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Jim Robb: Thank you, Jim.

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Jim Robb: And I.

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Jim Robb: Can I can see a sauna.

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Jim Robb: You can see the top half of your head.

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Brian Averill: A gym your as you're muted.

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Jim Robb: Okay.

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Jim Robb: So now we just gotta wait for the crew correct.

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jim murez: For you guys have control over the meeting Now let me just make it so you can share the screen.

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Jim Robb: Alright cool leads in there, Brian.

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Brian Averill: know.

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jim murez: him call me if you have any problems okay.

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Jim Robb: You got it.

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Brian Averill: But Jim I have a question for you, before you split.

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Brian Averill: On the website, it says six to 715 is it going to cut us off at 715 or can we go a little later than that.

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jim murez: You can go up until 730 I have to start the other meeting at 730 so give me like climate can say 755.

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jim murez: No, please the 656.

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jim murez: You mean 727 25 yes that's correct give me five minutes to start their meeting is all i'm saying.

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Brian Averill: Okay gotcha.

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jim murez: And in.

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jim murez: The future in the future if you post your meetings you know are asked for the zoom link a week ahead of time or, if you want to make it a regular date, which is what vicki's to try to get everybody to do.

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jim murez: make it a regular date on the same day, and the same time, every single month and you'll get what's known as a reoccurring link, which will be that it will always be the same zoom link you just have to change the date.

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Jim Robb: Oh yeah we're trying to get.

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Jim Robb: we're trying to get back to that because it was the last Monday of the month, so.

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Jim Robb: yeah try to get back to that.

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jim murez: You can do that again that's fine with me, I mean I think it'd be easier for everybody, then you can post it on the website to.

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Jim Robb: Okay Okay, thank you.

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jim murez: bye bye.

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Jim Robb: All right.

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Jim Robb: hi Kelly hi Kelly, I know well.

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Jim Robb: Okay.

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Jim Robb: We.

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Brian Averill: got Robin um.

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evelynsaro: So I never got.

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evelynsaro: An agenda are they not getting email down or what's the scoop with.

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Jim Robb: That it's on the it's on the it's on the.

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Jim Robb: it's on the calendar, but I did not email it out so.

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Brian Averill: that's always posted on the website to call.

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Jim Robb: But we didn't bail it out, because we were running running.

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Jim Robb: running short on time.

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jim murez: Let me i'm still here, let me just interrupt real quick anybody that signs up to nc some at the.

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jim murez: nc support website, which is what the Department of neighborhood empowerment, if you sign up for notifications from the dnc you will automatically get whatever meeting has been made publicly posted.

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jim murez: That it will send it to you automatically and that's probably the best thing to do, that's when they go live that's the requirement that we have to send it to them and then, once they have it, then they send it out to anybody that's signed up for notification.

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jim murez: Okay.

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jim murez: Thank you yep.

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Jim Robb: Did you put Robin and yet Brian there, she is.

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Brian Averill: opens here see your beautiful background.

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Jim Robb: Let me call Nick.

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Jim Robb: Mark drago says he's on.

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Jim Robb: where you have raise your hand mark.

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Brian Averill: let's see zoom user other mark your zoom user.

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Jim Robb: Okay.

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Jim Robb: We got.

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Jim Robb: It Nick lexi.

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Brian Averill: Mark that's you right.

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Zoom user: yeah i'm right here there yeah.

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Brian Averill: hey buddy hey Mr user.

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Jim Robb: These are go puppet.

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Brian Averill: kind of mosquito puppet.

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evelynsaro: yeah wait, where is the agenda on the website here i'm on the.

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Jim Robb: ocean floor to go to the calendar.

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evelynsaro: Calendar they.

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walk beauty.

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Jim Robb: The calendar should be.

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Jim Robb: Are for that you know I posted on oceanfront walk.

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Jim Robb: No nope.

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evelynsaro: That has just the zoom stuff.

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Jim Robb: Okay, so it's.

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Brian Averill: scroll down from the zoom stuff.

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Jim Robb: So go to the ocean for a walk page and you click that what the the newest one.

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evelynsaro: 626 22 i'm almost more proper 626 20 you mean, where it says upcoming meetings is that what i'm supposed to click on yeah yeah.

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evelynsaro: that's a zoom link to.

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Brian Averill: go down call.

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evelynsaro: scroll down what from.

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Brian Averill: The zoom.

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Brian Averill: zoom link is at the top of the agenda if you scroll down to the second page actual agenda items will appear.

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evelynsaro: Oh meeting agenda there we go alrighty.

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evelynsaro: Thank you.

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evelynsaro: colleen hi.

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Noel Johnston: Mr Peter Peter tried to call he's having problems he's in an area that doesn't have good Internet and cell phone connection, so I don't think he's gonna make it.

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Jim Robb: Well, try to get Nick and lexi then.

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Brian Averill: We are at corn gym just so you know.

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Brian Averill: We can start if you'd like.

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Jim Robb: Okay, so.

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Jim Robb: Nicole get on the meeting, if you can.

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Jim Robb: Did you push the agenda up there.

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Jim Robb: hi.

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Jim Robb: Okay, no, I see I see your name okay hold on brad hopefully you.

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Brian Averill: guys got it.

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Brian Averill: Right let's uh let's get going to crunch.

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Brian Averill: And just so everyone knows, we have a pretty hard out at 720 ish, so we should keep things moving along.

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Jim Robb: sorry about that.

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Jim Robb: Let me.

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Jim Robb: find the agenda.

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Jim Robb: alright.

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Jim Robb: So ready to call this to order.

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Brian Averill: don't go for 605.

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Jim Robb: Okay well roll call is we're calling it an order at 605.

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Jim Robb: we're going to do roll call.

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Jim Robb: which says 7pm but we're going to put that as the 605.

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Brian Averill: mystic.

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Jim Robb: Brian.

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Jim Robb: you're well.

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Jim Robb: they're either is not here, Robin.

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Jim Robb: you're not here March.

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Jim Robb: This here.

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Jim Robb: mark.

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Jim Robb: Where do you go mark.

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Brian Averill: He must have dropped off I don't see him here.

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Jim Robb: All right, colleen.

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Jim Robb: Here let's see.

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Jim Robb: wait for mark to get back on.

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Jim Robb: Do I have approval for the Minutes for the prior BT.

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Brian Averill: you're making emotion i'll second.

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Jim Robb: Okay.

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Jim Robb: Public comments, not as they're not related to the ocean front wall.

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Jim Robb: That would probably be vicki and.

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Jim Robb: Leave.

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Brian Averill: Everybody throw your hand up, if you would like to make a public comment.

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Brian Averill: Going once going twice.

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Brian Averill: looks like no public comments and great.

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Jim Robb: they're wonderful women to work with it.

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Jim Robb: i'm happy to hear well happy happy to hear anything they got to say.

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Brian Averill: To wait wait wait.

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Brian Averill: We do have a public comment.

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Brian Averill: Lisa Lionel is a.

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Brian Averill: Final like to speak to your level.

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Lionel: Yes, good afternoon fellow board members.

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Lionel: Like to make general public comments on i've been to Venice beach several times on walking and bicycling on the ocean front and i'm I like to see hopefully like you know continued bicycling there and the boardwalk I think it's really fun and.

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Lionel: yeah I just want to say, hopefully, in the future we we could expand the bicycle paths and and bicycle safety generally speaking, because I like to.

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Lionel: See the expansion over like another poem that creek Marina del rey to can can stay part when they open the bicycle paths, so I think that was really amazing hopefully connect to Santa Monica will Rogers state parks, a beach oh yeah um yeah, thank you for your time appreciate it.

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Jim Robb: Thank you, oh great idea.

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Jim Robb: Okay.

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Jim Robb: Well, there you go.

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Jim Robb: number five.

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Jim Robb: Brian.

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Brian Averill: So our first motion, so the recent increase in beach camping.

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Brian Averill: This is just for everything tonight is for discussion and possible motion I don't know about the rest of you guys, but here in North Venice the beach camping is sort of cranking up again, a lot of it is near the Rose lot.

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Brian Averill: Around the playground there around the Dudley pagodas that sort of stuff so it's getting pretty messy and there's a lot of campers.

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Brian Averill: So I think we should discuss that.

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Brian Averill: So, I guess, we would go to public comment on that first here before we get into it.

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Brian Averill: don't see any.

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Jim Robb: sure you would like to speak on us and we'd love to hear your antidote if you're there.

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Brian Averill: There you go so.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I good evening, thank you, I didn't want to waste your time you're very limited time tonight with general public comment.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: um yeah the increase in beach camping that's just such a messy subject um.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And you guys all know where i'm coming from you know people got to land somewhere and when they keep getting swept from here and there, they have to go somewhere um and we know that Venice has a history of people camping on the beach, not just in the recent few years.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: When everyone was removed a year ago it was way less than it's ever been but you know I can remember coming up here as a young Gal in the 70s, in the resolve these people camping on the beach then to.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I would just consider if you're going to make any motion that you urge it please for any kind of housing.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: offers and or shelter offers or something, because just to demand that a beach be clean from one house people without providing any kind of housing.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Is that well that's all i'm asking thanks Jim.

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Jim Robb: Since we got you to the how to the placement go for the people that were at the library.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: um I think it went pretty well, I mean it was nice that they scrambled up an offer, except that you know.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Unfortunately, our system isn't designed to have the kind of housing, that is needed for.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Everybody and a lot of the people that didn't accept housing and got left behind, are some people that have critical.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Mental issues and mental deficiencies and there's just first of all, we couldn't even get mental the Department of mental health to come out and then.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Even there if they did come out where would they have gone we just don't have places like that, for those poor souls in our Community so that's that's quickly my fault, but thank you for asking.

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Jim Robb: Thank you.

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Jim Robb: Okay.

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Jim Robb: yeah it was helping other does she want to speak.

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Jim Robb: Okay.

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Brian Averill: i'm keeping someone raises their hand there.

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Brian Averill: Okay, we can move on the board like.

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Jim Robb: Okay let's see what the board, what do you think though well Cooley you deal with it, Brian you deal with this, I mean I deal with it, but you guys see a little bit more than me so let's open it up.

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Brian Averill: Well, if there's board comment just throw your hands up and we'll we'll do it.

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Brian Averill: Noel you refers calling after that.

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Noel Johnston: I Brian I send you a picture of what it looks like today out there in front, at the very northern most and it's right on the Santa Monica border there are 10 tents out there.

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Noel Johnston: least eight of them have been there for over six weeks probably more of I was burned out of my house I just moved back in to my house, two months ago and I haven't.

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Noel Johnston: haven't haven't had my eye on the beach I had my in my house um but it.

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Noel Johnston: This is, this is a messy group the police are out there every Thursday morning, and there are other people out there, trying to clean it up.

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Noel Johnston: it's a I think that the big objection is the noise and the mess as much as as much as anything it's.

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Noel Johnston: Constant cleanup and there's junk all over the place, Brian I sent you a picture of a bunch of junk that was dumped in front of the.

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Noel Johnston: One of the signs that i'm trying to get rid of in front of my house that you can you can see it's just kind of a free for all out there, plus the fact that over by the Rose.

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Noel Johnston: toilets.

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Noel Johnston: Their campers there that have been there for well over a month now also and are very entrenched the group out on the beach has had at least for fires.

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Noel Johnston: Fire department has been out there, that I know, obviously, since i've been back in my house three times I just hate seem to have the fires, they weren't big but one burned down attention, no one was in it.

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Noel Johnston: So it's that's a constant problem is, you know it's camping on the beach should be at a place where there are two camping facilities, where where there are two bathrooms right now, these people are digging latrines.

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Noel Johnston: And you can see them digging.

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Brian Averill: digging latrines on the beach.

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Noel Johnston: We just need to keep working on this.

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Noel Johnston: Is my brain.

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Brian Averill: you're digging.

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Noel Johnston: Yes.

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Brian Averill: one another.

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Noel Johnston: that's that's about that's what i've got to say about homeless situation okay cool.

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Brian Averill: Thank you well calling.

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evelynsaro: So um I just want to is this on the boardwalk or on the beach or both.

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Noel Johnston: This is this is this is on the wall, I would say it's both but what i'm talking about specifically calling the.

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Noel Johnston: Is the big encampment here at the border, which which really has been around for a very long time, but I mean maybe 10 years it's been around.

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Noel Johnston: And they've been better and worse groups there, I mean once we had a bicycle shop and there was a lot of chop chop out there, and there was a lot of violence out there, this group doesn't seem to be violent at all oh they've got their.

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Jim Robb: pockets.

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evelynsaro: I think my thing is.

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evelynsaro: My thing is if it's on the beach and.

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evelynsaro: Then the police lapd needs to be involved.

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evelynsaro: Because there's no supposed to be no camping on the beach.

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evelynsaro: that's good that's all that's already yeah that's already that's already on the books, so if you guys are thinking of emotion that's already on the book so just needs.

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evelynsaro: To Someone needs to be contacting.

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evelynsaro: I don't know even know who the lead officer is now so sorry about that.

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Brian Averill: Let me contrast is our.

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Brian Averill: slo okay okay.

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Jim Robb: What do we do it's the border of Santa Monica I think they're right in that middle word right where her house is so.

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evelynsaro: Once again, if it's but if it's on the sand.

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evelynsaro: Okay, illegal already.

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evelynsaro: there's already a law on the books if it's on the sand and so lapd just needs to be unfortunate and if it's on the border of Santa Monica and Venice and they need to be working with Santa Monica please.

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evelynsaro: But you know I would I just kind of wanted to make that comment, if you guys didn't already know that which i'm sure you all do but keep that in mind when you're if if emotion comes up.

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Brian Averill: cool.

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Jim Robb: We have anybody else Brian.

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Brian Averill: robbins Max.

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Robin Rudisill: yeah I was gonna say almost the same thing as colleen.

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Robin Rudisill: I understood that the police did enforce on the Sam and I thought they were doing that event, you know, last year, when it was at its worst.

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Robin Rudisill: At least they were enforcing on the sense i'm not sure what changed, so we should definitely have one in our motion a whereas you know it is unlawful to Camp law, the sand and lapd has enforced this in the past, because something like that oh.

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Jim Robb: I think that's a good into the conversation why don't you Brian come up with emotion.

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Noel Johnston: we'll do that.

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Brian Averill: motion on demand pump I think it's because I think this is directly the latest is directly connected to the centennial park cleanup because, when that happened.

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Brian Averill: The number of campers out there visually rose, it was obvious that the two are connected so i'm wondering if it's just sort of a temporary thing until lapd sort of gets a handle on it.

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Noel Johnston: Right, the this group at the border is not is not.

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Noel Johnston: Is not been affected, very much if at all, by centennial there my neighbors have it documented over the last six months and there, there are two tents out there that have been there for at least six months.

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Brian Averill: Right yeah I know those guys I just feel like there's even more in the last two weeks well.

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Noel Johnston: There, there were 10 when I moved back into my house seven weeks ago, and there are tend to die, but they're they're different a different 10.

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Noel Johnston: Only only only three of the 10 tents, are the same people that were there when I moved in and two of those people had been there for a very long time, or two attempts have been there for a very long time.

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evelynsaro: And then.

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Noel Johnston: Another group that's over by the.

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Noel Johnston: The toilet.

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Brian Averill: But my concern is that so much time and money and effort and energy was spent last summer sort of clearing the beach and getting folks in the housing that now if we start this trickle of more campers on the beach where we're going to go down a slippery slope again.

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evelynsaro: What that's the thing so CD 11 also should have been contacted with this as well because, like.

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evelynsaro: Lisa said, and everybody knows you know you can't get them off the beach if you can provide something for them so Is there something lined up already has anyone looked into that as they're going to they're going to be options for these people to go to.

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evelynsaro: that are available.

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Jim Robb: We have, so we need to get.

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Jim Robb: Whoever whoever bone in sky is for girl is.

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Jim Robb: To find out if there's any facilities for mental health.

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Brian Averill: Does anyone want to throw out the beginning of emotion.

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Jim Robb: I think I think he just said what you just said about two seconds ago.

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Jim Robb: That the type of the effort it was taken to to to make the boardwalk.

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Jim Robb: accessible to the tourist again these to be you know after the time and effort money it costs, you know that we need to do something like that I think what you just said, the last three seconds, you said we're perfect started out with.

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Noel Johnston: You don't want to start out with our whereas there is increased camping on the North end of the Venice beach, and whereas camping is illegal on the beach the ocean walk committee request that.

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Brian Averill: That sounds good.

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Jim Robb: That sounds perfect.

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Jim Robb: right through.

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Jim Robb: right through a little bit of weight.

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Noel Johnston: I think we need them, they are the number of the of the ruling does anybody colleen do you don't happen to know that do you think it would be great if we had that.

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Brian Averill: Robin.

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Brian Averill: I don't think it's 4118 I think there's a separate one for the beach.

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Brian Averill: robin's not here she would no no well do you have that written down because that was an excellent beginning.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: 63 or.

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Noel Johnston: 6344 6324.

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Noel Johnston: um okay.

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Noel Johnston: Whereas there is increased camping in the north end of the of the Venice beach, and whereas camping is illegal on the beach the ocean front walk.

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Noel Johnston: Citing.

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Noel Johnston: What do we call it.

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Noel Johnston: Will.

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Noel Johnston: say.

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Brian Averill: la la.

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Noel Johnston: la what.

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Brian Averill: Oh hey.

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Noel Johnston: Oh okay and es la MC 6344.

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Noel Johnston: Is.

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Noel Johnston: The oceanfront walk request that campers be removed from the beach in a time by the police in a timely fashion.

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Jim Robb: Or, as to be placed in the help in a.

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Jim Robb: So we put that part.

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Noel Johnston: Now, because because honestly I think that's important, but I think that that that makes this totally contingent on finding housing for them and that's what that's what they.

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Noel Johnston: that's what they are using right now to stay where they are, and I understand that, I mean they say that they haven't fired they they have not found appropriate homes for them.

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Noel Johnston: Appropriate housing.

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Noel Johnston: They don't like the housing that's been con.

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Noel Johnston: For them, and and that has been offered to them.

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Brian Averill: Jim are you proposing.

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Noel Johnston: The police officers bridges and Martin, do you know who they are.

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Noel Johnston: they're they're out there every Thursday morning.

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Brian Averill: Okay, but let's let's Polish our motion up here okay i'll.

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Noel Johnston: Try it again somebody Robin Robin is really good at this where's Robin there, she is.

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Robin Rudisill: Oh wait for a second, so I missed the first part, what do we have so far.

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Noel Johnston: Well, whereas there I don't know if we we will agree on this, but we're whereas there's increased camping on the Northern to the Venice beach, and whereas camping is illegal and then we put in parenthesis la MC 6344.

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Noel Johnston: The oceanfront walk committee request that campers be removed from the beach in a timely and compassionate fashion.

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Robin Rudisill: Be just according to Protocol, and that would cut her you know them having to offer housing.

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Jim Robb: Very.

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Brian Averill: Good some good everybody.

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Jim Robb: We said it best to.

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Noel Johnston: Stick is that what did you put them in there.

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Robin Rudisill: According to the protocol which shouldn't.

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Robin Rudisill: bring up housing I think they have to do that, I think that's a given.

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Jim Robb: That we said this to lapd to.

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Jim Robb: kill someone bonus office.

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Jim Robb: you'll also be sending this to.

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Brian Averill: lapd you should send it to monique than to Steve emmerich we should send it to Mr Barnum.

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evelynsaro: Oh it's there the county and they're just I mean that's what I did I always throw every single one so everybody's made aware whether they need to be in there and not.

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evelynsaro: Ever since we're on the ocean front walk is such a weird fine line.

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Jim Robb: If we can we include Santa Monica PT do we have a way to include them or no.

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Noel Johnston: Oh, you thinking of Ken for him format or Carroll Baker.

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Noel Johnston: Calling.

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Brian Averill: We can we don't have to obsess over the actual names of people as long as we get the departments.

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Brian Averill: Polish it up before we.

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Jim Robb: Okay.

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Robin Rudisill: i'd like.

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Robin Rudisill: i'd like to make the motion that we open up public comment to hear what Lisa has to say might be negative emotion.

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Brian Averill: Go for.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: You um I would say one person's protocol is different from another person.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: From.

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Robin Rudisill: Another person.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: So um if you could say.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: You know.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: and housing is provided you know or offers of housing is provided for all just take it that.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: One at his first step.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: That would make me very happy.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And then, a as a city agency of the dnc i'm pretty sure you can't go to county and definitely you couldn't go to Santa Monica.

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Jim Robb: Okay okay.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: But that's it but that's all i'm asking Thank you.

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Jim Robb: Can we add that.

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Robin Rudisill: I think we can see see them.

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Robin Rudisill: shouldn't be any.

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Robin Rudisill: Copying them on the letter.

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Jim Robb: Or if.

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Robin Rudisill: We just can't we just can't ask them you.

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Brian Averill: know, can you shoot.

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Brian Averill: For housing.

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Noel Johnston: Most capacity.

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Jim Robb: job.

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Jim Robb: The.

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Jim Robb: one hour.

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Jim Robb: Good job everybody good.

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Noel Johnston: Three already for.

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Noel Johnston: You want to go on and we'll come back and vote on this here.

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Jim Robb: Okay let's move to number two.

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Jim Robb: Which is.

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Jim Robb: What number number five.

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Brian Averill: Number six.

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Jim Robb: Number six scooters parking on speedway.

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Jim Robb: Ryan go ahead.

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Brian Averill: I mean i'm sure most of you have seen this they drew the yellow and white lines on speedway, so I think some of the the tourists, maybe are thinking that those are parking spots for the scooters which they are not.

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Jim Robb: Well, I can tell you they're thinking they're parking spaces for everything, because behind Jason hi Jason a talks.

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Jim Robb: Number one Venice boulevard their beach their beach parking behind that and that basically between north and south business I have beach parking right now, so instead of populating the parking lot and pulling behind the the old folks home.

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Jim Robb: and go to the beach.

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Jim Robb: Because there's no signs.

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Brian Averill: Okay, well, the bottom line is their scooters all over speedway now, which is a relatively new problem.

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Brian Averill: I don't think those lines are helping, so we need to figure out what to do, but we do need to take public comment first, if anyone would like to chime in.

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Noel Johnston: i'm.

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Noel Johnston: Brian again I have, I have some pictures there I do want to put them up before public comment or not.

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Brian Averill: I don't think anyone wants to speak on us Okay, so we can we could go right into board comment.

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Brian Averill: way.

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Brian Averill: To see if I could find your pictures at all.

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Noel Johnston: Okay, I have a PowerPoint if you can get if I can.

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Brian Averill: Oh yeah you could you could share your screen.

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Noel Johnston: Try here let's say I want and.

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evelynsaro: So real quick while you're looking at just begin to Jim rob's point you know the spaces and I mentioned this to Jim rob when I saw him a few weeks back a month or so ago people use those as regular parking spaces and there's no science anywhere.

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evelynsaro: On on speedway saying what those are so yeah they look like parking spots if they don't have no parking.

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evelynsaro: Then it's you know.

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evelynsaro: Which kind of also.

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evelynsaro: dovetails into the scooter thing as well.

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Jim Robb: Absolutely, and in front of behind that the window they'll literally park from Windward to we're down to my house to get stuff for the window because they now pick up, so I mean I literally have a drive through on speedway down here for window so.

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Jim Robb: I think we need a WHO who would, who is in charge go ahead, Robin.

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Robin Rudisill: Well, I was just gonna say I know they kick and scream when you asked about putting up signs because they're expensive it takes forever, but what about those stencils things like we had the people do on the clock streets.

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Robin Rudisill: But it's better than nothing, I think it's a much deeper.

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Robin Rudisill: And if they put those on statement every so often and at least you know they can start ticketing their ticketing down here on speedway near Washington.

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Jim Robb: alright.

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Robin Rudisill: Alright parking.

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Jim Robb: Speaking.

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Jim Robb: This right there.

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evelynsaro: hey guys just.

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evelynsaro: Take everybody.

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evelynsaro: To keep their MIC off when they're not talking, because that.

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Noel Johnston: Brian can you can you see my screen.

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Brian Averill: No.

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Noel Johnston: Do you want to see my.

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Noel Johnston: I got a couple of scooter branches.

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Brian Averill: Are you can't share screen, it should be a green button at the bottom.

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Noel Johnston: Yes.

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Brian Averill: It should probably be desktop you'll see desktop.

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Brian Averill: There you go success.

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Noel Johnston: Oh great I don't I don't have it be you do.

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Noel Johnston: Okay, more scooters and April 2022 do you see that one.

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Brian Averill: yeah it looks good.

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Noel Johnston: Okay, that is right behind the ocean front walk townhomes and it stretches that group of scooter stretches from.

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Noel Johnston: One on one down to about 109 and they're they're most mornings, but not all and i'll couple of our owners have flattened.

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Noel Johnston: These these scooters but they're they're also left in front of.

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Noel Johnston: Our garages and there are a couple of.

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Noel Johnston: You can see the scooters it's not just like you look by in that one picture like they were all i'm not all lines there birds and other bikes.

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Noel Johnston: In there, but that this picture that's up right now is a pretty typical picture of what it looks like a good deal of the time.

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Noel Johnston: And then, this shows you the proximity of that area and the yellow line to our garages it's really hard for the people, right in the Center there to get out of their garages with without plowing into.

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Noel Johnston: a scooter.

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Noel Johnston: Right so.

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Noel Johnston: There are also at this at this corner and this isn't part of part of this discussion, but at the corner down here we come off of the Marine apron.

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Noel Johnston: Can you see the pointer.

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Noel Johnston: yeah okay that right around this corner here is the Marina.

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Noel Johnston: it's a Stub that was left when marine was turned into barner that it's now it's a right away for the police and.

409
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Noel Johnston: etc, but in any case, the.

410
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:15.960
Noel Johnston: This area, right here is is very confusing because it's the beginning the beginning of speedway right here, this is where speedway starts.

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Noel Johnston: The City of Santa Monica has put up signs that say, do not enter and the first time about 15 feet of speedway is is true in Santa Monica.

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Noel Johnston: Then it becomes Venice and I don't know if you can see here but there's a big arrow that goes down the street here more obvious in this picture, yes, you can see that the arrow right here the arrow is pointing this way now at the beginning there's an arrow pointing the other way.

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Noel Johnston: Thought you know what to do.

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Brian Averill: If I could interject cut this out of the arrows and this sort of stuff connect with the scooters is there.

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Noel Johnston: Because, because this that there is GEO fencing along here, and one of the reasons that the scooters pile up is because there's GEO fencing i'm glad that the geo fencing is there, I don't understand exactly where it is, but it is there.

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Noel Johnston: So the scooter companies in the middle of the night drop off scooters here.

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Noel Johnston: and pick up scooters and there's also a lot of vandalism along here people stealing the batteries off the, off the scooters that happens, I would say two or three times a week.

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Noel Johnston: was one guy that regularly does it here but, but what what i'm The biggest problem is is there's a lot of traffic around the scooters concerning the scooters leaving the scooters renting the scooters i'm eps just a real pain and it's I think it's dangerous.

419
00:36:43.890 --> 00:36:45.510
Brian Averill: Alright So what should we do folks.

420
00:36:46.110 --> 00:36:49.680
Noel Johnston: I don't know honestly I don't want to make a motion out of this.

421
00:36:50.070 --> 00:36:56.130
Brian Averill: Well, I think, Robin was onto something with the stencils simon's just takes forever it's usually ugly.

422
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Brian Averill: style, do you know tomorrow if they wanted to.

423
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Jim Robb: I think we should contact Well, first of all, I think we should contact the scooter companies again.

424
00:37:08.550 --> 00:37:17.370
Jim Robb: And then I think we should also get online with la do T, which did the scent which did the stencils for us for all the walk streets.

425
00:37:17.820 --> 00:37:29.100
Jim Robb: And I think that we should tell them that this about this situation and that we need stencilled stencilled that you cannot park the scooters there.

426
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Jim Robb: and go back to where it should begin that they need to be docked and placed in the 20 to put the 22 places there that are their load allowed to drop them off.

427
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Jim Robb: I see of dropping the shit off wherever they can again and they're not following the rules.

428
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:59.070
Jim Robb: So I think we have to get back on up and say hey you need to follow the rules, you need to stick, these were where the 22 locations are.

429
00:37:59.610 --> 00:38:09.030
Jim Robb: And these are now stenciled and if you don't if you don't do what you're supposed to do we want the whole speedway GEO fence to put their asses out on Pacific.

430
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Jim Robb: that's what I think.

431
00:38:13.260 --> 00:38:15.270
Brian Averill: I don't know if we could fit all that into emotion, but.

432
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Right.

433
00:38:17.310 --> 00:38:27.960
Brian Averill: I mean, as far as US dealing with the city agencies, we can certainly ask for know scooter parking stencils from upon and transportation deputies.

434
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Jim Robb: la keep the led ot I think the ones that are sprayed those.

435
00:38:33.300 --> 00:38:39.240
Brian Averill: I know that Eric bruins was involved in the ones on the walk streets so.

436
00:38:39.300 --> 00:38:40.020
Jim Robb: Okay, great.

437
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Brian Averill: If we do make a motion, he should got.

438
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:42.660
Okay.

439
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Jim Robb: So what do you think.

440
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Jim Robb: They should read man.

441
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Brian Averill: At least a certain to your hand.

442
00:39:00.030 --> 00:39:10.170
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: i'm trying hard not to give credit to tiptoe or miras, but they do manage to get some signage and things done with their connections through do T.

443
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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: In the parking transportation committee.

444
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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Okay.

445
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Jim Robb: Just good all right.

446
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Jim Robb: Well, if we get emotionally developed we'll do it well we'll do a as we can we vote on our we should we do this, and that do a joint me Robert will do a meeting with me whenever we want so.

447
00:39:30.180 --> 00:39:32.610
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Okay, just throwing that out there Okay, thank you.

448
00:39:34.020 --> 00:39:46.050
Brian Averill: I think it's perfectly reasonable to requests know scooters penciling in the new lanes that they just painted they didn't foresee this happening or did I and it's it is happening so let's try to fix that at least.

449
00:39:46.380 --> 00:39:59.850
Jim Robb: We know what their game plan with with these and the other side, where everybody's parky because it's going to get worse it's not going to get better with like behind co needs houses behind the one Venice boulevard.

450
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Jim Robb: I mean it's good people are going to be parking instead of the parking lots.

451
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:06.030
Brian Averill: that's why we're asking for stencils.

452
00:40:06.600 --> 00:40:18.540
evelynsaro: yeah and I think it needs to as much as I hate to say it, but it should be specific, you say no parking the scooters going to park there, but if he does say no scooter parking the cars are going to park there, so it means to say.

453
00:40:21.930 --> 00:40:30.600
evelynsaro: Well, I mean no parking whatsoever, or no scooter or a car park, I mean it needs to because you're going to get people there, say, well, you doesn't say this, it just says this.

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Brian Averill: Vehicle vehicle.

455
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evelynsaro: If they consider a scooter vehicle yeah.

456
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Brian Averill: We don't want to read a paragraph on the pavement here.

457
00:40:40.290 --> 00:40:43.620
evelynsaro: No, no, I know I am just I am just saying, because.

458
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evelynsaro: I made that comment, the other day to somebody to try to tell them not to park because they were also going to block someone's garage and that was the first thing they said they said well.

459
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evelynsaro: What parking is here, and I said well there's no parking here so well done says nothing I was like oh.

460
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Whatever.

461
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Noel Johnston: I.

462
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Noel Johnston: Have I have, I have a question.

463
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Noel Johnston: I want you to say stem selling do you mean you mean these these thick lines, like the yellow line that's around the scooters they're behind our building.

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Brian Averill: Know i'll walk straight here, for instance on paloma it's literally the circle, with the scooter with the line through it.

465
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Brian Averill: Oh, you can't read scooters on the Wall Street and it's painted on on the ground.

466
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Noel Johnston: Okay, because somebody has I don't know, maybe you tell I do to put those yellow line down most of speedway whether.

467
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Jim Robb: it's got all the speedway Noel yeah isn't all the way to robin's have from your.

468
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Jim Robb: house Robin tell.

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Noel Johnston: Now that's that's what i'm saying I personally think this is wrong.

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evelynsaro: yeah those those stencils would be great if there's already, one that has a scooter and then it just there just needs to be boards to so cars don't also take advantage of it as well.

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Brian Averill: So why don't we.

472
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Noel Johnston: fell in line for what are they for.

473
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Jim Robb: that's what I was trying to get to who who approved them in who do we ask what their what their.

474
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Jim Robb: I, like him, because it makes the one way look more like a weird way, so I don't have them going up and down broadway on speedway which has happened, less it's they did that, but I just don't know what they're for and why they did it.

475
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I was.

476
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Brian Averill: There was to emphasize the fact that it's one way and the white line was supposed to be sort of the scooter lane for people actually writing them yes and it's just causing more confusion than anything.

477
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Jim Robb: So who do you who put who did that who do we need to talk to you.

478
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Brian Averill: Again CD 11 was definitely involved in that Alec and Eric.

479
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Jim Robb: So okay So what do we want to do emotion, just for the stencils or do we want to do emotion include.

480
00:42:57.270 --> 00:43:01.170
Jim Robb: car parking and have CD 11 tell us what's going on.

481
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evelynsaro: Why.

482
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evelynsaro: aren't you write this whereas.

483
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evelynsaro: They are existing.

484
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evelynsaro: yellow lines.

485
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evelynsaro: As well as white lines on either side, I mean I don't even know what they're called.

486
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Brian Averill: lanes, maybe.

487
00:43:22.110 --> 00:43:25.740
evelynsaro: Those aren't lanes because they're solid lines that's what's confusing.

488
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evelynsaro: But maybe, whereas, whereas the recent painting on speedway.

489
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evelynsaro: is causing confusion.

490
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Jim Robb: yeah.

491
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Jim Robb: The first one.

492
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Jim Robb: Had where.

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evelynsaro: We, we should have.

494
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evelynsaro: No scooter emblem or insignia or logo whatever you want to call it.

495
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Jim Robb: Whereas scooters and cars or parking here and increase confusion and.

496
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:58.770
evelynsaro: walking people's blocking people's access to their.

497
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evelynsaro: Homes homes.

498
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Noel Johnston: and businesses.

499
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Jim Robb: yep we suggest to come up with a solution and the be tied peach use the pre existing painted street art to emphasize no scooter party.

500
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evelynsaro: And no car parking.

501
00:44:21.030 --> 00:44:22.350
Noel Johnston: that's really isn't.

502
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Jim Robb: Okay right.

503
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Noel Johnston: on that one.

504
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Robin Rudisill: I think i've got it I think i've got it you want me to read it.

505
00:44:32.520 --> 00:44:32.790
Please.

506
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Robin Rudisill: I think.

507
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Robin Rudisill: Whereas the recent line painting on speedway is causing confusion, whereas scooters and cars are parking in the public right of way on speedway alley and blocking access to homes and businesses.

508
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Robin Rudisill: Therefore dnc request the Department of Transportation to immediately provide signs, or at least stencils to make clear no parking of autos or scooters is allowed on.

509
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:04.200
Robin Rudisill: Tell moved.

510
00:45:05.550 --> 00:45:05.670
Brian Averill: On.

511
00:45:07.590 --> 00:45:08.040
Brian Averill: A second.

512
00:45:09.780 --> 00:45:12.480
Jim Robb: let's take a vote on that one okay I love it.

513
00:45:13.230 --> 00:45:14.100
Jim Robb: Thank you, let me fly.

514
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:15.780
Here we go.

515
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:18.330
Noel Johnston: Are we are we voting.

516
00:45:18.900 --> 00:45:29.610
Jim Robb: Yes, yes okay Robin Robin did the beta motion and Brian second at it, we will do we do roll call or will do 30.

517
00:45:30.030 --> 00:45:31.530
Nick Antonicello: Ryan public comment.

518
00:45:32.430 --> 00:45:33.960
Jim Robb: Public comment any public comment.

519
00:45:36.300 --> 00:45:40.080
Brian Averill: Going once going twice gone.

520
00:45:40.170 --> 00:45:42.750
Jim Robb: that's perfect Ryan, how are you oh.

521
00:45:43.140 --> 00:45:45.240
Jim Robb: Yes, no well how do you go.

522
00:45:45.540 --> 00:45:47.460
Jim Robb: Yes, Robin, how do you.

523
00:45:48.120 --> 00:45:49.890
Jim Robb: Ask Nick can evoke.

524
00:45:50.160 --> 00:45:52.590
Jim Robb: yeah mark rog are you on.

525
00:45:56.220 --> 00:45:57.180
Jim Robb: coding and how do you vote.

526
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:00.570
evelynsaro: Yes.

527
00:46:01.260 --> 00:46:02.310
Jim Robb: lexi, how do you oh.

528
00:46:03.600 --> 00:46:04.230
Lexie: Yes.

529
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:06.480
Jim Robb: Beautiful jeb Bush yes.

530
00:46:08.070 --> 00:46:08.730
Jim Robb: There we go.

531
00:46:10.230 --> 00:46:10.680
Brian Averill: Do we want.

532
00:46:11.910 --> 00:46:13.440
Brian Averill: We want to go back to the previous.

533
00:46:13.860 --> 00:46:14.190
yeah.

534
00:46:15.900 --> 00:46:16.920
Noel Johnston: Try reading this.

535
00:46:17.010 --> 00:46:17.760
Brian Averill: yeah yes.

536
00:46:17.940 --> 00:46:18.630
Brian Averill: let's do a photo.

537
00:46:20.340 --> 00:46:31.680
Noel Johnston: Where there is increased camping on the North end of Venice beach, and whereas camping is illegal on the beach parenthesis la MC 6344 on parenthesis.

538
00:46:32.220 --> 00:46:43.590
Noel Johnston: The ocean front walk committee request that these campers be removed in a compassionate fashion, according to normal protocol, which would include an offer of housing and or services.

539
00:46:44.310 --> 00:46:47.850
Brian Averill: beautiful but we'll just change the ocean funnel up to the nc.

540
00:46:48.030 --> 00:46:49.200
Noel Johnston: To the answer okay.

541
00:46:49.950 --> 00:46:50.880
Robin Rudisill: I second that.

542
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Okay.

543
00:46:54.120 --> 00:46:56.190
Brian Averill: Public comment lisa's got some public comment on that.

544
00:46:57.570 --> 00:46:58.380
Brian Averill: There you go so.

545
00:46:59.580 --> 00:47:01.890
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: You want to be so specific to just say north.

546
00:47:04.200 --> 00:47:05.010
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: that's how I.

547
00:47:05.550 --> 00:47:07.230
Brian Averill: that's a good point well I guess.

548
00:47:09.150 --> 00:47:09.390
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: yeah.

549
00:47:10.200 --> 00:47:11.190
Brian Averill: Leave it at the beach.

550
00:47:13.170 --> 00:47:13.830
Brian Averill: Thank you Lisa.

551
00:47:17.700 --> 00:47:25.530
Jim Robb: Well done well motion Robin seconded have the common has been made that's topher vote.

552
00:47:30.900 --> 00:47:31.740
Nick Antonicello: About boards.

553
00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:34.110
Jim Robb: Word comment.

554
00:47:35.220 --> 00:47:38.760
Brian Averill: I thought we did Nick I feel like you have board comment yeah.

555
00:47:41.580 --> 00:47:44.040
Nick Antonicello: This resolution almost everyone calls it.

556
00:47:45.060 --> 00:47:47.190
Nick Antonicello: Is that it's it's self defeating.

557
00:47:48.690 --> 00:48:02.940
Nick Antonicello: you're saying that you want the people move from the beach, at the same time you have this language of compassion and where are they going to go we're an advisory board that's not our role, our role is not to where they go our goal is to have a specific.

558
00:48:04.710 --> 00:48:10.500
Nick Antonicello: specific recommendation, you want to make to the vendors neighborhood Council in the neighborhood Councils and makes it to the proper authority.

559
00:48:11.040 --> 00:48:22.650
Nick Antonicello: Everybody knows bone checked out he's not doing anything you put language in here that they have to go somewhere else it's self defeating you might as well, not even put the motion to the floor.

560
00:48:23.460 --> 00:48:29.190
Nick Antonicello: You can have both you can't want to be both things to everybody, we have one tablet on it.

561
00:48:29.700 --> 00:48:43.770
Nick Antonicello: i'm gonna finish we have sort of comment and you want to pacify public comment at the end of the day, if you want this motion to have T shirts just simply say, one is people removed because it's illegal, end of story.

562
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:45.240
Nick Antonicello: Okay.

563
00:48:46.410 --> 00:48:51.540
Jim Robb: All right now let's get the other public any other the comment breadboard.

564
00:48:52.020 --> 00:48:53.400
Noel Johnston: yeah yeah that's cool I wanna.

565
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Noel Johnston: I just want to say that that I know what nick's talking about and I mentioned it briefly myself, however, I think that all we have said here is an offer of housing and or services, I don't think we we made any promises.

566
00:49:07.380 --> 00:49:09.060
Nick Antonicello: We don't have the ability to even.

567
00:49:09.180 --> 00:49:13.170
Noel Johnston: offer I don't I don't think this removes all of its chief.

568
00:49:14.220 --> 00:49:24.030
Nick Antonicello: they've heard it all, because we can offer them anything we're not assuming service provider we're an advisory volunteer board that's what we are.

569
00:49:26.040 --> 00:49:26.790
Jim Robb: All right, colleen.

570
00:49:27.600 --> 00:49:28.080
yeah.

571
00:49:29.160 --> 00:49:33.600
evelynsaro: So the thing is about saying this Nick, which is why I brought it up was because.

572
00:49:34.710 --> 00:49:40.890
evelynsaro: Yes, everybody knows it but everybody doesn't ever want to acknowledge that's what's supposed to happen and.

573
00:49:43.950 --> 00:49:47.580
evelynsaro: And we're advising that they need to find them a place to go.

574
00:49:49.260 --> 00:49:50.850
evelynsaro: As far as an advisory board goes.

575
00:49:51.300 --> 00:49:55.800
Nick Antonicello: You got a councilman now for 10 years wasn't built the stitcher house.

576
00:49:56.820 --> 00:50:03.510
Nick Antonicello: Okay, and here he is in the last month of this term of office you think this is going to move in one way or the other.

577
00:50:04.410 --> 00:50:06.660
Jim Robb: We don't even have we need the lapd.

578
00:50:07.830 --> 00:50:08.940
Brian Averill: All we can do is ask me.

579
00:50:10.020 --> 00:50:11.040
Jim Robb: All right, let's do a bow.

580
00:50:12.810 --> 00:50:14.400
Jim Robb: i'll go with you first Nick.

581
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:17.220
Jim Robb: No okay Ryan.

582
00:50:18.180 --> 00:50:20.160
Jim Robb: Yes, well.

583
00:50:20.430 --> 00:50:21.030
Yes.

584
00:50:22.170 --> 00:50:22.680
Jim Robb: Robin.

585
00:50:23.040 --> 00:50:23.580
Yes.

586
00:50:25.470 --> 00:50:26.220
Jim Robb: Colin coney.

587
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:28.860
evelynsaro: Yes, lexi.

588
00:50:31.680 --> 00:50:32.640
Lexie: Can I abstain.

589
00:50:33.300 --> 00:50:33.930
Jim Robb: yeah sure.

590
00:50:36.120 --> 00:50:37.950
Jim Robb: And i'll say yes started.

591
00:50:39.030 --> 00:50:40.620
Jim Robb: Just try to get it done here we go.

592
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:49.260
Jim Robb: All right number $7 they came out it outdated signage so.

593
00:50:50.070 --> 00:50:50.250
I.

594
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Jim Robb: know I ended cooling speak on this since she had a lot to do with ballers.

595
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Brian Averill: Okay well Noel sort of inspired this fun and I know Kelly knows a lot about it, too, so let them.

596
00:51:02.460 --> 00:51:07.590
Noel Johnston: Let me find my presentation my PowerPoint here all right well.

597
00:51:08.970 --> 00:51:10.440
Noel Johnston: Listen ocean.

598
00:51:12.090 --> 00:51:12.750
Noel Johnston: haha.

599
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:16.110
Noel Johnston: Can you still get my screen.

600
00:51:16.680 --> 00:51:17.340
Brian Averill: But you need to.

601
00:51:17.370 --> 00:51:19.290
Noel Johnston: show you that again okay.

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Brian Averill: green button and then desktop.

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Brian Averill: We are we are down to about a half hour, just so everyone knows.

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Jim Robb: what's gonna get a dead Brian.

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what's good.

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what's this.

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Noel Johnston: well.

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Nick Antonicello: For future meetings you want to put a time limit and all these we.

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Nick Antonicello: want to.

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Noel Johnston: about that.

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Noel Johnston: Okay ah, I am referring to a couple of specific signs these two are outrageous I have called the number on the orange sign several times today, I finally I.

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Noel Johnston: got somebody to call me back from this number and they gave me and yet another number.

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Noel Johnston: I have tried calling the department of public works and couldn't find a person to talk to, as you can see these things have been expired since 828 21 they're collecting graffiti on the back, also a lot of trash, as you can see um.

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Noel Johnston: they're terrific eyesore and they're huge and they never should have been put up in the first place, and in addition I think they are actually in Santa Monica which is interesting.

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Noel Johnston: I tried to set my tells me they're in Santa Monica but they're not taking them down because la put the box okay.

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Noel Johnston: I want to also point out to you that an awful lot of the signage that is on the boardwalk not just here but on the boardwalk looks like this.

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Noel Johnston: it's all messed up this poll over here to the left of the screen and I didn't really do a very good job, but that's got a whole bunch of signs, I asked my own owners.

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Noel Johnston: In a homeowner's association meeting or nine of us in a 10 unit condominium if they know what that Paul said, now that pole has been there for over 10 years.

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Noel Johnston: And the only sign that to have the owners remembered was the top, one which is the evacuation side and nobody nobody knew anything couldn't say anything about any of the other signs what was on them what wasn't on them, and they were unaware of this sign altogether.

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Noel Johnston: So I thought that was sort of interesting that people are either in Europe to these are they can't read them anyway, I mean this time I hear is unreadable because it's been so stickered over that just a mess.

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Jim Robb: yeah okay i'd like it.

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Noel Johnston: Might my point there is that I would like, I would like these two signs in particular to come down and I don't understand i've written the bottoms Office about it i've written to the department extreme services about it la do T about it.

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Noel Johnston: be able to get them removed okay.

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Jim Robb: awesome so Brian well.

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Brian Averill: Yes.

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Jim Robb: We want to just write a motion about the science for the bollards.

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Noel Johnston: You want to talk about you want to talk about the ball is just for a second.

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Brian Averill: Well yeah.

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Brian Averill: we're gonna do emotion about the signage.

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Noel Johnston: wonder the scientific.

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Brian Averill: I can't cram it all together.

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Nick Antonicello: You don't need a motion to take down expired son or you can do is direct president of the dnc send a letter to the appropriate Agency to have these things removed.

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Nick Antonicello: You don't even know.

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Noel Johnston: Like I can't get anybody.

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Nick Antonicello: Well, but the point i'm trying to make you know well, is that Jim is the dnc President and he would ascend an official letter from the dnc saying we have unexpired signs down here advantage when he had been taken down that's going to go.

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Nick Antonicello: In my experience, a lot further than us sending an innocuous motion to the dnc and then the dnc having to vote in the motion just have love talk to Jim your eyes and say look, can you contact the appropriate agency and get the signs down in the story okay.

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Noel Johnston: Okay.

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Jim Robb: I like that.

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That.

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Jim Robb: Okay, so we will all help them help facilitate that Brian will do so The next question is what was the problem with the ballers and is it decided about the bollards or the bollards himself.

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well.

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Noel Johnston: Okay, can you see this picture of a baller.

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Noel Johnston: Yes, okay these.

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Noel Johnston: I am assuming that these models have been put up more in in.

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Noel Johnston: The, these are the only ones that have been put up their own likeness on the boardwalk Am I right.

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Jim Robb: All the way now.

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Noel Johnston: they're supposed to be retractable Oh well, we were we are Homeowners association was told that we would be given.

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Noel Johnston: a lesson in how to operate these bullets and other ones on the North end of the building there for our manually operated I I honestly think that I can operate those and i'm not going to tell you how I know I can do that, but I have tried and I seem to be able to operate the ones.

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Noel Johnston: On this end, right here, I can't operate their hydraulic and they're apparently operated from from one of these two cabinets.

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Jim Robb: Those were all.

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Noel Johnston: Those were all.

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Noel Johnston: Really kind of our Homeowners association is pretty pissed off about because we had a.

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Noel Johnston: Nice planning here and they just stuck those in there, without asking this or talking or anything.

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Jim Robb: They just want us to say that's to save people's lives so that's.

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Jim Robb: that's what those are therefore.

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Noel Johnston: I don't believe it for a hot second but fine i'm.

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Jim Robb: going.

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Noel Johnston: We should we should know how to operate those there, there should be designated people that live on the on the boardwalk that know how to operate these things that fireman have asked me if I know how to operate them, I had a fire in my house.

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Noel Johnston: Oh, this would.

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Noel Johnston: This would prevent fire engines from getting to my house.

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Jim Robb: Absolutely that's Kelly lives down there and it would prevent that so Kelly You helped put this motion through with your tenure, could you tell us what you think it when it's supposed to be done, and if you know anything more about it.

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evelynsaro: Well, I mean years ago.

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evelynsaro: When Taylor was talking to us about it um.

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evelynsaro: There were only retractable and the fire department and lapd are should be only are the only ones supposedly that can do that.

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evelynsaro: And then the ones, and then there's ones that aren't retractable that are better permanent that you can't do anything with.

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evelynsaro: So I don't know about that seems logical, because I know that there was going to be power stations nerem from what Taylor had said.

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evelynsaro: So God damn I don't know what to tell you I mean I it's great that Noel that they're having Homeowners but again that's a that's a responsibility that the city should not be putting on Homeowners.

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Brian Averill: but rather something.

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evelynsaro: You know that if something happens and you can't take those down Noel and they don't get to your House, then the finger comes back to you, and it shouldn't be coming back to you that should be there on the county the city or parks and recs so I don't know what's going on with that.

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Jim Robb: Robin.

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Robin Rudisill: Do you have anything yeah I was just gonna add I don't know if these can be folded in but I don't see why we need this the ugly signs the big end sign and whatever the other one else's.

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Robin Rudisill: As well as the bollards I mean all we need is the ballers and they think they can take down, you know that's a blight on our beautiful ocean.

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Robin Rudisill: And then the other thing is down here at Washington people can get right on and oceanfront walk there's no ball there's no anything I.

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want.

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Jim Robb: there's what's in front of your House down from your House but they're not the, I would like to know where they're going to activate it because they're all in except for a few.

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Jim Robb: I just need to know when they're good at, because you gotta break that the edge of where were terrorists was they they put those in that's where they were in front of.

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Jim Robb: Your bear.

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Robin Rudisill: I think.

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Jim Robb: Like so.

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Robin Rudisill: You can pull up like you're going to go through the turnstile to go into the parking lot and then just turn right and get right on the ocean for a walk I think yeah.

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Jim Robb: Well, there should be ones in front of their bikes but.

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Nick Antonicello: you're right.

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Jim Robb: yeah, so we need to find that we need to find out Nick and tell me how we could do this, or do we need a motion to find out what they're going to be.

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Nick Antonicello: You don't need emotion, I would just what I would do is i'd invite someone from the La fire department to our next meeting.

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Jim Robb: Okay.

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Nick Antonicello: I mean, probably the best thing and then Noel can ask whatever questions you have, for your followers and maybe they would give her a key I don't know I don't know all the specifics of it.

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Nick Antonicello: But, again, I don't think you need emotion I just think I reached out to La invite the meeting and have them address the ball.

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Jim Robb: got it I think that's a great idea what does everybody else think.

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evelynsaro: You should include CD 11 to whoever that person is.

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evelynsaro: Because they also are going to know.

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evelynsaro: lapd if the fire department comes back and says we know nothing about that.

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evelynsaro: 11 ship.

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Noel Johnston: I wanna I want to say that our firemen asked me how to operate them.

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Noel Johnston: Okay.

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Nick Antonicello: So I think, well, it goes to the notion of how many how many employees to take to screw in a lightbulb.

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yeah.

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Nick Antonicello: This is what you deal with.

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Jim Robb: We can get Ahold of the guy that came down with all those fires of the black gentleman I can't remember his name.

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Jim Robb: But he could definitely help us out.

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Nick Antonicello: So dad knows who that person is you could probably get him to come to me okay.

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Noel Johnston: One other thing if we do get that meeting together, I think we also want to talk to them about maintenance, because in that picture that I just had up a second ago, you can see how sand has gotten into those and because.

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Noel Johnston: I did figure out how to operate them on my North and.

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Noel Johnston: I pulled what up and if we have another couple of sandstorms they're going to be an operative.

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Noel Johnston: They will operate them.

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Nick Antonicello: Your dream one point I wanted to make about the sun is everyone seems to be concerned about the sign.

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Nick Antonicello: When technicality then she'll appeals office handle all those new science down to be simple, we had that meeting and and all the signage was empty does that work on the concrete there that when the bike path right foot and allows us where the five paths that.

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Nick Antonicello: Order there.

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Nick Antonicello: And that woman who was sheila fuels, he was the one thing.

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Nick Antonicello: I mean.

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Nick Antonicello: I don't know i'm just i'm just bringing it up.

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Jim Robb: Okay, well, I think I think this motion, Brian are you still here not.

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Brian Averill: Yet.

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Jim Robb: Okay.

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Brian Averill: What is this emotion, or we can.

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Jim Robb: I think I think we're going to push the most well I think we're going to push the motion on the bollards.

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Jim Robb: To the next meeting and get the fire department and anybody else we need to know all the all the things so that we all know, what's going on with it, I don't think it needs to be emotion.

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Jim Robb: I think, is, I think, as far as the signs are concerned, I think that that's the bigger picture of what I was trying to put together.

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Jim Robb: which we will talk about briefly, which is the Venice Community plan as it pertains to the boardwalk and the Olympics and how we as a group, the to push for some sort of urban planner slash.

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Jim Robb: park planner and soda for the parks and REC to help us plan, what we want to do.

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Jim Robb: Pre Olympics to change our boardwalk to make it more relevant for the Olympics and clear out these dirt hills that have grass on it that we no longer kid water and all it is, is a Sandberg and try to see what we could do so, I think I think there needs to be a.

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Jim Robb: comprehensive plan for the parks and recs part of the boardwalk all the way down the boardwalk so that we could make it look presentable for what's going to be happening in the years to come.

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Nick Antonicello: But the point of water, and I do is jump into Venice neighborhood Council meeting about four months ago.

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Nick Antonicello: They are no events events.

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Nick Antonicello: For the 2028 Olympics, I told that to Jim you're, as I mentioned, did I put emotion again that emotion was never heard.

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Nick Antonicello: You know, you want to talk about putting some kind of task force together from this to me to address the Olympics that might be a good idea.

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Nick Antonicello: But right now the only the only events for the 28 Olympics are in Santa Monica and along from a from a water beach perspective.

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Jim Robb: Okay.

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Jim Robb: You get absolutely and I would love to figure out how we could switch it from Santa Monica I don't know if that's possible but.

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Jim Robb: We will we'll try that but so that was just my idea I think trying to come up with a concept, whether it's the Olympics or not, for how shitty the the grassy areas of the of the ocean for a walk like.

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Jim Robb: that we need to figure out something and have somebody help us design, what we have to have for the future.

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Brian Averill: guys guys circling back to the baller agenda item that we're on, we agreed to sort of learn a little bit more about this, and maybe invite some folks to the next meeting.

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Jim Robb: Right okay.

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Brian Averill: So are we closing that item and moving on.

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Jim Robb: Yes, sir.

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Brian Averill: Excellent number eight.

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Jim Robb: rock sidewalk in Washington boulevard.

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Brian Averill: I think this was from Robin Robin if you want to expand on this a little.

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Robin Rudisill: yeah we're down here on Washington, the Pier House has built a.

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Robin Rudisill: I don't know some kind of lattice covering over the sidewalk.

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Robin Rudisill: Between the restaurant and the end of the sidewalk and it was shocking when I first saw it looks like they've just.

741
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Robin Rudisill: privatized the sidewalk you can still walk through there but there's hardly any room, most of the time when they're working and people are sitting in chairs and you know busboys are going around.

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Robin Rudisill: You know there's not even three feet wide for the handicapped and they and they made this little area out in the street, where the bikes actually normally go that people think they have to go around the normal side.

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Robin Rudisill: And it's tremendous it's shocking can't do that, I mean, I know that that permission to to serve people out in the street in the parking area, but this is not what they're doing they're taking advantage and trying to make the restaurant bigger and taken over the sidewalk so for.

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Jim Robb: You guys, to see that it's the same borders.

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Jim Robb: To save owners of the whaler right at least you could at least you can walk through the sidewalk in front of the whaler.

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Jim Robb: Right oh I, I completely agree with you, as far as the yeah that should be allowed.

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Nick Antonicello: It appears that the public access, no longer exists on the sidewalk and then to compound that the the seating they had in the street they've taken down.

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Nick Antonicello: yeah So there you have this as Robin said you had this overhead so if you're walking if he if you're in front of the knicks liquor and you're walking towards the beach you think you can't walk on the sidewalk anymore.

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Nick Antonicello: Right looks to be appears to be part of the restaurant.

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Jim Robb: Well, I can tell you.

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evelynsaro: Have have Robin have you talked to a monique contrasts your the assault solo.

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Robin Rudisill: know I tried talking to some of the you know the owners and they didn't give a shit.

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evelynsaro: Okay, just because that you know it was kind of a similar here at our building except here at our apartment complex management was kind of on my side, where.

754
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evelynsaro: Some residents decided they were just going to take the boardwalk and make it their front yard.

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and

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evelynsaro: And we had the we had lapd.

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evelynsaro: and

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evelynsaro: Also, someone from CD 11 because they were trying to do stuff and there was things they couldn't do, but this is different because it was I mean they finally got it down but it took a while.

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evelynsaro: So if the complaint goes to lapd and that literally is not legal, they should be able to start ticketing them, which may be different for an actual business business, you know ours was a.

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evelynsaro: Business slash residential and that's where they got hooked up on, and they kind of got their hands tied, for legal reasons.

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evelynsaro: But i'm.

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Nick Antonicello: Really, the.

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evelynsaro: Only people posted on it.

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Nick Antonicello: Like we won't.

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Nick Antonicello: put any kind of application before you do the work that they did.

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Robin Rudisill: Now yeah okay.

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Brian Averill: Now, Nick I think alfresco program started a lot of restaurants jumped on it, and now they're just sort of pushing it to see.

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Nick Antonicello: How far they can go into much the overhang, the problem is, is that it's the access to public access from there to the beach, and the fact that they remove the out the street street seating now makes it as Robin said it looking at all something close it take it over the sidewalk.

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well.

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Jim Robb: Well, I can tell you right.

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Jim Robb: I do business with him.

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Jim Robb: But I don't like them, and my wife works at that location for 16 years when it was the terrorists, which was the best, and I would be more than happy to cause problems with them and.

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Brian Averill: Make sure that they got easy but.

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Jim Robb: When I.

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Jim Robb: Think, I think we should.

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Jim Robb: Robin if you got if you got emotion, I think we should go for it, and I think definitely they take it there they're alfresco to a.

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Jim Robb: To overextending protocol.

778
01:09:38.310 --> 01:09:42.180
Nick Antonicello: The emphasis should be on public access, because that's, the only thing they're going to dress.

779
01:09:42.480 --> 01:09:48.240
Nick Antonicello: Okay, you have to really address the fact that you can't walk now West from.

780
01:09:49.470 --> 01:09:54.990
Nick Antonicello: The from nick's liquor through that facility, the oppression is the tool product, I mean.

781
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evelynsaro: Ada ta.

782
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evelynsaro: Ada needs to be where they're going to get.

783
01:09:59.010 --> 01:10:03.570
Jim Robb: Right yeah exactly so Robin Can you give us a motion real quick.

784
01:10:03.660 --> 01:10:05.490
Brian Averill: Oh wait, we have one public comment, we didn't.

785
01:10:06.090 --> 01:10:06.600
Jim Robb: Yes.

786
01:10:06.660 --> 01:10:08.790
Brian Averill: sorry about that Lisa go for.

787
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hi.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Thank you for bringing this up Robin because yeah it's been bothering me to you, yes, public access is an issue but it's also public safety, because they created this overhang that we don't building department didn't come out and inspect it or give approval to it.

789
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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: or anything so we don't know its construction we don't know when the next we have the wind storms going to do to it or videos playing around it and swinging on it, and the next person that walks through is going to have it come down on them so it's also a public safety issue as well.

790
01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:42.990
awesome.

791
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Jim Robb: Alright, Robin give us a potion.

792
01:10:47.160 --> 01:10:47.910
Robin Rudisill: Okay, one SEC.

793
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Robin Rudisill: Okay.

794
01:10:55.470 --> 01:11:03.930
Robin Rudisill: Whereas at the Pier house on Washington boulevard in ocean front walk It appears that the public access is no longer on the sidewalk.

795
01:11:04.740 --> 01:11:19.080
Robin Rudisill: As it appears to be part of the restaurant and privatized, whereas the sidewalk does not always allow for Ada access, whereas the covering built over the area appears to be unpermitted and is a safety issue.

796
01:11:20.160 --> 01:11:28.860
Robin Rudisill: The and therefore dnc request lapd require the pure house to remove the tables and the covering that are causing this problem.

797
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:34.080
Brian Averill: Right Is there anyone else that should go to i'm not sure myself but.

798
01:11:34.470 --> 01:11:37.170
Robin Rudisill: Well, I suppose, to lack violation but.

799
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um.

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Robin Rudisill: yeah inspectors.

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Jim Robb: are building and safety.

802
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Okay.

803
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Robin Rudisill: So.

804
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Robin Rudisill: lapd and building and safety.

805
01:11:50.160 --> 01:11:51.540
Brian Averill: Great know well, did you have something.

806
01:11:51.660 --> 01:11:55.170
Noel Johnston: We leveling this specifically at the Pier house.

807
01:11:55.800 --> 01:12:01.110
Noel Johnston: Yes, no other no other establishments along Washington boulevard you're doing this.

808
01:12:01.770 --> 01:12:02.100
Now.

809
01:12:03.780 --> 01:12:15.090
Nick Antonicello: Luckily, the whaler is too, because if you're on the sidewalk whaler is is completely in case because they have that outdoor outdoor seating as well.

810
01:12:16.200 --> 01:12:16.530
Nick Antonicello: You know I.

811
01:12:16.590 --> 01:12:22.050
Brian Averill: mean you could you could leave it vague and, at the end of Washington boulevard in speedway that encompasses both of those.

812
01:12:23.370 --> 01:12:23.910
Jim Robb: Because even.

813
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Noel Johnston: Though I want to say something about Ada compliance.

814
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Jim Robb: I did yeah she did.

815
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Noel Johnston: Oh i'm sorry Robin I miss that.

816
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Jim Robb: doesn't even like bells in touch house, I mean at least all those you could walk down the sidewalk which is you know they just think if you do it on Windward you definitely should be able to do it on Washington.

817
01:12:44.160 --> 01:12:50.430
Robin Rudisill: yeah i'm not sure that in front of the whaler it needs to change it's pretty wide and it's clear it's still the sidewalk at least.

818
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Nick Antonicello: The sidewalk but if you're not if you're walking on that side of the street from say proceedings grill you wanted to continue to the beach it's the same issue, it looks like you're entering the whale a restaurant, because on the right they have all that outdoorsy I mean basically saying.

819
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That.

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Nick Antonicello: The whaler in the pure house or violate the spirit of public access outside.

821
01:13:21.660 --> 01:13:28.830
Robin Rudisill: yeah that's for sure, but I think the whaler they're allowed to have those tables in where the parking used to be.

822
01:13:29.550 --> 01:13:33.570
Nick Antonicello: it's not the parables on the sidewalk it's because it's enclosed.

823
01:13:33.990 --> 01:13:34.440
yeah.

824
01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:35.880
Nick Antonicello: well.

825
01:13:36.630 --> 01:13:36.750
Nick Antonicello: I.

826
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Jim Robb: mean I think I think if we get building and safety and lapd to stir up a little shit over it at the terrorist i'll call it, because it's still the terrorists to me.

827
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Jim Robb: I think that might I think that might make Michael.

828
01:13:53.670 --> 01:13:55.170
Jim Robb: Whatever the hell his name is.

829
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Nick Antonicello: Some of the.

830
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Nick Antonicello: Similar language should say something like is the current.

831
01:14:01.650 --> 01:14:02.850
Nick Antonicello: configuration.

832
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Nick Antonicello: Of the restaurant in compliance with with public access.

833
01:14:09.210 --> 01:14:16.860
Nick Antonicello: Like that are they in violation of any public access, I mean I think that's I mean look they put the thing up i'm sure that.

834
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Nick Antonicello: Some buildings festering in La came by once it was arrested and so that was properly constructed, the real issue here is is you said earlier, public access and Ada I mean if you're in a wheelchair you're gonna talk time getting from.

835
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Nick Antonicello: From one part of that place to the other, if you want to go.

836
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:43.980
Robin Rudisill: So i'd like to amend my motion to add one more whereas.

837
01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:51.060
Robin Rudisill: Whereas the current configuration of the restaurant may be in violation of public access requirements.

838
01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:54.630
Jim Robb: Okay let's do that let's take a vote, we got.

839
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Jim Robb: A like 15 minutes.

840
01:14:59.460 --> 01:15:01.770
Jim Robb: All right, Robert data bullshit who wants to second.

841
01:15:03.960 --> 01:15:09.420
Jim Robb: deck we're going to give dictate this time dig second in it, let us do a vote.

842
01:15:11.130 --> 01:15:13.170
Jim Robb: Okay, we are at Brian.

843
01:15:15.480 --> 01:15:16.050
Jim Robb: The well.

844
01:15:16.350 --> 01:15:18.210
Jim Robb: Yes, Robin.

845
01:15:18.570 --> 01:15:19.110
Yes.

846
01:15:21.420 --> 01:15:21.960
Jim Robb: bullying.

847
01:15:22.980 --> 01:15:23.520
evelynsaro: Yes.

848
01:15:24.090 --> 01:15:25.800
Lexie: lexi yes.

849
01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:29.280
Jim Robb: yep says yes that's unanimous.

850
01:15:30.540 --> 01:15:36.870
Jim Robb: Okay, good job guys Okay, so I was ahead of myself, so this is just discussion.

851
01:15:38.250 --> 01:15:40.650
Jim Robb: And we got eight minutes.

852
01:15:41.250 --> 01:15:44.160
Robin Rudisill: I have a little bit of background and I won't be long at all.

853
01:15:44.790 --> 01:15:48.000
Jim Robb: Okay, tell us what we need to tell us what we need to do.

854
01:15:48.300 --> 01:16:01.590
Robin Rudisill: All right, well, the Venice Community plan it goes hand in hand with the local coastal program you guys have heard LCP we've been in some of these meetings already well they're sort of starting over, and you know ocean front walk will be a separate subject.

855
01:16:02.970 --> 01:16:08.910
Robin Rudisill: So, because it's relatively easier to do the LCP first that's what they're going to do.

856
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Robin Rudisill: there's no sequel analysis required for the LCP whereas there is for the Venice Community plan so they'll they'll first to the local coastal program it's basically got to be meaningfully tied to what's existing in our land use plan certified close to land use plan.

857
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Robin Rudisill: And it needs to still any changes need to still conform with the coastal APP so they can't we can't the city can't propose things that are would be harmful to our character of Venice or public access.

858
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Robin Rudisill: So the Venice Community plan it's going to be prepared with the LCP as the starting point for the coastal zone section and then they'll fold in East Venice make some other changes I believe they're going to you know do some increase density along certain.

859
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Robin Rudisill: corridors, maybe Washington, maybe part of Venice and do a sequel analysis and I just identified a couple issues to keep in mind, for our part, ocean front walk.

860
01:17:15.780 --> 01:17:25.260
Robin Rudisill: You know we've got this eclectic architecture and eclectic character its a mix of commercial and residential ocean from walk is a walk street.

861
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Robin Rudisill: And after Disneyland it's I believe still the second most visited venue in southern California, in part because more than any other place in Venice actually and.

862
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Robin Rudisill: It embodies the diverse social and architectural character of Venice, you know I mean the ocean front walk is the example of what Venice is all about, and so what that tells me is.

863
01:17:49.890 --> 01:17:57.180
Robin Rudisill: More than any other place in Venice it's a character needs to be protected and we're going to play a big part in that i'm sure.

864
01:17:58.500 --> 01:17:58.920
Robin Rudisill: So what.

865
01:17:59.970 --> 01:18:01.410
Jim Robb: Go ahead keep going.

866
01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:02.790
Robin Rudisill: Alright, just a couple of my little.

867
01:18:02.790 --> 01:18:03.570
Jim Robb: Things yeah.

868
01:18:03.660 --> 01:18:16.710
Robin Rudisill: um so I believe that the residential structures on oceanfront walk must be protected in order to prevent displacing existing residence and to prevent commercializing housing.

869
01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:24.120
Robin Rudisill: it's essential to protect our existing are so housing and our other lower income housing.

870
01:18:24.810 --> 01:18:37.020
Robin Rudisill: and also the directly adjacent historic residential walk streets and all the unique neighborhoods around there should be protected from over commercializing of ocean front walk it's.

871
01:18:37.860 --> 01:18:44.490
Robin Rudisill: You know how having both residential and commercial zoning on oceanfront walk right now and in the past was very purposeful.

872
01:18:44.910 --> 01:19:02.400
Robin Rudisill: In both the current Venice Community plan and the certified land use plan, because the mix of housing and commercial provides a balance and that balance this part of the character and it is supposed to be protected and just another another couple of things we could consider.

873
01:19:03.480 --> 01:19:15.870
Robin Rudisill: We already have a very burdened infrastructure we have parking limitation serious traffic and safety concerns, so you know businesses should not automatically necessarily be expanding.

874
01:19:16.740 --> 01:19:29.820
Robin Rudisill: We should probably keep it at smaller individual businesses, not fewer larger ones, this LCP is the place where we say we don't want chain stores if that's what we all agree, or at least very limited and.

875
01:19:31.260 --> 01:19:35.430
Robin Rudisill: You know we've been waiting a long time for that, but the LCP is finally the place, we can do that.

876
01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:46.140
Robin Rudisill: We can even consider stuff like what our general public comment or earlier talked about expanding the bike path we can consider that we you know it's supposed to actually be down.

877
01:19:46.890 --> 01:19:53.880
Robin Rudisill: The Marina peninsula and it's not even it's not there, so those are the kinds of other issues that we can talk about.

878
01:19:54.840 --> 01:20:04.890
Robin Rudisill: And you know, the timing, you know will know when it's time to start providing our detailed recommendations there they're going to be coming out with some more of those meetings, so we will.

879
01:20:04.950 --> 01:20:20.280
Jim Robb: know that was my question to you is when do we need a really beyond this and will we be able to try to get somebody from that use of planning to talk to us your your my lead on this, so you just tell us what we need to do a beating and and what we need to do.

880
01:20:20.640 --> 01:20:24.930
Robin Rudisill: yeah i'm going to stay in close touch with them so and I will invite them when the time is right.

881
01:20:25.980 --> 01:20:26.220
Jim Robb: Great.

882
01:20:26.670 --> 01:20:34.530
Brian Averill: so out of time here, but we do have lexi Noel MIC and mark with their hands up, so I would love.

883
01:20:34.620 --> 01:20:35.160
Brian Averill: Everyone good.

884
01:20:35.310 --> 01:20:35.820
chance.

885
01:20:37.590 --> 01:20:38.400
Jim Robb: All right, let's go.

886
01:20:38.970 --> 01:20:45.900
Noel Johnston: i've got a quick one Robin does any of this include the 261 spaces, I think they have.

887
01:20:47.670 --> 01:20:55.770
Noel Johnston: been degraded over the last number of years there's there's really very little of interest that's being sold on the West side of the more and more right now at all.

888
01:20:57.060 --> 01:21:07.380
Noel Johnston: Is there any way we can encourage art in Venice arts in Venice of small scale, artists, creativity and the boardwalk I think.

889
01:21:08.550 --> 01:21:23.100
Noel Johnston: I know you seem to have questioned and i'm not sure we are the second biggest destination anymore um the the character of the boardwalk I think has changed in the last five years, I think it's.

890
01:21:25.530 --> 01:21:30.300
Noel Johnston: Less family friendly than it used to be, I think it's less kooky than it used to be.

891
01:21:31.350 --> 01:21:33.840
Noel Johnston: I think it's less fun than it used to be.

892
01:21:35.160 --> 01:21:35.550
Brian Averill: Actually.

893
01:21:37.980 --> 01:21:48.750
Jim Robb: Okay, so we got to move, but I think that's something that the the soda these to help us with, and I think that includes the signage and the spaces that you're talking about, for instance.

894
01:21:49.110 --> 01:21:56.820
Robin Rudisill: To give you a quick answer yes, we can consider all that with the LCP the weekend, our spheres are our craft open air sales all that.

895
01:21:57.330 --> 01:21:59.070
Jim Robb: Oh, I got you okay go ahead call me.

896
01:22:02.940 --> 01:22:03.810
Jim Robb: Have you have you.

897
01:22:06.090 --> 01:22:10.740
evelynsaro: I don't know if this could be included in that, and I was gonna try to this promotion for the next meeting, but i'll just put it out there.

898
01:22:11.670 --> 01:22:20.250
evelynsaro: If we can be sure that the residential blocks that are longer walk that there's no amplified music and then you know.

899
01:22:20.850 --> 01:22:32.430
evelynsaro: that the police and the bid people know their jobs and know that they shouldn't be doing that, so if that can be included or is that should I submit an emotion like that, for the meeting next week.

900
01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:33.930
Robin Rudisill: I would submit the motion.

901
01:22:34.590 --> 01:22:37.350
Robin Rudisill: On the law yeah okay.

902
01:22:37.410 --> 01:22:40.170
Jim Robb: So what you will do emotion with that one and.

903
01:22:40.950 --> 01:22:44.460
Brian Averill: let's go to mark I know mark has some strong opinions about this.

904
01:22:45.510 --> 01:22:52.620
Zoom user: hey everybody sorry I came in late but yeah just wanna let you know that last I talked to I think was Jason Douglas at the city.

905
01:22:53.610 --> 01:23:10.260
Zoom user: That ordinance is still on the table to have that included in the Community plan update, which is the ordinance to limit national chains on the walkway so it's been a while, since I talked to him, but apparently it's still on the table so just fyi.

906
01:23:10.710 --> 01:23:19.500
Jim Robb: Also let's maybe let's start a little separate what we're going to start a group for that particularly so you know, like our like you do with your group for Brian.

907
01:23:19.980 --> 01:23:29.160
Jim Robb: Maybe a sub group for for this Community plan we're co leading Robin and everybody can talk and work together and figure out with the lexi.

908
01:23:31.710 --> 01:23:32.310
Jim Robb: lexi.

909
01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:38.910
Lexie: hi this kind of goes back to you know what I mentioned before, and discussion about having.

910
01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:52.860
Lexie: event permits planning for the Summer Olympics, I have lots of ideas about this, I am expressing interest right now that i'd want to be on any task force or any other kind of committee, I really think we should bring in.

911
01:23:53.160 --> 01:24:03.750
Lexie: organizations like the Department of cultural affairs in Los Angeles see what kind of plans they have for the Olympics, how we can get the finished.

912
01:24:04.710 --> 01:24:11.340
Lexie: Our crawl involved with different art funding organizations through Los Angeles county and.

913
01:24:11.940 --> 01:24:24.120
Lexie: Preparing for the Olympics and how we can leverage our community to create programming during that time, that will invite commerce during that time we got to think that people are going to be air being being the shit.

914
01:24:24.420 --> 01:24:33.390
Lexie: Out of all the nearby and places just because we're not hosting any events we're going to have a big influx and it would be really lovely to somehow.

915
01:24:34.380 --> 01:24:52.980
Lexie: clean up pagodas maybe revitalize them, I have a kind of idea with the Venice are crawl of inviting street artists from around the world to revitalize the pagodas if anyone has any info about pagodas i'd love to know more, but yes, I want to be involved things.

916
01:24:53.400 --> 01:25:01.320
Jim Robb: Fantastic yeah lexi We appreciate that and that'll be part of it, Nick go ahead, you got the final two three minutes.

917
01:25:01.710 --> 01:25:05.220
Nick Antonicello: Okay, this is very important to the committee.

918
01:25:06.570 --> 01:25:17.610
Nick Antonicello: I believe that Venice trellis that we see everybody iconic Dennis Trolls that should be replicated for every street that intersects with ocean front walk.

919
01:25:18.180 --> 01:25:30.270
Nick Antonicello: So we we extend that proposition to out every student oceanfront walk the grassy knolls have to be replicated in landscape in such a way, where they can't be destroyed again.

920
01:25:30.810 --> 01:25:41.310
Nick Antonicello: some kind of Southwest motif so they don't become overrun with encampments like they were in the last couple of years, we need to double the size of the restrooms.

921
01:25:42.090 --> 01:25:53.250
Nick Antonicello: We think for right now we need to go to eight Just to give you some sense of size, I mean there are 800 bathrooms at Disneyland and there's four here.

922
01:25:53.880 --> 01:26:04.020
Nick Antonicello: So we need to be gone to the restrooms the general has to be a general maintenance program in terms of power washing it's done every day, the maintenance right now is that a fair minimum.

923
01:26:04.500 --> 01:26:12.450
Nick Antonicello: And I think we can look at capital improvement, I mean we need to look at how we can make the that is pure more.

924
01:26:13.020 --> 01:26:25.350
Nick Antonicello: versatile maybe have concerts out there, like that, who knows head in the fall, I think we should look for a Hollywood bold kind of band Shell a permanent financial at the beach.

925
01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:34.140
Nick Antonicello: And you know my thing is the years have been let's put a minor league baseball stadium 10 or 2500 people, so we have family events.

926
01:26:34.410 --> 01:26:40.980
Nick Antonicello: have been affiliated with the dodgers make it to the dodgers at the beach or something like that let's think out of the box.

927
01:26:41.370 --> 01:26:48.570
Nick Antonicello: there's an opportunity here with the Olympics coming in a lot of money available with them, and I think we should put together.

928
01:26:48.990 --> 01:27:00.150
Nick Antonicello: a wish list that that should be serious and looked at, because right now, and I think anyone's on this committee will say to boardwalk is never look worse and the boardwalk has never been more.

929
01:27:00.990 --> 01:27:02.400
Brian Averill: Absolutely, I agree.

930
01:27:02.580 --> 01:27:03.780
Brian Averill: Look horse last year.

931
01:27:05.580 --> 01:27:13.050
Jim Robb: So So here we go, so I think this is great, it was a short meeting everybody has great ideas here's what i'm asking you all now.

932
01:27:13.350 --> 01:27:25.950
Jim Robb: come up with ideas, especially for how we can improve the boardwalk take care of the signage how we could get prepared for this Venice Community plan, whether we need to bring in an urban planner bar news reduced that's did.

933
01:27:26.370 --> 01:27:41.130
Jim Robb: she's begging, to be on our committee she did that did that, for a living, so I didn't bring her on this, but she's more than happy to help sonny box is is there and wants to help out as well, so everybody think we'll do a.

934
01:27:41.340 --> 01:27:42.480
Jim Robb: meeting next month.

935
01:27:42.930 --> 01:27:50.970
Jim Robb: And we'll make it longer and we're gonna try to get everybody involved, so you guys think of stuff and send it to me, we got to go meeting is adjourned.

936
01:27:53.010 --> 01:27:53.670
Lexie: Thank you.

937
01:27:54.150 --> 01:27:55.290
Jim Robb: Thanks guys.

938
01:27:56.370 --> 01:27:56.670
Robin Rudisill: Thank.

939
01:27:57.660 --> 01:27:58.320
Jim Robb: You everybody.

940
01:27:58.770 --> 01:27:59.460
Robin Rudisill: Good meeting.

941
01:27:59.910 --> 01:28:00.360
Jim Robb: Thank you.