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jim murez: If you want to be a panelist you have to accept Oh, there you go.

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Ivan: Okay amen.

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jim murez: Thank you yep.

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jim murez: And for the rest of you we're just waiting for the committee to show up.

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jim murez: Like we're running a few minutes late.

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jim murez: I assume that mchale bravo is.

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jim murez: Mike bravo.

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jim murez: The cal is that the same thing as Michael or Mike.

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Miguel Bravo: This is Miguel yes.

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Miguel Bravo: Okay, should say Miguel on the screen.

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jim murez: yeah it does.

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jim murez: first time it ever has, I think.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hi there, my apologies.

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jim murez: Not a problem.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Joe had mentioned to me that his motion didn't make it on the agenda, so we are trying to figure it out.

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jim murez: But we can still put it on there was it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: submitted I now.

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Daffodil Tyminski: hold on this is actually calling hang on a SEC yeah it was submitted.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Joining momentarily.

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jim murez: Okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: All right, Jason says here allie is here.

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jim murez: Give me a minute, let me just see.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I just promoted her.

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jim murez: If I create great.

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Alley Bean: And here's my video oh God, although.

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Alley Bean: I should probably turn it off i'm sorry.

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Alley Bean: I keep it.

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Alley Bean: Like the bridge where is that bridge Jason.

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Alley Bean: Is that the brooklyn bridge.

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Jason Sugars: No that's a.

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Jason Sugars: Sign it's an old picture of the finish line of work.

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Alley Bean: Just gonna run and get my agenda out of my printer i'll be right back.

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Alley Bean: I don't know how long we're going, but I have to jump off at nine to go to rehearsal but hopefully we'll be done.

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jim murez: Because it's only, so I hope so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah i've gotta stop before nine.

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Alley Bean: and playing keyboards in a band Jason.

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Jason Sugars: There we go.

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Jason Sugars: How many people do we hate.

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jim murez: just give me one one second i'm just trying to see what happened to Joe Murphy, and the discussion forum groups.

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jim murez: agenda item.

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Daffodil Tyminski: NICO is.

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jim murez: Here start right after that is NICO mania you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: know is here, I just promoted him the panelists.

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jim murez: And I kind of don't think that Melissa is going to make it, she said something to me a couple days ago, but she was going to be flying about now.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I think that's right.

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jim murez: Give me one more minutes sorry people.

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Alley Bean: are worried.

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jim murez: Okay.

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jim murez: What he.

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jim murez: share the screen, we say you have we have a quorum.

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jim murez: Great.

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jim murez: i'm.

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jim murez: Sure, the screen.

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jim murez: Okay.

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jim murez: let's call this meeting to order.

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jim murez: The time now is 610.

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Daffodil Tyminski: This Jane oh he's on this committee, by the way, have you talked to him about it.

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jim murez: yeah yeah Oh, I did you get a chance to talk to him.

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Ivan: yeah not last night I did nothing no okay.

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jim murez: Okay, Melissa just texted me from her telephone she's on the airplane and it won't let her in.

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jim murez: I don't know I mean you know slots times airplanes have wi fi so she was able to text stephanie are you here.

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jim murez: Yes, Melissa know.

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jim murez: Jay know NICO.

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Nico Ruderman: present.

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jim murez: Jason.

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jim murez: holly.

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jim murez: Here Mike.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Why is it a beach I can't seem to be recording Jim.

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jim murez: yeah sorry.

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jim murez: I was pressing the yes thinking that I was.

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jim murez: There we go great.

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jim murez: um whoa we didn't get daffodil check there hold on cancel yes and now do it.

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jim murez: Any ex parte communications about anything on the agenda, I will have I had a conversation with the city today.

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jim murez: about whether or not somebody has to recuse we'll get into that in a little bit later, other than that I had conversations.

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jim murez: about whether or not we actually wanted to.

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jim murez: hear one of the items on the boards agenda having to do with fencing off the park but that's mute at this point, other than that.

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jim murez: I think that's all I have to share.

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Alley Bean: um is it expertise you speak with stakeholders, because I did.

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jim murez: yeah have you you just yeah if you did that'd be good to say so.

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Miguel Bravo: I did as well.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I think you have to sound which items.

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Miguel Bravo: you've had the communication oh it's a general question about why their.

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Miguel Bravo: Emotions regarding the racial justice committee.

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Miguel Bravo: And I clarified to them.

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Alley Bean: yeah that's item 10 right.

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jim murez: or.

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Alley Bean: 11 I guess I don't know.

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jim murez: Well there's a couple there's 10 and 11 we'll get to them in a bit.

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Alley Bean: And that was what that's what I had ex parte to get clarity I spoke with some stakeholders.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I am also had some conversations, not with stakeholders, but with Jim and I believe i've been on that issue and i'm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The fencing of the park.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i've spoken with the friends of the library about the fencing of the park.

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Nico Ruderman: This is me oh.

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Nico Ruderman: there's an ego i've spoken with a lot of people about the fencing in the park obviously that's a moot point, as you, as you mentioned, Jim.

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jim murez: yeah.

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jim murez: Well, because it's an agenda item it came in beforehand so gets good.

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jim murez: All out there, thank you, Nicole.

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jim murez: um.

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jim murez: Okay let's move right along.

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jim murez: announcements and public comment items, not on the agenda.

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jim murez: If everyone that would like to have their.

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jim murez: be called on their their need to raise their hands if you're on a cell phone it's star nine to raise your hand.

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jim murez: definitely give everybody a couple more seconds and then let's move on oh Jay Campbell is here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I see that i'm promoting him right now the panelists.

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jim murez: Thank you soon as he's promoted i'll check them in.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And what what i'm Melissa said she's going to try to go there at 630.

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jim murez: When she lives okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And we have one person with their hand raise for public comment or not.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Clark, did you want to make a comment.

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jim murez: Actually, before that is Jay are you there can I check you Office here.

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Jay Handal: I am here.

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jim murez: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: class.

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Clark Brown: Yes, thank you, on may 31 I emailed Jim a petition for a motion signed by 64 stakeholders and asked him to put.

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Clark Brown: In and the motion on the boards agenda and it's June 21 or July 19 meaning.

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Clark Brown: pursuant to Articles a section to have the bylaws I did that, because at the May 17 add calm meeting gin call me the file and stakeholder petition and motion because the homelessness Committee refused my repeated requests to consider them, so I did what Jim told me to do.

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Clark Brown: So i'd like Jim to confirm that the petition and the motion will be on the boards agenda for it's June 21 or July 19 meeting.

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Clark Brown: Jim.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm okay thanks Clark.

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Clark Brown: Then, can you confirm that.

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jim murez: We don't normally respond to public comment Clark.

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Clark Brown: Well then, since you won't respond, let me, can I add add something regarding jurisdiction.

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Clark Brown: Please, thank you, Jim is expressed in a newspaper article that there's a lack of jurisdiction on the part of the board to consider the petition and the motion.

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Clark Brown: And I think that's incorrect first jurisdiction is not an ad COM or a president issue it's an issue for the board to consider when it decides whether to approve or disapprove the motion.

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Clark Brown: Second there's nothing about jurisdiction in Article eight, section two of the bylaws or in any other part of the vm CS bylaws or racks bylaws or dunn's rules or the city charter.

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Clark Brown: Finally, IRA told me yesterday that he does not know of any jurisdictional provision and that Freddie told him, he also does not know any jurisdiction or provision which would bar the board of the dnc from considering this petition and the motion to which it relates, thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Clark um and seeing your hands will close public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Q daffodil yes.

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jim murez: Okay, all business, we have none new business.

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jim murez: We have an outstanding.

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jim murez: minutes.

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jim murez: Did everybody have a chance to take a look at those two somebody want to make the motion.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I thought we weren't posting minutes anymore.

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jim murez: Well we're still keeping the paper record, I mean at least I am I think it's a good idea, because it's the only searchable the videos aren't really searchable.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh OK, I just it's.

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Daffodil Tyminski: A motion to approve the Minutes.

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jim murez: We don't have to as as Jay pointed out to us some at a meeting that I was at some weeks back, but but it allows us to keep a record so definitely you're making the motion, we have a second.

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Alley Bean: i'll second that motion.

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jim murez: Thank you ellie.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We do have some public comment Jim.

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jim murez: Okay, go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry realism trying to hold on godless.

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Elizabeth Wright: report regarding minutes if you do not have a paper copy available you're requiring all of your constituents to access a computer in order to find minutes.

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Elizabeth Wright: not good.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Liz.

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Daffodil Tyminski: anyone else on this issue.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, see no hands was closed public comment.

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jim murez: Okay, any committee comment.

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jim murez: Hearing none seeing none daffodil, how do you vote.

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jim murez: Jay, how do you vote.

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Jay Handal: abstained, since I wasn't around for the meeting.

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jim murez: i'm new NICO, how do you vote.

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Nico Ruderman: I know, yes.

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jim murez: Jason.

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jim murez: alley.

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jim murez: Yes, Mike.

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jim murez: Yes, and I will vote yes.

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jim murez: minutes carry six zero on.

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jim murez: Number 10.

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jim murez: This is a detail of the president's informal appointment of an ad hoc social justice committee chair.

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jim murez: Does somebody want to make the motion.

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Miguel Bravo: Motion since I wrote the emotion.

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jim murez: And can we get a second.

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Alley Bean: i'll second it.

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jim murez: Thank you ellie.

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jim murez: Now, before we go any further let's get something else out of the way.

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jim murez: there's a question about whether or not Mike is allowed to vote on this item, because Mike is trying to also become the Chair of the same committee that he's asking to have.

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jim murez: The persons who are currently well the person Stan who's currently sharing it removed from being chair, because he doesn't like the president's decision to make him chair.

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jim murez: And, and with that in mind there's a an issue of potential conflict of interest and and to that end Mike I asked you to contact the city attorney did he give you a ruling on that.

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Miguel Bravo: No, I didn't talk to him.

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jim murez: yeah and I see what the call.

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Miguel Bravo: yeah, then I said, what can I speak for fish but there was never there's no conflict you couldn't explain to me what the conflict was and so.

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Miguel Bravo: People can jam, let me finish, please, then, if there really is a conflict which there is not, then people can take what the Popper measures to exercise, you know, a grievance for that or However, the processes.

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jim murez: So I would like to postpone this motion until we can get a ruling out of the.

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jim murez: The city attorney I think it's sort of a waste of everybody's time to to take this up if if it's only going to be.

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jim murez: You know if somebody's going to file a grievance later that that this was done incorrectly.

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jim murez: Clearly Mike if you want to be the chair of the committee and you're voting to have the other person removed there's a definite conflict in my mind, but.

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jim murez: Again, I think that it's the city and since the stakeholder forwarded the request i'm going to ask that we postpone this for a month until we come here.

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Miguel Bravo: And I can add real quick to it, I think the the finished piece issue really is whether or not the current committee had expired, or not according to the bylaws it has, but I know Jim do you just agree with that.

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Miguel Bravo: assessment, and I think that's what everyone needs to be on whether or not this committee is actually an existence, hence why a motion number 11 to recreate it since the nine days has expired, according to the bylaws.

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jim murez: Okay well let's let's let's take one item at a time let's let's postpone item 10 does anybody have an objection to that.

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jim murez: So let me just.

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Nico Ruderman: add this I I object to a gym.

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Nico Ruderman: I don't think we should we want me to discuss this now the sneaker.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay well.

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jim murez: Is anybody else agree.

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Miguel Bravo: I agree, I.

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Jason Sugars: do agree that we should go ahead and try to clear it up waiting another month we've waited a few months.

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jim murez: Well Okay, then then let's talk about the other issue that does the committee exists or not I mean if we're going to veto one I guess the first question that we have to answer is is, are we going to veto an existing committee.

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jim murez: or not now let me just say that the committee and this is something I did talk to the city about so we can talk a little bit about number 11.

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jim murez: Which is a recreation of the committee, the Committee isn't created until there is somebody to chair the committee.

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jim murez: And until there are members of the committee there's a minimum requirement and robert's rules of having three people to be able to have a committee so so there was no committee up until the point that I appointed.

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jim murez: Stan to the committee and and kinda co chair and so that occurred.

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jim murez: In in late April early May I think was announced at the main meeting so it's only been a month that the meeting that the committee itself has existed.

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jim murez: So now what you're asking to do is to take a part of committee that's already posted on the agenda and and has submitted it to the Department of neighborhood empowerment.

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jim murez: And now you want to have a veto to remove that chair, as Chair Now let me just state very clearly for the record Mike you submitted this and the writing that's there is exactly the way you submitted it.

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jim murez: And you asked to be chair okay so let's pretend that there is no conflict of interest that you're asking to put something on the agenda to vote on that which you personally, are going to benefit from his chair.

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jim murez: Now, setting that aside, then the next issue that you need to very clearly understand is that, if this is overturned and the veto occurs, the bylaws are very clear, the President still appoints, who is the chair of the committee not Mike bravo.

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jim murez: Okay.

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Miguel Bravo: I got it OK OK, I can clarify to there is no nothing in writing, according to our bylaws that states, the committee starts once you appoint the Chair that's one.

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Miguel Bravo: If we can officially substantiate that you know via done, which is obviously what needs to go I would that would be wanting to go and.

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Miguel Bravo: I don't appreciate the suggestion that there is a conflict because they're not there isn't if you say like ever concerned that there might be, but to say that there is that is not correct I just wanna put it out there.

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Miguel Bravo: And originally I put the second motion in after I realized, according to the bylaws because there's no other written record of have a committee starting.

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Miguel Bravo: After the President appoints a chair, which is, to my knowledge incorrect and just let them know Ryan to substantiate that that's when I made the most number 11 to create it since it over expired.

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jim murez: Well, well Mike I.

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jim murez: really appreciate you've done all this research, have you ever stopped to consider how can the committee exist if the President doesn't appointed chair.

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jim murez: If there are no members, how can the many committee possibly exist.

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Miguel Bravo: We established a fit at the votes in March of this year.

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jim murez: We establish that there would be a committee as soon as the President appointed a.

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jim murez: that's right the President appoints the Chair.

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Miguel Bravo: And committee.

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jim murez: The committee can't start until that happens.

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Miguel Bravo: So, right now, I feel we're just playing semantics, and I would appreciate it, we can get done to weigh in whether or not right now, or sometime in the future, because obviously there's a.

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Miguel Bravo: Conflict in our interpretation of the bible's.

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Jay Handal: So, Jim can I can I.

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jim murez: Absolutely jake please, by all means.

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Jay Handal: Thank you, thank you so first of all I want to go back to item 10 because that's actually what we started out as.

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Jay Handal: Right and then we're jumping around, so I am 10 is asking for.

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Jay Handal: This removal, on the grounds, according to the motion there was never any due process for a formal public declaration of the dnc.

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Jay Handal: blah blah blah blah blah committee chairs and whereas is established dnc tradition to appoint board members, so this motion has nothing to do with anything other than saying that the process is, it is wrong.

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Jay Handal: And it was never any formal public decorate declaration, so if, in fact, the board.

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Jay Handal: form the committee and the Chair appointed appointed the Chair to the committee then there was a formal process and this motion is flawed.

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Jay Handal: And I would make a motion to deny this motion on the grounds that is flawed and that the dnc followed proper procedure in forming the committee and appointing a chair and having that committee go live by having a chat That is my motion on this particular item item 10.

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Miguel Bravo: And even at the veto part.

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Jay Handal: Well veto veto part.

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jim murez: So so excuse me haven did did did you understand what Jay was saying.

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Ivan: He had a little bit.

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Jay Handal: Okay.

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Jay Handal: So let me say it again, the motion itself.

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Ivan: who's already in motion on the floor.

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Jay Handal: By whoa.

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jim murez: My favorite emotionality seconded.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And we have not taking public comment, by the way, yet.

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Jay Handal: Right okay.

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Jay Handal: Well So anyone who is for or against, as board members, we can go back and forth, I guess, then my argument was that the motion is flawed Okay, there was a process and that's all based on the fact that was a process.

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Jay Handal: That this motion should be denied.

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Jay Handal: it's that simple okay.

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Ivan: that's not a shepherd motion, though.

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Ivan: you're not recommending.

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Jay Handal: them right.

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Ivan: away i'm.

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Jay Handal: recommending no all.

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jim murez: Right Okay, so let me, let me call on le real quick but and then let's go to public comment because we do want to take public comment once we've got this thing sorted out.

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jim murez: holly did you want to speak now or wait for.

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jim murez: Public comment.

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Alley Bean: i'm just let me just for in response to what Jay Jay said because I read your email Jim that you sent to all of us and.

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Alley Bean: i'm just trying to understand what you said, is that this committee, the at the administrative committee could veto, as a group that a chair that you appointed if the group found that it, you know, for whatever reasons they could vote and overturn your decision that's correct correct.

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jim murez: That is correct, but.

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Alley Bean: neato that.

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jim murez: What Jay.

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jim murez: What James is saying is is that the motion that was submitted is talking about they're needing to be due process.

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jim murez: that's not anything that's not part of the bylaws.

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Alley Bean: So it's the wording of it, of the motion is.

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jim murez: So the wording of this motion is not addressing.

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jim murez: Yes, that's that's correct okay.

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Alley Bean: Well i'm just here with the public says.

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jim murez: If everybody could put their hands down for a minute and just leave the the the daffodil do you want to go to public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um i'm just taking the order they're popping up and going go ahead, which I assume is Helen.

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Annette Fallon: yeah hi it's Helen um well one who's the parliamentarian here I J wasn't even around, so I don't know why he's talking about the process, but this whole issue.

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Annette Fallon: I the the whole conflict of interest argument is bizarre Jim I mean.

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Annette Fallon: he's a volunteer and, frankly, leaving Stan Muhammad is the Chair is the Co chair someone who basically failed to show up at about 50% of the board meetings.

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Annette Fallon: That he was attending and was removed for his absences doesn't seem like he's very committed to doing anything and I don't understand why he would remain as a co chair for you to be pushing that is it's very confusing.

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Annette Fallon: The you would even consider him as as functional enough to be on as a co chair, he should be removed period, he missed too many meetings and he's obviously not putting in the work that he needs to put in, thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks hon i'm eileen Brian Archibald go ahead.

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Eileen Bryant Archibald, Original Save Venice: Thank you, my name is eileen what she said, and as I reiterated it prior meetings.

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Eileen Bryant Archibald, Original Save Venice: Mike bravo has behaviors where the many elders were betrayed by a gofundme account, there is currently a case, if you want to investigate it further with cat captain and bread, he should not be leading any committees, and I believe it's questionable that he's even on the dnc.

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Eileen Bryant Archibald, Original Save Venice: I asked the dnc to not appoint Mr bravo to any proposed ad hoc committee and that the ethics committee take a look at his behaviors and Captain m brooke has all the information, thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you eileen.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Lisa redmond go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And by the way, when you're done talking, if you could lower your hand because it messes up the order that the names pop up in.

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Daffodil Tyminski: keeping track of it.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: yeah I think that there's an awful lot of semantics going on here and reinterpretation of what people individually think the bylaws mean.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I think it's pretty clear if we're just talking about this item that the ad hoc the outcome committee anybody can bring in a motion to overrule and.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: let's just go with that, I think.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: You know, we can get into the next one is the committee is expired that's another weird interpretation and semantics of of reading the bylaws but you know what other people are talking about is a simple conflict.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: People shouldn't get in the middle of that if there's legal issues, then those will be played out.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: But my problem started this committee key knows what's in mind for it, he knows the agenda, he knows what he wants to determine by it.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: You know, it should play out in the history of anybody who's been on a board starting to committee, they usually get the chairmanship, and I think somebody's playing some dirty politics here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Lisa.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Erica more go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Emily So if you could take your hand down that'd be great go ahead are.

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Erica Moore: You there hi I also echo what Lisa said i'm sorry i'm a little under the weather so i'm not saying much Sir coffee but uh.

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Erica Moore: I uh I think that you know people want to start looking at somebody who has allegations against them there's people on your board that have other allegations as well.

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Erica Moore: And that are pretty high positions, so I think that that's not what this is about I think what this is about somebody brought for NAPs like brought forth.

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Erica Moore: A committee it was his idea for very hard to put that together, and the fact that he wouldn't be appointed to be its chair is ridiculous.

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Erica Moore: And I think that there was, I remember a meeting where they talked about being Jason and light together.

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Erica Moore: Then all of a sudden that changed and now sentence Sam Mohammed, who is absent and he's not this afternoon.

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Erica Moore: And now off of your committee, but he was asking a lot of the homeless committee that he's on as well, so I really think it's ridiculous to keep pushing him to be honestly, I think it should be Mike Robin Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Erica.

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Daffodil Tyminski: lydia ponce go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: lydia.

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Lydia Ponce: yeah you just sent you just barely offered me to unmute.

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Lydia Ponce: Good evening neighbors and neighborhood Council i'm really opposed to the idea that bravo heads or leads anything with the term justice with the word justice in it, and this is what exactly what this is about that we have so many conflicts and so many.

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Lydia Ponce: Not just accusations, but righteous claims that are being investigated, and if you act like a colonizer well you get a police report on you and it's going to be investigated.

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Lydia Ponce: And right now, he should be looking to getting a part time job so you can pay the money back that he stole Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um we have someone in on the telephone here 310 number ending in 174.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead.

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1310****174: hi my name is Larry Williams.

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1310****174: My name is Larry Williams and i'm calling an opposition of my rival even being on that board due to what you did to the Community, it is no is no if ands or buts, what he did he admitted he did it to our group and now he's trying to play like he's this innocent victim.

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1310****174: Who wants to be over something called social justice will social justice would be for my bravo to make amends, to the business community and give back the money he admitted he took he is no person that should be in any position over social justice, none.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And lastly, and with this will close public comment was right go ahead.

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Elizabeth Wright: And just talking about.

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Elizabeth Wright: The outcome committee approvals permission, the President appoints the Chair subject to approval by the outcome Committee, I tried to look up bylaws just now I couldn't find it on the website just thought i'd mention that.

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Elizabeth Wright: and recruitment recusing is what economic only.

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Daffodil Tyminski: we're done okay alright thanks so much less and looks like maybe Liz dropped off.

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Daffodil Tyminski: she's here okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so with that we'll close public comment.

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jim murez: So okay let's go back to committee comment we're talking about Item number 10.

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jim murez: Whether or not the motion was correctly written and whether or not we can pass the motion.

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jim murez: We certainly can't pass the motion with Mike bravo his chair that part of the the motion is is would be in violation of the.

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jim murez: bylaws the bylaws very clearly state that the President appoints the Chair so so that part if we wanted to entertain a motion, we would have to at least rewrite the motion because Mike profit does not automatically get to become chair, because he wrote such emotion.

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jim murez: jic you have your hand up go ahead, please.

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Jay Handal: Okay, so a couple of questions, if I can, first of all thank you Helen for pointing out, I wasn't here, but in fact I knew read by laws very well okay and that's why I do actually chime in when I become a board member.

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Jay Handal: The bylaws they are on the web on not on your website I can't find them, but I did find them by googling Venice neighborhood Council bylaws So my first question is has this committee ever met.

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jim murez: they're in the process of doing so now.

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Jay Handal: Has this committee when was this committee formed.

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jim murez: The.

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jim murez: board approved the committee in March.

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Jay Handal: March the white.

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jim murez: The March of this year.

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Jay Handal: march 15 Okay, because you realize if you don't meet in 90 days it automatically expires, according to your bibles.

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jim murez: You but we didn't have a Chariot and Roberts Roberts rules as my understanding is is the bylaws come first done come second or maybe done comes first bylaws come second and finally robert's rules come third robert's rules, so you have to have people to be able to have a committee.

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Jay Handal: yeah well, it says your bylaws make it clear that it's established as deemed appropriate by the Board of Directors and then the Chair can.

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Jay Handal: is the one who recommend who actually appoints the President, so when this committee was formed by when it was approved that's the committee.

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Jay Handal: As far as I can read in your bylaws and when you appointed the President that's when it officially became a working committee, so if you apparently if you officially made this committee in March march 15 and at that meeting, if you appointed a chair at that meeting.

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jim murez: No that didn't happen until late April early May.

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Jay Handal: Okay, so, then you have so that's what i'm trying to find out the time.

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jim murez: that's that's what I explained earlier, so.

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jim murez: we're still we're still within the 90 days.

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Jay Handal: Within the 90 days.

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Jay Handal: yeah so and you did make the appointment and so basically if the motion were written correctly what the motion would be would be to.

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Jay Handal: veto your appointment of the Chair, and then there would be a separate motion by somebody that would say you know, Mr Mr chair you, you now have to appoint a new chair.

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Jay Handal: Okay, I don't believe based on these bylaws that committee has the right to then vote in a chair, that would be done, you would have to appoint a nother chair, if this one was vetoed.

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jim murez: that's correct and Ivan Ivan has already.

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jim murez: confirmed that to be correct, as well.

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Jay Handal: So this motion is completely erroneous and we, and this motion should be taken off the table, or because it's it's completely wrong and violates the bylaws just by the last line.

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jim murez: that's correct.

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jim murez: So that is correct, you are correct that the last line by itself violates the bylaws so we can't we can't go forward with this motion, the question is, is what do we do.

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Jay Handal: So my so i'm going to make a and those emotion on the table, but i'm going to make a motion to.

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Jay Handal: two posts postpone this motion Okay, based on the fact that it's an improper motion.

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Jay Handal: And the motion to postpone takes precedence over you know this motion that's on the agenda, and I would like to take you can take comment or whatever and invoke on the motion to postpone and then ultimately take it off the agenda.

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jim murez: So.

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Miguel Bravo: If I may jump in real quick I.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Do ya hands raised.

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jim murez: Just one second Ivan.

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jim murez: yeah.

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Ivan: What is OK to js.

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Ivan: js correct in procedure emotion, to postpone would override the previous motion it takes precedence so right now, you need a second for js motion.

378
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Ivan: To postpone.

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jim murez: got it.

380
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jim murez: Okay, so jays making the motion.

381
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jim murez: And do we have a second.

382
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jim murez: Anybody want a second chase motion.

383
00:48:08.940 --> 00:48:10.380
jim murez: Nobody wants to second your emotion.

384
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Jay Handal: Okay let's roll.

385
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jim murez: Oh, by the way, let me just understand something, am I allowed to vote on this Ivan.

386
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jim murez: yeah so Okay, because i'm chairing the meeting, am I allowed to second emotion.

387
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Jay Handal: mm hmm you can't make a motion, but you can second.

388
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Ivan: Half make commotion you then you probably shouldn't be Secondly, yet, but.

389
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jim murez: that's sort of my feeling too.

390
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Ivan: Many things at Camp.

391
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jim murez: yeah.

392
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Ivan: i've got sort of like.

393
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jim murez: Why don't why don't we take some more public comment and some more board comedy.

394
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jim murez: We can come back to this.

395
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Ivan: gym not people giving your opinion, and most of them are not correct.

396
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jim murez: yeah but well right now we.

397
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Ivan: follow the procedure.

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jim murez: yeah Jay had excuse me Jason has his hand up, I want to call on him allie has her hand up, I want to call on her and Mike I will let you speak after the.

399
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Ivan: To the emotion.

400
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On.

401
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Ivan: The motion on the floor is to veto your appointment.

402
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Alley Bean: nobody's seconded Ivan.

403
00:49:17.130 --> 00:49:19.050
Ivan: No yeah from but yeah I.

404
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Alley Bean: Did.

405
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jim murez: know the allie allie.

406
00:49:23.850 --> 00:49:42.780
jim murez: Just a moment please the motion was made by Mike it was seconded by alley to veto my decision and appoint Mike chair, that is a violation of the bylaws, which is what we are talking about are we going to violate the bylaws tonight or not and that's The big question.

407
00:49:43.650 --> 00:49:44.160
Okay.

408
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jim murez: The motion is very clearly written it's on the screen.

409
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jim murez: Okay alley use did second the motion.

410
00:49:52.590 --> 00:49:54.600
Alley Bean: i'm sorry I thought we were talking about js.

411
00:49:54.600 --> 00:49:56.550
jim murez: mono js motion was not.

412
00:49:56.550 --> 00:49:59.940
jim murez: Second okay Jay Jay made a motion to.

413
00:49:59.940 --> 00:50:02.040
jim murez: postpone and it requires a second.

414
00:50:03.180 --> 00:50:06.450
jim murez: Now let's let we have four hands up five hands up.

415
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jim murez: let's go through the hands and figure out what we're going to do with this Okay, we want to do this correctly, because if we're going to violate the bylaws that's going to be substantial and and you know we have to decide, knowing exactly what we're doing let's start with Jason go ahead.

416
00:50:22.650 --> 00:50:28.650
Daffodil Tyminski: Jason, can I just jump in because if we're gonna be sticklers on robert's rules here it's really Mike that should go first.

417
00:50:29.130 --> 00:50:32.580
jim murez: Because usually they make her an emotional no all right Mike go ahead.

418
00:50:33.270 --> 00:50:37.080
jim murez: I don't mind might go ahead, he spoke earlier, I was just trying to give every opportunity.

419
00:50:37.860 --> 00:50:51.330
Miguel Bravo: Okay, I just want to re establish that both motion 1011 even though we're not discussing 11 particular yet it both arrest on whether or not the committee expired or not under the bylaws it says that we expired.

420
00:50:52.080 --> 00:51:00.720
Miguel Bravo: we're in disagreement, and I believe we need a higher up authority, because obviously I don't think we're going to come to a conclusion here, hopefully we can, but I don't see that happening.

421
00:51:01.230 --> 00:51:08.040
Miguel Bravo: And that's the crux of all this right now is whether or not this committee even exists, right now, if it's not expired.

422
00:51:09.510 --> 00:51:18.390
jim murez: Well Mike if you feel that way, then the thing to do would be second jays motion and postpone this to next month, and that would solve a lot of problems.

423
00:51:23.250 --> 00:51:36.660
Miguel Bravo: Okay, is there a way to word a postponement, with some kind of a note or amendment that we need to confer with done or a higher up official on this matter, to establish whether or not this.

424
00:51:37.680 --> 00:51:40.110
Miguel Bravo: Committee even exist or has expired.

425
00:51:40.530 --> 00:51:41.430
Jay Handal: So so.

426
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Miguel Bravo: Like right now we're battling over semantics, and you know interpretation of bylaws.

427
00:51:45.240 --> 00:51:45.540
Jay.

428
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Jay Handal: Jay do you want to let me.

429
00:51:48.660 --> 00:52:07.170
Jay Handal: My yeah since i'm going to make a new motion to postpone item 10 item 11 all the items related to this pending or review by done in the city attorney as to whether or not the committee actually exist, based on timing.

430
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Jay Handal: Mike is that good for you.

431
00:52:11.910 --> 00:52:15.840
Miguel Bravo: So I can repeat that my my turn it down a little bit audio.

432
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:31.590
Jay Handal: i'm making a motion to postpone pending and bringing it back pending done and the city attorney weighing in on whether or not the committee actually exists at this time, based on the bylaws.

433
00:52:32.640 --> 00:52:33.870
Miguel Bravo: Correct that sounds good yeah.

434
00:52:34.680 --> 00:52:36.600
Jay Handal: So, would you second that motion for me.

435
00:52:37.260 --> 00:52:38.220
Miguel Bravo: I will second that.

436
00:52:38.310 --> 00:52:39.480
Jay Handal: Motion Thank you.

437
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:42.870
Daffodil Tyminski: Should we take public comment.

438
00:52:45.420 --> 00:52:46.890
jim murez: yeah Let me finish writing this out.

439
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:48.900
jim murez: postponed pending done and CA.

440
00:52:49.470 --> 00:52:50.820
jim murez: This committee exists.

441
00:52:51.090 --> 00:52:54.720
Daffodil Tyminski: Based weighing in on whether the committee exists, based on.

442
00:52:56.070 --> 00:52:56.910
Daffodil Tyminski: The timing.

443
00:52:57.600 --> 00:52:58.710
Jay Handal: Based on the bylaws.

444
00:53:00.300 --> 00:53:00.630
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

445
00:53:02.310 --> 00:53:03.420
Daffodil Tyminski: The timing and our bylaws.

446
00:53:08.070 --> 00:53:11.010
jim murez: Those the committee exist, based on.

447
00:53:12.060 --> 00:53:12.720
timing.

448
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:18.120
jim murez: timing.

449
00:53:20.640 --> 00:53:23.070
jim murez: Based on timing of bylaws based on timing.

450
00:53:24.210 --> 00:53:25.440
Miguel Bravo: updated on the bylaws.

451
00:53:25.530 --> 00:53:26.250
or in bylaws.

452
00:53:35.220 --> 00:53:37.650
jim murez: And Jay was the maker.

453
00:53:38.910 --> 00:53:40.740
jim murez: And Mike was the second or.

454
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:45.900
jim murez: And now you want to take public comment on that.

455
00:53:48.510 --> 00:53:50.880
Daffodil Tyminski: I mean, I think we should we do have some hands raised.

456
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:54.330
Daffodil Tyminski: Clark go ahead.

457
00:54:01.560 --> 00:54:04.440
Daffodil Tyminski: You have to unmute Let me try to unmute you here.

458
00:54:04.500 --> 00:54:04.920
well.

459
00:54:05.940 --> 00:54:06.960
Clark Brown: I don't have my hand up.

460
00:54:08.220 --> 00:54:09.420
Clark Brown: With a book in Berkeley I.

461
00:54:09.420 --> 00:54:15.210
Daffodil Tyminski: apologize Okay, no worries well we'll move on um Lisa redmond go ahead.

462
00:54:17.430 --> 00:54:18.930
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: yeah um if.

463
00:54:20.190 --> 00:54:26.670
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: you're postponing based for done and the city attorney to review then.

464
00:54:27.810 --> 00:54:41.490
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: till next month, then i've noticed that the you know alleged committee that I feel doesn't exist is meeting next Monday, so they shouldn't meet until this is all settled, so how is that going to work out.

465
00:54:42.720 --> 00:54:43.980
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: With these people.

466
00:54:46.140 --> 00:54:54.660
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Because that could be proven to be someone may file a grievance with that that this committee doesn't exist and they're meeting according to bylaws.

467
00:55:01.050 --> 00:55:01.800
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Lisa.

468
00:55:03.120 --> 00:55:07.770
Daffodil Tyminski: I lean Brian Archibald go ahead and least if you could lower your hand that'd be great.

469
00:55:08.790 --> 00:55:12.750
Eileen Bryant Archibald, Original Save Venice: Thank you um I want to reiterate some of the things I said in March.

470
00:55:15.390 --> 00:55:22.710
Eileen Bryant Archibald, Original Save Venice: me go bravo is under investigation it's questionable is ethics are questionable.

471
00:55:24.210 --> 00:55:26.340
jim murez: i'm excuse excuse.

472
00:55:26.340 --> 00:55:30.180
jim murez: me, excuse me, I hate to interrupt, we need to stay on topic, please.

473
00:55:31.560 --> 00:55:33.450
jim murez: The motion motion.

474
00:55:34.530 --> 00:55:40.620
jim murez: That is on the floor, has to do with whether or not we are going to postpone this item until next month.

475
00:55:41.070 --> 00:55:51.900
Eileen Bryant Archibald, Original Save Venice: Okay, yes postpone it till next month and do not consider bravo for any any committee leader positions, thank you check with captain and brick.

476
00:55:53.700 --> 00:56:00.930
jim murez: daffodil we got to be real careful we don't want to get off too far straying off because it just takes a lot of time, the motion is very clear.

477
00:56:02.370 --> 00:56:03.120
jim murez: veto.

478
00:56:03.270 --> 00:56:06.420
jim murez: is being postponed by one month that's all we're talking about here.

479
00:56:07.560 --> 00:56:08.430
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead Helen.

480
00:56:12.120 --> 00:56:12.450
Annette Fallon: yeah I.

481
00:56:13.050 --> 00:56:14.430
Daffodil Tyminski: Really, your hand that'd be great.

482
00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:16.020
Annette Fallon: y'all or when i'm done.

483
00:56:16.350 --> 00:56:28.710
Annette Fallon: Okay um I just want to remind you that the bylaws clearly state ad hoc committees may be established is deemed appropriate by the Board of officers chairs are appointed by the president ad hoc committee shall be terminated automatically.

484
00:56:28.980 --> 00:56:37.050
Annette Fallon: If they have not met in 90 days and the bylaws take precedence over everything not robert's rules and this parsing of committees, Jim.

485
00:56:37.500 --> 00:56:43.500
Annette Fallon: If they didn't meet for 90 days, just as you terminated ellie's committee because she didn't need 90 days.

486
00:56:43.950 --> 00:56:54.540
Annette Fallon: If you're gonna if you're going to make this argument than Jim I guess the Public Health and Safety Committee is still floating out there, waiting for you to appoint a chair and we're a viable committee.

487
00:56:55.230 --> 00:57:11.310
Annette Fallon: Because we don't have a Chariot so if there's a lack of consistency, Jim and Jim and how you're interpreting things you rule before that 90 days and it's very clear there's nothing there's nothing ambiguous evaluated you go on our you don't need to go to the city attorney about it.

488
00:57:14.100 --> 00:57:14.760
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Helen.

489
00:57:16.680 --> 00:57:18.780
Daffodil Tyminski: And Erica more go ahead.

490
00:57:27.390 --> 00:57:27.870
Daffodil Tyminski: Erica.

491
00:57:34.140 --> 00:57:34.770
Daffodil Tyminski: Erica.

492
00:57:37.710 --> 00:57:38.730
jim murez: Maybe come back to her.

493
00:57:39.450 --> 00:57:40.830
Daffodil Tyminski: that's it actually Erica was there.

494
00:57:40.830 --> 00:57:41.280
Erica Moore: Okay.

495
00:57:41.460 --> 00:57:44.760
Erica Moore: sorry about that i'm here can you hear me okay.

496
00:57:45.150 --> 00:57:46.110
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, we can.

497
00:57:46.380 --> 00:57:56.250
Erica Moore: I sorry about that um yeah I just want to say i'm saying I mean it's pretty black and white just want to make one moment.

498
00:57:57.090 --> 00:58:11.940
Erica Moore: When someone's on vacation they are innocent until proven guilty i'm certainly not saying what the deal is because I don't know, but I am saying is I think if people unless there is somebody in need to make it something they need to stop using that as an excuse to not.

499
00:58:13.140 --> 00:58:20.310
Erica Moore: Should they should start seeing a person is guilty, because it hasn't been proven, yet, so I think that's really you know we're in America, so I just wanted to say that, thank you.

500
00:58:22.830 --> 00:58:27.090
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Erica and with that we will close public comment.

501
00:58:28.290 --> 00:58:38.040
jim murez: So let's go back to committee comment daffodil you allie Jason have not yet had a chance to speak on any of this.

502
00:58:39.390 --> 00:58:40.170
jim murez: alley go ahead.

503
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:45.150
Alley Bean: You gotta unmute me I.

504
00:58:45.330 --> 00:58:54.270
Alley Bean: figured out how to thank you um yeah I would especially since Miguel wants to postpone in here we're done has to say, I would agree with that.

505
00:58:54.570 --> 00:59:04.620
Alley Bean: I think that least redmond did bring up a really good point, though, that we should I don't know if we discuss this after, but I also agree that the committee should not meet until this is discussed by the city attorney.

506
00:59:06.330 --> 00:59:07.710
Alley Bean: Just as to whether it exists.

507
00:59:08.820 --> 00:59:11.100
jim murez: Thank you Jason go ahead.

508
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:28.050
Jason Sugars: i'm just curious is there is there any way that there could be any kind of community Community input or any other input, instead of a unilateral is it common for you to unilateral for the President to unilaterally assign the head of ad hoc committees, without any input from anyone else.

509
00:59:29.250 --> 00:59:29.820
jim murez: Not.

510
00:59:30.240 --> 00:59:39.090
Ivan: require a bylaws amendment the bylaws are in a moratorium right now and cannot be changed until probably next you.

511
00:59:40.410 --> 00:59:40.650
Ivan: know.

512
00:59:41.370 --> 00:59:46.620
Ivan: It doesn't matter what the Community says about it, the board can change the bylaws.

513
00:59:47.490 --> 00:59:49.230
Jason Sugars: Much IRA justin.

514
00:59:49.260 --> 00:59:50.610
Jason Sugars: on to the second question.

515
00:59:50.670 --> 00:59:55.740
jim murez: Jason let me, let me just respond, also in the information.

516
00:59:56.430 --> 01:00:05.130
jim murez: informally, I can certainly take recommendations from people and discussion, I know I discussed with you becoming chair and, at the time, you and I talked about it.

517
01:00:05.430 --> 01:00:15.840
jim murez: I told you that a couple of other people that already asked if they could do it and, and you know i'm always open to discussing it and that's true on on cheering for any of the committee's.

518
01:00:18.090 --> 01:00:32.520
Jason Sugars: And i'm just I think my fear or my discomfort has very little to do with who's meant to run it or vetoing anything and more to do with just a world where maybe Lyndon Johnson decided who was in charge of the naacp it seems that there should be some sort of.

519
01:00:33.630 --> 01:00:41.160
Jason Sugars: Other input and unilateral decision from top to bottom seems odd culturally and I understand by laws, and I think that you understand what I mean.

520
01:00:41.460 --> 01:00:46.560
jim murez: yeah No, I do, but I think also you're missing the point of the veto veto is is exactly that.

521
01:00:46.770 --> 01:00:57.780
jim murez: That discussion if if one of the committee members doesn't agree with the appointment, that the Chair has made, then the Committee can certainly take it up and veto it.

522
01:00:58.170 --> 01:01:10.350
jim murez: And that is the opportunity to then have someone else be appointed again by the Chair, but, but you know we can continue through that cycle until we get to a point where everybody's happy with somebody being appointed to it.

523
01:01:13.050 --> 01:01:14.430
jim murez: You did you have a second question.

524
01:01:15.540 --> 01:01:20.820
Jason Sugars: No, no i'm good just a little just a little nervous and uneasy with.

525
01:01:20.940 --> 01:01:29.610
Jason Sugars: The assignment from outside of a community and a Community committee that has direct lines with the Community, I understand that there should not have been aligned.

526
01:01:30.060 --> 01:01:37.560
Jason Sugars: redirecting it to a different chair, so I understand what you're saying I mean, I know that line should never been there and so that kind of changes okay.

527
01:01:39.540 --> 01:01:39.840
jim murez: Okay.

528
01:01:40.860 --> 01:01:44.580
jim murez: Mike you have your hand up no you don't daffodil you have your hand up go ahead.

529
01:01:45.720 --> 01:01:54.510
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I mean I one, I think, Jim you have to check yourself and you don't have to respond to everyone's common as they're making it it's very frustrating.

530
01:01:55.560 --> 01:02:06.450
Daffodil Tyminski: But um I read the bylaws as they have to meet 90 days and I get that robert's rules of order is different, but if you go higher up in our.

531
01:02:07.200 --> 01:02:12.060
Daffodil Tyminski: You know bottom page 11 i'm looking at it now in our bylaws or at least what's posted on the website.

532
01:02:13.020 --> 01:02:23.220
Daffodil Tyminski: The size and composition of the committee's are left to the committee in the Chair, so we don't say that we have to comply with robert's rules, you know we need at least three people.

533
01:02:23.670 --> 01:02:34.380
Daffodil Tyminski: which makes me think that at times the bylaws are going to trump robert's rules which they you know should anyway, but um I really think it's right, this is an issue for done to decide.

534
01:02:34.980 --> 01:02:49.800
Daffodil Tyminski: I think that when we come back the motions should be the veto on who should be chair and and, by the way, left out of this whole conversation is Kai who I think has done quite a bit of work on putting something together, I know i've met with her.

535
01:02:50.730 --> 01:02:59.100
Daffodil Tyminski: She had been meeting with various members of the community and has an agenda you know to do community service projects and things like that, with the committee.

536
01:02:59.460 --> 01:03:06.870
Daffodil Tyminski: So I know there's been a lot of focus on Stan, but we have another board member here, who was on the board and who has been doing some work, and I would just be at least respectful of that.

537
01:03:07.650 --> 01:03:14.400
Daffodil Tyminski: But I think you know, there are some gaps between our bylaws and what robert's Rules say, and I think we just need done to weigh in.

538
01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:22.230
Daffodil Tyminski: But when this comes back sorry it should just be as the veto and then it's up to the President to you know do what he does or the bylaws.

539
01:03:23.370 --> 01:03:23.730
jim murez: Okay.

540
01:03:24.750 --> 01:03:24.960
jim murez: Oh.

541
01:03:26.010 --> 01:03:26.700
jim murez: You had your hand up.

542
01:03:26.970 --> 01:03:27.360
jim murez: I just.

543
01:03:27.450 --> 01:03:35.520
Alley Bean: I forgot to ask you this earlier, so you said that you were going to try to reach Stan does he want to be cherished still we never really got that out.

544
01:03:35.580 --> 01:03:39.930
jim murez: To the party I have had communication with Stan and daffodil did you also.

545
01:03:41.340 --> 01:03:49.980
jim murez: Stan Stan Stan when he resigned originally said that he still wanted to participate and he wanted to still chair the meat that committee.

546
01:03:50.250 --> 01:03:51.240
Alley Bean: What about now.

547
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:53.670
jim murez: And since well you know that's been.

548
01:03:53.670 --> 01:03:55.710
Jay Handal: way guys we're way off topic here.

549
01:03:56.430 --> 01:03:57.360
Alley Bean: But it's important.

550
01:03:58.140 --> 01:04:01.170
Jay Handal: Know what's important is the motion the.

551
01:04:02.730 --> 01:04:06.150
Alley Bean: President of the Council i'm sorry, can he answer my question.

552
01:04:07.230 --> 01:04:12.090
jim murez: he's he has indicated as recently as today that he still wants to stay involved.

553
01:04:13.110 --> 01:04:13.710
jim murez: Okay let's.

554
01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:14.760
jim murez: let's take a vote.

555
01:04:15.330 --> 01:04:16.110
Alley Bean: Here, though.

556
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:17.820
jim murez: Yes, okay.

557
01:04:19.080 --> 01:04:22.110
jim murez: um let's let's take about daffodil, how do you vote.

558
01:04:22.950 --> 01:04:23.250
yeah.

559
01:04:26.130 --> 01:04:29.580
jim murez: Jay, how do you vote yes NICO, how do you vote.

560
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:32.760
jim murez: Yes, Jason, how do you vote.

561
01:04:33.390 --> 01:04:33.780
Yes.

562
01:04:35.430 --> 01:04:38.940
jim murez: alley, how do you vote yes Mike, how do you vote.

563
01:04:39.570 --> 01:04:42.450
jim murez: Yes, and I will vote yes also.

564
01:04:44.970 --> 01:04:45.570
jim murez: Okay.

565
01:04:47.010 --> 01:04:54.930
jim murez: So that ends that one, and I think we're doing the same thing for this this number 11 we'll just refer back to it, I guess, I can make a note.

566
01:04:55.470 --> 01:04:57.840
Daffodil Tyminski: I think jays motion was for 10.

567
01:04:58.170 --> 01:04:58.830
Miguel Bravo: Was yeah.

568
01:05:00.570 --> 01:05:01.440
Ivan: Okay, Jim.

569
01:05:02.070 --> 01:05:06.390
Ivan: Can I change something quickly here, yes, waiting for number 11.

570
01:05:08.070 --> 01:05:08.610
Ivan: Make.

571
01:05:10.200 --> 01:05:17.160
Ivan: This motion number 11 is an illegal motion because it violates the bylaws.

572
01:05:18.750 --> 01:05:34.950
Ivan: So what i'm going to suggest to you if you want to give me a call I can try to help you reward it so we don't have that problem but soon as you start talking about this committee should do it, rather than the President that's illegal okay.

573
01:05:36.870 --> 01:05:38.730
Ivan: Mike i'm i'm available okay.

574
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:40.260
Miguel Bravo: yeah i'll definitely do that.

575
01:05:40.860 --> 01:05:41.550
Miguel Bravo: Okay, thank you.

576
01:05:42.600 --> 01:05:42.930
Ivan: sure.

577
01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:45.720
jim murez: Okay, so now we're down to.

578
01:05:47.700 --> 01:05:49.830
jim murez: Setting up the agenda.

579
01:05:51.900 --> 01:05:59.130
jim murez: For the board, we need somebody to make the motion and then someone to second.

580
01:06:01.740 --> 01:06:02.370
Jay Handal: Almost move it.

581
01:06:03.780 --> 01:06:04.950
jim murez: Thank you Jay.

582
01:06:05.490 --> 01:06:06.480
Jason Sugars: Jason one second.

583
01:06:07.410 --> 01:06:08.640
jim murez: Thank you Jason.

584
01:06:09.990 --> 01:06:13.740
jim murez: You just make another quick copy of this just to make sure that we have one.

585
01:06:15.030 --> 01:06:16.050
Daffodil Tyminski: This is where we left.

586
01:06:16.050 --> 01:06:16.590
off.

587
01:06:22.560 --> 01:06:22.950
jim murez: Okay.

588
01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:27.270
jim murez: So now, let me bring up.

589
01:06:29.190 --> 01:06:29.940
jim murez: The.

590
01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:35.760
jim murez: Fourth version of it.

591
01:06:40.110 --> 01:06:46.230
jim murez: Okay, so now we're on to our agenda for what's the date that 20.

592
01:06:47.730 --> 01:06:51.420
jim murez: yeah this is this is for this one, but it's actually going to be for the 21st.

593
01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:56.970
jim murez: Let me just mark these people in so we can.

594
01:06:58.590 --> 01:07:05.370
jim murez: How do I do stuff like that there we go Melissa are you here, you know chase here nico's here jason's here he's here and mike's here.

595
01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:07.530
Daffodil Tyminski: Unless it is here, I just promote our two panelists.

596
01:07:07.650 --> 01:07:08.220
jim murez: Oh great.

597
01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:11.880
jim murez: let's say something.

598
01:07:13.800 --> 01:07:15.270
Daffodil Tyminski: she's it says she's returning.

599
01:07:16.860 --> 01:07:17.430
melissa diner: i'm here.

600
01:07:17.790 --> 01:07:19.770
jim murez: Great Thank you Melissa welcome.

601
01:07:23.010 --> 01:07:27.120
Ivan: Jim we're still technically in the Ad copy meeting you don't need to take new attendance.

602
01:07:27.330 --> 01:07:33.510
jim murez: yeah no I need to so if we vote on which items go forward and which ones don't it just that that's the way the program keeps track of them.

603
01:07:35.670 --> 01:07:49.080
jim murez: Thank you Ivan okay so ex parte scheduled presentations public safety, these are all very normal things does anybody know who their current deputy for Mike ponton is.

604
01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:51.840
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, it's Isabel.

605
01:07:52.950 --> 01:07:53.460
Jason Sugars: Finish.

606
01:07:54.600 --> 01:07:55.020
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

607
01:07:57.570 --> 01:07:58.410
jim murez: Okay, great.

608
01:07:59.460 --> 01:08:04.350
jim murez: And and do we know about let's see I think last time.

609
01:08:05.790 --> 01:08:13.290
jim murez: The new person for guards seti I can't pronounce his name, but I believe that's correct, so I think we've got all of these correct this month.

610
01:08:13.500 --> 01:08:14.610
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah the sessions correct.

611
01:08:14.670 --> 01:08:26.370
jim murez: yeah Okay, and then the committee's are all here notice that the preserving public excuse me, the preserving public places and social justice and equity are both here those I added this month.

612
01:08:27.480 --> 01:08:29.520
jim murez: So let's take items.

613
01:08:30.990 --> 01:08:36.930
jim murez: Eight through excuse me one through eight and those will all be approved to go to the Boards agenda.

614
01:08:38.040 --> 01:08:39.480
jim murez: Anybody have a problem without.

615
01:08:41.280 --> 01:08:42.780
jim murez: Jason you have your hand up go ahead.

616
01:08:43.650 --> 01:08:45.210
Daffodil Tyminski: out, they just have a comment.

617
01:08:45.480 --> 01:08:47.250
jim murez: Hello Hello go ahead, what Jason.

618
01:08:47.850 --> 01:08:54.090
Jason Sugars: I think that, under eight, we need to remove the social justice and equity committee since they won't be meeting before then, according to our last vote.

619
01:08:56.460 --> 01:08:58.950
jim murez: I don't know that our last vote said they weren't going to meet.

620
01:09:00.990 --> 01:09:01.890
Jason Sugars: Okay tryna.

621
01:09:03.870 --> 01:09:04.170
jim murez: We have.

622
01:09:04.290 --> 01:09:06.870
Miguel Bravo: No occupied asked for yeah it's not a rhino.

623
01:09:06.930 --> 01:09:14.760
jim murez: rhino people had asked for people that asked for it, we didn't vote on it um let's go to the public comment daffodil.

624
01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:16.560
Daffodil Tyminski: We need a maker of the motion, and a second.

625
01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:21.930
Daffodil Tyminski: So I will move to add items one three to the board agenda for this month, do I have this out.

626
01:09:22.350 --> 01:09:23.430
melissa diner: In full effect.

627
01:09:23.820 --> 01:09:24.840
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, Melissa second.

628
01:09:24.900 --> 01:09:27.960
jim murez: Let me take your comment i'm keeping track of that on paper.

629
01:09:30.030 --> 01:09:30.840
Daffodil Tyminski: Go ahead Helen.

630
01:09:36.210 --> 01:09:44.430
Annette Fallon: Jason partly made my comment, I believe that you certainly implied that because there was a question about whether or not.

631
01:09:44.820 --> 01:09:55.530
Annette Fallon: The committee at already expired, because of the 90 day rule that it shouldn't be meeting so here you are taking a report for it doesn't even make any sense Jim it's so inconsistent.

632
01:09:58.320 --> 01:10:02.460
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Hello i'm Lisa redmond go ahead and Helen if you could lower your hand that'd be great.

633
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:12.240
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: I same thing i'm going to reiterate, I raised my hand before Jason made the comment I think it's a lot of trouble and an obvious grievance if this.

634
01:10:12.540 --> 01:10:19.560
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: is so important to get done to weigh in on things that they should just hold off and shouldn't be on the agenda as well, they should not meet next week.

635
01:10:23.580 --> 01:10:24.240
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you Lisa.

636
01:10:26.370 --> 01:10:28.530
Daffodil Tyminski: And with that we will close public comment.

637
01:10:30.270 --> 01:10:33.720
jim murez: Okay um we have any committee common l you have your hand up.

638
01:10:34.020 --> 01:10:47.670
Alley Bean: yeah I don't know procedure, how to do this, but can I make a motion that we postpone having the that committee until the the city attorney ways in I don't know when to do that in the meeting.

639
01:10:48.750 --> 01:10:49.140
Alley Bean: But I think.

640
01:10:49.980 --> 01:10:51.330
Alley Bean: going to cause a lot of stakeholders.

641
01:10:51.660 --> 01:11:00.420
jim murez: We can we can take them, we can take them off of the committee reports because that's what's before us to have them as a committee or not have them like as a committee, is not on the agenda.

642
01:11:03.630 --> 01:11:08.430
Alley Bean: So I mean, but can I make emotion that they that they wait until the decision is made to.

643
01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:10.050
jim murez: Well, we would have we would have to.

644
01:11:10.110 --> 01:11:18.690
jim murez: have a special meeting special 24 hour meeting, we can certainly talk about doing that, but let's wait until we get to the end of this and then, if you still want to do that, we can do that.

645
01:11:19.440 --> 01:11:28.770
jim murez: If we can get enough people to want to have this would be it would take having a special 24 hour board meeting to do that, so we can certainly do that, but we need to.

646
01:11:30.570 --> 01:11:32.730
jim murez: To do that as as something that gets published.

647
01:11:33.900 --> 01:11:47.550
jim murez: We can't just arbitrarily make motions on the fly while we're going through the agenda, we can take them off of the off of this document, because this document is here, this is before us this was published to understand what i'm saying is that what you would like to do with this time.

648
01:11:47.730 --> 01:11:50.340
jim murez: Yes, okay i'm.

649
01:11:51.060 --> 01:11:52.170
Daffodil Tyminski: Also, has her hand write.

650
01:11:52.920 --> 01:11:53.520
melissa diner: A comment.

651
01:11:54.870 --> 01:11:58.470
melissa diner: Yes, go ahead advisor if if in fact I wasn't.

652
01:12:00.060 --> 01:12:04.920
melissa diner: here before, but if in fact you guys get your way with whatever from dawn.

653
01:12:05.460 --> 01:12:13.920
melissa diner: That won't they won't even be able, there will be no committee at that point, and they won't be able to speak until someone else's appointed, I believe.

654
01:12:14.310 --> 01:12:26.670
melissa diner: So, like it's just a waste of time for us to like remove it it's symbolic I get it, but it doesn't mean anything, because it would be a mute point if they say that that committee can't continue his shirt anyway, so I would suggest.

655
01:12:30.240 --> 01:12:31.560
jim murez: We lost him alyssa.

656
01:12:32.550 --> 01:12:39.120
melissa diner: And said I was just suggest we move on there's like it's not worth like making a second and emotion it's just.

657
01:12:40.170 --> 01:12:45.690
melissa diner: that there will be no committee to speak, if that happens, or whatever, but I don't think that's going to happen.

658
01:12:49.110 --> 01:12:51.450
jim murez: um Thank you Melissa.

659
01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:54.510
jim murez: dears daffodil you have your hand up go ahead.

660
01:12:55.680 --> 01:13:10.740
Daffodil Tyminski: um I am well I just think that I think the issue is so everyone understands which usually our meeting is on Tuesday I think the committee is meeting on Monday, so if done doesn't weigh in by Tuesday.

661
01:13:11.850 --> 01:13:21.360
Daffodil Tyminski: Then there will have been a committee meeting, technically, they could report, I mean we could just ask them not to report and wait, because I don't know what they would report on their only having their first meeting.

662
01:13:22.560 --> 01:13:37.170
Daffodil Tyminski: um but, if what what allie is proposing would be just would want to amend the motion I made to strike i'm that one committee, reporting, which I think is fine, not every committee reports at every meeting anyway.

663
01:13:39.780 --> 01:13:44.100
Daffodil Tyminski: I mean we're making a mountain out of a molehill here, but if that makes everyone happy that's fine.

664
01:13:45.360 --> 01:13:45.660
Miguel Bravo: yeah.

665
01:13:47.490 --> 01:14:02.070
jim murez: So are we all in agreement to just strike the social justice and equity committee from the committee reports for this month and we'll come back to it after everybody has had a chance to go forward with done.

666
01:14:03.150 --> 01:14:03.390
Miguel Bravo: yeah.

667
01:14:03.660 --> 01:14:04.830
jim murez: And then we can move on.

668
01:14:06.330 --> 01:14:10.620
jim murez: Okay, so I will go ahead and delete this line.

669
01:14:14.940 --> 01:14:20.850
jim murez: And now let's take a vote on does anybody have any other comments about one through eight.

670
01:14:23.250 --> 01:14:26.700
jim murez: Okay let's go ahead now and take a vote on does anybody.

671
01:14:28.230 --> 01:14:29.040
jim murez: Have a no vote.

672
01:14:30.690 --> 01:14:34.680
Daffodil Tyminski: And by the way, Melissa has her hand raised Gemma i'll just note I don't know whether it's from.

673
01:14:34.680 --> 01:14:37.110
jim murez: Before you put your hand down.

674
01:14:41.130 --> 01:14:43.860
jim murez: I don't think she has anything else so i'm going to help her put her hand.

675
01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:46.110
jim murez: Definitely i'm going to help you put.

676
01:14:46.110 --> 01:14:47.580
Daffodil Tyminski: Your hand down, I thought.

677
01:14:47.910 --> 01:14:48.180
melissa diner: It was.

678
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:52.650
jim murez: OK now does anybody have a note to to.

679
01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:56.190
jim murez: or an extension of one through eight.

680
01:14:57.690 --> 01:15:01.980
jim murez: Seeing none at carries unanimously yes okay let's move forward.

681
01:15:03.570 --> 01:15:04.230
jim murez: um.

682
01:15:06.990 --> 01:15:17.490
jim murez: we're not discussing the Minutes, but do we have any problem with putting the Minutes on the agenda for this month, we have a bunch of minutes that.

683
01:15:18.120 --> 01:15:26.370
jim murez: didn't get approved previously because there were some mistakes and there are several of them that were held several meetings that were all held in May.

684
01:15:28.980 --> 01:15:31.860
jim murez: Okay, so we'll add that one and what about 10.

685
01:15:33.390 --> 01:15:35.130
jim murez: Announcements in public comment.

686
01:15:37.080 --> 01:15:48.150
jim murez: And then we would go to the treasurer's report, and I see there's an m E R report, I need to add that they also see Helen has her hand up.

687
01:15:50.160 --> 01:15:54.480
melissa diner: So before we approve we don't have to take her comment and pulled up.

688
01:15:55.770 --> 01:15:59.460
jim murez: yeah that's what i'm saying so we have we have nine 910 and 11.

689
01:16:00.450 --> 01:16:03.750
Daffodil Tyminski: And 12 let's go down let's do a whole batch.

690
01:16:03.780 --> 01:16:04.500
jim murez: what's OK.

691
01:16:05.070 --> 01:16:06.840
1314.

692
01:16:07.860 --> 01:16:10.320
jim murez: And then we get to 15.

693
01:16:10.650 --> 01:16:10.890
jim murez: there.

694
01:16:11.220 --> 01:16:12.120
jim murez: yeah we should we should.

695
01:16:12.150 --> 01:16:13.200
jim murez: end up at 14.

696
01:16:14.670 --> 01:16:21.690
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so it staff at all, I will make a motion to place items nine through 15 on the board agenda for this month.

697
01:16:22.110 --> 01:16:25.500
jim murez: sneaker 15 daffodil.

698
01:16:26.580 --> 01:16:29.160
jim murez: Second, to buy NICO.

699
01:16:30.930 --> 01:16:31.530
jim murez: Okay.

700
01:16:32.460 --> 01:16:34.290
Daffodil Tyminski: All right, let me take some public comment now.

701
01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:36.150
Go ahead.

702
01:16:40.050 --> 01:16:41.880
Annette Fallon: um yes on.

703
01:16:43.320 --> 01:16:43.860
Annette Fallon: The.

704
01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:55.050
Annette Fallon: where's the where's the announcement from the about the two board vacancies the treasure position and Stan mohammed's position I don't see that anywhere on the agenda.

705
01:16:55.530 --> 01:17:04.530
Annette Fallon: And so shouldn't be somewhere around there around announcements and the other thing is, if the treasurer's report has anything related to balances and stuff it will be.

706
01:17:05.490 --> 01:17:16.770
Annette Fallon: It was disgusted budget finance to have the excel spreadsheet that Jay had prepared so that's needs to be a supplemental attachment to this order, thank you.

707
01:17:18.240 --> 01:17:18.900
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Helen.

708
01:17:20.400 --> 01:17:23.580
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Liz right go ahead.

709
01:17:26.640 --> 01:17:29.790
Elizabeth Wright: Just a reminder that the Minutes have to be posted physically.

710
01:17:32.070 --> 01:17:38.520
Elizabeth Wright: but also for treasure for reports don't you have a motion that the board accepts report.

711
01:17:39.870 --> 01:17:40.320
Ivan: No.

712
01:17:41.550 --> 01:17:43.740
Elizabeth Wright: Okay, thank you bye.

713
01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:46.590
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Liz.

714
01:17:47.670 --> 01:17:52.320
Daffodil Tyminski: um Okay, so we will close i'm sorry close public comment.

715
01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:54.210
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, and um.

716
01:17:55.620 --> 01:17:56.310
jim murez: Let me.

717
01:17:59.160 --> 01:17:59.430
jim murez: Add.

718
01:18:01.230 --> 01:18:03.330
jim murez: To the president's report note.

719
01:18:06.720 --> 01:18:07.470
jim murez: board.

720
01:18:13.740 --> 01:18:16.020
jim murez: board vacancies and stand.

721
01:18:20.700 --> 01:18:24.720
Ivan: Okay, so Jim carrey was already approved by the board.

722
01:18:25.620 --> 01:18:27.630
Ivan: Yes, previous meeting.

723
01:18:28.980 --> 01:18:31.680
Ivan: Have you announced stands vacancy yet.

724
01:18:32.250 --> 01:18:35.670
jim murez: No that's that that was Helens point, and she was correct.

725
01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:36.150
Okay.

726
01:18:37.170 --> 01:18:41.850
Ivan: All right, be sure to put that you should write that into the agenda that.

727
01:18:42.060 --> 01:18:44.760
jim murez: yeah I just I just did I just okay.

728
01:18:46.230 --> 01:18:49.230
Jay Handal: Jim you put in board vaccinates.

729
01:18:49.290 --> 01:18:51.480
jim murez: Though yeah you know.

730
01:19:00.750 --> 01:19:01.560
Jay Handal: Yes, checking.

731
01:19:04.530 --> 01:19:05.190
jim murez: vacancy.

732
01:19:07.170 --> 01:19:08.970
Alley Bean: and see why they're.

733
01:19:11.550 --> 01:19:19.680
jim murez: stalling was never my strong suit you're more than welcome to correct me anytime you want Okay, so your hands up go ahead.

734
01:19:19.890 --> 01:19:28.230
Alley Bean: yeah I was just actually curious, given that that very question of the Board vacancy thing when are we going to elect a new treasure.

735
01:19:30.240 --> 01:19:30.930
Alley Bean: No, we didn't.

736
01:19:31.260 --> 01:19:35.580
jim murez: We are like we elected temporarily J, as our treasurer.

737
01:19:36.060 --> 01:19:37.350
jim murez: Right now, we.

738
01:19:37.500 --> 01:19:51.630
jim murez: are now at this board meeting the the point that Helen made which is correct, we have some board vacancies, we have one for Community officer vacancy and we have one for a treasure and those will be made if you want, I can put that into here.

739
01:19:52.170 --> 01:19:55.770
Alley Bean: And we'll people so i'm not sure how this works, so people submit.

740
01:19:56.850 --> 01:20:00.390
Alley Bean: What do you call it applications for that is that how this works.

741
01:20:00.870 --> 01:20:11.070
jim murez: Yes, okay and and rules and selections along with with our Secretary Melissa have already posted those applications on the.

742
01:20:13.050 --> 01:20:26.640
jim murez: Rules and and selections website, I know that they have the Community officer i'm not sure about the treasures, yet, because we were still trying to get together the treasurer's complete duties but we're moving along.

743
01:20:29.820 --> 01:20:31.170
jim murez: Definitely, you have your hand up.

744
01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:39.750
Daffodil Tyminski: I do i'm a couple things yeah I would echo Helens comment on the vacancies but also we did have.

745
01:20:40.890 --> 01:20:47.550
Daffodil Tyminski: A little pack candidate who's been I think waiting for two or three months to get on the agenda.

746
01:20:47.940 --> 01:20:49.890
jim murez: We approve that at that special meeting.

747
01:20:50.340 --> 01:20:51.060
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, we did.

748
01:20:51.510 --> 01:20:53.610
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, I thought we postpone that.

749
01:20:53.970 --> 01:20:54.420
jim murez: Did we.

750
01:20:54.840 --> 01:20:55.170
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh.

751
01:20:55.290 --> 01:20:56.370
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, my bad man I.

752
01:20:56.370 --> 01:20:58.380
jim murez: don't remember i'll go back and look but but.

753
01:20:59.220 --> 01:21:02.100
Daffodil Tyminski: I think I had Kovac during that meeting so maybe my brain just wasn't.

754
01:21:02.100 --> 01:21:03.720
jim murez: yeah I think I think that was already.

755
01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:05.610
Nico Ruderman: There was, it was approved yeah.

756
01:21:06.420 --> 01:21:07.500
Nico Ruderman: Personally, but it was approved.

757
01:21:07.920 --> 01:21:10.830
jim murez: yeah yeah that's what I thought, nobody liked it, but we did it.

758
01:21:12.240 --> 01:21:12.540
Okay.

759
01:21:14.310 --> 01:21:16.950
jim murez: Okay, so now let's take a vote on.

760
01:21:18.180 --> 01:21:22.800
jim murez: On nine through 15 does anybody have objections or abstentions.

761
01:21:25.080 --> 01:21:28.680
jim murez: Seeing done it gets a big unanimous yes.

762
01:21:29.730 --> 01:21:32.550
jim murez: Moving right along, we are now on to.

763
01:21:34.620 --> 01:21:40.050
jim murez: 15 was the land use can set Okay, so now we have to look at 16.

764
01:21:44.580 --> 01:22:04.740
jim murez: which was from the lupus committee 1718 1920 are all on Lou pat consent.

765
01:22:05.910 --> 01:22:14.160
jim murez: um can we have a motion for 16 through 20 going to consent.

766
01:22:14.400 --> 01:22:14.880
Jay.

767
01:22:16.680 --> 01:22:18.600
jim murez: Jay is making the motion.

768
01:22:19.710 --> 01:22:24.540
Daffodil Tyminski: I was gonna say, can we just go through all the loop back items there's only new business and one more thing.

769
01:22:24.780 --> 01:22:29.100
jim murez: I think that there was an issue on one of them.

770
01:22:29.790 --> 01:22:30.210
jim murez: Okay.

771
01:22:30.630 --> 01:22:32.460
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I think jays motion that.

772
01:22:32.490 --> 01:22:39.810
jim murez: The new about hold on just one second before we do that Ivan was was 22 the item that you wanted to speak to.

773
01:22:40.890 --> 01:22:43.860
jim murez: The motion to reconsider 709 brooks.

774
01:22:44.130 --> 01:22:55.590
Ivan: yeah we never got a chance to talk i'm going to suggest you go ahead and put it on the agenda and approve a problem with it, hopefully i'll be able to get you before.

775
01:22:56.640 --> 01:22:57.120
Ivan: You post.

776
01:22:57.390 --> 01:23:15.060
jim murez: The question is, does it go on consent, because it's 600 from Lou pack, or does it stay on as a new item for loop pack because it's a motion to reconsider a previous board decision.

777
01:23:15.390 --> 01:23:17.520
Ivan: right that can't go on contract.

778
01:23:17.700 --> 01:23:23.220
jim murez: that's what I thought okay so it's not going on consent, so we ought to take the consent items first.

779
01:23:24.990 --> 01:23:27.600
Daffodil Tyminski: Six till can just see it clear, I was never suggesting go on.

780
01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:30.450
Daffodil Tyminski: consent, I would just was suggesting we take all the loop back items together.

781
01:23:30.690 --> 01:23:34.770
jim murez: 16 through 20 going on consent daffodil are you second being js motion.

782
01:23:35.280 --> 01:23:36.510
Yes, okay.

783
01:23:38.970 --> 01:23:41.490
jim murez: Do we have any public comment, do we have any.

784
01:23:42.570 --> 01:23:43.920
Daffodil Tyminski: We do have some public comment.

785
01:23:46.470 --> 01:23:47.670
Daffodil Tyminski: What is right go ahead.

786
01:23:49.410 --> 01:23:56.790
Elizabeth Wright: i'm sorry all of the emotions from the pack have to be redone because they're written for a loop tech meeting they're not written for the board.

787
01:23:59.640 --> 01:23:59.970
that's all.

788
01:24:01.380 --> 01:24:02.250
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah you're right.

789
01:24:02.790 --> 01:24:13.140
Ivan: yeah you're right all right, we can we can do that's just type of stuff we can fix that just instead of saying lubick recommended should say the board approved.

790
01:24:15.540 --> 01:24:17.190
jim murez: yep okay any other public comment.

791
01:24:18.510 --> 01:24:18.900
Daffodil Tyminski: No.

792
01:24:20.010 --> 01:24:21.120
Daffodil Tyminski: We can close public comments.

793
01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:24.900
jim murez: Okay, so here Lou package just needs to say board.

794
01:24:35.520 --> 01:24:40.380
jim murez: Does that look better the board approves project is presented to support the applicants pose okay.

795
01:24:42.540 --> 01:24:43.050
jim murez: Okay yeah.

796
01:24:43.770 --> 01:24:44.130
yeah.

797
01:24:45.360 --> 01:24:46.380
jim murez: So I need to do that, to the.

798
01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:47.910
guys his hand race.

799
01:24:49.170 --> 01:24:54.780
Nico Ruderman: I just had a quick question i'm for these i'm within 500 feet of a couple of these.

800
01:24:56.220 --> 01:25:02.190
Nico Ruderman: Do I just have to recuse myself from the board voter to have to recuse myself even talking about this tonight, so I make sure i'm doing the wrong thing.

801
01:25:05.340 --> 01:25:05.550
Nico Ruderman: Like.

802
01:25:06.270 --> 01:25:07.140
Daffodil Tyminski: US yourself.

803
01:25:07.170 --> 01:25:09.630
jim murez: yeah I would just recuse yourself but I don't i'm.

804
01:25:09.630 --> 01:25:11.250
Nico Ruderman: Just gonna recuse myself from all these then.

805
01:25:11.640 --> 01:25:12.030
Okay.

806
01:26:28.980 --> 01:26:30.300
jim murez: Okay they're all corrected.

807
01:26:33.750 --> 01:26:41.070
jim murez: Do we have any objections or or abstentions let's see NICO recused.

808
01:26:44.700 --> 01:26:49.080
jim murez: i'm seeing no nays or abstentions.

809
01:26:50.820 --> 01:26:52.290
jim murez: This carries.

810
01:26:54.600 --> 01:26:56.250
jim murez: Whatever it is I guess that would be.

811
01:26:57.300 --> 01:27:08.820
jim murez: 700 with I forget where and what the order is but at any rate, and it carries by by unanimous yes okay now we're on to.

812
01:27:09.870 --> 01:27:12.330
jim murez: an almost unanimous yes NICO.

813
01:27:13.470 --> 01:27:14.460
jim murez: recused himself okay.

814
01:27:15.930 --> 01:27:22.530
jim murez: Now number 22 is new business, this is a reconsideration of a previous board.

815
01:27:24.990 --> 01:27:30.120
jim murez: I believe it was a denial, what was the what was the original determination.

816
01:27:33.420 --> 01:27:33.900
jim murez: Ivan.

817
01:27:34.740 --> 01:27:39.660
Ivan: Well, that could I would claim that I, I really need to talk to Macau about this.

818
01:27:40.620 --> 01:27:43.110
jim murez: yeah and he just got back into town okay so.

819
01:27:43.200 --> 01:27:44.370
Ivan: Okay, so i'll.

820
01:27:44.850 --> 01:27:47.880
Ivan: i'll talk to him and i'll let you know what what's going on.

821
01:27:48.300 --> 01:27:49.500
jim murez: But do we have any object.

822
01:27:49.500 --> 01:27:51.360
Ivan: Right now put it on the agenda.

823
01:27:51.510 --> 01:27:58.050
jim murez: yeah okay so let's put this on the agenda anybody have a no, or is there any public comment on this.

824
01:28:00.210 --> 01:28:01.350
Daffodil Tyminski: I see no hands.

825
01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:04.860
melissa diner: Okay i'll make a motion to put it on my.

826
01:28:06.540 --> 01:28:08.550
jim murez: 21 and 22.

827
01:28:09.630 --> 01:28:12.780
jim murez: Melissa dying or anybody gonna second I need a second.

828
01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:15.840
Daffodil Tyminski: I staff at the last second.

829
01:28:16.020 --> 01:28:16.560
jim murez: Thank you.

830
01:28:17.820 --> 01:28:20.730
jim murez: Any knows any extensions.

831
01:28:21.060 --> 01:28:22.170
Nico Ruderman: You go refuses.

832
01:28:22.260 --> 01:28:23.670
jim murez: nico's recusing.

833
01:28:24.240 --> 01:28:28.650
Alley Bean: I think I might have stained because i'm not quite sure what what we're voting on just.

834
01:28:28.650 --> 01:28:29.970
Alley Bean: Whether, to put it on the agenda.

835
01:28:30.210 --> 01:28:33.570
Alley Bean: Yes, yeah well i'll just add once Ivan finds out.

836
01:28:33.780 --> 01:28:38.730
jim murez: we're not we're not we're not making a decision about the case itself, the question is whether or not it goes to the.

837
01:28:40.020 --> 01:28:41.730
jim murez: Right okay so NICO.

838
01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:47.280
Alley Bean: NICO just abstain because I don't know what the legality of it is until Ivan finds out so i'm cool i'll just abstained.

839
01:28:52.470 --> 01:28:58.230
jim murez: Okay NICO Mr recusal and everybody else was a yes okay um I.

840
01:28:58.470 --> 01:28:59.760
Daffodil Tyminski: Have a question Jim.

841
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:01.530
Daffodil Tyminski: I was an abstention watch it.

842
01:29:01.890 --> 01:29:03.780
Alley Bean: yeah I got I got okay.

843
01:29:03.990 --> 01:29:08.640
Daffodil Tyminski: Why is the loop at consent calendar under old business is that how we do it.

844
01:29:08.910 --> 01:29:10.860
jim murez: that's just how it always used to be, I don't know.

845
01:29:11.520 --> 01:29:11.970
jim murez: Okay.

846
01:29:12.240 --> 01:29:15.450
Ivan: It always used to avoid it was a separate item.

847
01:29:16.920 --> 01:29:17.760
jim murez: You instill in.

848
01:29:17.910 --> 01:29:19.620
Ivan: The under under old business.

849
01:29:19.980 --> 01:29:24.150
jim murez: it's not it's under its under loop that consent right.

850
01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:25.140
that's.

851
01:29:30.780 --> 01:29:34.320
Daffodil Tyminski: Just the way, maybe it's this program it just looks weird to me but okay.

852
01:29:34.350 --> 01:29:35.370
jim murez: yeah no first.

853
01:29:35.520 --> 01:29:51.630
jim murez: Of all Christmas first came old business then came the the Boards general consent calendar and then came the loop at consent calendar and then came new business and that's how it always was, I mean as many years back, is there isn't history.

854
01:29:52.860 --> 01:29:55.140
jim murez: Okay, so now we're down to.

855
01:29:56.400 --> 01:30:01.350
jim murez: Where is it new business library fencing do we want to put this on the cat on the boards agenda.

856
01:30:02.610 --> 01:30:08.280
Daffodil Tyminski: So let me just speak to this one, because I was in touch with friends of the library about it.

857
01:30:09.750 --> 01:30:19.920
Daffodil Tyminski: We are prepared to having neighborhood committee meeting to discuss it if we would like to put this on the agenda i'm just so we follow our protocol of.

858
01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:28.290
Daffodil Tyminski: going through a committee and, of course, if the neighborhood committee word to deny the motion we would pull it on the board agenda but.

859
01:30:29.400 --> 01:30:34.230
Daffodil Tyminski: I as of yesterday it looks like the issue may be moved because they were installing fencing.

860
01:30:35.250 --> 01:30:40.230
Daffodil Tyminski: I know the request is for fence around the library and I just drove by there before the meeting to check.

861
01:30:41.820 --> 01:30:45.510
Daffodil Tyminski: And it looks like the fencing is not going around the library, so I reached out.

862
01:30:46.140 --> 01:30:46.950
Ivan: To the bread is.

863
01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:48.210
Alley Bean: Yes, it is.

864
01:30:48.570 --> 01:30:50.730
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah the library itself.

865
01:30:50.880 --> 01:30:51.240
Alley Bean: uh huh.

866
01:30:51.930 --> 01:30:54.630
Ivan: Not in the parking lot, but the library itself.

867
01:30:54.810 --> 01:30:58.950
Daffodil Tyminski: yep Oh, it is oh I just I drove literally by it, looking forward, and didn't see it.

868
01:30:59.700 --> 01:31:08.940
Daffodil Tyminski: Because they told me, it was mood, I just wanted to double check so Okay, well then that's the case, I think they were fine with taking this off of the Board agenda if it was already done, because of course the issue would be moved.

869
01:31:09.360 --> 01:31:11.310
jim murez: Okay, we have let me take the.

870
01:31:12.090 --> 01:31:17.670
Daffodil Tyminski: One one of the things we don't have emotion on the floor so let's let's make the motion at first, but.

871
01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:27.960
melissa diner: The other issue if you're in gym if you're pulling it we don't need to take public comment on it, if it's already done let's not waste time on Sunday and the party done i'm you do what you want, but that's my opinion.

872
01:31:28.950 --> 01:31:37.950
Daffodil Tyminski: that's right the motion is to put things on the agenda, not but the other thing is um I also was in touch with Joe Murphy, who said he submitted a request.

873
01:31:38.190 --> 01:31:39.690
jim murez: that's been corrected daffodil.

874
01:31:40.680 --> 01:31:42.420
Daffodil Tyminski: But doesn't have to go on to the agenda.

875
01:31:43.020 --> 01:31:44.730
jim murez: it's on the agenda we're not done yet.

876
01:31:45.480 --> 01:31:49.110
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh i'm looking at the agenda that's, so this is different than what's posted online.

877
01:31:49.320 --> 01:31:50.580
Daffodil Tyminski: Correct now.

878
01:31:50.850 --> 01:31:52.770
jim murez: Okay that's what I was doing at the very beginning of the meeting.

879
01:31:53.970 --> 01:31:56.730
jim murez: Okay, so we're just I does anybody have a problem with.

880
01:31:56.730 --> 01:31:58.140
jim murez: Just taking this off the agenda.

881
01:31:59.580 --> 01:32:05.280
jim murez: Seeing none oh there's three hands raised NICO you have your hand raised let's see, is there any public hands raised.

882
01:32:06.360 --> 01:32:06.930
jim murez: daffodil.

883
01:32:09.030 --> 01:32:12.120
Daffodil Tyminski: Sorry i'm glad there's three hands raise i'm trying to cough on everybody.

884
01:32:12.360 --> 01:32:13.170
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah um.

885
01:32:14.910 --> 01:32:15.510
Daffodil Tyminski: So.

886
01:32:16.680 --> 01:32:18.450
jim murez: The public public hands are raised.

887
01:32:18.990 --> 01:32:19.740
Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, there are.

888
01:32:20.430 --> 01:32:24.000
jim murez: Okay, can we just take those comments real quickly sure.

889
01:32:24.480 --> 01:32:26.250
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Liz right go ahead.

890
01:32:32.370 --> 01:32:32.640
Elizabeth Wright: Mike.

891
01:32:33.780 --> 01:32:35.010
Elizabeth Wright: My hand raised.

892
01:32:36.120 --> 01:32:37.470
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, it was a second ago.

893
01:32:38.940 --> 01:32:42.720
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay we'll move on Lisa redmen go ahead.

894
01:32:49.500 --> 01:32:59.520
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: yeah I know that the whole thing is a mute point now, but my issue and I don't quite understand what daffodil was saying about that it's going to be part of the neighborhood committee discussion.

895
01:32:59.970 --> 01:33:08.760
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: But, yet here it is on the board agenda and I if it was going to go to a committee first than why isn't even there on the board agenda is just that this.

896
01:33:09.120 --> 01:33:18.030
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: board is constantly rushing things without going to Committee last fall, there is a rush to get the whole bicycle CIS on because you know.

897
01:33:18.240 --> 01:33:19.350
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: It might get voted on.

898
01:33:19.380 --> 01:33:22.320
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Whereas we all know, they just voted on it, this weekend Council.

899
01:33:23.370 --> 01:33:30.450
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: We really need to follow protocol and take things to committee first it shouldn't even be on the agenda but that's just my point.

900
01:33:33.090 --> 01:33:33.660
Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

901
01:33:34.770 --> 01:33:35.070
jim murez: There any.

902
01:33:35.310 --> 01:33:40.410
Daffodil Tyminski: Other comments and Lisa if you could okay great thanks Helen fell and go ahead.

903
01:33:43.080 --> 01:33:55.650
Annette Fallon: No, I think it's moot take it off and the housekeeping issue Jim your Rules and selection committee only has an application for loop back so you need to make sure they get their house in order, by Tuesday, thank you.

904
01:33:58.200 --> 01:33:58.800
Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks Helen.

905
01:34:01.620 --> 01:34:06.420
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so we'll close public comment, and then we can we don't have emotion pending so.

906
01:34:07.050 --> 01:34:08.400
melissa diner: I guess we just take us off.

907
01:34:09.420 --> 01:34:13.890
jim murez: yeah let's just take it off NICO you had had your hand up I guess you dropped your hand.

908
01:34:14.490 --> 01:34:15.600
Nico Ruderman: Now I wasn't mistakes are.

909
01:34:15.930 --> 01:34:16.320
Elizabeth Wright: Okay.

910
01:34:17.250 --> 01:34:24.030
jim murez: All right, um so the temporary oops the temporary fencing This is just going to be removed.

911
01:34:28.140 --> 01:34:29.580
jim murez: i'll come back and do that later.

912
01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:32.310
jim murez: um i'm.

913
01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:37.020
jim murez: arbor committee put forward a very long motion.

914
01:34:39.240 --> 01:34:41.970
jim murez: Can we all see it do we want to put this on the agenda.

915
01:34:43.320 --> 01:34:44.460
Daffodil Tyminski: This is too long.

916
01:34:46.650 --> 01:34:47.250
Daffodil Tyminski: way to.

917
01:35:04.320 --> 01:35:04.770
Daffodil Tyminski: Is the.

918
01:35:05.100 --> 01:35:09.420
Daffodil Tyminski: point of the motion that the city should only use native plants.

919
01:35:09.540 --> 01:35:10.110
Yes.

920
01:35:13.500 --> 01:35:16.020
jim murez: except when they're talking about food.

921
01:35:21.690 --> 01:35:30.150
Miguel Bravo: I think we can cut the motion halfway started worth is therefore the dnc appeal to save our latest songs about where we can cut it off.

922
01:35:31.320 --> 01:35:36.750
melissa diner: I think we can put it in an attachment and work with them to make it more clear but we gotta.

923
01:35:37.860 --> 01:35:38.250
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

924
01:35:39.060 --> 01:35:39.540
do that.

925
01:35:40.830 --> 01:35:45.960
jim murez: So where, if we take mike's suggestion, therefore.

926
01:35:48.030 --> 01:35:50.370
melissa diner: On and move on to the next slide i'm just kidding.

927
01:35:50.790 --> 01:35:51.120
jim murez: We can.

928
01:35:51.930 --> 01:36:10.980
jim murez: We can we can move the first part that's highlighted now up to the top and then it's they still get to have their say and then leave the bottom half honest motion, I mean I think it's a fairly mundane thing that people are just going to agree to anyway, but maybe i'm mistaken.

929
01:36:12.480 --> 01:36:14.010
jim murez: I don't think it's a confidential item.

930
01:36:14.520 --> 01:36:15.570
melissa diner: yeah I can we put it on.

931
01:36:17.640 --> 01:36:18.990
jim murez: yeah let's let's take.

932
01:36:18.990 --> 01:36:25.020
jim murez: This part down based on mike's recommendation and move it up here which shortens the motion.

933
01:36:26.700 --> 01:36:27.870
jim murez: And we'll put that here.

934
01:36:29.730 --> 01:36:38.640
jim murez: And now the motion is much shorter and we will move this, what is this item number 25.

935
01:36:40.620 --> 01:36:42.090
jim murez: Let me make myself a note.

936
01:36:46.860 --> 01:36:48.030
Daffodil Tyminski: may ask her to.

937
01:36:48.450 --> 01:36:57.330
Daffodil Tyminski: define what native plants are because I think most iconic I said, we may want to ask them just for purposes of we're going to ask them to fix us.

938
01:36:57.870 --> 01:37:05.190
Daffodil Tyminski: define what is a native plant, because I feel like some of the most iconic plants in southern California not native to hear like coral trees, for instance.

939
01:37:05.430 --> 01:37:06.090
jim murez: there's a.

940
01:37:06.660 --> 01:37:07.470
jim murez: native plant.

941
01:37:07.500 --> 01:37:12.090
jim murez: tree list at the city's published I think that's what they're referring to.

942
01:37:13.830 --> 01:37:15.060
jim murez: It I mean it has been well done.

943
01:37:15.060 --> 01:37:19.650
Ivan: There for out of the motion to start with the Venice neighborhood Council.

944
01:37:21.960 --> 01:37:22.620
jim murez: Sorry.

945
01:37:23.250 --> 01:37:25.740
Ivan: Take that four out of your emotion.

946
01:37:26.370 --> 01:37:27.060
jim murez: Okay.

947
01:37:27.120 --> 01:37:30.210
Ivan: And it should just start with the Venice neighborhood Council.

948
01:37:31.980 --> 01:37:32.370
jim murez: Okay.

949
01:37:34.500 --> 01:37:38.610
jim murez: Okay, so do we have any public comment on this item going to consent.

950
01:37:39.750 --> 01:37:41.460
jim murez: As it's now been restructured.

951
01:37:42.690 --> 01:37:43.860
Daffodil Tyminski: There is no public comment.

952
01:37:44.130 --> 01:37:46.950
jim murez: Go Okay, do we have any committee comments.

953
01:37:49.200 --> 01:37:54.420
jim murez: um item 25 anybody voting know.

954
01:37:55.680 --> 01:37:57.000
jim murez: Anybody abstaining.

955
01:37:58.590 --> 01:38:01.020
jim murez: So it goes forward with a yes.

956
01:38:05.340 --> 01:38:12.210
jim murez: 26 this was brought to us by parking and transportation, it was unanimous by them.

957
01:38:13.710 --> 01:38:15.300
jim murez: They want to.

958
01:38:16.830 --> 01:38:25.680
jim murez: present an award to the department of public works Venice yard for keeping our streets clean during the pandemic and homeless crisis.

959
01:38:27.720 --> 01:38:35.820
jim murez: Do we have any public comment, so we need a motion First they want the cost of under $100 to do it, I think they're putting this underneath.

960
01:38:36.840 --> 01:38:37.950
jim murez: I guess outreach.

961
01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:45.030
Daffodil Tyminski: This staff at all, I will make the motion to place it and 26 on the agenda.

962
01:38:45.780 --> 01:38:48.330
Jason Sugars: Do I have a second sure Jason sugars or second.

963
01:38:49.410 --> 01:38:50.430
jim murez: Thank you Jason.

964
01:38:52.230 --> 01:38:53.160
Do we have any public.

965
01:38:55.050 --> 01:38:57.090
jim murez: Does it need to go to budget, or do we have a line.

966
01:38:57.090 --> 01:38:58.350
Ivan: Item not in the budget.

967
01:38:58.770 --> 01:39:02.310
jim murez: it's not in the budget so actually we need to just refer this to budget don't we.

968
01:39:03.180 --> 01:39:04.080
Jay Handal: yeah correct.

969
01:39:04.620 --> 01:39:06.030
jim murez: Okay, so let's.

970
01:39:07.830 --> 01:39:10.590
jim murez: not take emotion let's not do any more discussion.

971
01:39:12.840 --> 01:39:15.420
Daffodil Tyminski: We need to let them know to in case they invite someone.

972
01:39:15.900 --> 01:39:17.160
jim murez: yeah I think I.

973
01:39:17.370 --> 01:39:22.110
jim murez: talked to Robert about whether or not it needed to, but I just ended up putting it on here okay.

974
01:39:25.140 --> 01:39:36.240
jim murez: parking and telling that have abandoned and not operative vehicles motion CD 11 lapd board police commissioner's partner recommending a resume enforcement are we okay with that.

975
01:39:37.980 --> 01:39:38.700
jim murez: We have emotion.

976
01:39:41.250 --> 01:39:46.920
Daffodil Tyminski: And again it's daffodil I will make the motion to place item 27 on the board agenda for this month.

977
01:39:47.160 --> 01:39:47.970
Jay Handal: Oh yeah.

978
01:39:51.300 --> 01:39:57.840
jim murez: Okay well you guys i'm glad you're participating, we got a rush to be the second or the emotional maker it's great do we have any public comment.

979
01:40:00.660 --> 01:40:03.420
Daffodil Tyminski: I do not see any hands raised for public comment.

980
01:40:03.720 --> 01:40:05.310
jim murez: Thank you any committee comment.

981
01:40:05.730 --> 01:40:06.660
Daffodil Tyminski: will close public comment.

982
01:40:07.470 --> 01:40:08.070
um.

983
01:40:10.380 --> 01:40:11.490
jim murez: Do we.

984
01:40:12.960 --> 01:40:15.660
jim murez: Oh, you know what on 25 before I forget.

985
01:40:16.860 --> 01:40:17.670
jim murez: Who.

986
01:40:19.380 --> 01:40:22.140
jim murez: who made the motion on 25.

987
01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:25.500
jim murez: We have a motion maker on 25.

988
01:40:27.210 --> 01:40:28.020
jim murez: I don't know that we did.

989
01:40:28.710 --> 01:40:29.460
melissa diner: It can say.

990
01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:35.220
melissa diner: You can do them together with the same motion you do instead of the one of Jackson just put it on consent.

991
01:40:37.260 --> 01:40:39.000
jim murez: Okay, but we need a motion to.

992
01:40:39.210 --> 01:40:41.220
jim murez: To move it to consent, and we need.

993
01:40:42.690 --> 01:40:43.440
Miguel Bravo: To move it, I mean.

994
01:40:44.190 --> 01:40:45.630
melissa diner: But my point Jim I just want to.

995
01:40:45.630 --> 01:40:52.290
melissa diner: say is you take these in batch all the time, so you can just do it the same way, but you would have everyone.

996
01:40:52.620 --> 01:40:56.280
jim murez: All right, well, we already did this one, I did a second on this one, and then I don't have to think about a.

997
01:40:56.280 --> 01:40:57.000
Nico Ruderman: girl second.

998
01:40:57.360 --> 01:40:58.170
jim murez: Thank you NICO.

999
01:40:59.490 --> 01:41:03.360
jim murez: will do that in the future, Melissa Thank you so now we're down here.

1000
01:41:04.860 --> 01:41:05.040
jim murez: On.

1001
01:41:07.170 --> 01:41:08.520
jim murez: Anybody saying know.

1002
01:41:10.020 --> 01:41:14.700
jim murez: Anybody abstaining so it'll carry with all yeses.

1003
01:41:16.500 --> 01:41:19.710
jim murez: broadway and forth add stop sign.

1004
01:41:21.540 --> 01:41:25.050
jim murez: Changing this intersection from a two way to a four way.

1005
01:41:28.320 --> 01:41:43.140
jim murez: We can take that one hold on let's just see if we can take a couple of these at one time, because the next one is also parking resume street cleaning on Venice boulevard between Pacific and wall grove we put both of those on together.

1006
01:41:44.850 --> 01:41:45.600
jim murez: We got a motion.

1007
01:41:45.750 --> 01:41:47.040
jim murez: motion to put both of them together.

1008
01:41:47.040 --> 01:41:47.280
hey.

1009
01:41:48.480 --> 01:41:49.320
jim murez: Thank you Jay.

1010
01:41:51.120 --> 01:41:51.930
jim murez: We have a second.

1011
01:41:52.140 --> 01:41:53.490
Nico Ruderman: i'll second and holly.

1012
01:41:53.910 --> 01:41:54.840
jim murez: Thank you ellie.

1013
01:41:57.840 --> 01:41:59.160
jim murez: Do we have any public comment.

1014
01:42:03.210 --> 01:42:04.890
Daffodil Tyminski: There are no hands raised for public comment.

1015
01:42:05.340 --> 01:42:09.540
jim murez: Thank you daffodil um do we have any.

1016
01:42:10.830 --> 01:42:14.730
jim murez: knows, so that would be 28 and 29.

1017
01:42:16.320 --> 01:42:22.050
jim murez: We have any nose no nose do we have any abstentions, no abstentions, so those will carry with a yes.

1018
01:42:23.280 --> 01:42:24.900
Ivan: Okay, can reach go and confront.

1019
01:42:27.690 --> 01:42:35.520
jim murez: yeah they were both five o's so we'll move those to consent if anybody has an nobody anybody have an objection to those going to consent.

1020
01:42:39.720 --> 01:42:46.950
jim murez: So we'll put all of those on consent, so that was 25 through 29 all the parking and transportation ones are going on consent.

1021
01:42:51.360 --> 01:42:57.240
jim murez: So the next one was brought to us by a stakeholder it has not gone through committee.

1022
01:42:58.620 --> 01:43:04.680
jim murez: they're asking for no trespassing signs on ocean avenue along the farmers market parking lot.

1023
01:43:06.270 --> 01:43:16.290
jim murez: I did I should have said something earlier, I forgot about this, this is be the science, he would like to have that are currently are signs that say no trespassing.

1024
01:43:16.560 --> 01:43:26.220
jim murez: Pointing inwards towards the parking lot he would like to have them also pointing outwards towards the street, because the people are camping along the edges of the.

1025
01:43:26.700 --> 01:43:38.790
jim murez: Of the perimeter between the sidewalk and the parking lot itself, but I think that we need to send this to a committee unless somebody wants to say something otherwise it's.

1026
01:43:41.070 --> 01:43:47.100
jim murez: It hasn't gone through committee and I guess it could either go to parking and transportation, because it is a parking lot or it could go to neighborhood.

1027
01:43:49.530 --> 01:43:51.330
Miguel Bravo: Any comment, called the neighborhood might be a better.

1028
01:43:52.350 --> 01:43:53.340
Alley Bean: neighborhood too yeah.

1029
01:43:53.460 --> 01:43:56.490
Jay Handal: yeah I moved to remand it and I said okay.

1030
01:43:56.520 --> 01:43:57.210
So.

1031
01:43:58.380 --> 01:43:59.160
Alley Bean: i'll second that.

1032
01:44:00.300 --> 01:44:02.730
jim murez: Now we're just going to do it refer to.

1033
01:44:02.910 --> 01:44:14.670
Daffodil Tyminski: As the Chair of the neighborhood community, the only thing i'll say is i've already tried to deal with signs and Robert may be in a better position to get signs actually put in because i've had a difficult time with the city.

1034
01:44:15.270 --> 01:44:18.930
melissa diner: I agree with that, I think it should go to park again transportation.

1035
01:44:20.880 --> 01:44:21.930
jim murez: Okay guys.

1036
01:44:22.020 --> 01:44:24.090
Daffodil Tyminski: I mean we could do a joint meeting to if.

1037
01:44:24.360 --> 01:44:32.370
Daffodil Tyminski: for whatever reason, people want neighborhood to do it i'm fine i'm not trying not to handle it I just feel like Roberts been having so much interaction with getting signs posted.

1038
01:44:34.290 --> 01:44:35.640
jim murez: So she can we just send it to.

1039
01:44:36.030 --> 01:44:39.570
jim murez: parking transportation to everybody that said neighborhoods is okay with that alley.

1040
01:44:40.710 --> 01:44:41.580
Miguel Bravo: yeah sounds good.

1041
01:44:42.420 --> 01:44:42.750
jim murez: All right.

1042
01:44:43.980 --> 01:44:53.130
Miguel Bravo: i'm cursing what's the difference, though, like ultimately we just as a board send letters to the you know respective Departments what's the actual difference and.

1043
01:44:53.460 --> 01:44:55.440
Miguel Bravo: So, Robert Why would you.

1044
01:44:55.470 --> 01:45:00.180
jim murez: When when I was Chair of the parking and transportation Committee I built up a pretty strong relationship with the.

1045
01:45:00.210 --> 01:45:08.580
jim murez: various different players in that game and Robert is she's taken the that lead and continued to work with those individuals in those positions.

1046
01:45:08.970 --> 01:45:20.400
jim murez: And I think that's what daffodils referring to i've been able to I was able to get four way stop signs put in and Roberts been able to do the same thing and get other signage put up it's like you know who do you know, rather than what do you know.

1047
01:45:23.760 --> 01:45:26.250
jim murez: Though there are some hands raised NICO go ahead.

1048
01:45:26.550 --> 01:45:29.130
Nico Ruderman: yeah I just have a quick note on that question, you know I know.

1049
01:45:30.810 --> 01:45:32.730
Nico Ruderman: I know that's um you know.

1050
01:45:34.290 --> 01:45:34.680
Nico Ruderman: Sorry.

1051
01:45:36.120 --> 01:45:47.850
Nico Ruderman: phones ring in the past that there will do T had a portal that was shut down during coven to put in requests I personally got a lot of stop signs up around around my area.

1052
01:45:49.320 --> 01:45:56.130
Nico Ruderman: Before code does anybody have any idea when or if they're going to reopen that portal to make requests.

1053
01:45:56.520 --> 01:46:02.280
jim murez: I do not know, but that would be a good question to ask Robert Robert thibodeau at Venice nc.org.

1054
01:46:02.490 --> 01:46:03.510
Nico Ruderman: yeah oh.

1055
01:46:03.750 --> 01:46:05.670
Daffodil Tyminski: Jim we have some hands raised for public comments.

1056
01:46:05.910 --> 01:46:09.240
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so Lisa go ahead and make your comment.

1057
01:46:11.040 --> 01:46:18.600
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Actually, my comment was earlier when I wanted to ask for some of those items they got put on consent to take them off consent.

1058
01:46:20.100 --> 01:46:24.030
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And I raised my hand and I was not answered them.

1059
01:46:26.550 --> 01:46:28.080
jim murez: Up do you recall, which items.

1060
01:46:28.230 --> 01:46:34.290
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: nope you're going to have to show me the the agenda because I don't have that in Jenin in front of me.

1061
01:46:37.410 --> 01:46:39.330
jim murez: Actually, those were posted but.

1062
01:46:40.080 --> 01:46:40.650
jim murez: we're not.

1063
01:46:41.760 --> 01:46:42.240
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: we're not.

1064
01:46:42.360 --> 01:46:45.030
jim murez: All of the land use once we're on the agenda.

1065
01:46:45.120 --> 01:46:48.150
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: No, not the land this one's, the most recent ones you just did.

1066
01:46:48.840 --> 01:46:52.830
jim murez: Oh, the most recent one so okay you're talking about the the tree the tree planting a.

1067
01:46:53.430 --> 01:46:55.680
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: tree planting could state wait you're going too fast.

1068
01:46:55.770 --> 01:47:02.340
jim murez: Okay, so it was it was 25 through 29 so 25 is is the the plant species.

1069
01:47:03.240 --> 01:47:04.770
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: um yeah.

1070
01:47:05.160 --> 01:47:08.370
jim murez: 26 is is public works.

1071
01:47:08.460 --> 01:47:08.760
Fine.

1072
01:47:10.140 --> 01:47:11.250
jim murez: recognition.

1073
01:47:11.610 --> 01:47:12.870
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: 26 is going to budget.

1074
01:47:14.190 --> 01:47:14.730
jim murez: Right.

1075
01:47:15.060 --> 01:47:17.310
jim murez: Right that's correct 27.

1076
01:47:17.850 --> 01:47:19.560
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: yeah seven out.

1077
01:47:20.580 --> 01:47:23.490
jim murez: So 27 you do not want to have one on consent.

1078
01:47:23.850 --> 01:47:24.720
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: That is correct.

1079
01:47:26.280 --> 01:47:32.820
jim murez: Okay well there's no reason to put it on there if you're going to pull it off at the board, what about what about 28 that's a stop sign.

1080
01:47:33.210 --> 01:47:34.320
yeah line.

1081
01:47:36.150 --> 01:47:37.740
jim murez: and resume street cleaning.

1082
01:47:38.550 --> 01:47:39.630
i'm.

1083
01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:43.290
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: sure that can say it was.

1084
01:47:43.320 --> 01:47:43.800
jim murez: OK so.

1085
01:47:44.040 --> 01:47:50.640
jim murez: This is 27 all right, we will, I will make that that that that change to the.

1086
01:47:50.820 --> 01:47:51.420
Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Thank you.

1087
01:47:52.110 --> 01:47:55.980
jim murez: yeah OK, so now, I think we are down to.

1088
01:47:57.210 --> 01:48:03.690
jim murez: The Venice parks initiative, this was the discussion forum daffodil you know it's a fairly lengthy motion.

1089
01:48:05.460 --> 01:48:09.930
jim murez: How do we want to dissect this to where we can actually digest it at the board level.

1090
01:48:11.730 --> 01:48:12.030
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh.

1091
01:48:12.090 --> 01:48:13.320
jim murez: Lisa can you put your hands.

1092
01:48:13.320 --> 01:48:13.560
down.

1093
01:48:16.170 --> 01:48:26.040
Daffodil Tyminski: About halfway through a separate the whereas clauses and then it says the neighbor Venice neighborhood Council board is in support of this yeah that's actually the motion.

1094
01:48:27.930 --> 01:48:28.440
jim murez: Okay.

1095
01:48:29.490 --> 01:48:30.480
Daffodil Tyminski: it's still long.

1096
01:48:30.810 --> 01:48:32.070
jim murez: it's still really long.

1097
01:48:32.520 --> 01:48:36.000
Daffodil Tyminski: But I think it actually supposed to have subpar.

1098
01:48:40.110 --> 01:48:40.980
Daffodil Tyminski: Sad part.

1099
01:48:43.470 --> 01:48:47.550
jim murez: yeah, so there is a be let's see there is an A.

1100
01:48:49.530 --> 01:48:51.030
jim murez: And then there is a B.

1101
01:48:52.350 --> 01:48:53.970
jim murez: And then there is a see.

1102
01:48:55.350 --> 01:48:56.580
jim murez: Oh, and there's even a D.

1103
01:48:58.500 --> 01:48:59.280
jim murez: how's that look.

1104
01:49:03.480 --> 01:49:04.500
Daffodil Tyminski: That looks good.

1105
01:49:05.730 --> 01:49:06.510
jim murez: So now we have a.

1106
01:49:06.570 --> 01:49:08.220
Daffodil Tyminski: lot more visually digestible.

1107
01:49:08.760 --> 01:49:10.440
jim murez: yeah I agree.

1108
01:49:11.550 --> 01:49:13.050
jim murez: um do we have.

1109
01:49:14.190 --> 01:49:15.510
jim murez: A maker of the motion.

1110
01:49:16.290 --> 01:49:17.880
Daffodil Tyminski: it's definitely I will make the motion.

1111
01:49:18.330 --> 01:49:20.070
jim murez: Okay, do we have a second here.

1112
01:49:20.790 --> 01:49:22.170
Miguel Bravo: I will second Mike.

1113
01:49:23.580 --> 01:49:24.780
jim murez: Thank you.

1114
01:49:26.100 --> 01:49:27.600
jim murez: Know do we have public comment.

1115
01:49:28.260 --> 01:49:28.950
Daffodil Tyminski: We do.

1116
01:49:31.230 --> 01:49:32.160
Daffodil Tyminski: cj go ahead.

1117
01:49:34.050 --> 01:49:51.570
CJ Cole: Okay, I am was under the understanding that the discussion forum was not able to bring motions to the board that they were just a discussion group and that they were not able to do such a emotion.

1118
01:49:52.830 --> 01:49:56.670
CJ Cole: And I think that's in the Standing roles somewhere.

1119
01:50:02.760 --> 01:50:03.480
CJ Cole: i'm finished.

1120
01:50:06.930 --> 01:50:07.890
jim murez: Ivan can you.

1121
01:50:08.880 --> 01:50:12.930
Ivan: comment on that Well, I can I don't remember that.

1122
01:50:14.940 --> 01:50:17.040
Ivan: I mean we'll go back 10 years here.

1123
01:50:20.040 --> 01:50:27.150
jim murez: Well, the discussion, the discussion forum is an ad hoc committee is it.

1124
01:50:27.180 --> 01:50:28.710
Ivan: Right yeah.

1125
01:50:29.100 --> 01:50:33.390
jim murez: It would be based on whatever the mission statement is that was.

1126
01:50:33.540 --> 01:50:42.750
jim murez: Alright, so the question is, is the mission statement state that the, the committee is not allowed to make.

1127
01:50:44.250 --> 01:50:46.320
jim murez: recommendations to the board, so I guess.

1128
01:50:46.350 --> 01:50:54.870
Daffodil Tyminski: Today, and guys i'm Paul David was a Co chair, I believe, is on I think he's a Co chair and he has his hand raised for public comments, so why don't we take.

1129
01:50:55.890 --> 01:50:57.660
Daffodil Tyminski: The public comment, and then we can debate.

1130
01:51:02.100 --> 01:51:02.550
Daffodil Tyminski: Hello.

1131
01:51:03.180 --> 01:51:03.840
jim murez: yeah go ahead.

1132
01:51:05.970 --> 01:51:07.110
jim murez: here's the mission statement.

1133
01:51:07.110 --> 01:51:10.590
Ivan: But you know what the mission statements don't appear anywhere.

1134
01:51:10.920 --> 01:51:11.190
Ivan: yeah.

1135
01:51:11.460 --> 01:51:14.070
jim murez: The agenda it's on it's on the committee page.

1136
01:51:14.070 --> 01:51:15.450
jim murez: i've got it on the screen.

1137
01:51:18.330 --> 01:51:18.720
jim murez: And and.

1138
01:51:18.960 --> 01:51:20.640
Daffodil Tyminski: Why don't you go ahead and make your comment.

1139
01:51:22.950 --> 01:51:24.330
Ivan: Okay um.

1140
01:51:25.680 --> 01:51:26.610
Ivan: Hello.

1141
01:51:26.820 --> 01:51:30.600
Daffodil Tyminski: yeah i've been hold on let's let's take public comment for some we'll have a discussion.

1142
01:51:32.460 --> 01:51:44.580
Paul Davis: yeah this is Paul Davis um so, the fact is that i'm not aware of any any bylaws or aspects of our Charter that do not allow us to make motions and the fact is, I think also that in the last.

1143
01:51:45.060 --> 01:51:51.510
Paul Davis: year so we've made several I would say, maybe three motions that have been approved and accepted and acted on so.

1144
01:51:52.530 --> 01:51:56.280
Paul Davis: we're not aware of anything that prevents us from making motions already precedent for that idea.

1145
01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:11.010
Paul Davis: We also I mean I think it's we feel like it's not a bad thing, and in fact it's good if we were able to have thoughts in our discussions about things that we might do to propose activities among ourselves and other stakeholders that can be a.

1146
01:52:11.010 --> 01:52:12.450
Paul Davis: benefit to the Community so we're.

1147
01:52:12.660 --> 01:52:16.620
Paul Davis: happy to make suggestions happy to make motions and we'd like to try to help out.

1148
01:52:18.810 --> 01:52:22.680
jim murez: Thank you, Paul, I have the mission statement on the screen and.

1149
01:52:22.740 --> 01:52:32.460
jim murez: And yeah other than what they're focusing on it doesn't say anything at all, I don't recall that I know that under high res 10 year on the board.

1150
01:52:34.140 --> 01:52:37.740
jim murez: Many times the the discussion forum would bring.

1151
01:52:37.740 --> 01:52:38.160
jim murez: motion.

1152
01:52:38.430 --> 01:52:43.710
melissa diner: made multiple motions, time and time again, your vision goals, be adopted, they definitely make.

1153
01:52:44.760 --> 01:52:51.060
jim murez: yep so I cj I respect your your recollection, but I think you're wrong on this one.

1154
01:52:51.060 --> 01:52:52.590
CJ Cole: Sorry, no problem.

1155
01:52:52.890 --> 01:52:57.330
jim murez: All right, put your hand down, please do devil do we have any other public comment.

1156
01:52:58.200 --> 01:53:00.330
Daffodil Tyminski: I know we do not, we can close public comment.

1157
01:53:00.690 --> 01:53:03.360
jim murez: Okay um do we have any committee comments.

1158
01:53:06.870 --> 01:53:10.410
jim murez: Okay let's take a quick vote.

1159
01:53:12.270 --> 01:53:16.170
jim murez: Well, do we have let's see what number is this think this was the last one to.

1160
01:53:17.640 --> 01:53:22.170
jim murez: This is 3131 do we have any no votes.

1161
01:53:23.850 --> 01:53:26.280
jim murez: Do we have any abstentions.

1162
01:53:27.300 --> 01:53:39.450
jim murez: So let's assume that everybody else said yes item 31 is going on the boards agenda and that concludes, making the.

1163
01:53:42.780 --> 01:53:50.460
jim murez: The draft board meeting so that finalizes that now we have to go back to the.

1164
01:53:51.750 --> 01:53:52.710
jim murez: outcome meetings.

1165
01:53:56.970 --> 01:54:00.630
jim murez: Where did that go the one where I put in left off here.

1166
01:54:03.180 --> 01:54:04.080
jim murez: i'm.

1167
01:54:06.930 --> 01:54:08.100
jim murez: left off here.

1168
01:54:10.020 --> 01:54:13.740
jim murez: So now we have to go back to I think what was that item hate.

1169
01:54:15.810 --> 01:54:17.370
jim murez: No farther than that.

1170
01:54:22.320 --> 01:54:32.160
jim murez: Okay, here we are consideration and approval of the June 21 okay Jay made the motion Jason seconded let's take a vote daffodil, how do you vote.

1171
01:54:32.880 --> 01:54:33.180
yeah.

1172
01:54:39.510 --> 01:54:47.100
jim murez: Oh, before I do that give me one second Melissa is now here, let me check her in so she can vote.

1173
01:54:56.160 --> 01:54:57.060
jim murez: Melissa, how do you vote.

1174
01:54:59.880 --> 01:55:00.360
jim murez: Melissa.

1175
01:55:01.920 --> 01:55:02.820
jim murez: I thought she was here.

1176
01:55:04.740 --> 01:55:05.490
melissa diner: I am here.

1177
01:55:05.850 --> 01:55:06.690
jim murez: Okay, how do you vote.

1178
01:55:09.120 --> 01:55:09.630
melissa diner: Yes.

1179
01:55:10.110 --> 01:55:11.850
jim murez: Thank you Jay, how do you vote.

1180
01:55:12.150 --> 01:55:12.600
Yes.

1181
01:55:14.010 --> 01:55:14.550
jim murez: Eco.

1182
01:55:20.400 --> 01:55:23.190
Nico Ruderman: NICO or yes please yeah Okay, thank you Jason.

1183
01:55:25.470 --> 01:55:26.700
jim murez: Thank you ellie.

1184
01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:29.100
jim murez: Yes, Mike.

1185
01:55:31.470 --> 01:55:32.220
Miguel Bravo: Yes.

1186
01:55:33.270 --> 01:55:34.860
jim murez: Thank you, and I will vote yes.

1187
01:55:36.900 --> 01:55:38.310
jim murez: Okay um.

1188
01:55:41.790 --> 01:55:44.400
jim murez: So now we are on to.

1189
01:55:45.960 --> 01:55:52.770
jim murez: board officer comments of items, not on the agenda does anybody want to make any additional comments now is your chance.

1190
01:55:56.340 --> 01:55:57.480
jim murez: Any hands.

1191
01:56:00.150 --> 01:56:04.800
jim murez: Elizabeth you can put your hand down, this is the time to speak sorry.

1192
01:56:07.980 --> 01:56:09.360
jim murez: Any board officers.

1193
01:56:12.450 --> 01:56:14.100
jim murez: Can I get a motion to.

1194
01:56:14.190 --> 01:56:15.210
Jay Handal: adjourn john.

1195
01:56:16.710 --> 01:56:19.050
jim murez: Jay made the motion to adjourn anybody want a second.

1196
01:56:19.050 --> 01:56:19.800
Nico Ruderman: Second NICO.

1197
01:56:20.460 --> 01:56:21.390
jim murez: NICO second of the.

1198
01:56:21.420 --> 01:56:25.530
jim murez: meeting is adjourned at 751.

1199
01:56:28.110 --> 01:56:28.530
jim murez: What.

1200
01:56:28.710 --> 01:56:30.180
Daffodil Tyminski: What was make her comment.

1201
01:56:31.170 --> 01:56:31.860
jim murez: Well yeah.

1202
01:56:32.400 --> 01:56:33.780
jim murez: Go ahead Liz make your comments.

1203
01:56:34.740 --> 01:56:48.060
Elizabeth Wright: Okay, I couldn't comment comment on it before because I didn't know they were going to be five or six additional items on the agenda, this is not good you've been in the administration for a year and you should have the act together.

1204
01:56:49.170 --> 01:56:50.460
Elizabeth Wright: Socially all the committee's.

1205
01:56:52.200 --> 01:56:56.790
jim murez: Elizabeth the purpose of the ad COM committee is.

1206
01:56:56.940 --> 01:57:02.310
jim murez: done is to make the agenda, which means that anytime before the meeting.

1207
01:57:02.730 --> 01:57:23.160
jim murez: Is started, we can continue to add items to the agenda, the purpose of this committee is just to make the agenda it's not to publicly notify the community of what's going to be on the boards agenda that happens as soon as this meeting is is published.

1208
01:57:24.210 --> 01:57:32.430
jim murez: And, and it becomes finalized, in other words the Minutes of this meeting tell the Community what's going to be on the boards agenda now.

1209
01:57:33.450 --> 01:57:37.230
jim murez: boards agenda itself doesn't actually have to be posted until Saturday.

1210
01:57:38.310 --> 01:57:46.170
jim murez: which gives me two days to get it together, and when we change the cycle time, so you understand where i'm coming from.

1211
01:57:46.830 --> 01:57:58.800
jim murez: from having to put items on the Ad COM Agenda two weeks before the board agenda we picked up 10 days of additional time for the committee's to be able to have time every month.

1212
01:57:59.520 --> 01:58:06.210
jim murez: To be able to get items on to the agenda for the board and that was a huge benefit to all of the committee's.

1213
01:58:06.870 --> 01:58:16.170
jim murez: because it gives them time to have meetings at the beginning of the month, and that that was a big change we did that several months ago and we've been doing it that way, all this year.

1214
01:58:17.070 --> 01:58:24.840
jim murez: And it started last year, so I can just tell you that I appreciate you not realizing that the change was made, but.

1215
01:58:24.900 --> 01:58:27.210
jim murez: we've been doing it this way, all along and.

1216
01:58:27.240 --> 01:58:42.750
jim murez: And the items that were put on were put on since I first published the draft, but now we have something that's more final and the final one will be going out before Saturday, so you will still have 72 hours to become aware of what's on the boards agenda.

1217
01:58:43.830 --> 01:58:44.280
Okay.

1218
01:58:46.950 --> 01:58:49.170
jim murez: Now we're concluded Thank you everyone.

1219
01:58:53.280 --> 01:58:54.150
Ivan: Are you still there.

1220
01:58:55.530 --> 01:58:55.770
Ivan: Hello.

1221
01:58:56.520 --> 01:58:57.960
jim murez: I think she's dropped off.

1222
01:58:59.520 --> 01:59:00.000
Ivan: Okay.

1223
01:59:02.220 --> 01:59:06.450
jim murez: Try try her on her phone, we do need to get those agenda applications up.

1224
01:59:06.990 --> 01:59:09.540
jim murez: yeah I was told that they were up but okay.

1225
01:59:10.650 --> 01:59:15.030
Ivan: No she sent me an email wanting questions.

1226
01:59:15.690 --> 01:59:16.020
jim murez: yeah.

1227
01:59:16.260 --> 01:59:17.220
Ivan: That hadn't related.

1228
01:59:17.280 --> 01:59:23.100
Ivan: To the crater and right jake pointed me towards something, but I haven't been able to get hold of her so.

1229
01:59:23.220 --> 01:59:25.290
jim murez: Okay, all right, she just got off of an airplane.

1230
01:59:25.680 --> 01:59:26.640
Ivan: I understand.

1231
01:59:26.880 --> 01:59:28.200
jim murez: All right, thanks Ivan.

1232
01:59:28.500 --> 01:59:29.940
jim murez: bye bye bye.

1233
01:59:30.720 --> 01:59:31.260
hi.