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jim murez: breaking up a bit, but we'll get there, I sold out i'm promoting you now.

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jim murez: Yes, yeah.

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Ansar Muhammad: we're gonna kick them off and introduce me in Chi right or, should I kick it off.

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jim murez: No, you kick it off you and you this is your you in Chi.

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Ansar Muhammad: Okay.

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jim murez: You can go ahead and start it and solid ads run meetings before too so she can also help if you're questioning that I see vicki is vicki on your committee.

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Ansar Muhammad: not yet, but maybe she will become.

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jim murez: i'm just looking for other your other committee members to show up.

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jim murez: How familiar, are you with working zoom.

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Ansar Muhammad: i'm not i'm familiar with, I can only get on it, but.

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soledad ursua: I can, I can run the meeting for everyone, I asked me to do public comment and everything, so I can do that if you want to make me a Co host.

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Ansar Muhammad: Thank you.

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Ansar Muhammad: I would like to get started at 730.

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soledad ursua: yep after Chi.

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jim murez: yeah you need to have Chi here so that way you don't have a quorum yeah you need to really.

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Ansar Muhammad: spoke to about 30 minutes ago, so she.

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Ansar Muhammad: should be good to go yeah.

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soledad ursua: You know, also Jim the link in the.

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soledad ursua: Agenda didn't work, but people can just copy and paste so let's just give them an extra minute.

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jim murez: What do you mean it didn't work.

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soledad ursua: No, I mean it doesn't have the hyperlink so people have to copy and paste it into their browser oh.

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jim murez: I thought it did hold on i'll go back and double check.

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Ansar Muhammad: let's see kyle now.

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jim murez: let's usually come over pretty much.

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Ansar Muhammad: automatically damn guy.

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jim murez: Well that's ocean for a walk.

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Chie: that's love.

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Ansar Muhammad: We go again yes.

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jim murez: Solid out and open for me.

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soledad ursua: Can you make me a Co host so I can.

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jim murez: I did already.

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Ansar Muhammad: Okay, for the 730.

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jim murez: And I was going to make.

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jim murez: So let's see who else is here.

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jim murez: that's on your committee, just so I can promote them for you just so you could I mean you could do it to it.

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Ansar Muhammad: Or maybe we haven't made any one official, I think, after the night, we can determine that on who's going to actually be a part of the committee.

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jim murez: understood.

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Ansar Muhammad: I think what we should do is get started, I know I have a desire to start on time and and don't climb, at least.

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Ansar Muhammad: that's my goal, so I want to get get started, if we can.

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Ansar Muhammad: see my co host my co chair here.

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Ansar Muhammad: For those of you who don't know my name is answer Sam 100 I will be acting as the co chair for this committee, social justice, social equity and justice Committee, I want to thank him for.

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Ansar Muhammad: His.

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Ansar Muhammad: wise recommendation for me in Chi to chair this committee, so I would like to give car an opportunity to introduce herself as well.

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Chie: hi there i'm Thailand and while I don't come with a professional experience of soda dad and Stan I do come with a commitment to my community.

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Chie: And how i've shown, this is by helping people who feel lost in their career path get job opportunities i'm a teacher in the Community as well.

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Chie: Locally I teach kids about all of Los Angeles and i'm really about learning, this is a space where I want to learn, I want to be able to ask questions and get answers from the Community, about how we can serve you better.

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Chie: And that's my focus i'm a mom and I will always put kids first so a lot of things that you'll hear from me is the biggest priority for me is always to put kids first and put them in a space where.

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Chie: They can feel confident, with growth and diversity is a huge part of that factor having black kids of my own, you know my own children here in Venice just to create a space where they can feel heard and and represented as well and happy juneteenth today.

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Ansar Muhammad: happy to.

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Ansar Muhammad: Well day.

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Ansar Muhammad: In the air kick off.

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Ansar Muhammad: This conversation, you know Saturday will be assisting us here tonight, I want to thank you so much for coming on board and bending your expertise to this process, doing with the zoom and I think what we can do, everybody should have the agenda.

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Chie: it'd be great if she could say a couple of things about herself.

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soledad ursua: I just want to introduce myself, I feel like no one really knows what I do just career wise on so you know i'm third generation Mexican American I was born in East Los Angeles.

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soledad ursua: my grandparents met picking fruit in Salinas and they eventually moved to South kimono but I went, I have a master's degree, I went to the new school in New York it's in policy, with the focus in municipal finance.

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soledad ursua: So my first job out of school, I went to work on Wall Street for urban America it's a minority owned private investment company that focused on the urban cities.

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soledad ursua: It was a subsidiary of unity Paul group, and there was the largest African American owned investment bank in the US so it's basically like the black Goldman Sachs, unfortunately, as everybody knows, we had a major global crisis.

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soledad ursua: Where investment firms like Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers went bankrupt so in 2010 both urban America and you didn't fall went through restructuring.

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soledad ursua: And so, to this day, a minority owned investment bank of that stature and prominence has never emerged.

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soledad ursua: So you know I spent nine years in New York, I moved back to Los Angeles six years ago and I settled in Venice so today what I do is I work with.

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soledad ursua: Community development financial institutions, I help them expand their financial capacity and create lending programs.

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soledad ursua: In low income communities and minority owned businesses, so my latest client was an African American owned bank in La and I worked with them to create an application to the US Treasury.

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soledad ursua: And what it would do is he would invest capital to my own already owned small businesses, and we were awarded $35 million for that lending Program.

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soledad ursua: So what we found is we were creating this business plan was that it was really focused on the racial discrepancies of the rate of the recent paycheck protection program PPP funding.

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soledad ursua: were only 12% of applicants of color received the entire dollar amount that they asked for, and you know Los Angeles had some of the worst coven lockdown mandates and the nation.

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soledad ursua: and communities of color were far hit much harder than a majority white areas, so we found was that white owned businesses receive loans at twice the rate that.

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soledad ursua: Latino businesses owned and one and a half times more than majority black areas and 1.2 times more than Asian areas.

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soledad ursua: So the past 15 years of my career i've spent Investing in Low income communities and really I my whole goal is to ensure blacks us to finance regardless of race and socio economic status so that's what.

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Ansar Muhammad: There, this is a trip on how.

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Ansar Muhammad: me car was speaking earlier on how we need to really get to know one another, we need to really get to know key stakeholders like yourself and others.

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Ansar Muhammad: that's in Venice, because we are in a very rich, not necessarily financially but just not as them and this what you just drop me and that's powerful stuff man I don't even.

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soledad ursua: know I love business finance so i'm always available if somebody wants to talk to me about what they can do to you know, so I I think it's what we really need to focus our time in.

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Ansar Muhammad: So i'm really passionate yeah I might need your help for us.

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Ansar Muhammad: So thank you started that for that I know, everybody know Jim he's our President for the BSC I don't know if you want to introduce yourself.

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Ansar Muhammad: Formally, or officially to this committee.

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jim murez: know every everybody hears enough for me all the time.

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Ansar Muhammad: good job.

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jim murez: Keep keep going you're on a roll.

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Ansar Muhammad: Nice, so thank you guys, I think we have for attendees for our panelists Thank you all for joining us tonight, this is really just the introduction to what we're calling the social justice committee.

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jim murez: Just the standard do me a favor.

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jim murez: follow the agenda look, because this is the first time you've done this.

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jim murez: follow the agenda little bit do a quick roll call, so you can can check off the names or write them down someplace up, who is here and and and, as you go through the the meeting.

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jim murez: keep track of any kind of decisions or things you make by.

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jim murez: makes the motion and and who seconds it and then what kind of a vote you take I don't think you're going to be doing that tonight at least that was my understanding.

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jim murez: That there may not be any actual actions being taken you're just basically talking but doing things like saying okay we're starting the meeting at seven o'clock.

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jim murez: let's take a roll call, and then you call each person's name and they say that yes, they're here, no they're not and and somebody should be recording that so you can post it later.

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Ansar Muhammad: Thank you so definitely done a call to order.

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Ansar Muhammad: And now we can do whoa call.

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jim murez: So, so you you as the as the Chair of the meeting go ahead and.

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jim murez: call out each person's name.

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jim murez: And then they'll say yes they're here are the there you won't get a response at all.

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Ansar Muhammad: Okay, so I would.

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Ansar Muhammad: ask for my my my co chaired Chi.

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Chie: President here present.

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Ansar Muhammad: Then, then solid their presence right and then, of course, on press.

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jim murez: There you go.

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soledad ursua: 738 and we have officially started gone.

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Ansar Muhammad: Thank you, so we have a Point number five discussions and possible action items.

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Chie: description.

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Ansar Muhammad: I would turn the meeting over to Chi who's been going to these questions.

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Chie: So with these questions, I really want actually people who are i'm zooming in with us tonight to answer these questions, I think that what brought you to the meeting tonight is interest in doing something and helping the Community.

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Chie: And if that's the case I am open, we are open and we are ready.

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Chie: For ideas solutions positive responses to things that we could do to take great action so with That being said, I don't know if we need to explain how people click in to answer questions or.

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Chie: You know how to raise their hand, I guess, we are.

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Chie: If you're in the audience.

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jim murez: So it's star nine to raise your hand if you're on a cell phone, otherwise they should see the raise hand icon at the bottom of their screen if they're on a browser and they can just click on that raised their hand.

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jim murez: And you want to try, perhaps I mean.

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jim murez: It depends on how you want to conduct the meeting at this first one, it doesn't matter but at some point, you want to talk about how much time people have to speak.

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jim murez: About you know when they're making public comment and at some point, I guess, in a in a next agenda you'll want to have public comment of items, not on the agenda okay one doesn't have that because there was nothing that we knew to be on the agenda so everything's off agenda but.

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Chie: So we'll get one minute actually for answers.

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soledad ursua: Oh no why don't we give them a little more since it's like okay well, let me just I have to stop sharing to just the timer um what because sometimes, one minute is a little fast, what do you.

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Chie: Maybe three okay.

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jim murez: Or you can give them one minute and go back around to another minute and let it, you can just do it, however, you want to you could also have reformed discussion, if you want.

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Chie: yeah alright so i'm going to start with the first question, how can we represent the cultural diversity that makes up this better, and when I say, we obviously the committee but, more importantly, the Community as well, because we are part of the Community.

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soledad ursua: let's see if you want to comment, please raise your hand and let's try to stay on topic.

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soledad ursua: If not seeing any hands raised.

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soledad ursua: Okay we've got one all right, let me go ahead and says, the first time I have had to do the clock and do public comment, so what i'm going to do is, I will just I will do the clock in a separate windows, but i'll just give.

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soledad ursua: You i'll let you know when you're down to one minute.

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Chie: I can even do the clock to or if you can that's great so ladette you're faster technology than me with that.

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jim murez: Or, if you want, so that I can also help by by calling on the people that have their hands raised.

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soledad ursua: Okay, maybe you could do that and i'll do the clock for us.

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jim murez: Okay, so are you ready for the clock so Lisa Lisa Lisa redmond.

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jim murez: is the only person that seems to have their hand up and i'm going to allow her to talk about go ahead Lisa.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: um yeah regarding your first question, how can you represent the cultural diversity that makes up Venice.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I would recommend that you scan down, I have a really hard time with people that are very law and order, and you know walk hand in hand with the Sheriff.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Who is known to target black and brown people who is known to harass the victims of black and brown families of people that has deputies of shot, I am just horrified that it is a committee made up with people who are so anti homeless, as we know.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Los Angeles, has a black population of probably approximately 8% and about 40% of our unhealthy residents and stakeholders of dentists, are black people and people of color and I think a lot of that needs to be taken into consideration, between you three.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And you're making a lot of mixed messages by reading this committee and what you do on one thing and then save another.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: that's all i've got to say printer right.

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Chie: node and.

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Chie: Thank you.

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soledad ursua: All right.

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Chie: Any other hands up.

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jim murez: Yes.

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Chie: Oh wonderful.

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jim murez: Okay, is it Lionel.

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jim murez: Go ahead.

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Lionel: Yes, good afternoon fellow board members, my name is blind all this is my first time making a.

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Lionel: comment with the Venice neighborhood console and a board member myself and my neighborhood console and I participated in many neighborhood Council meetings and me see the hall meetings and.

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Lionel: I am frustrated sad depressed that there's so much infighting among us la city residents too much toxic partisan.

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Lionel: part on politics that is dividing us better than uniting us and, at this time, at this crucial time facing high inflation, you know unemployment homelessness housing crisis, we have to work together on the things that we can work on the things that we can agree on.

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Lionel: i'm also in my neighborhood contract ulster's issues for my new console so I understand the tension is some members of my neighborhood Council are Conservative, I think that they're not really.

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Lionel: Much.

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soledad ursua: And I encourage you.

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Lionel: work together to be more proactive more open minded, like me, I tend to absorb I tend to listen more and I tend to understand from a sociological psychological perspective multi point perspective, and I want everyone to help.

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Lionel: People who are suffering or unemployed on house people who are struggling and people with advanced degrees like myself.

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Lionel: I struggle, I have a clean record so it's not just people who suffer from mental illness or directed that you play, but even people with college degrees with clean records are suffering with unemployment housing crisis so.

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Lionel: it's not just one group of people, so that affects everybody, and I just want peace and stability, and I have been sick and tired of all the fighting for the past three years, and I just.

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Lionel: traumatized traumatizes me and i'm still fighting for this, because that Teddy Roosevelt there's a fire of life in me that keeps pushing board.

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Lionel: Because I want to make progress, changes and I don't want to see no more division racism hypocrisy from nobody that price to everyone so.

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Lionel: Thank you for your time, I appreciate your time consideration, I hope that you.

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Lionel: can all work with Mr Mike probably even though we may not know each other, but I heard a little bit about him, but I know other people, but just one piece because i'm a I see myself as a peacemaker, not a fighter a peacemaker, thank you for your time.

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Chie: Thank you.

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jim murez: Okay.

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jim murez: Robin miras you're unmuted.

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jim murez: Robin miras.

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jim murez: You have to speak.

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Robin Murez: Speaking.

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Robin Murez: Okay now.

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Robin Murez: Yes, i'm sorry I was trying out some earbuds and I don't quite know how to use them so Lionel right on i'd have to say that I to perceive that.

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Robin Murez: there's too much division in every way too much of a desire to misunderstand one another, and we all need to realize think in the Venice neighborhood Council that.

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Robin Murez: People are participating because they want to do something positive, and we don't always recognize that what we're trying to do is positive Lisa I know that.

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Robin Murez: You you know, have a huge heart and want to do good work for people who need help, and I think you should realize that so do others who don't necessarily.

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Robin Murez: agree that it's healthy for an housed to be out on our streets, there are other solutions that.

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Robin Murez: That you know we hope to see happen, and so I think that there's you know, an element of understanding and compassion that we all have to have and to realize that.

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Robin Murez: nobody's black and white, the Sheriff isn't all evil i've seen him do some wonderful things.

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Robin Murez: And you know all of us, and all of you on the committee, I think this is awesome that you're trying to bring us together, and I also see tensions among.

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Robin Murez: People of the same color with the neighborhood Council so yeah it's all about people trying to be positive and work for something positive, rather than trying to find problems and we don't we definitely have enough to fight against Venice needs to hold together and.

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Robin Murez: that's all I say thanks for creating this committee and for all that the three of you do, for it.

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jim murez: yeah The next speaker is, I believe, have you pronounce it is it elaine.

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jim murez: eileen eileen okay Sorry, I think.

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Eileen Bryant Archibald, Original Save Venice: I feeling Brian Archibald Thank you um i'm going to be listening at this meeting, not speaking much because I don't trust.

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Eileen Bryant Archibald, Original Save Venice: The leaders they've chosen and my experience in the last year and a half.

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Eileen Bryant Archibald, Original Save Venice: dnc meetings i've encountered a lot of disrespect and I don't trust that's all I have to say, for now, I will be attending and once I feel that I can trust this group, then I will say more, thank you.

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Chie: Thank you.

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Chie: Now I appreciate everyone who's commenting and next question is let's get to know each other So what do you do in the Community to contribute, now that you would like, for people to know about.

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Chie: love to see some hands raised, I know a lot of you do some great things and it's just as a great opportunity for us all to get to know each other better.

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jim murez: Just one hand went up.

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soledad ursua: Should we go ahead and start with that one person and say.

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jim murez: i'm Robin mirrors go ahead you're unmuted.

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Robin Murez: So I want to bring it back to the committee and ask all of you guys also to talk about what you do I think some people, people on this call may know that what I do in the Community, a lot is create public art that brings out the cool stories of the genesis history and that's a very.

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Robin Murez: I think it's something that is intended to bring us together to have us all see pride in our multicultural and you know very interesting heritage's and.

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Robin Murez: So that's what I do and I create little park glitz and I like to make the Community better place visually and with interesting interactive elements, but I want to hear from everybody.

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Chie: I think, since Robin was the only one who had her hand up for that one I think this is a great opportunity we can definitely answer this we kind of touched a little bit on what we do.

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Chie: For me, I lived in Santa Monica for 20 years before moving to Venice I moved to Venice about three years ago.

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Chie: And as soon as I got here I recognize obviously it's a dramatic difference between Santa Monica and Venice, even though I.

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Chie: Was teaching I teach little kids about diversity and culture all over Los Angeles, including Venice, it was a it was a huge learning curve right away coming into Venice so for the last three years, what i've been really focused on is learning more than anything.

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Robin Murez: But also doing what I did for in Santa Monica quite a bit and what i've done, you know just.

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Chie: forever and that's helping people who are on the street know that they're worth know that the government system, making millions of dollars off of them is not acceptable.

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Chie: That we need more understanding of job training rehab and.

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Chie: We need to make sure that the streets are safe for children so part of what i've done for the last three years for our Community, more than anything is learning but speaking up for those who are listening.

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Chie: On the fact that we don't have to accept certain rules, just because of being a minority black woman, you know I can make my own rules, I like the idea of normalizing greatness and greatness means that I deserve wonderful parks, I deserve wonderful spaces and.

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Chie: And speaking up for those for those things and, more importantly, people who are you know who don't have.

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Chie: You know, food and shelter and things of that nature that they deserve those things, but they also deserve to have.

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Chie: job training they deserve to have rehabilitation mental health healing and and that they shouldn't settle for anything less so that's been my big focus and, of course, like I said before.

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Chie: to helping kids learn helping kids have a safe space during covert teaching doing you know doing Community teaching in my yard things of that nature so that's me.

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soledad ursua: And do you want to go ahead if, like you, have you do so much.

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Ansar Muhammad: Multi generational gang and drug family and Venice, not to say that my grandmother, and it was all selling drugs.

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Ansar Muhammad: But I had uncles and auntie's and cousins and.

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Ansar Muhammad: None of my family members was in involved in that lifestyle my grandmother great grandmother came in here and not in business in 1901.

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Ansar Muhammad: settled there from Arkansas brought her her mother, which was, I mean her daughter, which was my grandmother ultimately brought.

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Ansar Muhammad: her children from Arkansas and we all found ourselves living at 524 westminister right now on that property there's two small bottle of homes, but when I was a little boy, that was a big house, right now, they seem to be small, because I didn't get grown.

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Ansar Muhammad: But 25 years ago, I decided to you know go against what I saw my life and that's the drugs in the Games found myself in the federal penitentiary i've done time.

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Ansar Muhammad: I got out October 95 call myself, regardless of what i'm faced with when I come home i'm not going to be influenced by none of my relatives i'm not going to be influenced by any my homies that was looking up to me, before I left.

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Ansar Muhammad: And ultimately, I started doing outreach work.

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Ansar Muhammad: right there in Venice broadway fifth at 6am westminister all throughout that area, I was doing outreach work.

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Ansar Muhammad: and identify young brothers who was still like a lot in their lifestyle and, ultimately, I was able to you know attract a few of them.

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Ansar Muhammad: And from that attraction we created something called would that at that time Dennis 2000 was our aim and purpose we reduce game, or the beta cry.

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Ansar Muhammad: We knew that Venice that particular area was a major war that took place between the African American gang and Latino gang in the early 90s, a lot of bloodshed, a lot of violence, a lot of.

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Ansar Muhammad: We won't be shooting at each other and ultimately brought along with a few of my guys we brought to Latino leaders to the table, and we had a conversation right and the beer Davison.

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Ansar Muhammad: And that conversation produce what we now call the non aggression agreement out of that conversation I have a we also created a nonprofit organization called since 2008 K a.

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Ansar Muhammad: Now help with foundation, but you all can see the work because we haven't had a one murder, since we created the non aggression agreement between the black and the brown games in Venice, not one letter.

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Ansar Muhammad: Since we played it the non aggression agreement prior to that non aggression agreement, there was a lot of activity and what ended up happening is being middle road and, at the time, very body.

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Ansar Muhammad: And we actually expanded it beyond business, we had to non aggression being with the culver city USA still in play, we haven't had any murders lately.

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Ansar Muhammad: We have to non aggression women with the Santa Monica listen and so this work that I do is all predicated on violence reduction Community violence reduction and.

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Ansar Muhammad: i'm proud of it, because we have a team now a peacemakers is out the anomaly in Venice but block the country, we have to do individuals my my colleague melvin.

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Ansar Muhammad: hayward jr you guys might have known as Father melvin senior what this man is in Chicago now okay during piece where can we do Sunday and bringing bringing.

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Ansar Muhammad: The best practices that we develop and Dennis is in South Chicago Southwest corner so it's a lot there for everybody to know to know if you want to go to help a foundation underscore you can see, the actual Twitter page because we try to post a lot of pictures.

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Ansar Muhammad: That activity that you guys saw oakwood over weekend all ever produced dive Venice 2000 over 18 years ago it was not named Jim T.

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Ansar Muhammad: was named the deer remembrance, because we had a desire to honor the families who have lost loved ones in that area.

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Ansar Muhammad: lot of blood has been built within a one mile radius and benefits and we never want to lose sight of that so every year, but we would do is, we would bring obituaries out with a blade obituaries out up into a.

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Ansar Muhammad: poster size, we will walk around the communities where our local currency, we will pray at the scene, where we know the black and brown folks was killed, we believe a rose there and then we'll come back to the park and have an activity, this year the grand finale.

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Ansar Muhammad: Okay, Venice June take celebration, so those that help organize that Neil Nightingale.

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Ansar Muhammad: Okay Tommy Walker and others put that together, but the point i'm trying to make is that energy we've been creating it for the past 18 years so.

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Ansar Muhammad: The word continuous the mission continues and we're not going to be a committee that's going to be focused on the problem.

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Ansar Muhammad: matter of fact i'm going to encourage everybody if you don't have a solution, we have our committee meetings i'm respectfully say don't come because we want to find solutions, we want to deal with solution based policies, we also want to talk about why it's important to have broad collaboration.

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Ansar Muhammad: Why is it important to have brought collaboration, because without collaboration my experiences is different from Saturday.

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Ansar Muhammad: Saturday of experience is different from time but guess what we're all coming together, because we have a desire to bring solutions to our Community.

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Ansar Muhammad: period, and if this is called the social justice and equity committee i'm hoping that everybody when they show up they bring a level of collaboration to the table.

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Ansar Muhammad: Because, all of us is not going to agree on everything, but one thing we can agree on is, we can look at how we, it is diverse now.

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Ansar Muhammad: We can begin to have relationships built across racial and economic lines, and we can look at the small guy right now we see them in the homeless and cabinets.

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Ansar Muhammad: We see them still we still got young daughters represent finish line and Vito team, we got families is still recovering from that residue of the bias that took place, we got loved ones that's incarcerated one like without behind that murder.

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Ansar Muhammad: Those murders, so we got to look at this thing from a different lens now I didn't come on to this Community, just to be a part of the committee.

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Ansar Muhammad: I really would like for us to effect real change, and I believe we can do if we show up with solutions i'm going to be listening from that year from now.

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Ansar Muhammad: So if I don't hear the solution, then guess what you're the problem you're the problem, the person is bringing the problem to us as the phone.

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Ansar Muhammad: So check yourself in the mirror, because Mr Mohammed is going to be looking for solution solution solution so that's really enough for now.

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Ansar Muhammad: And I see, we have some beautiful people in our audience, we have Jason sure there's an audience, we have dickie holiday in our audience, we have this beautiful woman who was my mentor okay so you're really want to know Naomi night getting my mentor.

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Ansar Muhammad: In another agency, so this will know we've already heard from Lisa.

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Ansar Muhammad: let's just dive into this thing and we get more structured up.

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Ansar Muhammad: At some point you're gonna be talking about you're not following this you're not following that.

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Ansar Muhammad: problem brainless little since we're not following it and bring a solution to help us follow was like jam check me on the front end and you got it you got it you got to introduce everybody so.

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Ansar Muhammad: Help us out here, because we're representing the people we're not representing ourselves, so thank just five cents on that dog okay so she really want to know who's in firm.

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Ansar Muhammad: I love it yeah man Dennis was in my blood I can't get over I can look man, if I thought man, this is a moment that's all.

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Chie: that's all I gotta love it.

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Chie: All right on that note I think it's great to just move to the next question, do you see divisions in Venice and, if so, do you feel the desire to have them broken down.

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Chie: You know, so this is a big one, you know, do we see divisions and do we even want them broken down or do we feel like you know spaces supposed to be separate and.

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Chie: You know, and no one's supposed to be able to you know go to this area versus that area are we ready for some solutions to break down some of these barriers i'd love to see some hands go up.

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soledad ursua: So I think that's something that people don't know that I do for a living, but just by way of background, you know I think I mean the reason that I got involved.

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soledad ursua: You know I I grew up in Elsa Reno that's where I was born and in the late 90s my mother and I were very violently carjacked.

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soledad ursua: That area, back then, was either so much gang violence, and you know I would get stuck in the crossfire as most children and.

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soledad ursua: I would get jumped, and so my grades started I started getting d's and f's.

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soledad ursua: Because you can't study you can't focus, knowing that you're going to have to leave your classroom and walk home and you're going to have to fight with people.

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soledad ursua: And so, luckily, you know I ended up moving to self kimono with my dad it's about an hour and a half inland.

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soledad ursua: And I got to go to you know working class Catholic school and honestly if it weren't for Catholic school I don't think I would be here today, I would have never went to college so Catholic school really saved my life.

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soledad ursua: And what was important for me was that it was a safe space and I flourished academically you know I got I got a full ride to uc Santa Barbara.

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soledad ursua: So it's just crazy that you know, I was getting d's and f's in public school because I I was getting ready to fight so how was I going to.

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soledad ursua: You know, do my homework or focus and science or math, so I think my biggest thing is, I want to ensure that we have safe communities.

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soledad ursua: Because I know personally that I would never be here today, if I didn't feel safe and and really I think the ticket out of poverty is education.

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soledad ursua: You know it's your only way out, and I mean it's really the only reason that i'm here today, so I want safe communities, I believe everybody deserves to have just safe spaces so.

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Chie: All right, i'm going to repeat that next question, do you see divisions in Venice and, if so, do you feel the desire to have them broken down.

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jim murez: So people should put their hands up if.

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Chie: Exactly I will happily start while we're waiting for people to raise their hands moving here to Venice, it was a big eye opener, even though I moved here during the.

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Chie: During coven it was a big eye opener about seeing how many people would say that you're you're not you're not from Venice and idea that I was trying to.

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Chie: right away, you know, understand and learn why we had certain situations in Venice, and you know join the Vinci and just seeing you know meeting Stan and going out voluntary, with the help of foundation seeing the.

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Chie: amazing work that he does in the Community, seeing children that they all knew by name, going to these homes, this was a huge part my kids jumping right into going to the boys and girls club and Venice.

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Chie: I saw the division lines, I saw the division lines of more than anything, not accepting people who are new to Venice That was one division line, then I saw a division line of things like.

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Chie: Like a repeat of this weekend, for example, to juneteenth event, you know not seeing enough of the outside Community.

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Chie: joining in celebrating being a part of something positive, that was a huge division line that i've seen over and over in Venice i'd love to see more happening like that at penn mark i'm seeing division lines, right now, at penn mar.

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Chie: The golf course they do music every Wednesday night I would love to see more if anyone out there knows of any music groups that are in Venice, you know that are diverse.

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Chie: You know present themselves to be a part of that Wednesday night event So these are the types of things that i'm saying and i'm like.

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Chie: Why don't we have any logos playing at the Wednesday night events why don't I see any diversity playing music here, why didn't I see anything for June 18.

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Chie: At the pin mark park why didn't I see flyers for the one that was at oakwood park so we're with me coming in, I see a lot of division lines.

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Chie: That i'm that i'm excited to break down, but I want to know if the Community is interested in breaking those barriers as well, I see naomi's hand down something up someone who I highly admire and can't wait to get to know better.

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jim murez: So let's go to Naomi you're unmuted where did you go.

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jim murez: She just disappeared.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: Why i'm here I don't know if i'm.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: Can you hear me.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: So, so I know.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: That I understand what you're saying when you say there's division lines, I think that there are some.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: distinctive differences in how people think and feel and the culture or traditions that they have based on where they grew up and.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: Their family structures in their friendships so I don't see that necessarily as a.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: As a negative, I think that there definitely can be more done in terms of people getting to know each other.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: The better and activities being set up, so that there are opportunities for engagement and exchange, but I think that there's always going to be situations where people will want to.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: sell celebrate their traditions and celebrate their differences, I don't think you have to get rid of your differences.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: To be a part of a whole community, I mean this is this is who we are there is what diversity is all about the fact that you are diverse and that everybody is not the same.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: I think, where I see things is being able to accept the differences of other people and not feel like they have to be like you, or you like them, but providing the opportunity for people to join, or to have access.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: At one time the Venice neighborhood Council did have districts and the reason that it had districts was.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: It was to ensure that the ideas, the opinions, the suggestions recommendations from a particular area were brought to the table so that they could be considered.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: In the midst of the whole discussion and exchange of information, so that then from the neighborhood Council those ideas could be.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: Better.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: edit and distributed and it wasn't just that particular district that got the information, but the back to bring it to the table, because that's what your concern was, but the resolution.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: And out to the entire district, but the entire neighborhood Council so Those are the things that i'm looking at not necessarily looking at.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: Making the distinction of how things are different or looking at describing divide because we're always going to have that diversity and that differences, but how do we celebrate that and how do we make sure that we're not judging against the people that.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: don't think the same as we do, but we find a way to make it a community that we quit looking at how we destroy and a negative.

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soledad ursua: To.

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soledad ursua: turn the mirror off.

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Ansar Muhammad: For those of you who may not know the history of Venice neighborhood Council it was Naomi Nightingale and others.

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Ansar Muhammad: Who was able to get us to have a neighborhood Council in the original name has not been as good wasn't been his neighbor it was grassroot Venice neighborhood Council, and the first President that we had you just spoke she spoke to you guys so.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: The Vice President.

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Ansar Muhammad: or VP okay I.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: dd.

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Ansar Muhammad: dd resident please man.

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jim murez: What happened what happened to trisha.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: trisha Brazilian was actually one of the initial starters, of the grassroots Minister neighborhood Council.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: Right, when I moved here from Council district eight where we had an empowerment group we bought that to Venice and trisha was already having meetings up at the boys and girls club she didn't want to serve in.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: A position, but she was an organizer she was the primary organizer.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: Of the grass.

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jim murez: yep.

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Ansar Muhammad: What happened to this neighborhood Council.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: I was the first, where I was at first represent this for the oakland area when we had seven districts and then in the second term of the.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: Of the grassroots finished neighborhood Council dd audit was the President, and I was the President, I think we were the Eighth, if I remember correctly, Dan we were the eighth.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: neighborhood Council throughout the city that was certified as a neighbor.

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jim murez: I think you're correct, we were very early on, and you know what we still continue to lead in the most participation.

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Ansar Muhammad: don't blame anybody, for me, getting this stuff here with Naomi blame her.

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Ansar Muhammad: Originally.

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jim murez: We have we have two more hands up.

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jim murez: We have we have two more hands up i'm Robin.

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jim murez: You asked to speak Naomi i'm going to put your hand down for now raise it again.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: yeah right now yeah right okay.

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jim murez: Okay, Robin go ahead and.

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Robin Murez: you're unmuted hi, so I would go back to what.

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Robin Murez: Leon said at the beginning, and I feel like there's an elephant in the room, you know that expression of we're not talking about.

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Robin Murez: What a very obvious thing that I feel like Venice has been going through, for the last several years and that is that um the minute we have differences of opinion there is name calling going on.

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Robin Murez: And, rather than.

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Robin Murez: Was that a yes from Stan.

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Robin Murez: yeah yeah yeah so rather than people trying to understand.

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Robin Murez: different ideas and maybe understand that different approaches can be worthwhile instead.

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Robin Murez: You know, there are names like segregationists or nimbys names like that being used, which I think are it's like trump Ian you know that is not.

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Robin Murez: As I said, you know it's or or solid and it's all about education, too, and we have to be able to learn and educate one another and be open to learning from one another, and we have to break down barriers, of course, I think.

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Robin Murez: I think most people, I would like to say who.

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Robin Murez: live in Venice or come to Venice do so, knowing that it is a diverse Community one of maybe the most diverse communities in La or it's just certainly a very diverse Community so to call people out for having.

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Robin Murez: different backgrounds are different ideas, it is completely inappropriate, I think, and not beneficial and i'm with you stand that we need to be looking at solutions, but I also think that a lot of this.

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Robin Murez: effort to create racial divides in Venice, in the last few years has come from without has been like a political maneuver to like divide and conquer us and I really feel that we need to.

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Robin Murez: look beyond those name callings and see what the real substance of different ideas is and how we can solve problems.

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Robin Murez: that's all.

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jim murez: Thank you um Lisa redmond you had your hand up go ahead, please.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: um yeah i'm going to say that a huge division that occurs in Venice we just saw really play out well with the primary election for a new.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: City Council candidate is there's a huge law and order crowd and a pro police crowd and think that that's, the only way that it can be done, but yet there's other ways to.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And I think by things already set in this committee and some later questions, I think this is dangerously.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I want you to think about what kind of a committee, you are because I think you're dangerously treading the line of being a public safety committee.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: But what we need to do is look at these divisions of the pro Lon order versus the people that want alternative.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: To policing that wants to defund the police that want more of an abolitionist to find more mental health crews to find more alternatives to policing.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: That can fix and take care of problems, not just for the House, but also for domestic disputes, domestic violence, other mental health issues, simple.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Drug use issues, this also happens to a lot of house people more than people care to admit so let's you know, look at that huge division alone from being so nothing can get fixed in this Community unless we are pro police.

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jim murez: Thank you Lisa i'm going to lower your hand for you.

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jim murez: i'm Leon.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Line oh.

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jim murez: Well, I got it wrong last time I figured i'd try again line oh you're unmuted go.

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Lionel: ahead, and thank you that's fine to ECHO to what Dr Naomi Am I correct I pronounce your name correctly what she said to add to add to what she said that um I believe that diversity alone is not enough, inclusive city it's also important.

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Lionel: Like I said before being open minded I know it's tough for many people out there, because I studied social psychology and I know we're stuck in our own ideology our own viewpoints and.

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Lionel: Which is why it's important to listen more than than to talk more and to at least understand from the experiences of other people what they gone through what they've been through because.

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Lionel: i've participated so many meetings across la city different every console learning observing others paying attention and.

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Lionel: And I agree that um there's so much tension, but I also try to realize I try to understand other people's perspective, why do they feel this way.

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Lionel: Why do they think this way from a sociologist point of view, because they said sociology my professors i've taught me look at it look at it from the bigger picture not so small picture saying.

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Lionel: And I feel like all of us, because we're all residents of La city, all of us have to work together, it shouldn't be a district versus district issue or it's not my problem it's your problem, because what happens is.

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Lionel: For example, here's a perfect example dealing with on house neighbors and one district push them aside, then the other district has a deal with them and that people they're getting mad and they go back and forth.

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Lionel: it's all of us as a city as a whole and that's it shouldn't be a district or neighborhood conference there's never a console and I feel like and we all work together, because I.

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Lionel: i'm struggling with my own neighborhood console third like I said before, there are some Members in my name of Kansas, who are, I think, who I proceed to be conservative and by i'm by far the most progressive.

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Lionel: board member in my neighborhood Council and I struggle and sometimes I get discouraged like oh my God, I feel like giving up because.

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Lionel: I tried to give them information resources, I try to give them examples of other activists helping our own House neighbors pushing for compassionate.

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Lionel: Policies rather than you know mean policies and some of them don't want to, or they liked it but they don't want it like and I struggle, but I like I said before, i'm still in this because.

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Lionel: The fire of life is in me and I want to help, I want to be part of the action and I just encourage you to work with others.

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Lionel: Even if you may not agree with their viewpoints, but just for this part barrier society because we as human beings, we pre our own barriers and we convince ourselves, we have to get out of this and and and approach it in a open minded matter, thank you.

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Lionel: Thank you.

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jim murez: Thank you, and I see that Dr night and kill has her hand up again.

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jim murez: Was that, for the same item Oh, it just went down.

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jim murez: No backup.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: Okay, I just want to clear clear up something, you know that.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: I think that the neighborhood Council should be more diverse I don't think it has the diversity on it that that is really representative of the Venice neighborhood.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: When I grew up in this is part of the part of the issue that we're dealing with now is that business for me was that 1.5 mile area where black people were resigned to live in that community.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: And we didn't live anyplace else and it wasn't open, but it was just going to us so part of having a committee like this and moving to be inclusive, just to understand where people are and where it is that we need to go.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: throughout the entire Venice community and understand that, perhaps, maybe one of the things that the committee should.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: Think about doing as a first effort is to have.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: This day of dialogue or time for people to really say where they are and what their issues are and where they would like to go, not as a matter of a debate.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: or an argument or us against them, but what are we, where are we really in where are we really trying to go, so that there is some understanding of a starting point in terms of the discussion.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: Because a lot of people, many people, some of them are no longer here, but who grew up in that Venice Community feel attacked feel wounded feel that the Community was.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: That they were blindsided by developers and and investors that came into a community that they felt and I felt the same way that nobody really cared about it, except us.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: And then, when we found that it was really different it was about money it wasn't about culture it wasn't about saving history it wasn't about.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: Recognizing the significance of what had happened, or what had been contributed to the Community.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: of people who lived here, so now we look at Venice and a larger view with a broader I with understanding that outside of this 1.5 square mile area is another part of the Venice community that we will, as is there, but it wasn't part of our culture, when we grew up and so.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: i'm just saying that.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: When I talked about district it wasn't because we were against pitting want to guess the other, it was to make sure that the.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: concerns of a particular area are brought to the table and should be discussed as a whole, as I said, but I agree with the gentleman who said, not just diversity but inclusive inclusive city.

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Dr. Naomi Nightingale: And the attitude and feeling of belonging, is important to the entire Community so.

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Chie: Thank you.

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Chie: All right, i'm going to move forward to the next question what role, can I play to uplift my community.

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Chie: And with that one i'm going to i'll answer it first so people can have some seconds to raise their hand and think about their answer and, again, the question is, what role, can I play to uplift my community.

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Chie: The next thing on the list is one of the ideas that I had the picture of original owner showing history of places.

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Chie: That we see around us as gentrified so where that concept came from with me and my mind is.

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Chie: The role that I play in my community to uplift it is being a part of this committee is one big part for me learning from people who have been here doing this for a lot longer than I have.

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Chie: And being humbled enough to really hear their solutions and here are the things that they've done but working in Santa Monica.

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Chie: i've seen the the the building of the belmont Park, which is right across the street, from where I teach and knowing like there's a gentleman named Alan.

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Chie: The building that we're in and he comes every month and brings us fruits and vegetables, with his wife he's 100 years old, a black man.

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Chie: And he comes with stories he comes with rich history of Santa Monica.

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Chie: And it just opened my eyes to this idea that as much as Alan comes There we have pictures of him, like personally with us, but we have not posted a picture of him.

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Chie: And so, with thinking about this community and things like that I had this Aha moment that we're going to have a celebration for Alan and and make a plaque and put it on the building.

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Chie: While we still you know we're blessed to have him still coming bringing us, you know, fruit and and stories and knowledge and looking at Venice, in the same way that.

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Chie: That he talks about how he built the second story on the building and the end how he planted the trees that my my husband comes and TRIMs up every season.

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Chie: I know that these types of places exist in Venice I don't know where they are, I need the community's help with that idea, but what I would love to do is see.

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Chie: Some strong representation of their original people who had businesses in Venice, who are minority businesses.

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Chie: And and just play you know pay us some level of a tribute, and I think that the only way I thought of was plaques on these buildings and just open to other solutions and ideas, but these are some of the things that I thought of to.

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Chie: uplift my Community so i'd love to see some hands up you know for ideas that you all have to uplift our community as well.

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Ansar Muhammad: yeah man was Hannah.

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jim murez: I will raise my hand i'm back in the.

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jim murez: late 80s, I participated in something that that was a Community organization, back then, there was two two primary Community organizations.

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jim murez: Who was the Venice Action Committee in the Venice town council.

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jim murez: And, and I want to sort of say that they were rival organizations, but on the other hand, they were both working and positive directions to do their own thing.

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jim murez: One of the things that I got involved in very early on in in my time in in Venice back in the 80s was tree planting.

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jim murez: And, and one of the things we did was we put plaques at the bottoms of the trees and we let people buy the trees paper help pay for the the installation of the trees, but the brass plaques appeared to the dedication of people.

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jim murez: That the tree that's in front of the Rose CAFE was a plaque that was put there by a man that was dedicating it to his grandchildren and and.

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jim murez: You know there's there been many of those I think we put in something in the neighborhood of about 400 of those plaques.

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jim murez: Many of the plaques have been removed by who knows who but there's still quite a few of them along Abbot Kenny, and if you read the plaques.

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jim murez: A lot of them have a history, something that you know somebody special that that participated in the Community at some point in time and and that's something that.

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jim murez: And the other kinds of things like that that i've seen done in the past, outside the the Victorian.

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jim murez: in Santa Monica I don't know if you've ever noticed the brick wall that's there, but the brick wall was purchased by people in the Community dedicating them.

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jim murez: To two people that wanted to help participate and and support the the Community concept of creating a Community town Center around the Victorian.

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jim murez: And all of its history, I don't know how many of you realize, but the Victorian didn't used to be there.

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jim murez: It was up on ocean avenue north of well sure, and they moved it down there in the mid 70s and that building was completely restored, because it was one of the early.

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jim murez: Early Victorian homes of the city of Santa Monica and and actually both in the music museum next to it so as people wanted to participate in this concept, they created this this fundraising effort.

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jim murez: Around buying bricks and having your bricking in Greek engage, excuse me engraved with with some statement about something that they wanted to say.

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jim murez: and actually outside the viewer Davis Center which used to be our library I don't know how many of you've ever noticed that there's a wall of mosaic tiles and that was a wall that was created in the early 90s.

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jim murez: by the Venice family clinic as an outreach effort for the art walk and for the better part of.

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jim murez: Three or four months anybody in the Community, they would hold these weekend events where kids and families could come by and paint ceramic tiles and then they made this beautiful wall of history.

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jim murez: Of the Venice if you ever look at the tiles there's a huge amount of history on there and then later on the building was actually then renamed a viewer Davis Center.

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jim murez: Because very Davis was this amazing woman that was helping women with children get off the street, and she was supporting them and in her place over in oakwood them.

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jim murez: And when she passed away, they they named the the old library that way and made it into Community Center so yeah I think there's a lot of of history and a lot of ways that people could reach out and participate and join together and start to document some of this stuff.

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jim murez: there's a hand up Robin Robin has her.

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Robin Murez: So Chi um you know I created this committee, a couple months ago at the neighborhood Council called preserving public places and we submitted a few.

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Robin Murez: grant requests, you know for funding to the neighborhood Council and one of them was for specifically as what you're talking about putting plaques up that will you know identify historic.

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Robin Murez: places giving story, giving the story of what's there, so it wasn't funded, nor was anything in it apparently anything that has my last name on it was being sabotaged.

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Robin Murez: That another part of what we had applied for was to do a mobile APP so that anybody, no matter where you're standing and Venice, you could pull it up on your cell phone and you could see what's around you and you could either Rome or you can follow a path to let's say see what is.

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Robin Murez: You know, black history and Dennis or the parks of Venice or trees of Venice or.

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Robin Murez: You know the elements along ocean for a walk anyway, these are all actually the things I mentioning things that other committees and other people have all said they would like to.

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Robin Murez: also contribute to this mobile APP well that, too, was shot down so i'm sorry to be expressing negativity, but it was pretty frustrating because we put a lot of effort into.

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Robin Murez: applying for those.

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Robin Murez: Those grants and I think their ideas that everybody seems to want and like, and so we hope to still do them actually I may just like so i've got about a dozen or more sculptures all around Venice that all do have.

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Robin Murez: Their interactive sculptures that bring out stories of history, Venice and have plaques on them that tell the stories, including and then I also built the labyrinth that sixth in San Juan.

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Robin Murez: Where that was a church it, since in nobody it was all Beijing rundown and I went into the church and.

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Robin Murez: And realized, it was a craftsman and ask them to choose three colors and I bought the paint and had some donated and hired people and also got a lot of neighbors out to help and.

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Robin Murez: We built the in ground labyrinth there and then later it was recognized that that was the Monday women's club.

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Robin Murez: i'm not black i've lived in Venice much of the past, like 30 years.

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Robin Murez: But I have tremendous respect for our history, our multi cultural history, and I have been doing these public art elements all around the neighborhood for years there's the camel group on Main Street there's.

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Robin Murez: The mosaic balls in centennial park and the corner ballpark, and so they all have plaques they all have qr codes, we can.

471
01:05:22.410 --> 01:05:27.390
Robin Murez: expand this into something that more people can enjoy and.

472
01:05:28.710 --> 01:05:35.400
Robin Murez: And should be available to everyone, and hopefully the neighborhood Council will enable it.

473
01:05:37.140 --> 01:05:38.220
Chie: I think that's something we.

474
01:05:38.220 --> 01:05:42.000
Chie: definitely need to figure out and connect more on Thank you.

475
01:05:42.300 --> 01:05:43.200
soledad ursua: take time.

476
01:05:43.980 --> 01:05:54.510
jim murez: yeah i'm Jason had his hand up I don't know if it went down accidentally or Jason did you want to say something that me allow you to talk there you go Jason.

477
01:05:55.890 --> 01:05:57.120
jim murez: You have to unmute yourself.

478
01:05:59.880 --> 01:06:00.270
Jason Sugars: Hello.

479
01:06:00.660 --> 01:06:01.230
jim murez: There you go.

480
01:06:02.580 --> 01:06:02.760
jim murez: yeah.

481
01:06:02.790 --> 01:06:08.100
Jason Sugars: I just, I just wanted to I guess just say hello to everybody stand in.

482
01:06:09.270 --> 01:06:13.020
Jason Sugars: tip my hat at least what we have is it start to this committee.

483
01:06:14.040 --> 01:06:19.740
Jason Sugars: And I don't say, at least to be diminishing of what you guys are doing i'm absolutely on board with just seeing how it grows and builds.

484
01:06:21.030 --> 01:06:27.990
Jason Sugars: I don't know that it's perfectly fair to say, if you don't have solutions don't come because the baseline of forming solutions is knowing the problems.

485
01:06:28.500 --> 01:06:34.590
Jason Sugars: So you're going to have we're going to have a lot of kind of disrupted voices I guess at the first couple months of the committee, but.

486
01:06:34.860 --> 01:06:40.230
Jason Sugars: So be it will just deal with each other's respectfully and patiently and peaceful days report as we possibly can.

487
01:06:40.740 --> 01:06:48.960
Jason Sugars: There are going to be diverse of ideas and opinions, because we are a diverse and inclusive community.

488
01:06:49.500 --> 01:06:59.850
Jason Sugars: We keep using the word community and I I think it's got to be made clear that we're not necessarily all of the same specific Community simply because we live geographically close to one another.

489
01:07:00.630 --> 01:07:10.560
Jason Sugars: I would love to see that we could become a singular Community or more united Community overall from you know I wanted to get into color lines class lines.

490
01:07:11.160 --> 01:07:19.080
Jason Sugars: Who does what for living none of that I hope will be as important, very soon to anyone in the world, but especially specifically in business.

491
01:07:19.650 --> 01:07:28.320
Jason Sugars: I won't go deep into my history, I am I haven't been here I don't think as long as Stan or Naomi i've been here since 67.

492
01:07:29.220 --> 01:07:39.690
Jason Sugars: My mother arrived here at birth and 48 my grandfather got here when he was about 12 or so years old, I guess, with it, with my great grandmother who moved here when she turned 18.

493
01:07:42.600 --> 01:07:45.030
Jason Sugars: I don't know.

494
01:07:47.430 --> 01:07:50.310
Jason Sugars: Of course there's a lot going on on and off the screen here.

495
01:07:50.880 --> 01:08:02.760
Jason Sugars: Someone else mentioned elephants in the room, and one of the elephants in the room is not so much that people are being called things like nimbyism for progressives and liberals, is this as if that some sort of bad name or.

496
01:08:03.600 --> 01:08:13.290
Jason Sugars: You know the truth of the matter is there are a lot of different personalities and lifestyles and people here my dream and hope is that we find a way to kind of.

497
01:08:14.220 --> 01:08:29.220
Jason Sugars: become inner personally connected, as opposed to the push out it's been mentioned that there's been exclusion from old timers here in the neighborhood I in my younger days was much more guilty of that if you ain't from here don't come here mentality.

498
01:08:30.270 --> 01:08:41.010
Jason Sugars: All that time that i've been alive here, people have always come here they've always been welcomed they more or less always been wanted you soak in you get a little bit of a local culture in you and you're part of the rest of the world.

499
01:08:42.600 --> 01:08:51.060
Jason Sugars: we're seeing the opposite we're seeing a lot of people show up with their eight foot tall fence and their hand out in front of them like yo yo come around here i'm here now it's the new Venice.

500
01:08:51.510 --> 01:08:59.430
Jason Sugars: If we're going to find any way to get into it, I think we're going to have to find ways to bring everyone together to get into it together thanks for thanks for let me.

501
01:08:59.820 --> 01:09:00.960
Chie: Thank you Jason.

502
01:09:01.500 --> 01:09:05.550
Chie: cam all right i'm going to combine the next two questions.

503
01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:17.130
Chie: Because they're connected what events have you attended in Venice and what were your likes and dislikes and if you were on the board of those events, what would you have done, to make them better.

504
01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:32.940
Chie: And notice we've had just since i've been here quite a few different events at the beach like lighting events and things of that nature.

505
01:09:34.200 --> 01:09:37.770
Chie: You know, obviously we had the juneteenth event we have.

506
01:09:38.910 --> 01:09:49.050
Chie: You know i'm not sure what else has been here prot you know prior to cove it and that since that are not started back up but um but I know that we have.

507
01:09:49.500 --> 01:09:55.110
Chie: You know, certain things that do occur in Venice at least yearly and I would say, for me.

508
01:09:55.890 --> 01:10:02.940
Chie: Events that I have attended i've been very limited on events per se, because of covert and.

509
01:10:03.330 --> 01:10:09.240
Chie: Because we tend to Camp a lot i'm a bit camper with my children and our school camps, a lot, as a group.

510
01:10:09.480 --> 01:10:17.790
Chie: So when we're not in school, we tend to be campaign, unfortunately, that doesn't lend us to doing things on the weekend, sometimes as far as event wise.

511
01:10:18.120 --> 01:10:29.250
Chie: But I am interested in doing more, and being a part of some of these activities that are going on throughout our Community and creating new events and Venice.

512
01:10:30.510 --> 01:10:39.660
Chie: That we can spread and make happen, I love the mosaics of Venice I love the idea that all the houses are different, you know I love.

513
01:10:40.140 --> 01:10:55.710
Chie: i'm i'm from Chicago and from New Orleans i'm from New York and then la, and so I love the idea of like garden events and just there's so many levels of beautiful things I love the farmers market in Venice I wish it was more days, Jim years.

514
01:10:57.060 --> 01:11:08.250
Chie: You know, and I wish that we had them in other parks as well, so again what events have you attended and what things would you like to change, and you know or that you could help contribute to make those events better.

515
01:11:10.530 --> 01:11:19.200
soledad ursua: And if they're still hands raised, we can we only have three total FC we can combine them till people want to skip around whatever you.

516
01:11:19.200 --> 01:11:30.270
Chie: want array so I haven't seen any hands go up on that one so i'm going to ask the final question we actually have one last question here and it's do you know your slo and what's the relationship with your slo.

517
01:11:30.690 --> 01:11:42.990
Chie: And so, with this final question i'll start my answer what people think about their answers senior lead officers what slo stands for it's your police officer has designated to your area.

518
01:11:43.950 --> 01:11:51.420
Chie: Just a little bit about for me why I felt it was important to know my slo here in Venice, as well as, obviously, when I was in.

519
01:11:52.110 --> 01:12:00.660
Chie: in Santa Monica I I grew up on the South was you know i'm from the south side of Chicago I had a mom who was in an extremely abusive abusive relationship.

520
01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:08.280
Chie: almost lost her life multiple times and being a child of five and my older two sisters did not live in a household with us.

521
01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:16.050
Chie: I had two younger siblings i'm the middle child, the police, played a very unique role in our lives if it wasn't for the police.

522
01:12:16.320 --> 01:12:28.500
Chie: I can guarantee you my mom would not have been here, as long as she was she died when I was 18 of cancer, I come from a family of my grandmother and grandfather having 10 kids living on the South side of Chicago.

523
01:12:29.340 --> 01:12:42.780
Chie: Only one or two got high school degrees very and then repeating of cycles So for me and for some of my cousins especially my siblings it was a really important factor of breaking cycles.

524
01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:57.840
Chie: Going into drug dealing, going into having just that level of trauma but being a child and having trauma and knowing that the only way to keep us safe for the night, quite often was for my stepfather.

525
01:12:58.350 --> 01:13:05.730
Chie: To and also to keep my family safe because one direction, his family will just come with guns, the other, you know direction is.

526
01:13:06.120 --> 01:13:11.850
Chie: Police come and take him out of the household for the night my mom would never press charges being a woman, a victim.

527
01:13:12.450 --> 01:13:29.190
Chie: Victim basically in a repeat offending relationship so being a child, the police, played a huge part in our lives as far as safety, but it was really important for us to know the officers, when she finally got out of that relationship we you know we move to another area.

528
01:13:30.420 --> 01:13:40.620
Chie: The police again played a huge role with with my little brother and little sister, it was always a priority for us to let the police know who we are in the Community, so that.

529
01:13:41.040 --> 01:13:45.300
Chie: That, no matter where they were they didn't feel like they were in.

530
01:13:45.870 --> 01:13:56.280
Chie: In direct danger that they had someone who they can have to protect them, bring them home get them out of certain situations because family wasn't always available in that.

531
01:13:56.670 --> 01:14:08.280
Chie: position and here in Venice, the same priorities occur and just through covert, for example, a lot of my family like I said, is still in Chicago my nephew was shot in the head gun, you know at.

532
01:14:08.730 --> 01:14:21.270
Chie: A carjacking situation police plays a huge role and a lot of crime, unfortunately, but we have to have great relationships and I cannot lump all police officers together.

533
01:14:21.690 --> 01:14:31.110
Chie: And for me, I think that I can only starting my own neighborhoods and I think that it's important for my kids to know who's the senior lead officer in our Community.

534
01:14:31.860 --> 01:14:41.040
Chie: When my son is scooting around to know who he can look at and consider to be safe houses, you know neighbors who he can knock on the door to.

535
01:14:42.090 --> 01:14:49.950
Chie: So that's a huge part for me, of how police have played a role in my life, personally, and I can only base it off with my personal experiences.

536
01:14:50.340 --> 01:14:56.220
Chie: And i'd love to hear from the Community, you know if this is something that you see.

537
01:14:56.610 --> 01:15:06.390
Chie: be an important part and we used to do drive you know right along to I think that that's also really important thing is when you have police officers and you really aren't aware of.

538
01:15:07.170 --> 01:15:20.940
Chie: What they do and breaking those barriers, and you know right along is a huge a huge part of that process so that's my thing I know who my senior lead officer is and.

539
01:15:21.780 --> 01:15:34.620
Chie: I like the idea from my kids to have a relationship and to do in a future volunteer work and things of that nature, so that they can understand all sides of that role and be part of the solution, not the problems so.

540
01:15:36.240 --> 01:15:47.520
Chie: that's me I see robin's hand up i'd love to see some more hands up on just you know, do you know the police in your neighborhood that's really the bigger questions do you know, the police, that are in your neighborhood.

541
01:15:53.580 --> 01:16:01.500
Robin Murez: So, should I speak I to wish there were other hands up and i'm speaking because I can but I would.

542
01:16:02.970 --> 01:16:05.040
Robin Murez: yeah I would love to be hearing from other people too.

543
01:16:05.400 --> 01:16:28.230
Robin Murez: So clients really interesting to hear your experience I actually spent a little time in South Chicago southside um and yeah money contrast is the senior lead officer here, and I also want to say if Lisa redman if you're still on the call I am horrified.

544
01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:45.630
Robin Murez: to know that there are there were many rapes going on in centennial Park, there were stabbings though you know, to say that for anyone to say that they are.

545
01:16:46.770 --> 01:16:54.540
Robin Murez: Against the police, you know call it criminalizing homelessness to me, that is.

546
01:16:55.170 --> 01:17:06.090
Robin Murez: Like the political jargon again that is being used to divide us, and I really feel like we need to be opening our minds and understanding.

547
01:17:06.420 --> 01:17:19.500
Robin Murez: What is really going on, because to me it is not humanitarian to allow people to be living or dying in squalor on our streets in our parks.

548
01:17:20.310 --> 01:17:44.850
Robin Murez: I don't understand how anybody can think that it is humanity humanitarian to allow the lawlessness the the pain and suffering that people who are drug addicted and have mental illness are going through, and we see it right in front of our faces, or the did see that.

549
01:17:46.110 --> 01:17:54.630
Robin Murez: walking through centennial Park, I would go through periodically because my sculptures are there and I would you know just check to see that they weren't being destroyed.

550
01:17:56.130 --> 01:18:09.780
Robin Murez: And you know that the smell of of urine and the stench it was horrendous and I was there when there was a day about two months ago, when there was supposed to be.

551
01:18:10.620 --> 01:18:17.220
Robin Murez: A sanitation crew coming to clean up and apparently Mike bonnen canceled it.

552
01:18:17.730 --> 01:18:33.840
Robin Murez: Well, it was the people camping there that were very disappointed, they had put all the trash together and we're wanting sanitation to come remove it, so we have to keep an open mind to what it means to have there be.

553
01:18:35.400 --> 01:18:41.130
Robin Murez: basic services and police services that keep us safe.

554
01:18:42.330 --> 01:19:01.350
Robin Murez: And and help people who need help um so yeah I I hear you Kai and I hope we can all open our minds to what the truth reality is and not what political jargon, maybe saying thanks.

555
01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:08.010
jim murez: So we had a few other hands go up, I noticed that vicki's hand was up I see lydia's hand is up these are people that haven't spoken yet.

556
01:19:10.980 --> 01:19:12.240
jim murez: lydia you want to go ahead.

557
01:19:14.730 --> 01:19:20.010
Lydia Ponce: Sure, good evening relatives and neighbors I am calling here from.

558
01:19:21.240 --> 01:19:21.690
Lydia Ponce: Venice.

559
01:19:23.010 --> 01:19:30.510
Lydia Ponce: And, first of all, the relationship with the police depends on the independent person, but as a whole group.

560
01:19:31.170 --> 01:19:38.790
Lydia Ponce: I myself personally with the variations of the groups that we became from the G rv and see to what it is now.

561
01:19:39.300 --> 01:19:47.040
Lydia Ponce: We witnessed just two and three black and brown kids hanging out at oakwood park and being harassed, to the point of tears.

562
01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:52.440
Lydia Ponce: Police taking pictures of them when they weren't gang members, they were middle school and high school kids.

563
01:19:52.950 --> 01:20:00.510
Lydia Ponce: We witnessed the police raids that happened at four in the morning and they found no one they obtained No one because they botched the.

564
01:20:01.440 --> 01:20:09.270
Lydia Ponce: Arrest Warrant, that they had when people were either dead released to their homes already and and and working for the city.

565
01:20:09.660 --> 01:20:16.770
Lydia Ponce: or they were still in jail or they didn't Pearl out to anywhere in Venice because they were basically gentrified out of the area.

566
01:20:17.340 --> 01:20:25.830
Lydia Ponce: So our relationship is different, we do have individual relationships with individual police officers who are about the Community.

567
01:20:26.160 --> 01:20:31.950
Lydia Ponce: And when you talk about criminalization it's, not because we have closed minds it's because we have open heart, so we see people.

568
01:20:32.340 --> 01:20:39.090
Lydia Ponce: We see people who need help, none of us want anybody living under any conditions of squalor any conditions of.

569
01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:45.120
Lydia Ponce: The outside world, however, you have to ask yourself why is it that anyone.

570
01:20:45.870 --> 01:20:59.820
Lydia Ponce: wants to live prefers to live dreams and actively is in their right mind to be away from their home, we have youth running away from home across this nation to Venice beach because home is more dangerous.

571
01:21:00.450 --> 01:21:08.460
Lydia Ponce: And when you talk about domestic violence, you have to talk about the stuff that happens, behind closed doors house, people are better at.

572
01:21:08.940 --> 01:21:17.730
Lydia Ponce: closing the door and hiding their ill problems within their family, be it drugs be mental health, be a domestic violence.

573
01:21:18.180 --> 01:21:34.620
Lydia Ponce: And so, when we talk about people, we have to talk about it in the humanitarian way it's not because it's political jargon it's because we have open hearts to these matters of people and I I do remember when when.

574
01:21:35.670 --> 01:21:43.140
Lydia Ponce: bought in at the beginning of the then known as the vc HC unnamed project in the meridian.

575
01:21:43.620 --> 01:21:54.210
Lydia Ponce: You know choice of words, when we were when there was battle of the homeless, well there's no battle what we, what are we at war with poverty, or we were.

576
01:21:55.200 --> 01:22:05.670
Lydia Ponce: At poverty and the systems that cause everything to be a screwed up as it is so I speak with a lot of passion i'm not angry i'm just really.

577
01:22:06.180 --> 01:22:16.080
Lydia Ponce: tired of other people telling us what it's supposed to be when they don't have any recollection of the most recent past, when they had grandmas and empties.

578
01:22:16.530 --> 01:22:35.370
Lydia Ponce: out on the stoop at four in the morning with not even their robes or even a blanket to wrap themselves keep themselves warm and so yeah so let's go ahead and be kind and be compassionate but let's not put your political will all over our brains and all over our hearts, thank you.

579
01:22:36.570 --> 01:22:38.820
jim murez: Thank you Okay, thank you um.

580
01:22:39.990 --> 01:22:42.240
jim murez: Lisa your hand is up go ahead.

581
01:22:45.360 --> 01:22:53.250
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: yeah i'm not going to spend my three minutes calling out Robin mirrors and talking about how awful the homeless, are in centennial park.

582
01:22:54.870 --> 01:23:04.830
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I do agree with one thing that I said, is that you can't lump all people together, but yet they all are there together and they do protect each other as a gang.

583
01:23:05.970 --> 01:23:14.280
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And as a black person I would think that you would feel a lot more considerate about the constant.

584
01:23:14.760 --> 01:23:29.070
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: videos that keep showing up in abusiveness towards black people specifically targeting them as lydia was talking about more black people and people of color stopped unnecessarily in their cars more.

585
01:23:29.160 --> 01:23:31.230
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: On house people in Venice are.

586
01:23:31.290 --> 01:23:44.610
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: stopped and harassed by on house by COPs it this knowing your slo has nothing to do with a this committee, and it really is more of a public safety issue.

587
01:23:45.540 --> 01:23:52.590
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: There needs to be lots and lots of police reform and racial justice within the police lines.

588
01:23:52.950 --> 01:24:05.250
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And yes, we can't do that all through one committee Community here in Venice for the whole lapd but we certainly don't have to kowtow to them and make them are heroes as well, we can hold them accountable.

589
01:24:05.640 --> 01:24:17.760
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: For being better, unlike monique contrast, a lot she's a wonderful person, but she's still a cop and there's still a lot of things I won't tell her or answer to her for and.

590
01:24:18.900 --> 01:24:24.210
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I just this conversation has nothing to do with this committee, in my opinion.

591
01:24:28.950 --> 01:24:31.500
jim murez: Jason has his hand up Jason go ahead.

592
01:24:33.720 --> 01:24:40.320
Jason Sugars: um i'll start with the events I guess i've been to a number of events over the years from surf and skate contest to.

593
01:24:40.710 --> 01:24:52.890
Jason Sugars: dance contest to of course juneteenth I think we got we got to remember that, while it is juneteenth that part of the reason that you don't see as many people from all over the neighborhood at that.

594
01:24:53.790 --> 01:25:01.830
Jason Sugars: neighborhood reunion that happens annually, is because it is primarily a reunion, more so than a juneteenth celebration in and of its own.

595
01:25:02.130 --> 01:25:10.980
Jason Sugars: it's a time in a place where people that were once members of this Community generationally before the police who created the injunctions that forced many of them to come out of there.

596
01:25:11.850 --> 01:25:21.090
Jason Sugars: I do know who are slo is, but only solely in holy because of my involvement on the neighborhood Council growing up in Venice, as a young black and brown individual.

597
01:25:22.740 --> 01:25:31.650
Jason Sugars: I found my safety and and my peace by doing everything I can to never speak to or know any of the officers I didn't know quite a few of them by name.

598
01:25:32.280 --> 01:25:41.880
Jason Sugars: Mostly, because they spent a lot of time pulling us off of the beach and telling us we shouldn't be at the beach during tourists time in the summer, we got to get back over across West Washington.

599
01:25:42.930 --> 01:25:45.780
Jason Sugars: What am I doing standing out here on my porch.

600
01:25:46.680 --> 01:25:53.670
Jason Sugars: Yesterday afternoon or Saturday afternoon at the juneteenth festival there riding up and down and their bicycles trying their very best to look like.

601
01:25:53.910 --> 01:26:01.950
Jason Sugars: neighborhood bicyclists taking photographs or folks I just happened to be sitting in my car my car with my phone, not a lot has changed, and I am not i'm not.

602
01:26:02.610 --> 01:26:11.160
Jason Sugars: going to go long it isn't such a by narrow binary narrow thought process as pro police and anti police.

603
01:26:11.430 --> 01:26:19.620
Jason Sugars: I have nothing against the police I don't even know any criminals, they want to live in a world without policing it, I have a big problem with the way policing is done in America.

604
01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:31.140
Jason Sugars: And I have a big problem with police abuses being against police abuses is not the same as being against the police, nobody can be used that that taken care of and.

605
01:26:31.350 --> 01:26:32.790
Jason Sugars: Then following up after.

606
01:26:32.880 --> 01:26:34.350
Jason Sugars: crimes that are taking place.

607
01:26:35.490 --> 01:26:37.470
Jason Sugars: i'm sorry I forgot time no or.

608
01:26:39.240 --> 01:26:49.380
Jason Sugars: Yes, so nobody wants any criminal activity either among our residents without residents for house or whatever else you want to call them or inside of anyone's homes, nobody wants that crime.

609
01:26:49.620 --> 01:26:56.550
Jason Sugars: No one is saying that the police should not follow up and take care of crime i'm asserting that it would be very nice if that is all they did, and if they did so.

610
01:26:57.480 --> 01:27:12.360
Jason Sugars: fairly and equally among everyone that's never ever been the case in Venice, in the last probably nearly 60 years that i've been here I would love to see it get closer, it seems to be watering further apart as they have a new Community Members that they need to.

611
01:27:13.470 --> 01:27:21.240
Jason Sugars: Protect from those of us who have been here for generations, they think again it starts with our all unifying as people first.

612
01:27:22.050 --> 01:27:31.380
Jason Sugars: So yeah nothing at all against the police it isn't as narrow minded and binary as anyone who is approach with the same or pro villain never i'm sorry.

613
01:27:31.770 --> 01:27:44.190
Jason Sugars: No, I don't know how to pronounce his name as being against the police overall let's see if we can just do this with our hands, open and some handshakes and hugs instead of policing you're not going to be able to arrest or incarcerate your way out of these issues were dealing with.

614
01:27:44.910 --> 01:27:46.290
Chie: Well, said, thank you.

615
01:27:46.530 --> 01:27:47.040
yeah.

616
01:27:49.260 --> 01:27:50.340
jim murez: stand, there are no other.

617
01:27:50.790 --> 01:27:51.810
Chie: hands on does that.

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jim murez: who's this sandwiches.

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Ansar Muhammad: yeah we're getting to that our this was definitely great conversation that kick this committee of I think for me lydia says something that may.

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Ansar Muhammad: brought it back to my conscious state that people was forced out of the homes of four in the morning array took place in one of those persons was my mother, who is now resting in peace, they kicked her door down looking for my nephew and my nephew was not living there.

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Ansar Muhammad: But i'm on the opposite in Chi and didn't in terms of law enforcement.

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Ansar Muhammad: I used to have to run from them Okay, they was considered the boogie man okay welcome from, however, it took me a long time to understand why a relationship with the slow is.

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Important.

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Ansar Muhammad: and

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Ansar Muhammad: are slow as a pastor.

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Ansar Muhammad: He is someone that has some one on one meetings with.

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Ansar Muhammad: i've had some one on one meetings with our Captain enbridge and it took me a long time to come to this reality, there was a time where we would even meet propose leaks, under no circumstances, however, once we started doing this Community organizing work around game reduction youth development.

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Ansar Muhammad: We saw the importance of them being in that conversation, and as a result, we have some decent relationships i'm ex convicts i'm always looking at police kind of sideways However, when we.

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Ansar Muhammad: had an event it wasn't juneteenth about five years ago, was the day of remembrance and I remember, law enforcement came out and record.

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Ansar Muhammad: It if I didn't have at that time, I think it could have been.

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Ansar Muhammad: Williams, the captain if I didn't have.

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Ansar Muhammad: The capital speed down.

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Ansar Muhammad: That those COPs would have came in oakland park and began to harass African American men and women and others.

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Ansar Muhammad: But because I was able to call the captain he called those offices all they left the scene and that's when I realized that whenever we do these events, we must be in contact with them.

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Ansar Muhammad: because their perception when black people come together, like that their perception is something is going on, that could be criminal in nature, and so we always after that incident knew the importance of having some understanding and some type of communication with law enforcement.

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Ansar Muhammad: I think today for me coming out of the lifestyle that I was living, I have a better respect, I have a better respect for them.

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Ansar Muhammad: It makes me feel good to know that I can call the CAP and say captain, can you please not have your offices coming into the park during this time.

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Ansar Muhammad: Because we do have individuals in there that's trying to keep the peace, please can you not you know, make sure that these officers do not start harassing people because they may not be legally park.

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Ansar Muhammad: So I was the person getting the call Center and I was making sure that one of the lead organizers Tommy Walker was receiving those texts but look if that relationship wasn't there.

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Ansar Muhammad: Just because of course not legally Park, do you first to now take it, this car, because this car is that the event.

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Ansar Muhammad: So it was those type of situations that I have another level, respect the law enforcement, but going back to my mother she didn't deserve a good dirt kicked in.

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Ansar Muhammad: You know, in a lawsuit a motor, but here it is again having relationships are called a good friend of mine condi rice so rights attorney.

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Ansar Muhammad: who had a direct a direct line on breath she put the call and she said, one of my guys one of my peacemakers and Venice mother's daughter was kicked in the very next day.

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Ansar Muhammad: Whatever part of the department in Pacific six doors my mother got a brand new door to get it next day, so we again we didn't want relationships so.

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Ansar Muhammad: flow it's important to know, because if you're in an area like oakland or part of that part of Venice and something has happened in and I get phone calls.

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Ansar Muhammad: I want to be an East Texas, the slow or make a phone call to the slave a man, this is happening, so I think those relationships is important, with law enforcement, so I just wanted to put my two cents on that we're at the hour that I think we should be ending.

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Ansar Muhammad: However, i'm open to continue conversation, but one thing we will find out about Mr Mohammed is we're not going to have more three and four hour meetings, not with this committee.

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Ansar Muhammad: we're going to let Jim handle that and we have our meetings we're going to have a set time.

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Ansar Muhammad: we're going to make it very clear on the front end that this is our time for our committee me.

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Ansar Muhammad: we're going to we're going to reduce the time for coming to maybe one to two minutes, we will come back with some legitimate agenda items we want to thank everybody for when and tonight, our committee is open for Members, if you would like to be a part of this committee.

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Ansar Muhammad: Please raise your hand and let us know that you would like to be a part, we will have a structured committee.

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Ansar Muhammad: jam is going to make sure that our committee is structured is not on the world news tonight we just want to hear from everybody so i'm going to thank my culture car.

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Ansar Muhammad: I want to thank solid death was assisting us tonight, I want to thank Jim for assisting us tonight, but more importantly, I want to thank the.

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Ansar Muhammad: 14 I believe we had nearly 14 participants tonight if i'm not mistaken, I want to thank you guys for taking time out of your busy schedules, to be in this conversation.

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Ansar Muhammad: And it gives me more hope because I recently resigned from the DC but this gives me more Oh, that we can have a real conversation man and not to say that we're not having them with the dnc.

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Ansar Muhammad: But I think we can narrow our conversations down to be more specific in nature, as it relates to social justice and equity projects, thank you and that's my final word for tonight as your chair.

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Chie: Thank you.

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jim murez: So formally formally, you have to go down to the part of the agenda, where it says your journey and.

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soledad ursua: The time is 901 hold me share the agenda real fast, and I know.

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jim murez: it's early.

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jim murez: You just need somebody to make the motion and somebody to second at all i'm not sure if even need somebody to second the the the adjournment but, but the Chair needs to say the meetings adjourn announced the time of day.

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Ansar Muhammad: Well i'll make a motion to adjourn the meeting at nine.

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jim murez: But Dave since i'm going to give you a hard time about staying very structured, the Chair is not allowed to make motions.

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Ansar Muhammad: Okay.

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jim murez: Thank you have to get somebody else to do that.

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Chie: Though can Sola dad doing.

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soledad ursua: Well i'm I will make a motion to adjourn at.

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9:02pm.

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jim murez: and

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jim murez: Stay email call there you go.

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Ansar Muhammad: guys have a beautiful night and happy juneteenth.

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Chie: When they.

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Jason Sugars: Can I talk to you guys later.

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soledad ursua: All right, thank you.

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Ansar Muhammad: Thank you so much.