WEBVTT 1 00:00:39.630 --> 00:00:43.020 jim murez: john helped me through this i'm not sure who's on the committee at this point. 2 00:00:46.050 --> 00:00:47.550 Jonathan Deer: i'd see so. 3 00:00:48.210 --> 00:00:52.770 jim murez: Obviously, Robert why don't I make you coho there's Robert I can promote him. 4 00:00:52.890 --> 00:00:53.280 yeah. 5 00:00:54.540 --> 00:00:54.900 jim murez: yeah. 6 00:00:55.080 --> 00:00:56.340 Jonathan Deer: Even as on it. 7 00:00:56.550 --> 00:01:05.160 jim murez: yeah Ben is on it Okay, they got to stop jumping around stop raising your hands people it causes it to jump out to keep up with you there's. 8 00:01:08.910 --> 00:01:11.190 jim murez: Kevin was promoted, what about Elizabeth clay. 9 00:01:11.490 --> 00:01:11.910 yeah. 10 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:18.450 robertthibodeau: And then the last person would be selena if she's in the audience. 11 00:01:19.110 --> 00:01:20.340 jim murez: I don't see her yet. 12 00:01:22.860 --> 00:01:29.250 jim murez: I see goes puppet has his hand raised but i'm not going to goat puppet excuse me, I mispronounced. 13 00:01:31.440 --> 00:01:33.000 jim murez: But he's not on the committee is he. 14 00:01:34.740 --> 00:01:35.190 Jonathan Deer: I don't. 15 00:01:35.400 --> 00:01:36.990 Jonathan Deer: Know i'll pop it on again. 16 00:01:37.320 --> 00:01:37.680 No. 17 00:01:39.060 --> 00:01:40.380 jim murez: He keeps raising his hand. 18 00:01:40.770 --> 00:01:41.190 cool. 19 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:46.080 jim murez: And I put it down could um. 20 00:01:47.550 --> 00:01:50.160 jim murez: Okay, so wait, let me go back to this side. 21 00:01:51.450 --> 00:01:53.130 jim murez: This point. 22 00:01:54.600 --> 00:01:56.190 jim murez: Robert will be. 23 00:01:58.410 --> 00:01:59.700 jim murez: A co host. 24 00:02:00.720 --> 00:02:01.830 jim murez: Sean will be. 25 00:02:04.290 --> 00:02:07.290 jim murez: Co host I assume that's how you still running these meetings. 26 00:02:07.530 --> 00:02:07.980 Yes. 27 00:02:09.030 --> 00:02:18.300 jim murez: And I need to so you guys are both co hosts Now I will go out and make screen sharing available. 28 00:02:23.850 --> 00:02:24.960 jim murez: Okay, take it away. 29 00:02:26.640 --> 00:02:28.020 robertthibodeau: Okay. 30 00:02:28.470 --> 00:02:40.800 robertthibodeau: Welcome to the parking transportation committee meeting 523 22 looks like we have a quorum will take attendance. 31 00:02:42.480 --> 00:02:44.760 robertthibodeau: Robert is here john deere. 32 00:02:46.290 --> 00:02:46.980 Jonathan Deer: yep. 33 00:02:50.190 --> 00:02:51.330 robertthibodeau: allison Wilson. 34 00:02:51.810 --> 00:02:52.590 here. 35 00:02:53.730 --> 00:02:56.850 robertthibodeau: selena appears to not be here. 36 00:02:57.870 --> 00:02:59.040 robertthibodeau: Elizabeth clay. 37 00:02:59.370 --> 00:02:59.850 here. 38 00:03:02.100 --> 00:03:03.330 robertthibodeau: Evan Corrigan. 39 00:03:03.870 --> 00:03:08.400 robertthibodeau: Here and Jim you're as we check checking you off too. 40 00:03:09.690 --> 00:03:14.910 robertthibodeau: So it is 706 john are you taking notes, you want me to. 41 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:17.790 Jonathan Deer: I am 706 the meeting is. 42 00:03:18.750 --> 00:03:19.710 robertthibodeau: Now officially. 43 00:03:21.660 --> 00:03:22.620 robertthibodeau: In order. 44 00:03:25.860 --> 00:03:27.060 robertthibodeau: review and comment. 45 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:31.380 robertthibodeau: Adopt minutes from prior meeting. 46 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:35.370 Jonathan Deer: moves. 47 00:03:36.540 --> 00:03:42.570 robertthibodeau: moved I see puppets hand up, I guess, we take a comment here. 48 00:03:44.100 --> 00:03:52.740 robertthibodeau: So we're going to time you at a minute, Mr puppet hold on one, second, and we will allow you to talk one second for the. 49 00:03:54.270 --> 00:03:54.900 robertthibodeau: timer. 50 00:03:59.460 --> 00:04:00.210 robertthibodeau: Okay. 51 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:06.600 robertthibodeau: Okay, Mr puppet please. 52 00:04:08.250 --> 00:04:09.030 robertthibodeau: Please talk. 53 00:04:11.460 --> 00:04:18.030 Goat Puppet: Again it's good that might have somebody here that cares about farms sponsored by john deere. 54 00:04:19.740 --> 00:04:27.000 Goat Puppet: you're kidding me the real guy yes, so if I behave myself he might get you that tractor you need. 55 00:04:28.380 --> 00:04:48.030 Goat Puppet: yeah so of course i'm a little late tonight, I noticed your beloved treasure, I believe, had a little bit of a meltdown or something to that effect, so we will call us the first witness your new pro 10 J handled, I believe, is your new pro tem chair, yes. 56 00:04:49.110 --> 00:05:05.370 Goat Puppet: And of course we will be discussing traffic, but I came from a meeting with gilson do, yes, we talked about visions year up and he said, and he says he's against it. 57 00:05:06.570 --> 00:05:11.730 Goat Puppet: yeah that's right that's right, yes, so remember want to rise. 58 00:05:13.350 --> 00:05:14.430 robertthibodeau: up against it. 59 00:05:14.490 --> 00:05:15.120 Goat Puppet: Yes. 60 00:05:16.080 --> 00:05:16.530 Thank you. 61 00:05:18.630 --> 00:05:19.440 robertthibodeau: Okay do. 62 00:05:20.730 --> 00:05:22.290 robertthibodeau: Seeing no more. 63 00:05:22.320 --> 00:05:24.510 robertthibodeau: Public comments on. 64 00:05:32.520 --> 00:05:35.970 robertthibodeau: Okay, seeing no more public comments on the. 65 00:05:38.130 --> 00:05:38.820 robertthibodeau: minutes. 66 00:05:40.050 --> 00:05:44.610 robertthibodeau: And we got a motion to approve them, I assume, we had a secondary. 67 00:05:45.150 --> 00:05:46.380 Jonathan Deer: didn't have a second yet. 68 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:48.330 Jonathan Deer: you're. 69 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:49.410 robertthibodeau: muted that. 70 00:05:50.340 --> 00:05:55.260 robertthibodeau: Second okay so let's bring it to unless we've got bored comment. 71 00:05:56.730 --> 00:05:57.060 Jonathan Deer: Now. 72 00:05:57.540 --> 00:06:00.000 robertthibodeau: Seeing none let's bring it to a vote. 73 00:06:02.400 --> 00:06:02.940 robertthibodeau: john. 74 00:06:04.140 --> 00:06:04.560 Jonathan Deer: hi. 75 00:06:05.460 --> 00:06:07.350 robertthibodeau: allison yes. 76 00:06:09.540 --> 00:06:10.260 robertthibodeau: Elizabeth. 77 00:06:10.500 --> 00:06:11.790 robertthibodeau: Yes, Kevin. 78 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:12.630 alyson wilson: Yes. 79 00:06:12.960 --> 00:06:16.110 robertthibodeau: ma'am yes, Sir pass the Minutes. 80 00:06:17.610 --> 00:06:27.420 robertthibodeau: hey we got more public comment here, so we got public comment on non agenda items related to park me and transportation committee only. 81 00:06:29.610 --> 00:06:37.980 robertthibodeau: So we got two hands up here so it's do Genevieve if I pronounced your name right i'm gonna join. 82 00:06:41.250 --> 00:06:44.400 GENEVIEVE NEVIUS: hi, this is actually Sarah waters i'm sorry that's. 83 00:06:44.400 --> 00:06:45.720 GENEVIEVE NEVIUS: My daughter's name. 84 00:06:45.840 --> 00:06:46.470 robertthibodeau: Is here. 85 00:06:47.340 --> 00:06:59.820 GENEVIEVE NEVIUS: Somehow that does come up i'm on the phone so i'm sorry about that Sarah waters and I just wanted to congratulate you on getting the motion passed in the the board. 86 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:16.110 GENEVIEVE NEVIUS: meeting with regard to the green architecture for the the link and fast forward and I came because I wanted to encourage all of you to come up with next steps to try to make that green architecture or reality. 87 00:07:19.380 --> 00:07:32.490 robertthibodeau: I don't know exactly what the next steps are but maybe you and I can talk during the week and kind of come up with some some that we need to get the letter out pushing people to come to our meetings, and I would love it. 88 00:07:34.770 --> 00:07:40.980 robertthibodeau: I haven't seen Isabel around I don't know if she's away away or whatever, but uh if you and Isabel would help out I would love that. 89 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:42.960 GENEVIEVE NEVIUS: So, like. 90 00:07:43.470 --> 00:07:57.060 robertthibodeau: Okay, thanks thanks for the thanks, by the way, and I didn't realize I didn't have my video on, and I was holding the timer up with no video on it was very embarrassing OK, I see go i'm gonna if you said it then Sarah. 91 00:07:57.510 --> 00:07:58.680 GENEVIEVE NEVIUS: that's it okay. 92 00:07:58.740 --> 00:08:04.860 robertthibodeau: i'm gonna put you down here and then put go pump it up again mute you. 93 00:08:06.630 --> 00:08:08.100 robertthibodeau: allowed to talk. 94 00:08:09.330 --> 00:08:09.780 robertthibodeau: Europe. 95 00:08:10.200 --> 00:08:12.330 Goat Puppet: it's not a fan that's a virtual or. 96 00:08:14.610 --> 00:08:15.150 Goat Puppet: boring. 97 00:08:16.170 --> 00:08:18.210 Goat Puppet: So I don't want this racism. 98 00:08:20.100 --> 00:08:44.820 Goat Puppet: Oh, did you attend the transportation committee meeting last week, chaired by your favorite Council member Mike bohn in Yes, he put a secret code on the meeting so when you dialed into zoom you were blocked, along with 4 million other angelenos unless you had the code. 99 00:08:46.350 --> 00:08:54.450 Goat Puppet: developers had the code, it seems that lobbyists had the code going puppet however didn't have the code. 100 00:08:55.740 --> 00:09:10.530 Goat Puppet: Well, what did you do I throw a tantrum yes, I call the city staff, and I said, you know what you need you need an FBI indictment, and they don't charge for them. 101 00:09:12.210 --> 00:09:25.890 Goat Puppet: And then about 10 minutes later my phone in opened up the whole meeting to public comment and 20 puppet showed up and he had to sit there and listen to everybody. 102 00:09:26.970 --> 00:09:49.860 Goat Puppet: Even me yeah so imagine imagine the horror horror my bond, and he only has till December, the first to leave and he'll be free of you, and then you get to elect the next puppet of CD 11 who's gonna be Greg Goody Goody, no, no, no, no, you don't want him. 103 00:09:50.040 --> 00:09:51.450 Goat Puppet: Was that all headed. 104 00:09:51.690 --> 00:09:55.290 robertthibodeau: Up top and we are diverging off of transportation. 105 00:09:55.290 --> 00:09:56.160 Goat Puppet: Oh, I mean. 106 00:09:57.450 --> 00:10:01.770 Goat Puppet: To be careful, because your next Council member will be a demon. 107 00:10:03.150 --> 00:10:05.580 Goat Puppet: And i'm trying to guide you through the darkness. 108 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:10.980 Goat Puppet: get your transportation my barn and I believe. 109 00:10:12.390 --> 00:10:12.780 robertthibodeau: yeah. 110 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:15.060 robertthibodeau: move forward we're going to move forwards that's. 111 00:10:15.660 --> 00:10:16.560 Goat Puppet: A jail cell. 112 00:10:20.250 --> 00:10:20.850 robertthibodeau: Okay. 113 00:10:22.620 --> 00:10:28.020 robertthibodeau: Seeing no more hands up we're going to move on to the regular agenda. 114 00:10:29.400 --> 00:10:31.890 robertthibodeau: i'm going to flip open i'm. 115 00:10:33.990 --> 00:10:35.880 robertthibodeau: john do you want to share your screen. 116 00:10:36.210 --> 00:10:38.370 Jonathan Deer: And I you know i'm using mine for minutes. 117 00:10:38.370 --> 00:10:39.600 Jonathan Deer: So makes it hard to. 118 00:10:40.110 --> 00:10:41.940 robertthibodeau: To sharing and I will. 119 00:10:43.050 --> 00:10:46.260 Jonathan Deer: You know how to do that or yep okay. 120 00:10:51.180 --> 00:10:54.330 robertthibodeau: Do you know how to do it problem is I don't have the agenda handy. 121 00:10:54.690 --> 00:10:55.410 robertthibodeau: You know you. 122 00:10:55.890 --> 00:10:57.570 Jonathan Deer: Maybe I didn't think i'd be that can open up a. 123 00:10:57.570 --> 00:11:00.060 Jonathan Deer: Second window, we went I can probably do it okay well I. 124 00:11:00.540 --> 00:11:01.770 robertthibodeau: have an end on. 125 00:11:02.070 --> 00:11:02.790 Goat Puppet: The agenda. 126 00:11:05.160 --> 00:11:06.450 robertthibodeau: hold on a second Mr go. 127 00:11:14.880 --> 00:11:17.790 Jonathan Deer: Okay, here we go i'll figure it out here let's see. 128 00:11:20.820 --> 00:11:21.480 Jonathan Deer: There you go. 129 00:11:22.890 --> 00:11:25.290 robertthibodeau: Okay, if you can handle that I just got it open to. 130 00:11:27.810 --> 00:11:35.850 robertthibodeau: Here we go, so I think, based on the fact that we have somebody from the police department here, at least we did a minute ago. 131 00:11:38.940 --> 00:11:41.220 robertthibodeau: I think we should move to. 132 00:11:42.450 --> 00:11:45.720 robertthibodeau: New business items to allow them to. 133 00:11:46.950 --> 00:11:48.870 robertthibodeau: provide some information. 134 00:11:50.160 --> 00:11:59.670 robertthibodeau: and not make them wait slog through other stuff and then we also have a couple members of the public who have brought things in front of us, too, so we're going to handle. 135 00:12:00.780 --> 00:12:01.500 robertthibodeau: The. 136 00:12:02.970 --> 00:12:13.980 robertthibodeau: Discussion of I think it's number nine here the parking enforcement of the abandoned vehicles and number 10 of the street, cleaning and see if we can get a little little help. 137 00:12:16.020 --> 00:12:16.560 Goat Puppet: Bari. 138 00:12:17.280 --> 00:12:18.960 robertthibodeau: are going to put you on mute good day. 139 00:12:19.980 --> 00:12:21.210 hold on one second here. 140 00:12:24.990 --> 00:12:27.330 robertthibodeau: Participants 14. 141 00:12:36.810 --> 00:12:37.230 robertthibodeau: Okay. 142 00:12:41.190 --> 00:12:42.960 robertthibodeau: All right, so we have. 143 00:12:46.260 --> 00:12:48.390 robertthibodeau: la de de. 144 00:12:49.530 --> 00:12:54.630 robertthibodeau: la to talk and then i'm going to do a short intro is that. 145 00:12:55.920 --> 00:13:06.420 robertthibodeau: In February this is regarding Item number nine in February, the City Council passed in motion, I think i've got the number right at 21 dash oh 956. 146 00:13:08.190 --> 00:13:18.060 robertthibodeau: to resume the citation and towing have abandoned an oversized vehicles and, as you know, we all live here because we're all residents. 147 00:13:20.640 --> 00:13:29.850 robertthibodeau: There there do seem to be a number of vehicles that have not moved in a long time, like over a calendar year if not over calendar two years and. 148 00:13:30.900 --> 00:13:34.590 robertthibodeau: i'm curious if there's some process by which. 149 00:13:36.150 --> 00:13:51.270 robertthibodeau: We can get some assistance, maybe and start to move some of these on they don't seem to be being used for living they don't seem to be being used for anything except storage and there's anyways I will end, it that. 150 00:13:53.880 --> 00:13:56.550 robertthibodeau: allowed to talk sergeant Jeff. 151 00:13:57.780 --> 00:13:59.430 robertthibodeau: lubbock I believe it is. 152 00:14:01.620 --> 00:14:05.670 robertthibodeau: Welcome to the park transportation meeting of the Venice neighborhood Council. 153 00:14:06.870 --> 00:14:08.280 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Are you doing today can you hear me. 154 00:14:08.730 --> 00:14:10.560 robertthibodeau: I can you're coming through loud and clear. 155 00:14:11.070 --> 00:14:21.420 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Okay, great I was wondering if there's any questions I can address specifically because I know that probably whatever was familiar with is that we had a moratorium that was supposedly ending on the 15th of May. 156 00:14:22.470 --> 00:14:31.200 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: We have towed a few vehicles, but they were, for the reasons that you would imagine we would have told them in the past, which was a burned Hulk. 157 00:14:31.650 --> 00:14:39.600 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Or, something that was blocking the roadway typically with a situation like we're in right now, because we've had this long standing moratorium due to coven. 158 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:53.400 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: What we're looking for from the police department is we're typically awaiting a operational order coming from our chief of police that will delineate exactly what we're able to do. 159 00:14:53.940 --> 00:14:59.400 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Because, as you can imagine, towing vehicles isn't really our primary function. 160 00:15:00.330 --> 00:15:08.820 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: it's usually crime reduction as best we can, but since we we're we're getting pulled into the mix on a number of these things and we're dealing with crime problems that have been generated by. 161 00:15:09.390 --> 00:15:16.530 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: As you mentioned a number of our movies, that are in the area, we want to make sure that we're on the we're following the process correctly. 162 00:15:17.100 --> 00:15:33.810 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: As we do this, the issue that has come up repeatedly as you, as you may be familiar with seeing some of these vehicles out there is that they have a level of hazardous materials in them and we ran across this recently with a with a with a burn vehicle because of the. 163 00:15:35.280 --> 00:15:42.150 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Waste tank and because of the propane tanks that are typically inherent with these vehicles it presents a somewhat of an issue. 164 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:52.020 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: To make sure that those are rendered safe before the vehicle is towed and stored and that brings to mind the other issue that we have at least from the police department side and I imagined from. 165 00:15:52.950 --> 00:16:01.650 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Do T side also is that we, because of the size of these vehicles, we have a very limited capacity of space to put them. 166 00:16:02.070 --> 00:16:13.290 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: And we also have a very limited capacity of vehicles to be able to remove them from the roadway so Those are some of the challenges that we're running into but like I said for the for the line officer that's in the field right now. 167 00:16:13.950 --> 00:16:18.240 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Typically, what we're looking for any time we've had a long standing process is for. 168 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:30.270 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: The word to come down on hot from on high, so to speak, to make sure that everyone is on the same sheet of music, as we go forward with this and to avoid any sort of risk or liability to to the officers or any entity of the city. 169 00:16:32.370 --> 00:16:34.110 robertthibodeau: Fair enough um. 170 00:16:35.520 --> 00:16:36.090 robertthibodeau: I guess. 171 00:16:38.340 --> 00:16:41.340 robertthibodeau: I guess, I understand the procedural stuff. 172 00:16:43.950 --> 00:16:52.590 robertthibodeau: You know just we all pass on any day you know numerous vehicles that we've just seen over and over again and honestly. 173 00:16:53.040 --> 00:17:03.060 robertthibodeau: i'm not talking about towing people's homes, at this point, although you know, maybe in the not too distant future we'd start finding them some other place camp out but um. 174 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:14.130 robertthibodeau: But uh i'm talking about vehicle suggests there, knowing that they're going nowhere and there's no sign of life, like people might not even be around anymore originally brought those vehicles in town. 175 00:17:16.410 --> 00:17:26.040 robertthibodeau: Is there some way that we can like start to report these things would that be through the police would that be through parking enforcement is there a 311. 176 00:17:26.760 --> 00:17:37.830 robertthibodeau: I mean, I had heard that there was 311 abandoned vehicle line before his subjects come up before, but like what would you recommend you had a band in vehicle for your House, but what would you do. 177 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:40.290 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: I would, I would. 178 00:17:40.470 --> 00:17:40.800 I would. 179 00:17:43.500 --> 00:17:48.510 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: When we're when we're not when we don't have our you know with our senior leader officers and I know you guys are familiar with that. 180 00:17:48.570 --> 00:17:56.850 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: we're typically we're still going out and talking vehicles, the vehicles that we can tell outside of the moratorium, where there was any evidence of someone dwelling in the vehicle. 181 00:17:57.420 --> 00:18:06.300 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: My senior leader officers are out there tone anywhere from three to five vehicles, a day just on a regular basis, and that can be any kind of thing a vehicle that's been. 182 00:18:06.930 --> 00:18:12.240 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: A vehicle has been abandoned, a vehicle has been dumped because you know it's been stolen and the catalytic converters been removed. 183 00:18:13.140 --> 00:18:19.050 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: any number of things, what I would like to do and what and what the chief of police has said is, we want to try and. 184 00:18:19.890 --> 00:18:24.570 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: It as much as we can, we would like to try and make the entities that are responsible for this. 185 00:18:24.930 --> 00:18:34.260 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: To be responsible and exercise exercise their right to go out there, I mean well that's what you're paying us, for we want to go out there and do it, so you put a 311 request in for an abandoned vehicle. 186 00:18:34.530 --> 00:18:38.700 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Obviously, if you see some criminal activity or something that's gonna be a police matter, we want to do that. 187 00:18:39.060 --> 00:18:50.940 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: But for the things that are just a typical event and vehicle it's been sitting there you know joey bananas park is you know runs a limo service and he's parking cars in front of your House, for you know weeks at a time. 188 00:18:51.420 --> 00:18:57.990 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: We want to let do to take the opportunity to come out there and FLEX their muscles and an exercise their rights they have they're the experts on it. 189 00:18:58.320 --> 00:19:10.530 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: And they can go out there and do a number of things inside vehicles and be able to do that I typically calling us if if it's just an abandoned vehicle unless it's a you know weird situation where it's a park block in your driveway. 190 00:19:11.250 --> 00:19:24.030 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: it's not always going to be the exigency for us and so we're I, and I totally understand the frustration on this we're going to try and go out there and do what we can, but as he, as you guys have heard before I know. 191 00:19:24.870 --> 00:19:35.310 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: This thing tends to fall on the lower end of priority for calls for us, and so we want to give the the parking enforcement folks every opportunity to go out there and. 192 00:19:35.850 --> 00:19:42.150 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: and earn their pay like we do and and make use of the tools that they have available to try and get some of these vehicles off the street. 193 00:19:43.740 --> 00:19:45.120 robertthibodeau: appreciate it do we have. 194 00:19:48.330 --> 00:19:49.110 Jonathan Deer: your mind if I ask. 195 00:19:49.140 --> 00:19:51.270 robertthibodeau: Some question I was gonna say questions yeah. 196 00:19:51.420 --> 00:19:51.840 Thanks. 197 00:19:53.100 --> 00:20:01.290 Jonathan Deer: um you'd mentioned before, that you're waiting for some you know some guidance from above, where would that guidance come from. 198 00:20:02.100 --> 00:20:10.140 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: So so typically anytime we have a anytime we have a change and alteration in our policy or how we're going to deal with the. 199 00:20:10.650 --> 00:20:19.440 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: With with different things in the public and it could be anything from it could be anything from a paperwork standpoint, we do reporting to something is as. 200 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:27.630 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Obviously, as important as taking a vehicle off the street, you know you're talking about somebody's personal property in some cases like you said it, you know amanda being somebody's home. 201 00:20:28.590 --> 00:20:41.400 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: anytime we we are exercising one policy or we're having a we're having a stop in a particular policy or like moratorium in this case, and then we go back into the the the side of. 202 00:20:42.600 --> 00:20:50.280 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: of saying hey we're going to go back to the old to the old process of removing these vehicles again there's typically some sort of education process we're trying to do, which. 203 00:20:51.000 --> 00:21:00.690 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: For instance, with my slows they're out there all the time trying to educate people hey you know we're going to start talking vehicles again make sure you start to get your stuff together, whatever giving people ample opportunity in these places. 204 00:21:01.650 --> 00:21:08.250 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: To maybe move and go someplace else, but we want to, we want to make sure that everyone is is. 205 00:21:08.910 --> 00:21:15.750 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: is aware of what the process is going to be so it's going to involve an education portion to the public. 206 00:21:16.170 --> 00:21:25.260 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: And it's also going to involve an education portion for the officers that are that are out there, exercising that the vehicle code rights so that we're not we're not. 207 00:21:25.980 --> 00:21:36.120 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: going out there unnecessarily causing issues and it's going to cause issues regardless, but we want to, we want to go out during make sure that everybody's has a fair chance to know what's going on, if if. 208 00:21:36.930 --> 00:21:40.500 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: If I don't tell you or you're not aware of that that all of a sudden we're going to. 209 00:21:41.010 --> 00:21:47.250 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: lift this and say Oh well before your it was okay to park your vehicle on the street, for an extended period of time. 210 00:21:47.580 --> 00:21:54.630 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: But, as these things are slowly being lifted we're going back to the old standard you can't leave a vehicle on the street that's expired six months in a day we're going to come to it. 211 00:21:55.110 --> 00:22:04.080 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: And that may be a shock to some people, but we're we're doing the education portion and get that out, so our office of operations is typically the chief is going to. 212 00:22:05.100 --> 00:22:13.020 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: send out a operational notice and give people their heads up it'll it'll be disseminated roll calls and on our website and. 213 00:22:13.380 --> 00:22:21.870 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: And things of that nature so it'll get everybody educated as to what are the responsibilities of the officers is going to be and how they can easily go out and explain that. 214 00:22:22.350 --> 00:22:31.800 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: To the people that come in contact with the not all don't create a lot less issues and also open up the opportunity for us to do a task forces and things of that nature as we develop. 215 00:22:32.340 --> 00:22:41.100 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: You know more places to put these vehicles and and have that have that ability so it's going to be a bit of a process and it's not going to be instant in, and I know everyone's. 216 00:22:41.460 --> 00:22:49.920 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: You know I know we say that a lot and I know it can be frustrating but, but we want to, we want to make sure that when we do go out there and do it, we do it the right way we do it effectively. 217 00:22:50.760 --> 00:22:52.920 Jonathan Deer: We let me just let me just. 218 00:22:52.950 --> 00:23:04.650 Jonathan Deer: back up a little bit so you said it's the office of operations that will send out something to the rank and file, so they know what they're supposed to do and how to go about it. 219 00:23:05.130 --> 00:23:06.030 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Yes, typically. 220 00:23:06.450 --> 00:23:11.850 Jonathan Deer: And then, who makes the decision for the office of operations to go ahead and do that. 221 00:23:12.570 --> 00:23:15.690 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Well it's gonna be it's gonna be the the chief is going to say. 222 00:23:15.780 --> 00:23:27.030 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: What what we're going to do, but this is course is going to be after the console with city attorneys and everything else, to make sure that the the verbiage that we put out to the officers is correct and so that we, when we go out and talk to people about it. 223 00:23:27.360 --> 00:23:31.320 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Though we're not giving them some kind of erroneous information okay. 224 00:23:31.350 --> 00:23:44.310 Jonathan Deer: And so, if if we wanted to make a request of the city to begin that enforcement again how far up that change should we go to be effective at making that request. 225 00:23:45.150 --> 00:23:58.350 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Well, I know I know, for instance, the the Bureau of Commission and police commissioner's this is considering a number of things related to these arby's and towing i'm sure is one of them, and so that's that's one avenue obviously you can go through. 226 00:23:59.700 --> 00:24:08.520 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: I would say that you can work through your your Council districts and speak with them and also work through Department of Transportation that parking enforcement. 227 00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:17.910 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: But but yeah that's that's about that's about the long and the short of it is, is it is it my guess it is, and again I haven't received anything yet so. 228 00:24:18.630 --> 00:24:29.910 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: And I I have not read anything today related to this, so if some new information that's come out today and i'm not aware of it and i'm giving you bad information that's my fault. 229 00:24:30.300 --> 00:24:31.950 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: I just didn't get that right now but. 230 00:24:31.950 --> 00:24:38.550 Jonathan Deer: that's why we have to figure out who should be talking to so we're not sending requests and stuff to the wrong people. 231 00:24:38.940 --> 00:24:41.670 robertthibodeau: We have two members of the public who have their hands up. 232 00:24:42.510 --> 00:24:51.690 robertthibodeau: It Mr puppets been very patient, and we have a caller on a two and three, Mr puppet Can you see you've already spoken a couple of times, can you be patient for a couple one more minute here. 233 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:58.440 robertthibodeau: i'm going to let 213 speak and then you'll be next okay and let's everybody oh two and three went off. 234 00:24:59.580 --> 00:25:05.430 robertthibodeau: up, it is still okay let's try and keep it on topic and i'm going to hit a lot of talk. 235 00:25:07.380 --> 00:25:08.760 robertthibodeau: yeah yes. 236 00:25:11.040 --> 00:25:14.640 Goat Puppet: that's right, so now we know the truth. 237 00:25:15.750 --> 00:25:21.480 Goat Puppet: it's the police chief that's the big culprit it's not my own and. 238 00:25:22.890 --> 00:25:36.180 Goat Puppet: I can't believe you Michael Moore is broken my heart is broken my heart that's right we just heard from the problem So yes, and you know police officers in La they never lie. 239 00:25:37.500 --> 00:25:54.930 Goat Puppet: Yes, like former reserve officer my favorite guy Mitchell englander he was a he was a good cop, what happened to him, he should you should put him on those details and i'm sure he'd like to do it, but these these humans here they kicked out of their councilman. 240 00:25:55.980 --> 00:26:12.840 Goat Puppet: Their councilman as Mike bond and he's a mental case, so they don't have any remedy in Venice So what are you going to do you're going to keep giving the rope adult, no, no, no, no, no, you do what they do up in Santa clarita. 241 00:26:13.890 --> 00:26:19.770 Goat Puppet: They just come out one morning but that army at those large code tracks that just time anyway. 242 00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:28.500 Goat Puppet: As the homeless criminals go stop stop and then the Sheriff show up and go get away Sir stops. 243 00:26:29.730 --> 00:26:48.690 Goat Puppet: And then they get arrested, beaten and putting in the back of a car, yes, look at the beautiful streets of Santa clarita new whole new whole simi valley simi Valley, yes, the list goes on oh that looks like a shithole it's The only point. 244 00:26:49.260 --> 00:26:55.830 robertthibodeau: Thanks when this happened, I got it I got another person with the handout you got got that Thank you. 245 00:26:56.370 --> 00:26:57.450 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Was there a question in there. 246 00:26:58.770 --> 00:27:00.720 Goat Puppet: yeah, we want a new police chief. 247 00:27:03.450 --> 00:27:03.960 All right. 248 00:27:06.360 --> 00:27:09.750 robertthibodeau: Mr mirror is asked to unmute. 249 00:27:11.610 --> 00:27:13.980 jim murez: I can, I can unmute myself but that's okay. 250 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:17.730 jim murez: I have a quick question that i'm curious if if. 251 00:27:18.750 --> 00:27:34.980 jim murez: The the the surgeon has any idea of when the safe camping sites that they're making for our visas going to become available over in the airport district area. 252 00:27:39.540 --> 00:27:40.380 jim murez: that's my question. 253 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:42.660 Good question. 254 00:27:50.910 --> 00:27:56.070 robertthibodeau: asked to unmute sorry about that sergeant Jeff loving. 255 00:27:56.820 --> 00:27:57.780 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Oh, there you go, can you hear me. 256 00:27:58.260 --> 00:27:59.370 Jonathan Deer: Now yeah. 257 00:27:59.460 --> 00:28:11.070 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Okay, so I have heard about that what you're what you're speaking of I have not received any definitive information on it, yet so far it's it's rumors and what I want to say rumors but I know it's a. 258 00:28:11.490 --> 00:28:27.690 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: there's a number of things right now there are a number of things that are in the process as they relate to our movies and and and encampments and crime reduction but nothing, nothing definitive at this point regarding regarding a safe camping site. 259 00:28:28.950 --> 00:28:37.170 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: And, and nothing definitive at this point, coming from the top, the top of our organization with how we're going to you know impound vehicles i'd say. 260 00:28:37.470 --> 00:28:46.050 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: To the to the earlier question i'd say, probably the best route to get some answers on that would be the Bureau police commissioner's or the mayor's office, frankly, because. 261 00:28:46.470 --> 00:28:53.550 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: we're we're we're beholden to what what they're they're doing and then we're going to go from there, once we get the directive but. 262 00:28:54.030 --> 00:29:01.920 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: But at this point I haven't heard anything on the safe camping thing there's enough like I said there's a number of things in development, right now, and I there's been a lot of broad strokes, but I haven't seen the finer points yet. 263 00:29:03.090 --> 00:29:17.340 robertthibodeau: Okay i'm bored any more questions do we want to make, we had a possible motion I don't know if we want to make the motion if we just want to leave this as an informational thing find to do it, however, you guys want. 264 00:29:19.590 --> 00:29:25.920 Elizabeth Clay: sorry that we keep it informational because I don't think any emotion, we could make would go anywhere. 265 00:29:27.120 --> 00:29:29.730 Elizabeth Clay: Because I have more information. 266 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:32.100 Elizabeth Clay: They were receiving today. 267 00:29:33.270 --> 00:29:33.540 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: yeah. 268 00:29:34.620 --> 00:29:35.040 Elizabeth Clay: yeah. 269 00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.370 Jonathan Deer: What what what what information do you have. 270 00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.000 Jonathan Deer: Elizabeth that suggests we don't want to do anything here. 271 00:29:46.470 --> 00:29:55.500 Elizabeth Clay: Look, I I stopped at one of the lots near the airport that was being graded out by the city and I know that it's going to be used for cars in our movies so. 272 00:29:57.120 --> 00:29:58.080 If that helps. 273 00:29:59.700 --> 00:30:03.900 Elizabeth Clay: there's there's going to be a push in the near future to put things there. 274 00:30:04.260 --> 00:30:08.160 Jonathan Deer: Okay, why, why would Why would us encouraging that push. 275 00:30:08.940 --> 00:30:09.990 Jonathan Deer: Because in any way. 276 00:30:10.050 --> 00:30:20.790 Elizabeth Clay: That would be like that there's anyone that's in city 11 listening right now Tristan you know she's she was our only real lifeline in there. 277 00:30:21.420 --> 00:30:21.960 as well. 278 00:30:23.610 --> 00:30:25.350 Jonathan Deer: In my view, going on record. 279 00:30:25.800 --> 00:30:28.050 Elizabeth Clay: Sure yeah it just. 280 00:30:28.650 --> 00:30:35.490 Jonathan Deer: As valuable anyway, you know, there are people that will be coming into CD 11 soon and they'll that'll give them more support. 281 00:30:36.990 --> 00:30:39.300 Elizabeth Clay: yeah this would be done, like the lower they move in. 282 00:30:39.360 --> 00:30:41.550 robertthibodeau: yeah if you want to make the motion make them okay. 283 00:30:41.580 --> 00:30:42.390 Elizabeth Clay: yeah yeah. 284 00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:47.490 Jonathan Deer: I thought, maybe there are some specific which you did tell us so. 285 00:30:47.490 --> 00:30:48.990 Elizabeth Clay: I didn't have that information. 286 00:30:48.990 --> 00:31:01.440 Elizabeth Clay: Before so knowing that means to cities put it into gear, but also means they're going to clam up and they're not going to tell you what their plans are I mean I just totally stumbled across the whole thing when I was touring lots and. 287 00:31:01.890 --> 00:31:11.040 Elizabeth Clay: Only because I talked to the guy on the grading machine did I find out what it was all about so otherwise, none of us who know that even the sergeant. 288 00:31:13.230 --> 00:31:14.430 Elizabeth Clay: You go all right. 289 00:31:14.610 --> 00:31:20.520 Jonathan Deer: And I see my last comment is thank you sergeant for helping us out, we appreciate you. 290 00:31:20.790 --> 00:31:32.100 robertthibodeau: yeah we done here with a short notice, we do appreciate it, and you, you I think you get the concerns of the Community, you know it's I know we're not unique you know this happening all over the city and. 291 00:31:32.820 --> 00:31:39.630 robertthibodeau: And you guys must be sick of hearing about it, but you know zone, we just got all we got we're trying to try to. 292 00:31:41.070 --> 00:31:51.030 robertthibodeau: move things along to a cleaner cleaner, safer neighborhood and a cleaner neighbor safer city really so thank you very much for attending. 293 00:31:52.290 --> 00:31:54.270 Sgt Jeff Lovick-LAPD Pacific: Thank you yeah so. 294 00:31:54.990 --> 00:32:03.930 Jonathan Deer: And then you know I would, in terms of possible motion I you know I might we might revise this motion a little bit. 295 00:32:04.950 --> 00:32:16.380 Jonathan Deer: And you know, specifically direct our request to the in addition to the what's listed here in general, you know, specifically to the Bureau police commissioner's. 296 00:32:17.670 --> 00:32:18.300 Jonathan Deer: as well. 297 00:32:19.410 --> 00:32:26.730 robertthibodeau: So you'd like to amend the motion to add the Bureau police commissioner's can you, you make a note of that, since you've taken the notes. 298 00:32:26.790 --> 00:32:29.550 robertthibodeau: yeah and are you the motion maker, then. 299 00:32:30.030 --> 00:32:31.200 Jonathan Deer: Sure yeah I. 300 00:32:32.610 --> 00:32:49.290 Jonathan Deer: I moved to request district 11 councilman lapd the Bureau of police commissioner's and parking enforcement to comply with City Council motion 21 0956 and resume enforcement by citation and telling of abandoned and oversized vehicles. 301 00:32:50.580 --> 00:32:58.170 robertthibodeau: And i'll second that motion I do see a goat Mr puppets handy up again. 302 00:32:59.610 --> 00:33:15.030 robertthibodeau: I believe we've all spoken on this, but I think just in terms of protocol, we should allow him to speak again for a minute, and then, if there's any board comment specifically on the motion and keep that pretty brief and then we'll take a vote okay is everybody okay with that. 303 00:33:16.380 --> 00:33:20.850 robertthibodeau: yeah I see some nods okay so Mr profit, you are on. 304 00:33:22.020 --> 00:33:22.710 Goat Puppet: it's a hall. 305 00:33:26.010 --> 00:33:45.570 Goat Puppet: So unfortunately we've lost the war, yes, before my bone and leaves he's gonna forever put that storage in the middle of the La X, but it's not the Bureau of police commissioner's, no, no, no, no it's or. 306 00:33:46.830 --> 00:33:58.200 Goat Puppet: Los Angeles police Commission known as the police Commission and one of the Members just Steve sober off who still live in your district. 307 00:33:59.010 --> 00:34:26.070 Goat Puppet: Make it CC to hamp because he endorsed Karen bass, instead of the billionaire J K l road so that's bullshit no it's true so Steve has lost his mind so be sure to direct your attention to that yes, Steve sober off loves homeless criminals it's the same day for la isn't that. 308 00:34:27.120 --> 00:34:34.290 Goat Puppet: The skies are getting darker on us, yes, but if you can move, you can get top dollar for your House. 309 00:34:34.350 --> 00:34:35.370 robertthibodeau: hey Mr puppet. 310 00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:36.210 robertthibodeau: we're gonna happen at. 311 00:34:36.720 --> 00:34:37.440 Goat Puppet: any time to. 312 00:34:39.030 --> 00:34:40.350 Goat Puppet: Leave or you can. 313 00:34:44.190 --> 00:34:51.390 Jonathan Deer: So actually someone somewhere in there, there was something helpful, which is that it's not bureau export I just looked it up, and it is board. 314 00:34:52.350 --> 00:34:55.230 robertthibodeau: And we appreciate that okay board comment. 315 00:34:57.720 --> 00:35:05.040 robertthibodeau: I don't see anybody raising a hand on the panelists so let's bring it to a vote john. 316 00:35:06.540 --> 00:35:07.050 Jonathan Deer: Yes. 317 00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:09.660 robertthibodeau: allison. 318 00:35:12.540 --> 00:35:13.200 robertthibodeau: allison. 319 00:35:14.730 --> 00:35:15.690 robertthibodeau: allison is muted. 320 00:35:16.110 --> 00:35:18.540 Jonathan Deer: you're muted, even though you're unmuted we can't hear you. 321 00:35:20.640 --> 00:35:24.570 robertthibodeau: Yes, we see a thumbs up the universe to sign up yes Elizabeth. 322 00:35:25.170 --> 00:35:25.710 Yes. 323 00:35:26.970 --> 00:35:27.570 robertthibodeau: Evan. 324 00:35:29.010 --> 00:35:30.450 Evan Corrigan: Vehicles yes. 325 00:35:31.170 --> 00:35:37.620 robertthibodeau: and myself, yes, Sir 500. 326 00:35:38.910 --> 00:35:40.230 robertthibodeau: Motion passes. 327 00:35:43.650 --> 00:35:47.220 robertthibodeau: Do did officer, is he still here. 328 00:35:48.240 --> 00:35:48.900 robertthibodeau: left. 329 00:35:49.950 --> 00:35:57.780 robertthibodeau: Okay, we have, I thought would be the sort of code joining motion that Elizabeth put on here. 330 00:35:59.490 --> 00:36:07.530 robertthibodeau: Maybe you can discuss it it's the number, you know what Elizabeth you want to hold on for seconds, we lost officer. 331 00:36:09.030 --> 00:36:11.220 robertthibodeau: Now i'm forgetting this no worries yeah. 332 00:36:11.310 --> 00:36:12.930 Elizabeth Clay: Getting back on because I think. 333 00:36:13.020 --> 00:36:16.830 robertthibodeau: I think we've got Dave pigeon in the crowd who's got emotion. 334 00:36:20.250 --> 00:36:23.160 robertthibodeau: Which is, you have a couple of people. 335 00:36:23.490 --> 00:36:25.860 robertthibodeau: From the Community who brought motions here. 336 00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:31.470 robertthibodeau: So we've got a Houston Wilson, are you here. 337 00:36:33.120 --> 00:36:34.770 robertthibodeau: raise your hand if you're here Houston. 338 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:44.190 robertthibodeau: hey I don't see you so we're going to plant you, for the moment, because you got to speak on your own motions, we have Daniels ox. 339 00:36:45.540 --> 00:36:48.660 robertthibodeau: Daniel are you here, yes, you are you're Daniel aren't you. 340 00:36:51.300 --> 00:37:03.840 robertthibodeau: Yes, you have your hand up okay Daniels come to us with the traffic slowing idea on Abbot kinney between Venice and Washington, this is Item number eight Daniel i'm going to allow you to talk here. 341 00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:09.450 robertthibodeau: And if you need to share a screen, let me know. 342 00:37:10.170 --> 00:37:11.220 Daniel: Sure hi can you hear me I. 343 00:37:11.790 --> 00:37:12.480 robertthibodeau: can hear you. 344 00:37:13.050 --> 00:37:16.980 Daniel: Yes, I guess it's speeding and some other just elements between. 345 00:37:18.510 --> 00:37:31.740 Daniel: Venice and correlate on avid Kenny, I sort of just yeah I can share my screen, I made a sort of the to have my thoughts, clear and just to show some examples video and stuff but depends on my time. 346 00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:35.280 Daniel: So I don't know how to share a PowerPoint but. 347 00:37:36.330 --> 00:37:37.170 Daniel: Can you see it. 348 00:37:37.680 --> 00:37:39.450 robertthibodeau: You are promoted to a panelist. 349 00:37:39.720 --> 00:37:46.980 robertthibodeau: Okay, what you can do at this point is, you can hit the green screen share button and then you you. 350 00:37:47.790 --> 00:37:48.600 robertthibodeau: can choose. 351 00:37:48.630 --> 00:37:54.330 robertthibodeau: When you hit screen share, you can choose which window, you want to share so you don't have to share your whole desktop. 352 00:38:05.640 --> 00:38:06.330 robertthibodeau: Lucas. 353 00:38:16.500 --> 00:38:17.820 robertthibodeau: you're doing perfect Daniel. 354 00:38:20.220 --> 00:38:22.590 robertthibodeau: I gotta yell at my kid for a second, so you carry on. 355 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:26.160 Jonathan Deer: yeah and and Daniel you're muted so we're not hearing you at all. 356 00:38:29.100 --> 00:38:29.610 Daniel: There we go. 357 00:38:30.060 --> 00:38:30.480 Daniel: you hear me. 358 00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:32.460 Jonathan Deer: Yes. 359 00:38:32.550 --> 00:38:34.680 Daniel: Okay i'm sorry about that, so I don't know. 360 00:38:35.790 --> 00:38:42.090 Daniel: shamelessly do this anyway advocate he's dangerous he was some statistics, I found. 361 00:38:43.560 --> 00:38:47.850 Daniel: You know Los Angeles i'm sure you guys know if there's any like in in Venice. 362 00:38:49.020 --> 00:39:02.310 Daniel: But it's gotten worse, the area i'm talking about is right here it's it's the curb from you know Venice to Washington quarter lane I just was going to talk about these three colored squares. 363 00:39:03.570 --> 00:39:15.360 Daniel: Cars are driving too fast it's dangerous everybody's driving too fast between the quantity and the speed and the lack of like features like protective features for pedestrians it's very dangerous for people walking and bicyclists. 364 00:39:16.560 --> 00:39:27.210 Daniel: The speed limits 30 every people go 40 to 50 when they have the chance um, this is the curb I mean I have, I have video that. 365 00:39:29.640 --> 00:39:35.400 Daniel: Now these cars are definitely just behind each other so they're sticking to the speed. 366 00:39:40.590 --> 00:39:47.400 Daniel: The they just put in these asphalt lanes which i'm sure everybody seen for bikes and electric bikes and stuff. 367 00:39:47.670 --> 00:40:07.590 Daniel: But what's happened is is there's no actual bike lanes it's just the share rose, you know, which is the shared arrows too dumb name, but the shares are on there for bikes and so it's become almost like a way for people to go faster because half the lane is asphalt now. 368 00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:24.570 Daniel: i'm what's happened is because people are going faster i'm talking about this yellow area, right here, near mar street there's this crosswalk, and this is me trying to go across the crosswalk. 369 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:26.790 Daniel: With my dog. 370 00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.720 Daniel: So I push the button and no one stops. 371 00:40:33.180 --> 00:40:38.190 Daniel: i'm sure everyone's experienced it they finally stopped um. 372 00:40:41.550 --> 00:40:47.670 Daniel: here's my second another attempt another day I pushed the button no one's stopping. 373 00:40:48.870 --> 00:40:49.770 Daniel: Nobody is stopping. 374 00:40:53.100 --> 00:41:03.960 Daniel: i'm here is a woman she's not a plant I just saw captured her she's pushed it and all these people are going she has to basically. 375 00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:10.740 Daniel: Wait now she obviously lives here she's not a tourist she knows the deal, no one's going to stop now she goes as quick as she can. 376 00:41:11.070 --> 00:41:30.180 Daniel: They stopped and off she goes, this is super dangerous this crosswalk um many people have almost gotten hit here and I was told that someone was killed here at Shell in Venice not too long ago, and so this whole high intensity light was playing, which is what I actually think. 377 00:41:30.180 --> 00:41:44.340 Daniel: needs to be put in there that's just one idea but um yeah I don't want to take too much time, but you know this whole section, this is the shero here and a cyclist you know here, and then a Porsche behind him. 378 00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:55.770 Daniel: and basically the weight this design people have to go into the middle of the street, to avoid cyclists cyclists have to avoid cars. 379 00:41:56.280 --> 00:42:04.560 Daniel: And I just see so many other areas of La where there's actually lanes, of course, this is our main you know Venice an Abbot kinney. 380 00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:14.520 Daniel: A couple of months ago there was a i'm forgetting the name of it, the car spinning around in here, which is just absolutely nuts and it's because it's such a huge intersection. 381 00:42:15.030 --> 00:42:25.470 Daniel: there's no bike boxes here's a bicyclist here, who has to pull out in front and go around because it's scary to sit there we have bike lanes that are ending. 382 00:42:25.740 --> 00:42:35.640 Daniel: And not continuing and there's no safe place to go so he's sitting in the you know, and I and here's where they caught the asphalt right here and there's just nothing. 383 00:42:36.240 --> 00:42:47.160 Daniel: um so all of this is like this speeding and then no features, this is Mars street where you saw the woman crossing there's no sidewalks there's no um. 384 00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:54.660 Daniel: bike lanes so, and this is that path that goes from Abbot kinney that connects North and South, Venice. 385 00:42:54.900 --> 00:43:02.430 Daniel: And there's just no thought going into the plan here, nobody can you know you come in here, people were coming around the corner. 386 00:43:02.670 --> 00:43:14.910 Daniel: And it's very dangerous so i'm just pointing out, yes, the speeding, but also that there needs to be more features to slow people down more crosswalks better protected curbs. 387 00:43:15.090 --> 00:43:16.500 Daniel: And what I just learned. 388 00:43:18.060 --> 00:43:19.890 Daniel: That they just came out with this. 389 00:43:21.660 --> 00:43:25.230 Daniel: This research from Bloomberg on is painted. 390 00:43:26.070 --> 00:43:35.010 Daniel: asphalt, and they just this the first research that shows that it it decreases road user crashes by 50% which is wild. 391 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:46.110 Daniel: And it seems like Dennis is like the perfect place for doing this like literally would be amazing and we have murals everywhere um so i'm just sort of bringing that up. 392 00:43:46.560 --> 00:43:54.750 Daniel: On this is beverly hills they put slow street you know it's just like they're slow streets that's like a fantasy of mind to have like advocacy and then. 393 00:43:55.350 --> 00:44:02.400 Daniel: This is another thing could we have that it can be you know I hear every once in a while someone saying this, but a walking street you know to sort of. 394 00:44:03.030 --> 00:44:17.190 Daniel: Get people excited about what it could be like instead of prioritizing cars and then I came from Chicago this is Argyle street where they actually made a choice to change this through street into something quite beautiful and walkable. 395 00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:18.660 yeah. 396 00:44:21.390 --> 00:44:40.050 robertthibodeau: Nice presentation um do you have specifics on the slowing aspect, I mean I see suggestions in terms of the murals and you talked about lanes, I assume, those would be painted bike lanes, rather than the shadows, as you go. 397 00:44:40.170 --> 00:44:43.710 Daniel: I think it's all connected i'm not an urban planner, but I think if. 398 00:44:43.740 --> 00:44:52.140 Daniel: We have painted curbs if we if we have curves out on some of these intersections with that are painted I think that something more than shero is to have. 399 00:44:52.470 --> 00:44:55.650 Daniel: bicycle you know proper bike lanes I think people will. 400 00:44:56.370 --> 00:45:06.390 Daniel: I could be wrong, but I think that the more you narrow the street that people slow down effectively, obviously, but the street between its width and this curve. 401 00:45:07.530 --> 00:45:23.430 Daniel: It it really becomes a kind of it gives people more incentive to to because they know they can they'll speed and and then so it all compounds the walking across not being you know people not having the proper. 402 00:45:23.940 --> 00:45:32.190 Daniel: signals to alert the drivers, the drivers going too fast someone's going to get killed like at that at that process like it's just. 403 00:45:32.520 --> 00:45:38.640 Daniel: there's been too many close calls that i've witnessed so as far as like what to do, I don't have all the answers, but I think like. 404 00:45:38.910 --> 00:45:58.200 Daniel: If nothing else, protect the pedestrians that that crosswalk try to you know narrow Abbot kinney they're on more than share those and then this mural idea I think you could start putting everywhere, I mean, I think it will, as they found will slow people down and just make it. 405 00:45:59.520 --> 00:46:04.380 Daniel: less of a not let people just drive fast everywhere yeah. 406 00:46:06.600 --> 00:46:09.390 robertthibodeau: Okay um let's open it up to. 407 00:46:11.010 --> 00:46:19.380 robertthibodeau: Questions from the public, I think, and then, if there's comments from the Board will do that, after so i'm going to. 408 00:46:20.610 --> 00:46:28.170 robertthibodeau: Look at participants again for a second and i'm going to Mr puppets got his hand up, we have Sam off that we have Theresa. 409 00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:34.230 robertthibodeau: con row let's start with Teresa allowed to talk. 410 00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:36.420 robertthibodeau: Teresa welcome. 411 00:46:37.410 --> 00:46:44.820 Teresa Conrow/Lee Ann Goya (she,her): hi i'm i'm one of the neighbors that uses that crosswalk and I just want to say that. 412 00:46:45.210 --> 00:46:46.350 robertthibodeau: interview Teresa. 413 00:46:47.490 --> 00:46:50.940 robertthibodeau: Oh good yeah I love writing a relative basically at that corner. 414 00:46:51.240 --> 00:46:51.870 Okay. 415 00:46:53.010 --> 00:47:07.110 Teresa Conrow/Lee Ann Goya (she,her): Besides the art stuff it's something that was mentioned but It just seems so simple and so important is just putting the sidewalk in where the sidewalk is supposed to be so, what happens is you use that crosswalk. 416 00:47:07.530 --> 00:47:13.980 Teresa Conrow/Lee Ann Goya (she,her): And people use it all the time to walk to the beach to the canals and as soon as you're across the crosswalk. 417 00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:25.800 Teresa Conrow/Lee Ann Goya (she,her): There is no sidewalk right there is, what is it more I think jamar street so on one side on the left, you can see all the bushes So that is where a sidewalk should be. 418 00:47:26.070 --> 00:47:33.840 Teresa Conrow/Lee Ann Goya (she,her): And on the other side it's also got plants, and so you can't walk on the curb so you're forced to walk in the middle of the street. 419 00:47:34.200 --> 00:47:40.080 Teresa Conrow/Lee Ann Goya (she,her): there's a blind curve right there and it's a very short distance and then you see that white wall there. 420 00:47:40.380 --> 00:47:49.380 Teresa Conrow/Lee Ann Goya (she,her): that's the access, the only access to the canals and the beach and so to get to the canals and the beach you basically take your life in your hands on. 421 00:47:49.830 --> 00:47:58.950 Teresa Conrow/Lee Ann Goya (she,her): The area that he's talking about where the the the artwork could be that could slow down the traffic or some sort of signage or painting on the curbs for the bike lanes. 422 00:47:59.310 --> 00:48:09.600 Teresa Conrow/Lee Ann Goya (she,her): In addition, just put the friggin sidewalk in where the access is there for the sidewalk and so that you can get out of the way of the cars coming through there where they don't ever stop. 423 00:48:09.990 --> 00:48:29.310 Teresa Conrow/Lee Ann Goya (she,her): So i've often felt like i'm going to get killed walking across there and i'm just waiting for the time and then we do have one neighbor, who was a young girl, this is leanne Goya and aren't we the right in the area, so our neighbor she had a five year old, who is writing her. 424 00:48:31.020 --> 00:48:40.170 Teresa Conrow/Lee Ann Goya (she,her): Like what no it's a scooter oh this scooting got the I forgot what it's a rental school no not a rental it's like a kid scooter Oh, because she was five years old. 425 00:48:40.410 --> 00:48:52.380 Teresa Conrow/Lee Ann Goya (she,her): And they had the right away, and they went out to arm off the street, and someone came off because you're right on to advocate kinney and encrypt her so the girl over her bike her scooter. 426 00:48:53.280 --> 00:49:05.370 Teresa Conrow/Lee Ann Goya (she,her): Unfortunately, she was, I mean she had like injuries didn't break anything but it was so traumatic like the mom was just traumatic like to cross so when we process it we're always waving our hands. 427 00:49:06.150 --> 00:49:07.620 Teresa Conrow/Lee Ann Goya (she,her): You know we're standing there waiting. 428 00:49:07.860 --> 00:49:16.080 robertthibodeau: I hear you guys in a you know what I think we're going to take up the more issue we've taken it up in the past, I think we're going to take it up again at a near. 429 00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:25.020 robertthibodeau: Future meeting likely that will not be until the first Monday of July, but I think we're going to take up the the sidewalk on mar again okay. 430 00:49:25.080 --> 00:49:29.700 robertthibodeau: um, but we have two more hands up so i'm going to. 431 00:49:31.140 --> 00:49:42.420 robertthibodeau: say thank you for your public comment and we're gonna get to Sam off it and then go Mr go, you are going to be next so let's do it, yes, thank you both. 432 00:49:42.510 --> 00:49:42.750 yeah. 433 00:49:47.580 --> 00:49:50.400 robertthibodeau: Sam I think you're you should be able to unmute and talk. 434 00:49:50.490 --> 00:49:59.850 Sam Moffitt: You should be able to hear me, I guess, let me know if you can't be, I just wanted to speak in support of everything that's been mentioned, thus far, I use this as a biker. 435 00:50:00.270 --> 00:50:12.150 Sam Moffitt: Rather than crossing it as a pedestrian, but it still scares me to break down every time on we tend to lack good like north, south bicycle connections throughout Venice. 436 00:50:12.570 --> 00:50:23.280 Sam Moffitt: And Africa needs, one of the few streets that does support that I think it's not really friendly to bicyclists even on the North side of that street, but at least it doesn't feel like you could get hit any minute. 437 00:50:24.930 --> 00:50:36.870 Sam Moffitt: The the curves and the road just along with going from a really wide streets to really narrow at some points just makes biking on it feel very unsafe and so. 438 00:50:37.200 --> 00:50:51.090 Sam Moffitt: I don't think we'll come to a resolution on to exactly what measures should be implemented in this meeting, but i'd be really interested to hear on what potential courses of action we might be able to take to mitigate that in the future. 439 00:50:52.530 --> 00:51:03.090 robertthibodeau: we're here and likely will continue this and maybe put our heads together on a few concrete ideas, no pun intended. 440 00:51:04.830 --> 00:51:21.510 robertthibodeau: You know, for a future meeting, including you know, maybe bike lane type stuff and certainly the MARS street issue, and maybe improvements it's that crosswalk i'm not sure we're going to get to all that design stuff tonight and nor am I really professional at that. 441 00:51:22.950 --> 00:51:30.210 robertthibodeau: So, but thank you very much and we're gonna let Mr puppet speak now i'm gonna hit a lot of talk, Mr puppet. 442 00:51:31.620 --> 00:51:32.040 robertthibodeau: Europe. 443 00:51:33.930 --> 00:51:39.810 Goat Puppet: yeah I never have a problem crossing their they stop every time. 444 00:51:41.520 --> 00:51:53.220 Goat Puppet: Why cuz you're an animal know the secret is bring a Donald trump sign with you and just hold it up Oh, they swam there burnings right on. 445 00:51:54.270 --> 00:52:04.470 Goat Puppet: And you get safely across the street, yes that's a hell of an idea that's my miracle, yes, and of course I would also suggest. 446 00:52:04.890 --> 00:52:29.790 Goat Puppet: Why not bring Michael new house in here, he seems to know about engineering, maybe he can devise a new plan I think he's running for my bonus see he used to be the President of the West la neighborhood Council he knows about how to get graph through here, he knows about developers. 447 00:52:30.810 --> 00:52:36.600 Goat Puppet: Another great idea that's right God puppet I just fixed your problem. 448 00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:46.980 robertthibodeau: Okay yeah do you have more Mr puppet. 449 00:52:48.990 --> 00:52:51.000 Goat Puppet: Or you enjoy invoicing Michael new house. 450 00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:53.550 Goat Puppet: I almost don't have any. 451 00:52:55.530 --> 00:52:56.910 Goat Puppet: Other people are demons. 452 00:52:58.080 --> 00:52:59.460 Teresa Conrow/Lee Ann Goya (she,her): Conservative yeah. 453 00:52:59.850 --> 00:53:00.810 robertthibodeau: Nice all right. 454 00:53:00.930 --> 00:53:08.760 robertthibodeau: i'm gonna close public comment, I believe, unless i'm missing somebody I don't think I am and. 455 00:53:12.210 --> 00:53:19.560 robertthibodeau: Do we have any board comment on this, I mean, I think we all know, the issue here. 456 00:53:20.100 --> 00:53:21.690 robertthibodeau: yeah there's a bit your hand is up. 457 00:53:23.250 --> 00:53:24.150 robertthibodeau: You want to unmute. 458 00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:32.280 Elizabeth Clay: yeah i'm in the same boat as you I live right around the corner and I want to dogs. 459 00:53:32.520 --> 00:53:42.750 Elizabeth Clay: Along Mars street and we dig in and out of those bushes like we really it's like a game of frog are trying to get to that corner used to be able to go through French market but they fenced off since. 460 00:53:43.380 --> 00:53:48.540 Elizabeth Clay: A 45 took it over so that's not a little cut through anymore, for your safety. 461 00:53:48.780 --> 00:54:05.790 Elizabeth Clay: So we literally only have that road to access to Abbot kinney or we can walk past the encampment of Venice boulevard like there's that option to you could go through the arby's and it's it's kinda it's like a video game trying to get to the Nice part of that but Kenny, I couldn't. 462 00:54:06.900 --> 00:54:12.060 Elizabeth Clay: I couldn't agree more that we got, we have to slow traffic to especially at night. 463 00:54:13.380 --> 00:54:24.030 Elizabeth Clay: I think it'd be even better if it was something that was really lit up you know to to curb things in and because that's really when it becomes a speedway is in the evening. 464 00:54:25.620 --> 00:54:28.320 Elizabeth Clay: Anyway, we've got lots to talk about, but I totally endorse it. 465 00:54:30.720 --> 00:54:32.280 robertthibodeau: And now Evan. 466 00:54:33.720 --> 00:54:36.540 robertthibodeau: You should be able to unmute there yep. 467 00:54:36.930 --> 00:54:42.240 Evan Corrigan: i'm here, I totally agree with everything like I bike down that street a lot. 468 00:54:43.770 --> 00:55:03.000 Evan Corrigan: there's a Center median and i'm wondering if it's not really necessary, like can centrally be taken away and protected bike lanes be put in the narrowing of the road helps with you know traffic calming things like that, and it would just be much safer for cyclists. 469 00:55:04.410 --> 00:55:07.770 Evan Corrigan: On the crosswalks to Mars like a very scary street. 470 00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:13.260 Evan Corrigan: I think definitely the sidewalks but possibly raised. 471 00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:28.770 Evan Corrigan: crosswalks which is common and other countries kind of denotes that to space for pedestrians and cars, take note of it and see it and slow down almost like the speed bump when it's not in use. 472 00:55:30.300 --> 00:55:40.050 Evan Corrigan: I definitely like to to explore this more, and I think there's so many opportunities there and such a big big street so thanks so much Daniel for for putting that together. 473 00:55:41.340 --> 00:55:41.640 Evan Corrigan: Thank you. 474 00:55:44.700 --> 00:55:57.930 robertthibodeau: Sorry, you lost me for a second there um it it, I think we all agree, for the need of this my thought would be that we saw very nice presentation and maybe we can come up. 475 00:55:59.490 --> 00:56:00.900 robertthibodeau: With some. 476 00:56:02.070 --> 00:56:15.630 robertthibodeau: specifics and in a meeting forward and then move those on to Department of Transportation and see if we can get them engaged at all in all, or none of it, I already had more on. 477 00:56:16.680 --> 00:56:21.270 robertthibodeau: i've been contacted about mark for future agenda the trick with mark is that. 478 00:56:22.620 --> 00:56:39.180 robertthibodeau: i've never i've lived on Mars well a couple years ago and it's not really clear where the public versus private property lines are when people are talking about sidewalk on the bushes actually don't know how much of that is public public property of private property. 479 00:56:40.350 --> 00:56:49.050 robertthibodeau: At one point, time there was a suggestion made that that the only one way traffic, so that you could actually get a sidewalk in there that might be a possible solution. 480 00:56:49.680 --> 00:57:06.510 robertthibodeau: Now I know that living on Mars, that would have been a little bit of a bummer not being able to come and go book both directions, because you are limited over there and that that would make you have to circulate all the way around, but maybe that is, the better. 481 00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:09.150 robertthibodeau: Not a great situation. 482 00:57:10.200 --> 00:57:10.620 robertthibodeau: and 483 00:57:11.850 --> 00:57:21.120 robertthibodeau: So, I guess, I would like to make a motion to continue this forward to the next meeting, and maybe we work on it as a committee, a little bit and stay. 484 00:57:22.350 --> 00:57:25.350 robertthibodeau: in touch with Daniel on his suggestions as well. 485 00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:40.140 Jonathan Deer: yeah you don't need emotion is this Chair, you can just do that um I you know I you know I recall our committee looking specifically at mar a number of times and. 486 00:57:41.580 --> 00:57:50.190 Jonathan Deer: You know, trying to address some circumstances, you know the same same issue that's been brought up and it definitely needs to be addressed Is there anyone, we can talk to. 487 00:57:50.610 --> 00:57:59.040 Jonathan Deer: I mean, I think we should, I agree with you marcia be a different meeting that they're two different issues, but they both need to be addressed, but so anyone, we can talk to about. 488 00:58:00.240 --> 00:58:07.410 Jonathan Deer: You know, we heard a lot of really good ideas, at least on their surface they look like really good ideas about advocacy any. 489 00:58:08.730 --> 00:58:18.780 Jonathan Deer: Is there any one we can talk to who is a planner that might help us sort of focusing, so we can figure out which ones at a future meeting to to maybe propose to the city. 490 00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:28.680 robertthibodeau: yeah sadly we've lost Alec Alec was probably the one who knew the most about this stuff and he's resigned his position. 491 00:58:29.940 --> 00:58:35.580 robertthibodeau: As a transportation coordination guy at bones office I don't know if that positions been filled. 492 00:58:36.750 --> 00:58:50.520 robertthibodeau: I could certainly reach out I do know some people at do T I don't know how public they are and whether I have reached out to them before for meetings with limited success, but I can try again that's the best I can do. 493 00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:56.760 Evan Corrigan: We could reach out to Eric rooms to another doing. 494 00:58:56.910 --> 00:59:04.410 robertthibodeau: plan for you mind doing that because he's been radio silent with me last couple times i've contacted him I haven't even gotten a response so i'm not sure what's up with him either. 495 00:59:05.850 --> 00:59:09.630 Evan Corrigan: And I don't i'd be happy to put together a few schematically overheads. 496 00:59:09.990 --> 00:59:10.770 Evan Corrigan: As well awesome. 497 00:59:11.430 --> 00:59:21.030 robertthibodeau: and stay in touch okay i'll make sure you're on the email with Daniel and maybe maybe that would be a good good starting point there. 498 00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:22.440 Evan Corrigan: yeah sounds good. 499 00:59:22.830 --> 00:59:41.730 robertthibodeau: Okay, so let's say to be continued and move on, we do have another member of the public here, who has brought something boards to us, thank you for being so patient on these items, you see what we got here you committee. 500 00:59:44.070 --> 00:59:47.220 robertthibodeau: One second you get caught up here attendees. 501 00:59:48.420 --> 00:59:51.780 robertthibodeau: Dave Dave pigeon has. 502 00:59:54.150 --> 00:59:57.690 robertthibodeau: Raw force got a. 503 00:59:59.670 --> 01:00:03.180 robertthibodeau: resident parking permit issues. 504 01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:05.100 robertthibodeau: For. 505 01:00:06.300 --> 01:00:21.870 robertthibodeau: Mr half area and i'm actually not sure exactly the radius or block he's talked I think I looked at it before so Dave i'm going to allow you to talk, you can present your idea me to share screen, let me know. 506 01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:34.500 Dave Pidgeon: thanks again for getting me on the agenda, I do have a map just a screenshot of a Google map that i've you know it's pretty self explanatory once I share the screen. 507 01:00:39.120 --> 01:00:40.140 Jonathan Deer: Robert you're muted. 508 01:00:43.410 --> 01:00:45.150 robertthibodeau: You are promoted to a panelist. 509 01:00:46.350 --> 01:00:53.190 robertthibodeau: Dave and you should be able to share your screen with that green arrow you familiar with zoom and, if not i'll walk you through it. 510 01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:56.670 well. 511 01:00:58.830 --> 01:00:59.250 Then. 512 01:01:13.980 --> 01:01:16.860 robertthibodeau: And then Dave you're muted, right now, you need to unmute yourself. 513 01:01:18.540 --> 01:01:19.950 Dave Pidgeon: There we go how about now. 514 01:01:20.310 --> 01:01:21.210 robertthibodeau: Perfect dude. 515 01:01:21.780 --> 01:01:23.250 Dave Pidgeon: Alright, so you guys can see the map. 516 01:01:24.450 --> 01:01:26.550 robertthibodeau: For oh see it very well very good. 517 01:01:27.120 --> 01:01:27.930 So. 518 01:01:30.900 --> 01:01:40.890 Dave Pidgeon: i've been in the same spot for about 12 years and the to our parking signs have always existed on 10 mar avenue between Venice boulevard all the way down as Anja. 519 01:01:42.210 --> 01:01:51.810 Dave Pidgeon: As soon as you get on zonda or you go over to walnut any of the other roads to the east, they don't have to our parking restrictions. 520 01:01:52.290 --> 01:02:08.880 Dave Pidgeon: As many of you probably know, right here behind dominoes pizza there is a one way only entrance you're not supposed to enter you can only head South Southwest you're not supposed to enter that way people obviously just blow through the sign. 521 01:02:10.470 --> 01:02:12.960 Dave Pidgeon: Use the alleyway and what have you but. 522 01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:15.180 Dave Pidgeon: The. 523 01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:20.160 Dave Pidgeon: Past three four years. 524 01:02:21.210 --> 01:02:29.550 Dave Pidgeon: A few places that were built as apartments or condos have become hospitals hmm and. 525 01:02:31.470 --> 01:02:37.530 Dave Pidgeon: At some point over like my 12 years here i'm going to say easily, for the first six to seven. 526 01:02:38.970 --> 01:02:46.770 Dave Pidgeon: There was never parking patrol on here so none of the neighbors who you know, had cars parked on the street had to worry about the two hour, because it was never patrolled. 527 01:02:47.340 --> 01:02:56.820 Dave Pidgeon: I was told somebody went to the Council, probably, this is going back five six years ago, at least, and complained about parking. 528 01:02:58.110 --> 01:03:08.340 Dave Pidgeon: there's been you know, over the years, new apartments going up so it's added you know a number of people living on the strip of Mr but. 529 01:03:09.390 --> 01:03:26.250 Dave Pidgeon: Most recently, within the last probably couple of months I don't know if the same person on penn mara's complained and wanted the patrol to come through more often, or if it's collectively because of the new hospitals that have popped up. 530 01:03:28.110 --> 01:03:38.880 Dave Pidgeon: That there are just a lot more cars, but the patrols are coming through almost weekly now and residents who have lived here for eight 910 15 years are getting tickets. 531 01:03:39.810 --> 01:03:57.300 Dave Pidgeon: And I think it goes without saying that more people are working from home, these days, which increases the amount of cars that are that are parked there, but I just find it interesting that if you go across Venice boulevard on Tamar avenue there's no to our parking and if you go east. 532 01:04:00.090 --> 01:04:21.030 Dave Pidgeon: Of 10 mar walnut Glenda and etc there's no to our parking there either or neurons Anja and I think what's happening is because of the to our parking on penn more you're now seeing a lot more people in these hospitals, like the haven co living if you can see that right down here circled. 533 01:04:22.770 --> 01:04:31.860 Dave Pidgeon: That was two three bedroom condos that were built about three years ago, four years ago and they went through about five realtors. 534 01:04:32.850 --> 01:04:40.290 Dave Pidgeon: couldn't get it sold think they wanted like three something million each for each of them, so what they did is they took that. 535 01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:45.060 Dave Pidgeon: Those two condos and, apparently, you can get on the web, you can get on the haven co living website. 536 01:04:45.630 --> 01:04:53.400 Dave Pidgeon: And they have another unit units somewhere and people basically pay 1000 or 1200 dollars a month month to month. 537 01:04:54.150 --> 01:05:12.420 Dave Pidgeon: And each of the three bedrooms has two bunk bed units and a single bed, so the maintenance guy told me at any given time right there and haven co living where there's two condos 30 people can be living in those two condos so the parking dynamics have changed. 538 01:05:14.070 --> 01:05:18.570 Dave Pidgeon: The allowable living situations of change. 539 01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:27.660 Dave Pidgeon: There is a apartment management company called common, who is now managing this unit of circle down there where somebody decided to say there's a bar on a rooftop. 540 01:05:28.620 --> 01:05:40.920 Dave Pidgeon: But they're now offering co living there as well, I saw you know garden, you know what do you call those a sandwich boards out front for common the group common offering co living now. 541 01:05:42.690 --> 01:05:43.410 Dave Pidgeon: and 542 01:05:44.550 --> 01:05:50.040 Dave Pidgeon: You know, interestingly enough walnut has this sign that you see up here in the right corner. 543 01:05:51.720 --> 01:05:56.100 Dave Pidgeon: Where it doesn't allow seven footer high you know overnight type rv parking. 544 01:05:57.360 --> 01:06:05.730 Dave Pidgeon: But blend in and the other ones don't have those so we have two hours, everyone needs to us does not have two hours. 545 01:06:06.780 --> 01:06:18.780 Dave Pidgeon: Everyone to the north and south of us does not have two hours and then these guys put in somehow they were able to get that seven foot high restriction sign put on walnut but that's the only place that it is so. 546 01:06:20.640 --> 01:06:28.830 Dave Pidgeon: I know a lot of the neighbors here would just like to see the two our parking signs go away, and I think if we were to be able to get a seven foot high. 547 01:06:30.120 --> 01:06:47.130 Dave Pidgeon: You know restriction for arby's sign put there I don't think we'd have any issues, and I think life would go back to somewhat normal and we'd stop you know, having to give the city 68 or $72 in taxes, every week or every other week. 548 01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:57.300 robertthibodeau: So understand your motion would, if there were emotion your emotion, would be to the removal of the to our parking. 549 01:06:58.590 --> 01:07:05.760 Dave Pidgeon: And to I guarantee you where we live, if you didn't add the seven foot high vehicle restriction sign. 550 01:07:07.290 --> 01:07:08.550 Dave Pidgeon: You would have. 551 01:07:09.570 --> 01:07:11.610 Dave Pidgeon: arby's would pull in quickly. 552 01:07:13.680 --> 01:07:15.480 robertthibodeau: Okay, so. 553 01:07:16.170 --> 01:07:24.810 Dave Pidgeon: This one I want what are on that as well not avenue has no to our parking and a seven foot vehicle restriction don't. 554 01:07:26.910 --> 01:07:27.600 working. 555 01:07:29.070 --> 01:07:33.630 robertthibodeau: And I think we call that oh hb overhyped vehicle was. 556 01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:41.310 Dave Pidgeon: And I looked into the preferential parking district, but it's super restrictive, you have to have like up to five or six blocks. 557 01:07:42.870 --> 01:07:48.630 Dave Pidgeon: That all you know opt in but none of the blocks are used to have this issue so. 558 01:07:50.370 --> 01:07:50.850 robertthibodeau: Okay. 559 01:07:52.200 --> 01:07:53.520 robertthibodeau: that's and then. 560 01:07:55.290 --> 01:08:01.080 robertthibodeau: Specifically, could you give me the specific so you gave me what you want, can you give me the where now. 561 01:08:01.740 --> 01:08:06.510 Dave Pidgeon: it's from Denmark Bulletin Panama avenue south. 562 01:08:07.980 --> 01:08:08.310 robertthibodeau: Ennis. 563 01:08:08.370 --> 01:08:15.120 Dave Pidgeon: of Venice boulevard all the way down is Andrea because Anja also does not have to our parking restrictions. 564 01:08:16.500 --> 01:08:33.030 robertthibodeau: I am a frequent user zonda locals know and no one else needs to know um okay so let's open this up to public comment Thank you well, I guess, do we make a motion, if we want to make emotion john. 565 01:08:36.390 --> 01:08:37.200 robertthibodeau: you're muted. 566 01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:44.430 Jonathan Deer: So I what I would like to see is I mean that that all sounds good, but I would like to have some. 567 01:08:45.900 --> 01:08:49.740 Jonathan Deer: sense of what the neighbors think about it too. 568 01:08:51.030 --> 01:08:59.100 Jonathan Deer: So I mean normally when we've taken actions we've had the property owners, you know actually bring us signatures and. 569 01:09:00.120 --> 01:09:08.970 Jonathan Deer: You know something signed by the neighbors saying that they want that, as well, I don't have any problem supporting it, but before I actually did a motion to support that. 570 01:09:09.750 --> 01:09:19.470 Jonathan Deer: For me anyway i'd like to see some you know i'd like to see some support from the from the neighbors saying yeah we all want this far least a bunch of them. 571 01:09:20.010 --> 01:09:25.140 Dave Pidgeon: yeah I know I can get 30 because the city allows 30 of them to live in two condos next two doors down. 572 01:09:25.590 --> 01:09:27.390 Dave Pidgeon: And i've got numbers. 573 01:09:28.650 --> 01:09:41.460 Jonathan Deer: No and that's great but but I mean that that helps us so that we so that we don't you know occasionally over the years we've taken an action without really taking the temperature and then people come screaming right away. 574 01:09:41.490 --> 01:09:58.380 Dave Pidgeon: yeah well somebody I was told somebody went to the Council and ask for more patrol more more often patrols of parking meter people and that happened and I don't think I don't think I don't think anybody in the neighborhood signed up for that. 575 01:09:59.130 --> 01:10:02.520 Jonathan Deer: yeah but but I mean it does sound like it'd be pretty easy for you to. 576 01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:11.430 Jonathan Deer: Just you know put you know put together the proposed motion which is real simple you know just motion to remove to our parking and replace it with. 577 01:10:12.060 --> 01:10:22.740 Jonathan Deer: No overhead vehicle signs from from that location in that location just gonna just get neighbors up and down the street, not just all from one building but that's fine but. 578 01:10:23.250 --> 01:10:24.570 Jonathan Deer: I don't disagree that sounds. 579 01:10:24.570 --> 01:10:24.810 Dave Pidgeon: Great. 580 01:10:25.380 --> 01:10:34.830 Dave Pidgeon: yeah it won't be difficult there's enough new new and existing apartment complexes on this trip of Mr that people are getting tickets to live there and. 581 01:10:35.430 --> 01:10:42.180 Jonathan Deer: You know I know just and what What about some individual property owners to can can you get some of those two. 582 01:10:42.840 --> 01:10:47.190 Dave Pidgeon: I i'll go from end to end yeah perfect. 583 01:10:47.460 --> 01:10:58.890 Jonathan Deer: Okay, I mean I that's what I like to say other other members of the committee might feel, otherwise I might be more willing to act today, but for me that's what i'd like to see him, then I definitely be willing to support it. 584 01:10:59.280 --> 01:11:06.420 robertthibodeau: I kind of I kind of agree with john I mean no problem, supporting this in principle, but, but he does raise a valid point that. 585 01:11:07.440 --> 01:11:10.290 robertthibodeau: You, you should take a sampling, you know and. 586 01:11:11.940 --> 01:11:26.730 Dave Pidgeon: Unfortunately, when you say when you put an emphasis on the individual Homeowners there are, they are the minority now on this block because so many homes have been turned into multi unit apartments or condos. 587 01:11:28.350 --> 01:11:32.550 Dave Pidgeon: So they're actually not they're not they're not actually the majority of the block anymore. 588 01:11:34.980 --> 01:11:40.710 robertthibodeau: yeah I don't I don't think I don't think he joined us to bring an emphasis on it, I think he was just pointing out that. 589 01:11:42.900 --> 01:11:43.650 robertthibodeau: When. 590 01:11:45.330 --> 01:11:50.820 robertthibodeau: When people do the like traffic calm at speed humps and those types of things. 591 01:11:52.170 --> 01:12:02.490 robertthibodeau: Typically they're they're getting a petition of 60% of i'm not sure if it's a resident to the Homeowners on the particular block it's one of the other. 592 01:12:03.150 --> 01:12:23.130 robertthibodeau: And i'm not asking for 60% nor is john, but I think he does want you to do outreach and pretty pretty obvious reasons, I mean you wouldn't want your neighbor to be passing some motion without sort of you know, at least, having been sort of you know, informed of it other than. 593 01:12:24.450 --> 01:12:28.050 robertthibodeau: A miscellaneous posting beyond broke. 594 01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:38.280 robertthibodeau: And so I mean I kind of support john here, you know I support YouTube, but I think john's got the right path, I don't think a month is going to kill you. 595 01:12:39.150 --> 01:12:54.930 robertthibodeau: And we will either be meeting on the first or second Monday of July, I think the fourth might mess up the first Monday i'm not 100% sure I gotta look the calendar, but that that'll be our next meeting and i'll keep i'll keep in touch with you on to. 596 01:12:55.560 --> 01:13:04.080 Dave Pidgeon: appreciate it, and I can just put together what just My own basic form for people to sign with addresses and all that kind of stuff are. 597 01:13:04.140 --> 01:13:05.640 robertthibodeau: You sure can okay. 598 01:13:06.750 --> 01:13:11.040 robertthibodeau: yeah maybe write down an address and the name and that's probably about it. 599 01:13:11.910 --> 01:13:15.450 Dave Pidgeon: Good i'll create some sort of form walk around and talk to people. 600 01:13:16.410 --> 01:13:22.830 robertthibodeau: Okay, thanks for presenting thanks for bringing it to us, and I look forward to talking to you next meeting. 601 01:13:23.160 --> 01:13:24.240 Dave Pidgeon: I appreciate it thanks for the help. 602 01:13:28.740 --> 01:13:33.780 robertthibodeau: Okay i'm gonna check i'm doing, we have we had a couple of more. 603 01:13:35.100 --> 01:13:40.230 robertthibodeau: we're going to try and finish this at nine which is my promise to all of you, if not before. 604 01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:46.590 robertthibodeau: Even if there's some outstanding things we're going to punch him but um we had a. 605 01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:55.350 robertthibodeau: I think it was another, we had a bike lane thing by a Houston Wilson Houston if you are in the audience. 606 01:13:57.570 --> 01:14:00.000 robertthibodeau: Please raise your hand. 607 01:14:01.440 --> 01:14:08.760 robertthibodeau: Go puppet I see raising your hand putting it down again i'm going to give you we didn't make a motion last time, Mr puppet so there was no. 608 01:14:09.810 --> 01:14:20.100 robertthibodeau: thing on the parking parking permits there's no motion to talk about that, when when these emerging and I don't see Mr Houston so we're gonna we're gonna pass on item seven. 609 01:14:21.210 --> 01:14:32.760 robertthibodeau: So if we can move fairly quickly we've got a couple here we've got number six which I put on here and. 610 01:14:34.590 --> 01:14:36.930 robertthibodeau: I thought we could propose. 611 01:14:38.370 --> 01:14:42.540 robertthibodeau: and make a budget request, if we can do that now, with the changing the. 612 01:14:45.570 --> 01:14:57.000 robertthibodeau: What is the treasure set what it was treasure, we might be able to slide in a very small budget request I did some online searching and you can do some certificates and stuff for under 100 bucks. 613 01:14:57.990 --> 01:15:05.760 robertthibodeau: I thought we could maybe do some sort of plaque or frame certificate of appreciation from the Venice neighborhood Council. 614 01:15:06.810 --> 01:15:24.990 robertthibodeau: For the Venice yard, of the street public street works for their service during book cove it in the homeless crisis, these are the people on the front lines trying their best to maintain things streets in Venice, and I would imagine it is no easy job these days. 615 01:15:26.010 --> 01:15:26.460 robertthibodeau: and 616 01:15:28.110 --> 01:15:39.390 robertthibodeau: Anyway, so that's item six and that's my presentation and let's open it up to public comment is to puppet I imagine you're going to go up here. 617 01:15:43.350 --> 01:15:46.740 robertthibodeau: Yes, okay allowed to talk here you go buddy. 618 01:15:48.450 --> 01:15:49.320 robertthibodeau: You are on. 619 01:15:49.590 --> 01:15:53.700 Goat Puppet: So we're not that everyone looks very sleepy, so we need to get it. 620 01:15:58.530 --> 01:16:09.900 Goat Puppet: So we have a new treasurer yes, the actor yes and he's so proud of that Gucci add that he did back 30 years ago Andrea yeah. 621 01:16:10.740 --> 01:16:26.880 Goat Puppet: Remember what he told us last year in July, no Oh, he said he was looking forward to being a catalyst, yes, now look what happens, less than a year, and he bailed on us. 622 01:16:27.540 --> 01:16:41.760 Goat Puppet: And we had to go today to have a special meeting today the bill puppet and the Miss because I had the torture, my good friend you'll sit below yes, as he awaits his paperwork from the FBI. 623 01:16:43.440 --> 01:16:47.550 Goat Puppet: What about that you know, on to say that oh i'm sorry that's another meeting. 624 01:16:49.290 --> 01:17:02.670 Goat Puppet: So again, we can slip the zoom because Jay handle yes J handle is handling your affairs, do you want to trust him, does he look like a snitch yep. 625 01:17:03.360 --> 01:17:18.660 Goat Puppet: He talks like a snitch definitely and as a snitch he deals with poise matters I don't think you should trust them but but, again, maybe you should take a chance Kevin wants to yes. 626 01:17:24.210 --> 01:17:26.790 robertthibodeau: You can't shut you down here buddy. 627 01:17:27.780 --> 01:17:28.260 robertthibodeau: Thank you. 628 01:17:30.870 --> 01:17:32.040 Goat Puppet: Oh, I was allowed to say. 629 01:17:34.950 --> 01:17:37.200 robertthibodeau: Okay, semi on subject there. 630 01:17:38.550 --> 01:17:42.090 robertthibodeau: Okay, your hand up again come on. 631 01:17:44.070 --> 01:17:51.630 robertthibodeau: Now we've got a board board comment on this do we have any support for this crazy concept. 632 01:17:53.580 --> 01:17:55.860 robertthibodeau: Mr dear I just. 633 01:17:56.100 --> 01:17:57.690 Jonathan Deer: it's a great idea i'm fine. 634 01:17:58.740 --> 01:17:59.250 robertthibodeau: Thank you. 635 01:18:00.270 --> 01:18:01.740 robertthibodeau: anybody else Evan. 636 01:18:02.670 --> 01:18:03.300 Nice. 637 01:18:05.220 --> 01:18:09.900 robertthibodeau: All right, well, it seems seems like that supportive with a vote so. 638 01:18:10.980 --> 01:18:20.910 robertthibodeau: I guess it was sort of my emotion so i'm going to read the motion and we'll keep this meeting moving motion to award a certificate of appreciation to the Venice yard. 639 01:18:23.010 --> 01:18:34.110 robertthibodeau: for keeping the streets of Venice clean during the pandemic and homeless crisis cost tbd I did do research, the positive, this is is nominal so let's. 640 01:18:35.550 --> 01:18:36.210 Elizabeth Clay: How second. 641 01:18:36.630 --> 01:18:37.560 robertthibodeau: Thank you Elizabeth. 642 01:18:38.670 --> 01:18:40.590 robertthibodeau: And let's put it to a vote john. 643 01:18:43.470 --> 01:18:44.160 robertthibodeau: allison. 644 01:18:44.970 --> 01:18:45.420 Yes. 645 01:18:46.980 --> 01:18:47.700 robertthibodeau: Elizabeth. 646 01:18:49.290 --> 01:18:49.890 Elizabeth Clay: Yes. 647 01:18:50.550 --> 01:18:52.140 Evan Corrigan: Kevin yes. 648 01:18:52.530 --> 01:18:58.170 robertthibodeau: And all both emotion okay That was good 500 and. 649 01:19:00.480 --> 01:19:04.530 robertthibodeau: Daniel and take you off is a pain panel as to you know. 650 01:19:05.610 --> 01:19:08.430 robertthibodeau: Get you after the anatomy that john. 651 01:19:09.810 --> 01:19:13.020 robertthibodeau: And I want to just remove you anyway, I guess it doesn't matter. 652 01:19:16.680 --> 01:19:24.780 robertthibodeau: Okay, so we're going to skip seven because he's not here trap eight we already did nine Elizabeth you want to explain this one. 653 01:19:27.540 --> 01:19:37.680 Elizabeth Clay: yeah i'm just with respect, and I was wondering if we should go there, given what we just heard on our vs because, in order to do as a clean out. 654 01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:41.520 robertthibodeau: We need our wiis moved on sorry it was 10. 655 01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:46.830 robertthibodeau: la your 10 yeah you're you're 10 cleanup on Venice boulevard. 656 01:19:46.920 --> 01:19:47.280 Right. 657 01:19:52.620 --> 01:19:54.210 robertthibodeau: This was your baby so. 658 01:19:54.990 --> 01:19:59.010 Elizabeth Clay: yeah well my baby, that is, I think it's crying. 659 01:20:00.570 --> 01:20:11.970 Elizabeth Clay: Because I don't think we could do a clean up with it's chicken or the egg you can't do a clean up without moving our bodies and you can't move arby's based on the information we just got were a long ways from that so do we. 660 01:20:13.590 --> 01:20:14.370 Elizabeth Clay: We chase it. 661 01:20:15.780 --> 01:20:17.790 Elizabeth Clay: I mean, I can explain it a little bit further it's. 662 01:20:19.200 --> 01:20:25.620 Elizabeth Clay: When when I was over at i'm i'm tasked with centennial park cleanups until they stop them. 663 01:20:26.280 --> 01:20:36.210 Elizabeth Clay: And anyway was talking to lapd about the fact that we had the rv intense and debris piling up, on the other side of the street blocking the bike lane. 664 01:20:36.660 --> 01:20:51.150 Elizabeth Clay: and so on, and they said well nothing we can do about it that's sanitation, so, then I called sanitation, they said nothing we can do about it that's Department of Transportation and you know, like everyone's setting it off to another bureaucracy. 665 01:20:52.290 --> 01:21:02.970 Elizabeth Clay: And they said it's going to require a complete street closure to get a cleaning the first time and then to you know commence the regular cleaning that we used to have. 666 01:21:04.080 --> 01:21:15.150 Elizabeth Clay: So the our views are probably the biggest block right now and I don't know what you find get your temperature on that whether we should push it with emotion. 667 01:21:15.330 --> 01:21:27.390 robertthibodeau: Your your motion, or at least the motion, I wrote down which may have been correctly or incorrectly interpreted with motion to request city to resume street cleaning on Venice boulevard I didn't mention the rv specific. 668 01:21:27.420 --> 01:21:32.670 Elizabeth Clay: yeah I know it's just that one that can't happen without the other, you know it's. 669 01:21:33.090 --> 01:21:36.960 robertthibodeau: I personally see no, no reason not to make the motion. 670 01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:37.830 robertthibodeau: Sure sure. 671 01:21:37.920 --> 01:21:46.500 robertthibodeau: And we can send it to whoever you want to send it if it passes, or we could skip it if you want to skip it you again, this was your baby so. 672 01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:48.240 robertthibodeau: yeah we want to do with it. 673 01:21:49.380 --> 01:21:52.920 Elizabeth Clay: i'd like to throw it back to the board for some discussion then we'll go from there. 674 01:21:55.110 --> 01:22:00.450 Jonathan Deer: I I don't see a reason not to do it just because again like that other motion, I think it. 675 01:22:01.530 --> 01:22:11.400 Jonathan Deer: Just shows support for our desire to have not be utterly abandoned by our city, you know and have them come back and and start taking care of us. 676 01:22:12.690 --> 01:22:21.540 Jonathan Deer: I definitely see that it's very unlikely to happen, but then it's never stopped us before from you know, making our voices heard so i'm for it. 677 01:22:24.450 --> 01:22:25.350 robertthibodeau: i'll send over to. 678 01:22:25.380 --> 01:22:27.390 robertthibodeau: Your high Venice boulevard. 679 01:22:27.990 --> 01:22:30.120 alyson wilson: As in i'm on Venice boulevard. 680 01:22:30.660 --> 01:22:32.520 alyson wilson: You know I align. 681 01:22:32.550 --> 01:22:41.340 alyson wilson: With you Elizabeth on this and would love to see the maintenance resume and whatever we can do to support that even if it's just with this nudge i'm on board. 682 01:22:42.090 --> 01:22:47.880 robertthibodeau: So let's let's make a motion seconded we've got open it public comment, and then we can have a board comment if we need more board. 683 01:22:48.480 --> 01:22:50.430 robertthibodeau: So why don't why don't you make the motion. 684 01:22:50.850 --> 01:22:55.170 Elizabeth Clay: motion to recommend the street cleaning on Venice boulevard. 685 01:22:56.550 --> 01:22:57.210 alyson wilson: Second. 686 01:22:57.420 --> 01:23:04.080 robertthibodeau: allison seconds okay we've got minute flying Mr good and that your hand up hold on one second. 687 01:23:05.820 --> 01:23:08.130 robertthibodeau: A lot of Doc you're on it. 688 01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:17.670 Goat Puppet: Oh boy normalcy oh boy yeah and again, all you have to do is put Michael new house on there. 689 01:23:19.110 --> 01:23:30.840 Goat Puppet: You put those other two Shan heads up there, endorsed by the times you're doing for the rest of your life, yes, I imagine, going to the money ball headed one. 690 01:23:31.320 --> 01:23:46.290 Goat Puppet: And having no arby's on the street straight sweeping every week bike lanes pain, yes, it cannot be ours for free if you'll just mark the correct box on your ballot. 691 01:23:47.970 --> 01:24:02.250 Goat Puppet: Yes, you have a chance, with Larry elder yes, Sir, you blew that we had a chance, with trump that's right you got Biden, because you wanted $7 a gallon gas like I do. 692 01:24:02.790 --> 01:24:13.080 Goat Puppet: What I want you humans out to your cars, but it's not working, I need $10 gas, have you seen the four or five you're driving. 693 01:24:13.560 --> 01:24:30.510 Goat Puppet: Now, every time I increase the price of gas you drive more that I don't know why I need a study for it so yes let's do it bring back Venice save yourselves, please it's your last chance. 694 01:24:31.920 --> 01:24:33.600 robertthibodeau: You know, thank you, sir. 695 01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:34.740 Goat Puppet: I was beautiful it. 696 01:24:35.250 --> 01:24:36.030 Was beautiful. 697 01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:49.680 robertthibodeau: okie doke so that was Mr puppet we have a calling user to you've been very quiet, if you would like to speak on anything you got to raise your hand unless that that might be. 698 01:24:50.850 --> 01:24:52.200 robertthibodeau: Okay i'm. 699 01:24:53.310 --> 01:25:02.010 robertthibodeau: So bored open it up to board calm and a couple you make comments or ready, but if you want anybody wants to say anything raise your hand. 700 01:25:03.510 --> 01:25:04.470 robertthibodeau: or say something. 701 01:25:08.190 --> 01:25:08.730 robertthibodeau: Okay. 702 01:25:08.820 --> 01:25:12.450 robertthibodeau: Cindy none let's put it put it to a vote or was it someone started speaking. 703 01:25:12.840 --> 01:25:18.780 Evan Corrigan: I was just curious today stops street sweeping and everything from what section of Venice boulevard. 704 01:25:22.290 --> 01:25:26.220 robertthibodeau: Either allison or Elizabeth you're more familiar with it than me so you get it. 705 01:25:27.810 --> 01:25:42.240 Elizabeth Clay: I don't live on Venice, but I can see i'm just logically there's everything from at least ocean up to Lincoln there's no way they're cleaning that and it may be further even down towards specific. 706 01:25:44.130 --> 01:25:46.500 Elizabeth Clay: Maybe also knows you're staring at it. 707 01:25:48.930 --> 01:25:59.040 alyson wilson: it's so funny guys it's such chaos on our street right now i'm actually i'm realizing is you're asking this question i've actually lost track i'm going to ask that the hall monitor hold on put myself. 708 01:26:08.130 --> 01:26:11.040 robertthibodeau: she's got a hall monitor that i'm curious about. 709 01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:23.040 alyson wilson: he's saying my yeah he's this, so what i've learned here is they're doing it about every other week yeah so it stopped and then it resumed again it's not the regular they're not. 710 01:26:23.130 --> 01:26:25.530 alyson wilson: they're not around the entire. 711 01:26:26.820 --> 01:26:31.920 Elizabeth Clay: Well, I mean it's rolled into the streets there's no chance you could get close to the curve like it's. 712 01:26:31.950 --> 01:26:35.550 Jonathan Deer: Both perhaps we want to specify the areas where they're not doing it. 713 01:26:36.630 --> 01:26:38.700 Jonathan Deer: Like like the I guess it's between. 714 01:26:39.270 --> 01:26:40.740 robertthibodeau: by the farmers market for sure. 715 01:26:41.580 --> 01:26:44.910 Jonathan Deer: Are they not cleaning by the farm you're talking about on this. 716 01:26:44.970 --> 01:26:48.240 robertthibodeau: Those vehicles to seven moved in in six months or longer. 717 01:26:48.240 --> 01:26:48.480 Jonathan Deer: Right. 718 01:26:49.320 --> 01:26:49.920 robertthibodeau: And then. 719 01:26:50.100 --> 01:26:55.110 robertthibodeau: Then there's the guy with the shack which constructed like his own house afire. 720 01:26:56.520 --> 01:26:56.940 robertthibodeau: North. 721 01:26:58.200 --> 01:27:05.760 robertthibodeau: East of Abbot kinney on on the southbound lane he's got like domiciled built there i'm pretty sure they're not saying. 722 01:27:06.270 --> 01:27:13.350 Jonathan Deer: Maybe we can just change the motion to say to resolve street cleaning on all of Venice between Pacific and Lincoln. 723 01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:14.490 robertthibodeau: I like him. 724 01:27:14.820 --> 01:27:15.720 Jonathan Deer: Something like that. 725 01:27:16.170 --> 01:27:16.890 alyson wilson: that's Nice. 726 01:27:17.100 --> 01:27:17.520 yeah. 727 01:27:19.320 --> 01:27:23.640 robertthibodeau: Okay let's put it in front of a vote, so we can keep moving here. 728 01:27:23.640 --> 01:27:33.120 robertthibodeau: Because you want to try and get in a couple more and we're doing great though we're actually really we were hitting a lot of these today okay so john deere. 729 01:27:34.590 --> 01:27:37.590 robertthibodeau: Do you want to read the motion back john just for clarity. 730 01:27:41.040 --> 01:27:49.500 Jonathan Deer: yeah okay let's its motion to request city tourism street cleaning on all of Venice boulevard between Pacific and Lincoln. 731 01:27:51.180 --> 01:27:54.120 robertthibodeau: window okay voting john deere. 732 01:27:56.130 --> 01:27:56.670 robertthibodeau: hi. 733 01:27:58.860 --> 01:27:59.460 robertthibodeau: allison. 734 01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:01.800 robertthibodeau: Yes, Elizabeth. 735 01:28:02.220 --> 01:28:03.480 robertthibodeau: Yes, Evan. 736 01:28:03.840 --> 01:28:05.730 robertthibodeau: Yes, and i'm a yes. 737 01:28:07.080 --> 01:28:08.070 robertthibodeau: unanimity. 738 01:28:10.500 --> 01:28:13.170 robertthibodeau: Okay, moving that was great. 739 01:28:17.400 --> 01:28:26.790 robertthibodeau: broadway and forth, this was me so on broadway and fifth we had requested a four way. 740 01:28:29.340 --> 01:28:38.190 robertthibodeau: Traffic stop signs, this was about what john maybe about a year to two years ago, I think it was sort of at the end of mirrors is. 741 01:28:39.330 --> 01:28:44.610 robertthibodeau: chairmanship of the PTC we got that one, and I believe that was installed. 742 01:28:45.930 --> 01:28:52.440 robertthibodeau: broadway and forth is still a two way stop and, in my view, is purely dangerous to a stop. 743 01:28:55.110 --> 01:29:05.220 robertthibodeau: Just because all the other stops are four ways, so you kind of assume it's a four way, unless you know and it's very tempting to pull out when you're at the STOP sign and then people are ripping through in the other direction. 744 01:29:06.870 --> 01:29:16.320 robertthibodeau: I don't see any need for this speed, because you have another stop sign coming up fairly soon thereafter anyway, so I don't think it's like a. 745 01:29:17.190 --> 01:29:31.470 robertthibodeau: Killing traffic kind of thing I think it's just a safety issue, so my proposal and possible motion would be to change the intersection at broadway and forth from a two way stop to a four way stop. 746 01:29:32.790 --> 01:29:43.320 robertthibodeau: And that's open it up to public to the public, which you can get Mr puppet again hold on one second there buddy allowed to talk, you are. 747 01:29:47.400 --> 01:29:50.700 Goat Puppet: On again see look at the Nice flow of information. 748 01:29:52.110 --> 01:30:02.400 Goat Puppet: Remember the dark days of Iraq cause law Francisco Oh yes, yes, yes that's right see those days are long gone. 749 01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:03.180 Goat Puppet: On top. 750 01:30:03.750 --> 01:30:04.890 robertthibodeau: On top and the. 751 01:30:04.890 --> 01:30:08.760 Goat Puppet: Only vestiges bike bond, and yes, stopping your motion. 752 01:30:10.260 --> 01:30:11.520 Goat Puppet: Is that, on top of it. 753 01:30:12.210 --> 01:30:12.840 Goat Puppet: you've tried it. 754 01:30:14.580 --> 01:30:15.510 Goat Puppet: that's that's right. 755 01:30:16.980 --> 01:30:34.260 Goat Puppet: We want to continue to move forward, getting our Venice back into order but remember all of its going to be for nothing if you put one of those to La times demons in there yo pay I know the both very well, especially great. 756 01:30:35.460 --> 01:30:39.240 Goat Puppet: there's no good a damn good is that. 757 01:30:40.860 --> 01:30:42.420 Goat Puppet: You were I warned you. 758 01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:46.770 Goat Puppet: Can you tell me about it we'll talk offline. 759 01:30:48.720 --> 01:30:51.720 robertthibodeau: But you know, thank you for the advice. 760 01:30:54.990 --> 01:30:57.180 robertthibodeau: I don't know what i'm doing this, to have it and turn to. 761 01:30:58.620 --> 01:31:08.250 robertthibodeau: Google and you okay there we go sorry second Mr Corrigan you put your hand up if that's intentional or unintentional. 762 01:31:08.610 --> 01:31:19.710 Evan Corrigan: to die i'm just curious I mean I know a lot those a lot and I know there's this to a song times have you guys ever talks about a mouse. 763 01:31:22.530 --> 01:31:25.380 robertthibodeau: That is a tiny intersection i'm. 764 01:31:27.210 --> 01:31:32.340 robertthibodeau: Not I, I think, Brian about Sir would be good for something like millwood and. 765 01:31:33.420 --> 01:31:38.250 robertthibodeau: Where they just put all those ugly traffic like i'm not sure who ripped through the city and. 766 01:31:38.280 --> 01:31:41.910 robertthibodeau: started putting the traffic guns at those things are horrendous things. 767 01:31:43.050 --> 01:31:43.800 robertthibodeau: But a. 768 01:31:44.970 --> 01:31:58.710 robertthibodeau: broadway and broadway and forth is very, very it's it those streets, you have to wait for the person to go in the other direction, you know what I mean like if past two cars and one so not sure you get around about in there, but. 769 01:32:00.510 --> 01:32:00.810 Evan Corrigan: yeah. 770 01:32:01.020 --> 01:32:01.800 Evan Corrigan: What was. 771 01:32:02.880 --> 01:32:03.150 Evan Corrigan: That. 772 01:32:03.210 --> 01:32:05.280 robertthibodeau: By like round about where appropriate them. 773 01:32:07.710 --> 01:32:10.620 alyson wilson: All hop in here it's a really sketchy intersection I think. 774 01:32:10.800 --> 01:32:10.920 robertthibodeau: it's a. 775 01:32:10.950 --> 01:32:16.440 alyson wilson: great idea there's, especially because it's so narrow and there's the cars on both sides actually quite hard to see if you're. 776 01:32:16.440 --> 01:32:16.740 robertthibodeau: On a. 777 01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:18.030 alyson wilson: bicycle or on foot. 778 01:32:18.210 --> 01:32:30.570 alyson wilson: yeah and I think pretty much every time there's a car car car or car bicycle or car pedestrian situation it's like dicey so i'm on board with more traffic control there. 779 01:32:33.900 --> 01:32:38.670 robertthibodeau: Okay, so we have a motion and a second I think and. 780 01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:42.210 robertthibodeau: We put up for a vote now. 781 01:32:44.310 --> 01:32:47.850 robertthibodeau: yeah Jones nodding yes Okay, Mr near. 782 01:32:48.750 --> 01:32:49.230 Yes. 783 01:32:53.280 --> 01:32:54.210 robertthibodeau: Miss Wilson. 784 01:32:54.630 --> 01:32:56.790 robertthibodeau: Yes, it's clay. 785 01:32:57.120 --> 01:32:57.750 Yes. 786 01:32:59.730 --> 01:33:01.350 robertthibodeau: corrigan's Korean. 787 01:33:03.240 --> 01:33:08.010 robertthibodeau: and Robert tiptoe is yes 500 again. 788 01:33:08.520 --> 01:33:11.490 Jonathan Deer: And, and who moved and seconded I didn't get that written down. 789 01:33:14.580 --> 01:33:15.690 robertthibodeau: I think I moved it. 790 01:33:17.790 --> 01:33:20.790 robertthibodeau: And i'm not sure who second I thought, what do you guys do. 791 01:33:22.230 --> 01:33:24.240 alyson wilson: I don't know if we got there but i'll be the second. 792 01:33:26.790 --> 01:33:28.080 alyson wilson: If it wasn't someone else. 793 01:33:28.320 --> 01:33:30.240 jim murez: Excuse me for interrupting Robert. 794 01:33:30.270 --> 01:33:34.440 jim murez: you're not allowed to make motions you're not allowed to second motions, it has to be people on the committee. 795 01:33:36.810 --> 01:33:37.470 robertthibodeau: Okay. 796 01:33:38.100 --> 01:33:39.150 alyson wilson: i'll make the motion. 797 01:33:39.240 --> 01:33:40.230 Jonathan Deer: Jim I. 798 01:33:41.280 --> 01:33:42.390 Jonathan Deer: Am I like a second. 799 01:33:42.540 --> 01:33:46.290 jim murez: it's just it's just the Chair of the meet the person that's holding the gavel. 800 01:33:47.640 --> 01:33:48.810 robertthibodeau: can make the motion. 801 01:33:48.900 --> 01:33:52.500 jim murez: Iraq Roberts holding the gavel he's the one calling for the vote. 802 01:33:52.740 --> 01:33:56.490 jim murez: he's conducting it he's he's the one that cannot make the motion. 803 01:33:56.730 --> 01:33:58.530 jim murez: I apologize, not a problem. 804 01:33:58.680 --> 01:34:00.210 robertthibodeau: yeah that was. 805 01:34:01.530 --> 01:34:07.230 robertthibodeau: uh yeah Okay, so do we have a replacement motion maker in a. 806 01:34:08.820 --> 01:34:09.390 robertthibodeau: Second. 807 01:34:09.660 --> 01:34:13.590 Jonathan Deer: yeah we got it we're out of you allison moved I second. 808 01:34:14.010 --> 01:34:14.400 Okay. 809 01:34:15.510 --> 01:34:18.690 robertthibodeau: Thanks and apologies i'm protocol um. 810 01:34:20.580 --> 01:34:27.390 robertthibodeau: Okay, so we have moving down there we've got two more we're doing all right, we have Venice signage. 811 01:34:29.130 --> 01:34:33.030 robertthibodeau: This is was more of a concept thing was actually mentioned. 812 01:34:36.420 --> 01:34:45.150 robertthibodeau: Also, and we could potentially talk to the what is the cultural new cultural committee or whatever they're called know cultural the landmarks one. 813 01:34:46.410 --> 01:34:53.040 robertthibodeau: I think this came up with them, and this is something that I think we had bandied about before is suggesting. 814 01:34:53.940 --> 01:35:13.320 robertthibodeau: Like most cities, when you enter like malibu or Santa Monica or even you know parts of La that are much smaller than us have signs a turn key marketing places like I would suggest you know coming North on Lincoln from the Marina area South from Santa Monica and maybe. 815 01:35:14.400 --> 01:35:15.750 robertthibodeau: Driving West on. 816 01:35:16.830 --> 01:35:22.170 robertthibodeau: Venice, as you leave mar vista having a sign that says entering Venice. 817 01:35:22.350 --> 01:35:23.700 alyson wilson: You know, since that. 818 01:35:25.230 --> 01:35:25.860 robertthibodeau: and 819 01:35:27.480 --> 01:35:38.940 robertthibodeau: You know just a thought and I guess that's my spiel on that we can make a motion we could we could push this forward to a future date as well, I don't think it's time sensitive at all. 820 01:35:40.410 --> 01:35:42.660 robertthibodeau: But that that was that. 821 01:35:47.730 --> 01:35:48.210 robertthibodeau: We want. 822 01:35:49.470 --> 01:35:52.710 robertthibodeau: To puppet throw out is sign idea here. 823 01:35:54.330 --> 01:35:56.280 robertthibodeau: yeah hell yeah we do. 824 01:35:58.200 --> 01:35:58.950 robertthibodeau: Your up bud. 825 01:36:00.750 --> 01:36:03.780 Goat Puppet: yeah you have to warn people. 826 01:36:05.670 --> 01:36:06.630 robertthibodeau: Exactly. 827 01:36:08.190 --> 01:36:09.390 Goat Puppet: Yes, i'm sorry. 828 01:36:09.390 --> 01:36:14.820 Goat Puppet: Yes, warning homos President kampmann see your. 829 01:36:16.320 --> 01:36:26.280 Goat Puppet: Agenda good you would do to all of us, yes, and people would stop going there until the cleanup then all of the lobbyists. 830 01:36:26.820 --> 01:36:40.920 Goat Puppet: And all of the criminals and felons at city all would be going clean up don't be annoyed Emma said there's nobody coming in what a perfect idea what a sneaky concept, yes. 831 01:36:41.460 --> 01:36:55.740 Goat Puppet: we'll put up signs but we'll put up truthful find walkway yes so let's do it warning homeless criminal and kampmann do not enter Venice California yeah. 832 01:36:56.760 --> 01:37:05.730 Goat Puppet: And that's how you have to do it people and, by the way, you are endorsing being aware of up for reelection he did clean your boardwalk on. 833 01:37:06.870 --> 01:37:13.560 Goat Puppet: Their back yes they're back because Alex doesn't know if he has yourself or. 834 01:37:16.890 --> 01:37:21.060 robertthibodeau: No, thank you for the insights. 835 01:37:24.870 --> 01:37:27.870 robertthibodeau: Go okay board comment on this. 836 01:37:28.860 --> 01:37:34.290 alyson wilson: Robert are you thinking like a municipal sign or a. 837 01:37:35.400 --> 01:37:41.460 alyson wilson: don't know like a more artistic, do you think is, are we saying, like a green sign or. 838 01:37:41.730 --> 01:37:42.000 alyson wilson: Something. 839 01:37:42.150 --> 01:37:44.520 robertthibodeau: Like that we are a fairly fairly minute me. 840 01:37:44.970 --> 01:37:59.310 robertthibodeau: Sorry, municipal sign, although I have seen them in different stylings, for instance, when you go down to towns like Westminster in North orange county you see a much different font which carries a much different sort of message in some ways. 841 01:37:59.940 --> 01:38:08.610 robertthibodeau: than the sort of us one sign that you see when you go into malveaux and then some seem to have the population on them or the elevation. 842 01:38:09.060 --> 01:38:23.310 robertthibodeau: Or you can just have nothing and just having you know entering or just frankly the name, maybe just keep it simple I don't don't have a specific design I just like the idea because I like marketing my borders, I don't know why. 843 01:38:24.750 --> 01:38:25.470 robertthibodeau: You know what I mean. 844 01:38:25.890 --> 01:38:27.240 robertthibodeau: I love it i'm on board. 845 01:38:27.600 --> 01:38:40.170 alyson wilson: i'm on board, I think people can get also very confused in our area they don't know if they're in Venice they don't know where Abbot kinney is they don't know which direction the beaches sort of hard to see through buildings, I like this concept. 846 01:38:41.130 --> 01:38:48.660 robertthibodeau: It also seems like you know the city in general la sort of chipped away at Venice, despite you know, despite sort of. 847 01:38:49.710 --> 01:38:58.740 robertthibodeau: US remaining strong as an identity it sort of seems like you know arts Venice used to be much larger, if you look at the old maps like, if you look at. 848 01:38:59.880 --> 01:39:05.190 robertthibodeau: Now i'm trying to remember his name used to be on the dnc The historian guy were like kilt. 849 01:39:07.950 --> 01:39:13.410 robertthibodeau: lived on electric no longer with us, but he wrote a quite a good. 850 01:39:14.820 --> 01:39:24.360 robertthibodeau: History piece on Venice if you can find it and you walk into a bar, which is, I have it, and it shows he didn't research with the old maps, you can see a big it used to be. 851 01:39:24.870 --> 01:39:40.380 robertthibodeau: And then I now like you know Venice extended far past the high school and all of these places, and now it's sort of been pared down pared down pared down over time, even the Marina right now it's Marina del rey that all used to be Venice, you know all the way down to Z street and. 852 01:39:43.050 --> 01:39:51.510 robertthibodeau: anyways I like the idea of marketing boards, but let's push this one is our last one to two right you already did the permit parking one. 853 01:39:52.170 --> 01:40:01.890 robertthibodeau: let's push this to a meeting meeting in the future, not make them motion on this, maybe come back with like a design or something the point of view Evans pretty artistic maybe some does get some. 854 01:40:02.430 --> 01:40:03.030 robertthibodeau: sunlight. 855 01:40:03.630 --> 01:40:09.570 robertthibodeau: You know cool little thing they can do, and we can identify specific locations and be a little bit more specific about this. 856 01:40:12.240 --> 01:40:12.840 alyson wilson: not bad. 857 01:40:13.440 --> 01:40:16.350 robertthibodeau: Okay, in that case i'm going to. 858 01:40:19.200 --> 01:40:29.400 robertthibodeau: Do we have comments on items, not on the agenda for consideration is that is that the border is that the general we already did general public one right. 859 01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:30.570 Jonathan Deer: yeah that's us. 860 01:40:31.980 --> 01:40:37.560 robertthibodeau: anybody else want to bring anything to the attention of the rest of the board Community. 861 01:40:38.370 --> 01:40:47.100 Jonathan Deer: I couple of things i'm just thinking about I don't know if we want to take any action or even think about that much but. 862 01:40:48.810 --> 01:40:56.070 Jonathan Deer: It you know, is there a way to tighten up on off topic comments and also, is there a way to. 863 01:40:57.390 --> 01:41:02.790 Jonathan Deer: Make sure people are identified by who they actually are so we know who's talking to us. 864 01:41:04.800 --> 01:41:06.900 robertthibodeau: i'm not sure. 865 01:41:09.210 --> 01:41:17.070 robertthibodeau: Because we get so little public comment in our particular committee alright see Jim regions and you want to feel this one, Mr ramirez. 866 01:41:17.730 --> 01:41:20.430 jim murez: So, to answer your question. 867 01:41:21.840 --> 01:41:31.020 jim murez: Public comment can be anything as long as it's related to the topic of the committee, so if you have public comment on the agenda. 868 01:41:31.500 --> 01:41:46.800 jim murez: they're supposed to be making public comment for items, not on the agenda but related to the committee's purview so in your case would be parking and transportation related issues, as far as identifying who they are there's no requirement for that. 869 01:41:48.030 --> 01:41:51.900 jim murez: matter of fact, it clearly states that they are not required to do that. 870 01:41:52.290 --> 01:41:55.920 jim murez: Okay, I would like to I reason I raised my hand, I would like to. 871 01:41:56.100 --> 01:42:09.810 jim murez: make you aware of something that i've been getting questioned about at the farmers market on Fridays, there are people who live between ocean avenue and the Eastern Canal. 872 01:42:10.980 --> 01:42:19.380 jim murez: Between Venice boulevard and whatever the street is to directly to the south of the canal I forget the name of it now. 873 01:42:20.580 --> 01:42:37.680 jim murez: There are some very short blocks right there the dead end into the canals so when you're driving down ocean avenue, and you turn westbound going towards the eastern canals it's a very short block those blocks are all marked with to our nose street cleaning signs. 874 01:42:39.030 --> 01:42:48.450 jim murez: For each week and, like allison made the point that streamlines only happening every two weeks now, but the street seat signs are still there. 875 01:42:48.900 --> 01:42:52.440 jim murez: And people that don't know or even people that live in the neighborhood. 876 01:42:52.890 --> 01:42:56.340 jim murez: They park their car there and they realized that they have to move because it's street cleaning. 877 01:42:56.670 --> 01:43:04.200 jim murez: But the streets are too narrow for the street sweepers to go down and turn around and come back out and they won't back those machines up. 878 01:43:04.740 --> 01:43:12.600 jim murez: So they don't ever clean them and ever since they put up those street signs some number of years ago, those people have to move their card every week. 879 01:43:12.990 --> 01:43:16.530 jim murez: To have street cleaning come through but street cleaning never comes through. 880 01:43:17.010 --> 01:43:25.170 jim murez: So the streets are all vacated and people that leave their car there get ticketed so they've asked if there's something that parking and transportation can do, perhaps at a future meeting. 881 01:43:25.710 --> 01:43:29.820 jim murez: To find out whether or not the streets can either be cleaned or the science can be removed. 882 01:43:30.300 --> 01:43:36.870 jim murez: But what I mentioned that if the signs were removed, that that would raise all sorts of other issues like people leaving their cars there, and definitely. 883 01:43:37.470 --> 01:43:46.800 jim murez: Then they said well we'll have to think about how do we can deal with that, so I throw that out there to you to think about is there a way that they can have their cake and eat it too. 884 01:43:48.210 --> 01:43:56.280 robertthibodeau: And that was brought to us by the public, and I did reach back to I forget the person's name. 885 01:43:58.380 --> 01:44:09.450 robertthibodeau: And I will put it on if they want to be on i'll put them on on July for sure I just couldn't get them on because we had already posted the agenda it didn't come to me until the weekend. 886 01:44:09.690 --> 01:44:09.930 jim murez: yeah. 887 01:44:10.440 --> 01:44:11.430 jim murez: It was a problem. 888 01:44:11.460 --> 01:44:12.270 robertthibodeau: that the lack of. 889 01:44:12.420 --> 01:44:15.840 robertthibodeau: Lack of wanting to put them on it was just a time. 890 01:44:16.830 --> 01:44:28.110 jim murez: it's an interesting kind of catchy catchy you know kick kick it, what do you do if you take away the signs, then people will park there, and definitely if you leave up the science, then people don't get to. 891 01:44:30.870 --> 01:44:33.300 jim murez: Use the space when there's no street plane so. 892 01:44:33.750 --> 01:44:44.880 robertthibodeau: Right right, so the problem, yes, so we can think about that, and they can think about that what a better alternative might be and will allow them to present. 893 01:44:45.900 --> 01:44:56.340 robertthibodeau: To lie, which again I think it's going to be the second Monday of July before, but some of the check the calendar on that one but um any other. 894 01:44:57.750 --> 01:44:58.200 robertthibodeau: Evan. 895 01:45:00.750 --> 01:45:02.310 Evan Corrigan: fishbein ministry super. 896 01:45:03.420 --> 01:45:05.010 robertthibodeau: Many street sweepers are cool. 897 01:45:06.660 --> 01:45:12.240 robertthibodeau: yeah they I think they already have one don't there isn't don't they use the mini for the for the bike lane at the boardwalk. 898 01:45:13.980 --> 01:45:16.290 robertthibodeau: And they drive a mini around there I swear i've seen a mini or. 899 01:45:18.240 --> 01:45:20.580 alyson wilson: That sounds about right good, clear the sand. 900 01:45:20.670 --> 01:45:21.510 robertthibodeau: Where the sand. 901 01:45:21.570 --> 01:45:21.930 alyson wilson: yeah. 902 01:45:22.080 --> 01:45:23.490 robertthibodeau: i've seen one of those small wins. 903 01:45:24.510 --> 01:45:26.640 robertthibodeau: yeah well, we can talk to them, I mean. 904 01:45:27.330 --> 01:45:27.750 jim murez: You know. 905 01:45:27.990 --> 01:45:29.880 robertthibodeau: certificate of appreciation, you know. 906 01:45:30.840 --> 01:45:43.110 jim murez: it's part it's part of a bigger interesting concept that the people who live on walk streets actually pay for streets weeping because they're on a street, but they live on a walk street and they don't sweep those either. 907 01:45:45.510 --> 01:45:46.710 jim murez: Who knows you know it's. 908 01:45:48.180 --> 01:45:49.830 jim murez: Bigger bigger things to think about. 909 01:45:50.100 --> 01:45:52.830 robertthibodeau: yeah we all pay for things we don't get. 910 01:45:53.040 --> 01:45:53.400 yeah. 911 01:45:55.980 --> 01:46:10.980 robertthibodeau: Okay i'm going to close this meeting, but I see your hand up but we didn't have any other public comments, so thank you for your input tonight and you actually I feel you were fairly on top of my friend and. 912 01:46:13.620 --> 01:46:14.130 robertthibodeau: let's. 913 01:46:15.180 --> 01:46:19.350 robertthibodeau: All have a good night and we'll talk in July, if not before then. 914 01:46:20.940 --> 01:46:22.230 alyson wilson: Thank you everyone good night. 915 01:46:23.040 --> 01:46:23.490 Thanks.