WEBVTT 1 00:01:00.180 --> 00:01:00.750 jim murez: hi vicki. 2 00:01:01.830 --> 00:01:02.460 vicki halliday: hi Jim. 3 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:05.040 jim murez: Oh, it can turn up my volume. 4 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:07.170 vicki halliday: i'm as mad as you've ever seen me. 5 00:01:08.340 --> 00:01:10.710 jim murez: But I can't hear you, yet I gotta fix my audio. 6 00:01:23.220 --> 00:01:23.850 jim murez: say again. 7 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:26.430 vicki halliday: i'm as mad as you've ever seen me. 8 00:01:26.610 --> 00:01:32.820 vicki halliday: So let's just let's just cut to the chase you go to your debate do well and we'll have our meeting. 9 00:01:33.570 --> 00:01:37.740 jim murez: We dare I asked why you know what we're being recorded don't answer me. 10 00:01:39.810 --> 00:01:41.520 vicki halliday: read your emails you'll know. 11 00:01:41.970 --> 00:01:43.260 jim murez: All right, is there more. 12 00:01:43.590 --> 00:01:45.630 jim murez: yeah it's nonstop. 13 00:01:46.020 --> 00:01:47.820 vicki halliday: it's nonstop and i'm done. 14 00:01:49.350 --> 00:01:52.320 vicki halliday: And I want to know who created this mess. 15 00:01:54.390 --> 00:02:04.590 vicki halliday: I think the only meeting, I want to go through now that has to do with the dnc is the dnc special meeting, where we withdraw from empower la that's on air recorded. 16 00:02:05.910 --> 00:02:07.260 jim murez: Oh wait i'm trying to. 17 00:02:08.700 --> 00:02:10.980 jim murez: promote frank oh he's already. 18 00:02:11.070 --> 00:02:14.010 vicki halliday: he's already there we're Okay, you can go to your meeting. 19 00:02:14.190 --> 00:02:20.700 jim murez: I can't your host Oh, because i'm not host anymore I can't promote him, you need to help promote him to co host. 20 00:02:21.090 --> 00:02:22.530 jim murez: Okay, all right. 21 00:02:23.730 --> 00:02:24.450 jim murez: hi frank. 22 00:02:25.260 --> 00:02:25.860 frank murphy: hey Jim. 23 00:02:29.250 --> 00:02:32.370 jim murez: So i'm going to leave if anything like a panic comes up. 24 00:02:33.810 --> 00:02:34.380 jim murez: I guess. 25 00:02:36.600 --> 00:02:38.640 vicki halliday: it's a penny comes up we'll just shut it down. 26 00:02:38.790 --> 00:02:39.480 jim murez: There you go. 27 00:02:44.160 --> 00:02:44.970 vicki halliday: shut it down. 28 00:02:45.870 --> 00:02:48.600 jim murez: All right, take it easy bye for now. 29 00:02:49.380 --> 00:02:49.920 frank murphy: Take care. 30 00:02:56.250 --> 00:02:57.120 vicki halliday: Okay. 31 00:02:59.250 --> 00:03:00.450 frank murphy: All right. 32 00:03:01.740 --> 00:03:03.390 vicki halliday: it's been non stop for a. 33 00:03:03.540 --> 00:03:04.920 frank murphy: Since i've never stopped. 34 00:03:05.340 --> 00:03:05.700 No. 35 00:03:07.530 --> 00:03:09.690 frank murphy: No hopefully this will go pretty smooth. 36 00:03:10.050 --> 00:03:16.170 vicki halliday: yeah maybe we can get through early because i've got conference calls to do as soon as this is over. 37 00:03:17.190 --> 00:03:19.410 vicki halliday: It seemed as in Boston so that makes it tough. 38 00:03:20.310 --> 00:03:22.470 frank murphy: yeah that messes up your clock to. 39 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:23.310 vicki halliday: Oh boy. 40 00:03:25.770 --> 00:03:34.140 frank murphy: It looks like everybody's on for tonight I haven't heard from Pat, but other than that everybody's on collateral be a little late, I think. 41 00:03:40.320 --> 00:03:42.810 frank murphy: she's usually driving back from work so. 42 00:03:55.230 --> 00:03:58.230 frank murphy: i'll be here, thank God, so we've got our. 43 00:03:59.580 --> 00:04:00.210 frank murphy: minutes. 44 00:04:27.030 --> 00:04:27.750 frank murphy: fuzzy. 45 00:04:29.610 --> 00:04:31.440 vicki halliday: everything's fuzzy around here. 46 00:04:34.140 --> 00:04:35.130 frank murphy: it's kind of weird. 47 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:48.540 frank murphy: Well it's good to see your face. 48 00:04:48.960 --> 00:04:50.670 vicki halliday: good to see you how was the her. 49 00:04:52.110 --> 00:04:52.380 frank murphy: Oh. 50 00:04:55.440 --> 00:05:00.330 frank murphy: Very good, and we have one that was the best was we saw. 51 00:05:01.590 --> 00:05:04.920 frank murphy: This band called the trumpet mafia. 52 00:05:05.370 --> 00:05:22.800 frank murphy: Okay, and look them up and they're hot and they got couple old timers on there, but mostly really young you know look they look like high school to me but they're probably all graduate school, you know, but the boy, they were playing they were on it. 53 00:05:23.190 --> 00:05:24.090 vicki halliday: that's great. 54 00:05:24.180 --> 00:05:35.910 frank murphy: And they had a you know they had a you know they had the you know we're paying off on wood wood wood glass the other half, and then the other half would blast with answer response. 55 00:05:35.910 --> 00:05:39.030 frank murphy: Answers lunch, you know oh man, it was sweet. 56 00:05:39.900 --> 00:05:40.080 That. 57 00:05:41.250 --> 00:05:44.130 frank murphy: yeah and they had some others there to the end. 58 00:05:45.870 --> 00:05:47.520 frank murphy: Randy Newman was there. 59 00:05:47.730 --> 00:05:48.900 vicki halliday: Oh he's I loved him. 60 00:05:49.200 --> 00:05:54.510 frank murphy: yeah yeah he's he's to seem dry act, you know he's. 61 00:05:54.840 --> 00:05:56.580 frank murphy: got sits down and plays. 62 00:05:56.670 --> 00:05:59.400 frank murphy: Does one song after the other, after the other. 63 00:05:59.640 --> 00:06:00.840 frank murphy: gets up and leaves. 64 00:06:01.890 --> 00:06:02.280 vicki halliday: yeah. 65 00:06:03.750 --> 00:06:07.710 vicki halliday: Life is good for the music here it is see y'all later. 66 00:06:08.730 --> 00:06:09.540 vicki halliday: that's great. 67 00:06:10.260 --> 00:06:12.000 vicki halliday: yeah I look so read. 68 00:06:13.260 --> 00:06:20.520 frank murphy: yeah something yeah and I, and I got like the the the names and everything are all pixelated. 69 00:06:22.050 --> 00:06:25.890 frank murphy: You know they're like they're like not could be my screen. 70 00:06:26.850 --> 00:06:29.400 vicki halliday: yeah let's see who's here Lisa. 71 00:06:29.580 --> 00:06:31.170 frank murphy: Is here yeah. 72 00:06:31.980 --> 00:06:33.690 vicki halliday: i'll watch for people coming in. 73 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:35.340 vicki halliday: On. 74 00:06:39.390 --> 00:06:40.620 frank murphy: i'm still got time. 75 00:06:45.570 --> 00:06:47.010 frank murphy: yeah and there was some. 76 00:06:48.540 --> 00:06:52.680 frank murphy: Luckily, the weather was good only rained for about 20 minutes or so. 77 00:06:53.610 --> 00:06:55.500 frank murphy: Right rain yeah. 78 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:58.710 vicki halliday: When there was this this was at the Hollywood bowl or were. 79 00:06:59.370 --> 00:07:00.870 frank murphy: No, this was done in New Orleans. 80 00:07:01.320 --> 00:07:02.670 vicki halliday: Oh, you went to New Orleans. 81 00:07:02.670 --> 00:07:05.310 frank murphy: Okay yeah jazz fest. 82 00:07:05.970 --> 00:07:06.870 vicki halliday: Oh, how cool. 83 00:07:07.380 --> 00:07:07.890 frank murphy: yeah that was. 84 00:07:08.400 --> 00:07:18.000 frank murphy: festival is an incredible man you just walk from one end to the other, to the other, and so, everything is top notch that's. 85 00:07:19.500 --> 00:07:20.700 vicki halliday: Good to get out of your kids. 86 00:07:21.030 --> 00:07:22.080 frank murphy: yeah yeah. 87 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:24.510 frank murphy: hey. 88 00:07:24.570 --> 00:07:26.580 vicki halliday: My late husband was a real. 89 00:07:27.060 --> 00:07:31.320 vicki halliday: Who person, but he had worked for. 90 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.010 vicki halliday: You weren't for rod Stewart at one point. 91 00:07:36.210 --> 00:07:37.050 vicki halliday: um. 92 00:07:38.130 --> 00:07:39.030 vicki halliday: As an accountant. 93 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:41.580 frank murphy: Oh yeah. 94 00:07:41.760 --> 00:07:56.820 vicki halliday: yeah he somehow got embedded with some of the musical Inc because he was English i'm got involved with some of those guys, but he was also when the Beatles did the famous recording on the roof of um. 95 00:07:56.940 --> 00:07:57.840 frank murphy: Oh yeah. 96 00:07:57.990 --> 00:07:58.980 vicki halliday: Graham was there. 97 00:08:00.030 --> 00:08:00.360 frank murphy: yeah. 98 00:08:01.500 --> 00:08:06.810 vicki halliday: You know, but because he was really into music, but the WHO that was his favorite. 99 00:08:08.700 --> 00:08:09.780 frank murphy: yeah they were good. 100 00:08:11.190 --> 00:08:14.160 frank murphy: They we couldn't get close enough to where we could. 101 00:08:15.390 --> 00:08:17.130 frank murphy: The acoustics were a little bit. 102 00:08:18.270 --> 00:08:33.840 frank murphy: I don't know if my hearings getting bad or what but the acoustics weren't that great you know yeah so it was kind of you know all the bands, you know you had to catch them right in a sweet spot to get to be able to hear you. 103 00:08:34.710 --> 00:08:38.370 vicki halliday: With technology would think that they would be earbuds that would. 104 00:08:39.510 --> 00:08:40.260 vicki halliday: tend to tend. 105 00:08:41.430 --> 00:08:44.730 frank murphy: Probably it's probably they do have probably do have it, but. 106 00:08:45.930 --> 00:08:46.470 vicki halliday: That would be. 107 00:08:46.500 --> 00:08:54.750 vicki halliday: Great festivals, because we used to go to like glastonbury and some of those festivals in England, where it was always nothing but mud. 108 00:08:56.040 --> 00:08:56.940 frank murphy: Brian yeah. 109 00:08:59.310 --> 00:09:00.180 frank murphy: I know cj. 110 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:02.190 frank murphy: yeah good good. 111 00:09:30.570 --> 00:09:30.870 hey. 112 00:09:52.980 --> 00:09:54.000 frank murphy: Good good. 113 00:09:56.340 --> 00:09:56.700 Pat Raphael: i'm. 114 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:00.180 Pat Raphael: moving around i'm at starbucks. 115 00:10:02.280 --> 00:10:05.250 Pat Raphael: boardwalk like I normally would be but i'm on the starbucks APP. 116 00:10:06.540 --> 00:10:07.350 Pat Raphael: On Lincoln. 117 00:10:08.250 --> 00:10:15.570 Pat Raphael: Okay yep and then I also have a an in person guests for the for the Roundtable. 118 00:10:16.560 --> 00:10:18.270 frank murphy: Well, good good good. 119 00:10:18.810 --> 00:10:20.280 Pat Raphael: We don't have anybody yet doing. 120 00:10:21.510 --> 00:10:21.960 frank murphy: here's. 121 00:10:23.190 --> 00:10:25.020 vicki halliday: Okay Should I be watching for pat. 122 00:10:26.700 --> 00:10:29.460 Pat Raphael: Well he's gonna be in person, so he's here with me. 123 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:30.720 vicki halliday: Okay. 124 00:10:30.780 --> 00:10:33.150 frank murphy: Okay, great perfect yep. 125 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:39.060 Pat Raphael: All right, well i'm gonna camera off for a second. 126 00:10:39.660 --> 00:10:41.850 frank murphy: You gotta keep that power. 127 00:10:42.690 --> 00:10:44.700 Pat Raphael: yeah yeah I gotta keep everything. 128 00:10:45.990 --> 00:10:49.230 Pat Raphael: nice thing not dying before the meeting is over. 129 00:10:50.280 --> 00:10:51.060 frank murphy: You got it. 130 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:55.770 Pat Raphael: Oh, did you guys hear about the. 131 00:10:56.910 --> 00:10:57.480 Pat Raphael: The. 132 00:10:59.160 --> 00:11:04.350 Pat Raphael: I guess it should have been embarrassing for zoom but there was a report in in. 133 00:11:05.670 --> 00:11:12.750 Pat Raphael: wired magazine about how they they looked at the data stream that's coming in. 134 00:11:13.830 --> 00:11:20.190 Pat Raphael: After they've turned the camera and the microphone off and there is no change so, in other words. 135 00:11:20.730 --> 00:11:36.240 Pat Raphael: Even though zoom has told you, the camera and the microphone are off there's still collecting the same amount of information it's just an interface with the with the software, but not an actual stop collecting data but. 136 00:11:37.290 --> 00:11:37.860 frank murphy: that's correct. 137 00:11:38.130 --> 00:11:40.290 vicki halliday: me one second frank see. 138 00:11:40.560 --> 00:11:45.210 vicki halliday: That there's a problem here, suddenly my arm. 139 00:11:46.680 --> 00:11:52.470 vicki halliday: window for participants is out there that just came back okay good. 140 00:11:52.590 --> 00:11:53.160 frank murphy: I launched it. 141 00:11:53.760 --> 00:12:01.380 vicki halliday: said I needed to sign in which I can't do, because this is the dnc account and i'm like Jim has the keys. 142 00:12:02.400 --> 00:12:06.600 vicki halliday: But we're in good shape now i'm watching go ahead, Pat sorry. 143 00:12:08.340 --> 00:12:10.320 Pat Raphael: About that was just something I thought about. 144 00:12:12.030 --> 00:12:15.840 Pat Raphael: When I turn my camera off and smart smoking cannabis. 145 00:12:17.730 --> 00:12:18.600 Pat Raphael: thought about that. 146 00:12:19.950 --> 00:12:21.540 Pat Raphael: They see me doing that. 147 00:12:23.940 --> 00:12:24.420 Pat Raphael: anyways. 148 00:12:24.900 --> 00:12:26.670 frank murphy: You can still see him, but we can. 149 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:29.430 Pat Raphael: yeah that's a that's an executive still going. 150 00:14:08.160 --> 00:14:08.730 vicki halliday: frank what. 151 00:14:12.330 --> 00:14:12.990 frank murphy: five. 152 00:14:13.620 --> 00:14:14.970 vicki halliday: Okay, we need one more. 153 00:14:16.290 --> 00:14:16.560 frank murphy: yeah. 154 00:14:20.640 --> 00:14:21.750 frank murphy: everybody's committed. 155 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:31.380 vicki halliday: Was makes fun. 156 00:14:34.500 --> 00:14:38.310 frank murphy: Oh there, she is yeah all right, we can get started. 157 00:14:39.510 --> 00:14:41.340 vicki halliday: Oh hang on I gotta get her and she's not. 158 00:14:43.350 --> 00:14:43.920 frank murphy: I see. 159 00:14:54.150 --> 00:14:55.230 vicki halliday: i'm trying to promote yeah. 160 00:15:25.650 --> 00:15:26.670 vicki halliday: Finally, finally. 161 00:15:35.040 --> 00:15:35.820 frank murphy: Good good. 162 00:16:13.980 --> 00:16:14.610 frank murphy: On this. 163 00:16:16.500 --> 00:16:17.460 frank murphy: So we have. 164 00:16:21.420 --> 00:16:22.230 frank murphy: Brian. 165 00:16:23.820 --> 00:16:27.660 frank murphy: Here frank here pat here. 166 00:16:31.980 --> 00:16:32.610 frank murphy: lose here. 167 00:16:36.450 --> 00:16:37.470 frank murphy: stand here. 168 00:16:43.470 --> 00:16:44.190 frank murphy: God will be. 169 00:16:46.380 --> 00:16:47.580 frank murphy: will be a little bit later. 170 00:16:52.740 --> 00:17:00.510 frank murphy: Alright first first order is to adopt the Minutes from the last meeting anybody have any objections to that. 171 00:17:04.140 --> 00:17:05.940 Brian Ulf: make a motion to approve the Minutes. 172 00:17:06.330 --> 00:17:06.960 i'll second. 173 00:17:08.520 --> 00:17:09.690 frank murphy: Anybody object. 174 00:17:13.800 --> 00:17:16.650 frank murphy: OK, so the minister approved. 175 00:17:17.940 --> 00:17:19.050 frank murphy: chair report. 176 00:17:22.320 --> 00:17:27.300 frank murphy: You see what I have to report it's all here so we're going to go ahead with the meeting. 177 00:17:28.470 --> 00:17:30.120 frank murphy: Now we have public comment. 178 00:17:31.410 --> 00:17:34.140 frank murphy: One minute on non agenda items. 179 00:17:36.360 --> 00:17:37.830 frank murphy: So anybody want to speak. 180 00:17:39.600 --> 00:17:44.400 frank murphy: it's like Clark Lisa well i'll let you read that out vicki. 181 00:17:44.700 --> 00:17:46.050 vicki halliday: yeah um. 182 00:17:46.410 --> 00:17:47.970 frank murphy: we've got one minute on these. 183 00:17:48.210 --> 00:17:53.670 vicki halliday: yeah let's let's keep it to a minute um I don't have a timer on but. 184 00:17:53.730 --> 00:17:54.450 frank murphy: i'll time it. 185 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:57.000 vicki halliday: Okay Clark go ahead, please. 186 00:18:05.970 --> 00:18:06.600 Brian Ulf: he's on mute. 187 00:18:08.820 --> 00:18:09.690 vicki halliday: unmute yourself. 188 00:18:14.610 --> 00:18:14.880 Clark Brown: Right. 189 00:18:15.930 --> 00:18:28.890 Clark Brown: In March I emailed frank Murphy a proposed resolution to give priority to the in house and announced in Venice to live in two hotels, the city and county are buying in westchester. 190 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:37.380 Clark Brown: I asked frank, to put it on the agenda for the next homelessness committee meeting frank said he wouldn't do that because he thought it would offend westchester. 191 00:18:37.950 --> 00:18:47.280 Clark Brown: In April I emailed frank a summary of vacant lots to which the homeless, can be relocated, I asked frank, to submit the summary to this committee. 192 00:18:47.580 --> 00:18:53.850 Clark Brown: for its consideration frank never responded, even though I called an emailed him several times to do that. 193 00:18:54.510 --> 00:19:08.520 Clark Brown: frank won't consider and wharton won't allow this committee to consider anything he doesn't like that's not proper this committee is not the Murphy committee rather it's a committee of the dnc as chairman frank must allow this committee to discuss. 194 00:19:08.550 --> 00:19:17.340 Clark Brown: and consider any written serious proposals to deal with homelessness this committee should require frank to do that, thank you. 195 00:19:17.670 --> 00:19:23.070 vicki halliday: Thank you, thank you Clark on next step Lisa redmond please. 196 00:19:24.810 --> 00:19:26.940 Lisa Redmond: frank you just can't. 197 00:19:31.470 --> 00:19:31.710 vicki halliday: Wait. 198 00:19:32.310 --> 00:19:33.360 frank murphy: unmute yourself. 199 00:19:36.330 --> 00:19:44.760 Lisa Redmond: I did unmute myself a little thing popped up and I said unmute anyway i'm going pointing out that. 200 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:52.050 Lisa Redmond: You can't just say well you'll see what's here in front of you for the Chair report, not everyone has access to see what's here in front of you. 201 00:19:52.710 --> 00:19:58.050 Lisa Redmond: i'm just going to mention that you need to follow robert's rules and be proper and report. 202 00:19:58.560 --> 00:20:09.300 Lisa Redmond: and have access for everyone, so that they can have access, including our own House neighbors and stakeholders who might be listening in but don't have access to an agenda in front of them, thank you. 203 00:20:12.150 --> 00:20:12.480 frank murphy: Thanks. 204 00:20:15.300 --> 00:20:18.630 vicki halliday: um that's it for public comments. 205 00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:21.450 frank murphy: Okay. 206 00:20:23.520 --> 00:20:24.360 frank murphy: So we have. 207 00:20:25.560 --> 00:20:30.180 frank murphy: you're going to introduce somebody on the homeless round table you hear. 208 00:20:34.350 --> 00:20:36.630 frank murphy: That can you bring up your camera. 209 00:20:39.450 --> 00:20:40.200 frank murphy: yeah I can hear you. 210 00:20:40.860 --> 00:20:41.850 Pat Raphael: Okay, so. 211 00:20:43.650 --> 00:20:54.810 Pat Raphael: Start starbucks parking lot hanging out online with my friend Kim he's a member of the Community and he's been seeing. 212 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:04.080 Pat Raphael: So this is a multi generation member of the Community so it's important to to kind of. 213 00:21:05.820 --> 00:21:24.690 Pat Raphael: Have perspective from a lot of different folks so that we can have as much information as we gather the experiences of people, so I thought it was appropriate he was at one point by choice living on the beach he moved through a. 214 00:21:26.340 --> 00:21:41.490 Pat Raphael: Shared housing program had certain experiences there and then now he's kind of between home in in hanging out with us during the boardwalk and I wanted him to be able to share his experience and have a sense of. 215 00:21:42.540 --> 00:21:55.920 Pat Raphael: History in and let folks understand how things have maybe evolved some for the goods and for the bad and kind of get a sense of where we are now so I don't know it with that Kim did I take it away. 216 00:21:59.670 --> 00:22:01.950 Brian Ulf: She gonna go on camera is he going on there. 217 00:22:04.590 --> 00:22:06.000 frank murphy: yeah Jim. 218 00:22:07.950 --> 00:22:08.820 Brian Ulf: came with a K. 219 00:22:17.220 --> 00:22:19.050 Brian Ulf: Can he come closer to the microphone. 220 00:22:21.840 --> 00:22:22.200 Okay. 221 00:22:23.490 --> 00:22:24.540 Pat Raphael: Can you hear me. 222 00:22:24.840 --> 00:22:28.470 Brian Ulf: Now yeah yeah so anyway, thank you. 223 00:22:30.390 --> 00:22:40.260 Pat Raphael: So I look for a place for myself and they end up telling me I couldn't do like it, because the amount of money, I made or whatever I couldn't afford anything basically gave me a shirt in the room place and then they tried to. 224 00:22:40.980 --> 00:22:51.840 Pat Raphael: Like it was a term experience they took my money and they kept telling me I couldn't come back, because according teams and stuff like that so like you know all this stuff and. 225 00:22:53.730 --> 00:22:59.640 Pat Raphael: They started trying to tell me when I can come in the House and, like it's just like crazy they talk about money, you know, but then. 226 00:23:00.120 --> 00:23:12.690 Pat Raphael: They control you like you can't cook there's always somebody in the in the way when you try to click share the kitchen all the stuff and it's actually a person on the site that gives you a hard time you know the person that works to place that gives you a hard time and then they. 227 00:23:13.860 --> 00:23:22.920 Pat Raphael: You know what what was the name of that was the care the care program chair for this conference as. 228 00:23:25.260 --> 00:23:31.800 Pat Raphael: Well yeah they had a few houses and stuff and they were like I don't know it's like the they don't let the people if you can't live you can't. 229 00:23:32.610 --> 00:23:45.000 Pat Raphael: come in a certain time if you're trying to go to work or something like that they wouldn't let you work like like they wouldn't let you what I couldn't cook in the place, I couldn't just to the music or in even in the daytime. 230 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:56.670 Pat Raphael: know that was everything was restricted based and they were taking my money and they wouldn't let they didn't give me my down payment back after I moved out to place because I moved out because it can be. 231 00:23:57.900 --> 00:24:03.420 Pat Raphael: And so they're supposed to give me my deposit back and they never even gave me i'm still trying to get. 232 00:24:04.590 --> 00:24:04.890 Pat Raphael: You. 233 00:24:05.970 --> 00:24:17.310 Pat Raphael: So that was one experience and then after that you now are living back home yeah alright, so this is within the oakland Community near near near that area and. 234 00:24:18.390 --> 00:24:24.720 Pat Raphael: Can we talk about some of the experiences you've seen, especially from the neighbors to the homeless and. 235 00:24:26.250 --> 00:24:33.210 Pat Raphael: Some of the the changes that has happened and how people used to maybe be receptive and things that made those. 236 00:24:34.830 --> 00:24:42.300 Pat Raphael: People who are creative like a challenge, or something we can meet yourself and maybe get famous you know get rich whatever like that and. 237 00:24:42.660 --> 00:24:51.990 Pat Raphael: Nowadays it's like people don't want you to even come out there, so like I see some people that come up there, and that makes it look like like barnhart you know, like stuff like that and or other people who are like okay like. 238 00:24:53.550 --> 00:24:59.580 Pat Raphael: The one day he just got famous recently too and that's a good it's a good story of this do because he doing it and making it but. 239 00:25:00.750 --> 00:25:07.890 Pat Raphael: They were they used to give me a hard time parking this car to bring us this speakers and stuff like that, up to the beach, you know and and they like. 240 00:25:08.220 --> 00:25:16.230 Pat Raphael: To like do stuff to us car like literally the people that live in the neighborhood they'll come up for me I kind of God we actually cut guy coming on site for anybody on the ground. 241 00:25:18.180 --> 00:25:28.530 Pat Raphael: Next to the guys the guys car and stuff and and they were trying to wait, because I guess people hang out here the car to try to stop people from hanging out there. 242 00:25:32.040 --> 00:25:36.990 Pat Raphael: I never expected you know liberal never seen anybody actually got to wait to try to do something like that. 243 00:25:38.280 --> 00:25:46.890 Pat Raphael: yeah when when the data is famous he actually has a clothing store now clothing line and some other stuff and just songs being played some kind of way. 244 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:50.730 Pat Raphael: he's getting he's don't praise making progress, but. 245 00:25:53.010 --> 00:25:54.780 Pat Raphael: i'm just saying that you can have a better story. 246 00:25:57.150 --> 00:26:00.060 Pat Raphael: So if we're thinking about emotions are we were trying to. 247 00:26:01.800 --> 00:26:08.550 Pat Raphael: Project ideas forward Oh, what are some of the things you think we should be considering like if if we were to. 248 00:26:11.340 --> 00:26:14.550 Pat Raphael: speak up a little bit I can't communicate more with the people that are struggling. 249 00:26:16.170 --> 00:26:17.490 we're making them feel like they're not work. 250 00:26:18.630 --> 00:26:19.110 Because. 251 00:26:20.670 --> 00:26:24.990 vicki halliday: Can you get the microphone closer, please, we can barely hear. 252 00:26:26.220 --> 00:26:27.060 vicki halliday: You Thank you. 253 00:26:27.810 --> 00:26:36.870 Pat Raphael: I just think that people should be more embracing to the people who are struggling out here and and you know, instead of pushing them away or making them feel like they're not there, you know they have no home. 254 00:26:39.060 --> 00:26:47.550 Pat Raphael: we're already struggling that's like can't get any better than that, like even me I rented a car to stay inside the car for a minute, and the first day that I paid. 255 00:26:49.380 --> 00:26:50.130 Pat Raphael: They came in total. 256 00:26:51.840 --> 00:27:00.420 Pat Raphael: And that was i'm laughing now it wasn't a laughing matter and, by the way, this was something that happened in 2021. 257 00:27:00.840 --> 00:27:11.730 Pat Raphael: When like a few weeks after that we had the police chief come tell us in the committee that they're not knowing people's car when they know they're homeless. 258 00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:19.980 Pat Raphael: And if you guys remember I spoke up and I said hey I know a case well, this was the case, it was his car that got killed, like the day he paid for it. 259 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:39.660 Pat Raphael: And I don't know I mean I I, I hope, at some point when we're considering these ideas as much as possible we try to have more voices in the conversation that's what my myself and Kim has been talking about and and I appreciate that. 260 00:27:41.040 --> 00:27:49.380 Pat Raphael: yeah this, this is, this is another way to to get more people at these seeing what human beings are going through. 261 00:27:51.990 --> 00:27:52.290 Pat Raphael: Right. 262 00:27:53.400 --> 00:28:01.440 Pat Raphael: So of course he's at an advantage, because he is he's got family close by he's got you know he can go take a shower when he needs to. 263 00:28:01.800 --> 00:28:15.420 Pat Raphael: He can leave some of his stuff right so imagine somebody who doesn't have any of those things, and still is gotta survive and make it and I think it's with this mindset that we have to think about solutions. 264 00:28:20.190 --> 00:28:24.690 Pat Raphael: Any questions anybody want to ask anything or have any follow ups. 265 00:28:26.460 --> 00:28:26.940 frank murphy: one. 266 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.210 frank murphy: wants to dig a little bit more into your. 267 00:28:34.800 --> 00:28:37.410 frank murphy: into your story about you know. 268 00:28:38.850 --> 00:28:46.710 frank murphy: where you live, you know how how you wound up where we are, etc, etc. 269 00:28:49.650 --> 00:28:51.750 frank murphy: Just a little bit more backstory. 270 00:28:53.610 --> 00:28:54.360 frank murphy: To give us a. 271 00:28:55.500 --> 00:29:00.150 frank murphy: You know I mean your local, which is what you were saying and. 272 00:29:03.630 --> 00:29:04.920 frank murphy: more about that. 273 00:29:10.380 --> 00:29:20.610 Pat Raphael: yeah anything you want to add, because I think the perception sometimes is everybody who's here homeless came from somewhere else, while I know that's a big population, I came from somewhere else. 274 00:29:21.090 --> 00:29:31.200 Pat Raphael: But there are experiences of people who, you know as as he's talking about as kind of just that I let you to give a little background. 275 00:29:31.740 --> 00:29:46.620 frank murphy: How was it How was the How was the what's the changes you've seen over the time that you know you've been experiencing what you've been experiencing house Java house getting jobs how's. 276 00:29:47.190 --> 00:30:06.450 frank murphy: how's a housing where did your you know, like you say you're you're back living with your family now and how did that impact you previously, you know was how did gang intervention impact you that was back in the 90s, etc, etc. 277 00:30:13.470 --> 00:30:14.940 Pat Raphael: Then again, actually, it was hopefully. 278 00:30:16.650 --> 00:30:20.070 Pat Raphael: Until recently, but you look the last few years i've noticed. 279 00:30:22.320 --> 00:30:22.950 Pat Raphael: Since a train. 280 00:30:26.700 --> 00:30:34.170 Pat Raphael: I don't know I grew up over here, and then I moved on to live with my wife I got my wife got married with me and we lived in Oregon for a while. 281 00:30:34.860 --> 00:30:49.110 Pat Raphael: And then she died was somebody murdered her actually some soccer guy killed her keywords Jill and then we have problems with our property because her family where's your property or property, so we ended up to essentially was dead. 282 00:30:51.030 --> 00:30:53.970 Pat Raphael: We just after that that's what happened and someone's background here. 283 00:30:54.870 --> 00:31:04.950 Pat Raphael: yeah couldn't find a place, and so I stay with my mom for a few days, maybe, maybe like a month, and then I realized that I wanted to see you know, being in everybody else's here, I was trying to get my stuff together. 284 00:31:05.460 --> 00:31:15.930 Pat Raphael: So I pursued hustling at the beach and getting slightly, which is maybe on the on the boardwalk you know work for people who like clothing store and liquor store doing like little small security here and they're. 285 00:31:16.410 --> 00:31:27.150 Pat Raphael: Small stuff like that to just to keep some bread in my pocket, and at least you know stay afloat and hope for you know, the better, but everything went up on the prices and everything I didn't think it'd be hard time finding the place. 286 00:31:32.670 --> 00:31:36.780 frank murphy: Are you finding the interaction with the other homeless. 287 00:31:37.860 --> 00:31:41.190 frank murphy: throughout the Community, I mean you, being a local. 288 00:31:42.780 --> 00:31:43.770 frank murphy: what's the. 289 00:31:45.900 --> 00:31:48.690 frank murphy: Environment like for you. 290 00:31:50.340 --> 00:31:50.820 frank murphy: there. 291 00:31:56.280 --> 00:31:57.360 vicki halliday: I think they're frozen. 292 00:31:58.860 --> 00:31:59.730 Pat Raphael: hello, can you hear me. 293 00:32:00.030 --> 00:32:00.060 frank murphy: I. 294 00:32:00.840 --> 00:32:01.530 vicki halliday: can hear you. 295 00:32:02.190 --> 00:32:05.670 Pat Raphael: yeah sorry I had a little technical difficulty there. 296 00:32:10.980 --> 00:32:11.340 Pat Raphael: Hello. 297 00:32:11.970 --> 00:32:15.060 frank murphy: yeah yeah so go ahead. 298 00:32:16.380 --> 00:32:16.590 Sorry. 299 00:32:18.210 --> 00:32:20.790 frank murphy: Well, basically, did you hear their question yeah. 300 00:32:22.110 --> 00:32:22.530 The question. 301 00:32:24.600 --> 00:32:37.980 frank murphy: Is how's the interaction with the other homeless, how are you I heard you refer to, how you know, we need to you need to have more interaction between the House in the House so that there's. 302 00:32:39.300 --> 00:32:44.220 frank murphy: there's more of a real understanding of what's going on how's your reaction. 303 00:32:45.330 --> 00:32:52.740 Pat Raphael: Since since i've lived in Dennis my whole life and I talked to people, even though even people homeless, all the time, I became friends with them, you know, like a lot of people. 304 00:32:53.220 --> 00:33:01.920 Pat Raphael: who are homeless right now I like I don't actually like know him personally and that's why I knew I could come up you know the street, when I when I needed to. 305 00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:08.490 Pat Raphael: You know because I felt safe for him so like I just think people need to get to know the people that are that are out there, so they know who's who. 306 00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:14.760 Pat Raphael: Because there are some bad guys don't get me wrong, you know understanding things like this perfect but majority of people. 307 00:33:15.300 --> 00:33:24.900 Pat Raphael: You know a lot of good people out there they're just struggling I think if they got to know him then maybe they give them a chance you know, maybe people can work together and then, when we almost anywhere, you know. 308 00:33:25.830 --> 00:33:33.270 Pat Raphael: They probably get a job or something you know you can trust them because there's a lot of people that are trustworthy optics and you know it just in a bad situation. 309 00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:35.010 Pat Raphael: yeah. 310 00:33:39.420 --> 00:33:41.160 Brian Ulf: Can I ask a question, Kim are. 311 00:33:42.810 --> 00:33:48.990 Brian Ulf: They Kim how are you Thank you again for for being with us sorry about your wife horrible experience. 312 00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:52.860 Brian Ulf: And i'm sorry, you had a bad experience it's your housing thing it carrie. 313 00:33:52.890 --> 00:33:55.710 Brian Ulf: Can you can you tell us you. 314 00:33:56.730 --> 00:34:04.110 Brian Ulf: How was your relationship with all the outreach workers that are out there there's a lot of people that are the House. 315 00:34:04.590 --> 00:34:11.250 Brian Ulf: That don't have the technique or the or the ability to come out and actually do outreach other than maybe saying hi and Hello. 316 00:34:11.640 --> 00:34:26.460 Brian Ulf: Can you tell me how's your trust with the people, and when you said you're having problems getting into the housing who who's your case manager, who is the agency that talks you all the time, what do they do and do they do good work with you. 317 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:30.720 Brian Ulf: And and tell us something maybe something good that's happened. 318 00:34:33.120 --> 00:34:34.890 Pat Raphael: I was dealing with St joseph's before well. 319 00:34:35.190 --> 00:34:39.450 Pat Raphael: And he's just it was a really long waiting list, and then I then I came back and I found out to be. 320 00:34:39.900 --> 00:34:45.660 Pat Raphael: canceled my you know my case so it's like I had to start all over again, and it happened to me a few times this, this has been like. 321 00:34:46.290 --> 00:34:56.940 Pat Raphael: Over 14 years you know, like literally I went back there and they had a lot of stuff was different there and everything like that and I can't even try to do the same thing again and they still never. 322 00:34:57.960 --> 00:34:59.250 Pat Raphael: never, never how. 323 00:35:02.040 --> 00:35:02.310 Brian Ulf: Are you. 324 00:35:02.580 --> 00:35:03.420 Pat Raphael: Are you in the Court. 325 00:35:03.450 --> 00:35:03.870 Brian Ulf: Are you in the. 326 00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:10.440 Pat Raphael: house is because they actually went to the hospital and the hospital, let me out to a shelter. 327 00:35:11.130 --> 00:35:18.870 Pat Raphael: The shelter yourself, let me stay there for about almost a year, you know I mean and they helped me build up and generate income they helped me. 328 00:35:19.470 --> 00:35:28.800 Pat Raphael: To get all the money you know ids and everything's all when I was in the street all my stuff that stolen from me and all the bank's got taken up some on that from the from the people from the was it city. 329 00:35:31.650 --> 00:35:39.420 Pat Raphael: Every week and you come back to where your stuff is that and everything will be taking i'm talking about like you have important stuff your bags yeah my my my my. 330 00:35:40.410 --> 00:35:45.510 Pat Raphael: birth certificate to get all that stuff over again, you know I can you approach that was me. 331 00:35:45.900 --> 00:35:55.530 Pat Raphael: For a while and I had police harassing me take me to the station, just to make Brittany and stuff to make sure i'm blessed day, every time and just cuz I didn't have to pay, you know, and I was like this is like i'm from out here, he. 332 00:35:58.650 --> 00:35:59.250 Pat Raphael: recognized me. 333 00:36:01.470 --> 00:36:03.630 Pat Raphael: But yeah because I live with my grandparents live. 334 00:36:05.640 --> 00:36:07.590 Pat Raphael: A few generations who we are. 335 00:36:11.730 --> 00:36:23.130 Brian Ulf: it's concerning that you've been there 14 years that you have had caseworkers and then it's either them dropping the ball, or you miss an appointment, or whatever how, how do you think that can get better because. 336 00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:36.630 Brian Ulf: that's the solution that the city and the county are giving us as a community to help you and if what we're being given to help you isn't being given to help you. 337 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:41.910 Brian Ulf: what's the answer Pat, you might be able to answer that too, I mean how many people come up to you, Pat. 338 00:36:42.510 --> 00:36:50.490 Brian Ulf: As a person that's on the boardwalk and say hey let's do intervention, how do we get you off this boardwalk, how do we get you into a job, how do we get you into housing. 339 00:36:50.940 --> 00:37:00.330 Brian Ulf: Tell us really what's going on and what can we do, and maybe Stan knows this, because he's out there, doing a lot of outreach but i'm concerned that. 340 00:37:00.900 --> 00:37:16.260 Brian Ulf: Apparently you're falling through the cracks and if if if the homeless committee in the in the residents of Venice are under the assumption that are nonprofits are out there, doing this day to day work and should be on a first name basis with you. 341 00:37:16.860 --> 00:37:20.100 Brian Ulf: know everything about you are you in the coordinated entry system. 342 00:37:22.410 --> 00:37:25.350 Pat Raphael: This is like having like hmm is number and then. 343 00:37:26.520 --> 00:37:33.360 Pat Raphael: Okay, so one of the easiest ways to fall through the cracks is to do the best you can and not be a problem. 344 00:37:34.530 --> 00:37:37.800 Pat Raphael: Right, and I think that's something that that I think. 345 00:37:38.910 --> 00:37:39.360 Pat Raphael: kind of. 346 00:37:40.410 --> 00:37:46.770 Pat Raphael: obscures the problem, a little bit we don't really see how bad things are because when somebody doesn't have. 347 00:37:47.340 --> 00:37:54.210 Pat Raphael: neighbors calling the COPs on him all the time because they're quiet and they pack up their stuff and they leave in the morning it's like a lot of times. 348 00:37:54.630 --> 00:38:02.010 Pat Raphael: there's sense of responsibility, never puts them in contact with caseworkers because caseworkers are busy looking. 349 00:38:02.430 --> 00:38:16.140 Pat Raphael: For people who are bigger problems frankly in i'm not saying that's a bad thing, but I feel like if we're trying to deal with numbers, we have to address it with how to read, how do we reach. 350 00:38:17.220 --> 00:38:23.430 Pat Raphael: I want to say everybody, but at least as many people as practical or could use it. 351 00:38:24.510 --> 00:38:28.980 Pat Raphael: And to me that seems to be one of the ways that we're we're we're kind of dropping the ball. 352 00:38:33.420 --> 00:38:34.590 Brian Ulf: It sounds like a bigger issue. 353 00:38:37.830 --> 00:38:43.590 Brian Ulf: You know the last thing we want to do is bash our profits, but if you can't even have a meeting. 354 00:38:44.820 --> 00:38:48.240 Brian Ulf: Over 14 years, three or four or five times something's broken. 355 00:38:48.630 --> 00:38:50.310 Pat Raphael: yeah that's that's what I was wondering why it was. 356 00:38:51.720 --> 00:38:55.410 Pat Raphael: set to what to do, we came I came like maybe two months straight. 357 00:38:56.010 --> 00:39:03.540 Pat Raphael: Just to make sure you know, they started telling me that I was coming into much because I was asking to do too, and he told me that they put the way they do it, he finally told me. 358 00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:14.010 Pat Raphael: The way they do it it's like a lottery or something they choose a name out of the kind of a group of names and you're mean and they believe they give you a survey to do surveys and stuff like that, and then. 359 00:39:14.580 --> 00:39:18.810 Pat Raphael: You started on these things, and then maybe it's sort of like just this weird it's like it's like some. 360 00:39:20.610 --> 00:39:21.270 Pat Raphael: pch. 361 00:39:28.860 --> 00:39:34.800 Pat Raphael: So people don't want to go through it if they don't see the effort is going to deliver results. 362 00:39:36.660 --> 00:39:38.970 Brian Ulf: Where you offered a hotel room and a project to. 363 00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:42.450 Brian Ulf: Project COM key ramada INN or any army. 364 00:39:43.350 --> 00:39:50.460 Pat Raphael: No, no, no repeat, I was wondering, because I came back up, so this, we need to have a chance, I was like making sure to be seen. 365 00:39:54.060 --> 00:39:55.860 Pat Raphael: As i'm always busy and i'm trying to stay, you know. 366 00:39:57.180 --> 00:40:07.620 Pat Raphael: bro science in a moment, but at the same time, I mean, I want to find out about services, I tried to receive you know they look at me they think that I don't really need them, or they think they are this I don't know why they just. 367 00:40:08.160 --> 00:40:11.430 Pat Raphael: think like there's other people that probably needed more than me, but I think. 368 00:40:12.540 --> 00:40:19.740 Pat Raphael: that's an interesting thing to think about, because if you're making a decision, the flight this guy doesn't really need it as much. 369 00:40:20.130 --> 00:40:29.550 Pat Raphael: Because this guy is like sitting here eating dirt and yelling and they're gonna call me about him tomorrow and the day after that right you almost want to put the guy that seems more functional. 370 00:40:30.210 --> 00:40:42.570 Pat Raphael: A later on in the process and, and I even would propose that sometimes over time people's mental health start to fade so it takes a measure of strength didn't. 371 00:40:43.680 --> 00:40:44.370 Pat Raphael: go crazy. 372 00:40:46.680 --> 00:40:50.220 Pat Raphael: So much sometimes you wonder if you notice or you know. 373 00:40:52.410 --> 00:41:00.030 Brian Ulf: I do, I do think they prioritize based on need, I mean the original permanent part of housing housing first model was originally. 374 00:41:00.540 --> 00:41:13.170 Brian Ulf: meant to service the the 1% of the extremely vulnerable and house population and now it's kind of they're trying to sweep it into a one size fits all but. 375 00:41:13.830 --> 00:41:26.190 Brian Ulf: that's why I asked if you're in the coordinated entry system because part part of that all that you get acuity scores and measure how you are and how much services, you need as quickly as possible and so. 376 00:41:26.640 --> 00:41:41.520 Brian Ulf: You know, but it's persistent how persistent have you been ah, to continue to go after that, because a lot of the with so many if there's 2000 if you're not in their face every day saying I want help I want help I want help. 377 00:41:43.830 --> 00:41:46.440 Brian Ulf: How does that work, I mean yeah. 378 00:41:48.930 --> 00:41:51.780 Brian Ulf: You kind of have to make make your opportunity happen. 379 00:41:54.330 --> 00:41:58.080 frank murphy: Well, I didn't use three Kim just a second ago. 380 00:41:59.130 --> 00:42:05.400 frank murphy: That when you went to them, often they kept saying don't come in. 381 00:42:06.450 --> 00:42:06.750 Pat Raphael: yeah. 382 00:42:07.710 --> 00:42:09.390 frank murphy: Like the reverse of that. 383 00:42:09.420 --> 00:42:09.840 You know. 384 00:42:13.290 --> 00:42:15.240 Pat Raphael: What i'm President President but sorry. 385 00:42:19.980 --> 00:42:24.660 Pat Raphael: I wish you were like literally I came in there before it was time for me to be there one day. 386 00:42:25.140 --> 00:42:30.780 Pat Raphael: And let and they're not waiting for four or five hours they've seen everybody in the place knows the end of the day, and they said they called my name. 387 00:42:31.140 --> 00:42:36.000 Pat Raphael: So many times and I didn't and I must not have been there and I was like no that's not true because i've been here since today. 388 00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:42.600 Pat Raphael: Since the time we walked into law that was out there at seven in the morning waiting outside the door, the place, I met a bunch of people there. 389 00:42:43.080 --> 00:42:51.180 Pat Raphael: You know outside and everything, so I was like this, they saw me right here, I came in, I signed the paper I kept asking you know, I was there, like everybody suddenly someone the guy said. 390 00:42:51.690 --> 00:42:59.370 Pat Raphael: That I wasn't there, I was like wow how many you know it's like I made sure to be guys face here this achievement as for coffee is for water, you know. 391 00:43:00.090 --> 00:43:07.380 Pat Raphael: As for success first person that was just you know just asked for the resources, taking it and so there's no animal you didn't see me every hour. 392 00:43:08.430 --> 00:43:13.980 Pat Raphael: You know right there you know waiting and then I saw the time came and passed that my appointments for. 393 00:43:14.550 --> 00:43:21.780 Pat Raphael: Then they said that I was there on time they tried to scold me and tell me how you know if I would have been there and they would have did you notice that i've been here, what are you talking about security. 394 00:43:22.140 --> 00:43:30.210 Pat Raphael: I remember the first security left and another guy came in two places you don't have to bring enough stuff to happen, like if I wasn't here, no, no, they got they got mad at me. 395 00:43:30.690 --> 00:43:37.590 Pat Raphael: Like I was trying to go up there, and I was like oh no he just told me like like I was like I was the problem or the reason that I didn't get you know my service today. 396 00:43:38.100 --> 00:43:46.710 Pat Raphael: You know, like there was something that was my excuse to not even do anything but talk to me for like another half hour and and you know about me being bad or something. 397 00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:58.440 Pat Raphael: crazy, so I knew that that was that was like and I couldn't save things even defend myself, because I felt like everything like i'm just trying to argue and I wasn't trying to argue, I just wanted to give you. 398 00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:03.030 Brian Ulf: An advocate. 399 00:44:03.600 --> 00:44:03.930 You know. 400 00:44:05.160 --> 00:44:15.150 Brian Ulf: I know Lisa redmond's on this call, and I know she works, a lot and on the streets with everybody and maybe Lisa can get information with you or. 401 00:44:15.750 --> 00:44:25.320 Brian Ulf: And and find an advocate because she knows everybody at La at St joseph's Center and all those agencies, maybe she can help walk you through the door and and be an advocate for you. 402 00:44:26.310 --> 00:44:26.550 Nice. 403 00:44:28.680 --> 00:44:31.080 Pat Raphael: I also thought we were supposed to also be. 404 00:44:32.460 --> 00:44:33.300 Pat Raphael: advocating. 405 00:44:34.650 --> 00:44:41.940 Pat Raphael: Through policy or through you know bigger picture conversations, but I kind of thought that's our job as well right. 406 00:44:42.270 --> 00:44:45.360 frank murphy: Well, you know I I do that as a as. 407 00:44:45.450 --> 00:44:51.060 Brian Ulf: A as a board member and non paid person I do outreach on the street all the time because of my sobriety stuff. 408 00:44:52.290 --> 00:45:05.310 Brian Ulf: And you know when I come across I hand out flyers and try to get people into housing, but you know we as a Community rely on our nonprofits that are funded to do this outreach and be the advocates and case managers. 409 00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:07.230 Brian Ulf: To get a guy like Kim. 410 00:45:07.260 --> 00:45:16.110 Brian Ulf: Through the process and sometimes if it's just one on one and you don't have that special advocate or case manager that's why i'm trying to recommend Lisa remnant. 411 00:45:17.190 --> 00:45:26.760 Brian Ulf: who's just out there and can walk you in that door and she won't take no for an answer she'll get you where you have to be, and I think that's kind of what we're doing but but pat. 412 00:45:27.330 --> 00:45:35.340 Brian Ulf: This this board, you know isn't outreach workers and isn't people that have you know it's very difficult to get people through this process. 413 00:45:36.090 --> 00:45:40.440 Brian Ulf: Because of all the red tape in the bureaucracy that goes along with it, you know you got path to. 414 00:45:40.980 --> 00:45:48.540 Brian Ulf: Lhasa you got there's so many different outreach workers that are out there, that that know the system anyway i'm i'm talking too much, but i'd recommend. 415 00:45:48.900 --> 00:45:55.140 Brian Ulf: If Lisa she'll be probably making a public comment or something and I don't mean to do this to you Lisa that's not what you want to do. 416 00:45:56.340 --> 00:45:58.320 Brian Ulf: But I think it would be a great opportunity. 417 00:46:00.150 --> 00:46:04.770 frank murphy: And you had Liz you had your quest question. 418 00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:14.370 Elizabeth Wright: Yes, i'm just curious five years from now, if everything goes your way what would you like to be doing, and where, would you like to be living. 419 00:46:22.350 --> 00:46:23.400 Elizabeth Wright: In the House you. 420 00:46:26.970 --> 00:46:41.760 Pat Raphael: Know like to be in the House, I mean see let's think i've met people at the beach and some some of the people that are homeless, because they want to be homeless and some people don't have a choice I think i'm one of those people who were actually really wants to be in house yeah so. 421 00:46:43.380 --> 00:46:44.220 Brian Ulf: Do you have income. 422 00:46:45.390 --> 00:46:45.870 Pat Raphael: Will you. 423 00:46:47.520 --> 00:46:51.360 Brian Ulf: died like benefits, so this is SDI general relief and things like that. 424 00:46:53.130 --> 00:46:56.370 Brian Ulf: yeah Okay, so you qualify for a lot of the programs. 425 00:46:56.670 --> 00:46:57.840 Brian Ulf: Because even the permanent support. 426 00:46:57.870 --> 00:46:59.400 Brian Ulf: Even the permanent supportive housing. 427 00:46:59.640 --> 00:47:01.440 Brian Ulf: requires you to pay a portion of that money. 428 00:47:01.890 --> 00:47:04.230 frank murphy: Brian Brian let's. 429 00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:08.310 frank murphy: stay with losers questioner. 430 00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:13.470 Elizabeth Wright: yeah What would you like to be doing five years from now. 431 00:47:14.130 --> 00:47:25.440 Pat Raphael: I would actually help other people or people who are homeless, I wanted to like be in my community that I grew up in and help fix the problem instead of just like I don't just need help, I want to be, you know. 432 00:47:27.060 --> 00:47:29.130 Pat Raphael: And I think these are the kind of people that make. 433 00:47:29.910 --> 00:47:40.080 Pat Raphael: Excellent future caseworkers having been in the situation right, and I think they would have some of the details that what people are going through. 434 00:47:40.650 --> 00:47:54.060 Pat Raphael: And maybe they couldn't convince the organization to change, but like I i'm really sincerely seeing if there's more of these folks in these organizations, all the way up the chain. 435 00:47:55.140 --> 00:48:06.930 Pat Raphael: The process on the ground, would look different I think it's because people are a little too far removed from what's happening on the ground, then they set in motion a process that's not really functional for people on the ground. 436 00:48:08.670 --> 00:48:09.210 frank murphy: Okay. 437 00:48:10.860 --> 00:48:14.280 frank murphy: vicki you had you had you had question. 438 00:48:14.370 --> 00:48:33.780 vicki halliday: yeah I got a couple of questions Kim i'm going back to something you said early on, about the the housing situation you're in which was a share care situation that one and you said, the rules just didn't work, I mean, do you think that. 439 00:48:35.220 --> 00:48:41.940 vicki halliday: You know we all live with rules, I mean you know in my apartment building their rooms um. 440 00:48:43.650 --> 00:48:48.210 vicki halliday: How would you change that what What would the rules, what should the rules be. 441 00:48:49.020 --> 00:48:56.490 Pat Raphael: I mean, I think, rules were okay it's just just a guy who was in there, he was like okay he's like if you're trying to cut you don't want anybody standing up. 442 00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:09.360 Pat Raphael: I mean it's crowded time everybody's giving each other, space and he, like literally will come in there and just stand over here, he tells you that you don't have any 30 his his his authority over you and all this and, like he's just taking advantage of his job i'm just saying the way. 443 00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:10.500 vicki halliday: Through okay that. 444 00:49:10.950 --> 00:49:21.060 Pat Raphael: wasn't really the rules that were problem, it was more of the way that he was trying to always be there to just like he thinks you're going to drop something you know it's like i'm not gonna drop anything on the phone if I open up like. 445 00:49:22.410 --> 00:49:28.260 Pat Raphael: You know, but he just expects you to not know how to have her own training and that's disrespectful or less that's not what is it. 446 00:49:29.070 --> 00:49:39.720 Pat Raphael: that's I don't know the word for it but it's like you can't just assume that everybody doesn't know how to have you know, like we didn't grow up with home training and all these things already you know it's like we don't need anybody to jump into engine yeah. 447 00:49:41.160 --> 00:49:52.980 Pat Raphael: sounds good to me yeah there it goes and so it's you know it's like consultants me like to think that I don't know how to cook and clean and and do normal stuff you know after I take a shower he's going to the shower look around, to see if anything is wrong in there and i'm like dude. 448 00:49:54.300 --> 00:50:03.240 Pat Raphael: morning he doesn't even say good morning he's like look at you know looking for a problem, like well I can't live like this, like you, don't seem to make to bring me down every day it's like. 449 00:50:03.750 --> 00:50:10.470 Pat Raphael: A new film you came to say good morning or higher when you see me you're just trying to be you know the security guard or something like. 450 00:50:11.100 --> 00:50:13.740 vicki halliday: It was really the one guy rather than the whole. 451 00:50:13.740 --> 00:50:19.320 Pat Raphael: Situation situation it no, no, the owner, the owner of the building the lady. 452 00:50:20.730 --> 00:50:26.760 Pat Raphael: She has a grandson and he came to my house and told me that i'm nothing i'm there for no reason he was telling me. 453 00:50:27.270 --> 00:50:33.510 Pat Raphael: That i'm supposed to leave because I just I lock my door to the room, when I feel it smells here we go to sleep. 454 00:50:33.990 --> 00:50:42.960 Pat Raphael: You know, he came over the House and say here, there were supposed to have two doors locked in this House at any time and other stuff and i'm like Okay, and I locked the door, and I was like I didn't know that you know it wasn't a rule saying that. 455 00:50:44.370 --> 00:50:45.540 Pat Raphael: You can lock your for your room. 456 00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:53.040 Pat Raphael: So I would like to do, and he starts telling me all this stuff and telling me how he's up here and I don't know nothing about him and he's he's just keep telling me how down. 457 00:50:53.430 --> 00:50:58.470 Pat Raphael: On this lower level than him and he's like and i'm like Why do I have to hear this and i'm sitting there and he's like just don't say nothing just. 458 00:50:59.190 --> 00:51:06.210 Pat Raphael: keep saying stuff to me ask me something, and it was just like he was playing with me just to see how much you can make me jump and I was like dude i'm not trying. 459 00:51:07.530 --> 00:51:15.090 Pat Raphael: To me i've kids like your age of stuff you don't even think you're talking to me like like I don't know if you're like i'm not a challenging because my situation, I mean like. 460 00:51:15.570 --> 00:51:24.840 Pat Raphael: let's see you grow up raise children have, I have a wife and she dies, and then you're just out of nowhere, you know your whole life just changes your I mean let's see that happening you guys. 461 00:51:25.620 --> 00:51:36.960 Pat Raphael: Like you don't have any kids you look in and what you put in this position, you know to work for in the training the people that you say are beneath you because you feel like you're you know I guess you're filling the riskier because you're like that house. 462 00:51:39.420 --> 00:51:39.780 vicki halliday: Thank you. 463 00:51:41.790 --> 00:51:46.020 vicki halliday: My one last question, and I mean we. 464 00:51:47.130 --> 00:52:03.000 vicki halliday: were in Venice, so we obviously want to be here I mean, would you accept housing outside of Venice if somebody offered you housing, would you want that, as a left to get back to work and do everything and then be able to maybe move to Venice later. 465 00:52:04.350 --> 00:52:06.120 vicki halliday: Are you going to hold out for Venice. 466 00:52:07.260 --> 00:52:18.930 Pat Raphael: I mean that would be great to find a place anywhere that's not I mean Come on, you know that we have certain areas that are like like if I go like look for places outside of Venice and a lot of work, not even healthy for you, you know to breathe. 467 00:52:20.100 --> 00:52:20.790 Pat Raphael: Environmentally. 468 00:52:23.430 --> 00:52:23.790 vicki halliday: got. 469 00:52:24.660 --> 00:52:31.110 Pat Raphael: Cancer in 10 years or 20 years from just living there, you know it's like Chem trails and you know la area and others don't want to say. 470 00:52:31.380 --> 00:52:35.880 vicki halliday: i've looked around, and now I get it, I think the reason i'm asking is because Venice is so. 471 00:52:35.910 --> 00:52:53.400 vicki halliday: Urban and condensed and there's not that much space, you know for more housing to be built of you know, unless we convert a part of buildings that already exist and stuff so and I, a lot of people do say, well, I want, except housing unless it's in Venice. 472 00:52:54.480 --> 00:53:01.200 Pat Raphael: I thought, like there for a while, then I got I was so tired to be out in the street, that I learned except it's just it depends on where though you know. 473 00:53:02.370 --> 00:53:02.970 vicki halliday: I gotcha. 474 00:53:03.090 --> 00:53:03.540 Pat Raphael: Well, thank you. 475 00:53:05.100 --> 00:53:09.840 frank murphy: Thanks anybody else have a question Stan run running. 476 00:53:09.990 --> 00:53:10.860 Ansar Muhammad: tell you I just want to. 477 00:53:10.980 --> 00:53:11.250 Thank. 478 00:53:12.780 --> 00:53:26.760 Ansar Muhammad: I want to thank him for coming on is very informative man, just so whatever we can do to help you and support you just let us know and we'll do all that we can put this was very informative, to say the least, thank you for coming on. 479 00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:31.500 Pat Raphael: alright. 480 00:53:40.710 --> 00:53:41.340 Brian Ulf: what's next. 481 00:53:42.780 --> 00:53:43.740 Brian Ulf: Public comment on that. 482 00:53:44.250 --> 00:53:46.770 frank murphy: Real public comment on the on the. 483 00:53:48.090 --> 00:53:50.310 frank murphy: On the round table that we just had. 484 00:53:51.450 --> 00:53:54.630 frank murphy: anybody else wants it looks like Clark wants to speak to. 485 00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:59.040 vicki halliday: Lisa okay Clark you're at keep it to a minute, please. 486 00:54:03.330 --> 00:54:03.870 Brian Ulf: unmute. 487 00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:05.100 vicki halliday: unmute Clark. 488 00:54:07.350 --> 00:54:10.680 Clark Brown: I did not mean to raise my hand, I just have a problem with this machine. 489 00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:11.790 Okay. 490 00:54:13.110 --> 00:54:16.290 vicki halliday: i'll meet you Lisa go ahead, please. 491 00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:24.810 Lisa Redmond: hey Kim i'm even though Brian bolland to me, without asking I would be happy to advocate for you. 492 00:54:25.710 --> 00:54:34.350 Lisa Redmond: I recently got a few people into housing, so I actually have some openings of you know favorite advocate see positions right now. 493 00:54:35.340 --> 00:54:54.810 Lisa Redmond: and sadly it's knowledge that I wish I didn't have, but I do know all the loops and the people, and I am tireless and would love to help you I really appreciate you speaking openly and frankly and you bring up an issue I bring up all the time that there are people that. 494 00:54:56.700 --> 00:55:03.810 Lisa Redmond: are eligible for housing and we overlook them because other people like you said you know the squeaky wheel gets. 495 00:55:04.590 --> 00:55:23.280 Lisa Redmond: The most attention and that's not also always right and it goes against the whole CES system which is meant for people like you, who have been there um so anyway it pets still doesn't have my number i'll get in touch with pat tomorrow and i'll hook up with you in the next few days. 496 00:55:23.910 --> 00:55:25.470 Lisa Redmond: and information to. 497 00:55:26.700 --> 00:55:27.270 Pat Raphael: So it's great. 498 00:55:28.680 --> 00:55:30.810 Lisa Redmond: I look forward to meeting you it's a. 499 00:55:31.890 --> 00:55:32.400 Pat Raphael: Good Thank you. 500 00:55:38.940 --> 00:55:40.980 Brian Ulf: So that's a positive thing that came from this. 501 00:55:41.790 --> 00:55:42.330 yeah. 502 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:49.050 Ansar Muhammad: Thank you, man, we need more, we should have these type of individuals coming on every month. 503 00:55:50.310 --> 00:55:52.890 Ansar Muhammad: Thank you, Pat for that right there man, I really appreciate it. 504 00:55:53.460 --> 00:55:54.990 Elizabeth Wright: Thank you, Kim Thank you pat. 505 00:55:56.100 --> 00:56:07.410 Pat Raphael: yeah Thank you guys for taking the time because I always believe humanizing folks letting everybody see average ordinary people that's what it was with uh with. 506 00:56:08.610 --> 00:56:14.190 Pat Raphael: Marine and rick rick with Eric right and then now with candies and. 507 00:56:14.190 --> 00:56:16.650 Pat Raphael: Yes, average folks living their lives. 508 00:56:17.190 --> 00:56:17.580 yep. 509 00:56:21.540 --> 00:56:22.950 frank murphy: we're on a new business. 510 00:56:24.690 --> 00:56:27.510 frank murphy: We have one motion on for tonight. 511 00:56:28.740 --> 00:56:29.520 frank murphy: um. 512 00:56:31.890 --> 00:56:39.330 frank murphy: This is was presented by Nick and ton of cello and we. 513 00:56:43.770 --> 00:56:46.500 frank murphy: Just somebody wants to read read this. 514 00:56:46.590 --> 00:56:49.650 vicki halliday: And rank Nick is here, maybe Nick should read it, Nick. 515 00:56:52.530 --> 00:56:54.000 vicki halliday: unmute and read your motion. 516 00:56:59.970 --> 00:57:00.360 vicki halliday: Yet. 517 00:57:08.100 --> 00:57:08.610 Nick Antonicello: Hello. 518 00:57:16.470 --> 00:57:17.970 Nick Antonicello: I don't have the motion. 519 00:57:20.160 --> 00:57:23.670 Nick Antonicello: Can you post, the motion and i'll read it, or how would you rather do it. 520 00:57:24.750 --> 00:57:26.340 frank murphy: I can, I can read it. 521 00:57:27.570 --> 00:57:28.290 Nick Antonicello: yeah I mean. 522 00:57:29.610 --> 00:57:31.140 Nick Antonicello: i'm not on the committee so. 523 00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:36.660 vicki halliday: Well it's your motion frank go ahead and read it, but read read the whole thing. 524 00:57:37.200 --> 00:57:38.610 vicki halliday: Now, therefore. 525 00:57:39.570 --> 00:57:52.230 frank murphy: No, no um whereas centennial park is a median public space located on South Venice boulevard due East of the Venice free public library, and whereas. 526 00:57:52.620 --> 00:58:00.840 frank murphy: centennial park by city ordinance should be exempt from overnight parking and whereas this location has been overrun. 527 00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:12.990 frank murphy: With hundred something kampmann structures and stationary vehicles that have taken this neighborhood by hostage and whereas open drug use and criminal activity is rampant. 528 00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:31.350 frank murphy: With fights daily among the transients that occupy this public space, and whereas tenants and Homeowners alike are becoming terrorized by the lack of public safety protections from any city or county law enforcement and whereas the encampments have become enabled. 529 00:58:33.240 --> 00:58:40.080 frank murphy: and encouraged by numerous not for profit homeless bureaucracy bureaucrats, as well as CD 11. 530 00:58:40.590 --> 00:58:52.740 frank murphy: And, whereas the current municipal ordinance are being ordinances are being ignored, with no police presence, despite the fact now hundreds of individuals occupy these. 531 00:58:53.130 --> 00:59:04.530 frank murphy: The space on a daily basis, and whereas this neighborhood Council has received at least three prior motions that have been ignored never discussed as the problem at. 532 00:59:05.190 --> 00:59:24.930 frank murphy: centennial park is increasing by the day and becoming all the more dangerous and whereas the inaction of this neighborhood Council is disturbing, despite the impact on this Community no difference if no different if not worse than what occurred on ocean front wall. 533 00:59:26.520 --> 00:59:39.030 frank murphy: Therefore, be it resolved that the Venice neighborhood Council go on the record and support the immediate sweep and displacement of all individuals who are illegally camp at centennial car. 534 00:59:39.690 --> 00:59:48.240 frank murphy: And that immediate action be taken to dissolve this violation of public space by transients who are for the most part. 535 00:59:48.660 --> 00:59:59.700 frank murphy: If not all inhabitants are not are not residence or have never been previously domiciled in the neighborhood of Venice and then a letter be sent. 536 01:00:00.150 --> 01:00:16.080 frank murphy: To mayor Eric garcetti CD 11 an lapd chief more seeking relief from his department to put together an evacuation plan that disperses all illegal occupants of this public space within 60 days. 537 01:00:18.810 --> 01:00:21.630 vicki halliday: Okay, public public comment. 538 01:00:22.170 --> 01:00:26.070 frank murphy: No gotta bring it up don't have to bring it up and get a second. 539 01:00:27.150 --> 01:00:28.890 vicki halliday: yeah um yeah. 540 01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:30.840 Elizabeth Wright: that's some snakes emotional. 541 01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:32.130 vicki halliday: i'll make the motion. 542 01:00:32.550 --> 01:00:33.180 Elizabeth Wright: i'll second. 543 01:00:33.630 --> 01:00:34.380 vicki halliday: Thank you, is. 544 01:00:36.720 --> 01:00:38.400 vicki halliday: Now for public comment correct. 545 01:00:39.210 --> 01:00:43.260 vicki halliday: Yes, Okay, I see one hand up Sean o'brian. 546 01:00:44.670 --> 01:00:45.870 vicki halliday: hold on here. 547 01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:48.900 vicki halliday: There you go Sean. 548 01:00:50.640 --> 01:00:57.720 Sean obrien: yeah thanks i'm gonna be real quick support the motion, not a big fan of the wording, I think, maybe. 549 01:00:58.740 --> 01:01:00.360 Sean obrien: It could be edited hopefully you guys. 550 01:01:02.490 --> 01:01:06.780 Sean obrien: um, it is a little negative, it is a little. 551 01:01:08.970 --> 01:01:14.910 Sean obrien: A little rough of us just one thing I want to like add to this and then i'll then i'll be done. 552 01:01:15.390 --> 01:01:35.760 Sean obrien: Is you got to remember all the other Council districts are pretty much enforcing I think it's what 4103 where they can i'm clear these encampments and of course Mike bond and refuses to do so, so I think a lot of the people that showed up at centennial park are from other districts. 553 01:01:36.900 --> 01:01:42.630 Sean obrien: That may have been forced out from there and that's why we're seeing a lot of new faces, but thank you. 554 01:01:43.260 --> 01:01:44.070 vicki halliday: Thanks Sean. 555 01:01:45.570 --> 01:01:47.700 vicki halliday: Around okay Nick. 556 01:01:48.720 --> 01:01:50.130 vicki halliday: Go go ahead, thank you. 557 01:01:57.420 --> 01:01:57.840 vicki halliday: Nick. 558 01:02:05.460 --> 01:02:06.660 vicki halliday: Nick you need to unmute. 559 01:02:12.360 --> 01:02:13.230 frank murphy: Well, go to Lisa. 560 01:02:15.030 --> 01:02:17.430 vicki halliday: Okay Lisa Please go ahead, thank you. 561 01:02:19.530 --> 01:02:30.090 Lisa Redmond: yeah there's a lot of anger, the way this is written, and you know and anger really mostly stems just removing everybody and just getting rid of them. 562 01:02:30.750 --> 01:02:38.280 Lisa Redmond: And i'm angry to that people are there i'm angry that there's not enough housing for people that people are there. 563 01:02:38.940 --> 01:02:46.260 Lisa Redmond: i'm angry that people are sleeping there and i'm angry that people like Sean o'brien and many other people Venice think that these people are all from elsewhere. 564 01:02:46.770 --> 01:02:59.370 Lisa Redmond: i'm angry at the language in the motion and most of these people are already dentist residents and even if they just came from Oregon yesterday, if they're sleeping here tonight, they are then a stakeholder and. 565 01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:07.920 Lisa Redmond: there's reasons that this can come in didn't exist will just a few months ago till it started up really going crazy in January. 566 01:03:08.460 --> 01:03:14.010 Lisa Redmond: let's go to third speak we're hardly anybody lives now anymore, because there's somebody there pushing people off third street. 567 01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:27.240 Lisa Redmond: let's talk about how business and electric was mostly clear let's talk about a lot of other campaigns within Venice that people hire private security to remove people that doesn't solve housing issues and homelessness it just. 568 01:03:28.020 --> 01:03:28.860 Lisa Redmond: somewhere else. 569 01:03:29.250 --> 01:03:32.010 Lisa Redmond: Thank you, I vote no for this and if we're. 570 01:03:35.820 --> 01:03:39.540 vicki halliday: Okay, Nick we're back to you please unmute. 571 01:03:40.050 --> 01:03:44.310 Nick Antonicello: Your zone systems not working, because this is the third time I couldn't hear anything. 572 01:03:45.540 --> 01:03:53.010 Nick Antonicello: Everything in this motions factually correct if you come here from Oregon two days ago, does it make you a Venice resident. 573 01:03:53.730 --> 01:04:06.090 Nick Antonicello: it's just it's just this rhetoric that just perpetuates lies and Miss truth and paulson's you have a major condition in the middle of Venice this neighborhood Councils done nothing. 574 01:04:06.660 --> 01:04:19.230 Nick Antonicello: Okay, and you're enabling bad behavior and criminal behavior by not doing anything the languages course because the problem is course and this neighborhood Councils did absolutely nothing. 575 01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:31.770 Nick Antonicello: and continues to do nothing it's time to clean up centennial park it's time to be heard bombing and in the city know that we're not going to stand for this anymore. 576 01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:51.480 Nick Antonicello: You have to take action if you don't take action and the message to the Community is figure support and enable what's going on there i've seen it for myself open drug abuse prostitution it's rampant it's going on, day in and day out, and you deny it you're denying reality. 577 01:04:52.770 --> 01:04:53.760 vicki halliday: Nick that's your time. 578 01:04:54.330 --> 01:04:57.000 vicki halliday: don't please don't leave because I think. 579 01:04:58.110 --> 01:05:05.280 vicki halliday: will want to talk more um okay that's that seems to be everyone that had a comment. 580 01:05:07.140 --> 01:05:09.090 vicki halliday: So now we have board comment correct. 581 01:05:09.750 --> 01:05:10.230 Correct. 582 01:05:12.030 --> 01:05:14.220 Pat Raphael: shadow Brian got to speak to get to speak. 583 01:05:14.370 --> 01:05:14.880 vicki halliday: yeah he got. 584 01:05:15.540 --> 01:05:16.740 frank murphy: yeah you got to speak. 585 01:05:18.810 --> 01:05:19.320 frank murphy: well. 586 01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:37.170 vicki halliday: Things right off and it's not anything that I haven't said to Nick I support the idea of cleaning out centennial park it's high time i've been told there's no housing to put people in and all sorts of stuff. 587 01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:49.860 vicki halliday: That aside, it's time for it to be cleared out, however, i'm this motion their issues one are there, hundreds of people there who's done account I. 588 01:05:51.330 --> 01:05:54.630 vicki halliday: You know, people will say hundreds of tense there's not. 589 01:05:56.280 --> 01:06:02.730 vicki halliday: I mean, so we can't put motions through that are that ambiguous when it comes to population. 590 01:06:03.750 --> 01:06:05.430 vicki halliday: To um. 591 01:06:06.660 --> 01:06:12.150 vicki halliday: As a board member and somebody who's worked on the homeless committee and worked on other things. 592 01:06:13.950 --> 01:06:23.250 vicki halliday: I can't vote for this, because of all of the negativity toward the board, I understand people have wanted something done we're an advisory board. 593 01:06:23.910 --> 01:06:31.410 vicki halliday: we're not the COPs were not Lhasa we're not finance office they can actually go there and pull people out of tents and put them somewhere. 594 01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:47.100 vicki halliday: So to criticize us I don't believe belongs in this motion, and all I would i'm certainly for the idea of planning centennial out but i'm not for the language in this motion, and this is nothing that I haven't said to Nick. 595 01:06:52.560 --> 01:06:54.210 Elizabeth Wright: I agree completely with vicki. 596 01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:00.630 Ansar Muhammad: i'm in agreement as well. 597 01:07:01.680 --> 01:07:03.180 Ansar Muhammad: I mean, in real time I have. 598 01:07:04.830 --> 01:07:07.140 Ansar Muhammad: Seven miles per hour right now. 599 01:07:08.340 --> 01:07:15.990 Ansar Muhammad: One of them is actually at the location and I actually text him to ask him how many actual tenses there, he said is 25. 600 01:07:17.190 --> 01:07:21.540 Ansar Muhammad: And so it's just you know I know people is frustrated. 601 01:07:23.250 --> 01:07:26.730 Ansar Muhammad: rightfully so, but when you when you walk over. 602 01:07:27.810 --> 01:07:28.560 Ansar Muhammad: And to that. 603 01:07:29.580 --> 01:07:30.960 Ansar Muhammad: End kampmann zone. 604 01:07:32.340 --> 01:07:33.660 Ansar Muhammad: There are some good people over there. 605 01:07:35.970 --> 01:07:37.710 Ansar Muhammad: You know, so when you talk about. 606 01:07:38.790 --> 01:07:43.140 Ansar Muhammad: This taken them and getting rid of them, I mean Where are you going to send them. 607 01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:52.500 Ansar Muhammad: You know, so I mean language is harsh man is the way you brought it Nick is if these people don't have. 608 01:07:53.790 --> 01:07:54.870 Ansar Muhammad: Any dignity. 609 01:07:56.190 --> 01:07:57.660 Ansar Muhammad: And we just heard from Kim. 610 01:07:59.100 --> 01:08:09.000 Ansar Muhammad: And tonight was probably the best meeting, for me, because we heard from somebody outside of Pat, that is, live experience and is currently living in that reality. 611 01:08:09.870 --> 01:08:26.820 Ansar Muhammad: And my heart man I don't know how to say it, but my heart go out to these people that got to lay down tonight, whether they own concrete or where where they enter part it's just my heart go out, so I hope we can come up with emotion, as more. 612 01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:37.830 Ansar Muhammad: You know, like friendly shifty top by just get rid of people like man so i'm only this is this harsh man that's all I wanted to say thank you for. 613 01:08:43.170 --> 01:08:43.650 frank murphy: Calling. 614 01:08:49.110 --> 01:08:50.160 C Bailey: Sorry, a new. 615 01:08:51.810 --> 01:08:52.860 C Bailey: i'm in favor. 616 01:08:54.030 --> 01:09:15.870 C Bailey: And I know it's harsh but it's it's over the top in that area, there are people who are living in fear who can't walk outside at night, who who can't leave their car they park their car blocks away versus near the area, and then they can't people in. 617 01:09:15.900 --> 01:09:17.400 frank murphy: Our library can't be used. 618 01:09:17.430 --> 01:09:33.840 C Bailey: By children anymore that should be enough on its own to support this motion a library has to close because of what's going on over there and we're acting like Oh well, you know we have to be nice to them now, we don't know anymore we're done. 619 01:09:35.160 --> 01:09:45.240 C Bailey: People are done they're pest and they're ready for some action and what are we here, for if we can't support our neighbors the people who live in that area or people to. 620 01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:52.890 C Bailey: All they want to do is go to work come home get their their their life going and. 621 01:09:53.310 --> 01:10:03.240 C Bailey: We can't even do that without coming home and saying oh something was stolen out of my house something was stolen out of my out of my car something was somebody broken here, or if they're working from home. 622 01:10:03.630 --> 01:10:12.870 C Bailey: don't leave your doors open or or even slightly ajar because somebody will come in, while you're there, that is not a way to live and they those people to. 623 01:10:14.520 --> 01:10:23.100 C Bailey: The fact that their house is is not a handicap it's it's something that they've earned because they go to work every day. 624 01:10:23.940 --> 01:10:31.500 C Bailey: And I know that i'm house people need help i'm all for helping people who need help i'm all for helping the young man that was just on. 625 01:10:31.890 --> 01:10:39.600 C Bailey: Anybody who needs help absolutely helping people who are out taking drugs hanging out all day under a pile of garbage with a needle on their arm. 626 01:10:39.870 --> 01:10:47.910 C Bailey: Then you know what they need to go to a shelter and and get off the drugs, so that they can become citizens that are contributing to the society too. 627 01:10:48.420 --> 01:10:55.710 C Bailey: And it's about time we start supporting the people who contribute to the society or helping people get to the point where they contribute to society. 628 01:10:57.300 --> 01:10:59.580 C Bailey: The reason why this is angry is because people are mad. 629 01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:01.410 C Bailey: And so, am I. 630 01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:06.240 C Bailey: i'm trying to view. 631 01:11:09.120 --> 01:11:09.840 frank murphy: Thanks Colin. 632 01:11:13.740 --> 01:11:14.160 frank murphy: well. 633 01:11:16.140 --> 01:11:17.370 frank murphy: I have a couple of points. 634 01:11:18.930 --> 01:11:19.290 vicki halliday: That. 635 01:11:21.750 --> 01:11:23.220 vicki halliday: Brian has his hand up. 636 01:11:24.540 --> 01:11:25.080 frank murphy: Oh yeah. 637 01:11:25.200 --> 01:11:25.890 Brian Ulf: Go ahead frank. 638 01:11:26.910 --> 01:11:28.230 frank murphy: yeah a couple points. 639 01:11:31.200 --> 01:11:31.890 frank murphy: One is. 640 01:11:34.830 --> 01:12:01.080 frank murphy: Just blanket point is living on the sidewalks is not the way we as a city should be doing anything, this is insane we've had 10 years more 20 years to work with this issue and it hasn't happened on the same token, you don't need a passport to go from utah to La. 641 01:12:02.430 --> 01:12:06.630 frank murphy: And to Venice, but that doesn't mean we have to be accommodating. 642 01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:16.860 frank murphy: In as brutal away, as we have been which is this is the product of the political. 643 01:12:18.180 --> 01:12:22.230 frank murphy: machine that's been going on for 2030 years. 644 01:12:23.790 --> 01:12:29.760 frank murphy: living on the sidewalk is brutal and it's and it's inhumane. 645 01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:43.890 frank murphy: I drive by that site and there's woman sitting in the curb on the on the left hand side of the street hiding behind a plant that overgrowth the street you can't see her. 646 01:12:45.390 --> 01:13:02.670 frank murphy: Now this is just fraught with huge problems that being said, this kind of angry stuff we've got to get past we have 60% 6060 something percent of all the homeless in district 11. 647 01:13:04.050 --> 01:13:05.760 frank murphy: reside in Venice. 648 01:13:06.780 --> 01:13:13.980 frank murphy: Venice represents 14% of the population and 5% of the area of CD 11. 649 01:13:15.210 --> 01:13:27.360 frank murphy: Now we got to rectify that but we don't rectify it by saying hey you go get the hell out of here, you know go someplace else because they keep stacking it back over here. 650 01:13:28.590 --> 01:13:39.990 frank murphy: You know that was you know, and so we have to, we have to approach this in a way that gets something done and this type of angry stuff which I agree with Colette. 651 01:13:41.370 --> 01:13:54.630 frank murphy: It is there, you cannot deny that it is there, it is there on both sides of the equation it's there with the homeless and it's there with that house they're all angry with this it's insane. 652 01:13:55.770 --> 01:13:58.680 frank murphy: That being said, I think that this. 653 01:13:59.700 --> 01:14:04.200 frank murphy: This motion can be passed, but we have to. 654 01:14:05.340 --> 01:14:05.880 frank murphy: edit it. 655 01:14:06.330 --> 01:14:07.170 vicki halliday: We have to amend it. 656 01:14:07.650 --> 01:14:13.740 frank murphy: We have to amend it, and it is not going to pass the way it is i'm not gonna vote for joy it is. 657 01:14:15.060 --> 01:14:16.680 frank murphy: So let's bet doesn't mean. 658 01:14:17.070 --> 01:14:19.080 frank murphy: That the point can't be well taken. 659 01:14:19.380 --> 01:14:26.820 vicki halliday: No, I agree, I agree, and you Liz will you guide us through amending this. 660 01:14:30.240 --> 01:14:31.800 vicki halliday: Talk first Brian. 661 01:14:32.220 --> 01:14:32.610 Sorry. 662 01:14:33.810 --> 01:14:34.500 Brian Ulf: You know, like. 663 01:14:35.640 --> 01:14:48.600 Brian Ulf: Like Stan i'm sympathetic and my heart goes out to the people that are that are out on the streets know whether it's about us or anywhere else, but I do believe that Venice just by what happened last month in our meeting. 664 01:14:50.040 --> 01:14:56.460 Brian Ulf: Our our Committee passed to put toilets in a sanitation station in that park. 665 01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:08.970 Brian Ulf: And the neighborhood Council unanimously voted it down almost unanimously, and so I do think, unfortunately, the attitude of our House people. 666 01:15:09.810 --> 01:15:18.030 Brian Ulf: they're angry they're pissed and, and so I understand the spirit of neck, and I was, I was shocked about that the bathroom thing last week. 667 01:15:18.420 --> 01:15:36.540 Brian Ulf: But you know that's where we are right now, and I think the anger needs to be focused not necessarily between all of us as it needs to be focused on why aren't they doing something, yet, and I think, by passing emotion and I totally agree with everybody that this needs to be done differently. 668 01:15:38.610 --> 01:15:48.570 Brian Ulf: And I think there's a couple of things we could add, I think we could get rid of all the warehouses and just function and just focus just on that, therefore, be it resolved, because I think that's all we need to do, but. 669 01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:57.570 Brian Ulf: I understand the angry and people are pissed just by telling them that they didn't want to a bathroom and our reasons for putting bathrooms there. 670 01:15:58.020 --> 01:16:05.970 Brian Ulf: was very much collapse, for the reason of the library, you know when I when I walked into the library and went to the bathroom and. 671 01:16:06.930 --> 01:16:20.610 Brian Ulf: There are people taking baths in the sink, and they have no other choices to be there and then they go in and a lot of people are under the influence when they go in some of them aren't whatever, but the here breaking the law in what's posted on the library door. 672 01:16:21.900 --> 01:16:37.170 Brian Ulf: And I think that needs to get incorporated and it says in the property this video is posted there, it says no trespassing individuals who interfere with employees in the city facility or obstruct or intimidate patrons of this facility or. 673 01:16:38.220 --> 01:16:43.140 Brian Ulf: will be requested to lake and you know they wouldn't be going in there. 674 01:16:44.400 --> 01:16:53.220 Brian Ulf: If it wasn't to use the facilities, but we don't have bathrooms up there, and so, as long as we're going to accept as a city in Venice that it's okay to say it's okay to. 675 01:16:53.700 --> 01:17:05.280 Brian Ulf: Be what's happening to our library i'm just telling you what if there was an encampment in front of the palisades library or an encampment in front of Brentwood or an encampment in front of West chester's library or anybody else's library. 676 01:17:06.090 --> 01:17:15.450 Brian Ulf: This would have been dealt with a long time ago, and there would be toilets and facilities out there and again that we're not going to be able to just to go in there and sweep. 677 01:17:16.830 --> 01:17:29.820 Brian Ulf: Because we have to wait right now for Mike to authorize Lhasa or path again with whatever incentive to do the encampments to home program because that's what they're going to come back with if they come back with that. 678 01:17:30.210 --> 01:17:35.700 Brian Ulf: at all, and so we're not kicking them out because they are going to have to be offered a place to go. 679 01:17:36.120 --> 01:17:42.120 Brian Ulf: And you know I think the West Chester the thing I don't know where it is but there's 179 hotel rooms that have just come online. 680 01:17:42.510 --> 01:17:51.270 Brian Ulf: they're 50 only 50 out of 154 people in the bridge housing, it might have changed since last month there share housing, there are places for all these people to go. 681 01:17:52.050 --> 01:18:09.480 Brian Ulf: We just need the agencies in there to start to peel the to get it done, but I understand the anger completely and and I would also like to add to that motion that we at the rouse parking lots and and different places that they have those portable camera towers. 682 01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:16.530 Brian Ulf: That go up and I don't want to criminalize the homeless, but I want to criminalize the criminals that are preying on the homeless. 683 01:18:17.400 --> 01:18:23.790 Brian Ulf: All right, i'm sympathetic for the people that want to get a hand up and do the right thing and take their lives back. 684 01:18:24.150 --> 01:18:32.670 Brian Ulf: And if they're on prayed, we need to catch them because that's what changed the boardwalk when the cameras were on the boardwalk you witness the crime and horrific stuff that happens. 685 01:18:33.150 --> 01:18:42.090 Brian Ulf: there's no cameras in that in that park and so ralph's puts these towers there in order to be a deterrent for people from robbing people in the parking lot. 686 01:18:42.960 --> 01:18:50.760 Brian Ulf: lapd has the towers, the Sheriff department has these portable towers and i've got the name and phone number of the one in rouse that you can rent. 687 01:18:51.630 --> 01:18:57.810 Brian Ulf: And let's put the towers out there as a deterrent, which will help the crime situation and, if not it's. 688 01:18:58.230 --> 01:19:07.830 Brian Ulf: it's going to be on national news, the news cameras are common and that seems to be the only way that we get things done in Venice is when either the Sheriff comes or when the news cameras come. 689 01:19:08.460 --> 01:19:17.310 Brian Ulf: And so let's start documenting what's actually happening, instead of third party hearsay and let's take action and get this thing done and let's protect our library. 690 01:19:18.870 --> 01:19:25.380 Brian Ulf: So I would add the tower and the library provision to the whereas paragraph and get rid of the rest. 691 01:19:27.660 --> 01:19:30.270 Elizabeth Wright: I don't think we can do that because of the brown act. 692 01:19:32.340 --> 01:19:32.640 hmm. 693 01:19:35.040 --> 01:19:38.640 vicki halliday: i'm gonna have to excuse myself for five minutes frank i'll be right back. 694 01:19:39.060 --> 01:19:39.480 Okay. 695 01:19:41.130 --> 01:19:42.570 Elizabeth Wright: fill you in on the excitement. 696 01:19:43.590 --> 01:19:47.730 frank murphy: What was the what's the brown and i'm not I don't understand. 697 01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:51.150 Elizabeth Wright: Well, when you when you start saying, and we want. 698 01:19:52.320 --> 01:19:53.220 Elizabeth Wright: To video. 699 01:19:54.420 --> 01:20:01.350 Elizabeth Wright: The place that that isn't even close to anything that isn't the actual motion in the agenda. 700 01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:04.590 Brian Ulf: we're adding we're making a motion amendment. 701 01:20:06.360 --> 01:20:08.910 Elizabeth Wright: Okay, my point is if you're going to. 702 01:20:12.900 --> 01:20:22.500 Elizabeth Wright: include a consideration that says and we're going to video that the area mm hmm I mean that is so broad that. 703 01:20:23.280 --> 01:20:24.960 Elizabeth Wright: That must not be on the agenda. 704 01:20:25.410 --> 01:20:37.590 Brian Ulf: It is a is a function that happens on a daily basis in all parts of our city and that's what the police use that's what rouse private businesses use that's what they do all over the boardwalk it's not. 705 01:20:37.710 --> 01:20:38.700 Elizabeth Wright: infringing that. 706 01:20:38.910 --> 01:20:49.980 Elizabeth Wright: yeah i'm not questioning that but I think there are a lot of people who would take exception to where cameras are placed, and I think they should have a voice. 707 01:20:51.540 --> 01:21:00.990 Brian Ulf: will have public comment after this if we rewrite this motion and everybody can have a right to say that you know cameras go all the way down the boardwalk you know. 708 01:21:01.230 --> 01:21:09.840 frank murphy: I think I think that the the intent of this is to deal with the issue of getting of of. 709 01:21:13.200 --> 01:21:22.470 frank murphy: displacing the people that are in that are on that encampment so the security may or may not be an issue. 710 01:21:24.390 --> 01:21:27.210 frank murphy: Because this, this is a different issue. 711 01:21:27.960 --> 01:21:28.830 frank murphy: yeah we. 712 01:21:29.490 --> 01:21:32.790 Elizabeth Wright: ran, I would like to see that next month definitely. 713 01:21:33.240 --> 01:21:42.600 Brian Ulf: Okay, well, I talked to Jim or, as he says, if you guys bring emotion, saying that the city that neighborhood Council has the money and the neighborhood Council would fund those. 714 01:21:43.050 --> 01:21:57.600 Brian Ulf: Those towers as a deterrent as to have evidence that you know by having those towers there and filming you now have evidence of people being preyed on and crimes being committed Okay, those are the people that need to be felt. 715 01:21:58.230 --> 01:22:03.750 frank murphy: i'm taking this i'm taking this a little bit more literally Brian. 716 01:22:05.610 --> 01:22:09.240 frank murphy: That isn't an issue raised by this so that's a separate issue but. 717 01:22:09.300 --> 01:22:11.430 Brian Ulf: it's a modification emotion it's. 718 01:22:11.670 --> 01:22:15.690 Brian Ulf: it's we're modifying motions here that's our job if we want to add. 719 01:22:15.930 --> 01:22:20.400 frank murphy: insert job but it doesn't turn intent to the motion that we ought to be at here too, but. 720 01:22:20.400 --> 01:22:25.950 frank murphy: that's you know i'm not gonna let you know I mean I can. 721 01:22:26.610 --> 01:22:26.970 We can. 722 01:22:28.170 --> 01:22:30.720 Brian Ulf: You do what you want, with this motion and i'll make a motion to add the. 723 01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:31.620 Brian Ulf: video cameras. 724 01:22:33.450 --> 01:22:36.150 Brian Ulf: it's just stupid it's stupid to wait another month. 725 01:22:36.330 --> 01:22:37.560 Brian Ulf: it's just you're just adding. 726 01:22:39.690 --> 01:22:41.100 frank murphy: just saying i'm just. 727 01:22:41.730 --> 01:22:42.660 frank murphy: Go ahead i'm sorry. 728 01:22:43.560 --> 01:22:45.030 Elizabeth Wright: That is what you have to do. 729 01:22:45.870 --> 01:22:48.810 Brian Ulf: I don't think I do but that's I don't want to fight you guys. 730 01:22:49.950 --> 01:22:54.060 Brian Ulf: i'm making a modification suggestion to language that is. 731 01:22:54.990 --> 01:23:03.330 Brian Ulf: Not language that anybody is going to be able to pass through it's going to go to the board of the neighboring Castle, and they get a send it to someplace that won't allow that language. 732 01:23:03.780 --> 01:23:12.630 Brian Ulf: So, but they would allow remedies that meet next requirement that it's the end game, right now, what are we trying to do, as a committee. 733 01:23:13.020 --> 01:23:27.090 Brian Ulf: To ask the neighborhood Council to do and what's our end game our end game is we'd like to take public spaces back we'd like to protect the library we'd like crime, not to happen there and we want to get these people into housing okay that's what this motion is. 734 01:23:28.290 --> 01:23:28.860 Brian Ulf: And so. 735 01:23:29.130 --> 01:23:32.460 Brian Ulf: If we're the spirit of that motion and I don't. 736 01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:33.060 Brian Ulf: Care what. 737 01:23:33.450 --> 01:23:36.090 Brian Ulf: You know that's that's what we're trying to achieve here. 738 01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:39.180 Brian Ulf: All right, and why kick the can another month. 739 01:23:40.260 --> 01:23:41.250 Brian Ulf: Like we just you know. 740 01:23:41.370 --> 01:23:42.240 Brian Ulf: The toilet so. 741 01:23:42.360 --> 01:23:46.620 Brian Ulf: everybody's in the library pen and shifting and in the neighborhoods. 742 01:23:47.700 --> 01:23:49.530 Brian Ulf: And, and I know if we if we don't. 743 01:23:49.530 --> 01:23:55.530 Brian Ulf: pass this then it's going to stay there till the end of the term until we get the next City Council person. 744 01:23:56.460 --> 01:23:57.930 frank murphy: Okay um. 745 01:24:00.780 --> 01:24:04.230 Pat Raphael: yeah so just scanning through this here. 746 01:24:06.990 --> 01:24:20.370 Pat Raphael: Over on i'm seeing held hostage ramping hundreds right things that i'm kind of glad this motion is written, the way it is right, because I think sometimes. 747 01:24:21.120 --> 01:24:33.360 Pat Raphael: Somebody less angry than Mr Anthony nichelle produces something with the same intent right, and then we endorse it and send it on. 748 01:24:34.080 --> 01:24:45.330 Pat Raphael: Because it's written nicer right i'm glad that this is written so angry and so in so exaggerated right because I feel like that's what's driving a lot of this. 749 01:24:46.380 --> 01:24:48.750 Pat Raphael: up this narrative is this narrative that. 750 01:24:50.580 --> 01:24:53.700 Pat Raphael: That ignoring that. 751 01:24:54.750 --> 01:25:03.480 Pat Raphael: If we look on third there was a whole bunch of people there they're not there, if we look on the boardwalk there was a whole bunch of people there they're not there right uh. 752 01:25:04.020 --> 01:25:08.490 Pat Raphael: These people don't move inter dimensionally then go somewhere to become invisible. 753 01:25:09.330 --> 01:25:15.870 Pat Raphael: They just end up somewhere else right and, of course, the reason their own third so long, we can just think of third. 754 01:25:16.320 --> 01:25:29.220 Pat Raphael: we've got public stores there you've got the back of Google right there were no houses, there were some restaurants on sunset that had to do with it right, where it was just set up where this was where we could. 755 01:25:29.910 --> 01:25:40.260 Pat Raphael: As a community kind of push everybody right and then, once it became the only place where where where people could kind of stay. 756 01:25:42.390 --> 01:25:48.690 Pat Raphael: Without being harassed, then that became a Community right, and then it became political to. 757 01:25:49.230 --> 01:25:56.610 Pat Raphael: tear down that community to say hey look what we're doing about homeless right, but in reality we're not really doing anything we're just pushing people. 758 01:25:56.880 --> 01:26:06.240 Pat Raphael: Until it gets somewhere where people can be more outwardly asked off to them right, so I think it's an interesting genius move to end up putting him at the library. 759 01:26:06.600 --> 01:26:19.590 Pat Raphael: And, and at the library everybody can say what somebody think of the children right let's now be hostile in after we become hostile we're now leaving nowhere else for people to go right so i'm i'm wondering. 760 01:26:20.970 --> 01:26:30.720 Pat Raphael: is better language, the solution, because the Internet is still not about let's figure out how to how to increase housing, how to. 761 01:26:32.490 --> 01:26:42.750 Pat Raphael: Remove as many of the folks that shouldn't be honest as possible right the conversation doesn't seem to be centered around that it's more centered around now that we have. 762 01:26:43.170 --> 01:26:54.720 Pat Raphael: The situation here where it is let's use this current here to be harsh in a way, where where everybody will feel we're justified in a harshness. 763 01:26:56.640 --> 01:26:57.360 People are paying us. 764 01:26:59.130 --> 01:27:00.120 frank murphy: ocean yeah. 765 01:27:07.140 --> 01:27:16.080 C Bailey: In terms of anger and harshness it comes from the abuse that the residents have been getting. 766 01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:32.130 C Bailey: If they were surrounded by law abiding people who are just living on the street and just needed help we'd have a very different reaction there's so so many people in that and Kevin are armed the fire department won't even go over there without police protection. 767 01:27:33.420 --> 01:27:37.200 C Bailey: Why are they armed if they're just hanging out waiting for a place to live. 768 01:27:39.150 --> 01:27:50.970 C Bailey: Where somebody's car is getting broken into around in the neighborhood why people's houses getting broken, how can the the crime rate is changed so much around that area, since that encampment happened that's why people are angry. 769 01:27:53.100 --> 01:28:02.280 C Bailey: And when people get angry they're going to start looking out for themselves, of course, i'm upset over the of the of the property losses. 770 01:28:04.830 --> 01:28:14.580 C Bailey: Not to mention the our own my own personal property losses due to that, but for to hear it happening again and again and again, some of it to the same people in the same neighborhood. 771 01:28:16.530 --> 01:28:28.740 C Bailey: In a library, who cannot be used, yes, by children low income poor children who don't have access to those types of resources don't have access to it. 772 01:28:29.640 --> 01:28:35.280 C Bailey: at all, you cannot take your kid to the library in Venice let's just be clear that this. 773 01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:46.650 C Bailey: And this wouldn't be happening in the palisades or Brentwood they there would be no encountered in those neighborhoods in front of their libraries period, it would be gone it wouldn't be there, it wouldn't start up there. 774 01:28:47.700 --> 01:28:50.010 C Bailey: They wouldn't need bathrooms because there wouldn't be an accountant. 775 01:28:52.860 --> 01:28:59.190 C Bailey: Venice is constantly the dumping ground and it's it's and I think this is where part of the anger is coming from work we're we're. 776 01:29:00.150 --> 01:29:18.810 C Bailey: we've had enough again providers and the service providers What are they doing but provide but taking triple H and w H, and I don't know what he money and doing absolutely nothing they spent a billion dollars on homelessness with no accountability or any sort of. 777 01:29:20.190 --> 01:29:33.000 C Bailey: where's the accountability and that's a whole nother meeting, by the way, yes, I agree with with Brian let's let's get something out of this if you guys want to make it softer that's fine with me too much, but we got to do something we can't wait another month. 778 01:29:35.790 --> 01:29:36.540 C Bailey: Special Meeting. 779 01:29:38.490 --> 01:29:40.980 Ansar Muhammad: yeah I mean this this is touchy but. 780 01:29:43.140 --> 01:29:44.910 Ansar Muhammad: It brings me back to. 781 01:29:47.220 --> 01:29:50.670 Ansar Muhammad: A time and my neighborhood of Venice, which is oakland. 782 01:29:51.780 --> 01:29:54.120 Ansar Muhammad: Where conversations was taken place. 783 01:29:55.440 --> 01:29:58.530 Ansar Muhammad: Because we was on the block doing what we was doing. 784 01:29:59.940 --> 01:30:03.120 Ansar Muhammad: And ultimately, what came out of that was a gang injunction. 785 01:30:04.140 --> 01:30:25.530 Ansar Muhammad: That not only displace hundreds of African American and Latino male figures, but right during that time again war broke out and several people was murdered in and gentrification became the norm now when I drive to my neighborhood. 786 01:30:26.640 --> 01:30:27.930 Ansar Muhammad: No one looks like me. 787 01:30:29.220 --> 01:30:37.650 Ansar Muhammad: Very few as indigenous and everybody is now saying they own a part of Venice molly position on this matter. 788 01:30:38.400 --> 01:30:45.210 Ansar Muhammad: And I will stay on this position until the day that I leave this earth my voice is for every person. 789 01:30:46.170 --> 01:30:54.270 Ansar Muhammad: That has house that is i'm sorry every person that is on house right now in front of the library in front of the library. 790 01:30:54.870 --> 01:31:04.530 Ansar Muhammad: I just want to be very clear my voices for them my voice is not for those who got $2 million houses my voice is not for those who is doing a lot of development. 791 01:31:04.980 --> 01:31:18.210 Ansar Muhammad: My voice is for that individual that got asleep on that concrete tonight, some of these people, I know personally I just made it very clear, I have a person an outreach person over there, right now, he don't have a gun. 792 01:31:19.410 --> 01:31:25.620 Ansar Muhammad: The police is not with him he's over there, trying to see what, if any of these people at thing today, did they get a meal. 793 01:31:26.340 --> 01:31:38.370 Ansar Muhammad: So I apologize for everybody on this line is upset and angry and better because these human beings, then fell off the wagon but I remember a time and where. 794 01:31:39.330 --> 01:31:46.110 Ansar Muhammad: We could even walk down our block where we grew up at because there was some angry people saying these gang members shouldn't be here. 795 01:31:47.130 --> 01:31:51.390 Ansar Muhammad: But my grandmother shit her house was there in 1901. 796 01:31:52.500 --> 01:32:07.080 Ansar Muhammad: But people was telling us we didn't have a right to be there because we was out in the streets and i'm not saying that's right to be out in the streets, I mean I ended up in prison buying this stuff right now I got folks in prison right now. 797 01:32:08.250 --> 01:32:13.050 Ansar Muhammad: Behind the gang injunction because they was together and they should have been together. 798 01:32:14.070 --> 01:32:24.300 Ansar Muhammad: And then they get the gang enhancements so I don't know it's just it's good to have this conversation it's very is good to hear the anger, but just know Mr Mohammed. 799 01:32:25.200 --> 01:32:35.880 Ansar Muhammad: Voices for everybody that's over there, right now, and whatever's going on is what's going on my voice is going to always stay with them, and maybe that's why i'm on this committee. 800 01:32:36.630 --> 01:32:43.860 Ansar Muhammad: Because, at the end of the day, these people need a voice if we took time out and i'll be quiet on this note, if we took time out. 801 01:32:44.550 --> 01:32:56.190 Ansar Muhammad: To just go over there, without being afraid and have conversations with these individuals, yes, they over there, getting high Yes, they shooting dope yes, this prostitution, yes there's a gang element there. 802 01:32:57.270 --> 01:33:01.500 Ansar Muhammad: No doubt, but how many of us then took time out to go out and talk to these people. 803 01:33:02.730 --> 01:33:11.640 Ansar Muhammad: And what we might find out is, we can have some real conversations with them and what we might find out is yes, we heard it earlier that the service providers is dropping the ball. 804 01:33:12.450 --> 01:33:28.650 Ansar Muhammad: But we can't just say get rid of these people, because they are over there by the library that's the same shit they told us when we was on the block get rid of them because they violent the game members man and guess what they did somebody passed the law. 805 01:33:29.670 --> 01:33:39.390 Ansar Muhammad: and put the whole finish show line crypt everybody on a gang injunction all the V 13 is on the gang injunction when we went to court and i'll be quiet, but when we went to court. 806 01:33:40.020 --> 01:33:54.150 Ansar Muhammad: in Santa Monica when this gang injunction was enacted we found out to several individuals was either rest in peace or was in prison and some of them was never even involved in the game so with That being said. 807 01:33:55.620 --> 01:34:02.820 Ansar Muhammad: Something has to be done, but whatever we do this, know where stammheim is voices that, as you guys make these decisions, thank you. 808 01:34:08.370 --> 01:34:08.970 frank murphy: Okay. 809 01:34:10.470 --> 01:34:13.890 frank murphy: cool, let me get your hands fill up yeah more. 810 01:34:18.210 --> 01:34:22.260 C Bailey: um I just want to say it's my neighbor to I live in oakland. 811 01:34:23.610 --> 01:34:28.050 C Bailey: lived on Seventh and or six and brooks had bullets come through my window one night. 812 01:34:29.730 --> 01:34:39.480 C Bailey: After I came home from a 12 hour day of working had the radio out of my hand I stolen, I know what it's like that's why i'm speaking for the residents. 813 01:34:40.950 --> 01:34:41.160 C Bailey: That. 814 01:34:44.640 --> 01:35:02.400 Ansar Muhammad: Thank you for being on this committee with us, thank you for being candid and thank you for your passion and it's needed, I mean we're not going to always agree on all matters, but I didn't show up to this committee. 815 01:35:03.660 --> 01:35:11.910 Ansar Muhammad: To speak for those who got a voice I just I just have to be very honest I didn't show back up to the neighborhood Council. 816 01:35:13.500 --> 01:35:18.180 Ansar Muhammad: to represent people who got a voice i'm back on the neighborhood Council. 817 01:35:19.410 --> 01:35:22.890 Ansar Muhammad: For foreign for me, because we still have. 818 01:35:23.580 --> 01:35:32.790 Ansar Muhammad: A group of folks that don't have a voice right now the homeless don't have a voice Stan Muhammad is here. 819 01:35:33.840 --> 01:35:42.480 Ansar Muhammad: To give them a voice to give them some credibility with this group, and whatever we gotta do to empower them. 820 01:35:43.620 --> 01:35:50.460 Ansar Muhammad: The next week, we should be doing, we got to put the service providers will notice let's do that, but to listen to emotion. 821 01:35:51.120 --> 01:36:00.810 Ansar Muhammad: Saying that these it's over 110 so what and it's only 25 to listen to a motion say we got to get rid of these people okay get rid of them and send them where. 822 01:36:01.710 --> 01:36:12.600 Ansar Muhammad: If Nick can tell me tonight hey Mr Mohammed, we have a place in Venice, not in West West la but in because some of these people want to be in business, they have a right to be in Venice. 823 01:36:13.350 --> 01:36:19.560 Ansar Muhammad: So we're about in business, right now, Nick can we say, if I can call my people right now say mandy is a couple of people. 824 01:36:19.830 --> 01:36:38.400 Ansar Muhammad: ready to go right now, if you can tell me, I can call my folks right now, because they still there, they be there all night to make sure shit don't really gotta you know get crazy, but right now, if if you can tell me Stan I got a place for them ago in Venice, can you give me that tonight. 825 01:36:41.730 --> 01:36:42.600 Brian Ulf: Probably in the shelter. 826 01:36:43.470 --> 01:36:45.660 Brian Ulf: Where we're housing is. 827 01:36:45.750 --> 01:36:46.980 Brian Ulf: bridge housing isn't Paul. 828 01:36:47.550 --> 01:36:48.360 Ansar Muhammad: where's it located. 829 01:36:50.610 --> 01:36:51.300 Brian Ulf: sunset. 830 01:36:51.510 --> 01:36:52.380 Brian Ulf: and main. 831 01:36:53.370 --> 01:36:54.420 Ansar Muhammad: Okay, oh. 832 01:36:55.830 --> 01:36:57.180 Brian Ulf: hi hundred and 54 beds. 833 01:36:57.210 --> 01:36:58.500 Brian Ulf: 50 foot take meds and I. 834 01:36:59.070 --> 01:37:01.530 Ansar Muhammad: heard about that we heard about this, but earlier. 835 01:37:02.070 --> 01:37:03.120 Ansar Muhammad: yeah now. 836 01:37:03.600 --> 01:37:04.590 Brian Ulf: But again it's not. 837 01:37:04.920 --> 01:37:17.160 Brian Ulf: ready, why is the nonprofit and our Council taking them and putting that its this isn't the angry sweeps this is get them into hi everybody wants to put them in house, I want to put them in chair house. 838 01:37:19.950 --> 01:37:20.310 frank murphy: Consider. 839 01:37:21.870 --> 01:37:24.630 frank murphy: let's let's let's see if we can't. 840 01:37:26.760 --> 01:37:31.350 frank murphy: rewrite this in a way that dad, then that will work. 841 01:37:32.340 --> 01:37:47.700 Brian Ulf: And if frank and frank and frank wrote it frank wrote that 68% of the homeless and CD 11 or in Venice i'm not sure that the entire 40,000 people in Venice would want to continue that that process so. 842 01:37:47.790 --> 01:37:48.030 Maybe. 843 01:37:49.650 --> 01:37:50.520 Brian Ulf: that's gonna be hard. 844 01:37:51.120 --> 01:37:55.740 Ansar Muhammad: Maybe I should tell my people to have everybody to go over to St joseph's parking lot. 845 01:37:56.850 --> 01:37:57.330 Ansar Muhammad: or. 846 01:37:58.050 --> 01:38:05.610 Ansar Muhammad: Maybe that's what I should do that, I can tell my people to see if they can get them to go over there today parking lot maybe that has changed the whole game. 847 01:38:06.030 --> 01:38:06.540 Brian Ulf: It might. 848 01:38:09.360 --> 01:38:11.070 Pat Raphael: people right across the street from there. 849 01:38:13.830 --> 01:38:19.650 Pat Raphael: there's a whole right and those people get a lot of police harassment. 850 01:38:19.980 --> 01:38:26.190 Pat Raphael: Because they're right, I mean there's a guy who stumbled into into. 851 01:38:28.080 --> 01:38:38.670 Pat Raphael: Lincoln and the guy didn't die, simply because the guy was a Texan and driver and not paying attention right and he could have also, as he swerved out of the way. 852 01:38:39.330 --> 01:38:50.400 Pat Raphael: Somebody anatomy right, but they do get a lot of a lot of folks right in front of them to show them, you know here's a pool of people to work with, but. 853 01:38:51.030 --> 01:39:01.680 Pat Raphael: Once again, what I want to stress is the folks that are there didn't come out of nowhere yes there's people from other places, because there's people. 854 01:39:02.100 --> 01:39:08.580 Pat Raphael: From under the bridge I know a guy who used to be under the bridge by support right and. 855 01:39:09.090 --> 01:39:14.970 Pat Raphael: They were worried on the under the bridge was if you show up on the beach and you're in the tent they're going to give you housing. 856 01:39:15.330 --> 01:39:26.490 Pat Raphael: So they're like oh it's going to happen faster there, so they leave the bridge because that's why some of them are under the bridge, because they have first hand contact and people try to get them housing from there. 857 01:39:27.330 --> 01:39:40.050 Pat Raphael: So they leave the bridge and they come to Venus because Venus is supposed to be the new place where action is and then you know they find a little thing more comfortable than the bridge and fear, making a do right so. 858 01:39:41.160 --> 01:39:50.880 Pat Raphael: I guess what I want to stress once again because, of course, yes, we have amongst the homeless people a higher population of mental health amongst the homeless people. 859 01:39:51.090 --> 01:39:55.920 Pat Raphael: We have a higher population of people in Drugs amongst the homeless people, we have a higher. 860 01:39:58.500 --> 01:39:59.070 Pat Raphael: Acting. 861 01:39:59.430 --> 01:39:59.850 In my. 862 01:40:01.830 --> 01:40:02.550 Brian Ulf: district Canada. 863 01:40:03.120 --> 01:40:03.510 frank murphy: yeah we're. 864 01:40:05.040 --> 01:40:13.650 Nick Antonicello: throwing the motion for several reasons, number one this committee has no intention of doing anything, secondly standards made comments 25. 865 01:40:15.390 --> 01:40:18.480 Nick Antonicello: is an absolute why I was there yesterday. 866 01:40:21.420 --> 01:40:21.930 frank murphy: Okay. 867 01:40:23.910 --> 01:40:31.170 Pat Raphael: that's it maybe there's a gulf between 25 and hundreds, but we're being asked to vote on emotion, with hundreds. 868 01:40:31.650 --> 01:40:32.190 yeah. 869 01:40:33.810 --> 01:40:36.210 frank murphy: yeah and that's that's. 870 01:40:41.370 --> 01:40:42.330 frank murphy: that's the. 871 01:40:42.390 --> 01:40:44.130 frank murphy: that's The problem with this. 872 01:40:44.550 --> 01:40:44.820 Elizabeth Wright: I would. 873 01:40:44.850 --> 01:40:46.530 Elizabeth Wright: Like to revision. 874 01:40:47.430 --> 01:40:48.000 Okay. 875 01:40:49.680 --> 01:40:51.720 Elizabeth Wright: Okay we've got one, whereas. 876 01:40:53.280 --> 01:41:07.020 Elizabeth Wright: Whereas the environment surrounding the Venice library and sentence and centennial park has experienced a significant increase in crime many local residents live in fear and are afraid to visit the library. 877 01:41:08.040 --> 01:41:18.870 Elizabeth Wright: The motion the Venice neighborhood Council insists that the city of Los Angeles, make the encampment that centennial park its top priority for dispersing to housing. 878 01:41:25.020 --> 01:41:38.700 Pat Raphael: Okay, so we're gonna bring into the situation Robert says, you have to vote on the thing the way it is or vote on changing it and I don't want to change it, so I would have to debate and do all the. 879 01:41:41.280 --> 01:41:41.940 Brian Ulf: Votes 880 01:41:43.020 --> 01:41:45.150 Elizabeth Wright: essence of the original notion. 881 01:41:46.350 --> 01:41:48.180 Elizabeth Wright: The essence of the original motion. 882 01:41:48.540 --> 01:41:48.720 well. 883 01:41:50.820 --> 01:41:53.940 frank murphy: Can we can we vote on. 884 01:41:56.370 --> 01:41:56.730 frank murphy: let's see. 885 01:41:57.750 --> 01:42:07.410 frank murphy: let's see, we have to have a make a motion to change it right and then and then we'd have to second that motion. 886 01:42:07.530 --> 01:42:09.600 Brian Ulf: And then yeah and then you need public comment. 887 01:42:10.950 --> 01:42:16.590 frank murphy: And then get back to change, yes, we, we need to change it first all right. 888 01:42:16.950 --> 01:42:17.370 Okay. 889 01:42:18.540 --> 01:42:19.230 Brian Ulf: This is. 890 01:42:19.410 --> 01:42:20.640 Elizabeth Wright: The change you want change. 891 01:42:20.940 --> 01:42:22.470 Brian Ulf: Listen listen I like. 892 01:42:23.100 --> 01:42:26.730 Brian Ulf: This is making a motion to change it as follows that she just read. 893 01:42:26.760 --> 01:42:28.500 frank murphy: i'd second yeah all right. 894 01:42:30.480 --> 01:42:30.810 frank murphy: Tony. 895 01:42:31.890 --> 01:42:35.940 Brian Ulf: Can you read that one more time Liz because then we're going to have public comment on this I. 896 01:42:37.740 --> 01:42:38.070 Brian Ulf: needed know. 897 01:42:38.850 --> 01:42:39.870 Brian Ulf: Okay read it read it. 898 01:42:41.310 --> 01:42:51.870 Elizabeth Wright: The Venice neighborhood Council insists that the city of Los Angeles makes the encampment at centennial park its top priority for dispersal to housing. 899 01:42:52.800 --> 01:42:56.130 Brian Ulf: Can we put 30 days in there, to come up with the plan. 900 01:42:57.390 --> 01:42:58.200 Brian Ulf: to disperse. 901 01:43:02.850 --> 01:43:03.300 Brian Ulf: For. 902 01:43:04.080 --> 01:43:04.680 Elizabeth Wright: Two weeks. 903 01:43:05.370 --> 01:43:16.290 Brian Ulf: yeah i'm just being realistic it's going to be another told those guys get it, but to implement is media, no later than 60 days to present a plan to our community on how that's going to happen. 904 01:43:17.940 --> 01:43:20.550 frank murphy: that's kind of what you're asking reasonable yeah. 905 01:43:20.640 --> 01:43:24.510 Elizabeth Wright: The original motion didn't say I want to plan it said I want them gone. 906 01:43:26.160 --> 01:43:26.460 frank murphy: Right. 907 01:43:26.910 --> 01:43:34.500 frank murphy: yeah so we would say 30 days to get the to have a plan that implemented within 60 days. 908 01:43:34.950 --> 01:43:41.550 Brian Ulf: Now I mean Mike Mike when they did homeless to encampments on the boardwalk it was a six week process all right. 909 01:43:42.540 --> 01:43:53.070 Brian Ulf: But they still had to come up and and make that plan on how they were going to attack that so you're asking the nonprofits and CD 11 to come up a plan within 30 days and implement it. 910 01:43:54.780 --> 01:43:59.160 Brian Ulf: You know, with it within 30 days thereafter so it's a 60 day process yeah. 911 01:44:00.690 --> 01:44:02.370 Brian Ulf: we're asking we're asking for an. 912 01:44:02.400 --> 01:44:03.450 Brian Ulf: Action item. 913 01:44:05.040 --> 01:44:05.460 Ansar Muhammad: doesn't. 914 01:44:05.610 --> 01:44:11.790 Brian Ulf: That isn't mean that doesn't say bad things about anybody that you know it's just stating the obvious. 915 01:44:12.690 --> 01:44:14.580 Ansar Muhammad: Can we name them in the motion. 916 01:44:15.150 --> 01:44:15.840 Brian Ulf: Name who. 917 01:44:16.080 --> 01:44:21.090 Ansar Muhammad: The entities like we were saying disperse disperse where. 918 01:44:21.630 --> 01:44:22.410 Brian Ulf: we're not saying. 919 01:44:23.130 --> 01:44:23.310 Elizabeth Wright: We. 920 01:44:23.580 --> 01:44:24.450 Brian Ulf: We took that out. 921 01:44:25.650 --> 01:44:27.270 frank murphy: We put we said housing. 922 01:44:28.050 --> 01:44:28.380 housing. 923 01:44:31.350 --> 01:44:32.550 frank murphy: Available housing. 924 01:44:32.850 --> 01:44:34.320 Elizabeth Wright: That is what the courts have said. 925 01:44:34.860 --> 01:44:39.480 Brian Ulf: yeah so stay on, you know how this is gonna work bonds office is going to call St Joseph. 926 01:44:39.480 --> 01:44:47.610 Brian Ulf: The path they're going to authorize them to do in Camp mental home project or refill the the shelter beds at the at sunset. 927 01:44:48.180 --> 01:44:56.190 Brian Ulf: And they're going to go in and offer that space to that entire in cabinet whether it's 5010 or 100 tenants, a population of 75 or 100. 928 01:44:56.970 --> 01:45:02.340 Brian Ulf: And that's how that's how West Chester part was dealt with that's how the boardwalk was dealt with and again. 929 01:45:02.760 --> 01:45:14.040 Brian Ulf: It doesn't mean path that everybody's gonna stay on those but maybe if 20 or 30 people from that way they do it stay in the housing and get through and into a program. 930 01:45:14.940 --> 01:45:21.780 Brian Ulf: it's good right now there's going to sit till the end of the term, this that encampments going to be the way it is until the elections change. 931 01:45:22.530 --> 01:45:23.160 frank murphy: So let's move. 932 01:45:23.340 --> 01:45:24.690 Brian Ulf: On until the Sheriff shows up. 933 01:45:25.140 --> 01:45:29.640 frank murphy: that's had on the bottom of that that that you just did this. 934 01:45:30.540 --> 01:45:32.550 Brian Ulf: kind of redo your motion list. 935 01:45:32.820 --> 01:45:39.600 frank murphy: redo it to include 30 days to have a plan and 30 days to implement 60 days total. 936 01:45:42.600 --> 01:45:50.370 Brian Ulf: And if you call like Tristan talk to us last month, she said hey that plan is happening right now they're in their in their making that how they're going to do it. 937 01:45:50.790 --> 01:46:00.840 Brian Ulf: Well, the only plan they're going to come in with housing is in Camp it's to home, what what they did on the boardwalk what they did at penn Martin what they did at West Chester OK. 938 01:46:03.810 --> 01:46:06.150 Brian Ulf: And then Stan we hope it sticks. 939 01:46:07.260 --> 01:46:08.280 Ansar Muhammad: Yes, sir. 940 01:46:11.430 --> 01:46:12.750 Brian Ulf: yeah but. 941 01:46:14.760 --> 01:46:15.180 yeah. 942 01:46:16.260 --> 01:46:17.280 Brian Ulf: get him into. 943 01:46:18.600 --> 01:46:20.250 Brian Ulf: Recovery housing get them into. 944 01:46:21.300 --> 01:46:22.050 Brian Ulf: Life changing. 945 01:46:26.610 --> 01:46:30.360 Pat Raphael: Does it matter that Nick actually with drew the motion. 946 01:46:31.290 --> 01:46:35.250 frank murphy: He did know it's already on our it's already on our. 947 01:46:36.300 --> 01:46:36.690 frank murphy: Are. 948 01:46:37.410 --> 01:46:38.610 frank murphy: Looking for dealing with. 949 01:46:39.210 --> 01:46:39.480 yeah. 950 01:46:42.240 --> 01:46:44.940 Ansar Muhammad: Thank you, Nick for bringing the the motion. 951 01:46:45.450 --> 01:46:45.780 Ansar Muhammad: yeah. 952 01:46:46.500 --> 01:46:48.300 Ansar Muhammad: and makes me pretty heavy. 953 01:46:52.890 --> 01:46:57.690 Brian Ulf: yeah you know what the primary coming next month there's gonna be a lot of politics going on. 954 01:46:59.730 --> 01:47:00.180 Brian Ulf: yeah. 955 01:47:02.700 --> 01:47:03.060 Brian Ulf: So. 956 01:47:04.080 --> 01:47:06.030 Brian Ulf: i'm kind of i'm kind of shocked that they haven't. 957 01:47:08.310 --> 01:47:09.840 Brian Ulf: You sad encampment to their. 958 01:47:11.700 --> 01:47:12.150 Brian Ulf: benefit. 959 01:47:14.160 --> 01:47:14.940 frank murphy: me well. 960 01:47:17.640 --> 01:47:18.120 Elizabeth Wright: Okay. 961 01:47:19.170 --> 01:47:21.900 Elizabeth Wright: i've got a revision that I hope I can read. 962 01:47:23.010 --> 01:47:36.780 Elizabeth Wright: The best neighborhood Council insists that the city of Los Angeles within 30 days come up with a plan and with 60 days within 60 days implement the plan to offer housing. 963 01:47:37.800 --> 01:47:39.780 Elizabeth Wright: To those in the centennial park. 964 01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:44.640 Elizabeth Wright: and dismantle the encampment there. 965 01:47:47.460 --> 01:47:49.200 Brian Ulf: Can you have something about the library. 966 01:47:51.030 --> 01:47:51.450 In there. 967 01:47:55.230 --> 01:47:56.280 Elizabeth Wright: What about the library. 968 01:47:56.850 --> 01:47:58.350 frank murphy: right here original one. 969 01:47:58.560 --> 01:48:00.450 Brian Ulf: And the original one that you, you said. 970 01:48:01.260 --> 01:48:01.980 Brian Ulf: that's in your. 971 01:48:03.690 --> 01:48:04.410 Elizabeth Wright: awareness. 972 01:48:07.980 --> 01:48:08.370 Brian Ulf: and 973 01:48:08.460 --> 01:48:11.970 Brian Ulf: and probably within the 60 days is returned the library. 974 01:48:14.340 --> 01:48:18.630 frank murphy: Normal yes, can you read that again, one more time, please. 975 01:48:19.230 --> 01:48:22.050 Elizabeth Wright: i've got to do some crossing out because I did. 976 01:48:22.080 --> 01:48:22.410 Okay. 977 01:48:23.550 --> 01:48:23.880 Okay. 978 01:48:28.320 --> 01:48:30.390 Brian Ulf: I don't think he's been gone any thoughts. 979 01:48:31.140 --> 01:48:32.280 vicki halliday: i'm listening thank. 980 01:48:32.460 --> 01:48:32.730 Brian Ulf: You oh. 981 01:48:32.820 --> 01:48:33.750 vicki halliday: sorry about that. 982 01:48:34.050 --> 01:48:34.800 Brian Ulf: Any thoughts. 983 01:48:36.210 --> 01:48:42.690 vicki halliday: No, I will I was listening to what Liz said, are you guys are pretty much in agreement with where we are on this. 984 01:48:42.930 --> 01:48:43.830 Brian Ulf: print costs yeah. 985 01:48:46.500 --> 01:48:50.940 Ansar Muhammad: i'm an agreement, as long as we can see that these folks do have. 986 01:48:52.110 --> 01:48:53.190 Ansar Muhammad: An opportunity. 987 01:48:54.900 --> 01:48:56.910 Ansar Muhammad: To get some real services. 988 01:48:58.890 --> 01:48:59.250 Ansar Muhammad: didn't. 989 01:48:59.550 --> 01:48:59.820 They. 990 01:49:00.930 --> 01:49:09.870 Brian Ulf: yeah but the only services that are going to be offered as is what St joe's but path and went bought and authorizes so that's all we're asking them to do. 991 01:49:12.690 --> 01:49:15.090 Brian Ulf: authorize it implement it and get it going. 992 01:49:17.370 --> 01:49:34.890 Elizabeth Wright: Okay, the Venice neighborhood Council insists that the city of Los Angeles within 30 days come up with a plan and within 60 days implement the plan to offer housing to those in the centennial park encampment and dismantle it. 993 01:49:38.100 --> 01:49:41.880 Brian Ulf: housing and services, I think you need to add the word Sir housing services. 994 01:49:43.320 --> 01:49:43.800 Elizabeth Wright: Good point. 995 01:49:46.320 --> 01:49:50.700 vicki halliday: So is there nothing in about the library that's why i'm confused. 996 01:49:54.030 --> 01:49:54.690 Elizabeth Wright: itself. 997 01:49:55.620 --> 01:49:58.950 Brian Ulf: To put it in that whereas what can you read your whereas really quite. 998 01:49:59.070 --> 01:49:59.550 Whereas. 999 01:50:00.690 --> 01:50:13.080 Elizabeth Wright: Whereas the environment surrounding the Venice library has experienced a significant increase in crime many local residents live in fear and are afraid to visit the library. 1000 01:50:14.400 --> 01:50:17.070 vicki halliday: However, you okay with that is that strong enough. 1001 01:50:21.090 --> 01:50:26.130 C Bailey: Yes, I think that we should you know offer something in terms of public safety and the mission. 1002 01:50:27.720 --> 01:50:27.960 Brian Ulf: and 1003 01:50:28.350 --> 01:50:36.090 Brian Ulf: You know and and you could say and return the public library to its intended use within that 60 day time period. 1004 01:50:38.670 --> 01:50:40.980 Elizabeth Wright: Support the thing is the. 1005 01:50:41.940 --> 01:50:42.660 C Bailey: One document. 1006 01:50:45.990 --> 01:50:50.850 Elizabeth Wright: Nobody has done anything to the library, other than make it uncomfortable to be in. 1007 01:50:51.600 --> 01:50:55.530 Brian Ulf: unsafe i've close the hours they've changed. 1008 01:50:56.640 --> 01:50:58.680 Brian Ulf: That there's been huge ramifications. 1009 01:50:59.070 --> 01:51:01.590 vicki halliday: I think the children can no longer have reading our. 1010 01:51:03.150 --> 01:51:03.900 vicki halliday: Senate. 1011 01:51:04.020 --> 01:51:07.410 Brian Ulf: And and Liz it's posted on the wall. 1012 01:51:08.520 --> 01:51:10.890 Brian Ulf: The llc municipal code. 1013 01:51:24.300 --> 01:51:34.110 Brian Ulf: I don't think there's anybody opposed to having a homeless on house person that's respectful that goes into the library that gets on the Internet that's working to get a job and doing those things. 1014 01:51:35.490 --> 01:51:49.380 Brian Ulf: If we are using the bathrooms for drug or people that are you know impaired and it becomes dangerous it's just it's two different people not trying to to keep anybody that wants to use the library. 1015 01:51:50.610 --> 01:51:52.290 Brian Ulf: For the intended use the library. 1016 01:51:54.240 --> 01:51:59.940 Brian Ulf: it's it's the unintended use when you have that first stop in the morning, you know. 1017 01:52:01.320 --> 01:52:12.900 Brian Ulf: i'm 20 years over last week I used to wake up with a point oh eight, you know, maybe more, and you know you're still running in the morning and then they've walked right in in the library it's dangerous. 1018 01:52:16.140 --> 01:52:17.550 Brian Ulf: we're just waiting for less to. 1019 01:52:17.790 --> 01:52:22.380 vicki halliday: His anybody mean his Nick waited on this, since it was his motion. 1020 01:52:22.710 --> 01:52:24.270 Brian Ulf: He said he pulled the motion. 1021 01:52:25.320 --> 01:52:26.520 frank murphy: motion from. 1022 01:52:26.910 --> 01:52:27.540 Elizabeth Wright: can do that. 1023 01:52:28.500 --> 01:52:30.480 Brian Ulf: yeah yeah he was. 1024 01:52:30.810 --> 01:52:33.360 frank murphy: Well that's too late to do that. 1025 01:52:36.600 --> 01:52:38.790 vicki halliday: So he doesn't agree with these amendments. 1026 01:52:39.930 --> 01:52:40.500 Brian Ulf: Now well. 1027 01:52:40.560 --> 01:52:41.250 frank murphy: I don't know. 1028 01:52:45.120 --> 01:52:49.230 Brian Ulf: He he technically jumped off the meeting and protest of. 1029 01:52:53.040 --> 01:52:55.530 frank murphy: he'll come at once we once we refrain we. 1030 01:52:55.530 --> 01:52:57.120 Brian Ulf: Go when we go back to public comment. 1031 01:53:02.130 --> 01:53:07.230 frank murphy: And just didn't let him stay on on the Committee on the committee back and forth. 1032 01:53:08.970 --> 01:53:14.850 C Bailey: can't we submit his original document as supporting supporting Duncan. 1033 01:53:18.510 --> 01:53:19.590 vicki halliday: I don't know Liz can we. 1034 01:53:20.790 --> 01:53:21.060 Elizabeth Wright: know. 1035 01:53:22.230 --> 01:53:22.590 Elizabeth Wright: I mean. 1036 01:53:23.520 --> 01:53:25.260 Elizabeth Wright: It is in there. 1037 01:53:27.120 --> 01:53:30.210 vicki halliday: Do you mean my problem was the 10th count. 1038 01:53:30.840 --> 01:53:37.050 Elizabeth Wright: yeah he doesn't say unless one touch your day he counted this many or someone counted that many. 1039 01:53:38.220 --> 01:53:40.830 Elizabeth Wright: You know it your. 1040 01:53:42.270 --> 01:53:45.270 Pat Raphael: Language about daily fights this language about. 1041 01:53:47.910 --> 01:53:50.550 Pat Raphael: I mean, I feel like these are. 1042 01:53:50.880 --> 01:53:51.930 Elizabeth Wright: very refreshing. 1043 01:54:01.980 --> 01:54:03.210 Brian Ulf: is why we need the cameras. 1044 01:54:09.960 --> 01:54:11.760 Elizabeth Wright: Whereas neal says. 1045 01:54:14.010 --> 01:54:28.440 Elizabeth Wright: The environment surrounding the Venice library has experienced a significant increase in crime many local residents live in fear and are afraid to visit the library, it has triggered shortening of. 1046 01:54:29.820 --> 01:54:34.020 Elizabeth Wright: library hours and cancellation of programs for children. 1047 01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:36.630 vicki halliday: That good. 1048 01:54:38.190 --> 01:54:44.760 Pat Raphael: Are we sure that the library hours changing was a direct result of centennial park because I. 1049 01:54:46.380 --> 01:54:49.770 Pat Raphael: i'm not really sure that one has anything to do with the other. 1050 01:54:50.220 --> 01:54:51.480 vicki halliday: No, it does that path. 1051 01:54:54.810 --> 01:55:03.870 Pat Raphael: So is there anything that we can consider to be an authoritative source i'm not saying I don't believe you miss holiday i'm just. 1052 01:55:05.370 --> 01:55:08.070 Pat Raphael: wanting to have that considered because. 1053 01:55:08.700 --> 01:55:09.150 vicki halliday: will be. 1054 01:55:11.130 --> 01:55:11.640 Pat Raphael: Changing. 1055 01:55:11.880 --> 01:55:15.900 vicki halliday: We have to call tomorrow morning and confirm it and then here this next month. 1056 01:55:22.050 --> 01:55:22.860 frank murphy: Well, are we could. 1057 01:55:26.250 --> 01:55:29.400 frank murphy: always the language around that Elizabeth sorry. 1058 01:55:30.480 --> 01:55:36.810 Elizabeth Wright: That the encampment that by violence, not the violence crime increased. 1059 01:55:38.850 --> 01:55:40.860 Elizabeth Wright: triggered shortening of. 1060 01:55:42.210 --> 01:55:43.110 Elizabeth Wright: The hours. 1061 01:55:44.130 --> 01:55:47.250 Elizabeth Wright: and cancellation of programs for children. 1062 01:55:50.100 --> 01:55:51.300 frank murphy: So, you could say. 1063 01:55:54.660 --> 01:55:58.170 frank murphy: Take the word triggered out and put another word in there. 1064 01:55:59.820 --> 01:56:00.450 Brian Ulf: You could. 1065 01:56:01.050 --> 01:56:02.340 frank murphy: might be responsible. 1066 01:56:02.340 --> 01:56:04.470 Brian Ulf: For you, you could reference. 1067 01:56:04.530 --> 01:56:07.350 Brian Ulf: The property posted. 1068 01:56:08.490 --> 01:56:09.360 Brian Ulf: offenses. 1069 01:56:11.970 --> 01:56:12.720 Brian Ulf: Which is. 1070 01:56:14.520 --> 01:56:23.460 Brian Ulf: If you obstruct or intimidate patrons of this facility and you're asked to leave, I mean that it's posted on the wall so. 1071 01:56:23.520 --> 01:56:25.140 Brian Ulf: You don't have to make up something new. 1072 01:56:25.260 --> 01:56:26.370 Brian Ulf: that's just what it is. 1073 01:56:26.670 --> 01:56:31.980 Pat Raphael: Because this is already the roof right, so the rules on it there's a whole bunch of things you already. 1074 01:56:36.210 --> 01:56:46.620 Pat Raphael: have been there are so many of them, not even tell about the rules can we direct the motion to say something like that, like hey let's enforce the rules of the library let's make sure. 1075 01:56:46.950 --> 01:56:49.500 Brian Ulf: yeah that's what I that's what i'm saying. 1076 01:56:49.530 --> 01:56:54.180 Brian Ulf: keep everything the same list but add that the city will also enforce. 1077 01:56:56.790 --> 01:57:00.060 Brian Ulf: The library property regulations as posted. 1078 01:57:01.410 --> 01:57:02.160 Elizabeth Wright: that's good enough. 1079 01:57:02.580 --> 01:57:04.860 Brian Ulf: As posted yeah yeah yeah. 1080 01:57:07.710 --> 01:57:08.970 C Bailey: About enforcing the law. 1081 01:57:09.060 --> 01:57:10.650 Brian Ulf: Here, yet so that that's what we're saying. 1082 01:57:12.120 --> 01:57:12.480 Elizabeth Wright: well. 1083 01:57:13.710 --> 01:57:14.760 frank murphy: we're trying to say. 1084 01:57:15.210 --> 01:57:20.010 Elizabeth Wright: The overall difficulty is that the laws are one thing and the court rulings, or something else. 1085 01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:21.930 Brian Ulf: that's not ours to make. 1086 01:57:23.430 --> 01:57:26.370 vicki halliday: sense, just to know is what we think is best for the Community. 1087 01:57:26.760 --> 01:57:33.960 C Bailey: Know open open prostitution know up, and you know fighting and oh my God. 1088 01:57:35.310 --> 01:57:39.090 Ansar Muhammad: How do we know the crime have actually went up in that area is it. 1089 01:57:39.510 --> 01:57:48.780 Ansar Muhammad: Is law enforcement given us that data that there's been a significant increase in crime at that in cabinet site or do anyone know that. 1090 01:57:49.170 --> 01:57:50.700 Brian Ulf: yeah we can get that from see pap. 1091 01:57:52.380 --> 01:57:53.640 Brian Ulf: We have that information. 1092 01:57:54.240 --> 01:57:54.600 Okay. 1093 01:57:56.280 --> 01:57:57.630 Brian Ulf: The group that you talk to the Internet. 1094 01:58:00.570 --> 01:58:01.050 Ansar Muhammad: Okay. 1095 01:58:04.530 --> 01:58:04.890 frank murphy: All right. 1096 01:58:26.520 --> 01:58:29.430 Brian Ulf: Vicky centennial park monique or is it Adrian. 1097 01:58:30.120 --> 01:58:32.880 Brian Ulf: donate money yeah okay. 1098 01:58:34.620 --> 01:58:35.850 Brian Ulf: So we can get the. 1099 01:58:35.940 --> 01:58:38.850 Brian Ulf: Crime stats it would be, it would be in her yeah. 1100 01:58:41.850 --> 01:58:44.640 Brian Ulf: she's the slow for that area Stan okay. 1101 01:58:46.290 --> 01:58:47.040 Ansar Muhammad: Good news. 1102 01:58:48.630 --> 01:58:49.230 Brian Ulf: she's good. 1103 01:58:52.050 --> 01:58:52.860 Brian Ulf: she's a good egg. 1104 01:58:53.880 --> 01:58:54.240 yeah. 1105 01:58:55.800 --> 01:58:58.650 Ansar Muhammad: I just hope we criminalize in this population. 1106 01:58:59.550 --> 01:58:59.970 Brian Ulf: Now. 1107 01:59:00.270 --> 01:59:03.330 Ansar Muhammad: that's the thinking that's the thought I had on earth is motion. 1108 01:59:06.780 --> 01:59:07.590 Elizabeth Wright: No, no, no. 1109 01:59:09.480 --> 01:59:10.710 Elizabeth Wright: Okay, oh. 1110 01:59:13.440 --> 01:59:28.440 Elizabeth Wright: The Venice neighborhood Council insists, the city of Los Angeles within 30 days come up with a plan and within 60 days implement the plan to offer housing to those than the centennial park complex. 1111 01:59:29.520 --> 01:59:32.640 Elizabeth Wright: i'm sorry encampment and dismantle it. 1112 01:59:34.230 --> 01:59:39.030 Elizabeth Wright: Also enforce behavioral restrictions posted for the library. 1113 01:59:43.980 --> 01:59:50.400 Brian Ulf: I don't think you have to say behavioral let's just refer to as the library property regulations. 1114 01:59:51.630 --> 01:59:52.680 Brian Ulf: Because that's how it's written. 1115 01:59:59.340 --> 02:00:05.400 Brian Ulf: And the one other thing when you say house and services, you didn't add services to that sentence. 1116 02:00:09.300 --> 02:00:16.770 Pat Raphael: Now, what does that mean, does that mean that somebody can get offered a sandwich and told to leave, and then they said hey they were offered services or. 1117 02:00:16.980 --> 02:00:17.640 yeah it now. 1118 02:00:20.010 --> 02:00:22.830 Elizabeth Wright: I wrote it very small and and missed it when I read it. 1119 02:00:24.660 --> 02:00:25.680 Elizabeth Wright: and services. 1120 02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:29.490 Elizabeth Wright: To those centennial park encampment. 1121 02:00:31.350 --> 02:00:35.970 Pat Raphael: Because they're already coming by and giving people sandwiches in water. 1122 02:00:36.030 --> 02:00:47.880 Brian Ulf: it's not that it's housing and services stamp all right pat it'll be the encampment to home program that they do it's just implemented now that's all we're asking them to do. 1123 02:00:54.180 --> 02:00:55.980 frank murphy: Okay i'm. 1124 02:00:58.740 --> 02:00:59.040 frank murphy: gonna. 1125 02:01:00.450 --> 02:01:05.010 frank murphy: read that one more time, so we can make a motion in seconds emotion. 1126 02:01:05.460 --> 02:01:07.830 Elizabeth Wright: Okay, do you want it with a clear as yes. 1127 02:01:07.950 --> 02:01:09.060 frank murphy: With the whereas. 1128 02:01:10.890 --> 02:01:24.000 Elizabeth Wright: Whereas the environment environment surrounding the Venice library has experienced a significant increase in crime many local residents live in fear and are afraid to visit the library. 1129 02:01:30.660 --> 02:01:31.920 Elizabeth Wright: To library has. 1130 02:01:34.020 --> 02:01:38.190 Elizabeth Wright: reduced its hours and cancelled programs for children. 1131 02:01:41.070 --> 02:01:42.180 frank murphy: So we took that out. 1132 02:01:42.780 --> 02:01:44.190 Elizabeth Wright: know what the whole thing out. 1133 02:01:47.100 --> 02:01:56.940 vicki halliday: I think we need to hear our I do, and maybe i'm behind correctly, if I am, we need to hear all the, whereas we need to hear the motion is, we would be voting on it right. 1134 02:01:57.390 --> 02:01:59.250 Elizabeth Wright: right that was just the whereas. 1135 02:01:59.370 --> 02:01:59.790 Brian Ulf: that's right. 1136 02:02:01.470 --> 02:02:03.120 Brian Ulf: And that's the only whereas. 1137 02:02:03.510 --> 02:02:05.670 frank murphy: Yes, only one words yeah. 1138 02:02:06.090 --> 02:02:12.000 vicki halliday: Not pretty strong I mean it's it's it's good but I agree with combat I mean. 1139 02:02:12.390 --> 02:02:16.230 Elizabeth Wright: Do you think anybody look look, whereas does not go. 1140 02:02:18.660 --> 02:02:19.260 Elizabeth Wright: To the city. 1141 02:02:21.300 --> 02:02:23.460 frank murphy: Your ways and therefore that's the. 1142 02:02:24.360 --> 02:02:25.410 vicki halliday: Okay let's just read. 1143 02:02:30.150 --> 02:02:30.600 Elizabeth Wright: Okay. 1144 02:02:31.710 --> 02:02:50.070 Elizabeth Wright: The Venice neighborhood Council insists that the city of Los Angeles within 30 days come up with a plan and within 60 days implement the plan to offer housing and services to those in the centennial park encampment and just mental it. 1145 02:02:52.920 --> 02:02:54.030 frank murphy: Pretty straightforward. 1146 02:02:54.540 --> 02:02:59.700 Elizabeth Wright: Also enforce the library property regulations. 1147 02:03:02.160 --> 02:03:03.960 C Bailey: it's a shelter and housing. 1148 02:03:05.430 --> 02:03:06.540 vicki halliday: shelter housing. 1149 02:03:07.140 --> 02:03:07.590 housing. 1150 02:03:10.140 --> 02:03:11.760 Elizabeth Wright: As housing and services. 1151 02:03:13.140 --> 02:03:15.060 vicki halliday: mean I don't even know that we need the. 1152 02:03:17.310 --> 02:03:21.570 vicki halliday: Whereas, is it all just put that therefore through and be done with it. 1153 02:03:24.240 --> 02:03:28.800 vicki halliday: Unless it that's just me, I mean every everything is said, and then. 1154 02:03:30.660 --> 02:03:33.510 vicki halliday: I mean, I know we could put bullet points for to paint. 1155 02:03:34.710 --> 02:03:37.350 frank murphy: And we leave that one, whereas in there and i'm excellent. 1156 02:03:37.680 --> 02:03:38.070 Okay. 1157 02:03:40.860 --> 02:03:43.560 Brian Ulf: it'll it'll be changed, probably with the neighborhood Council anyway. 1158 02:03:43.980 --> 02:03:44.400 yeah. 1159 02:03:45.840 --> 02:03:46.770 frank murphy: i'm all right. 1160 02:03:49.440 --> 02:03:51.420 frank murphy: Can I make I can make the motion. 1161 02:03:52.800 --> 02:03:53.340 Brian Ulf: Yes. 1162 02:03:55.260 --> 02:03:56.370 frank murphy: Brian seconds. 1163 02:03:56.700 --> 02:03:57.030 sure. 1164 02:03:59.040 --> 02:03:59.310 Brian Ulf: I will. 1165 02:04:00.180 --> 02:04:04.590 frank murphy: Go to public comment, a minute each starting. 1166 02:04:05.400 --> 02:04:06.870 vicki halliday: With start with Nick. 1167 02:04:07.980 --> 02:04:08.340 vicki halliday: Nick. 1168 02:04:13.980 --> 02:04:20.550 Nick Antonicello: Motion, this is not a revision what is on the agenda, this is a complete castration of what I talked about. 1169 02:04:21.030 --> 02:04:21.660 Brian Ulf: You told it. 1170 02:04:21.930 --> 02:04:26.940 Nick Antonicello: Elizabeth rights and, therefore, because I pulled it you're saying you can't pull it. 1171 02:04:27.450 --> 02:04:34.950 Nick Antonicello: That you've made this major revision, as if Elizabeth right understands what i'm talking about cheers even understand what's going on the library. 1172 02:04:35.220 --> 02:04:46.050 Nick Antonicello: To friends or library send an email ethnic the COPs come down because their employees you're being the cost if I homeless people in transit, she has no clue what she's talking about. 1173 02:04:46.650 --> 02:04:59.880 Nick Antonicello: You got stabbed Muhammad claiming there's only 2510 step that's an absolute lie it's a lie, and you, people are just going along with it, this committee is a joke, it needs to be abolished. 1174 02:05:00.360 --> 02:05:08.850 Nick Antonicello: You have no clue what's going on that instantaneous none of you, because not even been there, I just found it two or three times a week. 1175 02:05:12.690 --> 02:05:13.080 Nick Antonicello: paint. 1176 02:05:14.970 --> 02:05:15.480 Nick Antonicello: yourself. 1177 02:05:20.370 --> 02:05:21.060 vicki halliday: Thank you, Nick. 1178 02:05:22.950 --> 02:05:24.150 vicki halliday: next step is shade. 1179 02:05:26.190 --> 02:05:27.240 vicki halliday: unmute yourself share. 1180 02:05:29.850 --> 02:05:33.420 Shay: chat chain me, can you hear me. 1181 02:05:33.750 --> 02:05:35.250 vicki halliday: Yes, oh. 1182 02:05:35.340 --> 02:05:43.110 Shay: Okay, good evening everyone i'll be real quick about it all I want to say is a couple questions and. 1183 02:05:44.370 --> 02:05:45.300 Shay: Two comments. 1184 02:05:46.680 --> 02:05:59.910 Shay: I actually think brian's amendment with the cameras and one is a friendly amendment to nick's original motion, I agree with everything collette just said. 1185 02:06:00.870 --> 02:06:14.190 Shay: And I understand that you know pat gets it pat Rafael if you're out there still and Muhammad speaks a lot of truth Now the question is. 1186 02:06:16.500 --> 02:06:22.710 Shay: How many of you, and how many times have you spoken with Ted hates I have joined him. 1187 02:06:24.780 --> 02:06:35.640 Shay: In our endeavor to work with the White House Interagency Council on homelessness and we can solve this and I think that all of. 1188 02:06:35.640 --> 02:06:36.870 Shay: You are once. 1189 02:06:36.990 --> 02:06:37.770 frank murphy: Thank you okay. 1190 02:06:40.620 --> 02:06:43.320 vicki halliday: Our next step is Lisa redmond please. 1191 02:06:46.080 --> 02:06:46.530 Lisa Redmond: yeah. 1192 02:06:47.640 --> 02:06:49.020 Lisa Redmond: there's a lot going on here. 1193 02:06:50.130 --> 02:06:56.970 Lisa Redmond: The huge is a point of order that whether this is a completely different emotion or a hugely mended motion, it is so. 1194 02:06:57.930 --> 02:07:09.360 Lisa Redmond: gigantically changed in whatever endeavor that it needs to be on the screen for all to see and to all to read and for stakeholders, like myself, to make a. 1195 02:07:10.260 --> 02:07:21.210 Lisa Redmond: valid, they have a valid opportunity to speak on it, there was so much back and forth and changes with everybody that I really don't have a good track of what the actual emotion is. 1196 02:07:21.720 --> 02:07:30.090 Lisa Redmond: and also in the March board meeting the police said there had been no significant change in crime and at last board meeting. 1197 02:07:30.330 --> 02:07:39.030 Lisa Redmond: They didn't seem to mention it all other than yeah we're aware of the encampment there, so if there was such a huge increase in crime i'm sure they would have been quick to mention it. 1198 02:07:39.480 --> 02:07:46.650 Lisa Redmond: But we need to see this motion before you can vote on it, and I should have an opportunity to speak on it once I can read it, thank you. 1199 02:07:49.350 --> 02:07:52.320 vicki halliday: Next up is so parodies. 1200 02:07:53.760 --> 02:07:54.390 vicki halliday: So. 1201 02:07:56.640 --> 02:08:01.920 Sal Paradise: Good afternoon or good evening um I think one thing you can do to resolve people's concerns about. 1202 02:08:03.000 --> 02:08:08.400 Sal Paradise: The agenda changing, as you can call a special meeting and seven days that will satisfy the brown act requirement. 1203 02:08:09.540 --> 02:08:18.780 Sal Paradise: You could also address brian's input about having cameras installed, with a new agenda item which will be which would be great. 1204 02:08:19.740 --> 02:08:29.160 Sal Paradise: i'm not hearing enough conversation about the failure of the service providers the failure that they have done with the unhappy the failure that they've done with the. 1205 02:08:29.790 --> 02:08:43.590 Sal Paradise: Residents around this this park and the overall failure of their mismanagement of funds there no big con no bid contracts, and that is what is really an issue money was approved. 1206 02:08:44.640 --> 02:08:53.310 Sal Paradise: And it's been wasted and it's been blown away and nothing is happening, that is, the satisfaction of anyone people are not being housed. 1207 02:08:54.810 --> 02:08:56.460 Sal Paradise: People are not feeling safe. 1208 02:08:58.710 --> 02:09:02.160 Sal Paradise: and housing and shelter are two solutions. 1209 02:09:04.620 --> 02:09:05.280 frank murphy: Thanks show. 1210 02:09:06.540 --> 02:09:09.300 vicki halliday: Thank you so i'm shauna Brian. 1211 02:09:12.390 --> 02:09:21.120 Sean obrien: Good job tough night, I support the motion, I just wanted to have something I want to see something get done at centennial park. 1212 02:09:21.570 --> 02:09:32.760 Sean obrien: I wanted to comment about Lisa redman and about how the COPs are saying there's been no they claim there's been no significant increase in crime, nobody reports, the crimes anymore, because. 1213 02:09:33.060 --> 02:09:39.810 Sean obrien: It takes you a half hour to an hour just to get through on the phone or then they tell you, you got to go down to the station and make a report. 1214 02:09:40.080 --> 02:09:49.770 Sean obrien: And then there's nothing they're going to do and follow up and you're not going to get your property back so the crimes, not being reported everybody's talking about how this area has seen an increase in crime. 1215 02:09:51.090 --> 02:10:00.120 Sean obrien: And finally, I just wanted to say, I support Brian with the idea of putting cameras in there, if you can't do it on this motion i'd like to see it in the future, thank you. 1216 02:10:02.940 --> 02:10:03.600 frank murphy: Thanks sure. 1217 02:10:04.380 --> 02:10:06.870 vicki halliday: um that's it for public comment. 1218 02:10:13.500 --> 02:10:13.980 frank murphy: All right. 1219 02:10:16.710 --> 02:10:20.070 frank murphy: We need to we can discuss it more. 1220 02:10:20.670 --> 02:10:22.020 vicki halliday: Like like to say something. 1221 02:10:22.350 --> 02:10:28.710 vicki halliday: If I said after hearing next speak um I understand next point of view. 1222 02:10:29.880 --> 02:10:40.830 vicki halliday: That he feels like this is a watered down motion, I think that Nick should also understand that some of the facts in his original motion were not correct. 1223 02:10:41.730 --> 02:10:53.730 vicki halliday: um and, as I mentioned in the beginning, I had spoken with Nick and asked him to maybe work on this, which he did not want to do, he said that we should do it i'm. 1224 02:10:54.870 --> 02:10:57.690 vicki halliday: In here's where we are with a very different motion. 1225 02:10:59.670 --> 02:11:08.040 vicki halliday: I feel strongly that something needs to be done about centennial park I, we need to send a message um I think that. 1226 02:11:09.120 --> 02:11:22.260 vicki halliday: I see no harm and putting this motion, through the way it is, I think, more needs to be done, I think that new motions could be on the agenda for next month, including brian's cameras, I think that there's some harder. 1227 02:11:23.850 --> 02:11:28.710 vicki halliday: things that we can tackle individually, but as a start to get centennial. 1228 02:11:29.790 --> 02:11:36.360 vicki halliday: You know, on the table and a letter off to the city from the wii and say this is maybe a good starting point. 1229 02:11:37.800 --> 02:11:43.320 vicki halliday: And I understand how Nick feels and I know that he's very angry and I get it i'm. 1230 02:11:46.110 --> 02:11:47.820 vicki halliday: And I don't know what to say about that. 1231 02:11:49.230 --> 02:12:00.270 vicki halliday: I mean, do we throw this out and all the work in the discussion that people have had tonight, or do we put something through that gets centennial park damn well on the city's radar. 1232 02:12:01.380 --> 02:12:03.690 vicki halliday: And and know that this Community has had it. 1233 02:12:05.190 --> 02:12:06.660 vicki halliday: And I think that that's important. 1234 02:12:07.770 --> 02:12:13.680 vicki halliday: um maybe some of these other individual issues we can address later on. 1235 02:12:17.010 --> 02:12:17.460 frank murphy: Okay. 1236 02:12:23.880 --> 02:12:36.600 C Bailey: I, I would like to say yes, you should vote on something tonight to get something moving to to walk away and not have anything would be would be a shame. 1237 02:12:38.430 --> 02:12:48.810 C Bailey: I understand neck i'm disappointed that we didn't want to pass your original motion but somethings better than nothing at this point and let's start something, then. 1238 02:12:49.770 --> 02:13:03.870 C Bailey: let's build on it in the next meeting and build on it more on the next meeting and, hopefully, in the next few months, we have a city council person who's willing to work with us, or we can actually get things done that's. 1239 02:13:04.920 --> 02:13:05.340 C Bailey: My help. 1240 02:13:09.840 --> 02:13:10.260 Elizabeth Wright: Okay. 1241 02:13:12.660 --> 02:13:25.710 Elizabeth Wright: To clarify the first sentence of nick's motion is the neighborhood Council supports the immediate sweep and displacement of all individuals who are illegally count at centennial park. 1242 02:13:28.590 --> 02:13:37.920 Elizabeth Wright: And instead of immediate, which would go into the round file, we put 30 days to the for the plan 60 days for the implementation. 1243 02:13:47.460 --> 02:13:48.390 C Bailey: I think that's too long. 1244 02:13:50.160 --> 02:13:50.280 C Bailey: I. 1245 02:13:51.180 --> 02:13:51.480 C Bailey: Think it's. 1246 02:13:52.050 --> 02:13:59.820 vicki halliday: Because, by the time it gets down town it's 30 days yeah and you know, and then you know, this could go on and on. 1247 02:14:00.300 --> 02:14:01.650 vicki halliday: yeah when. 1248 02:14:03.000 --> 02:14:06.060 Elizabeth Wright: I recognize that we would like, for it to be a whole lot sooner. 1249 02:14:08.040 --> 02:14:09.240 Elizabeth Wright: I think it's realistic. 1250 02:14:10.740 --> 02:14:11.340 vicki halliday: well. 1251 02:14:12.030 --> 02:14:14.370 vicki halliday: We want to make we want to. 1252 02:14:15.870 --> 02:14:25.980 vicki halliday: We want the city to understand how urgent We feel this is, and I think if we give them 60 days they're going to take 120 20. 1253 02:14:25.980 --> 02:14:28.110 Brian Ulf: they're still there still gonna do it on their time period. 1254 02:14:28.140 --> 02:14:28.830 vicki halliday: yeah they're going to do. 1255 02:14:29.970 --> 02:14:30.150 Brian Ulf: This. 1256 02:14:30.810 --> 02:14:36.600 Brian Ulf: Until they're ready to engage Lhasa or St Joe to do the encampments a home or script nothing's happened. 1257 02:14:37.830 --> 02:14:38.160 vicki halliday: Right. 1258 02:14:38.520 --> 02:14:39.180 We just wait. 1259 02:14:40.410 --> 02:14:43.380 Brian Ulf: that's why i'm saying let's just put this out there and do it let's just. 1260 02:14:43.860 --> 02:14:44.640 frank murphy: let's vote on. 1261 02:14:46.830 --> 02:14:52.620 Elizabeth Wright: Something that has a chance for getting attention and being implemented yeah. 1262 02:14:53.640 --> 02:14:59.970 Pat Raphael: agreed with with the final language, so we can all look at what exactly we're going to be voting on. 1263 02:15:03.240 --> 02:15:05.220 frank murphy: elbow we could read it again, if you want. 1264 02:15:06.570 --> 02:15:11.280 vicki halliday: If you want to read it lives i'll type it up and then i'll screen share for those people who. 1265 02:15:12.150 --> 02:15:13.740 Elizabeth Wright: Can you do both at the same. 1266 02:15:13.740 --> 02:15:15.120 vicki halliday: time I. 1267 02:15:17.670 --> 02:15:19.230 vicki halliday: Know i'm not going to. 1268 02:15:19.620 --> 02:15:21.720 vicki halliday: Because i've got too much stuff going on on both. 1269 02:15:21.720 --> 02:15:24.600 vicki halliday: computers and I don't feel like screen sharing. 1270 02:15:24.810 --> 02:15:26.130 vicki halliday: The other stuff i'm working well. 1271 02:15:26.340 --> 02:15:29.370 Elizabeth Wright: If I continue with the ice the screen, I can type it up. 1272 02:15:29.670 --> 02:15:33.660 vicki halliday: Well, hang on here and i'll just let me get out of something. 1273 02:15:40.620 --> 02:15:42.690 Brian Ulf: Well, when is the neighborhood Council meeting. 1274 02:15:44.490 --> 02:15:45.360 Elizabeth Wright: or Tuesday. 1275 02:15:47.730 --> 02:15:52.890 Brian Ulf: We could probably submit something to do the cameras on an on a one off. 1276 02:15:53.130 --> 02:15:54.300 vicki halliday: He could Brian yeah. 1277 02:15:54.570 --> 02:15:56.460 Brian Ulf: And let's let's do that because. 1278 02:15:57.720 --> 02:16:01.710 Brian Ulf: Jim Ross set the date that there's money in the budget to do that. 1279 02:16:08.370 --> 02:16:09.600 vicki halliday: Okay i'm just trying. 1280 02:16:10.440 --> 02:16:10.920 Meeting. 1281 02:16:13.110 --> 02:16:15.810 Elizabeth Wright: agenda when when you say put up cameras. 1282 02:16:17.670 --> 02:16:22.830 Elizabeth Wright: who's going to be looking who's going to be maintaining who's going to be guarding. 1283 02:16:23.460 --> 02:16:25.050 Brian Ulf: yeah you know. 1284 02:16:25.110 --> 02:16:27.630 Brian Ulf: yeah it's called live view. 1285 02:16:27.630 --> 02:16:31.110 Brian Ulf: technologies and it's portable camera towers. 1286 02:16:31.140 --> 02:16:36.840 Brian Ulf: That are monitored by whoever pays for them to be there i'm assuming. 1287 02:16:38.400 --> 02:16:40.800 Brian Ulf: We if it's the neighborhood Council, they would have the feed. 1288 02:16:42.210 --> 02:16:47.040 Brian Ulf: Just like all the owners have feeds going down the boardwalk or other places. 1289 02:16:47.580 --> 02:16:48.540 Elizabeth Wright: I understand. 1290 02:16:49.020 --> 02:16:50.910 Elizabeth Wright: yeah within the neighborhood Council. 1291 02:16:52.140 --> 02:16:53.280 Elizabeth Wright: there's gonna be looking. 1292 02:16:54.420 --> 02:16:55.590 Brian Ulf: Oh, I think everybody will. 1293 02:16:57.630 --> 02:17:00.540 vicki halliday: lose if you want to read it i'm set to type now. 1294 02:17:01.140 --> 02:17:01.590 Okay. 1295 02:17:02.970 --> 02:17:04.830 Elizabeth Wright: The Venice neighborhood cultural. 1296 02:17:19.830 --> 02:17:21.450 Elizabeth Wright: That within 30 days. 1297 02:17:27.060 --> 02:17:28.560 Elizabeth Wright: come up with a plan. 1298 02:17:32.130 --> 02:17:34.200 vicki halliday: It doesn't make grammatical sense. 1299 02:17:36.210 --> 02:17:36.480 Elizabeth Wright: Oh. 1300 02:17:37.110 --> 02:17:43.200 Brian Ulf: Should we put in language encampments to home because that's what they're gonna do now we're talking their language just. 1301 02:17:47.040 --> 02:17:50.400 Elizabeth Wright: i'm sorry I had so many scratch outs and arrows. 1302 02:17:52.530 --> 02:17:54.930 Elizabeth Wright: insist that the city of Los Angeles. 1303 02:17:56.070 --> 02:17:58.050 Elizabeth Wright: Within 30 days come up with plan. 1304 02:18:03.870 --> 02:18:04.980 Brian Ulf: You could just cut it baby. 1305 02:18:07.620 --> 02:18:12.300 Brian Ulf: that's a city camp implements during camp meant to home project within 60 days. 1306 02:18:13.650 --> 02:18:14.760 Brian Ulf: covers the whole thing. 1307 02:18:15.210 --> 02:18:17.580 vicki halliday: Okay guys i'm just and just keep deleting your. 1308 02:18:19.170 --> 02:18:19.920 frank murphy: Lead lists. 1309 02:18:20.400 --> 02:18:20.850 vicki halliday: I think. 1310 02:18:21.090 --> 02:18:21.780 vicki halliday: You know what. 1311 02:18:24.330 --> 02:18:25.740 vicki halliday: let's let Liz. 1312 02:18:27.030 --> 02:18:29.550 vicki halliday: Go sit and type this because she's got her notes. 1313 02:18:29.640 --> 02:18:31.380 vicki halliday: And then she can screen share. 1314 02:18:32.070 --> 02:18:42.930 vicki halliday: Because this way is everybody's going to keep interjecting and we're never going to get through it, so I think just let let's take a five minute break what Liz can do this and come back and screen share has that. 1315 02:18:43.470 --> 02:18:44.130 Brian Ulf: sounds good to me. 1316 02:18:48.660 --> 02:18:51.090 Pat Raphael: So is there any possibility to. 1317 02:18:53.640 --> 02:18:57.330 Pat Raphael: Like we're calling on the city to do this, rather than. 1318 02:18:57.390 --> 02:18:58.410 Pat Raphael: Insisting it. 1319 02:18:58.410 --> 02:19:01.230 Pat Raphael: sounds language different than. 1320 02:19:03.420 --> 02:19:04.980 Pat Raphael: The cordiality that i'm trying to. 1321 02:19:05.730 --> 02:19:10.830 frank murphy: present I think if we do that we're gonna have to go back and redo the motion. 1322 02:19:11.970 --> 02:19:13.950 Brian Ulf: city, people are pissed pat. 1323 02:19:16.530 --> 02:19:18.660 Brian Ulf: It isn't insist, this is. 1324 02:19:20.280 --> 02:19:20.490 But. 1325 02:19:21.900 --> 02:19:27.150 Brian Ulf: But it's not to hurt the homeless, is to get them into shelter and get them into services. 1326 02:19:28.320 --> 02:19:29.610 frank murphy: it's on both sides. 1327 02:19:40.740 --> 02:19:43.380 frank murphy: mean Kim should be insisting that. 1328 02:19:44.640 --> 02:19:47.340 frank murphy: You know, St Joseph Center pay attention to his. 1329 02:19:49.350 --> 02:19:54.570 frank murphy: You know, to his applications not telling him, month after month come back another time. 1330 02:19:55.500 --> 02:20:03.480 Pat Raphael: And there was something that Mr paradise mentioned that I thought ship somewhere be in there let's let's. 1331 02:20:04.530 --> 02:20:18.450 Pat Raphael: Put the focus on the service providers, how come the service providers are able to so casually just get away with not doing anything with all of this money that we're flowing through them right we're not. 1332 02:20:19.920 --> 02:20:22.650 frank murphy: Getting much broader issue pat. 1333 02:20:25.710 --> 02:20:26.490 Pat Raphael: just say you know. 1334 02:20:31.770 --> 02:20:33.420 Brian Ulf: it's it's a whole new motion. 1335 02:20:34.890 --> 02:20:36.600 Brian Ulf: To investigate and. 1336 02:20:36.690 --> 02:20:38.430 Brian Ulf: You know, you could start a petition pat. 1337 02:20:38.460 --> 02:20:39.810 Brian Ulf: Have everybody liked him. 1338 02:20:41.130 --> 02:20:44.250 Brian Ulf: Who says how many people feel the same way, he does. 1339 02:20:45.450 --> 02:20:56.340 Brian Ulf: And so that's the motion, you know you got 150 people that are unsheltered on the boardwalk that are saying this about their engagements with outreach tapes. 1340 02:20:57.420 --> 02:21:01.980 Brian Ulf: and make that come from the on house population that you can organize and write the motions. 1341 02:21:03.720 --> 02:21:12.330 Pat Raphael: It just seems like a very expensive sandwich delivery apparatus that's what we're paid for right and. 1342 02:21:12.480 --> 02:21:12.810 kind of. 1343 02:21:14.190 --> 02:21:15.390 Pat Raphael: let's try something else. 1344 02:21:15.690 --> 02:21:23.280 Brian Ulf: So if you have 1000 friends that are out there and they all feel the same way that that's going to change the game. 1345 02:21:25.140 --> 02:21:35.670 Brian Ulf: If the residents are trying to help the unsheltered and the shelters, are willing to receive services, but they can't get them there's the bottleneck that's The problem we then resolve. 1346 02:21:41.250 --> 02:21:52.650 Brian Ulf: But it can't just come from the neighbors that are mad, that is not having if it came from the House population like from all your friends and kit and Cameron everyone like that that's a huge statement pat. 1347 02:21:54.720 --> 02:22:03.600 Brian Ulf: That all these people want help the will do help, but this guy had an appointment and Miss 10 of them nothing happened over 14 years he said. 1348 02:22:05.310 --> 02:22:06.390 Brian Ulf: That has an impact. 1349 02:22:18.300 --> 02:22:29.580 Pat Raphael: I guess we're waiting for the final warning that we're going to approve and then after we approve the final already good will vote on emotion as a whole if i'm getting a good. 1350 02:22:31.740 --> 02:22:34.320 Pat Raphael: Title timeline of what's happening in the next couple of minutes. 1351 02:22:34.560 --> 02:22:37.020 Brian Ulf: yeah plus there's public comment when she does this again. 1352 02:22:39.030 --> 02:22:42.450 frank murphy: No, this is the same one we book that we're reading. 1353 02:22:43.590 --> 02:22:44.010 Brian Ulf: it's. 1354 02:22:44.250 --> 02:22:44.550 frank murphy: Not. 1355 02:22:45.030 --> 02:22:46.140 frank murphy: Public comment, Brian. 1356 02:22:47.220 --> 02:22:50.790 Brian Ulf: we've changed the motion again she's gonna post it for everybody to read. 1357 02:22:50.820 --> 02:22:59.280 frank murphy: She didn't change it, because she's just printing out what she had already said she read it, we had a. 1358 02:23:00.390 --> 02:23:03.660 frank murphy: We had to make the motion, we had a second emotion and. 1359 02:23:03.780 --> 02:23:05.670 frank murphy: Your coffee hasn't changed since then. 1360 02:25:52.980 --> 02:26:00.840 Pat Raphael: Not necessarily what the rules but uh since we're just kind of waiting informally, can we let release a red man who's got her hands up say something. 1361 02:26:03.450 --> 02:26:04.110 Elizabeth Wright: Different. 1362 02:26:06.630 --> 02:26:08.610 frank murphy: All right now let's get this issue done. 1363 02:28:40.740 --> 02:28:53.580 Brian Ulf: frank does anybody know the rule again because I, I think we are changing two or three words or changes at this and i'm getting messaging Sam public comment is. 1364 02:28:54.930 --> 02:28:56.730 Brian Ulf: We have to have public comment. 1365 02:28:58.140 --> 02:28:59.310 Brian Ulf: But i'm not i'm. 1366 02:29:04.290 --> 02:29:06.120 frank murphy: I guess if we change the word or two. 1367 02:29:07.530 --> 02:29:13.140 Brian Ulf: I think you did, and I think there's been a request to put this up since we're posting it up for people to read. 1368 02:29:14.850 --> 02:29:21.540 Brian Ulf: That we that we, I mean we only have five or six people on this entire call right now outside of the board so you'll probably get. 1369 02:29:22.230 --> 02:29:22.680 One or two. 1370 02:29:24.210 --> 02:29:24.960 frank murphy: We had a. 1371 02:29:27.000 --> 02:29:36.180 frank murphy: We had we read the text we made the motion seconded we'll put it up and we'll do the public comment and then go up and then go back to community. 1372 02:29:37.860 --> 02:29:41.880 Elizabeth Wright: Okay, I have it on word and I don't know what to do now. 1373 02:29:43.980 --> 02:29:50.580 vicki halliday: go down to the bottom Liz and you should see a screen share options sorted in the Center at the bottom. 1374 02:29:51.030 --> 02:29:52.560 Elizabeth Wright: Where is the screen share up. 1375 02:29:53.700 --> 02:29:56.670 Elizabeth Wright: What it says when I have the screen share option. 1376 02:29:57.060 --> 02:29:59.220 C Bailey: you'll see a green little. 1377 02:29:59.520 --> 02:30:00.840 Elizabeth Wright: You talking about zoom. 1378 02:30:02.490 --> 02:30:03.060 And it will be. 1379 02:30:06.060 --> 02:30:06.870 frank murphy: Okay sorry. 1380 02:30:08.310 --> 02:30:23.760 vicki halliday: Let me give a comment or I can give her instructions if the very bottom of your zoom screen there's a green button that says share screen when you click that it's going to pull up whatever you're working on on your desktop. 1381 02:30:25.530 --> 02:30:25.890 Elizabeth Wright: Okay. 1382 02:30:31.350 --> 02:30:31.680 Elizabeth Wright: Good. 1383 02:30:46.740 --> 02:30:49.890 Elizabeth Wright: The host disabled participants screen sharing. 1384 02:30:50.910 --> 02:30:55.200 vicki halliday: Well, let me promote you then to co host. 1385 02:30:56.430 --> 02:30:57.240 vicki halliday: hold on here. 1386 02:31:09.660 --> 02:31:13.350 vicki halliday: i'm making you co host and you should be able to do this now okay. 1387 02:31:43.740 --> 02:31:44.370 frank murphy: There it is. 1388 02:31:44.940 --> 02:31:46.170 vicki halliday: There it is Liz great. 1389 02:31:46.740 --> 02:31:47.280 perfect. 1390 02:32:32.400 --> 02:32:37.500 vicki halliday: So are we commenting first is their public comment first or how are we doing this let's move along. 1391 02:32:38.130 --> 02:32:39.000 frank murphy: Public comment. 1392 02:32:41.790 --> 02:32:42.240 vicki halliday: Okay. 1393 02:32:43.680 --> 02:32:44.250 vicki halliday: I. 1394 02:32:45.780 --> 02:32:47.400 vicki halliday: give up okay. 1395 02:32:50.970 --> 02:32:52.410 frank murphy: Okay, we started with sal. 1396 02:32:54.120 --> 02:32:55.620 vicki halliday: sal go ahead, please. 1397 02:33:00.540 --> 02:33:22.530 Sal Paradise: Oh yes, hi um first first issue is, I think that a knicks original motion needs to be included in the package that you send to the board, because that is what has generated this entire discussion, and I think the board needs to realize what the tenor of the Community is. 1398 02:33:24.690 --> 02:33:27.000 Sal Paradise: Also, within the motion language itself. 1399 02:33:28.410 --> 02:33:30.780 Sal Paradise: You say housing and services, but. 1400 02:33:31.890 --> 02:33:42.690 Sal Paradise: housing and or shelter should be in that language and that's that's really important to anticipate and again our reiterate that. 1401 02:33:43.710 --> 02:33:48.120 Sal Paradise: There needs to be more general criticism of the lack of. 1402 02:33:51.240 --> 02:34:01.080 Sal Paradise: success of the service providers, and there needs to be more oversight of that and the service providers, need to be held accountable because again they are failing. 1403 02:34:01.620 --> 02:34:13.290 Sal Paradise: Our own house Community there are failing our training, overall, they are failing our public spaces they're failing our library and they're not being held accountable. 1404 02:34:14.550 --> 02:34:25.050 Sal Paradise: Thomas saffron and associates has no bid contract for the housing monstrosity that's going to happen on Venice boulevard no big contracts. 1405 02:34:26.790 --> 02:34:28.890 Sal Paradise: That doesn't seem equitable for anyone. 1406 02:34:30.600 --> 02:34:35.160 vicki halliday: Thank you, thank you so um next up is Shay. 1407 02:34:36.240 --> 02:34:39.420 vicki halliday: going to unmute yourself but. 1408 02:34:40.290 --> 02:34:41.040 Shay: Can you hear me. 1409 02:34:41.310 --> 02:34:42.510 vicki halliday: Yes, thank you. 1410 02:34:43.050 --> 02:34:58.530 Shay: And to find the unmute button and you know, thank you guys, for all your service, and I know it's hard when your volunteers, I agree entirely with everything that sale, has stated. 1411 02:34:59.790 --> 02:35:14.970 Shay: On both of human human level and a you know, being a city planner myself and working in the development world and everything and living in how that which is our communities become. 1412 02:35:16.470 --> 02:35:30.960 Shay: The program so it needs to call for programs who actually do something for the homeless, because they don't they say they provide, but they do not, and I think pat would agree with me. 1413 02:35:31.590 --> 02:35:41.640 Shay: These are the reasons they don't want to accept the shelter they don't want to go into it, they know the services will not be provided, and we need to stop that. 1414 02:35:42.840 --> 02:35:44.790 Shay: We need to stop the drain on money. 1415 02:35:46.110 --> 02:35:49.350 Shay: That is coming out of all this funding everything. 1416 02:35:50.490 --> 02:36:02.040 Shay: And you know if there's a way to write that in otherwise I like the i'm supposing perhaps Nick doesn't think it's such a friendly amendment, but I think really. 1417 02:36:03.090 --> 02:36:04.980 Shay: It is and also salad. 1418 02:36:05.940 --> 02:36:06.810 vicki halliday: Think okay. 1419 02:36:07.680 --> 02:36:10.170 vicki halliday: So um. 1420 02:36:10.440 --> 02:36:13.320 vicki halliday: Next up is shauna Brian please unmute Sean. 1421 02:36:15.000 --> 02:36:20.190 Sean obrien: All right, good job you get the gist of it, you know it is what it is tough tough night. 1422 02:36:20.760 --> 02:36:34.680 Sean obrien: My only thing is, is a within 30 days come up with the plan and within 60 days comma time is of the essence, to implement the plan to offer housing, so I would just put in a comment and put in time is of the essence. 1423 02:36:35.100 --> 02:36:43.920 Sean obrien: it's a universal phrase for business have to say hey don't dilly dally get on it all right, but good job thanks guys. 1424 02:36:45.060 --> 02:36:46.860 vicki halliday: Thanks Sean um. 1425 02:36:46.890 --> 02:36:48.360 vicki halliday: Next up is Lisa redmond. 1426 02:36:49.200 --> 02:36:49.920 Lisa. 1427 02:36:58.290 --> 02:36:59.370 vicki halliday: Lisa you're up. 1428 02:37:10.080 --> 02:37:21.540 Lisa Redmond: There you go I needed that unmute button Thank you Thank you everyone for putting the time in to do this, I know it's very long and ongoing but I appreciate. 1429 02:37:22.560 --> 02:37:32.430 Lisa Redmond: Your service at this point for this, I really do not care for the preamble, because I think it involves a lot of so called facts which we really don't know our facts or not. 1430 02:37:32.760 --> 02:37:41.790 Lisa Redmond: But that doesn't matter the, just as the motion and as Brian stated earlier, the bottom line and the ultimate essence is getting people into housing and that was lacking. 1431 02:37:42.090 --> 02:37:56.730 Lisa Redmond: From the original motion, so now we are demanding that people are given housing and a solution is given to moving people instead of just sweeping people away and expecting them to find someplace to land that's out of sight, so thank you for the work. 1432 02:37:58.680 --> 02:37:59.430 vicki halliday: Thank you Lisa. 1433 02:38:00.810 --> 02:38:01.470 vicki halliday: Okay, that. 1434 02:38:02.520 --> 02:38:05.640 vicki halliday: Was Liz clay has something to say go was. 1435 02:38:08.040 --> 02:38:11.970 Elizabeth c: hey there guys, I just wanted to maybe tighten up your timeframe. 1436 02:38:13.650 --> 02:38:24.600 Elizabeth c: And for those who aren't aware there were two gunshots or bullets actually that landed in the ladies home on grand street this week so. 1437 02:38:25.980 --> 02:38:35.550 Elizabeth c: The violence is is continuing the fear is real it's palpable the residents are upset next motion is valid. 1438 02:38:37.320 --> 02:38:45.240 Elizabeth c: By a lot of people don't because you're not made aware they're not very public about what takes place but there's a lot of work being done behind the scenes. 1439 02:38:46.590 --> 02:38:52.530 Elizabeth c: To do cleanup and to to find housing for these people and to find shelter. 1440 02:38:53.970 --> 02:39:14.400 Elizabeth c: And the problem goes both directions people not wanting to accept services and also supposedly are allegedly beds, not being available for those people when they're willing and able to accept so requesting 30 days for a plan when there's already a plan in place redundant. 1441 02:39:15.270 --> 02:39:15.870 frank murphy: are actually. 1442 02:39:22.050 --> 02:39:22.950 frank murphy: Is that it for. 1443 02:39:25.020 --> 02:39:25.770 frank murphy: Public vicki. 1444 02:39:28.140 --> 02:39:29.640 vicki halliday: Yes, yes it is. 1445 02:39:30.570 --> 02:39:31.110 Okay. 1446 02:39:32.160 --> 02:39:36.240 frank murphy: Some back committee any further discussion on this. 1447 02:39:39.060 --> 02:39:51.990 Brian Ulf: I was just it are we asking is it a 90 day window 30 days to do a plan 60 days to implement or is it 60 days to do the plan and implement, because if it isn't if it's 90 I want to make it 60 implement. 1448 02:39:53.100 --> 02:39:54.090 Brian Ulf: plan and implement. 1449 02:39:56.010 --> 02:40:00.510 vicki halliday: Why don't we do within 30 days come up with a plan within 30 days implement the plan. 1450 02:40:00.810 --> 02:40:02.280 Brian Ulf: yeah it's a 60 day Program. 1451 02:40:02.490 --> 02:40:03.690 vicki halliday: yeah yeah. 1452 02:40:04.170 --> 02:40:05.130 Brian Ulf: Not a 90 day. 1453 02:40:05.490 --> 02:40:07.620 frank murphy: Right, so the way I was reading it yeah. 1454 02:40:07.680 --> 02:40:09.210 Brian Ulf: I just, I just wanted to clarify. 1455 02:40:14.340 --> 02:40:16.170 Elizabeth Wright: You want 30 days of receipt. 1456 02:40:20.160 --> 02:40:21.030 Brian Ulf: 30 days. 1457 02:40:22.800 --> 02:40:31.980 Brian Ulf: And 30 days take 60 out and put 30. 1458 02:40:36.480 --> 02:40:36.990 perfect. 1459 02:40:43.080 --> 02:40:43.680 frank murphy: All right. 1460 02:40:46.170 --> 02:40:47.310 frank murphy: anybody else on that. 1461 02:40:51.060 --> 02:40:51.510 Elizabeth Wright: i'm good. 1462 02:40:54.120 --> 02:40:55.050 frank murphy: anybody else. 1463 02:40:57.300 --> 02:40:57.570 Pat Raphael: Though. 1464 02:40:57.930 --> 02:40:58.680 connect to the. 1465 02:41:00.060 --> 02:41:04.140 Pat Raphael: library property regulations to the. 1466 02:41:05.670 --> 02:41:09.390 Pat Raphael: To the normal the best practice operation of the library. 1467 02:41:11.370 --> 02:41:19.380 Pat Raphael: i'm thinking, this is it seems like it's too connected to the encampment that we should be saying something to the effect like. 1468 02:41:20.340 --> 02:41:31.950 Pat Raphael: The library property regulations should always be enforced right so let's so in order for members of the community who might in the from the first raz. 1469 02:41:32.400 --> 02:41:48.660 Pat Raphael: feel like they can't use it, I think it would go a long way if we if we stress that more than an afterthought like it is right there if that's what the motion is all about, because what I want to have in our mind is that if we. 1470 02:41:49.860 --> 02:42:04.950 Pat Raphael: put ourselves in the mode of dealing with bad actors right, it will it will of course take more energy, but it will address the problem more directly than trying to. 1471 02:42:07.140 --> 02:42:08.880 Pat Raphael: create a situation where. 1472 02:42:10.110 --> 02:42:16.530 Pat Raphael: Somehow these people get dismantled and swept away. 1473 02:42:18.390 --> 02:42:25.830 Pat Raphael: Because that's that seems to be the the ideas that everything is addressing towards so can we say anything about. 1474 02:42:26.970 --> 02:42:32.160 Pat Raphael: The property rules and like stressing that a little more so that. 1475 02:42:33.300 --> 02:42:40.530 Pat Raphael: If people aren't going to be there because if we're talking about this is going to be 60 days before anything happens right how much more can discontinue. 1476 02:42:43.200 --> 02:42:56.670 Pat Raphael: Well 60 days by the time they're now out there with a plan that they're implementing so so we're talking about maybe two meetings before we get any action on this right so. 1477 02:42:57.300 --> 02:43:09.510 Pat Raphael: Something that can be built right now is that the rules that are already there can be can be highlighted in insisted on, and I think that would. 1478 02:43:10.770 --> 02:43:25.500 Pat Raphael: It just the rules, sometimes make a bunch of people say I don't want to be around here, no more right so some of it is because it's kind of a bit of a free for all right now so so that that that little afterthought seems to be something that I would like to see address. 1479 02:43:28.410 --> 02:43:44.640 frank murphy: I know soon as that big an issue I think also enforce the library property regulations that's the way they refer to them and that's what they should be doing right now, so that should be going that should be ongoing. 1480 02:43:45.960 --> 02:43:49.590 frank murphy: So I don't I don't see that is an issue. 1481 02:43:53.340 --> 02:43:54.390 frank murphy: On this reading. 1482 02:43:55.860 --> 02:44:07.170 Pat Raphael: Another word stress it front and Center a little bit more since that's the source of a big part of what's going on in the first paragraph, what we're basing the need for the motion for all right. 1483 02:44:08.280 --> 02:44:18.510 Pat Raphael: let's make that the first place, we go act on, and then the second piece we go act on is let's offer housing in services, which I think. 1484 02:44:20.340 --> 02:44:24.450 Pat Raphael: Has accountability built into it with something saying to the providers. 1485 02:44:24.930 --> 02:44:26.040 frank murphy: yeah I don't I don't want. 1486 02:44:27.180 --> 02:44:28.410 Pat Raphael: To say that we're doing this. 1487 02:44:28.800 --> 02:44:42.990 frank murphy: I don't yeah I don't I don't think I don't think that's to me that's not the most primary thing, so I think we should go to the hold on the way it is right now and. 1488 02:44:44.190 --> 02:44:47.820 frank murphy: And and leave the wording, the way it is. 1489 02:44:50.430 --> 02:44:57.450 frank murphy: I think that the first sentence, there is what income encompasses what is the issue. 1490 02:44:58.500 --> 02:45:10.590 frank murphy: and enforcing the library property regulations is also an issue and to state it last isn't isn't that deficit in my mind or isn't a yeah. 1491 02:45:15.780 --> 02:45:17.160 frank murphy: I don't see it as a big issue. 1492 02:45:20.400 --> 02:45:23.910 frank murphy: Does anybody else have any more comments. 1493 02:45:26.460 --> 02:45:28.140 Pat Raphael: I lose with a heads up. 1494 02:45:34.260 --> 02:45:35.490 Elizabeth Wright: I did not hear correctly. 1495 02:45:36.750 --> 02:45:37.260 frank murphy: Okay. 1496 02:45:39.450 --> 02:45:40.950 frank murphy: All right, do you have any more comment. 1497 02:45:42.210 --> 02:45:42.780 Elizabeth Wright: I did not. 1498 02:45:43.800 --> 02:45:47.430 frank murphy: Okay now loses is in the public public comments over. 1499 02:45:48.660 --> 02:45:50.580 frank murphy: um all right let's. 1500 02:45:52.050 --> 02:45:54.960 frank murphy: that's the other that's the other Elizabeth sorry bad. 1501 02:45:57.390 --> 02:46:00.840 frank murphy: All right, let's take it to a vote i'm Brian. 1502 02:46:02.940 --> 02:46:03.420 Brian Ulf: Yes. 1503 02:46:05.790 --> 02:46:06.330 frank murphy: Colette. 1504 02:46:08.670 --> 02:46:10.080 C Bailey: wish was harsher but yes. 1505 02:46:12.060 --> 02:46:12.480 frank murphy: That. 1506 02:46:19.680 --> 02:46:20.580 Pat Raphael: I voted no. 1507 02:46:22.800 --> 02:46:23.250 frank murphy: This. 1508 02:46:24.150 --> 02:46:24.570 Is. 1509 02:46:26.820 --> 02:46:27.330 frank murphy: vicki. 1510 02:46:27.660 --> 02:46:28.110 Yes. 1511 02:46:31.980 --> 02:46:31.980 frank murphy: Stan. 1512 02:46:33.420 --> 02:46:34.050 Ansar Muhammad: Yes. 1513 02:46:37.320 --> 02:46:38.310 frank murphy: frank, yes. 1514 02:46:42.090 --> 02:46:45.060 frank murphy: All right, that's six yes one know. 1515 02:46:49.530 --> 02:46:51.570 frank murphy: The motion passes, as amended. 1516 02:46:54.540 --> 02:46:55.440 frank murphy: um. 1517 02:46:57.450 --> 02:47:01.560 frank murphy: Alright committee comments on items, not on the agenda. 1518 02:47:08.970 --> 02:47:11.550 frank murphy: We can take this off the screen now. 1519 02:47:12.750 --> 02:47:15.810 frank murphy: Does anybody in the Community have. 1520 02:47:17.010 --> 02:47:17.790 frank murphy: comments. 1521 02:47:22.830 --> 02:47:24.090 frank murphy: Yes, further comments. 1522 02:47:24.360 --> 02:47:24.750 Yes. 1523 02:47:26.130 --> 02:47:28.380 Elizabeth Wright: Brian if you can. 1524 02:47:29.430 --> 02:47:31.980 Elizabeth Wright: work out something regarding. 1525 02:47:34.980 --> 02:47:36.330 Elizabeth Wright: The cameras. 1526 02:47:36.690 --> 02:47:39.480 Elizabeth Wright: yep who is going to monitor them and how. 1527 02:47:41.610 --> 02:47:43.440 Elizabeth Wright: Are they purchased or rented. 1528 02:47:45.630 --> 02:47:52.620 Brian Ulf: The company rents them and the motion would be for the Venice neighborhood Council to authorize in fund. 1529 02:47:54.330 --> 02:47:59.310 Brian Ulf: That those Poles and I talked to Jim as and he said that that's doable. 1530 02:48:00.840 --> 02:48:01.140 Elizabeth Wright: Okay. 1531 02:48:02.580 --> 02:48:04.500 Elizabeth Wright: i'm talking about for the next meeting. 1532 02:48:05.520 --> 02:48:12.570 Brian Ulf: yeah i'm talking about that will be done for the neighborhood Council meeting by next Tuesday i'm not doing it through this committee i'll do it separately. 1533 02:48:13.890 --> 02:48:16.800 Elizabeth Wright: it'll be bounced to the committee. 1534 02:48:17.940 --> 02:48:18.570 Brian Ulf: It won't be. 1535 02:48:19.890 --> 02:48:20.250 frank murphy: All right. 1536 02:48:21.570 --> 02:48:25.500 Brian Ulf: They know they already said that they do it, so it doesn't work. 1537 02:48:25.560 --> 02:48:26.820 Brian Ulf: It doesn't necessarily have to. 1538 02:48:27.660 --> 02:48:28.440 Brian Ulf: Jim Morris. 1539 02:48:29.880 --> 02:48:30.750 Elizabeth Wright: he's not like. 1540 02:48:33.000 --> 02:48:34.170 Brian Ulf: I don't understand. 1541 02:48:34.920 --> 02:48:35.640 Brian Ulf: i'm not trying to be. 1542 02:48:36.000 --> 02:48:37.140 Brian Ulf: i'm not trying to have a conflict. 1543 02:48:37.230 --> 02:48:41.220 Brian Ulf: As I know just know what what am I doing wrong, what do you want. 1544 02:48:42.630 --> 02:48:42.930 know. 1545 02:48:45.960 --> 02:49:00.870 Elizabeth Wright: The it's not just the mechanism for taking pictures it's who's going to have access to the video and who's going to be responsible for the video and what action are they going to take in response to the video. 1546 02:49:01.710 --> 02:49:04.740 Brian Ulf: yeah that'll be up to to whoever pays for it. 1547 02:49:08.040 --> 02:49:11.280 Elizabeth Wright: You just had the neighborhood Council is going to be paying for it. 1548 02:49:11.640 --> 02:49:14.820 Brian Ulf: yeah but neighborhood Council will probably make those rules that you're asking about. 1549 02:49:16.080 --> 02:49:22.950 Elizabeth Wright: But they will want suggestions from the homeless committee because it is being crowded as a homeless issue. 1550 02:49:24.840 --> 02:49:25.080 Elizabeth Wright: and 1551 02:49:26.070 --> 02:49:27.810 Elizabeth Wright: If you have suggestions fine. 1552 02:49:29.430 --> 02:49:31.260 Elizabeth Wright: i'm not i'm not saying do it. 1553 02:49:33.150 --> 02:49:33.720 Brian Ulf: hey if. 1554 02:49:34.320 --> 02:49:45.870 Brian Ulf: i'd love to get it to them to have something implement quicker than this 30 6090 days, this could be done in five days and whenever the neighborhood Council wants to do it if they don't want to do it that's fine. 1555 02:49:47.400 --> 02:49:54.420 Brian Ulf: You know that's that's that's all it is I don't want this coming back let vicki figure it out with the neighborhood Council and represent our interest there. 1556 02:49:54.750 --> 02:49:59.280 vicki halliday: But Brian I think one of the issues is going to be wearing Advisory Board. 1557 02:49:59.670 --> 02:50:18.000 vicki halliday: We advise that these cameras are put up, we can advise how they should be used, but another entity would be in charge of supervision paying and everything else, so we need to figure out the right city agency to send the motion to to suggest it. 1558 02:50:18.840 --> 02:50:29.940 Brian Ulf: Jim reference to me that the Venice neighborhood Council has money in their budget to fund a tower camera in that park. 1559 02:50:32.130 --> 02:50:32.640 vicki halliday: wow. 1560 02:50:34.770 --> 02:50:37.020 Brian Ulf: And if i'm wrong, I apologize. 1561 02:50:37.170 --> 02:50:39.660 Brian Ulf: No, that is my That is my recollection. 1562 02:50:40.110 --> 02:50:49.170 Brian Ulf: we're not asking the city if we asked the city to do it you'd never see what comes out of that camera if the neighborhood Council has it just like any. 1563 02:50:49.800 --> 02:50:55.890 Brian Ulf: person that puts a camera up on the boardwalk or you have a ring on your House, the video is there. 1564 02:50:56.490 --> 02:51:05.160 Brian Ulf: And you know when the video is going to be used vicki is when something happens monique is going to get a copy of whatever the video is it'll become evidence. 1565 02:51:05.520 --> 02:51:13.800 Brian Ulf: And, and the but the best part about the cameras is is supposed to become a deterrent that cameras supposed to stop people from committing crime. 1566 02:51:14.640 --> 02:51:23.340 Brian Ulf: Not no one wants to get caught on that camera, but if they do now, we have it, and again that just gives more stuff. 1567 02:51:23.940 --> 02:51:33.810 Brian Ulf: To show to the world that yeah we don't want to criminalize the homeless, just the person that just shot that guy in that tent or just the person that did this and that's the whole intent. 1568 02:51:34.860 --> 02:51:35.190 vicki halliday: I think. 1569 02:51:35.220 --> 02:51:35.820 frank murphy: What I think. 1570 02:51:36.390 --> 02:51:41.850 frank murphy: What I think Liz and vicki are referring to is whether or not Jim can make that decision. 1571 02:51:42.450 --> 02:51:44.790 Brian Ulf: Well that's not my call he's the President that's just what am I. 1572 02:51:44.940 --> 02:51:45.840 frank murphy: Correct so. 1573 02:51:46.140 --> 02:51:47.280 Brian Ulf: If he can't do it can't do it. 1574 02:51:47.730 --> 02:51:49.050 frank murphy: that's correct so. 1575 02:51:49.110 --> 02:51:50.670 Brian Ulf: The name, but the neighbors want stuff. 1576 02:51:51.030 --> 02:51:51.300 That. 1577 02:51:52.470 --> 02:51:54.120 frank murphy: i'm not i'm not arguing with you. 1578 02:51:55.080 --> 02:51:55.950 frank murphy: that's true. 1579 02:51:56.160 --> 02:52:03.240 frank murphy: So if you put it up there and Jim can get a true okay fine if you can't then it'll come back to us and we'll have to do it, but. 1580 02:52:03.960 --> 02:52:16.440 frank murphy: That that's you know I don't think that we're going to correct me if i'm wrong vicki but I don't see any more of a time delay if the Ad COM says send it to send him. 1581 02:52:17.550 --> 02:52:29.160 vicki halliday: I think what I would do Brian since you have spoken with Jim about this, I would I would rough out some sort of motion and talk with him about it before you even submit it to add calm. 1582 02:52:30.240 --> 02:52:35.580 vicki halliday: Because, if this is something he's interested in he knows how to write good motions and he can help you with. 1583 02:52:36.600 --> 02:52:37.560 vicki halliday: It because he seems. 1584 02:52:40.950 --> 02:52:44.190 Pat Raphael: It seems very easy to get money for enforcement money for. 1585 02:52:45.450 --> 02:52:56.850 Pat Raphael: More policing right i'm not sure where the neighborhood Council can make these pronouncements and just fake money is there, can we use this money for anything else. 1586 02:52:57.720 --> 02:53:01.350 vicki halliday: it's know pat me. 1587 02:53:03.600 --> 02:53:04.980 Ansar Muhammad: porta potties port. 1588 02:53:09.690 --> 02:53:10.410 frank murphy: Exactly. 1589 02:53:11.310 --> 02:53:20.100 frank murphy: And what does what just one other thing real quick, I wanted to bring up sales point about. 1590 02:53:21.690 --> 02:53:26.670 frank murphy: holding the service providers accountable, we need to work on something on that. 1591 02:53:26.760 --> 02:53:28.080 frank murphy: that's all I wanted to. 1592 02:53:28.080 --> 02:53:28.830 frank murphy: comment to. 1593 02:53:30.090 --> 02:53:30.540 frank murphy: and 1594 02:53:30.990 --> 02:53:31.710 vicki halliday: Good point. 1595 02:53:32.370 --> 02:53:42.240 frank murphy: All right, so anybody else have anything else, otherwise Thank you all so much really appreciate it and. 1596 02:53:44.310 --> 02:53:45.240 frank murphy: Meetings adjourned. 1597 02:53:46.020 --> 02:53:46.380 Pat Raphael: Thank you. 1598 02:53:48.000 --> 02:53:48.510 vicki halliday: Daddy. 1599 02:53:48.600 --> 02:53:49.350 vicki halliday: Thanks Liz. 1600 02:53:49.470 --> 02:53:50.220 C Bailey: Thanks. 1601 02:53:50.610 --> 02:53:52.410 Ansar Muhammad: vicki and let's have a good night. 1602 02:53:52.740 --> 02:53:54.810 C Bailey: And not everybody thanks guys.