WEBVTT 1 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:48.270 jim murez: Can you hear me. 2 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:52.230 jim murez: yeah okay good now my microphone microphone was not working. 3 00:02:30.660 --> 00:02:31.860 Jay Handal: Good evening everybody. 4 00:02:32.790 --> 00:02:34.260 jim murez: Good evening Jay how are you. 5 00:04:49.980 --> 00:04:56.820 jim murez: person who's telephone ends in 972 is on the committee, please raise your hand that would be starting on. 6 00:05:01.020 --> 00:05:01.470 jim murez: haha. 7 00:05:03.300 --> 00:05:05.250 jim murez: Who is that, who is that. 8 00:05:07.980 --> 00:05:12.030 jim murez: 972. 9 00:05:14.880 --> 00:05:15.780 Helen: highest selling. 10 00:05:16.710 --> 00:05:17.580 jim murez: Oh okay. 11 00:05:18.960 --> 00:05:22.530 jim murez: See I don't know that I can promote you to panelists, though. 12 00:05:25.440 --> 00:05:29.190 Helen: don't have an eye and I asked for some sort of ID that I don't know what i'd have. 13 00:05:31.320 --> 00:05:35.310 jim murez: yeah I guess you're calling in on a telephone I don't think that I can make you a. 14 00:05:35.370 --> 00:05:36.630 jim murez: gamble panelists. 15 00:05:37.140 --> 00:05:42.090 jim murez: you're you're you're allowed to speak, but you don't have. 16 00:05:44.310 --> 00:05:45.120 jim murez: You don't have. 17 00:05:45.210 --> 00:05:45.750 Helen: All right, just. 18 00:05:45.810 --> 00:05:49.170 Helen: call on me, I mean yeah just call on me and I just remember to. 19 00:05:50.820 --> 00:05:59.400 Helen: See if i'm hoping to get onto i'm hoping to get onto the computer that i'm borrowing my daughters and it timed out on me, so I don't know her password I was all set up to go. 20 00:06:00.990 --> 00:06:03.120 Helen: And I don't know that she's going to get back to me so. 21 00:06:05.460 --> 00:06:06.840 Jay Handal: hate when that happens. 22 00:06:08.010 --> 00:06:16.500 Helen: yeah no it's it's well i'm back East and so she dropped off her laptop and went home and they're in the middle of a move, so I think she might have gone to bed early. 23 00:06:18.780 --> 00:06:20.280 Helen: And it's 10 o'clock here so. 24 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:23.130 jim murez: So Jay we can start whenever you're ready. 25 00:06:23.430 --> 00:06:23.940 Jay Handal: we're ready. 26 00:06:23.970 --> 00:06:24.510 Jay Handal: So. 27 00:06:24.810 --> 00:06:36.630 Jay Handal: Good evening everybody, thank you for taking the time out during this week, as everyone knows, it's been quite a tale of getting things done in a short period of time. 28 00:06:38.130 --> 00:06:46.410 Jay Handal: So we'll do a roll call real quick, it appears, we have myself James i've been adapted Ellen Ellen here. 29 00:06:47.910 --> 00:06:50.430 jim murez: yeah let me check these off. 30 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:55.920 jim murez: And Ivan very good. 31 00:06:57.360 --> 00:07:01.530 Jay Handal: Is there anyone else who has joined that i've not. 32 00:07:03.780 --> 00:07:05.430 Jay Handal: Basically schema are you here. 33 00:07:07.110 --> 00:07:08.550 jim murez: So i'm just looking. 34 00:07:09.150 --> 00:07:10.020 jim murez: See was not. 35 00:07:10.050 --> 00:07:11.070 jim murez: seem as not here now. 36 00:07:11.250 --> 00:07:20.040 Jay Handal: We did talk earliest she said she was coming but she's not here Okay, I remember for review monthly expenditure report. 37 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:35.250 Jay Handal: You know me ours are always easy for me to say you know, this is what it is because the city doesn't they just pay the bills and you know we really don't have a whole lot of say in the me ours. 38 00:07:36.540 --> 00:07:41.790 Jay Handal: So I would send this on to the board with approval to. 39 00:07:42.870 --> 00:07:46.260 Jay Handal: move the me, ours is there any objection to that. 40 00:07:50.640 --> 00:07:52.410 Jay Handal: Anybody want to abstain from that. 41 00:07:56.670 --> 00:08:00.450 Jay Handal: Then that'll go 500 Item number five is a fine. 42 00:08:00.450 --> 00:08:03.870 jim murez: New excuse me Jay do we need to have a maker, and a second or on that. 43 00:08:05.790 --> 00:08:11.580 Jay Handal: The maker can be the committee which is fine, I can take a second from somebody. 44 00:08:12.900 --> 00:08:15.240 jim murez: So i'll make the motion can we get a second. 45 00:08:16.140 --> 00:08:16.350 yeah. 46 00:08:18.090 --> 00:08:18.750 jim murez: Who was. 47 00:08:20.070 --> 00:08:21.300 Helen: Telling on second. 48 00:08:21.660 --> 00:08:24.000 Ivan: Alright, so we got Jim and Helen and again. 49 00:08:24.570 --> 00:08:25.830 Jay Handal: We went five oh. 50 00:08:29.700 --> 00:08:30.630 jim murez: Great look. 51 00:08:30.870 --> 00:08:36.330 Jay Handal: let's go to Item number five and I haven't called public comment because I don't see any public. 52 00:08:37.560 --> 00:08:39.300 jim murez: So hold on a second. 53 00:08:39.870 --> 00:08:41.670 jim murez: i'm trying to do two things at once here. 54 00:08:42.150 --> 00:08:46.140 Daffodil Tyminski: We do have three members of the public on, although there are no hands raised. 55 00:08:46.560 --> 00:08:47.760 jim murez: Oh good Thank you daffodil. 56 00:08:48.330 --> 00:08:53.880 Jay Handal: So anybody public as we go item by item, if you have a question, please raise your hand. 57 00:08:56.220 --> 00:08:58.920 Daffodil Tyminski: Actually Helen is one of the three so we really just have to. 58 00:09:01.110 --> 00:09:04.860 Helen: Have a question that I guess i'll ask it when we get to the discussion. 59 00:09:06.090 --> 00:09:07.680 Jay Handal: The discussion of which. 60 00:09:08.910 --> 00:09:10.140 Helen: Item number five. 61 00:09:10.740 --> 00:09:12.870 Jay Handal: Okay we're going diamond five now, thank you. 62 00:09:13.020 --> 00:09:16.680 jim murez: So i'll make i'll make the motion, so we can start the discussion. 63 00:09:17.250 --> 00:09:18.930 Jay Handal: Do I have a second on that motion. 64 00:09:21.450 --> 00:09:22.740 Daffodil Tyminski: It staff at the last second it. 65 00:09:23.340 --> 00:09:24.090 Jay Handal: So right. 66 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.030 Jay Handal: comments by the board Helen. 67 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:34.950 Helen: yeah I have a question, how can we review the final budget and financial numbers, we don't have the June Mer we don't have the final final numbers. 68 00:09:35.640 --> 00:09:36.810 Helen: So premature. 69 00:09:37.140 --> 00:09:39.630 Jay Handal: Well, no, because I haven't given you the numbers yet. 70 00:09:40.980 --> 00:09:41.760 Jay Handal: Based well. 71 00:09:41.820 --> 00:09:43.530 Helen: He hasn't come out with their numbers yeah. 72 00:09:43.560 --> 00:09:44.130 Helen: Okay i'm. 73 00:09:44.280 --> 00:09:49.680 Jay Handal: Know i'm going to give you the final numbers, based on the treasurer's report that we have now. 74 00:09:51.570 --> 00:09:55.020 Jay Handal: We have spent all on loney down to about 78 cents. 75 00:09:56.730 --> 00:10:01.830 Jay Handal: And, assuming that everything that we've sent into the city gets processed. 76 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:09.630 Jay Handal: We will end up with 78 cents left from this fiscal year and we will have. 77 00:10:11.040 --> 00:10:24.210 Jay Handal: $10,000 in a rollover for next year, which is in the admin Pack that was approved by the board at the last meeting so other than that, when I talk about final numbers and financial recap. 78 00:10:25.380 --> 00:10:30.630 Jay Handal: Yes, we'll get a final me are some time in the beginning of July. 79 00:10:31.680 --> 00:10:41.160 Jay Handal: But just giving everybody, this is not something we need to vote on tonight, this is justin and administrative here's what's happening with your money. 80 00:10:42.060 --> 00:10:55.860 Jay Handal: And that is that we were able to spend it all down and not give the city back any money, assuming that they process everything we have put into them to process and the good. 81 00:10:56.190 --> 00:11:01.710 Helen: Are you going to be providing the board with a financial statement or some numbers something supporting documents. 82 00:11:03.420 --> 00:11:16.320 Jay Handal: You will have the mere the M er that you just that we just approved to go to the board for May, and I will be happy to take that excel sheet that we had at the last meeting. 83 00:11:17.130 --> 00:11:34.080 Jay Handal: and send it in again for everyone to look at to see where the expenditures are and how much money was left over, and then enjoying in July we'll get the final m er and that'll be the number that you'll get a final report on. 84 00:11:35.760 --> 00:11:42.900 Helen: You know I just like to suggest that there'd be a supplemental document attached to this so that's the proxy what the numbers are that you arrived at that's all sure. 85 00:11:42.930 --> 00:11:47.130 Jay Handal: Not a problem easy enough, we have that great. 86 00:11:48.270 --> 00:11:54.750 Jay Handal: So it's not something we need to vote on, you know it's just to let you guys know where we're at you know we've rushed really hard. 87 00:11:55.830 --> 00:12:10.320 Jay Handal: The the school's npg was approved and that's gone through and all the other documents, all the other expenditures that were approved by the board had been filed with the city. 88 00:12:11.370 --> 00:12:18.360 Jay Handal: The city actually was nice enough to give us until Monday five o'clock in cases any hiccups. 89 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:31.200 Jay Handal: So we'll see if they come back with any nitpicking you can't do this, you can't do that I needed to look different I need something done different you never know I mean that's what i'm going through with West la right now. 90 00:12:32.670 --> 00:12:40.410 Jay Handal: So far I haven't had any of that on our stuff here and God willing, we won't so I won't have to deal with it. 91 00:12:41.070 --> 00:12:43.890 jim murez: Okay, I just wanted to mention Sema are you here. 92 00:12:46.110 --> 00:12:47.310 jim murez: see my mute yourself. 93 00:12:47.400 --> 00:12:48.630 Sima: Yes, yes, yes i'm here. 94 00:12:48.930 --> 00:12:49.440 jim murez: Thank you. 95 00:12:50.850 --> 00:12:51.300 jim murez: Thank you. 96 00:12:52.590 --> 00:12:55.500 Jay Handal: awesome so we do have the whole committee here. 97 00:12:55.950 --> 00:12:56.850 jim murez: Yes, everyone's here. 98 00:12:57.270 --> 00:13:00.510 Jay Handal: Okay, so Item number six. 99 00:13:00.750 --> 00:13:03.000 jim murez: What were we doing with five are we taking a vote on that. 100 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:05.640 Jay Handal: don't vote there's no vote it's just informational. 101 00:13:06.030 --> 00:13:06.540 jim murez: Okay. 102 00:13:06.780 --> 00:13:08.820 Jay Handal: it's strictly informational alright. 103 00:13:10.680 --> 00:13:11.670 jim murez: Item six. 104 00:13:11.880 --> 00:13:17.520 Jay Handal: So item six is a discussion and possible action regarding funding policies and procedures. 105 00:13:19.170 --> 00:13:33.930 Jay Handal: And we're looking to send something through the board to approve the policies and procedures regarding funding policies procedures as a standing rule such a procedure would be considered by the rules and selection committee to be adopted so. 106 00:13:35.790 --> 00:13:45.330 Jay Handal: This and number seven kind of tied together, so I just sent Jim I sent you an email not too long ago with a bunch of links in it. 107 00:13:45.690 --> 00:13:49.980 Jay Handal: Okay, I went back through the history of Venice neighborhood Council. 108 00:13:50.400 --> 00:14:05.790 Jay Handal: yeah and I was able to come up with the rules, you guys actually used to have for spending which broke out timelines and conditions of how much money people could apply for and everything else. 109 00:14:06.540 --> 00:14:12.000 Jay Handal: And I sent you an email and ask you, because I don't really have everybody's email on this committee. 110 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:17.310 Jay Handal: Okay, so if you could forward that to everybody to look at that would be helpful. 111 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:19.440 jim murez: That now. 112 00:14:19.710 --> 00:14:25.830 Jay Handal: there's well when you can I mean when we're not going to vote on it tonight i'd like to vote on it and June. 113 00:14:26.220 --> 00:14:31.320 Jay Handal: Okay, but it basically what i'm recommending is we re adopt. 114 00:14:32.730 --> 00:14:48.480 Jay Handal: We policies and procedures that Venice neighborhood Council I had for years Okay, and then, once they're adopted it'll be up to admin and you guys to figure out who will actually do the vetting of. 115 00:14:50.040 --> 00:14:52.830 Jay Handal: NP g's and CIPS and. 116 00:14:54.810 --> 00:15:05.670 Jay Handal: and bring it to the board so and that's a whole nother discussion, but I think first and foremost, you want to get the policies and procedures back in place so when not at the end of May. 117 00:15:06.420 --> 00:15:10.560 Jay Handal: You know, putting out things to the general public, saying hey we got money let's just spend it. 118 00:15:11.370 --> 00:15:19.110 Jay Handal: You know this is not going to be that big a deal because we don't have that much money to spend any way when you look at the budget as it was originally done. 119 00:15:19.920 --> 00:15:29.220 Jay Handal: So, having said that this is this is something to build a platform for the future, so there's no doubt of how things are supposed to work. 120 00:15:29.910 --> 00:15:37.500 Jay Handal: And, once this goes into place and admin and the board approves the procedure itself of who will do the work. 121 00:15:38.490 --> 00:15:57.810 Jay Handal: Then we we meaning, ultimately, the Venice neighborhood Council in the long run, should not have any of these issues to deal with again, this should be very simple and that's obviously assuming you get a treasure and you know who is it treasure and does the work so. 122 00:15:58.890 --> 00:16:08.100 Jay Handal: Anyway, Jim if you could forward that to everybody, I would like to table the emotion on this until last table why postpone emotion on this. 123 00:16:08.610 --> 00:16:19.470 Jay Handal: until the next Budget Committee meeting when we can hash that out, and if we approve it get it to the next board meeting and get it in place to the next fiscal year. 124 00:16:20.220 --> 00:16:20.730 Okay. 125 00:16:21.900 --> 00:16:23.460 Helen: So I am the question. 126 00:16:23.760 --> 00:16:24.270 Helen: You can. 127 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:25.620 Jay Handal: You can ask to. 128 00:16:25.650 --> 00:16:32.220 Helen: What one thing stagers written prior to this city clerk taking over a great deal of the. 129 00:16:32.850 --> 00:16:35.550 Helen: You know, rules and funding rule. 130 00:16:35.760 --> 00:16:45.660 Jay Handal: These were written in 2013 and I read through them and they all actually conform to the funding rules. 131 00:16:47.670 --> 00:16:48.060 Ivan: yeah. 132 00:16:49.980 --> 00:16:53.190 Helen: Budget and finance ultimately responsible for reviewing everything. 133 00:16:53.880 --> 00:16:59.340 Jay Handal: So that that's it that's it hold on hold on that that's a whole nother discussion. 134 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:14.460 Jay Handal: And, as I said, what i'd like to do is in, and we can agenda is that also in the June me assuming we vote in June to approve the policies and procedures, we can then between now and then come up with. 135 00:17:14.940 --> 00:17:23.010 Jay Handal: How it gets implemented, the first thing is what are you going to implement, then the second thing is how does that get implemented. 136 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:32.370 Jay Handal: So, to put the cart before the horse doesn't work and I prefer that we actually get policies and procedures in place. 137 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:48.180 Jay Handal: And once you have that then the group can decide who actually looks at is it an administrator Is it the budget team, is it the treasurer who doesn't matter to me it's something what you guys want to do. 138 00:17:48.810 --> 00:18:03.330 Jay Handal: I just want to codify it so that in the future, you know, there is, I would love to see personally an email address you know it says funding at Venice neighborhood council.org. 139 00:18:03.780 --> 00:18:14.640 Jay Handal: or grants, at whatever and everybody be steered you have to submit it electronically, and you have to submit it here, and it has to be by this date, and it can only be about this amount. 140 00:18:15.060 --> 00:18:24.660 Jay Handal: And these are the documents you have to have to do it and if all that's in place, I don't care if it's a treasure me you Ivan Jim. 141 00:18:25.740 --> 00:18:32.310 Jay Handal: daffodil anyone will be able to look at it know the rules and decide whether or not it should be move forward. 142 00:18:35.310 --> 00:18:36.690 Jay Handal: And you won't waste a lot of time. 143 00:18:37.020 --> 00:18:49.380 jim murez: So i'll get i'll get the the information that you sent to me sent out to the rest of the committee and and you mentioned that you wanted to do this in the June meeting we're in the June meeting I think you made the July meeting. 144 00:18:49.560 --> 00:18:50.850 Jay Handal: i'm sorry the July meeting. 145 00:18:51.030 --> 00:18:51.570 jim murez: Okay, good. 146 00:18:51.600 --> 00:18:54.030 Jay Handal: i'm brain dead it's been i've been up since five. 147 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:54.660 Okay. 148 00:18:56.130 --> 00:18:57.270 Ivan: Okay, can I. 149 00:18:57.690 --> 00:19:00.810 Jay Handal: drop in here Ivan and then Lisa. 150 00:19:01.890 --> 00:19:13.560 Ivan: Alright, so actually the application was written around 2007 or 2008 it had to be updated every year because the date change. 151 00:19:14.610 --> 00:19:15.270 Ivan: calendar. 152 00:19:15.570 --> 00:19:21.270 Ivan: So what you have is is pretty much the last version of it, which was 2013. 153 00:19:23.130 --> 00:19:23.610 Ivan: The. 154 00:19:24.930 --> 00:19:33.330 Ivan: that's only half the application there's another five or six pages that are the actual application, this was just the rules. 155 00:19:34.830 --> 00:19:48.390 Ivan: All right, so i'm gonna i'm still looking for that i'll have to get that to you, but people need to see that before they start making any kind of comments on this because it's explained a lot more in the actual application. 156 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:55.320 Jay Handal: Right, so, if you look on just Ivan for a second, if you look at the document that I sent. 157 00:19:56.340 --> 00:20:04.110 Jay Handal: I actually whited out the year dates and the day and date, so the month. 158 00:20:04.410 --> 00:20:16.290 Jay Handal: yeah and the year can be filled in and it's a document that could be used, moving forward, so I know I know that it's an older document that had all old dates so that's been eliminated by white out. 159 00:20:17.820 --> 00:20:29.910 Jay Handal: And as far as you know, an application itself the NP geez or the MP geez the only application people fill out for an mpg is the mpg that's the city document. 160 00:20:30.750 --> 00:20:39.210 Jay Handal: Community improvement projects to document that I sent out there's another doctors for documents in the email, I sent. 161 00:20:39.900 --> 00:20:57.270 Jay Handal: And one of them is about Community improvement projects and it basically tells you what you have to do and what you have to say and how you have to have it done so, if you have an application itself for Community improvement project that's great if not we can develop one pretty quickly. 162 00:20:58.710 --> 00:21:10.530 Jay Handal: But other than that application, I personally believe that everything else you need is there to be able to adopt full so peace to be able to move forward. 163 00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:13.830 Jay Handal: Lisa. 164 00:21:14.070 --> 00:21:31.980 Ivan: What what what i'm trying to tell you is the application card is things that people have to fill out, including the contract page for for board members to sign and stuff I mean all of that is that what follows these rules, this was like the introduction. 165 00:21:32.520 --> 00:21:32.850 Jay Handal: Right. 166 00:21:33.270 --> 00:21:35.340 Jay Handal: And Okay, you can find that you know. 167 00:21:35.370 --> 00:21:36.480 i'm sure someone has yeah. 168 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:45.630 Ivan: I don't know if I have a blank but i'm sure I have some of the old application set can be whited out or whatever. 169 00:21:46.110 --> 00:21:47.640 Ivan: yeah if you get. 170 00:21:47.940 --> 00:21:49.710 Jay Handal: If you get one, and so we can do. 171 00:21:49.710 --> 00:21:54.630 Jay Handal: yeah even set it up on docusign and have people seven links. 172 00:21:55.560 --> 00:22:04.050 Ivan: Okay, and yay yeah um I realized this is going back, but I need to go back to number five. 173 00:22:05.070 --> 00:22:19.680 Ivan: We can do it now or or near the end of the meeting, but it's a thing for emotion there, and you, you have to remove that or entering going to show up in our Minutes whatever to approve the final recap. 174 00:22:19.980 --> 00:22:22.200 jim murez: He passed on it. 175 00:22:22.890 --> 00:22:24.090 Ivan: So i'm saying. 176 00:22:24.420 --> 00:22:26.640 Jay Handal: When I already moved to postpone it. 177 00:22:28.200 --> 00:22:28.620 Ivan: Okay. 178 00:22:29.850 --> 00:22:31.530 jim murez: So i'll just put that in here. 179 00:22:32.550 --> 00:22:35.760 Ivan: All right, yeah because going back and looking at it, we need to know what. 180 00:22:35.760 --> 00:22:47.130 Jay Handal: happened yeah we did we did that postpone it so so as far as the budget and and policies and procedures in everyone on the call, let me stop Lisa go ahead. 181 00:22:52.770 --> 00:22:54.960 Jay Handal: somebody like Lisa redmond speak. 182 00:22:57.540 --> 00:22:58.110 jim murez: yep. 183 00:22:58.650 --> 00:23:00.300 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm not I don't have the ability to do that. 184 00:23:00.570 --> 00:23:02.760 jim murez: Sorry, I can fix that too. 185 00:23:05.010 --> 00:23:09.990 jim murez: um Lisa allowed to speak daffodil. 186 00:23:11.700 --> 00:23:23.370 Lisa Redmond: yeah actually I had my hand up at five and then get called on, but Helen pretty much asked what I was going to ask at that time was that it's hard to you know. 187 00:23:24.540 --> 00:23:30.030 Lisa Redmond: nobody's going to look at 12 months worth of mers hands would be nice to have a running tab. 188 00:23:31.320 --> 00:23:34.800 Lisa Redmond: Within up to all the updated numbers, so thank you doing that. 189 00:23:36.300 --> 00:23:50.370 Lisa Redmond: And yeah really wasn't a postpone motion, I guess, since you did call me regarding six and seven, the bigger question is, why did all the sudden that things get stopped getting used after 2013 but that's not anything, maybe. 190 00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:51.750 Jay Handal: Anyone can have no idea. 191 00:23:52.980 --> 00:23:55.680 Lisa Redmond: yeah I know you can't answer that Jay it's just a. 192 00:23:57.120 --> 00:23:58.740 Lisa Redmond: that's an interesting thought. 193 00:23:58.890 --> 00:24:01.500 Ivan: Well, I have, we have to, but you may not want to hear. 194 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:07.560 Jay Handal: Okay it's a moot point and and we're going to move down, you can take it offline with her and tell her whatever you want. 195 00:24:08.550 --> 00:24:17.130 Jay Handal: Right okay so so six we're going to do it the next meeting, so that that item. 196 00:24:18.150 --> 00:24:23.130 Jay Handal: Is is also postponed until the next meeting. 197 00:24:30.870 --> 00:24:39.120 Jay Handal: But please everybody when you get email from Jim please read it, and anyone who has any questions, please feel free to email me. 198 00:24:39.690 --> 00:24:48.390 Jay Handal: i'm happy to answer any questions you have so Item number seven is to establish a procedure to vet all budget and funding items. 199 00:24:48.870 --> 00:24:54.930 Jay Handal: to board the board to approve of procedure to address how items are better by the budget and Finance Committee. 200 00:24:55.860 --> 00:25:13.620 Jay Handal: Try to any board action, such a procedure would be considered by the rules and selection committee to be adopted into deviancy standing rules, so the motion would be all financial items must be vetted by budget and Finance Committee prior to being placed on a dmc board agenda. 201 00:25:14.310 --> 00:25:15.990 Ivan: The purpose of make that motion. 202 00:25:16.230 --> 00:25:19.170 Jay Handal: Okay, so moved by Ivan. 203 00:25:19.650 --> 00:25:21.120 jim murez: yeah and GMO second. 204 00:25:22.110 --> 00:25:36.210 Jay Handal: So just so everyone on the call knows the reason for such a meeting such emotion is so that someone can't just decide Oh, my friend has a great idea, and he needs $2,000 i'm going to take it right to the board. 205 00:25:37.260 --> 00:25:48.750 Jay Handal: doesn't matter who you are you can't do that it's got to go through policy and procedure and that's the whole purpose of this particular item Lisa your hand is still up is that on. 206 00:25:49.740 --> 00:25:51.420 Lisa Redmond: just put it up again yep. 207 00:25:51.510 --> 00:25:52.050 Jay Handal: Go for it. 208 00:25:52.560 --> 00:25:53.790 Lisa Redmond: um alright so. 209 00:25:55.050 --> 00:26:02.100 Lisa Redmond: Is this no emotion that's going to go directly to the board, or is this now we're creating new scanning rules so it's going to go to the rules and selections committee. 210 00:26:02.280 --> 00:26:03.840 Jay Handal: Rules and selections committee. 211 00:26:04.350 --> 00:26:04.800 Lisa Redmond: Thank you. 212 00:26:05.280 --> 00:26:06.480 Jay Handal: Thank you devin new. 213 00:26:07.590 --> 00:26:24.690 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, I was curious a has this happened before, and be um How does this affect what happens typically with outreach where budget will approve say as a general expenditure and then outreach then approves actually the spending. 214 00:26:25.830 --> 00:26:26.280 Jay Handal: So. 215 00:26:26.370 --> 00:26:29.370 Daffodil Tyminski: I have to go back to budget before it goes back to outreach i'm wondering what. 216 00:26:29.760 --> 00:26:35.310 Jay Handal: So if you have an outreach line item in the budget. 217 00:26:36.810 --> 00:26:37.440 Jay Handal: Okay. 218 00:26:38.730 --> 00:26:51.690 Jay Handal: Then it just goes to the board to be approved because it's already in it's a budget line item and it's really already approved so according to the city and I had this conversation with them today. 219 00:26:52.950 --> 00:26:57.570 Jay Handal: Any outreach item that is not specifically spelled out. 220 00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:01.890 Jay Handal: In the annual budget packet. 221 00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:12.510 Jay Handal: And when I say specifically spelled out let's say 50 $400 to phantom printing for postcards. 222 00:27:14.610 --> 00:27:36.210 Jay Handal: If it's not specifically spelled out it's already been passed in the budget in packet that you have that packet you have that amount of money so that should go directly to the board for a final approval to expedite that outreach program if it's not a line item in the budget. 223 00:27:37.320 --> 00:27:50.610 Jay Handal: Then it should go to the Budget Committee for funding, so what this does is it really makes the committee's do their committee work in advance. 224 00:27:51.690 --> 00:27:55.470 Jay Handal: And not do last minute rush spending. 225 00:27:57.300 --> 00:28:07.650 Jay Handal: You know it's really it's a budget, you know, and this this neighborhood Council, like every neighborhood Council the gets 32,000 plus the 10 grand. 226 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:17.250 Jay Handal: should be operating under the procedures that we're not just rushing to give away money or to spend money you know every committee should have a plan. 227 00:28:17.940 --> 00:28:30.510 Jay Handal: And that plan should be approved by the committee now example if the alleys committee comes together and says i'm going to do two postcards this year to everybody in Venice. 228 00:28:30.870 --> 00:28:47.610 Jay Handal: And I checked with the printer and the postage, and this is how much money, it has to be well if there's a line item in there for our needs to cover that amount of money, then the Committee should just go to the board at the beginning of the year and say we're going to do to postcards. 229 00:28:48.750 --> 00:28:52.380 Jay Handal: postcards don't necessarily have to be the postcard for. 230 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:58.980 Jay Handal: come to our meetings it couldn't be oh my God, we have an emergency town hall and we're going to do a postcard. 231 00:29:01.320 --> 00:29:04.470 Jay Handal: So once you've approved it, you have good. 232 00:29:04.500 --> 00:29:13.350 Jay Handal: So, really, the committee should put a budget together every committee should put their budget together at the beginning of the fiscal year based on the admin package. 233 00:29:14.040 --> 00:29:21.810 Jay Handal: and try and fit that into their budget so that the board can approve it in advance, you never have to go back to the board. 234 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:23.550 Daffodil Tyminski: Okay. 235 00:29:24.810 --> 00:29:28.950 Daffodil Tyminski: And again, I was just curious has have we had a problem with this, I don't remember anyone. 236 00:29:30.810 --> 00:29:34.500 Daffodil Tyminski: Like with something driving this change or this was just a housekeeping issue. 237 00:29:36.120 --> 00:29:37.110 i'm not aware of it. 238 00:29:39.030 --> 00:29:40.740 Helen: it's the City policy. 239 00:29:41.850 --> 00:29:52.230 Helen: that's what it that's what he's talking about the City policy specifically says any items that they have to be specified, just because you have a pot of money designated outreach. 240 00:29:52.680 --> 00:30:00.060 Helen: doesn't mean that you can just go and spend it on whatever because you don't have you it's just a pot of money. 241 00:30:00.330 --> 00:30:01.440 Daffodil Tyminski: No, I understand. 242 00:30:03.120 --> 00:30:04.380 Helen: And that's the rules, I mean. 243 00:30:05.730 --> 00:30:06.120 Helen: Basic. 244 00:30:07.770 --> 00:30:08.340 Helen: policy. 245 00:30:08.610 --> 00:30:18.330 Jay Handal: that's not her question, though, the question is Has anybody brought things to the board, without going through budget and finance in the past. 246 00:30:19.080 --> 00:30:19.770 Ivan: They tried. 247 00:30:20.760 --> 00:30:21.210 Okay. 248 00:30:22.260 --> 00:30:22.620 Jay Handal: Okay. 249 00:30:22.740 --> 00:30:29.220 jim murez: I don't think it's ever actually come up at the board, though I think people have tried to put things on but I don't think it's ever actually come before. 250 00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:32.700 Daffodil Tyminski: I guess, maybe, let me ask the question a different way is this a rule that the. 251 00:30:32.700 --> 00:30:39.390 Daffodil Tyminski: city is asking us to adopt or did something happened that is making us want to do it i'm just curious. 252 00:30:39.450 --> 00:30:48.480 Jay Handal: This is an internal procedure, does it not a city policy, this is an internal procedure you know it's part of the organizational chart. 253 00:30:49.140 --> 00:31:00.540 Jay Handal: That you want to build for your neighborhood Council, how does the Council run what is budget and finance do what does outreach do what does community do what does whatever do. 254 00:31:01.020 --> 00:31:10.260 Jay Handal: You know, and how does that flow within the organizational structure well anything that has to do with money is the budget and Finance Committee. 255 00:31:11.130 --> 00:31:11.460 Daffodil Tyminski: hmm. 256 00:31:11.700 --> 00:31:22.830 Jay Handal: It says that simple so nothing should be just rushed to the board, because you have to find out is there money in the category, was it already scheduled, you know. 257 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:35.940 Jay Handal: Can it be done, you know, is it feasible has anyone looked at it, to ensure that the money they're asking for the project, they want to actually get done in the time frame, according to the rules. 258 00:31:36.330 --> 00:31:42.240 Daffodil Tyminski: Right, no, I understand I understand why a rule like this would be helpful, I just was curious as to what this was. 259 00:31:42.420 --> 00:32:02.490 Jay Handal: It just eliminates any he said she said down the line in any bad blood, you know that may pop up because you're just doing that to me because he's my friend, or whatever you know it's just a good policy to have i'm trying to bring best practices to the budget and finance group. 260 00:32:02.520 --> 00:32:04.020 Jay Handal: gotcha that's all. 261 00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:06.210 Daffodil Tyminski: that's Okay, thank you. 262 00:32:06.330 --> 00:32:07.860 jim murez: see my house her hand up also. 263 00:32:08.250 --> 00:32:08.820 Jay Handal: Go for it. 264 00:32:09.750 --> 00:32:16.530 Sima: hi okay so um if i'm a human in the past, the only time that. 265 00:32:17.820 --> 00:32:26.520 Sima: As an executive committee Member we've ever gone outside of budget in a money situation where we go in front of the board. 266 00:32:26.850 --> 00:32:33.570 Sima: Is if the timing doesn't work out like, for example, the month, you know before our budget meetings were the first Tuesday. 267 00:32:34.020 --> 00:32:45.990 Sima: of every month right because we tried to line it up with ag calm and then our board meetings so, for example, if something comes through I or daft or any member of the Executive Committee. 268 00:32:46.410 --> 00:33:05.430 Sima: can submit a budget item to the board, am I wrong or, rather, to add calm and then it goes in front of the board so that's been my understanding and i've only been on the board, since I was a 2019 so these rules were, in effect, prior to me coming in. 269 00:33:06.840 --> 00:33:07.920 Ivan: Am I understanding this. 270 00:33:08.130 --> 00:33:10.800 Ivan: piece probably not understanding it right. 271 00:33:11.520 --> 00:33:13.740 Sima: Okay, so hold on, let me, let me. 272 00:33:15.540 --> 00:33:22.890 Ivan: Say that are different from most of the other items, because you have a big chunk of money. 273 00:33:22.950 --> 00:33:25.290 Ivan: In the bank already written into a budget. 274 00:33:25.710 --> 00:33:29.040 Ivan: Right this almost happened to us. 275 00:33:30.210 --> 00:33:38.370 Ivan: Just a couple of months ago we had $40,000 in applications for Community and improvement and then PG. 276 00:33:39.780 --> 00:33:46.620 Ivan: right if that had gone right to the board, who was gonna say wait a minute we don't have dollars. 277 00:33:47.190 --> 00:33:50.010 Sima: i'm not talking about a situation like that i'm like i'm just thinking. 278 00:33:50.010 --> 00:33:51.810 Ivan: Of what that was for. 279 00:33:52.140 --> 00:34:07.830 Ivan: Okay committee is not supposed to be getting items on the merits it's supposed to be vetting items on the numbers How much money do we have left what line item by line item should it be coming out of and that's what goes to the board. 280 00:34:09.060 --> 00:34:09.930 Ivan: And that's already. 281 00:34:10.020 --> 00:34:11.430 Ivan: better and more doesn't have to. 282 00:34:11.430 --> 00:34:13.590 Ivan: start making things up to get it through. 283 00:34:14.970 --> 00:34:16.500 Ivan: work focuses on the marriage. 284 00:34:17.850 --> 00:34:27.000 Jay Handal: and part of the merits i've been missed and what you just said is Is it actually legal underfunding procedures. 285 00:34:29.070 --> 00:34:30.150 Jay Handal: to fund this site. 286 00:34:31.560 --> 00:34:32.970 Ivan: Right my left to yeah. 287 00:34:33.210 --> 00:34:34.350 Jay Handal: Well that's part of the marriage. 288 00:34:34.380 --> 00:34:39.720 Ivan: So yeah no you're right yeah well that, should we push the board shouldn't have to do that. 289 00:34:40.770 --> 00:34:43.290 Jay Handal: And the board doesn't have the expertise to do. 290 00:34:44.010 --> 00:34:59.550 Jay Handal: Right truth of the matter is it's the treasurer and the budget and Finance Committee, you know who know the rules and in that email that you're getting from Jim there is a link called the treasure of his handbook. 291 00:35:00.930 --> 00:35:04.560 Jay Handal: which everybody can read and it tells you what the rules are. 292 00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:15.630 Sima: Okay sad will be great so second of all, and this is the bigger question and Jay I know I like i've asked this before, but I want it on the record. 293 00:35:16.650 --> 00:35:31.860 Sima: So I have a large item already itemized in my budget which is general outreach general outreach has nothing to do with an event general outreach is, for example, copy correct. 294 00:35:33.120 --> 00:35:46.560 Sima: lawn signs stickers whatever we may need a scan code printing whatever we may need if that is falls under my general outreach I can spend it. 295 00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:58.830 Sima: I break we vote on it in my committee, then I bring into budgets, and then we we go from there correct correct okay that's all so I don't need to be yelled at. 296 00:35:59.880 --> 00:36:03.300 Sima: That i'm not understanding the rules correctly right Jay. 297 00:36:04.380 --> 00:36:05.910 Jay Handal: I never yelled at you yeah. 298 00:36:11.220 --> 00:36:12.060 Jay Handal: yeah I mean. 299 00:36:12.810 --> 00:36:16.710 Helen: You might be referring me Sema because you can't charge saying. 300 00:36:17.160 --> 00:36:18.930 Helen: Without getting board approval. 301 00:36:19.110 --> 00:36:19.650 Jay Handal: Last night. 302 00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:21.480 Sima: I mentioned. 303 00:36:22.470 --> 00:36:23.460 Sima: I mentioned you. 304 00:36:23.520 --> 00:36:23.940 Sima: Did I. 305 00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:28.440 Helen: Already, for it because I feel like you know. 306 00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:31.830 Sima: I assume that you are the only expert. 307 00:36:31.830 --> 00:36:32.610 Sometimes. 308 00:36:34.950 --> 00:36:36.210 Jay Handal: guys guys. 309 00:36:38.100 --> 00:36:38.940 Jay Handal: i'm in charge here. 310 00:36:39.390 --> 00:36:48.660 Jay Handal: Thanks Okay, so please raise your hand, first of all, if you want to yell at somebody second of all let's not yell at people. 311 00:36:49.620 --> 00:37:06.330 Jay Handal: 30 people it's like half you're not fully right Helen so there's a category called office and office is pens pencils copies cartridges and all that stuff nobody has to bring that back to the ball. 312 00:37:07.380 --> 00:37:08.550 Helen: Right that's not out. 313 00:37:10.560 --> 00:37:32.070 Jay Handal: that's part of operations, now I may be in outreach but that's part of operations in the total budget, so the nickel and dime stuff like that does not have to come back to the book but Sema if you have $10,000 and outreach and you want to go spend 5000 on a postcard with a. 314 00:37:33.540 --> 00:37:34.770 Jay Handal: That has to come back. 315 00:37:35.520 --> 00:37:39.300 Sima: No we're talking about you know I mean you and I. 316 00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:40.680 Sima: talked about this, I. 317 00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:42.930 Jay Handal: don't have to come back. 318 00:37:43.410 --> 00:37:43.980 Sima: Thank you. 319 00:37:44.040 --> 00:37:58.020 Jay Handal: that's called that's called office, and when I get those receipts from you guys when you spend it it's kinda like Facebook it's in there you don't have every time every month you do Facebook you don't have to come back. 320 00:37:58.410 --> 00:37:58.890 Sima: yeah. 321 00:37:59.100 --> 00:38:11.460 Jay Handal: and get it approved every time you do storage you don't have to come back and get it approved, but every time you decide to spend money with a vendor a new vendor let's say a a printer. 322 00:38:12.120 --> 00:38:26.820 Jay Handal: Okay, or even on signs, you do have to come back on lawn signs, because you have to get the board to approve that this is the lawn sign and we approve it is a board and it's not so much the expenditure. 323 00:38:27.180 --> 00:38:29.400 Sima: know the design and so forth. 324 00:38:29.580 --> 00:38:31.080 Jay Handal: it's everything that goes with. 325 00:38:31.080 --> 00:38:31.350 That. 326 00:38:32.490 --> 00:38:32.880 Sima: Oh. 327 00:38:33.150 --> 00:38:49.440 Jay Handal: You know i'm happy and you know at least while i'm around to help guide you guys on expenditures, because in the end i'm the guy who is to justify to shauna downtown why and expenditure showed up on a credit card, but I don't have a BA see for it. 328 00:38:50.970 --> 00:38:54.690 Jay Handal: And they really don't like getting BA seeds after the expenditure. 329 00:38:56.820 --> 00:39:10.200 Jay Handal: So and that's why i'm trying to get the policies and procedures in place get the formatting in place, so you know we're all volunteers trying to do work as elected officials. 330 00:39:10.890 --> 00:39:26.790 Jay Handal: You know, and the one thing we shouldn't be doing is arguing about you can or can't spend something over here, it should be very black and white should be extremely black and white i'm sorry you guys didn't have a treasure map for a while and it left you guys in a little bit of. 331 00:39:28.260 --> 00:39:37.980 Jay Handal: A mess, but you don't have the mess anymore and that's why tonight we're doing things to try and put things in order so we don't have to deal with this anymore. 332 00:39:40.500 --> 00:39:41.010 Sima: Jay. 333 00:39:41.220 --> 00:39:47.760 jim murez: Jay there's several hands up and Helen you know if you want to raise your hand, you need to press star nine that'll raise your hand oh. 334 00:39:48.450 --> 00:39:51.180 Helen: I had no idea I thought my hand was just up sorry. 335 00:39:51.570 --> 00:40:00.090 Jay Handal: I got Lisa I got cj so let's start with Lisa cj and Helen your hand went back up we'll go back to you so first Lisa. 336 00:40:01.950 --> 00:40:12.750 Lisa Redmond: yeah thanks since you're answering questions, I appreciate this so even though you say we have, or you know you can go back to the same vendor over and over again and doesn't have to be reapproved. 337 00:40:14.040 --> 00:40:20.910 Lisa Redmond: Like advertising in the Argonaut or yo Venice But what if it's for a new event, each time it's different. 338 00:40:21.270 --> 00:40:23.700 Jay Handal: and different an event is different. 339 00:40:24.030 --> 00:40:25.680 Lisa Redmond: So it does require approval. 340 00:40:25.770 --> 00:40:30.900 Jay Handal: It does require approval all events require approval. 341 00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:32.460 Jay Handal: Whether you're buying. 342 00:40:32.490 --> 00:40:39.090 Jay Handal: ice cream cones to give out at the movies in the park and you're doing a postcard for that event. 343 00:40:39.690 --> 00:40:49.710 Jay Handal: Everything under events has to have an event budget and the event budget has to be approved, what categories, I take them from as treasure is my problem. 344 00:40:50.700 --> 00:40:59.220 Jay Handal: Okay, but everything has to come back, an event is a whole different animal it's the ugliest animal in the barn when it comes to the treasure. 345 00:41:00.570 --> 00:41:01.140 Lisa Redmond: Thank you. 346 00:41:02.370 --> 00:41:03.990 Jay Handal: Okay cj. 347 00:41:07.620 --> 00:41:11.880 CJ Cole: yeah i'm kind of bringing up the elephant in the room. 348 00:41:13.140 --> 00:41:26.340 CJ Cole: We had a situation, a few weeks ago, whereby there was an expenditure that was not approved by the city, which had to do with the election. 349 00:41:28.080 --> 00:41:32.790 CJ Cole: Was that eventually approved and pay on what happened to that. 350 00:41:34.290 --> 00:41:35.640 Jay Handal: I have no idea what you. 351 00:41:36.120 --> 00:41:41.700 CJ Cole: See in advertising spend for the election i'm. 352 00:41:42.420 --> 00:41:46.560 Jay Handal: So if you're talking the organizer and yo Venice and. 353 00:41:47.340 --> 00:41:49.470 jim murez: It was for the the. 354 00:41:49.500 --> 00:41:50.910 Jay Handal: Town Hall like I cancel. 355 00:41:50.940 --> 00:41:52.260 jim murez: Yes, the town hall like I can't. 356 00:41:52.260 --> 00:41:54.720 Jay Handal: Get all of them have been submitted for payment. 357 00:42:03.900 --> 00:42:04.320 Jay Handal: Okay. 358 00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:16.050 CJ Cole: I want something that should have been I know the new thing we're coming up with that's something that should have been specifically approved Am I correct as an event. 359 00:42:16.260 --> 00:42:23.340 Jay Handal: Those those advertising expenses should have been approved under an event budget at the board okay. 360 00:42:24.390 --> 00:42:32.760 Jay Handal: But not by budget and finance because it's already been done, if it's in your budget if it's in your annual packet Okay, then. 361 00:42:33.780 --> 00:42:41.910 Jay Handal: outreach or whoever's doing the event comes to the board and says we're having this event and here's the breakdown and here's how much money, I have in each category and we're good. 362 00:42:42.510 --> 00:42:47.520 CJ Cole: I did not have a budget line item for election. 363 00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:50.460 Ivan: We could town hall. 364 00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:52.680 Jay Handal: It was a town hall it wasn't an election. 365 00:42:53.550 --> 00:42:55.320 CJ Cole: We didn't call it a town hall. 366 00:42:55.980 --> 00:43:02.310 Jay Handal: Well, everything I saw said town hall but i'm not i'm not Bobby it for me to argue that point, you know. 367 00:43:02.340 --> 00:43:03.960 Sima: Jay was to see my, if I may. 368 00:43:06.150 --> 00:43:06.390 Jay Handal: I. 369 00:43:06.420 --> 00:43:07.200 Sima: guess you know. 370 00:43:07.680 --> 00:43:08.010 yeah. 371 00:43:11.250 --> 00:43:11.490 Jay Handal: yeah. 372 00:43:14.910 --> 00:43:16.410 Sima: Okay i'm sorry, can you hear me. 373 00:43:16.680 --> 00:43:18.420 Jay Handal: I can hear you go forward CMO. 374 00:43:18.570 --> 00:43:22.680 Sima: um I was just gonna say we actually did have a back on that event. 375 00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:31.770 Sima: And it's a candidate forum and we had have a back for that so just got that that was today. 376 00:43:33.120 --> 00:43:33.510 Jay Handal: Okay. 377 00:43:34.650 --> 00:43:34.890 Helen: So. 378 00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:40.500 Jay Handal: Like I said everything's been submitted these guys are all going to get their money they're going to get paid and it's all good. 379 00:43:42.540 --> 00:43:45.210 Jay Handal: Lisa I see your hand still up is that older no. 380 00:43:46.650 --> 00:43:47.040 Lisa Redmond: No. 381 00:43:47.640 --> 00:43:48.630 Jay Handal: Okay, leave to go. 382 00:43:49.080 --> 00:44:06.930 Lisa Redmond: The bigger question was that that back was denied in that financial panelists tonight, so the board approved the spending, but then the spending was spent before the funding packet and the bath was approved, which was ultimately denied, so how. 383 00:44:09.510 --> 00:44:10.680 Lisa Redmond: Does that get spent now. 384 00:44:10.890 --> 00:44:13.740 Jay Handal: i'm confused tell me again the. 385 00:44:14.340 --> 00:44:15.330 Jay Handal: What is the back. 386 00:44:15.390 --> 00:44:16.620 Jay Handal: What is a back mean. 387 00:44:16.650 --> 00:44:21.330 Jay Handal: The BC O the board action, yes okay. 388 00:44:21.540 --> 00:44:23.190 Jay Handal: So action count. 389 00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:28.890 Jay Handal: comes after the board approves it it's a formality that's all it is, is a formality. 390 00:44:29.580 --> 00:44:34.740 Lisa Redmond: But the city rejected it, and denied the event and denied spending fun. 391 00:44:34.770 --> 00:44:45.900 Jay Handal: that's a different story Cindy got pissed off at you guys and shut the event down that has nothing to do with with how the money was voted that money, I did a very. 392 00:44:46.560 --> 00:45:11.160 Jay Handal: Deep dive into that whole situation okay done shut that event down, for whatever reason, they never gave anybody Okay, but the expenditure itself was approved, that the board level Okay, and the city is liable for those expenses and the city is paying those bills. 393 00:45:12.060 --> 00:45:13.140 Lisa Redmond: Okay, thank you. 394 00:45:13.470 --> 00:45:20.850 Jay Handal: Sema last bite and then we're going back to actually trying to get this item past unless Jim I see your hand up. 395 00:45:20.940 --> 00:45:22.260 jim murez: So i'm going to lower my hand. 396 00:45:22.380 --> 00:45:25.470 Jay Handal: Thank you so much okay see my last bite, this is it. 397 00:45:30.120 --> 00:45:30.570 Jay Handal: Hello. 398 00:45:31.530 --> 00:45:32.610 jim murez: There are no hands up. 399 00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:35.010 Jay Handal: Okay, well, I just took seem as down. 400 00:45:35.970 --> 00:45:37.680 Helen: On call on me. 401 00:45:38.580 --> 00:45:39.510 Jay Handal: I said Sema. 402 00:45:41.100 --> 00:45:41.520 Jay Handal: Oh, I don't. 403 00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:42.660 Helen: know I can't. 404 00:45:42.870 --> 00:45:44.730 Jay Handal: I can't see the phone call sorry. 405 00:45:45.330 --> 00:45:50.520 Daffodil Tyminski: i'm sorry Sema got knocked off the meeting and I had to re promote her as panelists which I think is now kicking in. 406 00:45:51.150 --> 00:45:51.570 Okay. 407 00:45:52.650 --> 00:45:59.550 Sima: hi i'm back, can you hear me sorry I got kicked out and then I was not a panelist that's all my hand was up. 408 00:46:00.330 --> 00:46:02.730 Jay Handal: Okay, all right well your back end congratulate. 409 00:46:03.510 --> 00:46:04.260 Sima: Okay, thank you. 410 00:46:04.350 --> 00:46:10.260 Jay Handal: One for punishment OK, so the phone someone on the phone wanted to speak. 411 00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:13.410 Daffodil Tyminski: That was there I know hands raised. 412 00:46:13.740 --> 00:46:14.160 Helen: Okay. 413 00:46:14.550 --> 00:46:16.020 Female hands raise. 414 00:46:17.730 --> 00:46:20.100 Daffodil Tyminski: Yes, Helen just raise your hand. 415 00:46:21.390 --> 00:46:22.710 Helen: You know I had my hand up. 416 00:46:22.770 --> 00:46:23.610 I don't know well, I. 417 00:46:25.740 --> 00:46:28.650 Helen: don't and i'm unmuted i'm Okay, I hear. 418 00:46:29.310 --> 00:46:29.970 Jay Handal: We hear you. 419 00:46:30.060 --> 00:46:40.110 Helen: Okay, good okay i'm Jim why don't you just send Jay the letter that came from and tower that explain why there was all that problems with the forum, I mean. 420 00:46:41.850 --> 00:46:43.350 Jay Handal: i'm not interested honestly. 421 00:46:44.310 --> 00:46:49.980 Helen: Well then, don't do something, saying that there there isn't knowledge of what the reasons were it because. 422 00:46:50.670 --> 00:46:51.510 Helen: it's outside of. 423 00:46:51.570 --> 00:46:54.060 Jay Handal: My wheelhouse let me put it to you that way, and please don't. 424 00:46:55.260 --> 00:46:55.740 Jay Handal: Thank you. 425 00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:58.290 Helen: Okay, thank you you're giving out information thank. 426 00:46:58.290 --> 00:47:00.690 Helen: You correct so that's why you like it corrected. 427 00:47:00.780 --> 00:47:01.980 Jay Handal: I don't I don't know why they. 428 00:47:02.490 --> 00:47:03.240 Helen: don't have it. 429 00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:06.900 Helen: Okay, if you don't want to read it that's fine. 430 00:47:07.200 --> 00:47:07.380 Jay Handal: I. 431 00:47:07.860 --> 00:47:18.660 Helen: I also want to point out that the funding at the funding policy guidelines are right there on in power there right there at the city clerk's office and everyone should be familiar with them. 432 00:47:18.720 --> 00:47:19.080 Jay Handal: And that's. 433 00:47:19.140 --> 00:47:19.890 Helen: And the. 434 00:47:20.610 --> 00:47:25.080 Helen: passes occurred because people weren't following the funding guidelines. 435 00:47:25.290 --> 00:47:32.610 Helen: right there spelled out in black and white there's no confusion and needs to be followed, and we are not budget and our outreach. 436 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:44.700 Helen: The way you're suggesting we're budgeting is one big block item which requires that it goes before the board for permission we don't have a category of town hall we just have everything is outreach which. 437 00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:45.630 Helen: Which is why. 438 00:47:45.690 --> 00:47:48.780 Jay Handal: Which is why I said that has to come back to the morning. 439 00:47:50.190 --> 00:47:53.490 Helen: Right, exactly, so I think yeah we're in i'm. 440 00:47:54.750 --> 00:47:56.730 Helen: Getting very confused yeah I. 441 00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:58.860 Jay Handal: was confused isn't listening well. 442 00:47:59.340 --> 00:48:00.330 Jay Handal: Okay, I was very. 443 00:48:01.740 --> 00:48:02.190 Helen: well. 444 00:48:02.460 --> 00:48:03.060 Jay Handal: I was that. 445 00:48:03.090 --> 00:48:03.300 I. 446 00:48:04.590 --> 00:48:05.160 Helen: Helen. 447 00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:05.880 Jay Handal: Helen him. 448 00:48:05.970 --> 00:48:17.670 Jay Handal: i'm not arguing with you i'm muting you because you can't just keep jumping in and telling us telling me what to do in my committee okay i'm sorry you've had way too many. 449 00:48:17.940 --> 00:48:18.240 On. 450 00:48:19.830 --> 00:48:22.320 Jay Handal: You you've taken way too many bites at the apple. 451 00:48:23.610 --> 00:48:23.880 Jay Handal: So. 452 00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:25.410 Helen: See. 453 00:48:25.500 --> 00:48:26.670 Jay Handal: Sema go ahead. 454 00:48:29.730 --> 00:48:30.690 Excuse me. 455 00:48:32.070 --> 00:48:32.610 Jay Handal: Thank you. 456 00:48:34.140 --> 00:48:35.160 Jay Handal: seem oh go ahead. 457 00:48:36.120 --> 00:48:53.610 Sima: I just want to once again since i'm being called out, and please forgive me Jay because I know this is your committee and this isn't about getting into it with anybody else who's on the committee, I just want to point out that I forget it, it doesn't matter. 458 00:48:54.240 --> 00:49:02.880 Jay Handal: Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, we have a motion on the table, we need to have a motion and a second on this item number seven. 459 00:49:03.210 --> 00:49:04.770 Ivan: I made the motion. 460 00:49:04.860 --> 00:49:05.460 jim murez: We did. 461 00:49:05.820 --> 00:49:06.570 Jay Handal: It was Ivan. 462 00:49:06.600 --> 00:49:07.860 jim murez: Ivan a motion. 463 00:49:07.980 --> 00:49:09.780 jim murez: And I second did it. 464 00:49:10.170 --> 00:49:10.560 jim murez: Right. 465 00:49:10.650 --> 00:49:12.630 Jay Handal: we're ready for the vote, ready to vote. 466 00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:16.830 Jay Handal: Okay okay so Jay boats, yes, Jim. 467 00:49:19.950 --> 00:49:21.180 jim murez: Jim boats yes. 468 00:49:21.510 --> 00:49:25.410 Jay Handal: David avondale yes Ivan. 469 00:49:25.710 --> 00:49:27.690 Sima: Sema yes. 470 00:49:28.080 --> 00:49:30.030 Jay Handal: And Helen I think is dropped off. 471 00:49:32.580 --> 00:49:33.960 Jay Handal: yeah Helen dropped off. 472 00:49:34.290 --> 00:49:35.550 Helen: So that's i'm not. 473 00:49:36.660 --> 00:49:37.170 Helen: Oh Helen. 474 00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:44.400 Helen: Helen do you stuck I can't be with elevated a panelist that's the problem because i'm on my phone okay. 475 00:49:44.430 --> 00:49:44.730 Okay. 476 00:49:45.810 --> 00:49:46.110 Jay Handal: yeah. 477 00:49:49.530 --> 00:49:54.150 Helen: I wanted to amend this because I think it should be clear, so i'm going to vote against us. 478 00:49:54.360 --> 00:50:06.330 Jay Handal: Okay, so Helens and no it passes 51000, that is the end of all the motions do I have a motion to adjourn. 479 00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:07.710 Ivan: Wait. 480 00:50:08.610 --> 00:50:10.020 I will make the motion to adjourn. 481 00:50:12.120 --> 00:50:12.960 Jay Handal: Yes, i've been. 482 00:50:13.080 --> 00:50:14.460 Ivan: up before you do that. 483 00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:18.300 Ivan: Could you could Oliver is waiting for this. 484 00:50:19.620 --> 00:50:20.220 Ivan: Can you. 485 00:50:20.340 --> 00:50:21.000 Helen: write up. 486 00:50:21.570 --> 00:50:23.370 Ivan: With the motion isn't send it to him. 487 00:50:24.900 --> 00:50:26.010 Ivan: get it on your agenda. 488 00:50:26.340 --> 00:50:29.670 Jay Handal: The motion is right there and number seven it's been approved. 489 00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:31.830 Ivan: yeah it's not the actual motion. 490 00:50:32.100 --> 00:50:32.970 Jay Handal: That is the motion. 491 00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:37.140 Jay Handal: That is the motion that is the motion I didn't number seven is emotion. 492 00:50:37.170 --> 00:50:37.800 jim murez: All night. 493 00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:38.490 jim murez: Oh, I can. 494 00:50:38.670 --> 00:50:39.810 Jay Handal: be better by the budget. 495 00:50:39.810 --> 00:50:41.610 Jay Handal: and find an older gentleman. 496 00:50:41.700 --> 00:50:44.370 jim murez: OK, I can rj I can I can send it all over. 497 00:50:44.370 --> 00:50:45.270 Jay Handal: Thank you, Jim. 498 00:50:45.540 --> 00:50:47.220 Jay Handal: I am emotion, what else. 499 00:50:47.730 --> 00:50:48.810 Ivan: Do I have a SEC okay. 500 00:50:48.900 --> 00:50:50.070 jim murez: yeah Jim will seconds. 501 00:50:50.460 --> 00:50:53.370 Jay Handal: All right, anybody against going home and having a good time. 502 00:50:55.260 --> 00:50:56.580 Jay Handal: Thank you all for coming. 503 00:50:57.000 --> 00:50:59.160 Jay Handal: And we'll play it the board, thank you for. 504 00:50:59.190 --> 00:51:00.300 Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks so much day. 505 00:51:00.390 --> 00:51:00.720 Ivan: Thank you. 506 00:51:02.100 --> 00:51:04.020 Ivan: streamer are you there. 507 00:51:05.520 --> 00:51:06.120 Ivan: chima. 508 00:51:07.590 --> 00:51:08.910 Ivan: he's gone all right i'll call.