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Daffodil Tyminski: Good morning.

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james murez: Good morning.

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Daffodil Tyminski: How you doing.

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james murez: Well i'm glad that the other meeting was cancelled actually was not cancelled, it was postponed, I don't know if you saw that message, but you were CC.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I did, I thought.

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james murez: It was like too much is happening all at once.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I now.

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james murez: Like i'm juggling five balls and they just throw in two or three more.

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james murez: See Ivan is here, let me promote him.

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james murez: Are you free after this for 10 minutes.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm depending on how long it goes yes.

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james murez: i'm just reading over a document that Tom Elliot sent to me.

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james murez: And I need to give him some help on but.

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james murez: it's not clear exactly what it is it's going on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You want to send it to me.

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james murez: Well it's like six or seven pages, mostly which seems to be la housing department bs but.

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james murez: I haven't found what they're actually complaining about yet and i'm on the fourth page.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The housing department, but yeah.

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james murez: Maybe this is the first page I don't know.

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james murez: Oh, I see other people, I tried to promote, but he didn't promote.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Jim James on as well.

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james murez: yep.

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james murez: He can tell me how he wants to conduct this.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Good morning Ivan.

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james murez: Todd you're, not even in your pajamas Ivan i'm impressed.

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jay handal: I was just going to ask is this 10am or pm.

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jay handal: I think.

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jay handal: Oh, my God, are we going to have three more months of summer.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm not sure if you saw a shadow Jay.

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james murez: So Jay this meeting is being recorded, just so you're aware of.

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jay handal: that's okay bring them on.

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jay handal: Alright, nothing I can say that I can't deny.

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james murez: We have quorum at this point.

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Daffodil Tyminski: You saw Helens email that she is going to be late.

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james murez: yeah, I suppose, probably going to the cancelled meeting to find out, it was cancelled.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Did you tell her it was cancelled.

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james murez: I don't want to be responsible for telling her anything oh.

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jay handal: Okay let's do it.

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jay handal: 10 o'clock and we're ready to go.

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james murez: This is a joint meeting cj is on the meeting i'm currently host I would be more than happy to make you co host J or whatever position you would like.

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jay handal: Right, so if you could make me a Co host and make daffodil a Co host i'm going to ask her to run because, at some point you're going to have to recuse yourself.

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jay handal: Correct so i'm going to ask daffodil to actually just play with the zoom for me so that I can go through the agenda and we can knock this thing out.

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james murez: Okay Now let me ask you one other question in the past we you know when when I put the agenda together, I use this tool that I made.

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james murez: I love it okay so so when when we go through the items I will work the controls of it and you just tell me when you're ready to move from item to item, and when you want to take a vote, and all that kind of good.

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jay handal: Job sure, and just see you know, even though you've made that document, the basc still has to be filled out.

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jay handal: For the city on everything we do so, I have actually made.

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jay handal: BA si forms for your counsel.

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james murez: Okay.

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jay handal: It is the end of the meeting I will fill in I will have to get to the second signer which I think is daffodil.

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jay handal: Correct and then I can scan them get him in anything we've approved and again that's not for today that's for the board right so.

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james murez: Okay, in the future i'm going to make my program where it can automatically fill those things out for us because.

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jay handal: yeah that's awesome yes.

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james murez: it'll come in and, as I do that i'll make the tool available for other neighborhood Councils that want to use it.

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jay handal: awesome yeah there was another company that was actually doing that.

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jay handal: That we tested it and West la and it's it's good I mean it's Nice, you can just automate boom boom boom you're done.

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james murez: yeah well that's what that's what this thing did and I didn't know about any other tool or wouldn't have created it but.

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jay handal: There you go alright alright guys So here we go so daffodil and myself should be now administrators.

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james murez: Co administrator.

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jay handal: Yes, so we're going to go down this is the budget and Finance Committee meeting Thank you all I think everyone knows who I am so i'm not going to go into any of that.

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jay handal: We have a number of items on the agenda to look at.

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jay handal: I have, I have gone through every single item, as well as had.

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jay handal: meetings with the funding department and done regarding the items.

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jay handal: So, at that point i'm ready to move on Item number so Item number five I don't know that there's anybody on that is a.

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jay handal: stakeholder if there is, can you raise your hand if you have a comment on items, not on the agenda.

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james murez: Well, should we take a quick roll call, just so we know who's.

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jay handal: Here oh sure sure so handle ramirez.

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jay handal: yup Kaminski.

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jay handal: yep custom at ski.

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jay handal: Spiegel.

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jay handal: yeah found.

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jay handal: So we have quorum we have four people.

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jay handal: quorum, for this is.

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jay handal: My DEMO quorum it out of six.

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james murez: hold on one second.

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jay handal: yeah quorum is for.

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james murez: Right.

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james murez: i'm just trying to get this all set here.

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james murez: Save that away there we go Thank you sorry.

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jay handal: Okay, no problem i'm closing public comment because we have nobody who has said, public come.

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jay handal: I do not have the reports, as I have not been made privy to the website for Venice with city clerk I applied yesterday they said it could take three business days.

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jay handal: As soon as I have that, hopefully, I will have that in time for the board meeting, and we will agenda is it you know I would make a motion to pass the me i'll report approval on to the board with no recommendation.

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james murez: Okay sounds good to me.

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jay handal: So is there any objection to that.

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jay handal: anybody else.

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jay handal: Okay, so that passes we're going to do the administrative packet last because the numbers are going to depend on what we end up giving away today so let's go on to.

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jay handal: The the school reconsideration.

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jay handal: So first we'll take a motion to reconsider.

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james murez: So i'm going to make i'm going to make the motion because i'm the one that asked for it.

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jay handal: Okay i'll second it.

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jay handal: Anybody object, this is only to reconsider anybody against.

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jay handal: Okay, so that passes for all.

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Daffodil Tyminski: guys i'm Sema just joined the meeting, if you could promote her as a panelist.

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james murez: So um I think you can, but let me do it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, if I can't oh you're right, I can sorry I didn't realize it and then get a little message all right she's coming in.

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james murez: awesome day.

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jay handal: So item nine to.

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reconsider.

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james murez: And I do, do we need to take a vote on that.

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jay handal: Now we need to take a vote, we just took a vote on the reconsideration itself.

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james murez: Okay.

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jay handal: We will now.

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jay handal: Talk about the application.

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james murez: itself so so i'm assuming you're voting yes and I voted yes daffodil how did you vote.

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jay handal: Yes, yeah.

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james murez: And Ivan how did you vote.

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james murez: Okay.

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jay handal: Just so everybody knows the way I run the way I do these.

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james murez: yeah.

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jay handal: It is all s first anybody abstain than anybody against and then anyone who hasn't will then be considered a yes vote.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Jay we have had some stakeholders file grievances for us not doing roll calls.

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jay handal: So that is actually considered a roll call.

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james murez: So, so my only question at this point is it seem a vote on that one or do we were she not in the.

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jay handal: mo was not in the mix when the boat happen.

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jay handal: Okay, so Sema will come in on the next level.

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james murez: So she was.

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jay handal: She was you don't have a column for absent.

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james murez: No, I don't.

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jay handal: But it would be absent.

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james murez: All right, i'll just leave it blank very good.

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jay handal: Okay, so.

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Sima Kostov: Sorry, you faded on me this is seema hi nice to meet you.

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jay handal: I see my nice to meet.

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Sima Kostov: You yeah you'll see my face in a little while um can you just repeat that you faded on me, you said, the way you do meetings is how.

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jay handal: So the way I run a meeting for a vote a roll call vote, we know who had we know who's here in the roll call, so I will first ask who abstains, then I will ask who is against and then everybody else is considered a yes vote at that point.

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Sima Kostov: got it Thank you.

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jay handal: And then the chip whoever's running the meeting will click the buttons for all the votes, and that is your local.

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jay handal: OK OK, so now we're talking about the friends of the school i've reviewed the packet it's been amended it appears to be something that is legal and, that being the case, I would recommend that the.

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jay handal: Friends of the school application for an NP GB approved for i'm gonna i'm going to ask that we reduce the amount to 4999.

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jay handal: Because 5000 and up triggers a potential contract review.

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jay handal: And that could take months 4999 I get the passage, the way it is, and they get shorted $1.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'll second that motion it's Stefano.

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james murez: So is Jay making the motion.

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jay handal: I am.

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james murez: And for the second and Jay I don't want to question your authority you've been doing this, a long time, a lot longer than me conducting these kinds of things Ivan had previously told me that the chair of a committee is not allowed to be a maker or a second or.

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Ivan: I just wanted to robert's rules thing that we've been using for a long time.

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jay handal: hey i'm perfectly happy to have someone else make the motion.

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james murez: Alright, so i'll make the motion on that one and and then there won't be any question from the naysayers going or the Trolls, as some people call them.

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jay handal: Not a problem.

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james murez: Okay, thank you.

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james murez: Okay, we need to take the boat then.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Or do we have any public company, we do have one public one hand raise for public comment.

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jay handal: Okay.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Robin go ahead.

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Robin: hi good morning everybody, so I have a couple questions or comments, one is.

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Robin: That my reading and experience says that it's you can have up to $5,000 so I don't believe you have to change that dollar amount, and I believe it shows that right on the.

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Robin: front of the will the old applications it's also on the page that.

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Robin: The city clerk puts out then secondly from my experience in applying for these things, one of the primary requirements is that there'd be a detailed budget and by detailed what they've always required is.

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Robin: Well, for us, we always had to provide actually the vendors, who were going to be receiving the payment, but something like just saying that they need $1,000 for paint.

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Robin: would not be sufficient from the way it used to be um I don't know that that's changed it seems like these are broad figures that don't really give a specific.

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Robin: And then Thirdly, if there's a question of need, this is an organization that has over $470,000 on an annual basis at their disposal, so I would question whether this is an appropriate project to fund, thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: cj is also has their hand raised cj go ahead.

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CJ Cole: Okay, my only question, and this is the question that i've had, for I don't know how many times is, how can we approve one before we have gone through all of them.

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CJ Cole: I mean don't we have two or 10 the Budget Committee approves, all of them, even if we don't have the money to do it and then what makes a decision, but I have asked for a spreadsheet of what's been requested by who, for what so that all of them could be looked at, at the same time.

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CJ Cole: And I don't know I may just misunderstand how this works, but if you prove this, to me it says the gym already taken $5,000 of our money and have allocated to this project, thank you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thanks ej.

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jay handal: So cj.

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Daffodil Tyminski: With that we're going to close public comment.

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jay handal: Right and and look for the committee, just so you know we will go through all the projects, and if we exceed the amount of money we have left to spend.

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jay handal: Then we will have to come back and adjust dollars I don't believe based on what I see here in the applications, we will exceed the money we have spent.

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jay handal: The next item.

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james murez: We do we want to take a vote on.

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jay handal: i'll take a boat on that vote on the mtg for the school, we have a motion and a second.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Jim made the motion I capital, I will be the second.

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jay handal: Anybody abstaining.

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jay handal: Anybody against.

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jay handal: The net motion will pass you know.

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jay handal: The next item on the agenda.

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jay handal: Is for open collective foundation.

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jay handal: And this is or.

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jay handal: See it's for supplies for la in for ends rapidly growing monthly resource Center allowing the ability to expand further services announced individuals from Venice are transported to the resource Center in my vista to access services so.

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james murez: i'll go ahead and make the motion.

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jay handal: So we do have a motion is there a SEC.

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jay handal: Going once.

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jay handal: Going twice.

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jay handal: Okay, then this application dies, for lack of a SEC.

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james murez: J Out of curiosity, how do I record that in the boat.

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jay handal: There is no vote because there's no emotion.

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james murez: So how do I record it for the future.

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jay handal: There is no future, this doesn't go to the board, this is day.

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jay handal: i'll just.

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james murez: make a note here, so we have a record of some sort yeah.

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jay handal: Mostly make note that it died for lack of the SEC.

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jay handal: OK, the next item.

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jay handal: So we have.

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jay handal: scrolling up Okay, so we have item 11 and item.

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james murez: And I need to recuse myself from this, but when you tell me, too, I will route work the controls of the.

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james murez: Taking of the vote.

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jay handal: daffodil can you take the vote.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I can take the vote I just can't use jim's program So what we can do is take the vote and then.

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jay handal: Wait and then we'll bring him back.

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jay handal: Yes, okay so Jim you can recuse yourself, please a.

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james murez: blackout me.

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james murez: Please blackout up.

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jay handal: and turn off his audio as well, and we are going to look at these two items now these two items.

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jay handal: i've reviewed them, I talked to downtown.

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jay handal: Number One.

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jay handal: There are issues with this item that I see.

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jay handal: So let's take Item number 11.

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jay handal: Item number 11, which is the fabrication of a capital mole step one.

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jay handal: These columns are on private property, they are not public.

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jay handal: And I have nothing in the packet approval by the landowners to do work on their property.

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jay handal: Number two, these are just fabrications I see nothing about installation, which means a project can't be completed at this point there's no funding, nor is there the ability to.

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jay handal: to fund to fund and finish this item.

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jay handal: Number three is a very big potential of a conflict as Robin euro's his sister to the chair of the board and that would probably trigger according to what i'm told an ethics issue.

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jay handal: Number four I mean basically this if if this whole project came together with installation, it would be in next year's budget.

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jay handal: And number five, even though it is split between number 11 and number 12.

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jay handal: It would be considered by downtown one five deck and would be a contract at the very least.

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jay handal: Because it's the same vendor and you can't split and think you can get away with splitting so for all of those reasons I am recommending denying both of these projects.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So um we need someone to make the motion which i'm happy to do i'm not happy to do, but you know I understand what your.

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Daffodil Tyminski: rationale is so I will make the motion to deny.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The project.

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jay handal: Is there a second.

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jay handal: To deny.

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Sima Kostov: Yes, hi this is Steve I second that.

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Sima Kostov: So I have.

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Sima Kostov: For all the reasons that you say to Jay Thank you.

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jay handal: Okay, so I have a second to deny or a public comment on these two items um.

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Ivan: So before you go any further, I Center.

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Ivan: Separate vendor.

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Ivan: Like that we're.

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jay handal: According according to the paperwork, I have here vision scenery is attached to the first one and vision scenery is attached to the second one, now that may be mistaken what I was given but that's what my package shows, but in either case that's not the issue.

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Ivan: Oh well, I just want to be.

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Ivan: heard on the record that tool yeah.

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jay handal: I don't have a if there's a second vendor it's not in the packet I was given the packet I was given his the same vendor.

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jay handal: For both but that's not the reason for denial that would just be the reason, if we move forward to send it in for a contract, but the bigger issues are it's private property will not allow the fun.

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jay handal: Improvements to private property, we don't have, in fact, we have one letter from a property owners, saying they don't want anyone touching their property.

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jay handal: And these are not historic based on the city registry and therefore we really don't have the right to go on private property and improve their property well, I have a motion, I have a second, is there any public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: There is some public comment, and I think it's going to shed some light on what the project is but i'm Robin I think you can talk go ahead.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I am what we're not.

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Daffodil Tyminski: going to keep exact time.

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jay handal: One minute.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The committee.

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jay handal: But one minute one minute.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

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Robin: So um you're right, this is the same vendor these are two separate project, the two separate items so that could be done separately, for the first could be done.

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Robin: The second can't be done without the first on the question of it being public property i'm told that it's the parkway.

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Robin: That you know we all have that usually it's a grassy strip and that that's public property, so I don't think that's correct if you know differently, you know let's figure that out.

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Robin: The question of their being property owners in favor of it well, that I guess the other group was asked to or enabled to.

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Robin: make alterations to their proposal, I was not given that option, though I have met with several of the property owners and they in fact are in favor and they include Tony bill and mark socal and regarding the conflict of interest.

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Robin: That well if you see a conflict of interest here on this came from my committee it's not for me personally, and I would.

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Robin: suggest also that daffodil has a few projects on from her personally, as well as for the commit her committees, so I think you need to be looking at recusals across the board that are appropriate and i'm.

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jay handal: thumbs up Thank you next speaker.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um there are.

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Daffodil Tyminski: There are no other public comments.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So we can close.

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jay handal: Up accountable comment is closed, we will take a boat.

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jay handal: Anybody who is abstaining from the motion to deny.

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jay handal: Anybody who is against the motion to deny.

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jay handal: Then, that will pass unanimously and those two items will be pulled from the fact that the next item on the agenda, and please bring Mr muir his back.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Let me text him.

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jay handal: hold on a second hold on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: we'll wait.

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Daffodil Tyminski: He must be back because he.

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jay handal: And we have another we have another item with Robin bureaus on it, which is the.

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jay handal: landmark site markers so miss them yours needs to recuse himself from this item to.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I don't aren't who is operating the agenda.

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jay handal: not me.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So gymnasts be here.

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Daffodil Tyminski: If he's taking the vote and operating me.

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jay handal: Okay, so we're on the next item, and Jimmy recused again.

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jay handal: Which is the Venice cultural, historical landmarks site markers.

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jay handal: So again, this item is something that's going to be put on private property.

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jay handal: So it's to its to manufacturer, but they can't be an end date because I don't see in my packet any approvals from any of the buildings to allow people to hang them on the buildings.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Do we know that it's on private property, I was unclear about that.

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jay handal: Well, according to what it says.

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jay handal: Venice has an abundance of multicultural historic sites that could receive markers they include significant architectural sites, including the hundred year old short line trolley bridge the Venice West beat poet landmark the ocean front walk pagodas the iconic Italian colonnade.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I don't can you scroll down to the.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Action item 14.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So we can see it okay.

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jay handal: So, according to this is going on, either public or private properties.

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jay handal: And again there's no end date potential because there's no plan for installation there's a plan to buy, but not a plan to install.

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jay handal: My suggestion is that and it's not that it's a lot of money, you know it's $1,000 but I, my suggestion is that if you guys want to do this, you should do it in next year's budget with.

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jay handal: All of the proper documentation if if you're putting it on city historic property get permission from the city.

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jay handal: If you're putting it on private property get permission from the private property people and have that all in the packet to be able to be reviewed and Okay, and again the issue of the potential conflict of interest.

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jay handal: With Robin and Jim you know it's just another issue for downtown that they will probably bounces so.

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jay handal: On that note i'm suggesting that this item, also be passed over.

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Daffodil Tyminski: It so based on what you're saying, and I know we're procedurally a little out of whack here but based on what you're saying it seems to me that each of the projects now on the rest of this agenda or fatally flawed, which is frankly not what we understood from the city.

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Daffodil Tyminski: earlier in the year, but I understand if that's their position that's their position.

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jay handal: we're going to go item by item.

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Daffodil Tyminski: No, I understand I really like this project and.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Robin has done some of this around Venice already and does a fantastic job of.

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Daffodil Tyminski: It so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: If we are going, if we do if eventually it's going to fail right, which is what the sense of.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Reading is.

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Daffodil Tyminski: My suggestion is is that we find a way to bring it back.

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Daffodil Tyminski: take it to the neighborhood committee and just have them pass it to avoid the conflict or something in the future, but um, I just wanted to get your sense like it seems that the rest of these are going to fail, basically, I.

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jay handal: mean, for all practical purposes, for a number of different reasons, there are failures here.

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jay handal: And I don't know who your treasure was prior to me, but I can tell you that you know, the best thing to do is work with a treasurer who has had the proper treasurer training.

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jay handal: And who can talk downtown you know at any given time to get proper information so that the guidance is there to make sure that if you're going to propose it you're not going to waste time that's all so you know I mean if you want to pass this $4,000.

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jay handal: and try and run it through downtown you know you can try.

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jay handal: But, again, I think that there's a number of items in here that's flawed Okay, the number of components that are fluid that it's going to be rejected for a number of different reasons.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So we need to make a motion um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I am I don't know you know this is out of my area of expertise I don't know, then what it would take to get it passed downtown, but we do need to make a motion, one way or the other Robin does is here has her hand raised for public comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: To somebody want to make emotion.

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jay handal: Well, the question is, is there a motion to approve this project.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Only.

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jay handal: Seeing row.

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jay handal: Seeing no motion to approve and no second, then this project is for lack of emotion.

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jay handal: The next item, please the self guided tours.

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jay handal: That would be a Community improvement project.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Right, this is item 15 Jim if you could scroll up just a little bit.

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jay handal: So there are a number of questions on this item.

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james murez: Am I excuse me, am I allowed to come back into.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Your back.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Actually, this is also robins project but.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Oh Jay there's actually two similar ones on here that have the same issues it's number, we might be able to take them together, just to speed it up not moving a pace, but.

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jay handal: yeah so i'm looking at i'm looking at the first one, which is the APP.

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jay handal: mm hmm and then the second one is.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Also, an APP they're essentially to do the same things.

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jay handal: Well that's a different one no the.

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jay handal: Next, one is typical ball.

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Daffodil Tyminski: No, but if you scroll down number 16 and number 15 are essentially to do the same project, it just came in.

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Daffodil Tyminski: He said it so i'm just suggesting will take them together, because they have we.

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jay handal: Take 15 and 16 together that's fun.

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jay handal: OK, so the issues of the same.

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jay handal: Number one who's going to own the APP.

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jay handal: Number two if you're going to buy the APP you need to fund the APP maintenance through the next fiscal year.

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jay handal: Number three does no vendor invoice or no vendor pick to build the APP.

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jay handal: So I have no documentation on who the vendor is.

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jay handal: And then number five.

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jay handal: In the packet it says, once the APP is up and functional ongoing maintenance will be handled by Community volunteers well again, the question is who owns the APP.

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jay handal: Okay there's no nonprofit that's asking money for the APP the committee seems to be the one asking for the APP and the committee can't own the APP.

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jay handal: So the question then becomes.

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jay handal: Who who's going to own it who's going to build it, what are the ongoing fees who's the vendor and for all of these reasons, both of these.

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jay handal: These projects are not ready for prime time and for both of those reasons I would move to deny both projects and, if you want to bring them back their fee and bring them back.

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Robin: All of those questions are answered in.

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Daffodil Tyminski: The princes closely.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm Robin will Connie for public comment on this is definitely one of those.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Requests came from the neighborhood Committee, and it is not a conflict for a committee chair to sit on a another committee where one of their projects are voted on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: But I do understand from the city what the issues are, and particularly with the ownership of the APP and some of the maintenance issues.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i've spoken to the city about it, and this really just as a project that should be done privately common we.

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Daffodil Tyminski: released from our committee, we have a bunch of Community volunteers.

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Daffodil Tyminski: That were willing to do it privately I don't know from robins committee what they have but it just this is not appropriate for the neighborhood Council is basically what.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I understand from the city, or so I will make a motion to deny both projects 15 and 16 I need a second on that motion, and then I know Robin wants to make some comments.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Do I have a second to deny.

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jay handal: Second, to the motion.

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jay handal: I will move the second.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, we lost Sema to, by the way.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So we still have quite without array.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Jim technically you're supposed to be recused.

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jay handal: To be recuse if Jim is recused and Sema has gone, then for this these two items we've lost quorum.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, so i'm sorry to jump in Jay actually.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And I don't see Sema here on the up she just came back in.

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jay handal: We have a motion, we have a second and we're going to public comment Robin.

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Robin: I don't understand how daffodil can be voting on this because it's coming from her committee, just as much as the other one is coming from my committee.

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Robin: Secondly, all of the questions you asked are completely answered there's a contract you don't have on the screen here the full submission, we made there is a vendor.

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Robin: With years of experience doing this for cities all across the world, I went on tours with other committee members in downtown la.

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Robin: That the, so there is a vendor what you're the ongoing it's completely stated and it's in the contract it's $500 a year ongoing that's an option it doesn't need to be exercised the notion that the neighborhood Council can undertake something like this seems really sad.

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jay handal: i've.

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jay handal: Gone I don't disagree with.

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Robin: This is something that is, it would be wonderful for the neighborhood Council to undertake it came out of both committees is the same concept, there are lots of people who think it would be.

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Robin: A great thing that for the neighborhood Council to do, and not for a private entity or some not for profit that we don't know what their.

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Robin: ideas are or whether they'll make it happen, this is a fully documented a.

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Robin: proposal and i've done several of these CIPS over the past several years and beautification grants, and this is absolutely has every detail in it so i'm really surprised and this notion that Jim has to recuse because i'm on this committee makes no sense.

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jay handal: So okay.

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Robin: If there were if there were because I was not given any opportunity, nor was my committee to to fix any of the flaws, to provide any other information, so I just think the way you're going about this is not to the benefit of the Community.

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jay handal: And you.

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jay handal: Probably the other.

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Daffodil Tyminski: day also has her hand raised and after cgs comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We can close public comment, if I can just have one point of information on the meeting I see Lisa redman has logged in as a speaker at Lisa we already handled your item.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And it was denied and I can talk to you about it later, but I just want to tell you, so you don't sit through this whole meeting waiting for your item to be called.

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Daffodil Tyminski: cj go ahead.

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CJ Cole: Oh.

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CJ Cole: Can you hear me.

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CJ Cole: Yes, oh sorry I never want you to my only thing unless you know this whole thing is a product.

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CJ Cole: And just this one, and all of them have everybody trying to rush at the last minute to do this.

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CJ Cole: And I think we all need to learn a lesson that you can't do it this way, these funds are available all year long the.

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CJ Cole: Proposals to people in at any point, through the year, but you know we're wasting hours of all of our time, because nobody did anything to literally the last minute that's all i'm saying thanks.

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jay handal: Any other speakers.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I know we've closed public comment, I have a comment on the motion myself when you want to call for it but.

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jay handal: Other than that good so let's take your comment and any other board comments and then we'll take the boat.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'm cj you're 1,000% correct and i'll leave it at that i'm Robin I am as well, very frustrated about it, I also did not know.

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Daffodil Tyminski: about these issues until yesterday so did not have the opportunity to fix anything I just think we just need to do it better moving forward, and you know engage with the city more as much as we can and get a straight answer so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I think they're great projects, I think it's perfect kind of thing for city to do for the reasons Robin stated, but I understand that it's going to fail so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'll support denying the projects.

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jay handal: And the other board members.

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jay handal: So as you're newly appointed temporary fraser, this is what i'm going to tell everybody.

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jay handal: If you wait until 1159 to order champagne for new years you're going to be drinking diet coke.

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jay handal: What you guys do is you wait till the last minute and try and spend your money.

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jay handal: The reality is you've got 12 months to spend your money, and if you don't spend it, you lose it and all these projects may have great merit.

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jay handal: But you need to have a dialogue with a treasurer during the year, who can ask the right questions help you build your packets, so that you will avoid these kinds of problems.

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jay handal: And if you do that you'll have a very smooth end of the year, without having a rush 10am meeting to be able to get something to a board, you know, the day before cut off.

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jay handal: So i'm just saying you know i've watched Venice work in the past, you know i've watched a lot of neighborhood Councils work in the past, and this is exactly how the majority of them work.

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jay handal: You know they get up to the very last minute, and they want to give $10,000 to Congress $5,000 to budget advocates and money to this charity and money to that school and they just start throwing money away, you know.

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jay handal: During the year is when you should be looking at all your NGOs and all the media organizations in your community that you can help.

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jay handal: Okay, including whether it's you know plaques on historic buildings or Apps you know the Apps could be really need is a nonprofit that come up.

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jay handal: You know if there's a Venice nonprofit it's all about Venice tie in with that nonprofit you know and let them build the APP and let them maintain the APP.

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jay handal: And then you won't have any of these problems so i'm only trying to get you through a very short period of time to get you whatever money is available to do this that's all.

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jay handal: And on that note, we have a motion and a second to deny.

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james murez: Is there anybody, excuse me Jay just for interrupting who made the motion.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Definitely, the motion.

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james murez: And who second is.

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jay handal: Jay handle.

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jay handal: So we have a motion and a second to deny, we have one recusal is there anybody abstaining.

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jay handal: Is there anybody against the denial.

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jay handal: Then those two items shall be been denied.

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jay handal: and taken off the list.

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jay handal: And you know, during the short period i'm here for all the makers of these these.

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jay handal: promotions, you know if they want to meet with me privately to talk about how to get these you know for the future i'm happy to help.

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jay handal: The next item is.

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jay handal: scrolling up the pickle ball course.

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jay handal: So.

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james murez: i'm going to rejoin the meeting now.

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james murez: i'll go ahead and make the motion.

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jay handal: Okay, so we have a motion to approve the papal bull courts do we have a second.

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jay handal: Going once.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Inside to approve.

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jay handal: To approve the pickle ball court motion.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Yes, I vote to second.

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jay handal: So we have a motion and a second, so we can open discussion.

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jay handal: So here's the issues with the pickle ball court.

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jay handal: Number one it's a contract.

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jay handal: And this won't happen for at least six months.

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jay handal: Just to you know.

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jay handal: Number two it may never happen at all because is who are the vendors what's the what's the breakdown of course.

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jay handal: You know, according to the packet I have and again i'm only going by the packet that I read page 10 permission for use of the property.

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jay handal: Multiple authorizations needed from various city agencies, so this project can be started in this fiscal year Okay, it will not get done, probably in the next fiscal year you don't even have permissions to do it at this point.

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jay handal: You know, to me it's not a case of denying it because it's a bad project.

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jay handal: Again, if you read page six vendor and materials, because this will be on the pen mar golf course this will be entirely dependent on the city, I have nothing from the city in this packet that says they approve anyone going on their property and doing an approved.

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jay handal: So, for that reason i'm recommending denying this project.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And we have some public comment there's a motion to approve it, we have some public comment on that why don't we take that first and then we can have board discussion Sarah go ahead.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: hi Sarah waters here, I have to, I have a question with regard to this, and then I wanted to ask a question when I was listening to Jay talk is that possible or is that out of line with.

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jay handal: If it's on this item, you can you can ask the question.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, when you buy them, you can.

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jay handal: You can ask it towards the end of the meeting for in a public comment.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, towards the end of the meeting you guys all have general public comments.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We already had general public comment in the beginning of the meeting.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I know, but I couldn't get signed in and I don't know why the zoom link wasn't working so I didn't I signed in I don't know like.

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jay handal: I will, I will be happy to take your question before we adjourn.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, thank you, I appreciate that um I just have a question I mean why pickle ball in in in that open space, I mean those those open spaces are really valuable to.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: For the trees and the biodiversity of those open spaces and I I I can't see the the rendering so I don't know where this pickle ball court is being conceived of but.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I would until I see that rendering i'd have to oppose it because i'm going to have to assume that they'll be pulling down trees and pulling out vegetation which.

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sarahrwauters@gmail.com: We sorely need our urban forest has been chopped down to the bone and the most recent years, so I would oppose it, unless I can see that no destruction of trees is occurring.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Sarah Robin go ahead.

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Robin: hi so um this like several others is possibly a great idea, but it seems that it's not at a stage where it is anywhere near being funded.

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Robin: reckon parks controls their property and yeah so one would have to have clearance from reckon parks and then they also have lots of money, including Mike bond and is sitting on $2 million of quimby funds.

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Robin: So you know, hopefully we'll have a new City Council person who will allow us to make improvements to our parks, but yeah This, I think this should be emotion to from neighborhood.

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Robin: To the board asking for support to go to reckon parks to ask for pickup ball, but I don't see that funding is needed at this time, or that it's identified in any way and then.

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Robin: Jay, as you said just giving away money to schools that's what you did on that first one, and that makes no sense that's all.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Thank you, Robin.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Do we have any board comment.

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Daffodil Tyminski: i'll just say, for all the reasons J stated this project is going to fail.

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Daffodil Tyminski: So as much as.

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jay handal: I do want to read something from page five of the application okay.

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jay handal: The funding requested is for preparation of the site, the laying of the playing surface a path to the courts and a fence around the courts.

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jay handal: Exactly how much each element of the build that will cost is unknown because one the layout has not been finalized, and to that area of the park.

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jay handal: will already be undergoing renovations and so it is not yet clear what is already in the works to be completed path fence, etc, so I think I think Robin nailed it.

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jay handal: You know this is not ready for prime time because until you have permission from the park from the city there's really nothing to talk about.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Right, I mean just to be clear, we need to prepare some things that are going to cost to get to the point, to get permission from the city.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Because they're already developing yeah they're already there's a project, are you going on there, so the idea was to fund.

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Daffodil Tyminski: What we need to get to the city, so they can improve us, but I understand procedurally this is now backwards so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: And by the way, the city had told me before they would fund this up to $10,000, which is why we did the application, but of course Now I understand it's a different story so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: As much as I want to support the project i'm going to vote to deny it, because the city is now saying they won't do it right.

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jay handal: Any other public coming.

487
00:54:54.570 --> 00:54:59.460
jay handal: Seeing none we're going to move on the emotion, the emotion is to approve.

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jay handal: So keep that in mind, a yes vote is approval and no vote is denial is not to approve, we can then do a motion to deny should you want to do that so motion to approve all those abstaining.

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jay handal: All those against approving the project raise your hand on the screen.

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jay handal: I got 1234 Ivan how are you voting.

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Ivan: yeah i'm trying to hang on.

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jay handal: Is raise your hand.

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Daffodil Tyminski: raise your hand let.

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Ivan: me get my hair.

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Ivan: Your hand.

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jay handal: Your physical hand.

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Ivan: Okay, I got oh.

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Ivan: OK.

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jay handal: OK flow which anonymous the project is not approve, I think we can leave let it go at that.

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jay handal: The next item is to.

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jay handal: reallocate.

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jay handal: So I have to be honest and say I don't know on reallocating what your current allocations are because I don't have access, yet to.

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jay handal: The portal, what I can do is I should have it in three days when I get it, I can look and see where we voted today, and your monies need to be moved, we can do a I would, I would ask to move to allow me to bring it to the board.

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jay handal: directly with a recommendation to adjust the budget according to expenditures.

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james murez: yeah I would I would go along with that, I just want to understand now so better so you understand this, these were both the both 18 and 19 were brought up in a previous meeting and they were just estimations because we didn't have the mre at that point.

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james murez: And and i'm wondering if with the available.

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james murez: record, you would be making.

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james murez: To the budget adjustments, whether or not we also want to entertain the idea of taking $10,000 and carrying it over for next year.

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jay handal: So that's in the administrative packet.

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jay handal: that we need to do next.

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Okay.

512
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jay handal: So if if I could get someone to make a motion to allow me to bring full adjustments to the board directly based on.

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jay handal: having access to the portal.

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james murez: yeah i'll make that motion.

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Daffodil Tyminski: it's definite last second it.

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jay handal: is very public comment on that motion.

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00:57:47.070 --> 00:57:51.030
jay handal: Seeing non public comment as close anybody standing net motion.

518
00:57:53.070 --> 00:57:54.540
jay handal: Anybody against that much.

519
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jay handal: Then that motion will pass unanimously.

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jay handal: Okay, so that takes care of the budget adjustments in the line I reallocating line items.

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jay handal: Number 15 is budget adjustments we're going to do the same that's part of that whole thing.

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jay handal: And then we have, I think our last item oh.

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james murez: Good i'm trying to keep up here anyway okay i'll come back and fix that in a minute.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Here i'm just getting some coffee.

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jay handal: So if you could scan all the way back to the budget packet.

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jay handal: I think it was the first item on the agenda.

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james murez: There it is.

528
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:41.700
jay handal: Okay, so.

529
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jay handal: Everybody should have seen the 2022 2023 administrative packet.

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james murez: Would you like to share your screen with that, just so we have it in our recording.

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jay handal: I have it in hard copy I don't have this on this computer electronically.

532
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:02.760
jay handal: Fortunately, but I do have.

533
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jay handal: I do have some questions we have to.

534
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jay handal: decide today.

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james murez: Let me stop sharing and see if I can quickly find it in my email and then bring it up okay perfect.

536
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jay handal: Who will be the second signer.

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Daffodil Tyminski: It staff it'll I am the second letter.

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jay handal: Okay.

539
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jay handal: And that will remain the same daffodil will you be the first card holder.

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Daffodil Tyminski: I have never had a card i'm i'm happy to do whatever you prefer it may make sense if you're a temporary so for the next year, we have.

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Daffodil Tyminski: um you know consistency.

542
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jay handal: Right i'm just to be clear, I cannot be the cardholder Okay, I am the card holder for West la and you can hold two cards.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, and Sema also is probably a cardholder should be a cardholder because most of.

544
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Daffodil Tyminski: What i've.

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Sima Kostovetsky: ever been so i'm wondering if there's a wave because everybody comes to me for copies everybody comes to me for flyers etc.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah.

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james murez: So my only my only question with that is is.

548
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james murez: Is there any requirement.

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james murez: To get city approvals on things before credit cards are used.

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jay handal: yeah, it has to be in your budget.

551
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james murez: It has to be in the budget and, and so we have to make sure that anybody who has the card always checks that the budget amounts are being followed.

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james murez: And in the past, because it's always been the treasurer that's never been a problem.

553
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james murez: That will mean that both daffodil and Sema have to always keep in sync with whatever the budget is and i'm just pointing that out because we've had a lot of problems this past year.

554
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james murez: In in getting invoices and getting approvals prior to expenses being spent and that's caused a tremendous amount of difficulty for both vendors, as well as the board.

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jay handal: Right so again when someone brings up nobody should be spending anything, unless it is actually in the line item of the budget, so, if you look at page eight of the packet that I sent you.

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james murez: And i'm just bringing that up on the screen now.

557
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jay handal: Okay, so scroll the page eight.

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james murez: i'm going slowly, so the video has a chance to record.

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No problem.

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james murez: By the way, thank you for doing this, this is the first time i've ever seen one of these so nicely done.

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jay handal: At my job, keep you out of trouble.

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james murez: We like that.

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jay handal: All right, one more page.

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jay handal: Okay, so AJ.

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jay handal: you'll see annual budget funds 32,000 roll over phones 10,000 total budget 42,000.

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jay handal: operational expenses, these are the exact same expenses, this is what you had last year, and your budget.

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jay handal: Roughly.

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jay handal: On a bunch of office supplies 100 bucks for copies 500 for office equipment web maintenance your your apple one you know you've minute taker your storage facility in general operations and you refresh that totals $11,700 please scroll to the next page.

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Daffodil Tyminski: We probably need to adjust that, by the way.

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jay handal: Well, let let me go through and we'll talk about that outreach expenditures copies and printing 800 advertising promotion 1500 town halls 3000 Congress in neighborhoods 500 general outreach 4000.

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jay handal: And web upgrades 1000 for a total of 10,800 going down further election materials advertising and events I plugged in 15,000.

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jay handal: neighborhood purpose grants 2000 and Community improvement projects 2500 so who was that daffodils who came in and said yes may need to adjust it.

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Daffodil Tyminski: yeah I see, we can probably speak to it more directly, but we do have some X, we have in the past been underfunding some outreach stuff so.

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Daffodil Tyminski: went through this.

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jay handal: This is my suggestion to everybody Okay, this is a placeholder budget to make sure in July, you get your 42,000.

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jay handal: This budget can be amended at any given board meeting special or regular.

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jay handal: The outreach committee should sit down and put together a plan and bring it back to the board and say this is how we plan to spend our money.

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jay handal: We need more money for outreach the board can then decide what category, they want to take the money from and adjusted accordingly at that board me.

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jay handal: This is not a packet to everybody get into the nitty gritty This is basically mirroring pretty much what you had except with elections and the elections, by the way of based on your past history of 15,000 that's what you guys spend and a big chunk of that is outreach.

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jay handal: and working together with the.

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jay handal: Election yeah.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I may so I actually submitted my budget and knowing that may is is a pretty heavy month for budget, so I actually submitted my budget based on last year's administrative packet.

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Sima Kostovetsky: And I have an itemized in an email that I sent to our former treasure.

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Sima Kostovetsky: And I need $2,000 more This is because we are anticipating having some in person meetings so, for example, the refreshments need to go up for in person meeting.

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Sima Kostovetsky: My advertising and promotions needs to go up and my town halls need to go up, as well as my general outreach i'm happy to share my screen to show you how I itemized it again, it was based on last year's packet so I just asked for $2,000 more.

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jay handal: Human capital can you bring me up to that category.

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james murez: On your phone yeah Okay, I was gonna go back to letting her share hers but that's fine.

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Sima Kostovetsky: And and, if I may just a point of clarification, one of the ways that we tend to get in trouble, or at least I do.

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Sima Kostovetsky: That, I have a general let's say general outreach $4,000 That is my budget to support all of the committee's so, for example, if I want to make.

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Sima Kostovetsky: An outreach banner budget that's just generic for the dnc and it costs $300 that should come out of my general outreach budget right i'm very cognizant of how much money, I have.

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jay handal: Great so.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I don't need board approval for that Am I correct.

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jay handal: Well, what you do need board approval for is for the actual expenditure, if you don't in these categories, if you don't have specific vendors and amounts like like.

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jay handal: For existence West la we have frontier telephone, we have an office, so we have frontier telephone and frontier DSL frontier is named in the outreach expenditure.

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jay handal: Okay, we do our printing with phantom printing so phantom printing is in the expenditure so if I have $5,000 in printing from phantom I can spend $5,000 and not have to come back to the board.

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jay handal: But if I just say printing I now have to come back with a pro forma invoice from a vendor to get the board to approve the expenditure.

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Sima Kostovetsky: So I need to be specific, with my two vendors for something like that.

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jay handal: All right.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Okay, but also, but that also could be copying correct so that's a staples vendor or that's a.

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Sima Kostovetsky: letter kinko's.

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jay handal: One yeah pick one and that's where you're going you.

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Usually.

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Sima Kostovetsky: These are just placeholders correct.

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jay handal: doing all these numbers you're seeing here ought to get you your $42,000 in July, if you don't pass an administrative packet and I don't have a file by June in June, then you get $300 a month.

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jay handal: So you know it's it's punish the good people, so you know I love provolone cheese, but it's flat, but I really love Swiss cheese because it's got a lot of holes and I look for the holes, I can get through to get me what I need so.

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jay handal: The whole here.

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jay handal: Is it just past the budget with the administrative package, and you can always come back and say, Mr treasurer.

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jay handal: You know we're going to the board, I have a budget meeting, I want to amend the budget to do listen that net.

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jay handal: And then we look at all the other categories and go Okay, I think we can steal it from Community improvement or we can take some of it from.

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jay handal: You know here, you know other outreach monies or whatever printing and advertising or whatever.

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jay handal: You know, you can move those around you can move those categories around anytime during the year you know, but you got to have a budget into the city.

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jay handal: So you get your money in July and that's all i'm advocating here, you know you may be 100% right on your numbers of what you know you need.

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jay handal: But for today because I didn't have any of those numbers for today's budget meeting all I want to do is pass this packet get it to the board, let the board pass it.

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jay handal: i'll file it and then i'll work with you to amend the budget so that in July, you know, maybe my last meeting with you guys if that's the case you know we can make a motion to make adjustments to the budget and then get them down to the city.

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jay handal: that's all i'm saying.

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james murez: see my what he's saying makes perfect sense to me, we can fix it later let's just get through this now.

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Daffodil Tyminski: Hema you're on you.

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Daffodil Tyminski: you're still muted.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I still need my extra $2,000 because I submitted that for this purpose.

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jay handal: Okay, so same if you could send me your email with all a breakdown, because I haven't seen it, you know i'd be happy to look at the other numbers and see you know where that 2000 can come from.

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jay handal: You know.

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james murez: But it expedited if she just shares her screen at this point.

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Sima Kostovetsky: and happy to do that.

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james murez: You can just go ahead and do it, I can either stop or you can just take over sharing.

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jay handal: yeah I mean i'm looking at what was done last year and operations, you know you had 3500 in web maintenance.

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james murez: And I don't remember what the Web things costing us I.

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james murez: But 3500 seems like a hell of a lot and the apple one staffing, we did not do it all in the previous year, so if you want to just grab that apple one staffing you could take 2000 out of there without any problem at all yeah.

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jay handal: I mean you know we.

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james murez: Use we use know apple one staffing and I see no reason at this point that we will going forward unless for some reason we have to respond to a cpr a request that requires a tremendous amount of redacting.

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jay handal: So i'm going to change apple one staffing to 1000.

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james murez: And there's there's her budget on screen Sema can you enlarge at it all zoom in on it so it's a little bit bigger.

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jay handal: same way, do you want that 2000.

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jay handal: Town Hall.

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jay handal: Sound Jose.

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Sima Kostovetsky: arison of what you put up um so I I don't but you could see the meetings refreshments that went up that's $900 my general outreach went up by 1000 that was $5,000 i'm i'm so sorry I can't see, I have yours, on the other, screen, let me see if I can see where that's coming out of.

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Sima Kostovetsky: But it was mainly that some of it was refreshments and then also making allowances for live meetings in general outreach.

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james murez: Well, and i'm not sure why you have web upgrades in there that are just becoming under the other category above.

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james murez: I outreach is not making upgrades to the.

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james murez: To the website and.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I get that I wanted to give myself a little bit of extra cushion because we're the ones that get yelled out for.

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james murez: yeah but you're not.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Great site.

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james murez: I understand, but it won't come out of your budget that you shouldn't have anything in there at all for web upgrades That would be a communications item, and that would go through vicki and and.

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james murez: You could certainly make the recommendations and do the work, but the actual budget item would come from the Communications Committee or the communications chair, I should say.

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Sima Kostovetsky: i'm happy to let that go that'll put me down a.

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Sima Kostovetsky: $12,000 only give us 1200 dollars extra.

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jay handal: here's what i've done if everyone can just go with me for a second.

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jay handal: Let me finish.

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01:13:13.590 --> 01:13:16.650
jay handal: A mile away allocating $12,800.

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jay handal: As per what you have on your sheet samer.

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jay handal: Thank you i've moved so go back Jim to the sheet that I sent you outreach expenditures.

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jay handal: I have adjusted my copy.

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jay handal: As follows tell me when you will know, when you're ready i'll look.

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jay handal: Is when I wish I had that jeopardy, you know that.

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james murez: it's up.

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jay handal: Alright, so copy BA BA BA BA BA BA BA BA outreach expenditures not not operational go to the next one.

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james murez: hold on one, second, let me make the 10 a little bit lighter and then I can mark it up.

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Okay.

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jay handal: Good go to the next Friday, though, so it's going to be the following copies and printing 800 advertising promotion 1700 town halls 4000 Congress 500 general outreach 5000 web upgrades 800 and refreshments 900 for a total of 12,800.

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01:14:35.910 --> 01:14:39.270
james murez: This is not the best way to mark this up, but.

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01:14:39.330 --> 01:14:40.170
jay handal: it's like okay.

662
01:14:41.490 --> 01:14:43.890
jay handal: So what that means.

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Sima Kostovetsky: And i'm very generous as people know so if we need to do, money we need if I need to give money to something that's.

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Sima Kostovetsky: You know, comes up.

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jay handal: Right.

666
01:15:03.960 --> 01:15:05.040
Sima Kostovetsky: Fine, was sharing.

667
01:15:05.340 --> 01:15:07.980
jay handal: So what what i'm doing Ivan.

668
01:15:08.670 --> 01:15:10.740
jay handal: And every Ivan in particular is you.

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jay handal: tend to be doing.

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jay handal: elections.

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jay handal: Is I took.

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01:15:18.120 --> 01:15:21.720
jay handal: 2000 from elections, elections are now.

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01:15:28.260 --> 01:15:39.930
jay handal: Bearing in mind that you know you have a lot of money in outreach and printing that you might be able to commingle your guys using some of that for election as well.

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jay handal: But so taking that and that's it you're balanced you balanced and $42,000 you have a budget to present see most should be happy Ivan should be pissed and everyone goes on.

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Daffodil Tyminski: you're muted Sema.

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Sima Kostovetsky: Ivan are you okay with that because wait.

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01:15:59.880 --> 01:16:04.140
Sima Kostovetsky: sorry about what Jim suggested about taking money out of apple one.

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Ivan: So you saying I don't.

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01:16:10.320 --> 01:16:11.850
Ivan: I don't know if i'm doing it again.

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01:16:12.990 --> 01:16:14.310
jay handal: is another story by.

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01:16:15.510 --> 01:16:26.550
Ivan: them so i'm trying to increase your page until they give us the details it's really hard to plan anything you know, are we going to be in person.

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01:16:28.110 --> 01:16:37.800
Ivan: You know other polls, is going to be open on election day is it going to be all vote by mail, yet I mean until they give us the guidelines, how do you budget for it.

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james murez: Well we'll adjust will adjust the funding, later on, at this point, I think we just want to get through this we're into this meeting over an hour, if we can get through this the meeting is over.

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jay handal: So again, what i'm going to do is.

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jay handal: i'm going to take 1000 i'm going to get rid of the apple one completely.

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01:17:05.940 --> 01:17:08.250
jay handal: And office and operational.

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01:17:11.370 --> 01:17:18.300
jay handal: So that's going to be gone and then going to add 1000 back into.

688
01:17:20.160 --> 01:17:23.670
jay handal: Election so you get 14,000 so you can only be half past that.

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01:17:24.810 --> 01:17:27.480
james murez: So i'm not you'll have to send that to me because I don't.

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01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:32.460
jay handal: i'm going to scan it and send it to everybody yeah because you asked me, by now, so I just.

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jay handal: Okay, so let's let's recap real quick and then we're done so going down through the pages first thing i'm going to need is daffodil and Sema you guys are going to have to email me your actual name your board position your email and your phone number, so I can fill those in fun the sheets.

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jay handal: Secondly.

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jay handal: we're going to look at the expenditures so.

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jay handal: Both office operational will be 8700.

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jay handal: OK that 100 for office supplies 100 for copies 500 for office equipment 3500 for wait web maintenance 3800 for storage 400 for general operations 304 refreshments.

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jay handal: So I have refreshments in two different places guys I have it under general and then I have it under outreach So the question is, do you need it in both places or can I eliminate the 300 in office operational.

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01:18:42.840 --> 01:18:46.410
james murez: Why don't you take it out of the office operations and put it into the outreach budget.

698
01:18:48.300 --> 01:18:52.110
jay handal: Okay, because I already put 900 in as per request.

699
01:18:52.140 --> 01:18:55.320
james murez: yeah we'll still have extra we'll figure it out later will readjust more.

700
01:18:55.410 --> 01:18:58.050
james murez: Okay smiling which, which is his good side.

701
01:18:58.740 --> 01:19:01.200
jay handal: Alright, so i'm going to make that one.

702
01:19:02.880 --> 01:19:05.460
jay handal: And this is why I do everything in pencil.

703
01:19:08.190 --> 01:19:08.670
jay handal: Okay.

704
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Ivan: So.

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All right.

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Ivan: Great.

707
01:19:12.540 --> 01:19:24.990
Ivan: yeah there's one other item on Monday shirts included if we and again we don't know yet, but if we go back to live meetings, we have to pay for Rentals school.

708
01:19:26.010 --> 01:19:26.640
jay handal: Right.

709
01:19:29.460 --> 01:19:31.200
jay handal: So you've got.

710
01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:37.020
jay handal: you've got $4,000 in there for town halls.

711
01:19:38.160 --> 01:19:40.890
jay handal: Okay, different and.

712
01:19:41.070 --> 01:19:42.570
Ivan: You have right Sema.

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01:19:45.450 --> 01:19:45.930
And you had.

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01:19:46.980 --> 01:19:50.190
jay handal: $5,000 in Nam for general outreach.

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01:19:54.450 --> 01:19:54.870
jay handal: So.

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james murez: That, I think we should probably assume that whatever we're doing now is going to be done and need adjustments.

717
01:20:04.200 --> 01:20:05.010
jay handal: hundred percent.

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01:20:05.070 --> 01:20:11.430
james murez: And if we go back to live meetings, the city's already made it fairly clear that those live meetings are going to be hybrids.

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james murez: And if we do a hybrid meaning we're going to need equipment to be able to do the hybrid meetings.

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james murez: And that's going to cost us a few thousand dollars we're going to have to figure these things out later guys we don't have all the details now.

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james murez: We have no clue what the city is going to throw at us let's get through this thing the way that Jay has proposed it and adjust it once we know more.

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james murez: In the meantime, we have no major expenses coming up for the next month or two, we have no town hall meetings or anything else, after the election, there may be reasons to do another.

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james murez: Candidate forum or or some other kind of event that we want to do, based on where the run offs are going to occur, and who we want to hear from.

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james murez: So these are issues that will come up in the future we don't need to hear about them now, we don't have to figure out every detail let's just get out of let's get done and and adjust at once we have the detail.

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james murez: that's my that's my suggestion.

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01:21:06.570 --> 01:21:19.050
jay handal: And again, I keep telling you guys, this is a placeholder budget, you know you guys, as you get into the year just like we did today, you know we're going to have to move stuff around.

727
01:21:19.770 --> 01:21:27.390
jay handal: You know so that's just something that's going to happen it happens in every neighborhood Council so yes Sema.

728
01:21:27.750 --> 01:21:37.950
Sima Kostovetsky: So, forgive me i'm jumping a little bit I just don't know where to ask this question, but to jim's point about buying equipment for hybrid meetings where the Budget Committee correct.

729
01:21:38.400 --> 01:21:44.040
Sima Kostovetsky: and clearly we have money left over for the end of the year, I know you're saying, not to rush that this is coming up in our meeting.

730
01:21:44.610 --> 01:21:58.620
Sima Kostovetsky: Is that something that we can approve for this year, so we have the equipment if we're going to start having hybrid meetings, because that's pretty much I think whether that happens in the winter, or in the fall it's a done deal so i'm.

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Sima Kostovetsky: I don't know if i'm asking this in the right place, but it just seems to me in an election year we're not going to have money for that.

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jay handal: So let's do this let's vote on the packet.

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jay handal: And then let's go back to.

734
01:22:13.320 --> 01:22:35.370
jay handal: Your question because it's about timing and vendors and amounts and equipment, you know, and we can talk about that real quick, but so i'm going to ask someone to make a motion to approve the amended budget and I will send it all out to you after I get back until i'm seeing most information.

735
01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:37.170
james murez: This is Jim and i'll make the motion.

736
01:22:37.950 --> 01:22:40.830
jay handal: So I got a most most him by murata second by.

737
01:22:41.100 --> 01:22:44.340
jay handal: email Saima is there any public comment.

738
01:22:46.710 --> 01:22:47.520
Daffodil Tyminski: I seen on.

739
01:22:48.750 --> 01:22:52.680
jay handal: Public comment is closed, we will take the boat Is there anyone abstaining.

740
01:22:54.120 --> 01:22:57.060
jay handal: Is there anyone against moving this forward to the board.

741
01:22:58.350 --> 01:23:02.550
jay handal: Then that budget packet is approved, thank you guys.

742
01:23:05.070 --> 01:23:10.800
jay handal: Painful by new thought so let's go back now and talk about.

743
01:23:12.690 --> 01:23:15.390
jay handal: seamless question you know.

744
01:23:18.240 --> 01:23:20.040
jay handal: The issue, the issue is.

745
01:23:21.450 --> 01:23:32.010
jay handal: If if I get the p card quickly and you guys can identify a vendor and the equipment, you want.

746
01:23:33.030 --> 01:23:43.140
jay handal: I can ask the city to increase my spending limit, because the truth of the matter is, you have 28,000 less than 10,000 less the school.

747
01:23:44.010 --> 01:23:44.610
james murez: So you got to.

748
01:23:45.120 --> 01:23:45.420
james murez: Save.

749
01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:52.500
jay handal: By 5000 which was fine so there's 15,000 at a 28 so you're going to lose $13,000.

750
01:23:53.040 --> 01:24:02.910
james murez: And so to that point, I could put together the equipment list to do hybrid meetings, based on my understanding of what video would be required.

751
01:24:04.440 --> 01:24:06.840
james murez: In probably before the end of the day.

752
01:24:07.500 --> 01:24:14.790
jay handal: So if you can do that and and identify where we would buy it from and what the cost will be.

753
01:24:15.150 --> 01:24:31.320
jay handal: yeah, then I can ask the city, when I get the p card to increase my expenditure limit and we can put that on as a special at the board meeting a special expenditure for this year okay.

754
01:24:31.770 --> 01:24:38.010
Daffodil Tyminski: Jay it's daffodil our communications officer, is in the audience and she this is really her area.

755
01:24:39.060 --> 01:24:40.230
Daffodil Tyminski: um so.

756
01:24:40.470 --> 01:24:42.300
james murez: yeah why don't we get her to speak to it if she.

757
01:24:42.300 --> 01:24:44.670
Daffodil Tyminski: has she has her hand she has her hand raise so.

758
01:24:44.760 --> 01:24:48.510
Daffodil Tyminski: that's vicki holiday vicki why don't you go ahead and give us a sense.

759
01:24:48.810 --> 01:24:49.710
Vicki Halliday: Am I unmuted.

760
01:24:49.950 --> 01:24:58.800
Vicki Halliday: Yes, you are unmuted I think this merits a little bit of internal discussion before this goes to budget, I know that Jim and I differ on how this hybrid.

761
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:08.370
Vicki Halliday: equipment should work um and I think that, I mean if you want to put in just a general number for whatever we have great.

762
01:25:08.880 --> 01:25:19.830
Vicki Halliday: But I do not want to be cut out of this process, as I have been supporting this budget meeting with everybody saying oh we're going to do this or that know this this myriad some discussion and I demand it.

763
01:25:23.190 --> 01:25:24.240
Vicki Halliday: that's all I have to say.

764
01:25:24.510 --> 01:25:25.530
jay handal: Well okay.

765
01:25:25.710 --> 01:25:28.260
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, so now is the time right to discuss or.

766
01:25:28.410 --> 01:25:34.470
Vicki Halliday: Well, we can't discuss the equipment this very minute daffodil that's what i'm saying, I think that there's a differing of opinion.

767
01:25:35.160 --> 01:25:48.390
Vicki Halliday: On what equipment is needed, and how it would be used if you've got a budget number that you just want to swat into cover that great, but I don't think now is the time or the place to be discussing equipment when.

768
01:25:48.450 --> 01:25:51.120
Vicki Halliday: The situation in general has not been discussed.

769
01:25:51.180 --> 01:26:03.570
jay handal: Okay, so no nobody here is discussing equipment, let me be clear my Directive as treasurer to the committee, and especially to you and to miss the miras.

770
01:26:04.200 --> 01:26:17.790
jay handal: Is you have a limited amount of time, if you want to buy equipment for next year's meetings, out of this year's $13,000 that's going back to the city.

771
01:26:18.570 --> 01:26:28.410
jay handal: You need to get the equipment with you need to get a pro forma invoice from the vendor and they have to be able to take a debit card.

772
01:26:29.070 --> 01:26:50.670
jay handal: And then I have to get approval for a one time, increase of limit on the card, so we can spend it and not lose the money and get the equipment, if you guys can't get together in the next couple of days and do that, then the city will get their $13,000 back it's just that cool.

773
01:26:51.240 --> 01:26:51.840
Vicki Halliday: Thank you Jay.

774
01:26:52.110 --> 01:26:52.560
Okay.

775
01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:57.960
james murez: Good jake could you just repeat, so it was the equipment list of pro forma invoice what was that, after that.

776
01:26:59.550 --> 01:27:02.160
jay handal: I need a pro forma invoice from the vendor.

777
01:27:02.340 --> 01:27:02.640
james murez: yep.

778
01:27:02.730 --> 01:27:06.960
jay handal: Oh, that I can then go back to the city, they have to be able to take a credit card.

779
01:27:07.380 --> 01:27:22.860
jay handal: Okay, credit card, and then I can go back to the city and asked for an increase in the limit on the spending card so, then I can get the card swipe it and get the product on this year's budget.

780
01:27:23.100 --> 01:27:25.170
james murez: Do you happen to know what the limit is at present.

781
01:27:25.680 --> 01:27:27.060
jay handal: Oh no limits low it's like.

782
01:27:28.500 --> 01:27:29.340
james murez: thousand bucks.

783
01:27:29.400 --> 01:27:36.990
jay handal: Like 1500 bucks or something like that, but you know they'll increase it to $20,000 if I have to you know for equipment.

784
01:27:37.380 --> 01:27:38.640
Sima Kostovetsky: Okay Jay.

785
01:27:39.030 --> 01:27:41.190
Sima Kostovetsky: If I may i'm sorry go ahead.

786
01:27:41.760 --> 01:27:47.310
Daffodil Tyminski: No, I was gonna say two things one Jim why don't you mean vicki and Sema get together on this, so we have.

787
01:27:47.580 --> 01:27:48.930
Daffodil Tyminski: A consensus on the equipment.

788
01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:55.110
Daffodil Tyminski: um and to Jay I think there's a couple of other things too that we do need.

789
01:27:56.310 --> 01:28:02.010
Daffodil Tyminski: Like, for example, our outreach table is an extremely rickety table with two very uncomfortable chairs.

790
01:28:03.540 --> 01:28:14.760
Daffodil Tyminski: We need a banner right seem I don't know that that yeah so we have a little list of things that we can obviously pull together very quickly and get you this information, but.

791
01:28:16.380 --> 01:28:21.030
Daffodil Tyminski: You know just expect that in addition to asking for some money for equipment there's some other.

792
01:28:21.180 --> 01:28:25.350
Daffodil Tyminski: Just necessities, that we have been planning on doing for months it just hasn't been done yet.

793
01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:36.210
jay handal: Right, so any of those expenditures that are not specifically spelled out in the current year budget, you will need to have one the board meeting that we have next week.

794
01:28:37.800 --> 01:28:39.960
james murez: Okay, so is the idea that we.

795
01:28:41.670 --> 01:28:44.370
james murez: Take that money out of this year spending.

796
01:28:44.370 --> 01:28:45.480
jay handal: Yes, yeah.

797
01:28:45.540 --> 01:28:53.370
james murez: yeah so that we don't have to submit a performer invoice if we already have the budget item listed is that my understanding.

798
01:28:54.330 --> 01:28:56.760
jay handal: You don't have the budget item listed.

799
01:28:56.790 --> 01:28:58.500
jay handal: For equipment for.

800
01:28:59.520 --> 01:29:02.940
jay handal: You know, online or hybrid meets.

801
01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:12.390
james murez: No, no i'm saying for a banner for table for these other things, how much how much detail had has to be provided to approve those at the board meeting.

802
01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:22.020
jay handal: So if if you have banners in your out current outreach budget, then you can buy them if you don't, then it has to be approved by the board.

803
01:29:22.500 --> 01:29:22.800
So.

804
01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:26.670
Sima Kostovetsky: This is where we get confused.

805
01:29:26.850 --> 01:29:46.920
Sima Kostovetsky: I have money left over in my budget under general outreach I should be able to just buy a $250 banner with that because we use phantom as well, so you know we either use phantom or super fast that's always been our vendors, as long as i've been in you know in this position.

806
01:29:47.130 --> 01:29:56.700
Sima Kostovetsky: Right that's where it gets confusing because which, like like if it's under my general budget and it's a $250 item to I have to still ask the board.

807
01:29:56.940 --> 01:30:11.040
jay handal: So, generally, what the city says is, if you just have general outreach dollars, when you are ready to spend it, you have to identify the vendor and the amount.

808
01:30:12.390 --> 01:30:12.750
Sima Kostovetsky: got it.

809
01:30:13.500 --> 01:30:18.990
jay handal: So i'm looking i'm looking strictly at an abundance of caution right now.

810
01:30:19.410 --> 01:30:24.030
jay handal: Because we're at the wire and I don't want them rejecting anything and holding your money.

811
01:30:24.600 --> 01:30:28.320
Sima Kostovetsky: I will I that'll be ready by within the next 24.

812
01:30:28.350 --> 01:30:28.980
jay handal: hours and.

813
01:30:29.820 --> 01:30:37.020
Sima Kostovetsky: If I just make clarify this wasn't meant to step on vicki's toes because obviously vicki and I work very closely together.

814
01:30:37.350 --> 01:30:38.310
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm just.

815
01:30:38.850 --> 01:30:39.390
Sima Kostovetsky: that's all.

816
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:46.920
Daffodil Tyminski: I was just about to say vicki also has her hand raised and she has is also probably in need of something here for communications and.

817
01:30:47.280 --> 01:30:49.650
Daffodil Tyminski: Give me one second guys I need to step off for one SEC.

818
01:30:51.450 --> 01:30:52.170
james murez: Go ahead vicki.

819
01:30:53.130 --> 01:30:54.900
Vicki Halliday: Know i've got nothing.

820
01:30:56.160 --> 01:30:56.610
jay handal: Okay.

821
01:30:57.090 --> 01:30:59.070
james murez: So where's your where's your hand up for something else.

822
01:30:59.280 --> 01:31:01.020
Vicki Halliday: I didn't take it down from before Jim.

823
01:31:01.140 --> 01:31:02.250
james murez: Not a problem, thank you.

824
01:31:02.910 --> 01:31:11.130
jay handal: So the bottom line, you have some money to spend and you have more flexibility in time with the p card providers oh my.

825
01:31:11.130 --> 01:31:11.460
God.

826
01:31:13.440 --> 01:31:22.170
jay handal: You know, so you know let's try and spend down some of that $13,000 so you don't lose it all.

827
01:31:23.400 --> 01:31:30.270
Daffodil Tyminski: Can Can I make a motion for the Budget Committee to approve the expenditure of remaining money left in the budget, on item.

828
01:31:31.980 --> 01:31:32.820
jay handal: not on the agenda.

829
01:31:34.980 --> 01:31:35.370
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay.

830
01:31:35.730 --> 01:31:43.740
jay handal: Not only agenda you can do it, but again, we can bring it to the board as a the most.

831
01:31:45.900 --> 01:31:46.170
Daffodil Tyminski: You know.

832
01:31:46.260 --> 01:31:48.870
james murez: hey, let me just ask a question about that we do have.

833
01:31:49.140 --> 01:31:52.740
james murez: an item farther down on the agenda that we called reallocating the budget.

834
01:31:53.310 --> 01:32:00.660
james murez: Right so would that answer daffodils ability to be able to to address the items that she wants to reallocate it to.

835
01:32:02.340 --> 01:32:04.920
jay handal: Well, it would it would address the the.

836
01:32:06.330 --> 01:32:15.060
jay handal: categories that you're allocating in the budget it won't address an individual item, you know, like phantom printing.

837
01:32:15.750 --> 01:32:18.660
Daffodil Tyminski: It doesn't make a difference, though, because it would have to go to the board anyway.

838
01:32:18.780 --> 01:32:22.410
Daffodil Tyminski: Right, so if if we're as a committee, deciding that we will.

839
01:32:23.490 --> 01:32:31.140
Daffodil Tyminski: allow ourselves to be bypassed for these remaining expenditures, then you know we'd have to discuss it with the board anyway so it's fine.

840
01:32:31.920 --> 01:32:38.070
jay handal: Right, I mean bottom line is you got 13 grand to spend and you're running out of time, so.

841
01:32:39.840 --> 01:32:45.750
james murez: Well we'll have one more board meeting and that's it assuming we can get a quorum in between now and.

842
01:32:46.440 --> 01:32:59.700
james murez: Tuesday at noon, I was assuming that was the cut off, so we still had time to submit the paperwork on Tuesday that leaves us four hours, I guess, to submit whatever paperwork comes out of a board meeting if we had a morning meeting on Tuesday.

843
01:33:02.100 --> 01:33:04.470
james murez: That divine bear that give us enough.

844
01:33:04.470 --> 01:33:10.800
jay handal: Time yeah well that's your maximum I mean truthfully i'd like to see you guys have a board meeting Monday.

845
01:33:11.190 --> 01:33:12.030
jay handal: Right setting a.

846
01:33:12.420 --> 01:33:16.200
james murez: national holiday and i'm not sure we'll get corn, but we're still working on, I hear ya.

847
01:33:16.500 --> 01:33:16.830
worries.

848
01:33:18.180 --> 01:33:29.010
jay handal: I have to scan in you know and and open up a new vendor, and I mean the things I need to do in the portal, in order to get what we did today hey.

849
01:33:29.670 --> 01:33:33.990
jay handal: OK OK, now the good news is, we only approved, I think one project today.

850
01:33:34.470 --> 01:33:38.190
jay handal: Correct so the board only has to approve one project.

851
01:33:39.030 --> 01:33:41.460
james murez: And, and the end the next year's budget which.

852
01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:42.240
james murez: Again, is.

853
01:33:42.450 --> 01:33:43.830
jay handal: The administrative package.

854
01:33:43.890 --> 01:33:47.820
james murez: Right, which is just basically a placeholder like you said yeah.

855
01:33:48.210 --> 01:33:50.070
james murez: So that that that should be fairly quick.

856
01:33:50.310 --> 01:33:57.840
james murez: And then, and then any of these other budget items that we want to do, whether it's a hybrid meeting stuffer banners for outreach whatever tables whatever.

857
01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:07.470
james murez: yeah so that shouldn't be and will you help me out after the meeting and and tell me how I write that.

858
01:34:09.150 --> 01:34:16.530
james murez: agenda item up, so it goes on the budget correctly so so the budget item gets put on the board with the correct wording so we.

859
01:34:17.610 --> 01:34:21.660
james murez: That we that we're doing stuff at the board meeting, rather than at the budget meeting.

860
01:34:22.110 --> 01:34:27.810
jay handal: Right okay yeah I can I can draft you a template motion.

861
01:34:27.990 --> 01:34:35.100
jay handal: perfect and just send it over to you and then whatever items you get you can fill in the below.

862
01:34:35.460 --> 01:34:38.130
jay handal: fill in the blank so we'll do one motion.

863
01:34:38.460 --> 01:34:44.460
jay handal: It says approval by the board for existing funds outstanding and the annual budget for the following items.

864
01:34:44.760 --> 01:34:46.980
jay handal: Okay banners phantom printing.

865
01:34:47.130 --> 01:34:48.630
james murez: $400 okay.

866
01:34:48.750 --> 01:34:49.920
jay handal: You know, whatever.

867
01:34:50.280 --> 01:34:51.210
james murez: Alright perfect.

868
01:34:53.160 --> 01:34:55.680
Ivan: Okay Okay, can I ask a similar question.

869
01:34:56.190 --> 01:34:58.140
jay handal: we've been asking anybody a question you want.

870
01:34:58.140 --> 01:34:58.920
Ivan: yeah okay.

871
01:35:00.240 --> 01:35:02.640
Ivan: Do you want to bring up about the printing supplies.

872
01:35:06.300 --> 01:35:07.530
Sima Kostovetsky: Can you repeat that Ivan.

873
01:35:07.890 --> 01:35:11.220
Ivan: You want to bring up about the printing supplies.

874
01:35:11.400 --> 01:35:17.520
Sima Kostovetsky: Well, I think I think it's all part and parcel and I can have that discussion with Jay offline but.

875
01:35:17.580 --> 01:35:18.120
Sima Kostovetsky: As long as.

876
01:35:18.480 --> 01:35:20.820
Sima Kostovetsky: vendors, you know.

877
01:35:21.420 --> 01:35:22.680
Ivan: wanted to pull over it.

878
01:35:22.890 --> 01:35:24.630
Sima Kostovetsky: No, no, no, no, no, and I.

879
01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:33.540
Sima Kostovetsky: know that i'm getting more clarity on on the specifics yeah so Jay if you don't mind i'm for us to have a.

880
01:35:35.010 --> 01:35:37.980
jay handal: i'm always around i'm easy to find Thank you.

881
01:35:38.040 --> 01:35:44.670
Daffodil Tyminski: i'm to that nj when you asked us to email you our information which email address, should we use.

882
01:35:44.730 --> 01:35:58.380
jay handal: Okay, send it to my my gmail account to my name J a y ha n E a l at gmail COM and just so you guys know, thank you for setting me up with the treasurer at.

883
01:35:58.860 --> 01:36:09.570
jay handal: Unfortunately, when I tried to register for the p card and everything yesterday it flagged it and said that email was being used by somebody else.

884
01:36:09.690 --> 01:36:11.610
james murez: And i'll take i'll fix that later today sorry.

885
01:36:11.910 --> 01:36:16.110
jay handal: I didn't want to get into a war with downtown I wanted my information in.

886
01:36:16.110 --> 01:36:17.490
james murez: Quick yeah yeah.

887
01:36:17.940 --> 01:36:20.910
jay handal: I use the J handling email now.

888
01:36:21.210 --> 01:36:31.740
james murez: vicki mentioned that to me and I did not have a chance, yet to get into to the cheap G suite at Google to fix whatever the problem is, but I will do that later.

889
01:36:31.740 --> 01:36:37.170
Daffodil Tyminski: Today I am just concerned from a records retention, you know standpoint so just so we.

890
01:36:37.230 --> 01:36:46.350
james murez: Why don't you do this daffodil CC it to treasure Andre already does not have access to the account and then, when that when the time comes, it will already be.

891
01:36:47.250 --> 01:36:59.130
james murez: In in the treasures account for the permanent ongoing record so send it to Jay as as perhaps the CC and make the the to treasurer and then he'll have the copy and and.

892
01:37:00.480 --> 01:37:03.750
james murez: And that way, the the permanent record will show that it went to the treasure.

893
01:37:04.920 --> 01:37:07.680
Sima Kostovetsky: Okay, so it's your full name Jay handle at gmail.

894
01:37:07.830 --> 01:37:13.320
jay handal: ja ja why ha and the al@gmail.com just.

895
01:37:13.320 --> 01:37:15.120
Sima Kostovetsky: Like you attack a test.

896
01:37:16.440 --> 01:37:16.800
james murez: Okay.

897
01:37:21.570 --> 01:37:22.050
jay handal: got it.

898
01:37:28.770 --> 01:37:30.180
Daffodil Tyminski: So you need full name.

899
01:37:31.230 --> 01:37:44.130
jay handal: Any name email address phone number and then at some point you're going to have to sign these documents, if the you know the board, who approves everybody and everything.

900
01:37:44.820 --> 01:37:58.170
jay handal: i'll have to i'll you know i'm in Venice all the time, because I, you know, I have a unit in Venice now yo i'm in the area, so if you're in the area, I can just bring the documents you can sign them, I can send them and.

901
01:37:58.290 --> 01:38:05.190
Daffodil Tyminski: What we what I had done with Andrea I set him up with this and then he and I were using a pretty effectively was docusign.

902
01:38:06.540 --> 01:38:09.570
Daffodil Tyminski: um so you can basically get thrown into clicks.

903
01:38:10.080 --> 01:38:15.210
jay handal: yeah I don't know if the city will accept Doc you sign on the annual signatures.

904
01:38:15.780 --> 01:38:19.380
Daffodil Tyminski: Oh, on the annual signatures, I can see that I just met as a matter of course, on the second.

905
01:38:19.440 --> 01:38:19.770
jay handal: I mean it.

906
01:38:19.980 --> 01:38:32.220
jay handal: doesn't matter of course i'm great with docusign or don't sign or whatever, but I think they want to wet signature in the end, I have to send a packet to them, I have to scan it first so it's legal.

907
01:38:32.400 --> 01:38:33.330
jay handal: and on org.

908
01:38:33.750 --> 01:38:35.610
jay handal: And then I have to send them the actual package.

909
01:38:38.190 --> 01:38:38.610
Daffodil Tyminski: got it.

910
01:38:40.830 --> 01:38:42.060
jay handal: Anything else guys.

911
01:38:42.330 --> 01:38:49.110
james murez: I just want to say it's a pleasure working with somebody that understands and knows this stuff and has done it all before because.

912
01:38:49.890 --> 01:38:59.520
james murez: we're not we're not going down a dark blind blind tunnel anymore it's it's quite a pleasure, thank you for stepping in and wish we could recruit your full time.

913
01:39:00.690 --> 01:39:10.560
jay handal: yeah it's my pleasure it's not that hard frazier is actually not that hard you know it's only made hard when the treasurer can't really run a meeting well.

914
01:39:11.370 --> 01:39:22.410
jay handal: And he lets everyone else hijack the meeting, and then it turns into a brouhaha and I don't I don't allow that that doesn't happen so i've been doing this crap too long, so.

915
01:39:24.780 --> 01:39:27.300
jay handal: Anyway, I do, I have a motion to adjourn.

916
01:39:27.810 --> 01:39:29.010
james murez: i'll make the motion to adjourn.

917
01:39:29.670 --> 01:39:30.300
Second.

918
01:39:31.590 --> 01:39:32.340
Daffodil Tyminski: I will second it.

919
01:39:32.580 --> 01:39:33.900
jay handal: Anybody who objects is.

920
01:39:34.140 --> 01:39:39.990
james murez: There is this excuse me stop for a moment, you had mentioned that you would let Sarah make a comment she just raised her hand.

921
01:39:40.080 --> 01:39:42.750
jay handal: Oh sorry, yes, Sarah you had a question.

922
01:39:43.560 --> 01:39:46.350
james murez: We have to promote her I believe let's see.

923
01:39:46.650 --> 01:39:48.000
jay handal: I promote her to treasure.

924
01:39:50.550 --> 01:39:53.010
james murez: let's allow her to talk there we go go ahead, Sarah.

925
01:39:54.180 --> 01:40:03.030
sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I thank you for that Jim I do appreciate it, I waited through the conversation and I thought once I heard you a journey that no no i've got it I need to raise my hand.

926
01:40:03.690 --> 01:40:12.780
sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay Thank you so much Jay for all at the beginning of the meeting all of the information with regard to what makes a grant application successful.

927
01:40:14.070 --> 01:40:21.120
sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I actually did send in a grant application that was not considered, but I think it just wasn't considered because it was too late.

928
01:40:21.450 --> 01:40:39.000
sarahrwauters@gmail.com: And what i'd like to do, and maybe Jay is the person to answer this question is, I want to apply for funds for the Venice arbor committee but i'd like to do it right away for the next fiscal year are these brands done on a rolling basis and Would I be able to.

929
01:40:40.860 --> 01:40:42.390
sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Get grant monies.

930
01:40:43.530 --> 01:40:49.020
sarahrwauters@gmail.com: right away, or at least prior to November, rather than waiting until the end of the fiscal year.

931
01:40:50.160 --> 01:40:54.000
jay handal: So just you know the fiscal year ends June 30.

932
01:40:54.960 --> 01:40:58.560
jay handal: Right Oh, the new budget begins July one to June clerk.

933
01:40:59.100 --> 01:41:14.100
jay handal: Okay, so it's too late to apply for a grant now for this fiscal year you can certainly send in an application to whoever is receiving applications at the Venice neighborhood Council.

934
01:41:14.730 --> 01:41:22.890
jay handal: And I would suggest, and we can have this conversation that you know, maybe you guys set up an email address that's funding at.

935
01:41:23.550 --> 01:41:34.770
jay handal: You know, and everybody can send me a funding request to one place, and that can be distributed to the right people that would probably eliminate some of the last couple of days chasing documents around.

936
01:41:36.360 --> 01:41:56.730
jay handal: But in any case, the thing to remember is if the board packet that is written is approved there's going to be very little money next year for Community projects, and when I say very little money, I mean.

937
01:41:57.090 --> 01:41:58.950
Daffodil Tyminski: we're talking about thousand dollars.

938
01:41:59.040 --> 01:42:01.380
james murez: Yes to 2000 bucks is what you had in there.

939
01:42:01.530 --> 01:42:07.050
jay handal: yeah it's like $2,000 for one category, and I think I don't have it in front of.

940
01:42:07.050 --> 01:42:09.030
james murez: 120 2500 for the other.

941
01:42:09.480 --> 01:42:21.600
jay handal: yeah so between the two there's 40 $500 for the entire year for grant funding for fiscal year 2022 and 2023.

942
01:42:22.290 --> 01:42:23.340
jay handal: So, yes.

943
01:42:23.370 --> 01:42:37.920
jay handal: I would get my application in sooner than later, and how they evaluate whether they're going to do a certain time limit, or just do it and be done with it, I don't know that's a policy issue that the Chair can make with the board.

944
01:42:38.880 --> 01:42:59.400
sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay, I mean I did send in my application to the address that was the physical address it's a postal box that was recommended on the application and I sent it on Monday I also emailed it to both Jim and Andrea and I got no response.

945
01:42:59.790 --> 01:43:01.740
Daffodil Tyminski: See review like two months ago.

946
01:43:02.280 --> 01:43:08.670
sarahrwauters@gmail.com: Okay that's fine I get that i'm I didn't know what the, the only reason why I heard about this.

947
01:43:09.390 --> 01:43:19.320
sarahrwauters@gmail.com: was because I heard about it in the last board meeting and then, when they said okay we're going to have another budget meeting in order to consider these applications.

948
01:43:20.220 --> 01:43:38.550
sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I thought I will just all love it in there and see what happens I didn't you know, sometimes public bodies will dispense with their deadlines in order to fully fund whatever funds they have in their you know coffers, so I figured that that would be a good.

949
01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:40.200
sarahrwauters@gmail.com: You know.

950
01:43:41.670 --> 01:43:43.980
jay handal: yeah but anyway that's fine.

951
01:43:44.310 --> 01:43:49.920
sarahrwauters@gmail.com: I I get that I will apply as soon as the fiscal I mean i'm going to apply right away.

952
01:43:50.040 --> 01:44:06.630
sarahrwauters@gmail.com: From i'm i'm just i'm going to revise my application, now that i've heard some criticisms that you raise, but one of the questions I do have is our Organization has been planting trees and plants in public.

953
01:44:07.830 --> 01:44:17.550
sarahrwauters@gmail.com: areas at the permission of the city, because the city is encouraging tree planting in their parkways.

954
01:44:19.050 --> 01:44:38.430
sarahrwauters@gmail.com: But we're probably not going to be able to get them to generate a permission letter because the permission is a blanket permission, so I want to know how uh how that's going to be perceived and how to address that in a way that's going to be satisfactory to the Budget Committee.

955
01:44:38.970 --> 01:44:44.070
james murez: So Sarah I can address a little bit of that having planted several thousand trees in Venice in the past.

956
01:44:44.280 --> 01:44:49.470
Daffodil Tyminski: um guys I need to jump off i'm Sarah i'm happy to call you directly, if you want, but.

957
01:44:50.760 --> 01:44:59.040
jay handal: Before you jump off real quick and i'm sorry to interrupt I just got permission to get into your portal.

958
01:45:01.230 --> 01:45:02.040
jay handal: So.

959
01:45:03.390 --> 01:45:24.240
jay handal: There are a couple of issues and i'm going to have to dig into it, you have one overdue credit card receipt upload that's missing, you have to pending credit card transactions requiring receipts, you have one flag credit card transaction, and you have to flagged me ours.

960
01:45:25.920 --> 01:45:39.480
jay handal: So I will dig into them later today i'll go into the computer portal, not on my phone and i'll find out what it is that's missing get it to you guys get it to gym.

961
01:45:41.430 --> 01:45:45.180
jay handal: But they're going to have to be resolved before they're going to release any more money.

962
01:45:46.290 --> 01:45:51.240
jay handal: because now we are in, we went from yellow to red flags.

963
01:45:51.750 --> 01:45:52.170
james murez: yo and.

964
01:45:52.200 --> 01:45:53.400
jay handal: you're on your account.

965
01:45:53.670 --> 01:46:04.050
james murez: And, and let me just mentioned that I believe some of those issues were being cleared up, and I believe that Andrea got some of those into his inbox.

966
01:46:04.830 --> 01:46:18.570
james murez: In the treasures email account so once I clear up the treasures email account that will probably give you access to the invoices that I hope were sent over right Sema to shake your head.

967
01:46:19.770 --> 01:46:24.180
jay handal: So did you guys and for April and mark.

968
01:46:28.950 --> 01:46:35.640
jay handal: You know if board action can't vote counts had been submitted.

969
01:46:37.530 --> 01:46:38.370
jay handal: To the city.

970
01:46:38.820 --> 01:46:52.980
james murez: I don't know I mean we did that the Minutes are all online, whether or not Andrea submitted the vote count on one of those forms or not, you know that was yesterday I believe was the first time I ever saw and understood what those forms were used for.

971
01:46:53.220 --> 01:46:58.350
james murez: Right and and so you know I can certainly go back and fill those out without too much trouble.

972
01:46:58.920 --> 01:47:03.930
Daffodil Tyminski: I will say, since i'm the signer I have never been asked to sign those so I don't think.

973
01:47:04.140 --> 01:47:05.730
james murez: I guess is that was just not.

974
01:47:05.730 --> 01:47:09.120
james murez: happening is one of those things that fell through the cracks.

975
01:47:09.300 --> 01:47:12.630
jay handal: So extra space is that your.

976
01:47:12.840 --> 01:47:14.520
james murez: story where public storage yeah.

977
01:47:14.850 --> 01:47:21.990
jay handal: Okay, so there's currently a credit card receipt missing, for that is a receipt missing for Facebook.

978
01:47:27.360 --> 01:47:31.350
jay handal: So I have a Facebook receipt and as.

979
01:47:31.950 --> 01:47:34.200
james murez: You get that Sema the Facebook receive.

980
01:47:34.500 --> 01:47:39.120
Sima Kostovetsky: I do i'm actually looking through my receipts, is it $42.

981
01:47:39.540 --> 01:47:42.000
jay handal: Is 42 or four right.

982
01:47:42.030 --> 01:47:54.030
Sima Kostovetsky: They sent that to me on the 18th so I like that's the other part, that I think would be really helpful, especially for us on budget is the deadline dates.

983
01:47:54.150 --> 01:47:58.200
james murez: Well, you know what, why did, why did they have your email address rather than treasurer.

984
01:47:58.620 --> 01:48:03.090
Sima Kostovetsky: Because I get i'm the one that got vetted for the Facebook account it's.

985
01:48:03.300 --> 01:48:03.840
james murez: I understand.

986
01:48:04.140 --> 01:48:09.600
james murez: But why don't we change the email address on it and and let those receipts come directly to the treasure.

987
01:48:09.810 --> 01:48:19.530
Sima Kostovetsky: Well, because it was better coming to me then to him at that point so that's how it was built to my account because i'm the one that got vetted it's a city account.

988
01:48:19.770 --> 01:48:24.660
Sima Kostovetsky: But whatever reason it gets billed to me person yo J you'll see if.

989
01:48:25.260 --> 01:48:28.680
jay handal: we'll we'll talk about all the bandwidth i'm going to go through.

990
01:48:29.220 --> 01:48:40.320
jay handal: Now that I can get into the portal, you know I will go through everything and see what went to who and where, and you know i'm a firm believer and consolidating.

991
01:48:40.950 --> 01:48:53.730
jay handal: You know all the information so that if you have an email for payments at or receipt at or whatever you know, and they can be distributed to individual emails you know, in a forward.

992
01:48:54.870 --> 01:49:06.030
jay handal: But you should have one email forever that people are sending stuff through so when i'm no longer treasure, you know the next treasure is the one who has that account he can go in and look at everything.

993
01:49:06.570 --> 01:49:07.740
james murez: makes sense.

994
01:49:08.250 --> 01:49:09.360
james murez: So accounts payable.

995
01:49:09.810 --> 01:49:23.370
jay handal: yeah whatever, so I will go through the portal, because it appears that you've got a number of issues that need to be cleaned up pretty quick and if there's me ours that haven't been approved at the board level.

996
01:49:24.780 --> 01:49:28.020
jay handal: Then they should be on this special board meeting as well.

997
01:49:28.410 --> 01:49:36.240
james murez: But I think the meds were actually approved, but I don't know is was there some formal document that has to be sent into the city.

998
01:49:36.540 --> 01:49:40.890
jay handal: On their approval, yes, you have to you have to send in one of these.

999
01:49:41.370 --> 01:49:42.900
james murez: Those board action items okay.

1000
01:49:44.130 --> 01:49:51.750
james murez: And those have to be signed and counter side and the signer would have to be you at this point is treasure and daffodils.

1001
01:49:51.750 --> 01:50:04.740
james murez: Exactly alright so we'll get those filled out i'll send you electronic copies to both you and can they just out of curiosity, can we do this in their shotgun approach we're both you and daffodil each sign one individually, and then we send into.

1002
01:50:05.550 --> 01:50:08.070
jay handal: And I have to send one in with both.

1003
01:50:08.070 --> 01:50:10.020
james murez: Signature Okay, whatever.

1004
01:50:10.710 --> 01:50:14.160
jay handal: So typically what we do in West la.

1005
01:50:15.210 --> 01:50:18.120
jay handal: Is Jamie and I sign a master.

1006
01:50:18.660 --> 01:50:20.130
jay handal: Okay undated.

1007
01:50:20.670 --> 01:50:21.090
james murez: got it.

1008
01:50:21.540 --> 01:50:34.890
jay handal: And then, when something gets passed at the Council, you know I just fill in the tick marks yep and it up at the bottom put the agenda item, the meeting date and I come home when I scan it, you know and i'm done.

1009
01:50:35.370 --> 01:50:35.790
Okay.

1010
01:50:38.970 --> 01:50:42.120
james murez: Very good, well we'll get there we're not there yet yeah.

1011
01:50:42.690 --> 01:50:43.410
jay handal: I mean it's easy.

1012
01:50:43.650 --> 01:50:47.220
jay handal: yeah I trust her, she trusts me yep you know so it's easy.

1013
01:50:48.840 --> 01:50:50.220
Daffodil Tyminski: um guys, I have to jump off.

1014
01:50:50.370 --> 01:50:51.180
jay handal: me too i'm.

1015
01:50:51.570 --> 01:50:52.770
james murez: Okay, are we concluded.

1016
01:50:53.040 --> 01:50:53.640
jay handal: we're done.

1017
01:50:54.510 --> 01:50:55.500
jay handal: All right, thank you.

1018
01:50:55.770 --> 01:50:56.250
sarahrwauters@gmail.com: hear me.

1019
01:50:56.430 --> 01:50:58.470
james murez: The meeting ends at 1143.

1020
01:50:58.860 --> 01:51:00.360
Daffodil Tyminski: Okay, thanks guys.

1021
01:51:00.450 --> 01:51:01.050
jay handal: Thank you all.

1022
01:51:01.980 --> 01:51:02.580
Sima Kostovetsky: Thank you.

1023
01:51:06.450 --> 01:51:07.020
james murez: Thank you Jay.

1024
01:51:07.590 --> 01:51:09.420
jay handal: Thank you, Jim we'll talk later.