WEBVTT 1 00:00:24.870 --> 00:00:26.070 jim murez: Testing one two. 2 00:00:30.810 --> 00:00:33.180 jim murez: Lisa made it back so I know i'm doing something right. 3 00:00:34.770 --> 00:00:35.580 jim murez: there's our host. 4 00:00:48.180 --> 00:00:48.810 Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you, Jeremy. 5 00:00:51.210 --> 00:00:53.760 Andrea Boccaletti: And now I know I call you James because you're name pops up. 6 00:00:55.290 --> 00:00:58.980 jim murez: I can't hear you and i'm not sure that must be on my end hold on a second. 7 00:01:01.830 --> 00:01:02.550 jim murez: Now, can I hear you. 8 00:01:03.330 --> 00:01:03.810 Andrea Boccaletti: Can you hear me. 9 00:01:04.050 --> 00:01:05.160 jim murez: yeah now I can't Thank you. 10 00:01:07.650 --> 00:01:08.670 jim murez: there's Helen. 11 00:01:28.800 --> 00:01:33.750 jim murez: Just a little bit, I think the first item was going to be the most difficult anyway because everybody needed to understand. 12 00:01:34.800 --> 00:01:38.460 jim murez: The rules by engagement, the rules of engagement. 13 00:01:38.880 --> 00:01:42.090 jim murez: yeah hopefully the rest of them will go faster we're going to. 14 00:01:43.650 --> 00:01:47.550 jim murez: So the the issue about reconsidering is something that that. 15 00:01:48.870 --> 00:01:56.340 jim murez: You know the board's done before you haven't but it's it's allowed to be done if somebody on the side that wins decides, they want to reconsider something. 16 00:01:57.150 --> 00:02:08.700 jim murez: Then, that can occur, up to and through the next following meeting, so it could happen at the end of this meeting, or it could happen in the next meeting, but. 17 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:11.610 jim murez: Sema is here, I will. 18 00:02:12.090 --> 00:02:12.690 Andrea Boccaletti: promote. 19 00:02:13.590 --> 00:02:15.960 Andrea Boccaletti: You mean only for funding for next year's budget, though. 20 00:02:16.500 --> 00:02:27.030 jim murez: You know the it has nothing to do with funding what i'm saying is is that if there is a vote in anybody that voted on the side that was the winning side. 21 00:02:27.600 --> 00:02:28.860 jim murez: i've been you have to accept. 22 00:02:30.660 --> 00:02:41.670 jim murez: That person any of the people that are on the winning side of the vote are allowed to ask for the item itself to be reconsidered and that then at that point. 23 00:02:42.180 --> 00:02:51.210 jim murez: The entire committee has to vote whether or not to reconsider it and it takes I believe 50% Ivan will be able to clear that up as soon as he decides to. 24 00:02:52.050 --> 00:03:00.300 jim murez: accept being promoted to a panelist but he hasn't done that yet, and as soon as he does, though, then we can ask him, but I believe it's it's a simple majority. 25 00:03:00.660 --> 00:03:04.200 Andrea Boccaletti: I don't think it's going to happen because we just lost one of the people, I was in favor of. 26 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:11.790 jim murez: yeah, but it did it to reconsider only takes in a in a group of six people it only takes three. 27 00:03:17.790 --> 00:03:22.950 jim murez: i've been I can't promote you unless you agree to be promoted and I have tried four times already. 28 00:03:25.440 --> 00:03:29.220 jim murez: I see your hand is up now you're promoted there we go. 29 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:34.590 jim murez: So, you now have a quorum and I think everybody's back. 30 00:03:35.340 --> 00:03:36.900 jim murez: Okay, except for death, no. 31 00:03:37.110 --> 00:03:37.410 man. 32 00:03:40.440 --> 00:03:42.870 Andrea Boccaletti: Is 11 and i'm calling the meeting to order. 33 00:03:44.070 --> 00:03:44.730 Andrea Boccaletti: chimeras. 34 00:03:45.210 --> 00:03:47.220 Andrea Boccaletti: Here I haven't Spiegel. 35 00:03:47.760 --> 00:03:48.120 yeah. 36 00:03:49.410 --> 00:03:50.490 Andrea Boccaletti: Definitely Kaminski. 37 00:03:51.570 --> 00:03:52.260 Andrea Boccaletti: Sema. 38 00:03:56.160 --> 00:03:56.790 Andrea Boccaletti: simmer. 39 00:03:57.990 --> 00:04:00.360 Sima Kostovetsky: She needs to um yeah yes, yes, yes. 40 00:04:00.480 --> 00:04:00.840 Okay. 41 00:04:03.390 --> 00:04:05.280 Andrea Boccaletti: And i'm here how and fallen. 42 00:04:09.810 --> 00:04:10.740 jim murez: She needs to unmute. 43 00:04:13.980 --> 00:04:14.130 Andrea Boccaletti: Helen. 44 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:20.070 Andrea Boccaletti: Good. 45 00:04:22.860 --> 00:04:23.040 Andrea Boccaletti: So. 46 00:04:23.340 --> 00:04:32.580 jim murez: Let me just let me just mention, I do not have this agenda this agenda was never forwarded to me so you're gonna have to share your screen and and. 47 00:04:35.250 --> 00:04:36.840 jim murez: Do whatever minutes, need to be done. 48 00:04:37.500 --> 00:04:39.780 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay i'm just gonna have to share from the. 49 00:04:42.300 --> 00:04:43.380 Andrea Boccaletti: Budget and finance. 50 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:45.570 jim murez: I can, I can do that if you would like. 51 00:04:46.980 --> 00:04:49.020 jim murez: If you find that helpful i'm happy to do that. 52 00:04:49.260 --> 00:04:50.370 Andrea Boccaletti: Sure we're gonna Thank you. 53 00:04:50.640 --> 00:04:51.000 Okay. 54 00:05:05.280 --> 00:05:05.880 Andrea Boccaletti: Give me one. 55 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:06.720 Second. 56 00:05:16.290 --> 00:05:16.890 jim murez: There you go. 57 00:05:17.790 --> 00:05:18.420 Andrea Boccaletti: Thank you. 58 00:05:25.980 --> 00:05:26.340 Andrea Boccaletti: So. 59 00:05:33.330 --> 00:05:35.670 Andrea Boccaletti: We have to approve this agenda is presented or amended. 60 00:05:36.420 --> 00:05:38.760 Andrea Boccaletti: No, no, we don't have to anymore. 61 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:44.430 Andrea Boccaletti: Can we just move to the motions or I mean at this point just. 62 00:05:45.450 --> 00:05:47.520 Ivan: have to do, general public comment. 63 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:48.390 Okay. 64 00:05:53.370 --> 00:05:54.930 Ivan: With not only good Ganda. 65 00:05:55.230 --> 00:05:57.810 Ivan: Okay right before we get there. 66 00:05:59.640 --> 00:06:04.530 Ivan: There was one other npg that we recessed on. 67 00:06:08.400 --> 00:06:11.100 Ivan: Can we get that included into this agenda. 68 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:14.010 Ivan: Around could just going to go away. 69 00:06:14.730 --> 00:06:17.250 jim murez: Now we're going to come back to it when this one's over. 70 00:06:17.520 --> 00:06:20.880 jim murez: yeah that one was suspended and when this is over we go back to it. 71 00:06:21.210 --> 00:06:22.050 Ivan: What are you talking about. 72 00:06:22.410 --> 00:06:23.130 jim murez: just go away. 73 00:06:23.820 --> 00:06:29.190 Andrea Boccaletti: I can raise your hand, please, if you have public comment items, not on the agenda. 74 00:06:30.420 --> 00:06:34.140 jim murez: There are two hands raised okay Lisa redmond and Robin. 75 00:06:35.520 --> 00:06:38.040 jim murez: Let me help you with this Lisa go ahead. 76 00:06:40.290 --> 00:06:49.950 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: yeah um I have to go to work and so i'm going to talk about my mpg that was on the last meeting that the meeting got suspended on. 77 00:06:50.370 --> 00:07:03.480 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: So it's not on this agenda comment, so I can speak about it um I wanted to talk about la neighbors for neighbors, it is a small grassroots volunteer led organization that's very scrappy. 78 00:07:03.840 --> 00:07:08.010 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: We began last August doing a resource Center that. 79 00:07:08.790 --> 00:07:19.050 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: allows homeless people to access showers clothing medical services ids groceries and other needed services. 80 00:07:19.350 --> 00:07:28.560 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: We started in August, with 40 people we've now grown to over 100 people and part of what makes us unique is we have volunteers that drive around. 81 00:07:28.890 --> 00:07:35.130 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: pick up people at encampments bring you to our monthly resource Center which is held on the third Saturday of every month. 82 00:07:35.730 --> 00:07:44.370 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And then take them back to their encampments now, as I mentioned we're serving over 100 people we've grown that the dmv is coming out. 83 00:07:45.210 --> 00:07:53.730 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: DPS s department of mental health St Joseph caseworkers Lhasa caseworkers what we're doing is we're filling a need. 84 00:07:54.090 --> 00:08:06.330 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: That the county and the city are failing at we're accessing and getting people document ready, so that they can get into housing and we've seen many people House because of our resources and doing the work. 85 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:10.110 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: of why, while we do serve West la. 86 00:08:11.220 --> 00:08:14.400 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And our resource Center is held at St beads church. 87 00:08:15.420 --> 00:08:19.320 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: In mar vista right on grandview just north of Venice boulevard. 88 00:08:20.370 --> 00:08:21.030 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: We. 89 00:08:22.050 --> 00:08:26.790 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Probably close to two thirds of our attendees are from rez from Venice. 90 00:08:27.810 --> 00:08:34.260 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And what we're asking for in our 20 $700 is going to allow us to expand our services even further. 91 00:08:35.970 --> 00:08:45.780 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Because it's getting warmer and it's held at St beads parking lot we're outdoors, so we need more tables, we need more canopies one of the things that we have. 92 00:08:46.260 --> 00:08:57.120 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Is trash cans, but it's all getting mixed in with you know recyclable bottles water bottles and cans and things like that, so this is not only going to help. 93 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:16.590 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: The Community but it's going to help the environment we're asking for trash cans we're asking for to chromebooks that allow people to access even further services signing up for medical accessing family that can help with reunification and getting people home. 94 00:09:17.880 --> 00:09:28.200 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: As I said, we're asking for canopies we're asking for more tables some coolers because you know it's getting warmer, we need to keep drinks cold. 95 00:09:29.940 --> 00:09:39.540 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Storage bins is our equipment is growing and a portable speaker, because now we have we're going to even get working on funding for an additional shower truck. 96 00:09:39.930 --> 00:09:47.640 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: So we need to be able to access to the crowd and call out names when people when it's time for their showers for people that are getting haircuts. 97 00:09:47.640 --> 00:09:49.860 Andrea Boccaletti: Great did you do I put up in the next 15. 98 00:09:49.920 --> 00:10:01.860 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: seconds, yes I can't, and so I did talk with Helen and she did point out, we are funded by a fiscal sponsor that is based in northern California it's the open collective fun. 99 00:10:02.310 --> 00:10:12.480 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: And I did fill out the form incorrectly where it signed later for executive director and Secretary, I am the secretary of our little local la infra and neighbors. 100 00:10:12.810 --> 00:10:28.050 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: What I can do is I on Monday by close of business on Monday, we can have the actual fiscal sponsor open collective sign as the executive director and Secretary and that I can present that to and get it to you. 101 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:35.340 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: That on Monday on Tuesday evenings board meeting you can show to the public the updated document that has the proper signature. 102 00:10:35.460 --> 00:10:46.170 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Other ones, I feel that everything else is correct, and thank you and I do hope that you support this very important need to help people get you know housing on off the streets in Venice. 103 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:47.280 Andrea Boccaletti: Good Thank you Lisa. 104 00:10:47.730 --> 00:10:48.270 Lisa Redmond - Venice Catholic Worker: Thank you. 105 00:10:54.660 --> 00:10:55.140 Andrea Boccaletti: Robin. 106 00:10:58.500 --> 00:10:59.880 Andrea Boccaletti: Can you allow them to speak. 107 00:11:00.300 --> 00:11:01.560 Ivan: What are we doing. 108 00:11:01.950 --> 00:11:03.750 Andrea Boccaletti: This is public comment on items, not on the. 109 00:11:03.750 --> 00:11:04.590 Andrea Boccaletti: Agenda okay. 110 00:11:05.220 --> 00:11:08.940 jim murez: Are we going to be able to ask Lisa questions and she sort of talked about her item. 111 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:10.470 Andrea Boccaletti: All of this. 112 00:11:10.620 --> 00:11:12.420 jim murez: I don't know exactly how they work but. 113 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:14.580 Andrea Boccaletti: Their public comment we're not going to be able to ask because she's. 114 00:11:15.210 --> 00:11:15.810 Andrea Boccaletti: kind of really. 115 00:11:19.110 --> 00:11:20.340 Robin: High, so this is Robin. 116 00:11:22.110 --> 00:11:31.620 Robin: I just want to mention that all of these and every year there are wonderful projects and submitted whether to this or beautification grants and. 117 00:11:32.580 --> 00:11:45.840 Robin: And i've gone through the process numerous times I was rejected the first time I went through because I didn't have estimates for costs that were on a budget or that you know I didn't give enough. 118 00:11:46.620 --> 00:12:01.020 Robin: detail that is required for it to go through the city, you know everything is a great idea I love the local schools, I love you know the the ideas that are brought forth, but there are criteria and I did email all of you. 119 00:12:02.160 --> 00:12:06.660 Robin: The from the cities of the city clerk's filed what the criteria is. 120 00:12:07.050 --> 00:12:07.740 Robin: Robbing things. 121 00:12:07.770 --> 00:12:09.180 Andrea Boccaletti: For items, not on the agenda. 122 00:12:09.540 --> 00:12:11.700 Robin: Well it's not specifically regarding an item. 123 00:12:11.700 --> 00:12:25.380 Robin: it's regarding the process well it's regarding the process, because I think you're, making it a whole lot more difficult for yourselves it's not about what's a good idea it's about what the content of the actual proposal is so. 124 00:12:25.860 --> 00:12:27.090 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, thank you. 125 00:12:32.010 --> 00:12:32.340 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay. 126 00:12:32.940 --> 00:12:36.510 jim murez: Public comment its place Lisa hand is still up I don't know if she. 127 00:12:36.510 --> 00:12:38.010 Andrea Boccaletti: I think she forgot to put it down. 128 00:12:38.610 --> 00:12:42.480 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, and we gave her you know five minutes to speak so okay. 129 00:12:43.890 --> 00:12:44.310 jim murez: So you're. 130 00:12:44.940 --> 00:12:46.230 jim murez: going to close public comment, are you. 131 00:12:46.260 --> 00:12:48.240 Andrea Boccaletti: yeah just close public comment good. 132 00:12:49.830 --> 00:12:50.970 Andrea Boccaletti: Any old business. 133 00:12:52.830 --> 00:12:56.070 Andrea Boccaletti: I know we have the prior meaning to get back to. 134 00:12:57.840 --> 00:12:58.770 Andrea Boccaletti: New business. 135 00:13:01.620 --> 00:13:03.720 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, so let's move to the agenda. 136 00:13:14.010 --> 00:13:18.870 Andrea Boccaletti: The motion is a Community improvement project. 137 00:13:19.890 --> 00:13:27.000 Andrea Boccaletti: submitted for the casting of colonnade capitals on Woodward avenue for a $5,000 request. 138 00:13:27.420 --> 00:13:28.980 jim murez: And I see two of them listed. 139 00:13:29.550 --> 00:13:35.790 Andrea Boccaletti: Right, one is for casting we're we're dealing with casting right now, and the other one is fabrication. 140 00:13:35.970 --> 00:13:38.040 jim murez: Oh very smart okay got it. 141 00:13:38.820 --> 00:13:45.150 Andrea Boccaletti: So the request is several of the original iconic historic a tie, and columns that Abbot kinney created for Windward avenue. 142 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:59.460 Andrea Boccaletti: Market street and ocean front walk are completely missing in need of proper capitals or repairs to start the refurbishment project, we will have to sample fiberglass capitals cast from the mode, which we will have had fabricated. 143 00:14:00.630 --> 00:14:03.090 Andrea Boccaletti: See fabrication of capital molds tip. 144 00:14:04.290 --> 00:14:10.860 Andrea Boccaletti: The two samples will enable demonstration of attaching capitals in different situations, as are required by the existing site. 145 00:14:11.490 --> 00:14:22.140 Andrea Boccaletti: on existing columns and we're columns do not now exist these samples are proof of concept to demonstrate to the Community and secure their support to enable as many of. 146 00:14:22.740 --> 00:14:32.430 Andrea Boccaletti: As many of the 40 missing columns as possible, to be replaced several adjacent property owners have expressed their interest in replacing the colonnade. 147 00:14:33.090 --> 00:14:45.090 Andrea Boccaletti: They have asked for samples to demonstrate how this can be accomplished Los Angeles historical historical, cultural monument number 532 designated in 1991 Dennis arcades columns and capitals. 148 00:14:46.530 --> 00:14:48.630 jim murez: Okay well i'll make the motion. 149 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:49.680 Okay. 150 00:14:51.390 --> 00:14:52.110 jim murez: that's Jim. 151 00:14:52.560 --> 00:14:53.910 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, we got here. 152 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:55.890 Helen okay. 153 00:14:58.800 --> 00:15:02.430 Andrea Boccaletti: Is there a public comment on the agenda item. 154 00:15:02.940 --> 00:15:04.350 hang on one second. 155 00:15:06.150 --> 00:15:06.660 Ivan: monitor. 156 00:15:06.750 --> 00:15:13.350 Ivan: And re if the if the people were here that Cantonese proposals can you let them speak. 157 00:15:14.070 --> 00:15:15.150 Ivan: We all know. 158 00:15:15.690 --> 00:15:16.860 Andrea Boccaletti: That says raise their hand so. 159 00:15:16.860 --> 00:15:23.520 Andrea Boccaletti: Far so okay i'm sorry, yes, Robin yes Robin okay. 160 00:15:24.060 --> 00:15:29.520 jim murez: And do we have the application here for that, or is this the applicant, we are, is there a formal application I don't I don't know. 161 00:15:29.580 --> 00:15:33.600 Andrea Boccaletti: I never saw any formal application so that we can ask Robin that right now, when. 162 00:15:34.140 --> 00:15:36.090 jim murez: But what is there a requirement for one. 163 00:15:37.770 --> 00:15:47.880 Robin: There is a requirement because it's a CFP it doesn't have to be on it a form of form, we did it exactly the way it's required by city. 164 00:15:49.470 --> 00:15:52.860 Robin: For CIPS and, yes, you have it, as. 165 00:15:53.010 --> 00:15:54.480 Andrea Boccaletti: Well yeah. 166 00:15:55.170 --> 00:15:56.700 Robin: Okay, so what. 167 00:15:56.760 --> 00:15:58.050 Andrea Boccaletti: What you said I uploaded. 168 00:15:59.640 --> 00:16:00.720 Andrea Boccaletti: uploading documents. 169 00:16:01.080 --> 00:16:02.190 jim murez: Let me share that. 170 00:16:02.370 --> 00:16:06.990 Andrea Boccaletti: Well, that up yeah make sure you have the one for the casting right. 171 00:16:11.490 --> 00:16:12.180 jim murez: Essentially. 172 00:16:12.750 --> 00:16:13.710 Andrea Boccaletti: yeah good. 173 00:16:19.620 --> 00:16:29.850 Robin: So I think all i'll say is, I think it is both a great project for the Community for the next hundred years to restore our iconic. 174 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:39.060 Robin: Historic colonnade benefits both those of us who live here and love Venice and those who visit and we have given you. 175 00:16:39.420 --> 00:17:00.630 Robin: A very complete description of how this would be undertaken, we have it, the number one set shop of La that has agreed to do it, for an excellent price and within the time frame necessary, so I think we've got it all our i's cross dollar t's we've given you their invoice also. 176 00:17:02.340 --> 00:17:03.210 Robin: and 177 00:17:04.380 --> 00:17:15.210 Robin: This is dependent on having the mold made so we submitted this in two parts, because the city will allow $5,000. 178 00:17:16.410 --> 00:17:27.600 Robin: funds to be made by neighborhood Councils, without requiring an additional special contract with the city and it actually helped also in getting these prices as low as they are. 179 00:17:28.320 --> 00:17:39.750 Robin: When we told them, we had a $5,000 Max they agreed to come in on that this would ordinarily be costing a lot more so that's All I will say, if you have questions i'm happy to entertain them. 180 00:17:40.770 --> 00:17:41.640 Robin: Okay, thank you. 181 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:43.080 Andrea Boccaletti: um. 182 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:49.680 Andrea Boccaletti: I just have a question I mean I is this public property or private property. 183 00:17:53.430 --> 00:18:02.760 Robin: Though i'm happy to let also others or gym address this, my understanding is, these are on like the parkway, and so they are public, but they also are. 184 00:18:02.970 --> 00:18:10.530 Robin: attached to private buildings, I don't think it's completely clear, they are historic landmarks and you know for. 185 00:18:11.070 --> 00:18:28.410 Robin: Whatever over the past 30 years everybody's talked about trying to get these paired and replaced and we need to take initiative, these are our icons so it's completely within the scope of the neighborhood Council to be funding this and. 186 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:30.720 Robin: i'll leave it to you from there. 187 00:18:31.080 --> 00:18:34.680 Andrea Boccaletti: We are all the capitals identical and there'll be restored to the original. 188 00:18:36.150 --> 00:18:36.720 Andrea Boccaletti: Look. 189 00:18:37.290 --> 00:18:43.110 Robin: that's what we that's what we propose right now there are some that don't match and so yeah we want to get them all made. 190 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:57.150 Robin: To exactly what they originally were although we'd be casting them in fiberglass which is you know, a contemporary material much lighter weight and more feasible to do the original ones were steel fiberglass will look, just like steel. 191 00:19:00.660 --> 00:19:08.940 Andrea Boccaletti: And I don't know when Where would you envision the future funding coming to to actually complete all the capitals that are. 192 00:19:10.260 --> 00:19:12.630 Andrea Boccaletti: For the columns that are there, there were the ones that are destroyed. 193 00:19:14.850 --> 00:19:23.880 Robin: Well, Brian silveira who's on our committee has spoken with a number of the property owners that are there on Windward and on market. 194 00:19:24.300 --> 00:19:40.320 Robin: And he said that they are very interested in want to see proof of concept, I think, Jim knows, some of them also Tony bill who's one of them has apparently already lent us a capital that can be used to create the mold so we know that there is. 195 00:19:42.420 --> 00:19:50.730 Robin: helpful, you know interest in doing it, but they want to see that it can actually you know be accomplished in you know again it they wanted in hand. 196 00:19:51.660 --> 00:19:53.940 Andrea Boccaletti: lend to capital there's a capital that is. 197 00:19:54.180 --> 00:20:00.150 jim murez: So I have, I have one of the original castings that was given to me for safekeeping. 198 00:20:00.540 --> 00:20:00.990 Andrea Boccaletti: A lot. 199 00:20:01.020 --> 00:20:04.980 jim murez: it's cast iron and it weighs probably 150 pounds. 200 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:07.290 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay. 201 00:20:07.320 --> 00:20:13.500 jim murez: very, very, very heavy very bulky very big and I have it in my in my storage for safekeeping. 202 00:20:14.310 --> 00:20:15.720 Andrea Boccaletti: With a molded be made from. 203 00:20:15.990 --> 00:20:25.770 jim murez: The own the actual owner of the of the of the cast iron piece asked me to store it when he no longer had space to store it so i've been storing it for it. 204 00:20:27.570 --> 00:20:31.350 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, so any other questions from the board. 205 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:35.040 Andrea Boccaletti: From the committee as. 206 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:38.820 jim murez: Well Have you taken public comment. 207 00:20:39.060 --> 00:20:43.230 Andrea Boccaletti: We did yeah though that that's only robbins hand was raised. 208 00:20:44.610 --> 00:20:48.570 jim murez: Okay, I thought she was speaking as the submitter of the application. 209 00:20:48.630 --> 00:20:49.830 Andrea Boccaletti: called comments. 210 00:20:49.980 --> 00:20:50.760 jim murez: yeah there you go. 211 00:20:51.150 --> 00:20:51.840 Andrea Boccaletti: Now I see. 212 00:20:52.290 --> 00:20:54.210 Andrea Boccaletti: Somebody said was raised for a second. 213 00:20:54.570 --> 00:20:54.960 Okay. 214 00:20:56.550 --> 00:20:58.770 Robin: I think sonia's here she's on the committee. 215 00:21:02.280 --> 00:21:05.190 jim murez: yeah there's no other hands, so you can close public comment. 216 00:21:05.250 --> 00:21:13.410 Robin: But can I just mention one other thing, and that is that the Venice historical society for years, has said that they would do this and hasn't gotten around to it. 217 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:24.030 Robin: Nobody can get it done, we can get it done, you know we provided all the information of how we're going to get it done and its iconic. 218 00:21:25.620 --> 00:21:26.100 Robin: Thanks. 219 00:21:27.510 --> 00:21:29.370 Andrea Boccaletti: And this would be for two modes. 220 00:21:30.810 --> 00:21:34.020 Robin: as well, right now, what you're voting on is to castings. 221 00:21:34.410 --> 00:21:35.700 Andrea Boccaletti: The sorry to cast. 222 00:21:35.730 --> 00:21:38.760 Robin: Right right the other one is for creating the mold. 223 00:21:39.300 --> 00:21:48.180 Robin: Right now, they go hand in hand, but we broke it down so that they could get through without further complications on the city wanting private contracts. 224 00:21:49.020 --> 00:21:55.260 jim murez: So one is creating the negative and the other is creating the positive right. 225 00:21:56.310 --> 00:21:57.390 jim murez: Does that make sense. 226 00:21:57.780 --> 00:21:58.890 Andrea Boccaletti: yeah okay. 227 00:22:03.570 --> 00:22:06.270 Andrea Boccaletti: um alright so see no other. 228 00:22:08.370 --> 00:22:09.480 Andrea Boccaletti: hands raised by the. 229 00:22:10.740 --> 00:22:13.620 Andrea Boccaletti: Well, actually Helens hand is raised. 230 00:22:14.700 --> 00:22:15.060 jim murez: When I. 231 00:22:16.380 --> 00:22:19.590 jim murez: now see your closing public comments so we're real clear on that. 232 00:22:19.800 --> 00:22:21.540 Andrea Boccaletti: Right okay we're closing public comment. 233 00:22:23.700 --> 00:22:25.470 Andrea Boccaletti: Now Ivan has his hands raise. 234 00:22:27.300 --> 00:22:32.640 Ivan: All right, so I have a couple of questions here i've been with the idea. 235 00:22:34.530 --> 00:22:50.670 Ivan: So this is public property, the colonnades are listed as an explorer cultural monument do you have any paperwork that's going to allow you to do this, you can't just walk in and the column. 236 00:22:55.110 --> 00:22:56.340 Robin: Do you want me to respond to that. 237 00:22:57.390 --> 00:22:57.570 Robin: yeah. 238 00:22:57.840 --> 00:22:58.710 Ivan: yeah that would be great. 239 00:22:59.790 --> 00:23:08.970 Robin: Okay, so if you read the description I think it's pretty clear what we are doing is we are casting the call we're casting these two samples. 240 00:23:09.210 --> 00:23:26.010 Robin: And that way we can get the community's involvement to get this done because it will be that will be the next step is actually getting them installed, this does not include installation, but clearly we wouldn't be going through this unless our intent is to have them installed so. 241 00:23:26.550 --> 00:23:27.360 Robin: We need to take. 242 00:23:29.130 --> 00:23:29.340 Ivan: But. 243 00:23:29.520 --> 00:23:32.910 Robin: It could be francis's yep okay so that's. 244 00:23:32.970 --> 00:23:41.580 Ivan: You know, between it, I mean it would be a shame for us to give to $10,000 and then you find out that you can't get a permit to do it. 245 00:23:42.210 --> 00:23:43.560 Robin: So we can get if I can. 246 00:23:43.770 --> 00:23:44.370 jim murez: Night night. 247 00:23:44.670 --> 00:23:50.940 Ivan: That paperwork, or at least something from who whoever actually giving you permission. 248 00:23:51.330 --> 00:23:52.050 jim murez: I didn't. 249 00:23:52.260 --> 00:23:55.560 Ivan: get the money we will allow you to do this. 250 00:23:56.220 --> 00:23:56.760 Ivan. 251 00:23:57.810 --> 00:24:01.440 jim murez: I can speak to to at least in part, to that. 252 00:24:02.820 --> 00:24:05.760 jim murez: One of the property owners, who I know quite well. 253 00:24:07.170 --> 00:24:10.170 jim murez: A guy named Roger Webster, he owns the. 254 00:24:11.250 --> 00:24:12.960 jim murez: columns that are on the. 255 00:24:14.130 --> 00:24:18.780 jim murez: northeast corner of Windward and Pacific. 256 00:24:20.280 --> 00:24:29.760 jim murez: And he has gotten tired of replacing them at his expense and is very interested in having anybody. 257 00:24:31.350 --> 00:24:38.490 jim murez: come in and and take over the replacement of him, I mean he's he's tried to maintain it he's on the property for many, many years. 258 00:24:38.940 --> 00:24:46.110 jim murez: and looking and he's tried to have it done by the city he's tried to have other groups, get involved to do it and it's just never happened. 259 00:24:46.890 --> 00:24:53.700 jim murez: And, and part of the reason was because, as he explained it to me he had to pay to get the castings made. 260 00:24:54.270 --> 00:25:04.170 jim murez: And that's a very expensive process because they were being cast out of iron and and robin's approach is to make a much less expensive. 261 00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:15.420 jim murez: Casting which would be out of fiberglass and they would be much easier produced and much lighter and easier to install instead of the things weighing 150 pounds apiece the way. 262 00:25:15.810 --> 00:25:27.960 jim murez: You know less than 15 or 20 pounds and and it'll be something that volunteers can easily do so, I think that your your point is well taken they need permission to be able to put them up. 263 00:25:28.470 --> 00:25:33.960 jim murez: The issue of versus private it's a very interesting and complex issue. 264 00:25:34.590 --> 00:25:45.630 jim murez: It is part of the public right of way, but the property owners have a an easement to be able to have these columns and colonnades and the building that's above. 265 00:25:46.530 --> 00:26:02.070 jim murez: Within the public right of way and that's how it's been since added Kenny originally built the the the the Community, and so the private property owner has the responsibility to maintain the building, but it is the land itself is owned by the city. 266 00:26:03.690 --> 00:26:06.030 Ivan: Okay sure what can we do. 267 00:26:07.170 --> 00:26:10.740 Ivan: To protect ourselves to protect the board basically. 268 00:26:10.980 --> 00:26:12.540 jim murez: So the first the first. 269 00:26:13.020 --> 00:26:16.500 Ivan: One we spend this money it's not going to be more thing we can your garage. 270 00:26:16.770 --> 00:26:17.490 Ivan: Right, you know. 271 00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:19.650 jim murez: it's not in my garage but that's okay well. 272 00:26:19.770 --> 00:26:20.550 Ivan: Wherever the. 273 00:26:20.940 --> 00:26:21.660 Ivan: yeah reference. 274 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:30.330 jim murez: that the third paragraph says that these are going to be proof of concept parts to demonstrate the feasibility. 275 00:26:31.170 --> 00:26:40.680 jim murez: And to get the communities to get the property owners buy in that this is actually a feasible solution, so we are taking. 276 00:26:41.250 --> 00:26:52.470 jim murez: That leap of faith that what's being proposed is something that will work and so from that standpoint, we have to assume that Robin and her. 277 00:26:53.070 --> 00:27:05.490 jim murez: group of people that have agreed to do this and the people that are going to be fabricating the the molds to be able to do this are actually capable and and and have experienced at doing this kind of work. 278 00:27:06.930 --> 00:27:19.230 jim murez: You know I can only I can only say that i've seen robins other castings I don't know if you ever saw the Egyptian God that she had that was sort of floating around the Community for a while, until it was vandalized but. 279 00:27:20.490 --> 00:27:35.160 jim murez: I think she does have the capability to do these kinds of fiberglass molds and and and be able to demonstrate that it works to the satisfaction of people in the Community, I think, once she has them then she will have to go and ask for permission to put them up. 280 00:27:35.820 --> 00:27:36.630 Andrea Boccaletti: And Helen. 281 00:27:37.500 --> 00:27:44.490 Helen Fallon: Helen answer Henry yeah I just I think my question might have an answer, James explanation I just want to confirm. 282 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:47.730 Helen Fallon: These columns really aren't structural. 283 00:27:48.780 --> 00:27:52.050 jim murez: Because they actually are the interior of the. 284 00:27:52.050 --> 00:28:07.110 jim murez: column is structural the artwork the design on the exterior of them is not that the the column itself is actually supporting the building above and the end the arch that goes from column column, and I can bring the picture, let me scroll down and. 285 00:28:07.410 --> 00:28:07.800 Andrea Boccaletti: So we're just. 286 00:28:08.340 --> 00:28:09.780 Helen Fallon: A fiberglass then be. 287 00:28:09.780 --> 00:28:12.180 Helen Fallon: Sufficient or not understanding what. 288 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:27.750 jim murez: He asked me, so what i'm saying is is these artistic designs that are on here this this It comes down the Center of the column, these are non structural parts, the way that the basis shape the the the way that there's this round molding at the bottom. 289 00:28:27.750 --> 00:28:36.810 jim murez: that's fundamental, this is, this is all non structural structural part is in the interior of that exterior shape. 290 00:28:38.430 --> 00:28:40.440 Helen Fallon: Sorry, they casting something that goes around. 291 00:28:41.040 --> 00:28:52.620 jim murez: yeah so let me scroll down to this picture I don't know if, if I can zoom close enough that's actually four separate pieces that that each one you can sort of see there's a split line right. 292 00:28:52.620 --> 00:28:54.060 Helen Fallon: Here yeah yeah. 293 00:28:54.120 --> 00:29:05.040 jim murez: yeah so they actually bolt together, and you have to reach over the top, and so it's actually four pieces of of cast iron and and that's what you got. 294 00:29:05.760 --> 00:29:13.710 Robin: that's the capital that's what we'd be casting, we are not making the columns that are down below it because those two. 295 00:29:14.670 --> 00:29:25.380 Robin: require different things for different locations, but if we have the capital, then then again the property owners can work with us and we can get it done and as far as the. 296 00:29:25.950 --> 00:29:38.340 Robin: Quality of what this has been done it's the top like casting fabrication shop in La it's amazing that we've got them Jordan dawes who works on this kind of thing who lives in Venice. 297 00:29:38.730 --> 00:29:52.080 Robin: gave us the intro, and so the quality would be first rate to capture this kind of detail require somebody who knows how to make the proper molds and we've got them so it's it's an excellent. 298 00:29:54.180 --> 00:29:58.530 Robin: You know project put together with all the integrity that we could hope for. 299 00:29:59.370 --> 00:30:00.420 Andrea Boccaletti: I have two questions. 300 00:30:01.980 --> 00:30:02.550 Andrea Boccaletti: So. 301 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:15.210 Andrea Boccaletti: One is if somebody has already been replacing this does does that agenda, the person that you had mentioned before the business owner, does he already have, then the molds. 302 00:30:15.300 --> 00:30:30.210 jim murez: know he put he he gave his original part to a mold maker, and they have since scrapped it so he would have to take down one of his or use the one that I have to have a new mold and then to have them cast again out of buyer. 303 00:30:30.990 --> 00:30:47.100 jim murez: But that's it's an extraordinarily expensive process, I mean, then, then then you're getting into thousands and thousands of dollars per piece to have done, I mean he was spending, you know in 30 $30,000 mark is is is what he was doing, and that was 10 years ago. 304 00:30:47.430 --> 00:30:58.770 Robin: Okay, and there's two estimates I got were like 24 and $30,000 and so that this company came in at 5000 is miraculous that's just for making the mold. 305 00:30:59.100 --> 00:31:06.030 Robin: And again it's because we've got great ties here and we've got awesome people so they're doing a lot pro bono for us. 306 00:31:06.330 --> 00:31:13.920 Andrea Boccaletti: But my second question is, I mean the plaster then would be able to fix to the columns easily, that being that they would not be in cast iron, they would. 307 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:16.980 Andrea Boccaletti: enter glass that sorry five of us. 308 00:31:18.180 --> 00:31:28.830 jim murez: They were is there is in the in the top portions up here at the top, this this stuff up here, this is actually just white paint over the top of the iron casting. 309 00:31:29.190 --> 00:31:30.480 jim murez: There is no plaster there. 310 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:31.410 Andrea Boccaletti: Now i'm saying. 311 00:31:32.850 --> 00:31:41.580 Robin: Flowers on that are on the outer edge actually the Center of the flowers each has a bolt in it and they're so these four sections are bolted together. 312 00:31:41.940 --> 00:31:42.960 Robin: So they're either. 313 00:31:43.050 --> 00:31:45.030 Robin: See, can you see that the flowers in. 314 00:31:45.570 --> 00:31:48.990 jim murez: Your heart, and let me see if I can enlarge that you can almost see the ball. 315 00:31:49.740 --> 00:31:56.070 Andrea Boccaletti: Oh yeah yeah okay right okay oh yes let's see it on the right hand side there okay all right great okay. 316 00:31:56.340 --> 00:31:58.050 jim murez: Some of the show more than others. 317 00:31:58.320 --> 00:31:59.280 Andrea Boccaletti: there's my quick okay. 318 00:31:59.970 --> 00:32:15.210 jim murez: Here you can see, the ball, you can see, the ball really clearly on this one Okay, and over here and, on this side and surrounded head on this side it's a hex head okay that hex head over here and over here on this one over here surround head. 319 00:32:15.660 --> 00:32:18.060 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, is there any more comment. 320 00:32:19.290 --> 00:32:19.650 Ivan: yeah. 321 00:32:22.890 --> 00:32:23.190 Ivan: yeah. 322 00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:27.630 Ivan: Okay, I have a few questions for Robin now. 323 00:32:29.610 --> 00:32:39.000 Ivan: The you know, the total amount that we have in our budget so Community improvement projects is around 70 $500. 324 00:32:41.370 --> 00:32:46.830 Ivan: So so right now we don't have the money to fund both of these projects. 325 00:32:49.110 --> 00:32:54.300 Ivan: I guess the question is number one can you do it for less or should we just pick one. 326 00:32:56.310 --> 00:32:56.670 Andrea Boccaletti: Or what. 327 00:32:56.700 --> 00:32:58.800 Ivan: what's your solution to dealing with this. 328 00:32:59.220 --> 00:33:07.500 Robin: Well, my understanding is that, from what Andrea said at the beginning of the meeting that if you add up the monies that are in. 329 00:33:08.940 --> 00:33:25.380 Robin: The npg the CFP and additional unused funds that that according to Helen were not expected to be used before the end of this fiscal year that adds up to a total of $27,500 so. 330 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:38.340 Robin: What i'm saying is also when you evaluate each of the projects evaluate whether they are feasible because i've looked over what has been submitted ours. 331 00:33:38.670 --> 00:33:39.360 Ivan: can be. 332 00:33:40.260 --> 00:33:42.000 Ivan: I don't want to talk about the other projects. 333 00:33:42.330 --> 00:33:42.690 Robin: To say. 334 00:33:43.710 --> 00:33:44.640 Ivan: I just want to know. 335 00:33:45.690 --> 00:33:49.200 Ivan: If we have the money to fund $10,000. 336 00:33:50.310 --> 00:33:53.730 Ivan: Can you do part of this project, you know. 337 00:33:54.750 --> 00:33:57.960 Ivan: How do we deal with that because somebody is going to get cut. 338 00:33:58.860 --> 00:34:05.280 Robin: So when I asked the fabric it again we're getting an awesome bargain deal from them. 339 00:34:05.340 --> 00:34:16.110 Robin: there's no way to get but listen to me there's no way we could possibly reduce the mold making 5000 is you know, way below market. 340 00:34:17.190 --> 00:34:22.350 Robin: When they came back to me and said they could make two castings for 5000. 341 00:34:23.190 --> 00:34:30.870 Robin: I thought Okay, perhaps, then they can, if we only make one, then perhaps there's a way to reduce that. 342 00:34:31.230 --> 00:34:41.670 Robin: But it's not guaranteed, because you know it may be that they feel like they set up and they can just boom make two and so if we ask for one, it may not reduce it very much at all. 343 00:34:42.060 --> 00:34:51.450 Robin: So, again we're getting the tremendous discount pro bono, and this is a you know it'll be 100 year benefit that we're making for the Community. 344 00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:53.850 Ivan: All right, so. 345 00:34:54.930 --> 00:35:02.130 Ivan: I mean, and again I appreciate, but that's great I just want to know if we were gonna have to do some cuts to. 346 00:35:02.550 --> 00:35:10.980 Andrea Boccaletti: Ivan I don't think we need to consider the the overall budget to be able to prove to vote up or down this actual. 347 00:35:11.550 --> 00:35:12.960 Ivan: you're gonna put $1 amount. 348 00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:13.260 Ivan: on it. 349 00:35:15.120 --> 00:35:16.860 Ivan: You have to have that what our job, but. 350 00:35:17.250 --> 00:35:18.330 Ivan: Then, when we're not. 351 00:35:18.660 --> 00:35:23.490 Andrea Boccaletti: we're not giving equal way to every project, because then, then what happens is we approve this view prove. 352 00:35:23.490 --> 00:35:36.600 Andrea Boccaletti: That, then, we get to the other item and we're going to say, well, we don't have any more fun, so we can't even consider it we can't consider that we just have to vote up or down on the projects right and then isn't it up to the board, then to. 353 00:35:37.200 --> 00:35:38.010 Andrea Boccaletti: I don't know how this. 354 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:41.610 Ivan: No, no it's up to us to recommend to the board. 355 00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:46.620 Ivan: You don't want to be having this discussion with 21 people. 356 00:35:47.340 --> 00:35:59.280 Ivan: Right okay so i'm trying to see this there any way, we could do part of this if there isn't then we'll have to consider it as a whole, I just want to know what is any flexibility here. 357 00:36:02.340 --> 00:36:04.230 Helen Fallon: I think either the answer was no. 358 00:36:07.140 --> 00:36:10.740 Helen Fallon: The answer was no I then and plenty of money, I. 359 00:36:11.850 --> 00:36:12.120 Ivan: don't. 360 00:36:13.680 --> 00:36:14.310 Ivan: know yet. 361 00:36:15.060 --> 00:36:17.010 Ivan: that's what I wanted to do this first. 362 00:36:18.930 --> 00:36:28.050 Helen Fallon: I think I would propose that we should go through all everything decide which ones are meritorious which ones can't be funded, because they don't have budgets are they. 363 00:36:28.410 --> 00:36:42.600 Helen Fallon: In proper paperwork and then we look to see how much that adds up to kind of two phases, otherwise we're going to be arguing about well we can't over this because we don't have enough money for something else we have we looked at the other something else. 364 00:36:43.170 --> 00:36:47.100 Ivan: And some of them definitely everybody this question Helen. 365 00:36:48.330 --> 00:36:53.970 Ivan: I want to know if this is, you know if it's up or down then we'll deal with it on that level. 366 00:36:55.140 --> 00:36:55.590 Ivan: You know. 367 00:36:56.790 --> 00:36:57.060 jim murez: i'm. 368 00:36:57.540 --> 00:36:58.320 Andrea Boccaletti: Right well. 369 00:36:58.350 --> 00:37:01.890 jim murez: Can I speak, yes i'm just curious. 370 00:37:03.060 --> 00:37:05.460 jim murez: Once the the mold is made. 371 00:37:06.540 --> 00:37:16.410 jim murez: Is it possible that the work of making the actual parts could be done through some sort of Community project. 372 00:37:17.730 --> 00:37:28.620 jim murez: Other than having a professional fiberglass part maker, making them i've worked with fiberglass before all the surfboard shops do it all the time. 373 00:37:29.160 --> 00:37:35.850 jim murez: And it seems to me that there are other programs there's a summer Youth at risk program that the city runs every year. 374 00:37:36.240 --> 00:37:50.670 jim murez: Where where young people can be trained to do new things i'm wondering if if the making of 40 column heads is going to continue to be a cost of what sounds to me right now so it's like 20 $500 of part. 375 00:37:51.120 --> 00:37:56.970 jim murez: Whether or not we wouldn't be better off to also think about once we had the molds made a perhaps. 376 00:37:57.870 --> 00:38:05.970 jim murez: Creating some kind of a program where maybe we could train some of the homeless people that don't have jobs at this point that we could fund the jobs Program. 377 00:38:06.270 --> 00:38:14.220 jim murez: And and let them make the parts, for us, I mean you know it's the kind of thing that you pour the resident to a mall along with some fiberglass. 378 00:38:14.640 --> 00:38:21.570 jim murez: And, and you wait a few hours for it to dry you pop it out and you move on to the next one, and it seems like that's the kind of work that. 379 00:38:22.350 --> 00:38:25.860 jim murez: You know if we can be more clever with the spending of our money. 380 00:38:26.610 --> 00:38:37.920 jim murez: I would support that as well, so I think the concept of getting the molds made is the first step, and then we needed to get at least one part popped out of it, so we know that we've got something that works and then. 381 00:38:38.670 --> 00:38:49.530 jim murez: Taking that part to the property owners and showing that it's something that's feasible and then getting them to back in and maybe then then that could be more money raised and more programs created to to do more good in the Community. 382 00:38:50.850 --> 00:39:03.330 Robin: i'm just going to say this is basically an at cost to get to fabricated for 2500 and it is a extraordinarily toxic and unpleasant process, working with fiberglass i've done it, I will never do it again. 383 00:39:04.290 --> 00:39:12.900 Robin: I you know Bob Castlereagh who I who studio studio I worked out if they made architectural molds like this, all the time in St Louis. 384 00:39:13.140 --> 00:39:22.380 Robin: And you have to know what you're doing or else they bubble they crack it's not as simple as you think and we tried to get estimates also from. 385 00:39:23.100 --> 00:39:33.630 Robin: surfboard makers, they will not do it it's a very unique thing, and this is not something you could possibly get volunteers involved with it's so toxic there's no way but. 386 00:39:34.080 --> 00:39:38.970 Andrea Boccaletti: Robin i'm Just two more board comments and then we're gonna have to go to move to about Sema. 387 00:39:40.290 --> 00:39:42.210 Andrea Boccaletti: Do you have something to add. 388 00:39:44.490 --> 00:39:46.530 Robin: installation can be by volunteers. 389 00:39:46.980 --> 00:39:51.630 Andrea Boccaletti: Robin please Sema do you do you have a comment I see your hand raised. 390 00:39:53.910 --> 00:39:54.960 Andrea Boccaletti: Is she yeah. 391 00:39:54.990 --> 00:39:57.540 jim murez: she's unmuted just to speak. 392 00:39:59.430 --> 00:40:00.570 Andrea Boccaletti: CMO can't hear you. 393 00:40:06.510 --> 00:40:07.020 Sima Kostovetsky: hear me now. 394 00:40:07.260 --> 00:40:08.220 jim murez: Yes, yes. 395 00:40:09.630 --> 00:40:12.000 Sima Kostovetsky: I have a question for you, Andrea. 396 00:40:13.110 --> 00:40:18.210 Sima Kostovetsky: ivan's point do we have money this year to do this. 397 00:40:19.650 --> 00:40:32.400 Andrea Boccaletti: If we're allowed to use the money that was appropriated and other areas of the budget we're that we're obviously not going to be using by the end of the fiscal year, then, then we do yes. 398 00:40:32.640 --> 00:40:39.150 Sima Kostovetsky: And this is the only mpg that we are approving for fiscal year, given our timing correct. 399 00:40:40.200 --> 00:40:44.970 Andrea Boccaletti: Well we're gonna have to go through them all we're gonna go back to the other meeting, but this is a Community improvement project. 400 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:52.770 Sima Kostovetsky: Okay Community improvement project and it this isn't all our money correct, we will still have money for them, we will. 401 00:40:53.700 --> 00:41:05.190 Andrea Boccaletti: But it seems like one one part cannot be done without the other and The thing is, we don't want to just be spending money on something that's going to sit around and never be used, which is part of my question after you after years. 402 00:41:05.520 --> 00:41:10.590 Sima Kostovetsky: Okay, and secondly, I just want to point out the time it is 1146. 403 00:41:12.870 --> 00:41:14.460 Sima Kostovetsky: don't have me for much longer. 404 00:41:14.520 --> 00:41:19.710 Andrea Boccaletti: yeah okay Okay, so let me ask my question my question, I mean i'm. 405 00:41:20.910 --> 00:41:37.500 Andrea Boccaletti: So we we would be voting to approve or deny this, but the thing is like if we approved if we vote to approve both aspects of this, then something needs to kick in for funding for the rest, and i'm hoping and I don't know and i'm just. 406 00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:49.620 Andrea Boccaletti: wishful thinking, maybe thinking that the city of La like what you know if this gets initiated by the Venice neighbor Council, hopefully, then maybe the city of La what happened. 407 00:41:51.210 --> 00:42:05.760 Andrea Boccaletti: The City of La would want to piggyback on something like this, I mean we have the Olympics coming up, maybe the Olympic Committee is going to be spending money to beautify la I hope I don't know that the coast, I mean there's going to be visitors coming from all over the world. 408 00:42:07.110 --> 00:42:15.930 Andrea Boccaletti: So I think this is a good thing to to to beautified Venice it's a very good Community improvement project so. 409 00:42:16.980 --> 00:42:17.970 Andrea Boccaletti: that's what I have to say. 410 00:42:20.640 --> 00:42:34.500 Andrea Boccaletti: But, so I guess my last my one question was Robin is there any implementation for the funds coming forward to the I think you mentioned just briefly that there are business owners that are willing to. 411 00:42:36.750 --> 00:42:42.690 Andrea Boccaletti: Is there going to be an attempt to contact the city for funds as well afterwards to get these completed. 412 00:42:43.350 --> 00:42:51.510 Robin: Absolutely and Andrea those are great suggestions and I know that Jim mentioned in a board meeting that what Ted Lou said that there are funds for. 413 00:42:52.680 --> 00:42:57.810 Robin: For looking toward the Olympics and absolutely but it's like again it's proof of concept. 414 00:42:57.840 --> 00:42:59.190 Andrea Boccaletti: Unless we get it started. 415 00:42:59.310 --> 00:43:03.870 Robin: You can just a pipe dream that people have talked about for whatever i've been around Dennis I. 416 00:43:03.870 --> 00:43:08.100 Robin: Think almost 30 years and nobody's getting it done so yeah. 417 00:43:08.640 --> 00:43:13.410 Andrea Boccaletti: Great okay so that's the end of comment let's move that we take a vote. 418 00:43:15.510 --> 00:43:18.030 jim murez: you're doing the voting you're you're doing that talia. 419 00:43:18.600 --> 00:43:18.930 Okay. 420 00:43:21.270 --> 00:43:21.990 Andrea Boccaletti: Jim you're us. 421 00:43:22.350 --> 00:43:23.040 Yes. 422 00:43:25.200 --> 00:43:25.980 Andrea Boccaletti: Evan Spiegel. 423 00:43:28.890 --> 00:43:29.430 Andrea Boccaletti: CMO. 424 00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:33.900 Sima Kostovetsky: yeah. 425 00:43:34.620 --> 00:43:35.010 Andrea Boccaletti: what's the. 426 00:43:36.390 --> 00:43:36.900 Andrea Boccaletti: Helen. 427 00:43:37.380 --> 00:43:37.770 Yes. 428 00:43:38.970 --> 00:43:48.000 Andrea Boccaletti: And I bought, yes, so the motion carries Well, yes, the motion carries 500. 429 00:43:49.200 --> 00:43:50.790 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay now on to. 430 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:53.130 Andrea Boccaletti: number eight which I. 431 00:43:56.400 --> 00:44:04.920 Andrea Boccaletti: motion is the fabrication at the county capitals from the mold by thousand dollar requests requests to several of the original iconic historic. 432 00:44:05.370 --> 00:44:09.720 Andrea Boccaletti: Italian columns that Abbot kinney created for Woodward avenue market street and ocean front art. 433 00:44:10.140 --> 00:44:17.520 Andrea Boccaletti: walk are completely missing in need of proper capitals or repairs to get the refurbishment project started, we need to have a reusable mold. 434 00:44:18.030 --> 00:44:29.910 Andrea Boccaletti: created that will enable the casting of the capitals, is this Okay, this is the first step in securing the participation of Jason property owners to enable as many of the 40 missing columns to be replaced. 435 00:44:31.200 --> 00:44:32.340 Andrea Boccaletti: This sounds redundant. 436 00:44:32.670 --> 00:44:33.960 jim murez: I will make the motion. 437 00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:35.070 Andrea Boccaletti: But OK. 438 00:44:36.900 --> 00:44:38.970 Helen Fallon: i'll second up a call. 439 00:44:41.970 --> 00:44:51.480 jim murez: Just so you see that then it's not 100% redundant, there is a difference between those two one was the casting we agreed to have the casting now we're talking about the. 440 00:44:51.990 --> 00:44:53.670 Andrea Boccaletti: fabrication sorry okay right. 441 00:44:53.730 --> 00:45:02.490 jim murez: Right and and and let me just ask a question, because I think we've we've already heard all about all the other information, but the one thing that I did not ask on. 442 00:45:02.490 --> 00:45:02.610 Andrea Boccaletti: The. 443 00:45:02.670 --> 00:45:04.770 jim murez: door because had to do with the castings. 444 00:45:05.910 --> 00:45:08.850 jim murez: about the mold who's going to be the owner of the mold. 445 00:45:09.180 --> 00:45:11.550 jim murez: And where's it going to be stored once it's. 446 00:45:12.300 --> 00:45:13.890 jim murez: it's been used to make the 40. 447 00:45:13.890 --> 00:45:18.570 jim murez: pieces that storage will that be turned over to the dnc for storage. 448 00:45:19.380 --> 00:45:31.500 Robin: it's a rubber mold and it, we would want it to be retained by vision scenery the company that fabricates it, because then they can use it to make more if you think that there's another way to get. 449 00:45:32.010 --> 00:45:38.280 Robin: castings made we own it we will own it there's no question about that, so we can have it, but it's big thing you know how big. 450 00:45:38.730 --> 00:45:39.240 Robin: Those are. 451 00:45:40.380 --> 00:45:45.300 Robin: So we would want them to hold on to it and be able to keep making more castings for us yeah. 452 00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:48.060 Andrea Boccaletti: hold on just before this is there any public comment. 453 00:45:50.070 --> 00:45:53.790 Robin: So you said she was trying to speak and you weren't seeing her hand raised. 454 00:45:54.480 --> 00:46:00.600 jim murez: That was actually a point of clarification, but yeah let's go up we're going to public comment I can help with that. 455 00:46:02.700 --> 00:46:07.620 jim murez: There are there are no hands raised at this point if somebody wanted to raise their hand, they should do it now. 456 00:46:11.340 --> 00:46:12.900 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, see no hands go up. 457 00:46:14.250 --> 00:46:15.720 Andrea Boccaletti: Open it to board comment now. 458 00:46:17.550 --> 00:46:23.250 Andrea Boccaletti: i'm sorry I still have my hand raise, but I do, I would like to ask, so this is. 459 00:46:27.690 --> 00:46:31.320 Andrea Boccaletti: This would be for one mold yeah thousand dollars. 460 00:46:31.950 --> 00:46:34.020 Robin: One more that can be used for multiple. 461 00:46:34.230 --> 00:46:35.760 Andrea Boccaletti: castings right. 462 00:46:37.770 --> 00:46:38.100 Okay. 463 00:46:40.950 --> 00:46:42.780 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, great that's my only question. 464 00:46:44.550 --> 00:46:46.350 Andrea Boccaletti: You know the board comment Howard. 465 00:46:48.090 --> 00:47:03.810 Helen Fallon: Since this would, if it was a free pass this, I think we make sense on, we do need to move money out from either neighborhood purpose grants or out of outreach or that you know the unspent balance. 466 00:47:04.830 --> 00:47:07.950 Helen Fallon: emotion, to reflect that and make that a separate motion. 467 00:47:09.030 --> 00:47:11.130 Helen Fallon: We wait till we pass it or not. 468 00:47:13.590 --> 00:47:15.480 jim murez: i'm not sure I understood what you were asking. 469 00:47:15.630 --> 00:47:19.350 Helen Fallon: Well, we don't have $10,000 in the Community improvement project. 470 00:47:22.860 --> 00:47:23.220 jim murez: Okay. 471 00:47:23.670 --> 00:47:24.540 Helen Fallon: That it's funded. 472 00:47:25.080 --> 00:47:27.330 Helen Fallon: yeah we approve the request so. 473 00:47:28.530 --> 00:47:29.310 Helen Fallon: This motion. 474 00:47:32.190 --> 00:47:33.810 Helen Fallon: Or the outreach budget. 475 00:47:35.220 --> 00:47:36.120 Sima Kostovetsky: money out of. 476 00:47:37.290 --> 00:47:44.400 Sima Kostovetsky: If you're talking about taking money out of budget, I might add an outreach city, we figure that out. 477 00:47:46.620 --> 00:47:48.870 jim murez: yeah Sema doesn't need any more money. 478 00:47:49.380 --> 00:47:50.370 Sima Kostovetsky: Now I don't. 479 00:47:54.600 --> 00:47:55.890 Sima Kostovetsky: Take an item on. 480 00:47:57.390 --> 00:48:09.660 Andrea Boccaletti: This I mean I really don't know how this works, so this is my first go around with it, I don't know how this works, if I can we can use if we can use the funds that are going to be leftover. 481 00:48:10.680 --> 00:48:14.460 Andrea Boccaletti: and allocate them towards things that we have approved. 482 00:48:16.410 --> 00:48:17.490 Andrea Boccaletti: In these categories. 483 00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:18.330 Helen Fallon: I will. 484 00:48:19.590 --> 00:48:38.910 Sima Kostovetsky: I can give part of outreach budget if we all agree that that is how we want to go, but I also need money for end of year since we're going to be dark with the city and their funds for July and August, so I need to make sure that I have what I asked for through the end of the year. 485 00:48:40.380 --> 00:48:43.800 Sima Kostovetsky: So i'm going to move money out of my budget to this. 486 00:48:44.460 --> 00:48:46.920 Andrea Boccaletti: I think I think we'll be fine because we're gonna have. 487 00:48:48.450 --> 00:49:02.610 Andrea Boccaletti: To leave enough money for the Council to operate until the end of the fiscal year I think we're going to have roughly about 23 $24,000 available for these MP cheese and CIPS that we approved today. 488 00:49:04.500 --> 00:49:15.270 jim murez: Well, and I just did the the basic math I don't know how much the walking one goes because that's, on the other, agenda, but if both of these and the 2700 that Lisa was asking for. 489 00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:22.260 jim murez: And there was $5,000 for the quarter lane, I mean you're you're still only talking about 17,000. 490 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:24.060 jim murez: Exactly so. 491 00:49:24.600 --> 00:49:25.110 Andrea Boccaletti: let's just. 492 00:49:25.170 --> 00:49:26.880 Ivan: know the quarter line money's gone. 493 00:49:28.110 --> 00:49:29.550 Ivan: We have to reallocate the. 494 00:49:29.550 --> 00:49:39.570 jim murez: Ivan Ivan i'm not talking about that okay i'm not i'm not bringing up portal and again i'm just mentioned that everything we've talked about today is 17,000. 495 00:49:44.670 --> 00:49:54.180 Helen Fallon: I remind everybody just it's my financial background speaking here budgets are just a preliminary allocation of how you might spend your money. 496 00:49:54.630 --> 00:50:03.120 Helen Fallon: doesn't mean you decided it has to be spent That way, you can change your mind and the board can say we want to spend it on something else. 497 00:50:03.540 --> 00:50:13.770 Helen Fallon: So it's not seem as outreach budget for her to decide, she needs to she's got expensive she's anticipating Andrea she needs to be aware of them if they're. 498 00:50:14.310 --> 00:50:29.340 Helen Fallon: Something that he's not aware of, but I looked at what was coming through and I don't think there's anything big and we are funded that's what the that's what that whole budget thing that Andrei is going to be working on and the the the. 499 00:50:29.700 --> 00:50:30.720 Andrea Boccaletti: Administrative package. 500 00:50:30.810 --> 00:50:44.910 Helen Fallon: yeah the administrative package sets up all the recurring expenses and they're approved and they automatically get paid so unless you've got something being planned for July that we don't know about Sema there's nothing other than the budget and. 501 00:50:45.990 --> 00:50:48.420 Helen Fallon: expenses that are being charged to outreach. 502 00:50:48.540 --> 00:50:57.450 Andrea Boccaletti: Right and i've been i've been assured by Sema and we just heard from her personally right now that there were no other big there's no other events being planned. 503 00:50:57.930 --> 00:50:59.220 Sima Kostovetsky: Well, I got to. 504 00:50:59.460 --> 00:51:00.120 get on to like. 505 00:51:01.140 --> 00:51:13.500 Sima Kostovetsky: Wait guys I submitted something for this budget, I submitted two items for and the Cisco year they're not big items, but I just want you to be aware of that, for end of year that was my entire point. 506 00:51:13.860 --> 00:51:21.030 Sima Kostovetsky: My entire points that I need is that i've submitted what I need through the end of the year, so I just want that to be accounted for. 507 00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:23.100 Helen Fallon: So I see your mouth Sema. 508 00:51:24.180 --> 00:51:33.060 Sima Kostovetsky: In our agenda they're 1600 dollars that i'm asking for in case we do a mayoral town hall or county supervisor. 509 00:51:33.570 --> 00:51:34.680 Helen Fallon: that's all we need to know. 510 00:51:36.060 --> 00:51:48.750 Sima Kostovetsky: And then there were copies and other expenses that are coming in through other committees that are coming in through outreach so as long as that's accounted for i'm Okay, I just want to be considered, that is all. 511 00:51:49.410 --> 00:51:49.770 Okay. 512 00:51:51.060 --> 00:51:55.230 Andrea Boccaletti: All right, um Ivan last comment and then we're going to move to. 513 00:51:56.880 --> 00:51:58.530 Ivan: Remember, I was gonna say no. 514 00:52:00.660 --> 00:52:01.530 Ivan: All right, well. 515 00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:04.920 Ivan: Alright let's just go. 516 00:52:06.030 --> 00:52:09.780 Ivan: Okay i'm still trying to find out how much money we actually have but on. 517 00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:12.480 Ivan: I can't seem to get the answer. 518 00:52:15.300 --> 00:52:16.380 Ivan: According to the figure. 519 00:52:16.620 --> 00:52:18.300 jim murez: David niven you can always. 520 00:52:18.600 --> 00:52:20.520 Andrea Boccaletti: Make $500 I. 521 00:52:20.670 --> 00:52:20.880 jim murez: Can. 522 00:52:21.450 --> 00:52:22.140 Andrea Boccaletti: We can you can. 523 00:52:22.230 --> 00:52:34.590 Andrea Boccaletti: Publicly login to the Venice neighborhood Councils funding website it's it's public it's made available to the public, through the Department of neighborhood empowerment website. 524 00:52:35.820 --> 00:52:39.450 jim murez: And and i've been you can always go back and listen to the video afterwards. 525 00:52:41.940 --> 00:52:44.430 jim murez: he's he's already explained it several times. 526 00:52:45.180 --> 00:52:46.980 Andrea Boccaletti: But right Okay, he. 527 00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:53.040 Ivan: said at the beginning was we had 70 $500 of available. 528 00:52:53.310 --> 00:52:56.820 Andrea Boccaletti: Ivan the wrestling matter it doesn't matter Ivan they can be. 529 00:52:56.970 --> 00:52:59.460 Andrea Boccaletti: They can be moved from one to the other. 530 00:53:00.330 --> 00:53:01.710 Ivan: One that. 531 00:53:01.860 --> 00:53:03.660 jim murez: We understand that i've been we've had. 532 00:53:03.660 --> 00:53:05.160 jim murez: This session he's already. 533 00:53:05.850 --> 00:53:17.550 jim murez: Andre has already explained to you at least four times earlier, where the money is and I listened to it, four times and I didn't say anything but you need to take your own notes, you need to do your own. 534 00:53:17.550 --> 00:53:18.390 Ivan: homework good. 535 00:53:19.050 --> 00:53:20.430 Ivan: What I have written down here. 536 00:53:20.460 --> 00:53:29.490 jim murez: We don't need to go over it again you're just telling us what you remember, we are not asking the questions you don't need to tell us what you're remembering. 537 00:53:30.750 --> 00:53:31.320 jim murez: Okay. 538 00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:40.470 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay um i'd like to take a vote, please for this so for agenda item number eight. 539 00:53:41.820 --> 00:53:44.250 Andrea Boccaletti: With the motion that we are currently considering. 540 00:53:45.930 --> 00:53:47.490 Andrea Boccaletti: James Jim, how do you vote. 541 00:53:47.790 --> 00:53:48.420 Yes. 542 00:53:50.430 --> 00:53:50.940 Andrea Boccaletti: Ivan. 543 00:53:51.390 --> 00:53:51.690 Yes. 544 00:53:53.160 --> 00:53:53.700 Andrea Boccaletti: seema. 545 00:53:58.740 --> 00:53:59.700 Andrea Boccaletti: seema did. 546 00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:00.810 jim murez: You have to unmute see. 547 00:54:00.810 --> 00:54:01.200 matt. 548 00:54:02.640 --> 00:54:03.090 Andrea Boccaletti: Cohen. 549 00:54:03.570 --> 00:54:03.960 asked. 550 00:54:05.130 --> 00:54:10.050 Andrea Boccaletti: And I vote yes as well, so it's 500. 551 00:54:11.160 --> 00:54:11.550 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay. 552 00:54:12.030 --> 00:54:12.510 jim murez: Now there's. 553 00:54:12.570 --> 00:54:14.130 Helen Fallon: i'd like to make a motion. 554 00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:24.150 Helen Fallon: to transfer 20 $500 out of the mpg budget to the Community improvement project budget to cover this request. 555 00:54:27.300 --> 00:54:28.980 jim murez: I will second that. 556 00:54:39.720 --> 00:54:46.050 jim murez: and actually the recommendation is is that we recommend to the board 20 $500 be transferred okay. 557 00:54:46.410 --> 00:54:47.250 Helen Fallon: To cover this. 558 00:54:47.520 --> 00:54:49.110 Helen Fallon: Current approved by the board. 559 00:54:49.380 --> 00:54:57.330 jim murez: Correct i'm just wanted to make sure that you, you understood that the motion needed to say that we're recommending to the board that the board makes the. 560 00:54:57.330 --> 00:54:57.960 transfer. 561 00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:06.030 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay i'm glad you did that because I didn't even know that that would be required, but okay that's good so um. 562 00:55:08.730 --> 00:55:10.290 Andrea Boccaletti: Is there any public comment on that. 563 00:55:12.600 --> 00:55:14.250 Andrea Boccaletti: Please raise your hand if you have some. 564 00:55:15.810 --> 00:55:21.990 jim murez: hands raised Robin and Sonia let's let Sonia go first allowed to talk. 565 00:55:23.010 --> 00:55:23.370 jim murez: Okay. 566 00:55:24.990 --> 00:55:28.410 Andrea Boccaletti: Do we need to really get 30 seconds or person. 567 00:55:28.770 --> 00:55:32.280 Sonya: Okay um I wanted to talk before but. 568 00:55:32.820 --> 00:55:36.690 Sonya: Oh, and we we've the colonic the. 569 00:55:38.130 --> 00:55:57.000 Sonya: Anyway, this has been done twice before by another organization, so we can get the permits the money's going to be cheaper and I see no reason not to go forward and I think we can raise the money, once we have the molds made to. 570 00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:00.750 Sonya: complete the project. 571 00:56:01.830 --> 00:56:06.240 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, great Sonia we just approved both so you you'll have the money yeah. 572 00:56:06.600 --> 00:56:08.250 jim murez: This is that's off topic. 573 00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:15.120 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, Robin do you have some you have a comment. 574 00:56:16.140 --> 00:56:31.920 Robin: Now quickly on topic so you're transferring just enough for this, but it seems like maybe, can you make the motion to transport all funds necessary to cover any of these so you don't have to keep making these motions. 575 00:56:31.950 --> 00:56:33.060 Ivan: No, no. 576 00:56:33.150 --> 00:56:34.980 Robin: You can't do that okay. 577 00:56:35.340 --> 00:56:37.500 Andrea Boccaletti: Well, I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get there. 578 00:56:38.040 --> 00:56:40.020 jim murez: yeah, we have to, we have to do them one, at a time. 579 00:56:41.070 --> 00:56:42.330 jim murez: Okay, thank you um. 580 00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:43.890 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, so. 581 00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:45.600 jim murez: you're right there are no additional public. 582 00:56:45.780 --> 00:56:47.520 Andrea Boccaletti: All the candidates any board comment. 583 00:56:48.270 --> 00:56:48.870 yeah. 584 00:56:49.950 --> 00:56:52.110 Ivan: I, who made the motion with Jim. 585 00:56:52.620 --> 00:56:55.020 Ivan: No Helen Helen going alright. 586 00:56:55.230 --> 00:56:56.010 jim murez: Jim second. 587 00:56:56.490 --> 00:57:13.950 Ivan: Okay Okay, we turn down the quarter Wang project, so we now have $5,000 that's not going to be spent so it'll be too late to come back and do it again so i'm going to recommend Maybe I should make an amendment, it really should be the whole $5,000. 588 00:57:15.600 --> 00:57:17.010 Helen Fallon: We know what the $500. 589 00:57:17.040 --> 00:57:18.720 jim murez: We don't need that we don't need. 590 00:57:19.500 --> 00:57:22.800 Helen Fallon: We transfer the money that we need. 591 00:57:23.700 --> 00:57:24.870 Andrea Boccaletti: Are you just complicated. 592 00:57:25.860 --> 00:57:27.180 Helen Fallon: Things just stop. 593 00:57:27.240 --> 00:57:32.040 Ivan: When you made a motion somebody made a motion to 20 $500. 594 00:57:32.370 --> 00:57:34.830 Ivan: Yes, yes 5000. 595 00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:37.080 Andrea Boccaletti: No, it should eat emotion to. 596 00:57:37.560 --> 00:57:39.300 Andrea Boccaletti: Youth two things that we just. 597 00:57:39.900 --> 00:57:40.500 jim murez: hold on hold on. 598 00:57:41.910 --> 00:57:43.110 Ivan: i'm a different emotion. 599 00:57:43.110 --> 00:57:45.210 Helen Fallon: Ivan I enjoy your map. 600 00:57:45.270 --> 00:57:50.970 Helen Fallon: We approve 5000 in the first motion that left 2500 in this Community improvement grant we just. 601 00:57:53.340 --> 00:57:56.760 Ivan: motions for 5000 eat right. 602 00:57:56.820 --> 00:58:01.680 Helen Fallon: That adds up to 10,000 we have 7500 allocated, we have an approved any other community. 603 00:58:01.680 --> 00:58:02.100 Helen Fallon: improvement. 604 00:58:02.130 --> 00:58:08.760 Ivan: I know just get it all into a place where we can use it we're not gonna be able to come back and fix this. 605 00:58:09.210 --> 00:58:11.220 jim murez: For you me, talking about Ivan. 606 00:58:11.820 --> 00:58:19.980 jim murez: Ivan Ivan you're not getting it Okay, there are two Community improvement projects being requested on this agenda. 607 00:58:20.580 --> 00:58:27.030 jim murez: Okay right there's 70 $500 available for Community improvement projects currently in the budget. 608 00:58:28.080 --> 00:58:33.570 jim murez: Okay, able to be able to fund these two projects that are on this agenda, we get. 609 00:58:33.630 --> 00:58:34.170 Ivan: I get that. 610 00:58:34.230 --> 00:58:34.620 jim murez: We need. 611 00:58:36.120 --> 00:58:36.780 Ivan: To clean it. 612 00:58:36.870 --> 00:58:46.650 jim murez: Helen has now made a motion to move 20 $500 more into the budget for Community improvement projects. 613 00:58:46.740 --> 00:58:46.920 jim murez: So. 614 00:58:47.190 --> 00:58:48.780 Ivan: What about the other projects. 615 00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:49.620 jim murez: or get back. 616 00:58:50.910 --> 00:58:51.300 jim murez: we'll get. 617 00:58:51.600 --> 00:58:54.240 Andrea Boccaletti: To move money unless we know we need money to. 618 00:58:55.170 --> 00:58:57.240 Ivan: have to make another motion i'm saying that's. 619 00:58:57.390 --> 00:58:58.320 jim murez: that's correct. 620 00:58:58.620 --> 00:59:03.060 Andrea Boccaletti: But how can we make a motion to approve the money that we don't even know how much we're gonna need yeah. 621 00:59:03.090 --> 00:59:05.430 Ivan: would transfer if it's. 622 00:59:05.700 --> 00:59:08.580 Helen Fallon: Fine, we just vote on this motion. 623 00:59:09.090 --> 00:59:10.110 Helen Fallon: yeah i'm not against it. 624 00:59:10.470 --> 00:59:12.000 Helen Fallon: Now okay hold on it. 625 00:59:12.600 --> 00:59:16.140 Ivan: All right, Okay, then i'm gonna make a motion to amend. 626 00:59:16.620 --> 00:59:19.410 jim murez: there's a motion already on the floor, no. 627 00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:21.090 Ivan: i'm getting men, the motion. 628 00:59:24.420 --> 00:59:24.840 jim murez: motion. 629 00:59:24.870 --> 00:59:26.160 Ivan: You have to get a second now. 630 00:59:26.790 --> 00:59:28.140 Ivan: To $5,000. 631 00:59:29.790 --> 00:59:31.860 jim murez: It does anybody want a second down. 632 00:59:32.070 --> 00:59:32.850 Andrea Boccaletti: Here second. 633 00:59:34.680 --> 00:59:37.980 jim murez: So the motion fails now can we get on your original motion. 634 00:59:40.410 --> 00:59:49.050 Andrea Boccaletti: The original emotion is to transfer 20 $500 from the neighborhood purpose grant budget to into the Community improvement. 635 00:59:50.130 --> 00:59:55.350 Andrea Boccaletti: project budget so that we can cover these two items that we've just approved. 636 00:59:55.410 --> 00:59:57.060 jim murez: Correct vote. 637 00:59:57.300 --> 00:59:58.680 Andrea Boccaletti: For the vote okay Jim. 638 00:59:58.980 --> 00:59:59.580 Yes. 639 01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:04.260 Andrea Boccaletti: I didn't yes Sema. 640 01:00:05.520 --> 01:00:05.850 Sima Kostovetsky: yeah. 641 01:00:06.780 --> 01:00:08.280 Helen Fallon: Helen fast. 642 01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:11.190 Andrea Boccaletti: And I vote yes so okay. 643 01:00:12.660 --> 01:00:17.220 jim murez: last item on the agenda is adjournment you want to join your meeting, and then we can move back to the other one. 644 01:00:17.790 --> 01:00:18.690 Andrea Boccaletti: Okay, yes. 645 01:00:19.140 --> 01:00:21.630 Ivan: we're the other emotions for funding. 646 01:00:22.080 --> 01:00:23.280 jim murez: There, on the other, agenda. 647 01:00:24.630 --> 01:00:27.240 Ivan: I thought it was only Lisa except the only one left. 648 01:00:27.510 --> 01:00:28.440 Andrea Boccaletti: wow there's a bunch. 649 01:00:28.470 --> 01:00:30.300 jim murez: will get back there Ivan make the. 650 01:00:30.330 --> 01:00:31.290 Andrea Boccaletti: Man yeah just. 651 01:00:32.340 --> 01:00:32.730 jim murez: Tell me. 652 01:00:33.660 --> 01:00:36.540 Helen Fallon: Just the link work and you link the old link will work. 653 01:00:36.660 --> 01:00:38.820 jim murez: Yes, the old link will work as soon as I start the. 654 01:00:38.820 --> 01:00:39.420 Andrea Boccaletti: Meeting okay. 655 01:00:39.540 --> 01:00:43.410 Andrea Boccaletti: The meeting is called at 12:06pm Thank you very much, those would like to. 656 01:00:44.550 --> 01:00:44.940 Andrea Boccaletti: Please. 657 01:00:45.090 --> 01:00:48.810 Helen Fallon: Take a brief recess, maybe to get some help for two. 658 01:00:49.890 --> 01:00:50.310 Helen Fallon: minutes. 659 01:00:50.580 --> 01:00:53.370 jim murez: will give you will give you five minutes to get on the other, call. 660 01:00:53.700 --> 01:00:54.360 Helen Fallon: Okay, thank thanks.