WEBVTT 1 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:04.050 jim murez: Nikki i'm trying to promote you. 2 00:01:05.130 --> 00:01:05.820 jim murez: Help there you go. 3 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:12.690 jim murez: I don't see prank yet, though. 4 00:01:13.500 --> 00:01:14.040 vicki halliday: He should be. 5 00:01:15.390 --> 00:01:17.970 vicki halliday: Civil War the Watergate was left for this. 6 00:01:19.230 --> 00:01:21.420 vicki halliday: oppressive or even in America, because St. 7 00:01:22.290 --> 00:01:24.030 jim murez: joe's radio in the background. 8 00:01:25.710 --> 00:01:26.490 vicki halliday: Yes, and that's what. 9 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:28.260 trump chapter. 10 00:01:33.150 --> 00:01:34.620 jim murez: lot happening in the news. 11 00:01:35.190 --> 00:01:36.330 vicki halliday: yeah i'll say. 12 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:39.330 vicki halliday: crazy. 13 00:01:43.110 --> 00:01:46.650 jim murez: I don't know who God m is is he him his. 14 00:01:46.950 --> 00:01:48.990 vicki halliday: Let me, let me get busy here. 15 00:01:49.230 --> 00:01:51.960 jim murez: Is he a panel Oh, I need to promote you don't I. 16 00:01:52.470 --> 00:01:52.800 yeah. 17 00:01:53.970 --> 00:02:00.900 jim murez: So sort of waiting for frank, who should be a host of this, you are frank why don't I make a new post, and you can just deal with it all. 18 00:02:01.410 --> 00:02:08.850 vicki halliday: Okay okay um yeah cuz I have to prove it really run the meeting frank, I mean frank runs it here, he is. 19 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:10.470 jim murez: here. 20 00:02:11.070 --> 00:02:12.690 vicki halliday: bring him in as well. 21 00:02:12.870 --> 00:02:14.910 jim murez: yeah let me do that hold on. 22 00:02:15.090 --> 00:02:17.460 vicki halliday: And i'll need to be made come host. 23 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:20.070 jim murez: You want to be a host or co host. 24 00:02:20.100 --> 00:02:21.300 vicki halliday: Co host is fine. 25 00:02:24.540 --> 00:02:27.870 jim murez: Trying to promote him but it's not working he's got to accept. 26 00:02:30.030 --> 00:02:30.780 jim murez: varicose. 27 00:02:32.970 --> 00:02:35.880 vicki halliday: Let me get God in you've got to promote me. 28 00:02:41.040 --> 00:02:43.170 frank murphy: I hope my camera doesn't go out on me. 29 00:02:49.140 --> 00:02:49.500 jim murez: Okay. 30 00:02:51.210 --> 00:02:51.990 jim murez: You got it vicki. 31 00:02:53.040 --> 00:02:55.650 vicki halliday: And let me promote Jody. 32 00:02:57.930 --> 00:03:02.040 vicki halliday: see if that works yeah yeah i'm good Jim Thank you. 33 00:03:02.370 --> 00:03:04.170 jim murez: Okay i'll leave you guys be. 34 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:07.410 frank murphy: Thank you gotta TIM thanks. 35 00:03:07.530 --> 00:03:12.450 jim murez: I might listen in and see what's going on, because you guys have lots of stuff happening, but. 36 00:03:16.200 --> 00:03:17.730 jim murez: i'll try and behave vicki vicki. 37 00:03:33.480 --> 00:03:35.340 frank murphy: hey jodi jodi how's it gone. 38 00:03:35.730 --> 00:03:39.630 Jody M (He, Him, His): Good very good my camera may not work, it goes in and out ever since I. 39 00:03:40.770 --> 00:03:41.700 Jody M (He, Him, His): windows 11. 40 00:03:43.290 --> 00:03:43.920 frank murphy: Oh, really. 41 00:03:44.220 --> 00:03:45.990 Jody M (He, Him, His): yeah I may have to go back to windows 10. 42 00:03:53.940 --> 00:03:55.050 Jody M (He, Him, His): But I can hear you just fine. 43 00:03:56.580 --> 00:03:59.670 vicki halliday: God we've got a guy coming tonight I hope. 44 00:04:01.350 --> 00:04:14.430 vicki halliday: He confirmed a little while ago that he would his name is Steve king and he's been living in his car over at the Westminster dog park um he's a good guy he's clean he lost his wife. 45 00:04:15.450 --> 00:04:24.390 vicki halliday: And then housing or I think they lost their housing and then she died um he's just gotten a section eight voucher. 46 00:04:24.750 --> 00:04:25.860 Jody M (He, Him, His): Oh that's awesome. 47 00:04:26.070 --> 00:04:31.890 vicki halliday: Well, but he can't find any place and he doesn't even want to stay around business he's willing to go wherever. 48 00:04:32.370 --> 00:04:40.080 Jody M (He, Him, His): Oh, he shouldn't have you shouldn't have a hard time if he doesn't want to be on the West side there's plenty of places, you know out in burbank. 49 00:04:41.910 --> 00:04:47.460 Jody M (He, Him, His): You know even and like even more rural areas up by the magic mountain and stuff like. 50 00:04:47.760 --> 00:04:55.350 vicki halliday: Yes, this to him when he comes on because I think he's having a real tough time everything he seemed so far has been pretty rat infested. 51 00:04:55.740 --> 00:04:56.040 vicki halliday: yeah. 52 00:04:56.730 --> 00:05:04.170 vicki halliday: yeah that's problem yeah but he's a good guy he's been like kind of become the mayor of the parking lot. 53 00:05:04.710 --> 00:05:18.150 Jody M (He, Him, His): Well that's what it's like in in foreign countries, if you do have, if you have people that are on house and stuff they they take responsibility for keeping the area clean soda and security, unfortunately, we have very few here that do that, but it sounds like this guy's one of them. 54 00:05:18.450 --> 00:05:19.410 vicki halliday: he's one of them. 55 00:05:21.030 --> 00:05:23.490 vicki halliday: Other people calling the Westminster savior. 56 00:05:23.940 --> 00:05:24.600 Oh. 57 00:05:25.980 --> 00:05:26.970 vicki halliday: Because a delusion. 58 00:05:27.300 --> 00:05:31.080 vicki halliday: He knows every dog comes to the dog park and the owners and. 59 00:05:32.280 --> 00:05:37.980 vicki halliday: i'm you know and and keep some of the guys there and in jack. 60 00:05:39.810 --> 00:05:42.150 Jody M (He, Him, His): i'm looking forward to me and i'm afraid the. 61 00:05:43.980 --> 00:05:48.540 Jody M (He, Him, His): Larry Schneider We talked earlier was supposed to be here at 630 and he's not here so. 62 00:05:50.280 --> 00:05:53.850 Jody M (He, Him, His): we'll just hope for the whole digit put them on as a place called. 63 00:05:55.410 --> 00:06:01.290 frank murphy: yeah well if he if he kept I didn't put him in there, I mean I didn't name anybody so he's good. 64 00:06:02.580 --> 00:06:04.650 frank murphy: Later, he can join he can join. 65 00:06:05.280 --> 00:06:05.760 Jody M (He, Him, His): Okay, great. 66 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:20.250 vicki halliday: So cody I was told by Ted lose off this, the other day that all those apartments and the va campus or a lot of them are special to open I believe that's in December. 67 00:06:21.510 --> 00:06:28.110 Jody M (He, Him, His): yeah I think at least 200 are supposed to open up in December that's good 200, then the rest of following year. 68 00:06:28.530 --> 00:06:29.970 Jody M (He, Him, His): amazing yeah. 69 00:06:30.330 --> 00:06:31.050 frank murphy: that's great. 70 00:06:32.370 --> 00:06:34.770 Jody M (He, Him, His): You know they probably going to have more than there is federal. 71 00:06:36.060 --> 00:06:43.740 vicki halliday: yeah cuz I was being told way anybody, you know that the veteran they've got choices right now yeah yeah just great. 72 00:06:44.850 --> 00:06:46.710 frank murphy: yeah that's that's a good sign. 73 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:55.530 Jody M (He, Him, His): yeah i'm really hoping, I can get a job on over there, eventually, I started shared tomorrow. 74 00:06:56.130 --> 00:06:56.970 vicki halliday: Oh great. 75 00:06:57.270 --> 00:07:01.980 Jody M (He, Him, His): yeah just volunteering, so I can you know get the hours in for the certificate, but you never know. 76 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:06.660 vicki halliday: that's true but it's good to get you out there. 77 00:07:07.020 --> 00:07:08.160 frank murphy: yep yep. 78 00:07:08.670 --> 00:07:09.060 So. 79 00:07:11.100 --> 00:07:12.810 frank murphy: Contact contact contact. 80 00:07:13.170 --> 00:07:13.650 yeah. 81 00:07:18.540 --> 00:07:20.010 vicki halliday: What a crazy news day. 82 00:07:20.400 --> 00:07:21.960 vicki halliday: becky yeah. 83 00:07:22.200 --> 00:07:24.120 Jody M (He, Him, His): Would you like a pussycat a kitten. 84 00:07:24.660 --> 00:07:26.160 vicki halliday: On no, thank you. 85 00:07:28.830 --> 00:07:31.500 Jody M (He, Him, His): I love you how you know anybody that wants one. 86 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:35.370 vicki halliday: Okay, on one i'll put the word out. 87 00:07:35.850 --> 00:07:40.800 Jody M (He, Him, His): yeah I didn't listen to my mother she told me to get my to kittens fixed when I got them and. 88 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:45.150 Jody M (He, Him, His): I said yes, but I can do it and they both got out and got pregnant. 89 00:07:48.150 --> 00:07:49.290 frank murphy: canton around. 90 00:07:50.640 --> 00:07:52.290 vicki halliday: There you go here comes Liz. 91 00:07:52.890 --> 00:07:54.840 frank murphy: Right oh good. 92 00:08:00.150 --> 00:08:01.560 frank murphy: We need one more right. 93 00:08:04.530 --> 00:08:05.640 vicki halliday: yeah but it's still. 94 00:08:07.020 --> 00:08:08.820 vicki halliday: seven minutes before seven. 95 00:08:10.050 --> 00:08:12.300 frank murphy: Well, plus we can go, we can go. 96 00:08:14.460 --> 00:08:20.310 frank murphy: into the meeting, because we will motions will come up later yeah. 97 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:21.840 vicki halliday: You just wait. 98 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:23.310 vicki halliday: I less. 99 00:08:32.730 --> 00:08:35.190 frank murphy: I didn't have any links for the. 100 00:08:37.590 --> 00:08:41.580 frank murphy: For the Minutes but they're on the website. 101 00:08:44.700 --> 00:08:46.590 frank murphy: I don't have to put up a link doing. 102 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:51.060 frank murphy: yeah I didn't put them up before. 103 00:08:52.680 --> 00:08:58.770 frank murphy: And I don't know how that link wound up in there, the last time I think it might have been anyhow whatever. 104 00:09:46.290 --> 00:09:54.810 Elizabeth Wright: Okay, I have someone here, who is watching the to hearing the January six hearing so most of the time i'll be muted. 105 00:09:56.430 --> 00:09:56.850 Elizabeth Wright: Okay. 106 00:09:57.720 --> 00:09:58.650 frank murphy: No problem. 107 00:09:59.580 --> 00:10:00.060 Elizabeth Wright: Okay. 108 00:10:00.390 --> 00:10:02.850 frank murphy: there's a faster still going on. 109 00:10:03.750 --> 00:10:06.540 Elizabeth Wright: Now I recorded it that's why i'm. 110 00:10:07.050 --> 00:10:09.870 Elizabeth Wright: watching yeah today was. 111 00:10:11.490 --> 00:10:12.990 Elizabeth Wright: definitely something to watch. 112 00:10:13.110 --> 00:10:15.330 vicki halliday: It certainly was wow. 113 00:10:18.180 --> 00:10:22.080 Elizabeth Wright: I know one person who watched it twice she couldn't believe it to person. 114 00:10:22.470 --> 00:10:25.260 vicki halliday: Well, the clips i've just seen over and over and it. 115 00:10:26.460 --> 00:10:27.450 vicki halliday: it's pretty stunning. 116 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:37.590 frank murphy: I got so involved today, I totally missed it what was there anything what what happened. 117 00:10:38.040 --> 00:10:44.010 vicki halliday: Oh well, one of the mine has aids testified and just blew the lid off everything. 118 00:10:45.780 --> 00:10:48.060 vicki halliday: About um. 119 00:10:50.130 --> 00:11:02.370 vicki halliday: What happened on January six and trump's behavior on January six, including the food He threw at the White House wall and ketchup was just running down the wall and. 120 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:04.560 frank murphy: Oh God. 121 00:11:04.980 --> 00:11:05.370 yeah. 122 00:11:07.050 --> 00:11:25.020 Elizabeth Wright: yeah there were guys with ar 15 to the up in the trees outside the ellipse yeah and he wanted them to take down the magnetometers so those guys could come in and listen to him and kind of fill out the bacon spaces for a photo of. 123 00:11:25.650 --> 00:11:26.790 vicki halliday: It was unbelievable. 124 00:11:28.680 --> 00:11:35.580 vicki halliday: And then, if that part's true where he grabbed the driver the secret service guy that was pretty stunning to. 125 00:11:38.490 --> 00:11:39.090 frank murphy: driver. 126 00:11:39.510 --> 00:11:43.110 vicki halliday: yeah he wanted he wanted to go to. 127 00:11:44.160 --> 00:11:50.550 vicki halliday: The capital and the driver said it was too dangerous and he grabbed him by the neck and said he would drive. 128 00:11:53.370 --> 00:11:58.380 vicki halliday: haha so there, it was a pretty blockbuster testimony today. 129 00:12:01.980 --> 00:12:06.480 frank murphy: Well guys my damn damn camera gave out on me again. 130 00:12:10.380 --> 00:12:12.060 frank murphy: I don't know what it is with this jam. 131 00:12:13.140 --> 00:12:15.450 frank murphy: Up top, but it is not working right. 132 00:12:24.420 --> 00:12:25.770 vicki halliday: get to tech guy back in. 133 00:12:27.900 --> 00:12:32.820 frank murphy: It seems to happen on the zoom meetings here more than anyone. 134 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:37.230 frank murphy: I wonder who is trying to tell me something yeah. 135 00:12:40.620 --> 00:12:45.210 frank murphy: Okay well you got my voice he didn't want to look at me anyhow. 136 00:12:47.850 --> 00:12:48.630 frank murphy: how's it going. 137 00:12:51.150 --> 00:12:51.690 Jody M (He, Him, His): I said. 138 00:12:52.800 --> 00:12:53.940 Pat Raphael: background noise. 139 00:12:56.400 --> 00:12:57.210 frank murphy: it's there. 140 00:13:02.700 --> 00:13:06.270 frank murphy: yeah you probably need to turn probably need to mute yourself, while you're. 141 00:13:07.740 --> 00:13:10.650 frank murphy: If you're off, you know if you're not in the conversation. 142 00:13:21.330 --> 00:13:22.830 frank murphy: Who else do we have here. 143 00:13:23.340 --> 00:13:29.340 vicki halliday: When we need Brian um and we have no attendees yet so. 144 00:13:31.260 --> 00:13:32.040 vicki halliday: no hurry. 145 00:13:33.390 --> 00:13:33.990 All right. 146 00:13:43.020 --> 00:13:48.420 frank murphy: Colette said she'll be in a little bit late, as usual, she gets off work so then she saw. 147 00:13:59.070 --> 00:14:00.060 frank murphy: And Stan. 148 00:14:01.140 --> 00:14:07.830 frank murphy: Stan I gave him a heads up i'm while it was just by text because I couldn't get a hold of my voice so. 149 00:14:08.700 --> 00:14:11.280 vicki halliday: I hope he's here because I wanted him to meet Steve. 150 00:14:11.760 --> 00:14:12.840 frank murphy: yeah yeah. 151 00:14:15.390 --> 00:14:18.000 frank murphy: i'll see if he let me see if he answered me. 152 00:14:18.330 --> 00:14:20.490 vicki halliday: But I don't see Steve yet either so. 153 00:14:25.020 --> 00:14:27.450 frank murphy: Oh well, we're going to lose fan. 154 00:14:29.460 --> 00:14:33.240 frank murphy: So he's out of town he's he's occasion with his wife. 155 00:14:33.540 --> 00:14:35.250 vicki halliday: Oh, he said he was going to Arkansas. 156 00:14:35.310 --> 00:14:36.810 frank murphy: yeah we'll leave that alone. 157 00:14:38.010 --> 00:14:38.670 vicki halliday: Next up. 158 00:14:40.920 --> 00:14:41.370 frank murphy: here. 159 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:49.710 frank murphy: And Brian so he'll be in. 160 00:15:00.510 --> 00:15:02.130 frank murphy: That gets us up. 161 00:15:04.890 --> 00:15:05.940 frank murphy: To speed. 162 00:15:16.410 --> 00:15:17.730 frank murphy: No attendees. 163 00:15:22.860 --> 00:15:23.760 vicki halliday: I think people are. 164 00:15:24.570 --> 00:15:26.640 Jody M (He, Him, His): Is that mean that we're doing a good job. 165 00:15:28.110 --> 00:15:30.690 vicki halliday: I think people are just burned out from TV all day. 166 00:15:31.470 --> 00:15:36.210 frank murphy: yeah probably true plus the songs up later so. 167 00:15:37.560 --> 00:15:43.080 frank murphy: You know it's easier to do it when it's in the winter, when they when it's all blackout. 168 00:15:43.800 --> 00:15:44.160 yeah. 169 00:15:50.220 --> 00:15:53.070 frank murphy: Well, there we go, we got some money, so we got a meeting. 170 00:16:21.540 --> 00:16:24.720 frank murphy: Well let's go ahead and work our way through some of this stuff. 171 00:16:25.950 --> 00:16:26.640 frank murphy: yeah. 172 00:16:28.860 --> 00:16:29.610 vicki halliday: i'm me. 173 00:16:30.150 --> 00:16:30.690 Okay. 174 00:16:33.180 --> 00:16:36.600 frank murphy: Everybody else's muted so we'll we'll go from there. 175 00:16:38.370 --> 00:16:40.080 frank murphy: So roll call. 176 00:16:41.430 --> 00:16:42.570 frank murphy: i'm present. 177 00:16:46.260 --> 00:16:54.390 frank murphy: pants here Liz is here the keys here jody's here, so we have a quorum. 178 00:16:55.590 --> 00:16:56.280 frank murphy: and 179 00:16:59.730 --> 00:17:03.690 frank murphy: Jim may be around somewhere also and we have. 180 00:17:05.970 --> 00:17:09.270 frank murphy: So we have review comment, adopt the Minutes. 181 00:17:10.500 --> 00:17:21.960 frank murphy: From a 31 actually I should have put in the Minutes from the meeting before to we have two sets of minutes to be approved so. 182 00:17:23.940 --> 00:17:28.920 frank murphy: i'll put it on the next agenda to approve them minutes from the previous meeting. 183 00:17:30.390 --> 00:17:32.700 frank murphy: Any comment on that, on the Minutes. 184 00:17:33.570 --> 00:17:34.140 No. 185 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:36.930 frank murphy: No. 186 00:17:37.290 --> 00:17:43.740 frank murphy: No okay all right so that's so that's good chair report is down to. 187 00:17:44.970 --> 00:17:49.800 frank murphy: We have a good meeting coming up today, and hopefully we'll get some folks in. 188 00:17:52.350 --> 00:17:53.490 frank murphy: Public comment. 189 00:17:54.570 --> 00:18:04.080 frank murphy: let's move on to public comment, we got one minute on non agenda items, of course, we can take as much time as you'd like and. 190 00:18:05.280 --> 00:18:06.930 frank murphy: We have one attendee. 191 00:18:11.580 --> 00:18:12.510 frank murphy: renee. 192 00:18:13.590 --> 00:18:18.300 frank murphy: SAP chin renee you have anything you would like to comment on. 193 00:18:21.540 --> 00:18:22.950 frank murphy: take as much time as you like. 194 00:18:24.150 --> 00:18:24.630 vicki halliday: home. 195 00:18:25.770 --> 00:18:26.970 frank murphy: hi Brian so Brian. 196 00:18:28.950 --> 00:18:29.610 Brian U: Hello everybody. 197 00:18:32.490 --> 00:18:33.570 Renée Sabshin: No i'm good Thank you. 198 00:18:34.110 --> 00:18:36.270 vicki halliday: Okay renee Thank you, you bet. 199 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:38.850 frank murphy: All right, alright so. 200 00:18:40.860 --> 00:18:41.760 frank murphy: We haven't seen. 201 00:18:42.930 --> 00:18:43.920 frank murphy: Steve King yet. 202 00:18:44.820 --> 00:18:46.140 vicki halliday: i'm watching. 203 00:18:46.620 --> 00:18:47.010 alright. 204 00:18:48.060 --> 00:18:49.200 frank murphy: So we can move on. 205 00:18:52.560 --> 00:18:54.420 frank murphy: We have one motion. 206 00:18:55.530 --> 00:18:56.790 frank murphy: To the motions because. 207 00:18:57.990 --> 00:19:14.070 frank murphy: it's just okay with everybody I didn't verify it so if it's okay with everybody will move the homeless wrong table talk a little bit later time so that we can accommodate Steve King or anybody else who may show up Is that alright with everybody. 208 00:19:14.490 --> 00:19:15.720 frank murphy: Yes, okay. 209 00:19:16.830 --> 00:19:21.300 frank murphy: So we have Jody you you presented a. 210 00:19:24.060 --> 00:19:31.830 frank murphy: One of the things that I wanted to say, real quick on the Chair report is that my camera isn't working so I apologize you don't have my image. 211 00:19:34.590 --> 00:19:43.320 frank murphy: of God you're you have emotion of that one that needs to be heard and. 212 00:19:44.730 --> 00:19:46.950 frank murphy: I would like, for you to go ahead and. 213 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:51.990 frank murphy: Read the motion and then we'll we'll go to. 214 00:19:53.850 --> 00:19:56.550 frank murphy: Make the motion and then have a second. 215 00:19:57.390 --> 00:19:58.080 frank murphy: Okay, thank you. 216 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:00.780 Jody M (He, Him, His): Okay, can you hear me can everybody yes. 217 00:20:01.050 --> 00:20:12.450 Jody M (He, Him, His): yeah um whereas an obstacle to the Venice on house residents to improve their living situations and obtain services is that there are no safe places for them to store their personal. 218 00:20:13.530 --> 00:20:19.110 Jody M (He, Him, His): important documents and small essential items for periods of time during daylight hours. 219 00:20:19.650 --> 00:20:26.250 Jody M (He, Him, His): Whereas David errors day visitors from elsewhere, while in the water swimming or surfing have no secure place. 220 00:20:26.670 --> 00:20:32.430 Jody M (He, Him, His): For important items, other than their vehicles which are most likely parked a significant distance from the beach. 221 00:20:33.120 --> 00:20:46.050 Jody M (He, Him, His): And one more whereas Dave visitors that take public transportation also are greatly inconvenience, not to have a secure place to store important items, while visiting the beach, and then, therefore. 222 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:54.780 Jody M (He, Him, His): provide safe and secure lockers for the local on house and day beach visitors at various sites near the Venice Venice boardwalk. 223 00:20:55.320 --> 00:21:08.340 Jody M (He, Him, His): These lockers of various sizes can be can incorporate the airport and train station temporary locker model, or even the Marina del rey condominium bike lockers example, and that would be it. 224 00:21:10.320 --> 00:21:12.450 frank murphy: And we would want to present that to. 225 00:21:13.260 --> 00:21:34.560 Jody M (He, Him, His): A la hsa the La jolla of sanitation la county parks and recs councilman Mike bonnen lapd Council Council of poverty and homeless committee the Department of Health and county supervisor sheila kaylee hey hi katie. 226 00:21:37.080 --> 00:21:38.760 Jody M (He, Him, His): K hai Ki. 227 00:21:39.150 --> 00:21:40.590 Jody M (He, Him, His): Ki oh yeah. 228 00:21:41.310 --> 00:21:41.820 Jody M (He, Him, His): Okay that's it. 229 00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:44.370 frank murphy: Okay. 230 00:21:47.610 --> 00:21:48.120 frank murphy: i'll make. 231 00:21:53.130 --> 00:21:55.230 frank murphy: Green is your second on emotion, though. 232 00:21:56.010 --> 00:21:56.340 OK. 233 00:21:57.540 --> 00:21:57.960 frank murphy: OK. 234 00:22:11.580 --> 00:22:14.100 frank murphy: OK, we got a new Cantona Charlie stands up. 235 00:22:17.760 --> 00:22:20.310 vicki halliday: Go ahead Nick hold on here. 236 00:22:27.180 --> 00:22:28.200 vicki halliday: There you go ahead. 237 00:22:31.980 --> 00:22:39.240 Nick Antonicello: lockers are you thinking about and maybe want to incorporate the number of lockers into the motion. 238 00:22:40.290 --> 00:22:42.930 Nick Antonicello: And what location, are you looking at. 239 00:22:44.010 --> 00:22:48.780 Nick Antonicello: People nodes in the beach going to be an open public area. 240 00:22:49.980 --> 00:22:53.220 Nick Antonicello: Just curious as to location and the number of. 241 00:22:54.780 --> 00:23:03.930 Nick Antonicello: The need for something like this, the number of lockers that would accommodate those who need this kind of service back. 242 00:23:06.150 --> 00:23:06.870 frank murphy: Thanks Nick. 243 00:23:08.940 --> 00:23:11.640 Jody M (He, Him, His): Should I answer what what we had thought about. 244 00:23:12.330 --> 00:23:13.890 frank murphy: will answer that later. 245 00:23:13.950 --> 00:23:18.750 frank murphy: So okay sounds good, put it, make sure you know you know what what he was trying to address. 246 00:23:23.520 --> 00:23:24.720 frank murphy: How we got Lisa redmen. 247 00:23:25.380 --> 00:23:27.330 vicki halliday: I yeah hang on. 248 00:23:29.490 --> 00:23:30.330 vicki halliday: Go ahead Lisa. 249 00:23:32.070 --> 00:23:43.110 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: um well, I really appreciate the idea behind this motion I don't think it goes far enough, because ideally jodi I believe you're trying to do it, to help. 250 00:23:43.950 --> 00:23:52.230 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: The unhealthiest stakeholders of Venice, but it really is written more for like oh yeah because tourists are here to let's take care of them. 251 00:23:54.750 --> 00:24:04.530 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: So here's my problem one because you're addressing it to tourists It really should be more of an ocean front walk issue to. 252 00:24:05.670 --> 00:24:11.790 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: It really there should be just lockers period for unhealthy people. 253 00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:20.010 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And it shouldn't necessarily be at the beach maybe we could have some at the beach maybe they could be in another place in Venice as well. 254 00:24:21.150 --> 00:24:27.300 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Because people need to keep their papers, because they are being swept. 255 00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:36.570 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: All the time and it's going to get more so, people are going to fight this that you have it on the beach because everyone's trying real hard to keep on house people off the beach. 256 00:24:37.230 --> 00:24:50.220 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I would prefer that this motion was designed just demanding that there be spaces for unhealthy people to keep permanent storage areas and have permanent storage areas in Venice. 257 00:24:51.270 --> 00:24:57.570 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: What other people worry about the tourists that's Nice, I really don't think on house, people are going to use. 258 00:24:58.230 --> 00:25:03.810 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Storage that are meant for tourists because vice versa, those things that really only designed to us for a couple hours. 259 00:25:04.260 --> 00:25:13.620 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And so people that are unhealthy and want to keep their private papers and important items it's going to need to be a lot more durable and watched. 260 00:25:14.100 --> 00:25:26.580 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Then just you know, take a key like at an airport locker and walk away so I appreciate the idea, but I don't feel it goes far enough under all consideration of the House needs, thank you. 261 00:25:27.810 --> 00:25:28.560 frank murphy: Thanks Lisa. 262 00:25:28.800 --> 00:25:32.940 vicki halliday: Thank you i'm gonna one more hand up here hold. 263 00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:37.770 vicki halliday: Colin user. 264 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:45.450 vicki halliday: Go ahead. 265 00:25:46.650 --> 00:25:47.100 hi. 266 00:25:49.770 --> 00:25:51.240 Call-In User_1: hi I used to say in Venice. 267 00:25:52.560 --> 00:25:58.980 Call-In User_1: I I had some ideas with the lockers thing I think everybody needs lockers when they go to the. 268 00:25:59.880 --> 00:26:08.550 Call-In User_1: Face I mean doesn't help a lot of people and the city has a great program with the metro stations, they have like the big bike lockers. 269 00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:15.000 Call-In User_1: And they're pretty cheap and affordable, but there's some barriers to like getting them like I think you need. 270 00:26:15.600 --> 00:26:22.860 Call-In User_1: a shack or like a credit card or something, it would be cool if there were more of those and if they were easier to get and teach. 271 00:26:23.460 --> 00:26:32.850 Call-In User_1: I think they're only like $25 for six months, or something they're really cool that you're supposed to be able to keep your bike in your bike parts and it's like something stuffing them when you're riding around on the metro. 272 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:36.120 Call-In User_1: For like homeless people suggestions. 273 00:26:38.130 --> 00:26:46.290 Call-In User_1: I think that, like regular extra space, I think, has its location right there, why not just vouchers like so they can use regular storage units. 274 00:26:47.370 --> 00:26:59.490 Call-In User_1: I don't think public space is, I know it's my stairs and like moving the city's program they tend to be just as much money as regular private or public storage fixes it Thank you. 275 00:27:05.040 --> 00:27:07.530 frank murphy: Thank you Ruth um. 276 00:27:09.390 --> 00:27:10.920 frank murphy: anybody else want to comment. 277 00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:14.820 frank murphy: Okay. 278 00:27:15.930 --> 00:27:18.030 frank murphy: So let's move it over to the committee. 279 00:27:24.990 --> 00:27:30.600 frank murphy: I think nick's it, you know, we need to get a number of lockers um. 280 00:27:35.550 --> 00:27:37.500 frank murphy: It wouldn't be a fully developed. 281 00:27:39.840 --> 00:27:50.880 frank murphy: motion that are fully developed solution at this time it's a an attempt to get something going on this is this. 282 00:27:52.080 --> 00:27:53.490 frank murphy: Does this need to be. 283 00:27:54.570 --> 00:28:04.800 frank murphy: That well defined at this point in time would be my question I like the idea that Ruth brought up about the metro example that's a. 284 00:28:06.210 --> 00:28:10.380 frank murphy: that's that's really interesting and lisas. 285 00:28:12.660 --> 00:28:24.720 frank murphy: That would be that's it that's an interesting, we need to suck resolve that I don't want to see it only for homeless, but I do, but there are problems of having it. 286 00:28:25.410 --> 00:28:39.300 frank murphy: For homeless that are different than for the people coming to the beach, you know for day us so that's a that's a an issue that needs to be addressed within this same motion or. 287 00:28:40.410 --> 00:28:42.060 frank murphy: around this same motion. 288 00:28:46.860 --> 00:28:47.430 frank murphy: Elizabeth. 289 00:28:53.370 --> 00:28:56.130 Elizabeth Wright: i'm confused about what size. 290 00:28:57.450 --> 00:29:01.680 Elizabeth Wright: of space is being talked about, because it starts out with documents. 291 00:29:02.820 --> 00:29:06.480 Elizabeth Wright: And documents didn't sides of a safe deposit box. 292 00:29:08.190 --> 00:29:08.700 Elizabeth Wright: and 293 00:29:10.140 --> 00:29:18.180 Elizabeth Wright: There are no lockers anymore in grand Central Station there are no lockers and airports and that's because of what people were putting in them. 294 00:29:19.740 --> 00:29:21.300 Elizabeth Wright: And what people could put in. 295 00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:32.040 Elizabeth Wright: You will have the same issues wherever you put them if you if you're talking about regular size lockers. 296 00:29:34.290 --> 00:29:38.340 Elizabeth Wright: So do we really want to say they've got to be a big. 297 00:29:39.450 --> 00:29:41.550 Elizabeth Wright: Or are we talking about documents. 298 00:29:43.980 --> 00:29:44.670 Elizabeth Wright: Like the. 299 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:57.930 Elizabeth Wright: The birth certificate the the document you need in order to function in this world your driver's license per ticket social security card medicare card all of that kind of stuff. 300 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:00.720 Jody M (He, Him, His): If I may speak. 301 00:30:01.410 --> 00:30:11.100 Jody M (He, Him, His): On that term yeah I think I do agree with Elizabeth on that, especially when it comes to the homeless lockers they really went out looking for storage units for their. 302 00:30:11.520 --> 00:30:22.200 Jody M (He, Him, His): For their for their bikes or for anything larger you know, for their televisions and stuff like that, but i'm simply speaking about documents and you're right, it could be something as small as a little gym locker. 303 00:30:23.280 --> 00:30:32.310 Jody M (He, Him, His): And that does restrict things on what they can put in it, as far as the lockers for day used for the beach I just thought it might be a good, you know. 304 00:30:33.030 --> 00:30:40.410 Jody M (He, Him, His): A part of this, because it can also generate some funds in and is convenient for people at the beach as well, but my main. 305 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:51.300 Jody M (He, Him, His): My main push on this was exactly those small little lockers for individuals that keep losing their drivers licenses keep losing these things just somewhere, they can put some stuff or copies. 306 00:30:51.780 --> 00:31:02.970 Jody M (He, Him, His): Of stuff and I think the first place, is that we need to know will be where you know find out where they would go first it has the first step, you know I guess. 307 00:31:03.780 --> 00:31:06.480 Elizabeth Wright: I think first we have to figure out what it is we're asking for. 308 00:31:08.610 --> 00:31:13.410 Elizabeth Wright: Because dealing with homeless, knowing that there are many who. 309 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:16.590 Elizabeth Wright: Have issues with memory. 310 00:31:19.950 --> 00:31:24.540 Elizabeth Wright: If they're going to be combination locks you think they're going to remember combinations. 311 00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:25.920 Jody M (He, Him, His): Oh no, no, no, no. 312 00:31:26.010 --> 00:31:29.040 Elizabeth Wright: No well if they have keys. 313 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.250 Elizabeth Wright: I think i'll be able to keep track of the keys. 314 00:31:34.620 --> 00:31:40.620 Elizabeth Wright: Or is it going to be something that is monitored, where they go up and say here's who I am. 315 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:47.280 Elizabeth Wright: And I can prove who I am by I don't know looking at your eyeball or. 316 00:31:47.940 --> 00:31:54.840 Elizabeth Wright: Whatever it is, but I can prove who I am and therefore I want access to blind belongings. 317 00:31:57.090 --> 00:32:06.000 Jody M (He, Him, His): Well, what I originally was thinking of was sort of those those again the the gym locker type of locks on there was just a. 318 00:32:06.690 --> 00:32:17.670 Jody M (He, Him, His): it's a three code law number, and then, if there's a problem, and they forget him it's easily the like the attended at the gym just coming open it with a with a master key for them. 319 00:32:20.460 --> 00:32:23.460 Elizabeth Wright: Okay, and then that says that these lockers have to be attended. 320 00:32:24.390 --> 00:32:33.270 Jody M (He, Him, His): Well, what we had thought is that we have our private security already one of the one of their collateral duties could be. 321 00:32:34.320 --> 00:32:36.660 Jody M (He, Him, His): You know, helping somebody with the lockout. 322 00:32:40.020 --> 00:32:41.340 Jody M (He, Him, His): They would have a master key. 323 00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:49.170 frank murphy: Brian you got. 324 00:32:51.300 --> 00:32:55.260 Elizabeth Wright: The committee is where all this stuff needs to be decided. 325 00:32:55.350 --> 00:32:57.600 frank murphy: yeah yeah okay I hurry. 326 00:32:59.220 --> 00:32:59.670 frank murphy: Right. 327 00:33:08.490 --> 00:33:10.860 frank murphy: hang up hang on just a second fat. 328 00:33:14.250 --> 00:33:14.730 frank murphy: Brian. 329 00:33:16.380 --> 00:33:19.020 Brian U: i'm sorry i'd said but pack because he had his hand up for. 330 00:33:19.080 --> 00:33:19.830 frank murphy: Oh i'm sorry. 331 00:33:20.610 --> 00:33:23.550 Brian U: that's what I that's what I was trying to do, I just. 332 00:33:23.940 --> 00:33:25.590 frank murphy: know I just I didn't hear you yeah. 333 00:33:26.910 --> 00:33:33.090 Pat Raphael: I also thought you might have been caught my attention was diverted because I am on the board along but. 334 00:33:34.500 --> 00:33:54.450 Pat Raphael: The reason i'm voting for this is because we're looking for solutions for things we're saying, our problem in one of the things that's a problem is there's clutter everywhere right, so I would even go in the other direction from Elizabeth and say let's make him like like like. 335 00:33:57.510 --> 00:34:08.940 Pat Raphael: Like a bin size, so that within the bin size, you can store all your stuff and then now that your stuff is stored, we can be more direct about. 336 00:34:09.390 --> 00:34:19.440 Pat Raphael: Dealing with clutter on the street i'm saying if we don't offer a solution, and then we only do this thick it doesn't seem like we're really trying to. 337 00:34:20.130 --> 00:34:27.870 Pat Raphael: Try to meet people halfway, so I do understand part of the problem might be somebody might bring something in the locker that's. 338 00:34:28.410 --> 00:34:39.780 Pat Raphael: That that shouldn't be there right, we can have clear rules and things that signage but at the same time let's not make the policy based on the person that's going to break the rules or the bad behavior. 339 00:34:40.380 --> 00:34:48.600 Pat Raphael: Right let's make the policy with the with the intention in the possibility that it's going to help everybody and then have. 340 00:34:49.800 --> 00:35:08.220 Pat Raphael: Like clear rules and clear expectations and if people are existing outside of that we have mechanisms to deal with that too right but, but I feel like the approach to be yes, this is another way to help, and not only the street people like I heard, I think, God said it would also help. 341 00:35:09.720 --> 00:35:23.430 Pat Raphael: That you know made by some art or buy something that speaking of it, without having to go all the way to the North or the South parking lot, so this is one of the ideas that I think as people care, we should consider as a yes vote. 342 00:35:25.650 --> 00:35:28.080 frank murphy: Great but it needs to be. 343 00:35:29.970 --> 00:35:45.390 frank murphy: i'm hearing what you're saying, but it needs to be real well much needs to be defined a little different differently, because this is intended for a much smaller shorter term type of thing um. 344 00:35:46.860 --> 00:35:58.440 frank murphy: you're talking about some of the issues that brian's been working for vicki's been working on and everybody else has been working on now for damn near a decade. 345 00:35:59.310 --> 00:36:17.910 frank murphy: So anyhow um and I, and I agree we need to resolve both of them, but I don't I don't I I hesitate to want to have something be too aggressive where it doesn't then get enacted, for any reason. 346 00:36:19.110 --> 00:36:19.950 Brian. 347 00:36:21.420 --> 00:36:24.780 Brian U: Thank you and thank everybody um I. 348 00:36:26.520 --> 00:36:37.110 Brian U: I think it's a two way street, so I think it's a word we pat's group wants to have lockers we want people to have lockers so it's a it's a win for both people. 349 00:36:37.500 --> 00:36:49.560 Brian U: I would suggest that because we're the homeless committee that we function strictly on this issue, as it relates to the homeless lockers and let the boardwalk Committee or the ocean front walk committee deal with public lockers for the public. 350 00:36:50.130 --> 00:36:57.840 Brian U: My my thought on this is, if you want a locker you should be one of our registered. 351 00:36:59.040 --> 00:37:00.030 Brian U: On house people. 352 00:37:01.650 --> 00:37:12.420 Brian U: St joseph's Center does outreach St Joseph Center should have each person's name filled out in the coordinated entry system St Joseph has four or 500 supposedly. 353 00:37:13.740 --> 00:37:24.900 Brian U: People registered at their building to receive mail or things like that, so I would recommend that we put 50 lockers in four different quadrants of. 354 00:37:25.590 --> 00:37:32.760 Brian U: of our city of Venice, so that people could go to each and if you'd fill out a coordinated entry system. 355 00:37:33.540 --> 00:37:42.240 Brian U: program and you're registered as a person that's trying to help yourself and and we're going to help you to and help you store your stuff so he. 356 00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:52.140 Brian U: Again, four locations around Venice so it's convenient to go, you have to be registered with St Joseph Center is a person that seeking help. 357 00:37:53.010 --> 00:38:05.460 Brian U: Once you register and that you'll get a a code number or whatever that allows you to go to one of those four locations sign in show who you are, that you can use a locker if you need to move you go to another part of the city. 358 00:38:05.790 --> 00:38:11.490 Brian U: But let's make it organized let's put the onus on St Joseph Center it shouldn't be expensive. 359 00:38:13.620 --> 00:38:17.790 Brian U: Or we put storage in the bridge housing location, because there's nothing but room. 360 00:38:18.570 --> 00:38:28.590 Brian U: The homeless committee for years ago with with will we passed a homeless storage program that went to the city and not when we're back in three or four years. 361 00:38:28.950 --> 00:38:42.690 Brian U: So that's back when we were dealing with the 60 gallon containers that any on house person could move their container around the city, it would have a chip in it that would allow each person to be identified. 362 00:38:44.160 --> 00:38:54.180 Brian U: anyways let's make it organized let's put the onus on St Joseph Center let's put the lockers that are available only for the people that are registered to receive services in our city. 363 00:38:55.590 --> 00:38:56.070 frank murphy: alright. 364 00:38:57.990 --> 00:39:04.530 frank murphy: Well, let me, let me, let me propose something God sounds like we need to. 365 00:39:06.210 --> 00:39:12.810 frank murphy: We need to define this a lot more specifically, and we need to. 366 00:39:14.340 --> 00:39:17.370 frank murphy: Bring pat and Brian into the conversation and let's. 367 00:39:18.660 --> 00:39:19.170 frank murphy: let's. 368 00:39:20.820 --> 00:39:28.350 frank murphy: Read here this one, and maybe we can rewrite it for the next meeting would that be something that's acceptable. 369 00:39:29.520 --> 00:39:40.230 Jody M (He, Him, His): It sure is, and I did like what Brian had to say that's probably the bridge housing is a great place to start putting it as you already have access to that. 370 00:39:44.430 --> 00:39:46.980 Pat Raphael: But also guys do we wouldn't lose another. 371 00:39:52.230 --> 00:39:59.820 Brian U: pat pat and just unrealistic basis, are we going to lose a month now, but it's going to take a year for the city to get you lockers. 372 00:40:01.110 --> 00:40:12.510 Brian U: it's on a on a best case scenario, so we're putting something for us to put the onus on city council and the dnc but wait in another month isn't going to get you lockers and August. 373 00:40:12.750 --> 00:40:20.040 frank murphy: yeah and also it's best that we define it better for the city, because if we leave it up to them, nothing will ever happen. 374 00:40:20.310 --> 00:40:20.670 Right. 375 00:40:24.300 --> 00:40:28.440 Brian U: Again we're gonna make a motion passed to give it the dnc they're going to hand it up the street. 376 00:40:28.740 --> 00:40:30.210 Brian U: you're not gonna we're not buying them. 377 00:40:32.100 --> 00:40:33.120 Brian U: Just an fyi. 378 00:40:34.230 --> 00:40:34.800 frank murphy: Okay. 379 00:40:36.270 --> 00:40:36.750 Brian U: Thank you. 380 00:40:37.590 --> 00:40:43.290 frank murphy: vicki how do I do we take, we don't take a vote on this we just table it until the next meeting. 381 00:40:43.470 --> 00:40:48.510 frank murphy: Exactly okay all right so that's okay with you God that's. 382 00:40:49.770 --> 00:40:51.540 frank murphy: Where really at all right. 383 00:40:52.200 --> 00:40:54.570 frank murphy: All right, guys will represent our next. 384 00:40:55.410 --> 00:41:03.600 vicki halliday: meeting I noticed that i'm Steve has joined us Steve i'm a guy that I know from Westminster part. 385 00:41:04.080 --> 00:41:04.740 frank murphy: All right. 386 00:41:04.980 --> 00:41:12.810 vicki halliday: Do what I wanted to come talk tonight, a Steve would you hit star nine and are here, let me going to. 387 00:41:14.340 --> 00:41:15.870 vicki halliday: allow you to talk. 388 00:41:19.140 --> 00:41:20.970 vicki halliday: Talking is permitted. 389 00:41:24.630 --> 00:41:25.680 vicki halliday: Welcome Steve. 390 00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:27.360 Brian U: So take us mute off. 391 00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:33.510 vicki halliday: yeah you need to unmute hit star nine on your phone. 392 00:41:50.310 --> 00:41:52.350 vicki halliday: There he goes right. 393 00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:54.720 vicki halliday: Talking is permitted. 394 00:41:59.160 --> 00:42:01.140 Brian U: Still on the zoom screen. 395 00:42:01.560 --> 00:42:08.130 vicki halliday: yeah I don't know I mean, because in on the i've got talking is permitted next to his name so. 396 00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:10.050 frank murphy: Ah star nine. 397 00:42:11.700 --> 00:42:12.390 frank murphy: Is the. 398 00:42:12.930 --> 00:42:14.370 frank murphy: yep access. 399 00:42:19.620 --> 00:42:21.480 vicki halliday: Yes, Steve can you hit star nine. 400 00:42:25.290 --> 00:42:26.160 vicki halliday: me texting. 401 00:43:14.820 --> 00:43:15.210 1323****821: Hello. 402 00:43:15.690 --> 00:43:16.470 vicki halliday: Oh hey Steve. 403 00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:21.600 1323****821: How are you i'm not i'm not technologically savvy. 404 00:43:22.680 --> 00:43:36.390 vicki halliday: that's okay thanks for thanks for being here um you know I told frank, the chairman of the committee, a little bit about what you've been through and what you've been through at Westminster part but um. 405 00:43:37.230 --> 00:43:44.100 vicki halliday: I would like, for a lot of people here tonight to sort of hear your story and sort of where you've landed at the moment. 406 00:43:45.270 --> 00:43:45.840 1323****821: Because well. 407 00:43:47.370 --> 00:43:49.350 1323****821: i'm on march nine. 408 00:43:50.460 --> 00:43:59.640 1323****821: Little backstory my wife used to volunteer at the senior Center there, and she passed away my tonight 2021. 409 00:44:00.810 --> 00:44:01.440 1323****821: and 410 00:44:02.580 --> 00:44:09.750 1323****821: before she passed away I used to bring her down for a doctor's appointments and that place was a disaster, it was a nightmare. 411 00:44:10.860 --> 00:44:12.540 1323****821: And it would bring tears to your eyes. 412 00:44:14.070 --> 00:44:16.770 1323****821: Her and I have been in this Community for about 45 years. 413 00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.400 1323****821: And the day after she died. 414 00:44:21.900 --> 00:44:25.080 1323****821: I had to take care of her sister lives in the bombs area. 415 00:44:26.160 --> 00:44:36.720 1323****821: And I came down to the park and I asked a few unhappy people that don't do drugs don't steal everything that is in nailed down, and I said let's clean this place for Lisa. 416 00:44:38.310 --> 00:44:39.870 1323****821: And we've cleaned it three times. 417 00:44:41.940 --> 00:44:48.210 1323****821: Women they bring their kids there they bring their dogs there they picnic there now right. 418 00:44:49.350 --> 00:44:56.160 1323****821: i've got people there at all times the urban alchemy people kind of get in the way but i've worked at an agreement with them. 419 00:44:57.600 --> 00:45:00.570 1323****821: And then on April 15 my niece was murdered. 420 00:45:03.510 --> 00:45:08.910 1323****821: And, basically, I just do what I do in honor of my wife. 421 00:45:10.980 --> 00:45:12.690 vicki halliday: He lost your housing right. 422 00:45:14.100 --> 00:45:25.290 1323****821: I basically when I lost her way we're living in Arizona the giant just coming back and forth, and I spent a lot of money to try to clean up that part. 423 00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:38.760 1323****821: Whatever whatever I had left, and now I live in my car, but you know I I tried to door dash I mean i've been sober for 14 years you know and trying to get housing it's been a nightmare. 424 00:45:39.690 --> 00:45:47.310 vicki halliday: I think one of the interesting things that I wanted you to talk to people about is that he finally got a section eight voucher. 425 00:45:48.150 --> 00:45:49.620 1323****821: yeah that's great. 426 00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:50.880 1323****821: But yeah. 427 00:45:51.030 --> 00:45:51.960 vicki halliday: i'm anything. 428 00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:57.540 1323****821: yeah well I, I see a psychiatrist at the edelman Center. 429 00:45:58.650 --> 00:46:04.500 1323****821: And I have a case manager over there and i've been seeing them for 12 years you know to hold on to my sobriety. 430 00:46:05.730 --> 00:46:06.300 1323****821: and 431 00:46:07.770 --> 00:46:12.630 1323****821: You know they're helping me trying to get a place because they want me out a year. 432 00:46:13.980 --> 00:46:15.420 1323****821: Because it's kind of like tough. 433 00:46:17.070 --> 00:46:21.030 1323****821: You know i'm trying to i'm trying to keep it loose one place clean. 434 00:46:21.660 --> 00:46:22.020 Right. 435 00:46:23.340 --> 00:46:23.850 Jody M (He, Him, His): Okay. 436 00:46:25.590 --> 00:46:26.310 1323****821: Excuse me. 437 00:46:27.330 --> 00:46:30.690 Jody M (He, Him, His): Have you thought about this is God, have you thought about collaborative housing. 438 00:46:32.460 --> 00:46:34.800 1323****821: I couldn't quite understand the question my phone broke up. 439 00:46:37.740 --> 00:46:40.110 frank murphy: God solid amount of collaborative housing. 440 00:46:41.340 --> 00:46:43.470 1323****821: What do you mean collaborative as an. 441 00:46:45.870 --> 00:46:46.830 1323****821: iou dogs. 442 00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:52.020 Jody M (He, Him, His): Brian maybe i'll explain it a little bit better than I can't. 443 00:46:53.070 --> 00:46:53.490 1323****821: Okay. 444 00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.520 Brian U: yeah it does work with to docs that collaborative. 445 00:46:56.610 --> 00:46:57.150 1323****821: Is. 446 00:46:57.210 --> 00:46:57.960 Brian U: Is sharing a. 447 00:46:58.200 --> 00:47:00.540 Brian U: home in rooms with roommates. 448 00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:08.010 1323****821: yeah now, I have two dogs and my psychiatrist the damn I have ptsd and there might be dogs and. 449 00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:22.860 Brian U: And there, and there are there are there are places to do take dogs and there are apartments and things in the system that do take animals it's just that the shared collaborative paths that we have we only have one pet friendly house and there's no real right now okay yeah. 450 00:47:23.130 --> 00:47:23.400 yeah. 451 00:47:25.980 --> 00:47:35.580 1323****821: yeah so that's basically my story, I mean if, if I can keep it clean, I can be keep apart clean I don't see why. 452 00:47:36.390 --> 00:47:50.820 1323****821: there's this mess, I mean I understand homelessness I understand that you know it's starting to take advantage of the situation and it's a mess, I mean there's no reason why there should be a full on structure across from Mars auto body. 453 00:47:52.920 --> 00:48:06.210 Pat Raphael: I think it's interesting that you are in the park with a group of guys that I know very well that a long time ago, the reason they said there is because they made up their minds, they didn't want to be around drugs and talking about. 454 00:48:06.270 --> 00:48:06.900 Exactly. 455 00:48:08.940 --> 00:48:12.030 Pat Raphael: Hassan, and all those guys right so. 456 00:48:12.090 --> 00:48:13.230 1323****821: Those are my guys there. 457 00:48:13.350 --> 00:48:23.430 Pat Raphael: is a community of people that want something that is that is often what people want as well in there, the first. 458 00:48:24.870 --> 00:48:28.710 Pat Raphael: Maybe blast or a line of contact between some of the chaos. 459 00:48:29.040 --> 00:48:29.370 So. 460 00:48:31.170 --> 00:48:34.680 frank murphy: Can we can we let Steve expand on that. 461 00:48:38.970 --> 00:48:49.590 1323****821: As on cliff eric's no longer there there's a couple other guys there right and they actually take pride in a place now okay. 462 00:48:51.180 --> 00:49:03.810 1323****821: We don't allow nonsense right the neighbors appreciate it, I mean there was a couple out there that use the scream and yell every morning last year and I bought him a ban, just to get them out of there. 463 00:49:05.910 --> 00:49:13.110 1323****821: You know it's it's just it's just a place where we keep it clean. 464 00:49:14.610 --> 00:49:21.690 1323****821: And you know we just don't allow sometimes stuff goes off and I usually try to handle it in a diplomatic way and it usually works. 465 00:49:25.560 --> 00:49:26.820 Jody M (He, Him, His): May I ask another question. 466 00:49:27.570 --> 00:49:28.020 sure. 467 00:49:29.100 --> 00:49:34.200 Jody M (He, Him, His): it's still again so you do have your voucher and so. 468 00:49:35.610 --> 00:49:45.720 Jody M (He, Him, His): First of all, thank you for what you're doing there and being sober on the streets is no easy task it's a lot of courage that what you're you're showing justin, thank you for coming to for the board for the committee. 469 00:49:46.830 --> 00:49:53.010 Jody M (He, Him, His): Do you have a a social worker that is currently helping you to look. 470 00:49:54.030 --> 00:49:55.980 Jody M (He, Him, His): For housing in it, and if you're. 471 00:49:57.240 --> 00:50:09.630 Jody M (He, Him, His): If I think vicki was saying that you're insured, not even interested in staying on the West side so you're looking at, maybe even going into North Hollywood maybe even further away up at the Lancaster because there you could probably get into a place right away up there. 472 00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:12.210 1323****821: yeah they're actually looking for a. 473 00:50:13.380 --> 00:50:17.430 1323****821: For a county Roger for me, so I can get like down into whittier. 474 00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:19.170 1323****821: Because that's. 475 00:50:20.340 --> 00:50:20.790 Jody M (He, Him, His): Okay. 476 00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:22.770 1323****821: That that's what they're trying to get me. 477 00:50:23.430 --> 00:50:36.690 1323****821: yeah they need a county by why need a genuine because i've met some people in whittier and they're very nice they you know they have families and it's you know they you don't you don't see this madness. 478 00:50:38.370 --> 00:50:39.180 1323****821: problem on on the. 479 00:50:39.300 --> 00:50:41.610 Jody M (He, Him, His): On changing that over county that's a pretty easy deal. 480 00:50:42.510 --> 00:50:46.410 1323****821: I wish, if you could help me do it, I would more than appreciate it. 481 00:50:48.300 --> 00:50:48.900 Jody M (He, Him, His): sounds good. 482 00:50:50.670 --> 00:50:59.100 1323****821: I mean I I think i've done, all I can hear but i'll keep doing it for as long as it takes but it's kind of sucking the life out of me. 483 00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:05.010 vicki halliday: Steve I will text you jody's our contact information. 484 00:51:06.090 --> 00:51:07.140 1323****821: Oh God. 485 00:51:08.250 --> 00:51:12.960 Jody M (He, Him, His): yeah that's fine and we live, very close to each other, I write down of Westminster almost every day, a couple. 486 00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:13.140 times. 487 00:51:15.990 --> 00:51:16.710 1323****821: would be fine. 488 00:51:17.490 --> 00:51:18.480 vicki halliday: That that would be. 489 00:51:27.060 --> 00:51:27.930 1323****821: yeah Thank you. 490 00:51:30.090 --> 00:51:32.370 Pat Raphael: I hope I meet you out there, one of these days. 491 00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:36.660 1323****821: Well i'm always at the dog park everybody knows me. 492 00:51:42.750 --> 00:51:44.490 frank murphy: Steve yeah. 493 00:51:44.940 --> 00:51:45.360 What. 494 00:51:46.980 --> 00:51:49.320 frank murphy: Would you recommend. 495 00:51:51.300 --> 00:52:14.040 frank murphy: on an ongoing basis that needs and once that you're observing with with a lot of the folks what is it that we can do that can facilitate people getting into the housing and etc, etc right, I understand where you're coming from, how do you see the. 496 00:52:15.660 --> 00:52:25.470 frank murphy: You know what are some of the issues that that the Community as a whole can help to mitigate some of this, the. 497 00:52:27.060 --> 00:52:29.400 frank murphy: problematic issues. 498 00:52:30.300 --> 00:52:33.030 frank murphy: Consequences consequences yeah. 499 00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:47.250 1323****821: god's of clients, is, I am sober because the judge gave me a choice and he saved my life, he gave me the opportunity of six months in an in house rehab or three years in state prison. 500 00:52:49.200 --> 00:52:52.200 1323****821: I took the rehab I wanted to change. 501 00:52:53.280 --> 00:53:05.190 1323****821: And when I was holding my dead wife and my arms yeah I mean did the thought crossed my mind, of course, it did, but I, I will never do that again because sobriety is first and foremost. 502 00:53:07.410 --> 00:53:08.250 1323****821: You. 503 00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:10.740 1323****821: How many people you get you get. 504 00:53:10.740 --> 00:53:12.900 Brian U: to sign something that says the same thing. 505 00:53:14.310 --> 00:53:22.710 1323****821: I, I have no idea I mean i'm helping a good right now, every month, he gets a chip he comes and shows it to me and I call his mom. 506 00:53:23.790 --> 00:53:24.150 yeah. 507 00:53:25.980 --> 00:53:27.090 1323****821: i've got people. 508 00:53:27.540 --> 00:53:30.510 Brian U: We used to have a meetings in the West Chester senior. 509 00:53:30.540 --> 00:53:31.320 1323****821: Yes, you did. 510 00:53:31.770 --> 00:53:33.270 1323****821: And you did and and that. 511 00:53:33.330 --> 00:53:41.100 1323****821: that's my wish you'd get it back I wish you'd get it back because, with all due respect what's going on in there now is completely useless. 512 00:53:43.080 --> 00:53:43.680 1323****821: I handle. 513 00:53:43.710 --> 00:53:46.650 1323****821: More problems I handle more problems there, then they do. 514 00:53:48.060 --> 00:53:49.740 Pat Raphael: yeah cuz, you said you said earlier. 515 00:53:52.350 --> 00:53:55.710 Pat Raphael: The building or the ones kind of getting in the way of what you're trying to do. 516 00:53:56.190 --> 00:53:57.180 Can you exactly. 517 00:53:59.850 --> 00:54:11.640 1323****821: What do they do all right, I mean there was a guy that came up to my car and he got really aggressive with me demanding a cigarette because he said he was entitled to one. 518 00:54:12.870 --> 00:54:14.730 1323****821: Right I moved him. 519 00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:18.510 1323****821: And as soon as I moved them right. 520 00:54:19.770 --> 00:54:28.290 1323****821: Some some my friends were Jason Moran I said stop chasing them I said take that 10 from the side of the building tear it up and throw it in the garbage. 521 00:54:29.040 --> 00:54:43.200 1323****821: And then I said then, when I told the guy there was a girl, and again I said he's got nothing to do with you man, I said get whatever you need you need a better Joseph boyfriend's take whatever you need a good time, but this tent is going to go and we got rid of the 10. 522 00:54:44.370 --> 00:54:59.610 1323****821: And then the people from the building the urban alchemy people came out and thanked me because I was gone for a few days, and this guy was a problem beating on the door over there, demanding, you know this, demanding that because he was entitled you've got to take away this entitlement. 523 00:55:02.850 --> 00:55:09.480 1323****821: I mean when before you guys cleaned out the library, I actually saw a pile of bicycles, with a for sale sign on oh. 524 00:55:10.950 --> 00:55:11.190 1323****821: yeah. 525 00:55:13.140 --> 00:55:15.660 1323****821: I mean if that's not gall I don't know what is. 526 00:55:22.110 --> 00:55:31.620 1323****821: I don't want to see anybody go to jail, I want to see everybody get help Okay, because the way I look at it, I got I got help right, you can put. 527 00:55:32.700 --> 00:55:49.320 1323****821: Right, you can you can have a million things right and give up one thing which is drug addiction, or you can keep your drug addiction and lose a million things like your family like your car your House everything you got. 528 00:55:50.490 --> 00:55:59.340 1323****821: Everything fits into a mess pipe a house a car everything, but if you give up that play, you can have the whole world at your feet. 529 00:56:01.770 --> 00:56:02.340 Jody M (He, Him, His): And you can make. 530 00:56:04.110 --> 00:56:17.640 1323****821: yeah I always make my appointments i'm fanatical about it that's why it's the mind psychiatry because I 14 years I call myself an Ai R i'm an addict in retirement, but i'm going to be an addict till the day I die. 531 00:56:22.200 --> 00:56:31.740 1323****821: addiction is a disease you don't yell at somebody when they have cancer right getting help people, but with health comes consequences. 532 00:56:33.930 --> 00:56:45.090 1323****821: And quite frankly folks the city of La has become a joke, and the people that are out here taking everything that is a nail down and running amok they know they can get away with it. 533 00:56:47.970 --> 00:56:54.330 1323****821: Though there's got to be consequences, and we, we can clean this up, we can fix this. 534 00:56:56.970 --> 00:56:57.420 frank murphy: Do you. 535 00:56:57.780 --> 00:56:58.020 See. 536 00:57:00.690 --> 00:57:01.290 1323****821: Excuse me. 537 00:57:01.560 --> 00:57:02.820 vicki halliday: I see a couple of hands oh. 538 00:57:02.820 --> 00:57:04.140 vicki halliday: Yes, questions. 539 00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:11.730 vicki halliday: You want to run the meeting frank. 540 00:57:12.630 --> 00:57:15.840 frank murphy: No i'm just saying I hadn't had a chance to speak. 541 00:57:16.020 --> 00:57:16.470 vicki halliday: I know. 542 00:57:17.100 --> 00:57:22.620 vicki halliday: Okay i'll kind of let go ahead and then we'll get some people from the audience, whose names. 543 00:57:22.770 --> 00:57:23.670 frank murphy: yeah yeah. 544 00:57:32.610 --> 00:57:33.930 vicki halliday: One unmute Colette. 545 00:57:38.730 --> 00:57:39.360 C Bailey: Sorry. 546 00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:41.160 C Bailey: i'm not an algae either. 547 00:57:43.260 --> 00:57:45.480 C Bailey: I just wanted to to. 548 00:57:47.370 --> 00:58:00.690 C Bailey: First of all congratulate see his sobriety and hopefully getting you into housing them, this is, this is one of the reasons why I get very adamant to be pro resident. 549 00:58:01.260 --> 00:58:12.300 C Bailey: When everybody else is talking about what are we going to do, because I don't feel like there's any consequences for the stuff that's going out going on and rewarding people for. 550 00:58:13.980 --> 00:58:21.180 C Bailey: Doing nothing but continuing on lifestyle that's going to kill them and kill our Community. 551 00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:24.900 C Bailey: is making no sense so. 552 00:58:26.670 --> 00:58:31.620 C Bailey: that's why I wind up you know being very adamant about not. 553 00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:43.500 C Bailey: giving more money or prisons or whatever we do you know for for the behavior unless there's a consequence and maybe. 554 00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:57.450 C Bailey: You know, maybe urban out alchemy needs to be in what are they like Steve says, and nobody is is praising them, what do you know I don't understand I guess that's my point. 555 00:58:58.620 --> 00:59:04.200 C Bailey: i'll let some other people speak maybe somebody knows what the point is of these organizations. 556 00:59:04.470 --> 00:59:05.160 frank murphy: You know. 557 00:59:06.510 --> 00:59:07.530 frank murphy: If I can interject. 558 00:59:10.230 --> 00:59:20.640 frank murphy: Steve, what is your experience with these organizations, I mean I know you've spoke to it a little bit here, but what is your experience with. 559 00:59:22.140 --> 00:59:24.450 frank murphy: The you know St Joseph Center. 560 00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:29.040 frank murphy: vc HC etc, etc. 561 00:59:30.300 --> 00:59:32.550 1323****821: As St joseph's came by to do the. 562 00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:41.670 1323****821: Do the paperwork on on my housing right and, basically, I guess, because i've raised such a ruckus. 563 00:59:43.230 --> 00:59:56.250 1323****821: windows windows showers came in that they were going to put in the parking lot, I guess, I got into it with a councilman bindings the guy and I tell them flat out he wasn't open them up. 564 00:59:56.790 --> 01:00:06.180 1323****821: Because the minute they bowled in all it to play started to go to hell in a handbasket and I made a call to some people from the service organization. 565 01:00:06.660 --> 01:00:14.820 1323****821: And some people that I know, and then they get an email blast and then apparently somebody dug up the settlement agreement and six days later. 566 01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:19.140 1323****821: The cease and desist came in and then they were gone. 567 01:00:21.180 --> 01:00:23.040 1323****821: You know the trailers were gone you. 568 01:00:24.720 --> 01:00:26.010 1323****821: You you can. 569 01:00:27.150 --> 01:00:34.410 1323****821: I best the way i'm saying this is, it seems that the city is running a concierge service for bad behavior. 570 01:00:38.490 --> 01:00:39.690 1323****821: If that makes any sense. 571 01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:42.510 vicki halliday: Yes. 572 01:00:42.900 --> 01:00:43.410 Brian U: that's why we got. 573 01:00:44.550 --> 01:00:45.420 Well, I mean. 574 01:00:46.500 --> 01:00:52.740 Jody M (He, Him, His): With the California care courts that's coming online a lot of things may be coming down the pipeline, a little more patient well. 575 01:00:53.580 --> 01:00:56.730 1323****821: I hope so, but you can't use it as an excuse anymore. 576 01:00:57.930 --> 01:01:08.340 1323****821: Because that's been the excuse for two years, and I feel for these people every first of the month, when they write a 30 $500 a month rent check and then they see a bunch of crap outside their house. 577 01:01:09.540 --> 01:01:17.880 1323****821: that's not what they're working for and i'm sure everybody would love to help Okay, but there has to be consequences for this. 578 01:01:20.190 --> 01:01:27.060 1323****821: People need to be made a little bit uncomfortable you get offered help and i'm not trying to be political or anything like that. 579 01:01:27.450 --> 01:01:35.250 1323****821: Right I just happen to know, because i've been through it, I know what works, and I know what worked for me, and I know what's working for these people that i'm trying to help. 580 01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:45.540 1323****821: Right, I talked to a couple of people that are big guy careers going but but they're in recovery from a or whatever, and we just fit we talk. 581 01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:53.550 1323****821: And this kid I thought i'd been straight with this get I said, every time I talk to you and every time I see you i'm going to check yeah. 582 01:01:54.060 --> 01:02:02.310 1323****821: And then, as soon as I get done check in you, having to call your mom to let her know you're right and I just saw him today and he's about to get a five month chip. 583 01:02:04.620 --> 01:02:05.340 vicki halliday: it's great. 584 01:02:06.570 --> 01:02:09.000 frank murphy: All right, we got okay. 585 01:02:09.420 --> 01:02:19.050 vicki halliday: Sorry, I see one hand up in the audience a phone number, beginning with 323 hold on here. 586 01:02:22.050 --> 01:02:23.670 vicki halliday: And you can talk now. 587 01:02:24.810 --> 01:02:25.920 vicki halliday: I think that is that ruthie. 588 01:02:30.330 --> 01:02:33.000 frank murphy: No, I think that's I think that Steve. 589 01:02:34.500 --> 01:02:35.250 I think we're good. 590 01:02:40.050 --> 01:02:42.750 vicki halliday: Okay, let me let Lisa redmond top on. 591 01:02:43.050 --> 01:02:44.580 frank murphy: Lisa Lisa. 592 01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:46.170 vicki halliday: There you go to Lisa. 593 01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:55.350 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And i'm just going to remind everybody that there's several ways and several needs. 594 01:02:55.890 --> 01:03:06.630 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Out of homelessness for people and what is working for Steve and some of his friends, is not the way for everybody, and that is, you know the very dog hearted. 595 01:03:07.260 --> 01:03:18.540 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: 12 step program that works for some people, but not everybody and not everybody is a drug addict or an alcoholic either, and so, if that's working for you Steve great. 596 01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:27.840 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: But it's not for everyone right away, we learned this evening that you can't go into collaborative housing because of your pets there's all kinds of needs for people. 597 01:03:28.140 --> 01:03:33.150 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: But what was really glossed over, and I really want to bring up is the whole voucher Program. 598 01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:47.010 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And that it's like when you get a voucher it's like woohoo i've collected the winning ticket to a lottery, but then, once you get it it's pretty much good luck collecting your winnings. 599 01:03:47.850 --> 01:03:59.550 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I could probably name 20 people on the street right now in Venice that have vouchers that are trying desperately desperately to find housing and they don't care about staying on the West side either. 600 01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:13.470 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: They don't mind going to Lancaster they don't mind going to South la it is just so incredibly difficult to find housing and to find a situation that will accept your section eight voucher. 601 01:04:14.250 --> 01:04:21.630 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And then get in it's even more difficult because it's supposedly comes with a supportive case manager. 602 01:04:22.080 --> 01:04:29.310 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: That is impossible to contact because they probably have 1500 clients and they're very hard to get Ahold of. 603 01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:41.220 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I work desperately to get a married couple on third street and housing finally got him about your finally they got into housing help them move on February 1 you know what. 604 01:04:41.730 --> 01:04:48.240 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: The voucher stop paying we can't get Ahold of their caseworker we don't know what to do and they're being evicted this Thursday. 605 01:04:48.780 --> 01:04:52.410 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: At the end of the month, and now they're going to be back on the street in Venice. 606 01:04:53.250 --> 01:05:10.260 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: it's just the there's so many problems rot with the section eight voucher program that it's just that is a huge issue and I don't think people are aware of how difficult it is to once you even get it, which is difficult enough. 607 01:05:13.620 --> 01:05:15.030 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I just wanted to bring that up. 608 01:05:18.060 --> 01:05:18.420 1323****821: Okay. 609 01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:21.390 frank murphy: So. 610 01:05:22.410 --> 01:05:23.910 vicki halliday: we've got some other hands up. 611 01:05:24.120 --> 01:05:24.540 vicki halliday: A. 612 01:05:24.570 --> 01:05:26.400 Common user one. 613 01:05:27.780 --> 01:05:28.470 That really. 614 01:05:32.340 --> 01:05:33.330 Brian U: Whose dogs barking. 615 01:05:34.590 --> 01:05:36.450 1323****821: that's my dog dog. 616 01:05:37.410 --> 01:05:37.920 Brian U: that's cool. 617 01:05:38.670 --> 01:05:39.930 1323****821: yeah I stepped out of the car. 618 01:05:42.660 --> 01:05:43.800 vicki halliday: We theory there. 619 01:05:46.890 --> 01:05:47.520 vicki halliday: No. 620 01:05:49.290 --> 01:05:53.190 vicki halliday: Okay, a Chi did you have a question. 621 01:05:55.650 --> 01:06:13.680 chielunn: hi I had more than anything, to comment to Steve Steve you are so inspiring the way that you talk about your experience, I thank you so much for your input tonight it's actually just so enlightening i'm a child who grew up in on section eight you know living in section eight housing. 622 01:06:14.700 --> 01:06:23.760 chielunn: And just seeing that you've made it to the other side, we are here to support you, I want to meet you in person I just think that you really inspiring. 623 01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:27.210 chielunn: For so many people who are out there, and thank you for the hard work that you're doing Steve. 624 01:06:28.200 --> 01:06:30.090 1323****821: Well, thank you, I appreciate that very much. 625 01:06:32.310 --> 01:06:35.400 Brian U: How much Steve Steve Steve how much sobriety do you have. 626 01:06:36.510 --> 01:06:37.290 1323****821: 14 years. 627 01:06:37.710 --> 01:06:42.060 Brian U: Congratulations i'm 20 and I just I love, everything is coming out of your. 628 01:06:42.060 --> 01:06:42.390 mouth. 629 01:06:45.690 --> 01:06:48.930 1323****821: I mean it's hard you know between losing my wife and. 630 01:06:49.530 --> 01:06:50.100 Brian U: Just you know. 631 01:06:50.190 --> 01:06:52.950 1323****821: April 15 my niece was murdered, and you know. 632 01:06:54.450 --> 01:07:00.960 Brian U: i'd like to i'd like to encourage you to potentially enroll to work with share get into the peer bridging. 633 01:07:01.080 --> 01:07:02.100 Brian U: Training Program. 634 01:07:04.050 --> 01:07:08.580 Brian U: And, and you can be a big help to people on the street with your head experience. 635 01:07:08.670 --> 01:07:10.590 Jody M (He, Him, His): I agree with that fine very much so. 636 01:07:10.770 --> 01:07:12.270 Brian U: yeah so let me. 637 01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:14.490 Brian U: vicki full. 638 01:07:14.940 --> 01:07:15.930 Brian U: Time to get in touch with him. 639 01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:18.030 vicki halliday: i've connected with a few. 640 01:07:18.030 --> 01:07:18.360 People. 641 01:07:23.490 --> 01:07:24.180 Pat Raphael: Here the. 642 01:07:25.590 --> 01:07:25.800 Pat Raphael: The. 643 01:07:26.910 --> 01:07:33.690 Pat Raphael: outlook doing and I always keep that in mind when I hear over and over again, and I heard that for them as well, what are they doing. 644 01:07:35.670 --> 01:07:39.720 frank murphy: Excellent got a calling user is that was able to. 645 01:07:40.170 --> 01:07:42.690 vicki halliday: I tried um. 646 01:07:43.740 --> 01:07:49.350 vicki halliday: I think it's ruthie and her volume before with some low, we could barely hear her so. 647 01:07:49.620 --> 01:07:53.400 vicki halliday: All right, see if he can crank up the volume try, one more time. 648 01:07:55.980 --> 01:07:56.670 Call-In User_1: Can you hear me. 649 01:07:57.120 --> 01:07:58.590 frank murphy: Barely yeah we can hear better. 650 01:07:59.670 --> 01:08:06.690 Call-In User_1: Okay sorry um yeah, I just wanted to say i'm so sorry that you're wasting so terrible and. 651 01:08:07.080 --> 01:08:16.650 Call-In User_1: And I really want to people in the city like I know that there's landlord in this neighborhood Council, and I am probably here in this meeting right now. 652 01:08:17.040 --> 01:08:30.660 Call-In User_1: And people that november's why can't we get this question a House that will accept the voucher like you do not want this person, leaving the neighborhood you know most homeless people, or at least 43% according to us ICA. 653 01:08:32.610 --> 01:08:43.200 Call-In User_1: Which means moving is hard for them moving out of the neighborhood and also you know these are your neighbors you want to keep them around you and, and you know I know that there's. 654 01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:48.360 Call-In User_1: A fine line that will take this doctor, thank you. 655 01:08:49.410 --> 01:08:49.830 Call-In User_1: Thank you. 656 01:08:53.220 --> 01:08:58.110 vicki halliday: Thank you rosie well Steve I can't Thank you enough for coming tonight, I think. 657 01:08:58.170 --> 01:08:58.920 vicki halliday: you've been. 658 01:08:59.190 --> 01:09:08.910 vicki halliday: informative for everyone, and we really appreciate you sharing and I will connect you with Brian and with Jody. 659 01:09:10.320 --> 01:09:15.120 Brian U: asked one quick question Steve tell me all the people that are on drugs that. 660 01:09:15.180 --> 01:09:16.140 want to get off. 661 01:09:17.280 --> 01:09:18.510 Brian U: What do you do to tell them. 662 01:09:18.570 --> 01:09:19.830 Brian U: About detox. 663 01:09:22.200 --> 01:09:24.510 1323****821: What do I do tell them about detox yeah. 664 01:09:24.540 --> 01:09:29.790 Brian U: Do you have any recommendations for them to go to a certain space or if you. 665 01:09:30.270 --> 01:09:32.220 Brian U: were to send people to get detox. 666 01:09:33.510 --> 01:09:35.730 1323****821: Basically, what I do is. 667 01:09:37.980 --> 01:09:49.230 1323****821: I met the beginning Okay, and I met the beginning, I give them suggestions, but they have to take the first step, but I take this step with them. 668 01:09:50.790 --> 01:10:01.800 1323****821: And then I follow up with them and everybody knows where i'm always at the Westminster dog park and anybody who needs to be right can come there and talk to me at any time. 669 01:10:02.490 --> 01:10:09.780 Jody M (He, Him, His): Maybe we can come up with some flyers or like almost a little bit bigger, better than business cards that have some numbers of some detox places. 670 01:10:10.020 --> 01:10:10.740 Jody M (He, Him, His): Just easily. 671 01:10:11.010 --> 01:10:11.460 get to. 672 01:10:19.230 --> 01:10:23.580 Pat Raphael: so much money in what he's doing is so valuable, but. 673 01:10:30.990 --> 01:10:40.350 frank murphy: I want to thank you to Steve I really appreciate it, and so vicki's going to put you in touch with Brian and Jody and. 674 01:10:41.490 --> 01:10:51.570 frank murphy: And we can also if it's okay with Pat, we can probably put you in touch with that too, because you guys have a mutual friends there okay. 675 01:10:52.980 --> 01:10:53.700 Wait a minute live. 676 01:10:54.870 --> 01:11:04.320 Elizabeth Wright: I would like to congratulate you on on your 14 years that's quite an accomplishment and I wish to give my condolences on your losses. 677 01:11:05.310 --> 01:11:11.490 1323****821: Well, thank you very much, and thank you all for having me and anything I can do to help i'm here. 678 01:11:12.510 --> 01:11:13.380 vicki halliday: Steve Thank you. 679 01:11:13.410 --> 01:11:16.950 1323****821: Steve okay y'all ever pleasant evening. 680 01:11:17.310 --> 01:11:17.700 vicki halliday: You too. 681 01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:19.200 vicki halliday: bye bye bye. 682 01:11:20.910 --> 01:11:25.770 frank murphy: All right, we've got a Community impact statement. 683 01:11:26.310 --> 01:11:28.260 frank murphy: that we need to address. 684 01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:30.510 frank murphy: and 685 01:11:33.810 --> 01:11:42.330 frank murphy: Somehow some way, we need to get this in front of the Board is this a word, did you have a suggestion on that becky. 686 01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:47.580 vicki halliday: Well, I think we go over the the CIS tonight, and we can vote on it. 687 01:11:49.110 --> 01:12:12.840 vicki halliday: and send it onto the board today at City Council the this involves the lease renewal for bridge housing and today that was delayed until August, so it would still be good to get this in front of the dnc board for the July meeting, and then it can be attached to the Council file. 688 01:12:14.190 --> 01:12:17.610 vicki halliday: It will be there in plenty of time, so um. 689 01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:23.190 vicki halliday: it's part of the agenda, everyone can read it it's pretty simple. 690 01:12:24.120 --> 01:12:25.110 frank murphy: I can read it. 691 01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:29.370 vicki halliday: Just is it opposes a renewal of the lease. 692 01:12:30.060 --> 01:12:34.290 frank murphy: So some will handle it in a similar fashion, as we would any motion. 693 01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:46.650 frank murphy: yeah vote on it and just do the same protocol and then and then send it over to them to deal with yep okay so i'll read them text to the motion. 694 01:12:47.910 --> 01:12:49.050 frank murphy: Unless you want to. 695 01:12:50.100 --> 01:12:51.300 vicki halliday: Go ahead, please go ahead. 696 01:12:53.370 --> 01:13:05.130 frank murphy: haha Community impact statement Council file 18 0510 dash s to the Venice neighborhood Council objects to the lease renewal of the bridge home. 697 01:13:06.090 --> 01:13:22.860 frank murphy: located at 100 sunset sunset that is California nine to nine one the Community was told the facility would be temporary and few of the promises made by the city to area residents were fulfilled the city promised it would be designed. 698 01:13:23.910 --> 01:13:41.670 frank murphy: to fit Venice that residents of abh would be good neighbors thereby areas would between nearby areas would be cleaned up and there would be extra lapd protection these premises these promises still appear in the 11th Council districts website. 699 01:13:43.170 --> 01:13:58.290 frank murphy: None of these promises took place area sidewalks still containing campaigns public landscaping ruin sidewalks sanitation often lacking in a special la de de de patrol was defunded. 700 01:14:00.090 --> 01:14:08.820 frank murphy: chain link fencing is not fitting for a neighborhood for a residential neighborhood zero beautification was made zero soundproofing was made. 701 01:14:09.150 --> 01:14:16.830 frank murphy: holes are often cutting the fencing at the southern end of the site for for exit and entry without using the security gate. 702 01:14:17.820 --> 01:14:33.900 frank murphy: There are instances of residents of bridge housing also maintaining tense and encampments on nearby streets and there is no containment of these dual residences comprehensive cleanups have stopped on nearby on Hampton near the facility. 703 01:14:35.460 --> 01:14:41.760 frank murphy: In kampmann still exist in what was designated as the section Z area. 704 01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:52.560 frank murphy: There was no opportunity given for area residents to discuss rules that might be needed for the site beyond the initial meetings held prior to the opening. 705 01:14:53.340 --> 01:15:08.970 frank murphy: We do not believe the facility has met its commitments to protect neighbors from any nuisance, nor have the promise number of housing placements taken place the blame the blame cannot be put on the pandemic. 706 01:15:10.080 --> 01:15:27.060 frank murphy: The facility has not met his goal of integrating into the surrounding community, in fact, the adjacent sidewalks and other areas become magnets for abh residents, recreation, the facility is a disaster. 707 01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:38.970 frank murphy: For the area attracting drug dealers and housed on House who are not in the abh program and friends of the abh residents who hang in the neighborhood. 708 01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:45.900 frank murphy: Does anybody want to make. 709 01:15:48.390 --> 01:15:48.750 frank murphy: i'll make. 710 01:15:49.170 --> 01:15:50.400 vicki halliday: i'll make a motion. 711 01:15:50.880 --> 01:15:51.240 Brian U: i'll say. 712 01:15:51.630 --> 01:15:51.990 vicki halliday: This. 713 01:15:52.710 --> 01:15:53.370 i'll second. 714 01:15:55.440 --> 01:15:56.010 Brian U: Brian. 715 01:15:56.400 --> 01:15:58.230 Elizabeth Wright: Brian Okay, thank you yeah. 716 01:15:59.100 --> 01:16:00.660 frank murphy: So we have public comment. 717 01:16:02.490 --> 01:16:08.700 vicki halliday: um yeah I see one hand up two hands up um. 718 01:16:10.080 --> 01:16:11.520 vicki halliday: ruthie why don't you go ahead. 719 01:16:16.320 --> 01:16:19.740 Call-In User_1: hi okay i'll try to talk loud, I hope you can hear me. 720 01:16:20.940 --> 01:16:29.460 Call-In User_1: I lived in a bridge home and I graduated the program and when I left it I lived under a literal bridge. 721 01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:40.650 Call-In User_1: says it's supposed to be a bridge to a home but, just like we spoke about earlier with the vouchers, and everything there are no homes. 722 01:16:42.030 --> 01:16:51.180 Call-In User_1: So that's why people maintain a tent outside because they don't have security or belief or trust that anything else is going to happen as far as housing. 723 01:16:52.290 --> 01:17:00.990 Call-In User_1: there's 100,000 vacant homes in La and 100,000 they get hotel rooms, which were built with public subsidies. 724 01:17:02.100 --> 01:17:08.430 Call-In User_1: Okay there, there are things we could do if we wanted people to be moving indoors landlords could be taking vouchers. 725 01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:09.870 Call-In User_1: You know. 726 01:17:11.790 --> 01:17:27.000 Call-In User_1: The fridge programs for presented as something that helps homeless people, but really who they help is the lapd and the sanitation department and the nonprofit's that run them for more expensive and it would be to literally just rented apartment. 727 01:17:28.500 --> 01:17:47.700 Call-In User_1: Okay, these fridge one contract state they finally millions of dollars made are meant for homelessness to the police Okay, so if abolishing the bridge home means abolishing the special enforcement cleaning zone as long as no i'm how people get left high and dry i'm totally for that. 728 01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:50.670 Call-In User_1: I got it Thank you. 729 01:17:51.990 --> 01:17:55.410 vicki halliday: Thank you rosie um Lisa you're up next. 730 01:17:59.070 --> 01:18:11.760 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: We certainly are a committee of contradictions um you know, on one hand, yet emotion earlier tonight that is supposed to be supportive of them and house people and yet you postponed it, but the idea let's. 731 01:18:12.330 --> 01:18:18.120 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: rock it out a little bit more, so that we can talk about using the bridge home as a storage locker. 732 01:18:19.110 --> 01:18:27.690 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: But you're now wanting to do a CIS, at the same time that says let's take away that bridge home in February, when the lease is up. 733 01:18:28.350 --> 01:18:43.830 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And we know how many months it takes to get lockers that's not going to happen, and on top of that you're asking for a promise to be broken on a bridge home right there too there's no walk up services allowed at the bridge home the chain link fence was covered. 734 01:18:44.970 --> 01:18:48.150 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: The police stopped the patrols. 735 01:18:49.440 --> 01:19:07.830 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: on their own, because it was over time and they chose that they didn't have the money for overtime, which was smart um there was no promise that every encampment in the SEC, or what the COPs called the sexy, the special enforcement and cleaning zone was going to remove all encampments. 736 01:19:09.810 --> 01:19:17.160 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: it's just ridiculous and yet at the same time we want people to go into shelters, we want people to. 737 01:19:18.180 --> 01:19:24.990 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: be housed and yet you're asking for a place it's already established already running to go away. 738 01:19:26.220 --> 01:19:37.020 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: it's that's ridiculous it's there, we should take advantage of it, we should continue to use it, if we have the opportunity, if metro is it ready to build something and it's just sitting there. 739 01:19:37.380 --> 01:19:47.250 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Then let's take advantage of having people be there and be housed and getting them off the street, so I am totally against the CIS. 740 01:19:48.570 --> 01:19:53.880 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Unless you do okay let's do a CIS, but we propose another bridge home somewhere else in Venice. 741 01:19:55.200 --> 01:20:00.000 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: which I highly doubt you'll do, but so just I both know on this. 742 01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:01.290 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Even though it doesn't. 743 01:20:01.800 --> 01:20:08.670 vicki halliday: Thank you Lisa um any committee members i'd like to say something, but i'll wait until. 744 01:20:12.390 --> 01:20:13.680 Pat Raphael: i'm here on the boardwalk. 745 01:20:15.750 --> 01:20:21.600 Pat Raphael: So I do have some background noise i'm dealing with what I wanted to. 746 01:20:22.710 --> 01:20:39.090 Pat Raphael: Just as a as a point of emphasis remind everybody that this is something that was brought on to be part of the solution in it's not being managed right right so because of the management. 747 01:20:40.590 --> 01:20:49.770 Pat Raphael: To kind of echo what Lisa saying we're saying, let it go away, instead of let's manage it better right so. 748 01:20:51.300 --> 01:20:57.960 Pat Raphael: i'm not saying let's remove the lease and let the people who are managing it continue to manage it, but. 749 01:20:59.670 --> 01:21:00.960 Pat Raphael: If it's an all. 750 01:21:02.130 --> 01:21:11.790 Pat Raphael: In everything approach we shouldn't ignore that this thing was really hard for the guy to be gotten and then to have. 751 01:21:12.600 --> 01:21:13.470 Jody M (He, Him, His): Our input. 752 01:21:13.710 --> 01:21:14.790 Pat Raphael: being said that. 753 01:21:16.230 --> 01:21:28.860 Pat Raphael: We don't want this, it seems like once again we're in the fast lane when it's the takeaway stuff in in the slow lane, what is the health like when we were talking about the bathrooms in the lockers and things like that. 754 01:21:30.900 --> 01:21:31.230 vicki halliday: I. 755 01:21:31.260 --> 01:21:33.150 frank murphy: Can I say something yes. 756 01:21:33.900 --> 01:21:45.570 vicki halliday: As somebody who lives back door that's open next to me is 50 feet from the front gate um what we have gone through since bridge housing open. 757 01:21:46.680 --> 01:22:01.920 vicki halliday: um has not been very pleasant um it has not been managed well you're right pat i'm at the beginning, there was a task force that met with Barnes office every week. 758 01:22:03.030 --> 01:22:14.010 vicki halliday: For about three or four months, and then it fizzled because basically all they said, every week was well there's nothing we can do, and we would bring up issues about. 759 01:22:14.940 --> 01:22:25.800 vicki halliday: um drug deals going down in front of our houses from people who we knew were in bridge housing and recognize them there were a number of issues like that. 760 01:22:26.430 --> 01:22:42.540 vicki halliday: i'm finally about a year and a half into the whole bridge housing thing they got a better security team to work, the front gate which helped a lot um, but we still get a lot at night. 761 01:22:44.040 --> 01:22:58.110 vicki halliday: And a lot of kerfuffle go on right out here that we hear all night long and it is the management, but since the city has acknowledged that this has been a problematic site. 762 01:22:59.490 --> 01:23:05.760 vicki halliday: They haven't done anything about it, so why should we all get behind a big least renewal. 763 01:23:07.170 --> 01:23:07.680 vicki halliday: Now. 764 01:23:07.740 --> 01:23:08.340 vicki halliday: And to the. 765 01:23:08.670 --> 01:23:24.870 vicki halliday: point about the financing the fencing all has fallen down for the most part, especially a mainstream there are holes cut in the fits on Main Street I watch drugs being handed in to somebody in bridge housing Sunday afternoon in broad daylight. 766 01:23:25.980 --> 01:23:28.080 vicki halliday: And the same thing happens in the in. 767 01:23:29.430 --> 01:23:29.850 vicki halliday: The city. 768 01:23:31.620 --> 01:23:34.380 Pat Raphael: originals for drugs in five. 769 01:23:35.610 --> 01:23:35.910 frank murphy: What. 770 01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:43.470 vicki halliday: I have witnessed it, so I can stand here and put my hand on the Bible i've watched. 771 01:23:44.550 --> 01:23:47.940 Pat Raphael: It doesn't happen i'm just saying as as as a. 772 01:23:48.060 --> 01:23:50.250 Pat Raphael: thing that is a symptom in Venice. 773 01:23:50.670 --> 01:23:51.090 frank murphy: It is. 774 01:23:51.870 --> 01:24:06.540 Pat Raphael: Where the bridge else got there, and if, because a lot of these people are coming from the drug world are now resident i'm not surprised that it's happening during the bridge house and if we were to shut the bridge house, it would still continue to happen. 775 01:24:15.420 --> 01:24:15.750 frank murphy: Please. 776 01:24:16.530 --> 01:24:17.700 vicki halliday: I said enough. 777 01:24:20.160 --> 01:24:22.110 frank murphy: Okay i'm. 778 01:24:23.370 --> 01:24:23.970 frank murphy: Elizabeth. 779 01:24:26.910 --> 01:24:27.510 Elizabeth Wright: and 780 01:24:29.520 --> 01:24:40.560 Elizabeth Wright: I apologize, you know i'm a stickler for things and it needs some cosmetic work, so it has it has to be preached in terms of. 781 01:24:42.420 --> 01:24:46.770 Elizabeth Wright: We we move to put this before the board. 782 01:24:48.420 --> 01:24:53.460 Elizabeth Wright: praise to the you already have the phrasing that Dennis neighborhood Council. 783 01:24:56.250 --> 01:24:57.090 Elizabeth Wright: opposes. 784 01:24:58.230 --> 01:25:04.620 Elizabeth Wright: Oh, I I asked i'm in and the word is opposes the lease renewals and that's fine. 785 01:25:05.850 --> 01:25:08.130 Elizabeth Wright: But toward the committee motion. 786 01:25:09.750 --> 01:25:10.560 Elizabeth Wright: It should be. 787 01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:14.490 Elizabeth Wright: put that on the board agenda. 788 01:25:20.160 --> 01:25:21.270 Elizabeth Wright: Is that making sense. 789 01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:24.300 frank murphy: put that on the board agenda. 790 01:25:24.960 --> 01:25:25.410 yeah. 791 01:25:29.220 --> 01:25:37.380 Jody M (He, Him, His): it's kind of like God it's it's it's not our our place or we just just approve it before it can go before the board. 792 01:25:37.710 --> 01:25:38.130 Right. 793 01:25:42.360 --> 01:25:46.440 frank murphy: And then Okay, so in in. 794 01:25:48.900 --> 01:25:50.670 frank murphy: How does that change the nature of it. 795 01:25:51.120 --> 01:25:53.130 Elizabeth Wright: It changes, not one quick. 796 01:26:02.160 --> 01:26:02.910 Jody M (He, Him, His): make a comment. 797 01:26:05.670 --> 01:26:06.120 frank murphy: sure. 798 01:26:07.380 --> 01:26:22.770 Jody M (He, Him, His): My take is that it is a little bit like throwing the baby out with the bathwater, it probably was very, very, very wasn't around in the neighborhood of the time to get this get the bridge housing, but I can just imagine how hard and difficult it was and. 799 01:26:24.570 --> 01:26:35.580 Jody M (He, Him, His): You know, we can't blame everything on a pandemic, but the pandemic did affect the last three years and it's taken a lot, as we can see in our prices and shipping, it still we're still paying for things like that. 800 01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:47.310 Jody M (He, Him, His): So I I just feel that maybe we're you know, maybe a strong letter to the actual management management that they need to actually look at these things before their leases. 801 01:26:48.480 --> 01:26:55.410 Jody M (He, Him, His): reconsidered, but actually just not renewing doing release teams, I can throw the baby out with the bathwater. 802 01:26:58.380 --> 01:26:58.590 Jody M (He, Him, His): Now. 803 01:27:02.250 --> 01:27:02.850 frank murphy: Okay. 804 01:27:04.140 --> 01:27:07.560 Elizabeth Wright: Go ahead, my understanding is there's not that much time. 805 01:27:09.870 --> 01:27:13.710 frank murphy: yeah we're on we're on timeline Colette. 806 01:27:18.300 --> 01:27:19.380 C Bailey: um I. 807 01:27:19.620 --> 01:27:20.220 C Bailey: I just want to. 808 01:27:20.940 --> 01:27:35.250 C Bailey: greet with what vicki was saying, and the residents have been put through an absolute nightmare, the city has taken what a billion, or so dollars from taxpayers and given us outside. 809 01:27:37.410 --> 01:27:38.010 C Bailey: bye by. 810 01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:48.690 C Bailey: But chaos and a lot of it is landed in Venice, and we know why, but I believe that we, we just need to stand our ground and say now. 811 01:27:49.890 --> 01:27:56.700 C Bailey: And when we get some real results, and we see some people actually being held accountable for results. 812 01:27:57.960 --> 01:28:04.560 C Bailey: Then it can be revisited it should also be in a neighborhood that that's suitable it's it's that location is not. 813 01:28:05.640 --> 01:28:10.110 C Bailey: You know we've got residents data for us, we have a lot of different things going on, we kind of. 814 01:28:11.250 --> 01:28:17.610 C Bailey: elementary school very close by, so I think that it's a it's a it's a bad location, to begin with. 815 01:28:20.730 --> 01:28:21.480 frank murphy: Thanks Colin. 816 01:28:23.940 --> 01:28:27.450 frank murphy: Jim had his hand up trying to write back to you, Jim. 817 01:28:28.890 --> 01:28:34.830 jim murez: Thank you um I i've sort of been listening in I agree with a with a lot of the people who are saying. 818 01:28:36.030 --> 01:28:44.370 jim murez: i'm not sure who see Bailey is but I agreed with her and with vicki I think that there's a lot of merit, to the the the the various. 819 01:28:44.940 --> 01:28:54.930 jim murez: elements that have been going on for the last three years that have not been addressed and and the city has turned a blind eye, but I think that there's another. 820 01:28:56.490 --> 01:29:07.200 jim murez: issue also that needs to be considered, and that is is the the greater part of Venice and and i'm reaching out much farther than the hundred and 50 feet, that I live from the site. 821 01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:18.150 jim murez: has a tremendous negative impact by the mta not fulfilling their fiduciary responsibility of developing the site. 822 01:29:18.930 --> 01:29:31.680 jim murez: When it was a bus depot it employs nearly 300 people which we're providing work to our Community and and those those people that were working at the time. 823 01:29:32.190 --> 01:29:48.090 jim murez: Were utilizing a lot of the local resources, restaurants and and and other shops and things that were going on the mta has proposed, and the reason that they move their bus depot away was because they wanted to do. 824 01:29:49.230 --> 01:29:52.290 jim murez: A development there that was going to include. 825 01:29:53.430 --> 01:30:03.450 jim murez: several different uses the uses we're going to include affordable housing, they were going to include artists laughs is going to include commercial. 826 01:30:03.810 --> 01:30:13.950 jim murez: Development on the main street side, it was going to have large open spaces and it was going to include somewhere in the neighborhood of 1000 parking spaces underground. 827 01:30:14.460 --> 01:30:28.080 jim murez: Now the impact and it was also going to include something to relate to transportation uses, meaning that was going to become some sort of a of a bus hub, which would connect up to the rest of the city. 828 01:30:28.470 --> 01:30:30.690 Brian U: Jim was what's this have to do with the impact statement. 829 01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:35.970 jim murez: And he the yeah Brian I didn't interrupt you, let me speak we meet. 830 01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:37.080 Brian U: Some of our meeting. 831 01:30:37.380 --> 01:30:41.070 jim murez: yeah the well i'm i'm speaking as a public Member i'm allowed to. 832 01:30:41.580 --> 01:30:42.030 Okay. 833 01:30:44.340 --> 01:30:45.150 frank murphy: Right now to. 834 01:30:46.950 --> 01:30:49.080 jim murez: me right o'clock running. 835 01:30:50.010 --> 01:30:50.430 jim murez: Thank you. 836 01:30:50.580 --> 01:30:51.420 frank murphy: Jim to. 837 01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:53.220 jim murez: give you i'll give you the same respect. 838 01:30:54.270 --> 01:31:01.680 jim murez: So point, the point is that the joint development has a tremendous financial impact. 839 01:31:02.190 --> 01:31:17.970 jim murez: To the entire community would provide preferential parking it would remove the commercial parking requirement from all of North bennis businesses which would allow them to employ more people and do more development to create a tremendous amount of tax revenue for this. 840 01:31:18.450 --> 01:31:18.810 For this. 841 01:31:19.890 --> 01:31:21.570 frank murphy: we're dealing with a. 842 01:31:21.990 --> 01:31:22.830 curiosity. 843 01:31:23.850 --> 01:31:26.400 frank murphy: about something extremely specific. 844 01:31:26.970 --> 01:31:27.360 frank. 845 01:31:28.380 --> 01:31:30.330 frank murphy: Longer broader issues. 846 01:31:31.350 --> 01:31:35.880 jim murez: We are we are prank understand something that if the leases. 847 01:31:38.460 --> 01:31:38.820 Brian U: Okay. 848 01:31:41.850 --> 01:31:42.090 Can we. 849 01:31:43.320 --> 01:31:44.250 Pat Raphael: muted is. 850 01:31:44.430 --> 01:31:47.670 jim murez: what's going on Oh, I can unmute myself frank, I can also. 851 01:31:47.700 --> 01:31:48.750 jim murez: turn it up meeting. 852 01:31:49.380 --> 01:31:50.490 frank murphy: Well then, go ahead and. 853 01:31:51.450 --> 01:31:52.560 jim murez: I want to make my. 854 01:31:53.790 --> 01:31:57.570 jim murez: job, this is not their funding me like every line. 855 01:31:57.870 --> 01:32:00.330 jim murez: frank why don't I get the opportunity to speak. 856 01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:04.590 frank murphy: to him you've had it you're off topic by 100 miles. 857 01:32:04.590 --> 01:32:05.520 jim murez: No i'm not. 858 01:32:05.580 --> 01:32:06.750 frank murphy: Yes, you are. 859 01:32:06.810 --> 01:32:19.170 jim murez: If the joint development is postponed, we all lose and by renewing the lease the joint development gets postponed that's not off topic frank Jim. 860 01:32:19.230 --> 01:32:21.780 jim murez: open your ears and shut your mouth. 861 01:32:22.110 --> 01:32:24.030 Thank you, Jim. 862 01:32:25.500 --> 01:32:31.110 frank murphy: This is a very specific impact statement you can bring it up at your meeting. 863 01:32:32.130 --> 01:32:32.850 frank murphy: Which is where. 864 01:32:33.090 --> 01:32:33.390 frank murphy: I was. 865 01:32:33.540 --> 01:32:37.770 jim murez: 10 years ago this meeting is talking about renewing the lease, is it not. 866 01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:41.760 frank murphy: This meeting is talking about renewing the lease yeah. 867 01:32:41.790 --> 01:32:42.750 jim murez: that's correct. 868 01:32:42.930 --> 01:32:44.340 jim murez: And so there's benefits to. 869 01:32:44.340 --> 01:32:46.260 frank murphy: or they each houses. 870 01:32:46.320 --> 01:32:49.830 jim murez: there's benefits to renewing the lease and there's negatives. 871 01:32:50.160 --> 01:32:53.070 jim murez: And i'm bringing up a point that you haven't brought up. 872 01:32:53.430 --> 01:32:54.570 Brian U: Okay, so you brought it up. 873 01:32:54.750 --> 01:32:55.350 jim murez: that's right. 874 01:32:55.770 --> 01:32:56.370 frank murphy: Thank you. 875 01:32:56.940 --> 01:32:57.960 jim murez: that's right Thank you. 876 01:32:58.500 --> 01:33:00.900 Brian U: Thanks, is a good point. 877 01:33:04.380 --> 01:33:04.890 frank murphy: Brian. 878 01:33:04.980 --> 01:33:07.620 Pat Raphael: I guess that is something to consider but. 879 01:33:07.650 --> 01:33:08.250 frank murphy: Wait a minute. 880 01:33:10.320 --> 01:33:10.770 frank murphy: Next. 881 01:33:11.970 --> 01:33:12.720 Brian U: couple things. 882 01:33:15.060 --> 01:33:30.540 Brian U: We, we have to protect the our constituents on both sides that house in the House Okay, I just want to say vicki put a lot into this and could have made it a lot tougher. 883 01:33:32.100 --> 01:33:47.370 Brian U: But she's not that person, but she has lived through this as have other neighbors and the reality of the history of what's happened here is back when this brainchild came up, it was strictly a location that was picked in order to. 884 01:33:49.260 --> 01:33:49.890 Brian U: tell people. 885 01:33:50.910 --> 01:33:51.750 Brian U: If we're going to enforce. 886 01:33:53.190 --> 01:34:06.360 Brian U: Take that person off from a location close by alright if we didn't offer a location close by all the activists said that's not close enough, so the mayor decided to do the breach housing program because they wouldn't get sued by offering housing there. 887 01:34:07.590 --> 01:34:10.050 Brian U: Whatever that here's the point. 888 01:34:11.190 --> 01:34:22.560 Brian U: Before this was built a lot of people were together saying how do we regulate what's happening, and the idea on everybody's mind at the time was to get a Community benefit agreement. 889 01:34:23.220 --> 01:34:34.440 Brian U: And in the event that this least gets renewed I would encourage the Venice neighborhood Council to say we will not approve this extension of the lease. 890 01:34:34.980 --> 01:34:47.850 Brian U: Without a Community benefit of grammar that's a reasonable agreement it's the same thing that happened with the Catholic Church and St mark school they complained spy was not going to get built unless the city did in. 891 01:34:48.870 --> 01:35:00.000 Brian U: A Community benefit agreement that has cloud and enforceability where if they violate those those those things, then the Catholic Church can step in. 892 01:35:00.360 --> 01:35:08.220 Brian U: and enforce it, and they could probably shut down that build that's the same thing that we have to do with the bridge housing assuming it's going to get going. 893 01:35:08.700 --> 01:35:19.500 Brian U: We can, based on the track record of what's happened over the last three years there's nobody that would complain, saying they deserve to have a Community benefits agreement. 894 01:35:19.980 --> 01:35:24.390 Brian U: All right, we also need to understand before they renew the path contract. 895 01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:37.890 Brian U: Is, we need a full transparency as to what they've done what happened what's the code for the for them to do in an open forum that that becomes a public contract, so that becomes part of the Community benefit agreement. 896 01:35:38.790 --> 01:35:56.850 Brian U: And I think they need to go to bed based on performance that you know if you didn't hit your milestones, then you know you've got to do it so two things Community benefit agreement frank has got to be done for anybody in this Community, to agree, for an extension. 897 01:35:57.840 --> 01:35:58.440 Brian U: That would be. 898 01:35:59.310 --> 01:36:05.580 frank murphy: What you're suggesting is that we add into this a sentence that. 899 01:36:07.140 --> 01:36:10.080 frank murphy: That requests of Community benefit agreement. 900 01:36:10.500 --> 01:36:23.670 Brian U: Well, I mean vicki vicki kind of says in in about three paragraphs up from the bottom, there was no opportunity given for area residents to discuss rules that might be needed for the site beyond the initial meetings help. 901 01:36:24.030 --> 01:36:39.450 Brian U: and basically those meetings work to sit down and pick and 12 or 14 people from the Community to sit down and negotiate a Community benefits agreement that happens all over the country anytime a developer has to sit with the Community to do that. 902 01:36:40.470 --> 01:36:43.440 Brian U: I think vicki didn't want to put that in because. 903 01:36:44.490 --> 01:36:49.110 Brian U: Right now, the mood there is let's get rid of it, but in the event that it has to stay. 904 01:36:50.670 --> 01:37:05.340 Brian U: there's no way that our community should endorse it without rules surrounding it, that are beneficial to both people all right, and the same thing with the contract if the services aren't being provided that are in some contract that we don't get to see. 905 01:37:06.660 --> 01:37:13.200 Brian U: Then, that should be rebid or recalculated and it should be done in a public forum where people know what the requirements are. 906 01:37:14.070 --> 01:37:21.810 Brian U: That the nonprofits that are servicing that that site what it is that they do every day what their outcomes are, how many people are going through. 907 01:37:22.320 --> 01:37:28.350 Brian U: I do recall that there was a proposal that would say every six months 154 people would be moved out. 908 01:37:28.620 --> 01:37:40.260 Brian U: That that was just stroke to supposed to be a tree is a place where they could get detox where they could get self help support where they get three meals, a day they get showers in order to triage their lives in order to be ready to move on. 909 01:37:40.920 --> 01:37:49.200 Brian U: Lisa rather than might be right there aren't enough beds for them, we made a proposal to to house hundred and 54 people every six months. 910 01:37:50.400 --> 01:38:02.940 Brian U: If we're lucky and we if we got less than that take the 90 with them and 50 from me or 40 from whatever collaborative housing that's 130 people every six months that can be there. 911 01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:04.110 well. 912 01:38:07.290 --> 01:38:07.590 frank murphy: yeah. 913 01:38:08.550 --> 01:38:15.240 Pat Raphael: I do have surprisingly, and I didn't realize that I would have to enter this into the record. 914 01:38:15.780 --> 01:38:23.790 Pat Raphael: I have benefit statements that I was talking to frank about on the boardwalk there's people that I know in the bridge house that are. 915 01:38:24.330 --> 01:38:37.320 Pat Raphael: very thankful and grateful that they have that place rather than a sidewalk so it's not for everybody, those not meeting its marks, but just save not renew it throw it away because it's. 916 01:38:39.060 --> 01:38:40.470 Brian U: Steve Steve use the word. 917 01:38:40.470 --> 01:38:41.280 Pat Raphael: For that as well. 918 01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:44.520 Brian U: Steve use the word consequences all right. 919 01:38:45.030 --> 01:38:51.120 Brian U: We have to pay for one second the city has to pay for the consequences of the past three year performance. 920 01:38:51.330 --> 01:39:00.600 Brian U: And the consequences for their bad behavior says number one you got to do a Community benefits agreement and number two, we have to have an open look at what's going on from programs. 921 01:39:00.810 --> 01:39:12.480 Brian U: that's the consequences for the last three years, if you want our Venice community to agree to do this in that neighborhood with those neighbors best the consequences for screwing up so badly. 922 01:39:12.960 --> 01:39:15.270 Jody M (He, Him, His): That seems to be the bare minimum, that seems fair. 923 01:39:16.440 --> 01:39:17.040 frank murphy: I think. 924 01:39:18.360 --> 01:39:19.020 frank murphy: That would. 925 01:39:20.340 --> 01:39:23.580 frank murphy: require rewarding to some degree here. 926 01:39:25.620 --> 01:39:29.550 frank murphy: And I don't know if you were picking up on any is. 927 01:39:32.250 --> 01:39:32.460 Elizabeth Wright: What. 928 01:39:33.450 --> 01:39:36.450 Brian U: You can do it, the way it is and let them tear it apart at the. 929 01:39:36.450 --> 01:39:37.440 Brian U: neighborhood Council. 930 01:39:40.440 --> 01:39:45.510 Brian U: Because we could put in a 20 page Community benefits agreement to frank. 931 01:39:45.540 --> 01:39:47.340 Brian U: I spoke to you all that before. 932 01:39:47.430 --> 01:39:48.900 Brian U: Okay yeah. 933 01:39:49.320 --> 01:39:52.920 frank murphy: Well, that would that would leave it open to. 934 01:39:54.570 --> 01:39:56.430 frank murphy: When we need to, we need to. 935 01:39:58.440 --> 01:40:02.250 frank murphy: vote on whether to place this on the board agenda agenda. 936 01:40:02.400 --> 01:40:04.410 Brian U: to play, I think you have to. 937 01:40:04.440 --> 01:40:12.630 Brian U: Because of the time frame that's what the city, right now, this has to get in some form, and I believe the statement that's here right now frank. 938 01:40:13.020 --> 01:40:23.220 Brian U: doesn't take a compromised position, this is just no we don't want it right, and so the person that wrote this deserves this to come through as is. 939 01:40:23.730 --> 01:40:35.100 Brian U: And if they want to change it to a compromise at the at the neighborhood Council level, at least that's where it's got to go tonight, so we can get this done by the August 2 hearing with the city. 940 01:40:35.970 --> 01:40:36.630 Brian U: The other record. 941 01:40:38.430 --> 01:40:38.850 frank murphy: So. 942 01:40:39.420 --> 01:40:40.920 frank murphy: i'm on i'm on. 943 01:40:44.670 --> 01:40:46.320 Brian U: moved to vote for it, as it is. 944 01:40:46.740 --> 01:40:49.350 frank murphy: So okay i'm hearing you i'm. 945 01:40:53.220 --> 01:40:54.810 frank murphy: Fine let's go ahead and. 946 01:40:54.840 --> 01:41:04.020 Elizabeth Wright: beat me for voting to the change, I would make would be right under Council file motion. 947 01:41:05.670 --> 01:41:13.260 Elizabeth Wright: Diverse neighborhood killed sold okay next paragraph, whereas and then put the motion at the end. 948 01:41:16.680 --> 01:41:17.130 Brian U: All right. 949 01:41:18.300 --> 01:41:23.070 Brian U: I would add, Venice Council objects to the least renewal and contract renewal. 950 01:41:23.190 --> 01:41:25.800 frank murphy: Well that's that's rewarding and what um. 951 01:41:25.830 --> 01:41:26.220 Brian U: Well, no. 952 01:41:26.490 --> 01:41:29.490 frank murphy: It was already you said it already encompass that. 953 01:41:30.120 --> 01:41:30.750 So. 954 01:41:32.160 --> 01:41:35.460 frank murphy: you're saying after the Council file, you would put in. 955 01:41:36.480 --> 01:41:37.860 frank murphy: What were you saying Liz. 956 01:41:38.910 --> 01:41:43.260 Elizabeth Wright: Oh just label the first paragraph motion because that is the motion. 957 01:41:45.120 --> 01:41:46.710 frank murphy: Oh, I see so just. 958 01:41:46.740 --> 01:41:47.220 motion. 959 01:41:48.810 --> 01:41:49.890 frank murphy: motion in the mind. 960 01:41:50.730 --> 01:41:52.020 frank murphy: there's nowhere SS. 961 01:41:53.760 --> 01:41:54.930 Elizabeth Wright: Just one, whereas. 962 01:41:56.850 --> 01:41:57.150 Elizabeth Wright: For them. 963 01:41:59.760 --> 01:42:01.380 frank murphy: Okay, you got that. 964 01:42:02.340 --> 01:42:04.620 Brian U: But can we add an contract renewal. 965 01:42:06.450 --> 01:42:08.730 Brian U: Because that's the way it's written in the city document. 966 01:42:09.930 --> 01:42:14.070 Brian U: The motion from bond and ask for lease renewal and contract extension. 967 01:42:16.200 --> 01:42:16.650 Elizabeth Wright: Oh. 968 01:42:21.540 --> 01:42:24.840 Brian U: And I think we need to say no to both without clarity. 969 01:42:26.160 --> 01:42:27.480 Brian U: or consequences. 970 01:42:30.690 --> 01:42:32.640 Brian U: What everybody agree with that. 971 01:42:34.290 --> 01:42:35.460 Jody M (He, Him, His): I would, I would agree with. 972 01:42:35.460 --> 01:42:38.490 Jody M (He, Him, His): The without consequences or without the Community impact statement. 973 01:42:39.210 --> 01:42:41.220 Jody M (He, Him, His): yeah I don't great that grid know. 974 01:42:41.760 --> 01:42:46.800 Brian U: We can't put in those words were just saying this motion is regards to both. 975 01:42:47.520 --> 01:42:48.300 C Bailey: Yes, I agree. 976 01:42:49.380 --> 01:42:49.620 Jody M (He, Him, His): yeah. 977 01:42:49.680 --> 01:42:53.730 frank murphy: So this this motion did you get a wording on that. 978 01:42:53.730 --> 01:42:59.580 Brian U: Elizabeth Venice Labor Council objects to lease renewal and contract extension. 979 01:43:02.010 --> 01:43:03.990 Brian U: or to the services contract extension. 980 01:43:07.110 --> 01:43:08.250 Brian U: Or you can trade Pack. 981 01:43:08.370 --> 01:43:09.450 Brian U: Or you can say path. 982 01:43:14.310 --> 01:43:19.710 Brian U: To read the lease renewal and a extension of the path contract. 983 01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:23.040 Elizabeth Wright: You changed it too many times. 984 01:43:23.400 --> 01:43:23.640 In. 985 01:43:24.660 --> 01:43:30.990 Elizabeth Wright: The lease renewal and services contract extension for a breach home located okay. 986 01:43:37.560 --> 01:43:39.780 Elizabeth Wright: All right, very limited English to negotiate. 987 01:43:44.070 --> 01:43:44.760 frank murphy: um. 988 01:43:46.770 --> 01:43:50.190 frank murphy: Okay um let's go to vote on. 989 01:43:56.250 --> 01:43:56.850 frank murphy: So. 990 01:43:57.510 --> 01:43:59.220 Elizabeth Wright: Brian we need election. 991 01:44:02.460 --> 01:44:03.660 frank murphy: I thought that's what we just did. 992 01:44:04.560 --> 01:44:11.640 Brian U: All right, if this is emotion, do we have to ask for public comment after week now changed putting wording, I believe we do. 993 01:44:13.350 --> 01:44:13.770 Elizabeth Wright: i'm sorry. 994 01:44:14.550 --> 01:44:20.640 Brian U: i've got the motion, so the only change that we've made is that first sentence, but I believe we have to have a comment because of that. 995 01:44:21.900 --> 01:44:26.490 frank murphy: All right, let's go to public comment looks like nick's got his hand up. 996 01:44:28.350 --> 01:44:28.920 frank murphy: hang on. 997 01:44:31.350 --> 01:44:32.010 frank murphy: Okay, Nick. 998 01:44:32.820 --> 01:44:36.180 Nick Antonicello: yeah Thank you Brian for adhering to the rules. 999 01:44:37.800 --> 01:44:44.040 Nick Antonicello: You gotta first of all I don't vote nine should restate the motion and its entirety, under the revision. 1000 01:44:45.090 --> 01:44:48.450 Nick Antonicello: And then, and then call for public comment if. 1001 01:44:49.530 --> 01:44:59.010 Nick Antonicello: You guys if you're leaving yourself wide open for all these parliamentary procedure mistake, so what I would suggest that you do, whoever is. 1002 01:44:59.490 --> 01:45:11.220 Nick Antonicello: Making a motion to revise the original motion state the revision habit seconded then have public comment and then vote on the new motion that's how it can be done, thank you. 1003 01:45:12.270 --> 01:45:13.170 frank murphy: Thanks Nick. 1004 01:45:13.590 --> 01:45:14.520 Brian U: All right, let's do that. 1005 01:45:17.070 --> 01:45:17.580 frank murphy: All right. 1006 01:45:18.600 --> 01:45:19.740 Brian U: i'm making a motion. 1007 01:45:21.390 --> 01:45:30.180 Brian U: For us to make the modified changes, pursuant to the way Elizabeth wrote it, which says. 1008 01:45:32.220 --> 01:45:34.710 Brian U: The following Liz can you read that sentence. 1009 01:45:35.670 --> 01:45:49.230 Elizabeth Wright: The dentist neighborhood Council objects to the lease renewal and services contract extension for a bridge home located at 100 sunset Venice California 90292. 1010 01:45:50.070 --> 01:45:57.390 Brian U: So I make an emotion that we accept that, and then there are no further changes to the impact statement as written. 1011 01:45:59.040 --> 01:45:59.790 Brian U: dive a second. 1012 01:46:00.210 --> 01:46:00.780 Second. 1013 01:46:01.800 --> 01:46:03.930 frank murphy: Okay that's the second to let. 1014 01:46:06.570 --> 01:46:07.260 Pat Raphael: The motion. 1015 01:46:11.550 --> 01:46:11.970 Brian U: collapse. 1016 01:46:12.030 --> 01:46:12.810 frank murphy: yeah you can. 1017 01:46:13.260 --> 01:46:14.850 frank murphy: But we need to get public. 1018 01:46:14.940 --> 01:46:16.140 Brian U: We need to get comment. 1019 01:46:16.560 --> 01:46:17.550 frank murphy: comment first. 1020 01:46:20.550 --> 01:46:23.370 frank murphy: So Nick already spoke so Lisa. 1021 01:46:27.420 --> 01:46:28.200 frank murphy: Okay Lisa. 1022 01:46:29.160 --> 01:46:31.020 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: um yeah I would tend to agree. 1023 01:46:32.940 --> 01:46:40.110 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: My biggest problem with the bridge home is the service provider, I think that would take care of a lot of problems. 1024 01:46:41.130 --> 01:46:58.800 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: But I also want to point out something and really emphasize something God had said earlier about it being coven you know we went into a coven lockdown three weeks after the bridge home opened, and so the SEC Z was only an effect really for one week. 1025 01:47:00.540 --> 01:47:02.490 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Before everything really changed. 1026 01:47:03.840 --> 01:47:17.970 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And because of code restrictions that housing facility that was set up for 154 people 100 adults and 54 tay transitional age Youth on the spy side hasn't been. 1027 01:47:19.200 --> 01:47:32.250 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: able to really be at full capacity, because housing department of housing has diminished their ability to keep it full because of coven restrictions in being a. 1028 01:47:35.400 --> 01:47:47.040 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: A shelter a congregate shelter, but I do believe that a large part of the issues are the service provider I think if there was a more dedicated service provider. 1029 01:47:48.240 --> 01:47:51.570 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: It would be better, I have issues that there's no. 1030 01:47:54.780 --> 01:48:09.480 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I don't know I can't think of the right word, but nothing that reviews the service providers in these places in the bridge home in the ramada whereas restaurants, they have health inspections, but the WHO who inspects the service providers. 1031 01:48:10.080 --> 01:48:15.720 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: yeah that's well last is not doing a good job because, obviously, these problems are continuing to happen. 1032 01:48:16.260 --> 01:48:21.660 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: So there's some issues, but also with pat there's a lot of people that are happy. 1033 01:48:22.020 --> 01:48:29.940 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: That they are there, instead of on the sidewalk there are a lot of people, I know that because and using that housing first situation. 1034 01:48:30.270 --> 01:48:40.080 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Even though it's not a true home it's transitional took advantage of going inside and got themselves clean and look entirely different than they were on the street. 1035 01:48:40.350 --> 01:48:49.590 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: and have been able to move on into permanent housing in are much happier, so it does work, but I do believe a service provider, with better. 1036 01:48:52.080 --> 01:48:56.610 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Management okay take care of a lot of the problems that biggie and her neighbors have. 1037 01:48:59.250 --> 01:48:59.640 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: But is. 1038 01:49:01.770 --> 01:49:03.450 Brian U: frank a retirement public comment. 1039 01:49:04.230 --> 01:49:04.770 Sean. 1040 01:49:10.020 --> 01:49:23.700 Sean obrien: Oh yeah late to the party I didn't get my popcorn so I want to thank you guys you and Jim ah, that was quite entertaining Jim did have some great things to say, I really appreciate it Brian Brian with his. 1041 01:49:26.970 --> 01:49:36.690 Sean obrien: Things that he said about putting in on the amendment I was kind of hoping that that I was kind of hoping that that would have gotten put in, I thought, those were very great. 1042 01:49:37.740 --> 01:49:39.630 Sean obrien: I understand what Lisa saying. 1043 01:49:41.010 --> 01:49:57.840 Sean obrien: about how it does help people but at what cost, I mean we've spent millions of dollars to how to help a couple hundred it's been ridiculous it's been a failure, I support the motion and I don't want to keep going on, because I was late, but thanks for your help, thank you guys. 1044 01:49:58.410 --> 01:49:59.070 frank murphy: Thanks Sean. 1045 01:50:01.740 --> 01:50:02.940 frank murphy: Okay caller. 1046 01:50:07.680 --> 01:50:12.000 frank murphy: Calling color in in user I don't see your number on there, but. 1047 01:50:13.740 --> 01:50:14.160 Call-In User_1: hi. 1048 01:50:14.820 --> 01:50:15.360 frank murphy: There we go. 1049 01:50:15.540 --> 01:50:15.900 Okay. 1050 01:50:17.040 --> 01:50:18.660 Pat Raphael: don't forget to speak up, it was good. 1051 01:50:23.040 --> 01:50:23.520 Call-In User_1: So yeah. 1052 01:50:25.980 --> 01:50:29.370 Call-In User_1: Actually, support this, but for completely different reasons, when you feel. 1053 01:50:30.810 --> 01:50:43.890 Call-In User_1: Like I said, the police and the sanitation department and the service providers takes so much money out of this contract and when you just convert that money into vouchers rent. 1054 01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:46.350 Call-In User_1: A hotel conversion. 1055 01:50:47.610 --> 01:50:56.340 Call-In User_1: You know anything like that which is literally just housing itself the problem and make the problem go away permanently it's so much more. 1056 01:50:57.330 --> 01:51:05.970 Call-In User_1: cost effective and it's worth it was so much better there's like somebody said something about a billion dollars in taxpayer money or something. 1057 01:51:06.450 --> 01:51:20.490 Call-In User_1: We send a billion dollars of taxpayer money to build hotel room in La and we have 100,000 of them sitting vacant not 98% of the time, I mean you know we have 100,000 homes. 1058 01:51:21.840 --> 01:51:30.300 Call-In User_1: That we could help people with this money, instead of cycling them through something that doesn't solve the problem for anyone, it does provide us with. 1059 01:51:31.680 --> 01:51:35.190 frank murphy: him, thank you very much Okay, thank you. 1060 01:51:38.280 --> 01:51:44.070 frank murphy: Alright that's that's it next got his hand up he already spoke, I don't know. 1061 01:51:44.790 --> 01:51:46.080 Brian U: Committee committee card. 1062 01:51:46.950 --> 01:51:48.210 frank murphy: Is committee time. 1063 01:51:48.300 --> 01:51:49.800 frank murphy: hang on, let me okay. 1064 01:51:50.310 --> 01:51:50.730 frank murphy: All right. 1065 01:51:51.480 --> 01:51:52.980 frank murphy: pass to the committee that. 1066 01:51:58.950 --> 01:52:00.630 Pat Raphael: So basically. 1067 01:52:02.190 --> 01:52:14.970 Pat Raphael: The premise of the whole thing insane This is how the neighborhood Council already here, so our region's endorsing a conclusion that we're not done. 1068 01:52:17.640 --> 01:52:18.750 Pat Raphael: Because it seems like. 1069 01:52:20.430 --> 01:52:40.770 Pat Raphael: that's just another way to get cover for what was already decided right we're being given something that's already concluded and then it says, this is what we all believe and i'm trying to figure out how did we even arrive at the fact that we believe that this should not be removed. 1070 01:52:42.810 --> 01:52:44.220 Brian U: that's why you can vote no. 1071 01:52:45.990 --> 01:52:58.290 frank murphy: Well, no, this is this is telling telling them look you can't renew this under the present situation you got to rectify the situation or. 1072 01:52:59.340 --> 01:53:02.580 frank murphy: You know that's it we're not we've had it with that. 1073 01:53:03.570 --> 01:53:15.360 Pat Raphael: So Austin isn't asking them to rectify the situation it's asking for the spot, to cease to exist pretty much by saying we tried it and it didn't work. 1074 01:53:15.810 --> 01:53:15.990 and 1075 01:53:19.260 --> 01:53:23.820 frank murphy: I agree with you, under the present situation, we tried it didn't work let's. 1076 01:53:24.810 --> 01:53:29.880 frank murphy: let's get abandon it and come back to us with a better plan. 1077 01:53:35.730 --> 01:53:44.010 frank murphy: You know they don't need you anyhow at least that's the way that i'm looking at it is yes, this is, this is a consequence of the way you've run things. 1078 01:53:45.540 --> 01:53:49.830 Brian U: Well, when it when it gets to the viewed see they're going to have comments about it. 1079 01:53:50.190 --> 01:53:51.150 Brian U: And then okay. 1080 01:53:51.180 --> 01:53:51.510 Jody M (He, Him, His): well. 1081 01:53:51.600 --> 01:53:52.050 Brian U: that's all. 1082 01:53:52.380 --> 01:53:53.550 Brian U: So, at that point. 1083 01:53:53.580 --> 01:54:01.380 Brian U: they're either going to make a motion to to engage into immediate negotiations to do a Community benefits agreement or they won't. 1084 01:54:03.750 --> 01:54:04.290 frank murphy: Okay. 1085 01:54:04.650 --> 01:54:21.960 Brian U: And the same thing that they're gonna agree that they should you know, have a reconciliation with past the provider or they want that's what that's what it's going to get massage pad if we do it tonight, then I can't stop without giving you 20 or 30 Community benefits agreements. 1086 01:54:23.100 --> 01:54:26.760 Brian U: To to attach to this and that's not what we're gonna do with this meeting. 1087 01:54:27.390 --> 01:54:28.860 frank murphy: know where this is. 1088 01:54:30.420 --> 01:54:31.950 frank murphy: anybody else with comments. 1089 01:54:35.580 --> 01:54:35.880 frank murphy: Because. 1090 01:54:36.780 --> 01:54:37.290 C Bailey: I think we should. 1091 01:54:38.430 --> 01:54:38.940 Brian U: agree. 1092 01:54:39.300 --> 01:54:41.010 C Bailey: Either we agree with. 1093 01:54:42.330 --> 01:54:43.140 C Bailey: That we can better. 1094 01:54:43.920 --> 01:54:46.710 Pat Raphael: At this morning on the voting on the motion we just talked about. 1095 01:54:47.760 --> 01:54:51.300 frank murphy: Loading on the motion that we talked about amended the way that. 1096 01:54:51.840 --> 01:54:56.280 frank murphy: It was presented with that one sentence change correct. 1097 01:54:58.470 --> 01:54:59.070 frank murphy: Okay. 1098 01:55:02.100 --> 01:55:02.970 frank murphy: So, Brian. 1099 01:55:03.780 --> 01:55:07.530 Brian U: yeah on behalf of the spirit of vicki i'm saying yes. 1100 01:55:09.120 --> 01:55:09.720 frank murphy: Colette. 1101 01:55:10.500 --> 01:55:10.980 Yes. 1102 01:55:13.980 --> 01:55:14.310 frank murphy: pat. 1103 01:55:19.080 --> 01:55:20.610 frank murphy: Live yes. 1104 01:55:24.390 --> 01:55:27.390 frank murphy: vicki is no longer with us God. 1105 01:55:28.500 --> 01:55:29.340 Jody M (He, Him, His): About no. 1106 01:55:32.100 --> 01:55:33.420 frank murphy: frank, I bowed yes. 1107 01:55:36.780 --> 01:55:42.690 frank murphy: Okay, that is, that is 123 or. 1108 01:55:44.490 --> 01:55:46.080 frank murphy: Four yes to know. 1109 01:55:57.330 --> 01:55:57.870 frank murphy: alright. 1110 01:55:59.550 --> 01:56:00.780 Elizabeth Wright: I have a comment on this. 1111 01:56:01.980 --> 01:56:11.010 Elizabeth Wright: There was a hope for considerations, there is nothing preventing anyone from drawing up a bunch of considerations and proposing them at the board meeting. 1112 01:56:14.130 --> 01:56:17.250 frank murphy: Wait a minute again listen upon. 1113 01:56:17.280 --> 01:56:21.990 Elizabeth Wright: We could we could not consideration could consider considerations here. 1114 01:56:23.280 --> 01:56:26.640 Elizabeth Wright: But there is no reason why they cannot do brought up at the board meeting. 1115 01:56:28.230 --> 01:56:28.950 frank murphy: got it as. 1116 01:56:29.100 --> 01:56:31.500 frank murphy: Suggestions okay. 1117 01:56:33.420 --> 01:56:34.740 frank murphy: Any other Community comments. 1118 01:56:39.720 --> 01:56:42.480 frank murphy: All right, this meeting is adjourned. 1119 01:56:44.820 --> 01:56:46.170 frank murphy: Thank you guys hey pat. 1120 01:56:47.670 --> 01:56:49.350 frank murphy: Did you have any comments back. 1121 01:56:50.460 --> 01:56:51.360 frank murphy: Before we adjourn. 1122 01:56:52.620 --> 01:56:53.820 Pat Raphael: uh so. 1123 01:56:55.170 --> 01:57:03.210 Pat Raphael: We only voted on the amendment and were saying now that this is they'll vote for the full. 1124 01:57:04.680 --> 01:57:08.040 Pat Raphael: Like I i'm a little confused as our we ended the motion that. 1125 01:57:13.770 --> 01:57:15.810 Elizabeth Wright: We voted for the Amended motion. 1126 01:57:16.860 --> 01:57:19.020 frank murphy: We voted for the Amended motion. 1127 01:57:22.200 --> 01:57:26.070 frank murphy: is my understanding that's the way I was envisioning it. 1128 01:57:26.490 --> 01:57:27.690 Elizabeth Wright: that's what I was going on. 1129 01:57:28.110 --> 01:57:34.830 Jody M (He, Him, His): And then the Board will consider the Apps almost and and get the comments and they'll probably do an amendment to that, but what Brian was saying. 1130 01:57:35.370 --> 01:57:35.730 yeah. 1131 01:57:36.840 --> 01:57:38.370 frank murphy: Well, whatever they want to do. 1132 01:57:39.360 --> 01:57:40.410 Pat Raphael: Exactly oh. 1133 01:57:40.470 --> 01:57:48.390 Pat Raphael: If we were looking to include on the record some statements of. 1134 01:57:50.640 --> 01:57:55.200 Pat Raphael: Maybe wanting to have some changes, but at least people who are being benefited. 1135 01:57:56.580 --> 01:57:58.440 Pat Raphael: How could we go about. 1136 01:57:59.580 --> 01:58:00.030 Pat Raphael: Having. 1137 01:58:00.060 --> 01:58:01.710 frank murphy: That you can you can write. 1138 01:58:01.770 --> 01:58:02.340 frank murphy: To the. 1139 01:58:03.150 --> 01:58:04.050 Brian U: Public comment. 1140 01:58:04.080 --> 01:58:05.160 Brian U: approach the sword. 1141 01:58:05.610 --> 01:58:09.060 frank murphy: And, and you can have the board change and the men. 1142 01:58:11.040 --> 01:58:17.250 frank murphy: You know we've already gone past or amendment period are voted on it. 1143 01:58:19.020 --> 01:58:19.740 Brian U: You are you will. 1144 01:58:21.330 --> 01:58:24.090 Brian U: You speak during public comment on the motion item. 1145 01:58:24.990 --> 01:58:26.460 frank murphy: At the at the board meeting. 1146 01:58:26.670 --> 01:58:27.420 Brian U: At the board meeting. 1147 01:58:31.110 --> 01:58:32.280 Jody M (He, Him, His): That sounds like the way to do it. 1148 01:58:33.450 --> 01:58:35.280 frank murphy: Alright, so. 1149 01:58:37.560 --> 01:58:39.690 frank murphy: anybody else with any comments from the committee. 1150 01:58:42.060 --> 01:58:43.830 C Bailey: It into a journey. 1151 01:58:44.790 --> 01:58:47.430 frank murphy: i'm I don't think I need the emotion to. 1152 01:58:47.940 --> 01:58:48.360 It. 1153 01:58:53.520 --> 01:58:55.260 Jody M (He, Him, His): All right, Brian. 1154 01:58:55.380 --> 01:58:56.310 frank murphy: Thanks guys. 1155 01:58:56.610 --> 01:59:00.420 frank murphy: really appreciate it and i'm sorry my visuals were out. 1156 01:59:01.950 --> 01:59:05.430 frank murphy: One of these years on this laptop fix anyhow. 1157 01:59:06.540 --> 01:59:07.710 frank murphy: we'll be talking. 1158 01:59:07.920 --> 01:59:09.870 C Bailey: Thank you very much guys, good evening. 1159 01:59:12.270 --> 01:59:12.570 C Bailey: hi. 1160 01:59:13.200 --> 01:59:14.130 Brian U: hi Thank you.