WEBVTT 1 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:05.310 Isabelle Duvivier: Hello. 2 00:01:06.990 --> 00:01:09.450 Isabelle Duvivier: Thank you for adding me. 3 00:01:31.110 --> 00:01:32.610 Isabelle Duvivier: TIM, are you going to go away now. 4 00:01:42.330 --> 00:01:44.340 james murez: Isabel your host i'm hanging up. 5 00:01:44.850 --> 00:01:45.810 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay bye. 6 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:51.000 Isabelle Duvivier: Thank you. 7 00:02:01.980 --> 00:02:04.170 Isabelle Duvivier: hi mark, are you there i'm trying to. 8 00:02:10.050 --> 00:02:25.800 Isabelle Duvivier: it's never as easy as you want see allowed to talk there we go actually I should probably make you a panelist instead of just allowing you to talk, let me see here we go, yes, promote two panelists while. 9 00:02:30.480 --> 00:02:34.020 Isabelle Duvivier: i'm turning off my camera for a second, so I can finish eating. 10 00:02:38.490 --> 00:02:39.390 Isabelle Duvivier: MARQuIS there. 11 00:02:45.720 --> 00:02:50.100 Isabelle Duvivier: You are muted, I am going to turn off my camera while I finished my salad. 12 00:02:51.330 --> 00:02:55.410 Isabelle Duvivier: But I can hear you if you want to talk, but you're still muted. 13 00:04:35.400 --> 00:04:36.000 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: There we go. 14 00:04:36.060 --> 00:04:38.730 Isabelle Duvivier: Can anyone hear me any i'm just finishing my lunch. 15 00:04:40.500 --> 00:04:41.010 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay. 16 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:42.990 Isabelle Duvivier: Can you hear me. 17 00:04:43.500 --> 00:04:44.700 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I can hear you just fine. 18 00:04:45.150 --> 00:04:47.160 Isabelle Duvivier: I think Marcus I can't hear you. 19 00:04:47.820 --> 00:04:51.360 Isabelle Duvivier: Oh, oh there we go I had had you muted, I think. 20 00:04:52.230 --> 00:04:53.190 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay well. 21 00:04:55.440 --> 00:04:55.710 Isabelle Duvivier: No. 22 00:04:56.310 --> 00:04:57.450 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I think we're good to go. 23 00:04:59.100 --> 00:05:00.390 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: mark is here to. 24 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:14.400 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: There was one item that I forgot to put on the agenda and I don't want I don't know what we should do about it, it was um we were going to agenda is trying to get after the issues and centennial park. 25 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:19.320 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And we can amend the. 26 00:05:20.580 --> 00:05:26.160 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We can agree to amend the agenda and then put that in there, but we have a very full day already. 27 00:05:27.930 --> 00:05:28.980 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: i'm just wondering. 28 00:05:30.090 --> 00:05:33.390 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: What you think about that if you've heard anything more. 29 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:35.640 Isabelle Duvivier: From rap. 30 00:05:36.450 --> 00:05:36.930 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah. 31 00:05:37.380 --> 00:05:38.370 Isabelle Duvivier: You know nothing. 32 00:05:38.640 --> 00:05:42.120 Mark Ryavec: But you raise a brown act as you it's not listed, then we shouldn't be discussing. 33 00:05:42.450 --> 00:05:44.010 Mark Ryavec: Okay, unless. 34 00:05:44.130 --> 00:05:45.870 Isabelle Duvivier: We can talk about during public comment. 35 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:58.800 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We can talk about break during public comment um Okay, so we cannot, we cannot amend the Minutes during the meeting, even though the public is all with us. 36 00:05:59.850 --> 00:06:06.270 Mark Ryavec: Because they don't technically they don't know that it is going to be discussed, and so they don't know to tune in. 37 00:06:06.570 --> 00:06:08.400 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Right got it that makes sense. 38 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:12.360 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay well. 39 00:06:12.930 --> 00:06:18.180 Isabelle Duvivier: We also didn't put marvis to Garden on there, but I think we can just talk about that during public comment. 40 00:06:18.780 --> 00:06:23.520 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: No it's it's actually in your reports it's in a section that you're reporting on. 41 00:06:24.270 --> 00:06:42.600 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, so it was it was put there because I wasn't sure that we had many things to change with regard to that, but also it's you know partially because we want to just make sure that everybody remembers to go and. 42 00:06:43.860 --> 00:06:48.720 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: If you have anything that you want comment on, and you can go ahead and ask us for that. 43 00:06:52.410 --> 00:06:53.370 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: But it's first up. 44 00:06:53.880 --> 00:06:58.830 Isabelle Duvivier: We haven't really report it was more like i'd like to discuss how we're going to organize it. 45 00:07:00.330 --> 00:07:08.520 Isabelle Duvivier: But I think, maybe we should move it well right like I said rob he's gonna be here, so we can try to have just a really quick conversation about it with him. 46 00:07:08.970 --> 00:07:19.020 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay um so I can announce that it's happening and then see if anyone find out who's going to come, so we can kind of figure out how to. 47 00:07:20.700 --> 00:07:21.870 Isabelle Duvivier: divide the workload. 48 00:07:22.260 --> 00:07:23.520 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay that's fine. 49 00:07:26.070 --> 00:07:28.800 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, well, we have a couple minutes more. 50 00:07:30.660 --> 00:07:33.270 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I think we're all set and ready to go, let me i'm. 51 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:40.140 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: actually going to pull up my agenda right now I actually noticed. 52 00:07:42.780 --> 00:07:44.400 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: That, I had a redundant. 53 00:07:45.450 --> 00:07:48.990 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Item you guys hear that the background so loud here. 54 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:51.840 Isabelle Duvivier: was a just a car. 55 00:07:51.960 --> 00:08:00.210 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Just a motorcycle yeah I mean when you live up high like I do the sound really curious upward so nothing to block it. 56 00:08:00.960 --> 00:08:03.690 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: i'm going to go shut the door actually so that it's. 57 00:08:03.690 --> 00:08:04.110 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Not. 58 00:08:04.620 --> 00:08:08.310 Isabelle Duvivier: There wasn't really a problem it's kind of like a little background. 59 00:08:34.350 --> 00:08:39.900 Isabelle Duvivier: So when you guys were in the waiting room, you can see, the rest of us and you can hear us all right. 60 00:08:41.730 --> 00:08:43.920 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: When I was in the waiting room, all I could see was mark. 61 00:08:46.350 --> 00:08:50.490 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah but you could yeah so yeah I just have my camera off, but so yeah okay. 62 00:08:51.630 --> 00:09:03.990 Isabelle Duvivier: Because we think we're in a private room, but if someone's in an attendee in the waiting room they're listening to everything we're saying it's just always good to remember that oh and let's not forget to record for is this automatically recording. 63 00:09:04.620 --> 00:09:09.870 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I believe it's recording already, but what i'm a little confused by as who is it that's admitting everybody. 64 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:11.400 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: me okay good. 65 00:09:11.550 --> 00:09:15.780 Isabelle Duvivier: All right, yeah i'm just doing that, so you can monitor you can run the meeting. 66 00:09:16.380 --> 00:09:18.210 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, oh here's Evan great. 67 00:09:18.900 --> 00:09:19.320 Hello. 68 00:09:43.650 --> 00:09:47.490 Isabelle Duvivier: promoted Andreas but he's not coming up let's see try, one more time. 69 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:01.920 Michael McGuffin: I think you saw me. 70 00:10:05.280 --> 00:10:06.150 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: hi Michael. 71 00:10:08.610 --> 00:10:09.060 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: How are you. 72 00:10:10.560 --> 00:10:11.670 Michael McGuffin: Oh well. 73 00:10:13.980 --> 00:10:16.140 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: guess i'm the only one who's not feeling shy today. 74 00:10:19.260 --> 00:10:22.530 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: hey everybody seems to be with no camera. 75 00:10:23.970 --> 00:10:24.690 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: dress. 76 00:10:24.870 --> 00:10:27.720 andreas: Right yeah do you have any. 77 00:10:28.560 --> 00:10:29.610 andreas: New default. 78 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:33.060 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The new default of not having your camera on. 79 00:10:34.290 --> 00:10:35.370 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I know I mean. 80 00:10:36.900 --> 00:10:44.970 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: It is easier to eat your lunch or to get rid of like just now I got rid of my clean laundry that was in a pile on the couch. 81 00:10:48.420 --> 00:10:49.860 Isabelle Duvivier: Make sure my beds made. 82 00:10:51.870 --> 00:10:54.900 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay guys it's 1130 you gotta have your laundry out of the way. 83 00:10:58.830 --> 00:11:05.250 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I think we're still waiting for Barry and Noel correct five of them said they were going to be with us. 84 00:11:07.410 --> 00:11:10.890 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: But we actually do have a quorum. 85 00:11:12.930 --> 00:11:15.120 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I do, I think we should wait a couple more seconds. 86 00:11:18.210 --> 00:11:19.350 Isabelle Duvivier: i'll text Noel. 87 00:11:19.710 --> 00:11:20.340 Okay. 88 00:11:29.340 --> 00:11:30.960 Isabelle Duvivier: robbie's not coming he just said. 89 00:11:31.650 --> 00:11:33.360 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Oh that's too bad. 90 00:11:37.290 --> 00:11:38.520 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Did you guys something happened. 91 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:50.700 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: wonder if heather is coming today actually. 92 00:12:09.630 --> 00:12:12.750 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So i'll take notes, as usual, I actually was. 93 00:12:15.270 --> 00:12:18.240 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: thinking that Noel might be able to have help out with that. 94 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:24.840 here. 95 00:12:27.180 --> 00:12:28.080 Isabelle Duvivier: comes Barry. 96 00:12:34.260 --> 00:12:39.330 Isabelle Duvivier: What some of my other groups do is that they listen to the recording. 97 00:12:40.590 --> 00:12:46.920 Isabelle Duvivier: To finish the notes, so that they don't have to take copious fantastic notes, they just go back later. 98 00:12:47.310 --> 00:12:49.200 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Right now it's just it's. 99 00:12:49.590 --> 00:13:03.600 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: A lot more time consuming but yeah that does make it a possibility, I think I will there are actually some things in the in the June Minutes that were unclear, I was just working to complete them. 100 00:13:04.980 --> 00:13:08.160 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And I probably will use that method i'll just go ahead and listen to the. 101 00:13:08.160 --> 00:13:10.380 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Recording hi guys hi Barry. 102 00:13:10.620 --> 00:13:12.270 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: hi how are you. 103 00:13:12.810 --> 00:13:14.520 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, go ahead. 104 00:13:14.700 --> 00:13:16.440 Barry Campion: i'm curious where you going into this year. 105 00:13:18.900 --> 00:13:25.410 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I guess if everyone will wants to just listen to me talk about my traps. 106 00:13:25.680 --> 00:13:28.020 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And we're going to go to pioneer basin it's on the east. 107 00:13:28.020 --> 00:13:28.470 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: side. 108 00:13:28.770 --> 00:13:29.550 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: never been there. 109 00:13:30.390 --> 00:13:32.070 Barry Campion: No, I don't think I have. 110 00:13:32.160 --> 00:13:32.850 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: it's kind of. 111 00:13:33.900 --> 00:13:41.700 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: it's kind of we're doing like a loop right, I mean we're not doing a little we're doing a drop in one place and go to another. 112 00:13:41.760 --> 00:13:49.470 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Whole will be meeting at a place called mcgee creek campground little drop one car there and then we're going to drive down to. 113 00:13:51.180 --> 00:13:54.030 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: A trailhead near Hilton lakes you. 114 00:13:54.810 --> 00:13:57.570 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Know it's out its out of tom's place tom's places. 115 00:13:57.570 --> 00:13:59.940 Barry Campion: or place rock creek yeah. 116 00:14:00.180 --> 00:14:01.200 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah it's kind of the other a. 117 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:03.630 Barry Campion: lot of there's a lot of great stuff around there yeah. 118 00:14:03.660 --> 00:14:06.180 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah i'm excited we're going to be starting at 10,000 feet. 119 00:14:06.870 --> 00:14:07.740 Isabelle Duvivier: Well, no. 120 00:14:07.800 --> 00:14:09.180 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: i'm a little nervous but. 121 00:14:10.260 --> 00:14:10.980 it's okay. 122 00:14:12.840 --> 00:14:14.310 Barry Campion: acclamation, is important. 123 00:14:14.430 --> 00:14:28.980 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Actually we're going to spend a night before we get started hi good so okay well we're four minutes in, so I think we should go ahead and call to order and roll call on President Isabel mark no well we're still missing. 124 00:14:30.270 --> 00:14:31.020 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: she's coming. 125 00:14:31.680 --> 00:14:44.790 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: All marker when she gets here and Barry and Michael and I have the pleasure of Andreas and Evan as members of the concern public. 126 00:14:46.800 --> 00:14:47.940 Isabelle Duvivier: Oh here she comes good. 127 00:14:48.270 --> 00:14:51.000 Okay fabulous okay. 128 00:14:52.140 --> 00:14:55.770 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: hi Noel you hear me, yes, we can. 129 00:14:56.250 --> 00:14:56.850 Noel Johnston: You see me. 130 00:14:57.210 --> 00:15:00.480 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: we're just getting started I just did the roll call so i'm marking, you have. 131 00:15:01.380 --> 00:15:09.030 Isabelle Duvivier: To do to do accept my offer to become panelists or whatever I don't know, do you have to accept an offer to become a panelist. 132 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:10.020 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Are you speaking to me. 133 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:16.920 Isabelle Duvivier: to know well, oh here I think here she comes i'm a little confused she keeps going muting and then. 134 00:15:18.570 --> 00:15:22.350 Isabelle Duvivier: OK, so now she's an official panelists okay great. 135 00:15:22.650 --> 00:15:24.180 Isabelle Duvivier: Good hi there you go. 136 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:25.350 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: There you are. 137 00:15:25.770 --> 00:15:35.010 Isabelle Duvivier: Good or wow nice classes great earrings wow look at her office great artwork. 138 00:15:35.190 --> 00:15:40.050 Noel Johnston: Is my going to brush I brothers trying to get caps for those sprinklers. 139 00:15:42.750 --> 00:15:45.270 Isabelle Duvivier: Man we're not successful apparently. 140 00:15:47.100 --> 00:15:47.700 Noel Johnston: I got them. 141 00:15:48.090 --> 00:15:49.710 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay okay good. 142 00:15:50.100 --> 00:16:05.370 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, so let's get started, I am I must apologize, the June minutes are finished, but I wanted to check a few facts and figures about who approved what when we voted on our motions last time, so I wanted to. 143 00:16:05.760 --> 00:16:07.440 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Just make sure that that was accurate before. 144 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:12.360 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I posted it, and so I will post, the June minutes we'll have to prove them next time. 145 00:16:14.490 --> 00:16:23.580 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Public comments does anybody have a non agenda item thats related to business arbor committee business. 146 00:16:26.160 --> 00:16:29.100 Isabelle Duvivier: I guess i'd like to bring up one thing a lot of. 147 00:16:29.160 --> 00:16:41.520 Isabelle Duvivier: The other mcs are writing letters of support for the pilot wildlife study ordinance and we haven't done that I noticed that. 148 00:16:42.630 --> 00:16:53.040 Isabelle Duvivier: The del rey green committee just wrote one and i'm just wondering if that's something that we're interested in doing the Santa Monica mountains are. 149 00:16:54.000 --> 00:17:06.750 Isabelle Duvivier: kind of like the headwaters of our parts of our watershed and the ordinance is very important to wildlife and there's a ton of opposition from developers and realtors. 150 00:17:07.470 --> 00:17:21.570 Isabelle Duvivier: But due date for those letters I believe is August 20 seconds, so we may not have time to get the dnc to pass it unless we had a special motion, where I mean a special. 151 00:17:22.530 --> 00:17:42.330 Isabelle Duvivier: Meeting meeting where all we would do is just meet for five seconds and vote on it to send it to the dnc so if that's something that we were interested in doing I could write a letter and then Sarah could schedule the special meeting you can try to get it into the Vinci and time. 152 00:17:43.980 --> 00:17:46.020 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Next fancy board meetings anybody now. 153 00:17:47.190 --> 00:17:59.220 Isabelle Duvivier: Well, it was this week Tuesday was supposed to be this Tuesday, so it would be the third Tuesday so every cutting it oh yeah that might actually be the due date. 154 00:18:00.150 --> 00:18:11.820 Isabelle Duvivier: it's actually probably after the due date or July right so maybe we just send it as vv G is that possible mark and we send a letter, just as bbg. 155 00:18:13.170 --> 00:18:15.450 Mark Ryavec: i'm sorry I didn't understand the question. 156 00:18:16.350 --> 00:18:17.640 Noel Johnston: I don't believe we can. 157 00:18:19.980 --> 00:18:24.090 Mark Ryavec: rocking with you can say it from the rodin Venice group, as opposed to from. 158 00:18:24.750 --> 00:18:37.560 Isabelle Duvivier: Sorry from bb know from bb just convert write a letter and send it on behalf of a of a city ordinance, even though it hasn't been vetted by the greater vn see. 159 00:18:37.890 --> 00:18:38.910 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: you mean to support. 160 00:18:39.300 --> 00:18:40.380 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah yeah. 161 00:18:40.590 --> 00:18:42.480 Mark Ryavec: you're saying, can you send it directly to the city. 162 00:18:43.080 --> 00:18:44.280 Mark Ryavec: yeah no. 163 00:18:44.850 --> 00:18:45.120 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay. 164 00:18:45.180 --> 00:18:51.150 Mark Ryavec: I mean you can do it, but i'm Jim will tell you, you you shouldn't have done it and. 165 00:18:53.100 --> 00:18:59.550 Mark Ryavec: i'm not sure whether the city will actually consider it if it doesn't come from the vm see. 166 00:19:00.780 --> 00:19:05.820 Noel Johnston: that that is what i've been told, in the past and i've been told that one of the reasons that. 167 00:19:07.140 --> 00:19:12.840 Noel Johnston: Other guy that used to head up the homeless committee, who was expelled from a vm whoa. 168 00:19:12.870 --> 00:19:13.500 Mark Ryavec: whoa hawking. 169 00:19:13.980 --> 00:19:18.000 Noel Johnston: yeah well, one of the reasons that he got in trouble was for sending letters. 170 00:19:18.870 --> 00:19:21.900 Mark Ryavec: Like you know the dnc. 171 00:19:22.620 --> 00:19:29.130 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay okay well if we if we find that that board meeting, so the deadline is what day. 172 00:19:29.430 --> 00:19:31.500 Isabelle Duvivier: August 20 I have to double check. 173 00:19:31.800 --> 00:19:38.040 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, why don't you and I offline figure out the dates and then i'll call a special meeting. 174 00:19:38.610 --> 00:19:43.080 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: If everybody amenable to that, and then we can all we need as a quorum. 175 00:19:43.350 --> 00:19:44.160 Isabelle Duvivier: When we can. 176 00:19:44.310 --> 00:19:45.300 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: pass a letter. 177 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:47.790 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and read the letter during that time. 178 00:19:48.390 --> 00:19:53.490 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay okay okay so let's move on to reports i'm. 179 00:19:54.930 --> 00:20:00.840 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The only thing I really want to mention and i'm sure Noel actually probably would mention this to that we had a tree walk. 180 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:04.500 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Now, two Saturdays ago is that right. 181 00:20:05.820 --> 00:20:06.300 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Now just. 182 00:20:08.340 --> 00:20:22.710 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: This past Saturday, and it was very well attended and I think people really enjoyed it and we walked in a section of town that we haven't walked in before and we saw a lot of trees that were nowhere they, and I think it was really. 183 00:20:23.580 --> 00:20:31.200 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: A great walk so I wanted to thank the Members who organized that Noel and Isabel and. 184 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:35.100 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: that's it everything else that I have to say, is an agenda. 185 00:20:36.210 --> 00:20:42.450 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The one other thing I did want to mention is that I made the oversight, I did not agenda as the centennial park and library. 186 00:20:44.220 --> 00:20:53.760 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We do have a really full agenda today so that's going to have to wait until next time i'm sorry about that, I know, Michael human said you'd like to agenda is that and. 187 00:20:55.020 --> 00:21:00.750 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Isabel may have something she wants to say about that, but I don't think we've had any progress or have been able to hear from anyone. 188 00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:03.750 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay that's all I have for my report. 189 00:21:06.180 --> 00:21:17.640 Isabelle Duvivier: So robbie's here, and I know robbie's on a time crunch, do we want to move the well it's my report and it's on my reports on the agenda so hi Robbie. 190 00:21:18.810 --> 00:21:20.550 Isabelle Duvivier: Welcome to bb. 191 00:21:20.790 --> 00:21:22.770 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Everyone hi ronnie. 192 00:21:22.950 --> 00:21:25.200 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Sir good to see you too. 193 00:21:26.370 --> 00:21:28.950 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I just thought I would introduce you quickly. 194 00:21:29.040 --> 00:21:31.860 Ravi Sankaran: As heck i'm learning how to choose the right audio. 195 00:21:35.490 --> 00:21:36.150 Barry Campion: We all. 196 00:21:36.210 --> 00:21:51.720 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Did somebody somebody you know who is talking in the background um so Robbie and I got to know each other as board members of grid alternatives oh it's got to be quite some time ago, maybe 10 years ago almost. 197 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:56.490 Ravi Sankaran: yeah I guess I left the board in 2016 but started a few years for that yeah right. 198 00:21:56.580 --> 00:22:08.610 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: that's right so, and this is a it's a nonprofit that both of us, I think we're really passionate about both of us were working in the solar industry at the time, and it was a organization that. 199 00:22:09.690 --> 00:22:23.220 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: install solar on lower income homes and in lower income neighborhoods and worked during those installations to train young folks who would typically not have an opportunity to. 200 00:22:23.220 --> 00:22:28.830 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Get trained in the construction industry and in the film industry, so it was a it was really a. 201 00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:40.500 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Like a quadruple bottom line organization, it was just It really is a great organization still I just haven't done anything with them in a while, since I finished my board I did two terms on the board, so I was. 202 00:22:41.280 --> 00:22:51.300 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I was pretty done by the time I finished anyway so Robbie was a member of that organization and apparently you're very active in the del rey area, so thank you for coming. 203 00:22:51.810 --> 00:22:58.530 Ravi Sankaran: yeah sure thing, and I will say we grill alternatives when Sarah and I were on the board, that was the heyday of the organization. 204 00:22:59.490 --> 00:23:09.270 Ravi Sankaran: We really crushed it with workforce development in disadvantaged communities workforce development for women in construction which is a big gap in the workforce. 205 00:23:10.170 --> 00:23:20.640 Ravi Sankaran: And you're doing events focused on women in construction with film so Lisa and all of those people, so a lot of great things happen also that wasn't grid alternatives latest entry into the city of La. 206 00:23:21.060 --> 00:23:33.660 Ravi Sankaran: They used to be only in this running parts of La county like comped in long beach, but not the city, because their policies and we help bring grid alternatives to bring nonprofit or solar for disadvantaged communities in La so yeah. 207 00:23:33.990 --> 00:23:38.160 Ravi Sankaran: Just patting both of us on the back yeah was pretty good time. 208 00:23:38.670 --> 00:23:41.820 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, so please Isabel proceed. 209 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:51.360 Isabelle Duvivier: So one of one of my goals as a see fact rap is to spread some of the work that bb is doing across CD 11. 210 00:23:51.840 --> 00:24:07.710 Isabelle Duvivier: And robbie's group is one of those groups they're they're super interested in trees and their group recently got the tree guarantee fee planting of what was it 57 trees over by the 405 freeway. 211 00:24:08.130 --> 00:24:17.010 Isabelle Duvivier: And as part of that discussion with them when I presented, one of the one of robbie's now board members. 212 00:24:18.030 --> 00:24:24.450 Isabelle Duvivier: who lives in mar vista gardens expressed her concern that or vista grab gardens is losing tree species. 213 00:24:26.340 --> 00:24:30.660 Isabelle Duvivier: For a variety of reasons that I don't need to get into now and. 214 00:24:31.740 --> 00:24:39.690 Isabelle Duvivier: We heard that robbie's group had planted some trees there last year and that those trees needed tree care so a few members of this group. 215 00:24:40.170 --> 00:24:47.640 Isabelle Duvivier: When over to marvis to gardens to support them and to show them how to stick to the tree show them had a mulch the trees. 216 00:24:48.180 --> 00:24:59.010 Isabelle Duvivier: Water the trees and that started a relationship with Maria and daisy over at mervis gardens and they've asked us to come back, so we have on our agenda now. 217 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:11.910 Isabelle Duvivier: That marvis to arbor group and vv G will be going over to marvis to gardens, which is not mar vista del rey by the bionic creek on August six, so the. 218 00:25:12.510 --> 00:25:20.190 Isabelle Duvivier: interesting and wonderful thing about marvis to gardens is we discovered when we were over there, that they have hundreds of species of oak trees. 219 00:25:20.820 --> 00:25:30.390 Isabelle Duvivier: That were planted by northeast trees by Ryan Thomas who's the former President of see FAC who does a lot of planting with with half law. 220 00:25:31.110 --> 00:25:41.910 Isabelle Duvivier: So hopefully Aaron will be there on that tree planting day or a tree care day we're not going to be planting trees that day, but we hope, Brian will plant i'm not Ryan Aaron will plant more trees there. 221 00:25:43.890 --> 00:25:45.660 Isabelle Duvivier: And Dave. 222 00:25:46.710 --> 00:25:50.940 Isabelle Duvivier: Dave monthly will also be there he's the oak tree expert. 223 00:25:52.230 --> 00:26:00.900 Isabelle Duvivier: From APP topia and he's interested in being there to see how the oak trees have have done over the course of the last 10 to 15 years. 224 00:26:01.470 --> 00:26:10.470 Isabelle Duvivier: So I asked ravi to come today because we were going to discuss this at his meeting next month is green committee meeting next month, but he had to cancel that meeting. 225 00:26:11.250 --> 00:26:29.280 Isabelle Duvivier: And it's probably better that you come to us anyway because we're the ones are going to do all the work, and I think, besides you maybe deb would come to Gregory I don't know if you know her as well, Sarah but she's very active at the by the friends know the biannual land trust. 226 00:26:30.300 --> 00:26:48.600 Isabelle Duvivier: know the by owner Renaissance yeah um so she'll probably be there and ravi up there, so this is just an opportunity for us to maybe talk really quick, because we have a big agenda on what we expect to do there who we think is going to show up. 227 00:26:51.210 --> 00:26:52.590 Isabelle Duvivier: So any thoughts ravi. 228 00:26:54.300 --> 00:26:59.130 Ravi Sankaran: yeah I mean this property is a heckler properties, the only hackable property this on the West side. 229 00:26:59.520 --> 00:27:09.240 Ravi Sankaran: And so, in some ways it doesn't get as much attention because the temperatures are cooler it's surrounded by more affluent areas, and so the tree canopy here, you know really needs a lot of work. 230 00:27:09.570 --> 00:27:19.560 Ravi Sankaran: And so it really appreciate you Isabel support with bring in resources like Aaron to one you know help repair some of the trees, of the planet before and also started a new Program. 231 00:27:21.120 --> 00:27:23.700 Ravi Sankaran: that's other we have a good program already lined up for August six. 232 00:27:27.210 --> 00:27:39.840 Isabelle Duvivier: So just say you know ravi I asked Maria to make us the map and she she loves doing that she does really low tech maps they're beautiful she puts pins on a map and then takes a picture of it it's really wonderful. 233 00:27:40.290 --> 00:27:50.160 Isabelle Duvivier: So I asked her to make us a map of the trees that she thought needed care because we've now toward the ground with her twice so she knows kind of what to look for. 234 00:27:51.030 --> 00:28:04.320 Isabelle Duvivier: You could follow up with that maybe with her privately, I noticed that every time we communicate with her and the rest of the group there's a lot of infighting that happens between her and other members of her. 235 00:28:05.940 --> 00:28:07.110 Isabelle Duvivier: of her cordray. 236 00:28:08.610 --> 00:28:23.100 Isabelle Duvivier: So I think that would be helpful because I don't know how many leaders we're going to have from bb I believe Barry will be there and Sarah and Noel Andreas are you going to be able to come on August six. 237 00:28:24.810 --> 00:28:25.590 Isabelle Duvivier: you're muted. 238 00:28:27.840 --> 00:28:28.860 Isabelle Duvivier: You can't hear you. 239 00:28:33.840 --> 00:28:36.840 andreas: Probably not I have conflict starting audience. 240 00:28:37.260 --> 00:28:44.040 Isabelle Duvivier: OK OK and mark Mike Ray avic are you going to be able to attend and Michael macguffin. 241 00:28:44.550 --> 00:28:45.780 Mark Ryavec: i'm sorry remind me today. 242 00:28:46.500 --> 00:28:55.680 Isabelle Duvivier: August six it's for two hours eight to 10 and then, if you want a tree tour with the oak tree expert that would start at 10 so that would probably be like 10 to 11. 243 00:28:55.710 --> 00:28:56.640 Mark Ryavec: y'all went on. 244 00:28:57.300 --> 00:28:59.850 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay, great and you're Okay, being a leader. 245 00:29:00.570 --> 00:29:12.270 Isabelle Duvivier: Because I thought, what we would do is each of us there's ravi correct me there's at least 50 buildings, which means there's about 25 courtyards. 246 00:29:12.780 --> 00:29:22.770 Isabelle Duvivier: Each courtyard has play enough space for 10 trees, but usually they're only half full so each courtyard would have. 247 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:29.970 Isabelle Duvivier: Probably five trees that we would visit, so we may only be able to see a few you know, half of the. 248 00:29:30.510 --> 00:29:39.090 Isabelle Duvivier: property, but if we figure out where the worst ones, are we can divide up and each take a courtyard and hopefully. 249 00:29:39.930 --> 00:29:49.200 Isabelle Duvivier: daisy and Maria will have one or two people that will follow us and we can show them what to look for and how to do stuff. 250 00:29:49.620 --> 00:29:56.010 Isabelle Duvivier: We did some of the like look really low hanging fruit, there were several trees that were super strangles. 251 00:29:56.520 --> 00:30:08.820 Isabelle Duvivier: We did really easy stuff we cut cords we pulled out lose Poles, but there may be a few other things to do, the only other slight impediment is most of the tenants there don't speak English. 252 00:30:09.750 --> 00:30:23.010 Isabelle Duvivier: Most of the ones who are active or latinas there are quite a few Africans black people that live there, but they don't seem to be the ones that are following us around as much. 253 00:30:23.550 --> 00:30:35.610 Isabelle Duvivier: So if you know someone who speaks Spanish who you want to bring along that would be super helpful and they're really adoring of us like they're so psyched that were there. 254 00:30:36.810 --> 00:30:49.200 Isabelle Duvivier: they're eager to learn, they have their own mulch pile so we can just wheel barrel back and forth, they only have one wheelbarrow and so will need to bring our own tools or and shovels. 255 00:30:50.250 --> 00:30:53.790 Isabelle Duvivier: we're not going to do any heavy pruning we can do light pruning. 256 00:30:56.040 --> 00:30:59.730 Isabelle Duvivier: So if Michael did you say you would be able to come that day. 257 00:31:00.390 --> 00:31:02.910 Michael McGuffin: My calendar is currently open. 258 00:31:04.140 --> 00:31:07.800 Michael McGuffin: And I will try to get marcella oliva to join us, if she can. 259 00:31:08.610 --> 00:31:12.480 Michael McGuffin: Okay Spanish speaker and tree lover. 260 00:31:13.950 --> 00:31:17.130 Isabelle Duvivier: Excellent and i'll bring a genesis my employee. 261 00:31:17.550 --> 00:31:20.790 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Sarah i'm not going to be able to make it because i'll be still hiking. 262 00:31:21.420 --> 00:31:36.030 Isabelle Duvivier: Oh darn okay alrighty so so yeah if there are other board members that aren't in here, and maybe we could ask them, but I think actually we don't need our Members who don't know what they're doing so, I think. 263 00:31:37.080 --> 00:31:41.580 Isabelle Duvivier: We may you know we may just have to do what we can do in two hours and leave it at that. 264 00:31:42.090 --> 00:31:45.540 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I think, also heather might be excited to go she's not here today, but. 265 00:31:46.170 --> 00:31:46.590 Isabelle Duvivier: she's the. 266 00:31:47.010 --> 00:31:57.180 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: sort of person who thinks she said she was going to be missing for a couple of weekends, but maybe she'll be here for that weekend and she's she's not gotten to be pretty knowledgeable it should be a real libra libra. 267 00:31:57.420 --> 00:32:00.480 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay Eric is out of town. 268 00:32:02.520 --> 00:32:06.810 Isabelle Duvivier: So yeah so we'll just pull together the biggest group we can and will do what we can. 269 00:32:07.800 --> 00:32:10.290 Ravi Sankaran: And there's built in terms of what you need I guess it's the. 270 00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:14.400 Ravi Sankaran: The map of the proposed locations that's the biggest need. 271 00:32:14.820 --> 00:32:23.190 Isabelle Duvivier: You have from yeah not the proposed tree locations if she had that that would be great too, but more the trees that she thinks needs help need help. 272 00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:32.760 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay, so if there's like a cluster closer together, we could start there since we're probably not going to finish the whole place yeah yeah. 273 00:32:33.570 --> 00:32:47.760 Ravi Sankaran: Because I saw your email and you're correct, there is a lot of infighting within the leadership there, so I tend to just go I may just send a separate of just to Maria then check out i've ever you know direct traffic and she can probably provide what we need anyway. 274 00:32:48.210 --> 00:32:59.130 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah I found that when i've done that, before she's corrected me and said, please copy everybody and then she'll copy daisy and then daisy will say, but why didn't you copy me in the first place so. 275 00:33:00.690 --> 00:33:04.080 Isabelle Duvivier: I just don't know how to deal with that Michael your hands up. 276 00:33:04.770 --> 00:33:05.670 Michael McGuffin: Is this a V. 277 00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:11.550 Michael McGuffin: bb project or a be big project. 278 00:33:13.980 --> 00:33:38.250 Noel Johnston: Actually weekend Marcus I understand that we can't really have you verb projects because bb would have to ask permission from the neighborhood Council in order to do something like this, so I would say that this is a verb i'm pass off to the bb bb bb DVD. 279 00:33:41.340 --> 00:33:43.950 Noel Johnston: inherited project from bb. 280 00:33:46.110 --> 00:33:50.100 Mark Ryavec: Well, I I i'm not sure that that's entirely true. 281 00:33:51.810 --> 00:34:01.410 Mark Ryavec: As long as we're not having a meeting during this work activity um, then I don't think it. 282 00:34:04.350 --> 00:34:06.120 Mark Ryavec: needs to be nc. 283 00:34:07.710 --> 00:34:10.350 Noel Johnston: I thought I thought it was a liability issue mark. 284 00:34:11.340 --> 00:34:12.570 Noel Johnston: Really yeah. 285 00:34:15.570 --> 00:34:18.990 Isabelle Duvivier: Well Robbie you've got experience with that said sure a committee. 286 00:34:19.470 --> 00:34:24.000 Noel Johnston: we're doing something under the under the aegis of the. 287 00:34:25.230 --> 00:34:27.930 Noel Johnston: Venice neighborhood Council, they are. 288 00:34:30.090 --> 00:34:31.800 Noel Johnston: responsible for what we're doing. 289 00:34:32.940 --> 00:34:38.550 Noel Johnston: that's that's why we have to ask to do it in a formal fashion. 290 00:34:39.900 --> 00:34:41.430 Noel Johnston: i've been told this several times. 291 00:34:42.300 --> 00:34:42.720 Okay. 292 00:34:44.070 --> 00:34:44.400 Noel Johnston: I mean. 293 00:34:45.510 --> 00:34:48.930 Noel Johnston: I could be I could be misinformed, but this is what i've been told. 294 00:34:51.780 --> 00:34:56.760 Ravi Sankaran: I guess you're trying to say where there needs to be this committee or the the other one. 295 00:34:56.790 --> 00:34:57.990 Mark Ryavec: DVD management and. 296 00:34:58.230 --> 00:34:58.620 Noel Johnston: room. 297 00:34:59.370 --> 00:35:00.180 Mark Ryavec: The verb and. 298 00:35:01.290 --> 00:35:07.530 Noel Johnston: Venice group is a as a associated with the Venice Chamber of Commerce and it's covered under. 299 00:35:08.730 --> 00:35:19.950 Noel Johnston: it's got a little covered under their liability policy basically we're just the road and Venice group is just a group of volunteers and we're very loosely organized. 300 00:35:21.270 --> 00:35:36.090 Noel Johnston: So we we have not felt the need to get insurance of any kind, because we're independent volunteers and we're not we're not an official organization or a partnership or anything so. 301 00:35:37.770 --> 00:35:40.890 Noel Johnston: that's that's the way we've been operating Robbie and yeah. 302 00:35:42.300 --> 00:35:42.750 Ravi Sankaran: yeah. 303 00:35:43.830 --> 00:35:44.370 Noel Johnston: Okay. 304 00:35:44.700 --> 00:35:45.840 Isabelle Duvivier: Sorry you're muted. 305 00:35:48.180 --> 00:35:48.840 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Michael. 306 00:35:49.410 --> 00:35:50.100 Michael McGuffin: Did you I am. 307 00:35:50.490 --> 00:35:53.430 Michael McGuffin: I asked the question, because I want to say, dear marcella. 308 00:35:54.690 --> 00:35:59.880 Michael McGuffin: And entity is going to meet with mar vista now what i'm going to say is some people. 309 00:36:00.510 --> 00:36:12.210 Michael McGuffin: That I know are going to meet with because I don't really I didn't mean to get into all kinds of constitutional conflict here so some people I know in Venice are going to be at we hope you'll join us yeah. 310 00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:21.810 Ravi Sankaran: yeah yeah and we're i'm actually not calling this someone to del rey and every Council board i'm not even calling this cleanup and official Dr nc event. 311 00:36:22.110 --> 00:36:30.960 Ravi Sankaran: Because what you're talking about because I mean we'd have to go to the board and do emotion all that stuff and so we're just fixing the trees and not calling it an official right right. 312 00:36:31.350 --> 00:36:33.720 Mark Ryavec: Okay, why don't you just use the. 313 00:36:36.210 --> 00:36:37.470 Mark Ryavec: Burden Venice group. 314 00:36:37.830 --> 00:36:40.380 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: huh yeah we could use that as well, either way. 315 00:36:40.470 --> 00:36:47.220 Mark Ryavec: And you're welcome to use than a staikos association a formal nonprofit that has insurance. 316 00:36:48.090 --> 00:36:50.790 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: There you go now you got all kinds of. 317 00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:55.290 Mark Ryavec: happiness now add the V essays name to it if you wanted to but. 318 00:36:55.530 --> 00:36:56.580 Michael McGuffin: Again, you. 319 00:36:57.990 --> 00:37:00.360 Michael McGuffin: know well don't climb any trees okay. 320 00:37:01.680 --> 00:37:02.610 Noel Johnston: Okay, I promise. 321 00:37:02.670 --> 00:37:05.430 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I don't have anybody else to climb a tree unless they want to. 322 00:37:07.650 --> 00:37:17.970 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, so let's can we move on to Isabel would you like to report to us about the tour with city officials that happened this week, and let us know how that went. 323 00:37:19.080 --> 00:37:26.520 Isabelle Duvivier: I would like to but i'm just concerned that we're going to run out of time on our agenda, do you want to say that to the very end if there's time and then I could elaborate. 324 00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:28.830 Isabelle Duvivier: Great tour. 325 00:37:30.240 --> 00:37:43.380 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah I think if we had the time i'd love to go into all kinds of detail about it i'm just afraid that, with a packed agenda and Evan waiting i'd rather just wait to Maybe my announcements okay time allows. 326 00:37:43.410 --> 00:37:43.950 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: that's fine. 327 00:37:44.250 --> 00:37:44.880 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, and. 328 00:37:44.970 --> 00:37:54.030 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And nowhere else you wanna do you want to wait until your announcements for the Chamber event tomorrow as well, and then we can move on to link and fast forward. 329 00:37:55.140 --> 00:37:56.550 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, great so. 330 00:37:56.730 --> 00:37:59.370 Ravi Sankaran: All right, signing off thanks for one year. 331 00:37:59.460 --> 00:37:59.940 Isabelle Duvivier: I ravi. 332 00:38:00.120 --> 00:38:01.380 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: ravi good to see you. 333 00:38:03.570 --> 00:38:05.550 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, so Lincoln fast forward. 334 00:38:07.980 --> 00:38:11.610 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Evan would you like me to charge a header would you like to present. 335 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:23.850 Evan Corrigan: I think you can charge ahead i'd be curious if you know they're more about the watershed stuff you've been working on and what Alan said from caltrans. 336 00:38:24.150 --> 00:38:25.320 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Right okay so. 337 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:34.980 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Just to refresh everyone's memory, as you probably know, Lincoln fast forward as a project that caltrans is engaging in. 338 00:38:35.490 --> 00:38:45.000 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: With la.to improve Lincoln boulevard with a high speed bus lane and a bike lane that's the sort of purview of the project. 339 00:38:45.810 --> 00:38:55.290 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: um and Evan has been as a member of the Committee for parking and transportation interacting with the folks who are doing this project. 340 00:38:56.130 --> 00:39:16.200 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And we did the green our he did the green architecture kind of proposal and motion that we supported and put through the dnc and that was sent off to various interested parties, and unfortunately we got to just positive response from the project manager at caltrans. 341 00:39:17.250 --> 00:39:21.540 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: it's a guy named Alan shim and Alan has been working on this project for quite some time. 342 00:39:22.080 --> 00:39:41.250 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And one of the things that's part of it is they are bringing some of the crosswalks think they're adding a few crosswalks and they are bringing the crosswalks into compliance with Ada rules, so, in addition to having a high speed bus plane and bike lane, there are going to be handicap. 343 00:39:42.630 --> 00:39:51.900 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: ramps that are added at some of these crosswalks, and that is causing a lot of delay because some of these ramps actually encroach on private property. 344 00:39:52.230 --> 00:39:58.230 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So the legal department is of caltrans is having to obtain rights of way for all of those. 345 00:39:58.680 --> 00:40:14.100 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And one of the things I learned from Alan is that there's the delay means that they probably do not will not have the rights of way worked out until December of this year so that was new news to me and i'm presuming that new news to you Evan Is that correct. 346 00:40:15.150 --> 00:40:18.600 Evan Corrigan: yeah but in the Grand scheme of things I think it's not like. 347 00:40:19.080 --> 00:40:21.720 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: got much to get us, yes, I can really give us much. 348 00:40:21.720 --> 00:40:23.970 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Time so, but the the. 349 00:40:24.180 --> 00:40:35.100 Isabelle Duvivier: Can you just clarify real quick what is an example of a right away, do you know exactly are they going to try to eminent domain, a business, so that the what is that. 350 00:40:35.100 --> 00:40:38.550 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Oh, they actually they actually negotiate with every business owner. 351 00:40:38.850 --> 00:40:43.950 Isabelle Duvivier: But what can you give me an example is it like the corner of a building is going to get chopped off or. 352 00:40:44.010 --> 00:40:52.560 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: No, no, no, no it's just that it probably would be the ramp is encroaching upon private property or the or possibly the. 353 00:40:53.820 --> 00:41:10.530 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The construction process will encroached upon private property so let's say just think of Lincoln hardware, for instance, like in hardware owns that parking lot the corner of the parking lot the title that they have might actually run into the sidewalk. 354 00:41:10.950 --> 00:41:17.880 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And then, so what they have to do, I don't know because I didn't get into the specifics just you know kind of projecting. 355 00:41:19.050 --> 00:41:26.460 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And they would have to go to Lincoln hardware, whoever owns that parking lot and say Okay, we need to negotiate with you, and some of the owners are holding out for the most money they can possibly get. 356 00:41:27.390 --> 00:41:36.360 Isabelle Duvivier: I was just hoping they're not going to like take a corner out of one of our brick buildings like like the Lincoln Pal printing palace. 357 00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:37.710 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: There I don't. 358 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:39.450 Isabelle Duvivier: I don't believe in earnings. 359 00:41:39.450 --> 00:41:48.300 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: are at risk, but I did not ask him about that, and specifically because I was really talking to him about planter boxes and the mediums. 360 00:41:48.870 --> 00:42:01.590 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And my one of the things about Evans plan that I think is the most positive from Lincoln boulevard would be to have mediums where the left hand turning lanes are really. 361 00:42:02.310 --> 00:42:11.190 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: too long, you know we don't really need that what we need our trees, and so I was very expressive with Alan and I told him, you know. 362 00:42:11.670 --> 00:42:26.880 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I actually believe that agencies that are responsible for roads are now also responsible for cooling those roads and the really only effective way to do that is to grow large mature shade trees and he said well yeah I can see why you think that and he was actually very. 363 00:42:28.530 --> 00:42:32.910 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Very laughing at me, I am the original Don Quixote tilting at windmills. 364 00:42:34.950 --> 00:42:37.800 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So he said yeah I can see why you think that and. 365 00:42:38.670 --> 00:42:46.080 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Then I asked him So where do you think the utilities are he said, well, most of the utilities on Lincoln boulevard are on the side of the road they're not in the middle. 366 00:42:46.470 --> 00:42:56.100 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So it's likely that you could build medians there, but there are places where the utilities cross the road and so you'd have to have a planner involved. 367 00:42:56.550 --> 00:43:07.260 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So Alan actually I said well who can I talk to you about you know after the caltrans project is completed we're probably going to want to do a project, where we plant. 368 00:43:07.680 --> 00:43:21.390 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: At least planters on the sides in the sidewalk and then plant more trees into every single empty tree well so who can I talk to that's going to be the appropriate person to to. 369 00:43:21.900 --> 00:43:29.220 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: You know, help us with this project, and he actually gave me the right name, so we didn't get that name until today. 370 00:43:30.690 --> 00:43:37.260 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So I haven't had an opportunity to contact this particular person she's a landscape architect in the planning department of caltrans. 371 00:43:38.460 --> 00:43:42.690 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Whether she's going to be the person who is the proper. 372 00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:44.280 Sorry. 373 00:43:46.260 --> 00:43:49.620 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The proper person to contact in the future. 374 00:43:51.240 --> 00:44:04.200 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: it's hard to know, because of caltrans is actually passing the responsibility for this road this corridor back to the city, then it's going to be the city that will have to negotiate with and. 375 00:44:05.700 --> 00:44:08.790 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: that's one of the reasons I know that actually the. 376 00:44:10.020 --> 00:44:13.710 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The answer that we got from my finance office. 377 00:44:15.180 --> 00:44:31.200 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Maybe i'll have you report to us about that, but that answer was actually it's better to talk to the city, rather than caltrans but i'm i'm not convinced about that so Evan why don't you go ahead and tell us about what your experience with my finance office has been. 378 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:33.090 Evan Corrigan: um. 379 00:44:34.170 --> 00:44:49.890 Evan Corrigan: yeah I think they've they've been working with caltrans and La do T and it's like kind of complex each agency has their own restrictions like we are we're kind of seeing that mass right now with the sixth street branch, you know all these different agencies involved. 380 00:44:51.660 --> 00:44:55.950 Evan Corrigan: So he finally got back to me that transportation for Boston and. 381 00:44:57.150 --> 00:45:09.090 Evan Corrigan: You know, said they were working on maybe a gramps for possible cream architecture, after the the caltrans project is complete. 382 00:45:10.680 --> 00:45:14.010 Evan Corrigan: And I don't know, like everything we said about it's kind of. 383 00:45:15.240 --> 00:45:22.890 Evan Corrigan: You know they've just been working really hard to get this project even done with the bus lanes and changing the lane with things like that so. 384 00:45:23.970 --> 00:45:37.110 Evan Corrigan: As Alan said, like it might be best to work on something that will come in, after this link and fast forward project is done so maybe we can like kind of push on working on a plan that would. 385 00:45:38.730 --> 00:45:42.180 Evan Corrigan: Feed feed into like right after this this current. 386 00:45:43.230 --> 00:45:47.040 Evan Corrigan: You know Lincoln fast forward project is complete right. 387 00:45:47.100 --> 00:45:56.850 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And I think I think honestly, now that we know that one of the big parts of the project is to be a da compliant we want that to be completed, so that we are not. 388 00:45:58.050 --> 00:46:05.220 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Making a plan that's not a da compliant because we know that's very important to the city so i'm. 389 00:46:06.180 --> 00:46:09.900 Evan Corrigan: Also, he said, I mean so once the road is in good repair. 390 00:46:11.370 --> 00:46:25.920 Evan Corrigan: it's right it's under caltrans purview now, but once it's in good shape sense eligible to be under city control so that would make things easier, not to do or agency right. 391 00:46:26.520 --> 00:46:28.260 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Isabel do you have a question. 392 00:46:28.950 --> 00:46:36.240 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah I had a question and a comment I, I guess, my question is Sarah when you talk to this a landscape architect, I wonder. 393 00:46:36.780 --> 00:46:54.990 Isabelle Duvivier: If she would be willing to give us a presentation, because I think we'd really love to know, are they making the sidewalk any bigger like what are the actual details we've seen quite a few fluffy diagram diagrams of of it, but I think this group, or maybe we could do a joint. 394 00:46:56.130 --> 00:47:04.620 Isabelle Duvivier: Joint affair, with the transportation committee, but then just in a similar vein. 395 00:47:05.820 --> 00:47:13.230 Isabelle Duvivier: Sarah tried to save a tree from being butchered on Lincoln boulevard yesterday in front of planet. 396 00:47:14.010 --> 00:47:22.020 Isabelle Duvivier: fabric and a year ago, I took pictures of a casita being butchered in front of the tire store. 397 00:47:22.650 --> 00:47:27.960 Isabelle Duvivier: And, coincidentally enough when we were on the tour with urban forestry this week. 398 00:47:28.350 --> 00:47:37.980 Isabelle Duvivier: As we were driving down Lincoln boulevard I said to hector you know, this is a problem i've talked to you about for a while we really need these cassius to be pruned. 399 00:47:38.310 --> 00:47:45.930 Isabelle Duvivier: Because they're really leggy and now that they're in full bloom you can just see how heavy the blossoms are and people just butcher them. 400 00:47:46.410 --> 00:47:59.040 Isabelle Duvivier: And he said yes, I can send me send me this information right away, so I sent him my request yesterday and his response back to me today was this is caltrans. 401 00:47:59.820 --> 00:48:13.380 Isabelle Duvivier: We can't cut those trees so and this the cutting the trimming of these trees, I would say is urgent, so if you could maybe use that as a way to. 402 00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:26.430 Isabelle Duvivier: find the right person to La caltrans and then maybe use that as an opportunity in opening, but it really is urgent, these trees are just going to get systematically butcher throughout this. 403 00:48:26.730 --> 00:48:42.990 Isabelle Duvivier: summer season, because they just looked terrific and they're really big and and their lady is super leggy and the city would do a really great job pruning them up so that they'd be up above the signs right now they're covering the signs are covering the sidewalks. 404 00:48:46.020 --> 00:48:54.930 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, thank you for that idea, I will say I think and Evan can speak to this, I think that they've already made the presentation to us that they're going to make. 405 00:48:55.560 --> 00:49:13.200 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: regard to the details of the plans, however, I don't I, I attended the transportation meeting Evan that you ran way back when all of the different city and state players were there and I don't remember them actually showing us plans. 406 00:49:13.950 --> 00:49:17.850 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: street and what they were going to do, did they actually show us that at the time. 407 00:49:18.870 --> 00:49:19.350 Evan Corrigan: yeah. 408 00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:19.860 They do. 409 00:49:21.030 --> 00:49:23.220 Evan Corrigan: A gram of the lanes. 410 00:49:24.690 --> 00:49:26.010 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah so we have that. 411 00:49:26.940 --> 00:49:29.340 Isabelle Duvivier: Are they are they making the side wants wider. 412 00:49:29.370 --> 00:49:32.790 Evan Corrigan: Because that's My main question I don't think so there's like. 413 00:49:33.330 --> 00:49:34.290 Isabelle Duvivier: A curb at all. 414 00:49:35.790 --> 00:49:38.850 Mark Ryavec: The change are they making them narrower. 415 00:49:39.810 --> 00:49:40.710 Evan Corrigan: The sidewalks know. 416 00:49:41.130 --> 00:49:42.720 Mark Ryavec: i've walks and parkway combined. 417 00:49:43.680 --> 00:49:44.010 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Now. 418 00:49:44.310 --> 00:49:47.610 Mark Ryavec: So they're not impose anything on and went. 419 00:49:48.150 --> 00:49:49.710 Isabelle Duvivier: From the right away and. 420 00:49:49.950 --> 00:49:59.970 Mark Ryavec: visible when you're talking about installing I believe planters in the median I didn't understand where are you talking about race planters. 421 00:50:00.450 --> 00:50:10.860 Mark Ryavec: Are you just talking about exposing dirt so that you can plant or a median like they have a few places like on fourth street in Santa Monica or they have on ocean. 422 00:50:12.030 --> 00:50:13.620 Mark Ryavec: In the hotel district. 423 00:50:13.770 --> 00:50:14.010 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah. 424 00:50:14.160 --> 00:50:21.030 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I still ocean between Lincoln and i'm mainstreet in Santa Monica has the. 425 00:50:21.030 --> 00:50:22.530 Isabelle Duvivier: tissue apartments yeah. 426 00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:24.600 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Sorry ocean Park, thank you. 427 00:50:24.630 --> 00:50:26.490 Mark Ryavec: yeah she's on a medium where you could. 428 00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:27.270 Isabelle Duvivier: Plant. 429 00:50:27.810 --> 00:50:29.940 Mark Ryavec: A tree hedges or you're talking about actually planting. 430 00:50:29.970 --> 00:50:32.160 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: trees trees real trees. 431 00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:36.450 Mark Ryavec: But how is there gonna be any space if they're. 432 00:50:38.490 --> 00:50:42.330 Mark Ryavec: Putting in both a bike lane and putting in a bus lane. 433 00:50:44.130 --> 00:50:51.810 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: If you if you look actually i'm Evan gave us a great presentation and I think you might have been missing that day but. 434 00:50:52.620 --> 00:50:57.330 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Evan do you have your diagram do you want to pull it up real quick, so we can show mark. 435 00:50:57.870 --> 00:51:15.420 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: it's some actually what Evan did was ingenious he and Robert tiptoe who heads up the park and transportation committee they went, they looked at Lincoln and they found two different things they found every empty tree well and they mark those empty tree wells for planting trees. 436 00:51:16.050 --> 00:51:28.530 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And then they marched the portions when you drive down Lincoln there is an ongoing what we call the suicide lane, all the way down the length of Lincoln between Commonwealth and Venice. 437 00:51:29.550 --> 00:51:41.220 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And that suicide lane typically you would use it to turn left right when you're getting ready to turn that, but the suicide line is way longer than it needs to be you only need a left hand turning lane of. 438 00:51:41.970 --> 00:51:55.050 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Maybe two cars into most of those residential streets you don't want to major streets like rose, yes, you need more room, but on to Marco or supreme I mean super uber. 439 00:51:55.110 --> 00:52:14.970 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: uber you only need you know the length of one or two cars, so the rest of that suicide lane could actually become a full on going down into the ground medium like we have on Venice boulevard That was the proposal now Lincoln is definitely narrow than Venice boulevard is by a long shot. 440 00:52:15.990 --> 00:52:20.460 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So, whether or not you know someone who does the traffic studies could. 441 00:52:21.570 --> 00:52:23.160 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: You know, find. 442 00:52:24.270 --> 00:52:30.480 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: That this is enough space I don't know, because this is definitely outside of my well higher than my big right. 443 00:52:32.040 --> 00:52:45.090 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: But that was what the original proposal was is that now we could leave the medians aside and simply do real you know gorgeous planters that have. 444 00:52:45.600 --> 00:53:03.900 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Large mature trees, and the reason why I think that we could possibly find the money for this is that the metro water district has quite large grants hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of grants for anything that will help with one off. 445 00:53:04.530 --> 00:53:06.030 Mark Ryavec: and run off right. 446 00:53:06.090 --> 00:53:28.380 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: runoff runoff and any open planter or any medium that has you know cuts into where water could be collected certainly can be helpful in this regard, so this would be a long you know big project that we would need to attack what I did find out, initially, is that the grant. 447 00:53:29.910 --> 00:53:45.120 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The grant is complex and it requires quite a bit of work to apply for and the deadline has just passed us and it's a yearly grant process, so we wouldn't be able to apply for the grant for that particular grant until next summer I believe. 448 00:53:45.180 --> 00:53:49.440 Mark Ryavec: Who was we who would be the body applying. 449 00:53:49.890 --> 00:53:51.750 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: that's exactly that's exactly what we need. 450 00:53:51.900 --> 00:53:52.410 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: to figure out. 451 00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:54.870 Mark Ryavec: I don't think that you're that our committee can. 452 00:53:56.040 --> 00:54:00.150 Mark Ryavec: The vedanta Venice hasn't been incorporated association. 453 00:54:01.650 --> 00:54:06.000 Mark Ryavec: I don't know whether they you'd have standing, but you can certainly ask caltrans that question. 454 00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:06.810 Mark Ryavec: as well. 455 00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:15.420 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Natural the Chamber the Chamber of Commerce might have standards, and that is the parents of the vg. 456 00:54:15.660 --> 00:54:16.410 Mark Ryavec: Right um. 457 00:54:16.470 --> 00:54:22.410 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And the Chamber actually is kind of an appropriate organization to to take this on. 458 00:54:23.430 --> 00:54:32.190 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I mean I, I am very passionate about Lincoln boulevard I think it is the street in desperate need of care and. 459 00:54:32.970 --> 00:54:34.650 Mark Ryavec: Unification has great potential. 460 00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:42.840 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: It has amazing potential, and it is one of the major thoroughfares that people who visit Los Angeles will first see and quite honestly it's an embarrassment at the. 461 00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:45.960 Mark Ryavec: moment you have you given any any thought to. 462 00:54:47.220 --> 00:54:53.040 Mark Ryavec: Putting in simply larger priests on on the sidewalks. 463 00:54:53.550 --> 00:54:53.820 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah. 464 00:54:53.850 --> 00:54:55.470 Mark Ryavec: I mean that we're always as opposed to. 465 00:54:55.650 --> 00:55:00.960 Mark Ryavec: Trying to compete with traffic and buses and so forth by doing a median. 466 00:55:01.260 --> 00:55:16.770 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Well, one of the issues on Lincoln boulevard is that we have overhead very substantial utilities, and so one of the issues is that they will not the city will not plant trees that they see is. 467 00:55:17.490 --> 00:55:20.400 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Competing intentionally large trees they've they've. 468 00:55:20.640 --> 00:55:29.010 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: planted you know willingly they planted those Chinese golden rain trees, the cassius and they're beautiful. 469 00:55:29.850 --> 00:55:35.160 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: But they honestly I have been really vulnerable to being chopped way back. 470 00:55:35.700 --> 00:55:43.110 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And unless the city starts either plants mature trees and then it's very clear with the businesses there that okay. 471 00:55:43.410 --> 00:55:49.830 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: These trees are going to beautify your street, but you cannot chop them down, you need to allow the city to prune them. 472 00:55:50.370 --> 00:56:03.390 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: You know that that that would have to be the entire plan would have to be both planting architecture maintenance maintenance and stakeholder relations because. 473 00:56:03.930 --> 00:56:10.050 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: While I have to say my stakeholder relations experience yesterday was quite for um. 474 00:56:10.740 --> 00:56:26.340 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I do think that that's an essential approach that needs to be taken right you've got to you have to list everybody and making the street, a better place or they're just going to continue to cowboy it, which is what's happening now anyway so mark, it does that answer your question. 475 00:56:28.680 --> 00:56:29.370 Mark Ryavec: Oh yes. 476 00:56:31.110 --> 00:56:32.190 Mark Ryavec: Thank you, and as. 477 00:56:32.970 --> 00:56:33.690 Mark Ryavec: You haven't could just. 478 00:56:34.170 --> 00:56:39.570 Mark Ryavec: email me if it's a PDF of the of the plan so we don't pick any more time here. 479 00:56:40.110 --> 00:56:45.750 Evan Corrigan: yeah so I just emailed you the the streets cross view that they're planning. 480 00:56:46.050 --> 00:56:46.500 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay. 481 00:56:47.130 --> 00:56:49.020 Evan Corrigan: An overhead view, if you want to for that. 482 00:56:49.980 --> 00:56:55.260 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, I can just open it up and then share it on my and I can forward it as well. 483 00:56:55.950 --> 00:56:58.020 Evan Corrigan: My other thing was gonna bring up is. 484 00:56:59.130 --> 00:57:03.660 Evan Corrigan: If we're going to kind of work towards this after that it currently can fast forward plan. 485 00:57:04.680 --> 00:57:09.000 Evan Corrigan: But you know, probably with the next CD 11 transportation director. 486 00:57:09.570 --> 00:57:16.740 Evan Corrigan: hmm unity associated is this watership grant something that they would take on. 487 00:57:18.780 --> 00:57:21.150 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: You know that's a really interesting question. 488 00:57:22.350 --> 00:57:35.250 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Evan and I have been you know kind of chatting casually about this together, and one of the next steps we were going to take, and you guys can all tell us what you think about this was that we were going to start to approach the the candidates for dd 11. 489 00:57:36.120 --> 00:57:39.900 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: there's only two of them now, since the runoff has already been determined. 490 00:57:41.040 --> 00:57:48.060 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And you know Tracy I have a little bit of a relationship with Tracy and Evan was going to try to see if he could approach Aaron. 491 00:57:49.290 --> 00:57:55.980 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: we've been working we've had some emails back and forth or Evan has with his name Eric What is his first name. 492 00:57:56.070 --> 00:57:57.750 Mark Ryavec: you're hearing darling. 493 00:57:58.200 --> 00:58:00.390 Evan Corrigan: Know Eric burns on CD 11. 494 00:58:01.170 --> 00:58:02.850 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Oh he's the transportation. 495 00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:12.840 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Expert there so um So what do you think mark is that, like if if we went to them and said hey we're willing to spearhead this will you. 496 00:58:12.930 --> 00:58:13.650 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: be the. 497 00:58:13.710 --> 00:58:16.020 Mark Ryavec: Bigger issue is is talking to. 498 00:58:17.310 --> 00:58:20.790 Mark Ryavec: Is it the metros the one that's offering these grants. 499 00:58:21.810 --> 00:58:24.240 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: it's it's metro water districts so. 500 00:58:24.510 --> 00:58:26.040 Mark Ryavec: Emma to Poland water district. 501 00:58:26.190 --> 00:58:34.290 Mark Ryavec: yeah i'm is asking them if the grants are available to municipalities in addition to nonprofits. 502 00:58:34.950 --> 00:58:35.340 Right. 503 00:58:36.390 --> 00:58:38.880 Mark Ryavec: that's the question not not whether the. 504 00:58:39.930 --> 00:58:44.760 Mark Ryavec: The Council office will initiate a grant application. 505 00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:46.110 Mark Ryavec: But. 506 00:58:47.460 --> 00:58:50.580 Mark Ryavec: What la metro is literally. 507 00:58:50.820 --> 00:58:51.960 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: About to yeah. 508 00:58:52.440 --> 00:59:00.720 Mark Ryavec: In their guidelines i'm sure that it's an easy question for an information officer to answer yeah and then, if that's if if they are available to municipalities. 509 00:59:02.100 --> 00:59:12.120 Mark Ryavec: And I would I would think that they probably would be, then you want to go to the in the the two Council candidates. 510 00:59:14.040 --> 00:59:32.820 Mark Ryavec: and ask them whether they make it a priority for their incoming transportation director to initiate the city, not the Council district itself that would be the city itself applying to the metropolitan water district right or grant that would be the critical path. 511 00:59:33.900 --> 00:59:34.290 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Right. 512 00:59:36.240 --> 00:59:38.850 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Is that the way we think that would be best handled. 513 00:59:41.790 --> 00:59:43.590 Mark Ryavec: interesting question because. 514 00:59:44.850 --> 00:59:53.520 Mark Ryavec: The if the city gets it then they automatically have a right to go in, for example, put in a median that would. 515 00:59:57.150 --> 01:00:04.650 Mark Ryavec: Allow the draining of a rainwater you know into it and Rican and recharge and all that. 516 01:00:05.940 --> 01:00:20.730 Mark Ryavec: Whereas if the Chamber, for example, fly to do it, they would then have to go and get permits from the city to be very complicated and time consuming so you almost want the city of La to be to take the lead and certainly. 517 01:00:23.430 --> 01:00:36.120 Mark Ryavec: A Council deputy in CD 11 would be the one to make that happen, I used to sit up as staff for the board of grants administration for the city of Los Angeles, so the capacities got a. 518 01:00:37.140 --> 01:00:37.830 Mark Ryavec: well. 519 01:00:39.810 --> 01:00:45.150 Mark Ryavec: tuned operation for applying for grants from various. 520 01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:51.510 Mark Ryavec: feds the state conceivably the county metropolitan water district so. 521 01:00:53.790 --> 01:00:59.370 Mark Ryavec: Getting the city to take that on to make a change in their own space makes a bit more sense than. 522 01:01:00.930 --> 01:01:13.950 Mark Ryavec: All you can talk to him years about it, because you know he got $400,000 went to the Venice Action Committee and came from caltrans and all the trees, you see out there, not just those boulevard but. 523 01:01:15.990 --> 01:01:19.980 Mark Ryavec: Throughout Venice we're all i'm planted. 524 01:01:21.030 --> 01:01:22.650 Mark Ryavec: In the public space. 525 01:01:24.420 --> 01:01:25.260 Mark Ryavec: In parkways. 526 01:01:25.710 --> 01:01:27.420 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Where did the grant come from Do you remember. 527 01:01:27.450 --> 01:01:28.110 Mark Ryavec: caltrans. 528 01:01:28.350 --> 01:01:32.340 Mark Ryavec: It did yeah there, there was a requirement that 1%. 529 01:01:33.900 --> 01:01:34.860 Mark Ryavec: Of the. 530 01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:42.570 Mark Ryavec: of any caltrans project has to be spent on planting trees and ground cover. 531 01:01:45.330 --> 01:01:51.120 Mark Ryavec: And I was on the board in Venice actually the Venice Action Committee, as was Jim as we're. 532 01:01:53.550 --> 01:01:59.400 Mark Ryavec: Kaufman but we just rubber stamped with Jim did GMO. 533 01:01:59.490 --> 01:02:02.790 Mark Ryavec: yep Joe the application got $400,000. 534 01:02:03.420 --> 01:02:07.200 Mark Ryavec: It came to us, and I think that we, at the time were illegal nonprofit. 535 01:02:08.520 --> 01:02:10.500 Mark Ryavec: week to week qualified to apply. 536 01:02:11.520 --> 01:02:15.210 Mark Ryavec: um and then Jim basically ran ran with it. 537 01:02:15.720 --> 01:02:17.610 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Right, so I have a question. 538 01:02:17.940 --> 01:02:25.290 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: You just said that there was a requirement at the time that any caltrans project had to spend 1% of the project money's on planting trees. 539 01:02:25.530 --> 01:02:29.700 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Right this requirement gone away because they're doing this project without planting any trees. 540 01:02:30.570 --> 01:02:31.170 um. 541 01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:43.140 Mark Ryavec: It was a former assemblyman Richard cats that got that provision put in the law i'm cats are still around but My guess is that. 542 01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:46.650 Mark Ryavec: Our Assembly person. 543 01:02:49.830 --> 01:02:51.480 Mark Ryavec: Who is our Assembly person right now. 544 01:02:53.040 --> 01:02:56.040 Mark Ryavec: I think we're still in a run off or who are assembly person is. 545 01:02:57.060 --> 01:02:57.690 Mark Ryavec: i'm. 546 01:02:59.400 --> 01:02:59.880 Mark Ryavec: Trying to think. 547 01:02:59.940 --> 01:03:00.630 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Maybe it's. 548 01:03:00.660 --> 01:03:02.880 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Maybe it's time for me to dig in and figure out whether that. 549 01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:11.910 Mark Ryavec: Be billed as caltrans somebody a caltrans who's the project director said hey when you spend $4 million to. 550 01:03:13.200 --> 01:03:20.040 Mark Ryavec: widen Venice boulevard from Lincoln to the ocean, you had to spend 1% on trees. 551 01:03:21.090 --> 01:03:22.740 Mark Ryavec: doesn't that last it was bought. 552 01:03:23.490 --> 01:03:25.800 Mark Ryavec: By out that they roll that law back. 553 01:03:27.510 --> 01:03:41.130 Mark Ryavec: So the question is, does it mean that they have to spend that money internally or whether it's automatically available to municipalities and or nonprofits to apply for you know I don't know but. 554 01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:48.030 Mark Ryavec: it's easy for you to shoot Jim your as an email he probably knows whether that's still. 555 01:03:49.620 --> 01:03:50.220 Mark Ryavec: In the law. 556 01:03:50.670 --> 01:03:52.350 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Right okay great. 557 01:03:52.380 --> 01:04:01.620 Mark Ryavec: That would give you a lot of you wouldn't have to that would be the tree part of it um, but you can also combine it with a caltrans grab. 558 01:04:04.080 --> 01:04:08.700 Mark Ryavec: The metropolitan water district grand right that's what i'm thinking is yours, I am wd. 559 01:04:09.210 --> 01:04:12.990 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Right so Barry you've had your hand up for quite some time. 560 01:04:13.170 --> 01:04:24.750 Barry Campion: yeah it's just i'm not in the you know the weeds here with like you all are and figuring out the departments and how it's going to work, but just kind of from an overview. 561 01:04:25.350 --> 01:04:37.440 Barry Campion: I think it's a shame to let this fast forward plan happen and then have the greening part happen later It really seems to me that they should happen together. 562 01:04:37.650 --> 01:04:38.970 Mark Ryavec: I absolutely agree. 563 01:04:39.210 --> 01:04:51.750 Barry Campion: it's just they're going to put in infrastructure they're going to do all this stuff and then you have another plan that comes along so that's in the way, or we have to redo this or It really should be a master plan and fought for we've done and. 564 01:04:52.230 --> 01:04:53.790 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Well, absolutely. 565 01:04:53.850 --> 01:04:54.810 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We agree. 566 01:04:54.840 --> 01:05:03.990 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We agree Evan and I have come to the conclusion that it's already been they've already done, the planner at 100% development already I mean 100% design. 567 01:05:04.590 --> 01:05:05.340 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Right and. 568 01:05:05.460 --> 01:05:12.450 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: um they've already they're already working on the right of way projects, right to the legal department is doing its work. 569 01:05:12.870 --> 01:05:15.900 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We have basically the last step that they go through. 570 01:05:16.200 --> 01:05:21.090 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah only way I mean I just don't think we can force them to do anything different unless. 571 01:05:21.150 --> 01:05:22.410 We literally like having me. 572 01:05:23.580 --> 01:05:36.330 Barry Campion: You know more informal if there is such a thing like maybe it's a green overlay or maybe it's like a part B, but some something that that the two of. 573 01:05:37.380 --> 01:05:43.380 Barry Campion: You know that everybody's talking to each other, communicating with each other, so when things happen. 574 01:05:44.010 --> 01:06:01.590 Barry Campion: You know if they're dealing with a water line oh we're going to need some irrigation for some trees later let's let's delay that just just on a purely money practical let's make this thing work kind of level, but again I I appreciate the. 575 01:06:02.730 --> 01:06:09.450 Barry Campion: You know the complexity of how all these departments don't talk to each other and. 576 01:06:11.220 --> 01:06:12.180 Barry Campion: it's difficult. 577 01:06:12.510 --> 01:06:18.480 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah so so anyway, I think, the one thing that you said mark and Evan. 578 01:06:19.500 --> 01:06:31.440 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: You may agree with me on this, if they are not following the law, and we can go to them and say hey we found this log you actually need to devote 1% of the budget on this project to trees. 579 01:06:32.040 --> 01:06:39.990 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: handed over that might be the only way we really can get caltrans to go back to their design and change the design. 580 01:06:40.890 --> 01:06:42.060 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: But other than that. 581 01:06:42.150 --> 01:06:42.630 Mark Ryavec: Let me ask. 582 01:06:42.690 --> 01:06:46.260 Mark Ryavec: Hard let me ask a clarifying question I hope of heaven. 583 01:06:47.490 --> 01:06:50.160 Mark Ryavec: It sounds like all they're doing is re striping. 584 01:06:51.210 --> 01:06:58.950 Mark Ryavec: and adding curb cuts for this disabled don't have the only things sounds like you're doing Am I wrong. 585 01:07:01.230 --> 01:07:01.950 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: diagram. 586 01:07:07.500 --> 01:07:13.140 Evan Corrigan: I don't think they're touching the sidewalk except for a few Ada curve ramps but. 587 01:07:14.970 --> 01:07:20.400 Evan Corrigan: So those bus bike share lanes and will be active during rush hour times only. 588 01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:25.920 Evan Corrigan: and basically they're fitting those in by narrowing the lane with with. 589 01:07:27.720 --> 01:07:28.950 Evan Corrigan: two feet each. 590 01:07:30.900 --> 01:07:35.370 Evan Corrigan: So that's pretty much just reese raping there I think they're. 591 01:07:36.240 --> 01:07:37.650 Mark Ryavec: All leaving all the parking. 592 01:07:39.240 --> 01:07:43.140 Evan Corrigan: parking will be that 13 foot lane. 593 01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:47.910 Evan Corrigan: Except for rush hour times, where i'll become a bus only lane. 594 01:07:52.170 --> 01:07:54.120 Mark Ryavec: i'm not seeing a 13 foot. 595 01:07:55.050 --> 01:07:57.240 Mark Ryavec: Can you see my creed okay. 596 01:07:58.680 --> 01:08:17.640 Evan Corrigan: parking lane and just just during rush hour times, but I think seven to 9am going southbound or northbound I forget which way, and then on the opposite side in the evening from four to 7pm that lane will switch so there will always be Atlanta parking open. 597 01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:23.010 Evan Corrigan: During those rush hour times if i'm if i'm explaining it right. 598 01:08:24.300 --> 01:08:24.750 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah. 599 01:08:25.200 --> 01:08:25.710 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So it. 600 01:08:26.340 --> 01:08:27.990 Mark Ryavec: will be taking the. 601 01:08:29.280 --> 01:08:32.220 Mark Ryavec: parking will disappear during rush hour. 602 01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:35.490 Evan Corrigan: One lane of parking will disappear during rush hour. 603 01:08:36.510 --> 01:08:40.860 Evan Corrigan: And then the vice versa, for the you know you mean can you look like. 604 01:08:41.820 --> 01:08:42.900 Mark Ryavec: Cross section i'm wondering if. 605 01:08:44.940 --> 01:08:46.410 Mark Ryavec: there's only drive lanes during. 606 01:08:48.030 --> 01:08:55.950 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Look look down below the bottom, can you see the bottom, to the top is what's existing and the bottom is the proposed. 607 01:08:56.490 --> 01:08:56.940 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Right. 608 01:08:57.540 --> 01:08:59.220 Barry Campion: Right so only parking. 609 01:09:00.750 --> 01:09:12.510 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So that the where the bucket bike and bustling is presently the red with the red zone that's going to be parking during non rush hour. 610 01:09:12.570 --> 01:09:17.220 Mark Ryavec: Right that's what i'm in right now the parking disappears during rush hour correct. 611 01:09:17.460 --> 01:09:19.050 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And the rush hour is only. 612 01:09:19.860 --> 01:09:21.210 Mark Ryavec: This is a so. 613 01:09:21.360 --> 01:09:23.070 Mark Ryavec: This is all so. 614 01:09:27.030 --> 01:09:28.860 Mark Ryavec: All they're doing is a lot of re striping. 615 01:09:29.220 --> 01:09:32.250 Mark Ryavec: yeah and and installing some curb cuts. 616 01:09:32.280 --> 01:09:34.020 Isabelle Duvivier: For the table mm hmm. 617 01:09:34.350 --> 01:09:34.800 So. 618 01:09:36.540 --> 01:09:36.810 I. 619 01:09:38.310 --> 01:09:39.510 Mark Ryavec: there's no construction here. 620 01:09:40.050 --> 01:09:41.940 Isabelle Duvivier: No i'm not sure that there's going to be. 621 01:09:42.810 --> 01:09:44.010 Mark Ryavec: what's 1% of. 622 01:09:45.120 --> 01:09:45.630 Isabelle Duvivier: i'm. 623 01:09:45.750 --> 01:09:46.710 Mark Ryavec: Not gonna be a lot of money. 624 01:09:47.670 --> 01:09:49.320 Evan Corrigan: repaving the street as well. 625 01:09:49.380 --> 01:09:50.280 Barry Campion: Well, that that means. 626 01:09:51.180 --> 01:09:54.870 Barry Campion: To repaid, and then that you know that's. 627 01:09:54.900 --> 01:10:03.510 Mark Ryavec: Well it's it's it's worth asking what's the total projected budget and where's the 1%. 628 01:10:05.580 --> 01:10:06.330 Mark Ryavec: And it may be. 629 01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:18.660 Mark Ryavec: routine repaving and curb cuts qualified remember the way back when 20 years ago when they did Venice boulevard is $4 million, which is. 630 01:10:19.890 --> 01:10:22.830 Mark Ryavec: Probably three times that in today's dollars, maybe more. 631 01:10:25.050 --> 01:10:25.980 Mark Ryavec: it's worth asking for. 632 01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:40.560 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Right so okay well that's great so the the the other questions, I mean the questions that I had asked of them was you know where do you think the infrastructure is and he did not say that they were not doing any construction at all. 633 01:10:41.760 --> 01:10:43.590 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So i'm going to ask him about that. 634 01:10:45.390 --> 01:10:50.760 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And he's been very open, we had a really quite friendly and lovely conversation. 635 01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:58.590 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So I think he'd be open to just chatting with me for another 15 minutes if we come up with more questions i'm Isabelle. 636 01:11:00.030 --> 01:11:06.180 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah, I guess, I want to ask you guys a question is caltrans a State Agency. 637 01:11:06.330 --> 01:11:31.650 Isabelle Duvivier: Yes, so just measure w apply to them at all and I guess maybe it sounds as though there's not a whole lot we can do until it becomes city of La and then the mobility plan would apply, so we would have to consider bike lanes and then we can consider applying for measure w funds. 638 01:11:34.620 --> 01:11:36.810 Isabelle Duvivier: It just sounds kind of abysmal. 639 01:11:38.190 --> 01:11:41.700 Isabelle Duvivier: debbie measure w is a county you know voter. 640 01:11:42.120 --> 01:11:48.690 Isabelle Duvivier: Past initiative there's continuous funding indefinitely to do. 641 01:11:49.890 --> 01:11:58.470 Isabelle Duvivier: It water infiltration projects, so this would be a prime candidate it's at the bottom of a watershed it used to be a creek parts of Lincoln used to. 642 01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:11.580 Isabelle Duvivier: Flood over, especially over by ocean park and Pico by pen more which used to be a lake so you know rose avenue it's all this beautiful. 643 01:12:12.060 --> 01:12:27.810 Isabelle Duvivier: connector that we could try to get measure w funds but, and I think until we wrestle it away from caltrans and I don't know how they are as partners so Sarah you're I think your main job is to see how good they are as partners. 644 01:12:28.470 --> 01:12:33.990 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Well, and I also I mean so far we haven't really done anything at all we've just had one. 645 01:12:33.990 --> 01:12:34.200 Isabelle Duvivier: or two. 646 01:12:34.260 --> 01:12:38.310 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: conversations Evan you've been in contact with them more. 647 01:12:42.390 --> 01:12:48.360 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah so Evans conclusion has been Oh, we kind of need to wait until caltrans is out of the way. 648 01:12:48.930 --> 01:12:59.430 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: um but the honest truth is is that my experience has been the city government is less organized the State Government and the state government is less organized than the feds right so. 649 01:13:00.060 --> 01:13:07.560 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: If you want to work with people who are going to push things through, and make things happen it's best to work with the Federal Government, but if you can't work with them, then. 650 01:13:07.770 --> 01:13:18.000 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: You can work with the state government, if you can't work with them, then you work with the city and you do have a lot of relationships in the city is about so that might be the best group but. 651 01:13:19.830 --> 01:13:26.280 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: i'm going to ask these questions that have arisen of Alan i'll have another telephone conversation with him and. 652 01:13:27.330 --> 01:13:37.410 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And i'm going to find out to measure w is a county initiative is that related to the wi fi grants that the water district is getting out. 653 01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:40.380 Isabelle Duvivier: Know they're different they're different. 654 01:13:41.940 --> 01:13:57.630 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah okay right I sure w they're just doing a lot of large infrastructure projects across the city, mostly and disadvantaged communities they're doing the slawson water infiltration project or doing one on Jefferson. 655 01:13:59.430 --> 01:14:11.580 Isabelle Duvivier: they're doing it they're basically creating permeable planter boxes and permeable parkways kind of like we saw in ocean park not nearly as lovely they're. 656 01:14:12.480 --> 01:14:23.070 Isabelle Duvivier: Cheap down, I would say quite honestly they're kind of packaged engineered solutions that aren't super creative, but obviously if they came to Venice, we would. 657 01:14:23.580 --> 01:14:34.080 Isabelle Duvivier: help it become way more creative project more like ocean Park, or like where we went over in Santa Monica on long fella and navy, that would be you know a great model. 658 01:14:35.730 --> 01:14:36.090 Mark Ryavec: yeah. 659 01:14:36.150 --> 01:14:42.180 Mark Ryavec: Well, back to the right now and Evan has this is there any reason why we don't we like it just. 660 01:14:43.680 --> 01:14:44.790 Mark Ryavec: Right short motion. 661 01:14:45.270 --> 01:14:48.960 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We already did we yeah we passed the motion supporting this. 662 01:14:49.080 --> 01:14:52.290 Mark Ryavec: Why don't, we have to then send it to the nc and send it to. 663 01:14:52.530 --> 01:14:53.370 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We already did. 664 01:14:53.970 --> 01:14:54.630 Evan Corrigan: We already did. 665 01:14:55.260 --> 01:14:57.750 Mark Ryavec: Sorry, I was probably better than meeting. 666 01:14:58.230 --> 01:14:59.730 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: It was a couple months ago. 667 01:14:59.820 --> 01:15:01.050 Mark Ryavec: And then gradually. 668 01:15:01.650 --> 01:15:02.550 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: It was a guest. 669 01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:04.920 Mark Ryavec: I was in probably in Chile Peru. 670 01:15:05.490 --> 01:15:05.940 Isabelle Duvivier: Well that's. 671 01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:20.250 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Good yeah it was passed by the dmc and it was sent onward In fact I think Alan shim the project manager at caltrans that i'm speaking i've been speaking to has received this, and this is just one piece of it actually. 672 01:15:21.030 --> 01:15:30.450 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: To Evans credit to Robert its credit, as well, they did the entire length of the project, which is spans between Commonwealth and Venice boulevard is that right Evan. 673 01:15:32.610 --> 01:15:34.050 Evan Corrigan: Common role to seal. 674 01:15:34.530 --> 01:15:37.050 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: lucille okay so lucille is. 675 01:15:38.370 --> 01:15:39.570 Evan Corrigan: pretty much Venice boulevard. 676 01:15:40.020 --> 01:15:49.200 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: it's one block north of Venice right so um so you know this kind of shows exactly what I was thinking of is that this this. 677 01:15:50.490 --> 01:16:02.820 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Center could and and the way that Evan has this portrayed is that there was not going to be a tree in the Center, but in fact it's an amazing opportunity for trees, because as i've been told by Alan. 678 01:16:02.850 --> 01:16:05.190 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The infrastructure is not under the Center of the street. 679 01:16:05.220 --> 01:16:19.710 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: it's on the sides of the street and the above ground utilities are also not in the Center of the street and on the side of the street, so the Center of the street, even though this is a more narrow street is really a great opportunity um. 680 01:16:21.420 --> 01:16:27.810 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: You know I don't know if anybody else you know some of the mediums that we've seen around the city, because they didn't have irrigation. 681 01:16:28.350 --> 01:16:38.880 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The trees didn't do so well so as you're pointing out Barry maybe it's time for them to like pull some aggregation and just put it there, so it's ready to go. 682 01:16:39.690 --> 01:16:42.660 Mark Ryavec: Just Italian stone ponds don't need an irrigation. 683 01:16:44.970 --> 01:16:48.330 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: In the beginning, they will, though they need, you know. 684 01:16:49.380 --> 01:16:50.730 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: They need a little bit of help. 685 01:16:51.090 --> 01:16:52.020 Barry Campion: Oh no yeah. 686 01:16:52.650 --> 01:16:54.120 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah and. 687 01:16:54.600 --> 01:17:08.040 Isabelle Duvivier: In the meantime, a David miranda's said that he would find the person that caltrans that we could talk to about pruning the trees and maybe we could sort of have a separate side conversation and. 688 01:17:09.390 --> 01:17:16.800 Isabelle Duvivier: Maybe we don't even have to jump through maybe we could just propose they put some trees on one block and see what happens. 689 01:17:18.240 --> 01:17:25.740 Isabelle Duvivier: Instead of making it part of a whole big deal okay well we're having these separate conversations about tree care. 690 01:17:27.690 --> 01:17:28.170 Isabelle Duvivier: Maybe. 691 01:17:32.220 --> 01:17:36.270 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So that caltrans is typically not care for the trees at all is that correct. 692 01:17:38.700 --> 01:17:39.450 Isabelle Duvivier: I don't know. 693 01:17:39.870 --> 01:17:43.680 Barry Campion: i've never seen a tree cared for our meeting. 694 01:17:47.310 --> 01:17:56.310 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, so I think enough about Lincoln We certainly have a lot of time let's move on to the next subject unless anybody has any last comments. 695 01:18:00.930 --> 01:18:05.700 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, great okay so and thank you so much, everyone for attending and. 696 01:18:06.060 --> 01:18:08.010 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Bringing your docs with you, I actually. 697 01:18:08.010 --> 01:18:10.230 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Do have your documents to thank you so much. 698 01:18:10.410 --> 01:18:10.860 work. 699 01:18:12.150 --> 01:18:20.910 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: But I do think that we have a lot of work cut out for us if you really want to make this happen, and I think probably the first thing to do is to get those meetings with the. 700 01:18:23.370 --> 01:18:32.610 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The existing CD 11 transportation guy and then you and I Evan we should both trying to get meetings i'd like to get a meeting with them. 701 01:18:33.930 --> 01:18:37.230 Evan Corrigan: yeah you know so that will be working. 702 01:18:37.680 --> 01:18:45.600 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, actually, it was suggested Isabel had suggested, maybe we should have those candidates come and speak to us about their. 703 01:18:46.050 --> 01:18:58.170 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Loss of neon trees, so we can also give them that opportunity and then, if that's the case then will publicize it, you know well ahead of time and try to get all of the folks that are in our brief kind of overview can come. 704 01:18:59.730 --> 01:19:08.940 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, so um wow That was a lot, what was the name of the guy David who's going to help me find the caltrans person is about. 705 01:19:09.690 --> 01:19:12.930 Isabelle Duvivier: David Miranda he's the head of urban forestry. 706 01:19:13.140 --> 01:19:14.190 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I know yeah. 707 01:19:16.170 --> 01:19:16.530 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay. 708 01:19:17.550 --> 01:19:28.590 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So next subject matter is the first phase was awarded for the Venice skill Center yeah hey Is there anyone in particular who wants to talk about how we should strategize for the next phase application. 709 01:19:30.810 --> 01:19:31.920 Isabelle Duvivier: That would be Michael. 710 01:19:32.250 --> 01:19:33.510 Noel Johnston: Michael Where are you. 711 01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:37.650 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: he's here but he's probably eating his. 712 01:19:37.650 --> 01:19:45.270 Noel Johnston: lunch I, personally, I sent a little note to Michael regarding this but I found the application form daunting. 713 01:19:46.350 --> 01:19:52.950 Noel Johnston: I mean for 20 $500 grant you've got a 13 page application that involves you're getting. 714 01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:56.010 Noel Johnston: permits prior on. 715 01:19:56.220 --> 01:19:56.970 Barry Campion: My God. 716 01:19:57.090 --> 01:20:06.240 Noel Johnston: i've been trying to get an A or B Berman and I, I have the instructions online, I think, is about Scott it too it's not an easy process. 717 01:20:08.280 --> 01:20:10.200 Noel Johnston: they're asking for an awful lot of stuff. 718 01:20:11.400 --> 01:20:12.600 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Why do we need a permit. 719 01:20:13.260 --> 01:20:18.210 Noel Johnston: i'm wondering because because they want us to have a permit I mean it. 720 01:20:19.350 --> 01:20:24.270 Isabelle Duvivier: depends on if we're doing work in the public on public property, we need. 721 01:20:24.270 --> 01:20:27.120 Isabelle Duvivier: A permit from the city to do work on public property. 722 01:20:28.080 --> 01:20:38.880 Isabelle Duvivier: If we're getting more crazy than we need city plans to get it, you know, to get us the permit to plant more trees, which they do very easily if we had to do that it'd be a little more onerous. 723 01:20:39.420 --> 01:20:47.370 Isabelle Duvivier: So we really have to we probably should plan, a field trip out there and decide what the project what project, we want to propose propose. 724 01:20:49.500 --> 01:20:55.080 Isabelle Duvivier: And then maybe using that as a tool sorry I just sort of interjected but since michael's being shy. 725 01:20:56.010 --> 01:21:18.120 Isabelle Duvivier: Maybe we could use that 20 $500 as a tool for getting to the principal and saying Look, we got you some money can you meet with us in person on site and then maybe we would have an amazing project with a partnership and access to their water. 726 01:21:20.190 --> 01:21:29.310 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: i'm command project I i'm my I think that's a great idea I think a field trip to the Venice skill Center is an excellent idea. 727 01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:41.910 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: My understanding of the application was that it was for the park ways that surround been a skill Center and it was not making a proposal to change the campus at all. 728 01:21:42.360 --> 01:21:43.080 Right all right. 729 01:21:44.610 --> 01:21:53.040 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: um, so why don't we put on the books, a date to for a bbg meeting. 730 01:21:54.240 --> 01:22:10.860 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: To go and visit and then make a plan as to what needs to be planted and improved, and then we can possibly we could talk to the city plants about providing getting the permit and then providing it to us so that we can use it for the grant. 731 01:22:13.350 --> 01:22:14.370 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: What do you think of that idea. 732 01:22:14.550 --> 01:22:19.770 Noel Johnston: Well, how does, since we we don't have Michael sounds like a good idea man. 733 01:22:20.160 --> 01:22:22.980 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And someone text him, maybe he's just gone to the bathroom. 734 01:22:27.330 --> 01:22:27.690 say. 735 01:22:29.670 --> 01:22:35.850 Isabelle Duvivier: Well, we can we could come up with a date now and i'm sure his busy schedule will accommodate us. 736 01:22:37.200 --> 01:22:37.350 Isabelle Duvivier: I. 737 01:22:38.010 --> 01:22:54.780 Isabelle Duvivier: Am Sean are you there did you get in i'm trying to let you in we have Sean o'brien who's Finally I think I got him who's coming in, which is excellent because it's perfect timing, we can talk about the other grant but to means not here. 738 01:22:57.570 --> 01:23:04.200 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, so the first phase awarded grant for Venice skills, do we want to propose a date yeah through. 739 01:23:04.680 --> 01:23:05.010 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah. 740 01:23:05.640 --> 01:23:10.020 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I would love it if it could be after August seven oh here's Michael. 741 01:23:12.180 --> 01:23:13.020 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Oh you're on mute. 742 01:23:15.420 --> 01:23:24.540 Isabelle Duvivier: Well let's do the 22nd and we have a lot sorry we have a lot of permitting to do we really need to get on this right away. 743 01:23:24.630 --> 01:23:27.630 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Oh yeah okay okay well. 744 01:23:27.900 --> 01:23:28.890 Isabelle Duvivier: When do you leave Sir. 745 01:23:29.640 --> 01:23:34.410 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I leave on Tuesday, but I could do anything, between now and Tuesday. 746 01:23:36.120 --> 01:23:41.820 Isabelle Duvivier: Michael we propose to do here, we propose meeting at the Venice skill Center to brainstorm what we want to do. 747 01:23:43.020 --> 01:23:46.380 Michael McGuffin: Okay i'll be out of town, most of next week. 748 01:23:47.010 --> 01:23:49.350 Isabelle Duvivier: To I propose some dates before you leave. 749 01:23:51.900 --> 01:23:52.500 Isabelle Duvivier: On a. 750 01:23:53.130 --> 01:23:54.060 Michael McGuffin: Sunday works. 751 01:23:55.110 --> 01:23:57.540 Michael McGuffin: should work i've got all this. 752 01:24:00.210 --> 01:24:01.230 Michael McGuffin: Dealing with next your. 753 01:24:01.380 --> 01:24:02.040 Mark Ryavec: Next Sunday. 754 01:24:02.670 --> 01:24:04.080 Isabelle Duvivier: This coming Sunday. 755 01:24:04.140 --> 01:24:04.680 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Two days from. 756 01:24:04.980 --> 01:24:05.490 Now. 757 01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:07.290 Mark Ryavec: we're time. 758 01:24:08.310 --> 01:24:09.810 Isabelle Duvivier: When would you show up mark. 759 01:24:11.580 --> 01:24:13.950 Mark Ryavec: Well, probably anytime after seven. 760 01:24:14.820 --> 01:24:15.810 Isabelle Duvivier: seven in the morning. 761 01:24:17.580 --> 01:24:20.280 Isabelle Duvivier: At 730 hahaha I know Michael. 762 01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:34.980 Mark Ryavec: i'm still undetermined whether i'm hiking with my group on this Sunday so it'd be better for me if it was in the late afternoon like you're here for. 763 01:24:36.840 --> 01:24:40.800 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Can we do that Michael What about fear four in the afternoon on Sunday. 764 01:24:41.010 --> 01:24:47.040 Michael McGuffin: That should work for me i've got one other thing pulling me that's not yet scheduled, but I think I should be able to block. 765 01:24:47.580 --> 01:24:50.190 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay hold on one second i'm just going to check something. 766 01:24:52.680 --> 01:24:55.920 Isabelle Duvivier: When what time did we land on i'm sorry to interrupt you. 767 01:24:56.280 --> 01:24:56.910 Mark Ryavec: For for. 768 01:24:58.110 --> 01:24:59.520 Isabelle Duvivier: Three or four in the afternoon. 769 01:24:59.910 --> 01:25:04.560 Isabelle Duvivier: Yes, oh it's so hot out really nobody could do earlier so. 770 01:25:05.040 --> 01:25:06.630 Mark Ryavec: I said I may be hiking. 771 01:25:07.020 --> 01:25:07.740 Isabelle Duvivier: Oh God at. 772 01:25:08.160 --> 01:25:09.270 Mark Ryavec: Sunday morning so. 773 01:25:09.510 --> 01:25:10.020 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay. 774 01:25:10.650 --> 01:25:13.320 Michael McGuffin: Are you still up at that time of day, is about. 775 01:25:13.530 --> 01:25:15.600 Isabelle Duvivier: I know I might be sleeping already. 776 01:25:18.090 --> 01:25:20.040 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay i'm sorry, what did we land on what time. 777 01:25:21.120 --> 01:25:23.130 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: 3pm Sunday. 778 01:25:24.420 --> 01:25:28.050 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: fight their corner of we want to be on the. 779 01:25:29.070 --> 01:25:30.720 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: What is it fourth street and are. 780 01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:34.710 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah let's be like. 781 01:25:36.750 --> 01:25:37.380 Noel Johnston: how's forth and. 782 01:25:37.890 --> 01:25:38.970 Isabelle Duvivier: forth in Vernon. 783 01:25:39.390 --> 01:25:41.670 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, and that's in front of roberta's house right. 784 01:25:42.420 --> 01:25:44.640 Isabelle Duvivier: No that's the other side. 785 01:25:44.970 --> 01:25:48.210 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: she's okay forth and Vernon is okay got it. 786 01:25:49.140 --> 01:25:52.110 Noel Johnston: Do do we want to invite anybody else to this would we for. 787 01:25:52.110 --> 01:25:56.520 Mark Ryavec: instance I want to invite NICO because he lives one one house away and he. 788 01:25:57.570 --> 01:26:02.400 Mark Ryavec: takes an interest in that whole area and might and he will provide water for anything, and we need to do. 789 01:26:02.520 --> 01:26:04.380 Noel Johnston: Well, we like to invite Roberta. 790 01:26:05.460 --> 01:26:07.020 Mark Ryavec: I don't remember it is fine with me. 791 01:26:07.440 --> 01:26:12.510 Noel Johnston: You know, you know she's a member of the country, maybe. 792 01:26:13.170 --> 01:26:17.760 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: she's the lovely rather short in stature and she always has been lovely little. 793 01:26:17.850 --> 01:26:21.240 Noel Johnston: miniature like to invite janine for any reason. 794 01:26:21.570 --> 01:26:22.140 Michael McGuffin: yeah and. 795 01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:28.380 Isabelle Duvivier: Because janine is going to be working on the air one so let's not over extend her, I mean we can invite her but. 796 01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:30.990 Michael McGuffin: The air one get. 797 01:26:31.590 --> 01:26:33.060 Isabelle Duvivier: And yeah yeah. 798 01:26:33.570 --> 01:26:34.020 Noel Johnston: It did. 799 01:26:34.080 --> 01:26:35.100 Oh great yeah. 800 01:26:36.390 --> 01:26:45.420 Isabelle Duvivier: And I think it's Sean here to talk about that one or is Sean interested in the skill set or know sean's interested in Venice boulevard welcome Sean. 801 01:26:47.460 --> 01:26:51.150 Sean obrien: Oh yeah hi i'm just still listening, right now, but thank you so much. 802 01:26:51.630 --> 01:26:52.560 Isabelle Duvivier: Thank you. 803 01:26:54.870 --> 01:26:55.170 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay. 804 01:26:55.950 --> 01:26:57.900 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: You live on what you attend also it's. 805 01:26:57.900 --> 01:26:59.340 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Free it's free on Sunday. 806 01:27:05.640 --> 01:27:07.110 Isabelle Duvivier: Who are you talking to Sarah. 807 01:27:07.200 --> 01:27:10.020 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I was, I was talking to Sean to see if he was going to come. 808 01:27:11.490 --> 01:27:14.790 Sean obrien: On I was trying to try to make it tomorrow at the farmers market. 809 01:27:15.300 --> 01:27:16.710 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay yay. 810 01:27:17.460 --> 01:27:19.080 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay that'd be awesome good. 811 01:27:20.460 --> 01:27:26.550 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, so should can we do we want to talk about the other grant as well, so the table Court also got. 812 01:27:28.620 --> 01:27:29.610 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Through the first face. 813 01:27:29.850 --> 01:27:30.210 yeah. 814 01:27:31.620 --> 01:27:36.930 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Do you want to tell us about tabor court in general, so we can move on to the next item. 815 01:27:37.470 --> 01:27:40.230 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah so Barry you want to talk about tape record a little bit. 816 01:27:41.190 --> 01:27:49.410 Barry Campion: Of Well, I can talk about what it is i've not really been involved in terms of the grant itself but um. 817 01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:59.490 Barry Campion: I mean our we're all familiar with tape tabor court that runs the parking area of runs you know, parallel to erewash that was this lovely. 818 01:28:00.030 --> 01:28:15.360 Barry Campion: native plant garden installed 10 or so years ago that due to homelessness and just neglect is kind of gone downhill, but the bones of it, and a lot of it is still very intact and we've been working on it to support it and. 819 01:28:16.620 --> 01:28:18.390 Barry Campion: bring it back to life so. 820 01:28:19.830 --> 01:28:21.420 Barry Campion: That that's kind of what I. 821 01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:28.410 Isabelle Duvivier: And you mentioned our tour with metro services and some of our findings that were shocking. 822 01:28:28.470 --> 01:28:45.840 Barry Campion: Oh yes, of course, so we do to isabel's diligence we been and others found out who's maintaining that garden and who's purview it's under which is a department of sanity is not sanitation it's the. 823 01:28:46.470 --> 01:28:47.520 Isabelle Duvivier: la do T. 824 01:28:47.640 --> 01:28:56.610 Barry Campion: Li do T, so we are with them and we're understanding the work they're doing they're also explaining the difficulty of their work with the homeless and. 825 01:28:57.690 --> 01:29:12.090 Barry Campion: And then we were talking about well who's topping these you know native cherry trees and who's topping and they're saying no we don't do that, and then a neighbor comes out and says oh it's this guy that comes the day before mother's day and tops all the poppies and. 826 01:29:12.630 --> 01:29:18.780 Barry Campion: tops all the trees for filler because he's a florist so i'm. 827 01:29:19.320 --> 01:29:21.180 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: stealing he's basically stealing public. 828 01:29:21.300 --> 01:29:25.110 Barry Campion: Plant sailing yeah for for his livelihood so. 829 01:29:26.220 --> 01:29:27.900 Barry Campion: that that was a revelation. 830 01:29:29.160 --> 01:29:30.120 Barry Campion: For all of us. 831 01:29:30.420 --> 01:29:34.560 Michael McGuffin: Now, so that I I so they don't mean me and Isabel out there printing. 832 01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:35.040 Ministry. 833 01:29:37.620 --> 01:29:37.950 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: God. 834 01:29:38.310 --> 01:29:39.180 Isabelle Duvivier: You know so. 835 01:29:39.330 --> 01:29:54.480 Barry Campion: But it was a very congenial meeting you know, because we were sort of feel like I got what are these people doing and actually they're doing, you know as good a job as they can and and now we have a relationship with you know i'm a communication with them so that's wonderful. 836 01:29:55.020 --> 01:29:55.230 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So. 837 01:29:55.710 --> 01:30:08.250 Isabelle Duvivier: I manage the farmers market parking lot, and so we set up an agreement with them that whenever we do work at one of the parking lots that we would inform them. 838 01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:24.180 Isabelle Duvivier: ahead of time, so that they wouldn't come by and do our work for us and do it in a fashion, we don't like so we don't really want them waiting for us because we don't want them removing our poppies so it was it was really good in that sense. 839 01:30:25.350 --> 01:30:33.510 Isabelle Duvivier: And then, since janine is not here, I just texted her hoping she might come, but I believe her grant was to replant. 840 01:30:36.240 --> 01:30:45.600 Isabelle Duvivier: Some of the plants over there, we because of the meeting we had with metro services and with led ot we were able to get the original. 841 01:30:46.080 --> 01:30:54.030 Isabelle Duvivier: landscape plans, so we can actually count everything that's missing, and we can just go ahead and order it. 842 01:30:54.660 --> 01:31:03.390 Isabelle Duvivier: So, and that I think it would be a lot easier to get agreements with everyone, because we have now a good relationship with do to metro services. 843 01:31:04.080 --> 01:31:13.410 Isabelle Duvivier: And so I think the La beautification team would be more likely, it would be easier for us to get all our ducks in a row for the September deadline. 844 01:31:13.980 --> 01:31:23.730 Isabelle Duvivier: For that one and it's just buying we would just be getting money to buy the plant material to get malt and that would be a great Community work day. 845 01:31:27.090 --> 01:31:32.040 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Would we would we also need to get a permit for that particular grant. 846 01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:50.070 Isabelle Duvivier: Well that's a really good question because the one guy who we did talk to who isn't I don't know the pecking order no well, what was the name of the guy that we had been in communication with with la to do T who really just threw a wall in front of us. 847 01:31:50.250 --> 01:31:52.620 Noel Johnston: is another I gave it gave castaldo. 848 01:31:53.070 --> 01:32:06.240 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah so he's been copied in these emails but he basically said you guys need a permit to do anything you need insurance and Anna and Vanessa and. 849 01:32:08.010 --> 01:32:14.460 Isabelle Duvivier: DC you know, it was the other rooms and they've all been very helpful and haven't said those things so. 850 01:32:15.480 --> 01:32:15.930 Isabelle Duvivier: I don't. 851 01:32:16.200 --> 01:32:22.170 Isabelle Duvivier: know I don't know if we're going to need a permit or not completed a letter of acknowledgement. 852 01:32:22.200 --> 01:32:27.900 Barry Campion: would be it's replacement planting so I don't I don't see what the need for the permit would. 853 01:32:28.020 --> 01:32:28.200 Isabelle Duvivier: Be. 854 01:32:28.650 --> 01:32:32.520 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: As long as the grant administrators don't insist on it, then. 855 01:32:32.760 --> 01:32:34.890 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: No, I mean that might be something to. 856 01:32:35.070 --> 01:32:42.150 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Do Michael are no sorry janine janine the person who's you're heading that yeah I mean we'd probably want to. 857 01:32:42.870 --> 01:32:53.460 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: say to janine you know you, you should touch base with the grant administrator and let them know that this is replacement plantings and it really is required because no changes are being made. 858 01:32:54.750 --> 01:33:01.710 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So i'm not still tourists I can't believe that those ironwood trees. 859 01:33:02.340 --> 01:33:16.320 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Are you know the ones that were cut down to lollipops I cannot believe that that's just because a local florist is cutting those branches, I mean that does not make any sense to me, I think that la dot must have hired a. 860 01:33:17.580 --> 01:33:24.540 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: contractor that was you know just cutting the trees down to hedges did you guys talk to them about that. 861 01:33:25.110 --> 01:33:28.920 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: huh and they said no, we didn't do that mm hmm. 862 01:33:30.900 --> 01:33:31.110 that's. 863 01:33:32.310 --> 01:33:32.730 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Great. 864 01:33:35.100 --> 01:33:35.220 Noel Johnston: i'm. 865 01:33:35.520 --> 01:33:36.420 Isabelle Duvivier: glad shawn. 866 01:33:36.840 --> 01:33:38.730 Noel Johnston: Johnson sorry. 867 01:33:39.570 --> 01:34:02.910 Sean obrien: Yes, thank you um if it's if the guys that tape record are the same guys that are working farmers lot more a lot that's mirror posts, I believe, and they are ruthless they like to chop everything down when we planted those foxtails fountain grass. 868 01:34:03.960 --> 01:34:22.290 Sean obrien: They were in the ground about six months they were just getting to a decent size and the guy from mariposa came in chop half of them down to where they're only like about I don't know six eight inches tall knock them all down to balls. 869 01:34:22.650 --> 01:34:23.850 Sean obrien: And he's saying Oh, I was. 870 01:34:23.850 --> 01:34:34.830 Sean obrien: told to do the maintenance here, and it was a big fight I was out there at like seven in the morning and it almost got confrontation, because i'm like no you're not cutting anymore. 871 01:34:35.220 --> 01:34:46.170 Sean obrien: You know, we just planted these things and you're chopping them all down so yeah mariposa I don't like the way they manage they just like to chop it all back down to nothing. 872 01:34:46.680 --> 01:34:57.690 Sean obrien: So if if it's the same guys that tape record that are doing the farmers market, you might want to speak with them about it and. 873 01:34:58.980 --> 01:35:08.940 Sean obrien: I had to go through Barnes office, I was lucky enough, I had about 20 people call in and make complaints, but then mark galanti the owner or the. 874 01:35:10.020 --> 01:35:26.670 Sean obrien: President of the Venice canal association has a personal relationship with them through the projects in the canals, so he got involved, and now the median strip on South Venice boulevard we're doing that, on our own. 875 01:35:27.930 --> 01:35:30.750 Sean obrien: So that's just my two cents on mariposa. 876 01:35:32.400 --> 01:35:32.910 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay. 877 01:35:34.140 --> 01:35:35.880 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Noel you have your hand up. 878 01:35:37.320 --> 01:35:42.390 Noel Johnston: yeah I was just gonna say that the guys that we talked to. 879 01:35:43.980 --> 01:35:50.520 Noel Johnston: or one tabor or adamant that they had not done this. 880 01:35:51.270 --> 01:35:53.550 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And were you talking to your poster at the time. 881 01:35:53.970 --> 01:35:59.790 Noel Johnston: I don't believe it was mariposa was it no it wasn't it was not mariposa two different entity. 882 01:36:01.620 --> 01:36:17.070 Noel Johnston: trimming turning over there, I I have their card, and I can I can look for the guy's name again, but these guys seem to know what they were doing team to understand what was being asked of them seem to agree with the management team that was there, they were river. 883 01:36:18.240 --> 01:36:23.100 Noel Johnston: They were not confrontational at all, they weren't seem to be quite interested in the plants wouldn't you say as well. 884 01:36:25.140 --> 01:36:30.690 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah, so I think the problem is, is that the farmers market has several different entities Sean. 885 01:36:31.260 --> 01:36:53.250 Isabelle Duvivier: And I believe that mariposa does the sidewalks and I believe that metro services is the contracting company that con that that contracts with the landscape are called or stock landscaping and they I believe low the parking lot. 886 01:36:54.660 --> 01:37:03.030 Isabelle Duvivier: And that's who we met with we met with both metro services and with or saga landscaping. 887 01:37:03.870 --> 01:37:12.390 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: or starbucks or stargell landscaping told you that they had not cut those ironwood trees that tape record down to edge sighs. 888 01:37:12.840 --> 01:37:15.270 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah they said they would never do that which. 889 01:37:16.200 --> 01:37:19.230 Barry Campion: I didn't know some of them look like some pretty old cuts. 890 01:37:19.260 --> 01:37:20.760 Barry Campion: yeah maybe Oh, I wonder if. 891 01:37:20.850 --> 01:37:24.570 Barry Campion: It was done by an earlier crew, because they I don't. 892 01:37:24.780 --> 01:37:27.660 Barry Campion: Or the owner of the property behind didn't like. 893 01:37:27.660 --> 01:37:29.130 Barry Campion: them or I don't know. 894 01:37:29.340 --> 01:37:30.930 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah or arrow one. 895 01:37:31.440 --> 01:37:32.220 Barry Campion: yeah now. 896 01:37:32.550 --> 01:37:36.360 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: could even be erewash now okay so next line we have Michael. 897 01:37:37.650 --> 01:37:53.400 Michael McGuffin: I just want to join Sarah in your expressed cynicism, even though you didn't use that word the you know, maybe these people that are man you're maintaining it right now aren't doing brutal things, but the idea that. 898 01:37:54.480 --> 01:38:02.430 Michael McGuffin: A florist on one day of the year prunes all of those iron woods into lollipops no that's not true. 899 01:38:03.600 --> 01:38:21.900 Michael McGuffin: So still it sounds like we've got a good relationship with the current maintenance, we might have to reach out to mariposa if there are more than one entities that are managing those trees, but it sounds like really good process progress with some we might have more work to do. 900 01:38:22.560 --> 01:38:41.850 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Right i'm wondering if, if I can just sleep in here i'm wondering if it would help, and this is just we don't have to debate this, but just put it as a seed if we actually hung metal plaques on the wall next to each of these trees do not trim this tree it's city property. 901 01:38:43.500 --> 01:38:55.860 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: it's just like maybe some kind of instruction that might be slightly more polite than that, but you know i'm fairly direct and when I yeah It just seems like we should. 902 01:38:56.040 --> 01:38:58.020 Mark Ryavec: You know, English and Spanish. 903 01:38:58.530 --> 01:39:03.300 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And we could put that in English and in Spanish, I agree, and we can put that into our. 904 01:39:04.320 --> 01:39:05.760 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Our grant budget. 905 01:39:06.780 --> 01:39:14.100 Barry Campion: It could also be kind of an informative sign about like for tabor that its native plants that it's you know. 906 01:39:15.120 --> 01:39:27.690 Barry Campion: it's been there for 10 years and people are working to you know, protect and support it so it's not have forgotten open up for grabs sort of a place. 907 01:39:27.690 --> 01:39:28.440 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: For hey. 908 01:39:29.700 --> 01:39:40.950 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Well So yes, I think, I think that that the drafting of language for such a sign should probably be in the hands of the the team that's doing that grant application. 909 01:39:41.580 --> 01:39:54.600 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I don't know if you would put it into the grant but certainly signage that would you know sort of encourage the nurturing of a native tree Okay, no well you still have your hand up are you still interested in speaking more. 910 01:39:54.870 --> 01:39:57.420 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: No okay janine your next. 911 01:39:59.280 --> 01:39:59.790 Janin Paine: hi. 912 01:40:00.360 --> 01:40:07.650 Janin Paine: hi hi my hand down but i'll figure that out a minute um yes, I spaced and I double booked myself, but I have a couple minutes so. 913 01:40:08.250 --> 01:40:14.910 Janin Paine: I guess maybe Isabel already said that we got a notification back about the other grant this table grant going to the second phase, so that's cool. 914 01:40:15.690 --> 01:40:21.360 Janin Paine: And it's the same deadlines apply for getting it finished and, yes, the 30th of September right and then. 915 01:40:22.140 --> 01:40:30.330 Janin Paine: I was gonna say the same thing let's put some of find that perplex up, and I think their educational and they also have something about the city property like. 916 01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:39.060 Janin Paine: Whatever in a polite way of not do not cut them The other thing is, I personally know the guy if the accidental florist think that's his name on. 917 01:40:40.080 --> 01:40:45.030 Janin Paine: It that's him who, if they kind of I could certainly talk to him, I know him personally it's been a while, but. 918 01:40:46.080 --> 01:40:51.330 Janin Paine: So if there's if that's who cut them the flowers, then I could certainly talk to them about not doing that. 919 01:40:53.130 --> 01:40:57.000 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: that's great janine did you hear the art or we're talking about how. 920 01:40:58.590 --> 01:41:03.390 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: These Bennett skill Center grant is asking us to get a permit for the work that we do. 921 01:41:03.750 --> 01:41:15.360 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And it doesn't sound like we need a permit for the work that would be done at timber court, but you might want to interact with the grant administrator to make sure that they understand the work we're doing does not require a. 922 01:41:15.390 --> 01:41:21.870 Janin Paine: purpose, because they haven't said anything but all ask yeah so how did that come up event, what do we, what are we doing in the Venice. 923 01:41:21.870 --> 01:41:23.010 Janin Paine: grab that we need a permit. 924 01:41:23.670 --> 01:41:29.340 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Well, any work that you do in public spaces typically requires a grant. 925 01:41:30.450 --> 01:41:30.780 Janin Paine: tonight. 926 01:41:31.470 --> 01:41:38.520 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: i'm sorry, but since you are going to be replanting plants that were already in the prior plan. 927 01:41:39.300 --> 01:41:41.790 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Right, it seems like you probably don't need to. 928 01:41:42.300 --> 01:41:44.070 Janin Paine: OK OK, I can check on that. 929 01:41:44.700 --> 01:41:45.870 Janin Paine: Okay yeah. 930 01:41:46.650 --> 01:41:51.510 Janin Paine: So do we want this and do this should, I only want me to go talk to. 931 01:41:51.510 --> 01:41:57.210 Janin Paine: what's his name at the Expo floor us and say hey we are just said is that a for sure thing that they're the ones that cut them or. 932 01:41:59.490 --> 01:42:03.420 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: You know it's a diplomatic question. 933 01:42:04.650 --> 01:42:07.680 Janin Paine: I mean, I can just say hey there was no someone. 934 01:42:07.740 --> 01:42:09.120 Janin Paine: Somebody thought you guys. 935 01:42:09.210 --> 01:42:10.590 Janin Paine: I mean, I could do very nicely. 936 01:42:12.210 --> 01:42:13.620 Isabelle Duvivier: Well, what do you want to say about that. 937 01:42:13.980 --> 01:42:19.080 Noel Johnston: I don't think we know for a fact that it was them, except that Isabel and I did look in their trash. 938 01:42:19.500 --> 01:42:19.860 Janin Paine: uh huh. 939 01:42:20.220 --> 01:42:22.710 Noel Johnston: And some of the drugs in their trash. 940 01:42:24.120 --> 01:42:28.140 Noel Johnston: So they resembled those those bushes. 941 01:42:28.170 --> 01:42:34.800 Noel Johnston: fireman's I don't think we can we, I think we can just say that a neighbor said that they were trimming nah. 942 01:42:35.940 --> 01:42:40.500 Noel Johnston: present a record and if that if that's true with a lot. 943 01:42:40.710 --> 01:42:41.190 Isabelle Duvivier: I mean. 944 01:42:41.460 --> 01:42:43.890 Janin Paine: that's, all I can say that some flirt with some. 945 01:42:43.920 --> 01:42:46.650 Janin Paine: Somebody said a florist and I thought I just double check make sure. 946 01:42:48.510 --> 01:42:49.350 Isabelle Duvivier: It wasn't. 947 01:42:49.560 --> 01:42:52.200 Isabelle Duvivier: It wasn't just some florist a neighbor. 948 01:42:52.770 --> 01:42:53.640 Isabelle Duvivier: right there. 949 01:42:53.700 --> 01:42:54.120 yep. 950 01:42:55.980 --> 01:42:56.550 Isabelle Duvivier: truck. 951 01:42:57.030 --> 01:42:59.730 Isabelle Duvivier: Their name on it early in the morning. 952 01:43:00.120 --> 01:43:05.610 Isabelle Duvivier: The weekend before mother's day and he saw them mow down the poppies. 953 01:43:05.670 --> 01:43:08.130 Noel Johnston: yeah, but I can do that accusatory. 954 01:43:08.640 --> 01:43:09.120 Janin Paine: I can. 955 01:43:09.900 --> 01:43:13.560 Janin Paine: yeah I can be very I can be very diplomatic I got it. 956 01:43:13.620 --> 01:43:15.300 Noel Johnston: I got it truck was. 957 01:43:16.740 --> 01:43:17.190 Janin Paine: The crime. 958 01:43:17.430 --> 01:43:17.760 yeah. 959 01:43:19.830 --> 01:43:30.540 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Actually, while the puppies are beautiful and it is a shame for the public to lose access to the poppies The real issue is really the trees, because the bobbies will come back every year, they have no problem me growing. 960 01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:32.430 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The trends themselves have been. 961 01:43:32.670 --> 01:43:40.140 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: actually quite badly damaged yeah, and so I think figuring out a diplomatic way, whether. 962 01:43:41.160 --> 01:43:42.420 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: You know it. 963 01:43:43.470 --> 01:43:47.850 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: it's mystifying as to why a florist will go out there and. 964 01:43:49.380 --> 01:43:52.380 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: keep a tree from growing to its full height. 965 01:43:52.860 --> 01:43:56.910 Barry Campion: Well, he probably doesn't know he probably just thinks it's some you know. 966 01:43:58.050 --> 01:44:09.420 Barry Campion: He still have a forgotten, you know parking area and who cares, so I think part of what would be good to say janine is that you're part of a group who's actually caring for this area and. 967 01:44:10.080 --> 01:44:20.940 Barry Campion: it's been very discouraging to see some of this pruning being done after we're trying to you know print these things ourselves to promote better structure and growth, however, you want to say that. 968 01:44:20.940 --> 01:44:21.540 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay yeah. 969 01:44:21.720 --> 01:44:22.410 Janin Paine: yeah I mean. 970 01:44:22.860 --> 01:44:24.780 Janin Paine: he's an actor, I mean. 971 01:44:25.050 --> 01:44:30.150 Janin Paine: I know the guy when he was an acting so the florist thing is literally an accidental thing I don't know how much he knows. 972 01:44:30.390 --> 01:44:32.190 Barry Campion: it's the accidental florist. 973 01:44:32.850 --> 01:44:41.790 Janin Paine: yeah accidental floors he really is, I mean like I said I knew 10 years ago, when he was trying to person for them to act, he was doing acting commercials and stuff yeah. 974 01:44:42.810 --> 01:44:43.020 Janin Paine: So. 975 01:44:43.140 --> 01:44:44.760 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I do think that it is. 976 01:44:45.390 --> 01:44:46.560 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: If you happen to be. 977 01:44:46.710 --> 01:44:55.410 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Out there with him, you can show him the one ironwood tree that has grown to full height and say these other ones are supposed to be this size. 978 01:44:55.620 --> 01:44:58.650 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, and we're trying to let them grow so they can be. 979 01:44:59.190 --> 01:45:01.920 Janin Paine: Okay, I will I will give them a colon. 980 01:45:04.260 --> 01:45:04.740 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: is about. 981 01:45:06.030 --> 01:45:11.490 Isabelle Duvivier: I wanted to say, for the signs as well and Jimmy we before you got on the. 982 01:45:12.690 --> 01:45:21.390 Isabelle Duvivier: Call we talked about what we would do with 20 $500 and I think we could easily spend all that money just on plant material. 983 01:45:21.720 --> 01:45:31.890 Isabelle Duvivier: So maybe for the signs I could go after a MW D, they have these really easy Community Partner grants that are. 984 01:45:32.430 --> 01:45:45.060 Isabelle Duvivier: Not a lot of money it's 1000 or $2,000 and those grants are only good for learning teaching tools they don't actually buy you any supplies. 985 01:45:45.510 --> 01:45:59.490 Isabelle Duvivier: So I could go after a grant for that and we could give away poppy seeds, or I mean we could do something around education that's their main thing water, education, so we can work together on that. 986 01:46:00.180 --> 01:46:05.040 Janin Paine: yeah that's a good idea, the pollination project will give you $1,000 for pretty much anything. 987 01:46:06.120 --> 01:46:10.590 Janin Paine: project to We just have to write it and I just did one help somebody and it's not hard. 988 01:46:11.280 --> 01:46:12.900 Janin Paine: they're they're pretty easy. 989 01:46:13.260 --> 01:46:13.620 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: huh. 990 01:46:14.400 --> 01:46:19.380 Janin Paine: that's another another place, we could get somebody if we knew, is how we're going to spend $1,000 yeah. 991 01:46:20.010 --> 01:46:20.430 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay. 992 01:46:20.610 --> 01:46:28.650 Janin Paine: It could be more than one project like it could be on it could be for both it could be $4,000 could be more than one little piece, I mean it can be a piece of a couple projects or something. 993 01:46:30.540 --> 01:46:30.960 yeah that's it. 994 01:46:31.980 --> 01:46:33.120 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, Michael. 995 01:46:33.240 --> 01:46:34.860 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Oh so express support when you. 996 01:46:34.860 --> 01:46:49.410 Michael McGuffin: Put signage up that it should include not just instructions, but something educational including perhaps an image of this tree is supposed to be shaped like this and it's supposed to be about 15 feet tall when it's something like that something that encourages. 997 01:46:49.770 --> 01:46:56.460 Michael McGuffin: Proper pruning rather than just lopping and then that's all I wanted to say okay. 998 01:46:58.200 --> 01:46:58.650 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Now. 999 01:46:59.820 --> 01:47:11.550 Noel Johnston: janine where we are having a brief meeting this Sunday the 24th at three o'clock at the skill Center at Vernon and forth. 1000 01:47:12.120 --> 01:47:26.790 Noel Johnston: And because you are close by, would you like to drop by we're talking about the great application for that area, but we could probably discuss a little bit about grant applications in general, can you come by. 1001 01:47:28.500 --> 01:47:30.660 Janin Paine: When do you say I missed that part of playing this going. 1002 01:47:30.660 --> 01:47:33.990 Noel Johnston: Over this is Sunday the 24th at three o'clock. 1003 01:47:34.170 --> 01:47:35.010 Janin Paine: yeah that's fine. 1004 01:47:35.460 --> 01:47:35.760 Noel Johnston: Great. 1005 01:47:35.820 --> 01:47:40.050 Janin Paine: I can do that don't do anything Sunday, I don't think i'm pretty sure yeah where Am I coming by to. 1006 01:47:40.710 --> 01:47:41.190 Noel Johnston: Oh that's. 1007 01:47:41.220 --> 01:47:42.870 Noel Johnston: Vernon and forth. 1008 01:47:43.260 --> 01:47:45.000 Janin Paine: Oh, you mean that's the place at the site. 1009 01:47:45.090 --> 01:47:46.860 Noel Johnston: Okay, all right it's a skill Center. 1010 01:47:47.250 --> 01:47:47.640 Okay. 1011 01:47:48.990 --> 01:47:56.730 Isabelle Duvivier: Should we should we schedule a time to meet at irwin to go over that grant proposal or the plan. 1012 01:47:57.150 --> 01:48:00.450 Janin Paine: I have to run right now but um but yeah I would say yes. 1013 01:48:02.970 --> 01:48:07.710 Isabelle Duvivier: So maybe next week, like after work one day on a Monday at five or something. 1014 01:48:08.130 --> 01:48:11.340 Janin Paine: Sure yeah Monday at five yes i'm oh my. 1015 01:48:12.450 --> 01:48:15.000 Janin Paine: I just need to write all this down when I get back, but yes. 1016 01:48:15.150 --> 01:48:16.470 Janin Paine: Okay i'm. 1017 01:48:18.150 --> 01:48:21.240 Janin Paine: Okay i'm good I gotta go and i'm so sorry I missed the beginning and all that. 1018 01:48:22.230 --> 01:48:22.740 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Or is. 1019 01:48:24.210 --> 01:48:24.330 Janin Paine: It. 1020 01:48:27.570 --> 01:48:31.800 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, now, while you still have your hand up, but I think you, you said what you needed to say. 1021 01:48:33.210 --> 01:48:36.420 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, great so this looks like we've gotten through our first three. 1022 01:48:40.590 --> 01:48:45.720 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I know it does seem, it seems like we're going very slowly today but there's so much to cover and we're. 1023 01:48:46.080 --> 01:48:48.090 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And we're at 110 so our. 1024 01:48:48.150 --> 01:48:54.330 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Our normal time to stop would be one or 130 so we have 20 minutes left, what do you think. 1025 01:48:56.010 --> 01:49:08.850 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Neither heather is not here today and I wanted to see if she had made any progress on her shower water project but she's not here, so we can skip that and then there was a conversation that I was wondering if. 1026 01:49:10.140 --> 01:49:18.930 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: With regard to bio diversity and single species plantings and Noel did suggest that we agenda is this, because that did come up when we had. 1027 01:49:20.010 --> 01:49:27.090 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: The fellow from surfrider foundation with us, and I think we also had our our topia. 1028 01:49:28.140 --> 01:49:39.930 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Expert with us talking about how it seemed that the city was beginning to shift its policy to want to plant very species on on the same block. 1029 01:49:40.590 --> 01:49:50.640 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And i'm wondering if that was something that you guys discussed with the urban forestry folks that you saw on Wednesday, that is, that broached at all. 1030 01:49:51.900 --> 01:49:54.030 Barry Campion: No, I wasn't okay. 1031 01:49:54.450 --> 01:49:56.370 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So we haven't heard anything more about that. 1032 01:49:57.600 --> 01:50:01.020 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay um Isabel and you have your hand up. 1033 01:50:01.920 --> 01:50:07.410 Isabelle Duvivier: Oh, I was just hoping before we leave we could talk about the T poetry's at the. 1034 01:50:08.820 --> 01:50:10.320 Isabelle Duvivier: Westminster school. 1035 01:50:11.640 --> 01:50:15.060 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Oh yes, that's at the very bottom that's number nine. 1036 01:50:16.200 --> 01:50:17.520 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Yes, please go ahead. 1037 01:50:18.690 --> 01:50:30.210 Isabelle Duvivier: Well, so the the there's a Saturday market there, which is really great they meet every Saturday, and in the morning, they put out these big helium balloons that advertise it. 1038 01:50:30.900 --> 01:50:38.130 Isabelle Duvivier: And one day I went out there and I met the guy who puts the balloons up and I offered to bring him my my my huge. 1039 01:50:38.760 --> 01:50:46.470 Isabelle Duvivier: extendable saw because the balloons gets stuck in the trees and then they live there forever. 1040 01:50:47.250 --> 01:50:52.680 Isabelle Duvivier: He borrowed it he tried to use it said it didn't work said he had a tool, he could use. 1041 01:50:53.250 --> 01:51:05.730 Isabelle Duvivier: And then nothing ever happened so every single Saturday, they put balloons up on these big giant strings the winds blow the balloons into the T poetry, and they get stuck. 1042 01:51:06.030 --> 01:51:12.780 Isabelle Duvivier: So there are you know months and months, or rather, weeks and weeks and weeks of. 1043 01:51:13.680 --> 01:51:27.810 Isabelle Duvivier: spaghetti spider web string in this one T boo tree and deflated helium balloons that start out looking like little ornaments and then eventually they just become a little plastic teardrops. 1044 01:51:28.230 --> 01:51:35.160 Isabelle Duvivier: And now they're getting stuck on the light Pole and I noticed them stuck on the palm tree and there's just. 1045 01:51:36.210 --> 01:51:43.830 Isabelle Duvivier: he's he obviously knows i'm paying attention because I met with him and he promised to do something about so I don't know what to do, he's a really nice guy he's an Asian guy. 1046 01:51:44.910 --> 01:51:57.060 Isabelle Duvivier: Jim you're as suggested that I talked to the principal lenore said she knows the principal of the school that she would help make contact with me but, honestly I just i've got my plate is full. 1047 01:51:57.570 --> 01:52:03.270 Isabelle Duvivier: And I don't want to have that conversation I don't want it, I want somebody in this group to take that off my plate. 1048 01:52:03.930 --> 01:52:14.970 Isabelle Duvivier: Even though I don't know if that's likely and I don't know what to do about it it's probably as simple as showing up there on a Saturday and saying look dude figure it out he's really nice so it's nicely said. 1049 01:52:15.840 --> 01:52:21.300 Isabelle Duvivier: He might be able to figure it out, but what i'm worried about is that birds fly into those things. 1050 01:52:21.660 --> 01:52:37.620 Isabelle Duvivier: That the trees were just pruned they were also just deciduous so right now they're just going into their full bloom season and birds are not going to know they're there and they're going to get their wings caught it's just it's and it's ugly. 1051 01:52:38.880 --> 01:52:39.540 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah no kidding. 1052 01:52:43.290 --> 01:52:50.670 Barry Campion: I actually I feel very strongly from an environmental point of view I hate balloons if you go sailing. 1053 01:52:51.570 --> 01:53:07.680 Barry Campion: The amount of balloons you find in the ocean, or you go hiking all over the place, so I would just ask him to show up so i'm not the person to be a mediator for him, no matter how nice he is it's just I think things are awful. 1054 01:53:07.860 --> 01:53:08.640 So Noel. 1055 01:53:10.950 --> 01:53:12.000 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Oh you're on mute sweetie. 1056 01:53:14.190 --> 01:53:24.900 Noel Johnston: I think that we ought to talk to somebody perhaps higher up because I really don't think they should have helium balloons there at all they're very well documented online is being polluters of many different clients. 1057 01:53:25.950 --> 01:53:29.460 Noel Johnston: You know animals eat them they're not good for the air the. 1058 01:53:31.110 --> 01:53:33.720 Noel Johnston: animals eat the strings a balloon. 1059 01:53:33.810 --> 01:53:34.440 Barry Campion: tangled up. 1060 01:53:34.470 --> 01:53:40.020 Noel Johnston: it's just there's not a whole lot they land is later on beaches river likes for us and other natural areas. 1061 01:53:40.380 --> 01:53:52.680 Noel Johnston: Two most common types of balloons are my lair and latex and they're made from plastic nylon sheets through the medical coding, they will never biodegrade I mean this, this is really a good idea altogether yeah. 1062 01:53:52.740 --> 01:53:53.040 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I think. 1063 01:53:53.280 --> 01:54:04.710 Noel Johnston: I think we do something with banners there's something else colorful that they could put up that would be less expensive just as attractive and attention getting I think balloons are awful idea. 1064 01:54:04.950 --> 01:54:08.790 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And reusable anything reusable like you have some money. 1065 01:54:08.820 --> 01:54:15.360 Noel Johnston: On a reasonable I know her band all kinds of numbers, all kinds of banners that they could be using they could be using those. 1066 01:54:15.480 --> 01:54:20.820 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: color vertical banner like like the vertical banners that kind of arch over a little bit. 1067 01:54:21.120 --> 01:54:21.510 yeah. 1068 01:54:22.560 --> 01:54:28.770 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah so who would like to go, and I think probably the first thing to do is to go and talk to him again and say. 1069 01:54:30.360 --> 01:54:43.920 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We would really support you not putting balloons up at all they're environmentally very bad for the ocean and for all of the birds locally and when they get caught in the tree they're quite ugly it's I mean it becomes literally. 1070 01:54:44.070 --> 01:54:47.040 Noel Johnston: When you have a child anybody with a child that goes there. 1071 01:54:48.690 --> 01:54:49.410 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And dress. 1072 01:54:50.400 --> 01:54:52.680 Noel Johnston: Anybody that goes to the to the school. 1073 01:54:53.790 --> 01:54:54.660 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And dress. 1074 01:54:54.870 --> 01:55:02.220 andreas: I think certain balloons helium balloon so you can prohibit it in California think some sort of foil balloons. 1075 01:55:03.450 --> 01:55:14.580 andreas: might not be allowed in California, but i'm not sure whether others are, but I just wanted to second that I feel strongly about that the environmental hazard. 1076 01:55:16.440 --> 01:55:24.570 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So if we feel strongly enough about this, do we want to pass emotion and have to be MC like go to the guy and say hey you can't do that sorry. 1077 01:55:25.170 --> 01:55:26.670 Noel Johnston: I think that's a better idea. 1078 01:55:26.910 --> 01:55:27.210 I do. 1079 01:55:29.940 --> 01:55:36.660 Isabelle Duvivier: better than that just first talking to them and saying hey he may already have this in his brain he may already be planning it or. 1080 01:55:36.660 --> 01:55:43.890 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Maybe on it Okay, maybe I mean you're probably right I think if there's somebody here who thinks they can diplomatically approach him. 1081 01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:46.560 Isabelle Duvivier: We should sign up to Nice. 1082 01:55:48.600 --> 01:55:49.470 Isabelle Duvivier: Little niece. 1083 01:55:49.920 --> 01:55:50.910 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: she's not here. 1084 01:55:50.970 --> 01:55:52.800 Isabelle Duvivier: He says he's not here. 1085 01:55:53.880 --> 01:55:54.540 Isabelle Duvivier: um. 1086 01:55:54.600 --> 01:55:55.350 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah I mean it. 1087 01:55:55.410 --> 01:55:58.080 Barry Campion: would be delighted to be nominated i'm sure. 1088 01:55:59.280 --> 01:56:03.120 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: It would be helpful if we had someone who was in that actual school. 1089 01:56:03.180 --> 01:56:05.370 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: If anybody bought her kid there. 1090 01:56:05.850 --> 01:56:06.870 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I mean I don't know anybody that. 1091 01:56:07.260 --> 01:56:11.370 Isabelle Duvivier: I think Linares grin child goes there. 1092 01:56:11.640 --> 01:56:12.300 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Oh, is that right. 1093 01:56:12.330 --> 01:56:14.340 Isabelle Duvivier: Right, she said she was going to hell. 1094 01:56:14.430 --> 01:56:15.780 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So okay so maybe. 1095 01:56:15.870 --> 01:56:16.710 Isabelle Duvivier: work with her. 1096 01:56:17.130 --> 01:56:19.080 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: i'll follow up with with lenore. 1097 01:56:24.990 --> 01:56:28.080 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and asked her if I mean lenore is so sweet. 1098 01:56:30.960 --> 01:56:33.930 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And how did you find the head of the market. 1099 01:56:35.280 --> 01:56:48.390 Isabelle Duvivier: I was just writing by in the morning he sets up before the market starts so he's usually there around seven or eight setting up and you can see they're inflating the balloons and putting the strings up and. 1100 01:56:50.160 --> 01:56:51.300 Isabelle Duvivier: I just wrote by. 1101 01:56:52.170 --> 01:56:54.720 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Right, I see 7am. 1102 01:56:58.530 --> 01:57:07.920 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Why don't we were i'm going to interact with lenore i'll ask her if she's willing to take this on and she's so sweet that she'll probably she probably won't be more successful than any of us. 1103 01:57:09.510 --> 01:57:11.310 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: sweetness is a very. 1104 01:57:12.360 --> 01:57:13.500 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: key ingredients. 1105 01:57:14.070 --> 01:57:16.830 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: in getting folks to kind of you know. 1106 01:57:18.150 --> 01:57:21.240 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Do is they probably know, they should do anyway. 1107 01:57:22.260 --> 01:57:28.980 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Right okay i'll interact with lenore i'll email her or texture and see if she's willing to take the fun. 1108 01:57:29.250 --> 01:57:38.580 Noel Johnston: There are one other thing, maybe, maybe lenore could suggest something else, there are all kinds of decorative banners online and if she are. 1109 01:57:39.150 --> 01:57:48.480 Noel Johnston: I mean, I can I can look up decorative banners and send her some stuff if she wants to suggest something else so she isn't just entirely negative, you know. 1110 01:57:48.570 --> 01:57:51.540 Noel Johnston: Okay yeah here's the lead put up it's done. 1111 01:57:52.260 --> 01:58:03.960 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah yeah yeah I think that's a great idea okay good so um we've got like 12 minutes left, and I would like to try to cover some of these things. 1112 01:58:05.070 --> 01:58:21.180 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: One of the things in new business that Noel brought up and actually is about brought up as well is future speakers for board meetings so that we wouldn't have larger meetings that I would publicize you know, three or four weeks ahead of time and then we would have more folks with us. 1113 01:58:22.650 --> 01:58:35.700 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: What do you guys think I I did hear from Charles Charles Cohen that's his last name, he said that they had a soil expert at his committee already. 1114 01:58:35.970 --> 01:58:37.260 Isabelle Duvivier: know those more. 1115 01:58:38.760 --> 01:58:46.530 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: it's not Charles Miller it's the it's the fellow who he has another committee and he does he was involved when we were talking to. 1116 01:58:48.840 --> 01:59:00.390 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: That development about you know the development it's going to be done on the corner of Venice and I can't remember the street, but it's the it's the pod share, he was active with us and we're doing that. 1117 01:59:01.620 --> 01:59:04.560 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Charles Cohen, is laughing I believe. 1118 01:59:05.730 --> 01:59:11.070 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Anyway, so he interrupted me and said that his his his committee and already done a soil expert. 1119 01:59:12.600 --> 01:59:27.210 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: At one point, said, did you guys attend our top so I hadn't I didn't attend that so I didn't know, but what do you think do you want to have Tracy and Aaron come, they may be too busy at this point, but we can certainly ask them to come and then we have. 1120 01:59:29.010 --> 01:59:41.460 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I think, who was it Isabel I think he proposed perhaps or no I think Noel asked, maybe we have a cal poly urban design person that comes and tells us about success stories, what are the, what are the different things that people are interested in. 1121 01:59:43.590 --> 01:59:47.430 Isabelle Duvivier: The city council offices would be great okay. 1122 01:59:47.820 --> 01:59:50.340 Barry Campion: yeah it'd be nice to establish a relationship. 1123 01:59:52.320 --> 01:59:54.030 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: With the candidate yeah. 1124 01:59:55.230 --> 01:59:56.850 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, do you know if ever. 1125 01:59:57.660 --> 01:59:59.460 Isabelle Duvivier: Anyone yeah does. 1126 01:59:59.670 --> 02:00:01.080 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: not plan to do a candidate. 1127 02:00:04.290 --> 02:00:04.890 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: tour. 1128 02:00:05.220 --> 02:00:18.420 Barry Campion: I haven't heard anything about that I don't you know they did they did a forum for all the candidates I don't know I kind of doubt it but yeah okay. 1129 02:00:20.670 --> 02:00:24.930 Noel Johnston: Well, we just be talking talking asking you about green issues right. 1130 02:00:25.110 --> 02:00:26.910 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Yes, environmental issues. 1131 02:00:27.930 --> 02:00:31.710 Noel Johnston: So our, our request is zero and they wouldn't have to spend a tremendous amount of time. 1132 02:00:32.430 --> 02:00:36.330 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah it's just casual right. 1133 02:00:37.230 --> 02:00:39.570 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: About five maybe 15 minutes each. 1134 02:00:40.230 --> 02:00:42.210 Isabelle Duvivier: But you know, anyone who knows either of them. 1135 02:00:42.570 --> 02:00:43.590 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Well, I know Tracy. 1136 02:00:44.220 --> 02:00:44.490 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Is. 1137 02:00:44.790 --> 02:00:45.810 Isabelle Duvivier: That lunch dinner. 1138 02:00:46.140 --> 02:01:03.870 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Right oh i'm hoping that i'll be able to answer and then actually Evan is going to interact with Aaron darling in order to get it, you know, a meeting with him with regard to link best forward, and so I might be able to ask Evan to also say hey listen, can you please come know possibly. 1139 02:01:04.920 --> 02:01:06.000 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We could have. 1140 02:01:07.890 --> 02:01:22.170 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Is there a way to put together some joint meetings of different environmental groups that come from other mcs so that it's a bigger meeting to them like we could involve Robbie and his meeting you know if we can find a few other. 1141 02:01:23.820 --> 02:01:32.070 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: neighborhood Councils that have either an arbor committee or an Environmental Committee or agreeing Committee, then we could do something that's joint, what do you guys think of that. 1142 02:01:33.300 --> 02:01:35.790 Noel Johnston: I don't know if we can do that do as. 1143 02:01:37.230 --> 02:01:48.960 Isabelle Duvivier: Well, we could do whatever we want it could be bbg instead of our but i'm just i'm thinking that you know, like the marvelous job or group they're kind of small as well. 1144 02:01:50.640 --> 02:01:53.730 Isabelle Duvivier: The Green committee from del rey the marvelous. 1145 02:01:55.680 --> 02:02:01.530 Isabelle Duvivier: Community Council has i've been going to their plum committee. 1146 02:02:02.550 --> 02:02:07.740 Isabelle Duvivier: See fact, but I just think I thought it would be just nicer for to be small. 1147 02:02:08.310 --> 02:02:21.360 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay, for us to use our expertise so more like them interviewing us than us interviewing them like to us telling them what the issues are what our successes are. 1148 02:02:21.930 --> 02:02:22.350 Barry Campion: A lot. 1149 02:02:22.410 --> 02:02:24.360 Barry Campion: For coming i'm sorry. 1150 02:02:24.750 --> 02:02:25.290 Isabelle Duvivier: Go ahead, I. 1151 02:02:25.560 --> 02:02:37.200 Barry Campion: was just to say but also kind of our frustrations like we have ideas, but you know, we had trouble you know with the Council MINS office getting any support, and you know just. 1152 02:02:37.410 --> 02:02:37.830 Barry Campion: kind of. 1153 02:02:38.370 --> 02:02:39.750 Barry Campion: nudge them a little bit. 1154 02:02:39.780 --> 02:02:42.210 Barry Campion: To see what they they might. 1155 02:02:43.380 --> 02:02:50.880 Barry Campion: You know kind of happened at the Edna meeting where you know about the digi path for rose pen lauren and. 1156 02:02:51.600 --> 02:03:04.410 Barry Campion: Both Aaron darling and the representative from Tracy parks said, I mean they were asked directly, which you supported a digi path and they both said yes, so you know that was nice to hear so um. 1157 02:03:05.550 --> 02:03:10.770 Barry Campion: So I don't I don't know I mean I you know, make a list of projects or ideas and. 1158 02:03:10.770 --> 02:03:13.200 Barry Campion: see what what would they do so. 1159 02:03:13.920 --> 02:03:16.230 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, I know you have your hand up. 1160 02:03:16.590 --> 02:03:26.490 Noel Johnston: Well, I would there are there are so many subjects that i'd like to hear from a speaker I, I would like somebody to talk about urban soils I think it's I think it's interesting. 1161 02:03:27.840 --> 02:03:33.510 Noel Johnston: There was some sort of daunting information from Dave mcclay on this little last. 1162 02:03:33.540 --> 02:03:34.530 Barry Campion: True yeah. 1163 02:03:34.860 --> 02:03:48.120 Noel Johnston: How how large a whole he felt you had to dig for an urban tree and boy It made it sound like the holes that we shouldn't be digging would be 10 times as big as what we're. 1164 02:03:48.540 --> 02:04:02.730 Noel Johnston: What we're we're doing I i'd like to hear another point of view on that, I mean I I suspect Dave is probably right but is there a fallback position to that I certainly hope so, because otherwise we've been. 1165 02:04:04.770 --> 02:04:09.540 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: You know, maybe state monthly what's his position Dave. 1166 02:04:09.960 --> 02:04:10.830 Noel Johnston: Dave is a. 1167 02:04:11.850 --> 02:04:15.060 Noel Johnston: Is an arborist he worked for. 1168 02:04:16.110 --> 02:04:25.860 Noel Johnston: Steve Jobs for eight years, as his arborist and he was responsible for planting something like 9000 trees for Steve Jobs. 1169 02:04:27.060 --> 02:04:33.240 Noel Johnston: he's extremely knowledgeable about oaks and has a online site that I think it's called topia. 1170 02:04:33.690 --> 02:04:35.040 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: he's that guy okay. 1171 02:04:35.220 --> 02:04:39.780 Noel Johnston: yeah he's a great guy he's a great guy he's really interested in terribly wrong informed. 1172 02:04:40.950 --> 02:04:42.210 Noel Johnston: I think he's kind of. 1173 02:04:45.060 --> 02:04:57.780 Noel Johnston: he's david's into doing everything right and he like to do everything right right off the BAT I i'm really sympathetic with that I too would like to about you know we are a group that is not able to always. 1174 02:04:58.620 --> 02:05:08.910 Noel Johnston: do exactly what we'd like to do because of funding, because we're limited by park with the size of park wise because we're working with the city, because we need permits whatever. 1175 02:05:09.390 --> 02:05:22.740 Noel Johnston: So I just like to know if there's a fallback position to that, and then I would love to get somebody to talk to us about the beach projects, you know about doing something out on the sand and. 1176 02:05:23.880 --> 02:05:37.050 Noel Johnston: I don't know who we talked to her about that maybe we can get somebody who from hill the bay, but had had already been through been through it, you know we we've stuck our toe in the water there. 1177 02:05:39.000 --> 02:05:50.670 Noel Johnston: And I don't know you know I don't know how much a chat room for instance the comedy how much good that a chat from the economy would do, but you know they're there are all kinds of. 1178 02:05:52.380 --> 02:05:55.380 Noel Johnston: Green tree and green project. 1179 02:05:56.460 --> 02:06:03.690 Noel Johnston: niches that i'd like to i'd like to know about i'd like to know a little bit more about what is attacking our trees what. 1180 02:06:07.710 --> 02:06:22.800 Noel Johnston: Peter at a little little oak tree that he was growing in his nursery that got eaten the leaves got on the oak got eaten away to LACE by a little inch long brown worm that you know, one of those. 1181 02:06:24.870 --> 02:06:38.250 Noel Johnston: Words it can identify high don't know what to say about it, you know I would have loved it a bird come at come along and gotten it but it's pretty much killed this little oak tree there's not much left to the outrage and it would be know what that thing is. 1182 02:06:38.280 --> 02:06:45.060 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So no well, let me ask so you've got you've kind of proposed a number of things i'm wondering if you're willing to make some phone calls to. 1183 02:06:45.060 --> 02:06:46.080 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: pour money in. 1184 02:06:46.650 --> 02:06:47.580 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, that would be great. 1185 02:06:48.480 --> 02:06:52.680 Noel Johnston: I, like everybody else i'd like to hear from the candidates that they'd be my. 1186 02:06:53.190 --> 02:07:09.540 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: My thoughts your first that's your turn and I will, I will make the phone call to Tracy i'll run around and get her, and then I think i'll ask Kevin to when he approaches Aaron regarding like and fast forward to also see if he can come to a meeting i'm Isabelle. 1187 02:07:10.980 --> 02:07:19.110 Isabelle Duvivier: I was going to say to noel's point about healthy soils la sanitation and environment and did a really amazing. 1188 02:07:20.130 --> 02:07:30.420 Isabelle Duvivier: workshop and document about healthy soil so maybe Noel could look at that and see who presented it's a three hour long. 1189 02:07:30.750 --> 02:07:34.800 Isabelle Duvivier: or top that they did and i've seen i've seen it. 1190 02:07:36.060 --> 02:07:45.510 Isabelle Duvivier: I just can't remember where the link is but it's probably on the La San website or tree people's website, maybe we could find somebody from there to talk to us about local soils here. 1191 02:07:45.930 --> 02:07:57.060 Isabelle Duvivier: And then the last thing I was going to say is i'd really love to have somebody local a lot of a lot of agencies are looking to. 1192 02:07:58.380 --> 02:08:05.550 Isabelle Duvivier: taking care of urban forest, the way that the native people did the people who really know about. 1193 02:08:09.030 --> 02:08:17.340 Isabelle Duvivier: Asset Management and I don't mean that from kind of like a business perspective but Native Americans they know they knew how to cut trees, they knew how to. 1194 02:08:17.700 --> 02:08:23.970 Isabelle Duvivier: Take care of trees, they understood that a forest has to be managed it has to be loved, it has to be communicated with. 1195 02:08:24.600 --> 02:08:32.130 Isabelle Duvivier: And I would love to know if there were any local tongue vase or people that were really familiar with our specific area. 1196 02:08:32.550 --> 02:08:38.640 Isabelle Duvivier: That we could talk to when discussing how to manage the force that we're planting around us here. 1197 02:08:39.420 --> 02:08:54.330 Isabelle Duvivier: So that's just a thought, and then I was thinking, maybe you know, maybe janine has connections, because Luis even though he's he's native American from Mexico I don't know, maybe he knows some more local people, or maybe Steve Williams. 1198 02:08:56.040 --> 02:09:08.970 Isabelle Duvivier: knows some I saw a great presentation from someone from orange county and it was incredibly inspiring to hear about how they use cottonwood trees for treating of Colvin and. 1199 02:09:09.360 --> 02:09:18.240 Isabelle Duvivier: just some of the the ancient wisdom that we, we have not grown up with having most of us come from someplace far away. 1200 02:09:20.700 --> 02:09:24.210 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, great i've written all of those down um. 1201 02:09:25.230 --> 02:09:34.380 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I could, I actually have a college friend who I haven't been in contact with an years she's native American and she's extremely active in. 1202 02:09:35.490 --> 02:09:49.380 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: native American movements and culture, so I might Ping her and see if she knows somebody who comes from a California tribe that can speak to us about that type of planting wisdom. 1203 02:09:50.490 --> 02:10:01.200 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: But if I don't know Steve Williams very well with want to call him and see if he knows someone on that would be great I think that's a really, really interesting idea i'm very go ahead. 1204 02:10:01.320 --> 02:10:11.520 Barry Campion: Oh, do you all know, I can't remember the name of it that's the natural spring that's up by uni that high school sort of Ohio. 1205 02:10:11.700 --> 02:10:15.420 Barry Campion: And yeah Have you ever gone there. 1206 02:10:15.660 --> 02:10:16.350 Isabelle Duvivier: I have. 1207 02:10:16.380 --> 02:10:18.480 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah and actually the guy who runs it. 1208 02:10:18.540 --> 02:10:25.050 Barry Campion: yeah so you know we did a field trip there with the audubon docents with Cindy and. 1209 02:10:25.500 --> 02:10:35.910 Barry Campion: You know that's pretty extraordinary and I actually talked to the guy about the island Oh, it was just when those were coming and he wasn't familiar because they want to plant more trees and they want to. 1210 02:10:37.530 --> 02:10:45.570 Barry Campion: it's kind of a restoration project, but he might also be a or they might be an interesting organization to contact. 1211 02:10:45.630 --> 02:10:48.150 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah his his name is Barbara Maris. 1212 02:10:48.210 --> 02:10:48.630 Yes. 1213 02:10:51.180 --> 02:10:56.670 Isabelle Duvivier: I did I he's a great guy but I didn't find him very knowledgeable but he might know somebody who is. 1214 02:10:56.700 --> 02:10:58.350 Barry Campion: Right yeah that's what I wasn't thinking. 1215 02:10:58.350 --> 02:10:59.670 Barry Campion: Here, but. 1216 02:10:59.850 --> 02:11:03.720 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: A good connection Okay, who would like to contact him. 1217 02:11:04.260 --> 02:11:06.030 Noel Johnston: Oh, Sarah was. 1218 02:11:07.650 --> 02:11:16.680 Noel Johnston: saying here there's something and I don't know a thing about it, called the Los Angeles city county native American Indian Commission that. 1219 02:11:17.760 --> 02:11:22.410 Noel Johnston: Is reachable and they're they're supposed to be a kind of a. 1220 02:11:25.080 --> 02:11:29.940 Noel Johnston: contact us about anything Indian American so they might be interested in this too. 1221 02:11:30.870 --> 02:11:31.410 Okay. 1222 02:11:32.880 --> 02:11:35.040 Noel Johnston: Come on i'll try contacting them. 1223 02:11:35.370 --> 02:11:36.480 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, that would be great. 1224 02:11:41.070 --> 02:11:41.700 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay. 1225 02:11:43.470 --> 02:11:55.380 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So i'm we're right at 130 we didn't get to talk about the mulch pilot the golf course for the list of plants for planting in the fall, I think that we. 1226 02:11:56.220 --> 02:12:07.890 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Should adjourn but the list of plants for planting in the fall i'm Isabelle with was talking about, we should probably do get together and do a walk of some kind. 1227 02:12:08.940 --> 02:12:14.010 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: and talk about what it is that we want to plant wants to planting season begins since it's not now. 1228 02:12:15.510 --> 02:12:21.780 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And we could set a date for that at the next meeting, I think we need to wait. 1229 02:12:25.230 --> 02:12:29.130 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, and then the multiple of the golf course, do you want to report about that as well. 1230 02:12:32.370 --> 02:12:33.570 Isabelle Duvivier: Nothing to report. 1231 02:12:33.930 --> 02:12:38.550 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, I know well okay good Noel you have your hand up. 1232 02:12:39.210 --> 02:12:40.530 Noel Johnston: I want to take it down. 1233 02:12:43.260 --> 02:12:50.010 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Good okay so we've covered pretty much everything which is quite impressive um. 1234 02:12:51.240 --> 02:12:54.510 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Does anybody have further announcements. 1235 02:12:58.230 --> 02:13:03.450 Noel Johnston: Well Isabelle already announced the August 6 at mar vista. 1236 02:13:04.500 --> 02:13:25.710 Noel Johnston: I would like to reinvention our effort tomorrow morning at the farmers market where we're working with the Chamber and action group um I think I think there's a lot to be done out there, there we have a we have a lot of mulch we've already got living in my garage. 1237 02:13:26.820 --> 02:13:28.800 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay that's good I was gonna ask you if you have. 1238 02:13:29.820 --> 02:13:33.180 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: If you've gotten some mulch together well everything. 1239 02:13:33.690 --> 02:13:35.010 Isabelle Duvivier: To be more most. 1240 02:13:35.370 --> 02:13:36.420 Isabelle Duvivier: Noel do we need. 1241 02:13:36.420 --> 02:13:38.460 Noel Johnston: More I don't believe we do. 1242 02:13:39.090 --> 02:13:39.600 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay. 1243 02:13:40.230 --> 02:13:52.440 Isabelle Duvivier: And what are we gonna do about the homeless, that are right there in that one area that really needs Mozart, do you think we're going to be comfortable putting mulch next to them, I mean they don't mind they wouldn't mind having it there it's not. 1244 02:13:52.440 --> 02:13:52.830 Noel Johnston: Like oh. 1245 02:13:53.310 --> 02:13:57.690 Noel Johnston: We don't have enough, we don't have enough knowledge to cover the whole North end if that's what you. 1246 02:13:58.860 --> 02:14:02.760 Noel Johnston: need the weeds stop where the homeless, begin. 1247 02:14:04.590 --> 02:14:15.510 Noel Johnston: The land to the west of of where the weeds are is for the homeless, on campus and there are no weeds there, there is no nothing there. 1248 02:14:15.630 --> 02:14:20.490 Noel Johnston: yeah that's right now there's there is not a thing in there. 1249 02:14:20.850 --> 02:14:23.400 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah but that really could use some lunch. 1250 02:14:23.400 --> 02:14:26.400 Noel Johnston: Because when we then we need more much. 1251 02:14:26.880 --> 02:14:30.330 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay, do we have any bags or anything to get molds with. 1252 02:14:30.390 --> 02:14:31.050 Noel Johnston: We do not. 1253 02:14:31.410 --> 02:14:34.410 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah I wish we had gotten that delivery. 1254 02:14:35.760 --> 02:14:38.790 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: So they so you did order a delivery, but they just simply didn't. 1255 02:14:39.090 --> 02:14:48.480 Isabelle Duvivier: Nobody we've ordered two locations now I think i'll have to try a third I think they're just ignoring us because maybe they think we're a problem. 1256 02:14:49.980 --> 02:14:51.420 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Oh, I don't think that's right, I think. 1257 02:14:51.510 --> 02:14:53.130 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: That just nobody got it. 1258 02:14:53.190 --> 02:14:57.480 Isabelle Duvivier: nation yeah we found a third location today at the market where we could put it. 1259 02:14:57.780 --> 02:15:06.090 Noel Johnston: there's there's a huge amount out on a highway right now they've had they've done four or five big new dumps out there. 1260 02:15:07.170 --> 02:15:09.990 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: it's just an eye, I feel like I can't go again cuz. 1261 02:15:10.050 --> 02:15:11.070 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I already been caught to. 1262 02:15:11.070 --> 02:15:12.270 Isabelle Duvivier: end up in jail. 1263 02:15:13.140 --> 02:15:13.800 Exactly. 1264 02:15:14.940 --> 02:15:18.900 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I mean I if I went I don't know it's 3am I probably wouldn't get caught. 1265 02:15:20.970 --> 02:15:22.680 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I should have gone last night when it couldn't sleep. 1266 02:15:26.220 --> 02:15:28.290 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Very has the same problem clearly. 1267 02:15:29.730 --> 02:15:32.310 Barry Campion: haven't thought about going to get most. 1268 02:15:32.520 --> 02:15:47.730 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: yeah exactly well I don't think about it either I just read my Obama autobiography and try to go back to sleep Okay, I think we're ready to adjourn though folks will see everybody can at eight o'clock tomorrow oh nine o'clock are we doing instead that nine. 1269 02:15:50.040 --> 02:15:50.640 Isabelle Duvivier: I think hey. 1270 02:15:50.790 --> 02:15:51.270 Barry Campion: hey. 1271 02:15:51.930 --> 02:15:56.490 Barry Campion: i'll be bringing six five gallon Logan vias be very excited. 1272 02:15:58.890 --> 02:16:02.370 Isabelle Duvivier: To be there at 730 i'm going to try to bring a wheel barrel. 1273 02:16:03.270 --> 02:16:03.810 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, I mean. 1274 02:16:04.320 --> 02:16:05.580 Isabelle Duvivier: Yes, the wheel barrel. 1275 02:16:06.240 --> 02:16:07.080 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, great. 1276 02:16:08.550 --> 02:16:11.070 Isabelle Duvivier: you're gonna bring yours too okay great. 1277 02:16:11.760 --> 02:16:12.240 So. 1278 02:16:13.260 --> 02:16:25.170 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I have down here that the next part meeting would be August 19 it's a little bit of a problem for me personally i'm wondering if people would be open to doing the next meeting, a week after that. 1279 02:16:27.840 --> 02:16:30.600 Isabelle Duvivier: August 26 yes. 1280 02:16:33.600 --> 02:16:35.640 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: shauna Brian you have your hand up sorry. 1281 02:16:37.170 --> 02:16:43.950 Sean obrien: Yes, but tomorrow i'm have I could bring a. 1282 02:16:45.210 --> 02:16:49.830 Sean obrien: Double coupler so he can access the water along the parkway. 1283 02:16:50.760 --> 02:16:51.150 Great. 1284 02:16:53.970 --> 02:16:54.450 Noel Johnston: john. 1285 02:16:55.590 --> 02:16:55.950 Sean obrien: Yes. 1286 02:16:56.310 --> 02:16:57.210 Noel Johnston: We do have one. 1287 02:16:57.600 --> 02:16:57.900 Isabelle Duvivier: Can we. 1288 02:16:58.260 --> 02:17:08.970 Isabelle Duvivier: do, though, can we use one on each side sure, and we could even if we if we had like overflow people I would love to see if we can figure out how to turn the water on. 1289 02:17:14.580 --> 02:17:17.610 Sean obrien: We do not migrate Jim might know but. 1290 02:17:19.830 --> 02:17:21.270 Noel Johnston: I think we do know how. 1291 02:17:21.990 --> 02:17:22.740 Isabelle Duvivier: yeah cuz those. 1292 02:17:22.830 --> 02:17:25.380 Noel Johnston: 434 antsy about doing that. 1293 02:17:26.430 --> 02:17:26.520 Isabelle Duvivier: and 1294 02:17:27.240 --> 02:17:28.290 Barry Campion: Maybe we have to go. 1295 02:17:28.290 --> 02:17:30.210 Isabelle Duvivier: Everybody okay bye. 1296 02:17:30.480 --> 02:17:30.990 Michael McGuffin: bye very. 1297 02:17:31.830 --> 02:17:32.010 Good. 1298 02:17:33.330 --> 02:17:35.520 Michael McGuffin: I can't meet on August 26. 1299 02:17:36.180 --> 02:17:37.620 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay okay. 1300 02:17:37.740 --> 02:17:39.240 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: What about everybody else. 1301 02:17:40.590 --> 02:17:43.680 Isabelle Duvivier: i'm not sure i'm in town, but i'm not sure. 1302 02:17:44.430 --> 02:17:47.430 Isabelle Duvivier: Okay ya know August 26. 1303 02:17:47.550 --> 02:18:00.810 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay i'll email just the the the members of the committee and then we can come to a conclusion about which of those dates is better, maybe i'll have somebody else run the meeting. 1304 02:18:02.610 --> 02:18:04.410 Michael McGuffin: On the 19th Okay, let us know. 1305 02:18:04.680 --> 02:18:06.510 Noel Johnston: Okay i'm gonna go Sarah. 1306 02:18:06.840 --> 02:18:08.730 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay Thank you everyone. 1307 02:18:10.650 --> 02:18:13.800 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: we're now at 38 thanks. 1308 02:18:14.010 --> 02:18:15.510 Sean obrien: Thanks I know. 1309 02:18:15.810 --> 02:18:16.530 sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I all. 1310 02:18:16.920 --> 02:18:17.940 Isabelle Duvivier: Thanks for coming. 1311 02:18:22.350 --> 02:18:23.010 Isabelle Duvivier: hi mark.