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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: unmute join us panelists Okay, it just now it's.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: well.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: it's very odd it's now showing just my name on the screen, you know what i'm going to do is i'm going to leave the meeting.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And i'll try to come back in okay.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, thanks, Jim.

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Sarah Wauters: um.

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Sarah Wauters: And it looks like it might actually be working now.

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Sarah Wauters: So you know, interestingly, I think I will not i'm.

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Sarah Wauters: i'm loath to to fiddle with it and i'm load to fiddle with it, too, but you know i'm going to do i'm recording so everything that is said is humble I gotta be recorded on.

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Sarah Wauters: It says it's recording, on the other links so i'm just going to keep that other computer going if it works it works if it doesn't it doesn't, but you can see if other people try to join and say you could have two meetings at the same time, yes, when I look this way i'm looking.

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Sarah Wauters: it's a virtual world, ladies and gentlemen.

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Sarah Wauters: So there might be parallel universes do we know that my goal is coming yeah Michael said he would be coming, but you know he does he is very busy so he may we have a quorum now with you, myself and Isabel.

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Sarah Wauters: was on another person trying to come in as well.

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james murez: No.

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Sarah Wauters: No, I was somebody's computer Okay, and you texted Michael Is that what you just said, OK OK, so I don't need to text him as well i'm okay i'm presuming that will join us when you can.

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Sarah Wauters: Just a quick question here for the Minutes are we are we calling the the.

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Sarah Wauters: The unseen zoom wine we're calling it the official zoom winery that were there were.

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Sarah Wauters: Well, we can call it the official.

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Sarah Wauters: zoom meeting.

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Sarah Wauters: hi Jim Can you see me.

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Sarah Wauters: I think he's just.

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james murez: got me on.

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Sarah Wauters: hi Jim Can you see me.

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Sarah Wauters: I think he is really bad.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh.

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Sarah Wauters: There are participants over.

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Sarah Wauters: Here okay.

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Sarah Wauters: So you know what i'm going to do something different here i'm going to in the chat.

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Sarah Wauters: I am going to.

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Sarah Wauters: Go where's the chat there is no chat neighborhood Council it's awful it's awful okay so hold on a second guys i'm going to mute you.

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Sarah Wauters: Can everyone hear me Jim can you hear me.

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Sarah Wauters: hmm.

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Sarah Wauters: It looks like a.

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Sarah Wauters: Mark Ryan.

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Sarah Wauters: And joined for two seconds.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh, this is this is too bad, but yeah I think it's you know I did email everybody, the new zoom link so everybody that's on that email list did receive it.

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Sarah Wauters: So hopefully they'll.

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Sarah Wauters: Look at their emails that's all we can hope for Okay, so we have Evan and we have Andrea Hello Andrea.

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Sarah Wauters: Thanks for coming, and I think that now that we have a quorum is about myself and Noel and Barry jerry's here too I think we can get started so i'm going to just go ahead and.

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Sarah Wauters: call to order.

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Sarah Wauters: And today Noel is very generously going to take notes so.

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Sarah Wauters: it's always difficult to go as quickly as one needs to but I guess we'll call is that Sarah Isabel Noel and Barry are here and so his gym in part um.

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Sarah Wauters: We don't have mark, although he may have tried so.

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Sarah Wauters: Thank you for everyone coming, I just wanted to ask if anybody had any amendments to the February and April Minutes that were posted.

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Sarah Wauters: At the.

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Sarah Wauters: On the dnc website any amendments.

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Sarah Wauters: Know amendments, it looks like and any minutes medical agendas are well let's go ahead and i'll make a motion.

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Sarah Wauters: To approve the February April minutes anyone like to take it Thank you Isabel.

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Sarah Wauters: And then we need to have public comment on any subject matter tending to the Venice arbor committee, but not on the agenda, so does anybody have anything they'd like to raise right now that we can jot down for next maybe the next meeting and meeting after that.

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Sarah Wauters: I guess I have something i'd like to raise that Charles is gonna his head's gonna pop up.

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Sarah Wauters: Human steam I got an email from urban forestry couple days ago that the tree Aaron chief the first CD 11 has been reviewed and they're providing us with 13 natives out of 59 and they will all be desert willows.

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Sarah Wauters: And he did the same thing in CT five desert willow is, but you did get a few coastline oh I don't remember the exact numbers but.

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Sarah Wauters: I went to the del rey and see yesterday to see if I could muster up some support for having them push back again and I didn't really.

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Sarah Wauters: get a sense that they felt like they have the strength to do it and see fact is that meeting this month, so i'm not sure if i'm.

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Sarah Wauters: not sure what we're gonna do about it so, can you can you explain kind of what that means so they're saying that.

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Sarah Wauters: They only are going to plant those doesn't willows in this next coming year, what what is the actual known about Barry and I and and Michael.

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Sarah Wauters: went and visited all 59 sites of the guarantee trophy.

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Sarah Wauters: Those were places blood money basically that places were big mature trees are being removed in Sydney 11 and if you can't replace the tree, you have to plant, the tree somewhere else you put money into the funds.

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Sarah Wauters: And, and this is the funds for the year so CD 11 got the most number of tree guarantee fees of all of the Council, districts because we're the one.

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Sarah Wauters: That has the most development so of those 59 trees, I went with Barry and Michael and we selected a whole bunch of changes and then after that Charles also went back.

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Sarah Wauters: And he also made some recommendations and see fact basically pushed.

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Sarah Wauters: Urban forestry in said, and we had on him right emotion and he had del rey we had problems right motion, saying that this is not acceptable, we don't want Andrew around this.

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Sarah Wauters: And desert and Australia and willows everywhere we want native trees, so they heard us they took the spreadsheets away and what two months later, they come back and that's that is there it's about who is.

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Sarah Wauters: Urban cores.

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Sarah Wauters: And and Rachel marriage.

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Sarah Wauters: yeah I mean Rachel years she.

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Sarah Wauters: she's in the middle so she's doing the best she can, and she and they actually really likes the trees, they had selected they like Chinese pistachio and like she likes New Zealand Christmas tree, and I know Barry does too.

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Sarah Wauters: So she you know she did the best she could helping us and I don't know if the problem is source material.

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Sarah Wauters: I think probably see tax gonna try to convince them to just wait and plant next year the plant those 14 trees.

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Sarah Wauters: it's a bad time of year anyway.

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Sarah Wauters: So, here comes the I am So are we are we feeling that this recommendation was ignore yeah.

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Sarah Wauters: 14 trees.

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Sarah Wauters: So they're going to plant 59 trees and out of the.

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Sarah Wauters: 14 will be natives and all the rest will be non natives and they are shows trees, based on i'm sorry say that again, let me get back so there's 50 or.

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Sarah Wauters: They gave us 14 truth right now there's there's 59 total trees as i'm understanding it.

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Sarah Wauters: that are going to be planted pursuant to this program where developers have to plant trees, because they remove it, they have to pay money into a fun because they can't plant trees on their site.

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Sarah Wauters: And is the is the are the trees that they're planting on their site pursuant to replacing natives are they pursuing to just the building code.

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Sarah Wauters: Now these are trees in there that property owner had to remove so that he could make a bigger driveway or.

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Sarah Wauters: Basically, a bigger driveway I like and.

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Sarah Wauters: I don't know exactly why i'm having some struggle with this, but am I understanding that there are 59 sites or they've agreed to 59 truth for.

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Sarah Wauters: The same thing I was saying okay.

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Sarah Wauters: Robert is.

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Sarah Wauters: 59 trees 14 are natives.

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Sarah Wauters: they're.

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Sarah Wauters: Not even made up telling.

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Sarah Wauters: So.

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Sarah Wauters: it's their new favorite native it's the one we plan to do on apple apple 10 and it's the pine tree, but not the greatest and it's it's an auto burrito true.

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Sarah Wauters: It doesn't get very big.

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Sarah Wauters: yeah yeah I could name is not what other side of town, yes, we have recommended Catalina cherry.

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Sarah Wauters: iron when you know we hadn't we between the four of us here, including Charles Michael burying myself, we had an amazing palette.

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Sarah Wauters: A wide selection, you know, certainly, they could have gotten some of them, but they just got desert well.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, well, thank you, I didn't even know you guys were doing that you may have told me, but I had forgotten, so thank you for putting the work in I do.

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Sarah Wauters: I totally appreciate i'm sorry the ignored you um so actually what we're going to do today becomes even more important, but i'd like to return to the agenda, thank you for that report Isabel.

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Sarah Wauters: Do you have actually do you have more that you would like to say, with regard to see back as well.

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Sarah Wauters: Of.

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Sarah Wauters: We met with the zoning no I don't really think I have anything say we have plenty on our agenda, we have a lot to do if there's something specific you want to hear about, I can tell you that that okay.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, so so as a very brief report, I went to a watershed.

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Sarah Wauters: Management symposium and Isabella attended it as well for schools, and it was very interesting because I.

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Sarah Wauters: started to kind of learn who were all the people on the West side actually throughout the city, who are working on greening schools, so that was useful, and the reason why a wind is because we had on our agenda, the.

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Sarah Wauters: The wish to green the Venice skill Center right in oakland and so more about that later I haven't really.

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Sarah Wauters: been able to hook up with the La USD folks yet, but I think that really is the key that we're going to have to climb up the LSD ladder, but I wanted to speak with you about that Noel before I made any calls, I know that you're kind of.

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Sarah Wauters: really taking the lead on the La spill on Venice skill Center.

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Sarah Wauters: So Noel would you like to give us her important about what bbg has been doing for.

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Sarah Wauters: A lot actually we've we've we've been busy.

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Sarah Wauters: is about and and I and others went to mar vista gardens and help them with their trees last week and we think.

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Sarah Wauters: They certainly have an interesting group there and and I, I think, despite.

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Sarah Wauters: A lot of neglect.

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Sarah Wauters: The the trees over there, doing pretty well on we were we were plants and trees and we've got an interesting group over there and as about done wonders in painting their interest and then we'll continue to share countries and we hope to.

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Sarah Wauters: be able to help them one on one we have the time and man talk our last week.

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Sarah Wauters: Saturday, where we worked at flower, and I think the trees on that street.

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Sarah Wauters: Looking pretty good.

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Sarah Wauters: We know what they are.

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Sarah Wauters: All there, there are.

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Sarah Wauters: There are a variety of trees were planted the different times is about what would you say, the majority of the trees are that we've planted their their island island.

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Sarah Wauters: But then the street also has on a plan to jacaranda.

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Sarah Wauters: To get some island and.

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Sarah Wauters: Charles we we regard.

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Sarah Wauters: The folks on the island notes as needed, so we run.

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Sarah Wauters: It wrong about one of them, the core code is not native and doesn't do anything support biodiversity, the island know is part of the California for the province and.

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Sarah Wauters: As very common heritage it's anything that's on the Channel Islands it's compatible with an entire chemistry, of course, the province.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay interesting to know thanks and they're doing well they're doing, I mean, I hope, at some point, Charles you can have a chance to go over and look at them, but they're growing beautifully.

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Sarah Wauters: And we've got I know we've got several several projects around here and and as long as your coastal does extremely well, and they have benefit of being a smaller oak so it's it's a wonderful beautiful tree.

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Sarah Wauters: is very, very rugged yeah seems like they're doing really well, even though it's been a very dry year so and we didn't water in mulch.

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Sarah Wauters: So they are getting some care and the face of the drought, but i'm back from summer water and you'll be in good shape yeah I think I think that was probably the last watering we're going to do on those I something like that.

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Sarah Wauters: Maybe maybe not in this in this forum, because we're getting different sets of instructions about what to do with the very young folks want to water or not to water, the summit Sony.

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Sarah Wauters: put them in this, you.

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Sarah Wauters: know.

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Sarah Wauters: This year yeah I would say.

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Sarah Wauters: They were fairly large when they were installed, how are we talking, are we talking one gallon trees, which can kind of do their own thing, are we talking to 24 inch box, oh no nothing's big like that Palo Alto the trees right I hate.

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Sarah Wauters: When they get taller than you don't give them any summer water until then give them one good soaking a month Okay, that is what I told the Johnny I told him to stop watering.

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Sarah Wauters: Either the summer, but maybe trying to water once a month.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, we should probably clarify that with him i'm we don't even think he does water.

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Sarah Wauters: What he feels like.

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Sarah Wauters: i'm which were which were still version of up yeah let me, let me just finish up here really quickly this weekend we're going to be at sunset sex so we're going to be doing multi entry maintenance on those trees.

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Sarah Wauters: We have planned in three play trees at the dog Park, I have not checked up on those and should check up on how they're doing they look like they're.

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Sarah Wauters: Doing finally did that, with the help of Scott and more creation and parks and he was kind enough to give us our orange fences around them so they they seem to be relatively safe.

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Sarah Wauters: Girls are we planted there.

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Sarah Wauters: As well why don't you do that, please.

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Sarah Wauters: Mandatory pine in Ireland mahogany see wonderful choices yeah.

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Sarah Wauters: sandy hill.

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Sarah Wauters: I can check on them, they look great that's good sir, one of those the dogs are digging underneath the containment, so I asked a dog Walker to tell Scott to fill in the hole I don't know if he did or not.

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Sarah Wauters: i'm on the outside, so I go over some popcorn.

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Sarah Wauters: He got he got what he deserved.

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Sarah Wauters: Just really quickly mentioned the unfortunate pruning over a table or one I don't have the parking lot number in front of me right now, we do have the parking lot number, but we had done maintenance over there, a couple of weeks ago and the.

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Sarah Wauters: Higher trade rumors went through there and drink what we trimmed back in the lollipops and the other part, almost down, which was this man is about.

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Sarah Wauters: them it's already down to the ground now remember to have on it, what do they do full flower they took the.

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Sarah Wauters: The dark the dark skies, you know this and they turned it into a little round ball all the little blue blossoms are gone so I stopped them I stopped them, I was there last Wednesday and I called Ortega or alonzo Ortega.

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Sarah Wauters: Sorry, I know you were telling the story no well anyway i'm the sizes of I don't know what to do, okay so so i'd like to make a suggestion on that we need photographs, so I can either go back by there.

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Sarah Wauters: But I know that we have at least some photographs from before because we went by there and I I don't know if I photographed a lot, or if you did, but we should.

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Sarah Wauters: Take this offline and we'll put together a before and after and then we need to go to whoever they're contracted with they would be contracted with them, we want to stop you because we we sort of gotten we've gotten a little beyond this.

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Sarah Wauters: We have a contact in La do to who we believe is a ND responsible for hiring this group on what we think we think.

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Sarah Wauters: That they're well meaning these guys are just doing what they think their job is they need to be retrained so what we're talking about here is is.

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Sarah Wauters: Retraining these guys and then it's really gotta be done sooner rather than later, because they're doing a tremendous okay So where are we in the contract what how who's who's handling that is about Wer were we know that we believe that it was David at La do G is the we have.

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Sarah Wauters: an email correspondence with him okay um I can't remember his last name.

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Sarah Wauters: i'll be happy to give it to you we've talked to him in the in the in the past.

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Sarah Wauters: Right now, he doesn't seem to be wildly helpful, but I think that.

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Sarah Wauters: you're right about the finance and if we can I would love to be able to do a zoom meeting or face to face meeting with them, or something, because we we just don't feel that this is being taken very seriously, no, no, no it's not.

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Sarah Wauters: it's not and but I, but I don't understand why it's not and.

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Sarah Wauters: there's also if they're if they're thinking about preserving jobs which I sometimes feel that they are that they're just interested in sending the guys over there and having something there's plenty to do over there, that would not image trees and plants so.

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Sarah Wauters: Nothing to do this funny leading to be done.

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Sarah Wauters: Have.

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Sarah Wauters: planted.

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Sarah Wauters: A flower there's there's lots for all.

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Sarah Wauters: You do all so so let me just make a suggestion, I think that, rather than I think we all kind of know what the content is that we need to communicate to them.

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Sarah Wauters: We need to get the photographs together and we need to ask for a meeting.

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Sarah Wauters: To with not first we're going to have to have a meeting with the official who's responsible for the contract and then we're going to ask him to put us in touch with the head of that company.

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Sarah Wauters: and show them the destruction that is occurring and ask them to allow us to be there, the next time they trim we're going to have to be unsafe.

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Sarah Wauters: And that that's really the only answer because they're not going to I just don't think we can rely on the conveyance of information within that body.

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Sarah Wauters: So why don't you and I talk offline and we can.

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Sarah Wauters: You know, maybe i'll maybe i'll start the email chain, or you can whatever you like, but we just need to track it because we know this is going to happen again if we don't.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay that's good for me great Thank you okay so on to the next very exciting, we have a committee change i've nominee i'd like to nominate Michael macguffin to join the committee he's here hi Michael.

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Sarah Wauters: And we just I need i'm going to make a motion and a second.

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Sarah Wauters: It Thank you, and then we should actually take a boat to have Michael join and that would mean a vote from the four of us and you.

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Sarah Wauters: Would that then make it so we have six formal members of the committee.

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Sarah Wauters: Yes, and does that make a quorum four or three.

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Sarah Wauters: Actually, it would make a quorum three under, but I believe a promise me now I need Sarah forums for and would be for yes that's right that's.

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Sarah Wauters: me 50% plus one right, I do, I do think that we're also going to have to ask mark to step down because he hasn't attended the meeting and several months, and he tried to get him on the other, zoom I know which is.

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Sarah Wauters: still running but there's nobody there but me and I texted him didn't go out either he's got one of those android phones it doesn't always like my phone.

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Sarah Wauters: I texted in your life but see if he shows up, it shows that you can't ask him to step down, but again i'm willing to participate i'm willing to be a member, I just had that little admin concern did we just make it so instead of needing three we need for.

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Sarah Wauters: And if so, are really know the four of us are going to.

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Sarah Wauters: Sarah when she asked me to do this, I went ahead and put it in my calendar for the next six months, so.

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Sarah Wauters: When a guy otherwise my staff just crushing crashes into my calendar and makes meetings for me right, of course.

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Sarah Wauters: I was, I had a staff to do that for me.

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Sarah Wauters: um Okay, well, I think that's a really good point, but I think I think we should go ahead and vote to add you, in any event.

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Sarah Wauters: And I will reach out to mark and asked him if he wants to participate, let him know you know what our concern is we just.

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Sarah Wauters: We actually did increase the committee I think it's always good to have more rather than less less and that we need him to participate in order to make the forum on.

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Sarah Wauters: You know, several occasions and Noel so i'll, let me say that you actually don't have to ask mark to step down as more to you, it is about can just say mark is not attended the last three meetings and you don't need to say that you can just say that you are.

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Sarah Wauters: Assuming that mark like no longer wants to be a member and.

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Sarah Wauters: And that's about right.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay it's good to know I think probably as a matter of politeness and courtesy i'm probably gonna stick around because I think that's just that I do um okay so let's take a vote i'm all in favor say Aye and raise your hand side way fantastic What about.

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Sarah Wauters: Michael welcome.

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Sarah Wauters: Thank you very much, now that you really needed a welcome okay so there's.

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Sarah Wauters: yeah yeah it's just a mapping Sarah can I mention about about my position oh sure yeah so I just also wanted to know I don't you don't need to vote on it.

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Sarah Wauters: But i'm stepping down as Co chair, so that we have a single share, I think the Co chair thing, and it was it was a little complicated, so I will still be if y'all have me, I will still be.

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Sarah Wauters: On this board, but I will I will no longer be a chair, of course, we'll have you you're you're doing such heavy lifting most of the time, so thank you.

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Sarah Wauters: For all of the heavy lifting and being the Co chair i'm so that you guys know i'm I wanted Isabel to remain, but I can understand it's a little confusing as to who's going to do what.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, so thanks is about, for all your work in the past, and all the work that you're going to do in the future.

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Sarah Wauters: i'm old business, I wanted to buzz through a few things to just give everybody, the information of what's going on with various projects, the first and foremost in my.

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Sarah Wauters: heart is the link and fast forward green architecture program we passed emotion last time, unfortunately, it wasn't valid because we didn't have a quorum at the time that it was fast i'm sorry go ahead.

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Sarah Wauters: i'm sorry to interrupt you, I just wonder if you want to get the public comment about the way first Oh yes, thank you, oh I did actually asked for anybody, I asked for public comment.

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Sarah Wauters: For non agenda items before.

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Sarah Wauters: Has anything to say, or would you like to do controls now we're it's on the agenda coming up okay so i'm Lincoln fast forward past in the Venice neighborhood Council, so I wanted to congratulate Evan Evan status hand up go ahead Evan.

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Sarah Wauters: hey yeah so gone through that hurdle, which is great, and then the next question I just joined asked you honestly.

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Sarah Wauters: So I really meld this a few times i'll follow up again today, I don't know if you saw that a CC from a few years ago I did.

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Sarah Wauters: But they're they're pretty silent over there.

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Sarah Wauters: out the Council office yes yeah yeah we're not really in the mood.

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Sarah Wauters: there's a lot of movement going on well people leaving yeah I understand that um it's you guys have any it's probably going to be after the election I would imagine you have to wait.

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Sarah Wauters: and hopefully there's not a lot of movement forward on the planning that puts us precludes us but.

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Sarah Wauters: You know, we can't nobody can guess who's going to be elected right, I mean we all have our favorites and this horse race and.

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Sarah Wauters: We don't know and Eric has a lot of conflict right now with with me, so I think that Venice is not high on their list of people, they want to work with right now.

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Sarah Wauters: yeah yeah maybe it's been this time making it a much more robust proposal and working with.

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Sarah Wauters: Other people, besides the Council Office, have you been meaning to counsel them, the people who are running.

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Sarah Wauters: yeah yeah you have both you.

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Sarah Wauters: Go ahead, Sir, I had um I had actually suggested to Evan.

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Sarah Wauters: That it might be interesting to get a grant to pay a landscape architect to do some renderings that would kind of bring that area to life.

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Sarah Wauters: Because honestly the board and i'll just say this very quickly the board really didn't understand what was going on, when they looked at whatever is presented.

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Sarah Wauters: And drab vocal letting I think this is his last name said, I think it will stop up traffic, because people will not be able to turn left into the sense of the side streets.

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Sarah Wauters: And then Evan explained or maybe it was Robert Robert Robert explain that they had chosen places where no left hand turns would be restricted and yet Andrea is still voted against it, are actually trying to.

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Sarah Wauters: amend the motion so that it would have precluded any of the median plantings so you know, I think that.

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Sarah Wauters: Actually, our messaging and how clear the messaging messaging is with regard to what it would do for Lincoln boulevard might be the next thing that we have to work on.

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Sarah Wauters: What do you think Isabel or no well anybody with regard to how we can we can express to the city and to the Department of Transportation how important this is.

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Sarah Wauters: Nothing Okay, well, it isn't it isn't opinion.

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Sarah Wauters: What can we do, and I feel like Evans done such a great job, who are reading give him any you know he's he's done amazing work getting it this far, I just feel i'm qualified to.

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Sarah Wauters: to advise him because I don't know about the mobility plan I don't know to to.

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Sarah Wauters: I mean, maybe I could try to help him get into the Council office, since I have a decent relationship with the Council member.

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Sarah Wauters: We think is that what we think the most efficacious.

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Sarah Wauters: I don't know I mean we would all be guessing at this point, I might my My guess and now i'll i'll talk with you about this offline Evan if you want.

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Sarah Wauters: But I do think that it's going to be some heavy kind of researching and phone calling and figuring out if it really is in charge, and I yeah I don't think it's I don't think it's the Council district office I think it's do.

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Sarah Wauters: yeah they do have is facilitating this Lincoln plan you happen to be big so honestly I mean I was just looking to Eric just kind of you know, for some guidance.

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Sarah Wauters: Maybe he could point me in the right direction because she too is all about, you know permeability and you know multimodal transportation.

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Sarah Wauters: I feel like we're all in alignment it just might be like you know, things are wrapping up you know people's to look for new jobs it's just not the time yeah I think that's fine.

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Sarah Wauters: i'll keep pushing and then we can sync up meeting next week and we can come up with some next steps, or something okay great thanks.

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Sarah Wauters: So thank you oh you're welcome, and thank you so much for doing that work.

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Sarah Wauters: um, the next item that I wanted to talk about, but I think it's it's just really i'm reporting I did get in touch with kiss the ground, which is the organization that did the garden.

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Sarah Wauters: In front of brick beyond growth, but I was really I kind of came up dry with regard to WHO to contact over there.

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Sarah Wauters: And the reason why this has been suggested we talked about working on the medians and possibly getting the.

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Sarah Wauters: Getting some mulching and some understory plantings on those mediums in front of the ground and then.

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Sarah Wauters: Noel I spoke with you and you said and i'm not really sure that there's work to be done there so i'm a little confused about what the what the feelings are with regard to those mediums that are.

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Sarah Wauters: East of Abbot kinney and west of Lincoln so maybe we we just put that on hold and think about that in the future, I think we probably have enough on our plate at the moment.

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Sarah Wauters: So does anybody have a comment with regard to those mediums in front of the ground.

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Sarah Wauters: yeah I do go ahead, I was wondering if we could use kiss the ground sites to have our mulch stored do they have a pretty big space.

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Sarah Wauters: They yeah they have a an area and they could probably use the mulch themselves so maybe a nice way to start a partnership with them.

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Sarah Wauters: And I certainly know that chimeras would like us to plant more oaks in the medians there were there used to be oaks before hammer I have you.

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Sarah Wauters: heard minutes to get on on the day i'm sorry I can try and attempt to an email you and everything's been bouncing back I don't know why my text to you haven't gone through, but I just didn't ask you anyway well going.

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Sarah Wauters: To me, I don't know thanks for me.

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Sarah Wauters: yeah you sent me an email and I got that were also sent to uh huh anyway we're unfortunately it was it was the fault of jim's zoom yeah.

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Sarah Wauters: So, which are we right now what what item, where we were under old business and we're just discussing the.

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Sarah Wauters: The median that is East but all of the Venice boulevard medians that are east of Abbot kinney and west of Lincoln.

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Sarah Wauters: they're quite dry they do have beautiful sycamores in them, but they're kind of suffering and I had heard from Jim euro's that they have watering systems in there, that are not presently working so we were talking about.

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Sarah Wauters: Possibly doing some work to.

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Sarah Wauters: maintain those trees mulch underneath them, and possibly even plant some understory natives to try to further support the native environment so that's where we are and Isabel was about to tell us what her opinion is on this possible project.

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Sarah Wauters: And what the comment to Okay, thank you, I see what.

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Sarah Wauters: i'm doing oh I didn't know what was what was it that you had said oh I didn't sentence I didn't say that under stress and let's maybe plan a few replacement oaks there used to be a bunch of folks there, we have the original drawings, we could put replacing oaks and mulch but.

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Sarah Wauters: Certainly we're not going to be planting anytime until August so maybe that or September, October November, maybe we need to start making a list of where we're going to plant and get ready to start getting are.

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Sarah Wauters: Going gather aware right, and then there was the question of.

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Sarah Wauters: mulch and possibly using a space from kiss the ground to stage our mulch before we work on the median it is kind of a tricky job because we have to process all of our with our much so, and what What did you have to say Steve from him.

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Sarah Wauters: yeah The one thing about the media, there we propose side or the Venice the sport.

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Sarah Wauters: yeah it's different that's a different spot where Is that how many ladies to that it Kenny army east of Abbot kinney which we're talking about centennial Park, on top of it work where is the park relations.

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Sarah Wauters: are living now you know where the big encampments has developed okay so that's like West West mckinney.

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Sarah Wauters: gotcha so there's nothing planned for this study and it's just it's just what i'm almost compacted soil.

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Sarah Wauters: Nothing else it has sycamores planted in it and the civil wars are growing, and some of them are healthy well what i'd say is you guys are aware about eight years ago, or so I did the additional projects at the on the road, which is the surfrider.

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Sarah Wauters: So he was walking up to the entrance young girl on the left side that whole section is a health related.

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Sarah Wauters: of any theory is that right that's great California natives along you're doing just fine and that soil, which is interesting it's kind of extended sandy an interesting difference and other more place oils.

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Sarah Wauters: They don't even need irrigation and we really had to.

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Sarah Wauters: You know infill a couple plants that were stoned to death by people commit.

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Sarah Wauters: So so um you guys at surfrider did that garden that's great, what do you think people would be interested in participating in and doing some some more voluntary work to.

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Sarah Wauters: get there, the whole yeah yeah yeah yeahs a beautiful garden yeah I just actually taught at a certain part of eating couple nights ago.

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Sarah Wauters: Yes, the whole garden there for the entryway uh huh nice it's really nice and then you know I think you know kiss the ground cable years later, and they saw the dead grass surrounding.

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Sarah Wauters: And collectively it's really cool we just like you got the natives and then you have some vegetable gardens and unable to you know avoid say thanks for you volunteers and whatnot it's pretty cool i've worked a little bit.

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Sarah Wauters: On the but yeah I did on the surfrider codes and speak there's a couple nights at a meeting of Patagonia and there is, you know because of all the drought is trending at a clinician and.

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Sarah Wauters: You know the line just right now people participating that project, so I think, yes, we could get bolger's over there are across two additional work.

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Sarah Wauters: Right so so that do you see that medium right there, you can see where there's more trees in it.

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Sarah Wauters: They came in for you guys for the day and fixed it all working out so i'm wondering, you see my.

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Sarah Wauters: will know has her hand up and she's a plumber plumber in our group, but before, since you asked me, I was just going to say that I don't know if you heard what Steve said.

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Sarah Wauters: These trees are doing pretty well without water, the only reason we would water on this to me make this found grass or something else cleansing do better.

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Sarah Wauters: I mean we might want to water periodically when it's really hot in the summer girls.

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Sarah Wauters: No well, did you want to answer marks question about that.

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Sarah Wauters: I don't manage to be irrigation system but cheryl says we're more interested water and sometimes and other things die but.

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Sarah Wauters: That irrigation system isn't working for a long time, and I want to remind all of us that our mission statement is about truth, not about your clients, I mean, these are important, but our managers really about, please.

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Sarah Wauters: Your point mark I think you're right and you sycamores a lot more so for a lot, it is, it is really dry and really nasty any.

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Sarah Wauters: Other plant a few baby Oh, it would be nice, but what I thought it was going to tell you is that we have also we have prepared.

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Sarah Wauters: Some irrigation systems where we planted those seeds over by the farmers market, so we have done a lot of that as well, and I think we would welcome another plumber, we have a plumber we work with welcome another one tell us yeah apart from me directly with the roller.

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Sarah Wauters: Might it might be a matter of asking Jim to point me in the right direction, so that I can find it.

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Sarah Wauters: knew that it was a political for those trees yeah so and I I hate to see city resources wasted like that, if the city has spent money on putting in.

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Sarah Wauters: An irrigation system, and we should utilize it even if it's only to get some of our new trees established, and then we can turn off the water once they're established.

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Sarah Wauters: let's let's call him Michael he's got his hand up.

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Sarah Wauters: I think you're much as the new member of the committee or you weren't here so i'm now.

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Sarah Wauters: Can I be the troublemaker why don't we amend the.

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Sarah Wauters: mission statement of the Venice arbor committed support and encourage the planting and maintenance of trees and other native.

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Sarah Wauters: Because I want to plant material poppies shovel island tree poppies and y'all know me I love the shrubs I love this agent so well, can we if we can frame it as those other plans are supporting.

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Sarah Wauters: The mission of biodiversity that native trees support maybe we could you know go that way, but you are the troublemaker for sure we invite you, and you you're like the Senator that like.

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Sarah Wauters: I second Michael yeah.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay um let's let's have a little more debate on it Steve Williams.

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Sarah Wauters: um yeah, I just wanted to mention that the best solution for the situation's Elvis median strip for the do.

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Sarah Wauters: A proper three streets type project for you would have the runoff flowing into the median strip not away from the gutter so the ocean lightning.

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Sarah Wauters: Speed speaking from the ocean, from the perspective that would be the right thing to do so maybe I mean I don't know, maybe we could actually look at that possible for being like a demonstration, so the whole our whole area know read conquering streets to absorb run off and also signals.

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Sarah Wauters: Well that's some that's an interesting thought.

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Sarah Wauters: I also I also just wanted to add it and save it earlier, but you know, in the beyond Baroque garden project process that we worked on.

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Sarah Wauters: Part of the reason why those plants are thriving that we planted eight years ago about irritations that there are two fans felt self a group of young through.

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Sarah Wauters: Going into the garden yeah you know what you don't know that but yeah, there are three.

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Sarah Wauters: Right that's really important to now yeah so that is Noel um I was was michaels motion.

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Sarah Wauters: For me, can I ask you, before we make a motion, we have to.

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Sarah Wauters: That we're going to discuss this and I don't think that we've announced that we're going to discuss a.

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Sarah Wauters: mission challenge right it's up to our to our board and establish division, but I want to say that that, despite the fact that i'm i'm with all of you are planning natives.

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Sarah Wauters: I believe that our that our mission should focus pretty solar countries, the only times they weren't.

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Sarah Wauters: Fighting good article on the importance of trees, they said, ignoring you're on more everything else.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, why don't we do why don't we do this, I think that, since it's not on the agenda and it has come up as a subject matter, I think we should put it on the next agenda.

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Sarah Wauters: And then have a have a real debate about it, then, and some of the materials that you're talking about Noel that those would be really helpful.

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Sarah Wauters: If you wanted to send those to me, and then I can disseminate them to the group and everyone can do a little bit of reading.

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Sarah Wauters: And then we can talk about it, next time, since we have a really full agenda today and I i'd like to at least get down to the.

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Sarah Wauters: Meat of today's meeting because we're still just in the old business, yes, Michael what's your response yeah I I was just bringing up as a point of discussion I loved the discussion, I did not, if I say hey I gotta go pee that's not emotion.

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Sarah Wauters: So I just met i'd like to discuss somebody we were talking earlier about.

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Sarah Wauters: Somebody cut down on telehealth poppies guess what they're coming back right to get them out, so I do think, and I happy to talk to you know our mark you seem to have a pretty prompt prompt.

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Sarah Wauters: and St Charles support for this, but if if we plant, the right so shrubs.

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Sarah Wauters: they're going to really fill the space beautifully but I did not mean to make emotion, I want to have a discussion because I think we can expand.

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Sarah Wauters: The scope without some kind of massive increase in the effort if if we're attentive to selection of species sages and etc, but again i'd love to have the discussion it timely so that we're.

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Sarah Wauters: we've got good clarity and consensus prior to make an ocean that's what I always wanted yeah I think you you introduced in communities like this, and only introduced emotion drive the discussion right.

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Sarah Wauters: So one and to get it on the agenda here right Robert Robert says do it that way let's get on the agenda for next time, no well I hope you're taking notes on all of this because i'm not going to remember it tries really hard.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, so thank you um there's a third item i'm just going to give a report on it and then.

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Sarah Wauters: I would like us to really move on to our bio diversity mission for today's meeting that third item is that I.

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Sarah Wauters: I made an attempt to apply for thousand dollars of the Community, improved my grant we were too late, because the deadline has already passed.

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Sarah Wauters: Two months ago, apparently, so we never would have downtime but I did learn a lot about how to apply for the Community and through grants from the neighborhood Council.

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Sarah Wauters: And it looks like there's very little that's going to be left for next fiscal year, but my grant is all ready to go.

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Sarah Wauters: So the grant was for the business skills Center have to plant trees and to mulch and possibly plan understory on all four sides of the best skill Center I think.

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Sarah Wauters: I think you guys all know that it looks pretty ugly over there, and specifically on the West side, where there had been planter boxes all the wood was stolen and taken away and so now there's this kind of higgledy piggledy piles of soil and weeds and so that was the primary.

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Sarah Wauters: You know sort of.

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Sarah Wauters: kickoff we wanted to try to meet that up and make that area look Nice, especially since it's welcoming a lot of people from outside Venice.

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Sarah Wauters: or a lot of people go to that skill Center and to welcome that them in that way is really not so cool.

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Sarah Wauters: So anyway that's what we applied for and i'm going to put an application in for next fiscal year as soon as it's open and I just need signatures from it's going to be Michael Isabel Noel Barry and I were going to sign on a stakeholders and i'll get those documents around to you guys.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, so Moving on, is there any public comment on that.

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Sarah Wauters: It is not it in the chat the rebar was taken away I don't know who the rebar but it's gone you didn't do that mark, did you.

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Sarah Wauters: Have those little pieces of rebar that are so dangerous somebody's rules that so that's a good thing, maybe the school actually right.

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Sarah Wauters: And certainly also install the point oh yeah months ago, well, firstly, they just took the box to the lumber he took the lumber probably someone would still probably okay back and.

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Sarah Wauters: pointed the gardener's wrote it down.

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Sarah Wauters: yeah it was a big garden different still Center mm hmm.

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Sarah Wauters: They have a gardener home gardener so there's no excuse.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, now, while you had your hand up front, I don't know, I was Robin is about my world.

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Sarah Wauters: Out there.

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Sarah Wauters: Talking, but they were they were knowing everything down the only thing that they said they were not.

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Sarah Wauters: Was the.

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Sarah Wauters: Only thing that they said they were not rebar so I was wildly sparse rebar gone because somebody did right it's a safety issue OK so moving on to the bio diversity.

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Sarah Wauters: conversation.

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Sarah Wauters: We have.

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Sarah Wauters: A real wonderful attendee Charles is with us, and he has.

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Sarah Wauters: He has been he has started a push to to get emotion passed through all of the neighborhood Councils, with regard to planting natives only.

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Sarah Wauters: and see fact also has just passed emotion, to support planting natives only so we have two options of motions here that we can choose from, or we can pass both the motions were sent out why not more the merrier.

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Sarah Wauters: But i'm in it occurred to me, I was like well why do we have to um.

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Sarah Wauters: But most both both of these notions would be sent up to the dnc and we'd have to get them to pass it so that's one of the biggest considerations, is what do we think we can get past the dnc because they can be a kind of a rough crowd so.

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Sarah Wauters: Charles why don't you speak first about the emotion that you're working on and why the language is the way it is sure, thank you, sir.

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Sarah Wauters: First of all, this crowd seems pretty hip to these issues, I don't want to go into too much about the importance of names, but I think you have questions on that.

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Sarah Wauters: i'm more than happy to go into great detail on that and not going to find a better experts and Steve who taught me who's in the room and taught me a lot of things I know.

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Sarah Wauters: So don't you know don't hesitate to avail yourself of his vast knowledge on the subject, and I know Isabel knows like huge amount about native so shows under place or a wealth of knowledge, the most important thing here is is really kind of ties into words.

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Sarah Wauters: What is about was saying, at the very beginning, the country was talking about the urban forestry department that has come back after after stakeholder.

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Sarah Wauters: input was provided and the system work exactly the way the system was going to work, the city basically said to hell with that we're going to do whatever we want and we'll throw a little bit of token action your way.

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Sarah Wauters: And I don't want to get into disparaging individuals or anything, because I think everybody means well and everybody has the right, the right.

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Sarah Wauters: The right heart and the matter they're just not choosing the right path, and this is basically a function that are these two motions or an effort to to really create a groundswell of support.

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Sarah Wauters: and demonstrate that throughout the city, this is what the people who live in the city want We understand that 90% of our part of butterflies and bees and.

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Sarah Wauters: And songbird some disappeared from Los Angeles, we understand that this is connected to the Google play store all of our habitat with stuff from elsewhere around the planet.

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Sarah Wauters: You know, getting back to what you guys will just saying a moment ago, where you were talking about well as the trees committee or is this a finance committee kind of thing.

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Sarah Wauters: The most important thing I think an MC can do is start thinking about systems, because the city is not doing that.

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Sarah Wauters: And the most important thing you can do for your treats is to think about systems and think about the trees, as part of an ecosystem.

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Sarah Wauters: And when you start thinking about ecosystems, it is impossible to conclude that the best choice is anything other than a native tree or every application.

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Sarah Wauters: And that's true for native plants and all landscaping, with the exception of the second motion does make.

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Sarah Wauters: An exception, for you know stuff that's what human food or you know, sometimes recreational fields it doesn't make sense, because you know we we want might be appropriate for soccer or something like that, but in general, the idea is, we want to go to the city and tell them.

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Sarah Wauters: This is what the city had 150 years ago it's ridiculous to continue to to use this European idea of what it should look like when we have the wonderful opportunities to save water.

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Sarah Wauters: To help biodiversity to save energy, to reduce green waste to actually restore our sense of geographic identity and put in place by actually plan to make.

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Sarah Wauters: you're going to hear three arguments from people against this, the three arguments are number one well we can't find any natives.

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Sarah Wauters: that's a supply and demand thing if the city becomes their their first of all, there are quite a few nurseries, that only the name of the city doesn't contract within.

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Sarah Wauters: So if the city is suddenly told you have to do natives and maybe contract with those nurseries.

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Sarah Wauters: Second, of all the nurseries, they are contracted with we'll start going natives and they understand that one of their biggest clients once made it.

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Sarah Wauters: So those those are kind of you know horse before the cart cart before the horse kind of.

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Sarah Wauters: The second argument you're going to hear is a really specious arguments it's it's an argument that we don't have hardly any native trees, we don't have enough native trees.

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Sarah Wauters: And we need to plan a diversity of trees are going to use the word diversity to actually try to counter biodiversity.

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Sarah Wauters: Let me be very clear that planting lots of different types of trees that are not native is not biodiversity.

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Sarah Wauters: That does nothing for the ecosystem it's just different colors and different shapes of sterile plants that you're planting throughout the city that do nothing to incorporate.

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Sarah Wauters: All of the biodiversity from the soil microbes all the way up the food chain.

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Sarah Wauters: So it is really important that you understand that we have 37 native trees on the approved street tree list.

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Sarah Wauters: The city doesn't publicize that publicize all those it doesn't it doesn't share that information but they're legally approved by urban forestry and the city.

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Sarah Wauters: That we have 37 I wouldn't recommend all 37 of those I read them up 3334 of them and there's at least another doesn't need of trees that should be on that list that will continue to try to get on there.

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Sarah Wauters: The Nice me the bio diversity of native species that we can find throughout the city is not in question at all the city is going to tell you there's only four countries that they that are made up, we can plan and that's just not the case.

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Sarah Wauters: The last argument is going to be that they're going to argue pests they're going to argue diseases and they're going to argue climate change only kind of one thing i'm saying that natives are not party in cancer live.

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Sarah Wauters: First of all, with respect to climate change, there is no worse scientific argument, then we should bring in trees from other ecosystems that don't support biodiversity and plant them here to prepare for the fact that climate change is underway.

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Sarah Wauters: We we happen to live in an area that has one of the greatest variances and annual rainfall of anywhere on the planet.

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Sarah Wauters: The really important takeaway here is that over the last 8000 years we've had periods of breath that have lost 142 years.

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Sarah Wauters: The The 20th century was one of the three when a centuries in the last 8000 years and wellness and the last 2000 years when we spent the entire time filling up the city with non native plants and trees.

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Sarah Wauters: Are natives have built into their DNA, the ability to go through long cycles of severe drought long cycles of.

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Sarah Wauters: Great variants more so than almost any other points on the entire planet.

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Sarah Wauters: And so they are the best way even before you consider the fact that they're, the only way to help all the birds and the bees and butterflies.

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Sarah Wauters: they're the they're the best clients that give us a chance to adapt to climate going forward as the entire ecosystem needs to be able to adapt.

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Sarah Wauters: So that's kind of the idea here, these motions of the month, the second motion the option to motion has already been passed by entrepreneur Council.

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Sarah Wauters: it's also gone through committee successfully at the summer, like neighborhood Council and it's been considered it for others.

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Sarah Wauters: I plan to take this all of the 99 different Councils of possible, the next few years i'm only doing a few at a time because i'm just in the mundane.

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Sarah Wauters: But there's a lot of people that are involved in this and you know I know that we don't have as neighborhood Councils, the ability to tell us what to do and to expect them to absolutely do it.

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Sarah Wauters: But what we do have the ability to do is spread information amongst stakeholders and demonstrate that there is actually a consensus among the people that live in a space.

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Sarah Wauters: And that's the kind of stuff that city council members eventually use a political cover to act because they're politicians and they want political cover when they move forward up things and so really that's that's what's going on.

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Sarah Wauters: anybody has any questions that we have, and I want to thank Sarah and Isabel and everybody who invited me to be.

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Sarah Wauters: Go ahead mark.

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Sarah Wauters: How would either those motions operate in a situation where.

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Sarah Wauters: One particular your invest, there were large.

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Sarah Wauters: areas under give your as 30 years 28 years ago that were planted in were then approved street trees and they now have a canopy.

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Sarah Wauters: particular kind of tree.

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Sarah Wauters: I was responsible for one of those can be astounding sometimes around the post office there are 21 of them, they are quite well established and we had one die off.

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Sarah Wauters: some reason, a few years ago I raised the money and we find a timestamp bar and the same would be true place instead.

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Sarah Wauters: of getting put in various kinds of funds and.

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Sarah Wauters: I personally like to maintain their trees, they certainly help with the climate change issue.

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Sarah Wauters: I would rather not have emotions that requires that we change out in those circumstances and treat when a different species went and trees die.

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Sarah Wauters: And curious would your emotion force and postal libel on to grant replace an Italian so i'm fine Thank you a question mark, let me start by saying that.

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Sarah Wauters: The city has already made that decision for you and they're not going to be planting the same species in situation where they have a certain tree guy when you have a monoculture of one species.

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Sarah Wauters: And they have already embraced the idea that, because of disease spreads and things like that.

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Sarah Wauters: The idea of finding an entire screen at one tree, is something that they have moved away from an entire area of one through sin city is already opposed.

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Sarah Wauters: To essentially doing what you're saying, regardless of whether the tree species is made of or non so there's already.

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Sarah Wauters: A changing of thinking within urban forestry to that level, but they don't want to see all the same kind of tree in one location that's an aesthetic that that.

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Sarah Wauters: comes from a different tradition, and you can argue what you like and that's all cool.

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Sarah Wauters: But the truth of the matter is by planting a monoculture just one tree, regardless of what it is, you are creating a vulnerability to to pass them on are willing to disease and the city's move away from that.

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Sarah Wauters: Particular property you're talking about private property this isn't talking about that at all.

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Sarah Wauters: This motion these these two motions have nothing to do with forcing the city to do anything what they are is saying that the stakeholders want us to find natives and when.

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Sarah Wauters: trees, need to be replaced and landscaping is done, we should be finding natives it's then up to the city to have specific policy to that.

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Sarah Wauters: So I can tell you that number one urban forest who's already moved away from monoculture so that's that that's kind of a debate that's already been settled.

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Sarah Wauters: But the in particular whether or not the tree is native is is not trying to battle, the model control issue because that's already out there about.

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Sarah Wauters: That answer your question, so instead I mean, I understand that you say that you would like to have the same kind of tree replaced in a place in a certain space, but I can but I can tell you that the the the era of that mono cultural setting is probably behind us and.

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Sarah Wauters: All trees have a certain amount of life and policies will be specific and it will be up to Sydney to work those out.

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Sarah Wauters: If a city decides hey we have a monoculture and we like that aesthetic and all of these trees are about three quarters, through their lives, and we have one that's.

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Sarah Wauters: One that's dead, we want to replace it for the next 25 years until all these trees would either be replaced, then they could make a policy, and you can lobby as a tablet policy that has until the end of life for the median.

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Sarah Wauters: Rather than mean age of those trees, you should maintain that steady because that's the most cost effective, you can certainly make them are.

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Sarah Wauters: But with respect to replacing the entirety of them when the those trees reach end of life, this argument would be that those should be now put in with a diverse selection of natives at that time.

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Sarah Wauters: Because.

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Sarah Wauters: One of the arguments and we were fighting those trees.

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Sarah Wauters: They significantly enhance probably go to some extent.

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Sarah Wauters: wondering supposed to run my street reality, they will find it by any.

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Sarah Wauters: Again monoculture for you you're going to find what about.

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Sarah Wauters: The other finds the input on Venice way, for example, for the sycamores i'm looking to buy property they think they're getting that look that aesthetic and you fall and i'm speaking for them.

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Sarah Wauters: and

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Sarah Wauters: I had not heard that the city has walked away from.

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Sarah Wauters: Just using the same tree on a particular block all the trees on.

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Sarah Wauters: That Ben written down somewhere or.

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Sarah Wauters: I can try to find it for me, but if you talk to me and that's one of yours, where the urban forestry people and the sea for startups or do seem to have a different perspective than what you would have seen 1015 years ago kind of thing and.

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Sarah Wauters: You know, speaking of what you've said that there's also good data, and I know zillow put out some information on this recently that.

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Sarah Wauters: That property values are actually higher when you have local made it's pointed in a particular region.

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Sarah Wauters: and have new efforts to be water, efficient and supported by the diversity and then, when people see properties and see streets, where there are lots of butterflies and bees and and songbirds.

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Sarah Wauters: That actually increases the property value.

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Sarah Wauters: And that the buyers chase tastes have changed someone from the culture of someone in the past of wanting to see, like all liquidambar treats trees down the street.

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Sarah Wauters: Knowing today what i'm going oh that that means country is going to be silent you're not going to have any butterflies you're not going to have any supporting the local farm, so I do think tastes in real estate markets constantly change.

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Sarah Wauters: And I do think that is something that is always a legitimate conversation, but right now, because climate change is something that we're really aware of the.

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Sarah Wauters: People understanding that we need to actually have an urban forest that supports.

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Sarah Wauters: Biodiversity and prepares us for climate change is actually something that increases property values and there's there's some good metrics to that effect.

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Sarah Wauters: There will always be people that disagree, I mean there will always be you know somebody who says, I just want the entire street you can jump around I don't care if there's a number of butterflies.

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Sarah Wauters: butterflies or an annoyance I don't want any of that and that doesn't mean that their view is legitimate, but in terms of.

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Sarah Wauters: Policy and stakeholders on what supports the help of the urban forest and the health in the city, I think we need to move in a different direction so there's no middle ground.

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Sarah Wauters: When the online increase does reach that point when the guy on and that that is when.

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Sarah Wauters: The native with him or to get me yeah yeah No one to be very clear i'm not calling for, and no one who is supporting the navy's motions to my knowledge is calling for the removal of healthy treats.

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Sarah Wauters: I understand that that mature canopy functions or key island reduction and also functions for a year, some climate change benefits.

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Sarah Wauters: Those are largely a function of biomass, not of species, and those are legitimate values, and so we want to take advantage of those trees that have an investment of decades of time.

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Sarah Wauters: But yes, if we started planting every single client that we put in the ground today we started putting in the native trees only 100% today.

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Sarah Wauters: We would still have a majority of non native trees and in 50 years, maybe 100 years.

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Sarah Wauters: So this is not going to drastically change the city tomorrow or something like that it is simply a different way of doing things to try to restore the health to what it was so then 200 years.

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Sarah Wauters: 300 years we will have an urban forest that is actually completely in alignment with what it needs to be for climate change.

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Sarah Wauters: And is restored to to what it needs to be, but nothing so radical is trying to rip out what's there and what is healthy because it costs too much there's too many fights, and this is just.

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Sarah Wauters: If we're going to be putting stuff into the ground let's put the best stuff we can put into the ground.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay i'm sorry mark I think it's time to move on to folks that would also like to continue and okay thanks um no no go ahead, please.

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Sarah Wauters: Charles I will question about how you feel about her the truth, I think I know the your answer to this, but invest, we have a number of non native sort of what I would call I kind of.

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Sarah Wauters: palm isn't the two three I know.

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Sarah Wauters: People invite us are crazy about their problems and there are also some eucalyptus here that are old, I think some of them will actually play the lab it can either, like it or not.

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Sarah Wauters: People are people are these trees more and icons.

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Sarah Wauters: contributors to climate change, I think there's an emotional element involved and I also love to know how you go about problems in general, I know how he feels about.

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Sarah Wauters: ornamental.

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Sarah Wauters: Nice, but not.

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Sarah Wauters: not great, you know to me there's no better metaphor for what we've done the last 10 years I moved to Los Angeles to grow us.

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Sarah Wauters: And I my idea of Los Angeles with palm trees that i'd seen on bad TV shows growing up, and again it's kind of it but that's what Los Angeles, is all.

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Sarah Wauters: I had no idea that there's, not a single country is needed to Los Angeles county there's only one that's native to the state, and you can only ever seen in Los Angeles, because it's growing and doesn't.

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Sarah Wauters: fit most landscaping situations, I live in palms for god's sakes that's that's the irony of this entire conversation is that i'm going around all the neighborhood Councils and I live in a place name for trees that 140 years ago started pointing here that don't have any business here.

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Sarah Wauters: With respect to those things that have become iconic Noel they are they represented tremendous last.

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Sarah Wauters: opportunity to actually have something that is indigenous and unique to Los Angeles, and I use the word unique specifically here without a modifier meaning, one of the common.

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Sarah Wauters: We have trees that are specific to Los Angeles county that were everywhere 100 years ago some of their some of them are on the verge of extinction their very existence is threatened.

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Sarah Wauters: Because we have brought in European and tropical and in Chinese aesthetics about what should be here and.

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Sarah Wauters: Just because somebody likes a certain tree doesn't mean that's the tree that should be here, I.

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Sarah Wauters: I like liquid Mr trees that's the first time I ever planted when I was a child, on a farm in Kansas I don't think they belong here.

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Sarah Wauters: I think jack around trees look really cool I don't think they belong here the Mississippi swamp trees that you see everywhere in Los Angeles and magnolia troops they're really cool again you'll never see a butterfly in a single one and.

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Sarah Wauters: They use much, much more water than they should and they shouldn't be here let's you know, take a trip in Mississippi to see the magnolias where they're supposed to be.

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Sarah Wauters: Taking a trip to the other places where those things belong and upright and as part of their own ecosystems, so what I would argue, is.

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Sarah Wauters: None of us in this room, are going to outlive the trees that you're talking about that exist in Los Angeles right now they're going to be there for the rest of our lives.

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Sarah Wauters: And they're going to outlive us in many applications so you're not going to to suddenly not have an opportunity to see palm trees, or to see under heritage trees that you're talking about.

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Sarah Wauters: They simply don't support a healthy ecosystem and I would much rather be able to live in Los Angeles, where I can also see butterflies.

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Sarah Wauters: there's you don't see and as long as we continue to plant some trees and the plants that don't belong here you won't see them.

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Sarah Wauters: And so I think it's really important that we continue to take advantage of pointing opportunities but put things in putting things into the ground that actually works and.

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Sarah Wauters: parcel of this either any trees, I personally would would request that the city never planned another Jingle began.

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Sarah Wauters: because, from what I understand that they are about both sterile tree that we can plan a question.

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Sarah Wauters: yeah What would you would you also create a list for the city of trees that was to never be planted.

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Sarah Wauters: So I wouldn't get into that game because let that be a game for the policy people I think when you start when you start getting into certain percentage should be natives are these trees are definitely that and these trees are are less bad.

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Sarah Wauters: it's a losing game and you've lost the argument I think as a neighborhood Council you keep that idea simple.

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Sarah Wauters: And you keep the message simple message is the stakeholders understand that the only way to save biodiversity in a climate crisis is to plant, the trees that major spent millions of years of all them to specifically adapt to where we are right now.

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Sarah Wauters: And that means you should plant made at the policy an office wants to develop a policy and say this tree is more appropriate in this area, this tree more pertinent to that area, let that be a walk issue for those individuals.

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Sarah Wauters: As stakeholders, we need to be able to all get around the idea that we want to see our ecosystem preserved in our biodiversity rescue and that is only possible if we focus on natives okay.

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Sarah Wauters: um I I i'd like to move on to Isabel Isabel, but I do also want to say quickly before you speak is that we do need, we need to speak to whether or not we're going to pass either of these motions so i'd like you guys to keep that in the front of your mind.

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Sarah Wauters: it's it's wonderful to have charles's expertise, but I would like to focus on what is the action of this committee today Okay, so is about Please go ahead.

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Sarah Wauters: I have three points I wanted to make the first one is that only 3% of our public spaces are filled with native trees and if we planted every vacant spot, we would end up with less than 30% so it's Definitely not.

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Sarah Wauters: I can share with you this little diagram that that see fact put together we're talking about.

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Sarah Wauters: The available space, you can see what sizes are available and the number of spaces that are available so it's really not a huge number we're talking about the other thing I wanted to mention is that.

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Sarah Wauters: mark is that stone fine we're being planted urban forestry today, they would never allow another stone pine there because parkways much too narrow and they don't like sometimes anymore they're no longer on the street treeless so.

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Sarah Wauters: We see you know, most of us in this room have rented a lot of trees, working with the city and over there by the post office they would let us plant, like the most lame plans ever like Andrew lantus or cassie or when is it's like a five foot parkway right it's like five by.

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Sarah Wauters: You know, so my point was is that they just say, the number of species that are looking at and the types of species I mentioned, there from the desert there from.

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Sarah Wauters: You know, Arizona their trees have barely producing shade, and a lot of the native trees that we would consider planting instead of.

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Sarah Wauters: Missing some time might be a tree that has a similar shape or form it just happens to be a native and actually an oak tree would look a lot like oh i'm fine if you, you know, let it grow and let it mature and and and gave it the space that it needed.

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Sarah Wauters: The last one I wanted to make is that Charles is right about any plans.

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Sarah Wauters: Maybe I should new person.

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Sarah Wauters: whoever's on the there we go um the city just planted 50 trees on federal and you can go drive by there and see how they did it they alternated trees, so they planted a water gun and then an Eastern read by and then.

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Sarah Wauters: And I don't think it was android devices, but they just alternate it and it was it's basically like Willy nilly it's like whatever they have in the nursery nowadays so they're definitely not doing their frowning upon planting.

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Sarah Wauters: moto moto creates yeah and I don't actually agree with that and I prayed on a view to Charles on that I actually like to see one street with one tree, just like you do and that's why we've been planting all island oh on this street.

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Sarah Wauters: And all oaks on that street because I like to have that that.

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Sarah Wauters: That flavor so it's not all mixed up just the points I wanted to me thank you okay thanks as well, so forth the motions I spoke.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay support both options okay that's say that even if we pass it they're not going to listen to us so there's no threat that will never be able to plan another whatever.

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Sarah Wauters: yeah I don't I mean it listen, I think that the statement is really what's important, and I also do think that education of our own.

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Sarah Wauters: neighborhood Council is also important, and so, so what option one which came from si si fact has a lot of the sea fact language I did I was trying to create an option that would be both see fact language and the poems.

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Sarah Wauters: Language combined, but what this effect notion motion does isn't it really provides a lot of education, the whereas is the conditions proceedings which are presented there.

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Sarah Wauters: Are you know that it educated me, I mean I had no idea that if you planted every single parkway with natives, then we would end up with 29% I didn't know that So those are facts that are important for.

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Sarah Wauters: Even our you know lowly neighborhood Councils to know, because once you spread that information out.

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Sarah Wauters: And that is one of the things that I think is really satisfying about this work is that the more and more people you talk to.

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Sarah Wauters: The more they perk up their ears and figure out Oh, what is she talking about does make sense, and I think Isabel you yourself have experienced.

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Sarah Wauters: A few setbacks, but the fact is, is that you're talking about these issues has converted, a lot of people and so.

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Sarah Wauters: I would like to say that I think we should probably put one motion to the neighborhood Council, and I think we should try to let them get them to let us educate them for a minute or two before they.

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Sarah Wauters: discuss the motion so of these two motions which one do we think is more important to pass so.

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Sarah Wauters: Just briefly that Sir yes.

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Sarah Wauters: I do want to be originally the first version of the nc one option two there were two versions of that as well, and there was one that was much, much longer and included a lot of educational information.

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Sarah Wauters: And the thinking was in that committee, and this is echoing now and several other agencies that i've been speaking to.

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Sarah Wauters: Is that they wanted something fairly compact fairly simple and everybody that way everybody can get on board with the same language, we would have the same language.

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Sarah Wauters: And so, whereas I 100% support the seat back motion was at that meeting, and was thrilled to see it and thank Isabel and all the others who played a role in bringing that to be.

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Sarah Wauters: I would love to see us both, but I would specifically love to sleep us the second one only because it's the same language that we're taking the other and seeds and I think we have more clout.

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Sarah Wauters: As stakeholders throughout the city if we're passing similar motion similar language throughout the city, because then it's you know basically says we can all agree, you know right okay okay Michael.

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Sarah Wauters: yeah what difference in the two motions is that one is requested streets la and urban forestry division and the other is a.

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Sarah Wauters: request to our appeal to the county and city of Los Angeles, or those intended to be different subjects.

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Sarah Wauters: Michael the reason the language on the second one I can't speak to the person I didn't write it, the reason the languages, and the second one is broader.

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Sarah Wauters: Is that we wanted to get away from this idea that neighborhood councils are somehow this this non powerful subsidiary of the city council.

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Sarah Wauters: Where we just say we want and City Council does whatever it wants that's not the way.

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Sarah Wauters: The nc is where the buys I worked with urban chemerinsky years ago, who have come up with the whole idea of the neighborhood Council system, and I was at usc or I worked for him under the law school and.

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Sarah Wauters: There, and the idea of the neighborhood Councils, was to provide stakeholder input on things on a broad level of what you want to happen inside your MC regardless of who the government entities are.

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Sarah Wauters: and taking that language, and the second one we've already started making inroads.

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Sarah Wauters: To working with groups in pasadena in burbank and other areas within la county to make this a countywide effort to say hey doesn't matter what the city of borders are anywhere in southern California region.

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Sarah Wauters: This is what we should be doing the same our ecosystem and so that's why the language is brought up we don't have the authority to dictate this to anybody.

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Sarah Wauters: But we do have the authority to express our opinion and say hey you're making decisions about where we live, these are decisions we want you to make, and I, I will, with a comment to Charles whose response.

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Sarah Wauters: And in fact streets la and urban forestry division are within the county and city of Los Angeles, so we don't need to specify those particular.

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Sarah Wauters: Entities Is that correct pharaoh's they don't they would get they would absolutely be included in that any any government, yes, public partnership would be included.

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Sarah Wauters: will also include things like metro which is accounting agency and does a huge amount of landscape.

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Sarah Wauters: And really your place and in fact your request is that we had done the second one, I would love, I certainly in favor you're adopting them both, but if you just.

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Sarah Wauters: end up one I would lean toward the second one, because it's a broader language and it's the language that several that we're taking the other instance.

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Sarah Wauters: Right so and other than the fact doesn't need you to support our motion right she doesn't, and the reason why see fact was there a specific is because that's kind of within ceefax role to interact with specific.

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Sarah Wauters: Parts of the city government and advise them, so I mean i'm recognizing that now as i'm looking at these two motions and.

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Sarah Wauters: Because of one of the because of what Charles is talking about I think i'm going to support passing option to.

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Sarah Wauters: And then I think that the education that is needed for the nc to really consider this seriously, I think some of the the the preamble, that is, in this effect can be presented, like we can verbally say that out loud in that meeting.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, so i'm sorry somebody else had their hand up, oh no well go ahead.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh you're on mute.

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Sarah Wauters: I would agree with you, Sir, I think.

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Sarah Wauters: I think that I think we should discount one out because I don't think we should have to yeah.

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Sarah Wauters: I think that's just confusing.

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Sarah Wauters: I think we should we should try to all get behind one motion Okay, mark you had your hand up yeah I agree with Charles that the neighborhood Council system.

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Sarah Wauters: was supposed to be.

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Sarah Wauters: rendering.

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Sarah Wauters: have more influence than it has, over the last 10 or 20 years but, having certain the Venice neighborhood Council and having been told, numerous times by done representative.

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Sarah Wauters: You know.

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Sarah Wauters: That we cannot legally comment or send messages to any entity, other than the city of La we can ask the city of La then relay our.

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Sarah Wauters: wishes, our policy goals but it's aspirational at this point the faith that we and the dnc can directly contact or.

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Sarah Wauters: Account we've been told that, even though we invite them to come to our meetings and and report to us and interact with us we've been told that we.

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Sarah Wauters: cannot directly send something, for example, the state of California, or to the county I disagree with that and I think that that was not the intent but that's where we are.

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Sarah Wauters: The other thing I wanted to say is that i'm just seeing these emotions today I apologize i've been out of town and catching up but for me.

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Sarah Wauters: I will be voting against either these unless they are amended one to give some right to the property owner and say, oh no i'd like to stay with the tree by have and not because that's what it said, with the, for example, the street.

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Sarah Wauters: So if I treat guys i'd like the opportunity to stay with the fall, for example, um and also the situation where a tree dies and.

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Sarah Wauters: I rather see some kind of men live affiliate committees going to go ahead and vote for her to understand that, but I just wanted to bring more people against me it's just not right, yet okay.

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Sarah Wauters: Really quickly this, this does not affect any thing that is within private domain private problem next everything is the parkway right he's talking about it.

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01:48:36.390 --> 01:48:42.510
Sarah Wauters: that's where the bombs are that's where the time zone fines are that's where the sycamores over all of our.

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Sarah Wauters: public property, we do in private and public constantly are currently urban forestry does not consult with property owners when they put in countries they want to put it.

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Sarah Wauters: Today, yes, but the property owner complaining that she before they get there right probably over to do it before they go to legal, but you can yes yeah you still can, and I do, and we do.

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01:49:04.080 --> 01:49:07.020
Sarah Wauters: We are aware of some some planting.

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Sarah Wauters: The city.

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01:49:09.810 --> 01:49:18.120
Sarah Wauters: I was praying and Randy Lucas to do exactly that yeah well, I was trained as an urban forest or in gorilla forestry and.

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Sarah Wauters: We were like this is being recorded for you to be done, and you should reach out to everybody, you want as an MC Member, you should never be afraid of done because there are a lot more.

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Sarah Wauters: than anything you're dealing with on the screen okay let's i'm sorry let's move on to the to Michael and his comment, and then I think that we're going to have to do do a vote because I would like to talk about the idea is here and Noel is here to talk about.

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Sarah Wauters: pruning and the injury that pruning is doing to our buyer diversity so Michael why don't you go ahead.

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Sarah Wauters: revolt not yet we're going to Okay, what are you going on uprooting before we vote on yeah i'm not saying i'm not going i'm just saying that that's our next agenda item we will vote and then we're going to move on to the next agenda item so.

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Sarah Wauters: Right i'm not sufficiently familiar with the process are we allowed to amend these words in front of us yeah okay so to take into account what are the two points that mark has made can we men this and I do I agree let's just ask for one, otherwise it sounds like we're confused.

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Sarah Wauters: We have men, so that we appeal to the city of Los Angeles continue everything else there take out county but then add that we also appeal to the city of Los Angeles, to make the same appeal to the county.

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Sarah Wauters: So then we're only directing our attention to the city which is I understood from what mark said that's all we're supposed to do with that address the issue mark.

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Sarah Wauters: yeah okay so so here's option to I think you guys can all see it right, and the amendment that you are suggesting is please repeat Michael.

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Sarah Wauters: The way that I would work in it, I would strike county each place about.

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01:51:10.320 --> 01:51:16.980
Sarah Wauters: we're in the third paragraph of option to Okay, and I can do these right in front of everyone right.

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01:51:18.360 --> 01:51:23.040
Sarah Wauters: And then, and so every place it says county taken out.

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01:51:25.020 --> 01:51:40.470
Sarah Wauters: But then add the way I would do this, a closet the end would go and further to appeal to the city of Los Angeles, to make us the same or similar request to the county of Los Angeles.

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Sarah Wauters: You really want to start a new sentence grammatically correct yeah.

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Sarah Wauters: I mean I love the semi colon so you could go, so now i'm a lawyer and we put clauses on top of classes, on top of classes, I love them so much.

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Sarah Wauters: it's all of you in business interpreting them right just because people can't read a long sentence doesn't mean you know.

643
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Sarah Wauters: Okay let's see here a.

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Sarah Wauters: Further appeal to the city of Los Angeles to.

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Sarah Wauters: request the county of Los Angeles to institute the same or similar policy.

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01:52:22.080 --> 01:52:23.670
Sarah Wauters: Did you say institute's.

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Sarah Wauters: sure.

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Sarah Wauters: I would say, establish establish a man and his agencies yep good way to get to.

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Sarah Wauters: metro yeah.

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Sarah Wauters: And I guess i'm going to push one more mark, I hear you I think this is clearly only robot to public spaces.

651
01:52:51.180 --> 01:52:57.810
Sarah Wauters: So I can play it whatever I want my own backyard, but what you're concerned about is you want some control over the parkway.

652
01:52:58.050 --> 01:53:03.210
Sarah Wauters: Right, where you live, is that what I understand and that's why you would oppose this yes okay.

653
01:53:03.480 --> 01:53:11.250
Sarah Wauters: The honest truth is mark is that you don't have control on illegal level over your parkway, but you have gorilla control over your parkway.

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Sarah Wauters: So whenever you're going to be planting let's we've already learned that the city of Los Angeles, is going to come away from monoculture.

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Sarah Wauters: we've already learned to the city of Los Angeles, is not planting any more stone pines or bombs, so if you want a palm planted you're going to do it yourself right so that's kind of not covered by this in any event.

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Sarah Wauters: Right chairs looking for consensus again.

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Sarah Wauters: I don't accept the fact that the city I don't like the fact that the city has moved against monoculture and i'd like to use as an opportunity to push back and say.

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Sarah Wauters: In in some instances existing on a car culture should be just as Charles is pushing for more power than the level of the Council i'm pushing for more powerful level of of each resident and each street in the block.

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Sarah Wauters: motion that may be less than one a separate version, where we say we would like them to stop planting.

660
01:54:19.620 --> 01:54:27.360
Sarah Wauters: Willy nilly verse tree planting, we would like to see you know but that's a whole different discussion might be.

661
01:54:28.020 --> 01:54:33.990
Sarah Wauters: On here yeah I mean, I think, I think that your concern is a really good one because, just as well, said.

662
01:54:34.740 --> 01:54:44.880
Sarah Wauters: Like if there were you know, a row of island oaks in my blog and then the city came along and said no, we have to mix it up here so we're putting in I don't want this.

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Sarah Wauters: I would be upset I would, I would say them know this this street is an island oak street, and this is we deserve to have another island oaks here, even though this one got hit by a truck or whatever happened to it.

664
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Sarah Wauters: So please replace it with what it should be replaced with but also additionally if they didn't do it, we would sneak in there and plant what we wanted right so.

665
01:55:08.220 --> 01:55:23.610
Sarah Wauters: that's a really good way there is there you'll have whole streets of Chinese on and they'll take down one for a driveway and then they'll put up like Australian willow or a whole street of London playing trees so i'll take one down and will replace that with a.

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Sarah Wauters: Fresh I mean they're not following that but I think I like that I think that's a separate discussion, I would like to put that on next month's agenda Okay, can we are and we make a note of that no well let's let's put the right Charles to discuss Mano culture among the native.

667
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Sarah Wauters: What do you think is that one to you guys right now i'm here for one minute.

668
01:55:55.170 --> 01:56:04.470
Sarah Wauters: you're arguing for this monoculture aesthetic tree it's kind of sounds like people that are arguing for monocultures of bonds and then after me.

669
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Sarah Wauters: This is a it's an Anti biodiversity argument is passed through the levels of installed i'm just trying to keep an eye towards the future and.

670
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Sarah Wauters: it's amazing that the city is also it's amazing it's actually on board with diversity at any time in public plantings I think you should really consider supporting here okay that's my thing anyway okay.

671
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Sarah Wauters: yeah let's let's make a note for that, because I do think you know it's it's all education right it's a it's a deeper understanding of what really is positive for our our environment okay so let's.

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Sarah Wauters: Just just you know put my as an md to that just for the for the purpose of the Linux our our item for the next agenda, I didn't want to word it real quick.

673
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Sarah Wauters: And we're going to have a discussion of policies surrounding monoculture versus.

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Sarah Wauters: mana mana culture it's multiple trees.

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Sarah Wauters: street rising next free will have something different so monoculture makes it sound bad okay.

676
01:57:22.200 --> 01:57:27.030
Sarah Wauters: But I would disagree and say that it's not bad that bell will you.

677
01:57:28.380 --> 01:57:40.410
Sarah Wauters: Please, just so we would come up with something you know for the minute, how do you want to phrase this we are going to have a discussion of policy regarding.

678
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Sarah Wauters: Diversity and single species.

679
01:57:46.080 --> 01:57:47.460
Sarah Wauters: yeah that's fine that's.

680
01:57:48.600 --> 01:58:02.520
Sarah Wauters: Okay that's fine simple so let's let's take a vote on before you guys vote, I think the Tuesday before after the appeals and before the city of angels disappeared from the wording.

681
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Sarah Wauters: Where Stephenson oh yeah he goes to the city will send us Okay, thank you all.

682
01:58:17.970 --> 01:58:25.620
Sarah Wauters: Where is my stomach of further and say, and here and to.

683
01:58:28.980 --> 01:58:30.960
Sarah Wauters: You might have some clarity, you might.

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01:58:31.980 --> 01:58:37.560
Sarah Wauters: The most relevant research subjects, so you might say, and the dnc other fields yeah.

685
01:58:44.160 --> 01:58:44.820
Sarah Wauters: appeals.

686
01:58:50.040 --> 01:58:55.890
Sarah Wauters: Okay, great I think we're all set so um let me stop sharing.

687
01:58:57.090 --> 01:59:03.810
Sarah Wauters: i've got that and i'll share that with you know, while i'm oh i'm sorry very yeah.

688
01:59:05.310 --> 01:59:06.540
Sarah Wauters: I didn't have you because.

689
01:59:07.980 --> 01:59:10.860
Sarah Wauters: I just this is really a question for Charles so.

690
01:59:12.750 --> 01:59:16.170
Sarah Wauters: Are you do, you also have a problem with.

691
01:59:17.250 --> 01:59:25.470
Sarah Wauters: say you know, like our block, where we have island folks and that you know, a monoculture so Does that also extend to the native.

692
01:59:26.130 --> 01:59:29.010
Sarah Wauters: tribe doesn't extend to our movement were silent on that issue.

693
01:59:29.370 --> 01:59:43.680
Sarah Wauters: is not an aesthetic necessarily appeals to me, not the same thing because that's not my major is and to me, the purpose of an urban forestry is to bring nature into our urban environment for people to experience, but I also understand there's a long tradition of that and.

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Sarah Wauters: These motions are completely silent on that, so you guys should do whatever you want to hear and see we just want to see it's important providing the person.

695
01:59:52.830 --> 02:00:01.890
Sarah Wauters: Well, that that I mean you do see oak forest and you do see you know turning trees do depending on conditions, you do see that i'm just.

696
02:00:02.610 --> 02:00:12.780
Sarah Wauters: More curious if you got to topanga and you see all the wonderful beautiful coastline coke and that force there it's also build in with you know the walnut tree.

697
02:00:13.050 --> 02:00:18.900
Sarah Wauters: With the commentary and with all the other stuff, so there is a lot of having diversity within what you see.

698
02:00:19.710 --> 02:00:32.910
Sarah Wauters: So layering effect two right here under stuff, which is a little different yes back to the idea of thinking about systems and how you know yeah let's think about one thing you think about how they all right.

699
02:00:33.930 --> 02:00:42.840
Sarah Wauters: thanks for that question very Okay, so it looks like there are no more questions unless Barry you still have your hand up you wanna yeah there you go Thank you.

700
02:00:44.580 --> 02:00:47.010
Sarah Wauters: So um let's vote on the motion.

701
02:00:49.500 --> 02:00:52.770
Sarah Wauters: I think we can just go ahead and vote we don't have the emotion and second.

702
02:00:54.210 --> 02:01:01.080
Sarah Wauters: All in favor, would you please raise your hand physically or can you call off the names, please, of course.

703
02:01:02.370 --> 02:01:14.790
Sarah Wauters: Okay, keep your hands up everybody keep your hands up okay so we're very campion Sarah waters Isabel is really raising her hand she's supporting it with her other hand.

704
02:01:16.980 --> 02:01:18.990
Sarah Wauters: Michael macguffin.

705
02:01:20.970 --> 02:01:21.840
Sarah Wauters: Noel.

706
02:01:23.460 --> 02:01:29.100
Sarah Wauters: All in favor Okay, do you are you okay with that now all opposed.

707
02:01:30.480 --> 02:01:32.370
Sarah Wauters: And we have opposition from mark.

708
02:01:35.160 --> 02:01:47.220
Sarah Wauters: Okay, thanks mark I and everyone voted, so I think we're done that's great so, then we will put this on the agenda for next month's B and C meeting.

709
02:01:48.360 --> 02:01:53.880
Sarah Wauters: And then i'll also talk to Jim about how can we present Sir what's doing that.

710
02:01:55.560 --> 02:01:57.180
Sarah Wauters: that's a good question i'm.

711
02:01:59.880 --> 02:02:03.630
Sarah Wauters: going to try and look right now but I can't guarantee a fast response.

712
02:02:06.240 --> 02:02:08.400
Sarah Wauters: Well, it looks like that close that down.

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Sarah Wauters: See.

714
02:02:26.340 --> 02:02:29.580
Sarah Wauters: Should but usually they have the dates up, but not always.

715
02:02:32.700 --> 02:02:35.610
Sarah Wauters: doesn't look like it's on there yet.

716
02:02:36.990 --> 02:02:41.490
Sarah Wauters: I could do for it i'll just email you today Okay, thank you, no worries.

717
02:02:42.750 --> 02:02:49.230
Sarah Wauters: Are some reason i'm an apartment complex can come on make sure that I have represented there, so no just answer questions.

718
02:02:50.460 --> 02:02:50.760
Sarah Wauters: And you're.

719
02:02:51.960 --> 02:02:56.610
Sarah Wauters: going to become pretty helpful okay Okay, please talk about.

720
02:02:57.810 --> 02:03:12.660
Sarah Wauters: Having a short presentation right because that's gonna be a tough audience yeah that's that's what I was saying, I was thinking that are getting another sub committee we did infrastructure so committee.

721
02:03:13.440 --> 02:03:22.890
Sarah Wauters: Maybe or you mean the parking and transportation folks or yeah yeah yeah Evan is gone, but I could certainly ask him if he's interested in supporting it.

722
02:03:23.910 --> 02:03:30.840
Sarah Wauters: it's you know he wants trees to be planted in that green architecture, so that would make sense for him to support it.

723
02:03:32.340 --> 02:03:38.610
Sarah Wauters: But I don't know i'd have to ask i'll touch base with him okay so let's move on.

724
02:03:41.220 --> 02:03:46.050
Sarah Wauters: To the next meeting should be the third Tuesday of June right the 21st.

725
02:03:47.160 --> 02:03:55.590
Sarah Wauters: isn't that the normal schedule for B and C is the third Tuesday of the month, then go yeah it's the Third, the third final.

726
02:03:56.700 --> 02:03:59.490
Sarah Wauters: not what it says on the dnc so all the.

727
02:04:00.540 --> 02:04:06.600
Sarah Wauters: chips, I went through the the Thursday following what.

728
02:04:08.190 --> 02:04:09.660
Sarah Wauters: you're asking about the VIP.

729
02:04:10.800 --> 02:04:11.970
Sarah Wauters: The third Thursday.

730
02:04:13.290 --> 02:04:16.080
Sarah Wauters: Not us know well, the best neighborhood Council.

731
02:04:17.100 --> 02:04:19.590
Sarah Wauters: Oh Tuesday first of June.

732
02:04:21.510 --> 02:04:26.850
Sarah Wauters: So yeah so if it says that that should be the 21st but, of course, things do change occasionally so.

733
02:04:27.600 --> 02:04:44.670
Sarah Wauters: I will look think they might have that stated on the on their agenda, I mean sorry on their minutes so i'll look at the Minutes and get back to everybody um okay door hangers now while we're waiting for the opportunity in the conversation on there we go Thank you okay thanks Steve.

734
02:04:46.140 --> 02:04:51.870
Sarah Wauters: No i'm sorry Charles I think we should table to the next meeting, oh yeah.

735
02:04:53.280 --> 02:05:06.900
Sarah Wauters: Okay well you know what I would like to give is Oh yes, and we only have six minutes left I you've been so patient and you did, and she came along, because she was going to show us some photographs of hers.

736
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Sarah Wauters: That portray what happened when someone trim the tree outside of her home, so I have do you have your photographs up and ready to go no Okay, I actually emailed them to you yeah I haven't I have for me, I like I think I can you just have to wait for two seconds here, while I find them.

737
02:05:34.140 --> 02:05:37.470
Sarah Wauters: Oh yeah they are kind of a lot more efficient than I thought it was going to be.

738
02:05:40.830 --> 02:05:43.830
Sarah Wauters: Okay, so let me.

739
02:05:44.910 --> 02:05:46.230
Sarah Wauters: share my screen.

740
02:05:52.770 --> 02:05:55.980
Sarah Wauters: Okay, this looks can you guys all see that.

741
02:05:57.570 --> 02:06:14.010
Sarah Wauters: Okay, this looks like it's after it's been trimmed Is that correct yeah did you get the one that I said before, maybe they didn't get sent in the right order, there was one that was a screenshot of the video that I took that showed the tree before and after.

742
02:06:16.890 --> 02:06:28.920
Sarah Wauters: I have, I have, I have one, let me I have 121234567 images I don't know which one is the screenshot.

743
02:06:30.450 --> 02:06:37.920
Sarah Wauters: let's have a look through them and then I can show you possibly okay so has that come up for you guys no it hasn't changed that's it.

744
02:06:40.260 --> 02:06:41.250
Sarah Wauters: Let me.

745
02:06:42.450 --> 02:06:43.470
Sarah Wauters: Do that right now.

746
02:06:49.440 --> 02:07:01.170
Sarah Wauters: How does that look yes excellent okay tell us what happened here Okay, so I live on the street for the avenue sorry i've only been in a six month rental there.

747
02:07:01.980 --> 02:07:13.440
Sarah Wauters: And I met Noel actually because the eucalyptus trees right outside my house had been over trimmed and that's how Noel and I meant few months ago, but.

748
02:07:14.190 --> 02:07:28.440
Sarah Wauters: Apparently, what we're looking at here is um it's a ficus tree, I believe, and I woke up one morning to you can see there's a workaround upon tree in front he's on a ladder.

749
02:07:29.520 --> 02:07:39.120
Sarah Wauters: And it was about eight o'clock in the morning and I actually had to go to the dmv that morning, so I didn't have time to go and talk to him, but I thought he was just trimming that punchy as Okay, no.

750
02:07:40.080 --> 02:07:48.900
Sarah Wauters: Se body and he's just doing his thing and then, when I came back from the dmv the previous photo that you showed was.

751
02:07:50.190 --> 02:07:59.880
Sarah Wauters: That homeowner had been trying to sell his house, I believe, for about two months, because one of my friends actually went to see it, two months ago, so he's had his house.

752
02:08:00.390 --> 02:08:10.890
Sarah Wauters: On the market for quite a while, and I believe that that tree, perhaps, maybe was creating a lot of shade on the ground floor so he's.

753
02:08:12.300 --> 02:08:16.410
Sarah Wauters: You know, decided or been advised by real estate agent to trim that tree.

754
02:08:17.130 --> 02:08:30.720
Sarah Wauters: For showing and what you see on that second picture, with the truck it's completely empty, those are the trucks completely empty and this picture that we're looking at now and then, if you show the other picture that we were looking at okay just.

755
02:08:31.470 --> 02:08:34.140
Sarah Wauters: takes a few there's a few steps of all but.

756
02:08:36.900 --> 02:08:37.680
Sarah Wauters: your nose.

757
02:08:39.510 --> 02:08:40.500
Sarah Wauters: Can you guys see that.

758
02:08:42.300 --> 02:08:50.790
Sarah Wauters: was quite a big truck so um it was full very, very heavy leaves and tree and trunks.

759
02:08:51.870 --> 02:08:53.940
Sarah Wauters: And the whole thing it was taller than me.

760
02:08:55.590 --> 02:09:02.880
Sarah Wauters: So it was a lot of the tree was gone yeah I, I can see actually there's another image that.

761
02:09:04.170 --> 02:09:14.550
Sarah Wauters: Did you take you took a couple of images once the tree had been sort of trend a little bit, that is correct, let me, let me share those two.

762
02:09:17.910 --> 02:09:21.030
Sarah Wauters: I wish this was easier to do but.

763
02:09:23.820 --> 02:09:24.390
Sarah Wauters: i'm sure.

764
02:09:36.780 --> 02:09:37.350
Sarah Wauters: i'm.

765
02:09:39.960 --> 02:09:44.250
Sarah Wauters: Sorry guys me a little bit longer this time this setup right.

766
02:09:45.600 --> 02:09:46.320
Sarah Wauters: This one.

767
02:09:49.200 --> 02:09:54.600
Sarah Wauters: Okay, so that looks like it had been spend quite a bit, are you guys able to see that.

768
02:09:57.000 --> 02:10:14.730
Sarah Wauters: Okay um when you were close to the tree could literally see the sky, you know when you're close to the tree that you could really see through it, so I mean it took like half the tree out basically all I felt like 40% of them, I would say, and kind of left the structure of it.

769
02:10:15.930 --> 02:10:17.700
Sarah Wauters: Account the middle of it and.

770
02:10:19.200 --> 02:10:28.680
Sarah Wauters: I asked the worker that was there with the chain, so if he was aware that it was nesting season and he basically laughed at me.

771
02:10:30.810 --> 02:10:43.740
Sarah Wauters: and said that this is about money and I asked them if they want to trim and I tell them if there's an s there and they tell me, yes or no, and he was very kind of not very person and.

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Sarah Wauters: I said Okay, what do you do, you have the owners information and he basically said no, and then he actually happened to come back.

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Sarah Wauters: And I spoke to him and he was really nice young guy German and.

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Sarah Wauters: I said to him Oh, you know this is your property i'm so sorry to tell you this, but I don't know if you notice nesting season right now.

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Sarah Wauters: And you see that hummingbird that's frantically circling the tree going up and down right now, and he looked we looked at it and I said she's looking for her nest right now, and I think the nest is in this truck.

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Sarah Wauters: You see, she she's frantic and i've seen this before, because when the eucalyptus was.

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Sarah Wauters: Over trimmed outside my house, I saw the hammers when they were looking at it used to be here and now it's gone, you can tell when they're frantic.

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Sarah Wauters: And we looked at the hummingbird that was being frantic looking for her last and he says, oh my God it was her nest in the tree I said yes, he said, oh i'm so sorry I.

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Sarah Wauters: I have no idea if I knew this I would never have done this, I love animals, and that was at that point that I realized, you know, this is a nice guy he he just simply wasn't educated and you didn't know.

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Sarah Wauters: And he said well my real estate agent never told me there's no one told me this they just said, you know you might need to create more son and he said, had I known this I would have felt terrible doings.

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Sarah Wauters: So I think it would be a good idea to have flyers to educate people to give people the option, because a lot of them they're not educated, it seems by the real estate agency them.

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Sarah Wauters: And a lot of the buying and the selling frenzy that's happening in Venice right now oh yeah and there's going to be more.

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Sarah Wauters: So I just wanted to jump in there actually I feel the responsibility is really more with the tree tremor or the arborist because very clear protocols that you can find them online.

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Sarah Wauters: You know you're not supposed to train trees and nesting season there's protocols, if you find an ass if it's a native bird if.

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Sarah Wauters: There is a lot of information, but I know what you're saying for the general public, people don't know.

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Sarah Wauters: So I think the general public, relies on these tree trimmers and a lot of them are just literally a man with a truck in the chain soon.

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Sarah Wauters: Right and a lot of them are not licensed it's very it's a very expensive business because of the insurance, so a lot of them aren't license and they don't really they're like you said it's about making a living so.

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Sarah Wauters: Possibly I don't know how it would you know you could look at maybe I don't know how to change the lowest on that I also work with a hummingbird rescuer name is Terry master nursing i'm about 40 or 50 hummingbird chicks right now that's a victims.

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Sarah Wauters: featuring wow seriously crazy that's insane God well, thank you, I I do think that so so Noel wants to push.

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Sarah Wauters: The door hanger conversation to the next time but I sort of feel like it's a little bit more urgent and maybe we move ahead with something in the in the meantime Noel and we get some door hangers out there just through maybe on Saturday we put some out there when we're doing our work.

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Sarah Wauters: We could possibly put even some pictures of the hummingbird most being next to a quarter of how small they are, and maybe some little hummingbird checks and now something like that, because I think if people see that and children see that, especially, maybe even educating children.

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Sarah Wauters: educate their parents, you know because children are the best advocates for nature, when they really.

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Sarah Wauters: They know right and wrong and the page absolutely.

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Sarah Wauters: Well noel's idea was to put together a door hanger that would educate people not to turn their trees during.

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Sarah Wauters: nesting season, if you show a little nest to look forward to next to it, how small they are, and so vulnerable and so there's no way that you can really see them and they oh I won't turn that branch, I mean you just have to kind of hold off so.

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Sarah Wauters: So thank you, I maybe maybe we could ask you to get a photograph from your friends of the nests does she have any or and we can probably pull it from.

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Sarah Wauters: The Internet to do it from the Internet she's extremely busy right now to us but she's right that's all right if she's watching over some hummingbirds it's probably best that we leave her alone.

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Sarah Wauters: What what is it.

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Sarah Wauters: I just want to say that i'm I still want to do i'm not i'm not withdrawing support for trainers I think it's a great idea I think we're probably not going to get our act together for.

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Sarah Wauters: Today, I think we should get our act together before the next best thing Susan I don't I don't think we're going to get it together for this one, and I think we should design it carefully to make sure that doesn't have to them on.

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Sarah Wauters: Because they want that, when we have that we have that huge door hanger that that I believe city plants put up and we read about wonderful instructions on how to water, a tree I can't find anybody that is ever.

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Sarah Wauters: put out over $100 and advice to other people say oh yeah and just throw them away so we would like to get all this rent so it can be real simple real graphic.

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Sarah Wauters: to deploy a single subject it's don't don't try for new trees and then so okay go ahead mark and just provide vacation when is the nesting season, we were dangerous are we dealing with right now well the the hawks and the.

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Sarah Wauters: raptors their nesting season is earlier, there you know really February and March, and then the songbirds you know they have many of them have several groups so really from April may to July August is wondering.

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Sarah Wauters: If we could just put something out on next door and then his Facebook page that's from Isabel and if you've been a couple.

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Sarah Wauters: The photographs of the hummingbird and the mess.

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Sarah Wauters: We could reach a lot more people a lot more quickly, the people do read social media and follow it, and that is there certainly inclined to be.

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Sarah Wauters: protective of nature, like that.

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Sarah Wauters: This shouldn't be really a stretch for the you know treat tremors because you're you're really not supposed to trim trees in the spring, anyway, because that's when the SAP is running the trees and it it's.

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Sarah Wauters: it's damaging the prune trees, other than oak trees in the springtime bro you don't want to you know the cooler weather is when you should be pruning so they actually go together.

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Sarah Wauters: i'm going to help work with anybody to come up with something short I could even put it out to those stakeholders association.

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Sarah Wauters: If, for some reason year as well, let me put it out through the Harvard Okay, well, I think yeah I think we should, I think all of those.

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Sarah Wauters: avenues are good who's who's on next door on a regular basis anybody here you are mark, maybe Noel could you come up with some really brief wording and send it to mark and then mark can put it out there.

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Sarah Wauters: And then, so that would have to have the dates of the nesting season and just you know don't turn your trees during nesting season like pretty basic and.

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Sarah Wauters: important thing would be the picture of a hummingbird and the picture of.

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Sarah Wauters: The visuals what's the reason for it is.

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Sarah Wauters: Nothing is ever had that for a while, I just wanted to say one thing about the nesting season, I actually have a cooper's Hawk nest at the top of my eucalyptus tree.

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Sarah Wauters: Right now that's what did we learn entering June she's still nothing to chicks up there, right now, so she actually started at the end of March, so she's still.

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Sarah Wauters: messing with her two chicks up top and we don't want people building things out of all we don't want to freeze during a certain period of time now Okay, it looks like we've got Steve.

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Sarah Wauters: Please go ahead.

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Sarah Wauters: yeah just addressing the fact here seems that a.

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Sarah Wauters: Law broken every should actually all that it went ahead and hired a private tree trimmer to.

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Sarah Wauters: publicly owned tree when they should have contacted see forest now it's on their land by or.

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Sarah Wauters: private property, it was.

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Sarah Wauters: I thought it was a port number moon yeah I mean listen, we do have definitely there are trees that are that are being massacred on a regular basis in the parkway but.

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Sarah Wauters: There isn't really an enforcement mechanism for us to utilize unfortunately so Okay, so I think they have a better hand up for Okay, Kate what I use the hand up reaction, I was just looking for where you click on reactions.

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Sarah Wauters: reactions that.

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Sarah Wauters: Oh, I know.

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Sarah Wauters: That was called reactions I don't know how I missed that yeah um after two years of doing i'm well, thank you Isabel Thank you Sarah, I just wanted to say.

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Sarah Wauters: If you get that together and ELENA will send that out, we have a great 550 people on the email list, and I think that's super important excellent Okay, thank you right okay um well I would we're 10 minutes over, so I think we should adjourn but um, let me just refer to the.

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Sarah Wauters: i've got we weren't unable to get to old business the a&b permit issue which I don't know very much about so I was going to rely on you for that as well, and then the tree trimming practices we've just actually fold that into our our discussion to certain degree.

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Sarah Wauters: So it, with your permission, everyone unless there's any last comments, I think we should adjourn and then determine our next board meeting to be.

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Sarah Wauters: June 30 2022 unless anyone has a problem with that.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, we know we know meeting.

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Sarah Wauters: It looks like that's what's happened we can you change that on the yeah.

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Sarah Wauters: I well, I think I think that's actually the fifth Friday so maybe you're saving last Friday okay why I would I would love it if we could yeah we could either decide, it was the fourth Friday or the last Friday um that's the fifth Monday the 30th.

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Sarah Wauters: I believe, so I might be the wrong actually it's Thursday my right oh man.

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Sarah Wauters: that's funny okay so maybe we move it earlier, I am outing for it, this is the fourth Friday of June right and i'm unfortunately out of town on the 24th so.

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Sarah Wauters: I think yeah let's 17 on the 17th of June, yes.

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Sarah Wauters: Yes, yep let's do that.

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Sarah Wauters: Okay, very yeah we'll leave it at 1130 since I think everyone has blocked that off.

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Sarah Wauters: We actually didn't there's a woman, he wants to become an active heather Roberts she's a doctor lives and and the East Venice.

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Sarah Wauters: And she's very interested in becoming active she was unable to make it today, but I think she'll be able to make it to this, and she is she's gonna block your calendar too so yeah give me everybody okay thanks everybody, yes, thank you really good meeting have a great day thanks everybody.

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Sarah Wauters: Thanks for coming work Steve already.

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Sarah Wauters: Final bye okay.