WEBVTT 1 00:00:40.980 --> 00:00:41.550 Daffodil Tyminski: hi there. 2 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:43.230 jim murez: hi how are you this evening. 3 00:00:43.590 --> 00:00:44.610 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm good, how are you. 4 00:00:46.020 --> 00:00:52.200 jim murez: Trying to keep up with everything I just ended one meeting now starting another one of them there's a third one, after this and. 5 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:54.540 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh geez what's after this. 6 00:00:54.720 --> 00:00:59.580 jim murez: move back, but I don't know if it's going to happen because he didn't have it posted in time so. 7 00:01:00.150 --> 00:01:00.570 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. 8 00:01:00.900 --> 00:01:01.260 I don't. 9 00:01:02.400 --> 00:01:09.510 jim murez: know it and see support didn't get didn't get the message as quickly as it went up everywhere else, so. 10 00:01:09.870 --> 00:01:13.080 Daffodil Tyminski: I know i've had that happen to me before too and they're pretty intractable. 11 00:01:13.620 --> 00:01:14.310 yeah it's a very. 12 00:01:16.740 --> 00:01:17.580 Daffodil Tyminski: um. 13 00:01:22.110 --> 00:01:23.910 Daffodil Tyminski: guys i'll be right back, I just want to grab something. 14 00:01:24.210 --> 00:01:25.830 jim murez: Sure vicki how was your meeting less. 15 00:01:27.870 --> 00:01:29.100 jim murez: watching the whole yet. 16 00:01:29.490 --> 00:01:31.140 vicki halliday: The homelessness committee. 17 00:01:31.620 --> 00:01:32.130 jim murez: yeah. 18 00:01:32.490 --> 00:01:34.080 vicki halliday: I was good worked out well. 19 00:01:34.530 --> 00:01:35.340 jim murez: Okay, good. 20 00:01:37.500 --> 00:01:40.110 jim murez: I didn't notice what kind of attendance you had because I just. 21 00:01:41.430 --> 00:01:44.820 vicki halliday: Think of that we have about 60 watchers plus this. 22 00:01:44.880 --> 00:01:48.930 jim murez: Is it zero or 16600 that's good. 23 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:49.980 Daffodil Tyminski: that's great. 24 00:01:51.300 --> 00:01:57.690 jim murez: yeah it's already been repurposed to do so if anybody wants to see it it's online I was watching it this morning, but I didn't get through the whole thing. 25 00:01:59.430 --> 00:02:00.990 vicki halliday: Well yeah good. 26 00:02:11.370 --> 00:02:13.200 jim murez: Sema is hear me. 27 00:02:13.710 --> 00:02:16.680 vicki halliday: Good cuz she was in her car and she was having trouble. 28 00:02:18.600 --> 00:02:19.890 jim murez: No, no, no, about that. 29 00:02:21.060 --> 00:02:24.180 vicki halliday: I think she honored to call in rather than. 30 00:02:25.470 --> 00:02:26.880 Ivan: yeah she was going to call them. 31 00:02:28.050 --> 00:02:29.310 jim murez: Well, I think she has called it. 32 00:02:29.310 --> 00:02:29.670 Daffodil Tyminski: Oh. 33 00:02:29.880 --> 00:02:31.230 jim murez: You did star something. 34 00:02:31.260 --> 00:02:31.830 Daffodil Tyminski: You know what. 35 00:02:32.100 --> 00:02:36.240 Daffodil Tyminski: A Sema i'm sorry, did you want the number to dial in. 36 00:02:36.480 --> 00:02:37.080 vicki halliday: she's on. 37 00:02:37.530 --> 00:02:38.520 Daffodil Tyminski: she's on okay. 38 00:02:38.790 --> 00:02:39.480 Sima: Night i'm in. 39 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:41.040 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay you're good okay. 40 00:02:41.790 --> 00:02:42.510 Sima: Thank you. 41 00:02:42.900 --> 00:02:43.500 yeah. 42 00:02:45.330 --> 00:02:48.180 jim murez: One is now and also so while we're waiting for us Jay. 43 00:02:50.070 --> 00:02:51.660 jim murez: I don't know i'm. 44 00:02:53.730 --> 00:02:55.020 jim murez: Calling user one. 45 00:02:57.990 --> 00:03:04.170 jim murez: let's see who is that allowed to talk what calling user one we don't know who you are, you want to unmute yourself star nine. 46 00:03:09.990 --> 00:03:12.450 jim murez: Promoting Jay we should all be here now, I think. 47 00:03:14.700 --> 00:03:15.870 jim murez: Calling user one. 48 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:23.850 jim murez: Good evening. 49 00:03:25.260 --> 00:03:28.620 jim murez: I don't know who calling user one is, I think this is just the whole committee. 50 00:03:31.290 --> 00:03:32.760 jay handal: Who do we have here have. 51 00:03:35.070 --> 00:03:35.340 jim murez: Let me. 52 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:36.570 jim murez: grab the agenda. 53 00:03:37.290 --> 00:03:43.260 jay handal: Is the time i've been here i'm here 1234567 i'm already home great. 54 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:44.190 jim murez: Let me. 55 00:03:45.900 --> 00:03:46.590 jim murez: pull up the. 56 00:03:48.570 --> 00:03:50.730 jim murez: Agenda Hopefully, this is a quick meeting. 57 00:03:51.210 --> 00:03:51.510 yep. 58 00:04:14.850 --> 00:04:15.630 jay handal: alright. 59 00:04:16.260 --> 00:04:20.070 jim murez: And just one second gem still trying to organize all these screens. 60 00:04:20.370 --> 00:04:21.060 No problem. 61 00:04:26.190 --> 00:04:27.300 jim murez: Okay, can you see that. 62 00:04:27.990 --> 00:04:28.920 jay handal: I can see it. 63 00:04:29.340 --> 00:04:29.700 yep. 64 00:04:30.840 --> 00:04:31.350 jay handal: awesome. 65 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:33.600 jim murez: Does anybody want to be co host. 66 00:04:35.580 --> 00:04:37.140 jay handal: I don't think it's going to take that long. 67 00:04:37.140 --> 00:04:37.710 jay handal: jam okay. 68 00:04:37.770 --> 00:04:38.340 jay handal: nevermind. 69 00:04:38.580 --> 00:04:39.930 Daffodil Tyminski: I think we can we all have a look. 70 00:04:40.020 --> 00:04:42.930 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm happy to run the zoom if you want me to, but we only have two. 71 00:04:44.070 --> 00:04:44.880 Daffodil Tyminski: participants. 72 00:04:45.990 --> 00:04:47.310 jim murez: i'm. 73 00:04:49.020 --> 00:04:49.620 jay handal: color me. 74 00:04:49.650 --> 00:05:00.510 jay handal: we're going to call it the order, it is whatever time it is 6026002 and we have, I am here, James is here daffodil. 75 00:05:01.050 --> 00:05:02.130 jay handal: Here you might. 76 00:05:04.740 --> 00:05:07.200 jay handal: see me, I know I know you're here, I saw you up there. 77 00:05:07.890 --> 00:05:08.400 Sima: i'm here. 78 00:05:08.790 --> 00:05:09.810 jay handal: Okay Ivan. 79 00:05:10.320 --> 00:05:11.670 jay handal: Yes, Helen. 80 00:05:13.200 --> 00:05:22.530 jay handal: Alright, so the item on the agenda tonight is a Google workspace account discussing and possible motion regarding funding for email accounts that have Venice neighborhood Council. 81 00:05:23.610 --> 00:05:31.590 jay handal: Recent changes in Google terms of use the nc no longer qualifies for free domain hosting the nc Venice nc.org. 82 00:05:32.430 --> 00:05:40.350 jay handal: And now discontinued G sweet we toasted dnc email services will expire in early August, hence this emergency meeting. 83 00:05:41.190 --> 00:05:55.830 jay handal: Next, replace an offering is called Google workspace and email accounts cost six bucks each per month, he services can be amended to add more accounts or delete accounts at anytime within the Google monthly billing cycle. 84 00:05:57.000 --> 00:05:58.530 jay handal: We have from. 85 00:05:59.790 --> 00:06:00.480 jay handal: Our. 86 00:06:00.750 --> 00:06:02.340 jim murez: Can I make Can I make the motion. 87 00:06:02.730 --> 00:06:03.780 jay handal: You can make the motion. 88 00:06:04.290 --> 00:06:12.480 jim murez: Okay, I make the motion that the Budget Committee approves some amount of funds to be used for the subscription of services to Google workspace. 89 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:18.180 jay handal: Okay, and I will let's plug that in. 90 00:06:19.980 --> 00:06:20.910 Daffodil Tyminski: need to have the number. 91 00:06:21.090 --> 00:06:25.410 jay handal: yeah I believe that our communications director. 92 00:06:25.470 --> 00:06:30.480 jay handal: sleep 4040 accounts $240 a month you. 93 00:06:30.510 --> 00:06:31.890 jim murez: Can somebody second. 94 00:06:32.850 --> 00:06:36.000 Daffodil Tyminski: i'll second that this is capital, but I do think we need the number. 95 00:06:36.150 --> 00:06:38.970 jim murez: yeah absolutely just didn't have it at the time. 96 00:06:39.030 --> 00:06:41.580 jay handal: yeah so it's $240 per month. 97 00:06:42.150 --> 00:06:42.630 jim murez: Okay. 98 00:06:42.960 --> 00:06:44.490 She is recommending. 99 00:06:45.810 --> 00:06:52.500 jay handal: Certain accounts be deleted certain accounts be remaining but in all that we will be starting. 100 00:06:52.890 --> 00:06:53.130 With. 101 00:06:55.380 --> 00:07:03.960 jay handal: Those would be live accounts of people who are on the board as well as Lou peck accounts and officer accounts. 102 00:07:04.890 --> 00:07:14.880 jay handal: She did send and Jim I think I sent you over a Google Doc that may be, if you want to share it, you can but it shows you which ones to be deleted, which ones to keep. 103 00:07:15.660 --> 00:07:26.640 jay handal: And again, this is strictly a recommendation going to the board so we're not going to make that decision, you know other than the fact that we're offering up $240 a month. 104 00:07:27.270 --> 00:07:38.730 jay handal: To get this thing through and keep our keep our history on certain ones like lupus can President and treasurer and communications, or whatever. 105 00:07:40.050 --> 00:07:48.180 jim murez: And so, anyway, can I can I ask a question, because there was some of the accounts that we used to have that were convenience accounts. 106 00:07:50.910 --> 00:07:55.950 jim murez: And you you've also described, I think one of those I think it was called funding or something. 107 00:07:57.090 --> 00:08:03.810 jim murez: With with the $240 price tag do we have the convenience accounts that we want to have, for instance chairs. 108 00:08:04.140 --> 00:08:05.370 vicki halliday: was an account yes. 109 00:08:05.430 --> 00:08:09.180 jim murez: You know, it would address all the And what about elections. 110 00:08:09.780 --> 00:08:21.630 vicki halliday: I can put elections back in gym right now, one of the things I found out from Google today i'm after we've had the account for 30 days the paid account. 111 00:08:22.590 --> 00:08:29.790 vicki halliday: I have a lot of archiving options um that are great um. 112 00:08:30.750 --> 00:08:48.450 vicki halliday: So the first month will be the healthiest month, then we can start cutting down again and adding on when we need to, but things like elections can go through the few months that they're needed or six months if they're needed and then be deleted, it just it just maintenance. 113 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:53.970 jim murez: And what it's deleted is at the same thing as inactivating it as far as the $6 a month. 114 00:08:54.690 --> 00:09:06.690 vicki halliday: um I mean we can archive the email lynette and they will stay in our account, but the the address will not exist, good. 115 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:10.560 jim murez: Okay, great i'm glad you research that that's exactly what I was hoping what happened. 116 00:09:10.800 --> 00:09:12.240 jim murez: yeah okay. 117 00:09:12.510 --> 00:09:16.800 jay handal: So are we talking about 40 accounts plus elections. 118 00:09:17.610 --> 00:09:27.990 vicki halliday: I was 40 I mean the way I broke it down with the 95 accounts that we have currently I can delete 47 immediately that keeps 48. 119 00:09:28.710 --> 00:09:46.890 vicki halliday: And that can come down to 40 within days if, but some of this is very complicated in that Secretary has like three accounts and Jim has a backup and then we have to make a board decision about these duplicate. 120 00:09:47.940 --> 00:10:01.830 vicki halliday: email addresses like for communications and then I have vicki holiday Venice nc same as all the Executive Board members, I think it would be nice to keep the ones daffodil pointed out to me earlier, a lot of people. 121 00:10:02.910 --> 00:10:12.090 vicki halliday: Have you know, been executive officers they've been board officers they've gone back and forth so maybe keep keep the Executive Board. 122 00:10:12.660 --> 00:10:18.360 jay handal: Okay, so i'm gonna i'm gonna amended to 48 accounts and $288 a month. 123 00:10:19.110 --> 00:10:21.120 vicki halliday: that's for the first month and then it will just. 124 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:26.490 jay handal: Give me now and then, when you change list, we can only spend less we don't have to spend more. 125 00:10:26.790 --> 00:10:32.370 jay handal: Right so i'm going to just amend it to 288 if there's no objections to that. 126 00:10:32.670 --> 00:10:33.150 perfect. 127 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:37.890 jay handal: And then is there any public comment or do we have any thoughts. 128 00:10:38.010 --> 00:10:38.730 Ivan: On Jay. 129 00:10:40.050 --> 00:10:40.470 Ivan: Jay. 130 00:10:41.040 --> 00:10:41.490 jay handal: Yes, sir. 131 00:10:42.210 --> 00:10:42.420 yeah. 132 00:10:43.890 --> 00:10:45.630 Ivan: Can I make an amendment to that. 133 00:10:45.990 --> 00:10:46.800 jay handal: I hope not. 134 00:10:47.550 --> 00:10:57.000 Ivan: Well i'd like county where i'd like us to recommend to the board that they authorize payment through the fit through this fiscal year budget. 135 00:10:58.770 --> 00:10:59.370 Ivan: To do. 136 00:10:59.400 --> 00:11:10.470 Ivan: We pay, we will get whatever the number is, which is going to fluctuate a little that we pay it through June, which is the end of the fiscal year 20. 137 00:11:10.560 --> 00:11:12.930 jim murez: Times 11 so I actually would. 138 00:11:13.110 --> 00:11:14.970 jim murez: I actually would rather think about. 139 00:11:16.020 --> 00:11:16.320 Ivan: well. 140 00:11:16.470 --> 00:11:18.420 Ivan: I can I get a second first. 141 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:20.520 jim murez: hang on hang on before you do. 142 00:11:20.730 --> 00:11:22.530 jay handal: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. 143 00:11:23.730 --> 00:11:29.250 jay handal: We can't discuss it until this a second to have a discussion by parliamentary rules. 144 00:11:29.250 --> 00:11:31.680 jim murez: So you want to rewrite this motion to sell it. 145 00:11:32.220 --> 00:11:38.940 jay handal: So what he wants to do is add in that this funding would be for a total of 30 $168. 146 00:11:40.050 --> 00:11:41.430 Daffodil Tyminski: No, I will second the motion. 147 00:11:41.700 --> 00:11:48.930 jay handal: Through June of 2023 so we have a second, we have a motion sick now, we can have that discussion. 148 00:11:49.890 --> 00:11:50.340 jim murez: yeah. 149 00:11:50.400 --> 00:11:52.320 Helen Fallon: We have some clarifying questions. 150 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:54.570 Helen Fallon: To from my committee before we take public. 151 00:11:55.590 --> 00:12:00.210 jay handal: yeah well, we can take public comment, and then we can have committee discussion. 152 00:12:00.810 --> 00:12:04.530 Helen Fallon: Well, I like that we should take some clarity we could have clarifying question. 153 00:12:04.530 --> 00:12:04.680 I. 154 00:12:05.790 --> 00:12:22.260 jay handal: don't like cognition this is how we're going to do it right now we have a a an amendment to emotion, which is to increase it to 30 $168 to take us through June of 2023. 155 00:12:23.550 --> 00:12:27.870 jay handal: We have, is there any public comment on that motion. 156 00:12:28.410 --> 00:12:29.640 jim murez: On the alternate motion. 157 00:12:29.730 --> 00:12:30.090 jay handal: On the. 158 00:12:30.510 --> 00:12:31.260 Ivan: second amendment. 159 00:12:31.590 --> 00:12:33.990 jim murez: To the man on the Amended motion right to. 160 00:12:34.050 --> 00:12:35.490 Ivan: know the 10th amendment. 161 00:12:36.030 --> 00:12:36.630 jim murez: You have to. 162 00:12:36.690 --> 00:12:37.470 Ivan: You have to. 163 00:12:37.740 --> 00:12:39.390 jay handal: prove the amendment yeah. 164 00:12:39.420 --> 00:12:40.020 Ivan: And then we go. 165 00:12:40.290 --> 00:12:43.080 jay handal: To the demanded motion right i'm trying to do that guys. 166 00:12:43.470 --> 00:12:47.040 jay handal: So okay any public comment on the amended most. 167 00:12:47.310 --> 00:12:49.500 jim murez: misread man has her hand up. 168 00:12:49.620 --> 00:12:52.710 jay handal: Okay, Miss redman please have one minute. 169 00:12:54.240 --> 00:13:05.610 Lisa Redmond: i'm i'm a little confused because you never even took public comment on the first motion and there were two amendments sense and all clarifying questions should be answered before comment again. 170 00:13:05.940 --> 00:13:06.420 jay handal: we're gonna. 171 00:13:08.820 --> 00:13:16.800 Lisa Redmond: parliamentary rules i'm just confused, on the whole thing because there are several issues $6 is a lot per account. 172 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:29.280 Lisa Redmond: Has anybody made due diligence and made calls to other web vendors and other web host has anyone made a call to other neighborhood Councils to see what they do. 173 00:13:29.760 --> 00:13:43.410 Lisa Redmond: It just you're spending over three, you know anywhere around $3,000 under or slightly over that's that's a lot of money for a year just on email accounts alone so. 174 00:13:43.980 --> 00:13:53.670 Lisa Redmond: i'm just i'm just blown away that you haven't done any due diligence or shown it to be proof that there's due diligence being done to take other. 175 00:13:54.900 --> 00:13:58.590 Lisa Redmond: vendors and other checking into other amount. 176 00:13:58.890 --> 00:14:01.230 jay handal: Thank you Lisa any other public comment. 177 00:14:03.090 --> 00:14:16.230 jim murez: There are no other hands raised there is calling user one I don't know if they know that they need to raise their hand or how to do it, I earlier asked if they wanted to speak and they didn't respond so. 178 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:19.710 jay handal: Okay, so then public comment is closed on the amendment. 179 00:14:20.970 --> 00:14:22.620 jay handal: will take a boat on the amendment. 180 00:14:22.680 --> 00:14:24.330 jim murez: So before we do. 181 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:24.870 We have a little. 182 00:14:27.030 --> 00:14:27.780 Helen Fallon: On the Committee. 183 00:14:28.680 --> 00:14:31.170 jay handal: i'm sorry we will have committee comments, yes. 184 00:14:32.400 --> 00:14:35.550 jay handal: Please raise your hand if you have a committee comment Helen. 185 00:14:36.150 --> 00:14:37.860 jim murez: trying to figure out how to do that. 186 00:14:39.990 --> 00:14:41.910 jay handal: So Helen your your hand is up. 187 00:14:42.930 --> 00:14:44.580 Helen Fallon: I was trying to undo my video. 188 00:14:44.910 --> 00:14:45.600 Helen Fallon: Okay um. 189 00:14:47.490 --> 00:14:56.580 Helen Fallon: I would really like to know and i'm going to apply in and I wanted, and I think this applies to this entire concept one this can have come out of the last minute. 190 00:14:57.000 --> 00:15:00.300 Helen Fallon: So, have we found out what other mcs are doing. 191 00:15:00.750 --> 00:15:02.550 Helen Fallon: at nine and he's in this city. 192 00:15:02.910 --> 00:15:11.370 Helen Fallon: This is is this like some kind of bonus event for Google, I mean we're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars that it's going to be spent by the city. 193 00:15:11.850 --> 00:15:12.270 vicki halliday: and 194 00:15:12.690 --> 00:15:21.450 Helen Fallon: You know what research has been done, have we contacted web corner, they are, I mean what so please give us some background here. 195 00:15:21.450 --> 00:15:23.280 vicki halliday: i'd be happy to one. 196 00:15:25.530 --> 00:15:26.400 vicki halliday: gets was done. 197 00:15:27.510 --> 00:15:35.910 vicki halliday: We have researched everything this came up about a month ago, Google and i've talked to them are rebranding what was known as legacy G sweet. 198 00:15:36.390 --> 00:15:45.930 vicki halliday: is different, they have moved it to something called workspace which will not be free, only to nonprofits and educational organizations that's it so. 199 00:15:46.290 --> 00:15:59.880 vicki halliday: I talked through that we can't get off the hook, yes, we have investigated servers other email systems all sorts of things, but we can't affect anything like that quick enough, so this is a bridge. 200 00:16:00.990 --> 00:16:14.340 vicki halliday: For us for continuity sake i've talked to other mcs it's all over the place on some pay this every month others tell people when they're elected oh go go set up an email for yourself. 201 00:16:15.690 --> 00:16:19.890 vicki halliday: um and there's there's no archiving or anything. 202 00:16:20.430 --> 00:16:21.480 jay handal: Okay, thank you vicki. 203 00:16:21.810 --> 00:16:23.520 Helen Fallon: archive is the archiving. 204 00:16:23.520 --> 00:16:24.000 jay handal: them. 205 00:16:24.270 --> 00:16:28.530 Helen Fallon: Jim State law requires us to maintain these accounts for at least two years. 206 00:16:28.890 --> 00:16:29.400 jay handal: You know they. 207 00:16:29.610 --> 00:16:31.380 jay handal: were not required to maintain the. 208 00:16:31.470 --> 00:16:32.790 Helen Fallon: yeah you are the State Law. 209 00:16:32.790 --> 00:16:33.210 jay handal: Was. 210 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:36.150 jay handal: Not required we have it from. 211 00:16:36.150 --> 00:16:37.710 Helen Fallon: done okay. 212 00:16:37.770 --> 00:16:39.540 Helen Fallon: that's not me. 213 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:40.710 jay handal: Jim please. 214 00:16:41.190 --> 00:16:53.040 jim murez: Okay, so um, let me just speak for a minute Helen to answer a bit of what vicki was saying i've been hosting email for the better part of 35 years. 215 00:16:53.880 --> 00:17:03.480 jim murez: back when cgs son was running a company called post office i'm very, very familiar with email, and what it takes to host. 216 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:15.030 jim murez: vicki has done due diligence, I asked her to do certain things I got some Why am I doing that, but she did it and she did a good job of it, and she gave you a very accurate answer. 217 00:17:15.900 --> 00:17:25.710 jim murez: We need to go with the answer I am a bit concerned that we're setting $1 amount I believe what we really want to do is just set a. 218 00:17:26.850 --> 00:17:37.050 jim murez: concept to number of email accounts required by communication should be funded at a rate of $6 a piece and not set $1 amount. 219 00:17:37.500 --> 00:17:55.680 jim murez: And not limited to 40 accounts or 238 accounts or to 72 accounts, but rather to being able to fill the job that's required by communications and and let communications, be the one to to. 220 00:17:56.520 --> 00:18:06.270 jim murez: subscribe to to whatever that needs to be done to take care of the rest of our needs, so I am in favor of having an annual something. 221 00:18:06.570 --> 00:18:15.990 jim murez: But I don't think we want to set a price tag on and unless it's not to exceed some amount of money and to give the vicki or whoever the communications officers it's coming up. 222 00:18:16.590 --> 00:18:33.240 jim murez: After the next election cycle, the ability to be able to do what the board needs without having to go through a lot of additional rigmarole and and I will continue to help vicki along the way, find whatever the best solution is for us that's possible Thank you. 223 00:18:33.510 --> 00:18:34.050 Before. 224 00:18:35.250 --> 00:18:35.400 Helen Fallon: My. 225 00:18:36.870 --> 00:18:49.560 Helen Fallon: comment that I was interrupted by you Jay I understanding is the State law requires when it's paid for by on a government funds to make you have to keep an archive it for two years i'm asking vicki. 226 00:18:50.190 --> 00:19:01.110 Helen Fallon: Will that archive because she said, well, we could just cancel you know we could remove it will not be available so and there's no cost for that, or do we have to maintain that on a separate Google drive. 227 00:19:01.350 --> 00:19:02.370 jim murez: let's Let me try. 228 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:05.220 jim murez: Let me try, let me try and answer that. 229 00:19:05.460 --> 00:19:14.760 jim murez: The archive doesn't necessarily have to be online the archive can just as well be on a private hard drive that the dnc own stores and its storage. 230 00:19:15.180 --> 00:19:26.460 jim murez: And there are transfer programs that are fundamentally free just by converting the the email account from an eye map account to a pop three account and then saving the file locally. 231 00:19:26.730 --> 00:19:29.670 jim murez: That would allow her to do that, so we can do that next month. 232 00:19:29.910 --> 00:19:32.520 jim murez: But right now, we just need to get past where we are today. 233 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:44.520 jim murez: And they want to do more research Helen about whether or not we need to keep stuff for 30 days like done said or for two years, like you're saying great do it, I think that would be wonderful, we would love to have. 234 00:19:44.520 --> 00:19:45.840 Helen Fallon: You kept writing from. 235 00:19:46.140 --> 00:19:49.680 jay handal: About three have it in writing from done can we please move. 236 00:19:50.250 --> 00:19:51.660 Helen Fallon: forward it to me because that's how. 237 00:19:52.740 --> 00:19:54.090 jay handal: we'll have it ready for the board. 238 00:19:55.590 --> 00:19:58.620 jay handal: And then daffodil and then we'll take a boat Ivan take. 239 00:19:58.770 --> 00:20:01.770 Ivan: A couple of things because we've been working on this for a week now. 240 00:20:03.150 --> 00:20:05.010 Ivan: I had a long conversation with Freddie. 241 00:20:06.330 --> 00:20:10.290 Ivan: Unless we have it in our standing rules which we don't. 242 00:20:11.730 --> 00:20:14.280 Ivan: There is no retention policy. 243 00:20:15.360 --> 00:20:23.490 Ivan: Zero if we want it, we have to create it, we can make it for 30 days, if we want, but right now there is none. 244 00:20:24.780 --> 00:20:31.020 Ivan: If we don't deal with this in the next 10 days or is it 10 days ricky the cutoff. 245 00:20:32.550 --> 00:20:35.820 jim murez: that's it's down vicki are muted and it's down to seven days by now. 246 00:20:36.270 --> 00:20:44.250 Ivan: yeah Okay, so if we don't do this within seven days the Board is going to lose all of their emails period. 247 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:53.370 Ivan: everything's going to be gone okay now The second point is the reason that I made this amendment for. 248 00:20:54.300 --> 00:21:08.760 Ivan: A year is I don't want to have to come back to this every month looks you know vicki did the research but to pay for it for the year at that point we can decide if we want to keep it or not, but I don't want to have to deal with this with the board every month. 249 00:21:09.570 --> 00:21:17.250 jay handal: So let me, let me just clarify something for all of you we're not paying a whole amount of money up front we're allocating. 250 00:21:19.470 --> 00:21:34.290 jay handal: Based on DVD males to get us through the end of the fiscal year if we spend less because we call it down to 40 then we spend less Jim your comment about you know. 251 00:21:34.890 --> 00:21:46.980 jay handal: We you know, whatever it is for next year next year is budgets going to have to spell out a new amount and a new approval anyway, this only will be valid through this fiscal year. 252 00:21:47.460 --> 00:21:57.630 jay handal: So we're gonna have to do this again after the new board comes in, in July and a new budget is submitted to the city, so this is really. 253 00:21:58.110 --> 00:22:03.870 jay handal: A a stopgap be a protection measure, so we don't lose everything that's there. 254 00:22:04.560 --> 00:22:12.930 jay handal: and see, hopefully, you know if someone comes up with a better idea I don't think there's anybody who wants to spend money that we don't have to spend. 255 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:28.080 jay handal: But I think at this point coming back every month to authorize another payment and go through this every month unless someone comes up with something better and brings it to budget, then you know at least we're covered until we find something. 256 00:22:28.410 --> 00:22:31.440 Helen Fallon: that's all I know we do it quarterly that way then vicki can. 257 00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:38.760 Helen Fallon: find a couple of months and say this is what we purge, this is what we need got some time to come up with an organized plan. 258 00:22:38.910 --> 00:22:41.160 jay handal: Okay got it Thank you daffodil. 259 00:22:42.870 --> 00:22:57.000 Daffodil Tyminski: yeah a couple things one Helen I I am on your page i'm with you on this I can't believe that the city's interpretation of document retention, is that we can out run State law, but that is what the city attorney has told us. 260 00:22:57.930 --> 00:23:08.130 Daffodil Tyminski: But regardless though all the accounts that are being deleted have already been archived Jim, as I understand it, or at least we will at least download them and put them on a hard drive, so we have it. 261 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:11.610 jim murez: I have not tried to all of those accounts, if you thinking that I did. 262 00:23:12.210 --> 00:23:16.140 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay well that's I don't want to have that whole discussion here because we. 263 00:23:16.350 --> 00:23:18.660 Daffodil Tyminski: We have a plan in place to get everything done. 264 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:19.260 jim murez: We have. 265 00:23:20.250 --> 00:23:20.700 jay handal: It right. 266 00:23:21.450 --> 00:23:22.110 jay handal: At this point. 267 00:23:22.350 --> 00:23:35.640 Daffodil Tyminski: Right i'm just saying i'm with you, I when I saw the you know the interpretation, as someone who's done a lot of this document retention stuff I I would think that you need to keep everything but it's sort of a moot point here because we're doing it anyway. 268 00:23:37.530 --> 00:23:39.210 Daffodil Tyminski: And um. 269 00:23:40.470 --> 00:23:51.810 Daffodil Tyminski: You know, we did look around all over the city it's being done all different ways, and I think the idea is let's make sure we maintain the continuity of our communications, for the moment. 270 00:23:53.010 --> 00:24:00.360 Daffodil Tyminski: And then we can look and see if there's something else that's worthwhile and this goes to Lisa to there are cheaper ways to actually. 271 00:24:00.390 --> 00:24:20.100 Daffodil Tyminski: host per month, but sometimes when you do that there's no other costs that you have that when you factor back in this gmail way was the better way to go, because it gives us access to actually all of G sweet so it's better for cognitive calendaring it's better for. 272 00:24:21.600 --> 00:24:25.440 Daffodil Tyminski: The documents I forgot the call driver the driver something. 273 00:24:26.190 --> 00:24:33.210 Daffodil Tyminski: there's a lot that comes with it, that actually could cut down on costs for other stuff so for the moment we thought Well, this is good let's just do this now. 274 00:24:33.750 --> 00:24:39.090 Daffodil Tyminski: And you know we'll call down to the absolute bare minimum number of emails and then we can see it, is it worth it. 275 00:24:39.630 --> 00:24:51.900 Daffodil Tyminski: You know, with the number of emails we probably need and the other costs that come in, it may not be worth it, to actually have a private server which you know we pay for one since very um so anyway, I just wanted that to be clear and. 276 00:24:53.670 --> 00:24:59.640 Daffodil Tyminski: As Jay said, and I think Ivan maybe said, the retention issue, I personally think is goofy but. 277 00:25:00.660 --> 00:25:01.590 Daffodil Tyminski: that's what they told us. 278 00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:02.460 jay handal: Not our call. 279 00:25:02.730 --> 00:25:03.420 Daffodil Tyminski: Not our call. 280 00:25:03.900 --> 00:25:07.560 jay handal: So That being said, we're going to go to a vote. 281 00:25:09.390 --> 00:25:11.490 jay handal: So, Jim if you want to record the boat. 282 00:25:12.450 --> 00:25:13.020 Lisa Redmond: yeah this is. 283 00:25:13.650 --> 00:25:15.870 jay handal: This is a vote to. 284 00:25:16.290 --> 00:25:17.640 jim murez: apply this is this is. 285 00:25:18.450 --> 00:25:19.500 jim murez: The alternate. 286 00:25:19.530 --> 00:25:21.750 jay handal: Or the Amended motion of the amended. 287 00:25:21.750 --> 00:25:24.090 Ivan: motion to approve the amendment. 288 00:25:24.450 --> 00:25:33.690 jay handal: Right, this is the vote to approve the amendment first by Ivan second by daffodil to approve 30 168 and funds. 289 00:25:33.810 --> 00:25:37.950 Ivan: No, no, that wasn't the motion J wasn't there was no dollar figure. 290 00:25:39.510 --> 00:25:40.290 Ivan: payment. 291 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:41.730 Ivan: Which is going to fluctuate. 292 00:25:41.790 --> 00:25:42.270 Ivan: We have you. 293 00:25:43.080 --> 00:25:46.080 jay handal: know you have this is funding, you have to have a number. 294 00:25:46.740 --> 00:25:50.640 jay handal: Okay, then 48 accounts time six is 31 at. 295 00:25:50.970 --> 00:25:51.510 That stone. 296 00:25:52.620 --> 00:25:52.980 jay handal: So. 297 00:25:53.010 --> 00:25:54.570 jim murez: Where do you want to add, excuse me. 298 00:25:55.560 --> 00:25:57.720 jay handal: i'm sorry 6831 68. 299 00:25:58.350 --> 00:25:58.950 jay handal: So that. 300 00:25:58.980 --> 00:26:03.390 jay handal: Promotion as it's written under alternate motion to. 301 00:26:03.690 --> 00:26:08.220 jay handal: Okay, and meant to the original motion I vote yes, Jim. 302 00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:12.780 jim murez: hang on one second yes. 303 00:26:13.170 --> 00:26:15.480 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay daffodil yes. 304 00:26:15.750 --> 00:26:16.320 seema. 305 00:26:20.760 --> 00:26:21.270 jay handal: seema. 306 00:26:21.870 --> 00:26:22.860 Sima: hi yes. 307 00:26:23.490 --> 00:26:25.260 Ivan: Ivan yes. 308 00:26:25.620 --> 00:26:26.130 Helen. 309 00:26:27.510 --> 00:26:28.350 Helen Fallon: should be quarterly. 310 00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:35.850 jay handal: Helen yes or no, or no Okay, the motion passes, now we go to the full motion. 311 00:26:36.150 --> 00:26:38.550 Helen Fallon: I like to take advantage of emotion again. 312 00:26:38.550 --> 00:26:40.110 Helen Fallon: As amen pass nevermind. 313 00:26:41.190 --> 00:26:42.660 jay handal: motion as amended. 314 00:26:43.380 --> 00:26:45.180 jay handal: So says yes. 315 00:26:45.630 --> 00:26:48.510 jim murez: Wait how is, how is the motion now written. 316 00:26:49.620 --> 00:26:58.020 jay handal: The budget the Budget Committee approves 30 168 basically it's the Amended motion. 317 00:26:58.590 --> 00:26:59.910 jim murez: It is the amended vote yeah. 318 00:26:59.970 --> 00:27:10.350 jay handal: it's the same as the Amended motion but we're going to do it again, because this is the motion as amended so it's 31 68.0. 319 00:27:10.710 --> 00:27:14.400 jay handal: OK and Jay votes, yes, James. 320 00:27:14.520 --> 00:27:20.250 Helen Fallon: Could you slow down a second here jake has that motion doesn't make any sense because I wasn't given any context. 321 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:21.930 Helen Fallon: is for the entire. 322 00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:23.370 Ivan: Day we're in the middle of a vote. 323 00:27:23.790 --> 00:27:25.050 Helen Fallon: Okay, go ahead and vote. 324 00:27:25.410 --> 00:27:29.670 jay handal: Jane does happen, please stop interrupting. 325 00:27:29.820 --> 00:27:30.630 Helen Fallon: Well you're Russia. 326 00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:32.190 don't give anybody. 327 00:27:34.050 --> 00:27:36.240 jay handal: Tell me comment Helen we had. 328 00:27:37.050 --> 00:27:39.180 jay handal: emotion daffodil. 329 00:27:39.840 --> 00:27:41.430 jay handal: Yes, same. 330 00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:44.340 Sima: Here I. 331 00:27:45.810 --> 00:27:46.410 jay handal: see my. 332 00:27:49.020 --> 00:27:50.070 Sima: Yes, did you. 333 00:27:50.700 --> 00:27:52.740 Sima: hear me yeah got it Ivan. 334 00:27:53.190 --> 00:27:54.720 jay handal: Yes, L m. 335 00:27:55.110 --> 00:28:01.260 jay handal: O OK that motion passes as written in the computer. 336 00:28:01.740 --> 00:28:03.570 jay handal: it's okay amen. 337 00:28:05.100 --> 00:28:07.440 jay handal: amen know any other public comment. 338 00:28:08.250 --> 00:28:10.920 Helen Fallon: yeah make a note or was no public comment on this. 339 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:12.420 jay handal: Motion and only comment. 340 00:28:14.040 --> 00:28:16.770 jim murez: hey there are no, there are no hands raised. 341 00:28:16.800 --> 00:28:17.670 jay handal: or I know hands. 342 00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:20.400 Helen Fallon: For. 343 00:28:21.630 --> 00:28:22.500 jim murez: me Lisa. 344 00:28:22.740 --> 00:28:25.560 jim murez: And just went up Lisa redmond tan just went up. 345 00:28:25.770 --> 00:28:28.920 jay handal: Okay, how much comment, not on the agenda. 346 00:28:31.170 --> 00:28:44.070 Lisa Redmond: Well there's not an agenda item that says public comment, not on the agenda and I didn't get to make public comment on the motion, so how can I make public comment now it's just well I guess expect a grievance. 347 00:28:45.330 --> 00:28:48.420 jay handal: You can comment at the board we're just recommending to the board. 348 00:28:51.750 --> 00:29:02.490 Lisa Redmond: there's gonna be a special meeting of the Board because everything's gonna be rushed out that you have to do this in the next seven days, and then you won't have emails that's going to happen before the August 16. 349 00:29:02.670 --> 00:29:06.090 jay handal: I won't be there won't be a special meeting of the Board correct. 350 00:29:06.150 --> 00:29:08.460 Lisa Redmond: Well that's great you love special meetings in this. 351 00:29:08.490 --> 00:29:11.250 jay handal: I don't particularly love special meetings, trusting. 352 00:29:11.730 --> 00:29:14.280 Lisa Redmond: Well there's a lot to do, because they happen often J. 353 00:29:14.550 --> 00:29:23.070 jay handal: Okay well we're trying to narrow all lead down Lisa you know did a lot of stuff happened in the past that you know we can fix and we're trying to do that. 354 00:29:24.900 --> 00:29:27.900 Lisa Redmond: Thanks for commenting back on my public comment yay. 355 00:29:29.520 --> 00:29:32.430 jay handal: i'm good at it Okay, can I have a motion to adjourn. 356 00:29:32.460 --> 00:29:33.660 jim murez: there's one other hand, right. 357 00:29:34.860 --> 00:29:36.240 jay handal: yeah I can't see hands. 358 00:29:36.420 --> 00:29:38.670 jim murez: there's a Leon. 359 00:29:39.660 --> 00:29:41.760 jim murez: Lionel Lionel. 360 00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:43.350 Maris. 361 00:29:44.430 --> 00:29:47.700 jim murez: A whole dog looking to there you go go ahead and speak. 362 00:29:47.970 --> 00:29:54.870 Lionel Mares: Yes, thank you, I just want i'm kind of sad in that to see other neighborhood Council members are you. 363 00:29:55.350 --> 00:30:11.730 Lionel Mares: And we had the same thing in my neighborhood concept and let's just get along and work on solving issues in a polite civil manner because it's kind of sad like you know I go to Venice beach a lot in and we just too it's too much drama and kids it just work together, please thanks. 364 00:30:12.540 --> 00:30:14.550 jay handal: Thank you, while other any other hand. 365 00:30:14.550 --> 00:30:15.000 Ivan: Is jack. 366 00:30:15.090 --> 00:30:16.500 jim murez: Yes, dragon at this. 367 00:30:17.490 --> 00:30:19.110 Ivan: Point before you take a vote. 368 00:30:20.430 --> 00:30:23.070 Ivan: Before you adjourn, we need to. 369 00:30:24.600 --> 00:30:29.820 Ivan: Tell the board, where the money is coming from what line item that's part of our function. 370 00:30:30.660 --> 00:30:31.200 Okay. 371 00:30:33.540 --> 00:30:35.490 jim murez: Can that happen in the board meeting. 372 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:40.620 Ivan: know that has come from budget that's the whole reason, things have to go to budget. 373 00:30:41.820 --> 00:30:42.180 jim murez: know what. 374 00:30:42.600 --> 00:30:44.220 Ivan: Where is this money going to come from. 375 00:30:44.520 --> 00:30:48.660 jim murez: When budget presents it can that be part of the. 376 00:30:49.080 --> 00:30:50.220 Ivan: know we have to. 377 00:30:50.370 --> 00:30:51.480 Ivan: resign Jim. 378 00:30:52.140 --> 00:30:54.750 jim murez: Oh, I see what you're saying, where it's coming from today. 379 00:30:54.900 --> 00:30:58.680 Ivan: We have simple do we have a line item. 380 00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:02.430 jim murez: We have an office account, do we not office expenses. 381 00:31:02.460 --> 00:31:03.660 Ivan: We have come from their. 382 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:11.010 jay handal: inches of about 11,000 and change, I believe, so we can recommend it comes from the office expense account. 383 00:31:11.700 --> 00:31:13.530 Ivan: Okay, can I make that motion then. 384 00:31:15.390 --> 00:31:15.570 Lisa Redmond: You. 385 00:31:16.110 --> 00:31:16.590 cannot. 386 00:31:18.810 --> 00:31:25.290 jay handal: it's not on the agenda to be pulled from there, but before it can get that recommendation. 387 00:31:26.340 --> 00:31:34.710 jay handal: That can be an agenda item for the board to move moving from actually you know what it's it's a office item. 388 00:31:35.130 --> 00:31:40.230 jim murez: it's an office item I don't think we need anything special it's just an office item expense. 389 00:31:40.560 --> 00:31:42.930 jay handal: yeah exactly exactly. 390 00:31:43.050 --> 00:31:43.590 jay handal: It would. 391 00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:54.060 jim murez: It would be the same thing that that that you know other computer services if we needed something special done, it would be come out of that line item as well, certainly isn't outreach. 392 00:31:54.570 --> 00:31:55.590 jim murez: know this. 393 00:31:55.980 --> 00:31:57.600 jay handal: Definitely if. 394 00:31:58.950 --> 00:32:07.080 Ivan: i'm not trying to force, something I just don't want to have it sent back by the board because it's not complete that's all I don't care where it comes from. 395 00:32:07.170 --> 00:32:08.970 jay handal: needs to come from the office budget. 396 00:32:09.600 --> 00:32:10.800 Ivan: Okay that's that's fine. 397 00:32:11.100 --> 00:32:13.260 jay handal: Okay, can I get a motion to adjourn. 398 00:32:14.250 --> 00:32:15.930 jim murez: yep i'll make the motion. 399 00:32:16.380 --> 00:32:18.000 jay handal: by Jim second by. 400 00:32:20.520 --> 00:32:21.330 Daffodil Tyminski: Second, the motion. 401 00:32:23.250 --> 00:32:23.850 of journey. 402 00:32:25.470 --> 00:32:27.510 jay handal: Anybody abstaining from a journey. 403 00:32:28.710 --> 00:32:30.270 jay handal: than we are adjourned, thank you all. 404 00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:33.480 Sima: Right, thank you, everybody Thank you so much. 405 00:32:33.840 --> 00:32:47.970 jim murez: Everybody can I want everybody still on, can I just ask to take a quick straw poll um when do people think we can meet for the board, would it be Monday or Tuesday I want to make sure vicki has enough time to do what she needs to do. 406 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:52.440 jim murez: Is everybody free on Monday or Tuesday. 407 00:32:52.740 --> 00:32:53.250 vicki halliday: I am. 408 00:32:53.310 --> 00:32:58.410 Sima: A Tuesday wait at night, no because Tuesday we've got a national night out. 409 00:32:58.470 --> 00:33:01.320 vicki halliday: Oh national night out singles right we've got the. 410 00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:17.280 Sima: I, I have to reschedule my outreach Jim actually, thank you for bringing this up because Jay and Jim one of the things we're going to have to do in order to satisfy this 30 year of Jesus third year 30 day event. 411 00:33:18.300 --> 00:33:26.340 Sima: Once I get an answer from the candidates we're gonna have to just have a special board meeting to approve that because there's no other way to get around it with the timeline. 412 00:33:26.910 --> 00:33:28.200 Ivan: that's come back to budget. 413 00:33:29.040 --> 00:33:32.070 Sima: Right so i'm just giving you guys a heads up it'll be. 414 00:33:32.100 --> 00:33:35.910 Sima: it'll have to be like a 15 minute meeting but we're going to need to vote on that because. 415 00:33:35.940 --> 00:33:37.140 Sima: When I hear from. 416 00:33:38.010 --> 00:33:40.650 jim murez: Budget normally meets once a month. 417 00:33:41.730 --> 00:33:47.700 jim murez: If it budget meets in in early August it doesn't have to be a special meeting. 418 00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:51.330 Sima: But I need to submit the. 419 00:33:51.330 --> 00:34:00.750 Sima: Permit and I need this special event request has to be in at least 30 days and I need the board vote back. 420 00:34:01.290 --> 00:34:02.130 jim murez: So when that. 421 00:34:02.700 --> 00:34:07.050 jim murez: When it when is when are you thinking that you're going to have your event. 422 00:34:07.590 --> 00:34:17.490 Sima: So this all falls and dies on Karen bass just you guys I don't want to talk about this actually in in public and we won't be we won't be. 423 00:34:18.600 --> 00:34:19.200 Sima: i'm just. 424 00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:21.090 jim murez: telling you a timeline wait. 425 00:34:21.630 --> 00:34:35.790 jim murez: Wait, let me just interrupt you Sema we're not asking you for details about the event, I really don't want to hear about it now, either because it doesn't sound like it's fully planned out, I just want to have an idea of what is the date that you're thinking. 426 00:34:35.820 --> 00:34:38.130 Sima: of having tember 14th. 427 00:34:38.370 --> 00:34:38.790 Sima: So we. 428 00:34:39.870 --> 00:34:40.470 Ivan: have fun. 429 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:42.210 jim murez: So if it's September. 430 00:34:42.210 --> 00:34:45.000 jim murez: 14 30 day. 431 00:34:45.780 --> 00:34:51.030 jim murez: 30 days would be approximately August 14 is that what you're saying. 432 00:34:51.390 --> 00:35:05.190 jim murez: Right now, as I recall the board meeting is August 16 so I guess, my question is is how firm is your August 14 day, could you push it to the 17th and then have one day to get your paperwork in. 433 00:35:05.700 --> 00:35:06.030 Now. 434 00:35:07.560 --> 00:35:07.980 Ivan: Okay. 435 00:35:08.460 --> 00:35:12.060 jim murez: because that means we have to not only have the budget meeting in early. 436 00:35:13.170 --> 00:35:17.040 jim murez: August, we also have to have another special board meeting. 437 00:35:19.680 --> 00:35:22.680 jim murez: And we have to have an upcoming meeting so that's a lot of meetings for a. 438 00:35:22.680 --> 00:35:29.520 Daffodil Tyminski: lot of people is the budget meeting going to occur before the special board meeting anyway, such that we could just leave the room. 439 00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.310 jim murez: yeah, but it still means we have to have to board meetings. 440 00:35:32.310 --> 00:35:32.940 jim murez: In August. 441 00:35:33.030 --> 00:35:33.870 Daffodil Tyminski: We lose Helen. 442 00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:36.090 Daffodil Tyminski: No okay. 443 00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:40.260 Sima: I don't think we have to it's only two days earlier. 444 00:35:40.710 --> 00:35:55.740 Sima: that's that's the point it's only two days earlier, so we would just have to schedule a meeting, maybe two days earlier because it's important listen at all, it lives and dies in the next week so i'll have more information I wanted you guys as a courtesy, just to have a heads up. 445 00:35:57.330 --> 00:35:57.630 jay handal: Okay. 446 00:35:58.530 --> 00:35:59.010 vicki halliday: Or can. 447 00:36:00.240 --> 00:36:00.930 vicki halliday: Exchange. 448 00:36:01.080 --> 00:36:02.700 vicki halliday: I just looked at the calendar. 449 00:36:04.290 --> 00:36:09.120 vicki halliday: The drop dead, time is August 4 so midnight. 450 00:36:10.260 --> 00:36:11.430 vicki halliday: Which is Thursday. 451 00:36:12.690 --> 00:36:15.780 vicki halliday: So we could have a meeting on Monday or Wednesday. 452 00:36:18.600 --> 00:36:19.050 Ivan: Okay. 453 00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:20.880 jay handal: yeah could. 454 00:36:20.940 --> 00:36:26.520 Ivan: Could you call the Clerk and tell who cooks two or 31 days and August. 455 00:36:28.230 --> 00:36:32.190 Ivan: Could Could you ask her if we could be one day late because our. 456 00:36:32.220 --> 00:36:34.200 Ivan: board meeting is that next day. 457 00:36:35.130 --> 00:36:39.570 Ivan: yeah we're asking for a 24 hour extension, so we don't. 458 00:36:40.830 --> 00:36:45.210 jay handal: Maybe, let me get together with Sema and find out the scope of this event. 459 00:36:45.210 --> 00:36:52.470 jay handal: Okay we're not bringing in food and you're not bringing a band and it's it's a candidate, you know forum. 460 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.690 Sima: it's all virtual it's all. 461 00:36:55.860 --> 00:36:57.480 Ivan: still want the 30 day let's do. 462 00:36:57.990 --> 00:37:00.420 jim murez: That let's take this, let me just. 463 00:37:02.970 --> 00:37:19.410 jim murez: let's take it offline let's finish this meeting, let me just let me just do one quick question vicki you said, we have until the fourth that's Thursday, how do you intend to pay for the accounts, assuming that the board approves them. 464 00:37:19.710 --> 00:37:20.430 vicki halliday: credit card. 465 00:37:21.270 --> 00:37:25.860 jim murez: And who has that credit card with the ability to be able to. 466 00:37:26.370 --> 00:37:28.080 jay handal: We can get it done Jim we got it. 467 00:37:28.410 --> 00:37:35.340 jim murez: Okay, I just want to make sure that if we can't get a quorum on Monday, and it has to be on Thursday. 468 00:37:36.780 --> 00:37:39.030 jim murez: And let me just check one other thing before we. 469 00:37:40.620 --> 00:37:41.580 jim murez: get off here. 470 00:37:42.750 --> 00:37:45.810 jim murez: Let me just see what other zoom meetings are already planned. 471 00:37:49.380 --> 00:38:05.790 jim murez: yeah August 4 is a zoom meeting for loop pack but there's nothing in between now and then okay so we're good okay let's try from I think let's try for Monday and if we can't make Monday, then we'll go for Thursday. 472 00:38:07.140 --> 00:38:07.740 jay handal: sounds good. 473 00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:09.900 jim murez: Thank you, everybody. 474 00:38:11.520 --> 00:38:11.760 jay handal: Thanks. 475 00:38:12.180 --> 00:38:13.350 Daffodil Tyminski: guys thanks, thank you for doing. 476 00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:14.850 Sima: Thank you. 477 00:38:15.390 --> 00:38:16.680 Sima: Thank you Jay Thank you. 478 00:38:16.680 --> 00:38:18.540 jim murez: Everybody and Jay. 479 00:38:19.890 --> 00:38:20.730 Ivan: All the work here. 480 00:38:21.270 --> 00:38:29.790 jim murez: Jay I will go ahead and and create the board agenda and and and get everybody prepared for for for Monday. 481 00:38:30.270 --> 00:38:30.900 jay handal: sounds good. 482 00:38:31.380 --> 00:38:32.040 jim murez: Thank you, Sir. 483 00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:33.060 jay handal: Thank you guys. 484 00:38:33.120 --> 00:38:34.230 vicki halliday: appreciate it.