WEBVTT 1 00:00:57.360 --> 00:00:58.200 jim murez: hang on one SEC. 2 00:02:20.820 --> 00:02:23.430 jim murez: So we're just waiting for board members to show up. 3 00:02:25.440 --> 00:02:26.940 jim murez: eliana i'm promoting you. 4 00:02:32.910 --> 00:02:33.660 Alley Bean: Thank you. 5 00:02:34.410 --> 00:02:35.670 jim murez: you're welcome, good evening. 6 00:02:37.170 --> 00:02:37.740 Good evening. 7 00:04:10.380 --> 00:04:18.660 jim murez: caller who's number ends in 968 is a board member, please raise your hand. 8 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:55.500 jim murez: Solid it I couldn't see you you're off the top of my list. 9 00:04:56.520 --> 00:04:57.750 jim murez: and promoting you now. 10 00:05:10.110 --> 00:05:10.620 jim murez: Good evening. 11 00:05:22.290 --> 00:05:24.150 jim murez: Clark and promoting you now. 12 00:05:37.260 --> 00:05:39.690 jim murez: vicki i'm promoting you now. 13 00:05:42.150 --> 00:05:43.800 jim murez: Fernando i'm promoting you. 14 00:06:13.830 --> 00:06:15.570 jim murez: Jay i'm promoting you. 15 00:06:30.270 --> 00:06:31.170 Jay Handal: Good evening all. 16 00:06:31.860 --> 00:06:32.430 Good evening. 17 00:06:45.060 --> 00:06:48.360 jim murez: looks let's see Mike mccaul i'll promote you. 18 00:06:52.260 --> 00:06:55.890 jim murez: Robert just texted me he's running 10 minutes late. 19 00:06:57.810 --> 00:07:04.920 jim murez: we're still waiting for quorum there's somebody that has a telephone number that's ending at 775 if you're a committee Member board member, please raise your hand. 20 00:07:34.320 --> 00:07:40.050 jim murez: daffodils computer is rebooting and she's in the process of logging in the right there. 21 00:07:44.730 --> 00:07:47.490 jim murez: Clark Brown is back in the attendee list. 22 00:07:49.200 --> 00:07:53.820 jim murez: You can try, one more time, or if you're being promoted lester's to Clark browns. 23 00:08:04.020 --> 00:08:06.090 jim murez: Listen diner I will promote you. 24 00:08:25.980 --> 00:08:27.210 jim murez: jump people around. 25 00:08:31.200 --> 00:08:32.520 jim murez: Mike though me. 26 00:08:33.930 --> 00:08:35.130 Clark Brown: i'm having problems. 27 00:08:36.210 --> 00:08:38.610 jim murez: Here, and so as Mike Mike i'm promoting you. 28 00:08:40.050 --> 00:08:41.550 jim murez: def adele and promoting you. 29 00:08:44.070 --> 00:08:47.040 jim murez: Let me when you guys raise your hands that list changes. 30 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:50.460 jim murez: we're still waiting for a few more people. 31 00:08:53.010 --> 00:08:57.420 Daffodil Tyminski: We have a quorum, yet no okay IT staff i'm so sorry i'm running a little couple minutes late. 32 00:08:58.890 --> 00:09:02.160 jim murez: Co host and then you can start watching the weekly. 33 00:09:05.190 --> 00:09:05.490 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah. 34 00:09:10.140 --> 00:09:11.640 jim murez: it's hard for us to stand for. 35 00:09:11.640 --> 00:09:15.510 Clark Brown: Something I have to reboot my computer I can't get my video. 36 00:09:16.260 --> 00:09:17.310 jim murez: Oh well, okay. 37 00:09:17.460 --> 00:09:20.400 jim murez: So i'll be right back watch for you to come back when the time comes. 38 00:09:20.460 --> 00:09:20.760 Clark Brown: Thank you. 39 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:22.170 Daffodil Tyminski: I look out for if I. 40 00:09:22.620 --> 00:09:24.330 Vicki Halliday: have to do, did you get my list. 41 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:26.160 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, I did. 42 00:09:26.340 --> 00:09:26.940 Vicki Halliday: Okay, good. 43 00:09:28.170 --> 00:09:28.740 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes. 44 00:09:29.130 --> 00:09:29.850 jim murez: You coach. 45 00:09:32.100 --> 00:09:33.690 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay awesome. 46 00:09:34.740 --> 00:09:39.390 Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry i'm gonna make you a panelists Jim I am bringing you in. 47 00:09:41.430 --> 00:09:44.190 jim murez: I did not make Freddie appeals but that's Okay, you can. 48 00:09:46.830 --> 00:09:51.840 Daffodil Tyminski: we've got some folks here who are committees or applicants that will take them on a one by one basis. 49 00:09:52.620 --> 00:09:52.860 yeah. 50 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:58.260 jim murez: We have we have quite a bit of agenda to go through before we get to the. 51 00:09:58.860 --> 00:10:00.210 jim murez: Yes, that part. 52 00:10:03.390 --> 00:10:04.440 Daffodil Tyminski: And we have. 53 00:10:05.130 --> 00:10:07.710 jim murez: Gene simmons also here, we want to get to him early on. 54 00:10:07.770 --> 00:10:08.040 Vicki Halliday: But. 55 00:10:08.460 --> 00:10:11.760 Vicki Halliday: I already did and monique I see her phone numbers there. 56 00:10:13.170 --> 00:10:16.410 Is it the 96877568. 57 00:10:17.580 --> 00:10:17.940 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. 58 00:10:18.990 --> 00:10:19.320 jim murez: vicki. 59 00:10:19.890 --> 00:10:23.670 jim murez: into your life, a bit louder maybe I need to turn mine up sorry number. 60 00:10:28.650 --> 00:10:29.550 Daffodil Tyminski: 123. 61 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:31.740 jim murez: she's not she's not. 62 00:10:35.520 --> 00:10:43.560 Daffodil Tyminski: 12 um so we do have 12 jam, we can get going, and I can just keep an eye out and let people in as we go. 63 00:10:43.860 --> 00:10:47.640 jim murez: Okay i'm going to close my list, and all that you watch from now on. 64 00:10:48.870 --> 00:10:49.230 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. 65 00:10:51.780 --> 00:10:53.190 jim murez: Let me share my screen. 66 00:11:03.810 --> 00:11:04.740 jim murez: Second, everybody. 67 00:11:33.660 --> 00:11:34.560 Jim Robb: No bro. 68 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:40.290 Jim Robb: not supposed to go through this that that deliveries a different yard, that is so. 69 00:11:42.450 --> 00:11:49.920 Jim Robb: Well, whoever the neighbor is is that not his call to tell you to go through you can go out that way but yeah he. 70 00:11:50.220 --> 00:11:50.790 gave me that. 71 00:11:53.490 --> 00:11:53.850 Daffodil Tyminski: Jimmy. 72 00:11:55.320 --> 00:11:56.220 jim murez: Very muted. 73 00:11:59.160 --> 00:11:59.670 jim murez: Okay. 74 00:12:01.050 --> 00:12:03.360 jim murez: You see, the agenda. 75 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:06.480 jim murez: Yes, you can start. 76 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:11.190 jim murez: calling me me the order. 77 00:12:12.090 --> 00:12:13.620 jim murez: Time is so five. 78 00:12:18.420 --> 00:12:20.610 jim murez: I am James neuroscience here daffodil. 79 00:12:21.780 --> 00:12:22.320 Jim Robb: here. 80 00:12:23.910 --> 00:12:24.570 jim murez: alyssa. 81 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:31.920 jim murez: alyssa are you here. 82 00:12:35.850 --> 00:12:36.540 Daffodil Tyminski: To be here. 83 00:12:37.350 --> 00:12:39.330 Jay Handal: Today i'm here with. 84 00:12:39.990 --> 00:12:40.440 vicki. 85 00:12:42.090 --> 00:12:42.630 jim murez: Bruno. 86 00:12:44.220 --> 00:12:44.760 Bruno Hernandez: here. 87 00:12:45.450 --> 00:12:45.750 She. 88 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:06.750 Alley Bean: here. 89 00:13:15.630 --> 00:13:16.770 jim murez: Great solid out. 90 00:13:17.070 --> 00:13:17.490 here. 91 00:13:19.350 --> 00:13:20.340 jim murez: cj. 92 00:13:20.520 --> 00:13:21.030 here. 93 00:13:22.620 --> 00:13:23.400 jim murez: All over. 94 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:26.160 jim murez: Elizabeth. 95 00:13:28.020 --> 00:13:28.710 jim murez: Robert. 96 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:31.260 jim murez: Clark. 97 00:13:32.640 --> 00:13:35.310 Daffodil Tyminski: Clark is here hold on one second he just popped on. 98 00:13:35.940 --> 00:13:36.630 well. 99 00:13:38.010 --> 00:13:38.460 Michael Jensen: here. 100 00:13:44.490 --> 00:13:45.840 jim murez: Clark, are you here. 101 00:13:48.990 --> 00:13:50.430 jim murez: yep yourself. 102 00:13:53.760 --> 00:13:54.360 Clark Brown: i'm here. 103 00:13:55.050 --> 00:13:55.440 Right. 104 00:13:57.240 --> 00:14:00.690 jim murez: Okay, so we have 13 here we can certainly start the meeting. 105 00:14:01.800 --> 00:14:03.390 jim murez: The timestamp that one. 106 00:14:05.340 --> 00:14:16.380 jim murez: And let's move on, let me start off by saying we have two Members tonight that may not vote on funding items it per the. 107 00:14:17.850 --> 00:14:19.770 jim murez: city's website. 108 00:14:20.850 --> 00:14:24.210 jim murez: Those two Members are so dad you have. 109 00:14:27.090 --> 00:14:27.600 jim murez: expired. 110 00:14:29.280 --> 00:14:30.360 jim murez: and Melissa. 111 00:14:32.250 --> 00:14:41.310 jim murez: Ethics was 522 22 you both have to update those two trainings before you can vote on funding matters, but you can vote on all. 112 00:14:41.340 --> 00:14:44.850 jim murez: Other matters long as you're not recusing from anything else. 113 00:14:46.380 --> 00:14:46.920 jim murez: um. 114 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:58.650 jim murez: As far as ex parte communications there's an item on here dealing with bridge housing, which I will be recusing myself from and passing the gavel to Jay. 115 00:14:58.770 --> 00:14:59.130 Michael Jensen: on that. 116 00:14:59.850 --> 00:15:05.760 jim murez: One one that item comes up and, as far as other conversations. 117 00:15:08.550 --> 00:15:09.210 jim murez: I can't think. 118 00:15:09.390 --> 00:15:12.090 Michael Jensen: it's just a bad plug Alan I mean. 119 00:15:13.350 --> 00:15:15.360 jim murez: There we can hear you I don't know what you were saying. 120 00:15:17.250 --> 00:15:24.390 jim murez: Is anybody else want to declare any ex parte communication i've had conversations, by the way, about things like like. 121 00:15:24.990 --> 00:15:34.920 jim murez: The elections and all sorts of other board matters I won't get into all the details about all of the different things we'll get into that as we get through the agenda definitely you have your hand up go ahead, please. 122 00:15:35.310 --> 00:15:50.400 Daffodil Tyminski: I do I need to recuse myself from the bridge housing issue, I live within 500 or thousand feet, depending on how you look at it i've had some conversations with various folks, including the chairs of the committee's to be re up tonight. 123 00:15:51.510 --> 00:15:54.090 Daffodil Tyminski: But mostly everything i've had is on. 124 00:15:55.800 --> 00:15:57.780 Daffodil Tyminski: It more ministerial basis. 125 00:15:59.010 --> 00:16:04.680 jim murez: yeah I looked at, excuse me, this is Jim again I left out that that I to live within 1000 feet. 126 00:16:05.190 --> 00:16:09.240 jim murez: Of the bridge project and that's why I am recusing myself from that. 127 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:15.060 Daffodil Tyminski: And i'd like to note for the Minutes that i'm Jason sugars just joined the meeting, so you may want to call a role for him. 128 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:16.680 jim murez: You are Jason are you here. 129 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:22.710 jim murez: Jason. 130 00:16:24.930 --> 00:16:26.790 Daffodil Tyminski: he's here as a panelist but. 131 00:16:27.570 --> 00:16:29.130 jim murez: Okay well welcome back to it. 132 00:16:29.610 --> 00:16:31.560 jim murez: Okay, but the other hand up. 133 00:16:37.980 --> 00:16:40.290 jim murez: you're muted or you're not speaking vicki go ahead. 134 00:16:40.410 --> 00:16:51.510 Vicki Halliday: I have to recuse items 12, which is a funding issue and item 19 which is breach housing since i'm within the climb up Thank you. 135 00:16:51.690 --> 00:16:52.380 jim murez: Thank you vicki. 136 00:16:52.710 --> 00:16:55.200 jim murez: i'm solid you have your hand up. 137 00:16:56.130 --> 00:17:05.250 Soledad Ursua: Yes, I need to keys for brunch housing, I live right outside of 500 feet, but now the city attorney's office is saying it's 1000 feet so. 138 00:17:06.390 --> 00:17:09.810 Soledad Ursua: I think it's ridiculous, but I am within 1000 feet. 139 00:17:11.370 --> 00:17:14.730 jim murez: Thank you i'm cj you have your hand up. 140 00:17:14.760 --> 00:17:24.480 CJ Cole: I have to Oh, I thought there was something on this agenda that I had to recuse having to do with the Venice median project. 141 00:17:26.520 --> 00:17:31.320 jim murez: I don't know that there's anything having to do with the Venice medium project today. 142 00:17:31.710 --> 00:17:32.130 Alley Bean: Here is. 143 00:17:33.450 --> 00:17:35.430 jim murez: was that there was somebody said there was yes. 144 00:17:35.520 --> 00:17:36.360 Alley Bean: Now there is not. 145 00:17:36.450 --> 00:17:44.790 jim murez: yeah I didn't think so that was alley I guess Okay, thank you Sally and thank you cj you guys can both lower your hands, so that you can lower your hand to kill, you have your hand up. 146 00:17:49.020 --> 00:17:57.030 Michael Jensen: yep i'm I have to recuse from 19 since I live within 500 feet, although i'm really curious where the city's new thousand foot standard is. 147 00:17:58.110 --> 00:18:02.520 Michael Jensen: written in the ethics code so i'd love to hear. 148 00:18:03.570 --> 00:18:05.160 Michael Jensen: Where they pulled that one out of. 149 00:18:06.840 --> 00:18:20.520 jim murez: So I was just for anybody that's curious about that I too had to because of within 1000 feet, it turns out that if you're a property owner it's within 1000 feet if you're a renter it's within 500 feet and I think that that State law now. 150 00:18:21.930 --> 00:18:24.480 Jay Handal: Jim i'm sorry, who was sent and just recused himself. 151 00:18:24.810 --> 00:18:25.980 jim murez: mikael Jensen. 152 00:18:26.280 --> 00:18:26.730 Jay Handal: Thank you. 153 00:18:28.890 --> 00:18:32.340 jim murez: um anybody else have anything they have their hand up about. 154 00:18:38.490 --> 00:18:43.200 jim murez: Okay, so seeing non ex parte communications will be closed. 155 00:18:44.220 --> 00:18:51.330 jim murez: And we will move right along announcements and presentations can we bring. 156 00:18:53.220 --> 00:18:57.870 jim murez: Our lapd or la fd representatives. 157 00:18:59.550 --> 00:19:01.830 jim murez: into the meeting now who would like to go first. 158 00:19:01.920 --> 00:19:03.300 Daffodil Tyminski: They should all be in the meeting. 159 00:19:04.260 --> 00:19:08.910 jim murez: Okay, I can't see them at this point let me stop sharing my screen. 160 00:19:10.770 --> 00:19:17.730 Daffodil Tyminski: So we have monique is here from lapd and we have two representatives from um. 161 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:19.680 jim murez: I see the cheapest here. 162 00:19:20.460 --> 00:19:22.230 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, and Robert tech ishida. 163 00:19:22.710 --> 00:19:30.450 jim murez: Okay, let me just it looks like Jason are you here, I just want to do a little tiny bit of quick bookkeeping Jason are you here. 164 00:19:30.780 --> 00:19:33.390 Jason Sugars: Yes, Sir, I am I was trying to connect to my bluetooth i'm with you. 165 00:19:33.750 --> 00:19:35.610 jim murez: Not a problem i'm going to go ahead and check you in. 166 00:19:36.120 --> 00:19:36.390 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 167 00:19:38.310 --> 00:19:42.780 jim murez: um so who would like to go first chief would you like to go first I think you're the highest ranking. 168 00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:50.790 Chief Zipperman: Oh, good evening I don't know about that, but i'll be more than happy to uh to take you up on Google first. 169 00:19:52.020 --> 00:19:58.620 Chief Zipperman: Everybody knows me diesel permit assistant chief operations was bureau against a pleasure to be invited to this. 170 00:19:59.670 --> 00:20:15.450 Chief Zipperman: As we have a new deputy Keith Keith Richard fields I think you guys may have met him last time we're kind of moving in a direction to allow our battalion chiefs to start attending these little little more frequent fashion so tonight. 171 00:20:16.530 --> 00:20:24.510 Chief Zipperman: i've got the duty on duty is dying she Robert talkers cheetah who's assigned to battalion for which covers the Venice area. 172 00:20:24.990 --> 00:20:35.430 Chief Zipperman: And we may or may not have another name rudy hill who's our see shift battalion commander from the Italian for. 173 00:20:36.330 --> 00:20:49.620 Chief Zipperman: And i'll let Robert takashi to introduce himself and kind of give an update of what's going on in the battalion and if there's anything from the Bureau office that you would like an update i'll be more than happy to give you that as well after you meet Robert. 174 00:20:50.280 --> 00:20:54.180 jim murez: Thank you, Robert before you begin daffodil can you watch for this other person. 175 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:58.140 Daffodil Tyminski: I guess and I don't see them at the moment but i'll keep my eye on. 176 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:07.620 jim murez: Chief Zimmerman if you if you see him come in, maybe in your in your attendee list just raise your hand and let us know and we'll promote it. 177 00:21:08.370 --> 00:21:09.240 Chief Zipperman: will do, thank you. 178 00:21:09.540 --> 00:21:10.740 jim murez: Robert go ahead, thank you. 179 00:21:11.220 --> 00:21:15.270 Robert Takeshita: and good afternoon everybody i'm brand new to the battalion. 180 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:20.400 Robert Takeshita: Approximately two months i've transferred into this battalion from the Hollywood area. 181 00:21:21.840 --> 00:21:30.540 Robert Takeshita: You know, recent recent events, you know at the airport, you know, one of the one of the things for new battalion chief coming into the airport areas that we have to get badge. 182 00:21:30.900 --> 00:21:37.860 Robert Takeshita: So that's one of the things that we've accomplished here in this office is myself and my emergency incident technician we know badge for the airport. 183 00:21:38.280 --> 00:21:51.720 Robert Takeshita: But we're not in for the airport, we also cover the on the beneficiary as well you know you guys are all aware of the unfortunate incident that happened, you know to you know, in the area, you know the passing the car into the building and then that person actually passed away. 184 00:21:52.950 --> 00:22:00.690 Robert Takeshita: I was on duty that day, but I wasn't the incident commander, but I didn't respond to the event and then tragically, you know that person lost their lives. 185 00:22:01.890 --> 00:22:06.390 Robert Takeshita: You know they mentioned, you know chiefs different men mentioned my counterpart chief rudy hill. 186 00:22:07.380 --> 00:22:14.220 Robert Takeshita: As you're aware he's I don't know if you're aware, but he's working on the Venice boardwalk area in terms of what they call the boiler product project. 187 00:22:14.910 --> 00:22:28.170 Robert Takeshita: With dwp so I don't see him on right now, but I know he's you know he's been invested in that project for the last few months and, hopefully, when he attends a meeting next time you could give an update in terms of the status for the project. 188 00:22:29.250 --> 00:22:32.310 Robert Takeshita: So, at that point that's all I have to have to have to say. 189 00:22:33.540 --> 00:22:34.110 jim murez: Thank you. 190 00:22:35.370 --> 00:22:35.850 jim murez: um. 191 00:22:38.130 --> 00:22:39.450 jim murez: Where do we go from here. 192 00:22:40.530 --> 00:22:44.040 jim murez: Did any of the other fire department folks show up. 193 00:22:45.300 --> 00:22:46.200 Daffodil Tyminski: So. 194 00:22:47.490 --> 00:22:49.380 Daffodil Tyminski: No, we have i'm. 195 00:22:50.670 --> 00:22:52.380 Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry everyone's jumping around on me. 196 00:22:52.830 --> 00:22:54.060 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah i'm. 197 00:22:54.270 --> 00:22:55.470 jim murez: raising their hands it's a. 198 00:22:56.130 --> 00:23:02.280 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah if anyone else is here from the fire department raise your hand but as far as I can see, I don't see anyone. 199 00:23:03.450 --> 00:23:07.710 Daffodil Tyminski: Jim Ross I see your hand is raised i'm going to lower it for the moment. 200 00:23:08.910 --> 00:23:09.570 Daffodil Tyminski: um. 201 00:23:09.840 --> 00:23:12.990 Chief Zipperman: No, you just have chief zipper minutes you've talked to sheet on, so the fire department. 202 00:23:12.990 --> 00:23:14.370 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay that's what I thought. 203 00:23:14.940 --> 00:23:18.840 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, and then we also have our monique is here from lapd. 204 00:23:19.410 --> 00:23:21.360 jim murez: Okay, what eek. 205 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:22.710 jim murez: The floor is all yours. 206 00:23:29.220 --> 00:23:29.850 jim murez: You see here. 207 00:23:32.700 --> 00:23:33.180 jim murez: capital. 208 00:23:35.280 --> 00:23:37.230 Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry, I muted myself, I felt like she's here. 209 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:40.620 Daffodil Tyminski: And she's allowed to talk she may just be. 210 00:23:41.790 --> 00:23:42.630 jim murez: She on the phone. 211 00:23:43.020 --> 00:23:45.150 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, she's in my phone. 212 00:23:45.570 --> 00:23:50.490 jim murez: Well, there now, it looks like number ending in 968 is muted. 213 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:55.770 Daffodil Tyminski: that's her on her end I can't I can't do anything about that. 214 00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:57.690 jim murez: What is it star nine or something. 215 00:23:59.580 --> 00:24:04.560 Daffodil Tyminski: I I know she knows how to she has her hand raised let's see here. 216 00:24:06.660 --> 00:24:07.410 jim murez: So there's. 217 00:24:08.460 --> 00:24:09.570 jim murez: Nine or. 218 00:24:11.250 --> 00:24:12.660 jim murez: Six I don't remember. 219 00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:15.210 jim murez: How you're unmuted can you speak. 220 00:24:28.530 --> 00:24:32.940 Daffodil Tyminski: I see monique you have your hand raised, but I there's nothing else I can do on my end, let you speak. 221 00:24:35.910 --> 00:24:36.720 robertthibodeau: My star nine. 222 00:24:42.540 --> 00:24:43.830 jim murez: I heard a beat that time. 223 00:24:48.120 --> 00:24:49.170 jim murez: But now you're muted. 224 00:24:50.010 --> 00:24:50.910 jim murez: Now you're unmuted. 225 00:24:52.410 --> 00:24:53.010 Daffodil Tyminski: monique. 226 00:24:57.270 --> 00:24:58.050 jim murez: Now you're muted. 227 00:25:01.350 --> 00:25:02.280 jim murez: Now you're unmuted. 228 00:25:08.010 --> 00:25:08.970 jim murez: well. 229 00:25:11.220 --> 00:25:25.650 jim murez: You maybe what we should do is ask you to hang up and call back in, and when we see your number of pure will pass the MIC back over to you in the meantime we'll continue our meeting because it looks like you're having technical difficulties Okay, so it looks like she hung up. 230 00:25:27.150 --> 00:25:27.330 jim murez: On. 231 00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:31.200 jim murez: Go back to our agenda. 232 00:25:32.340 --> 00:25:34.800 jim murez: Robert could you just verify that you're here. 233 00:25:37.290 --> 00:25:38.610 robertthibodeau: I am here, Jim Thank you. 234 00:25:38.940 --> 00:25:43.410 jim murez: Thank you, I checked you in a Jason Eric check you in, are there any other ads def adult. 235 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:45.840 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm. 236 00:25:46.860 --> 00:25:48.900 Daffodil Tyminski: Melissa came back out and came back in. 237 00:25:50.280 --> 00:25:52.800 Daffodil Tyminski: And I don't have any other unique. 238 00:25:54.390 --> 00:25:54.660 Daffodil Tyminski: People. 239 00:25:55.230 --> 00:25:58.140 jim murez: let's go on to government reports. 240 00:25:58.800 --> 00:26:02.310 jim murez: Do we have a field deputy here from Mike parsons office. 241 00:26:05.130 --> 00:26:06.480 jim murez: Janet Turner here. 242 00:26:06.540 --> 00:26:16.200 Daffodil Tyminski: I don't see anybody who I would expect to be here, if you are from any of the government agencies raise your hand but I don't recognize any names as being here today. 243 00:26:17.010 --> 00:26:20.040 jim murez: let's jump down to Freddie I saw he was here Freddie. 244 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:24.360 jim murez: Yes, hello, is that enough. 245 00:26:24.660 --> 00:26:28.020 jim murez: Now yeah is that enough time for any if we give you 15 seconds. 246 00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:29.790 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): yeah I could do it quickly. 247 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:38.850 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Okay i'm not joking, I sent out the email, please let me know if you didn't get my email and i'll forward it to you that gives my report, plus the monthly profile. 248 00:26:39.630 --> 00:26:40.980 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Is 15 seconds. 249 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:45.870 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): But I do want to leave least highlight that. 250 00:26:47.490 --> 00:26:51.900 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): In the email, I sent please say the date for Congress Saturday September 24. 251 00:26:52.170 --> 00:26:55.170 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Okay i'm also note that. 252 00:26:57.060 --> 00:27:03.990 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): The elections are coming up more details will be sent to the nc is once the Clerk provides. 253 00:27:04.170 --> 00:27:17.580 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): us more details but around November candidates should be able to sign up to run for office since regional 11 is up in March 26 for their election they're the first ones i've in the region. 254 00:27:18.660 --> 00:27:21.450 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): there's also going to be a civic you 1.0 that will be coming up in. 255 00:27:21.450 --> 00:27:39.330 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): October, I will be providing more details, so that board members can sign up, it cannot be more than the majority of the boards quorum to attend so there'll be a limited number of Members that could attend it from Venice since your quorum is 11 majority of your boards quorum is. 256 00:27:40.590 --> 00:27:41.670 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I think, five or six. 257 00:27:42.060 --> 00:27:46.080 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): But five so four members. 258 00:27:47.730 --> 00:27:59.070 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): would be able to attend civic you 1.0 I highly recommend Members who are new to attend this and to kind of give a subsidiary training afterwards. 259 00:27:59.910 --> 00:28:11.700 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): This is done by Pat Brown is too so it's not our department hosting it were helping pepper is to in partnership to bring this resource training to neighborhood Councils and, last but not least. 260 00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:22.290 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Please don't hesitate to brush up on any of the trainings on both your cornerstone account but also the workshops and trainings tab on our website, which gives. 261 00:28:22.650 --> 00:28:33.240 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): The basics of information for the core training, how to run a candidate forum brown act and how to file CIS is other than that Thank you so much for your time and consideration. 262 00:28:33.990 --> 00:28:37.890 jim murez: appreciated ready, thank you for keeping it brief today okay um. 263 00:28:39.030 --> 00:28:44.550 Daffodil Tyminski: Jim, can I just clarify one thing that means rv MC election is march 26 2023. 264 00:28:45.630 --> 00:28:46.050 Daffodil Tyminski: Right. 265 00:28:47.310 --> 00:28:49.770 Daffodil Tyminski: It should be yes correct okay thanks. 266 00:28:50.790 --> 00:28:51.240 Daffodil Tyminski: appreciate it. 267 00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:56.850 jim murez: Okay. 268 00:28:57.210 --> 00:29:01.800 jim murez: um so committee reports i'm. 269 00:29:03.270 --> 00:29:08.340 jim murez: Budget in finance I think we're going to do yours, when you give the treasurer's report there's no reason to do it twice. 270 00:29:08.430 --> 00:29:09.900 Daffodil Tyminski: ugly ladies. 271 00:29:11.100 --> 00:29:15.900 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Jim before you go through this you know tonight later on in the agenda we have. 272 00:29:16.650 --> 00:29:25.980 Daffodil Tyminski: The re establishment of some of our ad hoc committees and the fact that some of these were crossed out here on the agenda, I think, gave some folks on pause. 273 00:29:26.550 --> 00:29:41.850 Daffodil Tyminski: I realized now your intention, probably is to have the committee chairs from these committees that are strike through to give their reports, when we are voting to re up them, but could you just clarify that because I wasn't sure and we've had some. 274 00:29:41.850 --> 00:29:52.620 jim murez: Questions we discuss that at add calm and and the idea was is that to give them a minute or two at the beginning of the meeting, and then the same minute or two. 275 00:29:53.220 --> 00:30:00.540 jim murez: later on in the meeting when we asked them to tell us about their committee and why we should be voting for it, it just seemed like it was redundant. 276 00:30:00.930 --> 00:30:10.770 jim murez: And so the idea was is that just for this month, we were taking them off of the committee report since they're going to be reporting later in the week it's not it's not that they were no longer. 277 00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:26.910 Daffodil Tyminski: understood, so perhaps if we could when we get to it and we get into the substance of part of the agenda, we make a motion to amend the agenda to let those items go first so they don't have to hang on I think for significant part of the meeting. 278 00:30:27.360 --> 00:30:30.660 jim murez: i'm not sure I follow up on the agenda. 279 00:30:31.380 --> 00:30:34.680 jim murez: I believe there's public announcements of them. 280 00:30:36.990 --> 00:30:37.920 jim murez: Oh. 281 00:30:40.320 --> 00:30:42.420 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah there's quite a few things before. 282 00:30:44.310 --> 00:30:49.200 Daffodil Tyminski: We get to them so let's go through this but i'll make that motion when the time comes. 283 00:30:49.710 --> 00:30:54.240 jim murez: So yeah we could bring them up to the top, it was a part of new business here, there was down here. 284 00:30:55.980 --> 00:31:02.730 jim murez: 20 It started with item 26 so we could bring item item 26 and the other committees farther up if you want I don't mind, we can do that now. 285 00:31:03.780 --> 00:31:06.000 jim murez: We can do it right after we do these other reports. 286 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:12.540 Daffodil Tyminski: Of this okay so i'll make a motion to move that agenda item to rate after the rest of the committee chair reports. 287 00:31:14.250 --> 00:31:14.730 jim murez: well. 288 00:31:15.060 --> 00:31:15.900 Daffodil Tyminski: Do I have a second. 289 00:31:16.290 --> 00:31:18.810 jim murez: I don't think we need to i'm allowed to just rearrange it that's okay. 290 00:31:19.770 --> 00:31:20.070 Okay. 291 00:31:22.650 --> 00:31:24.210 Vicki Halliday: Definitely monique is back on. 292 00:31:25.110 --> 00:31:27.330 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, and she does have permission to speak. 293 00:31:27.870 --> 00:31:28.290 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. 294 00:31:28.830 --> 00:31:31.830 1424****968: So let me get you there, let us know. 295 00:31:32.910 --> 00:31:34.200 1424****968: Yes, i'm here can you hear me. 296 00:31:34.470 --> 00:31:36.060 jim murez: Yes, great so. 297 00:31:37.230 --> 00:31:37.710 1424****968: Okay. 298 00:31:40.140 --> 00:31:55.560 1424****968: So i'm being really officer morning controls for basic are 1411, thank you for your patience and having me tonight don't know what happened so just a basic overview i'm stats for basic car 1411 looks really good, we have a. 299 00:31:56.040 --> 00:32:09.300 1424****968: 12% decrease in property crime and a total of 16% decrease in total, part one crime, so, if you look at ag assault, you see 50 less than last year and burglaries 48 less than last year. 300 00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:19.350 1424****968: We did have our crime analysis detail just do an overview on the burglaries there wasn't an increase in basic car 14 813. 301 00:32:19.950 --> 00:32:36.990 1424****968: So there's a combination don and a 11 813 for the time period of four 122 to 813 22 with a total of 29 burglaries 11 residential rest were made 10 of the 11 where people experiencing homelessness we saw kind of just a. 302 00:32:38.190 --> 00:32:45.990 1424****968: These burglaries happening during the day at night, they were also targeting airbnb by using a pass code actually have the past code. 303 00:32:47.040 --> 00:32:57.390 1424****968: 10 of those burglaries were through the garage some people leaving the doors, you know unlocked force entry kind of varying and those degrees. 304 00:32:58.470 --> 00:33:08.850 1424****968: Also for my area I did see a little bit of an increase 2% and fast bicycles still being at the top of that, and a lot of unintended property on the beach. 305 00:33:10.650 --> 00:33:16.950 1424****968: One of the things that le can relate to us is that they're seeing a lot of illegal dumping happening along ocean front walk. 306 00:33:17.340 --> 00:33:35.730 1424****968: I was driving down speedway today and I saw a ton of like somebody empty their apartment I do have a phone number that I can send I can read it real quick right now it's 1-800-974-9794 and it's a 24 seven number for la sand for illegal dumping. 307 00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:48.240 1424****968: also want to emphasize another resource, please use la crimestoppers.org if you have any information on the crimes that are occurring or colleague activity things like that. 308 00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:57.330 1424****968: To be very specific pictures help, but it does get to our specialized units and they are held accountable for addressing these issues. 309 00:33:58.320 --> 00:34:08.160 1424****968: And then the last thing really quickly is that on August 26 we're going to transition lps or transition from working with la San. 310 00:34:09.060 --> 00:34:22.110 1424****968: To reckon parks and that's due to funding that Ellis and does not have to support our curfew operations on ocean for a walk in the evening and that's what I have for tonight, thank you. 311 00:34:22.590 --> 00:34:27.180 jim murez: Wendy can you just repeat that telephone number that you that you read so quickly. 312 00:34:28.200 --> 00:34:38.070 1424****968: yeah sorry it's 1-800-974-9794 and it's the 24 seven number for la San for illegal dumping. 313 00:34:38.700 --> 00:34:40.830 jim murez: Okay, great Thank you. 314 00:34:41.700 --> 00:34:52.560 1424****968: You know what really quick one thing don't forget lapd having their Pacific division summer carnival August 26 27th and 28 in front of Pacific station. 315 00:34:53.820 --> 00:34:55.890 jim murez: What does that what it tell us a little bit about that. 316 00:34:57.570 --> 00:35:07.710 1424****968: So it's it's a carnival and the funding goes to the the safe and fun, but it's a full on carnival there are kids that participate. 317 00:35:08.970 --> 00:35:14.250 1424****968: You know there'll be right food face painting things like that we hadn't last year. 318 00:35:15.600 --> 00:35:24.540 1424****968: I think was over Jefferson last year, but this time we moved it back in front of the station and it's it's good it's a fun time for everybody, so we hope to see all of you there. 319 00:35:25.050 --> 00:35:25.380 jim murez: You know. 320 00:35:25.620 --> 00:35:26.010 1424****968: five. 321 00:35:26.520 --> 00:35:27.660 jim murez: You know the hours. 322 00:35:28.710 --> 00:35:43.560 1424****968: Yes, so on August 26 is from 5pm to 11pm and then August 27 is from two to 11 and then August 28 is from two to 10 and some of this money also goes to our cadet Program. 323 00:35:44.730 --> 00:35:49.200 1424****968: You know, with the activities that get done throughout the summer and things like that. 324 00:35:50.640 --> 00:35:58.980 jim murez: Okay, good good good good will certainly our outreach chair is out of the country, right now, but we'll see if we can get. 325 00:36:00.630 --> 00:36:09.720 jim murez: Our communications officer vicki to see if we can get some kind of a blast out to the Community to our our mailing list on that, thank you for giving us your report. 326 00:36:09.810 --> 00:36:12.960 1424****968: You have anything else, no that's it Thank you. 327 00:36:13.170 --> 00:36:14.160 Vicki Halliday: All right, honey. 328 00:36:15.240 --> 00:36:15.690 1424****968: You. 329 00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:24.570 jim murez: Okay let's go back to where we were on our agenda committee reports, I think. 330 00:36:24.690 --> 00:36:27.570 Michael Jensen: Oh, I have not, I have nothing Jim this is me count. 331 00:36:27.870 --> 00:36:29.250 jim murez: Okay, great neighborhood. 332 00:36:29.520 --> 00:36:32.130 Daffodil Tyminski: Thinking nothing from neighborhood staffing oh. 333 00:36:32.550 --> 00:36:32.970 jim murez: i'm sorry. 334 00:36:33.870 --> 00:36:35.190 jim murez: Jim rob ocean for a walk. 335 00:36:38.430 --> 00:36:45.960 Jim Robb: yeah well I heard a couple comments from the police officers about the stuff going on the boardwalk Of course nobody come. 336 00:36:46.020 --> 00:36:47.460 Jim Robb: out and watch so. 337 00:36:47.910 --> 00:36:55.800 Jim Robb: I like to be involved since i'm the Chair of the ocean for a walk other things, we talked about and I don't know if they're on the agenda for tonight or not, or the. 338 00:36:56.340 --> 00:37:12.420 Jim Robb: Increased camping on the beach which we had a motion on scooters parking on speedway, then the painted painted speedway, which is very confusing to everybody and the Pier house expanding its. 339 00:37:13.680 --> 00:37:15.540 Jim Robb: alpha alfresco out into the street. 340 00:37:16.590 --> 00:37:23.520 Jim Robb: So you know i'd like for anybody that's dealing with stuff in the ocean front walk to please include the ocean front walk in their. 341 00:37:24.210 --> 00:37:33.930 Jim Robb: meetings and our next meeting will be on the 29th so anyway that commented earlier, the more than welcome to join us at our meeting if it's something concerning the ocean pro luck, thank you. 342 00:37:35.100 --> 00:37:39.510 jim murez: Thank you, Jim rules and selections oliver's not here is he Devon, no. 343 00:37:40.560 --> 00:37:41.400 Daffodil Tyminski: No he's not. 344 00:37:42.690 --> 00:37:45.060 jim murez: The country okay arts my Bruno. 345 00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:46.770 Bruno Hernandez: Now, and everything's. 346 00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:49.470 jim murez: Okay, thank you, thank you for. 347 00:37:50.970 --> 00:37:54.090 jim murez: For updating us i'm Chi is she here. 348 00:37:55.680 --> 00:37:57.870 Daffodil Tyminski: She is not here she's on vacation. 349 00:37:58.050 --> 00:38:01.920 jim murez: Okay, and I don't believe Stan is either do you don't see standard the audience to you. 350 00:38:02.790 --> 00:38:03.150 Daffodil Tyminski: know. 351 00:38:03.720 --> 00:38:08.520 jim murez: The Culture okay i'm going Robin Robin yours is she here. 352 00:38:09.330 --> 00:38:13.890 Daffodil Tyminski: uh someone is logged in from preserving public places, which I assume is Robin. 353 00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:15.720 Daffodil Tyminski: And Robin. 354 00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:16.560 yeah. 355 00:38:18.330 --> 00:38:26.010 Preserving Public Places Committee: that's me and i'll just mention that if you're able when emotion comes up to pull it up on the website. 356 00:38:26.040 --> 00:38:27.090 Daffodil Tyminski: We now have access to the. 357 00:38:27.090 --> 00:38:27.840 Preserving Public Places Committee: website so. 358 00:38:28.170 --> 00:38:29.880 Preserving Public Places Committee: you'll be able to see the drawing that. 359 00:38:30.930 --> 00:38:32.370 Preserving Public Places Committee: That emotion is describing. 360 00:38:34.020 --> 00:38:35.790 Preserving Public Places Committee: And then we'll talk about it. 361 00:38:37.140 --> 00:38:41.250 jim murez: Okay, thank you, so the Presidents report i'm. 362 00:38:42.720 --> 00:38:47.640 jim murez: reba i'll just be very brief, we were able to if you if you tuned in to add calm. 363 00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:53.700 jim murez: We were unclear last week, if if we had the applications or not, there was a. 364 00:38:54.540 --> 00:39:02.160 jim murez: couple of different things that happened with our email and and we were able to locate all of the applications that we believe came into the two addresses. 365 00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:08.040 jim murez: That they were sent to and that technical difficulty is now been rectified. 366 00:39:09.570 --> 00:39:18.930 jim murez: So we will be hearing the we will be selecting the three new members tonight, one for treasure one for Community officer and one for loop back. 367 00:39:20.430 --> 00:39:21.300 jim murez: um. 368 00:39:22.560 --> 00:39:34.050 jim murez: So the request for proposals for the election cycle I opened that up a couple months ago I got back some comments from various people but nobody's actually volunteering to do it. 369 00:39:34.980 --> 00:39:44.880 jim murez: Based on that i've had some conversations with the city and it seems as though it will probably be conducted the the the. 370 00:39:45.720 --> 00:39:59.280 jim murez: Promotion or outreach of the election will be conducted by the dnc for the first time in many, many years, and when I say that I mean we won't have a special committee, at least not at this point. 371 00:40:00.750 --> 00:40:21.420 jim murez: Probably have a task force of some sort or will appoint somebody to do something that will be outside the scope of what the outreach committee will be doing, and the communications officer will be doing, but since the city clerk has has taken over the actual election process. 372 00:40:21.810 --> 00:40:26.850 jim murez: Meaning that they're the ones that that send out the ballots if it's a mail in ballot they're the ones that man. 373 00:40:27.180 --> 00:40:42.090 jim murez: Or the staff, the election day voting place polling place a lot of the work that we've had to do it for many, many years that i've been and lose that others have done a great job of doing that a great turnout. 374 00:40:42.690 --> 00:40:46.470 jim murez: It seems as though a lot of that work may not have to be done this year because. 375 00:40:46.980 --> 00:40:48.570 jim murez: The city clerk is going to be doing it. 376 00:40:49.680 --> 00:40:56.790 jim murez: We will work more on that and it'll be very transparent will be handled the agendas of the. 377 00:40:57.480 --> 00:40:59.370 jim murez: committee's and the people that will be working on it. 378 00:41:01.170 --> 00:41:05.580 jim murez: So that said if anybody has any comments or questions about that feel free to. 379 00:41:05.820 --> 00:41:07.980 jim murez: send it to the dentist. 380 00:41:08.160 --> 00:41:13.200 jim murez: To that work or to the Vice President VP at denison to his. 381 00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:15.990 jim murez: Father that. 382 00:41:18.690 --> 00:41:20.340 jim murez: Moving on let's now. 383 00:41:22.890 --> 00:41:26.580 jim murez: Now it's been some public comments of items, not on the agenda. 384 00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:28.080 jim murez: By the. 385 00:41:29.160 --> 00:41:33.810 jim murez: general public will not be committee reports or anything of that nature. 386 00:41:34.080 --> 00:41:35.670 jim murez: These are just investment. 387 00:41:36.240 --> 00:41:38.460 jim murez: Comments items, not on the agenda. 388 00:41:39.390 --> 00:41:40.950 jim murez: daffodil do we have any hands up. 389 00:41:41.610 --> 00:41:43.560 Daffodil Tyminski: We do have one hand. 390 00:41:45.570 --> 00:41:46.650 Daffodil Tyminski: kalani w. 391 00:41:47.910 --> 00:41:53.460 Daffodil Tyminski: um I don't see anybody else we have a couple hands actually um. 392 00:41:54.540 --> 00:41:56.490 Daffodil Tyminski: So Claudia why don't sorry. 393 00:41:57.840 --> 00:41:58.950 Daffodil Tyminski: I just lost the screen. 394 00:42:04.770 --> 00:42:07.320 Daffodil Tyminski: sorry about the dog barking in the background is my neighbor's dog. 395 00:42:07.380 --> 00:42:08.670 jim murez: whoa so so. 396 00:42:10.050 --> 00:42:16.590 Daffodil Tyminski: We have kalani preserving public places in Africa, more and with Erica will close public comments so colony why don't you go first. 397 00:42:17.580 --> 00:42:19.470 Kalani W: Hello Come on, he would engine here. 398 00:42:20.820 --> 00:42:29.820 Kalani W: I am an active westside state coder I currently live in Marina del rey but i've lived on the West side for nearly 40 years. 399 00:42:30.420 --> 00:42:41.850 Kalani W: I just wanted to inform everyone that Obama is giving us a wonderful gift, as he vacates office in November I don't know how many of you are aware. 400 00:42:42.180 --> 00:42:55.020 Kalani W: that the road diet that cause so much controversy and mar vista is being extended down Venice boulevard on both sides from Lincoln boulevard all the way to national. 401 00:42:55.620 --> 00:43:10.950 Kalani W: covering the districts of bonnen and correct CD 11 and CD five and led ot is and the marvelous to console and the palms neighborhood console are not making people aware of it. 402 00:43:11.640 --> 00:43:21.900 Kalani W: They still if you want to find information about the there, there is a town hall and August 31, it is only posted in the palms neighborhood Council. 403 00:43:22.530 --> 00:43:39.540 Kalani W: website, it has yet to be posted in the marvis to Council website and led it has yet to do any outreach on the matters so they really don't want people to know about this it's the same same data that they use. 404 00:43:39.540 --> 00:43:42.900 Daffodil Tyminski: Drugs are you meet your need to wrap it up your overtime. 405 00:43:43.560 --> 00:43:53.550 Kalani W: Okay, I urge everyone to go to the palms neighborhood Council website August 31 I tend to town hall, this is going to choke. 406 00:43:53.640 --> 00:44:01.350 Daffodil Tyminski: Venice boulevard Thank you so much, we really need to cut you off, just to be fair to everybody, I think we get it, though i'm. 407 00:44:02.460 --> 00:44:03.600 Daffodil Tyminski: Erica more go ahead. 408 00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:12.660 Erica Moore: hi there, thank you to that last caller that will directly affect me since I have a business on Venice boulevard. 409 00:44:13.500 --> 00:44:23.760 Erica Moore: How fun more things to deal with um so I just wanted to throw this out there, I love hearing that crime report, but I have to say that the two catalytic converters stolen out of two of my vans. 410 00:44:24.240 --> 00:44:30.450 Erica Moore: Two weeks ago weren't in that report, because I didn't have time to make the report until yesterday, so I have a feeling that. 411 00:44:30.810 --> 00:44:36.240 Erica Moore: The numbers are a little higher and I also know people for a fact that do not report the crimes that happened to them. 412 00:44:36.630 --> 00:44:44.250 Erica Moore: A neighbor behind the street, where I live, over by Mr also had a entire BMW vehicle stolen off of their driveway. 413 00:44:44.970 --> 00:44:57.960 Erica Moore: So crime is pretty rampant I mean maybe it's down but i'm still experiencing, it, I just want to thank everybody for their time tonight and want to say that to read thoroughly the people who are applying for these different positions. 414 00:44:58.410 --> 00:45:11.880 Erica Moore: I think it's really important that you look at what they actually say some of the people applying scribble answers really quick they didn't answer every question, I think that these are serious positions, please take us seriously, thank you. 415 00:45:15.030 --> 00:45:21.090 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much Erica and preserving public places, I think that's Robin go ahead, you should be able to talk. 416 00:45:21.990 --> 00:45:22.260 Preserving Public Places Committee: hi. 417 00:45:22.950 --> 00:45:27.510 Preserving Public Places Committee: I just want to mention and insisted that on. 418 00:45:27.600 --> 00:45:49.710 Preserving Public Places Committee: Thursday there will be a record park meeting at 930 assume at which they are going to be voting on renewing the license that urban alchemy has to use the facility that that Westminster dog park so in case that something of interest to anyone. 419 00:45:52.620 --> 00:45:58.770 Preserving Public Places Committee: i'm not sure I get the agenda via email but show you could contact me or. 420 00:45:59.550 --> 00:46:00.510 Daffodil Tyminski: Probably it's. 421 00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:02.400 Preserving Public Places Committee: You know available online. 422 00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:06.990 Preserving Public Places Committee: But that's 930 in the morning on Thursday August, he. 423 00:46:11.130 --> 00:46:12.090 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much Robin. 424 00:46:13.980 --> 00:46:17.040 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm okay with that will close public comment Jim. 425 00:46:18.990 --> 00:46:19.590 jim murez: Okay. 426 00:46:21.030 --> 00:46:21.630 jim murez: i'm. 427 00:46:27.750 --> 00:46:34.830 jim murez: Moving right along um I need a motion to approve the prior. 428 00:46:35.160 --> 00:46:35.700 Jay Handal: i'm over. 429 00:46:37.080 --> 00:46:37.800 jim murez: Who was a. 430 00:46:38.130 --> 00:46:41.310 jim murez: Jay Thank you Jay I need a second. 431 00:46:41.790 --> 00:46:42.000 So. 432 00:46:44.220 --> 00:46:44.730 jim murez: Sorry. 433 00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:47.850 jim murez: Second, who is that club Clark. 434 00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:48.240 Clark. 435 00:46:50.490 --> 00:46:51.780 jim murez: Thank you. 436 00:46:53.070 --> 00:46:55.440 jim murez: um do we have any public comment. 437 00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.880 jim murez: Seeing none public comment is closed. 438 00:47:02.940 --> 00:47:04.320 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, I see no hands Jim. 439 00:47:05.910 --> 00:47:07.230 jim murez: cj you have your hand up. 440 00:47:11.160 --> 00:47:17.400 CJ Cole: Yes, um I still have a lot of problems reading a lot of these. 441 00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:20.310 CJ Cole: On these ministers number 10. 442 00:47:21.090 --> 00:47:30.840 CJ Cole: which has nothing it actually says nothing Okay, there is number 13 I mean, at least if we're not going to vote. 443 00:47:31.500 --> 00:47:49.410 CJ Cole: On something at least let's have a part of our Minutes that this was not addressed is just our Minutes are worthless um but there's all kinds of things like that that i'm frankly, you know it's just you know if there's. 444 00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:54.840 CJ Cole: gotta be something that says what the board did on every one of these items. 445 00:47:55.230 --> 00:47:56.670 jim murez: We said Item number 10. 446 00:47:57.210 --> 00:47:58.440 CJ Cole: I am number 10. 447 00:47:59.700 --> 00:48:01.320 jim murez: yeah i'm sharing it on the screen. 448 00:48:03.270 --> 00:48:06.090 CJ Cole: Okay yeah that's not as important as. 449 00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:07.830 CJ Cole: coming down here to. 450 00:48:07.890 --> 00:48:09.720 jim murez: Well, I don't understand your comment there's. 451 00:48:09.750 --> 00:48:10.080 jim murez: There was. 452 00:48:10.560 --> 00:48:11.820 CJ Cole: Another 13. 453 00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:12.900 CJ Cole: neighbors cuz. 454 00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:24.540 CJ Cole: Sorry, to approve the June monthly expenditure report I haven't didn't know we didn't have one, but at least we could have it somewhere in our Minutes. 455 00:48:24.600 --> 00:48:25.470 jim murez: So so. 456 00:48:25.710 --> 00:48:26.580 CJ Cole: you're getting having. 457 00:48:29.430 --> 00:48:41.880 jim murez: me, let me interrupt you Item number 13 motion to approve our June monthly expenditures report m er there was no vote taken because we did not have a report. 458 00:48:42.270 --> 00:48:47.400 CJ Cole: Here is that possible, and maybe we could put that in our Minutes. 459 00:48:47.670 --> 00:48:49.260 jim murez: Well that's what it says right there there's. 460 00:48:49.350 --> 00:49:00.750 CJ Cole: No like it doesn't really just somebody who doesn't understand your system it's so easy to just do a sentence, this was not you know really not voted on. 461 00:49:02.940 --> 00:49:03.510 jim murez: Okay well. 462 00:49:03.690 --> 00:49:06.540 melissa diner : Jim I think in the notes, you could we could just play it. 463 00:49:06.630 --> 00:49:11.190 melissa diner : looked like there was no report that's it that's all she's saying you don't have to get it back and forth. 464 00:49:11.520 --> 00:49:22.050 jim murez: there's also no link there to the to the mirror report, so there was no report presented either okay well well considered see if we can do that going through tonight. 465 00:49:23.370 --> 00:49:27.000 CJ Cole: Because it's all the way through this particular one I mean. 466 00:49:27.510 --> 00:49:29.520 jim murez: There wasn't about that's how it was that's. 467 00:49:29.520 --> 00:49:32.700 CJ Cole: Correct and it just should say that we get an address. 468 00:49:33.030 --> 00:49:33.450 Okay. 469 00:49:34.710 --> 00:49:36.300 jim murez: Melissa you have your hand up go ahead. 470 00:49:40.230 --> 00:49:42.210 jim murez: Melissa you took your hand down I guess you. 471 00:49:45.090 --> 00:49:53.700 jim murez: Let me go back to the agenda okay does anybody else have their hands up on this one item number 10 approval of prior board minutes. 472 00:49:54.330 --> 00:49:55.320 Daffodil Tyminski: I don't see anyone Jim. 473 00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:59.040 jim murez: let's take a vote, I will vote yes. 474 00:50:01.290 --> 00:50:02.340 jim murez: daffodil, how do you vote. 475 00:50:02.730 --> 00:50:03.420 Yes. 476 00:50:05.190 --> 00:50:06.210 jim murez: alyssa, how do you vote. 477 00:50:06.780 --> 00:50:08.700 jim murez: Yes, okay. 478 00:50:09.030 --> 00:50:10.680 jim murez: Yes, vicki. 479 00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:12.480 jim murez: Yes or no. 480 00:50:12.600 --> 00:50:13.200 Yes. 481 00:50:14.250 --> 00:50:15.030 jim murez: Jim rob. 482 00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:17.550 jim murez: Jason. 483 00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:19.620 jim murez: Yes, alley. 484 00:50:19.830 --> 00:50:21.870 jim murez: Yes, Mike. 485 00:50:22.260 --> 00:50:22.740 jim murez: Yes. 486 00:50:23.430 --> 00:50:24.870 Soledad Ursua: Well done, yes. 487 00:50:25.980 --> 00:50:26.790 jim murez: cj. 488 00:50:27.060 --> 00:50:27.720 Yes. 489 00:50:29.010 --> 00:50:29.550 jim murez: Robert. 490 00:50:30.900 --> 00:50:31.350 robertthibodeau: Yes. 491 00:50:32.010 --> 00:50:33.360 Clark Brown: Clark yes. 492 00:50:33.870 --> 00:50:34.560 mikael. 493 00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:37.290 Michael Jensen: yeah. 494 00:50:38.190 --> 00:50:40.560 jim murez: Great series 15 00. 495 00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:44.730 jim murez: moving along treasurer's report for August. 496 00:50:47.160 --> 00:50:49.980 jim murez: Go ahead, gay, you have the floor. 497 00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:52.350 Jay Handal: speaks for itself. 498 00:50:53.670 --> 00:50:55.050 Jay Handal: i'll take any questions. 499 00:50:56.970 --> 00:51:00.480 jim murez: um let's see I don't think there's emotion there so. 500 00:51:02.130 --> 00:51:02.820 jim murez: motion. 501 00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:04.560 Jay Handal: No motion. 502 00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:10.860 jim murez: I do see where there was a hand that was raised, but there's no motion we don't need to take questions on this one it's just you're giving a report. 503 00:51:11.130 --> 00:51:14.010 jim murez: Correct okay let's let's move along. 504 00:51:15.930 --> 00:51:18.210 jim murez: So now we're on Item number 12. 505 00:51:19.980 --> 00:51:26.190 jim murez: um Somebody needs to make the motion this is for outreach for candidate events. 506 00:51:26.730 --> 00:51:27.240 Jay Handal: move it. 507 00:51:28.680 --> 00:51:31.080 jim murez: Thank you Jay makes the motion do we have. 508 00:51:35.160 --> 00:51:36.780 jim murez: Somebody want a second this. 509 00:51:36.870 --> 00:51:38.010 Jason Sugars: Jason will second. 510 00:51:39.450 --> 00:51:41.700 jim murez: Jason second to thank you Jason. 511 00:51:43.620 --> 00:51:46.140 jim murez: No do we have any public comment on the side of. 512 00:51:47.640 --> 00:51:49.290 Daffodil Tyminski: We do have a few hands raised. 513 00:51:49.470 --> 00:51:51.780 jim murez: Okay, you want to start, calling on them. 514 00:51:51.900 --> 00:51:54.810 Daffodil Tyminski: Sure Lisa why don't you go ahead first. 515 00:51:56.250 --> 00:51:56.880 Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa redmond. 516 00:51:57.870 --> 00:52:09.630 Lisa Redmond: yeah I have some issues with this motion, the first being that you're proving for funding for an event that has been approved, yet this motion should come after the. 517 00:52:10.200 --> 00:52:21.900 Lisa Redmond: motion to approve an event, secondly um I think the motion was made illegally in outreach because it did not have corn, but fine so we left off to other. 518 00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:26.310 Lisa Redmond: Newspapers so now we're left with just two publications. 519 00:52:26.700 --> 00:52:35.880 Lisa Redmond: There is no detailed report about how this is going to be spent in the publications, as is supposed to happen in the funding guidelines for the city also missing. 520 00:52:37.020 --> 00:52:42.000 Lisa Redmond: Of those two publications one is a monthly magazine, so we probably already missed the cutoff. 521 00:52:42.450 --> 00:52:45.030 Lisa Redmond: So you can now take all that money. 522 00:52:45.900 --> 00:52:47.400 Lisa Redmond: Of 30 $500. 523 00:52:47.520 --> 00:52:48.630 Lisa Redmond: And double down. 524 00:52:49.110 --> 00:52:49.770 Lisa Redmond: To one. 525 00:52:49.860 --> 00:52:58.080 Lisa Redmond: Publication or other and it's a ridiculous it's like 11% of the total nc budget it's just a huge waste of money. 526 00:53:02.010 --> 00:53:02.610 jim murez: Thank you. 527 00:53:03.390 --> 00:53:04.620 jim murez: We have any other staff adele. 528 00:53:05.460 --> 00:53:11.700 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh yes, we do Helen found why don't you go next and with Helen will close public comment it's the last hand raised. 529 00:53:12.600 --> 00:53:21.780 Helen Fallon: Yes, I agree with recent comments and I, and this is not a complete funding motion funding motion should include not only who you're paying. 530 00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:40.410 Helen Fallon: But why what you're purchasing and how much you're going to spend a spending money on Venice living an organic the publication doesn't even have a website it's just bizarre that that would have been included, I and because several of the. 531 00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:46.350 Helen Fallon: publications were removed because of the conflict of interest issue. 532 00:53:47.910 --> 00:53:49.170 Helen Fallon: The funding amount. 533 00:53:49.260 --> 00:53:50.430 Daffodil Tyminski: should have been revised. 534 00:53:50.490 --> 00:53:59.010 Helen Fallon: This is a very bad mode it's a core emotion it's not properly constructed and doesn't reflect the guidelines that are required to follow, thank you. 535 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:04.020 jim murez: Thank you um so public comment is now closed. 536 00:54:04.770 --> 00:54:04.980 yeah. 537 00:54:06.270 --> 00:54:17.220 jim murez: I do see chase handle I just want to remind everyone the city attorney in conversations with myself I don't know six weeks ago, or so explain this issue of. 538 00:54:18.540 --> 00:54:20.250 jim murez: recusal a bit more. 539 00:54:21.450 --> 00:54:34.350 jim murez: And conflict of interest conflict of interest is something that the individual themselves have to announce that they have a conflict of interest and in the case that that we heard this. 540 00:54:34.620 --> 00:54:38.310 jim murez: item in the committee in the budget and Finance Committee that. 541 00:54:38.490 --> 00:54:51.480 jim murez: That I attended and that i'm a member of I was sort of sort of over forgot that the individuals that were being accused of of. 542 00:54:52.020 --> 00:54:54.480 jim murez: Having a conflict of interest we're not even at the meeting. 543 00:54:54.930 --> 00:55:07.230 jim murez: So, to say that they had a conflict that somebody else, saying that they had a conflict of interest in there for these items should be removed was completely inappropriate in my belief, based on what the city attorney has explained to me. 544 00:55:09.060 --> 00:55:15.690 jim murez: You know what that'll be corrected later, but in the meantime let's go through the hands of, I just wanted to put that out there, so everybody's aware of it. 545 00:55:16.140 --> 00:55:19.590 jim murez: um Jay your hand was up first go ahead, please. 546 00:55:19.620 --> 00:55:33.690 Jay Handal: yeah so just to be clear what this what this is an authorization to appropriate money, this is not a spend on individual items that needs to come back. 547 00:55:34.230 --> 00:55:46.380 Jay Handal: To be approved, so this takes it out of the budget line item to be able to move it forward and if, in fact, the candidates agreed to a date. 548 00:55:47.010 --> 00:55:51.930 Jay Handal: Then it would have to come back and individual expenditures. 549 00:55:52.500 --> 00:56:03.510 Jay Handal: per item like organized or yo Venice or whomever is authorized would then have to be approved for the individual expenditure. 550 00:56:04.080 --> 00:56:18.420 Jay Handal: And a BA see would have to be created for each one, so I just you know caution everybody, not to think that this is an authorization to just go spend 30 $500 on one or two of these publications. 551 00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:32.700 Jay Handal: The publications were called out originally but the actual expenditures will need to come back under the funding guidelines, so this is nothing more than an authorization and when it if and when it's approved. 552 00:56:33.210 --> 00:56:42.000 Jay Handal: If you go on to the link that i've provided on the website of a running total per category, it will be temporarily deducted. 553 00:56:42.720 --> 00:56:45.450 Jay Handal: So that if there are other expenditures. 554 00:56:45.570 --> 00:56:50.790 Jay Handal: For that category, we don't exceed it based on commitments. 555 00:56:50.940 --> 00:56:56.730 Jay Handal: But not actual expenditures so just I just want to clarify that for. 556 00:56:56.730 --> 00:57:12.810 jim murez: Everybody I think that helps and just real quick jake could you tell us all, what they you're very familiar with this budget stuff I know you've been doing it for 20 years of can you just tell us what the acronym was the US, I think it started with a B. 557 00:57:13.770 --> 00:57:19.650 Jay Handal: be a seat and blood action count so it's when you when we vote on anything funding. 558 00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:28.080 Jay Handal: yeah I have to fill out a form that daffodil and I have to sign that then gets attached to. 559 00:57:29.100 --> 00:57:30.570 Jay Handal: The request for the money. 560 00:57:30.990 --> 00:57:38.190 Jay Handal: Okay, to the city on the website without that BA see then i'm going to fund anything so it doesn't matter. 561 00:57:38.580 --> 00:57:42.240 jim murez: Right and and and somehow I think the deeper the first. 562 00:57:43.620 --> 00:57:50.160 jim murez: The first treasure of our term here, he wasn't sharing that with us and we weren't getting those countersigned and it wasn't happening. 563 00:57:50.430 --> 00:57:58.230 jim murez: I think that caused a lot of problems for us originally that you were able to clear up alright well, thank you for that Melissa you have your hand up go ahead, please, Melissa. 564 00:57:58.860 --> 00:58:11.850 melissa diner : yeah i'm unclear, so we can support as a neighborhood Council any event that's city state or federal without any approval we can just repost it doesn't need to go through board. 565 00:58:12.300 --> 00:58:21.540 melissa diner : But you're saying that we can't just approve funds to support events that are for the same purpose as long as their. 566 00:58:22.200 --> 00:58:29.160 melissa diner : neighborhood Council city state or federal, it has to come back, I just want to make sure we're not further aiding. 567 00:58:29.700 --> 00:58:38.280 melissa diner : In voter restraints something i'm adamantly against that we're only helping to bring it back if it's something that's already been approved. 568 00:58:38.790 --> 00:58:45.570 melissa diner : By neighborhood Council city state or federal, it should not have to come back for us to be able to promote it on social media. 569 00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:52.560 melissa diner : And we should be able to use these funds talked about so I just want to clarify that that's fine and we can use these funds through that. 570 00:58:52.770 --> 00:59:05.310 melissa diner : It would just be I guess what you're saying for the ads for the Argonaut and Venice living which I also don't understand why would have to come back, I just want to make sure we're not encumbering ourselves to promote people to vote. 571 00:59:05.730 --> 00:59:06.900 jim murez: So we. 572 00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:08.880 Daffodil Tyminski: Can TIM very quickly. 573 00:59:08.940 --> 00:59:14.160 Daffodil Tyminski: I need to step out of the meeting for one SEC to handle something um i'll come back in two minutes okay. 574 00:59:14.790 --> 00:59:16.560 Jay Handal: So, Melissa if I can this. 575 00:59:16.560 --> 00:59:19.470 jim murez: Is Jay hey do you want to answer, Melissa would you. 576 00:59:20.220 --> 00:59:33.690 Jay Handal: yeah so Melissa you know, there are funding requirements by the city clerk's office and we're bound by those funding requirements it's not about voter suppression, you know it's more about. 577 00:59:36.750 --> 00:59:43.320 Jay Handal: trailing the money Okay, they want to see every dime where it goes how it goes, and that it was all approved. 578 00:59:44.040 --> 00:59:55.710 Jay Handal: So yes, every expenditure and it's not a line item in the annual budget has to come back for an approval so, for instance. 579 00:59:56.280 --> 01:00:14.430 Jay Handal: If we have a line item in the budget that says Facebook advertising 1200 dollars for the year we get to spend that 1200 dollars without coming back every single time and if you want to promote an event on there that's one thing Okay, but. 580 01:00:14.460 --> 01:00:22.500 melissa diner : Okay, so, then, then we just just to be clear just real quick do we just need to make an amendment been to say Facebook instagram. 581 01:00:22.680 --> 01:00:25.560 melissa diner : Argonaut and done this living and then it doesn't have to come back. 582 01:00:25.950 --> 01:00:26.310 melissa diner : No. 583 01:00:26.430 --> 01:00:27.510 melissa diner : want to make sure i'm. 584 01:00:27.510 --> 01:00:29.310 melissa diner : Making it as easy as possible. 585 01:00:29.430 --> 01:00:44.250 Jay Handal: No, we can't do it, it has what I just told you, has to be in the annual budget and we don't have that in the budget so anything, not in the budget would have to come to the board for approval of an individual expenditure. 586 01:00:44.670 --> 01:00:46.470 melissa diner : But it's in front of us now. 587 01:00:46.680 --> 01:00:50.160 Jay Handal: Melissa we can't do it this, this is the format. 588 01:00:50.190 --> 01:00:54.540 Jay Handal: for which the city requires, which is why it's gone through budget and. 589 01:00:54.540 --> 01:00:55.200 melissa diner : finance. 590 01:00:55.230 --> 01:01:00.090 melissa diner : Why are we even hearing it i'm just i'm confused because we've never done this before, if it had. 591 01:01:00.210 --> 01:01:03.270 melissa diner : To go back and guns and why would we even have it on the agenda. 592 01:01:03.870 --> 01:01:06.120 Jay Handal: Because you have to allocate the money first. 593 01:01:06.720 --> 01:01:24.750 Jay Handal: we're allocating we're giving the outreach committee the latitude to try and hold an event when she's ready to actually spend the money on the event item by item she'll give us a budget list, and we will go ahead and approve or not approve the individual budget items. 594 01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:44.040 jim murez: Let me Melissa, let me just toss out there, the outreach committee was concerned that they would not be able to get the allocation if they did the work, so this was a way of being able to say if the board approves this allocation. 595 01:01:45.420 --> 01:01:56.850 jim murez: And you're able to pull together the event, and this is going to come up later in the agenda, then the funds will be available but you'll have to tell us how you actually intend to use them. 596 01:01:57.330 --> 01:02:07.200 melissa diner : that's fine it sounds like it's just again the city, making it more difficult for all of us to take two steps it's ridiculous, but I appreciate all your efforts and. 597 01:02:07.620 --> 01:02:19.740 melissa diner : i'm were just wanted to see if there was a way to help promote any type of voting event is separate, especially since we can do that already if it doesn't require funds, so no problem thanks for the explanation. 598 01:02:20.100 --> 01:02:23.100 jim murez: It has a lot to do with we're not sure if. 599 01:02:23.250 --> 01:02:30.000 jim murez: The candidates will be available and we're on a very short timeline so by the time. 600 01:02:30.750 --> 01:02:39.930 jim murez: The candidates were to say yes, we only have one more meeting, maybe, or we have to have a special meeting just to be able to approve the actual expenditures. 601 01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:52.680 jim murez: that's a different story, but she needed to know that the Board was behind spending funding to be able to do it so she could put together the organizational issues that it takes to do it, and this is one of them. 602 01:02:53.100 --> 01:02:53.340 Jay Handal: and 603 01:02:54.210 --> 01:02:55.590 jim murez: Jim, can I just say one. 604 01:02:55.590 --> 01:03:00.720 Jay Handal: More thing to add into that, based on the bylaws and the standing rules. 605 01:03:01.890 --> 01:03:09.270 Jay Handal: In order to get these expenditures and disapproval through it's it's three different meanings of three different committees. 606 01:03:10.200 --> 01:03:24.720 Jay Handal: Its its budget it's outreach and then its board and based on the timing of all the meetings, this is why we have to do these things so far in advance okay to get an allocation. 607 01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:34.680 Jay Handal: Because there's so much time in between, but yet it's compressed so if we if Now this is approved. 608 01:03:35.460 --> 01:03:52.560 Jay Handal: Now, the only way to come back as to a board meeting to get final approval, she doesn't have to go back to the budget, she doesn't have to go back to outreach she has to go back to the board for final approval of each expenditure that's why this whole thing is so convoluted. 609 01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:56.130 melissa diner : And if, like mar Council mar vista decided to. 610 01:03:56.130 --> 01:03:57.210 Jay Handal: host this forum. 611 01:03:57.270 --> 01:04:00.960 melissa diner : Not us we couldn't just use this funds based on this motion. 612 01:04:00.990 --> 01:04:03.240 Jay Handal: that's all i'm trying to understand it's great. 613 01:04:03.900 --> 01:04:04.470 Jay Handal: Okay cool. 614 01:04:04.890 --> 01:04:07.530 jim murez: Thanks okay um Allah you have your hand up. 615 01:04:07.860 --> 01:04:11.760 jim murez: yeah great so JP to both lower your hands, that would be helpful. 616 01:04:12.450 --> 01:04:21.390 Alley Bean: um i'm so confused by what jj said because he's basically saying that we should not get specific at this point i'm all for having a candidate for them. 617 01:04:21.810 --> 01:04:27.210 Alley Bean: But the motion does say funds to exclude, for example, yo Venice and westside current. 618 01:04:27.510 --> 01:04:38.610 Alley Bean: Funds to include the Argonaut and Venice living, it seems like that's all supposed to come later, so I find this all I don't know why the outreach officer didn't consult with the treasurer and make this. 619 01:04:38.940 --> 01:04:49.410 Alley Bean: A clear motion for us just to approve the allocation of funds that will be made specific and voted on later it's just not worded well it's worded very confusing. 620 01:04:49.890 --> 01:04:56.340 Alley Bean: And I think everybody wants would I assume I shouldn't say that I don't want to assume that that people want a candidate forum, but if they do. 621 01:04:57.120 --> 01:05:04.950 Alley Bean: I don't mind the figure or anything like that, but it's it's, why is it so specific if we're not supposed to do that at this point it's badly organized as stores. 622 01:05:05.160 --> 01:05:12.990 jim murez: Certain food has to do, let me repeat this, it has to do with the timing of the election being in November. 623 01:05:13.110 --> 01:05:17.340 Alley Bean: Well i'm talking about the specifics of the allocation the organized or yo bonus or. 624 01:05:17.730 --> 01:05:18.870 jim murez: Let me finish, please. 625 01:05:19.140 --> 01:05:19.470 Okay. 626 01:05:20.670 --> 01:05:21.150 jim murez: The. 627 01:05:21.240 --> 01:05:29.910 jim murez: election is at the beginning of November, the candidates have made it clear that they're not available during September. 628 01:05:30.570 --> 01:05:36.000 jim murez: And that only gives October, and I believe there's only one weekend October when. 629 01:05:36.780 --> 01:05:49.200 jim murez: outreach has had any success at all, you could go back and listen to their committee meetings, about what they've already that the work that they've already done to try and put it together, the problem is, if we wait until. 630 01:05:50.310 --> 01:05:54.300 jim murez: September we won't have absolute confirmation. 631 01:05:56.220 --> 01:06:09.180 jim murez: That she'll have the funding available to her to be able to do it, and in the meantime, from now until the third week of September, she can already start working if the allocation is allowed. 632 01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:20.310 jim murez: She can already start working on putting together the meeting having being able to go to the candidates and say we are going to do X, Y Z because we have the allocation. 633 01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:35.910 jim murez: If you will agree to come to a candidate forum in October and that only gives her that one opportunity then to get the final approval to be able to do it if the candidates, then say yes. 634 01:06:37.710 --> 01:06:40.350 jim murez: it's because we're on a very, very short fuse. 635 01:06:40.680 --> 01:06:48.330 Soledad Ursua: Then that's not her question she's asking why we have to specifically exclude yo Venice and what's a current that that should not should. 636 01:06:48.330 --> 01:06:49.230 Soledad Ursua: be taken, how. 637 01:06:50.310 --> 01:06:51.540 Soledad Ursua: kind of irrelevant. 638 01:06:52.560 --> 01:06:59.040 jim murez: Because the reason that we were excluding them was because somebody made a comment in the meat in the. 639 01:06:59.550 --> 01:07:01.290 jim murez: Budget meeting that there was a. 640 01:07:02.550 --> 01:07:11.220 jim murez: conflict of interest and the two people that were being claimed to be in conflict we're not at the meeting and they weren't claiming it, but we just went ahead and. 641 01:07:12.570 --> 01:07:19.380 jim murez: At this point in time, because we knew that if it came back before the board the board can put it back in if it was being done correctly. 642 01:07:20.340 --> 01:07:39.090 jim murez: If those people hadn't voted those the supposedly those two individuals were both in the outreach meeting that requested the funds of the Budget Committee, and they should not have been voting in the outreach meeting if they indeed had a conflict of interest. 643 01:07:40.110 --> 01:07:43.500 jim murez: And it wasn't clear if they had a conflict of interest or not, but in the. 644 01:07:45.600 --> 01:07:55.830 jim murez: effort to move this thing forward and get the allocation made we said Okay, well, we will just exclude those two places where somebody claiming that there wasn't. 645 01:07:56.130 --> 01:08:01.560 jim murez: a conflict of interest and let the outreach committee go back and re vote on it later. 646 01:08:02.100 --> 01:08:07.920 jim murez: When they decided what actually is going to get spent if they actually can get the candidates, so when it comes back to the board. 647 01:08:08.160 --> 01:08:17.400 jim murez: If they come back to the board with a clean vote where those two people were not participating in their meeting than those two entities could also still be funded. 648 01:08:17.730 --> 01:08:28.560 jim murez: Because they still have to come back before the board, but the allocation at this point is for the money it's not for the individual how the money is going to be spent it's just saying, are we are, we want to spend some money on these things. 649 01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:37.230 Alley Bean: Can I reiterate, Jim therefore why don't we just say that, in the motion and not have any specifics, which are making everybody a little crazy because. 650 01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:47.250 Alley Bean: they're irrelevant at this point, according to what jj said and I don't know why the outreach candidate didn't talk to Jay about this motion, but we should just be approving the 30 $400. 651 01:08:47.580 --> 01:08:52.170 Alley Bean: And then everybody will come back to the board with his specifics, that will vote on again and go at. 652 01:08:52.710 --> 01:08:55.920 jim murez: So, would you like to propose that, as an alternate motion le. 653 01:08:56.010 --> 01:08:56.910 Alley Bean: Yes, I would. 654 01:08:57.270 --> 01:08:58.920 Alley Bean: Do which is clarified. 655 01:08:58.980 --> 01:09:12.090 Alley Bean: And it's a it's a probing 30 $400 to be spent on outreach for this candidates forum and that the specifics will be dealt with as Jay said, which I don't understand, but he knows, I mean I I don't understand the details when. 656 01:09:12.180 --> 01:09:12.720 jim murez: I just. 657 01:09:14.460 --> 01:09:20.700 jim murez: If I just take off this part at the end of this here, where it says funds to exclude these. 658 01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:23.670 jim murez: Yes, then the motion includes everything you wanted to say. 659 01:09:23.970 --> 01:09:28.890 Alley Bean: yeah and I think you should take out the description to to include Argonaut Venice living. 660 01:09:28.950 --> 01:09:34.650 jim murez: Though that that's in the description we can't change the description, we can change well because it's part of the agenda. 661 01:09:36.510 --> 01:09:38.490 jim murez: We can't write an alternate description. 662 01:09:39.510 --> 01:09:45.660 jim murez: Because we can we can make them, we can make the motion change to do whatever we wanted to do we can't change the description was just. 663 01:09:47.040 --> 01:09:55.410 jim murez: Okay, so we want to take that out i'll change the comma to a period and I need alley I assume you want to be the maker of the motion. 664 01:09:55.800 --> 01:09:57.180 Alley Bean: I will be the maker of the motion. 665 01:09:58.410 --> 01:09:58.980 Mike Bravo: Second. 666 01:09:59.370 --> 01:09:59.730 jim murez: Like. 667 01:10:00.240 --> 01:10:05.700 jim murez: I have to find alley first there you are Mike you seconded. 668 01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:10.170 jim murez: Yes, okay is daffodil back. 669 01:10:11.850 --> 01:10:17.010 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm here, Jim i'm so sorry to my apologies i'm I need a delivery that I have to sign for and a. 670 01:10:17.670 --> 01:10:25.290 jim murez: track it down we just made an alternate motion if you weren't here I guess you heard it, we need to take public comment on the alternate motion. 671 01:10:25.530 --> 01:10:26.010 sure. 672 01:10:31.470 --> 01:10:32.670 jim murez: I can almost guess. 673 01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:33.690 The commenters are. 674 01:10:35.010 --> 01:10:37.290 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, i'm Helen fail and go ahead. 675 01:10:39.330 --> 01:10:47.430 Helen Fallon: I just quickly, I do want to point out vicki colonnaded recuse herself on this motion so she actually was in fact in eligible to vote in the outreach many. 676 01:10:47.970 --> 01:10:58.830 Helen Fallon: More to the point, if you're going to change this and remove those two items I think you should also add the language that this is just setting aside the money does not reflect does not authorize. 677 01:10:59.010 --> 01:11:02.400 Helen Fallon: expenditures until detail is provided to the board. 678 01:11:03.120 --> 01:11:03.720 Helen Fallon: Thank you. 679 01:11:05.850 --> 01:11:06.150 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks. 680 01:11:07.410 --> 01:11:08.370 Daffodil Tyminski: Erica more go ahead. 681 01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:12.600 Erica Moore: hey there, I just wanted to state that. 682 01:11:13.140 --> 01:11:23.010 Erica Moore: This is another example of just waiting to the last minute and I really think that the real issue we're having is the outreach committee our needs to be. 683 01:11:23.610 --> 01:11:34.050 Erica Moore: Looking at these things ahead and doing the work in advance when you're planning a special event, you don't wait till right before it, especially when you're involving people who do have scheduled. 684 01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:40.110 Erica Moore: This should have been planned months and months ago we wouldn't be going through all this drama, and this is what happened that last time. 685 01:11:41.400 --> 01:11:53.910 Erica Moore: it's all it's all avoidable if people were doing a positions I realized, these are volunteer positions but don't volunteer for position if you're not going to do it that's, all I can say, and I think that there is. 686 01:11:55.110 --> 01:12:08.550 Erica Moore: And it's also censorship, if you are not allowing certain publications, I get the thing about those people should not be voting, I agree with that, but this is just there's a lot of convolution here I don't know, should it be very simple and easy to put this together, thank you. 687 01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:17.490 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you i'm kalani w go ahead and with kalani we will close public comment. 688 01:12:21.660 --> 01:12:33.150 Kalani W: I just thought i'd let you know that you're a neighborhood console and mar vista neighborhood console are also looking to have a town hall, and you might want to reach out and and do. 689 01:12:33.690 --> 01:12:43.200 Kalani W: A partnership with them, because the individual town halls for the primary candidates were not really well attended and you would really be doing. 690 01:12:43.500 --> 01:12:52.320 Kalani W: The candidates, a favor if all three of you got together and had a town hall because less than one 10th of 1%. 691 01:12:53.010 --> 01:13:14.610 Kalani W: Most neighborhood concerts have less than one 10th of 1% stakeholder participation, this would be a way to get more stakeholder participation at these town halls, by the way, I emailed a few of you, the flyer for the August 31st Venice boulevard road diet town hall, thank you. 692 01:13:16.020 --> 01:13:19.560 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much kalani and with that you have a comment. 693 01:13:21.150 --> 01:13:22.710 jim murez: Thank you um. 694 01:13:25.020 --> 01:13:34.860 jim murez: I would just like to make it clear, people are calling this different things and and it's candidate event we're not doing a town hall. 695 01:13:36.270 --> 01:13:37.500 jim murez: it's not being asked for. 696 01:13:38.040 --> 01:13:48.660 jim murez: And it's also not a meeting it's it's just being called an event, and that was one of the things that the city attorney made clear, it cannot be a town hall, and it cannot be a meeting. 697 01:13:49.410 --> 01:13:49.920 i'm. 698 01:13:51.240 --> 01:13:53.700 jim murez: ellie you have your hand up I don't know if that was from before. 699 01:13:54.870 --> 01:13:56.160 jim murez: will take board comment on the. 700 01:13:56.160 --> 01:13:57.630 Alley Bean: Motion i'll take it down. 701 01:13:57.960 --> 01:14:00.210 jim murez: Okay, Jim rob you have your hand up. 702 01:14:01.230 --> 01:14:16.980 Jim Robb: What we're talking about these elections and stuff like that my quick is quick question, are we going to be in person doing these meetings, by the time this all happens, are we going to be doing this by zoom how is how are these candidate forums, going to be set up. 703 01:14:17.730 --> 01:14:22.560 jim murez: So they will be some sort of an event it's not 100% clear because it hasn't been. 704 01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:29.790 jim murez: 100% designed yet, and that is the next step to come. 705 01:14:30.810 --> 01:14:46.500 jim murez: It was made clear, myself and Sema and and Freddie and the city attorney and people from done, we were all on the same zoom call together, we cannot make it a meeting, we cannot make it a town hall. 706 01:14:47.550 --> 01:14:52.890 jim murez: It seems as though the only way we can do the event would be. 707 01:14:54.450 --> 01:15:01.740 jim murez: If the event was done by zoom all of the candidates have all said they don't want to do that, and if it's done live. 708 01:15:02.940 --> 01:15:12.120 jim murez: there's a lot of other issues that the candidates have been getting attacked verbally and and they don't want to expose without having security present. 709 01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:33.300 jim murez: And it's not clear, we can't use several of the public spaces, that would normally be available to us with Ada access we can't use those in in many cases it's not clear if we can use the school for that, but we cannot use reckon parks faces supposedly. 710 01:15:34.530 --> 01:15:45.780 jim murez: And so we would also have to still find a space so is this at this point there's a lot of moving parts, and these are all things that outreach is going to have to nail down before it can happen. 711 01:15:46.470 --> 01:15:57.510 Jim Robb: Well, real quick on that yeah with before you were President yeah I had many stalkers when I was at Westminster, but I had to deal with it, that was part of the part of the whole deal, so you know. 712 01:15:57.540 --> 01:16:01.440 Jim Robb: Thank you want to be on the Council and you should be able to have tough skin I guess. 713 01:16:01.890 --> 01:16:02.610 Jim Robb: yeah Thank you. 714 01:16:03.570 --> 01:16:06.570 jim murez: Okay um we have any other hands up. 715 01:16:08.340 --> 01:16:11.310 jim murez: Any other committee members, see I. 716 01:16:11.730 --> 01:16:13.650 Daffodil Tyminski: already closed public comment, a little while ago. 717 01:16:14.160 --> 01:16:16.380 jim murez: Public comment was already closed were just on. 718 01:16:16.590 --> 01:16:22.770 Daffodil Tyminski: Just on the board comments now why don't we do one hand up, who is that still Jim Jim i'm going to lower your hand. 719 01:16:23.190 --> 01:16:24.210 Daffodil Tyminski: up so as his head oh. 720 01:16:25.320 --> 01:16:33.030 jim murez: There we go okay let's go ahead now take a boat def adult let's see let's do it this way um anybody abstaining. 721 01:16:34.860 --> 01:16:38.610 jim murez: Okay anybody saying no. 722 01:16:41.820 --> 01:16:46.170 jim murez: No nose, I will check everybody officer yes. 723 01:16:50.370 --> 01:16:51.030 jim murez: This one. 724 01:16:55.920 --> 01:16:56.730 jim murez: Sorry, what was that. 725 01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:00.240 Michael Jensen: You just missed you missed one. 726 01:17:01.020 --> 01:17:02.610 jim murez: I think I got them all now right. 727 01:17:03.330 --> 01:17:08.160 Soledad Ursua: Jim i'm i'm not voting because I have to retain my funding so i'm. 728 01:17:09.390 --> 01:17:13.410 jim murez: So you are recused I guess is how it is. 729 01:17:14.790 --> 01:17:19.410 jim murez: eligible there you go there was one other person Melissa was also ineligible. 730 01:17:20.040 --> 01:17:21.270 jim murez: Thank you for inviting me. 731 01:17:21.540 --> 01:17:24.180 robertthibodeau: I think Liz in here, even though she's marked absent. 732 01:17:25.830 --> 01:17:26.910 jim murez: Little Elizabeth is here. 733 01:17:28.140 --> 01:17:28.950 jim murez: was a bit quite. 734 01:17:31.320 --> 01:17:32.220 robertthibodeau: Sure, on the list. 735 01:17:33.690 --> 01:17:35.040 jim murez: Oh, maybe she's in the audience. 736 01:17:37.230 --> 01:17:41.820 Daffodil Tyminski: She did she did come in at some point, and then dropped off and she may be back I it's. 737 01:17:41.910 --> 01:17:45.690 Jim Robb: right there she's waving at you all the very bottom this year waving. 738 01:17:46.200 --> 01:17:46.950 Jim Robb: hi Elizabeth. 739 01:17:47.670 --> 01:17:49.080 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I just don't have that view. 740 01:17:51.210 --> 01:17:51.510 Jim Robb: Air. 741 01:17:51.990 --> 01:17:53.190 Jim Robb: Elizabeth oh yes or no. 742 01:17:53.190 --> 01:17:55.680 jim murez: Elizabeth Elizabeth are you here. 743 01:18:00.300 --> 01:18:00.990 Elizabeth c: I am here. 744 01:18:01.770 --> 01:18:01.980 jim murez: Oh. 745 01:18:02.010 --> 01:18:02.850 Elizabeth c: I can vote. 746 01:18:04.260 --> 01:18:05.610 jim murez: Okay hold on. 747 01:18:08.100 --> 01:18:09.660 jim murez: Elizabeth is here. 748 01:18:20.010 --> 01:18:21.360 jim murez: see if this will work. 749 01:18:25.260 --> 01:18:29.100 Daffodil Tyminski: gym vicki virtues so she is not you ever down as a yes. 750 01:18:29.970 --> 01:18:34.830 melissa diner : And also, when did mine expire i'll look but i'm not eligible. 751 01:18:35.250 --> 01:18:39.390 melissa diner : I must it's still the air from previously from entirely which they corrected. 752 01:18:39.690 --> 01:18:40.770 jim murez: I don't know Elizabeth. 753 01:18:41.010 --> 01:18:47.220 jim murez: i'll have to figure out how to mark you here are voting on this item, because I didn't do it before we started this item. 754 01:18:47.220 --> 01:18:47.460 So. 755 01:18:48.630 --> 01:18:50.940 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sorry Jim i'm trying to do something here. 756 01:18:52.740 --> 01:18:53.130 Daffodil Tyminski: I will. 757 01:18:54.870 --> 01:18:55.380 jim murez: There we go. 758 01:18:56.160 --> 01:19:05.730 jim murez: i'll have to update this later i'm not sure why it's not doing it, but I will make a note to fix that so the it will end up being. 759 01:19:07.380 --> 01:19:10.050 robertthibodeau: Most Melissa mentioned that she's not ineligible. 760 01:19:12.600 --> 01:19:19.770 jim murez: The city clerk's office, the city clerk's website says he is and actually Freddie sent out an email and. 761 01:19:20.850 --> 01:19:21.870 jim murez: i'm not sure. 762 01:19:26.370 --> 01:19:29.040 jim murez: How to deal with that I was told that she can't vote so. 763 01:19:30.090 --> 01:19:32.880 jim murez: i'm not going to argue about it it's not that important at this point. 764 01:19:34.950 --> 01:19:46.710 jim murez: 12 yeses that's good enough and with Elizabeth that would be one more okay now we're on to Item number 13, which is the general consent calendar. 765 01:19:49.980 --> 01:19:51.660 CJ Cole: I need to recuse. 766 01:19:53.010 --> 01:20:06.570 jim murez: hold on hold on hold on we wanted to get the committee reports now that we're done with the treasures items we had said, we were going to do them right after the treasurer stuff and that's move the I think it was Item number. 767 01:20:09.300 --> 01:20:11.940 jim murez: Six where did it go. 768 01:20:16.170 --> 01:20:21.660 jim murez: Here yeah 26 so we're going to move down to 26 and we'll come back um. 769 01:20:23.580 --> 01:20:24.480 jim murez: If you have. 770 01:20:26.250 --> 01:20:35.580 melissa diner : My for the record my trainings as 818 23 i'm just noting it for the record I don't care if you mark my vote but typically you don't vote. 771 01:20:36.120 --> 01:20:38.100 jim murez: So you're not allowed to vote. 772 01:20:38.250 --> 01:20:41.700 jim murez: or you're not allowed to vote on on. 773 01:20:43.980 --> 01:20:49.020 jim murez: budget items, if you don't have all three of your. 774 01:20:52.080 --> 01:20:58.680 jim murez: trainings completed so you have one here, that is, the ethics that expired on in on a. 775 01:21:01.890 --> 01:21:10.320 jim murez: You, the other two are fine it's just it's just the ethics and the other one is down here solid dead, which is 610 22 that's why she wasn't able to. 776 01:21:12.240 --> 01:21:16.560 jim murez: that it was in an email from Freddie I can argue about it it's just the way it is i'm sorry. 777 01:21:18.450 --> 01:21:21.780 melissa diner : it's still am I not allowed to vote the whole meeting, I just want to understand. 778 01:21:22.200 --> 01:21:23.790 melissa diner : Oh yes, on financial. 779 01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:27.510 jim murez: holy both of you are only on funding issues. 780 01:21:27.660 --> 01:21:28.650 jim murez: That was the only way. 781 01:21:29.460 --> 01:21:33.390 melissa diner : I just was not aware of this, I want to make sure i'm clear Thank you yeah. 782 01:21:33.750 --> 01:21:34.080 Okay. 783 01:21:36.420 --> 01:21:40.860 jim murez: um Okay, so now we're going to renew committees or not. 784 01:21:41.940 --> 01:21:43.500 jim murez: So on that. 785 01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:49.470 jim murez: We need somebody to make the motion. 786 01:21:50.610 --> 01:21:54.960 jim murez: And then we need somebody to the second it and then let's let the committee make a couple minute presentation. 787 01:21:55.500 --> 01:21:57.540 Vicki Halliday: i'll make the motion in this one, Jim dickie. 788 01:21:58.950 --> 01:21:59.910 jim murez: Okay. 789 01:22:01.140 --> 01:22:02.610 jim murez: And we need somebody to say. 790 01:22:02.640 --> 01:22:04.320 jim murez: i'll second who was that. 791 01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:05.580 Elizabeth c: Was that. 792 01:22:06.300 --> 01:22:07.170 jim murez: Thank you Elizabeth. 793 01:22:10.080 --> 01:22:11.670 jim murez: There we go okay. 794 01:22:13.140 --> 01:22:15.480 jim murez: Now, can we get a presentation from. 795 01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:16.560 jim murez: Is frank here. 796 01:22:19.800 --> 01:22:21.000 Vicki Halliday: he's in the audience. 797 01:22:21.480 --> 01:22:28.050 jim murez: Okay deacon let's see daffodils busy with something, let me see if I can bring up my list. 798 01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:39.750 jim murez: Right mercy, a lot of talk go ahead, frank you got the floor. 799 01:22:42.630 --> 01:22:43.560 jim murez: crank you need to unmute. 800 01:22:43.710 --> 01:22:45.510 frank murphy: All right, can you hear me. 801 01:22:45.660 --> 01:22:47.160 jim murez: yeah welcome, good evening, thank you. 802 01:22:47.340 --> 01:22:48.300 frank murphy: yeah Thank you. 803 01:22:49.380 --> 01:22:51.660 frank murphy: yeah so I wanted to comment. 804 01:22:52.950 --> 01:22:55.920 frank murphy: I was just got notified of this about. 805 01:22:58.740 --> 01:23:07.290 frank murphy: A couple hours ago anyhow i'm just wanting to run over what we've been doing and what we're planning on doing the committee members. 806 01:23:08.490 --> 01:23:26.370 frank murphy: represent a wide variety of range of influences throughout the city or throughout the throughout our area there throughout the Venice area from all different aspects of it, the attendance has been really very meetings all have been pretty well attended. 807 01:23:27.690 --> 01:23:36.660 frank murphy: we've had a whole variety of presenters you know from from Reverend bales to current homeless. 808 01:23:39.660 --> 01:23:46.500 frank murphy: Residents of Venice, we have Aaron darling will be in on August 30. 809 01:23:47.610 --> 01:23:57.960 frank murphy: To talk about homelessness from his perspective, we had Tracy in last meeting on the 26th of July. 810 01:23:59.250 --> 01:24:06.300 frank murphy: Our emotions have been coming through their general their intended to address everyone's needs and. 811 01:24:07.500 --> 01:24:13.890 frank murphy: In line with the mission statement, and I think they were very well placed and very well. 812 01:24:15.180 --> 01:24:18.450 frank murphy: articulated and for the most part, accepted by the board. 813 01:24:19.470 --> 01:24:20.880 frank murphy: Also, our meetings. 814 01:24:22.110 --> 01:24:25.410 frank murphy: You know we've been very, very consistent in our meetings and we've. 815 01:24:27.090 --> 01:24:27.960 frank murphy: gotten a. 816 01:24:29.010 --> 01:24:33.300 frank murphy: fairly good rhythm going with the meetings and. 817 01:24:34.650 --> 01:24:36.870 frank murphy: You know the content of the meetings has been. 818 01:24:38.160 --> 01:24:44.340 frank murphy: You know I think it's something that we should keep going on anyhow that's that's my. 819 01:24:46.140 --> 01:24:48.300 frank murphy: that's my minute and a half spiel. 820 01:24:48.960 --> 01:24:54.750 jim murez: Thank you very much, frank is stick around we want you here when we take our boat. 821 01:24:55.620 --> 01:24:55.890 Okay. 822 01:24:56.940 --> 01:24:58.890 jim murez: let's just see do we have. 823 01:25:00.420 --> 01:25:05.220 jim murez: Ivan are your on on on on the meeting tonight, can I ask you a. 824 01:25:05.220 --> 01:25:06.150 Ivan: question here. 825 01:25:06.480 --> 01:25:13.230 jim murez: When we approve committees normally it's you know the in the in the first half of the term. 826 01:25:14.430 --> 01:25:23.250 jim murez: The Board boats on what add column, are you approve the mission statement i'm assuming the mission statement staying the same because. 827 01:25:23.310 --> 01:25:24.900 jim murez: you're eating it. 828 01:25:25.200 --> 01:25:27.600 jim murez: Do we take public comment on this item. 829 01:25:28.710 --> 01:25:30.600 Ivan: i'm Now you can. 830 01:25:32.220 --> 01:25:32.940 jim murez: will do we need. 831 01:25:33.090 --> 01:25:40.800 Ivan: I don't see why not, I mean motion you public wants to talk about whether or not to renew the committee's but it's kind of you know, be focused on that. 832 01:25:41.220 --> 01:25:42.360 jim murez: Okay, thank you. 833 01:25:42.900 --> 01:25:48.420 jim murez: Okay daffodil do we have any public comment on. 834 01:25:50.550 --> 01:25:51.420 jim murez: Reviewing. 835 01:25:53.010 --> 01:25:53.700 jim murez: This committee. 836 01:25:55.710 --> 01:26:01.200 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, we do have some hands raised some of them were raised before frank started speaking so it's unclear what. 837 01:26:01.590 --> 01:26:02.880 Ivan: Everyone is speaking on. 838 01:26:03.150 --> 01:26:04.590 jim murez: What a lot of all and then. 839 01:26:04.620 --> 01:26:17.520 Daffodil Tyminski: in limbo Keith yeah I think he said so first i'm go developer why don't you go first we've got three go developer surfing public places and sauna Brian and then we will close public comment. 840 01:26:18.240 --> 01:26:18.960 He. 841 01:26:22.590 --> 01:26:27.750 Goat Nigger Developer: tried to quick your agenda on the day and it came up with a forum for air. 842 01:26:28.860 --> 01:26:34.440 Goat Nigger Developer: How did you find it, I had asked spies which I have a few in here. 843 01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:37.440 Goat Nigger Developer: Well, we get to this committee. 844 01:26:38.100 --> 01:26:41.640 Goat Nigger Developer: Yes, not homeless, how much you alone. 845 01:26:41.670 --> 01:26:42.630 The homeless. 846 01:26:44.130 --> 01:26:54.240 Goat Nigger Developer: And I drive all down the streets of awareness and Washington and Lincoln and they see me and they say when you get a chance fella. 847 01:26:54.690 --> 01:26:57.390 Goat Nigger Developer: What do you like the Venice neighborhood Council. 848 01:26:57.420 --> 01:26:58.860 Goat Nigger Developer: for letting me urinate. 849 01:26:59.130 --> 01:27:08.100 Goat Nigger Developer: On this street and letting me live here and I said sure i'll be live tonight so on behalf of everybody who are legally camps. 850 01:27:08.670 --> 01:27:12.180 Goat Nigger Developer: says fires fires burning glass. 851 01:27:12.540 --> 01:27:26.130 Goat Nigger Developer: and comments, well done under $950 We thank you and Mike bohn and for turning runners indoor shithole Keep up the good work and keep up the good work of the committee. 852 01:27:27.810 --> 01:27:28.440 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks good. 853 01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:29.490 Goat Nigger Developer: That was beautiful. 854 01:27:29.910 --> 01:27:31.830 Daffodil Tyminski: Preserving public places go ahead. 855 01:27:37.380 --> 01:27:37.800 Daffodil Tyminski: Robin. 856 01:27:40.260 --> 01:27:52.770 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay yeah in different words then go past that users, I just want to say yeah there's that committee is doing a great job I listened to Tracy parks presentation and the question the answer was. 857 01:27:53.520 --> 01:27:59.970 Preserving Public Places Committee: Really informative really good and so yeah Keep it up, we got committees very worthwhile that's all. 858 01:28:02.700 --> 01:28:03.360 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks father. 859 01:28:04.440 --> 01:28:06.840 Daffodil Tyminski: And last we have Sean o'brien. 860 01:28:08.250 --> 01:28:09.240 Daffodil Tyminski: So i'm go ahead. 861 01:28:10.230 --> 01:28:23.130 Sean Obrien: Oh yeah I support the the committee what I like best about it is it's unbiased they have people who support the homeless, and they have people who are the. 862 01:28:24.900 --> 01:28:29.070 Sean Obrien: owners, so thank you frank and hopefully the Board will keep you that's it. 863 01:28:32.160 --> 01:28:32.700 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Sean. 864 01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:34.950 jim murez: And with that we can all. 865 01:28:37.590 --> 01:28:38.790 jim murez: Do we have, thank you. 866 01:28:39.810 --> 01:28:45.450 jim murez: Do we have any committee comments anybody on the board have anything they want to say or ask. 867 01:28:46.290 --> 01:28:52.950 Daffodil Tyminski: I know hands raised right now anyone want to discuss this at all um. 868 01:28:53.280 --> 01:28:53.790 jim murez: Go ahead. 869 01:28:56.640 --> 01:29:02.340 robertthibodeau: i'd like to say, thanks to frank, for all the work he puts in he doesn't need to do all this, and he puts a lot of time and thanks frank. 870 01:29:03.840 --> 01:29:05.460 jim murez: anyone else. 871 01:29:07.230 --> 01:29:08.550 jim murez: Elizabeth go ahead, please. 872 01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:18.240 Elizabeth c: hey and I just love to see if there could be a mandate to keep it unbiased so that because it's an important committee. 873 01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:32.430 Elizabeth c: But you don't want it to swing one way or the other it's kind of like Fianna gentrification committee and there's just architects and developers on there, so I don't know, is there a way to mandate, how the seats are filled that's i'll leave it at that. 874 01:29:32.940 --> 01:29:38.820 jim murez: Well, so we have a previously approved mission statement, we would have to. 875 01:29:39.390 --> 01:29:40.740 jim murez: Ask the committee to. 876 01:29:40.830 --> 01:29:48.900 jim murez: recreate a new mission statement resubmit that to add calm and then the board would have to vote on that, so this is really only approving the previous mission statement. 877 01:29:50.130 --> 01:29:53.070 jim murez: Not, and so the answer to your question is no not at this point in time. 878 01:29:55.380 --> 01:29:58.410 Elizabeth c: Is it worth looking at to keep it unbiased. 879 01:30:00.090 --> 01:30:09.060 jim murez: I had sure that the people of the committee would be more than happy to talk to you about it, and if they wanted to submit a new mission statement or revise mission statement, they could do that. 880 01:30:13.830 --> 01:30:17.010 jim murez: Okay need to lower your hand, thank you, Jim Ross go ahead, please. 881 01:30:17.760 --> 01:30:25.200 Jim Robb: I would just like to follow with the weather Elizabeth said, you know I think there needs to be diversity, I don't know whether it be a question about that so. 882 01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:29.850 Jim Robb: I think it's changing the mission statement would probably be a great idea. 883 01:30:30.300 --> 01:30:30.930 Thank you. 884 01:30:32.820 --> 01:30:35.010 jim murez: Okay anyone else vicki you have your hand up. 885 01:30:36.060 --> 01:30:40.530 Vicki Halliday: um yeah I mean the committee is about as diverse as you can get. 886 01:30:42.210 --> 01:30:48.120 Vicki Halliday: At this point so i'm not sure what the complaint is that it's it's even. 887 01:30:48.180 --> 01:30:53.400 Elizabeth c: in so many ways to be clear that wasn't a complaint that you want to set a foundation for the. 888 01:30:53.400 --> 01:30:56.400 Elizabeth c: Future so that you you're always an unbiased can you. 889 01:30:57.450 --> 01:31:05.040 Vicki Halliday: can't you can't force a committee chairman to do that committees are made up of people that they. 890 01:31:05.130 --> 01:31:18.300 Vicki Halliday: They appoint, and I mean I hear what you're saying, but i'm not quite sure what came up at this particular point, because we are very diverse and very. 891 01:31:18.450 --> 01:31:27.090 Vicki Halliday: And we try and be very unbiased so you know if we wanted that it should be for every single committee on the dnc then yeah. 892 01:31:27.150 --> 01:31:31.470 Ivan: Exactly Jim can I jump in here for a minute correct and clear up quickly. 893 01:31:31.980 --> 01:31:34.290 jim murez: Okay, only if it's quick because i'm ready to take a. 894 01:31:34.290 --> 01:31:47.130 Ivan: Quick it's in the bylaws the beginning of the bylaws which i'll rewrite everything that we try and all of our endeavors to be as diverse as possible to mirror the. 895 01:31:48.030 --> 01:31:55.470 Ivan: The makeup of our Community so that's the overriding thing you don't have to specifically put that in every committee Michigan state. 896 01:31:57.810 --> 01:31:58.170 Ivan: Okay. 897 01:31:58.890 --> 01:31:59.400 Jim Robb: Thank you. 898 01:31:59.550 --> 01:32:07.020 jim murez: hey vicki can you pick your hand down let's take a vote on this now, I see no other new hands does anybody want to stain. 899 01:32:08.460 --> 01:32:11.130 jim murez: Does anybody want to vote no. 900 01:32:13.050 --> 01:32:16.560 jim murez: Then hearing though extensions and no nose. 901 01:32:18.060 --> 01:32:20.220 jim murez: Filling everyone as a. 902 01:32:22.560 --> 01:32:22.950 Ivan: Okay. 903 01:32:23.820 --> 01:32:27.240 Ivan: one more piece of this which we didn't talk about. 904 01:32:28.620 --> 01:32:34.260 Ivan: We can assume that the Chair of the Committee is going to stay the same. 905 01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:42.060 Ivan: With the renewal, but if you want to after the committee's are re re up, you can change the Chair. 906 01:32:43.770 --> 01:32:46.980 Ivan: For the next you know part of their existence so that's up to you. 907 01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:52.110 jim murez: Do I do that now, I think I have 30 days to do that if it's the same as. 908 01:32:53.730 --> 01:32:56.880 Ivan: Well, you don't want to have a wooden chair sitting here so. 909 01:32:57.480 --> 01:32:57.810 yeah. 910 01:32:58.980 --> 01:33:03.900 jim murez: Why would need to be able to do a nice thing than their travel stay the same, why don't we leave it that. 911 01:33:05.250 --> 01:33:07.920 jim murez: Well i'll talk to him after the meeting offline. 912 01:33:08.100 --> 01:33:09.210 jim murez: That we don't know that. 913 01:33:09.780 --> 01:33:12.540 jim murez: I want to I would make sure that they want to do it, I don't. 914 01:33:13.200 --> 01:33:15.960 Ivan: Okay, I just want to make sure you address that some point. 915 01:33:18.210 --> 01:33:22.320 jim murez: We will now we want to renew the resiliency committee. 916 01:33:22.920 --> 01:33:24.120 jim murez: And I get a maker place. 917 01:33:25.200 --> 01:33:27.210 Daffodil Tyminski: it's daffodil i'll make the motion to me now. 918 01:33:27.900 --> 01:33:29.550 jim murez: Thank you def adele can I get a. 919 01:33:29.550 --> 01:33:30.450 Vicki Halliday: single sentence. 920 01:33:31.380 --> 01:33:32.790 Vicki Halliday: Lisa Thank you. 921 01:33:33.060 --> 01:33:33.690 jim murez: Thank you vicki. 922 01:33:38.580 --> 01:33:39.600 jim murez: Public comment but. 923 01:33:40.950 --> 01:33:46.170 Daffodil Tyminski: We do, I think, Tim we a Keith is here on behalf of the Committee, and then we have. 924 01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:48.930 Daffodil Tyminski: goat developer and Helen fallon. 925 01:33:52.800 --> 01:33:54.330 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'm sorry we're getting a lot of. 926 01:33:55.350 --> 01:33:56.580 Daffodil Tyminski: feedback from someone. 927 01:33:58.320 --> 01:34:04.980 Daffodil Tyminski: So we have Keith Harrison go developer hell and fallon and Eric Moore and with that will close public comments so Keith why don't you go ahead first. 928 01:34:07.710 --> 01:34:13.260 Keith Harrison: Yes, i'm just doing this as I should I be doing this as part of my presentation. 929 01:34:13.530 --> 01:34:14.850 Keith Harrison: Or do I need to hold back. 930 01:34:15.210 --> 01:34:19.800 jim murez: This is your presentation everybody needs to hear about you know. 931 01:34:19.830 --> 01:34:24.510 jim murez: Yes, what you have done what you plan to do and where you're going in the future. 932 01:34:24.930 --> 01:34:26.430 Keith Harrison: Thank you, yes. 933 01:34:27.630 --> 01:34:46.500 Keith Harrison: In keeping with our unchanged mission statement and strategic plan we put on a series of training events in cooperation with emergency management department, as well as the neighborhood training program team program, we have also. 934 01:34:47.550 --> 01:34:52.020 Keith Harrison: been putting out information at public events such as the Venice. 935 01:34:53.340 --> 01:34:56.130 Keith Harrison: Sign lighting and. 936 01:34:57.210 --> 01:35:09.030 Keith Harrison: If you have subscribed to our Twitter page we just put out the independent service operator flux of weird event, so we are giving information out regularly to the Community, we are working with the. 937 01:35:10.110 --> 01:35:22.020 Keith Harrison: outreach committee to establish a emergency ice cream social to recruit people to the committee and have people discuss what they want to see in Venice to make Dennis Dennis. 938 01:35:23.040 --> 01:35:29.640 Keith Harrison: Disaster resilient and we're looking toward the end of this month or into September to achieve that. 939 01:35:30.870 --> 01:35:35.310 Keith Harrison: And so we are an active committee we're looking to get more people involved. 940 01:35:35.730 --> 01:35:39.510 Keith Harrison: And also, I am participating as part of the western regional. 941 01:35:40.830 --> 01:35:51.300 Keith Harrison: area Council on their safety and emergency preparedness committee representing the dnc so that's where we're at i'm open for any questions. 942 01:35:52.200 --> 01:35:56.520 jim murez: Thank you yeah I wanted to mention that to Keith is now our our rack representative. 943 01:35:57.630 --> 01:35:59.550 jim murez: For for emergency preparedness. 944 01:36:01.350 --> 01:36:04.320 jim murez: And let me know when that ice cream events happening i'm looking forward to it. 945 01:36:05.370 --> 01:36:05.940 Keith Harrison: Yes. 946 01:36:06.270 --> 01:36:09.300 jim murez: So do we have public comment depth do. 947 01:36:11.850 --> 01:36:18.990 Daffodil Tyminski: We do we do i'm sorry there's everyone's jumping around go developer go ahead. 948 01:36:24.210 --> 01:36:26.010 Goat Nigger Developer: Oh boy I scoring. 949 01:36:27.420 --> 01:36:34.830 Goat Nigger Developer: We just use it to blackmail you as well, it works if you got my ice cream, I will go. 950 01:36:35.940 --> 01:36:41.610 Goat Nigger Developer: So I was against this until I heard about this, but I might not be able to make it so. 951 01:36:42.120 --> 01:36:54.720 Goat Nigger Developer: If you can give James my $50 gift card to 31 flavors I would mostly appreciate it, and I will pick it up and continue to result and support my resiliency committee. 952 01:36:56.040 --> 01:36:56.490 Goat Nigger Developer: So. 953 01:36:58.470 --> 01:37:03.720 Goat Nigger Developer: As you can see that chair knows how to do business with the goat puppet developed. 954 01:37:06.330 --> 01:37:11.040 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, go puppet Thank you so much i'm Helen fallon go ahead. 955 01:37:14.730 --> 01:37:30.750 Helen Fallon: point out that, by definition, and air hoc us to be a temporary committee at some of these committees that are up for renewals actually correspond directly standing committees in the city council and this really should be changed. 956 01:37:32.280 --> 01:37:40.020 Helen Fallon: was very deserves to be a standing committee at the very least, and some of the other ones, probably fall in the same category. 957 01:37:40.470 --> 01:37:52.740 Helen Fallon: Standard awful lot of time because the gigantic time waster to treat these as ad hoc committees and have to renew their mission and and start all over again and makes no sense whatsoever thanks. 958 01:37:55.890 --> 01:37:59.130 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Helen i'm Erica more go ahead. 959 01:38:02.370 --> 01:38:10.410 Erica Moore: hi there actually, thank you for that suggestion Helen I think that's an excellent idea, because this particular committee which I happen to be a member of. 960 01:38:10.830 --> 01:38:20.220 Erica Moore: is really important, we don't have a huge base right now, and we really do need more people to participate with us, but it's so important emergency preparedness, I mean. 961 01:38:20.670 --> 01:38:26.460 Erica Moore: we're in a tsunami zone, hopefully we'll never see one, but we should all be prepared we're a Community based. 962 01:38:27.150 --> 01:38:37.140 Erica Moore: group the Venice neighborhood Council and our Community, and we need to outreach our Community, to make sure everybody's connected and safe during these events, if there is an event i'm. 963 01:38:37.740 --> 01:38:48.030 Erica Moore: A disaster submit obviously what I wanted to say is the ice cream social the date we were looking at i'm not sure if this is confirmed, but just to give you guys a save the date is that Sunday the 28th. 964 01:38:48.390 --> 01:38:55.470 Erica Moore: It would be between 11 and one at Mr Park, but again just do it doesn't save the date because I think some details had to be. 965 01:38:56.910 --> 01:39:02.490 Erica Moore: confirmed from the outreach committee so hopefully we will see you there, and you can bring kids. 966 01:39:03.240 --> 01:39:03.780 Erica Moore: Thank you. 967 01:39:05.220 --> 01:39:06.030 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Erica. 968 01:39:07.200 --> 01:39:10.740 Daffodil Tyminski: And last public comment Sean o'brien go ahead. 969 01:39:12.060 --> 01:39:20.820 Sean Obrien: Oh yeah I just want to go on record, I don't want to keep chiming in on everyone I support all these committees that's it, I hope you all, thank you. 970 01:39:21.630 --> 01:39:24.960 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Sean okay let's close public comment and. 971 01:39:26.760 --> 01:39:27.840 Daffodil Tyminski: Jim why don't we take it to board. 972 01:39:27.840 --> 01:39:28.560 jim murez: We have any. 973 01:39:29.790 --> 01:39:31.260 jim murez: yeah do we have any work comment. 974 01:39:31.890 --> 01:39:37.290 Daffodil Tyminski: At the moment we have no hands raised, if anyone on the board wants to make a comment, this is the time to raise your hand. 975 01:39:38.400 --> 01:39:40.110 jim murez: Does anybody want to. 976 01:39:42.900 --> 01:39:46.440 jim murez: recuse themselves or to abstain. 977 01:39:46.800 --> 01:39:48.960 Daffodil Tyminski: I see no hands. 978 01:39:49.050 --> 01:39:50.040 jim murez: No votes. 979 01:39:50.940 --> 01:39:53.040 jim murez: So let's vote yes on all of these. 980 01:39:58.410 --> 01:39:58.740 jim murez: Was. 981 01:40:01.050 --> 01:40:03.180 Jim Robb: saying thank you that's a great Community Thank you. 982 01:40:03.900 --> 01:40:05.040 jim murez: Okay Jeff Thank you. 983 01:40:05.070 --> 01:40:05.700 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah great. 984 01:40:07.500 --> 01:40:12.420 jim murez: The next one parking in transportation somebody want to make the motion. 985 01:40:13.980 --> 01:40:15.120 Vicki Halliday: i'll make it Jim vicki. 986 01:40:15.480 --> 01:40:16.440 jim murez: Thank you vicki. 987 01:40:16.800 --> 01:40:18.000 Alley Bean: i'll second that alley. 988 01:40:18.900 --> 01:40:19.770 jim murez: Thank you ellie. 989 01:40:23.520 --> 01:40:27.330 jim murez: i'm Robert can you make a two minute brief presentation. 990 01:40:28.710 --> 01:40:39.840 robertthibodeau: Yes, so we work on transportation related issues, most of our issues are things that the public brings to us. 991 01:40:42.210 --> 01:40:46.320 robertthibodeau: Recent ones that are memorable we're weighing in. 992 01:40:47.640 --> 01:40:49.410 robertthibodeau: And we're still working with. 993 01:40:51.150 --> 01:40:58.560 robertthibodeau: cal caltrans to try and beautify their improvements on Lincoln boulevard. 994 01:40:59.970 --> 01:41:00.930 robertthibodeau: we're trying to keep. 995 01:41:01.380 --> 01:41:02.760 robertthibodeau: as best we can. 996 01:41:03.810 --> 01:41:06.480 robertthibodeau: The Community and the rest of the Board informed. 997 01:41:08.010 --> 01:41:09.090 robertthibodeau: When there are. 998 01:41:10.380 --> 01:41:14.220 robertthibodeau: proposed changes we don't have a lot of control over this stuff admittedly. 999 01:41:15.270 --> 01:41:19.830 robertthibodeau: A lot of this stuff gets handled, you know by by the powers that be, I believe. 1000 01:41:22.620 --> 01:41:30.270 robertthibodeau: What surname the woman who attended our meeting last time and was on the meeting tonight brought up the. 1001 01:41:31.920 --> 01:41:36.360 robertthibodeau: sheet, the road, the extension of the road diet to Lincoln boulevard. 1002 01:41:37.920 --> 01:41:46.440 robertthibodeau: And we're certainly be we just found out about that last week ourselves so we'll certainly be taking that up on a future future meeting. 1003 01:41:48.090 --> 01:41:55.140 robertthibodeau: I can't think of too many other things we've got a couple items up tonight you always have a couple of items up and. 1004 01:41:56.190 --> 01:42:01.080 robertthibodeau: You know that's the British representative representing the public thanks. 1005 01:42:01.350 --> 01:42:06.810 jim murez: Thank you, Robert um if you don't do we have public comment on the side. 1006 01:42:07.530 --> 01:42:09.300 Daffodil Tyminski: We do we have. 1007 01:42:10.830 --> 01:42:11.970 Daffodil Tyminski: Two hands raised. 1008 01:42:13.500 --> 01:42:22.050 Daffodil Tyminski: goat developer and preserving public places and what an Eric Moore and with that will close public comment i'm go developer go ahead. 1009 01:42:23.820 --> 01:42:29.550 Goat Nigger Developer: Yes, it's such an important issue let's make it a permanent committee. 1010 01:42:30.990 --> 01:42:32.640 Goat Nigger Developer: And I attended today. 1011 01:42:33.090 --> 01:42:39.570 Goat Nigger Developer: The transportation committee chaired by your you and God my global responded. 1012 01:42:41.250 --> 01:42:45.210 Goat Nigger Developer: And after I was done speaking, you know what he said, you know what. 1013 01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:55.920 Goat Nigger Developer: He said that the reason he didn't run for another term was in part because of the language and the fill that comes out of my mouth. 1014 01:42:57.420 --> 01:43:04.590 Goat Nigger Developer: So, in other words, I get rid of your number one problem or because of transportation. 1015 01:43:05.610 --> 01:43:08.130 Goat Nigger Developer: As i've been trying to set up my nonprofit. 1016 01:43:09.570 --> 01:43:10.950 Goat Nigger Developer: And I hope that I get it. 1017 01:43:11.250 --> 01:43:18.000 Goat Nigger Developer: But the Secretary of State is having a problem with the name of it but Mike knows what the name of it is. 1018 01:43:19.290 --> 01:43:24.180 Goat Nigger Developer: So, yes let's make it a permanent committee because it's too important not to. 1019 01:43:26.910 --> 01:43:27.480 jim murez: Thank you. 1020 01:43:28.110 --> 01:43:28.710 jim murez: Thank you. 1021 01:43:29.910 --> 01:43:31.260 Daffodil Tyminski: Robin go ahead. 1022 01:43:33.690 --> 01:43:35.190 Preserving Public Places Committee: hi yeah sure i'll just chime in. 1023 01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:40.200 Daffodil Tyminski: Robin. 1024 01:43:44.790 --> 01:43:45.810 Preserving Public Places Committee: I thought I was unmuted. 1025 01:43:46.470 --> 01:43:59.010 Preserving Public Places Committee: Should just want to say yet you're doing great chef Robert We need your committee, we need you to keep doing it, and can you follow up in my recent email, we need Dell avenue repaid and court D, they are a mess. 1026 01:43:59.700 --> 01:44:04.740 Preserving Public Places Committee: And nobody else can do it, but you, but I know you can't know yep that's all. 1027 01:44:06.570 --> 01:44:07.140 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Robin. 1028 01:44:08.940 --> 01:44:12.630 Daffodil Tyminski: And last but not least, Erica more go ahead. 1029 01:44:13.830 --> 01:44:24.870 Erica Moore: hey there, this is again i'm agreeing with that it should be a permanent committee it's a so important in advance, we have so many issues with our roads and transportation and parking. 1030 01:44:25.230 --> 01:44:31.770 Erica Moore: And i've been able to have the privilege of attending some of those meetings, and I really find it to be important and. 1031 01:44:32.310 --> 01:44:46.980 Erica Moore: Again, this is another one of those meetings that could definitely use more people attending because we need to hear everybody's voices and I do appreciate that they give a lot of time to speak and that they do listen carefully I do appreciate that Robert Thank you so much. 1032 01:44:50.160 --> 01:44:52.500 jim murez: Okay, with that, I think, definitely. 1033 01:44:54.120 --> 01:44:56.970 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, public comment is closed. 1034 01:44:58.170 --> 01:44:59.460 jim murez: Thank you um. 1035 01:45:00.630 --> 01:45:03.270 jim murez: Now let's go back to committee comment or comment. 1036 01:45:04.380 --> 01:45:05.820 jim murez: Jim rob you have your hand up. 1037 01:45:06.660 --> 01:45:07.200 Yes. 1038 01:45:09.600 --> 01:45:20.340 Jim Robb: hey Robert, thank you for doing such good work, I appreciate, I think this committee is a does a great job I would hope that we could do more committee meetings together. 1039 01:45:20.940 --> 01:45:32.610 Jim Robb: Because there's a lot of issues that we, but up to that are causing lots of problems, so I don't know if we can do that more often or not, but if you are a permanent committee, maybe. 1040 01:45:33.090 --> 01:45:46.350 Jim Robb: That would happen, but you're welcome to join my committee anytime I know there's a lot of stuff going on in the that kind of fits both of our scooters included which my wife ran over one pop my tire in my car and. 1041 01:45:47.580 --> 01:45:49.830 Jim Robb: We need to figure that out, thank you, Robert. 1042 01:45:50.850 --> 01:45:53.850 jim murez: that's easy just don't drive over skaters dad we go. 1043 01:45:54.900 --> 01:45:56.040 jim murez: ahead, please give your head I. 1044 01:45:56.040 --> 01:46:07.200 Daffodil Tyminski: just wanted to echo the comments to thank Robert and to say that this is one of the most productive committees that we have it's on point all the time it's up to the minute with everything that's going on and as navigated a bunch of. 1045 01:46:08.790 --> 01:46:15.270 Daffodil Tyminski: Public Works projects and other things that really immediately affect us every day in terms of just even being able to walk the streets. 1046 01:46:15.900 --> 01:46:30.450 Daffodil Tyminski: And it would be great if this were a permanent committee, but as those of us know that have tried to talk about this it's way more difficult than it seems so I completely support renewing this as an ad hoc committee, even though it has been a committee before. 1047 01:46:32.640 --> 01:46:33.240 jim murez: anymore. 1048 01:46:34.350 --> 01:46:35.340 jim murez: Committee comments. 1049 01:46:35.940 --> 01:46:39.420 Vicki Halliday: are just a quick Thank you to the committee for me. 1050 01:46:40.050 --> 01:46:40.890 Vicki Halliday: Okay, can. 1051 01:46:42.240 --> 01:46:43.020 jim murez: You have your hand up. 1052 01:46:43.290 --> 01:46:44.220 Alley Bean: Just to thank you. 1053 01:46:44.640 --> 01:46:51.810 jim murez: Okay, you know, everybody, we can do the Thank you let's boat with the S boats, if we really appreciate it let's keep the meet the meeting going. 1054 01:46:53.430 --> 01:46:54.840 jim murez: i'm going to go ahead and call for a vote. 1055 01:46:55.860 --> 01:47:00.720 jim murez: Does anybody want to abstain does anybody want to vote no. 1056 01:47:02.100 --> 01:47:03.000 Jason Sugars: i'll abstain. 1057 01:47:03.720 --> 01:47:04.380 jim murez: Who was at. 1058 01:47:05.370 --> 01:47:06.120 Jason Sugars: Jason sugars. 1059 01:47:06.690 --> 01:47:07.650 jim murez: Okay Jason. 1060 01:47:08.880 --> 01:47:15.690 Jason Sugars: i'm going to probably have to abstain on anything that goes Negar developer comments on for the rest of the evening i'm not able. 1061 01:47:17.040 --> 01:47:20.430 jim murez: Well he's the general public, you can abstain, if you want, but. 1062 01:47:21.300 --> 01:47:21.810 Jason Sugars: Just the. 1063 01:47:23.760 --> 01:47:27.960 Jim Robb: question of that real quick, is there any way we can change his name on the zoo. 1064 01:47:28.980 --> 01:47:37.170 Soledad Ursua: You know what what you brought up at one of our last meetings we had the same issue, and what we told him was that you have to change your name or you cannot be in the meeting and. 1065 01:47:38.910 --> 01:47:41.850 Jim Robb: that's horrible and he needs to be off this meeting God. 1066 01:47:41.850 --> 01:47:42.180 OK. 1067 01:47:43.230 --> 01:47:44.880 melissa diner : Change the meeting or, though. 1068 01:47:44.970 --> 01:47:48.150 Jim Robb: He needs to be on that you use the word that none of us. 1069 01:47:48.570 --> 01:47:49.830 jim murez: should be. 1070 01:47:50.100 --> 01:47:50.970 jim murez: timeout everybody. 1071 01:47:51.420 --> 01:47:52.830 jim murez: ready, are you still on the meeting. 1072 01:47:54.570 --> 01:47:55.950 jim murez: Capital is Freddie still here. 1073 01:47:56.100 --> 01:47:57.450 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, Freddie is here. 1074 01:47:57.750 --> 01:47:58.230 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I am here. 1075 01:47:59.550 --> 01:48:04.380 jim murez: Are we allowed to to ask him to change his his name. 1076 01:48:05.070 --> 01:48:21.180 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): You can ask him as to whether he would or will not again, however, the individual identifies themselves if the name is offensive, you can you can do what what daffodil are Melissa was doing by just saying you know. 1077 01:48:22.410 --> 01:48:33.510 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): The first part of the name that was identified as an individual it, though, the reason why that ability is available is that, if it were in person. 1078 01:48:34.290 --> 01:48:45.810 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): People could call themselves, you know Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck when you're doing speaker cards, for you know for anonymity reasons on that end on whether the. 1079 01:48:46.350 --> 01:48:53.190 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): The name is vulgar and I, you know that that's still is still protected under the first amendment, however frustrating, it might be. 1080 01:48:53.670 --> 01:48:54.960 jim murez: Thank you, I appreciate that. 1081 01:48:55.020 --> 01:48:56.550 Jim Robb: I don't think that word is that. 1082 01:48:56.880 --> 01:49:00.180 Jim Robb: He needs to his screen names what screen names which. 1083 01:49:01.170 --> 01:49:03.570 jim murez: Time out Okay, give me a minute. 1084 01:49:05.850 --> 01:49:11.010 jim murez: goes puppet, would you please change your name so it's not offensive to people of our of our media. 1085 01:49:13.020 --> 01:49:14.100 jim murez: definitely see unmuted. 1086 01:49:16.560 --> 01:49:20.700 Daffodil Tyminski: um he is now unmuted. 1087 01:49:23.130 --> 01:49:24.510 jim murez: Wayne do you mind, please. 1088 01:49:30.420 --> 01:49:33.960 jim murez: just say yes, I would be happy to change it for you. 1089 01:49:34.950 --> 01:49:37.710 melissa diner : Just actions speak louder than words change. 1090 01:49:39.900 --> 01:49:44.130 jim murez: ask them nicely okay definitely go ahead and mute him again um. 1091 01:49:46.530 --> 01:49:51.780 jim murez: Well, we call out his name, we just don't call it out the way that it's written just use part of it. 1092 01:49:54.090 --> 01:49:55.620 jim murez: I think that's all we can do at this point. 1093 01:49:59.160 --> 01:50:00.030 Jim Robb: Okay i'm gonna have to. 1094 01:50:00.180 --> 01:50:01.890 Elizabeth c: Leave precedent before. 1095 01:50:01.890 --> 01:50:02.430 Starting. 1096 01:50:03.780 --> 01:50:03.990 Jim Robb: Any. 1097 01:50:04.320 --> 01:50:04.980 jim murez: business. 1098 01:50:05.820 --> 01:50:06.840 Jim Robb: i'm happy to see. 1099 01:50:06.930 --> 01:50:07.950 Everybody just stops. 1100 01:50:09.510 --> 01:50:15.960 jim murez: Okay, if somebody wants to raise their hand, we need to conduct this meeting Jay you have your hand up go. 1101 01:50:15.960 --> 01:50:20.280 Jay Handal: ahead, thank you, thank you, I just want to say that we can think Zuma dog. 1102 01:50:21.570 --> 01:50:22.710 Jay Handal: For his. 1103 01:50:25.050 --> 01:50:41.520 Jay Handal: going to court and winning and that allows Wayne and everybody else, the right to either not identify themselves identify themselves as a puppet or use the N word or come dressed up as a KKK Member. 1104 01:50:42.900 --> 01:50:58.380 Jay Handal: they're allowed there under the first amendment rights there, there are two minutes or one minute, or whatever is designated on the agenda for public comment, while many may feel it's very offensive, unfortunately. 1105 01:50:59.760 --> 01:51:10.500 Jay Handal: This is the way it works, you know, this is what the city attorney has determined and I guess, we should all be happy that we live in a free country. 1106 01:51:11.100 --> 01:51:21.360 Jay Handal: That allows people to do damn near anything they want that's what people fought for that's what people died for unfortunately sometimes it comes back to bite us in the butt. 1107 01:51:22.230 --> 01:51:32.430 Jay Handal: So in this case Wayne is you know we've seen him at many neighborhood Councils and many committee Member meetings and many Commission meetings and. 1108 01:51:32.790 --> 01:51:41.160 Jay Handal: it's entertaining sometimes and sometimes it's offensive to some, but he has every legal right to do it, we can sit here we can save we hate it. 1109 01:51:41.520 --> 01:51:51.960 Jay Handal: And we're not going to vote on anything or we're going to recuse ourselves and it's not going to change anything, all we're doing is feeding into it by continuing to banter around what he's doing. 1110 01:51:52.530 --> 01:51:58.530 Jay Handal: So, quite frankly, I would ask that we just move forward and let's conduct our business and thank wing. 1111 01:51:58.770 --> 01:52:00.360 Jay Handal: me can being a participant. 1112 01:52:02.010 --> 01:52:03.180 jim murez: Thank you Jay oh. 1113 01:52:03.930 --> 01:52:10.890 Ivan: Jim you're in the middle of a vote and we cut off on a sidetrack here, so please go back to the vote. 1114 01:52:12.120 --> 01:52:12.990 Ivan: start again. 1115 01:52:13.470 --> 01:52:15.720 jim murez: you're interrupting we're not in the middle of a boat. 1116 01:52:16.410 --> 01:52:17.640 Ivan: You were chasing. 1117 01:52:18.240 --> 01:52:19.260 Ivan: You want to vote. 1118 01:52:20.160 --> 01:52:21.900 jim murez: Item number 20. 1119 01:52:23.250 --> 01:52:26.370 jim murez: Just starting it the vote is already completed. 1120 01:52:27.330 --> 01:52:29.040 jim murez: Okay, thank you. 1121 01:52:31.260 --> 01:52:37.170 jim murez: I need a maker of the motion to renew the ad hoc committee for the harbor committee. 1122 01:52:40.470 --> 01:52:42.090 Daffodil Tyminski: daffodil I will make the motion. 1123 01:52:42.780 --> 01:52:44.400 jim murez: seconded will have your hand up. 1124 01:52:45.720 --> 01:52:46.590 jim murez: Do I have a second. 1125 01:52:47.010 --> 01:52:49.110 jim murez: i'll Second, it was an. 1126 01:52:49.410 --> 01:52:50.940 jim murez: alley Thank you Ellen. 1127 01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:57.960 jim murez: i'm Isabelle here or Sarah Sarah here. 1128 01:53:01.170 --> 01:53:05.760 Daffodil Tyminski: So this is daffodil i'm Sarah was here. 1129 01:53:06.540 --> 01:53:09.270 Daffodil Tyminski: Noel and um but. 1130 01:53:10.740 --> 01:53:13.170 Daffodil Tyminski: I do not think there oh Sarah is here sorry Sarah. 1131 01:53:14.400 --> 01:53:17.640 Daffodil Tyminski: Let me let her go first and she can give a presentation and then. 1132 01:53:18.900 --> 01:53:21.300 Daffodil Tyminski: We have Erica more and go developer. 1133 01:53:23.070 --> 01:53:24.420 Daffodil Tyminski: Sarah go ahead. 1134 01:53:28.050 --> 01:53:29.490 Sarah Wauters: hi all can you hear me okay. 1135 01:53:29.580 --> 01:53:30.300 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, yeah. 1136 01:53:32.010 --> 01:53:36.900 Sarah Wauters: Great i'll try to make it as brief as possible, thanks looks like you have a very full agenda. 1137 01:53:38.430 --> 01:53:40.080 Sarah Wauters: We have been. 1138 01:53:41.520 --> 01:53:52.620 Sarah Wauters: Meeting on the subject of the urban forest and supporting the trees and our biodiversity in the Venice neighborhood we've planted I think. 1139 01:53:53.010 --> 01:54:09.630 Sarah Wauters: In some of our reports we've already reported this but we've planted close to 350 trees throughout the area, some of them are in the parkway and others are in, for instance for library lawn and some of them are in the lungs of. 1140 01:54:11.010 --> 01:54:22.800 Sarah Wauters: affordable housing developments and we continue to support those trees by watering mulching trimming and we have a pretty robust volunteer force that comes out to support that effort. 1141 01:54:23.280 --> 01:54:40.320 Sarah Wauters: And then we also meet on matters of beautification actually we cooperated, together with the transportation committee with regard to passing or trying to get past the motion to beautify Venice boulevard and we are going to continue to work on that. 1142 01:54:42.060 --> 01:54:45.600 Sarah Wauters: And we have interacted consistently with the city. 1143 01:54:47.430 --> 01:54:52.710 Sarah Wauters: With regard to policy and also their citizen forestry advisory committee to. 1144 01:54:53.850 --> 01:55:02.160 Sarah Wauters: tell them what we're finding with regard to how the public interacts with trees and how the public is willing to support them so. 1145 01:55:03.930 --> 01:55:18.390 Sarah Wauters: We have six members of the committee and we do have presentations from tree specialists, as well as city employees that will come and tell us about what their efforts are surrounding the urban forest. 1146 01:55:18.960 --> 01:55:29.940 Sarah Wauters: And we have been finding that because of the shift and whether different trees are going to be planted in the future and will be surviving our sort of drought. 1147 01:55:30.480 --> 01:55:43.170 Sarah Wauters: conditions and actually as some of you probably have noticed, we have a moisture and cooler summer than we have experienced in the past, because of the heat on the in the inland and that does affect. 1148 01:55:43.860 --> 01:55:48.900 Sarah Wauters: How we plant and what type of species, we plant, so I want to thank everyone who supported the committee in the. 1149 01:55:48.900 --> 01:55:54.390 Sarah Wauters: Past and has attended our meetings, if I can answer any questions i'd be happy to do so. 1150 01:55:55.260 --> 01:55:58.740 jim murez: I do, Sarah do we have any public comment. 1151 01:55:59.580 --> 01:56:00.600 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, we do Jim. 1152 01:56:01.620 --> 01:56:10.260 Daffodil Tyminski: So we have goat developer Eric Moore and preserving public places, which is Robin and with that will close public comments so good developer why don't you go first. 1153 01:56:18.870 --> 01:56:19.650 Daffodil Tyminski: Go developer. 1154 01:56:22.290 --> 01:56:24.480 Goat Nigger Developer: I apologize, the human was interrupting. 1155 01:56:25.980 --> 01:56:45.090 Goat Nigger Developer: So we have a way to do two things, help the homeless and the tree we're gonna have a homeless urinate on the trees and that way we can give them water and nutrients, while at the same time, eliminating streets and sidewalks and sore deprecation. 1156 01:56:47.190 --> 01:56:50.340 Goat Nigger Developer: are portraying world cup of water. 1157 01:56:50.700 --> 01:56:55.050 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sorry go developer, do you want to speak to whether or not this committee should exist. 1158 01:56:55.680 --> 01:57:01.380 Goat Nigger Developer: Oh, if I can get a chance human what to keep interrupting me like that other person. 1159 01:57:02.490 --> 01:57:09.930 Goat Nigger Developer: Oh, I don't want a special ad hoc committee attached to this, the hard on getting water. 1160 01:57:10.230 --> 01:57:14.730 Goat Nigger Developer: To water, the trees that's the problem what you're not doing. 1161 01:57:15.450 --> 01:57:16.830 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you go developer. 1162 01:57:18.240 --> 01:57:20.340 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Erica more go ahead. 1163 01:57:22.500 --> 01:57:29.970 Erica Moore: I again another excellent committee their collaborative they welcome the public on a regular. 1164 01:57:29.970 --> 01:57:35.700 Erica Moore: basis, like weekly basis, you can meet up with them go through the neighborhood they they have. 1165 01:57:36.330 --> 01:57:53.070 Erica Moore: Extremely educational I mean you might not be aware that the reason we've got bluebirds back in Dennis is was connected to that committee there's a lot of amazing things that can come about, for us, we do need to work with on our green spaces and I love the fact that they're very. 1166 01:57:54.300 --> 01:58:08.250 Erica Moore: they're very professional I mean Isabel answer are both amazing I really encourage everybody to attend one of these events that they have which are regular and I think this is this committee as a no brainer gotta keep it Thank you. 1167 01:58:11.790 --> 01:58:12.570 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Erica. 1168 01:58:13.650 --> 01:58:16.980 Daffodil Tyminski: Last, we have Robin go ahead, Robin Maris. 1169 01:58:18.270 --> 01:58:19.260 Preserving Public Places Committee: I don't want to waste your time. 1170 01:58:19.500 --> 01:58:20.220 Daffodil Tyminski: you're awesome. 1171 01:58:23.040 --> 01:58:24.090 Daffodil Tyminski: We can't hear you Robin. 1172 01:58:27.150 --> 01:58:29.130 Preserving Public Places Committee: I just don't want to waste your time, but I want. 1173 01:58:34.170 --> 01:58:36.090 Daffodil Tyminski: That sounds like an endorsement of the committee. 1174 01:58:37.260 --> 01:58:37.740 right there. 1175 01:58:41.400 --> 01:58:43.680 Daffodil Tyminski: Maybe it's me I can't hear you okay. 1176 01:58:44.010 --> 01:58:47.010 jim murez: So they were awesome and then what and then hung up okay. 1177 01:58:47.580 --> 01:58:53.760 Preserving Public Places Committee: Oh i'm sorry I wasn't here yeah i'm saying that they're often than I didn't want to waste your time alright. 1178 01:58:54.660 --> 01:58:55.320 Daffodil Tyminski: thanks for having. 1179 01:58:56.700 --> 01:58:58.260 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, with that will close public comment. 1180 01:58:58.800 --> 01:58:59.220 jim murez: Thank you. 1181 01:59:00.930 --> 01:59:01.530 jim murez: um. 1182 01:59:02.130 --> 01:59:03.210 jim murez: Any committee comment. 1183 01:59:05.400 --> 01:59:06.330 jim murez: All you have your hand up. 1184 01:59:06.630 --> 01:59:11.100 Alley Bean: Again, just want to say thank you, it only takes a second, but thank you so much, Sarah and. 1185 01:59:12.150 --> 01:59:12.720 jim murez: um. 1186 01:59:13.860 --> 01:59:15.120 jim murez: Any other committee comment. 1187 01:59:20.940 --> 01:59:21.990 jim murez: Eating gun. 1188 01:59:24.480 --> 01:59:27.060 jim murez: Preserving public spaces has their hand I don't okay. 1189 01:59:27.720 --> 01:59:42.120 Daffodil Tyminski: I think and, by the way this is for everyone, giving public comment, if you could lower your hands after you give public comment, it seems like a small thing to do, but it actually messes up the order that everyone appears in and just makes it a little less efficient. 1190 01:59:46.080 --> 01:59:50.820 jim murez: um anybody entertaining anybody voting, though. 1191 01:59:52.170 --> 01:59:52.560 jim murez: I will. 1192 01:59:52.890 --> 01:59:57.780 jim murez: check off everybody as a yes unless somebody has something to say. 1193 02:00:04.770 --> 02:00:05.370 jim murez: Okay. 1194 02:00:05.520 --> 02:00:07.230 jim murez: Good team 00. 1195 02:00:08.100 --> 02:00:17.820 jim murez: Job i'm the last committee is the discussion forum committee could somebody make a motion boys. 1196 02:00:19.380 --> 02:00:21.210 Daffodil Tyminski: it's daffodil I will make the motion. 1197 02:00:21.780 --> 02:00:23.220 Alley Bean: Thank you Kelly second. 1198 02:00:24.000 --> 02:00:24.510 jim murez: was a. 1199 02:00:24.840 --> 02:00:26.370 jim murez: alley Thank you oh. 1200 02:00:29.700 --> 02:00:34.800 jim murez: i'm Joe are you or is Joe or Paul here either one. 1201 02:00:35.700 --> 02:00:38.370 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Joe is here and Paul is here. 1202 02:00:38.640 --> 02:00:44.700 jim murez: Okay, why don't we unmute both of them, let them, are you between the two of them about who wants to make the presentation. 1203 02:00:45.210 --> 02:00:51.360 Daffodil Tyminski: Sure i'm gonna let paga first and Joe Oh yes, Joe Joe i'm gonna unmute you as well. 1204 02:00:52.980 --> 02:00:54.000 Daffodil Tyminski: jumping around. 1205 02:00:54.270 --> 02:00:58.530 jim murez: Which of you guys would like to take your two minutes to tell us what the great discussions you've out. 1206 02:00:59.850 --> 02:01:02.850 Paul Davis: i'll be happy to say a few words, can you guys hear me this is Paul. 1207 02:01:03.150 --> 02:01:03.690 Yes. 1208 02:01:04.890 --> 02:01:12.000 Paul Davis: super okay well i'm guys, as some of you probably have, in a sense, Joe is a founder of this committee. 1209 02:01:12.480 --> 02:01:24.450 Paul Davis: I would say, at least 10 years back, and the notion has been that the committee would have discussions and in effect brainstorm about ways that the dnc might ultimately. 1210 02:01:25.380 --> 02:01:30.240 Paul Davis: get involved in things that are a benefit to the Community, and I think the thought was to do that and keeping with. 1211 02:01:31.140 --> 02:01:39.300 Paul Davis: Nine vision goals which were adopted years ago that had to do with things like walkability and diversity and focus on children and. 1212 02:01:39.630 --> 02:01:50.100 Paul Davis: You know, presumably sort of non controversial things that could be acted upon and benefit to the Venice area, and I think probably about four years ago. 1213 02:01:50.610 --> 02:02:00.540 Paul Davis: Joe got joelle Dumas who's the headmistress of the ECHO Claire fontanne preschool and me i'm a local father and architect to join him as Co. 1214 02:02:01.620 --> 02:02:06.810 Paul Davis: Co chairs of this committee and we've been working on a couple of things one was a. 1215 02:02:07.770 --> 02:02:19.110 Paul Davis: With support of deviancy a high school internship program which was unfortunately kind of cut off in its early infancy by the pandemic and which we want to get going again. 1216 02:02:19.590 --> 02:02:26.580 Paul Davis: And then we've had a few motions recently that we've supported in concert with other committees, like the tiny houses. 1217 02:02:27.060 --> 02:02:35.430 Paul Davis: motion which just advocated for ways of trying to get more people off the streets and recently we've had a motion passed by the Board which. 1218 02:02:36.030 --> 02:02:44.370 Paul Davis: supports are working to kind of assess the amenities available in Venice parks and work to make parks better places for children and families. 1219 02:02:45.270 --> 02:02:54.990 Paul Davis: And you know we're just trying to focus on I think Community building initiatives so Joe and Joe and I are involved john palka the pastor of the Lutheran churches Member. 1220 02:02:56.280 --> 02:02:56.700 Paul Davis: i'm sorry. 1221 02:02:58.890 --> 02:02:59.370 jim murez: Go ahead. 1222 02:02:59.790 --> 02:03:16.110 Paul Davis: Okay, we have minutiae mojo lolly involved regan kV of Venice moms Robin mirror as often comes to our meetings Helen fallon is someone who visits with us, often, so we have good talks, and we think we're up to things that are valuable to the Community and we'd love to continue ahead. 1223 02:03:17.460 --> 02:03:18.150 jim murez: Thank you, Paul. 1224 02:03:19.560 --> 02:03:24.660 jim murez: Jones Joe do you have a very brief two or three words to say we got to keep the meeting going. 1225 02:03:25.320 --> 02:03:25.740 I. 1226 02:03:27.420 --> 02:03:28.170 Joseph Murphy: Can you hear me. 1227 02:03:28.500 --> 02:03:28.980 Yes. 1228 02:03:30.420 --> 02:03:36.750 Joseph Murphy: i'll just add this i've heard several other committees mentioned doing work that is. 1229 02:03:38.130 --> 02:03:42.570 Joseph Murphy: dovetails with what we are interested in or focused on. 1230 02:03:44.430 --> 02:04:00.630 Joseph Murphy: On to children's playgrounds at the moment but there's no reason why we can't coordinate with other communities and get you know, a mix of involvement that could could help us and perhaps help them so. 1231 02:04:01.560 --> 02:04:04.320 jim murez: Thank you very much john, thank you for the your many years of. 1232 02:04:05.370 --> 02:04:11.970 jim murez: leading this group um let's look and see if we have any public comment daffodil. 1233 02:04:13.410 --> 02:04:19.290 Daffodil Tyminski: We do um go developer go ahead and please stay on topic. 1234 02:04:22.260 --> 02:04:25.770 Goat Nigger Developer: Did you do something anger them not me right. 1235 02:04:27.210 --> 02:04:31.830 Goat Nigger Developer: So what happened here but discussion forum. 1236 02:04:32.370 --> 02:04:34.200 Goat Nigger Developer: it's to overbroad. 1237 02:04:35.220 --> 02:04:53.310 Goat Nigger Developer: that's a word J handle knows it's a legal term, yes, and it can mean anything, so we should get rid of this committee, we can have discussion forums within the other committees discussion forums on one control within that committee. 1238 02:04:53.880 --> 02:05:03.420 Goat Nigger Developer: And discussion forums on homelessness within our ad hoc we don't need a separate discussion forum, especially a temporary mandate. 1239 02:05:04.230 --> 02:05:23.970 Goat Nigger Developer: We need to get rid of that there's too many ad hoc committee ad hoc committees, and you can ask your city official from done are supposed to have a temporary why how long has this been going on it's been going on since before I was manufactured in China and i'm a puppet. 1240 02:05:26.730 --> 02:05:28.650 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks go developer. 1241 02:05:29.760 --> 02:05:32.160 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Robin go ahead. 1242 02:05:35.130 --> 02:05:36.630 Preserving Public Places Committee: I hope you're hearing me, are you. 1243 02:05:37.320 --> 02:05:37.740 Yes. 1244 02:05:38.970 --> 02:05:40.950 Preserving Public Places Committee: So yeah just real quickly. 1245 02:05:41.160 --> 02:05:47.040 Preserving Public Places Committee: Just comedians and others, and what they do is good, show that keep them going. 1246 02:05:49.860 --> 02:05:50.490 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Robin. 1247 02:05:52.470 --> 02:05:53.910 Daffodil Tyminski: Without will close public comment Jim. 1248 02:05:55.650 --> 02:05:57.090 jim murez: Okay, thank you um. 1249 02:05:58.620 --> 02:06:00.120 jim murez: We have any committee. 1250 02:06:00.270 --> 02:06:01.920 jim murez: Discussion Jimmy have your hand up. 1251 02:06:04.620 --> 02:06:05.610 jim murez: You have to unmute Jim. 1252 02:06:10.500 --> 02:06:21.450 Jim Robb: I would, I would love to have them join us the ocean front walk as you, as you know, there's lots of children down here there's lots of parts and stuff like that so. 1253 02:06:22.590 --> 02:06:27.570 Jim Robb: i'd love to have you in our meeting and kind of break down what you do so, we work together, thank you. 1254 02:06:29.430 --> 02:06:30.360 jim murez: say thank you, Jim. 1255 02:06:31.170 --> 02:06:33.330 jim murez: Do we have any other hands from the board. 1256 02:06:33.930 --> 02:06:35.370 Daffodil Tyminski: No other hands from the board Jim. 1257 02:06:36.090 --> 02:06:38.160 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, I think we can call it up okay. 1258 02:06:39.240 --> 02:06:44.310 jim murez: um let's call the boat does anybody want to abstain. 1259 02:06:45.030 --> 02:06:45.720 CJ Cole: I do. 1260 02:06:46.560 --> 02:06:47.430 jim murez: i'm sorry, who was a. 1261 02:06:47.850 --> 02:06:48.480 cj. 1262 02:06:49.770 --> 02:06:50.820 jim murez: Okay. 1263 02:06:53.070 --> 02:06:54.660 jim murez: Does anybody want to vote no. 1264 02:06:58.050 --> 02:06:59.130 jim murez: Seeing. 1265 02:06:59.910 --> 02:07:04.710 jim murez: No other boats or no other comments that will make them all yeses. 1266 02:07:07.530 --> 02:07:07.950 Jason Sugars: mine. 1267 02:07:08.790 --> 02:07:09.330 jim murez: Who was a. 1268 02:07:09.690 --> 02:07:10.560 Jason Sugars: Jason sugars. 1269 02:07:11.940 --> 02:07:12.780 jim murez: Okay. 1270 02:07:14.250 --> 02:07:15.540 jim murez: How are you voting Jason. 1271 02:07:18.690 --> 02:07:19.230 Jason Sugars: Alexander. 1272 02:07:19.560 --> 02:07:21.840 jim murez: Abstaining okay alley okay. 1273 02:07:23.130 --> 02:07:24.900 jim murez: Like bravo so. 1274 02:07:28.140 --> 02:07:29.610 jim murez: Robert Clark. 1275 02:07:31.590 --> 02:07:33.780 jim murez: So that one carries 14 02. 1276 02:07:35.820 --> 02:07:36.270 jim murez: Okay. 1277 02:07:37.290 --> 02:07:49.800 jim murez: That was the last of our committees they've all been upped will be doing this again next month, I believe we have another committee or two coming up and then probably the Month after that, as well, just so everybody's aware now let's go back up to. 1278 02:07:49.800 --> 02:07:51.630 jim murez: Our when we scheduled. 1279 02:07:53.370 --> 02:07:53.730 Jim Robb: So. 1280 02:07:54.810 --> 02:07:59.550 Jim Robb: i'm confused is the social justice and equity is that it not up for vote. 1281 02:07:59.940 --> 02:08:00.570 jim murez: that's correct. 1282 02:08:00.840 --> 02:08:05.070 jim murez: One one year after the the committee was created. 1283 02:08:06.240 --> 02:08:06.720 Jim Robb: Thank you. 1284 02:08:07.410 --> 02:08:11.430 jim murez: Okay, so back to Item number 13. 1285 02:08:12.840 --> 02:08:13.620 jim murez: um. 1286 02:08:16.260 --> 02:08:22.410 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah this is definitely my apologies and i'm really sorry about this, I need just need to step out for a couple minutes okay. 1287 02:08:22.800 --> 02:08:25.200 jim murez: i'll just juggle it all that's OK OK. 1288 02:08:26.490 --> 02:08:27.060 jim murez: i'm. 1289 02:08:28.110 --> 02:08:29.370 jim murez: cj you saw your hand up. 1290 02:08:31.080 --> 02:08:32.100 jim murez: yeah you're muted. 1291 02:08:34.860 --> 02:08:40.290 CJ Cole: I need your ricky's on 14 because I live within 1000 miles around property. 1292 02:08:40.440 --> 02:08:41.970 jim murez: thousand miles okay. 1293 02:08:44.130 --> 02:08:44.640 CJ Cole: got it. 1294 02:08:44.940 --> 02:08:45.570 jim murez: I understood. 1295 02:08:47.610 --> 02:08:48.120 CJ Cole: gee. 1296 02:08:49.890 --> 02:08:50.970 jim murez: i'm. 1297 02:08:54.630 --> 02:08:55.170 jim murez: Okay. 1298 02:08:57.390 --> 02:08:57.930 jim murez: um. 1299 02:08:59.100 --> 02:09:00.960 jim murez: I don't know Al you have your hand up. 1300 02:09:01.200 --> 02:09:02.640 Alley Bean: Are we on 14 or 13. 1301 02:09:03.000 --> 02:09:04.710 jim murez: Well, so so. 1302 02:09:06.090 --> 02:09:07.860 Alley Bean: tillerson for 13 if you want to. 1303 02:09:08.130 --> 02:09:20.820 jim murez: 13 is a calendar for four items 14 through 16 that'd be 1415 and 1614 is the bridge and canal park motion. 1304 02:09:23.490 --> 02:09:28.830 jim murez: snap is the sidewalk and traffic amenities program and. 1305 02:09:30.000 --> 02:09:35.160 jim murez: 16 is the no trespassing signs at lot seven one and 731. 1306 02:09:35.880 --> 02:09:38.820 Alley Bean: Okay i'll make the motion but I also should refuse. 1307 02:09:42.540 --> 02:09:45.810 jim murez: And set items I don't believe nita motion we just. 1308 02:09:47.460 --> 02:09:50.040 jim murez: pull any of the items off of the. 1309 02:09:50.520 --> 02:09:50.880 past. 1310 02:09:51.990 --> 02:09:52.740 jim murez: And if. 1311 02:09:53.430 --> 02:09:55.650 jim murez: Okay, if know committee Member. 1312 02:09:55.710 --> 02:09:57.630 Joseph Murphy: I expected I expected. 1313 02:09:58.320 --> 02:10:03.690 jim murez: Joe, could you please I need to do that for you hold on I gotta get back in control of this here. 1314 02:10:04.200 --> 02:10:04.530 Joseph Murphy: Oh yeah. 1315 02:10:05.280 --> 02:10:09.720 jim murez: Joe or she removed permission to talk okay. 1316 02:10:10.860 --> 02:10:11.610 jim murez: i'm sorry. 1317 02:10:12.030 --> 02:10:15.990 Alley Bean: excuse for item 14 too, because I also live within 1000 miles. 1318 02:10:16.080 --> 02:10:16.380 Okay. 1319 02:10:17.520 --> 02:10:19.920 jim murez: Before we go there um. 1320 02:10:21.120 --> 02:10:27.330 jim murez: Does anybody on the board want to pull any of those three items off of consent. 1321 02:10:28.590 --> 02:10:31.440 jim murez: Now I will ask the general public. 1322 02:10:33.060 --> 02:10:41.280 jim murez: raise your hand, please general public, if you would like to pull any of those three items off of the consent calendar. 1323 02:10:42.390 --> 02:10:44.430 jim murez: I see two hands raised. 1324 02:10:45.780 --> 02:10:47.370 jim murez: goat puppets go ahead. 1325 02:10:48.330 --> 02:10:55.380 Goat Nigger Developer: yeah i'm being behalf of all animals don't puppet wants to pull free items off. 1326 02:10:57.420 --> 02:10:59.880 jim murez: This could you give us a reason why. 1327 02:11:01.530 --> 02:11:07.470 Goat Nigger Developer: that's obvious, we want to go over the cultural history of the canal bridges. 1328 02:11:10.080 --> 02:11:22.980 Goat Nigger Developer: And of course we want to go over the other two but you're hiding the agenda hilleman and I can't read it, I can read six languages, but I you took it off, I used to see it on the screen. 1329 02:11:24.540 --> 02:11:26.250 Goat Nigger Developer: Yes, I demand the journey. 1330 02:11:27.270 --> 02:11:34.020 Goat Nigger Developer: on our agenda put back the agenda, so I could see it and be able to comment on this question correctly. 1331 02:11:35.550 --> 02:11:36.120 Goat Nigger Developer: you're being. 1332 02:11:36.390 --> 02:11:36.810 Goat Nigger Developer: you're being. 1333 02:11:37.020 --> 02:11:38.610 jim murez: faithful Thank you. 1334 02:11:42.750 --> 02:11:46.080 jim murez: Lisa redmond redmen go ahead, please. 1335 02:11:47.190 --> 02:11:51.360 Lisa Redmond: I yes i'd like to pull all three motions off consent as well. 1336 02:11:51.960 --> 02:11:53.550 jim murez: And why would you like to do that. 1337 02:11:54.000 --> 02:12:05.280 Lisa Redmond: Okay, one the historic bridge motion, I think, is a little controversial because it is in direct opposition to the plans for the Venice median project or the reese Davidson project. 1338 02:12:06.600 --> 02:12:13.230 Lisa Redmond: The stop motion is very vague and doesn't give a lot of information to the public. 1339 02:12:14.010 --> 02:12:33.810 Lisa Redmond: For to go directly to consent and the 16 motion is completely absent you're just giving lot number 71731 with no address, so the public could not be aware in advance to understand what was being talked about, and finally, I pretty sure none of those were. 1340 02:12:35.280 --> 02:12:42.510 jim murez: Okay, so we're going to pull all three of those items off if the attendees that pulled them off or not here at the end of the meeting when the items are heard. 1341 02:12:43.620 --> 02:12:47.310 jim murez: They will go back on consent, they have to be in attendance. 1342 02:12:47.730 --> 02:12:48.840 Goat Nigger Developer: i'll be here. 1343 02:12:49.980 --> 02:12:58.200 jim murez: Okay, go puppet if you interrupt and speak out, one more time without being called on i'm going to remove you from the meeting I want that to be very clear. 1344 02:12:58.890 --> 02:13:09.570 jim murez: you've done that now, this is the third time, I believe that i've heard you speak out of turn I don't want to hear it anymore, I will just remove you from the meeting okay you've been warned. 1345 02:13:11.850 --> 02:13:15.570 jim murez: let's go back to our agenda, I need to close this few. 1346 02:13:17.100 --> 02:13:18.990 jim murez: Give me one second. 1347 02:13:23.070 --> 02:13:31.410 jim murez: Okay, so the three consent items are going to come at the end of the meeting, we will have to come back to those now we're into old business. 1348 02:13:35.010 --> 02:13:46.260 jim murez: So we're into the selection of the treasurer the Community officer and the loop pack Member you're going to give each of these individuals, a chance to speak. 1349 02:13:47.550 --> 02:13:47.880 jim murez: and 1350 02:13:48.960 --> 02:13:49.680 jim murez: Then each. 1351 02:13:56.550 --> 02:13:57.180 jim murez: Each one minute. 1352 02:13:59.010 --> 02:13:59.730 jim murez: Two minutes. 1353 02:14:02.010 --> 02:14:03.720 jim murez: anybody's opinion. 1354 02:14:04.290 --> 02:14:06.180 Jason Sugars: Someone needs to be muted. 1355 02:14:10.260 --> 02:14:10.890 Vicki Halliday: Ivan. 1356 02:14:11.460 --> 02:14:13.560 jim murez: Okay, I could just. 1357 02:14:15.480 --> 02:14:16.650 jim murez: Can I do this. 1358 02:14:17.940 --> 02:14:19.890 jim murez: I can just remove him from the meeting. 1359 02:14:20.580 --> 02:14:22.260 Vicki Halliday: He doesn't know he's muted himself now. 1360 02:14:24.180 --> 02:14:24.960 jim murez: i'm. 1361 02:14:27.300 --> 02:14:29.280 jim murez: Okay, so we in agreement, one minutes enough. 1362 02:14:32.310 --> 02:14:36.840 jim murez: All right, well i'm just going to go through will let me, let me just momentarily. 1363 02:14:39.930 --> 02:14:46.980 jim murez: Go someplace else, so all of you can see, this we're going to be using Can you see my screen right now with the spreadsheet. 1364 02:14:48.330 --> 02:14:54.600 jim murez: said yes or no, no Okay, I think I have to stop sharing and show you all, what we're going to do. 1365 02:14:56.730 --> 02:14:58.140 jim murez: i'm going to. 1366 02:14:59.400 --> 02:15:06.930 jim murez: share this screen after everyone's had a chance to speak and we're going to tally the vote, I will call each of the board members. 1367 02:15:07.470 --> 02:15:18.930 jim murez: And each person will be able to say which three people they want to vote for so within the treasure there's there's one of three people within the Community officer there's one of three people. 1368 02:15:19.260 --> 02:15:30.270 jim murez: And within loop back there's one of two people at the end, we will have a tally of who is it that gets to be a member of our new committees, I will be doing that, following each of their presentations. 1369 02:15:32.130 --> 02:15:39.000 jim murez: Now let's go back and give them a chance to present to find that screen here it is. 1370 02:15:41.040 --> 02:15:42.900 jim murez: Okay, so let's start with. 1371 02:15:44.310 --> 02:15:44.790 jim murez: Helen. 1372 02:15:48.330 --> 02:15:53.100 jim murez: Do we think, by the way, does does anybody have any objection with one minute, just so we can keep the meeting moving. 1373 02:15:54.180 --> 02:15:58.260 jim murez: everybody's already presented their their. 1374 02:15:59.280 --> 02:16:02.850 jim murez: Application everybody's had a chance to look at it so let's go with one minute Helen. 1375 02:16:04.350 --> 02:16:07.020 jim murez: Oh, this is going to be a little bit more difficult let's see here. 1376 02:16:08.190 --> 02:16:08.910 jim murez: How do I run. 1377 02:16:10.650 --> 02:16:11.520 jim murez: The clock. 1378 02:16:17.460 --> 02:16:22.170 jim murez: Okay Helen allowed to talk go ahead hello, you have a minute. 1379 02:16:22.740 --> 02:16:33.420 Helen Fallon: Jim before you start the timer I will remind you that you just sent out a letter to all the applicants saying we had two minutes apiece i'm probably not the only person who spend time on a speech and it's finding i'm being. 1380 02:16:33.420 --> 02:16:40.290 jim murez: Short changed of time I forgot, thank you, if we have I said two minutes to speak, I will change the clock to say to. 1381 02:16:40.620 --> 02:16:41.190 Helen Fallon: Thank you. 1382 02:16:42.090 --> 02:16:46.470 jim murez: Thank you very much for pointing that out, no help you to. 1383 02:16:47.250 --> 02:16:54.300 Helen Fallon: One Thank you Okay, the funding policies that apply to all neighborhood Council state that all board members have a fiduciary responsibility. 1384 02:16:54.750 --> 02:17:00.900 Helen Fallon: To ensure that the funding account activity or respective boards complies with establish policies and guidelines prescribed by the Office. 1385 02:17:01.200 --> 02:17:08.130 Helen Fallon: Of the city clerk complaining wish it's a city clerk's office not empower that decides exactly what the dollars and MC receives can be spent on. 1386 02:17:08.490 --> 02:17:12.000 Helen Fallon: Who can we see these dollars and how these expenditures must be properly documented. 1387 02:17:12.450 --> 02:17:15.990 Helen Fallon: Each and every board members responsible for making sure funding policies or false. 1388 02:17:16.350 --> 02:17:20.130 Helen Fallon: And most of you know you have spent most of you have no interest in being directly involved. 1389 02:17:20.430 --> 02:17:28.170 Helen Fallon: in ensuring these physical requirements in that so it's in your best interest to select a treasure will make sure that the answer is always compliant with mandated funding policies. 1390 02:17:28.620 --> 02:17:34.230 Helen Fallon: it's also in your best interest to have a treasure was capable of providing you with accurate and complete up to date, financial information. 1391 02:17:34.500 --> 02:17:42.690 Helen Fallon: In a way that makes sense and is transparency in your best interest of a treasure and only stand understands why these rules require but will take the time to pay attention to the details. 1392 02:17:43.080 --> 02:17:49.860 Helen Fallon: Ensuring that the t's are crossed, and every I is dotted you actually have a funny wash on tonight's agenda the density, how it was supposed to. 1393 02:17:50.820 --> 02:18:04.470 Helen Fallon: function properly, I do have a little more time I spent the better part of my professional career providing easily understandable financial reports getting clear explanations and keeping accurate records I believe my application speaks for itself self, and I thank you for your vote. 1394 02:18:13.260 --> 02:18:13.830 jim murez: sherry. 1395 02:18:14.310 --> 02:18:17.280 Helen Fallon: I would have included a whole nother paragraph in there, Jim thanks. 1396 02:18:18.360 --> 02:18:19.710 jim murez: You did just fine Thank you. 1397 02:18:21.780 --> 02:18:22.410 jim murez: i'm. 1398 02:18:25.560 --> 02:18:28.290 jim murez: me just quickly see who is next Jay handle. 1399 02:18:29.130 --> 02:18:30.840 jim murez: yeah okay go ahead. 1400 02:18:31.650 --> 02:18:40.320 Jay Handal: Good evening everybody I am your current treasurer and I completely agree with what Helen said in a treasure, you need someone who is responsible, who knows the rules. 1401 02:18:40.740 --> 02:18:48.300 Jay Handal: And who keeps track of things and is fully transparent, I think you can see from the reports I produced over three months that. 1402 02:18:48.720 --> 02:18:59.460 Jay Handal: The website additions to show the general public, exactly where our money is where our money stands how much money is left in every category is it that's exactly what I do. 1403 02:19:00.420 --> 02:19:10.590 Jay Handal: My job my real life job is I run 100 million dollar company, I am CFO and coo and $32,000 is less than one day's. 1404 02:19:11.400 --> 02:19:22.110 Jay Handal: Take on one of my stores, this is very easy for me, so I think what I brought to the table is I brought myself, first of all, which is. 1405 02:19:22.830 --> 02:19:28.830 Jay Handal: Coming to help a neighborhood Council that towards the end of its fiscal year was in some trouble. 1406 02:19:29.190 --> 02:19:37.020 Jay Handal: To be able to spend its money try and spend its money and get its books and records back on target with the city clerk's office and I think. 1407 02:19:37.620 --> 02:19:44.970 Jay Handal: I would have to say I did a very good job, because everything got put back to where it should have been everything was notated everything was attached. 1408 02:19:45.540 --> 02:19:52.890 Jay Handal: city clerk's office got the things they needed that I was able to obtain and this board in the general public have been. 1409 02:19:53.280 --> 02:20:11.280 Jay Handal: Given all of the information in a very transparent way, so all I can say is, if you want to continue to have that transparency that openness and that type of responsible bookkeeping and treasury, then I would ask you to vote for me, thank you very much. 1410 02:20:12.120 --> 02:20:12.900 jim murez: Thank you Jay. 1411 02:20:15.420 --> 02:20:15.960 jim murez: i'm. 1412 02:20:19.440 --> 02:20:25.620 jim murez: next person is Robin Brutus so let me figure out how to get you unmuted. 1413 02:20:27.000 --> 02:20:28.260 Vicki Halliday: sorry about that. 1414 02:20:31.470 --> 02:20:37.320 jim murez: I saw you here you have your hand up if you scroll up here hold on Oh, there you are. 1415 02:20:39.660 --> 02:20:43.290 jim murez: Robin you are unmuted go ahead, please. 1416 02:20:43.890 --> 02:20:54.420 Robin Rudisill: Thanks Jim and hi everyone, I want you to know that i'm very discouraged, because one of the ocean front walk committee recent motions was just tossed out. 1417 02:20:55.020 --> 02:21:03.270 Robin Rudisill: By ad calm and this imposition of the will of the dnc leadership over what a standing committee expected to move forward to the board on is. 1418 02:21:03.630 --> 02:21:09.060 Robin Rudisill: really unacceptable, it was kicked back to the committee chair and he was told to report the violation himself. 1419 02:21:09.480 --> 02:21:18.150 Robin Rudisill: And this really defeats the purpose of the dnc and significantly delayed and perpetuated and facilitated a continuation of a violation. 1420 02:21:18.570 --> 02:21:28.770 Robin Rudisill: So I say all that, because the incident told me that the micromanaging and authoritarian condescending manner in which the dnc is run is not something I feel I can be involved with. 1421 02:21:29.490 --> 02:21:34.980 Robin Rudisill: The US i'm strongly recommending that you vote for Helen fallon for dnc treasure. 1422 02:21:35.430 --> 02:21:49.590 Robin Rudisill: She is a long time Venetian who's incredibly smart she knows her stuff she's dedicated she's already taken the treasure training, she has significant experience in accounting and finance for nonprofits corporations and trust. 1423 02:21:50.010 --> 02:22:00.330 Robin Rudisill: she's transparent and follows the rules, I would want her as a capable and key Member of any group i'm in, and I would definitely want her on my side, working with me. 1424 02:22:00.780 --> 02:22:08.070 Robin Rudisill: I took a look at the other two candidates applications and I found them to be insignificant contrast to each other. 1425 02:22:08.580 --> 02:22:29.100 Robin Rudisill: Helens application is legible complete and clear and for a treasurer position, the work needs to be done in a neat accurate, transparent and clear manner that's very important, so I am withdrawing my application and I asked that you vote for Helen fallon for dnc treasure tonight. 1426 02:22:30.960 --> 02:22:31.680 jim murez: Thank you, Robin. 1427 02:22:37.170 --> 02:22:38.010 jim murez: Next up. 1428 02:22:39.870 --> 02:22:47.040 jim murez: Is zachary built there's no promise there that was my bad sorry everybody zachary best. 1429 02:22:49.320 --> 02:22:52.260 jim murez: Let me find you in the lists and. 1430 02:22:54.030 --> 02:22:57.450 jim murez: allow you to talk zachary if you're here raise your hand, please. 1431 02:23:00.570 --> 02:23:07.350 robertthibodeau: Can you clarify Jim because this may not be clear to everybody that zachary is is running for different position. 1432 02:23:07.560 --> 02:23:11.850 jim murez: yeah sacra he's running for Community officer he's not running for treasure we just had all three. 1433 02:23:12.240 --> 02:23:15.480 Jim Robb: I was very I was very confused there as well, so. 1434 02:23:16.050 --> 02:23:17.640 Jim Robb: I offer yeah. 1435 02:23:17.670 --> 02:23:18.540 robertthibodeau: Being the thing. 1436 02:23:18.750 --> 02:23:19.530 robertthibodeau: yeah okay. 1437 02:23:19.710 --> 02:23:20.580 robertthibodeau: Jay trying to help. 1438 02:23:20.670 --> 02:23:23.760 jim murez: fairly clear on the agenda that zachary's running for. 1439 02:23:23.850 --> 02:23:27.150 jim murez: Community officer so is Chris and so as Michelle. 1440 02:23:28.590 --> 02:23:35.670 jim murez: It very written out very clearly so, but any rate okay yeah I can help clarify exactly if you're here raise your hand, please. 1441 02:23:38.400 --> 02:23:43.950 jim murez: zachary's not here, we will go on Chris are you here, raise your hand, please if you're in the audience Chris. 1442 02:23:48.060 --> 02:23:50.160 jim murez: I see Chris is here and his hand is up. 1443 02:23:52.200 --> 02:23:55.320 jim murez: Chris go ahead and speak, please. 1444 02:23:56.970 --> 02:23:58.440 kris: Yes, Sir, thank you. 1445 02:24:00.090 --> 02:24:00.480 kris: My name. 1446 02:24:01.200 --> 02:24:13.350 kris: My name is Chris dahlin I have lived in Venice, since my parents bought a House here 67 years ago my niece and her husband and two kids now live in my childhood home on harding avenue. 1447 02:24:14.460 --> 02:24:31.740 kris: I have eight relatives and many family, friends, still living in Venice so i'm very interested in livability of Venice, I went to St mark school my mother and wife taught there I attended St monica's and my wife and I got our masters at LM yes. 1448 02:24:33.060 --> 02:24:51.420 kris: I have been an active member since the creation of the DNA I plan to function as a representative of the original Venetians as well as the often ignored Homeowners east of Lincoln my two daughters move to more affordable housing after their master's degree. 1449 02:24:52.770 --> 02:25:06.390 kris: Thus I got to list one of their bedrooms as an airbnb those two married families reluctantly relocated to cheaper parts of the city, maybe we can get the homeless visitors to also live in a cheaper part of the city. 1450 02:25:07.890 --> 02:25:14.580 kris: I take my dog to Venice beach almost every sunset my photos appear regularly and the organizer. 1451 02:25:15.510 --> 02:25:29.190 kris: I got regularly at penn more by the sea I shot Fridays for my produce and now peaches and oranges, etc, at our business farmers market, so I experienced almost daily the homeless problem here in Venice. 1452 02:25:30.180 --> 02:25:40.860 kris: As the liberal, I have voted for both the Los Angeles and state propositions for money for the homeless, but I oppose building $1.3 million houses for them. 1453 02:25:41.310 --> 02:26:00.660 kris: I signed the recall a bonus and one, a new look for our representatives in Los Angeles, thank you vote Chris Dalton and, by the way my nephew and neighbor Alex Carl and attorney I support for the l you PC i'm hoping to turn to in person means. 1454 02:26:01.830 --> 02:26:02.220 kris: Thank you. 1455 02:26:02.790 --> 02:26:03.540 jim murez: Thank you, Chris. 1456 02:26:06.660 --> 02:26:11.490 jim murez: Next up Michelle are you here, Michelle raise your hand, please, if you are here. 1457 02:26:15.240 --> 02:26:18.270 jim murez: The Shell, are you here, I don't see you in the list. 1458 02:26:20.910 --> 02:26:22.380 kris: Oh, thank you Teresa. 1459 02:26:23.100 --> 02:26:24.180 jim murez: Oh, you need to mute. 1460 02:26:30.720 --> 02:26:36.420 jim murez: Okay, moving right along Alexander Carl are you here, raise your hand, please. 1461 02:26:41.730 --> 02:26:43.920 robertthibodeau: Again, Jim i'm going to jump in for those who. 1462 02:26:44.280 --> 02:26:44.670 robertthibodeau: This is. 1463 02:26:44.760 --> 02:26:46.860 jim murez: Back Yes, this is for loop back now those. 1464 02:26:47.040 --> 02:26:48.240 robertthibodeau: are little pack, so this is a. 1465 02:26:48.240 --> 02:26:49.380 robertthibodeau: Different different off. 1466 02:26:49.410 --> 02:27:01.080 jim murez: Yet we only had one Community officer speaking the other two people did not show up tonight and, by the way, everybody was contacted by email, I personally nature that they all got CC on the agenda. 1467 02:27:02.490 --> 02:27:08.310 Jim Robb: The agenda but i'm still confused, but thank you, Robert I appreciate that, so we got one vote for. 1468 02:27:08.370 --> 02:27:09.180 jim murez: For yeah. 1469 02:27:09.210 --> 02:27:10.080 Jim Robb: Really officer. 1470 02:27:10.860 --> 02:27:14.550 jim murez: Jim calm down, let me, let me continue we'll we'll get to them we're not there yet. 1471 02:27:15.660 --> 02:27:24.480 jim murez: um Alex is not here, he hasn't raised his hand is Christopher here, Christopher mclean are you here. 1472 02:27:27.960 --> 02:27:29.760 jim murez: I don't see him. 1473 02:27:32.340 --> 02:27:33.360 jim murez: Yet here, he is great. 1474 02:27:35.310 --> 02:27:40.110 jim murez: Christopher you are unmuted go ahead. 1475 02:27:41.400 --> 02:27:42.570 Christopher McLean: hi everyone. 1476 02:27:43.860 --> 02:27:51.210 Christopher McLean: My name is Chris mclean or Christopher mclean I lived in Venice since 2013. 1477 02:27:52.680 --> 02:27:59.250 Christopher McLean: And before that I just a little bit of a background I grew up on a small farm in a small town in Alaska. 1478 02:27:59.940 --> 02:28:12.630 Christopher McLean: and work my way down to Los Angeles, and as soon as I moved down here I fell in love with Venice I kind of really felt like the small community ties to where I grew up and really felt like it was a place, I called home ever since then. 1479 02:28:13.830 --> 02:28:20.910 Christopher McLean: And I am actually a licensed architect, I have a small firm here that I started in 2017 called hatch. 1480 02:28:22.320 --> 02:28:35.460 Christopher McLean: I love the rich Community I love the diverse community and the artistic side of it, as well as the sustainable sensibilities and I have a deep love for design. 1481 02:28:36.210 --> 02:28:48.570 Christopher McLean: So i'm hoping that I can join the board, and you know help facilitate great design, not just from individual projects, you know scale, but also on a larger scale, as I know. 1482 02:28:49.050 --> 02:28:52.500 Christopher McLean: You know very familiar with the the specific plan and the. 1483 02:28:53.070 --> 02:29:01.350 Christopher McLean: The zoning land use plan, and I know that there's going to be some revisions to that so i'd love to be a part of that process and really make Venice. 1484 02:29:01.650 --> 02:29:15.510 Christopher McLean: Even more amazing than it is, and also hopefully address some of the issues that you know we see around Venice that I think you know we all love it and, but you know it could be better and. 1485 02:29:16.740 --> 02:29:20.490 Christopher McLean: So I just wanted to play my role in that you know, using my background. 1486 02:29:22.440 --> 02:29:23.040 Christopher McLean: and 1487 02:29:24.240 --> 02:29:34.440 Christopher McLean: I guess that's the best way to describe I have a lot of experience with the board, I worked for a local architect previously and i've process some CDP myself. 1488 02:29:35.250 --> 02:29:43.440 Christopher McLean: So I have a lot of familiarity familiarity with the whole process and Community engagement and everything like that, so thank you so much for considering me. 1489 02:29:44.190 --> 02:29:47.850 jim murez: Thank you, Chris i'm glad you're able to make it tonight um. 1490 02:29:49.830 --> 02:30:06.030 jim murez: Okay, let me just quickly go back did any of the people that were running there was a zachary Michelle and announce enter did any of you show up if you did, please raise your hand now or forever hold your peace to be able to speak. 1491 02:30:08.520 --> 02:30:09.060 jim murez: Okay. 1492 02:30:10.560 --> 02:30:11.700 jim murez: not seeing any. 1493 02:30:13.170 --> 02:30:15.240 jim murez: Hope Alexander is here i'm sorry. 1494 02:30:17.370 --> 02:30:24.360 jim murez: let's let Alexander talk Alexander you're unmuted go ahead, please. 1495 02:30:25.860 --> 02:30:31.320 Alexander Carl: Thank you, Jim for giving me this time I appreciate it my uncle Chris dawn also keyed me in. 1496 02:30:33.120 --> 02:30:41.340 Alexander Carl: Hope you guys all read my application know my background, a little bit if you have any questions i'd be more than happy to answer them. 1497 02:30:43.230 --> 02:30:55.740 Alexander Carl: i'm a business owner here in Venice i've been living here for 2012 years not 20 and my mom was born and raised here so we're six of my uncle's as well i'm very passionate about this area. 1498 02:30:56.310 --> 02:31:16.080 Alexander Carl: i'm an attorney and i'm excited to hopefully have the opportunity to be involved and the Venice neighborhood Council, especially the planning and zoning committee i'm confident in my abilities and yeah Thank you appreciate it. 1499 02:31:18.150 --> 02:31:18.780 jim murez: Thank you. 1500 02:31:20.280 --> 02:31:21.780 jim murez: Okay um. 1501 02:31:23.340 --> 02:31:24.420 jim murez: One last try. 1502 02:31:25.710 --> 02:31:27.240 jim murez: zachary best are you here. 1503 02:31:28.410 --> 02:31:32.820 jim murez: And and Michelle Scott, are you here either, if you raise your hand there. 1504 02:31:32.820 --> 02:31:34.680 Michael Jensen: might think zach is trying to call in. 1505 02:31:35.610 --> 02:31:37.320 jim murez: Oh okay. 1506 02:31:39.690 --> 02:31:40.860 jim murez: How does he do that. 1507 02:31:41.910 --> 02:31:45.090 jim murez: I don't see any phone people here nobody's here on the phone. 1508 02:31:48.570 --> 02:31:51.630 jim murez: If you're aware of that we could give them an extra second or. 1509 02:31:51.630 --> 02:31:55.530 Michael Jensen: Two yeah i'm just trying to text them the link here. 1510 02:31:56.160 --> 02:31:56.670 Okay. 1511 02:32:01.290 --> 02:32:02.040 Michael Jensen: Just a second. 1512 02:32:49.170 --> 02:32:49.830 jim murez: How we do. 1513 02:32:50.940 --> 02:32:54.480 Michael Jensen: I sent him the link i'm haven't gotten a response, yet. 1514 02:32:59.190 --> 02:33:03.720 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah someone else, this is capital someone else texted me saying he was trying to call in i'm. 1515 02:33:09.420 --> 02:33:10.770 Alexander Carl: happy to speak longer if need be. 1516 02:33:18.810 --> 02:33:21.540 Michael Jensen: Let me see if I can send a direct phone like. 1517 02:33:23.490 --> 02:33:25.050 Michael Jensen: On tap football. 1518 02:33:59.790 --> 02:34:01.140 jim murez: Okay i'm kind of. 1519 02:34:01.200 --> 02:34:02.430 Michael Jensen: starting to feel I tried. 1520 02:34:02.820 --> 02:34:05.640 jim murez: yeah we should probably move on, there will be other opportunities for. 1521 02:34:07.140 --> 02:34:24.900 jim murez: him to speak, certainly in public comment at some point in time, if he's not selected what we're going to do now, as I mentioned earlier, and need to share the other screen that I have where we will start taking our vote. 1522 02:34:26.400 --> 02:34:28.200 jim murez: So, as I call your name. 1523 02:34:29.730 --> 02:34:45.450 jim murez: Please tell me which people you are selecting so you get one statement for treasure Oh, excuse me, I wonder if we should have public comment on this do we normally Ivan are you there. 1524 02:34:47.730 --> 02:34:48.180 jim murez: Ivan. 1525 02:34:50.220 --> 02:34:50.550 Ivan: i'm here. 1526 02:34:51.420 --> 02:34:53.160 Soledad Ursua: hey Jim wouldn't it be faster if we. 1527 02:34:53.190 --> 02:34:55.020 Soledad Ursua: emailed you are choices. 1528 02:34:55.110 --> 02:34:55.770 Ivan: That we have. 1529 02:34:56.040 --> 02:34:56.520 jim murez: To do it this. 1530 02:34:57.660 --> 02:35:02.100 jim murez: Ivan do we have to take public comment on on the selection process. 1531 02:35:02.550 --> 02:35:04.290 Ivan: yeah you should. 1532 02:35:04.830 --> 02:35:09.240 melissa diner : Okay, if we do that, then, do we take board comment i'm just curious. 1533 02:35:09.990 --> 02:35:15.480 Ivan: yeah and and that's up to the chair of the Board can allow for question. 1534 02:35:15.780 --> 02:35:19.710 jim murez: To the Board is going to have an opportunity to vote and that'll be that. 1535 02:35:20.130 --> 02:35:22.800 jim murez: We don't okay to make the meeting take forever. 1536 02:35:23.820 --> 02:35:26.010 jim murez: So bored people can lower their hands. 1537 02:35:26.670 --> 02:35:28.230 Alley Bean: I just had a question not a comment. 1538 02:35:28.260 --> 02:35:30.030 jim murez: Yet we'll get to it when ready to vote. 1539 02:35:30.300 --> 02:35:34.320 jim murez: Okay let's let's take the daffodil are you back Can you help. 1540 02:35:34.500 --> 02:35:38.670 jim murez: Yes, you want to do a public comment, please. 1541 02:35:39.360 --> 02:35:40.170 Yes. 1542 02:35:43.020 --> 02:35:43.860 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm. 1543 02:35:45.720 --> 02:35:54.120 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay let's i'll take it just in the order of the hands are appearing on sorry wait one second I need to reset i'm Helen foul and go ahead. 1544 02:35:55.710 --> 02:35:56.550 Daffodil Tyminski: Thinking you to unmute. 1545 02:35:57.600 --> 02:35:58.320 Helen Fallon: yeah just. 1546 02:35:59.820 --> 02:36:10.020 Helen Fallon: Point because I pay attention to details Jimmy misspelled my name seriously Oh, could you face and i'm glad you're all voting by voice as you should. 1547 02:36:13.500 --> 02:36:14.010 jim murez: Thank you. 1548 02:36:14.250 --> 02:36:14.850 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Helen. 1549 02:36:22.080 --> 02:36:23.340 Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa redmond go ahead. 1550 02:36:26.370 --> 02:36:38.370 Lisa Redmond: yeah um when it comes to the treasure Jay blue into Venice saying that he didn't want to be treasure, he was only here temporary who's going to sit back not comment. 1551 02:36:39.240 --> 02:36:55.950 Lisa Redmond: Not abstain from every single boat and then suddenly things have changed and Jay was purely responsible, in my opinion, for leaving more than $10,000 of the budget on the ground that is going to be returned to the city, he did the same in his most recent. 1552 02:36:57.600 --> 02:37:13.470 Lisa Redmond: budget with West la and sawtelle which basically funds, a whole other neighborhood Council you know it almost creates another $32,000 This is money that could have gone into the Community with MP g's and Community improvement projects that we're all denied. 1553 02:37:14.400 --> 02:37:15.420 Lisa Redmond: On his watch. 1554 02:37:16.200 --> 02:37:26.850 Lisa Redmond: I also would prefer that Alexander is voted for new tech i'm sure Chris is a wonderful guy, but we need more less. 1555 02:37:27.300 --> 02:37:40.620 Lisa Redmond: architects and less developers and we need more regular Community people who are willing to learn and be part of looping and planning in that sense, so I encourage your vote for Alexander and your vote for Helen Thank you. 1556 02:37:40.950 --> 02:37:42.180 jim murez: Thank you, running over time. 1557 02:37:46.020 --> 02:37:47.010 jim murez: Do we have anybody else. 1558 02:37:47.220 --> 02:37:51.120 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, we do we have go developer go ahead. 1559 02:37:55.710 --> 02:37:59.370 Goat Nigger Developer: Well, this will be good or welcome on the immigration attorney. 1560 02:38:02.040 --> 02:38:07.980 Goat Nigger Developer: Was somebody that has nothing to do with construction developers. 1561 02:38:09.480 --> 02:38:15.690 Goat Nigger Developer: Why be is an FBI targets up brush down and loop back. 1562 02:38:16.710 --> 02:38:27.360 Goat Nigger Developer: But have Alex wants to come back i'll always support her she's a nice lady know we get to the most qualified person ever. 1563 02:38:28.470 --> 02:38:48.600 Goat Nigger Developer: Jerry handle Yes, he comes highly recommended by all that understand the good work he's doing all of these years fixing problems and, of course, you had a problem, and he came in as like an eagle and put everything back in the nest. 1564 02:38:50.970 --> 02:38:53.160 Goat Nigger Developer: Always supports Joe you dabble. 1565 02:38:54.900 --> 02:38:56.070 Goat Nigger Developer: And presidency. 1566 02:38:56.700 --> 02:38:57.630 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you go. 1567 02:39:00.210 --> 02:39:01.170 Daffodil Tyminski: um. 1568 02:39:03.630 --> 02:39:04.800 Daffodil Tyminski: Erica more go ahead. 1569 02:39:07.950 --> 02:39:19.590 Erica Moore: hi there um, I just wanted to say thank you to everybody that applied I think it's great that people that Community are coming out for these positions um I definitely I totally appreciate Jay stepping. 1570 02:39:19.590 --> 02:39:20.520 Erica Moore: In and helping out. 1571 02:39:20.550 --> 02:39:21.450 Daffodil Tyminski: With the Treasury. 1572 02:39:21.660 --> 02:39:22.410 Daffodil Tyminski: situation. 1573 02:39:22.920 --> 02:39:24.150 Daffodil Tyminski: But I really strongly. 1574 02:39:24.420 --> 02:39:25.830 Erica Moore: really do hope you guys consider. 1575 02:39:25.830 --> 02:39:27.600 Daffodil Tyminski: Helen for many, many reasons. 1576 02:39:28.590 --> 02:39:31.230 Erica Moore: ELENA has shown that she has. 1577 02:39:31.290 --> 02:39:32.550 Daffodil Tyminski: A lot of persistence. 1578 02:39:32.610 --> 02:39:39.750 Erica Moore: And she's very detail oriented oriented, and I think that she has proven herself, time and again that. 1579 02:39:40.140 --> 02:39:48.330 Erica Moore: She really she really should be a part of our Council she is always involved she attends almost all of the different types of meetings. 1580 02:39:48.630 --> 02:40:00.000 Erica Moore: She takes it very seriously and she is not somebody I can ever imagine saying the words that really caused a stain for me, which are well, this is not a paid position i'm a volunteer. 1581 02:40:00.570 --> 02:40:12.060 Erica Moore: The bottom line is all of you are volunteers and I would hope you're all there in those positions because you want to be there and you're willing to do what it takes to do the job, and I know she does, and thank you so much. 1582 02:40:12.300 --> 02:40:13.140 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Erica. 1583 02:40:15.450 --> 02:40:19.980 Daffodil Tyminski: um we have Robin your s go ahead. 1584 02:40:27.300 --> 02:40:35.490 Preserving Public Places Committee: Okay, I want to strongly recommend Helen i've known her for years, and she. 1585 02:40:36.090 --> 02:40:40.530 Preserving Public Places Committee: Expenditure research she looks to the fact. 1586 02:40:41.610 --> 02:40:42.810 Preserving Public Places Committee: She doesn't give. 1587 02:40:45.960 --> 02:40:50.820 Preserving Public Places Committee: An answer unless she is sure of that it's correct. 1588 02:40:52.170 --> 02:41:04.050 Preserving Public Places Committee: You know, thank you to Jay for stepping in when he you know was asked to, but I know that Helen would be very accurate and clear and make everybody's lives. 1589 02:41:04.380 --> 02:41:05.100 Soledad Ursua: Much better. 1590 02:41:05.460 --> 02:41:07.440 Preserving Public Places Committee: also invite everybody. 1591 02:41:09.660 --> 02:41:12.030 Preserving Public Places Committee: Looked at their written application. 1592 02:41:12.450 --> 02:41:28.860 Preserving Public Places Committee: I think those in them shelves are quite telling Helen is very clear and concise and well written and Jay really didn't give it two seconds to scribble down a couple words, so I really think that we need to have somebody who. 1593 02:41:29.940 --> 02:41:31.590 Preserving Public Places Committee: Does the job well that's all. 1594 02:41:31.890 --> 02:41:33.000 Daffodil Tyminski: Right thanks Robin. 1595 02:41:34.800 --> 02:41:35.520 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm. 1596 02:41:36.600 --> 02:41:38.460 Daffodil Tyminski: kalani w go ahead. 1597 02:41:39.180 --> 02:41:39.930 Kalani W: Hello Howard. 1598 02:41:40.170 --> 02:41:40.680 i'm. 1599 02:41:42.180 --> 02:41:43.080 Kalani W: As I said, i'm. 1600 02:41:44.520 --> 02:42:00.180 Kalani W: An active stakeholder throughout the West side, my primary concern is that many of our neighborhood councils are being filled by special interest groups, especially on the West side with cyclist or homeless rights advocates. 1601 02:42:00.660 --> 02:42:01.770 Kalani W: And I do hope. 1602 02:42:02.100 --> 02:42:17.580 Kalani W: That you are able to weed through the applicants to see who is in it for the Community as a whole for the greater good of the city and not just a specific cause. 1603 02:42:19.020 --> 02:42:31.290 Kalani W: This is very discouraging to the Community as a whole, that is why there's less than one 10th of 1% stakeholder participation in neighborhood Councils, thank you. 1604 02:42:32.820 --> 02:42:33.750 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much thank. 1605 02:42:33.810 --> 02:42:36.360 Jim Robb: You Dave you're joining the road Council. 1606 02:42:37.680 --> 02:42:45.630 Daffodil Tyminski: guys on the board what a mute yourselves, while we're taking public comment because we can hear your comments and our last public comment and we'll close public comment with. 1607 02:42:45.630 --> 02:42:49.200 Daffodil Tyminski: This is Sean o'brien Sean thanks for being patient go ahead. 1608 02:42:49.710 --> 02:42:51.840 Sean Obrien: Oh yes, hi Thank you oh. 1609 02:42:52.890 --> 02:43:14.430 Sean Obrien: I don't know Jay I think he's done a fabulous job of and i'm very interested in him, so I do hope you consider him as well, but for the years that i've known Helen fallon have she's been very dedicated very intelligent and I think I, I have to give my support, with her be because of all. 1610 02:43:15.660 --> 02:43:25.680 Sean Obrien: The years that i've seen her tires tirelessly work to try to make Venice better with all you guys so that's it thanks guys. 1611 02:43:27.870 --> 02:43:31.200 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you so much, and what that will close public comment gym. 1612 02:43:32.490 --> 02:43:35.580 Daffodil Tyminski: And if you're done speaking in the public if you could lower your hands that'd be great. 1613 02:43:42.240 --> 02:43:42.870 jim murez: um. 1614 02:43:48.660 --> 02:43:49.710 jim murez: Okay, so. 1615 02:43:51.120 --> 02:43:51.630 Let me. 1616 02:43:52.980 --> 02:43:54.240 jim murez: Sharing the screen. 1617 02:43:56.910 --> 02:43:57.900 jim murez: The spreadsheet. 1618 02:44:03.360 --> 02:44:05.130 jim murez: let's see how do I do this. 1619 02:44:05.520 --> 02:44:06.570 click share. 1620 02:44:08.820 --> 02:44:09.210 jim murez: Okay. 1621 02:44:10.320 --> 02:44:18.570 jim murez: So what we're going to do, and before everybody starts asking questions about how's this going to work, I know Allah you had a question, maybe I can clarify it first. 1622 02:44:19.110 --> 02:44:35.730 jim murez: i'm going to go down the list of of board members i'm going to ask each of you to tell me who you would like for treasurer who you would like for Community officer and who you would like for. 1623 02:44:37.500 --> 02:44:50.040 jim murez: At that point, I am going to fill in a number of one or zero actually i'll just fill in the ones I won't fill in this arrows and, as I do that it will tally the votes down at the bottom. 1624 02:44:50.520 --> 02:45:00.720 jim murez: Once we're all done here, we will go back to the agenda, and I will fill in the names of the three people that got selected now do we have any questions about how that's going to work. 1625 02:45:03.840 --> 02:45:06.420 jim murez: Okay, not seeing that anybody's hand went up. 1626 02:45:08.310 --> 02:45:10.260 Daffodil Tyminski: There now there's one hand Jim. 1627 02:45:10.470 --> 02:45:11.970 jim murez: Okay, whose hands I can't see it. 1628 02:45:12.120 --> 02:45:14.070 Daffodil Tyminski: I believe it's Jay handle. 1629 02:45:15.000 --> 02:45:16.260 jim murez: Your head, if you have your hand up. 1630 02:45:16.380 --> 02:45:20.970 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh hi Jan and we've got le been as well, so go ahead Jay ask your question. 1631 02:45:21.780 --> 02:45:28.830 Jay Handal: So I just, I just wanted to respond, since a lot of things are said that you're actually not factual. 1632 02:45:29.010 --> 02:45:32.340 jim murez: Wait jj you've got your two minutes. 1633 02:45:32.460 --> 02:45:38.490 Jay Handal: But so did Helen fallon gym and she came in in common, as a Kennedy and me that. 1634 02:45:39.030 --> 02:45:42.000 jim murez: hold on hold on, I just want to be absolutely fair. 1635 02:45:43.320 --> 02:45:46.500 jim murez: That means that we have to now open this all back up again, she isn't. 1636 02:45:47.130 --> 02:45:48.990 jim murez: Public you're a member of the committee. 1637 02:45:49.590 --> 02:45:51.990 jim murez: If I open it up for you to start speaking and. 1638 02:45:51.990 --> 02:45:55.350 Jay Handal: Responding that's that's fine that's fine it's okay it's. 1639 02:45:55.380 --> 02:45:55.770 Okay. 1640 02:45:57.270 --> 02:45:59.460 jim murez: I just want to try and keep it as fair as possible. 1641 02:46:00.870 --> 02:46:03.780 jim murez: i'm allie you have your hand up go ahead what's your question. 1642 02:46:04.470 --> 02:46:17.490 Alley Bean: My question was just for the one Community officer that was trying to reach us by phone is that not possible only because it'd be great if we could hear from him, but I didn't know what happened with that um. 1643 02:46:18.780 --> 02:46:21.000 jim murez: I don't know that we never got it there's no. 1644 02:46:21.060 --> 02:46:23.610 Vicki Halliday: He said in the room he's he's on the list. 1645 02:46:23.970 --> 02:46:24.450 jim murez: Is he. 1646 02:46:24.660 --> 02:46:25.110 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes. 1647 02:46:25.860 --> 02:46:26.880 jim murez: This person zachary. 1648 02:46:27.330 --> 02:46:30.630 Vicki Halliday: zachary best is at the very bottom of the list you see. 1649 02:46:30.810 --> 02:46:34.500 jim murez: zach best okay yeah Okay, we can do that now I didn't see that i'm. 1650 02:46:34.620 --> 02:46:35.640 Alley Bean: Hello Hello. 1651 02:46:36.090 --> 02:46:36.510 Alley Bean: Thank you. 1652 02:46:37.500 --> 02:46:39.300 jim murez: Give me one second zach I need to. 1653 02:46:39.630 --> 02:46:40.890 Zack Best: hear yes sorry. 1654 02:46:42.600 --> 02:46:45.360 jim murez: that's okay just hang on one second one, second. 1655 02:46:45.540 --> 02:46:50.850 Zack Best: No problem yeah I was having some weird a computer difficulty here. 1656 02:46:53.250 --> 02:46:53.790 Zack Best: We go. 1657 02:46:54.180 --> 02:46:57.000 jim murez: sounds okay go ahead Zack please. 1658 02:46:58.860 --> 02:47:00.660 Zack Best: i'm sorry go ahead with. 1659 02:47:01.410 --> 02:47:03.570 jim murez: You introduce yourself tell us why you. 1660 02:47:05.580 --> 02:47:09.750 Zack Best: My name is zachary best i'm the general manager of the Venice beach bar. 1661 02:47:10.470 --> 02:47:14.790 Zack Best: On the boardwalk i've been working there for probably seven years. 1662 02:47:16.290 --> 02:47:30.000 Zack Best: I live down the street in the Windward circle i'm very involved in the Community, I even know Mike Jensen George Francisco. 1663 02:47:30.900 --> 02:47:51.180 Zack Best: i'm sure, a lot of the locals also will tell you that you know they know who I am and i'm extremely aware of the problems that are occurring in Venice and I just want to make it like you know more habitable environment, for you know not only. 1664 02:47:53.520 --> 02:47:58.710 Zack Best: us, but for visitors, especially since the pandemic. 1665 02:48:00.090 --> 02:48:01.740 Zack Best: As far as you know, homeless. 1666 02:48:04.110 --> 02:48:04.530 Zack Best: But. 1667 02:48:06.240 --> 02:48:10.530 Zack Best: i'd say that's pretty much it I just I just want to improve the Community. 1668 02:48:12.360 --> 02:48:12.930 Zack Best: and 1669 02:48:14.730 --> 02:48:17.550 Zack Best: yeah that's all I gotta say pretty much. 1670 02:48:18.270 --> 02:48:22.500 jim murez: Okay, thank you, sorry we were having difficulties getting you in here before. 1671 02:48:22.830 --> 02:48:26.760 Zack Best: yeah, no, no, it was a weird Internet issue, I was totally. 1672 02:48:27.990 --> 02:48:30.750 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah and I apologize capital I just didn't see you on there. 1673 02:48:31.230 --> 02:48:32.400 Zack Best: Oh yeah no no worries. 1674 02:48:32.730 --> 02:48:36.180 jim murez: And then, what about the last person Michelle Scott, did you show up. 1675 02:48:37.320 --> 02:48:38.790 jim murez: You did you need to raise your hand. 1676 02:48:39.660 --> 02:48:42.360 Daffodil Tyminski: I do not see her. 1677 02:48:43.830 --> 02:48:45.810 jim murez: he's got the eagle eye vicki do you see here. 1678 02:48:50.880 --> 02:48:54.300 Daffodil Tyminski: there's a Michelle hales on but I don't see Michelle Scott. 1679 02:48:54.840 --> 02:49:08.280 jim murez: yep Okay, so let me just see there's other hands up ellie you had your hand up did you want to put your hand down, did you get your question answered Thank you def do you have. 1680 02:49:08.850 --> 02:49:09.450 jim murez: You want to. 1681 02:49:10.470 --> 02:49:10.980 jim murez: speak. 1682 02:49:12.450 --> 02:49:13.980 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah le are you done. 1683 02:49:15.240 --> 02:49:16.440 jim murez: All you lower your hand yes. 1684 02:49:16.650 --> 02:49:17.370 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay sorry. 1685 02:49:17.580 --> 02:49:20.550 Alley Bean: asking about sac, and you got them gotcha um. 1686 02:49:20.730 --> 02:49:31.140 Daffodil Tyminski: I just wanted to say, I think what happened when we were going through the neighborhood grants and with Jay was grossly misrepresented, so I would urge No one to vote, based on that representation. 1687 02:49:32.490 --> 02:49:39.930 Daffodil Tyminski: In fact, I feel like we've had a steady stream of consistent mess representations throughout tonight on some of the public, comments and. 1688 02:49:40.500 --> 02:49:52.290 Daffodil Tyminski: it's a shame, because if people don't really know what's going on, they should just reach out and ask before making public proclamations, but particularly with respect to Jay he did a lot to help us he. 1689 02:49:53.700 --> 02:50:03.630 Daffodil Tyminski: navigated our budgets so that we were able to use as much as possible, and you know there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes, with the city and other things that. 1690 02:50:03.990 --> 02:50:13.530 Daffodil Tyminski: People in the public and sometimes people even who are on the committee are not privy to, so I would urge you to disregard the public comments besmirching Jay. 1691 02:50:14.040 --> 02:50:26.190 Daffodil Tyminski: I think he's been great he's on he's a stakeholder in Venice and he really knows his stuff almost better than no one i've ever met and working with the neighborhood Council over 1015 years. 1692 02:50:28.140 --> 02:50:30.840 jim murez: Thank you definitely i'll you put your hand back up did you have something. 1693 02:50:31.410 --> 02:50:38.640 Alley Bean: I didn't realize that we're so we're allowed to make we're allowed to make comments about people running I didn't know that, so I. 1694 02:50:39.120 --> 02:50:45.030 jim murez: Will making comments about getting ready to take a vote on on an item on the agenda, which is selecting three people so yeah you. 1695 02:50:45.030 --> 02:50:47.550 jim murez: can say that about selecting the three people, if you like. 1696 02:50:48.030 --> 02:51:03.360 Alley Bean: Alright, so maybe maybe I don't understand apatow but I did think that it was true that we didn't use all the amount of money in the budget, and so, if i'm and I just want to make a comment it's it's nothing disparaging about Jay, but I feel like. 1697 02:51:04.560 --> 02:51:09.060 Alley Bean: Since he came on and I didn't know that he lived in Venice, I thought that he was not a Venetian. 1698 02:51:10.080 --> 02:51:23.520 Alley Bean: But I feel like he takes over the meeting a lot Jim and I don't I feel it's disrespectful towards you so I I worry about that in the future, because it will treasure position it's not daffodil who's the Vice President. 1699 02:51:24.090 --> 02:51:29.310 Alley Bean: So that's just something that is disturbed me and I wanted to voice that because I haven't understood it. 1700 02:51:30.360 --> 02:51:35.850 Alley Bean: Just felt feel like there's a amount of disrespect towards the office of the person running the meeting. 1701 02:51:40.770 --> 02:51:49.920 jim murez: amount of money that goes back to the city has not yet been resolved the city is still sitting on several of our requests that they have not yet. 1702 02:51:50.550 --> 02:51:57.600 jim murez: responded to that effect, one department has said yes, the items can be funded and the other department has said. 1703 02:51:57.900 --> 02:52:11.310 jim murez: Ask the other department so it's still up in the air, and I know he's still working on it, so any anybody pointing the finger at saying that we didn't spend all of our money is premature vicki go ahead, you have your handle. 1704 02:52:12.600 --> 02:52:20.460 Vicki Halliday: Yes, I just wanted to put in a word, for Jay since he got here, and I know he had a lot to do with right at first just sorting things out. 1705 02:52:20.910 --> 02:52:36.450 Vicki Halliday: But Jay became an immediate team player, he has been terrific to deal with he's always accessible he's never disparaging of what one knows or doesn't know he is not critical and. 1706 02:52:37.470 --> 02:52:39.570 Vicki Halliday: I say vote for Jay Thank you. 1707 02:52:41.160 --> 02:52:43.620 jim murez: Okay anybody else had their hand up at this point. 1708 02:52:43.740 --> 02:52:44.730 jim murez: or can we take the vote. 1709 02:52:46.380 --> 02:52:47.010 jim murez: diner. 1710 02:52:48.210 --> 02:52:49.890 jim murez: Oh, it was there and it's gone again. 1711 02:52:50.820 --> 02:52:52.590 jim murez: This was up and then down okay. 1712 02:52:52.950 --> 02:52:54.330 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I see no handsome. 1713 02:52:54.540 --> 02:52:55.800 jim murez: I don't see any hands either. 1714 02:52:57.360 --> 02:53:01.050 jim murez: Let me go back and share the voting screen and let's go through the list. 1715 02:53:03.480 --> 02:53:09.180 jim murez: And remember we're not talking about anything during the boat it's just which three people do you want. 1716 02:53:10.680 --> 02:53:11.850 jim murez: The wrong scroll been. 1717 02:53:16.410 --> 02:53:17.670 jim murez: daffodil, how do you vote. 1718 02:53:18.510 --> 02:53:19.890 Daffodil Tyminski: I will look for Jay. 1719 02:53:21.270 --> 02:53:23.850 Daffodil Tyminski: zachary best and Christopher mclean. 1720 02:53:27.540 --> 02:53:28.260 jim murez: Thank you. 1721 02:53:28.410 --> 02:53:29.730 jim murez: Melissa, how do you vote. 1722 02:53:30.600 --> 02:53:31.860 melissa diner : Jay handle. 1723 02:53:33.450 --> 02:53:34.560 melissa diner : zachary best. 1724 02:53:36.480 --> 02:53:37.140 melissa diner : Christopher my. 1725 02:53:42.390 --> 02:53:43.560 jim murez: Day, how do you vote. 1726 02:53:50.820 --> 02:53:51.840 jim murez: Day, have you. 1727 02:53:51.990 --> 02:53:52.830 Jim Robb: heard of these right. 1728 02:53:53.640 --> 02:53:56.250 jim murez: yeah you know I think he's allowed to I don't know I guess. 1729 02:53:58.080 --> 02:54:00.090 jim murez: that's a good question, he is. 1730 02:54:00.780 --> 02:54:01.920 Daffodil Tyminski: In the past we've allowed. 1731 02:54:02.550 --> 02:54:07.590 Daffodil Tyminski: People I would prefer to have it on this, but we have in the past, allow the person running to vote for themselves. 1732 02:54:07.770 --> 02:54:10.680 Ivan: Yes, of course, everybody has the right to vote. 1733 02:54:10.980 --> 02:54:12.720 jim murez: yeah okay Jay, how do you vote. 1734 02:54:16.110 --> 02:54:17.490 jim murez: hey Jay i'll come back to you. 1735 02:54:18.120 --> 02:54:19.260 jim murez: Michael, how do you vote. 1736 02:54:27.870 --> 02:54:30.540 Michael Jensen: Sorry, failed to hit the mute buttons. 1737 02:54:32.310 --> 02:54:35.520 Michael Jensen: Jay handle zach best Chris mcclain. 1738 02:54:40.080 --> 02:54:41.130 jim murez: Mickey have you vote. 1739 02:54:42.510 --> 02:54:46.260 Vicki Halliday: i'm Jay zachary best and Chris mclean. 1740 02:54:50.940 --> 02:54:51.900 jim murez: rudo, how do you vote. 1741 02:54:52.740 --> 02:54:59.220 Bruno Hernandez: i'm undecided on treasure, but for Community officer zach best and Christopher mclean. 1742 02:55:01.950 --> 02:55:04.380 jim murez: And Sema she's not here. 1743 02:55:05.550 --> 02:55:10.290 jim murez: NICO NICO never showed up Jim rob, how do you vote. 1744 02:55:11.520 --> 02:55:12.810 Jim Robb: Voting Helen solid. 1745 02:55:14.730 --> 02:55:16.560 Jim Robb: Voting Chris darlin. 1746 02:55:18.300 --> 02:55:22.050 Jim Robb: And I am voting Alexander Carl. 1747 02:55:23.940 --> 02:55:24.510 jim murez: Thank you. 1748 02:55:26.700 --> 02:55:31.680 jim murez: This fake can see a stand Muhammad we don't have anybody that's voting in that position Jason. 1749 02:55:32.190 --> 02:55:34.470 Jason Sugars: Have you bow bow bow for Helen family. 1750 02:55:37.980 --> 02:55:39.690 jim murez: And Community officer. 1751 02:55:40.710 --> 02:55:42.210 Jason Sugars: For the rest, up another time. 1752 02:55:44.730 --> 02:55:45.720 Jason Sugars: Oh kind of thing. 1753 02:55:47.610 --> 02:55:49.740 jim murez: i'm allie how are you voting. 1754 02:55:52.230 --> 02:55:53.400 Alley Bean: For Helen fallon. 1755 02:55:54.870 --> 02:55:57.930 Alley Bean: Chris dolan and Alexander Carl. 1756 02:56:03.960 --> 02:56:06.840 jim murez: hi is your MIC bravo. 1757 02:56:08.730 --> 02:56:11.850 Mike Bravo: i'm waiting for Patricia Helen felon. 1758 02:56:14.400 --> 02:56:15.690 Mike Bravo: Community officer. 1759 02:56:16.710 --> 02:56:17.700 Mike Bravo: Michelle Scott. 1760 02:56:19.260 --> 02:56:21.210 Mike Bravo: And upc. 1761 02:56:22.890 --> 02:56:24.000 Mike Bravo: Alexandra call. 1762 02:56:26.610 --> 02:56:28.560 jim murez: Okay, solid out how are you voting. 1763 02:56:30.390 --> 02:56:34.530 Soledad Ursua: For Helen felon zappa best and Chris mclean. 1764 02:56:40.620 --> 02:56:41.400 jim murez: cj. 1765 02:56:44.760 --> 02:56:50.790 CJ Cole: Hello Alan zach best and Christopher mclean. 1766 02:56:55.200 --> 02:56:57.300 jim murez: over here Elizabeth play. 1767 02:56:59.040 --> 02:57:03.120 Elizabeth c: i'll vote for Jay handle zachary best and Christopher mclean. 1768 02:57:04.950 --> 02:57:06.930 jim murez: too fast, but it was on the wrong line. 1769 02:57:07.800 --> 02:57:09.150 Elizabeth c: handle best mcclain. 1770 02:57:12.090 --> 02:57:14.790 jim murez: play Robert, how do you vote. 1771 02:57:19.050 --> 02:57:21.870 robertthibodeau: Sorry i'm all good for Jay. 1772 02:57:24.480 --> 02:57:26.370 robertthibodeau: Although for. 1773 02:57:27.870 --> 02:57:28.590 robertthibodeau: zach. 1774 02:57:30.600 --> 02:57:33.720 robertthibodeau: And although for Chris. 1775 02:57:37.470 --> 02:57:37.980 jim murez: Okay. 1776 02:57:38.010 --> 02:57:38.580 Mike Bravo: Clark and. 1777 02:57:40.080 --> 02:57:45.750 Clark Brown: i'll vote for Jay handle and I will abstain as to Community officer and the loop deck Member. 1778 02:57:46.800 --> 02:57:47.550 jim murez: Okay. 1779 02:57:48.720 --> 02:57:51.720 jim murez: There was somebody up here oh Jay you're here, are you here Jay. 1780 02:57:51.840 --> 02:57:59.430 Jay Handal: Yes, Sam I vote for myself as well for zachary and I vote for Chris mclean. 1781 02:58:01.980 --> 02:58:06.150 jim murez: Okay i'm gonna vote for Jay. 1782 02:58:07.380 --> 02:58:10.140 jim murez: Chris and Alexander. 1783 02:58:11.220 --> 02:58:12.180 jim murez: And so. 1784 02:58:13.860 --> 02:58:15.840 jim murez: that's down at the bottom, we have a tally. 1785 02:58:17.610 --> 02:58:25.320 jim murez: It looks like Jay zach and Chris are the new members. 1786 02:58:26.520 --> 02:58:28.230 Alley Bean: um I have a question. 1787 02:58:28.380 --> 02:58:32.760 Alley Bean: Yes, i'm is it by number or I thought it had to be. 1788 02:58:34.740 --> 02:58:40.620 Alley Bean: That I can't remember the word, but you know, like the same as a core and that it had to be. 1789 02:58:41.070 --> 02:58:43.290 jim murez: No it's just a simple majority. 1790 02:58:43.710 --> 02:58:45.000 Alley Bean: Are you sure about that. 1791 02:58:46.800 --> 02:58:48.030 Ivan: Yes, yes. 1792 02:58:48.480 --> 02:58:48.810 Okay. 1793 02:58:51.150 --> 02:58:51.870 jim murez: Okay. 1794 02:58:53.370 --> 02:58:55.320 jim murez: So let's go back here. 1795 02:58:56.820 --> 02:58:59.040 jim murez: And this is Jay. 1796 02:59:02.820 --> 02:59:03.270 jim murez: This. 1797 02:59:03.390 --> 02:59:04.650 jim murez: Is zach. 1798 02:59:07.980 --> 02:59:10.140 jim murez: tch my son's belson. 1799 02:59:14.190 --> 02:59:16.740 jim murez: And this was Chris. 1800 02:59:20.700 --> 02:59:21.150 jim murez: Okay. 1801 02:59:23.850 --> 02:59:31.500 jim murez: We don't need to make her emotion that boats already been taken so that's how it came out but I guess we, we need to really a. 1802 02:59:35.550 --> 02:59:35.910 Ivan: lot. 1803 02:59:39.900 --> 02:59:43.380 jim murez: um okay moving right along next item. 1804 02:59:45.600 --> 02:59:48.450 Ivan: Jim do you happen to have the oath of office. 1805 02:59:50.640 --> 02:59:52.860 jim murez: No, no, I don't. 1806 02:59:53.610 --> 02:59:55.380 Ivan: Ask Melissa she may have it. 1807 02:59:56.100 --> 02:59:58.080 jim murez: listed, you have the oath of office handy. 1808 02:59:59.130 --> 03:00:00.660 melissa diner : yeah I can get it hold on. 1809 03:00:00.930 --> 03:00:03.630 jim murez: Why don't you pull it up, and then we can swear these two people in. 1810 03:00:04.080 --> 03:00:04.410 yeah. 1811 03:00:08.220 --> 03:00:12.720 jim murez: They can vote on well I don't know, can they vote on. 1812 03:00:12.810 --> 03:00:13.470 Ivan: Anything yes. 1813 03:00:13.740 --> 03:00:19.800 Ivan: They they're they're on board, they can vote on whenever whenever the wake it. 1814 03:00:19.860 --> 03:00:22.110 Ivan: Up they haven't had the training. 1815 03:00:22.830 --> 03:00:23.610 Ivan: They can't fold. 1816 03:00:23.940 --> 03:00:29.130 Ivan: Right jake vote the other two I don't know if they've taken Essex and sign the code of conduct. 1817 03:00:29.340 --> 03:00:31.050 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Right in jail, no Hello. 1818 03:00:31.410 --> 03:00:34.830 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Yes, since they've been appointed now as board members. 1819 03:00:34.890 --> 03:00:43.920 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Yes, they're not able to vote for funding items, they can still count towards for them, but we give them a grace period until we can get the new rosters. 1820 03:00:44.370 --> 03:00:55.620 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): With their information so that we can add them and give them the necessary cornerstone login information to complete their training, specifically the code of conduct, but because they've been appointed, they can vote on non funding items for this meeting. 1821 03:00:56.100 --> 03:00:57.090 jim murez: So it's only. 1822 03:00:57.150 --> 03:00:59.550 robertthibodeau: two out of three of them are committee members you're not. 1823 03:01:00.750 --> 03:01:02.340 Ivan: ready or why not say. 1824 03:01:02.340 --> 03:01:04.650 jim murez: differently body just a moment please. 1825 03:01:05.430 --> 03:01:06.660 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Oh, their committee members. 1826 03:01:06.750 --> 03:01:19.290 jim murez: Only just a moment please it only affects one person zachary zachary will be able to vote on non funding items soon as we have the. 1827 03:01:20.460 --> 03:01:23.760 jim murez: thing that has to be read to a Melissa can you read it to that that yet. 1828 03:01:28.170 --> 03:01:28.860 jim murez: Exactly you're. 1829 03:01:29.250 --> 03:01:30.390 melissa diner : Trying to Google it. 1830 03:01:30.420 --> 03:01:39.570 jim murez: Give me a SEC yeah he will be it, you know as we go through this just pay attention loop pack members don't vote at this point, anyway, this days already. 1831 03:01:40.890 --> 03:01:43.530 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I also have a copy, if you want me to. 1832 03:01:43.920 --> 03:01:45.570 jim murez: yeah just go ahead and read it, if you want. 1833 03:01:46.050 --> 03:01:46.800 melissa diner : yeah thanks. 1834 03:01:47.850 --> 03:01:49.320 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): No problem one moment. 1835 03:02:09.600 --> 03:02:10.140 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Okay. 1836 03:02:18.570 --> 03:02:18.870 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Oh. 1837 03:02:20.760 --> 03:02:21.870 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Okay downloading. 1838 03:02:28.500 --> 03:02:31.170 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): So okay i'm. 1839 03:02:32.220 --> 03:02:33.990 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Are the Members here and ready to. 1840 03:02:36.390 --> 03:02:37.020 jim murez: follow. 1841 03:02:39.930 --> 03:02:42.600 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I pledge to represent my neighborhood with dignity. 1842 03:02:44.070 --> 03:02:45.540 jim murez: You guys need to repeat this. 1843 03:02:46.590 --> 03:02:47.670 jim murez: Jay and zach. 1844 03:02:53.790 --> 03:02:56.280 Jay Handal: I pledge to represent my community with dignity. 1845 03:02:57.060 --> 03:02:58.320 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): integrity and pride. 1846 03:02:58.740 --> 03:02:59.760 Jay Handal: integrity and pride. 1847 03:03:00.630 --> 03:03:02.820 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I will encourage other points of view. 1848 03:03:03.300 --> 03:03:05.370 Jay Handal: I will encourage other points of view. 1849 03:03:05.910 --> 03:03:07.680 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Even when they differ from my own. 1850 03:03:08.070 --> 03:03:09.870 Jay Handal: Even when they differ from my own. 1851 03:03:10.920 --> 03:03:13.260 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I will respect value. 1852 03:03:14.550 --> 03:03:16.140 Jay Handal: I will expect value. 1853 03:03:16.620 --> 03:03:18.330 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): and consider everyone's opinion. 1854 03:03:18.750 --> 03:03:20.430 Jay Handal: and consider everyone's opinion. 1855 03:03:20.970 --> 03:03:23.100 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I will find the good in my neighborhood. 1856 03:03:23.940 --> 03:03:25.560 Jay Handal: will find a good in my neighborhood. 1857 03:03:26.490 --> 03:03:28.050 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Praise it and promote it. 1858 03:03:28.410 --> 03:03:31.920 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): and praise it and promoting to my neighbors. 1859 03:03:33.090 --> 03:03:33.930 Jay Handal: And my neighbors. 1860 03:03:34.380 --> 03:03:37.170 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): And to neighborhoods throughout the city of Los Angeles. 1861 03:03:39.030 --> 03:03:40.380 Jay Handal: city of Los Angeles. 1862 03:03:41.010 --> 03:03:43.230 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I play the best of my ability. 1863 03:03:44.040 --> 03:03:45.240 Jay Handal: To the best of my ability. 1864 03:03:46.890 --> 03:03:49.110 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): All right, both taken. 1865 03:03:49.560 --> 03:03:53.070 jim murez: I don't know if zachary is still here or not he didn't participate in that. 1866 03:03:56.160 --> 03:03:57.390 jim murez: He may have dropped off. 1867 03:03:58.290 --> 03:04:00.180 Daffodil Tyminski: it's definitely I may have. 1868 03:04:01.710 --> 03:04:05.160 Daffodil Tyminski: I may have limited everyone's ability to say. 1869 03:04:06.870 --> 03:04:08.490 Zack Best: yeah can you hear me now. 1870 03:04:08.970 --> 03:04:09.420 yeah. 1871 03:04:11.040 --> 03:04:15.270 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah sorry about that I unmuted everybody when we went to the board comment. 1872 03:04:15.570 --> 03:04:19.500 Zack Best: yeah yeah but uh yeah follow along. 1873 03:04:20.700 --> 03:04:24.540 jim murez: Just a second i'm promoting you to be a panelist now that you're a board member. 1874 03:04:25.710 --> 03:04:27.750 jim murez: You have to accept that there you go. 1875 03:04:32.040 --> 03:04:33.720 jim murez: You want to do that, one more time. 1876 03:04:34.620 --> 03:04:36.360 jim murez: And zach you need to unmute yourself. 1877 03:04:41.340 --> 03:04:42.870 jim murez: back you need to unmute yourself. 1878 03:04:44.400 --> 03:04:44.760 Zack Best: You. 1879 03:04:46.770 --> 03:04:47.460 Zack Best: can hear me now. 1880 03:04:47.700 --> 03:04:48.960 jim murez: Yes, and. 1881 03:04:49.140 --> 03:04:51.570 jim murez: And pretty can you read that one more time, so he can repeat. 1882 03:04:52.290 --> 03:04:52.980 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): No problem. 1883 03:04:54.000 --> 03:04:56.460 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I pledge to represent my neighborhood with dignity. 1884 03:04:57.090 --> 03:04:59.670 Zack Best: A pledge to represent my neighborhood with dignity. 1885 03:05:00.120 --> 03:05:01.560 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): integrity and pride. 1886 03:05:01.920 --> 03:05:03.030 Zack Best: integrity and bread. 1887 03:05:03.750 --> 03:05:05.670 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I will encourage other points of view. 1888 03:05:06.180 --> 03:05:08.130 Zack Best: I will encourage you. 1889 03:05:08.880 --> 03:05:10.560 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Even when they differ from my own. 1890 03:05:11.070 --> 03:05:12.780 Zack Best: Even when they different from my own. 1891 03:05:13.500 --> 03:05:15.480 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I will respect value. 1892 03:05:16.170 --> 03:05:17.880 Zack Best: I will respect value. 1893 03:05:18.450 --> 03:05:20.310 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): and consider everyone's opinion. 1894 03:05:20.730 --> 03:05:22.380 Zack Best: and consider everyone's opinion. 1895 03:05:22.920 --> 03:05:24.780 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I will find the good in my neighborhood. 1896 03:05:25.320 --> 03:05:27.150 Zack Best: I will find the good in my neighborhood. 1897 03:05:27.810 --> 03:05:29.670 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): and praise it and promote it. 1898 03:05:29.940 --> 03:05:31.590 Zack Best: in prison and promote it. 1899 03:05:32.310 --> 03:05:33.330 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): To my neighbors. 1900 03:05:33.810 --> 03:05:34.680 Zack Best: To my neighbors. 1901 03:05:35.130 --> 03:05:37.890 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): And to neighborhoods throughout the city of Los Angeles. 1902 03:05:38.160 --> 03:05:41.730 Zack Best: When to neighborhoods throughout the city of Los Angeles. 1903 03:05:42.210 --> 03:05:44.550 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): I pledge to do this to the best of my ability. 1904 03:05:44.970 --> 03:05:48.150 Zack Best: uploads do this to to the best of my ability. 1905 03:05:49.110 --> 03:05:50.490 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): All right, i'll take him. 1906 03:05:51.090 --> 03:05:52.920 jim murez: Okay, thank you very much zachary Thank you. 1907 03:05:53.550 --> 03:05:54.240 Zack Best: Thank you. 1908 03:05:54.510 --> 03:05:57.570 jim murez: um so exactly you need to stay in the meeting now. 1909 03:05:57.840 --> 03:05:59.040 jim murez: yeah and. 1910 03:06:00.060 --> 03:06:03.750 jim murez: As we go through these things you're going to need to vote but i'm gonna have to. 1911 03:06:03.870 --> 03:06:06.360 jim murez: try and keep track of how you're voting because. 1912 03:06:06.420 --> 03:06:09.150 jim murez: We don't do part of the agenda at this point. 1913 03:06:10.140 --> 03:06:13.050 Alley Bean: I had my hand raised, I have a question. 1914 03:06:13.950 --> 03:06:15.300 jim murez: Yes, Sally go ahead. 1915 03:06:15.480 --> 03:06:32.610 Alley Bean: um well, while Freddie is still here just I just want to make, I just want to understand the bylaw I because I thought that it had to be a majority vote by the remaining elected board officers, which would mean that you have invoice 10 votes. 1916 03:06:33.210 --> 03:06:44.850 Alley Bean: To pass, not just a majority, but of the elected module the elected so is that not true Freddie don't don't you need 10 votes to get elected. 1917 03:06:50.700 --> 03:06:57.000 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): i'm so sorry i'm specifically you're trying to fill vacancies correct on this. 1918 03:06:57.300 --> 03:06:58.620 Alley Bean: You know i'm talking about that yeah. 1919 03:06:58.890 --> 03:07:00.060 jim murez: The book is correct. 1920 03:07:00.690 --> 03:07:04.140 Alley Bean: Yes, and Community board officer and loop back yeah. 1921 03:07:04.650 --> 03:07:06.030 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Okay, so. 1922 03:07:07.290 --> 03:07:15.090 Freddy Cupen-Ames (He/Him/His/El): Under your bylaws for a vacant seats i'm opening up right now, your bylaws. 1923 03:07:15.420 --> 03:07:18.600 jim murez: Either ivan's already answered it alley and. 1924 03:07:18.960 --> 03:07:20.310 Alley Bean: I wanted to get it from Freddie. 1925 03:07:20.370 --> 03:07:30.660 jim murez: yeah, but you can do that offline and file a grievance if you don't like what the results are we don't need to take freddie's time for this, we certainly don't need to take everybody in the public and on the board if you don't understand it's. 1926 03:07:30.690 --> 03:07:32.160 Alley Bean: pretty important issue, Jim. 1927 03:07:33.330 --> 03:07:37.950 jim murez: parliamentarian and he is the one that has said, this is how the board. 1928 03:07:38.520 --> 03:07:39.750 jim murez: it's to respond and. 1929 03:07:40.110 --> 03:07:42.690 Alley Bean: that's what we're doing I can't ask a question. 1930 03:07:44.910 --> 03:07:45.300 melissa diner : About. 1931 03:07:45.540 --> 03:07:53.250 jim murez: Do it offline we've done this many times before this isn't the first time around, this is it's always been done the same way. 1932 03:07:55.320 --> 03:07:56.520 jim murez: allie you got it. 1933 03:07:57.900 --> 03:07:58.320 jim murez: Thank you. 1934 03:08:00.420 --> 03:08:01.170 let's move on. 1935 03:08:03.540 --> 03:08:03.750 Alley Bean: it's. 1936 03:08:04.050 --> 03:08:09.420 Alley Bean: Not it's not a great thing when you've got a lot of people listening gym for transparency people that are in. 1937 03:08:09.570 --> 03:08:10.830 Alley Bean: The care about this stuff. 1938 03:08:11.130 --> 03:08:14.880 jim murez: And that was my understanding that it's in the bylaws alley just. 1939 03:08:14.880 --> 03:08:16.860 Alley Bean: What i'm talking about the bylaws. 1940 03:08:17.160 --> 03:08:26.460 jim murez: apply laws, make it very clear and Ivan is the person that is supposed to be the person who interprets it not Freddie. 1941 03:08:27.090 --> 03:08:39.690 jim murez: Freddie works for done he doesn't work for us he's not our parliamentarian our parliamentarian is Ivan Ivan his specified how it is, if you believe something's been done wrong by our parliamentarian file a report with the city. 1942 03:08:40.860 --> 03:08:42.120 jim murez: that's the procedure. 1943 03:08:43.260 --> 03:08:43.770 jim murez: Okay. 1944 03:08:44.400 --> 03:08:48.120 jim murez: I don't have to necessarily agree with it, but that's the way it works. 1945 03:08:49.200 --> 03:08:49.440 jim murez: Take. 1946 03:08:50.070 --> 03:08:52.350 Jim Robb: It I can't speak on this now, I guess right. 1947 03:08:52.380 --> 03:08:55.020 jim murez: No we're done with it we're moving on. 1948 03:08:56.730 --> 03:08:59.280 jim murez: Item number 19 the CSI can. 1949 03:09:01.110 --> 03:09:03.540 jim murez: station like Council file. 1950 03:09:06.300 --> 03:09:07.530 jim murez: Best to. 1951 03:09:08.340 --> 03:09:11.160 jim murez: renewal of a lease for bridge housing. 1952 03:09:11.490 --> 03:09:16.860 jim murez: I have to recuse myself from this and i'm going to be turning the gavel over to. 1953 03:09:17.760 --> 03:09:21.480 jim murez: Jay he will be conducting this item. 1954 03:09:23.160 --> 03:09:26.910 jim murez: I will expose the people are that are allowed to vote. 1955 03:09:27.390 --> 03:09:33.030 jim murez: I am going to mark myself as recused I believe that. 1956 03:09:33.150 --> 03:09:35.550 jim murez: vicki said she was recusing. 1957 03:09:36.000 --> 03:09:36.810 Michael Jensen: holiday items. 1958 03:09:37.440 --> 03:09:39.990 Michael Jensen: as well, can I ask you a question, while you're marking people. 1959 03:09:40.350 --> 03:09:40.950 jim murez: Yes, great. 1960 03:09:40.980 --> 03:09:42.960 Michael Jensen: Can we make a public comments. 1961 03:09:44.520 --> 03:09:54.150 jim murez: Yes, we are allowed to make a public comment, but we have to make the public comment during the public comment period we are allowed the same rights. 1962 03:09:54.180 --> 03:09:55.710 Michael Jensen: As the general public okay. 1963 03:09:56.100 --> 03:09:59.970 Michael Jensen: Well, if someone who is not recused contests anyone public comment begins. 1964 03:10:00.330 --> 03:10:00.900 i'm. 1965 03:10:01.920 --> 03:10:03.060 Michael Jensen: holly i'll be out. 1966 03:10:03.630 --> 03:10:10.050 jim murez: yeah right, and they have to announce it, I believe that that we're all of the people that said that there oh so with that said she was refused. 1967 03:10:11.100 --> 03:10:11.970 Daffodil Tyminski: And daffodil. 1968 03:10:12.390 --> 03:10:14.070 jim murez: And I already yes recused. 1969 03:10:14.130 --> 03:10:15.690 Daffodil Tyminski: But I would like to make a public comment. 1970 03:10:16.560 --> 03:10:21.540 Ivan: All right, Kim you're supposed to be recused and you're hurt you're running this thing. 1971 03:10:23.340 --> 03:10:29.370 jim murez: Then i'm not running anything I just marking that at the beginning of the meeting said they were. 1972 03:10:29.370 --> 03:10:34.320 jim murez: recruiting and i'm leaving the names on the screen so Jay has a way. 1973 03:10:35.190 --> 03:10:35.790 Ivan: To find. 1974 03:10:39.030 --> 03:10:39.570 melissa diner : You by. 1975 03:10:39.600 --> 03:10:40.680 jim murez: Risk or. 1976 03:10:40.770 --> 03:10:43.890 jim murez: Jim I interrupting. 1977 03:10:44.610 --> 03:10:46.320 Ivan: Well you're not letting me finish here. 1978 03:10:46.650 --> 03:10:50.040 Ivan: You need to take a new role all. 1979 03:10:51.300 --> 03:10:53.310 Ivan: People can recuse themselves. 1980 03:10:53.790 --> 03:10:56.640 Ivan: You should we be accepting people's recusal. 1981 03:10:57.540 --> 03:11:02.640 Jay Handal: Agreements okay let's go guys, we can argue over this all night. 1982 03:11:02.820 --> 03:11:05.730 jim murez: yeah you're also going to have somebody to be. 1983 03:11:07.830 --> 03:11:10.680 Jay Handal: yeah who wants to be my cohort here. 1984 03:11:12.660 --> 03:11:12.870 jim murez: I. 1985 03:11:14.130 --> 03:11:18.030 Jay Handal: upgrade me, so I can do what I need to do on here. 1986 03:11:20.100 --> 03:11:20.670 Jay Handal: Either way. 1987 03:11:23.130 --> 03:11:23.970 Jay Handal: But where to go. 1988 03:11:27.120 --> 03:11:27.600 Jay Handal: Okay. 1989 03:11:31.110 --> 03:11:32.520 Jim Robb: awesome okay your emotion Jay. 1990 03:11:33.060 --> 03:11:34.260 Jay Handal: Okay, here we go. 1991 03:11:35.100 --> 03:11:35.580 Jim Robb: let's go. 1992 03:11:36.510 --> 03:11:48.420 Jay Handal: first thing we're gonna do is we're going to take we're going to actually do a roll call to make sure we have quorum to hear their side, so I have Jim recuse daffodil recuse Melissa. 1993 03:11:49.320 --> 03:11:51.120 melissa diner : yeah i'm accusing and process. 1994 03:11:51.510 --> 03:11:52.290 Jay Handal: Please mark. 1995 03:11:52.380 --> 03:12:03.900 Jay Handal: Melissa as recuse somebody who has access to it, thank you i'm here vicki has recused Bruno you're here. 1996 03:12:05.520 --> 03:12:06.630 Bruno Hernandez: Yes, i'm here sorry. 1997 03:12:07.080 --> 03:12:07.770 James. 1998 03:12:09.030 --> 03:12:09.510 Jim Robb: that's me. 1999 03:12:09.870 --> 03:12:11.370 Jay Handal: And if I say you're here and you're going to. 2000 03:12:11.370 --> 03:12:11.880 Bruno Hernandez: recuse. 2001 03:12:11.910 --> 03:12:13.410 Jay Handal: Please tell me Jason. 2002 03:12:14.190 --> 03:12:15.870 Jason Sugars: i'm here olly. 2003 03:12:19.560 --> 03:12:19.980 Jay Handal: olly. 2004 03:12:21.060 --> 03:12:21.450 Jim Robb: olly. 2005 03:12:22.890 --> 03:12:24.300 Alley Bean: Here Mike. 2006 03:12:27.060 --> 03:12:27.780 Jay Handal: Mike bravo. 2007 03:12:31.110 --> 03:12:31.890 Jay Handal: Mike bravo. 2008 03:12:35.340 --> 03:12:37.410 Jay Handal: Is Mike bravo in the House. 2009 03:12:41.550 --> 03:12:45.270 Jay Handal: If Mike bravo does an answer will have to mark him as absent. 2010 03:12:47.280 --> 03:12:48.090 Jay Handal: Mike bravo. 2011 03:12:49.920 --> 03:12:51.840 Jay Handal: Come on Mike you will hear. 2012 03:12:53.190 --> 03:12:55.170 Jay Handal: Okay, please mark m is absent. 2013 03:12:58.980 --> 03:13:00.420 Jay Handal: Solar that is recused. 2014 03:13:02.970 --> 03:13:03.900 Jay Handal: cj. 2015 03:13:07.800 --> 03:13:08.430 Jay Handal: cj. 2016 03:13:12.150 --> 03:13:12.840 CJ Cole: i'm here. 2017 03:13:13.050 --> 03:13:15.030 Jay Handal: Thank you Elizabeth. 2018 03:13:18.030 --> 03:13:18.390 Elizabeth c: here. 2019 03:13:19.380 --> 03:13:20.940 robertthibodeau: Robert here. 2020 03:13:21.630 --> 03:13:22.980 Clark Brown: Clark there. 2021 03:13:23.580 --> 03:13:24.930 Jay Handal: Michael is recuse. 2022 03:13:29.460 --> 03:13:33.930 Jay Handal: And my and we have zach zach is our newest member. 2023 03:13:34.590 --> 03:13:38.820 Jim Robb: Here zach welcome to the welcome to the show man. 2024 03:13:39.510 --> 03:13:39.990 Zack Best: Thank you. 2025 03:13:40.200 --> 03:13:42.060 Jim Robb: i'm pretty sure it's a wild ride my. 2026 03:13:42.060 --> 03:13:44.100 Zack Best: friends, I see the. 2027 03:13:45.360 --> 03:13:46.260 Zack Best: Blood via park. 2028 03:13:46.470 --> 03:13:48.810 Jay Handal: nolan back one more time Mike bravo. 2029 03:13:52.620 --> 03:13:53.190 Jay Handal: Okay. 2030 03:13:53.250 --> 03:13:54.150 So we have. 2031 03:13:57.840 --> 03:13:59.430 Jay Handal: Active to be here. 2032 03:14:02.160 --> 03:14:41.850 Jay Handal: Melissa you did recuse yourself, so that leaves us with 123456789 so when someone double check my math 123456789 so, unfortunately, that means we do not have quorum to be able to hear this item, so this item will not be heard tonight, for lack of quorum. 2033 03:14:43.170 --> 03:14:49.020 Jay Handal: Jim if you can come back and make a note in there, that this item is being. 2034 03:14:50.190 --> 03:14:52.230 Jay Handal: postponed due to lack of quorum. 2035 03:14:55.680 --> 03:14:57.570 Ivan: No it's not been postponed trey. 2036 03:14:58.920 --> 03:15:00.240 Ivan: it's not being heard. 2037 03:15:00.510 --> 03:15:01.050 Jay Handal: it's not being. 2038 03:15:01.140 --> 03:15:07.950 Ivan: someone wants to make well someone could make a motion to postpone it, but because we don't automatically. 2039 03:15:08.160 --> 03:15:09.690 Jay Handal: We don't have quorum we can't do. 2040 03:15:09.690 --> 03:15:11.850 Ivan: Anything you can't make a motion to postpone. 2041 03:15:14.220 --> 03:15:15.750 Jay Handal: yeah the item will not be heard. 2042 03:15:16.080 --> 03:15:16.980 Ivan: that's about right. 2043 03:15:17.490 --> 03:15:22.710 Jay Handal: We only have nine people we don't have quorum the item will not be heard, Jim yours. 2044 03:15:23.700 --> 03:15:24.420 Come back. 2045 03:15:26.400 --> 03:15:27.900 Jay Handal: Somebody texts Jim. 2046 03:15:32.430 --> 03:15:32.910 Jay Handal: Jim. 2047 03:15:36.030 --> 03:15:36.480 Jay Handal: yeah. 2048 03:15:46.140 --> 03:15:47.640 Jay Handal: Has anyone seen Jim. 2049 03:15:47.880 --> 03:15:48.480 jim murez: i'm back. 2050 03:15:48.810 --> 03:15:53.520 Jay Handal: Okay item is post phone, we only have not postpone item is. 2051 03:15:53.760 --> 03:15:57.120 Jay Handal: Not being heard for lack of a quorum, we only have nine. 2052 03:15:58.470 --> 03:16:00.270 Ivan: it's not being postponed. 2053 03:16:01.020 --> 03:16:02.160 Jay Handal: just said that it's not. 2054 03:16:02.160 --> 03:16:03.750 Ivan: being postponed. 2055 03:16:03.870 --> 03:16:05.760 Jay Handal: And then I stopped the guy to hear everything. 2056 03:16:05.760 --> 03:16:06.660 Ivan: I say, please. 2057 03:16:07.260 --> 03:16:11.700 Jay Handal: Okay it's it's not being heard for lack of quorum there's only nine. 2058 03:16:15.480 --> 03:16:20.370 Soledad Ursua: No, I don't think so don't forget judge right heart is the same magistrate. 2059 03:16:23.910 --> 03:16:24.720 Jay Handal: Okay guys. 2060 03:16:25.410 --> 03:16:25.980 Sorry. 2061 03:16:28.170 --> 03:16:28.950 Jim Robb: they're hired. 2062 03:16:34.650 --> 03:16:35.250 jim murez: um. 2063 03:16:36.360 --> 03:16:40.920 jim murez: Did you keep track of who was who was here, who was not here. 2064 03:16:41.190 --> 03:16:44.640 Jay Handal: Right so Mike bravo did not answer he's mocked absent. 2065 03:16:46.080 --> 03:16:56.850 Jay Handal: And zach is here, basically, the only ones here available to vote for myself Bruno James Jason alley. 2066 03:16:58.440 --> 03:16:59.370 Jay Handal: cj. 2067 03:17:00.570 --> 03:17:02.220 Jay Handal: Robert zach and Clark. 2068 03:17:03.750 --> 03:17:06.450 jim murez: Alright, well, that was all recorded so i'm sure that'll be fine. 2069 03:17:06.480 --> 03:17:09.210 jim murez: Now, thank you for taking care of that now. 2070 03:17:09.210 --> 03:17:12.300 robertthibodeau: We can we recount that I think there was 11. 2071 03:17:15.450 --> 03:17:16.680 jim murez: What are we counting cover. 2072 03:17:17.790 --> 03:17:19.800 robertthibodeau: I think you missed you missed. 2073 03:17:20.940 --> 03:17:23.520 robertthibodeau: missed Elizabeth there's. 2074 03:17:23.550 --> 03:17:27.960 This 178 910. 2075 03:17:29.790 --> 03:17:35.580 robertthibodeau: Can we just double check me it's an important item let's be sure we've got the right number that went off it quickly. 2076 03:17:36.150 --> 03:17:39.480 Jay Handal: So Elizabeth I called and I didn't get an answer. 2077 03:17:39.810 --> 03:17:41.070 robertthibodeau: Yes, she yes, she did. 2078 03:17:41.280 --> 03:17:41.790 Jay Handal: Good I. 2079 03:17:43.110 --> 03:17:44.190 Elizabeth c: Absolutely answered. 2080 03:17:44.490 --> 03:17:48.180 Jay Handal: Okay, so and we still I had That means we had 10. 2081 03:17:51.300 --> 03:17:52.410 Jay Handal: That means we had 10. 2082 03:17:54.840 --> 03:17:56.220 robertthibodeau: disappointing okay. 2083 03:18:00.360 --> 03:18:00.660 jim murez: Okay. 2084 03:18:02.010 --> 03:18:02.550 Jay Handal: Thank you. 2085 03:18:02.790 --> 03:18:06.000 jim murez: appreciate it okay i'm. 2086 03:18:09.120 --> 03:18:13.170 jim murez: run Item number 20 this is Clark brown stakeholder petition. 2087 03:18:14.550 --> 03:18:18.180 jim murez: Clark, you want to go ahead and make the motion. 2088 03:18:18.390 --> 03:18:26.700 Clark Brown: Or to somebody yes, I moved to approve the stakeholder petition and it's three motions with the attachments. 2089 03:18:26.940 --> 03:18:28.260 jim murez: Thank you, do we have a second. 2090 03:18:29.490 --> 03:18:29.850 CJ Cole: i'll say. 2091 03:18:32.460 --> 03:18:34.980 jim murez: cj was that you cj. 2092 03:18:35.130 --> 03:18:36.360 Yes, okay. 2093 03:18:37.620 --> 03:18:40.980 jim murez: Okay Park, do you want to make a brief presentation. 2094 03:18:41.250 --> 03:18:47.010 Clark Brown: yeah, if I may briefly summarize a petition, the three motions and the attachments. 2095 03:18:47.550 --> 03:19:00.660 Clark Brown: The only purpose of the stakeholder petition in the motions is defined temporary shelter for the homeless in either safe camping facilities on vacant lots or in hotel rooms. 2096 03:19:01.020 --> 03:19:08.970 Clark Brown: 64 Venice stakeholders signed the petition in less than three hours, the petition has three emotions. 2097 03:19:09.570 --> 03:19:19.560 Clark Brown: The first motion requires the Venice neighborhood Council to consider the memo to bond, and as a roadmap for dealing with the Venice homeless problem. 2098 03:19:20.250 --> 03:19:41.880 Clark Brown: It also requires the Venice neighborhood Council to meet and confer with the westchester neighborhood Council about the bond in motion which, in part, requests to city to establish safe camping sites for the homeless, on two large parcels of vacant land north of lax and within westchester. 2099 03:19:42.720 --> 03:20:00.360 Clark Brown: The second motion is for a resolution, which requests the city and the county to give special consideration to Venice homeless persons to live in two hotels, the city and the county are buying in westchester which are identified in the resolution. 2100 03:20:01.380 --> 03:20:03.300 Clark Brown: The third motion directs. 2101 03:20:04.410 --> 03:20:20.580 Clark Brown: The homelessness committee to review, a study of vacant publicly on lots in West Los Angeles, to determine which would be suitable for safe camping sites now with respect to them motion to Barnum, which is part of the. 2102 03:20:21.630 --> 03:20:32.790 Clark Brown: First motion as you recall, we approved the memo to bond in in January, but then we reconsidered it and fit in February and send it back to the homeless committee. 2103 03:20:33.210 --> 03:20:48.540 Clark Brown: was decided to postpone it indefinitely the main objections the memo was it a soft to establish the two large safe camping sites north of lax and within westchester without first discussing this with West Chester. 2104 03:20:49.290 --> 03:20:59.670 Clark Brown: This motion does not impose anything on West Chester rather it requires our representatives to meet and confer with West chester's representatives. 2105 03:20:59.940 --> 03:21:07.590 Clark Brown: To see if one or both of the parcels could be used for safe camping under conditions agreeable to westchester. 2106 03:21:08.160 --> 03:21:17.730 Clark Brown: I think it's important to try this for two reasons first 64 of Venice stakeholders, want the city to use the two vacant parcels north of. 2107 03:21:18.360 --> 03:21:33.300 Clark Brown: la X percent safe camping sites for the homeless, and second, there may be no other suitable, safe camping sites, except the two for the two parcels North avila yaks Thank you happy to answer any questions. 2108 03:21:34.410 --> 03:21:35.460 jim murez: Okay um. 2109 03:21:36.750 --> 03:21:39.450 jim murez: let's take public comment, we have any public comment on this item. 2110 03:21:42.000 --> 03:21:43.140 jim murez: daffodil are you with us. 2111 03:21:44.970 --> 03:21:51.510 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, I am sorry um I was still just had my camera off from being accused, we do have public comment on this. 2112 03:21:53.280 --> 03:22:02.940 Daffodil Tyminski: We have 1234567 we have seven folks when you get public comment shauna Brian why don't you go first. 2113 03:22:05.010 --> 03:22:07.350 Sean Obrien: Oh darn always when I want to go last I get. 2114 03:22:08.160 --> 03:22:10.590 Daffodil Tyminski: Up sorry, what are you popped up. 2115 03:22:11.010 --> 03:22:17.340 Sean Obrien: that's all right that's why i'm yes it's a little confusing with this, I understand where clark's trying to go. 2116 03:22:19.740 --> 03:22:25.800 Sean Obrien: i'm not sure if the La airport the FAA will allow that land. 2117 03:22:26.880 --> 03:22:30.870 Sean Obrien: To be used for for living purposes. 2118 03:22:32.850 --> 03:22:37.230 Sean Obrien: But anything's worth a shot I don't know i'm confused Thank you that's enough. 2119 03:22:39.120 --> 03:22:42.480 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Sean i'm go developer. 2120 03:22:43.110 --> 03:22:43.680 just go ahead. 2121 03:22:51.480 --> 03:22:51.630 Goat Nigger Developer: I. 2122 03:22:53.280 --> 03:22:54.210 Goat Nigger Developer: told you to behave. 2123 03:22:58.140 --> 03:22:59.280 Goat Nigger Developer: What do we have here. 2124 03:23:00.330 --> 03:23:01.350 Goat Nigger Developer: giving away. 2125 03:23:03.780 --> 03:23:05.640 Goat Nigger Developer: invaluable tax dollars. 2126 03:23:10.590 --> 03:23:15.000 Goat Nigger Developer: homeless person right now i'll introduce him billy go ahead. 2127 03:23:16.620 --> 03:23:18.300 Goat Nigger Developer: Oh yeah Thank you. 2128 03:23:19.530 --> 03:23:25.020 Goat Nigger Developer: I want you to know that i'll never get a job acted 10 you tweaking. 2129 03:23:26.040 --> 03:23:29.460 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, go developer sorry this is totally off topic. 2130 03:23:30.120 --> 03:23:31.170 we're gonna move on. 2131 03:23:32.850 --> 03:23:34.200 Goat Nigger Developer: and plenty w. 2132 03:23:34.620 --> 03:23:38.250 Goat Nigger Developer: Go ahead, I want to win a free hotel. 2133 03:23:41.550 --> 03:23:43.110 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sorry about that climate go ahead. 2134 03:23:44.790 --> 03:23:50.640 Kalani W: hello, how kalani whittington here, I do not support this, this is another. 2135 03:23:51.660 --> 03:24:01.260 Kalani W: F you from Boston as he vacated seat, just like the road diet that he's trying to implement on Venice boulevard. 2136 03:24:01.950 --> 03:24:18.090 Kalani W: This is another faq let's not forget that bond and partially lost it was forced out of office, because he made that ridiculous proposal in allowing us to open up all city parks at the beach for for the homeless. 2137 03:24:19.980 --> 03:24:38.730 Kalani W: I just lost a dear friend to drug addiction, less than a week ago, he was never mandated into treatment, we could not mandate him into treatment and he ended up losing his battle with alcohol, we need to start mandating treatment for. 2138 03:24:39.780 --> 03:24:47.010 Kalani W: Those who are the homeless people because many of them have drug abuse and mental health issues. 2139 03:24:47.910 --> 03:24:53.520 Kalani W: giving them land to Camp on near the airport is not going to cure their issue. 2140 03:24:54.030 --> 03:24:54.630 Kalani W: Thank you. 2141 03:24:54.690 --> 03:24:55.080 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 2142 03:24:57.390 --> 03:24:59.490 Daffodil Tyminski: Elizabeth right go ahead, please. 2143 03:25:05.190 --> 03:25:07.920 Elizabeth Wright: I urge you to vote against this motion. 2144 03:25:09.690 --> 03:25:24.510 Elizabeth Wright: Among other things, it's not one motion it's three at the top under description three at the bottom under motion, and there are references to a memo that is not included with the documentation and, if you read all of the documentation, they are more emotions in there. 2145 03:25:26.070 --> 03:25:31.560 Elizabeth Wright: It is way way way way too complex, as far as la X goes. 2146 03:25:33.180 --> 03:25:35.730 Elizabeth Wright: property that was purchased by. 2147 03:25:38.370 --> 03:25:39.060 Elizabeth Wright: Because. 2148 03:25:39.660 --> 03:25:48.870 Elizabeth Wright: It was deemed not livable is not going to be turned over to be lived on I mean that's a fact just accept it right. 2149 03:25:52.680 --> 03:25:53.370 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Liz. 2150 03:25:54.510 --> 03:25:56.790 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm frank Murphy go ahead. 2151 03:26:02.430 --> 03:26:05.730 frank murphy: All right, yes, frank frank Murphy um. 2152 03:26:07.680 --> 03:26:24.150 frank murphy: I, I agree with everybody, and that is very confusing and extremely wide ranging on top of which it's it's a it's actually asking others to do the work of the motion itself. 2153 03:26:24.900 --> 03:26:38.970 frank murphy: And I object to that we, as the homelessness committee will decide what will what we will tackle and not tackle, so I would appreciate a no vote on this, thank you. 2154 03:26:41.640 --> 03:26:45.600 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, and our last public comment is Helen Helen Helen go ahead. 2155 03:26:49.140 --> 03:27:01.350 Helen Fallon: To support this because I, I agree with one of the other speakers to be focusing our efforts on getting treatment for people and putting transients say up camp grounds for. 2156 03:27:03.300 --> 03:27:05.490 Helen Fallon: counterproductive it's not getting them really office. 2157 03:27:06.540 --> 03:27:22.830 Helen Fallon: So I understand that westchester has identified that isn't part of the airport property which they feel would be much more suitable or any kind of campaign was a party so um yeah I don't I don't support this thinking. 2158 03:27:24.930 --> 03:27:29.820 Helen Fallon: Oh, my minutes are quite up I then you really need to read those bylaws you're completely wrong. 2159 03:27:30.120 --> 03:27:33.750 Helen Fallon: You missed you misinterpreted them ah six. 2160 03:27:33.960 --> 03:27:36.720 Daffodil Tyminski: let's say on topic Helen that's common for later. 2161 03:27:38.220 --> 03:27:40.560 Daffodil Tyminski: um Thank you very much. 2162 03:27:42.390 --> 03:27:45.540 Daffodil Tyminski: was closed public comment and move on the board comment to him. 2163 03:27:48.000 --> 03:27:52.500 jim murez: Okay i'm Clark, I see your hands up you've already had a chance to speak to it will. 2164 03:27:52.920 --> 03:27:56.310 jim murez: just respond oh Clark, will give you the last chance. 2165 03:27:57.750 --> 03:27:59.490 jim murez: anybody else want to speak to the item. 2166 03:28:02.250 --> 03:28:05.430 jim murez: Any other board members want to speak to this item. 2167 03:28:06.600 --> 03:28:08.100 jim murez: Okay Clark go ahead, oh. 2168 03:28:08.250 --> 03:28:09.540 jim murez: Definitely i'll go ahead first. 2169 03:28:09.900 --> 03:28:17.070 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I was just going to say in spirit, I appreciate what Clark, is trying to do, but I put myself in the position of westchester and. 2170 03:28:17.490 --> 03:28:28.680 Daffodil Tyminski: we've had other Councils weigh in on projects in our in our Council area that we have really been opposed to and we're really frustrated by outsiders coming in, and I think. 2171 03:28:29.310 --> 03:28:40.650 Daffodil Tyminski: You know, in the spirit of that we should respect other Councils to do what they need to do for their neighborhoods and we really shouldn't be meddling in that, so I I do appreciate the work that's here and. 2172 03:28:41.370 --> 03:28:50.070 Daffodil Tyminski: that there are some very good ideas here, but I just can't support trying to ride roughshod over our neighborhood neighbor neighborhood Council. 2173 03:28:52.530 --> 03:28:55.320 jim murez: And I would like to also chime in. 2174 03:28:55.500 --> 03:29:03.630 jim murez: Along those same lines, I don't feel that it's our position to be pushing something on to them, I feel if they work to bring to us. 2175 03:29:03.930 --> 03:29:12.450 jim murez: A proposal along these lines, I think it would be very exciting for the best neighborhood Council to participate in supporting an effort. 2176 03:29:13.170 --> 03:29:20.670 jim murez: Their neighborhood Council within their jurisdiction wanted to do, but I feel the same way if their neighborhood Council came to us. 2177 03:29:21.210 --> 03:29:32.100 jim murez: or actually made a motion That said, we want to put the homeless people in Venice, because you have beaches, or because you have parking lots, I think that I would be very offended is for. 2178 03:29:33.030 --> 03:29:34.590 jim murez: Robert you have your hand up go ahead. 2179 03:29:37.980 --> 03:29:48.150 robertthibodeau: I think it's a shame that the mayor's office, the Council office in and all of all of the other sort of the I guess the City Council in general. 2180 03:29:49.260 --> 03:29:54.780 robertthibodeau: aren't providing what Clark, is trying to do, which is a more equitable. 2181 03:29:56.100 --> 03:29:56.700 robertthibodeau: sort of. 2182 03:29:58.170 --> 03:30:09.060 robertthibodeau: distribution of social services and instead they're focusing the social services that we all know, are needed, but they're focusing them. 2183 03:30:10.140 --> 03:30:10.770 robertthibodeau: So. 2184 03:30:11.880 --> 03:30:22.200 robertthibodeau: Much in in singular areas to create more problems and they're solving instead of distributing them evenly. 2185 03:30:22.800 --> 03:30:33.150 robertthibodeau: So that we're all share sort of the burden and benefits that the social services provide, and I think that's what color is responding to and what we're seeing in Venice, I mean I. 2186 03:30:33.540 --> 03:30:43.620 robertthibodeau: I don't think I can support the motion, out of respect to westchester, but I do see what he's trying to do, and I understand the frustration when we see project after project sort of. 2187 03:30:44.250 --> 03:30:54.720 robertthibodeau: pushed you know, half a block away from each other in Venice it's very disturbing and you, I think we all want to know and and don't really see a justification. 2188 03:30:55.200 --> 03:31:04.830 robertthibodeau: of how come our communities being targeted and and I think we're all very disappointed in our government right now for for the way that we're being treated, thank you. 2189 03:31:05.610 --> 03:31:09.690 jim murez: Thank you, Robert anybody else before Clark has a chance to respond. 2190 03:31:12.690 --> 03:31:14.040 jim murez: sack best go ahead. 2191 03:31:15.330 --> 03:31:31.560 Zack Best: I sincerely agree with Robert for sure, like it's just obviously we're all extremely disappointed with you know, the way things been going but it's you know if if westchester was trying to. 2192 03:31:32.100 --> 03:31:43.650 Zack Best: push homeless or any any other you know Community was trying to push homeless into Venice like I would be you know outrage so that's all. 2193 03:31:46.590 --> 03:31:47.610 jim murez: anybody else. 2194 03:31:50.100 --> 03:31:54.900 jim murez: Any other committee members i'm going to let Clark capital S say before we take the vote. 2195 03:31:55.620 --> 03:31:58.440 jim murez: If anybody wants to speak, they need to raise their hand now. 2196 03:32:03.840 --> 03:32:04.350 jim murez: Go ahead. 2197 03:32:05.160 --> 03:32:11.730 Jason Sugars: I just have a really quick question, if I may, I don't know if i'm allowed it's not as much a comment and it'll be very short very short. 2198 03:32:12.420 --> 03:32:20.460 Jason Sugars: um has there been any kind of consideration as to what the air quality and quality of life is in that area while we're pushing people down there as far as it being so close to the airport, etc. 2199 03:32:21.360 --> 03:32:27.930 jim murez: So that will be one of those ones that Clark gets to answer because he was the maker of the motion and actually the writer of the motion as well. 2200 03:32:28.380 --> 03:32:28.710 Jason Sugars: Thank you. 2201 03:32:29.220 --> 03:32:31.260 jim murez: Any other board members have any. 2202 03:32:31.260 --> 03:32:32.370 questions. 2203 03:32:33.600 --> 03:32:36.240 jim murez: or statements that they would like to make. 2204 03:32:37.800 --> 03:32:40.230 melissa diner : i'm just i'm just gonna ask. 2205 03:32:41.310 --> 03:32:59.880 melissa diner : The question of why we're here to make a Monday, when we know that the chance of them happening is already SLIM to none beside someone else so they're mad at us for making a recommendation that could most likely not ever happen. 2206 03:33:03.750 --> 03:33:04.770 Thank you, Melissa. 2207 03:33:06.180 --> 03:33:06.750 jim murez: um. 2208 03:33:07.200 --> 03:33:08.460 jim murez: anyone else. 2209 03:33:14.730 --> 03:33:15.030 CJ Cole: Oh. 2210 03:33:15.540 --> 03:33:25.230 jim murez: i'm going to go ahead now and let Clark respond to jason's questions the public comment and then let's take a vote Clark, if you can keep it brief we have. 2211 03:33:25.290 --> 03:33:30.630 Clark Brown: Now let me respond briefly to each of these comments with respect to shadow brian's comment. 2212 03:33:31.020 --> 03:33:39.960 Clark Brown: I have served seven public records requests on Barnes office and law, to see if there are in fact. 2213 03:33:40.890 --> 03:33:52.020 Clark Brown: If there is a regulation, where a condition from the FAA which bars use of these parcels for residential uses and they haven't produced anything. 2214 03:33:53.010 --> 03:34:02.130 Clark Brown: there's a lot of loose talk about FAA regulations, but nothing has been produced to show that there is one with respect to call a honeys proposal. 2215 03:34:02.850 --> 03:34:18.360 Clark Brown: The ninth circuit Boise case prevents the city from enforcing any of its anti camping ordinances unless it has places to move the homeless, to either to hotel rooms, or else to save camping sites. 2216 03:34:18.930 --> 03:34:31.740 Clark Brown: Where they can be monitored and helped with respect to Elizabeth writes petition or point the font and memo in fact is attached is part of the attachment one. 2217 03:34:32.100 --> 03:34:39.360 Clark Brown: To the to the petition the exhibits are not for the H eight page memo is as part of exhibit one. 2218 03:34:40.170 --> 03:34:49.080 Clark Brown: With respect to frank murphy's point I think it's entirely appropriate for the Venice neighborhood Council is the Governing Board to. 2219 03:34:49.920 --> 03:34:58.410 Clark Brown: Make assignments to committees, including the homelessness committee to in this case, carry out a study to see if there are. 2220 03:34:58.800 --> 03:35:05.340 Clark Brown: Available vacant lots in West Los Angeles that could be used for safe camping sites. 2221 03:35:05.880 --> 03:35:19.020 Clark Brown: With respect to jim's point that we are imposing on the Venice on the westchester neighborhood Council, we are not all the motion does is is provide that we will meet and confer with them. 2222 03:35:19.770 --> 03:35:32.040 Clark Brown: To discuss whether one or two of these parcels could be used for homeless safe camping sites and I want to point out that, to the best of my knowledge, the. 2223 03:35:34.860 --> 03:35:39.090 Clark Brown: neighborhood Council in westchester is not supposed the site. 2224 03:35:40.140 --> 03:35:54.450 Clark Brown: at La cienega and sensory it's only opposed the site at locky here in westchester parkway and with respect to zacks or jason's point I don't know the answer to. 2225 03:35:55.500 --> 03:36:12.420 Clark Brown: Whether there are air quality or even noise problems with these two sites, but that is something to be looked at, you got to start somewhere and this motion provides a starting place we can't solve all of these issues at once, or ahead of time. 2226 03:36:14.100 --> 03:36:15.270 Clark Brown: Thank you for your consideration. 2227 03:36:16.080 --> 03:36:22.710 jim murez: Thank you Claire can you can lower your hand, please, I just want to point out that the description of his. 2228 03:36:23.790 --> 03:36:27.300 jim murez: things up above on the top half of this page is this part up here that. 2229 03:36:28.320 --> 03:36:41.520 jim murez: Highlighting and blue, that is not the motion motions down here, where it says motion number one us to bacon parcels of land that North la X for safe camping sites for the homeless. 2230 03:36:42.060 --> 03:36:52.860 jim murez: to request the city and county of Los Angeles give residents priority to the to Venice homeless in the two hotels, the city and county are buying in westchester. 2231 03:36:53.190 --> 03:37:05.790 jim murez: And three determine if there are any publicly on bacon lots in West Los Angeles suitable for safe camping sites for the homeless person, that is, the motion that's what we're voting on a now calling for the vote let's take a vote. 2232 03:37:09.180 --> 03:37:15.240 jim murez: And remember, everyone know talking during the votes just yay or nay abstain, whatever okay daffodil, how do you vote. 2233 03:37:15.960 --> 03:37:16.320 Now. 2234 03:37:17.370 --> 03:37:17.940 jim murez: Thank you. 2235 03:37:18.060 --> 03:37:19.080 jim murez: Melissa, how do you vote. 2236 03:37:19.170 --> 03:37:19.920 Yes. 2237 03:37:21.270 --> 03:37:22.170 jim murez: Jay, how do you vote. 2238 03:37:22.620 --> 03:37:24.270 Jay Handal: I will abstain on this one. 2239 03:37:24.780 --> 03:37:26.220 jim murez: Thank you vicki, how do you vote. 2240 03:37:26.670 --> 03:37:27.030 No. 2241 03:37:29.010 --> 03:37:29.520 jim murez: Bruno. 2242 03:37:29.790 --> 03:37:30.240 No. 2243 03:37:32.310 --> 03:37:33.060 jim murez: Jim rob. 2244 03:37:35.640 --> 03:37:36.360 Jim Robb: Come back to the. 2245 03:37:37.500 --> 03:37:39.720 jim murez: gym and you need to vote jump. 2246 03:37:40.530 --> 03:37:41.250 Jim Robb: i'll say now. 2247 03:37:43.560 --> 03:37:44.580 jim murez: Jason, how do you vote. 2248 03:37:45.330 --> 03:37:45.660 No. 2249 03:37:47.010 --> 03:37:47.970 jim murez: Le have you both. 2250 03:37:48.420 --> 03:37:48.960 know. 2251 03:37:50.760 --> 03:37:51.750 jim murez: Like how you vote. 2252 03:37:55.350 --> 03:37:56.340 jim murez: Mike are you there. 2253 03:37:57.420 --> 03:37:57.840 Soledad Ursua: is actually. 2254 03:38:00.780 --> 03:38:01.530 jim murez: A radio on. 2255 03:38:03.720 --> 03:38:04.140 Soledad Ursua: No. 2256 03:38:10.020 --> 03:38:10.680 jim murez: cj. 2257 03:38:10.980 --> 03:38:11.580 Now. 2258 03:38:13.530 --> 03:38:14.700 jim murez: Elizabeth vote. 2259 03:38:15.840 --> 03:38:16.410 Elizabeth c: Yes. 2260 03:38:19.020 --> 03:38:20.070 jim murez: Robert have you vote. 2261 03:38:20.880 --> 03:38:21.330 No. 2262 03:38:23.850 --> 03:38:24.180 jim murez: VOTE 2263 03:38:24.390 --> 03:38:24.960 1215****969: Yes. 2264 03:38:25.950 --> 03:38:27.000 jim murez: The kill, how do you vote. 2265 03:38:28.320 --> 03:38:28.650 Now. 2266 03:38:30.330 --> 03:38:31.560 jim murez: Mike are you there. 2267 03:38:35.040 --> 03:38:36.600 jim murez: Capitalist Mike still in the meeting. 2268 03:38:36.870 --> 03:38:37.950 robertthibodeau: I don't think he is. 2269 03:38:38.730 --> 03:38:41.220 Jim Robb: about to do guided to do is actor who. 2270 03:38:41.970 --> 03:38:43.350 Daffodil Tyminski: Mike is not in the meeting. 2271 03:38:43.650 --> 03:38:44.220 jim murez: And I will. 2272 03:38:45.150 --> 03:38:50.580 Daffodil Tyminski: Think he's been consistently marked absent, so the Minutes are going to reflect the which point he was no longer here. 2273 03:38:51.090 --> 03:38:52.410 jim murez: Okay um. 2274 03:38:54.600 --> 03:38:55.260 jim murez: How do you vote. 2275 03:38:58.860 --> 03:39:01.680 Zack Best: yeah, but no one knows well. 2276 03:39:02.430 --> 03:39:07.440 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay i'm just going to add that TIM i'm actually just noticing now the minute it. 2277 03:39:10.470 --> 03:39:14.040 Daffodil Tyminski: And there's not a spot in the voter tally for someone absent. 2278 03:39:15.630 --> 03:39:18.600 jim murez: that's correct it just doesn't record them as voting. 2279 03:39:20.760 --> 03:39:21.180 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. 2280 03:39:25.230 --> 03:39:25.980 jim murez: How did you vote. 2281 03:39:29.070 --> 03:39:30.330 jim murez: Sorry, can hear you. 2282 03:39:31.800 --> 03:39:32.250 Zack Best: know. 2283 03:39:32.700 --> 03:39:33.150 Okay. 2284 03:39:34.800 --> 03:39:37.890 jim murez: i'm and i'm going to vote no also. 2285 03:39:39.180 --> 03:39:47.190 jim murez: So the final vote, including zach in the count would be 1112 knows. 2286 03:39:48.930 --> 03:39:51.480 jim murez: Three days one extension. 2287 03:39:52.530 --> 03:39:56.580 jim murez: And we move on to the next item, so the motion did not carry Clark. 2288 03:39:58.380 --> 03:40:06.630 jim murez: i'm land use and planning consent calendar Item number 23 that just 3705 esplanade. 2289 03:40:08.190 --> 03:40:16.470 jim murez: This was brought to us by the land use and planning committee the vote of 700 with somebody. 2290 03:40:17.820 --> 03:40:18.270 jim murez: let's see. 2291 03:40:20.460 --> 03:40:21.780 jim murez: Do we have anybody that wants to pull. 2292 03:40:21.780 --> 03:40:22.950 jim murez: It off of consent on the. 2293 03:40:26.790 --> 03:40:27.540 Daffodil Tyminski: On the Committee. 2294 03:40:27.930 --> 03:40:35.040 jim murez: yeah I don't see any else do we have anybody in the public that wants to pull it off of the. 2295 03:40:36.150 --> 03:40:41.280 jim murez: Consent calendar, I see a goat has his hand up is anybody you want to. 2296 03:40:41.340 --> 03:40:41.730 Zack Best: See. 2297 03:40:42.420 --> 03:40:44.340 jim murez: We need to call on goat goat go ahead. 2298 03:40:45.330 --> 03:40:46.500 jim murez: You want to pull this off oh. 2299 03:40:48.360 --> 03:40:50.460 Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead go did you want to pull this off. 2300 03:40:50.970 --> 03:40:52.590 Of course i'm a developer. 2301 03:40:54.660 --> 03:40:57.330 jim murez: Why do you why do you want to pull it off what's the reason. 2302 03:40:58.920 --> 03:41:14.580 Goat Nigger Developer: We want to look at why he needs a roof top deck because the Los Angeles area planning Commission they don't like the rooftop deck and I want to see why you like it because I eat it. 2303 03:41:15.840 --> 03:41:18.660 jim murez: will go ahead and hear this side on last night on. 2304 03:41:19.710 --> 03:41:22.080 Goat Nigger Developer: work very well reason, thank you. 2305 03:41:22.110 --> 03:41:25.800 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sorry Is that a reason Jim to pull something off of consent. 2306 03:41:25.830 --> 03:41:28.470 Goat Nigger Developer: That doesn't make any sense it does. 2307 03:41:29.250 --> 03:41:30.030 jim murez: he's allowed to do. 2308 03:41:32.670 --> 03:41:35.700 jim murez: If you can put your hand back down it'd be appreciated Luke pack old. 2309 03:41:35.700 --> 03:41:36.150 business. 2310 03:41:37.200 --> 03:41:38.130 New business. 2311 03:41:39.840 --> 03:41:41.220 jim murez: We will now hear the item. 2312 03:41:43.170 --> 03:41:48.960 jim murez: mikael do you want to go ahead and there was no new business under the pack, so this is now the last item under lewd Pack. 2313 03:41:50.520 --> 03:41:52.440 jim murez: mchale you want to go ahead and present item. 2314 03:41:53.130 --> 03:41:55.260 jim murez: 3705 espionage, please. 2315 03:41:58.530 --> 03:41:59.010 jim murez: kill. 2316 03:42:01.500 --> 03:42:03.330 jim murez: Actually Can somebody make a motion. 2317 03:42:04.020 --> 03:42:08.370 Daffodil Tyminski: it's definitely i'll make a motion to approve this project as presented. 2318 03:42:09.360 --> 03:42:11.220 Vicki Halliday: And I will second Jim dickie. 2319 03:42:12.720 --> 03:42:14.820 Daffodil Tyminski: and kill us here on his phone. 2320 03:42:15.330 --> 03:42:19.950 jim murez: bill, can you REP can you can you read us the motion, or do you want somebody else to do it. 2321 03:42:21.120 --> 03:42:21.360 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah. 2322 03:42:21.390 --> 03:42:26.190 1215****969: I had to i'm sorry I only allocated three and a half hours and eating so. 2323 03:42:27.630 --> 03:42:28.740 1215****969: I am on my phone now. 2324 03:42:30.870 --> 03:42:32.070 1215****969: yeah someone else could read it. 2325 03:42:33.810 --> 03:42:35.850 jim murez: Definitely, you want to go ahead and read it in the record. 2326 03:42:36.510 --> 03:42:39.990 Daffodil Tyminski: Sure, so this this description of this project is. 2327 03:42:41.010 --> 03:42:48.570 Daffodil Tyminski: i'll just read that briefly case number Dir to to to dash one four to eight dash CDP. 2328 03:42:49.620 --> 03:43:01.710 Daffodil Tyminski: comma Ian V dash 2022 deaths 1429 dash see it's a 1900 and 16 square foot third story addition, the new roof deck above existing second story. 2329 03:43:03.240 --> 03:43:07.350 Daffodil Tyminski: The dnc moves to recommend moves to approve this project as presented. 2330 03:43:07.830 --> 03:43:08.520 jim murez: Okay, thank you. 2331 03:43:09.120 --> 03:43:09.540 um. 2332 03:43:10.650 --> 03:43:12.360 jim murez: Do we have any public comment on the item. 2333 03:43:12.510 --> 03:43:15.840 Daffodil Tyminski: And by the way, this was a loop heck vote 700. 2334 03:43:18.780 --> 03:43:20.640 Daffodil Tyminski: There is public comment on the item. 2335 03:43:22.050 --> 03:43:24.120 Daffodil Tyminski: developer go ahead. 2336 03:43:27.390 --> 03:43:28.740 Goat Nigger Developer: horror stories. 2337 03:43:30.120 --> 03:43:45.150 Goat Nigger Developer: story, then the rooftop deck constitutes another story hey good point as 1900 and 60 feet for that third story I don't know 1900 and 36 spots dance. 2338 03:43:45.690 --> 03:43:58.080 Goat Nigger Developer: hula needs that much space on a rooftop deck but you call it three stories tell the truth, human it's far stories, so they can raise their women as. 2339 03:43:58.710 --> 03:44:10.290 Goat Nigger Developer: I can go to the sky, to try to see the ocean, so they can sell the House a Wall Street later, but when I turn the West Los Angeles area planning Commission. 2340 03:44:10.710 --> 03:44:28.620 Goat Nigger Developer: The Nice lady Lisa what's Morocco up front that she handles right here does not applying these continual attempts of these rooftop decks don't pop up loans to get rid of it, God damn row top deck it's towards that, so there. 2341 03:44:28.860 --> 03:44:29.430 Daffodil Tyminski: You go. 2342 03:44:30.720 --> 03:44:35.100 jim murez: Okay, on that public comment is closed um. 2343 03:44:36.420 --> 03:44:40.590 jim murez: I guess just for point of clarification that mckellar you still there. 2344 03:44:45.060 --> 03:44:46.290 jim murez: Go you have to unmute. 2345 03:44:47.040 --> 03:44:47.760 jim murez: There you go yeah. 2346 03:44:48.780 --> 03:44:50.640 jim murez: They were they asking for it. 2347 03:44:54.000 --> 03:44:56.190 jim murez: To be planner the land use planning, this project. 2348 03:44:57.270 --> 03:45:00.660 1215****969: there's no variances or exemptions requested. 2349 03:45:01.020 --> 03:45:04.650 jim murez: Okay does anybody on the committee have anything they would like to ask or say. 2350 03:45:06.120 --> 03:45:11.220 jim murez: Seeing no hands raised, can we take a vote, please, are there any know boats. 2351 03:45:12.810 --> 03:45:13.980 jim murez: Any abstention. 2352 03:45:15.720 --> 03:45:17.310 jim murez: Everyone else's a yes. 2353 03:45:22.080 --> 03:45:24.600 jim murez: Except Mike are you here. 2354 03:45:31.380 --> 03:45:31.920 Soledad Ursua: i'm here. 2355 03:45:36.570 --> 03:45:37.170 jim murez: Very good. 2356 03:45:43.110 --> 03:45:44.040 jim murez: right along. 2357 03:45:45.930 --> 03:45:47.640 jim murez: done all of these are ready. 2358 03:45:49.080 --> 03:45:50.190 jim murez: Oh sorry to the bottom. 2359 03:45:52.980 --> 03:45:55.020 jim murez: haha so we still have. 2360 03:45:56.670 --> 03:45:57.750 jim murez: Three more items. 2361 03:45:59.040 --> 03:46:01.200 jim murez: Making progress will be done by. 2362 03:46:02.220 --> 03:46:02.670 jim murez: midnight. 2363 03:46:05.250 --> 03:46:07.350 jim murez: event, this is. 2364 03:46:07.590 --> 03:46:08.940 jim murez: outreach chair. 2365 03:46:09.510 --> 03:46:27.150 jim murez: Sema was asking to have a motion by the Board of Officer of proving up to three Kennedy events prior to the first of November, the event budget we're going to see the Item number 12 above which we already approved. 2366 03:46:28.860 --> 03:46:35.520 jim murez: There will be a task force attached to this that she will be creating in her. 2367 03:46:35.520 --> 03:46:36.120 Committee. 2368 03:46:47.820 --> 03:46:53.850 jim murez: The task force will be reporting back to the outreach committee and they in turn will be. 2369 03:46:53.850 --> 03:47:01.980 jim murez: Reporting board for final approval of whatever events are created. 2370 03:47:03.270 --> 03:47:08.010 jim murez: The dnc will host the candidate events prior to the first of November. 2371 03:47:12.870 --> 03:47:13.800 jim murez: We have a second. 2372 03:47:20.850 --> 03:47:21.600 jim murez: i'm. 2373 03:47:26.280 --> 03:47:26.970 jim murez: comment. 2374 03:47:31.770 --> 03:47:32.610 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, we do. 2375 03:47:35.190 --> 03:47:36.420 Daffodil Tyminski: Helen fallon go ahead. 2376 03:47:37.650 --> 03:47:51.780 Helen Fallon: i'm just for the record I thought, Jim, you said that you'd heard that from all the candidates and nobody wants to do a zoom meeting I understand why this is being question hi everybody is wasting time and now a task force and. 2377 03:47:53.130 --> 03:47:58.710 Helen Fallon: makes no sense, surely there's better things to do with your time, other than planning, something that will never happen. 2378 03:48:03.510 --> 03:48:07.920 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Alan i'm kalani w go ahead. 2379 03:48:10.770 --> 03:48:21.450 Kalani W: i'm assuming this is candidates for the Council district office, as well as Maybe other city offices, I would urge you to partner with. 2380 03:48:21.930 --> 03:48:36.780 Kalani W: with other neighborhood Councils, because one reason candidates really don't want to attend is because the turnouts are so low, so please try to partner with other neighbor of conscious and maybe we can get a decent candidate turnout, thank you. 2381 03:48:39.600 --> 03:48:40.170 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 2382 03:48:41.850 --> 03:48:45.390 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm go developer go ahead. 2383 03:48:47.970 --> 03:48:55.770 Goat Nigger Developer: Surprise humor how come you can't get those two losers that are on the run off the replace loser a MIC on it. 2384 03:48:56.970 --> 03:49:05.340 Goat Nigger Developer: Surely you can get them, that would be one good one, it should be here by appointment for that of course Jacob. 2385 03:49:07.590 --> 03:49:10.500 Goat Nigger Developer: What about to one for the controller. 2386 03:49:11.760 --> 03:49:16.560 Goat Nigger Developer: Yes, we know the Pope peppa pig corrects the chairman of the murderous. 2387 03:49:16.650 --> 03:49:25.020 Goat Nigger Developer: Animal is running against the same Mr media for controller, we should have them being invited for the second defeat. 2388 03:49:26.490 --> 03:49:34.530 Goat Nigger Developer: And what about the third debate well that's simple county board of supervisors is having a runner between the pretty. 2389 03:49:36.660 --> 03:49:38.310 Goat Nigger Developer: Jewish lawyer from the valley. 2390 03:49:39.420 --> 03:49:41.700 Goat Nigger Developer: And, of course, you should have an opportunity. 2391 03:49:41.970 --> 03:49:42.810 1215****969: Now to pick up the phone. 2392 03:49:43.710 --> 03:49:45.420 Goat Nigger Developer: Yes, so way now. 2393 03:49:45.480 --> 03:49:46.830 1215****969: To demon is wrong. 2394 03:49:49.980 --> 03:49:54.870 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, thanks go up in and someone else needs to meet their phone. 2395 03:49:55.680 --> 03:49:56.580 jim murez: You know, you need to. 2396 03:49:57.090 --> 03:50:01.650 Daffodil Tyminski: um and last, we have Eric and Laura go ahead Erica. 2397 03:50:02.760 --> 03:50:16.290 Erica Moore: He there, I just wanted to say that I really think it if it was possible, I don't know what all the hoops you guys have to jump through but to pair up to partner with other neighbor counseled in CD 11. 2398 03:50:16.770 --> 03:50:23.160 Erica Moore: I think that would be a great way to do this event, I actually i'm thinking about it. 2399 03:50:23.730 --> 03:50:26.520 Erica Moore: You know, Venice is small, and I can understand. 2400 03:50:26.520 --> 03:50:36.390 Erica Moore: Why, it might be hard for candidates to commit to our small area, but if we were partnered with more people in CD 11 and made it a larger event. 2401 03:50:36.870 --> 03:50:44.100 Erica Moore: I think that that would be probably much more much it would be viable, and I think it might be more attractive to them to want to participate. 2402 03:50:44.490 --> 03:50:53.640 Erica Moore: But, again, I don't know what all the hoops that you have to jump through I don't know if the binding, it creates other issues, because I realized, you have to follow all these rules with the city so. 2403 03:50:54.390 --> 03:51:03.480 Erica Moore: But if that is a possibility, maybe that's a consideration and to get as many other neighborhood Councils in CVs 11 involved as possible, thanks. 2404 03:51:05.550 --> 03:51:06.510 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much Erica. 2405 03:51:07.620 --> 03:51:09.210 Daffodil Tyminski: Was that your will close public comment. 2406 03:51:11.700 --> 03:51:12.780 jim murez: Okay i'm. 2407 03:51:15.180 --> 03:51:18.300 jim murez: The three candidate yeah I just want to clarify this. 2408 03:51:20.070 --> 03:51:21.930 jim murez: Because there was a question asked. 2409 03:51:21.960 --> 03:51:29.190 jim murez: let's see approved three candidate, he was right and i'm just going to put out here in parentheses, that this would be the mayor. 2410 03:51:33.480 --> 03:51:34.260 jim murez: loving. 2411 03:51:43.470 --> 03:51:44.070 jim murez: later. 2412 03:51:49.050 --> 03:51:50.640 jim murez: It just clarified that okay. 2413 03:51:51.120 --> 03:51:53.220 jim murez: Does anybody have any questions about the. 2414 03:51:54.330 --> 03:51:54.870 jim murez: The motion. 2415 03:51:57.300 --> 03:52:00.330 jim murez: Seeing cj shaker had no. 2416 03:52:01.170 --> 03:52:01.440 Jay Handal: i'm going to. 2417 03:52:01.470 --> 03:52:01.770 talk. 2418 03:52:03.600 --> 03:52:04.020 CJ Cole: About. 2419 03:52:07.290 --> 03:52:09.480 jim murez: Does anybody have a one to abstain. 2420 03:52:11.340 --> 03:52:14.040 jim murez: Does anybody want to vote no. 2421 03:52:16.830 --> 03:52:18.060 jim murez: Then it's a. 2422 03:52:18.870 --> 03:52:20.760 jim murez: Unanimous yes. 2423 03:52:23.550 --> 03:52:24.570 jim murez: Like are you back. 2424 03:52:32.880 --> 03:52:33.540 jim murez: Very good. 2425 03:52:34.650 --> 03:52:35.100 jim murez: motion. 2426 03:52:35.220 --> 03:52:35.940 Jay Handal: Yes, ma'am. 2427 03:52:37.890 --> 03:52:38.160 Jay Handal: Yes. 2428 03:52:38.310 --> 03:52:39.870 jim murez: I hear voices J there you. 2429 03:52:39.870 --> 03:52:40.170 Go. 2430 03:52:41.340 --> 03:52:44.820 jim murez: Okay, most let's see Item number 32 motion. 2431 03:52:46.740 --> 03:52:53.850 jim murez: Council file 20 dash 1376 dash s three city attorney drafting amendment. 2432 03:52:56.190 --> 03:52:58.020 Daffodil Tyminski: latency provisions. 2433 03:52:58.680 --> 03:53:01.980 jim murez: That are, how much farther it goes on after that. 2434 03:53:05.130 --> 03:53:06.450 jim murez: i'm. 2435 03:53:07.530 --> 03:53:11.310 jim murez: Right of way, and especially within 500 feet of library. 2436 03:53:14.040 --> 03:53:14.400 jim murez: hey. 2437 03:53:15.960 --> 03:53:18.360 jim murez: This was brought this committee. 2438 03:53:21.960 --> 03:53:27.780 Ivan: need a motion before you start on this, it should be a Community impact statement. 2439 03:53:29.310 --> 03:53:31.500 jim murez: yeah we can file that will that will. 2440 03:53:32.430 --> 03:53:33.960 Ivan: push to Scotia nowhere. 2441 03:53:37.140 --> 03:53:37.830 Ivan: A statement. 2442 03:53:38.190 --> 03:53:43.200 jim murez: we're supporting the amendment of the Council file once that's done Ivan. 2443 03:53:44.580 --> 03:53:49.500 jim murez: As as somebody who has access to the Community impact statements system. 2444 03:53:50.160 --> 03:53:51.810 jim murez: We can just file this. 2445 03:53:51.990 --> 03:53:57.270 Ivan: And the with the board the Board should vote to file Community impact statement. 2446 03:53:58.800 --> 03:54:01.620 jim murez: We can amend this but let's first. 2447 03:54:02.100 --> 03:54:05.310 Ivan: What it whatever it's going to go nowhere like this. 2448 03:54:06.870 --> 03:54:07.500 Ivan: But the one. 2449 03:54:08.610 --> 03:54:10.290 jim murez: With somebody like to make the motion. 2450 03:54:11.520 --> 03:54:13.200 Vicki Halliday: i'm make the motion Jim thinking. 2451 03:54:14.940 --> 03:54:17.460 Daffodil Tyminski: It staff at the last second it Thank you. 2452 03:54:20.910 --> 03:54:21.690 jim murez: um. 2453 03:54:23.880 --> 03:54:24.930 jim murez: We have any public comment. 2454 03:54:25.560 --> 03:54:26.010 Daffodil Tyminski: Or do. 2455 03:54:26.340 --> 03:54:30.630 jim murez: We want to amend it first to say we're going to file a Community impact statement. 2456 03:54:32.490 --> 03:54:34.320 Daffodil Tyminski: That is probably a good idea. 2457 03:54:36.660 --> 03:54:40.020 Ivan: It should go after the board of officers can just say. 2458 03:54:40.470 --> 03:54:45.360 Ivan: The Board of officers it's file have Community impact statement in support. 2459 03:54:46.170 --> 03:54:49.350 Ivan: yeah supporting or and supportive yeah. 2460 03:54:51.630 --> 03:54:53.040 Ivan: doesn't change the motion. 2461 03:54:55.980 --> 03:54:57.420 jim murez: Council Board of officers. 2462 03:55:00.480 --> 03:55:01.080 jim murez: wiley. 2463 03:55:02.970 --> 03:55:03.270 Daffodil Tyminski: Make. 2464 03:55:03.900 --> 03:55:04.710 That statement. 2465 03:55:08.190 --> 03:55:08.910 jim murez: Oh you're saying. 2466 03:55:10.260 --> 03:55:11.340 jim murez: That correct daffodil. 2467 03:55:12.960 --> 03:55:14.220 jim murez: Just edit these words. 2468 03:55:16.200 --> 03:55:21.030 Daffodil Tyminski: So is filing I see as it would be in support of the amendment. 2469 03:55:21.840 --> 03:55:22.200 Daffodil Tyminski: Right. 2470 03:55:22.860 --> 03:55:23.520 Sorry i'm putting. 2471 03:55:31.980 --> 03:55:34.530 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I mean it's fine that's fine enough. 2472 03:55:36.330 --> 03:55:40.590 jim murez: Now let's take public comment on the alternate motion. 2473 03:55:41.610 --> 03:55:45.210 jim murez: Well let's see who's going to make the ultimate motion to sweep keep track of all this. 2474 03:55:45.900 --> 03:55:47.010 Vicki Halliday: i'm Jen. 2475 03:55:47.490 --> 03:55:48.420 jim murez: Thank you vicki. 2476 03:55:48.510 --> 03:55:51.840 Daffodil Tyminski: I think if it can I accept it, which i'll make the second it's fine. 2477 03:55:57.390 --> 03:56:00.030 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay let's take some public comment. 2478 03:56:00.090 --> 03:56:01.680 robertthibodeau: What is the real grind me. 2479 03:56:03.570 --> 03:56:04.410 Vicki Halliday: To type up. 2480 03:56:08.190 --> 03:56:08.520 jim murez: Okay. 2481 03:56:10.080 --> 03:56:11.640 Daffodil Tyminski: You want to take that back I didn't see that. 2482 03:56:14.940 --> 03:56:15.390 jim murez: What. 2483 03:56:15.960 --> 03:56:18.300 robertthibodeau: are not trying to be picky but you got a typo and then. 2484 03:56:23.190 --> 03:56:23.910 jim murez: we'll hit were. 2485 03:56:24.330 --> 03:56:25.200 robertthibodeau: Re grind. 2486 03:56:26.340 --> 03:56:28.200 robertthibodeau: settings the last sentence in the middle. 2487 03:56:31.200 --> 03:56:32.550 robertthibodeau: I don't know what you're supposed to be. 2488 03:56:32.910 --> 03:56:34.290 jim murez: yeah what's it supposed to be. 2489 03:56:34.440 --> 03:56:35.730 robertthibodeau: that's a good question isn't it. 2490 03:56:37.800 --> 03:56:38.970 Daffodil Tyminski: I think it's regarding. 2491 03:56:40.440 --> 03:56:40.890 robertthibodeau: Good be. 2492 03:56:41.280 --> 03:56:42.810 Jay Handal: It is regarding barley and. 2493 03:56:42.840 --> 03:56:43.650 disregarded. 2494 03:56:45.540 --> 03:56:46.200 robertthibodeau: Thank you. 2495 03:56:48.000 --> 03:56:48.420 jim murez: Better. 2496 03:56:48.810 --> 03:56:50.070 jim murez: So still miss phil. 2497 03:56:51.270 --> 03:56:51.780 jim murez: Here we go. 2498 03:56:55.140 --> 03:56:55.650 Jay Handal: wrong. 2499 03:56:55.890 --> 03:56:56.550 robertthibodeau: they'll run. 2500 03:56:57.480 --> 03:57:00.150 Jay Handal: R E a R D. 2501 03:57:02.160 --> 03:57:02.610 Daffodil Tyminski: There you go. 2502 03:57:05.850 --> 03:57:06.240 jim murez: Okay. 2503 03:57:07.530 --> 03:57:08.640 jim murez: Now we're taking public. 2504 03:57:09.270 --> 03:57:15.990 Daffodil Tyminski: Good catch our okay let's go into public comment i'm Margaret Margaret malloy go ahead. 2505 03:57:17.220 --> 03:57:20.370 Margaret Molloy: yeah this is for libraries correct. 2506 03:57:22.890 --> 03:57:23.460 Vicki Halliday: oops. 2507 03:57:24.210 --> 03:57:25.410 Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead make your comment mark. 2508 03:57:26.010 --> 03:57:42.210 Margaret Molloy: So, and no sitting lying sleeping storing a property, but you provide absolutely no storage and Venice for people's property and now you're trying to prohibit them from public access to a public institution which is a library. 2509 03:57:42.660 --> 03:57:54.840 Margaret Molloy: Which is where people read, who are they and can use a computer charge their phone, use the bathroom it's a public entity, and this is a very sweet thing and. 2510 03:57:55.770 --> 03:58:12.720 Margaret Molloy: Basically unconstitutional band, because you provide no other support services, so I don't know how you think this is appropriate, and you know, there was storage at the paddle tennis courts that many of you work to take away. 2511 03:58:13.380 --> 03:58:20.520 Margaret Molloy: You provide it no alternative, you have no storage for a large number of people in business, please don't support this. 2512 03:58:23.610 --> 03:58:24.690 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much Margaret. 2513 03:58:26.490 --> 03:58:28.050 Daffodil Tyminski: Go developer go ahead. 2514 03:58:31.980 --> 03:58:35.610 Goat Nigger Developer: Yes, and I did some research on this with another. 2515 03:58:37.740 --> 03:58:39.330 Goat Nigger Developer: unconstitutional. 2516 03:58:40.740 --> 03:58:47.940 Goat Nigger Developer: Unfortunately, yes, because the homeless, are allowed to go inside the library. 2517 03:58:49.170 --> 03:59:03.480 Goat Nigger Developer: No outside of a school I get it they're not allowed to go in the school right, so you can ban them from camping within 500 feet, what a library why they're allowed to go on, even without a mask. 2518 03:59:03.870 --> 03:59:24.270 Goat Nigger Developer: So let's say homeless criminal comes into the library and then goes outside and sits down and check those email he's a violation of the Statute, therefore, as Jay handle would one say when he used to be involved in these things, it was all report and unconstitutionally pay. 2519 03:59:25.410 --> 03:59:35.760 Goat Nigger Developer: For your opposition to this and take it back to what software markets scardino and tommy's a loser, because he wrote it. 2520 03:59:35.970 --> 03:59:37.320 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks go developer. 2521 03:59:39.150 --> 03:59:41.250 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm shauna Brian go ahead. 2522 03:59:43.980 --> 03:59:48.810 Sean Obrien: brief support the motion common sense, please support it, thank you. 2523 03:59:51.960 --> 03:59:56.490 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Sean and excuse the helicopter in my background i'm Lisa redmond go ahead. 2524 04:00:03.300 --> 04:00:10.710 Lisa Redmond: Against this motion, it is extremely discriminatory of choosing who can go to a library and who cannot. 2525 04:00:11.160 --> 04:00:18.180 Lisa Redmond: By saying that you're homeless you're not allowed to go to the library, but yeah if I parked my personal vehicle within 500 feet of a school. 2526 04:00:18.420 --> 04:00:27.060 Lisa Redmond: that's on the street that's my private property that i'm leaving behind but it's okay for me to leave that there but not an unhealthy person's belongings. 2527 04:00:27.330 --> 04:00:33.600 Lisa Redmond: Who will need to park them somewhere, because they need to go into the library, and when we take away space. 2528 04:00:33.900 --> 04:00:38.760 Lisa Redmond: As we did with the schools, it is just pushing people further and further away. 2529 04:00:39.060 --> 04:00:54.300 Lisa Redmond: Taking less and less room for them to Camp i'm sorry, people are camping on the screen, there should be housing everywhere, and we should be taking up our space and time pushing for more housing it's a travesty what the city is doing, ignoring and not pushing for housing. 2530 04:00:55.470 --> 04:01:01.710 Lisa Redmond: So it's against this and it just pushes people deeper into your neighborhoods out of the commercial areas. 2531 04:01:07.740 --> 04:01:11.190 Daffodil Tyminski: sorry about that Thank you so much Lisa I muted myself there i'm. 2532 04:01:12.720 --> 04:01:14.610 Daffodil Tyminski: Helen felon go ahead. 2533 04:01:17.820 --> 04:01:23.160 Helen Fallon: um I support this and I think we should go on record, because I disagree that it. 2534 04:01:23.520 --> 04:01:26.280 Helen Fallon: It really prohibits homeless from using the library. 2535 04:01:26.760 --> 04:01:29.220 Helen Fallon: We never had a problem until they started. 2536 04:01:29.460 --> 04:01:37.710 Helen Fallon: Putting tense all around the library and that created complete chaos and prevented everybody from you know not. 2537 04:01:39.150 --> 04:01:47.820 Helen Fallon: Just prevent it lots of people in the families for not using a library and we lost a lot of patrons that way people are finally starting to come back because they feel safe again and there's this. 2538 04:01:48.630 --> 04:01:59.880 Helen Fallon: gauntlet you have to run and people ranting and raving and swearing etc and let's not forget, now we had tense right up against the library building and one caught on fire we're lucky that the library wasn't. 2539 04:02:00.450 --> 04:02:18.960 Helen Fallon: seriously damaged, there has to be some regulations to protect our public spaces, no one's saying that almost can't use the library, they were using it before, and it was only until the tense arrive, and it became a major issue, so please help to support. 2540 04:02:20.010 --> 04:02:22.530 Helen Fallon: This amendment to the 40 wanting to. 2541 04:02:23.430 --> 04:02:24.240 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Helen. 2542 04:02:26.040 --> 04:02:29.100 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm kalani w go ahead place. 2543 04:02:30.360 --> 04:02:44.520 Kalani W: there's a big difference between parking your car or your bike and going into use the library for what it's intended for and living in front of or living on the premises of the library. 2544 04:02:44.880 --> 04:02:50.220 Kalani W: there's a huge difference that don't stretch it we all want to see the homeless issue. 2545 04:02:50.640 --> 04:03:03.060 Kalani W: saw as I said before, I lost a dear friend to drug addiction or alcohol addiction, less than a week ago, we need to start considering building. 2546 04:03:03.450 --> 04:03:19.980 Kalani W: and supporting more rehab facilities, a roof does not solve a mental health or a drug abuse issue we need to keep our public spaces open for a majority of our. 2547 04:03:20.910 --> 04:03:23.400 Kalani W: of our citizens and not kowtow. 2548 04:03:23.760 --> 04:03:37.500 Kalani W: and be held hostage by 1% of squatters when I moved here, I did my due diligence what could I afford I lived in Hawthorne I didn't move to the West side, thank you. 2549 04:03:37.920 --> 04:03:45.420 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks kalani and our last speaker in public comment, after which we will close public comment is Erica more go ahead Erica. 2550 04:03:47.010 --> 04:03:58.410 Erica Moore: hi there um yeah I mean like my beliefs are that you know the libraries to be used as the library I don't think anybody should be not allowed to go and use the library. 2551 04:03:59.730 --> 04:04:00.000 Erica Moore: Oh. 2552 04:04:00.270 --> 04:04:01.410 Daffodil Tyminski: Eric i'm so sorry. 2553 04:04:02.910 --> 04:04:04.470 Daffodil Tyminski: allowed to go ahead and use the library. 2554 04:04:04.980 --> 04:04:05.550 Erica Moore: Oh hi. 2555 04:04:05.580 --> 04:04:07.440 Daffodil Tyminski: My bad sorry I accidentally hit me it on you. 2556 04:04:07.470 --> 04:04:08.700 Erica Moore: Do you mind starting me over just. 2557 04:04:09.330 --> 04:04:11.730 Daffodil Tyminski: To keep it bro yeah yeah sure sorry. 2558 04:04:11.760 --> 04:04:18.240 Erica Moore: OK OK, so I don't even know what you heard me save it all just started, I just want to say that the library she'd be used as the library. 2559 04:04:18.750 --> 04:04:26.370 Erica Moore: And one of the things is that, obviously, if somebody there and they're homeless is warehouses and they're using the library and they using the bathroom okay that's fine um but. 2560 04:04:26.850 --> 04:04:32.220 Erica Moore: As far as living outside of it and keeping their belongings, that is not the place for that I absolutely. 2561 04:04:32.820 --> 04:04:37.650 Erica Moore: believe that the city needs to provide some sort of facility for people that are houses. 2562 04:04:37.950 --> 04:04:48.390 Erica Moore: or their things and for them to use for bathrooms and to have showers and things like that, but the library is not that place, one thing that people don't consider is that it is a health hazard. 2563 04:04:49.050 --> 04:04:58.560 Erica Moore: The health department, when there was a houses person outside of a business like mine, they make us clean up their things Okay, because it's a health issue we get cited. 2564 04:04:58.890 --> 04:05:10.320 Erica Moore: For that, if there are things are outside, so I can't imagine that the library doesn't have some liability as well, unfortunately, you don't ask, so I do support this motion. 2565 04:05:10.350 --> 04:05:11.580 jim murez: Thank Thank you Erica. 2566 04:05:13.920 --> 04:05:16.440 Daffodil Tyminski: Erica will that will close public comment. 2567 04:05:17.550 --> 04:05:18.120 jim murez: Thank you. 2568 04:05:19.950 --> 04:05:20.460 jim murez: um. 2569 04:05:21.750 --> 04:05:30.870 jim murez: Does anybody on the board have a comment i'll take them in the order the hands, that I see I see Clark Jim Robin Jay markley head. 2570 04:05:31.200 --> 04:05:35.490 Clark Brown: I think it's important to keep in mind that this amendment, as well as the rest of. 2571 04:05:37.050 --> 04:05:54.240 Clark Brown: Is unenforceable unless the city provides places to work, these people can be moved and it does not have to be housing as Lisa redmond suggests it's sufficient if it's hotel rooms, or if it's safe camping sites where they can receive. 2572 04:05:54.900 --> 04:06:08.400 Clark Brown: Services and treatment so unless there are any problem is that the fittest neighborhood Council is not doing anything on this issue of funding alternative places for these people, including safe camping sites. 2573 04:06:10.830 --> 04:06:13.200 jim murez: Thank you Clark Jim go ahead, please. 2574 04:06:14.760 --> 04:06:15.810 Jim Robb: I think the library. 2575 04:06:17.040 --> 04:06:29.580 Jim Robb: library my wife would go to yoga over there with bunches of ladies that would come from the canals and you know, we need more bathrooms and all that, but I think the bathroom need to be on the beach Thank you. 2576 04:06:31.170 --> 04:06:32.910 jim murez: Thank you Jay go ahead. 2577 04:06:34.050 --> 04:06:44.130 Jay Handal: or just you know I like clarification because I heard some people talk about you know I can park my car in front, but they can park their car in front. 2578 04:06:44.910 --> 04:07:00.270 Jay Handal: I think what this motion says is you can't sit live sleep or store personal property in or upon any street sidewalk or other public right of way within 500 feet of a library. 2579 04:07:01.050 --> 04:07:08.220 Jay Handal: That doesn't mean that a homeless person living in their car cannot pull up in front of the library park. 2580 04:07:08.700 --> 04:07:18.630 Jay Handal: Going use the library and come out and leave it means they can't live in that parking space in front of the library. 2581 04:07:19.140 --> 04:07:26.520 Jay Handal: So I don't think there's anybody based on this I don't think there's anybody going to be precluded from using the library. 2582 04:07:27.180 --> 04:07:45.930 Jay Handal: I don't think there's anybody going to be precluded from being able to come and park and then leave and use the library, I think this is merely a camping situation so that it's a safer environment for everybody to be able to use the library. 2583 04:07:47.280 --> 04:08:01.380 Jay Handal: And I looked up and I just saw that the FAA did approve certain lots for safe camping down by la X, there was an article in spectrum back in February of this year. 2584 04:08:01.890 --> 04:08:20.460 Jay Handal: about the FAA approving certain laws for safe camping, so I think that's something maybe if the homeless committee is not aware of, they can look at and make some recommendations, but based on this, I would fully support this motion. 2585 04:08:21.870 --> 04:08:22.590 jim murez: Thank you Jay. 2586 04:08:23.700 --> 04:08:28.110 jim murez: um any other committee comment before we take a vote. 2587 04:08:30.180 --> 04:08:31.710 Daffodil Tyminski: I see no hands up Jim. 2588 04:08:32.250 --> 04:08:37.020 jim murez: James you could drop your hand that'd be appreciated does anybody want to abstain from this. 2589 04:08:38.250 --> 04:08:40.950 jim murez: let's do this by roll call this time daffodil. 2590 04:08:41.700 --> 04:08:42.330 Yes. 2591 04:08:44.220 --> 04:08:44.940 jim murez: Melissa. 2592 04:08:45.150 --> 04:08:46.110 Yes. 2593 04:08:47.310 --> 04:08:47.880 jim murez: Okay. 2594 04:08:48.030 --> 04:08:48.480 Yes. 2595 04:08:49.680 --> 04:08:50.280 jim murez: vicki. 2596 04:08:52.980 --> 04:08:53.550 Vicki Halliday: Yes. 2597 04:08:54.810 --> 04:08:55.440 jim murez: Bruno. 2598 04:08:55.590 --> 04:08:56.160 Yes. 2599 04:08:58.020 --> 04:08:58.710 jim murez: rob. 2600 04:08:59.670 --> 04:09:00.300 Yes. 2601 04:09:01.980 --> 04:09:02.490 jim murez: Jason. 2602 04:09:08.970 --> 04:09:09.720 Jim Robb: Jason. 2603 04:09:13.680 --> 04:09:14.250 jim murez: Le. 2604 04:09:15.180 --> 04:09:15.570 Yes. 2605 04:09:17.250 --> 04:09:17.880 Alley Bean: Mike. 2606 04:09:20.730 --> 04:09:21.600 jim murez: So without. 2607 04:09:22.170 --> 04:09:24.540 jim murez: Yes, cj. 2608 04:09:24.810 --> 04:09:25.440 Yes. 2609 04:09:26.610 --> 04:09:27.420 jim murez: Elizabeth. 2610 04:09:28.020 --> 04:09:30.210 jim murez: Yes, Robert. 2611 04:09:30.360 --> 04:09:32.460 robertthibodeau: Yes, Clark. 2612 04:09:32.700 --> 04:09:33.270 Yes. 2613 04:09:34.470 --> 04:09:35.280 jim murez: The kill. 2614 04:09:39.840 --> 04:09:43.530 Daffodil Tyminski: Jim I think mchale and Jason are no longer in the meeting. 2615 04:09:44.160 --> 04:09:47.430 jim murez: Okay, so I will go ahead and vote. 2616 04:09:47.640 --> 04:09:49.080 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, and. 2617 04:09:49.200 --> 04:09:50.160 jim murez: We will call it. 2618 04:09:51.480 --> 04:10:02.250 jim murez: That it's 13 00 i'm revise motion for lockers this was brought to us by the homeless committee. 2619 04:10:04.590 --> 04:10:05.970 jim murez: Who would like to make the motion. 2620 04:10:10.560 --> 04:10:11.130 jim murez: Anybody. 2621 04:10:11.850 --> 04:10:13.410 Vicki Halliday: i'll make the motion Jim. 2622 04:10:13.830 --> 04:10:14.730 jim murez: Thank you vicki. 2623 04:10:15.060 --> 04:10:15.420 Also. 2624 04:10:16.980 --> 04:10:17.580 jim murez: Robert. 2625 04:10:24.000 --> 04:10:37.500 jim murez: Do we need somebody to read the motion motion city plus as provide safe, secure pain lockers for the local on house using you know already existing nonprofits providing services in the Venice community. 2626 04:10:39.180 --> 04:10:39.900 jim murez: i'm. 2627 04:10:41.610 --> 04:10:43.440 jim murez: definitely do we have any hands on this one. 2628 04:10:45.600 --> 04:10:45.990 Daffodil Tyminski: We do. 2629 04:10:47.190 --> 04:10:50.820 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm shauna Brian why don't you go first go ahead. 2630 04:10:56.520 --> 04:11:20.520 Sean Obrien: Yes, hi Oh, I was I attended a homeless committee meeting when this came up and it brought me back probably about five years or so, when bond and tried to push in storage for homeless people at the senior Center and dog park i'm Westminster apart. 2631 04:11:21.720 --> 04:11:30.150 Sean Obrien: So I was against it because of that, if you put this through through the city So the first thing they're going to do is they're going to try to revitalize that and make. 2632 04:11:30.780 --> 04:11:46.530 Sean Obrien: Make the senior Center homeless storage it first came up to the homeless Committee as a place for people to like a what he call it like a safety deposit box and place to store personal papers ID and. 2633 04:11:47.100 --> 04:12:03.210 Sean Obrien: Maybe prescription medication now the motions gone full blown into lockers, so I do not support this based on that, unless you provide a distinct location, which also was raised for St joseph's Center. 2634 04:12:03.270 --> 04:12:04.380 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, thank you Sean. 2635 04:12:06.300 --> 04:12:09.270 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm don't developer go ahead. 2636 04:12:12.870 --> 04:12:14.400 Goat Nigger Developer: full support of this. 2637 04:12:16.680 --> 04:12:18.120 Goat Nigger Developer: This is a prick know. 2638 04:12:19.500 --> 04:12:36.030 Goat Nigger Developer: portal of this, but the location of it that's The important thing, and I have a perfect place to put it, a place for homeless would love to go and they would behave themselves Catalina island. 2639 04:12:37.980 --> 04:12:51.540 Goat Nigger Developer: It like a typical a nice pretty boat ride down from San Pedro and CD 15 to go get their thing and have a lovely day on the island and then return. 2640 04:12:53.070 --> 04:13:12.090 Goat Nigger Developer: Why Venice would be free, they would start going over there and loving i'm a lively iowan lifestyle and there's lots of democrat voters there and they wouldn't be welcome, therefore, good public close the location will be avalon Catalina iowa. 2641 04:13:13.410 --> 04:13:14.790 Goat Nigger Developer: Wonderful Thank you. 2642 04:13:14.850 --> 04:13:15.360 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 2643 04:13:17.310 --> 04:13:18.390 Daffodil Tyminski: Liz right go ahead. 2644 04:13:21.450 --> 04:13:41.670 Elizabeth Wright: Look, the homeless committee deliberately left this rather broad to give the Sunni an opportunity to figure out the size, shape and so forth, of these places, what really is important is that the people have a place to put their critical papers there. 2645 04:13:43.110 --> 04:13:55.050 Elizabeth Wright: vaccine for information, their drivers license things that they don't want to carry on their person, but they will have to produce the original at some point for an important occasion. 2646 04:13:56.070 --> 04:13:56.430 Elizabeth Wright: Thank you. 2647 04:13:59.100 --> 04:14:00.090 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Elizabeth. 2648 04:14:01.230 --> 04:14:03.960 Daffodil Tyminski: Margaret little boy once you go next go ahead. 2649 04:14:05.700 --> 04:14:12.420 Margaret Molloy: hi appreciate what live said, but I think that that's reducing the problems that homeless people face to. 2650 04:14:12.990 --> 04:14:24.180 Margaret Molloy: The very minimum, and it is true that in all of these purging sanitation sweeps they are taking people's medications and documents personal photos. 2651 04:14:24.570 --> 04:14:34.170 Margaret Molloy: So yeah a little say storage would be great, but that doesn't solve a problem I just sent you guys an email, not everybody who's homeless, has a car So how do they access the library. 2652 04:14:34.620 --> 04:14:45.660 Margaret Molloy: You know, can you bring a cart in there it's it's becoming like whack a mole and the objective is disappear people evidently out of your you know you shed. 2653 04:14:46.260 --> 04:14:53.820 Margaret Molloy: But these are human beings, and they need a compassionate response from this community, who has historically been compassionate. 2654 04:14:54.390 --> 04:15:09.570 Margaret Molloy: And they need larger storage than safety boxes, although that's one aspect of it, so I think you need to all proactively be looking at where in the Venice area is the storage, you took it away from the volleyball I am will imports, thank you. 2655 04:15:10.110 --> 04:15:10.860 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Margaret. 2656 04:15:11.970 --> 04:15:18.030 Daffodil Tyminski: And last and we'll close public comment after this is kalani w go ahead Connie. 2657 04:15:19.740 --> 04:15:29.250 Kalani W: I don't know how many of you remember brianna cofer, who was the UCLA student who was stabbed by a homeless person earlier in the year. 2658 04:15:29.640 --> 04:15:39.240 Kalani W: She was only 24 years old, she was stabbed 26 times more than what each more than for each year, she she lived. 2659 04:15:40.140 --> 04:15:56.760 Kalani W: We are dealing with mental health and drug abuse issues on our streets and we're talking about where they're going to store their things instead of actually building mental health facilities and mandating treatment. 2660 04:15:58.710 --> 04:16:10.830 Kalani W: Where are you going to put these storage facilities that's only going to cause them to congregate to that area then they'll fight over the storage facility who's going to oversee the storage facility. 2661 04:16:11.190 --> 04:16:25.170 Kalani W: This is madness, I do not support this, I support men dating treatment, we are playing Russian roulette with having these people on our streets. 2662 04:16:25.230 --> 04:16:26.310 Daffodil Tyminski: Fake ronnie. 2663 04:16:30.240 --> 04:16:31.680 jim murez: You said that was the last one. 2664 04:16:32.340 --> 04:16:34.890 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, it was yes, she was the last speaker. 2665 04:16:35.250 --> 04:16:37.380 jim murez: Public comment on that item is closed. 2666 04:16:38.610 --> 04:16:43.080 jim murez: We have some hands up, starting with Jim rob and then vicki go ahead, Jim. 2667 04:16:43.470 --> 04:16:54.420 Jim Robb: Okay i'm really confused on this one are we looking for small four by four boxes these people can put their documents and all their stuff in what are we talking. 2668 04:16:55.020 --> 04:17:04.920 Jim Robb: storage containers like that were behind the volleyball courts, they only could put about two people stuff in them so i'm confused what kind of locker is it I don't. 2669 04:17:04.920 --> 04:17:09.510 jim murez: understand what should the motion is on the screen, can you see that or Do I need to enlarge. 2670 04:17:09.540 --> 04:17:11.820 Jim Robb: yeah I read it, it doesn't say what size they're. 2671 04:17:11.820 --> 04:17:12.750 Jim Robb: Talking about. 2672 04:17:12.960 --> 04:17:14.730 jim murez: It doesn't talk about size. 2673 04:17:14.760 --> 04:17:22.650 Jim Robb: It doesn't talk about I would be for putting boxes in the library, I mean the old post office we could put them there and they could go in there. 2674 04:17:24.660 --> 04:17:28.530 Jim Robb: yeah big storage places we don't have any, we need to find a place. 2675 04:17:29.460 --> 04:17:32.010 jim murez: The old post office is private property now. 2676 04:17:32.730 --> 04:17:33.240 Jim Robb: I know that. 2677 04:17:34.590 --> 04:17:36.870 jim murez: Okay i'm vicki go ahead. 2678 04:17:37.350 --> 04:17:51.150 Vicki Halliday: um I agree with with the thought behind this, but once again I don't believe it's worked out well enough um that it's something that we should send to the city so i'll be voting now on. 2679 04:17:53.190 --> 04:17:53.970 jim murez: Clark go ahead. 2680 04:17:54.270 --> 04:18:01.740 Clark Brown: This is not a detailed motion but I don't think a detailed motion is necessary at this point, I think what is necessary is to. 2681 04:18:02.370 --> 04:18:10.320 Clark Brown: State as a general proposition that we're going to try to provide lockers were homeless people can store their personal property. 2682 04:18:10.680 --> 04:18:21.420 Clark Brown: But we don't want that property on our streets and in our parks and we have to provide someplace where it can be stored, and this is a small first step in that direction. 2683 04:18:23.220 --> 04:18:26.010 jim murez: Thank you clerk alley go ahead, please. 2684 04:18:26.400 --> 04:18:31.860 Alley Bean: yeah I mean, I think that it does need to be more specific, though, because I think it could get. 2685 04:18:33.150 --> 04:18:43.260 Alley Bean: I just think that it's a need, but it but, but so much has been the details of the location what they are and who's going to manage everything. 2686 04:18:44.550 --> 04:18:52.740 Alley Bean: Because unmanaged it could be a nightmare that needs to be managed it needs to be figured out in a comprehensive way that's my feeling. 2687 04:18:52.800 --> 04:18:58.890 jim murez: Thank you, Jim alley and vicki if you could put your hands down, it would be appreciated beth don't go ahead. 2688 04:19:00.150 --> 04:19:11.370 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, I don't want to rehash what people have said about this being too vague and and you know there's been a number of comments that I agree with on that issue, I also feel like. 2689 04:19:11.910 --> 04:19:19.770 Daffodil Tyminski: Some of the nonprofit's do have actual limitations in their use for their properties, about being able to do things like this. 2690 04:19:20.850 --> 04:19:28.140 Daffodil Tyminski: Because way back in the day when they were established the I they were established to not be magnets for. 2691 04:19:28.740 --> 04:19:39.390 Daffodil Tyminski: You know, future homeless services so i'm not even sure that I am i'm trying to understand the language of emotion, but is it if it is to establish storage at nonprofits i'm not even sure that that's possible. 2692 04:19:40.800 --> 04:19:49.620 Daffodil Tyminski: So you know I appreciate the thought within reason but I don't think this motion establishes something specific enough for us to vote on. 2693 04:19:53.940 --> 04:19:54.360 jim murez: Robert. 2694 04:19:58.440 --> 04:20:01.020 robertthibodeau: I completely agree with kalani I mean. 2695 04:20:02.760 --> 04:20:04.560 robertthibodeau: The the idea. 2696 04:20:06.180 --> 04:20:09.840 robertthibodeau: Of sort of Willy nilly just keeping providing. 2697 04:20:10.890 --> 04:20:12.210 robertthibodeau: sort of voluntary. 2698 04:20:14.490 --> 04:20:25.200 robertthibodeau: benefits to those who aren't seeking to improve their situation through treatment and employment and all the sort of. 2699 04:20:26.670 --> 04:20:31.500 robertthibodeau: You know paths to participating in society we're just giving them more stuff. 2700 04:20:32.520 --> 04:20:36.930 robertthibodeau: And we're very little return and all we've seen in the past is. 2701 04:20:38.310 --> 04:20:43.890 robertthibodeau: sort of good goodwill on our part being abused by the. 2702 04:20:45.360 --> 04:20:49.020 robertthibodeau: By sort of the powers that be so i'm going to vote no on this. 2703 04:20:50.400 --> 04:20:51.690 jim murez: Thank you, Robert i'm. 2704 04:20:51.990 --> 04:20:56.580 jim murez: Jason I see your hand is up you weren't here for the last vote I guess you're back go ahead Jason. 2705 04:20:57.810 --> 04:21:03.960 Jason Sugars: Quick note I I in voluntarily got kicked I don't know what happened when I spoke, I was ready sorry about that um. 2706 04:21:04.410 --> 04:21:15.720 Jason Sugars: For this one is this, or is this not one of those one of the instances where we would be able to make a motion to send this back to committee for further detail is that something that's possible to do or do we just have to vote as and go for it. 2707 04:21:16.920 --> 04:21:17.340 jim murez: well. 2708 04:21:17.430 --> 04:21:29.400 jim murez: We would normally just voted as it is, and if they wanted to bring effect they could we could send it back to them for additional refinement I you know, I think that that's the message if we don't vote it up. 2709 04:21:31.260 --> 04:21:38.130 jim murez: If they want to work on it, I mean it's part of the committee's you know idea of how to deal with it, if they hear from us that. 2710 04:21:38.610 --> 04:21:51.630 jim murez: You know that the comments are coming out of what you know people are saying, or the shortcomings, if they wanted to revise it, they could bring it back as a new motion that's always true, as long as they don't bring back the same motion, they can bring it back. 2711 04:21:53.370 --> 04:21:53.940 Jason Sugars: Okay, thanks. 2712 04:21:55.590 --> 04:21:57.930 jim murez: James Jay your hand is up and Robert your hand is still up. 2713 04:21:59.700 --> 04:22:01.350 jim murez: Okay Jay go ahead. 2714 04:22:04.110 --> 04:22:13.470 Jay Handal: When you when you look at the first line under the description, it says motion to allow secure storage for homeless in Venice. 2715 04:22:14.070 --> 04:22:23.220 Jay Handal: And then the motion underneath goes into provide safe, secure maintain lockers for the local on house using the already established nonprofits. 2716 04:22:23.760 --> 04:22:39.210 Jay Handal: I agree that it's vague that you know the size of the lockers the location of the lockers identifying people giving homeless services, you know in Venice is important. 2717 04:22:39.930 --> 04:22:52.830 Jay Handal: I think the question is, are we trying to pass a motion to tell a city Look, we just need to have some lockers for these people, so they have a place to securely store their belongings. 2718 04:22:53.580 --> 04:23:06.870 Jay Handal: You know, is this can this be used as just the first step in working with the city to identify location size and and need so that. 2719 04:23:07.830 --> 04:23:18.480 Jay Handal: This it's on the city's radar that the neighborhood Council is in favor of finding some place to put some size lockers to help the people. 2720 04:23:18.960 --> 04:23:24.720 Jay Handal: You know, and to have them do it through either losses St joseph's path whomever. 2721 04:23:25.680 --> 04:23:42.180 Jay Handal: To give people a secure place to put things I think that's what we really have to look at are we trying to really define the size, the depth the place, or are we just saying to the city there's a need for lockers let's work together to find the right solution. 2722 04:23:43.260 --> 04:23:45.450 Jay Handal: And and craft that motion accordingly. 2723 04:23:45.780 --> 04:23:51.750 jim murez: Thank you Jay I, I will say that I agree that the motion is not crafted the way that. 2724 04:23:53.610 --> 04:23:59.070 jim murez: It would need to be in my mind to define what we're asking the city to do. 2725 04:24:00.270 --> 04:24:07.590 jim murez: I you know, I think that it's true that a lot of the nonprofit's that that provide services don't necessarily have. 2726 04:24:10.380 --> 04:24:19.710 jim murez: The wherewithal to be able to also provide lockers maybe they do I mean, then, his family clinic is a very large organization. 2727 04:24:20.220 --> 04:24:28.920 jim murez: But I don't believe that they have the wherewithal being a healthcare provider to be able to provide storage facilities for people's belongings. 2728 04:24:29.610 --> 04:24:36.870 jim murez: Now they may have short term storage facilities, while they're in there visiting but the motion doesn't really address. 2729 04:24:37.440 --> 04:24:43.020 jim murez: What kind of services would be provided at what locations and how many and how big and. 2730 04:24:43.740 --> 04:24:57.420 jim murez: I have to agree with one of the comments that was made with from an earlier speaker where this just feels like it's opening pandora's box to bring 60 gallon containers back into Westminster. 2731 04:24:57.840 --> 04:25:13.380 jim murez: Senior Center and and that's what was proposed last and and you know the the city was just going to do well as the councilman was going to do his thing and put 60 gallon trash containers which don't necessarily stack very well into. 2732 04:25:14.850 --> 04:25:23.310 jim murez: A completely rehab rehabilitated the senior Center you know, a nice nice facility, where they spent millions of dollars fixing it up. 2733 04:25:23.580 --> 04:25:28.320 jim murez: So i'm going to vote no on this because I don't believe that it's detailed enough. 2734 04:25:28.680 --> 04:25:36.120 jim murez: And it doesn't go into enough detail and and and in detail, it needs to also address how many of these things, you know how many people, is it going to serve. 2735 04:25:36.420 --> 04:25:44.790 jim murez: and for how long is that service there do they get to store the stuff for our for a week for a month, you know, can they just leave it and come back in five years. 2736 04:25:46.410 --> 04:25:53.580 jim murez: These are the kinds of things that I know that the tiny home facilities that do have storage facilities for people. 2737 04:25:54.720 --> 04:25:58.320 jim murez: have already defined and there's been a lot of that definition. 2738 04:25:59.340 --> 04:26:09.300 jim murez: that's been created, can the city's working with it and it works this doesn't go there, but this just says open the door, and do you want so i'm gonna vote no. 2739 04:26:09.840 --> 04:26:17.370 jim murez: I don't see any other hands up Jay assume your hand is ready to come down because you've spoken already let's take a vote on this. 2740 04:26:24.390 --> 04:26:28.050 jim murez: let's do a roll call i'm not sure who still here daffodil. 2741 04:26:28.680 --> 04:26:29.130 Daffodil Tyminski: I know. 2742 04:26:31.140 --> 04:26:31.950 jim murez: Melissa. 2743 04:26:35.460 --> 04:26:36.090 jim murez: Melissa. 2744 04:26:37.950 --> 04:26:39.300 Daffodil Tyminski: Melissa is here. 2745 04:26:40.050 --> 04:26:40.380 Now. 2746 04:26:41.610 --> 04:26:42.750 jim murez: Was that you've Melissa. 2747 04:26:44.190 --> 04:26:45.900 melissa diner : Yes, no okay. 2748 04:26:47.010 --> 04:26:47.700 jim murez: Jay. 2749 04:26:48.000 --> 04:26:48.390 know. 2750 04:26:49.560 --> 04:26:50.100 jim murez: vicki. 2751 04:26:50.490 --> 04:26:52.230 jim murez: Know Bruno. 2752 04:26:52.410 --> 04:26:52.770 know. 2753 04:26:54.090 --> 04:26:54.840 jim murez: Jim rob. 2754 04:26:55.380 --> 04:26:55.800 Now. 2755 04:26:57.450 --> 04:26:59.370 Jason Sugars: Jason sugars, no. 2756 04:27:00.540 --> 04:27:01.410 jim murez: Le been. 2757 04:27:01.890 --> 04:27:02.430 No. 2758 04:27:03.480 --> 04:27:04.500 Mike bravo. 2759 04:27:06.690 --> 04:27:07.380 jim murez: soda. 2760 04:27:07.950 --> 04:27:08.490 No. 2761 04:27:10.200 --> 04:27:11.010 jim murez: cj. 2762 04:27:11.310 --> 04:27:11.970 Now. 2763 04:27:13.410 --> 04:27:14.190 Soledad Ursua: Elizabeth. 2764 04:27:14.730 --> 04:27:16.680 jim murez: Know robber. 2765 04:27:17.790 --> 04:27:18.240 robertthibodeau: know. 2766 04:27:19.260 --> 04:27:19.920 robertthibodeau: Clark. 2767 04:27:20.160 --> 04:27:20.640 Yes. 2768 04:27:22.860 --> 04:27:23.490 jim murez: kill. 2769 04:27:28.830 --> 04:27:29.700 robertthibodeau: You might be oh. 2770 04:27:29.940 --> 04:27:31.380 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I think michela is not here. 2771 04:27:34.230 --> 04:27:35.700 jim murez: And i'm going to vote no. 2772 04:27:39.240 --> 04:27:45.810 jim murez: So the motion fails 113 Sarah. 2773 04:27:48.480 --> 04:27:50.730 jim murez: That almost concludes our meeting. 2774 04:27:52.260 --> 04:27:59.940 jim murez: The time now is 1021 does anyone have any comments about items, not on the agenda. 2775 04:28:00.450 --> 04:28:04.800 robertthibodeau: Jim we've got a the items that were pulled off of consent, we. 2776 04:28:04.800 --> 04:28:08.100 robertthibodeau: Have a two or three items that were pulled off of consent earlier. 2777 04:28:08.220 --> 04:28:10.710 jim murez: Thank you, thank you you're right so. 2778 04:28:12.240 --> 04:28:12.450 jim murez: That. 2779 04:28:12.690 --> 04:28:14.400 jim murez: Was ghost puppet and he. 2780 04:28:14.610 --> 04:28:17.790 robertthibodeau: Was 1415 and 16 Thank you. 2781 04:28:17.820 --> 04:28:18.480 Robert. 2782 04:28:34.920 --> 04:28:36.540 jim murez: Working historic bridge. 2783 04:28:37.110 --> 04:28:39.690 jim murez: And canal park motion. 2784 04:28:40.470 --> 04:28:44.220 melissa diner : It was Lisa if she's not here don't don't they just passed. 2785 04:28:45.630 --> 04:28:47.700 jim murez: yeah is Lisa redmond still here. 2786 04:28:48.180 --> 04:28:49.230 Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa is still here. 2787 04:28:50.820 --> 04:28:52.830 jim murez: So let's go ahead and hear this. 2788 04:28:54.240 --> 04:28:56.070 jim murez: Oh, the motion. 2789 04:28:57.810 --> 04:28:58.830 jim murez: Is Robin your is still. 2790 04:28:58.830 --> 04:29:00.660 Daffodil Tyminski: Here yeah she is. 2791 04:29:03.960 --> 04:29:05.130 jim murez: Somebody want to make motion. 2792 04:29:05.370 --> 04:29:07.260 CJ Cole: I need your recuse. 2793 04:29:10.620 --> 04:29:11.280 jim murez: Okay. 2794 04:29:11.610 --> 04:29:12.450 Alley Bean: And So do I. 2795 04:29:13.380 --> 04:29:14.640 jim murez: hold on one second. 2796 04:29:21.030 --> 04:29:28.170 jim murez: cj is recusing, by the way, when you reach us the city attorney says, you need to turn off your microphone. 2797 04:29:28.290 --> 04:29:29.010 Alley Bean: And camera. 2798 04:29:30.270 --> 04:29:36.090 Daffodil Tyminski: And they you may want to I I know why, but for the record, you may want to explain why you're recusing. 2799 04:29:38.610 --> 04:29:39.570 jim murez: it's not a bad idea. 2800 04:29:40.110 --> 04:29:42.030 CJ Cole: Because i'm within 1000 feet. 2801 04:29:42.870 --> 04:29:43.530 Alley Bean: So am I. 2802 04:29:44.100 --> 04:29:44.820 jim murez: Thank you ellie. 2803 04:29:46.050 --> 04:29:47.730 camera and microphone refuses. 2804 04:29:49.050 --> 04:29:49.590 jim murez: i'm. 2805 04:29:51.270 --> 04:29:51.750 jim murez: Okay. 2806 04:29:52.620 --> 04:29:54.060 jim murez: i'm gotten there to reach uses. 2807 04:30:00.240 --> 04:30:02.220 jim murez: For the Venice neighborhood Council requested the. 2808 04:30:02.220 --> 04:30:04.290 jim murez: department of recreation and parks. 2809 04:30:05.100 --> 04:30:09.660 jim murez: In control of this unique site to create an environmental sound park what. 2810 04:30:10.170 --> 04:30:14.280 jim murez: accessible to the general public recognized its historical, cultural features. 2811 04:30:15.510 --> 04:30:20.310 jim murez: With imperative signage interpretive signage excuse me, and with senior. 2812 04:30:20.550 --> 04:30:21.810 jim murez: Please landscaping. 2813 04:30:22.530 --> 04:30:22.950 Daffodil Tyminski: As far. 2814 04:30:24.270 --> 04:30:28.710 jim murez: As what pick a lodge ecology of the canal. 2815 04:30:29.130 --> 04:30:35.790 jim murez: to watch boats for recreation and maintenance to enjoy cool beverage and to continue. 2816 04:30:36.870 --> 04:30:48.150 jim murez: Over the over the historic bridge funding is available, we asked public restrooms to be built, under the bridge i'll pose or wherever feasible. 2817 04:30:50.700 --> 04:30:57.240 Daffodil Tyminski: Jim this is definitely, I think, from the motion it's unclear as to what bridge this is or where it is. 2818 04:30:59.340 --> 04:31:01.020 Daffodil Tyminski: I think we need to find the motion. 2819 04:31:06.900 --> 04:31:07.530 jim murez: Was. 2820 04:31:09.030 --> 04:31:14.070 jim murez: Is the stork bridging canal park motion here right now between North and South, Venice. 2821 04:31:14.070 --> 04:31:19.530 Jim Robb: boulevard part it's the parking lot where they're going to build the median. 2822 04:31:20.100 --> 04:31:20.940 Daffodil Tyminski: Up okay. 2823 04:31:21.840 --> 04:31:24.270 Jim Robb: Good that's the bridge that goes over the. 2824 04:31:24.900 --> 04:31:26.370 Jim Robb: Very first part of the canal. 2825 04:31:26.610 --> 04:31:28.110 Jim Robb: So maybe self, that is. 2826 04:31:28.170 --> 04:31:36.120 Daffodil Tyminski: Maybe Jim We just need to add in the language, where we described the bridge we describe it as the bridge traversing grand canal between North and South, Venice boulevard. 2827 04:31:47.250 --> 04:31:51.450 Daffodil Tyminski: So I would say to take on control of the bridge traversing. 2828 04:31:52.650 --> 04:31:54.180 Daffodil Tyminski: Grand canal between. 2829 04:32:08.310 --> 04:32:09.150 Daffodil Tyminski: there's an A there. 2830 04:32:14.160 --> 04:32:15.780 Jim Robb: What number is this motion, please. 2831 04:32:17.850 --> 04:32:19.350 Daffodil Tyminski: Think it's 14 but. 2832 04:32:23.820 --> 04:32:24.390 jim murez: i'm. 2833 04:32:26.640 --> 04:32:27.960 jim murez: I guess just a comma. 2834 04:32:39.930 --> 04:32:41.970 Daffodil Tyminski: it's still a little awkwardly worded. 2835 04:32:45.270 --> 04:32:45.780 Daffodil Tyminski: um. 2836 04:32:55.530 --> 04:33:00.240 Jim Robb: she's trying to make it a showcase where the bathrooms underneath and all of that. 2837 04:33:01.050 --> 04:33:01.560 yeah. 2838 04:33:03.090 --> 04:33:03.750 Daffodil Tyminski: I just don't know. 2839 04:33:04.170 --> 04:33:04.980 Jim Robb: The words in there. 2840 04:33:05.850 --> 04:33:07.020 Jim Robb: there's a lot of words in there. 2841 04:33:07.800 --> 04:33:10.260 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I think parkland is spelt in properly. 2842 04:33:10.890 --> 04:33:12.480 jim murez: Or would you spell park correctly. 2843 04:33:13.290 --> 04:33:15.180 Daffodil Tyminski: I think it's just PA rk le T. 2844 04:33:19.500 --> 04:33:20.100 Daffodil Tyminski: that's. 2845 04:33:20.190 --> 04:33:23.100 Daffodil Tyminski: Good that's something else PA rk le ti. 2846 04:33:24.930 --> 04:33:25.560 Daffodil Tyminski: m. 2847 04:33:31.560 --> 04:33:31.830 jim murez: Wait. 2848 04:33:36.090 --> 04:33:38.190 Daffodil Tyminski: that's fine whatever it's fine there you go. 2849 04:33:40.410 --> 04:33:44.790 Jim Robb: there's going to be bathrooms and tourists that there needs to be security. 2850 04:33:48.390 --> 04:33:51.090 Jim Robb: They gets a bigger bigger than we can. 2851 04:33:53.100 --> 04:33:53.430 Jim Robb: Do. 2852 04:33:57.060 --> 04:33:58.620 jim murez: Where does it talk about storage. 2853 04:34:00.750 --> 04:34:05.700 Daffodil Tyminski: know I think he said persons, I also think the part about to enjoy cool beverage you know that I. 2854 04:34:05.730 --> 04:34:09.720 Daffodil Tyminski: Probably strike that but it's not maybe we let we let the presenter of the motion present. 2855 04:34:11.550 --> 04:34:20.580 jim murez: Well, we need to have somebody make the motion for first I was just trying to identify where the ritual is located word smithing it. 2856 04:34:21.450 --> 04:34:22.530 jim murez: We can't do without. 2857 04:34:22.530 --> 04:34:29.760 Jim Robb: Making this, this is all part of the design that they have for the the whole hundred and 80 units. 2858 04:34:30.300 --> 04:34:33.540 Jim Robb: Then they're going to have a bridge with making plays underneath. 2859 04:34:33.840 --> 04:34:36.540 jim murez: Jim just a SEC, we need somebody to make. 2860 04:34:36.540 --> 04:34:37.290 jim murez: The motion. 2861 04:34:39.660 --> 04:34:40.740 Vicki Halliday: i'll make the motion. 2862 04:34:41.940 --> 04:34:42.420 Jim Robb: demotion. 2863 04:34:42.990 --> 04:34:48.180 jim murez: Thank you vicki and Jim rob seconds, the motion, thank you, Jim. 2864 04:34:51.540 --> 04:34:58.320 jim murez: Does anybody have any questions about the motion before we take public comment anybody on the board. 2865 04:35:01.770 --> 04:35:02.190 jim murez: seat. 2866 04:35:02.550 --> 04:35:02.820 Jim Robb: In the. 2867 04:35:03.540 --> 04:35:05.190 jim murez: Public comment, if there is any. 2868 04:35:08.910 --> 04:35:09.810 Daffodil Tyminski: There is public comment. 2869 04:35:11.790 --> 04:35:14.370 Daffodil Tyminski: And why don't we let Robin go first and present this. 2870 04:35:15.720 --> 04:35:16.260 jim murez: um. 2871 04:35:18.390 --> 04:35:18.870 jim murez: well. 2872 04:35:19.230 --> 04:35:21.000 jim murez: she's the presenter she's the. 2873 04:35:21.240 --> 04:35:25.620 jim murez: person from the committee she can just go ahead and present I don't need to run the clock on that. 2874 04:35:26.130 --> 04:35:26.610 Or at least. 2875 04:35:27.900 --> 04:35:34.980 Daffodil Tyminski: don't need to tell I hear you that but i'm just saying we should let her go first and then we can take them and based on her presentation want to go ahead and present the project. 2876 04:35:38.370 --> 04:35:38.730 jim murez: yeah. 2877 04:35:39.180 --> 04:35:40.080 jim murez: it's pretty much. 2878 04:35:41.820 --> 04:35:44.640 Preserving Public Places Committee: So i'm Jim can you pull up the. 2879 04:35:45.720 --> 04:35:48.930 Preserving Public Places Committee: The motion from the website, because that. 2880 04:35:49.290 --> 04:35:49.380 You. 2881 04:35:51.270 --> 04:35:56.670 Preserving Public Places Committee: Know on the website, I was able to put up a drawing of it. 2882 04:35:58.500 --> 04:36:04.500 Preserving Public Places Committee: I didn't have access to the website previous shows under on our committee page on preserving public places. 2883 04:36:10.200 --> 04:36:13.380 Preserving Public Places Committee: They get to the second to last thing on preserving public places. 2884 04:36:15.000 --> 04:36:15.810 Preserving Public Places Committee: attachment. 2885 04:36:16.830 --> 04:36:17.160 Preserving Public Places Committee: Dr. 2886 04:36:18.930 --> 04:36:20.100 jim murez: What am I looking at here. 2887 04:36:20.820 --> 04:36:22.740 Preserving Public Places Committee: he's going down into lashed. 2888 04:36:25.170 --> 04:36:25.860 Preserving Public Places Committee: Yet right. 2889 04:36:28.530 --> 04:36:35.190 Preserving Public Places Committee: So let me finish clarify for everyone that you don't have the only on the screens it's mostly. 2890 04:36:36.360 --> 04:36:48.780 Preserving Public Places Committee: This is not part of the monster project meeting and project, this is a public right of way that was made very clear to me by IRA Brown. 2891 04:36:48.930 --> 04:36:55.230 Preserving Public Places Committee: Who is the lead department of planning person who orchestrated the whole. 2892 04:36:56.550 --> 04:36:57.150 Daffodil Tyminski: application. 2893 04:36:57.180 --> 04:36:58.380 Preserving Public Places Committee: Of the mozzarella medium. 2894 04:36:58.980 --> 04:37:10.590 Preserving Public Places Committee: they've actually put it, they included images of this area because it's there but they are not responsible for this partial and if you. 2895 04:37:11.070 --> 04:37:18.990 Preserving Public Places Committee: want to look at the full description, this is actually the only portion of the original pronounce that Abbot kinney built. 2896 04:37:19.530 --> 04:37:36.210 Preserving Public Places Committee: I don't know if all of you know that it's now for the Jewish weren't actually built, they have a kidney but that portion of grants now ish and that bridge that is true version, it is the original trolley car bridge that will both of those elements were built by. 2897 04:37:37.500 --> 04:37:50.490 Preserving Public Places Committee: Next potential Chinese and black so there's a tremendous amount of cultural history that bridge was the trolley car bridge that hundred years ago, it was first built in it brought. 2898 04:37:52.080 --> 04:37:59.400 Preserving Public Places Committee: really brought blacks were not nobody of color was allowed to this or own land and vanish and show. 2899 04:37:59.850 --> 04:38:17.910 Preserving Public Places Committee: Arthur reissue, which was the first in a resident of vanished he before he could have a resident here every day, you came from downtown la on the trolley car and got off of that bridge, it has a lot of cultural significance to a lot of people that was in use and children it 16. 2900 04:38:19.170 --> 04:38:19.530 Preserving Public Places Committee: Which. 2901 04:38:20.760 --> 04:38:30.720 Preserving Public Places Committee: is something that the city has allowed to be intimate they are not complying with the coastal Commission and historic. 2902 04:38:31.590 --> 04:38:44.310 Preserving Public Places Committee: regulations as to how it is to be maintained and it's all in you know disrepair, which is a travesty it's a spot that needs very little effort to bring the sides of it. 2903 04:38:45.360 --> 04:39:01.350 Preserving Public Places Committee: yeah having a kiosk so that the public would shut down and tables and chairs and have a cool drink it would be the Russia the canals are all residential, this is the only site that could actually lend itself to the public, enjoying. 2904 04:39:02.520 --> 04:39:17.130 Preserving Public Places Committee: The beauty, the nature of the smells and the historic elements there's a boat launch there that again by lot is supposed to be available to both the maintenance workers, as well as the public and the city, you know in it. 2905 04:39:18.870 --> 04:39:25.560 Preserving Public Places Committee: messy way has not maintained it a shot so vicious a notion of Venice has fewer. 2906 04:39:26.610 --> 04:39:35.640 Preserving Public Places Committee: parks than any other part of words emotion, the other part of the city and it seems that it would be great if we could have reckon parks take this on. 2907 04:39:36.420 --> 04:39:46.560 Preserving Public Places Committee: Making it into a wonderful little park and the idea of bathrooms is, as it was stated, is it could be done sometime in the future. 2908 04:39:47.280 --> 04:40:02.040 Preserving Public Places Committee: it'd be great to have bathrooms there, but if it can't be then it won't there are these alkaloids under the bridge that were for a passage way they're currently closed off, but again, you know that's written in there because. 2909 04:40:02.970 --> 04:40:08.220 Preserving Public Places Committee: You know, in a normal society and we'd be able to have sessions available to people. 2910 04:40:09.420 --> 04:40:12.900 Preserving Public Places Committee: But anyway, so that the bulk of it and I. 2911 04:40:13.980 --> 04:40:16.650 Preserving Public Places Committee: i'm very interested in hearing any question. 2912 04:40:17.700 --> 04:40:32.580 Preserving Public Places Committee: It was a unanimous vote from our committee and that analysis association has supported it wholeheartedly again that area it shouldn't be in disrepair to be beautiful and. 2913 04:40:33.300 --> 04:40:37.800 Preserving Public Places Committee: It should not also be concreted over it to be natural permeable. 2914 04:40:39.690 --> 04:40:46.440 Preserving Public Places Committee: canal which doug's steps and least turn birds that are endangered awesome live in. 2915 04:40:48.090 --> 04:40:50.340 Preserving Public Places Committee: So that about it. 2916 04:40:50.790 --> 04:40:52.050 jim murez: Thank you, Robin um. 2917 04:40:52.230 --> 04:40:58.410 jim murez: Okay let's take public comment now let's somebody from the committee has something to the Board has. 2918 04:40:59.520 --> 04:41:02.670 jim murez: something they wanted to ask for clarification. 2919 04:41:03.180 --> 04:41:04.410 Of the presentation. 2920 04:41:07.320 --> 04:41:21.750 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thanks let's take public comment we've got Margaret malloy goat developer shauna Brian Lisa redman kalani w Erica more Helen fallon will close public comment with Helen felon Margaret why don't you go first. 2921 04:41:23.520 --> 04:41:30.510 Margaret Molloy: So I noticed that Robin was in Thailand, I think it's really egregious how there's you know just favoritism in the system. 2922 04:41:30.930 --> 04:41:39.870 jim murez: hold on right there Robin is the chair of a committee, making a committee presentation Margaret let's get the facts straight. 2923 04:41:41.010 --> 04:41:41.280 jim murez: yeah. 2924 04:41:41.370 --> 04:41:41.730 You may. 2925 04:41:43.410 --> 04:41:54.840 Margaret Molloy: I might have Am I thank you for restarting the time Robin is the chair of a committee that just talked about the monster in the media, and she should be kicked off the committee and the dnc. 2926 04:41:55.260 --> 04:42:05.370 Margaret Molloy: The agenda of you people is just like transparent and disgusting so whereas dnc been on Black history and brown history and all the years, but now suddenly you care. 2927 04:42:05.880 --> 04:42:15.810 Margaret Molloy: Give me a freakin break, so it says, and whereas the grand canal is the sole remaining portion of Abba kenny's original Venice canals and nationally registered historic landmark. 2928 04:42:16.110 --> 04:42:21.780 Margaret Molloy: Where was it was this bridge that enabled people of color to come from other parts of Los Angeles, to work in Venice before. 2929 04:42:22.260 --> 04:42:29.730 Margaret Molloy: The time when they were able to live her own property in the area, whereas the bridge and canals were primarily constructed by black Mexican Chinese people. 2930 04:42:30.330 --> 04:42:49.020 Margaret Molloy: Whose rich cultural history has been overlooked, so why hasn't that been the primary focus and not this bridge to interfere with the medium project, I find it disingenuous it's just the same stupid friggin record over and over honestly like own yourself on your own age. 2931 04:42:51.450 --> 04:42:51.900 jim murez: Thank you. 2932 04:42:54.090 --> 04:42:54.630 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, my. 2933 04:42:55.710 --> 04:42:57.120 Daffodil Tyminski: Go developer go ahead. 2934 04:43:04.560 --> 04:43:05.280 Goat Nigger Developer: And you want to do. 2935 04:43:05.880 --> 04:43:12.540 Goat Nigger Developer: You tried to stop and hide this project, but I brought to the table good job for you. 2936 04:43:13.860 --> 04:43:18.240 Goat Nigger Developer: And it was just see the racist bridge continue as. 2937 04:43:18.690 --> 04:43:38.880 Goat Nigger Developer: And I looked at her friends not African Americans you're being honest she just got a borax like you do in the backyard when you drink and you don't call them Asians you're calling Chinese just like you're doing you have nice drinks slap on a noun you PC people are so fully yet. 2938 04:43:40.140 --> 04:43:54.300 Goat Nigger Developer: But tonight you're being more honest aren't you you don't want bathrooms know what you want is your pretty little white enclave with high walls surrounding yourself with water as a moat. 2939 04:43:54.900 --> 04:44:03.390 Goat Nigger Developer: In fact, I think you should want to put alligators and the kennels to keep the homeless and poor from nibbling on your little feet. 2940 04:44:05.670 --> 04:44:06.480 Goat Nigger Developer: boy ready. 2941 04:44:08.220 --> 04:44:08.580 Goat Nigger Developer: gory. 2942 04:44:08.610 --> 04:44:09.180 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 2943 04:44:12.030 --> 04:44:12.630 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm. 2944 04:44:14.730 --> 04:44:15.960 Daffodil Tyminski: shauna Brian go ahead. 2945 04:44:17.670 --> 04:44:18.570 Sean Obrien: yeah hi oh. 2946 04:44:22.410 --> 04:44:26.220 Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry Sean I apologize to him, if you could fix that. 2947 04:44:29.370 --> 04:44:32.580 Daffodil Tyminski: Is it to zoom is jumping around faster than my finger can collect. 2948 04:44:33.180 --> 04:44:51.450 Sean Obrien: that's fine Thank you i'm Venice has such little history left, and this would be fantastic if we can like save one more piece of history of event is this is like Robin stated that. 2949 04:44:52.500 --> 04:45:08.910 Sean Obrien: You know it's the last bit of the red card trolley line, we do have the rails that were kept in centennial park so that's a great tie in with it, but yeah I really, really support this it's it's gonna be fabulous to. 2950 04:45:10.020 --> 04:45:14.820 Sean Obrien: preserve this history, and I hope we fight tooth and nail, because the city's you're gonna love it up. 2951 04:45:14.820 --> 04:45:16.650 Sean Obrien: and fight not to do anything, thank you. 2952 04:45:19.980 --> 04:45:20.640 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Sean. 2953 04:45:22.980 --> 04:45:24.600 Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa redmond why don't you go next. 2954 04:45:26.040 --> 04:45:27.600 Lisa Redmond: Thank you um. 2955 04:45:28.980 --> 04:45:31.320 Lisa Redmond: I am opposed to this motion. 2956 04:45:31.380 --> 04:45:42.660 Lisa Redmond: Well, I definitely am in favor of little park let's and it is a lovely lovely plan i'm against it because it just seems like a land grab to me. 2957 04:45:43.140 --> 04:45:54.990 Lisa Redmond: And this was kind of my fear about this historic preservation Committee was that we were going to fight against things that might be opportunistic again for affordable housing or were homeless people might be. 2958 04:45:56.340 --> 04:46:03.300 Lisa Redmond: I think it's interesting to know that that's not part of the plan of the reese Davidson project, but it is also. 2959 04:46:04.650 --> 04:46:05.520 Lisa Redmond: I thought it was. 2960 04:46:06.090 --> 04:46:11.100 Lisa Redmond: three statements and projects that was part of their plan was they were going to redo it and refurbish it maintain it. 2961 04:46:11.430 --> 04:46:17.760 Lisa Redmond: To say let's give it over to parks and REC is not as easy as you might think that's one of the reasons why the. 2962 04:46:18.240 --> 04:46:30.990 Lisa Redmond: Running path around 10 mar park has taken so long because it takes forever to see a piece of property from Department of Transportation over to parks and REC and it's it's not as simplistic as everything is, and for that. 2963 04:46:32.250 --> 04:46:33.750 Lisa Redmond: prefer that we go against it. 2964 04:46:34.080 --> 04:46:34.560 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 2965 04:46:36.600 --> 04:46:38.340 Daffodil Tyminski: kalani w go ahead. 2966 04:46:40.230 --> 04:46:40.530 Kalani W: Hello. 2967 04:46:41.550 --> 04:47:02.910 Kalani W: I normally in supportive park let's I was going to support this park that i'm part Asian I didn't realize that there was such a racist bent on regarding the bridge but Asians did help build California and connect the Pacific railroad so i'm. 2968 04:47:04.590 --> 04:47:10.860 Kalani W: i'm confused now because of all the statements that preceded me I didn't realize there was so much. 2969 04:47:11.850 --> 04:47:13.230 Kalani W: mal content and. 2970 04:47:13.680 --> 04:47:22.590 Kalani W: and land grabbing in this neighborhood Council, but I support park let's in general I support preservation. 2971 04:47:22.920 --> 04:47:44.610 Kalani W: In general, I do have concerns about how you're going to keep the homeless out and once again I do not think we should be held hostage by squatters who have not planned properly or who have mental health and drug abuse issues, not everyone can afford to live at the beach Thank you. 2972 04:47:45.210 --> 04:47:46.140 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you kalani. 2973 04:47:47.730 --> 04:47:49.020 Daffodil Tyminski: Erica more go ahead. 2974 04:47:52.260 --> 04:47:54.840 Erica Moore: hey there um can you hear me okay. 2975 04:47:55.350 --> 04:48:07.860 Erica Moore: Yes, okay great um okay so i'm actually wondering how this does relate I know it's not related to, but the fact that we are having a Venice heritage museum created. 2976 04:48:08.220 --> 04:48:19.560 Erica Moore: which I think is kind of near there, I mean I actually lived in the canals so i'm kind of familiar with, where this is at what they're kind of close proximity, although Mike my My point is simply. 2977 04:48:20.100 --> 04:48:28.170 Erica Moore: I think we need to preserve whatever we can about business history and heritage, and I think that the fact that this little place. 2978 04:48:28.500 --> 04:48:35.010 Erica Moore: was so significant in those first started sense that it's so important to preserve it. 2979 04:48:35.340 --> 04:48:41.370 Erica Moore: And I think that if it can be done in a way that the Community has access I think that's great because in the canal. 2980 04:48:41.670 --> 04:48:50.790 Erica Moore: The little Parker that I actually looked across super is very small it's like disappear for kids like little kids so be nice to have a place that people can come. 2981 04:48:51.180 --> 04:49:01.200 Erica Moore: and share the stories and learn about the history of them this and what is so significant about that section, a lot of people have no idea I think it'd be very helpful actually. 2982 04:49:02.250 --> 04:49:03.270 jim murez: Thank you time's up. 2983 04:49:03.660 --> 04:49:09.690 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Erica and last speaker and then we'll close public comment is Helen fallon why don't you go ahead on. 2984 04:49:11.310 --> 04:49:23.610 Helen Fallon: So I would urge you to support this, I think my cat just gotten for my speaker sorry but I, I think that it is important to preserve the history of this Community. 2985 04:49:24.030 --> 04:49:35.220 Helen Fallon: This is a significant historical artifact the last remaining red car bridge and it and the proposals that have been made by the. 2986 04:49:36.600 --> 04:49:44.880 Helen Fallon: developers for the median they've kind of taken that over and to learn that it's really not theirs to really co op that way. 2987 04:49:45.120 --> 04:49:57.780 Helen Fallon: That they're planning on making some alterations that will alter the bridge permanently and will sort of redo it will reduce the public access to it, I think that's wrong, and I think we have an obligation to protect. 2988 04:49:59.190 --> 04:50:04.620 Helen Fallon: Our historic sites can't ever get it back once they're gone or one search engine altered, thank you. 2989 04:50:06.270 --> 04:50:06.960 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Helen. 2990 04:50:08.550 --> 04:50:10.140 Daffodil Tyminski: With that will close public comment Jim. 2991 04:50:12.750 --> 04:50:13.200 jim murez: Thank you. 2992 04:50:15.630 --> 04:50:19.620 jim murez: um will now take comments from the committee. 2993 04:50:20.670 --> 04:50:23.430 jim murez: raise your hand if you want to say something Jim rob go ahead. 2994 04:50:25.320 --> 04:50:33.870 Jim Robb: Excuse me, sorry about that I think it's great idea I walk a walk over there all the time I ride my bike to go over and see you at the farmers market. 2995 04:50:34.980 --> 04:50:52.530 Jim Robb: I think that needs to be beautified i'm just worried about the security and restroom situation, but I think she did a good job and I don't know what I would like to get clarity clearance on why they're calling it a land grab what I don't understand that part of the whole feedback. 2996 04:50:54.660 --> 04:50:56.490 Jim Robb: Thank you um. 2997 04:50:57.840 --> 04:50:59.820 jim murez: anybody else I don't see any of your hands. 2998 04:51:02.790 --> 04:51:05.160 jim murez: Seeing no other hands let's take a boat. 2999 04:51:07.050 --> 04:51:10.560 jim murez: let's do a roll call because of the hour daffodil. 3000 04:51:10.890 --> 04:51:12.660 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, yes. 3001 04:51:13.770 --> 04:51:14.370 jim murez: Lisa. 3002 04:51:19.410 --> 04:51:20.550 jim murez: This is still online. 3003 04:51:20.820 --> 04:51:21.510 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes. 3004 04:51:21.750 --> 04:51:23.190 melissa diner : She is yes, yes. 3005 04:51:24.180 --> 04:51:25.050 jim murez: Thank you, Melissa. 3006 04:51:26.040 --> 04:51:27.570 Jay Handal: J yes. 3007 04:51:28.620 --> 04:51:29.220 jim murez: vicki. 3008 04:51:31.020 --> 04:51:31.560 Vicki Halliday: Yes. 3009 04:51:32.490 --> 04:51:33.000 jim murez: or no. 3010 04:51:33.390 --> 04:51:33.990 Yes. 3011 04:51:35.130 --> 04:51:36.690 Jim Robb: shim rob yes. 3012 04:51:38.070 --> 04:51:38.790 jim murez: Jason. 3013 04:51:39.810 --> 04:51:40.740 Jason Sugars: I will abstain. 3014 04:51:43.530 --> 04:51:45.690 jim murez: Le is Mike. 3015 04:51:47.580 --> 04:51:48.270 jim murez: So what else. 3016 04:51:48.630 --> 04:51:49.140 Yes. 3017 04:51:51.600 --> 04:51:52.260 jim murez: Elizabeth. 3018 04:51:52.500 --> 04:51:53.280 Yes. 3019 04:51:54.660 --> 04:51:55.260 jim murez: Robert. 3020 04:51:56.610 --> 04:51:57.360 robertthibodeau: Yes. 3021 04:51:59.280 --> 04:51:59.820 jim murez: Clark. 3022 04:52:00.180 --> 04:52:00.690 Yes. 3023 04:52:03.510 --> 04:52:04.560 jim murez: and Michael. 3024 04:52:07.710 --> 04:52:09.330 Daffodil Tyminski: mccaul I believe has left the meeting. 3025 04:52:10.140 --> 04:52:12.930 jim murez: yeah and I vote yes. 3026 04:52:14.730 --> 04:52:19.080 jim murez: Pushing carries a 11 01 and two recusals. 3027 04:52:21.690 --> 04:52:30.690 jim murez: Item number 15 snap sidewalk and traffic amenities program parking and transportation rubber you want to make the motion. 3028 04:52:33.960 --> 04:52:35.100 robertthibodeau: we're making a. 3029 04:52:35.490 --> 04:52:37.470 jim murez: know you want to just say you make the motion. 3030 04:52:37.530 --> 04:52:38.070 jim murez: I need to me. 3031 04:52:39.450 --> 04:52:40.440 robertthibodeau: i'm making the motion. 3032 04:52:40.740 --> 04:52:41.250 jim murez: Thank you. 3033 04:52:41.520 --> 04:52:42.660 Vicki Halliday: i'll second that Jim. 3034 04:52:42.990 --> 04:52:45.150 jim murez: Thank you vicki go ahead, Robert explain. 3035 04:52:48.480 --> 04:52:51.870 robertthibodeau: So the motion itself is has to do with. 3036 04:52:54.420 --> 04:53:10.590 robertthibodeau: The bus bench and closures, the city is proposing to put digital advertising on the bunch bus bench enclosure bus bench enclosures where you currently have those posters that everybody keeps breaking the glass on. 3037 04:53:11.850 --> 04:53:15.930 robertthibodeau: Now they're going to have digital billboards there and we. 3038 04:53:17.010 --> 04:53:17.970 robertthibodeau: would like to. 3039 04:53:19.320 --> 04:53:33.990 robertthibodeau: Put a statement in or that we're not in favor of that we think it's going to cause a light pollution and just generally be distracting and an attractive so that's that's why we did this. 3040 04:53:34.320 --> 04:53:42.660 jim murez: rubber let me ask you a quick question when you say put a statement in Are you suggesting that there's a Council file on this, that you want to make a Community impact statement to. 3041 04:53:47.610 --> 04:53:50.700 robertthibodeau: I don't know if there is a Council file now i'm trying to remember that. 3042 04:53:52.260 --> 04:53:55.260 jim murez: Okay, well, we can put the Community impact statement and later, but. 3043 04:53:56.220 --> 04:54:03.030 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sorry it staff and Melissa may remember this better but wasn't there Council file open on this, a while ago and it came back. 3044 04:54:07.170 --> 04:54:15.510 melissa diner : yeah we already did emotion on this exact topic and I believe file to counsel file and if not, we can redo it. 3045 04:54:17.640 --> 04:54:23.520 robertthibodeau: Yes, somebody put this in front of me in the last 30 days and I thought we had. 3046 04:54:24.690 --> 04:54:41.220 robertthibodeau: made a statement based on Rack, there was a rack motion that had to do with this and we made statements, supporting the Rack motion this came back in front of me again through I believe stakeholder. 3047 04:54:43.800 --> 04:54:49.110 robertthibodeau: And the sui this seem to be more focused on the digital billboards, then the. 3048 04:54:50.610 --> 04:54:51.270 robertthibodeau: Then the. 3049 04:54:53.430 --> 04:54:56.190 robertthibodeau: Whatever was in Iraq motion before so we heard it again. 3050 04:54:57.060 --> 04:55:02.790 robertthibodeau: Okay, if you don't want to hear you don't have to hear it, but this this did come in front of us, due to a stakeholder. 3051 04:55:04.650 --> 04:55:06.570 Jim Robb: It gets really dug deeper we might hold on. 3052 04:55:06.990 --> 04:55:11.280 jim murez: We have a motion, we have a second to do we have any public comment. 3053 04:55:12.120 --> 04:55:13.470 Daffodil Tyminski: We do have public comment. 3054 04:55:17.160 --> 04:55:19.980 Daffodil Tyminski: um let's start with goat developer. 3055 04:55:21.390 --> 04:55:21.960 Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead. 3056 04:55:23.970 --> 04:55:26.190 Goat Nigger Developer: Yes, we eat this idea here it. 3057 04:55:27.720 --> 04:55:32.550 Goat Nigger Developer: sort of the stakeholder or the brothers what they have had a power purports. 3058 04:55:34.110 --> 04:55:34.710 Goat Nigger Developer: Maybe. 3059 04:55:38.820 --> 04:55:43.590 Daffodil Tyminski: you're off topic sorry i'm Helen fallon go ahead. 3060 04:55:45.990 --> 04:56:02.520 Helen Fallon: um yeah there happens to be a Council, while I can give you the number it's cf 20 dash 1536 and even though we did vote on something regarding medicine we're opposed to these digital billboards. 3061 04:56:03.690 --> 04:56:11.700 Helen Fallon: There is no dnc CIS in that file because I just happened to look at it today because I received some information about this. 3062 04:56:12.720 --> 04:56:22.500 Helen Fallon: issue and it's basically the cell the city selling off his spaces and we should all be aware that that apparently these. 3063 04:56:23.160 --> 04:56:34.440 Helen Fallon: This furniture with these digital billboards will go in areas with high bus traffic, but those of us who don't have that kind of ridership are then going to get large billboards. 3064 04:56:34.860 --> 04:56:43.350 Helen Fallon: it's like trade off with the lobbying groups, so this is a really bad idea, so let's get a CIS in always be on the record thanks. 3065 04:56:43.680 --> 04:56:46.290 robertthibodeau: Could you repeat that number was it to earn. 3066 04:56:46.590 --> 04:56:51.510 robertthibodeau: 536201536 got it Thank you Hello and. 3067 04:56:51.570 --> 04:56:54.930 jim murez: Welcome sorry I didn't get it, and I want to make sure. 3068 04:56:54.930 --> 04:56:55.320 Helen Fallon: That i'm. 3069 04:56:55.680 --> 04:57:02.430 Helen Fallon: You know i'm 5361536. 3070 04:57:06.390 --> 04:57:06.690 jim murez: Okay. 3071 04:57:11.070 --> 04:57:11.760 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Helen. 3072 04:57:14.370 --> 04:57:17.040 Daffodil Tyminski: Next we'll go to Lisa redmen don't have Lisa. 3073 04:57:18.660 --> 04:57:28.950 Lisa Redmond: yeah, thank you for pulling this because it did need a lot more clarification and Helen did earlier today send me a bunch of information so she said what. 3074 04:57:30.120 --> 04:57:37.080 Lisa Redmond: I was going to say but it's it's really, we need to expand the motion it's poorly written. 3075 04:57:37.950 --> 04:57:44.250 Lisa Redmond: And that's probably because Robert didn't get enough information, but I am again or for this i'm against the digital billboards. 3076 04:57:44.610 --> 04:57:56.220 Lisa Redmond: And in our area because we won't have the bus traffic will have all those big giant digital billboards which we definitely don't want people gawking at while they're crawling down Lincoln at rush hour traffic. 3077 04:57:56.970 --> 04:58:08.880 Lisa Redmond: And then, if you really want to make this a cms motion, please amend the motion so that you get the CIS in there because right now, you don't have it as that Thank you. 3078 04:58:09.300 --> 04:58:10.110 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Lisa. 3079 04:58:12.240 --> 04:58:13.650 Daffodil Tyminski: kalani w go ahead. 3080 04:58:14.700 --> 04:58:15.990 Kalani W: Yes, the road diet, I. 3081 04:58:17.010 --> 04:58:30.900 Kalani W: spoke of earlier on, Venice boulevard that's going to include a dedicated bustling show you're going to have these these LED lights or down Venice boulevard and, yes, the big billboards in Venice, so I. 3082 04:58:31.770 --> 04:58:32.910 Kalani W: oppose this. 3083 04:58:33.810 --> 04:58:36.180 Kalani W: oppose having these LED lights. 3084 04:58:37.980 --> 04:58:47.340 Kalani W: And billboards strewn throughout the city, I oppose it, when it was initially brought up and I continue to oppose it, especially now that. 3085 04:58:48.360 --> 04:58:55.920 Kalani W: The road diet will include the dedicated bus lanes with these billboards at most bus stops Thank you. 3086 04:58:57.750 --> 04:59:03.150 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Connie and I last speaker will be Sean o'brien Sean go ahead. 3087 04:59:03.960 --> 04:59:12.360 Sean Obrien: yeah I think oh yeah support the motion, I think the city really like the movie Blade Runner that's how they like envision la. 3088 04:59:13.290 --> 04:59:27.150 Sean Obrien: They want all these big giant digital billboards it's madness, I do agree, if you guys want to amend the emotion tonight we'll stick it out with you but yeah get it through thanks for your neck oh. 3089 04:59:29.070 --> 04:59:29.640 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Sean. 3090 04:59:30.930 --> 04:59:37.170 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, with that will close public comment i'm Jim let's take it to board comment. 3091 04:59:37.320 --> 04:59:38.220 jim murez: I want. 3092 04:59:39.840 --> 04:59:42.150 jim murez: To have somebody. 3093 04:59:42.510 --> 04:59:45.060 jim murez: amend the original motion, so we. 3094 04:59:45.060 --> 04:59:58.170 jim murez: can get the wording in that it has a Council file and that instead of saying, whereas I think we wanted to start off saying something to the effect of the board of officers. 3095 05:00:00.450 --> 05:00:05.190 Daffodil Tyminski: I would say the dnc Board of officer moves to oppose. 3096 05:00:06.780 --> 05:00:07.980 Daffodil Tyminski: blah blah blah. 3097 05:00:12.660 --> 05:00:18.960 Daffodil Tyminski: I mean i'm open to language here, but in files a you know comedian pack statement consistent with that motion or something like that. 3098 05:00:29.430 --> 05:00:37.980 jim murez: Was that number 21 536. 3099 05:00:52.650 --> 05:00:54.210 Alley Bean: My cat here is someone's cat. 3100 05:00:54.570 --> 05:00:56.760 Daffodil Tyminski: You know what it's it's definitely it's the cat. 3101 05:00:57.030 --> 05:00:59.010 Daffodil Tyminski: it's our neighborhood cat who happens yes. 3102 05:00:59.370 --> 05:01:01.290 Alley Bean: window going crazy. 3103 05:01:01.350 --> 05:01:03.630 Daffodil Tyminski: All right, it's Parker okay. 3104 05:01:10.560 --> 05:01:13.380 robertthibodeau: You just said that after billboards and I think you're good. 3105 05:01:24.270 --> 05:01:32.430 Alley Bean: You know, it would be weird to add the word dangerously distracting Robert I think they're so dangerous these these billboards. 3106 05:01:34.140 --> 05:01:34.740 jim murez: yeah well. 3107 05:01:34.800 --> 05:01:36.150 robertthibodeau: Not not opposed to it. 3108 05:01:36.420 --> 05:01:41.130 jim murez: what's dangerous to one person may not be dangerous to somebody else but okay dangerously attract. 3109 05:01:41.310 --> 05:01:45.870 Alley Bean: The trapping mm hmm cuz I mean, I think it should actually be criminal. 3110 05:01:47.790 --> 05:01:49.590 Alley Bean: i've seen an accident, because of one. 3111 05:01:52.890 --> 05:01:56.400 jim murez: that's not right dangerous have you spoke dangerously. 3112 05:01:57.480 --> 05:02:00.300 Alley Bean: da n G R O U s l y. 3113 05:02:05.670 --> 05:02:07.560 Jim Robb: be distracted driving alley. 3114 05:02:08.070 --> 05:02:11.790 robertthibodeau: And then, that we need to fix between pollution and motion to get. 3115 05:02:11.790 --> 05:02:12.690 robertthibodeau: That to read right. 3116 05:02:18.210 --> 05:02:22.200 robertthibodeau: Maybe, maybe, maybe we get rid of the motion part. 3117 05:02:25.980 --> 05:02:27.720 jim murez: So what part of we would get rid of. 3118 05:02:31.020 --> 05:02:40.110 robertthibodeau: Get rid of between motion and b&c because we've already said b&c now to get rid of, and then you you'd say keep a post. 3119 05:02:40.350 --> 05:02:41.760 jim murez: just keep that at this. 3120 05:02:41.760 --> 05:02:43.500 robertthibodeau: Point and replace it with the word and. 3121 05:02:43.560 --> 05:02:44.220 jim murez: And yeah. 3122 05:02:44.250 --> 05:02:45.330 robertthibodeau: pollution and. 3123 05:02:47.280 --> 05:02:50.010 robertthibodeau: and oppose, you need to keep the pose in there. 3124 05:02:52.410 --> 05:02:54.960 robertthibodeau: yeah I think that reads OK. 3125 05:02:57.630 --> 05:03:00.330 jim murez: OK so Robert you want to be the maker of that. 3126 05:03:01.920 --> 05:03:05.400 robertthibodeau: yeah, however, however, however, this is supposed to work on. 3127 05:03:07.260 --> 05:03:08.310 robertthibodeau: A man was notion. 3128 05:03:09.780 --> 05:03:10.500 jim murez: Who seconded. 3129 05:03:10.830 --> 05:03:12.450 jim murez: Ali Thank you ellie. 3130 05:03:16.230 --> 05:03:18.870 jim murez: um Okay, so we cleaned up the wording. 3131 05:03:20.100 --> 05:03:22.410 jim murez: Anybody have any public depth, do you have your hand up. 3132 05:03:29.730 --> 05:03:31.410 jim murez: can't hear you you're muted sorry. 3133 05:03:32.580 --> 05:03:39.060 Daffodil Tyminski: And not only are these distracting create light pollution, but they're going to have actually particularly impact in a place like Venice where. 3134 05:03:39.540 --> 05:03:46.680 Daffodil Tyminski: houses are closer together streets are smaller it's not like bus stops on white boulevards we have some bus stops to go through residential neighborhoods. 3135 05:03:47.340 --> 05:04:00.300 Daffodil Tyminski: But even that the way this works is once if the city were to pursue this they're going to make a contract with an outside company and those contracts aren't like renewable every two years, or something they're going to be long term. 3136 05:04:01.020 --> 05:04:08.580 Daffodil Tyminski: And I feel like we've been fighting this issue in some form of Venice since like the MID 2000s mid 2000s so. 3137 05:04:09.810 --> 05:04:20.160 Daffodil Tyminski: I don't know that will have an impact, but I would certainly urge everyone to vote now on this vote yes on the motion to oppose the digital billboards. 3138 05:04:20.730 --> 05:04:21.120 jim murez: Thank you. 3139 05:04:22.170 --> 05:04:23.700 jim murez: I believe last contract was. 3140 05:04:23.700 --> 05:04:25.050 jim murez: 15 or 20 years. 3141 05:04:25.260 --> 05:04:29.490 jim murez: And they did not live up to their agreements, maintaining the areas around them. 3142 05:04:33.090 --> 05:04:34.200 jim murez: Robert you have your hand up. 3143 05:04:34.980 --> 05:04:39.540 robertthibodeau: yeah i'd also like to point out that the Venice Pacific plan. 3144 05:04:40.680 --> 05:04:41.820 robertthibodeau: Specifically. 3145 05:04:43.770 --> 05:05:03.090 robertthibodeau: prohibits off site advertising so you're only supposed to have signage if it's for the business on the property and that's why we don't have billboards west of blinken unless they're grandfathered in which some are, and so this would to me, would be a violation of the. 3146 05:05:04.710 --> 05:05:08.460 robertthibodeau: The specific plan so pointing that out. 3147 05:05:09.510 --> 05:05:09.840 robertthibodeau: yeah. 3148 05:05:09.990 --> 05:05:13.080 jim murez: I think it's actually in the land use plan, but you're correct about Jordan. 3149 05:05:14.430 --> 05:05:14.850 jim murez: um. 3150 05:05:16.230 --> 05:05:18.030 jim murez: anybody else have any public comments. 3151 05:05:20.850 --> 05:05:22.470 Jim Robb: see your your head Robert. 3152 05:05:23.400 --> 05:05:26.970 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah there's we stick about there's, no, no one else i'm. 3153 05:05:27.210 --> 05:05:27.960 being done. 3154 05:05:29.280 --> 05:05:31.380 jim murez: Do we have any no votes. 3155 05:05:32.700 --> 05:05:35.160 jim murez: We have any abstentions. 3156 05:05:36.690 --> 05:05:39.900 jim murez: let's assume well you know what though I don't know who's still here. 3157 05:05:41.520 --> 05:05:42.960 jim murez: At the bill Hart, how do you vote. 3158 05:05:45.300 --> 05:05:46.200 Daffodil Tyminski: I vote. 3159 05:05:48.720 --> 05:05:50.400 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm just trying to make sure I do this correctly. 3160 05:05:51.990 --> 05:05:52.740 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes. 3161 05:05:54.600 --> 05:05:55.140 jim murez: what's up. 3162 05:05:56.100 --> 05:05:57.720 jim murez: Yes, Jay. 3163 05:06:01.380 --> 05:06:01.770 jim murez: Jay. 3164 05:06:02.370 --> 05:06:04.560 jim murez: Yes, thank you vicki. 3165 05:06:04.950 --> 05:06:05.550 Vicki Halliday: Oh yes. 3166 05:06:06.360 --> 05:06:07.890 Vicki Halliday: Bruno yes. 3167 05:06:12.120 --> 05:06:12.690 jim murez: Jason. 3168 05:06:13.110 --> 05:06:14.730 jim murez: Yes, le. 3169 05:06:15.060 --> 05:06:16.830 jim murez: Yes, like. 3170 05:06:18.570 --> 05:06:19.170 jim murez: soda. 3171 05:06:19.620 --> 05:06:20.160 Yes. 3172 05:06:29.010 --> 05:06:29.490 jim murez: Elizabeth. 3173 05:06:33.270 --> 05:06:33.930 jim murez: Elizabeth. 3174 05:06:34.590 --> 05:06:35.040 jim murez: Yes. 3175 05:06:35.820 --> 05:06:36.300 Thank you. 3176 05:06:37.680 --> 05:06:38.280 jim murez: Robert. 3177 05:06:38.700 --> 05:06:40.350 jim murez: Yes, Clark. 3178 05:06:40.740 --> 05:06:41.250 Yes. 3179 05:06:42.750 --> 05:06:43.620 jim murez: and 3180 05:06:44.700 --> 05:06:45.240 jim murez: kill. 3181 05:06:45.840 --> 05:06:46.620 jim murez: he's not here. 3182 05:06:49.770 --> 05:06:50.160 jim murez: today. 3183 05:06:52.020 --> 05:06:52.860 jim murez: He may be gone. 3184 05:06:53.730 --> 05:06:55.410 Daffodil Tyminski: And I think cj has gone. 3185 05:06:57.870 --> 05:07:02.370 jim murez: Okay, and i'm voting yes, so the motion carries 12 00. 3186 05:07:03.840 --> 05:07:08.520 jim murez: No trespassing signs lot seven one and 731. 3187 05:07:10.050 --> 05:07:14.490 Ivan: Robert this one, what was the count on that last vote and I didn't hear it. 3188 05:07:17.670 --> 05:07:18.630 jim murez: On this one. 3189 05:07:18.870 --> 05:07:19.920 Ivan: Was county. 3190 05:07:21.930 --> 05:07:23.310 Daffodil Tyminski: 13 00. 3191 05:07:24.120 --> 05:07:26.400 Ivan: Okay, just want to make sure you saw quorum. 3192 05:07:26.970 --> 05:07:27.420 Ivan: yeah right. 3193 05:07:30.270 --> 05:07:30.660 Ivan: Okay. 3194 05:07:31.440 --> 05:07:34.650 jim murez: um no trespassing signs Robert you want to make the. 3195 05:07:34.650 --> 05:07:35.220 motion. 3196 05:07:36.990 --> 05:07:39.360 robertthibodeau: motion to send a request. 3197 05:07:39.840 --> 05:07:41.520 robertthibodeau: From the dnc to. 3198 05:07:41.760 --> 05:07:43.410 jim murez: Absolutely let's get a second first. 3199 05:07:44.040 --> 05:07:45.570 robertthibodeau: Oh, make the motion. 3200 05:07:46.230 --> 05:07:48.270 Vicki Halliday: Okay, oh second it Jim. 3201 05:07:48.720 --> 05:07:49.410 jim murez: Thank you vicki. 3202 05:07:51.210 --> 05:07:54.240 jim murez: Okay, Robert tell us what you got going on here. 3203 05:07:54.600 --> 05:07:58.530 robertthibodeau: This was again brought by a stakeholder and. 3204 05:08:00.420 --> 05:08:07.440 robertthibodeau: And as Sean he's probably here so Sean brought this up, if you want him to explain, I can explain it probably quicker. 3205 05:08:07.680 --> 05:08:10.110 jim murez: boy had just finished it up, but this is our last time. 3206 05:08:10.140 --> 05:08:12.270 robertthibodeau: Right now, the parking lot. 3207 05:08:13.560 --> 05:08:19.440 robertthibodeau: The farmers market parking lot and then the one towards the beach the comedian's post beyond both have. 3208 05:08:20.850 --> 05:08:28.950 robertthibodeau: signage because they're not supposed to be open at night and I guess it got problems with people congregating at night at these places. 3209 05:08:29.850 --> 05:08:38.520 robertthibodeau: The issue is that the signage face in towards the parking lots of people may be inadvertently thinking that these parking lots are sort of open for public use at night. 3210 05:08:39.300 --> 05:08:58.770 robertthibodeau: And the idea is to on the polls, where the signs are facing in is to add an additional sign, based on the street facing out so that people don't enter these thinking that they're open and congregate you know after after hours and seemed pretty straightforward to me. 3211 05:09:00.030 --> 05:09:00.540 jim murez: Thank you. 3212 05:09:01.680 --> 05:09:05.820 jim murez: Anybody have any question about clarification on this Jim you had your hand up you. 3213 05:09:06.390 --> 05:09:09.120 robertthibodeau: Probably paraphrasing you too, so you know you can. 3214 05:09:09.630 --> 05:09:10.380 robertthibodeau: Work Robert. 3215 05:09:11.310 --> 05:09:18.960 Jim Robb: I saw I saw them putting signs in the parking lots all the way down facing inside the parking lot, are you saying that you put them. 3216 05:09:19.710 --> 05:09:21.240 Jim Robb: On the outside of the parking lot because. 3217 05:09:21.780 --> 05:09:22.050 robertthibodeau: they're. 3218 05:09:22.470 --> 05:09:31.440 robertthibodeau: on the inside right additional science that face out because right now all of a sudden, not all but most of the signage faces in and and the idea is to have this. 3219 05:09:32.070 --> 05:09:41.370 robertthibodeau: In addition to the science facing in is to have signs that face out towards the sidewalk so you can't read the science from the sidewalks you go in the parking lot and. 3220 05:09:41.970 --> 05:09:42.420 Jim Robb: then start. 3221 05:09:42.930 --> 05:09:44.850 robertthibodeau: carrying a 2am and that. 3222 05:09:45.090 --> 05:09:48.000 Jim Robb: seems to be a pricey I see jogging by there so. 3223 05:09:50.940 --> 05:09:56.490 jim murez: Okay, thanks, Jim lower your hand, please let's take public comment, if there is any. 3224 05:09:56.790 --> 05:10:02.670 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah we do we've got 123456 people. 3225 05:10:04.860 --> 05:10:16.050 Daffodil Tyminski: Go Eric and more Sean and Brian Margaret boy Lisa redmond Helen fallon after that we'll close public comment, but why don't we start with shawna Brian since you brought the motion to our attention. 3226 05:10:21.780 --> 05:10:25.200 Daffodil Tyminski: Up Sean Sam trying to get you to talk there there Okay, you should be okay. 3227 05:10:26.160 --> 05:10:36.630 Sean Obrien: Okay, great Thank you oh yeah it's so it doesn't change any existing laws or anything there's the jerk that that surrounds the parking lots. 3228 05:10:36.900 --> 05:10:37.980 Sean Obrien: And then the sidewalk. 3229 05:10:38.310 --> 05:10:52.680 Sean Obrien: So the sidewalk is a public property, the dirt and the parking lots is considered private property, and there is a confusion of as to where you can loiter where you can. 3230 05:10:53.550 --> 05:11:08.700 Sean Obrien: mess around and you're not able to do that on private property all see signs do is take away the confusion of what's enforceable or not um it's a safety issue and it's already been vetted. 3231 05:11:09.360 --> 05:11:21.090 Sean Obrien: for about eight months that that deem that that dirt area around the parking lots is considered private property, and so I vote y'all I urge you all to vote and support this motion, thank you. 3232 05:11:23.280 --> 05:11:23.910 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Sean. 3233 05:11:27.030 --> 05:11:29.160 Daffodil Tyminski: developer why don't you go next. 3234 05:11:29.340 --> 05:11:32.280 jim murez: But before one, second, let me just clarify. 3235 05:11:34.200 --> 05:11:35.370 jim murez: hold on one, second, please. 3236 05:11:36.150 --> 05:11:46.410 jim murez: The property is public property, but it's not public right of way and that's the distinction between the two. 3237 05:11:47.130 --> 05:11:54.780 jim murez: public property is does not necessarily fall under the same jurisdiction as public right of way people are allowed to. 3238 05:11:55.470 --> 05:12:09.270 jim murez: occupy the public right away at this time because we don't have a place for them to occupy elsewhere but they're not allowed to occupy public property that is not held within the public right. 3239 05:12:10.590 --> 05:12:11.010 jim murez: Okay. 3240 05:12:12.240 --> 05:12:15.210 jim murez: it's a very fine line distinction okay go ahead with public calm. 3241 05:12:16.350 --> 05:12:18.630 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, go ahead, go. 3242 05:12:19.890 --> 05:12:23.850 Goat Nigger Developer: Yes, for the record that's five humans and one animal. 3243 05:12:24.900 --> 05:12:39.600 Goat Nigger Developer: Now, as you put the signs up you're facing them to the street, to look those that are unworthy know that they need to stay out of business stay at farmer's markets and stay out of your ally. 3244 05:12:40.830 --> 05:12:44.280 Goat Nigger Developer: And that's why I also brought this to your attention. 3245 05:12:46.320 --> 05:12:57.930 Goat Nigger Developer: But those you know, there will be legal challenges and complaints, as people are thinking, if you put them outside of the street you're making them feel unwelcome. 3246 05:12:58.500 --> 05:13:09.660 Goat Nigger Developer: And that's not the Venetian way I see the hell with that I think it's time to draw a line in the dirt and I think we're starting it today, starting up. 3247 05:13:11.790 --> 05:13:14.760 Goat Nigger Developer: what's put these signs up on every street. 3248 05:13:16.920 --> 05:13:17.580 Goat Nigger Developer: So no. 3249 05:13:19.080 --> 05:13:21.690 Goat Nigger Developer: Worse than 2 million Fuck. 3250 05:13:25.380 --> 05:13:25.980 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 3251 05:13:27.330 --> 05:13:28.470 Daffodil Tyminski: Erica more go ahead. 3252 05:13:31.500 --> 05:13:41.160 Erica Moore: hi um I just want to say that I could give it truly is a passage way that the public is not allowed to avoid her on, I think that to have proper signage makes a lot of sense. 3253 05:13:41.730 --> 05:13:49.020 Erica Moore: I think that if there is confusion of where you're allowed to you know hang out and where you're not, I think it should be clear. 3254 05:13:49.620 --> 05:14:01.140 Erica Moore: If it is something that is I didn't have time to really look at this closely okay so i'm just letting you know that, but just common sense wise if there is an area that's being occupied by people that should not be because. 3255 05:14:01.740 --> 05:14:12.060 Erica Moore: They just really don't have a legal right to be there, that I think that it should be should be denoted so that it's clear and there should also be noted, where it is OK, for the hangout too thanks. 3256 05:14:12.780 --> 05:14:13.320 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you. 3257 05:14:14.400 --> 05:14:15.900 Daffodil Tyminski: Margaret malloy go ahead. 3258 05:14:18.360 --> 05:14:23.370 Margaret Molloy: I have yet to see a sign that says welcome, especially if you're on house. 3259 05:14:23.910 --> 05:14:25.050 Margaret Molloy: What a novel idea. 3260 05:14:26.970 --> 05:14:34.320 Margaret Molloy: It just doesn't exist in the spectrum of imagination of most people because that's not what's offensive to people. 3261 05:14:35.490 --> 05:14:40.140 Margaret Molloy: And it's very offensive and I don't believe that their public parking lot. 3262 05:14:40.890 --> 05:14:47.670 Margaret Molloy: it's not a public space it's government own property, so this idea that your language includes private property and. 3263 05:14:49.890 --> 05:14:50.760 Margaret Molloy: Ad. 3264 05:14:52.620 --> 05:14:53.520 Margaret Molloy: I think you should. 3265 05:14:54.600 --> 05:15:01.800 Margaret Molloy: look into the legal aspect of that claim and if it's not a legal claim, you should have been from the motion, thank you. 3266 05:15:03.570 --> 05:15:06.270 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, my right Lisa redmond go ahead. 3267 05:15:08.580 --> 05:15:22.260 Lisa Redmond: yeah i'm not gonna argue the merits of homelessness on this one up I pulled this off consent, because it is written incorrectly needs to go back to wherever it needs to come from because there's no address on it. 3268 05:15:22.980 --> 05:15:34.350 Lisa Redmond: And you just say parking lots seven one in 731 so the public had no idea what we're talking about I didn't know, are you talking about the lot at main and rose maybe the lot. 3269 05:15:34.620 --> 05:15:41.910 Lisa Redmond: Public lot behind the Pacific resident theater on off or some being way, I had no idea which do T lot you were talking about. 3270 05:15:42.390 --> 05:16:01.920 Lisa Redmond: So you can amend the motion and put in an address but that's still incorrect, because the public did not get proper notification about this motion to know and decide and correctly, evaluate and public comment if they also pulled it off consent calendar, so please fix this. 3271 05:16:02.370 --> 05:16:05.790 Lisa Redmond: And do what's right, proper Thank you. 3272 05:16:07.470 --> 05:16:12.960 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, and last but not least, we've got Helen fallon go ahead. 3273 05:16:14.280 --> 05:16:16.650 Helen Fallon: I agree with laces remarks and. 3274 05:16:18.090 --> 05:16:23.610 Helen Fallon: Whoever we first of those lots by their number are I had no idea which ones, you were talking about. 3275 05:16:24.060 --> 05:16:34.260 Helen Fallon: And I thought I kind of understood what the point was, but then after Jim explain this thing about right away and stuff now i'm totally confused I don't know where the right away stops, is it start in the. 3276 05:16:35.340 --> 05:16:44.940 Helen Fallon: parking lot by the fence and then the dirt is the right away, I don't get it, and if it needs to be signage it sounds like the signage needs to be related to please do not be. 3277 05:16:45.270 --> 05:16:49.380 Helen Fallon: Standing here at two o'clock in the morning and talking loudly because it's probably bothering. 3278 05:16:50.160 --> 05:17:00.240 Helen Fallon: People in the surrounding residences and I don't know that the no trespassing thing is going to make any kind of difference it's those kinds of signs, you need about you know. 3279 05:17:01.050 --> 05:17:12.180 Helen Fallon: What i've been businesses put up you know be quiet at 10 o'clock so I just the extra go back to the committee flush it out so everybody knows what you're voting for what we're actually doing. 3280 05:17:15.030 --> 05:17:18.330 Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, and with that we will close public comment. 3281 05:17:21.960 --> 05:17:25.410 jim murez: Okay does anybody on the committee have. 3282 05:17:26.460 --> 05:17:29.070 jim murez: Any questions or statements. 3283 05:17:33.120 --> 05:17:36.360 jim murez: Seeing none let's take a vote. 3284 05:17:37.680 --> 05:17:39.000 jim murez: daffodil, how do you vote. 3285 05:17:40.020 --> 05:17:40.530 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes. 3286 05:17:42.330 --> 05:17:42.960 jim murez: alyssa. 3287 05:17:48.720 --> 05:17:49.410 melissa diner : Yes. 3288 05:17:50.430 --> 05:17:51.060 jim murez: Shay. 3289 05:17:51.270 --> 05:17:53.070 Soledad Ursua: Yes, vicki. 3290 05:17:53.460 --> 05:17:55.170 jim murez: Yes, Bruno. 3291 05:17:55.320 --> 05:17:57.420 Bruno Hernandez: Yes, Kim rob. 3292 05:17:58.110 --> 05:17:58.290 As. 3293 05:17:59.610 --> 05:18:00.330 jim murez: Jason. 3294 05:18:03.840 --> 05:18:05.490 Jason Sugars: Yes, thank you. 3295 05:18:05.610 --> 05:18:08.040 Alley Bean: Kelly i'm going to abstain. 3296 05:18:09.990 --> 05:18:12.420 jim murez: mike's not here so without. 3297 05:18:12.810 --> 05:18:13.440 Yes. 3298 05:18:14.790 --> 05:18:15.600 jim murez: cj. 3299 05:18:19.380 --> 05:18:20.190 jim murez: Elizabeth. 3300 05:18:20.460 --> 05:18:22.590 jim murez: Yes, Robert. 3301 05:18:24.450 --> 05:18:26.460 robertthibodeau: Yes, Clark. 3302 05:18:26.850 --> 05:18:27.240 Is. 3303 05:18:28.260 --> 05:18:31.830 jim murez: mchale think he's calling already i'm gonna vote yes. 3304 05:18:34.800 --> 05:18:37.110 jim murez: carries 12 01. 3305 05:18:38.460 --> 05:18:40.590 jim murez: And that was the last item right Robert. 3306 05:18:42.690 --> 05:18:42.870 jim murez: yeah. 3307 05:18:43.200 --> 05:18:46.350 robertthibodeau: yeah I think we went through the ones that go pulled from consent yeah. 3308 05:18:46.440 --> 05:18:56.070 jim murez: that's all of them Okay, now the last item is actually does anybody on the committee, want to talk about something that's not on the agenda. 3309 05:19:00.270 --> 05:19:01.380 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm. 3310 05:19:03.270 --> 05:19:04.110 Daffodil Tyminski: You have. 3311 05:19:05.610 --> 05:19:06.180 Daffodil Tyminski: One hand. 3312 05:19:08.730 --> 05:19:09.360 robertthibodeau: me again. 3313 05:19:10.440 --> 05:19:14.430 Daffodil Tyminski: Anyone in the public, this is just for board members to comment, this is not public comment. 3314 05:19:14.790 --> 05:19:16.410 jim murez: Just for Members that's correct. 3315 05:19:18.750 --> 05:19:23.160 robertthibodeau: just want to take a split SEC before everybody goes, and I appreciate your patience. 3316 05:19:24.600 --> 05:19:34.620 robertthibodeau: To bring up something that was brought up to me this last week and not sure what to do about it, I don't know if you guys remember when we were had those. 3317 05:19:36.390 --> 05:19:42.900 robertthibodeau: The whole thing about the redrawing the district lines happened about a year ago. 3318 05:19:43.170 --> 05:19:44.430 robertthibodeau: yeah and. 3319 05:19:45.000 --> 05:19:48.990 Daffodil Tyminski: county supervisor district lines or the CD. 3320 05:19:49.830 --> 05:19:51.030 jim murez: I think it's the senior. 3321 05:19:51.090 --> 05:19:52.650 robertthibodeau: CD 11 lines. 3322 05:19:52.710 --> 05:19:54.960 jim murez: And also, and also that this also the account. 3323 05:19:54.960 --> 05:19:57.600 robertthibodeau: yeah I think it affected but and. 3324 05:19:58.920 --> 05:20:03.000 robertthibodeau: The Venice is split which I never really realized and and. 3325 05:20:04.290 --> 05:20:08.910 robertthibodeau: south of Washington is actually in a different CD, if I understand correctly. 3326 05:20:09.000 --> 05:20:12.300 jim murez: it's not a different CD it's in a different supervisory district. 3327 05:20:12.420 --> 05:20:24.660 robertthibodeau: Okay gotcha that just seemed bizarre to me and that strand strand which historically has been part of Venice, I mean look at all the old photos and the oil derricks and. 3328 05:20:25.530 --> 05:20:32.940 robertthibodeau: You know it's it's part of Venice you've known as a different zip code that's no big deal that's sort of been taken to a different. 3329 05:20:34.290 --> 05:20:47.460 robertthibodeau: A different district, and that that that seems very, very strange to me but anyways That was my point I don't really have something to do about it, but maybe we can look at that sometime. 3330 05:20:47.760 --> 05:20:54.360 jim murez: yeah I don't think there's anything we can do at this point that the period to comment on that has come and gone. 3331 05:20:54.750 --> 05:20:57.660 robertthibodeau: Right okay thanks guys okay. 3332 05:20:59.040 --> 05:21:00.150 jim murez: The next time will be. 3333 05:21:00.900 --> 05:21:01.800 jim murez: In 2013. 3334 05:21:05.820 --> 05:21:07.140 jim murez: anybody else have anything. 3335 05:21:08.100 --> 05:21:09.420 Daffodil Tyminski: to rob is his hand raise. 3336 05:21:09.780 --> 05:21:10.560 jim murez: Your hand up Jim. 3337 05:21:11.640 --> 05:21:13.410 Jim Robb: Okay well My last comment is. 3338 05:21:14.490 --> 05:21:22.890 Jim Robb: As part of the ocean front walk we've been dealing with the lifeguard headquarters and people wanting to take the top down, and all that. 3339 05:21:24.810 --> 05:21:31.800 Jim Robb: I had a an idea was walking on the beach, and I, I was wondering why the city couldn't pay for that to turn it into. 3340 05:21:32.280 --> 05:21:39.360 Jim Robb: 25 or 30 bathrooms and places for people to do the shower coming off the beach instead of a little. 3341 05:21:40.200 --> 05:21:45.930 Jim Robb: To four seater bathroom with the showers out that the water runs into the parking lot. 3342 05:21:46.530 --> 05:21:59.880 Jim Robb: So I want to put that out there that instead of tearing that down that it should be repurposed for for the Community and address the the hundred more bathrooms that are sorely needed for the for the city. 3343 05:22:00.480 --> 05:22:01.080 Jim Robb: So he. 3344 05:22:01.620 --> 05:22:04.440 Alley Bean: said, Jim to repurpose what. 3345 05:22:05.280 --> 05:22:06.570 Jim Robb: Like our towers. 3346 05:22:07.560 --> 05:22:12.240 Jim Robb: Oh they're supposed to take it down the one right out of sorts says North Venice. 3347 05:22:13.560 --> 05:22:28.020 Jim Robb: So they want to take the top of the lifeguard tower down and i'm saying that if their cities only paying $1 a month or something like that, from what i'm told why couldn't we turn those into bathrooms that we need in a down here at the beach just a thought. 3348 05:22:28.440 --> 05:22:40.890 jim murez: I suggest, Jim you do the research and see if it's possible find you know find somebody to help you figure out how that how that would be repurposed what it would cost and whether or not there's a game plan that could be you know created out of it it's. 3349 05:22:41.040 --> 05:22:41.640 Jim Robb: Not night. 3350 05:22:41.910 --> 05:22:42.720 jim murez: With the idea. 3351 05:22:43.530 --> 05:22:47.760 Jim Robb: Okay, thank you i'm done i'm falling great ideas thanks guys. 3352 05:22:51.810 --> 05:22:53.070 jim murez: Okay anybody else. 3353 05:22:55.140 --> 05:23:00.000 jim murez: With somebody like to make a motion to adjourn the meeting. 3354 05:23:00.630 --> 05:23:01.980 Jim Robb: And you are during the meeting, please. 3355 05:23:02.730 --> 05:23:04.440 jim murez: Thank you, Jim anybody want a second. 3356 05:23:04.740 --> 05:23:05.430 Alley Bean: A second it. 3357 05:23:07.410 --> 05:23:08.400 jim murez: good night everyone. 3358 05:23:08.730 --> 05:23:10.230 Daffodil Tyminski: good night thanks a lot guys.