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hey.

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jim murez: we're just waiting for more more committee members to show up before we can start.

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jay handal: Good evening all.

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jim murez: Waiting for some more committee folks to show up.

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jay handal: cool i'm here.

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yep.

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alley bean: Hello.

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jim murez: Hello.

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alley bean: Oh hi Jim utter.

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Daff: Ali i'm driving directions.

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alley bean: daffodil just sent me the link.

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Daff: I just logged on myself Jim.

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alley bean: i'm so sorry, thank you.

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alley bean: You don't need to come if you're in sag harbor or.

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Daff: Oh it's fine it's fine i'm in New York it's fine.

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Daff: it's fine I just.

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Daff: lost track of time I was having dinner.

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alley bean: Thank you so much that's so nice you Thank you.

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alley bean: i'm driving, so I can't see your video but.

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alley bean: i'm on this Tom.

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Daff: Okay, Jim here.

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jim murez: yeah we're just waiting for more committee members, this point there's four we need five.

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alley bean: Who do you need.

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Daff: Okay.

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alley bean: I have text numbers and stuff what you need.

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jim murez: um.

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jim murez: Well, the people that are not here include Melissa who I spoke to this afternoon, and she said she was going to be here.

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jim murez: NICO Jason sugars and Mike bravo.

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alley bean: Let me see if I can text someone.

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Daff: i'll take some folks to Ali who your contacts.

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alley bean: All text Jason.

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alley bean: Okay i'm just gonna pull up her hold on okay i'll pull over.

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Daff: And Jimmy said, Melissa.

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Daff: Yes, okay texting her now.

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jim murez: She was she was planning on coming.

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alley bean: Jason and Mike.

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Daff: Okay, I just texted NICO so i'll take some also now.

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Okay.

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alley bean: And i'm gonna keep driving.

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alley bean: i'm so sorry the tropics gnarly right now.

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Daff: So I know Jim that Ivan isn't the attendee list i'm gonna allow him to speak, or could you promote him as panelists.

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jim murez: yeah I was just trying to keep track of how many people were here and I guess I can promote him at this point, but.

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Daff: yeah just do that minus one yeah.

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jim murez: So is it guess it's a lot easier than a board when it's like minus three or four and we have all the police people there and everybody's minus.

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Ivan: Okay i'm in Thank you.

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yeah.

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jim murez: we're still short one.

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jim murez: To be able to start the meeting.

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alley bean: Jason called me last week, asking about when the meeting was Jim like that's why I asked you at the farmers market but I assume he logged in the look, but no, no.

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jim murez: yeah it's posted on the website, Melissa is here, so we can start now.

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jim murez: soon as you get up Jason is too.

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jim murez: Though as soon as there are moved over there, goes Melissa and Jason great.

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jim murez: depth to are you able to co host.

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Daff: You know I am probably not at the moment, but if you give me about 20 minutes I can.

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Daff: understand the awkward spot and I.

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jim murez: apologize for that, but let let me know when you are all right let's call this meeting to order.

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Time now it's 611.

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jim murez: and

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jim murez: James miras is here daffodil.

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jim murez: You here.

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Daff: i'm here definitely here.

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jim murez: Thank you, Melissa.

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jim murez: Jay.

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jim murez: Jay.

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jim murez: yep okay NICO.

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jim murez: Jason.

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jim murez: Here great welcome Ali.

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jim murez: Here and Mike bravo.

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jim murez: So, moving right along.

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jim murez: Let me just timestamp that real quick.

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jim murez: i'm.

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jim murez: Declaration and ex parte communications conflict of interest, I got a well I guess it's not about this agenda but it's about the Boards agenda but I got a text message from frank Murphy, that the.

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jim murez: homelessness motion was not passed, it was put off it was postponed so we'll be taking that off the agenda, other than that I have a reach out to the city attorney and they have not yet responded, we lost our city attorney.

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jim murez: Is what I was told and.

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jim murez: And we don't have a new one, yet, but I did try to contact them and i'm waiting on an answer about the possible conflict, not a conflict, the recusal issue that I may have to do, but they don't get back to me i'm not going to worry about it anybody else.

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Daff: Jim this is daffodil I have the same issues with respect to possible recusal and I think this goes to the bridge housing.

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motion.

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Daff: Right, the issue is that in the past, the city attorney has told us that we do not need to recuse because it's a matter of public interest.

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Daff: But since we lost our city attorney we now don't have updated guidance and I think there's a bunch of us that live near bridge housing and would like to at least you know know what their position is.

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Daff: Other than that, I haven't had any conversations with anyone on these motions, except to help them get them on the agenda and do the ministerial tasks for outcome.

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jim murez: yeah, thank you for about that.

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jim murez: And and and i'm glad you fill in some of the extra details about the recusal but it's very unclear because it's always been allowed in the past medic I was on the board when the the bridge project was was.

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jim murez: heard last time, and we did not have to recuse ourselves, but maybe, things have changed.

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jim murez: Somebody thought, maybe, something has changed so we're looking into it anybody else.

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jim murez: hearing nothing else i'm ex parte communications is closed announcements and public comment of items, not on the agenda, this would be from the from the general public, I see some hands going up.

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jim murez: will give everybody a chance to raise their hands, they want to look.

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Daff: If you wouldn't mind navigating this for.

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Daff: The next say 1520 minutes i'll take over.

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jim murez: yeah sure no you let me know you let me know when you're ready to help.

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jim murez: And i'd be happy to help and in the meantime i'll just deal with it all.

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Daff: All right, thank you, Jim.

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jim murez: Let me get my clock up.

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jim murez: And let me.

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jim murez: Hello man let's see here Helen fallon allowed to talk go ahead.

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Helen Fallon: Yes, under your agenda for the Ad calm under old business, you have emotion you postpone last month that was you were going to get a ruling from done about the.

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Helen Fallon: Social justice committee and when a committee starts etc i'm assuming that you heard back from them, since you're proposing committee starts on the board a person, and you have hot committee so that should be on the agenda for tomorrow.

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Helen Fallon: And tomorrow.

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jim murez: Thank you i'm.

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jim murez: cj go ahead.

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CJ Cole: Okay, just a question and I hate to say it i'm on the rules and selections committee and should know the answer, but I know there is a.

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CJ Cole: role as to how many meetings you can miss if you're a board member are there other things like the add COM Committee, you know how many meetings you can miss before you're going to get replaced by somebody else who shows up for the meeting i'm Okay, I just wanted to know, thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you um.

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jim murez: it's really a question for Ivan maybe he can look it up, while we're moving on here, if you could lower your hand would be appreciated.

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Ivan: That are.

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jim murez: Driving you to Ivan you don't need you don't need to respond right now.

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jim murez: Just look at Okay, thank you.

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jim murez: Lisa redmond go ahead, please.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: yeah I am also commenting that missing from the old business agenda would be the motions that you postponed last month.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: On the social justice Committee and the veto of the chairs based on chucking when with done and the city attorney So yes, we've lost the city attorney, but what is done have to say about it.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: i'm even wondering was done even contacted because I don't know how much is not getting done because you couldn't even manage to put out a notice for a treasurer in the past month, so please.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Do your business the way you're supposed to be doing it it's not that hard, thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you um.

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jim murez: Elizabeth right go ahead, please.

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Elizabeth Wright: Hello i'm.

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Elizabeth Wright: Just a reminder that the bylaws and the standing rules are not suggestions that they do find a way that.

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Elizabeth Wright: The parameters for the board to operate and part of the Standing rules and bylaws say that the Secretary will take the Minutes for an outcome and for Board of officers.

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Elizabeth Wright: and also the Secretary will review the motions before they are put on the outcome agenda, I don't see any of that happening so, if you please, address that Thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you Elizabeth and I think that concludes public comment or no additional hands up.

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jim murez: So let's go back to our agenda.

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jim murez: going to close public comment.

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jim murez: I will respond to the one question about why the veto item was not on the agenda tonight.

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jim murez: This city attorney is the one that has to respond to that done has made their understanding of it, but it was a verbal understanding and they weren't comfortable sending a written understanding their understanding is that.

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jim murez: The meeting doesn't start the excuse me, the committee doesn't start until there is a chair appointed and and because you can't have a committee without a chair and you can't have.

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jim murez: Anybody missing something until they are part of something, but the city attorney is the one that ultimately has to rule on that, and because we don't have a city attorney.

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jim murez: It is making any rulings at this point, we have no answer so it's been put off until we hear back from them.

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jim murez: i'm moving along.

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jim murez: Who is john Brown.

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Take that I don't know who john Brown is.

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jim murez: Sorry, everybody my phone sometimes rings randomly.

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jim murez: Approval of outstanding.

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jim murez: administrative committee meeting Minutes do I have emotion.

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Jason Sugars: emotion Jason sugars.

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jim murez: Thank you Jason.

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jim murez: do have a second.

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Daff: This is daffodil I will second.

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jim murez: Thank you def and, though I don't believe there's any public comment on this let's just go ahead and take a vote, although I don't believe we have to how we did you dropped out of the meeting hold on a second, let me promote you again.

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jim murez: To the work.

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Alley Bean: i'm back.

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jim murez: Okay, good.

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Alley Bean: I did drop out sorry I lost my phone power.

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Alley Bean: Okay i'm home now.

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jim murez: So i'm Dr alright so um Approval of the Minutes it's I think it's just everybody anybody abstaining or voting, though.

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jim murez: So it's unanimous yes.

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jim murez: moving along, so now we need a motion to consider the draft.

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jay handal: and moving.

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jim murez: Forward agenda, thank you Jay.

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Alley Bean: i'll second it.

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jim murez: Thank you ellie.

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jim murez: and

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jim murez: Now we need to.

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jim murez: move over to.

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jim murez: The agenda.

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jim murez: me open it up.

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jim murez: Okay um.

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jim murez: So let me just check off who's here, so we can vote on these things correctly.

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jim murez: To NICO show up no not yet jason's here.

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jim murez: ellie's here mike's not here yet either okay good.

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jim murez: So we're on let's see items 1234 declaration blah blah blah public safety government reports, and then we have a presentation by on la county safe water.

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jim murez: woman from heal the Bay is not 100% sure she's going to be able to make it, but I left it on the agenda if she doesn't make it a little just speed up our meeting a bit, and then we have a committee chair reports.

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jim murez: ad hoc committee reports Presidents report approval of prior board minutes announcements of public comment and then we're down to 12 So can I get a motion from somebody to approve.

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Melissa Diner: Through item.

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jim murez: To item 11 no.

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Melissa Diner: Public comment item 11.

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jim murez: yeah okay.

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jim murez: Jim just make a note here yeah one through 11.

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jim murez: Was the diner.

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jim murez: Is anybody going to second that.

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Alley Bean: I did allie.

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jim murez: allie mean Thank you do we hear any.

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jim murez: Ivan go ahead yeah right.

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Ivan: So I talked to that little adapter but it didn't get on the agenda, the were required at the end of one year to have renewals of all the ad hoc committee because they all terminated after a year.

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Ivan: Okay, I would be.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: fired up.

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Ivan: Coming yeah the year crop so i'm going to suggest instead of the committee record.

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Ivan: Excuse Ivan.

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jim murez: Ivan let me, let me interrupt you, for a second we were seated in July right.

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Ivan: yeah.

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jim murez: And I don't believe we created any committees until August.

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Ivan: Okay well coming to go back it might you might be right.

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jim murez: Well, I don't see how we could have we didn't nobody had created a mission statement at that point.

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Ivan: Okay, well then, it has, please, please make a note this has to be on the August agenda and somebody needs to notify the committee chaired the ad hoc committee chair, that they have to come in and do this.

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jim murez: Okay well i'll work with daffodil on that i'm sure that should take care of that when she's back.

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jim murez: I just don't want to buy that yeah.

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jim murez: Well, thank you, thank you very much for pointing that out, so we have a motion and a second on the first.

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jim murez: 11 items let's go to public comment.

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jim murez: Let me just bring up the clock.

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jim murez: Lisa redmond go ahead.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Isabella Dennis is no longer the field deputy for my bonnet for Venice.

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jim murez: Do we know who it is.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: There is.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: At this time.

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jim murez: Okay, thank you.

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jim murez: Elizabeth go ahead.

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jim murez: Was it was right.

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jim murez: hands up i'm.

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Elizabeth Wright: Not muted.

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Elizabeth Wright: If you want someone to run for lpc you should be aware that the opening part of how to submit the application says, it has to be submitted prior to.

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jim murez: Oh interesting that's a typo will have to let me kill, no, thank you.

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jim murez: hey this is your hand go back up.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: No.

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jim murez: Okay well your hands still up i'll put it down.

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jim murez: All right, that will close public comment on items one through 11 do we have any name votes.

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jim murez: Any extensions.

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jim murez: So it will be just a file okay great.

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jim murez: i'm.

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jim murez: onto the treasurer's report.

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jim murez: We che did we end up getting a mirror report, or do you think we will by Tuesday.

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jay handal: i'm trying everything has been filed i'm waiting, I sent an email to shauna today asking her to please review the receipts that were attached.

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jay handal: They won't release anything until receipts are reviewed and I don't know why they're not doing the review i'm sure they're busy but i've asked them to do it, so I can get my m er so i'd leave it on.

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jay handal: Okay, and if we have to we postpone it till next month.

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jim murez: Okay um general consent items we don't have any at this point, land use.

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jim murez: chair consent items we have one project.

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jim murez: ocean avenue, the vote was a 60000 I guess six foot four zeros interesting okay.

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jim murez: And and do we have any problems without I see there's a hand up.

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jim murez: hang on one second let's see here.

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jim murez: So why don't we take items.

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jim murez: What was the last one, it was 11 wasn't it.

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Alley Bean: yeah.

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jim murez: yeah okay so so 12 through.

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jim murez: 12 through 17.

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jim murez: By have emotion, to put 12 through 17 on the boards.

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jay handal: move.

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jim murez: Who was at.

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jim murez: GA okay.

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jim murez: Do we have a second.

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Alley Bean: i'll second that Jim it's actually.

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jim murez: Now let's take public comment any hands on that I see Helens hand is up i'm.

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jim murez: Helen go ahead.

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Helen Fallon: Now i'd like to comment that even if we don't have the merge, we have a very large balance left at the end of the year, and I think that for transparency, it should be.

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Helen Fallon: explained as this seems to contradict previous information that was posted that there were 72 cents left was ordering something instead more there's like 21.

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Helen Fallon: So I think that should be dealt with, with the gene for this this coming meeting postponed for another month Thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you Helen.

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jim murez: i'm going to close public comment um any nays Could somebody quiet their dog or mute themselves.

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jim murez: ne ne boats and he abstention votes so yes.

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jim murez: let's move on.

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jim murez: 18 and 19 air air Juan is one that i'm not even though they have a 600 boat i'm not comfortable.

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jim murez: Having to put that on consent.

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jim murez: So that's why it's on his new business.

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Daff: hey Jim IT staff I just was able to rely on my computer, can you promote me as panelists.

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jim murez: yeah if I can find you.

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Hope there you are.

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jim murez: What i'll do is i'll make you a Co host I think we're getting soon as you promote getting promoted, yet I tried.

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jim murez: You try again Oh, there you go.

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jim murez: And are you there yeah okay Now let me make you co host.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah i'm here and I apologize for taking everyone's time on this.

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jim murez: Not a problem.

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jim murez: Okay, so so 18 and 19.

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jim murez: I need a motion to approve putting them on the agenda.

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Alley Bean: What you said you didn't want to make them both.

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jim murez: I don't want to make it a consent item.

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jim murez: Okay, I want us to hear it.

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jay handal: say just making these two separate things.

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jim murez: yeah it's just it's It means that under consent, we don't take any comment under new business when it's not on consent, we will take comment, we will allow the public to speak on it, and the committee to speak the board to speak on it.

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Alley Bean: i'll make that motion le.

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jim murez: Le been do have a second.

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jim murez: Is that Jay.

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jim murez: yep okay.

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jim murez: We have any public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I see no hands raised.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay anyone wanna.

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jim murez: let's just.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go hands will close public comment, yes.

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jim murez: Okay um any nays.

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jim murez: Any abstentions.

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jim murez: So we'll assume everyone, yes, yes, by Paul moving right along item 20 item 21, this is a bit questionable at this point.

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jim murez: I received, as I said earlier on a text message from frank Murphy who's chair of the committee, and he says that, although this was a agenda request that was sent through the agenda request system.

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jim murez: That they actually decided to postpone this item, I noticed that vicki was here she's still here, no she's dropped off it looks like.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um but Jim frank texted me as well during this meeting, and said that um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: That they voted unanimously to rewrite the motion, not to pass the motion and the committee is currently doing so and so he said, I hope I didn't mistakenly submit it, you know just let you know, so I feel like.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Maybe they got submitted as an agenda request.

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Daffodil Tyminski: With the wrong vote count.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And we really should be taking this off for the moment, until the committee can speak.

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Melissa Diner: Right or just leave it on until they submit the replacement motion for the board agenda, we would do that regularly unless there is no rush on this and we don't want to hear it, this month.

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jim murez: Well, it is a county file, but if the Council file has not yet started to move it was emotion that was made.

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jim murez: We don't know when city council's going to hear it, I mean they could hear it tomorrow right yeah like you know 72 hours from today, and we wouldn't know it, on the other hand, it may be two months before they decide to hear it.

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Melissa Diner: I would just leave it and then pull it if they don't get you the new verbiage, or whatever, or if it's too different than what we're seeing here.

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jim murez: hold on one second PIC he's just texted me.

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jim murez: I have my hand up but I don't see vicki's hand up I see Elizabeth right I don't even see oh vicki's back go yeah he or she is.

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jim murez: vicki i'm going to allow vicki to cope she just moved.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm gonna lie just because I allowed her to talk to him.

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jim murez: yeah okay vicki go ahead let's let's cuz she's.

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vicki halliday: Are you talking about Item number 21.

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jim murez: Yes, yes.

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vicki halliday: Fine it's Item number 28 that was tabled to be rewritten.

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jim murez: Oh so 21.

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vicki halliday: is fine.

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jim murez: Okay.

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vicki halliday: 28 is something that we have no idea how it got on this agenda, because it was tabled uncommitted to be rewritten and reworked on.

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jim murez: It okay that's.

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jim murez: Why there's no vote to.

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vicki halliday: It right there was not about.

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vicki halliday: It was table Okay, and the CIS is fine.

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jim murez: Thank you.

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jim murez: That clears up a lot.

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vicki halliday: Thank you.

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Alley Bean: Alright, so I give me just.

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Alley Bean: filled resubmitted wrong, but just check that later.

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jim murez: yeah look let's go back up Okay, so now let's get items.

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jim murez: What is 22 this is from somebody named Clark is a stakeholder Oh, this is clark's motion that.

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Alley Bean: it's the lx motion.

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jim murez: yeah Melissa did you have a chance to review, where the people from from Venice.

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jim murez: Well, this is still here.

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jim murez: Melissa could you unmute yourself.

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Melissa Diner: I did not look at the signatures.

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jim murez: Can we have a chance to do it before the board meeting, if not, can you pass them over to daffodil she offered she would do it.

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Melissa Diner: yeah i'll do it before the board me.

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jim murez: Okay, great um.

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jim murez: And this is the motion its entirety, now, is it also talking about a bunch of attachments I see.

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Jim maybe i'll just.

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Melissa Diner: Put 21 on and then because maybe people don't want to put 22 on you know I don't know now that's just a thought.

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Ivan: yeah I agree, you need to buy for kadim.

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Ivan: Okay 21 first.

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jim murez: Okay.

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jim murez: So let me entertain a motion to to put 20 and 2021 is just the category heading.

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Melissa Diner: yeah Melissa i'll make the motion.

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jim murez: Okay, so this will be 2021 md can I get a second.

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Alley Bean: i'll second alley.

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jim murez: Thank you any public comment I see there's a hand raised.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Actually, Jim I Oh yes, I do sorry I see you want me to take over general public comment.

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jim murez: yeah go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um so I see Lisa has her hand raised Lisa why don't you go ahead.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: um I certainly hope that you can figure out this recusal thing prior to the boat on Tuesday evening because otherwise the boat would have to be.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: postponed, unless you have a definitive answer from either in you know, a different city attorney from a different area of the neighborhood Council district, but that needs to be addressed before this motion is voted on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And so, that is our only public comment hand raised with that we should close public comment.

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jim murez: Okay.

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Alley Bean: raise my hand Jim, can I ask a question.

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jim murez: Yes.

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Alley Bean: I just wanted clarification on I don't know what that recusals about.

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Alley Bean: um so sorry vicki.

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Alley Bean: I don't know i'm still.

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Alley Bean: Referring to.

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jim murez: If someone lives within 500 feet of a project.

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Alley Bean: uh huh.

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jim murez: And they have a financial interest in the project you're they're supposed to recuse.

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jim murez: Actually, whether they have financial stake or not.

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Alley Bean: So someone in that involved in the motion of the breach housing thing lives within 500 feet, is that the idea.

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jim murez: or anybody anybody that lives within five it's not just the bridge housing.

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jim murez: Any project.

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jim murez: That you live within 500 feet of you have to recuse yourself because you're not allowed to participate, because you're on the body that's making the decision of what the outcome of the action should be.

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Alley Bean: And it's not what this, this is about being within 500 feet of breach housing.

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jim murez: So there's.

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jim murez: there's about a half a dozen people that are on the board.

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jim murez: that are part of the body, in other words the Board is the body.

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jim murez: yeah and a half a dozen people that live within 500 feet of it.

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jim murez: How, however, in the past, the city attorney has made the ruling, and not just on one on one particular item but on the bridge and on other public projects that have occurred.

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jim murez: That the you know, there was the the the the shelter conversion at Westminster Park, there were some street improvement things that had to take place.

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jim murez: That people lived within 500 feet of there have been several of them and the city attorney's always come back with the same thing.

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jim murez: And Somebody raised the question and all of a sudden it's like the shit hit the fan because there's a lot of people that weren't around when all of these other decisions were being made.

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jim murez: If we don't hear from the city attorney we're just going to move forward on it, because.

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jim murez: The done people said that they believe it's correct that we don't have to recuse ourselves so we're not going to get into a big cluster Fuck over this we're just going to go go forward and vote on it and be done with it.

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jim murez: And, in the meantime i've reached out I made my best attempt i've sent an email to the person that's in charge of the city attorney department for neighborhood Councils.

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jim murez: And if she doesn't respond she doesn't respond he and I believe they're very busy, and they don't have time to mess with things that they've already reported on okay so.

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jim murez: Having said all of that.

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Alley Bean: Okay, thank you, I just wanted clarification because I didn't know about any of that.

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jim murez: Okay, so.

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jim murez: So we're closed public comment on on that item.

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jim murez: And now we need to.

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jim murez: take a vote on it, let me go back um do we have any name votes do we have any abstention votes.

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jim murez: So it's a yes by all.

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Alley Bean: i'm sorry, can I just ask one more question Jim so like would recusal mean only that the people that live within 500 feet shouldn't vote on Tuesday or more more than that.

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Alley Bean: Is that does that i'm just wondering what Lisa was talking about just that they say.

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jim murez: You know what Lisa Lisa Lisa is talking about whatever she wants to Alan do you want to have a conversation with her.

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Alley Bean: offline.

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jim murez: I just meant I didn't know I i've already responded to it alley if you want to have a.

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jim murez: conversation with Lisa take it offline please, we want to continue okay.

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jim murez: i'm sorry to cut you off.

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Alley Bean: But we did I just meant is what's what is.

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Alley Bean: Which is only mean that you shouldn't vote or that we shouldn't even raise this motion.

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jim murez: Quetzal a recusal.

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jim murez: means that you're supposed to leave the room you're supposed to leave the meeting and not participate.

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Alley Bean: period that's all I want to know, thank you.

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jim murez: Number 22 clark's motion so.

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jim murez: I just want to be clear on this.

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jim murez: I believe Clark was in the audience, that there are no attachments or other documents that go along with this, because they weren't submitted.

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jim murez: As additional materials, but it says here, there are three attachments of entitlements of Sub supplemental materials and we don't have those so we can't.

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jim murez: move forward on the motion, the way that it's written that there's some gmail account and I don't have a gmail account, so I don't know what both emails are talking about attachments so.

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jim murez: Does anybody know what this is about.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So this is daffodil and sorry for interrupting but I suggest we let Clark, to speak to this, I feel like this has been kicking around for a while and.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I can't speak to what was submitted on the request system or not, but um let's uh Clark say what he has, and you know we can decide whether or not it should be done to us now.

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jim murez: Right, I am I unmuted you Clark go ahead and speak.

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Clark Brown: i've got a couple issues, first of all, during public comment I had my hand up and my computer the handfuls down I don't know if it if it stays raised or not.

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Clark Brown: I can't tell if you can tell that my hand is raised the same thing happened.

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Clark Brown: Last month that had come I don't have this problem at board meetings, because where I raise my hand yellow hand appears on my screen that stays there until I pull it down, but I can't tell at these ad calm meetings, whether, when I raise my hand you see it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Park, this is Danielle I tried to address this an email at the end of the last meeting I asked you if you have anything else you wanted to say or contribute or anything and you said no.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I call on every person's hand that is raised.

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Clark Brown: I had.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We don't is if we've closed public comment and after that we see the hand raised, and we are very, very, very generous with that.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So let's let's just let this go and move on, because I don't know what you're doing on your computer but you're the only one that has this problem, and when we asked you if you wanted to talk about anything else you said no.

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jim murez: So when I.

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jim murez: daffodil let me, let me interject also Clark if you're having a problem with zoom I suggest you contact zoom and ask them about what the problem could be.

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jim murez: We can't get into how their program works it's it's way over our pay grade so you're the only one that is experiencing the problem reach out to zoom and find out, maybe there's some.

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jim murez: Software update that you have to have that you don't have maybe there's something with the way that your system setup but there'll be able to help you very.

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Clark Brown: Rapid well I had this.

399
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jim murez: point.

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Clark Brown: You want to speak, you want to speak to motion number 22 or not.

401
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Clark Brown: Yes, I do.

402
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Clark Brown: Okay, I had my hand up continually during public comment.

403
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jim murez: To see.

404
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:40.440
jim murez: Your hand over your hand was not up on this end okay.

405
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Clark Brown: Well that's where I wanted to know, because it is up on my end all right, let me.

406
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Clark Brown: turn to.

407
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Clark Brown: Item 22 I added supporting documents to my Rule seven agenda request, and I also added them to my may 31.

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Clark Brown: email when I first submitted this, so the supporting documents I submitted both on may 31.

409
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Clark Brown: And again on July 12 and 11:40am in an email to you, Jim.

410
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Clark Brown: So supporting documents are there, if you look at the agenda at my agenda request, you will see the.

411
00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:28.530
Clark Brown: supporting documents listed there.

412
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jim murez: So this is the agenda request I pulled down from the agenda request system.

413
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jim murez: And that's where the supporting documents needed to be uploaded do you have them where you could upload them to a new agenda request tonight.

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00:52:45.060 --> 00:52:47.610
Clark Brown: I can, I can send you.

415
00:52:48.270 --> 00:52:53.490
jim murez: No, no don't don't send me anything, not by email I don't I don't want to receive it by email, I want you to.

416
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jim murez: insert your documents to the agenda request system.

417
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jim murez: So I can pull them down.

418
00:53:00.810 --> 00:53:06.960
jim murez: and put the links into the board's agenda is that clear.

419
00:53:07.230 --> 00:53:09.390
Clark Brown: I received an email from.

420
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jim murez: Ben Clark, is that clear.

421
00:53:13.530 --> 00:53:14.520
Clark Brown: I don't know how to do that.

422
00:53:15.420 --> 00:53:21.840
jim murez: Okay, you need to go to the to the vm CS website up at the top of the page it says agenda request.

423
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jim murez: Type in what the agenda request name is and down below lower on the page it says upload documents click on that and attach your documents you can put five of them in with one click or you can.

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jim murez: I don't know you can drag and drop them if you want okay.

425
00:53:43.230 --> 00:53:46.980
Clark Brown: Okay, so I go to the agenda request form then dragging the documents from there.

426
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:50.010
jim murez: That you drag the documents into the agenda request.

427
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Clark Brown: Right now.

428
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Clark Brown: That takes have a have an objection to the fact that we are just now verifying signatures I filed this on may 31.

429
00:54:00.300 --> 00:54:06.390
jim murez: K Clark we're not going to get into that Okay, if the signatures aren't there by the board meeting, we will hear it anyway.

430
00:54:06.720 --> 00:54:16.500
Melissa Diner: And also Clark like I think what you may want to take this time to do is present, why you want add calm to vote to put this on the agenda.

431
00:54:16.770 --> 00:54:26.940
Melissa Diner: Because that would be the best time to do this because there's still a chance it may not even get past add calm to get on the agenda so maybe you want to speak to that quickly well.

432
00:54:27.540 --> 00:54:35.730
Clark Brown: Article eight, section two of the bylaws does not say this has to go to add come to says it to be to be put on the agenda of the board.

433
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jim murez: Okay, thank you Clark Clark Clark you're not going to teach us how how the bylaws are written.

434
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jim murez: Add calm sets the agenda for the board if you don't like that you can take it up.

435
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jim murez: You know, with the city clerk and file agreements i'm sorry we're not going to get into how you want to interpret the bylaws, let me just mention that when you upload your document.

436
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jim murez: To the agenda request system, there is a maximum size of 15 megabytes if your files exceed that you need to figure out how to make them smaller.

437
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jim murez: Typically, the reason that you'd have a problem, like that would be, because your picture quality.

438
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jim murez: is probably three Meg or more per picture if you're taking them with a recent cell phone, so you need to reduce the quality image, the quality of the image so there's less pixel Bytes in the image okay.

439
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jim murez: But that is a limitation so be aware, and maybe that's why it hasn't come through to anybody, yet that i'm aware of, but again you'll figure it out now.

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Clark Brown: I sent several follow up emails, and this is something that could have been raised in response to my emails which wasn't done, I gave you plenty of opportunity to deal with this issue, in fact, I called you on.

441
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jim murez: Clark.

442
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and

443
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jim murez: The procedure is is very, very clear you submit your agenda request through the agenda request system it's been this way for more than five years we're not going to change all of the rules, just because you want them to be changed okay.

444
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jim murez: This is a procedure we've been doing for a very long time.

445
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jim murez: I tried to make it.

446
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jim murez: Clark we're not trying to make it difficult, if you have a problem with submitting them through the agenda request system.

447
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jim murez: Will figure out what the problem is and we'll get it straightened out i've told you what products process is, and you have a maximum file size.

448
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jim murez: Okay, and it says, right here that the materials use said that they were too large, well, I don't know what to tell you, if you're trying to upload volumes and volumes of documents.

449
00:56:47.370 --> 00:56:48.510
jim murez: The system is not going to.

450
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Melissa Diner: accept that.

451
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Melissa Diner: Clark, you can call me I can help you try and compress the pdfs or something if you really can't do it.

452
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Clark Brown: Okay, is that Melissa or is that.

453
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Melissa Diner: That was Melissa.

454
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jim murez: That was Melissa now.

455
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jim murez: Thank you for clarifying Clark, because I was concerned that everything wasn't there and that this was very complex and it needs to be available for everyone to read.

456
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jim murez: I think we now want to.

457
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Clark Brown: So if we work that out between sometime tomorrow that will be sufficient time.

458
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jim murez: yeah, we have to the Boards agenda has to be posted by Saturday.

459
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jim murez: I also would like, I would like to get it done by Friday evening at all possible.

460
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Melissa Diner: make a motion to put this on the agenda.

461
00:57:34.350 --> 00:57:36.360
jim murez: yeah so I was, I was just going to.

462
00:57:36.510 --> 00:57:41.220
jim murez: To get to that so Melissa diner making the motion can we get a second.

463
00:57:41.850 --> 00:57:43.620
Daffodil Tyminski: This is daffodil I will second it.

464
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Clark Brown: may be heard.

465
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jim murez: I was also well, thank you.

466
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jim murez: looks like.

467
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The format.

468
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Daffodil Tyminski: We do have some public comment and we.

469
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jim murez: Are Clark.

470
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Daffodil Tyminski: If you want to change something we can take the motion to him in, but we need to take some public comment on the current motion.

471
00:58:00.690 --> 00:58:01.680
Clark Brown: yeah yeah.

472
00:58:01.710 --> 00:58:06.840
jim murez: Where were you, we need to mute you now Clark because you're now going back to the category.

473
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:19.530
jim murez: Of the general public you're not going to be a panelist or you know where you need to raise your hand if you have an issue okay let's go to public comment daffodil you want to start I think lisa's the first one up.

474
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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah give me one second i'm sorry my screen totally moved around Lisa you are actually okay to talk go ahead.

475
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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: yeah, this is the first time i've ever experienced hearing a still stakeholder petition has to have signatures verified.

476
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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: So I would like to know what is the process for verifying signatures, how do you do that, because you don't have to be a registered voter, and you possibly can't know, everybody who owns lives.

477
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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: or owns property whatever in Venice, as well as on house, people are stakeholders, they don't have to have an address.

478
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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: They can just say I live on the corner of third and rose, they are valuable stakeholders that's how they were able to register to vote according to done so please inform all of us how magically you can verify stakeholders.

479
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Daffodil Tyminski: All right, thank you Liz right go ahead.

480
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Elizabeth Wright: This is an example of apparently nobody ever looked at this in the first place, you never have anything with first name only.

481
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Elizabeth Wright: In the second place, the motion and whatever the other paragraph is are switched.

482
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Elizabeth Wright: And someone should have noticed well beforehand that supplementary documentation that was referenced was not available.

483
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Elizabeth Wright: that's all.

484
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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Liz i'm Helen your hand is up.

485
01:00:05.640 --> 01:00:08.190
Daffodil Tyminski: you'll have to unmute if you want to speak but go ahead, if you want.

486
01:00:09.090 --> 01:00:19.230
Helen Fallon: Yes, um I like to thank Lisa animal and Elizabeth for their comments um you know petitions have deadlines and I don't know why this isn't being labeled a stakeholder petition.

487
01:00:19.590 --> 01:00:31.470
Helen Fallon: I really don't understand how you verify anything and considering we seem to have a double standard here the last petition back in December had first names on it no addresses so.

488
01:00:32.220 --> 01:00:42.180
Helen Fallon: And that was acceptable to you, Jim so I you know it just because you don't want to hear this stop with all the torture was no hoops that.

489
01:00:42.660 --> 01:00:51.750
Helen Fallon: For Mr Brown has to jump through it's getting ridiculous it's starting to make you guys look really odd and very obstructionist.

490
01:00:52.110 --> 01:01:07.260
Helen Fallon: Here is he presented it to your multiple times he's went out and took your advice gym and got a petition and now Melissa goes I don't even bother to look at this it's you know shame on you guys start doing your job and start doing your work and stop being rude to people.

491
01:01:10.530 --> 01:01:16.050
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much Helen um with that we will lower Helens hands.

492
01:01:17.130 --> 01:01:18.510
Daffodil Tyminski: and close public comment.

493
01:01:20.820 --> 01:01:25.620
jim murez: Thank you definitely oh okay do was any any committee comments.

494
01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:31.980
jay handal: You know I just like to move to put this thing on the agenda and get moving forward what the deal with it.

495
01:01:32.340 --> 01:01:43.530
jim murez: yeah that's what we're doing, we have emotion, we have a second weird public comment public comment was closed and and now we're just asking if the committee has any comments.

496
01:01:46.410 --> 01:01:53.010
jim murez: seen no wait, there is a hand up hands up what's the diner your hand is up go ahead.

497
01:01:55.530 --> 01:02:08.880
Melissa Diner: yeah, I just wanted to speak to the verification of the signatures i've actually never had to verify the signatures, the secretary i'm happy to do it, I do believe in the past when we've had this come up.

498
01:02:09.540 --> 01:02:13.350
Melissa Diner: it's only been done to the best of the ability and the past IRA did this.

499
01:02:13.740 --> 01:02:24.300
Melissa Diner: I think i've been may be able to speak to that more, but I think it's really just like a general scan because we can't really do much more than that, to make sure that all the signatures.

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Melissa Diner: Are from people in nine to nine one and that nothing looks severely off and that's it and that there's the total number of signatures that are required, I just wanted to say that.

501
01:02:37.530 --> 01:02:37.710
jim murez: yeah.

502
01:02:37.740 --> 01:02:47.250
jim murez: Thank you, Melissa that that did those what my understanding was also this was something that the President did you are, you said that you would be happy to do it, to help out and I agreed.

503
01:02:48.150 --> 01:03:00.510
jim murez: We just have to get it done by the board we're not looking for driver's license or the name of their firstborn child or anything like that it's just a question, do they have a Venice location.

504
01:03:02.250 --> 01:03:03.300
jim murez: And is it legible.

505
01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:10.140
jim murez: to some degree okay i'm Melissa your hands still up can we put it down.

506
01:03:12.180 --> 01:03:14.790
jim murez: Thank you let's take a vote um.

507
01:03:15.990 --> 01:03:17.460
jim murez: Any any nays.

508
01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:23.730
jim murez: Any abstentions so it's yes by all.

509
01:03:28.500 --> 01:03:30.270
jim murez: OK next one.

510
01:03:33.480 --> 01:03:43.770
jim murez: So, creation of an ambassador network at ocean front walk this was submitted by a stakeholder Nick and to cello.

511
01:03:47.940 --> 01:04:00.630
jim murez: I don't see any particular community impact statement here, so I don't think this goes directly to the board I would assume that this goes to the ocean for a walk Committee does anybody have an objection without.

512
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Daffodil Tyminski: This is daffodil Jim no but did did this come from the ocean from our committee or.

513
01:04:08.250 --> 01:04:08.790
No.

514
01:04:09.900 --> 01:04:13.320
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, then it should go to committee, first, I think we are the committee that.

515
01:04:13.860 --> 01:04:15.450
Daffodil Tyminski: yo okay.

516
01:04:17.430 --> 01:04:19.920
jay handal: hey Jim I got a question on this, if I can.

517
01:04:20.130 --> 01:04:21.330
jim murez: Go ahead yep.

518
01:04:21.930 --> 01:04:37.620
jay handal: So it says in his motion that he's doing that it would come under the auspices of the Venice bit if the Venice bid is not asking us to do this, how is it, we can want to form something for somebody else's organization.

519
01:04:39.900 --> 01:04:40.560
jim murez: We can't.

520
01:04:41.460 --> 01:04:44.700
jay handal: that's why I just don't understand why we hear this.

521
01:04:49.350 --> 01:04:52.590
jay handal: If this was a request from the Venice bit this support.

522
01:04:53.610 --> 01:04:57.600
jay handal: Having an ambassador network of volunteers, that would be one thing.

523
01:04:59.250 --> 01:05:06.840
jay handal: But this is it, this is somebody on the outside, saying let's form something and let's let the Venice bid do it.

524
01:05:08.340 --> 01:05:09.540
Melissa Diner: I agree with you, but I.

525
01:05:09.540 --> 01:05:11.400
Melissa Diner: don't sell it for.

526
01:05:11.430 --> 01:05:12.960
jim murez: walks and Melissa just.

527
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:15.300
jim murez: Melissa Jay Jay speaking hang on one SEC I.

528
01:05:15.390 --> 01:05:28.500
jay handal: I I think this doesn't belong in in the neighborhood Council until it comes from the big or another organization is willing to take it on, and so, for us, support I wouldn't waste a committee time I wouldn't waste a board time.

529
01:05:30.540 --> 01:05:32.610
jim murez: Okay that's a good point.

530
01:05:32.940 --> 01:05:36.210
jim murez: It listen Melissa you you wanted to speak go ahead.

531
01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:42.180
Melissa Diner: yeah I would just let ocean from walk can decide if they even want to hear it, you know.

532
01:05:48.210 --> 01:05:51.420
jim murez: yeah I only said ocean for a walk because it's an ocean walk.

533
01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:58.710
jim murez: suggestion, but Jay makes a good point do we really want to I mean Nick knows how to reach out to them.

534
01:06:01.500 --> 01:06:04.020
Ivan: Okay, Jim get emotion one way together.

535
01:06:04.890 --> 01:06:07.800
Alley Bean: Well, I may go race.

536
01:06:08.610 --> 01:06:18.570
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sorry yeah IT staff I I know i'm running the henry's situation here, I have my hand raised and Alice choose one la la speak and then i've got a comment on this.

537
01:06:18.780 --> 01:06:19.650
jim murez: Okay, go ahead Alice.

538
01:06:19.890 --> 01:06:30.510
Alley Bean: I just wanted to agree with Melissa I thought you know, I think it should go to the ocean more committee and let them because they they deal with bed, and they can talk about it, because you know it's worth hearing.

539
01:06:31.110 --> 01:06:32.370
Melissa Diner: And Jim typically if.

540
01:06:32.490 --> 01:06:35.790
Melissa Diner: you're good enough forward something you can do that as President.

541
01:06:36.180 --> 01:06:39.270
Melissa Diner: Like laterally we don't need a motion on it okay.

542
01:06:39.330 --> 01:06:41.850
jim murez: Thank you, Melissa daffodil.

543
01:06:42.060 --> 01:06:53.040
Daffodil Tyminski: You wanted to say something about along the same lines, I mean well I don't want to waste the committee's time Nick is on the ocean from our committee or, at least, is very close to the folks on that committee.

544
01:06:53.580 --> 01:07:01.890
Daffodil Tyminski: And I feel like they can decide whether or not to agenda is it we just need to refer this to them, they decide whether or not they want to hear it.

545
01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:02.910
jim murez: Right.

546
01:07:03.210 --> 01:07:12.090
Daffodil Tyminski: Right don't here we've got a mechanism for it to come back to us um as tonight, has demonstrated so you know, be that as it may, but.

547
01:07:13.080 --> 01:07:26.580
Daffodil Tyminski: it's obviously not right for it being agenda is on the Ad COM agenda, and I would you know, Nick knows what to do, he's not a stranger to this process and he's not a stranger to that committee.

548
01:07:27.570 --> 01:07:33.750
jim murez: yeah all right so i'm just gonna go ahead and forward it to the ocean from excuse me to the ocean proximity let's move on.

549
01:07:35.580 --> 01:07:40.770
jim murez: A point second zoom administrator this was submitted by Jay.

550
01:07:43.140 --> 01:07:50.220
jim murez: This did not go through committee, but I believe that this was part of the administrative packet Is that correct che.

551
01:07:53.340 --> 01:07:54.780
jay handal: yeah and we're you know.

552
01:07:56.880 --> 01:08:06.900
jay handal: Helen made a good point, the other day, and I just want to say that I still think we should appoint somebody, even though the city hasn't figured out what they're doing yet.

553
01:08:07.500 --> 01:08:15.360
jay handal: So that kind of like when they spring a 72 hour notice on us and say you can do something at least if we will appoint somebody.

554
01:08:15.930 --> 01:08:23.160
jay handal: Then, when the city finally figures out, you know how to make it work with the second and third and fourth rule, how many.

555
01:08:23.550 --> 01:08:38.100
jay handal: licenses they have we have somebody in place ready to take on that job I don't know how many people are going to raise their hand going, I want to be the second guy you know, so I just think it makes sense for us to go ahead and do it.

556
01:08:38.970 --> 01:08:39.420
yeah.

557
01:08:41.010 --> 01:08:54.600
jim murez: And I guess the question then becomes is is this just something that the President appoints numbers this a board needs to actually take nominations and go through a whole voting process, it seems like it's just a an administrative thing.

558
01:08:55.230 --> 01:08:56.040
Minister.

559
01:08:59.430 --> 01:09:00.150
jim murez: I agree.

560
01:09:04.890 --> 01:09:05.400
jim murez: um.

561
01:09:07.650 --> 01:09:15.690
jim murez: So I don't really think that this needs to be on the agenda, I think we can just appoint somebody and and it doesn't need to be something that that that.

562
01:09:17.220 --> 01:09:18.630
jim murez: necessarily has to be.

563
01:09:21.660 --> 01:09:29.940
Melissa Diner: yeah just do that just take it off and appoint someone or unless you want you guys think differently, as long as you can appoint someone right now, can you.

564
01:09:32.340 --> 01:09:33.030
Melissa Diner: For the record.

565
01:09:33.090 --> 01:09:44.490
jim murez: You know what my feeling is is, this is a communications officer officers task and and vicki has agreed, she would do it, so I would just appoint vicki and be done with it.

566
01:09:45.210 --> 01:09:47.100
Melissa Diner: just note that here yeah.

567
01:09:50.370 --> 01:09:58.740
jim murez: But I don't know that we need a motion to do it and we need to take a board time with it does support really need to to to participate in that decision making process.

568
01:09:59.070 --> 01:09:59.970
Melissa Diner: I don't think you.

569
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.120
jay handal: know, again based on your processes yeah.

570
01:10:03.150 --> 01:10:03.510
Now.

571
01:10:04.590 --> 01:10:06.210
jim murez: Okay, so let's let's just.

572
01:10:12.120 --> 01:10:15.570
Ivan: Okay, you should announce it during President we pour I.

573
01:10:15.570 --> 01:10:17.100
Ivan: Will okay.

574
01:10:26.160 --> 01:10:26.610
jim murez: Okay.

575
01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:35.430
jim murez: Budget approval, so this was.

576
01:10:45.750 --> 01:10:50.910
jim murez: This was submitted by all of her, but I think it was actually something that went through committee.

577
01:10:51.450 --> 01:10:53.280
jay handal: it's went through Budget Committee.

578
01:10:53.430 --> 01:10:58.800
jim murez: yeah I thought so but I didn't get a vote on this one or the next one, so but.

579
01:10:58.830 --> 01:11:10.200
jay handal: Budget Committee itself did vote with one day and the rest were yes to approve it and move it forward, I believe you guys was sending it to.

580
01:11:12.060 --> 01:11:14.730
jay handal: You know Rules Committee as well.

581
01:11:16.170 --> 01:11:19.230
CJ Cole: If you can hear me, I think we get here and then rules.

582
01:11:19.710 --> 01:11:22.920
jay handal: Okay, well then it should go straight to the board, then.

583
01:11:23.610 --> 01:11:24.030
Thank you.

584
01:11:28.410 --> 01:11:33.360
jim murez: So can we put 25 and 26.

585
01:11:35.580 --> 01:11:36.660
jay handal: On the low.

586
01:11:37.800 --> 01:11:43.980
jim murez: So can I get a motion to put 25 and 26.

587
01:11:45.750 --> 01:11:46.800
jim murez: On the agenda.

588
01:11:47.460 --> 01:11:48.000
jay handal: i'm moving.

589
01:11:48.420 --> 01:11:50.160
jim murez: Thank you Jay can I get a second.

590
01:11:51.330 --> 01:11:52.440
Alley Bean: i'll second that alley.

591
01:11:53.940 --> 01:11:55.740
jim murez: Thank you let's take public comment.

592
01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:01.290
jim murez: cj your hand was up already is it's still up.

593
01:12:04.020 --> 01:12:05.760
jim murez: To do you want to handle public comment.

594
01:12:06.510 --> 01:12:09.450
Daffodil Tyminski: Sure, but I see no hands actually i'm.

595
01:12:11.220 --> 01:12:11.610
Daffodil Tyminski: up with.

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01:12:11.910 --> 01:12:12.930
jim murez: Zoe Zoe.

597
01:12:13.140 --> 01:12:19.290
Daffodil Tyminski: Zoe Zoe Helen yeah okay all right always the Holland hold on we go ahead Helen.

598
01:12:19.770 --> 01:12:34.920
Helen Fallon: No, I just suggest that you clean up the, this is not all of her flies personal notion that it needs to put in, but it came from rules and selection, with the vote was and maybe have a chat with him about submitting properly Jim.

599
01:12:40.590 --> 01:12:43.590
Daffodil Tyminski: Helen you sort of cut out there, a little bit I didn't quite hear what you said.

600
01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:46.350
jim murez: yeah she was reprimanding me for not speak.

601
01:12:47.250 --> 01:12:47.790
Helen Fallon: Obviously.

602
01:12:47.820 --> 01:12:48.510
jim murez: Take care of the.

603
01:12:49.440 --> 01:12:50.460
Helen Fallon: agenda items.

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01:12:52.920 --> 01:12:53.670
Helen Fallon: That fall.

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01:12:54.150 --> 01:12:55.740
jim murez: yeah i'll take care of it, thank you.

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01:12:57.180 --> 01:13:00.120
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Helen Liz right go ahead.

607
01:13:01.440 --> 01:13:07.740
Elizabeth Wright: In the Minutes, or rather on the board agenda, please make sure that it says it was passed by the.

608
01:13:08.790 --> 01:13:12.630
Elizabeth Wright: Rules and selections committee 600 both of them work.

609
01:13:13.860 --> 01:13:15.390
jim murez: So did you check the boats.

610
01:13:16.110 --> 01:13:17.880
Elizabeth Wright: Yes, I just looked at the Minutes.

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01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:20.340
jim murez: Thank you very much i'll do that right now.

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01:13:24.210 --> 01:13:27.990
Daffodil Tyminski: And with that Jim we should close public comment thanks everybody.

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01:13:52.890 --> 01:13:54.690
jim murez: Let me just make this look right.

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01:14:37.650 --> 01:14:38.010
jim murez: Great.

615
01:14:39.870 --> 01:14:46.410
jim murez: ne ne boats any committee comment ne ne boats any abstentions.

616
01:14:48.480 --> 01:14:52.470
jim murez: Yes, by all okay moving right along.

617
01:14:53.910 --> 01:14:58.710
jim murez: The Venice now this, this is an interesting one.

618
01:15:03.030 --> 01:15:08.460
jim murez: This is actually been heard previously by Lou Pack.

619
01:15:09.840 --> 01:15:11.010
jim murez: and

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01:15:12.360 --> 01:15:26.880
jim murez: This person would like to make a presentation and I know that I went to a public meeting that the Department of sanitation held at the site last month.

621
01:15:27.660 --> 01:15:49.170
jim murez: And there were probably 40 or 50 people from the Community they're all looking at presentation boards and the city said they were going to go back and revise or look at revising their design based on all the Community input I don't believe this person Jim Kennedy.

622
01:15:49.590 --> 01:15:51.330
jim murez: Who i've known for a long time he.

623
01:15:51.330 --> 01:15:53.100
jim murez: actually used to work in ruth's office.

624
01:15:55.980 --> 01:15:58.320
jim murez: is part of that I don't know that he's.

625
01:15:59.970 --> 01:16:05.040
jim murez: So we don't have any other information on this we don't know who he's representing other than himself.

626
01:16:09.090 --> 01:16:10.050
jim murez: What do we want to do with it.

627
01:16:11.430 --> 01:16:13.350
Daffodil Tyminski: And this is daffodil so.

628
01:16:15.240 --> 01:16:27.000
Daffodil Tyminski: I think I mean this has been kicking around for a while right, as we know, about a year, plus ago there were a couple of Lou peck agenda requests for.

629
01:16:28.650 --> 01:16:30.540
Daffodil Tyminski: For us to hear this project.

630
01:16:32.310 --> 01:16:32.820
Daffodil Tyminski: Right.

631
01:16:33.210 --> 01:16:35.850
jim murez: yeah well they don't have a final design at this point.

632
01:16:36.750 --> 01:16:45.750
Daffodil Tyminski: Right, I sent though a request by a Community Member who is concerned about what's going on but doesn't know what's going on.

633
01:16:46.740 --> 01:16:58.980
Daffodil Tyminski: Right, which we all can empathize with because often that happens right the cities now should we maybe put it on the agenda and then reach out to him to see what's this you know or what's going on.

634
01:16:59.880 --> 01:17:02.550
Daffodil Tyminski: Well, or do we know there's any urgency to this.

635
01:17:02.700 --> 01:17:11.310
jim murez: Well, I don't think there's any urgency, but I guess I could reach out to him, but if it's a presentation, then we wouldn't be taking public comment, it would be much higher on the agenda.

636
01:17:11.730 --> 01:17:20.430
jim murez: up where the other presentation was being made if we're going to hear it as a motion we don't know what the motion would be like whether or not they're asking us to approve it or not.

637
01:17:20.670 --> 01:17:27.660
jim murez: And if they were asking us to approve it, because we previously heard it hang on one second I gotta close my door right you guys.

638
01:17:29.730 --> 01:17:30.180
jim murez: um.

639
01:17:31.770 --> 01:17:44.730
jim murez: Because we heard it previously in lieu pack um I would say, we would need to re hear it and loop back because they were the ones that that previously heard it and have an existing project for it.

640
01:17:45.240 --> 01:17:49.260
Melissa Diner: But that's a plea we don't let stakeholders do presentations.

641
01:17:49.740 --> 01:17:57.360
Melissa Diner: Unless we've seen the presentation before and know it's like a non biased presentation I don't know that much about this project.

642
01:17:57.630 --> 01:18:04.500
Melissa Diner: Because if it did have a bias and typically we would invite someone who had the opposing view to also present it.

643
01:18:04.830 --> 01:18:15.690
Melissa Diner: And if they didn't want to, or we can find someone, then I don't remember what we've done in that scenario actually maybe Ivan can speak to that, but I think you would want to see the presentation first.

644
01:18:15.900 --> 01:18:20.490
jim murez: yeah but you see see the first sentence, it says a Community briefing by.

645
01:18:20.790 --> 01:18:22.650
jim murez: la city bureau of sanitation.

646
01:18:23.010 --> 01:18:31.890
Daffodil Tyminski: This is a situation where the city decided to take its own property which I believe is on the Korean Peninsula.

647
01:18:32.010 --> 01:18:40.860
jim murez: No actually it's not their property they're planning on purchasing a property that is owned by the folks who own the whaler.

648
01:18:41.670 --> 01:18:42.300
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

649
01:18:42.390 --> 01:18:44.340
jim murez: To create a parking lot.

650
01:18:45.030 --> 01:18:47.460
Daffodil Tyminski: Right, that will be a pumping station.

651
01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:50.100
jim murez: know the pumping station is on another parcel.

652
01:18:52.110 --> 01:18:55.710
Melissa Diner: i'll make a motion to put this on them that's fine if it's a city presentation.

653
01:18:56.250 --> 01:18:57.390
jim murez: But we don't know that it is.

654
01:18:57.420 --> 01:18:58.170
Daffodil Tyminski: Not it.

655
01:18:58.470 --> 01:19:12.120
Daffodil Tyminski: it's so what happened is the city made this whole proposal and didn't really tell anybody the neighbors got wind of it and they they've been trying to hold the city accountable, which, of course, you know we all appreciate.

656
01:19:14.040 --> 01:19:20.250
Daffodil Tyminski: And so I sense that this is the stakeholder trying to brief back.

657
01:19:21.270 --> 01:19:30.420
Daffodil Tyminski: You know, maybe a counterpoint to what the city's been telling us, which by the way, has been nothing, as far as I know we haven't heard anything in this, since it came up about a year ago and loop back.

658
01:19:30.510 --> 01:19:36.330
Melissa Diner: Right, you know, so we need out to someone to do a presentation on that that's what they're requesting.

659
01:19:36.420 --> 01:19:42.480
Daffodil Tyminski: Well, I actually think the stakeholder is requesting to do a presentation, because the city has basically just.

660
01:19:42.480 --> 01:19:47.460
Daffodil Tyminski: been barreling this through without like responding the stakeholders that's my impression.

661
01:19:48.540 --> 01:19:51.420
jim murez: yeah so there, there was a Community meeting.

662
01:19:51.750 --> 01:19:56.490
jim murez: And they showed their old place so so the the Community hired a couple of lawyers.

663
01:19:56.940 --> 01:20:06.120
jim murez: And this thing has gotten quite escalated because it's the way that the city designed, it was going to be extremely I mean I don't know why we're talking about the.

664
01:20:06.660 --> 01:20:17.670
jim murez: At this point, I would say we should just postpone this to August, as far as we know, there's no urgency whatsoever, I will reach out to Jim Kennedy to find out, is he with.

665
01:20:17.940 --> 01:20:28.080
jim murez: The Bureau of sanitation, do they have a presentation and if they do, do we want to do it, where the Community also has a presentation that they want to make like.

666
01:20:28.470 --> 01:20:33.330
Melissa Diner: The city, it sounds like it's the Community, and we also need someone from the city to present.

667
01:20:33.900 --> 01:20:46.020
jim murez: Well, so i'm not sure if Jim Kennedy because he used to work in the Council office i'm not sure if he's now with the Department of sanitation, he was not at the meeting that they held.

668
01:20:46.110 --> 01:20:47.430
Melissa Diner: On both sides.

669
01:20:47.490 --> 01:20:48.750
Melissa Diner: Regardless we're on the same.

670
01:20:50.070 --> 01:20:59.550
jim murez: Okay, so we're just going to push this off and that's going to be the end of that and I will reach out to them and and i'll just make a note here.

671
01:21:00.360 --> 01:21:04.950
Daffodil Tyminski: um it's staff, can I just note that we have two hands raised for public comment.

672
01:21:05.220 --> 01:21:10.530
Daffodil Tyminski: Sure, and I can't tell what's this, so the previous one, but we should at least a public comment if we need to backtrack we can.

673
01:21:12.930 --> 01:21:14.400
Ivan: Talk about your emotion.

674
01:21:15.360 --> 01:21:18.180
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah i'm just because I have a motion getting.

675
01:21:18.390 --> 01:21:19.530
Ivan: your hands, right here, public.

676
01:21:19.530 --> 01:21:25.590
Ivan: comment was out of motion, so I could get someone make a motion to postpone and then you do.

677
01:21:26.730 --> 01:21:27.810
Daffodil Tyminski: let's make a motion.

678
01:21:28.230 --> 01:21:30.180
Daffodil Tyminski: phone Item number 27.

679
01:21:30.510 --> 01:21:31.440
Melissa Diner: Rarely do we not get.

680
01:21:31.530 --> 01:21:35.010
jim murez: Motion we're just going to postpone it i'm not going to put it on the agenda that sad.

681
01:21:35.700 --> 01:21:42.840
Daffodil Tyminski: Now what i've been saying, though, is procedurally take public comment, we need a vehicle to accept public comment, which is typically emotion.

682
01:21:46.320 --> 01:21:48.300
jim murez: Okay daffodils making emotion.

683
01:21:48.660 --> 01:21:49.200
Melissa Diner: i'll second.

684
01:21:49.950 --> 01:21:52.080
jim murez: Melissa diner second postpone.

685
01:21:58.230 --> 01:22:04.860
Daffodil Tyminski: So Elizabeth and Lisa you both raise your hands, if you do not intend to make public comment lower your hands but Liz why don't we start with you.

686
01:22:07.440 --> 01:22:20.010
Elizabeth Wright: Apparently didn't each to be a change to the agenda request for people who request or requesting to do a presentation, or to get a presentation on something and don't intend to have a motion on it.

687
01:22:21.270 --> 01:22:27.240
Elizabeth Wright: But it appears to me that's what it is, since there's no motion, there is no request involved in here at all.

688
01:22:29.250 --> 01:22:29.670
Elizabeth Wright: that's all.

689
01:22:31.230 --> 01:22:33.630
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Liz Lisa go ahead.

690
01:22:39.180 --> 01:22:42.180
Daffodil Tyminski: I feel, like everyone i've been New Jersey long enough from like ahead go ahead.

691
01:22:46.050 --> 01:22:47.580
Daffodil Tyminski: Your Jersey accent is coming out.

692
01:22:51.420 --> 01:22:52.650
jim murez: As Lisa read me going to speak.

693
01:22:59.730 --> 01:23:02.430
Daffodil Tyminski: I don't know all right, I am Lisa.

694
01:23:06.540 --> 01:23:10.710
jim murez: Lisa read me this up, did you want to speak last chance.

695
01:23:14.310 --> 01:23:15.450
Okay let's close it.

696
01:23:16.710 --> 01:23:19.230
Daffodil Tyminski: down and there'll be a time at the end to where folks can give.

697
01:23:19.230 --> 01:23:21.900
jim murez: comment I lowered her hand i'm.

698
01:23:24.510 --> 01:23:27.180
jim murez: Sally has her hand up alley go ahead, do you have a question.

699
01:23:27.390 --> 01:23:36.690
Alley Bean: yeah I did only because I don't know anything about this is the first time I read it on the agenda today and I don't know who TIM Kennedy is that what That was my first question and you, you said he works.

700
01:23:37.110 --> 01:23:47.100
Alley Bean: For the city, so I just thought, maybe you before Tuesday if we could just call him and find out, make sure that this isn't have any urgent interest, I mean.

701
01:23:47.940 --> 01:24:03.570
Alley Bean: When I read it, I thought wow I didn't know anything about any of this I didn't know that 40 people were opposed to it i'd love to know more about it, so if it is anything Jim that you find out I just say let's you know, maybe keep it open if it's something that you find is can see.

702
01:24:03.900 --> 01:24:08.100
jim murez: Ali, can you can you see on the screen the part that I just highlighted in blue.

703
01:24:09.120 --> 01:24:10.680
Alley Bean: la city org about.

704
01:24:10.890 --> 01:24:21.360
jim murez: Division So if you highlight that yourself matter of fact, what i'll do is I will copy that I will put this into the Minutes so it will become a live link how's that sound.

705
01:24:21.750 --> 01:24:25.950
Alley Bean: Oh, you mean that we just highlighted what was that he was from the city.

706
01:24:26.430 --> 01:24:28.110
jim murez: yeah i'll just call it a link.

707
01:24:28.410 --> 01:24:29.040
jim murez: i'll put it in.

708
01:24:29.070 --> 01:24:34.800
jim murez: Here, and when the Minutes get posted it'll show up as a hyperlink and you can look at it for yourself okay.

709
01:24:35.280 --> 01:24:36.630
Alley Bean: No, but what i'm saying is.

710
01:24:37.680 --> 01:24:39.210
jim murez: i'm gonna reach out to him, like.

711
01:24:40.140 --> 01:24:42.660
Alley Bean: And if it is anything of any urgency.

712
01:24:42.780 --> 01:24:49.920
Alley Bean: Only because it says, you know stuff about you know, water and canals and all that i'm interested if it is an emergency.

713
01:24:50.400 --> 01:25:03.000
Alley Bean: Then, maybe you do want to hear him on Tuesday, but I have no idea what it is, so I just saying before we say don't hear it, maybe just hear what he has said that because he doesn't make emotion So what does he want to say that's all.

714
01:25:04.080 --> 01:25:04.680
jim murez: Thank you ellie.

715
01:25:07.830 --> 01:25:15.390
jim murez: You know Lisa redmond put her hand back up I don't know if she's there and having difficulties, but in all fairness let's give her an opportunity to speak to adult.

716
01:25:17.910 --> 01:25:20.340
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: You have to unmute me if you want me to talk.

717
01:25:21.690 --> 01:25:23.910
Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa you are unmuted we asked, I.

718
01:25:23.910 --> 01:25:24.180
Daffodil Tyminski: Was.

719
01:25:24.570 --> 01:25:25.620
Daffodil Tyminski: All it was time.

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01:25:25.710 --> 01:25:30.600
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: To talk before, but this time I was not so thank you for on muting me.

721
01:25:31.230 --> 01:25:50.880
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I was going to point out what Liz right did is that with the agenda item wanting to make a public presentation, points out to all the problems that exist within that agenda request form in less it's very difficult to navigate even for someone like me who's used it more than once.

722
01:25:52.290 --> 01:25:57.900
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: it's there's no way to tell that your documents have been uploaded there's no way to tell that even.

723
01:25:58.380 --> 01:26:07.410
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: The request even went through because there's no bounce back email that things were received there's not good designation to really tell if you want to be a presentation or not.

724
01:26:08.100 --> 01:26:22.020
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: The whole thing really needs to be resigned and rethought about so i'm just going to point that out that these things happen more frequently than not, and maybe that should be looked at, especially because you pay all that money to web corner, it should be taken care of.

725
01:26:25.230 --> 01:26:28.890
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so with that we can close public comments.

726
01:26:30.090 --> 01:26:31.710
jim murez: A second time on this one okay.

727
01:26:32.880 --> 01:26:37.530
jim murez: So we had a motion was made by daffodil seconded by Melissa to postpone.

728
01:26:38.670 --> 01:26:43.950
jim murez: Any knows any abstentions everyone else will be a yes.

729
01:26:48.120 --> 01:26:51.450
jim murez: Moving right along the secure lockers was already.

730
01:26:53.040 --> 01:26:54.210
jim murez: put off.

731
01:26:56.070 --> 01:27:00.600
jim murez: i'm not sure that was an interesting title.

732
01:27:03.930 --> 01:27:04.980
jim murez: What this is.

733
01:27:06.600 --> 01:27:12.150
jim murez: Anybody want to take a guess I don't see how we can put this on the agenda, I mean I don't even know what it is.

734
01:27:17.370 --> 01:27:20.970
Daffodil Tyminski: This is to have it all, I do think Someone needs to reach out and see.

735
01:27:24.090 --> 01:27:27.330
Daffodil Tyminski: This is the second time we've had this request to right.

736
01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:30.060
jim murez: I don't know I don't remember ever seeing it before.

737
01:27:31.230 --> 01:27:37.500
Daffodil Tyminski: Well there's no, we do have some public comment there's no motion pending I don't know that anyone's inclined to put it on the agenda.

738
01:27:38.070 --> 01:27:39.840
Melissa Diner: But I just prefer it's a homeless.

739
01:27:40.290 --> 01:27:41.340
Daffodil Tyminski: We have a mo.

740
01:27:41.460 --> 01:27:44.250
Daffodil Tyminski: mo do even have a motion to address this.

741
01:27:45.120 --> 01:27:51.360
jim murez: No, we don't we don't have anything but we want to make emotion, we can make emotion make emotion daffodil.

742
01:27:53.580 --> 01:27:56.520
Daffodil Tyminski: ocean, yes, I do not want to make emotion.

743
01:27:56.670 --> 01:27:57.330
jim murez: yeah I think.

744
01:27:57.900 --> 01:27:59.040
Melissa Diner: it's a homeless, Jim.

745
01:27:59.100 --> 01:27:59.520
jim murez: i'm just.

746
01:27:59.700 --> 01:27:59.910
Like.

747
01:28:01.020 --> 01:28:01.410
Melissa Diner: yeah.

748
01:28:02.100 --> 01:28:03.480
jim murez: This is definitely a.

749
01:28:07.200 --> 01:28:10.440
Daffodil Tyminski: Well, does love Jim let's go through the process of.

750
01:28:10.470 --> 01:28:14.250
jim murez: Does anyone have a moto, let me just let me just refer to the homeless committee.

751
01:28:20.850 --> 01:28:21.900
jim murez: Okay let's move on.

752
01:28:27.180 --> 01:28:28.560
jim murez: Oh well, that was the last thing.

753
01:28:29.940 --> 01:28:31.560
jim murez: Okay, so.

754
01:28:33.450 --> 01:28:34.200
jim murez: um.

755
01:28:36.840 --> 01:28:38.700
jim murez: Let me save this away.

756
01:28:42.240 --> 01:28:44.640
jim murez: And now let's go back to.

757
01:28:46.140 --> 01:28:51.600
Melissa Diner: One thing I would like to say, Jim maybe do you want to just do a quick scan to see if we want to do one final motion.

758
01:28:51.600 --> 01:28:55.530
Melissa Diner: hang with anything we passed on consent, because I don't think we put anything on sunset.

759
01:28:57.870 --> 01:29:00.930
jim murez: I don't think there was anything to put on consent.

760
01:29:02.430 --> 01:29:03.120
Melissa Diner: that's that's fine.

761
01:29:03.270 --> 01:29:05.040
Melissa Diner: I just noticed we didn't do that.

762
01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:07.080
jim murez: yeah no I don't think there was.

763
01:29:10.110 --> 01:29:11.880
jim murez: A mom we want the last.

764
01:29:13.320 --> 01:29:16.890
jim murez: minutes, this one here.

765
01:29:20.190 --> 01:29:22.260
jim murez: Did it load add cardboard nope.

766
01:29:23.550 --> 01:29:24.660
jim murez: That was the wrong one.

767
01:29:27.360 --> 01:29:28.410
jim murez: This is.

768
01:29:29.580 --> 01:29:30.900
jim murez: No, this one.

769
01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:34.080
jim murez: Here we go.

770
01:29:36.240 --> 01:29:38.850
jim murez: Just make sure that this is the right one.

771
01:29:40.320 --> 01:29:50.820
jim murez: He could say Mike everybody was here we folded on this okay so Jay made the motion seconded um.

772
01:29:52.440 --> 01:29:55.140
CJ Cole: I had a question, if you can still hear me.

773
01:29:56.550 --> 01:30:02.340
CJ Cole: On the agenda um you do have the right roll roll call.

774
01:30:03.330 --> 01:30:10.020
jim murez: yeah no that's that's because this is the the committee we had it will change as soon as I turned it into the actual board agenda.

775
01:30:11.310 --> 01:30:17.490
jim murez: There that's comes up every month that confuses everyone, but you know it's it's the way that we can vote on those things and keep track of them.

776
01:30:19.980 --> 01:30:27.870
jim murez: Okay, so we're ready to take a boat on this, this is the approval of the agenda that we just created for the board i'm going to vote yes.

777
01:30:31.020 --> 01:30:32.040
jim murez: daffodil, how do you vote.

778
01:30:32.820 --> 01:30:34.860
jim murez: Yes, Melissa.

779
01:30:35.400 --> 01:30:36.870
jim murez: yeah Jay.

780
01:30:37.560 --> 01:30:39.270
jim murez: Yes, Jason.

781
01:30:39.630 --> 01:30:41.760
jim murez: Yes, and alley.

782
01:30:41.970 --> 01:30:47.010
jim murez: Yes, Okay, the motion carries 600.

783
01:30:48.150 --> 01:30:58.560
jim murez: Do we have any excuse me any items that board officers, would like to speak about that are not on the agenda.

784
01:30:59.730 --> 01:31:01.590
jim murez: And this is not on the outcome agenda.

785
01:31:01.650 --> 01:31:10.590
Daffodil Tyminski: We don't I haven't I, we do have some public comment on the popped up and we've got to board comments so.

786
01:31:10.620 --> 01:31:18.420
jim murez: We don't normally take public comment on the approval of the agenda, I mean we can I don't have any objection it's really.

787
01:31:18.420 --> 01:31:22.710
Daffodil Tyminski: I just uh you know and it's our usual folks but.

788
01:31:22.770 --> 01:31:23.310
jim murez: You know.

789
01:31:24.870 --> 01:31:26.340
Daffodil Tyminski: it's up to the hands raised.

790
01:31:26.340 --> 01:31:28.590
Daffodil Tyminski: And I feel like maybe we should just.

791
01:31:28.860 --> 01:31:32.010
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead, I blend why don't you go first.

792
01:31:35.250 --> 01:31:46.650
Helen Fallon: And I just wanted to find out when you're going to be voting on the loop hack number the vacancies for both the Community officer AMA AMA treasurer.

793
01:31:48.540 --> 01:31:52.560
Helen Fallon: it's been a while was vacancies already filled.

794
01:31:55.620 --> 01:31:56.910
Helen Fallon: That doesn't on this agenda.

795
01:31:58.080 --> 01:31:58.560
jim murez: Thank you.

796
01:32:01.110 --> 01:32:04.200
Daffodil Tyminski: And also Lisa redmen has a comment.

797
01:32:06.180 --> 01:32:07.410
Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa why don't you go ahead.

798
01:32:08.370 --> 01:32:19.470
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: yeah i'm on it's going to bring up the same point Jim you made an announcement last month in your Presidents announcements that there is a board position open that there is a treasure position open.

799
01:32:20.070 --> 01:32:25.320
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And outreach has been advertising like crazy for that little pig board position so there's got to be.

800
01:32:26.310 --> 01:32:27.180
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: You know, some.

801
01:32:28.320 --> 01:32:37.440
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Possibly applications in and that they would be voted on this month, so that's got to be added to the agenda as well.

802
01:32:42.750 --> 01:32:46.410
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, both Okay, and with that we can close public comment.

803
01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:49.200
jim murez: um we.

804
01:32:49.320 --> 01:32:50.130
jim murez: Do yeah.

805
01:32:50.250 --> 01:32:58.590
jim murez: i'm afraid to let me just ask you a question, are you aware of any applications that have come in, nobody has said anything to me and I talked to mckellar earlier so.

806
01:32:59.850 --> 01:33:03.660
jim murez: I don't believe he's gotten any from Lou pack I, in as far as I know.

807
01:33:05.130 --> 01:33:12.540
jim murez: The the treasures application was just recently posted I don't think it's been out there, even for for 10 days, yet, but.

808
01:33:14.010 --> 01:33:26.130
Daffodil Tyminski: So I I don't know who has been sent on the board the applications, I know of at least one board officer candidate who's emailed some folks I don't know.

809
01:33:26.820 --> 01:33:38.220
jim murez: Well let's ask Melissa because they were supposed to go to all of her and Melissa that was in the form, Melissa have you received any emails that that talked about applications your hand is up also.

810
01:33:38.880 --> 01:33:41.880
Melissa Diner: um yeah i'll double check my files that I don't believe so.

811
01:33:42.690 --> 01:33:43.080
Melissa Diner: Okay.

812
01:33:44.040 --> 01:33:47.880
jim murez: All right, we covered the basis does anybody have anything else.

813
01:33:51.030 --> 01:33:59.880
Melissa Diner: yeah, the only thing I wanted to say is like you know all these like comments about my position you guys are entitled to say whatever, but I think.

814
01:34:00.330 --> 01:34:16.080
Melissa Diner: That everyone also just has to be like remember that we've been encoded for two years, you know every committee members, both to sit on two committees, I don't even think anyone's sitting on one committee I don't even know how many ad.

815
01:34:16.200 --> 01:34:26.100
Melissa Diner: hoc committee to even met so you know, anyone can come at me as much as they want, but I think you should hold everyone to the same standard.

816
01:34:26.490 --> 01:34:30.930
Melissa Diner: And we wouldn't have the board during these times, if we didn't like work with people.

817
01:34:31.590 --> 01:34:48.690
Melissa Diner: We saw even how to training for the board, so I can take the heat i've collaborated with Jim on the things we said we would create we're getting things done, if anyone wants to talk to me about my role personally have at it, but that's all I wanted to say about that Thank you.

818
01:34:49.920 --> 01:34:50.640
jim murez: Thank you, Melissa.

819
01:34:50.760 --> 01:34:51.780
jim murez: anybody else.

820
01:34:54.690 --> 01:34:58.020
jim murez: Okay um motion to adjourn.

821
01:34:58.680 --> 01:35:00.060
Alley Bean: Wait Jim my hands raised.

822
01:35:00.240 --> 01:35:01.590
jim murez: Oh go ahead i'm sorry.

823
01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:07.320
Alley Bean: yeah I mean I don't know how to put the it's not, this is not emotion, or anything like that, but it just it, you know forward thinking.

824
01:35:07.740 --> 01:35:17.430
Alley Bean: You know we're probably the the whole subject of the median is probably going to come before the coastal Commission fairly soon and i'm just wondering as a board if we shouldn't.

825
01:35:17.910 --> 01:35:24.420
Alley Bean: come together and have a conversation i've been really thinking a lot about Chapter three of the coastal Commission.

826
01:35:26.370 --> 01:35:35.250
Alley Bean: Has a lot in it that would really, especially with the most recent ruling and they made have a lot to say about.

827
01:35:36.270 --> 01:35:45.150
Alley Bean: You know, a 40 lot consolidation on I just thought I did I don't know if I should go through loop back or where to make the motion but I think as a board, we really should strongly.

828
01:35:46.140 --> 01:35:52.350
Alley Bean: You know, think about coming together towards you know and and speaking to the coastal Commission Oh, I know is meeting tomorrow morning.

829
01:35:52.800 --> 01:36:00.900
Alley Bean: But it's too late to do that probably as board, but you know, like really thinking you know we have to be forward thinking it's such a major issue.

830
01:36:01.470 --> 01:36:16.350
Alley Bean: For me, anyway, I think, to the board in Venice is the first 40 lot consolidation, much more than a three lot consolidation that we've ever faced I just think that you know, we should think about making emotion as a board about that to the coastal Commission.

831
01:36:17.040 --> 01:36:24.030
jim murez: So the Board has a motion that included a Community impact statement on to.

832
01:36:25.650 --> 01:36:28.740
jim murez: counsel files in the city on that project.

833
01:36:29.700 --> 01:36:36.690
Alley Bean: What have we thought about thinking with the coastal Commissioners individually as a board and getting them on the medium.

834
01:36:36.750 --> 01:36:37.230
So.

835
01:36:38.670 --> 01:36:54.240
jim murez: The only conversation that could be had with Commissioners would be that which were were approved by the board and that would be those two Community impact statements that were referenced it by agenda items as well.

836
01:36:56.760 --> 01:37:03.450
Alley Bean: If you want to call yourself yeah i'm just thinking as a board that we should think that the coastal conditions, a little bit different than the city.

837
01:37:03.780 --> 01:37:05.640
Alley Bean: because their issues are different.

838
01:37:06.540 --> 01:37:09.030
Alley Bean: We come together as a board against yeah.

839
01:37:09.120 --> 01:37:09.570
jim murez: Let me.

840
01:37:09.780 --> 01:37:12.540
jim murez: Three of the coastal let me interrupt you, for a second.

841
01:37:12.660 --> 01:37:20.490
jim murez: Okay neighborhood councils were formed by the city of Los Angeles, to report to.

842
01:37:21.660 --> 01:37:22.470
jim murez: The.

843
01:37:23.520 --> 01:37:32.220
jim murez: Council Council commissions boards and committees of the city.

844
01:37:33.240 --> 01:37:44.940
jim murez: We have been told by done for whatever it's worth that we're not supposed to be reaching out to anybody outside that jurisdiction.

845
01:37:46.590 --> 01:38:05.790
jim murez: So for the board to write something to the coastal Commission, the only thing that we could write would be to say that we have already notified the city in case they're unaware that they we did submit something to the city disapproving it.

846
01:38:06.390 --> 01:38:07.920
jim murez: We cannot write to them.

847
01:38:07.980 --> 01:38:09.900
jim murez: and try and and and.

848
01:38:11.340 --> 01:38:14.040
jim murez: As a board, we cannot try to.

849
01:38:15.360 --> 01:38:16.680
jim murez: rally their support.

850
01:38:17.160 --> 01:38:19.290
Alley Bean: Other than that, just like any other.

851
01:38:20.040 --> 01:38:26.340
Alley Bean: You know any other Council in the city of La we're the only one, you know protected by the coastal Commission.

852
01:38:26.550 --> 01:38:30.600
Alley Bean: Well, really, really specific to us, and I think they do protect us.

853
01:38:30.780 --> 01:38:31.830
Melissa Diner: So jam also.

854
01:38:31.830 --> 01:38:43.860
Melissa Diner: that's not entirely true like where is that in writing, like they can tell us to do anything to kind of control this we have for many years, send letters to our state senators, we have representatives from offices.

855
01:38:44.070 --> 01:38:51.720
Melissa Diner: outside of the city come to our meetings we talked to them all the time you as the President can decide to send it to whoever you want, on our behalf.

856
01:38:51.990 --> 01:39:03.510
Melissa Diner: You know, like until we have that in some rule where's that in the Charter like we've done it consistently over the years that was just something that came up in the past few years, and I think it was completely.

857
01:39:03.900 --> 01:39:17.370
Melissa Diner: pulled out of thin air, I don't think that exists anywhere other than they'd like to control it, because they don't want us to like be reaching out to people if they're not reaching out to them directly, but I don't think they can can make that call.

858
01:39:21.300 --> 01:39:21.720
jay handal: Jim.

859
01:39:21.990 --> 01:39:23.100
jim murez: yeah go ahead.

860
01:39:23.940 --> 01:39:37.110
jay handal: So the city attorney is opine that neighborhood Councils cannot reach out directly to other other jurisdictions with policy.

861
01:39:38.070 --> 01:40:03.390
jay handal: It has to be something to city council has enacted and taken a position on only to city council has the jurisdiction to be able to advise another jurisdiction of a position of the city agency so because neighborhood councils are when the city wants us to be a city agency.

862
01:40:04.500 --> 01:40:19.950
jay handal: A city agency, we can't do that when they don't want us to be a city agency, then they ignore us and do other things, but this is actually something that the city attorney wrote, and I believe, if you check with Freddie it done.

863
01:40:20.970 --> 01:40:30.960
jay handal: There was a letter that went out to all neighborhood Councils advising them of this that we don't have the right and we are not allowed.

864
01:40:31.530 --> 01:40:44.040
jay handal: To reach out on anything that the city count if the City Council said we're against SBA Okay, we can support the city council's position of being against SBA.

865
01:40:44.610 --> 01:40:55.770
jay handal: and say that, but we can't come out and say we're for SBA when the city's against SBA or if the city hasn't taken a position on SBA.

866
01:40:56.160 --> 01:41:06.210
jay handal: And for those of you who are going to raise your hand and say what's SBA i'm just making it up okay it's an example so that's what the city attorney has old pine and I.

867
01:41:07.110 --> 01:41:10.050
Alley Bean: Think The difference is, though, that we're in a duel just.

868
01:41:10.230 --> 01:41:12.900
jay handal: it's not no it's not a difference.

869
01:41:13.170 --> 01:41:14.790
jay handal: The fact of the matter is.

870
01:41:14.820 --> 01:41:27.570
jay handal: The coastal Commission has nothing to do with the city of La and and the City Council we under charter section 900 through 909.

871
01:41:28.530 --> 01:41:36.210
jay handal: advisory to the City Council only that's what the charges section states.

872
01:41:36.390 --> 01:41:38.610
Alley Bean: I know, but we're Venice and I really I think.

873
01:41:38.610 --> 01:41:42.270
jay handal: That doesn't make a difference you're no different than the other 98 neighborhood.

874
01:41:42.270 --> 01:41:46.650
Alley Bean: Countless because we're in a dual dual jurisdiction J we're not like the other party.

875
01:41:46.650 --> 01:41:47.070
jay handal: You know what.

876
01:41:47.520 --> 01:41:51.360
jim murez: Ali Ali let's let's let's not get dual jurisdiction from.

877
01:41:51.360 --> 01:41:53.040
jim murez: single jurisdiction confused.

878
01:41:53.190 --> 01:42:01.980
jim murez: right that that's that's a completely different issue I think what what alley what you're saying is is, we also fall under coastal review.

879
01:42:02.220 --> 01:42:02.460
Alley Bean: yeah.

880
01:42:02.760 --> 01:42:03.930
jim murez: The coastal zone.

881
01:42:04.080 --> 01:42:04.500
Alley Bean: Yes.

882
01:42:04.560 --> 01:42:21.780
jim murez: You just point out that soda San Pedro and so does the palisades the palisades has done something that many people in Venice have suggested, we really should think about and that is, they created a Community Council they're not a neighborhood Council.

883
01:42:22.230 --> 01:42:32.940
jim murez: they're funded they're funded directly by the Community themselves Brentwood did the same thing, and because of that they can reach out directly to the coastal Commission.

884
01:42:34.110 --> 01:42:36.060
jim murez: They have the ability to do that.

885
01:42:36.150 --> 01:42:37.110
Alley Bean: Why don't we do that.

886
01:42:37.470 --> 01:42:50.370
jim murez: As a neighborhood Council we're not allowed to do it now like I said we did submit a Community impact statement to a proposal that the city made.

887
01:42:51.540 --> 01:42:56.790
jim murez: We can send a letter that stated, the position of.

888
01:42:56.820 --> 01:43:16.020
jim murez: The neighborhood Council to the motion that the city made to the to the Council file that the city made they made to and in both cases we have made statements and we're allowed to do that, we can send a copy of what that Community impact statement was.

889
01:43:17.370 --> 01:43:23.280
jim murez: But we can't go farther than that that's, the only thing we can do, because there is a Council file.

890
01:43:23.490 --> 01:43:26.250
jim murez: We can say this was our position on that Council file.

891
01:43:27.210 --> 01:43:30.090
Alley Bean: How do we, how do we make a Community committee should we do that.

892
01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:32.010
Ivan: To Community impact.

893
01:43:34.710 --> 01:43:43.950
Melissa Diner: Clear, you can we can make any motion on the topic that you're talking about it's just a matter of who we can send it to that's The only difference, but that doesn't mean that like.

894
01:43:44.250 --> 01:43:58.080
Melissa Diner: We can't make a motion and pass it on the media like you're talking about and then you as an individual or actually I don't know if it was unusual, but if some other individual wants to send our motion to whoever the coastal Commission they can.

895
01:43:58.560 --> 01:44:04.650
Melissa Diner: write like it's just a matter of can Jim is saying his position on this is that he believes that.

896
01:44:05.100 --> 01:44:16.320
Melissa Diner: we're not supposed to send it to anyone that's outside of the city, I personally don't agree with that, I want to see that in writing of where our rules that govern neighborhood Councils say that we can't send emails.

897
01:44:16.590 --> 01:44:27.630
Melissa Diner: To anyone we want, we can send emails to anyone, we want for an election but we can't send them to anyone, we want for emotion it's ridiculous, in my opinion, I don't agree with it, and I still think we should investigate it further.

898
01:44:27.990 --> 01:44:36.330
Melissa Diner: And we should be able to poke to promote whatever it is that we're doing that our counselor to whoever we want to try and get things done, I think that's the point.

899
01:44:36.900 --> 01:44:43.200
Melissa Diner: of local government, no matter what the committee is, but we can look into that further either way we could put emotion on.

900
01:44:43.740 --> 01:44:44.010
I.

901
01:44:45.270 --> 01:44:45.750
Daffodil Tyminski: Call.

902
01:44:45.780 --> 01:45:05.700
Daffodil Tyminski: sort of a distinction without a difference because we are the official government body for our community in Los Angeles, but no one respects it and we have tons of organizations or people that interact directly with the coastal Commission and purport to be the official.

903
01:45:07.890 --> 01:45:22.350
Daffodil Tyminski: Statement of our Community and coastal Commission doesn't care if they're real elected people or not right, in fact, in my experience, coastal Commission tends to bend to small fringe minorities.

904
01:45:23.250 --> 01:45:33.360
Daffodil Tyminski: And, and they could absolutely care less whether we are official neighborhood Council or Community Council or dog catcher association of the city of Los Angeles.

905
01:45:33.480 --> 01:45:34.260
jay handal: Okay guys.

906
01:45:35.370 --> 01:45:37.950
jay handal: i'm going to forward this over to you, Jim.

907
01:45:38.400 --> 01:45:44.970
jay handal: yeah it's on the web on their website at the empower la.

908
01:45:45.300 --> 01:46:04.650
jay handal: Okay, and it says, specifically the Charter specification of the roles and chose a system where the city speaks with one voice to avoid confusion on matters involving county state or federal legislation and other issues neighborhood Councils neighborhood Councils in their advisory role.

909
01:46:05.670 --> 01:46:10.860
jay handal: are permitted to send their board approved positions to the city council and mayor.

910
01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:30.270
jay handal: Also neighborhood Council board members may in individual capacity advocate for or against county state or federal issues as long as it is made clear that they are communicating in their private capacities and not using public resources to present their opinions.

911
01:46:30.480 --> 01:46:30.900
Okay.

912
01:46:32.400 --> 01:46:44.820
Daffodil Tyminski: But you're 1,000% right but that's what happens right um we for the limited purpose of the city, we have very narrowly prescribed kind of positions, we can take.

913
01:46:45.360 --> 01:46:55.020
Daffodil Tyminski: But, most people in Venice that advocate for positions against what our Council takes they just go to the federal and state agencies.

914
01:46:55.440 --> 01:47:05.760
Daffodil Tyminski: They don't mention there on the neighborhood Council and they lobby hard against it, even by the way, if they voted in a contradictory weight on the neighborhood Council.

915
01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:08.970
Daffodil Tyminski: Right oh it's the total farce, the.

916
01:47:08.970 --> 01:47:09.660
Daffodil Tyminski: whole day.

917
01:47:09.990 --> 01:47:16.080
jay handal: You know what honestly so most of our system, you know they play cade us to be quite fair.

918
01:47:17.220 --> 01:47:35.280
jay handal: But the fact that matter is, you know they have this thing called exhaustive efforts, and if you cross the line they shut you down so it's just important to recognize, no matter how much frustration, we have with the lack of our power to do anything.

919
01:47:36.450 --> 01:47:50.460
jay handal: These people put out rules and they put it in writing this was easy for me to pull up off the Internet took me exactly 30 seconds, you know cuz I know they've had we had it in our Council in West la you know.

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01:47:50.520 --> 01:47:55.680
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm just saying it's it's silly to even make the distinction, whether or neighborhood Council community.

921
01:47:55.680 --> 01:47:57.120
Daffodil Tyminski: Council I know Ali.

922
01:47:57.210 --> 01:48:00.300
Daffodil Tyminski: Does a lot of lobbying and father and her group.

923
01:48:00.960 --> 01:48:04.980
Daffodil Tyminski: and honestly coastal Commission could give a rat's ass about what the neighborhood Council.

924
01:48:04.980 --> 01:48:05.370
jim murez: Days.

925
01:48:05.520 --> 01:48:06.600
Daffodil Tyminski: So data go.

926
01:48:06.750 --> 01:48:11.610
jim murez: daffodil hold on one second a Community Council is not governed by the city.

927
01:48:11.910 --> 01:48:12.630
Daffodil Tyminski: I know.

928
01:48:12.750 --> 01:48:13.890
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, I understand that.

929
01:48:14.010 --> 01:48:15.180
jay handal: it's a big difference.

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01:48:15.240 --> 01:48:16.350
jay handal: Why, I will tell you.

931
01:48:16.830 --> 01:48:29.400
Daffodil Tyminski: guys because we respect the process right we have so many people in our Community that don't respect the process and misrepresent the process and they do it to coastal and they do it to other agencies and those agencies don't care.

932
01:48:30.330 --> 01:48:30.930
Daffodil Tyminski: and care.

933
01:48:31.110 --> 01:48:32.820
jay handal: yeah and the truth of the matter is.

934
01:48:32.820 --> 01:48:36.540
jay handal: Oh, you can go to coastal and you can do the same thing, and knowing.

935
01:48:36.630 --> 01:48:38.160
Daffodil Tyminski: You know who absolutely.

936
01:48:38.310 --> 01:48:38.790
jay handal: You know the.

937
01:48:39.330 --> 01:48:42.450
Daffodil Tyminski: squad and if coastal once I leave us, they will they don't.

938
01:48:42.960 --> 01:49:03.150
jay handal: desire, but as a group, as a neighborhood Council under the umbrella of the city of La and empower la it's been made clear to us as neighborhood Council people, we cannot go as neighborhood Councils, with a position.

939
01:49:04.230 --> 01:49:07.800
jay handal: Cities to any other city state federal county.

940
01:49:08.160 --> 01:49:09.630
jay handal: or Disneyland.

941
01:49:09.840 --> 01:49:10.200
I.

942
01:49:11.970 --> 01:49:16.440
Daffodil Tyminski: respect that right which is not what we see all the time, but as soon as you.

943
01:49:16.470 --> 01:49:20.190
jay handal: grow, you know I see people run red lights all the time and I can't stop them.

944
01:49:20.580 --> 01:49:21.240
jay handal: Right, you know.

945
01:49:21.450 --> 01:49:22.980
Daffodil Tyminski: It happens I know.

946
01:49:23.280 --> 01:49:24.240
jay handal: People are people.

947
01:49:24.570 --> 01:49:24.870
jay handal: You know.

948
01:49:26.520 --> 01:49:29.310
jay handal: Anyway, that I just wanted to send that Jim you have.

949
01:49:30.840 --> 01:49:31.110
jim murez: God.

950
01:49:31.350 --> 01:49:32.880
jay handal: share it with everybody, please.

951
01:49:32.940 --> 01:49:39.840
jim murez: I got it as a text message I think okay i'll do that um anything else that anybody would like to speak on.

952
01:49:40.590 --> 01:49:41.850
jay handal: yeah motion to adjourn.

953
01:49:42.060 --> 01:49:42.900
jim murez: yeah I agree.

954
01:49:43.680 --> 01:49:44.220
Daffodil Tyminski: I can.

955
01:49:45.420 --> 01:49:46.950
jim murez: Okay, good night everyone, thank you.

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01:49:47.310 --> 01:49:47.700
jay handal: Thank you.

957
01:49:49.470 --> 01:49:50.010
Alley Bean: goodnight night.

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Daffodil Tyminski: See ya.