WEBVTT 1 00:00:45.480 --> 00:00:45.930 testing. 2 00:00:46.950 --> 00:00:48.360 jim murez: I wonder what you think i've worked. 3 00:00:57.270 --> 00:00:57.960 jim murez: Now fixed it. 4 00:01:06.210 --> 00:01:07.530 jim murez: Nick are you part of the committee. 5 00:01:11.460 --> 00:01:13.770 jim murez: raise your hand if you're part of the committee. 6 00:01:36.930 --> 00:01:40.170 jim murez: agents are evening, good evening, can you hear me testing 123. 7 00:01:40.710 --> 00:01:42.000 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): i'm the representative for. 8 00:01:42.570 --> 00:01:43.200 The project. 9 00:01:44.580 --> 00:01:45.360 jim murez: Now, can I hear you. 10 00:01:47.220 --> 00:01:47.670 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): can hear me. 11 00:01:47.700 --> 00:01:48.630 jim murez: say something again. 12 00:01:49.620 --> 00:01:50.160 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Can you hear me. 13 00:01:50.820 --> 00:01:51.150 Michael Jensen: hey. 14 00:01:51.630 --> 00:01:53.430 jim murez: I can't hear anything hold on. 15 00:02:03.600 --> 00:02:04.740 jim murez: Now, can I hear anything. 16 00:02:06.690 --> 00:02:07.350 Michael Jensen: I can hear you. 17 00:02:07.710 --> 00:02:14.730 jim murez: Okay, now I can hear you good so it's working, let me make you co host, let me first remember to share screen settings. 18 00:02:18.990 --> 00:02:20.010 jim murez: Are you doing the kill. 19 00:02:21.900 --> 00:02:22.530 Michael Jensen: i'm living. 20 00:02:24.180 --> 00:02:25.410 jim murez: A lot going on man. 21 00:02:32.160 --> 00:02:33.720 jim murez: Is net part of the committee. 22 00:02:34.380 --> 00:02:35.580 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): And not sorry pretty. 23 00:02:36.210 --> 00:02:37.020 jim murez: All right, let me. 24 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:37.380 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Let me. 25 00:02:37.410 --> 00:02:38.790 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): REACH in there i'll be apparently. 26 00:02:40.170 --> 00:02:41.370 jim murez: I can, I can. 27 00:02:42.750 --> 00:02:43.830 jim murez: See how do I do. 28 00:03:13.200 --> 00:03:13.740 jim murez: There we go. 29 00:03:15.060 --> 00:03:18.480 jim murez: Mr Barry where those documents at all helpful. 30 00:03:19.440 --> 00:03:21.150 barrycassilly: um I haven't looked at them. 31 00:03:21.630 --> 00:03:23.100 barrycassilly: Well, I have coven. 32 00:03:23.460 --> 00:03:25.620 jim murez: At them Oh, my goodness, how did you get that. 33 00:03:25.890 --> 00:03:26.580 barrycassilly: I have no clue. 34 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:29.910 jim murez: Too much messing around out there in the world that's all. 35 00:03:30.450 --> 00:03:31.080 barrycassilly: I have right. 36 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:35.970 jim murez: young's it's you youngsters that go bar hopping I know all about guys. 37 00:03:39.060 --> 00:03:41.400 Michael Jensen: Okay, very the youngster. 38 00:03:43.770 --> 00:03:46.140 jim murez: A youngster compared to me these days. 39 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:56.280 barrycassilly: So matt called me a little bit ago. 40 00:03:57.780 --> 00:03:59.310 barrycassilly: he's got a client coming in. 41 00:04:00.450 --> 00:04:04.020 barrycassilly: He asked not to be here unless we needed him. 42 00:04:08.790 --> 00:04:13.290 barrycassilly: I discussed stuff with him, he has things he wants me to relay when appropriate. 43 00:04:14.760 --> 00:04:15.210 Michael Jensen: Okay. 44 00:04:16.290 --> 00:04:25.170 Michael Jensen: Well, I guess, hopefully we won't need them, I don't know I haven't really gotten any three people responded to my. 45 00:04:26.220 --> 00:04:29.040 Michael Jensen: Core on the email or my email about the meeting. 46 00:04:31.050 --> 00:04:32.580 Michael Jensen: Chris saying he couldn't make it. 47 00:04:34.080 --> 00:04:34.800 Michael Jensen: So. 48 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:41.430 Michael Jensen: fingers crossed. 49 00:04:43.260 --> 00:04:44.730 barrycassilly: So let's just chill out for a little bit. 50 00:04:46.260 --> 00:04:47.430 jim murez: We haven't had anything on the. 51 00:04:50.280 --> 00:04:53.250 Michael Jensen: Well, I had covered the last time we had a. 52 00:04:54.810 --> 00:05:04.680 Michael Jensen: When when I had to get the Ad come or the agenda stuff to add calm yeah I just completely forgot so that took me that's why that didn't happen. 53 00:05:07.020 --> 00:05:08.580 jim murez: No, no complaints here. 54 00:05:12.810 --> 00:05:13.860 barrycassilly: Everybody in Venice. 55 00:05:14.130 --> 00:05:15.720 jim murez: You guys are doing good don't worry. 56 00:05:24.420 --> 00:05:24.810 barrycassilly: oops. 57 00:05:26.220 --> 00:05:27.810 lauren siegel: Wait so Barry how did you get coven. 58 00:05:28.440 --> 00:05:29.100 barrycassilly: I have no idea. 59 00:05:31.500 --> 00:05:32.880 jim murez: Come on Barry tell us. 60 00:05:32.880 --> 00:05:34.560 Michael Jensen: about high risk behavior. 61 00:05:36.270 --> 00:05:36.840 barrycassilly: Come on. 62 00:05:37.470 --> 00:05:38.730 lauren siegel: How I want to hear more. 63 00:05:40.050 --> 00:05:45.600 barrycassilly: No i'm not going to raves and sleeping with people without condoms that I met an hour and a half before. 64 00:05:46.350 --> 00:05:47.370 barrycassilly: That would that would be more. 65 00:05:47.970 --> 00:05:49.680 lauren siegel: Condoms prevented David. 66 00:05:50.940 --> 00:05:52.320 barrycassilly: I know they prevent monkeypox. 67 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:58.110 lauren siegel: Currently selling men on men sex provide it gives you monkeypox. 68 00:05:58.470 --> 00:05:58.980 barrycassilly: It does. 69 00:05:59.340 --> 00:06:00.570 lauren siegel: Yes, that's what I just read. 70 00:06:01.140 --> 00:06:02.130 jim murez: Wait say that again. 71 00:06:02.550 --> 00:06:08.790 lauren siegel: So there are nine cases in five states of monkey pox and they're all men who've had sex with men. 72 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:09.930 jim murez: Oh interesting. 73 00:06:10.320 --> 00:06:13.080 lauren siegel: So it is it's an article I don't represent it a. 74 00:06:13.140 --> 00:06:15.240 jim murez: Good day did they have sex with monkeys to. 75 00:06:20.070 --> 00:06:22.530 Michael Jensen: Again okay all joking aside do we have a quorum yet. 76 00:06:23.190 --> 00:06:25.590 barrycassilly: No, we got three people her. 77 00:06:28.830 --> 00:06:44.040 Michael Jensen: mind was general, by the way, Jim I think that there's an issue with the lists or distribution list when he when I email l upc at Venice and si.org I do not believe that everyone gets an email on the committee. 78 00:06:44.880 --> 00:06:46.050 jim murez: it's totally possible. 79 00:06:48.840 --> 00:06:55.860 jim murez: So the first question I ask is is have you let vicki know. 80 00:06:57.090 --> 00:06:57.720 Michael Jensen: Now. 81 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:04.380 jim murez: Well she's communications and i'm sure that she would be more than happy to try and help. 82 00:07:05.880 --> 00:07:06.300 barrycassilly: But. 83 00:07:06.690 --> 00:07:07.740 jim murez: If she's unable to. 84 00:07:07.740 --> 00:07:09.390 do anything corinthian. 85 00:07:10.710 --> 00:07:16.590 jim murez: If she's unable to do anything, then I would definitely get back to me, and I would be happy to. 86 00:07:17.970 --> 00:07:19.350 jim murez: fix whatever the problem is. 87 00:07:20.310 --> 00:07:22.800 lauren siegel: Okay, I want to look for in in. 88 00:07:23.010 --> 00:07:26.340 barrycassilly: yeah does anybody have more news just phone number. 89 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:31.860 jim murez: No, but she was on a meeting earlier, so I know that she does indeed. 90 00:07:34.170 --> 00:07:36.960 jim murez: Well, I don't know, maybe, maybe she's got something going on now. 91 00:07:36.990 --> 00:07:38.130 Michael Jensen: But she was in our. 92 00:07:38.190 --> 00:07:39.780 Michael Jensen: she's got a case you knows there's one. 93 00:07:40.290 --> 00:07:40.710 Okay. 94 00:07:41.880 --> 00:07:43.290 jim murez: Maybe reach out to her real quick. 95 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:45.840 barrycassilly: Oh sorry sorry just on the phone number. 96 00:07:46.410 --> 00:07:49.050 jim murez: No Nick i'm going to put your hand down for now. 97 00:07:51.270 --> 00:07:51.900 jim murez: How do I do. 98 00:07:56.580 --> 00:07:58.980 barrycassilly: And then there's um who Chris. 99 00:08:01.080 --> 00:08:01.800 lauren siegel: and Andrew. 100 00:08:02.100 --> 00:08:02.910 barrycassilly: Andrew guess. 101 00:08:03.990 --> 00:08:05.070 barrycassilly: Who has his phone number. 102 00:08:10.440 --> 00:08:12.120 barrycassilly: i'll see if I do instead of asking everybody. 103 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:12.390 jim murez: else. 104 00:08:12.780 --> 00:08:14.160 Michael Jensen: she's here she's coming. 105 00:08:18.690 --> 00:08:20.370 barrycassilly: I did not have enders phone number. 106 00:08:22.320 --> 00:08:23.490 jim murez: Will you have what five. 107 00:08:23.490 --> 00:08:25.860 jim murez: People now that is that a core Am I think that's a quorum. 108 00:08:25.980 --> 00:08:27.000 barrycassilly: it's a quorum yes. 109 00:08:27.090 --> 00:08:27.960 Michael Jensen: Okay, we have a quorum. 110 00:08:29.610 --> 00:08:34.050 jim murez: So who who would you like to have be a Co host and then i'll step out. 111 00:08:36.750 --> 00:08:38.760 Michael Jensen: Who is the most comfortable with zoom. 112 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:40.170 Call God. 113 00:08:41.310 --> 00:08:43.140 Michael Jensen: Currently, I don't worry i'll ask you. 114 00:08:44.850 --> 00:08:45.840 Michael Jensen: I won't ask you rather. 115 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:46.740 barrycassilly: I know I got it. 116 00:08:47.070 --> 00:08:53.610 jim murez: Well don't worry about it, then, if nobody wants to do it then i'll just i'll be in the other room at making dinner, but if something. 117 00:08:54.060 --> 00:08:55.140 Michael Jensen: happens i'll text you. 118 00:08:55.290 --> 00:08:58.740 jim murez: yeah call me or text me whatever, but you should have. 119 00:08:58.890 --> 00:09:04.920 jim murez: You should have the ability, if anybody else comes in, to promote them to panelists and do all of that stuff because your co host already. 120 00:09:05.700 --> 00:09:07.320 jim murez: Great alright bye for now. 121 00:09:09.540 --> 00:09:11.430 Michael Jensen: Okay, I guess i'll start my. 122 00:09:17.760 --> 00:09:21.000 Michael Jensen: All right, i'm just going to. 123 00:09:22.140 --> 00:09:25.140 Michael Jensen: Get the agenda here and we'll start in a. 124 00:09:26.580 --> 00:09:27.060 Michael Jensen: minute. 125 00:09:41.670 --> 00:09:43.170 Michael Jensen: share the screen. 126 00:09:48.810 --> 00:09:49.980 Michael Jensen: Okay. 127 00:09:53.190 --> 00:09:54.750 Michael Jensen: All right, everybody see that. 128 00:09:55.560 --> 00:09:57.120 corinne Baginski: dope great. 129 00:09:59.370 --> 00:10:00.420 Michael Jensen: Money can't buy. 130 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:05.550 Michael Jensen: me to do this before we're alive, but. 131 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:10.830 Michael Jensen: Alright, so scrolling down to. 132 00:10:12.300 --> 00:10:17.160 Michael Jensen: called order, it is 7:06pm I am calling the meeting to order. 133 00:10:18.390 --> 00:10:20.070 Michael Jensen: roll call. 134 00:10:21.690 --> 00:10:22.410 Michael Jensen: curren. 135 00:10:23.160 --> 00:10:23.430 here. 136 00:10:24.450 --> 00:10:24.900 Michael Jensen: Barry. 137 00:10:25.350 --> 00:10:25.680 here. 138 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:30.450 Michael Jensen: Andrew not here, I don't think. 139 00:10:32.040 --> 00:10:37.890 Michael Jensen: don't see anyone in the I have to keep the list of attendees up here. 140 00:10:40.620 --> 00:10:42.570 Michael Jensen: You know, we have kaylee and okay. 141 00:10:44.430 --> 00:10:45.000 Michael Jensen: lauren. 142 00:10:45.510 --> 00:10:49.680 Michael Jensen: Here matt not here minute. 143 00:10:52.290 --> 00:10:59.490 Michael Jensen: and Chris not here, I am here we have a quorum minutes from April 28. 144 00:11:02.010 --> 00:11:04.740 Michael Jensen: Can I have a motion to approve those. 145 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:06.510 lauren siegel: Yes. 146 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:08.850 barrycassilly: I make a motion to approve and i'll second. 147 00:11:09.870 --> 00:11:10.530 Michael Jensen: All right. 148 00:11:14.430 --> 00:11:15.420 lauren siegel: ask a question. 149 00:11:15.990 --> 00:11:18.690 lauren siegel: Yes, where do we stand on the vacancy. 150 00:11:20.910 --> 00:11:21.300 Michael Jensen: OK. 151 00:11:22.470 --> 00:11:23.160 Michael Jensen: I will. 152 00:11:25.560 --> 00:11:27.240 Michael Jensen: So hold on, let me just get the. 153 00:11:29.610 --> 00:11:32.580 Michael Jensen: votel your anybody object to the Minutes. 154 00:11:33.330 --> 00:11:38.070 Michael Jensen: yeah Okay, so we are 5000. 155 00:11:41.550 --> 00:11:45.060 Michael Jensen: Okay, so where we stand on the. 156 00:11:46.440 --> 00:12:00.210 Michael Jensen: I have emailed I don't know, two or three times to the rules and election committee about putting this on the agenda, and yet to receive a response I submitted my own agenda request. 157 00:12:02.460 --> 00:12:10.500 Michael Jensen: I don't know if it was a week or two ago, so the next the dnc meeting if it's not on there i'm going to. 158 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:18.330 Michael Jensen: knock people just because i've now done it twice to get it on the agenda. 159 00:12:18.450 --> 00:12:19.080 barrycassilly: Technically. 160 00:12:19.170 --> 00:12:21.600 Michael Jensen: supposed to come from the rules and election committee but. 161 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:24.810 Michael Jensen: I don't know. 162 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:25.890 barrycassilly: Oh, what. 163 00:12:25.950 --> 00:12:27.390 lauren siegel: Is the one applicant. 164 00:12:28.590 --> 00:12:32.640 Michael Jensen: there's one applicant so it's it's a perfunctory vote okay yeah. 165 00:12:32.910 --> 00:12:34.620 barrycassilly: And we're outside the. 166 00:12:34.680 --> 00:12:37.110 barrycassilly: The period for throwing your name in the hat. 167 00:12:37.800 --> 00:12:39.870 barrycassilly: it's going to be this person, whoever they are. 168 00:12:40.170 --> 00:12:43.320 barrycassilly: mom this ridiculous, we need that person. 169 00:12:43.890 --> 00:12:52.770 Michael Jensen: I know i'm I I totally agree so declaration of conflicts of interest or ex parte communications. 170 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:03.660 Michael Jensen: i'm guessing you spoke with the applicant and. 171 00:13:05.370 --> 00:13:06.570 Michael Jensen: city official on us. 172 00:13:07.560 --> 00:13:09.420 Mehrnoosh: via the applicant yes. 173 00:13:09.570 --> 00:13:10.950 Michael Jensen: Okay, yes. 174 00:13:11.970 --> 00:13:18.540 Michael Jensen: Oh, is that Andrew I think Andrew might be he's raised his hand hold on a second. 175 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:29.430 Michael Jensen: Andrew I see you i'm just trying to find where the guests APP where are the participant panel one okay. 176 00:13:30.450 --> 00:13:30.960 Michael Jensen: Last. 177 00:13:41.820 --> 00:13:42.390 Michael Jensen: Andrew. 178 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:45.300 Andrew Mika: Oh yeah sorry about that okay. 179 00:13:45.990 --> 00:13:51.570 Michael Jensen: No problem I got you on the 709. 180 00:13:58.980 --> 00:14:07.170 Michael Jensen: Okay, so next meeting, I think, where where we next meeting, we hopefully will have the new member appointed. 181 00:14:10.530 --> 00:14:15.390 Michael Jensen: Oh declaration conflicts of interest sorry that's where we were um anyone else. 182 00:14:20.910 --> 00:14:22.830 Michael Jensen: i've had conversations with. 183 00:14:27.300 --> 00:14:38.370 Michael Jensen: Some people about this, the item 10 which is we're going to preview it tonight, but i've been talking to Jim and I guess Barry as well. 184 00:14:39.060 --> 00:14:39.870 barrycassilly: But I don't want. 185 00:14:39.930 --> 00:14:41.970 Michael Jensen: Very the the checklist. 186 00:14:42.570 --> 00:14:43.170 barrycassilly: Oh yeah. 187 00:14:43.230 --> 00:14:43.980 Michael Jensen: Item number 10. 188 00:14:44.370 --> 00:14:44.880 barrycassilly: Do we have to. 189 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:46.260 barrycassilly: say something about that. 190 00:14:46.740 --> 00:14:49.260 Michael Jensen: Well, I don't know i'm just saying um. 191 00:14:49.530 --> 00:14:58.290 lauren siegel: I had conversations with the applicant for the demand in this case, this agenda, as well as the one that I guess will be on the next agenda. 192 00:14:59.730 --> 00:15:03.840 Michael Jensen: Okay well it's not on tonight so you're talking about 426 yes. 193 00:15:04.800 --> 00:15:07.290 Michael Jensen: And I guess I should really this is yours. 194 00:15:08.460 --> 00:15:12.870 Michael Jensen: Okay cnc report, so we have three cases. 195 00:15:14.820 --> 00:15:18.210 Michael Jensen: One i've already assigned to Andrew. 196 00:15:21.270 --> 00:15:27.300 Michael Jensen: I don't know who's I took a look at my list, and I think Barry you have a bunch of cases. 197 00:15:28.530 --> 00:15:28.890 barrycassilly: Where is. 198 00:15:30.300 --> 00:15:31.230 barrycassilly: where's the list. 199 00:15:32.910 --> 00:15:35.340 Michael Jensen: On the agenda, I sent you a link. 200 00:15:35.340 --> 00:15:35.760 Michael Jensen: to it. 201 00:15:37.470 --> 00:15:43.590 Michael Jensen: So just check it out, and I think we can move a bunch of these through. 202 00:15:45.090 --> 00:15:51.000 Michael Jensen: By going through the staff Board will talk to that talk about that Item number 10 but. 203 00:15:52.380 --> 00:15:59.970 Michael Jensen: But yeah I do want to start like going through this list there's a good I don't know 25 cases. 204 00:16:01.050 --> 00:16:01.650 Michael Jensen: So. 205 00:16:04.680 --> 00:16:15.210 Michael Jensen: But anyway, two of those cases still need to be assigned so I don't know if anyone wants to volunteer for these Andrew, you said you needed some cases, so I mean you can take all three if you want. 206 00:16:15.990 --> 00:16:17.640 Andrew Mika: Any one. 207 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:19.410 corinne Baginski: yeah. 208 00:16:19.980 --> 00:16:23.220 corinne Baginski: Current my my cases or hold. 209 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:38.310 corinne Baginski: Why are they oh man well it's back to the drawing board for some of them, and another one is just the planner basically told me it's it's on hold, they still need information. 210 00:16:39.210 --> 00:16:40.800 Mehrnoosh: helpful okay hold to. 211 00:16:41.610 --> 00:16:43.800 Mehrnoosh: yeah or no response from. 212 00:16:43.860 --> 00:16:47.130 corinne Baginski: A no response yeah the applicant just doesn't respond. 213 00:16:47.130 --> 00:16:47.970 Michael Jensen: So let's. 214 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:51.720 Michael Jensen: Okay, let me, let me rip through that when we get to number 10 we can talk about. 215 00:16:52.920 --> 00:16:56.670 Michael Jensen: What on hold means and whether or not that prohibits us from doing only thing. 216 00:16:58.590 --> 00:17:08.850 Michael Jensen: So on the de minimis case list we've got 420 16 Venice it's a conversion of a REC room to add, you know change to the footprints. 217 00:17:09.030 --> 00:17:13.920 Michael Jensen: Yes, any reaction to passing, that on to the dnc board. 218 00:17:14.370 --> 00:17:19.980 Michael Jensen: No such okay so and i'm Actually, I guess, I have to open. 219 00:17:21.150 --> 00:17:24.750 Michael Jensen: Sorry, I forgot general public comment. 220 00:17:25.080 --> 00:17:26.310 Michael Jensen: Sorry guys i'm a little. 221 00:17:27.420 --> 00:17:29.520 Michael Jensen: Alright i'm going to open it up to public comment. 222 00:17:31.110 --> 00:17:45.570 Michael Jensen: For items, not on the agenda if anyone would like to speak, please raise your hand and I will call on you and i'll give it about 2030 seconds sorry i'm just flustered today I guess. 223 00:17:47.280 --> 00:17:48.270 Michael Jensen: going too fast. 224 00:17:49.050 --> 00:17:50.550 Andrew Mika: it's okay mchale you're doing great. 225 00:17:52.050 --> 00:17:52.500 Michael Jensen: i'm. 226 00:17:52.710 --> 00:17:59.340 Michael Jensen: not seeing any hands up so i'm going to close public comment and resume back to. 227 00:18:00.900 --> 00:18:08.340 Michael Jensen: number eight we don't have any objection so we're going to move these on to the board. 228 00:18:15.120 --> 00:18:23.970 Michael Jensen: Alright cases we only have one tonight 321 brooks Nick Are you the applicant on this or the REP. 229 00:18:25.740 --> 00:18:27.360 Michael Jensen: I guess, I have to talk. 230 00:18:27.900 --> 00:18:29.070 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Yes, Sam Thank you. 231 00:18:29.790 --> 00:18:32.430 Michael Jensen: And I will promote you to panelist. 232 00:18:33.780 --> 00:18:37.230 Michael Jensen: Do you have a presentation, or anything, or do you want me to show the plans. 233 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:41.040 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): All right, hi good evening, can you hear me. 234 00:18:41.580 --> 00:18:45.210 Michael Jensen: yep Nick do you want me to show the plans or do you have a PowerPoint or something. 235 00:18:45.300 --> 00:18:47.490 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): um if I can share them that's a failed it. 236 00:18:48.630 --> 00:18:50.250 Michael Jensen: Short, I just have to stop sharing. 237 00:18:50.610 --> 00:18:52.110 Michael Jensen: So there you go. 238 00:18:53.070 --> 00:19:01.830 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): All right, we'll get started here but good evening, this is Nick leathers from press real estate and i'm here on behalf of our clients. 239 00:19:02.460 --> 00:19:11.940 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Doctors bill in KC o'connell and i'm also joined by the project on project team, including Doug birds and kaylee Ryan from bridge architects. 240 00:19:12.390 --> 00:19:29.520 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): So we just want to thank you all advanced, for your time tonight, but just In short, we have a CDP dash ncaa case and the project is essentially to build a second level to one today existing one story duplex. 241 00:19:30.750 --> 00:19:36.660 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): It also construct a new three car garage and a new pool in the front yard. 242 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:49.500 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): In terms of our outreach so far, we had our zoom meeting about a month ago in April we had one neighbor show up, who was just trying to listen in so. 243 00:19:49.950 --> 00:19:59.640 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): I think we're pretty confident about project and getting support so just want to go through the plans with you, and then we can go through any questions after that. 244 00:20:00.390 --> 00:20:22.710 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): So terms of the site today it's around a 5000 square foot lot it's owned RD 1.5 and allows duplexes so there's currently a duplex that occupies mostly on the back, half of the parcel and then it has vehicle access off valley on indiana court. 245 00:20:24.510 --> 00:20:30.930 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): here's our demolition plan so for the most part the advocate is going to maintain. 246 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:42.960 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Most of the exterior walls on the ground floor so at this time, the calculation is roughly around 62% of those ground floor walls to remain. 247 00:20:43.800 --> 00:20:54.750 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): We do have non conforming side yard setbacks, so we are doing our best to maintain those However, you know when it comes to the roof, we are. 248 00:20:55.380 --> 00:21:07.080 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Removing the entire roof, due to the addition, and so, as you know, the property has been is within the coastal zone, so we are requesting a CDP. 249 00:21:07.500 --> 00:21:29.970 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): To approve that and then our GA is for a reduced passage way so typically you'll need 10 key from the public street for any additional unit on your property, so in this case, we need a 10 foot clearance, whereas today, we only have four feet, based on the existing building. 250 00:21:32.100 --> 00:21:47.580 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): here's our site plan so This shows the entire site plan and project, so, as I mentioned the intent is to build a second level, resulting in a two story duplex and there's a three car garage that will be. 251 00:21:48.540 --> 00:22:04.320 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): constructed as part of the projects, and I do want to point out on this duplex has no parking on site today so we're hoping that this can be a helpful benefit to the neighborhood by adding three non required parking spaces to the home. 252 00:22:05.430 --> 00:22:15.990 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): And the project also features a new pool and spa in the front yard, as well as a new trellis and deck in the front yard. 253 00:22:17.550 --> 00:22:29.310 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): And so, for the most part that project is maintained need to see footprint, as I mentioned, so we do have a roughly four foot side yards on both sides, for the most part. 254 00:22:30.420 --> 00:22:49.470 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): For the front yard setback usually it's a 15 foot from your headset back and the home does have a 50 foot setback and that's being maintained in the proposed projects and for the backyard on set back, we are maintaining these walls today so. 255 00:22:50.700 --> 00:22:53.970 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Those will remain as non legally not conforming. 256 00:22:55.950 --> 00:22:58.950 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): As you go down to your floor plan. 257 00:23:01.560 --> 00:23:03.480 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): So just a closer image. 258 00:23:05.190 --> 00:23:16.620 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): As I mentioned, we have the parking spaces, so the duplex was built in around early 1910 1908 so obviously at that time there's required parking. 259 00:23:17.340 --> 00:23:34.830 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Based on the credit history that we've come across additionally for the ground floor the layout is going to remain the same, for the most part the home for the duplex you enter in through here with the kitchen family room and then there's two bedrooms downstairs. 260 00:23:35.940 --> 00:23:45.690 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): In terms of this second unit it's going to be accessed off stairs here so it's access stuff the second level, so the stairs go up to here. 261 00:23:46.110 --> 00:24:06.060 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): And this is the second unit that has two bedrooms and the kitchen and bathroom and then the stairs here are only for the other unit, which is the primary unit and so upstairs there's going to be a master bedroom and another bedroom and two other bathrooms. 262 00:24:08.250 --> 00:24:23.070 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): and terms of our roof deck, so this is also part of our project it's an uncovered proof deck for the one primary unit, and we do propose solar panels as well. 263 00:24:24.150 --> 00:24:24.210 In. 264 00:24:25.950 --> 00:24:45.000 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): terms of our elevation so the duplex will have a maximum payout of 30 feet for a pitch true, and so, in terms of these views you're looking at it from the side facing towards the West and then this is if you're facing it from the street and the pool in the front. 265 00:24:46.950 --> 00:24:56.460 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): And this shows the stairs on going up to that second unit here, along with the three car garage in terms of the you know building. 266 00:24:57.300 --> 00:25:14.250 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): aspects are going to be utilizing it's good to hear you utilizing plaster wood siding limestone and various dark bronze to provide some articulation along with custom windows and doors. 267 00:25:15.900 --> 00:25:21.090 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): And so, just to kind of wrap up, I think our team our clients really excited to move forward they've been working. 268 00:25:21.750 --> 00:25:31.980 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): On this with their team for quite a while so we're looking to get your support and just keep moving forward through the process so got any questions, we can respond to them now. 269 00:25:34.800 --> 00:25:36.870 Michael Jensen: i'm earners your staff everything God. 270 00:25:38.070 --> 00:25:39.690 Mehrnoosh: i'm sorry when did you say. 271 00:25:40.290 --> 00:25:42.660 Michael Jensen: You were staff, do you have anything to add. 272 00:25:43.170 --> 00:25:44.610 Mehrnoosh: A actually no. 273 00:25:48.030 --> 00:25:48.540 Michael Jensen: it's okay. 274 00:25:48.990 --> 00:25:50.130 Michael Jensen: i'm gonna open this up to. 275 00:25:50.130 --> 00:25:53.970 Michael Jensen: Public comments and then we'll do board discussion. 276 00:25:55.080 --> 00:25:56.130 Michael Jensen: Public comments. 277 00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:01.560 Michael Jensen: I believe only Eric Moore is a non. 278 00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:03.840 Michael Jensen: Okay Erica. 279 00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:16.800 Erica Moore: Go ahead hey there, I just want to say, I really appreciate that there's a lot of information available, I appreciate that they reached out to the neighborhood. 280 00:26:17.370 --> 00:26:25.830 Erica Moore: And I don't particularly like this design, but it seems like they you know you're showing that they followed mellow and I do appreciate that so. 281 00:26:26.100 --> 00:26:28.320 Erica Moore: It seems like this is a project that should go through. 282 00:26:29.850 --> 00:26:34.410 Michael Jensen: Thanks Okay, thank you Erica didn't even need my stopwatch. 283 00:26:38.850 --> 00:26:42.660 Michael Jensen: Okay board public comment is closed board discussion. 284 00:26:43.590 --> 00:26:47.190 lauren siegel: yeah i'd like to understand just what happened with the existing tenants. 285 00:26:48.330 --> 00:26:50.160 lauren siegel: She had mentioned something about. 286 00:26:51.390 --> 00:26:53.130 lauren siegel: I just like to understand what happened first. 287 00:26:53.730 --> 00:27:08.460 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Oh it's the home, has been owned by our our client for about I believe 10 years they live in the property there's no other tenant was evicted on there's no mellow review or not demolishing and the units. 288 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:12.810 barrycassilly: I have a question. 289 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:15.150 Michael Jensen: Sorry go ahead. 290 00:27:16.110 --> 00:27:29.190 barrycassilly: Are you guys asking for any variances or exceptions or anything that would be outside um what the the specific plan. 291 00:27:30.210 --> 00:27:31.260 barrycassilly: allows on this lot. 292 00:27:31.860 --> 00:27:34.950 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): know we have a dentist sign off for the dentist plan. 293 00:27:36.210 --> 00:27:38.880 barrycassilly: Wait a minute really why is this not a de minimis project done. 294 00:27:39.210 --> 00:27:42.870 Michael Jensen: Because there's an adjustment so about. 295 00:27:44.730 --> 00:27:44.970 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): That. 296 00:27:45.420 --> 00:27:57.750 Michael Jensen: Can you get into the adjustment and I guess the thing I have two questions and they're sort of related one I understand there's non conforming existing non conforming side yard setbacks and probably very hard. 297 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:08.250 Michael Jensen: When you build a second story, do you have to step it back to meet this the the legal one and, if so, is that done or is that part of the adjustment you're requesting. 298 00:28:09.420 --> 00:28:16.560 Michael Jensen: And then, can you describe the 10 foot halfway and why that's triggered by the duplex. 299 00:28:18.030 --> 00:28:27.660 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): So the first question on Yes, our second floor is step back, so it does comply with the setback for the backpack. 300 00:28:28.230 --> 00:28:29.610 lauren siegel: Can you show us the plans. 301 00:28:30.030 --> 00:28:30.750 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): yeah sorry. 302 00:28:31.980 --> 00:28:37.920 barrycassilly: yeah wait a minute um I wasn't aware of any required second story setback in oakwood. 303 00:28:39.210 --> 00:28:46.680 Michael Jensen: no bearing on a step back it's the second story is built were to the setback, that is required. 304 00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:48.450 corinne Baginski: Right it comes from. 305 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:49.920 barrycassilly: yeah I got it I got it. 306 00:28:51.090 --> 00:28:56.460 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): yeah, so this is our our step back there's a balcony here. 307 00:28:57.270 --> 00:28:57.630 Michael Jensen: got it. 308 00:28:57.690 --> 00:28:59.010 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): The new person. 309 00:28:59.520 --> 00:29:01.860 corinne Baginski: two ways that adjustment request. 310 00:29:02.070 --> 00:29:09.060 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): So the adjustment would be pertaining just to our passage way, so the passage way. 311 00:29:10.470 --> 00:29:16.260 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): has to come from the public street So you see here it's four feet. 312 00:29:17.520 --> 00:29:20.010 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): And this is an existing existing wall. 313 00:29:20.520 --> 00:29:21.870 corinne Baginski: So it's a non conforming. 314 00:29:22.110 --> 00:29:28.650 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): yeah so we're asking for a zoning administrator adjustment to allow for fee in lieu of 10 feet. 315 00:29:29.190 --> 00:29:31.800 corinne Baginski: Well you're not you're not demolishing that. 316 00:29:31.860 --> 00:29:33.540 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Existing wall so yeah. 317 00:29:33.690 --> 00:29:35.370 corinne Baginski: waivers yea. 318 00:29:36.120 --> 00:29:46.440 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): It came up from our dentists planner so we chose to include it to be safe, but we haven't you haven't been told, otherwise that we don't need it. 319 00:29:46.470 --> 00:29:48.450 Michael Jensen: So and it's an existing duplex. 320 00:29:48.450 --> 00:29:49.590 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Right yes. 321 00:29:49.860 --> 00:29:52.680 barrycassilly: yeah wait a minute so who's this plan or who made that call. 322 00:29:53.430 --> 00:29:54.120 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): IRA ground. 323 00:29:55.230 --> 00:30:02.790 barrycassilly: um okay uh i'd be interested to see where he found that in any like code section. 324 00:30:03.210 --> 00:30:09.600 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): it's a um yeah i'll i'm happy to send it after the meeting it's it's. 325 00:30:13.170 --> 00:30:15.810 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): In general yeah I think the general coach. 326 00:30:17.100 --> 00:30:17.880 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): This regarding. 327 00:30:19.530 --> 00:30:25.110 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): You know if there's more than one unit on a property, there has to be a 10 foot clear passage way. 328 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:28.380 Michael Jensen: That that's on either side. 329 00:30:28.800 --> 00:30:30.960 barrycassilly: No, no, wait a minute that doesn't apply to Venice. 330 00:30:31.020 --> 00:30:33.750 lauren siegel: I thought this between buildings, not if it's one building. 331 00:30:34.380 --> 00:30:40.980 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): that's that it is there is, if you have a secondary ability, there has to be a template separation. 332 00:30:41.220 --> 00:30:41.580 lauren siegel: Right. 333 00:30:41.670 --> 00:30:44.850 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): And there's also a 10th that passage way requirement. 334 00:30:45.150 --> 00:30:52.590 barrycassilly: now hold on a second what, what does the specific plan say about that this because we have substandard lots that are narrow earth and. 335 00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:56.250 barrycassilly: Los Angeles, a 10 foot setback. 336 00:30:57.150 --> 00:31:01.440 Michael Jensen: require that you said it was tall point 21 you don't Do you remember the subsection. 337 00:31:02.790 --> 00:31:05.790 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Sure, let me turn look if you can give me one second. 338 00:31:07.650 --> 00:31:11.190 Mehrnoosh: bag, is for two stories is three stories and you got a good 12 foot. 339 00:31:11.850 --> 00:31:13.440 barrycassilly: But this is an llc. 340 00:31:14.550 --> 00:31:19.590 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): So if it's not mentioned in the business plan and llc does kick into. 341 00:31:20.340 --> 00:31:24.840 barrycassilly: But it is mentioned in the specific plan your setbacks are clearly defined. 342 00:31:25.620 --> 00:31:29.940 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Well, there are setbacks and passageways are different and yeah. 343 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:30.660 Mehrnoosh: passage way. 344 00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:39.930 Michael Jensen: And also, would be the Venice specific plan can't lower the floor, I can only raise it. 345 00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:41.580 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): So so. 346 00:31:42.030 --> 00:31:42.690 Michael Jensen: He shows up. 347 00:31:43.170 --> 00:31:43.860 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Here again. 348 00:31:44.100 --> 00:31:45.900 barrycassilly: Oh that's not my understanding. 349 00:31:46.230 --> 00:31:48.570 corinne Baginski: there's a back alley to these properties there. 350 00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:49.350 yeah. 351 00:31:51.690 --> 00:31:52.770 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): So it says. 352 00:31:54.870 --> 00:31:58.290 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): it's 1221 on see to. 353 00:31:59.010 --> 00:31:59.700 barrycassilly: uh huh. 354 00:31:59.910 --> 00:32:01.770 Michael Jensen: Oh Tony one see to. 355 00:32:02.100 --> 00:32:02.820 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): A baby. 356 00:32:03.510 --> 00:32:04.890 barrycassilly: will slow down. 357 00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:09.330 barrycassilly: I got it 1221 all right, let me screenshots up. 358 00:32:10.830 --> 00:32:11.730 Michael Jensen: See. 359 00:32:13.350 --> 00:32:14.220 Michael Jensen: 21 see. 360 00:32:17.010 --> 00:32:18.240 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Let me if I go. 361 00:32:20.550 --> 00:32:22.500 Michael Jensen: that's commercial and industrial. 362 00:32:22.590 --> 00:32:23.190 lauren siegel: That said, are. 363 00:32:23.430 --> 00:32:24.720 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): You are you. 364 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.150 lauren siegel: Are who are you and are zones. 365 00:32:33.210 --> 00:32:35.190 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Except so we're already. 366 00:32:37.650 --> 00:32:39.000 Michael Jensen: O B, C. 367 00:32:40.530 --> 00:32:41.700 barrycassilly: or D on here. 368 00:32:42.120 --> 00:32:44.190 lauren siegel: Right are who are you and. 369 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:46.140 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): It says, except. 370 00:32:50.250 --> 00:32:50.790 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): So. 371 00:32:50.910 --> 00:32:56.430 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): If you're in yeah you don't need this but we're not we're RD so. 372 00:32:59.130 --> 00:33:00.330 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Anyway, I think. 373 00:33:00.390 --> 00:33:04.350 barrycassilly: Wait now let's hold on for a second, this is a really strange call never heard of before. 374 00:33:07.320 --> 00:33:16.620 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): yeah it's as you're you're you know, working with the dentist planner and he said it's a fairly fairly common requests and benefits to ask for this adjustment. 375 00:33:17.040 --> 00:33:18.990 barrycassilly: i've never heard of it, oh your adjustment. 376 00:33:19.350 --> 00:33:20.160 Mehrnoosh: Will will. 377 00:33:20.250 --> 00:33:23.310 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Or the adjustment for a passage way reduction. 378 00:33:23.790 --> 00:33:36.210 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): There are a lot of older buildings and Venice that don't comply with this so when we do additions I think sometimes these you know laws come into play during plan check, so we just wanted to cover our bases. 379 00:33:37.620 --> 00:33:41.190 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): And so the best planner you know advice as to. 380 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:43.350 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): You know, ask for. 381 00:33:44.700 --> 00:33:48.180 corinne Baginski: The access to that Nice is in the back right. 382 00:33:48.300 --> 00:33:55.290 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): yeah we we met with building and safety to try them to allow that, but it has to be from the public street in front. 383 00:33:55.770 --> 00:33:59.280 Mehrnoosh: is permitted for fire access, and you know. 384 00:34:00.600 --> 00:34:05.430 Mehrnoosh: problems that you know people try to get into get help it's not really is. 385 00:34:05.790 --> 00:34:06.450 barrycassilly: yeah no. 386 00:34:07.560 --> 00:34:09.540 barrycassilly: i'm not no setbacks in Los Angeles. 387 00:34:09.540 --> 00:34:19.410 barrycassilly: For put in place for the fire department, the fire department after the setbacks we're putting the fire department later to Claire that they needed them for safety and access. 388 00:34:20.040 --> 00:34:22.140 Mehrnoosh: Safety is now for setbacks and so on. 389 00:34:22.980 --> 00:34:40.350 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): yeah well, but I think we can make the findings, because we do have the alley access, so if there was an emergency, they do have a way out that way and if it were just a four foot side yard, if you know, maybe a bit trickier, but I think. 390 00:34:41.910 --> 00:34:44.700 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Planning felt comfortable with us applying for that. 391 00:34:45.750 --> 00:34:49.620 barrycassilly: yeah okay that's great i'm just i'm gonna look into it a little bit more later because. 392 00:34:49.980 --> 00:34:51.810 barrycassilly: You know honestly in Venice if you. 393 00:34:51.810 --> 00:34:53.670 barrycassilly: have to do a 10 foot passageway. 394 00:34:53.940 --> 00:34:55.410 corinne Baginski: From that kills a project. 395 00:34:56.100 --> 00:34:59.130 barrycassilly: Like it it's a huge disincentive. 396 00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:01.590 barrycassilly: Building multiple units. 397 00:35:02.070 --> 00:35:07.920 Michael Jensen: But the problem was you know you just put the workaround is you put the entrance and fraud but. 398 00:35:08.010 --> 00:35:09.000 Mehrnoosh: yeah that's. 399 00:35:09.660 --> 00:35:15.900 barrycassilly: Not in the future if we get some of our density allowances back, and we can build small apartment. 400 00:35:15.900 --> 00:35:18.600 barrycassilly: Buildings again you're not going to be able to do that. 401 00:35:19.170 --> 00:35:30.660 corinne Baginski: But the parking situation being in the back alley it doesn't make any sense, do you know what I mean Michael is like having the access of a duplex from the front. 402 00:35:32.190 --> 00:35:38.100 corinne Baginski: And having a parking in the back it just gives more incentive to park on the street, I mean that's how I react. 403 00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:49.500 Michael Jensen: yeah I mean this this role just contemplates one type of duplex, which is the two two units next to each other with two doors on a porch like it's. 404 00:35:50.850 --> 00:35:52.200 Michael Jensen: it's antiquated. 405 00:35:52.710 --> 00:35:53.820 barrycassilly: How, why does this lot. 406 00:35:55.230 --> 00:35:56.370 corinne Baginski: We already. 407 00:35:59.340 --> 00:36:02.010 barrycassilly: Know that's substandard in Los Angeles okay. 408 00:36:03.090 --> 00:36:11.070 barrycassilly: This is yeah well, you have a if you need an adjustment, you have a very clear sustainable argument for it obviously i'm. 409 00:36:11.340 --> 00:36:12.360 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Okay, I like to hear that. 410 00:36:15.930 --> 00:36:17.970 Andrew Mika: Are there any other variances that were. 411 00:36:18.150 --> 00:36:19.080 requested decide. 412 00:36:20.130 --> 00:36:21.480 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): it's not just the. 413 00:36:21.540 --> 00:36:22.410 Andrew Mika: Okay, great. 414 00:36:22.500 --> 00:36:23.820 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): This way in this CDP. 415 00:36:25.500 --> 00:36:26.220 Andrew Mika: fantastic. 416 00:36:27.330 --> 00:36:31.350 Michael Jensen: Okay, so do we want to make some emotional service presented. 417 00:36:31.500 --> 00:36:39.420 Michael Jensen: The only question is whether we want to make any supporting factual findings for the adjustments, which is a three pronged. 418 00:36:42.510 --> 00:36:44.220 Michael Jensen: You know there's three factors. 419 00:36:45.180 --> 00:36:51.060 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): If you guys want to refer to my findings I didn't have those in there, so i'm really just. 420 00:36:51.900 --> 00:36:53.550 Michael Jensen: Do I have those findings. 421 00:36:54.810 --> 00:36:55.590 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): sharing my screen. 422 00:37:02.790 --> 00:37:04.080 Michael Jensen: I don't think I have the findings. 423 00:37:05.940 --> 00:37:09.720 Michael Jensen: If you want to pull them up, I guess, we can just give a quick work seeing. 424 00:37:16.830 --> 00:37:19.590 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): I think we were just I think the main point was that. 425 00:37:21.510 --> 00:37:23.190 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): We have alley access. 426 00:37:25.140 --> 00:37:25.530 corinne Baginski: Oh. 427 00:37:31.980 --> 00:37:35.700 Michael Jensen: And the existing doors to the duplex or on the side of the building right. 428 00:37:36.390 --> 00:37:38.430 Michael Jensen: Correct so it already. 429 00:37:39.660 --> 00:37:44.610 Michael Jensen: I mean its existing construct is non conforming so. 430 00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:54.510 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): yeah and I think the point is that we're not going to be impacted further impacting any properties we're just going to maintain existing conditions so. 431 00:37:57.510 --> 00:37:58.290 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): We also. 432 00:37:58.500 --> 00:38:00.540 Michael Jensen: Can you scroll down just to the. 433 00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:36.810 Michael Jensen: Okay. 434 00:38:37.950 --> 00:38:40.800 Michael Jensen: Has everyone had a chance to read those yep. 435 00:38:43.980 --> 00:38:44.070 Michael Jensen: i'm. 436 00:38:44.370 --> 00:38:46.980 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): gonna stop my screen share. 437 00:38:56.490 --> 00:38:59.970 Michael Jensen: yeah that's fine well and it does anyone have emotion. 438 00:39:02.070 --> 00:39:04.050 barrycassilly: Other than approving the project is presented. 439 00:39:04.500 --> 00:39:04.770 yeah. 440 00:39:05.910 --> 00:39:07.110 Michael Jensen: Okay, my only. 441 00:39:08.580 --> 00:39:13.080 Michael Jensen: point was you know, do we want to incorporate findings for the va. 442 00:39:14.970 --> 00:39:17.700 barrycassilly: Can we just incorporate them, the whole thing. 443 00:39:17.940 --> 00:39:21.060 Michael Jensen: We certainly can incorporate the proposed findings. 444 00:39:21.240 --> 00:39:24.930 barrycassilly: Okay, look I would make a motion to add that, to the motion. 445 00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:28.470 Andrew Mika: Second. 446 00:39:29.640 --> 00:39:34.680 Michael Jensen: Okay, so can I get you to read your mode, so you would like to. 447 00:39:35.730 --> 00:39:39.510 Michael Jensen: approve the project as presented and. 448 00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:45.240 barrycassilly: Well, I don't I don't have the text in front of me anymore. 449 00:39:45.780 --> 00:39:46.770 Michael Jensen: No, you can. 450 00:39:48.180 --> 00:39:50.760 Michael Jensen: incorporate those. 451 00:39:51.900 --> 00:39:52.470 barrycassilly: findings. 452 00:39:52.680 --> 00:39:54.540 Michael Jensen: Nick can you email me those findings. 453 00:39:54.660 --> 00:39:55.800 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): yeah worse. 454 00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:10.590 barrycassilly: I guess, we would say something like mean feel free to help me out here anybody um that we would approve the project as presented and support the applicants findings. 455 00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:17.520 barrycassilly: In asking to maintain the existing forefoot side yard setback. 456 00:40:18.750 --> 00:40:19.920 corinne Baginski: Non conforming yeah. 457 00:40:21.030 --> 00:40:24.060 corinne Baginski: Excuse me non conforming as existing. 458 00:40:24.600 --> 00:40:27.780 barrycassilly: yeah but we don't have says not conform, we can okay let's say that. 459 00:40:28.020 --> 00:40:31.200 corinne Baginski: Was there if they don't want to DEMO it that's right. 460 00:40:32.850 --> 00:40:33.300 barrycassilly: yeah. 461 00:40:33.810 --> 00:40:43.200 barrycassilly: I think it's important for us to stipulate that its existing don't want to go into a lot of stuff about how it's consistent with the neighborhood character, but it clearly is. 462 00:40:44.670 --> 00:40:45.150 Andrew Mika: Very. 463 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:51.840 Michael Jensen: Okay, so. 464 00:40:52.620 --> 00:41:08.310 Michael Jensen: We decided PC rhonda and i'm going to read i'm going to read it before you second i'll upc recommends approval, the project has presented and support applicants proposed findings relating to the va to maintain existing side yard setbacks. 465 00:41:14.130 --> 00:41:19.440 Michael Jensen: Okay, can I get a roll call vote on so that's Barry. 466 00:41:21.090 --> 00:41:22.620 Michael Jensen: and Andrew. 467 00:41:25.980 --> 00:41:29.010 Michael Jensen: And roll call votes. 468 00:41:33.270 --> 00:41:36.030 Michael Jensen: i'm just gonna go in order of the people I see here Barry. 469 00:41:36.600 --> 00:41:36.990 Yes. 470 00:41:38.190 --> 00:41:39.960 Michael Jensen: Excuse me lauren. 471 00:41:40.530 --> 00:41:41.100 Yes. 472 00:41:42.750 --> 00:41:43.350 corinne Baginski: Yes. 473 00:41:44.730 --> 00:41:45.030 Michael Jensen: or no. 474 00:41:45.630 --> 00:41:46.080 Yes. 475 00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:48.360 Michael Jensen: Andrew. 476 00:41:49.770 --> 00:41:50.250 Andrew Mika: Yes. 477 00:41:51.450 --> 00:42:04.320 Michael Jensen: that's five I make six motion carries 60000 Nick you'll be on the June dnc board meeting. 478 00:42:05.520 --> 00:42:07.290 Michael Jensen: Potentially on consent. 479 00:42:07.860 --> 00:42:10.440 Michael Jensen: I would be just on standby in case someone pulls it. 480 00:42:11.010 --> 00:42:13.260 Nick Leathers (Crest - Item 9): Okay, thank you, Michael thanks everyone. 481 00:42:13.530 --> 00:42:14.970 Michael Jensen: Thank you have a good night. 482 00:42:17.340 --> 00:42:20.730 Michael Jensen: Okay, moving right on here. 483 00:42:23.610 --> 00:42:33.930 Michael Jensen: The discussion of new one pack staff report template did everyone have a chance to look at the document I sent out. 484 00:42:36.330 --> 00:42:39.660 Michael Jensen: This draft stock then i'm going to pull it up right now so everyone can. 485 00:42:39.930 --> 00:42:40.230 yeah. 486 00:42:41.550 --> 00:42:48.030 Michael Jensen: So we can all follow along here and i'm going to explain how it's how it's used so. 487 00:42:53.760 --> 00:43:01.500 Michael Jensen: Okay, so you may recall, we have been writing staff reports or using a template filling in info. 488 00:43:03.570 --> 00:43:07.200 Michael Jensen: To make this process, I wanted to do two things one. 489 00:43:08.910 --> 00:43:23.190 Michael Jensen: make it faster to go through and check requirements and also create some uniformity and how this is presented to the board and sort of make it, you know, because not everyone is a reader. 490 00:43:24.630 --> 00:43:41.520 Michael Jensen: I sort of want a one sheet that gives every all of the information and then what follows is the staff report findings that essentially go through all of the specific find requirements and then. 491 00:43:43.110 --> 00:43:54.600 Michael Jensen: This operates as a checklist as you're reviewing projects lines up with all the sections in this specific plan, a lot of the text is verbatim, although I would like to. 492 00:43:55.650 --> 00:44:04.530 Michael Jensen: sort of shorten it were possible, because you'll see there are sections where the language is very long but i've attempted to abbreviate where possible. 493 00:44:05.370 --> 00:44:20.910 Michael Jensen: stuff, for instance in the required parking but the way that I see this being used is when you get a project, regardless of the stage it's at in terms of you know we've heard a lot of cases that are on hold. 494 00:44:22.470 --> 00:44:24.360 Michael Jensen: Especially stuff that is like. 495 00:44:25.380 --> 00:44:33.150 Michael Jensen: tagged as a DM so, but because the city has now reversed the order. 496 00:44:34.770 --> 00:44:42.240 Michael Jensen: Of when they make that determination it sort of sits in purgatory until the end, and then we get. 497 00:44:43.350 --> 00:44:56.610 Michael Jensen: You know, then, then they say oh it's it's a de minimis and then the relevant to us at that point, so what I would like to do is use this checklist to basically develop that record of whether or not it complies with our plan. 498 00:44:58.590 --> 00:45:03.330 Michael Jensen: and get that through our committee, regardless of where the city is at. 499 00:45:05.730 --> 00:45:06.660 Michael Jensen: and 500 00:45:08.220 --> 00:45:15.000 Michael Jensen: I think it'll be a good practice to just use this and go through plans, I did it as a. 501 00:45:18.660 --> 00:45:28.290 Michael Jensen: As just like an experiment just on the for 26 minutes, which was the vso we had tonight when I can't find. 502 00:45:30.090 --> 00:45:33.330 Michael Jensen: On hold on a second i'll pull up the version, so you can see. 503 00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:36.720 Michael Jensen: How I handle that. 504 00:45:45.270 --> 00:45:48.030 Michael Jensen: Okay, so let's stop sharing. 505 00:45:49.260 --> 00:45:53.250 Michael Jensen: Share does anyone have any questions before I embark on this. 506 00:45:55.980 --> 00:45:56.400 barrycassilly: Little bar. 507 00:45:57.990 --> 00:45:59.340 Mehrnoosh: I haven't seen this before. 508 00:45:59.970 --> 00:46:06.570 Michael Jensen: i'm going to I will email you a copy of one thing you will have to do is for everyone who uses word. 509 00:46:08.340 --> 00:46:09.210 Michael Jensen: hold on a second. 510 00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:28.530 Michael Jensen: for everyone who uses word, there is something called there's a developer tab right here that you'll well you'll discover that that's how you have to check in these boxes, you can just put in access here. 511 00:46:30.210 --> 00:46:39.960 Michael Jensen: But if you need help with that, let me know and i'll get you set up on this weird developer tab because it's not it's not in the standard. 512 00:46:40.980 --> 00:46:43.170 Michael Jensen: word, you have to like add it in manually. 513 00:46:45.330 --> 00:47:03.240 Michael Jensen: But so you go through this is all the same information, we would be entering and I put the sub area there one, so that you know which area you're dealing with so that below when we get to the individual so very checklists you delete all of the other ones and. 514 00:47:06.510 --> 00:47:13.290 Michael Jensen: And then you only have one to do with project type you know this is sort of going to dictate what you. 515 00:47:16.980 --> 00:47:18.540 Andrew Mika: celebrate it is. 516 00:47:19.680 --> 00:47:25.080 barrycassilly: When you say you would delete the others um can you show us how that would happen below. 517 00:47:25.710 --> 00:47:27.960 Michael Jensen: Okay, yes, so. 518 00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:33.000 Michael Jensen: Let me go back to the full checklist here. 519 00:47:34.200 --> 00:47:35.730 Michael Jensen: Sorry, I have to go in the other room. 520 00:47:44.550 --> 00:47:44.820 Michael Jensen: Okay. 521 00:47:46.380 --> 00:47:46.860 Michael Jensen: So. 522 00:47:50.160 --> 00:47:54.840 Michael Jensen: Give me a second here to just put the other one up. 523 00:48:03.810 --> 00:48:05.310 Michael Jensen: Staff report okay. 524 00:48:07.050 --> 00:48:09.870 Michael Jensen: Okay now everyone sees the blank one right. 525 00:48:10.170 --> 00:48:29.640 Michael Jensen: yeah Okay, so when I say delete all the other ones, the first two boxes here, this is exactly what the city uses when they go through and find out whether something is exempt from a project a specific plan project compliance permit, which is the spp. 526 00:48:30.690 --> 00:48:31.560 Michael Jensen: stp on it. 527 00:48:34.650 --> 00:48:43.680 Michael Jensen: So if it checks, the first sort of prong of whether something is de minimis is does it check one of these boxes, if it does. 528 00:48:45.270 --> 00:49:01.740 Michael Jensen: Well, if it does move on to the next one, these are the development standards for all projects, so these two boxes are going to be in every case, regardless of whether it's residential commercial. 529 00:49:03.300 --> 00:49:04.350 Michael Jensen: On a walk street. 530 00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:17.190 Michael Jensen: Whatever sub areas, and those are always going to be used now you get to the, as you know, doubting and the specific plan it's broken up into. 531 00:49:17.850 --> 00:49:27.720 Michael Jensen: Development standards for each sub area so i've broken that into tables so that's why right here you'll see complete the applicable checklist and. 532 00:49:28.830 --> 00:49:41.550 Michael Jensen: delete the rest, so if you're doing something in North Venice i'm going to delete this one i'm going to delete this one I don't know if I should have picked North Venice that's all the way down at the bottom let's say you're doing something in the peninsula. 533 00:49:42.660 --> 00:49:45.840 Michael Jensen: So this is all peninsula canals gets deleted. 534 00:49:47.160 --> 00:49:48.840 Michael Jensen: North vanish gets deleted. 535 00:49:55.230 --> 00:49:58.950 Michael Jensen: Sorry, I listen sometimes it's tricky to delete the table. 536 00:50:00.660 --> 00:50:09.330 Michael Jensen: Okay, so now I deleted, all the other ones and it's a residential let's say so it's not going to be commercial project that gets deleted. 537 00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:19.560 Michael Jensen: And it's not on a walk street or let's say it is on a Wall Street so then that one remains so that means that. 538 00:50:20.700 --> 00:50:33.540 Michael Jensen: This is now you're you're basically checklist for the prop for the project and you'll go through each you know I did this as an experiment with with that and it took me about. 539 00:50:34.560 --> 00:50:43.620 Michael Jensen: 12 minutes to rip through it, granted that was an easy you know simple project, but when you go through, and let me just now. 540 00:50:50.640 --> 00:50:51.960 Michael Jensen: share the other one. 541 00:50:58.770 --> 00:51:03.090 Michael Jensen: So i'll show you the kinds of like the notes, I made okay so. 542 00:51:04.560 --> 00:51:21.540 Michael Jensen: This is a just, so you guys get the project description conversion of a REC room to an ad you in an existing multi unit building, but I mean this is a very discreet change, but I went through and I looked at okay so access to some training parking. 543 00:51:22.860 --> 00:51:28.080 Michael Jensen: Actually, this one should have been not applicable because there's actually no subterranean parking. 544 00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:30.360 Michael Jensen: guess I went to quick. 545 00:51:33.600 --> 00:51:39.630 Michael Jensen: But the brakes, you know this one I didn't do I didn't get out my ruler and look at the the. 546 00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:48.810 Michael Jensen: The elevations, but you can pretty much gas it's I mean this one had windows every like six feet, so it wasn't even close but. 547 00:51:50.430 --> 00:51:51.120 Michael Jensen: This one. 548 00:51:54.930 --> 00:51:56.490 Michael Jensen: So you know. 549 00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:00.390 Michael Jensen: Porches and bays their balconies on it. 550 00:52:03.270 --> 00:52:04.110 Michael Jensen: and 551 00:52:05.550 --> 00:52:16.710 Michael Jensen: Here we have OK, so the density, this was a building built in 1972 which never could be built today, so all of these were compliant, even though they were. 552 00:52:18.450 --> 00:52:30.660 Michael Jensen: I mean they were non conforming and US compliant but you know got out the plans looked at the setbacks and you have right here, you know what they are that either is or it isn't compliant. 553 00:52:32.460 --> 00:52:48.000 Michael Jensen: And so, this then turns into a staff report with the requisite violence, and I think it's way quicker than having to write sort of a narrative or pros about a project, but I need gets us to the same place. 554 00:52:48.930 --> 00:52:49.290 lauren siegel: Right. 555 00:52:50.250 --> 00:52:54.210 lauren siegel: it's been 10 pages already set up with everything you need. 556 00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:58.890 Michael Jensen: Right, and so it gets a little bit more complex when you're. 557 00:52:58.890 --> 00:53:00.000 Michael Jensen: Talking about. 558 00:53:00.540 --> 00:53:15.150 Michael Jensen: You know variances are waivers or adjustments and we'll get into those and i'm happy to create more like right now they're just checkboxes and you would you know let's say that the side yardage like the last project was. 559 00:53:16.230 --> 00:53:17.100 Michael Jensen: You know the. 560 00:53:19.470 --> 00:53:28.740 Michael Jensen: Well, I guess there's no passageway portion of the Venice specific plan, but there can be you know you would check that box and could then right. 561 00:53:28.830 --> 00:53:30.420 Michael Jensen: I mean, maybe that's where the narrative. 562 00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:41.670 Michael Jensen: comes in handy for now, this just takes projects that are basically compliant if they're not we'll have to add i'll add some kind of layer to this about those things. 563 00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:47.880 barrycassilly: Can you get the so if you're doing a variance or an adjustment or or. 564 00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:49.920 barrycassilly: Do you get one after. 565 00:53:50.580 --> 00:53:53.040 barrycassilly: it's granted, but the. 566 00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:56.490 barrycassilly: Eight you're hearing or what happens there. 567 00:53:57.300 --> 00:54:19.620 Michael Jensen: So what's interesting to me, is when I read the city's checklist I mean right here it doesn't say anything about a about a CA or a variance so I mean I think i'd like to maybe have a dialogue with the planner about this because. 568 00:54:21.420 --> 00:54:32.670 Michael Jensen: The SP the spp review is only required in this is the box right here you're building more than four units, if your. 569 00:54:34.590 --> 00:54:36.630 Michael Jensen: or your DEMO and more than four units. 570 00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:43.140 Michael Jensen: or you're on a walk street or you're doing commercial project like. 571 00:54:44.700 --> 00:54:47.790 Michael Jensen: The fact that something has an adjustment. 572 00:54:49.260 --> 00:54:51.270 Michael Jensen: i'd like to know where they're making that. 573 00:54:54.120 --> 00:54:57.930 Michael Jensen: That determination that that one doesn't qualify for. 574 00:54:59.490 --> 00:55:00.270 Michael Jensen: Of the SL. 575 00:55:01.680 --> 00:55:01.980 Michael Jensen: Then. 576 00:55:02.190 --> 00:55:03.870 barrycassilly: But until you have that discussion. 577 00:55:04.080 --> 00:55:05.010 Michael Jensen: we're going to. 578 00:55:05.370 --> 00:55:18.780 Michael Jensen: we're going to be considered and and really in the beginning, like I sort of want for practice for everyone to just ripped through all of the ones that have the so tags like do this anyway, because I think it's a really helpful. 579 00:55:20.130 --> 00:55:31.140 Michael Jensen: way to familiarize yourself with the standards, looking at plans, because you'll start to build a rhythm of like where you look for the certain things and. 580 00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:49.050 Michael Jensen: And like I said, because the city is not really giving us a like front loaded vso determination, I think you know we are as good at interpreting the specific plan as they are. 581 00:55:51.030 --> 00:55:53.910 Michael Jensen: So let's just make our own recommendation. 582 00:55:55.560 --> 00:55:55.860 barrycassilly: well. 583 00:55:58.170 --> 00:56:05.760 Michael Jensen: So I guess I I we're not voting on anything but um let's see do we have any attendees. 584 00:56:07.080 --> 00:56:09.960 Michael Jensen: Is there any public comment on this Erica. 585 00:56:11.460 --> 00:56:18.030 Erica Moore: I want to hear you guys actually I think that's really great i'm sorry a little under the weather. 586 00:56:18.570 --> 00:56:26.520 Erica Moore: And my voice is funny but Michael um you've done a really nice job on that and I think anything to help everybody on your team. 587 00:56:27.180 --> 00:56:36.390 Erica Moore: To be able to do their job easier, I think, is is a plus that's a win for everybody, and I applaud you for taking the time to do that, and I hope that you guys can. 588 00:56:37.470 --> 00:56:45.330 Erica Moore: utilize that format, to the best of you know your abilities and that it will help you guys for these meetings. 589 00:56:48.030 --> 00:56:48.480 Michael Jensen: Thank you. 590 00:56:49.410 --> 00:56:52.350 Michael Jensen: Welcome closing public comments. 591 00:56:55.830 --> 00:57:07.770 Michael Jensen: Okay, so I guess the second, this is the checklist I think the other thing I want to just sort of talk, while we're all all of our attention is focused is sort of. 592 00:57:10.560 --> 00:57:18.540 Michael Jensen: What the expectation is in terms of you tracking your cases through the process because i'm what i'm finding is i'm it's hard for me to get. 593 00:57:19.050 --> 00:57:32.190 Michael Jensen: to remember all of the different balls in the air in terms of like what the process for an applicant is like they have an outreach meeting the staff report gets generated it goes to loop back after we vote on it, it goes to. 594 00:57:34.200 --> 00:57:44.580 Michael Jensen: The dnc board after the dnc board votes on it, I have to draft a letter to the planning department and coastal Commission with the vote send that off to Jim. 595 00:57:46.110 --> 00:58:00.450 Michael Jensen: it's honestly consuming so much of my time to just bring one of those through what i'd like to do is ensure that So if you saw on the staff report here. 596 00:58:02.700 --> 00:58:10.500 Michael Jensen: So let's say you have a your staff on this, and let me share it again so. 597 00:58:12.660 --> 00:58:23.940 Michael Jensen: Okay, so you are staff on this, I am staff on us and tonight we heard it right, why isn't this one, this is not the right one, sorry. 598 00:58:25.020 --> 00:58:27.330 Michael Jensen: Let me find where it's going it's filled out. 599 00:58:32.250 --> 00:58:32.760 Michael Jensen: Okay. 600 00:58:35.100 --> 00:58:36.030 Michael Jensen: So. 601 00:58:40.620 --> 00:58:42.690 Michael Jensen: Okay, so let's say. 602 00:58:44.820 --> 00:58:51.060 Michael Jensen: Okay i'm staff on that there's no notification loop back hearing no public comment. 603 00:58:53.670 --> 00:58:55.140 Michael Jensen: The motion was. 604 00:58:56.550 --> 00:58:57.660 Michael Jensen: Well, there wasn't a motion. 605 00:59:00.450 --> 00:59:02.100 Michael Jensen: So I commend. 606 00:59:03.720 --> 00:59:04.530 Michael Jensen: minimis. 607 00:59:08.370 --> 00:59:08.790 Michael Jensen: letter. 608 00:59:10.260 --> 00:59:13.050 Michael Jensen: And usually we would do this by. 609 00:59:16.410 --> 00:59:18.960 Michael Jensen: We didn't do this by it was consent. 610 00:59:21.720 --> 00:59:41.940 Michael Jensen: But if this was a, for instance, or nauseous case we would go through you know public comment, and as you as the staff person are in charge of so like you know the Saturday or Sunday before I have to post the agenda on Monday I get the draft staff report that's before our meeting. 611 00:59:43.530 --> 00:59:48.900 Michael Jensen: That then signals me that I can put it on the agenda and. 612 00:59:50.370 --> 00:59:57.840 Michael Jensen: At the meeting, if your staff also because it's hard for me to run the meeting and take notes and I like I can't buy for Kate my brain. 613 00:59:58.470 --> 01:00:15.690 Michael Jensen: If you can be the one who is taking the note, you know, making these records and filling in this part of it, so that, after the meeting you send me then the finalized staff report because now, it will be a final staff report it's got our vote in it and it's got. 614 01:00:17.040 --> 01:00:31.110 Michael Jensen: You know all of the stuff that all the staff report findings, it may come out in the meeting that some of the information here was wrong and then you would have the opportunity during the meeting to edit that to make the correct findings. 615 01:00:32.520 --> 01:00:33.570 Michael Jensen: As everyone following. 616 01:00:34.950 --> 01:00:36.480 Andrew Mika: yeah that's great, and then we send to you. 617 01:00:36.540 --> 01:00:39.450 Michael Jensen: And then you send it to me, and then I know when I get that. 618 01:00:39.450 --> 01:00:43.560 Michael Jensen: Final staff report that then signals to me that. 619 01:00:44.610 --> 01:01:05.790 Michael Jensen: I can put it on add column, the important thing to remember is in order for us to get something on the the dnc agenda, I have to essentially know a week before it, whether or not it's going to be coming on there so. 620 01:01:10.410 --> 01:01:13.170 Michael Jensen: So that's it's it's hard to. 621 01:01:14.580 --> 01:01:18.660 Michael Jensen: Like unless you're doing this stuff in real time it's hard to. 622 01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:27.870 Michael Jensen: You know you can't just like whip it up and submitted in for an agenda like as an agenda request so. 623 01:01:28.830 --> 01:01:37.080 Michael Jensen: i'd like to eventually get to the point where, after the final staff report is done, maybe you guys are submitting your own for agenda. 624 01:01:38.040 --> 01:01:48.720 Michael Jensen: Your own projects on the agenda request, but we'll see because it's just the way that jim's system of this program that you have to use to to do stuff is honestly. 625 01:01:50.100 --> 01:02:03.120 Michael Jensen: Very difficult and the only alternative is that I essentially have to go in and enter in every case manually which I didn't want it took me like three hours to submit the cases for outcome. 626 01:02:03.450 --> 01:02:03.990 barrycassilly: Oh, my God. 627 01:02:04.530 --> 01:02:05.220 So. 628 01:02:06.330 --> 01:02:09.300 Mehrnoosh: yeah it's insane me ask a question, Michael. 629 01:02:09.660 --> 01:02:21.810 Mehrnoosh: Yes, sorry i'm sure everybody knows about it but i'm going to ask you again so first we submit this to loop back and then Thereafter we make all the corrections after meetings, then we submitted again to you right. 630 01:02:21.930 --> 01:02:24.480 Michael Jensen: So you send this to me as a draft. 631 01:02:25.530 --> 01:02:36.300 Michael Jensen: Initially, before our meeting okay good after that yeah we can have you know that you know there's stuff here in terms of. 632 01:02:37.080 --> 01:02:46.890 Michael Jensen: things that happened at the hearing yeah and then the findings may change, depending on what the dialogue, and you know what what happens at the meeting. 633 01:02:47.430 --> 01:03:00.420 Michael Jensen: So then, after the loop tech meeting there'll be a vote which then gets entered in here and they'll be these so now, the report is final right, and now it can be used for. 634 01:03:02.250 --> 01:03:04.170 Michael Jensen: even see the dnc. 635 01:03:04.500 --> 01:03:06.360 Mehrnoosh: Okay, good Thank you Daddy. 636 01:03:06.990 --> 01:03:12.000 Michael Jensen: So i'll get this this staff report template finalized. 637 01:03:14.520 --> 01:03:17.220 Michael Jensen: And out to everyone so that they can. 638 01:03:19.140 --> 01:03:24.480 Michael Jensen: start using it, but I would just go go through your bow and then okay so let's look at. 639 01:03:25.500 --> 01:03:27.360 Michael Jensen: If you guys remember I. 640 01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:34.680 Michael Jensen: I created somewhat of a tracking system for our. 641 01:03:39.300 --> 01:03:48.300 Michael Jensen: Erica i'm going to lower your hand, I think I just forgot to do that before, but if there's something else I guess raise your hand again, but I just want to talk about one more thing, before you turn. 642 01:03:50.850 --> 01:03:52.290 Michael Jensen: So. 643 01:03:54.570 --> 01:03:54.900 Michael Jensen: Okay. 644 01:03:57.480 --> 01:04:00.930 Michael Jensen: So this is our docket. 645 01:04:04.020 --> 01:04:12.060 Michael Jensen: So it's got, and this is the same thing that's available when you're on the vm CS page, so it syncs automatically. 646 01:04:14.460 --> 01:04:22.080 Michael Jensen: But well, you can do in here is, you should be able to change the status. 647 01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:25.230 Michael Jensen: and 648 01:04:27.810 --> 01:04:39.480 Michael Jensen: See here, and then it will allow you to like if you're ready for lupus you can change that status does anyone not know how to access this this excel sheet. 649 01:04:42.210 --> 01:04:43.650 corinne Baginski: No, I don't. 650 01:04:44.340 --> 01:04:45.120 I don't either. 651 01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:51.450 Michael Jensen: Okay, so I sent everybody a link to this did everyone get an. 652 01:04:52.470 --> 01:04:53.010 barrycassilly: email. 653 01:04:54.450 --> 01:04:55.350 Michael Jensen: To me and see. 654 01:04:55.530 --> 01:05:05.970 Michael Jensen: So the thing to do, if you log in to Google drive with your V MC account info yes and you go to. 655 01:05:07.470 --> 01:05:09.570 Michael Jensen: Google drive shared with me. 656 01:05:10.140 --> 01:05:11.760 Michael Jensen: This active Luca Luca. 657 01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:15.390 Michael Jensen: Luca cases should come up, it should appear. 658 01:05:16.410 --> 01:05:18.240 lauren siegel: easier than that, though there's a link. 659 01:05:19.080 --> 01:05:21.630 Michael Jensen: Right, I also did send everyone a link. 660 01:05:21.870 --> 01:05:25.740 Michael Jensen: yeah I only gotten three responses to that emails i'm guessing there's. 661 01:05:26.310 --> 01:05:27.180 Michael Jensen: An issue with. 662 01:05:29.910 --> 01:05:30.390 Michael Jensen: Last. 663 01:05:43.980 --> 01:05:49.230 Andrew Mika: um I know we go i'll i'll connect to the macallan my new case, thank you. 664 01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:51.840 Michael Jensen: yeah so i'm gonna join the meeting. 665 01:05:52.560 --> 01:05:57.360 Michael Jensen: Anyway, so thank you everyone if you have any questions. 666 01:06:00.030 --> 01:06:02.070 Michael Jensen: Please connect with me by phone. 667 01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:03.810 Michael Jensen: Okay. 668 01:06:04.380 --> 01:06:06.120 barrycassilly: we're all gonna go try this up okay. 669 01:06:06.720 --> 01:06:07.770 Michael Jensen: yeah Godspeed. 670 01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:11.010 corinne Baginski: Michael Michael cell phone. 671 01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:17.190 corinne Baginski: Sure, email to you I don't know I think i'm not receiving your emails. 672 01:06:17.640 --> 01:06:18.390 Michael Jensen: I think. 673 01:06:19.410 --> 01:06:21.900 Michael Jensen: So whoever someone misspelled your name. 674 01:06:23.610 --> 01:06:24.060 corinne Baginski: yeah. 675 01:06:24.180 --> 01:06:27.060 Michael Jensen: And it has like polluted every single. 676 01:06:28.080 --> 01:06:28.590 Michael Jensen: thing. 677 01:06:30.120 --> 01:06:33.660 lauren siegel: She pick number one because it's in the spreadsheet lubick number one. 678 01:06:33.690 --> 01:06:37.500 corinne Baginski: yeah I remember one but somehow I I. 679 01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:39.990 corinne Baginski: I couldn't. 680 01:06:40.590 --> 01:06:42.540 Michael Jensen: Somebody made the elite it's. 681 01:06:42.690 --> 01:06:48.060 Michael Jensen: That someone made current alias CEO are our I and II. 682 01:06:49.560 --> 01:06:50.250 Michael Jensen: So. 683 01:06:52.710 --> 01:06:53.670 Michael Jensen: And I did. 684 01:06:56.010 --> 01:06:57.210 corinne Baginski: record that yeah. 685 01:06:58.050 --> 01:06:58.890 Michael Jensen: I corrected it. 686 01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:01.350 corinne Baginski: On our yeah I know you did correct that. 687 01:07:02.250 --> 01:07:11.850 Michael Jensen: But I don't think it's correct in the distribution list when there's like an l upc at Venice nc.org. 688 01:07:13.350 --> 01:07:19.200 Michael Jensen: I don't believe it's correct in there, so I asked the key to double check. 689 01:07:21.060 --> 01:07:22.830 corinne Baginski: yourself on it, and that would be. 690 01:07:22.890 --> 01:07:24.750 Michael Jensen: I just I just emailed it to you. 691 01:07:25.380 --> 01:07:26.490 corinne Baginski: Thank you so much. 692 01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:39.720 Michael Jensen: Okay guys Thank you and stay tuned for the staff report, I will try and finish that template tomorrow and i'll add in some stuff about notes on the a's and things like that. 693 01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:41.190 Michael Jensen: Okay okay. 694 01:07:41.460 --> 01:07:42.450 corinne Baginski: Thank you, thank you. 695 01:07:42.630 --> 01:07:43.080 barrycassilly: Thank you. 696 01:07:43.140 --> 01:07:43.650 corinne Baginski: good night.