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jim murez: hi frank, can you hear me OK.

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frank murphy: Now yeah everything's working.

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jim murez: All right, good i'm going to your cameras a little high you might want to pull it down.

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frank murphy: yeah yeah.

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jim murez: i'm going to go ahead and promote you to be the host and then whenever somebody comes it actually before I do that, let me do one other thing.

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frank murphy: i'm having trouble with this goddamn video again.

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frank murphy: Excuse my French.

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jim murez: yeah it's all.

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jim murez: Okay, so.

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jim murez: Video sharing is on and now i'm going to promote you to host so whenever vicki or somebody else shows up and you want to promote them to co host you'll get to do that.

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frank murphy: How do I do that go down on.

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jim murez: Apps more well one, let me, let me promote you first and then you'll see all the.

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buttons.

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jim murez: So now you're the host now if you go to where it says panelists down at the bottom of the participants down at the bottom of the screen.

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jim murez: And you click on that, and then on one side, it says panelist, on the other side, it says attendees you should see my name in your name and next to your name, you see host.

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frank murphy: hang on i'm looking at participants.

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frank murphy: Do I open participants and then I see that.

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jim murez: yeah so click on participants.

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frank murphy: I got it there, it is OK.

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frank murphy: And now.

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jim murez: You see my name in your name under panels.

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jim murez: yep one the attendees arrived that'll be you click on the side, where it says attendees right now there's nobody there.

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jim murez: Right Okay, so when vicki shows up she'll be there.

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jim murez: And then, and then, if you move your cursor over the top of your name or my name.

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frank murphy: yeah.

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jim murez: you'll see there's a word there that says more.

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frank murphy: yeah.

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jim murez: And when you click on more you can do things that it then lets you do so, for instance, you can.

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jim murez: Create me as Co host if you want it to.

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frank murphy: Well it's only letting me it says pin spotlight for everyone, or rename.

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jim murez: And that's over me or over you.

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frank murphy: that's over me.

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jim murez: i'm there should be more there than that.

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jim murez: yeah tell me.

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jim murez: What happens when you go over Oh, maybe that's correct now when you're over yourself what happens if you go over me.

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jim murez: And you click on the more.

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frank murphy: Oh yes, got a whole bunch of things so when vicki gets there you'll click on more and one of them says co hosts.

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frank murphy: And then make her or I can make her the host too.

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jim murez: Well, that the difference between host and co host at this point is no different.

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frank murphy: Okay sorry no problem good.

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jim murez: I mean you know, once you make her co host she can do everything you can do, with the exception of.

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jim murez: Turning on and off screen sharing, but I said it where everybody has the ability to share any panelist has the ability to share screen, so you don't need to change that.

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frank murphy: Okay, all right, no problem.

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frank murphy: Okay, all right boss, thank you very much.

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jim murez: Have a good one, you look good.

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frank murphy: Take care of a thank you, you do.

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frank murphy: All right, bye for now considering the wear and tear.

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jim murez: it's unbelievable.

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frank murphy: I don't.

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frank murphy: yeah yeah it's a yes.

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jim murez: All right.

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frank murphy: Take care yourself man.

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jim murez: Thanks bye for now.

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You bet.

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Elizabeth Wright: Good evening.

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frank murphy: hey you're back.

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Elizabeth Wright: I am indeed back.

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frank murphy: Ah.

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frank murphy: You haven't been in front of a screen for a while I hope.

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Elizabeth Wright: No, no.

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Elizabeth Wright: But that was one great vacation.

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frank murphy: Oh man i'm happy for you.

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frank murphy: yeah you need those you need those.

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Elizabeth Wright: I think I gained 25 pounds.

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frank murphy: No way.

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Elizabeth Wright: It was all visiting dear friends.

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Elizabeth Wright: And you cannot talk to, dear friends, unless October food.

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frank murphy: yeah absolutely.

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frank murphy: Absolutely.

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Elizabeth Wright: It was great.

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frank murphy: yeah yeah that's good to hear that's good to hear.

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Elizabeth Wright: There, there was part of one family that I did not get to see.

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Elizabeth Wright: Because of the logistics distance there about five hours away from.

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Elizabeth Wright: The people I was staying with and.

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Elizabeth Wright: children at school.

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Elizabeth Wright: Children still go to school, did you know that.

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frank murphy: yeah When did they have to go through locked doors and lock in and out and.

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frank murphy: And yeah crazy isn't it.

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frank murphy: yeah well you got you had a nice vacation that saved you from that conversation.

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frank murphy: The insanity of that conversation all over again.

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Elizabeth Wright: But I did make these weird discoveries.

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Elizabeth Wright: In Berlin, they have this magnificent giant airport.

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frank murphy: yeah.

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Elizabeth Wright: So I got to the airport and it was.

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Elizabeth Wright: Extremely early in the morning.

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Elizabeth Wright: And I looked up and there on the mezzanine was giant signed it said food court.

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Elizabeth Wright: up the escalator I go i've got my little carry on I got my cane.

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frank murphy: uh huh.

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Elizabeth Wright: I was not prepared for fish and chips for breakfast.

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Elizabeth Wright: And I didn't have coffee anyway.

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Elizabeth Wright: They just had cold drinks and.

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Elizabeth Wright: There was an Indian place.

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Elizabeth Wright: That had I don't know what but it didn't look like anything I would want to eat for breakfast so I had a large pretzel and the world's smallest cup of coffee.

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Elizabeth Wright: got it down everything was fine and then I went to go back down to the main floor to go to the gate area.

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Elizabeth Wright: and

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Elizabeth Wright: hmm.

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Elizabeth Wright: there's an up escalator but not down escalator.

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Elizabeth Wright: So there, I was with my little carry on and my King grabbing onto the handrail for the for the stairs trying to get down.

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frank murphy: Oh man.

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Elizabeth Wright: And someone came by he was just so kind so he carried my carry on down for me.

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Elizabeth Wright: yeah.

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Elizabeth Wright: thanks you don't really think about.

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frank murphy: yeah yeah.

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frank murphy: yeah that's so damn true, and you know, I was like.

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frank murphy: You miss that kind of stuff you know.

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frank murphy: But.

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Elizabeth Wright: When one thing is still true people in Europe walk they walk a lot.

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Elizabeth Wright: of people in the US.

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frank murphy: Especially la I was up in last weekend I was up in Boise Idaho and.

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frank murphy: You know, it seemed like everybody there was outdoors he you know.

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frank murphy: trail blaze a trail hikers and etc, etc.

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frank murphy: course it's a lot of students to it's a lot of cotton the universities there so.

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frank murphy: So they.

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frank murphy: They.

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frank murphy: It seems see so big keys coming in.

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frank murphy: And my damn video is playing games with me.

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frank murphy: hey becky.

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vicki halliday: Welcome back.

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Elizabeth Wright: Oh, I have my lunch right.

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Elizabeth Wright: dictionary.

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Elizabeth Wright: I have my Hungarian phrasebook.

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vicki halliday: which you were in Hungary to.

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Elizabeth Wright: yeah Edgar hungry.

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Elizabeth Wright: Okay, which is the home of bulls blood wine.

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frank murphy: bottom line.

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Elizabeth Wright: Excuse me.

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frank murphy: blues blood wine.

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Elizabeth Wright: bow bow.

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bow.

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Elizabeth Wright: Bo bo's blood wind.

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Elizabeth Wright: And it's very famous in Europe.

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frank murphy: All right.

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frank murphy: Now.

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Elizabeth Wright: On a previous visit I have definitely more than my fair share.

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vicki halliday: I was there when right after freedom was declared to do a film shoot.

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vicki halliday: And it was really wild because they didn't have any good wine, I mean you know it was it was just transitioning from Communist.

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vicki halliday: yeah it was the first mcdonald's it open.

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vicki halliday: And they were all thrilled.

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frank murphy: yeah.

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vicki halliday: It looks like Mr ramirez was here early.

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frank murphy: yeah what's happening to me here.

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frank murphy: i'm.

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vicki halliday: Organizing.

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frank murphy: You yeah I i'm kind of.

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frank murphy: And now, my screen is all ghost white.

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vicki halliday: it's a wonky.

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frank murphy: yeah.

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vicki halliday: You want to log off and come back on and i'll let you in.

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frank murphy: Okay, I got you as codes, but I can't change any.

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frank murphy: So if I log off will there be any I can't even log off.

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vicki halliday: I can promote you to co host I believe.

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frank murphy: Let me see if I can I don't I don't even know I can get the hell off here.

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frank murphy: wait for the program to respond.

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frank murphy: zoom meeting is not responding if you close the program you might lose information, who cares what is going on here.

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frank murphy: vicki I don't know how to handle this.

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vicki halliday: i'm just leave and come back and i'll promote you.

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vicki halliday: Because there's really nothing it's got to be done.

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vicki halliday: Except you know I mean when we stop the meeting I can do that, then the recording stops.

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vicki halliday: Did we lose ya.

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vicki halliday: must have lost in list it's.

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Elizabeth Wright: Always iffy but.

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Elizabeth Wright: The old standby still works, most of the time when all else fails unplug it.

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vicki halliday: In reverse yeah exactly.

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vicki halliday: There he's gone with well let's see here.

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Elizabeth Wright: Oh, and congratulations on all the work that you did for the budget.

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vicki halliday: Oh, we that was yeah we've got that all done it was.

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vicki halliday: You know I really think i've been for bringing Jay in.

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Elizabeth Wright: Well, he definitely knows what he's doing.

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vicki halliday: Oh yeah you know just like this it's great like you, you know it takes a special talent to do that work I could you know I hate balancing my checkbook I would.

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Elizabeth Wright: I haven't done that in.

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Elizabeth Wright: It would be embarrassing to say, the number of years.

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vicki halliday: yeah.

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vicki halliday: I can think in.

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vicki halliday: terms of.

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vicki halliday: That stuff.

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vicki halliday: So you home for the summer.

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Elizabeth Wright: Think so yeah thanks, it might make a little trip to Las Vegas but nothing's.

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vicki halliday: that's next door.

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Elizabeth Wright: Nothing significant, yes it is.

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Elizabeth Wright: and

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Elizabeth Wright: If you book early you get really low rates on Southwest.

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Elizabeth Wright: Okay, I always I always fly yeah.

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vicki halliday: that'd be fun.

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vicki halliday: i'm just waiting to see what covered does, I mean it's pick back up.

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Elizabeth Wright: It was interesting that UCLA said, by the way.

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Elizabeth Wright: it's spreading again and we're going to just require masks again.

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vicki halliday: Because um I got sick yesterday I woke up sore throat, you know, the whole thing.

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Elizabeth Wright: oh dear.

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vicki halliday: And I tested yesterday afternoon and I didn't I tested negative.

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vicki halliday: i'll test again tomorrow morning.

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vicki halliday: But I think i'm fine, I get the Musa next as quick as I could.

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vicki halliday: And that kind of wiped it out.

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vicki halliday: But I thought this weekend, would be a lazy weekend, but it was so busy.

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vicki halliday: You know, with the board meeting yesterday morning, and all that so one of these weekends i'm going to take off.

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Elizabeth Wright: Are you still working.

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vicki halliday: work at home, but I do, I did put it, a few hours a day i'm on various things, and you know, luckily I can do it.

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vicki halliday: pretty much whatever I want to, I do have deadlines every week.

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vicki halliday: So.

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vicki halliday: hey.

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vicki halliday: um you know what right come in, under your car our address, and not the nc.

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vicki halliday: Just click on the agenda link and come in, like somebody in the public.

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vicki halliday: yeah sure.

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vicki halliday: I was having a little bit of trouble, on my own desktop yesterday so.

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vicki halliday: Okay, and you should be able to get in if you just come in, as a member of the public will not promote it.

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vicki halliday: OK.

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vicki halliday: OK so i'll promote you now.

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vicki halliday: Okay.

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vicki halliday: frank i'm trying to promote you are you seeing the.

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vicki halliday: There we go you decline decline.

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vicki halliday: A bad.

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Elizabeth Wright: hi pat.

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Elizabeth Wright: you're muted.

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vicki halliday: There you go.

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Elizabeth Wright: You are muted.

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frank murphy: I agree, well, I don't.

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frank murphy: I don't have a camera.

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frank murphy: Like I lost my camera so that way, maybe that's what was happening there.

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frank murphy: My camera was going out on me.

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vicki halliday: Oh, could have been.

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frank murphy: Why do I have these problems.

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vicki halliday: Well, sounds like you're your guy that helps you with computers, maybe needs to do some updates.

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frank murphy: Some funny right.

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frank murphy: Try leaving join again.

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vicki halliday: camera's not working.

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vicki halliday: I mean you can try it.

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vicki halliday: again.

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frank murphy: Give me the camera.

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vicki halliday: must be something on your end some glitch.

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vicki halliday: Are you on your desktop or your laptop.

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frank murphy: i'm on my laptop.

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frank murphy: I can move over to my desktop.

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frank murphy: Well i'm gonna stay here on this way because now my desktop is working at all I can't get Google okay.

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vicki halliday: Well, sounds like you need your it guy to come by.

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frank murphy: yeah.

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vicki halliday: hi Brian.

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Brian Ulf: hi becky I was.

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frank murphy: Sorry, Brian you won't be able to see me.

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Brian Ulf: isn't that.

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Brian Ulf: isn't that a shame.

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frank murphy: Yes.

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frank murphy: Thank God we got vicki in there.

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frank murphy: yeah Liz.

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Brian Ulf: See everybody.

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Brian Ulf: pat.

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frank murphy: We might.

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frank murphy: Stand called me was that urgent care so he had something going on, so he may or may not be able to join.

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frank murphy: And God when.

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vicki halliday: God is going to be here, not.

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frank murphy: yeah he he said he was going to be here.

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frank murphy: Okay, and he's got somebody to join us.

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frank murphy: going.

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vicki halliday: i'd hope to get by to see the guy at Westminster to get him to come tonight, but I was too sick yesterday to go down there yeah The good news is you got a voucher housing Dr sexual, but now he's got to navigate figuring out how to find that.

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Brian Ulf: yeah where do you go.

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vicki halliday: I don't know I mean he's still living in his car at Westminster.

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vicki halliday: he's I think he got the voucher on Friday.

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vicki halliday: So he'll be figuring out where to go.

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frank murphy: well.

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frank murphy: we've met our threshold.

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vicki halliday: We get quorum.

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frank murphy: We got quorum.

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vicki halliday: let's go ahead and start now watch for people.

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frank murphy: And there's 13 people in so I guess we're doing.

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frank murphy: pretty good, thank you very much for.

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frank murphy: The attendees.

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frank murphy: So we'll call to order roll call.

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frank murphy: frankie's here.

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frank murphy: Brian.

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frank murphy: vicki.

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frank murphy: yeah and few others that are thinking about shows.

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Pat Raphael: are supposed to say here guys.

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frank murphy: what's that pat.

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Brian Ulf: He just was saying these here.

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Pat Raphael: Here is didn't acknowledge my presence wanted to make sure i'm here on the record.

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frank murphy: Your there.

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frank murphy: We got you.

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frank murphy: So we had the Minutes adopted, but I was made aware of the fact that that that the link there doesn't take you back to the may 3.

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frank murphy: Minutes it takes you to another date so my apologies if somebody is trying to.

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Brian Ulf: Get on this minutes, I went back and on the dnc website, you can find it.

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Brian Ulf: Under argument it just wasn't on the link that you had set all of us.

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frank murphy: Correct yeah.

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frank murphy: So I apologize for that.

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frank murphy: I guess.

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frank murphy: For the most part that's the Chair report um you know we've had a.

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frank murphy: hell of a lot more activity over on the Center nella our centennial park.

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frank murphy: And in.

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frank murphy: The problems are here okay.

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frank murphy: We have.

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frank murphy: Public comment now on non agenda items sort of seeing as there's nothing on the agenda thats related to emotion that's pretty much anything you guys want to bring up we typically limit that to a minute.

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frank murphy: But.

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frank murphy: Please put your hands up and let's let's get some comments coming in.

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vicki halliday: I see one up so far kalani go ahead.

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Kalani W: kalani whittington here i'm active stakeholder throughout the West side and I had a free night, so I thought I chime in I found that many neighborhood Council committees, especially the homeless ones, have been inundated with homeless rights advocates, who ignore.

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Kalani W: Right of stakeholders who actually live in the Community, and I believe in helping the homeless, but I believe in mandating that help I am an indigenous disabled.

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Kalani W: Women of color and I was forced out of the workforce at 43 at peak earning age, I never ended up homeless I I did what I needed to do to ensure that I was able to.

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Kalani W: not end up on the streets, and if that meant moving to another part of town or another state where I could afford a roof over over my head.

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Kalani W: That is what I would have done, I have been fortunate that I planned properly, I did not have mental health or drug abuse issues to contend with, but I believe that we need to mandate and stop coddling when it's time for tough love, because our homeless receive medicaid medicare SSI are.

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Kalani W: The some of the encampments have porta potties laundry.

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frank murphy: Service every.

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Kalani W: Every need available and and many of those who are still left on the streets are those who refuse to accept bridge housing or project room key and they are the ones that are most in need, therefore, I am all for men, dating treatment and getting them off the street, thank you.

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vicki halliday: Thank you kalani um next up Sean o'brien.

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Sean obrien: hey guys uh uh i've been to a couple meetings and there was a lot of talk about the centennial park and cabinet and how many tense when Ted Hayes was there and had his little media event, with people running for office.

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Sean obrien: He gave me a tour I walked through the encampments with them, and why I did that, and you know I met several of the people that are living there.

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Sean obrien: Why, I did that I counted the tense, this was about two, three weeks ago there were 84 tenths at centennial park and around the greenbelt around the West side of the library.

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Sean obrien: I have seen a more tense increase, so I think we're fair to say there's 90 tense, so I don't want people saying there's there's only 25 or 60 pounds that's all I wanted to share, as I have, I counted twice, so I would suggest we have at least 90 tents at that, in common, thank you.

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frank murphy: Thanks Sean.

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frank murphy: Sean I.

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frank murphy: I went out this morning and counted and I came up with 78.

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Sean obrien: Did you count the ones around the library.

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frank murphy: Seven years also there's also a big area looks like something happened in a certain area that.

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frank murphy: Of the encampment.

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Brian Ulf: guys we're not making comments here, this is.

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frank murphy: My apologies.

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vicki halliday: We get to talk later on, thank you Sean.

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Sean obrien: Next, thank you.

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vicki halliday: Do you get Elisa.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: yeah, I just wanted to remind that public comment is for public comment and no discussion um I also want to share with kalani that I am an actual Venice resident, I am a Venice stakeholder and I am a homeless rights advocate.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: But we are open to all people, especially people that might have their city of income, we hold a.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: resource Center on the third Saturday of every month in mar vista where we do have access to laundry and showers and all kinds of resources, the dmv comes out, we give free haircuts so kalani.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: A you're very welcome to come to that as well as as anybody we pick up people at their encampments throughout the West side bring him to the St beads parking lot in marvis stuff and then take them back to their encampment at the end of the day, so there it is you're welcome.

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vicki halliday: Thank you Lisa.

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vicki halliday: Okay um frank, did you want to come in on centennial.

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Brian Ulf: he's muted.

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frank murphy: Okay yeah sorry about that the key of.

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frank murphy: Louisiana can I apologize.

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vicki halliday: You were in the middle of a comment about centennial park.

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frank murphy: No, no, we can say that, for the end and yeah I mean I just I didn't want to.

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frank murphy: I shouldn't have been interrupted there I apologize.

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vicki halliday: Okay um I don't see God here.

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vicki halliday: I got I mean it's up to you about what we're doing about the the Roundtable.

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frank murphy: Well we'll do the Roundtable it's coming up, so if he's got let me see if we're looking for Larry snyder sm y de.

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frank murphy: De are.

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vicki halliday: We have one calling user but there's no fun number.

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frank murphy: um well I would assume that that.

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frank murphy: If he is.

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frank murphy: Larry snyder raise your hand and we'll Oh, you can because you're on the phone.

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vicki halliday: I mean it's.

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vicki halliday: it's lb nine right.

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frank murphy: oh nine okay.

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frank murphy: All right, well, I would assume, then that that is not that is not materialize that Larry has not materialized.

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vicki halliday: Well, and God hasn't either so maybe.

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frank murphy: The thing there, we can pick them up later yeah.

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vicki halliday: And we can talk a little bit about centennial Park, just so everybody knows um I mean everybody has been concerned about centennial and the dnc somehow getting emotion through um there have been some hit and Miss sort of situations where the motions didn't quite work.

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vicki halliday: daffodil and I talked to today, and I think what we're going to try and do next week.

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vicki halliday: And we will certainly post it with the proper notice, we will do a joint meeting between the homelessness Committee and the neighborhood committee, but they have a medium Friday morning.

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vicki halliday: um what we'll all start doing is asking people to email us with you know their biggest suggestions or questions about centennial.

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vicki halliday: And then between the two committees, we will have that joint meeting next week, we will somehow put all this together.

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vicki halliday: and get emotion going to the board for the end of the month for this month's meeting because I think it's important that the dnc send something to the city to be on record about all this.

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vicki halliday: So you know email us your issues your questions and we'll go through them as daffodil will go through her committees outreach and you know i'll try and even get seeming to put this up on the dnc site.

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vicki halliday: Because I just emailed frank awry.

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frank murphy: And how much.

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frank murphy: up front.

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frank murphy: Can we get some some upfront.

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frank murphy: Publicity on this, I know, seems wrong.

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vicki halliday: frank i'll have to check into that this we just decided, you know earlier today and I haven't talked to sing.

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frank murphy: Right yeah yeah I will do that will roll it out, but I think it's.

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vicki halliday: Important for the board to.

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vicki halliday: You know, let all the voices being heard and get this in a record.

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frank murphy: And soon as possible, I think.

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vicki halliday: yeah I mean.

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vicki halliday: This week, the questions should come into us and then give us a chance to write one.

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frank murphy: yeah.

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vicki halliday: emotion and get it up and get it posted in time for a meeting later next week.

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frank murphy: yeah that makes sense to me any other comments.

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vicki halliday: Any public comment on that.

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vicki halliday: Lisa redman go ahead Lisa.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: yeah um you know the expectation that we need to be on record and get something to the city pretty much sounds like it's only going to come from the perspective of housed individuals and not the perspective of unhealthy people, so I would urge people to consider that you know.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: This encampment kind of came out of nowhere so we've got a much bigger issue going on that.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Maybe randomly there were just two or three tents there last fall, but it really wasn't towards till mid January that it started really growing, so we need to look at other issues, where there are problems that encampments are being forced to move being pushed out from other places coming.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: being pushed out illegally by private security forces that they have to go somewhere people have to land somewhere and.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: This is where they land it they go to a place where they're not going to be father.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Of course, which bothers everybody that they're there, but we have to look at perspective that people have to exist, they can't disappear, so when encampments are pushed from one street.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: It doesn't solve the issue, it just kicks the can down the road to somewhere else.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: So I would urge that, if there is something going to the city, it is with a recommendation that please we get special funding to do an encampment to home.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: To bought get more hotel vouchers, to take care of that not let's just clear the park but let's have something where people can be taken care of.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: They just didn't come out of here, out of nowhere, because otherwise that park would have been filled with people you know, for months, for the last few years, so let's think about that from the unhealthy perspective that people have to exist, they can't disappear.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Okay, thank you.

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vicki halliday: Thank you Lisa um next up shauna Brian.

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Sean obrien: hi not surprising, I disagree with Lisa redman, we all know how this encampment developed we push the people off the boardwalk push them out of less justin park push them out of other districts coming from other cities states, etc.

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Sean obrien: Just because this is the last place they landed does not mean, this is a place that they should remain with That said, thank you for your time.

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vicki halliday: Thank you Sean kalani Please go ahead.

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vicki halliday: kalani.

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Kalani W: Thank you, I needed to be unmuted.

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Kalani W: I would like to see the city invest in more treatment centers instead of trying to build $800,000.

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Kalani W: Housing units, or even 200,000 mini housing units that take up too much land i'd rather the city start investing in building treatment centers where its most cost effective, it does not make sense to try to force an $800,000 for.

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Kalani W: homeless housing you per unit and expensive parts of town, when you could build 10 units where it's more cost effective.

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Kalani W: I want to see the city start building where its most cost effective and build treatment centers first and men date treatment, a roof does not solve a drug abuse or mental health issue.

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Kalani W: treatment does provide them with treatment centers and but do not allow them to fend for themselves on the street, that is inhumane.

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vicki halliday: Thank you kalani.

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vicki halliday: And i'm committee come in.

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Pat Raphael: Well, I i'm not sure if we were able to get anybody for the Roundtable, but I am on the boardwalk and I do we have a speaker it's a pretty big speaker.

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Pat Raphael: that's broadcasting this so that people can kind of participate in one of the folks that's been kind of on looking wanted to participate, so I don't know if.

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Pat Raphael: If we want to.

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Pat Raphael: Do the.

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Pat Raphael: Roundtable with this guest if there's nobody else coming here.

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vicki halliday: I think that's fine no you frank.

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frank murphy: I think if we can keep it to.

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frank murphy: You know, specific person talking at each time it doesn't have to be one person for the whole night but you know what I mean.

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frank murphy: yeah you know okay.

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Pat Raphael: All right, so this is my neighbor don.

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Pat Raphael: he's been in Venice, for as long as i've been here, he came right before I got here about seven eight years ago he's a local angeleno he grew up in the city and i'd like to have his perspective be part of the conversation.

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Pat Raphael: hi i'm.

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Pat Raphael: born and raised in.

435
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Pat Raphael: South central la so I have a perspective of seeing how it was and how it is, and in reality we all have it.

436
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Pat Raphael: witnessing the dismantling of the middle class.

437
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Pat Raphael: For our eyes and things are happening, where the middle class is.

438
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Pat Raphael: going backwards, so now what we have going on is white people that are being kicked out of the House are joining us because.

439
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Pat Raphael: there's always been in South central la la.

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Pat Raphael: The Mexicans that was acceptable, but now that.

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Pat Raphael: we're making it seem like it's not coming from other states, and it is coming from other states and other states have more strict rules and regulations.

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Pat Raphael: get them to open their own cars.

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Pat Raphael: Because we have a little bit more humane policies in California California and people in charge of California squandering money.

444
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Pat Raphael: Millions literally millions of bonds a measure was approved from the taxpayers and that's hard enough to do in itself, and it got done and then, when he was.

445
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Pat Raphael: A lady was saying they're spending ridiculous amounts on one individual and literally young man told me they put them in beverly hills and so and the people that you know, I was in there, buying.

446
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Pat Raphael: And a whole bunch of materials.

447
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Pat Raphael: They need every single item that they have their own house and everybody that's out here that.

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Pat Raphael: kind of style they're living in maintaining with creativity and adapting to the situation and they don't need.

449
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Pat Raphael: tunnel and they don't need.

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Pat Raphael: to live in, and so we have plenty of land and resources and we shouldn't let the people trying to figure out where they could fit in and where they could squeeze in before the authorities kick.

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Pat Raphael: Some other location and some other people have to do with it, but at the end of the thing who's gonna be the righteous as a business.

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Pat Raphael: In the room and stand up and say that we are all human beings and the middle class shouldn't be.

453
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Pat Raphael: dismantled, it should be growing, it should be moving forward, that was the American dream and one of the main things that.

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Pat Raphael: happened with the 2008 crash, is that they applied adjustable rate interest and they called in their loans in the name that's what really set it set it off.

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Pat Raphael: And so, a lot of people don't know the difference between a fixed rate and adjustable rate and the people that took the racetrack when the fees were doubling and tripling quadrupling was all.

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Pat Raphael: Government property forever.

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Pat Raphael: Sorry there's a group of runners going by on the boardwalk.

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Pat Raphael: i'd like to kind of get a sense.

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Pat Raphael: about what the what the response of the social service agencies have been in dawn's life, so what kind of contact, he has had from the people that have got the.

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Pat Raphael: social workers and caseworkers everywhere and also what kind of.

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Pat Raphael: interaction, he has been getting as a person living in his view.

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Brian Ulf: hey Pat, can you turn the camera around our view is directly into the sun, could you sit on the other side and have the.

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Brian Ulf: Computer, on the other side.

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Brian Ulf: There you go now, we can see you.

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frank murphy: Much better, much better.

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Brian Ulf: Thank you.

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Brian Ulf: and bring your partner in their next, yes, we can see him.

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Brian Ulf: yeah yeah much better, thank you.

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Pat Raphael: yeah so.

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Brian Ulf: Great question pat ask them those questions.

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Pat Raphael: yeah that's the thinking, I was trying to figure out what's the contact with the.

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Pat Raphael: agency volunteers and workers that are going up and down and in talking to all the people in your city housing.

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Pat Raphael: What happened, it seems to be the they flooded the area with people that just have jobs is to do nothing, and so.

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Pat Raphael: On it's totally totally inefficient and it totally could have been having a reverse effect if they would have hired people that are homeless in the first place.

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Pat Raphael: And then transition them into a housing that they could actually maintain because they have a job.

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Pat Raphael: But instead of giving them the jobs they give other people, the jobs and then these other people have other interpretations of the solutions because they're looking from the outside, in.

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Pat Raphael: Instead of having the people in the insight saying hey I don't need a laugh I just need a little a little.

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Pat Raphael: nook and cranny right to lay down and and and then go about my life throughout the day and maybe have somewhere to charge up and maybe somewhere to shower and the basics and but The thing is, is that.

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Pat Raphael: they're being.

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Brian Ulf: held a chain which agency, have you dealt with i've.

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Pat Raphael: spoken to all of them, I like speaking to people and figure out what's going on and, at the end of the day when coven head.

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Pat Raphael: They were doing shenanigans like a.

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Pat Raphael: passionate flyers and asking people to go to certain locations only for those people to go to the local locations on the same day and be told that those those locations were full and they were not accepting nobody.

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Pat Raphael: So it's that kind of stuff hiring people to send people to both places that already at maximum capacity that kind of shenanigans asking for help, or whatever, and then calling and then not getting any feedback not no no calls and return.

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Pat Raphael: On this whole bunch of inefficiencies, but the thing is, is that the reason it's inefficient is because, like I said they're bringing in people with outside solutions instead of insights solutions and.

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Pat Raphael: we're throwing money billions literally at the solution and then that's going to be used to justify why we shouldn't solve it, because the money, the money is being squandered so have you have you.

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Pat Raphael: Have you registered with angels.

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Pat Raphael: yeah.

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Pat Raphael: Urban.

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Pat Raphael: Green the green.

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Pat Raphael: Okay, so.

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Pat Raphael: So I mean me personally, I don't I don't really need help i'm more than anything, need the police to get off from you.

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Pat Raphael: And that was my main issue, the police thrown away my art, the police, targeting and criminalizing people for doing basic life things like life things like sleeping like at.

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Pat Raphael: Using police priority in order to harass people that are sleeping versus people that are criminalizing the Community at 123 breaking windows yelling and screaming breaking into cars breaking into people's properties and not doing them for everybody yeah that's for everybody and.

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Pat Raphael: So they have a habit, they have a habit that's been consistent of ignoring real prime and then criminalizing like smoking ganja.

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Pat Raphael: And and and and and ignoring the true violence, ignoring the true problems and so that's only allowing the numbers to rise up in order to create justification to hire more police, because the crime rates going up.

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Pat Raphael: that's ridiculous, you know and so there's all these different people that have their hands in the pie and they're trying to.

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Pat Raphael: grab as much as they can and so like I said it's not about money it's about having people in the inside, that have the inside view that can say hey We just need.

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Pat Raphael: We already have the resources we have city land state land county land Federal Land it's all these different bureaucracies have.

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Pat Raphael: have control of what's already ours that are our government is only a representation of us, they are not us, and so, because they are not us, they are doing what they want, and so as soon as they get hired to work for us.

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Pat Raphael: They betrayed us because they have their hand in the pilot and they get corporate welfare political welford and so when Bill Clinton had money.

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Pat Raphael: He ended welfare, I was, as we know it when we had a surplus of cash we have extra money in the bank and he decided to take from the poor people and that's the Democrat so.

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Pat Raphael: It doesn't matter if you're a democrat or republican leader at the end of the day when they become leaders, they want to lead the money to their pockets and that's what's happening repeatedly so So is there any other questions because i'm not seeing.

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Pat Raphael: With people on the ground that.

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Pat Raphael: have ever from our conversations showed a process that is even marginally meeting Denise is there any other questions amongst the folks that are listening.

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Pat Raphael: Most people are suffering from a failure of imagination, because the malleable fire for one day to the next one bunch of.

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Pat Raphael: homeless and so we live in earthquake country and that could be earthquake at any moment, and a whole bunch of people are going to be homeless, so we don't figure this out we're going to have a real problem on our on our hands when cast comes.

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Pat Raphael: And so it's best.

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Pat Raphael: organized and figure out how to deploy our local communities and figure out who's in our communities, because that's important to having random strangers intense that's not cool, so there is a balance, there is a balance, how things have to be, but when you let it be.

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Unregulated.

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Pat Raphael: And let it fester and areas that you designate because it's politically Okay, for them to be in certain locations not another's then that's that's that it almost seems a little changes to this point.

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Pat Raphael: Not okay place right in front of the library in the now let's.

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Pat Raphael: Because kids can't even use a library.

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frank murphy: yeah.

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frank murphy: um.

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frank murphy: question I have is.

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frank murphy: You know I agree with you 100%.

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frank murphy: Right hiring, why are we hiring new.

519
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frank murphy: People that already.

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Pat Raphael: Look what the only thing we're really talking about is eyesores because they're visible.

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Pat Raphael: And at the end of the day, we're talking about them being online on land that's visible, so all we have to do.

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Pat Raphael: Is create land that's available that's not visible and we could put up a gated fence with the palm trees printed on it so everybody to be okay with this and it could be in a.

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Pat Raphael: far out area but, at the end of the day, you don't have to provide a mansion for them denim green whatever way they bring in their stuff to live and let them live the way they live in it, but.

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Pat Raphael: You could actually control it to that point where you're you're not squandering resources because.

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Pat Raphael: you're not even spending money on building number of structures and plumbing and others you're just doing the basic get some porta potties get some land.

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Pat Raphael: don't criminalize them and put them in financial depth when you know they're pouring the first place, because if you're going to ticket them and ask them for money that's not going to solve the problem, so repeatedly ticket and and people for sleeping is super ridiculous.

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Pat Raphael: In listening so like you'd like packing up.

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Pat Raphael: The voice of Andre Bernard like you know i'm on the same and there's a gentleman named Kevin on the camp that actually spoke to the participant he came over there, and he said, what do you guys need he stood up he got and he was like.

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Pat Raphael: me, but he broke it down and let him know that all we needed was was the restroom facilities.

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Pat Raphael: Okay, they said okay we'll have him there in two weeks, they never showed up and now they're shooting.

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Pat Raphael: Would you go to the library.

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Pat Raphael: It kind of smells like crap depend on what direction the wind is blowing so not dealing with it does it make it go away in a waiting for it to become crisis level just forces you to want to be over heavy handed when there's a lot of steps along the way, that can show that.

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Pat Raphael: We don't seem to want to put our energy.

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vicki halliday: Please pat.

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Pat Raphael: It seems like the money can just be spent policing and in other ways, so.

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Pat Raphael: yeah it's it's it's a frustration for the folks on the ground in a way that.

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Pat Raphael: That we can't we can't ignore at this point.

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frank murphy: let's get some other.

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frank murphy: want to call out, I think you are raising your hand.

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Pat Raphael: say the voice of entrepreneur that's all I mean if anybody has a question for me i'll be happy.

541
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vicki halliday: To quiet, the call that has one.

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C Bailey: Oh i'll ask a question, so this is going to be very blunt, I mean both you guys seem like very articulate intelligent young men why aren't you working why aren't you in.

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C Bailey: Society, like the rest of us can, why are you out in the street.

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C Bailey: And I know you may have already answered it, but this is more like.

545
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C Bailey: what's what's stopping you at this.

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C Bailey: Point because I don't.

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C Bailey: I don't see you as someone who can't function you don't seem like someone who's got mental illness.

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Pat Raphael: Drug addiction ever.

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Pat Raphael: I have no drug problem, no alcohol problem i'm a vegetarian I just smoked weed and i'm in control of my.

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Pat Raphael: of my facilities, I think, and I contemplate and so yeah I could work for a think tank and get paid so at the end of the day, i'm getting.

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Pat Raphael: not paid to think and I enjoyed that, because then I don't have to do anything for anybody because I could work for everybody and not work for what was immediate.

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Pat Raphael: answer you asked when she asked why aren't you working because you're on mute at the time you're right I work for myself, I just said, I am working yeah I am working I work for myself i'm an artist i'm a i'm a thinker.

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Pat Raphael: i'm a problem solver I help people and there's a bartering system and Venice beach when you have a reputation for having integrity, then more people want to deal with you and so.

554
00:56:54.540 --> 00:57:03.060
Pat Raphael: The false assumptions of how a homeless person is supposed to be, is one of the main things we do have to indeed deal with and so i'm.

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Pat Raphael: At the end of the day, I, like all I can say is that nobody needs to pay me for me to feel okay.

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Pat Raphael: I could be okay without money and I don't need money our me trinkets I don't need a house I don't need flashy shiny things to be okay, and when I die i'm gonna i'm gonna die and not take none of that stuck with me anyways so I don't have no value for it.

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C Bailey: Do you think it's Okay, that those of us who do work, who do go out and pay taxes and earn a living and do all that.

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C Bailey: And i'm not and you guys personally but don't want to see this in our streets on it.

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Pat Raphael: If.

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Pat Raphael: If one person is one person is being rob is not justification for another person to be robbed and, conversely, if one person is being overly tax is not okay for.

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Pat Raphael: Everybody to be already taxed and one of the main things that's leading to homeless list and i'm glad you mentioned taxes.

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Pat Raphael: Is property taxes, because guess what it's an illusion, the American dream of owning property is an illusion, if they could take it away and kick out our elderly if they cannot pay.

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Pat Raphael: Property taxes forever there's, not even a set time that when you're at you don't have to pay property taxes, no more and there's not a set time and not only that there's not a fixed fee it's.

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Pat Raphael: An adjustable fee, based on the the current property value so that's another messed up thing that they're doing to the elderly that have gotten into the property market at a low price accumulated.

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Pat Raphael: This whole value of it's based on who knows what but and then penalize them to pay more, because the houses Fort worth board that makes sense to you man.

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C Bailey: Do you feel actually prop 13 keeps that from happening.

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C Bailey: But there are people at.

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Pat Raphael: The jarvis what you're talking about that's just only in California.

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C Bailey: And at the end of the day, the.

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Pat Raphael: Corporations took advantage of that and the residential people, it was meant for them, and so, then people that have humongous acres of ownership of land in California are getting scot free and not paying taxes, because of that, and so that needs to be separated.

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Pat Raphael: corporate taxes and regular mom and pop people trying to have a little teepee to live in, and so you need to know the difference, but.

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C Bailey: Can you can you can you have a teepee not down the street from us from a home that's right.

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that's the point.

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Pat Raphael: that's what we're talking about.

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Pat Raphael: own we all have a share we're a shareholder in the corporation of America we own the land, the government is only a representative of us this land is available readily available, we have.

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Pat Raphael: been untamed land but yeah you guys want to fight and squabble over over a little piece of property that everybody's trying to hold on to and just live, they just want to live and be and exist and so that's the point that you have to have common sense to realize.

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Pat Raphael: They don't exist.

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Pat Raphael: yeah i'm not trying to be problematic or argumentative.

579
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Pat Raphael: um people have to exist, and if they don't assists here and we move on somewhere else, they still have to exist and so why not.

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Pat Raphael: put them in land that we already own and we don't even have to pay taxes or fees, because we already own it, and then we can put a wall around it and then put some mortal.

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Pat Raphael: Bodies inside of it and electricity and nobody's going to see what's going on in there and then they could have you could actually pay some security from from people that that are in there, then know that have.

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Pat Raphael: High respect and a high integrity, because people are different, not all homeless are are are horrible individual there's good people and bad people in all fields.

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Pat Raphael: And so you have to find a good people in power, the good people, and then you don't have to worry about it, because they have an inside view they know exactly who's who's causing the problem and they know how to deal with the problem, thank you Elizabeth right.

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Pat Raphael: Questions Elizabeth right.

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Elizabeth Wright: If you feel comfortable, would you share with us how you.

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Elizabeth Wright: went from having a roof over your head to not having a roof.

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Pat Raphael: i'll tell you um we were paying rent to Mr Bob it for 30 years and he did not want to sell the property, even though we had.

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Pat Raphael: money to pay for it and and he had we asked several times, through the through the through that 30 year period, and he said no, because his philosophy was accumulating properties.

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Pat Raphael: To his portfolio he didn't want to invest in Wall Street he wanted to invest in properties.

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Pat Raphael: He was he was a slumlord there was no problem, we would fix the property we maintain the property, we were just happy that he wasn't in our life listeners.

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Pat Raphael: And so, at the end, the day, what happened was he had the audacity to sell the property, without even warning my family so from one day to the next one guy comes yelling and screaming for us to leave.

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Pat Raphael: And we didn't believe them we thought was some crazy guy down the street, but it turned out to be the truth, the owner sold the property without giving my family a month warning that.

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Pat Raphael: After living there 30 years we had to move that's what happened, and so, by the time my family enter the housing market that the housing market was.

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Pat Raphael: ridiculously high they couldn't afford to live in this Community anymore, so they move far away and I refused to leave because.

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Pat Raphael: At the end of the day this happen, I believe, because my fault, because I joined occupy Wall Street, and I was protesting for a month in downtown la.

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Pat Raphael: And then, when the police raided us because there was like 1000 of us, and we were just growing and growing teacher from joining us joining us union members were joining us and we were the 99% we didn't.

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Pat Raphael: We weren't on nobody side because we were on everybody side, and I did something horrible according to the police, which was I I organized the artists and we were doing our outreach and when the police raided I had all my friends that I met over there.

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Pat Raphael: To my house and they use my house as a headquarters to do art in a community to clean to do murals to pass out food to the homeless and then next you know i'm homeless that's what happened.

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Elizabeth Wright: Thank you.

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frank murphy: All right.

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vicki halliday: A couple of hands up in the audience um let's.

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Pat Raphael: See, I mean anybody anybody that knows anything about property when you buy a property, you want to look at it before you buy it they didn't even look at it.

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Pat Raphael: yeah this was a they paid this man so much money he couldn't resist his way of doing business that he sold the property, without even having any little bit of compassion to tell my mom and family hey get ready, you have to leave.

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Pat Raphael: So that kind of.

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Pat Raphael: Dealing with.

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frank murphy: Okay.

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frank murphy: let's run.

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vicki halliday: And we've got audience our hands up frank shawna Brian go ahead.

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Sean obrien: hey joy to your perspective big question I have when you talk about the the city, the county whatever squandering money we have the new program the circle team with urban alchemy i've talked to him a few times when they were walking around.

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Sean obrien: They don't really seem to be having an impact are doing much other than nope nope keeping i'd love to hear your experiences with them and are they helpful, thank you.

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vicki halliday: Thank you sure.

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Pat Raphael: That The thing is, is that it's not visible if they are are not helping us because the numbers are growing, and we have people coming from other areas that are being shut down.

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Pat Raphael: Like ECHO park and and other areas of the state and cities and everywhere else there's people that are moving from one spot to the next spot, so you might help everybody out.

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Pat Raphael: Here, that are here today, but tomorrow there's new arrivals there's always new arrivals new people and people moving on to other locations, we see this yeah.

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Pat Raphael: And so, at the end of the day, i'm even even what they're doing is not enough, even if they were even if the word operating efficiently.

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Pat Raphael: They don't have the resources to do the job because they're squandering the resources in the first place and i'm sure it's not the rank and file.

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Pat Raphael: that the decision of how the spend the money is coming from the top management of those organizations, and so I could tell you for a fact, though, that they're squandering the money buying a whole bunch of expensive.

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Pat Raphael: material for those rooms and houses that they're putting these people in that they these people don't even want or need because they're coming right back out here to sell it so.

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Pat Raphael: Somebody that has a drug problem doesn't need to have their own house, full of new brand new stuff.

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Pat Raphael: you're only facilitating has drug need and drug use and then you're disqualifying somebody that actually would value that stuff and so i'm at the end, the day why even spend your money on that stuff when you don't have to and that's what we're talking about spending money unnecessarily.

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frank murphy: All right.

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vicki halliday: Thank you i've got a column user one, so please go ahead.

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Call-In User_1: Can you hear me.

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vicki halliday: Yes, we.

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Call-In User_1: Just enjoying part of society, out of here in the helicopter I wanted to know, are you concerned about should you reach a retirement age and how you'll be eligible for social security and to have you been formerly re.

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Call-In User_1: evaluated to determine your diagnosis and if you are able to function in what is considered the norms of society, thank you.

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frank murphy: i'm not sure.

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Pat Raphael: It sounds like she's concerned about retirement and The thing is, is that with the things are the way things are going with inflation.

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Pat Raphael: they're pretty much putting our whole currencies reputation on the line by doing the quantitative easing.

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Pat Raphael: One quantitative easing two and the European year old they're doing the same thing and i'm them printing money is devaluing the money that exists, so it takes more money to buy the actual stuff that really exist, the material stuff and so more.

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Pat Raphael: Money for paper, money is chasing the real stuff and so social security retirement um a lot of that is being squandered in this lifetime right now.

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Pat Raphael: As we speak, right now, because there's not going to be no future with this currency if they keep on printing printing printing printing printing money.

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Pat Raphael: And there was a huge point in time, where they have zero percent interest and they pretty much swallowed up the whole world when they had zero percent interest and so now they.

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Pat Raphael: are letting them regular mom and POPs into the housing market well it's already super duper inflated so in South central la you have million dollar homes.

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Pat Raphael: So if you guys think there's millionaires in South central la that's not the case, but the property starting to reach a million dollars.

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Pat Raphael: In South central la, which is a ghetto, and so um the money's flooding the system, the liquidity is flooding the system and buying real world assets mind.

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frank murphy: How does that relate back to the I think what our question is is you're going to hit a certain point where you your retirement is going to be necessary, how are you going to handle that.

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frank murphy: You know you're managing now but you're managing at a very.

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frank murphy: you're you're.

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frank murphy: Managing at a at a subsistence level and now you're going to be not able to manage.

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Pat Raphael: and meet.

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Pat Raphael: me personally me personally i'm always going to be okay, because I have a method of seeing the world of certain way and and.

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Pat Raphael: It is mine over matter and so mind over matter knows, there is a solution, and there is a solution to all problems and that's my number one.

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Pat Raphael: qualification, I like this i'm a troubleshooter and that's been since I was a child, and I love solving problems and so any problem that comes my way, I know how to navigate it and overcome it and so i'd like to ask the lady has she been evaluated Lewis, she can function in society.

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vicki halliday: Let her, let me let her talk again color one they're asking you a question, can you respond.

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frank murphy: looks like your phone's been cut.

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frank murphy: yeah.

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Call-In User_1: i've never had to be because I don't live in my own film I don't.

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Call-In User_1: rob I don't I live within the norms of society, I abide by the rules, my car is registered, but I have a street full of cars that are not registered and because parking enforcement can't give a ticket, because they are legally part correctly and because of.

650
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Call-In User_1: not able to pull over because a person doesn't have an has an expired registration they can't be pulled over and be in be.

651
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Call-In User_1: ticketed for a warning you need to update your register, but they're able to function freely until they run over somebody and kill somebody.

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Call-In User_1: which it has been proven, there has been homeless people who have hit and run people on the street, I again I haven't needed to be evaluated, I have a job I get a paycheck.

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Call-In User_1: I abide by the law, I don't sit in my car and wonder how i'm going to function, the rest of the day when I see a bicyclist coming up from my rearview mirror oh i'm gonna hit every single car coming up the street.

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Call-In User_1: hits my.

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Call-In User_1: Side view mirror bus his hand open hit and run comes back because he's injured and he comes to tell me it's my fault i'm the one who has lady like sensibility not to push him into traffic.

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Call-In User_1: I when i'm going to the supermarket i'm walking out with a paid.

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Call-In User_1: wagon full of groceries but I can't leave the store, why was that, because the store employees are trying to prevent a shoplifter clearly homeless from leaving the store I can't exit my front door, because there is a homeless person.

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Call-In User_1: told me naked as the day he was born.

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Call-In User_1: Just walk up and down the street I can't walk down the street, because there is a nother homeless person who is walking with a baseball BAT I can't walk up the street, because at night I care.

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Call-In User_1: Because my street lights have been.

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frank murphy: got some other.

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Call-In User_1: guys have been broken into copper wire stolen, but there.

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Call-In User_1: is why.

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frank murphy: I understand your rage, let them react.

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vicki halliday: I wouldn't just laugh at that we all live with.

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well.

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Pat Raphael: Because she's upset I mean it's I find the humor is that she's so upset because at the end of the day, angry people or anything about me me me me me cuz that's what.

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Pat Raphael: anger is when you're all it has to be this way and if it's not this way i'm going to be upset and all of that it's not going to help solve the problem, and so.

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Pat Raphael: By her thinking that only certain people do certain things that she's missing the boat completely because there's been a whole bunch of house people that have done a whole bunch of horrible crimes this kid that had a House recently just sorry.

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vicki halliday: I think we don't need the examples I think your point is made.

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vicki halliday: up next week release of redmond and you can stop laughing pat.

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vicki halliday: Go ahead Lisa.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Frankly i'm really embarrassed at this, you know one hand the roundtables should be an opportunity for people to learn and educate themselves that not everybody can live having a nine to five job that not everyone has to have a social security program but yet at the same time.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: it's a gracious to me that a fellow committee Member will mean another fellow committee Member saying why don't you have a job, why don't you have a job that fits into my parameters.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: it's embarrassing that vicki is dictating what you can be fine humorous or not, it just really this is turned into a very bad cable actually a.

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vicki halliday: lot i'm leaving i'm leaving because.

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frank murphy: I.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Was.

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frank murphy: Like how do I get it on the show you're very, very good person, thank you.

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Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: don't.

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vicki halliday: kalani your next up, please.

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Kalani W: Thank you very entertaining.

683
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Kalani W: I am a person that has been evaluated, I was evaluated, because I suffered a brain injury at 43.

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peak.

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Kalani W: peak earning years I did not end up homeless or a burden to society.

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Kalani W: I hear a lot of over analysis paralysis says a lot of method to your madness and excuses upon excuses, and you know it just reminds me a lot of those those hippies that invaded my home state of Hawaii back in the 60s, who were turning on tuning in and dropping out.

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Kalani W: and

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Kalani W: They somehow found their way.

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Kalani W: into communes briefly and then somehow they became members of society, because we were not dealing with the mental health issues and the drug abuse issues that we're dealing with now, and now I believe that government has over coddle now we've.

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Kalani W: we've over coddled.

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Kalani W: These the people who are squatting our streets, to the point where they know all the key talking points they know all the buzzwords.

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Kalani W: It is difficult to even believe much of what they're saying, because so much of it has been fed to them by homeless rights activists, possibly even possibly even some who are on this call, who are so Soviet mentally pro homelessness rights.

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Kalani W: And I do believe that we, we as a caring society need to help those less fortunate, because I was one of those who is less fortunate when I suffered my brain injury, but, and I was put on a because I was not thinking properly because of my brain injury.

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Kalani W: And I and that mandate forced those 48 hours allowed my friends to convince me that I was truly sick come to find out, I had a serious brain injury, that I was unaware of.

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Kalani W: But because I had been I was forced into treatment, it was mandated upon me because, after I was literally taken to emergency in an ambulance I tried to escape because I wasn't thinking property, I thought i'm only two blocks from home I.

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frank murphy: kalani what's the question.

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Kalani W: The question is.

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Kalani W: If you received all of your wishes, packed you know the the electricity the land and left alone and everything but, but that was in the outline parts of the city or county.

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Kalani W: Would you move from where you're at and go to that facility if treatment and treatment was required for for for whatever is is forcing you out of the norms of society.

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Kalani W: and

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Kalani W: Very and forcing you on to public spaces, like the streets or or the fish.

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frank murphy: Thank you economy.

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frank murphy: Do you guys want to respond to that because.

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Pat Raphael: The thing is, is that these people are not being coddled it's the opposite, because there is indeed a mental health.

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Pat Raphael: problem there's a lot of people that have mental issues and bigger than that we have a fentanyl issue that it's going to become a lot worse, even though 100,000 people have recently died.

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Pat Raphael: Last year, and the years previously it's just added up to the hundred thousand and it's just increasing because now they're putting fentanyl and all the rest of the drugs so they're sneaking in fencing all into all these other drugs and so.

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Pat Raphael: they're not being coddled they're being killed literally and the government, they are not doing nothing about it they're letting the Community.

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Pat Raphael: be filled and flooded with fentanyl and now these young kids are not even asking for the regular drugs are asking directly for that drug fentanyl and so.

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Pat Raphael: That drug is killing people and it's coming from China and that's money that's being imported, and so our borders, not being protected so that's another abdication of responsibility from our government and.

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Pat Raphael: it's not it's not being addressed it's not a heroin epidemic it's up fentanyl epidemic and once it hits all the rest of the drugs from.

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Pat Raphael: oxy cotton, I had a role and anything other kind of pills, that you can imagine they're just putting it in anything just to sneak it into people's videos and so so asking for treatment for somebody doesn't even.

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Pat Raphael: becomes that sense of infantilizing that often makes grown ups like things like this on for them right, so if you're saying in order for me to access services, you have to treat me like a child right a lot of people who take care of themselves because.

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Pat Raphael: I don't want to speak for done, but he doesn't really live in a public space, I mean he's got his little contained area where all of his stuff is right and.

714
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Pat Raphael: Even though he doesn't have a house he's a member of the Community, so I I I feel like a lot of times.

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Pat Raphael: People are dealing with a caricature a straw man in their head and then they're applying that to everybody, because if you aren't like me, you must be.

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Pat Raphael: Somebody with a problem, and I think that's hard to uh that's hard to come to solutions with that kind of thinking, because it's only going to try to.

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Pat Raphael: Try to.

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Pat Raphael: over China handle people and and not everybody needs to be handled in that way, though, as Donna was saying there is mental health there's drug issues there's alcohol and in some of those needs to be addressed.

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frank murphy: Okay.

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vicki halliday: We have one more hand up on TIM, do you like to ask something.

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Tim: yeah hey guys interesting conversation the pat and don think tank is definitely super interesting so appreciate you guys answering all these questions.

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Tim: One thing I wanted to ask, and you said that anger comes from people being me me me me.

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Tim: And in this situation, I really disagree, I think what makes me angry about the homeless situation is that all of the people that live in Venice have at some point experienced a situation where they've been afraid.

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Tim: You go to the grocery store The other day I saw a guy who works at whole foods getting berated by a homeless woman, because she didn't like the way the peppers locked, what is your guys thoughts on how to handle those folks and what's a reasonable approach from your guy's perspective.

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Pat Raphael: At the end of the day, it's your House, the alarm or house or or or you have a yard, or what whatever thing you have going on it's not okay to hurt people, and if we have to please doing their job, then they would actually do with the people hurting people and that's what i'm talking about.

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Pat Raphael: nobody's saying do not lock up people that are criminalizing nobody said that but there's a difference between a criminal and somebody.

727
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That lost their house.

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Pat Raphael: One way or another, and so, at the end of the day, i'm being fearful because of somebody approaching you.

729
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Pat Raphael: or doing some behavior could come from anybody, it could come from somebody with the House or or a mansion or anything else so having trinkets and possessions doesn't make you a good person.

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Pat Raphael: And so we got good and bad people everywhere and so that's what we need to separate the people that really are righteous really want to solve the problem.

731
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Pat Raphael: And, but people that just want to be haters and want to trip it up and fumbling and then blame and that can contaminate down.

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Pat Raphael: Those are two separate energies So if you want to create and build and collaborate.

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Pat Raphael: that's a positive way forward and so at the end of the day, we're gonna have problems, but if we hire people that that's their job to like the 19 police officers, they stood outside the door why those children were being killed, they are.

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Pat Raphael: Armed paid trained to deal with that, but they didn't and that's what we're talking about that.

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Pat Raphael: we're spending money approving bond measures to get money for homelessness and the people in charge are still in it, and the same things happening with our children's schools they're privatizing the La USD.

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Pat Raphael: Giving it away to charters and all of those buildings that were built were supposed to be brand new buildings for the La USD but instead of giving those buildings so la la who is Dean, they gave those brand new buildings to the Charter schools.

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frank murphy: All right.

738
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vicki halliday: What can we got one more hand up i'm Andrew.

739
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vicki halliday: Go ahead.

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andrew: hi, it is the question before no I was just wondering what your thoughts are on on two things harm reduction strategies and then on tiny home or tiny shelter villages that are elsewhere in the city, thank you.

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Pat Raphael: We figured out how to solve a lot of the problems, based on that.

742
01:25:04.860 --> 01:25:12.000
Pat Raphael: When you approach somebody that's doing something wrong and it's only one person approaching that person that person usually tries to make it personal.

743
01:25:12.330 --> 01:25:17.190
Pat Raphael: And that's, the key to not make it personal because it's not personal if you tell somebody because.

744
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Pat Raphael: There was a point where a guy was peeing in broad daylight, and I post them and I told him that that was not okay what he was doing, and he was drunk and he wanted to fight me and then I told him hey.

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Pat Raphael: At the end of the day, i'm telling you for your own good, because you're going to end up in jail as a sex offender if you don't put your we'll wait.

746
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Pat Raphael: And then he stumbled and I said, this is not a fighting situation, this is me trying to help you and then stop it backwards and he got Ahold of himself and there was no fight.

747
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Pat Raphael: And so, at the end of the day, if I tell somebody something.

748
01:25:48.900 --> 01:25:58.980
Pat Raphael: And then somebody else of firms it hey buddy we're not violent right here we're having a good time conversation discussing things and you're welcome to come in conversation with us, but if you want to fight it and fight pad.

749
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Pat Raphael: it's not cool had told us not cool with that you know just goes to the beach is humongous go somewhere else.

750
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Pat Raphael: And do your thing and meditate or get it out and we're not the problem, and you have problems, so we can help you, with your Angers.

751
01:26:11.700 --> 01:26:24.180
Pat Raphael: being directed at us, because we don't we don't want to set of violence and so at the end we're not fighting ourselves in, and he was recently attack and his window was broken and and when he told me.

752
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Pat Raphael: I told him oh your windows broken, no real fix it and he didn't, believe me, and at the end of the day, his window was fixed because I had a piece of plexiglass and I I measured the window that wasn't broken and I cut it and I put it on his window door that was broken so number.

753
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Pat Raphael: Often, where.

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Pat Raphael: we're saying how can we enable people so that they don't hurt themselves, while they're doing something that's dysfunctional I myself have never thought that that was the approach but but but.

755
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Pat Raphael: I I don't know what what what what the solution for it should be, because we don't want dirty needles to create a problem but.

756
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Pat Raphael: there's also a line where people feel like oh now i'm comfortable to be on drugs right so we're not just people so it's hard for us to to to look at what it's doing to people and then saying.

757
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What can we.

758
01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:45.900
Pat Raphael: Help and continue I I I don't know what the solution is but a lot of them on reduction techniques, seem to me to just be a.

759
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Pat Raphael: Harm enabling.

760
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Pat Raphael: while reducing some other facets.

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Pat Raphael: home and that's the key that tiny homes, thank you for the man mentioning the tiny homes that's what it is.

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01:28:05.040 --> 01:28:11.340
Pat Raphael: it's not a mansion it's a tiny little tiny home that's how they need and it's a little bigger than a tip but.

763
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Pat Raphael: What some sort of regulated or order to it it's not a free for all, a wild Wild West ended up at the library, because it can be anywhere right when there's if they were to be.

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Pat Raphael: Hard in tiny homes created to solve the problem, it would be thoughtful where we put them we wouldn't just put them anywhere in with the tense situations, the way it is now people get in where they fit in because there's nowhere else to go.

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frank murphy: I agree um.

766
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frank murphy: hey pat change time thanks I really appreciate it, and the.

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frank murphy: inputs gonna be digested.

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frank murphy: And we'll go from there.

769
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frank murphy: um we've got committee comments.

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frank murphy: On items that weren't on the agenda, seen as there's nothing on the agenda, the committee can comment on just about anything um.

771
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frank murphy: Any other input from the Committee.

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C Bailey: And I have one sentence just in general.

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C Bailey: Just after hearing.

774
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C Bailey: hearing that pat and i'm sorry I forgot your name you're very articulate but I don't mean to disrespect I forgot your name.

775
01:29:42.210 --> 01:29:43.890
Pat Raphael: Oh that's my friend dawn.

776
01:29:44.820 --> 01:29:45.330
Sorry.

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C Bailey: I feel like we need to look at this and we've said this before and and and the homeless.

778
01:29:53.880 --> 01:30:01.800
C Bailey: The the what's who's out there and who's homeless you've got the mentally ill they've got to be separated and dealt with.

779
01:30:02.670 --> 01:30:15.570
C Bailey: Different and completely separate you know way of handling them until you've got drug addicted people who needs to be handled differently than the mentally ill and then you've got people who.

780
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C Bailey: who have both probably need to be handled and then there's there's going to be people who don't want to conform and don't want to live in the same way, the rest of us do, but the rest of us don't want them living on our streets.

781
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C Bailey: How do we give them a place to live that's humane that gives them dignity and respect.

782
01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:46.410
C Bailey: If we could separate those groups and say okay and deal with them separately.

783
01:30:47.700 --> 01:30:50.280
C Bailey: and give the each group the help they need then.

784
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C Bailey: I don't know, maybe i'm rambling I don't want to ramble too much, but.

785
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C Bailey: that's that's my take.

786
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frank murphy: Points well taken.

787
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frank murphy: I mean, are there, multiple issues.

788
01:31:05.910 --> 01:31:06.510
C Bailey: Yes.

789
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frank murphy: And there's diving into it there's multiple people every i'm.

790
01:31:10.530 --> 01:31:20.010
frank murphy: sure every person is a whole different set of issues and so it's that's why the questions were really you know, like where'd you come from, how do you.

791
01:31:20.520 --> 01:31:35.880
frank murphy: How did you react to it, what facilitated it, you know the the whole concept of being able to participate quote unquote in society well.

792
01:31:36.600 --> 01:31:48.270
frank murphy: You know you got to have outsiders, and you got to have insiders you know, and so, but that doesn't mean one overwhelms the other and when you've got 3% of the population dictating what.

793
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frank murphy: 97% of the population are to have to endure.

794
01:31:56.970 --> 01:31:58.080
frank murphy: you've got a problem.

795
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C Bailey: And that's why we have anger.

796
01:32:00.840 --> 01:32:03.660
frank murphy: And that's why the anger, but the anger.

797
01:32:09.480 --> 01:32:10.110
frank murphy: You know.

798
01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:21.120
frank murphy: We were supposed to read, we, the answers to these questions, they were answered many, many years ago.

799
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frank murphy: The.

800
01:32:25.620 --> 01:32:29.160
frank murphy: The powers that be chose not to.

801
01:32:31.320 --> 01:32:37.530
frank murphy: implement those answers and that's been going on for decades.

802
01:32:40.380 --> 01:32:48.810
frank murphy: Now there might be 30 different answers to how to deal with these issues and on all those different levels that you break them out at.

803
01:32:51.660 --> 01:32:54.060
frank murphy: But those 30 different answers are out there.

804
01:32:55.500 --> 01:32:56.670
frank murphy: it's just that.

805
01:32:58.440 --> 01:33:06.210
frank murphy: there's there's there's you know so so we're dictated with trying to handle all of the.

806
01:33:07.500 --> 01:33:08.640
frank murphy: All of the.

807
01:33:10.050 --> 01:33:16.170
frank murphy: You know that we need an answer to this right now, today, so all the answers have been out there for 30 years.

808
01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:19.200
frank murphy: This is not new stuff.

809
01:33:21.270 --> 01:33:30.270
frank murphy: And so you know, I have a bit of a problem when they dump it on to like say the homeless committee and say, well, the homeless committee isn't doing it.

810
01:33:31.140 --> 01:33:46.650
frank murphy: Well, we can't do anything we're an advisory panel we're not here to function, as you know, to solve the problem we're here to educate as to how we see the problem in our local community.

811
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frank murphy: So I think that there's a lot of stuff that's going on, that is.

812
01:33:56.640 --> 01:33:58.560
frank murphy: very, very difficult for.

813
01:34:01.050 --> 01:34:04.590
frank murphy: me to stomach and certainly to to.

814
01:34:06.480 --> 01:34:17.070
frank murphy: On both sides of the issue, whether it's the House or the House it's just this is not acceptable anyhow that's my rant sorry.

815
01:34:24.690 --> 01:34:25.890
frank murphy: anybody else have.

816
01:34:28.380 --> 01:34:30.210
frank murphy: anything they want to chip in.

817
01:34:31.770 --> 01:34:33.120
Elizabeth Wright: yep yeah um.

818
01:34:34.350 --> 01:34:35.910
Elizabeth Wright: I would like to invite.

819
01:34:38.010 --> 01:34:48.900
Elizabeth Wright: Everyone in the Community to submit their ideas for things that they homeless, this committee of the neighborhood Council can actually do.

820
01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:55.170
Elizabeth Wright: Are there specific needs, that we can help.

821
01:34:56.400 --> 01:34:57.240
Elizabeth Wright: satisfy.

822
01:35:03.480 --> 01:35:04.320
Elizabeth Wright: We want to hear.

823
01:35:05.520 --> 01:35:14.760
Elizabeth Wright: What is it that homeless people in Venice actually need that we can have a hand in providing.

824
01:35:18.570 --> 01:35:21.450
Elizabeth Wright: So, if you would submit those to the.

825
01:35:22.530 --> 01:35:23.160
Elizabeth Wright: Committee.

826
01:35:24.570 --> 01:35:28.500
Elizabeth Wright: Then I would like to see what we actually can do.

827
01:35:29.550 --> 01:35:30.480
Elizabeth Wright: As a committee.

828
01:35:38.430 --> 01:35:45.150
frank murphy: got it any any That would be good to get just to get started on be specific.

829
01:35:47.940 --> 01:35:48.900
frank murphy: anybody else.

830
01:35:50.430 --> 01:36:07.560
Pat Raphael: I think an audit of the locally available land from the city in the county and the State what's available and then an audit of the money that's floating in for these issues to see how the money is being spent and how it's being allocated and then at the end get some type of.

831
01:36:11.580 --> 01:36:14.910
Pat Raphael: responsibility and accountability, out of those who are spending the money.

832
01:36:15.120 --> 01:36:17.340
Pat Raphael: But remember when you have an audit.

833
01:36:17.490 --> 01:36:18.210
If we.

834
01:36:19.980 --> 01:36:28.470
Pat Raphael: Of the land, because I was one of the earliest things we voted for when we asked to get all of the different available properties.

835
01:36:29.430 --> 01:36:29.940
consent.

836
01:36:31.110 --> 01:36:31.530
vicki halliday: done.

837
01:36:31.560 --> 01:36:33.300
frank murphy: Right that's on the side.

838
01:36:33.300 --> 01:36:42.780
Pat Raphael: I remember you guys remember what happened after that that gave the haters something to point to so that they could say hey they're trying to take away all of our parks.

839
01:36:43.170 --> 01:36:44.250
frank murphy: And then not I don't.

840
01:36:46.170 --> 01:36:58.530
frank murphy: know that was it was a bit more nuanced than that that I disagree with you on that one, and the response was a bit more nuanced it didn't it didn't he hasn't produced anything but it but it's.

841
01:37:00.750 --> 01:37:07.350
Pat Raphael: not producing anytime you come out of any of those properties we're not moving through insane.

842
01:37:07.380 --> 01:37:09.120
These are the ones that are stats.

843
01:37:10.740 --> 01:37:11.820
frank murphy: That was my point.

844
01:37:12.270 --> 01:37:16.830
frank murphy: That was my point is why aren't we seeing anything we know what the solution.

845
01:37:16.830 --> 01:37:17.640
Pat Raphael: Is no.

846
01:37:18.750 --> 01:37:27.990
frank murphy: yeah I agree with you, but I, but I, but it was a new a lot more nuanced reactions were a lot more nuanced than that at least in my mind.

847
01:37:29.430 --> 01:37:32.070
vicki halliday: and run galperin the controller did do.

848
01:37:33.090 --> 01:37:36.000
vicki halliday: A pretty big audit of where.

849
01:37:37.020 --> 01:37:47.940
vicki halliday: Some of these monies have gone and it's pretty egregious some of it yeah I mean you know when you think that the Director of St Joseph Center is making this.

850
01:37:48.780 --> 01:38:07.560
vicki halliday: I forget the number I can't put it right now but it's it's a very large yearly salary and you know the the portion of their monies that goes to actual outreach and actual helping is very small compared to their yearly budget.

851
01:38:09.300 --> 01:38:28.950
vicki halliday: which goes for more fundraising activities for offices for pretty good salaries um and their stuff like that that when you start digging into it it's it's pretty it's interesting it's disappointing because the money is not the bulk of the money is not going.

852
01:38:30.360 --> 01:38:32.190
vicki halliday: To where it should, in my opinion.

853
01:38:33.330 --> 01:38:39.840
vicki halliday: And that's to people who need it, not the people who are handing out croissants on the street.

854
01:38:44.490 --> 01:38:47.130
Brian Ulf: You can't sharpen a pencil with no bid contracts.

855
01:38:48.270 --> 01:38:49.200
frank murphy: No kidding.

856
01:38:49.620 --> 01:38:57.330
Brian Ulf: Okay, so that's just every one of those contracts are all the same they're all dead they're all handed out who's next in line.

857
01:38:58.830 --> 01:39:09.090
C Bailey: I think we're all agreeing that the money is being stolen, no matter what side of this issue we're on the money has been taken by somebody and it's not where it needs to be.

858
01:39:09.690 --> 01:39:15.960
Brian Ulf: Well that's what the elections, hopefully we'll do with the leadership there's people saying we're going to audit those.

859
01:39:16.650 --> 01:39:34.230
Brian Ulf: You know daily on the job this guy know they both back said that the monster on the median anything that was an excess of when galperin came out with a report saying there's five or $700,000 to build they all publicly stood up and said that money needs to be clawed back.

860
01:39:35.250 --> 01:39:45.420
Brian Ulf: And that's that's when daily own said, you know i'm going to do 25,000 units and by 2025 all these promises but he's on the homeless, poverty committee.

861
01:39:45.810 --> 01:39:57.810
Brian Ulf: As as Joe as as these other and it's going to be a vote right off the BAT for over a million dollars unit for the Venice media, I mean you've got to start climbing back and doing stuff.

862
01:39:59.280 --> 01:40:01.770
Brian Ulf: And and accountability, I mean.

863
01:40:01.830 --> 01:40:04.770
Brian Ulf: If you can hide behind hipaa and not have to show your results.

864
01:40:04.890 --> 01:40:06.330
Brian Ulf: Because it's a privacy issue.

865
01:40:07.260 --> 01:40:18.330
Brian Ulf: I mean we have to have accountability and factual numbers, how many people did you House how many people did this, how many people moved into hotels and her back out and centennial Park, where are they from.

866
01:40:18.600 --> 01:40:31.200
Brian Ulf: I mean it's not kicking the can I mean Lisa a lot of Lisa Reverend said, you know we're just kicking it down, but how many people went into bridge housing, how many people went in to tiny homes, how many people did that and they're back out again.

867
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Brian Ulf: And, and how do we deal with that you know I can't I can't believe we have no bathrooms in and centennial Park, yet we have portable bathrooms in the sanitation station.

868
01:40:44.910 --> 01:40:53.970
Brian Ulf: In the weapons, you know Next, I mean it's just so inhumane, I mean where where is Mike bonnen in our cities tan.

869
01:40:54.450 --> 01:41:00.600
Brian Ulf: centennial park needs to be cleaned up and needs to be cleaned up for the betterment of everybody.

870
01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:11.880
Brian Ulf: You know, we try to put in a tower and and do a camera situation Oh, we can't put it there, the city said no, we can't do toilets, here we can't do this or you've seen the videos that are being filmed in centennial park.

871
01:41:13.140 --> 01:41:20.490
Brian Ulf: it's outrageous Pat, I mean patent you both wouldn't want to be hanging out in centennial park when you see what's happening in the middle of the night.

872
01:41:21.720 --> 01:41:23.040
Pat Raphael: guys horrible we don't we don't.

873
01:41:23.670 --> 01:41:24.630
Brian Ulf: You don't go there.

874
01:41:24.690 --> 01:41:28.620
Brian Ulf: yeah but it's okay that it's right there and and.

875
01:41:29.130 --> 01:41:34.680
Pat Raphael: it's not okay that that there's violence marinating at three three in the morning because it's not supposed to be.

876
01:41:34.950 --> 01:41:48.900
Brian Ulf: But how do we, how do we stop that I mean I mean again the compassion that's in the Venice Community I mean we have over 60% of the homelessness that's that's in Council district 11 is right here in Venice right here and.

877
01:41:49.470 --> 01:41:56.970
Brian Ulf: How do you how do you how do you want to tell the neighbors with their children that this violence is going to happen at all hours of the night.

878
01:41:58.380 --> 01:42:00.120
Brian Ulf: 25 yards, from where they live.

879
01:42:01.680 --> 01:42:12.870
Brian Ulf: How, how do you tell I mean do you do get a neighborhood watch of let's say you guys put together a committee of 20 people we did this on skid row when I was on sleep and wine guard Center downtown.

880
01:42:13.410 --> 01:42:23.640
Brian Ulf: You know, we had what they called the guardian angels you've heard of that in the past that they identified as the Community residents, if you guys had an organized group of say 20 of you.

881
01:42:24.360 --> 01:42:32.400
Brian Ulf: That were managed and and and and brought together and had open meetings, just like what we're doing now, but let's get a group of 20 of you.

882
01:42:33.030 --> 01:42:41.820
Brian Ulf: And, and you guys kind of come up with a Community benefits agreement saying we won't allow that behavior to happen in centennial park.

883
01:42:42.600 --> 01:42:51.210
Brian Ulf: We won't allow that behavior to happen here or there, because this is our community to if everybody that's that's not housed.

884
01:42:51.870 --> 01:43:00.780
Brian Ulf: forms the ideas that you get you you, you were saying that hey the police can't do their job or this can happen well the police can't do the job because they've been told they can't do that.

885
01:43:01.410 --> 01:43:10.410
Brian Ulf: That they can't arrest people that are actually violating those crimes, how do we get to that would you be willing to put a group of 20 of you guys together and girls.

886
01:43:10.860 --> 01:43:20.730
Brian Ulf: That are homeless and farm a little coalition that we can do a think tank since your problem solver and let's sit in a room and and get the 20 people to start policing.

887
01:43:21.240 --> 01:43:30.330
Brian Ulf: And being guardian angels of the property, because you said you don't want to see it you go up to the person that's urinating you go up and have a decent conversation with them.

888
01:43:30.690 --> 01:43:41.460
Brian Ulf: If I do that i'm the bad guy if you do that, and you can get to them that's great, so why don't we enable you guys to to be part of this team to be part of this Community.

889
01:43:41.640 --> 01:43:49.920
Pat Raphael: and actually we have something already, we have been given money that's doing things like this you're getting.

890
01:43:51.720 --> 01:43:54.600
Brian Ulf: everything done less been less get another one pat.

891
01:43:55.080 --> 01:43:56.760
Brian Ulf: You put together a group of guys.

892
01:43:57.090 --> 01:44:00.540
Pat Raphael: And that's taking money for not for no effect.

893
01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:04.740
Brian Ulf: let's let's forget the money let's do it because it's the right thing to do.

894
01:44:06.150 --> 01:44:10.050
Brian Ulf: All right, just like we're here on this call, none of us are paid to be here.

895
01:44:11.640 --> 01:44:23.670
Brian Ulf: Okay we're here to give Community input and value I sit on the sea path Community Community please advisory board i'm the Chair of an organization that i'm the only person that doesn't get paid to be in any meeting that I go to.

896
01:44:24.630 --> 01:44:30.810
Brian Ulf: So let's do this together let's form a group you you form 20 people and we'll go meet.

897
01:44:32.070 --> 01:44:34.260
Brian Ulf: And then let's come up with a list of how we're going to fix it.

898
01:44:35.790 --> 01:44:39.630
Brian Ulf: You don't have to get paid to do it give it back to the Community pay it forward.

899
01:44:40.230 --> 01:44:41.790
Pat Raphael: I work for free so.

900
01:44:41.940 --> 01:44:42.720
i'll do anything.

901
01:44:44.790 --> 01:44:45.330
Pat Raphael: um.

902
01:44:48.150 --> 01:45:02.580
Pat Raphael: I think I think it'll be a good thing to do to organize a community to get people from different locations to have a inside view of what's really going on and how we could actually really help them because there's different locations dealing with different problems.

903
01:45:03.060 --> 01:45:03.390
and

904
01:45:05.070 --> 01:45:06.510
Brian Ulf: Therefore guys like you.

905
01:45:06.900 --> 01:45:14.850
Brian Ulf: Do it let's get the let's get the guy TIM from last week or last month let's Pat, you know, put the group together and let's have a meeting.

906
01:45:17.130 --> 01:45:19.350
Pat Raphael: And and i'm.

907
01:45:21.780 --> 01:45:23.250
Pat Raphael: zoom or like you're busy.

908
01:45:23.550 --> 01:45:26.940
Brian Ulf: we'll just we'll come out and sit on the beach, we can just do this in around circle.

909
01:45:27.660 --> 01:45:43.860
Brian Ulf: All right, let's make let's do a Community benefits agreement, what do you want, what do you have, what can we do this is what we want, this is what we have this is what we'd like to see unless it as adults and come up with something that works before i'm an agreement with each other.

910
01:45:44.580 --> 01:45:46.290
Pat Raphael: yeah well see the thing is that.

911
01:45:48.360 --> 01:45:51.960
Pat Raphael: We do indeed have way more than 20 people that are like minded.

912
01:45:52.680 --> 01:45:53.310
Pat Raphael: If not.

913
01:45:53.790 --> 01:46:01.470
Brian Ulf: Well then, you'll represent them and you'll get information from them and you just hand pick your group, whether it's 10 people or 20 people.

914
01:46:02.070 --> 01:46:03.840
Brian Ulf: 10 is probably easier to manage.

915
01:46:04.260 --> 01:46:15.660
Brian Ulf: You know, you know the group out there, you know who's out there was you know the people that have weight and carry power on the street, you know, Dan does this stand us every day with the gang.

916
01:46:16.380 --> 01:46:17.310
Pat Raphael: I think we could do that.

917
01:46:17.460 --> 01:46:18.210
Ansar  Muhammad: were brought up.

918
01:46:18.510 --> 01:46:19.920
vicki halliday: In stand there.

919
01:46:21.060 --> 01:46:25.110
Pat Raphael: For an external force to help was we can help ourselves internally and.

920
01:46:26.550 --> 01:46:30.630
Pat Raphael: by finding the people that are on the same vibe in the.

921
01:46:31.980 --> 01:46:40.410
Brian Ulf: mean if you if you came to us and said I have 50 people right here that will go into a pallet shelter a tiny home all right.

922
01:46:41.490 --> 01:46:50.370
Brian Ulf: Now, and then we show up to bond is obviously hair here's 50 that will go into pilot shelters and we'll go anywhere that they're being built in the city of Los Angeles.

923
01:46:53.790 --> 01:46:54.750
Pat Raphael: We could be project like.

924
01:46:55.260 --> 01:46:57.720
Brian Ulf: This all day long, I mean.

925
01:47:00.180 --> 01:47:01.920
Brian Ulf: This isn't unsolvable.

926
01:47:02.820 --> 01:47:09.780
Brian Ulf: nope, but you have to work again we, we have to work with you and we want to work with you.

927
01:47:11.010 --> 01:47:14.430
Pat Raphael: This is our friends, he does a lot with the ladies.

928
01:47:17.070 --> 01:47:18.150
Pat Raphael: You helps a lot in related.

929
01:47:19.230 --> 01:47:21.630
Brian Ulf: yeah I mean you don't have a drug.

930
01:47:21.630 --> 01:47:25.410
Brian Ulf: problem, maybe you know so well does, how do we get that person into detox.

931
01:47:25.440 --> 01:47:31.770
Brian Ulf: How can I help you get that guy into detox that guy that girl, how can we do this, you know.

932
01:47:33.450 --> 01:47:44.940
Brian Ulf: We have to work together, we can't we can't have house versus on house this yelling and allow the people that make decisions sitting up there have nothing to do it if we have to fix it ourselves let's join together and do it.

933
01:47:45.720 --> 01:47:45.960
yeah.

934
01:47:47.790 --> 01:47:48.090
Pat Raphael: You can't.

935
01:47:51.480 --> 01:47:53.280
frank murphy: Stand you got anything to add in there.

936
01:47:53.430 --> 01:47:55.050
Ansar  Muhammad: i've been listening in this very.

937
01:47:56.970 --> 01:47:59.370
Ansar  Muhammad: very informative so I definitely want to thank Pat.

938
01:48:00.600 --> 01:48:06.540
Ansar  Muhammad: In the gentleman who came on to speak, because these are the voices that need to be heard.

939
01:48:07.050 --> 01:48:11.820
Ansar  Muhammad: Exactly and if we're not humbled enough to listen.

940
01:48:13.020 --> 01:48:26.580
Ansar  Muhammad: To real time issues, then Shame on us, so I wanted to just lend an ear tonight and listen, because when we began to listen, you can begin to.

941
01:48:27.210 --> 01:48:43.410
Ansar  Muhammad: see that we're listening to people like us, you know, some may be bigger so maybe smaller so maybe taller so maybe shorter but we're dealing with human beings man, so I appreciate it, and what the gentleman said on the front end of this was really.

942
01:48:44.430 --> 01:48:51.450
Ansar  Muhammad: Something that we all should pay attention to what the service providers, not empowering local folks.

943
01:48:52.590 --> 01:49:00.870
Ansar  Muhammad: You know that should be a policy if we can get down the road that it should be a percentage of local hiring it should be a policy.

944
01:49:01.650 --> 01:49:10.470
Ansar  Muhammad: That any agency that's providing homeless services in Venice, to have a local hiring policy that they must hire from within.

945
01:49:11.460 --> 01:49:21.480
Ansar  Muhammad: That in itself will solve not half the problem, but a great percentage of the problem, because now you have people, who is from the Community.

946
01:49:21.990 --> 01:49:38.250
Ansar  Muhammad: who lived in this type of environment is now employee to do outreach effectively and so when Brian mentioned the gang stuff I don't have nobody on my team that's doing hardcore gang and avichal work in Venice this outside of Venice.

947
01:49:38.520 --> 01:49:47.910
Ansar  Muhammad: exactly these people that's providing services to gang Members and their families from Venice it's a it's an oxymoron.

948
01:49:48.660 --> 01:50:03.210
Ansar  Muhammad: position to go out and hire people to come into a situation and provide services to people like that's only slide pat and the guy these Dudes can come in and run a damn Program.

949
01:50:04.440 --> 01:50:13.230
Ansar  Muhammad: So thank you guys for coming on man, I just wanted to listen tonight, because if we don't learn to listen effectively actively.

950
01:50:13.710 --> 01:50:21.690
Ansar  Muhammad: Then we're gonna keep having this conversation man, so thank you Pat, I would like to do exactly what Brian said let's have that meeting.

951
01:50:22.590 --> 01:50:39.810
Ansar  Muhammad: Not only once, but let's have it until we come up with resolution and solutions to solve the problem, and once we get this voice heard outside of the homeless committee because of the political landscape, we might be able to get the ears of those who spend the tape biden's position.

952
01:50:40.950 --> 01:50:50.970
Ansar  Muhammad: We might better get the ear, but we can't get the ear if we fussing and fighting you got to get rid of these people they a nuisance get rid of them their news I mean come on yeah.

953
01:50:51.660 --> 01:51:06.330
Ansar  Muhammad: I mean come on for real y'all just heard from 200 visits a night very intelligent responses, so thank you guys man for coming on and whatever I can do, Pat is done.

954
01:51:07.410 --> 01:51:07.860
Ansar  Muhammad: Thank you.

955
01:51:09.390 --> 01:51:11.700
frank murphy: Good good well guys.

956
01:51:12.210 --> 01:51:17.760
Brian Ulf: pat let's have a let's have a meeting on June 15 That gives you two weeks to put.

957
01:51:19.050 --> 01:51:24.180
Brian Ulf: You tell us how many you want, if it's five people if it's 10 people have is 15 of its 20.

958
01:51:25.230 --> 01:51:38.100
Brian Ulf: All right, and then we're going to sit down and find out what kind of community benefit agreements can we make to make both sides of the street start to come together and it's not going to happen, the first meeting or maybe the fifth.

959
01:51:39.240 --> 01:51:41.310
Brian Ulf: When you trust us and we trust you it's.

960
01:51:41.670 --> 01:52:00.120
frank murphy: We it sounds like you were in an organizing pattern here, why don't we take that offline you guys can get you pat and Brian can get in touch with each other and diane and and also some of the other folks that we've had in because we've had real good.

961
01:52:01.230 --> 01:52:05.220
frank murphy: homeless people in the meetings that have had a lot of really.

962
01:52:06.840 --> 01:52:11.730
frank murphy: Good stuff to say and also stand so let's take that off.

963
01:52:12.480 --> 01:52:13.920
frank murphy: me organize them.

964
01:52:16.050 --> 01:52:20.460
Ansar  Muhammad: We can deal with some of the safety stuff I heard that on the front end about safety.

965
01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:30.240
Ansar  Muhammad: yeah yeah our approach is dealing with indigenous so my people show up like I got guys out there, right now, when they show up and nobody from the bark at them.

966
01:52:30.900 --> 01:52:39.990
Ansar  Muhammad: Because they found that they from Venice, I mean come on man and nobody from the bar because they from the neighborhood but it's easy to bark on somebody that don't know the landscape, or the terrain.

967
01:52:41.010 --> 01:52:43.680
Ansar  Muhammad: And there'll be basically saying get us out of here, you went from here.

968
01:52:44.220 --> 01:52:50.640
Ansar  Muhammad: mm hmm so let's let's deal with that so when it comes to the safety stuff I think we can have that conversation when we get down the road.

969
01:52:51.180 --> 01:53:00.090
Ansar  Muhammad: we're bringing bringing some of our best practices and if you notice we haven't had no yellow tape and a while with gang violence is the reason for that.

970
01:53:01.230 --> 01:53:03.630
Ansar  Muhammad: You know, immediate and stuff damn near every day man.

971
01:53:04.710 --> 01:53:17.340
Ansar  Muhammad: This is going to show the beat 13th to culver city threats say the Santa Monica reseda sad tale threat say we mediate and every day to make sure people that's in Venice now can walk the dogs down the street, without being shot at.

972
01:53:18.990 --> 01:53:25.590
Ansar  Muhammad: So, at the end of the day, we're brain that strategy to the table and let's see how far we can get down the road, thank you.

973
01:53:28.590 --> 01:53:29.610
Pat Raphael: have to reboot our.

974
01:53:30.750 --> 01:53:33.210
Pat Raphael: we've got a spot where you can try to meet it.

975
01:53:34.290 --> 01:53:36.390
Brian Ulf: yeah why don't you and I will talk offline.

976
01:53:36.480 --> 01:53:38.670
frank murphy: yeah that's worked out on offline.

977
01:53:38.730 --> 01:53:39.030
That.

978
01:53:40.260 --> 01:53:41.070
frank murphy: yeah okay.

979
01:53:42.510 --> 01:53:43.080
frank murphy: folks.

980
01:53:44.880 --> 01:53:49.890
frank murphy: Thank you very much and appreciate everybody being out here.

981
01:53:51.030 --> 01:53:54.360
frank murphy: And that's that's will adjourn for tonight.

982
01:53:56.370 --> 01:53:57.360
frank murphy: Thank you very much.

983
01:53:59.070 --> 01:53:59.820
Pat Raphael: Thanks guy.

984
01:54:00.300 --> 01:54:00.780
Brian Ulf: Thanks pat.

985
01:54:01.920 --> 01:54:03.240
Elizabeth Wright: Thank you, thank you.

986
01:54:03.570 --> 01:54:04.440
frank murphy: Thank you Jackie.