. I mean. This won't go over it. I don't think this is a big area. If you want to put trees there in a play area somewhere safe, 438 00:50:37.410 --> 00:50:50.089 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: but in that particular area. Maybe one tree would work, but there's a small it's not much room for it in my Tommy provides shading for the fastest amount of room left for the shape. For the 439 00:50:50.100 --> 00:51:09.790 Paul Davis: one more question is, I mean those those grids of metal made for often using, and fences kind of trellis-type arbor fences. If those are horizontal and don't get vines on them, they really wouldn't make much shade because they're so open. They're just little narrow wires by making those things. And I wonder, Isabel, do you think there are plants that we could 440 00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:15.589 Paul Davis: train up over that? That wouldn't need irrigation that could actually be sustainable there, or is that going to be? 441 00:51:15.600 --> 00:51:21.990 Isabelle Duvivier: Well, Nothing would not need any irrigation. But there's things that are more tolerant like Boogan via 442 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:29.100 Paul Davis: right right. It has nice beautiful thorns to keep people from climbing on top. But 443 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:37.289 Isabelle Duvivier: there's yeah, there's a lot of drought tolerant finds that you could put up there, but they would all need some help in the beginning. 444 00:51:37.300 --> 00:51:44.790 Paul Davis: Yeah, but it sounds like we could. We could help them we could. The neighborhood could get together and collaborate on some water in the first six months or so. Just not. 445 00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:45.390 Paul Davis: Yeah, 446 00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:47.499 Paul Davis: not in, not for ten years. 447 00:51:47.510 --> 00:51:48.390 Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah. 448 00:51:49.710 --> 00:51:52.240 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Dungeon. 449 00:51:52.770 --> 00:51:53.979 Paul Davis: Well, 450 00:51:54.430 --> 00:52:03.059 Paul Davis: I guess broadly, it seems like asking, you know, talking about more and pushing for more rather than less is 451 00:52:03.070 --> 00:52:25.909 Paul Davis: I mean, you know, if they're C. Isabel, I mean, if there were elements that were available in yards that could be just brought over and installed in kind of a ready made way. 452 00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:27.330 Paul Davis: But but if we 453 00:52:27.340 --> 00:52:48.419 Paul Davis: you know, I don't, I think we saw a triangle as something where we could do a little bit. It would be great, and and we could kind of roll ahead from there, and and I think at one of the meetings we talked about a campaign broadly of parks where we would do just enough to make a difference, but try to do something, things that were fast fast and easy. One of the things that we're thinking of doing is involving the neighbor, 454 00:52:49.160 --> 00:53:06.030 Joseph Murphy: and that's that's an option, too, because if they like the idea in that immediate neighborhood, then they might be willing to take on some of the tasks that are necessary to get it going well, 455 00:53:07.050 --> 00:53:08.470 Joseph Murphy: and Ah 456 00:53:08.930 --> 00:53:11.079 Joseph Murphy: Reagan's uh, you know, 457 00:53:11.380 --> 00:53:18.189 Joseph Murphy: contact with the mothers is might be a good source of information for that. 458 00:53:18.690 --> 00:53:33.700 Paul Davis: I'm recalling that I committed to talk to our wreck people over here at the their headquarters in Rancho Park, and and that would be a way of starting to get get a sense from them of whether there are elements that are readily available that are easier for them to give us with less processing 459 00:53:33.710 --> 00:53:35.690 Paul Davis: right, and that still is, is a good idea, I think. 460 00:53:35.700 --> 00:53:36.589 Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah, 461 00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:50.119 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: you might just look around and see what other parts have. I would also look at the parks in Santa Monica that are on the beach, and see what kind of 462 00:53:51.770 --> 00:54:00.540 Isabelle Duvivier: you know, if they have any examples of really simple stuff, I mean, I think these are great. I'm not trying to say that I don't like these. I think these are great. 463 00:54:00.590 --> 00:54:07.790 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, I gotta. I gotta work on it a little bit more. Make it more more unique. It's just as soon as 464 00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:21.290 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: yeah. Oh, you know, I mean more unique. I kind of saying the opposite, though Paul is saying that you need to find something that you can replicate over and over and over, because they've already done it right, Paul, 465 00:54:21.300 --> 00:54:37.880 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: for materials right? Well, I think I think the committee should reach a consensus about whether to be more ambitious in terms of design and and and fabulousness, or more ambitious in terms of speed and ease of coming to fruition with something that's beneficial. 466 00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:41.939 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I, if I can speak to that, 467 00:54:42.080 --> 00:54:51.640 Joseph Murphy: it's not a one-shot deal. So if we do something that's speedy. Then we've got something done, and then we can 468 00:54:51.680 --> 00:54:53.200 Joseph Murphy: build on that. 469 00:54:53.210 --> 00:55:05.349 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah, all right, Barnush is both, and I think that's right. I mean, maybe we get a little bit of something good to happen in six months, and then there's a process behind the scenes where we're working over the next two, three years to to put the next layer of fabulous. 470 00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:06.569 Isabelle Duvivier: He 471 00:55:06.580 --> 00:55:07.770 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: sounds good. 472 00:55:09.070 --> 00:55:12.240 Paul Davis: I Yeah, it's It's It's like two else. 473 00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:13.940 Joseph Murphy: Who else? Uh, 474 00:55:14.030 --> 00:55:24.769 Joseph Murphy: shall we say philosophy of planting a seed, and then hoping that it it blossoms in the future and becomes a model for other areas. 475 00:55:26.920 --> 00:55:33.790 Paul Davis: Joel, do you? What would you say about this. Well, you're I think you're muted right now, is it? Can we unmute you? Maybe. 476 00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:35.590 Joelle: But now I am not muted. 477 00:56:03.300 --> 00:56:05.220 Paul Davis: If you just call that, 478 00:56:05.900 --> 00:56:09.589 Paul Davis: It's funny. There's three trees there, but they're the kind of tree that 479 00:56:09.600 --> 00:56:13.289 Paul Davis: at all, because they have eight inch stems that are one hundred feet tall, that you know. 480 00:56:13.300 --> 00:56:14.839 All right. 481 00:56:16.340 --> 00:56:25.109 Paul Davis: Well, okay, I mean so with so much, Joe, Do you want to? Would you like to make a statement that some summarizes how we all feel like this at the moment. 482 00:56:26.570 --> 00:56:28.410 Joseph Murphy: Good. 483 00:56:30.040 --> 00:56:34.639 Joseph Murphy: I don't know. I think I think, what i'm listening to and hearing is you 484 00:56:34.660 --> 00:56:44.890 Joseph Murphy: is a healthy discussion and progress on this whole thing. And one thing we might consider again is another mid-march or middle 485 00:56:44.900 --> 00:57:01.890 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: it's Ah, another meeting in a couple of weeks, I mean if we have that, I will solemnly commit to to have it some conversation with Park and Irex, and hear from them what's easy to put in parks right? Because it would really help us to know that if someone can say we can give you benches all day long, or you know we can. 486 00:57:01.900 --> 00:57:05.650 Paul Davis: I mean. We just wanted them to say what's easy, 487 00:57:05.850 --> 00:57:07.499 Paul Davis: if if anything. Right. 488 00:57:08.770 --> 00:57:13.089 Joseph Murphy: Well, I like the idea. I personally like the idea of having off the 489 00:57:13.300 --> 00:57:16.540 Joseph Murphy: these mid-month meetings that are 490 00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:18.169 Joseph Murphy: official, 491 00:57:18.200 --> 00:57:23.279 Paul Davis: so that we can continue this kind of discussion which I find is very helpful. 492 00:57:23.550 --> 00:57:28.379 Joseph Murphy: So I'd like to suggest that we do that in a couple of weeks, and that would be the 493 00:57:28.500 --> 00:57:33.079 Joseph Murphy: I think I don't have my calendar up, but a couple of weeks would be what 494 00:57:34.720 --> 00:57:45.640 Paul Davis: I'll be early September. Let me. I have a kind of calendar right here. Let's have a quick look. So a couple of weeks. Here we are at August twenty, fifth. It would be September first, Thursday or the eighth. 495 00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:57.650 Paul Davis: Yes, yes, it was the first, so it would be the eight right right right. I know I committed to something on the A. But I think it's a business day kind of thing. 496 00:57:58.340 --> 00:58:00.889 Joseph Murphy: So is that okay? I mean, this 497 00:58:01.050 --> 00:58:03.599 Joseph Murphy: is the eighth of an okay time. 498 00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:10.679 Paul Davis: Yeah, I myself would need to further check a calendar. But I think it's safe to say that it's good. 499 00:58:13.820 --> 00:58:21.489 Paul Davis: Why, don't, we? Why Don't. We have a tentative plan to do that, assuming that everyone is roughly able to imagine it, and we can all confirm the next couple days. 500 00:58:22.160 --> 00:58:33.089 Joseph Murphy: Well, Let's not. Let's assume that we're gonna be okay on the eighth and then the secretarial duties. I go nuts. If we switch things around. 501 00:58:33.100 --> 00:58:38.490 Paul Davis: Okay, let's assume the eight. Okay, let's assume the eighth. And if people can't make it, that's okay, 502 00:58:38.500 --> 00:58:39.920 Paul Davis: yeah, Great. 503 00:58:40.670 --> 00:58:43.289 Paul Davis: Does that work? Okay for everyone as a basic plan. 504 00:58:43.300 --> 00:58:44.089 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yes, 505 00:58:44.100 --> 00:58:46.540 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: we have a chat on the eighth. Yes. 506 00:58:47.710 --> 00:58:48.689 Joseph Murphy: Okay, 507 00:58:48.700 --> 00:58:49.850 Yes. 508 00:58:49.980 --> 00:59:04.310 Paul Davis: Okay. Well, that's great. So maybe we are. Oh, actually, we We look at this little one minute while we're all here. Okay, because i'm just very gradually iterating this. But I think it's taken a little step. 509 00:59:04.380 --> 00:59:05.810 Paul Davis: Um, 510 00:59:05.970 --> 00:59:17.090 Paul Davis: I have at my office. There's a few realms of kind of extracurricular activities that that buy for time that is not taken up with work. So let's see here. Okay. So 511 00:59:17.540 --> 00:59:18.819 Paul Davis: here, 512 00:59:18.830 --> 00:59:22.490 Paul Davis: yes, all right, guys, Are you all seeing this now for the moment? 513 00:59:22.500 --> 00:59:33.970 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Um. Okay. So this is simply a, you know. Next step on the park we shaded the area That's not Venice, so we can specifically see what we believe Venice is here. The lighter area of the drawing, 514 00:59:33.980 --> 00:59:52.690 Paul Davis: and the only other thing we did now is make sure to show. Ah, Venice of America, Centennial Park, and it's Lush green Ah, quality here, full-length skinny triangle. And then we added in the Westminster Dog Park, and made sure that the Triangle Park was here as well. And I, 515 00:59:52.700 --> 01:00:03.510 Paul Davis: I got an email from Isabel, I think, helpfully pointing out that we we still could investigate that idea of having bigger or smaller circles to kind of reflect the size of the park. Is that what you were thinking about. 516 01:00:03.520 --> 01:00:04.490 Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah. 517 01:00:04.500 --> 01:00:07.359 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah. 518 01:00:07.370 --> 01:00:22.589 Paul Davis: Well, I think, Isabel, we've talked about this, and I think it's a great idea. I'm: i'm fully up for it. It really just involves using those orange circles as larger or smaller graphics to kind of help us get a visual easy to look scale indicator, for whether parks are big or small. 519 01:00:22.600 --> 01:00:27.850 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Oh, go sorry. There's no no, that is what I meant, But that's a really good idea, too. 520 01:00:27.860 --> 01:00:35.599 Isabelle Duvivier: No, I think what I was thinking of. You know there's a park standard. I just stepped away to see if I could find it. There's a part standard. 521 01:00:35.610 --> 01:00:54.659 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Um! Let me find it really quickly. It has to do. How many, how many acres of parks you need per thousand people? Oh, I see. And I thought that would be a really cool graphic to show it'd be a little more complicated, but not it possible, because you can certainly get density by 522 01:00:54.970 --> 01:01:03.179 Isabelle Duvivier: by consensus district. But I think this i'm just looking for the actual number. I think it's like 523 01:01:05.710 --> 01:01:07.089 I can't remember 524 01:01:07.100 --> 01:01:16.350 Paul Davis: Isabel Does this? Does the city's Park site give us a Eric acreage or square footage of parks, because I haven't seen that yet, but that would be great to have 525 01:01:16.660 --> 01:01:21.189 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: um. Have you haven't looked in zemos? So, my! 526 01:01:21.200 --> 01:01:25.590 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: I think you would just have to. Actually, I don't know. Do it? 527 01:01:25.600 --> 01:01:26.689 Isabelle Duvivier: Yeah, 528 01:01:26.700 --> 01:01:36.290 Paul Davis: yeah, yeah, that's that's not that hard. I mean, there's what we're talking like. One, two, three, four, five, six, I mean. It's really eight parks, right? It's not that much, 529 01:01:36.300 --> 01:01:45.920 Isabelle Duvivier: is it? Really? I mean what you're drawing is starting to show is starting to show is how Oakwood is part four. 530 01:01:46.100 --> 01:02:02.700 Isabelle Duvivier: Um. But when you actually start looking at the number of people, Oakwood is way denser than the other areas, Then you really start to see? Wow, Oakwood is super part poor, 531 01:02:02.710 --> 01:02:05.789 Paul Davis: that thing. So if the circle 532 01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:06.660 Paul Davis: yeah, 533 01:02:06.670 --> 01:02:11.529 Isabelle Duvivier: somehow was associated with the number of people 534 01:02:11.770 --> 01:02:13.169 Isabelle Duvivier: um 535 01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:30.690 Paul Davis: or the radius. I mean you could. We could just put shading in if we could figure out where to get the info We could shade the map with with population density that'd be kind of interesting, right. It would show we could. We could put half tone in. I don't know if that's I mean. But graphically, we could do that. We'd have to get the info. But 536 01:02:31.600 --> 01:02:36.500 Paul Davis: you're saying graphics generally that show the population pressure on a given park 537 01:02:38.130 --> 01:02:52.990 Paul Davis: right? I mean it's fine. You let me just take the computer over to my other dust and read to you. Let me reach you this email, or I could send it to you. So basically the nation's recommendation of parks. Space is one thousand people per ten acres, 538 01:02:53.000 --> 01:03:07.150 Paul Davis: So Los Angeles is four four acres per thousand people. So Los Angeles is already less than half, and I would bet you that oak wood is less than that. 539 01:03:07.860 --> 01:03:20.589 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: We could get the floor area of Venice pretty very easily right, and then we can start adding up these parts, and it'll be fascinating to see what we come up with. If we're substantially lower than La. Then it might be because the city believes we have this stunning amenity in the form of the beach. But 540 01:03:20.600 --> 01:03:21.490 Isabelle Duvivier: you know, Yeah, 541 01:03:21.500 --> 01:03:22.709 Paul Davis: you think that's different. 542 01:03:23.590 --> 01:03:24.589 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yeah 543 01:03:24.600 --> 01:03:25.830 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: pictures 544 01:03:26.450 --> 01:03:35.490 Paul Davis: we're showing by accident here. Venice Beach children's playground much bigger than it actually is that needs to contract a lot That's a tiny little playground. That's not that whole big area. 545 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:52.560 Paul Davis: Well, those are very good points. I mean. I think this map can continue to do more, and we don't really yet have anyone to show it to, but it'll be very useful to have it to say more, and soon we will be showing the people right. 546 01:03:52.580 --> 01:03:54.169 Very good. And 547 01:03:54.450 --> 01:03:56.149 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Yep, 548 01:03:56.480 --> 01:04:02.389 Isabelle Duvivier: there's this. Let me share this one image also for you. You can take a screenshot of it. 549 01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:11.489 Paul Davis: This is another movement that's happening across the world. It's the three by three, by thirty, by three hundred rule. 550 01:04:11.500 --> 01:04:24.290 Paul Davis: And this says that you should have from every residence you should have. You should not be any further than three hundred meters from the nearest car. Now I think that was a circle I was talking about. You should. 551 01:04:24.300 --> 01:04:32.289 Paul Davis: Oh, I see you should be able to see three trees from your window, you should see Yeah, thirty percent tree 552 01:04:32.300 --> 01:04:43.089 Paul Davis: canopy coverage and be thirty meters from a park. And Here, let me show you this other mat that would blow you away. This is our canopy coverage. 553 01:04:43.100 --> 01:04:46.289 Paul Davis: I'm going to give you the screen. Here we go. Yeah, I know it. 554 01:04:46.300 --> 01:04:47.189 Paul Davis: Oh, my gosh! 555 01:04:47.200 --> 01:05:00.390 Isabelle Duvivier: Compared to other cities, we're at fourteen percent overall. But that is is only ten percent. So we have ten percent canopy coverage, and that last image I showed you. 556 01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:03.169 Paul Davis: Can I get that back for a screen share? 557 01:05:03.530 --> 01:05:04.390 Isabelle Duvivier: All right, 558 01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:08.190 Paul Davis: and I get the last one back the whole city from the three cities from the screen share. 559 01:05:08.200 --> 01:05:10.689 Paul Davis: Oh, yeah, This This screenshot. 560 01:05:10.700 --> 01:05:12.589 Joseph Murphy: Okay? Uh: 561 01:05:12.600 --> 01:05:17.390 Paul Davis: yeah, yeah, Erica Moore joined us, so she was trying to talk to. 562 01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:19.879 Paul Davis: Can you put her up to 563 01:05:20.770 --> 01:05:22.129 Joseph Murphy: Erica? 564 01:05:24.020 --> 01:05:25.209 Hey! There, 565 01:05:25.530 --> 01:05:32.189 Joseph Murphy: I actually i'm! Actually It's just offered. I like to talk, but i'm not prepared to talk at this moment. I'm: I'm listening right now. 566 01:05:32.200 --> 01:05:34.910 Erica Moore: I was linked to the party. Unfortunately. 567 01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:39.989 Joseph Murphy: Yeah, we're right now, close down, because we got to close down before six, thirty. 568 01:05:40.050 --> 01:05:45.029 Isabelle Duvivier: Well, all I can say is that I i'm witnessing it. 569 01:05:46.190 --> 01:05:52.139 Erica Moore: I'm i'm witnessing the trees disappearing everywhere in Venice. I mean, 570 01:05:52.210 --> 01:06:08.490 Isabelle Duvivier: I've you know, been business owner here for thirty eight years in the same location, and i'm resident as well. Ah, renting it both, and it's it's just It's very disheartening, You know Isabel really knows her stuff, and I know whatever she has presented is something I would support. A whole lot of 571 01:06:08.500 --> 01:06:30.679 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: me, too, is like I just Let me give you an example tonight. I think the loop pack is tonight. Loopak is that I for new Sure on the talk. But this week, or whenever they're going to be voting on a single-family home, find all five but that particular parcel land has three trees on it, and it's me next to it, and all of those, all 572 01:06:30.690 --> 01:06:34.840 of those four trees are going to get destroyed, and Loo-pack won't even 573 01:06:34.850 --> 01:06:53.200 Paul Davis: let us have that discussion. So we're hoping that we can somehow educate Loo-pack that it's great to have density. But you know it's a mega a house a single family home that goes from hotline to online. That's removing free trees, anyway, 574 01:06:53.210 --> 01:06:56.490 Isabelle Duvivier: that that that's exactly what happened where I live. 575 01:06:56.500 --> 01:07:07.630 Erica Moore: And there were. The whole yard was full of beautiful fruit trees. When I moved in at the house behind me, and within one year all of them were ripped out, and there were no trees, 576 01:07:07.640 --> 01:07:11.130 Isabelle Duvivier: because, you know, it's really shocking, 577 01:07:11.140 --> 01:07:22.229 Isabelle Duvivier: and and I agree with you. It is I do attend a lot of but meetings, and and really the green, the greening is not even something that they consider they're They're more concerned about 578 01:07:22.240 --> 01:07:32.990 Isabelle Duvivier: about just allowing things because they can do it. It's not. Yeah, it's it's It's what it's just because they can't it doesn't mean they should, is my motto: 579 01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:51.580 Paul Davis: Yeah, you have to consider everything, you know. It takes away the it makes everything shady. There's no sun. It's there's a lot of things, and then have an effective growth of other vegetation as well. It's for that basic role of government and pricing externalities. I mean, because because, you know, developers and corporations and financial interests won't 580 01:07:51.590 --> 01:07:55.189 Paul Davis: take into account the benefit of trees to the entire community, the 581 01:07:55.200 --> 01:08:06.989 Paul Davis: and unless someone like the government forces regulations on us all that Say, you can't cut these trees down. I can't do what they've done with oaks. I mean. They do that with oaks. But there's all these other trees that are equally valuable in terms of just life. Right? 582 01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:22.890 Isabelle Duvivier: Well, they don't actually do that with oats. Unfortunately, a protected tree is not in La at all at all Protect it. They allow every single protected tree to be removed. There is no enforcement. There is no meat behind. That. 583 01:08:22.899 --> 01:08:25.389 Paul Davis: Yeah, uh, before 584 01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:34.990 Joseph Murphy: before I forget, i'd like to do a little secretary of work, Eric. Are you willing to attend our meetings more often like a mid-month meeting. 585 01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:36.069 Erica Moore: Yes, 586 01:08:36.080 --> 01:08:40.259 Joseph Murphy: okay. Could you please send me your contact information? 587 01:08:40.270 --> 01:08:43.789 Joseph Murphy: How do I? How do I do that? Joseph 588 01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:46.609 Joseph Murphy: It's uh in the chat or something. 589 01:08:47.100 --> 01:08:49.640 Joseph Murphy: It's it's in the agenda. 590 01:08:49.689 --> 01:08:50.710 You 591 01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:54.589 Paul Davis: your email. I get it to you. Now, it works. Yeah, 592 01:08:54.600 --> 01:08:57.090 Joseph Murphy: uh email. Okay, 593 01:08:57.100 --> 01:08:58.189 Joseph Murphy: email is 594 01:08:58.200 --> 01:09:05.429 Joseph Murphy: all right, because I'm in a vehicle that's part of why I wasn't there. I wasn't. I wasn't somewhere where I could be in this meeting. So hold on, 595 01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:11.380 Joseph Murphy: let me join in here. Okay, go ahead. It's J. Oe, Dm. You are 596 01:09:12.810 --> 01:09:15.070 Joseph Murphy: at Gmail, dot Com. 597 01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:32.490 Joseph Murphy: G. It's J. J. Or G. J. Like Jose o E. D. M. U. R. J. O. E. For Joe. Yes, D. As in Dennis. Yeah, Murphy Murray as in Murphy. 598 01:09:32.500 --> 01:09:33.670 Erica Moore: That's what I got 599 01:09:33.710 --> 01:09:42.310 Joseph Murphy: at Gmail Com, and the telephone number is three, one zero, Okay, three, zero, five, Uh-huh. One, four, four, four, 600 01:09:44.170 --> 01:09:48.900 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: and you can text it or email it either way, I'll: get it. 601 01:09:48.910 --> 01:09:51.290 Erica Moore: Okay, fantastic. I will text it to you shortly, 602 01:09:51.300 --> 01:09:53.750 Paul Davis: Erica. Thank you so much for joining us tonight. 603 01:09:54.100 --> 01:09:59.160 Erica Moore: Yeah, I'm: so glad that I got in on the, and I apologize for that coming early. 604 01:09:59.650 --> 01:10:04.589 Erica Moore: I didn't realize this was happening right now, and I said, Oh, my God! So I jumped in, 605 01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:07.369 Paul Davis: so we we'd be super happy to see you in the future. 606 01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:10.790 Erica Moore: Thank you likewise. 607 01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:22.780 Paul Davis: Well, guys, maybe we're wrapping up now in favor of a notion that in a couple of weeks we'll be back and take take some more opportunity to discuss, and I will. I pledge to have had some discussion with Park and Rex 608 01:10:23.430 --> 01:10:24.990 Isabelle Duvivier: Bye. Thank you 609 01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:28.129 Joseph Murphy: three hundred foot radius in there, too. 610 01:10:28.380 --> 01:10:35.490 Paul Davis: Three hundred meter, Is it? Is that right? Yeah, All right. Well, that stuff is fantastic. A seat. Thank you so much. You're welcome. 611 01:10:35.500 --> 01:10:40.489 Mehrnoosh Mojallali: Hi, everyone. Thank you. Bye, Erica. Goodbye 612 01:10:40.500 --> 01:10:41.269 Erica Moore: about it.